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greybeard
11th April 2020, 13:49
We are upon the edge of the greatest moment in human history as spiritual evolution rises to meet advancements in science and technology. Inspired by wisdom from inter-dimensional beings, Drs. J.J. and Desiree Hurtak explain how they discovered the Keys of Enoch to unlock new insights into the nature of humanity and the fate we face. Plus, they share some of their preliminary results of exploring the acoustic properties of ancient temples and their spiritual effects.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN4j7Ub0TQs&t=17s

Billy
11th April 2020, 14:46
Thank you for posting this fascinating video Chris.

scotslad
11th April 2020, 17:46
its the most expensive book I've purchased in my library and took 4+ years to read it - heavy going but very enlightening on many different levels.

Ernie Nemeth
11th April 2020, 19:25
My best friend died a few days ago.

Funny, he told me four years ago, just before New Years, that we would not be friends anymore come the new year. Turns out he meant it...

I know the reason, and although it is personal, I can say it was because I did not honor our contract. From my perspective, it was he that broke our covenant, and I refused to implement plan B as was part of our contract because of it.

Plan B killed him.

What has that to do with this thread, you might ask.

We have an agreement from another realm, in another time, that supersedes all other contracts made since. Not only can we not break the covenant, every other contract is null and void if it interferes with the first.

So, although we have opted for Plan B, and even though Plan B will kill us, we do not have the authority to negate the primary agreement.

My friend has come to me and we have convened on a higher plane. I know this man like no other. He is in my debt and I intend to collect. I will summon him whenever I need help - I owe him that.

And we owe this exact debt to our star family, on both sides of the grave.

Thank you

Mypos
11th April 2020, 21:07
There is so much interesting stuff to watch lately. Right now i bookmarked this one, the new Greer documentary and the latest Dark Journalist with Joseph Farell.

Help me people! Which one should i watch first?

greybeard
11th April 2020, 21:20
Mypos this is what I do.
I down load a few at the same time -- start viewing the first that completes.
Twenty minutes about my attention span -- a little while later I go to the next -- unless the first one really caught my attention,
view next for twenty minutes or so -- then the last one ---- I might only watch one all the way through.
The keys was beyond my ability to understand but I did watch all of it very interesting what I did get.
Best wishes chris

Mypos
11th April 2020, 21:36
Mypos this is what I do.
I down load a few at the same time -- start viewing the first that completes.
Twenty minutes about my attention span -- a little while later I go to the next -- unless the first one really caught my attention,
view next for twenty minutes or so -- then the last one ---- I might only watch one all the way through.
The keys was beyond my ability to understand but I did watch all of it very interesting what I did get.
Best wishes chris

Thx Chris. Happy easter to you! Happy egg-hunting. ;P

greybeard
11th April 2020, 21:56
Mypos this is what I do.
I down load a few at the same time -- start viewing the first that completes.
Twenty minutes about my attention span -- a little while later I go to the next -- unless the first one really caught my attention,
view next for twenty minutes or so -- then the last one ---- I might only watch one all the way through.
The keys was beyond my ability to understand but I did watch all of it very interesting what I did get.
Best wishes chris

Thx Chris. Happy easter to you! Happy egg-hunting. ;P

I want one and I want it now.
Jimi Hendrix Do I have to wait until tomorrow?

Blast I never bought any -- Easter has hardly got a mention on the Media.
The good thing when you start a thread is no one complains about you wandering off topic.
Dont think there is even any chocolate in the house.
I will have to text my family now to go fetch an egg.
Im human -- I think.
With love and humour
old Greybeard.

Patient
11th April 2020, 22:34
Yeah, gotta do the Easter bunny thing here too. It is a tradition that each year I provide a bunch of riddles that the kids have to solve - riddle to riddle - to find the treasure.

Lucky for me, we are in a new home for this year. It provides new ideas for hiding places and riddles.

So in line with life itself.

Once the riddles have been solved, regardless of what lies for treasure at the end, they want to do the hunt again.

