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waves
2nd April 2020, 23:26
This thread is meant to share resources, information and connections about countries that are fiercely trying to stay independent from the NWO agenda being bulldozed into many countries across the the world in 2020.
Today, supposedly, '50%' of the world is on lockdown and I am have a very hard time in google finding out who are the other 50% are who are not complying?
This thread is intended to be an ongoing resource for ideas of where to escape to when the window of opportunity opens to escape the social distancing tyranny, forced vaccinations, and other draconian human rights violations and horrors suddenly being imposed on whole societies virtually overnight.
So far, I could only find one report of one country not in lockdown who are still quite healthily interacting freely and not following NWO orders to lockdown, Sweden.
Thank you in advance for using this thread for ongoing and updated contributions to locations where human freedoms are being fiercely defended.
https://i.postimg.cc/Z5ZY0XWT/sweden-4-1.jpg (https://www.france24.com/en/20200401-sweden-europe-s-lockdown-exception)
Bill Ryan
2nd April 2020, 23:29
Bhutan. The last unspoiled mountain kingdom, where the King is on record as having said in a speech that the gross national happiness is more important than the gross national product.
It's close to being a real Shangri-La. If anyone here has never heard about it, maybe it's best to just keep it that way. :)
DeDukshyn
2nd April 2020, 23:35
Well ... some models are showing that 60-80% of the world's population might get this. My province (Alberta) took extreme measures after the very first case of transmission within Alberta. They're not working. Our new case rate is growing very quickly.
If 60 - 80% of the world population gets it, that may be a result of 20-40% of the population having some natural immunity, which seems reasonable.
I did humour the thought of maybe it would be best to just let this run as fast as it can, and then be done with it. I don't know that that would be any better, but it seems to me that all the strict laws are just delaying the inevitable while the economies completely tank.
I'd be interested in comparing Sweden's numbers to other countries in a few months.
waves
2nd April 2020, 23:42
Thank you very much Bill, no thank you very much Dedukshyn.
Please do not make this a thread about how wrong anyone standing against the NWO agenda is, that's just more imposing your spit on those that disagree with you. There are at least 20 other threads to pontificate in.
Please RESPECT THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD and let the non compliant independent thinkers and rebels to this NWO agenda share without more attacks from NWO enablers.
note: I've apologized privately to Dedukshyn for the part of my reply that was a very rude overreaction to his belief in what I feel are false statistics and therefore helping the promoters of this deadly agenda, but that issue wasn't even established yet in this thread.
AutumnW
3rd April 2020, 00:30
Well ... some models are showing that 60-80% of the world's population might get this. My province (Alberta) took extreme measures after the very first case of transmission within Alberta. They're not working. Our new case rate is growing very quickly.
If 60 - 80% of the world population gets it, that may be a result of 20-40% of the population having some natural immunity, which seems reasonable.
I did humour the thought of maybe it would be best to just let this run as fast as it can, and then be done with it. I don't know that that would be any better, but it seems to me that all the strict laws are just delaying the inevitable while the economies completely tank.
I'd be interested in comparing Sweden's numbers to other countries in a few months.
Whatever they are doing doesn't seem to be working for them. Proves that no matter how well intended, those countries who refuse to learn from examples, like Italy and Spain have provided will suffer. I believe their numbers are above Canada's now and we were slow to react.
Thanks for the thread, Waves. It is helpful in dispelling myths around the topic of contagion.
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Thank you very much Bill, no thank you very much Dedukshyn.
Please do not make this a thread about how wrong anyone standing against the NWO agenda is, that's just more imposing your spit on those that disagree with you. There are at least 20 other threads to pontificate in.
Please RESPECT THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD and let the non compliant independent thinkers and rebels to this NWO agenda share without more attacks from NWO enablers.
Its not either/or. Most don't approve of the New World agenda. That disapproval manifests in myriad ways.
fractal being
3rd April 2020, 01:15
Hi there Waves,
Thanks for the thread. I also took an interest on observing how this situation is developing in different countries and I agree with you that reaching that information is not an easy task. The way I went around it was by googling the name of different countries and news in English. For most developed countries you'll find a site that gives you a glimpse on what is going on in the respective countries Unfortunately most countries that are under the WHO umbrella, once the situation becomes dire with new cases they can't but just follow the WHO guidelines which right now focuses heavily on imposition of lock-downs, mainly because their health systems are (by design?) unprepared for treatment of their citizens en mass. As far as I can understand Sweden takes the confident stance that their health system can handle it, but the social pressure to take action is mounting so I guess soon enough they'll follow in line exactly as the UK did.
To me it sounds rather simplistic to assume that the 50% that are not in lock-down are not following the NWO agenda since that 50% consists of countries that, due to certain climate conditions or geopolitical characteristics, are not affected seriously from the disease so far like most of Africa, countries in South America the Caribbean etc. Furthermore in a certain country it is possible that not all provinces are in lock-down like Russia where only the westernmost part of the country is affected and China (the most populous nation) where only 2 provinces were put on lock-down.
The only major country that went consciously against the NWO guidelines that I know is Brazil, which initially did, but It's leader Bolsonaro recently lifted the measurement, but if I had to express my personal opinion about him this thread would get derailed and I wouldn't want that :o But even there that role is being taken by the crime gangs which impose nightime curfews in the poorest areas.
take care,
Metaphor
3rd April 2020, 02:36
Thank you for an interesting thread. Interesting also because the video is filmed partially where i live in Stockholm. I can therefore confirm its validity, and also the statements i feel reflect some of the swedes but not all.
I have been thinking a lot lately that the outbreak never really takes off here, even if it could be the calm before the storm. One thing is sure the economy is having a hard time.
What I would like to add to this is that while it may seem that Sweden resists some NWO order of total lockdown, please remember that this country has been the NWO-test ground for decades so there could be some other meaning to why this is.
Mark Tuahmen
3rd April 2020, 03:06
Yes here in Sweden there is more freedom but some have talked about different types of lockdown. In more remote region sit is very much life as usual for many of our peoples. although some things are open, many people are still choosing to stay away. I am isolating after a recent trip abroad to be sure no one get sick, although I am well. Bhutan also has always a strict policy of foreigners always being invited by people with higher authority. So may remain safe, until infection arrives and then they may experience troubles. Unless CIA operatives there already. Maybe cause trouble at some point politically.
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Greenland maybe also make independent choices.
ralfy
3rd April 2020, 04:10
Most countries are tied to each other because of globalization, which allows for goods and services such as using computers to access this forum.
Lockdowns and other effects of pandemics, not to mention those of peak oil and global warming, break that globalization because not only human movement but even supply chains are disrupted.
That means only a fraction of people worldwide are partly free from or wholly independent of globalization.
waves
3rd April 2020, 07:48
Welcome and thank you very much fractal being, Metaphor, Mark Tuahmen and ralfy. I so appreciate your on-topic posts and interesting observations.
fractal: Yes, I was wondering about Africa and large open rural areas of big countries. It implies that an enforceable lockdown is only possible where people will do it to themselves out of fear and social pressure. The question is, will they remain unscathed and left alone?
