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Luke Holiday
12th April 2020, 16:04
Hello,

My intent in starting this thread is get feedback from Project Avalonians after they have looked at the statistical analysis of CV 19 Locked Down countries vs Non-Locked Down countries found in the attatchement.

Using current, as of 4/12/20, CDC and world population data: the analysis looks at 15 countries: 8 on lockdown and 7 not on lockdown and analyzes the percentage of related deaths based on total population, Deaths per million people, culminating in comparing that data to 5 G.

I found that actually seeing the numbers in front of you, in table format, really brings this issue in focus.

Personally, I found the numbers to be remarkable and would greatly like your feedback.

I will hold off on my personal conclusions


I would like to extend the analysis to all countries, but simply do not have the time. If anyone believes this to be an worthwhile project and is willing to assist...let me know....

I wish you all a very Happy Easter !!! :)


Blessings

Luke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNPSG3mHGkE


The relevant chart in the video begins at 6:15

greybeard
12th April 2020, 16:19
Sterling work Luke.
What is perhaps missing the date that the figures relate to -- some countries started to have this virus earlier than others.
Much appreciated
Chris

Luke Holiday
12th April 2020, 16:23
Sterling work Luke.
What is perhaps missing the date that the figures relate to -- some countries started to have this virus earlier than others.
Much appreciated
Chris


thank you Chris - I just added the date - as of 4/11/20 :)

Bill Ryan
12th April 2020, 16:27
The stats from Sweden, Brazil and Belarus will tell their own clear story (whatever that might be) in a week or two.

Luke Holiday
12th April 2020, 16:30
The stats from Sweden, Brazil and Belarus will tell their own clear story (whatever that might be) in a week or two.

… I don't follow - could you elaborate?

thx

greybeard
12th April 2020, 16:39
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110507-Covid19-Don-t-trust-the-statistics--or-the-science-re-the-tests-the-cause-of-the-sickness-&p=1350287&viewfull=1#post1350287

In particular click the link at the top of the page when it opens for comparisons

This may be helpful
Chris

Bill Ryan
12th April 2020, 17:44
The stats from Sweden, Brazil and Belarus will tell their own clear story (whatever that might be) in a week or two.

… I don't follow - could you elaborate?

Sweden, Brazil and Belarus are the three countries which are blatantly doing things very differently from all others. The results of their strategies will show up in their numbers, one way or another, soon.

waves
12th April 2020, 18:36
How do you factor in the total inability for us to verify any statistic, combined with the gigantic amount of lying going on regarding deaths supposedly 'reported', including American Doctors being ORDERED to lie, let alone any death report unverifiable to this 'virus', and considering there is NO valid test yet for this specific CV19 in any country anywhere even?

Also, funny how statistics of deaths from any other flu suddenly disappeared completely!! And I think we'll find the deaths from other average causes.... diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, are also going to suddenly plummet.

I think watching any of these lying statistics will still be worth it and will tell us something... but what a mess.


https://i.postimg.cc/Gp2p2QbT/avalon-signature.jpg

greybeard
12th April 2020, 18:46
How do you factor in the total inability for us to verify any statistic, combined with the gigantic amount of lying going on regarding deaths supposedly 'reported', including American Doctors being ORDERED to lie, let alone any death report unverifiable to this 'virus', and considering there is NO valid test yet for this specific CV19 in any country anywhere even?

Also, funny how statistics of deaths from any other flu suddenly disappeared completely!! And I think we'll find the deaths from other average causes.... diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, are also going to suddenly plummet.

I think watching any of these lying statistics will still be worth it and will tell us something... but what a mess.


https://i.postimg.cc/Gp2p2QbT/avalon-signature.jpg

Yes this virus is not as dangerous as it is hyped up to be.
TPTB are clever there are some fairly accurate figures from the past hidden in there which is why I linked this
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110505-Covid19-Global-reports-news-and-updates&p=1350287&viewfull=1#post1350287
In amongst there is information showing that you are much more likely to die from one of the illnesses you mention than the virus.

Sorry I cant copy the graph on that page.

Chris

Luke Holiday
12th April 2020, 18:53
How do you factor in the total inability for us to verify any statistic, combined with the gigantic amount of lying going on regarding deaths supposedly 'reported', including American Doctors being ORDERED to lie, let alone any death report unverifiable to this 'virus', and considering there is NO valid test yet for this specific CV19 in any country anywhere even?

Also, funny how statistics of deaths from any other flu suddenly disappeared completely!! And I think we'll find the deaths from other average causes.... diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, are also going to suddenly plummet.

I think watching any of these lying statistics will still be worth it and will tell us something... but what a mess.


https://i.postimg.cc/Gp2p2QbT/avalon-signature.jpg

Waves - I 100% agree and thank you for the input...


..However this is the only data available for this type of analysis..

Even with the truth you have elucidated - by just looking at the number of deaths and death rates of the mainstreams testing/statistics - one can make a case against the effectiveness of lockdown and a correlation between 5 G and death rates.

Also, if you look at the table you find that all non-locked down countries in the study have limited to no 5 G. This would suggest that part of the cabal agenda is to have the population in lock down during the rollout. If I correct, then I would expect once the desire to move 5 G into the non-lockdown cities there will be a sudden spike in deaths with a subsequent lockdown.

Be well

Luke Holiday
12th April 2020, 19:13
The stats from Sweden, Brazil and Belarus will tell their own clear story (whatever that might be) in a week or two.

… I don't follow - could you elaborate?

Sweden, Brazil and Belarus are the three countries which are blatantly doing things very differently from all others. The results of their strategies will show up in their numbers, one way or another, soon.


I have looked at data anomaly of Sweden in terms of slightly higher death rate in the non-locked countries. I added the surrounding countries of Norway, Germany, Finland, Poland and Switzerland, who all have extensive/available 5 G, to the table analysis.

Luke Holiday
12th April 2020, 22:08
How do you factor in the total inability for us to verify any statistic, combined with the gigantic amount of lying going on regarding deaths supposedly 'reported', including American Doctors being ORDERED to lie, let alone any death report unverifiable to this 'virus', and considering there is NO valid test yet for this specific CV19 in any country anywhere even?

Also, funny how statistics of deaths from any other flu suddenly disappeared completely!! And I think we'll find the deaths from other average causes.... diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, cancer, are also going to suddenly plummet.

I think watching any of these lying statistics will still be worth it and will tell us something... but what a mess.


https://i.postimg.cc/Gp2p2QbT/avalon-signature.jpg

Yes this virus is not as dangerous as it is hyped up to be.
TPTB are clever there are some fairly accurate figures from the past hidden in there which is why I linked this
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110505-Covid19-Global-reports-news-and-updates&p=1350287&viewfull=1#post1350287
In amongst there is information showing that you are much more likely to die from one of the illnesses you mention than the virus.

Sorry I cant copy the graph on that page.

Chris

This is a thoroughly comprensively look at Covid 19. It is the best post I have seen in putting CV 19 in statistical perspective.

I hope everyone will take the time to read, study and share its content

Thank you Chris for sharing it.

Blessing Luke

shaberon
13th April 2020, 10:12
I have been tracking the same, but just my state v. Sweden, about the same population. The only real difference is that ten times as many Swedes have died. Spread is about the same, and in both places, the heavy concentration is at nursing homes and with black people. Almost all of my local cases are at a single nursing home.

As to how twisted and arbitrary the numbers are due to automatic assignments or lack of a precise test, I cannot say. They may have some false positives, but, more likely, the "novel" virus is already in a quarter to a third of the total population, and it is actually not very dangerous, until it finds someone who for some reason is vulnerable.

Luke Holiday
13th April 2020, 19:20
I have been tracking the same, but just my state v. Sweden, about the same population. The only real difference is that ten times as many Swedes have died. Spread is about the same, and in both places, the heavy concentration is at nursing homes and with black people. Almost all of my local cases are at a single nursing home.

As to how twisted and arbitrary the numbers are due to automatic assignments or lack of a precise test, I cannot say. They may have some false positives, but, more likely, the "novel" virus is already in a quarter to a third of the total population, and it is actually not very dangerous, until it finds someone who for some reason is vulnerable.


… I am hearing conflicting reports MSM reporting deaths are out of control and David icke Provided an article reporting dramatic decrease in the mortality rate. CDC reports 12 deaths over ther weekend which sound like a decrease?

Luke Holiday
13th April 2020, 19:58
Quick update from a collegue regarding Taiwan,

Taiwan is a nonlockdown country with the lowest mortality rate of the 19 countries used in the study. He provides the following:

Thank you Luke for this informative comparison chart of lockdown vs non-lockdown countries. I noticed that among the non-lockdown countries (even when compared to lockdown counties), Taiwan seems to have dealt with this pandemic very well! So what have they done?

Taiwan was one of the countries impacted by SARS in 2003, and they have learned their lessons. The Taiwan government started mandatory quarantine for all travelers arriving from affected regions very early, made sure there was no hoarding of medical supplies, aggressively tracking and treating infected people, and spending tons of money/time educating everyone on how to prevent disease transmission. So, maybe non-lockdown is a possible model, but it needs to be implemented with coordinated efforts from both the government and the public.

Here's a recent video (~4 minutes) posted by a Canadian living in Taiwan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Cq08VTmJg

shaberon
13th April 2020, 20:21
Yes, death almost took a holiday.

Since these statistical averages are made of pockets, and compartmentalized, it is possible something like that is where it took its toll on a whole nursing home and finished there. It is hard to know, even 100 counties around here, the types and releases of information are not consistent.

Take the Roosevelt as an example. It enters the picture on x day, and as of now, one death. So it will completely go through there, and after whatever it does fairly quickly, then they run out of numbers, and it looks like a decrease. We definitely have what could be described as localized storms instead of a cloud over everything.

They just reported another nursing home with something like 47, but, at large, there are hardly any, less than a hundred anywhere near here. Actually the governor has spoken favorably about easing restrictions, and someone made a decent decision along the lines of sewage testing:

"Berger has repeatedly called for random sample testing in North Carolina to determine the extent of the virus, suggesting that restrictions Gov. Roy Cooper has put in place to curb the virus have been overdone."

So they are sending out 1,000 test kits randomly, looking for antibodies. My guess is that to the extent "random" winds up in the areas that have been exposed, there will be quite a few more than ever complained of anything. I am not a doctor but I believe this will provide more precise information than the sewer.

shaberon
14th April 2020, 21:47
It is possible Canada (https://en.farsnews.ir/newstext.aspx?nn=13990126000951) has a lucid version of what I was trying to say above: they expect many more problems in nursing homes, while it looks like the overall spread is slackening.

shaberon
19th April 2020, 14:30
I don't think we can match Sweden step for step.

In ten days they went from 4 to 10 thousand cases (and are noticeably beyond that now). Here, it went from 4 to maybe 6,500, out of over 70,000 tests. The hospitalizations are actually decreasing.

Even if the tests and large pile of information are not very accurate, the number of people who are sick enough to be incapacitated is very tangible--it just is not very large. If we were not mostly kicked out of public and that number doubled, would it be a strain? Maybe. But we do not really know that normal function would double it.

Even though it looks worse than here, Sweden (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-says-controversial-covid-19-strategy-is-proving-effective) considers themselves not as bad off as the hot spots, UK, Italy, etc.

graciousb
23rd April 2020, 22:40
I don't think we can match Sweden step for step.

In ten days they went from 4 to 10 thousand cases (and are noticeably beyond that now). Here, it went from 4 to maybe 6,500, out of over 70,000 tests. The hospitalizations are actually decreasing.

Even if the tests and large pile of information are not very accurate, the number of people who are sick enough to be incapacitated is very tangible--it just is not very large. If we were not mostly kicked out of public and that number doubled, would it be a strain? Maybe. But we do not really know that normal function would double it.

Even though it looks worse than here, Sweden (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-says-controversial-covid-19-strategy-is-proving-effective) considers themselves not as bad off as the hot spots, UK, Italy, etc.

But the 'cases' in the stats includes people testing positive who are not sick or have mild symptoms. I'm in California, we've been on strict lockdown for many weeks, yet mass testing (I spoke to a nurse yesterday in Orange County where I was getting tested myself, she tested a company of 400 and had 50 positives, 30 were positive for antibodies, and 20 had active infection but no one extremely sick, I don't know demographics of the employees) , showing the thing is transmitting anyway. The lockdown is just prolonging the misery really.

shaberon
24th April 2020, 01:55
But the 'cases' in the stats includes people testing positive who are not sick or have mild symptoms.

Yes I think the case numbers will do nothing but show it has already passed a big chunk of the population and most people therefor do not have much to worry about.

So far I have not really heard a Swedish case where it wiped out a school.

Resources would be better spent doing more for the few who need it than trying to do all kinds of things to everybody.

Here, we did not get close to Sweden's rate of spread, or the numbers of serious cases, it would probably take over a hundred more at all times before the hospitals would be stressed.

DaveToo
24th April 2020, 03:49
The stats from Sweden, Brazil and Belarus will tell their own clear story (whatever that might be) in a week or two.

… I don't follow - could you elaborate?

Sweden, Brazil and Belarus are the three countries which are blatantly doing things very differently from all others. The results of their strategies will show up in their numbers, one way or another, soon.

And so the "results of their strategies" have shown up in their numbers, for these naughty, non-complying (gasp) non-lockdown countries.

Less than two weeks from your post we can see clear trends have developed with these three countries: Belarus, Brazil and Sweden.

Belarus likely peaked already, a nothing burger here.
With a population of 9.5 million and a whopping total of 8022 cases and 60 deaths.

That is not a spike in the case/death rate in the Belarus chart a few days ago. They simply didn’t include the tallies from the two previous days and lumped them all together for one day (three in one day).

https://i.postimg.cc/rzRGXMJV/Belarus.jpg (https://postimg.cc/rzRGXMJV)

Brazil likely peaked, certainly nothing extraordinary happening there.
With a population of 212 million the number of cases and deaths are like a drop in a bucket.; 50,036 cases and 3,331 deaths.

https://i.postimg.cc/yD3C0JXq/Brazil.jpg (https://postimg.cc/yD3C0JXq)

Sweden is likely close to peaking.
With a population of 10 million it has 16,755 cases and 2,021 deaths. Certainly nothing
to write home about.

https://i.postimg.cc/Js4pZSb9/Sweden.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Js4pZSb9)

Considering the sizes of these countries, the number of cases and deaths in each is laughable really as far as fear and contagion goes.
And they’ve accomplished this all by bucking the trend and not locking down.

If you click on each chart you can see a bigger version.
This is the ‘key’ for the charts:
series 2 = cases
series 1 = deaths

Luke Holiday
24th April 2020, 04:30
The stats from Sweden, Brazil and Belarus will tell their own clear story (whatever that might be) in a week or two.

… I don't follow - could you elaborate?

Sweden, Brazil and Belarus are the three countries which are blatantly doing things very differently from all others. The results of their strategies will show up in their numbers, one way or another, soon.

And so the "results of their strategies" have shown up in their numbers, for these naughty, non-complying (gasp) non-lockdown countries.

Less than two weeks from your post we can see clear trends have developed with these three countries: Belarus, Brazil and Sweden.

Belarus likely peaked already, a nothing burger here.
With a population of 9.5 million and a whopping total of 8022 cases and 60 deaths.

That is not a spike in the case/death rate in the Belarus chart a few days ago. They simply didn’t include the tallies from the two previous days and lumped them all together for one day (three in one day).

https://i.postimg.cc/rzRGXMJV/Belarus.jpg (https://postimg.cc/rzRGXMJV)

Brazil likely peaked, certainly nothing extraordinary happening there.
With a population of 212 million the number of cases and deaths are like a drop in a bucket.; 50,036 cases and 3,331 deaths.

https://i.postimg.cc/yD3C0JXq/Brazil.jpg (https://postimg.cc/yD3C0JXq)

Sweden is likely close to peaking.
With a population of 10 million it has 16,755 cases and 2,021 deaths. Certainly nothing
to write home about.

https://i.postimg.cc/Js4pZSb9/Sweden.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Js4pZSb9)

Considering the sizes of these countries, the number of cases and deaths in each is laughable really as far as fear and contagion goes.
And they’ve accomplished this all by bucking the trend and not locking down.

If you click on each chart you can see a bigger version.
This is the ‘key’ for the charts:
series 2 = cases
series 1 = deaths

… well done!!! - where did you get your graphs and stats? for the last 2 weeks - did you have to do the laborious plug and chug?

Be well

Luke

DaveToo
24th April 2020, 05:17
… well done!!! - where did you get your graphs and stats? for the last 2 weeks - did you have to do the laborious plug and chug?

Be well

Luke

Thanks Luke!

I have been keeping track of 60+ countries for the past few weeks.
I create graphs daily, using the data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).
I wrote macros in Excel to simplify the graph creations.

A picture is worth a thousand words as they say, and these graphs are how I start each day.

I can quickly zero in on the 'hot spot' countries at just a glance.

The daily fear-porn that the MSM produces is totally useless.
Each day you see headlines of 2,725,920 Covid-19 CASES and 191,061 DEATHS etc.
and the big numbers are in red and seem really scary to the public.

But what good are they if you have no point of reference?

If the MSM had any guts, each and every day they would publish the following numbers in their headlines:

Total worldwide Covid-19 cases 'a'
Total worldwide Seasonal flu cases 'b'

Total worldwide Covid-19 deaths 'c'
Total worldwide Seasonal flu deaths 'd'

Then people with half a brain would begin to say to themselves... "Gee, what's the big deal with this Covid-19 virus?
I can clearly see that it's not nearly as dangerous as the seasonal flu!"

onawah
24th April 2020, 05:35
Millions Are Being Murdered | The Killer Cure
Apr 23, 2020
Suspicious0bservers
462K subscribers

"Antibody tests worldwide confirm VAST exposure to coronavirus, which means the real kill rate is exceptionally low. They shut down the world over a flu-level kill rate. The real harm is caused by the halt of society, which supports the existence of 7 billion people. They have sentenced millions to death with their 'cure' because of the poverty and hunger it has created.

Before working in physics, Ben Davidson worked with the Ceragenin compound group, discovering the membrane depolarization mechanism of action involving cationic attachment and deconstruction via hydrophobic tail activity. The compounds are well-understood to be anti-viral and mimic the activity of the human body's own immune system. None of this is relevant in this discussion of the statistics, but some people demand to know why you deserve the microphone on a given topic."

