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Justplain
12th April 2020, 03:17
Here's an interesting character, Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. He's an anti-deep state scientist/inventor who questions the current mainstream Covid-19 narrative, calling it an immune system problem treatable with vitamins. He's also a candidate for the US Senate for massaschusettes.
From wikipedia: V. A. Shiva Ayyadurai is an Indian American scientist, engineer, and entrepreneur. He is notable for his widely disputed claim to be the "inventor of email", based on the electronic mail software called "EMAIL" he wrote as a New Jersey high school student in the late 1970s.
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onawah
12th April 2020, 04:42
Dr. Shiva really summed up all the most important points, and very convincingly.
I felt comfortable sharing the interview widely.
Sunny-side-up
12th April 2020, 11:44
Thank you very much for posting this Justplain.
I like this Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai.
He is the kind of human that should be high up in the structure of our global civilisation, humans, of earth.
Kryztian
12th April 2020, 11:45
It is encouraging to see someone who is a political candidate that is so awakened to the corruption going on in the world, who is a strong spokesman for this issues, and is politically active. Makes me think that our the current political system is not entirely hopeless.
He was running for Elizabeth Warren's seat and had this clever campaign slogan:
https://i.imgur.com/2j00fXl.png
Merkaba360
19th April 2020, 11:46
He makes lots of great points.
What annoys me is that we can't even get researchers and experts to agree on all kinds of things that shouldnt be that difficult. Have we sequenced this virus or not and how do they know for SURE that that specific viral RNA is causing the illness. Apparently our biotech is so mediocre we can't even get the experts to agree on clarifying some of these things. What about antibodies? If there is only one unique antibody for each virus then we should know if this particular virus is in all the sick people. Or is that antibody test fallible? Are these viruses in most people,anyway, so we can always find viruses as scapegoats. lol It is such a mess.
If they can't even sort these things out, then the average human has no prayer. Then how are we gonna prove anything and go against the will of the mainstream if that is what is needed :(
Metaphor
19th April 2020, 20:49
Great guy. Stefan Moleneux interviewed him. Check it out. And yes, it is rare to find someone who speaks more than Stefan.
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TomKat
19th April 2020, 23:26
This is a 3-hour interview with Dr. Shiva that really tells a complete story. Worth a listen, if not a watch.
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Bo Atkinson
29th April 2020, 10:03
Now there is a new twist in Dr. Shiva's public behavior from multiple perspectives!
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/critical-questions-for-dr-shiva-about-his-attempts-to-splinter-the-health-freedom-movement/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2743c813-75ca-4890-b581-46054e2d25a6&fbclid=IwAR080o1FhpZ3qcTqjNfAWshrE36msbzQp7ERbUHzPGxHsP_exPSklxsC4x4
y Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman, Children’s Health Defense
For many months I have remained silent in the face of defamatory and dishonest attacks against me by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. My approach was to ignore the sniping to preserve the unity of the Health Freedom Movement. However, Shiva has expanded his malevolent campaign to include venomous salvos against our community’s most prominent and effective leaders, including Del Bigtree, Mark Blaxill, Dr. Rashid Buttar, Polly Tommey and Samoan-Australian activist Taylor Winterstein. Because he now has some of our outstanding spokesmen in his gun-sites, and because his poisonous volleys have begun to damage the solidarity that is critical to our success, I reluctantly make this response.
Little Lies / Big Lies
I had never heard of Shiva when he approached me on the street following a January 6th, 2020 Trenton rally. We had a friendly chat and took a photo. Afterward, he tweeted that I had refused to shake his hand. A half-dozen photos of us shaking hands soon surfaced, proving his statements false. It was only then that I learned he was running as a fringe candidate for U.S. Senate against my nephew, Massachusetts Congressman Joseph Kennedy. It is axiomatic that a man who lies about small things, will also lie about the large. I made a note to fact check Shiva’s assertions. I advise others to take similar precautions.
Justplain
30th April 2020, 05:18
Here's Dr. Shiva's response to RF Kennedy junior's accusations:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DuWnDP_VwwvE&ved=2ahUKEwj-1PKGr4_pAhWEm-AKHUtqAMkQFjACegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3F9ii8QPThFeo5iAtoMm3s
Mike Gorman
30th April 2020, 09:34
I like this chap, he has some great sensible things to say about the climate alarmist nonsense also, my daughter put me on to his channel.
