COVID-19 Contrarians

[AutumnW]

Sweden and Belarus (https://www.rt.com/news/484515-sweden-covid-no-lockdown/) are doing next to nothing in terms of lockdown.

"The approach has been broadly well received by the public, who view it as a more sensible course of action than the draconian steps taken in other countries."

In some hotspots (https://www.rt.com/op-ed/484548-coronavirus--people-die-outcome/) such as UK and New York with their restrictions:

"... in the week ending on the 8th of March 2019, 10,898 people died in total in the UK. This year, in the week ending the 6th of March 2020, the equivalent figure was almost identical: 10,895.

An article this morning claims NYC is facing a catastrophe because they have had 450 Coronavirus deaths since January & someone is dying every 17 minutes.

So you know—regularly, NYC has 419 deaths every single day & loses a person every 9 minutes."


I am not sure that a great deal of "extra" deaths come from this. A nasty disease that for many people might require treatment, and is extra fatal to those with "complications", i. e. mainly died from some other cause when they were weakened by Coronavirus, is perhaps accurate. "Hoax" is not a good term, since there is something real, and one can only watch if Sweden and Belarus deteriorate beyond the conditions of other countries.

As for Ibuprofen, I would never use it again. Some years back I took it due to an injury. It did what it was supposed to do, but then nearly killed me. I started developing an anaphylaxis which included dermatographism that lasted about a year. I figured that the liver mainly uses copper to process toxins and ate cashews as one of the best sources, which seemed to help get rid of it. I have never used another pharmaceutical product since, and probably never will.

Terrible about ibuprophen. It is a horrible drug and nobody should take it. I'm not sure if it was this drug or another non steroidal anti-inflammatory drug where it was found the maker had fudged all the data on side effects, some of them dangerous, like yours. And yet....it is still on the market. Big pharma IS terrible, by and large. I completely agree with that sentiment. Sorry to hear you went through that. It must have been terrifying.:(

Sweden is practicing physical distancing and being careful. That's what its government's asked them to do and that is why they are doing it. Good. Their numbers are climbing, I heard but I think their hospitals are okay. Not sure.

It's likely that the U.S. will usher in a full on military dictatorship through this epidemic. If there was a plan, or if this is just an on the fly decision, a product of opportunistic thinking is a question. But....nothing right now is very clear.

[AutumnW]

He is doing a monumental job of challenging the Medical Cartel, the media, both mainstream and alt, and the governments. Caliban

And he alone knows exactly how to put it all together, without any gaps and all based on good old fashioned muck raking. I am sure he wouldn't comb through a raft of poorly sourced and unsubstantiated material on the internet to fill in the blanks. He is a dot connecting super hero and a Trump supporter apparently? Or has he changed his tune on that?

[Phoenix]

Hi Guys, here is some research that I personally did myself today. I am trained as a Chemical Engineer from a university that was ranked in the top 5 in the USA for this specification at the time, so, I'm not stupid.

Here's some critical thinking. I am not saying I KNOW all of this 100%, but here is some investigative research:

In 2012, the CIA declassified this scientific study that occured in 1977:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mX1fSrTzvWIxJBOC0Q8POLD0XhBQSpDv/view

Summary:

“Morphological, functional, and biochemical studies conducted in humans and animals revealed that millimeter waves caused changes in the body manifested in the structural alterations in the skin and internal organs, qualitative and quantitative changes of the blood and bone marrow composition and changes of the conditioned reflex activity, tissue respiration, activity of enzymes participating in the process of tissue respiration and nucleic metabolism.
The degree of unfavorable effect of millimeter waves depended on the duration of the radiation and individual characteristics of the organism.”

N.P. Zalyubovskaya, 1977

MY Takeaway: Seems like millimeter waves are dangerous depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

What exactly is Tissue Respiration?

"The exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide between the atmosphere and the body cells, including inhalation and exhalation, diffusion of oxygen from the pulmonary alveoli to the blood and of carbon dioxide from the blood to the alveoli, followed by the transport of oxygen to and carbon dioxide from the body cells."

source: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/tissue+respiration

MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

Ok, so what does that have to do with today, and why does it matter? 5G. What is 5G?

Millimeter wave technology being rolled out across the world.

OK, where is 5G?

In US: Coming to a city near you...or already there. Here;s T-Mobile's map: https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/5g-coverage-map

In Wuhan, China: https://5g-emf.com/wuhan-was-the-province-where-5g-was-rolled-out-now-the-center-of-deadly-virus/

What did we all see videos of poor Wuhan chinese people collapsing on the streets of? Hypoxia (Issues Breathing)

"Hypoxia is a condition in which the body or a region of the body is deprived of adequate oxygen supply at the tissue level."

MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism; and I saw many videos of people collapsing, unable to breathe, in Wuhan, China where there are 10,000+ 5G towers currently.

Also it is well documented that the amount of pollution in Wuhan is horrific, thus adding into the mix here that the people's cells were already heavily damaged from the pollution...

Next time, we look at:
- Electroportation (a microbiology technique in which an electrical field is applied to cells in order to increase the permeability of the cell membrane, allowing chemicals, drugs, or DNA to be introduced into the cell)
- Corona-virus (a corona discharge is an electrical discharge brought on by the ionization of a fluid such as air)
- Virus Exosomes
- Vaccines

Who's doing this: it's obivous...
Why: obvious...

Conclusion: this could explain the weird and non-standard responses people are having to the supposed 'virus' in different locations.

Idea: we should all pull together and make a google sheet on REAL people we know who have gotten pnemonia-like illness over the past 3 months, and for them to honestly list their comorbities, and have them search the publicly available 5G maps to connect their health history with 5G potential interference...

UPDATE:

Also, some have said this doesnt make sense since there's no 5G in Iran, but this article would say otherwise: https://financialtribune.com/articles/sci-tech/72829/irancell-ericsson-test-5g-systems

5G in Italy: https://www.gsmarena.com/italy_becomes_the_third_european_country_with_5g-news-37424.php

5G already blanketing the US as well, search it and see Tmobile, Verizon and others coverage maps...

[AutumnW]

Here is an article that all here should find intriguing. It's about the highly credentialed and respected microbiologist working at Fort Detrick who was fingered for the anthras attacks. For anyone wondering if elements within the U.S. military (not the entire military!) are capable of creating mayhem with biological agents, please read. This is so darned fishy. There's pretty suspicious history that supports biowarfare theory of corona virus--in that, nobody can say that, "Oh, they would never do such a thing."


Bruce Ivins, a microbiologist at the US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick, Maryland, reportedly committed suicide after ingesting prescription-strength Tylenol and codeine, as the FBI prepared to charge him in the anthrax attacks weeks after the 9/11 attack in 2001.

Ivins was part of the FBI team that investigated the anthrax sent in letters to the Senate’s Democratic leadership.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/fort-detrick-scientist-commits-suicide-as-anthrax-investigation-closes-in/9730

[shaberon]

I figure if everyone wore a mask in public for a good while, that might work as well as partial lockdowns. In that way, I don't blame people for being suspicious of 'govt.' Truth be told, I figure this may be a military bioweapon from Fort Detrick targeting China and the U.S. is experiencing blowback. This is pure 'maybe,' in my mind. It could also be a natural event. Nothing should be ruled out. At the same time, stating anything with complete certainty as to cause is premature though you can find plenty of people who are just adamant that they are in the know, have superior intellect and "have done the research" so they just know for sure.




The mask seems to be mainly effective to prevent you from spreading a virus you already have. Medical staff are trained not to touch their faces, etc., but if I go around with a mask and gloves, I am just collecting germs on them, which I will probably put in my own eyes.

The second part about "knowing for sure" about some kind of evidence is something we should be very careful with; just because Joe Biden might have used military slang, does not mean he actually confessed it is an intentionally-released bio-weapon. The closest we can get here is that some Japanese and a few other doctors looked at American evidence and found no "patient zero" and instead, possible cases that went unidentified, in the early days of it supposedly only being in China. So the President and State Department trying to demand the whole world calls it a Chinese or Wuhan virus is pretty sketchy; possibly propaganda for its own sake, but also a way to put the U. S. out of the question.

Why is it like this...American workers wanted good wages, so, we closed the shops and moved them to China and basically placed ourselves in a condition of utter dependence. Otherwise, nothing of Chinese origin could proliferate like this.

A couple of days into curfew, we say we have 1,532 cases, 157 hospitalized, 10 deaths. So in only a few days since passing a thousand, that is 3 or 4 hundred new cases, compared to a total of not much more than a hundred, two weeks ago. I will be forced to watch how that goes for at least a month, compared to Sweden, which says nearly 3,500 cases and 105 deaths, and this is pretty fair, since we have almost exactly the same population.

As far as I can tell, it is mostly an urban disease; out here in the rural areas, no one has it, and the shutdowns should perhaps have been a local decision not state. Yes, it is perhaps going to be a bit like "taking turns" to get your exposure for something that in the long run, no one can really avoid.

[Phoenix]

As far as I can tell, it is mostly an urban disease; out here in the rural areas, no one has it, and the shutdowns should perhaps have been a local decision not state. Yes, it is perhaps going to be a bit like "taking turns" to get your exposure for something that in the long run, no one can really avoid.

Thank you Shaberon, this fits into my 5G + Pollution Causing Hypoxia + Viral Exosome Model in some already immuno-compromised people...

[AutumnW]

Autumn has been on my ignore list for years for the endless shallow armchair pot shots on subjects she could not hold an in depth conversation about in the least - Waves.

Note Waves, I have not insulted you or anyone else here, only Jon Rappaport. He is heroic in your eyes and it hurts or irritates to see someone you admire, smeared, but understand that I am not smearing you.

Back to topic!

[AutumnW]

[QUOTE=AutumnW;1347491]
As far as I can tell, it is mostly an urban disease; out here in the rural areas, no one has it, and the shutdowns should perhaps have been a local decision not state. Yes, it is perhaps going to be a bit like "taking turns" to get your exposure for something that in the long run, no one can really avoid.

Thank you Shaberon, this fits into my 5G + Pollution Causing Hypoxia + Viral Exosome Model in some already immuno-compromised people...5

It also fits germ theory. Those who live in rural areas do better than those living in cramped conditions close to sources of infection, in this case, other people. 5G may be dangerous and coronavirus is dangerous. The way people die though, doesn't have the earmarks of exposure to radiation. The effects of radiation would build up slowly over time and the afflicted would likely crawl into bed eventually, hack a bit, throw up and then slowly die with their friends and family crying by their side, "I wish I'd never bought that damn fridge that tells me when I'm out of cheese."

[shaberon]

Terrible about ibuprophen. It is a horrible drug and nobody should take it. I'm not sure if it was this drug or another non steroidal anti-inflammatory drug where it was found the maker had fudged all the data on side effects, some of them dangerous, like yours. And yet....it is still on the market. Big pharma IS terrible, by and large. I completely agree with that sentiment. Sorry to hear you went through that. It must have been terrifying.:(

No, I don't do terror. I had a much more sudden anaphylaxis when attacked by a nest of hornets, and it still did not "bother" me, it just happened. The pill was obnoxious, we would expect something to be considered an allergen, if it is a brand new molecule to one's body. I had no tolerance, since the previous time I had used any pharmaceutical, I cannot even remember. I suppose it was a similar prescription I received for a similar injury, the only time I used health insurance, until cancelling it somewhere around 2003. Before that, it was...a pharmaceutical product I took in...probably the 1970s when my parents were in control of me. That's my relationship to the pill mill. And the old stuff was probably liquid penicillin and amoxycillin, which are less questionable. Occasionally due to illness I have taken Ayurvedic and Homeopathic substances, but I doubt anyone is studying Gelsimium in relation to Coronavirus--which, from what I recall, is named for its shape, not electricity.

