The true and lost history of the Tuth De Dian people

[Angel]

My name is Angel for safety I am not going to use my full name. I have been anxiously awaiting for the day I can finaly tell of the lost history of my people. I don't expect anyone to believe this. I simply need to tell the truth. I have a very long history to tell. Three thousand years of lost history. I am a member of The Tuth De Dian people. We have many names over the ages. I use this name because it is one of the few surviving names that humanity may still know us by. I have chosen Avalon as the place I will reveal this hidden history to the Avalon family.

I am in a postion of authority within my people social structure. So I can freely speak of my peoples history. I regret that circumstances in reality prevent me from quickly and consistantly updating the thread. I am anxious to tell my peoples history. There is so much. I remember almost everything from the time I was young to the present. I regret that I can not tell of all in this moment. I wish to accurately describe the events that I have witnessed over the ages.

I was born on what is now known as Ierland on the northern coast. In a castle that still stands to this day. Called The Eire a once majestic fortress it is not but ruin now. I visit it often to remember my father built the castle on the edge of the sea cliffs to prevent attack. We had many people and peace was more often than not.

I wish I could tell more. I long for the truth to be told I have been forced to be silent for ages while my people slowly faded into myths and legends. I will in the coming weeks tell of all my peoples history from the beginning to the end.

I wish to warn those that truly wish to know about us. We are not on any history book nor on the internet this was a deliberate act to erase our people. One that I am still strongly against. I will speak on all this at a later time. I am grateful that I have been given a chance to finaly tell the true history of my people. I once again wish to thank the entire Avalon Family for accepting me into the family. I will recount as much of my peoples history as is safe for me to tell. I am as I said in a postion that gives me authority to tell of our peoples history without fear of repercussions. However I have not reversed the councels ruling that declared it unlawful for anyone of us to speak to outsiders of our people. This I am and have allways been against strongly. I was the only one in the councle chambers who did not vote for this and it was the most hurtful betrayal in my life. I've been betrayed manytimes as you will find out.

My people thought this desicion was right it was not and now I can not keep my silence any longer. I will tell of our history regardless if anyone believes it. I hope that this record will survive as the only complete and unaltered record of our deeds and our failures and hopefully some will read this and know that we are more than myths and fairy tales. I look forward to sharing more in the near future with everyone in The Avalon Family. I thank you all again for giving me this opportunity to finaly tell the truth about my peoples history.

[Did You See Them]

Thank You

Prey Tell

[louisecroukamp]

Thank you, I'm very interested!!!

[Justplain]

My parents are from the north coast of Ireland. A beautiful green land, home of smart and spiritual people. The Irish of any creed have a shamanic heritage.

[onawah]

Actually, Dark Journalist has been researching those people's history, and has included his findings in some of his "X Series":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m2Qvh85QBY&list=PLNfJkzByQRux01gvudalzEGUgoH496qaywhich
...which you might want to check out, if only for accuracy or out of curiosity.
He has surprisingly good sources of information, and he communicates willingly with his listeners, and is gracious about including new information they might want to offer.
One thread on Avalon devoted to DJ:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018
You could try contacting him on his Facebook page and ask if he could list for you the particular episodes that touch most on your subject of interest:
https://www.facebook.com/DarkJournalist/



We are not on any history book nor on the internet this was a deliberate act to erase our people. One that I am still strongly against. I will speak on all this at a later time. I am grateful that I have been given a chance to finaly tell the true history of my people. I once again wish to thank the entire Avalon Family for accepting me into the family. I will recount as much of my peoples history as is safe for me to tell. I am as I said in a postion that gives me authority to tell of our peoples history without fear of repercussions. However I have not reversed the councels ruling that declared it unlawful for anyone of us to speak to outsiders of our people. This I am and have allways been against strongly. I was the only one in the councle chambers who did not vote for this and it was the most hurtful betrayal in my life. I've been betrayed manytimes as you will find out.

My people thought this desicion was right it was not and now I can not keep my silence any longer. I will tell of our history regardless if anyone believes it. I hope that this record will survive as the only complete and unaltered record of our deeds and our failures and hopefully some will read this and know that we are more than myths and fairy tales. I look forward to sharing more in the near future with everyone in The Avalon Family. I thank you all again for giving me this opportunity to finaly tell the truth about my peoples history.

[Mashika]

I was born on what is now known as Ierland on the northern coast. In a castle that still stands to this day. Called The Eire a once majestic fortress it is not but ruin now. I visit it often to remember my father built the castle on the edge of the sea cliffs to prevent attack. We had many people and peace was more often than not.


Xmmmm, this is a bit odd, or maybe i'm not reading it correctly? You were born in this castle your father built, before the land was called like we call it these days? So how old are you now? How was your land called back then?

[aoibhghaire]

I had read Comyn/Dinneen version of the original book History of Ireland by Keating that deals with invasion of the Tuatha Dé Danann, the branching of the tribe that was noblest of the Tuatha Dé Danann, the kings of the Tuatha Dé Danann, the length of their sovereignty over Ireland.

The History of Ireland was written in Irish about 1632 by Keating, and was very popular and widely circulated in manuscript, printing of books in Irish being effectively prohibited by the English rulers. In it he gives a history of Ireland from earliest times until the Norman invasion of 1169 AD. His sources were mostly older Irish ancient Annals and histories, some of which are now lost, which he summarised in modern (i.e.17th century) Irish in a fluent and readable style. Most previous and contemporary Irish historians wrote in a very archaic and stilted language, which needed special training to read, so Keating's history became the standard version. He was also popular because he provided evidence refuting the anti-Irish propaganda of English writers, who liked to portray the Irish as savages in order to justify their conquest and expropriation.


The events deal with the time before the coming of St. Patrick, are generally regarded as mythical by modern scholars. Be that as it may, they were undoubtedly believed to be true by Keating and his contemporaries, and his successors at least as far down as Sylvester O'Halloran in the late 18th century. Every nation needs a founding myth, and the successive invasions by Formorians, FirBolg, Tuatha Dé Danaan and Milesians are Ireland's. Much Irish literature, art and music draws on them; they are to Ireland what Livy's early books were to Rome or Geoffrey de Monmouth's history was to Britain.

The interesting part is that the Tuatha Dé Danaan society were recorded as a physical presence around 1600 BC. What’s unusual is that both the myths and the reality correlate with each other in recorded history.

I've seen 3 or 4 episodes in the DARK JOURNALIST X SERIES dealing with the Tuatha De Danann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CazztUbNSnI&index=26&list=PLNfJkzByQRux01gvudalzEGUgoH496qay

DARK JOURNALIST X SERIES XXV: TUATHA DE DANANN ATLANTIS FIRE CRYSTAL INITIATES IN IRELAND REVEALED!

This special episode Dark Journalist uncovers the true roots of the historical account of the Tuatha De Danann, a mysterious group that ruled Ireland in Ancient times using the remnants of Atlantean Fire Crystal Technology. This unusual Crystal was referred to by the Sleeping Prophet Edgar Cayce as the Tuaoi Stone and Anthroposophical leader Rudolf Steiner also identified Ireland as the place of the High Initiates.

One of our members, Walter Bosley wrote a non fiction book that the Tuatha De Danann is discussed across thirty-three chapters. He was interviewed by the Dark Journalist recently.

I have been to the site of the last battle fought by the Tuatha De Danann beside Lough Arrow in County Sligo.

[amor]

This is a serious question. Do the "little people, the fairy people" get into the story anywhere? I had an acquaintance who said. he could see them. Since the Atlantians had all sorts of technology at their disposal, probably including invisibility cloaking, and wands which could materialize things out of nothing, all of which is now being said to be an offshoot of the manipulation of the zero field, I see no reason to doubt they exist.

Please give us an outline of their history at least, and then we can dig in as it fills out. No one believed in Mermaids either, but it would appear they do actually exist. I would like to know more about their lives and survival. Wouldn't you? I don't care who thinks I am gullible. Do not live in a box. Kick them out of your way.