Bo Atkinson
30th April 2020, 12:07
Thanks for the rebuttal video Justplain, here is more virulent color.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgDXKpUSgc&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR04Sz2WDHmYE5Da9tUTVbL-OlicNUJaNZjMlW0QaJbVEdBy3csrmzw23L4
Delight
1st May 2020, 16:53
Now there is a new twist in Dr. Shiva's public behavior from multiple perspectives!
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/critical-questions-for-dr-shiva-about-his-attempts-to-splinter-the-health-freedom-movement/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2743c813-75ca-4890-b581-46054e2d25a6&fbclid=IwAR080o1FhpZ3qcTqjNfAWshrE36msbzQp7ERbUHzPGxHsP_exPSklxsC4x4
y Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman, Children’s Health Defense
For many months I have remained silent in the face of defamatory and dishonest attacks against me by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. My approach was to ignore the sniping to preserve the unity of the Health Freedom Movement. However, Shiva has expanded his malevolent campaign to include venomous salvos against our community’s most prominent and effective leaders, including Del Bigtree, Mark Blaxill, Dr. Rashid Buttar, Polly Tommey and Samoan-Australian activist Taylor Winterstein. Because he now has some of our outstanding spokesmen in his gun-sites, and because his poisonous volleys have begun to damage the solidarity that is critical to our success, I reluctantly make this response.
Little Lies / Big Lies
I had never heard of Shiva when he approached me on the street following a January 6th, 2020 Trenton rally. We had a friendly chat and took a photo. Afterward, he tweeted that I had refused to shake his hand. A half-dozen photos of us shaking hands soon surfaced, proving his statements false. It was only then that I learned he was running as a fringe candidate for U.S. Senate against my nephew, Massachusetts Congressman Joseph Kennedy. It is axiomatic that a man who lies about small things, will also lie about the large. I made a note to fact check Shiva’s assertions. I advise others to take similar precautions.
I am SO CONFOUNDED by the evidence that despite the common ground, there are people who would rather turn on one another than develop alliances. I have been following Dr. Shiva since he "came on the scene" of the effort of alliances of parents to STOP MANDATORY vaccination.
States like California and New York (and then cascading across the US) have politicians determined to prevent anyone (including physicians) from protecting children from FORCED vaccination. IMO Dr. Shiva's focus on this issue was AFTER the law to place decisions about medical exemptions in California with the health departments. He suddenly was very vocal. I was excited because he looked like he had great knowledge to offer.
Immediately he began insinuating that the Vaxxed team was "not so obvious establishment". He immediately began interfering with others' efforts saying they had done too little. He began talking negatively about Del Bigtree, RFK... everyone actually aside from HIMSELF as failures to lead a health freedom movement. He made efforts to smear Tulsi Gabbard. He has LOTS to say disparaging "heros" of the past like MLK and Ghandi (YES, I know they were imperfect) and actually IMO the issue with Dr. Shiva is that he disdains EVERYONE else. In some of his videos about health he implies he is some sort of spiritual avatar. My suspicion is that he does think he is SHIVA.
How do we cooperate with someone who is so angry, vile in interaction and who enjoys tearing apart what other have done?
Justplain
1st May 2020, 17:36
I know it is difficult to deal with some of Dr. Shiva's rhetoric if you have heroes in the alt truth movement. Unfortunately we know from research that the cabal effectively uses 'controlled opposition' to manage the rebellion aspect of the 'social dialectic'. I think his points are well made. I think rfk Jr's multiple endorsements (4) of the monsanto vaccine queen Hillary Clinton is highly suspect.
I know Dr. Shiva should do a better job with identifying other 'leaders' who aren't compromised, which he seems to be doing with his guest. However, I am, and I hope you all are, tired of the same old story in politics. It's always the same powerful interest groups getting their way, and new movements get co-opted and deflected. We don't need rich folks, or their proxies, volunteering to lead social movements. Grassroots everyday people are needed for that. And i'm willing to withstand characters like Dr. A to get there.
onawah
1st May 2020, 17:45
He displays all the characteristics of a malignant narcissist.
