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pueblo
19th March 2020, 10:48
I have a relative in his late 50s in the UK just diagnosed with Stage IV bone cancer, he has been told they will not give him Chemo because....Covid-19. Talk about bad timing...or fortuitous?

Based on this fact his only chance for proper treatment is, in my opinion, from the sphere of alternative medicine.

Can anyone share any advice/resources that might help me compile some ideas of possible treatments for him to look at?

He is a "normie" and not sure how open he will be to suggestions for treatments outside Alopathic medicine but it will of course be his choice finally whether to proceed with any suggested treatments or not. I feel it is at least my duty to open this door for him regardless of the outcome.

Thanks

Bill Ryan
19th March 2020, 11:02
Can anyone share any advice/resources that might help me compile some ideas of possible treatments for him to look at?

Please see these two threads, which contain a LOT of information: :flower:


All About Cancer (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108134-All-About-Cancer)
Help me decide my treatment (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110271-Help-me-decide-my-treatment/page3)

EnergyGem
19th March 2020, 11:15
Hi Pueblo,

Falun Dafa has healed many people from various ailments, many of them terminal.

Take a look at this book, it is first hand accounts of people being healed from life threatening illnesses:

Health effects:

http://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2005/4/3/59184.html

Actual practice:

www.falundafa.org

pueblo
19th March 2020, 12:21
Thanks Bill and EnergyGem :flower:

nghandour
20th March 2020, 00:17
I hope you will be fine and found best way to get healthy :bearhug:

DeDukshyn
20th March 2020, 00:53
Stage IV? hmmm ...

My dad died of cancer a few years back, in his later stages, cannabis oil helped. It didn't cure him, but it was THC+CBD oil, (phoenix tears, I think?), and it cut pain (along with the opioids), and just put him in a great mood, so his quality of life improved. I am really glad he had that; as I said didn't cure him, it was applied way too late as a treatment, but he enjoyed how it lifted his mood and spirits and made him want to socialize more with family, and it allowed us more quality time with him.

HaveBlue
20th March 2020, 03:23
Pueblo, at times like these (cancer diagnosis not corona V) people offer all sorts of advice. Some care and others see an opportunity to 'hold the floor and do some grandstanding.

An old saying of 'The pathway to hell is paved with good intentions' is old and has stood the test of time for good reason. The best intentions of people who want to be helpful inevitably come to blows with others who also have advice, but superior to to advice previously given by another.

When my wife was diagnosed with a High grade Glioblastoma in 2002 she had many well wishers! This kind of diagnosis is 95% fatal within 5 years according to hospital statistics. It is in laymans terms a very aggressive brain tumor. (she lasted just over 2 years from then)

If this friend of yours is a 'normie' as you put it, I suggest you just quietly support them in their way of coping. Things like Bone Cancer are like brain tumors in may ways, and that the outcome is pretty certain, and that the treatment is buying time and not much else. The only decision is the quality of that remaining time.

You may find yourself swamped with stories of miracle cures etc...but they are always cases of misdiagnosis to begin with. Some one did not 'beat' the camcer if they never actually had it to begin with. The famous Dr Ed Mitchel of Apollo 14 fame tells a similar tale, but it ended up as the one I have just mentioned.

I will say that our minds are incredibly powerful things indeed and having a positive but realistic attitude to these things is helpful and even important. Being down in the dumps and depressed puts extra strain on the immune system which is desperately needed to battle the cancer with. Of course not being depressed at these times is easier said than done. But the facts are what they are.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/171372#risk-factors Scroll down for where it says 'Stage 4' and you will see that corona virus has little to do with the decision to deny or delay treatment. Only that weakening the immune system with Chemo raises the chance of getting the Corona V and not much in the tank to fight it with. At that stage there is not a lot that can be done unfortunately and it is all about the comfort of the patient. The treatments are often very unpleasant to go through and the decisions to treat or not are made by a team of Oncologists who take everything into account. I think they are making the right decision.

They are professionals and deal with this stuff day in and day out. Because it is often the first time we have ever heard of it and can be easy to assume that they are in the dark as much as you!
Have faith and try not to spend too much time recalling or searching out horror stories where the doctors screwed things up! But still stay vigilant and make sure that everything that is supposed to be happening is indeed happening if you can. Things can and do get missed from time to time.