Metaphor and Mark in Sweden: Are your news outlets flooding you relentlessly with fear statistics about the virus, do you feel you're being conditioned to expect it soon?
I was only vaguely aware of Sweden as an NWO test ground, I forget how. Very interesting that Sweden now also being 'treated' differently. Thank you.
ralfy: good point about who's freer from the globalization supply chains and who is not. I fear that the disconnected, rural, independent areas will suffer different destabilization warfare techniques, especially weather destruction techniques like has really escalated the last two years.
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I'd like this thread to also include reports of states that are also remaining independent in ways, so I can add this.
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State statistics April 2, quoted from USA Today:
5 states - Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska and Arkansas as yet have no state-wide orders.
7 states - Wyoming, Utah, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Alabama and South Carolina have at least one city with shelter-in-place rules.
38 states have full lock-down orders from the top.
In the northwestern corner of Alabama near the Tennessee border, Andrew Sorrell, a Republican State representative of Muscle Shoals and the co-owner of Gold, Guns and Guitars says his two pawn shops are doing a huge business in gun sales and the streets of Florence are shockingly busy. He attributes that to a mix of optimism and fierce individualism.
“I think most people expect this will blow over, although when it does it will have implications we don’t understand yet,” says Sorrell, a Republican state representative out “When will we shake hands again?”
Sorrell says that despite having no state-wide order to stay home, many of his constituents are doing just that, especially the elderly. His own parents declined to invite his in-laws over to live-stream a church service the other day. But others, he says, claim the dangers are being hyped by the media. He himself isn’t for a state-wide mandate but rather more personal responsibility.
“I have liberty concerns with a shelter in place order,” Sorrell says. “People just need to be more responsible for themselves with what they’re doing, where they’re going.”
In the arid, rock- and mountain-studded state of Utah, which has only 37 people per square mile, the state’s patchwork array of orders is the result of a range of factors, including a Western rugged individualist mentality and many isolated rural counties, residents say. Instead of issuing a state-wide COVID-19 order to shelter in place, Utah Gov. Gary Herbert last week urged citizens to “Stay Safe, Stay Home,” and offered guidance on closing public facilities and restricting food service businesses to take-out only.
So far, of the 13 state health departments that oversee Utah’s 29 counties, only three have urged their counties to go beyond the governor’s broad directives, says Cameron Diehl, executive director of the Utah League of Cities and Towns, which represents 249 Utah cities.
“Everyone sees what’s happening out there in the world, but how you respond really depends on where you live,” says Diehl, noting the inherent differences between Utah tourist meccas such as the Summit County ski areas and Moab mountain biking region, and far more sparsely inhabited parts of the state. "Everyone seems to take a look at their own situation when it comes to health care, and makes a decision."
Feritciva
3rd April 2020, 08:58
This is a very good thread - i also am very curious about this too. But it's not easy to have this kind of information here on PA as most of the members see the world only as USA/UK.
This is not criticizing or some passive aggresive comment :Angel: , as Bruce Hornsby put it "that's just the way it is".
So i would like to hear more about non-US members about their countries/society's situation now. For example in Istanbul there's no curfew or smth like that but most poeple stay inside, all business has stopped and according to municipality statistics the use of public transport decreased as %80-85. I know most of European countries are like that. But we have very bad weather for some time here in Istanbul.. I don't know what kind of response would a 17,5 million giant city produce if the weather gets fine and spring shows itself?
shaberon
3rd April 2020, 09:58
Belarus has not stopped athletics, and is this a single issue of order giving? If Iran took measures, are they complying in a plot? "Agenda" is plural; one issue is "agendum". Not sure if I grasp the topic here.
astridmari
3rd April 2020, 10:51
Well, I wish we were that lucky. In Sweden we have a company Ericsson, it controls the nervous system (telecom infrastructure) in over 180 countries. There is one family Wallenberg controlling that company through another company called Investor.
I wonder what kind of information they have about other countries? Which they can use, sell and so on? Also the banks must use that infrastructure to transfer the money they create. So in other words they can listen in on every transaction if they want to.
Our polititians love the Bilderbergers, WHO, UN and spend a lot of money on different projects outside of Sweden. Here at home old people cannot afford the rent and have to live out on the streets collecting bottles and empty cans to afford food.
Our swedish banks are in also in trouble, washing money for crooks. But since we have Coronacrisis now hearings are postponed.
Our governement don´t care for the swedish people, they rather import people from other countries - such as Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Somalia. Mostly young men they call childrenrefugees. People who does not care about our culture living on social welfare.
You can definitely take Sweden off this list. Sweden in 1970´s was a good place. But now not so much. We are on a road to hell.
https://www.ericsson.com/en/5g/5g-networks/5g-contracts
Metaphor
3rd April 2020, 12:18
@waves
Yes thers a kind of fearmongering but not as brutal as some american newschannels. I guess state sponsored media dont wanna bite the hand that feeds. We could be in a full blown epidemic soon or not, but the government keeps insisting we will make it through. On the other hand the prime minister made a speach that dark times are upon us and that we should brace for impact, kind of.
@astridmari
I hear you and share your view partially. Remember though that we need to keep cool and bide our time. After peak darkness the day will come. Hope must be the last to leave us.
But, yes, times are strange here in the country of NWO- lab. Also remember the waves break on the north. Our responses count.
Kamikaze
3rd April 2020, 14:07
delete it all.
Ernie Nemeth
3rd April 2020, 15:34
Hey Duk,
If we let the entire world catch this flu then according to the death rate, 350 million people would die! Best to contain it as much as possible.
DeDukshyn
3rd April 2020, 15:51
Hey Duk,
If we let the entire world catch this flu then according to the death rate, 350 million people would die! Best to contain it as much as possible.
My question was more ... can this actually be properly contained? ... maybe millions will die anyway ... I don't want people to die, but if global economies tanks, or already poor countries become even more poor, then people may die for other reasons, due to the attempt to contain. It was just a thought.
Keep in mind, the longer this is drawn out, the more of a deathgrip the international banks will have over almost every country in the world.
AutumnW
3rd April 2020, 22:17
Hey Duk,
If we let the entire world catch this flu then according to the death rate, 350 million people would die! Best to contain it as much as possible.
My question was more ... can this actually be properly contained? ... maybe millions will die anyway ... I don't want people to die, but if global economies tanks, or already poor countries become even more poor, then people may die for other reasons, due to the attempt to contain. It was just a thought.
Keep in mind, the longer this is drawn out, the more of a deathgrip the international banks will have over almost every country in the world.
Dedukshyn,
Agree with you. Governments are predicting most of us will get it and the containment is mainly to slow down the infection rate so hospitals aren't overwhelmed. This gives them time to play catch up in terms of getting all the masks and gear everyone needs.
