What did you do today to prepare for COVID-19 ?

[Antagenet]

Let's just suppose that COVID-19 becomes a worldwide quarantine scenario.
Given that it is a possibility, what are you doing to prepare?

Today I made a list of all the food I have stored away, and it fell dismally short.
After just a few months I would run out of everything except sweets and protein.

So I went shopping and started stocking up on canned pumpkin, pasta, jars of
cheese sauce, lentils to cook and sprout, coconut and olive oil. :happythumbsup:

and bought more garden seeds, arugula, lettuce, tomatoes... :flower:

What are you doing to prepare?

[Karen (Geophyz)]

I have increased my food stockpile for myself and my animals. I have also increased my medical supplies and gotten seeds for the herbs I use the most. Although most of my herbs come from the land around me. I have also sped up my plan to put my well on solar power. The only thing I cannot produce is paper products, toilet paper being the big one! So I have been stockpiling that!

[Dick]

I have my Brother and his Chinese wife and their two kids over from GuangZhou, China :facepalm: :bigsmile: if we survive that...we can take everything

But they are fine, and stayd out of china the last 4 weeks.

Now back on topic, I've had the flu a couple of weeks ago and feeling fine now, take a lot of fresh vegetables and do my exercises, hope its enough.

[Tomkoyote]

The virus in itself worries me the least. What worries me most and essentially is government's fascist intervention and regulations that will be pushed on the public; no amount of food and medication will protect anyone from that.

[Delight]

I choose to see this as an opportunity to practice my intrinsic values fully.

I know I am talking from the outskirts of the mental constructs of "normal" but my plan is just not to need most of everything REALLY. I know I need water and sunlight and I need my ability to change my body using my mind. However, Wim Hoff and Joe Dispenza have already demonstrated with self and students that we have a much much more amazing innate ability than we have credited. I also live outside the city and also will have a garden. Also I will continue as a ovo/lacto/ vegetarian and keep my chickens for eggs. I have kefir culture and I will make other fermented foods.


The vast majority of our pharmaceuticals, vitamins and supplements are made in China – is coronavirus the black swan event that will collapse it all?
Friday, February 14, 2020 by: Ethan Huff (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-14-pharmaceuticals-vitamins-supplements-made-china-coronavirus-black-swan.html)

(Natural News) As Americans watch, mostly from the comfort of their own homes, the nation of China is descending into medical martial law, and the thing that most of us aren’t fully comprehending at this point is how the Wuhan coronavirus threatens to cut off the supply of critical goods to the United States.

Even if it never becomes a full-blown pandemic here on our soil, the novel coronavirus is right now interfering with the production of all sorts of things that most of us take for granted every single day. Everything from pharmaceuticals to dietary supplements, and car parts to kitchen appliances, are all mostly made in China these days – which means if they’re not making them, we’re not getting them.

Since hundreds of millions of Chinese people aren’t being allowed to go back to work due to mandatory quarantines, and the factories they work at aren’t opening as planned post-Chinese Lunar New Year, then it’s only a matter of time before we start to see the horrific impact of this in the form of empty shelves at the big box stores and no more vitamins at the health food shops.

China itself is already facing an economic crisis that some reports are tabulating to the tune of about $60 billion. And if the outbreak isn’t very soon contained, this number could rapidly balloon to about $6 trillion, completely collapsing the Chinese economy and all other economies to which it’s currently tied.

“The United States and China are intimately linked economically,” warns The Organic Prepper. “The coronavirus outbreak could directly affect our economy, as well as the availability of many essential products that are made in China.”

Be sure to check out the following episode of The Health Ranger Report, in which Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, talks about how there’s no way China would be closing so many factories if coronavirus mortality is really only two percent as Chinese authorities are claiming:



About 80 percent of Big Pharma’s meds come from China
From a medicine availability standpoint, a total shutdown of China’s pharmaceutical industry due to coronavirus would mean a total shutdown of our own, seeing as how about 80 percent of Big Pharma’s drugs come from, or are made from ingredients produced in, communist China.

What this means is that if there’s even the slightest of interruptions for key pharmaceutical ingredients made in China, drug manufacturers won’t be able to produce the medications that tens of millions of Americans rely on as part of their preferred health regimens.

Specifically affected would be things like antidepressants, tranquilizers, psychotropics and anesthesia, all of which could run dry quicker than most people would probably assume. Also impacted would be anti-malaria drugs, ADHD drugs, thyroid and hormone drugs, as well as the many dozens of vaccines now on the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) official schedule.

Most rubber and metal products are made in China, along with machinery, computers and car components
It’s not just pharmaceuticals and dietary supplements, either. Reports indicate that most of the things Americans rely on each day to live are either partially or fully made in China, or at least their raw materials come from China.

It didn’t used to be this way, of course. Before globalization took hold in our political system, America produced a bulk of its own goods – that is, until the globalist politicians from both political parties sold us all down the river by handing all manufacturing over to China.

Now, we have to import things like tires, HVAC units, appliances, textiles, metalworks, car parts, computers, machinery, medical devices, motors, broadcast equipment, tractors, concrete mixers, and practically anything else you can think of that keeps the system going directly from China.

Even natural medicine like coenzyme Q10, B vitamins, and vitamin C often come from China, which means no more of these on store shelves, either.

This is why self-reliance is so important: because there’s no telling just how bad this whole thing gets before it starts to get any better – if it ever even gets better at all, of course. And there’s also our own economy to worry about which, apart from China, isn’t exactly thriving.

“As we monitor reports of farmers going bankrupt, shopping malls going dark, homeless encampments growing (despite local governments trying to destroy them), stock markets sagging, real estate markets hesitating, and the ‘Everything Bubble’ created by Federal Reserve funny money leaking air, it’s worth remembering that in 1930 some 30% of the population still lived on farms and knew how to garden,” wrote one commenter at The Organic Prepper.

“… in contrast to today as that percentage on farms has dropped to around 1-2%.”

To keep up with the latest about how novel coronavirus is impacting the global economy, be sure to check out Pandemic.news.

There’s also a wealth of additional coronavirus coverage in video format available at the official Health Ranger Report Brighteon channel.

Sources for this article include:

TheOrganicPrepper.com

[Marta]

I have done NOTHING cause this is not gonna happen in my timeline :)
This is only another sick, ridiculous and PATHETIC attempt of spreading FEAR among the population.
Cabal and Illuminatis are about to breakdown forever, their sick and psychopathic minds don't know what to do to lead people to death since their dark agendas have collapsed.
THEY ARE THE REAL VIRUS. They are poisoning social media, mass media, forums... Only spreading THE FEAR THEY HAVE WITHIN cause their sick system is about to ruin down.
The coronavirus is only a normal influenza, the mass media are feeding a ridiculous theater around it. How many people is dying because of suicide? Nobody talks about it. It has no media covering such personal disgraces. Nobody cares, but the number of deaths is higher, very higher than the deaths caused by the influenza they called "coronavirus". How many viruses have they made popular with propaganda, only for selling vaccines? I cannot remember them all. Influenzavirus A was one of them.

[Bill Ryan]

The coronavirus is only a normal influenzaWell, maybe not.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

The virus in itself worries me the least. What worries me most and essentially is government's fascist intervention and regulations that will be pushed on the public; no amount of food and medication will protect anyone from that.

I live so far off the grid that I figure I will be one of the last people they get too!

[Caliban]

I sneezed and said "God bless you".

[Sunny-side-up]

I sneezed and said "God bless you".

I always say that when ever I hear anyone sneeze, all animals included

[Did You See Them]

Rice 'n Beans, salt, tuna, spices, oil, chicken feed.
Hand wash & Toilet paper.

[Anchor]

COVID-19 is a devious name for flu designed to make it sound a lot worse than it is. This one can cause SARS type symptoms and you don't really want them if you can avoid it.

The COVID-19 is a project in fear dissemination. It is the flu, it is an infectious man made flu disseminated into China at the time when the most people move, but it really has not worked as planned. The backup plan is failing to because not enough people are dying.

It kills just the same as bad flu does - those who cant fight it are hit worse, those who are healthy can deal with it. Overworked and stressed people suffer more than people living balanced healthy lives with fit bodies.

(Obviously Men will suffer more because everyone knows man-flu is the worst. /s)

The plot to spread fear around the world with this outbreak will fail, just like the one for the "SARS" flu did.

[DaveToo]

What did I do today to prepare?
Absolutely nothing!

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I am staying away from Chinese restaurants for a while.


Looking into adding Coloidal Silver (CS) to a saline nasal inhaler. The CS might be beneficial for viral or bacteria infection in the lungs.

[DaveToo]

I am staying away from Chinese restaurants for a while.


Good idea. :)
I've been staying away from Pacific seafood since Fukushima!

[spade]

I actually bought from the link you recommended - the Glutathione bicarbonate stuff. Thanks !

[Sunny]

I am buying Gelsemium 200C for myself and others to use if needed.

[Bill Ryan]

What did I do today to prepare?
Absolutely nothing!Made me laugh! :bigsmile: :highfive:

As I've written several times now, when I'm hiking in the mountains I always have my emergency stuff right in the bottom of my backpack. Not much, but a few small key items that could be lifesavers in extremis.

And they stay right there, all dry and sealed. They've been untouched for years, like a spare tire in a car that's never used. But I know it's all there, and so with that all taken care of it enables me to enjoy my hikes wherever I go, and whatever might happen.

:sun: :flower: :dog: :flower: :sun:

[Rosco1]

I have 'Thieves Oil' already in my stock.

It was used in the middle ages to thwart the 'Black Plague' for the gruesome task of removing all the dead bodies at the time.

Thieves oil is a blend of Essential oils: Clove, lemon, cinnamon, eucalyptus and rosemary.

So it is one drop of thieves oil to four drops of carrier oil.

[Antagenet]

I have 'Thieves Oil' already in my stock.

It was used in the middle ages to thwart the 'Black Plague' for the gruesome task of removing all the dead bodies at the time.

Thieves oil is a blend of Essential oils: Clove, lemon, cinnamon, eucalyptus and rosemary.

So it is one drop of thieves oil to four drops of carrier oil.

Great idea! Never heard of this before!
You use it by putting in tea? Massage? Infuser? Around the doorstep or gate?

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I ordered a *cool* mist humidifier. If I get any kind of respiratory problem I will use it with hydrogen peroxide added to the water. More details when I receive them.

[Rosco1]

I have 'Thieves Oil' already in my stock.

It was used in the middle ages to thwart the 'Black Plague' for the gruesome task of removing all the dead bodies at the time.

Thieves oil is a blend of Essential oils: Clove, lemon, cinnamon, eucalyptus and rosemary.

So it is one drop of thieves oil to four drops of carrier oil.

Great idea! Never heard of this before!
You use it by putting in tea? Massage? Infuser? Around the doorstep or gate?

They rubbed on just under their nose!

I'm actually making handmade soap bars with the thieves oil in it.

Infuser is a good idea, so is massage.

[Sarah Rainsong]

Earth Fare's going-out-of-business sales has helped me to stock up on herbal extracts and essential oils that I use and a few that I've wanted to get but just haven't. I also got several bottles of various colloidal silver, iodine, probiotics, and both magnesium flakes and gel.

I got Borax from Kroger, and masks from Lowe's and Walmart.

I've also started a binder to hold printouts of all the stuff I've read and bookmarked.

[Olam]

I just came back from Amsterdam , I was at the ISE show, big electronic show, lots of hands to shake...
So I started taking Liposomal vitamin C a week prior to the trip.
Back home now and all is well so far.
Will continue to take that 5000mg of vitamin C , 2-3 times a day.

[TomKat]

I checked my stock of 10:1 concentrated oregano oil. All good...

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I recently discovered that MMS has a shelf life of 12 months so I ordered more and discarded the old.
Link (https://www.atlantishealingcenter.com/1-mms-kit.html) $30
Quick shipping from Texas to Virginia.

[Bill Ryan]

I recently discovered that MMS has a shelf life of 12 monthsI very much doubt it! It's just a chemical, nothing organic. It doesn't degrade or go bad.

Here's an MMS forum thread about just that:


https://mmsforum.io/mms/25162-does-mms-have-a-shelf-life

:focus:

[Antagenet]

After many trips to local markets and supermarkets I can now report that I have
half a year of food stored away so that we can self-isolate while cooking some gourmet meals!
I guess ALL food, at this point, will be Comfort food!

I still feel underprepared and hope to have a years worth of food, soon.

I would like to suggest to my neighbors to prepare,
but I really don't want them to know how much food I have.

[waves]

What am I doing? - applying my experience and ignoring - and not infecting myself with the fear propaganda.

I sort of ignored the past virus, flu and measles scares but this one seemed especially propaganda aggressive and doomy. I decided to completely ignore any print 'following' the story and immediately turn off any tv reporter mentioning it and had a weird realization - the propaganda itself is a sort of virus!

If the 'fear-dread energy' gets into your head, the worry acts just like an attached infection that eats at you and grows, sticks and embeds itself into your mindset and then takes a lot of effort to fully get rid of when you finally realize it's over and it was all for nothing. I've long been pretty big on you attract what you focus on, so staying free of buying into fears has worked well for a long time and this is the same thing.

Of course I'll pay attention if it hits close to home, but in the meantime, it's affecting me as much as being loosely aware of the days' weather being mentioned again.

[Delight]

I would like to suggest to my neighbors to prepare,
but I really don't want them to know how much food I have.

I read that people should not divulge the food prep to even extended family because of the fear reaction people have when realizing they did not prep. I never food prepped before earlier end of last year. Still have not bought much but this is a lsit that was informative for me....

37 Foods to Hoard
Survival food storage you can get from the grocery store (https://www.happypreppers.com/37-food-storage.html)

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Mountain House foil packages are very useful for those who only want to boil water to prepare a meal.

Good idea to sample before buying in bulk. There is much variety.

I met someone who buys these foil packages, a years supply at a time.
He said he never got sick while exclusively eating from this menu for a year. At the time I met him he was back to the store to resupply for another year.

I am sure it is not as good as homemade but the contents of the foil packages should keep you alive.

[Dennis Leahy]

I recently discovered that MMS has a shelf life of 12 monthsI very much doubt it! It's just a chemical, nothing organic. It doesn't degrade or go bad.

Here's an MMS forum thread about just that:



https://mmsforum.io/mms/25162-does-mms-have-a-shelf-life


:focus:
Lots of inorganic chemicals degrade over time. Anything that reacts with oxygen, for example, will react with the little bit of oxygen in the container.

I bought MMS maybe 8 years ago, and put it on a shelf. Years later, there is some "corrosion" on one of the two containers. (I'm not home, so can't check which one.) But it did make me wonder, and sort of made me make a mental note to snag some more. If someone is actually planning to use their old MMS to ward off or cure COVD-19, I'd think it prudent to recommend having some relatively 'fresh' stuff. It's not terribly expensive, and there's no cheap way to test the integrity of the old chemicals (certainly not by color or tasting, as some suggested in that linked thread.)

[Franny]

I have had MMS degrade to mildly salty water over time, one at room temperature and one in the refrigerator. I don't recall precisely how long they were around, but both were close to 2 years old. The tops were reasonably tight as well and they were in brown bottles with droppers - if that helps :)

[Delight]

the section of this thread is food and water....

"Man cannot live by bread alone". is one of those truisms that can be endlessly dissected. The bible is full of things said like that. I am not a big bible reader but think it does transcend the common story. Understood, the words become mythic and metaphoric. The understanding comes when we have butt our heads against circumstances. Then hearing the "words" satisfies a deep trilling and inner knowing. What we went through was so much hardship, but was for a purpose. "Purpose" shows we are not simply biologic organisms.

I am ready to die except I am really worried about what will happen to my animals.

Last night I had a nightmare that was one close to when we awake but cannot shout. In the dream, I was in bed and my eyes were closed. People came in the room and were heard slapping on gloves. I knew they were taking me away. I was trying to shout "NO", "Help me".... nothing was coming out. then I felt the pinch of a hypodermic in my arm. I knew then it was a matter of time until I passed out from a drug. I was thinking that time would tell if I was going to wake up again. Then I did wake up and it was a dream and then I was sleepless.

What is happening that I am aware of seeing in China is so terrible that I am sick. It is like the concentration camps in WWII that I know were horrific, no matter how the apologists try to spin the tale. People are starving now. people are desperate. They are losing the internet and in the name of contaigen, many will just be sacrificed.

In the US, a plane load of passengers arrived with several people positively identified as carrying a viral infection which can easily be spread in close quarters. We already knew that this is the case. This does look like a scene where factions are just too happy to see a spread.

So how long is it until we face a crisis where some believe others are deadly carriers. I already saw the hysteria against "vaccine hesitance" from others who believe (wrongly) that vaccine free people are carriers of measles (a known simply benign childhood infection).

