The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

[Karen (Geophyz)]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51628484

Iran's deputy health minister and an MP have both tested positive for the new coronavirus disease, as it struggles to contain an outbreak that has killed 15.

The senior health official, Iraj Harirchi, said in a video that he was self-isolating and starting medication.

He was seen mopping his brow repeatedly at a news conference on Monday, when he denied the authorities were lying about the scale of the Covid-19 outbreak.

They have reported 95 cases, but the actual number is thought to be higher.

[Bill Ryan]

Today's update from Dr John Campbell. He's marvelously polite and understated, in that very English way. :) But he went so far to say specifically that the WHO's statements have now lost all credibility. Kudos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL7oGRKETZM

[Bill Ryan]

I'm adding an amendment to my sequential speculations in post #785 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336668&viewfull=1#post1336668) of 7 days ago.

#s 1-4 are pretty much confirmed already. #5 wondered if the the Chinese regime might fall, and #6 stated that the effect on the global supply chain would be significant. (I think we know that already, too.) I'd VERY VERY much hope that #7 only exists in the realm of futuristic movies.

There are unanswered questions right now about how come the mortality rate seems to be spiking (i.e. compared to the number of confirmed cases) in Italy and Iran. So here's a VERY speculative addition. I'm no microbiologist, but I'd say the chances of this have to be non-zero. Meaning, this could possibly happen.
4a) Evidence may grow that the virus could possibly be mutating. If this is the case, and starts to be discussed in the mainstream, there'll be fairly major panic.

[Bill Ryan]

I'm adding an amendment to my sequential speculations in post #785 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336668&viewfull=1#post1336668) of 7 days ago.

#s 1-4 are pretty much confirmed already. #5 wondered if the the Chinese regime might fall, and #6 stated that the effect on the global supply chain would be significant. (I think we know that already, too.) I'd VERY VERY much hope that #7 only exists in the realm of futuristic movies.

There are unanswered questions right now about how come the mortality rate seems to be spiking (i.e. compared to the number of confirmed cases) in Italy and Iran. So here's a VERY speculative addition. I'm no microbiologist, but I'd say the chances of this have to be non-zero. Meaning, this could possibly happen.
4a) Evidence may grow that the virus could possibly be mutating. If this is the case, and starts to be discussed in the mainstream, there'll be fairly major panic.


Ha. I fear I may be correct already. I'd not actually seen this when I posted the above. From Natural News today:


https://naturalnews.com/2020-02-25-iranian-strain-coronavirus-morphed-version-wuhan.html



Iranian strain of coronavirus a “morphed” version of the one in Wuhan
25 Feb, 2020

During a recent segment on the Wuhan coronavirus (CoVid-19), a CNBC commentator explained that the strain currently circulating in Iran is different than the one that originated in Wuhan.

A clip (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1230970188117479425) of the segment that was shared to Twitter by Disclose.tv shows the commentator explaining how the situation has changed now that the novel disease appears to be mutating.

Here's the clip: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1230970188117479425

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[Bill Ryan]

Light relief. (Maybe!) A surreal photo of ballet dancers training in Shanghai — with masks on.

https://apicms.thestar.com.my/uploads/images/2020/02/21/570765.JPG

[Bill Ryan]

And I don't think we've had any cartoons yet. This one, from the South China Morning Post, isn't all that funny.... but may contain a lot of truth. The fragments of the broken shield say "Communication", Facilities & Equipment", and "Responses".

https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/1200x800/public/d8/images/methode/2020/02/25/12296dfa-56e2-11ea-b438-8452af50d521_image_hires_104415.jpg

[Satori]

I'm adding an amendment to my sequential speculations in post #785 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336668&viewfull=1#post1336668) of 7 days ago.

#s 1-4 are pretty much confirmed already. #5 wondered if the the Chinese regime might fall, and #6 stated that the effect on the global supply chain would be significant. (I think we know that already, too.) I'd VERY VERY much hope that #7 only exists in the realm of futuristic movies.

There are unanswered questions right now about how come the mortality rate seems to be spiking (i.e. compared to the number of confirmed cases) in Italy and Iran. So here's a VERY speculative addition. I'm no microbiologist, but I'd say the chances of this have to be non-zero. Meaning, this could possibly happen.
4a) Evidence may grow that the virus could possibly be mutating. If this is the case, and starts to be discussed in the mainstream, there'll be fairly major panic.


Ha. I fear I may be correct already. I'd not actually seen this when I posted the above. From Natural News today:


https://naturalnews.com/2020-02-25-iranian-strain-coronavirus-morphed-version-wuhan.html



Iranian strain of coronavirus a “morphed” version of the one in Wuhan
25 Feb, 2020

During a recent segment on the Wuhan coronavirus (CoVid-19), a CNBC commentator explained that the strain currently circulating in Iran is different than the one that originated in Wuhan.

A clip (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1230970188117479425) of the segment that was shared to Twitter by Disclose.tv shows the commentator explaining how the situation has changed now that the novel disease appears to be mutating.

Here's the clip: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1230970188117479425

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Here is an article posted on Rense that suggests the virus morphs, can recur in a person who "had" it, and all such persons remain "shedders" thereafter even if they have no symptoms. I am not qualified to speak to the merits, or not, of the article and its conclusion, but....

https://rense.com/general96/reality-beyond-horror.php

[Pam]

Greg Hunter interviews Chris Martenson about CoVid-19 and the economic implications.


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[Bill Ryan]

Here is an article posted on Rense that suggests the virus morphs, can recur in a person who "had" it, and all such persons remain "shedders" thereafter even if they have no symptoms. I am not qualified to speak to the merits, or not, of the article and its conclusion, but....

https://rense.com/general96/reality-beyond-horror.phpThat seems very interesting. Too early yet to know, I'd strongly suggest, but the piece presents an idea I'd not heard before.

Maybe the false negatives reported from testing, that have made diagnosis and control really challenging, haven't been because the test kits were flawed. Maybe the virus has been gradually changing, and sometimes what was being looked for just wasn't there any more — though the patient was definitely infected.

[Franny]

This is the news conference with US health officials where it could be said they are being disingenuous and downplaying the situation.

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[OldArcher]

Guess it beats whistlin' past a graveyard...

[Pam]

Here is an article posted on Rense that suggests the virus morphs, can recur in a person who "had" it, and all such persons remain "shedders" thereafter even if they have no symptoms. I am not qualified to speak to the merits, or not, of the article and its conclusion, but....

https://rense.com/general96/reality-beyond-horror.phpThat seems very interesting. Too early yet to know, I'd strongly suggest, but the piece presents an idea I'd not heard before.

Maybe the false negatives reported from testing, that have made diagnosis and control really challenging, haven't been because the test kits were flawed. Maybe the virus has been gradually changing, and sometimes what was being looked for just wasn't there any more — though the patient was definitely infected.

I found a chapter from a textbook for a Microbiology and Immunology course that is is applicable. There is more info about corona viruses in general available but I found the info on mutation and recombination interesting.


http://www.microbiologybook.org/virol/coronaviruses.htm

Mutation and recombination


[QUOTE]Coronaviruses have large RNA genomes replicated by a virus-encoded replicase/polymerase. RNA polymerases have no proof-reading capability and typically have an error rate of about 1 in 10,000 nucleotides. Since the genome of an average coronavirus is about 30kB, this means that there will be several mutations in each progeny virus. There are also many deletion mutations formed in coronaviruses. There is a very high frequency of recombination in coronaviruses which is not typical of non-segmented RNA viruses. This may be due to the discontinuous mode of RNA replication in which the leader sequence is made and then the leader/polymerase may jump to another strand. This high rate of recombination results in rapid evolution of the virus and the formation of new strains.[/QUOTE

I think it might be very probable that those test kits are not flawed and that this thing has mutated to make them useless.

If in fact, someone did make this virus to be a bioweapon wouldn't they want to give it every opportunity to do as much damage as possible? Careers of brilliant people are spent splicing and dicing to get the most lethal combo and then throw a high rate of mutation and it is unstoppable..of course I am only speculating here.

[ExomatrixTV]

‘Just a question of when’: CDC warns Americans coronavirus may cause ‘SEVERE’ Disruption of Everyday Life (https://www.rt.com/usa/481675-cdc-coronavirus-america-disruptions/)

[Franny]

Today From India Trump says it's very much under control in the US.

Very much under control in the US (https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/coronavirus-is-very-much-under-control-in-usa-says-donald-trump)

New Delhi: US President Donald Trump on Tuesday said that the coronavirus is "very much under control" in the United States.

"The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries," Trump, who is on a state visit to India, posted on Twitter.

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From a follower on twitter: Thank you for keeping us safe!
If we had Hillary right now we would all be sick!


Trump praised the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) for their massive and "smart" efforts in preventing the novel coronavirus outbreak, which originated in the Chinese city of Wuhan, from becoming a global menace.

"CDC and World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" Trump said.

This tweet comes at the backdrop of Monday's 1,000 points point fall of US stocks as novel coronavirus cases were documented by health officials. Stocks closed with the Dow Jones Industrial Average index down by 1,031.61, the S&P 500 index down by 111.86 and the Nasdaq Composite index down by 355.31 points. Meanwhile, The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Monday there were 53 confirmed cases of the virus in the US.

[Chester]

The World Health Organization is a useless (most likely significantly corrupt) organization whose funding is 50% provided by the US. I assume this funding is on the chopping block.

[frankstien]

Guest - John Rappoport interviewed about the CoronaVirus
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https://i.ibb.co/wcQPNtF/chicken-little-past-and-present-ink-on-paper-12x9-2020-w.jpg

[Delight]

James Lyons-Weiler says now that he does not think the virus is of lab origin. He also models how many people must socially isolate to stop the spread of the epidemic. It seems like 75% need to be socially isolating.

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[Delight]

Guest - John Rappoport interviewed about the CoronaVirus


That was from the 12th I think.... ancient history. I accept that there can be an epidemic of a virus MADE WORSE by pre-existing and environmental factors. It can still be a epidemic that is dangerous and therefore JR has become somewhat irrelevant IMO. Now the FOLLOWING does not seem irrelevant and JL-W has been staunchly in my own "crowd" with environmental and vaccine related issues.


James Lyons-Weiler says now that he does not think the virus is of lab origin. He also models how many people must socially isolate to stop the spread of the epidemic. It seems like 75% need to be socially isolating.

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I would like to be LIE ve that this is not an epidemic and be really angry about the PTB LYING. I'd like to blame someone and all but I think this is just too complicated. We really don't know how this will turn out? I am sure that this is going to completely derail the trust that people have in the authorities.

I do fear it may be deadly to young people in the US?

The reason I suspect this to be true is that I see my young neighbors and MANY just look unhealthy... LOTS of OBESITY, many on chronic RXs. Unfortunately I think that this is going to mean that people have very little strength IF it is a nasty pneumonia/cytokine pro-inflammatory stimulator. There are few hospitals. These are also not people to load up on Vitamin C and other natural supports.

My brother told me he is not interested in trying any supplements.

The economy is very sketchy also. Most are hanging on barely. Even the well off are heavily mortgaged (as many of the houses here are second homes that are rented out). It may be a wrench in the works for Trump and people like him who say "The stock market looks good to me today". In my home town, tourism will decrease if not stop for some time and reverberate through all the small businesses. I will not be working as a massage therapist.

This is a huge wrench thrown in the cog of a matrix which has not been healthy for some time. I do not appreciate Jon Rappaport too much though because he is not helping me navigate this time of crisis.

Just I am a proud anti-vaxxer because I have studied what I can to learn "truth in medicine", I also did the best I could to understand what is occurring. This is indicative of how far out of sync we have become with our own WELL BEING. It shows how with our "It is complicated" world, there is very little flexibility. I am thinking this may well be real and yes, maybe as bad as expected. It is an avalanche of all our previous poor decisions and I don't mean in the last two months.....

Chickens come home to roost.

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[ExomatrixTV]

World Health Organization Corruption & Their Marxist, Robert Mugabe-Supporting Chief Exposed:
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[carnavas]

Hello fellow avalonians:bigsmile:
Found this article somewhere and thought about sharing it with you guys

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/jmv.25707

Stay well:bearhug:

[Philippe]

Guest - John Rappoport interviewed about the CoronaVirus
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I must retract my previous remark that Rappoport has it wrong because deadly pneumonia is preceded by a virus from influenza. I am sorry for that but it is important to know the difference between pathogens.
It is explained in Wikipedia that there exist bacterial pneumonia and viral pneumonia. Even in this article there are doubts about the causes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia#Bacteria

Rappoport in this interview does not go into the speculation that this corona virus can be a bio weapon. With his very extensive knowledge he goes into explaining how dangerous experiments are going on with developing vaccines.
He also describes well the different toxic pollutions in China that make people deadly sick. But he is not bringing up the 5G hazard. He stays in his field of expertise. This is not enough any longer.

[Conaire]

Side note: Ireland was to host a Rugby match this weekend, Ireland vs Italy, as part of the Six Nations tournament.

The match has been cancelled. The Irish minister for health, Simon Harris has been quoted as saying "the very clear view of the public health emergency team was that this game should not go ahead and that it would constitute a significant risk, because a very large number of people will be travelling from what is now an effected area".

Also, and although I can't confirm anything related to the following in the Irish media, people travelling from Italy to Ireland have been refused entry to Ireland and have been returned to Italy.

[GrayWolfBG]

As one of the many that H1N1 left with a 'Post Viral Syndrome' I would urge you all to take some time over the weeks to come to practice 'relaxation techniques'?

As we saw back in the 80's (when it was called 'Yuppie flu') the syndrome seems to strike those with high stress/high anxiety lives.

My take is that the 'fight or flight response is firmly locked 'On' in such people (my stresses were the 24/7 care of my seriously disabled son) so the immune system is switched 'Off' leaving you open to 'complications' from viruses that trigger the autoimmune cascade of symptoms?

I'm not being a 'killjoy' and telling you to lay off the hooch (if you self medicate with such?) but to get your head into as good a space as you can prior to exposure...... you DO NOT want to end up like me once you've survived the virus!!!

Be well people!

[Inaiá]

Brazil has the first confirmed case of the coronavirus COVID-19.

https://www.correiobraziliense.com.br/app/noticia/brasil/2020/02/26/interna-brasil,830583/homem-que-veio-da-italia-e-o-primeiro-caso-de-coronavirus-no-brasil.shtml

It's a 61 yo man, brazilian, who came back from Italy, Lombardia, on 02/21/2020, where he had been traveling for work.

The test on coronavirus was done twice and is confirmed.

The other passengers of the flight he was back to Brazil are going to be contacted to receive instructions on how to act.

There are other 3 suspected cases, all in the city of São Paulo.

The Ministry of Health will divulge today 02/26/2020 the plan on how they intend to avoid the dissemination of the virus in Brazil.

[Bill Ryan]

Brazil has the first confirmed case of the coronavirus COVID-19.

https://www.correiobraziliense.com.br/app/noticia/brasil/2020/02/26/interna-brasil,830583/homem-que-veio-da-italia-e-o-primeiro-caso-de-coronavirus-no-brasil.shtml

It's a 61 yo man, brazilian, who came back from Italy, Lombardia, on 02/21/2020, where he had been traviling for work.

The test on coronavirus was done twice and is confirmed.

The other passengers of the flight he was back to Brazil are going to be contacted to receive instructions on how to act.

There are other 3 suspected cases, all in the city of São Paulo.

The Ministry of Health will divulge today 02/26/2020 the plan on how they intend to avoid the dissemination of the virus in Brazil.Yes, thanks. São Paulo has a large Chinese population, as well. I have a friend who comes from São Paulo, and he told me 3 weeks ago it was certain the virus would spread there.

What this means is that it's now in South America, and within a month or less it'll be in every country there whether reported and tested or not. I've just warned Mara the :dog: to brace herself to possibly be on dry doggie rations for a while. :)

[Pam]

Hello fellow avalonians:bigsmile:
Found this article somewhere and thought about sharing it with you guys

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/jmv.25707

Stay well:bearhug:

BUMP--

Check out nutritional recommendations and rationale for use at the beginning of document. Great find, carnavas!

[RogeRio]

Brazil and Greece confirm first cases (https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-brazil-confirms-first-covid-19-case-in-south-america-11943575)

Greece has reported its first case and France the first death of one of its own nationals, with a 60-year-old man confirmed to have died in Paris overnight.

another approach about Italy (https://www.oantagonista.com/mundo/coronavirus-a-psicose-coletiva-italiana/)

all seven dead in Italy diagnosed with the new coronavirus were elderly and in poor health.

doctors heard by the Italian press say that it is more correct to say the seven people died with Covid-19, than by the Covid-19.

the general number of cases may be related to the fact that Italy is doing more tests on the population than other European countries. Ten times more than France, for example.

[Bill Ryan]

World Health Organization Corruption & Their Marxist, Robert Mugabe-Supporting Chief Exposed:
-2JPjN0RlkgJeez. :facepalm: Do watch this. It's only 6 minutes.

This clown (Tedros) always felt way way wrong, but I never knew the history, assuming all this is accurate. Get him outta there. I hope every news outlet, of any political persuasion, starts to apply strong public pressure.

This is a perfect storm, in so many ways.

Facebook and Google have been strongly recommending the WHO's statements, whatever they are, penalizing or even censoring other informed comment. Barely anything at all is working right to protect regular citizens from harm.

[Tintin]

Hello fellow avalonians:bigsmile:
Found this article somewhere and thought about sharing it with you guys

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/jmv.25707

Stay well:bearhug:

BUMP--

Check out nutritional recommendations and rationale for use at the beginning of document. Great find, carnavas!

Yes, it is :highfive:, along with your excellent tip in your post #1013 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1337811&viewfull=1#post1337811) and the Richard Hunt article (http://www.microbiologybook.org/virol/coronaviruses.htm) which lays out in a very clear way what coronaviruses are and how they are structured.

Both these now in the library as well :highfive:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/%5bWILEY%5d_Potential_Interventions_for_Novel_Coronavirus_in_China_A_Systematic_Review-(Zhang_and_Lui_Feb_2020)%20Wiley_article_jmv.25707.pdf

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Coronaviruses_Richard_Hunt_University_of_South_Carolina_School_of_Medicine.pdf

[Sophocles]

First Norwegian case confirmed - in Italy. A student in his 20s, traveled from Norway about a week ago.

Coronavirus, due nuovi tamponi positivi a Firenze: un vicino di casa dell’imprenditore e uno studente norvegese (https://corrierefiorentino.corriere.it/firenze/notizie/cronaca/20_febbraio_26/coronavirus-firenze-moglie-dell-imprenditore-tampone-negativo-me-mio-figlio-a9992c2a-5872-11ea-8ac8-f5da3705b70d.shtml?fbclid=IwAR1Cbux6_VwJH819yM9sye7P8_d0QP5h9ysPN6CnaEBZVCi0ITcobd9oV0k&refresh_ce-cp)

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Coronavirus, due nuovi contagiati a Firenze

Si tratta di uno studente norvegese e di un uomo amico dell'imprenditore 63enne risultato positivo al Covid-19 (https://www.lanazione.it/firenze/cronaca/coronavirus-1.5046893)

[Bill Ryan]

It's now in 43 countries, new cases now in Algeria (Africa) and Brazil (South America).

It's now a pandemic by any definition, pretty much uncontained despite whatever efforts different countries have made.

Iran, astonishingly, has refused to implement quarantines. That may not end well! And the strains active in Italy and Iran, for whatever reasons, seem to be more infectious than in other locations earlier. Speculations about mutation may start to be voiced in the mainstream soon.

So I'd expect the mainstream, in one form or another, to widely agree this is a pandemic, and announce it pretty much formally within 24-36 hours — whatever the WHO says.

[Free Bird]

The swine flu scare in 2009 turned out to be a damp squib but it was a huge money maker for the pharmaceutical companies with them being able to dump huge amounts of tamiflu on nation states for huge profits.

Following the money trail for this year's coronvid19 damp squib, the cash cow of nation states pays out on the home testing kits - now being rolled out in countries worldwide. . Easy money without having to produce a cure. Not cost effective for citizens but very profitable for the pharmaceutical industry.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2020/02/12/testing-for-covid-19-in-all-patients-with-unexplained-pneumonia-is-probably-not-cost-effective/amp/

[Karen (Geophyz)]

Brazil has confirmed the first coronavirus case in Latin America and will announce it shortly at a press conference, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter.

A 61-year-old Brazilian who recently traveled to Northern Italy for work tested positive in a preliminary test, the Health Ministry said in a statement late Tuesday evening. A second round of tests have confirmed the diagnosis, said the person, who isn’t authorized to speak publicly ahead of the press conference.

I think Bill is correct, the virus now fits the definition of a pandemic.

[Pam]

World Health Organization Corruption & Their Marxist, Robert Mugabe-Supporting Chief Exposed:
-2JPjN0RlkgJeez. :facepalm: Do watch this. It's only 6 minutes.

This clown (Tedros) always felt way way wrong, but I never knew the history, assuming all this is accurate. Get him outta there. I hope every news outlet, of any political persuasion, starts to apply strong public pressure.

This is a perfect storm, in so many ways.

Facebook and Google have been strongly recommending the WHO's statements, whatever they are, penalizing or even censoring other informed comment. Barely anything at all is working right to protect regular citizens from harm.

The depth of the corruption is nauseating. Then you have someone like Chris Martenson that deserves a top prize for journalism at it's best being penalized for what he is doing. You are so right, this is the perfect storm and most of us are on tiny row boats and will have no access to the luxury liner that awaits those that have allowed all of this to happen..

[Pam]

Today From India Trump says it's very much under control in the US.

Very much under control in the US (https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/coronavirus-is-very-much-under-control-in-usa-says-donald-trump)

New Delhi: US President Donald Trump on Tuesday said that the coronavirus is "very much under control" in the United States.

"The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries," Trump, who is on a state visit to India, posted on Twitter.

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From a follower on twitter: Thank you for keeping us safe!
If we had Hillary right now we would all be sick!


Trump praised the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) for their massive and "smart" efforts in preventing the novel coronavirus outbreak, which originated in the Chinese city of Wuhan, from becoming a global menace.

"CDC and World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" Trump said.

This tweet comes at the backdrop of Monday's 1,000 points point fall of US stocks as novel coronavirus cases were documented by health officials. Stocks closed with the Dow Jones Industrial Average index down by 1,031.61, the S&P 500 index down by 111.86 and the Nasdaq Composite index down by 355.31 points. Meanwhile, The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Monday there were 53 confirmed cases of the virus in the US.

I am not writing this with the intent of bashing Trump. Trump is a narcissist and as I have said before, that can have benefits in a leadership role. The guys resiliency is unmatched. As long as things are making him look good he will be golden, but what is going to happen when TSHTF? Trump sees the US as an extension of his greatness and when you challenge a narcissist they can become erratic.

Trump seems to have NO understanding that this is about a virus. You can't buy a virus off, you can't gain its favor, it will not be impressed even if it enters MAGA country. It simply wants to replicate and it will do everything it can to do that. It possesses a pure unwavering goal. In Trumps world he can always cajole, throw money at or make deals to obtain an outcome. Not this time. It will be interesting to watch him butt heads with this thing.

[Bill Ryan]

I am not writing this with the intent of bashing Trump. Trump is a narcissist and as I have said before, that can have benefits in a leadership role. The guys resiliency is unmatched. As long as things are making him look good he will be golden, but what is going to happen when TSHTF? Trump sees the US as an extension of his greatness and when you challenge a narcissist they can become erratic.

Trump seems to have NO understanding that this is about a virus. You can't buy a virus off, you can't gain its favor, it will not be impressed even if it enters MAGA country. It simply wants to replicate and it will do everything it can to do that. It possesses a pure unwavering goal. In Trumps world he can always cajole, throw money at or make deals to obtain an outcome. Not this time. It will be interesting to watch him butt heads with this thing.I agree with all that, 100%. I'm not a Trump basher either, but based on everything I believe I know, he's way, way off the mark here.

And he's also missing a real window of opportunity to be an inspiring, respected and transparent leader. He could be a populist savior here, but he's missing the boat. That's the weakness of having come from a corporate business background.

My sense is that while everything you say about him is correct (you can't influence or negotiate with a virus!), he's also being given bad advice from those around him.

He has his eyes on the election later this year — of course — and so do all his advisers, whose jobs depend on it. So he's being told it's all about the economy — but that may be very flawed when it comes to the hearts and minds of the nation when they start worrying about their children at school and at Church.

[RogeRio]

updating news

study : Coronavirus screening 'missing more than half of cases' (https://www.afp.com/en/news/826/coronavirus-screening-missing-more-half-cases-study-doc-1pc1ei1)

Global screening efforts to prevent the rapid spread of coronavirus are likely to fail, according to new research warning that even best-case screenings of air travellers will miss more than half of infected people.

"If someone doesn't realise they have been exposed, and doesn't yet show symptoms, then they are fundamentally undetectable," Katelyn Gostic, a postdoctoral scholar at the University of Chicago and lead author told AFP.

Upon screening, travellers fall into one of four categories: symptomatic but unaware of exposure; aware but asymptomatic; symptomatic and aware; and neither symptomatic nor aware.

"Substantial fractions of the people who have tested positive in quarantine... did not show any detectable symptoms at the time of diagnosis", said Gostic.

[Bill Ryan]

A good, clear, calm summary from Ethan Galstad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbjrpBRbuL8), whom I'm liking and respecting. Like Chris Martenson, he's not in any way evoking fear or panic. He's merely advising proactive informed awareness, and a bit of simple planning ahead.

Like: Hey, just make sure you have everything your family may need, just in case. This thing can come down on your neighborhood literally overnight. Don't wait till there are half mile lines at Costco, with fights breaking out in the supermarket. To pick up a bunch of supplies you may need is easy and inexpensive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbjrpBRbuL8

[Philippe]

This clown (Tedros) always felt way way wrong, but I never knew the history, assuming all this is accurate. Get him outta there. I hope every news outlet, of any political persuasion, starts to apply strong public pressure.

This is a perfect storm, in so many ways.

Facebook and Google have been strongly recommending the WHO's statements, whatever they are, penalizing or even censoring other informed comment. Barely anything at all is working right to protect regular citizens from harm.


The statements of the WHO affect so much. Wondering why they drag their feet to declare this an obvious pandemic ? It has huge importance for the insurance industry. Not to drag you in long reading but hereby some articles that show the interests in play.

"The Risk of Pandemics to the Insurance Industry"

https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/pandemics/brief/pandemic-emergency-financing-facility

https://content.naic.org/cipr_topics/topic_pandemics.htm

[frankstien]

Guest - John Rappoport interviewed about the CoronaVirus
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I must retract my previous remark that Rappoport has it wrong because deadly pneumonia is preceded by a virus from influenza. I am sorry for that but it is important to know the difference between pathogens.
It is explained in Wikipedia that there exist bacterial pneumonia and viral pneumonia. Even in this article there are doubts about the causes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia#Bacteria

Rappoport in this interview does not go into the speculation that this corona virus can be a bio weapon. With his very extensive knowledge he goes into explaining how dangerous experiments are going on with developing vaccines.
He also describes well the different toxic pollutions in China that make people deadly sick. But he is not bringing up the 5G hazard. He stays in his field of expertise. This is not enough any longer.

"Rappoport in this interview does not go into the speculation that this corona virus can be a bio weapon. "

Cue to 8 mins--he addresses this.

Rappoport, like David Icke and Benjamin Fulford (the guy Bill likes to poke fun at) are some of the few journalists who are trying to tell people to not buy into this Virus Scare so much. Hold back and look into more. In this interview Rappoport talks about previous Virus PsyOps, like the Swine Flu media scare. Just like bread and circuses people love to jump on the end of the world thrill ride--the NWO is awfully good at exploiting that.

[Chester]

Most Animals Can Harbor But Are Not Sickened By Coronavirus Because They Internally Produce Vitamin C 24/7

Vaccine Could Make Coronavirus Infections Worse

By Bill Sardi

February 26, 2020

The animal kingdom is largely immune from the ravages of coronaviruses, even the deadly one that is now infecting human populations. There is strong circumstantial as well as scientific evidence that wild mammals exhibit immunity from coronaviruses and viruses in general because most animals internally produce vitamin C.

read the rest HERE (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/bill-sardi/most-animals-can-harbor-but-are-not-sickened-by-coronavirus-because-they-internally-produce-vitamin-c-24-7/)

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Do we have evidence that anyone under 10 years has died due to virus?

[Chester]

Today is prediction day for me. You can slam me later on when (if) I am proven wrong.

I believe the freakout about COVID-19 will be looked upon as "way overblown."

Those who have allowed themselves to be "self-educated" by observing the dynamics of "public perception manipulation" (especially by taking the advanced, accelerated "courses" in such... those that have been so prevalent the last several years) have learned to observe "what they are telling us" and then "gauge the degree of fear" these efforts are attempting to achieve... then analyze these two within the framework of what "they" wish to achieve, and then...

...conclude quite the opposite!

Since I have begun to employ, with discipline and consistency, this very approach, I have found my accuracy rate of my conclusions which inform my predictions has been raised exponentially.

This COVID-19 will prove to be so.

[Eligos]

I am going to agree to disagree with you, I am not feeling the same way about this at all.
Just looking at the way Italy is suffering right now it’s definitely a prelude to what is coming to North America, Europe and the rest of the world.
I’m also observing the fact that it is being downplayed in many respects to save the economy.
My belief is that they failed miserably with H1N1 and now they will wait until it’s too late to take charge and inform us of the magnitude of this pandemic...panic will ensue and people will die needlessly.

[Bill Ryan]

I am going to agree to disagree with you, I am not feeling the same way about this at all.
Just looking at the way Italy is suffering right now it’s definitely a prelude to what is coming to North America, Europe and the rest of the world.
I’m also observing the fact that it is being downplayed in many respects to save the economy.
My belief is that they failed miserably with H1N1 and now they will wait until it’s too late to take charge and inform us of the magnitude of this pandemic...panic will ensue and people die needlessly.Early days yet (this hasn't been going for long!!), but if I may say, I also agree. This was in reply to Sammy's post above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1337973&viewfull=1#post1337973). Sammy, whom I respect a great deal, may be right, but at the moment I don't think he is. Of course, we may know much more soon.

A couple of weeks ago, I said we'd know more in a couple of weeks. Here we are now, and I do think we know more. To some degree, whether this is some kind of apocalypse killer plague is besides the point. (Of course it's not!) Everyone reading this will be just fine, because they already know how to take good care of themselves and their families.

It's the social and economic effects that are the macro factor. None of us can do a thing about those. They may be very wide-ranging, and ushered in via a Problem-Reaction-Solution mechanism. That's why we need to keep a very careful eye on this fast moving ball.

I do think there's a bigger game at play here, and I don't know what it exactly is. For those who missed it, I posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1337068&viewfull=1#post1337068) that I was now persuaded this is all orchestrated.

I still think that. Reading page 18 of this Rockefeller Foundation document (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1337066&viewfull=1#post1337066), there's a startlingly near-identical scenario, written in 2010, to what's happening now. Almost exactly. It's like a playbook, a script. I was really quite stunned.

I'm not entirely convinced all this is about vaccinations. I do believe the statements that any vaccine may be 12-18 months away. And if the thing starts to 'morph', and then continues to mutate — which is one thing we need to track carefully — then any vaccine would be useless anyway. It's like trying to hit a moving target.

The odds seem greater that it's a scenario to bring down the global economy, restrict travel, track citizens and their contacts, filter and censor communications, and kill off (or imprison) 'inconvenient' people — just like in China. That alone would usher in the NWO pretty fast.

And it's not impossible that this is targeted against the Chinese regime. The cost to the rest of the world's economy might be considered to be a price worth paying to run the Chinese right off the road and off a high cliff. (I do still think it's not impossible the Chinese regime may fall. If so, I'd applaud, but maybe not for too long if I saw clearly that this was all part of a larger NWO master plan.)

[Patient]

I am going to agree to disagree with you, I am not feeling the same way about this at all.
Just looking at the way Italy is suffering right now it’s definitely a prelude to what is coming to North America, Europe and the rest of the world.
I’m also observing the fact that it is being downplayed in many respects to save the economy.
My belief is that they failed miserably with H1N1 and now they will wait until it’s too late to take charge and inform us of the magnitude of this pandemic...panic will ensue and people die needlessly.Early days yet (this hasn't been going for long!!), but if I may say, I also agree. This was in reply to Sammy's post above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1337973&viewfull=1#post1337973). Sammy, whom I respect a great deal, may be right, but at the moment I don't think he is. Of course, we may know much more soon.

A couple of weeks ago, I said we'd know more in a couple of weeks. Here we are now, and I do think we know more. To some degree, whether this is some kind of apocalypse killer plague is besides the point. (Of course it's not!) Everyone reading this will be just fine, because they already know how to take good care of themselves and their families.

It's the social and economic effects that are the macro factor. None of us can do a thing about those. They may be very wide-ranging, and ushered in via a Problem-Reaction-Solution mechanism. That's why we need to keep a very careful eye on this fast moving ball.

I do think there's a bigger game at play here, and I don't know what it exactly is. For those who missed it, I posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1337068&viewfull=1#post1337068) that I was now persuaded this is all orchestrated.

I still think that. Reading page 18 of this Rockefeller Foundation document (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1337066&viewfull=1#post1337066), there's a startlingly near-identical scenario, written in 2010, to what's happening now. Almost exactly. It's like a playbook, a script. I was really quite stunned.

I'm not entirely convinced all this is about vaccinations. I do believe the statements that any vaccine may be 12-18 months away. And if the thing starts to 'morph', and then continues to mutate — which is one thing we need to track carefully — then any vaccine would be useless anyway. It's like trying to hit a moving target.

The odds seem greater that it's a scenario to bring down the global economy, restrict travel, track citizens and their contacts, filter and censor communications, and kill off (or imprison) 'inconvenient' people — just like in China. That alone would usher in the NWO pretty fast.

And it's not impossible that this is targeted against the Chinese regime. The cost to the rest of the world's economy might be considered to be a price worth paying to run the Chinese right off the road and off a high cliff. (I do still think it's not impossible the Chinese regime may fall. If so, I'd applaud, but maybe not for too long if I saw clearly that this was all part of a larger NWO master plan.)

I agree...and I think it is one part of the orchestration. Due to it being an illness, it is something everyone can see as opposed to things that occur behind the curtain. Vaccinations have always been a part of it, but as the effects, like autism for example, have affected people quickly and thus have been more noticable as being linked to vaccinations as opposed to something like cancer that comes on years later.

Maybe things have been moving too slowly for TPTB. I suppose it remains to be seen.

[onawah]

Coronavirus covert operation
by Jon Rappoport
February 27, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/26/coronavirus-covert-operation/

"In my ongoing coverage of the “epidemic” (archive here: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/category/sars/ ), I’ve written about the covert-operation aspect of the brutal game.

I want to add a few notes.

By its very nature, a covert op is meant to CONCEAL its true goals and details and players, so it’s no surprise we have unanswered questions. Rushing to supply all the answers in five minutes is a futile exercise.

A covert op can be invented and planned from the get-go; or players, seeing an event unfold, can jump onboard in mid-stream, take control, and use the event to launch an operation.

A covert op has cover stories and false trails. These are standard in the intelligence business.

A cover story is designed to divert attention from what is actually going on. It is basically a false picture floated to obscure the truth. The intent is: get people dividing into camps and arguing with each other about VARIATIONS of the cover story—thus taking them further from the hidden facts and motives.

In this case, the cover story would be: a contagious virus jumped species in China and started harming and killing people; it’s spread.

People began taking sides: the contagious coronavirus is a natural microbe; it’s a leak from a biowar lab; it was weaponized in a lab and intentionally released; it’s rather harmless for the most part; it’s deadly; its effects are somehow magnified by interacting with chemtrails; because people are dying, the virus must be the cause, etc.

Once people have divided into camps, the covert operators can twist several of these cover-story variations, thus creating false trails, down which people can travel, without ever reaching an end.

For example, a loose study might appear “which proves the coronavirus is a bioweapon.” If you read the study carefully, though, you realize the authors aren’t claiming the virus has been weaponized. Further, the study authors are saying the virus has a peculiarity which MIGHT mean THIS or COULD mean THAT or POSSIBLY IMPLIES something else. And there appear to be no other studies which confirm any of these equivocal findings.

But within an hour of the study being published, fifty thousand people on the Web are circulating this “proof of weaponization.”

In any so-called epidemic, you will see some ex-military or ex-intelligence spook appear out of nowhere with “expert insider testimony” about the virus. He “knows it’s a weapon.” Therefore, it must be.

Likewise, other authority figures will show up to capture audiences with unproven revelations about the “bioweapon virus,” or “the leak of the virus from a lab,” or the “theft of the virus.” Their audience, having rejected conventional media and government authorities, is looking for alternative substitutes. And they’ll get substitutes.

Notice that, in all these insider pronouncements, whatever they are, there is a re-enforcement of the basic idea that THE VIRUS is the cause of the “epidemic.” BUT REMEMBER, “THE VIRUS” IS THE BASIC COVER STORY. Planners of a covert op want people to buy the basic cover any which way.

To illustrate these points, imagine that, in an area of forest 30 miles from a town, people discover a large patch of dead trees. Some have fallen over. Others, leafless and gray, are still standing. At first, no one takes action. Then, it’s obvious the patch is growing larger. More trees are falling down. More branches and leaves are drying up and dropping on the ground.

The town newspaper, aided by pronouncements from local officials, runs a story about a fire. There was a fire in that part of the forest. It was “so severe and hot, its effects are still being felt.” NOW, people begin arguing about the cause of the fire. It was a lightning hit. Someone set a blaze, using flammable liquid that burned at an exceptionally high temperature. Drug dealers fought with one another and burned up the drugs. A sinister creature, half-animal, half-human, rumored to live in the woods, set the fire. ET aliens set the blaze. Their small ship crashed and burned.

The fire is the cover story. People are arguing about variations of the basic cover. Actually, six months ago, a town firm that secretly sells a dangerous and illegal pesticide, believing they were about to get busted, sent employees with drums of the poison into the forest to dump them. That’s what happened. But the cover story is now so ingrained in minds, few people will consider there was no fire…THERE HAD TO BE A FIRE.

After having researched and written about epidemic duds (SARS, Swine Flu, Ebola, Zika, etc.) for many years, I’ve taken a different approach.

I’ve asked more BASIC questions at every turn.

If public health officials and governments announce an outbreak and a virus, I ask, “How did they discover the new virus?” That’s a reasonable inquiry. “Did they really find and isolate a new virus?” “What procedures did they use for the job?” “Are those procedures accurate and valid?” “Did the scientists who rushed to the outbreak-locale to take tissue samples—are these the CDC or World Health Organization virus hunters who always find a new virus, even if, at the designated location, an industrial corporation is releasing torrents of polluted poison into the ground and the water?

Which leads me to my next basic question: assuming some harm is being visited on people, are there clear causes that have nothing to do with a virus, causes that would account for the profile of harm that has been announced? And if so, who would benefit from hiding these other clear causes by using the cover story of a virus? Corporations, governments? Who would benefit, on the back end, from the virus cover story? Drug companies? Vaccine companies?

I ask: how many cases of the “epidemic” have been announced? How many deaths? Exactly how are these cases being identified and counted? What diagnostic tests are being done? Are the tests accurate and valid? Again, this is a reasonable inquiry. If the authorities are claiming a certain number of people are being harmed, I want to find out HOW these “experts” are coming to that conclusion.

I ask: what is the list of symptoms being attributed to the “epidemic illness?” Are these symptoms so generalized they already fit large numbers of people without the claim that the cause is a new virus? For example, are typical flu-like symptoms, which apply to millions of people, suddenly being shifted over and counted as cases of the “new epidemic?”

I ask: in all modern epidemics, are there common, long-accepted medical tests and procedures which are arbitrary and unproven, which should be openly debated, but aren’t? Is the story of a virus used to hide corporate and government crimes?

There are other questions I ask, but you get the idea. I go under the cover story of the moment and look for more fundamental lies and truths. I hit the “stress points” of the cover story.

These basic questions have generated all my previous articles on the current “coronavirus crisis.”

I keep asking, looking, and answering.

If I find out, in asking and answering these questions that, yes, questionable procedures have been used in discovering the new virus in the first place; unworkable, dubious, and worthless tests have been used to diagnose and label patients with the epidemic disease; cases are undoubtedly “imported” from traditional diseases, in order to falsely inflate the number of cases in the epidemic; causes of illness, other than the virus, are present in an area where the epidemic started; the epidemic illness is a familiar generalized list of symptoms which are present in millions of people—if I find out all these things, then the “new epidemic” with a new viral cause is a con job.