F-2C27YLCGE

greybeard
24th April 2020, 07:46
onawah I am surprised at the number of Avalon members who dont seem to get that the "virus" is mainly a hyped event.
The fear story seems to be bought into.
I really wish people would look into the aftermath of lockdown -- the heart break suffering that this is causing instead of being stuck in -- is this a flu or a virus should we wear the mask? leading to inoculation no doubt.
People dont seem aware to the degree they are being brain washed.
Tell the same lie over and over and it becomes believed.
Your posts, onawah, are a welcome pointer to the truth.
Chris

Luke Holiday
24th April 2020, 12:48
Here is Tucker reporting on the states in the US that are not on lockdown and of course we have the same story... part begins at 30 sec


enjoyhttps://youtu.be/MuuA0azQRGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuuA0azQRGQ


… I don't know about you but I'm gettin a little peeved - I want retribution! :) … Or at least let me go to the GD beach :) and the gym!!!

Blessings luke

Luke Holiday
24th April 2020, 12:51
… well done!!! - where did you get your graphs and stats? for the last 2 weeks - did you have to do the laborious plug and chug?

Be well

Luke

Thanks Luke!

I have been keeping track of 60+ countries for the past few weeks.
I create graphs daily, using the data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).
I wrote macros in Excel to simplify the graph creations.

A picture is worth a thousand words as they say, and these graphs are how I start each day.

I can quickly zero in on the 'hot spot' countries at just a glance.

The daily fear-porn that the MSM produces is totally useless.
Each day you see headlines of 2,725,920 Covid-19 CASES and 191,061 DEATHS etc.
and the big numbers are in red and seem really scary to the public.

But what good are they if you have no point of reference?

If the MSM had any guts, each and every day they would publish the following numbers in their headlines:

Total worldwide Covid-19 cases 'a'
Total worldwide Seasonal flu cases 'b'

Total worldwide Covid-19 deaths 'c'
Total worldwide Seasonal flu deaths 'd'

Then people with half a brain would begin to say to themselves... "Gee, what's the big deal with this Covid-19 virus?
I can clearly see that it's not nearly as dangerous as the seasonal flu!"

Agreed... and that's is why we have to do it here:) Thanks again - that is truly stellar work!!!

pueblo
24th April 2020, 14:16
I don't think we can match Sweden step for step.

In ten days they went from 4 to 10 thousand cases (and are noticeably beyond that now). Here, it went from 4 to maybe 6,500, out of over 70,000 tests. The hospitalizations are actually decreasing.

Even if the tests and large pile of information are not very accurate, the number of people who are sick enough to be incapacitated is very tangible--it just is not very large. If we were not mostly kicked out of public and that number doubled, would it be a strain? Maybe. But we do not really know that normal function would double it.

Even though it looks worse than here, Sweden (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-says-controversial-covid-19-strategy-is-proving-effective) considers themselves not as bad off as the hot spots, UK, Italy, etc.

But the 'cases' in the stats includes people testing positive who are not sick or have mild symptoms. I'm in California, we've been on strict lockdown for many weeks, yet mass testing (I spoke to a nurse yesterday in Orange County where I was getting tested myself, she tested a company of 400 and had 50 positives, 30 were positive for antibodies, and 20 had active infection but no one extremely sick, I don't know demographics of the employees) , showing the thing is transmitting anyway. The lockdown is just prolonging the misery really.

Dr. Erickson from Bakersfield, CA agress with you..

The chance of dying from Covid-19 in California? 0.03%

xfLVxx_lBLU

Luke Holiday
24th April 2020, 17:00
Millions Are Being Murdered | The Killer Cure
Apr 23, 2020
Suspicious0bservers
462K subscribers

"Antibody tests worldwide confirm VAST exposure to coronavirus, which means the real kill rate is exceptionally low. They shut down the world over a flu-level kill rate. The real harm is caused by the halt of society, which supports the existence of 7 billion people. They have sentenced millions to death with their 'cure' because of the poverty and hunger it has created.

Before working in physics, Ben Davidson worked with the Ceragenin compound group, discovering the membrane depolarization mechanism of action involving cationic attachment and deconstruction via hydrophobic tail activity. The compounds are well-understood to be anti-viral and mimic the activity of the human body's own immune system. None of this is relevant in this discussion of the statistics, but some people demand to know why you deserve the microphone on a given topic."

F-2C27YLCGE

Onawah,

I was confused by this post, do you agree or disagree, were you addressing myself of anyone else on the thread? If you have the time could you clarify. :)


Thanks


luke

onawah
24th April 2020, 17:10
From all that I've read, I think Davidson is right, and that the virus is causing no more deaths than seasonal flu, but that the lockdown is going to cause millions of deaths, mostly of those people all over the world who are living from hand to mouth.
(And he's generally a good source of info, though his usual focus is investigating solar activity, earthquakes, astrophysics and weather.)
And I agree that the vaccine for it will do more harm than good.
I think the elite's de-population agenda is what is behind this whole scenario.
That was my only reason for posting that info.




Onawah,

I was confused by this post, do you agree or disagree, were you addressing myself of anyone else on the thread? If you have the time could you clarify. :)


Thanks


luke

Luke Holiday
24th April 2020, 20:50
From all that I've read, I think Davidson is right, and that the virus is causing no more deaths than seasonal flu, but that the lockdown is going to cause millions of deaths, mostly of those people all over the world who are living from hand to mouth.
(And he's generally a good source of info, though his usual focus is investigating solar activity, earthquakes, astrophysics and weather.)
And I agree that the vaccine for it will do more harm than good.
I think the elite's de-population agenda is what is behind this whole scenario.
That was my only reason for posting that info.




Onawah,

I was confused by this post, do you agree or disagree, were you addressing myself of anyone else on the thread? If you have the time could you clarify. :)


Thanks


luke

From all that I've read, I think Davidson is right, and that the virus is causing no more deaths than seasonal flu

Thank you for responding back
...hard to say - even if you trust the stats.. so many reports of inflated numbers coming from a variety of sources, huge financial incentives being offered for the Covid 19 death certificate diagnosis.

Certainly the MSM is giving that impression

Does anyone have the current number comparisons, CV 19 vs influenza even the stats - my guess you are right CV19 will be higher.

DaveToo
24th April 2020, 22:29
Thank the Lord for controls!
Anyone who comes from a scientific background knows just how important controls are in experiments.

Thankfully we have many countries and states that can be used as controls
to see how effective or non-effective lockdowns have been.

This is VITALLY IMPORTANT because no MSM outlet nor government will be able to say when this is over, "You see it was our strict lockdown measures that saved lives. We had no other choice but to ruin economies".


I will add a few more non-lockdown countries that are doing very well thank you very much.

Japan pop. 126 million
12,368 cases
328 deaths
likely peaked already

Iceland pop. 341 K
1,789 cases
10 deaths
Peaked three weeks ago

Taiwan pop. 23 Mill
428 cases
6 deaths
Peaked over a month ago
https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/taiwan-no-lockdowns-no-closed-businesses-non-who-member-and-relatively-unaffected-by-covid-19/

South Korea pop. 51 Mill
10,708 cases
240 deaths
Peaked over a month ago

If anyone wants any graphs of these countries let me know and I'll post them.
:sun:

graciousb
24th April 2020, 22:44
onawah I am surprised at the number of Avalon members who dont seem to get that the "virus" is mainly a hyped event.
The fear story seems to be bought into.
I really wish people would look into the aftermath of lockdown -- the heart break suffering that this is causing instead of being stuck in -- is this a flu or a virus should we wear the mask? leading to inoculation no doubt.
People dont seem aware to the degree they are being brain washed.
Tell the same lie over and over and it becomes believed.
Your posts, onawah, are a welcome pointer to the truth.
Chris

It's feeling to me like some kind of religion or ideology, a litmus test of good character a la 1950s ''red scare'' in the US where your willingless to believe was a sign of good citizen, or the witch scares of late middle ages where there was a witch or devil behind every door, and rooting them out signaled your virtue. So nonbelievers in Church of Covid are blasphemers and bad actors willing to harm the vulnerable and thus worthy of being dragged in the press and social media. Haven't we been through this rodeo before? When will we wake up.

Luke Holiday
24th April 2020, 22:48
Thank the Lord for controls!
Anyone who comes from a scientific background knows just how important controls are in experiments.

Thankfully we have many countries and states that can be used as controls
to see how effective or non-effective lockdowns have been.

This is VITALLY IMPORTANT because no MSM outlet nor government will be able to say when this is over, "You see it was our strict lockdown measures that saved lives. We had no other choice but to ruin economies".


I will add a few more non-lockdown countries that are doing very well thank you very much.

Japan pop. 126 million
12,368 cases
328 deaths
likely peaked already

Iceland pop. 341 K
1,789 cases
10 deaths
Peaked three weeks ago

Taiwan pop. 23 Mill
428 cases
6 deaths
Peaked over a month ago
https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/taiwan-no-lockdowns-no-closed-businesses-non-who-member-and-relatively-unaffected-by-covid-19/

South Korea pop. 51 Mill
10,708 cases
240 deaths
Peaked over a month ago

If anyone wants any graphs of these countries let me know and I'll post them.
:sun:

Yes please :)… and thanks again for doing the leg work :muscle: OH just to be clear the numbers in red are just for this week?

Luke Holiday
24th April 2020, 22:52
onawah I am surprised at the number of Avalon members who dont seem to get that the "virus" is mainly a hyped event.
The fear story seems to be bought into.
I really wish people would look into the aftermath of lockdown -- the heart break suffering that this is causing instead of being stuck in -- is this a flu or a virus should we wear the mask? leading to inoculation no doubt.
People dont seem aware to the degree they are being brain washed.
Tell the same lie over and over and it becomes believed.
Your posts, onawah, are a welcome pointer to the truth.
Chris

It's feeling to me like some kind of religion or ideology, a litmus test of good character a la 1950s ''red scare'' in the US where your willingless to believe was a sign of good citizen, or the witch scares of late middle ages where there was a witch or devil behind every door, and rooting them out signaled your virtue. So nonbelievers in Church of Covid are blasphemers and bad actors willing to harm the vulnerable and thus worthy of being dragged in the press and social media. Haven't we been through this rodeo before? When will we wake up.

I agree and I think this is why stories of death number manipulation c/b with statistics where people can look at the numbers (of likely inflated numbers) can be a powerful tool to change minds and in the long run - save lives

Luke

Chester
24th April 2020, 22:57
http://merlynagain.blogspot.com/2020/04/we-are-facing-infodemic-that-has.html

Enjoy

Posted February 26, 2020 here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?109753-The-Wuhan-Coronavirus-Covid-19-the-Honey-Badger-virus&p=1337973&viewfull=1#post1337973)-


Today is prediction day for me. You can slam me later on when (if) I am proven wrong.

I believe the freakout about COVID-19 will be looked upon as "way overblown."

Those who have allowed themselves to be "self-educated" by observing the dynamics of "public perception manipulation" (especially by taking the advanced, accelerated "courses" in such... those that have been so prevalent the last several years) have learned to observe "what they are telling us" and then "gauge the degree of fear" these efforts are attempting to achieve... then analyze these two within the framework of what "they" wish to achieve, and then...

...conclude quite the opposite!

Since I have begun to employ, with discipline and consistency, this very approach, I have found my accuracy rate of my conclusions which inform my predictions has been raised exponentially.

This COVID-19 will prove to be so.

Luke Holiday
24th April 2020, 23:04
Here is a link I think everyone in the US may be interested in:

https://bestlifeonline.com/when-will-my-state-lockdown-end/

1more week for me :)


Be well and when this is over - may we all dance like no one is watching!!!

… be sure to tap on Ms Bennes

Luke

DaveToo
24th April 2020, 23:55
Does anyone have the current number comparisons, CV 19 vs influenza even the stats - my guess you are right CV19 will be higher.

Best to get stats straight from the horse's mouth.

The U.S. CDC estimates that, from October 1, 2019, through April 4, 2020, there have been:

24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths

If we take the middle of the estimate, we get 43,000 flu deaths.

Remember that is as of April 4, 2020

As of today, April 24, 2020 we have 52,092 Covid-19 deaths.

So if we add the flu deaths from Apr 4 to Apr 24, we will come up with roughly the same number of deaths.

But I have come up with a much bigger discovery today.
More to follow soon! :)

DaveToo
25th April 2020, 00:31
Yes please … and thanks again for doing the leg work :muscle: OH just to be clear the numbers in red are just for this week?

NO !!!!
Those numbers are the TOTAL deaths!!!


Here are the charts you asked for:

Japan:
https://i.postimg.cc/4HXhWSmY/Japan.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4HXhWSmY)

Iceland:
https://i.postimg.cc/cKsCyndz/Iceland.jpg (https://postimg.cc/cKsCyndz)

Taiwan:
https://i.postimg.cc/HVgChCYZ/Taiwan.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HVgChCYZ)

That spike you see in this Taiwan graph is not for one day!
Data was not provided for three straight days, as you can see in the graph.
So the spike is FOUR day's worth of data!

South Korea:
https://i.postimg.cc/K3bsJxPt/South-Korea.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K3bsJxPt)

graciousb
25th April 2020, 03:54
onawah I am surprised at the number of Avalon members who dont seem to get that the "virus" is mainly a hyped event.
The fear story seems to be bought into.
I really wish people would look into the aftermath of lockdown -- the heart break suffering that this is causing instead of being stuck in -- is this a flu or a virus should we wear the mask? leading to inoculation no doubt.
People dont seem aware to the degree they are being brain washed.
Tell the same lie over and over and it becomes believed.
Your posts, onawah, are a welcome pointer to the truth.
Chris




I don't think we can match Sweden step for step.

In ten days they went from 4 to 10 thousand cases (and are noticeably beyond that now). Here, it went from 4 to maybe 6,500, out of over 70,000 tests. The hospitalizations are actually decreasing.

Even if the tests and large pile of information are not very accurate, the number of people who are sick enough to be incapacitated is very tangible--it just is not very large. If we were not mostly kicked out of public and that number doubled, would it be a strain? Maybe. But we do not really know that normal function would double it.

Even though it looks worse than here, Sweden (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-says-controversial-covid-19-strategy-is-proving-effective) considers themselves not as bad off as the hot spots, UK, Italy, etc.

But the 'cases' in the stats includes people testing positive who are not sick or have mild symptoms. I'm in California, we've been on strict lockdown for many weeks, yet mass testing (I spoke to a nurse yesterday in Orange County where I was getting tested myself, she tested a company of 400 and had 50 positives, 30 were positive for antibodies, and 20 had active infection but no one extremely sick, I don't know demographics of the employees) , showing the thing is transmitting anyway. The lockdown is just prolonging the misery really.

Dr. Erickson from Bakersfield, CA agress with you..

The chance of dying from Covid-19 in California? 0.03%

xfLVxx_lBLU

Thank you SO MUCH for posting that! Their calm, measured, factual, on the ground science based information presented so powerfully, even staying gracious with the reporters ignorant questions and lack of listening, made me actually choke up in sheer relief.

DaveToo
25th April 2020, 05:02
Does anyone have the current number comparisons, CV 19 vs influenza even the stats - my guess you are right CV19 will be higher.

I do have the stats as I pointed out in one of my latest posts.

But I am watching right now perhaps THE best video I've watched over the past couple of months on this.
It was mentioned recently:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110644-Lockdown-vs-Non-lockdown-A-statistical-perspective&p=1353017&viewfull=1#post1353017

He also covers your question at the 17:00 mark.

Dr. Erickson nails all the points I have been trying to make for weeks now.

And the bonus is that he and his colleague are MD's !!!
Now that adds a lot of clout!

It is an absolute MUST view.

onawah
25th April 2020, 06:57
It seems the elite of China and of the US are actually working together, trying to push the public through fear into a lockstep toward an Orwellian NWO, implemented through a fear and dumbing down program, with the end result of a "social credit system" such as we already see in China, which would grow only more and more Draconian in time.
See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110505-Covid19-Global-reports-news-and-updates&p=1353140&viewfull=1#post1353140



onawah I am surprised at the number of Avalon members who dont seem to get that the "virus" is mainly a hyped event.
The fear story seems to be bought into.
I really wish people would look into the aftermath of lockdown -- the heart break suffering that this is causing instead of being stuck in -- is this a flu or a virus should we wear the mask? leading to inoculation no doubt.
People dont seem aware to the degree they are being brain washed.
Tell the same lie over and over and it becomes believed.
Your posts, onawah, are a welcome pointer to the truth.
Chris

It's feeling to me like some kind of religion or ideology, a litmus test of good character a la 1950s ''red scare'' in the US where your willingless to believe was a sign of good citizen, or the witch scares of late middle ages where there was a witch or devil behind every door, and rooting them out signaled your virtue. So nonbelievers in Church of Covid are blasphemers and bad actors willing to harm the vulnerable and thus worthy of being dragged in the press and social media. Haven't we been through this rodeo before? When will we wake up.

greybeard
25th April 2020, 07:03
Agree DaveToo.
These Drs have properly researched the numbers and their conclusions echo what I said in my very first post on the subject.
No worse than the seasonal flu -- more people die of other things.
Lockdown unnecessary for the workforce.
The consequences of the "cure" much worse than the disease -- millions loosing their jobs.
Who will pay the mortgage?
Many will become homeless.
Chris

pueblo
25th April 2020, 08:10
Thank you SO MUCH for posting that! Their calm, measured, factual, on the ground science based information presented so powerfully, even staying gracious with the reporters ignorant questions and lack of listening, made me actually choke up in sheer relief.

You are welcome, it had the same effect on me!

It's nice to hear rational common sense applied to this 'situation', so tired of all the blatantly misplaced fear being pushed by many atm.

Chester
25th April 2020, 16:15
Agree DaveToo.
These Drs have properly researched the numbers and their conclusions echo what I said in my very first post on the subject.
No worse than the seasonal flu -- more people die of other things.
Lockdown unnecessary for the workforce.
The consequences of the "cure" much worse than the disease -- millions loosing their jobs.
Who will pay the mortgage?
Many will become homeless.
Chris

Just what the "Dr." ordered.

araucaria
25th April 2020, 16:20
I take two things from this excellent press conference.



1) apart from everything else, the lockdown will be having a negative effect on everyone’s immune system, and fear is a part of this. So do what you can to protect it.


2) it is sufficient to be an academic of 20 years standing without seeing a patient to have a very distorted view of the situation. A theory is a useful starting point until data begins coming in to contradict it.


Combining the two, it seems clear that this is not a time to be entertaining conspiracy theories, for the bigger they are, the more fear they instill. Regardless of the reality or otherwise of such scenarios, much better stick to the baseline idea that Dr Fauci is in his ivory tower, and needs to get out a bit more, as do the rest of us. There is much more chance of getting someone to back down by telling them they were right but things have changed than by telling them they are evil people planning on doing even worse things. It's called diplomacy.


