David Icke on 5G and Covid-19

[ExomatrixTV]

I’m Worried About David Icke Today...
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The Coronavirus Conspiracy (https://londonreal.tv/the-coronavirus-conspiracy-how-covid-19-will-seize-your-rights-destroy-our-economy-david-icke/): How COVID-19 Will Seize Your Rights & Destroy Our Economy


Video deleted from YouTube and now also Vimeo! (https://www.davidicke.com/article/567418/david-icke-live-london-real-today-330pm-uk) View the Bitchute version:

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[Hym]

I can't let this one go, without noting the tremendous difference between the presenter's site and Project Avalon's independent and non-monetized site. Click Bait Bull****. Bill can always use any donation he can get, and many of us have contributed here, but the purity of his intent and the tremendous efforts it has taken with the hard working volunteers who keep it afloat is a distinct and glorious difference from the site I note above. (All I could share was my best ancient computer a while back, but every little effort counts, especially here on Avalon.)

We have always worried about David Icke's safety as we have concerns about all who present a counter narrative to the deeply ingrained lies from all institutions of control that claim to serve humanity and do nothing of the sort. One of the first interviewees on Project Camelot was likely murdered for sharing his experiences and that loss was felt deeply by Bill and Kerry. However, using this common concern as clickbait is below the ethics of anyone who is honest. The demand of that site to collect data tells a lot about the site's real guiding purpose.

Either way, if David is taken out none of us would be surprised. That of course would make all of his talks and his books much more popular, which is quite the deep concern of those who oppose the truth.

When we access a site and it demands to have access to all of our data by removing our ability to block all of the data gathering, thru 'cookies', I call bull****.


If You Believe In Cookies from the Cloud....

Remember to listen to the words that liars and controllers, not servants, not those of pure intent, use to get you to give up your consciousness and your innate right to freedom. The same asshats who told you that the "cloud" was collecting all of your communications, ( knowing full well that the "cloud" was nothing at all like a cloud, quite fully the opposite, but a massive, Stasi-cloned, data collecting series of buildings in Utah and elsewhere) are the same evil f**ks that sell you "cookies" that collect your data and make whatever you share, whatever you dig deep to understand, whatever you expose of your humanity just another tool to abuse you, to extract a monetized sum from you. That same device is nowhere near being sweet and tasty like a cookie.

On the deepest and most meaningful, real world levels the word whores of commerce and control are amongst the worst humans ever. They gloat on using their creativity for evil intent with their bosses and fellow workers, but their souls are amongst the darkest and their deeds the most despicable control mechanisms that are used as weapons against your humanity.

The site that the presenter makes his "living" off of is much more than a news and information site. Monetizing a site to the degree that it demands to have access to your data is just another excuse to serve the corporate beast, the information agencies and all of the scammers who profit from the theft of your information. I call Big Time B.S.!


Ickes Site Past......

I even had the same discussion with David some years back when I found myself at all of the clickbait sites that we had to go to when copying the information that the small paragraphs he copied onto his site alluded to. At that time I left even reading his site, content enough to read his books, as he never corrected that clickbait referral interference we all found when collecting the sometimes relative information referred to from his site. For all of the insightful and informative collection of data David shares/shared, it is counter-intuitive to claim independent thought, be a supporter of the freedom of speech and be bound to the dictates of the data state of the corporate world.


The Importance of Openness.....

The following side note of mine is only a bit off topic, but it shows a perspective of how we all need more than a little degree of openness no matter how insightful we, to ourselves, seem to be....

On one level, I was not surprised when I met David in 2011 and he almost immediately had a problem with me wearing a turban and being a sikh. I had grown accustomed in SoCal and elsewhere to the profound ignorance and the fearful prejudice over the decades, but seeing it from David was yet another lesson. At the moment it took me by surprise, but I felt compelled, respecting his works, to tell him that I didn't belong to the american sikh community I knew with all of it's corruption and was not bound by any dictates of religion.

It is antithetical to be a sikh, or a human for that matter and claim any path of spirituality, and think you're better than anyone, irrespective of the fact that the initial history of that path fought and died for the rights of others, others who in turn even died for their right to exist. My choices were and are spiritual. He obviously didn't have the time to listen.

I don't know his experience with sikhs in England but he apparently, thru his "studies", determined it unlikely for anyone to be free enough to see all truths and wear a turban at the same time. He certainly has never experienced a synchronicitous reading, a Hookum Naam, with the written source because he would be open if he had. Not my problem, nor obviously not David's. For someone willing to take ayahuasca and to never have independently, personally taken a Hukam tells a lot about his own cultural upbringing and the limitations of his studies. My son and I were living in our own truths, actually wearing our head coverings way, way beyond any identity the outside world dictates. In my case I often forgot I was wearing one.

It got to be so tiring to have to tell people the difference between one religion and the other and the fact that I didn't practice the fake yoga of a corrupt sikh "leader" and his blind acolytes. It was good for me and my son both to be exposed to David's bias, to get a real perspective of the limits of his sharing, enjoy all of the great insights he has and would share, and come up with our own service for and with humanity, which is what we have always done. His truths are not negated by his own ignorance, which is the often the case for all of us. However, if we ever meet again he will listen. I'll even challenge him to simply feel what it is like to wear a real turban, not a mop or a diaper or a rag, by offering to put one on him the way us sikhs do daily. Super comfortable and energizing, focusing.

Back To Topic.

This video is another clickbait monetizer, capitalizing on David's shared insights from his last visit to the guy's site. As the presenter claims, likely so, that the interview with David got millions of views my look at this short warning about David's safety is an instinctual habit of the presenter to monetize his next interview with Dave and in my opinion not any real concern for Dave's safety.

London Real, that's the name? Really? It's a clue, like all of the u.s.media outlets that advertise themselves as "trustworthy" meaning that they weren't beforehand. When you have to declare yourself as real or trustworthy and you are a public media outfit you tell us that you come from a habitually dishonest business atmosphere and remain ignorant to the fact that we see that as a sign of dishonesty, but only because it is. I'm not surprised MF'ers! They all want to get us hooked on media steroids and the quick hit, but so many of us are far beyond the drip.

It's not fresh air. It's London. It, at once, is a big city with activity and vibrance, with life, and then it is still a human city with its attendant inhumanities and clusterf##k of mental entrainments, carried by each individual. Too many words and when the words aren't there the mental caves resonate with them, few of them being loving, liberating and empowering words.

Just think of how powerful those minds are giving positive and encouraging, challenging thoughts. It's a physical virus but not as much as it is a spiritual, core held viral belief manifest in lack of action, in the acceptance of fear, a state of not being open to reviewing our own beliefs.

These protests in writing, important as the physicians, scientists and researchers present to us is about the lies hidden in plain sight for many years, are the gatherings of love demanding we go beyond acceptance of control mechanisms and demanding we find our strengths to cure the very deepest of illnesses.

It's in the air, that disease of darkness, often cured with very simple thoughts and simple deeds. We now see these lost signs of encouragement found with people sharing their love with others, even with all of the corniest and lamest ones coming from celebrities.

It's media that's not in the medium, the middle of anything but the soulless and thick darkness of deceit. It's their job, but don't be kind. They know exactly what they're doing. They work for it. They, on a deeper level in attempts of each society to awaken, need the fights. I don't.

[Tomkoyote]

Me too, I am worried about David Icke.
If anything happens to him or to the Internet or many other things, the first species to be directly responsible is what I have always called the non thinking stupid cattle that make up more that 90% of humans race on this planet. Things are changing by the day (I can see it day after day) great thanks to all the mask-wearing, socia-distance paranoid dumbos out there.

We are living in a smart world
-smart phones
-smart cities
-smart sex
-smart food
-smart distancing
-smart thinking
-smart summer
-smart fall
-smart Christmas
-smart anything
-smart everything
-Smart life

for stupid cattle.

[Peter UK]

David Icke has stated quite explicitly and confidently that he can't be taken out, if that was possible it would have likely happened before now.

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[Hym]

Not worried about David at all. He isn't worried either. He has seen the changes as we all have. It is just the pace of change we all pay attention to, constantly listening, looking for the proofs of awakening. Listening deeply within...Soonee-eh Deep...

He accepted the limitations of exposure as a mental journey much more than a physical threat a long, long time ago. He has been free to go for a while now. That is why he continues.

Connecting the dots, coalescing the thoughts, removing the spots before our eyes and seeing thru the lies. Even if you have to follow the blood stains left by the beast, don't worry about it. You can handle it.

It is not your shadow, the boogie monster you've accepted from your youth, but your unresolved guilt training that makes you susceptibile to the self doubt that leaves you open to manipulation.

[greybeard]

Im watching this live just now.
Missed the first part.
David Icke is an enigma.
He is now talking about deep spiritual truth.
That is -- one awareness -- only consciousness, we are points of focus of the one consciousness.

He is talking of uniqueness -- and that is true in this illusion of separation but ultimately part of Maya.
He is saying, discover your own depth as in spirituality. Enlightenment, although he has not specifically said that word.

[greybeard]

Reminding self.
David Icke in the famous Wogan interview many years ago said more orless that he was God as in Self realization
In India they call it God realization.
So after the change-- they have been know to say "I am the totality all of it" no one in India would bat an eye, in the UK many eyes were raised along the lines of "David Icke has lost it"

The shock of enlightenment can lead to outspoken statements which are true for the enlightened but not understandable for the rest of us, so we can ridicule the statements and the person.
Thats what happened to David Icke. I have a problem with some of his statements regarding shape shifting and some "entities" but thats my problem.

Also normally the enlightened dont concern themselves with the story -- Maya -- their focus is getting us out of the illusion of separation into the "state" called enlightenment.

I will download interview and catch up with all that he said -- interesting no doubt.

Chris

[Cardillac]

the newest complete interview with DI on London Real a few days ago is at this time no longer available on YouTube-

Larry

[greybeard]

David Icke Just Left The Building & This is What He Taught Me


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsnQsqYvXwM

[Tomkoyote]

David Icke has stated quite explicitly and confidently that he can't be taken out, if that was possible it would have likely happened before now.
I really really hope you are right. If they can take out JFK, ML King, and others, they can hit anybody... I hope not. If there is someone who can hit the masses on their head and wake them up, it's DI.

[Bill Ryan]

the newest complete interview with DI on London Real a few days ago is at this time no longer available on YouTubeThat's true... it's gone. :facepalm:

If anyone has it downloaded, please send it to bill@projectavalon.net by http://WeTransfer.com and I'll upload it to the Avalon Library.

[Mypos]

There is a message from Brian Rose 20 min ago that they are working on uploading it again.

I just read in the comments its on David Ickes Facebook page. Maybe somebody can get it from there.

Edit I just looked and its not there. Lets wait on the new one who gets uploaded from London Real.

[greybeard]

Go to www.londonreal.tv to watch
Thats message but I could not subscribe
Maybe some one else will have better luck.
Chris

[Luke Holiday]

Go to www.londonreal.tv to watch
Thats message but I could not subscribe
Maybe some one else will have better luck.
Chris

….same here -unable to subscribe

[Mypos]

Go to www.londonreal.tv to watch
Thats message but I could not subscribe
Maybe some one else will have better luck.
Chris

….same here -unable to subscribe

Found it. If you go to London Real Facebook its still there.

[greybeard]

This may be helpful
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjXuixiN8fg

[sllim11]

i tried to go to london real, i'm already subscribed, and i got following message...

Error 1020 Ray ID: 57fe0dc7a8dfe79c • 2020-04-06 19:53:14 UTC
Access denied
What happened?
This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks.

Cloudflare Ray ID: 57fe0dc7a8dfe79c
Your IP: 2606:6000:6306:9c00:8d4:5699:cfa7:1f6b
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[Bill Ryan]

Here's today's interview (6 April). My thanks to Mypos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110553-I--m-Worried-About-David-Icke-Today...&p=1348972&viewfull=1#post1348972), who sent it in. :highfive:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_6_April_2020.mp4

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_6_April_2020.mp4

[Mypos]

Again if you want to see the vid go to Facebook London Real. Its there. You can watch it.

[Luke Holiday]

I watched the live stream. I’ve listened and read a lot of David Icke; but that was the most on-point, hard hitting, drawing the line in the sand, righteous anger I have maybe heard from anyone, ever. If that broadcast makes it mainstream, good luck to the ptb to keep this lockdown going much longer.
,
….. Agreed! It was truly an opus worthy performance - culminating a life long dedication to articulating the truth of who runs the world, how they run the world and what we can do to overcome!

No one deserves this platform, at this time, more the Mr. Icke!!!!

[norman]

Here's today's video. My thanks to Mypos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110553-I--m-Worried-About-David-Icke-Today...&p=1348972&viewfull=1#post1348972), who sent it in. :highfive:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_6_April_2020.mp4



Is this today's live stream recording ?




From Bill: Yes, it is. I'd assumed it was the original 18 March one. But that's definitely today's. I've renamed the URL of the video in the library to show the correct date. :thumbsup:

So it's the original 18 March video we're now still looking for, as that was deleted from YouTube.

[norman]

Here's today's video. My thanks to Mypos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110553-I--m-Worried-About-David-Icke-Today...&p=1348972&viewfull=1#post1348972), who sent it in. :highfive:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_6_April_2020.mp4



Is this today's live stream recording ?




From Bill: Yes, it is. I'd assumed it was the original 18 March one. But that's definitely today's. I've renamed the URL of the video in the library to show the correct date. :thumbsup:

So it's the original 18 March video we're now still looking for, as that was deleted from YouTube.




Today's is gone too. Does anyone have a download of it ?

I can't watch website vids and I can't see anything but a signup page at facebook.


edit: he's just uploaded to YT a 1 hour chunk of todays video to see if he can get away with it

[Mypos]

Here's today's video. My thanks to Mypos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110553-I--m-Worried-About-David-Icke-Today...&p=1348972&viewfull=1#post1348972), who sent it in. :highfive:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_6_April_2020.mp4



Is this today's live stream recording ?




From Bill: Yes, it is. I'd assumed it was the original 18 March one. But that's definitely today's. I've renamed the URL of the video in the library to show the correct date. :thumbsup:

So it's the original 18 March video we're now still looking for, as that was deleted from YouTube.




Im pretty sure this is todays live recording.

Look at the first 2 min of both clips. They are exactly the same. Its on Vimeo now too.

https://vimeo.com/404759136

[AutumnW]

Wh would anybody want to take him out? His claim to fame is shape shifting royalty...lizards masquerading as humans. He doesn't have enough credibility to warrant assassination. If anything he has covered his ass by sounding completely crazy.

[norman]

If this interview blows the lockdown too soon, he won't be doing the good guys any favours either, so who knows who got this video dropped ?

[Bill Ryan]

Wh would anybody want to take him out? His claim to fame is shape shifting royalty...lizards masquerading as humans. He doesn't have enough credibility to warrant assassination. If anything he has covered his ass by sounding completely crazy.Made me laugh. :bigsmile: Yes, many people do think he's crazy. :)

But he's truly not. I've spent a total of 5 weeks personal one-on-one time with him, as well as organizing one of his all-day presentations (Zurich, 2009).

He's grounded, compassionate, utterly honest, has an astonishing retention and recall of detail, and courage that might inspire Rambo. What others think of him is entirely their sovereign affair, but I do feel I know the man quite well!

[Mypos]

Here's today's interview: :thumbsup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUHOXa6-mAA

This is not the whole broadcast. The one you posted earlier is.




From Bill: Ah, thanks. This was London Real's re-upload today of the 18 March interview. I was fooled by the new date. :)


But this is not the 18 march interview. This is the interview of today.

[AutumnW]

Wh would anybody want to take him out? His claim to fame is shape shifting royalty...lizards masquerading as humans. He doesn't have enough credibility to warrant assassination. If anything he has covered his ass by sounding completely crazy.Made me laugh. :bigsmile: Yes, many people do think he's crazy. :)

But he's truly not. I've spent a total of 5 weeks personal one-on-one time with him, as well as organizing one of his all-day presentations (Zurich, 2009).

He's grounded, compassionate, utterly honest, has an astonishing retention and recall of detail, and courage that might inspire Rambo. What others think of him is entirely their sovereign affair, but I do feel I know the man quite well!

Sounds crazy is different than being crazy. He claimed on a documentary that his original contact was a very clear disembodied voice he heard. I can't remember if he said he heard it "in his head," or not. I figure that there are lower level astral entities that mess with people and it's possible he was messed with. To NOT go insane under these conditions speaks highly of him, his character and everything you say.