As it turns out, if you unfold the massive pamphlet stuck to the side of the drug, in microscopic print near the end of page eight it does say it may cause anaphylaxis and death.

I rarely feel better than when clean of Western medicine and the Western press, the whole thing is a mental disease with physical consequences. I am firmly in the view that the whole thing is a system of damnation from Aristotle. Nobody needs any of it, or I would not exist. All of our institutions are deadly and corrupt and the stream of humans it produces--at least around here, where it is pushed to the extreme--is quite disappointing. Most Canadians and Europeans do not have it this bad since there has always been acceptance of organics, homeopathy, etc., although the political and mind control problems are there, I can't imagine going to jail for questioning the Holocaust.

As you can see, rejection of Rockefeller medicine is not any kind of internet trend, since it has always been rejected, by some. I think we trip over our own feet if we forget that the Fed, the medical system, and U. S. intercessional wars have been opposed since before they started.

[waves]

Dr. Holiday, I'd be especially curious in your take on this step by step very technical explanation of what's actually going on inside the body in those with this 'unique' illness suddenly on the world stage - the cause of which is appearing to not even be a virus, and the issues surrounding the test presented by a Dr. Kaufman on Crow777's independent radio show, who has long been one of the few very grounded, discerning podcasters to me.

In short for the rest of us, Dr. Kaufman explains why it's not something you catch from outside your body. Fevers and other flu like symptoms are from cells making/excreting exosomes (sic?) in response to poisons with numerous possible origins - NONE of which are what in the medical industry are considered 'viruses' floating in the air the political parasites are using as an excuse to overturn the entire interconnectedness of the world to their destructive changes over.

It explains how many of the external issues people have proposed are playing part may be connected - triggering the cells to act, no 'catching' something else needed.

This is a deep, difficult listen for a non medical person. You can skip to the summary near the very end, but it's really worth grasping these concepts.


March 31, 2020
207.5- YOU HAVE THE BALL, DON’T TAKE THE SHOT (FREE)
https://www.crrow777radio.com/207-5-you-have-the-ball-dont-take-the-shot-free/



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[Iloveyou]

So Waves, if I understand you correctly you would deny those who see the odious Jon Rappaport for the ignorant zealot that he is, the right to express that opinion here? He claims to believe the coronavirus is a hoax that big Pharma started or was heavily involved with, if I am not mistaken. So he will manage to draw some of those who are rightfully suspicious of big P and vaccine industry into his sphere. They have to understand he is leveraging those sensibilities to draw attention to himself.

According to Rappaport, Aids was a hoax. Zika virus was a hoax and now coronavirus. Only in his imagination. He has a twin preoccupation with the powers of the imagination and indeed seems to be fantasy prone. Typical narcissist going for as many clicks as possible.

Wow. Drawing such a lovely reaction, he really must have stirred up a hornet‘s nest somewhere. Btw, his name is spelled Rappoport, not Rappaport. Respect starts with getting someone‘s name right.

On a different note:

Several well respected astrologers have recently pointed out the date around 3/29 to 4/1 as extremly dangerous for clashes, for people getting angry and overreacting and say things they would regret later. It‘s realistic and easy to comprehend for even someone with a very superficial understanding of astrology.

While I (despite my name) generally prefer by far rather open confrontation, a clearing thunderstorm than an overload of hearts and teddybears - I‘m always cautious here. It is worth it, still. I‘d hate to see more people gone.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Guys, here is some research that I personally did myself today. I am trained as a Chemical Engineer from a university that was ranked in the top 5 in the USA for this specification at the time, so, I'm not stupid.

Here's some critical thinking. I am not saying I KNOW all of this 100%, but here is some investigative research:

In 2012, the CIA declassified this scientific study that occured in 1977:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mX1fSrTzvWIxJBOC0Q8POLD0XhBQSpDv/view

Summary:

“Morphological, functional, and biochemical studies conducted in humans and animals revealed that millimeter waves caused changes in the body manifested in the structural alterations in the skin and internal organs, qualitative and quantitative changes of the blood and bone marrow composition and changes of the conditioned reflex activity, tissue respiration, activity of enzymes participating in the process of tissue respiration and nucleic metabolism.
The degree of unfavorable effect of millimeter waves depended on the duration of the radiation and individual characteristics of the organism.”

N.P. Zalyubovskaya, 1977

MY Takeaway: Seems like millimeter waves are dangerous depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

What exactly is Tissue Respiration?

"The exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide between the atmosphere and the body cells, including inhalation and exhalation, diffusion of oxygen from the pulmonary alveoli to the blood and of carbon dioxide from the blood to the alveoli, followed by the transport of oxygen to and carbon dioxide from the body cells."

source: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/tissue+respiration

MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

Ok, so what does that have to do with today, and why does it matter? 5G. What is 5G?

Millimeter wave technology being rolled out across the world.

OK, where is 5G?

In US: Coming to a city near you...or already there. Here;s T-Mobile's map: https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/5g-coverage-map

In Wuhan, China: https://5g-emf.com/wuhan-was-the-province-where-5g-was-rolled-out-now-the-center-of-deadly-virus/

What did we all see videos of poor Wuhan chinese people collapsing on the streets of? Hypoxia (Issues Breathing)

"Hypoxia is a condition in which the body or a region of the body is deprived of adequate oxygen supply at the tissue level."

MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism; and I saw many videos of people collapsing, unable to breathe, in Wuhan, China where there are 10,000+ 5G towers currently.

Also it is well documented that the amount of pollution in Wuhan is horrific, thus adding into the mix here that the people's cells were already heavily damaged from the pollution...

Next time, we look at:
- Electroportation (a microbiology technique in which an electrical field is applied to cells in order to increase the permeability of the cell membrane, allowing chemicals, drugs, or DNA to be introduced into the cell)
- Corona-virus (a corona discharge is an electrical discharge brought on by the ionization of a fluid such as air)
- Virus Exosomes
- Vaccines

Who's doing this: it's obivous...
Why: obvious...

Conclusion: this could explain the weird and non-standard responses people are having to the supposed 'virus' in different locations.

Idea: we should all pull together and make a google sheet on REAL people we know who have gotten pnemonia-like illness over the past 3 months, and for them to honestly list their comorbities, and have them search the publicly available 5G maps to connect their health history with 5G potential interference...

UPDATE:

Also, some have said this doesnt make sense since there's no 5G in Iran, but this article would say otherwise: https://financialtribune.com/articles/sci-tech/72829/irancell-ericsson-test-5g-systems

5G in Italy: https://www.gsmarena.com/italy_becomes_the_third_european_country_with_5g-news-37424.php

5G already blanketing the US as well, search it and see Tmobile, Verizon and others coverage maps...Phoenix was kind enough to ask me (very politely! :P ) if I'd respond to this specific post.

I've posted about this quite a few times, but the problem we're all now having is that some posts are very easily missed or overlooked. I do understand that.

In summary:


Yes, all Wi-Fi is detrimental to health, and 5G absolutely in particular. I don't think any member here would take issue with that.
(Certainly not myself! I have to have Wi-Fi in my house — the only way I can get the signal, via a relay pole — but I do NOT have it in my bedroom. There's no signal there. No Wi-Fi when sleeping can make a huge amount of difference to overall health. Fortunately, when 5G eventually reaches Ecuador, if it does, it's really unlikely to get anywhere near the very remote sheltered rural valley where I live.)



The novel coronavirus doesn't just attack older people. The key factor is that it exploits anyone at all whose health is compromised or weakened. In some cases, that can include many younger people as well. Age isn't the thing here. Many younger people will unfortunately succumb as well, and we're already seeing this.



So 5G will be a factor that enables the virus (any virus!) to take hold. So will air pollution, smoking, any kind of drug use (pharmaceutical or recreational), heavy metal toxicity, poor water quality, poor diet, an acidic body, high blood pressure (recent research indicates this is a major factor), diabetes, heart or kidney disease, and any chronic inflammatory condition. But these are only exacerbating factors. Not the cause of the pandemic. The coronavirus is a real thing, that's opportunistic — as all viruses are.



Always remember: you can't catch 5G symptoms from another person. Infected people who fly into a country with no 5G (like Ecuador) don't suddenly get better. That's how come Ecuador now has 2,300 cases.

[Iloveyou]

There are countries that officially don‘t have 5G, but still have problems with Corona virus. If you go to the internet to check who has 5G, then you look for the civil technology. What about the military application. Has it been announced yet where it is applied or not!

Kautz-Vella talks about that at 00:10:30 (to 00:12::30)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQnPm59JiTA

[TargeT]

Echo chambers are dull!





Yes, all Wi-Fi is detrimental to health, and 5G absolutely in particular. I don't think any member here would take issue with that.
(Certainly not myself! I have to have Wi-Fi in my house — the only way I can get the signal, via a relay pole — but I do NOT have it in my bedroom. There's no signal there. No Wi-Fi when sleeping can make a huge amount of difference to overall health. Fortunately, when 5G eventually reaches Ecuador, if it does, it's really unlikely to get anywhere near the very remote sheltered rural valley where I live.)


Well, as a 22 year IT professional I would disagree that all wifi is detrimental to health; that is a dismissive categorization that ignores the complexities of the topic (and, in general; is not accurate at all, otherwise we would have an epidemic level problem in the western countries. (5G is even LESS penetrating as it is at 5,000 Hz vs 2,400 Hz or so we are currently at)).





The novel coronavirus doesn't just attack older people. The key factor is that it exploits anyone at all whose health is compromised or weakened. In some cases, that can include many younger people as well. Age isn't the thing here. Many younger people will unfortunately succumb as well, and we're already seeing this.


It certainly doesn't seem to effect children at anywhere near the same level as it does adults, or especially the elderly.

If you're 40 or below and in good health, the statistics say you'll be fine. it's the 70+ and those with pre - existing conditions that need to be socially distancing themselves.




So 5G will be a factor that enables the virus (any virus!) to take hold. So will air pollution, smoking, any kind of drug use (pharmaceutical or recreational), heavy metal toxicity, poor water quality, poor diet, an acidic body, high blood pressure (recent research indicates this is a major factor), diabetes, heart or kidney disease, and any chronic inflammatory condition. But these are only exacerbating factors. Not the cause of the pandemic. The coronavirus is a real thing, that's opportunistic — as all viruses are.


I'm pre hypertensive (pre -high blood pressure) and the virus hit me HARD, my SO is not and she slid through with not as intense symptoms as I did. Stressors of any type do interesting things, when chronic (long term) they tend to ware a person's resiliency down, when acute (brief) they seem to greatly help a person grow stronger and better.

Moderation in everything! (even WiFi!)




Always remember: you can't catch 5G symptoms from another person. Infected people who fly into a country with no 5G (like Ecuador) don't suddenly get better. That's how come Ecuador now has 2,300 cases.


And this is why I tossed my response in, the echo chamber can convince itself so much that when someone else steps into it it freaks them the hell out!

5g is POTENTIALLY another chronic stressors (if you live in a city) most people who do not live in cities will not even really be exposed that often to it (due to it's extremely short range).

We are bombarded daily with cosmic radiation, solar radiation, heat (another form of radiation). WIFI is very weak compared to those and 5G will be even "weaker" as far as dermal penetration is concerned.

Don't let this forum be a higher stress source than 5g!(your brain is THAT powerful)

Grains of salt for all!


