Covid19: the coming psycho-social transition

[Kryztian]

Is COVID-19 a conspiracy? Was this virus intentionally created or released to have the negative effects it is having on world civilization? Did a group of people decide what restrictions on human movement and human freedom would be politically mandated? Did someone trained at the Tavistock Institute invent the term “social distancing” and come up for a plan to popularize the term? Was there a week by week, month by month study on how social isolation and self quarantine would impend on human society, on human consciousness, at different places around the world? Were there studies on the economic and political consequences? Did a small group of people attending the last Bilderberg meeting in Montreux, Switzerland convene in a secret conference room and after reviewing these studies, plan a release date of January 2020 in China? Or did this meeting take place in a Freemasons' Hall in London, at the Church of the Gesù in Rome, in an underground bunker at the Cheyenne Mountain complex in Colorado?

The simple fact is, I don’t know. And you probably don’t either, unless you were at one of the people at these meetings (if they indeed happened) or got to read the minutes, and if that’s the case, you know that this information is under even stricter quarantine than any deadly virus sample in any lab on this planet. Even if this virus has its origins in a government laboratory, it may have been released by one individual or a small group of anarchists or terrorists, not by an international globalist cabal. It may very well that that the Bilderberg insiders, the Anglo-Saxon mission people, et alia, are scratching there heads saying: “Oh, this throws a wrench in our plans.” Or perhaps, everything is right on schedule. We just don’t know.

But what we do know is that this virus, and the reaction to it, the restrictions that are being placed upon our lives, are going to have a long term effect on society and human behavior and human freedom. If we put on our futurist thinking caps, there are real questions that can be answered:


How will this affect our economy, as some businesses close, and others (e.g. Amazon is hiring a hundred thousand (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/amazon-hiring-100000-warehouse-workers-amid-coronavirus-boom/) more for poverty level wages doing back breaking work) are skyrocketing? What happens when tenants can’t pay their rent, and landlords can’t pay their mortgages? (Let me guess Goldman Sachs isn’t going to have to hold off on foreclosing or suffer any losses.)


How will human interactions change now that humanity sees itself as a chain of potential virus transmitters? Will physical gatherings such as classrooms meetings, church services, museum exhibitions, musical concerts, political rallies, public restaurants and bar, cease to exist? How will this change social dynamics and the human psyche?


Will humans unify in their society as they sometimes do in times of crisis, or will not division form as those focuses on preventing the spread of diseases from human to human come into conflict with those concerned about the financial and psychic cost of doing so?


Will the powers that be suddenly reveal a new technologic solution to make “everybody” on “both sides of the fence” happy - for instance, more public screenings of body temperature and mandatory health check stations, combined with tracking devices that keep a database of your movement history to show whoever you came in contact with so those people can be instantly located and warned?


What I am really interesting in hearing about is what trends do you see happening now and where is that taking us a civilization here on planet earth. How will the powers that be try and shape these trends to there advantage, and how can humanity turn this to their advantage?

[Delight]

I will say what I would like to see in my world.

1. I will see us not taken hostage by the fear of ill health which MUST be repaired by a complex technocratic medical system.
1a. I will see us being unafraid of death so we cannot be taken hostage by that concern.
1b. People will understand now that the poisoning of the environment must stop.
1c. People will learn about the immune system and how to create health from the inside out.
2. I will see Tulsi Gabbard elected President of the USA in November 2020
3. I will see a back lash in May where millions of us storm Washington demanding the return to a Constitutional based government.
4. I will see sudden insight on everyone's part that we really cannot support the faux system of stocks as the value of our economy.
5. I will see the realization that the wars we have been waging must end.
6. I will see No matter where the threat of a virus originated, we MUST end research on biological warfare.
7. I will see Millions of people wake up and refuse to go along with totalitarian use of the crisis.

[Kryztian]

One trend that we are seeing that is highly revealing: alcohol sales are skyrocking.


Coronavirus-hit NYC sees online alcohol sales thrive
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/online-booze-coronavirus-nyc
As big businesses around the country shut their doors because of the coronavirus pandemic, a smaller group of stores is booming in New York City. Many of them sell booze online.

Online alcohol brand Drizly’s said it had its best day ever in terms of sales was Sunday. The sales beat orders for New Year’s Eve and Halloween, “which are usually our most popular days,” a representative for the company told the New York Post. At Minibar Delivery, on the other hand, sales were up 80 percent week-over-week compared to the previous Thursday.

“As people start to social distance,” Minibar Delivery co-founder and CEO, Lindsey Andrews, told the Post, “they are stocking up on all things including alcohol.”

Not just online retailers, but liquor stores are doing well too, some reporting a 150% increase in sales. The main stream media is reporting that since restaurants and bar are either forcibly closed, or just have fewer patrons, that people are replacing their public consumption of alcohol with private consumption. I don’t think that tells the real story and something far more sinister is happening.

People drink alcohol for various reasons and the reasons they drink in public are often different from those that explain why they drink in private. Public/social drinkers drink because they are celebrating, socializing, enjoying good food that pairs well with alcoholic beverages, etc. For many of them, they do not drink when they are home. This might be because they don’t enjoy drinking alone, or because they know that a distinction between public and private drinking is what keeps them from descending into alcoholism.

Social interaction is also what keeps some former alcoholics from drinking. Most churches are now closed and since these are the most common venues for AA meetings, assumably, these meetings have ceased too. And reformed alcoholics also rely on not just nightly meetings but other social interactions they have all day long to keep themselves sane and sober.

And many people are driven to drink because of their home life. Many can cope with the pressures of their marriage, relationship or with parenting only because they get to leave home for five days of the week for most of the daylight hours. Now, if their home life is unpleasant, it is a 24 hour 7 day per week prison.

In our attempts to prevent a COVID-19 health epidemic, we are fueling the epidemic of addiction.

[Delight]

One thing we really HAVE to do and I asked it elsewhere... Can we all become comfortable with the possible extreme death idea? It will determine how assertive we can be in challenging the staus quo. I am OK. This issue means a choice because.....


Will The Costs Of A Great Depression Outweigh The Risks Of Coronavirus?
Federal and state governments are making a massive gamble about a little-understood new virus. They are betting our future on the most extreme worst-case scenario without considering the costs. (https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/18/will-the-costs-of-a-great-depression-outweigh-the-risks-of-coronavirus/)

Federal and state governments are making a massive gamble about a little-understood new virus. They may not only be betting our entire economy, but our nation’s future. Thus it’s imperative that they not make foolish choices.

We shouldn’t allow policy under a Republican president to be driven by a Democrat like Steve Mnuchin, whose overwhelming priority is reassuring Wall Street above all else. Voters don’t vote for Donald Trump to get Obama-Bush bailouts of Wall Street and welfare expansions.

The current gamble seems to be to shut down the nation indefinitely to suppress a virus that is especially deadly to some demographics and experts agree cannot be contained, only slowed. The New York Times claims the basis of many U.S. officials’ decisions so far is a report from Imperial College London, and other models that spit out similar results. It says to contain the virus it will be necessary to quarantine Americans for two- to three-month stretches repeatedly over the next 18 months.

The alternative, says the report, is 4 million Americans dead, half who would otherwise have lived but instead die for lack of medical capacity such as ventilators. If we merely quarantine sick people and those at risk, a “mitigation” strategy, it projects the U.S. death toll at about 2 million, again half from lack of ventilators, not depth of disease (continued)

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This is why state governors are shutting down restaurants, schools, entertainment venues, government offices, parks, historical sites, churches, and travel. Most Americans and businesses likely can sustain a suspension of their lives for two weeks, the usual annual vacation time.

But start extending these bans to one and two months, and then to four and six months, and people are going to revolt as they sit chained to their houses, watching their jobs, businesses, and retirement accounts disappear, replaced with funny money taken from yet-unborn generations and no end in sight. Numerous people are already skeptical and fed up with the lockdowns, and we’re not a week in.
Computer Estimates Can’t Weigh All of the Real Risks

Plus, these are just estimates, not a crystal ball. We can’t know the future, and different countries have already shown highly different disease spreads based on different population characteristics, health care capacity, and government response.

Just one competing projection, from the Hoover Institution, suggests “the total number of cases world-wide will peak out at well under 1 million, with the total number of deaths at under 50,000″ (emphasis added). This is near the annual death rate due to flu in the United States alone. We don’t know if that estimate is accurate either, but that’s the point.

Here’s another hysteria skeptic with impeccable medical and statistical knowledge, John P.A. Ioannidis, a professor of medicine, epidemiology, and statistics at Stanford University and co-director of Stanford’s Meta-Research Innovation Center.

If we assume that case fatality rate among individuals infected by SARS-CoV-2 is 0.3% in the general population — a mid-range guess from my Diamond Princess analysis — and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected (about 3.3 million people), this would translate to about 10,000 deaths. This sounds like a huge number, but it is buried within the noise of the estimate of deaths from ‘influenza-like illness.’ If we had not known about a new virus out there, and had not checked individuals with PCR tests, the number of total deaths due to ‘influenza-like illness’ would not seem unusual this year. At most, we might have casually noted that flu this season seems to be a bit worse than average. The media coverage would have been less than for an NBA game between the two most indifferent teams.
Some worry that the 68 deaths from Covid-19 in the U.S. as of March 16 will increase exponentially to 680, 6,800, 68,000, 680,000 … along with similar catastrophic patterns around the globe. Is that a realistic scenario, or bad science fiction?

We’re acting as if coronavirus is for sure going to amount to the worst-case scenario without knowing that is true. If we all do shelter in place for the next year and a half while politicians pass the equivalent of the Obama-Bush stimulus that suffocated the economy 12 years ago, the “experts” will insist the nation’s long-term ability to provide for itself was required to save millions of lives. There will be no way to prove them wrong, even if they are.

It seems a fool’s errand to pre-emptively and indefinitely risk everyone’s livelihoods without hard information about what is happening and a risk assessment that includes the serious dangers of killing the U.S. economy, not what computers project will happen with lots of missing, unreliable, and rapidly changing information.
Some Things We Do Know Indicate Cautious Optimism

The current numbers we have not only show that different countries are managing the disease better and worse, but that not one of the countries further along in the spread of the virus is anywhere close yet to indicating these apocalyptic numbers for the United States, at least in the next two to three months.

Here is a chart my husband made using WHO, CDC, and other public data about deaths per day of outbreak. It shows the U.S. death rate due to Wuhan flu is much lower at the same stage of the outbreak than most of the other high-spread countries.

[Michi]

Something untold must be going on behind this covid19 crisis. I expressed that in my recent post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110242-Economic-and-Financial-Prognostications-Trends-and-Data-2020&p=1341253&viewfull=1#post1341253).

I am not claiming that the virus isn't lethal or problematic but if one compares this with deaths of other diseases, (or the fact that there are far more children dying per day than people die from the corona virus) it is nevertheless odd, why this so much propagandized.

I am personally aren't so much concerned about catching the virus, mostly because I take sound pre-cautions which are extensively described in relevant threads. (And thank you so much for the valuable data, like colloidal silver, oregano oil and many more.)

I am more worried of the consequences of governmental policies and restrictions for "the good of mankind".

[Dennis Leahy]

I welcome your perspective on this, Bill. What are your thoughts at this point?

(mods, this post could/should be deleted. It only made sense right after Bill started the topic but had not yet added his thoughts (sort of a pregnant pause), and my post followed his. There were then posts merged in and Bill's opening post (that I was responding to) was deleted. So, this post is moot now.)

[helium]

We're wary about starting too many new coronavirus threads — because then folks may get confused about where best to post new items, and some of that is understandably happening already. As some will have noticed, we're already merged some new threads like that with the 'main' thread.

But clearly when considering this enormous issue, we also need to start thinking ahead, as well as retrospectively; hence this new thread. (The suggestion was made in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-Covid-19-the-Honey-Badger-virus&p=1341728&highlight=proper#post1341728) by new member helium (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?46290-helium), who we're delighted to have joined us and is quite a talented polymath.)


I'm pretty burnt out today, but this thread is going to be a go to place for me to post tomorrow. Thanks so much, Bill. The perfect topic title was right under my nose!

[Tam]

The darkest times bring out the best and worst in humanity.

With all of the bleak news regarding this damned catastrophe, and the media focusing on hoarders, testing shortages, and triages, here's an example of people doing it right:

https://apnews.com/bda9c1ed0f8e10742ad2feabb2d52aa2

Maintaining positivity is critical, in my opinion.

Maybe this warrants its own thread, since it's off-topic, but I figured I'd share. We may come out stronger and more unified from this, as we all are forced to reassess what we value, how we treat one another, and how fragile the peace we all take for granted is. It will also allow us to come face-to-face with the systemic abuse we have been putting up with for far too long, from corporations and governments alike.

[Cognitive Dissident]

WE'RE ALL GONNA-- oh, wait, hang on. Thanks Bill for this new thread, and might I just say that the name of this thread would be a great name for a rock band (h/t Dave Barry).

Levity is important in these times, I think. I was going to start a new thread looking at the reactions to the COVID-19 virus and what are the implications for UFO disclosure (spoiler alert: it's tricky), but this thread will probably work better.

No time to write much more unfortunately, so I will just leave with this quote from Schopenhauer which I think is very appropriate to the current situation - together, of course, with the unattributed quote "denial ain't just a river in Egypt":

“All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.”

In relation to the virus itself, we are between stages 2 and 3. However, in relation to the consequential changes, we are at stage 1, although behind the scenes many plans for total surveillance and a cashless society are being accelerated on the basis that frightened people will accept anything when the alternative is "WE'RE ALL GONNA--"

That's fairly clear even now, and that is the great danger that we have to be aware of and fight against.

Anyone has thoughts on other factors at work, hopefully positive ones, please add. I know this is a time of evolving human consciousness on Earth, and that's why I agreed to come here again this time ("WHY? WHY? OH MY GOD W--"), but it would be nice to get some more clarity on this kinda right about now...

[wttah]

Transition - The Rosicrucians use the word as a synonym for death.

So the death of the old order and the birth of a new order?

Building something new on the ashes of the old?

Continuing the cycle of light and darkness?

Or does one side step the cycles?

Edit:

Hmmm, not much meat in my post above.

We're all watching the chaos all around us. Like a storm, all we can do is shelter until it blows over,then we can continue on.

Just personal philosophy here.

It is said we live in a three dimensional world. I disagree.

Look at the cube, length X width X height - 3D.

Look again, there are two more dimensions we missed. Inside and outside. Add time/motion to give six dimensions in all - a 6D world.

Our home has inside and outside. Our world, and the world outside.

The self has six dimensions, me and everyone else - inside and outside.

If our town is locked down, we can weed the garden, teach the children to boil an egg, mend their clothes, we can clean the inside of our home.

The lock down is an opportunity to set our home on order.

But what of the world we live in? The outside?

The conflict outside will rage until the forces are spent. When bullets fly one keeps one's head down. Of course we can join the violence if we choose.

Whatever comes, we will have to live within that society.

If a paradigm shift we can join in the new, or not.

Or we can help rebuild the bits we like, ignore the bits we don't.

Perhaps there is an opportunity here to think for ourselves. To think new things.

In farming and Nature, monoculture sickens and dies.

In farming and Nature diversity builds health and life.

What I am saying is to think for ourselves in this time of rebirth. Diversity and new opportunity will then arise.

[Bill Ryan]

Also see this thread:


Economic and Financial Prognostications, Trends, and Data, 2020 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110242-Economic-and-Financial-Prognostications-Trends-and-Data-2020)

[TomKat]

Something untold must be going on behind this covid19 crisis. I expressed that in my recent post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110242-Economic-and-Financial-Prognostications-Trends-and-Data-2020&p=1341253&viewfull=1#post1341253).

I am not claiming that the virus isn't lethal or problematic but if one compares this with deaths of other diseases, (or the fact that there are far more children dying per day than people die from the corona virus) it is nevertheless odd, why this so much propagandized.

I am personally aren't so much concerned about catching the virus, mostly because I take sound pre-cautions which are extensively described in relevant threads. (And thank you so much for the valuable data, like colloidal silver, oregano oil and many more.)

I am more worried of the consequences of governmental policies and restrictions for "the good of mankind".

Some of the things that go on today have me baffled also. I wonder if there is another timeline with an ACTUAL deadly pandemic, and we are only getting a mild reflection of that pandemic in our timeline? I started wondering this after Trump became president and Hillary's plan for war with Russia was killed. So in lieu of a war with Russia, we had Russiagate, which made no sense, but it was perhaps a milder version of the other timeline.

[apokalypse]

so much **** going on now...Russian use facial recognition, Force Vaccine in Denmark and UK among other country talked about obtaining location data...really ****ed up and expected this **** to came out.

[RogeRio]

I'm thinking the possibility of the wordwide maneuvers to close borders and social isolation because of coronavirus aim to isolate China to drastically reduce the trade of chinese cheap products everywhere.

it's just a silly hunch here with myself, without relevance now.

[helium]

Well, I spent the day writing and for the first time in months didn't look at any webpages for updates. Then this evening took a look at the regular honeybadger thread and whoa!! Fear porn galore. Looks like there's some truth to the troop deployment in US. But I can't get behind Mike Adams' stuff these past couple of days. Seems he's gone way over the top. Maybe the psycho-social aspects of this will get even more interesting. Sheesh. Take your eye off the ball for one second and it's a whole new ballgame? Chris Martenson reported huge numbers of new unemployment claims. Very sobering. California governor is freaking out. Seems like some cat got out of the bag overnight. Just when I thought I could relax. It's been a wild ride since early January rumors got me started.

[Sue (Ayt)]

This blog post by Miles Mathis surely fits here in this thread, with his take on the Psycho-Social transition.


I keep going back to Neil Degrasse Tyson admitting to Steven Colbert this corona fake is a test on the Late Show. “A test to see if we will believe scientists.” Sorry, Neil, I fail that one with a score of zero. I don't trust you or Steven at all. In fact, I don't even believe you are a real scientist. I think you are just an actor reading from Teleprompters. But there is one thing I know for sure: no one pushing this coronahoax deserves the name of scientist, no matter what degrees he may have or what chair he may inhabit.

But that is not why I am here today. I am here because watching that clip made me realize how utterly lost these people like Tyson, Colbert, and those feeding them scripts really are. To see them smiling broadly and saying this stuff to canned applause was like watching damned spirits running gleefully through the gates of Hell. Because, yes, Neil, this is a test, but it isn't a test by you and your cabal on us unwashed masses, to see what level of your lies we will buy this month. It is a test UPON YOU, one that you aren't even aware you are taking.

All of life is a test, for everyone alive. We are all writing our own stories day by day, and the form those stories take determine the advancement of our spirits. So as the governors write these grand fictions, they aren't only trying to determine your response, for their greater profit and control, they are unwittingly writing their own life stories, where they have accepted the role of bad guy. They appear to think it all doesn't matter, since life is a stage anyway, where the bad guy is the best role—besides being the most profitable one. But in thinking this way they have trapped themselves in this lowest level of thought and existence, ignoring the level above that. This is a grave error, because the level above determines the value of everything at their level. Being trapped in this lowest level, they think value is determined by bank accounts or mundane authority, but it isn't. Value is determined by spiritual enrichment: has the story you have written about yourself made you a bigger, better person, or has it made you a smaller, nastier person?
Much more continued at the link: Yes, this is a Test (http://mileswmathis.com/test.pdf)

[helium]

I'm thinking that the psycho-social transition has turned into a psychotic social transition. Maybe there's no going back, and there will be no 'transition' into anything resembling order (let alone a higher order) until those asteroids wipe out the dinosaur dictators and the Pacific heals itself through time or maybe alien intervention. A couple of days ago it seemed like there would be a nice vacation followed by some real austerity that would do everyone good in the long run. I was wondering how far into that forced vacation we would get until efforts were made to halt the positive aspects of it with some sort of new fear-porn garbage event. Well, it took one day and here we are, well into psychosis. Militaries mobilized, china demonized, euro countries blaming everyone but themselves for their mistakes (which likely were not mistakes but premeditation instead). And increased talk here of the Anlgo-Saxon Mission instead of moving away from it to more productive subjects. Not that Mission-speak is not productive when it's put into context. But it does seem that when fear goes up, Mission-theory gains a few more followers.

I'd like to see more practical plans being made. But to me, right now, practical would involve everyone on the planet who could pass the Avalon test simply abandoning this reality until it's time to return and sweep up the carcasses of those who failed. Then we could talk of something positive in terms of a transition. At this point any dialogue re: the coming psycho-social transition will be focused on fear. The only way I can speak positively at this time is to speak about what I began writing about a few days ago, and that is trauma counseling. I didn't think anyone would want to read that stuff so I didn't post it.

Maybe volatility is the name of the game, at least for the short term. Maybe volatility is all there is remaining.

Oooh. I'm ranting this morning . . .

[Delight]

Maybe volatility is the name of the game, at least for the short term. Maybe volatility is all there is remaining.


A Tale of Two (and more) "Realities"

I went out and bought garden supplies today. The spa I work in is finally going to close Monday through Friday but is going off of clients numbers for the weekend. I won't be working because I don't like the idea of massage if there is the need for social distancing.

trump is already back pedaling his promises about short term money for individuals (as per his news conference I heard last pm). helium said that there is doubt in his mind that they even WANT a containment, mitigation and resumption of life as we know it. I agree. I am especially pessimistic about the Chinese connection to ALL of this and presume that we are being readied for war that is not intended to be won but to bring the take over of China to pass. I also am beginning to hate Trump.

[Philippe]

Looking beyond the unfolding disaster for a defence against the freedom threatening outcomes that are looming, I bring a proposal of French doctor Pierre-Jacques Raybaud to your attention.

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Despite official declarations, it is necessary to the contrary, to make the wearing of a face-mask mandatory for everybody in all busy and confined public places (subway, train, taxi, car, auto bus, airport, train-station, large gatherings of people). It would allow to refrain the spreading of the virus and limit the very worrying slowdown of the economy.
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( The French text : En dépit des déclarations officielles, il faudrait, au contraire rendre obligatoire le port systématique du masque pour tout le monde, en zone très fréquentée et confinée (métro, train, taxi, voiture, bus, aéroport, gare, grand rassemblement). Il permettra de freiner la diffusion du virus et de limiter le ralentissement très inquiétant de l’économie.)

This measure in case of an epidemic outbreak and if voluntarily adopted by all individuals in towns, villages or regions may become a legal movement and resistance to escape the immense threat of mandatory vaccinations. I must not repeat here what are the dangers of mandatory vaccinations that may contain unknown nano bots and substances that resemble a Wuhan animal food market. This idea may seem illusory knowing that the masses are undisciplined and unaware of what is at stake. But like in all movements there can be a beginning in small communities that claim their right for collective auto immunization. The economic disaster of putting a surrealistic halt to nearly all economic life could be avoided. Confinement should instead be on one's face covering mouth and nose!
EDIT: I went food shopping and realized how all new products in the shelves were touched by possible contaminated personnel or fruits were picked up by shoppers for inspection. Eccentric billionaire Howard Hughes must have realized all that before withdrawing in total confinement.

As a reference hereby the full article that was published in French magazine Mediapart.
https://blogs.mediapart.fr/pierre-jacques-raybaud/blog/020320/coronavirus-recommandations-et-inhalation
(The article gives several more advises for good hygienic measures. But note that this doctor is also advocating vaccination against the flu what should not be supported because there is no more guarantee for what such vaccination may contain or not)

Another solution for resisting mandatory vaccinations is the success story of a small Italian village where all inhabitants were tested for the corona-virus and the positive cases were immediately quarantined. They succeeded apparently to entirely stop the epidemic.
From The Guardian: Scientists say mass tests in Italian town have halted Covid-19

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/scientists-say-mass-tests-in-italian-town-have-halted-covid-19/ar-BB11njwX?ocid=spartanntp

Both voluntary measures would be a minimal cost providing each individual with some state-of-the-art face masks and a test kit.

Do not shoot at me for being naive. I am thinking out-of-the-box to resist the mandatory vaccinations that seem inevitable. :p

[Dennis Leahy]

One positive psycho-social outcome that I see is having people "enlightened" to the fact that we are all connected. Not quite "oneness" but broken from the illusion of separateness.

And maybe, just maybe, not just fear for one's own health, but a larger understanding that we all have a responsibility to guard other people's health too.

[Angels1981]

I was told they want to take your free Will and create the end of the world. This is nothing but a global experiment of control and feeding on your fear. There is a spiritual war going on which Will do ide the masse. Feed i to fear such as go er ment elite wish. Or to create love and change. Love Who is our creator desires us to fight the systems of the world. If you SEE you can do No wrong in love. Forgive and cherish what we have already. Be greatful etc use virtues get out of egos.
I SEE surpression of our freedom. Against love becsuse love provides us a way out and to Explorer.
Separation. When you Are separate you Are weak dispair kicks in you Are left bare. If we stick together we Are stronhger. Cant you SEE what they Are trying to do.
They Are trying to create a cashless society. Locally they Are using cross contamination as an excuse to stop handling Cash.
They Are stripping enjoyment Joy and fun is being stopped. Love create fun times etc.
The way i feel they Are testning the water. They already had Yahoo news stating surveilence is the only method to control the spread.
This is it folks. Get following Jesus christ and love. Seriously bevause Faith belief and being fearless and having a strong conpoment to say No to the vaccine. If they said we need a vaccine i personally Will refuse it.
How do you know If its got a chip or some nanopartical in it. Not everyone is going to take it but If you make it for ed then that makes se se.
This is a time to share and help eachother. Dont get i to fights dont create more fear let create gratitude wisdom and love. They got rid of ppl Who Are creating love so the strong ones get knocked out first. Thats what i SEE my Angels always said No matter what evil tells you say No and yes to love. happening anyway peace

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[helium]

Maybe volatility is the name of the game, at least for the short term. Maybe volatility is all there is remaining.


A Tale of Two (and more) "Realities"

I went out and bought garden supplies today. The spa I work in is finally going to close Monday through Friday but is going off of clients numbers for the weekend. I won't be working because I don't like the idea of massage if there is the need for social distancing.

trump is already back pedaling his promises about short term money for individuals (as per his news conference I heard last pm). helium said that there is doubt in his mind that they even WANT a containment, mitigation and resumption of life as we know it. I agree. I am especially pessimistic about the Chinese connection to ALL of this and presume that we are being readied for war that is not intended to be won but to bring the take over of China to pass. For the first time, the way Trump was sliding off his promises last night made me start hating him.

What a Delight (full) quote. This just came to me:

The rules have changed. That’s the first principle of the coming psycho-social transition. The rules have changed. Knowing exactly how they’ve changed would be advantageous. Second principle: always know the rules – they change constantly.

I’m a good example of how the rules have changed. If they hadn’t I wouldn't be here on the forum. It took an apocalypse (well, let’s say near-apocalypse) to exert enough force on me to decide to share things that I’ve never shared. Why? Well, the rules changed and I acted accordingly. I’ve always taken advantage of rules, rather than have them disadvantage me. If you look closely you can always find a crack in the edifice. Small details. That’s where you find the crack that let’s you follow the rules while doing an end-run around their intent. Their intent being to limit what you can do. It’s imperative to know when the rules change and just how they’ve changed. I knew the rules were changing, so I acted accordingly.

