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7th March 2020, 20:43
PSYCHOSOMA (psych-body)
related to the astral planes 4D

Psychosoma (Greek: psyckhé, soul; soma, body) is the vehicle of the consciousness that acts in the para-tropospheric extraphysical dimension or close to the terrestrial crust, as well as in the extraphysical dimension that is more distant from the planetary crust of this planet.

The majority of individuals have self-awareness with regard to the human body, but they do not have this same self-awareness with regard to the psychosoma. This is regrettable, because it is a condition that brings generalized negative consequences in human existence for all humanity.

Emotionality: In modern society, 4 common but extremely pathological occurrences can be evidenced:

1. Gambling. Unrestrained gambling.
2. Alcoholism. Alcoholic beverages ingested in excess (alcoholism).
3. Toxicomania. Drug abuse involving light, heavy, legal and illegal drugs.
4. Sensationalism. Journalistic sensationalism in general.

All 4 of these actions have the objective of reaching and, above all, actually do reach the psychosoma or emotional para-body of the human-animal. The following is merely one example: the sensationalism of the press (newspapers or news magazines), radio and television, in certain intraphysical societies, has as its news flashes the exploitation of crime, sex and violence, in a shocking exposition of facts, issues, events and ideas. These generate many illustrated follow-up stories in a concerted effort to awaken intense emotions, provoke strong sentiments, call attention with unusual appeals to the senses, or awaken uncommon or extreme beliefs.

Although all individuals have and use a psychosoma, few people have self-awareness regarding the existence of this vehicle because they are not able to control it correctly or operate it with full lucidity and agility when manifesting outside the human body.

PARA-ANATOMY OF THE PSYCHOSOMA

Among the characteristics of the para-anatomy of the psychosoma, at least the following 10 variables can be singled out:

01. Format.
02. Insertion of the silver cord (the first one, prior to reincarnation, or resoma).
03. Force centers.
04. Nature, composition, structure and luminosity.
05. Aura.
06. Coloration.
07. Average weight of 2.47 oz. (70 g) (a hypothesis).
08. Volume, mass and density.
09. The percentage of rarefied matter.
10. Differences between the psychosoma of the intraphysical consciousness and the extraphysical consciousness.

When the vehicles of the consciousness are in the coincident state, the seat of the psychosoma extends throughout the human body.

In certain circumstances, the psychosoma – a vehicle that is as objective to the intraphysical consciousness projected with lucidity as the human body in the intraphysical dimension – can present itself in two manners:

1. Simple or adequate.
2. Compound, in this case when combined with part of the energies of the holochakra (the whole chakras bio electrical magnetic field).

In evolved extraphysical dimensions, the psychosoma does not have a fixed form, nor is it rigid or condensed in any particular way.

The psychosoma is sometimes similar to gelatin that needs to be removed from a mold: the human body.

Morphologically speaking, the psychosoma of intraphysical consciousness, and even the psychosoma of the extraphysical consciousness, appears more substantial than transparent to the eyes of sensitive intraphysical observers, although simultaneously appearing diaphanous, as often happens with clouds. Such a comparison or analogy clearly illustrates the reality of the density of the psychosoma.

With regard to form, the psychosoma is ageless or, in other words: it does not age, strictly speaking. However, it transfigures itself.

It is presumed that at least 3 components which are somewhat familiar to humans may make up part of the composition of the semi-physical structure of the psychosoma:

1. Particles. Elementary particles.
2. Fields. Electromagnetic and gravitational fields.
3. Light. Photons (light).

Nevertheless, the psychosoma is essentially a thought-form or a morpho-thought-feeling in light of its property of transfiguration.

Over the course of the past 2 centuries, diverse researchers have singled out experimental signs in persistent attempts at evidencing the reality of the psychosoma, especially through the following 5 resources:

1. Doubles. Supposedly authentic photos of the supposedly materialized psychosoma of an intraphysical consciousness projected close to the human body (controversial photos of doubles).
2. Emanations. Photos of nebulous, dense and colored emanations on the deathbed (desoma-death-of-body).
3. Molds. Wax molds made of the feet and hands of personalities through ectoplasmic sensitives.
4. Marks. Impressions made from parts of the psychosoma on smoke-stained surfaces.
5. Effects. Physical effects directly provoked by the projected intraphysical consciousness.

However, this experimental evidence lacks universal acceptance, which means that the experiments should be repeated or insistently reexamined for a period of time.

PARA-PSYCHO-PHYSIOLOGY OF THE PSYCHOSOMA

Within the characteristics of the parapsychophysiology of the intraphysical consciousness psychosoma, at least the following 21 variables can be singled out:

01. Sensations. It makes human sensations possible.
02. Interface. It serves as a bridge or interface between the free mind and the dense human brain.
03. Action. It serves as a vehicle of awareness and action.
04. Uniform. It is the basic subtle uniform of the paratropospheric projector.
05. Self-transfigurations. It shows malleability or parapsychophysiological self-transfigurations, thereby allowing the attainment of morpho thought feelings or thought-forms and extraphysical clothing.
06. Light. It grows, is elastic and irradiates its own light.
07. Irradiation. It irradiates its own energy.
08. Foundation. It performs basic general operations (psychosomatic foundation).
09. Projection. It is active in lucid and nonlucid consciential projection.
10. Thought-Feelings. It is sensitive to thoughts or thought-feelings.
11. Tangibility. It allows tangibility in certain instances.
12. Apparition. It allows the apparition of the intraphysical projector to other intraphysical beings.
13. Parapsychism. It presents plasticity, which predisposes extraphysical parapsychism.
14. Predisposition. It predisposes the action of the silver cord.
15. Paragenetics. It is related to para-genetics, genetics and the growth of the human body.
16. Emotionality. It functions as the para-body of desires or the emotional parabody.
17. Holochakra. It is related to the holochakra (whole-chakras) through the silver cord and ballonnement.
18. Magnetism. It is an instrument that is sensitive to magnetic influences, including those of the human body.
19. Paramimicry. It allows the phenomenon of extraphysical mimicry or paramimicry.
20. Senses. It is the reason why the senses of smell and taste appear less in the perceptions of the intraphysical consciousness who is projected in the paratropospheric dimensions.
21. Sounds. It is related to intracranial sounds.

The psychosoma is influenced by material factors such as the earth’s gravitational pull, the density of matter and surface tension upon passing through thick material structures (extraphysical self-permeability) on certain occasions.

It also influences photographic plates (telekinesis) and sensitive physical instruments.

The psychosoma is the consciousness’ cosmic energy condenser, whether it is an intraphysical or extraphysical consciousness.

The silver cord regulates the density of the intraphysical consciousness’ psychosoma, which varies from one human lucid projection to another. If the silver cord regulates the density of the psychosoma, this same density, in turn, regulates the condensation, subtlety, fluidity or rarefaction of the psychosoma, establishes its vibratory orbit and permits the absorption of subtle matter from and in the extraphysical environment or district. All this is directly dependent upon the will of the projected intraphysical consciousness.

Thought, whether conscious or unconscious, has a powerful effect upon the density of the psychosoma of the intraphysical and extraphysical consciousness.

In the complex intermediation or the interface performed by the intraphysical consciousness’ psychosoma between the machine – in this case the human body – and the consciousness headquartered in the mentalsoma, its greater density allows the projected human to be seen by a greater number of extraphysical consciousnesses.

The energetic fields that compose the paratropospheric extraphysical districts, make a spontaneous and balanced selection of projected extraphysical and intraphysical consciousnesses through the vibratory density of the psychosoma of each one.

The following is a coherent formula in evolutiology: a permanent reduction in the semiphysical density of the psychosoma gradually occurs, in a continuous manner, in direct proportion to the increase in the general evolutionary level of the consciousness.

As a result of the principle of this formula, the psychosoma itself restricts the sphere of action of consciential free will.

The malleability of the psychosoma permits multiple successive translocations of the consciousness to extraphysical districts and environments of different densities.

In rarefaction of the intraphysical consciousness’ psychosoma, energies are returned to the human body with the objective of reducing ballast. This leaves the projected intraphysical consciousness with a minimum of the holochakra’s energies and makes it unnecessary to interiorize.

Rarefaction can occur in 2 ways:

1. With the Interiorization of the psychosoma in the human body.
2. Through the Silver Cord, whether the intraphysical consciousness is physically close to or distant from the physical base.

Condensation or rarefaction of the psychosoma can also occur through the silver cord either with or without interiorization of the projected intraphysical consciousness.

The psychosoma establishes the scale of extraphysical opacity, translucency, transparency and luminosity. These allow a distinction to be made between: intraphysical consciousnesses, extraphysical consciousnesses and projected intraphysical beings.

This temporary variation in the density of the psychosoma acts as an extraordinary resource of extraphysical consciential self-defense because the consciousness can switch from one extraphysical environment or district to another.

The psychosoma of the intraphysical consciousness maintains functional relationships with the human body, the holochakra, the silver cord and the mentalsoma.

Strictly speaking, real pain, lesions, wounds or accidents are not possible while in the psychosoma, as they occur with the human body.

When the simulacra of these events occur, it is due to the influence of the parapsychological conditioning of the inexperienced or ill intraphysical consciousness, whether or not he/she is projected. This can even occur to extraphysical consciousnesses.

The psychosoma is unique as a vehicle of manifestation of the intraphysical consciousness because it simultaneously has two intercorporal connections:

1. The Rudimentary connections of the silver cord.
2. The Evolved connections of the golden cord.

Only the psychosoma allows the intraphysical consciousness and the extraphysical consciousness to feel the effects of the action of energy currents and extraphysical hydromagnetic storms.

In certain cases, the magnetic field of the awakened consciousness’ psychosoma generates automatic repulsion on the part of ill, projected intraphysical consciousnesses, intrusive extraphysical consciousnesses, intruders in general and viscous energivorous parapsychopaths (extraphysical consciousnesses). Rare instances of this nature occur between intraphysical consciousnesses.