But a blood thirsty queen mother wandering around Buckingham palace dragging her scaley tail on the floor while sipping a cup of tea? I don't know. Don't think the powers that be would be threatened by this belief at all.:sun:

[Mypos]

Wow unbelievable. They allready taken the one that London Real uploaded down again.

Just to be perfectly clear, the interview that Bill posted on page 1 of this topic which is in Avalon Library is the interview of today 6 april.

[Luke Holiday]

[B]But a blood thirsty queen mother wandering around Buckingham palace dragging her scaley tail on the floor while sipping a cup of tea [/don

Hello Autumn,


...The fact that you make this statement is indicative the your current knowledge of DW's body of work is superficial at best...

[Hym]

Yes, Luke, it's a statement from someone not familiar with the details and spirit of Dave's work, but that is one hilarious image she created! I'll post it for myself when I need a good laugh.
That image is reminiscent of Martin Short's skit while pretending to be the queens gynecologist. Thanks for the laughs.
Back To The Topic....(I should be the one to talk...the tangental lyricist I am...)

[Bill Ryan]

Folks, apologies for all the confusion. All mea culpa. :)

This (now renamed) is today's interview. When Mypos kindly sent it to me earlier, I was looking for a download of the original one (now deleted from YouTube), so I assumed that was it.

(So we still don't have the original 18 March interview. If anyone has that downloaded, please send it to bill@projectavalon.net by WeTransfer.com (http://WeTransfer.com). THX.)
So, once again, this is definitively today's, the second time David was on London Real. :thumbsup: I've simply not had time today to listen to it at all.

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_6_April_2020.mp4

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_6_April_2020.mp4

[Mypos]

I almost watched it all. Its absolutely brilliant. A few important things. He says the Virus is a total hoax. He is totally on the Steiner/Bruce Lipton Path. 5G is creating the lung oxygen thing. The Cult has entered the room and the door clicked behind them. They have broken cover. So its a totally different game now. They scaled the game up but also got more visible.

You can hear Brian Rose at the end speaking his admiration for David. About the same as what i read today from Bill.

[Peter UK]

Wh would anybody want to take him out? His claim to fame is shape shifting royalty...lizards masquerading as humans. He doesn't have enough credibility to warrant assassination. If anything he has covered his ass by sounding completely crazy.

You DO have a point!

However, back in those days way back when, he was vilified in the British press and was made a laughing stock which gave him no credibility. THAT has changed significantly, to the point where he is now taken very seriously, talking to sell out crowds both here in the UK and abroad. Whether the royal family are reptilians or not, he perhaps more than anyone else has put the reptilian picture on the world stage and has brought it into the public consciousness.

The authorities that at one time felt that all that they needed was for the public perception of him to bring about his own undoing, now have a very real and perhaps to them, surprising and dangerous situation to deal with. He is an absolute thorn in the side of the establishment that they can no longer deal with adequately although I have no doubt they have tried.

[Mypos]

Wh would anybody want to take him out? His claim to fame is shape shifting royalty...lizards masquerading as humans. He doesn't have enough credibility to warrant assassination. If anything he has covered his ass by sounding completely crazy.

You DO have a point!

However, back in those days way back when, he was vilified in the British press and was made a laughing stock which gave him no credibility. THAT has changed significantly, to the point where he is now taken very seriously, talking to sell out crowds both here in the UK and abroad. Whether the royal family are reptilians or not, he perhaps more than anyone else has put the reptilian picture on the world stage and has brought it into the public consciousness.

The authorities that at one time felt that all that they needed was for the public perception of him to bring about his own undoing, now have a very real and perhaps to them, surprising and dangerous situation to deal with. He is an absolute thorn in the side of the establishment that they can no longer deal with adequately although I have no doubt they have tried.

Right. The interview from march got watched by 7 million people. Absolutely went viral. Most views for a London Real interview ever. And you can see it also that the interviews now got taken down twice from Youtube. So something is changing there too.

[Peter UK]

Wh would anybody want to take him out? His claim to fame is shape shifting royalty...lizards masquerading as humans. He doesn't have enough credibility to warrant assassination. If anything he has covered his ass by sounding completely crazy.

You DO have a point!

However, back in those days way back when, he was vilified in the British press and was made a laughing stock which gave him no credibility. THAT has changed significantly, to the point where he is now taken very seriously, talking to sell out crowds both here in the UK and abroad. Whether the royal family are reptilians or not, he perhaps more than anyone else has put the reptilian picture on the world stage and has brought it into the public consciousness.

The authorities that at one time felt that all that they needed was for the public perception of him to bring about his own undoing, now have a very real and perhaps to them, surprising and dangerous situation to deal with. He is an absolute thorn in the side of the establishment that they can no longer deal with adequately although I have no doubt they have tried.

Right. The interview from march got watched by 7 million people. Absolutely went viral. Most views for a London Real interview ever. And you can see it also that the interviews now got taken down twice from Youtube. So something is changing there too.

Yes!

The interview with him about not being taken out was actually a video on you tube that was taken down, not the audio version I linked to.

However I managed to save the actual video!

Next step, get it into the avalon library.

:)

[Matthew]

...
But a blood thirsty queen mother wandering around Buckingham palace dragging her scaley tail on the floor while sipping a cup of tea? I don't know. Don't think the powers that be would be threatened by this belief at all.:sun:
I see the humour. Details aside, and tongue not aside cheek, David Icke is only as dangerous as he is influential, which is still not very much in the typical population I am betting ...edit AutumnW is playing on Ickes perception from a normies point of view

[Peter UK]

...
But a blood thirsty queen mother wandering around Buckingham palace dragging her scaley tail on the floor while sipping a cup of tea? I don't know. Don't think the powers that be would be threatened by this belief at all.:sun:
I see the humour. Details aside, and tongue not aside cheek, David Icke is only as dangerous as he is influential, which is still not very much in the typical population I am betting ...edit AutumnW is playing on Ickes perception from a normies point of view

Yes, point taken and not lost even on a lot of admirers of his books.

Normal at the moment is changing rapidly by the hour. There's the rub and the opportunity that people like David Icke present to people to listen to something different.

[Tintin]

However I managed to save the actual video!

Next step, get it into the avalon library.

:)

YES! :thumbsup:

You know where i live :)

:focus:

[ExomatrixTV]

David Icke CONSPIRACY 06.04.20 THE CORONAVIRUS COVID-19. WILL IT SEIZE RIGHTS & DESTROY OUR ECONOMY?
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[AutumnW]

They scaled the game up but also got more visible.--Mypos


Ahhhh....just like the royal family..going back centuries.:dog:

[graciousb]

...
But a blood thirsty queen mother wandering around Buckingham palace dragging her scaley tail on the floor while sipping a cup of tea? I don't know. Don't think the powers that be would be threatened by this belief at all.:sun:
I see the humour. Details aside, and tongue not aside cheek, David Icke is only as dangerous as he is influential, which is still not very much in the typical population I am betting ...edit AutumnW is playing on Ickes perception from a normies point of view

Jimmy Savile (pedophile and necrophiliac among other things), and his bizarrely close relationship with the royal family, the child trafficking/pedophilia cases being exposed, Eyes Wide Shut, Kubrick death, Epstein killing, and the very obvious interconnection of power with perversion...raised his credibility a great deal. I don't agree with every single thing he says but the man has mad courage. Being shunned and widely ridiculed is one of the most painful things a human being can undergo, and he survived it. He has huge cojones and I really admire that.

[Kryztian]

The video is also (theoretically) available on the London Real website at
https://londonreal.tv/guest/david-icke/
However, it asks for your email and somehow mine would not verify. I managed to watch it on Facebook and it is still up (as of this writing)
https://www.facebook.com/LondonReal/?__tn__=kCH-R&eid=ARDTIWmKEqPZXdmhMLHURq0cdEr8UDlZct1ATGLSzdKcnPyHYMPBoEnCK-LS0V7d1MNY82XfLbAAawmU&hc_ref=ARTuNx6MJT3jggGzLnkKCAiKdAPHyS5UEcso6HnFo2epE-CxItxikQW0JKoF86_MQOc&ref=nf_target

[lunaflare]

I don't think we could have expected anything less from Mr Icke. It is hardly breaking news for anyone who is familiar with D.I's consistent eloquent perspective these past decades.

I was, however, suitably impressed by the dapper attire of the interviewer, Mr Rose, and how he managed to keep his life-sized oil painting portrait in the frame.

[Delight]

This is a well laid out talk about the 4th Reich (?) and Breakaway Civilization (?)... who benefits from the collapse of our system (?). The story we are living in is very layered.

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[greybeard]

Freedom of Speech - Just Watch What You Say - My Thoughts on YouTube Banning Our David Icke Episode


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJc3o89kic

[Adi]

I agree! It appears to me many have been, hearing, David Icke for a long time—many are now, listening, to David Icke. In my view, that is very profound.

[greybeard]

I agree! It appears to me many have been, hearing, David Icke for a long time—many are now, listening, to David Icke. In my view, that is very profound.
Yes Adi I agree with you.
Even now I can only fully accept some of what David says.
His talk in parts is like the script for a horror movie -- that does not make it untrue -- only harder to take in.
I can accept that there is agenda - that the scaremongering on the "Virus " has purpose -- that anti virus injections are to be avoided.
I find it hard to take on parts of his take on 5G ie then linking humans to AI.
Cant see "the fun" for them, in having a zombie population, no challenge.
What do I know!!!

I can see the deeper meaning behind the statement that nothing can take him out.
When you know for sure deep spiritual truth -- when the body expires is taken out but what you truly are, the eternal Self continues, untouched.
Everybody to my mind, should spend time investigating, finding Self within, not persona, not ego.
Thats what he is saying towards the end of the video.
Realize that you are eternal Self-- untouchable here or hereafter.
Chris

[David Trd1]

I watched the live stream. I’ve listened and read a lot of David Icke; but that was the most on-point, hard hitting, drawing the line in the sand, righteous anger I have maybe heard from anyone, ever. If that broadcast makes it mainstream, good luck to the ptb to keep this lockdown going much longer.

He was on fire, literally

[Bill Ryan]

Okay, after much confusion :) — we now have the original 18 March interview, here. My thanks to OmeyocaN777 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4580-OmeyocaN777). :highfive:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_18_March_2020.mp4

http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/David_Icke_on_London_Real_18_March_2020.mp4

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Watching from Cyprus]

Let's be fair here... David Icke was never wrong ... is there anyone else who even match this good fellow.. ?

I love him dearly and so should all of humanity, since he is the only one who figured out that this whole thing, is nothing that can be just dismissed, since the war going on, is a war for our collective souls. We must be strong together, us who have awaken, us who don't have to first figure out if we are left or right... Are we with David 100%, then we are together ... be ready and contactable.. The ones who laugh of David now, will not wake up, it too late, so don't waste time on them, not even if in your closest family. They will be the lost souls.

Long live David Icke.. Im with you Mate

[OmeyocaN777]

I believe we are dealing with a real virus here but with multiple agendas behind it (mostly economical) and this is my opinion. I respect David Icke greatly but this doesn't mean that I agree with whatever he says but certainly, I believe in a free-speech society and with this "banned" issue I'm 100% support him.

[ExomatrixTV]

@OmeyocaN777 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4580-OmeyocaN777)

You used the correct key-word: "believe" which often is a way to dismiss anything else that challenging that believe.

cheers,
John

[OmeyocaN777]

@OmeyocaN777 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?4580-OmeyocaN777)

You used the correct key-word: "believe" which often is a way to dismiss anything else that challenging that believe.

cheers,
John


You are right but not exactly....it's really too early for us to have a clear picture of what is goin' on with this virus agenda... but as usual, we join together our thoughts (connecting the dots) and soon we will have a better "view". This is what we are doing here on Avalon and this is our biggest weapon

[ExomatrixTV]

Video deleted from YouTube and now also Vimeo! (https://www.davidicke.com/article/567418/david-icke-live-london-real-today-330pm-uk) View the Bitchute version:


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[roguemoon]

well i walked away from this interview feeling stunned, utterly brilliant and i had to pause it at various points to follow up the info, all of it true. well done mr icke!

[ExomatrixTV]

⚠️ There are many types of researchers exposing the flaws of the "official narrative" pushed by Mainstream Media dealing with alleged "#5G Safety" AND The Truth about C0VID-19.

In the spectrum from "plausible" UP TO "extreme insane" theories ... I want to focus now only on the most "acceptable" possibility.

And nobody represents the whole of our #Stop5G Fb Group.

If just 1 scientist using the highest standards of integrity & (agenda free) honesty, not payed by anyone can PROVE 4G & 5G Cell Towers DO affect our immune-system, metabolism, changing our blood. THAT FACT ALONE IS ENOUGH to link much more people dying from common flu or any other virus that >> normally << would NEVER be called "pandemic". But now we are seeing the effects more SEVERE where 4G & 5G Cell Towers are.

Do you think this most plausible option is allowed by any MSM, Fact Checkers & Fb weaponized A.I. Censor Algorithms?

Now you understand WHY msm want to focus on a very one-dimensional narrow way what we do and HOW they misrepresent us all (generalizing) without studying our Legal Stop5G Fb Group Disclaimer! tinyurl.com/Stop5G-Disclaimer-4-MSM-and-Fb (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/tinyurl.com/Stop5G-Disclaimer-4-MSM-and-Fb)

Cheers, John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Founder Fb.com/groups/Stop5G (http://Fb.com/groups/Stop5G)
Stop5G.net (http://Stop5G.net) & Twitter.com/Stop5G (http://Twitter.com/Stop5G)

[ExomatrixTV]

⚠️ Planting Seeds of #Stop5G considerations 2020 ⚠️

Almost all countries top leaders have "scientific (health) advisors" that feed FEAR BASED (global) computer model of predictions to JUSTIFY draconian actions because of "dangerous consequences" if you do not do act precisely has they have tested it in SIMULATORS & Drills 2018 and 2019 aka #PlanDemic

What if they secretly ALSO have another "(global) computer model of predictions" dealing with the cumulative harmful effects of mass deploying 5G Technology especially tot the elderly & children but REFUSE to share that insight to the rest of the world and EXPLOIT that fore-knowledge to blame it on a viru$

That viru$ would have been there ANYWAY but now with extreme increase in 5G Towers everywhere you have much more people at risk! ... Meaning that C0vid19 can be everywhere even where there NO 5G cell towers but 4G + rise of so many other WiFi Microwave Transmitters attacking/weakening your immune-system 24/7. The increase has been explosive last decade ... undeniable we are now in a microwave soup of Non-Native Erratic Pulsed EMFs getting worse by the day!

Taking advantage of knowing there will be huge side-effects they need a COVER-STORY for to have NO RESISTANCE when mass deploying these #5G Cell Towers everywhere during lock-down.

On top of that they want to suspend the constitution to FORCE mandatory vaccines connected to #ID2020 RFID chip connected to "5G Surveillance Smart Grid"

Now because our human rights are thrown out of the window (based upon a SCAM) ... They (#PsychoTechnocrats) have no boundaries how far they can go with mass censorship ... A.I. Run "Social Credit System" (Chinese Model) connected to "universal basic income" in a cashless society coming soon?

Cheers, John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

#Stop5G vs 5G Tyranny Insight ⚠️

What if AFTER we all are getting used (conditioned) to the idea that military will also do (unconstitutional) "police work" for "the greater good" and using NEW #5G Tech like "Non-Lethal" Crowd Control weapons. Would that be "impossible" or predictable? Study this: tinyurl.com/5Gcrowdcontrol

When Unjust NWO (WHO) "Global Governance" (Medical) Tyranny becomes obvious to all ... they make sure that 5G is installed everywhere as soon as possible including from space! ... Study: tinyurl.com/WHO-5G-EMFs-CoverUp
(http://tinyurl.com/WHO-5G-EMFs-CoverUp)

DA9x2-dKmnk
cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳

[DeDukshyn]

#Stop5G vs 5G Tyranny Insight ⚠️

What if AFTER we all are getting used (conditioned) to the idea that military will also do (unconstitutional) "police work" for "the greater good" and using NEW #5G Tech like "Non-Lethal" Crowd Control weapons. Would that be "impossible" or predictable? Study this: tinyurl.com/5Gcrowdcontrol

When Unjust NWO (WHO) "Global Governance" (Medical) Tyranny becomes obvious to all ... they make sure that 5G is installed everywhere as soon as possible including from space! ... Study: tinyurl.com/WHO-5G-EMFs-CoverUp
(http://tinyurl.com/WHO-5G-EMFs-CoverUp)

DA9x2-dKmnk
cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳


WTF? That makes zero sense based on what the WHO told everyone already - that by the time you show symptoms, you've already been shedding the virus for many days ... If this virus is as contagious as they keep telling us ... wouldn't a family member have already spread it to their spouse or kids? I mean, just based on what they told us previously?