Threats to jail, murder and at the least 100% socially ostracize friends and families who refuse to vaccinate has been evident. What happens when this panacea is not available and some are seen as "super spreaders" or recovered but potentially infected?

Seriously I am ready to die. I know this is only a temporary experience. However, I don't want to die. I love living. I always wanted to accomplish a few more things. What is the most important at the moment? For one thing, I have determined already from study that living just to eat, drink and "be merry" is a superficial and actually insufficient reason. Living so as to rescue animals and people and save forests, watersheds and stop tyranny is much better as a "tonic".

Therefore, I am now open to the Universe to bring me a path to become heroic. In this present historic moment, I am asking to be courageous enough to spit in the face of the forces which are lining us up to be carried away. Sorry if that sounds extreme. I am now convinced that there is a plan that does not include the values I love. Therefore I must stand with whomever else was able to recocnize the evil and "go down" fighting.

I know others feel the same and yes, this present moment is not less than terrifying IMO. What is the heroic purpose in my life? This is the time to listen to the others like Victor Frankel who learned that when in the concentration camp, only those with GREAT PURPOSE survived.

Thanks for letting me put this statement out to the one verse choir....

[Antagenet]

Beautiful post. Thankyou!

I too will go down fighting. Every minute I live in one minute I didnt let the TPTB vampires kill me!

[Pam]

the section of this thread is food and water....

"Man cannot live by bread alone". is one of those truisms that can be endlessly dissected. The bible is full of things said like that. I am not a big bible reader but think it does transcend the common story. Understood, the words become mythic and metaphoric. The understanding comes when we have butt our heads against circumstances. Then hearing the "words" satisfies a deep trilling and inner knowing. What we went through was so much hardship, but was for a purpose. "Purpose" shows we are not simply biologic organisms.

I am ready to die except I am really worried about what will happen to my animals.

Last night I had a nightmare that was one close to when we awake but cannot shout. In the dream, I was in bed and my eyes were closed. People came in the room and were heard slapping on gloves. I knew they were taking me away. I was trying to shout "NO", "Help me".... nothing was coming out. then I felt the pinch of a hypodermic in my arm. I knew then it was a matter of time until I passed out from a drug. I was thinking that time would tell if I was going to wake up again. Then I did wake up and it was a dream and then I was sleepless.

What is happening that I am aware of seeing in China is so terrible that I am sick. It is like the concentration camps in WWII that I know were horrific, no matter how the apologists try to spin the tale. People are starving now. people are desperate. They are losing the internet and in the name of contaigen, many will just be sacrificed.

In the US, a plane load of passengers arrived with several people positively identified as carrying a viral infection which can easily be spread in close quarters. We already knew that this is the case. This does look like a scene where factions are just too happy to see a spread.

So how long is it until we face a crisis where some believe others are deadly carriers. I already saw the hysteria against "vaccine hesitance" from others who believe (wrongly) that vaccine free people are carriers of measles (a known simply benign childhood infection).

Threats to jail, murder and at the least 100% socially ostracize friends and families who refuse to vaccinate has been evident. What happens when this panacea is not available and some are seen as "super spreaders" or recovered but potentially infected?

Seriously I am ready to die. I know this is only a temporary experience. However, I don't want to die. I love living. I always wanted to accomplish a few more things. What is the most important at the moment? For one thing, I have determined already from study that living just to eat, drink and "be merry" is a superficial and actually insufficient reason. Living so as to rescue animals and people and save forests, watersheds and stop tyranny is much better as a "tonic".

Therefore, I am now open to the Universe to bring me a path to become heroic. In this present historic moment, I am asking to be courageous enough to spit in the face of the forces which are lining us up to be carried away. Sorry if that sounds extreme. I am now convinced that there is a plan that does not include the values I love. Therefore I must stand with whomever else was able to recocnize the evil and "go down" fighting.

I know others feel the same and yes, this present moment is not less than terrifying IMO. What is the heroic purpose in my life? This is the time to listen to the others like Victor Frankel who learned that when in the concentration camp, only those with GREAT PURPOSE survived.

Thanks for letting me put this statement out to the one verse choir....

Dearest Delight. I understand and share every word you wrote here. I feel exactly the same way.

[andyangel1205]

I must concur about the FEAR element and all of this.

Below is a recent channeling we did with Lightkeeper, a Mantis Being, about planetary health, etc. The discussion turned to Coronavirus and how similar things have happened on the planet for generations. Combating fear which the broader media tries to instill in everyone is paramount, along with taking care of one's own health.

I stress - this is channeled information that came through my wife - ALL MESSAGES COME FROM SPIRIT (Who no person controls).

VMC3V7JLZ44

[wondering]

Dear Delight, To become heroic...wow! I am in awe of your clarity and courage. As I get older, I just turned 77, I find I must continually redefine what keeps me here. Not career, not family which is very small and scattered, except for my husband who is 10 years older than I and not in great health. A few very dear friends scattered around the country, few nearby. I focus on the spiritual power that we all have and which I feel called to trust in and bring to bear on our world. I believe that holding and nurturing Love and Light affects the world. I believe that facing my fears is where I do this most. That is about as heroic as I can get! Living outside Detroit which is very heavily internationally travelled, I think we could easily get caught up the Wuhan "thing", whatever that actually is. I pray that whatever turns up, I can meet it with the power of my convictions. We'll see! LOL Diane

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Every day I find something to appreciate, something to love.


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[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I am trying to keep the highest personal vibration possible.. Good food, sleep, rest and positive thoughts. After a near death experience in May, I am well aware of the fragility of the physical body. I have a limited number of thoughts left in this form - so I try to choose wisely... A limited number of breaths left, so keep them as mindful as possible.
I hope the virus does not turn into a true crisis situation here in the US, but it is especially critical during those times that we "walk our talk". Good thoughts to everyone on the forum. Thanks for sharing thoughts and information.

[enigma3]

This is from the for what it's worth file. I saw this posted today on Neon Revolt's GAB feed. From an insider who knows well placed people.
Takeaways I can remember:
1. The virus is expected to infect every major city/urban area in the world and cannot be stopped. The expectation is that hundreds of millions will be infected.
2. It mutates into a deadlier form. The OP stated that if it gets into South American bats we're all in deep trouble.
3. No data from China is believable. For now, that also goes for the WHO and CDC.
4. The Chinese economy will crater soon. With so much coming from China this will have a severe domino effect, especially on the US economy. He says stock up on at least one month of food and necessities.
5. If you have stocks, get out now. The markets are expected to crash in March. He says invest in biomedics and plastics, you could be rich by the time this is history.
6. He predicted that the first EU country to get hit would be Italy, predicted a while ago.
7. The PTB didn't want to incite panic, thus keeping the truth under wraps.
8. I have also read that large doses of vitamin C is helpful.
There is much more in the post. Fascinating post. I had to enlarge it to read it.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/037/048/390/original/b41708d4c121510c.jpeg?1582472654

[wnlight]

i did some reading; surfed the net; played on the beach. [Puerto Lopez]

[bobme]

I do not worry of such hype of this virous.

If I am to get it, then I will just deal with it.

I can take whatever is thown my way. You only need to be self efficient, and understand the outdoors,{ Momma}, To survive.

There are many that some call weeds, right outside your door that are very nutrisious, and healthy. But a book of edible plants, and you will be fine.

Best to all. (not well spelled).:heart:

[Mac]

Are you dyslexic I am. When I first started to post on the internet my spelling was worse than yours. Weirdly enough learning to play music on "simple" instruments seems to have nearly cured it. You're easy to understand so don't sweat it. Might be a good idea to get a spellchecker. Btw never had dandelion soup but am going to give it a go one day. Have a wild herb and plant book somewhere but haven't read it for years, must remedy that.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I am going to purchase some Mountain House beef stew. Sampled this yesterday and it was very good.

[Sarah Rainsong]

I bought [more] groceries for stocking up. I've bought an oxygen reader, liposomal vit C & liposomal glutathione to add to my other health items.

I'm making another 3-gallon batch of super elderberry syrup.

And I'm hosting a round table discussion for my family members on Thursday, including a lot of the [non-conspiracy] information that has been shared on PA.

ETA and I bought a new herb book that includes a lot of medicinal Chinese herbs that are commonly used in landscaping here in the US and/or are invasive species (and easy to find!)

[Karen (Geophyz)]

I made the trek to the city and stocked up on some grocery items missing from my pantry. Paper good mostly, I cannot produce them on the ranch. I had a long look at my first aide supplies. I also had a long look at my fortifications. If this gets weird people will begin to steal from those they figure have stuff. I pretty much live 3 miles from nowhere but my Dad always told me to be prepared for everything!

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I want to avoid food processed in China.
Much chicken is processed there I understand.

Any other food exported and risky?

How about pork?

Do we know what brands of dog food are safe?

[enigma3]

This is very spooky. Neon's GAB feed said today that the virus infecting Iran is different than the one in China. Gulp. They did say it mutates.

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To Ron - I would not buy any pork with the Smithfield label on it. China owned.

[Mashika]

What did I do today to prepare?
Absolutely nothing!Made me laugh! :bigsmile: :highfive:

As I've written several times now, when I'm hiking in the mountains I always have my emergency stuff right in the bottom of my backpack. Not much, but a few small key items that could be lifesavers in extremis.

And they stay right there, all dry and sealed. They've been untouched for years, like a spare tire in a car that's never used. But I know it's all there, and so with that all taken care of it enables me to enjoy my hikes wherever I go, and whatever might happen.

:sun: :flower: :dog: :flower: :sun:



And they stay right there, all dry and sealed. They've been untouched for years


When my grand dad was still alive, we would go to the mountains every other week or so. We always carried a backpack full of stuff for survival like some food cans and medicine and so on. It was a primary task for someone in the group to always make sure it was dry and safe, because everyone's lives could depend on it

So about two years ago went on a trip with my little sis and before going out we had the backpack ready and then suddenly i realized we've been packing the same stuff for 10+ years...

So i checked and all kinds of expired medicine and most other stuff well past best by date (years) LOL

My (Not) survival ready pride took a big hit that day 😭🤷🏻‍♀️

I have done nothing to prepare for this current event, except i do have about half a month of stored canned groceries + water and the usual medical stuff, otherwise it is life as usual. I'm not sure but i it's my perception that doing stuff like running to buy all available food and taking tons of cash out of the bank and such would actually help in creating a bigger crisis

If there's going to be a market crash soon, won't everyone pulling stocks out at the same time cause it to begin with? People buying all available food beyond what markets/stores can handle will also cause food shortages, doesn't it? How long would it take before stores can get more food in stock and meanwhile people will go into a rampage because there's nothing to buy anywhere?

[Strat]

I haven't prepared but I always have what I call a 'go bag' ready. It's basically 3-5 days of necessities. I have this ready to rock because of annual hurricane threats. This is another big reason why I always have my vehicle well maintained, you don't want to have to get your tires changed when you're in a SHTF scenario. I made this mistake once before: had my tires changed at the last minute and on the drive home heard the sound of what I later discovered to be a muffler they damaged. The next morning I woke up and one of the brand new tires was flat. That was a lovely time..

Honestly, I'm not worried about the virus (*knock on wood). If the tide starts to change it will be easy for me to just beef up my 'stores' so to speak.

Some random 2 cents I'd have is try to learn gardening to some degree before disasters. I can't stress that enough. And also from my experience in preparing for evacuations I've discovered that the logistics of the situation is a lot harder to deal with than the physical stockpiling. Once you have a method and the logistics to go with it (if that makes sense) then everything else just falls together.



As I've written several times now, when I'm hiking in the mountains I always have my emergency stuff right in the bottom of my backpack. Not much, but a few small key items that could be lifesavers in extremis.

And they stay right there, all dry and sealed. They've been untouched for years, like a spare tire in a car that's never used. But I know it's all there, and so with that all taken care of it enables me to enjoy my hikes wherever I go, and whatever might happen.


How much does your pack weigh?

A 'show and tell' of forum member's survival packs/stockpiles would be neat.



When my grand dad was still alive, we would go to the mountains every other week or so. We always carried a backpack full of stuff for survival like some food cans and medicine and so on. It was a primary task for someone in the group to always make sure it was dry and safe, because everyone's lives could depend on it

So about two years ago went on a trip with my little sis and before going out we had the backpack ready and then suddenly i realized we've been packing the same stuff for 10+ years...

So i checked and all kinds of expired medicine and most other stuff well past best by date (years) LOL


Ha! Reminds me of this:
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[Bill Ryan]

Here's a YouTube channel, hosted by Ethan Galstad, that seems to be quite useful for Covid-19 preparedness, especially for those who may feel very concerned. That's because the best remedy for concern, about anything at all, is action.


https://youtube.com/channel/UC3UqV_Sng4W-d8DtOhW7KUw/videos

Most of his frequent updates are very short, just a few minutes long. Here's a good example. At first glance, he seems to be a very good guy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6HVI-kxWrM

[Antagenet]

This is from the for what it's worth file. I saw this posted today on Neon Revolt's GAB feed. From an insider who knows well placed people.
Takeaways I can remember:
1. The virus is expected to infect every major city/urban area in the world and cannot be stopped. The expectation is that hundreds of millions will be infected.
2. It mutates into a deadlier form. The OP stated that if it gets into South American bats we're all in deep trouble.
3. No data from China is believable. For now, that also goes for the WHO and CDC.
4. The Chinese economy will crater soon. With so much coming from China this will have a severe domino effect, especially on the US economy. He says stock up on at least one month of food and necessities.
5. If you have stocks, get out now. The markets are expected to crash in March. He says invest in biomedics and plastics, you could be rich by the time this is history.
6. He predicted that the first EU country to get hit would be Italy, predicted a while ago.
7. The PTB didn't want to incite panic, thus keeping the truth under wraps.
8. I have also read that large doses of vitamin C is helpful.
There is much more in the post. Fascinating post. I had to enlarge it to read it.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/037/048/390/original/b41708d4c121510c.jpeg?1582472654

Whoo thats QUITE a post! Glad you put it here. I enlarged and read the whole thing.

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Thanks to everyone posting here!

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[Bill Ryan]

One of several useful Food Storage Calculators, recommended by Ethan Galstad (https://youtube.com/channel/UC3UqV_Sng4W-d8DtOhW7KUw/videos). Valuable to figure out what weights of items to buy and store for x people for y weeks or months. (If you want to! But at least you have the numbers, and can make decisions based on costs.)


https://familysurvivalplanning.com/food-storage-calculator.html

[Delight]

keep a sense of humor



Police in Texas 'warn' community of meth 'contaminated with the coronavirus'
by BakersfieldNow StaffThursday, February 27th 2020s (https://kmph.com/news/local/police-in-texas-warn-community-of-meth-contaminated-with-the-coronavirus)

JOHNSON CITY, Texas — A police department in Texas is warning their community of meth that may be contaminated with the coronavirus.

In a Facebook post, the Johnson City Police Department said it has "reason to believe methamphetamine in Blanco County may be contaminated with the Coronavirus."

They are asking that if community members have meth they should have it tested at their police department before using.

And they said they are also willing to do housecalls if they prefer to keep it in the privacy of their own home.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

I decided not to read much more about it.

I went out into the forest and said prayers for the earth. I brushed my horse and smelled deeply of her freshly brushed coat. I had a long talk with my dogs about chasing Otto (my resident armadillo). I picked some fresh herbs from the garden. Burned some sage to cleanse my home. Now I think I will bake some fresh bread. I have been drying a huge batch of acorns and I need to use them up! Tonight I plan to drink the mead I made with dandelions and watch the stars!

[Bill Ryan]

I decided not to read much more about it.

I went out into the forest and said prayers for the earth. I brushed my horse and smelled deeply of her freshly brushed coat. I had a long talk with my dogs about chasing Otto (my resident armadillo). I picked some fresh herbs from the garden. Burned some sage to cleanse my home. Now I think I will bake some fresh bread. I have been drying a huge batch of acorns and I need to use them up! Tonight I plan to drink the mead I made with dandelions and watch the stars!Bravo! :sun: :flower: :sun:

Do please read this wonderful thread. It's a great remedy (and balance!) for anything at all.

Started by Ken (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4134-Ken) (all Avalon mods have real names, by long tradition), but before he joined our team his name was Forest Denizen. He's a PhD Avian Biologist.


Sublime and/or Spiritual Experiences of the Natural World. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105508-Sublime-and-or-Spiritual-Experiences-of-the-Natural-World..)

[Antagenet]

This week I started dehydrating various fruits, herbs and vegetables: kale, celery, basil, beets, bell peppers and also made beef and liver jerky in my dehydrator. Next on my list is dehydrating tomatoes, sausage, cottage cheese and eggs.