[Ratszinger]

My name is Angel for safety I am not going to use my full name. I have been anxiously awaiting for the day I can finaly tell of the lost history of my people. I don't expect anyone to believe this. I simply need to tell the truth. I have a very long history to tell. Three thousand years of lost history. I am a member of The Tuth De Dian people. We have many names over the ages. I use this name because it is one of the few surviving names that humanity may still know us by. I have chosen Avalon as the place I will reveal this hidden history to the Avalon family.

I am in a postion of authority within my people social structure. So I can freely speak of my peoples history. I regret that circumstances in reality prevent me from quickly and consistantly updating the thread. I am anxious to tell my peoples history. There is so much. I remember almost everything from the time I was young to the present. I regret that I can not tell of all in this moment. I wish to accurately describe the events that I have witnessed over the ages.

I was born on what is now known as Ierland on the northern coast. In a castle that still stands to this day. Called The Eire a once majestic fortress it is not but ruin now. I visit it often to remember my father built the castle on the edge of the sea cliffs to prevent attack. We had many people and peace was more often than not.

I wish I could tell more. I long for the truth to be told I have been forced to be silent for ages while my people slowly faded into myths and legends. I will in the coming weeks tell of all my peoples history from the beginning to the end.

I wish to warn those that truly wish to know about us. We are not on any history book nor on the internet this was a deliberate act to erase our people. One that I am still strongly against. I will speak on all this at a later time. I am grateful that I have been given a chance to finaly tell the true history of my people. I once again wish to thank the entire Avalon Family for accepting me into the family. I will recount as much of my peoples history as is safe for me to tell. I am as I said in a postion that gives me authority to tell of our peoples history without fear of repercussions. However I have not reversed the councels ruling that declared it unlawful for anyone of us to speak to outsiders of our people. This I am and have allways been against strongly. I was the only one in the councle chambers who did not vote for this and it was the most hurtful betrayal in my life. I've been betrayed manytimes as you will find out.

My people thought this desicion was right it was not and now I can not keep my silence any longer. I will tell of our history regardless if anyone believes it. I hope that this record will survive as the only complete and unaltered record of our deeds and our failures and hopefully some will read this and know that we are more than myths and fairy tales. I look forward to sharing more in the near future with everyone in The Avalon Family. I thank you all again for giving me this opportunity to finaly tell the truth about my peoples history.

SPILL! Please! Pretty please with sugar on top!

[Andre]

very interested and will begin by viewing what the Dark Journalist has on the subject.

[aoibhghaire]

Hi Amor,

Just following up on your interest in the ‘Little People’.

From an Irish context I have read two books that provide an insightful depth into the ‘Little People’.

Elementals are real and I believe that they assist the planet in very beneficial ways. These beings exist on a different realm and dimension than humans, which is why most of us can't see them so readily. The author below is fortunate to have the ability to see and perceive these beings and tells a wonderful and fascinating story of her encounters with them. She also offers ways for others to make a connection and work with elementals as well as guidelines for manifesting.

‘Summer With the Leprechauns: A True Story’ by Tanis Helliwell.

An astonishing true story about one woman’s journey to Ireland where she lived in a cottage with leprechauns. These seldom-seen beings taught her about the evolution of elementals—the race to which leprechauns, faeries, elves, trolls belong. They explained the importance of humans and elementals working together for the betterment of both of their races and the Earth.

The leading male leprechaun’s urgent message for humanity: "Humans are harming our own environment and theirs." With charming style and humour, Ms. Helliwell recounts the instructions from the Leprechaun on how humans can interact with elemental beings, as well as revealing the fascinating relationship she developed with this delightful fellow.

‘Pilgrimage with the Leprechauns: A true story of a mystical tour of Ireland’. by Tanis Helliwell's

A true story of a mystical tour of Ireland is a romp to the sacred sites of Ireland accompanied by a leprechaun who is helping her and her thirty fellow pilgrims face their blind spots. They have a topsy-turvy encounter with the mischievous, wise humour that the Irish call "The Craic." "The Craic” cannot be pinned down and, when you try to do so, it joggles you out of your comfort zone and laughs at you. It is both the great cosmic joke and cosmic joker. The Craic is magic. The Craic comes, whenever it wants, and does, whatever it can, to move us into deeper knowing and truth. The only approach a sane person can take towards the Craic is to surrender to it, as any resistance is futile.

[Unicorn]

What an interesting thread! Surely all the information provided here is very well-received. Thanks also for the reading suggestions. Being in Spain and under home quarantine, this is going to be highly appreciated.

Blessings

[Violet3]

Love this topic. Thanks to Angel for starting it- looking forward to hearing more. Thanks also to Aoibhghaire for the learned commentary. I agree that Dark Journalist's discussion is fascinating and well researched. I was recently reading a book called 'The Twelve Heirarchies of Earth' by Amanda Guggenheimer, in which she mentions that there are 2 Faerie outposts on Earth at present, though in another dimension. The outposts are in Ireland, and in the vicinity of Uluru in Australia. I am not sure if the Faeries and the Tuth de Dian (also spelled Tuatha de Danaan?) are the same- perhaps you would like to comment Angel?

[Le Chat]

Xmmmm, this is a bit odd, or maybe i'm not reading it correctly? You were born in this castle your father built, before the land was called like we call it these days? So how old are you now? How was your land called back then?


Exactly as I read it as well. Sure does sound odd....

[Andre]

I recall Findhorn in Ireland worked with the faery people and elementals decades ago so I decided to check out their website and it certainly looks like Findhorn bears little resemblance to what it was decades ago. The website now features pages on "carbon offsets", "global networking partners" a holiday park and other mainstream agendas - at least that's what it looks like to me. I don't think I'll even bother adding a link (sigh).

[Jayke]

Khorenatsi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movses_Khorenatsi), an Armenian scholar from 410AD described the Germanic tribes as the Scythian kings or ‘Gor-Amun’, meaning ‘the followers of Horus from the family of pharaoh Amun’, which would explain why early pharaohs were depicted with blue eyes. Robert Sephre looks at the Tuatha da Danaan/Scythian connection (https://www.facebook.com/atlanteangardens/videos/313389822700119/) in some of his videos.


http://gilarbey.blogspot.com/2017/01/ancient-masons-adepts-of-god-horus.html?m=1


Historian M.Khorenatsi in his book The History of Armenia attributes the ‘Gel’ symbol to the lineage of Gelar Kuni and calls Gelarians the great and eminent Sisak family, i.e. Scythian kings (52). The ‘Anglo-Saxon’ symbol derived from the ‘Gel-Sisak’ symbol. It is recognised that Anglo-Saxons were the Germanic tribes of Angles and Saxons. The ‘German’ symbol means ‘Gor-Amun’ and is interpreted as “the followers of Horus from the family of Pharaoh Amun”.

http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/03/faces-of-ancient-egypt.html
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There was an old forum thread from 2011 about the Tuatha da danaan being the people of the am-tuat (https://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/bat/index.htm), the ancient Egyptian mystery keepers. Although, very much interested to hear Angels perspective from her living tradition and family history...:sun:

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10360-The-Book-Am-Tuat-and-other-bits-of-Info&p=88313&highlight=Tuatha#post88313





The Book Am-Tuat and The Book of Gates

"'Am-Tuat,'...i.e., 'The Book of what is in the Tuat,' is the name given by the Egyptians to the large funeral book (cosmological treatise) in which the priests of Amen describe the Other World according to the views of their order, and the passage of their god Amen-Ra (in his «boat« ) through the mysterious country which he traversed during the hours of the night...it depicts hundreds of gods and goddesses that appear nowhere else in the literature

TO SEE THE TEXT AND IMAGES
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/eg...bat/index1.htm


The history of the Book Am-Tuat shows that the Egyptians treated it as they treated their older Books of the Dead; they first copied it on the walls of tombs, then on the sides of stone sarcophagi and wooden coffins, and next on rolls of papyrus.