There are countries that officially don‘t have 5G, but still have problems with Corona virus. If you go to the internet to check who has 5G, then you look for the civil technology. What about the military application. Has it been announced yet where it is applied or not!


ZERO 5G on the island I live on, we have 30 confirmed cases currently and the national guard is being activated today to provide tests, treatment and new arrival screening.


Fear is infections, actions speak loudly...

This Orangutan started obsessively washing it's hands (https://i.imgur.com/2k9Wny9.gifv) after observing it's handlers do so due to the CORVID-19 fear porn...


Think the same doesn't happen with humans? Fear is a CROSS SPECIES disease!

[onawah]

Bumping this very intelligent post :bump:
Also, I think we need to pay more attention to satellites which are beaming all kinds of inescapable (unless perhaps you live in a cave) frequencies at everyone, and there are more of them all the time.

Hi Guys, here is some research that I personally did myself today. I am trained as a Chemical Engineer from a university that was ranked in the top 5 in the USA for this specification at the time, so, I'm not stupid.

Here's some critical thinking. I am not saying I KNOW all of this 100%, but here is some investigative research:

In 2012, the CIA declassified this scientific study that occured in 1977:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mX1fSrTzvWIxJBOC0Q8POLD0XhBQSpDv/view

Summary:

“Morphological, functional, and biochemical studies conducted in humans and animals revealed that millimeter waves caused changes in the body manifested in the structural alterations in the skin and internal organs, qualitative and quantitative changes of the blood and bone marrow composition and changes of the conditioned reflex activity, tissue respiration, activity of enzymes participating in the process of tissue respiration and nucleic metabolism.
The degree of unfavorable effect of millimeter waves depended on the duration of the radiation and individual characteristics of the organism.”

N.P. Zalyubovskaya, 1977

MY Takeaway: Seems like millimeter waves are dangerous depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

What exactly is Tissue Respiration?

"The exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide between the atmosphere and the body cells, including inhalation and exhalation, diffusion of oxygen from the pulmonary alveoli to the blood and of carbon dioxide from the blood to the alveoli, followed by the transport of oxygen to and carbon dioxide from the body cells."

source: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/tissue+respiration

MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism.

Ok, so what does that have to do with today, and why does it matter? 5G. What is 5G?

Millimeter wave technology being rolled out across the world.

OK, where is 5G?

In US: Coming to a city near you...or already there. Here;s T-Mobile's map: https://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/5g-coverage-map

In Wuhan, China: https://5g-emf.com/wuhan-was-the-province-where-5g-was-rolled-out-now-the-center-of-deadly-virus/

What did we all see videos of poor Wuhan chinese people collapsing on the streets of? Hypoxia (Issues Breathing)

"Hypoxia is a condition in which the body or a region of the body is deprived of adequate oxygen supply at the tissue level."

MY Takeaway: OK, so millimeter waves are dangerous to basic breathing depending on the duration of the radiation and characteristics of the organism; and I saw many videos of people collapsing, unable to breathe, in Wuhan, China where there are 10,000+ 5G towers currently.

Also it is well documented that the amount of pollution in Wuhan is horrific, thus adding into the mix here that the people's cells were already heavily damaged from the pollution...

Next time, we look at:
- Electroportation (a microbiology technique in which an electrical field is applied to cells in order to increase the permeability of the cell membrane, allowing chemicals, drugs, or DNA to be introduced into the cell)
- Corona-virus (a corona discharge is an electrical discharge brought on by the ionization of a fluid such as air)
- Virus Exosomes
- Vaccines

Who's doing this: it's obivous...
Why: obvious...

Conclusion: this could explain the weird and non-standard responses people are having to the supposed 'virus' in different locations.

Idea: we should all pull together and make a google sheet on REAL people we know who have gotten pnemonia-like illness over the past 3 months, and for them to honestly list their comorbities, and have them search the publicly available 5G maps to connect their health history with 5G potential interference...

UPDATE:

Also, some have said this doesnt make sense since there's no 5G in Iran, but this article would say otherwise: https://financialtribune.com/articles/sci-tech/72829/irancell-ericsson-test-5g-systems

5G in Italy: https://www.gsmarena.com/italy_becomes_the_third_european_country_with_5g-news-37424.php

5G already blanketing the US as well, search it and see Tmobile, Verizon and others coverage maps...

[Tomkoyote]

A video I got yesterday.
If you can register, watch it, you'll learn a few important details; if you can't register, don't waste your time, watch TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1700&v=E1wIsMi8ryw&feature=emb_logo

[Caliban]

Thank goodness for those a bit "OFF" ;)


12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/

[Bill Ryan]

Thank goodness for those a bit "OFF" ;)

12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/Thanks — I appreciated reading those. The most noteworthy comment may have been from Michael Osterholm, who said (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/facing-covid-19-reality-national-lockdown-is-no-cure/):
The best alternative will probably entail letting those at low risk for serious disease continue to work, keep business and manufacturing operating, and “run” society, while at the same time advising higher-risk individuals to protect themselves through physical distancing and ramping up our health-care capacity as aggressively as possible. With this battle plan, we could gradually build up immunity without destroying the financial structure on which our lives are based.
Osterholm was interviewed by Joe Rogan, here, on 10 March:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

[Tomkoyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=5pIMD1enwd4&feature=emb_logo

[Arcturian108]

Very Important audio just received from two different continents:

http://projectavalon.net/AUD-20200330-WA0004.mp3

[AutumnW]

Wow. Drawing such a lovely reaction, he really must have stirred up a hornet‘s nest somewhere. Btw, his name is spelled Rappoport, not Rappaport. Respect starts with getting someone‘s name right.--I love you

I don't respect him. He is another Corey Guud, Emree Smythe, David Willkok.

[AutumnW]

Thank goodness for those a bit "OFF" ;)

12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/Thanks — I appreciated reading those. The most noteworthy comment may have been from Michael Osterholm, who said (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/facing-covid-19-reality-national-lockdown-is-no-cure/):
The best alternative will probably entail letting those at low risk for serious disease continue to work, keep business and manufacturing operating, and “run” society, while at the same time advising higher-risk individuals to protect themselves through physical distancing and ramping up our health-care capacity as aggressively as possible. With this battle plan, we could gradually build up immunity without destroying the financial structure on which our lives are based.
Osterholm was interviewed by Joe Rogan, here, on 10 March:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

It makes sense to do this once hospitals are up to speed, the curve is flattened a bit. It's clear common sense. Everything can't grind to a halt indefinitely. It's not the bubonic plague!

[Philippe]

Well, as a 22 year IT professional I would disagree that all wifi is detrimental to health; that is a dismissive categorization that ignores the complexities of the topic (and, in general; is not accurate at all, otherwise we would have an epidemic level problem in the western countries. (5G is even LESS penetrating as it is at 5,000 Hz vs 2,400 Hz or so we are currently at)).



That is way off as an argument that 5G is not dangerous ( and I have a problem with all IT professionals who are in their tunnel vision) . Who knows at what level they have turned up the 5G in Wuhan and elsewhere ? We have read what happens at 60 GHz. These techno-fanatics are capable to turn up the volume to make their tools work as fast as possible. We are allowed to have strong suspicions about them and their ambitions.
The coincidence of turning on the 5G switch in industrialized locations and the worldwide outbreak of a flew that has extreme violent and unseen charateristics is frightening. And yes 5G is also in Iran. The argument that "symptoms of 5G are not transmissible" is not to the point. The flue that was triggered is transmissible and can be carried elsewhere.
It is high time to take a step back from the conspiracy hunting and support all and everybody in our communities to come outside and get this halted. If not do not be surprised that the outbreaks will continue to ravage everywhere.

Arcturian108's post : The audio tape and admission of a former Vodafone manager is impressive .
Very Important audio just received from two different continents:

http://projectavalon.net/AUD-20200330-WA0004.mp3

[T Smith]

Truth be told, I figure this may be a military bioweapon from Fort Detrick targeting China and the U.S. is experiencing blowback. This is pure 'maybe,' in my mind.

Highly doubtful the U.S. military would target China with this type of bioweapon, knowing full well it would encapsulate the entire globe (which is the very strength of this particular virus, if indeed it's a bioweapon).

That's not to suggest this isn't a bioweapon. But in my mind (also a pure maybe) this wouldn't be a game between nation-states, all of which have been targeted for complete and utter collapse.

[Satori]

How many of you have noticed that you are hedging your bets? The common theme on the Covid19 posts is: “It’s on the one hand this, but on the other hand that.” It’s this, but maybe it’s that”. “I think this, but that is not to say it’s not that.”

Take a stand. What do you really believe? Now is not the time to be PC.

[Ratszinger]

There is a major threat out there. It may or may not be this virus. It could very easily be that a big breaking news event of an arrest, or several arrests pending announcement at any time will shock the living daylights out of the world. Perhaps it could be bad enough to cause mass eruption into the streets, unless there is another major reason preventing them from doing this. And of course we can't forget the nature of the psychos we are dealing with here, capable of bringing down the rest of the world with them rather than face their crimes perhaps they'd activate all manner of false flag events in response so if people were out in those malls, on those streets and sidewalks, well, you get the idea. Maybe the reason for staying home is very valid but not quite what everyone thinks.

Also, and to get my two cents in on Charles and Boris and their diagnosis. If the virus is real they are probably scared crapless and they probably want to bunker down somewhere safe so because they can't just high tail it and run they say they have the virus first and then duck for cover under the plausible deniability of doing you a service telling you it's for safety reasons. They still get to run off and hide but save face this way without their 'puss' showing!

[Phoenix]

isnt it suuuuuper suspect that harvey pervstein, prince harry, maybe even the queen, and tom hanks 'got' it?

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also i saw an HIV/AIDS researcher in south africa is dead from 'it' ....

[DaveToo]

How many of you have noticed that you are hedging your bets? The common theme on the Covid19 posts is: “It’s on the one hand this, but on the other hand that.” It’s this, but maybe it’s that”. “I think this, but that is not to say it’s not that.”

Take a stand. What do you really believe? Now is not the time to be PC.

Good for you Sartori for pointing out the obvious. :)
I admit I had been sitting on the fence for quite a while, being noncommittal one way or the other.

But after watching Dr. Andrew Kaufman yesterday and especially today (in another video) I am ready to take my stand.
He has convinced me that COVID-19 = EXOSOMES

That will probably be meaningless to most here.

Until you watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGd7-vvd9Y

Please take the time to watch all of it. This MD makes a very convincing case!
It helps explain a lot of what we have been seeing the past few months.

[Delight]

Very Important audio just received from two different continents:

http://projectavalon.net/AUD-20200330-WA0004.mp3

Who is speaking please?

[Caliban]

How many of you have noticed that you are hedging your bets? The common theme on the Covid19 posts is: “It’s on the one hand this, but on the other hand that.” It’s this, but maybe it’s that”. “I think this, but that is not to say it’s not that.”

Take a stand. What do you really believe? Now is not the time to be PC.

Good for you Sartori for pointing out the obvious. :)
I admit I had been sitting on the fence for quite a while, being noncommittal one way or the other.

But after watching Dr. Andrew Kaufman yesterday and especially today (in another video) I am ready to take my stand.
He has convinced me that COVID-19 = EXOSOMES

That will probably be meaningless to most here.

Until you watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGd7-vvd9Y

Please take the time to watch all of it. This MD makes a very convincing case!
It helps explain a lot of what we have been seeing the past few months.