Here is an article from Le Monde (https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2020/04/24/coronavirus-age-sexe-departement-la-hausse-de-la-mortalite-francaise-en-six-graphiques_6037681_4355770.html) with some figures for France. On April 17, compared with 2018 (the worst recent year), there were 13,349 extra deaths in 2020. On that day 18,681 covid deaths had been reported. This means that 5,332 deaths out of the 13,349 extra deaths were due to other causes (comorbidities), and hence 29% of the reported covid deaths were due to something else. This is supposing that this year would otherwise have been as bad as the worst in the last five years. It might not have been that bad, and of course it might have been worse still. But if we took an average figure, this 29% figure would be even higher.


Something to watch out for: the doctors warn of a massive kickback in health issues after lockdown is lifted. There is a real danger that these patients will be recycled back to the covid monster, which would only be an excuse for more lockdown. So, if you are going to have anything at this time, it might be a good idea – if you can :) – to catch shingles or at least (since shingles is not a good idea) something else entirely unrelated to this virus.

shaberon
27th April 2020, 20:14
Here is a counter-point: Nepal (https://www.globalresearch.ca/have-nepal-people-managed-healthy-breakthrough-covid-19-crisis/5710819).

In Nepal, there is no such thing as a "medical system". They have to import food since a large portion of the population works in other countries. In mid-March, they found three infected individuals returning from abroad.

The response was nothing medical, but an immediate, utter lockdown, no one around but police.

As of now they have come to forty-eight infections and zero deaths.

There are about thirty million of them, three times the size of Sweden. They perhaps lack nursing homes, aircraft carriers, or a large prison industry, so there are no ideal breeding grounds.

In the long run, they will have to "re-open" and of course this will allow it to spread, but for the time being, they have yet to make a statistic.

Gwin Ru
29th April 2020, 15:30
Here is the YouTube-disappeared video on Bitchute:


Dr. Erickson COVID-19 Briefing - Full Video
oGVRqleTzzMi
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oGVRqleTzzMi/



https://static-3.bitchute.com/live/channel_images/pLaSaW5Qi1jT/m1dSsvzuu0e7HEdDZW2GAvmR_small.jpg (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/ramzpaul/) RAMZPAUL (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/ramzpaul/) ramzpaul (https://www.bitchute.com/profile/xGqTKdidDVZM/)

This is a video two California medical doctors (immunologists) who presented their data concerning COVID-19. Because their findings conflicted with the globalist narrative, YouTube censors banned it.

Mark (Star Mariner)
30th April 2020, 12:57
Found this interesting, a precedent for this present lockdown 100 years ago.

43494

And also this, which is quite profound. There is nothing new under the sun, it is said. Couldn't agree more.

43493

Gwin Ru
2nd May 2020, 12:36
How to manipulate a beholder's perspective...


Telephoto-lens

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/different-perspective-telephoto-lens-vs-wide-angle-philip-davali-5eaa7be6a92a7__700.jpg
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/different-perspective-telephoto-lens-vs-wide-angle-philip-davali-5eaa7be6a92a7__700.jpg



Wide angle

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/different-perspective-telephoto-lens-vs-wide-angle-philip-davali-5eaa7be872653__700.jpg https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/different-perspective-telephoto-lens-vs-wide-angle-philip-davali-5eaa7be872653__700.jpg

Gwin Ru
2nd May 2020, 14:37
MK0shLq9x6c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0shLq9x6c&feature=emb_logo)

Del Bigtree – Dr. Erickson


https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJzJJh7kDTEV1L4nKXR_fk48GtafKxfhuTj8FQ=s48-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q) The HighWire with Del Bigtree (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q)
119K subscribers

CENSORED DOC DOUBLES DOWN
Dr. Daniel Erickson, owner of seven CA urgent care facilities, was thrown into the spotlight after his press conference on the COVID 19 stirred up enough controversy to get censored by YouTube. Here’s Del’s follow-up interview and this doc’s message is clear: he is not backing down. #CensoredDocs (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23CensoredDocs)

shaberon
4th May 2020, 02:17
Red is the reality in Sweden (https://www.globalresearch.ca/why-sweden-won-debate-covid-lockdown-policy/5711576), compared to Ferguson's computer modeling:

https://36s81n24kn0c1i9se62v6acw-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/SWEDEN-CHART-1.jpg




As of today, Sweden, which has a population of roughly 10.5 million, has recorded 21,092 cases and 2,586 fatalities from COVID-19, that’s roughly 256 deaths per million people.

Assume a million people evenly-distributed in a sphere, with exactly one standard atmosphere of pressure and relative humidity 65%.

I mean, when you compare it to Scnadinavia, Freetown is not Svalbard, and 1/3 of Sweden's nursing homes that we know are effected were not at the cafe'. You can, tangibly, say there's 2500-ish over there who had flu-like symptoms, but there aren't really these ideal samples of "a million" and so forth as charts suggest. It's all clusters of different areas which are very specific, not evenly-spread like icing on a cake.

Even without much legal force, though, their business capacity is running at something like 20%, and it is reasonable to say that "opening" any shut-down place will not "open" anything, because if people remain somewhat cautious, no one is likely to want to go out in bigger numbers than is seen in Sweden.

I certainly don't see them being felled like a tree due to a relaxed policy, but, it is possible the public as a whole is not going to do much any time soon, anywhere, out of their own inhibition.

Gwin Ru
5th May 2020, 00:39
Lockdown Stockholm Syndrome: Loving economic destruction and loss of liberty (http://www.theblogmire.com/lockdown-stockholm-syndrome/)

Rob Slane The Blogmire (http://www.theblogmire.com/lockdown-stockholm-syndrome/)
Sun, 03 May 2020 17:11 UTC


http://www.theblogmire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Stockholm-1080x608.jpg

Stockholm Syndrome:
A condition in which hostages develop a psychological alliance with their captors during captivity.

Lockdown Stockholm Syndrome:
A psychological state of mind that causes its sufferers to come to love seeing their economies and liberties being destroyed, whilst simultaneously being incapable of accepting that Sweden kept its society going without resorting to such measures. I continue to be baffled by those who cannot bring themselves to admit that Sweden has carried out a relatively sensible policy on Covid-19, whilst the response of so many other countries has been authoritarian and frankly unhinged. The idea of quarantining millions of perfectly healthy people and stopping them from doing normal, healthy things is something that has apparently never occurred to any national leaders in the past, or at least if it did, they presumably never enacted it for fear of revolt.

No such fear today. It is simply staggering to see how so many people have not only come to accept the inevitable destruction of the economy and curtailment of civil liberties as a price worth paying to deal with an illness which is killing numbers on roughly the same levels as a bad flu season, but have actually become cheerleaders for the giant social experiment being done to them. It reminds me of the chilling and dispiriting line at the end of 1984: "He loved Big Brother." Today, for reasons that are not at all clear to me, many appear to "Love Lockdown" — that is, they appear to be absolutely fine with having their liberties taken away from them; absolutely fine with having the right to do lawful work taken from them; and absolutely fine with having the right to do normal, healthy things taken away from them. If anyone has an explanation, do be sure to let me know.

But it gets worse. Not only do they seem to be perfectly willing to go along with these things, but they are appear to be utterly oblivious and even apathetic to the economic train wreck headed their way because of the policy they support. Why? What will shake them out of that apathy and complacency? Will it be when they hear about the Great Depression-era unemployment levels coming on us? No! Even that doesn't do it. The chart below is one of the most genuinely frightening I've ever seen, showing as it does US unemployment rising by over 30,000,000 in just seven weeks to levels not seen since the 1930s. And yet when I show it, many just airily dismiss it with a shrug of the shoulders as if it's irrelevant. Perhaps it will only be if they lose their own jobs and can't pay the rent or can't get stuff in the shops like they used to that it'll hit home! Who knows?
http://www.theblogmire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Unemployed-in-the-US-1948-2020-768x437.png If you try to show such people that it didn't have to be this way, comparing the UK with Sweden, or Sweden with other countries, or Sweden with what the Imperial College model might have predicted, they either dismiss it, or get angry, or ignore it. It's a thought they don't want to entertain, presumably because they have thoroughly convinced themselves that "lockdown" is the only policy that can possibly work, and any data that shows that this is not the case must either be wrong or ignored (for those who want to see a real expert thoroughly debunk the idea that lockdown was or is necessary, I recommend this interview with Professor Knut Wittkowski (https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/05/01/coronavirus-epidemiologist-dr-knut-wittkowski-lockdown-has-no-benefit-only-negative-effects/)).

Despite studying the data for a number of weeks, I have yet to find any discernible evidence that the Swedish policy has hurt that country in anything like the way the doom-mongers predicted. Just as importantly, I have been unable to find any discernible evidence that destroying your economy and wrecking civil liberties — which is what the policy of "lockdown" is — was necessary.

For instance, the chart below shows two countries with a very different policy — Sweden and the UK — by daily deaths per million population (note, the UK figures are somewhat skewed on 29th April, as the Government decided to count deaths in care homes on that day ((extraordinary that these were missed off before)). What is actually clear is that Sweden has in fact fared better than the UK, with total recorded deaths at 256.6 per million, compared to 419.1 per million for the UK, as at 3rd May:
http://www.theblogmire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/3rd-May-UK-Sweden-768x506.png Or we could look at weekly recorded deaths for 13 European countries, plus the US. Interestingly, in all cases (except the UK because of that care home spike on 29th April), the numbers of deaths are now clearly falling and — it would seem — beginning to peter out — including Sweden:
http://www.theblogmire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/3rd-May-Weekly-Deaths-768x437.png

Or here's a cumulative way of looking at the same data:
http://www.theblogmire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/3rd-May-Weekly-Deaths-Columns-768x437.png What I have noticed, however, is the more Sweden's figures have failed to shoot up into the stratosphere, the more some people have ground their teeth, digging in and claiming that because Sweden's death numbers are worse than Denmark's, Finland's and Norway's, this somehow proves the point that they messed up big time. Does it? Here's another way of looking at it.

As of today, the country has seen just short of 2,700 deaths. This is:


Approximately 265.62 deaths per million population
Approximately 0.0265% of their entire population.

This is not even close to what the doom-mongers were predicting. My own very conservative estimate (http://www.theblogmire.com/is-lockdown-essential-comparing-the-swedish-experience-with-the-imperial-college-model-suggests-otherwise/) of what Imperial College's model might have predicted for them, under the measures they have taken, came out at approximately 32,500 deaths (approximately 3,250 deaths per million). However, a study carried out by Sweden's (https://www.aier.org/article/imperial-college-model-applied-to-sweden-yields-preposterous-results/)Uppsala University (https://www.aier.org/article/imperial-college-model-applied-to-sweden-yields-preposterous-results/) in April applied the Imperial College model to Sweden and came out with far bigger numbers than my conservative estimate. According to their projections, if Sweden continued its current response:


It would pass 40,000 deaths shortly after 1st May
This would continue to rise to almost 100,000 deaths by June.

But let me again remind you: so far, Sweden has had just under 2,700 deaths, and we've now passed 1st May. That's many orders of magnitude below what the Imperial College model would have predicted for it.

I think we can safely say (if we didn't know it already) that the Imperial College model overestimated deaths from Covid-19 by a huge margin. Bit like their estimates for Mad Cow Disease. And Swine Flu. And H5N1 Bird Flu (https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/29/lokin-20-the-lockdown-regime-causes-increasing-health-concerns/). In fact, perhaps the question we should ask is if anyone knows of an instance when Neil Ferguson's team have got their predictions right — or at least within say a few tens of thousands at least?

And yet here's the thing: not only is the UK Government's draconian policy based on these faulty predictions, but many have taken to these draconian measures based on faulty so-called science like ducks to water. I find it extraordinary. I'd love to know why. Any one?

Related:


The Undeniable Correlation Between Lockdown And The Unprecedented Destruction of Economies, Jobs And Lives (https://www.sott.net/article/433415-The-Undeniable-Correlation-Between-Lockdown-And-The-Unprecedented-Destruction-of-Economies-Jobs-And-Lives)



Is lockdown essential? Comparing the Swedish experience with the Imperial College model suggests otherwise (https://www.sott.net/article/433025-Is-lockdown-essential-Comparing-the-Swedish-experience-with-the-Imperial-College-model-suggests-otherwise)



Led by "the Science" towards a medical tyranny? (https://www.sott.net/article/432826-Led-by-the-Science-towards-a-medical-tyranny)



A Comparison of Lockdown UK With Non-Lockdown Sweden (https://www.sott.net/article/432421-A-Comparison-of-Lockdown-UK-With-Non-Lockdown-Sweden)

shaberon
8th May 2020, 17:07
Sweden's 2,700 deaths looked like a surge at first compared to here, but I don't think it is; yes, if it went anywhere near the "predicted 40,000" it would look differently.

Nothing has changed here, it is very linear, it has neither skyrocketed or slacked off. Although we haven't quite reached Sweden's numbers, I don't think it shows anything spectacular. We got a local surge of at least a hundred cases "at large", or outside of the nursing homes, but it's not really doing anything. Comparatively, in south Georgia, which is mostly black people but way more rural than here, they are getting clobbered, or, at least, there are fatalities. So the simple fact of rural areas certainly does not prevent spread.

The whole thing will wash out since "wave two" comes at any point in time, but, we can pretty much promise that each step taken to "re-open" the U. S. is not going to be reversed, it will not shut down again no matter what. Other countries may be different.

Luke Holiday
26th May 2020, 16:07
https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

Japan is also a country without 5 g, although it appears 5 G will fully operation very soon - so now we will see....

https://venturebeat.com/2020/03/23/japans-top-carriers-announce-5g-launches-as-2020-olympics-face-delay/


Blessings Luke

Luke Holiday
26th May 2020, 18:13
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Source JP Morgan: https://www.anti-empire.com/lockdowns-made-no-difference-to-virus-course-infection-rates-went-down-when-they-were-ended-jp-morgan-study/



Coronavirus lockdowns have failed to alter the course of the pandemic but have instead ‘destroyed millions of livelihoods’, a JP Morgan study has claimed.

Falling infection rates since lockdowns were lifted suggest that the virus ‘likely has its own dynamics’ which are ‘unrelated to often inconsistent lockdown measures’, a report published by the financial services giant said.

Denmark is among the countries which has seen its R rate continue to fall after schools and shopping malls re-opened, while Germany’s rate has mostly remained below 1.0 after the lockdown was eased.

The report also shows many US states including Alabama, Wisconsin and Colorado enjoying lower R rates after lockdown measures were lifted.

Author Marko Kolanovic, a trained physicist and a strategist for JP Morgan, said governments had been spooked by ‘flawed scientific papers‘ into imposing lockdowns which were ‘inefficient or late’ and had little effect.

‘Unlike rigorous testing of new drugs, lockdowns were administered with little consideration that they might not only cause economic devastation but potentially more deaths than Covid-19 itself,’ he claimed.

The JP Morgan report includes graphs showing that ‘the vast majority of countries had decreased infection rates’ after lockdowns were lifted.

Infection rates have continued to decline even once a lag period for new infections to become visible is factored in, the report says.


A second graph shows a similar effect in the US, showing that many states saw a lower rate of transmission (R) after full-scale lockdowns were ended.

They included Colorado, Iowa, Alabama, Wyoming, Wisconsin and Mississippi, according to the chart, although not all states are included.

Nevada and North Dakota are among the exceptions which appear to have had a higher rate of transmission since normal life began to resume.

The R rate shows how many people each virus patient typically infects, and some countries regard a rate below 1.0 as a key indicator that the epidemic is in retreat.
‘While we often hear that lockdowns are driven by scientific models, and that there is an exact relationship between the level of economic activity and the spread of [the] virus – this is not supported by the data,’ the report says.

‘Indeed, virtually everywhere infection rates have declined after re-opening even after allowing for an appropriate measurement lag.

‘This means that the pandemic and Covid-19 likely have [their] own dynamics unrelated to often inconsistent lockdown measures that were being implemented.’
Those dynamics may be influenced by increased hand-washing and even weather patterns but seemingly not by full-scale lockdowns, the report suggests.

‘The fact that re-opening did not change the course of the pandemic is consistent with studies showing that initiation of full lockdowns did not alter the course of the pandemic either,’ it says.

An Oxford University professor has previously suggested that the crisis in Britain began falling from its peak before Boris Johnson ordered a lockdown on March 23.
Professor Carl Heneghan said last month that the peak of new cases had come on April 8, suggesting a peak of infection three weeks earlier around March 18.

The JP Morgan analysis linked the decision to impose lockdowns to ‘flawed scientific papers’ predicting millions of deaths in the West.

‘This on its own was odd, given that in China there were only several thousand deaths, and the mortality rate outside of Wuhan was very low,’ it says.

‘In the absence of conclusive data, these lockdowns were justified initially. Nonetheless, many of these efforts were inefficient or late.’

In some European countries, studies suggest that the measures ‘did not produce any change in pandemic parameters’ such as the R rate, the JP Morgan report says.
Kolanovic says that lockdowns had remained in place even as ‘our knowledge of the virus and lack of effectiveness of total lockdowns evolved’.

‘At the same time, millions of livelihoods were being destroyed by these lockdowns,’ he writes.

Countries in lockdown are having to blow huge holes in their budgets to counter the economic standstill which is forcing millions of people into unemployment.

The report also cites ‘worrying populism’ as an obstacle to re-opening the economy, for example in the US where senators passed an anti-China measure this week.

It warns that economic activity in the US is ‘now largely following partisan lines’ as Republican and Democratic governors adopt different strategies for their states.

As well as casting doubt on the wisdom of imposing lockdowns in the first place, the report suggests that economies could now be re-opened more quickly.

Denmark is among the countries which has started re-opening its economy without seeing a new surge in virus cases.

Zoos, museums and cinemas have re-opened early in Denmark with many children now back at school after scientists said the R rate had continued to fall.

Germany has also been confident enough to scale back the lockdown after the R rate mostly stayed below 1.0 following an initial lifting of restrictions.

However, chancellor Angela Merkel has repeatedly urged caution and warned that a second wave of virus cases could leave hospitals overwhelmed.

The UK government has similarly warned that some restrictions could be re-imposed if there is a ‘sudden and concerning’ rise in new cases.

The World Health Organisation has urged ‘extreme vigilance’ about lifing lockdowns, saying there is ‘always the risk that the virus takes off again’.

WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said that some countries such as Germany and South Korea had systems in place to respond to a new surge.
However, Britain’s efforts to set up a tracking and tracing system have been hampered by delays in rolling out the necessary app.

Tedros said that a ‘comprehensive package of measures’ is needed until a vaccine becomes available, which is likely to be many months away at least.

It is not yet fully clear how many people have been infected or to what extent they are now immune, but most people remain susceptible.
Some vaccine projects have already begun testing humans, including at Oxford University.

Up to 1,102 participants have been recruited across multiple study sites in Oxford, Southampton, London and Bristol, although results are not expected for weeks.
Imperial College London is also progressing with its vaccine candidate and will look to move into clinical trials by mid-June, with larger scale trials in October.
However, experts and politicians warn there is no guarantee that an effective vaccine will ever be developed.

Even if it is, there are concerns about how it will be distributed in large enough quantities to bring the pandemic to a standstill.


This debate should now be over: conclusions are clear: Lockdowns were useless, facemasks are a shame, acquiescing to a vaccine from Bill Gates is insane, the CV 19 tests are useless, and CV 19 contagiousness/lethality has been proven equal to that of seasonal flu...etc.. (I could go on...) There is only one conclusion - this is a scam/plandemic designed to fulfill eliteist's agenda's....

...Now the question remains...what are we going to do about it

Blessings

Luke

DeDukshyn
26th May 2020, 19:26
Source link for the above article cited?

Edit: Thanks for adding that ... I shared the original article to FB.

Gwin Ru
31st May 2020, 16:21
“It’s all Bullsh*t” – 3 Leaks that Sink the Covid Narrative (https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/31/its-all-bullsht-3-leaks-that-sink-the-covid-narrative/)

In recent days a series of leaks across the globe have further shown the “official line” on coronavirus does not hold water

Kit Knightly


https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/leaky-bucket-2000x900.jpg?x10376 (https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/leaky-bucket.jpg?x10376)

The science of the coronavirus is not disputed. It is well documented and openly admitted (https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/15/watch-uk-chief-medic-confirms-again-covid19-harmless-to-vast-majority/):



Most people won’t get the virus.



Most of the people who get it won’t display symptoms.



Most of the people who display symptoms will only be mildly sick.



Most of the people with severe symptoms will never be critically ill.



And most of the people who get critically ill will survive.

This is borne out by the numerous serological studies (https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/) which show, again and again, that the infection fatality ratio is on par with flu.

There is no science – and increasingly little rational discussion – to justify the lockdown measures and overall sense of global panic.

Nevertheless, it’s always good to get official acknowledgement of the truth, even if it has to be leaked.

Here are three leaks showing that those in power know that the coronavirus poses no threat, and in no way justifies the lockdown that is going to destroy the livelihoods of so many.

1. “It’s all bull****!”
On May 26th Dr Alexander Myasnikov, Russia’s head of coronavirus information, gave an interview to former-Presidential candidate Ksenia Sobchak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CpI22QJ07Q&feature=youtu.be&t=3360) in which he apparently let slip his true feelings (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/05/27/its-all-bullsht-russias-coronavirus-information-chief-says-of-virus-fears-a70398).

Believing the interview over, and the camera turned off, Myasnikov said:
It’s all bull**** […] It’s all exaggerated. It’s an acute respiratory disease with minimal mortality […] Why has the whole world been destroyed? That I don’t know,”
2. “covid-19 cannot be described as a generally dangerous disease”
According to an e-mail leaked to Danish newspaper Politiken, the Danish Health Authority disagree with their government’s approach to the coronavirus. They cover it in two articles here (https://politiken.dk/indland/art7805054/Mail-vækker-opsigt-og-bestyrtelse-på-Christiansborg) and here (https://politiken.dk/forbrugogliv/sundhedogmotion/art7803218/Mette-Frederiksen-var-uenig-med-Søren-Brostrøm-og-tog-magten-fra-ham) (For those who don’t speak Danish, thelocal.dk have covered the story too (https://www.thelocal.dk/20200529/leaked-emails-show-how-denmarks-pm-steam-rollered-her-own-health-agency/amp)).

There’s a lot of interesting information there, not least of which is the clear implication that politicians appear to be pressing the scientific advisors to overstate the danger (they did the same thing in the UK (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-28/top-aide-to-u-k-s-johnson-pushed-scientists-to-back-lockdown)), along with the decision of some civil servants to withhold data from the public until after the lockdown had been extended.

But by far the most important quote is from a March 15th e-mail [our emphasis]:
The Danish Health Authority continues to consider that covid-19 cannot be described as a generally dangerous disease, as it does not have either a usually serious course or a high mortality rate,”
On March 12th the Danish parliament passed an emergency law which – among many other things – decreased the power of the Danish Health Authority, demoting it from a “regulatory authority” to just an “advisory” one.
3. “A Global False Alarm”
Earlier this month, on May 9th, a report was leaked to the German alternate media magazine Tichys Einblick (https://www.tichyseinblick.de/daili-es-sentials/exklusiv-auf-te-ein-vorwurf-koennte-lauten-der-staat-hat-sich-in-der-coronakrise-als-einer-der-groessten-fake-news-produzenten-erwiesen/) titled “Analysis of the Crisis Management”.

The report was commissioned by the German department of the interior, but then its findings were ignored, prompting one of the authors to release it through non-official channels.

The fall out of that, including attacks on the authors and minimising of the report’s findings, is all very fascinating and we highly recommend this detailed report on Strategic Culture (https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/29/german-official-leaks-report-denouncing-corona-as-global-false-alarm/) (or read the full report here (https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/Dokument93.pdf?x10376) in German).

We’re going to focus on just the reports conclusions, including [our emphasis]:


The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.



The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.



During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.


After being attacked in the press, and suspended from his job, the leaker and other authors of the report released a joint statement (https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/102396-umstrittene-bmi-analyse-wissenschaftler-kritisieren/), calling on the government to respond to their findings.

*
If the current crisis was being approached rationally by all parties, these leaks would seal the debate.

Evidence is piling up that the people in charge knew, from the very beginning, that the virus was not dangerous.

The question remaining is: Why are these leaks happening now?

Luke Holiday
31st May 2020, 17:08
“It’s all Bullsh*t” – 3 Leaks that Sink the Covid Narrative (https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/31/its-all-bullsht-3-leaks-that-sink-the-covid-narrative/)

In recent days a series of leaks across the globe have further shown the “official line” on coronavirus does not hold water

Kit Knightly


https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/leaky-bucket-2000x900.jpg?x10376 (https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/leaky-bucket.jpg?x10376)

The science of the coronavirus is not disputed. It is well documented and openly admitted (https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/15/watch-uk-chief-medic-confirms-again-covid19-harmless-to-vast-majority/):



Most people won’t get the virus.



Most of the people who get it won’t display symptoms.



Most of the people who display symptoms will only be mildly sick.



Most of the people with severe symptoms will never be critically ill.



And most of the people who get critically ill will survive.

This is borne out by the numerous serological studies (https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/) which show, again and again, that the infection fatality ratio is on par with flu.

There is no science – and increasingly little rational discussion – to justify the lockdown measures and overall sense of global panic.

Nevertheless, it’s always good to get official acknowledgement of the truth, even if it has to be leaked.

Here are three leaks showing that those in power know that the coronavirus poses no threat, and in no way justifies the lockdown that is going to destroy the livelihoods of so many.

1. “It’s all bull****!”
On May 26th Dr Alexander Myasnikov, Russia’s head of coronavirus information, gave an interview to former-Presidential candidate Ksenia Sobchak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CpI22QJ07Q&feature=youtu.be&t=3360) in which he apparently let slip his true feelings (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/05/27/its-all-bullsht-russias-coronavirus-information-chief-says-of-virus-fears-a70398).

Believing the interview over, and the camera turned off, Myasnikov said:
It’s all bull**** […] It’s all exaggerated. It’s an acute respiratory disease with minimal mortality […] Why has the whole world been destroyed? That I don’t know,”
2. “covid-19 cannot be described as a generally dangerous disease”
According to an e-mail leaked to Danish newspaper Politiken, the Danish Health Authority disagree with their government’s approach to the coronavirus. They cover it in two articles here (https://politiken.dk/indland/art7805054/Mail-vækker-opsigt-og-bestyrtelse-på-Christiansborg) and here (https://politiken.dk/forbrugogliv/sundhedogmotion/art7803218/Mette-Frederiksen-var-uenig-med-Søren-Brostrøm-og-tog-magten-fra-ham) (For those who don’t speak Danish, thelocal.dk have covered the story too (https://www.thelocal.dk/20200529/leaked-emails-show-how-denmarks-pm-steam-rollered-her-own-health-agency/amp)).

There’s a lot of interesting information there, not least of which is the clear implication that politicians appear to be pressing the scientific advisors to overstate the danger (they did the same thing in the UK (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-28/top-aide-to-u-k-s-johnson-pushed-scientists-to-back-lockdown)), along with the decision of some civil servants to withhold data from the public until after the lockdown had been extended.

But by far the most important quote is from a March 15th e-mail [our emphasis]:
The Danish Health Authority continues to consider that covid-19 cannot be described as a generally dangerous disease, as it does not have either a usually serious course or a high mortality rate,”
On March 12th the Danish parliament passed an emergency law which – among many other things – decreased the power of the Danish Health Authority, demoting it from a “regulatory authority” to just an “advisory” one.
3. “A Global False Alarm”
Earlier this month, on May 9th, a report was leaked to the German alternate media magazine Tichys Einblick (https://www.tichyseinblick.de/daili-es-sentials/exklusiv-auf-te-ein-vorwurf-koennte-lauten-der-staat-hat-sich-in-der-coronakrise-als-einer-der-groessten-fake-news-produzenten-erwiesen/) titled “Analysis of the Crisis Management”.

The report was commissioned by the German department of the interior, but then its findings were ignored, prompting one of the authors to release it through non-official channels.

The fall out of that, including attacks on the authors and minimising of the report’s findings, is all very fascinating and we highly recommend this detailed report on Strategic Culture (https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/29/german-official-leaks-report-denouncing-corona-as-global-false-alarm/) (or read the full report here (https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/Dokument93.pdf?x10376) in German).

We’re going to focus on just the reports conclusions, including [our emphasis]:


The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.



The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.



During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.


After being attacked in the press, and suspended from his job, the leaker and other authors of the report released a joint statement (https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/102396-umstrittene-bmi-analyse-wissenschaftler-kritisieren/), calling on the government to respond to their findings.

*
If the current crisis was being approached rationally by all parties, these leaks would seal the debate.

Evidence is piling up that the people in charge knew, from the very beginning, that the virus was not dangerous.

The question remaining is: Why are these leaks happening now?


Thank you for this Great article articulating/validating what I and am many other's intuitively and observationally have come to realize about the CV crisis:

To Further clarify my belief:

Global financial elites, knowing the current global financial system that they created was unsustainable, have Engineered this crisis as a harbinger to a new/planned financial system : highlighted by Orwellian societal AI controls.

In order to implement the new system the old one has to be destroyed and in order to accomplish this the old system must collapse with the global population battered, weakened, and divided in order for the new system to be successfully implemented.


Blessings Luke

greybeard
31st May 2020, 17:21
Good on youLuke.
In the supermarket today an employee asked me what I thought of the situation I said "Its all hype"
That started a torrent of information -- surprised me the depth of his knowledge.
He spoke of a financial reset. Said it had been attempted before --last recession.
Now I dont understand how that could be done or what it entails.
Perhaps some one could enlighten me --any volunteers --Luke -smiling.
It might be an idea for another thread.
Chris

greybeard
2nd June 2020, 09:57
Tony Robbins interviews Dr. Michael Levitt, Nobel Laureate and Stanford Professor, about his extensive analysis of COVID-19 mortality rates – which have shown strict lockdowns to be an overreaction that have caused more harm than good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbcs37aaI0


This interview is part of the “Facts From the Frontlines” episode of #TheTonyRobbinsPodcast, where Tony uncovers the truth about coronavirus with a 7-person panel of highly qualified researchers, an experienced epidemiologist, a Nobel Laureate, and M.D.s testing and treating patients on the frontlines. Together, they reveal the evidence-based research that has come to light in the last two months.

This is one of the most important interviews Tony has ever conducted. It reminds us to stand guard at the door of our mind, practice discernment when determining trustworthy sources, and think critically in order to stay flexible and maintain the ability to pivot in light of new information – especially when lives depend on it.

To hear the full interview, go here: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/podcasts/...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbcs37aaI0

Eric J (Viking)
2nd June 2020, 11:06
Excellent thread with very useful Stats...

Thank you Luke and others contributions...

Viking

Eric J (Viking)
2nd June 2020, 11:22
Some of the report key passages are:

- The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.

- The people who die from Corona are essentially those who would statistically die this year, because they have reached the end of their lives and their weakened bodies can no longer cope with any random everyday stress (including the approximately 150 viruses currently in circulation).

- Worldwide, within a quarter of a year, there has been no more than 250,000 deaths from Covid-19, compared to 1.5 million deaths [25,100 in Germany] during the influenza wave 2017/18.

- The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.

- A reproach could go along these lines: During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/june/01/german-official-leaks-report-denouncing-corona-as-a-global-false-alarm/

Viking

AutumnW
2nd June 2020, 17:40
This is kind of a useless thread, at the current time, in that, no one knows what the mortality rate would be without lockdowns. Nobody -- including "expert," Tony Robbins. We might have a better take on that when the second wave hits. If we are lucky, the second wave will have evolved to a milder strain and mortality rates will be very low. Great! That is the typical progression of endemic viral illness. It wants to infect the host but not kill it. That would limit its spread.

In that case, lockdowns may have bought us time we needed for the virus to evolve. Who knows?

Luke Holiday
3rd June 2020, 16:25
This is kind of a useless thread, at the current time, in that, no one knows what the mortality rate would be without lockdowns. Nobody -- including "expert," Tony Robbins. We might have a better take on that when the second wave hits. If we are lucky, the second wave will have evolved to a milder strain and mortality rates will be very low. Great! That is the typical progression of endemic viral illness. It wants to infect the host but not kill it. That would limit its spread.

In that case, lockdowns may have bought us time we needed for the virus to evolve. Who knows?



hmmm. Mr. Hide.

Please note my sincere gratitude for your input :)

It is an honor to have you drop by and draw your sword of contrianism, however: the truth shall always remain impregnable :) :)

The painstaking research was done, compiled and displayed in order to undeniably prove the agenda driven uselessness of the CV lockdowns. I also wanted this thread to serve as a database that might ensure such gross abuse of power is not repeated - should a "real" second wave occur.


Blessings


luke

greybeard
4th June 2020, 10:39
Karl Friston: up to 80% not even susceptible to Covid-19


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUOFeVIrOPg

Gwin Ru
8th June 2020, 11:41
Still not a fan of lockdowns: Sweden’s state epidemiologist says media manufactured his alleged U-turn on Covid-19 measures (https://www.rt.com/news/491155-tegnell-lockdown-sweden-coronavirus-defends/)

RT
8 Jun, 2020 07:40
Get short URL (https://on.rt.com/aiz7)


https://cdni.rt.com/files/2020.06/xxs/5edddd3520302769886e6d39.JPG
State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell of the Public Health Agency of Sweden © Reuters / TT News Agency/Andres Wiklund


Anders Tegnell has pushed back against media reports suggesting that he regrets not putting Sweden under lockdown, noting that his comments about his country’s Covid-19 response have been badly mischaracterized.

Sweden’s state epidemiologists said in a recent interview that the best response to coronavirus would be “something between what Sweden has done and what the rest of the world has done.”

Sweden is among a handful of countries which chose against imposing strict and often draconian measures to stop the spread of Covid-19. Numerous media outlets presented his comments as a capitulation to lockdown policies – a claim he firmly denies.

“That interview was unfortunately very wrongly put together and very wrongly advertised,” he clarified after his much-publicized talk on Swedish Radio. Tegnell pointed out that, with hindsight, it will be clear that there are things which Sweden did right, and there will also be measures that other nations adopted that will be proven to have been effective.

The state epidemiologist insists that there is still no “obvious” benefits to closing businesses, restaurants and other venues in an effort to fend off the virus.
“There are no activities that we can point to as extremely vulnerable,” he told (https://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/anders-tegnell-there-are-things-we-could-have-done-better/) Sweden’s Dagens Nyheter, adding that the country's
“fundamental strategy has worked well.”
Tegnell has acknowledged that Sweden should have done more to properly protect care homes from the virus – a failure that has accounted for a large percentage of the country’s Covid-19 deaths. The blunder is not unique to Sweden, however. It’s believed that 40 percent of coronavirus-related deaths in the United States have occurred in nursing homes. In England, care home residents are projected to make up 57 percent of all deaths by the end of June.

Sweden’s decision to keep most businesses and institutions open has been repeatedly slammed as careless and dangerous. The Scandinavian country indeed recorded the highest reported per capita death rate in the world due to the virus in the week ending May 29. However, Sweden’s deaths per million is still lower or not significantly different from many European countries that chose to impose strict measures.

A top UK adviser who advocated for the country’s lockdown policies has conceded that Sweden has not suffered more from the health crisis than countries which shut down their economies.

In neighboring Norway, Camilla Stoltenberg, director of the country’s public health agency, has publicly stated that her country could have “probably achieved the same effect – and avoid part of the unfortunate repercussions – by not closing.”

Related:


'Professor Lockdown' Ferguson, UK's Covid-19 czar, admits crippling restrictions MADE NO DIFFERENCE – where’s the outrage? (https://www.rt.com/op-ed/490659-ferguson-undermined-uk-lockdown/)



Is public opinion on Covid-19 being shaped by facts – or ‘terrorized’ by propaganda? (https://www.rt.com/op-ed/490110-covid19-propaganda-uk-public-opinion/)

spade
8th June 2020, 13:44
Tegnell has acknowledged that Sweden should have done more to properly protect care homes from the virus – a failure that has accounted for a large percentage of the country’s Covid-19 deaths. The blunder is not unique to Sweden, however. It’s believed that 40 percent of coronavirus-related deaths in the United States have occurred in nursing homes. In England, care home residents are projected to make up 57 percent of all deaths by the end of June.