The psychosoma of the intraphysical consciousness is the intermediary parabody between the machine (the human body) and the same consciousness headquartered in the mentalsoma, a condition which is represented in the following two manners:

1. Intraphysical consciousness. The intraphysical being is the consciousness that still has an integral psychosoma.
2. Extraphysical consciousness. The extraphysical consciousness is the consciousness that has a free psychosoma, lacks the silver cord, part of the holochakra (or the entire holochakra) and the human body.

The psychosoma survives and continues to be entirely functional after the first and second desomas (death-of-bodies) or deactivation of the human body and holochakra.

The psychosoma only definitively disappears upon the third desoma (death) or in the definitive transformation of the Homo sapiens into the Free Consciousness.

In the same way that the mentalsoma is directly responsible for the consciousness’ flow of sentiments (high conscientiality), the psychosoma, as it is close to the holochakra and human body, is responsible for the consciousness’ emotional manifestations (animality or instinctive reactions).

Through the psychosoma, with the support of the holochakra, the intraphysical consciousness executes the cohesion of the myriad of cells that compose the animal or human body, maintaining the apparent stability of the living form. This occurs paradoxically through the constant, always renovated and renovating movement of the atoms.

This stability of the living human form receives two very common names:

1. Within the context of Time it is called Memory.
2. Within the context of Space it is called Substance.

Human proof or corpus delicti does not apply to the psychosoma, as seen by the following 5 facts, among others:

1. Impressions. The psychosoma does not leave impressions, signs, marks, vestiges or residues wherever it goes on the earth’s crust.
2. Shadow. Strictly speaking, the psychosoma does not cast a shadow when it is in sunlight.
3. Footprint. It leaves no footprints on the earth’s surface.
4. Fingerprint. It leaves no fingerprints on objects.
5. Odor. It does not emanate a distinctive odor in the human environment.

Nevertheless, many of these facts can occur due to the density of the psychosoma, according to acts of will and the creation of morphothosenes.

The psychosoma does not need to grow, whereas the human body obviously grows.

The psychosoma takes on the humanoid form of the adult, intraphysical being, transfiguring itself according to the will of the consciousness, while it exists. The psychosoma disappears or, in other words, is discarded, when the consciousness achieves the condition of free consciousness at the end of evolutionary reincarnation cycle.

It is worth repeating that the golden cord is the appendix that belongs to the psychosoma, in the same way that the silver cord is the appendix that belongs to the human body or soma.

The intraphysical consciousness has to learn to control the projected psychosoma just as a child learns to physically balance him/herself and take the first human steps in his/her new intraphysical existence.

The basic average weight of the projected intraphysical consciousness’ psychosoma seems to be 1 thousandth of the weight of the human body that houses it.

The density, the silver cord and the holochakra, as a whole, acting like equipment or a load, have a great influence upon the weight of the projected intraphysical consciousness’ psychosoma. This vehicle can therefore have different weights (variations) in a single lucid projective experience.

As the psychosoma is not a reality of fixed forms, its composition can vary from moment to moment. It is thus considered to be the para-body of desires, or the mutable or unstable emotional parabody.

It is still not known if the excessive accumulation of the waste material of the intestinal bolus – with the installation of intestinal constipation and consequent organic intoxication – has an influence upon the weight of the intraphysical consciousness’ projected psychosoma.

Repeated facts show that the intraphysical consciousness, when projected from the human body, has greater strength or can at least generate considerably more energy in the extraphysical dimension than when coincident or restricted inside the human body, in the ordinary, physical waking state.

Part of the psychosoma can leave and free itself from any part of the human body. However, the intraphysical consciousness only leaves in the psychosoma through the head, whether through the sinciput, forehead, nuchal region or the parietal and temporal sides of the cranium.

There are many consciential conditions or states in which the psychosoma leaves the condition of coincidence with the other vehicles of manifestation and remains bound only by the silver cord, as in the case of: sleep, hypnosis, anesthesia and lucid projection.

The facts lead us to the logical conclusion that the psychosoma of the intraphysical consciousness contains all the organogenic laws, according to which the human body is formed due to paragenetics and retrosomas which were deactivated in his/her multimillenary past.

However, the psychosoma is an aspermic body: it does not produce a “seed.”

The psychosoma sometimes acts as the Ballast of the mentalsoma, densifying and “materializing” the structure of this vehicle of manifestation when it projects while transporting the consciousness. It thereby forms the so-called “laden mentalsoma”.

The intraphysical consciousness projected in the psychosoma can unquestionably operate in this physical dimension, or in consensual reality, thereby generating the following phenomena, among others: physical bilocation, exteriorization of motricity, false arrival, projective parapyrogenesis, projective poltergeist, projective raps and projective telekinesis.

The existence of the psychosoma of intraphysical and extraphysical consciousnesses explains the most varied psi phenomena, which include: raps, poltergeist, intuitive writing, automatic drawing, radiesthesia (radionics), ideoplasty, apparitions, xenoglossy, clairvoyance, inner voices when non-pathological, telepathy and predictions.

The para-psycho-physiology of the psychosoma amplifies the manifestations with respect to the intraphysical consciousness, notably in the phenomena of lucid paraprojection, which is also para-psycho-physiological.

The fingers, hands, arms, feet, legs, senses and the human body as a whole are natural instruments of the intraphysical consciousness. On the other hand, the heart and liver, for example, are only instruments of the human organism.

Question. If the silver cord, holochakra, extraphysical perceptions and psychosoma as a whole are paranatural instruments of the consciousness, what are the instruments exclusively of the psychosoma?

Volitation. Since it does not have bones, joints and muscles, the projected intraphysical consciousness’ psychosoma does not need the basic physiological components of biomechanics (kinesiology), namely the analysis of the human body’s movements. This is a discipline which is of overall interest to orthopedics (traumatology), rehabilitation, physical education and athletic techniques. On the other hand, the psychosoma needs to be paraphysiologically addressed with regard to balance, due to planetary gravitation, extraphysical posture, walking, floating and volitation or, in other words, lucid, free and unimpeded flight outside the human body, which is at rest and with the brain emptied of the consciousness at that time.

Transfigurations. Among the characteristics and functions of the psychosoma, the following 6 should be singled out:

1. Extraphysical elasticity.
2. Extraphysical imponderability.
3. Extraphysical permeability.
4. Extraphysical translocation.
5. Luminosity.
6. Transfigurations that can be either conscious (self-transfigurations) or unconscious.

Reincarnation or Resomatics. The more prolonged transfigurations of the psychosoma occur during the period of consciential restriction, in the process of resoma (or reincarnation) of the extraphysical consciousness, in paragenetic / genetic blending with vivified matter, thereby composing the intraphysical vehicle, namely: the soma. (the body)

Visual. The parapsychological (extraphysical psychology) reflexes stemming from the human body of physical life, still conserve the most frequent or typical appearance of the consciousness during the subsequent intermissive period.

Marks. Cases of birthmarks or blemishes suggestive of existential seriation and studied by researchers are clear evidence of the parapsychopathological disturbances of the psychosoma, which are responsible for the transference of physical impressions of the human body of the previous intraphysical life to the human body of the current intraphysical life.

Confusion. The properties of the psychosoma are so transcendent in relation to the soma that they confuse the projected intraphysical consciousness with regard to the interpretation of its extraphysical experiences. This is worsened due to the fantasies of the oneiric and semilucid states that interfere in subsequent analysis of the projective experiences.

Withdrawal. Another subtle property of the psychosoma is the inversion of the relative positions of the volitator and the scenery during volitation: in this case the consciousness allows the scenery to pass before it while apparently remaining at a standstill or intraconscientially withdrawn (para-introspection).

Dehydration. The prolonged projection in which the psychosoma is laden with ectoplasm extracted from the cells of the soma provokes dehydration of the joints of the soma, which is at rest in the physical base. This generally occurs after a half-hour long projection. The absorption of extraphysical energies through the laden psychosoma by the projected intraphysical consciousness allows the subsequent recuperation or compensation of the joints with the replacement of the soma’s liquids and cells.

PARA-PSYCHO-PATHOLOGY OF THE PSYCHOSOMA

Disturbances. The occurrences of parapathology of the psychosoma can be classified into 2 types:

1. Minidisturbances.
2. Maxidisturbances.

Among the minidisturbances of the parapsychopathology of the intraphysical consciousness’ psychosoma, the following 4 types of occurrence can be singled out:

1. Extraphysical consequences of the amputated member.
2. Blindness, advanced myopia and daltonism.
3. Buzzing (certain manifestations).
4. Extraphysical attacks (psychosoma of extraphysical consciousnesses).

Discoincidence. Still within the minidisturbances of the parapsychopathology of the psychosoma, partial discoincidences of the psychosoma occur due to spontaneous physical causes. The following 8 serve as examples:

1. Contusion. Cranial contusion.
2. Stars. The physical effect of “seeing stars.”
3. Stomach. The sensation of having one’s “heart in one’s mouth” when a potent and fast elevator is ascending or descending (roller coaster).
4. Step. The sensation of stepping into thin air upon stepping onto the wrong step or when climbing down a ladder.
5. Brake. The sensation due to the abrupt braking of a vehicle.
6. Discoincidence. The provocation of discoincidence, with a primitive parapsychic objective in the gyrations of Umbanda.
7. Shock. Discoincidence due to a major shock.
8. Sneeze. Discoincidence due to a strong sneeze in predisposing circumstances.

Among the maxidisturbances of the parapsychopathology of the psychosoma, the following 12, among others, can be singled out:

01. Extraphysical sexual mania (para-sexaholic).
02. Pathological discoincidence.
03. Self-intrusion or extraphysical obsession.
04. Oneirophobia.
05. Certain cases of epileptic petit mal (pathological absence).
06. Extraphysical oligophrenia or deficiency in the development of the intraphysical consciousness’ consciential attributes.
07. Extraphysical coma or para-coma of intraphysical consciousnesses who have locked intraphysical existences.
08. Consequences of air dislocation due to the explosion of a nearby bomb, with the effect of a wave of shock and vibrations, violently expelling the psychosoma from the human body.
09. Pathological transfigurations.
10. The state of the psychosoma as though it were atrophied, withered or cracked, looking like the bark of a tree.
11. Extraphysical lycanthropy (zoanthropy).
12. Retroparapsychic scars of the psychosoma.