We have seen how the kings of the XVIIIth (during the time of Moses) and XIXth Dynasties had it copied on the walls of their tombs...

Similar in many details, but widely different from the Book Am-Tuat in point of fundamental doctrine (or so it seems), is the great funeral work to which the names 'Book of the Lower Hemisphere,' 'Book of Hades,' have been given.

A glance at the pictures which accompany the texts of this Book is sufficient to show that it deals with the passage of the Sun-god through the Other World during the hours of Night, but as M. Maspero pointed out long ago, it is wrong to call the region through which the god passes by the name of 'Lower Hemisphere,' for it suggests (he seems to think) that it is below the surface of the earth, which is not the case.

There is much to be said against the titles 'Book of Hades,' and 'Book of Hell,' and among the prominent characteristics that distinguish it from the Book Am-Tuat is a series of gates...It will be convenient and more correct to call it the 'Book of Gates...As the Book Am-Tuat was composed with the view of asserting the absolute supremacy of Amen-Ra in the Other World, so the Book of Gates was compiled to prove that, despite the pretensions of the priests of Amen-Ra, Osiris, the ancient god of the dead (and resurrection) was still the overlord of the Underworld, and that his kingdom was everlasting..."

"This region was called by the Egyptians 'Tat,' or 'Tuat,' or 'Tuaut;' the oldest form of the name, and that which is met with in the earliest of the Pyramid Texts is 'Tat.'

The chief god of the 'Tuat' was called 'Tuat'...and the beings who lived there were called 'Tuatiu.'

The meaning of the name Tat, or Tuat, is unknown, and it is useless to speculate upon it or invent etymologies for it; it was applied to the home of the beatified spirits and the damned, no doubt in prehistoric times, and the exact meaning which it conveyed to the minds of those who first used it has been lost...

To find a word which shall at once describe the situation and character of the Tuat is impossible (says the author), for the reason that the Egyptian conception of the place of the departed spirits is unique...

On the whole, the word Tuat may be best rendered by 'The Other World,' or 'Underworld,' always provided that it be clearly understood that the Egyptians never believed it to be under the earth.

In inventing a situation for the Tuat, the Egyptians appear to have believed that the whole of the habitable world, that is to say, Egypt, was surrounded by a chain of mountains lofty and impassable...

Outside of this chain of mountains...was the region of the Tuat; it ran parallel with the mountains, and was on the plane either of the land of Egypt or of the sky above it...

The Tuat had the shape of a valley; and from the fact that it began near the place where the Sun set, and ended near the place where he arose, it is permissible to say that the Tuat was nearly circular in form.

That this is the view taken by the Egyptians themselves is proved by the scene which produced in the Book of Gates.

Here we have the body of Osiris bent round a circle, and the hieroglyphics enclosed within it declare that it is the Tuat.

(The Egyptian Heaven and Hell, by E.A. Wallis Budge)
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THE TUATHA DE DANANN

The Mythico-Historical Children of Israel

"The Irish race of today is popularly known as the Milesian Race, because the genuine Irish (Celtic) people were supposed to be descended from Milesius of Spain, whose sons, say the legendary accounts, invaded and possessed themselves of Ireland a thousand years before Christ.

But it is nearly as inaccurate to style the Irish people pure Milesian because the land was conquered and settled by the Milesians, as it would be to call them Anglo-Norman because it was conquered and settled by the twelfth century English.

The races that occupied the land when the so-called Milesians came, chiefly the Firbolg and the Tuatha De Danann, were certainly not exterminated by the conquering Milesians.

Those two peoples formed the basis of the future population, which was dominated and guided, and had its characteristics molded, by the far less numerous but more powerful Milesian aristocracy and soldiery.

All three of these races, however, were different tribes of the great Celtic family, who, long ages before, had separated from the main stream, and in course of later centuries blended again into one tribe of Gaels--three derivatives of one stream, which after winding their several ways across Europe from the East...finally blended in amity, and flowed onward in one great Gaelic stream.

Of these three certain colonisations of Ireland, the Firbolg was the first.

Legend says they came from Greece, where they had long been enslaved, and whence they escaped in the captured ships of their masters...But the possession of the country was wrested from the Firbolgs, and they were forced into partial serfdom by the Tuatha De Danann (people of the goddess Dana) who arrived later...

Totally unlike the uncultured Firbolgs, the Tuatha De Danann were a capable and cultured, highly civilized people, so skilled in the crafts, if not the arts, that the Firbolgs named them necromancers (practitioners of the art of revealing future events by calling up the spirits of the dead...

compare 1 Samuel 28:7-15 and of the methods employed by the entire school of Christian prophets after the time of Christ..."For Christ was dead, and is now alive."); and in course of time both the Firbolgs and the...Milesians created a mythology around them.

The question will arise, especially among present-day Jews: if the Tutha De Danann are among the children of Israel, why do we not find them in history speaking a Hebrew dialect?

And the simple answer is, we do.

The ancient Gaelic language is the proto-Hebrew dialect. The language that we associate with Hebrew in our time, which was not a spoken language at all in time of Moses (nor was it ever intended to be), was still being created over on the mainland of Europe.

It was being devised by that school of the "Druid" religion that was versed in the emerging Hebrew literary tradition--in the allegories and stories--and in the Kabbalistic means by which the Indo-European-Gaelic language of that ancient time was being cryptically transmitted into a sacerdotal Hebrew script.

The methods used presently fall under the headings of Gamatria, Notariqon, Temura, and Atbash.

This Hebrew code was being devised for the use of the priests and Levites, so that they could keep the Hebrew mysteries (thus access to the oracles of truth) from the sons of Darkness (and it seems they succeeded)...

As these adepts in the Hebrew mysteries walked abroad, transmitting Hebrew precepts and teachings to the peoples around them, they had the ability, or the choice, to do so directly from their own hidden code, thus speaking directly to those who were candidates for initiation into the Inner mysteries, or outwardly in allegories and metaphors to the people at large.

They read from their Hebrew code (which had no specific sound in itself other than the Gaelic from it was devised) but spoke to the people in the various languages and dialects of the peoples themselves.

They might explain the mysteries of Christ for instance, which were written there in the types and images of their Torah code, in terms of what would later become the Druid cult of Hesus, or the Greek cults of Apollo and Dionysus, or the Thracian Adonis.

All of which served in later times to create a mythological system among the other peoples and nations that seemed to be like the Hebrew myths, but different.

The reality is that they are all directly related, and all the adepts in the World-mystery, throughout every succeeding generation, have found the freedom to interpret them as such and to interrelate them.

...Over on the island, which was now indisputably De Danann, reigned the hero Lugh, famous in mythology. And after Lugh, the still greater Dagda--whose three grandsons, succeeding him in the sovereignty, were still reigning, says the stories, when the Milesians came.

Such a great people were the De Danann, and so uncommonly skilled in the few arts of the time, that they dazzled even their conquerors and successors, the Milesians, into regarding them as mighty magicians, (Magi).

Later generations of the Milesians, to whom were handed down the wonderful traditions of the wonderful people they had conquered, lifted them up into a mystic realm, their greatest ones becoming gods and goddesses (guiding principles and ideas) who supplied to their successors a beautiful mythology...

Lugh was not only the son of a god (of Manannan MacLir, the sea-god) and the greatest of heroes.

...but tradition gave him all the many mortal powers of his people, so that he was called Sab Ildanach meaning Stem of all the Arts.

When the De Danann first arrived in Ireland Lugh went to the court of Eochaid, the Firbolg king at Tara (a later place-name derived from "Torah", from which the Law is issued forth), and sought an office.

But no one was admitted a member of this court unless he was a master of some art or craft not already represented there.

