Dealing with fear and panic

[muxfolder]

I'm not sure if this the right place for this thread, mods can move it elsewhere if not, but right now, it's certainly extremely important to stay calm. I was writing my own experiences on another threat where I was referring to the interview David Icke did. This is what I was writing:

I realized after seeing the interview that I've been living in a state of fear for a long time because of this outbreak. I had a flu for at least two weeks which started roughly week before the outbreak, which did not help at all, and just now starting to feel better. Not sure if it was this Wuhuu or not because our government suggested people simply to stay home and deal with it. Unless there's emergency of course (now that I think of it, very wise decision), so it was not tested. Some people seem to have fewer symptoms, I had only a little bit of fever, shortness of breath and sore throat without cough or runny nose etc. Common cold I think, but you can't help but think. :p

So yesterday was the worst. Panic attacks, sweating palms, heart racing, even considered suicide without any reason at all for a while and couldn't get over it for couple of minutes. Another thing I realized is that I didn't know my body any more. So that's another thing I have to come familiar with. After 5 hellish days I'm starting to feel little better. Not sure if I still have to stay home or not, but 6 days forced in isolation without human contact is not fun at all. Lucky there's still phone and internet of course. The funny thing is that my fellow Finns seem to be quite loose. You can actually meet other people if you have no fever. As far as I know I'm allowed to meet other people as long as I keep at least 1-2 meters distance. So I was thinking maybe calling one of my neighbors if he was interested in some activity at least. :)

[AutumnW]

Oh no! That's terrible! How awful for you! I don't know what to suggest other than distraction. Watch a good movie, play games, stay in touch with people who are thinking about other things. If you have a "what if" mind, try to redirect it by taking creative scenarios about other subjects and write short stories?

It's hard. I had a terrible time around a full moon early last summer. Just unbelievable. I felt like I wasn't me anymore and I was filled with anxiety and dread and I wasn't even sure what it was all about, but felt it might have something to do with the supernatural,or aliens, or something like that. It was ghastly. It passed after about a week. Then I came on to the forum and found out all sorts of people were having a hard time at the same time.

Just know that you are not alone and that your chances of catching this are still fairly low,if you are taking precautions. And if you are young and healthy you will likely be okay if you should get it. :happy dog:

[Ratszinger]

Buy the book on amazon titled, "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin De Becker. Then you'll have a better grasp of it.

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks for the thread. :bearhug: We need to be especially tolerant and understanding on Avalon, too, recognizing that various people are going through the sequence of adapting to the new reality.

It's all in stages, a spectrum from Denial to Acceptance. But it can be a bumpy ride in between. Some can adapt in hours or days. Others, for all kinds of good reasons, may take weeks or even months.

Whatever the new reality is! For some, it's about not going to work, staying at home, having to cancel vacations (or even parties), and so on. And in some cases, caring for others (or oneself!) getting sick. Or just worrying about money. Or friends in other countries. So all that contributes to a high level of stress.

And people need to express that. When they do, in all kinds of ways, we need to listen and understand. Some members here might have a bad day now and then, and our collective role is always to support if we can.

:flower:

[norman]

The only advice I can give is cut off the external data completely if you can't or don't have the capacity to widen it.

We here on this forum have been going through a frenzy of bunker prepper energy projection. That's not Bill's fault, he's a bunker prepper. So is Mike Adams. Bunker prepping is for bunker preppers and that's all good, they are going their own path. For the vast majority of us, we need a very different energy. An in the think of it energy that's got a positive overlay and an intelligent underbelly of logical safety.

If you can't find much of that here yet, switch off and listen to your favorite music or whatever will help you to reset your fear condition. Fear is not 'real' but danger is.

[muxfolder]

I have to admit I was emotional wreck before all this began so it doesn't surprise me I reacted like I did. I was not ready to handle this now. Speaking out loud really seems to help. :)

[Pam]

muxfolder, I really appreciate you being so candid. To be very sick and then to have to deal with the angst and fear alone must have been unbearable. I had a sort of meltdown for a couple of days and I felt like I was going to make myself get sick because I was stressing my body out along with my mind.