That is it right there. The elite's goals - just know this :


1) The elite are taking HCQ + Zinc, but ain't letting you have it.
2) The developing countries can't be stuffed with the elites, and are taking HCQ + Zinc and doing very well on it.
3) The health authorities / medicial industrial complex are are at war with certain governors or presidents who refuse to comply in certain countries as they are all being told step-by-step instructions from Operation Lockstep by Rockefeller, through the B&M G foundation and their myriad subsidiaries, with their tentacles embedded in every possible health authority. Even issuing orders to send COVID into nursing and care homes.
4) Some health authorities have bungled the order to report false data, such as false number of deaths (always way higher than normal), and reported the true number instead like NZ, Singapore, and various other "honest" health, in probably some sort of negotiated agreement that they will enact operation lockstep to the tee, and are placed as a model nation for others to follow.
5) Sweden is an outlier, as in the 1st country to already willing enact mass chipping, thus given the green light to a no lockdown scenario.


Of course, there are many other ways to treat the virus... but they want to protract this out as long as possible for the slave maker vax.

Luke Holiday
9th June 2020, 03:24
Tegnell has acknowledged that Sweden should have done more to properly protect care homes from the virus – a failure that has accounted for a large percentage of the country’s Covid-19 deaths. The blunder is not unique to Sweden, however. It’s believed that 40 percent of coronavirus-related deaths in the United States have occurred in nursing homes. In England, care home residents are projected to make up 57 percent of all deaths by the end of June.


That is it right there. The elite's goals - just know this :


1) The elite are taking HCQ + Zinc, but ain't letting you have it.
2) The developing countries can't be stuffed with the elites, and are taking HCQ + Zinc and doing very well on it.
3) The health authorities / medicial industrial complex are are at war with certain governors or presidents who refuse to comply in certain countries as they are all being told step-by-step instructions from Operation Lockstep by Rockefeller, through the B&M G foundation and their myriad subsidiaries, with their tentacles embedded in every possible health authority. Even issuing orders to send COVID into nursing and care homes.
4) Some health authorities have bungled the order to report false data, such as false number of deaths (always way higher than normal), and reported the true number instead like NZ, Singapore, and various other "honest" health, in probably some sort of negotiated agreement that they will enact operation lockstep to the tee, and are placed as a model nation for others to follow.
5) Sweden is an outlier, as in the 1st country to already willing enact mass chipping, thus given the green light to a no lockdown scenario.


Of course, there are many other ways to treat the virus... but they want to protract this out as long as possible for the slave maker vax.

Hello Spade

Great post - I would like to present the argument to colleagues. Do have a reference for the HCQ being used in developing countries

Blessings Luke

spade
9th June 2020, 03:58
there are 2 twitter feeds that tracks this very topic -

https://twitter.com/niro60487270

https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher

AutumnW
9th June 2020, 04:12
The lockdowns appeared to have saved many many lives, maybe millions. It took guts to initiate it, but was for the greater good. Remains to be seen if it was completely effective though. Time will tell. :thumbsup:

AutumnW
9th June 2020, 04:25
https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

Japan is also a country without 5 g, although it appears 5 G will fully operation very soon - so now we will see....

https://venturebeat.com/2020/03/23/japans-top-carriers-announce-5g-launches-as-2020-olympics-face-delay/


Blessings Luke

Japan has 5G

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/25/business/ntt-docomo-becomes-first-launch-5g-service-japan/#.Xt8Oz_JlDR0

DaveToo
9th June 2020, 05:50
This is kind of a useless thread, at the current time, in that, no one knows what the mortality rate would be without lockdowns. Nobody -- including "expert," Tony Robbins. We might have a better take on that when the second wave hits. If we are lucky, the second wave will have evolved to a milder strain and mortality rates will be very low. Great! That is the typical progression of endemic viral illness. It wants to infect the host but not kill it. That would limit its spread.

In that case, lockdowns may have bought us time we needed for the virus to evolve. Who knows?

On the contrary.
I said it before and I'll say it again, God bless the countries that didn't lock down and the U.S. states as well!
For without them, we would never know what would have happened without the lock downs.

They didn't lock down. And we can see the results.
On the whole they are NO WORSE than the locked down countries!!!
And many fared much better.

So they were able to keep their economies going, keep their citizens sane and healthy!
The lock downs did MUCH MUCH more harm to the world than would have occurred without them.

Please Autumn take a good hard look at the numbers. They are out there for curious people like you to study.
Please don't neglect them, and just come here and spout off what you feel.

Oh and while we are at it. Since the number of deaths from Covid-19 are no worse than those for the seasonal flu,
why haven't governments worldwide locked down their countries each year when the seasonal flu pandemic starts?

AutumnW
9th June 2020, 08:07
I have looked at the numbers and those areas who instituted lockdown early and masked up
have fared better.

greybeard
9th June 2020, 08:18
What planet are they on --statistics --oh yeah!!

Coronavirus lockdown 'prevented 470,000 deaths' amid fresh warnings of second wave
James MorrisSenior news reporter, Yahoo News UK

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-lockdown-prevented-470000-deaths-174750171.html

Boris Johnson’s coronavirus lockdown prevented almost half a million deaths, according to researchers.

Imperial College London scientists predicted that if the government hadn’t imposed the lockdown on 23 March, 500,000 deaths would have happened by 4 May.

It means, according to their forecasts, just over 470,000 deaths were averted. The death toll stood at 28,374 on 4 May.

However, the new figures come after a top government scientific adviser said more lives would have been saved if the UK had gone into lockdown sooner.


Prof John Edmunds said the delay “cost a lot of lives”.

Other European countries, such as France and Spain, went into lockdown earlier in March. The UK currently has the second highest coronavirus death toll in the world.

Meanwhile, with the UK lockdown in the process of being eased, the Imperial College researchers – who studied the lockdowns of 11 European counties – warned the risk of a second wave is “very real” if all measures are abandoned.

No COVID-19 vaccine currently exists, with the government having previously warned one may never be found.


Speaking on a telephone briefing on Monday, study author Dr Seth Flaxman, from Imperial College, said: “We’re just at the beginning of the epidemic.

“We’re very far from herd immunity, with only between 3% and 4% of the population infected.

“The risk of a second wave happening, if all intervention and all precautions are abandoned, is very real.

“We would all love to be able to go back to normal life pre-pandemic, with children back at school, being able to see loved ones whenever we want – but our results suggest that precautions remain necessary.”
Read more: Hancock says it's a 'mistake' to attend protests that could spread coronavirus

Prof Edmunds, who attends meetings of the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE), had told BBC One’s The Andrew Marr Show on Sunday: “We should have gone into lockdown earlier.

“I think it would have been hard to do it, I think the data that we were dealing with in the early part of March and our kind of situational awareness was really quite poor.

“And so I think it would have been very hard to pull the trigger at that point but I wish we had – I wish we had gone into lockdown earlier. I think that has cost a lot of lives unfortunately.”

Health secretary Matt Hancock insisted the government made the “right decisions at the right time” with the lockdown.

AutumnW
9th June 2020, 09:24
This is kind of a useless thread, at the current time, in that, no one knows what the mortality rate would be without lockdowns. Nobody -- including "expert," Tony Robbins. We might have a better take on that when the second wave hits. If we are lucky, the second wave will have evolved to a milder strain and mortality rates will be very low. Great! That is the typical progression of endemic viral illness. It wants to infect the host but not kill it. That would limit its spread.

In that case, lockdowns may have bought us time we needed for the virus to evolve. Who knows?

On the contrary.
I said it before and I'll say it again, God bless the countries that didn't lock down and the U.S. states as well!
For without them, we would never know what would have happened without the lock downs.

They didn't lock down. And we can see the results.
On the whole they are NO WORSE than the locked down countries!!!
And many fared much better.

So they were able to keep their economies going, keep their citizens sane and healthy!
The lock downs did MUCH MUCH more harm to the world than would have occurred without them.

Please Autumn take a good hard look at the numbers. They are out there for curious people like you to study.
Please don't neglect them, and just come here and spout off what you feel.

Oh and while we are at it. Since the number of deaths from Covid-19 are no worse than those for the seasonal flu,
why haven't governments worldwide locked down their countries each year when the seasonal flu pandemic starts?

I don't agree with you and this is not the flu. I am not consulting stats from those who may have a conflict of interest. As far as being exact about what may or may not have happened the best statistics are extrapolating from figures compiled before lockdown. And those are likely on the low side as China may not have been honest.

The data isn't all in. Time alone will tell a more exact story.

As far as spouting stuff based on my feelings? If that was the case I would be in complete agreement as my feelings want to believe you are correct, all evidence to the contrary.

greybeard
9th June 2020, 11:09
I have looked at the numbers and those areas who instituted lockdown early and masked up
have fared better.
Yes but which numbers are you looking at AutumW?

Many Dr's and Scientists are saying the figures are loaded to justify lockdown.
They protest that they are not being listened to as the media ploughs on with every dramatic picture and story they can find.
Its true that care of The Elderly was screwed up, in order to create hospital ward space they put old people into homes who frankly should have been kept in hospital due to the severity of their conditions -- thats why they were in hospital.
My ex wife a nurse tells me wards are empty of people needing cancer and heart surgery to name but two causes of death.

People in prisons had a low mortality rate as the average age was much less..

I had a residential home for the elderly for ten years and quite a few residents would die each year due to seasonal flu.
At least their relatives were allowed to be with them and give them a decent funeral--which I and staff attended -- we grew fond of them.

So look at the sensationalism of the press a fine example I posted above.

Go by your feelings Autumn W or investigate deeper to see what frontline Drs are saying and real experts in immunology, vaccines, and this virus.
Lockdown is not normal -- never before have we done this to fit health people who if they caught this the symptoms were minor, at worst it lasted fourteen days.
The suicide rate is going up at a rate never seen since the great depression -- the so called cure is killing more than the disease.

Best wishes
Chris

greybeard
9th June 2020, 11:14
CENSORED DOC DOUBLES DOWN

Dr. Daniel Erickson, owner of seven CA urgent care facilities, was thrown into the spotlight after his press conference on the COVID 19 stirred up enough controversy to get censored by YouTube. Here’s Del’s follow-up interview and this doc’s message is clear: he is not backing down. #CensoredDocs



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0shLq9x6c

Luke Holiday
9th June 2020, 15:45
This is kind of a useless thread, at the current time, in that, no one knows what the mortality rate would be without lockdowns. Nobody -- including "expert," Tony Robbins. We might have a better take on that when the second wave hits. If we are lucky, the second wave will have evolved to a milder strain and mortality rates will be very low. Great! That is the typical progression of endemic viral illness. It wants to infect the host but not kill it. That would limit its spread.

In that case, lockdowns may have bought us time we needed for the virus to evolve. Who knows?

On the contrary.
I said it before and I'll say it again, God bless the countries that didn't lock down and the U.S. states as well!
For without them, we would never know what would have happened without the lock downs.

They didn't lock down. And we can see the results.
On the whole they are NO WORSE than the locked down countries!!!
And many fared much better.

So they were able to keep their economies going, keep their citizens sane and healthy!
The lock downs did MUCH MUCH more harm to the world than would have occurred without them.

Please Autumn take a good hard look at the numbers. They are out there for curious people like you to study.
Please don't neglect them, and just come here and spout off what you feel.

Oh and while we are at it. Since the number of deaths from Covid-19 are no worse than those for the seasonal flu,
why haven't governments worldwide locked down their countries each year when the seasonal flu pandemic starts?

I don't agree with you and this is not the flu. I am not consulting stats from those who may have a conflict of interest. As far as being exact about what may or may not have happened the best statistics are extrapolating from figures compiled before lockdown. And those are likely on the low side as China may not have been honest.

The data isn't all in. Time alone will tell a more exact story.

As far as spouting stuff based on my feelings? If that was the case I would be in complete agreement as my feelings want to believe you are correct, all evidence to the contrary.


Mr Hyde,

Perhaps the spouting off comment is related to you, incitefully calling this thread useless- thus disrespecting all those who have participated, some very diligently, in it's construction. Please be more careful in your posts.

What statistics are you referring to: strong contrarian claims demand equally strong proof in order to be considered here. (By not showing them - you appear to be just spouting off)

Thank you for reminding us of Japan now having 5 G. Future reports related to death rates, chronic illness, CV, will follow on a monthly basis. Perhaps you would like to volunteer in compiling the statistics?

Blessings Luke

AutumnW
9th June 2020, 21:51
This is kind of a useless thread, at the current time. True. It is, for all of the reasons stated. Plus, all of the statistics can be massaged by scientists with a conflict of interest to get the results to support their point of view.

Scientists, operating in a more objective zone, can also be wrong for different reasons. But, for now, I have to put my money on those who aren't trying to build a youtube following, for financial purposes, like Dr. Buttar, I suspect.

It is premature to delve too deeply into the pros and cons of a lockdown. Give it a few months. See if the virus mutates to a stronger or weaker strain, for starters.

As far as the spouting off remark goes, it doesn't bother me, Mr. Holiday. When a thread is titled Lockdown versus Non-Lockdown, it should automatically follow that you aren't going to get uniformity of opinion. Maybe change the title, if you are looking for those walking in lock step.

As far as watching how I post, I do. I am just not in agreement with you, so you find my posts highly irritating, as do others who can't handle an honest difference of opinion.

Blessings,

Autumn

Luke Holiday
10th June 2020, 01:00
This is kind of a useless thread, at the current time. True. It is, for all of the reasons stated. Plus, all of the statistics can be massaged by scientists with a conflict of interest to get the results to support their point of view.

Scientists, operating in a more objective zone, can also be wrong for different reasons. But, for now, I have to put my money on those who aren't trying to build a youtube following, for financial purposes, like Dr. Buttar, I suspect.

It is premature to delve too deeply into the pros and cons of a lockdown. Give it a few months. See if the virus mutates to a stronger or weaker strain, for starters.

As far as the spouting off remark goes, it doesn't bother me, Mr. Holiday. When a thread is titled Lockdown versus Non-Lockdown, it should automatically follow that you aren't going to get uniformity of opinion. Maybe change the title, if you are looking for those walking in lock step.

As far as watching how I post, I do. I am just not in agreement with you, so you find my posts highly irritating, as do others who can't handle an honest difference of opinion.

Blessings,

Autumn

Mr, Hyde

Differing opinion is most welcome, dismissive, disrespectful rhetoric combined with making strong contrarian opinions without providing evidence, while simultaneously not offering to do any leg work, reflexively lead to your words holding no value here.

I am not irritated, Mr Hide, as I wrote, it is an honor to have you wield your sword of contrarianistic opinion. I do feel bad for you, however; I wince at some of your bombastic posts. If you wish to be worth reading, I would advise that when you Allez! - please do so with diplomacy, tact and in the spirit of kinship - it is here you will build alliances.

Blessings Luke

Now, how about some stats to back up your claim or a little help around here collecting data. :)

AutumnW
10th June 2020, 04:25
Luke,

"I am not irritated, Autumn, as I wrote, it is an honor to have you wield your sword of contrarianistic opinion. I do feel bad for you however; I wince at some of your bombastic posts. If you wish to be worth reading, I would advise that when you Allez! - please do so with diplomacy, tact and in the spirit of kinship - it is here you will build alliances."

One paragraph, Luke and two contradictions. I have them underlined. You say my opinion is an honor -- you then say, "if you wish to be worth reading" The entire paragraph is an exercise in very obvious condescension. This technique is neither diplomatic nor tactful. It is a covertly aggressive attempt to dominate through humiliation while attempting to appear to be on high moral ground. Anyway, I will take direct communication over this any day. And what audience do you think you are addressing by referring to my "bombastic, wince inducing" posts? Those who are new and who haven't read what I have written? Who is writing for an audience while trying to build alliances. Not me. I don't care. I will speak my mind. Got it?

And finishing your post on a friendly note, is again, covertly aggressive.

If you go to 3:53 of this video by Chris Martenson, you will get his take on the current nature of the numbers of deaths, which are receding at the moment and some of the possible reasons. You know what I like about him? He will state what his theories are, not what he knows to be certain. When people speak in certainties while a dynamic situation is unfolding, they do not speak with authority.

Now from here on in, I will stay away from you because you are very adept at triggering people into becoming the kind of monster you depict them to be. And stay right away from me. Got it?

LjyNw8qgkaw

Billy
10th June 2020, 08:40
Mr, Hyde

Differing opinion is most welcome, dismissive, disrespectful rhetoric combined with making strong contrarian opinions without providing evidence, while simultaneously not offering to do any leg work, reflexively lead to your words holding no value here.

I am not irritated, Mr Hide, as I wrote, it is an honor to have you wield your sword of contrarianistic opinion. I do feel bad for you, however; I wince at some of your bombastic posts. If you wish to be worth reading, I would advise that when you Allez! - please do so with diplomacy, tact and in the spirit of kinship - it is here you will build alliances.

Blessings Luke

Now, how about some stats to back up your claim or a little help around here collecting data. :)

Luke, if you continue to insult our respected long standing member Autumn by calling her Mr Hide or Hyde, I am going to recommend to the moderators that your membership here is terminated.
If you value your membership here on Avalon, you will take this warning seriously.

Blessings :facepalm:

Ernie Nemeth
10th June 2020, 13:40
This lock down versus non lock down is a moot point.

Unless the black death or similar comes around, there is no purpose to a lock down and no one has the authority to implement it without resorting to threats of violence. That's why we don't shut down for the seasonal flu either because we cannot afford to shut down our lives for non threats made to seem like a threat. If we do this for a mild case of the flu what is left to do for actual, really serious infectious disease?

This is a terrible response designed by out-of-touch bureaucrats in their ivory towers, each of which receive a remuneration that can afford the exacted price of no job and no income for several months. They will not suffer like the poor or starve like those in the economically repressed regions of the world. And when the majority of the rest of us lose our jobs, guess what, they will still have theirs!

greybeard
10th June 2020, 16:52
This is kind of a useless thread, at the current time. True. It is, for all of the reasons stated. Plus, all of the statistics can be massaged by scientists with a conflict of interest to get the results to support their point of view.

Scientists, operating in a more objective zone, can also be wrong for different reasons. But, for now, I have to put my money on those who aren't trying to build a youtube following, for financial purposes, like Dr. Buttar, I suspect.

It is premature to delve too deeply into the pros and cons of a lockdown. Give it a few months. See if the virus mutates to a stronger or weaker strain, for starters.

As far as the spouting off remark goes, it doesn't bother me, Mr. Holiday. When a thread is titled Lockdown versus Non-Lockdown, it should automatically follow that you aren't going to get uniformity of opinion. Maybe change the title, if you are looking for those walking in lock step.

As far as watching how I post, I do. I am just not in agreement with you, so you find my posts highly irritating, as do others who can't handle an honest difference of opinion.

Blessings,

Autumn

If I started a thread with good intention and it was called a useless thread I might have over reacted.
Its disrespectful -- even if its true -- which it is not -- people got a chance to supply statistics.
I appreciate AutumnW opinions --some of which I agree with and contra opinions are necessary.