The doorkeeper barring Lugh's way demanded on what ground he sought to be admitted. Lugh answered that he was a "saer" (carpenter).

No they had a good "saer" in the court already. Then he said he was a good smith. They had an able smith also. Well he was a champion.

They already had a champion. Next, he was a harper. They had a wonderful harper too. Then a poet and antiquarian. They had such--and of the most eminent. But he was a magician.

They had many Druids, adepts in the occult. He was a physician. They had a famous physician, Diancecht. He was a cupbearer. They had nine. Then a goldsmith. They had the famous Creidne. "Then," said Lugh, "go to your king, and ask him if he has in his court any man who is at once master of all these arts and professions. If he has, I shall not ask admittance to Tara."

Eochaid, the king, was overjoyed. He led in the wonderful Lugh, and put him in the chair of the "ard-ollam," the chief professor of the arts and sciences.

The Dagda, who reigned just before the coming of the Milesians, was the greatest of the De Danann.

He was styled Lord of Knowledge and Sun of all the Sciences.

His daughter, Brigit, was a woman of Wisdom, and goddess of poetry. The Dagda was a great and beneficent ruler for Eighty years."

(The Story of the Irish Race, A Popular History of Ireland, by Seumas MacManus)
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IRISH (Celto-European) GODS

The Celtic Hesus or Esus (Jesus) was a mysterious god of Gaul. The Irish form was "Aesar," meaning, "He who kindles a Fire," and the Creator.

In this we are reminded of the Etruscan "Aesar," the Egyptian Sun bull "Asi," the Persian "Aser," the Scandanavian "Aesir," and the Hindoo "Aeswar." The Bhagavat-Gita says of the last that "he resides in very mortal."

Hesus was acknowledged in the British Isles. In one place he is represented with a hatchet, cutting down a Tree.

As the Briton "Euzus," the figure is not attractive looking.

Dom Martin styles Esus or Hesus "the Jehovah of the Gauls." He was perhaps the Aesar, or Living Ones of the Etruscans.

Leflocq declares, "Esus is the true god of the Gauls, and stands for them the Supreme Being, absolute and free." The name occurs on an altar erected in the time of Emperor Tiberius, which was found in 1711 under the choir of Notre Dame, Paris.

Sun-gods were as common in Ireland as in other lands. ...The Irish sun-gods, naturally enough, fought successfully in summer (in the North), and the Bards give many illustrations of their weakness in winter.

Sun heroes were not precisely deities, as they were able to go down to Hades. Aengus, the young sun, whose foster-father was Mider, King of the Fairies (the memories), was the protector of the Dawn goddess "Etain,"...His father was the great god Dagda.

Sun gods have usually golden hair, and are given to shooting off arrows (sunbeams), like Chaldean ones...They grow very rapidly, are helpers and friends of mankind, but are engaged everywhere in ceaseless conflicts with the gods or demons of darkness.

The Irish sun-gods had chariots, like those of the East.

They indulged in the pleasures of the chase, and of fighting, but were more given to the pursuit of Erin's fairest daughters.

Occasionally they made improper acquaintance with darker beings, and were led into trouble thereby.

"Grian" was the appellation of the sun, and "Carneach" for the priest of the Solar deity. Strabo mentions a temple in Cappadocia to Apollo "Grynaeus."

Ovid notes a goddess called by the ancients Grane."

The Phrygians had a god "Grynaeus." "Grane" and Baal both refer to the sun. J.T. O'Flarrety regarded the Irish word "Grian" as pure Phoenician.

The "Four Masters" inform their readers that "the monarch Loagaire had sworn ratha-Greine agus Gavithe;" this is, by the Sun and the Wind.

Breaking his oath, he was killed by these divinities. Eusubius held that Usous, King of Tyre, erected Two Pillars for worship to the Sun and the Wind.

The Phoenicians have been credited as the introducers of Irish solar deities.

Sir S. Rush Meyrick held their origin in these islands from Arkite sun-worship: Tydain was the Arkite god, the Lord of Mystery.

H. O'Brien, in "Phoenician Ireland", Dublin 1822, spoke of the Irish word "Sibbol" as "a name by which the Irish, as well as almost all other nations, designated and worshipped Cybele;" "sibola," an ear of corn, being a symbol of Ceres and Cybele of the Phoenicians...

The Gaulish "Belenus" was known over these Islands. In his temples at Bayeux and at Bath there were images of the Solar god. He was adored, too, at Mont St. Michel.

A remnant of his worship is seen in the customs of maids washing their faces in May-morn dew, and then mounting a hill to see the sunrise.

According to Schedius, the word may be rendered 2 + 8 + 30 + 5 + 50 + 70 + 200 or 365, the period in days of the sun's annual round.

The solar Hercules was represented In Irish by "Ogmian" or "Ogham." The god of light was ever god of the Heavens...

"Samhan," literally servant, is derived from "Sam," the sun; (thus Samuel, the Druid priest of the Sun), so "samh-an," like the sun. As the Irish Pluto, he is guardian of the Dead. As such he would receive the prayers for souls on All Hallows Eve... Irish Druids and Old Irish Religions, by James Bonwick.

All of these ancient stories, myths and legends, along with the many various aspects of Nature worship that attended them (some based in the purely naturalistic and pantheistic framework of human thought, and others in the highly developed and intuitive frame of mind of the Hebrew prophets) are all directly related to, and for the greatest part flow from the Oral traditions of the Hebrew mysteries. Each of them were reconciled to the Hebrew Mysteries again in the time of Christ, in the Mystery of Christ...

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[aoibhghaire]

Some interesting correlations as to the whereabouts of the Tuaoi Stone and connections to the Tuatha da Danann tower buildings:

Tuatha da Danann: Variously translated as “Followers of the Goddess Danu,” the Celtic divine patroness of water, or the “Magicians of the Almoners” (those who dispense sacred wisdom), the Tuatha da Danann are described in medieval Irish chronicles, such as the Annals of Clonmacnoise (1627), as a “sea people.”

Encyclopedist Anna Franklin (2006) states that Danu was an Indo-European water-god, appropriate for an Atlantean sea people.

According to O’Brien, they arrived on the south coast of Ireland in 1900 B.C., closely coinciding with the final destruction of Atlantis; its late Bronze Age date was not known in O’Brien’s time (1834). It would have been predated by at least 8000 years.

The Tuatha da Danann’s Atlantean identity is further emphasized by a philological resemblance of their name to the Tuaoi, the sacred stone of Atlantis. They may have represented the class of initiates responsible for its care or operation, as implied by O’Brien’s interpretation of their name as “almoners.” He points out that the Tuatha da Danann practiced the same religion as the Fomorach, an earlier Atlantean people who settled in Ireland at the end of the 4th millennium B.C. He competently argues that the strange, obelisk-like towers still found in Ireland were erected by the Tuatha da Danann, citing the 10th-century topic of Leccan, which tells of “the Tuathan tower.” Ruins of several such towers are found, appropriately enough, in County Roscommon, at Moy-tura, where the Tuatha da Danann decisively defeated their immediate predecessors, the Fir-Bolg. Known more correctly as Moye-tureadh, the battle-area is translated as “the Field of Towers.”

Edgar Cayce mentioned that the Tuaoi stone was set up in a special tower. Perhaps those erected in Ireland by the Tuatha da Danann (“Keepers of the Tuaoi Stone”?) were raised after their prototype in Atlantis. Ireland’s Turoe Stone, a granite omphalos,(that hasn’t been deciphered) may signify a correlation between Cayce’s Tuaoi and the Tuatha da Danann.

Interestingly, the three major cataclysms of Atlantis with their attendant migrations in the late fourth and third millennia B.C. and Late Bronze Age are respectively paralleled in Old Irish tradition of the Fomorach, Fir-Bolg, and Tuatha da Danann.