By June or July, things will return to somewhat normal. People will be encouraged to go back to work. The only enforceable government mandate will be everyone must be masked in public.
Yes, if the economy is disabled for longer the 'cure' will be worse than the disease!
Michi
3rd April 2020, 22:36
:focus: :focus: :focus:
waves
4th April 2020, 02:12
:focus: :focus: :focus:
THANK YOU.
Bill has always run this forum with a blind eye to the highly repetitive same name off-topic narcissists and their shallow, intrusive overposting in nearly every thread like bored and childish egos looking to push buttons for attention.
As I already stated quickly here, DO NOT ENGAGE.... these thread energy parasites certainly deserve no respect back for displaying such a lack of respect for the thread topic or us.
Those of us in solidarity have important work to do.
I appreciate your integrity very much. Thank you for standing up.
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ralfy
4th April 2020, 02:16
A country or state is independent only if it it is a pre-industrial stage, which means it doesn't rely on resources from other places to support industrial civilization. Given that, there is no country or state that is independent. That also means there are groups that are independent, but they live in forests or jungles and have less expectancy rates of around 30 years.
waves
4th April 2020, 02:24
A country or state is independent only if it it is a pre-industrial stage, which means it doesn't rely on resources from other places to support industrial civilization. Given that, there is no country or state that is independent. That also means there are groups that are independent, but they live in forests or jungles and have less expectancy rates of around 30 years.
OK, yes I didn't really think of it that way and would be glad to change the title of the thread to be more accurate. I know you understand what this thread is meant to keep track of - countries/states managing to successfully stay sovereign or more sovereign (is that a better word?) and not agreeing to betray their citizens and self destruct their country like the others are. I'm open to your suggestion of how to change the wording of the thread title.
AutumnW
4th April 2020, 04:39
A country or state is independent only if it it is a pre-industrial stage, which means it doesn't rely on resources from other places to support industrial civilization. Given that, there is no country or state that is independent. That also means there are groups that are independent, but they live in forests or jungles and have less expectancy rates of around 30 years.
Good point. We are all pretty interdependant. Those who complain the loudest should be boycotting foreign products, like personal technology, when they can.
AutumnW
4th April 2020, 04:45
Well, I wish we were that lucky. In Sweden we have a company Ericsson, it controls the nervous system (telecom infrastructure) in over 180 countries. There is one family Wallenberg controlling that company through another company called Investor.
I wonder what kind of information they have about other countries? Which they can use, sell and so on? Also the banks must use that infrastructure to transfer the money they create. So in other words they can listen in on every transaction if they want to.
Our polititians love the Bilderbergers, WHO, UN and spend a lot of money on different projects outside of Sweden. Here at home old people cannot afford the rent and have to live out on the streets collecting bottles and empty cans to afford food.
Our swedish banks are in also in trouble, washing money for crooks. But since we have Coronacrisis now hearings are postponed.
Our governement don´t care for the swedish people, they rather import people from other countries - such as Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Somalia. Mostly young men they call childrenrefugees. People who does not care about our culture living on social welfare.
You can definitely take Sweden off this list. Sweden in 1970´s was a good place. But now not so much. We are on a road to hell.
Why do you think this happened to Sweden? My extended family on my father's side live there and so I am particularly curious. Is it because they are following a more ruthless capitalist model? And if so, because they felt they had to for some reason? Excessive debt, etc..?
waves
4th April 2020, 06:23
I'm still having a very difficult time getting any reliable information out of google of what countries are not making their citizens overreact so self destructively and I really hate repeating anything unverifiable, so with great qualification as 'just a report for curiosity sake', I found a Mar. 31 article in the UKMail that changes the OP to that 1/3 not not 50% of the world is on lockdown and said this with a list:
"The following countries have a full or partial lockdown in place:"
Argentina
Australia
Belguim
China
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
El Salvador
France
Germany
India
Israel
Italy
Jordan
Kenya
Kuwait
Malaysia
Morocco
New Zealand
Norway
Poland
Republic of Ireland
Russia
Saudi Arabia
South Africa
Spain
UK
What I find interesting however, is numerous sources reporting that China is imposing regulations on so few places, despite being the most populated country in the world. The different articles say it similar to this:
"...Measures vary from country to country, for example China only implemented lockdowns in some of its cities, whereas Italy has forced its population to stay within the home indefinitely...."
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T Smith
4th April 2020, 07:58
Those who believe it is possible to counter or contain or manage a global pandemic via decrees of governance without recognizing themselves as NWO enablers are in a state of cognitive dissonance, including those who would never openly advocate for NWO.
Here is the problem: it is impossible to advocate for a governed response to pandemic, no matter how well-intended, without supporting the NWO (either wittingly or unwittingly).
So, in contrast to a comment made above, it is an either/or situation, by definition, as the only way to contain a global pandemic is to allow for a draconian and authoritative NWO system of governance that strictly governs and restricts the movements of people. There is no other way. Half-measures and constitutional government will fail to restrict the movements of people, and therefore fail to stop the spread of the virus and quell the panic and fear.
Attempting to address this dilemma, the main COVID-19 thread soon devolved into exercises of working through episodes of cognitive dissonance. This prompted the mods to split the discussion into its rightful components, as certain concepts cannot co-exist in productive discourse. Members were having difficulty embracing the non-compatible idea of draconian responses of authority (with little to no end in sight) in the name of containing the pandemic while at the same time disavowing the NWO agenda. As uncomfortable as this is given the dire global crisis at hand, these are contradictory beliefs...
A few more definitions may be helpful:
Pandemic = global outbreak
Epidemic = local outbreak
Globalization = governance and oversight of the global flow of supply chains and commerce, e.g. trade agreements and international rules and laws agreed upon between sovereign states
NWO = authoritarian governance of people, restrictions of movements, eradication of local jurisdiction and sovereign states, including any declaration of inalienable rights. (This concept is much different from globalization).
All said, and back to topic, if this is a naturally occurring pandemic (which seems unlikely), and if this pandemic is more real than promulgated, there may be pockets of resistance that weather the storm. However, it seems to me the entire world is under attack, even those countries resisting the march. Despite projections and data coming out of China, Italy, Spain, USA, etc., we really have no way of knowing what the real death rate is or how devastating the COVID-19 event will have on the national health systems of respective resisting countries until the pandemic subsides and until all facts are known. But if we an can assume the COVID-19 pandemic is more real than promulgated, it will likely be twice as devastating to the national health systems of countries that resist the NWO and therefore cut themselves off from needed global supply chains, e.g. medical equipment, food supplies, etc. That is, resisting countries will need to close and lock down their boarders and disavow not only the encroaching NWO (which would be a powerful predator and enemy) but also the infrastructure of globalization itself, so to contain the pandemic outside their boarders. This may present extreme challenges and duress and unforeseen pressures on any/all governments that elect to resist the NWO. These will also be very unstable regimes, especially if they are non-auhtoritarain regimes.