I quit reading and even tried not to think about this whole virus thing and all the other implications for over a day. I am seeing how challenging it is to maintain a balance. It seems to come and go. I feel like I have it figured out and then I fall back. If we break it up into smaller chunks like days, hours or even minutes it is easier to do.

[Bill Ryan]

muxfolder, I really appreciate you being so candid. To be very sick and then to have to deal with the angst and fear alone must have been unbearable. I had a sort of meltdown for a couple of days and I felt like I was going to make myself get sick because I was stressing my body out along with my mind.

I quit reading and even tried not to think about this whole virus thing and all the other implications for over a day. I am seeing how challenging it is to maintain a balance. It seems to come and go. I feel like I have it figured out and then I fall back. If we break it up into smaller chunks like days, hours or even minutes it is easier to do.Yes. :flower:

In his recent videos, Chris Martenson has been recommending starting a garden. (Or, enlarging it if you already have one!) The key thing there is to do things with your hands to balance all the intensive head stuff. That can make more of a difference than one might ever imagine.

I spend many hours a day at my desk, but yesterday I balanced that by doing some 'yard work' (I don't really have a 'yard'! But I was mending some fences with large, heavy wooden poles), and every day almost without fail I go out for a half-hour uphill one-mile-round-trip hike with my dog — when the sun's shining, if at all possible, and I can be out in just a T-shirt. (Vitamin D! :muscle: )

There's always something to do that can get us out of our heads for a while, extroverting our attention out on to the 'real', physical world. Even if it's sewing, or mending something small, or creating an interesting, experimental new meal.

This might all seem small and trivial. But — besides expressing ourselves openly here on the forum and elsewhere — these kinds of 'real world' activities can really really help.

:sun:

[Caliban]

Muxfolder,

Go watch some really really positive videos with people who encourage your strength and your resilience and your Spritual indomitability.

It's okay to be afraid. It's a vibration that's all. And there are higher vibrations you can tune into. Keep reaching for those, whether an angelic channeled video or a little walk outside or affirmations or prayers or just sitting in the silence.

We are so much larger than this. And whether we live or die (inevitable eventually) we are eternal and nothing can harm who we really are.

Sending you a strong hand.

[Peter UK]

I have to admit I was emotional wreck before all this began so it doesn't surprise me I reacted like I did. I was not ready to handle this now. Speaking out loud really seems to help. :)
Glad that you did because as we all know in the vast majority of cases it's good to talk and you are amongst friends here. When there is a perceived problem it's magnitude is often halved when shared.



There's always something to do that can get us out of our heads for a while, extroverting our attention out on to the 'real', physical world. Even if it's sewing, or mending something small, or creating an interesting, experimental new meal.


Or simply make use of the excellent threads on the forum, unrelated specifically to the current crisis, that are full of positive intention, wisdom, humour and knowledge, that challenge one's growth.



Just know that you are not alone and that your chances of catching this are still fairly low,if you are taking precautions. And if you are young and healthy you will likely be okay if you should get it.
And the above I think is an important reminder to retain balance and worth reiterating.

Despite the magnitude of the problem we really don't need to buy into the collective consciousness aspect of it which in the main will be fear driven and a major objective of the crisis. A pragmatic awareness will suffice.

Thanks for sharing. :flower:

[Elainie]

I might suggest EFT to help in these trying times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRq8o1MEUtU

[AutumnW]

Mux,

Am relieved for you that you are feeling a little better and that all the advice has been helpful. I think Bill Ryan's advice is the best, to get out and do something with your hands and failing that to do something indoors with your hands.

Sinking your hands into the soil with a spirit of atonement, feeling the mycelial networks 'speaking' directly to your skin is the most beautiful experience. Walking barefoot in grass or newly churned soil is literally grounding and gets right to your heart in a soothing way, too.

[Isserley]

On top of corona virus problem, this morning we had 5,4 earthquake here in Zagreb, Croatia..