I urge you all to watch the video Dave linked above, by Dr. Andrew Kaufman. He's basically saying that what we're seeing with the CV is an endogenous phenomenon and what they are calling a "virus" is actually Exosomes, a type of extracellular vesicle that serve as a Cleansing Agent to rid the body of toxic materials.

Now, the video I'm posting below was made by a guy who's been educating many of us in the comment section of Rappoport's recent articles, on the true nature of what viruses are. He calls them Viruses but he's essentially saying what Andrew Kaufman is saying: Viruses are the body's way of dealing with and neutralizing toxins, which are created by poisons, stresses, horrible air pollution of all kinds, etc. In other words, they don't "come from outside" and can't be "caught" from your lover/neighbor/baker.

These videos turn everything -- no, NOT on its head -- I should say back right side up. It's very freeing.


MtWYQS3LFlE

[waves]

How many of you have noticed that you are hedging your bets? The common theme on the Covid19 posts is: “It’s on the one hand this, but on the other hand that.” It’s this, but maybe it’s that”. “I think this, but that is not to say it’s not that.”

Take a stand. What do you really believe? Now is not the time to be PC.

Good for you Sartori for pointing out the obvious. :)
I admit I had been sitting on the fence for quite a while, being noncommittal one way or the other.

But after watching Dr. Andrew Kaufman yesterday and especially today (in another video) I am ready to take my stand.
He has convinced me that COVID-19 = EXOSOMES

That will probably be meaningless to most here.

Until you watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGd7-vvd9Y

Please take the time to watch all of it. This MD makes a very convincing case!
It helps explain a lot of what we have been seeing the past few months.

You'll find my post last night of the audio of that Dr. Kaufman talk which was all I had, but I also recognized that it and his other recent one were the most important finds yet, thank you for this, the visuals really help.

Sorry to say that I expect hardly no one else here at Avalon or the truth community will take the time to watch and understand, let alone incorporate Dr. Kaufman's breakthrough explanation into their thinking at all and these threads will continue being virtual parties to this genocide by being obedient repeater reporters of the murderers/liars totally false statistics and fear porn.

My record here will show I was committed from day one. I saw all the red flags of a psyop immediately and even have a receipt for an 80 roll case of TP mid February way before shelves emptied and prices shot up...:-).

Thank you Dave Too for taking your stand. I'm with you 100%.



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[greybeard]

Thank goodness for those a bit "OFF" ;)


12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/

10 MORE Experts Criticising the Coronavirus Panic
https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/
We are afraid that 1 million infections with the new virus will lead to 30 deaths per day over the next 100 days. But we do not realise that 20, 30, 40 or 100 patients positive for normal coronaviruses are already dying every day.

[The government’s anti-COVID19 measures] are grotesque, absurd and very dangerous […] The life expectancy of millions is being shortened. The horrifying impact on the world economy threatens the existence of countless people. The consequences on medical care are profound. Already services to patients in need are reduced, operations cancelled, practices empty, hospital personnel dwindling. All this will impact profoundly on our whole society.

All these measures are leading to self-destruction and collective suicide based on nothing but a spook.

"Ive been saying this since day one
Chris"

[Iloveyou]

Adding to the collection (and probably beating a dead horse):

The Infectious Myth - David Rasnick on the Coronavirus (2020-03-31)

podcast: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-pdny6-d7c5c7?utm_campaign=u_share_ep&utm_medium=dlink&utm_source=u_share

David Rasnick and David Crowe (who have to call themselves ‘Raz’ and ‘Crowe’ to avoid confusion) discuss the coronavirus, particularly the RT-PCR testing. Raz is a PhD in chemistry who worked on protease inhibitors (being used in coronavirus, although the Chinese trial was an admitted failure). The test is really important because without it there wouldn’t be any Covid-19 cases, so they spend a lot of time discussing it. They also discuss confusion with other diseases, reasons not to shut down the economy, probable exaggeration of the mortality rate, dangerous treatments, the politics, and more.


The Infectious Myth - Coronavirus with James Lyons-Weiler

podcast: https://infectiousmyth.podbean.com/e/the-infectious-myth-coronavirus-with-james-lyons-weiler/

David discusses the coronavirus epidemic with James Lyons-Weiler. While our guest believes that there is a deadly infectious virus, David does not. At the end, the issue of whether there is a new virus circulating, and whether it has ever been purified, is unresolved.


more: https://davidcrowe.ca/SciHealthEnv.php

[Iloveyou]

The Coronavirus mass panic is not justified

By Professor Peter C. Gøtzsche (24 March 2020)

https://www.deadlymedicines.dk/wp-content/uploads/Gøtzsche-The-Coronavirus-mass-panic-is-not-justified.pdf

Who is Prof. Peter C Gøtzsche?

Physician, medical researcher, author of numerous books, and co-founder of the famous Cochrane Collaboration, an organization formed in 1993 to conduct systematic reviews of medical research in the interest of promoting unbiased evidence-based science and improving health care.

During his tenure with Cochrane, Gøtzsche fought to uphold Cochrane’s original values of transparency, scientific rigor, free scientific debate, and collaboration. However, in spite of its charter, when Gøtzsche attempted to correct the path of consensus science or point to industry-related bias, Cochrane sought to censor him. He was eventually expelled from the organization in 2018 after what he calls a Kafkaesque “show trial.”

Death of a Whistleblower and Cochrane's Moral Collapse
(death not meant literally)

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[Ratszinger]

On the cruise ship where all the people on that ship were confined and all had every potential to come down with this virus at any time yet the contagion never reached or grew beyond 20% of the entire pop. of that cruise ship! Make note 80% of those on the ship were naturally immune! They had either no symptoms or when asked had to think and come up with well maybes at best. If we are to believe the numbers provided, the death rate never rose above 2.3% about where it is hovering world wide at this time at 4.995% death rate world wide.

The USA is doing much better hovering at 2.2% death rate. The cruise is ship is a corroborated historic event in Wuhan and the numbers seem to be about the same there as best people can gather. They don't trust the numbers coming from China now but China did not interfere in the data off that cruise ship and that data was listed publicly before any talk of covering up the actual numbers. I trust it to be the case country wide. It is more than likely gong to play out in the states the same way it did with the ship so if 20% get infected approx. 2% or so will likely die from it.. 300,000,000 people x .0225% death rate equals 293,250 people plus or minus dying from this in the USA. So how do we figure this? 300,000,000 people in the USA and they are saying perhaps as many as millions will die. I don't know where they are getting this wild data from to suggest this. Using the current data available this is what I see.

I point out also the pic uploaded.

926,095 cases and 46,252 deaths equal a 4.995 death rate % world wide. As of this writing in the USA there are now 209 071 cases and 4633 deaths equaling a 2.23% death rate.

[leavesoftrees]

All these measures are leading to self-destruction and collective suicide based on nothing but a spook.

"Ive been saying this since day one
Chris"

I am not a fan at all of Osho but I thought this was relevant to what is happening now

Osho on Pandemic's


Once someone asked Osho about the pandemic, read the answer...
The question was: How to avoid epidemic?
Osho: "You are asking the wrong question. The question should have been like this: "Say something about the fear of dying in my heart because of the epidemic?"
How to save yourself from this fear?
Because it is very easy to avoid virus, but it is very difficult to avoid the fear that is present within you and in the world.
People will die more because of this fear than because of the epidemic.
There no virus in this world is more dangerous than fear. Understand this fear,
otherwise you will become an alive dead body before your body will die.
It has nothing to do with the virus. The frightening atmosphere you are watching right now is a collective madness, which is always decreasing after some time. The reasons keep changing, but this kind of collective madness keeps on being revealed from time to time.
Many people either get help or they die. It has been a thousand times before, and it will continue to happen. And will continue unless you will understand the psychology of the crowd and fear.
Stop enjoying the juiciness of fear. Usually every human being enjoys fear a little bit. If they don't have fun in fear, then why would they go to watch movies?
Understand this juiciness within you; without understanding it you cannot understand the psychology of fear.
Look at the juice of this fear and at the fear within you, because if we take in the juiciness of fear, it is not much possible to wake up our unconsciousness.
Normally you are the owner of your fear,
But in the moment of collective madness your ownership can be touched. Your unconsciousness can take it over completely. You won't even know when you have lost control over your fear and fear others.
Then fear can do anything to you, in such a situation you can also take the life of yourself or that of others.
It will happen so much in the coming time: many people will commit suicide and many people will kill others.
Stay alert. Do not look at any video or news that gives you fear within. Stop talking about the epidemic - repeating the same thing again and again is the birth of self-hypnosis. Fear is a kind of self-hypnosis. This idea will cause chemical changes in the body. By repeating the same idea again and again, this chemical change can sometimes be so poisonous that it can also take your life.
There are a lot of other things happening in the world, pay attention to them.
Meditation becomes a protective aura all around the seeker, which does not allow negative energy to enter within. Now the energy of the whole world has become irrational. In such a way you can fall any time in this black hole.
Sitting in the boat of meditation you can avoid this .
(...) As long as death doesn't come there is no meaning of fearing what is inevitable. Fear is a kind of foolishness and proof of the fact that life has been lived in the wrong way. Those who offer their today for tomorrow, are afraid of death.
Death is not a problem for those who live their life totally each moment.
Rethink life. Fear will not solve anything and there is no cure for death.
If you don't die from a pandemic, then you will have to die another day, and that day can be any day. That's why: keep ready. Don't take down your life."

[T Smith]

Sorry to say that I expect hardly no one else here at Avalon or the truth community will take the time to watch and understand, let alone incorporate Dr. Kaufman's breakthrough explanation into their thinking at all and these threads will continue being virtual parties to this genocide by being obedient repeater reporters of the murderers/liars totally false statistics and fear porn.

My record here will show I was committed from day one. I saw all the red flags of a psyop immediately and even have a receipt for an 80 roll case of TP mid February way before shelves emptied and prices shot up...:-).

Dr. Kaufman's thesis has actually been circulating in the main CoVid-19 thread, see this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvqNc4m5oOI), and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji_3uxlP-_I), and many of us have commented on both these videos. See my comment here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-Covid-19-the-Honey-Badger-virus&p=1346562&viewfull=1#post1346562). So although I feel your frustration, it's not entirely accurate that members of Avalon are ignoring the info. According to Thomas Cowen, MD, the theory is based on the work of Rudolph Stiener (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner), who ironically spent much of his life's work attempting to bridge science and spirituality (so Avalon is perhaps the perfect platform to explore his germ theory :) )

That said, many in the truth community do seem to be in denial about and have no answer to the flawed RT-PCR testing, which in my view may be scientifically useful in certain applications, but a complete scam as the foundation of determining a global pandemic.

Let's consider. The faulty statistics produced by these tests have dictated by technocrats and authorities the execution of an entire global shutdown and the inevitable onset of spontaneous collapse of nation-states and onset of centralized authoritarian global governance (which is playing out before our eyes per the October 2019 Gates Foundation Event 201 think tank dress rehersal). The RT-PCR testing is literally elevating the severity of the crisis and is creating the entire pandemic.

Commentators and observers will counter, "so what if the testing is flawed! People are still dying! We have to do this! Hospitals are being overrun and the NHS is collapsing! This isn't a normal disease! Damn the hypothetical faulty testing, we can prove we have a pandemic empirically based on body bags!" Or something to this effect, and of course I am vastly over-simplifying those arguments. Herein we get caught up in the minutia of crisis, whether real or promulgated (and likely somewhere in-between). Regardless, focusing on that continuum is irrelevant to the broader issue.