It is the solving of the riddles, not the treasure at the end, which is the best part of things.

Craig
12th April 2020, 00:23
...

We have an agreement from another realm, in another time, that supersedes all other contracts made since. Not only can we not break the covenant, every other contract is null and void if it interferes with the first.

...

Sorry to go off topic - but this is why i feel free will is a crock of you know what. If we are held to contracts from the other side then all we are doing here is conducting a play. No more for me after this round.

cursichella1
12th April 2020, 10:48
There is so much interesting stuff to watch lately. Right now i bookmarked this one, the new Greer documentary and the latest Dark Journalist with Joseph Farell.

Help me people! Which one should i watch first?

Dark Journalist with Joseph Farrell! 😊

DeDukshyn
12th April 2020, 15:29
...

We have an agreement from another realm, in another time, that supersedes all other contracts made since. Not only can we not break the covenant, every other contract is null and void if it interferes with the first.

...

... If we are held to contracts from the other side then all we are doing here is conducting a play. No more for me after this round.

Once you get to the other side and your faculties are fully restored, you'd probably say something like "Oh right, this is why I signed up for this, this is important ... alright let me try again ..." Your free will garners the utmost respect when you are not suffering amnesia, and overrides the "free will" you think you have while in a blinded state. (as we are all)

Ron Mauer Sr
12th April 2020, 20:42
I wonder what purpose amnesia may serve? Was this discussed in the Keys of Enoch?


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DeDukshyn
12th April 2020, 23:02
I wonder what purpose amnesia may serve? Was this discussed in the Keys of Enoch?


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For honest and fully complete learning and experience. "Learning the hard way" might be an analogy ... because it will provide an inoculation that no other method can provide. Its more about the collective of humanity than the individual.

Besides, it would too easy otherwise ;)


2 cents.

Justplain
13th April 2020, 05:53
This life has too many obstacles to be considered a 'good learning school'. The spiritual amnesia is just the worst kick in the crotch and head of it all. Some, if not all, of us are embedded in a psychological goo with squiggling parasitic thoughtforms that leach on your mind and distract and suck your energy. Some call these Archons. Casteneda's Don Juan called the 'inorganic fliers'. Next, after the inner torments are the outer ones. Abductions are not mentioned much but a huge portion of humanity is subject to its abuses and manipulations. More overt than that are the public manipulations that humans are subject to, including religion, educational programming, entertainment programming, etc. are all obstacles we have to overcome. On top of that we have societal social engineering projects that this world's controllers engage in that further worsens the situation. The spiritual amnesia just makes this nauseating life almost unbearable.

One of the offsets to this nausea is the incredible resiliency, and energy capacity, of the human body. Our bodies can handle a lot and still keep on ticking.

Despite our wonderful bodies, if I have any free will, I will not be returning to this place again until most of these obstacles are removed, including and especially spiritual amnesia. I don't care what prior f*cking 'contracts' are in place. They tell us God gives us free will, so I'm exercising mine. I'll stick around this time around until I'm no longer needed. Then it's see yah.

Ratszinger
13th April 2020, 06:39
I wonder what purpose amnesia may serve? Was this discussed in the Keys of Enoch?


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The cure for boredom! Every experience is the first again and it's interesting. Its unpredictable, scary, surprising. None of which would be present if you had lived so long and done and been every thing in every way that it could be twisted. If this were so eventually nothing would be new, nothing would be surprising, or interesting, or scary or alluring. None of it would even raise an eyebrow and God the one being would be still! Even the quiet would be boring and nothing new. The only cure is to forget all of it!! And bingo life is interesting and fun again and more importantly, new again!

Ernie Nemeth
13th April 2020, 14:34
...

We have an agreement from another realm, in another time, that supersedes all other contracts made since. Not only can we not break the covenant, every other contract is null and void if it interferes with the first.

...

... If we are held to contracts from the other side then all we are doing here is conducting a play. No more for me after this round.