Realities. Fortunately, the undeniable personal evidence of lucid projection leads the intraphysical consciousness to a supreme level of veracity regarding psychophysical realities that allows him/her to distinguish between, locate and identify the two basic spheres of consciential life.

Extremes. This fact occurs ranging all the way from the apex of sublimity, with the most ennobling aspects of the human personality, to the inferior extreme of the shadowy meanderings of the most abject multiexistential, paragenetic and holobiographical deficiencies and psychoses in the world of psychopathology and conventional human criminology.

Experiences. Thus, with the accumulation of experiences outside the human body, the individual no longer has any doubt regarding the possibilities of positive or healthy and negative or ill realizations of the intraphysical consciousness who temporarily liberates him/herself from the dense vehicle.

Consequences. The individual’s personal condition engenders the consequences of the sublime modeling of fraternal social assistance to ill individuals, invalids or the disenfranchised, as well as the identification of robbery, pillaging, sexual assault and even the perpetration of large-scale homicides, massacres and genocides full of tragedy.

Rehearsals. Frequently, when a criminal affirms, “I was out of my mind” at the moment of a criminal act, his/her intraphysical consciousness – often before the act – was actually outside him/ herself. In other words, he/she was outside the human body, whether aware or unaware of this fact, whereupon he/she deliberately perpetrated the criminal act. This now confirms his/her prior morbid propositions and endorses the extraphysical rehearsals which have already been performed.

Conclusion: the extraphysical dimension, mainly the paratroposphere, has continued to serve, throughout the millennia of human history, as a permanent consciential laboratory, as much for the healthy and liberating creations of good or cosmoethical geniuses, as for the sick and evolutionarily stagnating creations of evil or anticosmoethical geniuses.

Thought. For the will – the generator of force – thought acts as an agent of manifestation in the modeling of creative as well as destructive acts, creating everything from abnegated social assistants to the intraphysical intruder, the incubus and succubus which know no morals, boundaries, scruples or social education (sociopaths, sociopathies).

Company. Acting upon all of this is the balanced or demented company that the intraphysical consciousness chooses while in the ordinary, physical waking state or while outside the body. This is because likes attract, interact and often end up in a type of symbiotic and energetic interdependence between the dimensions of consciential life, creating diverse obscure syndromes.

Genetics. It is important to note that many cases of morphological disturbance of the soma that manifest along genetic lines during the phases of human gestation and ostensively appear upon rebirth can, in certain cases, be directly attributed, either in part or in whole, to parapsychopathologies of the psychosoma.

The following are 6 types of basic morphological variations in the human body – sometimes considered teratological – that are always of enormous clinical relevance:

1. General: variations in constitution; nanism; gigantism; asymmetries of development; and dystrophic syndromes.
2. Trunk: variations in the vertebral column and variations in the thorax.
3. Head: variations in the cranium; facial types; ocular variations; variations in the ears; facial fissures; and buccal variations.
4. Hands and Feet: hyperdactylia or polydactylia; hypodactylia or ectodactyly; mega, brachy, macro and microdactilia; hyper and hypophalangism; clinodactyly; and syndactyly.
5. Genitals: hermaphroditism; ectopias; duplications; penile fissures; polymastia; amastia; and gynecomastia.
6. Integument: dyschromias; dystrichoses; and variations of phanerosis.

Within the scope of human emotional manifestations (psychology) restricted to the psychosoma, all excess generally jeopardizes and causes problems due to the action of consciential immaturity or the absence of reflection, pondering and discernment.

Case study. With regard to this aspect, 5 occurrences can be seen:

1. Superprojection. The negative effects of a mother’s or father’s overprotection of a son or daughter where, for example, “The mother smothers the child with affection?”
2. Compassion. Blind and disturbing compassion that facilitates interconsciential or intrusive influences.
3. Intention. Isolated good intention lacking discernment.
4. Will. Good will alone, also without discernment, which is why it is affirmed and lucid consciential projectors confirm: the paratropospheric extraphysical dimension is overcrowded with parapsychotic post-desomatic extraphysical consciousnesses.
5. Hospitals. Psychiatric hospitals filled with unhappy mental patients.

So-called psychosomatic medicine – simultaneously addressing the human body and the consciousness, which are interrelated and considered together, treating disturbances or organic lesions produced by psychic influences (emotions, desires, fear and fixed ideas), combating certain types of gastrointestinal ulcers, functional colopathy, anphotonias and other disturbances – is actually beginning to enter, albeit superficially, the still obscure realm of the parapsychopathology of the psychosoma or the “body ofhuman consciousness,” which is above all directed by the intraphysical consciousness which is always headquartered in the mentalsoma.

First Death. When the intraphysical consciousness discards the human body through the first death, most illnesses known to classic (physicalist) medicine or, in other words, all organic or cellular illnesses (organic nosology or nosography), lose their raison d’être. This is because the alleged cause or singular motive for these pathologies – the soma – ceases to exist.

Second Death. When this same consciousness, having recently become an extraphysical consciousness, discards the remnants of the connections of the holochakra in the psychosoma through second death, all the illnesses restricted to imbalances in consciential energy, as in disturbances treated by acupuncture and do-in, or the so-called pathological awakening of the kundalini or, in short, all disturbances which have arisen as a direct result of primary consciential energies, lose their raison d’être. This is because the supposed cause or singular motive of these disturbances – the holochakra or its remnants – ceases to exist.

However, neither all organic illnesses nor the energetic disturbances of the consciousness cease to exist, as would be expected, after the first and second deaths.

Para-genetics. This does not occur due to the properties of the psychosoma (the emotional parabody), which is capable of forming and maintaining these illnesses and disturbances – or their characteristic effects and symptoms – stemming from its structure, through the powerful action (psychological paraconditioning that forms the individual paragenetics) of the will through the mentalsoma and the self-transfigurations of the psychosoma.

Holo-karma. This gives rise to holokarmic illnesses (whole-karma debts), or chronic disturbances established over centuries that continue from one human life to the next (multi-existentiality, personal holobiography), from one soma (retrosoma) to the next, or from one holochakra (retro-holochakra) to the next, restricted
to the para-psycho-pathology of the psycho-soma and the mentalsoma.

Medicine. The interested reader will note the logic of the explanations presented above and the regrettable condition of classic, conventional or physicalist medicine, which still only concerns itself with 1 vehicle of consciential manifestation, the human body. It still needs to discover, understand and address 3 more vehicles of consciential manifestation in conjunction.

In this tragic Game through the maintenance of the health of the consciousness, conventional medicine, which is currently excessively commercial, has thus far, over the centuries, continued to lose 3 to 1.

COMPARISONS BETWEEN THE SOMA AND THE PSYCHOSOMA

The psychosoma is the Modeling Agent of the soma, or the human body. It acts subordinated to genetic laws and respects the biogravitational field in which it breathes and develops.

This is why one vehicle is a Replica of the other.

The opaque human body Expresses the psychosoma in the dense intraphysical dimension. The luminous psychosoma expresses the human body in the rarefied extraphysical dimension.

The human body is a terrestrial Object that walks in the intraphysical dimension. The psychosoma, however, is an aerial object that volitates.

The holochakra, including the silver cord, is the intermediary Energizing agent of the interrelationship between the psychosoma and the soma. It permits both to operate together in perfect union, while in the state of coincidence and discoincidence. It always endeavors to maintain and prolong the vitality of the existing structures or physical and extraphysical, mental (psychological, biomemory) and consciential health – holosomatic homeostasis – from the organism’s conception to its deactivation through the biological first death.

Physical Hygiene is the maintenance of the human machine. Mental (or consciential) Hygiene is the maintenance of the extraphysical paramachine (psychosoma or mentalsoma).

The psychosoma as the duplicate of the soma, or vice versa, has inspired curious customs and Creations over time, including the following 3:

1. Greeks. The ancient Greeks avoided looking at their own image reflected on the surface of water as the shadow of the human body appeared to them to be the dark side of their own self.
2. Stevenson. Robert Lewis Balfour Stevenson (1850-1894) wrote the celebrated Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
3. Wilde. Oscar Fingall Wills Wilde (1854-1900) wrote the novel The Picture of Dorian Gray in 1891.

Inhibition. Over the many thousands of winters and summers of human history on earth, successive generations of intraphysical beings have kept the psychosoma operating only as an inhibited (or constrained) vehicle of manifestation between the impulses of the consciousness and the impressions received through the human body, in the intraphysical dimension, and in the state of coincidence of the bodies (vehicles) of consciential manifestation.

Ignorance. Intraphysical consciousnesses, even the generations alive today, are generally unaware that the psychosoma can act in its own extraphysical dimension, using its own resources which are far more evolved than those of the physical body, and that the consciousness (the will) can act directly upon it. This includes the will of the intraphysical consciousness.

The abovementioned conjuncture results in two extremely serious consequences:

The First Consequence is that no fewer than 4 billion beings of flesh and blood – the majority of the current members of humanity – upon sleeping every night, leave the physical body or at least remain discoincident in their vehicles of manifestation, experiencing actual ephemeral minideaths, retaining the consciousness inside the psychosoma, whether 1½” (4 cm) or 13’ (4 m) away from their own physical body. It remains there futilely waiting for the physical impulses of this same inactive body or, more precisely, the impulses of the brain, which is filled with neurons, interactions, synapses, glias and other elements, but is empty for a certain period because the consciousness is temporarily removed from it.

Hibernation. Naturally projected intraphysical consciousnesses, under the influence of the paraphysiology of their own psychosoma, maintain themselves in this condition of unnecessary deep Hibernation which is characteristic of extraphysical infancy. They thereby sadly waste evolutionary opportunities of inestimable value, submerged in a deplorable inertia, the extension of which often amounts to 1/3 of the period of terrestrial life (8 hours in a daily 24-hour period).