If, after stripping away the number of people claimed to be “epidemic cases” who most likely aren’t, I find that the true number of cases appears to be small, then there is no epidemic.

If the number of cases still seems to be high, then I look deeper into non-viral causes which are currently operating, and influencing illness.

For my findings on this “coronavirus epidemic,” I suggest going back and reading all my articles in this ongoing series (archive here).

For those who have been with me from the beginning, I thank you for your support and interest.

I’ll close this piece with an example. In 2003, there was another coronavirus epidemic: SARS. Its symptoms were basic flu with, in some cases, acute respiratory problems.

As I’ve detailed, a Canadian biologist, Frank Plummer, working for the World Health Organization, spoke frankly to the press, saying the number of SARS patients with the coronavirus was fewer and fewer. In fact, it was approaching zero. This, obviously, cut the legs out from under the claim that SARS was a new disease caused by a new coronavirus.

Where did SARS begin? Where was it first found? Guangdong, China. In their excellent book, Virus Mania, Torsten Engelbrecht and Claus Kohnlein explore non-virus causes of flu-like illness in that locale. They found causes. It turns out this area is one of the world’s largest re-cyclers of e-waste:

“Guangdong is China’s largest industrial area…extremely polluted. Garbage lies everywhere; above all high-tech waste…For $1.50 a day, locals disassemble computers, monitors and printers with their bare hands, endangering both their own health and the environment… There, workers empty toner cartridges from laser printers the whole day long without protective masks, breathing in fine carbon dust. Others, mostly women and girls, dip circuit boards into baths of liquid lead to separate and collect the soldering materials with which the memory chips and processors are attached to the plates. Unprotected, they are exposed to toxic fumes. While the plastic plates are simply burned up, the chips and processors are put in acid baths, to extract their gold. Here as well, poisonous fumes are generated, and the unusable leftover acids are just dumped into the river. A lot of garbage is simply burned up or dumped onto rice fields, irrigation facilities or into waterways. The bodies of water and groundwater around Guiys have become so contaminated that drinking water has to be brought in daily from other cities…”

A real cause of real illness. No need for a virus. Except…as a cover story."


(It seems likely to me that, even if a flu vaccine isn't ready yet to be pushed, simply by the amount of fear, conflict and comfusion being generated by all the hype about a pandemic TPTB will find it easier to push the mandatory vaccine agenda. More people will be eager to comply, and all the more ready to attack anti-vaxers. Not to mention what a great distraction, especially from all the other environmental factors which are causing illness. Loosh galore! :croc:

[Bill Ryan]

Steve Bannon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon) talked at length with Simone Gao two days ago. Bannon is adamant that the situation is very far from being "under control' in China.

It's a very strong interview, highly recommended. Bannon does NOT mince his words. :)

There's not a single thing he says that I disagree with. And, once again, it really isn't impossible that the Chinese regime may fall.

I'd SO celebrate that. (But then, I'd soon be very worried what might be coming next...)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlF0LcQO9Tg

[wondering]

Onawah, Is it too late for you to run for President?? lol Diane

[Karen (Geophyz)]

A covert op has cover stories and false trails. These are standard in the intelligence business.

So.....by this reasoning.....is your story a cover story or false trail? :Angel:

[Dick]

Strange things happen: Today there was a confirmed case of the coronavirus in Germany, and the man had visited the Netherlands one week ago, but the RIVM, the dutch centre for disease control sayd: no need to trace the people and area where he was because he wasn’t ill one week ago, so he couldn’t infect anyone else:confused::confused: I thought i read somewhere that the incubation time was 14 to 24 days .....so why they make that decision? I really don’t know.
So far no confirmed case here, lets see what happens within one week or so.....

[Bill Ryan]

I thought i read somewhere that the incubation time was 14 to 24 days .....so why they make that decision? I really don’t know.That's 100% correct, widely agreed now. Some say it might even be 27 days in unusual cases.

That makes it all really hard to control, especially if someone might have no symptoms all that time yet still be spreading the virus to many people they meet. The RIVM (Dutch Center for Disease Control) should watch a few more YouTube videos. :) (Or, maybe, read the Lancet or the New England Journal of Medicine.)

[thepainterdoug]

Bill, Steve Bannon video, the most important one I have heard to date! all need to listen to this. t y

[Sophocles]

First case just confirmed in Norway. First test analyzis was negative, the second positive. She shows no symptoms and feels fine. Got back from (probably China or Italy) last weekend. Self quarantine for 14 days.

[ExomatrixTV]

⚠️ Coronavirus is in my opinion most likely a Common Cold (or Common Flu? or both?) Virus that hurts weak people and may die because of having a too weak immune system! ... This always happened for centuries a small percentage DIE because of a flu virus ... But now with cumulative harmful mass 4G Cell Towers & soon #5G Cell Towers everywhere & WiFi & Bluetooth & Cordless Headsets Phones "Healthy People" ALSO get weaker! (let that sink in for a moment ...)

Can please anyone make a list of what is attacking and/or disrupting our immune-system last 20 years.

Did you know Governments admitted we have huge rise of "Mystery Illnesses" meanwhile if you study the declassified Military & Navy Documents discussing Microwave Sickness Symptoms of the 1960s, 70s & 80s from the SAME RANGE FREQUENCIES that 5G will use! ... Microwave Sickness Symptoms are almost identical with current #EHS Symptoms* which are officially recognized by European Commission & Parliament.

* EHS = Electromagnetic hypersensitivity

If they push Mandatory Vaccines on all of us THAT could be much worse than having a common cold flu virus, see video why!

Video: tinyurl.com/MandatoryVaccines-are-Worse (http://tinyurl.com/MandatoryVaccines-are-Worse)

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John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
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[Pam]

Trump rips coronavirus coverage, to hold news conference




President Trump said in an early morning tweet on Wednesday that he will hold a news conference at 6 p.m. to address his administration's response to the coronavirus outbreak.

In the post, he continued to blame the media and Democrats for overstating the danger of the disease, even as health experts have warned of its spread.

Trump accused MSNBC and CNN of "doing everything possible to make the Caronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets, if possible."
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He insisted the U.S. is "in great shape" in its handling of the disease, adding that he and health officials will hold a news conference at the White House on Wednesday evening.

I will be having a News Conference at the White House, on this subject, today at 6:00 P.M. CDC representatives, and others, will be there. Thank you!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 26, 2020

The president's tweets appeared to underscore his focus on how the deadly disease is affecting financial markets. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost nearly 2,000 points over the last two days.

Trump is facing mounting pressure over his handling of the coronavirus from lawmakers and health officials, who warned on Tuesday that the country should prepare for an outbreak of cases in the U.S.

“It’s not a question of if this will happen but when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illnesses,” Nancy Messonnier, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters. “Disruption to everyday life might be severe.”

There are 57 confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the U.S., including in 40 Americans who were repatriated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

Republicans and Democrats alike have signaled the government response has thus far been insufficient to prepare for the spread of the coronavirus in the U.S. The Trump administration requested $2.5 billion in additional funding to combat the disease, a figure some lawmakers viewed as inadequate.

But Trump and other administration officials have sought to downplay the severity of the disease within U.S. borders. The president has repeatedly attacked the media and Democrats, claiming they refuse to give him credit for his handling of the coronavirus, while top economic adviser Larry Kudlow on Tuesday asserted that the virus was “contained.”


https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/484671-trump-to-hold-news-conference-on-coronavirus

This is the kind of response that I was concerned about, however, it does make sense that the democratic party and their MSM puppets might use this opportunity to make Trump look as bad as possible. Their desperate attempts thus far have failed miserably. It will be telling to hear what he has to say about it.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, Steve Bannon video, the most important one I have heard to date! all need to listen to this. t yYes, here it is. I agreed with every word. I was really impressed.


Steve Bannon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon) talked at length with Simone Gao two days ago. Bannon is adamant that the situation is very far from being "under control' in China.

It's a very strong interview, highly recommended. Bannon does NOT mince his words. :)

There's not a single thing he says that I disagree with. And, once again, it really isn't impossible that the Chinese regime may fall.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlF0LcQO9Tg

[Bill Ryan]

First case just confirmed in Norway. First test analyzis was negative, the second positive. She shows no symptoms and feels fine. Got back from (probably China or Italy) last weekend. Self quarantine for 14 days.This is what the BBC reported (https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-51628990): (my added emphasis)

Norway has become the latest European nation to register a case of coronavirus.
The country's public health agency has confirmed the news.
The person returned from China late last week and has been isolated at home.
The person was unlikely to have infected others, the agency said.
As in the Netherlands (see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1338019&viewfull=1#post1338019)), the Norwegian health authorities don't seem to understand she could have been infecting others all the time, even with no symptoms. How about whoever she sat next to, maybe on several planes, on her long flight back from China??

[Bill Ryan]

Trump rips coronavirus coverage, to hold news conference
Here's where it'll be livestreamed, starting at 6.30 pm (37 mins from now). It might be pretty important for his credibility. He has a major opportunity, missed or not taken so far, of being an inspiring, transparent, tell-it-straight-just-like-it-is leader.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_0iw62a6PQ&feature=youtu.be

[Chester]

It might be interesting to monitor the CDC's webpage for COVID-19

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html

[Bill Ryan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_0iw62a6PQ&feature=youtu.beWell, I'd give that press conference about 2/10. Maybe 1.5. Maybe not even that. :)

I'll be very interested to read the analyses, both in the mainstream and in the alt media. (I'll be particularly interested in what Alex Jones says.)

[Chester]

Hey Bill, what did you expect from a briefing by a US President to, primarily, the US?

I am here in the US and I am left with a feeling that the US Government is quite capable of achieving the best outcome possible, that the medical community here is of the best in the world and that the US response with regards to minimizing the potential fuller impact has been excellent.

The key data point is how quick the US stopped travel from China (and other countries as that has happened).

Another point to make (with a caveat)* is with regards to the rest of the world and specifically China is that the help offered cannot "help" if it is refused. The help being the expertise of the CDC. In addition, the claimed lack of transparency (some speculate, honesty) from China obviously makes it harder for experts at the CDC to make more definitive determinations and thus make recommendations as to what should be realistic further precautions to take relative to the fallout of overreaction. The line is fine between fear and panic.

It is very interesting to see Trump has finally wised up with regards to involving "outsiders" like appointing some "COVID19 Czar." Brilliant IMO to run it through the folks within his administration who are wholly capable of managing the situation.

Trump communicated the need to be vigilant, cautious and prepared for potential eventualities. This was clear and was made clear more than once, including during the followup Q&A.

Every aspect of the situation I wanted to be informed about, I was informed about. The confidence I wanted to come away with from this briefing is exactly what I now have.

*the caveat - I cannot know if the CDC folks are truly the top people in the world regarding these types of situations. I guess we'll see.

[Sarah Rainsong]

This is a very good article out of Singapore that outlines possible scenarios. I'm on my phone so all I can do is give the link for now: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/covid-19-coronavirus-scenarios-get-worse-mitigation-pandemic-12471898

[Sarah Rainsong]

Sammy, I've been following the CDC since this started. I don't find them helpful except for demonstrating how inept they are.

They should be updating everyday. They're not.

They should be testing WAY more people at this point. They're not.

They should be very clear about how many people are being monitored or however they care to term it. They're not.

It's obvious they have no intention of being transparent about what's going on, IF they even know themselves.

The WHO is not any better.

Worldometer had a coronavirus monitor that is upsetting [ah the irony of autocorrect! I mean updating] MUCH better information and faster than anything the CDC or WHO has out.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Bill Ryan]

This is a very good article out of Singapore that outlines possible scenarios. I'm on my phone so all I can do is give the link for now: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/covid-19-coronavirus-scenarios-get-worse-mitigation-pandemic-12471898Thanks, a very interesting article. Here it is. (Singapore has been setting an example in how to handle all this that the rest of the world could do well to follow.)

Commentary: Three scenarios if the COVID-19 outbreak gets worse
27 Feb, 2020

SINGAPORE: The COVID-19 outbreak has us all on edge, seeing how badly it is affecting China and not knowing whether or when we’ll see similar scenes here.

Singapore’s response has been singled out for praise by WHO chief Dr Tedros Adhanom and Harvard don Professor Marc Lipsitch, but can we keep it up if the outbreak gets worse?

Even if Singapore is successful at containing the current wave of infections, developments in the rest of the world may seed subsequent waves of outbreak despite our best efforts at preventing further importations.

The rising numbers of infections in Italy, Iran, South Korea and Japan over the past week suggest this scenario cannot be ruled out.

It would be rash to say what we think will happen given the uncertainties involved. But it is only prudent for governments to consider scenarios for how the outbreak and its control may affect our lives in the months ahead, based on our studies of past outbreaks, and see if current plans can sufficiently tackle these challenges.

SCENARIO 1: THE OUTBREAK BECOMES WORSE BUT CAN BE CONTAINED

The first scenario is one where countries manage to bring the virus under control, despite numbers growing worldwide.

Through the unprecedented social distancing imposed by their government, the outbreak in China is brought under control within a few months.

Other countries manage to stop COVID-19 outbreaks from becoming established and the nature of transmission of the virus has led to its successful containment.

In Singapore, there is a sizable number of clusters because of our proximity to the worst affected countries, but each of these is brought under control by contact tracing, quarantine and isolation.

Because it looks controllable, government officers continue to work round-the-clock tracing contacts, and issuing quarantine orders. The number of cases never gets so high that hospital capacities are exceeded, though elective surgeries are postponed and healthcare workers are forced to work even longer hours than normal.

As the outbreak globally dies down, clusters in Singapore become fewer and smaller, and the economy starts to pick up again.

Locally, there may be a few dozen deaths. Globally the death toll exceeds SARS but doesn’t come close to the H1N1 influenza pandemic of 2009.

By the middle of the year, life for most people has gone back to normal, though there is a glut of toilet paper on Carousell.

SCENARIO 2: THE OUTBREAK BECOMES UNSTOPPABLE

A second scenario is less optimistic. By the time the outbreak has abated in China, through a mix of control efforts and the virus running out of people to infect, it has already established new foci in Europe, Asia and around the world.

More clusters start to appear in Singapore with no link to China. As more unlinked cases appear, eventually there is no point continuing travel restrictions and the government response switches from containment to mitigation.

After moving to the mitigation phase, intensive contact tracing has stopped, as cases are too numerous to track.

The focus switches to stopping the most vulnerable — the very young, the elderly and those with underlying conditions — from getting infected, and ensuring all those infected receive prompt treatment.

As the case counts rise, it starts to look as if hospitals may run out of capacity, so schools are closed and companies ask their staff to work from home to slow down the transmission so that the peak of the number of cases does not overwhelm hospitals.

After some time of rising case counts, and as hospitals get perilously close to running out of ICU beds, the number of cases begins to drop. Evidence starts to emerge that many people have been infected, but with mild symptoms, for the most part like a common cold or flu.

Through a combination of social distancing and herd immunity, the epidemic can no longer sustain itself. In a few more months it is all over.

Hundreds of Singaporeans have died, but the consensus is, it could have been much worse.

SCENARIO 3: THE MOTHER OF PANDEMICS

The third scenario outlines developments after new foci outside China keep growing and deaths begin to mount. Governments switch from trying to contain to trying to mitigate the new pandemic.

It becomes clear that the analogies to seasonal influenza were wrong, there are fewer mild cases than we thought, and a substantial fraction of infections need to be hospitalised.

Singapore move to DORSCON Red, and normal life grinds to a halt. Schools and workplaces are closed, a curfew is imposed, and field hospitals are established to take the overflow from the hospitals.

After several months, with thousands dead in Singapore, and millions worldwide, the number of cases begins to drop.

By the end of the outbreak, a shell-shocked world starts to pull itself together and implement reforms to better detect and respond to outbreaks, vowing this will never happen again.

THE RISK OF A WORSENING SITUATION HAS GROWN

The COVID-19 outbreak is an incredibly fast-moving event. Every day brings new information about the biology of the virus, how it spreads, what proportion of people are in critical condition, and new information about where in the world the virus now is.

Over the weekend we had news of large surges of yet-to-be-linked cases in Iran, Italy and South Korea. This has led experts around the world to believe that the window for limiting the epidemic to China is rapidly closing.

If COVID-19 is as transmissible here as it appears to be in China, then eventually a large-scale outbreak in Singapore will be unavoidable. Once it breaks the cordon of contact tracing, the virus will only stop when enough people have immunity through infection or vaccination.

If that should happen, our efforts now would have bought us a few months to be better prepared, for more and better information from Singapore and overseas to be available on the severity and origins of this virus, and for our doctors to have better treatment options and diagnostic measures.

Whether scenario 2 or 3 is more likely will depend on how accurate reporting has been. We saw similar uncertainty about H1N1 in 2009: That pandemic seemed extremely severe at first, but this was because the milder cases in Mexico were not being tallied well.

As more outbreaks, and deaths, occur outside China, just how severe this epidemic will be should soon become clear.

SHIFT IN RESPONSES NEEDED IF SITUATION EVOLVES FURTHER

The COVID-19 outbreak has the potential to be an unprecedented event within our lifetimes.

Singapore is at the forefront of the global response. However, the biology of the virus and global developments may require a shift in the response to the threat as the epidemic unrolls.

Right now, at an individual level, we can ensure we use good personal hygiene and limit contacts such as handshaking. Those of us who get infected can protect others by not going to work when we are sick, isolating ourselves and wearing a mask.

We should remember that a mild infection may feel like a regular cold to one person, but could be very serious for someone else catching the virus.

At the societal level, our forbearance of social distancing measures may be necessary if the outbreak does appear to follow the paths depicted in the second or third scenarios.

[Delight]

First U.S. coronavirus case of unknown origin confirmed in Northern California, CDC says
BY DARRELL SMITH AND CATHIE ANDERSON
FEBRUARY 26, 2020 04:31 PM (https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article240674471.html#storylink=topdigest_latest)

Officials with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed the nation’s first coronavirus case of unknown origin Wednesday in Northern California in the latest sign of the virus’ rapid spread.

“It is a confirmed case. There is one in Northern California,” CDC spokesman Scott Pauley told The Sacramento Bee just before 4 p.m. Wednesday. Pauley declined to elaborate.

It was immediately unknown where in Northern California the case was discovered, but officials have begun to trace the person’s contacts as they sleuth out where and how the person may have become infected and whether others have been exposed, The Washington Post reports.

I have been listening to some of
Steve Bannon's podcasts. (https://warroom.org/podcast/)

One thing IMO is certain... the economy we have counted upon is on the way to the hospital needing ICU but Trump seems happy.

[frankstien]

Jon Rappoport recommends this video regarding the CoronaVirus and 5G Tech--
(I believe it was posted earlier on this thread)

The BEST NEWS re CΟRΟNΑ Virus you've heard all month! Kinda.
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How to stage a fake epidemic (and brainwash billions of people)
February 26, 2020
by Jon Rappoport

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/26/how-to-stage-a-fake-epidemic-and-brainwash-billions-of-people/



“When gigantic mega-corporations steal land from Third World people and then poison these people with horrific pollution, why isn’t it called murder? Is that too stark? Does it offend delicate sensibilities? Would you say that a drug gang who shoots up a bar and kills ten innocent bystanders is just carrying out ‘typical business practices in their field of endeavor’, and should therefore never be prosecuted in a court of law on a charge of homicide?” (The Underground, Jon Rappoport)

—This article assembles facts contained in my ongoing series on the “China epidemic.” To get the details, I recommend going back and reading all those articles (archive here).

If a group wants to stage a fake and frightening epidemic, how would they do it?

First of all, what reasons would they have to launch such an audacious plan?

On one level, they want to cover up human harm that is already occurring. They want to explain this harm with a false story. For example, suppose a combination of deadly corporate air and water and 5G* electronic pollution is making people sick and killing them. The parties responsible are surely not going to admit their crimes. No. Instead, they’re going to claim a new virus is causing this harm in the form of, say, lung disease. The virus just “emerged.” “It showed up out of nowhere. It crossed species from animals to humans.”

So…the first thing needed is a cluster of cases in one locale. A small group of people who have the same symptoms. This is easy to find. How about ordinary flu symptoms? Fever, fatigue, weakness, with an emphasis on lung complications [from the forms of pollution]. A few of these people are very ill. Two of them die. Now, the publicity/news machine swings into gear.

It’s called an “outbreak.” It isn’t, but that’s the story. “They were all ‘exposed to something’” at, say, a riverfront dock restaurant.

The news—shoveled directly into mainstream outlets—comes from elite public health agencies like the CDC and the World Health Organization (WHO).

It’s an OUTBREAK.

To use a technical term, this is all BULL****.

Full article here--
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/26/how-to-stage-a-fake-epidemic-and-brainwash-billions-of-people/

[Bill Ryan]

On one level, they want to cover up human harm that is already occurring. They want to explain this harm with a false story. For example, suppose a combination of deadly corporate air and water and 5G* electronic pollution is making people sick and killing them. The parties responsible are surely not going to admit their crimes. No. Instead, they’re going to claim a new virus is causing this harm in the form of, say, lung disease. And at the same time, shut down most of their own functioning economy. Not a chance. :)


...but Trump seems happy.I have to say, I was pretty surprised how uninformed he was in his press conference. (But then, it depends who he's been briefed by.)

For me, it came over as pretty awful. If he intended it to be a show of leadership and confidence, that wasn't conveyed to me. The markets may signal their own opinion overnight and tomorrow.

[thepainterdoug]

FOLLOW THE MONEY. In my opinion. No one would be faking this event, shutting down cities , destroying businesses, at the cost of billions of dollars in commerce , market losses and so on, for some false flag reason unless the reason will make bigger returns for those who planned it. And I don't know who that would be.

The Steve Bannon summation posted by Bill is the one that resonates with me. so Im going with that in mind.

President Trump tonight did a great job of being a politician, and calming fears as he needs to do. The contradictions were many , but I see the reasoning and agree a need to put this positive face on it. But the reality will be coming and even Trump let us know, you better start to plan your hunker down. And it was amazing to hear the truth that a vaccine is at least a year and a half away at best. So its going to be up to the individual.

its going to be Russian roulette when you walk out the door from her on. keep mindful of all common sense precautions and plan for the worst, and be pleasantly surprised if it turns out for the best.

Bill I understand how you felt about the Trump talk. But what was he going to tell us.?He said it in between the lines, but he's trying to keep investors in the game. Thats my guess.

[onawah]

Just Like Her Corrupt Brother Rod Rosenstein — The CDC’s Dr. Nancy Messonnier, Drops a Bomb on President Trump While On International Trip
by Joe Hoft
February 26, 202
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/just-like-her-corrupt-brother-rod-rosenstein-the-cdcs-dr-nancy-messonnier-drops-a-bomb-on-president-trump-while-on-international-trip/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Rosenstein-and-Sister-Messonnier-600x362.jpg

"The brother of the CDC’s Dr. Nancy Messonnier, is the corrupt disgraced former DAG Rod Rosenstein.
Following in his footsteps, Dr. Messonnier dropped a bomb on President Trump while he was in India yesterday.
Yesterday, the CDC unexpectedly announced startling news about the coronavirus in the US. This rattled the markets and led to another downturn of hundreds of points in the DOW for the second straight day:

"As we’ve seen from recent countries with community spread, when it has hit those countries, it has moved quite rapidly. We want to make sure the American public is prepared,” said Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s national center for immunization and respiratory diseases. “As more and more countries experience community spread, successful containment at our borders becomes harder and harder.”

Dr. Nancy continued:

"Ultimately, we expect we will see spread in this country. It’s not so much a question of if this will happen anymore, but rather a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness,” Messonnier said Tuesday."

The Dr. continued:

"I understand this whole situation may seem overwhelming and that disruption to everyday life may be severe, but these are things people need to start thinking about now,” said Messonnier, who told her own family to begin preparing for community spread and the resulting “significant disruption” of their lives.

Right now CDC is operationalizing all of its pandemic preparedness and response plans, working on multiple fronts including specific measures to prepare communities to respond to local transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19,” Messonnier said. “Now is the time for businesses, hospitals, communities, schools, and everyday people to begin preparing as well.”

Dr. Messonnier’s comments came as the President and the First Lady were outside the country and traveling in India. The trip was going very well as expected, but this news was a startling rebuke of the President’s efforts to date to curtail the virus.

This was eerily similar to past Presidential trips when former and corrupt DAG Rod Rosenstein and the corrupt and criminal Mueller gang would drop shocking news as the President was overseas.
In July 2018, for example, corrupt Rosenstein, announced the indictments of 12 Russians right before the President was departing on a trip to meet Russian President Putin. Rosenstein reported on these Russians who will never come to the US for prosecution and who likely had nothing to do with anything related to the crimes.

Rosenstein’s Deep State friends, the Democrat Party, regularly schedule hateful events when the President is overseas:

"Every time President Trump is strengthening our country on the international stage, Democrats are trying to bring him down.

There is only one word to describe their actions. ⇨ Sabotage. pic.twitter.com/N0uLR7Wgzv "

— Kevin McCarthy (@GOPLeader) January 17, 2020

Even Republican Senators slammed President President Trump when he was at the historic Normandy remembrance ceremony.


As far as the coronavirus goes, the US has identified 57 individuals with the virus and no deaths.

"COVID-19: Confirmed Cases in the United States
Travel-related – 12
Person-to-person spread – 2
Total confirmed cases – 14
Total Deaths – 0
Total tested – 426

350 million people in the US

Numbers closed out at 4 p.m. EDT daily reporting."

SOUND THE DAMN ALARM."

[Delight]

We all have been in front of the crowd for weeks. One of the issues is that in a few weeks, pharmaceuticals will be getting scarce. Listening to Steve Bannon, I heard that viatamin C comes from China. I think from everything I have read, taking sufficient C will help very much. So I am just reminding people that maybe some items are important to order now.

I found this on twitter from Ian Mackay

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERMZ9j1UUAAYokl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Explains RNA vaccines here

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[ExomatrixTV]

The Truth About the Coronavirus - SPREADS!

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oronavirus cases emerge faster outside China: WHO First case of #coronavirus (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23coronavirus) in Pakistan confirmed by Officials. Iran is now one of the epicenters of the #coronavirus (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23coronavirus) outbreak, with the second-highest death toll after China. US universities are canceling study abroad programs in Italy and urging students to return to the US amid soaring coronavirus cases. A flight attendant for Korean Air who worked several flights out of Los Angeles International Airport has been diagnosed with coronavirus. Cruise Ship Denied Entry to Jamaica and Cayman Islands Amid Coronavirus Fears Eighty-three individuals who had traveled to China being monitored for possible coronavirus infection in Nassau County, Long Island, NY In unprecedented move, Israelis advised to avoid all travel abroad over #coronavirus (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23coronavirus)

[Delight]

This first case that has been noted of covid-19 "in the community" indicates the risk to health care providers. Lots of nurses are over 50 which may mean they are at higher risk of morbidity. Here (https://www.ncsbn.org/workforce.htm) is info from one survey

https://www.ncsbn.org/images/RN-Age-Distribution-2013-2017.jpg

I feel very nervous for all the health care providers.
Another fact I read in the comments is that the patient originated apparently from an area near Travis air force base.


Newly diagnosed coronavirus patient being treated at UC Davis Medical Center
By Anne Ternus-Bellamy (https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/)

The UC Davis Medical Center is treating a patient who may be the first person in the country to have contracted the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) from community exposure.

The California Department of Public Health reported Wednesday the individual is a resident of Solano County who had no known exposure to the virus through travel or close contact with a known infected individual.

An email sent out Wednesday by two UC Davis officials said the patient arrived at the medical center in Sacramento last Wednesday but was only tested for the virus on Sunday despite a request made by med center officials that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conduct a test when the patient was admitted.

“Today the CDC confirmed the patient’s test was positive,” said the email from David Lubarsky, vice-chancellor of human health services, and Brad Simmons, interim CEO of UC Davis Medical Center.

“This is not the first COVID-19 patient we have treated, and because of the precautions we have had in place since this patient’s arrival, we believe there has been minimal potential for exposure here at UC Davis Medical Center,” the email said.

Nevertheless, a small number of medical center employees have been asked to stay home and monitor their temperatures.

Lubarsky and Simmons said the patient was transferred to UC Davis from “another Northern California hospital” on Wednesday, Feb 19.

“When the patient arrived, the patient had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” the email said.

“Since the patient arrived with a suspected viral infection, our care teams have been taking the proper infection prevention precautions during the patient’s stay.

“Upon admission, our team asked public health officials if this case could be COVID-19. We requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, since neither Sacramento County nor (the California Department of Public Health) is doing testing for coronavirus at this time. Since the patient did not fit the existing CDC criteria for COVID-19, a test was not immediately administered,” said the email, which added that, “UC Davis Health does not control the testing process.”

On Sunday, the CDC ordered COVID-19 testing of the patient and the patient was put on airborne precautions and strict contact precautions. The positive test results were announced on Wednesday.

“We are proud of our health care workers who have been working to care for this patient and are committed to saving this patient’s life,” the email said.

“Just as when a health care worker has a small chance of exposure to other illnesses, such as TB or pertussis, we are following standard CDC protocols for determination of exposure and surveillance. So, out of an abundance of caution, in order to assure the health and safety of our employees, we are asking a small number of employees to stay home and monitor their temperature.

“We are handling this in the same way we manage other diseases that require airborne precautions and monitoring. We are in constant communication with the state health department and the CDC and Sacramento County Public Health about the optimal management of this patient and possible employee exposures,” the email said.

“As we regularly handle patients with infectious diseases, we have robust infection control protocols in place to handle this patient and others with more frequently seen infectious diseases. In this case, we are dedicated to providing the best care possible for this patient and continuing to protect the health of our employees who care for them.”

The CDC announced on Wednesday that a case of novel coronavirus of “unknown origin” — without a relevant travel history or exposure to another known patient — had been diagnosed in a patient in Northern California but did not indicate what city or county the case was in.

In a press released issued Wednesday evening, the state Department of Public Health revealed the individual was from Solano County.

“The health risk from novel coronavirus to the general public remains low at this time,” the release said. “While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate. From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80 percent do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date. California is carefully assessing the situation as it evolves.”

“Keeping Californians safe and healthy is our number one priority,” said State Public Health Officer Dr. Sonia Angell.

“This has been an evolving situation, which California has been monitoring and responding to since COVID-19 cases first emerged in China last year. This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know.

“We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California. That’s why California has been working closely with federal and local partners, including health care providers and hospitals, since the outbreak was first reported in China — and we are already responding.”

This would be the first known instance of person-to-person transmission in the general public in the United States, according to Angell.

Previously known instances of person-to-person transmission in the United States include one instance in Chicago, Ill., and one in San Benito County. Both cases were after close, prolonged interaction with a family member who returned from Wuhan, China, and had tested positive for COVID-19, the disease caused by novel coronavirus. As of Wednesday, including this case, California has had seven travel-related cases, one close contact case and now one community transmission.

[onawah]

How to stage a fake epidemic (and brainwash billions of people)
by Jon Rappoport
February 26, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/26/how-to-stage-a-fake-epidemic-and-brainwash-billions-of-people/

"“When gigantic mega-corporations steal land from Third World people and then poison these people with horrific pollution, why isn’t it called murder? Is that too stark? Does it offend delicate sensibilities? Would you say that a drug gang who shoots up a bar and kills ten innocent bystanders is just carrying out ‘typical business practices in their field of endeavor’, and should therefore never be prosecuted in a court of law on a charge of homicide?” (The Underground, Jon Rappoport)

—This article assembles facts contained in my ongoing series on the “China epidemic.” To get the details, I recommend going back and reading all those articles (archive here).

If a group wants to stage a fake and frightening epidemic, how would they do it?

First of all, what reasons would they have to launch such an audacious plan?

On one level, they want to cover up human harm that is already occurring. They want to explain this harm with a false story. For example, suppose a combination of deadly corporate air and water and 5G* electronic pollution is making people sick and killing them. The parties responsible are surely not going to admit their crimes. No. Instead, they’re going to claim a new virus is causing this harm in the form of, say, lung disease. The virus just “emerged.” “It showed up out of nowhere. It crossed species from animals to humans.”

So…the first thing needed is a cluster of cases in one locale. A small group of people who have the same symptoms. This is easy to find. How about ordinary flu symptoms? Fever, fatigue, weakness, with an emphasis on lung complications [from the forms of pollution]. A few of these people are very ill. Two of them die. Now, the publicity/news machine swings into gear.

It’s called an “outbreak.” It isn’t, but that’s the story. “They were all ‘exposed to something’” at, say, a riverfront dock restaurant.

The news—shoveled directly into mainstream outlets—comes from elite public health agencies like the CDC and the World Health Organization (WHO).

It’s an OUTBREAK.

To use a technical term, this is all BULL****. Understand? People in the locale of the “new case cluster” are falling ill and dying as a result of the actual pollution-causes I listed above. But the news takes a different slant: “Researchers from WHO and CDC state that a ‘mystery illness’ has emerged in City X, and they are working to discover the virus…”

Who said it was a virus? Who made that unwarranted assumption? WHO and CDC. They always say it’s a virus.

At this point, suddenly, it’s news all over the planet, and most of the population is roped in, right from the get-go. Virus. Yes. I see. Which virus?

And shortly and miraculously, the answer comes: it’s VX-20. A new virus, never seen before, “which probably emerged from fish and crossed over into humans. One fisherman has already died.”

Voila. We have a new disease. VX-20.

Next question: did researchers actually find this virus? Did they?

Follow the next piece closely. There is sleight-of-hand involved.

One scenario: Researchers used what are called “indirect markers” to INFER that a new virus was there, in samples of tissue taken from several people in the original “cluster” of riverfront victims.

The researchers didn’t actually use basic procedures to purify the tissue sample from even one patient, and they didn’t see MANY identical viruses in an electron microscope photograph of the purified sample—if they took such a photograph at all. They certainly didn’t perform this complete test on several hundred emerging patients—they should have, but they didn’t. And most certainly, other researchers, including INDEPENDENT analysts, didn’t perform the necessary electron microscope test on hundreds of so-called “epidemic patients.”

So…the CDC and WHO researchers came up with a notion, an idea, an inference about a virus, through these indirect markers. And via a process of continuing inferences, they characterized the virus they never saw.

Scenario two: Let’s be generous and assume the researchers did bother to look at electron microscope photos, derived from only a few patients, not hundreds of patients, as they should have. What did they actually see in the photos? Maybe they saw a few particles that looked similar to each other, BUT quite possibly these virus-like particles were just passengers that ordinarily live in the body and cause no harm. However, the researchers jump up and down and say, THIS IS IT. THIS IS THE NEW KILLING VIRUS. AND WE WILL NOW ASSEMBLE ITS GENETIC SEQUENCE.

AND THEY DO.

So what? These researchers don’t bother to make the distinction between viruses that might do harm and those that do nothing. Why? Because they’re determined to find something. Anything. That’s their basic mission.

In both scenarios, they’ve fallen woefully short of proving that a new virus is responsible for making people ill.

But never mind—news outlets and governments are already on the march. THIS IS IT. A new epidemic. VX-20. A whole city is already locked down. Screeners are waving wands at passengers getting off planes. Some US talking head is saying there is now a rush to develop a vaccine. New cases of VX-20 are showing up in other cities and other countries. Boom.

Let’s examine that last part, about new cases and “spreading”— because this is where people REALLY fall for the con. They say: “Well, here is a city where there is no air or water or 5G pollution, and they’re discovering new cases, so how do you explain that?”

The new cases and the spread are based entirely on DIAGNOSTIC TESTS. Those test-results determine whether there is an “epidemic case” or a “spread.”

There are two main tests: antibody and PCR. In a nutshell, neither test is adequate to say HERE IS A NEW CASE. Both tests are unreliable and worthless. It’s more of the con. Both tests will claim to show “new cases” when they DON’T. They might show some antibodies or a few tiny fragments of what might possibly be a virus, but they show NOTHING that directly points to human illness. Relying on those tests would be on the order of laying down a bet on a game that isn’t even scheduled. It’s a farce.

Antibody tests, which purport to prove illness coming from a virus, are actually showing, at best, that the patient came in contact with a virus. Actually, before 1984, this was generally taken to mean the patient was in good shape. His immune system had defeated the germ. But then, for several no good reasons, the science was turned on its head. All of a sudden, a positive antibody test was taken to mean the patient was ill or would soon become ill. Nonsense. Farce.

The PCR test takes a tiny, tiny sample from a patient that might contain a virus, but the virus particle is far too small to comprehend. The PCR blows up that particle many times, so it can be analyzed. BUT the test says nothing about HOW MUCH virus, if any, is replicating in the patient’s body. And you need millions and millions of a virus replicating in the body to even begin talking about a cause of actual illness.

AND both tests rely on the unwarranted assumption that a virus actually causing illness—VX-20—was truly discovered in the first place.

Armed with these pathetic tests, public officials begin reporting a new epidemic case here and a new one there, and pretty soon 40 countries have new cases, and the public falls for it, hook, line, and sinker.

And THAT’S HOW you stage a fake epidemic. The rest is pure publicity and lockdown and theater.

Dangerous theater.

Toxic drugs and toxic vaccines will be brought on board to treat the epidemic that was never there.

The ACTUAL ONGOING causes of illness and dying will remain in place, shoved into the deep background. And THIS amounts to a capital crime. As in: murder. Remember that.

People will be told not to question the official line on the “epidemic.” This is called a clue. Why not ask questions? Because the answers might lead to a correct conclusion about the enormous con job.

Let me add a few comments.

The World Health Organization itself states that every year, there are millions of cases of ordinary flu around the world, and several hundred thousand deaths. This isn’t “coronavirus.” But the flu sufferers can easily be called “new epidemic cases.” Ordinary flu can be statistically “imported” and called “coronavirus.”

Then there is the medical treatment imposed on people who are told they are “coronavirus cases.” I’m talking about highly toxic antiviral drugs, which have the ability to stop natural reproduction of cells in the body. Particularly when such people already have weakened immune systems, or organ-function problems, the results can be catastrophic. The patients can die. Of course, if they do, they will be called “deaths from the epidemic.”

Finally, there is something else you may have heard of. I mentioned it a few paragraphs ago: murder. Do you really think the people who are consciously launching a fake epidemic, with all its consequences—including covering up and never remedying ongoing real causes of dying and death—would stop short of staging a few spectacular incidents of dying and death, in order to make a splash and convince the public that the virus is really a killer? Are you KIDDING? For example, suddenly, out of the blue, a few friends, previously healthy, in a small town, fall ill, and a few days later, they’re dead. Health officials state they were “positive for the virus.” “It came on quickly.” Are tests run to detect an intentional covert act of direct poisoning? Of course not. Media blare this horrible story all over the world: “THE VIRUS IS ON THE MOVE.” Same thing happens to a previously healthy family in Country X. They fall ill and die. And then a group of travelers on a mountain in Country Y become ill and die. Murder. However, the cover story is: “THE VIRUS KNOWS NO BOUNDS. IT CAN COME ON ANYWHERE, AT ANY TIME.” THESE EVENTS OF DEATH “CAN ONLY BE EXPLAINED BY THE VIRUS.” That’s right, when the audience is brainwashed and completely naïve.

“But…but how could anyone actually commit premediated murder of innocent people, in order to convince the public that a virus is spreading in unlikely places?”

As I mentioned, such controllers are ALREADY guilty of murder, because they’re hiding the actual ongoing causes of death with the cover story of a virus. This sort of cover-up of crime has been happening, around the world, for a long, long time. To cite just two instances, look at parts of Africa and Haiti, where the “HIV story” has been promoted and funded, wall to wall, in order to conceal intentionally created and sustained poverty, stolen farm land, and corporate takeovers involving massive poisonous industrial pollution.