To learn more about that, I suggest starting at the end of this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97293-20-Basic-Tactics-Used-By-Narcissists-Sociopaths-And-Psychopaths-To-manipulate-And-Silence-A-Prey&p=1349126&viewfull=1#post1349126
Or at the beginning, if you prefer.
At the rate he is going, he will soon discredit himself to the point where no help from anyone else will be necessary.
That degree of mental illness is impossible to hide for long.
RFK Jr. spelled it all out for us all quite clearly how dishonest Shiva is.
As for RFK Jr., he has learned from long painful experience how to swim in shark-infested political waters.
anandacate
1st May 2020, 18:02
Source: American Intelligence Media (https://aim4truth.org/2020/05/01/cat-report-383/)
Dr.SHIVA and Young Pharaoh DESTROY RACIST Robbie Kennedy, Jr. Party Over!
Streamed live on Apr 28, 2020
WTgDXKpUSgc
"Watch the video to see the tenor and tone of Dr. 'Shyster' Shiva. Then stay tuned for AIM reports that show you both of these clowns - Shiva and Kennedy - are globalist vaccine puppets. They are there to keep you from looking at PIRBRIGHT and the Queen's bioweapon war against humanity."
Shiva the Patent Shyster (https://truthbits.blog/2020/04/30/shiva-the-patent-shyster/)
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The Propaganda of Dr. Shiva (https://patriots4truth.org/2020/04/29/the-lies-of-dr-shiva/)
.
Shiva Ayyadurai’s Fraud (https://aim4truth.org/2020/04/30/shiva-ayyadurais-fraud/)
AIM article with audio that mentions Robert Kennedy Jr.: The End of the Anti-Vaxxers (https://truthbits.blog/2020/04/30/the-end-of-the-anti-vaccers/). The audio wanders around a lot. At about 38:10 Robert Kennedy Jr is finally brought up. AIM points out that Kennedy brought the anti-vaccine movement right up to the edge of the cliff and then did nothing. Kennedy has also stated the he and all his children are immunized. Kennedy has also said he's not against vaccines, he was never against them. So basically, Kennedy took the anti-vaccine movement nowhere. AIM basically says Kennedy is a shill and a puppet for Soros in this audio, and Shiva is also a puppet for Soros.
Personally, I do remember hearing Kennedy talk this way a while ago and found it quite disappointing. I must admit I have not listened to him recently. It's tough to keep up with all that is going on!;)
onawah
1st May 2020, 18:11
I don't see "AIM reports". Is that a second video? If so, it doesn't automatically show up at the end of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgDXKpUSgc
UPDATE:Never mind--I see it's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgDXKpUSgc ...but it wasn't labeled in your post as "AIM".
I don't agree that RFK Jr. is deliberately covering anything up. I think he is very skilled and savvy in bringing the truth out to the public in a manner that is most effective.
Most people are not ready to accept that they are being poisoned, much less deliberately so via a NWO population-culling agenda.
They can only be coached in the truth step by step, otherwise there is a complete breakdown of communication and trust.
I think the Kennedys have had to learn this from long and painful experience.
JKF was too brash and that brought about his assassination.
It was brave of him to try to expose the CIA and the Fed, but I doubt that he understood what the consequences would be.
I think RFK Jr. understands much better (though perhaps not consciously) and has been taking the only effective course of disclosure possible thus far, which has been step by cautious step.
Shiva may actually help to quicken the process, but he is probably going to pay dearly for it, and it won't be pretty for anyone involved.
But perhaps this is just the way it has to be at this juncture.
It's going to take a LOT of something--just what remains to be seen... before any of the blame will actually arrive at the door of the Queen in a form that enough people will believe.
"Watch the video to see the tenor and tone of Dr. 'Shyster' Shiva. Then stay tuned for AIM reports that show you both of these clowns - Shiva and Kennedy - are globalist vaccine puppets. They are there to keep you from looking at PIRBRIGHT and the Queen's bioweapon war against humanity."
Sarah Rainsong
1st May 2020, 18:12
Now there is a new twist in Dr. Shiva's public behavior from multiple perspectives!