Short nonlucid consciential projections or Miniprojections are only of value because they are a natural process of absorbing immanent energy in the extraphysical dimension, an aspect which is important for human life.

From an extraphysical evolutionary perspective, the earth can be considered to be an immense day care center (mega-nursery), or Dormitory-Planet.

Terrestrial humanity still sleeps the pathetic sleep of deep Unconsciousness.

The billions of unconscious, intraphysical consciousnesses who leave the physical body night after night, year after year, and are temporarily freed in the extraphysical body (psychosoma), do not awaken to the other greater reality. This is because they ruminate on their own blocked and paralyzing thoughts, in a closed circuit.

Somnambulists. These extraphysical somnambulists enter the extraphysical dimension without perceiving it and see nothing. This is because, in this case, the ego paraphysiologically leaves the physical body but, despite this, is unable to get out of itself, remaining mired in its own egotistical morphothosenes, gravitating around itself (mega-ego), in neutral.

The saddest part of all is that among these somnambulants are persons of all existential and cultural levels and conditions, from all countries, spread throughout all continents. They are indifferent to this waste and the majority do not even reflect on the issue.

The Second Consequence refers to those intraphysical consciousnesses who became extraphysical consciousnesses again and remain unconscious, somnambulant or semiconscious, sometimes for long periods, in the paratropospheric extraphysical dimension, because they keep waiting to feel the physical vibrations of the deactivated body of dense matter that they lost definitively in the first desoma, but with which they remain deeply conditioned. They thus do not enter into any extraphysical activity in their new interexistential interval or intermissive period in the new environment or district.

The obvious conclusion of this lamentable situation is that terrestrial humanity is sleeping too much during human existence (lifetime) and even after desoma (intermissive period).

The solution to the problem is to put an end to the idleness of the psychosoma, when in the condition of an intraphysical consciousness, as well as during the post-desomatic phase. There is no other immediate solution. Does the reader have any other solution to offer? What is your opinion?

Awakening. It is essential that there be an awakening to the extraordinary resources that the psychosoma can offer. This will allow it to act freely so that consciousnesses can then also act directly in the mentalsoma in an unimpeded manner, thereby dispensing with the intermediary vehicles of manifestation.

There is only one efficient Resource for the initial extraphysical awakening of humanity: lucid projection in the psychosoma.

The schools of transcendent theoretical studies, the more advanced parapsychic practices and all attempts at self-knowledge of the intraphysical consciousness help greatly, although none of them has resolved this Long-Standing Problem as yet.

Development. The era of unfounded fear, superstitions, beliefs, abstruse rituals and cheap mysticism has passed.

Awareness. Every intraphysical consciousnesses who wishes to can now know with certainty that they have their own light, their human aura and inner potential to be developed using their own will, through their own efforts and consciential energies.

Those who wish to develop their latent parapsychic powers in this era of extraphysical emancipation have no time to lose.

Power. Through lucid projection, which offers dozens of uses and can be produced by anyone, the only requirement is mental discipline or self-organization, the third consciential power after will and intentionality (quality), in order to achieve unlimited positive applications in daily life. This is not asking too much.

It is evident that without discipline no one achieves improved personal performance of any type, anywhere, under any conditions.

Finally, it is always good to remind everyone of a Warning that is one of the basic laws of projections: never try to project the consciousness with a negative or anticosmoethical intention. The unhealthy results of this will, first of all, affect the ill-willed projector.

Cosmo-Ethics. Elevated Ethical Principles (cosmoethics) are indispensable in order to have superior, healthy, extraphysical consciential experiences.

THEORY OF IRRUPTION OF THE PSYCHOSOMA

The theory of irruption of the psychosoma in the intraphysical dimension takes as a postulate – a fact or effect recognized without previous demonstration – that the emotional parabody, through the evolution of the intraphysical consciousnesses of a planet, insinuates itself, shows itself or arises forcefully in diverse circumstances in human life.

According to extraphysical studies, there are extraphysical events which suggest that one dimension, through the evolution of the average consciousnesses that inhabit it (whole-thought-feeling-energy), tends to progress toward the next more evolved consecutive or contiguous dimension beyond it.

Thus, there may be more evolved planets with a more rarefied or subtle physicality than that of the earth and which can be reached and inhabited with semidematerialized terrestrial somas, thereby facilitating more intensive, instantaneous and advanced multidimensional projections.

We can use the Analogy here of the deciduous tooth, or the child’s milk tooth (odontology), which is replaced by the natural, adult or permanent tooth that irrupts (irruption) when the appropriate period of biological maturity of the intraphysical consciousness’ soma arrives.

Para-Biology. The same occurs with the soma that is gradually replaced by the psychosoma when the natural time of the soma’s parabiological evolution (somatics and psychosomatics) arrives.

Thus we can conclude that the soma is, to a certain degree, Deciduous or susceptible to being eliminated, either in whole or in part, in a transitory or more permanent manner, by the psychosoma (first death) and even manifestation in the intraphysical dimension without the soma (the phenomenon of the ungenerated or agénères).

The broad Scope of the explanation of the theory of irruption of the psychosoma in the human dimension comes in contact with multiple areas of intraphysical life and consciential studies. The following are 5 examples:

1. Research performed on bioluminescence, cellular regeneration, general bioethics and genetic engineering will eventually enable the tangibility or intraphysical manifestation of the psychosoma’s properties in this intraphysical dimension through the soma in a direct fashion.
2. Bioluminescence applied to the human body will approximate the luminosity of the psychosoma.
3. Cellular Regeneration of the Body (soma) will permit this vehicle to approximate the property of transfiguration of the psychosoma.
4. If these events occur they will explain a series of theories on controversial UFOlogical phenomena and will have great influence on interplanetary travel and the terrestrial life of intraphysical consciousnesses on other planets in the inevitable and future colonization of celestial bodies close to earth.
5. The theory of the abundance of Consciential Energies of current terrestrial reality already paves the way for the establishment of the foundations for the more ample irruption of the psychosoma in intraphysical life. This is currently occurring due to demographic explosion, an increase in the number of mini-connections of energetic flow or holo-chakral links in somas, establishing the connection of the psychosoma, which allows the extraphysical consciousness to temporarily anchor itself in dense matter and live as an intraphysical consciousness in this human dimension.

The histological factor or cellular alterations – matter vivified by consciential energies – represent the most relevant variables in these occurrences.

Explanations. This advanced theory of irruption of the psychosoma – " presented here in order to be debated, invalidated and refuted " – rationally explains countless aspects of consciential phenomena within para-phenomenology (or conscientiology) that are still obscure. The following 27, selected from many others, are examples:

01. Auric coupling between intraphysical consciousnesses (holo-chakra study).
02. Exteriorization of motricity.
03. Extraphysical elongation of the soma (holo-body-somatics).
04. False arrival (intraphysical study).
05. Human parateleportation.
06. Interconsciential possession (conscientiotherapy).
07. Internal and external autoscopy (paraphysiology).
08. Intraconsciential (animic) and parapsychic (per se) energetic signage.
09. Isolated cases of disappearance of persons or somas (desomatics or desincarnation, self-desoma or self-death).
10. Macrosoma (macro-body).
11. Materialization or projective ectoplasmy (macro-PK).
12. Para-anesthesia.
13. Para-asepsis.
14. Para-cicatrization.
15. Para-hemostasis.
16. Para-psychic diagnostics (conscientiotherapy).
17. Para-regeneration.
18. Para-surgery.
19. Physical bilocation of the intraphysical consciousness (projectiology).
20. Physical dematerialization (para-phenomenology).
21. Projective heteroscopy.
22. Semi-materialization.
23. Sympathetic assimilation of consciential energies (holo-chakra study).
24. The anonymity of the Homo sapiens evolutionary beings.
25. The apparition of the projected intraphysical consciousness to other intraphysical consciousnesses (para-phenomenology).
26. Traveling clairvoyance (projections).
27. Waking discoincidence (holo-chakra study).

A physical Accident (pathology) that involves the brain (cranial fracture) can trigger the appearance (para-physiology) of energetic and parapsychic signage, based on the auditory mechanisms, for example.

Break. In this case, it is as though the fracture had broken the rigidity and integrity of the structure of the holo-somatic connection between the vehicles of manifestation.

Energetic signage serves as an artificial crack or wedge that remains open between the existential dimensions of the intraphysical consciousness.

Such an accident paradoxically anticipates the evolved condition of irruption of the psychosoma through the soma.

In science fiction movies, the moment when the extraterrestrial personality erupts from the throat of the terrestrial personality is a crude analogy to the irruption of the psychosoma through the soma.

Intraphysical consciousnesses who have a macrosoma (Macro-Body) would be the most predisposed to irruption of the psychosoma.

CHAKRAS

Definition. nuclei or limiting fields of energy that basically constitute the holo-chakra – the vehicle of energy inside the human body – which connects this body with the psychosoma, serving as connection points through which force flows from one vehicle of the consciousness to the other.

(This part I think one can research ownself. It complements learning about psychosoma)

credits to Waldo Vieira (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldo_Vieira)

wttah
8th March 2020, 04:20
A lot to digest there RogeRio, and a lot is over my head.

The pathologies I encounter often in the deceased, and fixing those problems is an interest of mine. A few examples:

Someone who has drowned at sea. They are stuck there in the water. It seems they do not know the directions. If one catches their eye and they see you, then the solution is to point towards the surface. As soon as they catch a glimpse of the surface and the familiar distortion of sunlight upon water, they shoot off and are gone.

If that person was on a ship and thrown overboard alive due to plague, they will no longer be stuck. But they still have the plague one might say. If you look up the modern cure for plague it is certain antibiotics. So if you place a little of the appropriate antibiotic in a teaspoon of honey and tell them they must have the complete course, they come back every day until cured and then disappear.

But it is severe psychological trauma that I find difficult to deal with, particularly with young women who have been raped and murdered brutally. One can fix the "physical" damage, but the psychological remains as a deep scar. They relive the memory over and over. It is very difficult to re-establish a normalicy for them. Especially when they endured to the very last moment the desire to live.