They like to give people hope but without giving unrealistic expectations either. This is not easy and a fine balance must be met, without misinforming the patient or their family and friends.

I say to just enjoy what time you have left and try to make it as comfortable and pleasant as you are able to. I am sorry to hear of this situation you are dealing with. It is as real as real gets in this life. few can even imagine what it is like until you are faced with it.
You may find like I did just how petty and shallow a lot of things are. How unimportant some things can be in the bigger picture. Choosing what can wait until after the passing of your friend and things that cannot wait.

There are many positives that can be taken from this experience for you if you are open to it. Some people become more interested people, who take part in life more than they did before. They make adjustments in their own lives due to contemplating their own mortality.

Since death is the most inevitable thing we have in this life it is a good thing to ponder, but you need to be in the right frame of mind to do this. To ignore it altogether will only make it more confusing and unhappy than it need be.
There may be others going to pieces and not coping so well at this time. You may or not be one of those people. If you can remember it is all about the patient and not yourself so much, this will be helpful. Being helpful as opposed to being part of the problem is not always obvious. Usually a spouse who 'knows what is best' and starts to behave like a gatekeeper to the patient does not always get the balance right either. They themselves need a break but often refuse to take one. Staying mentally healthy is important so do not neglect your own proper food and sleep.

You have my condolences and I hope you cope and manage this period in your life well, without looking back in the future wishing you had done or not done, said or not said things differently. I wish you the very best of good luck.

ariel70
21st March 2020, 05:36
Go look up Chris Beat Cancer. He has an online video course that delivers all the information he's gathered over the years and how to utilize it. He cured himself of colon cancer and has multiple interviews with people who also chose the alternative route on his website (not people that he worked with, he only started that recently) and he gathered all this knowledge from that, and from research.

Also, Medical Medium has written an article on it and I believe he has a live..? Just google Medical Medium cancer and it will pop up.

But Chris Beat Cancer is the fastest way to get going I guess.

First steps is to remove ALL processed foods + dairy and eggs - especially eggs - and eat as much - preferebly raw - fruits and vegetables as possible instead. The reason eggs have to be removed is that they feed eggs to viruses in labs, and so they continue eating that when they get let out of the labs, and some viruses are the cause - together with toxins - of a whole lot of cancers. This info is from the Medical Medium, and his info is rock solid in my opinion. I healed so many weird symptoms with his advice, together with so many other people.
Meat is also not awesome, but it doesn't feed a cancer like an egg does. On stage four though, you preferably will keep it out, and preferably go raw vegan with whole foods. And do NOT be afraid of fruit! Truth is it kills cancer, because when the cancer cells open up to the sugar in fruits, they also open up to a whole lot of cancer killing compounds. This is what the research on refined sugar does not show. But the research on fruits and vegetables show that it reduces all kinds of disease. It's the same with raw honey.
Also remove all toxins in the home, like scented candles, scented soaps and scented this and that, that stuff is extremely toxic.

AutumnW
21st March 2020, 06:22
Pueblo, so sorry to hear about your relative! He's in the last stages of terminal cancer so I would go the opiate and pot route. Chemotherapy is awful and if it's that advanced, a combination of prayer and pain relief is likely the best option. Early stages are one thing, but late stage... Sure wouldn't want to go through any more Hell than necessary!

My husband has been having some symptoms that are suspicious lately. Could easily be nothing, but if it's not, will he have necessary interventions put off until it's too late?

This is what those who yammer on about media and social "fear porn" don't get. Those with the virus could completely collapse the medical system. That IS something to fear.

Hughe
21st March 2020, 22:10
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4096024/


Mebendazole, a well-known anti-helminthic drug in wide clinical use, has anti-cancer properties that have been elucidated in a broad range of pre-clinical studies across a number of different cancer types. Significantly, there are also two case reports of anti-cancer activity in humans. The data are summarised and discussed in relation to suggested mechanisms of action. Based on the evidence presented, it is proposed that mebendazole would synergise with a range of other drugs, including existing chemotherapeutics, and that further exploration of the potential of mebendazole as an anti-cancer therapeutic is warranted. A number of possible combinations with other drugs are discussed in the Appendix.

A Korean youtuber is disscusing about cancer treament using Mebendazole with the director of Care Oncology Clinic in UK.
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