Now that I have about 7 months stored food for the 2 of us, I am branching out to buy specialty items. The prospect of being self-isolating for a long time makes me want to have as many interesting flavors and food ingredients to cook with. This week I will concentrate on finding cheeses that keep well, crackers, wines and cocktail liquors, spices I have overlooked.

I wish everyone a fun time prepping!
feels great to maximize ones chances with great supplements and food.

[James]

I'm personally not doing anything beyond how I prepare for the typical influenza season with regard to COVID-19. I'm not as concerned about my body's reaction to a possible exposure to COVID-19 as I am everyone else's reaction to the COVID-19 creeping into the States. That's what I'm preparing for, personally.

The good data so far doesn't suggest to me this is a particularly dangerous virus in the larger scheme of things... since most of my income comes from my business operations in China, I've had to look far deeper into this topic than I had wished to.

Two things to note regarding the virus itself... unlike the influenza virus, it's a bit harder to tell who may develop respiratory distress after the onset of symptoms. Yes, older/sicker folks are more apt to, but there have been some real curveballs relative to the data we've seen so far. Still, slim chances, but any added bit of "random" is something to take note of, hence the bizarre response of China. They were truly dealt a tough hand, and maybe the largest impact of this virus will be on their leadership's future stability, but that's an entirely different and complicated topic I'd be happy to discuss elsewhere.

The second note... a variant could mutate and cause some localized havoc, but this risk is inherent to all viruses.

I prepare for the flu season all year by making sure I get plenty of good sleep (7-8 uninterrupted hours), maintaining adequate blood levels of Vitamin D (40 and 80 ng/mL), and keeping my distress levels low (yoga, strength training, outdoor time.)

:sun:

But again, one of the best things anyone can do to prepare for COVID-19, especially if they live in an area it hasn't spread to just yet, and it's looking like it'll end up pretty much everywhere, is to have a decent supply of food/water/necessities in the event panic sets in throughout your town. If there's any quarantines, closures, or curfews enacted, it's best to be prepared.

And the silly paper masks don't do anything!!

:p

[prc]

I will use vinegar to desinfect my hands.

[Bill Ryan]

Three excellent threads on a forum at peakprosperity.com (http://peakprosperity.com) (Chris Martenson's website).


Medicinals, Herbals and Supplements Megathread (https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/coronavirus-medicinals-herbals-and-supplements-megathread-for-january-2020/)
Home Prep, Deep Pantry & Gardening Megathread (https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/coronavirus-sanitation-ppe-and-self-quarantine-megathread-for-january-2020/)
Sanitation, PPE and Self Quarantine Megathread (https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/coronavirus-sanitation-ppe-and-self-quarantine-megathread-for-january-2020/)

[Strat]

Tonight I plan to drink the mead I made with dandelions and watch the stars!

Sign. Me. UP!!

[DaveToo]

What did I do today?
Simple, I read this article...
https://steemit.com/coronavirus/@corbettreport/coronavirus-the-cures-will-be-worse-than-the-disease

[Sue (Ayt)]

Well, have been somewhat "prepped" for a long time, so haven't hustled a lot. Stocked up on the vitamins, and herbs and spices we already use, bought some extra paper and soap goods. And some extra baking soda, dogfood, hydrogen peroxide, and iodine. All things that will not go to waste.

Have to admit, that we got the N95 masks way back during the "bird flu H5N1 scare" haha. Sure hope they still work and haven't deteriorated. My canned goods from back then exploded a couple years ago. (like the yukky canned beef stew which we don't eat) But the case of spam from back then still sits there... Wonder if spam would preserve for eons in a time capsule? I surely learned the lesson to NOT stock up on stuff that you would not choose to use in everyday life, though!

[Delight]

Three excellent threads on a forum at peakprosperity.com (http://peakprosperity.com) (Chris Martenson's website).


Medicinals, Herbals and Supplements Megathread (https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/coronavirus-medicinals-herbals-and-supplements-megathread-for-january-2020/)
Home Prep, Deep Pantry & Gardening Megathread (https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/coronavirus-sanitation-ppe-and-self-quarantine-megathread-for-january-2020/)
Sanitation, PPE and Self Quarantine Megathread (https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum-topic/coronavirus-sanitation-ppe-and-self-quarantine-megathread-for-january-2020/)


This is what I am listening to now.

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[DaveToo]

Today I prepared for COVID-19 by watching this excellent video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtfqUtW_8AA&feature=youtu.be

I would encourage other members here to do the same.
A possible link between COVID-19 and 5G ?

[Sadieblue]

I have stocked food in, not too much, but hopefully enough. Also have Thieves Oil and diffuser on
the ready, did get the salt sniffer with Himalayian salt, that someone suggested on here, some
good quality iodine, a supply of elderberry syrup, OTC cold/flu products.

[Antagenet]

I've made a list - Things to get on my last trip before isolating.
Hagen Daas ice cream on top of list!
Then veggies that last awhile... cabbage, carrots, onions
Then dairy the great love of my life!!!

[Deux Corbeaux]

A friend of mine suggested this: 😎

42650

[Bill Ryan]

6 cases in Ecuador now, and reported runs on supplies already in the stores and supermarkets.

I've got quite a lot of stuff in what Chris Martenson (https://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisMartensondotcom/videos) calls 'a deep pantry', but I'm going to make an early run into town today to get a few more inexpensive longlife items like cereal dog food, oil, powdered milk, washing powder, and so on. I'm normally a cheerful optimist. But being a balanced realist also, every indication now suggests this is now going to get a lot worse, everywhere, pretty quickly.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

This weekend I made cookies from acorn flour. My oak trees gave me hundreds of acorns this year. I am very happy with how they turned out. I made rosemary, vanilla and honey cookies! I also have another batch of dandelion mead brewing. Thistles are coming up and I like to harvest some early. They are packed with fibre, protein, phosphorus, magnesium, calcium, copper, zinc, and other nutrients. The silymarin extracted from milk thistle is known to have antioxidant, antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties. You can make a poultice for wounds with the greens and the root is rather like artichoke. And you can make a lovely tea from the seeds!

I have stocked my house with things I can't produce...like toilet paper! I work from home so I am pretty much always self quarantined!

I have also started my garden! Everyone should have a garden, working the soil is so good for your mind and soul. You get some exercise and the food you produce is an added bonus!

I slept outside under the trees last night, so I could watch the sky and listen to the trees talk. I am convinced that the big oak trees have the souls of many in them, they have seen many things and have much to say. I prayed for my family and friends who are in the city. I prayed for all of mankind.

[Sue (Ayt)]

This weekend I made cookies from acorn flour. My oak trees gave me hundreds of acorns this year. I am very happy with how they turned out. I made rosemary, vanilla and honey cookies! I also have another batch of dandelion mead brewing. Thistles are coming up and I like to harvest some early. They are packed with fibre, protein, phosphorus, magnesium, calcium, copper, zinc, and other nutrients. The silymarin extracted from milk thistle is known to have antioxidant, antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties. You can make a poultice for wounds with the greens and the root is rather like artichoke. And you can make a lovely tea from the seeds!

I have stocked my house with things I can't produce...like toilet paper! I work from home so I am pretty much always self quarantined!

I have also started my garden! Everyone should have a garden, working the soil is so good for your mind and soul. You get some exercise and the food you produce is an added bonus!

I slept outside under the trees last night, so I could watch the sky and listen to the trees talk. I am convinced that the big oak trees have the souls of many in them, they have seen many things and have much to say. I prayed for my family and friends who are in the city. I prayed for all of mankind.

Wow, Geopjhyz, I would love to learn more about you make that acorn flour. I would also like your cookie recipe.
I wonder if you might start a thread to share your knowledge (and that of others here) of living with nature? That would be a wonderful thread!

[Karen (Geophyz)]

I would love to! But I am not sure how to start a thread.......:HELP!:

[Kryztian]

I live in a high rise apartment building and there are air vents connecting the units. I just bought Gorilla Tape to cover them. This isn't entirely motivated by COVID-19, but it was the final straw. Someone gave me a BlueAir® air quality monitor. I notice spikes in the VOC and air particle level, sometimes because of things I am doing, but sometimes, completely mysteriously, while I am sleeping or not home. So, it is time to rely less on the air vents and more on opening the windows for fresh air.

And while I agree it is good to be prepared for an emergency, and I am buying extra food, I also am trying to inoculate myself to the fear mongering that is going on out there - it begins with the media, but there are a few people who are addicted to TV news (usually CNN) and focus on rebroadcasting the doom and gloom. So if the discussion gets to intensely fear mongerish, I try to change the topic, walk away, or if no other option exists, firmly state that I have heard enough discussion on the topic.

[East Sun]

Absolutely nothing!!!!

[Antagenet]

After watching this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuZEpAqK0S0
If Clif is right
and the worst case scenario happens.
Banks closing
Well, why keep a lot of $ in banks?
So I am going to take more of mine out and keep cash at home.

[Delight]

Vitamin C!!!

6-elCYFhqJs

[TomKat]

6 cases in Ecuador now, and reported runs on supplies already in the stores and supermarkets.

I've got quite a lot of stuff in what Chris Martenson (https://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisMartensondotcom/videos) calls 'a deep pantry', but I'm going to make an early run into town today to get a few more inexpensive longlife items like cereal dog food, oil, powdered milk, washing powder, and so on. I'm normally a cheerful optimist. But being a balanced realist also, every indication now suggests this is now going to get a lot worse, everywhere, pretty quickly.

Heard word of mouth today they're starting to strip the stores of goods in the Frisco Bay Area (California) ... extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds...

[rgray222]

Worth watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWY0oZV51VY

[onawah]

Adding Moringa powder to my regimen
(I tried to before but couldn't get past the taste--the greenest taste I've ever encountered, right up there with wheat grass juice. :yuck:
But I'm going to do it this time. !!
I will probably get some seeds too and try it as a microgreen, which will taste better, no doubt. )

Moringa Contains All Essential Amino Acids Your Body Needs
by Dr. Joseph Mercola
March 02, 2020
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/03/02/moringa-amino-acid-composition.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20200302Z1&et_cid=DM473168&et_rid=821578157

"STORY AT-A-GLANCE
There are 20 basic amino acids that make up the proteins in your body. Nine of them — histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, tryptophan, threonine and valine — are considered “essential” as none of them are made by your body and therefore must be obtained from your diet
Moringa (Moringa oleifera), also known as horseradish tree or drumstick tree, is an excellent protein source, containing 30.3% crude protein and 19 amino acids in total, including all nine essential amino acids
Virtually every part of the Moringa plant is edible and has medicinal qualities, and most parts can be consumed either raw or cooked. You can also harvest the plant as a microgreen
Moringa leaves, roots, seed, bark, fruit and flowers have antitumor, antiepileptic, anti-inflammatory, antiulcer, antispasmodic, diuretic, antihypertensive, cholesterol lowering, antioxidant, antidiabetic, hepatoprotective, antibacterial and antiviral activities
Moringa has potent antibiotic activity against a wide variety of pathogens, including Escherichia coli, Salmonella typhimurium, Candida and Helicobacter pylori
There are 20 basic amino acids that make up the proteins in your body.1,2 In other words, amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. Conversely, when your body breaks down or digests proteins, amino acids are what's left behind.

Nine of these — histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, tryptophan, threonine and valine — are considered “essential” as none of them are made by your body and therefore must be obtained from your diet.

Three of these essential amino acids — leucine, isoleucine and valine — are known as branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) because they have a branched molecular structure. While most amino acids are broken down in your liver, BCAAs are broken down primarily in your muscle. As such, they help improve exercise performance and reduce the breakdown of muscle.

Beef is one dietary protein source, containing 18 different amino acids, including the nine essential ones.3 Eggs are another excellent source of all nine essential amino acids, plus another nine nonessential amino acids.4

However, protein is also found in plant foods. Moringa (Moringa oleifera), also known as horseradish tree or drumstick tree, is an excellent protein source, containing 30.3% crude protein and, according to the African Journal of Biotechnology, 19 amino acids,5 including all nine essential amino acids.6

Moringa also contains beneficial fatty acids (44.57% being a-linolenic acid7), beta-carotene, phenolics, zeatin, quercetin, beta-sitosterol, kaempferol,8 flavonoids and isothiocyanates.9

Many of the health benefits of Moringa — which include the prevention and treatment of inflammatory diseases, neurodysfunctional diseases, diabetes and cancer — are attributed to its glucosinolate10 and isothiocyanate11 content. The isothiocyanate moringin,12 for example, has been shown to have potent anti-inflammatory and cytoprotective effects.13

Health Effects of Essential Amino Acids
As detailed in several research articles including the journal Amino Acids, the nine essential amino acids — all of which are found in Moringa — have important biological roles, including the following:14

Isoleucine15 — Helps stabilize your blood sugar and is required, along with leucine and valine, for muscle synthesis, repair, energy and endurance.

Leucine16 — Helps lower blood sugar that is elevated and triggers the production of growth hormone. Along with isoleucine and valine, leucine promotes the growth of muscle, bone and skin.

Valine17 — Helps maintain muscle metabolism and nitrogen balance. It’s also used in tissue repair and energy production.

Lysine18 — Is needed in the production of hormones, collagen, enzymes and antibodies. It also helps combat viruses and plays a role in calcium assimilation and protein construction in bones and muscle.

Methionine19 — Is converted into cysteine and vice versa, based on the needs of your body. It’s also a primary source of sulfur in your body, which is required for healthy hair, skin and nails.

Tryptophan20 — Aids in the production of niacin (vitamin B3), which is required for serotonin and melatonin production.

Phenylalanine21 — Plays a role in memory formation and nervous system function, and helps reduce inflammation.

Threonine22,23 — Important for healthy cardiovascular system, central nervous system, immune system and liver function. It also plays a role in the digestion of fats, and promotes healthy collagen, muscle tissue, skin and bones.

Histidine24 — Required for red and white blood cell production, and aids in tissue repair. Importantly, histidine helps protect your nerves by maintaining the myelin sheath around them.

Certain amino acids also help improve the antioxidant properties of peptides.25 Peptides are strings of amino acids that are shorter than those making up proteins. Due to their smaller size, peptides are broken down more easily than proteins, and have been shown to have antioxidant activity.26,27

As described in the paper “Amino acid composition and antioxidant properties of Moringa oleifera seed protein isolate and enzymatic hydrolysates:”28

“Some of these amino acids, especially Tyr [tyrosine], Met [methionine], His [histidine] and Lys [lysine] have been shown to play specific roles in improving antioxidant properties of peptides.

Besides, aromatic amino acids with a large side group such as His … and Trp [tryptophan] … contribute to the antioxidant potency of peptides because they act as hydrogen donors.

According to Sarmadi, the interaction of peptides with lipids or entry into target organs can be enhanced by the hydrophobic properties, which helps in promoting the antioxidant effects of peptides.
Moringa — A Powerful Multipurpose Plant
Moringa may be one of the most important yet vastly underutilized plants available. Virtually every part of it is edible and has medicinal qualities, and most parts can be consumed either raw or cooked. Globally, the leaves, roots, pods and flowers are most typically consumed.29

You can also harvest the plant as a microgreen. As noted in the mini-review “Health Benefits of Moringa Oleifera,” published in the Asian Pacific Journal of Cancer Prevention (APJCP) in 2014:30

“Moringa oleifera is a multi-purpose herbal plant used as human food and an alternative for medicinal purposes worldwide. It has been identified by researchers as a plant with numerous health benefits including nutritional and medicinal advantages.

Moringa oleifera contains essential amino acids, carotenoids in leaves, and components with nutraceutical properties … An important factor that accounts for the medicinal uses of Moringa oleifera is its very wide range of vital antioxidants, antibiotics and nutrients including vitamins and minerals. Almost all parts from Moringa can be used as a source for nutrition with other useful values.”