A powerful earthquake has struck Zagreb today on 6:25 Am CET, damaging buildings, burying vehicles in rubble and causing several fires. Only one girl is in critical condition.
What else will happen next..

https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2020/3/22/af93803d3e4f486485a762177879e44f_18.jpg

[muxfolder]

On top of corona virus problem, this morning we had 5,4 earthquake here in Zagreb, Croatia..

A powerful earthquake has struck Zagreb today on 6:25 Am CET, damaging buildings, burying vehicles in rubble and causing several fires. Only one girl is in critical condition.
What else will happen next..

https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2020/3/22/af93803d3e4f486485a762177879e44f_18.jpg

That's just awful. :shocked: We're really lucky here because we don't even have earthquakes. Hope you'll be ok.

[TomKat]

I'm not sure if this the right place for this thread, mods can move it elsewhere if not, but right now, it's certainly extremely important to stay calm. I was writing my own experiences on another threat where I was referring to the interview David Icke did. This is what I was writing:

I realized after seeing the interview that I've been living in a state of fear for a long time because of this outbreak. I had a flu for at least two weeks which started roughly week before the outbreak, which did not help at all, and just now starting to feel better. Not sure if it was this Wuhuu or not because our government suggested people simply to stay home and deal with it. Unless there's emergency of course (now that I think of it, very wise decision), so it was not tested. Some people seem to have fewer symptoms, I had only a little bit of fever, shortness of breath and sore throat without cough or runny nose etc. Common cold I think, but you can't help but think. :p

So yesterday was the worst. Panic attacks, sweating palms, heart racing, even considered suicide without any reason at all for a while and couldn't get over it for couple of minutes. Another thing I realized is that I didn't know my body any more. So that's another thing I have to come familiar with. After 5 hellish days I'm starting to feel little better. Not sure if I still have to stay home or not, but 6 days forced in isolation without human contact is not fun at all. Lucky there's still phone and internet of course. The funny thing is that my fellow Finns seem to be quite loose. You can actually meet other people if you have no fever. As far as I know I'm allowed to meet other people as long as I keep at least 1-2 meters distance. So I was thinking maybe calling one of my neighbors if he was interested in some activity at least. :)

I've not felt any fear of this outbreak, but 2 or 3 times in the last few days, I've felt a panic coming on that I knew was not mine, it was "in the air." And I had physical symptoms, which quickly left when I realized it was not my panic. You might be an empath.

[Peter UK]

I've felt any fear of this outbreak, but 2 or 3 times in the last few days, I've felt a panic coming on that I knew was not mine, it was "in the air." And I had physical symptoms, which quickly left when I realized it was not my panic. You might be an empath.

And that is probably a perfect example of the collective consciousness as it is presently functioning. What you have realised there is critical, which is the discrimination that there exists the opportunity for non-identification which isn't denial but a state of being presently aware of choices, ownership and authenticity. Some may refer to this as a question of sovereignty.

The collective consciousness is an extremely persuasive energy, powerful and real only to the extent that we individually validate it. If we can stand outside of it, grounded and integrated for the most part, we change its composition, it's potency and its power to affect. We starve it of the nutrition it requires and it weakens through attrition.

It starts with each and every individual, that is the battleground of the current scenario and without wishing to belittle the nature of the challenge, which is very real, it presents ultimately as a crisis of opportunity.

[muxfolder]

I'm not sure if this the right place for this thread, mods can move it elsewhere if not, but right now, it's certainly extremely important to stay calm. I was writing my own experiences on another threat where I was referring to the interview David Icke did. This is what I was writing:

I realized after seeing the interview that I've been living in a state of fear for a long time because of this outbreak. I had a flu for at least two weeks which started roughly week before the outbreak, which did not help at all, and just now starting to feel better. Not sure if it was this Wuhuu or not because our government suggested people simply to stay home and deal with it. Unless there's emergency of course (now that I think of it, very wise decision), so it was not tested. Some people seem to have fewer symptoms, I had only a little bit of fever, shortness of breath and sore throat without cough or runny nose etc. Common cold I think, but you can't help but think. :p