My point has been, or has tried to be, the faulty testing (which I believe those executing the psyop are fully aware of, and which is being deployed as the main component of psyop), and which consequently inflates the projection of body bags, among other things, is dictating and influencing how we manage the entire crisis, allowing for a global reset. This merits repeating, without euphemisms. The foundation of pandemic created by RT-PCR is literally triggering the collapse of human civilization as we know it. This may not happen overnight, but once we allow for the installation of global technocratic dictatorship, it's only a matter of time before the final goal plays out. We all understand the playbook.

If we do not check what is unfolding in real time, the reset we are talking about will hurl those of us who survive (my guess is the masterminds behind this psyop are shooting for 500 million or so) fully back to the Dark Ages. If we're lucky we'll enter into a neo-feudalism period (perhaps retaining some of our technology and advances) but subject nonetheless to endure another thousand-year period without a bath. This seems to be a repeating cycle the controllers understand a hell of lot more than we pests do.

I'm on record stating the global reset will be much more devastating to human civilization and will require the production of 10000x more body bags than very worst COVID-19 might require, but I shall be very pleased to be wrong on that point.

[Mypos]

If you would go by the theorie of Steiner that a virus is just a cleansing of the cell and they are not contagious im wondering how to explain the flu amongst little children. It seems they do contaminate each other. And little kids cannot have much toxicity in there cells yet. Can anybody think of something to explain this?

[waves]

Sorry to say that I expect hardly no one else here at Avalon or the truth community will take the time to watch and understand, let alone incorporate Dr. Kaufman's breakthrough explanation into their thinking at all and these threads will continue being virtual parties to this genocide by being obedient repeater reporters of the murderers/liars totally false statistics and fear porn.

My record here will show I was committed from day one. I saw all the red flags of a psyop immediately and even have a receipt for an 80 roll case of TP mid February way before shelves emptied and prices shot up...:-).

Dr. Kaufman's thesis has actually been circulating in the main CoVid-19 thread, see this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvqNc4m5oOI), and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji_3uxlP-_I), and many of us have commented on both these videos. See my comment here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-Covid-19-the-Honey-Badger-virus&p=1346562&viewfull=1#post1346562). So although I feel your frustration, it's not entirely accurate that members of Avalon are ignoring the info. According to Thomas Cowen, MD, the theory is based on the work of Rudolph Stiener (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner), who ironically spent much of his life's work attempting to bridge science and spirituality (so Avalon is perhaps the perfect platform to explore his germ theory :) )

That said, many in the truth community do seem to be in denial about and have no answer to the flawed RT-PCR testing, which in my view may be scientifically useful in certain applications, but a complete scam as the foundation of determining a global pandemic.

Let's consider. The faulty statistics produced by these tests have dictated by technocrats and authorities the execution of an entire global shutdown and the inevitable onset of spontaneous collapse of nation-states and onset of centralized authoritarian global governance (which is playing out before our eyes per the October 2019 Gates Foundation Event 201 think tank dress rehersal). The RT-PCR testing is literally elevating the severity of the crisis and is creating the entire pandemic.

Commenters and observers will counter, "so what if the testing is flawed! People are still dying! We have to do this! Hospitals are being overrun and the NHS is collapsing! This isn't a normal disease! Damn the hypothetical faulty testing, we can prove we have a pandemic empirically based on body bags!" Or something to this effect, and of course I am vastly over-simplifying those arguments. Herein we get caught up in the minutia of crisis, whether real or promulgated (and likely somewhere in-between). Regardless, focusing on that continuum is irrelevant to the broader issue.

My point has been, or has tried to be, the faulty testing (which I believe those executing the psyop are fully aware of, and which is being deployed as the main component of psyop), and which consequently inflates the projection of body bags, among other things, is dictating and influencing how we manage the entire crisis, allowing for a global reset. This merits repeating, without euphemisms. The foundation of pandemic created by RT-PCR is literally triggering the collapse of human civilization as we know it. This may not happen overnight, but once we allow for the installation of global technocratic dictatorship, it's only a matter of time before the final goal plays out. We all understand the playbook.

If we do not check what is unfolding in real time, the reset we are talking about will hurl those of us who survive (my guess is the masterminds behind this psyop are shooting for 500 million or so) fully back to the Dark Ages. If we're lucky we'll enter into a neo-feudalism period (perhaps retaining some of our technology and advances) but subject nonetheless to endure another thousand-year period without a bath. This seems to be a repeating cycle the controllers understand a hell of lot more than we pests do.

I'm on record stating the global reset will be much more devastating to human civilization and will require the production of 10000x more body bags than very worst COVID-19 might require, but I shall be very pleased to be wrong on that point.