If the pandemic is more promulgated than real, the actions of these resisting countries will readily and quickly expose the psyop, as there will be no significant death rates in excess of normal illness nor little-to-no devastating effects on the national health system. These countries, in effect, will assume "whistleblower" status to the psyop and will likely be targets of NWO occupation and takeover, either by aggressive conventional or stealth warfare.
If the pandemic is the result of a bioweapon (which seems most likely to me) the resisting countries will likely be unable to maintain a successful resistance, as the enemy need only aggressively deploy the weapon inside their borders, as in Wuhan, to trigger the sovereign governments to comply with the program. This would be almost impossible to avoid, even given an airtight lockdown. (Bigger, more powerful states, like Russia, might survive, which will lead to showdown and war, but the most likely scenario is non-authoritarian states will fall without the need to deploy any other weapon).
None of these scenarios have good outcomes; the only solution I see is to resist the march of the NWO now, at any and all costs.
Perhaps we could explore how this might be done while dealing with an attack that has not only scared the masses to a state of utter compliance, but which is also killing people and potentially overwhelming the NHS. These are two very concrete problems, regardless of the degree of severity.
waves
4th April 2020, 08:33
I read your well thought out post carefully, I think it's a very accurate summary, there's nearly nothing to add in terms of it being a great snapshot of right now and nothing to do but watch.
Not sure if you meant this, but what really jumped out at me and went 'ding ding ding' in my gut that I hadn't considered and makes so much sense.....
"....as the enemy need only aggressively deploy the weapon inside their borders, as in Wuhan, to trigger the sovereign governments to comply with the program..."
It makes sense that the globalists deliberately chose to start the virus in Wuhan for all the obvious political bullying implications/manipulations.... but it would also explain why China is being the least over reactive to something being sold as so contagious everywhere else in the world like I noted seemed strange in my previous post.
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T Smith
4th April 2020, 14:35
Not sure if you meant this, but what really jumped out at me and went 'ding ding ding' in my gut that I hadn't considered and makes so much sense.....
"....as the enemy need only aggressively deploy the weapon inside their borders, as in Wuhan, to trigger the sovereign governments to comply with the program..."
I've been watching closely how governments respond, e.g. Sweden, USA, UK, etc. Studying the erratic policies of the ladder two countries over time, it would seem something else is going on behind the curtain. For example, both Trump and Johnson are populous leaders; complying with the NWO program would be extremely unpopular with their respective constituencies and counter their countries "at-present" anti-globalist platforms. As one would expect, both Trump and Johnson initially resisted and were late on board to comply with the program.
In other words, at the outset their policies and responses were consistent with their politics; at some point, however, Trump suddenly flipped a switch and within days Johnson followed suit. The UK executed a sudden turn about from a policy of "we're going to be precautionary and informative but allow for herd immunity to take hold" to "draconian lockdown".
What changed overnight? Better intel? Really? And is Sweden and other countries next?
The common explanation of the abrupt policy changes in USA and UK is reporting from the Imperial College globalist organization whose ever-grim conclusions forced both Trump and Johnson (among others governments) to wake up and smell the coffee; an even more common, but inaccurate understanding (imv), tags their respective inaction to comply with the NWO rollout on incompetence and poor leadership. However, both explanations are watered down and unconvincing; it hardly convinces me the Imperial Collage, without official collaboration, dictated the policy of the two countries with the most advanced and sophisticated intelligence networks in the world, i.e., to suddenly switch gears and comply with a blatant NWO rollout.
What's more convincing to me is factions of the NWO agenda released a devastating bioweapon in Wuhan and perhaps in Italy, with mutating and weaker strains spilling over to Europe and the west coast of USA, the Hiroshima, so to speak, which compelled Trump to restrict travel from China early on and adopt responses nonetheless antithetical to the NWO rollout, until Nagasaki is dropped (or threatened) in NYC, at which point we see a capitulation in the USA, likely with a message to Johnson, London is next... your current policies will not survive the "potent strain" we can and will deploy, but UK can still avoid the worst of it. Comply.
Erratic responses from the USA and UK signal to me we are dealing with a bioweapon attack and are in the middle of a war the public doesn't fully understand.
I'm not saying the war is over or the NWO rollout is inevitable, but at some point we the people are going to need to resist and start demanding our governments stop complying--in other words there may be no place to run; we need to look for alternative solutions.
This may be extremely difficult if we are fighting an enemy with a very effective bioweapon.
T Smith
4th April 2020, 15:03
Our polititians love the Bilderbergers, WHO, UN and spend a lot of money on different projects outside of Sweden. Here at home old people cannot afford the rent and have to live out on the streets collecting bottles and empty cans to afford food...
Our governement don´t care for the swedish people, they rather import people from other countries - such as Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Somalia. Mostly young men they call childrenrefugees. People who does not care about our culture living on social welfare.
Hmmm... maybe Sweden is the safe-haven, so to speak. The epicenter of the New Order that will never experience this virus.
Just a thought based on your observations....
Deborah (ahamkara)
4th April 2020, 17:56
Not sure if you meant this, but what really jumped out at me and went 'ding ding ding' in my gut that I hadn't considered and makes so much sense.....
"....as the enemy need only aggressively deploy the weapon inside their borders, as in Wuhan, to trigger the sovereign governments to comply with the program..."
I've been watching closely how governments respond, e.g. Sweden, USA, UK, etc. Studying their erratic policies of the ladder two countries over time, it would seem something else is going on behind the curtain. For example, both Trump and Johnson are populous leaders; complying with the NWO program would be extremely unpopular with their respective constituencies and counter their countries "at-present" anti-globalist platforms. As one would expect, both Trump and Johnson initially resisted and were late on board to comply with the program.
In other words, at the outset their policies and responses were consistent with their politics; at some point, however, Trump suddenly flipped a switch and within weeks Johnson followed suit. The UK executed a sudden turn about from a policy of "we're going to be precautionary and informative but allow for herd immunity to take hold" to "draconian lockdown".
What changed overnight? Better intel? Really? And is Sweden and other countries next?
The common explanation of the abrupt policy changes in USA and UK is reporting from the Imperial College globalist organization whose ever-grim conclusions forced both Trump and Johnson (among others governments) to wake up and smell the coffee; an even more common, but inaccurate understanding (imv), tags their respective inaction to comply with the NWO rollout on incompetence and poor leadership. However, both explanations are watered down and unconvincing; it hardly convinces me the Imperial Collage, without official collaboration, dictated the policy of the two countries with the most advanced and sophisticated intelligence networks in the world, i.e., to suddenly switch gears and comply with a blatant NWO rollout.
What's more convincing to me is factions of the NWO agenda released a devastating bioweapon in Wuhan and perhaps in Italy, with mutating and weaker strains spilling over to Europe and the west coast of USA, the Hiroshima, so to speak, which compelled Trump to restrict travel from China early on and adopt responses nonetheless antithetical to the NWO rollout, until Nagasaki is dropped (or threatened) in NYC, at which point we see a capitulation in the USA, likely with a message to Johnson, London is next... your current policies will not survive the "potent strain" we can and will deploy, but UK can still avoid the worst of it. Comply.