So yesterday was the worst. Panic attacks, sweating palms, heart racing, even considered suicide without any reason at all for a while and couldn't get over it for couple of minutes. Another thing I realized is that I didn't know my body any more. So that's another thing I have to come familiar with. After 5 hellish days I'm starting to feel little better. Not sure if I still have to stay home or not, but 6 days forced in isolation without human contact is not fun at all. Lucky there's still phone and internet of course. The funny thing is that my fellow Finns seem to be quite loose. You can actually meet other people if you have no fever. As far as I know I'm allowed to meet other people as long as I keep at least 1-2 meters distance. So I was thinking maybe calling one of my neighbors if he was interested in some activity at least. :)

I've felt any fear of this outbreak, but 2 or 3 times in the last few days, I've felt a panic coming on that I knew was not mine, it was "in the air." And I had physical symptoms, which quickly left when I realized it was not my panic. You might be an empath.

Those suicidal thoughts were strange indeed. They were very strong and compulsory like someone was trying to make me do something to myself I did not want to do. After that there was a panic attack and then I was suddenly fine. I've never even considered suicide myself.

[TomKat]

Those suicidal thoughts were strange indeed. They were very strong and compulsory like someone was trying to make me do something to myself I did not want to do. After that there was a panic attack and then I was suddenly fine. I've never even considered suicide myself.

If you're wading in the ocean and a big wave is coming, you dive into it to be safe, rather than let it break on you and sweep you off your feet. Same with feelings that come from outside you, trying to become yours. You charge into the feeling, fully explore it until it dissolves. You relish it, like "isn't this great, feeling these powerful feelings!" You admire it and just thoroughly inspect it. And it will go find someone else to bother.

[kudzy]

I found the following 22 minute long podcast to be profoundly insightful and helpful. It offers some excellent advice to help one stay calm and centered. Meditation is a great tool to have. I sincerely hope that you find it equally helpful in these trying times. Please give this a listen. I promise you won't be disappointed.

https://samharris.org/podcasts/193-m...ion-emergency/

Be safe and smart.
Much love,
Darren

[Wind]

You're not alone, brother. We will get through this and it will lead to something better.

I hope these will help anyone dealing with fear and anxiety. :heart:

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

~ Frank Herbert, Dune


Staying Conscious in the Face of Adversity | A Special Message From Eckhart Tolle

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Corona Lockdown! Can Anything Positive Come From This?! | Russell Brand

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Deep peace - Reassuring words

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[norman]

I found the following 22 minute long podcast to be profoundly insightful and helpful. It offers some excellent advice to help one stay calm and centered. Meditation is a great tool to have. I sincerely hope that you find it equally helpful in these trying times. Please give this a listen. I promise you won't be disappointed.

https://samharris.org/podcasts/193-m...ion-emergency/

Be safe and smart.
Much love,
Darren

That link took me to a page that says I have to be a subscriber.

[Caliban]

Here's another way:

(Sir) Anthony Hopkins asked a Jesuit priest friend of his:

"What's the best short prayer you know?"

The priest answered, "F--k it."

;)

[Delight]

This was very soothing to me this pm.

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[Tomkoyote]

Dr. Brownstein: COVID-19 is Much Less Deadly than the Common Flu
https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/dr-brownstein-covid-19-is-much-less-deadly-than-the-common-flu/

[pyrangello]

It was Jan 21 when I posted the first message on the Wuhan outbreak. Since that time of blowing the trumpet in all directions not just here on avalon, I have also been spreading the word to friends and family thru various means. Including alerting customers daily in a business I own. It's been an exhausting challenge mostly dealing with people, friends , and family who live in their own bubble and recognize nothing else around them except their own world. Combating that intellectual ignorance culminated today as the state of Michigan just mandated self isolation for non essential citizens of the state and their occupations.

Coming home this evening it wasn't as much fear or panic but just total exhaustion and an end to a mission of attempting to alert as many of those that would listen.i almost feel as this chapter is closed now since the self isolation started at midnight that has just passed. I havnt been here on Avalon or anything else due to I just needed a break and time to rest my soul.