When you go back in history—as I have—you’ll realize that fake epidemics are standard operating procedure. SARS, Swine Flu, West Nile, Zika, etc. I’ve written about every one of these phonies in detail…

(*) Concerning 5G technology and China, I recommend watching Dana Ashlie’s video, “The BEST NEWS re CΟRΟNΑ VΙrus you’ve heard all month! Kinda."
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[ExomatrixTV]

San Francisco Declares EMERGENCY Over Coronavirus, CDC Says Its Coming, People FIGHTING Over Food!
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[Philippe]

Rappoport says :
"Finally, there is something else you may have heard of. I mentioned it a few paragraphs ago: murder. Do you really think the people who are consciously launching a fake epidemic, with all its consequences—including covering up and never remedying ongoing real causes of dying and death—would stop short of staging a few spectacular incidents of dying and death, in order to make a splash and convince the public that the virus is really a killer? Are you KIDDING? For example, suddenly, out of the blue, a few friends, previously healthy, in a small town, fall ill, and a few days later, they’re dead. Health officials state they were “positive for the virus.” “It came on quickly.” Are tests run to detect an intentional covert act of direct poisoning? Of course not. Media blare this horrible story all over the world: “THE VIRUS IS ON THE MOVE.” Same thing happens to a previously healthy family in Country X. They fall ill and die. And then a group of travelers on a mountain in Country Y become ill and die. Murder. However, the cover story is: “THE VIRUS KNOWS NO BOUNDS. IT CAN COME ON ANYWHERE, AT ANY TIME.” THESE EVENTS OF DEATH “CAN ONLY BE EXPLAINED BY THE VIRUS.” That’s right, when the audience is brainwashed and completely naïve."

Do we have to believe that all the medical personnel in Wuhan, including chiefs of hospital, died not from exposure to sick people but because they were murdered ?
Did they die from an overexposure to 5G? Technically speaking we know now that it is possible to target individuals and probably kill them from the distance. It seems so very far fetched but nothing can be excluded.

Steve Bannon wants to send thousands of American doctors and nurses to save China from collapsing and to replace the sick and death Chinese medical personnel. They better be extremely well protected.

[Bill Ryan]

The Truth About the Coronavirus - SPREADS!

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Stefan Molyneux says at 18:37: "I said from the very beginning this was the real deal."

Yes, me too. This is real, and something quite serious. At the very least, in terms of severe social and economic disruption. If city-wide quarantines come to the US, all hell will break loose. Remember, the Chinese citizens in Hubei province don't have guns.

Rappoport is wrong in Wolf-Wolfing this and saying it's just pollution and/or 5G, maybe some sort of false flag event initiated by the Chinese. Or, maybe all about vaccinations. Vaccinations won't work if the thing is mutating, which might already be the case. All my Spidey Senses tell me there's something much bigger at play here.

I think the wolf is large, and real. I respect Rappoport a very great deal, but I do feel I have to say he's behind the curve with what's happening here.

[Sophocles]

On a press conference this morning it was said that 50 people are now being voluntarily quarantined in their homes (in Oslo) awaiting test results.

The Norwegian Health Directorate are planning for a scenario where 1 out of 4 citizens gets infected^ (in a population of 5,3 millions).

In total there are 400–500 respiratory bed posts in Norway (all of wich are in use today) but they say this number can double or triple if there’s an emergency.

At the same time there will most definitily be a need for more nurses with intensive care training.

Someone already suggested that Norway should start producing face masks as hospitals have been ordered to rationalize equipment due to the upcoming or present scarcity.


PS! Health director Bjørn Guldvog said yesterday that one of the options for dealing with this virus could be to shut off or isolate cities and city parts should it come to that.^^


Links (in Norwegian):

^Helsedirektoratet: – Opp mot 25 prosent av befolkningen kan bli smittet (https://www.nrk.no/norge/helsedirektoratet_-_-opp-mot-25-prosent-av-befolkningen-kan-bli-smittet-1.14920455)

^^Corona-tiltak: Helsedirektøren åpner for å sperre byer og bydeler (https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/70wAaK/corona-tiltak-helsedirektoeren-aapner-for-aa-sperre-byer-og-bydeler)

[spade]

That 100% death rate amongst critical cases is wrong. In Singapore, there were quite a lot of critical cases, but all of them recovered - however some had to use artificial lungs (which is severe)

[thepainterdoug]

Bill , I agree there is something big here, and the contrary evidence and argument is not convincing me, it just doesn't add up. I have a friend arguing with me, its just a flu, kills less than the normal flu, and giving me those yearly flu statistics. well in my mind that metric doesn't fit here.
why the shutting down cities, halting travel, crashing the market, quarantine, why the press conference, the asking for billions, to stop a virus that only kills a few people ? no one is reporting standard influenza numbers from various countries . only for this virus. what am i missing?
well Ill do my best to take care of myself and family and keep following the posts here.

[Pam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_0iw62a6PQ&feature=youtu.beWell, I'd give that press conference about 2/10. Maybe 1.5. Maybe not even that. :)

I'll be very interested to read the analyses, both in the mainstream and in the alt media. (I'll be particularly interested in what Alex Jones says.)

His response was exactly what I feared. This is where we are going to see the negative aspects of his narcissism. He is more concerned about the stock market and how that will reflect on him and his re election. He sees comments about the potential danger of the virus as a personal affront to his presidency and what he wants, apparently without even considering the real implications. He can't imagine anything that is not about him. Anyone that goes against him is at fault and out of the collective and I imagine that is how he looks at the virus. I doubt that he can even understand his remarks may have put millions in severe danger because they promote complacency. All he sees is how it effects his presidency. I am not faulting him for this, it's simply the way he is.

[Pam]

The Economic Cataclysm Ahead


Thu, 02/27/2020 - 05:00

Authored by Charles Hugh Smith via OfTwoMinds blog,



The economic storm hasn't passed; the false calm is only the eye of the financial hurricane.

To understand the economic cataclysm ahead, do the math. Those expecting the Covid-19 pandemic to leave the U.S. economy untouched are implicitly making these preposterously unlikely claims:

1. China will resume full pre-pandemic production and shipping within the next two weeks.

2. Chinese consumers will resume borrowing and spending at pre-pandemic rates in a few weeks.

3. Every factory and every worker in China will resume full pre-pandemic production without any permanent closures or disruptions.

4. Corporate America's just-in-time inventories will magically expand to cover weeks or months of supply chain disruption.

5. Not a single one of the thousands of people who flew direct from Wuhan to the U.S. in January is an asymptomatic carrier of the coronavirus who escaped detection at the airport.

6. Not a single one of the thousands of people who flew from China to the U.S. in February is an asymptomatic carrier of the coronavirus.

7. Not a single one of the thousands of people who are in self-quarantine broke the quarantine to go to Safeway for milk and eggs.

8. Not a single person who came down with Covid-19 after arriving in the U.S. feared being deported so they did not go to a hospital and are therefore unknown to authorities.

9. Even though U.S. officials have only tested a relative handful of the thousands of people who came from Covid-19 hotspots in China, they caught every single asymptomatic carrier.

10. Not a single asymptomatic carrier caught a flight from China to Southeast Asia and then promptly boarded a flight for the U.S.

I could go on but you get the picture: an extremely contagious pathogen that is spread by carriers who don't know they have the virus to people who then infect others in a rapidly expanding circle has been completely controlled by U.S. authorities who haven't tested or even tracked tens of thousands of potential carriers in the U.S.

These same authorities are quick to claim the risk of Covid-19 spreading in the U.S. is low even as the 14 infected people they put on a plane ended up infecting 25 passengers on the flight. These same authorities tried to transfer quarantined people to a rundown facility in Costa Mesa CA that was not suitable for quarantine, forcing the city to file a lawsuit to stop the transfer.

Do these actions instill unwavering confidence in the official U.S. response? You must be joking.

Do the math, people. The coronavirus is already in the U.S. but authorities have no way to track it due to its spread by asymptomatic carriers. People who don't even know they have the virus are flying to intermediate airports outside China and then catching flights to the U.S.

None of the known characteristics of the virus support the confidence being projected by authorities. The tests are not reliable, few are being tested, carriers can't be detected because they don't have any symptoms, the virus is highly contagious, thousands of potential carriers continue to arrive in the U.S., etc. etc. etc.

The network of global travel remains intact. Removing a few nodes (Wuhan, etc.) does not reduce the entire network's connectedness that enables the rapid and invisible spread of the virus.

Second, what authorities call over-reaction is simply prudent risk management. As I noted yesterday in How Many Cases of Covid-19 Will It Take For You to Decide Not to Frequent Public Places?, when an abstract pandemic becomes real, shelves are emptied and streets are deserted.

It doesn't take thousands of cases to trigger a dramatic reduction in the willingness to mix with crowds of strangers. A relative handful of cases is enough to be consequential.

Many of the new jobs created in the U.S. economy over the past decade are in the food and beverage services sector, the sector that is immediately impacted when people decide to lower their risk by staying home rather than going out to crowded restaurants, theaters, bars, etc.

Many of these establishments are hanging on by a thread due to soaring rents, taxes, fees, healthcare and wages. Many of the employees are also hanging on by a thread, only making rent if they collect big tips.

Central banks can borrow money into existence but they can't replace lost income. A significant percentage of America's food and beverage establishments are financially precarious, and their exhausted owners are burned out by the stresses of keeping their business afloat as costs continue rising. The initial financial hit as people reduce their public exposure will be more than enough to cause many to close their doors forever.

As small businesses fold, local tax revenues crater, triggering fiscal crises in local government budgets dependent on ever-higher tax and fee revenues.

A significant percentage of America's borrowers are financially precarious, one paycheck or unexpected expense away from defaulting on student loans, subprime auto loans, credit card payments, etc.

A significant percentage of America's corporations are financially precarious, dependent on expanding debt and rising cash flow to service their expanding debt load. Any hit to their revenues will trigger defaults that will then unleash second-order effects in the global financial system.

The global economy is so dependent on speculative euphoria, leverage and debt that any external shock will tip it over the cliff. The U.S. economy is far more precarious than advertised as well.

The economic storm hasn't passed; the false calm is only the eye of the financial hurricane.


https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/economic-cataclysm-ahead

[Tintin]

Pulled from the Avalon Twitter feed, and if true, an alarming piece of news from Iran

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At the time of writing I haven't seen it hitting the mainstream news in the UK

[Agape]

I wonder if the virus can be also passed around with money. Perhaps they don’t use lots of paper money these days in Wuhan but credit cards,I doubt that though.

I know this may sound purely anecdotal but after washing and cleaning just about everything today( we do come in contact with lots of unsuspectful strangers here, out of nowhere), the last forgotten place was a purse(not much in) but the notes smelled so badly I had to stop myself short of washing them too(bit of laughter allowance):)

Is it not why we say “dirty money”.

Eyes rolling out of sockets, I wish them the WHO good luck and good hearts.


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[onawah]

Do We Need $2.5 BILLION for Coronavirus Vaccine? What Happened to the $2 BILLION Spent on the Zika Vaccine?https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/do-we-need-2-5-billion-for-coronavirus-vaccine-what-happened-to-the-2-billion-spent-on-the-zika-vaccine/
February 27, 2020

Coronavirus Part III:
by David Brownstein, M.D.
DrBrowntein.com

"The White House is asking Congress for AT LEAST (oy vey) $2.5 billion in emergency funds, in part, to develop a vaccine for the Coronavirus outbreak. (1)

I have written two recent blog posts about coronavirus which you can find on my homepage (www.drbrownstein.com). Before we give any governmental agency AT LEAST $2.5 billion dollars we should know how it is going to be spent.

Recall the Zika scare from 2016. At that time we were being told by the US governmental agencies (FDA, CDC, and HHS) that somehow a relatively benign virus that has been around for nearly 100 years was suddenly causing birth defects in the form of small-headed babies.

There were headlines in the major papers and fear mongering stories that Zika would do the same in the US. My first article about Zika can be found here: https://www.drbrownstein.com/zika-schmika-how-to-waste-2000000000/.

The title of the article says it all: “Zika Schmika How to Waste $2,000,000,000.” I lamented that President Obama asked Congress for $2 billion dollars to research the “new” problem with Zika. I subsequently wrote three other blog posts stating that Zika would not be a problem in the US and was not the cause of the small-headed babies.

I thought giving the CDC $2 billion dollars was a waste of money. Congress ended up giving the CDC over $1 billion dollars to develop a Zika vaccine. My fourth Zika post was titled, “Where is our billion dollars?”

Here we are 4 years later and…no Zika vaccine and no more reports of small-headed Zika infections. The reason there are no more reports is because Zika did not cause the problem in the first place. Zika is still occurring around the world and we are still surviving—without an epidemic of small-headed babies.

But, we are $1 billion dollars poorer. And, we still have no Zika vaccine.

So, should we give the US government AT LEAST $2.5 billion to make a vaccine against COVID-19 (the coronavirus strain currently active)?

Right now, the answer should be absolutely not. We simply do not know how deadly this virus is. The information out of China simply cannot be trusted.

The CDC should be the last governmental organization trusted with AT LEAST $2.5 billion dollars to study COVID-19. The CDC has consistently lied and hid data that shows our kids are suffering adverse effects from receiving too many vaccines.

The CDC is the same organization that refuses to complete a study comparing children fully vaccinated against those unvaccinated. That study would provide the final answer to whether too many vaccines are harming our children. The CDC was tasked with that study decades ago and has the available data available, and yet…we still have no study.

If the Government snares another AT LEAST $2.5 billion from us to study COVID-19, it should be earmarked for treating and quarantining the sick. I say use the money and give the infected COVID-19 patients treatment with antiviral therapies that actually work such as intravenous infusions of hydrogen peroxide, ozone, and vitamin C. That would be a good use of our money. Please don’t use the money for lousy antiviral drugs like Tamiflu.

And, most importantly, keep the CDC away from our pockets.

One last thing, someone (President Trump!) needs to force the CDC to complete a study comparing fully vaccinated children to unvaccinated children."

DrB

Read the full article at DrBrownstein.com

See Also:

Should the CDC Oversee Vaccine Safety When They Purchase Over $5 Billion of Vaccines from Big Pharma?
References
(1) https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-asking-congress-for-2-5-billion-to-fight-coronavirus/ar-BB10lhW6

[Bill Ryan]

Pulled from the Avalon Twitter feed, and if true, an alarming piece of news from Iran

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At the time of writing I haven't seen it hitting the mainstream news in the UKYes, it was reported here in CNN's running update feed (https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-27-20-intl-hnk/index.html) two hours ago. The report simply said:
One of the country’s top clerics, Hadi Khosroshahi, died on Thursday after he contracted the sickness.

[Sarah Rainsong]

I was able to listen to the Steve Bannon interview yesterday. He makes some very good points, and I agree with his assessment of the CCP. For the purpose of helping the Chinese people and holding the CCP accountable, I think he's done a great job. But the whole interview left a bad taste in my mouth. I’ve been trying to figure out why.

I think it’s because when people start invoking Biblical references and saying things like "they should burn in hell," I am reminded of my personal experiences where every single person I’ve known of who has done that has this mind-frame that their [insert whatever: country, religion, organization, themselves!] is some bastion of virtuosity. And that’s never the case.

So when he rants about the horrible things the CCP has done and their horrible reputation for biowarfare, I wonder if he's taken a good long look at the crimes against humanity that the US has committed, the biowarfare that we have engaged in...against our own people...just like the CCP?

In regards to this virus, are we really doing a lot better job here in the US? Officials are ignoring reality and hiding numbers. Investigative reporters are either not investigating or not being allowed to report it. Quite simply, the people in charge are not doing their jobs. The little guys are struggling to carry the burden themselves while avoiding being locked up for treason.

I almost didn’t post this because while I want our own problems fixed, and that means we have to face them, it does NOT excuse the CCP who does need to be called out and stopped for their crimes!

The other thing that's bothering me is that I think he's missing a bigger picture on the origins of this virus.

Why would a regime of lying gangsters tell the world about their one and only biolab? I find it difficult to believe that the Wuhan lab is the only lab in all of China that researches bioweaponry. We already know that the virus did not originate in the seafood market. So are we to jump at the next simple answer without any evidence to back it up? The nearby lab just seems too convenient to me.

When it comes to global crises, when has the most repeated answer actually been the correct one? In laying the blame solely on China, I fear that those who hold a greater share of responsibility will be allowed to continue without restraint.

And as far as shares of responsibility go, it would be good to remember that greater liability is often found not with who started something, but with who could have stopped it.

[Bill Ryan]

[Trump's] response was exactly what I feared. This is where we are going to see the negative aspects of his narcissism. He is more concerned about the stock market and how that will reflect on him and his re election. He sees comments about the potential danger of the virus as a personal affront to his presidency and what he wants, apparently without even considering the real implications. He can't imagine anything that is not about him. Anyone that goes against him is at fault and out of the collective and I imagine that is how he looks at the virus. I doubt that he can even understand his remarks may have put millions in severe danger because they promote complacency. All he sees is how it effects his presidency. I am not faulting him for this, it's simply the way he is.

Here's Mike Adams' report about this. We can probably assume Alex Jones fully agrees. Both, of course, are diehard Trump supporters. But it didn't go well.


https://naturalnews.com/2020-02-26-trump-insists-america-very-very-ready-for-any-coronavirus-pandemic.html

Trump insists America "very, very ready" for any coronavirus pandemic, fails to mention virtually NO ONE being tested in America... the "Trump TRAP" is now set by the CDC

In a coronavirus press briefing at the White House earlier today, President Trump declared America was ready for the coronavirus, saying, “We’re very, very ready for this, for anything, whether it’s going to be a breakout of larger proportions or whether we’re at that very low level, and we want to keep it that way.”

This statement appears to be absurd, given that virtually no tests for the coronavirus are being conducted in the United States (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-23-fewer-than-600-people-tested-for-coronavirus-in-the-entire-united-states-cdc.html), and the CDC’s diagnostic test kits sent to state labs on Feb. 5th turned out to be faulty… and the CDC still hasn’t figure out how to replace the faulty kits with anything that functions.

While the rest of the world is rapidly testing thousands of people for the coronavirus — Italy, South Korea, Iran, Japan, Singapore and even Thailand — the United States has so far tested only 445 people in total, since day one, according to the latest numbers from the CDC: (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html)

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This means that Trump is saying America is ready for the pandemic even when America can’t even test for the virus.

How can America be “very, very ready” for a pandemic if we aren’t even testing thousands of people for the virus?

As we have exhaustively reported over the last several days (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-25-cdc-delays-and-excuses-laboratory-association-fda-coronavirus-tests.html), there are virtually ZERO tests for coronavirus being conducted by any U.S. state. Forty-seven out of fifty states are conducting no tests whatsoever, as CNBC recently reported (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/21/only-three-us-states-can-test-for-coronavirus-says-public-lab-group.html), and the other three states are mostly sending samples to the CDC, which means those numbers are already encompassed by the CDC’s “445” number.

By the way, Pandemic.news will soon be publishing state-by-state numbers showing how many people are being tested, self-quarantined and confirmed as infected in each U.S. state. Watch for this soon on Pandemic.news (http://pandemic.news/).

The Trump administration is being advised on all this by Dr. Anthony Fauci of the NIH, an individual whose department oversees both vaccine research and U.S. biological weapons research being funded by the NIH. In effect, President Trump is being advised by the very person who helped funnel taxpayer funds to the bioengineered weapon — covid-19 coronavirus — which was bought from a U.S. university and taken to a lab in China, then released into the public where it quickly spread into a global pandemic, as Prof. Frances Boyle has recently explained in several bombshell interviews (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-24-prof-francis-boyle-13000-death-scientists-hard-at-work-destroying-humanity.html).

The NIH funded this bioweapons research from the very beginning, and it’s Dr. Fauci who oversees much of that funding. Why is the same person who helped create this biological weapons monster now advising President Trump on how to stop it with vaccines? Refer to the many interviews with Prof. Frances Boyle (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-20-full-transcript-smoking-gun-interview-prof-frances-boyle-coronavirus-bioweapons.html) for more details on this crucial point for humanity. Dr. Fauci is the fox in the hen house, and he’s now converted Trump to a pro-vaccine president.

President Trump now touting vaccines as the answer, fails to realize the vaccines might be more dangerous than the coronavirus

“The vaccine is coming along well and we think this is something we can develop fairly rapidly, a vaccine for the future,” Trump said today, echoing the propaganda of Fauci, the NIH and the very same vaccine industry that served as a cover for the bioweapons research that led to this entire fiasco in the first place.

So now President Trump is essentially providing cover (and funding) for the very same “death science” researchers who got us into this mess. They promise to save us with a vaccine, but we wouldn’t be threatened at all if they never genetically engineered this biological weapon in the first place.

As things look right now, millions of human beings will be killed by this virus over the next year or two… possibly a whole lot more. But the greed of the NIH and the “death science” researchers knows no bounds. Even if hundreds of millions of human beings are killed, the NIH will keep funneling money into bioweapons research. So far, the NIH has provided nearly $700 million into coronavirus research (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-23-nih-spent-700-million-to-develop-coronavirus-vaccines.html), both for vaccines and bioweapons (which are actually the same thing, as one provides political cover for the other).

Fauci is now indoctrinating Trump with lies about vaccines, influenza and pandemics

Trump is now repeating the same propaganda Fauci has been spouting, insisting that the flu kills more people than the coronavirus, so the coronavirus pandemic is no big deal. This claim is, of course, a fallacy. The only reason the coronavirus hasn’t yet killed more people than the flu is because it has only begun to spread around the world. The infections and deaths we’ve seen so far from the coronavirus are only a hint of the global pandemic fallout that’s yet to come (which may take years to fully play out).

The mortality rate from the coronavirus is, by some estimates, up to 20 times higher than that of the seasonal flu. And while the seasonal flu kills roughly 35,000 Americans a year, if the coronavirus infects just 50% of the U.S. population and has a very low mortality rate of just 2%, it will kill 3.3 million Americans, dwarfing the number of people killed by the flu.

If it infects 50% of the world population, the number of global deaths will exceed 72 million, even at just a 2% mortality rate.

To claim that the coronavirus isn’t dangerous because it hasn’t yet killed as many people as the flu is disingenuous and deceptive, bordering on malicious disinformation to mislead the public. And Trump got that line directly from Dr. Fauci, who is peddling these lies like Wormtongue from Lord of the Rings.

Just as we’ve warned, Trump is being maliciously misled on the coronavirus by the very same evil people who had a hand in creating it.

Hey, America: Shut up, buy more stocks, take your vaccine shots and trust the government… we’re here to help!

With each passing day of this coronavirus fiasco, President Trump’s chances of losing the White House this November are rapidly expanding (much to the delight of the Democrats). By doing nothing and trusting the very same CDC and NIH that mostly consists of “never-Trumpers,” President Trump is allowing these agencies to set a dangerous trap that will ultimately be sprung by the media to blame Trump for an uncontrolled outbreak in the USA… an outbreak that has already silently begun.

And Trump is falling for it, hook, line and sinker.

Trump says, “We’ve stopped non US citizens from China,” but the USA hasn’t stopped flights from South Korea, Italy or Japan.

Trump says, “We’re screening people at a very high level,” but fails to realize that the coronavirus spreads in stealth mode, during its asymptomatic incubation period that can’t be detected by any airport screening whatsoever.

Trump says, “The USA is rated No. 1 at being prepared,” but fails to realize the USA is currently last place in the world when it comes to having functioning diagnostic test kits. The USA, in fact, is the only country in the world (other than North Korea) that appears to be conducting virtually zero testing for the coronavirus.

Any person claiming the USA is prepared for an outbreak for a virus that U.S. CDC officials can’t even detect on any large scale is kidding themselves. You can’t stop a virus if you aren’t testing for it, and yet somehow, both President Trump and Rush Limbaugh seem to be oblivious to the fact that the CDC is testing virtually no one.

There are already thousands of infections in the United States, and Trump is telling the public it’s almost zero… this won’t end well once legitimate lab testing begins

This is going to be very, very bad for President Trump. In fact, there’s no question the CDC is setting a trap to shift blame to Trump once the outbreak in the United States is finally documented by active lab testing (which has been delayed by the CDC). This will happen shortly after labs across America are given permission by the FDA to begin testing. Currently, both the CDC and the FDA are prohibiting labs across the entire country from conducting such tests (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-25-cdc-delays-and-excuses-laboratory-association-fda-coronavirus-tests.html). It’s not an accident, of course. This is all by design.

My best estimate is that right now, there are thousands of coronavirus-infected people in the United States, and almost none of them are being tested.

A DHS source told me there were 989 confirmed infections over one week ago, mostly along the West Coast. Doubling every 3.5 days, that number is already over 4,000.

An outbreak is starting to emerge in San Francisco, and the Mayor just declared a state of emergency there

We just got news from the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/02/26/f889693a-580e-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html) earlier this evening that a new coronavirus infection has been confirmed in Northern California, afflicting a person who did not travel to China and had no known contact with any other infected person. The CDC is deliberately withholding the county in which this cases has been confirmed, meaning it’s almost certainly in San Francisco. The non-China history of this person means there is sustained, human-to-human transmission taking place in San Francisco right now, which is exactly why the Mayor, London Breed, declared a state of emergency yesterday.

Orange County declared a state of emergency today (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-26-coronavirus-orange-county-declares-state-of-emergency-los-angeles-flight-attendant-tests-positive.html), by the way, even while claiming there are zero infections in Orange County.

Does anyone think that’s a coincidence? Of course it isn’t. Breed already knows San Francisco is a coronavirus hub, and since California is testing zero people for the virus, this thing is going to spread at the full R0 value of around 6.6, doubling perhaps every 3 days or so, exploding out of control while the CDC withholds testing kits and the FDA withholds approval for local labs to conduct any testing on their own.

By the time test kits are approved or provided, we might already be looking at 10,000 infections in San Francisco alone.

And guess who will get the blame? Not Nancy Pelosi. It will be Donald J. Trump. And Sen. Chuck Schumer will declare that Trump withheld funds, leading to mass infections and deaths in San Fran. You can see the script unfolding almost automatically.

Sadly, Trump walked right into the Trump trap, because he listened to the poisonous people who are setting him up to take the fall… the very same people who are happily sacrificing potentially millions of American lives in their effort to engineer a devastating crisis that can achieve a political advantage for the Democrats.

[The Moss Trooper]

Pulled from the Avalon Twitter feed, and if true, an alarming piece of news from Iran

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At the time of writing I haven't seen it hitting the mainstream news in the UKYes, it was reported here in CNN's running update feed (https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-27-20-intl-hnk/index.html) two hours ago. The report simply said:
One of the country’s top clerics, Hadi Khosroshahi, died on Thursday after he contracted the sickness.


Also linked here:

Iran's vice president and spokeswoman for 1979 hostage-takers is diagnosed with coronavirus a day after sitting with President Rouhani, as virus kills Regime's former Vatican ambassador.


Iranian spokeswoman for the 1979 hostage crisis is diagnosed with coronavirus
Masoumeh Ebtekar, who is also a vice president, has reportedly been infected
She was pictured near President Hassan Rouhani during Iranian cabinet meeting
It also emerged today Iran's former ambassador to the Vatican died of the virus
Ebtekar spoke for the Iranian students who took 52 hostages at the US embassy


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/breaking_news/article-8051765/Irans-vice-president-spokeswoman-1979-hostage-takers-infected-coronavirus.html

Has Iran been an intentional target? Or, just swept-up in an out-of-control-on-purpose pandemic?


Over at Jim Stone's site:


I WAS RIGHT: China is under-reporting Coronavirus cases by at least 50X

Epoch Times got ahold of official government documents, and discovered the Chinese goverment is tweaking the numbers by a factor of up to 52X in some cases. That's not 52 percent, that's 52X.

Explaining the linked article:

The Epoch times got ahold of numerous documents from various regions, all of them showing under-reporting of actual numbers. The lowest cases of under-reporting were 2X and everything in between, up to 52X in various parts of China.
This proves I was right all along. It explains why they brought in portable incinerators. They'd get one set of numbers and report something totally different to the World Health Organization, they kept 2 sets of books.

I am going to say the obvious: Results on the ground prove they are lying by MORE THAN 52X in Hubei province. There's obviously 7 digit dead there. Everyone who managed to get word out has stated they are not even able to get to half of the actual dead to even document them to begin with. They are just sitting here and there, rotting.

I bet there's a third set of books, which is an estimate of reality they did not directly count.

There has to be. They could not keep all those incinerators going even if the actual numbers were 52X. They are now busted in a massive lie in a way that they can't back out of, we know they are lying and the only question therefore is, how big is the lie, really?


He has had some very interesting commentary since this CoVid-19 outbreak started, as usual with Jim though, you've gotta take what you think applies and discard that which doesn't 'resonate'. Having read his spiel I have to say that he has been on point with a lot of his research. Check it out: http://82.221.129.208/.vr0.html


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[Pam]

[Trump's] response was exactly what I feared. This is where we are going to see the negative aspects of his narcissism. He is more concerned about the stock market and how that will reflect on him and his re election. He sees comments about the potential danger of the virus as a personal affront to his presidency and what he wants, apparently without even considering the real implications. He can't imagine anything that is not about him. Anyone that goes against him is at fault and out of the collective and I imagine that is how he looks at the virus. I doubt that he can even understand his remarks may have put millions in severe danger because they promote complacency. All he sees is how it effects his presidency. I am not faulting him for this, it's simply the way he is.

Here's Mike Adams' report about this. We can probably assume Alex Jones fully agrees. Both, of course, are diehard Trump supporters. But it didn't go well.


https://naturalnews.com/2020-02-26-trump-insists-america-very-very-ready-for-any-coronavirus-pandemic.html

Trump insists America "very, very ready" for any coronavirus pandemic, fails to mention virtually NO ONE being tested in America... the "Trump TRAP" is now set by the CDC

In a coronavirus press briefing at the White House earlier today, President Trump declared America was ready for the coronavirus, saying, “We’re very, very ready for this, for anything, whether it’s going to be a breakout of larger proportions or whether we’re at that very low level, and we want to keep it that way.”

This statement appears to be absurd, given that virtually no tests for the coronavirus are being conducted in the United States (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-23-fewer-than-600-people-tested-for-coronavirus-in-the-entire-united-states-cdc.html), and the CDC’s diagnostic test kits sent to state labs on Feb. 5th turned out to be faulty… and the CDC still hasn’t figure out how to replace the faulty kits with anything that functions.

While the rest of the world is rapidly testing thousands of people for the coronavirus — Italy, South Korea, Iran, Japan, Singapore and even Thailand — the United States has so far tested only 445 people in total, since day one, according to the latest numbers from the CDC: (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-in-us.html)

https://www.naturalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/CDC-coronavirus-testing-445-2020-02-26.png

This means that Trump is saying America is ready for the pandemic even when America can’t even test for the virus.

How can America be “very, very ready” for a pandemic if we aren’t even testing thousands of people for the virus?

As we have exhaustively reported over the last several days (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-25-cdc-delays-and-excuses-laboratory-association-fda-coronavirus-tests.html), there are virtually ZERO tests for coronavirus being conducted by any U.S. state. Forty-seven out of fifty states are conducting no tests whatsoever, as CNBC recently reported (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/21/only-three-us-states-can-test-for-coronavirus-says-public-lab-group.html), and the other three states are mostly sending samples to the CDC, which means those numbers are already encompassed by the CDC’s “445” number.

By the way, Pandemic.news will soon be publishing state-by-state numbers showing how many people are being tested, self-quarantined and confirmed as infected in each U.S. state. Watch for this soon on Pandemic.news (http://pandemic.news/).

The Trump administration is being advised on all this by Dr. Anthony Fauci of the NIH, an individual whose department oversees both vaccine research and U.S. biological weapons research being funded by the NIH. In effect, President Trump is being advised by the very person who helped funnel taxpayer funds to the bioengineered weapon — covid-19 coronavirus — which was bought from a U.S. university and taken to a lab in China, then released into the public where it quickly spread into a global pandemic, as Prof. Frances Boyle has recently explained in several bombshell interviews (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-24-prof-francis-boyle-13000-death-scientists-hard-at-work-destroying-humanity.html).

The NIH funded this bioweapons research from the very beginning, and it’s Dr. Fauci who oversees much of that funding. Why is the same person who helped create this biological weapons monster now advising President Trump on how to stop it with vaccines? Refer to the many interviews with Prof. Frances Boyle (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-20-full-transcript-smoking-gun-interview-prof-frances-boyle-coronavirus-bioweapons.html) for more details on this crucial point for humanity. Dr. Fauci is the fox in the hen house, and he’s now converted Trump to a pro-vaccine president.

President Trump now touting vaccines as the answer, fails to realize the vaccines might be more dangerous than the coronavirus

“The vaccine is coming along well and we think this is something we can develop fairly rapidly, a vaccine for the future,” Trump said today, echoing the propaganda of Fauci, the NIH and the very same vaccine industry that served as a cover for the bioweapons research that led to this entire fiasco in the first place.

So now President Trump is essentially providing cover (and funding) for the very same “death science” researchers who got us into this mess. They promise to save us with a vaccine, but we wouldn’t be threatened at all if they never genetically engineered this biological weapon in the first place.

As things look right now, millions of human beings will be killed by this virus over the next year or two… possibly a whole lot more. But the greed of the NIH and the “death science” researchers knows no bounds. Even if hundreds of millions of human beings are killed, the NIH will keep funneling money into bioweapons research. So far, the NIH has provided nearly $700 million into coronavirus research (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-23-nih-spent-700-million-to-develop-coronavirus-vaccines.html), both for vaccines and bioweapons (which are actually the same thing, as one provides political cover for the other).

Fauci is now indoctrinating Trump with lies about vaccines, influenza and pandemics

Trump is now repeating the same propaganda Fauci has been spouting, insisting that the flu kills more people than the coronavirus, so the coronavirus pandemic is no big deal. This claim is, of course, a fallacy. The only reason the coronavirus hasn’t yet killed more people than the flu is because it has only begun to spread around the world. The infections and deaths we’ve seen so far from the coronavirus are only a hint of the global pandemic fallout that’s yet to come (which may take years to fully play out).

The mortality rate from the coronavirus is, by some estimates, up to 20 times higher than that of the seasonal flu. And while the seasonal flu kills roughly 35,000 Americans a year, if the coronavirus infects just 50% of the U.S. population and has a very low mortality rate of just 2%, it will kill 3.3 million Americans, dwarfing the number of people killed by the flu.

If it infects 50% of the world population, the number of global deaths will exceed 72 million, even at just a 2% mortality rate.

To claim that the coronavirus isn’t dangerous because it hasn’t yet killed as many people as the flu is disingenuous and deceptive, bordering on malicious disinformation to mislead the public. And Trump got that line directly from Dr. Fauci, who is peddling these lies like Wormtongue from Lord of the Rings.

Just as we’ve warned, Trump is being maliciously misled on the coronavirus by the very same evil people who had a hand in creating it.

Hey, America: Shut up, buy more stocks, take your vaccine shots and trust the government… we’re here to help!

With each passing day of this coronavirus fiasco, President Trump’s chances of losing the White House this November are rapidly expanding (much to the delight of the Democrats). By doing nothing and trusting the very same CDC and NIH that mostly consists of “never-Trumpers,” President Trump is allowing these agencies to set a dangerous trap that will ultimately be sprung by the media to blame Trump for an uncontrolled outbreak in the USA… an outbreak that has already silently begun.

And Trump is falling for it, hook, line and sinker.

Trump says, “We’ve stopped non US citizens from China,” but the USA hasn’t stopped flights from South Korea, Italy or Japan.

Trump says, “We’re screening people at a very high level,” but fails to realize that the coronavirus spreads in stealth mode, during its asymptomatic incubation period that can’t be detected by any airport screening whatsoever.

Trump says, “The USA is rated No. 1 at being prepared,” but fails to realize the USA is currently last place in the world when it comes to having functioning diagnostic test kits. The USA, in fact, is the only country in the world (other than North Korea) that appears to be conducting virtually zero testing for the coronavirus.

Any person claiming the USA is prepared for an outbreak for a virus that U.S. CDC officials can’t even detect on any large scale is kidding themselves. You can’t stop a virus if you aren’t testing for it, and yet somehow, both President Trump and Rush Limbaugh seem to be oblivious to the fact that the CDC is testing virtually no one.

There are already thousands of infections in the United States, and Trump is telling the public it’s almost zero… this won’t end well once legitimate lab testing begins

This is going to be very, very bad for President Trump. In fact, there’s no question the CDC is setting a trap to shift blame to Trump once the outbreak in the United States is finally documented by active lab testing (which has been delayed by the CDC). This will happen shortly after labs across America are given permission by the FDA to begin testing. Currently, both the CDC and the FDA are prohibiting labs across the entire country from conducting such tests (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-25-cdc-delays-and-excuses-laboratory-association-fda-coronavirus-tests.html). It’s not an accident, of course. This is all by design.

My best estimate is that right now, there are thousands of coronavirus-infected people in the United States, and almost none of them are being tested.

A DHS source told me there were 989 confirmed infections over one week ago, mostly along the West Coast. Doubling every 3.5 days, that number is already over 4,000.

An outbreak is starting to emerge in San Francisco, and the Mayor just declared a state of emergency there

We just got news from the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/02/26/f889693a-580e-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html) earlier this evening that a new coronavirus infection has been confirmed in Northern California, afflicting a person who did not travel to China and had no known contact with any other infected person. The CDC is deliberately withholding the county in which this cases has been confirmed, meaning it’s almost certainly in San Francisco. The non-China history of this person means there is sustained, human-to-human transmission taking place in San Francisco right now, which is exactly why the Mayor, London Breed, declared a state of emergency yesterday.

Orange County declared a state of emergency today (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-26-coronavirus-orange-county-declares-state-of-emergency-los-angeles-flight-attendant-tests-positive.html), by the way, even while claiming there are zero infections in Orange County.

Does anyone think that’s a coincidence? Of course it isn’t. Breed already knows San Francisco is a coronavirus hub, and since California is testing zero people for the virus, this thing is going to spread at the full R0 value of around 6.6, doubling perhaps every 3 days or so, exploding out of control while the CDC withholds testing kits and the FDA withholds approval for local labs to conduct any testing on their own.

By the time test kits are approved or provided, we might already be looking at 10,000 infections in San Francisco alone.

And guess who will get the blame? Not Nancy Pelosi. It will be Donald J. Trump. And Sen. Chuck Schumer will declare that Trump withheld funds, leading to mass infections and deaths in San Fran. You can see the script unfolding almost automatically.

Sadly, Trump walked right into the Trump trap, because he listened to the poisonous people who are setting him up to take the fall… the very same people who are happily sacrificing potentially millions of American lives in their effort to engineer a devastating crisis that can achieve a political advantage for the Democrats.

I have absolutely no doubt that the democrats are jumping on this "opportunity" to try to get rid of Trump. I still believe that Trump has accountability even if he is choosing to listen to someone with obvious and clear biases and conflict of interest. I believe like president Xi he will listen to whoever confirms the reality he wants to believe.

You don't have to be a virologist to get a basic understanding of viruses and whats going on here. He has endless resources and experts available to him to give him a balanced view and he is choosing the scenario he wants and choosing to listen to what he wants to hear.He is trying to confirm that the US is the best and we will throw the most money at this and "win". That is such blatant arrogance . I still stand by my belief that his reactions to this event will be looked at through the lens of his narcissism and we may pay the cost.

[onawah]

And it all depends on what you call "murder". For example: https://kurtnimmo.blog/2018/06/22/the-murder-of-julian-assange/




Do we have to believe that all the medical personnel in Wuhan, including chiefs of hospital, died not from exposure to sick people but because they were murdered ?
Did they die from an overexposure to 5G? Technically speaking we know now that it is possible to target individuals and probably kill them from the distance. It seems so very far fetched but nothing can be excluded.

[Sophocles]

Update: 3 more cases confirmed in Norway, 4 in total. The people infected have been to China (first case), Italy (second and third case) and Iran (fourth case).

Meanwhile the emergency number (113) is being blocked by concerned - and uninformed - citizens calling in asking about the corona virus.

[Philippe]

And it all depends on what you call "murder". For example: https://kurtnimmo.blog/2018/06/22/the-murder-of-julian-assange/




Do we have to believe that all the medical personnel in Wuhan, including chiefs of hospital, died not from exposure to sick people but because they were murdered ?
Did they die from an overexposure to 5G? Technically speaking we know now that it is possible to target individuals and probably kill them from the distance. It seems so very far fetched but nothing can be excluded.



This is embarrassing because I do not see a relation with what I wrote. I think Rappaport has it wrong because his theory does not explain why this medical personnel is dying. His reputation is at high risk in this crisis. It happens with talented persons who are trapped in their own belief system.

[Tomkoyote]

https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=17987#i

https://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=646947

[Frank V]

According to the Belgian state-sponsored news media, the number of deaths in China is dropping and Chinese people have begun self-quarantining and monitoring their vital signs ─ government-imposed ─ as well as preparing their own meals instead of ordering food or going to a restaurant. The number of infections does however keep on climbing, in spite of the now lowered death rate. Shanghai seems least affected. Certain businesses have resumed their activities, but those are usually small and local companies.