Removing those people then puts new and other people at risk - and where do they put them?

Does that guy think we're all stupid or something or is he counting on the fact that fear will render inert, most people's ability to think critically?

It literally makes zero ****ing sense.

This sounds like a plan to keep the virus spreading, not a plan to contain it.

[bettye198]

Did David talk again about the white hats taking out the pedo's? Because as much as I pray for that, it would seem way too monumental a task. It would be like surgically cutting out an large meningioma that twists and curls around so many vital areas. The perversity of it has gone for centuries, how could we know how far back entrenched in bloodlines? I know he is adamant about receiving info via the "alliance" but we know that is spurious. Thoughts?

[Tomkoyote]

Yep, that's step n+1 of plan and there are many more to come...

The first step was to sell the idea of a contagious virus and that there is an urgent need to isolate people to avoid mass contamination, and the cattle swallowed the whole enchiladas. If there was a real and contagious virus, half the population would show some kind of symptoms by now which is absolutely not the case.
This announcement that they will break the family apart by taking away any member that shows any symptoms is a step forward. This is how they will destroy people's spirit. If 3 people live under the same roof, they feel strong and energized; with 2 people under the same roof, there is less energy around, the mental is weaker, if one feels depressed the other is affected. A single person in an apartment is completely defenseless at the total mercy of the dictators.

There will be people dropping, yep; not because of the virus - this virus thing is a blatant hoax (it beats me how people can be so smart to still keep clinging to this myth today).
I'll tell you how they can make people drop like flies. Our food supply is loaded with nano particles, the air we have been breathing for decades is loaded of nano particles from chemtrails, nano particles are everywhere around us. Why do you think that have been bathing us in nano? Where do you think these particles are now? In our body self assembling and the body can't expel them; our body has become an EMF receptor, a mini emf tower. Give them a couple of months to finish installing 5G towers. Once 5G is turned on, then you'll see people dropping. The impact will depend on the frequency level. If they want to wipe out 10% of the population, they turn it to a certain level. To kill 20% turn it up a notch higher, and so on. Of course the first to go are those who have accumulated a high level of nanos. Didn't they hint there might be another wave in the near future???
And the brilliant minds will still be blaming Mr Corona, and the organizers will be laughing their head off at how easy it was to screw the cattle.

I was with a friend of mine yesterday who read on his cell phone (don't have one myself) that a tiger named Nadia in a zoo (i forgot where) caught the virus and is now in quarantine!!!
I suggested to post a comment back as joke, that's because the tiger was not wearing a mask and didn't practice social distancing.
A minute later I got the chill... it is a clear sign they are going to announce soon that pets now can get infected and owners should start isolating their pets.
Pretty convinced that the cattle will swallow this non sense with a smile and will bow and kneel. Have you ever seen HIV, SARS, Ebola or any virus jump from pets to humans or vice versa? Not me.
Another step forward!

[ExomatrixTV]

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[DeDukshyn]

#Stop5G vs 5G Tyranny Insight ⚠️

What if AFTER we all are getting used (conditioned) to the idea that military will also do (unconstitutional) "police work" for "the greater good" and using NEW #5G Tech like "Non-Lethal" Crowd Control weapons. Would that be "impossible" or predictable? Study this: tinyurl.com/5Gcrowdcontrol

When Unjust NWO (WHO) "Global Governance" (Medical) Tyranny becomes obvious to all ... they make sure that 5G is installed everywhere as soon as possible including from space! ... Study: tinyurl.com/WHO-5G-EMFs-CoverUp
(http://tinyurl.com/WHO-5G-EMFs-CoverUp)

DA9x2-dKmnk
cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳


WTF? That makes zero sense based on what the WHO told everyone already - that by the time you show symptoms, you've already been shedding the virus for many days ... If this virus is as contagious as they keep telling us ... wouldn't a family member have already spread it to their spouse or kids? I mean, just based on what they told us previously?

Removing those people then puts new and other people at risk - and where do they put them?

Does that guy think we're all stupid or something or is he counting on the fact that fear will render inert, most people's ability to think critically?

It literally makes zero ****ing sense.

This sounds like a plan to keep the virus spreading, not a plan to contain it.

Lol, you answered your own questions. 🙂

David has stated that they have moved from concealing the agenda to selling it. That’s where we are at, and it is a very strange space to be in for those who have been watching this unfold. Surreal actually.

And yes, most people are paralyzed with fear, and not thinking critically. Around me it’s about 98-99% paralysis. As this drags on, there will be a gradual awakening - in my estimation not enough. The next generation will pick up the pieces and carry on, if they can get past the mass trauma. The trauma from the great depression lasted the entire lifetime of my grandparents, and was passed on to my parents. For example my grandmother never threw out anything - she saved plastic bags, plastic and glass jars from the grocery store, stocked up on sale items at the grocery, ate apple cores, ate gristle off the bones. She passed away in her 80’s, but still scrounged around till her last days (I’m remembering fondly actually, god bless her).

My mother was a generation removed, but still carries the trauma (I’m still rebelling from that, by doing largely the opposite of how she lived - buying crap cheap food on sale for ex. - I only eat organic whole foods, farm raised).

Strap yourselves in. If you haven’t prepared spiritually, emotionally, physically -start now - there’s still plenty of time - but this is a completely new phase, it starts now, get ready. As David mentioned 2030 is kind of the key date that’s being pushed for total implementation. If the resistance has not coalesced by then - then it will be too late. But for now, we’ve got another decade. Start now.

As far as thinking critically, that is largely gone. Removed from the educational curriculum ( we skipped from grammar to rhetoric) logic has not been taught in schools for at least 50 years - systematically removed. My daughter was homeschooled, and got a nice dose of philosophy and logic, but we’re a couple generations away at least from repairing the damage that’s been done. I actually had to learn it in adulthood to help her figure out the curriculum needed. That’s just my sober assessment of what I’ve seen so far.

Haha! You are preaching to the choir, for sure; my questions where rhetorical :)

And yes I agree with all that you wrote. I'm in fact, extremely happy and impressed whenever I meet people that have critical thinking skills, a dying breed it would seem ...

The problem is how to resist. They want us to fight so they can make examples of us, and take us out - fighting always is a battle they will win - because they will make the battle between the indoctrinated and those not. They won't actually fight.

What we need to do is quietly reject their new technologies, and learn to be locally self sufficient. They are only in power because they control global economies. If we all focus entirely on building local economies and being self sufficient, learning to trust our whispering inner guidance, and stop consuming the crap they feed us that gives them more power.

If we do this and stop fighting, others will eventually see us thriving, and people who initially aren't on board, will say "I want to be like that" and that is how people will change. Its a tricky position and I don't think many people actually know what to do that will actually be effective. Being an example is a good start. :)

[greybeard]

Dont want to go off track but "they" are talking about a second wave of the virus.
To the best of my knowledge you dont get second waves of a virus --it comes it goes.
The worrying thing -- is the additional hospital space with accompanying mortuaries.
Anyway --where are they going to get staff for these facilities --the past Government starved the NHS of resources to train Nurses-- there is a shortage of everything.
Thanks to David Icke and those who saved the video.
Chris

[sunwings]

It seems David Icke may not have been the target...

Coronavirus: YouTube tightens rules after David Icke 5G interview

YouTube has banned all conspiracy theory videos falsely linking coronavirus symptoms to 5G networks.

The Google-owned service will now delete videos violating the policy. It had previously limited itself to reducing the frequency it recommended them in its Up Next section.

The move follows a live-streamed interview with conspiracy theorist David Icke on Monday, in which he had linked the technology to the pandemic.

YouTube said the video would be wiped.

During the interview, Mr Icke falsely claimed there "is a link between 5G and this health crisis".

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52198946

[seehas]

david icke what a brave soul, this man came here to do his task and he is doing it like a champ i take my hat off and maybe in future days there will be more humans like him living on the surface of the planet.

my personal belive is there will be a split in the human race, the virus will be one of many lies and finaly they will convince the "fear"humans to leave the surface of the planet and move "underground" all for safety reasons ofcourse.

this "fear"society will turn into a technocratic hive minded deep state, where free thinking is feared as much as the surface of the planet.

on the suface of the planet will be a human society that resisted the fear and turned towards love and truth - much of the technology was lost because of natural disasters a new start and you can be a part of it

chose your path as long as u still can

*just day dreaming :)*

[Bill Ryan]

To the best of my knowledge you dont get second waves of a virus --it comes it goes.


Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Spanish Flu Was So Deadly
https://history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence

[DeDukshyn]

Dont want to go off track but "they" are talking about a second wave of the virus.
To the best of my knowledge you dont get second waves of a virus --it comes it goes.
The worrying thing -- is the additional hospital space with accompanying mortuaries.
Anyway --where are they going to get staff for these facilities --the past Government starved the NHS of resources to train Nurses-- there is a shortage of everything.
Thanks to David Icke and those who saved the video.
Chris

Yes ... if it really can be caught again within weeks (as we have heard), that means there is something unusual about this virus - that your body cannot create a proper immunity to it; if we are to believe this.

If this virus is somehow "immune" to the antibodies that the body produces to fight it off, then why are people recovering? If they are "immune" to our antibodies, then why are they working on a vaccine? Wouldn't it be useless (considering a vaccine is used to promote the bodies production of specific anti-bodies)?

Perhaps there is more than one out there right now - and maybe that's why the disparity in symptoms and why you can "re-catch" it within weeks?

If a "second wave" was a slightly different virus, perhaps a more deadly one, or one with different characteristics, I would think that people might be fooled into just believing this was a 2nd "wave" was the exact same virus and so maybe not trying to "re-conclude" the initial findings ... a dangerous and scary thought. It would make a good plan, from the perspective of whosever plan this might be.

Also interesting to your second part there Chris, I watch this video this guy made that was showing official mainstream news reports about how NYC hospitals are in a "warzone" battling extreme outbreak of CV, they showed footage of them converting schools into mortuaries and temp ICU units, etc. The hospitals were overwhelmed, everyone is scrambling, "warzone" kept being repeated over and over etc. This was the news report.

Then he went down to one of the hospitals mentioned in the news report, and the parking lot was mostly empty ... no sign of any real activity. He went to the entrance, there was one security guard there.

"Is it a warzone in there? The hospital is overwhelmed, right?"
"mmm ... I don't know, its just normal" replied the guard.
"But you have thousands of CV patients in there don't you?"
"Maybe, I don't actually know of any" said the guard. "If you need to go in I have to test you for CV first."

Etc. They went around to a couple hospitals - it was the same everywhere. Definitely not a "warzone" (how insulting to native Iraqis and Syrians)

The video looks to be now pulled and has been removed from my watch history ... interesting in itself. I'm not saying CV is a hoax, I'm noting that the media is lying about some things to try to maximize the fear in the masses. That is apparent - especially when you see the same footage being used that showed how bad hospitals in Italy were, then the same footage used again to show how bad it is in the US . I now doubt the footage was actually even a real hospital to begin with.

Off topic, but interesting points for consideration. :)




They are starting to catch themselves in their own lies it would seem, or at best, they don't know ****, and are making stuff up as they go ...

[Metaphor]

Just a thought... IF 5g has a connection to the current outbreak, the increased implementation of 5g scheduled for autumn 2020 could be accompanied by "the" advertised 2nd wave of virus. Just a thought. Still on the fence regarding 5gconnection.
David Icke doesnt have to be right about everything, this could be a fallacy in his concluded hypothesis. Anyway his speech made my heart beat twice as fast. It was like wardrums.

[DeDukshyn]

Just a thought... IF 5g has a connection to the current outbreak, the increased implementation of 5g scheduled for autumn 2020 could be accompanied by "the" advertised 2nd wave of virus. Just a thought. Still on the fence regarding 5gconnection.
David Icke doesnt have to be right about everything, this could be a fallacy in his concluded hypothesis. Anyway his speech made my heart beat twice as fast. It was like wardrums.

I think 5G is needed for the military more than it is needed to give you the ability to load youtube videos 1 second faster. I think the connection might be in the timing.

[David Trd1]

well i walked away from this interview feeling stunned, utterly brilliant and i had to pause it at various points to follow up the info, all of it true. well done mr icke!

I concur! The only time I felt as energised, indignant, empowered and enlivened after such information/energy was when I read my first icke Book, it blew me away. Tales from the time loop I believe it was way back just after the Iraq invasion. 2004 ...the energy he communicates with is like “slapping people in the face with a wet fish shouting wake up wake up for the love of god wake up!!”

Wether you agree with what’s laid out here, the first hour in particular he threads things together and provides answers/working theories and logical suppositions for what he is communicating.

[Luke Holiday]

Dont want to go off track but "they" are talking about a second wave of the virus.
To the best of my knowledge you dont get second waves of a virus --it comes it goes.
The worrying thing -- is the additional hospital space with accompanying mortuaries.
Anyway --where are they going to get staff for these facilities --the past Government starved the NHS of resources to train Nurses-- there is a shortage of everything.
Thanks to David Icke and those who saved the video.
Chris


… agreed and if their is in fact a second wave, wouldn't this be more evidence for 5 G as a primary causative factor … Ie more towers/satelites coming on line and turning up the G....

[Luke Holiday]

…. Here is London Real explaining why Mr. Icke's video was permanently banned from You tube:

Brian Rose states the reason is " David Icke denied the existance of Covid 19"???? which he does not !!!!!

Brian adroitly points out that Mr. Icke merely articulated the inherent invalidity (bullXXXXness) of the testing, mildness of the sx's, low lethality, 5 G tie in, etc....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5rvQZgPphw



Mr Rose was so incensed by You Tubes official ban and therefore denial of Freedom of speech, that he has started his own video platform and will no longer be using You Tube to promote his London Real Videos

Oh and he stated that DI video was the second highest live stream in you tube history and is over 1,000,000 views in less then 24 hours ……


….And it was the truth that set us free …:)

Be well

Luke

[norman]

The Take Back Your Power website has the links for the April 6th Icke interview

https://www.takebackyourpower.net/david-icke-on-londonreal-6april2020/

I'd expect them, kinda, to be a good place to keep up with the alternatives as streams get blocked, too.

[Justplain]

By the way, medical scientists claim to have isolated covid-19, which puts a major hole in DI's theory:

https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?f=covid-19-isolated-2020&i=2069

[Luke Holiday]

Hello Mods: Please feel free to move this post to a more appropriate thread - if deemed worthy :)

Today Jon Rappoport reported on his NOMOREFAKENEWS blog;

by Jon Rappoport
April 7, 2020
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—No blanket assertions here. No claims that 5G technology “activates the virus.” No across-the-board answers. Instead, several key questions, and a few possible clues.

I have to set the context. As I’ve been emphasizing, what is being called COVID-19 is not one disease with one cause. It’s not one thing.

Instead, people with VARIOUS traditional diseases are being corralled, clustered, and counted by public health officials under ONE fake umbrella term, “COVID-19.”

I’ve also emphasized that in these fake-cluster situations, some people may be suffering from new conditions. For example, the effects of a vaccination campaign—which, by the way, was apparently carried out in a region of northern Italy prior to “the emergence of COVID.”

In this article, I have comments on 5G wireless technology—not as an all-inclusive explanation for “COVID”—but as a possible explanation for what several doctors are observing in some patients in New York and Italy.

What are they observing? Extreme shortness of breath, life threatening, but without the usual indicators of respiratory failure or failure of the lungs to operate. The lungs can operate. The patients are apparently suffering from straight oxygen deprivation. Lack of oxygen. As if they were suddenly thrust into high altitude.

Several doctors are saying these patients must be given oxygen through breathing ventilators—but not at high pressure, because that could damage the lungs and even cause death. Instead, the increase in oxygen must be gently accomplished.
For example, an ER doctor in Brooklyn has made a video in which he describes what he calls a new dire situation. His name is Cameron Kyle-Sidell. Watch the video and listen to what he says. He warns that incorrect use of breathing ventilators could be harming and killing patients.

https://www.youtube[dot]com/watch?v=1EWQPgF6-UQ
https://www.youtube[dot]com/watch?v=QWaq8HoEROU

In Italy, several doctors are asserting a very similar, or identical, situation: “Covid-19 Does Not Lead to a ‘Typical’ Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome,” by Luciano Gattinoni1, Silvia Coppola, Massimo Cressoni3, Mattia Busana, Davide Chiumello:
“However, the patients with Covid-19 pneumonia…present an atypical form of the syndrome.