References:

The Round Towers of Ireland or THE HISTORY OF THE TUATH-DE-DANAANS, by Henry O’Brien (A.D. 1834) Published A.B. London: Whittaker and Co.

Leabhar Mór Leacain / The Book of Lecan (A.D. 1397-A.D. 1418) mentions the Tuathan tower; “Field of Towers”. Located in County Roscommon, at Moy-turan, Moye-tureadh or Moytura.

Proceedings of the Royal Irish Academy (1836-1869), Vol. 9, 1864 - W. R. Wilde; The Battle of Moytura.

Proceedings of the Royal Irish Academy (1836-1869) Vol. 10, 1866 – 1869 - W. R. Wilde; The Battle of Moytura,
Published by: Royal Irish Academy https://www.jstor.org/stable/i20488953

Edgar Cayce, reading 440-5. Edgar Cayce mentioned that the Tuaoi stone was set up in a special tower. https://becomingborealis.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/tuaoi-stone-atlantis.pdf

The Annals of Clonmacnoise; being Annals of Ireland, from the earliest period 140 A.D. to A. D. 1408. Translated into English A. D. 1627" ROYAL SOCIETY OF ANTIQUARIES OF IRELAND.

The Atlantis Encyclopaedia; (2006) by Frank Joseph. Encyclopedist Anna Franklin

[aoibhghaire]

Tuatha da Danann and Ancient Technologies.

According to O’Brien and others the Tuatha da Danann built the towers. See previous posting references.

There is evidence to show they were built before Christianity arrived. See previous postings references.

In 1996 I had the opportunity of doing research with Prof. Phil Callaghan on the ancient towers and we got some intriguing data and results that demonstrated technologies used by the Tuatha da Danann. We had a wide range of portable measuring equipment. Oscilloscopes, Gieiger counter, EMF meters, radio receiver scanners, etc. Stellarium software used as a night sky programme. The results have never been published in a peer reviewed archaeology journal. We knew it wouldn't be accepted because it wouldn't fit the archaeological consensus.

Here are the results in a nutshell without going into technical detail or explanations what this may mean:

1. The towers were arranged throughout the country that mirrored the northern constellations. The night sky around the December Solstice. The tower at Clonmacnoise was the centre one; i.e. acting as the Pole Star position from 3500 years ago.

2. Towers emit a 2000 Hz frequency within the tower. It’s a resonant cavity. i.e. interesting frequency correlation with the anesthesia line.

3. Towers have a very slight taper of three degrees similar to certain insect antennae.

4. Towers functioned as Magnetic Antenna and Radio Wave Guides.

5. One tower which is 25 metres high resonated with the 14.6 metre wavelengths coming from the night sky that is the same wavelength discovered by Karl Jansky in 1932.

6. An intriguing property displayed by detectors of radio signals is that they serve as rectifiers which covert alternating current [AC] to direct current [DC].
The properties of a DC rectifier, has the ability to detect and store incoming cosmic electromagnetic/magnetic energy, thanks to their dielectric properties. The towers
act as rectifiers.

7. The high doors found in the towers enabled the builders to fine tune the design of these Magnetic Antenna [aka Radio Wave Guides] by adjusting the amount of dirt that was used to fill the bases of the towers. Hollow resonant stone tower, which in turn was filled with the IR-paramagnetics material. This would provide a tuning adjustment

8. Although not a tower, on Skellig Michael island of Star Wars movie fame have bee hive huts. Interior measurements with a Geiger counter showed five times the ambient radiation.

We also made some other additional discoveries.

It’s interesting that the ancients did understand technologies and applied them for specific means. I recently had intriguing thoughts getting made a similar Tuaoi crystal stone based on Cayse’s technical readings and placing it at a strategic position on one of the towers. Each tower has a conical cap. From a metaphysics point of view one really needs to tap into the Tuatha da Danann to learn more knowledge how they applied these technologies. Luckily I discovered a portal zone that may provide the means of developing this further. Even RV may be useful from understanding the timelines presented at the time.

[Baby Steps]

Hi Angel,

really looking forward to hearing more!

Have heard a bit about Princess Scotia, and links between Ireland and Egypt. If Atlantis was in the Atlantic, it makes perfect sense that people went to Ireland. Graham Hancock has mentioned linguistic links between old Irish and ancient Egyptian.

Some people in Ireland are very tall and dark, so genetics linger.

[Ratszinger]

Guys I don't think she is coming back!

[Sarah Rainsong]

I hope she does. I too would like to hear more!

[aoibhghaire]

Like many here on Avalon that have an interest in the Tuatha De Danann, in particularly the Angel’s initial thread. I’m sure we are all eager to read more. I do hope she comes back and can fill in the big gap on the Tuatha De Danann.

Tuatha De Danann and current interest and connections:

Angel got me triggered again after all those years to explore further this unique civilisation. Even research I carried out back in the 1990s I wasn’t aware at the time the possible connection of the Tuatha De Danann with the Round Towers. There were nearly 100 Round Towers recorded in the Ancient Annals. 57 were destroyed in the 5th century AD due to an earthquake. I remember another researcher back in the 1990s whom told me that he had enough information to suggest there were 300 Round Towers. I did ponder on why such a high density of Round Towers. Dark Journalist has had two or three shows that go into the Tuatha De Danann. The insights of Gigi Young and the research of Walter Bosley of last year are indicators that there is some intriguing material to take note of.

Tuatha De Danann existence is real with evidence:

In order to understand the existence of Tuatha De Danann, it’s important to analyse in what context was there real existence. In order to put it in perspective we have to look at the affect early Christianity had in Ireland and its relation to previous tribes. Most ancient Christian material leaves the reality of an established civilisation evolving into a mythology, that is sponged out the existence of previous pagan tribes. Tribes that are a lessor civilisation are inferior to the invading victors. The victors can rewrite history, by obliterating material or discolouring what came before. I believe this is the case with the present pre Christian history in Ireland. It makes sense if you want to convert the existing pagan tribes after arriving.

A similar situation arose when England invaded Ireland back in the middle ages. Once the established victors got there land the history books changed sponging out the Irish people and their country. Similarly like the early Christian monks, The British created many examples of manipulating history. Two good examples is the famine in the 1840s. This was only acknowledged in 1996 as a genocide when the British prime minister apologised to the President of Ireland for this atrocity of wiping out 3 million of the population.
The recent Northern Ireland war and the propaganda presented, with a history unknown to the British public was actually an Apartheid state under the British Crown. Similar to South Africa, so it’s no surprise this exploded into violence in such modern times.

I starting researching the Spanish Phoenician historical material in order to put a framework of understanding of known pre Christian history in Spain, but more particularly the Spanish migrations to Ireland by the Phoenicians. Who are the Tuatha De Danann in relation to the Phoenicians. Once we can understand the Phoenician occupancy of Ireland then we are in a position to explore further who are Tuatha De Danann. I read a rare out of print book that is nearly 200 years old. Here were the details of each tribe that invaded Ireland over many centuries. This has been an important book to understand the many cultures over time.

PHOENICIAN IRELAND

by Auctore Doctore Joachimo Laurentio Villanueva.

Publisher: London, Longman & Co. Dublin, R. M. Timms 1833. 430 pages ( rare, out of print)

Villanueva published Phoenician Ireland, in an attempt to prove an ancient Phoenician colonization and civilisation of the country.

Villanueva was a Spanish historian who came to Ireland 1822 to spend 10 years researching for the evidence the Phoenicians were in Ireland. He had proven in Spain there had been colonies of Ancient Phoenicians in Spain. What he found in Spain strongly indicated that through language and other artefacts that the Phoenicians had travelled to Ireland. He had written and spoken Hebrew language, of which the Phoenician was a dialect, and applied the Iberno- Celtic, or rather Iberno Sanskrit, or Ancient Irish to extract information of different tribes of Phoenicians from their travels.. This enabled him to find extensive evidence that many tribes of Phoenicians over 1800 years were established in Ireland.