Outside of China, Korea seems to be most affected at the moment.

[onawah]

It's not a belief system if it's supported by facts, and he has plenty of facts to support his position.
There are multiple causes for the deaths and illnesses, and there is no clear science regarding viruses, and never really has been, despite "official" claims, which are about as credible as the claims made about vaccines.
And there are plenty of reasons (in their eyes) for TPTB to continue with the fear porn and the actual culling that is going on, and on the increase.
But I'm about ready to take a sabbatical from all the hysteria.



And it all depends on what you call "murder". For example: https://kurtnimmo.blog/2018/06/22/the-murder-of-julian-assange/




Do we have to believe that all the medical personnel in Wuhan, including chiefs of hospital, died not from exposure to sick people but because they were murdered ?
Did they die from an overexposure to 5G? Technically speaking we know now that it is possible to target individuals and probably kill them from the distance. It seems so very far fetched but nothing can be excluded.



This is embarrassing because I do not see a relation with what I wrote. I think Rappaport has it wrong because his theory does not explain why this medical personnel is dying. His reputation is at high risk in this crisis. It happens with talented persons who are trapped in their own belief system.

[Chester]

Adams and Jones are compromised individuals.

Not by nefarious third parties but by their business model... a model which thrives on generating panic of the vulnerable who follow their work. One of the important sources of income to Jones happens to be the sales of MRE food supplies. Also, Jones has been involved in profiting from the sales of "underground safe zone / bunker" construction which correlates with the all too often, 'end of the world' messaging he's well known for producing. Add to that the fact that Jones is likely an eschatologist (noting all the data points that suggest (confirm?) his affinity to apocalyptic evangelical Christianity), though that may just be a marketing tool. Adams has been joined at the hip with Jones with regards to his own marketing.

[pyrangello]

Boy if this virus makes its way into the homeless population in San Francisco and then is laying around into the streets there from the homeless taking a dump on public streets , this could become a horror show there. For the younger fatalities around the world that are just dropping over and dying without warning, it may be that this is there 2cd time of getting this virus, there is a common cord with influenza from 1918 and this virus is that its much worse the 2cd time around.

It almost looks like here in the states now is where china was 3 months ago. And then it ramped up from there. God only knows at this point. Time for all of us to strap in for one heck of a ride all around the world all on the same train together.

[Kamikaze]

Just found a interesting coincidence from the officials doing a exercise a few months prior.

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[justntime2learn]

I just went into town and noticed the largest police presence I've ever witnessed here. They're mostly clustered around the schools and grocery stores. Numerous bright colored unmarked SUVs.

I was told while trying to purchase a couple more n95 or n99 face masks that the sale has been stopped as well as all shipments.

I have a friend who ordered them online yesterday and was just told today the sale was stopped.

Anyone know if a website you can still purchase from?

I'd like to add some more detail, but I'm really busy at the moment. I'll try to come back and edit this when I'm finished with my responsibilities.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-26/most-new-infections-now-outside-china-who-says-virus-update

Coronavirus latest: California monitoring 8,400 people for Covid-19

An increase of 8000 from yesterday.

[Bill Ryan]

A DOG has just tested positive for Covid-19 in Hong Kong. (My comment: of course, it could also be an aspect of the unreliability of the test kits.)


https://scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3052775/coronavirus-dog-hong-kong-covid-19-patient-tests

Dog of Hong Kong Covid-19 patient tests ‘weak positive’ for virus

More tests will be conducted to see if the dog had really been infected with the virus or a result of environmental contamination of the dog’s mouth and nose.

[Dick]

First case in The Netherlands confirmed just a few hours ago, he has been in Italy, but they don’t know how long ago he was there.
This time, they try to find the places and people where he has been.
And “they” = RIVM, Dutch centre for disease control.
Yesterday the didn’t, when a german man who was a confirmed case, and had been in the Netherlands, they sayd, there’s no need to take further action, because the man wasn’t ill one week ago. :facepalm:

[Bill Ryan]

For me, [the press conference] came over as pretty awful. If [Trump] intended it to be a show of leadership and confidence, that wasn't conveyed to me. The markets may signal their own opinion overnight and tomorrow.The Dow has just closed down 1,191 points, or 4.4% – the worst one-day point drop in history.

[Dick]

For me, [the press conference] came over as pretty awful. If [Trump] intended it to be a show of leadership and confidence, that wasn't conveyed to me. The markets may signal their own opinion overnight and tomorrow.The Dow has just closed down 1,191 points, or 4.4% – the worst one-day point drop in history.

Same here: - 3.75 % today at 18:00 hour.

[Philippe]

Be well dear Natalie. I am not going to be fanatical about what I wrote. For sure so much lies have been created around viruses and vaccines for ugly purposes. And indeed many humans die from the simple flu and other causes. But there exist also the phenomenon of crossing a thin line where all accumulated and very true experience becomes a belief that is than continued notwithstanding new question marks.



It's not a belief system if it's supported by facts, and he has plenty of facts to support his position.
There are multiple causes for the deaths and illnesses, and there is no clear science regarding viruses, and never really has been, despite "official" claims, which are about as credible as the claims made about vaccines.
And there are plenty of reasons (in their eyes) for TPTB to continue with the fear porn and the actual culling that is going on, and on the increase.
But I'm about ready to take a sabbatical from all the hysteria.



This is embarrassing because I do not see a relation with what I wrote. I think Rappaport has it wrong because his theory does not explain why this medical personnel is dying. His reputation is at high risk in this crisis. It happens with talented persons who are trapped in their own belief system.

[Frank V]

For me, [the press conference] came over as pretty awful. If [Trump] intended it to be a show of leadership and confidence, that wasn't conveyed to me. The markets may signal their own opinion overnight and tomorrow.The Dow has just closed down 1,191 points, or 4.4% – the worst one-day point drop in history.

Same here: - 3.75 % today at 18:00 hour.

I would however like to put this in perspective. I'm no economist, but I know just enough about how the stock markets work to know that they are not representative of genuine economical or logistical trends ─ rather the opposite: they cause the occurrence of fluctuations and trends in the actual markets, because it's all speculative and driven by panic, greed and all those other "low-level" human tendencies.

My personal advice therefore is to take whatever the stock exchanges do with a huge bucket of salt. ;)

[onawah]

And you be well too, Philippe. :handshake:
Agreed, new questions need to be examined
...such as how is 5G affecting us and the ever-increasing number of frequency-emitting satellites, towers and devices
...how are the NEW components of ALL the accumulated toxic load we are all continually being exposed combining in new and unpredictable ways to affect us NOW, differently than they have been in the past
.. are there new, secret frequencies and toxins that are adding new factors to the equation
...why trust the mainstream media as the source of information, when even sources like Infowars and NaturalNews are suspect?
If more people were examining what is really known about viruses, I'm sure a lot of this hoopla would simply be seen for what it probably is--that is, irrelevant, misleading fear porn.


Be well dear Natalie. I am not going to be fanatical about what I wrote. For sure so much lies have been created around viruses and vaccines for ugly purposes. And indeed many humans die from the simple flu and other causes. But there exist also the phenomenon of crossing a thin line where all accumulated and very true experience becomes a belief that is than continued notwithstanding new question marks.


It's not a belief system if it's supported by facts, and he has plenty of facts to support his position.
There are multiple causes for the deaths and illnesses, and there is no clear science regarding viruses, and never really has been, despite "official" claims, which are about as credible as the claims made about vaccines.
And there are plenty of reasons (in their eyes) for TPTB to continue with the fear porn and the actual culling that is going on, and on the increase.
But I'm about ready to take a sabbatical from all the hysteria.



This is embarrassing because I do not see a relation with what I wrote. I think Rappaport has it wrong because his theory does not explain why this medical personnel is dying. His reputation is at high risk in this crisis. It happens with talented persons who are trapped in their own belief system.

update: And how far will TPTB go to make vaccinations mandatory, the perfect weapon to kill off as many people as possible as quickly as possible?
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Also see:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100537-Stop-5G-before-it-s-irreversible-&p=1338030&viewfull=1#post1338030


⚠️ Coronavirus is in my opinion (assertion) most likely a Common Cold Flu Virus that hurts weak people and may die because of having a too weak immune system! ... This always happened for centuries a small percentage DIE because of a flu virus ... But now with cumulative harmful mass 4G Cell Towers & soon 5G Cell Towers everywhere & WiFi & Bluetooth & Cordless Headsets Phones "Healthy People" ALSO get weaker! (let that sink in for a moment ...)

Can please anyone make a list of what is attacking and/or disrupting our immune-system last 20 years.

Did you know Governments admitted we have huge rise of "Mystery Illnesses" ... Meanwhile if you study the declassified Military & Navy Documents discussing Microwave Sickness Symptoms of the 1960s, 70s & 80s from the SAME RAGE FREQUENCIES that 5G will use! ... Microwave Sickness Symptoms are almost identical with current #EHS (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/ehs) Symptoms* which are officially recognized by European Commission & Parliament.

* EHS = Electromagnetic hypersensitivity

If they push Mandatory Vaccines on all of us THAT could be much worse than having a common cold flu virus, see video why!

Video: tinyurl.com/MandatoryVaccines-are-Worse (http://tinyurl.com/MandatoryVaccines-are-Worse)

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Founder Fb.com/groups/Stop5G (http://Fb.com/groups/Stop5G)

[Karen (Geophyz)]

Not the most reliable news source but:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8052775/White-House-GAGS-government-health-experts-speaking-coronavirus.html

White House GAGS government health experts from speaking about coronavirus

[Bill Ryan]

Not the most reliable news source but:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8052775/White-House-GAGS-government-health-experts-speaking-coronavirus.html

White House GAGS government health experts from speaking about coronavirusThis might be less sensational. (But still interesting!)


https://nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/us-coronavirus-pence.html

Pence Will Control All Coronavirus Messaging From Health Officials

Government health officials and scientists will have to coordinate statements with the vice president’s office, one of three people designated as the administration’s primary coronavirus official.

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/27/us/politics/27dc-virus1-sub/merlin_169656147_5de50cc8-7323-49fa-8c96-fec732e64fe1-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale
Vice President Mike Pence at a coronavirus briefing on Thursday at the Department of Health and Human Services in Washington.

WASHINGTON — The White House moved on Thursday to tighten control of coronavirus messaging by government health officials and scientists, directing them to coordinate all statements and public appearance with the office of Vice President Mike Pence, according to several officials familiar with the new approach.

President Trump announced Wednesday evening that Mr. Pence would coordinate (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-cdc.html) the government’s response to the public health threat even as he played down the immediate danger from the virus that is spreading rapidly across the globe (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/asia/china-wuhan-coronavirus-maps.html). Mr. Pence was scheduled to lead a meeting of the government’s coronavirus task force on Thursday.

Officials insist the goal is not to control the content of what subject-matter experts and other officials are saying, but to make sure their efforts are being coordinated, after days of confusion with various administration officials showing up on television. And they say they are not focused on specific news releases rather with a streamlined effort around television appearances.

Mr. Pence said Thursday that he had selected Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the director of the United States effort to combat H.I.V. and AIDS, to serve as the Coronavirus Response Coordinator for the White House, enlisting an experienced scientist and physician to manage the response to the potential spread of the virus.

The announcements from the White House were intended to show that Mr. Trump and those around him are taking the potential threat to the health of Americans seriously. Aides said the president wanted governors and members of Congress to have a single point-person to communicate with, eliminating any jockeying for power in a decentralized situation.

But with Mr. Pence’s announcement, Dr. Birx becomes the third person to be designated as the administration’s primary coronavirus official.

Mr. Trump said that “Mike is going to be in charge, and Mike will report back to me.” Mr. Pence said it will be Dr. Birx. Meanwhile, Alex M. Azar II, the health and human services secretary, remains the chairman of the government’s coronavirus task force.

The vice president’s first move appeared to be aimed at preventing the kind of contradictory statements from White House officials and top government health officials that have plagued the administration’s response. Even during his news conference on Wednesday, Mr. Trump rejected the assessment from a top health official that it was inevitable that the coronavirus would spread more broadly inside the United States.

Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, one of the country’s leading experts on viruses and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told associates that the White House had instructed him not to say anything else without clearance.

The new White House approach came as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention acknowledged Thursday that a California woman with coronavirus was made to wait days before she was tested (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/health/coronavirus-testing-california.html) for the disease because of the agency’s restrictive criteria about who may get tested.

And despite Mr. Trump’s efforts to calm the nation’s jittery investors, stock markets plunged again Thursday morning, opening about 2 percent lower amid concerns about the potential effects of the virus on the global economy. Earlier, European and Japanese stocks fell as well, closing more than 2 percent lower.

The president’s decision to appoint Mr. Pence to lead the coronavirus response came after several days in which his aides grappled with whether to name a “coronavirus czar” to coordinate the alphabet soup of federal health and security agencies that have roles to play in protecting the country.

Mr. Trump said at his news conference that he was pleased with Mr. Azar’s performance, calling the team that he has led “totally brilliant.” But White House aides, led by Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, have been debating for days whether the administration needed a point person to be the face of the response.

The decision to put Mr. Pence in charge was made on Wednesday after the president told some people that the vice president didn’t “have anything else to do,” according to people familiar with the president’s comments.

Dr. Birx has spent more than three decades working on H.I.V./AIDS immunology, vaccine research, and global health, according to the White House, which said in a statement that she would “bring her infectious disease, immunologic, vaccine research and interagency coordinating capacity to this position.”

The president’s selection of Mr. Pence — and the decision to name Dr. Birx as the coordinator for the response — further erodes Mr. Azar’s traditional role as the nation’s top health official in charge of directing the government’s response to a medical crisis. Mr. Trump has told people that he considers Mr. Azar to be too “alarmist” about the virus.

Mr. Azar denied reports that he was not consulted about the decision or told before the announcement Wednesday evening. He told lawmakers during a House Ways and Means Committee hearing on Thursday that when he was informed of Mr. Pence’s selection to head the coronavirus task force, “I said, quote, ‘that’s genius.’”

Officials also announced that Mr. Pence was expanding the Coronavirus Task Force to include “key administration officials, including Dr. Jerome Adams, the surgeon general, as well as the president’s top two economic advisers, Larry Kudlow, director of the National Economic Council, and Steven Mnuchin, the treasury secretary. The task force comprises more than a dozen top administration officials and cabinet secretaries.

Aides to Mr. Pence are aware that there are political risks for the vice president if the response to the virus falters in the days and weeks ahead.

Critics of the vice president quickly pointed to Mr. Pence’s record on public health issues when he was governor of Indiana as evidence that he was not the right person to lead the government’s response to a health crisis. Democrats noted that Mr. Pence was blamed for aggravating a severe AIDS outbreak (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/06/us/rural-indiana-struggles-to-contend-with-hiv-outbreak.html) among intravenous drug users when he opposed calls for a clean needle exchange program on the grounds it would encourage more drug use.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters on Thursday morning that she had told Mr. Pence directly that she questioned his new role given that he had “slashed” the public health budget when he was governor of Indiana.

“I spoke with the vice president this morning, made some of these concerns known to him,” she said. “We have always had a very candid relationship and I expressed to him the concern that I had of his being in this position.”

Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Thursday, Mr. Pence described the steps the federal government has taken in response to the virus and said that the president had no higher priority. “We will continue to bring the full resources of the federal government to bear to protect the American people,” he said.

Mr. Pence’s allies said it was a good idea to put him in charge.

“He’s been actively involved already,” said Representative Mark Meadows, Republican of North Carolina. “He, with Secretary Azar, have been really engaged for weeks.”

Mr. Meadows also minimized concerns that being the position put Mr. Pence in a politically precarious position. “I think the response will go well,” Mr. Meadows said. Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence, he said were “both committed to making sure they get a number of data points and communicate it efficiently.”

[Innocent Warrior]

I just went into town and noticed the largest police presence I've ever witnessed here. They're mostly clustered around the schools and grocery stores. Numerous bright colored unmarked SUVs.

I was told while trying to purchase a couple more n95 or n99 face masks that the sale has been stopped as well as all shipments.

I have a friend who ordered them online yesterday and was just told today the sale was stopped.

Anyone know if a website you can still purchase from?

I'd like to add some more detail, but I'm really busy at the moment. I'll try to come back and edit this when I'm finished with my responsibilities.

Australian company but they’re offering free shipping worldwide and their masks are on sale for $30 Aus dollars - https://www.bondiairco.com/

That’s the best deal I could find for you but if you need to keep looking then Google Australian sites. Already a shortage from the bushfire season but we’re not advised to wear masks unless we become ill. IDK about the other states but we were told they’d be supplied to us if necessary by the state government. We have longer to prepare, hopefully will avoid the panic buying problem. Good country to check for masks.

[Bill Ryan]

In Chris Martenson's update for today, livestreamed just a few mins ago, he has no words for China, the WHO, or whoever's calling the shots in the US. (Maybe nobody.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr1AkRtIHX4
And no words for 'Covid-19', either, given that that's such a dog's breakfast of a terrible name designed by committee. (My description, not his!)

So Martenson calls it The Honey Badger Virus. A perfect name. Here's why.

Honey Badgers aren't quite as sweet as their name might sound. They're small, vicious, and relentless. Like the Terminator, they never give up. To risk some humor at this difficult time, here's a most wonderful 4 minute extract from The Gods Must Be Crazy 2... starring a Honey Badger. Enjoy. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNCUh4QJCYo

[RogeRio]

An increase of 8000 from yesterday.

may because of change of method of diagnosis.

these controverse news bellow are interesting to "investigate"

China posts sharp drop in new coronavirus cases after criteria change (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-toll/china-posts-sharp-drop-in-new-coronavirus-cases-after-criteria-change-idUSKBN20E088)

last week, Hubei introduced a new, quicker diagnostic method through computerized tomography (CT) scans, which use X-rays, to reveal lung infections, and to confirm the presence of the virus.

The CT scan method of diagnosis resulted in suspected cases that showed signs of pneumonia, but did not test positive for genetic traces of the virus, being counted as confirmed cases of the coronavirus.

(portuguese)
No. of infected with coronavirus jumps with change in diagnostic method (https://saude.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,china-muda-metodo-de-diagnostico-e-mortes-pelo-coronavirus-chegam-a-1350,70003195840)

Commission said way of detecting disease was changed to anticipate treatment.

(I ask -- what treatment ? Quarantine ?) :confused:

[ExomatrixTV]

CLEAR EVIDENCE it is NOT a Bioweapon? (https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/02/12/clear-evidence-it-is-not-a-bioweapon-so-whats-all-this-about-ace2-and-ncov-2019-covid-2019/?fbclid=IwAR34Y6W1AscuFggR9p2ixml4lQfeWpsxRAhdpJG5ByA8-g6822_vQLR9Vv0) So What's All This About ACE2 and nCoV-2019 (COVID-2019)?

[Pam]

And you be well too, Philippe. :handshake:
Agreed, new questions need to be examined
...such as how is 5G affecting us and the ever-increasing number of frequency-emitting satellites, towers and devices
...how are the NEW components of ALL the accumulated toxic load we are all continually being exposed combining in new and unpredictable ways to affect us NOW, differently than they have been in the past
.. are there new, secret frequencies and toxins that are adding new factors to the equation
...why trust the mainstream media as the source of information, when even sources like Infowars and NaturalNews are suspect?
If more people were examining what is really known about viruses, I'm sure a lot of this hoopla would simply be seen for what it probably is--that is, irrelevant, misleading fear porn.


Be well dear Natalie. I am not going to be fanatical about what I wrote. For sure so much lies have been created around viruses and vaccines for ugly purposes. And indeed many humans die from the simple flu and other causes. But there exist also the phenomenon of crossing a thin line where all accumulated and very true experience becomes a belief that is than continued notwithstanding new question marks.


It's not a belief system if it's supported by facts, and he has plenty of facts to support his position.
There are multiple causes for the deaths and illnesses, and there is no clear science regarding viruses, and never really has been, despite "official" claims, which are about as credible as the claims made about vaccines.
And there are plenty of reasons (in their eyes) for TPTB to continue with the fear porn and the actual culling that is going on, and on the increase.
But I'm about ready to take a sabbatical from all the hysteria.



This is embarrassing because I do not see a relation with what I wrote. I think Rappaport has it wrong because his theory does not explain why this medical personnel is dying. His reputation is at high risk in this crisis. It happens with talented persons who are trapped in their own belief system.

update: And how far will TPTB go to make vaccinations mandatory, the perfect weapon to kill off as many people as possible as quickly as possible?
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Also see:http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100537-Stop-5G-before-it-s-irreversible-&p=1338030&viewfull=1#post1338030


⚠️ Coronavirus is in my opinion (assertion) most likely a Common Cold Flu Virus that hurts weak people and may die because of having a too weak immune system! ... This always happened for centuries a small percentage DIE because of a flu virus ... But now with cumulative harmful mass 4G Cell Towers & soon 5G Cell Towers everywhere & WiFi & Bluetooth & Cordless Headsets Phones "Healthy People" ALSO get weaker! (let that sink in for a moment ...)

Can please anyone make a list of what is attacking and/or disrupting our immune-system last 20 years.

Did you know Governments admitted we have huge rise of "Mystery Illnesses" ... Meanwhile if you study the declassified Military & Navy Documents discussing Microwave Sickness Symptoms of the 1960s, 70s & 80s from the SAME RAGE FREQUENCIES that 5G will use! ... Microwave Sickness Symptoms are almost identical with current #EHS (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/ehs) Symptoms* which are officially recognized by European Commission & Parliament.

* EHS = Electromagnetic hypersensitivity

If they push Mandatory Vaccines on all of us THAT could be much worse than having a common cold flu virus, see video why!

Video: tinyurl.com/MandatoryVaccines-are-Worse (http://tinyurl.com/MandatoryVaccines-are-Worse)

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Founder Fb.com/groups/Stop5G (http://Fb.com/groups/Stop5G)

Onawah, please don't leave at this time. We need you to be here. You are deeply appreciated and we value your wisdom. Stay with us.

[ExomatrixTV]

onawah nobody represents the whole ... stay in your own power ... most will support you ... I am one of them :heart:

[justntime2learn]

I just went into town and noticed the largest police presence I've ever witnessed here. They're mostly clustered around the schools and grocery stores. Numerous bright colored unmarked SUVs.

I was told while trying to purchase a couple more n95 or n99 face masks that the sale has been stopped as well as all shipments.

I have a friend who ordered them online yesterday and was just told today the sale was stopped.

Anyone know if a website you can still purchase from?

I'd like to add some more detail, but I'm really busy at the moment. I'll try to come back and edit this when I'm finished with my responsibilities.

Australian company but they’re offering free shipping worldwide and their masks are on sale for $30 Aus dollars - https://www.bondiairco.com/

That’s the best deal I could find for you but if you need to keep looking then Google Australian sites. Already a shortage from the bushfire season but we’re not advised to wear masks unless we become ill. IDK about the other states but we were told they’d be supplied to us if necessary by the state government. We have longer to prepare, hopefully will avoid the panic buying problem. Good country to check for masks.

Thank you, Rachel :heart:

I received some help prior to yours and have masks on order, however my debit card has not been billed yet, so I may just order them from the site you provided too. I wouldn't mind have a couple extra to help a neighbor out.

Sometimes, I wonder about little things like who will benefit financially in the short term. When will we see inflated prices for face masks, goggles, etc., on social media? I have read that some Chinese were recycling from garbage and reselling. Buyer beware.

[Delight]

I am certainly no expert in virology, however I think that there is enough common knowledge to say viuses exist. I am quoting below with a red highlight because POSSIBLY, not all identified viruses cause a designated disease. (Jon Rappaport being I think a champion of AIDS being much more than a simple HIV infection>). IMO the shallow assumption that all viruses are the cause of all disease has been a very wrong assumption too. BUT if one has never encountered a virus (or encounters it while already "down") there is troubling symptomatic response. IMO the concern is that no immunity PLUS poor resilience yields infection that can be deadly and with long term sequelae. There is the difference.


Virus (https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=5997): A microorganism that is smaller than a bacterium that cannot grow or reproduce apart from a living cell. A virus invades living cells and uses their chemical machinery to keep itself alive and to replicate itself. It may reproduce with fidelity or with errors (mutations); this ability to mutate is responsible for the ability of some viruses to change slightly in each infected person, making treatment difficult. Viruses cause many common human infections and are also responsible for a number of rare diseases. Examples of viral illnesses range from the common cold, which can be caused by one of the rhinoviruses, to AIDS, which is caused by HIV. Viruses may contain either DNA or RNA as their genetic material. Herpes simplex virus and the hepatitis B virus are DNA viruses. RNA viruses have an enzyme called reverse transcriptase that permits the usual sequence of DNA-to-RNA to be reversed so that the virus can make a DNA version of itself.

I am really concerned that there may become a conflation of

YES, we have been lied to by the PTB in SO MANY ways to

Viruses don't exist and do not ever cause disease. That would be a physical health analogy of flat earth I am thinking.

My idea is that in the presence of a set of conditions beginning with lack of simple hygiene, poor nutrition, exotic toxins and lack of self care (poor sleep, STRESS) or other conditions like chronic diseases, the HOST cannot overcome the viral assault.

I am concerned that in this present moment, people will alienate one another by going off into such extreme cognitive dissonance (i.e. because the truth is twisted, all previous Fact is wrong.

I will NOT depend on a vaccine NOR allow one except in the case that a gun is at my head. In that case, I will use all my power of BELIEF that I can neutralize what I believe to be toxicity. I will already be harnessing my power of BELIEF that I can have a relationship with viruses, bacteria, fungus and whatever and create a symbiotic 'live with them all" and neutralize toxicity state of my organism. Maybe I am being picky to dislike it when people I admire seem to have come to a conclusion that seems without merit?

[onawah]

Just to be clear, I do not deny the existence of viruses, or that they can be a danger, but for a certainty, there is so much we still don't know yet about this whole scenario, and don't understand thoroughly enough, that it is foolish to be jumping to any conclusions at this point.
There are still just too many variables.

[ExomatrixTV]

KERRY CASSIDY: CORONAVIRUS AND THE "TRUTH?" - FEB 27 2020
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Project Camelot investigation into the virus.

[ExomatrixTV]

Mainstream Attacks Natural Cures for Coronavirus so Get Your Vitamin C Now!

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[Chester]

This video is becoming popular

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[waves]

YOU CAN'T SUE A VIRUS

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I read some stuff early in this manufactured event then stopped reading anything, the papers, the pundits, nothing... and don't want to debate any of it.

Just want to stay outside the bubble and put my cards on the table for the record.

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Hey, any dutiful repeaters.... x number cases were just confirmed in x?
https://i.postimg.cc/J476yzfQ/obey.jpg
How did you confirm that before repeating what the robots said?

I haven't bought into or repeated one fear tactic of this supposedly contagious thingie or let it change me inside at all.

Ya, I've picked up bits and pieces of 'reports' of the numbers of infected 'discovered today' and 'dead', the new 'appearances' in other cities/countries, the quarantined, the incubation time, blah blah blah....

But all I see are millions of compliant ants at their desktops, phones or TV who are completely in denial that they have zero REAL evidence for any of the reports of the actual existence of this 'virus' AT ALL or ANY verification whatsoever of any sick or dead from IT.

Mandatory quarantines may be verifiable - BUT NOTHING ELSE IS!! Everything else is a 'story' being fed to repeaters... and the repeaters repeating...., robots to parrots to robots to parrots to.....

https://i.postimg.cc/qBY24ZMG/zbiigniew.jpg

What does that leave? - A GIGANTIC POINTLESS MASS SOCIAL EXPERIMENT / possibly TRIAL RUN... THAT SMELLS JUST LIKE THE WEEKLONG POINTLESS POWER CUTOFF EXPERIMENT DONE TO MILLIONS IN THE ENTIRE BAY AREA OF CALIFORNIA LAST YEAR.

I STRONGLY suspect this is another MASS SOCIAL EXPERIMENT to work out the bugs of one of the mass scale manipulation plans. To me it's being rolled out by the same perps as all the human caused/extremely destructive events suddenly escalating into new extremes around the world the last few years. I guess it was time for one of the worldwide experiments.

I STRONGLY suspect this and rest of these obviously long planned agendas rolling out are connected - the worldwide destructive weather warfare, the power cutoffs, the crop annihilations, the fires/floods, millions displaced/losing everything, the insect plagues, everything that's being blamed on 'climate change'.... and more. Average people are being blindsided and are more and more collectively oblivious to the others being blindsided because everyone is now deliberately news isolated from each other (without great extra search effort).

Except for this one... suddenly everyone is being told what is supposedly happening to everyone else everywhere.

I'm all for a little prepping and staying ahead of shelf emptying and mass stupidity, but I've learned there likely isn't even a contagious anything. Who knew - it took me until recently to learn that even many 'diseases' and/or thingies called viruses aren't even close to what we've been led to believe they are our whole lives... all of them. Do you even know that everything the medical industry calls a virus is not even alive like a bacteria? (the inert thingie needs to be surrounded by a live 'envelope' if I'm saying it right). There is WAY more to this subject to learn, and the narrative being fed for years about viruses is very misleading.

But what a great platform this could be for testing technologies galore with a nice convenient blame and no perps to sue. I strongly suspect this experiment is not ONE thing and has ZERO 'contagiousness'.

Ya, it's foreboding as hell to think of all the deliberate catastrophe making methods now on all our doorsteps. You bet I'm on alert - but hovering over and above the frantic ants, ignoring all repeating and buying NOTHING being said by media FACE VALUE.

~~~~~~~~~

"You can't sue a virus" David Parker, author of '700+ page What Really Makes You Ill", just released Dec. 2019.

"...There is no original scientific evidence that any particles classified as a virus are the cause of any disease. The problem lies with the use of the term 'virus' - Latin for poison - and the assumption that it refers to a pathogenic microorganism.
The definition of 'germ' means a microorganism. There are some basic functions an 'entity' must exhibit in order for it to be defined as 'living'. Interestingly, even the establishment definition of a virus does not refer to it as an 'organism' which suggests a virus is not considered to be alive. Viruses are not alive since outside of living cells they do nothing, ever. Viruses require the metabolism of a live cell because they lack the requisites to generate their own. Metabolism is the incessant chemistry of self-maintenance. Viruses lack this...."

~~~~~~~~

My money is on that this will all have long passed by the Summer Olympics in China.

Do you really believe the big corps want all your lives grinding to a halt and suddenly have all their money guzzling traps clamped shut and not get any of your slavery, your taxes, your purchases of their fragile stockpiles of autos, food, electronics, entertainment gizmos that need to keep moving... etc etc etc... Where's any benefit to who??

I see this as a 'future compliance' fear-seed planting like the mass compliance fear-seeding the million people power outage/fire scare was.

If you're a repeater, I know it's scary to stop being scared, but give it a try, the movie you can see from up here isn't so good, but the fresh air is MUCH nicer.


https://i.postimg.cc/dVHzQyDd/question.jpg

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

The Olympics are scheduled for Japan, not China.

[Delight]

Coronavirus and discussion with Joachim Gerlach (3CL and Cytokine Storms) by Dr Paul Cottrell

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From the 23rd


TONS OF VITAMIN C TO WUHAN
China Using Vitamin C Against COVID
by Andrew W. Saul, Editor-in-Chief
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service (http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n13.shtml)

(OMNS February 23, 2020) We can all agree that 50 tons of vitamin C pretty much qualifies as a megadose. We can also likely agree that trucking 50 tons of vitamin C, straight into Wuhan, full in the face of the COVID-19 epidemic, qualifies as news.

The news media are not reporting this, or any other, significantly positive megavitamin news.

in comments Osha root mentioned


Osha root (http://store.newwayherbs.com/osha-root-ligusticum-porteri-p239.aspx)is a Rocky Mountain herb and has been used by the Native Americans for treating respiratory infections and conditions of the digestive system. Today the herb is used in alternative medicine for treating colds and symptoms of viral infections. Osha root extract also induces sweating, and for fevers that will not go away, it works to kick out viral infections before they can become full-blown. It is known for its diuretic action and may help to relieve urinary problems such as stones and excess retained water. Like other bitter herbs, Osha stimulates appetite "feeds a cold".

Many people struggle daily with mucus and congestion problems, and it is a wonder that the benefits of Osha root tinctures are not more well-known. The herb can help to clear mucus from the sinuses and lungs, thereby helping to relieve congestion and make breathing much easier. It contains a number of volatile oils, including camphor, essential oils, saponins, terpenes, ferulic acid, phytosterols and lactone glycoside. It has been found to have the ability to elevate body temperature and induce sweating. It is used for such conditions as head colds with dry or wet cough, irritating coughs, sore throats, bronchial infections, early stages of tonsillitis, pneumatic complaints and pharyngitis. Also helpful in asthma to keep the lungs clear and the bronchial dilated. Combined with Echinacea against leukocytosis, an increase in white blood cells, it can be extremely beneficial as a powerful antiviral, and antibacterial herb, but mild for the other body systems.

It has been used internally in the treatment of digestive complaints, painful menstruation, and retained placenta. It has also been used to in cases of TB and headaches. An infusion of the roots is used externally to treat body aches. It aches like a mild anesthetic and numbs the area to reduce toothache pain.

[Delight]

An ORAL vaccine on its way? From Israel (hummm)

Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'
Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.
(https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101)

[onevoice]

A good friend who is currently going to medical school recommended that I watch the following Youtube video recorded by pulmonologist Dr Mike Hansen. He only addresses the medical aspects of the Covid-19.

In this video he discusses several drugs such as Remdesivir(HIV drug), Lopinavir & Ritonavir, Chloroquine (anti-malarial drug), and Favilavir that are currently undegoing trials in China. China has or is trying to patent the Remdesivir for treating the Covid-19.

Also discussed are Telmisartan and Losartan which are normally used to treats blood pressure issue. These drugs constricts the blood vessels to raise the blood pressure. These two drugs are ACE inhibitors which blocks the Coronavirus from locking onto the ACE receptors in the body.

-h_MWGPOyOE

[onawah]

The coronavirus vaccine as a source of dangerous invasion
by Jon Rappoport
February 27, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/27/the-coronavirus-vaccine-as-a-source-of-dangerous-invasion/

"This article is based on the research of Annie Logical. Her far-reaching, many-branched piece, “Corona Virus Fakery And The Link To 5G Testing,” can be found at https://www.vigiliae.org/virus-link-to-5g/ .

In prior pieces, I documented two of the experimental technologies that may be unleashed on the public, in the rush to develop a coronavirus vaccine.

DNA vaccines inject synthesized genes. The recipient’s genetic makeup is altered PERMANENTLY in unknown ways. RNA vaccines carry the potential to trigger autoimmune reactions: the body attacks aspects of itself.

As if that weren’t enough, there is another element deployed in DNA vaccines. It’s called electroporation.

An online dictionary provides a definition: “the action or process of introducing DNA or chromosomes into bacteria or other cells [including human cells] using a pulse of electricity to briefly open the pores in the cell membranes.”

A pioneer in this field is Dr. David Weiner. He is the co-founder of a San Diego company, Inovio Pharmaceuticals.

NBC San Diego, January 25, 2020: “A San Diego biotech company just received a $9 million grant to develop a vaccine for the coronavirus. Inovio Pharmaceuticals received a grant from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI).”

If Inovio wins a license to sell their version of a DNA coronavirus vaccine, electroporation will undoubtedly be brought along as part of the technology.

Here is an excerpt from an article, “What you always needed to know about electroporation DNA vaccines,” published in the journal, Human Vaccines and Immunotherapeutics, November 1, 2012: “…the cell membrane also needs to be in a permeabilized [“opened”] state in order to allow passage of the DNA molecule…[Electric] Pulses may be optimized to achieve either a greater degree of permeability of the cell membrane (for passive diffusion of drugs), or a greater degree of electrophoretic effect. As mentioned below, there are various ways to go about this, but generally a series of short high voltage pulses (e.g., 8 pulses of 0.1 ms at 1,000 V/cm voltage to electrode distance) is used for drug delivery, and a combination involving long low voltage pulses is used for DNA transfer [into human cells] (e.g., 1 pulse of 0.1 ms, 800 V/cm and 1 long pulse of 400 ms 80 V/cm).”

In a nutshell, this means that human cells, whose membranes are “too tight” to allow DNA to be injected into them, will be “opened up” by electric pulses, in order to deliver the new type of vaccine.

Apparently, it doesn’t occur to the researchers that human cells may be as “tight” as they are for a reason; and forcing them open with electric pulses, in order to inject DNA, could have unforeseen effects.

Electroporation isn’t the same kind of invasive action as, say, cutting into flesh to remove a bullet, during emergency surgery. The DNA vaccines, along with electric pulses, would be given to healthy people.

But as long as we think of ourselves as guinea pigs, willing to sit still for all sorts of medical experiments, what difference does it make? Genetic-altering vaccines, the body attacking itself, electroporation—if we surrender to the experts, and their assurances, I’m sure everything will be all right.

Right?

“Here’s what we’re doing. It’s quite innovative. You see, with electric pulses, we briefly open up cells and inject DNA, synthesized genetic material, into them. Ordinarily, the cells would reject such an intrusion, but we get around that. Once the genetic material is inside cells, it mimics a virus, and the immune system responds, as if this were an actual viral disease. That’s the vaccine effect. It’s wonderful. Safe. Nothing dangerous could happen…” "

(I urge everyone to read the article J.R. is recommending at https://www.vigiliae.org/virus-link-to-5g/ It is very long, with lots of hyperlinks, but necessary reading. )

[Sue (Ayt)]

Oh my... Appears that this scientist is bringing back the "panspermia" theory.

"British scientist says a fragment of comet caused the virus
Cambridge astrobiologist Dr. Chandra Wickramasinghe claims that the COVID-19 virus, that's on its peak, may additionally have been resulting from a fragment of a comet that exploded in a brief flash in North-East China in October 2019.

The sudden outbreak of a new coronavirus, in Wickramasinghe's perspective, is very probable to have a space connection. He brought the strong localization of the virus inside China is the most brilliant aspect of the disease.

"[It's probable] that this [comet has embedded an] infective [COVID-19] virus debris that lived in the incandescent meteor," Wickramasinghe said. The scientist took into consideration the seemingly outrageous possibility that masses of trillions of infective viral debris have been then released embedded within the shape of sweet carbonaceous dust.

Infectious agents, according to Wickramasinghe, are deemed to be widely wide-spread in the area, which might be carried on comets and may fall toward Earth via the troposphere. "These, we believe, can and have inside the past long gone on to result in human disease epidemics," he said.
Wickramasinghe's argument not new
This is not the first time that Dr. Wickramasinghe argues that a plague has its origin in the stars. He previously stated that During the 1918 flu epidemic, some varieties of polio, mad cow disease, and SARS arrived on Earth as a part of meteorites or clouds of comet dust.

Back when Dr. Wickramasinghe's was arguing that SARS was from space, a rival expert rebuffed his theories, underscoring that SARS is a coronavirus. The opposing expert said no such virus-or for that matter, any RNA virus-unlike bacteria, is known to be resistant to the kind of radiation present in space.

It is also said that Dr. Wickramasinghe's theories had been almost completely ruled out through the scientific network in general.

Dr. Wickramasinghe's concept, of course, is very just like the plot of the 1971 film and the 2008 miniseries. Andromeda strain, both primarily based at the 1969 novel by Michael Crichton. That ends while scientists finish that they want to ship the virus to publish it."
Are Aliens Behind the First US Coronavirus Confirmed Case of Unknown Origin? A Scientist Claim It's Possible! (https://www.techtimes.com/articles/247635/20200228/aliens-behind-first-coronavirus-confirmed-case-unknown-origin-scientist-claim.htm)

[RogeRio]

I will already be harnessing my power of BELIEF that I can have a relationship with viruses, bacteria, fungus and whatever and create a symbiotic 'live with them all" and neutralize toxicity state of my organism.

four years ago, I was (telepathically) oriented to cultivate herbs, experiencing a kind of friendship while caring the plants, so the plants will produce by symbiosis more or less substances to care my health, specifically the immune system through polyphenols, flavonoids, etc.

the evolutionary nature of the living things is inherently symbiotic -- that was the lesson to experience.

I had to learn how to make medicines to take care of the plants, one based on sulfur with calcium and magnesium carbonate, and other based on coconut soap with refined oil, the same ones used in moisturizing creams.

surprisingly, I found that these remedies to spray plants from harmful fungi and bacteria, absolutely also serve to protect the human body to preserve the skin, which in itself plays a fundamental role in the immune system (by supplying vitamins D and K).