Health Benefits of Moringa
According to a 2011 paper31 on the nutritional composition of Moringa leaves, “The values of amino acids, fatty acids, minerals and vitamin profiles reflect a desirable nutritional balance.” A 2007 paper in Phytotherapy Research also describes Moringa’s benefits, noting that:32

“… [T]he leaves, roots, seed, bark, fruit, flowers and immature pods act as cardiac and circulatory stimulants, possess antitumor, antipyretic, antiepileptic, antiinflammatory, antiulcer, antispasmodic, diuretic, antihypertensive, cholesterol lowering, antioxidant, antidiabetic, hepatoprotective, antibacterial and antifungal activities, and are being employed for the treatment of different ailments in the indigenous system of medicine …”

Other studies report Moringa:

Helps protect liver, kidney, heart, testes and lung health33

Has analgesic properties34

Has antiulcer activity35

Helps lower blood pressure36

Protects against radiation37

Helps modulate immune function38

Has potent antibiotic activity against a wide variety of pathogens, including Escherichia coli, Salmonella typhimurium, Candida albicans and Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori)39,40

Has anti-inflammatory41 and antiviral activity, thanks to quercetin42,43,44

Moringa Is an Inexpensive Way to Optimize Your Nutrition
Moringa offers many of the same medicinal benefits as broccoli. Both also contain all the essential amino acids. Moringa, however, is far more economical to grow. It’s extremely hardy and drought resistant, making it an attractive alternative — particularly in underserved populations worldwide where health care and Western medicines are hard to come by.45

The fact that you can eat more or less the whole tree in a variety of different ways also makes it an attractive option. The long seed pods, colloquially known as Moringa drumsticks, are a common staple in Indian cuisine. For information and a few sample recipes, see NDTV Food’s website.46

You can also harvest these seeds, sow them, and harvest them like microgreens, i.e., while they’re small like sprouts. For a quick review of how to do this, see the video above. For guidance on how to grow Moringa trees in general, see my previous article, “How to Grow Moringa Tree.” https://articles.mercola.com/gardening/how-to-grow-moringa.aspx

Last but not least, research has confirmed Moringa has a very high degree of safety,47 although high doses of seed extracts, specifically, may have toxic effects.48
Sources and References
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2 Proteinstructures.com, The 20 Amino Acids and Their Role in Protein Structures
3 Vet Med Nauki. 1980;17(8):31-5
4 Incredibleegg.org, Protein
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13 Nutrients July 2019; 11(7): 1547
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30 Asian Pacific Journal of Cancer Prevention 2014; 15(20): 8571-6, Abstract
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[Kryztian]

6 cases in Ecuador now, and reported runs on supplies already in the stores and supermarkets.


I've heard a similar situation is happening in Indonesia. But I am not noticing that here in the U.S. The news is constantly talking about COVID-19 and schools are working on tentative closing plans and churches are revising how to give communion, but the shelves are still full at the grocery stores. I think this is because Americans are so reliant on the news media for what to do so that people only panic about the things CNN tells them to panic on.

[DaveToo]

6 cases in Ecuador now, and reported runs on supplies already in the stores and supermarkets.


I've heard a similar situation is happening in Indonesia. But I am not noticing that here in the U.S. The news is constantly talking about COVID-19 and schools are working on tentative closing plans and churches are revising how to give communion, but the shelves are still full at the grocery stores. I think this is because Americans are so reliant on the news media for what to do so that people only panic about the things CNN tells them to panic on.

Well up here in Canada, the CBC has been whipping the public into a COVID-19 fear mongering frenzy!
They have had front page headline news stories about the importance of stocking up on food supplies now.

[wondering]

Geophyz, Sleeping outside under trees and listening to them talk sounds so wonderful Could you hold in thought and intent others who would like to be there with you doing that? It’s awesome just to know that someone is doing that. Diane

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Prepping for isolation and disruption of utilities when people do not show up for work.

If you are going to eat freeze dried food, you must have a way to boil water and have a water filter (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=178). In a worstcase scenario that will mean using small twigs in a small camp stove (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=669). Twigs are easy to dry and harvest using gardening shears.

If you have food but not a working water flush toilet, a composting toilet (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=216) and a composting bin might save your marriage.

Don't forget soap and when there is no toilet paper (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=2303)

Navigating short term emergencies (http://ronmauer.net/blog/)

[XelNaga]

How I prepared:

I just firmly stated to myself: "This will not affect me in any way".

That's it, preparation done.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

Geophyz, Sleeping outside under trees and listening to them talk sounds so wonderful Could you hold in thought and intent others who would like to be there with you doing that? It’s awesome just to know that someone is doing that. Diane

I will keep you all in my thoughts and my heart as I am listening and responding to my trees! I generally sleep outside at least once a week. It keeps me in balance with nature.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

I am going to stay in the forest for a few days. Something is calling me to go to the isolation and quiet, I need to go find out what it is.

[Sarah Rainsong]

It took me a bit of work (planning & compiling multiple shopping lists/trips took way more work and much longer than I anticipated) but I have finally managed something I've wanted to do for years.

I have a 28-day menu (that was the easy part) with a master pantry list of everything I need for an entire 4-wks of groceries (that includes food & non-food items) AND another month's worth of a back-up pantry list! So I have effectively 2 months worth of groceries. Stock gets rotated to the front and as I work through the master pantry, I pull from the back-up pantry to restock and then new supplies go into the back-up. Whew.

The best thing is that it's almost all everyday normal stuff. I just have duplicates. So I will definitely use every thing I have.

I did get some powdered milk. If I don't end up reconstituting it to drink, I can use it for baking.

The only other non-regular item I wanted but couldn't get was powdered whole eggs. Those went out of stock quickly and are now only available at crazy high prices. Fortunately, my sis has chickens. So I'm not too worried about it.

I've still got some work to do on the health aspect, cause I want herbs and supplies I can locally source. But I'm good for most anything for the next month or so, depending on what happens.

The last thing I have to do before I dive deeper into my herbal studies is to print out recipes for each of my 28 suppers. I'm head cook, so if I get sick, the rest of them need to know what to do. (Not worried about not having meals, they all know how to cook something, even the 9 yr old ...but I don't want them messing up my carefully planned menu! :bigsmile:)

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Went to the store to buy hand sanitizer and they were out.
Added some more soap to my inventory. Very important and it is inexpensive.

[Delight]

Went to the store to buy hand sanitizer and they were out.
Added some more soap to my inventory. Very important and it is inexpensive.


Can't find Purell or other hand sanitizers? Here's how to make it at home with vodka or rubbing alcohol
Kelly Tyko
USA TODAY
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/03/04/hand-sanitizer-recipe-purell-shortage-2020-coronavirus-prevention/4947807002/)
Dr. David Agus, a professor of medicine and engineering at University of Southern California's Keck School of Medicine, said it’s “definitely OK" and a "great idea" to make your own hand sanitizer.

“The bottom line is most of these are 70% of alcohol or higher,” Agus said, adding there’s no magic number. “The virus isn't going to say, 'Hey, you're 59% alcohol, therefore I'm going to be alive.' As long as you're in that range, I think you're doing OK. This virus has what we call an 'envelope' on it, and the envelope is very sensitive to alcohol, which kills the virus.”

There are also widely circulated recipes using vodka as the main ingredient, including one posted on Good Housekeeping magazine's website.

Two biology professors from Benedictine University in Lisle, Illinois, say consumers should pay attention to the percentage of alcohol present when using vodka.

Tanya Crum, an assistant professor, and Jayashree Sarathy, an associate professor, told USA TODAY that the concentration of ethanol in 80 proof vodka is only 40% and is "not concentrated enough to kill viruses." They suggest 180 proof spirits, which have 90% ethanol.

Agus, who specializes in treating patients with advanced cancer, recommends making a recipe with isopropyl alcohol or ethanol alcohol over vodka. But if you have to use vodka, he also suggests 180 proof or a higher percentage of alcohol “have some benefit.”



How to take Vitamin C form the frontlines in China

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[AutumnW]

This weekend I made cookies from acorn flour. My oak trees gave me hundreds of acorns this year. I am very happy with how they turned out. I made rosemary, vanilla and honey cookies! I also have another batch of dandelion mead brewing. Thistles are coming up and I like to harvest some early. They are packed with fibre, protein, phosphorus, magnesium, calcium, copper, zinc, and other nutrients. The silymarin extracted from milk thistle is known to have antioxidant, antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties. You can make a poultice for wounds with the greens and the root is rather like artichoke. And you can make a lovely tea from the seeds!

I have stocked my house with things I can't produce...like toilet paper! I work from home so I am pretty much always self quarantined!

I have also started my garden! Everyone should have a garden, working the soil is so good for your mind and soul. You get some exercise and the food you produce is an added bonus!

I slept outside under the trees last night, so I could watch the sky and listen to the trees talk. I am convinced that the big oak trees have the souls of many in them, they have seen many things and have much to say. I prayed for my family and friends who are in the city. I prayed for all of mankind.

So charming a post. Acorn cookies! I've never heard of acorn flour before. I pray too because if this virus isn't too lethal, we are bound to get something worse...and soon. Close to 8 billion people on the planet and that's got to be 6 billion too many. Population growth has slowed way down, so that is positive, but we have to start making a concerted effort to drop the population through attrition, or I fear the worst. You are new here. Welcome!

[Delight]

When a person is dehydrated, IV fluids are used. If you cannot get to a hospital, oral rehydration can help
Oral rehydration website (https://rehydrate.org/solutions/homemade.htm)


Lifehacker formula (https://lifehacker.com/make-your-own-sports-drink-5170355)
Measure all ingredients precisely. Small variations can make the drink less effective or even harmful. Mix the following:

1 quart (950 mL) water
½ teaspoon (2.5 g) baking soda
½ teaspoon (2.5 g) table salt
¼ teaspoon (1.25 g) salt substitute (potassium-based), such as Lite Salt or Morton Salt Substitute
2 tablespoons (30 g) sugar
You can tweak the amount of sugar you want to include and add your own flavors, avoiding artificial dyes and preservatives in the process.

[Philippe]

I pray too because if this virus isn't too lethal, we are bound to get something worse...and soon. Close to 8 billion people on the planet and that's got to be 6 billion too many. Population growth has slowed way down, so that is positive, but we have to start making a concerted effort to drop the population through attrition, or I fear the worst.

Please reconsider what you wrote. There are billions of souls in the universe and we live in a disaster zone with many souls looking for a body to complete their search. In this galaxy there have been many organized planets with billions of habitants. It went wrong for several reasons. This is not my belief, I could recover memories. The solution must come from a peaceful expansion of humanity to habitable planets. Wish for that. Mars with its destroyed civilization can be recovered. Do not do the bidding of the depopulation agenda. Family planning yes but the depopulation agenda comes from mentally sick rulers. Be well.

[pueblo]

Went to the store to buy hand sanitizer and they were out.
Added some more soap to my inventory. Very important and it is inexpensive.

Buy rubbing alcohol (isopropanol), it comes in 70% and 99% proof, can be bought in 5 litre containers, dilute this with water and use in a spray bottle/diffuser to make a cheap and very effective hand/surface sanitizer .

[Bill Ryan]

I am going to stay in the forest for a few days. Something is calling me to go to the isolation and quiet, I need to go find out what it is.:sun:

So important. Starting early, I spent all yesterday on a high mountain hike with my dog. I was able to disconnect from the human experience and reconnect with nature, which is always there. I know many reading this fully understand!

Days like that are what keep me balanced and grounded, reminding me of so much that's just as real as what we read in our news feeds, but is much less often reported. And it also helps to remind us of the bigger picture (the much bigger picture!), in which our individual human lives are so very ephemeral.

Of course, we're all eternal spiritual beings, even more eternal that the mountains and the forests. Where we're all just now is one of our playgrounds, and/or one of our stages on which we act things out in improvised action-learning theater.

So I'm never diminishing who we are, or what we all do or strive for. But the biggest pictures are always important never to forget. They're just so huge, that sometimes we need to step way back to see them.

[pyrangello]

1) My grandmother use to take rubbing alcohol and water 50/50 and put in on a washcloth and lay it on your forehead and arms when running a fever.
2) For a sore throat gargle with apple cider vinegar
3) 15 minutes a day of the sun or 5000iu of Vitamin D-3 both equal
4) Tea, lemon, honey, cayenne pepper, apple cider vinegar and shot of whiskey
5) for respiratory OIL OF OREGANO 2-3 drops in mason jar of water in room temperature, just sip it during the day, always shake the jar first before sipping, oil stays at top without shaking. Helps with your chest/lungs big time
6) vicks on the bottom of your feet at night or boil into air in your house
7) checking into thiefs oil, could rub that too on the bottom of your feet or add to tea or boil in air in your house
8) 1 glass of warm water with baking soda and lemon everyday for your alkaline level
9) I have also heard of cutting an onion in half and leaving it on top of a mason jar until it turns brown -cut end up sucks in bacteria ??? Comments
10) and yes a quiet place to balance your thoughts for a time everyday.

Thanks Delight for that Re-hydration recipe, last time I got sick and dehydrated the last thing I wanted to do was go to the store to buy electrolytes, I really appreciate this and will pass this along to all .

[IChingUChing]

I bought "brennspiritus" in the DIY shop here in Germany (denatured alcohol/methylated spirit in english) which is 96.5% ethanol to make my own hand sanitizer. The chemists have all run out of both sanitizer and alcohol so we're improvising.

Then went out at dusk and walked through the misty forest as the sun went down. The birds were singing and the stream was gushing down to the river at the bottom. The air was beautifully fresh. A great way to end today!

[Antagenet]

onawah
Thanks for posting about the moringa plant!
I am growing one, and now am encouraged to experiment.
I might make another Fire cider and put moringa in it!
I might make a moringa liquor. :highfive:

[Antagenet]

It took me a bit of work (planning & compiling multiple shopping lists/trips took way more work and much longer than I anticipated) but I have finally managed something I've wanted to do for years.

I have a 28-day menu (that was the easy part) with a master pantry list of everything I need for an entire 4-wks of groceries (that includes food & non-food items) AND another month's worth of a back-up pantry list! So I have effectively 2 months worth of groceries. Stock gets rotated to the front and as I work through the master pantry, I pull from the back-up pantry to restock and then new supplies go into the back-up. Whew.

The best thing is that it's almost all everyday normal stuff. I just have duplicates. So I will definitely use every thing I have.

I did get some powdered milk. If I don't end up reconstituting it to drink, I can use it for baking.

The only other non-regular item I wanted but couldn't get was powdered whole eggs. Those went out of stock quickly and are now only available at crazy high prices. Fortunately, my sis has chickens. So I'm not too worried about it.

I've still got some work to do on the health aspect, cause I want herbs and supplies I can locally source. But I'm good for most anything for the next month or so, depending on what happens.

The last thing I have to do before I dive deeper into my herbal studies is to print out recipes for each of my 28 suppers. I'm head cook, so if I get sick, the rest of them need to know what to do. (Not worried about not having meals, they all know how to cook something, even the 9 yr old ...but I don't want them messing up my carefully planned menu! :bigsmile:)

rainsong, I really like your idea of organizing recipes. I have food preps but not recipes yet. Now you have motivated me to get some recipes together. Should we start a prep recipe thread?

I couldn't find powdered eggs anyplace so am going to try dehydrating and/or salt curing some eggs.

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Went to the store to buy hand sanitizer and they were out.
Added some more soap to my inventory. Very important and it is inexpensive.

I have a prepping friend who told me he got some baby wipes and poured some alcohol in the container and voila... virus killing wipes!

[Sarah Rainsong]

It took me a bit of work (planning & compiling multiple shopping lists/trips took way more work and much longer than I anticipated) but I have finally managed something I've wanted to do for years.

I have a 28-day menu (that was the easy part) with a master pantry list of everything I need for an entire 4-wks of groceries (that includes food & non-food items) AND another month's worth of a back-up pantry list! So I have effectively 2 months worth of groceries. Stock gets rotated to the front and as I work through the master pantry, I pull from the back-up pantry to restock and then new supplies go into the back-up. Whew.

The best thing is that it's almost all everyday normal stuff. I just have duplicates. So I will definitely use every thing I have.

I did get some powdered milk. If I don't end up reconstituting it to drink, I can use it for baking.

The only other non-regular item I wanted but couldn't get was powdered whole eggs. Those went out of stock quickly and are now only available at crazy high prices. Fortunately, my sis has chickens. So I'm not too worried about it.

I've still got some work to do on the health aspect, cause I want herbs and supplies I can locally source. But I'm good for most anything for the next month or so, depending on what happens.

The last thing I have to do before I dive deeper into my herbal studies is to print out recipes for each of my 28 suppers. I'm head cook, so if I get sick, the rest of them need to know what to do. (Not worried about not having meals, they all know how to cook something, even the 9 yr old ...but I don't want them messing up my carefully planned menu! :bigsmile:)

rainsong, I really like your idea of organizing recipes. I have food preps but not recipes yet. Now you have motivated me to get some recipes together. Should we start a prep recipe thread?

I couldn't find powdered eggs anyplace so am going to try dehydrating and/or salt curing some eggs.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Went to the store to buy hand sanitizer and they were out.
Added some more soap to my inventory. Very important and it is inexpensive.

I have a prepping friend who told me he got some baby wipes and poured some alcohol in the container and voila... virus killing wipes!