Luke has brought a lot of good professional information to Avalon.
However I think he over reacted calling AutumnW Mr Hyde.
Who knows why!!
They should be left to sort out their differences amicably in my opinion without fear or favour.
Chris

Bill Ryan
10th June 2020, 17:09
However I think he over reacted calling AutumnW Mr Hyde.
Who knows why!!
Mod clarification from Bill:

It's because Luke Holiday thinks AutumnW and I are the same person (in social media speak: a "sockpuppet") and, as in Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, AutumnW is acting as my evil split-personality alter ego. So when Luke is replying to AutumnW, he believes he's addressing me and calling me out on my duplicity.

Tintin has told him this isn't the case, explaining that AutumnW is a woman in Canada with 2,652 posts to her name since November 2012, as well as 62 started threads. But Luke isn't a very good researcher, does not present good information, and gets superglued, inseparably, to his own beliefs. Let this play out — but maybe not for very much longer.

:focus:

spade
10th June 2020, 17:21
Well I do think with regards to China, the fairly but unreported deaths across China was perhaps speculated to be the culling of the dissenters with the launch of their social credit system, under the guise of the virus aka bioweapon. They had to find a convenient way to dispose of them, without raising too much alarm and just blame it on the virus, yet to the world report a fairly low number of deaths. Propaganda at their core of their existence.

AutumnW
10th June 2020, 20:47
Oh dear Greybeard,

You are a sweet soul. Your post brought a smile to my face for a couple of different reasons.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



However I think he over reacted calling AutumnW Mr Hyde.
Who knows why!!
Mod clarification from Bill:

It's because Luke Holiday thinks AutumnW and I are the same person (in social media speak: a "sockpuppet") and, as in Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, AutumnW is acting as my evil split-personality alter ego. So when Luke is replying to AutumnW, he believes he's addressing me and calling me out on my duplicity.

Tintin has told him this isn't the case, explaining that AutumnW is a woman in Canada with 2,652 posts to her name since November 2012, as well as 62 started threads. But Luke isn't a very good researcher, does not present good information, and gets superglued, inseparably, to his own beliefs. Let this play out — but maybe not for very much longer.

:focus:

Too funny!

¤=[Post Update]=¤


This lock down versus non lock down is a moot point.

Unless the black death or similar comes around, there is no purpose to a lock down and no one has the authority to implement it without resorting to threats of violence. That's why we don't shut down for the seasonal flu either because we cannot afford to shut down our lives for non threats made to seem like a threat. If we do this for a mild case of the flu what is left to do for actual, really serious infectious disease?

This is a terrible response designed by out-of-touch bureaucrats in their ivory towers, each of which receive a remuneration that can afford the exacted price of no job and no income for several months. They will not suffer like the poor or starve like those in the economically repressed regions of the world. And when the majority of the rest of us lose our jobs, guess what, they will still have theirs!

Ernie, what was the purpose of the lockdown?

Ernie Nemeth
10th June 2020, 23:31
I think, if not part of the over-arching agenda of our behind the scenes controllers, the puppeteers, it was an over-reaction on the part of, mostly, the Bill Gates agenda, which is synonymous with the WHO's agenda. By using scare-mongering tactics, and grant money as coercion the world's health leaders were convinced to use the WHO's model. And there these crazy bureaucrats and pencil pushers put together a lockdown plan to have ready for the next epidemic. They were itching to trial run their plan and pounced at the first opportunity, using fear to motivate the populace and their leaders.

Also, there is damage control underway so, for instance, asymptomatic people, the healthy, are being targeted as potential carriers without any evidence. This is so everyone remains fearful of everyone else. You cannot unite if you cannot congregate. I suspect that some areas were targeted with reinfection of the weaponized virus that was initially released in China. And, of course, the stats are being manipulated to make this all seem far worse than it is. But when anyone considers lifting the lockdown, more people are purposely infected or reinfected (that last is only my opinion supported by flimsy circumstantial evidence).


Either that or this is a war and we have been attacked by an unnamed enemy with more biological weapons to come.

Probably both.

Luke Holiday
20th June 2020, 17:03
Here is an excellent short 6 min video running on David icke's site which magnifies the lunacy of a second wave lockdown....


Blessings Luke



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUnZx1_umvg

onawah
24th June 2020, 23:43
COVID: Behind the global nursing home disaster, and the case-number scam
Who cares about all the old people dying?
by Jon Rappoport
June 24, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/06/24/covid-behind-the-global-nursing-home-disaster-and-the-case-number-scam/

"Scandal. Tragedy. Ongoing crime.

In nursing homes, elderly people are already on the edge of the cliff, suffering from long-term illnesses and years of toxic medical treatments…but now you terrify them with COVID propaganda…then you actually label them “COVID”, WITH NO JUSTIFICATION…then you isolate them completely…they’re all alone…no contact with family and friends…what do you expect will happen to these fragile, heavily drugged people?

As of May 22, Forbes reports that, “…in the 43 states that currently report such figures, an astounding 42% of all COVID-19 deaths have taken place in nursing homes and assisted living facilities.”

Washington Post, May 18: “The World Health Organization said half of Europe’s covid-19 deaths occurred in such facilities.”

Headline of same Post article: “Canada’s nursing home crisis: 81 percent of coronavirus deaths [in the country] are in long-term care facilities.”

The Guardian, May 16: “About 90% of the 3,700 people who have died from coronavirus in Sweden were over 70, and half were living in care homes, according to a study from Sweden’s National Board of Health and Welfare at the end of April.”

“Spain—The country was shocked at the end of March when the defence minister revealed that soldiers drafted in to disinfect residential homes had found some elderly people abandoned and dead in their beds.”

“…the regional governments of Madrid and Catalonia have been publishing their own figures on people who have died in care homes from the virus, or while exhibiting symptoms consistent with it.” [AKA, absurd eyeball diagnosis]

“In Madrid, the total for Covid, or suspected Covid, deaths since 8 March stood at 5,886 on Thursday. In Catalonia, it was 3,375. Between them, care home deaths in the two regions account for more than a third of all the coronavirus deaths in the country.”

And there was a great deal of early warning on the subject, if anyone from public health agencies wanted to pay attention—The Guardian, 13 April: “About half of all Covid-19 deaths appear to be happening in care homes in some European countries…Snapshot data from varying official sources shows that in Italy, Spain, France, Ireland and Belgium between 42% and 57% of deaths from the virus have been happening in homes, according to the report by academics based at the London School of Economics (LSE).”

There are two con jobs going on here, as huge numbers of these elderly patients have died and are dying.

The first is the COVID-19 diagnosis, which is either made on the absurd basis of simply eyeballing the patient and seeing general signs of illness, such as shortness of breath and flu-like symptoms; or by test, which I’ve explained is completely unreliable, because it registers positive on all sorts of germs in the body that are irrelevant.

But once the COVID diagnosis is made, then medical authorities claim the deaths of so many patients in nursing homes are occurring because the COVID virus naturally has more impact on the elderly and infirm.

Nonsense. There is no need to invoke the coronavirus to explain why these people in nursing homes are dying.

People all around the world, old people, who have traditional illnesses like flu and pneumonia, are being repackaged as COVID cases. Especially people in nursing homes, who are terrified by COVID propaganda and are intentionally isolated from friends and family…

And in fact are dying of their long-term multiple medical conditions, plus years of treatment with toxic drugs…

Plus the terror of COVID, plus complete isolation, plus filthy conditions in some facilities, plus inattention and outright brutality on the part of nursing home staffs, plus breathing ventilators and sedation in some cases —

Not a virus.

No need to invoke a virus as an explanation.

No need at all.

Obviously, if you subtracted all these deaths from official COVID statistics, you would have a completely different picture of the so-called pandemic.

YOU WOULD HAVE A WORLDWIDE NURSING HOME DISASTER.

And the first order of business would be to go into these places and clean them up and straighten them out and in many cases make arrests of the personnel.

As a number of nursing home patient-advocacy groups have pointed out, the main monitor on what goes on in these homes, and the main source of protection for patients is: visiting families and friends, who keep a careful eye on things.

But because the fake COVID diagnosis immediately leads to locking down the facilities, friends and families can’t come in. They’re shut out.

For the planners of this false pandemic, it all works out. COVID death numbers rise, case numbers rise. Phony numbers to the core.

But real and tragic deaths.

People pushed into death by the concocted IDEA of a virus, by a STORY about a virus."

SOURCES:

* https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/05/26/nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities-0-6-of-the-u-s-population-43-of-u-s-covid-19-deaths/#12d6083874cd

* https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-health-202/2020/05/19/the-health-202-the-hopeful-news-about-moderna-s-coronavirus-vaccine-is-extremely-preliminary/5ec2e480602ff11bb118504f/

* https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/coronavirus-canada-long-term-care-nursing-homes/2020/05/18/01494ad4-947f-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html

* https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/16/across-the-world-figures-reveal-horrific-covid-19-toll-of-care-home-deaths

* https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/half-of-coronavirus-deaths-happen-in-care-homes-data-from-eu-suggests

onawah
24th June 2020, 23:51
How Scientific Fraud Is Being Used to Justify Lockdowns
From Jeremy Hammond's email update
6/23/20
https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=How+Scientific+Fraud+Is+Being+Used+to+Justify+Lockdowns&utm_campaign=How+Scientific+Fraud+Is+Being+Used+to+Justify+Lockdowns

" "It can be proven that most claimed research findings are false."

That is a quote from one of the most widely referenced papers in all of the medical literature.

It certainly appears to be holding true in the context of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.

There are professional propagandists who masquerade as scientists and whose work is transparently intended to manufacture consent for extreme political responses, i.e., lockdown measures including universal mask-wearing orders.

An illuminating example is a recently published study in PNAS claiming that airborne transmission is the predominant mode by which SARS-CoV-2 spreads in the community and that mask-wearing orders have caused a significant reduction in transmission.

I intend to do a full write-up on this study detailing with graphs precisely why it is nothing less than scientific fraud. But since a number of people have contacted me to ask about it, I thought I'd share just a few brief points so you'll know how to respond when confronted with it by lockdown advocates.

Point #1: This study presented no data on either the airborne transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2 or on the effectiveness of masks in preventing transmission in the community setting. Instead, its authors deduced that this is the predominant mode of transmission and that mask orders are effective by looking at trends in cumulative case numbers.

Point #2: Both conclusions depend on the assumption that a correlation between a decline in the rate of increase in cumulative cases and implementation of mask-wearing orders proves that the use of masks caused the decline. But as we are constantly reminded when, say, the increase in the rate of autism is correlated with an increase in the number of vaccines on the CDC's routine childhood schedule, correlation does not necessarily mean causation.

Point #3: To support the premise that mask-wearing orders are associated with a decline in the rate of increase of cumulative cases, the authors falsely assumed that, absent such orders, cumulative case numbers would have continued linearly upward at a steeper incline. But this is the petitio principii fallacy: it begs the question by presuming the conclusion to be proven in the premise.

Point #4: Not only did the authors fail to demonstrate that such a linear increase would have continued in the absence of mask-wearing orders, that assumption is demonstrably false. They cite data from New York City to prove their case. Well, I obtained the data, and what the data actually shows that the rate of increase in cumulative cases was already decreasing before the mask-wearing order.

Point #5: The authors cannot have been unaware of that fact because for the trend to have continued upward linearly at a higher rate would had to have meant either increasing or plateaued daily case numbers, yet the epidemic in terms of daily case numbers had already peaked some time before the mask-wearing order was implemented, and, in fact, were declining at a steeper rate before the mask order, around which time they began to level off although continuing to decrease.

Point #6: The authors point to a leveling off trend in cumulative cases starting on the day the mask-wearing order was issued. This ignores the incubation period, which is the duration from infection to the onset of symptoms, which has been estimated at a mean of 5 days. The authors claim the mask order caused a flattening even though any possible effect of the order would not have been observed until several days later.

Point #7: There is no observable effect of either the stay-at-home or mask-wearing order in the 7-day average hill-shaped curve of daily case numbers or in the flattened-"S"-shaped curve of cumulative case numbers. Daily cases increased at a higher rate after the stay-at-home order than before it, and following the epidemic peak, as already mentioned, daily cases decreased at a slower rate after the mask-wearing order than before it. According to the authors' own logic, the steeper trendline in cumulative cases after the stay-at-home order compared to before the order is proof that the lockdown caused an increase in cases. (Of course, that logic is flawed because the observed trend is just what we'd expect for the natural curve of a respiratory virus epidemic regardless of any mitigation policies.)

This is much easier to understand when graphed, so I'll be including the graphs in my forthcoming article, but hopefully this explanation gives you a basic understanding of why this study is not just flawed but indicative of outright scientific fraud."

onawah
25th June 2020, 00:01
Forbes Caught in Blatant Censoring Act
by Dr. Joseph Mercola
June 24, 2020
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/24/forbes-censorship-of-coronavirus.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20200624Z1&et_cid=DM573709&et_rid=901204418

"STORY AT-A-GLANCE
Forbes’ June 7, 2020, article on a Norwegian report that claims to present proof that SARS-CoV-2 is a laboratory creation was almost immediately altered to reflect the opposing view
The 180-degree turnaround is being justified by citing “scientific consensus on COVID-19” — a consensus that does not exist
There are many reasons for protecting the narrative that SARS-CoV-2 is of a natural origin. If it is proven to be a lab creation, the public may demand biosafety/biowarfare research into dangerous pathogens be stopped
Thousands of scientists involved in such research would lose their jobs if funding came to a halt and biosafety level 4 laboratories were to be shut down. Many could also potentially face life in prison for violating the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989
American scientists and health organizations would also be responsible, and the U.S. doesn’t want to implicate its own agencies in the creation of SARS-CoV-2
If you need further proof that the mainstream media is censoring truthful news, look no further than Forbes’ June 7, 2020, article on a Norwegian report that claims to present proof that SARS-CoV-2 is a laboratory creation.

The article was initially published with the headline “Norway Scientist Claims Report Proves Coronavirus Was Lab-Made.”1,2 Shortly thereafter, that headline was altered to “Controversial Coronavirus Lab Origin Claims Dismissed by Experts.”3

Forbes Pulls a 180
As revealed in the side-by-side screenshots below, the 180-degree turnaround is being justified by citing “scientific consensus on COVID-19” — a consensus that most certainly does not exist as of yet — and evidence showing SARS-CoV-2 is lab-created is being roundly dismissed as “rumor and conspiracy.” If this doesn’t show you just how complicit the media is driving a pre-established narrative, I don’t know what will.
https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/public/2020/June/forbes-sidebyside-screenshot.jpg

Here's a sample of the changes. The original article states:4

“The study from Sørensen and British professor Angus Dalgleish show that the coronavirus's spike protein contains sequences that appear to be artificially inserted. They also highlight the lack of mutation since its discovery, which suggests it was already fully adapted to humans.”

The updated article now reads:5

“The authors of a British-Norwegian vaccine study6,7 — accepted by the Quarterly Review of Biophysics — claim that the coronavirus's spike protein contains sequences that appear to be artificially inserted.

In their paper, the Norwegian scientist Birger Sørensen and British oncologist Angus Dalgleish claim to have identified ‘inserted sections placed on the SARS-CoV-2 spike surface’ that explains how the virus interacts with cells in the human body. Virologists, however, note that similar sections appear naturally in other viruses.”

Why All-Natural Narrative Is so Important to Maintain
Undoubtedly, the fear of exposure is real, and if you see the words “consensus” or “conspiracy theory,”8 you are likely seeing an attempt at a cover-up. What are they afraid of?

Well, there are many reasons for protecting the narrative that SARS-CoV-2 is of a natural origin. If it is proven to be a lab creation, the public may demand biosafety/biowarfare research into dangerous pathogens be stopped.

If SARS-CoV-2 is an engineered manmade virus, it is proof positive that gain-of-function research poses tremendous risks to humanity and that those risks far exceed any potential gain. Virtually all other threats to humanity — environmental toxins, pesticides, GMOs, pollution — pale in comparison to the danger posed by biodefense/bioweapons research.
Thousands of scientists involved in such research would lose their jobs if funding came to a halt and biosafety level 4 laboratories were to be shut down to prevent another global manmade pandemic from occurring. These laboratories pose probably one of the greatest of any threats to mankind, and we deserve to have a serious debate about their risks and benefits.

Aside from threatening the future of biosafety/biowarfare research in general, many could potentially face life in prison for violating the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989.9

China, of course, has every reason to quell evidence that the pandemic originated in its first BSL4 laboratory, as it could be held legally responsible and restitution claims from affected nations would likely run in the trillions of dollars.10,11

According to tech analyst Ray Wang, founder of Constellation Research Inc., colleagues within the Chinese scientific community told him they were prohibited from discussing the “new strain of flu” that had emerged in China in January 2020, because the Chinese Communist Party wanted to prevent the outbreak from becoming publicly known. According to Wang:12

“Nobody wanted to talk about it because there was a dual-use lab. If you’re a government, you don’t want to hurt your own people either. Today, what’s actually happening is they are trying to cover up for that.”

But American scientists and health organizations would also be implicated, as the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), under the leadership of Dr. Anthony Fauci, funded coronavirus gain-of-function research being done in Wuhan, China. So, to say there’s a lot at stake would be a serious understatement.

The U.S. doesn’t want to implicate its own agencies in the creation of this virus, which is why government officials focus on the source of the leak — China — rather than the fact that it’s engineered. Clearly, if it’s engineered, everyone associated with its creation, including those funding it, would be responsible.

So, when discussing the origin of SARS-CoV-2, it’s important to be crystal clear on what the problem is, namely the existence of dangerous bioweapons/biodefense research. It’s not a condemnation of the Chinese population or its government per se, although critique of China’s handling of the outbreak is getting louder.

Even Fauci has stated, “I think the Chinese authorities that did not allow the scientists to speak out as openly and transparently as they could really did a disservice."13 However, while we may eventually be provided with unequivocal proof that SARS-CoV-2 leaked from the Wuhan lab, genetic manipulation will undoubtedly continue to be denied past any point of believability.

If SARS-CoV-2 is an engineered manmade virus, it is proof positive that gain-of-function research poses tremendous risks to humanity and that those risks far exceed any potential gain. Virtually all other threats to humanity — environmental toxins, pesticides, GMOs, pollution — pale in comparison to the danger posed by biodefense/bioweapons research.Natural Evolution Argument Fails for Lack of Evidence
What we’re seeing now is an ever-widening gulf between scientists and drug-industry-run media. While a majority of the press corps insist there is a “consensus” on the natural zoonotic origin of SARS-CoV-2, scientists keep publishing evidence to the contrary.