I still haven't learned anything about viruses, but for now I keep thinking that with a good immune system, the virus that comes in I can fix it, even if I have to spend a few days resting (quarantined)

symbiosis works!!:chess:

[Philippe]

Raising the question if Chinese doctors and medical personnel died from the coronavirus or not, one should really know if these persons were vaccinated under the new mandatory vaccination program in China. Usually those professionals are the first to participate without much questioning in such programs. There is an unsubstantiated rumor on the internet that elements in such vaccines could be used for remote control and make persons literally drop dead (like has been happening). China has been the major playground of the globalists for the most advanced technologies (refer their appalling social credit system) and we do not know how far they have been with experimenting and implementing.

China: Vaccine Law Passed

(Aug. 27, 2019) On June 29, 2019, the National People’s Congress Standing Committee of the People’s Republic of China (PRC or China) adopted the PRC Law on Vaccine Administration (Vaccine Law). The official Xinhua news agency states that the Law provides for the “strictest” vaccine management with tough penalties in order to ensure the country’s vaccine safety.

https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/china-vaccine-law-passed/?fbclid=IwAR3UwGkquoRjOF7VZ-vsbWw-2K3lf17H2iVVtIMftnsISnFxwilaQ63htik


And you be well too, Philippe. :handshake:
Agreed, new questions need to be examined
...such as how is 5G affecting us and the ever-increasing number of frequency-emitting satellites, towers and devices
...how are the NEW components of ALL the accumulated toxic load we are all continually being exposed combining in new and unpredictable ways to affect us NOW, differently than they have been in the past
.. are there new, secret frequencies and toxins that are adding new factors to the equation
...why trust the mainstream media as the source of information, when even sources like Infowars and NaturalNews are suspect?
If more people were examining what is really known about viruses, I'm sure a lot of this hoopla would simply be seen for what it probably is--that is, irrelevant, misleading fear porn..


Be well dear Natalie. I am not going to be fanatical about what I wrote. For sure so much lies have been created around viruses and vaccines for ugly purposes. And indeed many humans die from the simple flu and other causes. But there exist also the phenomenon of crossing a thin line where all accumulated and very true experience becomes a belief that is than continued notwithstanding new question marks..


It's not a belief system if it's supported by facts, and he has plenty of facts to support his position.
There are multiple causes for the deaths and illnesses, and there is no clear science regarding viruses, and never really has been, despite "official" claims, which are about as credible as the claims made about vaccines.
And there are plenty of reasons (in their eyes) for TPTB to continue with the fear porn and the actual culling that is going on, and on the increase.
But I'm about ready to take a sabbatical from all the hysteria..



This is embarrassing because I do not see a relation with what I wrote. I think Rappaport has it wrong because his theory does not explain why this medical personnel is dying. His reputation is at high risk in this crisis. It happens with talented persons who are trapped in their own belief system.

[GrayWolfBG]

#covid2019 Time 2 don the 'doggy lampshades' folks.... it'll stop U self infecting via eye/nose/mouth rubbing & , when 2 wearers meet, maintain the 6ft 'safe space'... 4 the 'fashion conscious' watch a few Queenie 'Bladders' (esp. Lord Flashheart......) to get a few tips?

Now wash your hands!!!

[Bill Ryan]

This may be worth noting. There's a video in the article with a lot of clinical information that I'm unable to extract.

My own comment: I do think we may be in trouble here, especially if the virus is mutating — which a number of informed observers now suspect considering the apparently changed behavior of the virus in Iran and Italy.

As a separate comment, there's now a case (from Italy) in Nigeria, the first in sub-Saharan Africa. The chances of containing it there are near to zero, as they are in South America following the first reported case in Brazil a couple of days ago.


https://ntd.com/study-coronavirus-more-deadly-than-sars_439605.html


Study: Coronavirus More Deadly Than SARS
27 Feb, 2020

In a new clinical study published in the medical platform Med archive, which publishes papers that have not been peer-reviewed yet, a team of doctors in China studied 214 coronavirus patients in three different hospitals. The study concluded that the novel coronavirus could infect the nervous system, the respiratory system, and skeletal muscle. This makes the novel coronavirus much more dangerous than SARS.

[Bill Ryan]

From https://theepochtimes.com/interview-with-a-beijing-doctor-the-true-situation_3253249.html

My own comment (while this may seem obvious to anyone who's been following the situation closely!): No way is this contained in China. Not even close.

And given the degree to which the Chinese authorities seemed to know very clearly at an early stage how dangerous this is (and also that it was airborne), all the graphs suggest that where the rest of the world is at now is where China was at just a few weeks ago.

The Chinese haven't been able to contain this, whatever they tried to do. The rest of the world, with a far softer and less decisive approach, has no chance.

As I've stated several times here, everyone reading this will be fine. Simply because you all know how to take good care of yourselves and your families.

The knock-on effects we may experience are likely to be social and economic, but it has to be possible they may be something many haven't seen in our lifetime. This is my main interest, and why I'm tracking this so very closely.

I'm not being a fear-monger here. Just a mathematician.


Interview With a Beijing Doctor: the True Situation
28 Feb, 2020

Despite efforts by top communist officials to protect Beijing from the Coronavirus outbreak at all cost, COVID-19 is rapidly spreading throughout the city, and a number of hospitals located in the Xicheng District are treating people who have become infected through person-to-person transmission. The Xicheng District is home to the Zhongnanhai compound that houses the offices of top Chinese Communist Party (CCP) officials.

[Bill Ryan]

I never intend any harm to anyone, but one could be forgiven for thinking this may be karma at work.


https://scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3052933/coronavirus-cluster-work-unit-believed-be-chinas-cybersecurity


Virus cluster at ‘work unit’ believed to be China’s cybersecurity agency
28 Feb, 2020

A cluster of virus cases has been identified at a “work unit” located at the same address as China’s cybersecurity agency.


Health official says 178 people have been quarantined and are under observation, with 11 of them testing positive
Cleaner from a property management firm that provides services to the unit thought to have been first case

China’s cybersecurity agency is believed to be the latest place in Beijing to be hit by an outbreak of the deadly coronavirus that was first reported in Wuhan and has spread around the world.

Pang Xinghuo, deputy director of the Beijing Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, on Thursday said a cluster of infections had been identified at a “work unit” in the Chinese capital early this week.

While Pang did not name the work unit, she did give its location – at the same address as the National Computer Network and Information Security Management Centre, China’s top cybersecurity agency. The centre operates under the internet watchdog, the Cyberspace Administration of China.

Pang said 178 people from the affected work unit had been isolated for medical observation, including 11 who had tested positive for the coronavirus.

[Bill Ryan]

The Chinese haven't been able to contain this, whatever they tried to do. The rest of the world, with a far softer and less decisive approach, has no chance.

From this very useful running update page (https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases), recent developments just in the last 13 hours. Times are GMT. My own emphases in red for important cases.

28 February (today)


13:25: 6 new cases in Spain. (Source (https://twitter.com/SaludPublicaEs/status/1233354660209033216))
13:20: First case in Mexico. Patient in Mexico City. (Source (https://www.milenio.com/politica/coronavirus-mexico-amlo-confirma-caso-cdmx))
13:02: 1 new death in Japan. The man, a British citizen, was a passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source (https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200228/k10012307111000.html))
09:22: 1 new death in Japan. The woman, a Japanese citizen in her 70s, was a passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source (https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/newpage_09850.html))
08:44: 1 new case in Spain. First in Aragon. (Source (https://twitter.com/heraldoes/status/1233311974181801984))
08:44: 1 new case in Israel. (Source (https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Health-Ministry-confirms-second-case-of-coronavirus-in-Israel-619189))
08:31: 1 new case in France. First in Nice. (Source (https://twitter.com/cestrosi/status/1233308812456710144?s=19))
08:26: 1 new case in Greece. (Source (https://www.amna.gr/en/article/434884/Fourth-confirmed-case-of-new-coronavirus-announced-in-Greece))
08:20: 12 new cases in Hokkaido, Japan. (Source (https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200228/k10012306581000.html?utm_int=word_contents_list-items_004&word_result=%E6%96%B0%E5%9E%8B%E3%82%B3%E3%83%AD%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B9))
08:05: 2 new cases in Kuwait. (Source (https://twitter.com/AJABreaking/status/1233302082242908161))
08:01: 2 new cases in Croatia. (Source (https://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/troje-ljudi-zarazeno-ucenici-iz-rijeke-hitno-se-vratili-s-prakse-u-milanu-nalaze-se-u-samoizolaciji-1382259))
08:00: 315 new cases in South Korea. (Source (http://ncov.mohw.go.kr/tcmBoardView.do?brdId=&brdGubun=&dataGubun=&ncvContSeq=353241&contSeq=353241&board_id=&gubun=ALL))
07:44: 2 new cases in Malaysia. (Source (https://twitter.com/KKMPutrajaya/status/1233296825823584256))
07:18: 2 new cases in France. (Source (https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/coronavirus-le-maire-de-la-balme-de-sillingy-en-haute-savoie-annonce-2-nouveaux-cas-1865847.html))
07:06: 1 new death in Japan. (Source (https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200228/k10012306471000.html))
06:47: 2 new cases in Taiwan. (Source (https://www.cdc.gov.tw/Bulletin/Detail/HBpziqvnQZesFtrAyQFeJg?typeid=9))
05:14: First case in Belarus. (Source (https://news.tut.by/society/674389.html))
04:37: First case in New Zealand. (Source (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12312691))
04:35: 1 new case in Western Australia. Former passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source (https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/wife-of-first-wa-coronavirus-patient-has-also-tested-positive-c-721332))
02:35: 1 new case in Thailand. (Source (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-thailand-case/thailand-reports-one-new-coronavirus-case-total-reaches-41-health-official-idUSKCN20M0FS))
01:46: First case in Lithuania. (Source 1 (https://www.15min.lt/naujiena/aktualu/lietuva/koronavirusas-pasieke-lietuva-uzfiksuotas-pirmasis-atvejis-56-1282110), Source 2 (https://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/lithuania/lietuvoje-paskelbtas-pirmas-koronaviruso-atvejis.d?id=83646133))
01:35: 1 new case in Canada. First in Quebec. (Source (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/covid-19-montreal-quebec-1.5479106))
01:02: 256 new cases in South Korea. (Source (http://ncov.mohw.go.kr/tcmBoardView.do?brdId=&brdGubun=&dataGubun=&ncvContSeq=353219&contSeq=353219&board_id=&gubun=ALL))
00:43: First case in Nigeria. (Source (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-nigeria/italian-man-becomes-nigerias-first-case-of-coronavirus-minister-idUSKCN20M07D))
00:15: China’s National Health Commission reports 327 new cases and 44 new deaths across the mainland, including 318 new cases and 41 new deaths in Hubei province. The total increased by 310 new cases and 44 new deaths. (Source (http://www.nhc.gov.cn/yjb/s7860/202002/d5e15557ee534fcbb5aaa9301ea5235f.shtml))

[Bill Ryan]

Where is Q on COVID-19?
What a good question. (A purely rhetorical one on this thread! NOT to be discussed here, please. :) The main Qanon thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis) is the place for that.)

The relevance is the shambles and chaos the US response is in, whatever any officials (including the President) might maintain entirely for PR purposes. At some point, the numbers in the US will grow rapidly, and there's no way the information will be contained, let alone the virus itself.

[Tintin]

(I urge everyone to read the article J.R. is recommending at https://www.vigiliae.org/virus-link-to-5g/ It is very long, with lots of hyperlinks, but necessary reading. )

This has now been placed in the library for digestion, for anyone interested. As onawah has pointed out, above, it is very long (goes to 41 pages as a consequence of its layout :) ) and covers quite a bit of ground.

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Corona_Virus_Fakery_And_The_Link_To_5G_Testing_Annie_Logical_(Uncensored)_Jan_2020.pdf

[Bill Ryan]

Further summary comments from myself as of this morning US time. (No, I'm not going to start a YouTube daily update!)


The virus may be mutating. The outbreaks in Iran and Italy do suggest the possibility of a more aggressive, virulent strain. Chris Martenson, a PhD toxicologist, is calling for this to be gene-sequenced soonest, though I'd be confident this is already being done. (Martenson's daily updates are here (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w), the best on the net.)



If it is mutating, this will be like trying to hit a moving target from a vaccine-creation point of view. No standard vaccines may be possible.



I'm concerned about the reliability of testing. There's plenty of circumstantial, statistical evidence (and a number of well-recorded cases) to suggest that there are MANY false negatives. (I strongly suspect the patient in Ecuador a month ago, who came from China and soon after died of multiple organ failure, and who the CDC said did not have the virus, was a false negative.)



It's bewildering that many authorities in different countries do NOT seem to be aware of all the formally reported articles in medical literature about incubation periods and asymptomatic transmissiveness. Despite good intentions or strong words (often for PR purposes), containment attempts outside of China are often weak, half-hearted, indecisive, uncoordinated, and/or incompetent. And evidently ineffective. The response in the US should be embarrassing to the White House (and may yet prove to be).



Checks at airports or checkpoints using 'temperature guns' are of almost no use or value at all. That worked with SARS, but not with this thing.



It's not contained in China — not at all.



Many who've not lived or traveled in Europe may not understand that borders can NOT be closed. It's just impossible. You can cross freely from any country into another in hundreds of ways, without ever stopping, just like US state borders. (Quarantining a small town or city is much easier. But travel between countries by road, no.)



The virus is now in Africa (Egypt, Algeria, Nigeria) and Latin America (Brazil, Mexico). It can't be contained in either continent. It's just impossible, too. (And there's no 5G there. 5G symptoms, which I'm sure are 100% real and potentially serious, can't themselves be transmitted from person to person.)



The graphs of growth outside China are MORE than exponential. (A technical issue! And it barely matters. But to see this, look at the log graphs, and even they're gradually climbing. A log graph of an exact exponential curve is a straight line.)



It's already a pandemic by all the formally stated criteria.



The stock markets will continue to fall out the sky. Where that domino chain will go, heaven knows. (Not me! :) ) Supply chains of just about everything not locally grown or made will be affected, or in some cases just come to a halt.



I'll say this once again, if I may! Everyone reading this will be fine. :muscle: :sun: Simply because you all know how to take good care of yourselves and your families. The knock-on effects we may experience are likely to be social and economic, but it has to be possible they may be something many haven't seen in our lifetime. This is my main interest, and why I'm tracking this so very closely.

[spade]

One of the main ways the Spanish Flu was stopped was simply self-isolation, just stop travelling, stop visiting other people, commerce carefully, avoid congregating.... apparently San Francisco was the only successful town to avoid mass deaths due to this stringent and draconian observance. A lot of you can easily do this, but for some of us in denser cities and urban environments - it's much harder.

[AuCo]

Steve Bannon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon) talked at length with Simone Gao two days ago. Bannon is adamant that the situation is very far from being "under control' in China.

It's a very strong interview, highly recommended. Bannon does NOT mince his words. :)

There's not a single thing he says that I disagree with. And, once again, it really isn't impossible that the Chinese regime may fall.

I'd SO celebrate that. (But then, I'd soon be very worried what might be coming next...)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlF0LcQO9Tg

OFF TOPIC!!!

At 40:45, Bannon said "one day, when China is free - it's not because the rest of the world came to free China - it's the Chinese People, Old Hundred Names, finally got a belly full of it and He threw off the bad guy and He's gonna have a vote".

Baiyue (One Hundred Viet) whose ancestral land is now much of southern China used to address its people as One Hundred Surnames. Interesting that Bannon mentioned it. History tends to repeat.

BACK TO TOPIC!

[Bill Ryan]

Another prediction (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336668&viewfull=1#post1336668). (But a very tentative one.)

6a) I now think we may be on a timeline, or hovering/flickering near one, in which Trump will not be re-elected this year. That changed for me this morning when I took a really deep (subjective) look.

[Delight]

Another prediction (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336668&viewfull=1#post1336668). (But a very tentative one.)

6a) I now think we may be on a timeline, or hovering/flickering near one, in which Trump will not be re-elected this year. That changed for me this morning when I took a really deep (subjective) look.

Not that I have heard anything form NIH in the last 6 weeks that seemed proactive. Muzzling people is a scary sign. Will this be used to make him President for Life?

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[Bill Ryan]

A very good article from the Australian site, Virology Down Under. Published on 23 February, five days ago.

(British Prime Minister Harold Wilson once famously said: "A week is a long time in politics." It's a long time in epidemiology, too.)


https://virologydownunder.com/past-time-to-tell-the-public-it-will-probably-go-pandemic-and-we-should-all-prepare-now

Past Time to Tell the Public: “It Will Probably Go Pandemic, and We Should All Prepare Now”
23 Feb, 2020

We are starting to hear from experts and officials who now believe a COVID-19 pandemic is more and more likely. They want to use the “P word,” and also start talking more about what communities and individuals can and should do to prepare. On February 22, Australian virologist Ian Mackay asked us for our thoughts on this phase of COVID-19 risk communication.

Here is our response.

Yes, it is past time to say “pandemic” – and to stop saying “stop”

It’s a good time to think about how to use the “P word” (pandemic) in talking about COVID-19. Or rather, it is past time.

It is important to help people understand that while you think – if you do think so – that this is going to be pandemic in terms of becoming very widespread, no one knows yet how much severe disease there will be around the world over short periods of time. “Will it be a mild, or moderate, or severe pandemic? Too soon to say, but at the moment, there are some tentative signs that….”

The most crucial (and overdue) risk communication task for the next few days is to help people visualize their communities when “keeping it out” – containment – is no longer relevant. The P word is a good way to launch this message.

But the P word alone won’t help the public understand what’s about to change: the end of most quarantines, travel restrictions, contact tracing, and other measures designed to keep “them” from infecting “us,” and the switch to measures like canceling mass events designed to keep us from infecting each other.

We are near-certain that the desperate-sounding last-ditch containment messaging of recent days is contributing to a massive global misperception about the near-term future. The theme of WHO’s and many governments’ messages – that the “window of opportunity” to stop spread of the virus (https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/21/coronavirus-picking-up-steam-outside-china/) is closing – is like the famous cover page of Nevil Shute’s On the Beach: “There is still time … Brother.”

For weeks we have been trying to get officials to talk early about the main goal of containment: to slow the spread of the virus, not to stop it. And to explain that containment efforts would eventually end. And to help people learn about “after containment.” This risk communication has not happened yet in most places.

So here is one more pitch for openness about containment. Officials: Please read Containment as Signal, Swine Flu Risk Miscommunication (https://www.psandman.com/col/swineflu2.htm), which we wrote in 2009.

One horrible effect of this continued “stop the pandemic” daydream masquerading as a policy goal: It is driving counter-productive and outrage-inducing measures by many countries against travelers from other countries, even their own citizens back from other countries. But possibly more horrible: The messaging is driving resources toward “stopping,” and away from the main potential benefit of containment – slowing the spread of the pandemic and thereby buying a little more time to prepare for what’s coming.

We hope that governments and healthcare institutions are using this time wisely. We know that ordinary citizens are not being asked to do so. In most countries – including our United States and your Australia – ordinary citizens have not been asked to prepare. Instead, they have been led to expect that their governments will keep the virus from their doors.

Take the risk of scaring people

Whenever we introduce the word “pandemic,” it’s important to validate that it’s a scary word – both to experts and to non-experts – because it justifiably contains the implication of something potentially really bad, and definitely really disruptive, for an unknown period of time. This implication is true and unavoidable, even if the overall pattern of disease ends up being mild, like the 2009-10 “swine flu” pandemic.

Validate also that some people may accuse you of fear-mongering. And respond that hiding your strong professional opinion about this pandemic-to-be would be immoral, or not in keeping with your commitment to transparency, or unforgivably unprofessional, or derelict in your duty to warn, or whatever feels truest in your heart.

It may help to consider the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” fallacy. Feel free to say that “Jody Lanard and Peter Sandman say” that officials or experts – in this case YOU – are “darned if you do and damned if you don’t.” You’re only darned if you warn about something that turns out minor. But you’re damned, and rightly so, if you fail to warn about something that turns out serious.

It’s simply not true, in principle or in practice, that you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t! Over-alarming risk messages are far more forgivable than over-reassuring ones.

Push people to prepare, and guide their prep

This is the most culpable neglected messaging in many countries at this point.

The main readiness stuff we routinely see from official and expert sources is either “DON’T get ready!” (masks), or “Do what we’ve always told you to do!” (hand hygiene and non-mask respiratory etiquette).

The general public, and many categories of civil society, are not actively being recruited to do anything different in the face of COVID-19 approaching.

A fair number of health care workers and communication officers tell us their hospitals and healthcare systems are just barely communicating about COVID-19. They want to be involved in how to prepare for “business not as usual.” We’re guessing that many hospital managements are in fact preparing for COVID-19, but we worry that they’re doing it too quietly, without enough effort to prepare their staff.

Lots of businesses, especially smaller ones, are doing off-the-cuff pre-pandemic planning. Several trade journals have articles about how specific industries should prepare for a likely pandemic. Around February 10, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention posted interim guidance for businesses (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/guidance-business-response.html). But we have seen almost nothing in mainstream media citing this guidance, or recommending business continuity strategies like urgent cross-training so that core functions won’t be derailed because certain key employees are out sick, for instance.

Pandemic planning research suggests that employees are likeliest to say they will show up for work during a pandemic if three specs are met – if they think their family is reasonably safe; if they think their employer is being candid with them about the situation; and if they have a pandemic-specific job assignment in addition to or different from their routine “peacetime” assignment.

Hardly any officials are telling civil society and the general public how to get ready for this pandemic.

Even officials who say very alarming things about the prospects of a pandemic mostly focus on how their agencies are preparing, not on how the people they misperceive as “audience” should prepare. “Audience” is the wrong frame. We are all stakeholders, and we don’t just want to hear what officials are doing. We want to hear what we can do too.

We want – and need – to hear advice like this:


Try to get a few extra months’ worth of prescription meds, if possible.
Think through now how we will take care of sick family members while trying not to get infected.
Cross-train key staff at work so one person’s absence won’t derail our organization’s ability to function.
Practice touching our faces less. So how about a face-counter app like the step-counters so many of us use?
Replace handshakes with elbow-bumps (the “Ebola handshake”).
Start building harm-reduction habits like pushing elevator buttons with a knuckle instead of a fingertip.

There is so much for people to do, and to practice doing in advance.

Preparedness is emotional too

Suggesting things people can do to prepare for a possible hard time to come doesn’t just get them better prepared logistically. It also helps get them better prepared emotionally. It helps get them through the Oh My God (OMG) moment everyone needs to have, and needs to get through, preferably without being accused of hysteria.
It is better to get through this OMG moment now rather than later.

Offering people a list of preparedness steps to choose among means that those who are worried and feeling helpless can better bear their worry, and those who are beyond worry and deep into denial can better face their worry.

Yet another benefit: The more people who are making preparedness efforts, the more connected to each other they feel. Pandemic preparedness should be a communitarian experience. When a colleague offers you an elbow bump instead of a handshake, your mind goes to those lists of preparedness recommendations you’ve been seeing, and you feel part of a community that’s getting ready together.

This OMG realization that we have termed the “adjustment reaction” (see http://www.psandman.com/col/teachable.htm) is a step that is hard to skip on the way to the new normal. Going through it before a crisis is full-blown is more conducive to resilience, coping, and rational response than going through it mid-crisis. Officials make a mistake when they sugarcoat alarming information, postponing the public’s adjustment reaction in the vain hope that they can avoid it altogether.

Specific pandemic preparedness messages

Below are links to specific preparedness messaging we drafted for a possible H5N1 pandemic. The links are all from our 2007 website column What to Say When a Pandemic Looks Imminent: Messaging for WHO Phases Four and Five (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-1.htm). Each item is in two parts – a draft message (a summary sentence followed by a few paragraphs of elaboration), then a risk communication discussion of why we think it’s an appropriate pre-pandemic message. Because these were written with H5N1 in mind, the pandemic they contemplate is more severe and less likely than the one we contemplate today. So some changes may be called for – but frankly, in our judgment, not many.


We may have a window of opportunity now to make some practical preparations. We must make the most of it – even though the effort may be wasted if a severe pandemic doesn’t happen. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-2.htm#msg8)
What matters most is how households, neighborhoods, community groups, and businesses prepare. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-2.htm#msg9)
Individual and community preparations will focus on three tasks – reducing each person’s chance of getting sick, helping households with basic survival needs during a pandemic, and minimizing and coping with larger societal disruption. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-2.htm#msg10)
Social distancing will be important but unpleasant. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-2.htm#msg11)
School closings present a particularly difficult social distancing dilemma. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-2.htm#msg12)
Hand-washing is far from a panacea. But it’s easy, it’s under your control, and it has no significant downside. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-3.htm#msg13)
Like washing your hands, wearing a facemask may help a bit. But it has more downside than washing your hands. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-3.htm#msg14)
Getting ready for a pandemic is largely about preparing for possible shortages. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-3.htm#msg15)
It’s probably too late to stockpile much now, but do what you can. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-3.htm#msg16)
Now is also the time to think about how you will care for loved ones at home. (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-3.htm#msg17)
To get ourselves through the hard times that may be coming, we will need volunteers. How can you help? (http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu4-3.htm#msg18)

One of the scariest messaging failures in the developed world is not telling people vividly about what the end of containment will look like, for instance the end of contact-tracing and most quarantines.

The FAQs on the Singapore Ministry of Health webpage (https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/faqs) can serve as a model that other developed countries can adapt to start talking to their publics about this now, to reduce the shock and anger when governments stop trying to contain all identified cases.

What’s working for us

We’d like to share with you some of our recent everyday life experiences in talking about pandemic preparedness with people who perceive us as a bit knowledgeable about what may be on the horizon. Some of this overlaps with the more generic comments above.

1. We’ve found it useful to tell friends and family to try to get ahead on their medical prescriptions if they can, in case of very predictable supply chain disruptions, and so they won’t have to go out to the pharmacy at a time when there may be long lines of sick people. This helps them in a practical sense, but it also makes them visualize – often for the first time – how a pandemic may impact them in their everyday lives, even if they don’t actually catch COVID-19. It simultaneously gives them a small “Oh my God” moment (an emotional rehearsal about the future) – and something to do about it right away to help them get through the adjustment reaction.

2. We also recommend that people might want to slowly (so no one will accuse them of panic-buying) start to stock up on enough non-perishable food to last their households through several weeks of social distancing at home during an intense wave of transmission in their community. This too seems to get through emotionally, as well as being useful logistically.

3. Three other recommendations that we feel have gone over well with our friends and acquaintances:


Suggesting practical organizational things they and their organizations can do to get ready, such as cross-training to mitigate absenteeism.
Suggesting that people make plans for childcare when they are sick, or when their child is sick.

4. And the example we like the best, because it gives every single person an immediate action that they can take over and over: Right now, today, start practicing not touching your face when you are out and about! You probably won’t be able to do it perfectly, but you can greatly reduce the frequency of potential self-inoculation. You can even institute a buddy system, where friends and colleagues are asked to remind each other when someone scratches her eyelid or rubs his nose. As we noted earlier, someone should develop a face-touching app – instead of a step-counting app to encourage you to walk more, how about an app to encourage you to auto-inoculate less! And track your progress, and compete with your friends, even!

The last message on our list – to practice and try to form a new habit – has several immediate and longer-term benefits.

Having something genuinely useful to do can bind anxiety or reduce apathy. You feel less helpless and less passive.

And you can see yourself improving.

And you can work on your new habit alone, and also in a pro-social communitarian way. Others can help you do it, and you can help them.

And it yields real harm reduction! It is arguably the endpoint of what washing your hands is for, and it helps when you can’t wash your hands out in the world.

Like all good pandemic preparedness recommendations, it helps you rehearse emotionally, as well as logistically.

The bottom line

Every single official we know is having multiple “Oh my God” moments, as new COVID-19 developments occur and new findings emerge. OMG – there is a fair amount of transmission by infected people with mild or subclinical cases! OMG – there is a high viral load early on in nasal and pharyngeal samples! OMG – the Diamond Princess, how can that have been allowed to happen! And on and on.

Officials help each other through those moments. They go home and tell their families and friends, sharing the OMG sensation. And then what do they tell the public? That they understand that “people are concerned” (as if they themselves weren’t alarmed), but “the risk is low and there’s nothing you need to do now.”

Ian, it sounds like you want to argue on behalf of preparedness. Encouraging all stakeholders to prepare logistically should start now, if not sooner. And you are in a position not just to encourage logistical preparedness, but also to encourage government sources and other experts like yourself to do the same. Perhaps even more important, in our judgment: You can try to encourage emotional preparedness, and try to encourage other official and expert sources to encourage emotional preparedness – guiding people’s OMG adjustment reactions instead of trying to stamp them out.

[Agape]

On the front line in Wuhan (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-51660852/coronavirus-on-the-front-line-in-wuhan)

Another doctor “on the move” after giving snap interview to another undercover BBC reporter. Read between the lines, I guess, don’t take all you hear and read for granted.
The truth will eventually get through and out. What we are seeing is surreal in more than one way. This may be the first and only time any of these people- medical personnel especially who are supposed to be fully loyal to the state apparatus- found a way and reason to speak openly and internationally.

One may question if he’s still a tool of regime propaganda but on the other hand and from my own experience, most people with high iqs and academic qualifications are aware and proud of their oath and service to humanity and if granted free platform they will speak the truth. Clearly also, everyone in there are already risking lives for each other since all have been exposed to the virus so there isn’t much to lose.

We don’t get to hear from any of these “normal people in China” sharing their opinions, usually which makes them all even more estranged to the rest of the world.

The beautiful feature about it is: they’re not even inch different than anyone else. Just enstranged and politically under control but not really bent or broken.

It all may be something else too, for sure. But if you have been through many
or some critical life events, you know that reality is sometimes, stranger than fiction.

No, history does not evolve following straight logical vector. Neither it can be understood through single kind of mentality and language environment following straight vector.
That’s where everyone bumps their nose to a wall eventually before finding the hind stairs to the next floor. So called Chinese, English, Israeli, Japanese or German mentality (fit any singular mentality of human kind) will lead you to a wall eventually before you will find the staircase or break your head against a wall.
Think your gene swimming pool is big enough to get to a wall ? My, you desperately long to get there even if your papa mama and government never recommended :)

It’s a huge eye opener but dangerous one as well.

There is so much we will never get chance to explore on this “timeline”. Number of viruses already spread among human population contributing to other diseases like cancer and many discrete conditions is far bigger than explored or admitted.

It’s important to find natural cures but returning to state of purity is more important.


Thanks for the moment


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[thepainterdoug]

Bill , regarding re election of Trump. Yesterday for the first time, this hit me as well. I all along thought Trump is a shoe in. But now, not so sure. The Dems are really pushing a political angle to this virus . Politics is dirty and they are raising the bar. Schumer talking big talk as if he or anyone would have any better idea what to do and how to stop this virus. And since nothing has worked , Russia collusion, Ukraine, impeachment, nothing, they are jumping ship and putting all into the virus angle. They will do anything to get rid of this guy. Almost makes me think they engineered this virus ! lol
Truth doesn't matter. Perception does, and if they keep chanting it , that Trump allowed this to happen etc then they can create doubt , and its up for grabs. And thats a play directly from Trumps playbook. Create doubt and alter public perception, pro wrestling style

[Bill Ryan]

They will do anything to get rid of this guy. Almost makes me think they engineered this virus ! lol
Well, if this was a Tom Clancy novel, imagine a high-level scenario to eliminate the threats from


China.
Iran.
Trump.

And at the same time, to promote


Compulsory vaccinations.
US gun control (in the event of large scale quarantines).
Higher-level personal surveillance and tracking of movements.
Censoring non-mainstream media.
The NWO global police state.

[Antagenet]

One of the main ways the Spanish Flu was stopped was simply self-isolation, just stop travelling, stop visiting other people, commerce carefully, avoid congregating.... apparently San Francisco was the only successful town to avoid mass deaths due to this stringent and draconian observance. A lot of you can easily do this, but for some of us in denser cities and urban environments - it's much harder.

The million dollar question is.. when is your last trip to the supermarket, before you hole up? When the virus has entered your country, your town or your neighborhood?

[Bill Ryan]

The million dollar question is.. when is your last trip to the supermarket, before you hole up? When the virus has entered your country, your town or your neighborhood?This is highly speculative, but the good question deserves a little thought.

One possible answer for at least ONE major supermarket trip for those in the US could be at the end of next week, or the middle of the week after, when real US test results start to come in — and everyone starts to freak out big time. That's when Mr and Mrs Joe and Jane Everyman may start forming lines at Costco... and you may not want to be at the end of that line.

[Floating]

They will do anything to get rid of this guy. Almost makes me think they engineered this virus ! lol
Well, if this was a Tom Clancy novel, imagine a high-level scenario to eliminate the threats from


China.
Iran.
Trump.

And at the same time, to promote


Compulsory vaccinations.
US gun control (in the event of large scale quarantines).
Higher-level personal surveillance and tracking of movements.
Censoring non-mainstream media.
The NWO global police state.


All you are missing is the "Alien Invasion" or "Planet X".
That would put the world on notice.

[onawah]

I have to confess, I haven't read the whole thing myself as yet, :blushing: and didn't realize it's 41 pages long, but even if you don't read the whole thing, it's worth taking a look at.



(I urge everyone to read the article J.R. is recommending at https://www.vigiliae.org/virus-link-to-5g/ It is very long, with lots of hyperlinks, but necessary reading. )

This has now been placed in the library for digestion, for anyone interested. As onawah has pointed out, above, it is very long (goes to 41 pages as a consequence of its layout :) ) and covers quite a bit of ground.

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Corona_Virus_Fakery_And_The_Link_To_5G_Testing_Annie_Logical_(Uncensored)_Jan_2020.pdf

[IChingUChing]

I watched this video from Dr John Bergman today. I haven't watched him before. I find it good that he also mentions the potential socio-political implications of whats happening:

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[James]

I've been keeping a tab on the media's response to COVID-19 here in the States. One thing I've noticed over the past couple days is their perpetual marginalization of the threat of the virus spreading to the States has been swiftly replaced with one of the virus becoming "background noise" among the usually suspects that sweep through the country each year during influenza season.

It's very strange, because outside of a few sources, the media likes to take an opposing point of view to anything Donald Trump states. For example, when he tightened restrictions on travel due to the virus spreading quickly, it was portrayed as a draconian effort. Now that he's allocated funding for the virus and put Mike Pence as point man, the message has gone to "oh, gee, it's going to spread everywhere anyway, but no big deal, it's just a stuffy nose and cough..."

This is all quite troubling, because most folks here in the States, or anywhere for that matter, get their info from the typical three-letter soapboxes whether online or via TV. So with this constant ping-ponging of opinions, it leaves them confused and frustrated, and when someone is confused and frustrated, they're likely to respond with unjust fear instead of sensible/productive action.

[TrumanCash]

I have been assisting in the ordering of a machine from a Chinese factory in Luohe, a city about two hundred miles north of Wuhan. The factory sales rep was emailed five days ago when they were supposed to return to work after the Chinese New Year. This factory rep has always answered emails within two days in the past and has been very helpful.

So far there has been no communication from this sales rep or other factory person. We have no idea now whether we will be able to get the machine which was paid for and was supposed to be ready to ship by now. I am sure that there are a lot of other people and companies having the same problem.

So I think whatever is happening in China (coupled with articles on ZeroHedge and other sources), it appears to be quite serious.

I will update this post as the situation develops.

UPDATE: We finally got an email from the sales rep we have been dealing with at the Chinese machinery factory:



"Sorry to reply you late.

Because the China special time, we extend our holiday, plant to back office on 10th this month. When we start work, we will arrange the goods as soon as possible.

Sorry the special time cause inconvenience for you."

I wonder if they are required by the government to use the euphemism "special time" to refer to whatever is going on in China.

UPDATE: We received another email from the sales rep from the Chinese factory:



"Thank you, we believe that the special time will be over soon.

Our factory will start to work on 18th this month, then we will arrange the machine and parts as soon as quickly."

We were told right before the Chinese New Year holiday in mid-January that the factory would get started with our order on February 1st. This email today reveals that the euphemism "special time" was not in reference to the Chinese New Year but to the current viral outbreak in China.

Update: We have been informed by the sales rep for the factory that is custom building our machine that they have finished it except for an electrical plug that we can get in the US at Home Depot (for example). The factory is not in the Hubei province; it is about 200 miles north of Wuhan.

We were told five days ago that they don't have that particular plug and that the factory that makes those plugs has not gone back to work yet.

The next question is will it be shipped soon and do we need to disinfect the machine when we receive it? It has to go through US Customs when entering the US, so I'm wondering if Customs will be disinfecting everything coming into the US.

[onawah]

World-famous Celebrity makes shocking statement about the Flu And the Coronavirus
by Jon Rappoport
February 28, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/28/world-famous-celebrity-makes-shocking-statement-about-the-flu/

"After a prominent celebrity went public with the following statement on national television, I tried to contact him for a follow-up. No luck so far. He does seem to urge people to take the flu shot, but his other remarks are potentially explosive, if you fill in a few blanks and glean the implications. Here is his statement:

“I want you to understand something that shocked me when I saw it. I spoke with Dr. Fauci on this and I was really amazed, and I think most people are amazed to hear it. The [ordinary] flu in our country kills from 25,000 people to 69,000 people a year. That was shocking to me. So far, if you look at what we [in the US] have with the 15 people [diagnosed with the coronavirus] and they’re recovering, one is pretty sick, but hopefully we’ll [he’ll] recover. But the others are in great shape. But think of that. 25,000 to 69,000 [ordinary flu deaths annually]. Over the last 10 years, we’ve lost 360,000. These are people that have died from the flu, from what we call the flu…”

He seems to be pointing a big fat accusatory finger at US public health agencies, like the CDC, as he says, Look, all these deaths from ordinary flu every single year, like clockwork, and you don’t declare THAT an epidemic or an emergency, so why are you issuing stern warnings when 15 people in the US have been diagnosed with the coronavirus; imagine the reaction if we had 35,000 deaths year after year from the coronavirus in the US; you would go nuts; what’s wrong with you people?

You can see why I wanted to follow up with him. All sorts of issues to explore and discuss.

Of course, as I’ve shown in these pages many times, he’s dead wrong about how many people can be confirmed as annual flu deaths in the US. That number is really miniscule. Nevertheless, his point stands: if national public health agencies CLAIM that 35,000 people a year die of ordinary flu, why don’t they call that an epidemic? And why do they call 15 “coronavirus cases” in the US an emergency?

I wanted to sort all this out with him, but it looks like I won’t be able to.

His name is Donald Trump, and he made his comments Wednesday night during his address to the nation.

The press made very little mention of this, except to disparage him for daring to compare ordinary pedestrian flu to the white-hot coronavirus situation. What is ordinary about the claim that 360,000 Americans per decade die of the flu? That’s a puzzle, isn’t it? I just called my doctor. He told me to take two Thorazine, go to bed, and think about it again in the morning."

:ROFL:

[ExomatrixTV]

COVID - 19 Friday update 28 Feb
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COVID – 19 News, Friday 28th Feb 2020 50 countries WHO More new cases in the rest of the world than in China Decisive moment, can still be maintained, not a pandemic Virus has pandemic potential Calling on countries to be prepared With the right measures this virus can be contained South Korea 427 diagnosed on Friday 2, 337 confirmed cases Widespread community spread 13 deaths 29 days since Jan 20th Money made available 50 countries restricting entry Drive through testing, test results in 2 days Japan 226 cases All schools closed from next week Iran Vice president and 4 MPs Deputy health minister infected 270 confirmed cases 28 deaths 8 deaths due to coronavirus in just one shift in Kamkar Hospital in Tehran ? Use of steroids Schools and universities closed Events cancelled Friday prayers cancelled in 23 cities Religious authorities encourage people to visit shrines in Qom, (healing powers) More reports about infection in prisons located in Karaj and Tehran. NZ One case from Iran Italy 655 confirmed cases 5 deaths on Thursday ? Super spreader found, Italian who had not been to China. Feeling ill since 14 Feb, diagnosed 20 Feb. Sent home from hospital with flu meds. Pope being tested Unknown cases seeding other areas and countries Israel Traveller from Italy, one confirmed infected US 60 confirmed cases Cases with no epidemiological link to China Tenerife Jet 2 Airline refusing to fly people home unless they test negative (Spain 25) Saudi Banned all religious pilgrims Banned people from infected countries HK Dog tested ‘weak positive’, dog not sick, dogs not infectious China 327 new cases on Thursday 44 deaths on Thursday Henan province, (96 million) 1, 200 confirmed cases 150 active cases now 0 new cases for 3 days Community is still closed Supermarket in community Not allowed to leave the community without an emergency Infection risk is now low Schools and universities may open in one month.