Indeed, the primary characteristics we are observing (confirmed by colleagues in other hospitals), is the dissociation between their relatively well preserved lung mechanics and the severity of hypoxemia [abnormally low level of oxygen]…intubation [with breathing ventilators] should be prioritized to avoid excessive intrathoracic negative pressures and self-inflicted lung injury. After considering that, all we can do ventilating these patients is ‘buying time’ with minimum additional damage: the lowest possible PEEP [a method of ventilation in which airway pressure is maintained above atmospheric pressure] and gentle ventilation. We need to be patient.”
https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1164/rccm.202003-0817LE
—Patients who aren’t suffering from respiratory failure, whose lungs are functioning, who are experiencing straight oxygen deprivation. What could explain that?
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Here, from a 2001 rfglobalnet.com article, we may have a clue: “At the millimeter wave frequency of 60GHz, the absorption is very high, with 98 percent of the transmitted energy [from 5G waves] absorbed by atmospheric oxygen. While oxygen absorption at 60GHz severely limits range, it also eliminates interference between same frequency terminals.”
'
https://www.rfglobalnet.com/doc/fixed-wireless-communications-at-60ghz-unique-0001

In other words, a) 60GHz is a very good frequency band for 5G transmissions, and b) nearly all of the 5G energy is absorbed by oxygen. Suppose that is also true for oxygen in the human body?

When you hit oxygen molecules with 60 GHz millimeter wave emissions it affects the orbital properties of the electrons of the oxygen molecules. The 60 GHz range is known as the Oxygen Absorption Band. At 60GHz, 98% of electromagnetic energy is absorbed by O2. When 5G reaches the frequency band of 60 GHz, the ability for a person’s blood hemoglobin to bind with oxygen is hindered and this might explain, in part, why people in Wuhan just fall down dead in the streets, which is not a normal thing we see with viral infections.
( source Dr Sircus.com and many other articles on 5 G...)

What would be the effects of 5G transmissions on the body? Could these waves distort oxygen and/or its uptake by hemoglobin[which carries this vital element to cells of the body?

Could the impairment create a straight oxygen deprivation in the body—without structurally affecting the lungs themselves—creating the new condition described by the doctors I’ve cited above?

—Add to all this—the fact that 60GHz is an unlicensed frequency band, which means that telecomm companies can use it without paying very large fees they would pay for licensed bands.

Is 5G at 60GHz being deployed in New York, Italy, and Wuhan?

I should also add: these doctors ought to consider the use of hyperbaric oxygen chambers for their patients. The technicians, MDs, and researchers involved would need to be experts, and from what I’ve seen, not many are. Slap-dash formulaic use of hyperbaric oxygen won’t do. Harm could result. The apparatus itself is, of course, non-invasive.

doctors could consult with Dr. Paul Harch at hbot.com.


Another epic Blog from Mr. Rappoport!! I would like to add the following ideas:

1. We know that heavy metals in the body have the following effects on Hemoglobin and oxygen: Heavy metals bind to oxygen and hemoglobin in blood, lowering blood and tissue oxygen, causing lack of energy. The structure of hemoglobin is easily compromised by heavy metals


2. It has been firmly established that Chemtrails (and who knows what toxic soup of chemicals are in the Wuhan/Italian air) are made up of the heavy metals, Aluminum, Barium and strontium. Therefore, if 5 G destabilizes the cell into a detox reaction - this would push Heavy metals into the blood, further hindering hemogloban's ability to bind oxygen - leading to hypoxia (Lack of useable O2 in the body).

3. Suppose you combine the 60 Hz bandwidth effect on Hemoglobin/O2 with increased blood levels of Heavy Metals - now you have a very delicious recipe for hypoxia.

3. President Trump proposed using the drug : Hydroxychloroquine AKA PLAQUENIL to tx Covid 19. Plaquenil is pften used to tx malaria and it's proposed mechanism of action is:

The most accepted model is based on hydrochloroquinine and involves the inhibition of hemozoin biocrystallization, which facilitates the aggregation of cytotoxic heme (source Wikipedia)

In other words: Plaquenal would allow the body to get rid of damaged heme more quickly - thus preventing non oxygen binding Hemoglobin from being produced. Layman's terms: The drug would aid a patient who is suffering from hypoxia caused by damaged Hemoglobin.

4. Based on this Dot Connecting: Is POTUS providing a hint as to the cause/ treatement of Covid 19?


Blessing Luke

[Luke Holiday]

To the best of my knowledge you dont get second waves of a virus --it comes it goes.


Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Spanish Flu Was So Deadly
https://history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence


… could it be the same reason they are predicting the second wave of COVID 19 - A massive increase in the electromagnetic blanket of the earth...

1918 brought the introduction of radio waves to humanity. (Rsteiner, Dr Cowan).


Blessings Luke

[Luke Holiday]

By the way, medical scientists claim to have isolated covid-19, which puts a major hole in DI's theory:

https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?f=covid-19-isolated-2020&i=2069

…. Now the next step would be to prove that the isolated virus is in fact causing the symptom complex known as Covid 19 … this has not been done … and this is the problem...

[Luke Holiday]

It seems David Icke may not have been the target...

Coronavirus: YouTube tightens rules after David Icke 5G interview

YouTube has banned all conspiracy theory videos falsely linking coronavirus symptoms to 5G networks.

The Google-owned service will now delete videos violating the policy. It had previously limited itself to reducing the frequency it recommended them in its Up Next section.

The move follows a live-streamed interview with conspiracy theorist David Icke on Monday, in which he had linked the technology to the pandemic.

YouTube said the video would be wiped.

During the interview, Mr Icke falsely claimed there "is a link between 5G and this health crisis".

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52198946


… Looks like that is where the deep state draws the line on free speech …. Then that is where the truth must begin!


Be well

Luke

[greybeard]

Conspiracy theorists are seldom believed as they are full throttle, over the top, drama.
David Icke would have been even more believable if he had left 5G as a separate issue.
Give people what they can readily accept first i.e. that this virus is serious but no more deadly than the seasonal flu, which kills many. 5G a serious threat and should be stopped. That lockdown is excessive.
Just a question of selling the full truth to the general public bit by bit---Give them what they can digest first.
Dont give too much, dont give them what they are not ready to hear yet.
Its a question of educating -- tip toeing quickly towards the whole truth.
Just my thoughts.
Chris

[Bill Ryan]

By the way, medical scientists claim to have isolated covid-19, which puts a major hole in DI's theory:

https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?f=covid-19-isolated-2020&i=2069Well, different strains of the virus have been sequenced, which was first done by the Chinese themselves. There are many medical papers on this, easily found.

David and Jon Rappoport are both stating that the disease (Covid-19) is really just a conveniently and loosely named collection of symptoms. But that's simply not the case.

If that was the case, it wouldn't be infectious in the way it clearly is: consider how it spreads from country to country, including to countries where there's no 5G. And the growth wouldn't be following an exponential curve, which all viral infections follow if their R0 is greater than 1.

And of course, viruses are infectious: look up the history of smallpox. (And the history of viruses that have been weaponized.)

There's plenty that's fishy about the entire scenario (including a lot of media hype, the Chinese numbers, and all the Cui Bono? questions) — but the reality of the virus isn't.

The problem here is that so many different issues are getting scrambled up together. That's not helpful.

Conflating the very real Cui Bono? questions with claims about 5G and that the virus "isn't real" is dangerous and confusing, because that simply makes the really important and justified questions seem ludicrous.

[Bill Ryan]

This thread (and David's latest presentation) is largely about 5G, so I'm moving it to that section. :thumbsup: I think that's where it might best belong.

It's also about the New World Order (of course), and his latest 6 April London Real interview could also be posted there.

[Luke Holiday]

By the way, medical scientists claim to have isolated covid-19, which puts a major hole in DI's theory:

https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?f=covid-19-isolated-2020&i=2069

Well, different strains of the virus have been sequenced, which was first done by the Chinese themselves. There are many medical papers on this, easily found.

David and Jon Rappoport are both stating that the disease (Covid-19) is really just a conveniently and loosely named collection of symptoms. But that's simply not the case.

If that was the case, it wouldn't be infectious in the way it clearly is: consider how it spreads from country to country, including to countries where there's no 5G. And the growth wouldn't be following an exponential curve, which all viral infections follow if their R0 is greater than 1.

And of course, viruses are infectious: look up the history of smallpox. (And the history of viruses that have been weaponized.)

There's plenty that's fishy about the entire scenario (including a lot of media hype, the Chinese numbers, and all the Cui Bono? questions) — but the reality of the virus isn't.

The problem here is that so many different issues are getting scrambled up together. That's not helpful.

Conflating the very real Cui Bono? questions with claims about 5G and that the virus "isn't real" is dangerous and confusing, because that simply makes the really important and justified questions seem ludicrous.

Hello Bill,

I just couldn’t sleep and thought I would engage in a friendly and very respectful debate regarding the following post. I do so in the hope of expanding my knowledge on the subjects, gaining greater clarity and adding something to the discussion.

1,Well, different strains of the virus have been sequenced, which was first done by the Chinese themselves. There are many medical papers on this, easily found.

Agreed, but the problem is: The causation of the symptom complex has not been proven because the proper testing has not been done (or cannot be found)

2. David and Jon Rappoport are both stating that the disease (Covid-19) is really just a conveniently and loosely named collection of symptoms. But that's simply not the case.

I think both Mr. Icke and Mr. Rappoport are using a moniker of symptom complex because the testing methods for Covid 19 have not proven to be reliable or valid (several sources).

Also, the vast majority of those being labeled as dying from Covid 19 had multiple co-morbities which, more than likely, had a greater significance in causing the death.

Interestingly, the media has been consistently reporting someone of interest dying from the “pandemic” by using the misleading term “…Died after testing positive for Covid 19 virus - not that they died from the Covid 19 Virus.

3. If that was the case, it wouldn't be infectious in the way it clearly is: consider how it spreads from country to country, including to countries where there's no 5G. And the growth wouldn't be following an exponential curve, which all viral infections follow if their R0 is greater than 1.

[I]After looking at the stats from Wikipedia for April deaths from CV 19 one can see a direct correlation with 5 G in terms of the countries with least 5 G influence having the least number of deaths and the largest having the larger number of deaths.

Also, it should be noted that 5G is blanketing the planet with satellite influence: hence the low number of 5G mast tower countries are still getting exposed to a watered down version of the radiation.

I]The expontential bell curve can be explained by the 5G theory as the population’s bodies adjusting to the 5 G bandwidth. Just as they did with prior major changes to the Earth’s electricmagnetic frequency.


And of course, viruses are infectious: look up the history of smallpox. (And the history of viruses that have been weaponized.)

I also believe virus can be infectious and would welcome a source on weaponized viruses as I am unfamiliar with this subject.

[B]There's plenty that's fishy about the entire scenario (including a lot of media hype, the Chinese numbers, and all the Cui Bono? questions) — but the reality of the virus isn't.

[I]I agree that there is a virus – but the question remains – Is this specific strain of corona virus causing the symptom complex being seen in medical facilities. More importantly are those patients that have been reported as dying from this virus - actually dying from this virus.

The only way this question can be answered is by performing the proper tests done in the proper manner – this is not being done, therefore the CDC CV 19 death statistics are at best: not to be trusted and more likely to be meaningless.

The problem here is that so many different issues are getting scrambled up together. That's not helpful.

Conflating the very real Cui Bono? questions with claims about 5G and that the virus "isn't real" is dangerous and confusing, because that simply makes the really important and justified questions seem ludicrous.

Personally Bill, I am not reading that people believe there isn’t a real virus (albeit not real in the way you are convinced that it is) rather, I am reading that they believe that 5G is likely a primary factor in what is causing the symptom complex of far less then 1% of the global population in terms of cases and deaths. (and that is using tests that are not reliable or valid.)

Well that’s it – time to try and sleep – I hope when I wake up from this nightmare will be over. 😊

Blessings

Luke

[ExomatrixTV]

Not So Trusted Voices #PlanDemic
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[Violet3]

Agree with you Luke, very well said.
I thought David's presentation was extremely lucid (as well as deeply felt) and carefully argued rather than dangerous. I tend to now think that there is probably a 5G connection, and I have also been following Jon Rappaport whose questions about this seemed very pertinent given the reported effect of 5G on oxygen in the human body.
The fact that DI is now being censored suggests to me also that he is getting too close to the facts.
He also at the end concurs with what Catherine Fitts and others state, that this is an escalated spiritual battle we are facing as a species, and not just a material one e.g. over a virus or whatever may be threatening our health. It seems a lot more people are at least listening thanks to people like David.

[ClearWater]

By the way, medical scientists claim to have isolated covid-19, which puts a major hole in DI's theory:

https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?f=covid-19-isolated-2020&i=2069Well, different strains of the virus have been sequenced, which was first done by the Chinese themselves. There are many medical papers on this, easily found.

David and Jon Rappoport are both stating that the disease (Covid-19) is really just a conveniently and loosely named collection of symptoms. But that's simply not the case.

If that was the case, it wouldn't be infectious in the way it clearly is: consider how it spreads from country to country, including to countries where there's no 5G. And the growth wouldn't be following an exponential curve, which all viral infections follow if their R0 is greater than 1.

And of course, viruses are infectious: look up the history of smallpox. (And the history of viruses that have been weaponized.)

There's plenty that's fishy about the entire scenario (including a lot of media hype, the Chinese numbers, and all the Cui Bono? questions) — but the reality of the virus isn't.

The problem here is that so many different issues are getting scrambled up together. That's not helpful.

Conflating the very real Cui Bono? questions with claims about 5G and that the virus "isn't real" is dangerous and confusing, because that simply makes the really important and justified questions seem ludicrous.


I'm quoting your post in hopes of getting clarification on a few points, from anyone willing to assist that may have more clarity on this than I do.

David and Jon Rappoport are both stating that the disease (Covid-19) is really just a conveniently and loosely named collection of symptoms. But that's simply not the case.
Is that what they're claiming? Or are they claiming that those with the purported symptoms of Covid-19 are being said to have Covid-19 without any accurate way of testing and verifying it is actually the cause of the symptoms? This is a genuine question, as I've not been following Jon at all, and haven't heard David say this.

If that was the case, it wouldn't be infectious in the way it clearly is: consider how it spreads from country to country, including to countries where there's no 5G. And the growth wouldn't be following an exponential curve, which all viral infections follow if their R0 is greater than 1.
And of course, viruses are infectious: look up the history of smallpox. (And the history of viruses that have been weaponized.)
Without a trustworthy test for Covid-19, how can any of the numbers related to it be reliably cited? There may very well be an exponential curve, but I don't feel I can trust any of the numbers being shared so far. How am I supposed to get past this hurdle?

I feel like I'm being asked to create a budget without any idea of how much money I have to work with. There's clearly money available, but I'm getting conflicting reports about how it's being counted, and therefore I don't trust any of the numbers provided to me. I essentially need to make a (somewhat educated) guess, and act based upon that. But regardless of how I end up allocating my resources, I will have very little confidence that my budget aligns with reality.

[Luke Holiday]

By the way, medical scientists claim to have isolated covid-19, which puts a major hole in DI's theory:

https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?f=covid-19-isolated-2020&i=2069

Well, different strains of the virus have been sequenced, which was first done by the Chinese themselves. There are many medical papers on this, easily found.

David and Jon Rappoport are both stating that the disease (Covid-19) is really just a conveniently and loosely named collection of symptoms. But that's simply not the case.

If that was the case, it wouldn't be infectious in the way it clearly is: consider how it spreads from country to country, including to countries where there's no 5G. And the growth wouldn't be following an exponential curve, which all viral infections follow if their R0 is greater than 1.

And of course, viruses are infectious: look up the history of smallpox. (And the history of viruses that have been weaponized.)

There's plenty that's fishy about the entire scenario (including a lot of media hype, the Chinese numbers, and all the Cui Bono? questions) — but the reality of the virus isn't.

The problem here is that so many different issues are getting scrambled up together. That's not helpful.

Conflating the very real Cui Bono? questions with claims about 5G and that the virus "isn't real" is dangerous and confusing, because that simply makes the really important and justified questions seem ludicrous.

Hello Bill,

I just couldn’t sleep and thought I would engage in a friendly and very respectful debate regarding the following post. I do so in the hope of expanding my knowledge on the subjects, gaining greater clarity and adding something to the discussion.

1,Well, different strains of the virus have been sequenced, which was first done by the Chinese themselves. There are many medical papers on this, easily found.

Agreed, but the problem is: The causation of the symptom complex has not been proven because the proper testing has not been done (or cannot be found)

2. David and Jon Rappoport are both stating that the disease (Covid-19) is really just a conveniently and loosely named collection of symptoms. But that's simply not the case.