The Third Principle? do your utmost to foresee changes in the rules. If you know how a rule will change in the future you have an advantage.

Welcome to the world of The Coming Psycho-Social Transition.

[Delight]

I am not sure how we can anticipate the changes. Every day as I become more OK with getting sick and dying, my fear of the repercussions deeply outweighs my concerns of ill health. People are expressing deep skepticism over the virus being "real". The thing about it IMO is that there are such half hearted measures in place, all it is really doing is making everyone feel crazy. I say let the virus loose and triage. If not loosened, the shutdown of the economy will be terrible and the healthcare system will fail anyway.

I think that most people are not ready to accept the extreme insecurity for the sake of securing a future freedom. And the fact that so many will not be affected much means to me their rage will build to a crescendo. IMO the "Mike Adams" of the world will retreat to their ranch, the wellwellwell to do(do) will retreat to their bunkers. The main mass will not be able to mount a resistance. The most vulnerable will die. Sorry if that is pessimistic.


IMO the main psycho-social trick is the ability to accept the very worst idea (that the medical system will collapse, and even other issues may not be treated and the economy will go down and then that will be that.) IMO once having accepted this is real, I suggest we could work on feeling happy in the midst of this pain. Then IMO we could possible relax and allow a larger influx of energy and POSSIBLY a healing balm.

If this is the collective analogy of cancer (where certain cells have run away and are overtaking the reasonable cells),we cannot depend on the "burn, cut, kill" model and I am working personally with my own internal guidance to be in love with what is happening and being curious about the unknown?

I may be wrong but I think that perhaps various realities ARE moving away from one another and we who "let go" of the current paradigm may be able to "forgetta bout it". The caveatt that i am hearing in my head is defense of (holding dear) glues as in much as resistance (pushing away) does. Neither work.

But who knows?

[Delight]

I know. People are moving through the stages of grief
deny
bargain
feel an anger
feel the grief
accept

No one gets out of here alive (so far) but I have watched testimony anfter testimony that what we perceive is death is only true in the slim matrix we wrapped around our shoulders. Eventually we get too tired and give it up. Some have returned from a "journey" away from carrying a collective burden of propping up the world with all the beliefs in it. Those ones know better now. They share in so many words and one feeling...we really ARE FREE and we can make anything we want "of" the think maya "ball game" but only one by one. Then that changes the game one by one.

Long before the game seems to change in general, specifically one by one it alters. These days no one will be able to figure out the big game any longer, I predict. The numbers just won't add up. We will feel convinced while we are bargaining with the "real" story and it won't make sense at all when we all argue. Arguments will not help.

BUT if we turn in to the source of the picture, that stream where it all comes in, and use our fractal pattern displaying "some thing", to declare our expectation FOR US as we choose, we can MAKE IT MAKE SENSE in a satisfying way. Then it will be our story displayed. This fracturing of the collective means to me the greatest opportunity ever presented. In this opportunity lost people will accept and realize that what we "see" is what we get,perhaps? Up till NOW, we were in a program that looked so coherent that we could believe it was true.

Now we can't. I am grateful for my piece.Today where I am in my world the rain is gentle. The seed pots are here and the potting soil. I have a cat who chose me over all the neighbors and follows me just excited to be with me in an ecstasy if I stop playing the computer to spend time with him. Another chose me after years of being feral and is the snuggling one. Another has used almost all his lives to stay here being with me. My dogs chose me and let me be alpha.My chickens all made it though another day of roaming in a yard ringed with foxes and hawks. I love being with these friends. I feel really great with the seeming passing inconceivable out there because I am conceiving what IS CONCEIVABLE FOR ME.

Seeds don't mind breaking to become another way of life. The chickens are not ever afraid of what will happen. The dogs are wise to be focusing on the good right now. My kitchen is stocked with tea and my bed is soft. I take 100% responsibility for my sovereign space. However, I KNOW I am not alone. Right here is a power with me that creates worlds. It wants to make one just for me if I let it have my faith and turn to INFINITE INTELLIGENCE< Intelligent infinity who is IN ME.

I have watched Joe Dispenza videos and watched and watched testimony of miraculous physical recovery, magical synchronicity, amazing transformation. Magic is real but it is science.It is divine science. Dispenza has said more than once that the physical healings are just a beginning of what the work can reveal.

Magic is changing consciousness at will. This is a dream where magic rules but we cannot take the "present" without realizing the WHO behind it. That one WHOM we recognize as magician is not the one trying to calculate statistics and holding for dear life onto the bricks already stacked. Who knows the truth is relaxed and at ease and can let go of any stack of bricks because she can create any bricks anytime.

I feel so grateful that the time of depending on the bricks rather than the being maker of bricks is passing out. This is IMO the teleology of our innate beingness behind the common play. We have to assume responsibility each one of us. But that is why we have for giveness, so we can let go of what we once produced in an illusion. I am responsible for the end of the world (as I know it) and excited about the new one.

I know we have to move though the stages of grief because it all seemed to be CONCRETE and letting go to remember WHO we are REALLY.... takes "time". ONLY then I can be on to a new design here or somewhere. That is my psycho-social expectation for me.

[helium]

Maybe volatility is the name of the game, at least for the short term. Maybe volatility is all there is remaining.


A Tale of Two (and more) "Realities"

I went out and bought garden supplies today. The spa I work in is finally going to close Monday through Friday but is going off of clients numbers for the weekend. I won't be working because I don't like the idea of massage if there is the need for social distancing.

trump is already back pedaling his promises about short term money for individuals (as per his news conference I heard last pm). helium said that there is doubt in his mind that they even WANT a containment, mitigation and resumption of life as we know it. I agree. I am especially pessimistic about the Chinese connection to ALL of this and presume that we are being readied for war that is not intended to be won but to bring the take over of China to pass. For the first time, the way Trump was sliding off his promises last night made me start hating him.

What a Delight (full) quote. This just came to me:

The rules have changed. That’s the first principle of the coming psycho-social transition. The rules have changed. Knowing exactly how they’ve changed would be advantageous. Second principle: always know the rules – they change constantly.

I’m a good example of how the rules have changed. If they hadn’t I wouldn't be here on the forum. It took an apocalypse (well, let’s say near-apocalypse) to exert enough force on me to decide to share things that I’ve never shared. Why? Well, the rules changed and I acted accordingly. I’ve always taken advantage of rules, rather than have them disadvantage me. If you look closely you can always find a crack in the edifice. Small details. That’s where you find the crack that let’s you follow the rules while doing an end-run around their intent. Their intent being to limit what you can do. It’s imperative to know when the rules change and just how they’ve changed. I knew the rules were changing, so I acted accordingly.

The Third Principle? do your utmost to foresee changes in the rules. If you know how a rule will change in the future you have an advantage.

Welcome to the world of The Coming Psycho-Social Transition.


In the previous post I stressed three principles that dictate in part how we function. You know, all about the rules. Well, being able to manipulate your reality does you no good unless you know what you want out of it. And what any sane person would in want today’s world would be a close chain of friends who can be trusted. I’m feeling a new principle coming on. The Fourth Principle: our relationships are our most secure foundations. Connectedness is primary.

Here is a story that I hope gives some clue as to what I mean:

The Bridge

It used to be common for me to spend a few weeks in the backcountry with my backpack after returning from a long bicycle tour. I always strive to ride to my destination from home, then return without using transport. Even though my destination might be somewhere in faraway wilderness the getting there and back wasn’t always comfortable. So when I’d arrive home I’d be burnt out. One year I spent several weeks in the backcountry very late in October. Days were short but the weather was holding out fairly well. On a wet day I sheltered in an Adirondack shack in a small meadow just below a high pass. There were three others that stayed there that night, in the drizzling rain.

Darkness fell quickly. One fellow hiker was a local with his snoot up in the air. I live in the area as well, but at least I’m polite to outsiders. The other two were climbers headed for the glaciers up above the pass we’d go over in the morning. One was a bit older than the other. The younger was probably in his late 20’s. He was either in the military or had just been discharged. Both climbers were obviously experienced. The story I have to tell is about the younger climber. I’ll call him Will. That night in the dark we all ate our dinner and threw out our sleeping bags on the bunks while swapping stories. Will was full of energy and hadn’t calmed down by the time everyone else was ready to sleep. I could see what was going on. I’m my own kind of mental health professional. Before Will started to get on everyone’s nerves I suggested he and I throw our rain gear on and hike up the trail to the top of the pass. It was only a couple of miles to the top. Will thought that was a great idea so off we went. It didn’t take long to get to the top. The trail was under dense tree canopy almost all the way so the drizzle didn’t really affect us. On the way back down we walked slow and spoke softly in the deep blackness of night. Our words floated between us in the dark. It was as if we were disembodied. Will had something to tell me so I listened.

Will related a familiar story. At least familiar to me, but I’m sure it will be familiar to many here on the PA forum. He and his wife had been out camping. One night his wife was abducted by a UFO while Will was held paralyzed by an unknown force, an unwilling witness to the event.

For all of the days in my life I’ve been easy for people to talk to. But sometimes I hear things that have staggering consequences for the individual and everyone else connected to them. (remember, connectedness.) Especially men are vulnerable to severe emotional problems if they’re overpowered in some way by some force or circumstances. So Will told me his whole story while I kept my mouth shut. Eventually he wanted a response from me. I was afraid of that. What am I supposed to say? Will told me that the stress he’s dealing with caused him to be diagnosed by the military doctors, which led (or was leading to) his discharge which he didn’t want. The doctors had Will on all sorts of pharmaceuticals, foremost an SSRI. They basically told him he was crazy and that freaked him out.

Silence hung in the air while Will was waiting for me to tell him what I thought of his story. My gut intuition always helps me decide what to say when I’m lost for words. So I went with my gut. I told Will that he was unique but that he was not alone. I told him that it was crucial that he find his strength for both himself and for the others who have had similar experiences that he would someday help. I emphasized how important he was to the future. We were coming close to the camp so that’s basically where our conversation ended. Will had burned off enough energy that he had no problem falling asleep. And so I went to sleep as well.

Early the next morning, during what’s commonly known in research as late morning REM, I found myself standing beside Will in his dream. We walked together silently on the sidewalk of a pleasant neighborhood street lined with enormous elms, similar to Leave it to Beaver. We came to a house that had been torn down. Only the concrete foundation remained. We could look down into the basement of the house. The entire basement was exposed. I was becoming aware of the significance of this dream imagery for Will. Terrible things had been done in that basement. Torture and pain were connected to it. But as we walked by the open foundation it was obvious that all of that trauma was over and done. The torment that had been endured in that basement when it was a dark, inescapable place was no longer hidden. The tormentors had been exposed to broad daylight. The trauma and pain had ended forever. Will glanced down into the pit of the exposed basement, then lifted his eyes and calmly walked on by. I was stunned. Just like that, as if a load had been lifted from him, Will walked away unaffected. I knew that this was directly related to the discussion we’d had the night before while walking down the trail. I knew that what I’d said that night had rung true for Will.

At that moment Will and the street began to fade from my sight. I looked over to my left. Something caught my attention. As I turned to look closer a vision formed in front of me of a bridge. It was a cable-suspension bridge similar to the Golden Gate but not quite as large. It spanned a deep crevasse. There were clouds lingering in the girders of the high steel towers, white, soft, wispy clouds. The cables and the girders that supported the bridge were thick and strong. But I could see that the wisps of clouds were forming around the cables and steel structure in a strange fashion. Each wisp of cloud formed into a string with an obvious beginning and end. These wispy strings were woven together like rope; each strand makes the rope stronger. The interwoven wisps of cloud wound around the girders and cables. But I could still see the steel and the cables through the wrap of cloud. I stared at this scene for a long time, wondering what in fact it was that I was seeing. In a moment the symbolism became clear. Each individual strand, each wispy string with it’s definable beginning and end, represented a human life lived from beginning to end.

I came to realize that all of those intricately interwoven human lives represented by curling wisps of cloud were actually the source of strength for the girders and cables. The bridge stood by virtue of the strength of all of the entwined human lives, in intimate relationship with one another over time immemorial. The bridge and the interwoven souls represent the human experiment in it’s entirety. Our lives, lived in close relation to others, serve as the foundation of our transcendence, when we eventually cross the bridge as a species. We are humanity, an entity onto itself, ensconced within a vast multi-verse. That is what I saw as the vision of the cloud-wrapped bridge hung motionless in the air before me. At that point I transited quickly to waking and opened my eyes onto the roof of the Adirondack shack. The day was looking to be clear and sunny. We were all up early making tea and coffee. Will was quiet, but brimming with energy, ready for the climb he and his partner had planned.

The meaning for me in that vision was made clear: never underestimate the influence you might have on others. We’re all intricately entwined. Even the bad guys are part of the weave. We have an unimaginable destination, yet through our greater experience as a distinct collective entity we are imagining – creating – that future place.

I thought the question ‘what does it mean to love humanity’ was interesting. Discovered there was a test for that. See link.

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/heres_how_much_you_love_humanity

[Bill Ryan]

@helium (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?46290-helium), fantastic post immediately above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110336-Covid-19-the-coming-psycho-social-transition&p=1342427&viewfull=1#post1342427). (Btw, you may possibly know I'm an experienced mountaineer myself.) Thanks. :flower:

[NewParadigmGuy]

A quote from Inelia Benz:


"Here are a few things you can do right now to bring forth that shift of paradigm we have been talking about for decades now:

One is to embrace the change and start looking for allies in the creation of new work, education and sharing of supplies.
Reach out to those less fortunate and those more fortunate and see if you can organize a structure where everyone is taken care of and supplied with the basic necessities of life.
Don’t wait for others to take the lead, there are no others who can take the lead.

You were born at this time on this planet to embody the new paradigm, and co-create a high frequency experience. You were born at this time on this planet TO LEAD."

[helium]

@helium (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?46290-helium), fantastic post immediately above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110336-Covid-19-the-coming-psycho-social-transition&p=1342427&viewfull=1#post1342427). (Btw, you may possibly know I'm an experienced mountaineer myself.) Thanks. :flower:


Yes, of course, Bill (with a grin on my face). Maybe we've covered some common territory.

[TomKat]

We must remember that it was the Black Death that brought Europe out of the Middle Ages and caused the Renaissance. During the Middle Ages the elites (feudal lords) had everything the way they wanted: Lords, Knights and Serfs -- centuries of stagnation. But when the plague hit, the elites all headed for the hills, leaving the peasants to sort it out. By the time they came back from the country, the economy had changed, people were trading in a new, market economy. The upper class was suddenly irrelevant. Seems the natural state of affairs is freedom and prosperity. So with the thumb of the rich off the society, we had a Renaissance.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Folks just a few thoughts as we enter these difficult times with the dreaded virus.

As time has been passing by I thought this is a huge opportunity to take advantage of how this pans out.

I suppose it doesn’t matter at these times if this has been orchestrated by design or a natural phenomena.

Let’s make it work for humanity.

The most important thing is that we all grasp this once in a lifetime opportunity and do what we came here to do, and that is to do our job as lightworkers and turn this into an opportunity that changes the current events to a reality that will benefit humanity toward a kinder, more caring sharing humanity to evolve toward a higher plane of consciousness where we can all be our destined higher selves. You can all do it with our gifted abilities to create with our minds. Anyone can do this, don't let media hyjack your thoughts.

With most and the vast majority of people on lockdown this gives us the opportunity to make way for a different outcome with reality, a new Paradigm.

I urge all of you to in this time to focus and pass on the information to create with our collective minds to create new realities and new thought patterns towards a new paradigm. Personally, I believe this is a pivotal moment in our history, people will be talking about this in years to come and reminiscing ‘do you remember when’.


This is the time we have all been tasked for. Create, create and change mind set. Set your mind to new ideas, new ways of living, new and different life styles that will benefit us all. Capitalism will banish forever and we are on the threshold of the New Paradigm. I get exited just imaging and thinking about the endless possibilities . My whole body tingles with excitement of what can be. At these period when people’s minds are in turmoil we can get them thinking differently and turning this into an outcome that will change life as we know it.

This is our chance, all of you to change the mind set of the majority. We can do this people really focus and pass on the message to as many as you possible can and focus on the new world, a new reality. It can be done with this moment. History will be re written and our lives will be changed forever, this is the time Folks. Hit Facebook, twitter my space, Instagram to name but a few. With so many now twiddling their thumbs this is the moment, don’t miss this amazing window of opportunity.

I leave you with this…written someone who cares.

********


And the people stayed home. And read books, and listened, and rested, and exercised, and made art, and played games, and learned new ways of being, and were still. And listened more deeply. Some meditated, some prayed, some danced. Some met their shadows. And the people began to think differently.

And the people healed. And, in the absence of people living in ignorant, dangerous, mindless, and heartless ways, the earth began to heal.

And when the danger passed, and the people joined together again, they grieved their losses, and made new choices, and dreamed new images, and created new ways to live and heal the earth fully, as they had been healed.
By Kitty

********

Are you in? Let’s do it.

Thank you for reading. I can see a New Paradigm... please share my focus and energy, we owe it to humanity.

Viking

[Lone Eagle]

This Vedic song (prayer)used in The Matrix movie may give us a little inspiration to stand strong."When the five senses and the mind are still, and reason itself rests in silence then begins the path supreme." Thanks again for the truths you bring forth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUbBmX65BQc&fbclid=IwAR0-a59zvW3OML95H-3jccnpxPUzrzBXLKafxvjr4LIGXr-Bs_ROrDolKIo

[EFO]

This Vedic song (prayer)used in The Matrix movie may give us a little inspiration to stand strong. Thanks again for the truths you bring forth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUbBmX65BQc&fbclid=IwAR0-a59zvW3OML95H-3jccnpxPUzrzBXLKafxvjr4LIGXr-Bs_ROrDolKIo

The same from me with this song

Då Som Nu För Alltid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bubOcI11sps

[helium]

No one gets out of here alive (so far) but I have watched testimony anfter testimony that what we perceive is death is only true in the slim matrix we wrapped around our shoulders. Eventually we get too tired and give it up. Some have returned from a "journey" away from carrying a collective burden of propping up the world with all the beliefs in it. Those ones know better now. They share in so many words and one feeling...we really ARE FREE and we can make anything we want "of" the think maya "ball game" but only one by one. Then that changes the game one by one.

Long before the game seems to change in general, specifically one by one it alters. These days no one will be able to figure out the big game any longer, I predict. The numbers just won't add up. We will feel convinced while we are bargaining with the "real" story and it won't make sense at all when we all argue. Arguments will not help.

BUT if we turn in to the source of the picture, that stream where it all comes in, and use our fractal pattern displaying "some thing", to declare our expectation FOR US as we choose, we can MAKE IT MAKE SENSE in a satisfying way. Then it will be our story displayed. This fracturing of the collective means to me the greatest opportunity ever presented. In this opportunity lost people will accept and realize that what we "see" is what we get,perhaps? Up till NOW, we were in a program that looked so coherent that we could believe it was true.

Now we can't. I am grateful for my piece.Today where I am in my world the rain is gentle. The seed pots are here and the potting soil. I have a cat who chose me over all the neighbors and follows me just excited to be with me in an ecstasy if I stop playing the computer to spend time with him. Another chose me after years of being feral and is the snuggling one. Another has used almost all his lives to stay here being with me. My dogs chose me and let me be alpha.My chickens all made it though another day of roaming in a yard ringed with foxes and hawks. I love being with these friends. I feel really great with the seeming passing inconceivable out there because I am conceiving what IS CONCEIVABLE FOR ME.

Seeds don't mind breaking to become another way of life. The chickens are not ever afraid of what will happen. The dogs are wise to be focusing on the good right now. My kitchen is stocked with tea and my bed is soft. I take 100% responsibility for my sovereign space. However, I KNOW I am not alone. Right here is a power with me that creates worlds. It wants to make one just for me if I let it have my faith and turn to INFINITE INTELLIGENCE< Intelligent infinity who is IN ME.

I have watched Joe Dispenza videos and watched and watched testimony of miraculous physical recovery, magical synchronicity, amazing transformation. Magic is real but it is science.It is divine science. Dispenza has said more than once that the physical healings are just a beginning of what the work can reveal.

Magic is changing consciousness at will. This is a dream where magic rules but we cannot take the "present" without realizing the WHO behind it. That one WHOM we recognize as magician is not the one trying to calculate statistics and holding for dear life onto the bricks already stacked. Who knows the truth is relaxed and at ease and can let go of any stack of bricks because she can create any bricks anytime.

I feel so grateful that the time of depending on the bricks rather than the being maker of bricks is passing out. This is IMO the teleology of our innate beingness behind the common play. We have to assume responsibility each one of us. But that is why we have for giveness, so we can let go of what we once produced in an illusion. I am responsible for the end of the world (as I know it) and excited about the new one.

I know we have to move though the stages of grief because it all seemed to be CONCRETE and letting go to remember WHO we are REALLY.... takes "time". ONLY then I can be on to a new design here or somewhere. That is my psycho-social expectation for me.


This reads like a manifesto. I love it.

We do get out alive, just not the way we expect to, unless we pay attention. Which is what transitions are all about – paying attention along the way.

I made a joke on the main Wuhan Virus thread about maybe having a day of the week here on the CPST thread for posting jokes only on that day. I wish I knew some good ones. I think I like it here better.

[NewParadigmGuy]

The darkest times bring out the best and worst in humanity.

With all of the bleak news regarding this damned catastrophe, and the media focusing on hoarders, testing shortages, and triages, here's an example of people doing it right:

https://apnews.com/bda9c1ed0f8e10742ad2feabb2d52aa2

I would like to see a thread named something like "Evidence that a New Paradigm is emerging out of the chaos", a place where news articles like this one could be posted.


Maintaining positivity is critical, in my opinion.

Absolutely! We can create anything we want out of this situation if we all work together to visualize and intend it.


Maybe this warrants its own thread, since it's off-topic, but I figured I'd share. We may come out stronger and more unified from this

There is no reason that we cannot come out stronger and more unified from this.

I am reluctant to start any new threads here, but if one does not exist for positive news (and changes) coming out of the chaos, I think we should start one. Bill?

[Bill Ryan]

The darkest times bring out the best and worst in humanity.

With all of the bleak news regarding this damned catastrophe, and the media focusing on hoarders, testing shortages, and triages, here's an example of people doing it right:

https://apnews.com/bda9c1ed0f8e10742ad2feabb2d52aa2

I would like to see a thread named something like "Evidence that a New Paradigm is emerging out of the chaos", a place where news articles like this one could be posted.


Maintaining positivity is critical, in my opinion.Absolutely! We can create anything we want out of this situation if we all work together to visualize and intend it.


Maybe this warrants its own thread, since it's off-topic, but I figured I'd share. We may come out stronger and more unified from thisThere is no reason that we cannot come out stronger and more unified from this.

I am reluctant to start any new threads here, but if one does not exist for positive news (and changes) coming out of the chais, I think we should start one. Bill?Understood, for sure. But just at the moment we feel it's potentially confusing to have too many coronavirus threads. Or else (a) members and guests don't know where to look for new ideas and information, and (b) members don't know where best to post. (It's confused already! There's already a lot of overlap.)

At the moment, this thread, The coming psycho-social transition, can equally apply to a very positive transition — and of course we fully support that. :thumbsup:

[NewParadigmGuy]

OK, fair enough. I DO understand the problem of too many threads! ;)

[Denise/Dizi]

I only know one thing...

Out of this, will come either a more controlled society, much worse than before, or a grand opportunity to change everything.. Including the financial structures. And the vast gaps with the inequality of life on this world.. It depends on what we do about it now..

For those that wanted this power grab? They had to disassemble everything, and in doing so, there are great risks that free thinkers will grab it back!

I just hope that those of us who are awake and aware of the potential outcomes of such a situation, are level headed, when their friends do begin to listen to them, as they will have no choice now. Behave responsibly folks, many people are frightened, many are angry... And they will want to know what you know, don't overwhelm them, calm them, but let them know, things are going to change.. And HOW they change depends on what we do..

What they change into, is in our hands. Should we choose to take on that responsibility. The ball has been set into motion.. Rather than feel we have been defeated, because they're pushing for more regulation, just remember, the ball just started rolling, and they have yet to make any goals. They just got the attention of ALL of the players on the field.. We just need to guide the rest of humanity now to do whats right.

Many are starting with nothing after this. And they're going to be mad, and very willing to start over as they will have no choice. They certainly aren't going to want to jump back into the same system that failed them.

The illusion that the government is there for us, has just crumbled. And they're fighting with their COG (Continuity of government) propaganda, to avoid a takeover by the people.. Had they never forgotten they worked for the people? Perhaps they wouldn't have to struggle so hard.

I see this as a golden opportunity to fix this world as well, if we want to put in the work. Those that thought we were "Fringe Conspiracy theorists" are now going to be willing to listen..

While those in power believe they have everything in their hands, truly the only power they have over us is the "perception" of power, and our men and women who believe their fighting the good fight for that illusion... the military. And while we can have the best of intentions, it will also require actions.

We need to come to the point where we say "Enough".. And if voting these crooks out of office hasn't worked, then we just need to stop supporting them, stop abiding by their archaic rules. Families being limited to the medical care they can receive, because their wages have been attached for lack of paying taxes into a corrupt system.. etc. it all has to stop.. Many of these people would never get sick to begin with if they were allowed to eat the foods that their incomes COULD have provided them...

It's just time. And it does start with the best of intentions. Because those laying down laws and regulations and consequences upon us, surely have laid out their own plans to enslave us.

If this is in the wrong place, please feel free to delete it.. But it all starts with the proper mindset, and I applaud this thread.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks Denise... Yes I agree we have the power to control what happens next and with media just focusing on Corona we need to put that to the back of our minds and focus on an outcome which will benefit us all and not just the 1%.

With so much time on our hands the focus needs to be directed properly, I am sure most here know how to direct the thought process toward what we want. Check my thread/link at the bottom of page. This is where our creative skills come into play.

I really don't know where this is all going, but what I do know is that the system will be near collapse after all this. Its up to us humanity to focus where this goes. If you are thinking oh well more control by the hyerarchy, then it will be.

Otherwise we can imagine a whole new world for all of us to enjoy.

Viking

[helium]

I only know one thing...

Out of this, will come either a more controlled society, much worse than before, or a grand opportunity to change everything.. Including the financial structures. And the vast gaps with the inequality of life on this world.. It depends on what we do about it now..

For those that wanted this power grab? They had to disassemble everything, and in doing so, there are great risks that free thinkers will grab it back!

I just hope that those of us who are awake and aware of the potential outcomes of such a situation, are level headed, when their friends do begin to listen to them, as they will have no choice now. Behave responsibly folks, many people are frightened, many are angry... And they will want to know what you know, don't overwhelm them, calm them, but let them know, things are going to change.. And HOW they change depends on what we do..

What they change into, is in our hands. Should we choose to take on that responsibility. The ball has been set into motion.. Rather than feel we have been defeated, because they're pushing for more regulation, just remember, the ball just started rolling, and they have yet to make any goals. They just got the attention of ALL of the players on the field.. We just need to guide the rest of humanity now to do whats right.