Villanueva discovered that the Phoenicians were a fractured race of people with a range of subcultures.

There specialisation was the transportation, with indispensable skills as navigators, and the power with which they commanded the dominion of the seas, this had the direct effect to civilizing the some of the human race, which was true in as far as they joined up by interlinking their shipping with the different parts of the world.
They merely touched at Spain on their way to Ireland from Scythia, keeping up, however, a friendly intercourse with the Spaniards after their arrival in Ireland, for the hospitable accommodation which they had experienced on their coasts.

They retained their name, Scythi, Scoti, or Scythians, until the eleventh century, when they resigned it to the Scots, a colony of their own from Ireland, and resumed, instead, one of the more ancient names of the country, viz. Ire, with the affix, land making the compound " Ireland."

The earliest race of Milesians were part of the Phoenicians tribes, were a mixed Scythian colony, implicit followers of Zoroaster and but not native Spaniards, as Villanueva admitted being—as a nation—lovers of literature, they cultivated, on the contrary, a profession—that of arms—which affected to scorn them as an effeminate luxury.

Villanueva had worked with O’Brien (Historian Scholar) on researching another race established in Ireland that were not Phoenician. This race were unique with knowledge and artefacts that suggested were far superior to the Phoenicians in science, technology, medicine and engineering. According to O’Brien they were around from 1800 BC to 1500 BC and left. O’Brien was a native Gaelic speaker and had studied Ancient Gaelic, Hebrew, Greek, Phoenician, Indian and Chinese languages. O’Brien discovered through the many ancient Annals of Ireland and the many scriptures of Asia Minor and the East that this civilisation did not fit in with any others in there research. These were known as the Tuatha De Danann.

It was 3 years later that O’Brien further researched and wrote a 600 page treatise about the Tuatha De Danann.

[Justplain]

I wonder whether the castle that Angel says she was born in was Dunluce? It backs onto the sea near Portbalintrae. It was the seat of the McDonnell clan I believe. It could also be that this was built on a more ancient site.

[Snoweagle]

I'm calling you out Angel. Baloney.

Present your evidence which I expect to be solid otherwise I'll show mine.

I believe this is yet another attempt to create another "makkee uppee" peoples of the past and sow division within a stable indigenous culture. Separation of spirit and mind.

. . . and you have "authority" . . . bs

Bring it on, the Forum is "interested" and so am I.

[aoibhghaire]

I think you may be right Justplain that Dunluce was built on a more ancient site. It has the right characteristics as Angel describes.

However, there are other possible locations in the North West of Ireland that describes similar coastal sites.

Coastal castles like Dunseverick Castle is situated in County Antrim, near the small village of Dunseverick and the Giant's Causeway. Saint Patrick is recorded as having visited Dunseverick castle in the 5th century AD. So this structure may have existed back to BC. There may have existed a previous structure going back into BC.
Other possible coastal castles are Kinbane Castle, Rathlin Castle, Audley Castle, that can all be traced back to 5th century AD. Again early structures may have been built upon existing ones into BC.

These coastal castles were built later, in particular mediaval times or later, Ballyshannon Castle, Carrickabraghy Castle, Doe Castle/Caisleán na dTuath. Again its possible to have previous structures built upon back in 5th century AD or earlier.

Existing structures at present were commonly built upon by previous inhabitants. The sites were of strategic importance. Coastal sites were common to use by other invaders. Besides the Phoenicians in much earlier centuries, later centuries you have the Vikings and there settlements.

[aoibhghaire]

I recently studied both the original book of 1834 and the later edition of 1898. (see below) These books are out of print and rare. Both books are big and I have tried to summarise mainly the new edition. Parts of the original book were censored at the time because it introduced the esoteric dynamics of Freemasonry, Sabaism and Budhism.

It demonstrates that the Tuath De Danaan were sophisticated magicians that could apply there skills on a macro scale as a collective community. These skills were of an advanced nature that suggests they may have cultivated there skills from the East. This eventually came down to the Druids in a diluted form when the Tuath-De-Danaan had existed. There are rare modern equivalents of macro scale magic applied in the eco war in Bougainvillea during the 1990s.

The Round Towers of Ireland, or the History of the Tuath-De-Danaans; O'BRIEN, Henry. London: W. & Thacker and Co., 1898. New Edition. 551 pp.

The original edition of 1834 which was published under the same title: "The Round Towers of Ireland Or, The Mysteries of Freemasonry, of Sabaism, and of Budhism for the First Time Unveiled." The author, Henry O'Brien (1808–1835) was an Irish classicist who presents his theory that the round towers of ancient Ireland were created by a phallic cult among the Tuatha Dé Danann (the main deities of pre-Christian Gaelic Ireland). O'Brien then sought to trace the origins of the towers, tracing connections between ancient Ireland and such unexpected places as Egypt, Persia, and India, and religions such as Bon,Buddhism, Hinduism, Mithraism, and various forms of phallic worship.

Tuath-De-Danaan is simply a translation or extended rendering of the latter—Tuath being a
modification of Budh, and also signifying magic; De, the vernacular term for the Deity; and Danaan signifying Almoners—the whole thus meaning Magician-god-almoners, or the Almoner-magicians of the Deity.

The Tuath-De-Danaans, or at least a portion of them (cf. p. 443), fled westward, and after many vicissitudes reached Europe, where traces of them are found in parts of Greece, Italy, and Spain; and from the country last named (by help of the Phœnicians, who were the great sea-carriers of those days), they made their way to Ireland. It is remarkable that a parallel account appears in Hindu records of the severance which took place between the Lingajas and the Yonijas on a precisely similar question’

A better clue is found in the name of the place whereon was fought the first decisive battle between the Tuath-De-Danaan invaders and the Celtic (Firbolg) inhabitants, which gave the supremacy of the island to the former. From the number of commemorative towers erected there by the conquerors, this came to be known as Moytura (in Irish, Moye-tureadh, i.e. “the field of the towers”); and as the date of the second battle, fought centuries later, is approximately b.c. 600 (p. 449), there is reason for assigning the erection of round towers to a period long preceding that of Christianity. The ascription of these towers to the Tuath-De-Danaans is in a degree warranted by the fact that the word “Tuathan-Tower” is a well-known Irish expression, and that there seems to be no other word in the language which conveys the same idea.

These proofs of an adventitious civilisation bearing the marks, not of gradual growth, but of full development, point to the colonisation of the island by a highly-cultured race, such as were the ancient people of Iran (Persia). The round towers, for instance, could not well have been the work of the Phœnicians, who were a maritime and mercantile race, by no means prone to arts and letters, and in none of whose admitted settlements is any trace of similar buildings to be found. Neither the Firbolgs (or Celtic inhabitants of Ireland), nor the Fomorians, nor the Scythians, Scoto-Milesians, nor Danish invaders, were at all given to the refinements of civilisation, and simply regarded the construction of permanent buildings as unworthy of a race of warriors. Everything, in fact, goes to show that the Tuath-De-Danaan settlers alone could have erected these towers, introduced the Boreadan ceremonial, and given to the country of their adoption a name taken from that of their native land.

Upon historical evidence, the date of this invasion is fixed at b.c. 1002; while it is agreed on all hands that the Tuath-De-Danaans had landed about two hundred years before, or b.c. 1202, which latter date exactly corresponds with that given by most Oriental authorities for the exodus of the Buddhists from India. About this time, indeed, Ireland seems to have borne the character of an Oriental asylum—a circumstance to which may be attributed the Eastern costumes and aspect of the figures depicted in its ancient sculptures, the Eastern character of traditional religious and ceremonial usages, and the national reverence for the shamrock, corresponding with that shown to the trefoil (or trisula) in Persia (Iran).