I think both Mr. Icke and Mr. Rappoport are using a moniker of symptom complex because the testing methods for Covid 19 have not proven to be reliable or valid (several sources).

Also, the vast majority of those being labeled as dying from Covid 19 had multiple co-morbities which, more than likely, had a greater significance in causing the death.

Interestingly, the media has been consistently reporting someone of interest dying from the “pandemic” by using the misleading term “…Died after testing positive for Covid 19 virus - not that they died from the Covid 19 Virus.

3. If that was the case, it wouldn't be infectious in the way it clearly is: consider how it spreads from country to country, including to countries where there's no 5G. And the growth wouldn't be following an exponential curve, which all viral infections follow if their R0 is greater than 1.

[I]After looking at the stats from Wikipedia for April deaths from CV 19 one can see a direct correlation with 5 G in terms of the countries with least 5 G influence having the least number of deaths and the largest having the larger number of deaths.

Also, it should be noted that 5G is blanketing the planet with satellite influence: hence the low number of 5G mast tower countries are still getting exposed to a watered down version of the radiation.

I]The expontential bell curve can be explained by the 5G theory as the population’s bodies adjusting to the 5 G bandwidth. Just as they did with prior major changes to the Earth’s electricmagnetic frequency.


And of course, viruses are infectious: look up the history of smallpox. (And the history of viruses that have been weaponized.)

I also believe virus can be infectious and would welcome a source on weaponized viruses as I am unfamiliar with this subject.

[B]There's plenty that's fishy about the entire scenario (including a lot of media hype, the Chinese numbers, and all the Cui Bono? questions) — but the reality of the virus isn't.

[I]I agree that there is a virus – but the question remains – Is this specific strain of corona virus causing the symptom complex being seen in medical facilities. More importantly are those patients that have been reported as dying from this virus - actually dying from this virus.

The only way this question can be answered is by performing the proper tests done in the proper manner – this is not being done, therefore the CDC CV 19 death statistics are at best: not to be trusted and more likely to be meaningless.

The problem here is that so many different issues are getting scrambled up together. That's not helpful.

Conflating the very real Cui Bono? questions with claims about 5G and that the virus "isn't real" is dangerous and confusing, because that simply makes the really important and justified questions seem ludicrous.

Personally Bill, I am not reading that people believe there isn’t a real virus (albeit not real in the way you are convinced that it is) rather, I am reading that they believe that 5G is likely a primary factor in what is causing the symptom complex of far less then 1% of the population in terms of cases and deaths. (and that is using tests that are not reliable or valid.)

Well that’s it – time to try and sleep – I hope sometime soon I (we) can wake up from this nightmare 😊

Blessings

Luke


… on interesting thing I have found are stories of mass animal deaths in 2020.

MASS ANIMAL DEATH LIST - 2020 95 Known MASS Death Events in 40 Countries (or Territory)
NOTE: Due to time constraints, we no longer report every event, so the numbers are lower than they should be.
27th March 2020 - Swarms of bats drop dead from sky in Israel. Link
24th March 2020 - Thousands of dead fish found washed up on a beach in Pariaman, Indonesia. Link
23rd March 2020 - Dozens of dead birds found on road in Trois Mares, Reunion. Link
23rd March 2020 - 23,000 pigs killed due to swine fever in Western Poland. Link
22nd March 2020 - Thousands of dead fish wash up on a beach in Bireuen, Indonesia. Link
21st March 2020 - 10 dead turtles found washed up on beaches in Alvarado and Boca del R�o, Mexico. Link
16th March 2020 - 12,000 quail dead due to avian flu in Philippines. Link
16th March 2020 - Massive die off of fish washes up in Algeciras, Spain. Link
11th March 2020 - Thousands of dead fish wash up in a marina in Windsor, Canada. Link
11th March 2020 - 120 birds fall dead from sky, 'a mystery' in Triboltingen, Switzerland. Link
10th March 2020 - 100+ dead bats found, causing panic in Kozhikode, India. Link
9th March 2020 - 86 dead dolphins found on a beach in Namibia. Link
9th March 2020 - Hundreds of water birds found dead on Waikawa and Kuku beaches in New Zealand. Link
5th March 2020 - 137,000 birds killed due to avian flu in Vietnam. Link
5th March 2020 - 50 TONS of fish dead due to drought in Lake Metztitlan, Mexico. Link
5th March 2020 - Hundreds of dead fish wash up in a lagoon in Quillon, Chile. Link
4th March 2020 - 3,500 dead birds and hundreds of dead eels found in the waterways of Coromandel Peninsula, New Zealand. Link
4th March 2020 - Large die off of fish in the waterways of Kaohsiung City, Taiwan. Link
4th March 2020 - 600 dead vultures found, cause unknown, in Guinea-Bissau. Link
4th March 2020 - 77,000 salmon die in a salmon farm in Newfoundland, Canada. Link
3rd March 2020 - 1,000+ dead birds found in Sikeston, Missouri, America. Link
2nd March 2020 - 55,700 livestock dead due to cold weather in Northwestern Mongolia. Link
28th February 2020 - 3,000 pigs dead due to swine fever in Indonesia. Link
27th February 2020 - 10 TONS of fish dead in Lake Maninjau, Indonesia. Link
27th February 2020 - Hundreds of dead fish, 'a mystery' in North Maluku, Indonesia. Link
26th February 2020 - Hundreds of thousands of poultry killed due to avian flu in Vietnam. Link
26th February 2020 - 100+ dead birds found along road in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, America. Link
26th February 2020 - 670 dead dolphins washed up this year along coast of France. Link
25th February 2020 - Dozens of dead birds again found in North Wales. Link
25th February 2020 - 8 dead turtles found washed up in Northern Taiwan. Link
24th February 2020 - Thousands of dead fish due to drought, an 'ecological disaster' in Metztitlan, Mexico. Link
19th February 2020 - Hundreds of thousands of dead mussles wash up on beach in Maunganui Bluff, New Zealand. Link

I see the links are not transferring: here is the link from the webside where I pilfered this list:

http://end-times-prophecy.org/animal-deaths-birds-fish-end-times.html


… to be fair/ thorough... one needs to coordinate these numbers with prior years …. but each of the links are reporting dramatic spikes in the number dead....

The question I have is - how plausible/probable are these increased animal deaths related to (or caused by) a dramatic increase/change in our planets electromagnetic frequency coverage … caused by turning on 5 G.


I would very much like to see the data relating to when the switch was turned - and when these deaths occurred.


Be well

Blessings

Luke

[AutumnW]

Rappoport is playing on your suspicions of mainstream media, pharmeceutical industry, government, etc...We have every right to be suspicious. The problem is he is trying to clear the slate and insert his own alternate reality....and that is exactly what it is. This is a money making venture for him. Please try not to be jerked around by shysters.

I can tell you from personal experience that I ignore 5g whenever I see anything about it now and that is because the information about it has been tarnished by association.

If there is a 'master plan' might it be to inject questionable information (along with valid info) into the alt right community and have them run with it, exaggerate it, and then extrude the whole mess through their imaginations, while calling it solid logic? What does this accomplish? It turns people OFF. It doesn't wake them up AT ALL.

[norman]

Rappoport is playing on your suspicions of mainstream media, pharmeceutical industry, government, etc...We have every right to be suspicious. The problem is he is trying to clear the slate and insert his own alternate reality....and that is exactly what it is. This is a money making venture for him. Please try not to be jerked around by shysters.

I can tell you from personal experience that I ignore 5g whenever I see anything about it now and that is because the information about it has been tarnished by association.

If there is a 'master plan' might it be to inject questionable information (along with valid info) into the alt right community and have them run with it, exaggerate it, and then extrude the whole mess through their imaginations, while calling it solid logic? What does this accomplish? It turns people OFF. It doesn't wake them up AT ALL.

If you are talking about the academic material you may have a point ( I wouldn't know, I hardly ever read it ), but if you're talking about the people watching kinda common sense, you are missing the board, never mind the bulls eye.

Try who's doing what, instead of who's saying what, just for a day or two. You might find it cerebrally liberating in a successful enough way to never want to go back to the old stuff again.

The luxury of ignoring 5G won't last much longer by the way. You better be right.

My non academic brain does struggle with pairing mm waves with parts of the body that are at least a thousand times smaller than that, but when I hear someone mention a so called scientific paper that explains how mm waves can stop the absorption of oxygen, that sure gets my attention. If that could be true, I'm completely on board with an absolute all out war against 5G.

[Bill Ryan]

Brian Rose, who owns London Real and who interviewed David Icke on 18 March and 6 April, was on with Alex Jones just now. The banned.video of that segment of the show will be uploaded soon, but in the interim here's the audio. Recommended. :thumbsup:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_(Wuhan_2019-nCov)/Brian_Rose_with_Alex_Jones_8_April_2020.mp3

[Bill Ryan]

Alex Jones has uploaded the latest 6 April David Icke London Real interview to banned.video.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e8e28ed1f333e003a33793b

5e8e28ed1f333e003a33793b

[Cardillac]

David Icke's last two interviews on LondonReal have been removed from YouTube- thank God someone has saved them-

Larry-






From Bill: Yes, quite a lot of this thread has been about that.

[Philippe]

I can tell you from personal experience that I ignore 5g whenever I see anything about it now and that is because the information about it has been tarnished by association.

.

AutumnW you have a non optimal way of doing inquiries. I have a tendency of doing some testing on other topics and recently on the 'Strangeness of the California fires". Everybody can go there and see how you brought that inquiry to a standstill by accepting the condemnation of the utility company PG&E. All anomalies of the fires were well buried by doing that. A truly inquiring mind would have asked f.i. about the possibility that the smart meters in the burned down houses exploded or not. To mention only one anomaly.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's London Real's Brian Rose, talking yesterday with Alex Jones about his 6 April interview with David Icke, and the implications of that video having immediately having been removed from YouTube.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e8e6523e89f06006939a7c7

5e8e6523e89f06006939a7c7

[anandacate]

Andrew Kaufman, M.D., explains, in great detail using graphics, the COVID-19 RT-PCR Test, exosomes that occur naturally in the body, and begins with how the whole thing got started in China.

Dr. Kaufman's information is some of the background information David Icke used for his video. Excellent video (38:17) to gain an in-depth understanding of what is happening from a medical science view, IMHO.

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[Cardillac]

Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com has defamed David Icke- what Mike Adams has obviously not researched but David Icke most probably has (he's mentioned the concept of exomosers if I recall the term correctly of which concept Adams obviously hasn't researched); in any case check out the following if you have the time and interest about what is probably behind the "official story" of Corona- very informative source- picked this up on Joseph Farrell's website- 1 hr./20 minutes but it's well worth the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWRbIIaPV78&list=LLq7jBKI0WDZTMJapcFOQCEw&index=3&t=0s

starts out slowly but gets more interesting the longer it goes on- Adams' fear-porn has gone off the deep end and I've unsubscribed to his website-

please be well all-

Larry

[Luke Holiday]

Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com has defamed David Icke- what Mike Adams has obviously not researched but David Icke most probably has (he's mentioned the concept of exomosers if I recall the term correctly of which concept Adams obviously hasn't researched); in any case check out the following if you have the time and interest about what is probably behind the "official story" of Corona- very informative source- picked this up on Joseph Farrell's website- 1 hr./20 minutes but it's well worth the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWRbIIaPV78&list=LLq7jBKI0WDZTMJapcFOQCEw&index=3&t=0s

starts out slowly but gets more interesting the longer it goes on- Adams' fear-porn has gone off the deep end and I've unsubscribed to his website-

please be well all-

Larry

… the exposure of exosomes at this time - is the natural extension of the most recent research coming out in the science of virology...

Perhaps someone can send Mr. Adams some the peer reviewed medical/viral journal articles and or videos which reference them.

[Bill Ryan]

Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com has defamed David Icke

Larry, what's the reference? Thanks.

Update: I found the article:


https://naturalnews.com/2020-04-09-new-brain-damaging-disease-stupid-19-coronavirus-hoax.html

New brain-damaging disease “Stupid-19” makes people think the coronavirus is a HOAX

9 April, 2020

The independent media has been afflicted with a dangerous new contagion that I’m calling “Stupid-19.” It’s characterized by people who believe viruses aren’t real and that, in their view, all the covid-19 deaths around the globe have been faked in order to trick the public.

Conspiracy analyst David Icke has now emerged as the poster child for Stupid-19. In a popular new interview, David Icke claims all the following bizarre things:


That there is no covid-19 virus.
That PCR gene analysis technology doesn’t work.
That all the deaths would have happened anyway, but are being re-categorized as covid-19 through some grand conspiracy involving tens of thousands of doctors, nurses and coroners.
That all healthy cells in healthy people excrete covid-19-like virus material when stressed, which is why covid-19 tests keep finding covid-19.
That ANYONE can “test positive” for covid-19 since the test only spots routine genetic material that’s found in the body of every living person.
That doctors can ramp up or ramp down the number of infections they want to find by simply altering the PCR replication of genetic material in test samples.

According to Icke, all the 100+ nations around the world have faked their own economic collapse scenarios, faked all the cremations of dead bodies and rigged lockdowns for no reason in order to pull off some sort of global prank.

Icke claims covid-19 is actually being caused by 5G cell towers alone. This is unfortunate since 5G exposure may be a co-factor in the loss of structure and function of hemoglobin molecules in red blood cells (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-06-5g-alter-hemoglobin-coronavirus-patients-oxygen-deprivation.html), but that’s only a co-factor. 5G alone cannot explain the exponential spread of the coronavirus which almost perfectly follows the spread pattern of a transmissible infectious pathogen.

Watch my video below, explaining the rise of #Stupid-19 across the independent media.

https://brighteon.com/embed/48225374-32e7-4fb9-a0a5-39f65d4ef006

David Icke is now infecting the independent media with horribly wrong disinformation that defies logic and reason

Sadly, David Icke not only embarrasses himself with Stupid-19 theories that defy rationality, by extension he mocks those across the independent media who have now embraced his views. It’s almost as if the pro-Trump indy media has lost two hundred years of scientific knowledge and now no longer believes in the germ theory. It is no coincidence that many of these same people also quite literally believe the Earth is flat. (Not a joke, they really do.)

As much as I am criticized by mainstream media for questioning the safety of vaccine ingredients (which really can be dangerous), it turns out that I’m actually among the most science-educated persons in independent media, and I find myself now arguing with others in the industry who can’t solve basic math problems and don’t understand the difference between atomic elements, molecules, proteins and chromosomes.

To them, it’s all one giant mish-mash of foreign concepts, which is why David Icke manages to gather an audience of similarly science-illiterate people who think that what he’s saying makes sense.

I don’t think David Icke should be censored, mind you. Everybody should have the right to speak (including myself, and I’m the most censored pro-science voice in the world), but the only reason Icke has an audience on this subject is because the masses of illiterate people also suffer from Stupid-19.

If basic science education were more widespread in America, Icke would be largely ignored, and the guy who interviewed him — Brian Rose of LondonReal.tv — wouldn’t have allowed his platform to be used to spread horribly wrong disinformation that will quite literally lead to people being killed by complacency.

Interestingly, Brian Rose has also interviewed Neil Degrasse-Tyson, who no doubt would vehemently disagree with David Icke’s claim that viruses aren’t real and that covid-19 isn’t caused by an infectious disease at all. Yet during the interview with David Icke, Brian Rose didn’t challenge Icke’s bizarro worldview.

He let Icke roll out extremely bad misinformation grounded in science illiteracy without halting him with basic questions like, “If the virus isn’t real, then why did China enforce draconian quarantine measures that nearly destroyed its domestic economy in order to stop the spread of the virus?”

Apparently, David Icke believes that China, Iran, Italy, Spain, France, Taiwan, Singapore, Australia, Canada, the UK, the United States and nearly a hundred other countries all got together and simultaneously agreed to run a global lockdown hoax and destroy their own domestic economies as part of a worldwide hoax.

That’s literally what he believes. Such a belief is insane. There is no scenario under which all those countries would shake hands and agree to destroy their own domestic economies for a hoax.

No choice but to denounce such views as insane and dangerous

Today, I must denounce David Icke and anyone else who claims the coronavirus is a hoax. Anyone spouting such nonsense deserves to be ignored (not censored, but rationally rejected by the rest of us).

The latest theory of Stupid-19 claims that none of the covid-19 deaths are real because the people who died had underlying health conditions. Therefore, the narrative goes, nobody really died from covid-19. That’s insane. Nearly everybody who dies from any cause has underlying health conditions.