I love sharing recipes! But all my recipes are regular recipes, not specific for prepping. I use a lot of frozen vegetables and meats, and I know a lot of people want all shelf-stable foods. But I could try to convert some, if you think it's worth it. It would be a good thought exercise to try to figure out how to make meals with only shelf-stable foods.

[Anchor]

I reviewed my already existing plans, checked how long everything had left, and said to myself: "Good job Anchor".

I did top up the fuel I have in the shed, but that is not really part of my plan, that's everyday life here on the farm.

[Rebecca]

I live in Washington state, and in the Seattle area at that. Fortunately I do not live in Seattle. However, a location just a few minutes from my home allegedly had a positive test result of this virus.

I DO hate the name they chose. "Corona-virus"...sounds like a monster. Yet supposedly it has to do with the virus being 'crown-shaped'.

Though there isn't a large outbreak in my city, some stores will have the clerk request that you use hand sanitizer at the register. Sanitizer and wipes at some stores has also been running low. I haven't been out all day yesterday but I will see how bad it is when I go out today as far as supplies go. Fortunately I was given a stash of sanitizing wipes and have a large supply.

I am relieved that so far it hasn't been affecting children. Yet a school in the county I live in has been closed anyway. My son hasn't been in school for about a month due to a recent move but I plan for him to start again next week. I hope the city I live in doesn't have a big outbreak that makes his new school shut down too.

To prepare I have been giving my son a Vitamin C supplement, a high quality one that has a fruit and vegetable extract. It includes immune boosting garlic and ginger. I also give him ginger tea, keep our diets low in refined sugars and other immune weakening additives (which I generally do anyway). Remember the phrase 'an apple a day keeps the doctor away?' Well, lately my son will eat 2-3 large organic apples a day. He will even go into the fridge and grab one himself without asking. This brings joy to my heart as the extra nutrients will help his immune system stay strong.

I love lemons and need to go out to get a stash. That is my preferred way of soaking my cells in Vitamin C. I'll make lemon water and then eat the inside of the lemon after much of the juice is squeezed out. I can eat several a day like this if I have a large supply.

Since I have a child I have more responsibility to prepare and protect his health. I've heard some say that this is a fake endemic. Fake or not, I have to be prepared regardless.

One of my biggest fears is that this will be a "Problem-Reaction-Solution" scenario in which the deaths and catastrophic outcomes will be used as an excuse to enforce more VACCINES. Bad enough Washington state recently took away the philosophical exemptions for schools so I had to get my son a religious exemption.

It's ridiculous because the same schools that mandate vaccines will give children GMOs, MSG, animal products from factory farms, REFINED SUGARS in excess quantities, all types of immune weakening substances. Recently my son went to a school at a community college and due to "life threatening allergies" I wasn't allowed to bring him any food at all, period. Not even fresh produce. Fortunately the school he is going to now won't do this and I can pack him food. But the school that didn't allow food from home? They would give the kids processed foods for snacks half of the time, which weakens the immune system. And even if they gave the kids something like apples for snacks, apples are on the 'dirty dozen' list and if they aren't organic contain large amounts of pesticides.

Anyway... my point is... what disappoints me the most is that our system puts so much emphasis on 'medical' and drug based solutions while still giving our children, the foundation of our future, immune weakening foods each day. Some schools are improving, I toured one that had things like 'avocado' on the menu and some organic foods... yet this is rare. What angers me is that the mainstream media puts too little focus on the natural ways we can protect ourselves during these outbreaks and the importance of a healthy lifestyle overall. I am not saying medical interventions are never necessary or that all pharmaceuticals are bad... But I do think nutrition and natural remedies need so much more attention and research.

Out of all of these coronovirus articles in the mainstream I've read so far, only one mentioned eating fresh fruits and vegetables. Out of all the Coronovirus fliers I've seen NONE mention nutrition as a preventative measure, they all focus on washing hands and sanitizer as well as wearing masks when you are sick. These fliers need to stress the importance of maintaining your immune system on a daily basis from the INSIDE out. Our world would be so much stronger against these illnesses if people took care of their inner worlds.

Probiotics don't get much mention either. While sanitizer is good for some situations, many brands kill off our 'good army of bacteria'. We need to replace that or use sanitizers that don't kill the good guys.

Anyway... I just hope this doesn't become an excuse for vaccines to be forced upon us worse than they already are and that it ends before more public places shut down. I'm a single mother with bills to pay. While I am taking a course on how to earn money from home it may be months or years before I can actually survive doing that. For now I do need schools to stay open and to be able to work outside of the home.

I appreciate having a place to write this all out. Being in Washington it can be stressful to see the constant headlines and updates, to go out and feel the anxiety of other people rising...

I do hope you all get through this and thanks to everyone for sharing their input.

The best outcome would be for advances in natural health to come to the surface... say... if a person tested positive heals them self with natural remedies and sparks some awareness in the media. I hope the opposite doesn't happen... Messages of 'eat all the processed foods you want, take a vaccine and you're good' need to drown out.

Best of luck, everyone.

[Pam]

It took me a bit of work (planning & compiling multiple shopping lists/trips took way more work and much longer than I anticipated) but I have finally managed something I've wanted to do for years.

I have a 28-day menu (that was the easy part) with a master pantry list of everything I need for an entire 4-wks of groceries (that includes food & non-food items) AND another month's worth of a back-up pantry list! So I have effectively 2 months worth of groceries. Stock gets rotated to the front and as I work through the master pantry, I pull from the back-up pantry to restock and then new supplies go into the back-up. Whew.

The best thing is that it's almost all everyday normal stuff. I just have duplicates. So I will definitely use every thing I have.

I did get some powdered milk. If I don't end up reconstituting it to drink, I can use it for baking.

The only other non-regular item I wanted but couldn't get was powdered whole eggs. Those went out of stock quickly and are now only available at crazy high prices. Fortunately, my sis has chickens. So I'm not too worried about it.

I've still got some work to do on the health aspect, cause I want herbs and supplies I can locally source. But I'm good for most anything for the next month or so, depending on what happens.

The last thing I have to do before I dive deeper into my herbal studies is to print out recipes for each of my 28 suppers. I'm head cook, so if I get sick, the rest of them need to know what to do. (Not worried about not having meals, they all know how to cook something, even the 9 yr old ...but I don't want them messing up my carefully planned menu! :bigsmile:)

rainsong, you definitely win for organized prepping! That is absolutely amazing. Your family is very lucky to have you. I probably have enough food for the same amount of time but I have to admit there was no organized planning. I am just going to have to create food from some basic incredients. One thing I was sort of happy to find was dehydrated green peppers and onions. In a pinch they can zing up a rice and bean dish. Just realized I don't have a huge amount of garlic, oh well.

I am so happy you came to Avalon, I am really apppreciating your contributions.

[TomKat]

You might not want to be tested for the virus. If self-employed, it could seriously damage your business. The nightmare of quarantine:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/06/the-nightmare-of-living-quarantined-under-coronavirus/

[Sarah Rainsong]

I live in Washington state, and in the Seattle area at that. Fortunately I do not live in Seattle. However, a location just a few minutes from my home allegedly had a positive test result of this virus.

I DO hate the name they chose. "Corona-virus"...sounds like a monster. Yet supposedly it has to do with the virus being 'crown-shaped'.

Though there isn't a large outbreak in my city, some stores will have the clerk request that you use hand sanitizer at the register. Sanitizer and wipes at some stores has also been running low. I haven't been out all day yesterday but I will see how bad it is when I go out today as far as supplies go. Fortunately I was given a stash of sanitizing wipes and have a large supply.

I am relieved that so far it hasn't been affecting children. Yet a school in the county I live in has been closed anyway. My son hasn't been in school for about a month due to a recent move but I plan for him to start again next week. I hope the city I live in doesn't have a big outbreak that makes his new school shut down too.

To prepare I have been giving my son a Vitamin C supplement, a high quality one that has a fruit and vegetable extract. It includes immune boosting garlic and ginger. I also give him ginger tea, keep our diets low in refined sugars and other immune weakening additives (which I generally do anyway). Remember the phrase 'an apple a day keeps the doctor away?' Well, lately my son will eat 2-3 large organic apples a day. He will even go into the fridge and grab one himself without asking. This brings joy to my heart as the extra nutrients will help his immune system stay strong.

I love lemons and need to go out to get a stash. That is my preferred way of soaking my cells in Vitamin C. I'll make lemon water and then eat the inside of the lemon after much of the juice is squeezed out. I can eat several a day like this if I have a large supply.

Since I have a child I have more responsibility to prepare and protect his health. I've heard some say that this is a fake endemic. Fake or not, I have to be prepared regardless.
I hear you! I have six. I admit to getting a twinge of annoyance and maybe even a little envy when I hear people saying things like, "I did nothing!" Of course, that's just my ego response. I really love what I do and wouldn't trade it for anything! But being responsible for others is a big responsibility. And whether or not the virus is fake (I don't think so), the economic fallout is very real and just starting.


One of my biggest fears is that this will be a "Problem-Reaction-Solution" scenario in which the deaths and catastrophic outcomes will be used as an excuse to enforce more VACCINES. Bad enough Washington state recently took away the philosophical exemptions for schools so I had to get my son a religious exemption.

It's ridiculous because the same schools that mandate vaccines will give children GMOs, MSG, animal products from factory farms, REFINED SUGARS in excess quantities, all types of immune weakening substances. Recently my son went to a school at a community college and due to "life threatening allergies" I wasn't allowed to bring him any food at all, period. Not even fresh produce. Fortunately the school he is going to now won't do this and I can pack him food. But the school that didn't allow food from home? They would give the kids processed foods for snacks half of the time, which weakens the immune system. And even if they gave the kids something like apples for snacks, apples are on the 'dirty dozen' list and if they aren't organic contain large amounts of pesticides.

Anyway... my point is... what disappoints me the most is that our system puts so much emphasis on 'medical' and drug based solutions while still giving our children, the foundation of our future, immune weakening foods each day. Some schools are improving, I toured one that had things like 'avocado' on the menu and some organic foods... yet this is rare. What angers me is that the mainstream media puts too little focus on the natural ways we can protect ourselves during these outbreaks and the importance of a healthy lifestyle overall. I am not saying medical interventions are never necessary or that all pharmaceuticals are bad... But I do think nutrition and natural remedies need so much more attention and research.

Out of all of these coronovirus articles in the mainstream I've read so far, only one mentioned eating fresh fruits and vegetables. Out of all the Coronovirus fliers I've seen NONE mention nutrition as a preventative measure, they all focus on washing hands and sanitizer as well as wearing masks when you are sick. These fliers need to stress the importance of maintaining your immune system on a daily basis from the INSIDE out. Our world would be so much stronger against these illnesses if people took care of their inner worlds.

Probiotics don't get much mention either. While sanitizer is good for some situations, many brands kill off our 'good army of bacteria'. We need to replace that or use sanitizers that don't kill the good guys.
Preach it, sister! Pretty much the only suggestions for dealing with this virus are (1) clean your hands (2) hope there's a vaccine. And not only do they not get into other preventative measures, they actively denigrate anything that's not pharmaceutical!

Nutrition is poo-pooed (that's a scientific term, btw ;) ) And we know vitamin C is extremely important for this specific virus--they even have studies touting it! That's easy and safe and should be shouted from the rooftops.


Anyway... I just hope this doesn't become an excuse for vaccines to be forced upon us worse than they already are and that it ends before more public places shut down. I'm a single mother with bills to pay. While I am taking a course on how to earn money from home it may be months or years before I can actually survive doing that. For now I do need schools to stay open and to be able to work outside of the home.

I appreciate having a place to write this all out. Being in Washington it can be stressful to see the constant headlines and updates, to go out and feel the anxiety of other people rising...

I do hope you all get through this and thanks to everyone for sharing their input.
It does help to share your thoughts, doesn't it? I hope things work out for you. Don't forget to take care of yourself. It really is okay to let the screen babysit for you while you take care of yourself--whether that's a bit of extra sleep or meditation or whatever. Sorry if I sound preachy. That's my biggest peeve: the stunning lack of support for mothers, especially single mothers! And also families in general. And caregivers of all kinds! :rant: Okay, I won't go any further--this isn't the thread for that. But :hug:


The best outcome would be for advances in natural health to come to the surface... say... if a person tested positive heals them self with natural remedies and sparks some awareness in the media. I hope the opposite doesn't happen... Messages of 'eat all the processed foods you want, take a vaccine and you're good' need to drown out.

Best of luck, everyone.

TCM has shown to be helpful, but here in the west, it's been pretty much slammed. Anything that seems to 'catch on' is doomed in MSM. But I'm hoping this will change. As this virus progresses, more and more lies and manipulations are being revealed. The CDC has pretty much lost all credibility. People are looking elsewhere for advice and finding lots of information available on nutrition and simple natural support like vitamin C and ginger. Let's hope that's a trend that continues.

[Sarah Rainsong]

It took me a bit of work (planning & compiling multiple shopping lists/trips took way more work and much longer than I anticipated) but I have finally managed something I've wanted to do for years.

I have a 28-day menu (that was the easy part) with a master pantry list of everything I need for an entire 4-wks of groceries (that includes food & non-food items) AND another month's worth of a back-up pantry list! So I have effectively 2 months worth of groceries. Stock gets rotated to the front and as I work through the master pantry, I pull from the back-up pantry to restock and then new supplies go into the back-up. Whew.

The best thing is that it's almost all everyday normal stuff. I just have duplicates. So I will definitely use every thing I have.

I did get some powdered milk. If I don't end up reconstituting it to drink, I can use it for baking.

The only other non-regular item I wanted but couldn't get was powdered whole eggs. Those went out of stock quickly and are now only available at crazy high prices. Fortunately, my sis has chickens. So I'm not too worried about it.

I've still got some work to do on the health aspect, cause I want herbs and supplies I can locally source. But I'm good for most anything for the next month or so, depending on what happens.

The last thing I have to do before I dive deeper into my herbal studies is to print out recipes for each of my 28 suppers. I'm head cook, so if I get sick, the rest of them need to know what to do. (Not worried about not having meals, they all know how to cook something, even the 9 yr old ...but I don't want them messing up my carefully planned menu! :bigsmile:)

rainsong, you definitely win for organized prepping! That is absolutely amazing. Your family is very lucky to have you. I probably have enough food for the same amount of time but I have to admit there was no organized planning. I am just going to have to create food from some basic incredients. One thing I was sort of happy to find was dehydrated green peppers and onions. In a pinch they can zing up a rice and bean dish. Just realized I don't have a huge amount of garlic, oh well.

I am so happy you came to Avalon, I am really apppreciating your contributions.

Totally agree about the peppers and onions! Kroger carries frozen chopped ones, so it's really easy to get and stock my freezer with them. They have the peppers, the onions, a mirepoix blend (carrots, onions, celery), and a cajun mirepoix blend (peppers, onions, celery). So easy. I use them all. the. time.

I really want to try growing garlic and ginger this year.

And, thanks peterpam! :sun: I am happy I'm here! And I love reading your posts, too!

[DaveToo]

I DO hate the name they chose. "Corona-virus"...sounds like a monster. Yet supposedly it has to do with the virus being 'crown-shaped'.
.

There are several different viruses that are responsible for the common cold.
One of them is the coronavirus.

[Luxlucis]

I am not the author of this post, but I am sharing it.


......................................



Forgive my brutal honestly...

I have spent the last few weeks watching EVERYONE in the "mainstream news lies!" community swallow this COVID nonsense like whores. Extra long latency + many/most have few/mild symptoms = this went around the world before they knew what the hell it was.

You had it already, you are alive, get over it. The danger of this joke-of-a-virus is the media, and your fear.

Go sit in the sunshine and make some vitamin D. Put down the immune-stifling candy and chocolate for a while. Or don't... because you already got it and won, and it doesn't matter.

You can feel free to kneel down in front of the news and swallow... or you can use your freaking brain.

Real Infected Cases: Billions.
Real Death Toll: a few thousand.
Logic: The kill-rate is insanely low, and if you die from coronavirus you had already better hoped you didn't get the flu, because your ship was sinking any way.

Anyone else discover the electromagnetic mechanism of action of a new chemical entity? Anyone else involved with FDA procedures in the approval process? Who's going to come defend the mainstream media?

"HERE YE HERE YE! Come one and all, ye organic chemistry and virology experts of the internet... all 10 million of you!"

Eyes open. No fear.

[in Russian accent]: "Besides... I am not scared of virus. Virus is very small. I crush it."

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Avoid touching your face.
Available at your pet store.


42716

[Antagenet]

Avoid touching your face.
Available at your pet store.


42716

hahhaha
that made my day!!
Hilarious!!!!!

Love it!
I need one!!!