Erratic responses from the USA and UK signal to me we are dealing with a bioweapon attack and are in the middle of a war the public doesn't fully understand.
I'm not saying the war is over or the NWO rollout in inevitable, but at some point we the people are going to need to resist and stop demanding our governments comply--in other words there may be no place to run; we need to look for alternative solutions.
This may be extremely difficult if we are fighting an enemy with a very effective bioweapon.
This feels like an accurate and astute assessment of the current situation. I am still trying to formulate what "resistance" looks like... thanks to all who are contributing to the Forum.
graciousb
4th April 2020, 19:07
I read your well thought out post carefully, I think it's a very accurate summary, there's nearly nothing to add in terms of it being a great snapshot of right now and nothing to do but watch.
Not sure if you meant this, but what really jumped out at me and went 'ding ding ding' in my gut that I hadn't considered and makes so much sense.....
"....as the enemy need only aggressively deploy the weapon inside their borders, as in Wuhan, to trigger the sovereign governments to comply with the program..."
It makes sense that the globalists deliberately chose to start the virus in Wuhan for all the obvious political bullying implications/manipulations.... but it would also explain why China is being the least over reactive to something being sold as so contagious everywhere else in the world like I noted seemed strange in my previous post.
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And curious that the initial videos released from China (posing as coming organically from citizens , nothing gets out with CCP approval internet on total lockdown), of folks screaming and crying, people being dragged away in the streets..was for what purpose? To demonstrate how competent and right they are later when things are shown as all taken care of? They have no transparency, no one can go in and vet their statistics or reports.
Kamikaze
4th April 2020, 23:06
delete it all.
shaberon
4th April 2020, 23:07
NWO = authoritarian governance of people, restrictions of movements, eradication of local jurisdiction and sovereign states, including any declaration of inalienable rights. (This concept is much different from globalization).
There is nothing new about authoritarianism; eradication of states is not order. I guess I find NWO to be a horrible misnomer; it seems to be enabling something, or cognitive dissonance, by making it a key phrase, when it is not a thing.
Authoritarian government cannot function by removing jurisdictions. The degradation of effective political units is a relatively new approach and American-based, whereas New World is an old phrase meaning beyond the Mediterranean sphere of influence, when colonialists were highly interested in placing king-like governors.
My parents grounded me many times, everyone tells me what to do, which would basically make all humanity a dictator.
Peoples' movements can be restricted by a monarch, a chief, or an elected official, so I have to question in what way that lockdown is an agendum of any particular entity.
If a country or state is sovereign, the person is not, and the point of the American revolution was that a natural human is sovereign, to which government is only a flunky. This was of course reversed and overwhelmed, but again, all I would have to do here is re-instate my sovereignty, and then the federal government and statutory law goes away. So the same solution has always been available; no one pursues it.
ralfy
4th April 2020, 23:41
OK, yes I didn't really think of it that way and would be glad to change the title of the thread to be more accurate. I know you understand what this thread is meant to keep track of - countries/states managing to successfully stay sovereign or more sovereign (is that a better word?) and not agreeing to betray their citizens and self destruct their country like the others are. I'm open to your suggestion of how to change the wording of the thread title.
I shared this article in another thread which shows that the global economy is essentially capitalist and run by a few multinational corporations:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354-500-revealed-the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world/
They (especially banks) are very likely the main source of funds of not only businesses but also of governments. If so, then government policies will mostly favor these corporations.
Because the system is mostly capitalist, then the goal is maximization of profit through increased sales of goods and services to increasing numbers of people worldwide. This, of course, involves increasing use of material resources and energy (leading to increasing pollution) and increasing financial speculation (which leads to chronic economic crashes and increasing debt).
What about citizens? Most of them want more goods and services, especially for the bulk of the world population living in developing countries. In short, they want what capitalists want.
How about governments? They need increasing funds for all sorts of public services for citizens, which means increased revenues from taxes and investments, which means increasing economic activity, which is also what capitalists and citizens want. In short, what they want is what citizens and capitalists want.
And as these goods and services become increasingly sophisticated, they require more cross-country transactions, supply chains, foreign investments, and so on, and thus lead to more dependence between businesses from different countries. In short, globalization.
What all these mean is that any country or human group that is independent is likely not part of that global economy, which means it only has some subsistence economy.
T Smith
5th April 2020, 00:07
NWO = authoritarian governance of people, restrictions of movements, eradication of local jurisdiction and sovereign states, including any declaration of inalienable rights. (This concept is much different from globalization).
There is nothing new about authoritarianism; eradication of states is not order...Authoritarian government cannot function by removing jurisdictions.
Let me clarify... by eradication of nations states I mean eradication of "states power..." If the NWO decrees you must be chipped to participate in commerce, or vaccinated for the greater good, you or the state or nation that represents you will have no political power to resist. The United States of America, and all its various states and local governments will still exist under a NWO (as administrators of power for the NWO), albeit as vassal states.
Your analogy is also a good one. The American revolution did established the natural human being as sovereign, but this order has long since been upended. Think the frog in the pot scenario... citizens are sovereign on paper and in theory only (good luck challenging that right in a court of law). I actually know a sovereign citizen who challenged the system, e.g. income tax, property tax, the whole bit. Interesting set of legal battles there, but I digress...
The same progression of governance that eroded the sovereignty of the individual is playing out before our eyes to the nation states themselves... who will fall in line if nations (as individuals before them) do not check the centralized power grab.
Michi
5th April 2020, 00:42
Geez! Is it soooo difficult to stay on topic!!! :(
Following graphic shows current European Covid-19 restrictions:
(sorry for the large graphic - could't resize it -- NOTE TO THE ADMIN: BBCcode RESIZING TAG, DOESN'T WORK HERE ON AVALON:
https://www.bbcode.org/examples/?id=10
https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/eustatetemplate_27mar.png
Here is the link, to open the graphic in a new window: https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/eustatetemplate_27mar.png
The following link shows all countries which have locked their borders:
https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-on-lockdown-coronavirus-italy-2020-3?r=DE&IR=T#thailand-will-begin-a-10-pm-to-4-am-curfew-on-friday-the-country-was-already-on-a-weeklong-nationwide-state-of-emergency-3 (http://www.businessinsider.com/countries-on-lockdown-coronavirus-italy-2020-3?r=DE&IR=T#thailand-will-begin-a-10-pm-to-4-am-curfew-on-friday-the-country-was-already-on-a-weeklong-nationwide-state-of-emergency-3)
And, finally - the following graphic shows countries with closed/partial closed borders.