Many are starting with nothing after this. And they're going to be mad, and very willing to start over as they will have no choice. They certainly aren't going to want to jump back into the same system that failed them.

The illusion that the government is there for us, has just crumbled. And they're fighting with their COG (Continuity of government) propaganda, to avoid a takeover by the people.. Had they never forgotten they worked for the people? Perhaps they wouldn't have to struggle so hard.

I see this as a golden opportunity to fix this world as well, if we want to put in the work. Those that thought we were "Fringe Conspiracy theorists" are now going to be willing to listen..

While those in power believe they have everything in their hands, truly the only power they have over us is the "perception" of power, and our men and women who believe their fighting the good fight for that illusion... the military. And while we can have the best of intentions, it will also require actions.

We need to come to the point where we say "Enough".. And if voting these crooks out of office hasn't worked, then we just need to stop supporting them, stop abiding by their archaic rules. Families being limited to the medical care they can receive, because their wages have been attached for lack of paying taxes into a corrupt system.. etc. it all has to stop.. Many of these people would never get sick to begin with if they were allowed to eat the foods that their incomes COULD have provided them...

It's just time. And it does start with the best of intentions. Because those laying down laws and regulations and consequences upon us, surely have laid out their own plans to enslave us.

If this is in the wrong place, please feel free to delete it.. But it all starts with the proper mindset, and I applaud this thread.

And Helium applauds this post - so utterly appropriate for this thread.

[scotslad]

If you are an employer in the UK you get 80% help to pay up to £2500 per employee
If you are an employee in the UK you get up to £2500 of your salary paid by Govt

If you are one of the 5m self-employed you can get a crisis payment from the govt via UNIVERSAL credit - which appears to be a LOAN that you have to repay

Is this one way to financially enslave 10% of your population who have been independently not having to rely on the state?

You claim by calling 0800 169 0350.

Whats your thoughts on this?

[helium]

If you are an employer in the UK you get 80% help to pay up to £2500 per employee
If you are an employee in the UK you get up to £2500 of your salary paid by Govt

If you are one of the 5m self-employed you can get a crisis payment from the govt via UNIVERSAL credit - which appears to be a LOAN that you have to repay

Is this one way to financially enslave 10% of your population who have been independently not having to rely on the state?

You claim by calling 0800 169 0350.

Whats your thoughts on this?


From the point of view of psychological and/or sociological transitions one might argue that your suspicions are correct, that big govt. wants to pressure everyone to participate in the controlled economy rather than operate partially outside of it as the self-employed do.

Or the argument can be made that big govt. isn’t purposefully pushing this agenda but seems to be doing so out of laziness or lack of time and energy to thoroughly think these financial aid packages through before they’re made into law. This is pretty much happening in the US right now. The democrats appear to want to make efforts to think things through, but to me it just appears that they want to obfuscate the procedure because that’s what they do best. If they demonstrated a genuine desire to address things like stock buyouts and CEO salary and bonus raises they could probably get those items into the aid package bill without slowing it down.

There are always silly loopholes in laws that put money into the hands of those who need it. Too often this means that those most in need are shut out. Been there, done that. Student financial aid in the US is a huge example. The incongruities in the student financial aid system here can only be fully appreciated if you’re an adult at university. Which means you’re more likely to pay attention to everything you apply for and sign your name to. I’ve always found ways to make end-runs around any problems. Some would say I took advantage of the system.

I’ve been watching the legislation process in the US closely since it was announced that the feds may be sending out stimulus payments directly to citizens as other countries have. The hoops to jump through to receive those dollars and the persons who are eligible or not eligible provide clues to how those in power think.

That example in the UK you point to could be benign. Or it could be a blatant example of sociological changes to come. Time will tell. Be skeptical, though. I can’t think of anyone with half a brain who trusts big govt.

Wouldn’t it be nice if in the new world order we are the ones in charge? We would have just as many people blaming us for poor decisions as we blame our governments now. I’d love to see the tables turned, though. The issues would be real instead of contrived. That would be a game-changer.

One big problem with debating issues like this is that the data we have available comes mostly from controlled media. We aren’t privy to inside information.

To trust, or not to trust. THAT is the question.

[scotslad]

An interesting digression, but a key question...

2 years ago the first minister of Scotland was accused for rape/attempted rape against 12 women. Today, he was cleared of all 12. Found not guilty by a jury.

Was this an attempt to take down a very popular scottish politician and leader in an attempt to defame, sway public opinion of Scotland's leader, ruin his political career and keep certain controls in Downing Street?

"At one stage during proceedings, Salmond dramatically took to the stand and said the charges were fabrications and exaggerations and in some cases had been orchestrated for political reasons."

Is Scotland having to follow Downing street's directive on Corona virus? Interesting article below and how key evidence was suppressed from the trial, but may still come out in his favour...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8143201/Alex-Salmond-not-guilty-attempted-rape.html

one thing for sure, he wants the people of scotland to stay safe!

[helium]

An interesting digression, but a key question...

2 years ago the first minister of Scotland was accused for rape/attempted rape against 12 women. Today, he was cleared of all 12. Found not guilty by a jury.

Was this an attempt to take down a very popular scottish politician and leader in an attempt to defame, sway public opinion of Scotland's leader, ruin his political career and keep certain controls in Downing Street?

"At one stage during proceedings, Salmond dramatically took to the stand and said the charges were fabrications and exaggerations and in some cases had been orchestrated for political reasons."

Is Scotland having to follow Downing street's directive on Corona virus? Interesting article below and how key evidence was suppressed from the trial, but may still come out in his favour...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8143201/Alex-Salmond-not-guilty-attempted-rape.html

one thing for sure, he wants the people of scotland to stay safe!

This intersting to me. It will take time digest and respond. Thanks for posting and posing the applicable questions.

[NewParadigmGuy]

Coronavirus Pandemic Inspires Private Generosity

Examples abound of the generosity and sense of community of the American people.

While many of us turn to the government for answers to the COVID-19 pandemic, others rightfully seek solutions from the private sector. Last week, the Hoover Institution's Russ Roberts asked his many twitter followers to help "create a list of voluntary (non-coercive) actions taking place right now to reduce COVID-19 spread or impact." The answers are too inspiring not to share.

https://reason.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-pandemic-inspires-private-generosity/

[helium]

The latest Clif High video linked below presents some guidelines for the future. Not to say everything he says is gospel or that his language is palatable for all. But the kind of thinking he's doing is essential. Early adopters might score an advantage. Whiners will drag everyone else down. Opportunities will appear to those who put some energy into looking for them.

Or maybe fretting about martial law and forced vaccinations is the best thing to do. I don't think that's an approach to take to the future even if the National Guard is necessary to ensure essential traffic only on our bridges and highways. Get through the adjustment reactions and think ahead. -6CKWa3hBWs

[NewParadigmGuy]

The latest Clif High video linked below presents some guidelines for the future. Not to say everything he says is gospel or that his language is palatable for all. But the kind of thinking he's doing is essential. Early adopters might score an advantage. Whiners will drag everyone else down. Opportunities will appear to those who put some energy into looking for them.

Thank you, helium, for posting this excellent video - it is the most helpful thing I have seen on the internet all month. I agree that "the kind of thinking he's doing is essential", and I would like to see more thinking (and posting} along these lines in this thread and in other appropriate threads on this forum.


Or maybe fretting about martial law and forced vaccinations is the best thing to do. I don't think that's an approach to take to the future even if the National Guard is necessary to ensure essential traffic only on our bridges and highways. Get through the adjustment reactions and think ahead.

Yes! We need forward thinking and a positive, "can do" attitude reflected here. In the video Clif says, "Make the new society what you want it to be". Can't we all just get on board with that and start working toward it? The membership of this forum is a huge brain trust - let's use all those smarts and start working together - right now - to build a new world!

The Handbook for the New Paradigm states (in Volume 1 Message 6):


At this point, you must not concern yourselves with the manifestation of their plan. You know of it, you are expecting it and so it must be ignored. Your focus must be on the moment and what is to be done.

[helium]

Yes! We need forward thinking and a positive, "can do" attitude reflected here. In the video Clif says, "Make the new society what you want it to be". Can't we all just get on board with that and start working toward it? The membership of this forum is a huge brain trust - let's use all those smarts and start working together - right now - to build a new world!

The Handbook for the New Paradigm states (in Volume 1 Message 6):


At this point, you must not concern yourselves with the manifestation of their plan. You know of it, you are expecting it and so it must be ignored. Your focus must be on the moment and what is to be done.

Thanks for the comment. I didn’t expect any positive response to Clif’s video. I thought his timeline of 1 year and three years was sort of arbitrary. And I know lots of us aren’t about to follow his lead and sight our bows for the next deer hunt. It’s his attitude and willingness to develop the foresight to anticipate where we need to put our energies that’s important.

I wrote the following but decided not to post it. Yes, it is sort of half-baked. But this is what I was thinking yesterday. I’ve been taking a couple of days off to rest my brain from corona this and corona that.


If we were to pool our resources and imagine various paths that the future might take, then we could plot those probable timelines on a chart with descriptive labels for each. This would be a map of a discrete moment in time – as long as it takes for us to assemble the map. Once we have that map we can watch closely for any future events that provide clues as to which timeline we’re moving towards. Once we recognize the probable timeline that we’re following, we can create a new map. We would then be discarding useless information and focusing our attention on new trends.

There may be good reason to give such a thing a try.

The value in a forum like this is that learning can more easily evolve around ideas rather than revolve around people, as in book authors, academic authorities, you know, authority in general. We have our experiences and intuition to guide us. We should be able to see with better clarity than anyone or any group. If we all plot what we see individually, then match our results, it should be possible to see distinct branching probabilities. We have before us a magnificent natural laboratory, one that any sociologist would die for. The thing is, the entire world is a laboratory right now. Events are moving swiftly. It may not take long to see some radical changes of one sort or another. I’m not judging any particular change, good or bad. In the lab, change is change. It’s data - nothing to get upset about, just data. Maybe it would be good to take the focus off of gloom-and-dooming and to relax. What are some of the probable timelines that you can define?

It does seem like there’s a lot of attention focused on one little virus that you need a scanning electron microscope to see. Nevertheless, there’s lots going on in the world. And my point is that we are in the sandbox. It’s play time. No more snoozing. What might we learn if we put our intellects and hearts together on a few group projects with goals?

Lately I’ve been thinking about how important sleep is. Most everyone has been sleep deprived, up to this point. Maybe now there will be some extra time for sleep. But I’m thinking not of simply getting more sleep. In my way of thinking this may be a good time to develop a new relationship to sleep. Treating sleep as a meditation could lead to gaining more from sleep than simple rest. This is where my interest is at right now. I’m not certain how I might present this subject, but I have some good ideas to get started. At least this is a focus for my energy at this point in time.

Later note: link to sleep-related post http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110336-Covid19-the-coming-psycho-social-transition&p=1353168&viewfull=1#post1353168

Everyone will have their own unique talent or field of expertise to draw upon to contribute something of value. What we need to know now is what is going to be important in the future that we can prepare for now.

[NewParadigmGuy]

And I know lots of us aren’t about to follow his lead and sight our bows for the next deer hunt.

No, but I have decided to at least double the size of my garden. My business is dead in the water, for now, so I need something to occupy my time anyway. More on this below.


It’s his attitude and willingness to develop the foresight to anticipate where we need to put our energies that’s important.

Agreed.


I’ve been taking a couple of days off to rest my brain from corona this and corona that.

Good for you. We all need to make sure at this time to keep our lives in balance.


If we were to pool our resources and imagine various paths that the future might take, then we could plot those probable timelines on a chart with descriptive labels for each. This would be a map of a discrete moment in time – as long as it takes for us to assemble the map. Once we have that map we can watch closely for any future events that provide clues as to which timeline we’re moving towards. Once we recognize the probable timeline that we’re following, we can create a new map. We would then be discarding useless information and focusing our attention on new trends.

An interesting idea, for sure.


The value in a forum like this is that learning can more easily evolve around ideas rather than revolve around people, as in book authors, academic authorities, you know, authority in general. We have our experiences and intuition to guide us. We should be able to see with better clarity than anyone or any group. If we all plot what we see individually, then match our results, it should be possible to see distinct branching probabilities. We have before us a magnificent natural laboratory, one that any sociologist would die for. The thing is, the entire world is a laboratory right now. Events are moving swiftly. It may not take long to see some radical changes of one sort or another. I’m not judging any particular change, good or bad. In the lab, change is change. It’s data - nothing to get upset about, just data.

Sounds great! I wonder how such a plot could be created and displayed in a forum like this. I suspect some brainy person in here would know... I would think this project should have it's own thread, at least.


Maybe it would be good to take the focus off of gloom-and-dooming and to relax.

Ya think??? ;)


What are some of the probable timelines that you can define?

I will contribute just one small thing that I suspect will happen. Governments seem to be creating lots of money (out of thin air) and distributing it as a "rescue" measure, while at the same time the production (and therefore supply) of goods and services has been reduced or in many cases stopped. Therefore things will likely become more expensive. Food is something that everyone needs, and it will become less affordable along with everything else. So I expect that many people will start (or expand existing) gardens.


Lately I’ve been thinking about how important sleep is. Most everyone has been sleep deprived, up to this point. Maybe now there will be some extra time for sleep. But I’m thinking not of simply getting more sleep. In my way of thinking this may be a good time to develop a new relationship to sleep. Treating sleep as a meditation could lead to gaining more from sleep than simple rest. This is where my interest is at right now. I’m not certain how I might present this subject, but I have some good ideas to get started. At least this is a focus for my energy at this point in time.

No doubt sleep is a time when divine insights can be received.


Everyone will have their own unique talent or field of expertise to draw upon to contribute something of value. What we need to know now is what is going to be important in the future that we can prepare for now.

Yes.

[Tomkoyote]

Expect a collapse of the Chinese gov and all supply chains to go back to the US and rest of the world where the economies will bounce back in no time and jobs will be plenty and we'll all live happily ever after.

Well.... the reality is a little bit (just a bit) different. While people here have been busy shoving down each other's throat statistics on infected and deads and virus test reports and more statistics and non nonsensical speculations, China has been regrouping and is today as strong than before.

How much did China loose in the opening ceremony of the Corona Game? Actually, very little, a few bodies here an tiny economic scratch there, and... that's about it. Did they shut down their entire country, economy, banks, big businesses, small businesses, and the rest? Nope. Just Wuhan. If you want to play the victim and be credible you play it intelligently, show some (minor) losses and voila.
Where is China today? Back on its feet and as strong as before. Where will be China in a year? Ever stronger and with a lot and a lot of cash.

What came after the opening ceremony? The real Corona Game: sent Mr Corona globetrotting around the world and blow propaganda across the planet and sit and let dumb humans do the rest. So what did the rest of the world do? Literally lock down their own countries, choking their own economy, genociding their own businesses, impoverishing their own citizens, including the US, Europe, and everybody else, except maybe Russia.
Where is the rest of the world today? On the brink of bankruptcy. Where will be the rest of the world in a year? Totally bankrupt in deep poverty. Who is going to come to the 'rescue'? China; buying out the rest of the world. That's when the beautiful life will start.
- People working like slaves for the Chinese for peanuts, exactly as it is done in China today
- People vaccinated, chipped, and remotely controlled by AI (slaves controlled by AI)
Guess who is at the for front of AI, face recognition technology, and all the rest.
What government will we be living under? Chinese. By that time Mr Corona would have vanished into thin air. I Doubt that people would even remember his name.

[Delight]

I very seriously proclaim that this is the "moment" when the thin veneer of the collective mind shatters.

In the past, many suspected that in some way we as a human species was hurtling toward a very narrow passage into a new paradigm and a new (renewed) experience. I suspect that I have been waiting all my life for this "time". The senese I always have had of awaiting something was not "bad". It made me a seeker. It interested me in so many "theorviews" (a word I made up) and philosophical wonderings. But still, I felt I was marking time.

What made me think the weather was bringing the front was how much less and less sense I could find in EVERY system. Nothing was making sense, no matter where I looked. I THINK what was happening was consolidation of MY POV. I was looking for some underlying thread that could make sense.

I now have a bedrock of a principle (like building one's house on a foundation). That principle is that YES, what we expect to perceive is now shattered in a zillion pieces. No one expects the same POV enough any longer to make a coherent picture. HOWEVER, we will experience what we deeply (conscious and unconscious) "know" is what we will experience. That knowing of being at cause is the principle that overturns everything personally from the Old ways.

In a matrix once upon a time, there was plenty of agreement and there seemed to be time and enough time plus enough "drama" to satisfy and stuff to find. Then people started to be more self aware and the space grew between the individuals so they stretched the matrix of "agreement" as far as possible. Everyone thought they lived in reality. they started all campaigning to see if theirs would be the ONLY one. It was battles back and forth but little by little, the stretch between POV thinned ever more and brittle- ness crept in so that it was ABOUT to fall to pieces. The battles for perspective became more shrill and made NO SENSE to a large number all at one time.

There was a fracture. it started a long long time ago and the whole is in a shambles of shards at ones feet because in a certain way the dissolve was exponential and the moment after it was half down, then it was all the way demolished.

BUT this is the "Time" when we can embrace god as our own wonderful HUMAN imagination and experience NO MATRIX any longer, just us at the face of ourselves as god. Then we join hands as god is always individually expressed in form. The thing is NOW we are just being who we are all at the same time and agreeing to DISAGREE so we need no authority, feudal tier of power or any ONE to make it all a "civilization". We operate by the golden rule towards all life. That is because we have everything we need and can afford DIVINE GENEROSITY as a world expression.

What is because we now ALL grok that what we each expect and what we extend is what we GET in a meterial manifestation. As the reason we can then change as reasosn change but no one needs an agreement. A great being is so free to will the best. We are each GREAT> Thank God we have seen the crumble and rubble fallen.

Civilization is dead. Long live civilization next.

[ralfy]

The catch is that supply chains are global and not national. That is, they involve multiple raw materials and components spanning thousands of km and dozens of countries.

If countries close off borders, then in time much of industrial civilization will collapse.

[helium]

I've not been posting much these past days but I've been writing nonetheless.

An odd thought came to me a few minutes ago. I was thinking about those $1200 checks that are supposed to be going out to each adult in the US. NPR estimates that those checks will amount to a total of 300 billion dollars. Divide that by $1200 and you have 250 million individual disbursements. Of those, let’s say 100 million US adults gave $100 of that $1200 to hire a president that could do the job. There would be 10 billion dollars to get a candidate elected. It's estimated that just over 1.5 billion was spent by both the Trump and Clinton campaigns in 2016.

If everyone who received a $1200 check gave $1 we would wield a cool 250 million. Five dollars each? $1.25 billion. NPR estimates that the total cost of those checks is 300 billion. One quarter of that is 75 billion. One quarter of $1200 is $300 that would have to be shared by each citizen who received a check. $75 billion dollars could fund something huge in this country.

Our government in the US is on the verge of providing us with the means to change society and government radically. All we have to do is to come together in ways that nobody suspects possible. Like a kind of harmonic convergence.

Or perhaps a totally above board GoFundMe campaign that’s funded by a portion of those government checks.

More importantly, the checks themselves can be used as an impetus to get people involved in important projects. Those checks are free money to quite a few individuals like myself who would do just as well without them. Even those who need that money badly might give $1 or $5 from the check if everyone else was talking about a viral GoFundMe.

I’m thinking an independent runner for president. One that not only had a lot of money behind them, but also the clout of how many adult recipients of those checks in the US? If even half donated to a campaign the value of the campaign could be in the tens of billions of dollars. How can we get the most bang for our buck? What we don't spend that money on is just as important as what we do spend it on.

Maybe one way to bring people together at this point in history is to propose a GoFundMe that people could not resist. No, I don’t mean free Snickers bars for life . . .

[onevoice]

Yes! We need forward thinking and a positive, "can do" attitude reflected here. In the video Clif says, "Make the new society what you want it to be". Can't we all just get on board with that and start working toward it? The membership of this forum is a huge brain trust - let's use all those smarts and start working together - right now - to build a new world!

The Handbook for the New Paradigm states (in Volume 1 Message 6):


At this point, you must not concern yourselves with the manifestation of their plan. You know of it, you are expecting it and so it must be ignored. Your focus must be on the moment and what is to be done.

The PDf of "The Handbook for the New Paradigm" can be downloaded here (https://b-ok.cc/book/832397/351eeb).

[araucaria]

The latest Clif High video linked below presents some guidelines for the future. Not to say everything he says is gospel or that his language is palatable for all. But the kind of thinking he's doing is essential. Early adopters might score an advantage. Whiners will drag everyone else down. Opportunities will appear to those who put some energy into looking for them.

Or maybe fretting about martial law and forced vaccinations is the best thing to do. I don't think that's an approach to take to the future even if the National Guard is necessary to ensure essential traffic only on our bridges and highways. Get through the adjustment reactions and think ahead. -6CKWa3hBWs
Thank you for this video by Clif High, who is someone I have time for. However this American-centred view is pretty foreign to the European perspective, where this crisis is rather unlikely to have the far-reaching consequences described, if only because we are less dependent on Chinese imports than the US. If I understand him correctly, the Chinese communists have been working to the US Bush-driven agenda by producing goods cheaply and replacing American industry in the process. I had got the impression that the virus-as-bioweapon theory was a product of the American deep state. Here on the contrary it is something produced by the Chinese. The question then is why? To kill off Chinese citizens? Or to maim the US? Or both? Or something else? I am genuinely confused. Also, he is working on the basis that the Chinese statistics are understated by orders of magnitude; so far, I have not seen any evidence of that.

What is not confusing at all is that Americans should have great trouble understanding the Chinese. In “The Mind of East Asia” by Lily Abegg, described, note well, as “originally published prior to 1923”, we read lots of things such as “for them, the true concept of human greatness does not lie in individual distinction, but in adapting oneself to the community, and in such a capacity as to realize the most perfect form of such a community” (p. 162). My comment is this: a clash with Americans was bound to happen at some stage; this has nothing to do with the Communist leadership any more than it has to do with the Bush crime family. As a baseline position, we can assume that BOTH countries have the leaders they deserve. The clash is between two diametrically opposed mentalities which have spawned those leaders. And it may be stated that the clash is directly caused by the belligerent party: the cowboys.
But let’s move in a little closer to the subject under discussion. Lily Abegg on vaccination:

Vaccination against smallpox was discovered as long ago as the Tang period (618-907), yet this preventative measure is scarcely ever employed (p. 235) (…)
The same reason, namely sceptical antipathy towards causal connections, also lies behind the long-standing East Asian hesitation to interfere with the processes of nature. Why did the Chinese not make greater use of vaccination – their own invention – against smallpox? In the last resort – from fear lest the natural course of events, and therewith the rules of the cosmos, might be disturbed by arbitrary intervention of this sort on the part of man. There was the suspicion that the evil might reappear somewhere else if it were ‘artificially’ suppressed. (p. 242) (…)
Technology has no ‘life of its own’, it is no independent self-subsistent system of causality, but is essentially the work of man and is dependent on human volition and human striving. Technology cannot be developed ad infinitum if man is psychically unable to endure it. (p. 246)I come now to a book by Robert Temple based on the work of Joseph Needham: “The Genius of China: 3,000 years of science, discovery and invention”. (Yes, this is the same Robert Temple who wrote “The Sirius Mystery”, but that is totally irrelevant to the present discussion one way or the other.) My copy opened directly at pages 136-7, which presents a more conservative picture: inoculation against smallpox was discovered “when the eldest son of the Prime Minister Wang Tan (957-1017) died of smallpox”. OK, I am perfectly prepared to allow for a delay of 3 or 4 centuries: what were the Americans doing back then? And more importantly, what are both sides doing right now? If I simply quote the material we discover that we are doing something very similar, but very different, from what was being done back then – most notably very different from the “herd immunity” method. Most importantly, their method of inoculation corresponds to our method of… testing. I need a professional to explain what is going on here.

we find the subtlety of the Chinese inoculators to be truly astounding. They practiced a variety of methods for the attenuation of the deadly virus, so that the chances of getting the disease were minimized and the chances of immunity were maximized.
First of all, there was a strong prohibition against taking the smallpox material from people who actually had the disease. It was recognized that this would simply transmit it. They conceived of the inoculation as a ‘transplant’ of poxy material imagined as being like beansprouts which were just germinating. ‘To inoculate’ in Chinese was called chung tou or chung miao, meaning ‘to implant the germs’, or ‘implant the sprouts’.
The method used was to put the poxy material on a plug of cotton, which was then inserted into the nose. The pox was thus absorbed through the mucous membrane of the nose and by breathing. (The technique of scratching the skin and putting the pox on the scratch seems to have developed long afterwards, possibly in Central Asia as the technique spread westwards.)
Ideally, inoculators chose poxy material not from smallpox patients but from persons who had been inoculated themselves and had developed a few scabs. They also knew the difference between the two types of smallpox, Variola major and Variola minor, and they chose poxy material from the latter, which was a less virulent form. Indeed the favorite source of poxy material was from the scabs of someone who had been inoculated with material from somebody who had been inoculated with material from somebody who had been inoculated… In other words, a several-generations attenuation of the virus through multiple inoculations.
But there were other artificial methods used to attenuate the virus even further, so that it could be safer still. (…) (…)
In other words, 80 per cent of the smallpox viruses with which the Chinese were inoculated would have been dead ones which could not have given anyone smallpox. Instead, they would (as with vaccination) have stimulated the body to produce antibodies against smallpox, as well as the substance interferon which assists the immune system in general. So only about 20 per cent of the poxy material was ‘live’, and that was in as attenuated a form as it was possible to obtain, and of the Variola minor variety. Thus, traditional Chinese smallpox inoculation was about as safe as it could be, and every conceivable dodge was used to minimize the risk of its actually giving anyone smallpox.
Inoculation against smallpox in China did not become widely known and practiced until the period 1567-72………………So what can we conclude from the above? That the Chinese, exactly 1000 years ago, were more comfortable with vaccination than presentday Americans. Notice in passing how inoculation veers from allopathic medicine into homeopathy. See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110280-COVID-19-Contrarians&p=1341846&viewfull=1#post1341846).
But beware of making inferences, such as to say that such longstanding knowledge makes them prime candidates to manufacture a bioweapon: this would be to ignore the extreme reticence over centuries, the “suspicion that the evil might reappear somewhere else”. On the contrary, it makes them the perfect patsy in a classic Bush-CIA scenario. Even as I write this I learn of another tragedy (https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2020/04/04/deux-membres-de-la-famille-kennedy-portes-disparus-aux-etats-unis_6035522_3210.html)in the Kennedy family.
Let no one believe that China is to blame. The larger the death toll that they may be hiding, the more unlikely that would be the case. On the other hand, a group that could kill their own president would be perfectly motivated and content to kill off the whole country.

[araucaria]

I need to add something to my earlier post. The latest editorial in Charlie Hebdo took Macron to task about stating we are at war, this is a war. It said that no, we are just in a very bad sanitary crisis, which is bad enough without the military rhetoric. The only comparison to be made with war was perhaps the way the health service has been downsized for years, rather like the way Stalin purged the Red Army in the years leading up to the last war. It strikes me that protecting Stalin was more important than protecting Russia, leading to gross incompetence.