[Brightstar]

So funny....really cheered me up👍👍👍

[Delight]

I am planning to limit and wean myself form the internet because it is just terribly frustrating to see such a schism between what my experience predicts and what people are expecting. I have some food vitamin C other supplements and and I have bought some zinc also. I am going to thoroughly clean my house, plan to leave shoes outside after bleaching. I have to get someone to come help with some garden bush hogging. I plan to go to work as a massage therapist but am extra cautious about hand washing and think I will paint my nostrils with iodine?

In the big picture, my plan is to NOT go to the hospital if I become deathly ill. I will just die. That is because I am just not interested in that much manipulation of my body. If It COMES TO THAT..... but I feel inside it won't. I feel that my "weird" way of looking at my body treatments shows I can suck up the virus with my imaginal vacuum cleaner and then use supplemental placebos to cinch the inner certainty. My main issue is worry about the collective but I have to use the Serenity Prayer and that I am responsible for what I focus on and to REFOCUS. It is what it is.....

I mention that because NOW IS THE TIME TO BECOME SUPERNATURAL (Joe Dispenza)REFUSE TO ACCEPT STRESS and enter the field.

mNTUwIFslKM

[gini]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pjAfhAhkwk Tips from Tao master Mantak Chia how to deal with the virus.

[Lawrence]

Working from home + supermarket online delivery

[David Trd1]

Over the last 5 weeks, every trip undertaken to the supermarket (twice weekly normally) i’ve decided to buy 5 different items each as extras to my normal shopping. Nice and calm like. I’ve now got about 6 weeks worth of food( and dark chocolate :Angel:)and all the essentials, soap, toilet paper, sanitizer. On top of my rolling needs. It’s been interesting to see it coming more and more into the consciousness of folks and becoming visible on the supermarket shelves...

Am also living in a cottage/cabin on the edge of the rainforest here in New South Wales and have endeavoured to do a ton of garden work I never have the time for if it comes to staying at home for a bit.

Really appreciating the threads related to this whole event here. My other 4 siblings are spread out all over the globe and have been passing the peak prosperity videos and other level analysis posted on another tread here to them and they are taking notice(they are all locked into the MSM reality, in degrees at least)

Hopefully this all passes without the worst case scenario unfolding....

[Karen (Geophyz)]

I will do no more.

I spent the weekend in the forest listening.

I know this is not good in some places but I feel it will pass.

Stay healthy, bask in the sunshine and eat non processed food.

[Sadieblue]

I am noticing peoples shopping carts in my area of Tn.
And they are picking up essentials, vit. C shelf is empty, also alcohol, soap, toilet paper
and such is getting scarce.

I did visit the Dollar General store for some aloe vera, but all was sold out.
The clerk said that shipments have really slowed down, so soon they will not
be getting anymore supplies in anytime soon.

Thanks to this thread and others, I feel I am well stocked and ready
to isolate as much as possible, trying to not go out among crowds and
trying my best to warn others, who seem to get angry and make excuses, and get upset with other folks stocking up.
I live about five miles out from our small town, and I do have a plot for a garden.

[bettye198]

I know I am in immune suppressed crisis due to a severe neuropathy that came on from a groin injury ( possible tear) I have to live with that and already tried a lot of things. Getting a stair stepper next. However, the rest of my body is up to date good, other than joint pains like most of you, pain is always the stopper. I am very fortunate I have an advanced nutritionist chiropractor spouse who tests and makes sure I am getting the supplements I need. We have anti viral, anti bacterial anti fungus supplements that are killer and a lot of it is from the amazon forest barks roots leaves (you are in the right place Bill) and this is ancient medicine that has combated disease for eons.
We eat a lot of greens, grow sprouts and microgreens which we believe is a crux of high valued nutrients. I take goat whey protein powder that digests well with fruits and organic almond butter and organic green tea.
Lucky I am that I live now in the boonies of Tennessee amid nature. Stress level decreased and no need to go into any big city. No need to travel by plane or bus or train.
What a lot of people do not know is that coronavirus has been around for a very long time. I think someone said its even noted on a lysol bottle but I have no confirmation of that. It is among the HUNDREDS of virus's in our body around our environment and some are triggered and others lay dormant like fungus which acts like TB bacillus nesting until it is ready to rear its head. The whole hype about this virus is unfortunately for those who do not have the education nor do they wish to know. You cannot really test for this virus in truth, you can only test the polymerase which is an enzyme that synthesizes polymers or nucleic acids. We are talking about the many chains of DNA or RNA that assemble molecules for protein barriers that surround the virus. So they are not poking the virus but the polymerase. Viruses have protein shields which makes it stealthy and has the ability to morph or encroach on other organisms and basically is parasitic. What I find almost hilarious is that there are so many hundreds of types and which ones are they attempting to test? Can they decipher which ones, maybe some are very similar. I am simplifying here for the sake of easy reading. There are labs out there who can conduct adequate testing but those are not being allowed to. I have read about that. So the agenda persists.
Vaccines will not be available for 1-2 yrs if that, and here is my take on vaccines. When you create a demolition mission with vaccines against a "deadly" virus you are in a war. After the residue from the explosion of the demolition i.e. the excreta, it has no where to go but reside in the body and create all kinds of chaos, damage, illness etc. The medical community does not require some kind of help draining the body of the excreta so it backfires. In smart advanced holistic treatment, there must always be a plan in place to drain the residue after the attack on any virus, bacteria or fungus, toxin, metal or parasite. So kidney and liver drainage is paramount. If there is lung involvement, for sure. Because all these stories of the coronavirus creating a feeling that the patient cannot breathe is true. It attacks the goblet cells and does not allow for the normal mucus production. Thus they are drowning or shut down on the alveoli that expands and cannot return to its normal shape. As everyone has already said, if the immune system is shot, you are playing with fire. If the immune system is suppressed even a little bit, you need reinforcement.
In the words of George Carlin, "Its all bulls**t and its bad for ya"

[Sarah Rainsong]

I made 2 gallons of extra strong elderberry syrup and tried a new recipe of cough & flu syrup: pine, star anise, and cinnamon.

I finally found a use for some expired glycerin. I made some hand sanitizer with it for college dd.

And I made my whole family sit down and watch Dr. Campbell's update from today. :bigsmile:

[Satori]

I went about my business and personal life as usual. I didn’t freak out or cause anyone else to freak out over this. This too will pass.

[Patient]

My preparation has been trying to get over this bad flu bug that I have contacted.

This current bug that I have has been trying to keep me down for about 3 - 4 weeks already. I have never experienced a bug like this before. I have none of the symptoms of the covid-19. Mostly chills, body aches, lots of sleeping and lack of strength.

What it has done is brought all of the things to fight a flu bug to the very forefront of my mind. I know that I still have a lot of things to do in this life so I do not expect to leave this place anytime soon.

Having learned of covid-19 when we did, I was already stocking up on items - but having done so early on, we had to re-supply. :) The good thing that I see is that the stores in our area do not seem to be running low on items.

With a large family, extra things can go much quicker than expected. Keeping kids from helping themselves when you have raised them to be self reliant in many ways is tougher than many might think. :)

We are also lucky at this time as we home school our kids. We live in a rural area, yet close enough to the city for ease of access. However, our lively hood is already being affected by the cancellation of projects due fears of the virus.

So much fear has been projected - of course the reality of such a virus must be acknowledged. It would be interesting to see the result of the affects of this virus in terms of "fear vs reality".

[TomKat]

Got this to pass along:
The new NCP coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days, how can one know if he/she is infected. By the time they have fever and/or cough and goes to the hospital, the lungs is usually 50 % Fibrosis and it's too late! Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning: Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stuffiness or tightness, etc.,it proves there is no fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicating no infection. In critical times, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. SERIOUS EXCELLENT ADVICE by Japanese Doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat is moist, never DRY. Take a few sips of water every 15 mins at least. WHY? Even if the virus gets into your mouth...drinking water or other liquids will WASH them down through your esophagus into the stomach. Once there in tummy...your stomach ACID will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly....the virus can enter your windpipes and into the LUNGS. That's very dangerous.

[Agape]

I would also recommend (again) cleaning teeth and mouth several times a day, especially after returning from outside no matter whether you wear a face mask 😷
Not to forget about gargling with diluted pharmacy grade (3%) hydrogen peroxide (one cap in half glass water) and/or natural herbal gargles that help to liquify and relieve mucus accumulated in various throat and nasal cavities and along the trachea down to lungs.

Shower or bath with warm water and keep spitting and cleaning all the mucus accumulated in you. If you do this regularly you will notice improvement in your breathing.

Make sure you get enough “fresh air”, potentially oxygen everyday. I’ve noticed thousands of people in civilised European countries living in almost tightly sealed rooms, houses and apartments running in hypoxic environments especially during winter. In these rather warm but low oxygen environments body and brain biorhythms are suppressed and most organs operate on low function including lungs, thus they are vulnerable and prone to infections.
Large percentage of respiratory diseases in cities occur in young children and non smokers despite the bad adverts because urban population live under bubble of various noble gases and chemicals.

So no matter what we do we are still floating in the same “chemical soup” together with trillions of microbes.


Above all, thanks and good luck


🙏

[bettye198]

I do not have facebook, thus the paste and copy from another site. Well worth the read. Perhaps there are more intelligent Medical providers who feel the same way.

app-facebook
Abdu Sharkawy
last Thursday

I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

[Agape]

I do not have facebook, thus the paste and copy from another site. Well worth the read. Perhaps there are more intelligent Medical providers who feel the same way.

app-facebook
Abdu Sharkawy
last Thursday

I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.



I would strongly support this doctors voice, the voice of reason.

The price we are currently paying in medical and sanitation expenses is not bigger than the price of our carelessness.

I’ve been to many places around the world if only in last decade or two and most of all I’m observer to the transformation of our respective cultures and environments.

Prague used to be rather peaceful and clean town when I was a kid,one of historical capitals of Europe for many centuries, landmark of intertwining cultures and influences for thousands of years, along natural river curves surrounded by 7 hills ( quite like San Francisco in CA).
So was London and other old European cities, pleasant to inhabit. So was Kathmandu.

Following sharp increase in the numbers of automobiles, motorcycles, vans and the rest, all of the above places are dirty and overwhelmed,
not because the “number of humans” but because these hot smelly engines, iron cages filling about every road, avenue and corner,
around piles of garbage that can not be contained

without proper action.

I’ve seen the level of waste accumulated in streets of Europe reached to the level of so called “third world countries” who did not have waste management till about recently.

Don’t blame my eyes can see 🙏

Walking around shops full of products that won’t be bought in most cases anyway, thousands of stores and millions of products.
The residue of which is piling right behind the corner.

Does it have anything to do with “being religious” or is it just plain old being lazy and careless ?

Because we will be paying for our carelessness for as long as it takes. We will be paying for the carelessness of people we left living in slams, in the streets and under bridges who host good millions of microbes for free.

It’s the call of the time for a civilised entity to discern corn from the chuffs and life from death,
knowledge and wisdom from prejudice and convictions.

Levels of uneducation in many areas pertaining to human biology and sanity are still ginormous so are the levels of poverty even if not openly disclosed.

Whether you call them artificial reasons or not, they have to be remedied by intelligent action. With better education and information at hand people can’t fool each other so easily.

Of all things, be with your heart 🙏🌟🙏please ❤️ realise that we are all part of each other and this world for little flip of space time ..
and suffering of one is suffering of all.

Till the principles of humanity are not well understood the state of humanity itself can’t be achieved, individual realisations in that matter are thus only partial and incomplete bearing partial results.
If we agree to it being “always the same”, the principle locks in itself and does not allow “planetary ascension”.


Agreeing to some good measures of moderation and self containment I think we are getting there though


Please don’t give up


🙏🌟🙏

[Sadieblue]

Read this today regarding taking Elderberry for the COV-19, could cause inflammatory cytokine production.

Here is the Link....https://survivalblog.com/letter-elderberry-wuhan/

[Sarah Rainsong]

Read this today regarding taking Elderberry for the COV-19, could cause inflammatory cytokine production.

Here is the Link....https://survivalblog.com/letter-elderberry-wuhan/

My herbal group was literally just talking about this. This is some of the replies:
I have seen several references to this article. From what I understand, and from what I have heard other more experienced herbalists report, there is no evidence that elderberry causes a cytokine storm.

There are no reported cases of this happening. Elderberry does simulate the inflammatory response, but it is also anti-inflammatory. Also, it appears that studies were conducted on sambucol, not whole elderberry, so therefor its not an applicable study.

Also from what I have read, there are no reported cases of actual, observed cytokine storms related to Coronavirus... it’s all merely conjecture at this point.

But I am still doing more research so I could be wrong.

Also


This is one of those controversial things where: you show me 3 herbalists who say not to use elderberry and I’ll show you 5 who say you can and should.

As Stephen Buhner stated, and has doubled down on his FB, elderberry is an immune modulator meaning is regulates the response as needed.

I think this thinking has been tempered with the caveat that one could use the elderberry until such a time that the virus takes a turn then stop using.

[Sunny]

Read this today regarding taking Elderberry for the COV-19, could cause inflammatory cytokine production.

Here is the Link....https://survivalblog.com/letter-elderberry-wuhan/

It's interesting that you would say that. I have not used elderberry, but in my case, I noticed a difference in illnesses starting in the 1980's. In those days I used simple remedies like peppermint tea, echinacea and golden seal. I was proud of my good health. I felt I could lick whatever came my way.

In the 80's I started to have cold and flu type illnesses that I did not remember having before. I bought immune enhancers, The Wellness Formula, etc., and it was all good. I thought something had changed. though, in the kinds of illnesses going around.

In the present day. I don't tend to buy immune enhancers. My intuition is that it would be counter productive for some of the flu-like illnesses going around. I use homeopathy or antibiotics like grapefruit seed extract. I am sure there is a vast range of substances that work, but when I see a product now that says "enhance your immune system!", I don't buy it.

[Antagenet]

Got this to pass along:
The new NCP coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days, how can one know if he/she is infected. By the time they have fever and/or cough and goes to the hospital, the lungs is usually 50 % Fibrosis and it's too late! Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning: Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stuffiness or tightness, etc.,it proves there is no fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicating no infection. In critical times, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. SERIOUS EXCELLENT ADVICE by Japanese Doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat is moist, never DRY. Take a few sips of water every 15 mins at least. WHY? Even if the virus gets into your mouth...drinking water or other liquids will WASH them down through your esophagus into the stomach. Once there in tummy...your stomach ACID will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly....the virus can enter your windpipes and into the LUNGS. That's very dangerous.

Very helpful info! New info! Thanks!

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I have followed Peak Prosperity for awhile and so I am stocked up with a deep pantry.This morning stopped by local health food market for fresh bread- a total panic buy was in motion- people with carts filled and a palpable sense of fear in the air.

Would like to remind all of us with meditation and grounding spiritual practices of any sort to hold space and pray for others and for all species during this time. The fear and anxiety generated by humans in distress can be food for some of the parasitical entities.The mental environment and vibrational energy we create is totally within our control.Spiritual preparation and discernment is equally as important as physical preparation. Peace and good health to you all.

[Earth Angel]

I went to the beer store and stocked up in case they close.
Went to six different stores to find toilet paper because I actually need it and got some groceries

Oh and lots of 🍿

[Chester]

Looked for and found this:

Ingredients for Homemade Hand Sanitizer

2/3rd cup of 99% rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol) or ethanol

1/3rd cup of aloe vera gel

8-10 drops of an essential oil, optional (such as lavender, vanilla, peppermint, grapefruit)

Mix the ingredients in a bowl and stir with a spoon. Use a funnel to pour the liquid into an empty pump/squirt bottle.

[Chris Gilbert]

What did I do today? Something more people should be doing, lots of Qigong!


"White blood cells increased significantly 2 hours after actual Qi-training (p < 0.05) but not sham training compared with pre-intervention There were significant increases in lymphocytes 2 hours after actual but not sham Qi-training (p < 0.05) and monocyte numbers were significantly increased immediately after both actual Qi-training (p < 0.01) and sham training (p < 0.05)."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12856872?fbclid=IwAR3m1dZanCc-MoAsTq_uWgcDudh3tqaYlVkMJ1srTU7CdLXHgSvebcOsu1I

While my wife and I do have the other home remedies and supplements that many use, in my work I've honestly encountered many who took supplements/vitamins and such religiously, but were still loaded down with sick Qi and a resulting weak immune system.

[Nenuphar]

I looked up how to make a mustard plaster. My mother trained as a nurse in the 60s and said that mustard plasters were still being used in hospitals (and in homes, of course) when she was a student to deal with serious chest colds, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. She said they were really quite effective for breaking up congestion and infection in the chest.