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/critical-questions-for-dr-shiva-about-his-attempts-to-splinter-the-health-freedom-movement/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2743c813-75ca-4890-b581-46054e2d25a6&fbclid=IwAR080o1FhpZ3qcTqjNfAWshrE36msbzQp7ERbUHzPGxHsP_exPSklxsC4x4
y Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman, Children’s Health Defense
For many months I have remained silent in the face of defamatory and dishonest attacks against me by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. My approach was to ignore the sniping to preserve the unity of the Health Freedom Movement. However, Shiva has expanded his malevolent campaign to include venomous salvos against our community’s most prominent and effective leaders, including Del Bigtree, Mark Blaxill, Dr. Rashid Buttar, Polly Tommey and Samoan-Australian activist Taylor Winterstein. Because he now has some of our outstanding spokesmen in his gun-sites, and because his poisonous volleys have begun to damage the solidarity that is critical to our success, I reluctantly make this response.
Little Lies / Big Lies
I had never heard of Shiva when he approached me on the street following a January 6th, 2020 Trenton rally. We had a friendly chat and took a photo. Afterward, he tweeted that I had refused to shake his hand. A half-dozen photos of us shaking hands soon surfaced, proving his statements false. It was only then that I learned he was running as a fringe candidate for U.S. Senate against my nephew, Massachusetts Congressman Joseph Kennedy. It is axiomatic that a man who lies about small things, will also lie about the large. I made a note to fact check Shiva’s assertions. I advise others to take similar precautions.
I am SO CONFOUNDED by the evidence that despite the common ground, there are people who would rather turn on one another than develop alliances. I have been following Dr. Shiva since he "came on the scene" of the effort of alliances of parents to STOP MANDATORY vaccination.
States like California and New York (and then cascading across the US) have politicians determined to prevent anyone (including physicians) from protecting children from FORCED vaccination. IMO Dr. Shiva's focus on this issue was AFTER the law to place decisions about medical exemptions in California with the health departments. He suddenly was very vocal. I was excited because he looked like he had great knowledge to offer.
Immediately he began insinuating that the Vaxxed team was "not so obvious establishment". He immediately began interfering with others' efforts saying they had done too little. He began talking negatively about Del Bigtree, RFK... everyone actually aside from HIMSELF as failures to lead a health freedom movement. He made efforts to smear Tulsi Gabbard. He has LOTS to say disparaging "heros" of the past like MLK and Ghandi (YES, I know they were imperfect) and actually IMO the issue with Dr. Shiva is that he disdains EVERYONE else. In some of his videos about health he implies he is some sort of spiritual avatar. My suspicion is that he does think he is SHIVA.
How do we cooperate with someone who is so angry, vile in interaction and who enjoys tearing apart what other have done?
I think the bolded is a VERY good question, Delight! I was listening to Dr. Shiva yesterday (two different videos, both over an hour long), trying to catch up on some videos while I was painting. I thought he made some very good points! I liked his description of the obvious establishment vs the not-so-obvious establishment. I think he made some good points about the connections between HRC and Gates and the Kennedy's. But I eventually just turned him off, because while he DID make good points, he was also vitriolic and seemed to like to hear himself talk.
He'd ask other people to chime in, they'd say about two words and then he'd jump back in. He really didn't seem to want to let anyone else talk. He sounded very angry to me.
Contrast him to David Paulides, who I also listened to yesterday. Such a huge difference in tone! David Paulides=someone passionate about a cause because they're a compassionate person; Dr. Shiva=someone passionate about a cause because they're angry
(David Paulides doesn't have anything to say about vaccinations/medicine. He researches disappearances. I'll try to link a thread later. The contrast is just comparing approach and tone.)
Maybe Dr. Shiva has a right to be angry, so again, I'm not discrediting him because of that. But I'll find someone else to throw my support behind before I give it to someone that vitriolic and egocentric.
onawah
1st May 2020, 19:01
The fact that Shiva is trying so hard to discredit RFK Jr., Del Bigtree, Dr. Buttar, etc. and with such vitriol, is enough to discredit him and reveal his mental illness (narcissism, which is not just egocentricity, as most think, but a type of real mental disorder which can be very severe and debilitating).
Maybe Dr. Shiva has a right to be angry, so again, I'm not discrediting him because of that. But I'll find someone else to throw my support behind before I give it to someone that vitriolic and egocentric.