However, if Clif High’s reading has any merit, this may be looking in the wrong direction. It would mean Macron says it’s war because that is precisely what he means. So, let me add a few thoughts to that. First war is not intransitive or impersonal: you cannot say ”it’s war” like you say “it’s raining”. And on this forum, for the same reason, you cannot be content to say ”it’s a bioweapon” , as seems to be the habit. Such formulations carry no meaning. War begins by an act of aggression by X on Y. I still don’t know who X and Y are. China is one or the other, I’d like to know which. And China is facing, not Trump’s USA (or are they?) but an invisible Z, Bush’s deep state. Is Z shadowing the aggressor X, or the aggressed, Y? Is it not rather that Z is using stealth to aggress both X and Y? In other words, is the bioweapon US-manufactured or Chinese? You see, there is still a lot of spadework to be done on this before we get past the mere thought of ”it’s war” as some kind of climate change.

We come to another problem with the ”it’s war” approach: the word “war” is being taken to mean something it used to be but is no longer. An invisible enemy is a whole new war game. Clif High fails in a number of respects to take into account the invisibility factor. “A bioweapon was released”, he says; note the passive voice – no agent, it just happened.

He is also basing his interesting forty-minute analysis on one minute of madness: the premise that China’s state-owned enterprises have been disabled beyond repair, with somewhere between 8 and 15 million unreported deaths – based on phone sales, or the lack thereof. A quick search suggests he is referring to this site (https://deanblundell.com/news/15-million-people-in-china-suddenly-dropped-their-cell-service-last-month-just-saying/).
This needs to be compared with a report from THIS TIME LAST YEAR that came up in the same search, from Zhang Jie | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-03-13 (https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201903/13/WS5c8872fba3106c65c34ee5ff.html). This China Daily piece explains a 20% drop in 2019 by saying “February is an off-peak month for the phone industry”. It would appear that there are millions of deaths every year in China. If so, it would have to be the flu. Alternatively, people just choose a different time of year to buy their phones.


This is High’s basis for claiming that everything is finished with China: a dip in phone sales. Literally nothing happened: doubly so, for people didn’t buy a phone, and buying phones in February is something they tend not to do anyway. So if China still has its resources and is not hiding its embarrassment at taking out its own capacity to trade with the US (cui bono? Certainly not China), it will understand that the official US is not its enemy, then it can continue to do business with the official US and move together peaceably towards a more equitable trading relation whereby America and others start paying up towards humane working conditions in China. When they discover that Chinese labour has no reason to be cheaper than American labour, then the Americans can get back to producing their own goods, and the Chinese can stop sweating.

The thing about invisible enemies is that they only have as much leverage on real life as we give them. If we give them anything, they make a mountain of it. This happened with “Al Qaeda”, which was no more than a name (or crime syndicate) under which to lump all kinds of miscellaneous goings-on. Anything and everything happening: Al Qaeda did it; just look at how powerful they are, they have done all this stuff. Nonsense: things happened of course, but it had nothing to do with “Al Qaeda”. Likewise George HW Bush continues to act without lifting a little finger; he’s dead actually. The answer is simply to ignore what doesn’t exist. The astronomer Van Flandern explained how this is true for the universe generally: if ever there were a complete vacuum, then matter would simply cross that vacuum as if it wasn’t there. In other words, it isn’t there. That is the whole difficulty with our universe: not only does it contain everything that is, it also contains quite a bit of junk that actually isn’t.

[OurFreeSociety]

One trend that we are seeing that is highly revealing: alcohol sales are skyrocking.


Coronavirus-hit NYC sees online alcohol sales thrive
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/online-booze-coronavirus-nyc
As big businesses around the country shut their doors because of the coronavirus pandemic, a smaller group of stores is booming in New York City. Many of them sell booze online.

Online alcohol brand Drizly’s said it had its best day ever in terms of sales was Sunday. The sales beat orders for New Year’s Eve and Halloween, “which are usually our most popular days,” a representative for the company told the New York Post. At Minibar Delivery, on the other hand, sales were up 80 percent week-over-week compared to the previous Thursday.

“As people start to social distance,” Minibar Delivery co-founder and CEO, Lindsey Andrews, told the Post, “they are stocking up on all things including alcohol.”

Social interaction is also what keeps some former alcoholics from drinking. Most churches are now closed and since these are the most common venues for AA meetings, assumably, these meetings have ceased too. And reformed alcoholics also rely on not just nightly meetings but other social interactions they have all day long to keep themselves sane and sober.

And many people are driven to drink because of their home life. Many can cope with the pressures of their marriage, relationship or with parenting only because they get to leave home for five days of the week for most of the daylight hours. Now, if their home life is unpleasant, it is a 24 hour 7 day per week prison.

In our attempts to prevent a COVID-19 health epidemic, we are fueling the epidemic of addiction.

Thanks for pointing this out. I knew things were bad, but not being an alcholoic, I didn't think of this.

I already figured out that marriages & common laws will be ruined & lots of abuse will happen if it hasn't already.

People aren't used to seeing their partners & children 24/7 unless they planned it that way from the getgo.

I don't go out much myself, but now that I'm a prisoner most of the time in my home, I am feeling the stress BIG time.

People don't get that they are free human beings (at least in concept) so being held prisoner is very toxic to all parts of us. Physically, emotionally & spiritually & the evils know this.

That coupled with that we ALL need sunshine. I didn't relaize how healing the sun is until I watched a Mercola video a few months back.

I also didn't know that anchients used to worship the sun (before man made religion) & this is probably why the evils have been trying to kill the sun since around the 90's.

People who won't get sun & fresh air will start to literally go insane & I'm sure that's their plan as well. Helps to fast track ehtier depopulation agenda.

They ain't stupid. They are very very evil, but they ain't stupid - sigh


Something untold must be going on behind this covid19 crisis. I expressed that in my recent post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110242-Economic-and-Financial-Prognostications-Trends-and-Data-2020&p=1341253&viewfull=1#post1341253).

I am not claiming that the virus isn't lethal or problematic but if one compares this with deaths of other diseases, (or the fact that there are far more children dying per day than people die from the corona virus) it is nevertheless odd, why this so much propagandized.

I am personally aren't so much concerned about catching the virus, mostly because I take sound pre-cautions which are extensively described in relevant threads. (And thank you so much for the valuable data, like colloidal silver, oregano oil and many more.)

I am more worried of the consequences of governmental policies and restrictions for "the good of mankind".

Good for you for questioning the stats. Here's an article (https://europost.eu/en/a/view/necessary-measures-or-mass-panic-27724) for you & a vid (https://youtu.be/Rwb5QzJY2-s) (I haven't watched it yet) about how several scientists worldwide are saying the punishment doen't fit the crime.

We (us truthers) knew this a few weeks ago, but the criminal run MSM & the criminal gov't keeps pushing their propaganda, not to mention the evil face of vaccines, Bill Gates. Here's a timeline (https://ourfreesociety.com/bill-gates-and-the-coronavirus/) of how he (really they) prepped to rease the vaccine.

I haven't fact checked everything she did & I'm pretty positive she is backed by trumpet, but it was info I didn't know until I watched this earlier today

https://youtu.be/vYpU9p309r8
https://youtu.be/a7d6csBOQsM

This is war you know. War on the entire world.

I call it the holocaust on steoroisds & some people are now calling it the 4th Reich.

Most people don't know that the Germans (I don't want to blame the people, only the nazis) have had their hand in the US even before WWII & most people also don't know that the Rothschild & I believe some Americans bank rolled Hitler. He was supposedly a Rothchild.

I am in no way saying that the Germans are the only evils b/c they aren't.

There's Jews, Catholics (if you want to call them that) & of course the Jesuits on top.

Plus all the mafia families & even some good old fashioned athiests for good luck.




I'm thinking the possibility of the wordwide maneuvers to close borders and social isolation because of coronavirus aim to isolate China to drastically reduce the trade of chinese cheap products everywhere.

it's just a silly hunch here with myself, without relevance now.

Yeh, that was my first thought back when this all started, but I ditched that idea when the virus went worldwide, but we still don't know if people who get sick get sick b/c they were in contact with someone who traveled.

The Miltary Olympics were going oin just prior to the first case of CV, so many of us think it was releseed then, but I'm not 100% sure since I've read rumors that the first case started back in December.

The woman above (see link) has a different take on it which I hadn't heard before, so that was interesting.



We must remember that it was the Black Death that brought Europe out of the Middle Ages and caused the Renaissance. During the Middle Ages the elites (feudal lords) had everything the way they wanted: Lords, Knights and Serfs -- centuries of stagnation. But when the plague hit, the elites all headed for the hills, leaving the peasants to sort it out. By the time they came back from the country, the economy had changed, people were trading in a new, market economy. The upper class was suddenly irrelevant. Seems the natural state of affairs is freedom and prosperity. So with the thumb of the rich off the society, we had a Renaissance.

So I've never studied the black death, but I'll assume for the moment it wasn't man made & pre-planned, but I could be wrong.

At this point with all of the studying I've done & all the evil things I've read that they do, nothing shocks me anymore.

Even back then they knew of herbs that could harm people, but that wouldn't spread as far as contamination.

The main reason peoploe say there were any disease so many hundreds & thousands of years ago was due to no cleanliness & they didn't have toilets back then.

So no offense, but I disagree. You can't come out the other side when you are a prisoner (at least I can't). This isn't some natural phenomenan, this is 100% evil intent to kill off & control the etnire world using their varous different methods.

I would have liked to see people WAKE UP & start to gather to rebell, but they are still too brainwashed & weak to do so & again, that's 100% what the evils were aiming for.

They have been poisoning us for over a century & longer if you want to count the 2 industrial revolutions.

Men are no longer men & I'd guesstimate min. 75% can't even phathom the idea of fighting & if they can, they work for the criminal gov't. The gov't isn't even allowing soldiers to return to the US. One female soldier wanted to return & they told her no.

I'm all for spirtuality & peace when that's warranted, but this is a war, & you can't fight a war with loving someone. You have to face reality & too many people are still in denial about what is really going on.

Although I do know 100% that if we all pray/meditte at the same time over & over again (it has to be HUGE numbers) we can make a difference, but I'm not sure people even understand what they should be meditating for since they think this is all about the CV when it's not.

I was in shock the first time I realized that something was going on, but I still had hope at that point.

Then when I heard they were closing the market a few minutes at a time (this was at least 3 weeks ago), I realized they are trying to crash the economy WORLDWIDE & then I was hit like a ton of BRICKS.

I went thru 2 panic attacks & I never get panic attacks.

Now I've calmed down for the most part, but I'll still have bouts of anger & despair when I read more info on how they are speeding full steam ahead.

I'm waiting until this Friday to see if the Controlled Opp called Q is legit.

I know it's not, I know it's a farce meant to string along a good portion of the truthers, but the denial in me wants to believe I'm wrong & this was all just a way for the evils to be brought down by trumpet.

We'll see on the 10th.


I only know one thing...

Out of this, will come either a more controlled society, much worse than before, or a grand opportunity to change everything.. Including the financial structures. And the vast gaps with the inequality of life on this world.. It depends on what we do about it now..

For those that wanted this power grab? They had to disassemble everything, and in doing so, there are great risks that free thinkers will grab it back!

I just hope that those of us who are awake and aware of the potential outcomes of such a situation, are level headed, when their friends do begin to listen to them, as they will have no choice now. Behave responsibly folks, many people are frightened, many are angry... And they will want to know what you know, don't overwhelm them, calm them, but let them know, things are going to change.. And HOW they change depends on what we do..

What they change into, is in our hands. Should we choose to take on that responsibility. The ball has been set into motion.. Rather than feel we have been defeated, because they're pushing for more regulation, just remember, the ball just started rolling, and they have yet to make any goals. They just got the attention of ALL of the players on the field.. We just need to guide the rest of humanity now to do whats right.

Many are starting with nothing after this. And they're going to be mad, and very willing to start over as they will have no choice. They certainly aren't going to want to jump back into the same system that failed them.

The illusion that the government is there for us, has just crumbled. And they're fighting with their COG (Continuity of government) propaganda, to avoid a takeover by the people.. Had they never forgotten they worked for the people? Perhaps they wouldn't have to struggle so hard.

I see this as a golden opportunity to fix this world as well, if we want to put in the work. Those that thought we were "Fringe Conspiracy theorists" are now going to be willing to listen..

While those in power believe they have everything in their hands, truly the only power they have over us is the "perception" of power, and our men and women who believe their fighting the good fight for that illusion... the military. And while we can have the best of intentions, it will also require actions.

We need to come to the point where we say "Enough".. And if voting these crooks out of office hasn't worked, then we just need to stop supporting them, stop abiding by their archaic rules. Families being limited to the medical care they can receive, because their wages have been attached for lack of paying taxes into a corrupt system.. etc. it all has to stop.. Many of these people would never get sick to begin with if they were allowed to eat the foods that their incomes COULD have provided them...

It's just time. And it does start with the best of intentions. Because those laying down laws and regulations and consequences upon us, surely have laid out their own plans to enslave us.

If this is in the wrong place, please feel free to delete it.. But it all starts with the proper mindset, and I applaud this thread.

Kudos on being WOKE!!!

I agree with everything you said, but there's one very big problem.

They have 5G.

We can NOT fight 5G.

This is the main reason why they have imprisoned us.

Too many people worldwide were protesting against the weapon 5G. Now they are rushing to install it where they want it so they can stop or kill us when & if we fight back. Plus of course they use it to figure out who is disenting & then they take them out. It all works on huge facial recognition.

And how can we fight back when we are being forced to be in our homes, we can't be near anyone or touch anyone otherwise we will get fined or thrown in jail?

And I still can't believe that people actually WANT THIS.

This is why I realized 2 weeks ago that it wasn't a good idea to protest 5G.

Sure we don't want it, & sure we need to fight to keep it out of our area, BUT the bigger issue is that all the sheeples believe everything the criminal MSM & gov't tells them which is why they are embracing imprisonment & calling out for VACCINES!!!!

I've been attacked online once already 2 weeks ago. I had to leave the Discord server it was so bad.


I can be over the top in talking (LOL as if you can't already tell), so I didn't handle it well, which is why I created this today. Please pass it around - https://ourfreesociety.com/the-real-agenda/

The MOST important thing right now for ALL woke people to do, is slowly wake the deniars up.

We can't win this without them. And they will continue to fight us & rat us out. They are already rating people out & now there's a cop app for ratting out people who are outside.

The evils really thought of EVERYTHING.

Next they will probably start offering money to find disentors & they will pick us off one at a time.

And my issue is that I'm stuck oversesa & can't get back home to the US.

I was planning on moving back when I had enough money coming in on a regular basis & then this happened.

As of yesterday they are already starting to ask that you fill out health questionnaires EVERY DAY, & then today they said the word "test." It's in a foreignn language, but Google translate got that at least.

I will NOT be tested.

I've heard all sorts of rumors that it's there to either get our DNA which of course will be fed into the IOT, or it's there just to lie & say we have CV so they force us to take the vaccine.

I've already decided I won't let them force me, so my time on this earth is coming to an end pretty soon. And I can't even get the toxic herbs I planned on buying & get the other things I bought shipped to me. I have several things I bought & I needed to buy more, but I've heard that in the next 2 weeks masks will become mandatory & I will NOT wear one, & they plan on shutting the Internet down. If that's what's next, there will be NO shipping, I can tell you that much.

I also don't know what to do with the savings I had in my savings accounts, whether to trust a company that sells silver or what.

A couple of weeks ago someone said no, they won't shut down the net b/c they need do spew their lying propaganda, but someone today said this is what she heard.

I will DIE not having the Internet & so will millions of people.

Right now that's the only thing keeping most people sane.

I signed up for a Danish FB group to ask the Danes what they think about the fact that they are being forced to test & vaccinate.

I think 2 people responded & then the post was removed before I saw them.

Censorship is alive & WELL & the biggest problem we face is NOT the evils, but the people who are ignoratnt, low IQ or just REFUSE to wake up to what's going on.

This is no different than what happened pre-the holocoaust.

At the time there were rumors floating around, but the Jews who had lived there forever didn't want to leave, b/c that was their home.

They kept hoping things would change & of course it never did.

This is 100% that situation replaying itself 78 years later, but it's WAY worse b/c there is no country to save us, ALL of the governments are involved in this plan.





If you are an employer in the UK you get 80% help to pay up to £2500 per employee
If you are an employee in the UK you get up to £2500 of your salary paid by Govt

If you are one of the 5m self-employed you can get a crisis payment from the govt via UNIVERSAL credit - which appears to be a LOAN that you have to repay

Is this one way to financially enslave 10% of your population who have been independently not having to rely on the state?

You claim by calling 0800 169 0350.

Whats your thoughts on this?

From the point of view of psychological and/or sociological transitions one might argue that your suspicions are correct, that big govt. wants to pressure everyone to participate in the controlled economy rather than operate partially outside of it as the self-employed do.

Or the argument can be made that big govt. isn’t purposefully pushing this agenda but seems to be doing so out of laziness or lack of time and energy to thoroughly think these financial aid packages through before they’re made into law. This is pretty much happening in the US right now. The democrats appear to want to make efforts to think things through, but to me it just appears that they want to obfuscate the procedure because that’s what they do best. If they demonstrated a genuine desire to address things like stock buyouts and CEO salary and bonus raises they could probably get those items into the aid package bill without slowing it down.

There are always silly loopholes in laws that put money into the hands of those who need it. Too often this means that those most in need are shut out. Been there, done that. Student financial aid in the US is a huge example. The incongruities in the student financial aid system here can only be fully appreciated if you’re an adult at university. Which means you’re more likely to pay attention to everything you apply for and sign your name to. I’ve always found ways to make end-runs around any problems. Some would say I took advantage of the system.

I’ve been watching the legislation process in the US closely since it was announced that the feds may be sending out stimulus payments directly to citizens as other countries have. The hoops to jump through to receive those dollars and the persons who are eligible or not eligible provide clues to how those in power think.

That example in the UK you point to could be benign. Or it could be a blatant example of sociological changes to come. Time will tell. Be skeptical, though. I can’t think of anyone with half a brain who trusts big govt.

Wouldn’t it be nice if in the new world order we are the ones in charge? We would have just as many people blaming us for poor decisions as we blame our governments now. I’d love to see the tables turned, though. The issues would be real instead of contrived. That would be a game-changer.

One big problem with debating issues like this is that the data we have available comes mostly from controlled media. We aren’t privy to inside information.

To trust, or not to trust. THAT is the question.

Their whole agenda is to enslave us.

If you want their document here it is (https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006O6EHUA0?tab=publications).

I haven't read it b/c my brain won't be able to compute it & I'm too busy researching every day over 8 hours a day.

Reading that will just **** me up BIG time.

The woman who talked about it in her video said they plan on stopping ALL food & forcing us to eat lab created food & insects.

I'm a foodie & can NOT eat junk or poorly cooked food. It actually bothers me emotionally & physically.

Like I said above, I will be ending it before it gets to that, but I just thought I'd let people know what's coming.

https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006O6EHUA0?tab=publications


As for us being the ones in charge, that time has long since passed.

I know I'm repeating myself, but I tried to get people to collaborate with me 2 & 3 years ago & no one wanted to.

The evils have been planning this FOREVER. They've thought of everything, & that's also why they are rushing, so the majority of the world won't notice what's going on b/c they are literally too stupid.

Even people who think they are smart are stupid, b/c anyone who refuses to even look at what's going on (even before this happened) is, IMO, so closed minded & ignorant, they are the biggest threat to me & everyone else who's WOKE.

Larken Rose said that at a lecture once about how the statists are more of a threat to us than the gov't. I was like wow, that's right.

Oh was he soooo right. We are seeing it now.

People were fighting before & now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure that's one of the reasons trumpet was brought in, to divide the country even MORE than it had been before.

That's always what the evils want, b/c no collaboration & we are screwed.

The one thing the evils have ALWAYS had is collaboration & committment. They never waiver in their plan & if someone in the group does, they are killed.

Things like the right/left, different races, money/poor, education/no post secondary & even the bloody vegans against the meat eaters.

I heard the Vegan industry was created by the evils.




The latest Clif High video linked below presents some guidelines for the future. Not to say everything he says is gospel or that his language is palatable for all. But the kind of thinking he's doing is essential. Early adopters might score an advantage. Whiners will drag everyone else down. Opportunities will appear to those who put some energy into looking for them.

Or maybe fretting about martial law and forced vaccinations is the best thing to do. I don't think that's an approach to take to the future even if the National Guard is necessary to ensure essential traffic only on our bridges and highways. Get through the adjustment reactions and think ahead. -6CKWa3hBWs

I will try to remember to watch it. I have tons of videos I have to watch.

Thanks



Yes! We need forward thinking and a positive, "can do" attitude reflected here. In the video Clif says, "Make the new society what you want it to be". Can't we all just get on board with that and start working toward it? The membership of this forum is a huge brain trust - let's use all those smarts and start working together - right now - to build a new world!

The Handbook for the New Paradigm states (in Volume 1 Message 6):



At this point, you must not concern yourselves with the manifestation of their plan. You know of it, you are expecting it and so it must be ignored. Your focus must be on the moment and what is to be done.

Thanks for the comment. I didn’t expect any positive response to Clif’s video. I thought his timeline of 1 year and three years was sort of arbitrary. And I know lots of us aren’t about to follow his lead and sight our bows for the next deer hunt. It’s his attitude and willingness to develop the foresight to anticipate where we need to put our energies that’s important.

I wrote the following but decided not to post it. Yes, it is sort of half-baked. But this is what I was thinking yesterday. I’ve been taking a couple of days off to rest my brain from corona this and corona that.


If we were to pool our resources and imagine various paths that the future might take, then we could plot those probable timelines on a chart with descriptive labels for each. This would be a map of a discrete moment in time – as long as it takes for us to assemble the map. Once we have that map we can watch closely for any future events that provide clues as to which timeline we’re moving towards. Once we recognize the probable timeline that we’re following, we can create a new map. We would then be discarding useless information and focusing our attention on new trends.

There may be good reason to give such a thing a try.

The value in a forum like this is that learning can more easily evolve around ideas rather than revolve around people, as in book authors, academic authorities, you know, authority in general. We have our experiences and intuition to guide us. We should be able to see with better clarity than anyone or any group. If we all plot what we see individually, then match our results, it should be possible to see distinct branching probabilities. We have before us a magnificent natural laboratory, one that any sociologist would die for. The thing is, the entire world is a laboratory right now. Events are moving swiftly. It may not take long to see some radical changes of one sort or another. I’m not judging any particular change, good or bad. In the lab, change is change. It’s data - nothing to get upset about, just data. Maybe it would be good to take the focus off of gloom-and-dooming and to relax. What are some of the probable timelines that you can define?

It does seem like there’s a lot of attention focused on one little virus that you need a scanning electron microscope to see. Nevertheless, there’s lots going on in the world. And my point is that we are in the sandbox. It’s play time. No more snoozing. What might we learn if we put our intellects and hearts together on a few group projects with goals?

Lately I’ve been thinking about how important sleep is. Most everyone has been sleep deprived, up to this point. Maybe now there will be some extra time for sleep. But I’m thinking not of simply getting more sleep. In my way of thinking this may be a good time to develop a new relationship to sleep. Treating sleep as a meditation could lead to gaining more from sleep than simple rest. This is where my interest is at right now. I’m not certain how I might present this subject, but I have some good ideas to get started. At least this is a focus for my energy at this point in time.

Everyone will have their own unique talent or field of expertise to draw upon to contribute something of value. What we need to know now is what is going to be important in the future that we can prepare for now.

Yeh I'm not getting good sleep (not that I ever did). I wake up & have to stress about how to get a bus that only runs once an hour to get food & where to get the food b/c they closed down my veggie market & everyting else is garbage.

Then it's off to study & write articles & educate people.

I'm ALL game, but I don't want to type things out.

If you want a Think Tank (which is what I wanted for years), we need to do it properly on Zoom, although I heard Zoom is overloaded with people using it.

Not Skype as it's spy software from MS.

There are a few encrypted programs out there which is also why they are trying to pass a bill to spy on all encryption.

Thanks for the words of encouragement.

Hugs


I've not been posting much these past days but I've been writing nonetheless.

An odd thought came to me a few minutes ago. I was thinking about those $1200 checks that are supposed to be going out to each adult in the US. NPR estimates that those checks will amount to a total of 300 billion dollars. Divide that by $1200 and you have 250 million individual disbursements. Of those, let’s say 100 million US adults gave $100 of that $1200 to hire a president that could do the job. There would be 10 billion dollars to get a candidate elected. It's estimated that just over 1.5 billion was spent by both the Trump and Clinton campaigns in 2016.

If everyone who received a $1200 check gave $1 we would wield a cool 250 million. Five dollars each? $1.25 billion. NPR estimates that the total cost of those checks is 300 billion. One quarter of that is 75 billion. One quarter of $1200 is $300 that would have to be shared by each citizen who received a check. $75 billion dollars could fund something huge in this country.

Our government in the US is on the verge of providing us with the means to change society and government radically. All we have to do is to come together in ways that nobody suspects possible. Like a kind of harmonic convergence.

Or perhaps a totally above board GoFundMe campaign that’s funded by a portion of those government checks.

More importantly, the checks themselves can be used as an impetus to get people involved in important projects. Those checks are free money to quite a few individuals like myself who would do just as well without them. Even those who need that money badly might give $1 or $5 from the check if everyone else was talking about a viral GoFundMe.

I’m thinking an independent runner for president. One that not only had a lot of money behind them, but also the clout of how many adult recipients of those checks in the US? If even half donated to a campaign the value of the campaign could be in the tens of billions of dollars. How can we get the most bang for our buck? What we don't spend that money on is just as important as what we do spend it on.

Maybe one way to bring people together at this point in history is to propose a GoFundMe that people could not resist. No, I don’t mean free Snickers bars for life . . .

LOL

So I don't believe in crimianl gov'ts, so I can't help you there.

I would rather see the money put into communities.

I've already sort of thought about how the communities would run.

You can read this - https://ourfreesociety.com/free-communities/

They did research that concluded all communities should have no more than 8 people. Then each community is attached to the other communities & they all support one another.

There's already people on another site I have only been on a few times that are very interested in this & I've studied intentional communities off & on since 2000.

I am on the fence about them b/c I heard there can be huge power struggles from the founder.

A lot of people are now looking to run to Mx which is where I would love to go & had been thinking about it for the last few years, but you have to be making a certain amount (I wasn't & I'm certainly not now) & also I just heard you can't buy land.

The one problem that needs to be addressed is that the US gov't mafia will NOT allow us to do this.

I've heard all sorts of stories & I'm pretty positive that the fires in Cali were started on purpose by the evils to move people out of that area. I never studied it, but I know others who did. If you know what geoengineering is, but in this case all it takes is a drone or two to start a fire.

Even if this was doable before, now it would be impossible.

Why do you think they are saying only 2 people can be around you at any one time???

You think it's just an arbetrary number?

People in groups pose more of a threat than just 2 lone people.

People believe that this is not just a psychological ploy, but also a way to pick people off if they use their 5G weapon.