Here in the Netherlands someone that works in the hospital is tested positive: Our government: - We don't need to check her co-workers because they don't have symptoms. - It cannot be transmitted through surfaces - Masks are useless So there aren't any right measures.

[IChingUChing]

This series of talks with Chris Martenson of Peak Prosperity are good regarding the potential/probable economic consequences of what's happening. There will be a "what to do to prepare" video coming as well:

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[Tomkoyote]

update: And how far will TPTB go to make vaccinations mandatory, the perfect weapon to kill off as many people as possible as quickly as possible?
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Vaccination and cytokine storm
https://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1467299#i1

[IChingUChing]

Yesterday there was a good interview with Dr John Campbell on Dr Paul Cottrell's channel. The Paul Cottrell channel is apparently one of the main channels people are watching for info on the virus as well as Peak Prosperity, Dr John Campbell and the channel Bill Ryan mentioned Box...something (sorry forgotten the name).

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[Pam]

I watched this video from Dr John Bergman today. I haven't watched him before. I find it good that he also mentions the potential socio-political implications of whats happening:

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BUMP. I admire Dr. Bergman so much and this is a wonderful balanced approach as to why and what is happening here. Well worth the 13 minutes to listen to this. Highly recommended.

[Did You See Them]

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So the mouthpiece of "Global Catastrophe" (Greta Thunberg ) "called" all our "UK Liberal kids" by the thousands ( who a hell of a lot of only came back from half term holiday after skiing in Italy with their schools last week !) to all meet up from across the country in Bristol to stand side by side shouting and spitting "How dare you !" and then all go back home this evening to the four corners of "our" land - all in the name of saving the planet !

How ? - By potentially helping the global spread of Covid -19 ?

WHAT AN IMBECILE.
WHY WASN'T THIS STOPPED ?

PS - Can you replace the grass please !

[Mypos]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER3Q-JhXsAAh5ep?format=jpg&name=large

So the mouthpiece of "Global Catastrophe" (Greta Thunberg ) "called" all our "UK Liberal kids" by the thousands ( who a hell of a lot of only came back from half term holiday after skiing in Italy with their schools last week !) to all meet up from across the country in Bristol to stand side by side shouting and spitting "How dare you !" and then all go back home this evening to the four corners of "our" land - all in the name of saving the planet !

How ? - By potentially helping the global spread of Covid -19 ?

WHAT AN IMBECILE.
WHY WASN'T THIS STOPPED ?

PS - Can you replace the grass please !

Why so much hate against Greta Thunberg? She is just a kid who thinks she is doing a good thing. And she is not doing such a bad thing. Focus your anger on the right persons please!

[Did You See Them]

I'm not having a go at her cause - just her timing - cant you see the foolishness being shown here amidst an outbreak the same day the Swiss announce a ban of meetings of over a thousand.
Covid-19 has not yet (hopefully) taken hold here - LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY !
A few weeks of sitting at home talking to each other rather than sitting in pubs and football stadiums texting each other.

I would also ask that at future events she asks the attendees to take a pocketful of grass seed - even if just for brownie points.

[ExomatrixTV]

Democrats EXPOSED Lying About Trump And Coronavirus For Political Points, Disgusting:
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[muxfolder]

I just heard that two of my friends had been sick for 2 weeks after an international downhill skating event here in Finland (Rautalampi to be exact). So I was thinking... Yep, it's already here and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it anymore. The funniest thing is nobody seems to give a flying f*ck if it was this exact virus or not. No one's been tested at all and the official narrative by our government seems to be that we should 1) avoid coughing people 2) wash our hands 3) don't worry. There was also this quite unusual incident couple of days ago when someone had fever on a train. That person was traveling from Helsinki to Jyväskylä and had been singled out as a potential carrier. After that the whole train was being disinfected, the patient was tested and that turned out to be a common flu. So, I think Finland haswelcomed this virus by doing nothing at all to fight against it. It's hard to say what we're up against but I guess we're about to find out.

[Gracy]

Democrats EXPOSED Lying About Trump And Coronavirus For Political Points, Disgusting:
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I hate to see ANY important possible life and death event politicized like this. And Tim Poole is darn well smart enough to know better.

Yes, of course the US democrats are taking their fair share of political hide out of Trump; but on the other hand, Trump couldn't resist the temptation during his recent live press conference on COVID-19 to not only continuously brag on himself, but take his own political potshots as well during the Q&A portion with reporters.

IMO attempting to score political points over this is inexcusable from either side of American politics, shameful even before the eyes of the world....

[Delight]

The news from China

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[RogeRio]

EARLY PHYLOGENETIC ESTIMATE OF THE EFFECTIVE REPRODUCTION NUMBER OF SARS-CoV-2 (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jmv.25723)

the researchers Gianguglielmo Zehender, Alessia Lai, Annalisa Bergnal, Carla Acciarri and Massimo Galli, from the University of Milan Studies, published an article about the new coronavirus in the Journal of Medical Virology. The detailed results of their investigation were sent to the WHO

Through an epidemiological-molecular study of 52 virus genomes already sequenced, they concluded that the origin of the epidemic can be dated between the second half of October and the first half of November 2019. That is, a few weeks before the first cases of “mysterious pneumonia” in China.

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Gracie May I hear you. And disgusted with the political reality at hand. What makes us all disgusted with it is why we are all not politicians.
Politics is dirty , and antithetical to truth. Could you live that way? probably not, nor could I.
But seems we need them and they need to play this game to win and gain the power they seek. So If Im going side with a liar, its a liar I can recognize. Trump is an outsider, an irritant and a wild card. And a liar I can recognize. He may be a liar , but he 's my liar. And Ill go with him rather than these two faced pretentious scoundrels . And thats coming from a life long anti war , liberal democrat .
Were in a shift, a change. No fear!

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I watched this video from Dr John Bergman today. I haven't watched him before. I find it good that he also mentions the potential socio-political implications of whats happening:

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BUMP. I admire Dr. Bergman so much and this is a wonderful balanced approach as to why and what is happening here. Well worth the 13 minutes to listen to this. Highly recommended.

This is such a great video.

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Another prediction (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336668&viewfull=1#post1336668). (But a very tentative one.)

6a) I now think we may be on a timeline, or hovering/flickering near one, in which Trump will not be re-elected this year. That changed for me this morning when I took a really deep (subjective) look.

Late last year before there was any reporting of Coronavirus in the media, I had dowsed just for fun as to whether Donald Trump would be reelected. And the result was definite yes. For what it's worth, just today, I decided to dowse for the same question; and the result is definite no.

When the impeachment process was just getting started, I dowsed as to whether he would be impeached. The result was that he would not be successfully impeached.

With the Coronavirus as dangerous and perhaps mutating constantly, many current leaders of nations may not be reelected or remain in power. It has and will stress test so many fundamental aspects of our global infrastructures that most of us take for granted and accept as given.

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5G and the China epidemic
by Jon Rappoport
February 28, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/02/28/5g-and-the-china-epidemic/

"When a momentous event occurs, people weigh in. One person says, ‘X is the cause.’ Another says, ‘No, Y is the cause.’ Is it possible that X and Y are both causing the event? Of course. But people have a tendency to aim for one and only one explanation. This is a psychological factor that has nothing to do with the truth. If a person is starving and also going without water, is there only one reason for his illness? Both causes together are creating a dire situation. In the current “epidemic,” the combination of deadly air pollution in Chinese cities, and the rollout of 5G technology, could both be operating with horrific effect.

Here is a typical standard definition of 5G, from the industry: “5G is the 5th generation mobile network. It will take a much larger role than previous generations. 5G will elevate the mobile network to not only interconnect people, but also interconnect and control machines, objects, and devices. It will deliver new levels of performance and efficiency that will empower new user experiences and connect new industries.” (Qualcom.com)

Several petitions have circulated, with the aim of stopping 5G deployment altogether. From principia-scientific.org, here is an excerpt from one petition, which is claimed to have 26,000 scientists as signatories:

“We the undersigned scientists, doctors, environmental organizations and citizens from (__) countries, urgently call for a halt to the deployment of the 5G (fifth generation) wireless network, including 5G from space satellites. 5G will massively increase exposure to radio frequency (RF) radiation on top of the 2G, 3G and 4G networks for telecommunications already in place. RF radiation has been proven harmful for humans and the environment. The deployment of 5G constitutes an experiment on humanity and the environment that is defined as a crime under international law.”

“Telecommunications companies worldwide, with the support of governments, are poised within the next two years to roll out the fifth-generation wireless network (5G). This is set to deliver what is acknowledged to be unprecedented societal change on a global scale. We will have ‘smart’ homes, ‘smart’ businesses, ‘smart’ highways, ‘smart’ cities and self-driving cars. Virtually everything we own and buy, from refrigerators and washing machines to milk cartons, hairbrushes and infants’ diapers, will contain antennas and microchips and will be connected wirelessly to the Internet. Every person on Earth will have instant access to super-high-speed, low- latency wireless communications from any point on the planet, even in rainforests, mid-ocean and the Antarctic.”

“What is not widely acknowledged is that this will also result in unprecedented environmental change on a global scale. The planned density of radio frequency transmitters is impossible to envisage. In addition to millions of new 5G base stations on Earth and 20,000 new satellites in space, 200 billion transmitting objects, according to estimates, will be part of the Internet of Things by 2020, and one trillion objects a few years later. Commercial 5G at lower frequencies and slower speeds was deployed in Qatar, Finland and Estonia in mid-2018. The rollout of 5G at extremely high (millimetre wave) frequencies is planned to begin at the end of 2018.”

“Despite widespread denial, the evidence that radio frequency (RF) radiation is harmful to life is already overwhelming. The accumulated clinical evidence of sick and injured human beings, experimental evidence of damage to DNA, cells and organ systems in a wide variety of plants and animals, and epidemiological evidence that the major diseases of modern civilization—cancer, heart disease and diabetes—are in large part caused by electromagnetic pollution, forms a literature base of well over 10,000 peer-reviewed studies.”

“If the telecommunications industry’s plans for 5G come to fruition, no person, no animal, no bird, no insect and no plant on Earth will be able to avoid exposure, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, to levels of RF radiation that are tens to hundreds of times greater than what exists today, without any possibility of escape anywhere on the planet. These 5G plans threaten to provoke serious, irreversible effects on humans and permanent damage to all of the Earth’s ecosystems.”

Because 5G signal transmissions can only move, with useful accuracy, across very short distances, you see the reference, in the petition, to millions of base relay stations that will be built around the world. I would say MANY millions, if not billions. They will be positioned on light poles, on buildings, on fences, on all sorts of structures. Coming soon to your neighborhood; perhaps to the sidewalk right outside your house or apartment building.

And eventually, when tiny nanomachines (sensors) are installed in the body to report, in real time, on physical changes, and diagnose diseases, you’ll have your very own internal 5G transmitter. Will wonders never cease?

A number of independent researchers have attributed the so-called “epidemic” effects in China to the rollout of harmful 5G technology.

I have written and published several backgrounders on 5G, and I’m printing excerpts at end of this piece.

The first issue is: how much 5G is currently up and running in major Chinese cities? And an allied question: how much of China’s 5G is operating at the 60HGz frequency band—which appears to be the most harmful to health?

Here is a statement from lightreading.com, dated February 24 of this year. It combines prediction with report: “China Unicom and its rollout partner China Telecom agreed at a special conference last Thursday to speed up their 5G buildout.”

“The two telcos, which last year struck an agreement to jointly build and share their 5G networks, committed to deploying 250,000 base stations by the end of the third quarter – one quarter ahead of schedule…”

“In the first half of 2020 they expect to roll out 100,000 base stations in 47 cities, China Security Times reported.”

“As of February 20, the two operators had put into service 64,000 5G base stations nationwide.”

What is a base station? The term seems to apply to both small and large relay installations for passing along 5G transmissions. A small station might be the size of a shoe box attached to a light pole. It might be much, much larger, a hub containing many antennae.

For the moment, let’s assume the base stations referred to in the above article are a combination of large and small installations. Both types would be necessary to launch an extensive 5G network.

64,000 5G base stations currently up and running in all of China might not seem like a very big number. But it could be a big number, if only a limited number of cities are hosting these stations. And perhaps other telecom companies are very active, and perhaps they have installed more stations.

How much 5G is currently deployed in Wuhan, which is said to be the initial Chinese center for 5G deployment? Wuhan, of course, has been called “the epicenter of the coronavirus epidemic.” If 2018 and 2019 5G predictions are close to accurate, the answer would be: a lot.

Any significant deployment of 5G in Chinese cities can create human damage. And of course, in order to hide this damage, the cover story of THE VIRUS would be invoked. “Don’t blame our corporate 5G, or try to derail the hundreds of billions of dollars immediately coming our way. It’s the coronavirus. Salute the virus.”

One VERY serious claim: when 5G employs a frequency band at 60GHz, disruption in oxygen molecules occurs—and the crucial ability of hemoglobin to pick up oxygen and transport it throughout the body is seriously impaired. I’ve consulted with a trusted source. So far, as I continue to look for more evidence, I believe this assessment is too convincing to dismiss. The lack of open debate among professionals is a sign that the vital issue is being pushed into the background.

All in all, given the available literature on 5G, in the face of stonewalling and the refusal of telecom industry professionals to step forward with honest reports, common sense tells us to look to Wuhan and other major Chinese cities, and their rollout of 5G, for understanding the human damage there, which is being falsely labeled: “THE VIRUS IS CAUSING IT.”

Globally, the ramifications of 5G are immense. Here are excerpts from earlier articles I wrote on the subject:

A few decades ago, a movement was started to create an interconnected power grid for the whole planet. We were told this would be the only way to avoid wasting huge amounts of electricity and, voila, bring all nations and all people into a modern 21st century.

But now, it’s a different story, a classic bait and switch. The bait was the promise of One Grid for all. The switch is what 5G will bring us:

100 billion or more NEW devices online, all connected to the Internet and the Cloud. What could be more wasteful? What could be more ridiculous? This is the opposite of sane energy use.

Who really cares whether his 5G-connected refrigerator keeps track of the food items inside it and orders new items when the supply dwindles? Who has to have a 5G driverless car that takes him to work? Who must have a 5G stove that senses what is being cooked and sets the temperature for four minutes? Who lives and who dies if a washing machine doesn’t measure how much soap is stored inside and doesn’t order new soap? Who is demanding a hundred devices in his home that spy on him and record his actions? Who needs to load a movie in two seconds?

With 5G, the ultimate goal is: every device in every home that uses energy will be “its own computer,” and the planetary grid will connect ALL these devices to a monitoring and regulating Energy Authority.

As Patrick Wood details in his classic, Technocracy Rising, that worldwide Energy Authority was the dream of the men who launched the Technocracy movement, in America, in the 1930s.

They set out the key requirements—which weren’t technically possible then, but are quite doable now: continuous real-time measuring of both energy production and energy use from one end of the planet to the other…

…So that both energy production and energy consumption could be controlled. “For the good of all,” of course.

5G is a technology for making this happen.

Globalists: “We’re promising a stunning long-range future of ‘automatic homes’, where everything is done for you. But really, that’s the cover story. Ultimately, we want to be able to measure every unit of energy used by every device in every home—and through AI, regulate how much energy we will let every individual consume, moment to moment. We control energy. We are the energy masters. If you want to run and operate and dominate the world, you control its energy.”

Terms and projects like smart grid, smart meters, sustainability, Agenda 21, smart cities, climate change—all this is Technocratic planning and justification for Rule through Energy.

The beginning of an actual rational plan for energy would start this way: DUMP 5G. Dump the whole plan of installing small transmitter-cells on buildings and homes and trees and lampposts and fences all over the planet. Forget it. Don’t bring 100 billion new devices online. Aside from the extreme health dangers, it’s ridiculously expensive. It’s on the order of saying we need hundred-foot robots standing on sidewalks washing the windows of office buildings.

If some movie star wants to install 30 generators on his property and have engineers build him an automatic home, where he can sit back, flip a switch, and have three androids carry him into his bathtub and wash him and dry him, fine. But planning a smart city completely interconnected by 5G to the Internet of Things? Who gave informed consent to that? Nobody.

A global Energy Authority, of course, is going to decide that a small African country needs to be given much more energy, while Germany or France or the US will have to sacrifice energy for the cause of social justice. But this is yet another con, because you won’t see governments cleaning up the contaminated water supplies of that small African country, or installing modern sanitation, or curtailing the forced movement of populations into poverty-stricken cities, or reclaiming vast farm land stolen by mega-corporations and giving that land back to local farmers.

The whole hidden purpose of an Energy Authority is control.

And because the Authority is Globalist and Technocratic, it aims to lower energy use in industrial nations and help wreck their economies, making it much easier to move in and take over those countries.

Who in his right mind would propose a wireless system that relies on many, many, many cells/transmitters placed closely to each other, all over the world? This system would be far more vulnerable to physical disruption than the present 4G.

You can find many articles that claim the US military must have 5G for their most advanced planes—and for their developing AI-controlled weapons. How does that work? Where will all the transmitter/cells be placed on the ground and in the air?? Something is missing here. Is there another version of 5G we’re not being told about? Is geoengineering of the atmosphere the means for tuning up space so 5G signals can be passed along without cells/transmitters?

Part of the US obsession to bring 5G online quickly stems from competition with China, which at the moment is in the lead on developing and exporting the technology. “If China has it, we have to have it sooner and better.” This attitude sidesteps the issue of why we must have 5G in the first place.

“Along with the 5G there is another thing coming – Internet of Things. If you look at it…the radiation level is going to increase tremendously and yet the industry is very excited about it…. they project 5G/IoT business to be a $7 trillion business.” — Prof. Girish Kumar, Professor at Electrical Engineering Department at IIT Bombay

And the consumer gets what? The ability to watch the reruns of Law&Order he’s already watching? His current TV reception isn’t good enough? The appliances in his home will all be connected to Internet and talk to each other and spy on him and record his energy use, in conjunction with smart meters, for the Greater Good.

Somehow, you really need your toaster connected to the Internet? You want that? You can’t get along without that?

UNDOUBTEDLY, A KEY PART OF THE 5G PROGRAM IS, EVENTUALLY, MASSIVE NUMBERS OF DRIVERLESS CARS ON ROADS ALL OVER THE WORLD. This is the plan. Cars are connected and talk to each other. Humans play no role in this. The Technocratic Internet of Things decides how, at any given moment, to regulate traffic flows. Humans learn to be passive.

AND WITH THE INTERNET OF THINGS, THE TECHNOCRATIC ELITE WILL BE ABLE TO INSTALL ENERGY-USE QUOTAS AND CEILINGS FOR EVERY PERSON AND EXERT TOP-DOWN CONTROL ON THE PLANET.

“Mr. Jones, this is the voice of your house speaking. You have reached the assigned limit of your energy use for the month. Try to get along without energy until next month’s allotment comes online…”

At electricsense.com (5/12/17), the fatuous “upside” of 5G is exposed: “5G and IoT [Internet of Things] promises to connect us in our homes, schools, workplaces, cities, parks and open spaces to over a trillion objects around the world. It promises cars that drive themselves, washing machines that order their own washing powder and softener plus of course super fast downloads and streaming.”

“According to Fortune.com 5G will support at least 100 billion devices and will be 10 to 100 times faster than current 4G technology. (4G was already about 10 times faster than 3G).”

“It’ll bring download speed up to 10 Gigabits per second. This would let us have an entire building of people send each other data in close to no time, thus improving productivity.”

electricsense.com: “5G will utilize smaller cell stations (and the technology of beamforming) that’ll scramble/unscramble and redirect packets of data on a no-interference path back to us. This could mean wireless antennas on every lamp post, utility pole, home and business throughout entire neighborhoods, towns and cities.”

“Thousands of studies link low-level wireless radio frequency radiation exposures to a long list of adverse biological effects, including:
* DNA single and double strand breaks
* oxidative damage
* disruption of cell metabolism
* increased blood brain barrier permeability
* melatonin reduction
* disruption to brain glucose metabolism
* generation of stress proteins”

“Given that 5G is set to utilize frequencies above and below existing frequency bands…But the tendency (it varies from country to country) is for 5G to utilize the higher frequency bands. Which brings its own particular concerns…”

“The biggest concern is how these new wavelengths will affect the skin. The human body has between two million to four million sweat ducts. Dr. Ben-Ishai of Hebrew University, Israel explains that our sweat ducts act like ‘an array of helical antennas when exposed to these wavelengths,’ meaning that we become more conductive. A recent New York study which experimented with 60GHz waves stated that ‘the analyses of penetration depth show that more than 90% of the transmitted power is absorbed in the epidermis and dermis layer’.”

“The effects of MMWs [millimeter waves] as studied by Dr. Yael Stein of Hebrew University is said to also cause humans physical pain as our nociceptors flare up in recognition of the wave as a damaging stimuli. So we’re looking at possibilities of many skin diseases and cancer as well as physical pain to our skin.”

“A 1994 study found that low level millimeter microwave radiation produced lens opacity in rats, which is linked to the production of cataracts.”

“An experiment conducted by the Medical Research Institute of Kanazawa Medical University found that 60GHz ‘millimeter-wave antennas can cause thermal injuries of varying types of levels. The thermal effects induced by millimeter waves can apparently penetrate below the surface of the eye’.”

“A 1992 Russian study found that frequencies in the range 53-78GHz (that which 5G proposes to use) impacted the heart rate variability (an indicator of stress) in rats. Another Russian study on frogs whose skin was exposed to MMWs found heart rate changes (arrhythmias).”

“5G will use pulsed millimeter waves to carry information. But as Dr. Joel Moskowitz points out, most 5G studies are misleading because they do not pulse the waves. This is important because research on microwaves already tells us how pulsed waves have more profound biological effects on our body compared to non-pulsed waves. Previous studies, for instance, show how pulse rates of the frequencies led to gene toxicity and DNA strand breaks.”

This is just a sampling of 5G’s disastrous effects. There is much more.

It’s full steam ahead for 5G on planet Earth.

Profits, top-down control, new technology—why bother with extensive health studies?

Once the effects on the population take hold, doctors will make diagnoses of DISEASES that seem to have nothing to do with 5G. They’ll call it Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, or a variety of blood disorders, they’ll look for THE VIRUS, and they’ll develop new drugs…the one cause they won’t find is 5G.

What do you know? I wrote that last item about THE VIRUS on March 26, 2018, long before the current “China epidemic” emerged."

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(If there is one good thing about the coronavirus is that it's making people pay more attention to 5G and vaccine dangers and how hard they are being pushed.)

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Speaking of Greta Thunberg and all the directed hate against the Western(ized) Nations for attempting to think about solutions on saving the environment. This video reveals that the pressure, blame and hate is completely misguided. Let this South African present to you the true culprit of this mess... not to say other countries are not to be blamed as well, but if you view it on a macro scale.

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[onevoice]

An article on a Fox station (https://www.fox5ny.com/news/run-on-toilet-paper-in-hawaii-over-coronavirus-fears) reports long lines at a Costco store in Hawaii.

Run on toilet paper in Hawaii over coronavirus fears

Published 13 hours agoUpdated 12 hours agoCoronavirusFOX 5 NY

Worries over coronavirus have people in Hawaii stocking up on supplies.

At a Costco store in Honolulu on Thursday, there was a long line of people just trying to buy toilet paper.

It took between 10 to 15 minutes just to get into the store's parking lot. Then there was a huge wait just to get into the store, with a line extending out of the door.

People across the island are continuing to rush to stores since the health department urged people to prepare an emergency supply kit for coronavirus.

Costco was limited toilet paper purchases to five packs per person.

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I know vitamin C retards viral replication. This makes sense that widespread vitamin C might stop the epidemic?


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Jan 26, 2020
Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus
by Andrew W. Saul, Editor
(OMNS January 26, 2020)
(http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n04.shtml)
The coronavirus pandemic can be dramatically slowed, or stopped, with the immediate widespread use of high doses of vitamin C. Physicians have demonstrated the powerful antiviral action of vitamin C for decades. There has been a lack of media coverage of this effective and successful approach against viruses in general, and coronavirus in particular.

It is very important to maximize the body's anti-oxidative capacity and natural immunity to prevent and minimize symptoms when a virus attacks the human body. The host environment is crucial. Preventing is obviously easier than treating severe illness. But treat serious illness seriously. Do not hesitate to seek medical attention. It is not an either-or choice. Vitamin C can be used right along with medicines when they are indicated.

"I have not seen any flu yet that was not cured or markedly ameliorated by massive doses of vitamin C."

(Robert F. Cathcart, MD)

The physicians of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service and the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine urge a nutrient-based method to prevent or minimize symptoms for future viral infection. The following inexpensive supplemental levels are recommended for adults; for children reduce these in proportion to body weight:

Vitamin C: 3,000 milligrams (or more) daily, in divided doses.

Vitamin D3: 2,000 International Units daily. (Start with 5,000 IU/day for two weeks, then reduce to 2,000)

Magnesium: 400 mg daily (in citrate, malate, chelate, or chloride form)

Zinc: 20 mg daily

Selenium: 100 mcg (micrograms) daily

Vitamin C [1], Vitamin D [2], magnesium [3], zinc [4], and selenium [5] have been shown to strengthen the immune system against viruses.

The basis for using high doses of vitamin C to prevent and combat virus-caused illness may be traced back to vitamin C's early success against polio, first reported in the late 1940s.[6] Many people are unaware, even surprised, to learn this. Further clinical evidence built up over the decades, leading to an anti-virus protocol published in 1980.[7]

It is important to remember that preventing and treating respiratory infections with large amounts of vitamin C is well established. Those who believe that vitamin C generally has merit, but massive doses are ineffective or somehow harmful, will do well to read the original papers for themselves. To dismiss the work of these doctors simply because they had success so long ago sidesteps a more important question: Why has the benefit of their clinical experience not been presented to the public by responsible governmental authorities, especially in the face of a viral pandemic?


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2. Vitamin D:

Cannell JJ, Vieth R, Umhau JC et al. (2006) Epidemic influenza and vitamin D. Epidemiol Infect. 134:1129-1140. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16959053.

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Liu MJ, Bao S, Gálvez-Peralta M, et al. (2013) ZIP8 regulates host defense through zinc-mediated inhibition of NF-кB. Cell Rep. 3:386-400. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23403290.

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Beck MA, Levander OA, Handy J. (2003) Selenium deficiency and viral infection. J Nutr. 133:1463S-1467S. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12730444.

Hoffmann PR, Berry MJ. (2008) The influence of selenium on immune responses. Mol Nutr Food Res. 52:1273-1280. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18384097.

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7. Cathcart RF. The method of determining proper doses of vitamin C for treatment of diseases by titrating to bowel tolerance. Australian Nurses J 1980, 9(4):9-13. http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html


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[EFO]

I just talked a few days ago with an Avalon member exactly about what Dr. John Bergman presenting in this short video.Same drill,same old,nothing new...

If you remember and pay attention,nothingness will happen. :)

I am NOT Afraid of the Corona Virus THT in 10 min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKJGKxsDhvo

[Sophocles]

I guess this is one of the ways you make sure there’s a community outbreak:

Ullevål Hospital, Oslo, Feb. 24th.:

A nurse returns to work from Italy on Monday morning.

Tuesday morning the nurse asks if there’s a need to take a corona test but is told ‘No, it’s not’ before going to work.

On Wednesday morning symptoms starts showing, the nurse then takes the test, goes home and learns it’s a positive.

During Monday and Tuesday this nurse was in contact with at least a hundred people (patients).


At a press conference the hospital director was asked if it would’ve been better if the nurse had self quarantined right away after returning... «We’ve just been following the advice given by the health authorities», he replied.


PS! 240 workers have been given a notice of layoff at Hapro Electrics (https://haproelectronics.no/), Jaren (Norway), due to lack of supplies from China.

[Justjane]

Democrats EXPOSED Lying About Trump And Coronavirus For Political Points, Disgusting:
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I had to stop watching when he said that there was a mad rush in Australia when our PM called coved-19 a pandemic. Neither of those things has actually happened.....

[Akasha]

I watched this video from Dr John Bergman today. I haven't watched him before. I find it good that he also mentions the potential socio-political implications of whats happening:

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This is certainly a helpful video, particularly with regard to his comments about the immune system. The reason I say this, and admittedly this is anecdotal, is that since starting a WFPBD (whole foods plant-based diet) 7.5 years ago I have had zero colds and only one bout of flu…….in 7.5 YEARS!!!
I used to get at least 1 or 2 colds a year and a bout of flu too…..every year…..without fail…..for 40 years.

So why is this happening? Well as Dr. Bergman says in his video, the immune system works in “almost mythical ways”, however in my view the reason is perhaps not so elusive.

A good friend of mine is a top level surgeon and we have had a good discussion on this topic. He didn't have much to offer in terms of possible reasons for my new found, bolstered immunity, but when I suggested that it may be correlated with going vegan because my anti-bodies were now not having to fight against so many other…..errr….well…..bodies (meat) or potential bodies (eggs) or bodily secretions (dairy), therefore leaving my immune system in a much better position to overcome things that mattered such as viruses and infections he thought it was quite a tangible theory.

Of course at this point in time, very little research has been done on the effects of a WFPBD on the immune system, but from my perspective, the jury’s in!

To be clear, all that changed was the removal of animal products from my diet. I didn't start eating more fruit and vegetables. The meat was replaced mainly by legumes and the dairy was replaced mainly by nut or grain-based milks: the same for cheeses.
Eggs were replaced with mashed chick-peas seasoned with kala namak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kala_namak) and vegan mayo'. This has to be tasted to be believed! Eggs for cooking were replaced with finely ground flax seed: 1 table spoon flax/3tablespoons water per egg.

So chew on that next time you are sneezing over your steak, glass of milk or omelette :)

[Akasha]

Unz.com (https://www.unz.com/) article speculating about the corona virus being a US bio-weapon. No doubt this has been covered already, but perhaps not in such comprehensive detail.

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus an Engineered Biological Attack on China by America for Geopolitical Advantage? - Metallicman • January 27, 2020 (https://www.unz.com/article/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage/)

[Bill Ryan]

Unz.com (https://www.unz.com/) article speculating about the corona virus being a US bio-weapon. No doubt this has been covered already, but perhaps not in such comprehensive detail.

Was the 2020 Wuhan Coronavirus an Engineered Biological Attack on China by America for Geopolitical Advantage? - Metallicman • January 27, 2020 (https://www.unz.com/article/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-engineered-biological-attack-on-china-by-america-for-geopolitical-advantage/)Yes, 'Metallicman' is quite an interesting enigma. There's a huge amount of information on his blog, and I'm slowly plowing my way through it.

He claims to be an ex-Majestic operative. I'm undecided at the moment whether he should be taken seriously. His piece about the coronavirus is just his strong opinion... he doesn't claim any inside information.

[Bill Ryan]

A DOG has just tested positive for Covid-19 in Hong Kong. (My comment: of course, it could also be an aspect of the unreliability of the test kits.)


https://scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3052775/coronavirus-dog-hong-kong-covid-19-patient-tests

Dog of Hong Kong Covid-19 patient tests ‘weak positive’ for virus

More tests will be conducted to see if the dog had really been infected with the virus or a result of environmental contamination of the dog’s mouth and nose.~~~

This is now being mentioned by a number of commentators. (The dog was tested again, and was positive again.)

But I was very slow on the uptake here — and I haven't yet seen anyone else asking this question either:

—> WHY would any medic suddenly decide to test a dog?

[Valerie Villars]

I heard Dr. Skip Bohm, Associate Director of the Tulane National Primate Research Center on the radio last week.

Guess which institution got a grant to "study" the virus?

Dr. Bohm assured the public it will take years to study and implement a test for the virus. A cure, I'm sure, will never come.

Meanwhile, all the fat cats get to sit back, collect paychecks and give each other accolades over their research papers. While we pay for it. What a sweet deal.

[Bill Ryan]

More about dogs. (This is getting a little surreal)


https://scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/3053026/careful-you-can-still-catch-coronavirus-your-dog-even-if-it-not

Careful, you can still catch the coronavirus from your dog even if it is not actually infected
29 Feb, 2020

An all-important and heartfelt disclaimer first for the sake of communal harmony and world peace: I have a soft spot for animals, especially dogs, and I’m constantly in awe of the incredible bonds people build with their pets, often beyond the scope of human relationships bogged down by the general inability of our species to offer unconditional love without an expiry date.

I have dog-owning friends and relatives who can be quite militant when it comes to protecting their beloved four-legged companions, so I understand why readers bombarded us with complaints when we published the first report (https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3052775/coronavirus-dog-hong-kong-covid-19-patient-tests) this week on a Covid-19 patient’s pet Pomeranian testing a “weak positive”, meaning traces of the coronavirus were found in its nasal and mouth swabs.

They were concerned about the story being sensationalised at a time of stigmatisation and mass hysteria, when there was no scientific evidence yet to suggest any dog had indeed been infected.

Yes, there is a crucial difference – for now. In the index case of the Pomeranian, it looks like we’re talking about environmental contamination rather than actual infection. The dog was carrying traces of the coronavirus on or in its nose and mouth – in the same way that a doorknob or a piece of tissue might be after an infected person touched it.

The World Health Organisation is now working with Hong Kong scientists to find out if that’s all it is, because otherwise it could raise the spectre of cross-species infection and take the crisis to another level. Local health authorities are worried enough to warn that mammalian pets must be quarantined for 14 days if their owners contract the coronavirus.

The government is now revisiting Hong Kong’s list of more than 90 confirmed cases of Covid-19 to ascertain how many of them involve households with pets that may well have to be tested. A bit late in the day, perhaps, but better safe than sorry.

In the meantime, healthy dog lovers who are in the habit of coochie-cooing and sharing food with their asymptomatic canine companions may want to ensure they are taking proper precautions. Your dog may not be infected per se, but it could pick up the coronavirus peripherally while sniffing around outside and surface-transfer it to you during one of those loving, licking, snout-to-face transactions.

Medical professionals are now advising you to watch where you walk your dogs and wash your hands after touching them. Further advice includes cleaning their paws after any excursion, or making them wear “shoes” that can be sanitised.

Of course, at the end of the day, pets are nowhere near as dangerous as humans when it comes to swanning around with the coronavirus.

That poor Pomeranian currently languishing in a quarantine pound is owned by a patient who has been identified as a well-heeled member of the Jockey Club who apparently went on a jolly jaunt all over Hong Kong during her two-week incubation period before she was hospitalised on February 24.

She made multiple visits to private clinics, ate in restaurants, went shopping, had her hair done in a five-star hotel salon, attended wedding gatherings, and prayed at a temple, among other activities.

She also owns a horse, but the Jockey Club has clarified that she did not visit its stable or attend its most recent race during the 14 days before her infection was confirmed.

What a relief the horses are safe, I suppose, but the same can’t be said of her close human contacts at home, as one of her domestic helpers is also being treated for the disease.

Speaking of domestic helpers, there was no similar outpouring of concern about spreading panic and stigmatisation when we reported the first confirmed case (https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3051421/hong-kongs-first-filipino-domestic-worker-infected) of a Filipino maid coming down with the coronavirus. Wouldn’t it be nice if people cared as much for their human helpers as their pets?

[Isserley]

Why so much hate against Greta Thunberg? She is just a kid who thinks she is doing a good thing. And she is not doing such a bad thing. Focus your anger on the right persons please!

I just don't like kids being manipulated to be the mouthpiece for adults that prop them up. Even if the message is good, even if they are right. Don't hide behind kids, don't use them for emotional appeals. The entire thing has become a charade and will only spur those already in support and turn off those already opposed.

This child does not understand the deeper issues nor complexities of politics and further serves to drive us toward soundbites, partisan politics, and anger. Getting in front of adults and saying "how dare you?" will not achieve anything. :facepalm:

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[ExomatrixTV]

Corona and 5G (https://www.facebook.com/groups/stop5g) update UK Nurse Kate, RGN Shemirani RGN INP the truth:
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Mike Pompeo Refuses To Answer If The Coronavirus Is a Hoax Or Not
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Trump on Media's Coronavirus Hysteria: "This is Their New Hoax":
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Corona Coschmona ~ FEAR 😂
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[onevoice]

Here is the latest Coronavirus Update 28 with pulmonologist Dr. Seheult of https://www.MedCram.com.

Topics include what health care professionals and other citizens can do to prevent COVID-19 spread, coronavirus case fatality rate based on patient age, and further discussion on coronavirus test kits.

He also explains the difference between the common surgical masks vs the N95 masks. As most of us here already know, the common surgical masks won't prevent the wearer from catch any virus such the Coronavirus being discussed. The N95 type of mask is the preferred mask when trying to prevent catching the Coronavirus.

At the 12:05 mark, he presents helpful advise about preventing Covid-19.

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[Caliban]

From https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/

The age-old theme of Order from Chaos advances front and center. From the chaos of a pandemic, new layers of control will be imposed—and received with open arms. How much Order? That’s always decided on the basis of an experiment. An exercise. A test. Which is what this COV operation is. Among the many questions the show runners are asking: how big an economic hit will nations, particularly, China, be willing to take; how much pushback, if any, will come from the citizenry; how tightly will medical researchers march on the narrow road of their preposterous fake findings without rebelling; under the auspices of emergency aid, how much money can be stolen, siphoned off, and placed into favored pockets; during the manufactured epidemic crisis, and in the aftermath, how much surveillance will citizens be willing to stomach; with what degree of acquiescence will people accept the announced end of the pandemic; how badly can we affect national treasuries?

And so on and so forth. All standard inquiries, forming the basis of confidential after-operation reports. Along with, of course, prospective estimates of what can be accomplished next time, in a new and improved experiment.

How thick can we slice the baloney next time?

[Bill Ryan]

There are 239 new cases in Italy, just reported. The total there is now over 1,100. That means, very unfortunately, that Europe — with no meaningful borders — now has a true epidemic, which will spread fast.

Ecuador, which has no 5G, now also has its first confirmed case, the second country in South America — someone who flew in from Italy on 14 Feb, two weeks ago, at that time without symptoms. They're now critically ill. (I may head into town later to buy a couple extra cans of tuna.)

[Sarah Rainsong]

First US death, in Washington State https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/29/coronavirus-outbreak-live-updates-oregon-case-italy-level-3-california/4904296002/

[onawah]

Speaking of dogs, see article by by Dr. Mercola, "Dogs' Rights Now Exceed Human Rights": http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106821-The-US-Vaccine-issue-is-more-than-just-about-the-Shots-it-is-about-totalitarian-tiptoe&p=1337819&viewfull=1#post1337819

More about dogs. (This is getting a little surreal)


Speaking of domestic helpers, there was no similar outpouring of concern about spreading panic and stigmatisation when we reported the first confirmed case (https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3051421/hong-kongs-first-filipino-domestic-worker-infected) of a Filipino maid coming down with the coronavirus. Wouldn’t it be nice if people cared as much for their human helpers as their pets?

[ExomatrixTV]

China Reports Catastrophic Data: PMIs Crash To Record Low, Confirming Coronavirus Collapse (https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-reports-catastrophic-data-manufacturing-non-mfg-pmis-crash-record-lows)

[James Newell]

This video was done in 2014 I believe, it is about a Rockefeller Foundation report "scenario" that was made in 2010, re what can/will happen as a pandemic such as this develops planet wide. About the only difference is the place of origin. I am pretty sure many will survive this "flu", I am more worried about the solutions they put in.

The Rockefeller Foundation and Corona Virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_RiO8yGZP


Sorry I just checked the link and they have already taken it down. Guess they don't like this kind of stuff getting out.
Here is an alternate link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8F6UN6eruU



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8F6UN6eruU

[Water33/6]

I've been saying all along... check out the post from Robert Morningstar, the article I posted here from the Chinese Intelligence Officer (Project Camelot , kerry has said the same and refers to his letter on her video and website)...some here have said it's bullocks, paraphrasing... but as you can see. Everything from the Chinese whistleblower has proven to be correct. The coronovirus which is the common flu is just a ruse! it's make to look like the bioweapon.... when in actuality, the Real Virus is the Bioweapon unleashed from Wuhan which has killed millions already according to the Chinese Billionare. Bodies burned by the millions.