For example, a June 8, 2020, paper14 by Daoyu Zhang argues against zoonotic transmission of SARS-CoV-2, stating genetic analyses of pangolin samples used to support zoonotic transference appear to be contaminated:

“Recently, there were much hype about an alleged SARS-like coronavirus being found in samples of Malayan pangolins (Manis Javanica) possessing nearly identical RBD to the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.

Prominent journals cite the alleged discovery to claim that pangolins may be one of a possible intermediate host for the zoonotic transmission of SARS-CoV-2 to humans.

Here, we report that all databases used to support such a claim, upon which metagenomic analysis was possible, contained unexpected reads and was in serious risk of contamination. Here we also report that the presence of unexpected reads are directly related to the presence of coronavirus reads.”

One nowadays rare mainstream news article15,16 that dares look at both the engineering and leaking issue was published in The Wall Street Journal May 29, 2020. As noted in this article, “New research has deepened, rather than dispelled, the mystery surrounding the origin of the coronavirus responsible for Covid-19.” Indeed.

In his article,17 “So Where Did Covid Come From?” foreign reporter Ian Birrell also points out “It’s not mere conspiracy theory to ask if this new coronavirus leaked from a Wuhan lab.” Meanwhile, CNN continues to push the zoonotic narrative by airing a special on the connection between bats and COVID-19.18

As noted in the April 2020 paper, “Is Considering a Genetic-Manipulation Origin for SARS-CoV-2 a Conspiracy Theory That Must Be Censored?” by Deigin and Rossana Segreto:19

“Theories that consider a possible artificial origin for SARS-CoV-2 are censored as they seem to support conspiracy theories. Researchers have the responsibility to carry out a thorough analysis, beyond any personal research interests, of all possible causes for SARS-CoV-2 emergence for preventing this from happening in the future.”

Deigin and Segreto go on to review evidence of a cover-up at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I recently interviewed molecular biologist and virologist Jonathan Latham, Ph.D., about this as well. For the details of this story, see “Cover-Up of Wuhan Virus Exposed.” Deigin and Segreto’s paper20 is also an excellent read.

In short, SARS-CoV-2 may not be a new virus after all. A highly conserved close ancestor was already in the database under the name BtCoV/4991. The question is, why has this been covered up?

The fact that some scientific findings are being censored wholesale while others are being promoted as “consensus” is extremely dangerous and undermines the field of science as a whole.

When the press corps is no longer free to report facts and is instead used as an industry and political propaganda machine to the exclusion of truth, it can only lead to a devolution of society. Is that really what we want? The COVID-19 pandemic, and the economic and social disaster brought in its wake, is a wakeup call to the world in more ways than one.

What’s clear is we cannot afford to continue dangerous gain-of-function research on pathogens. We need to get to the bottom of its origin, so that steps can be taken to ensure something like this does not happen again. If we don’t, repeats are virtually guaranteed, and the next time, we may not be so lucky to get a virus with a mortality rate as low as SARS-CoV-2. "

+ Sources and References
1, 4 Forbes June 7, 2020 (Archived, 1st edition)
2 Twitter David Nikel June 7, 2020
3, 5 Forbes June 7, 2020 (2nd edition)
6 QRB Discovery DOI: 10.1017/qrd.2020.8 (PDF)
7 QRB Discovery DOI: 10.1017/qrd.2020.8
8 MSN.com February 7, 2020
9 S.993 Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989
10 Warontherocks.com March 23, 2020
11 National Review April 6, 2020
12 Lochhead.com June 15, 2020
13 Newsweek June 7, 2020
14 Zenodo June 8, 2020
15 Wall Street Journal May 29, 2020
16 Breaking Views June 7, 2020
17 UnHerd So Where Did Covid Come From?
18 Twitter Peter Daszak June 11, 2020
19, 20 Researchgate DOI: 10.13140/RG.2.2.31358.13129/1

onawah
25th June 2020, 22:23
Why Social Distancing Should Not Be the New Normal
by Dr. Joseph Mercola
June 25, 2020
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/25/social-distancing.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1ReadMore&cid=20200625Z1&et_cid=DM573741&et_rid=902011524

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"STORY AT-A-GLANCE
According to some, social distancing is part of “the new normal.” Alas, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest social distancing and lockdowns will not be necessary at all, and were probably a bad idea in the first place
The rate of SARS-CoV-2 mortality never experienced exponential growth, as was predicted, which suggests a majority of people may have had some sort of prior resistance to the virus
Statistical data reveals a mathematical pattern that has stayed consistent regardless of the interventions implemented. After two weeks of exponential growth, the growth curve quickly becomes sub-exponential
Evidence for resistance to SARS-CoV-2 is emerging. One recent study found 40% to 60% of people who had not been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 still had resistance to the virus on the T-cell level. According to the authors, this suggests there’s cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating ‘common cold’ coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2
One statistician believes the ratio of people that are not susceptible to COVID-19 could be as high as 80%. Once sensible behaviors such as staying home when sick are entered into this model, any potential benefit of lockdown efforts vanish altogether
According to some, Bill Gates prominently among them, social distancing is part of “the new normal.” Alas, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest social distancing and lockdowns will not be necessary at all, and were probably a bad idea in the first place.
According to Nobel-prize-winning scientist Michael Levitt,1 the rate of SARS-CoV-2 mortality never experienced exponential growth, as was predicted, which suggests a majority of people may have had some sort of prior resistance or immunity.

Levitt, a professor of structural biology at the Stanford School of Medicine, received the Nobel Prize in 2013 for his development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems.

No Exponential Growth in Mortality
Statistical data, he points out, reveal a mathematical pattern that has stayed consistent regardless of the interventions implemented. As reported by Freddie Sayers in the video above:

“After around a two-week exponential growth of cases (and, subsequently, deaths) some kind of break kicks in, and growth starts slowing down. The curve quickly becomes ‘sub-exponential.’ This may seem like a technical distinction, but its implications are profound.

The ‘unmitigated’ scenarios modelled by (among others) Imperial College, and which tilted governments across the world into drastic action, relied on a presumption of continued exponential growth — that with a consistent R number of significantly above 1 and a consistent death rate, very quickly the majority of the population would be infected and huge numbers of deaths would be recorded.

But Professor Levitt’s point is that that hasn’t actually happened anywhere, even in countries that have been relatively lax in their responses …

He believes that both some degree of prior immunity and large numbers of asymptomatic cases are important factors … He describes indiscriminate lockdown measures as ‘a huge mistake,’ and advocates a ‘smart lockdown’ policy, focused on … protecting elderly people.”

Quarantining the Healthy Was Unnecessary
Now, evidence for prior resistance to SARS-CoV-2 is emerging, adding support to Levitt’s suspicions that the lack of exponential mortality growth may be due to the fact that a majority simply aren’t (and weren’t) susceptible to the disease in the first place.

At this point, we can clearly see that an all-encompassing global totalitarian plan had been quietly put together, piece by piece, behind the scenes, only to be put into action once a pandemic — real or imagined — emerged. A key player in the coordination of this plan has been Bill Gates, who stands to profit in any number of ways, both from vaccines and technological rollouts.
A study2 published May 14, 2020, in the journal Cell, found 40% to 60% of people who had not been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 still had resistance to the virus on the T-cell level. According to the authors, this suggests there’s “cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating ‘common cold’ coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2.”

In other words, exposure to coronaviruses that cause the common cold appear to allow your immune system to recognize and fight off SARS-CoV-2 as well. This is great news. Professor Karl Friston, another statistician whose expertise is in mathematical modeling, believes resistance or prior immunity could be as high as 80%. Sayers reports:3

“[Friston] invented the now standard ‘statistical parametric mapping’ technique for understanding brain imaging — and for the past months he has been applying his particular method of Bayesian analysis, which he calls ‘dynamic causal modelling,’ to the available Covid-19 data …

His models suggest that the stark difference between outcomes in the UK and Germany, for example, is not primarily an effect of different government actions (such as … earlier lockdowns), but is better explained by intrinsic differences between the populations that make the ‘susceptible population’ in Germany — the group that is vulnerable to Covid-19 — much smaller than in the UK ...

Even within the UK, the numbers point to the same thing: that the ‘effective susceptible population’ was never 100%, and was at most 50% and probably more like only 20% of the population.”
Social Distancing Should Not Be Part of ‘New Normal’
As noted by Sayers, this really throws the idea of social distancing being an unavoidable part of the post-COVID-19 “new normal” into question. What’s more, once sensible behaviors such as staying home when sick are entered into this model, the effect of lockdown efforts “literally goes away,” Friston says.

According to Friston, the reason why Sweden and the U.K., for example, have had very similar mortality rates despite vastly different government interventions (Sweden did not impose mandatory stay-at-home orders or business closures while the U.K. did), is because Swedes who felt sick stayed home anyway. This is common sense for most people, especially during an active pandemic.

When Sayer asks Friston to comment on Neil Ferguson’s now discredited Imperial College model4 that predicted the death of 2 million Americans and 500,000 Britons unless draconian lockdown and social distancing measures were implemented, he replied that Ferguson’s models were correct “under the qualification that the population they were talking about is much smaller than you might imagine.”

“In other words, Ferguson was right that around 80% of susceptible people would rapidly become infected, and … that of those between 0.5% and 1% would die — he just missed the fact that the relevant ‘susceptible population’ was only ever a small portion of people …” Sayer writes.

Pandemic Response Plan Has Been a Giant Flop
Why did U.S. public health officials persuade lawmakers to almost immediately shutter businesses and issue stay-at-home orders for most of our population rather than implementing traditional disease control measures that identify, quarantine and treat the sick? Remember, quarantining is normally reserved for those infected, not for the healthy.

This is a question that deserves an answer. We’re unlikely to get it, however, because the answer would likely reveal that this pandemic has been yet another massive fraud to enrich multinational corporations at the expense of just about everything and everyone else. And, if it weren’t for the captured mainstream media, it would never have worked.

At this point, we can clearly see that an all-encompassing global totalitarian plan had been quietly put together, piece by piece, behind the scenes, only to be put into action once a pandemic — real or imagined — emerged. A key player in the coordination of this plan has been Bill Gates, who stands to profit in any number of ways, both from vaccines and technological rollouts.

As noted by investigative journalist James Corbett in his four-part Corbett Report on Gates,5 “every aspect of the current coronavirus pandemic involves organizations, groups and individuals with direct ties to Gates funding.”

This includes the World Health Organization, of course, but also the two research groups responsible for shaping the decision to lock down the U.K. and U.S. — the Imperial College COVID-19 Research Team responsible for the grossly inaccurate mortality model, and the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation — as well as the National Institutes of Health, and the NIH’s Dr. Anthony Fauci, who has been leading the White House pandemic response team.

Then, of course, there was Event 201, conducted six weeks before the infections started. This was a tabletop exercise staged in October 2019 in which the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the World Economic Forum and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security got together to gauge the nation’s preparedness for a global coronavirus pandemic.

While that exercise revealed “massive preparedness gaps,”6 we’ve seen no shortage of preparedness in terms of comprehensive plans for how to track and trace the infection and vaccine status of everyone using electronic means.

Ditto for plans requiring everyone to carry vaccine records in order to regain the freedom to work, get an education, travel and engage in social activities going forward. I wrote about this elaborate proposal in “Rockefeller Foundation’s Plan to Track Americans.” As noted by Corbett:7

“Given the incredible reach that the tentacles of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have into every corner of the global health markets, it should not be surprising that the foundation has been intimately involved with every stage of the current pandemic crisis, either.

In effect, Gates has merely used the wealth from his domination of the software market to leverage himself into a similar position in the world of global health. The whole process has been cloaked in the mantle of selfless philanthropy, but the foundation is not structured as a charitable endeavor.

Instead, it maintains a dual structure: the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation distributes money to grantees, but a separate entity, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Trust, manages the endowment assets. These two entities often have overlapping interests, and … grants given by the foundation often directly benefit the value of the trust’s assets.”

Medical Mafia
Indeed, I wrote about this illegal setup in “Bill Gates — Most Dangerous Philanthropist in Modern History?” The Canadian citizen journalist who goes by the name "Amazing Polly," has also detailed how global health groups shamelessly use extortion and protection to achieve their goals, which have everything to do with building wealth and nothing to do with protecting or improving public health.8 For more details on this, see “Global Health Mafia Protection.”

In Mafia protection racket schemes, people will pay extortion money when they are convinced bad things can or will happen if they don’t pay the fee. The same phenomenon is now seen with governments who might have been skeptical about an imminent pandemic until the arrival of COVID-19 and now want to pay for preparedness.

All in all, it’s looking like a giant racketeering scheme. And to keep it going into the future, they need everything to fall in line with the idea that nothing can ever be the same as it was pre-COVID-19. Well, that is a lie.

Throughout this pandemic, common-sense prevention strategies have been rebuffed and denigrated, helpful treatment strategies have been suppressed, and scientists and doctors have been censored for speaking out about the usefulness of alternative therapies or older, inexpensive drugs such as hydrochloroquine.

All of this is evidence that public health is not a primary concern but transferring assets to the very wealthy certainly is. Many will be enriched from the global vaccination program and its tracking and tracing technologies, which will ultimately be tied to digital IDs and digital economies.

Enough is enough. The global population needs to see the plan for what it is — a global, totalitarian power grab — and renounce it. We’ve allowed fear to dramatically alter our world. Let’s not make things worse by making those alterations permanent. As noted by Barbara Loe Fisher in her thought-provoking commentary, “How Fear of a Virus Changed Our World”:

“Some of the core values, which have shaped our history and defined who we are as a nation, have been put on trial in 2020 because we are paralyzed by fear of a virus that doctors say could be hiding in the breath of every person who comes near us and contaminate everything we touch …

The authoritarian lockdown approach by governments to the coronavirus pandemic has been framed as a choice between safety and liberty … Public health officials have persuaded lawmakers to divide the American people into two classes: those who are considered “essential” and allowed to continue working and those who are considered “nonessential” and barred from earning a living.

Small businesses and services judged to be “nonessential” have been forced to close their doors … while, paradoxically, everyone is free to roam through grocery stores, drug stores and big box stores like Walmart, Target and Home Depot, owned by big corporations … What we have allowed to be done in the name of public health has no parallel in American history or human history.

The world did not lock down during centuries of epidemics of smallpox, which was a highly contagious virus and had a case fatality rate of 30% … Societies have not closed businesses and schools to prevent tuberculosis, a contagious disease that spreads the same way as coronavirus and has a case fatality rate still between 20% and 70% …

Why are the majority of people in educated societies like the U.S. cowering in fear before a virus that does not cause any symptoms or complications in the majority of children and adults under the age of 65, and has a mortality rate of about 1%, which is even lower if all the asymptomatic infections are counted? …

You have an opportunity, right now, to contact your elected representatives and let them know how you feel about protecting civil liberties and vaccine informed consent rights in your state. Sign up to use NVIC’s Advocacy Portal to defend voluntary vaccine choices.

And, when you go to the polls November 4, 2020, think hard about who you are voting for and why. If you don’t like the response to the COVID-19 pandemic that your governor or other elected representatives have made, your vote in this and every election beyond this one could affect whether America will continue to value liberty or throw it away.”

+ Sources and References
1 Unherd.com May 2, 2020
2 Cell May 14, 2020 DOI: 10.1016/j.cell.2020.05.015
3 Unherd.com June 4, 2020
4 National Review May 6, 2020
5, 7 The Corbett Report, Bill Gates, Video Transcripts
6 Hub November 6, 2019
8 Amazing Polly May 8, 2020

onawah
26th June 2020, 18:32
Soylent Green is people; COVID-19 is old people
by Jon Rappoport
June 26, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/06/26/soylent-green-is-people-covid-19-is-old-people/

"In the 1973 film, a NY police detective discovers the vastly overcrowded, poverty–stricken population of the city—who are being sustained on processed government food, called Soylent—are now eating humans who have died. That’s what Soylent Green is made of.

As I covered in my article (and spoke about) two days ago, open-source press reports reveal the “excess mortality” of 2020 is largely the result of elderly people dying in nursing homes.

This has nothing to do with a virus.

It has to do with patients who are ALREADY on a long downward health slide—then hit with the terror of an arbitrary and fake COVID-19 diagnosis, and then isolated and shut off from family and friends—in facilities where gross neglect and indifference are all too often the “standard of care.”

Death is the direct result.

The managers of pandemic information tell the big lie. They spin tales about “the virus” having a greater impact on the elderly.

No, the STORY about a virus has the impact. The terror has the deadly impact. The isolation has the deadly impact.

To an astounding extent, COVID-19 is a NURSING HOME DISASTER.

Mass murder by cruelty.

Memo to financial investigators: Calculate how much money government and private insurers are saving, because they don’t have to keep paying for the long-term care of all the old people who are dying premature deaths in nursing homes. The money number will be staggering.

Tony Fauci knows the con. He knows COVID-19 is old people. But he’s busy giving advice to the NFL and Major League Baseball about how to play their seasons, while people are dying from the fear he promotes. Fauci has no shred of shame. He’s a mouthpiece turned out by Bill Gates and David Rockefeller.

Evil permeates the COVID operation. The elderly in nursing homes are the primary target. Getting them to die earlier is the tactic, in order to pump up the fake COVID mortality numbers.

Without those phony numbers, the whole “pandemic” would be exposed in an hour.

I’ve said there were two key events in the foisting of the whole vicious COVID fiction—the Chinese regime locking down 50 million citizens overnight for no good medical reason, giving the green light to the World Health Organization and the CDC to “follow the new model”; and the Bill Gates-financed computer projection of deaths, put together by Neil Ferguson, who lied through his teeth when he claimed half a million people could die in the UK and two million in the US—thus supplying the final “rationale” for the lockdowns.

The third key event was and is the sustained attack on the elderly in nursing homes.

Kill these people with terror and isolation, and make the death numbers escalate.

Here are the open-source press reports I included in my article two days ago. There is an additional report at the end.

As of May 22, Forbes reports that, “…in the 43 states that currently report such figures, an astounding 42% of all COVID-19 deaths have taken place in nursing homes and assisted living facilities.”

Washington Post, May 18: “The World Health Organization said half of Europe’s covid-19 deaths occurred in such facilities.”

Headline of same Post article: “Canada’s nursing home crisis: 81 percent of coronavirus deaths [in the country] are in long-term care facilities.”

The Guardian, May 16: “About 90% of the 3,700 people who have died from coronavirus in Sweden were over 70, and half were living in care homes, according to a study from Sweden’s National Board of Health and Welfare at the end of April.”