Delight
1st May 2020, 22:11
Source: American Intelligence Media (https://aim4truth.org/2020/05/01/cat-report-383/)
Dr.SHIVA and Young Pharaoh DESTROY RACIST Robbie Kennedy, Jr. Party Over!
Streamed live on Apr 28, 2020
WTgDXKpUSgc
"Watch the video to see the tenor and tone of Dr. 'Shyster' Shiva. Then stay tuned for AIM reports that show you both of these clowns - Shiva and Kennedy - are globalist vaccine puppets. They are there to keep you from looking at PIRBRIGHT and the Queen's bioweapon war against humanity."
Shiva the Patent Shyster (https://truthbits.blog/2020/04/30/shiva-the-patent-shyster/)
.
The Propaganda of Dr. Shiva (https://patriots4truth.org/2020/04/29/the-lies-of-dr-shiva/)
.
Shiva Ayyadurai’s Fraud (https://aim4truth.org/2020/04/30/shiva-ayyadurais-fraud/)
AIM article with audio that mentions Robert Kennedy Jr.: The End of the Anti-Vaxxers (https://truthbits.blog/2020/04/30/the-end-of-the-anti-vaccers/). The audio wanders around a lot. At about 38:10 Robert Kennedy Jr is finally brought up. AIM points out that Kennedy brought the anti-vaccine movement right up to the edge of the cliff and then did nothing. Kennedy has also stated the he and all his children are immunized. Kennedy has also said he's not against vaccines, he was never against them. So basically, Kennedy took the anti-vaccine movement nowhere. AIM basically says Kennedy is a shill and a puppet for Soros in this audio, and Shiva is also a puppet for Soros.
Personally, I do remember hearing Kennedy talk this way a while ago and found it quite disappointing. I must admit I have not listened to him recently. It's tough to keep up with all that is going on!;)
RFK has a history and he has a PRESENT (as does Shiva and all of us). In the present, I see RFK genuinely concerned about the sources of ALL poisoning of the planet (and people). I really do not think he is just a shill.
Shiva also cares about health I think.
In the meantime, I am and have been seriously concerned about #1 FORCED medical procedures. My maxim is "Where there is choice, there is a chance".... a chance to change one's mind about outdated and dangerous beliefs, a chance to take personal responsibility for one's own body/family/life.
Many have faulted those who focus on the right to refuse. IMO we SHOULD focus there because if we say, people can decide for themselves, we don't have nearly as much opportunistic arguments.
What is truly horrific is the large number of people who sincerely believe that unvaccinated people are dangerous and should be incarcerated, socially marginalized, ETC ETC...
That is why I feel so despairing when I see people start internecine wars. There could be quite a bit of wasted traction as factions point fingers back and forth, refusing to work together, dividing the "followers".
This instigation of battles is what SHIVA does. That is what makes me wonder because he knows about controlling the opposition and is obviously doing his best to weaken a movement that is at a crisis point.
in•ter•ne•cine ĭn″tər-nĕs′ēn″, -ĭn, -nē′sīn″►
adj. Of or relating to struggle within a nation, organization, or group.
adj. Mutually destructive; ruinous or fatal to both sides.
adj. Characterized by bloodshed or carnage.
Sarah Rainsong
2nd May 2020, 00:15
The fact that Shiva is trying so hard to discredit RFK Jr., Del Bigtree, Dr. Buttar, etc. and with such vitriol, is enough to discredit him and reveal his mental illness (narcissism, which is not just egocentricity, as most think, but a type of real mental disorder which can be very severe and debilitating).
Maybe Dr. Shiva has a right to be angry, so again, I'm not discrediting him because of that. But I'll find someone else to throw my support behind before I give it to someone that vitriolic and egocentric.
I can't disagree with you at all, onawah, I haven't really dived too deep into him, so I'm personally reluctant to pin that label on him, but yeah, he does seem to fit the profile.
Source: American Intelligence Media (https://aim4truth.org/2020/05/01/cat-report-383/)
Dr.SHIVA and Young Pharaoh DESTROY RACIST Robbie Kennedy, Jr. Party Over!