I,'ve always said life is like a pendulum, it swings hard to the left or the right but at the end of the day it always seems to find a way to come back to center only to start all over again. Dealing with fear,panic,anxiety,or anything out of the norm can be so taxing to an individual's spirit. Stepping back isn,t a crime,it's actually a needed tool to stay healthy and vibrant to assist others who are not as dynamic. I would submit to you many if not most of the Avalon family are in that dynamic category. Even sounding off here is a form of release and tool for regrouping to that healthy center again.

Remember fear and or panic doesnt really exist if you don't allow that to happen. And you are in charge of yourself and what you allow to enter. Glad to be here in the Avalon family.

[muxfolder]

Social media is now the worst and spreading panic like never before. I used to like to be there, where mainstream media was not present yet (I stopped watching tv 2004). But we're all gonna ****ing die then. Yeah. That's what they say. :) Well, at least that's true.

https://i.imgur.com/y2XoZup.png

[Ben]

You're not alone, brother. We will get through this and it will lead to something better.

I hope these will help anyone dealing with fear and anxiety. :heart:

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

~ Frank Herbert, Dune


Staying Conscious in the Face of Adversity | A Special Message From Eckhart Tolle

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Corona Lockdown! Can Anything Positive Come From This?! | Russell Brand

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Deep peace - Reassuring words

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Thanks Wind, I really resonate with John Butler. What a wonderfully wise and gentle soul.


I've just watched this one about coronavirus fear, and shared it to loads of my friends.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVhQpOx_x0Y

[pueblo]

How to deal with fear, imho...

To completely remove ALL fear first look at what is causing the fear/s, acknowledge them, then let the thoughts of fear gently go and focus on LOVE; practise some love, give/receive some love, try being love...

Love removes all the nutrients that fear needs to survive and grow.

Oh and turn off the TV/PC too!

[JohanB]

Almost all of us have our ways and develop techniques as we age. For what it's worth :dancing:

Mine is to listen to music that "gells" with me or read some inspirational writings like:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata

Desiderata
Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time. Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.[3]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2QXPtzUYE

[muxfolder]

It's been 2 months already and I still have sore throat. I even got tested for corona and the test came back negative. Basically I'm fine, but I should be home anyway. **** this ****.

[greybeard]

Hi
Im getting paranoid well not really.
It just may be that the high speed internet hub (Wi Fi Network) I have is not good for health.
Ive ordered Ethernet cable to use instead, it just plugs into the telephone socket and PC or laptop.
Every home uses the hub for internet and providers Talktalk say dont switch it off or it will slow down -- oh yeah!!!--
The energy in the kitchen seems better than the energy in the living room.
Just covering all bases

Any thoughts on this welcome.

Chris

[norman]

Chris, if you live on your own with one PC ( or at least only one at a time ), there is no need for wifi at all.


You're doing the right thing.


Report back in a few months after you've turned off that radio fly zapper.


edit:


but, how are you going to find a router that doesn't have wifi permanently on when it's powered up? I can't find the old type any more.

[greybeard]

Chris, if you live on your own with one PC ( or at least only one at a time ), there is no need for wifi at all.


You're doing the right thing.


Report back in a few months after you've turned off that radio fly zapper.


edit:


but, how are you going to find a router that doesn't have wifi permanently on when it's powered up? I can't find the old type any more.


Thanks Norman
Now here is the thing == my new laptop has no ethernet plug input -- very strange
I have my PC conected to the Talktalk modem Ethernet out put it will not allow conection unless switched on PC says no cable.
I got a new modem about six month ago and since then been more forgetful and over tired --coincidence?

Iv tried directly connecting PC bypassing modem says no cable.
It would seem fast broad band needs the the new fibre modem which is twice the size of the old one and takes longer to warm up.
I wish I had kept the old modem. That would probably not work now as the connection was maid at the main British Telecom.

Very suspicious.

Any suggestions?

[AutumnW]

Norman, Greybeard,

These "suggestions" are not helpful to tame anxiety and fear. They feed it. I suggest people who "just know" what is really going on, take a break, quit over-thinking and yield to the mystery of life.