In some schools of thought I have encountered there are those who opine that the deceased person is "earthbound" and the person should "die again". However that amounts to killing them for a second time.

Any ideas on fixing the trauma?

EFO
8th March 2020, 07:48
Interesting thread RogeRio.

I know that will be quite a work to do,but you should described as much as you can all those characteristics,adding more of them and even describe the relation/s between them for those how are not familiar with them or for those who want to know more and they are at their beginning of their "journey".You will help them a lot.

Your choice. :)

RogeRio
8th March 2020, 07:51
A lot to digest there RogeRio, and a lot is over my head.


the content looks like a math class, but it is useful for exercising the brain in a comprehensive and coherent way about the subject.

Thanks for reply and sensitive examples of circumstances. Process related to first death is the most traumatic, and a ordinary (human) soul-consciousness have no idea what's going on.



Naturally projected intraphysical consciousnesses, under the influence of the paraphysiology of their own psychosoma, maintain themselves in this condition of unnecessary deep Hibernation which is characteristic of extraphysical infancy.if one think the circumstance of baby care who sleeps many hours during the day, the types of difficulties to understand what a baby needs are analogous to the difficulties of a baby-soul (psychosoma).

going beyond, 1st death process for psychosoma it's analog a physical birth, because leaving the physical body is similar to leaving a womb. The effort involved is essentially analogous, and although the baby reacts instinctively, some births are quite difficult and risky.

this analogy is often very useful for understanding sensitive circumstances



They relive the memory over and over.There's something wrong with this "memories". From guilty conscience to desire for justice, something needs to be release from sub-conscious mind.



the deceased person is "earthbound" and the person should "die again". However that amounts to killing them for a second time. it's some funny because death it's irreversible, but certains circumstances like cardiac arrest it's possible resuscitate (by analogy).

well, one buried have no space (favorable density) to pull out of body, especially if the individual has no idea of the circumstances.

the ideal in these more sensitive assistance tasks, is to work in a group, as a person alone cannot perform all the necessary tasks.

wttah
8th March 2020, 09:09
A lot to digest there RogeRio, and a lot is over my head.


the content looks like a math class, but it is useful for exercising the brain in a comprehensive and coherent way about the subject.

Thanks for reply and sensitive examples of circumstances. Process related to first death is the most traumatic, and a ordinary (human) soul-consciousness have no idea what's going on.



Naturally projected intraphysical consciousnesses, under the influence of the paraphysiology of their own psychosoma, maintain themselves in this condition of unnecessary deep Hibernation which is characteristic of extraphysical infancy.if one think the circumstance of baby care who sleeps many hours during the day, the types of difficulties to understand what a baby needs are analogous to the difficulties of a baby-soul (psychosoma).

going beyond, 1st death process for psychosoma it's analog a physical birth, because leaving the physical body is similar to leaving a womb. The effort involved is essentially analogous, and although the baby reacts instinctively, some births are quite difficult and risky.

this analogy is often very useful for understanding sensitive circumstances



They relive the memory over and over.There's something wrong with this "memories". From guilty conscience to desire for justice, something needs to be release from sub-conscious mind.



the deceased person is "earthbound" and the person should "die again". However that amounts to killing them for a second time. it's some funny because death it's irreversible, but certains circumstances like cardiac arrest it's possible resuscitate (by analogy).

well, one buried have no space (favorable density) to pull out of body, especially if the individual has no idea of the circumstances.

the ideal in these more sensitive assistance tasks, is to work in a group, as a person alone cannot perform all the necessary tasks.

Thanks RogeRio.

The first two examples of drowning and plague are, to my thinking, removing a roadblock in a way they understand.

With the third example of trauma, the young lady developed something I would call a "pearl" as in how an oyster creates a pearl when a grain of sand irritates the oyster.

This pearl is located within what I understand are the layers of the "bio-electric" body. Ordinarily minor traumas are shed by the layers like old skin and the scars fade.

I'll look at her memories too, thanks for that RogeRio. The young lady's attacker(s) instilled their intentions (or perhaps something else) so perhaps a foreign memory is present. That would need to be removed methinks. A contagion?

A group would be advantageous, except she is frightened of people on the inner.

There is a lot of trauma cases in both the living and the deceased, working out a method of how to resolve trauma in people has been something I have been looking for for a long time.

I'll look for a "contagion" within the "pearl" and let you know how it goes.

TomKat
8th March 2020, 12:08
Any ideas on fixing the trauma?

For earthbound spirits/"hungry ghosts" I always send them to the light (astral plane). It's in Edith Fiore's book Unquiet Dead, but I originally learned it in Michael Harner's shaman class.

TomKat
8th March 2020, 12:34
PSYCHOSOMA (psych-body)
related to the astral planes 4D
Psychosoma (Greek: psyckhé, soul; soma, body) is the vehicle of the consciousness that acts in the para-tropospheric extraphysical dimension or close to the terrestrial crust, as well as in the extraphysical dimension that is more distant from the planetary crust of this planet.

Theosophists call it the etheric body. Eckhart Tolle calls it the pain body. Musicians call it the soul. It doesn't really relate to the astral plane. That's why it interests me more than the astral body which seems more a temporary mock-up. I like what he says about it being an inch or two away from the physical body when asleep. That's the dream state. Moving it a further inch or so feels like flying at high speed for a vast distance, but it's only another inch or so.

wttah
8th March 2020, 13:14
Any ideas on fixing the trauma?

For earthbound spirits/"hungry ghosts" I always send them to the light (astral plane). It's in Edith Fiore's book Unquiet Dead, but I originally learned it in Michael Harner's shaman class.

I'm not sure how "sending" helps with trauma(?)

RogeRio
8th March 2020, 14:58
I know that will be quite a work to do,but you should described as much as you can all those characteristics,adding more of them and even describe the relation/s between them for those how are not familiar with them or for those who want to know more and they are at their beginning of their "journey".You will help them a lot.


Thanks for such positive feedback. Be familiar and develop comprehensive & inteligible approach is like a know numbers and math operations to understand Physics and Chemistry, where it is invariably necessary to assign names, numbers and rules that must be observed with clearly objective criteria.

Our cultural history (cultural heritage) omitted the public knowledge of the psychosoma, so that politics and religion would obtain hidden advantages, such as, for example, a flooding of a city due to lack of urbanization (public investment), with the fault being of God or of Nature, the naive people still seek help and comfort from the authorities responsible for the tragedy, as if they were saviors. It is a very elaborate distortion that only works because of the ignorance of what the psychosoma is and what it does.

How many of us were reprimanded and even punished for talking about such subjects and things of the children's imagination, that didn't deserve attention and constructive clarifications.

on the other side, dance rituals with drumming and stimulating substances (to psychosoma) are well accepted and even very profitable to keep people satisfied. The Old Bread and Roman Circus, as to say.

of course, I'm aware that not everyone can understand nor agree with all the contents, and neither need that, because no individual should know everything all the time, but just the fact that have seen or heard about it, it’s better than nothing.

wttah
8th March 2020, 15:01
Trauma

Just an update for those interested. I would be interested in your take on this RogeRio. Understanding your opening post I can do easier when field working.

Had a "look" within the "pearl", there is a form in there, A long "thorn". It fits the description of a thought form though you would have to add very strong emotions such as terror. There is also something more.

Ordinarily we experience one side of an event, our own side. But let's use an analogy. If I were punch someone, I don't experience their pain, their hurt feelings and so on. We only experience one half of the event.

So the " thorn" has something foreign within, if I understand this correctly, two memories of the same event. One is the purpertrator's thought-feelings alongside of her own.

That is so very wrong.

It is said that the aetheric body holds the memories, I think that is so temporarily or perhaps you need the aetheric to access memories that are recorded in a deeper level of self, or maybe it is the optical principals of the bio-electric/aetheric where one mistakes the reflection for the actual thing. (Please excuse my lack of correct nomenclature.) My own suspicion is there is an optical process here because I am watching two things, the thorn and the personal memories located in the vicinity of the thymus gland that lays behind the heart. What happens in the bioelectric/aetheric effects the other.

Time for bed, I'll sleep on this bit of progress. Been working on this for quite a few years now.

TomKat
8th March 2020, 18:10
Any ideas on fixing the trauma?

For earthbound spirits/"hungry ghosts" I always send them to the light (astral plane). It's in Edith Fiore's book Unquiet Dead, but I originally learned it in Michael Harner's shaman class.

I'm not sure how "sending" helps with trauma(?)

They join with their bigger self. Also, they have hospitals and such there. But I agree, they're better off if they can solve their trauma on this side before going home.

wttah
8th March 2020, 23:23
Any ideas on fixing the trauma?

For earthbound spirits/"hungry ghosts" I always send them to the light (astral plane). It's in Edith Fiore's book Unquiet Dead, but I originally learned it in Michael Harner's shaman class.

I'm not sure how "sending" helps with trauma(?)

They join with their bigger self. Also, they have hospitals and such there. But I agree, they're better off if they can solve their trauma on this side before going home.

Yeah, better for a lot of reasons.

I don't think the care given in those hospitals is really all that good, More of a place to wake up in and stay while the memories return. Not everyone gets that care. Especially if the deceased relatives don't know ahead of time that someone is going to die. Or don't want to be there.

Ever wondered about the ascended maters and saints?

Trauma is very deeply embedded and carries over into the next life. The purpertrators can find their victims again if the trauma is still there. Those masters, well, many skipped out of life too soon and are the equivalent of children too scared to live. Those Saints from the East, well many dumped their karma on their devoted students and ran.

There is a whole layer of these people, many of which have been dead for so long they have forgotten what it is like to be alive.

Personally I don't think much of them., they are too frightened of living to come here and help make this a better world.

That is another layer of the spirit world, to go on the list you made. The human ascended masters and Saints.

That might sound harsh of me to say, but it is what it is.

Removing that "thorn" from that girl must have helped, she clung so tight all night she almost physically suffocated me. She isn't scared of her attackers any more either. Something must have helped. We'll see in the long term.

wttah
8th March 2020, 23:42
RogeRio, the tip on fixing her memories looks like it worked, thankyou from us both.