Streamed live on Apr 28, 2020
"Watch the video to see the tenor and tone of Dr. 'Shyster' Shiva. Then stay tuned for AIM reports that show you both of these clowns - Shiva and Kennedy - are globalist vaccine puppets. They are there to keep you from looking at PIRBRIGHT and the Queen's bioweapon war against humanity."
Shiva the Patent Shyster (https://truthbits.blog/2020/04/30/shiva-the-patent-shyster/)
.
The Propaganda of Dr. Shiva (https://patriots4truth.org/2020/04/29/the-lies-of-dr-shiva/)
.
Shiva Ayyadurai’s Fraud (https://aim4truth.org/2020/04/30/shiva-ayyadurais-fraud/)
AIM article with audio that mentions Robert Kennedy Jr.: The End of the Anti-Vaxxers (https://truthbits.blog/2020/04/30/the-end-of-the-anti-vaccers/). The audio wanders around a lot. At about 38:10 Robert Kennedy Jr is finally brought up. AIM points out that Kennedy brought the anti-vaccine movement right up to the edge of the cliff and then did nothing. Kennedy has also stated the he and all his children are immunized. Kennedy has also said he's not against vaccines, he was never against them. So basically, Kennedy took the anti-vaccine movement nowhere. AIM basically says Kennedy is a shill and a puppet for Soros in this audio, and Shiva is also a puppet for Soros.
Personally, I do remember hearing Kennedy talk this way a while ago and found it quite disappointing. I must admit I have not listened to him recently. It's tough to keep up with all that is going on!;)
RFK has a history and he has a PRESENT (as does Shiva and all of us). In the present, I see RFK genuinely concerned about the sources of ALL poisoning of the planet (and people). I really do not think he is just a shill.
Shiva also cares about health I think.
In the meantime, I am and have been seriously concerned about #1 FORCED medical procedures. My maxim is "Where there is choice, there is a chance".... a chance to change one's mind about outdated and dangerous beliefs, a chance to take personal responsibility for one's own body/family/life.
Many have faulted those who focus on the right to refuse. IMO we SHOULD focus there because if we say, people can decide for themselves, we don't have nearly as much opportunistic arguments.
What is truly horrific is the large number of people who sincerely believe that unvaccinated people are dangerous and should be incarcerated, socially marginalized, ETC ETC...
That is why I feel so despairing when I see people start internecine wars. There could be quite a bit of wasted traction as factions point fingers back and forth, refusing to work together, dividing the "followers".
This instigation of battles is what SHIVA does. That is what makes me wonder because he knows about controlling the opposition and is obviously doing his best to weaken a movement that is at a crisis point.
in•ter•ne•cine ĭn″tər-nĕs′ēn″, -ĭn, -nē′sīn″►
adj. Of or relating to struggle within a nation, organization, or group.
adj. Mutually destructive; ruinous or fatal to both sides.
adj. Characterized by bloodshed or carnage.
Another very good point, Delight.
Constance
3rd May 2020, 00:36
In this great video, How You Really Make Decisions made by BBC Horizon in 2016, there was an experiment carried out.
The subjects of the experiment involved a mixture of people, those who were trained intelligence assets and those who were novices. Both were asked to correctly identify who the terrorists were in a mock terrorist attack scenario.
The subjects were asked to thwart a terrorist attack upon a made-up city. They were asked to analyze a wealth of data from all sources such as social media, government agencies, emergency services and mobile phones.
When the subjects were finally asked to correctly identify the terrorists, eleven out of the twelve subjects gave the wrong answer. The eleven who incorrectly identified the terrorists were the trained intelligence assets. The only subject who correctly identified the terrorists was the novice.
What this experiment demonstrated was that experts can also be affected by confirmation bias.
The implications for this are enormous and affect every professional field within society.
We need to look at this unfolding situation with Dr. Shiva, Dr. Bhuttar and Robert Kennedy Jr from every conceivable angle in order to put all the pieces of the puzzle together.
We also need to be open to the possibility that we could be missing the point somewhere and if we are, to make adjustments along the way, much like an astronaut heading to the moon needs to make continuous adjustments to the vehicle due to the affects of gravitational pull. (For those who don't believe that we went to the moon, it is just an analogy folks, it is the best one I have for the moment!:bigsmile:)
My apologies in advance for the link. This was the only link I could find. The BBC have a worldwide copyright on this material.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3q4alx?retry
:heart::heart::heart::sun::sun::sun:
NewParadigmGuy
3rd May 2020, 12:05
He began talking negatively about Del Bigtree, RFK... everyone actually aside from HIMSELF as failures to lead a health freedom movement.