There are many articles and videos about how to make mustard plasters. The proportions of mustard powder to flour vary from 'recipe' to recipe. I have also seen recipes where coconut flour was used instead of wheat flour, and where corn starch was used in addition to wheat flour. Some instructions recommend applying a thin layer of oil (e.g., olive oil) to the skin before applying the plaster. Some recommend topping the plaster with a dampened towel.

Here is one example of how to make a mustard plaster.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYnFgMEb8kE

[Anchor]

So, for today, I'm working from home this week as part of a social distancing initiative.

Social distancing for me is easy as I am the CEO of antisocial. And anyway people that fight in supermarkets and TP hoarders just p155 me off. Zombies the lot of them. Bah!

In other news "Today Chuck Norris was exposed to the Coronavirus. The virus is now in quarantine for the next two weeks"

[jaybee]

So, for today, I'm working from home this week as part of a social distancing initiative.

Social distancing for me is easy as I am the CEO of antisocial. And anyway people that fight in supermarkets and TP hoarders just p155 me off. Zombies the lot of them. Bah!

In other news "Today Chuck Norris was exposed to the Coronavirus. The virus is now in quarantine for the next two weeks"


haha :)

NIYZVSElmj4

[jaybee]

I ordered some (more) Camphor Essential Oil - still have a bit left in a bottle that I used last December -

To use in a steam inhalation -

I think I might have had 'it' starting early last December and before anything was being said about coronavirus I was saying that I felt like I'd been hit with a biological weapon - worse sore throat I'd ever had in my life - gruff voice could hardly speak - EXTREME dizziness for two or three days - then the cough from hell... you have to cough and cough up the phlegm and gunk off the lungs before it has chance to lie around and turn into a bacterial infection (IMO) - I had camphor oil in so used that in the steam to encourage coughing all the gunk up - and when I rechecked on it's properties it was a very good thing to use...

so I'm getting some more and think I will use it as a preventative as well as it said somewhere that (among other things) it can kill viruses..

edit to add.... it is said that the Coronavirus begins with a DRY cough but I think that although it might begin a bit dry the lungs will soon start getting tight and sticky with phlegm as the body tries to clear out the offending virus... and like I said before I think it's important to clear out the lungs all the time even though it's exhausting to do that - so it doesn't develop into pneumonia -

[Antagenet]

I looked up how to make a mustard plaster. My mother trained as a nurse in the 60s and said that mustard plasters were still being used in hospitals (and in homes, of course) when she was a student to deal with serious chest colds, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. She said they were really quite effective for breaking up congestion and infection in the chest.

There are many articles and videos about how to make mustard plasters. The proportions of mustard powder to flour vary from 'recipe' to recipe. I have also seen recipes where coconut flour was used instead of wheat flour, and where corn starch was used in addition to wheat flour. Some instructions recommend applying a thin layer of oil (e.g., olive oil) to the skin before applying the plaster. Some recommend topping the plaster with a dampened towel.

Here is one example of how to make a mustard plaster.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYnFgMEb8kE

I wonder if I can grind up mustard seeds to make this?
Any other ideas for a good respiratory plaster?

[Delight]

I had never heard of Khan Academy. It's an online education resource.


Updated March 14, 2020

Remote learning resources (https://www.khanacademy.org/about/blog/post/611770255064350720/remote-learning-with-khan-academy-during-school) for schools, teachers, and parents
Hello parents and teachers,

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We are having daily (weekdays) 9am PST/12 EST live streams on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter for students, parents and teachers navigating school closures.

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Parents
• Daily schedules for students ages 4-18 to keep learning using Khan Academy during school closures.

• Parent Quick Start Guide

• Parents: Frequently Asked Questions about School Closures

• A free webinar for parents is taking place Wednesday, March 18, at 8:00 pm ET / 5:00 pm PT. Recordings will be available for those who can not attend.

Teachers

• Free Teacher Resources

• Watch a recording of a free webinar for teachers who would like to learn how to use Khan Academy.

Khan Academy is a free resource for students, teachers, and parents.
What is Khan Academy? We offer exercises, quizzes, and tests so students can practice and master skills, as well as instructional videos to help students learn or review material.

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[Sue (Ayt)]

Well, my husband cancelled his routine dental cleaning.

[Sarah Rainsong]

I wonder if I can grind up mustard seeds to make this?
Any other ideas for a good respiratory plaster?[/QUOTE]

Ground mustard is exactly that, so go for it! Might even be better freshly ground, as a lot of herbs start losing their volatile oils as soon as they're ground (like black pepper, cardamom, nutmeg, cinnamon, cloves, etc--you get a better product if you use freshly ground).

As for other plasters, I've been thinking about a castor oil pack. Edgar Cayce utilized that a lot, and I've had very good success with it in other areas. I have no experience with it in the case of pneumonia, but I'm prepared for it just in case.

[Agape]

I would like to remind the folks selling us all kinds of hand sanitizers for high price, it’s non-essential item and nonsense to pack on those unless we are travelling.
Even then good soap wash is usually far more efficient than layers of hand sanitizer.

Alcohol itself is very good cleanser but not a disinfection.

Overuse of disinfection itself does not necessarily prevent cross contamination, vis hospital environments, surgery rooms etc.

Good results can be achieved with any one cleanser we are already packed in our household and hot water. Check everything for the right chemistry. Hot water in itself is also very efficient.


Much of the less developed parts of the world had poor sanitation because or while they miss access to clean drinking water then electricity so they had hot water later than everyone else.
In the meantime lots of chemical cleaners were invented to target the situation of people with no hot water !

Therefor; water is the best immediate aid, your friend at the times of disaster.



....


Some jokes of recent: Is this the coronavirus corner ?

In reality conversation:”Oh you look like you’ve just come from Wuhan 😀

“No sorry, we are pure Tibetans”😷

No hand shakes sir, no hand shakes.



🙏

[Nenuphar]

Ground mustard is exactly that, so go for it! Might even be better freshly ground, as a lot of herbs start losing their volatile oils as soon as they're ground (like black pepper, cardamom, nutmeg, cinnamon, cloves, etc--you get a better product if you use freshly ground).

Agreed! And spices are even less expensive to buy whole than powdered, in some cases.

[Delight]

I would like to remind the folks selling us all kinds of hand sanitizers for high price, it’s non-essential item and nonsense to pack on those unless we are travelling.
Even then good soap wash is usually far more efficient than layers of hand sanitizer.

Alcohol itself is very good cleanser but not a disinfection.

Overuse of disinfection itself does not necessarily prevent cross contamination, vis hospital environments, surgery rooms etc.


I read this with interest.


Why Is 70% the Most Effective Concentration of Isopropyl Alcohol for Disinfection? (https://blog.gotopac.com/2017/05/15/why-is-70-isopropyl-alcohol-ipa-a-better-disinfectant-than-99-isopropanol-and-what-is-ipa-used-for/)

Isopropyl alcohol, particularly in solutions between 60% and 90% alcohol with 10 – 40% purified water, is rapidly antimicrobial against bacteria, fungi, and viruses. Once alcohol concentrations drop below 50%, usefulness for disinfection drops sharply. Notably, higher concentrations of alcohol don’t generate more desirable bactericidal, virucidal, or fungicidal properties.

The presence of water is a crucial factor in destroying or inhibiting the growth of pathogenic microorganisms with isopropyl alcohol. Water acts as a catalyst and plays a key role in denaturing the proteins of vegetative cell membranes. 70% IPA solutions penetrate the cell wall more completely which permeates the entire cell, coagulates all proteins, and therefore the microorganism dies. Extra water content slows evaporation, therefore increasing surface contact time and enhancing effectiveness. Isopropyl alcohol concentrations over 91% coagulate proteins instantly. Consequently, a protective layer is created which protects other proteins from further coagulation.

Solutions > 91% IPA may kill some bacteria, but require longer contact times for disinfection, and enable spores to lie in a dormant state without being killed. A 50% isopropyl alcohol solution kills Staphylococcus Aureus in less than 10 seconds (pg. 238), yet a 90% solution with a contact time of over two hours is ineffective. Some disinfectants will kill spores with exposures times that exceed 3-12 hours, which are classified as chemical sterilants. So why do higher alcohol solutions yield fewer results for bactericidal and antimicrobial outcomes?

Why Doesn’t Isopropyl Alcohol Kill Bacteria and Fungal Spores?

Some bacteria transform into spore cells when external conditions are unfavorable; the result is reduced metabolic activity, higher ‘cidal’ resistance, and immunity from alcohol-based disinfectants. Spores lie dormant, and once conditions become favorable again, the microbe converts back to a vegetative state and grows actively. When examining the effectiveness of IPA, accurately translating its benefits and shortcomings require distinctions of identity, purity, sterility, and intended use. Disinfection, unlike sterilization, does not provide sporicidal attributes.
Is Sterilization with Isopropanol (AKA Isopropyl Alcohol or IPA) Possible?
Proper Uses of Isopropyl Alcohol Require Distinction Between Sterilization and Disinfection
Terms like disinfection and sterilization are often misunderstood and used interchangeably. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) defines terminology clearly:

Unlike sterilization, disinfection is not sporicidal. A few disinfectants will kill spores with prolonged exposure times (3–12 hours); these are called chemical sterilants. At similar concentrations but with shorter exposure periods (e.g., 20 minutes for 2% glutaraldehyde), these same disinfectants will kill all microorganisms except large numbers of bacterial spores; they are called high-level disinfectants. Antiseptics are germicides applied to living tissue and skin; disinfectants are antimicrobials applied only to inanimate objects. In general, antiseptics are used only on the skin and not for surface disinfection, and disinfectants are not used for skin antisepsis because they can injure skin and other tissues. Virucide, fungicide, bactericide, sporicide, and tuberculocide can kill the type of microorganism identified by the prefix. For example, a bactericide is an agent that kills bacteria.

— CDC
Isopropyl alcohol is excluded from classification as a high-level disinfectant because of its inability to eradicate bacterial spores and hydrophilic viruses such as polio. Its low-level categorization outlines effectiveness for noncritical patient care devices such as blood pressure cuffs. IPA is also commonly applied during cleanroom wipedown for disinfecting tools and packaging that must pass into ultra-clean spaces.

[scotslad]

Microsoft launches an interactive map that tracks the global spread of the coronavirus pandemic in real-time to help fight the COVID-19 outbreak


Interactive map has been developed by search engine Bing which is powered and owned by Microsoft
Tool is free to use and features total cases, number of recovered people and fatalities
Data is pooled from government source and shows global tally as well as county-specific breakdown
Coronavirus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8116757/Microsoft-launches-interactive-map-tracks-coronavirus-pandemic-real-time.html

[Franny]

A couple of days ago I mentioned having sprouts on hand to help replace fresh vegetables and it was mentioned in the modchat this morning, which reminded me! :)

Pick up some sprout seeds like broccoli and alfalfa and a sprout jar.

Also if you have green onions, lettuce, celery, basil, cilantro and more, you can regrow them with very little trouble. Not magic but doable for many.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/arielknutson/vegetables-that-magically-regrow-themselves

https://www.homesciencetools.com/content/images/art/regrow_onions_4.jpg

Another thought would be extra herbs and spices or spice mixes to make rice and lentils, beans and garbanzos more appetizing after an extended period of time. Mexican, Italian, Indian, Middle East...

Bon appetit!

[Pam]

I would like to remind the folks selling us all kinds of hand sanitizers for high price, it’s non-essential item and nonsense to pack on those unless we are travelling.
Even then good soap wash is usually far more efficient than layers of hand sanitizer.

Alcohol itself is very good cleanser but not a disinfection.

Overuse of disinfection itself does not necessarily prevent cross contamination, vis hospital environments, surgery rooms etc.

Good results can be achieved with any one cleanser we are already packed in our household and hot water. Check everything for the right chemistry. Hot water in itself is also very efficient.


Much of the less developed parts of the world had poor sanitation because or while they miss access to clean drinking water then electricity so they had hot water later than everyone else.
In the meantime lots of chemical cleaners were invented to target the situation of people with no hot water !

Therefor; water is the best immediate aid, your friend at the times of disaster.



....


Some jokes of recent: Is this the coronavirus corner ?

In reality conversation:”Oh you look like you’ve just come from Wuhan 😀

“No sorry, we are pure Tibetans”😷

No hand shakes sir, no hand shakes.



🙏

I wonder if hand sanitizer is giving people a false sense of security. The very best bet is don't touch your face and wash frequently and well with soap. It's easier said than done. I have gotten pretty good about not touching my face if I'm out but at home not so much.

[Pam]

A couple of days ago I mentioned having sprouts on hand to help replace fresh vegetables and it was mentioned in the modchat this morning, which reminded me! :)

Pick up some sprout seeds like broccoli and alfalfa and a sprout jar.

Also if you have green onions, lettuce, celery, basil, cilantro and more, you can regrow them with very little trouble. Not magic but doable for many.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/arielknutson/vegetables-that-magically-regrow-themselves

https://www.homesciencetools.com/content/images/art/regrow_onions_4.jpg

Another thought would be extra herbs and spices or spice mixes to make rice and lentils, beans and garbanzos more appetizing after an extended period of time. Mexican, Italian, Indian, Middle East...

Bon appetit!

Franny, I'm glad you brought that up. It really is a great way to continually have fresh veggies no matter where you live. All you need is a mason jar and water. You can still order them on Amazon and I'm sure many other places. I feel great that no matter what I will have high nutrient, fresh live food.

[Clarity]

Sorry if this has already been posted but I'm too short on time to wade through 8 pages. :sun:

This is worth reading, linking a persons Selenium levels with their vulnerability to catch a virus.

The only people that can be infected by the 2019-n Coronavirus have less than 98.7 µg/L of Selenium in plasma or serum.
This is why only some people get the flu and why others get it infrequently or never at all.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/richard-sexton/lipinski-2015-ebola-and-selenium-how-not-to-catch-the-2019-novel-coronavirus-201/10156477705211673/

[Delight]

I just want to remind everyone:

Give yourself some space sometimes to walk away from the internet and TV. This will all still be here. (You too Bill) Go meditate. Do chi kung. Take a walk (yeah you can still do that). Watch something funny. Call a friend and talk about Other things.

Balance. Good word. Remember who we are. Good thought.

For some reason I am finding comfort in watching Horror movies....go figure. You are right, Caliban..we have got to keep a balance here. Exercise, fresh air and sunshine go a long way. I went out an did some physical work outside to burn off my angst and it helps.

I had been watching Amazon's sci fi series "Counterpart" until a character from the parallel earth revealed last night they plan to wipe us out

Girl Where were you?
What if you had been recognized?
Guy: I couldn't sleep.
I just wanted to see.
Girl: What did you think?
Guy: They are so dirty. They all deserve to die.

I had taken melatonin because I hear it helps with inflammazones. The dialogue seems to have embedded. Can't keep watching for now.

OMG I had the worst melatonin fueled dream (realization). The theme was basically that an old friend is NOT my friend now (mutual betrayals and back and forth spite). I was (EGO justifiably) outraged in the dream by how I was being treated. I took her out verbally and then lunged and physically attacked her and clawed her face. Next I knew we COULD NEVER resume connection. I had gone TOO FAR. The rest of the dream was me in a space that was literally fractured and mixed up and I couldn't reach out because I had terribly transgressed our "relationship". There was just nothing left. I had lost something so good and was now alone in essence.

Maybe she is Mother Earth (literally Mary in the dream)

I woke up so terribly devastated because "WHAT IF" all this that is happening that i perceive IS my waking dream? What if I have some how over stepped the bounds of relationship with "my reality" in earth life? What if TRUELY I have been so separated from the Divine Feminine that I have alienated everything that seems good in my reality?What IF this is all my fault?

I cried and I just felt like I am in the depths of hell. I asked to be led out by my higher self.

I feel like I am living a waking nightmare. Can I change this state??? Ever since waking I have been praying Hooponopono. Divine I love you. Please Forgive me. I am so grateful to the inkling of self responsibility for knowing how living so separately form the Divine alienates my relationship to "true" life. Thank you for helping me be led out into a new place of living.

I am committed to change. I will live up to love's rules... Don't be a revengeful person seeking to get even. There IS no even, only forgiving. I have to be willing to start a new ending.

Moving this to "how I am preparing..."

[Sadieblue]

"Delight, thank you....This was beautiful and touched my heart and soul.

"I feel like I am living a waking nightmare. Can I change this state??? Ever since waking I have been praying Hooponopono. Divine I love you. Please Forgive me. I am so grateful to the inkling of self responsibility for knowing how living so separately form the Divine alienates my relationship to "true" life. Thank you for helping me be led out into a new place of living.

I am committed to change. I will live up to love's rules... Don't be a revengeful person seeking to get even. There IS no even, only forgiving. I have to be willing to start a new ending."