Once you get to the other side and your faculties are fully restored, you'd probably say something like "Oh right, this is why I signed up for this, this is important ... alright let me try again ..." Your free will garners the utmost respect when you are not suffering amnesia, and overrides the "free will" you think you have while in a blinded state. (as we are all)

The free will thing is a pickle, isn't it?
Wonder what Shadowman has to say about that...

My take, for the little it is worth, free will is the illusion that propagates this entire reality. Free will is only free to create like the creator does - and destroy (which is only an aspect of creation - you gotta wipe the chalkboard before you start a new project).

Since our will is not in line with the creator, because of interference in its many forms (earlier called temptation), it seems as though our own will is thwarted. This causes distress. And that leads to more interference. It's a vicious circle.

We are the being we mistake as god. God is nothing more ... and nothing less ... than reality itself.

Our reality is elsewhere. This is not a play, it is a willful attempt by the 'little me' (or ego) to usurp the power of God.

The lesson is not to not come back but not to have to come back.

Big difference.

DeDukshyn
13th April 2020, 14:50
...

The lesson is not to not come back but not to have to come back.

Big difference.

That is one way to put it ... here's another ...

Its about not having to come back into a specific state. The state of hell - of which we are supposed to be trying to rectify here, so we can get on with creation. 'location" generally has nothing to do with it. But metaphors of course are what is used to describe such thing. The "lesson" is the removal of that state from our minds collectively, as we are one.

Since we are One, all we need, as we all need as individuals, is to learn to self-love, how to really self love. We can measure this from the level of our oneness by seeing how we treat each other as humans - all other humans, because they are all "us". This is a practice that no political or money making organization will put into place properly; it is up to us as individuals to offset that.

This is really all it takes. And it will take an awakening of the One.

Edited for additions and clarity.

Craig
14th April 2020, 01:10
Despite our wonderful bodies, if I have any free will, I will not be returning to this place again until most of these obstacles are removed, including and especially spiritual amnesia. I don't care what prior f*cking 'contracts' are in place. They tell us God gives us free will, so I'm exercising mine. I'll stick around this time around until I'm no longer needed. Then it's see yah.

Oh hell yeah, I am thinking of posting a question - Does free will exist after death? Cause if it does I am not coming back...

Constance
14th April 2020, 02:46
Despite our wonderful bodies, if I have any free will, I will not be returning to this place again until most of these obstacles are removed, including and especially spiritual amnesia. I don't care what prior f*cking 'contracts' are in place. They tell us God gives us free will, so I'm exercising mine. I'll stick around this time around until I'm no longer needed. Then it's see yah.

Oh hell yeah, I am thinking of posting a question - Does free will exist after death? Cause if it does I am not coming back...

That's a very good question. From where I stand, it's all divine will. All the divine forces that flow throughout our universe are the same forces sustaining me and keeping me alive :heart:

Patient
14th April 2020, 05:16
Despite our wonderful bodies, if I have any free will, I will not be returning to this place again until most of these obstacles are removed, including and especially spiritual amnesia. I don't care what prior f*cking 'contracts' are in place. They tell us God gives us free will, so I'm exercising mine. I'll stick around this time around until I'm no longer needed. Then it's see yah.

Oh hell yeah, I am thinking of posting a question - Does free will exist after death? Cause if it does I am not coming back...

That's a very good question. From where I stand, it's all divine will. All the divine forces that flow throughout our universe are the same forces sustaining me and keeping me alive :heart:

Synchronicity has been a huge factor in my life lately. An hour or so ago, I was thinking about things and I sat down and opened up this site and I have just read through the last few posts.

So interesting, each person's view point is strong but it comes from their own experience. When we share something similar, there is a certain satisfaction of being correct, or belonging, or something that is self satisfying.

I believe that each one of us are equally important, and probably more so than we will realize.

We need each other (and I feel that can apply to the entire world) and somehow we need to figure out how we should be interacting because it seems that the way we have been over the years is not been going well.

We can find a partner to share the best things in life with. We can include friends, family etc...but often times come along where we are distracted and things get broken. We can try to put it back together but it is never quite the same.