Anyway, enough of my talking.

Just so you know, I don't want to type everything out unless there's a formal meeting & I'm taking minutes.

I hate typnig things out for no reason. I spend every day typing non stop. I was looking to get the Dragon thingy (I think it's called), but I think the price increased to $300-500.

If you are serious about a meeting for a new Think Tank, we would need an encrypted online venue that's free & where we could have group meetings. I think WhatsApp allows multiple people to call, but don't quote me on that.

Thanks for the conversation & sweet dreams

I'm off to bed!

[Denise/Dizi]

It would mean Macron says it’s war because that is precisely what he means. So, let me add a few thoughts to that. First war is not intransitive or impersonal: you cannot say ”it’s war” like you say “it’s raining”. And on this forum, for the same reason, you cannot be content to say ”it’s a bioweapon” , as seems to be the habit. Such formulations carry no meaning. War begins by an act of aggression by X on Y. I still don’t know who X and Y are. China is one or the other, I’d like to know which. And China is facing, not Trump’s USA (or are they?) but an invisible Z, Bush’s deep state. Is Z shadowing the aggressor X, or the aggressed, Y? Is it not rather that Z is using stealth to aggress both X and Y? In other words, is the bioweapon US-manufactured or Chinese? You see, there is still a lot of spadework to be done on this before we get past the mere thought of ”it’s war” as some kind of climate change.

We come to another problem with the ”it’s war” approach: the word “war” is being taken to mean something it used to be but is no longer. An invisible enemy is a whole new war game. Clif High fails in a number of respects to take into account the invisibility factor. “A bioweapon was released”, he says; note the passive voice – no agent, it just happened.

He is also basing his interesting forty-minute analysis on one minute of madness: the premise that China’s state-owned enterprises have been disabled beyond repair, with somewhere between 8 and 15 million unreported deaths – based on phone sales, or the lack thereof. A quick search suggests he is referring to this site (https://deanblundell.com/news/15-million-people-in-china-suddenly-dropped-their-cell-service-last-month-just-saying/).
This needs to be compared with a report from THIS TIME LAST YEAR that came up in the same search, from Zhang Jie | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-03-13 (https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201903/13/WS5c8872fba3106c65c34ee5ff.html). This China Daily piece explains a 20% drop in 2019 by saying “February is an off-peak month for the phone industry”. It would appear that there are millions of deaths every year in China. If so, it would have to be the flu. Alternatively, people just choose a different time of year to buy their phones.


This is High’s basis for claiming that everything is finished with China: a dip in phone sales. Literally nothing happened: doubly so, for people didn’t buy a phone, and buying phones in February is something they tend not to do anyway. So if China still has its resources and is not hiding its embarrassment at taking out its own capacity to trade with the US (cui bono? Certainly not China), it will understand that the official US is not its enemy, then it can continue to do business with the official US and move together peaceably towards a more equitable trading relation whereby America and others start paying up towards humane working conditions in China. When they discover that Chinese labour has no reason to be cheaper than American labour, then the Americans can get back to producing their own goods, and the Chinese can stop sweating.

The thing about invisible enemies is that they only have as much leverage on real life as we give them. If we give them anything, they make a mountain of it. This happened with “Al Qaeda”, which was no more than a name (or crime syndicate) under which to lump all kinds of miscellaneous goings-on. Anything and everything happening: Al Qaeda did it; just look at how powerful they are, they have done all this stuff. Nonsense: things happened of course, but it had nothing to do with “Al Qaeda”. Likewise George HW Bush continues to act without lifting a little finger; he’s dead actually. The answer is simply to ignore what doesn’t exist. The astronomer Van Flandern explained how this is true for the universe generally: if ever there were a complete vacuum, then matter would simply cross that vacuum as if it wasn’t there. In other words, it isn’t there. That is the whole difficulty with our universe: not only does it contain everything that is, it also contains quite a bit of junk that actually isn’t.

THANK YOU!

There are few who are recognizing that all of the governments are claiming this "Pandemic" is a "War"... and what that truly means.. When America went to "War" after 9/11 we were fighting others... Make no mistake about that.. When we went back and engaged in more war, there was fighting going on.. This is too, a war.. I think that what they say is exactly that, this is an invisible enemy.. Hence all countries grabbing their citizens back as soon as possible, we don't know who set this virus free... and if we do, they're not saying...

The question then becomes, did someone hit China? Or did China mishandle one of their own weapons?

Either way, most would agree that China let the virus out. Whether in irresponsible handling of it, or deliberately. Or this is what we are being led to believe. Rumor in my neck of the woods is that this was a Chinese bioweapon designed to "weaken an enemy" before attack, and they inadvertently released it, destroyed almost everyone in the epicenter. The numbers being highly sanitized... Yet this could be propaganda, and they're not weakened at all...

And as such, the military would of course take into consideration that there may still be some plans to attack other weakened states. Perhaps throwing Wuhan under the bus for media sake..

With the way that they hide their information for public consumption, we really don't know how bad things got there.. either less or more. Nor are we certain that it was THEIR bioweapon. But I think most would agree at this point, this is not the regular flu..

I think regardless of what is going on, all of the countries shutting down, for both safety and preparations "Just in case" is a good thing. If nothing else, it places us all on the same field when it comes to recovery. And or the same level playing field in terms of gathering their own forces to combat something that may well still be coming.. Only war in this day and age is going to be like nothing we have ever seen before. I think we have been at war for decades, viruses, V2K being used on populations, etc.. They just don't openly admit it. But it just stepped up a notch..

So there we have it, we are at war... And those at the top are agreeing as much.

I don't have all the details, and what I hear is gossip at best.. But the storm just started. Hang in there everyone, this is going to get ugly.

[OurFreeSociety]

One trend that we are seeing that is highly revealing: alcohol sales are skyrocking.


Coronavirus-hit NYC sees online alcohol sales thrive
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/online-booze-coronavirus-nyc
As big businesses around the country shut their doors because of the coronavirus pandemic, a smaller group of stores is booming in New York City. Many of them sell booze online.

Online alcohol brand Drizly’s said it had its best day ever in terms of sales was Sunday. The sales beat orders for New Year’s Eve and Halloween, “which are usually our most popular days,” a representative for the company told the New York Post. At Minibar Delivery, on the other hand, sales were up 80 percent week-over-week compared to the previous Thursday.

“As people start to social distance,” Minibar Delivery co-founder and CEO, Lindsey Andrews, told the Post, “they are stocking up on all things including alcohol.”

Not just online retailers, but liquor stores are doing well too, some reporting a 150% increase in sales. The main stream media is reporting that since restaurants and bar are either forcibly closed, or just have fewer patrons, that people are replacing their public consumption of alcohol with private consumption. I don’t think that tells the real story and something far more sinister is happening.

People drink alcohol for various reasons and the reasons they drink in public are often different from those that explain why they drink in private. Public/social drinkers drink because they are celebrating, socializing, enjoying good food that pairs well with alcoholic beverages, etc. For many of them, they do not drink when they are home. This might be because they don’t enjoy drinking alone, or because they know that a distinction between public and private drinking is what keeps them from descending into alcoholism.

Social interaction is also what keeps some former alcoholics from drinking. Most churches are now closed and since these are the most common venues for AA meetings, assumably, these meetings have ceased too. And reformed alcoholics also rely on not just nightly meetings but other social interactions they have all day long to keep themselves sane and sober.

And many people are driven to drink because of their home life. Many can cope with the pressures of their marriage, relationship or with parenting only because they get to leave home for five days of the week for most of the daylight hours. Now, if their home life is unpleasant, it is a 24 hour 7 day per week prison.

In our attempts to prevent a COVID-19 health epidemic, we are fueling the epidemic of addiction.


Something untold must be going on behind this covid19 crisis. I expressed that in my recent post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110242-Economic-and-Financial-Prognostications-Trends-and-Data-2020&p=1341253&viewfull=1#post1341253).

I am not claiming that the virus isn't lethal or problematic but if one compares this with deaths of other diseases, (or the fact that there are far more children dying per day than people die from the corona virus) it is nevertheless odd, why this so much propagandized.

I am personally aren't so much concerned about catching the virus, mostly because I take sound pre-cautions which are extensively described in relevant threads. (And thank you so much for the valuable data, like colloidal silver, oregano oil and many more.)

I am more worried of the consequences of governmental policies and restrictions for "the good of mankind".


I'm thinking the possibility of the wordwide maneuvers to close borders and social isolation because of coronavirus aim to isolate China to drastically reduce the trade of chinese cheap products everywhere.

it's just a silly hunch here with myself, without relevance now.


I was told they want to take your free Will and create the end of the world. This is nothing but a global experiment of control and feeding on your fear. There is a spiritual war going on which Will do ide the masse. Feed i to fear such as go er ment elite wish. Or to create love and change. Love Who is our creator desires us to fight the systems of the world. If you SEE you can do No wrong in love. Forgive and cherish what we have already. Be greatful etc use virtues get out of egos.
I SEE surpression of our freedom. Against love becsuse love provides us a way out and to Explorer.
Separation. When you Are separate you Are weak dispair kicks in you Are left bare. If we stick together we Are stronhger. Cant you SEE what they Are trying to do.
They Are trying to create a cashless society. Locally they Are using cross contamination as an excuse to stop handling Cash.
They Are stripping enjoyment Joy and fun is being stopped. Love create fun times etc.
The way i feel they Are testning the water. They already had Yahoo news stating surveilence is the only method to control the spread.
This is it folks. Get following Jesus christ and love. Seriously bevause Faith belief and being fearless and having a strong conpoment to say No to the vaccine. If they said we need a vaccine i personally Will refuse it.
How do you know If its got a chip or some nanopartical in it. Not everyone is going to take it but If you make it for ed then that makes se se.
This is a time to share and help eachother. Dont get i to fights dont create more fear let create gratitude wisdom and love. They got rid of ppl Who Are creating love so the strong ones get knocked out first. Thats what i SEE my Angels always said No matter what evil tells you say No and yes to love. happening anyway peace

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We must remember that it was the Black Death that brought Europe out of the Middle Ages and caused the Renaissance. During the Middle Ages the elites (feudal lords) had everything the way they wanted: Lords, Knights and Serfs -- centuries of stagnation. But when the plague hit, the elites all headed for the hills, leaving the peasants to sort it out. By the time they came back from the country, the economy had changed, people were trading in a new, market economy. The upper class was suddenly irrelevant. Seems the natural state of affairs is freedom and prosperity. So with the thumb of the rich off the society, we had a Renaissance.


I only know one thing...

Out of this, will come either a more controlled society, much worse than before, or a grand opportunity to change everything.. Including the financial structures. And the vast gaps with the inequality of life on this world.. It depends on what we do about it now..

For those that wanted this power grab? They had to disassemble everything, and in doing so, there are great risks that free thinkers will grab it back!

I just hope that those of us who are awake and aware of the potential outcomes of such a situation, are level headed, when their friends do begin to listen to them, as they will have no choice now. Behave responsibly folks, many people are frightened, many are angry... And they will want to know what you know, don't overwhelm them, calm them, but let them know, things are going to change.. And HOW they change depends on what we do..

What they change into, is in our hands. Should we choose to take on that responsibility. The ball has been set into motion.. Rather than feel we have been defeated, because they're pushing for more regulation, just remember, the ball just started rolling, and they have yet to make any goals. They just got the attention of ALL of the players on the field.. We just need to guide the rest of humanity now to do whats right.

Many are starting with nothing after this. And they're going to be mad, and very willing to start over as they will have no choice. They certainly aren't going to want to jump back into the same system that failed them.

The illusion that the government is there for us, has just crumbled. And they're fighting with their COG (Continuity of government) propaganda, to avoid a takeover by the people.. Had they never forgotten they worked for the people? Perhaps they wouldn't have to struggle so hard.

I see this as a golden opportunity to fix this world as well, if we want to put in the work. Those that thought we were "Fringe Conspiracy theorists" are now going to be willing to listen..

While those in power believe they have everything in their hands, truly the only power they have over us is the "perception" of power, and our men and women who believe their fighting the good fight for that illusion... the military. And while we can have the best of intentions, it will also require actions.

We need to come to the point where we say "Enough".. And if voting these crooks out of office hasn't worked, then we just need to stop supporting them, stop abiding by their archaic rules. Families being limited to the medical care they can receive, because their wages have been attached for lack of paying taxes into a corrupt system.. etc. it all has to stop.. Many of these people would never get sick to begin with if they were allowed to eat the foods that their incomes COULD have provided them...

It's just time. And it does start with the best of intentions. Because those laying down laws and regulations and consequences upon us, surely have laid out their own plans to enslave us.

If this is in the wrong place, please feel free to delete it.. But it all starts with the proper mindset, and I applaud this thread.



If you are an employer in the UK you get 80% help to pay up to £2500 per employee
If you are an employee in the UK you get up to £2500 of your salary paid by Govt

If you are one of the 5m self-employed you can get a crisis payment from the govt via UNIVERSAL credit - which appears to be a LOAN that you have to repay

Is this one way to financially enslave 10% of your population who have been independently not having to rely on the state?

You claim by calling 0800 169 0350.

Whats your thoughts on this?


From the point of view of psychological and/or sociological transitions one might argue that your suspicions are correct, that big govt. wants to pressure everyone to participate in the controlled economy rather than operate partially outside of it as the self-employed do.

Or the argument can be made that big govt. isn’t purposefully pushing this agenda but seems to be doing so out of laziness or lack of time and energy to thoroughly think these financial aid packages through before they’re made into law. This is pretty much happening in the US right now. The democrats appear to want to make efforts to think things through, but to me it just appears that they want to obfuscate the procedure because that’s what they do best. If they demonstrated a genuine desire to address things like stock buyouts and CEO salary and bonus raises they could probably get those items into the aid package bill without slowing it down.

There are always silly loopholes in laws that put money into the hands of those who need it. Too often this means that those most in need are shut out. Been there, done that. Student financial aid in the US is a huge example. The incongruities in the student financial aid system here can only be fully appreciated if you’re an adult at university. Which means you’re more likely to pay attention to everything you apply for and sign your name to. I’ve always found ways to make end-runs around any problems. Some would say I took advantage of the system.

I’ve been watching the legislation process in the US closely since it was announced that the feds may be sending out stimulus payments directly to citizens as other countries have. The hoops to jump through to receive those dollars and the persons who are eligible or not eligible provide clues to how those in power think.

That example in the UK you point to could be benign. Or it could be a blatant example of sociological changes to come. Time will tell. Be skeptical, though. I can’t think of anyone with half a brain who trusts big govt.

Wouldn’t it be nice if in the new world order we are the ones in charge? We would have just as many people blaming us for poor decisions as we blame our governments now. I’d love to see the tables turned, though. The issues would be real instead of contrived. That would be a game-changer.

One big problem with debating issues like this is that the data we have available comes mostly from controlled media. We aren’t privy to inside information.

To trust, or not to trust. THAT is the question.


The latest Clif High video linked below presents some guidelines for the future. Not to say everything he says is gospel or that his language is palatable for all. But the kind of thinking he's doing is essential. Early adopters might score an advantage. Whiners will drag everyone else down. Opportunities will appear to those who put some energy into looking for them.

Or maybe fretting about martial law and forced vaccinations is the best thing to do. I don't think that's an approach to take to the future even if the National Guard is necessary to ensure essential traffic only on our bridges and highways. Get through the adjustment reactions and think ahead. -6CKWa3hBWs



Yes! We need forward thinking and a positive, "can do" attitude reflected here. In the video Clif says, "Make the new society what you want it to be". Can't we all just get on board with that and start working toward it? The membership of this forum is a huge brain trust - let's use all those smarts and start working together - right now - to build a new world!

The Handbook for the New Paradigm states (in Volume 1 Message 6):


At this point, you must not concern yourselves with the manifestation of their plan. You know of it, you are expecting it and so it must be ignored. Your focus must be on the moment and what is to be done.

Thanks for the comment. I didn’t expect any positive response to Clif’s video. I thought his timeline of 1 year and three years was sort of arbitrary. And I know lots of us aren’t about to follow his lead and sight our bows for the next deer hunt. It’s his attitude and willingness to develop the foresight to anticipate where we need to put our energies that’s important.

I wrote the following but decided not to post it. Yes, it is sort of half-baked. But this is what I was thinking yesterday. I’ve been taking a couple of days off to rest my brain from corona this and corona that.


If we were to pool our resources and imagine various paths that the future might take, then we could plot those probable timelines on a chart with descriptive labels for each. This would be a map of a discrete moment in time – as long as it takes for us to assemble the map. Once we have that map we can watch closely for any future events that provide clues as to which timeline we’re moving towards. Once we recognize the probable timeline that we’re following, we can create a new map. We would then be discarding useless information and focusing our attention on new trends.

There may be good reason to give such a thing a try.

The value in a forum like this is that learning can more easily evolve around ideas rather than revolve around people, as in book authors, academic authorities, you know, authority in general. We have our experiences and intuition to guide us. We should be able to see with better clarity than anyone or any group. If we all plot what we see individually, then match our results, it should be possible to see distinct branching probabilities. We have before us a magnificent natural laboratory, one that any sociologist would die for. The thing is, the entire world is a laboratory right now. Events are moving swiftly. It may not take long to see some radical changes of one sort or another. I’m not judging any particular change, good or bad. In the lab, change is change. It’s data - nothing to get upset about, just data. Maybe it would be good to take the focus off of gloom-and-dooming and to relax. What are some of the probable timelines that you can define?

It does seem like there’s a lot of attention focused on one little virus that you need a scanning electron microscope to see. Nevertheless, there’s lots going on in the world. And my point is that we are in the sandbox. It’s play time. No more snoozing. What might we learn if we put our intellects and hearts together on a few group projects with goals?

Lately I’ve been thinking about how important sleep is. Most everyone has been sleep deprived, up to this point. Maybe now there will be some extra time for sleep. But I’m thinking not of simply getting more sleep. In my way of thinking this may be a good time to develop a new relationship to sleep. Treating sleep as a meditation could lead to gaining more from sleep than simple rest. This is where my interest is at right now. I’m not certain how I might present this subject, but I have some good ideas to get started. At least this is a focus for my energy at this point in time.

Everyone will have their own unique talent or field of expertise to draw upon to contribute something of value. What we need to know now is what is going to be important in the future that we can prepare for now.


I've not been posting much these past days but I've been writing nonetheless.

An odd thought came to me a few minutes ago. I was thinking about those $1200 checks that are supposed to be going out to each adult in the US. NPR estimates that those checks will amount to a total of 300 billion dollars. Divide that by $1200 and you have 250 million individual disbursements. Of those, let’s say 100 million US adults gave $100 of that $1200 to hire a president that could do the job. There would be 10 billion dollars to get a candidate elected. It's estimated that just over 1.5 billion was spent by both the Trump and Clinton campaigns in 2016.

If everyone who received a $1200 check gave $1 we would wield a cool 250 million. Five dollars each? $1.25 billion. NPR estimates that the total cost of those checks is 300 billion. One quarter of that is 75 billion. One quarter of $1200 is $300 that would have to be shared by each citizen who received a check. $75 billion dollars could fund something huge in this country.

Our government in the US is on the verge of providing us with the means to change society and government radically. All we have to do is to come together in ways that nobody suspects possible. Like a kind of harmonic convergence.

Or perhaps a totally above board GoFundMe campaign that’s funded by a portion of those government checks.

More importantly, the checks themselves can be used as an impetus to get people involved in important projects. Those checks are free money to quite a few individuals like myself who would do just as well without them. Even those who need that money badly might give $1 or $5 from the check if everyone else was talking about a viral GoFundMe.

I’m thinking an independent runner for president. One that not only had a lot of money behind them, but also the clout of how many adult recipients of those checks in the US? If even half donated to a campaign the value of the campaign could be in the tens of billions of dollars. How can we get the most bang for our buck? What we don't spend that money on is just as important as what we do spend it on.

Maybe one way to bring people together at this point in history is to propose a GoFundMe that people could not resist. No, I don’t mean free Snickers bars for life . . .



It would mean Macron says it’s war because that is precisely what he means. So, let me add a few thoughts to that. First war is not intransitive or impersonal: you cannot say ”it’s war” like you say “it’s raining”. And on this forum, for the same reason, you cannot be content to say ”it’s a bioweapon” , as seems to be the habit. Such formulations carry no meaning. War begins by an act of aggression by X on Y. I still don’t know who X and Y are. China is one or the other, I’d like to know which. And China is facing, not Trump’s USA (or are they?) but an invisible Z, Bush’s deep state. Is Z shadowing the aggressor X, or the aggressed, Y? Is it not rather that Z is using stealth to aggress both X and Y? In other words, is the bioweapon US-manufactured or Chinese? You see, there is still a lot of spadework to be done on this before we get past the mere thought of ”it’s war” as some kind of climate change.

We come to another problem with the ”it’s war” approach: the word “war” is being taken to mean something it used to be but is no longer. An invisible enemy is a whole new war game. Clif High fails in a number of respects to take into account the invisibility factor. “A bioweapon was released”, he says; note the passive voice – no agent, it just happened.

He is also basing his interesting forty-minute analysis on one minute of madness: the premise that China’s state-owned enterprises have been disabled beyond repair, with somewhere between 8 and 15 million unreported deaths – based on phone sales, or the lack thereof. A quick search suggests he is referring to this site (https://deanblundell.com/news/15-million-people-in-china-suddenly-dropped-their-cell-service-last-month-just-saying/).
This needs to be compared with a report from THIS TIME LAST YEAR that came up in the same search, from Zhang Jie | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2019-03-13 (https://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201903/13/WS5c8872fba3106c65c34ee5ff.html). This China Daily piece explains a 20% drop in 2019 by saying “February is an off-peak month for the phone industry”. It would appear that there are millions of deaths every year in China. If so, it would have to be the flu. Alternatively, people just choose a different time of year to buy their phones.


This is High’s basis for claiming that everything is finished with China: a dip in phone sales. Literally nothing happened: doubly so, for people didn’t buy a phone, and buying phones in February is something they tend not to do anyway. So if China still has its resources and is not hiding its embarrassment at taking out its own capacity to trade with the US (cui bono? Certainly not China), it will understand that the official US is not its enemy, then it can continue to do business with the official US and move together peaceably towards a more equitable trading relation whereby America and others start paying up towards humane working conditions in China. When they discover that Chinese labour has no reason to be cheaper than American labour, then the Americans can get back to producing their own goods, and the Chinese can stop sweating.

The thing about invisible enemies is that they only have as much leverage on real life as we give them. If we give them anything, they make a mountain of it. This happened with “Al Qaeda”, which was no more than a name (or crime syndicate) under which to lump all kinds of miscellaneous goings-on. Anything and everything happening: Al Qaeda did it; just look at how powerful they are, they have done all this stuff. Nonsense: things happened of course, but it had nothing to do with “Al Qaeda”. Likewise George HW Bush continues to act without lifting a little finger; he’s dead actually. The answer is simply to ignore what doesn’t exist. The astronomer Van Flandern explained how this is true for the universe generally: if ever there were a complete vacuum, then matter would simply cross that vacuum as if it wasn’t there. In other words, it isn’t there. That is the whole difficulty with our universe: not only does it contain everything that is, it also contains quite a bit of junk that actually isn’t.

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There are few who are recognizing that all of the governments are claiming this "Pandemic" is a "War"... and what that truly means.. When America went to "War" after 9/11 we were fighting others... Make no mistake about that.. When we went back and engaged in more war, there was fighting going on.. This is too, a war.. I think that what they say is exactly that, this is an invisible enemy.. Hence all countries grabbing their citizens back as soon as possible, we don't know who set this virus free... and if we do, they're not saying...

The question then becomes, did someone hit China? Or did China mishandle one of their own weapons?

Either way, most would agree that China let the virus out. Whether in irresponsible handling of it, or deliberately. Or this is what we are being led to believe. Rumor in my neck of the woods is that this was a Chinese bioweapon designed to "weaken an enemy" before attack, and they inadvertently released it, destroyed almost everyone in the epicenter. The numbers being highly sanitized... Yet this could be propaganda, and they're not weakened at all...

And as such, the military would of course take into consideration that there may still be some plans to attack other weakened states. Perhaps throwing Wuhan under the bus for media sake..

With the way that they hide their information for public consumption, we really don't know how bad things got there.. either less or more. Nor are we certain that it was THEIR bioweapon. But I think most would agree at this point, this is not the regular flu..

I think regardless of what is going on, all of the countries shutting down, for both safety and preparations "Just in case" is a good thing. If nothing else, it places us all on the same field when it comes to recovery. And or the same level playing field in terms of gathering their own forces to combat something that may well still be coming.. Only war in this day and age is going to be like nothing we have ever seen before. I think we have been at war for decades, viruses, V2K being used on populations, etc.. They just don't openly admit it. But it just stepped up a notch..

So there we have it, we are at war... And those at the top are agreeing as much.

I don't have all the details, and what I hear is gossip at best.. But the storm just started. Hang in there everyone, this is going to get ugly.

I'm sorry, but you actually think that the holocaust is a GOOD thing??? WOW

Please, this is NOT about the CV. This is about taking down humanity & sheer utter CONTROL!!!

If you want links, just ask me, but PLEASE do not tell everyone that's it's a good thing that we should be prisoners, tracked, chipped, forced with a vaccine, etc. etc.

Today both where I am & in the US they released that you can't go anywhere without your mask on & I couldn't even get on the bus without it & they are supidly taking everyone's temperature before they walk into the stores now.

I have a feeling the masks are tainted with something.

It makes logical sense to me that if I were the evils, I would put something on them knowing that people will be breathing into them, touching them, then touching the buses, etc.

In fact my eyes are itching me & they were NOT itching me before I left to go out shopping today.

AND they are going to start forcing everyone to take this test which either:

1. Tracks your DNA
2. Gives you the CV so you test positive

Or both

[Denise/Dizi]

I do not know who you are replying to OurFreeSociety... But welcome to Avalon... What a crazy time to join right?

I do believe that the virus was a weapon.. Where it came from? I do not know if that will ever be exposed.. I do not believe that the holocaust was a good thing, so I do hope that you were not replying to me...

Having said that, your replies tend to read as if you are extremely worried that this is some hostile take over of the masses... As if the "cabal" is finally playing their last card against humanity... I know that there is a lot going on, but it will take much more than one virus to gain full control over everyone.. So relax just a little. On cannot see the whole picture if they focus and panic over one detail.. The virus is here, we're dealing with it. Sure there will be more to come, but for now this is a big hurdle.

I would like to just share my own thoughts on some of your comments... You need not agree, but it may help bridge some gaps... so that you do not feel the need to post in ways that almost seem as if you are panicking, and we are asleep. Rest assured, the people that you are speaking to here are more awake than you could possibly know... That's why they're not panicking.. but engaging in conversations to discuss opinions and such.





I'm sorry, but you actually think that the holocaust is a GOOD thing??? WOW

Please, this is NOT about the CV. This is about taking down humanity & sheer utter CONTROL!!!
Right now for many this IS about the coronavirus.. Those falling ill and passing away, those treating them, those giving up daily luxuries to make sure not to contribute to the numbers.. For them this is about the virus right now..