(least important but I want to explain why I deliberately chose the phrase 'hardly no one else here' over 'everyone else here' - to not exaggerate or falsely accuse. But I stand by the fact that of even just people contributing... and will continue.... a hugely lopsided percentage will ignore the false PCR test/exosome facts and continue to be part of the problem therefore helping the genocidal agenda, not helping expose it's foundational flaw, the only chance of defeating it.)
~~~~~~~~~~~

Your post says it all - and is the most important simple summation of this worldwide fraud affecting all of humanity. THANK YOU.

Borrowing some of your wording, every other post on every CV-19 thread should have the interjection:


THE DELIBERATELY FRAUDULENT PCR TEST IS BEING USED TO TRIGGER PEOPLE TO SELF-DESTRUCT THEIR LIVES AND INCOMES AND COLLAPSE MODERN CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT.

IF YOU WANT TO HELP, YOUR ONLY JOB IS TO SPREAD KNOWLEDGE OF WHY THE PCR TEST IS FRAUDULENT AND THEREFORE WHY ALL STATISTICS ARE FALSE, BUT ADDITIONALLY, WHAT THE NATURE OF EXOSOMES IS IN RELATION TO ENVIRONMENTAL TOXINS AND VACCINES.



https://i.postimg.cc/KvTBKNr3/avalon-signature.jpg

[greybeard]

Trying to be simple
You have more chance of dying from something other than the virus this month according to the video below.
It might be a bit long but the "facts" are well presented.
The statistics are the same as used by professional advising the Government.
WHO may not be believed but the point is thats what has been projected to scare people.

The video looks in depth at the official data and projects a different story from the UK fear mongering.

I have watched the whole video in segments and I believe it to be true
Basically the virus follows curves exactly the same as a seasonal virus.
No more dangerous than last years "flu" ---call it what you will.
The immune system will take care of it -- though obviously some have better immunity than others.

I now have tooth ache and my dentists are closed down.
Im more bothered about this than any virus --- the pain not severe but the dentist closed till end of May to protect staff and clients.
Im collateral damage, smiling -- I will be just fine.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXzGB170GI&feature=youtu.be

[Philippe]

I point out also the pic uploaded ( in your post above ).

926,095 cases and 46,252 deaths equal a 4.995 death rate % world wide. As of this writing in the USA there are now 209 071 cases and 4633 deaths equaling a 2.23% death rate.


This picture you use is sensationalist (although I understand the message it carries of so much other causes of deaths) . It refers to a https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ to get credit. Manipulatif.

Coronavirus in Russia: The Latest News | April 2

I just looked at at www.themoscowtimes.com where a spike of 771 cases is reported. The deathtoll stands incredibly low at 30. Could be false statistics but with so many Russian internauts it would be difficult to hide a more serious situation. To be followed with great attention. Russia has shielded itself from the internet giants and western spy agencies, and as far as I know has no 5G rolled out yet for the general population ?

EDIT: The new severe measures by Pres.Putin seem to contradict the reported low figures of the disease in Russia

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/04/02/russia-economy-coronavirus-analysts-fear-economic-impact-russias-april-coronavirus-shutdown-catastrophic-a69851

[waves]

If you would go by the theorie of Steiner that a virus is just a cleansing of the cell and they are not contagious im wondering how to explain the flu amongst little children. It seems they do contaminate each other. And little kids cannot have much toxicity in there cells yet. Can anybody think of something to explain this?

I'm learning it may have to do with the difference between bacteria and virus. I was surprised to learn that even traditional medicine all along admits many different particles they lump into the category of virus are inert/not living things that DO NOT EXIST OUTSIDE THE BODY.

The danger of VACCINES includes the introduction of toxics and inert OR live biological matter into the body in totally unnatural ways and the truth community is now learning about why those particles triggers cells to produce exosomes, over stimulate immune systems and produce flu symptoms, brain damage from ischemia, etc. Watching the Dr. Kaufman and Dr. Cowan videos explain this much better than me.

[Longjohn]

From The Spectator magazine:

How deadly is the coronavirus? It’s still far from clear

This was written by a a recently-retired Professor of Pathology and United Kingdom NHS consultant pathologist. This sums it all up. Irrespective of the media panic, these are the facts we should be taking seriously:

"How deadly is the coronavirus? It’s still far from clear" (https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think)

43012

I quote some of the most important points:

"When Britain had 590 diagnosed cases, Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser, suggested that the real figure was probably between 5,000 and 10,000 cases, ten to 20 times higher. If he’s right, the headline death rate due to this virus is likely to be ten to 20 times lower, say 0.25 per cent to 0.5 per cent. That puts the Covid-19 mortality rate in the range associated with infections like flu.

"One pretty clear indicator is death. If a new infection is causing many extra people to die (as opposed to an infection present in people who would have died anyway) then it will cause an increase in the overall death rate. But we have yet to see any statistical evidence for excess deaths, in any part of the world.

[Note from me: I looked at the WHO mortality rates a week ago and it confirms this last point!]

"Much of the response to Covid-19 seems explained by the fact that we are watching this virus in a way that no virus has been watched before. The scenes from the Italian hospitals have been shocking, and make for grim television. But television is not science.

"Governments everywhere say they are responding to the science. The policies in the UK are not the government’s fault. They are trying to act responsibly based on the scientific advice given. But governments must remember that rushed science is almost always bad science.

"We have decided on policies of extraordinary magnitude without concrete evidence of excess harm already occurring, and without proper scrutiny of the science used to justify them."

Best, John

[T Smith]

If you would go by the theorie of Steiner that a virus is just a cleansing of the cell and they are not contagious im wondering how to explain the flu amongst little children. It seems they do contaminate each other. And little kids cannot have much toxicity in there cells yet. Can anybody think of something to explain this?

I think Steiner may be on to something, but the idea of the virus being non-transmittable from person to person is probably inaccurate... Cowen describes the "excretions", or exosomes, as coded RNA and speculates that the coding could be transferred (contagious) from person to person. The message of the exosomes, when in contact with suceptible and permissible cells of another host, then coveys to those healthy cells that it's time to clean themselves out, so speak.

This is an explanation to the question anyway. I haven't delved too deeply into Steiner's germ theory.

[Longjohn]

From The Spectator magazine:

How deadly is the coronavirus? It’s still far from clear

This was written by a a recently-retired Professor of Pathology and United Kingdom NHS consultant pathologist. This sums it all up. Irrespective of the media panic, these are the facts we should be taking seriously:

"How deadly is the coronavirus? It’s still far from clear" (https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think)

43013

I quote some of the most important points:

"When Britain had 590 diagnosed cases, Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser, suggested that the real figure was probably between 5,000 and 10,000 cases, ten to 20 times higher. If he’s right, the headline death rate due to this virus is likely to be ten to 20 times lower, say 0.25 per cent to 0.5 per cent. That puts the Covid-19 mortality rate in the range associated with infections like flu.

"One pretty clear indicator is death. If a new infection is causing many extra people to die (as opposed to an infection present in people who would have died anyway) then it will cause an increase in the overall death rate. But we have yet to see any statistical evidence for excess deaths, in any part of the world.

[Note from me: I looked at the WHO mortality rates a week ago and it confirms this last point!]

"Much of the response to Covid-19 seems explained by the fact that we are watching this virus in a way that no virus has been watched before. The scenes from the Italian hospitals have been shocking, and make for grim television. But television is not science.

"Governments everywhere say they are responding to the science. The policies in the UK are not the government’s fault. They are trying to act responsibly based on the scientific advice given. But governments must remember that rushed science is almost always bad science.

"We have decided on policies of extraordinary magnitude without concrete evidence of excess harm already occurring, and without proper scrutiny of the science used to justify them."

Best, John

[IChingUChing]

From The Spectator magazine:

How deadly is the coronavirus? It’s still far from clear

This was written by a a recently-retired Professor of Pathology and United Kingdom NHS consultant pathologist. This sums it all up. Irrespective of the media panic, these are the facts we should be taking seriously:

"How deadly is the coronavirus? It’s still far from clear" (https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think)

Good article which echoes many voices over here in Germany as well as experts from other countries. It fortunately really is beginning to look like we are all suffering from a pandemic of testing and a media pandemic rather than a virus way more dangerous than the average flu.

[onawah]

C. A. Fitts & J. Rappoport Major Coronavirus Announcement
by Jon Rappoport
April 2, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/02/jon-rappoport-major-announcement-to-my-readers/

"Exposing the scam, I’ve just completed three audio presentations about COVID-19.

They are available at the following link: https://home.solari.com/the-creation-of-a-false-epidemic-with-jon-rappoport/

With the cooperation of Solari.com and Catherine Austin Fitts, we’re making these presentations available to you, and to people around the world.

The series is titled: THE CREATION OF A FALSE EPIDEMIC

Episode 1: HOW IT STARTED
Episode 2: THE MEDICAL CIA, COVERT OPS
Episode 3: THE TRUE GOAL OF THE FALSE PANDEMIC

Readers have been asking how they can help. Listen to the presentation, send out the link to others.

Exposing the COVID-19 covert operation is more important every passing day.

As always, thank you for your support!

Jon "

[araucaria]

I now have tooth ache and my dentists are closed down.
Im more bothered about this than any virus --- the pain not severe but the dentist closed till end of May to protect staff and clients.
Im collateral damage, smiling -- I will be just fine.
Chris

Yes, Chris, you are collateral damage, fortunately just toothache. I have a surgeon in the family: out of work, no one to operate on, simply because the beds etc. are otherwise occupied (or not). Some people will die because their surgery has been postponed. Others will hang on and show up when the hospitals are really swamped under, when this is all over. But the collateral damage is in every field, medical, economic, social, familial… Let’s just make that it also changes what needs to be changed in all those fields.

[DaveToo]

"The key event in the current COVID operation was the sudden Chinese government lockdown of 50 million citizens overnight in three major cities. That was the signal the CDC and the World Health Organization received with open arms.

“Well, they broke the ice. This is what we’ve been waiting for. This is now a model we can sell. Lockdowns on a massive scale.” "

Jon Rappaport

Does it occur to anybody on this particular thread that the coronavirus is a very real threat that governments have a responsibility to react to? At the same time, the powers that are handed them by a frightened populace during times of emergency, will set a precedent (most likely)? It is such limited thinking to believe that it is either one or the other.

Autumn I will take you on, to the very end if need be. Yes I am going to engage you into a serious intellectual discussion on this, if you are willing.

Let me just start off by asking if you respect Catherine Austin Fitts?

[Delight]

I now have tooth ache and my dentists are closed down.
Im more bothered about this than any virus --- the pain not severe but the dentist closed till end of May to protect staff and clients.
Im collateral damage, smiling -- I will be just fine.
Chris

Yes, Chris, you are collateral damage, fortunately just toothache. I have a surgeon in the family: out of work, no one to operate on, simply because the beds etc. are otherwise occupied (or not). Some people will die because their surgery has been postponed. Others will hang on and show up when the hospitals are really swamped under, when this is all over. But the collateral damage is in every field, medical, economic, social, familial… Let’s just make that it also changes what needs to be changed in all those fields.

Hey Chris and all,
The good news to come out of this epicsode is lots of info about self care. EVERYONE I have ever shared this info about oregano oil and toothaches said it works... use straight orgeano oil.

1. Use just ONE drop of oil.
2. Have a small glass water at hand.
3. Dry the inside of the mouth by swallowing all saliva.

keeping mouth wide open, place the one drop of oil at the gum line where tooth hurts. Wait a few seconds and then swig the water (swallow after swishing it.) Wipe any oil that may be on lips as it can burn. This will help with minutes and I repeat several times a day. No abscess will develop and if you have one, it will retreat and NO DENTIST and NO prescription ANTIBIOTICS.

Then work on re-mineralizing cavities etc.

No matter what is happening, we still don't need to be rescued by the smashed up and dying system IMO which is the single only upside to the end of the world (as we once upon a time expected it to be last month).

[T Smith]

Does it occur to anybody on this particular thread that the coronavirus is a very real threat that governments have a responsibility to react to?

Indeed. One of its primary responsibilities is not to lie to the public, especially during, but not limited to, a time of crisis...

Every other so-called responsibility is suspect if we don't have trust.

From what I can tell, that's where we're at...

[DaveToo]

Trying to be simple
You have more chance of dying from something other than the virus this month according to the video below.
It might be a bit long but the "facts" are well presented.
The statistics are the same as used by professional advising the Government.
WHO may not be believed but the point is thats what has been projected to scare people.

The video looks in depth at the official data and projects a different story from the UK fear mongering.

I have watched the whole video in segments and I believe it to be true
Basically the virus follows curves exactly the same as a seasonal virus.
No more dangerous than last years "flu" ---call it what you will.



Chris thanks for posting the video.
I watched most of it.

His delivery is soft and smooth, measured and for the most part his arguments are sound.

However, the video was made prematurely (March 21, 2020 data).
For example he states that the trends are clear for Russia, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Norway, Brazil and Mexico to name a few, when in fact they are far from that.
He had stated that these countries numbers are in decline when they clearly are not.

He also advocates logarithmic scales to be used in charts over linear to get a clearer picture of what is happening, strangely enough!

But as I mentioned, his overall arguments are sound.
Arguments such as, factors other than Covid-19 are far worse, far more lethal overall for the populace.
So if you feel like worrying about something (which he doesn't recommend) don't worry about Covid-19, choose any number of other things far more lethal to worry about.

[Phoenix]

Trying to be simple
You have more chance of dying from something other than the virus this month according to the video below.
It might be a bit long but the "facts" are well presented.
The statistics are the same as used by professional advising the Government.
WHO may not be believed but the point is thats what has been projected to scare people.

The video looks in depth at the official data and projects a different story from the UK fear mongering.