Thus the "grayed-out" areas have no travel restrictions:
http://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ft_2020.04.01_borderclosures.png?resize=640,570
Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/01/more-than-nine-in-ten-people-worldwide-live-in-countries-with-travel-restrictions-amid-covid-19/
So, perhaps those gray areas aren't controlled by the WHO
And - please, PLEASE, stay on topic.
waves
5th April 2020, 01:23
Awesome graphics Michi, thank you so much. Those charts and how they change will be very interesting to watch.
I bet there are other charts being offered in different countries, it would be interesting to compare the differences.... or find out only one chart is being 'allowed'.
I'll look around for others.
Thank you.
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chancy
5th April 2020, 14:29
Thank you very much Bill, no thank you very much Dedukshyn.
Please do not make this a thread about how wrong anyone standing against the NWO agenda is, that's just more imposing your spit on those that disagree with you. There are at least 20 other threads to pontificate in.
Please RESPECT THE PREMISE OF THIS THREAD and let the non compliant independent thinkers and rebels to this NWO agenda share without more attacks from NWO enablers.
Hello Waves and eveyone:
I am from Alberta Canada. There is NO LOCKDOWN IN THIS PROVINCE so I am not sure what you are so upset about Dedukshyn's post?
I agree that there are only 2 ways to get Covid19. Through exposure or vaccination.
No one wants a pandemic in this part of the planet ( Alberta ) but all the measures are designed to slow the spread down.
No one is against anyone standing up to the NWO. This was not even talked about in Dedukshyn's post.
I think you need to read it again and understand it instead of spouting off about how terrible the post was.
Sweden may be the only place in Europe no practicing lockdown BUT there are other places doing the same like Sweden. Alberta Canada is NOT IN LOCKDOWN. In fact, I am leaving in awhile to go to the lumber yard.
Have a great day!
chancy
waves
5th April 2020, 16:06
.....
I am from Alberta Canada. There is NO LOCKDOWN IN THIS PROVINCE so I am not sure what you are so upset about Dedukshyn's post? ......
I apologized to Dedukshyn privately already, I reacted in quick frustration with what to me was instant off topic citing of more of the sick/dying statistics that there were already 20 other threads doing prolifically, but it also triggered my frustration with the use of any of the statistics at all because I'm with the crowd that has shown them to be lies due to the invalidity of the so called test therefore to me, repeating them is helping enable the agenda, but that issue wasn't even established yet in this thread and isn't the point.
I apologize again for my over reaction from what I think are years of suppressing frustration at many, many thread de-railers, often among the first to reply.
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SO BACK TO TOPIC.
That's amazing that there's no lockdown in Alberta. Talking about exceptions like that is what this thread is for, not debating the contagiousness or not, or test validity or not.
I'm curious what restrictions there are in Alberta, and would be interested if any other provinces are also showing resistance.
Is Alberta/Canada pushing the 'social distancing' however?
Thank you for speaking honestly with me.
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DeDukshyn
5th April 2020, 16:37
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I am from Alberta Canada. There is NO LOCKDOWN IN THIS PROVINCE so I am not sure what you are so upset about Dedukshyn's post? ......
I apologized to Dedukshyn privately already, I reacted in quick frustration with what to me was instant off topic citing of more of the sick/dying statistics that there were already 20 other threads doing prolifically, but it also triggered my frustration with the use of any of the statistics at all because I'm with the crowd that has shown them to be lies due to the invalidity of the so called test therefore to me, repeating them is helping enable the agenda, but that issue wasn't even established yet in this thread and isn't the point.
I apologize again for my over reaction from what I think are years of suppressing frustration at many, many thread de-railers, often among the first to reply.
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SO BACK TO TOPIC.
That's amazing that there's no lockdown in Alberta. Talking about exceptions like that is what this thread is for, not debating the contagiousness or not, or test validity or not.
I'm curious what restrictions there are in Alberta, and would be interested if any other provinces are also showing resistance.
Is Alberta/Canada pushing the 'social distancing' however?
Thank you for speaking honestly with me.
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I just want to say I don't have a belief in those stats at all. I was just saying what some models have presented - I present info objectively for people to do with what the want. I'm not trying to sell anyone anything.
Now for my 'on topic' comment ...
I live in Calgary Alberta.
The pressure here has been put on businesses, and much less on individuals. I can still go out whenever I want and do whatever I want. So that is good.
Businesses and organizations, on the other hand will get a hefty fine if they don't comply to the guidance. Any personal aesthetic care (salons, etc.) are shut down. Restaurants cannot have more than 12 people I believe (edit sorry dine-in is not allowed). Grocery stores have to follow strict sanitation guidelines, etc. Schools and public gathering places like bars, and churches are closed down.
The Alberta government created distinctions for "essential" and "non-essential" business - non essentials are to close, and essentials are to try to remain open.
So we're bordering on that line, but I do appreciate that individual's rights are still intact. The only exception is if you get cold / flu symptoms, you have to stay home and there are fines allotted for breaking that, although it couldn't be properly enforced - more of a scare tactic.
There's not a lot of push back from the general masses, and I think this is due to the fact that our individual rights are still intact.
I went shopping yesterday though, and it was like everyone got sick of following the rules and most people were acting fairly normal. That day was a bit of an outlier though. Most people actually seem afraid.
I guess one thing to watch might be to see what areas (provinces /states / countries) act to keep individual rights intact, it might be interesting to see who tries hard to maintain that. I think most of Canada is doing things similarly to Alberta, but each province has jurisdiction to handle this in their own way.
Edit: edited a bit for clarity / accuracy.
chancy
5th April 2020, 16:43
.....
I am from Alberta Canada. There is NO LOCKDOWN IN THIS PROVINCE so I am not sure what you are so upset about Dedukshyn's post? ......
I apologized to Dedukshyn privately already, I reacted in quick frustration with what to me was instant off topic citing of more of the sick/dying statistics that there were already 20 other threads doing prolifically, but it also triggered my frustration with the use of any of the statistics at all because I'm with the crowd that has shown them to be lies due to the invalidity of the so called test therefore to me, repeating them is helping enable the agenda, but that issue wasn't even established yet in this thread and isn't the point.
I apologize again for my over reaction from what I think are years of suppressing frustration at many, many thread de-railers, often among the first to reply.
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SO BACK TO TOPIC.
That's amazing that there's no lockdown in Alberta. Talking about exceptions like that is what this thread is for, not debating the contagiousness or not, or test validity or not.
I'm curious what restrictions there are in Alberta, and would be interested if any other provinces are also showing resistance.
Is Alberta/Canada pushing the 'social distancing' however?
Thank you for speaking honestly with me.
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Hello Waves and Everyone:
We have alot of mixed messages here in Alberta. It's like there is a big box of ideas and someone throws out a few each day just for something new.
Example: The government wants small business to work BUT then tells them only essential services are able to stay open.
( Is a lumber yard an essential service?)
All lumber yards are open. All fast food drive thrus are open but they have decided no one inside to sit down.
All gas stations are open. All grocery stores are open.
Most businesses are doing social distancing BUT with completely different ideas on it. Example.