The duration of Tuath-De-Danaan supremacy may have been some six centuries, dating from the first battle of Moytura, in b.c. 1202 (p. 435), to the second battle, in or about b.c. 600, between the Firbolgs, or Celts (who had been gradually reasserting themselves), and a reinforcement of Tuath-De-Danaans, coming this time, not from Persia, but from India, where they had been expelled by the Brahmins (p. 443).

The relics of Tuath-De-Danaan occupation, which exist in the shape of gigantic crosses, and of sculptured ornamentation in which cross-symbolism is prominent, point to a mystery far more esoteric than that involved in the Christian emblem.

Serpent-worship is perhaps the most significant form of Sabaism, involving, as it does, the expression of its source. For in the sacred language of Iran, whereof Irish is the leading type, the word Sabh (the root of Sabaism) has three distinct, yet connected, meanings—(1) Voluptuousness, or the Yoni; (2) a Snake, or sinuosity; (3) Death. Through all these runs the central idea of sexual relation, which, as the most elementary part of social life, has been symbolised all over the world in connection with religion. O'Brien disposes of the argument in favour of the Christian origin of these towers, which is based upon the assumption that remains of Christian churches are invariably found in their vicinity, by adducing an instance to the contrary (at Giant’s Ring, County Down).

In my field research of some of the round towers I found that there were Sheela na gigs at the entrance. The sexual nature of Sheela na gig connection would be one of fertility. In a previous post on the field work with Prof. Phil Callaghan, we measured a 2000 Hz frequency. This frequency is tuned to the anesthetic line. However, that frequency was strong at the interior top of the tower. We theorized that this may be a special chamber supporting the numbing in the labour process. The frequency within this resonant cavity of the tower was consistent for such a process to take place.

We also analysed the soil at different points radially displaced from the tower outwards. We measured high frequencies close to the tower and low frequencies as we measured further out. We observed that the grass was bigger near the tower than as you walked away from it.

[aoibhghaire]

MYTHS and MAGIC of the Tuatha de Danaans:

In history, it makes sense why we know so little about the Tuatha de Danaans. It was because those who took down the legends from the mouths of the bards and annalists, or those who subsequently transcribed them, were Christian missionaries, whose object was to obliterate every vestige of the ancient forms of faith. The distortion of truth about these singular, foreign people makes it so difficult to understand who or what they were; to us they seem always enveloped in a sort of Druidic fog, so that we may class them with men, heroic demi-gods, or gods themselves, according to our fancy. The archaeologists thereby can’t entertain the notion that these were real historical times when some civilisations were using magic on a collective scale.

For example, according to the Book of Invasions from the Irish ANNALS OF THE FOUR MASTERS (12th Century) about the description of the Tuatha de Danaans, one can understand the powers they had when confronting there enemies.

p. 113

"By the force of potent spells and wicked magic
And conjurations horrible to hear,
Could set the ministry of hell at work,
And raise a slaughtered army from the earth,
And make them live, and breathe, and fight again.
Few could their arts withstand, or charms unbind."
supernatural race who held marvellous powers and skills.

The Tuatha Dé Danann were the defenders of the woods, and the keepers of its deepest secrets.
Their skills of camouflage, ambushes and sneaking are legendary thus making their enemies think twice before entering the darkness of Tuathan woods. Ref: Irish ‘Annals of the Four Masters’

Tuatha's power refuses to use fire due to its chaotic and destructive properties, anathema to the forests they have sworn to protect.

LOST CONNECTION WITH NATURE

Because people have lost the true connection with nature, in particular, unaware of the power they have with using co creative tools in their lives they have to see this kind of life through fiction. What is displayed as fiction in books, education, TV, cinema, etc are an exaggerated form of dynamics. Miracles by initiates in some of the religious scriptures may be treated by many as god like figures where the witnesses don’t have the where for all to apply these methods. This has been demonstrated so often historically through myths and legends with the intentional objective to obliterate every vestige of the ancient forms of magic. This is particular so with the early Christianity. This disempowers people usurping the consciousnesses into a belief that is not natural. This has resulted in today’s circumstances on Earth. Tuatha Dé Danann may be back in ancient times, but there are modern day pockets of these versions of this power.

(see PA. Avatar 2 and Bougainvillea Eco war, Part 3)

RESPONSIBILITY OF USING ‘POWER’

Tuatha Dé Danann had a responsibility and discipline using there ‘powers’. This is a perception by others as witnessing these ‘powers’. It would appear to be a what we define as power, but actually its there developed education and knowledge of using the university of nature. The partnership with nature provided the potential of supporting not only them as a race but also the Earth as a balanced system. This is the potential to connect with nature by every human being on Earth.

One has to be very careful and clear what initiative and responsibility you take with applying different tools for change because you may be at the mercy of what’s out there. What unknowns are going to manifest, etc. If you don’t have a clear definition, a clear direction and a clear purpose in its intent it may have the aspirations of what you desire but not the right intents. It opens up to wide range of manifestations that are similar in principle too when dealing with paranormal events but now on a macro scale.

Because the mechanistic approach doesn’t entertain within the equation of nature’s inherent characteristics of being in balance, it will create manifestations that are not what humans are expecting.

Their isn’t the education and therefore understanding in our civilisation of how to balance this process. Nature knows nothing but balance. Humans may not be balanced when applying initiatives of this nature to changing the dynamics, which can create other manifestations that are ‘out of whack’.

(see PA. Avatar 2 and Bougainvillea Eco war, Part 3)
New AVATAR 2 Movie and Bougainvillea Eco War

It explains the responsibility of using dynamics and tools in modern times. It also explains how to apply them in modern times.

[gord]

PHOENICIAN IRELAND

by Auctore Doctore Joachimo Laurentio Villanueva.

Publisher: London, Longman & Co. Dublin, R. M. Timms 1833. 430 pages ( rare, out of print)


https://archive.org/search.php?query=phoenician%20ireland

[Justplain]

Aoibhghaire, your information is very interesting. Of particular interest is the referencing of the migration of the Tuath de Daan in the Vedic records. However, in some of the Dark Journalist discussions on the Tuath DeDaan, he seems to believe that they are a surviving clan from Atlantis. He thinks that this is the same clan as the Israeli tribe that spawned Sampson, indicating the use of magic in Sampson's adventures. Daniel Leist, DJ, suggested that Sampson's tribe lived on boats and did not continue on as tribe of Israel because they wouldn't embrace the 'one God' and abandon magic.

Now this may all fit into a timeline where the Tuath de Daan left Atlantis at the fall and migrated to India.

It would be fascinating to hear Angel's take on all this.

[Billy]

MYTHS and MAGIC of the Tuatha de Danaans:


For example, according to the Book of Invasions from the Irish ANNALS OF THE FOUR MASTERS (12th Century) about the description of the Tuatha de Danaans, one can understand the powers they had when confronting there enemies.

p. 113

"By the force of potent spells and wicked magic
And conjurations horrible to hear,
Could set the ministry of hell at work,
And raise a slaughtered army from the earth,
And make them live, and breathe, and fight again.
Few could their arts withstand, or charms unbind."
supernatural race who held marvellous powers and skills.

The Tuatha Dé Danann were the defenders of the woods, and the keepers of its deepest secrets.
Their skills of camouflage, ambushes and sneaking are legendary thus making their enemies think twice before entering the darkness of Tuathan woods. Ref: Irish ‘Annals of the Four Masters’

Tuatha's power refuses to use fire due to its chaotic and destructive properties, anathema to the forests they have sworn to protect.

Many thanks for sharing your research and knowledge aoibhghaire, it is very much appreciated.
I read a book many years ago titled Sun and Cross, by Jakob Streit where he writes about the development from megalithic culture to early Christianity in Ireland.

He says when the Romans reached Ireland in 300AD + to convert the natives to Christianity, the Romans were surprised to see a long established Celtic Christianity already existed. Even more surprising were the Egyptian Christian priests who lived amongst the Celtic Priests. priests had the choice to marry if they wished, there were also Christian priestesses.
They lived in stone built communities and yes they liked their stone towers.
43668

A question.
Do you think the Druids are descended from the Tuatha de Danaans?