I have watched the whole video in segments and I believe it to be true
Basically the virus follows curves exactly the same as a seasonal virus.
No more dangerous than last years "flu" ---call it what you will.



Chris thanks for posting the video.
I watched most of it.

His delivery is soft and smooth, measured and for the most part his arguments are sound.

However, the video was made prematurely (March 21, 2020 data).
For example he states that the trends are clear for Russia, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Norway, Brazil and Mexico to name a few, when in fact they are far from that.
He had stated that these countries numbers are in decline when they clearly are not.

He also advocates logarithmic scales to be used in charts over linear to get a clearer picture of what is happening, strangely enough!

But as I mentioned, his overall arguments are sound.

the TEST is unnnreliable, how do people keep basing arguments on the "numbers" of cases??????

bill and everyone else being asked this question cannot answer

[DaveToo]

Chris thanks for posting the video.
I watched most of it.

His delivery is soft and smooth, measured and for the most part his arguments are sound.

However, the video was made prematurely (March 21, 2020 data).
For example he states that the trends are clear for Russia, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Norway, Brazil and Mexico to name a few, when in fact they are far from that.
He had stated that these countries numbers are in decline when they clearly are not.

He also advocates logarithmic scales to be used in charts over linear to get a clearer picture of what is happening, strangely enough!

But as I mentioned, his overall arguments are sound.

the TEST is unnnreliable, how do people keep basing arguments on the "numbers" of cases??????

bill and everyone else being asked this question cannot answer

Oh absolutely Phoenix! I am on the same page as you.
The heart of this entire Covid-19 fear mongering is the test!

The test is bogus and so the numbers are totally bogus.

But even if we use their bogus numbers, they still show 'infections' that are peaking overall.

As I've stated recently in this thread, I don't subscribe to any Covid-19 virus.

[Arcturian108]

Very Important audio just received from two different continents:

http://projectavalon.net/AUD-20200330-WA0004.mp3

Who is speaking please?

Good question. I don't know, but will make an attempt to find out.

[AutumnW]

Does it occur to anybody on this particular thread that the coronavirus is a very real threat that governments have a responsibility to react to?

Indeed. One of its primary responsibilities is not to lie to the public, especially during, but not limited to, a time of crisis...

Every other so-called responsibility is suspect if we don't have trust.

From what I can tell, that's where we're at...


That it will overwhelm health care and hospitals if controls are not in place, is not a lie. Other than that, I don't know what you are referring to.

[Phoenix]

Echo chambers are dull!





Yes, all Wi-Fi is detrimental to health, and 5G absolutely in particular. I don't think any member here would take issue with that.
(Certainly not myself! I have to have Wi-Fi in my house — the only way I can get the signal, via a relay pole — but I do NOT have it in my bedroom. There's no signal there. No Wi-Fi when sleeping can make a huge amount of difference to overall health. Fortunately, when 5G eventually reaches Ecuador, if it does, it's really unlikely to get anywhere near the very remote sheltered rural valley where I live.)


Well, as a 22 year IT professional I would disagree that all wifi is detrimental to health; that is a dismissive categorization that ignores the complexities of the topic (and, in general; is not accurate at all, otherwise we would have an epidemic level problem in the western countries. (5G is even LESS penetrating as it is at 5,000 Hz vs 2,400 Hz or so we are currently at)).





The novel coronavirus doesn't just attack older people. The key factor is that it exploits anyone at all whose health is compromised or weakened. In some cases, that can include many younger people as well. Age isn't the thing here. Many younger people will unfortunately succumb as well, and we're already seeing this.


It certainly doesn't seem to effect children at anywhere near the same level as it does adults, or especially the elderly.

If you're 40 or below and in good health, the statistics say you'll be fine. it's the 70+ and those with pre - existing conditions that need to be socially distancing themselves.




So 5G will be a factor that enables the virus (any virus!) to take hold. So will air pollution, smoking, any kind of drug use (pharmaceutical or recreational), heavy metal toxicity, poor water quality, poor diet, an acidic body, high blood pressure (recent research indicates this is a major factor), diabetes, heart or kidney disease, and any chronic inflammatory condition. But these are only exacerbating factors. Not the cause of the pandemic. The coronavirus is a real thing, that's opportunistic — as all viruses are.


I'm pre hypertensive (pre -high blood pressure) and the virus hit me HARD, my SO is not and she slid through with not as intense symptoms as I did. Stressors of any type do interesting things, when chronic (long term) they tend to ware a person's resiliency down, when acute (brief) they seem to greatly help a person grow stronger and better.

Moderation in everything! (even WiFi!)




Always remember: you can't catch 5G symptoms from another person. Infected people who fly into a country with no 5G (like Ecuador) don't suddenly get better. That's how come Ecuador now has 2,300 cases.


And this is why I tossed my response in, the echo chamber can convince itself so much that when someone else steps into it it freaks them the hell out!

5g is POTENTIALLY another chronic stressors (if you live in a city) most people who do not live in cities will not even really be exposed that often to it (due to it's extremely short range).

We are bombarded daily with cosmic radiation, solar radiation, heat (another form of radiation). WIFI is very weak compared to those and 5G will be even "weaker" as far as dermal penetration is concerned.

Don't let this forum be a higher stress source than 5g!(your brain is THAT powerful)

Grains of salt for all!


There are countries that officially don‘t have 5G, but still have problems with Corona virus. If you go to the internet to check who has 5G, then you look for the civil technology. What about the military application. Has it been announced yet where it is applied or not!


ZERO 5G on the island I live on, we have 30 confirmed cases currently and the national guard is being activated today to provide tests, treatment and new arrival screening.


Fear is infections, actions speak loudly...

This Orangutan started obsessively washing it's hands (https://i.imgur.com/2k9Wny9.gifv) after observing it's handlers do so due to the CORVID-19 fear porn...


Think the same doesn't happen with humans? Fear is a CROSS SPECIES disease!

you had respitory problems recently?

did you go to a hospital?

[Delight]

Wim Hof's Corona Survival Guide! | Russell Brand

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[Phoenix]

ok its continuing to add up.

this dude, in the video below has been predicting stuff correctly for awhile now - sensational, but on the money in terms of the real issue here IMO to health.

i dont agree with his idea that trump is the one with his finngers on the 'switch' to turn 5G on though..

this guy claims 5G is ALREADY IN most hospitals. ive yet to verify this yet and not sure if this is true. can someone help?

this is an absolute bombshell if true and connects all my dots from my previous post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110280-COVID-19-Contrarians&p=1347501&viewfull=1#post1347501

this explains everything if so, since people go to the hospitals due to fear, and then while in the hospitals start to fear short of breath...

summary:

1. Dont go to the hospital [HIGHEST RF DANGER THERE, 5G ALREADY THERE]
2. Get rid of 'Smart' Meter now
3. FALL OF 2020 MASSIVE DEATHS DUE TO 5G BEING INSTALLED NOW EVERYWHERE since nobody is outside
4. Airpods & Other RF Devices on Your Head Let 5G lock-on to your face to interrupt oxygen right in front of your face…
5. MYSTERY ILLNESS AT Nichols JR High in Arlingtonn Texas in 2017 was test of what’s happening now. All the kids felt better when they went outside, but inside felt sick and couldn’t breathe.
6. Hospitals are empty now…. and the telecom companies are laying 5G infrastructure in schools
7. Social Distancing is to be able to target you easier…
8. The danger is the millimeter wave 60GHZ beams, i.e. 5G which causes Hypoxia and death, NOT some contagion virus…
9. Chloroqune and Hydroxychloroqune causes hemoglobin issues… you need hemoglobin to absorb oxygen…
10. All these things are access points being able to be turned on remotely

video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZUIHM4jlRI

[Satori]

Forgive me for being a contrarian, but this is a contrarian thread.

You, and all of us, have every right to be suspicious and suspect of government. In fact, we all have a civic duty to be suspicious.

For instance, in the USA there are a few cases from US federal district courts that ruled that the government is not required to be truthful to its citizens. It is not a violation, these district court judges say, to lie to or withhold information from the public. Now, let me be clear. These cases I mention are not official precedent from the USSC or the US Court of Appeals overseeing those lower court cases. These cases never went up to a higher court. Rather, this a a ruling in particular cases by a federal trial judge, binding on the parties in those cases only on the facts and applicable law of those cases.

But, in fact those cases are expressions, on a case-by-case basis, of the official policy of all governments, not just the USA, to lie. But it’s worse. As a routine matter, it is a civil or criminal violation of law for a citizen to lie to government. You can be fined and or go to jail or prison for knowingly, or recklessly, providing false information to the government. But only rarely is it a civil, never criminal, violation for the government to knowingly provide false information, i.e., lie, or recklessly do so, i.e., not lie, but not bother to be accurate, to its citizens.

This state of affairs needs to be leveled out to a fair playing field and needs to be reciprocal, going both ways, and not just a one way street against the people. Going to work in government is not a license to lie, cheat and steal.

Edit: My post was prompted by post #306 above and the quote of T Smith.

[shaberon]

On the cruise ship where all the people on that ship were confined and all had every potential to come down with this virus at any time yet the contagion never reached or grew beyond 20% of the entire pop. of that cruise ship! Make note 80% of those on the ship were naturally immune! They had either no symptoms or when asked had to think and come up with well maybes at best.

This is what I'm starting to sense. There seems to be some degree of immunity. Also resistance if we see 10,000 cases to 1,000 hospitalized. But then so what if this is a "new virus" which can be shown to have no effects? You would have a hard time finding out since no one wants to test healthy people.

While restricting international supplies via sanctions, the U. S. is receiving from China, Iran, and Russia (for free I think), and also "intercepted" things headed for Canada and France. How backwards is that.


Apparently the varieties in Korea, Australia, Iran, Italy do not come from China (https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196). I probably cannot find the article again, but there was an Asian doctor in D. C. who was made to desist from looking into it before the "official reaction".

[T Smith]

Does it occur to anybody on this particular thread that the coronavirus is a very real threat that governments have a responsibility to react to?

Indeed. One of its primary responsibilities is not to lie to the public, especially during, but not limited to, a time of crisis...

Every other so-called responsibility is suspect if we don't have trust.

From what I can tell, that's where we're at...


That it will overwhelm health care and hospitals if controls are not in place, is not a lie. Other than that, I don't know what you are referring to.

I appreciate the current crisis may be overwhelming the health care system and hospitals. I'm not suggesting otherwise, because I honestly don't know. I suspect this virus has presented challenges and is problematic and is potentially disastrous to hospitals and the health care system (I'm not in denial), but at the end of the day, I don't really know. You seem more confident on this point than me, so I will now defer to your good judgment.

How do you know it's not a lie, Autumn? To play devil's advocate--say on behalf of the general observer who hasn't your level of acumen to discern the truth--how do you really know? I'm asking sincerely. Is it just your judgement? Or do you have some inside knowledge you can share? Perhaps you know someone personally in your life--a sister, maybe a neighbor--someone you've known your entire life who is on the front lines, a trauma nurse or a health care professional or an ambulance driver, perhaps, who comes home at night and conveys the horrors to you first hand with no other agenda in tow than to convey their life experiences to you. That would be interesting to me.

Reports from Dr. Fauci, CNN, Fox News, or the local news outlets, however--any mediated experience really--however well intended to inform or reputable in name, only serves to display the subtle art of agenda and sensationalism. We live in a world of mediated experience and mind control. We can discuss that elsewhere, if you disagree, or if you judge I'm exaggerating, but I promise you nothing is what is seems, other than what you know you know.

Here's what I know. I know the CDC tells me vaccines do not cause autism (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html), yet this is a bald-face lie. The CDC is selling me something that is utterly false. Vaccines do cause autism. There is no debate, despite the gaslighting and whitewashing to the contrary, which is outrageous.

At the risk of derailing the thread, I could go on and on here with similar examples of harmful lies disseminated by government that affect lives...

The point is, why should I trust the CDC who tells me to expect 200,000 deaths from COVID-19 by June 1? Or that the present pandemic will "break" our health care system?

I submit this question to you in the contrarian thread, because at present I'm in a contrarian mood. I'm not saying I don't buy the panic. I just want to know what makes you so sure you know what you know.

Kind Regards,
T Smith

[greybeard]

As of yesterday UK there have been 2,921 death cumulative as on the live link.
That is hardly worse for the period of time than conventional winter "virus"
There has been 33,718 confirmed cases there will have been many not confirmed.
Honestly keep it simple.

The fear projection is the concern why lockdown for a normal seasonal event?
Yes I appreciate some countries are having it worse than the UK but then some are better and dont have the Draconian measures imposed here.
Chris

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

[greybeard]

Thanks Delight the advice really appreciated.
I have ordered from Amazon--Time being I am using DMSO
Suppliers on Amazon who give dental "potions" have run out.
Im not the body but I have a responsibility to look after it.

Regards Chris

[onawah]

Good grief! Fed's chosen CV vax producer has billions in court penalties, no vax development experience
From John Gilmore, Autism Action Network
4/3/20
(in an email update today--I don't see it on their website yet: http://autismactionnetwork.org/ ) This is going to require a massive protest!


"The company selected by the federal government to fast-track develop a coronavirus vaccine is the subject of billions in court settlements and judgments, in the last year alone, for being a key operator in the opioid epidemic among other criminal activities, and it has no track record in creating or manufacturing vaccines. And the federal agency that issued the contract is part of the same federal department that will oversee every aspect of the vaccine's evaluation, licensing, and distribution.

Johnson and Johnson (J&J), and it subsidiary Janssen Pharmaceutica, the enormous global medical products firm, was awarded a $450 million contract on Monday by the US federal government. J&J will be committing its own resources to bring the total value of the project to more than $1 billion. Trials of the vaccine are expected to begin in September and production for general use is expected to begin in early 2021. Normally testing and safety analysis of a new vaccine in the US takes 5 to 7 years. J&J will build a new vaccine factory in the US with a goal of producing a billion doses annually beginning next year. Yet no vaccine licensed for use in the US was developed or is manufactured by J&J. And the federal government is already assuming that the vaccine will be safe and effective.