In case anyone is not aware, some of the people Shiva has attacked have donated their time and expertise to making "The Truth about Vaccines 2020" docu-series,, which is available for viewing FREE until tonight. I have been watching this series and appreciate the efforts of Del Bigtree, RFK Jr., Dr. Buttar, Dr. Mikovits and others, including Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, who has for years been a fearless anti-vaccine warrior. (I don't know if Shiva has attacked her, but I really hope not!). Register and watch here:
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NewParadigmGuy
3rd May 2020, 12:19
We need to look at this unfolding situation with Dr. Shiva, Dr. Bhuttar and Robert Kennedy Jr from every conceivable angle in order to put all the pieces of the puzzle together.
The puzzle piece that strikes me as one of the most important is that Shiva is running for elective office in Massachusetts against a Kennedy, a member of a family that is considered to be practically royalty there. He may believe that his approach is the most effective one - whether or not it is remains to be seen.
onawah
4th May 2020, 02:11
Bobby Kennedy’s REAL Views on Vaccines
5/3/20
info@thetruthaboutvaccines.com
(This is an email message sent out by Ty and Charlene Bollinger of Truth About Vaccines https://go2.thetruthaboutvaccines.com/docuseries/order/?utm_campaign=ttav&utm_medium=email&utm_source=all-actives-ttav&utm_content=order-ttav-2020-may3-9pm&a_aid=5903de82cac79
... and I'm pretty sure the guilty party they refer to who edited the featured (rather dated) video to make it look like RFK Jr. is a liar and racist -- is Shiva.
I hope that RFK Jr. will stop characterizing himself as pro-vaccine someday soon, but most likely the majority of people would simply stop listening to him altogether at this point if he did that.
He is probably helping more people to wake up to the dangers by taking the stance he is, which is that the mercury, etc, in vaccines is dangerous, not that the whole "science" behind vaccines was WRONG from the beginning, so anti-vaxxers will have to settle for that for now, presumably.
May the day soon come when ALL the truth can be told!)
"Back in 2015, our good friend, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whom we affectionately call “Bobby,” was invited by Minister Louis Farrakhan to speak at the 20th anniversary of the “Million Man March” in October 2015.
Afterwards, he recorded a video statement of his position on vaccines, in which he clearly articulated his stance. However, recently, there have been videos circulating that have *EDITED* this video to mischaracterize Bobby’s position on vaccines and even his stance on race relations.
When you testify in court, you raise your right hand and take an oath to tell “the truth, the WHOLE truth and nothing but the truth” ... and we’ve all heard the saying that “a half truth is a lie” and we know this to be true. And no, we’re not talking about half truths like peanuts being considered “nuts” (when they’re actually legumes) or koala bears being thought of as “bears” (when they’re actually marsupials).
We’re talking about editing a video so as to purposefully mischaracterize and mislead. And that’s exactly what has been happening.
We have literally had hundreds (if not thousands) of people ask us about Bobby's position on vaccines. So, to set the record straight, or to give you, as Paul Harvey used to say, “the rest of the story,” we just posted the *ENTIRE* video on our Youtube. See for yourself what Bobby really believes about vaccines.
>> Check it out here: kmf_5jZfZgo
In Proverbs 17:15, we read that the LORD hates it when the innocent are condemned. You can apply this however you wish, but it’s what Scripture clearly states.
Also, if you haven’t had a chance to see the round table with Bobby and other vaccine experts, check part 1 and part 2 before we have to take them down.
Thanks again for taking this journey with us, and thanks for taking a stand for health freedom!
Yours in liberty and freedom,
Ty and Charlene
P.S. Here’s a great picture of us with Bobby in December 2019 when we donated to Children’s Health Defense. "
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TomKat
26th May 2021, 09:55
Very interesting lawsuit that Dr. Shiva reports on here. He presents shocking evidence in court that there is formal collusion between government officials and tech media companies to quash criticism of the government.
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Akasha
15th March 2024, 17:16
The good doctor is running for POTUS:
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