But rest assured, it has not gone unnoticed that this would also be a very perfect time to try to grab more freedoms from the people... IT IS BEING MONITORED, AND SKIRTED.. I do not want you to believe that it isn't..

If you want links, just ask me, but PLEASE do not tell everyone that's it's a good thing that we should be prisoners, tracked, chipped, forced with a vaccine, etc. etc.

Right now there is a LOT of information out there.. and equally there is a lot of misinformation out there... Rest assured many of us here have read all of those links, shared them, spoken about them, in fact I can point you to multiple threads that suggest just that.. very thoughtful contemplation of the issues you are describing, in varying degrees of detail.. You would probably be amazed at the mount of information that you could find here on Avalon alone! All archived and ready for viewing. The words of many great researchers set aside for others to examine.

You say we should not tell everyone that's it's a good thing that we should be prisoners, tracked, chipped, forced with a vaccine, etc. etc.

I have not heard of one person being forcibly chipped, forcibly given a vaccine, or that we have become prisoners.. I am free to walk outside of my house right now... I am free to get into my car and drive.. I am in one of the sates hit the hardest right now, and the family business is suffering, yet I haven't heard of one legitimate person suggestion any of these things were FORCED upon them...

Today both where I am & in the US they released that you can't go anywhere without your mask on This is not true, it is "Recommended" in the US, I LIVE HERE & I couldn't even get on the bus without it This makes good sense as commuters are not generally confined together so it can make the virus spread faster and you are in a tight environment with others... This is smart to stop the spread.. And in no way harms you to do so... & they are supidly taking everyone's temperature before they walk into the stores now.This measure is to keep those with active virus from spreading it further...

This is not any of the things that you listed above. They're suggesting if you go outside, if not to protect yourself, then at least to protect others, please wear a mask... If you do not, others will not and the virus will never settle down, forcing them to add more time to quarantine, nothing about "Chips", "vaccines", or prisoners here, just a polite way to interact with those in your immediate area.. If you choose to go outside.. They're not chaining you up and hauling you off, they're merely asking you not to breath on others.. Stay a safe distance apart... If they had come along and rounded up everyone that walked outside with force, I would think this was a negative thing, but they're just asking you to be POLITE and RESPONSIBLE.. If you can't do that they very possible might imprison you, because then you become a risk to your community.

I have a feeling the masks are tainted with something.

Again, I believe that you may be a bit paranoid. You are allowed to make your OWN masks here in America to wear. Why would people contaminate their own face masks?

It makes logical sense to me that if I were the evils, I would put something on them knowing that people will be breathing into them, touching them, then touching the buses, etc.

In fact my eyes are itching me & they were NOT itching me before I left to go out shopping today.

It is still flu season, allergy season, and there are a lot of mold spores and such in the air as well. Going outside during this time of year always turns on my natural allergies.. You may just have allergies..

Is it possible that you may be on information overload right now? Yes, we do need to pay attention to the possibility of a take over attempt, but right now we have an entire planet in their homes because they want to give their friends, and family and neighbors the best opportunity to survive this.. Even at the risk of the financial systems tanking. People come first... We all are going to be crawling out of this in many ways wounded.. Income loss, stress, no job, etc.. But panicking about this and that, serves no useful purpose.

AND they are going to start forcing everyone to take this test which either:

1. Tracks your DNA
2. Gives you the CV so you test positive

Or both
Our DNA was collected at birth in America.. We have been tracked all along.. We have id numbers, census records, it is all tracked so the government knows who is a part of their system, where they live, their assets, they stepped that up long ago with DNA ancestry kits.. Look.. none of this stuff just happened... It has been happening for a very long time.. You must understand that to do what you are suggesting has to evolve.. And it has been, I will grant you that.. But they're NOT testing many Americans to save those tests for those who are truly ill.. You are hyping things that are not happening.. I do not need to take my temperature to shop, nor do I have to take a dna test.. OR a coronavirus test...

I worry that with your mindset, you won't wear your mask when asked, and you may just get the virus out of fear that someone is out to get you. Just know, there are soooo many patriots watching this play out right now and if they see anything that would imply a hostile takeover, they would spring to action.. But they're wearing masks hun... They know this virus is real, and if it isn't they know something that makes them believe the mask in some way can protect them from SOMETHING...

I fear that your worry will put others at risk.. Or worse panic them... We have all been paying attention to those things happening around us, and keeping in contact about what we are truly seeing and or hearing. We are sifting through what we are being told, and some are either validating it, by way of going to those places and taking videos, or not, and exposing the lies...

You ARE at more risk of getting the virus if you choose to continue to go out, but no one is deliberately infecting you..

If you would like to PM me? I would happily follow your links, watch them, and then have a conversation with you about such things.. I do not want you to believe me, I want you to see a larger picture, so you are not buying into fear porn.. If nothing else, I may be able to help you relax a little, so your mind isn't so tuned to worry and fear, and the thought that we need to take actions today.

Today we need to be alert, yes, but not in a state of reaction.. So I will watch your videos.. But remember, you cannot affect change in a positive way if you are so worked up that you're living in anger and fear. You need to be in a calm place so that you can think clearly.. And then have a reasonable reaction.

It sounds like they're asking you to wear masks in public, which means you can move around, and because you're using public transportation they're trying to merely limit their liability, all reasonable requests. Same with the stores... Think about it that way.. They're not shoving needles into you..

While this may make you uncomfortable, this is about the whole, and many will be inconvenienced. If you want to avoid that, stay home, stay in your local area, walk around the block. But do, for your own sake, wear a mask if they're suggesting it is a good idea. Make one yourself, there are many videos online of people doing just that. And then you will not have to worry that those are also contaminated. Empower yourself in these ways rather than buying into fear.

[OurFreeSociety]

Ok, so Denise, this is for you.

I can't quote your comments b/c they were all lumped together & it got to be too much.

I'm a bullet point type of person so it's easier to read, so I'm going to respond that way.

The one thing I agree with you on is that I am on information overload. I admit it. I've slept less in the last 3 weeks than I have in the last 10 years.

1. First off, I'm not in the US, I'm overseas & from what I've gathered, a few places in the US still have freedoms in place, but since they are rushing this takedown, what you say today won't be your reality tomorrow. That I can guarantee.

2. Today someone I speak to in another city where I am said their entire city is now on lockdown & she won't be able to go anywhere. In my city there's only 2 buses running & if there's more than 10 people (I think it is), they won't let you on AND the buses are only running once every 33 mins. & once every 1 hr. Normally there's 5 buses & they run every 15-20 mins.

I've already had to kill myself & walk 45 mins. from a grocery store 3 weeks ago because the last bus now is at 8 pm & I forgot & didn't make the last bus.

That was THREE weeks ago, not something recent.

3. I disagree with you that CV is dangerous. Yes it's dangerous for people who were already very sick & most of those people are the elderly & even some younger people b/c let's face it, most people these days (including me) aren't healthy. Oh & I almost forgot, anyone who took the flu vaccine in the last 3 years is at risk, so yes, a good portion of the population will be at risk b/c they know nothing about health & they trust their doctors.

Saying that, I don't believe I will ever get CV. That's how sure I am that this is fear porn AND even if I did get it, so what, I know I wouldn't die. If I'm wrong, so be it.

People die EVERY day everywhere in the world & we have NEVER shut down the entire world b/c of it.

As one channel pointed out... there are more traffic fatalities worldwide than anything. Do we shut the entire car industry down b/c of that? Of course not, the automotive industry has HUGE power. We have NONE!

4. I am NOT the type of person to intentionally harm anyone, but when there's no harm in the first place & I'm being locked down b/c of what I know is their plan, then YES, I will be upset & yes I am very angry about this.

I'm also angry with the fact that most people don't understand that it was released on purpose & what's worse, they won't even listen & they attack me & others when we tell them.

So no, I'm not galavanting all over the city. I'm home 95% of the time anyway, but when I need to go out to get food I need to, & if I can't go to get food or I'm scared I can't get food, that's going to be a problem for me, AND right now I can't get the food I need b/c the veggie market I go to once a week has been closed for almost a month now. Any other place I get the veggies from are subpar, more expensive, don't have the selection & tastes gross.

I'm a foodie. I can't eat horrific food. It affects my body & me emotionally. Oh, thanks for reminding me. You can watch this video here (https://youtu.be/1ESBl3GTbTo) & read this document here (https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006O6EHUA0?tab=publications). I admit I haven't read the document so if you find something that goes against what she said, please let me know. I don't have the patience or the stomach for it, so I'll have to trust this new channel I was pointed to. She claims she used to work for the gov't so she understands the BS language they are using to confuse the masses.

It's just like the evils to use certain words to confuse people.

I started to learn about this about 3 years ago where the Latin root of a lot of the words they use are actually meant something else entirely & they aren't what we think.

It's ALL about control & looking down upon us.

So the one thing I didn't know that they were planning, is that they will eventually be eradicating ALL forms of food, forcing us to eat lab food & insects.

I would rather DIE!!!

5. I can't pay by cash & this was a whole stressor for me figuring out how to pay for the bus. The first time that happened I wasn't prepared & I was stranded.

Bus drivers that have often allowed me to not pay (I never ask) suddenly have become assholes & say I will have to get off the bus if I can't pay even though I had the cash in my hand. As IF now it's more important to take money from us when no one is working & everyone is very stressed.

The overall energy of the bus drivers has dropped to the point where they are being nasty. I have a feeling these aren't the regular bus drivers, but that doesn't matter. I'm not used to that kind of treatment & yes I know everyone is stressed, but that's BECAUSE of the fear porn & the lies about how dangerous CV is.

Even earlier today people getting on the bus were nasty to me b/c of the mask situation & no, I don't know how to make my own mask or have any materials or sewing machine to make such a thing. It's not something I am good at so I was forced to buy the mask & when I put it on, I felt very closterphobic. My heart started racing right away & I couldn't breath.

And I know they aren't stopping us from paying cash b/c the cash will give anyone the virus, but b/c they are moving forward with their cashless society plan so they can control the entire world & if you step out of line, bamm, there goes your money. But of course no one knows this so that's MORE fear porn.

Whether you believe this is going to happen or not, I've already heard several high profile people talking about this & they are trying to slide thru a bill or something. I have no idea what's happening in my country here or in other countries & the one world digital currency.

And what happens in the States right now is not affecting me b/c I'm overseas. I don't just care about Americans, I care about the entire world, & I hope you would too.

6. 5G is being installed worldwide while we are on lockdown & there's already evidence it's being snuck into the school system nationwide. If we weren't prisoners in our own homes, they wouldn't be able to do that b/c people would be livid & trying to stop it. I believe this is just one of the many reasons they created this situation. That & the yellow vest protests & also other protests that have been popping up worldwide in 2018/9.

So no, I do disagree with you that being forced to be prisoners in our homes is something I should accept.

Just like any other illness, if you feel that sick & you aren't holistic, you go to the fake doctor & get your toxic drugs & hope that you get better.

If you are holistic like me, you have most of what you need at home & you know how to heal yourself. You don't get afraid of most of these things. I don't know anyone who fears getting the flu & the flu kills tons of people every year.

I shouldn't have to be responsible for the mass majority of the human population b/c they still believe in the criminal allopathic industry & they worship their mindless doctors. This will sound mean spirited, but I have no sympathy for them unless they were just starting to learn about how to heal themselves & then I am at their service to help them.

With the exception of last year when I got a strep that wouldn't go away & I was forced to take penicillin, I haven't taken one drug since '97. I believe had I not been where I am now, I wouldn't have had to take the penicillin. Some expats can get really sick where I am.

And had the doctor given me the IV drip a 2nd time like I asked her (I learned that when you are sick, the best thing is to get a saline IV), or I had the money to go for an Vit C IV I would never have had to take the penicillin in the first place.

The system is beyond corrupt & as a holistic person, I hold a lot of anger about the fact that ever since '97 when I became holistic f/t, I can't heal myself without spending huge amounts of money out of my pocket. I can't see practitioners b/c they cost a fortune & so I've been sick for years with no help.

That's what the system does, it keeps us sick, weak, & stupid.

And their fear porn has also caused me to not be able to order things I need & have them shipped to me. I have stuff waiting to be shipped & I'm very concerned by the time I get everything I need I won't even be able to ship it.

7. I wasn't concerned with what was going on at all UNTIL I found out they were shutting down the stock exchange & then I watched a vid that predicted they would shut it down permanently.

That coupled with everyone being told they can't work, I DID foresee the future even though you don't think I can & saw the writing on the wall. They are bringing down the world economy.

This isn't just some random shutdown, this is a WORLDWIDE shutdown.

Never in the history of humankind have we been in this situation b/c it's even worse than the Great depression which was also a false flag, but I can't find the video that I watched on that. Granted we aren't standing in bread lines (well many people are actually), but give it another few weeks & that's where we will all be although it sounds like you are set, but most of us aren't.

I wanted to start a garden b/c people were warning us about this, but I was first waiting to get back to the US & of course that never happened.

8. Gates is spewing his evil propaganda ALL OVER TOWN along with the gov't spewing their propaganda about how everyone is going to die from this flu when it's not actually a flu.

I'm about to watch another doctor who I assume is going to confirm that this is mainly a hoax & you can watch this doctor here (https://youtu.be/N-v88QssVec).

Gate's agenda is to have everyone tested, vaccinated & chipped ASAP & he's been talking about it for around 3 wks. now I think. I never said it was happening right this second, but how do you know it's not happening in other countries?

Gates would NOT be going all over the place selling this idea UNLESS he knew it was going to happen.

If it suddenly didn't happen, he would then look like a fool which I'm sure he wouldn't want.

I still have to confirm this, but I just found out that Gates is directly related both to the Rockefellers (sorry I didn't make notes on that video so it's either them or the Rothschild) & the Royal family. If we didn't wonder whether he was evil before & I couldn't stand the guy all the way back in the early 90's, this is proof positive that they are all involved in this.

Some of the info is here (https://ourfreesociety.com/bill-gates-and-the-coronavirus/) if you haven't already read it.

9. First of all I've heard over 3 weeks ago that the test gives out 80% false positives, but that doesn't matter BECAUSE they are trying to inflate the numbers BIG TIME, so they will lie & say that someone died from CV when they didn't (there's already evidence of this) or that someone has CV when in actuality from what I've learned (this is still confusing to me) we all already have it in our bodies. It's the covid 19 we may not have.

But people don't understand the difference, & I don't yet either & am I going to argue with some moron in a white coat?

Every time I do they never listen, want to throw me out of their kingdom of an office b/c they think they are superior to every layperson that walks the earth. While I'm not a biology expert, I've been studying holistic health for years & I know tons more than your average white coat & even the specialists.

It disgusts me to go into their office whenever I have to.

And here I've already started getting SMSs from my HMO talking about me having to fill out a questionnaire & take the test.

Since I don't trust ANYONE at this point since I know this was all pre-planned & it's a WORLDWIDE TAKEDOWN, I will refuse the test. I'm assuming that's when they will probably stop my welfare & I will be in hot water which I'm already in b/c I've stopped making any money b/c of this so I can't even pay my rent now.

Plus I can't very well tell them I won't take the test b/c I think it's tainted. They will just argue with me.

10. Shoving needles in me - yes they WILL do that. It may not be today or tomorrow, but in the next month or so they will (or sooner). And if I thought I had time, let's say 2-6 months, I wouldn't be as worked up as I am. But b/c I will NOT allow them to shove anything into my arm, the choice is either comply or die.

I have no problem with death, what I DO have a problem with is someone forcing me to die before I'm ready.

Whether they shoot me or I take my life it doesn't matter, I am now in a mindset of having to prepare for that.

11. Unlike you, I do NOT agree that we should just be waiting until they roll out the rest of their plan. That's what he Jews did in the first holocaust & we all know how that turned out.

12. You may feel comfortable in your city right now (I don't know where you live), but today I heard that a Costco was boarded up. Since WHEN is a Costco EVER boarded up???

And then I also heard that mandatory testing was going to start. I don't remember what states that was in.

It already started in Denmark last month, & they will also be forcing people to have vaccines.

Unlike you, I can't remain calm in this situation & I'll repeat again, I should NOT be held prisoner in my own home if I'm not sick. And obviously closing down every biz expect grocery stores isn't b/c people are sick. I just don't get why you can't see that.

13. And whether it's true or not or just fear porn (it may be next week or the week after), for the 2nd time I heard they are going to shut down the Internet.

14. Alcohol sales are at an all-time high. Drugs probably too. People are NOT used to living with their partner & kids 24/7. Fights are already breaking out, I can guarantee you of that.

Abuses are probably at an all time high.

This isn't some blackout where everyone accepts the situation & gets cozy in their beds & makes love & then has a kid in 9 months. That would be fun, I'd embrace that. This is a TOTAL TAKEDOWN IMO.

And if the Internet gets shut off. OMG.

There's only 2 reasons why they would want to shut the net down

a) to stop people from questioning & spreading the truth about what's really going on before they are ready to take us to the next step of tyranny
b) to force people to lose their minds rush out into the streets so they can shoot them dead. That's a good way to find out how has a gun they are prepared to use.

15. Ok, so maybe the test doesn't collect the DNA, maybe it does something else, but not everyone who lives in the US was born there & again, I'm talking about the entire world, not just one country called America. I just don't trust the test or anyone. If this was me going to the doctor to get a test in a normal situation, I wouldn't have thought twice about it. This is NOT a normal situation by a long shot.

16. Where I am, once a week I can hear planes flying overhead, which either means they are on full force spraying which they did around 3 weeks ago WORLDWIDE, or they are coming very close to invading Iran.

The fact that they were spraying full force 3 weeks ago tells me they are trying their damdest to stop spring from coming.

They already put out a bulletin (I think it was the WHO which of course is owned by the evils) stating that there's already a food shortage, & they stated this 2 weeks ago. MORE FEAR PORN.

When people are sick they need FRESH air & sun. Sun has tons of healing properties which is why the evils have been trying to kill the sun since around the early 90's & what I believe is to to stop produce from growing so it not only raises the price of prodduce, but also puts fear into people's minds.

Just the fact that they won't allow people who are either physically sick or emotionally depressed from going outside, is total control to break down people's spirits.

They want to make sure that EVERYONE knows they are the masters & we are the slaves.

This has NOTHING to do with CV.

17. I completely forgot about them forcing us to stay apart from human beings. No celebrations, no being around family, being afraid to go near anyone in a line, getting people used to not being friendly, & preparing people to no longer have ANY human to human contact so they will be forced to use AI for friendship, sexual gratification, even LTRs.

This is another reason they created social media, so people would become addicted to the site & favor that instead of a real human being.

They have been pushing us in this direction for years b/c their plan is to make everyone transhuman.

Keeping people apart from one another is classic psychological warfare, not to mention people are ratting people out now if they see them walking their dogs, going outside, more than 2 people, etc.

They even have a police app now where you can contact the police to rat on your fellow humans.

Oh, & let's not forget that Google just came out with a program to spy on you from space so that if you are closer than 6 feet from someone, I assume they will dispatch the GESTAPO to come get YOU!!!

And the insane FINES & threatened JAIL TIME if you break any of their tyrannical rules.

Anyway, if you can't see that this is the next holocaust & this is what ALL slave owners have done for millenia to keep their slaves inlne, then there's nothing more I can say to convince you. Maybe you haven't studied the holocaust & while I'm not an expert, I've read some books on it over the years & know the steps that were taken prior to things getting as bad as they eventually did.

I hope I covered everything you wrote, I can't type anymore.

Take care

[greybeard]

A Bigger Crisis Is On The Horizon, And It Will Last For Decades


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlQX4fmRrpI

As the news talks about enforcing mandatory lockdowns, and handing out money to citizens…

There has been a problem that has been rapidly expanding in the background of all of this news.

…And It is a problem that the world has never really seen before.

In fact… it might create a crisis that won’t just be felt in the next week, the next month, or even the next year...

but it might be felt for several decades to come…

During World War 2, Britain was in the thick of war against the axis powers. However, Britain ran into a roadblock…they were quickly running out of money.

So, they began looking to borrow money from both their own future taxpayers, as well as the United States & Canada. In 1941 Britain began accepting loans and taking on debt to fund the war… and by 1945 Britain had taken on nearly $10 Billion dollars worth of debt from its creditors.

At this point in time, Britains debt to GDP ratio was a whopping 200% meaning that the country had twice as much debt, as its entire market value of all its goods and services it produces over an entire year.

And just some perspective for you, is that the World Bank states that once a country reaches above 77% debt to GDP ratio, its economy will begin to slow down from such a large portion of its revenue going towards paying down its debt.

Anyways, after the war ended, Britain had amassed a debt that was so large, that they couldn’t pay it back in 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, or even 20 years. On December 29, 2006, Britain made its last repayment on its World War 2 debt to The United States and Canada.

This means that British taxpayers from 1945, up until 2006 had a small portion of their tax bill every year, go towards the Debt that the country accumulated in the 1940’s.

And for about a decade after the war, Britains economy was drastically hindered, in part due to their outstanding debt that they incurred. However, their economy eventually recovered thanks to an influx of taxpayers, called the baby boomers, as well as some economic reforms and infrastructure investments.

But a lot of the times when a country accrues as much debt as britain did, they are not so lucky.

In 2001 Argentina’s debt to GDP ratio reached a high of 166%, which caused the country to default on over $100 Billion dollars worth of debt. This default made capital move out of the country, and soon the nation saw millions of people enter poverty while unemployment reached a high of 19%. And to this day, Argentina hasn’t fully recovered from its debt crisis that it went through nearly 20 years ago.

And similar stories can be said for Greece in 2012, Zimbabwe in 2006, Venezuala in 2017, and Russia in 1998.

The point I am trying to make here is that even though debt can be a good thing to take on… in order to solve today’s serious problems…it will almost always have serious long-term consequences that could last for years or even decades.

So now, lets bring this back to the United States. So whether you know it or not, America essentially runs on debt. Historically, America’s economy has been so big, and has grown so fast, that taking out tens of billions of debt here or there hasn’t really been much of a big deal because it was such a small percentage of the countries overall Economy. For example In 2006, The United States had a relatively healthy Debt to GDP ratio of about 60%. But then…the financial crisis hit. During the financial crisis, the United states began scrambling for ways to pump money back into the economy… so it began taking out hundreds of billions of dollars worth of debt.


And some people might think that The United States, along with every other country that took out debt to get through the financial crisis, has paid off some of their debt since 2008. But actually, the opposite of that is true. You see, since the financial crisis, many developed countries throughout the world have been accruing more and more debt every year, while economic growth has slowed. This means that many countries may actually find it more difficult to pay off their debt now, than they did during the financial crisis.

Too Long, End of Transcript.

[Bill Ryan]

From Peak Prosperity, today:

What Will The Post-Coronavirus World Look Like? (Chris Martenson, John Rubino, Charles Hugh Smith & Taggart)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20TvmEclBg

[TravelerJim]

Interesting links here on what lies next....

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/world-has-changed-more-we-know

A bit more economic but of course related to psycho and social issues.....

[helium]

43428


Resilience


I stood just inside of the bay door of a typical old style gas station/garage. In the garage was one car set on jackstands with a portly old gentleman in greasy coveralls laying on the floor beneath, turning a wrench. I engaged in small talk with the mechanic under the car as I gazed at the small-town street outside the garage door. The street was lined with trees in full bloom, stores and shops across from where I stood in the garage had several shoppers coming and going, as would be usual on a fine early summer afternoon. From my viewpoint the outdoor surroundings were framed by the stamped steel construction of the gas station’s garage door. A few feet away to my left was the entrance to the shop’s office. The floor in the workbay was concrete, while in the corner of the shop near where I stood the floor was actually packed dirt. Something caught my eye on that dirt floor.

In the corner where the metal shop walls met, among the clutter of hastily discarded car parts, there was a three foot piece of steel girder half buried in the dirt. It was a rusty section of an I-beam of sufficient dimensions to have once been part of the structure of a tall skyscraper. One end was cut straight and smooth, the other was cut with an acetylene torch in a ragged, haphazard fashion. The rusted, pockmarked steel of that piece of I-beam was an inch thick at least. The beam lay with the center of the ‘I’ horizontal to the ground. By all appearances that chunk of I-beam had lain there for as long as the shop had existed.

There was a hole cut in the middle of the I-beam, perhaps three inches in diameter. The hole was not entirely round. The edges of the hole were as uneven as the rough-cut ragged end of the I-beam. Through the hole in that filthy, crusted chunk of steel grew several slender flower petals forming a spiral perhaps eight inches tall. The petals were a captivating deep ultramarine blue with fine veins of translucent violet running their length. The contrast between the unforgiving mass of steel surrounding the supreme delicacy of those lovely blue flower petals triggered an immediate sense of incongruity. Instantly I awoke to the fact that I was being presented with a meaningful vision.

Moments later the tranquility of the vision was disturbed by something occurring outdoors. The skies were darkening and gusts of wind were beginning to blow. Before I knew what was happening a great storm came upon the scene. Wind came blowing through the garage doorway with gale force.

Fierce winds bent the fragile flower petals from one side to another. As the storm increased in it's ferocity the blue flower petals were being shredded against the steel. Soon there was nothing remaining of the once perfect blue petals after they’d been brutally smashed against the harsh unyielding steel I-beam. At this point I was fully awake, aware, and operating in my customary Observer mode. I knew that their was something to learn from what I was experiencing. My thoughts were as clear as they are now, as I write, if not even more clear in the dream. I quickly took in the entire scene along with all of the events in detail, looking for clues as to the meaning of the vision and the destruction of the beautiful violet-veined blue flower. The garage, the mechanic, the street outside, all of this was taken into consideration. The I-beam and the battered remains of the flower were the only clues that made sense. Yet I was certain there had to be more to this vision. With that thought my attention was brought to the steel I-beam itself. The hole the flower had grown through was now larger than it was before. In a sudden moment of realization it was clear; as the flower petals had been shredded against the steel by the wind, they’d cut through the thick steel even as the delicate petals were being torn to bits. This, in itself, was the core of the vision as it was presented to me.

To put this dream and the vision into perspective, months prior to that dream I’d become involved in a situation that battered me in real life much the same as the wind storm had battered those flower petals in the dream. I’d been lied to and deceived in such a fashion that I responded with a level of anger that I’d never dealt with in the past. The anger and rage I was experiencing had been ongoing for months. I’d become afraid that the anger was in fact ruining the best parts of who I am in this world. In those final moments of the vision I came to realize that even solid steel could not destroy the best of me. The most valuable, most beautiful parts of ourselves may appear to be the most frail, yet when the storm subsides, as in the vision, what seems to have been destroyed will in fact grow again with greater freedom to bloom than before.

No sooner did I come to this realization in the dream but the mechanic crawled out from under the car in the garage, went outside, and proceeded to drive away. I attempted to follow, thinking “Wait a minute, you can’t leave now, there may be more to the dream. . . .” But this part of the dream was fading, having served it’s purpose. Now, just as in other similar dream experiences of mine - those that involve distinct visions - there will be two sequential parts to the overall experience. Another example of this is found in the post I titled “The Bridge” http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110336-Covid19-the-coming-psycho-social-transition&p=1342427&viewfull=1#post1342427

The secondary part to this current experience found me standing beside a two lane highway. On one side of the highway was a tall mountain range rising near-vertical from the shoulder of the road. The highway followed the base of the mountain range for miles. There was an average amount of traffic on the road – not too busy, but enough for me to assume that this was a major thoroughfare. On the opposite side of the road was ocean shoreline. Much of the shore was rugged and rocky. In a few locations there were small beaches that attracted many of the travelers from the highway who needed a rest from their drive. I stood in an area near one of the sandy beaches, but there was more rock than sand. Small pools had formed far away from the breaking ocean waves.