People who die from cancer also typically have cardiovascular issues or blood sugar problems. People who die of pneumonia often have hypertension or early stage cancer. Almost nobody just dies in perfect health except by accidents. Yet according to the Stupid-19 promoters, anyone who had an underlying health condition at all must not be counted as dying from covid-19.

That’s not an argument. It’s just a demonstration of Stupid-19.

A similar argument is that, “Those people would have died anyway.” But that’s true for everyone, all the time. Everybody is going to die anyway. The real question is what killed them today? And right now covid-19 is the No. 1 cause of death in America on a day-to-day basis. Yet because of people like David Icke, a very large number of independent media followers are convinced it’s all fake.

That encourages them to avoid wearing masks or washing hands, thereby encouraging the further spread of the infections that are getting people killed by the thousands each day in America alone.

David Icke and other pandemic denialists are complicit in the deaths of these people. They share the responsibility for those deaths.

LondonReal (Brian Rose) is also complicit in these deaths, in my opinion. If Brian Rose had any ethics at all, he would not allow his platform to be used to spread the kind of dangerous disinformation that literally gets people killed.

He should have stopped David Icke at the statement, “There is no virus” and challenged him on that point. (Rose is no idiot. He’s highly educated and he knows David Icke is spewing nonsense. But Rose is enjoying the sudden spike in popularity, which means he’s interviewing David Icke basically as a form of “video click bait.”)

I also find it highly disturbing that InfoWars is lending a platform to both David Icke and Brian Rose, furthering their spread of dangerous disinformation that threatens public health.

I’m a fill-in host on InfoWars, and each time I appear, I use the time to attempt to educate InfoWars listeners about the scientific principles that are clearly at work with this pandemic, yet I find that nearly all the other guests (and many hosts) are pandemic denialists with no scientific education whatsoever. I’m fighting against a tidal wave of ignorance, and it is increasingly obvious that the effort is pointless.

Stupid-19 is very real and very dangerous. Stupid-19 isn’t caused by a virus, but it is caused by stupid people opening their mouths and spouting brain-damaged theories rooted in a stunning lack of basic science education. It’s time that someone from independent media spoke out against the Stupid-19 phenomenon and stated the obvious. That person, it appears, is me.

Let the attacks against me commence. I’m used to it. But I’ve got logic, reason and the facts on my side, and I’m not bending my beliefs just to conform to a group of incredible ill-informed individuals whose dangerous disinformation is truly a clear and present danger to public health.

I’m not in favor of censorship, but I do think we should exercise discernment. And David Icke’s bizarre, wrongheaded theory about covid-19 should be rejected by all free-thinking individuals. Any who follow David Icke’s wrongheaded beliefs may not only risk their own safety, they may also place others at risk as well.

But the self-reinforcing delusions of David Icke allow him to say none of those deaths are his fault, since he believes all the deaths are being faked in the first place. As people are dying by the thousands, Icke excuses his own role in furthering those deaths by claiming it’s all a grand global conspiracy to silence people like him.

This is a sad day for the independent media and a sad day for humanity. It’s a sad day for me personally, too, because I had no choice but to publish this denouncement, even knowing it would result in me being widely criticized by those who follow Icke. David Icke has had many fine moments of analysis throughout his career, and he was brilliant on 9/11. But he’s insane when it comes to covid-19 and infectious disease.

David Icke and Brian Rose owe the world an apology.

[Luke Holiday]

Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com has defamed David Icke

Larry, what's the reference? Thanks.

Update: I found the article:


https://naturalnews.com/2020-04-09-new-brain-damaging-disease-stupid-19-coronavirus-hoax.html

New brain-damaging disease “Stupid-19” makes people think the coronavirus is a HOAX

9 April, 2020

The independent media has been afflicted with a dangerous new contagion that I’m calling “Stupid-19.” It’s characterized by people who believe viruses aren’t real and that, in their view, all the covid-19 deaths around the globe have been faked in order to trick the public.

Conspiracy analyst David Icke has now emerged as the poster child for Stupid-19. In a popular new interview, David Icke claims all the following bizarre things:


That there is no covid-19 virus.
That PCR gene analysis technology doesn’t work.
That all the deaths would have happened anyway, but are being re-categorized as covid-19 through some grand conspiracy involving tens of thousands of doctors, nurses and coroners.
That all healthy cells in healthy people excrete covid-19-like virus material when stressed, which is why covid-19 tests keep finding covid-19.
That ANYONE can “test positive” for covid-19 since the test only spots routine genetic material that’s found in the body of every living person.
That doctors can ramp up or ramp down the number of infections they want to find by simply altering the PCR replication of genetic material in test samples.

According to Icke, all the 100+ nations around the world have faked their own economic collapse scenarios, faked all the cremations of dead bodies and rigged lockdowns for no reason in order to pull off some sort of global prank.

Icke claims covid-19 is actually being caused by 5G cell towers alone. This is unfortunate since 5G exposure may be a co-factor in the loss of structure and function of hemoglobin molecules in red blood cells (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-06-5g-alter-hemoglobin-coronavirus-patients-oxygen-deprivation.html), but that’s only a co-factor. 5G alone cannot explain the exponential spread of the coronavirus which almost perfectly follows the spread pattern of a transmissible infectious pathogen.

Watch my video below, explaining the rise of #Stupid-19 across the independent media.

https://brighteon.com/embed/48225374-32e7-4fb9-a0a5-39f65d4ef006

David Icke is now infecting the independent media with horribly wrong disinformation that defies logic and reason

Sadly, David Icke not only embarrasses himself with Stupid-19 theories that defy rationality, by extension he mocks those across the independent media who have now embraced his views. It’s almost as if the pro-Trump indy media has lost two hundred years of scientific knowledge and now no longer believes in the germ theory. It is no coincidence that many of these same people also quite literally believe the Earth is flat. (Not a joke, they really do.)

As much as I am criticized by mainstream media for questioning the safety of vaccine ingredients (which really can be dangerous), it turns out that I’m actually among the most science-educated persons in independent media, and I find myself now arguing with others in the industry who can’t solve basic math problems and don’t understand the difference between atomic elements, molecules, proteins and chromosomes.

To them, it’s all one giant mish-mash of foreign concepts, which is why David Icke manages to gather an audience of similarly science-illiterate people who think that what he’s saying makes sense.

I don’t think David Icke should be censored, mind you. Everybody should have the right to speak (including myself, and I’m the most censored pro-science voice in the world), but the only reason Icke has an audience on this subject is because the masses of illiterate people also suffer from Stupid-19.

If basic science education were more widespread in America, Icke would be largely ignored, and the guy who interviewed him — Brian Rose of LondonReal.tv — wouldn’t have allowed his platform to be used to spread horribly wrong disinformation that will quite literally lead to people being killed by complacency.

Interestingly, Brian Rose has also interviewed Neil Degrasse-Tyson, who no doubt would vehemently disagree with David Icke’s claim that viruses aren’t real and that covid-19 isn’t caused by an infectious disease at all. Yet during the interview with David Icke, Brian Rose didn’t challenge Icke’s bizarro worldview.

He let Icke roll out extremely bad misinformation grounded in science illiteracy without halting him with basic questions like, “If the virus isn’t real, then why did China enforce draconian quarantine measures that nearly destroyed its domestic economy in order to stop the spread of the virus?”

Apparently, David Icke believes that China, Iran, Italy, Spain, France, Taiwan, Singapore, Australia, Canada, the UK, the United States and nearly a hundred other countries all got together and simultaneously agreed to run a global lockdown hoax and destroy their own domestic economies as part of a worldwide hoax.

That’s literally what he believes. Such a belief is insane. There is no scenario under which all those countries would shake hands and agree to destroy their own domestic economies for a hoax.

No choice but to denounce such views as insane and dangerous

Today, I must denounce David Icke and anyone else who claims the coronavirus is a hoax. Anyone spouting such nonsense deserves to be ignored (not censored, but rationally rejected by the rest of us).

The latest theory of Stupid-19 claims that none of the covid-19 deaths are real because the people who died had underlying health conditions. Therefore, the narrative goes, nobody really died from covid-19. That’s insane. Nearly everybody who dies from any cause has underlying health conditions.

People who die from cancer also typically have cardiovascular issues or blood sugar problems. People who die of pneumonia often have hypertension or early stage cancer. Almost nobody just dies in perfect health except by accidents. Yet according to the Stupid-19 promoters, anyone who had an underlying health condition at all must not be counted as dying from covid-19.

That’s not an argument. It’s just a demonstration of Stupid-19.

A similar argument is that, “Those people would have died anyway.” But that’s true for everyone, all the time. Everybody is going to die anyway. The real question is what killed them today? And right now covid-19 is the No. 1 cause of death in America on a day-to-day basis. Yet because of people like David Icke, a very large number of independent media followers are convinced it’s all fake.

That encourages them to avoid wearing masks or washing hands, thereby encouraging the further spread of the infections that are getting people killed by the thousands each day in America alone.

David Icke and other pandemic denialists are complicit in the deaths of these people. They share the responsibility for those deaths.

LondonReal (Brian Rose) is also complicit in these deaths, in my opinion. If Brian Rose had any ethics at all, he would not allow his platform to be used to spread the kind of dangerous disinformation that literally gets people killed.

He should have stopped David Icke at the statement, “There is no virus” and challenged him on that point. (Rose is no idiot. He’s highly educated and he knows David Icke is spewing nonsense. But Rose is enjoying the sudden spike in popularity, which means he’s interviewing David Icke basically as a form of “video click bait.”)

I also find it highly disturbing that InfoWars is lending a platform to both David Icke and Brian Rose, furthering their spread of dangerous disinformation that threatens public health.

I’m a fill-in host on InfoWars, and each time I appear, I use the time to attempt to educate InfoWars listeners about the scientific principles that are clearly at work with this pandemic, yet I find that nearly all the other guests (and many hosts) are pandemic denialists with no scientific education whatsoever. I’m fighting against a tidal wave of ignorance, and it is increasingly obvious that the effort is pointless.

Stupid-19 is very real and very dangerous. Stupid-19 isn’t caused by a virus, but it is caused by stupid people opening their mouths and spouting brain-damaged theories rooted in a stunning lack of basic science education. It’s time that someone from independent media spoke out against the Stupid-19 phenomenon and stated the obvious. That person, it appears, is me.

Let the attacks against me commence. I’m used to it. But I’ve got logic, reason and the facts on my side, and I’m not bending my beliefs just to conform to a group of incredible ill-informed individuals whose dangerous disinformation is truly a clear and present danger to public health.

I’m not in favor of censorship, but I do think we should exercise discernment. And David Icke’s bizarre, wrongheaded theory about covid-19 should be rejected by all free-thinking individuals. Any who follow David Icke’s wrongheaded beliefs may not only risk their own safety, they may also place others at risk as well.

But the self-reinforcing delusions of David Icke allow him to say none of those deaths are his fault, since he believes all the deaths are being faked in the first place. As people are dying by the thousands, Icke excuses his own role in furthering those deaths by claiming it’s all a grand global conspiracy to silence people like him.

This is a sad day for the independent media and a sad day for humanity. It’s a sad day for me personally, too, because I had no choice but to publish this denouncement, even knowing it would result in me being widely criticized by those who follow Icke. David Icke has had many fine moments of analysis throughout his career, and he was brilliant on 9/11. But he’s insane when it comes to covid-19 and infectious disease.

David Icke and Brian Rose owe the world an apology.

Great -disagreement is where growth can occur as it allows for greater clarity on the issue.


MA has articulated his position well and I would just like to point out the following very quickly

1 Mr Icke does in fact state that 5 G is a primary causative factor in the symptom complex being labled as CV 19. (Because it is (in my opinion). There is a plethora of research on this site that provides undeniable proof that 5G seriously comprimises the Mind, Body, Spirit system, along with an excellent entire book by Arthur Firstenberg, The Invisable Rainbow). MA provides no evidence to the contrary.

2. MA's use of the word Stupid is most unfortunate - especially when referring to Mr. Icke.

3. A large portion of MA's business revenue comes from the sale of supplements, website traffic/advertisement. I am sure the virus theory is much better for business.

4. MA claims to be a scientist - yet he remarkably fails to provide any counter evidence regarding testing for Covid 19 , or any of the other 5 points of contention, - instead he relies heavily on emotionally triggering rhetoric ( for some of which - I think he owes Mr. Icke an apology). He does mention that the symptom complex being labeled as CV 19 follows an infectious pattern. This is very easily countered with the fact that it perfectly follows a 5 G mast tower pattern.

5. The fact his chosen rhetoric is so incendiary is cause for suspicion

6. If MA believes so strongly in Mainstream Medicines Scientific data then I would request that he line up for Mr. Gates upcoming vaccine. I would also ask him how many toxic pharmaceutical drugs or vaccines has he taken in the last 10 years?




Blessings

Be well

Luke

[ExomatrixTV]

The Hunger Games Society - Crashing The Economy By Design - David Icke:
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[TomKat]

David Icke and Brian Rose owe the world an apology.

He writes a paper about 1/10th as intelligent as Icke's interviews and calls Icke stupid....

[ExomatrixTV]

British Regulator Ofcom Launches Investigation Into Our David Icke Episode Aired On UK Television📺
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[ExomatrixTV]

London Real Founder Responds To Banning of David Icke 5G Interview:

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[Philippe]

Mike Adams tackles David Icke for denying Covid-19 SEE PREVIOUS POSTS

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-09-new-brain-damaging-disease-stupid-19-coronavirus-hoax.html

What on earth are we talking about?
WHAT TESTS ARE USED AND WHICH ARE FAULTY AND WHICH CAN BE TRUSTED?

- A faulty test exists that identifies an exosome and calls it erroneously the virus
- A highly contagious virus exists and I suppose can be identified correctly
- Tests with a throat swap are done and there is suspicion that these kits come from China and can be contagious
- Etcetera...

The confusion is complete and reputations of well meaning opinion leaders are getting hits for lack of information and false data.

Adams utterly takes down Icke in this article. But because he does not indicate the huge manipulations against liberty in this health crisis, he is also responsible for incomplete information.

[Bill Ryan]

More from Mike Adams, published yesterday.