Your map of the selves works.

TomKat
9th March 2020, 01:52
I don't think the care given in those hospitals is really all that good, More of a place to wake up in and stay while the memories return. Not everyone gets that care. Especially if the deceased relatives don't know ahead of time that someone is going to die. Or don't want to be there.


Yes, they do sloppy work on the astral. But I think people who reincarnate from the astral are better off than those who do it from an earthbound state, still dripping ectoplasm, stuck in their last life identity.

RogeRio
9th March 2020, 03:06
RogeRio, the tip on fixing her memories looks like it worked, thankyou from us both.


It makes me happy to know the progress, and I didn't answer before because I was having doubts about what to address in this case. It occurred to me that the pearl could be like a clot and the thorn inside some type of implant.

for example, the implant could be exploring a pre-disposition to be a victim, so the real memory of the facts is surpassing by a hidden fear of martyrdom.

its interesting how the mind works through sub-conscious, for example, the martyr is not a victim because is more a heroe, so, the sub-conscious not allow (the victim) to be a victim, blocking that info (memory) to be knowed as it really are. That memory is wrong, and because this wrong the psych process can't finish well.

mentally it is like pressing a button and turning on the light, but as it is sub conscious, treatment is not so simple, and each case is different.

--

about Trauma, is another endless subject

Post-death parapsychoses also occur due to small psychological traumas that the intraphysical may have suffered in last days into the human body. A minimal psychological trauma, such as deception, mistakes, self-guilt, grief or friction, binds the soul to a secondary terrestrial problem that is difficult for the ego to eliminate immediately.

This becomes transformed into a Fixed Idea, a tenacious monoideistic or adherent theme. The extraphysical being wishes to remove it from its mind (para-mind) and perform mental para-hygiene, but is unable to do so alone, because don’t realize what’s really going on.



For earthbound spirits/"hungry ghosts" I always send them to the light (astral plane).

may be souless cascades like zombies, that are dissolved with light baths

but it is important to clean up (sanitize) their power supply, because you " send one to the light " and have ten in line to take the place.

wttah
9th March 2020, 03:24
I don't think the care given in those hospitals is really all that good, More of a place to wake up in and stay while the memories return. Not everyone gets that care. Especially if the deceased relatives don't know ahead of time that someone is going to die. Or don't want to be there.


Yes, they do sloppy work on the astral. But I think people who reincarnate from the astral are better off than those who do it from an earthbound state, still dripping ectoplasm, stuck in their last life identity.

Yeah, room for improvement. But that could be a limitation on their side. From reading RogeRio's opening post, I would suggest Beings who could be called "soul level" might be "materially challenged" to use a PC term. Not having access to the "lower" places would mean they need to have people on the ground one might say. That also suggests they need us more then we need them. ; )


I think people who reincarnate from the astral are better off than those who do it from an earthbound state

Yeah it is all a big mess, just my opinion here, If people help where they can, to solve a few problems for others, then lots of little fixes add up.

Trauma is a big one for the living and the deceased both. It also affects subsequent lives. So an important one to developed a cure for. It gets mistaken for karma.

The thought form of the *thorn" was long and sharp and made of what one would call crystalized terror. Once removed, the young lady disappeared with what I think was probably her Dweller on the Threshold (not sure where that fits in the OP). I heard screams for a while which I ignored. I understand her Dweller took her to face her attackers and she "returned" something of theirs.. She is much happier and I can see her smiling for the first time.

But that is just one case, other people will have to repeat it to know if truely successful.

RogeRio
9th March 2020, 04:10
That also suggests they need us more then we need them. ; )


indeed, they have no physical-body, neither psych-body (psychosoma) to act, but they entry through mental-body (mentalsoma) to share our psychosfere.

it's very different than control the psychosfere by brainwashing and/or psych intrusions .. very different !!

wttah
9th March 2020, 04:42
RogeRio, the tip on fixing her memories looks like it worked, thankyou from us both.


It makes me happy to know the progress, and I didn't answer before because I was having doubts about what to address in this case. It occurred to me that the pearl could be like a clot and the thorn inside some type of implant.

for example, the implant could be exploring a pre-disposition to be a victim, so the real memory of the facts is surpassing by a hidden fear of martyrdom.

its interesting how the mind works through sub-conscious, for example, the martyr is not a victim because is more a heroe, so, the sub-conscious not allow (the victim) to be a victim, blocking that info (memory) to be knowed as it really are. That memory is wrong, and because this wrong the psych process can't finish well.

mentally it is like pressing a button and turning on the light, but as it is sub conscious, treatment is not so simple, and each case is different.

--

about Trauma, is another endless subject


I think you are right there.

There was a similar thing in me too, a thorn from the same event. I was with a group of dowsers looking for a missing girl and my projection was with her when she died.




Post-death parapsychoses also occur due to small psychological traumas that the intraphysical may have suffered in last days into the human body. A minimal psychological trauma, such as deception, mistakes, self-guilt, grief or friction, binds the soul to a secondary terrestrial problem that is difficult for the ego to eliminate immediately.

This becomes transformed into a Fixed Idea, a tenacious monoideistic or adherent theme. The extraphysical being wishes to remove it from its mind (para-mind) and perform mental para-hygiene, but is unable to do so alone, because don’t realize what’s really going on.



I have seen repeated betrayal work like that in myself. The concept of para-hygiene is one that this world needs. So I like your work RogeRio, even though I don't understand a lot of it.

On the other hand, my young lady friend does understand it, she read your OP over my shoulder. She also knows how trauma works and how to treat it from practical experience. There are lots of deceased trauma children who will line up in front of her when word gets around. A way forward for her. Plus I don't mind if she goes to a particular "collage" to learn more.

One thing of note. The Dweller appeared after the trauma was removed. My guess is the trauma may have halted the Dweller process after death.

So logically things would be better if we can clear the traumas that interfere with the Dweller.

But I am comphy with some of my "fixed ideas", and my girl has free reign to poke about in my bio-electric system, however she actually thinks some of my negatives are worth keeping. " I like you the way you are" is her comment on that.

wttah
9th March 2020, 14:24
Just a note for those who followed the Dweller references.

Rudolf Steiner spoke of the Dweller on the Threshold in his lectures. From memory, the Dweller is an astral Being that accompanies a person through reincarnations and shows itself when the person is ready to stand upon their own two feet and take responsibility for their actions. According to Steiner there are two Dwellers, a lesser and a greater. Steiner's words on the Dweller are perhaps dramatic to the modern spiritual mind and perhaps archaic.

However, my own opinion is that the words of Steiner are meant to evoke a certain dramatic feeling in the reader. I would suggest the reader put aside the analytical mind and feel the mood. Here is the lecture from the Steiner Archives: The Guardian of the Threshold (https://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/GA010/English/AP1947/GA010_c10.html).

With the focus in modern times (and ancient times for that matter) of the soul world as being more important than the corporeal and the desire worlds - The Psychosoma as RogeRio refers it. I will contend the desire world begats the soul world. For what is soul other then an aggregate of dynamic memories in essence?

We are the ones who live and die here.

That aside I can relate the little I know about The Dweller.

Keep in mind that this case is of a deceased person, I haven't tried this on a living person. I have the young lady's permission to relate the event.

To successfully remove the deep seated trauma the assistance of the person's Dweller was needed. That is my understanding from my limited experience.

The trauma was crystalized experience.

There was a second foreign crystallised experience present.

The purpertrator's and the victim's experience together in one.

The experience is an embedded trauma.

If you can remove it, the Dweller can deal with it.

My understanding is; the Dweller is ordinarily not encountered. An exception can be made in extraordinary circumstance it seems.

When you meet a Dweller you will probably understand Steiner's use of drama to evoke a certain feeling rather than an intellectual concept.

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The young lady is going to (inner world) collage, she is happy and has a future.

I got to see her smile for the first time, I am happy.

RogeRio
9th March 2020, 14:44
The purpertrator's and the victim's experience together in one.

The experience is an embedded trauma.

If you can remove it, the Dweller can deal with it.


Yes wttah, this conclusion is wise and fully coherent with others serious ethical researchers on this subject. That's why I introduced the term Implant, to be investigated on diagnosing the circumstances.

On the thread 40 bio-energetic exercises (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108653-40-BIO-ENERGETIC-EXERCICES-to-be-aware-and-awake-about-para-psychism.), at the end I added ten more complex and advanced bio-energetic tasks, where we can found:



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4. dis-Harassment. Extraphysical dis-interest, or hetero-confrontations face to face, with harassing consciences based on self-confidence, fearlessness, and cosmoethical care intention.

5. Evocation. When timely, enlightening and constructive, of intraphysical or extraphysical, aiming at reconciliations and improvements in the tasks of interconscious assistance.
these tech guidelines seems some vague at first glance, but it are very helpful, indeed

RogeRio
10th March 2020, 00:50
Trauma

Just an update for those interested. I would be interested in your take on this RogeRio. Understanding your opening post I can do easier when field working.


Freud said as traumatic any exitations from outside which are powerful enough to break through the protetive shield. The mental apparatus as being flooded with large amounts of stimuli which cannot be mastered and bound.

Carl Jung never accept Freud's insistence the causes of psychic conflicts would always involve some trauma of sexual nature, and Freud did not admit Jung's interest in spiritual phenomena as valid sources of study in itself.

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(personal note)
If we change Freud's sexual nature to esoteric Yin-Yang nature of energies instead only sex (female-male) approach, Freud tech description fits with Carl Jung studies unrestricted.
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Jung proposed that art can be used to alleviate or contain feelings of trauma, fear, or anxiety and also to repair, restore and heal. In his work with patients and in his own personal explorations, Jung wrote that art expression and images found in dreams could be helpful in recovering from trauma and emotional distress. At times of emotional distress, he often drew, painted, or made objects and constructions which he recognized as more than recreational.