I think we are getting close to figuring it out, but it may be difficult to put into words.

For myself, I feel a need that I can not explain. Like others, I do not care to be here anymore to witness how terrible things can be. But I know that it is important to see all of it that comes my way.

Throughout my life I strongly feel like I have been manipulated by unseen hands - my path has been set for me in certain times regardless of how much I wanted to go one way, things would occur to push me in another. I know that I am where I am suppose to be, but i still do not know why. I knew that there was going to be this pandemic, but I also knew that I had no fear as I somehow knew that I was not going to contact it - or if I did, it would not be fatal.

If i was to tell you how I knew this, it would not be believed and it would make everything else I say here worthless.

I believe the oneness we need exists but we are not yet ready for it. Most of the animal species here already live within it. They communicate what their species need among themselves through their minds somehow - experience is shared.

Perhaps it was expected that we would easily do the same? Maybe it was thought that as separate beings, we would gain experience and then when we come together, we will be that much more stronger of a unity, of a species. But we keep breaking down and do not allow ourselves to come together, at least we haven't yet.

I still have faith that we will.

greybeard
14th April 2020, 06:25
Yet another way of looking at it is.
Earth is a university and when we graduate we dont come back.
Enlightenment is the answer.
Enlightenment means removal of ignorance--the ignorance being that we think we are separate from the Divine.
Time being we are waves of the Divine ocean but regardless the wave is water.

Chris

Constance
14th April 2020, 07:35
Synchronicity has been a huge factor in my life lately. An hour or so ago, I was thinking about things and I sat down and opened up this site and I have just read through the last few posts.

So interesting, each person's view point is strong but it comes from their own experience. When we share something similar, there is a certain satisfaction of being correct, or belonging, or something that is self satisfying.

I believe that each one of us are equally important, and probably more so than we will realize.

We need each other (and I feel that can apply to the entire world) and somehow we need to figure out how we should be interacting because it seems that the way we have been over the years is not been going well.

We can find a partner to share the best things in life with. We can include friends, family etc...but often times come along where we are distracted and things get broken. We can try to put it back together but it is never quite the same.

I think we are getting close to figuring it out, but it may be difficult to put into words.

For myself, I feel a need that I can not explain. Like others, I do not care to be here anymore to witness how terrible things can be. But I know that it is important to see all of it that comes my way.

Throughout my life I strongly feel like I have been manipulated by unseen hands - my path has been set for me in certain times regardless of how much I wanted to go one way, things would occur to push me in another. I know that I am where I am suppose to be, but i still do not know why. I knew that there was going to be this pandemic, but I also knew that I had no fear as I somehow knew that I was not going to contact it - or if I did, it would not be fatal.

If i was to tell you how I knew this, it would not be believed and it would make everything else I say here worthless.

I believe the oneness we need exists but we are not yet ready for it. Most of the animal species here already live within it. They communicate what their species need among themselves through their minds somehow - experience is shared.

Perhaps it was expected that we would easily do the same? Maybe it was thought that as separate beings, we would gain experience and then when we come together, we will be that much more stronger of a unity, of a species. But we keep breaking down and do not allow ourselves to come together, at least we haven't yet.

I still have faith that we will.

Snap! Synchronicity seems to come when we are completely alive to, and present to each and every moment.

I only realised this afternoon for example, that a person who I am very close to, joined Avalon on exactly the same day as myself and in the same year! We didn't know each other at all, way back then. It was only because our posts were very close to each other and I was really in the moment of it all that I made the connection.

What are the chances, what are the odds that someone I am very close to now would join on exactly the same day?

The universe is exact and nature is the perfect demonstration of this. I'm thinking of fractals here.

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When we can catch each and every thought consciously, when we are in stillness, silence, emptiness, solitude and open to the nature of all things, we can have an intuition in every moment. Our future self is always beckoning us on.