The alternative media is creating totally unnecessary and terrifying scenarios that are far worse than anything the mainstream media is coming up with.

Be cautious, not fearful and lean into uncertainty.

[AutumnW]

It's been 2 months already and I still have sore throat. I even got tested for corona and the test came back negative. Basically I'm fine, but I should be home anyway. **** this ****.

Mux, have you been swabbed for bacterial infection. They can persist for a long long time. I hope you are feeling better emotionally. Just know you can always come here and pour your heart out. You will be understood and many Avalonians will be happy to help you.

[muxfolder]

It's been 2 months already and I still have sore throat. I even got tested for corona and the test came back negative. Basically I'm fine, but I should be home anyway. **** this ****.

Mux, have you been swabbed for bacterial infection. They can persist for a long long time. I hope you are feeling better emotionally. Just know you can always come here and pour your heart out. You will be understood and many Avalonians will be happy to help you.

Most likely this is some sort of bacterial infection. I did see a nurse (yep, not even a doctor) and she did all the tests and came to conclusion I should be just fine. It's just very annoying to feel a bit ****ty all the time for more than 2 months, that's all. At least it's starting to get warmer here in Finland. It's been very cold spring so far, only couple of nice warm days. But this week's been nice and warm so I've been taking some longer walks and it seems to work nicely.

[Sue (Ayt)]

Bumping this thread for October.

As the heat turns up a notch, it might help to re-mind ourselves more often than ever to stay in the calm eye of the storm.
:flower:

The Desiderata was mentioned by Johan earlier in the thread, but I do love it so. So here it is again.


Desiderata

GO PLACIDLY amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

By Max Ehrmann © 1927

[Anka]

Fear seems like a kind of recapitulation of the world's histories, but we are all in a world where we have to get over any obstacle.

If we can manage to remember, since we were children, what was the first and first fear that each of us had? It is very possible that we forgot it, although at that time in childhood, as a feeling, it is possible that we felt it very strongly almost fundamentally without knowing it. But it's over, isn't it?:flower:

For example, just as an example or exercise of sincerity: at this moment when we read this do we feel fear? Some would say it is ridiculous, some would say that fear of ridicule is still an almost honorable form of pride.
The recurring theme of fear accompanies the life of every human being and the history of the species; current fears and those that have accompanied human instinct throughout history have played also a role in preserving life as long as it was necessary for normal evolution.

A trail of risk is the fear of the end of the world, against the background of growing nervousness and against the background of misfortunes such as wars and invasions and terrible plague epidemics that have invaded Europe (I speak only from what I know), and the idea of ​​the end (of) has been capitalized here, at the level of near obsession for a while.
Always, and then, at that time, the move to stage an apocalypse before every attempt at survival was at hand. These were extreme but visible times.

What is beautiful is when people see the crisis, but do not say that it is imminent, that makes them survive.

We went through it together as a species, through so many ... but the fact that the hurricane of fear is moved from the natural perimeter to the human field and is produced from within the human species just for humans, makes it somehow more "credible" ... that may, it makes us think "what the fear factor" looks like...:) I have nothing to say about this, except that the last time I checked, all humans had 10 fingers on both hands, so there was no difference between us, inside the same human species.We must have pure courage, without illusion.

I think there is a serious order of involution that it is not possible not to take seriously.
I believe that we must be careful and generous with our lives and those of those around us, I believe that before any fear, we are almost obliged to offer first of all unconditional love.

I have to say that people are more and more agitated and nervous, but if we take three steps back and have the patience to see that knowledge is partly equivalent to reality, almost largely used to do harm then I would say we have , worldwide, an extremely high inflation of leaders of bad influence but also poorly prepared for their own plan.

In such a dynamic world with so many good and less good possibilities, however, a kind of "lethargy" or inaction also indulges in the feeling of fear that seems to be at hand.
The "pregnancy" imbued with today's fear, however, is interpreted on so many levels and variants that in such an present era, we can do a real slalom among them, if we want.