https://naturalnews.com/2020-04-09-coronavirus-pandemic-denialists-playing-right-into-the-hands-of-the-globalists.html

~~~

Pandemic DENIALISTS are playing right into the hands of the globalists, causing more deaths, longer lockdowns and mandatory vaccines

9 April, 2020

The pro-liberty independent media is running a dangerous gambit, almost universally claiming the coronavirus is a hoax while insisting that all the deaths in all the hospitals around the world are being faked by a conspiracy network of 100,000+ doctors and coroners who they say are altering death certificates to shift death statistics to covid-19.

What they don’t seem to realize is that they’re playing right into the hands of the globalists by encouraging people to avoid wearing masks, washing their hands or practicing safe social distancing. Through this complacency, pandemic denialism will actually spread more infections, leading to more deaths, longer lockdowns and stronger calls for a mandatory vaccine.

In other words, the pandemic denialists are practically carrying out the globalist mission to keep spreading the virus as long as possible. It is those denialists — like David Icke and others (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-09-new-brain-damaging-disease-stupid-19-coronavirus-hoax.html) — who are furthering the globalist agenda to enslave humanity.

If we beat the virus with nutrition, then we short circuit the globalist agenda, too

Those of us who understand the real dynamics of what’s going on here are offering a far more thoughtful pro-liberty path: Let’s beat the virus with nutrition and masks so that we can end the lockdowns and make vaccines obsolete by the time they’re ready for market.

But in order to beat the virus, we of course first have to acknowledge the virus is real. That turns out to be the most difficult part with the pro-liberty crowd.

That’s why the actions of pandemic denialists like David Icke are so dangerous: They lead people to reject the entire Germ Theory, leading people to believe that 100+ countries have all agreed to carry out a grand global conspiracy that involves crashing their own economies, faking the mass cremation of bodies and secretly altering death certificates all across the globe, all in unison, without a single whistleblower spilling the beans.

That is literally what the denialists say is happening. It’s beyond absurd. It is delusional.

And it’s going to produce more tyranny, longer lockdowns, more deaths and mandatory vaccines — precisely the very things these people say they oppose.

This is why we must all denounce those who falsely claim the coronavirus is a hoax. They are not merely dangerous to public health; they are dangerous to the liberty movement and the independent media which is already committing credibility suicide by entertaining nonsense ideas like the “coronavirus hoax” narrative.

They’re also going to get Trump DEFEATED in the November elections

Ron Paul, by the way, is among these pandemic denialists. So is Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and nearly the entire pro-Trump independent media. InfoWars, where I’ve guest hosted for several years, has many guests who are outright pandemic denialists, and although I’ve tried my best to educate the audience there with good, solid science, I am drowned out by the voices of scientific illiteracy that have no training, no knowledge and no experience in the health sciences.

I’m very good at seeing where things are headed, and I can already see that the pro-Trump pandemic denialists are going to get Trump defeated in the November election.

They’re going to achieve that by causing increased infections, hospitalizations and deaths by encouraging people to avoid wearing masks while breaking lockdown rules to socialize with other “resistance” members who describe themselves as refusing to be slaves of the globalists.

But by gathering together in groups, these people will of course start infecting each other with the coronavirus, and they will kill each other off like some sort of twisted suicide cult.

They will also add to the ongoing infections and deaths, greatly extending the necessary “lockdown” social isolation periods, leading to even more economic damage that will severely harm Trump in the November elections.

I supported Trump and voted for Trump in 2016. I even publicly predicted his victory against all odds, defying the “consensus” that claimed Trump couldn’t possibly win. But if Trump loses in November — which now looks like a near-certainty — it will largely be because his own supporters were too scientifically illiterate to grasp the fundamentals of infectious disease.

So they rejected the science because they didn’t understand it, and in doing so they prolonged the spread of the virus and the economic fallout that resulted. You could sort of call it “political natural selection,” if you wanted.

Even to this day, pro-Trump pundits and conservative talking heads are still comparing covid-19 deaths to automobile accidents and suicides, two phenomena that aren’t infectious diseases and therefore don’t spread from one person to the next.

There are very few conservatives in America, it seems, who understand the very point of a quarantine, which is to separate people for a temporary period of time in order to break the cycle of exponential spread for an infectious disease.

Even the Romans understood the principle of a quarantine, as they would require ships with infected people to stay docked outside the port for 40 days. That’s the origin of the word “quarantine,” in fact, where the prefix “quar” means four (as in “quarters”).

Yet almost thousands of years later, we still have people living in 2020 who think they’re brilliant journalists and pundits who don’t have even the basic knowledge of infectious disease that the Romans had over eons ago.

Talk about going back in time… many of today’s conservatives have belief systems on this that mirror pre-germ theory beliefs where people thought diseases were caused by angry gods or spontaneous bad luck.

Seriously, folks, we are living in the new age of scientific illiteracy where the masses are so uninformed that they are incapable of accepting a global pandemic that’s unfolding right in front of their own eyes, literally killing thousands of people every day right in America.

If the pro-Trump, pro-liberty conservatives can’t accept the reality of the coronavirus pandemic right now, they also won’t accept it when 50,000 Americans die. They’ll just have another stupid explanation: “Well more people died from cancer last year, so the coronavirus isn’t real.” (No, their arguments are not arguments at all. They’re babble.)

Sadly, the persistent ignorance of these people threatens us all, yet they parade around as if they are the “awakened” geniuses of society, saving us from the globalists agendas by encouraging us to follow them into our own self-destruction.

If we all listen to people like David Icke, we all commit “collective suicide” by providing the coronavirus the exact platform it needs to keep spreading and killing and destroying the economies of the world.

Right now, the globalists are winning… and so is the virus

The conclusion of all this is that thanks to scientifically illiterate independent media people, who tend to be pro-liberty and pro-Trump, the globalists are winning big time. They’ve got you right where they want you: Spreading the disease, extending the lockdown times and sustaining the hospitalizations and deaths until Bill Gates has a (mandatory) vaccine ready.

And the pandemic denialists are delivering that scenario to the globalists on a silver platter. It’s almost as if some of these disinfo agents were working for the globalists and using their influence to sow confusion and denialism in order to keep the virus spreading.

When this is all said and done, history will not judge these people kindly. They will be placed in the same category as “Holocaust deniers” and mocked for decades to come. Some may find themselves sued by the family members of people who died from the pandemic.

And if the lockdowns get even more aggressive due to the ongoing infections, I wouldn’t be surprised if a kind of medical tyranny gets rolled out that seeks the arrest and prosecution of those who claimed the coronavirus was a hoax. (That seems to be the direction this is all going, sadly…)

Anyone who really wants to defend humanity, end suffering, save lives and protect personal liberty needs to follow our work here at Natural News. We’ve been the most accurate independent media source in the world when it comes to predicting pandemic events ahead of time (see the animated video timeline below), and we are pro-human, pro-liberty while also being fluent in science and consistent with scientific principles.

We support mandatory masks in public, nutritional prevention (zinc, vitamin D, etc.), the use of off-patent prescription drugs where warranted (hydroxychloroquine + zinc) and adherence to social distancing recommendations that help halt the spread of the virus.

We want America to defeat this epidemic, end the lockdowns in a rational way and get our economy back to work. If you support that approach, keep reading NaturalNews.com (http://NaturalNews.com) and listen to my podcasts at the Health Ranger Report channel on Brighteon.com (https://www.brighteon.com/channels/hrreport).

Or, you could just pretend the coronavirus isn’t real and hope it goes away. President Trump already found out that strategy doesn’t work, by the way, so it’s not an approach with a good track record of success.

If you want to succeed in the real world, you need to live in the real world. Cast aside the delusions of the misinformed and take this epidemic seriously so we can end it quickly, putting us on track to end the lockdowns and restore the liberties we all cherish.

[Feritciva]

This is a very tangled story. Although I definitely agree with MA's comment "It’s almost as if the pro-Trump indy media has lost two hundred years of scientific knowledge..."** , his approach is also very limited too.

I've been working with dietary supplements and herbs for 20 years now and I cannot see how we can achieve this: "Let’s beat the virus with nutrition and masks.." This really looks like a "if you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail" type thinking.

Dont get me wrong, of course nutriton and healthy lifestyle habits are the foundation for health - not only for Covid - nearly for everything. But as I said this is a real convoluted story and we dont seem to have only one explanation / one solution for everything. We have to study, experiment and find the best possible cures without any potential harm.

There is only one thing certain about this story/process; if we wait for someone or some organisation to develop a "miracle vaccine" for this problem (which I observe even in my health professional colleagues right now) we are REALLY REALLY very naive and miserable species as human beings..


** We see the same thing here in Turkey in right-wing zealots. It seems like whole scientific/rational principles are forgotten and nonsense took over everything. :facepalm:

[Luke Holiday]

Mike Adams tackles David Icke for denying Covid-19 SEE PREVIOUS POSTS

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-09-new-brain-damaging-disease-stupid-19-coronavirus-hoax.html

What on earth are we talking about?
WHAT TESTS ARE USED AND WHICH ARE FAULTY AND WHICH CAN BE TRUSTED?

- A faulty test exists that identifies an exosome and calls it erroneously the virus
- A highly contagious virus exists and I suppose can be identified correctly
- Tests with a throat swap are done and there is suspicion that these kits come from China and can be contagious
- Etcetera...

The confusion is complete and reputations of well meaning opinion leaders are getting hits for lack of information and false data.

Adams utterly takes down Icke in this article. But because he does not indicate the huge manipulations against liberty in this health crisis, he is also responsible for incomplete information.WHAT TESTS ARE USED AND WHICH ARE FAULTY AND WHICH CAN BE TRUSTED?

- A faulty test exists that identifies an exosome and calls it erroneously the virus

… have you had a chance to review the research of Dr. Kaufman MD or Thomas Cuwan MD on this subject?

If not what - then what may I ask. are your basing your claim of erroneous on?

[norman]

I'm sad and disturbed to say that I'm seeing a whole bunch of iconic thought leaders we've trundled along with for many years of alternative community building fail the fake 20 dollar note machine test.

[Caliban]

Mike "There Will Be Cannibals In The Streets" Adams couldn't polish Icke's snakeskin boots on his best day.

No one is totally "right," of course.

Anyone who really wants to defend humanity, end suffering, save lives and protect personal liberty needs to follow our work here at Natural News.
Keep pushing the narrative, Mike, it'll sell more of your pills.

The last 30 minutes of Icke's London Real interview (last one) was about as positive and life affirming as you can get.

Mike understands the words but the meaning is just a little bit unclear.

[Luke Holiday]

Hello I indulged myself deeper in this debate with MA, - enter at your own risk :)

The pro-liberty independent media is running a dangerous gambit, almost universally claiming the coronavirus is a hoax while insisting that all the deaths in all the hospitals around the world are being faked by a conspiracy network of 100,000+ doctors and coroners who they say are altering death certificates to shift death statistics to covid-19.,

MA provides no proof for his statement. I would counter with: There is proof that deaths being attributed to the symptom complex labeled as CV 19 are being inflated by health officials claiming cause of death to be CV 19 on patients with multiple co-morbities. (Mr. Jon Rappoport, Mr. Icke, Ms K. Cassidy)

What they don’t seem to realize is that they’re playing right into the hands of the globalists by encouraging people to avoid wearing masks, washing their hands or practicing safe social distancing. Through this complacency, pandemic denialism will actually spread more infections, leading to more deaths, longer lockdowns and stronger calls for a mandatory vaccine.

MA provides no refences for his claims. Personally, I doubt that any site would promote not washing hands?

In other words, the pandemic denialists are practically carrying out the globalist mission to keep spreading the virus as long as possible. It is those denialists — like David Icke and others — who are furthering the globalist agenda to enslave humanity.

Once again, the PCR test, which is being used to identify cases, has been proven to be nonspecific and unreliable in its ability to diagnose infectious disease; hence any data being used by the WHO/CDC to justify a global lockdown is ludicrous.

What people like Mr. Icke. Mr. Rapport, Dr. Kaufman, Dr, Cuwon, Dr. Shiva and many others are doing is articulating their truth, based on their findings which involves many hours/years of studying the scientific data/findings. (MA provides very little of this in these two articles).

I would argue that these thought leaders are not spreading the virus – they are simply spreading the truth which will allow humanity to make the best possible collective and individual choices on how to most effective react to this crisis.

“.. Truth is still the truth no matter how uncomfortable it may be or how vehemently “Elders” may object”

If we beat the virus with nutrition, then we short circuit the globalist agenda, too

Those of us who understand the real dynamics of what’s going on here are offering a far more thoughtful pro-liberty path: Let’s beat the virus with nutrition and masks so that we can end the lockdowns and make vaccines obsolete by the time they’re ready for market.

Before I commit to wearing a mask everywhere – please prove to me that the contagiousness/lethality of the proposed disease warrants such an action.

So far MA’s case rests soley on “It is because those in power are telling you to do so”– not on the scientific data. How many reading this now - trust those in power to tell the truth regarding this p(l)andemic

The nutrition part – of course – we all agree – but I would take it step further and say that we all should be trying to improve our Mind, Body, Spirit systems to the utmost degree that we care capable of.

I find it interesting that he focuses on just nutrition/masks (again I see a financial motive here)

But in order to beat the virus, we of course first have to acknowledge the virus is real. That turns out to be the most difficult part with the pro-liberty crowd.

MA – yes. please prove to us that the symptom complex currently being labeled as CV 19 is in fact being caused by CV 19.

Please prove to me that CV 19 has been test and proved to pass Koch postulates of contagion. Bottom line: Do this and I am all in – without it…..

That’s why the actions of pandemic denialists like David Icke are so dangerous: They lead people to reject the entire Germ Theory, leading people to believe that 100+ countries have all agreed to carry out a grand global conspiracy that involves crashing their own economies, faking the mass cremation of bodies and secretly altering death certificates all across the globe, all in unison, without a single whistleblower spilling the beans.

MA there are countless whistleblowers spilling the beans…

What? There are a plethora of whistleblowers: For starters, MA, are you aware of the 12 medical/scientific experts and countless other very well respected researchers who question the CV panic.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic

MA, what is dangerous, is using incendiary rhetoric to lambaste a valid opposing viewpoint and it’s well respected authors to serve an agenda… and/or calling those with much greater reputations then your own, stupid.

For the record, I absolutely believe, 100%, the global elite could carry out the scenario you have laid out. (Research false flags before every major war, the great depression, funding both sides of wars, the holocaust etc, etc, etc..)

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That is literally what the denialists say is happening. It’s beyond absurd. It is delusional.

And it’s going to produce more tyranny, longer lockdowns, more deaths and mandatory vaccines — precisely the very things these people say they oppose.

This is why we must all denounce those who falsely claim the coronavirus is a hoax.

MA or perhaps we should denounce those who claim the opposite void any reliable data to back up arguments.

To be clear – CV 19 is not a hoax in the sense there is not a real virus, it is a hoax in terms of what is being perpetuated upon the people of the planet without provable just cause.

They are not merely dangerous to public health; they are dangerous to the liberty movement and the independent media which is already committing credibility suicide by entertaining nonsense ideas like the “coronavirus hoax” narrative.

They’re also going to get Trump DEFEATED in the November elections

Nonsense: not with creepy, sleepy Joe as the opposition. Unless of course they can rig the elections

Ron Paul, by the way, is among these pandemic denialists. So is Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and nearly the entire pro-Trump independent media. InfoWars, where I’ve guest hosted for several years, has many guests who are outright pandemic denialists, and although I’ve tried my best to educate the audience there with good, solid science, I am drowned out by the voices of scientific illiteracy that have no training, no knowledge and no experience in the health sciences.

No rebuttal needed here – MA does a great job by himself.


OK that's it....


One closing comment I have noticed while diving deeper into this material: the posers and the real players are becoming more evident...


Blessings Luke

[Philippe]

Mike Adams tackles David Icke for denying Covid-19 SEE PREVIOUS POSTS

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-09-new-brain-damaging-disease-stupid-19-coronavirus-hoax.html

What on earth are we talking about?
WHAT TESTS ARE USED AND WHICH ARE FAULTY AND WHICH CAN BE TRUSTED?

- A faulty test exists that identifies an exosome and calls it erroneously the virus
- A highly contagious virus exists and I suppose can be identified correctly
- Tests with a throat swap are done and there is suspicion that these kits come from China and can be contagious
- Etcetera...

The confusion is complete and reputations of well meaning opinion leaders are getting hits for lack of information and false data.

Adams utterly takes down Icke in this article. But because he does not indicate the huge manipulations against liberty in this health crisis, he is also responsible for incomplete information.WHAT TESTS ARE USED AND WHICH ARE FAULTY AND WHICH CAN BE TRUSTED?

- A faulty test exists that identifies an exosome and calls it erroneously the virus

… have you had a chance to review the research of Dr. Kaufman MD or Thomas Cuwan MD on this subject?

If not what - then what may I ask. are your basing your claim of erroneous on?

My message was not clear enough. I am not saying that the interesting theory of Dr. Kaufmann is erroneous. I was saying that a test (which one ?) is said to find a virus while it may in fact be an exosome. Thus this test if erroneous would be a big error or scam that is abused to count thousands of positive Covid19. Hence Icke calls it a scam. BUT we as mostly not scientifically trained must find what test is being used !
Is there an exosome and also a virus to be identified ? What is causing the infections ?

Meanwhile Adams has caught up on the danger for our liberties with another article:

We must all demand a sensible end to the coronavirus lockdowns, or we will lose our liberties forever

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-10-we-must-all-demand-a-sensible-end-to-the-coronavirus-lockdowns-or-we-will-lose-our-liberties-forever.html

[ExomatrixTV]

Thank You Satanic Elite - For Proving Me Right - David Icke Dot Connector Videocast:
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[Luke Holiday]

Hello

Mr. Icke has provided a link to a comprehensive list of video references supporting his recent London Real video with Brian Rose.

https://www.davidicke.com/article/567397/vital-videos-watching-david-ickes-london-real-interview-today

[Luke Holiday]