I can relate to this so much, but in somewhat a different way....was feeling hurt and forsaken by a precious family member, so today instead of feeling hurt, I found a way today to return Love for
the hurt....and I feel so much better now.

[Delight]

I can relate to this so much, but in somewhat a different way....was feeling hurt and forsaken by a precious family member, so today instead of feeling hurt, I found a way today to return Love for
the hurt....and I feel so much better now.

Thanks for sharing. I really love that you felt "return Love for the hurt'.... and a new ending?

[Kryztian]

Here is the most sensible, easy and practical information I've heard about getting rid of the possibility of COVID-19 in one's body: the virus is found in the nasal passages and sinuses, because they are constantly cooled by air, unlike the rest of the body which is warmer. The solution is to introduce heat into this area which causes the virus to degrade.

The video illustrates a technique using a blow dryer. If one has access to a sauna, that would be an even easier method:

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[Pam]

I just want to remind everyone:

Give yourself some space sometimes to walk away from the internet and TV. This will all still be here. (You too Bill) Go meditate. Do chi kung. Take a walk (yeah you can still do that). Watch something funny. Call a friend and talk about Other things.

Balance. Good word. Remember who we are. Good thought.

For some reason I am finding comfort in watching Horror movies....go figure. You are right, Caliban..we have got to keep a balance here. Exercise, fresh air and sunshine go a long way. I went out an did some physical work outside to burn off my angst and it helps.

I had been watching Amazon's sci fi series "Counterpart" until a character from the parallel earth revealed last night they plan to wipe us out

Girl Where were you?
What if you had been recognized?
Guy: I couldn't sleep.
I just wanted to see.
Girl: What did you think?
Guy: They are so dirty. They all deserve to die.

I had taken melatonin because I hear it helps with inflammazones. The dialogue seems to have embedded. Can't keep watching for now.

OMG I had the worst melatonin fueled dream (realization). The theme was basically that an old friend is NOT my friend now (mutual betrayals and back and forth spite). I was (EGO justifiably) outraged in the dream by how I was being treated. I took her out verbally and then lunged and physically attacked her and clawed her face. Next I knew we COULD NEVER resume connection. I had gone TOO FAR. The rest of the dream was me in a space that was literally fractured and mixed up and I couldn't reach out because I had terribly transgressed our "relationship". There was just nothing left. I had lost something so good and was now alone in essence.

Maybe she is Mother Earth (literally Mary in the dream)

I woke up so terribly devastated because "WHAT IF" all this that is happening that i perceive IS my waking dream? What if I have some how over stepped the bounds of relationship with "my reality" in earth life? What if TRUELY I have been so separated from the Divine Feminine that I have alienated everything that seems good in my reality?What IF this is all my fault?

I cried and I just felt like I am in the depths of hell. I asked to be led out by my higher self.

I feel like I am living a waking nightmare. Can I change this state??? Ever since waking I have been praying Hooponopono. Divine I love you. Please Forgive me. I am so grateful to the inkling of self responsibility for knowing how living so separately form the Divine alienates my relationship to "true" life. Thank you for helping me be led out into a new place of living.

I am committed to change. I will live up to love's rules... Don't be a revengeful person seeking to get even. There IS no even, only forgiving. I have to be willing to start a new ending.

Moving this to "how I am preparing..."

Delight, I see the beauty of what you are. I strongly suspect that the almost intolerable energy you are feeling has not been generated by you in any way. I also suspect that you may be transmuting that energy. Doing that is very hard and very draining. I would like to suggest that this may be your purpose at this time. If what I say makes no sense, please disregard it as the gabbering of a mad woman.

[onevoice]

Our local chapter of a Buddhist group in Atlanta has suspended gathering during this Covid-19 crisis indefinitely. So instead of gathering at our usual location, we are now attending weekly meetings online led by the abbot at the national headquarter in New York. Characteristically the master only briefly mentioned Covid-19 only as an example of the various phenomena we experience in the world in our last meeting. During the meeting we were able to see the abbot and his accompanying PowerPoint slides and pose questions through chat box, or speak if we needed to.

So it was great to still participate in "group" activity while in the safety of one's home. I was able to totally focus on the master's lecture, without being concerned that I may get infected if we were to have gathered as a group in our normal meeting place.

[Ascension]

Sorry if this has already been posted but I'm too short on time to wade through 8 pages. :sun:

This is worth reading, linking a persons Selenium levels with their vulnerability to catch a virus.

The only people that can be infected by the 2019-n Coronavirus have less than 98.7 µg/L of Selenium in plasma or serum.
This is why only some people get the flu and why others get it infrequently or never at all.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/richard-sexton/lipinski-2015-ebola-and-selenium-how-not-to-catch-the-2019-novel-coronavirus-201/10156477705211673/

Probably should take note of the comment embedded in one of the links from the facebook page above, that using vitamin C may inactivate selenium.

https://allafrica.com/stories/201501291709.html

Does that mean taking them both in close proximity?

[Related side note: I was told to make sure I buy mineral blocks with selenium for my dairy goats. It is a critical mineral for them.]

[Antagenet]

Today was my last trip to the grocery store.
It feels good to have a lot of stored food.
I know it was my last trip (in the forseeable future)
because I have a huge sense of relief... that I have done the best I could.

[Tenzin]

Just did a liver flush during the new moon, released a bulk of liver stones; good reset. Next will be a series of long water fast I have been putting off. Perfect time to be staying in.

Think the only way out of this is to move onto a different time line, so meditation is a daily routine. Sleep early and less face time with a pulsing monitor.

It all seems like an elaborate hoax much better thought out than 9-11, even the lady who was in the vid on a ventilator claiming younger people can be badly affected by this man-made virus, is giving me all the vibes of a crisis actor (unless someone can ID her as legit)? Something may be out there, but just way hyped up by MSM.

[Caliban]

Spoonful of joy, a shot of laughter, and a 1000 Mg of que sera sera...

[Delight]

I love lsitening to Brian Scott read Neville Goddard's lectures and today this one has such a beautiful light that maybe some who are afraid to meet a "foe" may repent and feel joy.

Lately so many sources have begun to suss that in some amazing way this Maya IS a simulation. Others have been able to suss that "Consciousness" is implicit in this world before the manifestation of particulars. In the last 200 years, we have exaggerated the limits of a world and it has seemed to blowback a horrible drama. All this is such a mystery. This is an INCREDIBLE opportunity to redeem our own part of a play as written by the I AM in I AM's creativity of being man. I have been maintaining that all across the wide spectrum of a particular issue at hand in the collective, so MANY perceive it as a "foe" and when we repent of our view of the world, we take responsibility for facing that "foe" as ourself.

There IS a drama. But the Revelation is that the play is meant to end -ONE by ONE. I hope some willl sit with this lecture because IMO it is profoundly true.

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Taking my vitamin C (forget sometimes). I AM Feeling good all day and so grateful
1. to buy cabbage plants and a big bag of pea seeds
2.have a helper to mend the edge of the barn for the chickens (about to fall in after the tin roof started blowing of and the rains came),
3.talk to someone about bush hogging the garden spot.
4. have the internet
5. be able to share a DEEP sense that the Fat Lady has NOT sung but the end is comedy, not a tragedy.

In my scene of a vast UNKNOWN I am seeing Health, Wealth and Compassion alive and thriving.

[Rebecca]

I live in Washington state, and in the Seattle area at that. Fortunately I do not live in Seattle. However, a location just a few minutes from my home allegedly had a positive test result of this virus.

I DO hate the name they chose. "Corona-virus"...sounds like a monster. Yet supposedly it has to do with the virus being 'crown-shaped'.

Though there isn't a large outbreak in my city, some stores will have the clerk request that you use hand sanitizer at the register. Sanitizer and wipes at some stores has also been running low. I haven't been out all day yesterday but I will see how bad it is when I go out today as far as supplies go. Fortunately I was given a stash of sanitizing wipes and have a large supply.

I am relieved that so far it hasn't been affecting children. Yet a school in the county I live in has been closed anyway. My son hasn't been in school for about a month due to a recent move but I plan for him to start again next week. I hope the city I live in doesn't have a big outbreak that makes his new school shut down too.

To prepare I have been giving my son a Vitamin C supplement, a high quality one that has a fruit and vegetable extract. It includes immune boosting garlic and ginger. I also give him ginger tea, keep our diets low in refined sugars and other immune weakening additives (which I generally do anyway). Remember the phrase 'an apple a day keeps the doctor away?' Well, lately my son will eat 2-3 large organic apples a day. He will even go into the fridge and grab one himself without asking. This brings joy to my heart as the extra nutrients will help his immune system stay strong.

I love lemons and need to go out to get a stash. That is my preferred way of soaking my cells in Vitamin C. I'll make lemon water and then eat the inside of the lemon after much of the juice is squeezed out. I can eat several a day like this if I have a large supply.

Since I have a child I have more responsibility to prepare and protect his health. I've heard some say that this is a fake endemic. Fake or not, I have to be prepared regardless.
I hear you! I have six. I admit to getting a twinge of annoyance and maybe even a little envy when I hear people saying things like, "I did nothing!" Of course, that's just my ego response. I really love what I do and wouldn't trade it for anything! But being responsible for others is a big responsibility. And whether or not the virus is fake (I don't think so), the economic fallout is very real and just starting.


One of my biggest fears is that this will be a "Problem-Reaction-Solution" scenario in which the deaths and catastrophic outcomes will be used as an excuse to enforce more VACCINES. Bad enough Washington state recently took away the philosophical exemptions for schools so I had to get my son a religious exemption.

It's ridiculous because the same schools that mandate vaccines will give children GMOs, MSG, animal products from factory farms, REFINED SUGARS in excess quantities, all types of immune weakening substances. Recently my son went to a school at a community college and due to "life threatening allergies" I wasn't allowed to bring him any food at all, period. Not even fresh produce. Fortunately the school he is going to now won't do this and I can pack him food. But the school that didn't allow food from home? They would give the kids processed foods for snacks half of the time, which weakens the immune system. And even if they gave the kids something like apples for snacks, apples are on the 'dirty dozen' list and if they aren't organic contain large amounts of pesticides.

Anyway... my point is... what disappoints me the most is that our system puts so much emphasis on 'medical' and drug based solutions while still giving our children, the foundation of our future, immune weakening foods each day. Some schools are improving, I toured one that had things like 'avocado' on the menu and some organic foods... yet this is rare. What angers me is that the mainstream media puts too little focus on the natural ways we can protect ourselves during these outbreaks and the importance of a healthy lifestyle overall. I am not saying medical interventions are never necessary or that all pharmaceuticals are bad... But I do think nutrition and natural remedies need so much more attention and research.

Out of all of these coronovirus articles in the mainstream I've read so far, only one mentioned eating fresh fruits and vegetables. Out of all the Coronovirus fliers I've seen NONE mention nutrition as a preventative measure, they all focus on washing hands and sanitizer as well as wearing masks when you are sick. These fliers need to stress the importance of maintaining your immune system on a daily basis from the INSIDE out. Our world would be so much stronger against these illnesses if people took care of their inner worlds.

Probiotics don't get much mention either. While sanitizer is good for some situations, many brands kill off our 'good army of bacteria'. We need to replace that or use sanitizers that don't kill the good guys.
Preach it, sister! Pretty much the only suggestions for dealing with this virus are (1) clean your hands (2) hope there's a vaccine. And not only do they not get into other preventative measures, they actively denigrate anything that's not pharmaceutical!

Nutrition is poo-pooed (that's a scientific term, btw ;) ) And we know vitamin C is extremely important for this specific virus--they even have studies touting it! That's easy and safe and should be shouted from the rooftops.


Anyway... I just hope this doesn't become an excuse for vaccines to be forced upon us worse than they already are and that it ends before more public places shut down. I'm a single mother with bills to pay. While I am taking a course on how to earn money from home it may be months or years before I can actually survive doing that. For now I do need schools to stay open and to be able to work outside of the home.

I appreciate having a place to write this all out. Being in Washington it can be stressful to see the constant headlines and updates, to go out and feel the anxiety of other people rising...

I do hope you all get through this and thanks to everyone for sharing their input.
It does help to share your thoughts, doesn't it? I hope things work out for you. Don't forget to take care of yourself. It really is okay to let the screen babysit for you while you take care of yourself--whether that's a bit of extra sleep or meditation or whatever. Sorry if I sound preachy. That's my biggest peeve: the stunning lack of support for mothers, especially single mothers! And also families in general. And caregivers of all kinds! :rant: Okay, I won't go any further--this isn't the thread for that. But :hug:


The best outcome would be for advances in natural health to come to the surface... say... if a person tested positive heals them self with natural remedies and sparks some awareness in the media. I hope the opposite doesn't happen... Messages of 'eat all the processed foods you want, take a vaccine and you're good' need to drown out.

Best of luck, everyone.

TCM has shown to be helpful, but here in the west, it's been pretty much slammed. Anything that seems to 'catch on' is doomed in MSM. But I'm hoping this will change. As this virus progresses, more and more lies and manipulations are being revealed. The CDC has pretty much lost all credibility. People are looking elsewhere for advice and finding lots of information available on nutrition and simple natural support like vitamin C and ginger. Let's hope that's a trend that continues.

Hi rainsong.

Wow, six children! Do they all live with you?

Yes, because of my son I have to be careful. If I get sick it is unlikely someone can help care for him. He gets sick rather easily and would likely get it, too. Fortunately we have largely been staying in and eating well.

I don't know a whole lot about TCM aside from certain herbs being used. I do practice Qigong which has some connections.

Yes, I got my son his own tablet for when I need time for myself. It is very useful indeed for single parents though he does enjoy many other activities he can do on his own. If I leave out clay or his favorite toys he can use his imagination for awhile.

In regards to the Vitamin C... I have been so annoyed about the lack of awareness that I wrote "vitamin C" on a COVID-19 poster in my city. The fact that it isn't already on official fliers and posters amazes me...

Best to you and your family

[Delight]

The space between stimulus and response is the Wedge...

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[Mashika]

I was put on a forced quarantine for the next month or so :)

It's been almost 14 days since it started and i'm going crazy here, i don't see anyone, not my mom, sis or friends, i'm completely hidden away from the world and working from home, and i'm not even sick LOL

This is actually to prevent me from getting sick, i have arrhythmia and diabetes type 2, so i was put into a high risk group and my aunt did not take any chances and placed me on complete quarantine, just to be sure LMAO

So now i don't even open the door, if i have some food or something delivered someone else takes it for me and cleans it up and then it's placed on my door and i open when the guy is gone and take it inside. I feel completely in jail but more like one of those Black Mirror episodes and it's like causing some mental issues. I see my sister through video calls, and my mom and aunt as well, and have virtual meetings and mostly keep inside because it's hot and i can't open windows as the A/C is something i rely too much upon, so i only see the light of day when i wake up at 6 am and then i mostly spend the day inside with the shades closed until the heat hour goes away at mid afternoon. Then at night i go outside to the roof of my building and spend a couple hours there, but alone as well, i can't chance getting sick from the virus as it would most likely kill me, so they say :S

Last week the A/C broke and i felt i could not breath, i had to go to the roof while the repair guy came to fix it, then my aunt had the apartment cleaned and disinfected so i could come back inside, this is ridiculous!

I'm writing a lot LOL, i'm terrible bored, sorry :o

This is my current state of mind LOL

[spade]

Last week the A/C broke and i felt i could not breath, i had to go to the roof while the repair guy came to fix it, then my aunt had the apartment cleaned and disinfected so i could come back inside, this is ridiculous

Is the AC centralized? Those are the highest vectors of transmission if so

[Mashika]

Last week the A/C broke and i felt i could not breath, i had to go to the roof while the repair guy came to fix it, then my aunt had the apartment cleaned and disinfected so i could come back inside, this is ridiculous

Is the AC centralized? Those are the highest vectors of transmission if so

Oh, it is a small unit we setup for my apartment only, most people here don have A/C or care about it, they like the hot climate :)

Will have to ask my aunt about this, like if it has some kind of filters that could help or what's up with that. Im on the top floor and the A/C is on a window that points to the street, 4th floor so i dont know if it matters much

Thanks for bringing that up, never thought of it :S

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Glad to know you're quite safe then... Central AC on those cruise ships really messed things up. Hotels with central ACs as well. It's efficient, but there are better ways of mitigating room to room transfer of bugs. Chilled / Heated water pipes for example...

I'm still trying to grasp the difference between Italy and Germany death and infection rates, and such a stark difference. Could be cultural (Italians do the huggy kissy greets and Germans don't). Could be the highest population of China working in the sweatshops there which then all came back from their Chinese New Year holidays. Could be a China sabotage by sending contaminated test kits and faulty equipment.