Once again there is a contrast of opposites – rugged mountain lands with opposing open ocean. I wasn’t yet certain why I was here or what meaning there might be to discover in the imagery. Nonetheless, I was standing near a small, quiet tidal pool. There were tiny ripples on the surface of the pool that attracted my attention. The ripples were created by a number of very odd fish. I watched these fish swim about at the edge of the tide pool, then attempt to leave the water for dry land. I laughed at these silly antics with much amusement because the source of this imagery was obvious. Aldous Huxley and his biologist brother Julian considered humans to be amphibians. Aldous writes:

“. . . we find ourselves confronted by one of those paradoxes which are of the very essence of our strange existence as amphibians inhabiting, without being completely at home in, half a dozen almost incommensurable worlds -- the world of concepts and the world of data, the objective world and the subjective, the small, bright world of personal consciousness and the vast, mysterious world of the unconscious.” Aldous Huxley, Collected Essays, p.198. (http://miltonthed.weebly.com/uploads/1/4/1/6/14162844/aldous_huxley_collected_essays.pdf)My amusement sprang from knowing in the dream that the imagery was a direct reference to Aldous and Julian and their famous amphibian metaphor. But I had to step back and view the entire scene from the point of view of the Observer. While I watched those weird Huxley-ish fish leap and flop around, trying to get out of the water and onto land, to traverse two ‘incommensurable worlds’ in Huxley’s terms, I was thinking that there had to be something more to be learned from the overall dream imagery. There was the land that the fish struggled to inhabit, with the tall mountains being a dramatic symbol of land vs. water, the highway, the cars, the parking lots along the roadway near the beaches, the beachcomers poking about on the beaches – this had to have overall meaning somehow. Then the thought came to me that these rather small, inconsequential fish attempting to leap out of their tide pool in an effort to evolve into something far beyond their nature as simple fish – they were an example of how even in the everyday world, normal as it appears, evidence for evolution in consciousness is all around us, and within us, if we care to look. At that exact moment I opened my eyes. Dream over.

The car in the shop represented my life as it unfolds, as it's being worked on. The plant and the flower
petals represented the part of me that's grown into graceful maturity as a caring, helpful being. The
steel represents the constraints upon me as I struggle in this imperfect world where seemingly
impenetrable barriers impede my progress. The storm was my anger releasing unfettered rage. The
emergent, evolving fish reflect our growth as spiritual beings who strive to live equally in two
realms that sometimes appear to be incompatible, but in a larger sense are not.Sleeping and waking are a continuum. They’re not separate, disparate processes. We learn and grow from inside out – until the outer overlaps with the inner and our actual ongoing experience reflects that overlap. If we trust the process, if we trust the parts of ourselves that are pure, then our flower blooms. And that bloom is more powerful than any steel impediment. It's more powerful than anything that anyone can do to us out of hatred, malice, or ignorance. There is no longer a subjugation to anger.

We may be delicate beings - in some sense delicately beautiful in an almost painful fashion when we consider the temporary nature of certain kinds of beauty - but we have strengths that go far beyond what we know, and they can become a part of our daily lives.


* * * * * * * * * * *

I share this story and the one below for two reasons. First of all, I know that there are many people in the world today who face terrible losses and bitter disappointments associated with the ongoing world-wide pandemic. Some express anger in the face of their circumstances. Others turn to depression. I’m well aware of the fact that all that I can share are letters and words on a screen. And I’m the guy who is always there to assist friends and other people I meet. On many occasions I become deeply involved with the lives of others in purposeful healing relationships. But I know my limits. Simple typed words are nothing when you are facing a crushing loss and pending fear. What I’m actually sharing are stories, though. Think of them as a fairy tales if need be. If anyone finds value in the stories then they will already most likely be moving along a path of healing.

So one more short story before I get to my second point.


I consider my life events, the unique abilities that I have, and the many individuals who’ve shared their lives with me in unconditional trust, to all be a gift. However gifts sometimes involve compromise. I’ve gone through periods of extreme challenge, particularly in my twenties, when almost unbearable transformations were taking place for me. During certain periods I dealt with severe clinical depression. In retrospect, I look at those periods of depression as the training I would require so that I could work with others to manage medically un-treatable depression and anxiety. Or I should say the kind of depression that’s been exacerbated, made far worse by medical/psychiatric intervention. I was in the perfect place and at just the right time to undergo this training.

In one instance I’d been sealed off from all others for weeks. I wouldn’t even allow the animals into the house. I lived in a small cabin on the edge of Forest Service land in isolated mountains. Depression in those days was like a deafening silence. Black, yes, but also devoid of any possible positive response to anything whatsoever. It was an intractable, deep denial of everything and anyone under all and any circumstances. There could be no connection. It was a dark denial of life. Of course this denial is in conflict with life itself. But there is no battle because it’s been lost. That is not where anyone wants to be. I lived in fear that I’d never be able to break that deafening silence – it was impossible.

These were long ago days. Music has always been a large part of my life. In those days Tower Records was in their hey-day in Seattle’s University District. They were open 24/7. In the midst of this particularly long streak of depression, in desperation, I decided to drive my rusty old truck ninety miles down the mountain to browse through the classical section upstairs at Tower. I came back late at night with some new vinyl to listen to. One album featured one of my favorite conductors and symphony orchestras. On one side were extracts from Tchaikovsky’s “Romeo and Juliet” suite, and the other side was the same but from “Sleeping Beauty”. I’ve always studied composers by immersing myself in their work, listening over and over. I always keep my eye out for any works I haven’t heard that might give me greater insight into a particular composer. I’d built a fire in the living room stove when arriving home that night, then I listened to one side of the record or the other for a few minutes. I relaxed enough to dim the oil lamp to a more comfortable level, then I was finally able to risk allowing the dog and the cat inside with me. I’ve always protected the animals and other people from my worst darkness. But I was making progress that night.

I spent a lot of time with the animals in those days. I used to sit on the floor with them, get them totally relaxed, and play music - mostly symphonic. I’d practice forming emotional imagery from whatever music I was hearing, and beaming that imagery via telepathy to the animals. My goal was to provide them with the best encapsulation of what it’s like to be and feel human that I could possibly create. So that night I was listening to Tchaikovsky’s “Sleeping Beauty” suite while holding my German Shepard’s rather large head between my hands, focusing the emotion that the music conveyed to me into telepathic energy gently beamed from my hands to the dog laying beside me. By the way, the animals always loved this treatment. But that night the music brought something out in me that I didn’t expect. Very simply, I discovered the sleeping beauty within myself. We awoke to one another. This was a powerful experience that I can never speak of or write about without utterly failing for words and having clouds come to my eyes. The depression of the past weeks had been instantly broken.

. . . if we trust the parts of ourselves that are pure, then our flower blooms. And that bloom is more powerful than any steel impediment.Secondly, and finally, I share these stories here on this thread as examples of how stretching conscious awareness past the customary bounds can actually mean the difference between life or death. The energies of mis-directed anger thrown into destructive action can lead to the dissolution or death of essential parts of oneself if those energies aren’t re-directed into useful patterns instead. The same for depression, and maybe even much more so. Severe depression deprives the self of access to the depths of our being, from where all growth and healing is derived.

Changes are coming soon on the national and international stage. We all know that. Some changes could come in the form of a fresh bloom of extraordinary awareness growing here and there across the globe. As much as the media hypes financial pains and unemployment, I suspect that potentially the most profound changes to come will derive from growing awareness in sufficiently large populations that will drive the direction of our future away from where we are now. It’s time to speak about this. Experiencers will need help and understanding. They will teach. Research will open up. This coming from an old man who has witnessed many changes over time in academic, medical, social, and psychiatric practices. He could separate the wheat from the chaff long, long ago. These days have been coming and now they do seem to be here. Many who are experiencing anxiety today are not aware that it’s partly or fully due to changes in the way they customarily think and feel, and those same changes are replicated innumerably in others. I’ve always felt that teachers need to be ready, my entire adult life. Now more than ever.

In terms of ‘stretching conscious awareness’ I’m planning a thread dealing with the continuity of consciousness. Actually, the idea of continuity of consciousness is most often associated with reincarnation. But in the old days of lucid dream research (pre-internet) there was much talk of the continuity of consciousness in terms of daily variations within consciousness that appear as distinct altered-states. Sleep is the most natural laboratory for studying the boundaries of one’s awareness, as well as for defining the nature of the transitions between one state of consciousness and another.


Thanks to Elisabeth25 @pixabay.com for providing the purple striped crocus image

[norman]

A Conversation With Sacha Stone

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[Michi]

What upsets me the most is the concerted media and news propaganda, all singing the song of #westayathome and social distancing.
Additionally, intermediate spots showing promi families and others how they care for each other by promoting strict adherence to regional directives.
Even in my job-whatsapp group, most technicians are touting the distancing meme.
This is political forging of herd agreements - a great field test to predict how to enslave en masse.

-- end of rant --

:focus:

[norman]

Another interview with Sacha Stone - by John and Irina Mapping

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[Bill Ryan]

Starting just after 24:40 in this new video (disregard what comes earlier for this context), Richard Dolan announces an online event on 6 June.

That's where he'll be making a presentation about how Covid-19 is moving humanity into a fourth stage of existence — the first three being


Hunter-gathering
Agriculture
Industry and science
......?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myzC829PuwI

[AutumnW]

43428


Resilience


I stood just inside of the bay door of a typical old style gas station/garage. In the garage was one car set on jackstands with a portly old gentleman in greasy coveralls laying on the floor beneath, turning a wrench. I engaged in small talk with the mechanic under the car as I gazed at the small-town street outside the garage door. The street was lined with trees in full bloom, stores and shops across from where I stood in the garage had several shoppers coming and going, as would be usual on a fine early summer afternoon. From my viewpoint the outdoor surroundings were framed by the stamped steel construction of the gas station’s garage door. A few feet away to my left was the entrance to the shop’s office. The floor in the workbay was concrete, while in the corner of the shop near where I stood the floor was actually packed dirt. Something caught my eye on that dirt floor.

In the corner where the metal shop walls met, among the clutter of hastily discarded car parts, there was a three foot piece of steel girder half buried in the dirt. It was a rusty section of an I-beam of sufficient dimensions to have once been part of the structure of a tall skyscraper. One end was cut straight and smooth, the other was cut with an acetylene torch in a ragged, haphazard fashion. The rusted, pockmarked steel of that piece of I-beam was an inch thick at least. The beam lay with the center of the ‘I’ horizontal to the ground. By all appearances that chunk of I-beam had lain there for as long as the shop had existed.

There was a hole cut in the middle of the I-beam, perhaps three inches in diameter. The hole was not entirely round. The edges of the hole were as uneven as the rough-cut ragged end of the I-beam. Through the hole in that filthy, crusted chunk of steel grew several slender flower petals forming a spiral perhaps eight inches tall. The petals were a captivating deep ultramarine blue with fine veins of translucent violet running their length. The contrast between the unforgiving mass of steel surrounding the supreme delicacy of those lovely blue flower petals triggered an immediate sense of incongruity. Instantly I awoke to the fact that I was being presented with a meaningful vision.

Moments later the tranquility of the vision was disturbed by something occurring outdoors. The skies were darkening and gusts of wind were beginning to blow. Before I knew what was happening a great storm came upon the scene. Wind came blowing through the garage doorway with gale force.

Fierce winds bent the fragile flower petals from one side to another. As the storm increased in it's ferocity the blue flower petals were being shredded against the steel. Soon there was nothing remaining of the once perfect blue petals after they’d been brutally smashed against the harsh unyielding steel I-beam. At this point I was fully awake, aware, and operating in my customary Observer mode. I knew that their was something to learn from what I was experiencing. My thoughts were as clear as they are now, as I write, if not even more clear in the dream. I quickly took in the entire scene along with all of the events in detail, looking for clues as to the meaning of the vision and the destruction of the beautiful violet-veined blue flower. The garage, the mechanic, the street outside, all of this was taken into consideration. The I-beam and the battered remains of the flower were the only clues that made sense. Yet I was certain there had to be more to this vision. With that thought my attention was brought to the steel I-beam itself. The hole the flower had grown through was now larger than it was before. In a sudden moment of realization it was clear; as the flower petals had been shredded against the steel by the wind, they’d cut through the thick steel even as the delicate petals were being torn to bits. This, in itself, was the core of the vision as it was presented to me.

To put this dream and the vision into perspective, months prior to that dream I’d become involved in a situation that battered me in real life much the same as the wind storm had battered those flower petals in the dream. I’d been lied to and deceived in such a fashion that I responded with a level of anger that I’d never dealt with in the past. The anger and rage I was experiencing had been ongoing for months. I’d become afraid that the anger was in fact ruining the best parts of who I am in this world. In those final moments of the vision I came to realize that even solid steel could not destroy the best of me. The most valuable, most beautiful parts of ourselves may appear to be the most frail, yet when the storm subsides, as in the vision, what seems to have been destroyed will in fact grow again with greater freedom to bloom than before.

No sooner did I come to this realization in the dream but the mechanic crawled out from under the car in the garage, went outside, and proceeded to drive away. I attempted to follow, thinking “Wait a minute, you can’t leave now, there may be more to the dream. . . .” But this part of the dream was fading, having served it’s purpose. Now, just as in other similar dream experiences of mine - those that involve distinct visions - there will be two sequential parts to the overall experience. Another example of this is found in the post I titled “The Bridge” http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110336-Covid19-the-coming-psycho-social-transition&p=1342427&viewfull=1#post1342427

The secondary part to this current experience found me standing beside a two lane highway. On one side of the highway was a tall mountain range rising near-vertical from the shoulder of the road. The highway followed the base of the mountain range for miles. There was an average amount of traffic on the road – not too busy, but enough for me to assume that this was a major thoroughfare. On the opposite side of the road was ocean shoreline. Much of the shore was rugged and rocky. In a few locations there were small beaches that attracted many of the travelers from the highway who needed a rest from their drive. I stood in an area near one of the sandy beaches, but there was more rock than sand. Small pools had formed far away from the breaking ocean waves.

Once again there is a contrast of opposites – rugged mountain lands with opposing open ocean. I wasn’t yet certain why I was here or what meaning there might be to discover in the imagery. Nonetheless, I was standing near a small, quiet tidal pool. There were tiny ripples on the surface of the pool that attracted my attention. The ripples were created by a number of very odd fish. I watched these fish swim about at the edge of the tide pool, then attempt to leave the water for dry land. I laughed at these silly antics with much amusement because the source of this imagery was obvious. Aldous Huxley and his biologist brother Julian considered humans to be amphibians. Aldous writes:

“. . . we find ourselves confronted by one of those paradoxes which are of the very essence of our strange existence as amphibians inhabiting, without being completely at home in, half a dozen almost incommensurable worlds -- the world of concepts and the world of data, the objective world and the subjective, the small, bright world of personal consciousness and the vast, mysterious world of the unconscious.” Aldous Huxley, Collected Essays, p.198. (http://miltonthed.weebly.com/uploads/1/4/1/6/14162844/aldous_huxley_collected_essays.pdf)My amusement sprang from knowing in the dream that the imagery was a direct reference to Aldous and Julian and their famous amphibian metaphor. But I had to step back and view the entire scene from the point of view of the Observer. While I watched those weird Huxley-ish fish leap and flop around, trying to get out of the water and onto land, to traverse two ‘incommensurable worlds’ in Huxley’s terms, I was thinking that there had to be something more to be learned from the overall dream imagery. There was the land that the fish struggled to inhabit, with the tall mountains being a dramatic symbol of land vs. water, the highway, the cars, the parking lots along the roadway near the beaches, the beachcomers poking about on the beaches – this had to have overall meaning somehow. Then the thought came to me that these rather small, inconsequential fish attempting to leap out of their tide pool in an effort to evolve into something far beyond their nature as simple fish – they were an example of how even in the everyday world, normal as it appears, evidence for evolution in consciousness is all around us, and within us, if we care to look. At that exact moment I opened my eyes. Dream over.

The car in the shop represented my life as it unfolds, as it's being worked on. The plant and the flower
petals represented the part of me that's grown into graceful maturity as a caring, helpful being. The
steel represents the constraints upon me as I struggle in this imperfect world where seemingly
impenetrable barriers impede my progress. The storm was my anger releasing unfettered rage. The
emergent, evolving fish reflect our growth as spiritual beings who strive to live equally in two
realms that sometimes appear to be incompatible, but in a larger sense are not.Sleeping and waking are a continuum. They’re not separate, disparate processes. We learn and grow from inside out – until the outer overlaps with the inner and our actual ongoing experience reflects that overlap. If we trust the process, if we trust the parts of ourselves that are pure, then our flower blooms. And that bloom is more powerful than any steel impediment. It's more powerful than anything that anyone can do to us out of hatred, malice, or ignorance. There is no longer a subjugation to anger.

We may be delicate beings - in some sense delicately beautiful in an almost painful fashion when we consider the temporary nature of certain kinds of beauty - but we have strengths that go far beyond what we know, and they can become a part of our daily lives.


* * * * * * * * * * *

I share this story and the one below for two reasons. First of all, I know that there are many people in the world today who face terrible losses and bitter disappointments associated with the ongoing world-wide pandemic. Some express anger in the face of their circumstances. Others turn to depression. I’m well aware of the fact that all that I can share are letters and words on a screen. And I’m the guy who is always there to assist friends and other people I meet. On many occasions I become deeply involved with the lives of others in purposeful healing relationships. But I know my limits. Simple typed words are nothing when you are facing a crushing loss and pending fear. What I’m actually sharing are stories, though. Think of them as a fairy tales if need be. If anyone finds value in the stories then they will already most likely be moving along a path of healing.

So one more short story before I get to my second point.


I consider my life events, the unique abilities that I have, and the many individuals who’ve shared their lives with me in unconditional trust, to all be a gift. However gifts sometimes involve compromise. I’ve gone through periods of extreme challenge, particularly in my twenties, when almost unbearable transformations were taking place for me. During certain periods I dealt with severe clinical depression. In retrospect, I look at those periods of depression as the training I would require so that I could work with others to manage medically un-treatable depression and anxiety. Or I should say the kind of depression that’s been exacerbated, made far worse by medical/psychiatric intervention. I was in the perfect place and at just the right time to undergo this training.

In one instance I’d been sealed off from all others for weeks. I wouldn’t even allow the animals into the house. I lived in a small cabin on the edge of Forest Service land in isolated mountains. Depression in those days was like a deafening silence. Black, yes, but also devoid of any possible positive response to anything whatsoever. It was an intractable, deep denial of everything and anyone under all and any circumstances. There could be no connection. It was a dark denial of life. Of course this denial is in conflict with life itself. But there is no battle because it’s been lost. That is not where anyone wants to be. I lived in fear that I’d never be able to break that deafening silence – it was impossible.

These were long ago days. Music has always been a large part of my life. In those days Tower Records was in their hey-day in Seattle’s University District. They were open 24/7. In the midst of this particularly long streak of depression, in desperation, I decided to drive my rusty old truck ninety miles down the mountain to browse through the classical section upstairs at Tower. I came back late at night with some new vinyl to listen to. One album featured one of my favorite conductors and symphony orchestras. On one side were extracts from Tchaikovsky’s “Romeo and Juliet” suite, and the other side was the same but from “Sleeping Beauty”. I’ve always studied composers by immersing myself in their work, listening over and over. I always keep my eye out for any works I haven’t heard that might give me greater insight into a particular composer. I’d built a fire in the living room stove when arriving home that night, then I listened to one side of the record or the other for a few minutes. I relaxed enough to dim the oil lamp to a more comfortable level, then I was finally able to risk allowing the dog and the cat inside with me. I’ve always protected the animals and other people from my worst darkness. But I was making progress that night.

I spent a lot of time with the animals in those days. I used to sit on the floor with them, get them totally relaxed, and play music - mostly symphonic. I’d practice forming emotional imagery from whatever music I was hearing, and beaming that imagery via telepathy to the animals. My goal was to provide them with the best encapsulation of what it’s like to be and feel human that I could possibly create. So that night I was listening to Tchaikovsky’s “Sleeping Beauty” suite while holding my German Shepard’s rather large head between my hands, focusing the emotion that the music conveyed to me into telepathic energy gently beamed from my hands to the dog laying beside me. By the way, the animals always loved this treatment. But that night the music brought something out in me that I didn’t expect. Very simply, I discovered the sleeping beauty within myself. We awoke to one another. This was a powerful experience that I can never speak of or write about without utterly failing for words and having clouds come to my eyes. The depression of the past weeks had been instantly broken.

. . . if we trust the parts of ourselves that are pure, then our flower blooms. And that bloom is more powerful than any steel impediment.Secondly, and finally, I share these stories here on this thread as examples of how stretching conscious awareness past the customary bounds can actually mean the difference between life or death. The energies of mis-directed anger thrown into destructive action can lead to the dissolution or death of essential parts of oneself if those energies aren’t re-directed into useful patterns instead. The same for depression, and maybe even much more so. Severe depression deprives the self of access to the depths of our being, from where all growth and healing is derived.

Changes are coming soon on the national and international stage. We all know that. Some changes could come in the form of a fresh bloom of extraordinary awareness growing here and there across the globe. As much as the media hypes financial pains and unemployment, I suspect that potentially the most profound changes to come will derive from growing awareness in sufficiently large populations that will drive the direction of our future away from where we are now. It’s time to speak about this. Experiencers will need help and understanding. They will teach. Research will open up. This coming from an old man who has witnessed many changes over time in academic, medical, social, and psychiatric practices. He could separate the wheat from the chaff long, long ago. These days have been coming and now they do seem to be here. Many who are experiencing anxiety today are not aware that it’s partly or fully due to changes in the way they customarily think and feel, and those same changes are replicated innumerably in others. I’ve always felt that teachers need to be ready, my entire adult life. Now more than ever.

In terms of ‘stretching conscious awareness’ I’m planning a thread dealing with the continuity of consciousness. Actually, the idea of continuity of consciousness is most often associated with reincarnation. But in the old days of lucid dream research (pre-internet) there was much talk of the continuity of consciousness in terms of daily variations within consciousness that appear as distinct altered-states. Sleep is the most natural laboratory for studying the boundaries of one’s awareness, as well as for defining the nature of the transitions between one state of consciousness and another.


Thanks to Elisabeth25 @pixabay.com for providing the purple striped crocus image

That might be one of the most beautiful things I have read on PA. Thank you so much for sharing your past, your thoughts and feelings!

[AutumnW]

I share a lot of the same thoughts and feelings that Helium has experienced. The collective unconscious is agitated and changing and we have to be careful to observe as if watching a movie, without becoming too immersed in sadness or anger. Some of the changes I foresee could be very simply implemented. For example, building codes to allow more intentional housing in areas dedicated to agriculture. So, for example, say an area is zoned for one home per 10 or 20 acres. Why can't that be changed to 10 or 20 homes dedicated to intensive farming?

Glass tower office buildings. Rewire some of them and use them for verticle farming. Replumb other glass towers, section them off and turn them into residential housing. Why not?

That will be the clarion call of the future, I figure, "why not?"

[Elainie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlmuNXEqQG4&feature=emb_logo

One particular friend that I have - and I cannot even say where he works at, because it would really expose him in a major way - but he spoke to me about - confirming the things that I'd been saying that - this month that we're in now and May and June is when we would begin to start seeing more and more changes in the global atmosphere. That includes storms, weather changes, cold, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. All these things would begin to start changing now. And that by September there would not be a person on the planet that would not know that we are in major trouble on this earth.

And I know that there are others that are speaking about this as well. But some of the details they kind of leave out. Especially when it comes to - you know suppose that there's like two waves of these asteroids coming in. And basically I can tell you that the reason why we don't have too many of them hitting us as of right now to this debris field that we're going through has a lot to do with the fact that Jupiter has been shielding us from a lot of those. But that is beginning to move, and it's allowing more of these smaller rocks to hit the earth. [...]

I've had three witnesses that have confirmed what I am telling you about these things that are going to happen. The second source that I have - like I said I have to be very careful about saying anything about this person here - but he also works as a contractor with the Pentagon directly with several different high-ranking officers inside the Pentagon. And we're talking about colonels and higher - colonels and generals as well. And they had been given the information that yes, we're really going to be getting hit by some major major debris coming in. And of course on his particular note, he spoke about them being like the size of basketballs. But at the same time he was told that in order to survive even those type of chunks of debris coming in, you would need to be minimum - I want to say he said 18 feet underground or 20 feet underground - it's very deep, deeper than what I would have thought. [...]

I've been told also that this is like extinction-level event that we're going to be going through. We're talking about seas rising, things of that nature. And when I say seas rising, we're not necessarily talking about like a southern tidal wave. Although that is believed that we will see tidal waves as well. I've been told as high as a thousand feet. [...]

One of my good friends over in Israel sends me a confirmation on intel that I'd been sharing with the people about the depopulation agenda of doing away with the undesirables. And I don't want to mention any details about this friend. Because although we differ in our views on this, I still appreciate the fact that he's honest enough to share this type of information with me. [...] But he spoke to me about how that he knew specifically the man that had drawn up for the military - and for the industrial military complex here - the plans for getting rid of what they called undesirables. And when I say this, I myself do not consider people undesirable because of their skin color because of their financial status, homeless, etc. But this is what the plan was drawn up about. And he told me that this is exactly - you know, he had seen this blueprint. This man was in Washington multiple times a year, had met with very high-ranking officials, and it wrote it almost as if it were a business plan on how to rid the United States of undesirables.

When it comes to the black community, one of the reasonings behind the black community is that they would side with the Communists. I mean go figure that one right. I just don't buy that, not even for a moment. But this is what what he told me. And he said that in the plan also was written that they would kill all the Christians. And the reason why they would kill the Christians is because the Christians would end up siding with the black community when they're being done away with as undesirables. Now this is a man that has literally worked on top secret installations in this country here. He has worked on cruise ships that were being converted into prison transport vessels.

I've known myself for many many years - I'm talking about decades - that Alaska would be where they would take Christians to concentration camps - in Alaska. As he said to me though - in recent communication that we had - that Alaska is full of masons, CIA, all types of individuals that - secret societies, everything you could possibly imagine - and that yes, he knew as well that they had set it up. They had built new railway systems as well. He knew of tankers. He had actually worked on tankers that were being built many years ago as prison transport vessels. [...]

And like I said though, this was only confirming what a Pentagon source had shared with me, that there would - and I was only given three targeted areas: New York, South Florida, and Texas. Texas because of the people that own guns. But I can also see because it's all about the undesirables. They consider the Hispanic community undesirable as well. [...]