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(personal note)
if art can alleviate trauma, what's needed to Fix ?
R - a (safe) way to express that problem and Fix It

awareness and consciousness seems to be a inevitable path
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The extraphysical trauma is characterized by a specific triggering agent, almost always spontaneously identified; a specific degree of intensity; susceptibility of the consciousness; and extent of the consciousness’ incapacity to respond adequately to the trauma, either by absorbing it, sublimating it, or overcoming it with naturality, as soon as it occurs.

In fact, extraphysical trauma works therapeutically for the consciousness (you) vaccinating or curing with respect to the aspects of the extraphysical dimension of which one was unaware or had never experienced.

Extraphysical traumas are actually inevitable and indispensable for the individual development of extraphysical evolution. Nevertheless, there are countless obscure aspects regarding this subject of physical-extraphysical emotions requiring enormous amounts of advanced research in order for them to be better understood.

wttah
10th March 2020, 00:55
The purpertrator's and the victim's experience together in one.

The experience is an embedded trauma.

If you can remove it, the Dweller can deal with it.


Yes wttah, this conclusion is wise and fully coherent with others serious ethical researchers on this subject. That's why I introduced the term Implant, to be investigated on diagnosing the circumstances.

On the thread 40 bio-energetic exercises (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108653-40-BIO-ENERGETIC-EXERCICES-to-be-aware-and-awake-about-para-psychism.), at the end I added ten more complex and advanced bio-energetic tasks, where we can found:



.
4. dis-Harassment. Extraphysical dis-interest, or hetero-confrontations face to face, with harassing consciences based on self-confidence, fearlessness, and cosmoethical care intention.

5. Evocation. When timely, enlightening and constructive, of intraphysical or extraphysical, aiming at reconciliations and improvements in the tasks of interconscious assistance.
these tech guidelines seems some vague at first glance, but it are very helpful, indeed

The word "Implant" works, though one needs to keep in mind that there is "intent" as an aspect of "implant".

So one would look for foreign substances in the first instance. The example of the "embedded trauma" above. On the physical, a bullet or knife blade. Foreign things, if you know what to look for. Implanted memories can be difficult to detect.

And we can also have native implants such as a desire or fear created passively by advertising for example.

That us two that come to mind.

wttah
10th March 2020, 04:17
Trauma

Just an update for those interested. I would be interested in your take on this RogeRio. Understanding your opening post I can do easier when field working.


Freud said as traumatic any exitations from outside which are powerful enough to break through the protetive shield. The mental apparatus as being flooded with large amounts of stimuli which cannot be mastered and bound.

Carl Jung never accept Freud's insistence the causes of psychic conflicts would always involve some trauma of sexual nature, and Freud did not admit Jung's interest in spiritual phenomena as valid sources of study in itself.

--
(personal note)
If we change Freud's sexual nature to esoteric Yin-Yang nature of energies instead only sex (female-male) approach, Freud tech description fits with Carl Jung studies unrestricted.
--

Jung proposed that art can be used to alleviate or contain feelings of trauma, fear, or anxiety and also to repair, restore and heal. In his work with patients and in his own personal explorations, Jung wrote that art expression and images found in dreams could be helpful in recovering from trauma and emotional distress. At times of emotional distress, he often drew, painted, or made objects and constructions which he recognized as more than recreational.

--
(personal note)
if art can alleviate trauma, what's needed to Fix ?
R - a (safe) way to express that problem and Fix It

awareness and consciousness seems to be a inevitable path
--

The extraphysical trauma is characterized by a specific triggering agent, almost always spontaneously identified; a specific degree of intensity; susceptibility of the consciousness; and extent of the consciousness’ incapacity to respond adequately to the trauma, either by absorbing it, sublimating it, or overcoming it with naturality, as soon as it occurs.

In fact, extraphysical trauma works therapeutically for the consciousness (you) vaccinating or curing with respect to the aspects of the extraphysical dimension of which one was unaware or had never experienced.

Extraphysical traumas are actually inevitable and indispensable for the individual development of extraphysical evolution. Nevertheless, there are countless obscure aspects regarding this subject of physical-extraphysical emotions requiring enormous amounts of advanced research in order for them to be better understood.

Hmmm.

Hmmm, I think the idea of using artistic expression as a treatment for trauma is desperation. Honestly, I think you have to go the Emergency department of a hospital route and begin by repairing the damage to the subtle anatomy first. Like removing the foreign intent that has crystalized into an object in the subtle anatomy.

Then stabilize the patient and bring in understanding of the event so they can cope with what has happened.

Time then heals.

Keep in mind I deal with the worst case scenarios, so my opinions are pragmatic.

Contrast with children who have died of neglect and disease. They just need to be cleaned up and shown some care and attention. They then respond and pick up themselves once they understand it is over.

I do wonder if those two theoretical psychologists ever experienced extreme real trauma themselves.

RogeRio
10th March 2020, 06:10
Like removing the foreign intent that has crystalized into an object in the subtle anatomy.
please, the subject don't approach on physical trauma or physical objects

Human proof or corpus delicti does not apply to the psychosoma,although anatomic (body) analogies are applied to understand psycho traumas

This is why one vehicle is a Replica of the other.---



Keep in mind I deal with the worst case scenarios, so my opinions are pragmatic.


I have no way of guessing your scenarios neither opinions if I am not previously informed about them, I'm sorry.

I researched primary sources of information and gathered them in the most objective and coherent way possible to me, to answer the question of psychic trauma in a general way and not in a specific way in particular, even because, I was not previous aware about specific approach you are interested.


I would be interested in your take on this RogeRio

I focused only on this generic (psych & para-psych trauma) demand without considering other details

wttah
10th March 2020, 09:40
Like removing the foreign intent that has crystalized into an object in the subtle anatomy.
please, the subject don't approach on physical trauma or physical objects

Human proof or corpus delicti does not apply to the psychosoma,although anatomic (body) analogies are applied to understand psycho traumas

This is why one vehicle is a Replica of the other.---



Keep in mind I deal with the worst case scenarios, so my opinions are pragmatic.


I have no way of guessing your scenarios neither opinions if I am not previously informed about them, I'm sorry.

I researched primary sources of information and gathered them in the most objective and coherent way possible to me, to answer the question of psychic trauma in a general way and not in a specific way in particular, even because, I was not previous aware about specific approach you are interested.


I would be interested in your take on this RogeRio

I focused only on this generic (psych & para-psych trauma) demand without considering other details

Okay, I'll think of non physical analogies.

One thing to be aware of with Traumas that I learned in this case of the young lady is that one also needs to address the self image of the person.

There are between 1 and 2 hundred definable layers in the psychosoma I understand in a living Being such as a human. A lot.

Living humans have been studied and your work displays this comprehensive understanding I can see.

Now in the deceased human, this can be very different.

Natural death in old age. I have seen people "wake up" in the astral in an ordered and fairly conventional manner. It takes about two weeks for the memories to return and from observation the emotionally strongest return first. With these ordered deaths the relatives know ahead of time and are there at the deathbed and there when the person "wakes up".

My understanding is that the aetheric body is shed at death along with the physical. I have not observed that so I cannot say absolutely. The appearance is often of the time when they achieved their goal in life. For instance a person who wanted to be a star in the ballet and was born with that desire, and if she achieved it at say the age of sixteen years as a soloist in a ballet company, she will appear at that age immediately after death.

That is best case scenario. The relatives can handle the process.

However, when things go wrong . . . .

. . .. sudden accidents and murders for example. The deceased person can be left with some of the aetheric, or bio-electric if one prefers that term.

So you find deceased people very close to the physical for this reason. I understand the term "earthbound spirits" includes these deceased people. Many are young.

So, when dealing with the deceased and especially children and teenagers, one needs to treat them as if they are alive to a great degree. This is due to the presence of the aetheric. They are not purely astral mental and higher.

Because the aetheric closest to the physical body is the life of the physical body. It is more than just shape or a memory. For some of them it is a case similar to a living amputee and the phantom sensations where the limb used to be. The difference is the whole body is essentially amputated.

Determination to live can cause this, so can certain diseases. (Hopefully) long forgotten occult practices too.

So when you are dealing with a deceased person who retains the aetheric/bio-electric(?) you have to take a lot of care. Their self image is much more biological and still governed by the aetheric. Disease such as viruses and bacteria that were present in the aetheric can still be present and active. Also the damage to the aetheric caused in life such as burns, blunt trauma and so on.

They still have these damaged layers of the bio-electric/aetheric.

All these things have to be dealt with logically and almost in a physical way. That is to say, when plague is still active in the bio-electric body, the best remedy is the antibiotic that cures plague in the living corporeal person. Honey and terramycin both have aetheric aspects one can use to treat the aetheric in the deceased.

In practice, and especially in very young deceased children, treating them and cleaning them up is a very (almost biologically) messy thing to do. One gets pee'd on, vomited on, and worse. Especially when you use herbs to clean out their gastrointestinal tube and the other cavities such as the bladder, lungs ears and so on. Remember here that the closer the aetheric is to the physical body the more the aetheric confirms to physical processes and shape. It is in the aetheric cavities that one finds the roots of virus colonies. And by the way when viral colonies grow they become increasingly intellegent. But that is my present personal study and outside this thread.

I could write for hours, but my phone is at 5% battery and making threats : )

I hope I didn't get side tracked while writing.

Oh that's right, after the crystalized thought form (excrescence if you wish) is removed, one must still treat the self image of the person, including all the other injuries, aetheric, emotional and mental so they can be comphy in themselves. Girls need to feel pretty. Boys can have a few scars, "battle trophies" one might say.

Hope this all makes sense.

wttah
10th March 2020, 14:36
Post above continued, phone mostly charged.

Looking back, that last post is grim. It was not meant to be. There are the wonders too out there.

Let's just say I have an eye in this reality and one in those places folks are warned not to go. "There be dragons! is what was said on the old seafarer's maps. There may be dragons there may not. In either case the warning serves to keep people away.

The simple wonders are there too, the joys.