Today there are tons of fears, erupting volcanoes, crashing planes, millennial lies, natural disasters, ecological and demographic disasters, Iranian uranium, incurable flu and disease, agencies with interests that come out every day like mushrooms in the forest after it rains, even entertainment as a form of fear is promoted in movies at least.

But all this ratting used so visibly, should make us aware and see the mechanisms of fear used on us and received by us without knowing sometimes, and sometimes seen from a distance.
In the age of all exposed information and all hidden information, everything is in the sphere of the possible, even fear, but we must see that in the production of fears even imagination plays a role, too important, this is one of the mechanisms that must be adjusted in our favor and to help those around us, but balanced enough to understand the facts as such.

I believe that there is a segment of the world in which the panic of higher intelligence is coupled with a moral vice, but lacking a well-executed concrete plan.

Totally lacking in ignorance and involved for any good, well done, I can say that the source of fear is immanent but in permanent transcendence with our vision for its healing.

Apparently, globally, there can be no guarantee that we can govern our own choices, but we do it every second now, so that means we are in control for ourselves. It is a kind of individual but partially total management involved for the good of all mankind.

A friend said to another friend last week: Why are you afraid to take the plane if you smoke 50 cigarettes a day? It is counterproductive to be terrified of terrorism every day and not be afraid of falling off a bicycle.

In fact, it is a personal equation of life, for me fear is only a form of indifference for myself, almost hostile, which I will not be able to afford, given my life experience, which no fear dare challenge it.

[muxfolder]

Bumping this thread for October.

As the heat turns up a notch, it might help to re-mind ourselves more often than ever to stay in the calm eye of the storm.
:flower:

Absolutely, please just spill your beans here, whoever you are or wherever you are and everyone is free to share their stories. I'm speaking to all of you here who are in need to say something at all, if it makes you feel better. :clapping: That's why I made this thread in the first place. Because I was in a hard situation and I thought I had that stupid covid myself. I actually might have it, but yeah, still can't be sure because I was tested like 3 weeks after when it was at it's worse.

Anyway, I opened this thread just to speak with someone or somebody. And at least some of you responded, and it really helped me. :) So please, keep on telling your stories here. Maybe even I can help someone.

[Bill Ryan]

Bumping this thread for October.

As the heat turns up a notch, it might help to re-mind ourselves more often than ever to stay in the calm eye of the storm.
:flower:

Absolutely, please just spill your beans here, whoever you are or wherever you are and everyone is free to share their stories. I'm speaking to all of you here who are in need to say something at all, if it makes you feel better. :clapping: That's why I made this thread in the first place. Because I was in a hard situation and I thought I had that stupid covid myself. I actually might have it, but yeah, still can't be sure because I was tested like 3 weeks after when it was at it's worse.

Anyway, I opened this thread just to speak with someone or somebody. And at least some of you responded, and it really helped me. :) So please, keep on telling your stories here.Hey, thanks. :sun:

What I never posted here (but should have!) was that anxiety is the product of a problem + not feeling able to do anything about it.

So if one can start to take some action, of any kind, then the anxiety will ALWAYS dissipate a little.

For example, there may be justifiable anxiety about health, and/or what might happen if supply chains really do start to break. There are lots of easy things one can actually do to reassure oneself that one's taking positive steps. Then one really does sleep a little better.

Re health, a handful of easily-obtainable supplements may really help protect against the virus — which is a real thing. If you're concerned, D3 + Zinc + Quercetin + Vit C + Oregano oil will all help boost the immune system (against anything at all!).

Re prepping, if you just spend a few $$ on rice, oats, flour, beans, oil, butter, salt, sugar, dried milk, tea/coffee, you may be surprised how little it costs to be able to stay alive and well for 6-12 months in a crazy-extreme situation. (Even if you get very bored with your menu! :) )

You may never use it — except later, because it's all longlife and will definitely be eaten anyway — but it may simply help you feel better if you've got it all there in your pantry.

:flower:

[Savannah]

I shared on another thread my dream in which I was in a ceremony in which I'm standing with my arms crossed over my chest holding wild flowers. There is a strong large man with his arms creating a circle around me. There are people watching wondering if I can succeed. Then freezing cold water starts pouring over my head and I start deflecting it with energy and never feel it. Those around me and I begin to realize I succeeded , I passed.