Here is a wee song from the book of invasions album from 1970s, enjoy.
tfQ-FiiQDMo

[aoibhghaire]

Gord: Thank you for the links to other old material relating to inward races and migration of the
Phœnicians. Although my focus is on the Tuatha De Danaans, I have had to explore for other material that may support this civilisation from other scripts translated from Phœnician.

Justplain: The two characteristics that support this Tuatha De Danaans civilisation are the application of super magic powers as a collective. I discovered from my adventures in Bougaineville that modern day community tribe of this nature do carry out what we attribute to super magic as a collective. (See thread Avatar 2 and Bougaineville Eco war Part 3)

The transmissions of this collective magic are not told to journalist, archaeologists, curiosity seekers, tourists, etc. They are not ready to 'hear' or be interested following through to investigate due to the problem of integrating this reality. If you haven’t a wide experiential of a larger reality in your life, then this is not for you. Its rather like people that are curious meeting a spiritual avatar but not ready to open up to an integrated experience that may change and highly benefit there life. It can be uncomfortable to make a change in your life.

To truly understand the BRA in part 3 of the thread Avatar 2 and Bougaineville Eco war, you would have had to gift the tribe and link in with them in an effort to genuinely help them. The level they operate at is at a resonant frequency that can differentiate what your agenda is. Hence most organisations had the wrong agenda, not understanding the real agenda of the BRA, BRA denied any substantial bribes that came there way.

The high knowledge as compared to other civilisations at the time in western Europe suggests that they attained this knowledge from some other ancient civilisation. Its possible that this may have evolved from Atlantis then India and pockets of the middle East.

Billy:

I think the Druids may have descended from the Tuatha De Danaans. The previous civilisation before the Tuatha De Danaans arrived were unaware of the application of sophisticated use of magic. When the Tuatha De Danaan disappeared there were possibly some descendants over time making use of magic. I suspect it wasn’t on the macro scale as there ancestors. The Druids had similar characteristics as their predecessors. Guardian’s of the forest, the oak trees which were growing throughout Ireland and the use of the coded Ogham language.

This was recognised by the Greek scriptures. There students were sent to Ireland to train in the art of magic. The Romans were aware about the magic of the Druids from the Greeks. The Romans had a token settlement on the Irish coast for only trade purposes. The Romans may have been concerned not to invade Ireland due to the power of the Druids The Romans had learnt a lot from the Druidic practices in Gaul in their previous invasions.

[Ratszinger]

My grandmother on my mother's side was a proud O'Neill of northern Ireland. She talked of stories told to her about the days of old when women spent most of their days brewing herbs, and potions many of which when ingested brought on desired 'effects' and these could be any number of things. Grandmother told of tales of men having problems with other men and offering great amounts of money to the local witch to cast a spell to make the person yield to do whatever, sell them the land they wanted or the sheep or you know it could be anything. Often times this was simply knowing what to use to achieve and end. Say oh, what to put in the well water to poison the well so the land is no longer good for the sheep so the person is now motivated to sell the land and then of course the new owner who thinks he got the land for a deal since it had bad water now comes back to the witch wanting the water restored. No problem at all, for a price! So grandmother said it was very common for the witches to be both loved and hated in all communities just because of this behavior and it was this behavior of being paid for using their knowing for bad things that got them into trouble. This is where the practice of "Black Magic" comes from. The same art is practiced in the stories in the bible by Abraham on Pharaoh. Sarah was taught in the same things as others of her people from an early age and would have known exactly what to put into the food to make people ill. They would know exactly what to put in water to turn it red and their knowledge of the stars and astrology and astronomy would allow them to know and see and predict larger cycles of events like locust swarms, seasonal floods and more. Not so much magic as just knowing something others don't commonly know. A lot of it is simple chemistry.

All the women in my family on my mother's side all have Jackdaws or birds of some sort. They all have these 'relationships' with birds no one else has. My sister Tina in particular. I mean wild birds have been known to just land on her shoulder and stuff like this. Plus she has one always. And it's smart! Oh my! Our most famous ancestor is Molly Leigh who died 357 years ago. On my father's side his family tree goes way back to a long list of occultists going back to the Magi of the biblical types and in courts all through Europe into Russia. We originally stem from the Milesians which is best explained in the genealogy of the Geoghegan clan, which takes the Magogites from Adam to the Milesian clans in Ireland of recent centuries. Appendix 1 of this series is extremely helpful in understanding their history. Stemming from earlier lines settled after the flood according to grandmother and the inheritance of Japheth was thus all of Europe and the Asian mainland north of the mouth of the River Don and what is America today also if grandmother was correct. She said so. It was probably true.

[Baby Steps]

Theres a similar tower on Scotland -the pencil at Largs


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[aoibhghaire]

This thread on Tuatha da Danann (corrected spelling here from title thread) expanded into much research and findings about two years ago. The missing part is the metaphysics research. I knew we had to really tap into the Tuatha da Danann to learn more knowledge from them, how they lived here. What did they do here? Why come to Ireland?

About one year later I was in contact with a close friend of mine who has an uncanny and accurate means of finding information. I had worked with my friend on many other projects in the past that bore fruit. The method my friend uses is a 4 point coning for a conference call with other intelligences via nature intelligence. This is based on a partnership with nature intelligence with a definition, direction and purpose. My friend carried out the communications at the location known where the Tuatha resided as a community.

Here follows the result from my friend's communications. It was interesting and unexpected information. It also aligned to some degree with my research findings. So in another sense it wasn't a surprise.

Tuatha de Danaan
4-4-2021

I'd like to open a 4-pt coning to learn about the Tuatha de Danaan, that's aligned to my source connection, and relevant particularly to Ireland and to Aoibhghaire's research.

Are Tuatha de Danaans human? YES

Are they a native race to this planet? No

Do they have humans' best interests at heart? YES

Are they cooperating with negative high frequency beings? No

Are they still present here on earth? No

Were they previously physically present here on earth? YES

Do they desire closer contact with humans here now? No

What sets them apart from other groups of humans? Appearance, characteristics, talents, interests
Did they leave earth of their own volition? YES

Why? Earth's vibration was dropping too much

What are their interests? Working with nature to create new kinds of beings and environments

Is there something it would be helpful for humans here now, to learn from them? YES, Many things.
Such as? Communication. Care. Working with nature.

Are there reliable sources of information about these groups? YES—this is a good way, better than books

Did they interact with other human races and cultures in the past? YES, quite a bit in some cases.

Were these interactions mainly cooperative? No, they were not understood by other human races and cultures, they were too different.

Does this coning include any Tuatha de Danaan? YES

Is there something about Tuatha's approaches to Communication that would be helpful to understand now? One can be “louder” without using one's outer voice at all, depending on how much one can focus the message. Outer voice was used mostly with outsiders—other human groups.

Was there interaction with negative high frequency beings? No, we were not impacted by them. Our frequency was too high, and our embodiment was very strong.

What can you say about the Tuatha's approaches to Care? Generally—for you—more gentleness can be most effective, yet at times more strictness and strength [image of propping a plant up straight to support it]. It's about paying careful attention to what kind of strength or softness is needed for any situation. It's not one size fits all.

What can you say about your work with nature? It is much broader and deeper, and extends far beyond just this planet. We coordinated with others elsewhere, to determine what to do here on earth. For example, if a certain kind of being or animal was needed, we worked directly [with nature] to provide what was needed and everything in the environment to support it.

Were Tuatha particularly connected to Ireland? No, it's just that some myths/stories survive.

Would it be helpful to continue this communication? No, not particularly. It is better to focus on what is in front of you and not try to reach into the past. You have what you need.

Thank you. And likewise.

Is there anything you would like to add before I close this coning? No.