They're using the confusion of symptoms all being similar with 5G, The Real Bioweapon, and the common flu, coronovirus. mass panic confusing doctors, patients so they can roll out the Mandatory Vaccines!

[Water33/6]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNicejptnGA

PROJECT CAMELOT

Chinese Intelligence Officer who blew the whistle.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNicejptnGA

[ExomatrixTV]

02-29-2020: Washington Governor declares State of Emergency (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-governor-declares-state-of-emergency-after-first-us-coronavirus-patient-dies) after first US Coronavirus Patient Dies.

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Coronavirus And The Global Orwellian State - David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast:

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[Bill Ryan]

I've been saying all along... check out the post from Robert Morningstar, the article I posted here from the Chinese Intelligence Officer (Project Camelot , kerry has said the same and refers to his letter on her video and website)...some here have said it's bullocks, paraphrasing... but as you can see. Everything from the Chinese whistleblower has proven to be correct. The coronovirus which is the common flu is just a ruse! it's make to look like the bioweapon.... when in actuality, the Real Virus is the Bioweapon unleashed from Wuhan which has killed millions already according to the Chinese Billionare. Bodies burned by the millions.

They're using the confusion of symptoms all being similar with 5G, The Real Bioweapon, and the common flu, coronovirus. mass panic confusing doctors, patients so they can roll out the Mandatory Vaccines!


There are a number of different coronaviruses. This one, which hasn't been seen before, is NOT the common flu.
There are many cases in places where there's no 5G.
Robert Morningstar, who's usually a methodical researcher, should have known better. It's someone's weak attempt at a hoax when hoaxes are the last thing we need.


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[Bill Ryan]

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And you can't catch 5G symptoms from another person.

[ExomatrixTV]

Coronavirus Update: 85,000 Cases, Iceland, Azerbaijan, Mexico, Amsterdam Cases, Stocks:
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[Water33/6]

I've been saying all along... check out the post from Robert Morningstar, the article I posted here from the Chinese Intelligence Officer (Project Camelot , kerry has said the same and refers to his letter on her video and website)...some here have said it's bullocks, paraphrasing... but as you can see. Everything from the Chinese whistleblower has proven to be correct. The coronovirus which is the common flu is just a ruse! it's make to look like the bioweapon.... when in actuality, the Real Virus is the Bioweapon unleashed from Wuhan which has killed millions already according to the Chinese Billionare. Bodies burned by the millions.

They're using the confusion of symptoms all being similar with 5G, The Real Bioweapon, and the common flu, coronovirus. mass panic confusing doctors, patients so they can roll out the Mandatory Vaccines!


There are a number of different coronaviruses. This one, which hasn't been seen before, is NOT the common flu.
There are many cases in places where there's no 5G.
Robert Morningstar, who's usually a methodical researcher, should have known better. It's someone's weak attempt at a hoax when hoaxes are the last thing we need.


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yes, of course there are many places without 5G.... it's not always one or the other. in some cases in china, s. korea, cruise ships, the 5G speeds up the effect of a virus,especially the bioweaponed virus. and in some cases it's just 5G and other cases it's just the coronavirus.
like i said before there are different viruses... one is a bioweapon virus created in a lab which is killing ppl and the other is a coronavirus as a cover for the bioweapon.

5G creates similar almost identical sypmtoms of coronavirus.
the other bioweaponed virus leaked, also causes similar symptoms but is deadly.

everyone is confused as to what is truly the bioweaponed virus and the reported cases are not the same virus.

how is this "Not on topic"?

[ExomatrixTV]

Willem Felderhof [quote]: “In The Shadow Of The Moon”(2019). Besides ridiculous over the top anti-white propaganda (the future of the humanity is threatened by white nationalists and affiliated militias), the rampant predictive programming in this movie is truly remarkable with regard to today's reality. To secure the future of humanity all members of white nationalist movements and patriotic affiliates who uphold and defend the Constitution need to be exterminated because they are planning a civil war. And guess what, the killing takes the form of a fatal virus injection the effects of which can be remotely triggered through time by electronic warfare technology. I recorded the following scene where the remote extermination method is tested on pigs. After the successful remote bio/electronic killing of the pigs the guy even says: “I think we may have a winner here. With the pairing of the CORONA-isotopes we can eventually be triggering disillusion from a future point in time.” Later in the movie it is explained that the virus is fed by anger and spread through fear. I did not see anything about this one on the internet but maybe I missed it. Watch 3 min video: [unquote]

https://www.facebook.com/100014343575480/videos/801933433628102/

[anandacate]

In Praise of the World Health Organization -- Fake Pandemic is OVER -- Final Analysis by Ex-Spy
Feb 28, 2020 (4:00)
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Let me start by praising the World Health Organization (WHO) for its totally sound decision to NOT declare a world pandemic. They are correct. This was a fake pandemic with the ultimate goal of forcing a universal vaccine with digital ID on everyone, starting with the European Union mandate led by France. As a former spy and top intelligence pioneer of holistic analytics and true cost economics I lay it out as I see it, and end by calling for a joint China-US investigation into the bio war, the 5G, the media war, the insider trading, and Bill Gates (my colleagues at NSA have every email, text, and call he has ever made, the President has not yet asked NSA for a total unmasking of all participants in the fake pandemic conspiracy). I made one mistake in this video: I forgot to mention pollution. That is the other contributing factor in China's high numbers of ill citizens. The fake pandemic is OVER. All that remains now is for justice to be done -- I hope that a proper investigation leads to the total dismantling of the Center for Disease Control (whose director Nancy Messonnier is a Never Trumper and the sister of Rod Rosenstein), and the indictment and incarceration of Bill Gates for crimes against humanity that include in the past the sterilization of millions without their informed consent. The revolution has started -- the truth at any cost lowers all other costs, and I am pleased to say that for the first time in my third years of wandering in the wilderness as an intelligence reformer, I feel that the truth finally has a chance to be heard by We the People.

[ExomatrixTV]

I see 5G & "4G LTE" BOTH using Beamforming 8x8 MIMO Military Grade Phased Array Antennas! (old 4G does not).

My take on 4G LTE & 5G connection to ANY possible virus is that our immune-system is cumulative attacked /disrupted/compromised via more and more multiple sources that Radiate Erratic PULSED Microwaves from amongst others: Bluetooth, DECT, Smartphones, Smart TVs, "Free WiFi Hot Spots" in the City, Cordless Headset, Cordless Microphone, Smart-meters, including Smart Gas Meter, Smart Water Meter, Smart LED Streetlights, Anything Smart in your Car, Baby-phone, Wireless Security Cameras, Smart Fridge and I can go on and on and on.

What if the Age of being "higher at risk" for a virus to become lethal will go lower and lower thus MORE people will die NOT because the virus is SOLELY responsible but HOW we live last 2 decades!

Thus when MORE people die is excactly what they need to boost the Mass Panic in Mainstream Media to push for "Mandatory Vaccines" (which is even worse for an already weakened immune system) and more Totalitarian Surveillance " Solutions" eroding our freedoms even further ... Having more control over the media & what you are allowed to do or not. Like Flying. "only vaccinated are allowed to fly" is one of their next-level Orwellian tactics.

So when people repeat "there is no 5G connection" in certain areas with Coronavirus are totally missing the point ... 5G is just an (extra) part of the whole CALLED: "anything wireless & smart" (IoT) = cumulative harmful erratic pulsed microwaves. Even the government admitted the rise of "mystery illnesses" is growing every year and they do NOT want to see the (possible) connection with what I just explained! I highly recommend a very recent interview done with Dr. Martin Pall (https://www.emfacts.com/2019/02/dr-martin-pall-putting-in-tens-of-millions-of-5g-antennae-without-a-single-biological-test-of-safety-has-got-to-be-about-the-stupidest-idea-anyone-has-had-in-the-history-of-the-world/) see video below:
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Corona and 5G update UK Nurse Kate, RGN Shemirani RGN INP the truth! (Brilliant!)
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cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Founder Fb.com/groups/Stop5G (http://Fb.com/groups/Stop5G)
Stop5G.net (http://Stop5G.net) & Twitter.com/Stop5G (http://Twitter.com/Stop5G)

[ExomatrixTV]

Coronavirus patient says disease 'not the scary thing (https://www.foxnews.com/media/coronavirus-patient-disease-not-scary) that everyone thinks it is':

[Delight]

one is a bioweapon virus created in a lab which is killing ppl and the other is a coronavirus as a cover for the bioweapon.

Replies in the comment section (and Steele responds to many) seem to almost deny this claim that this is a "fake pandemic".


Do you think more spontaneous cases will continue to pop up like in Italy to try and keep the world in fear Robert? The media will continue the fear mongering as long as they can with the renewed focus being on South Korea, Iran, and Italy. I honestly do not see an end to this false flag in sight, which is really worrying.

The one 'good' thing I hope that comes from this is the destruction of the fake Babylonian Money Magic System to make way for a financial reset, hoping that the few good people with power at the top can take advantage of the economic disruption that the virus is causing.. wishful thinking..

Robert David STEELE Vivas #UNRIG
1 day ago
You need to understand that most diagnoses are fake, this is a variation of the flu, the scary part is "function gain" bioengineered in to perhaps make it a new AIDS, but on balance the bio part failed, the 5G/radiation sickness part is now fully exposed, the information warfare part is partially exposed, it is now up to China to work with the US to identify everyone involved, and they can then be killed by the Chinese or put in jail by the Americans, I don't really care which. A massive justice bomb needs to go off here.

So this "bioweapon" is not the novel corona virus spreading apparently and often picked up only because there is a severe viral pneumonia? These cases are widespread and seem very dangerous to some and flu is not diagnosed. I am really agitated by the why this epicsode is splintering the mental sphere of common understanding. The main issue I have is where is the person with some practical advice to avoid the suspected end game of global lock down?

I think he is not "correct" here:


What is your impression of "paul cottrell", "dr Joseph Campbell", and "peak prosperity"? Are they misled, or are they operators ? Between the 3 of them, thousands of people are all worked up over this, and expect doom at any moment ...

Robert David STEELE Vivas #UNRIG
1 day ago
I do not pay attention to any of them. Anyone hyping this fake pandemic is either stupid or a traitor being bribed or blackmailed to spread falsehoods.

[Franny]

He's right, this is pretty interesting. Joseph Farrell posted this yesterday and includes a link to an Air Force document we might want to have in the library.

FEBRUARY 28, 2020

BIOWARFARE, POWDER, AND SIGNALS

There's been a lot of speculation out there about the connection between the corona virus and 5g. But a big thank you to G.L.R. who found this one, and it's a whopper-doozie. What he found was a declassified 42 page US Air Force document.

The work itself is a mind-numbing gut-wrenching summary of biowarfare modalities:

Biotechnology: Genetically Engineered Pathogens (https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a556597.pdf)

However, for those connecting the corona virus story to the 5G phenomenon, there's something quite interesting in it. Thus far, I've seen two basic approaches to this connection. One is that favored by Jon Rappoport, who sees the virus aspect of the story as a cover behind which the effects of other factors are being masked, which could include 5g. Indeed, the 5G parallels to the virus outbreaks is there for all to see: Wuhan and Milan, for example, are both places where 5G is in operation. The other approach, which I've blogged about earlier this week, is to connect the virus outbreak as a stimulation of disease via electromagnetic "templates" of the disease, perhaps in conjunction with an actual genetically engineered pathogen.

It's that latter idea that, in fact, one finds clearly outlined in the US Air Force document, on page 15 in the actual document, and page 26 if you're searching in the pdf file:


Stealth Viruses: The basic concept of this potential bioweapon is to “produce a tightly regulated, cryptic viral infection that can enter and spread in human cells using vectors” (similar to the gene therapy) and then stay dormant for a period of time until triggered by an internal or external signal. The signal then could stimulate the virus to cause severe damage to the system. Stealth viruses could also be tailored to secretly infect a targeted population for an extended period using the threat of activation to blackmail the target.

State of the Bioweapon: Stealth viruses just like the gene therapy, require a vector to be inserted in the body and lay dormant until a trigger mechanism is activated either internally or externally. Imagine having a cancer causing virus enter a human cell and lay dormant until an external signal triggers the disease. When the signal gets activated the cells become abnormal and could rapidly generate abnormal cell growth leading to a tumor and ultimately, death. Now, apply this concept to a population where an HIV virus gets disseminated within a target population. At a specific time chosen by the perpetrator, the signal would be triggered to harm an entire population all at once. Although this bioweapon is futuristic it is not improbable and deserves to be examined. (emphasis added)

The paper, in effect, outlines what many people are already speculating about 5G and the corona virus story. Combine this with a genetically-engineered pathogen designed to attack only certain populations - like the Chinese - and all it would take to "turn on the virus" would literally be for someone to turn on the "signal," and notably, if properly configured, the person turning on the signal may not even know he's turning on the virus.

Notably, this report is dated June, 2010, and the technologies referred to are "futuristic," but of course, by now they might be a reality. Consider only the state of technology at the beginning of World War Two compared to the technology at the end of it, and in much less time than a decade.

There's a hint, however, in this document that it might have been reality, and long before 2010 at that. Note the reference to HIV, and even more particularly, to sudden onset and rapidly spreading cancer. In reading this, I could not help but think of all those cases of key people in the position of knowledge, influence, or the ability to derail "certain projects and/or narratives," that came down suddenly with cancer, and died. I cannot help, for example, but think of Jack Ruby, notorious mob figure and murderer of Lee Harvey Oswald. Ruby, it will be recalled, even claimed that "they" had given him cancer and were killing him. And for those familiar with the research of Ed Haslam outlined in his book Dr Mary's Monkey, there's a further curious connection to consider in regard to this idea.

Dr. Mary Sherman hovers uneasily on the fringes of all the weird connections in the murder of President John F. Kennedy. In her day she was a well-known cancer oncologist, and, incidentally, one of those who at that time believed cancers were a virus, and a close colleague of Dr. Alton Ochsner and his clinic. Dr. Ochsner was the world-famous president of the American Cancer Society, but according to Mr. Haslam, he had a dark side in trying to weaponize cancer for the CIA, research in which Dr. Sherman was allegedly involved. She had access to the particle accelerator at Tulane University in New Orleans, and indeed, when she was found dead, she was found with her right arm simply burned - or disintegrated - away, as if she had suffered "death by particle accelerator."

Now why am I rehearsing all of this? It's about that "sudden onset cancer" hypothesis, and Jack Ruby's statements: I have to wonder if, in their covert researches, Drs. Ochsner and Sherman discovered that cancers could be activated, and/or accelerated, by exposure to certain types of radiation under special circumstances. After all, radiation was then, and is today, one of the means of treating cancers, but one might also imagine certain circumstances where it could cause, or activate and accelerate cancers. Certain occupations where long term exposure to radiation increases the likelihood of cancers are already known, and were known even in their day. So it requires no great leap of the imagination to see that the technique outlined in 2010 might in fact have been around for some time, and have been perfected to the extent that it was utilized in the stimulation and acceleration of other types of diseases.

See you on the flip side...

[onevoice]

The following article (https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-test) describes how CDC developed an initial flawed test for Covid-19, and then spent weeks to try to correct it.

Key Missteps at the CDC Have Set Back Its Ability to Detect the Potential Spread of Coronavirus

The CDC designed a flawed test for COVID-19, then took weeks to figure out a fix so state and local labs could use it. New York still doesn’t trust the test’s accuracy.

by Caroline Chen, Marshall Allen, Lexi Churchill and Isaac Arnsdorf Feb. 28, 12:13 a.m. EST

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As the highly infectious coronavirus jumped from China to country after country in January and February, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lost valuable weeks that could have been used to track its possible spread in the United States because it insisted upon devising its own test.

The federal agency shunned the World Health Organization test guidelines used by other countries and set out to create a more complicated test of its own that could identify a range of similar viruses. But when it was sent to labs across the country in the first week of February, it didn’t work as expected. The CDC test correctly identified COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus. But in all but a handful of state labs, it falsely flagged the presence of the other viruses in harmless samples.

As a result, until Wednesday the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration only allowed those state labs to use the test — a decision with potentially significant consequences. The lack of a reliable test prevented local officials from taking a crucial first step in coping with a possible outbreak — “surveillance testing” of hundreds of people in possible hotspots. Epidemiologists in other countries have used this sort of testing to track the spread of the disease before large numbers of people turn up at hospitals.

This story is based on interviews with state and local public health officials and scientists across the country, which, taken together, describe a frustrating, bewildering bureaucratic process that seemed at odds with the urgency of the growing threat. The CDC and Vice President Mike Pence’s office, which is coordinating the government’s response to the virus, did not respond to questions for this story. It’s unclear who in the government originally made the decision to design a more complicated test, or to depart from the WHO guidance.

“We’re weeks behind because we had this problem,” said Scott Becker, chief executive officer of the Association of Public Health Laboratories, which represents 100 state and local public laboratories. “We’re usually up-front and center and ready.”

The CDC announced on Feb. 14 (https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0214-covid-19-update.html.html) that surveillance testing would begin in five key cities, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Seattle. That effort has not yet begun.

On Wednesday, under pressure from health experts and public officials, the CDC and the FDA told labs they no longer had to worry about the portion of the test intended “for the universal detection (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/rt-pcr-detection-instructions.html) of SARS-like coronaviruses.” After three weeks of struggle, they could now use the test purely to check for the presence of COVID-19.

It remains unclear whether the CDC’s move on Wednesday will resolve all of the problems around the test. Some local labs have raised concerns about whether the CDC’s test is fully reliable for detecting COVID-19.

In New York, scientists at both the city’s and state’s laboratories have seen false positives even when following the CDC’s latest directions, according to a person familiar with their discussions.

“Testing for coronavirus is not available yet in New York City,” city Department of Health spokeswoman Stephanie Buhle said in an email late Thursday. “The kits that were sent to us have demonstrated performance issues and cannot be relied upon to provide an accurate result.”

Until the middle of this week, only the CDC and the six state labs — in Illinois, Idaho, Tennessee, California, Nevada and Nebraska — were testing patients for the virus, according to Peter Kyriacopoulos, APHL’s senior director of public policy. Now, as many more state and local labs are in the process of setting up the testing kits, this capacity is expected to increase rapidly.

So far, the United States has had only 15 confirmed cases, a dozen of them travel-related, according to the CDC. An additional 45 confirmed cases involve people returning to the U.S. having gotten sick abroad. But many public health experts and officials believe that without wider testing the true number of infected Americans remains hidden.

“The basic tenet of public health is to know the situation so you can deal with it appropriately,” said Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at the Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health. He noted that Guangdong, a province in China, conducted surveillance testing of 300,000 people (https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf) in fever clinics to find about 420 positive cases. Overall, Guangdong has more than 1,000 confirmed cases. “If you don’t look, you won’t find cases,” he said.

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A video monitor inside the California Department of Public Health showed the number of coronavirus cases around the world on Thursday. (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

Janet Hamilton, senior director of Policy and Science at Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists, said that with the virus spreading through multiple countries, “now is the time” for widespread surveillance testing.

“The disease,” she said, “is moving faster than the data.”

It remains to be seen what effect the delay in producing a working test will have on the health of Americans. If the United States dodges the rapidly spreading outbreaks now seen in Iran and South Korea, the impact will be negligible. But if it emerges that the disease is already circulating undetected in communities across the country, health officials will have missed a valuable chance to lessen the harm.

The need to have testing capacity distributed across local health departments became even more apparent Wednesday, when the CDC said it was investigating a case in California in which the patient may be the first infected in the United States without traveling to affected areas or known exposure to someone with the illness.

Doctors at the University of California, Davis Medical Center, where the patient is being treated, said testing was delayed for nearly a week because the patient didn’t fit restrictive federal criteria, which limits tests only to symptomatic patients who recently traveled to China.

“Upon admission, our team asked public health officials if this case could be COVID-19,” UC Davis said in a statement. UC Davis officials said because neither the California Department of Public Health nor Sacramento County could test for the virus, they asked the CDC to do so. But, the officials said, “since the patient did not fit the existing CDC criteria for COVID-19, a test was not immediately administered.”

After this case, and under pressure from public officials, the CDC broadened its guidelines Thursday for identifying suspected patients to include people who had traveled to Iran, Italy, Japan or South Korea.

The debate over whether federal, state and local officials should have already been engaged in widespread surveillance testing has become more heated as the virus has spread globally. The CDC had said the purpose of its five-city surveillance program was to provide the U.S. with an “early warning signal” to help direct its response. The cities were selected based on the likelihood that infection would be present, Hamilton said.

But Mark Pandori, director of the Nevada State Public Health Laboratory, which began offering testing on Feb.11, said surveillance testing may not be the best use of resources right now. “A lot of people look at lab tests like they are magic,” Pandori said. “But when you run lab tests, the more chances you have for getting false answers.”

There are other ways to expand the country’s testing capacity. Beyond the CDC and state labs, hospitals are also able to develop their own tests for diseases like COVID-19 and internally validate their effectiveness, with some oversight from the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. But because the CDC declared the virus a public health emergency, it triggered a set of federal rules that raises the bar for all tests, including those devised by local hospitals.

So now, hospitals must validate their tests with the FDA — even if they copied the CDC protocol exactly. Hospital lab directors say the FDA validation process is onerous and is wasting precious time when they could be testing in their local communities.

Alexander Greninger, an assistant professor in laboratory medicine at the University of Washington Medical Center, said after he submitted his COVID-19 test, which copies the CDC protocol, to the FDA, a reviewer asked him to prove that his test would not show a positive result for someone infected with the SARS coronavirus or the MERS coronavirus — an almost ridiculous challenge. The SARS virus, which appeared in November 2002, affected 26 countries, disappeared in mid-2003 and hasn’t been seen since. The MERS coronavirus primarily affects the Middle East, and the only two cases that have been recorded in the U.S., in 2014, were both imported.

There are labs that can create parts of a SARS virus, but the FDA’s recommended supplier of such materials said it would need one to two months to provide a sample, Greninger said. He spent two days on the phone making dozens of calls, scrambling to find a lab that would provide what he needed.

Greninger said the FDA was treating labs as if they were trying to make a commercially distributed product. “I think it makes sense to have this regulation,’’ he said, when “you’re going to sell 100,000 widgets across the U.S. That’s not who we are.”

Commercial manufacturers are working to mass-produce coronavirus tests, but there isn’t a precise timeline for their release. The drug company Cepheid, based in California, is targeting the second quarter of this year for the release of its test, a company spokeswoman said in an email. Massachusetts-based Hologic didn’t have an estimated release date for its test, a company spokesman said. “We’re responding to the public health need as rapidly as possible,” the spokesman said.

Update, Feb. 29, 2020: On Saturday, the FDA announced an “accelerated policy … to achieve more rapid testing capacity in the United States,” allowing academic hospital labs capable of performing high-quality testing to develop and begin using their own tests to detect COVID-19. Before now, hospital labs weren’t sent test kits by the CDC and the FDA required an extensive review process even if the hospitals had internally validated their tests. Under the new policy, the FDA review will still be required, but labs will be able to start using their diagnostics once they are internally validated. On Saturday, officials in Oregon and Washington state said they had found new cases of COVID-19 that appeared to be instances of “community spread,” where the source of infection is unknown.

Correction, Feb. 28, 2020: This story originally misstated the number of positive COVID-19 cases found via surveillance testing in the Chinese province of Guangdong. The testing found 420 positive cases, not 1,000.

Filed under: Health Care (https://www.propublica.org/topics/healthcare)

[Jean-Luc]

Time for a change of mind frame ?


Henry Makov's take on the issue and referencing Bill's talk on the Anglo-Saxon mission.

John Rapoport maybe not that wrong after all.

Orwellian dystopian world & double-speak in full gear.


Here's is Makov's article :
https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/02/coronavirus-con-vaccinate-depopulate-chip.html

Coronavirus Con: Vaccinate, Depopulate & Chip Mankind

February 29, 2020
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Vaccine manufacturers, govt agencies and financial institutions are embedded in a revolving door of a vast industry that is constantly pushing the 'pandemic' button in the hope of a world wide vaccine programme.

Compiled by JL
(largely from Makia Freeman)
(henrymakow.com)

Here's how this con job goes and although it repeats itself under different names, year after year (Corona, HIV, AIDS, SARS, Ebola, Zika, Mad cow etc etc.)

Most of the uninformed public react as programmed, simply because fear is PROVEN to trigger a narrowing of the mind, a lowering of IQ, a stimulation of the child ego (that looks for an adult to save it) and a reflexive obedience toward perceived authority.


The con job goes like this.

Step 1) Poison the population purposely to create disease that does not and would never occur naturally.

Step 2) Portray the purposely created disease as being caused by something invisible, outside the realm of control or knowledge of the average person.

Step 3) Create a toxic vaccine or medication that was always intended to send the population to an early grave.

Step 4) Repeat as many times as possible upon an uninformed population because killing a population this way (the art of having people line up to kill themselves with poison......known as a "soft kill" method) is the only legal way to make sure such eugenic operations can be executed on mass and in plain sight.


GAVI (Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunizations)

GAVI, partly funded by the UK Govt has many pharma industry representatives on its governing board. This group which sets the price for vaccines and stimulates demand.

The AMC is a special financing mechanism set up in 2007 by Gavi and six donors (Italy, the United Kingdom, Canada, the Russian Federation, Norway, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation) to stimulate development of vaccines.

It is clear that vaccine manufacturers, govt agencies and financial institutions are embedded in a revolving door of a vast industry that is constantly pushing the 'pandemic' button in the hope of a world wide vaccine programme.
The corruption of this agency is well documented. (https://www.modernghana.com/news/858966/the-corrupt-unbalanced-british-healthcare-system.html)

In the meantime, we have the The ID2020 Alliance (https://id2020.org/alliance).

Launched with an initial grant from the Rockefeller Foundation.

Bill Gates is a founding partner in a company called the ID2020 Alliance, and its goal is to give every human being on earth a digital ID.

How do they plan on accomplishing this feat? By combining mandatory vaccinations (https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines) with implantable microchips.

The ID2020 Alliance is a digital identity program that aims to "leverage immunization" as a means of inserting tiny microchips into people's bodies. In collaboration with GAVI.



Bill GATES is part owner of the coronavirus vaccine via Pilbright Institute. He helped to create a pandemic exercise with the Chinese CDC just a few month before the reported 'outbreak' using the same virus.
He is involved with CEPI who are funding the vaccine manufacture, GAVI who sets the price for the vaccine and ID2020 who will use vaccines to microchip the public in line with the UN,s agenda 20/30.

The Pilbright Institute which has a patent for the coronavirus has links to Bill Gates and Dr Adrian Hill of the Jenner Institute.

Hll is the man who was involved in Ebola vaccine studies!


Innovate UK , the agency pushing the smart/5G agenda, is also linked to Pilbright and fund trials (https://innovateuk.blog.gov.uk/2018/12/03/dramatic-increase-in-the-uk-vaccine-capability/?fbclid=IwAR1dIWmMDTuPLJWXu3ERR-hDk6W1Mq0GafFsj-yqJ8GjaoK6YHryJbmggJY).


THE CHINA CORONAVIRUS 5G CONNECTION

Various independent researchers around the web, for around 2-3 weeks now, have highlighted the coronavirus-5G link despite Google (as the self-appointed NWO Censor-in-Chief) is doing its best to hide and scrub all search results showing the connection.

The coronavirus 5G connection doesn't mean the bioweapons connection is false (it's not a case of either-or), but rather broadens the scope of the entire event.Wuhan was one of the test cities chosen for China 5G rollout (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7LorRFI8tc); 5G went live there on October 31st, 2019, almost exactly 2 months before the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak began.

Meanwhile, many scientific documents on the health effects of 5G have verified that it causes flu-like symptoms. 5G can exacerbate or cause the kind of illness you are attributing to the new virus. The rabbit hole is deep so let's take a dive.

Now Huawei is pretending 5-G is some kind of cure (https://www.gizchina.com/2020/01/26/huawei-coronavirus-5g-base-stations/?fbclid=IwAR3KLVror7lX3u_S5HDOv1fWTKM7ubOYlTdrfqzpG513brurzBf6YcZWnP8).

5-G IS A DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPON

For the deeper background to 5G, read Makia Freeman's 2017 article 5G and IoT: Total Technological Control Grid Being Rolled Out Fast. Many concerned citizens, scientist and even governmental officials are becoming aware of the danger of 5G. It has already been banned in many places worldwide (https://smombiegate.org/list-of-cities-towns-councils-and-countries-that-have-banned-5g/), such as Brussels, the Netherlands and parts of Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, Germany, the UK, the USA and Australia.

After all, 5G is not just the next generation of mobile connectivity after 4G; it is a radical and entirely new type of technology - a military technology used on the battlefield that is now being 'deployed' (military term) in the civilian realm.

It is phased array weaponry being sold and disguised as primarily a communications system when the frequency bands it uses (24GHz - 100+GHz including MMW [millimeter waves]) are the very same ones used in Active Denial Systems, i.e. crowd control. Even mainstream Wikipedia describes Active Denial Systems as directed energy weaponry; it disperses crowds by firing energy at them, causing immediate and intense pain, including a sensation of the skin burning.

Remember, directed energy weapons (DEW) are behind the fall of the Twin Towers on 9/11 and the fake Californian 'wildfires'. (https://thefreedomarticles.com/dew-laser-weapons-used-against-people/)


DEW & Laser Weapons are Being Used Against the American People (https://thefreedomarticles.com/dew-laser-weapons-used-against-people/)
DEW (Directed Energy Weapons) are no longer the stuff of conspiracy theory. In the last few months in the US, there have been a number of incidents where DEW, laser weapons and perhaps other high-tech energy weapons have been openly deployed against the American people.
thefreedomarticles.com

CONCLUSION

This pandemic is being used to forward Agenda 20/30, the UN's policy of complete control over the world population. Of course, this is sugar coated. (Transforming Our World)

This Agenda is a plan of action for people, planet and prosperity. It also seeks to strengthen universal peace in larger freedom. We recognize that eradicating poverty in all its forms and dimensions, including extreme poverty, is the greatest global challenge and an indispensable requirement for sustainable development. All countries and all stakeholders, acting in collaborative partnership, will implement this plan. We are resolved to free the human race from the tyranny of poverty and want and to heal and secure our planet.

We'll give Dave Work, the last word. In 2018 he wrote:

Agenda 2030 is the blueprint for herding the "sheeple" in this last leg of the journey towards the "New World Order."

Once again, the "Hegelian Dialectic" is being used. If our psychopathic controllers told us we will be slaves with no possessions or freedoms and even reproduction will be controlled , would we accept that? Of course not! So they use sugarcoated "doublespeak" to make us believe that Agenda 2030 is to end poverty and hunger. [Now disease is the pretext.]

Unfortunately for us normal folks, a few thousand psychopaths cannot possibly control seven billion people, so depopulation is an important part of the agenda. According to their own Georgia Guidestones, the ideal (controllable) population is about 500 million, so a lot of us need to "leave" the planet before they can have things their way!

Ending poverty and hunger? The powerful and greedy bullies who created Agenda 2030 are hoarding vast unimaginable amounts of wealth and could easily solve world poverty (if they wanted to) and still have plenty left over!

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First Comment from Andrew

Past Psychological Operations (PSYOPS) EXACTLY like Covid-19 were Zika, Ebola, SARS, MERS, H1N, West Nile Virus, Avian (bird) Flu, Swine Flu, etc...

The simple cold viruses (SARS, MERS) fizzled out in the spring (just as Covid-19 will in a few weeks).

What I find alarming is the loss of our Civil Rights under cover of one of these PANIC PARTY PsyOps. In 2005, President George W. Bush asked, "If we had an outbreak somewhere in the United States, do we not then quarantine that part of the country? And how do you, then, enforce a quarantine?"

At that time, the US Military was forbidden from undertaking law enforcement duties by Federal Posse Comitatus Act. Bush's wish became law in Fiscal Year 2007 with (H.R. 5122.ENR), (Section 1076) which allows the President to use the US Military to "restore public order and enforce Federal law" for "natural disaster, epidemic", or other public health emergency, terrorist attack or "domestic violence incident." That effectively circumvented Posse Comitatus Act on 1878.

Bush signed this into law one afternoon on National Public Radio. The public promptly forgot about it. BUT Barack Obama picked up where Bush left off

On Aug 1st 2014, Obama enhanced Bush's 2003-2005 Executive Order 13295, titled Revised List of Quarantinable Communicable Diseases. Where Bush had specified only SARS and Avian (bird) Flu, Obama added the words, " severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person". That can potentially mean anything that WHO and/or CDC say is a threat. Who appoints the head of the CDC? The US President appoints head of CDC.

On the very same day in 2009, New York City held its "largest ever" bio-terror response drill which raised the possibility that "terrorists" might release deadly viruses into the environment.
With Covid-19, the government is adding another arrow in their quiver, should they need to enact martial law.

Thankfully The White House isn't buying it. Trump barred a top health expert from speaking freely about the coronavirus. It's one of many ways the administration has muzzled scientists.


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Preview YouTube video 5G#Launches In "Wuhan" Weeks Before #Coronavirus#Outbreak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7LorRFI8tc&authuser=0)

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Other post of Makov referencing the Anglo-Saxon mission

Insider -- NWO Scenario Includes Biowarfare & Nuclear War

February 28, 2020


If this 2010 video is accurate, we are in big trouble. "China will "catch a cold" they said. After that, It will actually spread across the world to the West as well. Panic. Military lockdown. No food, no gas, telecommunication goes down etc..."

Plans for Pike's WW3 are in Place

The letter, excerpted below, is from a transcript of this video. It was sent in March 2010 to Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan of Project Camelot.

(Disclaimer- This sounds plausible but I leave it to the reader to decide. It does confirm what I have always suspected, Iran has nuclear weapons.)


"The Anglo-Saxon Mission"

The writer is a UK insider. He is a military veteran who later worked in the "City of London."


Excerpt by henrymakow.com


In late 2005 I attended what I thought was a normal three x monthly City security & financial planning meeting since the usual crowd were emailed listed for attendance.

The meeting turned out to be something entirely different. To my surprise (shock) this was very much a Masonic level meeting instead. No notes taken - word of mouth only.

At the meeting mention was made that the Timeline for war against Iran was being delayed to a point where other contingencies had to be put in place.

Contingencies were then mentioned, in quite a matter of fact fashion.

First was the Israeli reluctance to strike and provoke Iran into armed action and that Israel promised that action would soon take place in order to provoke the required Iranian military response. (Israel soon after attacked Iranian backed Hizbollah bases in the Lebanon)

That was my first surprise. The second was mention of Japanese reluctance to create havoc within the fledging Chinese financial sectors. China was growing too quickly with the Chinese military the being main beneficiary.

The third surprise was open talk about the use of biological weapons - when they would be used since timing appeared to be crucial. Then there was more talk centred on how Iran must be engaged militarily in order to provoke the desired military response from China. The talk continued about how long conventional weapons should be used, knowing they would be hopeless against a Chinese military onslaught in the region.


ESTABLISHED BLUEPRINT


It soon transpired that they were not making decisions. They were discussing something that had already been planned and so they were simply sharing that information between themselves. It also became clear that the central issue of the meeting was when the 'balloon' would go up.

Further issues dealt with finances, the moving of resources and protection of assets and the central control of these resources: the bringing in outlying assets. I recall the chain/sequence of events, which ran something like this:

They needed either the Iranians or the Chinese to be guilty of first-use nuclear weapons in order to justify the next stage. (My information shows that the Iranians do indeed have a tactical nuclear capability.) The next stage would be a measured regional nuclear response, enough to cause an immediate ceasefire. This ceasefire would create the time needed to put in place unified totalitarian western governments.

Thereafter, or concurrent, biological weapons would be used against the Chinese population. This would then set off another chain of events that would collapse the whole Chinese political and social infrastructure.

This was mentioned as: Disease, followed by wide spread food shortages, followed by mass starvation. Somehow, this would then cause the Chinese military to attack eastern Russia. The biological agents were described as being flu like and would spread like wild fire. It shocks and sickens me to describe these events. It shocks me even more to know that plausible events are being manipulated to cause the extinction of a whole part of the human race.

The evidence was clear. There does indeed exist a Timeline for future conflict that this country, the UK, was using this as some sort of world government business plan and many millions would die as a result. The plan is openly described in these circles as the Anglo Saxon Mission.

For those living in the UK
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Interestingly, the meeting was attended by a former Commissioner for Police (name withheld). His role, it became clear, is gaining enough legislation to empower the private security industry to enable him to be head of what he himself called: 'The Greater Policing Community' to control dissidence within the UK population.

Few people realize, that, at this moment, there are some 500.000 people working in the UK private security industry. Fewer still realize this industry has already been empowered through government backed public control policing powers, linked to the Public Order Act. This Parliamentary Act of police empowerment is currently being extended to include more powers such a direct powers of arrest and detention - the same as those currently being sought for Community Police Officers and Civil Enforcement Officers.

In time of war Britain will become a totalitarian police state headed by a military government empowered through the City of London. I can be certain of this, and to which, people living in the UK remain, by and large, oblivious.

Just to re-cap

The above can only be considered as simply a background briefing, knowing that its contents can be checked and easily verified by those with the will to do so. However to be clear:

Iran will soon be attacked, possibly within 18 months of writing this. China will come to the aid of Iran to protect its own interests. Nuclear weapons will be used by either Iran or China, with Israel provoking their first use. Much of the Middle East will be laid to waste. Millions will die in a very short period of time. China will forcibly move into parts of Russia to extend 'ceasefire' lines. Biological weapons will be deployed against China. 'China will catch a cold'. There is some sort of malevolent ET alliance at work, profitably being used by the UK, US and other western powers, including Japan. Refer to 'Black Projects'. I also understand that other, more humanitarian ET entities are working against this Timeline and are, somehow, maintaining a precarious balance without taking any direct intervention themselves.

I have more to add to this

The western powers are actively seeking a 'perfect war' and have been engaged in doing so throughout the 20th century up to present times. WWI and WWII were simply stepping stones - both pre-determined and successful.

https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/ww3.png

The next Great War is now just round the corner. This war will significantly reduce the world's population, possibly by half, in a very short period of time. This 'over government' feels this course of action to be wholly righteous and is pursuing this action with astonishing determination.

For my part I feel that I have contributed in some way to all this happening, more so, since I knew about this many years ago, but failed to see its full significance- a denial on my part no doubt. There is only so much that a person can take in not unless one willingly gives over their own spirit to their cause - the greatest of evils.

Stay with me on this... The wider picture remains to me quite unclear. Nonetheless, I have 'seen' what will become of the physical shape of this world in a few short years to come.

The over-government knows this too and is using this Timeline as way of preparation. They know that the survivors from what is about to happen will determine the physical future of mankind on this planet for millennia to come. They see this as a race against time before time itself prevents them. You see, they are governed by time, while most everyone else living on this planet is not. I discovered this phenomena some time ago and came to understand why those involved with this over government are desperate not be caught in the present moment. They can't stand still and must at all costs keep striving towards their own manufactured goals. By doing so they are corralling everyone else, sheep like, into pens. The fuel they use to do this is fear.

The wider picture I mentioned, while much of it still remains unclear to me, is most definitely signalling a massive geo-physical change, a change that is very much like the seasons albeit a season that only occurs once in every 11500 years. Those in over government are very much aware of this 'season' and are driven to survive this change with their bloodline intact and to remain in overall control, very much as it is now.

One big question, to those awake to this change, is when will happen? Personally, I have little idea of an exact time other than it will be soon. I regard precise timings, such as 21st Dec 2012, with much suspicion. However, I say soon. Soon, to me, is something that is highly likely to happen in my own lifetime. I say this since I was here during the last season of change and see again, quite clearly, a chain of events that cannot be confused with anything other than this change taking place again - soon.

[Delight]

Larry Cook is now someone I appreciate. Vitamin C is what we need.

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I am going to post this here because Tom Levy explains how Vitamin C will give us the baseline to deal with a novel infection. I am not fearful about the viral infection and I am really seeking inspiration concerning the economic/ political disaster and what we can do? I am praying that people will wake up and not be funneled into the solution that may be offered OR mass hysteria.