Some are 1 meter, some are 2 meters, some are 3 metres, some are just saying it and not saying what distance just do it.
People have in the last few days have been asked to stay home if they don't have anything important to do but it's not an order of stay home lockdown.
I think more people are afraid and have anxiety than really believe all the hype. From the people I have talked to 99.9% believe this is way over board on all the ideas being used. Most believe they are going to be alright even if they contract covid19.
The fear comes from social media, radio, tv, newspaper, internet etc.
My opinion is this has been an organized effort to scare people into submission.
I think eventually we we be on lockdown as a province because Alberta has already been controlled by the UN. ( In about 2008-2012 we had a premier who was a lawyer for the UN. Her name was Redford. She passed legislation that took everyones land without paying a cent for it. Today ALL land in Alberta is NOT OWNED BY THE PEOPLE. You pay for it but don't own it)
Keith Wilson a land lawyer from St. Albert, Alberta was going around the province warning about this and only a handfull of people believed him. This was part of Agenda 21.
Keith has lots of youtube videos etc. in regards to land rights lost etc.
This is why I am not surprised that lockdown will be coming but I just am not sure when.
chancy
waves
5th April 2020, 19:18
This article deserves a full open read besides the link. I'm cross posting from the 'don't believe the statistics' thread thanks to viking.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/7649/prepare_for_the_mother_of_all_s_t_storms_if_sweden_pulls_this_off?fbclid=IwAR1t6XaF3NOFhBF9EHoldSJsv ls9g05rgMM1GyCTEE0mO4RN3kg-C-Gbfd0#.XohGhS58d2U.facebook
Prepare for the mother of all s**t storms if Sweden pulls this off
https://i.postimg.cc/rmWLTWf8/swedes-ignoring.jpg
If Sweden, which has not locked down its economy and society, emerges with a death toll from COVID-19 that is somewhere in the middle of the pack of European countries, there is going to be a lot of recrimination, particularly against those who have tried to silence any discussion about the true extent of the threat that COVID-19 actually poses.
In a word: Sweden. What happens if they pull this off? What happens if it turns out that we could have coped with COVID-19 without collapsing entire sectors of the economy putting millions on the dole, and imposing some of the most draconian restrictions on civil liberties in living memory?
Sweden has not closed the bars. Shopping malls are open. Schools and companies are open too. There are some restrictions such as on gatherings of over 50 people. But, in comparison with most European countries, life in Sweden is relatively normal.
Right now, Sweden's death rate from coronavirus is 33 per million of the population. In France it is 83. In Italy it is 230. In Britain it is 43. In the Netherlands it is 78.
In the United States the number of deaths per million of the population is 18, but many argue that the outbreak in America took off later, and European levels of fatality from the virus are on their way. We shall see.
But, in any case, which levels of European fatality? The figures are all over the place. Partly this must be due to different ways in which the death toll is being counted.
In some countries, COVID-19 is being listed as the cause of death merely if it appears somewhere on the death certificate. In other words, you may have been days away from dying from terminal lung cancer, but if you had contracted COVID-19 in the meantime, your death will be listed in the overall COVID-19 fatality numbers. In other countries, it has to have been the single most obvious cause of death to make it into the same statistics.
Sweden appears to be in the latter category, which may be making their numbers look a little lower than in countries which list things differently. But probably not enough to radically change the comparisons.
That will all be looked at closely when all this is over.
But if, when all such necessary adjustments have been made, Sweden emerges with a death toll from COVID-19 that is somewhere in the middle of the pack of European countries, there is going to be a lot of recrimination, particularly against those who have tried to silence any discussion about the extent of the threat that COVID-19 actually poses.
What is interesting though, is that precisely because it is Sweden, the usual suspects in our politics who benefit from disillusionment with the establishment may find it hard to profit from this. The Swedish government is led by Stefan Loeven, a Social Democrat.
Sweden is practically a role model for mainstream, left of centre politics. If you're a European populist, it's going to be more than a little incongruous to start singing the praises of Sweden, of all countries.
Similarly in America. Donald Trump has, albeit reluctantly, broadly followed the lockdown policies we see across most of Europe. Unless he very quickly does a 180 degree turn (and don't rule that out) how can he profit from his usual disdain for the way things are done by the establishment?
That said, if this particular "Swedish model" wins the day, someone is going to get it in the neck. The question is, who?
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My dream is that millions and millions of people sue their governments for all the damage when the truth becomes apparent.
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Michi
5th April 2020, 22:31
Belarus seems to be another country still not obeying the "European Covid-19 containment rules".
https://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentary_the_coronavirus_in_eastern_europe_avoiding_another_chernobyl
BELARUS
Until only a few days ago, Belarus had a similar number of coronavirus cases per capita to Ukraine. Yet, by 1 April, Belarus – whose population is less than a quarter of the size of Ukraine’s – had reported only 169 confirmed cases, and two deaths from the disease. The country has introduced fewer restrictions than Ukraine: as yet, there have been no large-scale quarantine measures, internal restrictions on freedom of movement, or school closures.
President Alexander Lukashenko has taken a risk by continuing to play his normal populist game, attributing fears about the virus to “psychosis”. “There are no viruses here”, he claimed; “did you see any of them flying around? I don’t see them either”. Belarus is the only country in Europe whose football league is still active; the new season started on 14 March. Less than two weeks later, however, parliament was considering a package of further measures.
The ongoing row between Belarus and Russia over oil subsidies had been cooling somewhat with the fall in the global oil price, but it flared up again when Moscow unilaterally closed their border on 16 March. Lukashenko reacted disdainfully, pointing out that Russia had more cases than Belarus, and that the sides had put in place measures to create a ‘green corridor’ for transit trade to Russia through Belarus.
Belarus worries that its already weak economy will be indirectly plunged into recession, as neighbouring economies – Russia’s especially – introduce protectionist measures and experience deflation. Unlike Ukraine, Belarus has had little recent dialogue with the IMF. Belarus has warned it may be forced to “restructure some part of its external state debt” and hold off on payments due in 2020.
(Andrew Wilson)
waves
6th April 2020, 03:05
https://pjmedia.com/trending/rebellion-this-is-not-nazi-germany-or-soviet-russia-where-you-are-asked-for-your-papers-says-maine-sheriff/
NEWS AND POLITICS
REBELLION:
'This Is Not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia Where You Are Asked For Your Papers!' Says Maine Sheriff
BY MEGAN FOX APRIL 3, 2020
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Maine’s Franklin County Sheriff Scott Nichols has a strong message for the Governor of Maine, Janet Mills, who issued “stay-at-home” orders with threats of police punishment if not followed. Sheriff Nichols issued a statement on the Franklin County Facebook page saying in no uncertain terms he will not follow the unconstitutional order.
“We will not be setting up a Police State. PERIOD,” he wrote. “The Sheriff’s Office will not purposefully go out and stop vehicles because they are on the road or stop and ask why people are out and about. To do so puts our officers at risk. This is not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia where you are asked for your papers!”