Expedited development of vaccines in the US has a poor track record. In 1976 a vaccine was quickly brought to market for an outbreak of swine flu but just as quickly withdrawn when multiple cases of Guillain Barre Syndrome were caused. And the H1N1 virus rushed to market in 2009 also caused significant numbers of Guillain Barre Syndrome among other side effects.

It is hard to imagine any company could be facing more lawsuits than J&J. According to the Wall Street journal J&J had 103,000 legal claims by companies, individuals, states, cities, counties and other legal entities in the middle of last year. J&J have had legal judgments and settlements of more than $10 billion just in the previous two years.

Last fall an Oklahoma Court fined J&J $465 million for its role in the opioid epidemic in that state. Judge Thad Balkman said J&J had promulgated "false, misleading, and dangerous marketing campaigns" that had "caused exponentially increasing rates of addiction, overdose, deaths" and babies born exposed to opioids. J&J also agreed to a $20 million settlement for damages associated with opioids in two Ohio counties. Thousands of other suits are pending across the US.

J&J was a major player contracting with poppy growers in Australia to supply 60% of the opiate ingredients used for drugs like oxycodone. It also produced an opioid pill the company sold in 2015, and Duragesic, a fentanyl patch.

In a statement released with the announcement of a lawsuit in the spring of 2019 against J&J and other opioid manufacturers, New York Attorney General Leticia James said, "We found that pharmaceutical manufacturers and distributors engaged in years of deceptive marketing about the risks of opioids and failed to exercise their basic duty to report suspicious behavior, leading to the crisis we are living with today."

J&J's legal problems go far beyond opioids. Last month a New Jersey court ordered J&J to pay $186 million in four cases where plaintiffs claimed using J&J talcum powder that contained asbestos caused ovarian cancer. Lawyers for the plaintiffs established that J&J knew the powder contained asbestos but denied that fact publicly. The judgment follows multiple other settlements and awards to plaintiffs including a $4.7 billion judgment by Missouri court in 2018.

J&J also agreed in October of 2019 to a $117 million settlement with 41 states and the District of Columbia over false claims made in the marketing of a pelvic mesh product. Suits are still outstanding with 4 other states.

A Philadelphia jury awarded $8 billion in October 2019 to settle 10,000 lawsuits against J&J for side effects, including gynecomastia (males growing female breasts), associated with its Risperdal product. Risperdal was licensed as a n anti-psychotic marketed extensively in the early 2000s to treat "irritability" associated with autism, and was the first drug licensed to address autism symptoms.

Earlier in 2019 J&J reached a $775 million settlement in 25,000 lawsuits alleging patients were not adequately warned about the risks of life-threatening complications of their Xarelto blood thinner.

All safety and efficacy testing for vaccines is performed by the company seeking to license the product, and then submitted for evaluation to various agencies within the Federal Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). The process assumes the applicant will supply accurate information to the regulatory agencies, yet with J&J the applicant has a very long and well-established record of deception and lawbreaking.

The process also rests on the assumption that the regulatory agencies will be a disinterested parties in the outcome of the application process, yet the federal government is already planning on producing a billion vaccines within months, and every aspect of the development, evaluation and marketing of the vaccine will be under the jurisdiction of HHS. The contract will be administered by the Biological Advanced Research Development Authority (BARDA), a unit of HHS. Safety and efficacy evaluation of the new vaccine will be the responsibility of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) which are also units within HHS. The CDC is also the single largest buyer of vaccines in the US, primarily for the Vaccines for Children Program. Any injuries that may occur from the use of a vaccine would be adjudicated by the Health Resources and Services Administration, which is also a unit within HHS.

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[shaberon]

Johnson and Johnson (J&J), and it subsidiary Janssen Pharmaceutica, the enormous global medical products firm, was awarded a $450 million contract on Monday by the US federal government. J&J will be committing its own resources to bring the total value of the project to more than $1 billion. Trials of the vaccine are expected to begin in September and production for general use is expected to begin in early 2021. Normally testing and safety analysis of a new vaccine in the US takes 5 to 7 years. J&J will build a new vaccine factory in the US with a goal of producing a billion doses annually beginning next year. Yet no vaccine licensed for use in the US was developed or is manufactured by J&J. And the federal government is already assuming that the vaccine will be safe and effective.



This is interesting since one of the few films I have watched about this stuff was with the guy from J&J, which is relatively old by now, and the main take-away lesson I got was about wealth planning so one's grandchildren are secure; i. e. dynasty.

This is really the way it's set up to work??

Most of those lawsuits came out after the film (I think) and I was not aware they were that thoroughly hooked into multiple scenarios. I am not sure where they hide these contracts, we should be able to get something more than a word about it.

[Satori]

A representative from Johnson & Johnson was among the globalist sitting around the table at Event 201. Coincidence I’m sure.

And, let us recall that government contracts are theoretically awarded to the “lowest priced, responsible bidder.” So, what you get is the cheapest product, where corners are cut, and change orders are requested, and sometimes granted, whereby the contract price is increased over time, but the product does not necessarily get better. And if the change order requests increasing the price are not awarded, the product usually gets worse.

[onawah]

No doubt we will be hearing a lot more about this in time from Autism Action Network, Children's Health Defense, etc.



Most of those lawsuits came out after the film (I think) and I was not aware they were that thoroughly hooked into multiple scenarios. I am not sure where they hide these contracts, we should be able to get something more than a word about it.

[Tomkoyote]

Pic2019/2020

[Rawhide68]

Hi folks!

The Solari Report

The Creation of a False Epidemic with Jon Rappoport

I have followed Jon Rappoport over the years as well as Catherrine Austin Fitts (The Solari Report ), and recomend you to listen his opinion as I concider him quite an expert in this topic.

https://home.solari.com/the-creation-of-a-false-epidemic-with-jon-rappoport/

Click to dl or listen

PART I: HOW IT STARTED

PART II: THE MEDICAL CIA, COVERT OP

PART III: THE TRUE GOAL OF THE FALSE PANDEMIC

It's scary to listen to, but unfortunately I think there is more than a grain of sand truth of what he has to say.

[Philippe]

YES THERE IS 5G IN ECUADOR

Reading a post on the facebookpage #Stop5G of fellow member John Kuhles that mentioned 5G in Lima, Peru I immediately checked on google "Prueba 5G Quito" meaning Testing 5G in Quito, capital of Ecuador. Ecuador was very regretfully used to deny a link between the pandemic and 5G.

Read further the post that I put on the Wuhan Corona virus thread but is of course also for Contrarians. The drama of the Covid 19 pandemic is diverting us from what is really at stake !

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-Covid-19-the-Honey-Badger-virus&p=1348200&viewfull=1#post1348200

[Bill Ryan]

YES THERE IS 5G IN ECUADOR

Reading a post on the facebookpage #Stop5G of fellow member John Kuhles that mentioned 5G in Lima, Peru I immediately checked on google "Prueba 5G Quito" meaning Testing 5G in Quito, capital of Ecuador.

Read further the post that was put on the Corona virus thread but is of course also for Contrarians. The drama of the Covid 19 pandemic is diverting us from what is really at stake !

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-Covid-19-the-Honey-Badger-virus&p=1348200&viewfull=1#post1348200NO, THERE ISN'T. :)

I live here! Jeez. Give me a ****ing break.

These are real-time maps of the coverage. The first two maps are of Quito (there are two carriers, called Claro and Movistar), and the second two maps are of Guayaquil (where most of the cases are, and where there are serious problems).

This is easy to check. The site you go to to see maps of 2G/3G/4G/5G coverage anywhere in the world is http://nperf.com.

5G is purple on their color scheme. There's no purple in Ecuador. Testing is one thing. Roll-out is quite different.

Claro in Quito:

http://projectavalon.net/Claro_5G_map_Quito.gif

Movistar in Quito:

http://projectavalon.net/Movistar_5G_map_Quito.gif

Claro in Guayaquil:

http://projectavalon.net/Claro_5G_map_Guayaquil.gif

Movistar in Guayaquil:

http://projectavalon.net/Movistar_5G_map_Guayaquil.gif

[greybeard]

Matt Hancock orders Brits not to break coronavirus lockdown during weekend heatwave: If we relax our discipline people will die
Evening Standard Luke O'Reilly,Evening Standard

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/matt-hancock-orders-brits-not-153000816.html

Health Secretary Matt Hancock speaking during a media briefing in Downing Street: PA

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has begged Britons to stay at home this weekend as the UK is set for a mini-heatwave.

Mr Hancock told a press conference at Downing Street: "We can not relax our discipline now, if we do people will die."

Ruth May, chief nurse at Nightingale Hospital, asked Britons to remember the two registered nurses who have died when deciding whether to go out this weekend.

It comes as the Department of Health confirmed 684 more people have died in hospital after testing positive for coronavirus, bringing the total deaths in the UK to 3,605.

During the press conference, Mr Hancock gave an “instruction” for people to continue to stay at home this weekend, even if the weather proves good.

He said: “We are set for a warm weekend in some parts of the country.

“But the disease is still spreading and we absolutely cannot afford to relax the social distancing measures we have in place.

“We cannot relax our discipline now. If we do, people will die.

“I end with the advice we all know. This advice is not a request – it is an instruction.

“Stay at home, protect lives and then you will be doing your part.”

England’s chief nursing officer Ruth May has urged members of the public not to be tempted to go outside in the forecast sunny weather this weekend and remember the two nurses who died after contracting Covid-19.

Two nurses, Areema Nasreen and Aimee O’Rourke, both in their 30s, have died after contracting the virus.

In the daily Downing Street press conference, Ms May said: “This weekend is going to be very warm and it will be very tempting to go out and enjoy those summer rays.

“But please, I ask to remember Aimee and Areema. Please stay at home for them.”

Ms May expressed her condolences to their families, friends and colleagues and said she feared further nurses will die.

She said: “They were one of us, they were one of my profession, of the NHS family. I worry that there’s going to be more and I want to honour them today and recognise their service.”


Chris says
Emotional black mail Plus!!!

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Friends: this post is almost identical to the one on the The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus] (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-Covid-19-the-Honey-Badger-virus&p=1348228&viewfull=1#post1348228) thread.

These two threads have become very confused, sometimes with identical posts being copied (double-posted) on both. And many articles and videos have been posted multiple times.

It's simply been increasingly hard to follow and keep up to date with replies and counterpoints, updates, important news, and important ideas. These are always our priorities, anywhere on the forum..

And this thread, COVID-19 Contrarians (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110280-COVID-19-Contrarians), is itself confused, as 'contrarian' with reference to this complex issue can mean several different things.

For example: I'm a contrarian myself (of course!), inasmuch as I'm sure this is a bioweapon, and that there's a deeper agenda.

At the same time, I'm equally certain viruses are real things, and the globally reported statistics are not invented (though they may well be incorrect). This is NOT the Truman Show!

So what's needed is a separation and clarification of the main issues. That helps us all, including our now record numbers of guests.

What the mods will do from here on out is move posts that seem to be in the incorrect thread, and also start to come down a little more firmly on members who seem to be contributing to the chaos (rather than contributing to the clarity!) — blocking them from any particular thread if absolutely necessary in order to preserve at least some sense of order.

It'd be a little like throwing unruly people out of a quiet, orderly library or seminar room. We reserve the right to do that, on any thread or issue at all in any part of the forum. We rarely ever do that... but we've had the theoretical capability for a couple of years now.

So far, the mods' patience has been pretty exceptional. But we're feeling that by NOT so far taking clear steps to support things being more orderly and organized has now reached a tipping point to become counterproductive. We really do have to do this.

So these two threads will be closed (though we'll 'stick' them to make sure they're always readable and never lost from sight), and we'll start again with new categories that are more clearly defined.

Anyone's more than welcome to copy one of their older posts to one of the new threads (thereby re-posting it there) — or just PM any moderator and they can do that if you link to the post(s) in question, telling us where you'd like it or them to be moved.

Our first thought had been to sort out and re-categorize everything ourselves, but it quickly became clear that with 3,400 posts to read all over again (OMG! :bigsmile: ), and then make decisions about each one, was a near-impossible amount of work.

So these are the new threads. (We're open to suggestions for optimizing the thread titles for clarity.) I'll start each one off with a brief, simple description of what that thread should feature and discuss. Then, please by all means add whatever you'd like.


Covid19: Global reports, news and updates (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110505-Covid19-Global-reports-news-and-updates)



Covid19: Cui Bono? Is there an agenda? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110506-Covid19-Cui-Bono-Is-there-an-agenda)
(this includes media hype, proven media falsehoods, etc etc)



Covid19: Don't trust the statistics (or the mainstream science about the cause of the sickness) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110507-Covid19-Don-t-trust-the-statistics--or-the-mainstream-science-about-the-cause-of-the-sickness-)
(this includes speculation about the role of 5G and other factors)



Covid19: There's very little danger: Covid19 may not exist at all. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110508-Covid19-There-s-very-little-danger-Covid19-may-not-exist-at-all.)
(this is really the "it's just the flu" thread, also for those who don't believe viruses even exist or can be "caught".)


I'll almost certainly only be posting on the first two of those threads. Members are free to figure things out themselves, and post whatever they like on threads 3 and 4.

Duplicate videos and articles may well be removed from any of the threads. That's simply to make the threads easier to read and follow — for everyone.

We do fully understand that in many cases, duplicates have been posted precisely because the threads have become confused and hard to search. We know that most people posting duplicates had no idea the material had already been shared.

This is not a censure of anyone at all. We're purely doing our best to be good librarians here, and as mentioned above, we're open to suggestions to improve or optimize this even further.

Thanks for your own patience and understanding. This isn't happening "late in the game" — on the contrary, we're convinced this has only all started. So our intention is that the new thread categories may be truly helpful and valuable to members and guests for (alas! :) ) many months to come.