JXKuWcB0cI0


Vitamin C Infusion for the Treatment of Severe 2019-nCoV Infected Pneumonia
(https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04264533)

At the end of 2019, patients with unexplained pneumonia appeared in Wuhan, China. At 21:00 on January 7, 2020, a new coronavirus was detected in the laboratory, and the detection of pathogenic nucleic acids was completed at 20:00 on January 10. Subsequently, the World Health Organization officially named the new coronavirus that caused the pneumonia epidemic in Wuhan as 2019 new coronavirus (2019-nCoV), and the pneumonia was named severe acute respiratory infection (SARI). Up to February 4, 2020, over 20000 cases have been diagnosed in China, 406 of which have died, and 154 cases have been discovered in other countries around the world. Most of the deaths were elderly patients or patients with severe underlying diseases. SARI has caused global concern and emergency.

Statistics of the 41 patients with SARI published in JAMA initially showed that 13 patients were transferred into the ICU, of which 11 (85%) had ARDS and 3 (23%) had shock. Of these, 10 (77%) required mechanical ventilation support, and 2 (15%) required ECMO support. Of the above 13 patients, 5 (38%) eventually died and 7 (38%) were transferred out of the ICU. Viral pneumonia is a dangerous condition with a poor clinical prognosis. For most viral infections, there is a lack of effective targeted antiviral drugs, and symptomatic supportive treatment is still the current main treatment.

Vitamin C, also known as ascorbic acid, has antioxidant properties. When sepsis happens, the cytokine surge caused by sepsis is activated, and neutrophils in the lungs accumulate in the lungs, destroying alveolar capillaries. Early clinical studies have shown that vitamin C can effectively prevent this process. In addition, vitamin C can help to eliminate alveolar fluid by preventing the activation and accumulation of neutrophils, and reducing alveolar epithelial water channel damage. At the same time, vitamin C can prevent the formation of neutrophil extracellular traps, which is a biological event of vascular injury caused by neutrophil activation. Vitamins can effectively shorten the duration of the common cold. In extreme conditions (athletes, skiers, art workers, military exercises), it can effectively prevent the common cold. And whether vitamin C also has a certain protective effect on influenza patients, only few studies have shown that vitamin C deficiency is related to the increased risk and severity of influenza infections. In a controlled but non-randomized trial, 85% of the 252 students treated experienced a reduction in symptoms in the high-dose vitamin C group (1g / h at the beginning of symptoms for 6h, followed by 3 * 1g / day). Among patients with sepsis and ARDS, patients in the high-dose vitamin group did not show a better prognosis and other clinical outcomes. There are still some confounding factors in the existing research, and the conclusions are different.

Therefore, during the current epidemic of SARI, it is necessary to study the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin C for viral pneumonia through randomized controlled trials.


Nutrients. 2017 Apr; 9(4): 339.
Published online 2017 Mar 29. doi: 10.3390/nu9040339
PMCID: PMC5409678
PMID: 28353648
Vitamin C and Infections (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5409678/)

Abstract
In the early literature, vitamin C deficiency was associated with pneumonia. After its identification, a number of studies investigated the effects of vitamin C on diverse infections. A total of 148 animal studies indicated that vitamin C may alleviate or prevent infections caused by bacteria, viruses, and protozoa. The most extensively studied human infection is the common cold. Vitamin C administration does not decrease the average incidence of colds in the general population, yet it halved the number of colds in physically active people. Regularly administered vitamin C has shortened the duration of colds, indicating a biological effect. However, the role of vitamin C in common cold treatment is unclear. Two controlled trials found a statistically significant dose–response, for the duration of common cold symptoms, with up to 6–8 g/day of vitamin C. Thus, the negative findings of some therapeutic common cold studies might be explained by the low doses of 3–4 g/day of vitamin C. Three controlled trials found that vitamin C prevented pneumonia. Two controlled trials found a treatment benefit of vitamin C for pneumonia patients. One controlled trial reported treatment benefits for tetanus patients. The effects of vitamin C against infections should be investigated further.

[sleepydumpling]

I was just thinking if this virus can stay on surfaces for at
Least 7 days does anyone think those in power pulling the strings will use this as an excuse to do away with physical cash.
Excuse will be something like handling cash is now to dangerous so we need to go to a full digital currency.

The central bankers have been after this for a long time.
If this has already been written then I do apologise

[RogeRio]

I found this article on a pediatric website, edited some blah-blah-blah and tried to show that the guidelines below are also for adults of any age to care. For general pourposes, indeed ..



The immune system of children is more fragile than of adults and certain diseases are more frequent at this stage of life. This fragility is greater in the first 3 years of life, and by the age of 4, the child reaches the maturity of the immune system and becomes less susceptible to infections.

To strengthen the body, one must seek healthy eating and do not forget sleep, as poor sleep impairs immunity. The diet must be complete and well varied in fruits and vegetables, and the quality of sleep is absolutely important.

With weakened immunity one (child) is prone to disease. Among them, infections of the upper and lower airways stand out, such as, for example, common colds, flu, sinusitis and pneumonia.

Getting in contact with dirt and microorganisms common from day to day to acquire antibodies is not a myth, it is real and scientific. It is part of a principle for the improvement of (child) immunity, called the Theory of Hygiene.

Due to this principle presented in 1989 by the English doctor David Strachan, it is known that (a child) must not necessarily undergo excessive care. "The presentation (of the child) to certain microorganisms can be beneficial for the stimulation and maturation of the immune system".


--edit--
I reported this post to Mods, to move it to "The Wuhan Coronavirus thread" .. a mistake of mine. I'm sorry.
--done--thank you Bill & Mods.

continuing ..

the contents opened my eyes to look at 3~4 age or less child contagious that not seems reported yet by any country, because this could be a very serious aggravating factor in any type of viruses epidemic.

[IChingUChing]

Please note - It can stay on surfaces for 9 days not 7. This is important. Hence why Chris Martenson of Peak Prosperity said he plans rotating 9 masks so he knows that by the time he gets back to the first mask, any virus will be gone/dead or whatever term is used for viruses which apparently exist somewhere between living and non-living.

[Bill Ryan]

I was just thinking if this virus can stay on surfaces for at
Least 7 days does anyone think those in power pulling the strings will use this as an excuse to do away with physical cash.
Excuse will be something like handling cash is now to dangerous so we need to go to a full digital currency. Irrespective of the causes of the outbreak, there seems little doubt that the global controllers will use the situation as a lever to implement all kinds of regulations, restrictions, and new protocols. Selling the idea that 'cash is dangerous' could easily be one of them.

Problem-Reaction-Solution, of course, whether the Problem is unplanned or carefully engineered. The principles still apply.

Another 'Solution' is the way that in South Korea, personal tracking has been used (and is being welcomed and applauded) to warn people via their smartphones if their movements have taken them close to where it's known there was recently another infected person.

That's pretty scary: not everyone has a smartphone (I don't!), and one wonders how the authorities might handle the 'problem' of those who don't, and therefore can't be tracked or warned that way, if a pandemic really does get out of control.

[Bill Ryan]

how is this "Not on topic"?I apologize: yes, of course, it belongs with this wide-ranging subject.

A confession here. :flower: I get exasperated sometimes (even though I've been told I'm known for my patience! :P ) when some issues come up again and again when in my opinion very sound comments have been made earlier in the thread about the same topic.

But I do understand that there's a LOT of information here, and therefore many people who want to contribute something they sincerely feel is valuable — which I'll always respect and appreciate — are unaware that it's already been discussed.

I get exasperated about the 5G thing, too. Here's why.

Of course, 5G, pollution, poor diet and living conditions, and much else will all compromise the immune system. So someone with a weak[ened] immune system will always be more likely to develop more serious and possibly life-threatening symptoms from a circulating virus. Even if it's regular flu.

But we all know that.

Here are three of many case studies to illustrate the point.


There's no 5G in Iran. Go figure.
I'm as sure as I can be there's no 5G in the little town of Codogno, where the Italian outbreak started.
There's no 5G in Ecuador. The one confirmed case there flew in from Spain (without any symptoms, feeling fine), and 14 days later — in Ecuador all that time — she's now critically ill. It wasn't 5G that did that to the poor woman. If someone has symptoms from having been affected by 5G, when they leave that area they'd feel a lot better. This seems so obvious it's genuinely hard for me to understand why others don't see this clearly. Hence again, my frustration sometimes, for which I apologize once more. :flower:

All viewpoints are welcome here. We need to figure this out together. But please, be smart, and think carefully about all the many factors operating.

A few more of my own views:


This is a real virus, and it's a new strain. There's no 'herd immunity'. Immune systems are ambushed by this thing.



Of course, there are more deaths from regular flu, heart attacks, strokes, medical malpractice, and car accidents. And let me say again: everyone reading this will be fine, because you all know how to take good care of yourselves and your families.



But right now the numbers are small. It's the projection into the future that's the concern. Very smart people out there (including Dr Gabriel Leung (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Leung), a world-class epidemiologist in Hong Kong) have done the math and forecast a worst case scenario of 100 million deaths after 60% of the world's population is infected. That's a big number, bigger than all the rest.



I'm unsure if the Anglo-Saxon Mission (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission) has come into play here. There are matches, but also mismatches. I've not been 'pushing' the issue, but others have — the latest being Dr Henry Makow (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1338588&viewfull=1#post1338588), whose articles are widely read.



I do strongly suspect this is all somehow engineered, though. I'm deeply suspicious of the VERY VERY close similarity with the scenario laid out on p.18 of this 2010 Rockefeller Foundation document (http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Scenarios_for_the_Future_of_Technology_and_International_Development_Rockefeller_Foundation_2010.pdf ). For anyone who's unfamiliar with this, I suggest it's mandatory reading.



Most of my own predictions posted here on 18 Feb (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1336668&viewfull=1#post1336668) have come to pass, one by one. That gives me no pleasure, but for me it feels like an affirmation that my own strong, very instinctive focus on this (a) is warranted and (b) may be fairly accurate. (For anyone not following my hunches, my most recent forecast (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1338310&highlight=costco#post1338310) is that there'll start to be panic buying in the US towards the end of this coming week, or maybe the middle of the week after, as soon as ACCURATE testing numbers start to be published and the everyday US population starts to realize there may be a real problem.)



And also: the Tokyo Olympics (scheduled to start on 24 July), as best as I can calculate and perceive, will very probably be canceled. The only times this ever happened before were in 1916, 1940 and 1944, during the World Wars. There'll be more and more discussion about this in the mainstream in the next 2-3 weeks.

[Sophocles]

Status (in Norway): 19 confirmed cases.

5 cases among nurses and doctors at Ullevål Hospital; 4th and 5th case reported today.

In addition 50 health care personell working at the same hospital are placed in home quarantine.


Also: Norwegian store shelves are emptied of canned goods. All the major retail chains have noticed an increase in sales of long-lasting products.

[Bill Ryan]

More about Iran. (But note that Iran is being demonized here — maybe quite fairly, of course — while China's almost certain false numbers remains uncriticized. And those in the US, too.)


https://channelnewsasia.com/news/world/covid-19-iran-coronavirus-epidemic-size-12488404

What is the real size of the coronavirus epidemic in Iran?
1 March, 2020

International experts are questioning the scale of the new coronavirus epidemic in Iran, where the official death toll is second only to China and risks creating a regional epicentre of contagion.

While Iran has acknowledged 54 deaths among 978 confirmed infections (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/covid-19-iran-death-toll-coronavirus-mar-1-12488390) nationwide - with a vice-president and deputy health minister (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/iran-deputy-health-minister-coronavirus-covid-19-12469574) among those testing positive - unofficial tolls are much higher.

The London-based BBC Persian service says 210 people have been killed by the virus; a figure it says it collated from hospital sources.

The report was immediately dismissed by Iran's health ministry (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/covid19-iran-death-toll-rises-43-coronavirus-12485554).

The People's Mujahedin, an exiled organisation that Tehran considers a terrorist group, claims that the epidemic has killed "more than 300", while infecting up to 15,000 across the country.

Six epidemiologists based in Canada used a mathematical model to estimate that there have been more than 18,000 cases on Iranian soil.

Their calculations - not yet peer reviewed - take into account the number of cases in other countries that originated from Iran.

"When a country exports cases to other destinations it's very likely that the burden of infection in this country is significant", according to Isaac Bogoch, coauthor of the study and a specialist in infectious diseases at the University of Toronto.

"POSITION OF WEAKNESS"

This week, Reporters Without Borders added its own criticism of Tehran's handling of the outbreak, accusing the government of stifling news on the spread of the virus.

"The authorities insist they have the situation under control but they have ... obstructed journalists trying to cover the story," the media advocacy group said in a statement.

On Saturday, Iran's health ministry spokesman Kianoush Jahanpour responded to the criticisms, accusing foreign media of spreading false news.

"Among Iran's radicals, there is an obsession with not giving ammunition to the enemy and avoiding appearing weak," said Thierry Coville, an Iran analyst at the French Institute for International and Strategic Affairs.

Iranian Twitter user Assieh Bakeri speculated: "Talking about coronavirus could soon be considered troubling for public opinion, undermining public security and insulting the president!"

ECONOMIC CRISIS WEIGHS

More than seven per cent of people in Iran confirmed to be infected with the virus have died, according to Iran's official data, a far higher mortality rate than in other countries.

In China, 3.5 per cent of infected people have reportedly died. In Italy, another country hit hard by the virus, the death rate is reported at two per cent.

"In Iran, for example, they started detecting patients based on death. So if you calculate the case/fatality rate that way, it is going to be very high," said Cecile Viboud, an epidemiologist at the National Institutes of Health in the United States.

Whatever the reliability of official figures, Iran is certainly one of the main centres of contamination outside China.

The situation is aggravated by an economic crisis, as the country grapples with the effect of Washington re-imposing sanctions in 2018 - a move that hit oil exports and provoked a recession.

"Why did Iran not stop flights to China? There is a rational explanation - China is one of the last countries buying their oil. They need to maintain the economic link," Coville said.

"With the sanctions, we can say that the government has lost at least 30 per cent of its budget revenues. This has inevitably had an impact on their health system," he added.

Situated at a geographical crossroads in the Middle East and surrounded by countries with creaking infrastructure and challenging humanitarian conditions, Iran's situation gives cause for worry.

"This is concerning, both for public health in Iran itself, and because of the high likelihood for outward dissemination of the epidemic to neighbouring countries with lower capacity to respond to infectious diseases epidemics", the Canadian study concluded.

Azerbaijan, Iraq, Canada, Georgia, Lebanon, New Zealand and Qatar have now confirmed coronavirus infections among people arriving from Iran.

Iranian authorities have taken measures to counter the virus' spread, including cancelling Friday prayers in several cities, closing schools until at least Tuesday, shutting parliament until "further notice" and restricting travel within the country.

[Bill Ryan]

A heads up re the Pope. He's sick, and events are being canceled which he was scheduled to attend.

Of course, he may just have a cold. But these are strange times, and anything could happen to anyone, just about anywhere.

https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/ec5e35a2-b177-4753-91df-dd690e3998da.jpg

[Bill Ryan]

More still about Iran. Here's a Twitter feed with multiple reports and videos from the ground all of which suggest the situation there is alarming and utterly out of control.

https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1233668766124400640

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[Innocent Warrior]

Autopsies offer key clues for early stage COVID-19 patients (https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181121.shtml) (Global Times, Feb 29)

Autopsies show severe damage to COVID-19 patients' lungs and immune system, according to a doctor in Wuhan reached by the Global Times, who called for measures to prevent fibrosis of the lungs at an early stage of the disease.

"The influence of COVID-19 on the human body is like a combination of SARS and AIDS as it damages both the lungs and immune systems," Peng Zhiyong, director of the intensive care unit of the Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University in Wuhan, told the Global Times on Friday.

Peng said he had just talked to Liu Liang, a forensic specialist from the Tongji Medical College at Huazhong University of Science and Technology. Liu's team has reportedly conducted nine autopsies on deceased COVID-19 patients as of February 24.

"The autopsy results Liu shared inspired me a lot. Based on the results, I think the most important thing now is to take measures at an early stage of the disease to protect patients' lungs from irreversible fibrosis," Peng noted.

If irreversible damage is done, other measures, like those to prevent patients from oxygen deficit, will not be of much use, he said.

Liu's team published a paper on an autopsy they conducted in the Journal of Forensic Medicine on Tuesday.

The paper said there was apparent damage to the patient's lungs. An excess production of mucus spilled out of the alveoli, indicating COVID-19 causes an inflammation response that damages deep airways and pulmonary alveoli.

The patient, an 85-year-old man, exhibited similar pathological changes to those caused by SARS and MERS. Fibrosis in his lungs was not as serious as was seen in SARS patients, but an exudative reaction was more apparent, possibly due to the short course of his disease.

News about the paper went viral on Chinese social media platforms on Friday.

Some news reports said that Liu's team's autopsies showed that sputum bolt is one the main reasons that caused COVID-19 patients' deaths. Some medical staff have used sputum aspirators for patients based on the results, which led to a decline by half in the number of deaths in Wuhan on Wednesday.

The National Health Commission (NHC) said Wuhan reported 42 deaths on Tuesday and 19 on Wednesday.

However, Peng doubted the reports, saying that he believes the decline was due to the improving situation and shrinking patients pool.

"Even if the autopsy results are helpful, the effectiveness would not come out so quickly. It takes at least one week to observe," Peng said.

He warned that the number of deaths may rebound as he knows many critical patients in Wuhan have held out for one month but are still in danger and could die anytime.

There were 6,775 critical patients in Wuhan as of Thursday and the number of deaths Wuhan authority reported on Thursday was 28, according to NHC.

The patient mentioned in the paper was hospitalized in January for a cerebral infraction, the death of tissue in the brain resulting from inadequate blood supply. He was confirmed to be infected with novel coronavirus 13 days later and died after a further 15 days. The autopsy was conducted within 12 hours of his death.

No apparent pathological changes were found in his digestive system, spleen or brain, the report said.

Liu's team conducted the first on February 16, about a month after the outbreak.

Liu previously told media that he and his team had proposed to the Wuhan government to conduct autopsies soon after the outbreak.

The government and local hospitals agreed on the necessity of autopsies but could not provide proper locations. They also worried about risks of viral transmission during such autopsies.

Yang Zhanqiu, deputy director of the pathogen biology department at Wuhan University, explained that preparation and risk evaluation of the autopsy of COVID-19 patients is crucial, as it may cause containment of the hospital or medical members.

Also, Chinese traditional thoughts of preserving the body of the deceased may hinder the autopsy process, which requires family consent, Yang told the Global Times.

[Conaire]

Ireland has its first reported case of COVID-19, as of today (Sunday, March 1st). The (male) patient is being treated in a Dublin hospital, having returned to Ireland from Northern Italy. Not a lot of details have been given at this time.

"Dr Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer with the Department of Health, said: "This is not unexpected. We have been preparing for this eventuality for many weeks now.

"Public health protocols have been in place since January and are operating effectively.

"The health service is well used to managing infectious diseases and has robust response measures in place."


There are already reports of people panic buying food.

[Bill Ryan]

More thoughts about the situation in the US. I've suggested that panic buying might begin at the end of the coming week, or very soon after that. But it's already started in New York and Hawaii. For all of you highly aware folks reading this, who may wisely be determined just to stay cool and watch all this play out, do make sure you're not at the end of some long lines that may form quite quickly.

But here's what this post is about, and not nearly enough people are talking about this.

Many state proudly that US healthcare is the best in the world, but (whether it is or not!) it's also the most expensive. 44 million people in the US have no health insurance. That's a heck of a lot.

There was a horrific story (https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/07/02/woman-got-her-leg-caught-gap-orange-line-train-and-then-begged-for-ambulance-because-cost/q6gBPV8ujcfH0qLrQ6HjEJ/story.html) about a woman in 2018 who got her leg trapped between a subway train and the platform. It was badly mangled. As bystanders rushed to help, she begged them NOT to call an ambulance — because she'd never be able to afford it.

They do better than that in Nigeria.

So: what happens to those who develop apparently serious symptoms, which they suspect are from Covid-19, who have no access to healthcare?

Maybe merely this: they suffer a lot at home, praying for the best. And maybe some die. Meanwhile all those friends and family doing their best to care for them are infected, too. That's a disaster movie scenario. The US just isn't quite there yet. But they may possibly be within a couple of months.

[Anka]

Not to amplify, but purely informative, the situation in Romania: Almost 8,000 Romanians are in isolation at home, another 49 are quarantined. "Patient 1" was cured.

In our country, the information is passed from the playground of the Ministry of Interior and Foreign Affairs
(where several commissions of the security, they strike with their left foot in the right leg doing nothing losing themselves in "procedures"), and the playground of the ministry of health
 (whose minister has handcuffs and is imprisoned in custody for 30 days), the population is doing the best they can, as always, and I only trust the population, that they can protect themselves, for the good of all.

Maybe the culture will finally save us here... I just suppose, because we usually curse with great love every possible evil and the joke is the basis of every reality, no matter how painful it may be, it's crazy but it often works.
Off topic, I personally, swallow 3 tablespoons of vitamin C powder almost every day every year and I have my immunity already proven for years that I have no trace of cold.I put vitamin C in tea or salads and fruit compote :thumbsup:

Here, where I am, it seems to be more an intrusion of confusion and information(a kind of "infodemic" rather than "epidemic") than an intrusion of the virus and, apart from the spectacle that fear develops,... I am very sorry for all those who are really suffering around the globe :flower:

By virtue of the hope that the whole story will finally end, and in honor of the sacrifice of those who have died, I will keep a moment of peace today.:flower:

[EFO]

A confession here. :flower: I get exasperated sometimes (even though I've been told I'm known for my patience! :P ) when some issues come up again and again when in my opinion very sound comments have been made earlier in the thread about the same topic.I get exasperated about the 5G thing, too.

You are not alone :rofl:

[Sarah Rainsong]

More thoughts about the situation in the US. I've suggested that panic buying might begin at the end of the coming week, or very soon after that. But it's already started in New York and Hawaii. For all of you highly aware folks reading this, who may wisely be determined just to stay cool and watch all this play out, do make sure you're not at the end of some long lines that may form quite quickly.

But here's what this post is about, and not nearly enough people are talking about this.

Many state proudly that US healthcare is the best in the world, but (whether it is or not!) it's also the most expensive. 44 million people in the US have no health insurance. That's a heck of a lot.

There was a horrific story (https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/07/02/woman-got-her-leg-caught-gap-orange-line-train-and-then-begged-for-ambulance-because-cost/q6gBPV8ujcfH0qLrQ6HjEJ/story.html) about a woman in 2018 who got her leg trapped between a subway train and the platform. It was badly mangled. As bystanders rushed to help, she begged them NOT to call an ambulance — because she'd never be able to afford it.

They do better than that in Nigeria.

So: what happens to those who develop apparently serious symptoms, which they suspect are from Covid-19, who have no access to healthcare?

Maybe merely this: they suffer a lot at home, praying for the best. And maybe some die. Meanwhile all those friends and family doing their best to care for them are infected, too. That's a disaster movie scenario. The US just isn't quite there yet. But they may possibly be within a couple of months.

And several places on the west coast. I'm hearing from moms who are in the Washington, Oregon, and southern California areas that have encountered panic buying. For instance, a case of trying to take the last hand-sanitizer out of someone else's hands. Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and sanitizing wipes being cleared off the shelves. I believe, but am not certain, that these are in the areas that already have confirmed cases. And of course, it's anecdotal, no actual news reports or anything.

[Pam]

Article may have inadvertently verified the morphing of Corona Virus.

The article below is telling us that the virus could have been circulating around Washington state for weeks. Take a look at the parts that I highlighted. If they can identify a probable source vector of the virus due to its similar genetic sequencing that seems to indicate that other people with the virus may have different sequencing.

I am just appalled at the way the US and Washington state are handling this. No red flags raised that 50 people associated with one nursing home have either pneumonia or other respiratory distress??? The irony of this is my brother is the director of the health department in one of the largest counties here in Washington state.
Kirkland is a suburb of Seattle and the area is very heavy populated.

Coronavirus may have been spreading in Washington state for weeks: experts

Washington state’s coronavirus outbreak that claimed a life over the weekend suggests that the bug has been spreading there for nearly six weeks, according to experts.

Trevor Bedford, an associate professor at the University of Washington, said that one of the state’s recent cases appears to be linked to a Snohomish County man who was identified Jan. 19 as the country’s first coronavirus patient, the New York Times reported.

Bedford and a research team found similarities while comparing the genetic sequence of the two samples that indicated the recent case had been descended from the other, suggesting that there has been community spread throughout the region, the outlet reported.

“I believe we’re facing an already substantial outbreak in Washington State that was not detected until now due to narrow case definition requiring direct travel to China,” Bedford tweeted.

His findings come after officials confirmed a patient who died at a Seattle-area hospital was the first coronavirus death in the US.

There were also two presumptive cases in the same suburb linked to a longterm care facility, Life Care Center of Kirkland.

“In addition, over 50 individuals associated with Life Care are reportedly ill with respiratory symptoms or hospitalized with pneumonia or other respiratory conditions of unknown cause and are being tested for COVID-19,” Seattle and King County officials said.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Saturday that there have been 22 coronavirus cases detected across the country through the public health system.

Meanwhile, there have been more than 86,000 people infected across the world and at least 2,900 deaths.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/01/coronavirus-may-have-been-spreading-in-washington-state-for-weeks-experts/

[ArjunaArcana]

My fellow Avalonians greetings.

Im Santo Domingo Dominican Republic and we have our first confirmed case.

Italian 62yrs old male, looks pretty good actually he was waving his hand at everybody, being kept in quarantine right now.

Came from Italy aprox a week ago in flight of 200+ people, now authorities are in panic for who knows where these people are right now and who they might come in contact with.

Keep you posted as the situation develops, be safe.

[Delight]

I am very sorry for all those who are really suffering around the globe

By virtue of the hope that the whole story will finally end, and in honor of the sacrifice of those who have died, I will keep a moment of peace today.

Thanks so much for sharing your peace. This is sort of off topic but I am encouraged to proclaim the opportunity to be together. We can BE TOGETHER wherever and whenever (no need to clock it) we choose to KNOW that there is Divine opportunity.

Is this a time when our inner certainty of the Presence can help others? I know from my research and experience that time and space are constructed. We do have a consensus of how we will operate. I would like to interject that it may be possible that at WHATEVER MOMENT we choose to focus on an intention, we will connect with any other moment when that same intention was placed. retrocausation or whatever time slip or whatever it is called may take us to a new "outcome" and this is a prayer.

Most people don't take advantage of the collective prayer unless there is a catastrophe and then they turn to the Presence of ALL POSSIBILITY. My thought is that NOW I join with ALL those wherever,whomever and however knew that the Presence is able to do anything. I interject into the field that I am so grateful and this wells up like an overflowing cup. Peace is felt in the bones and the Presence is engaged. Now! Now!

CAN YOU FEEL....

[Conaire]

Irish update:

"A Dublin school with 400 pupils is to close for two weeks after one of its students was confirmed as having the coronavirus.

The teenager, who is the first person in the Republic to test positive for the virus, became ill in recent days after returning from Italy and is in isolation in Dublin hospital."

[Hughe]

Local news agency started to report that patients who requires critical medical treatment are dying because they can't go to the hospital due to overwhelmed medical system in Daegu city, the ground zero of COVID-19 of South Korea. The city I live has around population of one million. Only big hospitals have intensive care units with equipment. I estimate total number of ICU is less than one hundred in the city.

Original Korean news (https://news.v.daum.net/v/20200302005502530)


Upload 03/02/2020 00:55 Edit 03/02/2020 01:00
(Daegu = News1) Reporter Seung-ryul Nam
Five patients with confirmed coronavirus infection (COVID-19) died in Daegu one day.

As a result, 13 died in Daegu and total domestic death is 22.

According to health authorities and Daegu City, Patient. A (80, female) was found dead at about 8 PM in a family house in Suseong-gu, Daegu. Patient A, the 12th deceased in Daegu, showed symptoms of corona 19 including fever on the 26th of last month. The confirmation of COVID-19 infection was reported to the family about 6 PM on the day.

The health authorities are looking at the cause of Patient. A's death and its association with COVID-19.

A 77-year-old woman, who was in the hospital treatment in Daegu Fatima Hospital, also died late at about 1:40 AM on March 1st. The woman showed symptoms of COVID-19, including fever, and was confirmed the next day after being hospitalized on the 29th day of last month. She was suffering from liver cancer as an underlying disease.

At 2:25 pm, an 80-year-old man who was admitted to Chilgok Gyeongbuk National University Hospital died at 4:25 PM and an 86-year-old woman who was transferred to Daegu Catholic University Hospital.

The 80-year-old man, the 10th death of Daegu, was confirmed corona19 on 28th day of last month and suffered from hypertension.

The 86-year-old woman, the 11th death of Daegu, died of hospitalization at home because she had no hospital bed due to the explosion of COVID-19 confirmed patients.

The woman was confirmed on the 28th day of last month and was transported to Daegu Catholic University Hospital for two days due to difficulty breathing.

The number of confirmed COVID-19 patients who died due to lack of hospital beds in Daegu was worsened due to severe symptoms, including the 12th death of Daegu as of 11 PM.

Earlier today, at 11:20 AM, an 83-year-old man died in quarantine at Kyungpook National University Hospital. This male is the ninth death of Daegu.

[thepainterdoug]

SOUNDS DESIGNED TO ELIMINATE THE OLD AND THE WEAK. Bill Gates must be smiling.

[Baby Steps]

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SOUNDS DESIGNED TO ELIMINATE THE OLD AND THE WEAK. Bill Gates must be smiling.

Yes, and if these figures are representative, life insurance companies will be decimated, but pension providers and companies with large unfunded pension liabilities will receive some much needed balance sheet restructuring.

[Sarah Rainsong]

This video, posted on The Borax Conspiracy thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1311055&viewfull=1#post1311055), has some creepy similarities to what's going on right now. I was watching this to learn more about Borax, but I was surprised at how much of what was describe aligned with what's been going on with this virus!

Just going by what I can remember, the video goes into nano technology that when activated causes the person to have flu-like symptoms including the lungs filling up, heart failure, and convulsions. But there's a lot more.

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[Baby Steps]

Ireland has its first reported case of COVID-19, as of today (Sunday, March 1st). The (male) patient is being treated in a Dublin hospital, having returned to Ireland from Northern Italy. Not a lot of details have been given at this time.

"Dr Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer with the Department of Health, said: "This is not unexpected. We have been preparing for this eventuality for many weeks now.

"Public health protocols have been in place since January and are operating effectively.

"The health service is well used to managing infectious diseases and has robust response measures in place."


There are already reports of people panic buying food.

I know a bit about this. The victim was coughing and spluttering throughout the flight so likely most passengers infected, not sure if all the passengers have been isolated as they should have been.

[Conaire]

From where did you source this information?

All the data that I can gather at this moment is that the patient is a high school student, from Dublin, that travelled from Ireland to Italy and back again.

Patient confidentiality has restricted the media from reporting on any of the more personal details. However, it has been reported that he only became ill after returning from Italy.

[Bill Ryan]

A mathematical note, simply an extrapolation from the graph (https://covid19info.live/en/).

http://projectavalon.net/coronavirus_cases_outside_China_1_March_2020.png

The number of confirmed cases outside of China is doubling every 1.5 days. If that rate of increase continues, by the end of this week the number will reach 100,000 — unless something remarkable happens in terms of containment in several key countries.

Of course, the world may well run out of test kits first, with clinical assessment taking their place. It seems intuitively barely believable that this steep rate of increase could continue. But if it does, and real numbers are somehow counted, I'll leave someone else to work out how many cases there'd be by the end of March. (It's easy to do, but I really don't want to write the number down!)

[GrayWolfBG]

Uncoffined they were strewn

Tangled corpses lay unmourned

'The Great White Dope' naire a Cobra called yet still they fell asunder in their masses

#COVID2019 did 4 me

Yet far too busy the elite be

To mourn their lack of humanity

When my end came

'The unknown victims'

2020

[twin fig]

Hi everyone. I rarely post on the forums and have been following this thread with fascination. I am in Australia and have just read this article...

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/an-australian-coronavirus-outbreak-is-inevitable/news-story/5ab97386e9ec800c4f46a6d17aa0ea98

In it Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeanette Young goes on to say this about a woman who has the virus after travelling from Iran...

The woman returned to Australia from Iran on February 24.

“I’ve got no concerns about the people who were on the plane with that lady who returned from Iran because she was thoroughly well and she only developed full symptoms at 3pm on Thursday,” she said.

If the quote is correctly reported, it flies in the face of what we know of the virus.

She also stated “I expect we will see an outbreak of the epidemic in Queensland,”

I guess if this is how the Queensland government approaches it, she may well be right.

I feel like I am watching a Monty Python sketch.

[Bill Ryan]

A mathematical note, simply an extrapolation from the graph (https://covid19info.live/en/).

http://projectavalon.net/coronavirus_cases_outside_China_1_March_2020.png

The number of confirmed cases outside of China is doubling every 1.5 days. If that rate of increase continues, by the end of this week the number will reach 100,000 — unless something remarkable happens in terms of containment in several key countries.

Of course, the world may well run out of test kits first, with clinical assessment taking their place. It seems intuitively barely believable that this steep rate of increase could continue. But if it does, and real numbers are somehow counted, I'll leave someone else to work out how many cases there'd be by the end of March. (It's easy to do, but I really don't want to write the number down!)

A further note, before I close down for the evening, also bumping this post.

After writing it, I realized of course there was more: at a very early stage in this skyrocketing graph — not yet, but soon — all hospitals and health services would be overwhelmed, not only because of the numbers of patients needing intensive care, but also because the healthcare workers would also be sick. That's when the mortality rate would also climb.

I confess — and I'm just sharing this 100% honestly: only now, for the first time, do I start to fear what could happen. That rocketing graph has to stop — but it's really quite hard to see how it will.

[BMJ]

Willem Felderhof [quote]: “In The Shadow Of The Moon”(2019). Besides ridiculous over the top anti-white propaganda (the future of the humanity is threatened by white nationalists and affiliated militias), the rampant predictive programming in this movie is truly remarkable with regard to today's reality. To secure the future of humanity all members of white nationalist movements and patriotic affiliates who uphold and defend the Constitution need to be exterminated because they are planning a civil war. And guess what, the killing takes the form of a fatal virus injection the effects of which can be remotely triggered through time by electronic warfare technology. I recorded the following scene where the remote extermination method is tested on pigs. After the successful remote bio/electronic killing of the pigs the guy even says: “I think we may have a winner here. With the pairing of the CORONA-isotopes we can eventually be triggering disillusion from a future point in time.” Later in the movie it is explained that the virus is fed by anger and spread through fear. I did not see anything about this one on the internet but maybe I missed it. Watch 3 min video: [unquote]

https://www.facebook.com/100014343575480/videos/801933433628102/

And the plot thickens.

From Saving Hope TV Show Season 1 Episode 11 The Law of Contagion Original Air Date: 8/30/2012!!

From Dean Kootnz "The Eyes of Darkness"

From wikipedia.
"A novel coronavirus, to be named COVID-19, in late 2019 was discovered within humans in Wuhan, China. Parallels were drawn between COVID-19 and the novel's 'Wuhan-400' bioweapon.[3][4] Several notable differences were identified between the real virus and the fictional bioweapon. Separately the bioweapon of the first edition of the novel was named 'Gorki-400', but the novel's laboratory was relocated and bioweapon renamed following the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991.[3][4]"

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eyes_of_Darkness

https://twitter.com/HuckleberryHon1/status/1233983042433114112?s=20

https://img.manoramaonline.com/content/dam/mm/en/lifestyle/books/images/2020/2/18/dean-koontz-eyes-of-darkness.jpg

[TigaHawk]

Hi everyone. I rarely post on the forums and have been following this thread with fascination. I am in Australia and have just read this article...

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/an-australian-coronavirus-outbreak-is-inevitable/news-story/5ab97386e9ec800c4f46a6d17aa0ea98

In it Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeanette Young goes on to say this about a woman who has the virus after travelling from Iran...

The woman returned to Australia from Iran on February 24.

“I’ve got no concerns about the people who were on the plane with that lady who returned from Iran because she was thoroughly well and she only developed full symptoms at 3pm on Thursday,” she said.

If the quote is correctly reported, it flies in the face of what we know of the virus.

She also stated “I expect we will see an outbreak of the epidemic in Queensland,”

I guess if this is how the Queensland government approaches it, she may well be right.

I feel like I am watching a Monty Python sketch.


I work for a section of the QLD government and queried if i'd be able to work from home with my manager today as my job is capable of doing all work from home.


Was told with the most unconcerned look on their face they only just started talking about it in upper management and have no feedback to give yet.


If **** does hit the fan, we have a massive backlog on hard tokens and no infrastructure to make the switch quickly to soft tokens for the foreseeable future for one half of us. The other half has been on soft tokens for some time for all positions that dont require active use of a phone. There has been a need for this since the 2011 floods and there has been 0 effort to put in this capability even tho Telstra has everything required for us to have this setup.


Personally i'd much prefer to work from home for the next few months just to be away form the chaos, people, and air conditioning which spreads every cold / flu around the office so EVERYONE gets it. Huge open plan office, you can hear people from the other end.


So they're not taking this very seriously at all.



Tho i guess that's nothing new. Our government has always been look at what i say, not what i do.

[Baby Steps]

From where did you source this information?

All the data that I can gather at this moment is that the patient is a high school student, from Dublin, that travelled from Ireland to Italy and back again.

Patient confidentiality has restricted the media from reporting on any of the more personal details. However, it has been reported that he only became ill after returning from Italy.


I know a relative of someone who sat next to him on the plane

[IChingUChing]

First case reported in the small market town 5km from me...:(

[Sophocles]

Dr. Campbell talks about the coronavirus and Africa:


«Now I don’t want to be overly pessimistic because a common external enemy can be a great unifying force. I just so hope that’s the case.»

I couldn’t agree more!


Global isolation and containment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRJ7qc6Af8)

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[Bill Ryan]

From 7:17 in his latest video, Dr John Campbell highlights a new paper in The Lancet focusing on the problems faced by Africa.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRJ7qc6Af8
Not much has been said about this yet in the first world media, but the situation is very dangerous.

That's because of a combo of poor healthcare systems, lack of money and facilities, lack of organization, many connections with China, and (importantly) a bunch of pre-existing immunosuppressive conditions in large numbers of people such as malaria, HIV, and even tuberculosis, the latter not at all a disease of the past. It doesn't paint a comforting picture.

Like myself, quite a few reading this may have spent time in Africa, and it's self-evident how near-impossible a large new outbreak would be to contain. There's a passionate video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRVqXpRYEzs) posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-COVID-19&p=1337691&viewfull=1#post1337691) from a South African commentator raising the alarm, greatly concerned about his very beautiful but chaotic country. That might be worth listening to again.

[Tintin]

He's right, this is pretty interesting. Joseph Farrell posted this yesterday and includes a link to an Air Force document we might want to have in the library.



Thanks :thumbsup:

Yes, a good idea - here it is, in a standalone folder:

Link: http://avalonlibrary.net/Biotechnology_Genetically_Engineered_Pathogens_(Lt.Col_Joel_Almosara_BSC_USAF)_June_2010_%5bPaper%5d/Biotechnology_Genetically_Engineered_Pathogens_(Lt.Col_Joel_Almosara_BSC_USAF)_June_2010_%5bPaper%5d _a556597.pdf

http://avalonlibrary.net/Biotechnology_Genetically_Engineered_Pathogens_(Lt.Col_Joel_Almosara_BSC_USAF)_June_2010_%5bPaper%5d/Biotechnology_Genetically_Engineered_Pathogens_(Lt.Col_Joel_Almosara_BSC_USAF)_June_2010_%5bPaper%5d _a556597.pdf

:focus:

[Tenzin]

Nicely done timeline comparing with the H1N1 outbreak. I believe the next pandemic, after COVID-19, will hit way harder. It seems to me their 'plan' looks delayed, probably a trial since 5G has not yet been fully deployed worldwide. Time to seriously prepare this body and mind for the next round.

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[Bill Ryan]

Africa.New cases have just been reported in Tunisia and Senegal.

A CNN article of an hour ago:


African countries are at severe risk if outbreaks aren't detected early and contained, says Africa CDC head
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/cdc-africa-severe-risk-coronavirus-intl/index.html

[IChingUChing]

Nicely done timeline comparing with the H1N1 outbreak. I believe the next pandemic, after COVID-19, will hit way harder. It seems to me their 'plan' looks delayed, probably a trial since 5G has not yet been fully deployed worldwide. Time to seriously prepare this body and mind for the next round.

rJiKxV4rTCQ

Great analysis in this video and really scary to see how majorly underreported the H1N1 virus was in the USA by government, WHO, CDC. And now here we are again......!!!!!!!!