But at the same time, I see on both sides on the sources that I have - at least two of my sources that know either first-hand or second-hand of the aliens or fallen demons that are working with government entities. [...] I have also heard as well these fallen angels - these demons that are being brought up - that we're gonna end up in a war with them. We're gonna end up in a confrontation with them directly. That's coming as well.

So, but even before that happens, we've got all these things that are taking place. We're dealing with this debris field coming in. And I know there's a lot of people don't believe in Planet X, but I still do believe that we're gonna deal with something similar to that as well. That was confirmed through a White House source I had. That that is true, that this really does exist. But that was expected to come much later. And that actually was also - the little memory chip that I had shared at the conference there in Ohio. That was on there as well. It was on there, talking about the debris field. And that later we would run into this so-called binary system that would come through. And it's believed that a lot of these things that are happening are what's causing all these weather changes that we're gonna be seeing.

And I've also been told about the storms that we would be having. Massive winds, massive massive winds. And tornadoes like you've never seen in your life. I hear Florida will be hammered by storms. It'll be so massive, beyond anything that's ever been on record. And that will begin this year. [...]

The binary system that is headed our way - I always wondered why couldn't they figure out an exact time frame of this coming through. Because I remember my source in the Pentagon shared with me that they thought it was coming in 2010. Which I found kind of interesting, because if you go back to 2010, we see the financial collapse, [...] same things that we're seeing now happen then. And of course all of this was being done because they thought this system was coming in. And they were getting ready to do the depopulation agenda back then. But when they saw - the scientists saw - that they had messed up on the date, they had to artificially pump the economy back up, and put it off for a later date. But they're very certain that this is the hour now, because of the water rising in Miami - four inches deep using pumps to keep it off. They're seeing a lot of evidence for it.

And this is what I found out though, that this is what I couldn't wrap my head around. Why don't they know an exact time on it? And it was because you can't see it is the problem. All they can see is the effects of it. Now there's something about I guess the way this field is coming. It's not like a regular debris field, but the way this thing is coming, you can't see it with the telescopes, but what they're able to see is the damage that it does as it's hitting other planets. They saw it when he hit Jupiter, they saw it when he hit other planets within our own galaxy. And this is why they know that we are in line for it as well. But the question is, how much damage will it do here. We don't really know. But this was what was explained to me the reason why they didn't know the exact time. [...]

Why would they do a depopulation agenda if they've got all this stuff coming to begin with? That's something else I've kind of just dealt with myself. And I feel like it has a lot to do with - if it does massive amounts of damage on the earth, they'd in my opinion - just from my own observation - they don't want to have a massive amount of people on the earth, when your military has been practically destroyed. What militaries will survive - China's military is actually going to do very well, because China is considered to be in a safe zone when this stuff comes through. I don't understand why. I guess that means they know a little bit more than what they're letting on to about it. But they're kind of in a safe zone. So is Central Africa. But America - from what I was told from people at the Pentagon - is going to be devastated. America will be devastated through all of this.​

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Wow - that's all pretty sobering intel. I am curious about a couple of details. One, wouldn't debris the size of a basketball burn up in the atmosphere upon entry? Two, why bother to round up Christians and send them to Alaska? Especially if the goal is depopulation? Also, wouldn't such a massive amount of incoming debris totally destroy the satellite system that allows for electronic communication and surveillance? Anyway, thanks for sharing this information that you have received. During these strange and unusual times, it is important to keep an open mind and the information flow active.

[helium]

I share a lot of the same thoughts and feelings that Helium has experienced. The collective unconscious is agitated and changing and we have to be careful to observe as if watching a movie, without becoming too immersed in sadness or anger. Some of the changes I foresee could be very simply implemented. For example, building codes to allow more intentional housing in areas dedicated to agriculture. So, for example, say an area is zoned for one home per 10 or 20 acres. Why can't that be changed to 10 or 20 homes dedicated to intensive farming?

Glass tower office buildings. Rewire some of them and use them for verticle farming. Replumb other glass towers, section them off and turn them into residential housing. Why not?

That will be the clarion call of the future, I figure, "why not?"

AutumnW: Thank you for your kind comment re: my 'Resilience' post.

What is both exhilarating and enormously overwhelming about the changes occurring in today’s world is that there are infinite possible futures from where we stand this day. To me it seems that the futures many of us wish to see evolve are being ignored by shortsightedness and fear. It’s shortsightedness that has brought us all to this point where upheaval is necessary. Surely we will see movement toward localization rather the centralization. Surely we will see what many will consider a loss in quality of life. But what ‘quality’ of our lives in our part of the world has served us thus far in the long term?

What I see, and hope for, is far less materialism while attention to immersive, supportive relationship in community becomes the clarion call. And like you, I say ‘Why not?’

[Gwin Ru]

It looks like somebody woke up... en masse:




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(https://twitter.com/HenryMakow)São Paulo governor Doria, an agent for the Chinese, and a Covid fanatic, told his police today to expel anti-lockdown, pro-Bolsonaro protestors from Paulista Avenue.

Police opened the avenue and saluted the people instead.
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[DaveToo]

I will say what I would like to see in my world.


3. I will see a back lash in May where millions of us storm Washington demanding the return to a Constitutional based government.


Only six more days to go...

[Bill Ryan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlmuNXEqQG4&feature=emb_logo​A note here that might be reassuring for anyone who's worried about what this guy is saying.


The video has been up for 8 days. It's had 41 views and no comments.
His knowledge of astrophysics and geophysics (and therefore, one might reasonably assume, his understanding of what he may or may not have been told by anyone at all) is flimsy and flawed at best. If he really was told anything by any "insiders", he certainly had no idea whatsoever what would be good questions to ask.
Some points to consider: (and this is only a small sample!)

Any incoming asteroids (even many small ones), and definitely any kind of "debris field", would already be publicly tracked and known. And this isn't just a "NASA conspiracy". Many countries and agencies have this independent capability.
Planet X, or whatever it might possibly be, doesn't have to be visible through an optical telescope. Sophisticated infra-red telescopes exist, and objects in the solar system can be tracked and identified on radar.
Running into a debris field might cause some havoc and alarm, for sure. (Like the spectacular fireball that exploded over Chelyabinsk in Feb 2013 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor).) But there's no associated mechanism that could possibly cause significant sea level rise (only melting ice could do that), or dramatic and extreme weather changes.
Any debris field impacts couldn't possibly be predicted with such accuracy that it'd be known months in advance that North America would be hit, but not Africa or China. Remember, the Earth is a spinning ball moving at 1000 mph at the equator. That's quite some moving target.
His "Flat Earth friends" don't inspire any confidence in the company he keeps! :)



I do know that several sources out there (including Elainie's ex-CIA friend (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-Covid-19-the-Honey-Badger-virus&p=1342121&viewfull=1#post1342121)) seem to be referring to vaguely described events in September. That has to be possible... but nothing like this!!

[Gwin Ru]

Catherine Austin Fitts: The injection fraud - it's not a vaccine (https://home.solari.com/deep-state-tactics-101-the-covid-injection-fraud-its-not-a-vaccine/)

Catherine Austin Fitts
Solari Report (https://home.solari.com/deep-state-tactics-101-the-covid-injection-fraud-its-not-a-vaccine/)
Thu, 28 May 2020 00:00 UTC


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What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." ~ William Shakespeare

I am not a scientist. I am not a doctor. I am not a biotech engineer. I am not an attorney. However, I read, listen, appreciate, and try to understand those who are.

I was an investment banker until politics made it impossible to continue to practice my art. I was trained as a portfolio strategist — so I map my world by watching the financial flows and allocation of resources. I was also trained as a conspiracy generator and foot soldier — conspiracies being the fundamental organizing principle of how things get done in our world. It was not until I left the establishment that I learned that those not in the club had been trained to disparage and avoid conspiracies — a clever trick that sabotages their efforts to gather power.

My response to living at war with agencies of the U.S. government for a time was to answer the questions of people who were sufficiently courageous and curious to solicit my opinion. Over many years, that response transformed into two businesses. One was The Solari Report, which continues to grow as a global intelligence network — we seek to help each other understand and navigate what is happening and contribute to positive outcomes. The other was serving as an investment advisor to individuals and families through Solari Investment Advisory Services. After ten years, I converted that business to doing an ESG screen. What those who use it want — that is not otherwise readily available in the retail market — is a screen that reflects knowledge of financial and political corruption. Tracking the metastasizing corruption is an art, not a science.

When you help a family with their finances, it is imperative to understand all their risk issues. Their financial success depends on successful mitigation of all the risks — whether financial or non-financial — that they encounter in their daily lives. Non-financial risks can have a major impact on the allocation of family resources, including attention, time, assets, and money.

Many of my clients and their children had been devastated and drained by health care failures and corruption — and the most common catalyst for this devastation was vaccine death and injury. After their lengthy and horrendous experiences with the health care establishment, they would invariably ask, "If the corruption is this bad in medicine, food, and health, what is going on in the financial world?" Chilled by the thought, they would search out a financial professional who was schooled in U.S. government and financial corruption. And they would find me.

The result of this flow of bright, educated people blessed with the resources to pay for my time was that, for ten years, I got quite an education about the disabilities and death inflicted on our children by what I now call "the great poisoning." I had the opportunity to repeatedly price out the human damage to all concerned — not just the affected children but their parents, siblings, and future generations — mapping the financial costs of vaccine injury again and again and again. These cases were not as unusual as you might expect. Studies indicate that 54% of American children have one or more chronic diseases. Doctors who I trust tell me that number is actually much higher, as many children and their families cannot afford the care and testing necessary to properly diagnose what ails them.

One of the mothers featured in VAXXED — a must-watch documentary for any awake citizen, as is its sequel VAXXED II: The People's Truth — estimated that a heavily autistic child would cost present value $5MM to raise and care for over a lifetime. When my clients who were grandparents insisted that they would not interfere with their children's vaccine choices because it was "none of their business," I would say, "Really? Who has the $5MM? You or your kids? When your kids need the $5MM to raise their vaccine-injured child, are you going to refuse them? You are the banker, and it is your money that is at risk here, so it is your business. Do you want to spend that $5MM on growing a strong family through the generations or on managing a disabled child who did not have to be disabled?" Often, that $5MM in expenditures also translates into divorce, depression, and lost opportunities for siblings.

My clients helped me find the best resources — books, documentaries, articles — on vaccines. You will find many of them linked or reviewed at The Solari Report, including in our Library.

Of all the questions that I had, the one that I spent the most time researching and thinking about was why. Why was the medical establishment intentionally poisoning generations of children? Many of the writers who researched and wrote about vaccine injury and death assumed it was an aberration — resulting from the orthodoxy of a medical establishment that could not face or deal with its mistakes and liabilities. That never made sense to me. Writings by Forrest Maready, Jon Rappoport, Dr. Suzanne Humphries and Arthur Firstenberg have helped me understand the role of vaccines in the con man trick of saving money for insurance companies and the legally liable.

Here is one example of how the trick may play out. A toxin creates a disease. The toxin might be pesticides or industrial pollution or wireless technology radiation. The toxin damages millions of people and their communities. Companies or their insurance provider may be liable for civil or criminal violations. Then a virus is blamed. A "cure" is found in a "vaccine." The pesticide or other toxic exposure is halted just as the vaccine is introduced, and presto, the sickness goes away. The vaccine is declared a success, and the inventor is declared a hero. A potential financial catastrophe has been converted to a profit, including for investors and pension funds. As a portfolio strategist, I admit it has been a brilliant trick and likely has protected the insurance industry from the bankrupting losses it would experience if it had to fairly compensate the people and families destroyed.

Thanks to the work of Robert Kennedy and Mary Holland of Children's Health Defense, I now understand the enormous profits generated by so-called "vaccines" subsequent to the passage of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 and the creation of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program — a federal no-fault mechanism for compensating vaccine-related injuries or deaths by establishing a claim procedure involving the United States Court of Federal Claims and special masters. Call a drug or biotech cocktail a "vaccine," and pharmaceutical and biotech companies are free from any liabilities — the taxpayer pays. Unfortunately, this system has become an open invitation to make billions from "injectibles," particularly where government regulations and laws can be used to create a guaranteed market through mandates. As government agencies and legislators as well as the corporate media have developed various schemes to participate in the billions of profits, significant conflicts of interest have resulted.

The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREPA or the PREP Act) became law in 2005, adding to corporate freedoms from liability. The Act
"is a controversial tort liability shield intended to protect vaccine manufacturers from financial risk in the event of a declared public health emergency. The act specifically affords to drug makers immunity from potential financial liability for clinical trials of . . . vaccine at the discretion of the Executive branch of government. PREPA strengthens and consolidates the oversight of litigation against pharmaceutical companies under the purview of the secretary of Health and Human Services." (~ Wikipedia) Over time, this has evolved to the engineering of epidemics — the medical version of false flags. In theory, these can be "psyops" or events engineered with chemical warfare, biowarfare, or wireless technology. If this sounds strange, dive into all the writings of the "Targeted Individuals."

I learned about this first-hand when I was litigating with the Department of Justice and was experiencing significant physical harassment. I tried to hire several security firms; they would check my references and then decline the work, saying it was too dangerous. The last one took pity and warned me not to worry about electronic weaponry, letting me know that my main problem would be low-grade biowarfare. This biowarfare expert predicted that the opposing team would drill holes in the wall of my house and inject the "invisible enemy." Sure enough, that is exactly what happened. I sold my house and left town. That journey began a long process of learning how poisoning and nonlethal weapons are used — whether to move people out of rent-controlled apartments, sicken the elderly to move them to more expensive government-subsidized housing, gangstalk political or business targets, or weaken or kill litigants — and the list goes on. Poisoning turned out to be a much more common tactic in the game of political and economic warfare in America than I had previously understood.

After I finished my litigation, I spent several years detoxing from heavy metal toxicity — including from lead, arsenic, and aluminum. As I drove around America, I realized it was not just me. Americans increasingly looked like a people struggling with high loads of heavy metals toxicity. In the process of significantly decreasing my unusually high levels of heavy metals, I learned what a difference the toxic load had made to my outlook, my energy, and my ability to handle complex information.

This brings me to the question of what exactly a vaccine is and what exactly is in the concoctions being injected into people today as well as the witches' brews currently under development.

In 2017, Italian researchers reviewed the ingredients of 44 types of so-called "vaccines." They discovered heavy metal debris and biological contamination in every human vaccine they tested. The researchers stated, "The quantity of foreign bodies detected and, in some cases, their unusual chemical compositions baffled us." They then drew the obvious conclusion, namely, that because the micro- and nanocontaminants were "neither biocompatible nor biodegradable," they were "biopersistent" and could cause inflammatory effects right away — or later (http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf)

Aborted fetal tissue, animal tissue, aluminum, mercury, genetically altered materials — and what else?

Whatever the ingredients of vaccines have been to date, nothing is more bizarre and unsettling than the proposals of what might be included in them in the future. Strategies — already well-funded and well on the way — include brain-machine interface nanotechnology, digital identity tracking devices, and technology with an expiration date that can be managed and turned off remotely. One report indicates that the Danish government and U.S. Navy had been paying a tech company in Denmark to make an injectible chip that would be compatible with one of the leading cryptocurrencies.

I was recently reading Mary Holland's excellent 2012 review of U.S. vaccine court decisions ("Compulsory vaccination, the Constitution, and the hepatitis B mandate for infants and young children," Yale Journal of Health Policy, Law, and Ethics) and I froze and thought, "Why are we calling the injectibles that Bill Gates and his colleagues are promoting 'vaccines'? Are they really vaccines?"

Most people are familiar with how Bill Gates made and kept his fortune. He acquired an operating system that was loaded into your computer. It was widely rumored that the U.S. intelligence agencies had a back door. The simultaneous and sudden explosion of computer viruses then made it necessary to regularly update your operating system, allowing Gates and his associates to regularly add whatever they wanted into your software. One of my more knowledgeable software developers once said to me in the 1990s — when Microsoft really took off — "Microsoft makes really sh***y software." But of course, the software was not really their business. Their business was accessing and aggregating all of your data. Surveillance capitalism was underway.

The Department of Justice launched an antitrust case against Microsoft in 1998, just as the $21 trillion started to disappear from the U.S. government — no doubt with the help of specially designed software and IT systems. During the settlement negotiations that permitted Gates to keep his fortune, he started the Gates Foundation and his new philanthropy career. I laughed the other day when my tweet of one of Robert Kennedy Jr.'s articles from Children's Health Defense — describing the gruesome technology Gates is hoping to roll out through "injectibles" — inspired a response: "Well, I guess he is finally fulfilling his side of his antitrust settlement."

If you look at what is being created and proposed in the way of injectibles, it looks to me like these technological developments are organized around several potential goals.

The first and most important goal is the replacement of the existing U.S. dollar currency system used by the general population with a digital transaction system that can be combined with digital identification and tracking. The goal is to end currencies as we know them and replace them with an embedded credit card system that can be integrated with various forms of control, potentially including mind control. "De-dollarization" is threatening the dollar global reserve system. The M1 and M2 money supply have increased in the double digits over the last year as a result of a new round of quantitative easing by the Fed. The reason we have not entered into hyperinflation is because of the dramatic drop in money velocity occasioned by converting Covid-19 into an engineered shutdown of significant economic activity and the bankrupting of millions of small and medium-sized businesses. The managers of the dollar system are under urgent pressure to use new technology to centralize economic flows and preserve their control of the financial system.

Just as Gates installed an operating system in our computers, now the vision is to install an operating system in our bodies and use "viruses" to mandate an initial installation followed by regular updates.

Now I appreciate why Gates and his colleagues want to call these technologies "vaccines." If they can persuade the body politic that injectible credit cards or injectible surveillance trackers or injectable brain-machine interface nanotechnologies are "vaccines," then they can enjoy the protection of a century or more of legal decisions and laws that support their efforts to mandate what they want to do. As well, they can insist that U.S. taxpayers fund, through the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, the damages for which they would otherwise be liable as a result of their experiments — and violations of the Nuremberg Code and numerous civil and criminal laws — on the general population. The scheme is quite clever. Get the general population to go along with defining their new injectible high-tech concoctions as "vaccines," and they can slip them right into the vaccine pipeline. No need to worry about the disease and death that will result from something this unnatural delivered this quickly. The freedom from liability guaranteed by the PREP Act through the declaration of an emergency — and the ability to keep the emergency going through contact tracing — can protect them from the millions of deaths likely to follow such human experimentation. Ideally, they can just blame the deaths on a virus.

A colleague once told me how Webster's Dictionary came about. Webster said that the way the evildoers would change the Constitution was not by amending it but by changing the definitions — a legal sneak attack.

I believe that Gates and the pharma and biotech industries are literally reaching to create a global control grid by installing digital interface components and hooking us up to Microsoft's new $10 billion JEDI cloud at the Department of Defense as well as Amazon's multibillion cloud contract for the CIA that is shared with all U.S. intelligence agencies. Why do you think President Trump has the military organizing to stockpile syringes for vaccines? It is likely because the military is installing the roaming operating system for integration into their cloud. Remember — the winner in the AI superpower race is the AI system with access to the most data. Accessing your body and my body on a 24/7 basis generates a lot of data. If the Chinese do it, the Americans will want to do it, too. In fact, the rollout of human "operating systems" may be one of the reasons why the competition around Huawei and 5G telecommunications has become so fractious. As Frank Clegg, former President of Microsoft Canada has warned us, 5G was developed by the Israelis for crowd control.

In the face of global "de-dollarization," this is how the dollar syndicate can assert the central control it needs to maintain and extend its global reserve currency financial power. This includes protecting its leadership from the civil and criminal liability related to explosive levels of financial and health care fraud in recent decades.

Which brings me back to you and me. Why are we calling these formulations "vaccines"? If I understand the history of case law, vaccines, in legal terms, are medicine. Intentional heavy metal poisoning is not medicine. Injectible surveillance components are not medicine. Injectible credit cards are not medicine. An injectible brain-machine interface is not a medicine. Immunity for insurance companies does not create human immunity.

We need to stop allowing these concoctions to be referred to by a word that the courts and the general population define and treat as medicine and protect from legal and financial liability.

The perpetrators of this fraud are trying a very neat trick — one that will help them go much faster and cancel out a lot of risk — at our expense. I understand why they are doing it.

What I don't understand is why we are helping them. Why are we acquiescing in calling these bizarre and deeply dangerous concoctions "vaccines"? Whatever they are, they are not medicine.

So, what shall our naming convention be? What name shall we give to the relevant poisons, neurologically damaging metals, and digital shackles?

Whatever we call them, I know one thing. THEY ARE NOT MEDICINE, WHICH MEANS THEY SURE ARE NOT VACCINES.


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Note that 'quarantine' is a word for restricting the movement and rights of infected people. Restricting the movement and rights of healthy people is usually called fascism.)

https://www.sott.net/article/434514-Navigating-the-Hysteria-And-Fear-Around-Covid-19

[AutumnW]

I share a lot of the same thoughts and feelings that Helium has experienced. The collective unconscious is agitated and changing and we have to be careful to observe as if watching a movie, without becoming too immersed in sadness or anger. Some of the changes I foresee could be very simply implemented. For example, building codes to allow more intentional housing in areas dedicated to agriculture. So, for example, say an area is zoned for one home per 10 or 20 acres. Why can't that be changed to 10 or 20 homes dedicated to intensive farming?

Glass tower office buildings. Rewire some of them and use them for verticle farming. Replumb other glass towers, section them off and turn them into residential housing. Why not?

That will be the clarion call of the future, I figure, "why not?"

AutumnW: Thank you for your kind comment re: my 'Resilience' post.

What is both exhilarating and enormously overwhelming about the changes occurring in today’s world is that there are infinite possible futures from where we stand this day. To me it seems that the futures many of us wish to see evolve are being ignored by shortsightedness and fear. It’s shortsightedness that has brought us all to this point where upheaval is necessary. Surely we will see movement toward localization rather the centralization. Surely we will see what many will consider a loss in quality of life. But what ‘quality’ of our lives in our part of the world has served us thus far in the long term?

What I see, and hope for, is far less materialism while attention to immersive, supportive relationship in community becomes the clarion call. And like you, I say ‘Why not?’

And while we're at it, it would be great to pull up a lot of fencing in ranching areas and return it to natural grasslands and areas for bison to roam free. It makes sense now that people aren't eating beef nearly as much. I imagine a lot of wheat growing areas are converting to soy. A shrinking population is a good idea too. We live too long. I want to let nature take its course. If I get anything terminal, I'm not going to fight it, I am just going to let myself go and then have my body composted--if possible.

If I am able to just lose myself somewhere in the wildnerness, who's to stop me??

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Note that 'quarantine' is a word for restricting the movement and rights of infected people. Restricting the movement and rights of healthy people is usually called fascism.)

https://www.sott.net/article/434514-Navigating-the-Hysteria-And-Fear-Around-Covid-19

And what is it called when you slowly lift lockdown so the medical system isn't overwhelmed?

[helium]

And while we're at it, it would be great to pull up a lot of fencing in ranching areas and return it to natural grasslands and areas for bison to roam free. It makes sense now that people aren't eating beef nearly as much. I imagine a lot of wheat growing areas are converting to soy. A shrinking population is a good idea too. We live too long. I want to let nature take its course. If I get anything terminal, I'm not going to fight it, I am just going to let myself go and then have my body composted--if possible.

If I am able to just lose myself somewhere in the wildnerness, who's to stop me??

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Note that 'quarantine' is a word for restricting the movement and rights of infected people. Restricting the movement and rights of healthy people is usually called fascism.)

https://www.sott.net/article/434514-Navigating-the-Hysteria-And-Fear-Around-Covid-19

And what is it called when you slowly lift lockdown so the medical system isn't overwhelmed?



And what is it called when you slowly lift lockdown so the medical system isn't overwhelmed?

Would that be called caution?

But I wouldn’t want to step into what appears to me as an online sludge-puddle using provocative terms such as fascism in the same sentence as rights. Better yet to remain true to the intent of this thread by proposing accurate terms to be used in the future if measures need be taken to protect life in the event of the release of another bioweapon. ‘Folks, please take shelter and prepare as best you can as your healthcare system, governments at all levels, and your military meet the challenges of an extremely novel war effort.’ Hmm. Could we call that ‘seek safety?’ And maybe we could say ‘work together’ when we speak of sharing truthful information that brings safety to everyone?
A famous man once said ‘I have a dream . . .’ I have a lot of those.

It’s called The Coming PsychoSocial Transition – do you want a transition into a livable world, or not? If so, then this is the place to talk about what you’d like to see in that world-to-come as a result of the spread of this virus and all that it has entailed. But this is a place where it’s even more necessary to talk about how to get there. I hear very little of that in this thread, or anywhere else.

Yes, having lived in North Dakota within two miles of the Badlands and the Roosevelt National Parks, I’d love to see fences come down and bison thrive all across the land. Instead, everyone I knew in ND has moved away due to the influx of big oil squatters who care very little for anything that lives on that land. Before the bison come back, in the US and in Canada, oil extraction has to go. When big oil does leave there will be enormous scars left behind on the land that require healing, as well as healing of fractured communities.

Can this COVID fiasco spur us on to achieve great things? Can mindless violent acts spur us on to achieve great things? I agree with Bill, the only solution is a spiritual one. But what does that mean? Those are only words. Spirituality is something different to everyone, even on this forum. How can that term become meaningful in the same way to multitudes of people? What we have in common is experience – experience in a world that we share. What if that world that we share expands in some way so that our roots in consciousness are laid bare for all to see? I’ve lived my life in such a world. I’ve never spoken of it and when I’ve made attempts I’ve been ridiculed at all levels of society, from hippy culture to high-level science and academics, and everywhere in between. If I could share the actual experience that I attempted to share in my story of The Bridge (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110336-Covid19-the-coming-psycho-social-transition&p=1342427&viewfull=1#post1342427) that is the one that I'd choose over all others in an effort to make clear that each of us are part of a human endeavor with a shared goal that transcends all others. But stories are stories and experience is just that, raw unadulterated being-there experience.

In today’s internet meme world there is no hope of developing universal understandings. Sorry, but that’s what I see. Browsing the internet does not qualify for experience. Experience is something you seek, or that you endure and even learn to embrace when it’s seemingly forced upon you. You learn from it and grow, personally, day after day, year after year. A universally active social stance toward learning will bring all those wonderful things like free-range buffalo herds and respect for life that extends all the way to a deeper respect for death. How do you cultivate a love for learning in a place where individuals have no clue as to how they are connected to others except for their shortsighted ‘sharing’ via social networking sites? How do you cultivate a love for learning when social institutions (from K-12 to universities) make every attempt to stifle it? How do you tell your family and friends that they’re being lied to at every turn? How do you face the task of opening the flood gates to express what you’ve hidden from everyone – in self defense – when you know that time is short and your experience must be shared? Or is it really necessary to interfere?

I hate it when I rant and am stupid enough to post it.

By the way, AutumnW, thankfully at this point there is no one to stop you from losing yourself in wilderness. I’ve spent half my life living in wilderness and have had the same thoughts as to where and how I’d like to shed this body. Unfortunately I waited too long. The body doesn’t function like it once did and those places are no longer accessible. Maybe this thought is sour grapes, but peaceful places are not always found where the physical body roams. There are others.

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