So a few weeks ago I kept feeling extreme anxiety but I actually was not anxious over what was going on. I just broke into tears and felt empathy for the world, that "they were in such pain" and I couldn't stand it. I remembered the dream and felt I had to deflect the collective human pain or it was going to tear me up. I just stayed with the dream centered myself and I felt the most profound peace. Afterward I laughed and couldn't actually believe what just happened. I don't consider myself psychic but recently I released I am (like all of us are). I'm a psychologist and usually blow away most of my patients with my quick insight into them and that has nothing to to with text books. I also don't think I understood what an empath really was until recently and that I may have some of that going on. I now have to make a conscious effort to release the "worlds" emotions from myslef or I get really stressed out. However if the anxiety is related to something I can identify, like my house burning down from CA wild fires, I cant effect that as much. Only when I cant really identify why I'm anxious I now realize I'm picking it up from those around me and I focus on the dream and its crazy, it just dissipates. So all our anxiety may not be just ours right now.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

To those on any spiritual path, it is necessary to face a great challenge in order to "level up", so to speak..
To keep yourself vibrationally balanced and aligned takes a great deal of awareness at this time. Many would manipulate your reality using your fear and feed energetically off your anxiety - so don't let them! Your attention on nearly any media source is a product that is being harvested and sold, so limit your time and exposure. The greater the challenge the greater the potential for growth and expansion. I have found focusing on kindness and gratitude - to the grocery clerk, the delivery driver, the lady walking her dog waiting to cross the street - during every human interaction (no matter how fleeting or minor) provides a great deal of relief.

[araucaria]

Anxiety is based on feeling powerless possibly derived from picking up other people’s fear. When many on the planet are feeling fear, then others who aren’t may be picking up on the fear and feeling powerless because it is not their own; their anxiety will be channelled back into increasing the overall fear. It helps to understand this process in order to avoid becoming a part of it. It is just a process based on natural instinct and does not require the existence of satanic nihilists conspiring to achieve a goal; on the contrary it is fuelled by conspiracy theory insofar as this is just another name for fear.

Since the human population has grown more than three times over within living memory, then any such collective emotion is going to have unprecedented consequences. An alternative way of looking at what is going on is karma, a notion that seems to have been invented by economists: karma is debt to be paid off by suffering for having oneself caused suffering. But let’s look at how this works out. It is an endless circular process for just as long as the aim remains to balance the books: income matches expenditures. Paying off karma presupposes someone else creating more for themselves, i.e. by caused the necessary suffering.

Billion upon billion of suffering humans suggests that a huge amount of karmic debt is being paid off right now. In other words, the collective karmic balance should at some point go into the black, with positive karma in the bank. However, when our thinking is governed by economists, we decide that in order to balance the books an equivalent negative amount is being created by a tiny elite. Yet, on the basis of this same thinking, with mounting debt, there comes a point when bankruptcy is declared, i.e. when a debtor can no longer pay their debts, and the creditors can no longer collect their receivables. This is where redemption, one of those economic terms that has spilled over into religion, comes into play, moving into entirely new territory, a ‘reset’ if you will. The entire karmic accountancy system breaks down, which is both the ‘miracle’ some are learning to expect and the basis of fresh fear, because the majority of creditors are not quite ready to write off what is owed them. Of course in all the above, the economic situation is not an analogy for something happening at a deeper level, it is actually the same process at this shallower level. The problem is one of disgruntled creditors when they realize that there is no way they can be recompensed with funny money created out of nothing: that whole system has to collapse first; but then, how are we going to pay the bills? The ‘miracle’ will happen when enough people overcome the anxiety caused by feeling powerless on that ‘account’. The control system spins out of control.

I stopped having money problems the day I stopped worrying about money problems.

For my earlier thoughts on karma see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?90546-If-karma-exists-why-does-so-much-evil-in-the-world-go-unchecked&p=1066979&viewfull=1#post1066979).