Very interesting video regarding the difference between non lockdown vs Lockdown countries.


https://www.davidicke.com/article/567777/uk-column-covid19-indefinite-lockdown


1. Non lockdown countries have significantly less reported deaths, and open economies:


Update: Yes, that you for the fact checking - the video does not list source - which I would assume would be CDC stats: With the knowledge I have currently it is NOT significantly less.

[Ultima Thule]

Very interesting video regarding the difference between non lockdown vs Lockdown countries.


https://www.davidicke.com/article/567777/uk-column-covid19-indefinite-lockdown


1. Non lockdown countries have significantly less reported deaths, and open economies

A two country focus group:
Quite similar nordic countries, Sweden 10 million people, Finland with 5.5 million.

Sweden, non-lockdown 887 dead
Finland, lockdown 48 dead

It really isn't the case that you state here. Sweden, a non-lockdown country having 10x more deaths, taking into consideration the difference in population sizes.

UT

[Bill Ryan]

Very interesting video regarding the difference between non lockdown vs Lockdown countries.

https://www.davidicke.com/article/567777/uk-column-covid19-indefinite-lockdown

1. Non lockdown countries have significantly less reported deaths, and open economies

A two country focus group:
Quite similar nordic countries, Sweden 10 million people, Finland with 5.5 million.

Sweden, non-lockdown 887 dead
Finland, lockdown 48 dead

It really isn't the case that you state here. Sweden, a non-lockdown country having 10x more deaths, taking into consideration the difference in population sizes. Yes. Also look at Belarus and Brazil. I don't have time to dig out the stats just this moment, but I think you'll find they tell a similar story.

[norman]

Very interesting video regarding the difference between non lockdown vs Lockdown countries.

https://www.davidicke.com/article/567777/uk-column-covid19-indefinite-lockdown

1. Non lockdown countries have significantly less reported deaths, and open economies

A two country focus group:
Quite similar nordic countries, Sweden 10 million people, Finland with 5.5 million.

Sweden, non-lockdown 887 dead
Finland, lockdown 48 dead

It really isn't the case that you state here. Sweden, a non-lockdown country having 10x more deaths, taking into consideration the difference in population sizes. Yes. Also look at Belarus and Brazil. I don't have time to dig out the stats just this moment, but I think you'll find they tell a similar story.

But you could equally argue that the non lockdown countries are peaking earlier with whatever death stats they can squeeze out of this. I don't know, but only at some kind of end stage will we see the totals.

[Luke Holiday]

Very interesting video regarding the difference between non lockdown vs Lockdown countries.


https://www.davidicke.com/article/567777/uk-column-covid19-indefinite-lockdown


1. Non lockdown countries have significantly less reported deaths, and open economies

A two country focus group:
Quite similar nordic countries, Sweden 10 million people, Finland with 5.5 million.

Sweden, non-lockdown 887 dead
Finland, lockdown 48 dead

It really isn't the case that you state here. Sweden, a non-lockdown country having 10x more deaths, taking into consideration the difference in population sizes.

UT

Hello BR and UT,

So I did some fact checking, the graph used in the video shows 7 countries in lockdown and 7 countries not in lockdown using CDC statistics to highlight deaths per million people in each country.

I have done the math using todays CDC statistics and the statement is definitely validated by the numbers using a 14 country sample.

I was also stunned by how low numbers actually are in those non-locked down countries. I am hoping someone can find out the 5 G status in the countries not on lock down used in this study -they are:

Sweden
Iceland
Mexico
Belarus
Japan
South Korea
Taiwan

Let me know if anyone is interested in seeing those statistics laid out in a chart format with actual numbers visable. I am also planning to match those numbers up against the most recent 5 G rollout status

Conclusion: Of the 14 country sample: 7 locked down and 7 not locked down: there are significantly less deaths in the 7 non locked down countries.

Blessings Luke

[Metaphor]

Very interesting video regarding the difference between non lockdown vs Lockdown countries.


https://www.davidicke.com/article/567777/uk-column-covid19-indefinite-lockdown


1. Non lockdown countries have significantly less reported deaths, and open economies

A two country focus group:
Quite similar nordic countries, Sweden 10 million people, Finland with 5.5 million.

Sweden, non-lockdown 887 dead
Finland, lockdown 48 dead

It really isn't the case that you state here. Sweden, a non-lockdown country having 10x more deaths, taking into consideration the difference in population sizes.

UT

Hello BR and UT,

So I did some fact checking, the graph used in the video shows 7 countries in lockdown and 7 countries not in lockdown using CDC statistics to highlight deaths per million people in each country.

I have done the math using todays CDC statistics and the statement is definitely validated by the numbers using a 14 country sample.

I was also stunned by how low numbers actually are in those non-locked down countries. I am hoping someone can find out the 5 G status in the countries not on lock down used in this study -they are:

Sweden
Iceland
Mexico
Belarus
Japan
South Korea
Taiwan

Let me know if anyone is interested in seeing those statistics laid out in a chart format with actual numbers visable. I am also planning to match those numbers up against the most recent 5 G rollout status

Conclusion: Of the 14 country sample: 7 locked down and 7 not locked down: there are significantly less deaths in the 7 non locked down countries.

Blessings Luke

5g is not on yet in Sweden. It has been partially tested at a small area in Stockholm. Thats the official version anyway.

[Bill Ryan]

5g is not on yet in Sweden. It has been partially tested at a small area in Stockholm. Thats the official version anyway.One can check operational 5G coverage (and 4G, and 3G) in any region or city of the world, using this site: http://nperf.com.

(Or, simply search with this term: [site:nperf.com stockholm] — etc)

[Luke Holiday]

Ok, I hope this will add some clarity.


Attatched is the table with all of numbers in a clean format


Personally, I found it very clear from these statistics, in this 14 country sample size:

1. Being in lockdown has no statistical significance on the number of deaths and it does not lower the death rate. In fact, in this study, those in lockdown had an overall remarkably higher death rates and numbers.

The number of deaths per million really makes the case very clear for the non statistician.


2. There is a correlation between the concentration of 5G and the number of deaths.

3. Obviously more testing needs to be done to firmly establish causation, looking at all countries to form definitive conclusions



Please share this with others so that they can make educated conclusions.


Please add to this work so that we can compile a worldwide list
:)


Be well

Luke

[Ultima Thule]

Ok, I hope this will add some clarity.


Attatched is the table with all of numbers in a clean format


The number of deaths per million really makes the case very clear for the non statistician.

Personally, I found it very clear from these statistics, that in this 14 country sample size:

1. Being in lockdown has no statistical significance on the number of deaths and it does not lower the death rate. In fact, in this study, those in lockdown had an overall remarkably higher death rates and numbers.

2. There is a correlation between the concentration of 5G and the number of deaths.

3. Obviously more testing needs to be done to firmly establish causation.

The last attatchment is the one with all of the data, I am not sure how remove the first two :(




Be well

Luke


The point I would argue is to NOT to make it very clear for the non statistician with a limited hand picked sample. Countries should be sampled altogether and take into consideration the timelines of the lockdown, the demographics etc.


You include Japan in non-lockdown list – which to my understanding it is not. There has been a strict quarantines, travel bans and closings of schools, a very logical containment of the disease.

If you take a look at the timeline of Italy lockdown, you will notice that the lockdown is in reaction to an exponential rise in covid cases. Not the other way around.

Should you incorporate into your statistics lockdown-countries like Finland, Australia and China, you will notice that the general logic that you are suggesting breaks down completely.


You make a claim that 5G has a strong correlation with deaths. Checking the data from a 5G map (https://www.speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map) one can take notice that Lombardia region in Italy has 3 5G networks available, two of which in Milan. In Finland our most locked-down area alone, we have 10. No correlation there to speak of.


Switzerland on the other hand has deployed 801 5G networks. It has a population of 8,5 million, with about 1000 deaths, having a death percentage of 0,01%. They, after having gone to lockdown mid-march, should by your logic be in a desperate place by now. This is however not the case.

South Korea (which you have included in your stats) has deployed 174 5G networks, is not in lockdown and has been able to plateau their new covid cases – with extensive testing and quarantining of tens of thousands of people who have been exposed to confirmed cases. They have in fact created a highly efficient targeted lockdown -system.

My point being:

I suggest the matter is very far from simple and should not be presented as such with cherry picked data. We should definitely not be suggesting causation where even the correlations between lockdown, non-lockdown, timelines of the lockdowns and the relationship of 5G have not been established at all.

My best guess is that in this discussion we most probably are not addressing at all the complexity of covid and the statistical factors in fine enough resolution that have to do with it.

I suggest that we should not be looking out for easy solutions to ease our feelings of uncertainty regarding the situation and even less present them as close-and-shut -cases.

I further suggest that WYSIATI-heuristic by Daniel Kahnemann is a fine tool to take a look at this: wysiati (as many of you probably know) stands for what you see is all there is -fallacy.

This wysiati-fallacy, combined with the need to reduce uncertainty, is a tempting way to end up making overconfident claims with very limited data, not really knowing the unknowns one has.

Top that off with sunk cost fallacy - investing a great deal of effort and perhaps published opinions, and we a have a great soup stirring up. At other times this would result in a which hunt, lynching or warfare, at this point it seems to be heading to the direction of burning up 5G masts at a stake.

On the other hand the lockdown has granted people a rare opportunity (in some countries/surroundings) to experience life at lower velocity and compare the way this feels to the way the usual work life feels like. This is something that we globally can now experience with possibly the "safest" method of delivery – pandemic instead of some cataclysmic event. This is societally very interesting and may have some repercussions to make the world a more sane place.

UT

[Luke Holiday]

Brian Rose from London Real has been deleted from LinkedIn presumably for David Icke - no explanation given



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcJg-gHj6Q8

[Caliban]

Just watched this Icke interview again and I have to say it hit me harder this time. What he has to say here is persuasive to say the least and like a good movie, you pick up more--and make more connections for yourself and in your own mind--with a second view and listen.

If you're short on time watch the last 40 or so minutes. It's like a refreshing dive into cold water. Very uplifting. After all this time researching the ugliest parts of humanity (and maybe non-humanity) he still retains not only hope but expectation of a brilliant outcome. Puts a smile on your face.


https://banned.video/watch?id=5e8e28ed1f333e003a33793b

[ExomatrixTV]

Freedom Of Speech & The Spider - David Icke Talks To Was Ist Das Podcast
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[Philippe]

For the research UT gives this site : (https://www.speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map)

And Bill Ryan gave : "One can check operational 5G coverage (and 4G, and 3G) in any region or city of the world, using this site: http://nperf.com."






You make a claim that 5G has a strong correlation with deaths. Checking the data from a 5G map (https://www.speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map) one can take notice that Lombardia region in Italy has 3 5G networks available, two of which in Milan. In Finland our most locked-down area alone, we have 10. No correlation there to speak of.

UT

Indeed these are counter indications to establish a correlation. Although Helsinki seems to have only 3 5G stations with limited antennas along Mannerheimintie street. That against 2 large networks in Milan . On the contrary disaster area Bergamo is not showing 5G.

Notice that these proposed sites for checking 5G in real time are incomplete or not up to date.

www.speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map gives no data for France while 5G is in Paris.

And the site: http://nperf.com. shows no 5G in Wuhan what is certainly untrue. I have also not established what 4G* in comparison to 4G stands for . Maybe this is the 4G LE.

I suspect these sites are from persons from the same 5G industries and also used as publicity. Therefore to be studied with caution !

[ExomatrixTV]

Up Yours Vimeo - Ickonic's Back - Free Trial For Everyone - David Icke:
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[AutumnW]

Rappoport is playing on your suspicions of mainstream media, pharmeceutical industry, government, etc...We have every right to be suspicious. The problem is he is trying to clear the slate and insert his own alternate reality....and that is exactly what it is. This is a money making venture for him. Please try not to be jerked around by shysters.

I can tell you from personal experience that I ignore 5g whenever I see anything about it now and that is because the information about it has been tarnished by association.

If there is a 'master plan' might it be to inject questionable information (along with valid info) into the alt right community and have them run with it, exaggerate it, and then extrude the whole mess through their imaginations, while calling it solid logic? What does this accomplish? It turns people OFF. It doesn't wake them up AT ALL.

If you are talking about the academic material you may have a point ( I wouldn't know, I hardly ever read it ), but if you're talking about the people watching kinda common sense, you are missing the board, never mind the bulls eye.

Try who's doing what, instead of who's saying what, just for a day or two. You might find it cerebrally liberating in a successful enough way to never want to go back to the old stuff again.

The luxury of ignoring 5G won't last much longer by the way. You better be right.

My non academic brain does struggle with pairing mm waves with parts of the body that are at least a thousand times smaller than that, but when I hear someone mention a so called scientific paper that explains how mm waves can stop the absorption of oxygen, that sure gets my attention. If that could be true, I'm completely on board with an absolute all out war against 5G.

if you're talking about the people watching kinda common sense, you are missing the board, never mind the bulls eye.--Norman

I am actually very worried about the technocracy and 5G. I stay away from discussions about it because they segue into complete nonsense. Do certain individuals have a lot to gain from it? Yes. Are they evil monsters engaged in an intentional plan to subvert humanity? Not likely. They are more likely products of tech themselves and enthralled by it. Their intentions may be positive, but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Here is my hypothesis, just in case you think I am not weird enough for this forum. And it is just a very loose theory I pulled out of my ass. I wonder if at the top of all this, including the pandemic, there is some silicon based alien intelligence that is waiting for us to build out the infrastructure so they can more easily finesse something like a parasitic control of the planet. They want to reduce the population and the virus may be part of that.

Not saying, I believe it. It's just a thought I entertain. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

[Luke Holiday]

Rappoport is playing on your suspicions of mainstream media, pharmeceutical industry, government, etc...We have every right to be suspicious. The problem is he is trying to clear the slate and insert his own alternate reality....and that is exactly what it is. This is a money making venture for him. Please try not to be jerked around by shysters.

I can tell you from personal experience that I ignore 5g whenever I see anything about it now and that is because the information about it has been tarnished by association.

If there is a 'master plan' might it be to inject questionable information (along with valid info) into the alt right community and have them run with it, exaggerate it, and then extrude the whole mess through their imaginations, while calling it solid logic? What does this accomplish? It turns people OFF. It doesn't wake them up AT ALL.

If you are talking about the academic material you may have a point ( I wouldn't know, I hardly ever read it ), but if you're talking about the people watching kinda common sense, you are missing the board, never mind the bulls eye.

Try who's doing what, instead of who's saying what, just for a day or two. You might find it cerebrally liberating in a successful enough way to never want to go back to the old stuff again.

The luxury of ignoring 5G won't last much longer by the way. You better be right.

My non academic brain does struggle with pairing mm waves with parts of the body that are at least a thousand times smaller than that, but when I hear someone mention a so called scientific paper that explains how mm waves can stop the absorption of oxygen, that sure gets my attention. If that could be true, I'm completely on board with an absolute all out war against 5G.

if you're talking about the people watching kinda common sense, you are missing the board, never mind the bulls eye.--Norman

I am actually very worried about the technocracy and 5G. I stay away from discussions about it because they segue into complete nonsense. Do certain individuals have a lot to gain from it? Yes. Are they evil monsters engaged in an intentional plan to subvert humanity? Not likely. They are more likely products of tech themselves and enthralled by it. Their intentions may be positive, but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Here is my hypothesis, just in case you think I am not weird enough for this forum. And it is just a very loose theory I pulled out of my ass. I wonder if at the top of all this, including the pandemic, there is some silicon based alien intelligence that is waiting for us to build out the infrastructure so they can more easily finesse something like a parasitic control of the planet. They want to reduce the population and the virus may be part of that.

Not saying, I believe it. It's just a thought I entertain. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

… Whomever, whatever is ultimately behind it - is not human....at least not by my definition of what constitutes a human being

[ExomatrixTV]

David Icke - Conspiracy Theorist or Journalist?
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[pseudo skeptic quote]: John you are a "Conspiracy Nut" [unquote]
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~my response:
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Yeah it “must” be total nuts that we have laws to put people in prison (jail) for conspiring … totally nuts is that … what were they thinking? … When two or more people prepare to commit a crime or to do harm is totally “science fiction” … the lawmakers must also be “conspiracy nuts” then.
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Conspiracy Researchers studies Proven Conspiracy Facts and sometimes have “Theories” about KNOWN liars mixed with hard evidence of corruption, colluding, deceptions etc. … To label some one “Conspiracy Theorists” is to FALSELY ASSUME that some one ‘only’ cooks up “theories”. This need to control the narrative by MSM is part of mass dumbing down of a nation!Look up the word “Conspiracy” in any (LAW) Dictionary … then ask yourself is that “science fiction”? … When 2 or more people prepare to commit a crime or to do harm is that so “far fetched” … what MSM tries to do is you to be associated with certain people that are FAR from being a true researchers or being an honest conspiracy analyst. The reason MSM never can share an honest representation of that what they attack is because they assume most will not verify their own sold claims & judgemental assumptions to them! So they count on you being lazy!
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Ask any police officer if they are allowed to have a theory when they investigating a possible crime … just ask them please … Than you will realize HOW STUPID the framing is.
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TV Series like: “Inspector Columbo” (Peter Falk) would be pretty BORING if he was not allowed to have several theories when he is investigating a possible crime(s) and/or criminal suspect(s). You see they DEMONIZE any critical thinking exposing Government Puppet Politicians, Corrupted Mainstream Media, Hijacked “Protecting Agencies”, Big Pharma Mafia, Banksters with their Giant Fiat Money Pyramid Ponzi Scheme etc.
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cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
Founder Fb.com/groups/Stop5G (http://Fb.com/groups/Stop5G)
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