There is a place I call "the fields of flowers". That is where those youngsters go after cleaning them up and making them presentable. I don't know much about that field, I only go to look occasionally and check up on them. They wave if they see me. They are running about like ordinary children.

These things I describe happen very quickly. In real time one might say or perhaps just my linear awareness. The young lady quit collage today. She felt useless there.

In a previous post I mentioned city-states here and there in a vast wildness. Some of those those city-states are human enclaves. The Vatican is one, Hassan bin Sabbah's fortress is another and so on.

Hassan bin Sabbath is an interesting chap. His famous quote; " Nothing is forbidden. Everything is allowed." is so, from what I have seen anyway. Modern philosophers have sugar coated those words to mean something else. People do that.

The human condition is to to be born and grow up. First love, first broken heart. Falling in love anew, having children and watching them grow up. Family teaches children to care for others. Civilisation is an extension of family. Thus the city-states. Laws are made to protect, or at least should be.

If humanity only knew how lucky it is to be able to have family. There are races out there who look on in envy.

Were it not for family, there would be no "soul" world of humanity. Somewhere people lost sight of this.

"There are more wonders between heaven and earth, Horatio. Then dreamt of in your philosophies." is a quote from Hamlet. - I have always liked that quote.

The world can be grim, but it also abounds in wonders.

RogeRio
11th March 2020, 01:25
. . .. sudden accidents and murders for example. The deceased person can be left with some of the aetheric, or bio-electric if one prefers that term.

So you find deceased people very close to the physical for this reason. I understand the term "earthbound spirits" includes these deceased people. Many are young.

Sudden accidents forces the subtil bodies out of the physical body unaware of this, so people have no idea about the own (first) death. Near Death experiences (NDE) when people experience similar subtil circumstances the soul-consciusness can come back to physical body and wake up, but when the physical body is damage and the person can not come back (to use this vehicle - as body), tends to orbit the deceased body and the people nearby, for the sake of affinity, until can get another path. The movie Ghost (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_(1990_film)) is about this.

The person know has not completed his journey and does not understand his physical life has been interrupted and has no way of continuing in it.



So, when dealing with the deceased and especially children and teenagers, one needs to treat them as if they are alive to a great degree. This is due to the presence of the aetheric. They are not purely astral mental and higher.

Because the aetheric closest to the physical body is the life of the physical body. It is more than just shape or a memory. For some of them it is a case similar to a living amputee and the phantom sensations where the limb used to be. The difference is the whole body is essentially amputated.This is a very good analogy ("the whole body is essentially amputated."). At this time, the culture, knowledge, beliefs and lucidity of person will impact what's going to happen, and the most commom is lack of lucidity, because is not well prepared to experience these circumstances, as well as may be deeply unhappy, indignant, revolted, etc.

Some still search for complete a task. The movie The Sixth Sense (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sixth_Sense) where a psychologist insists on treating a sensitive boy, to find out from the boy that himself had been murdered.


They still have these damaged layers of the bio-electric/aetheric.Physical damages after first death are "memories not processed" on psychosoma, so are not exactly a Physical Thing, neither biological, because the biological body was gone, and all biological diseases are gone too. That's why an old age weak person feels more good out of the body after death. The etheric body is malleable and can change its appearance depending on the mental and emotional state.

"memories not processed" results on Unresolved Emotions, for example.

Physical (biological) disease has its counterpart in the etheric, but this cannot be well analyzed through a cartezian paradigm, since certain diseases of the spirit manifest in the body and certain diseases of the body manifest in the spirit. Psychopathy and sociopathy are diseases of the spirit and not of the body, for example.



All these things have to be dealt with logically and almost in a physical way. That is to say, when plague is still active in the bio-electric body, the best remedy is the antibiotic that cures plague in the living corporeal person.I guess there are a confusion here, because no one can give antibiotic to a death person, and the medicin will not be metabolized, unless the body is still alive.

Unless you're talking about extra physical remedies, then it's my confusion.

So, If the physical body is still alive, it's not death and I'm talking about after death, and not before. I suposed you talk about the last moments of life, trying to safe the life and not dealing with subtle bodies after consummate physical (or biological) death.



One gets pee'd on, vomited on, and worse. Especially when you use herbs to clean out their gastrointestinal tube and the other cavities such as the bladder, lungs ears and so on.to be more precise, these are called disassimilation process, i.e., things there are absorbed (assimilate) and not processed as expected, causing stagnation, intoxication, malfunction and disease in general.



Hope this all makes sense. Yes, I appreciate your argues. I confess that's not an area which I have much experience to share, but I'm familiar about the tech approachs most used by whom work with these issues.

I am not very versed in the subject, but I am not a layman. I'm engineer not a doctor.

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There is a place I call "the fields of flowers". That is where those youngsters go after cleaning them up and making them presentable. I don't know much about that field, I only go to look occasionally and check up on them.

some call it Elysian Fields, or Champs Elisee (french). It's a place to rest and regeneration.



In a previous post I mentioned city-states here and there in a vast wildness. Some of those those city-states are human enclaves. The Vatican is one, Hassan bin Sabbah's fortress is another and so on. The real life here (on physical) reflect the subtil ones pre-existence. The physical world is just a tip of the iceberg, as to say.

a great process of reurbanization (civilization) and pacification (anti-belligerence) started in the 20th century in a planetary Troposphere scale, so many things are being resolved (or experienced) down here, in order to improve what is above

As Above, So Bellow

wttah
11th March 2020, 02:35
I appreciate the exchange of views, even when they differ slightly. We can gain a better understanding.



Physical (biological) disease has its counterpart in the etheric, but this cannot be well analyzed through a cartezian paradigm, since certain diseases of the spirit manifest themselves in the body and certain diseases of the body manifest themselves in the spirit. Psychopathy and sociopathy are diseases of the spirit and not of the body, for example.

Quote All these things have to be dealt with logically and almost in a physical way. That is to say, when plague is still active in the bio-electric body, the best remedy is the antibiotic that cures plague in the living corporeal person.
I guess there are a confusion here, because no one can give antibiotic to a death person, and the medicin will not be metabolized, unless the body is still alive, unless you're talking about extra physical remedies, then it's my confusion.

So, If the physical body is still alive, it's not death and I'm talking about after death, and not before. I suposed you talk about the last moments of life, trying to safe the life and not dealing with subtle bodies after consummate physical (or biological) death.

It may be true that the aetheric is not diseased per se.

Yet if one sees the aetheric cavities of the aetheric, one can find disease with the deceased people.

In the living physical person, one should look in the cavities such as bladder and gastrointestinal tube. Topologically the contents of the gastro is outside the body. Virus colonies in the gastro have a vague collective consciousness very much like a worm's consciousness. Some form a symbiotic relationship with the living human.

When the virus's consciouness becomes more than physical, it can accompany the person across the threshold of death. Normally that does not happen.

If we focus our inner sight on the aetheric body, our mind filters. we might see the aetheric bladder, but what about what is inside the aetheric bladder? Especially if it is very low consciousness? Clairvoyants don't often comment upon the parasites such as intestinal worms when they look at a person, yet the parasite has an aetheric body and astral. Our minds do not acknowledge them as a part of what we are looking for is probably what happens.


When the worm (collective colony) invades the interior of the physical living body, as polio does when it moves to the central nervous system, the colony Metamorphosis into a plant like consciousness. The polio becomes conscious as the nervous system is conscious, that is more than a worm whom eats only the partially digested food we eat. The polio as a plant-like consciousness can be both parasitic and symbiotic in nature. One can say that this consciousness can accompany the person after death. During an epidemic the spread of the virus forms a distributed collective consciousness that can become very intelligent and move from plant-like to animal-like consciousness. So much so one can communicate with it. It's life span depends on how well it can spread and hibernate in reservoirs.

The medicine is extra-physical yes. I used Radionics when I was younger, with enough practice one does not need the radionics machines anymore.

Ellyssian fields and regeneration. Good I put them in the right place then. Thanks for that RogeRio.

I hope I don't over load with information. I write to compensate for the accumulated trauma of spending too much time in the lower worlds. Like the artistic expression as a therapy for trauma. It helps a little to get it out of your system but it is only buying a little bit of time. A bandaid at best.

I'm not a doctor either by the way, just self taught to give a little first aid :)

wttah
11th March 2020, 04:05
So, If the physical body is still alive, it's not death and I'm talking about after death, and not before. I suposed you talk about the last moments of life, trying to safe the life and not dealing with subtle bodies after consummate physical (or biological) death.


Well, talking about dead people who haven't lost their aetheric.



Quote One gets pee'd on, vomited on, and worse. Especially when you use herbs to clean out their gastrointestinal tube and the other cavities such as the bladder, lungs ears and so on.
to be more precise, these are called disassimilation process, i.e., things there are absorbed (assimilate) and not processed as expected, causing stagnation, intoxication, malfunction and disease in general.

One could call it a disassimilation process. That works for a technical name. It is still messy to work with in kids though.

There are times when one must employ the properties of nutmeg when "things" are growing in the womb. The problem of normal pregnancy in the afterlife is difficult. Though a happy outcome is achievable.

(wttah adds midwifery to his resume ; )

Though I get the impression these things are left out of spiritual teachings and texts.

RogeRio
11th March 2020, 04:41
If we focus our inner sight on the aetheric body, our mind filters. we might see the aetheric bladder, but what about what is inside the aetheric bladder? Especially if it is very low consciousness? Clairvoyants don't often comment upon the parasites such as intestinal worms when they look at a person, yet the parasite has an aetheric body and astral. Our minds do not acknowledge them as a part of what we are looking for is probably what happens.


everything is relative and depends on Clairvoyant skills, knowledge, resources avaiable, so there are infinite possibilities of being trained or not, being able or not, etc

about the things inside, going beyond psychosoma, under perspective of mentalsoma (mental-body) every matter psych and physic is condensed energy with individual signature of it mind creation, so no atomic particle goes unnoticed, if the observer wants to observe it.

wttah
11th March 2020, 05:14
Yeah, skill plays a part definitely.

The signature can be useful, especially in forensics. The bioengineers of antediluvian times can be traced that way.