We do need each other Patient because you have a unique gift, talent or skill to share with the universe. There will never be another you. It is the law of repeatlessness. You can see this demonstrated in the mandelbrot set. It goes on forever.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD2XgQOyCCk

When you share this gift of yourself, and then someone shares their own unique gift in return, it multiplies that affect and there is reciprocation! There is love!

We are joined to each other so inexplicably and so inexorably in life and in death.

I was saying to my close friend this afternoon that if we are one, if I am just him in another form, and if we really feel in our hearts that we are one, this is spiritual, this is the "spirit-in-u-all".

There is absolute freedom and liberation within this, knowing that we are going along for the ride for, and with each other, knowing that no matter what happens, we are eternal.

greybeard
14th April 2020, 08:52
Everything comes into this world with potential.
The seed may produce stems -- the plant may come forth it may flourish into full maturity it may wither and die before that happens.
It is dependent on soil condition rain sunshine etc.
The full potential of the human is Self Realization.
Depending on various factors this may happen.

The Indian Yogis have been reported to do many things -- all signs of life may be absent - then they come back from that state.
Ramana Maharshi was seen to bi locate but seemed unaware of this.
Babaji was said to be the deathless saint -- he and his followers could just disappear and re appear else where.

So assuming spiritual awakening, after death there are other realms to be "born" into.
No awakening then you have no choice but to come back here --move up a class --then hopefully graduate.
All are of the substratum of the divine -- all Divine energy -- just different -- degrees of that energy.

Thats my current understanding which may well be incorrect.

Chris

Wind
14th April 2020, 09:20
Since our will is not in line with the creator, because of interference in its many forms (earlier called temptation), it seems as though our own will is thwarted. This causes distress. And that leads to more interference. It's a vicious circle.


"The ultimate cause of human disease is the consequence of our transgression of the universal laws of life."

~ Paracelsus

Merkaba360
18th April 2020, 18:17
...

We have an agreement from another realm, in another time, that supersedes all other contracts made since. Not only can we not break the covenant, every other contract is null and void if it interferes with the first.

...

Sorry to go off topic - but this is why i feel free will is a crock of you know what. If we are held to contracts from the other side then all we are doing here is conducting a play. No more for me after this round.


Free will and determinism are just another duality. The truth is the balance of the two. Just as the overall circular path of the earth orbiting the sun is determined and predictable , the exact nuanced path is chaotic and free to choose within the circular parameters set up. Thus, all of nature is chaordic. THe same for the quantum realm. We can predit the overall "orbital" of the electron cloud thingy, but the details inside is subject to change without changing the overall scheme.

So, our conscious ego is freely choosing smaller details but ruled by the cosmos, the higher self, like a parent determines many things for a child. This is what astrology attempts to utilize. How the cosmic energies are guiding the "weather" of our lives throughout time. We are just too ignorant to use astrology to the fullest.

You could say those previous contracts were freely chosen at that time from a clearer knowing of how you wish to proceed and make corrects for your process of becoming. :cocktail:

Eva2
3rd May 2022, 17:19
I bought this book about 15 years ago and it is heavy going but certainly interesting. I am not sure how to feel about it - it does sound empowering and inspiring but it also seems to describe another sort of hierarchical slave system taken up a notch/on a higher frequency perhaps. There also seems to be a lot of freemason symbolism in the pics. I wonder if Hurtak is a senior member of that 'fraternity" and I also wonder if it might be a luciferian light that is being experienced with Lucifer as the kind of ruling lord at the top of the pyramid. Perhaps this book is a stepping stone to greater realizations that will free one from the wheel and all the "rules" and conditions that are contained there. Maybe this book will help elevate one's consciousness enough to break out of that structure and ideology to truly experience self discovery without all the concepts, ideas, laws, etc. that are part of this dimensional composition. I just think there is something way beyond God and bliss which is where we will truly find and understand ourselves. Weren't the Elohim our "creators", the ones who came here, to experiment, manipulate our DNA and fashion this sort of prison/slave system? The book is fascinating and certainly gives one lots to think about - just my thoughts on it.