The sheriff’s announcement comes as a welcome sign to Americans who have been arrested for inane things like praying outside, surfing, or trying to drive to work. Someone has to stand up to the unconstitutional directives that are being handed down daily by government officials and it will fall on the sheriffs to uphold what they know to be their legal and lawful duties, none of which involve trampling the rights of citizens.
“Please use common sense during this executive order. We are more interested in the safety and well-being of the public as well as our officers at this time. With that being said, we are sworn to uphold the Constitution and laws of the State – for any unlawful act/situation, arrestees will be taken into custody and transported for fingerprinting and bail.”
Nichols made it clear that he only intends to arrest for matters of law-breaking, and nothing else. Executive orders aren’t laws. He finished his announcement with words of encouragement for his constituents: “Most of you are doing a fantastic job – we appreciate that! Please look out for one another, especially the elderly and shut-ins. Please be a good neighbor/citizen always showing compassion. Please be kind especially on social media, negativity online only adds to the stress people are currently experiencing.”
Nichols signed this brave decree with his name and followed it with “Of the People, For the People.”
The sheriffs of America have great power and authority where unconstitutional executive overreach is concerned. All the sheriffs of our nation should start conferencing with Sheriff Nichols immediately to learn more about the limits of their offices. Frankly, I’m surprised it took this long for one to come forward with this common-sense response to unlawful acts by state officials. Perhaps a good exercise for people stuck on lockdown would be to call their local sheriff’s office and find out where the local sheriff stands on this very important issue of the people’s rights.
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ralfy
6th April 2020, 03:52
From "Why Swedes are not yet locked down" (https://www.economist.com/europe/2020/04/04/why-swedes-are-not-yet-locked-down):
Inherent in Sweden’s social contract is trust in the state, trust by the state in its citizens and trust among citizens, explains Lars Tragardh, a historian. Swedes can be relied on to adhere to rules voluntarily and to self-regulate. Moreover, jokes Carl Bildt, a former prime minister, “Swedes, especially of the older generation, have a genetic disposition to social distancing anyway.” Over half of Swedish households consist of just one person, the highest number of single-person households in the world. The country is sparsely populated. And Swedes do not kiss or hug as much as southern Europeans tend to do.
Meanwhile, "Sweden mulls U-turn on coronavirus restrictions" (https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-mulls-u-turn-on-coronavirus-restrictions/a-53020024).
waves
6th April 2020, 07:00
Why Gov. Noem won't order a shelter-in-place for South Dakotans
https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2020/04/01/coronavirus-why-gov-noem-wont-order-shelter-place-south-dakotans/5106939002/
(partial text)
...."The calls to apply for a one-size-fits-all approach to this problem is herd mentality," Noem said during the conference. "It's not leadership."
Wednesday marked Noem's strongest expression of this notion — after briefly discussing unemployment procedures at the beginning of the press conference, Noem pivoted, saying she wanted to "touch on the role of government in a crisis situation."
She discussed the constitutions of both the country and the state, saying they prevent "draconian measures much like the Chinese government has done," and "actions we've seen European governments take that limit citizen's rights."
"Our constitution ensures that the citizen's right is protected," Noem said. "I agree with the role of our government as set forth in our state and in our national constitution."
In that vein, while Noem has urged the importance of social distancing and hygiene again and again, she's also made it clear that she's asking South Dakotans to follow those guidelines, not telling them to.
"The people themselves are primarily responsible for their safety," Noem said. "They are the ones that are entrusted with expansive freedoms. They're free to exercise their rights to work, to worship, and to play. Or to even stay at home, or to conduct social distancing."....
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The Sioux Falls Argus Leader however, is also trying hard to rally people to sign a petition to force the governor to order a shelter in place saying they had '17,000 signatures' as of today.
For me, much respect to this governor.
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AutumnW
6th April 2020, 07:49
Sweden has three times the infection rate per capita of neighbouring Norway. Their relaxed attitude about the pandemic was partly based on Swedes practising social distancing almost as a way of life. And, their strong common sense as a people with respect for their government's suggestions. Fortunately it hasn't been enough and they are changing their strategy.
The Swedish attitude in no way reflects the American libertarianism approach and its flagrant disregard for the rights of others by placing its sole emphasis on the rights of the individual. It is a failed ideology that has no place when a measured, swift and COLLECTIVE approach to a pandemic is required.
Hughe
6th April 2020, 19:52
We live in 21st century of the middle age. It is the rise of barbarism again.
We eat poisoned food, breath polluted dirty air, drink poisoned water, and the final addition is polluted SPACE by electromagnetic radiation, 5G. Sick population has dramatically increased, which is good for the sick care system under capitalism. My right to live healthy was stripped when I born.
South Korean government hasn't locked down a village yet. Ministry of Health and local government aggressively test and shutdown business or residential building though if it is necessary to contain the spread of COVID-19. Business is shutdown for two or three weeks whenever confirmed cases are found. International travel, entertainment industry began to produce a lot of unemployment and other industry is being affected. This country has draconian public sick care system which general public worships it. If you miss monthly payment of the sick care insurance few times, your health coverage expired, and the government sieges your asset.
Honestly it's amazing to watch all governments believe in the fabricated data from Chinese government. I personally think there is over one million death and hundreds million of infectees of COVID-19 in China alone. Except few countries, the others follow China's monstrous, stupid steps to handle the pandemic.
Hughe
6th April 2020, 23:21
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-06-5g-alter-hemoglobin-coronavirus-patients-oxygen-deprivation.html
Can 5G exposure alter the structure and function of hemoglobin, causing coronavirus patients to die from oxygen deprivation?
A thorough review of the available published science on wireless (WiFi) and electromagnetic frequency (EMF) exposure has identified at least seven different ways that WiFi and EMF microwave pollution actively harms the human body.
Published in the journal Environmental Research, the peer-reviewed paper explains that exposure to WiFi signals, which are everywhere these days, can lead to: oxidative stress, sperm and testicular damage, neuropsychiatric effects including EEG (electroencephalogram) changes, apoptosis (programmed cell death), cellular DNA damage, endocrine changes, and calcium overload.
Note that coronavirus patients are already being observed with neuropsychiatric effects, testicular damage and oxidative stress, three of the symptoms of 5G exposure.
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6th April 2020, 23:34
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-06-5g-alter-hemoglobin-coronavirus-patients-oxygen-deprivation.html
[QUOTE]Can 5G exposure alter the structure and function of hemoglobin, causing coronavirus patients to die from oxygen deprivation?....
Did you look at this title of this thread first? We're not discussing these issues here.
I and others already posted about the oxygen depriving/5g effects on the 'Covid19: Don't trust the statistics (or the science re the tests/the cause of the sickness' thread - the appropriate place to continue that discussion.
This thread is about countries/states resisting the agenda including this.
Please join the discussion already in progress there. Thank you.
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