“Spain—The country was shocked at the end of March when the defence minister revealed that soldiers drafted in to disinfect residential homes had found some elderly people abandoned and dead in their beds.”

“…the regional governments of Madrid and Catalonia have been publishing their own figures on people who have died in care homes from the virus, or while exhibiting symptoms consistent with it.” [AKA, absurd eyeball diagnosis]

“In Madrid, the total for Covid, or suspected Covid, deaths since 8 March stood at 5,886 on Thursday. In Catalonia, it was 3,375. Between them, care home deaths in the two regions account for more than a third of all the coronavirus deaths in the country.”

And there was a great deal of early warning on the subject, if anyone from public health agencies wanted to pay attention—The Guardian, 13 April: “About half of all Covid-19 deaths appear to be happening in care homes in some European countries…Snapshot data from varying official sources shows that in Italy, Spain, France, Ireland and Belgium between 42% and 57% of deaths from the virus have been happening in homes, according to the report by academics based at the London School of Economics (LSE).”

These nursing home figures only give a partial picture. Consider the HUGE NUMBER of elderly, already ill people who are basically in the same situation at home—terrified by COVID propaganda, locked down, isolated; and then die—and also those who manage to make it to a hospital, where they are put on breathing ventilators, heavily sedated, and killed.

The Hill, undated (late April 2020), reporting on “data…gathered at Northwell Health, New York state’s largest hospital system. The study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) examines 5,700 patients hospitalized with coronavirus infections in the New York City region, with final outcomes recorded for 2,634 patients. The average patient age was 63 years old… For the next oldest age group, ages 66 years and older, patients receiving mechanical ventilation recorded a 97.2 percent mortality rate.”

COVID is old people. Pushed into death."

SOURCES:

* https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/06/24/covid-behind-the-global-nursing-home-disaster-and-the-case-number-scam/

* https://banned.video/watch?id=5ef3e20b672706002f2c43de

* https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1274170611280068615

* https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/lockdown/

* https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/neil-ferguson/

* https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/05/26/nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities-0-6-of-the-u-s-population-43-of-u-s-covid-19-deaths/#12d6083874cd

* https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-health-202/2020/05/19/the-health-202-the-hopeful-news-about-moderna-s-coronavirus-vaccine-is-extremely-preliminary/5ec2e480602ff11bb118504f/

* https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/coronavirus-canada-long-term-care-nursing-homes/2020/05/18/01494ad4-947f-11ea-87a3-22d324235636_story.html

* https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/16/across-the-world-figures-reveal-horrific-covid-19-toll-of-care-home-deaths

* https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/half-of-coronavirus-deaths-happen-in-care-homes-data-from-eu-suggests

* https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/494274-nearly-half-of-all-patients-placed-on

onawah
10th July 2020, 15:49
Cases Surging, Deaths are NOT
Ben Swann Reality Check
7/1020
"With new cases of C0R0NAVlRUS surging across the country, the nation is panicking once again talking about the need for more masks, more lock-downs and asking when we can finally get that vaccine. But hold on, because once again new numbers show that the number of people who have already had this virus is vastly higher than what’s being reported… and as the number of cases is surging, the number of deaths is not, here's why."
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onawah
11th July 2020, 01:19
TRUTH with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Episode 7
7/9/20
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/truth-with-robert-f-kennedy-jr-episode-7/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=a395f6e2-7587-4568-888d-e952f4666aec

"In Episode 7 of our weekly “TRUTH” series, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. talks with J.B. Handley, Author of “How to End the Autism Epidemic” about two of his recently CHD published articles “Lockdown Lunacy” and “Lockdown Lunacy 2.0”. The discussion tackles the herd immunity threshold of COVID and many other subjects of the day."
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onawah
12th July 2020, 20:30
HUGE: Coronavirus Tracking Project’s Numbers are Suspect After They Are Caught Tacking On Previous Deaths to Current Totals
By Joe Hoft
Published July 11, 2020
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/huge-cdcs-reporting-coronavirus-deaths-suspect-caught-tacking-previous-deaths-current-totals/

"Twitter user Kyle Lamb put together a chart showing the number of deaths reported by the Coronavirus Tracking Project linked to the China coronavirus.
The results of his work show that the CTP is adding deaths each week from prior periods that make the current period death totals appear greater than they really are and some of these additions are very suspect.The number of deaths reported publicly come from the Covid Tracking Project.
Kyle Lamb created a chart using data from the CDC that shows the number of COVID-19 deaths reported by the CDC and the weeks the death occurred. In the chart below he shows the total number of deaths from COVID-19 reported by the CDC in the top row in grey. These totals change as each week passes with new deaths being reported per week as is expected.In a typical mortality table you should see a few deaths being reported in week one and many more in the following few weeks but then the number of deaths reported that occurred during a specific week decrease as time goes by. After a few weeks this lag in reporting diminishes and eventually all deaths are reported. This is typical in the insurance industry where the industry accounts for deaths being reported on a consistent rate over time with very few claims reported after a few months from the date of event (i.e. the date someone died). This may seem morbid to those not in the insurance industry but this is how it is done. Rarely are there jumps in reporting in prior periods unless something odd is going on (e.g. fraud).
(See charts, etc. in the article at https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/huge-cdcs-reporting-coronavirus-deaths-suspect-caught-tacking-previous-deaths-current-totals/ "

Luke Holiday
12th August 2020, 14:11
Hot off the press from PJW of infowars

In Sweden, Where There Was No Lockdown, COVID Cases & Deaths Have Slowed to a Trickle
Print Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars store
Death rate lower than Spain, the UK and Italy – economy in better shape.

Paul Joseph Watson
PrisonPlanet.com
August 11, 2020

Confounding claims by many that its open society approach to coronavirus would spectacularly backfire, Sweden, which didn’t enforce any mandatory lockdown order, has seen its coronavirus cases and deaths slow to a trickle.

Back in March, when Sweden announced that it would adopt a different approach to much of the rest of the world by refusing to shut down its economy and instead aim for herd immunity, public health experts and media commentators were aghast at the decision, warning that the country’s hospitals would be overwhelmed with COVID victims.

Summing up the attitude towards Sweden’s approach, Danish journalist Lisbeth Davidsen said it was “like watching a horror movie.”

Fast forward five months and the horror show predicted by many has completely failed to materialize.

While fears of a “second wave” of coronavirus continue to plague other European countries that completely locked down and enforced draconian face mask rules, Sweden has recorded barely a trickle of COVID cases and deaths so far in August.

Jordan Schachtel drills into the numbers;

44056

In August, Sweden has registered just one death (!) with/from the coronavirus. Yes, you read that correctly. One death so far.

For the month of July, Sweden reported 226 deaths. They’ve accounted for 805 June deaths, 1646 in May, and 2572 in April. The deaths attributed to COVID-19 went from about a 50% reduction to falling off of a cliff.

The story is the same in the hospitals. COVID-19 is hardly registering as a blip on the radar. Sweden has reported just 4 new COVID-19 patients in their ICUs in August. The month of July saw only 52 COVID-19 patients in ICUs.

It doesn’t take a math whiz to come to the conclusion that the epidemic appears to have been wrapped up in Sweden for months. It’s unclear whether this is a result of having achieved the herd immunity threshold, or if the seasonality of the virus is providing indefinite relief. But it’s become absolutely clear that Sweden’s long term pandemic strategy is working.

Asserting that “there is no evidence anywhere in the world that lockdowns or masks have *stopped* the spread of the virus,” Schachtel notes how public health experts “disregarding hundreds of years of proven science on herd immunity” who mandated lockdowns are responsible for the economic catastrophe which the world will now suffer.

As Newsweek acknowledged last week, Sweden’s COVID-19 death rate is lower than those of Spain, the UK and Italy, countries which all imposed lockdowns.
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

Sweden’s GDP fall of 8.6 in Q2 2020 is also significantly less severe than the 12.1 average experienced in the Eurozone, leaving the Scandinavian country in “much better shape than the rest of Europe.”

As we highlighted yesterday, the lockdowns will plunge at least a hundred million people into extreme poverty.

Add the deaths caused by this to those caused by untreated cancers and other illnesses and we’re looking at deaths caused by lockdown easily outstripping those officially attributed to coronavirus.

So what was the point of lockdown? Control, vaccine agenda, implementation of new financial system, allow for uninterrupted 5 G tower construction, etc...


Remember if you live in Sweden or South Dakota:

1. You could go anywhere without a face nappi
2. Your local gyms, pubs, parks, beaches would be open
3. You could shake hands, and hug without reservation; Do you still remember what that was like?
4. Your children could go to school and not be traumatized by hazmat precautions for a virus that has not been proven to exist.
5. You would not be facing mandatory vaccinations.
6. You would not have to deal with Corona Karens


Interesting how capricious this virus really is: the effect of the "virus" is not a matter of contagiousness or lethality - rather its affects are all a matter of geography...

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Blessings Luke

Metaphor
12th August 2020, 20:11
Hot off the press from PJW of infowars

In Sweden, Where There Was No Lockdown, COVID Cases & Deaths Have Slowed to a Trickle
Print Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars store
Death rate lower than Spain, the UK and Italy – economy in better shape.

Paul Joseph Watson
PrisonPlanet.com
August 11, 2020

Confounding claims by many that its open society approach to coronavirus would spectacularly backfire, Sweden, which didn’t enforce any mandatory lockdown order, has seen its coronavirus cases and deaths slow to a trickle.

Back in March, when Sweden announced that it would adopt a different approach to much of the rest of the world by refusing to shut down its economy and instead aim for herd immunity, public health experts and media commentators were aghast at the decision, warning that the country’s hospitals would be overwhelmed with COVID victims.

Summing up the attitude towards Sweden’s approach, Danish journalist Lisbeth Davidsen said it was “like watching a horror movie.”

Fast forward five months and the horror show predicted by many has completely failed to materialize.

While fears of a “second wave” of coronavirus continue to plague other European countries that completely locked down and enforced draconian face mask rules, Sweden has recorded barely a trickle of COVID cases and deaths so far in August.

Jordan Schachtel drills into the numbers;

44056

In August, Sweden has registered just one death (!) with/from the coronavirus. Yes, you read that correctly. One death so far.

For the month of July, Sweden reported 226 deaths. They’ve accounted for 805 June deaths, 1646 in May, and 2572 in April. The deaths attributed to COVID-19 went from about a 50% reduction to falling off of a cliff.

The story is the same in the hospitals. COVID-19 is hardly registering as a blip on the radar. Sweden has reported just 4 new COVID-19 patients in their ICUs in August. The month of July saw only 52 COVID-19 patients in ICUs.

It doesn’t take a math whiz to come to the conclusion that the epidemic appears to have been wrapped up in Sweden for months. It’s unclear whether this is a result of having achieved the herd immunity threshold, or if the seasonality of the virus is providing indefinite relief. But it’s become absolutely clear that Sweden’s long term pandemic strategy is working.

Asserting that “there is no evidence anywhere in the world that lockdowns or masks have *stopped* the spread of the virus,” Schachtel notes how public health experts “disregarding hundreds of years of proven science on herd immunity” who mandated lockdowns are responsible for the economic catastrophe which the world will now suffer.

As Newsweek acknowledged last week, Sweden’s COVID-19 death rate is lower than those of Spain, the UK and Italy, countries which all imposed lockdowns.
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

Sweden’s GDP fall of 8.6 in Q2 2020 is also significantly less severe than the 12.1 average experienced in the Eurozone, leaving the Scandinavian country in “much better shape than the rest of Europe.”

As we highlighted yesterday, the lockdowns will plunge at least a hundred million people into extreme poverty.

Add the deaths caused by this to those caused by untreated cancers and other illnesses and we’re looking at deaths caused by lockdown easily outstripping those officially attributed to coronavirus.

So what was the point of lockdown? Control, vaccine agenda, implementation of new financial system, allow for uninterrupted 5 G tower construction, etc...

Blessings Luke

I can report as someone with boots on the ground here in Stockholm/ Sweden that most people have been taking this seriously for the most part, but not rigorously like other countries like Spain or Australia. Masks are like perhaps 1 in 50, mostly tourists and elderly. Sweden is of course as divided as other countries when it comes to covid19. Travelling has been reduced, more working from home etc.
Im glad our relaxed attitude paid off, but it also uncovered that we have a very big problem with our elderly care where we had the big majority of deaths. It is shameful how the elderly are treated here in Sweden. Shameful!

Delight
12th August 2020, 21:19
I can report as someone with boots on the ground here in Stockholm/ Sweden that most people have been taking this seriously for the most part, but not rigorously like other countries like Spain or Australia. Masks are like perhaps 1 in 50, mostly tourists and elderly. Sweden is of course as divided as other countries when it comes to covid19. Travelling has been reduced, more working from home etc.
Im glad our relaxed attitude paid off, but it also uncovered that we have a very big problem with our elderly care where we had the big majority of deaths. It is shameful how the elderly are treated here in Sweden. Shameful!

My history on both sides of "health care" is as an RN, family member and client shows me that the person is just raw material for the product which is medical care. I could take pages to recount the horrible (because they are endemic and unapologetic) injuries great and small I have seen. Most significant is the fact that staffing in all facilities is kept very close to marginal.

The reason I am posting this is that as I look on this epidemic of mismanaged care provoked supposedly by a viral illness, I see the intent to kill in plain sight. Institutions for the elderly are notorious at best IMO. However "modern life" is such that those who cannot care for self and home and all that independence entails are cast off (even if unwittingly by well meaning people).

The elderly and the babies are the first to "go" when "times" don't afford the luxury of care. But we ALL GO when it is decreed we are no longer useful to the SYSTEM> IMO. Constance I think identified all the factors deprived by lock down for their citizens that make life worth living now.

This "epidemic/pandemonium" is the PLAN laid bare. We are not expected to survive really...just some will "go" first". Censorship keeps everyone from knowing what the reality IS. The blockades are put up to stop a benign response to the "threat". It is begun with refusal to allow preventive care by way of vitamins and medication. It is furthered by mandatory suffocation, denial of sunlight and fresh air, application of mental anguish and torture to children and denial of human companionship for advocacy and support to all. Then comes starvation (and nursing homes in the west HAVE starved the elderly as reported by some). The end is game is mandatory poisoning of every single person in order to work, travel and participate in social community.

The comfort of spiritual gatherings is nixed. The possibility of momentum to protest is thwarted. We are threatened by cops with fines (we cannot afford) and imprisonment. The leaders carve a path to the edge of the cliff and then set a fire behind us. OR maybe we are led by our misplaced trust and fears. It is "not our fault" really but we will be responsible for our ends anyway. Sorry is all the future will say.

This is not fear porn because it is historic and we can read many tomes of similar action. The response of people in Nazi Germany is very comprehensible in hindsight. This PLAN is what keeps "civilization" from ever progressing past basic survival impulses (including hate and violence).

The shame is old.

Luke Holiday
13th August 2020, 01:01
Hot off the press from PJW of infowars

In Sweden, Where There Was No Lockdown, COVID Cases & Deaths Have Slowed to a Trickle
Print Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars store
Death rate lower than Spain, the UK and Italy – economy in better shape.

Paul Joseph Watson
PrisonPlanet.com
August 11, 2020

Confounding claims by many that its open society approach to coronavirus would spectacularly backfire, Sweden, which didn’t enforce any mandatory lockdown order, has seen its coronavirus cases and deaths slow to a trickle.

Back in March, when Sweden announced that it would adopt a different approach to much of the rest of the world by refusing to shut down its economy and instead aim for herd immunity, public health experts and media commentators were aghast at the decision, warning that the country’s hospitals would be overwhelmed with COVID victims.

Summing up the attitude towards Sweden’s approach, Danish journalist Lisbeth Davidsen said it was “like watching a horror movie.”

Fast forward five months and the horror show predicted by many has completely failed to materialize.

While fears of a “second wave” of coronavirus continue to plague other European countries that completely locked down and enforced draconian face mask rules, Sweden has recorded barely a trickle of COVID cases and deaths so far in August.

Jordan Schachtel drills into the numbers;

44056

In August, Sweden has registered just one death (!) with/from the coronavirus. Yes, you read that correctly. One death so far.

For the month of July, Sweden reported 226 deaths. They’ve accounted for 805 June deaths, 1646 in May, and 2572 in April. The deaths attributed to COVID-19 went from about a 50% reduction to falling off of a cliff.

The story is the same in the hospitals. COVID-19 is hardly registering as a blip on the radar. Sweden has reported just 4 new COVID-19 patients in their ICUs in August. The month of July saw only 52 COVID-19 patients in ICUs.

It doesn’t take a math whiz to come to the conclusion that the epidemic appears to have been wrapped up in Sweden for months. It’s unclear whether this is a result of having achieved the herd immunity threshold, or if the seasonality of the virus is providing indefinite relief. But it’s become absolutely clear that Sweden’s long term pandemic strategy is working.

Asserting that “there is no evidence anywhere in the world that lockdowns or masks have *stopped* the spread of the virus,” Schachtel notes how public health experts “disregarding hundreds of years of proven science on herd immunity” who mandated lockdowns are responsible for the economic catastrophe which the world will now suffer.

As Newsweek acknowledged last week, Sweden’s COVID-19 death rate is lower than those of Spain, the UK and Italy, countries which all imposed lockdowns.
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

Sweden’s GDP fall of 8.6 in Q2 2020 is also significantly less severe than the 12.1 average experienced in the Eurozone, leaving the Scandinavian country in “much better shape than the rest of Europe.”

As we highlighted yesterday, the lockdowns will plunge at least a hundred million people into extreme poverty.

Add the deaths caused by this to those caused by untreated cancers and other illnesses and we’re looking at deaths caused by lockdown easily outstripping those officially attributed to coronavirus.

So what was the point of lockdown? Control, vaccine agenda, implementation of new financial system, allow for uninterrupted 5 G tower construction, etc...

Blessings Luke

I can report as someone with boots on the ground here in Stockholm/ Sweden that most people have been taking this seriously for the most part, but not rigorously like other countries like Spain or Australia. Masks are like perhaps 1 in 50, mostly tourists and elderly. Sweden is of course as divided as other countries when it comes to covid19. Travelling has been reduced, more working from home etc.
Im glad our relaxed attitude paid off, but it also uncovered that we have a very big problem with our elderly care where we had the big majority of deaths. It is shameful how the elderly are treated here in Sweden. Shameful!

Thank you for your boot's on the ground perspective regarding what is really happening in Sweden.

I hope you can help me gain greater clarity regarding the following:

Was my assessment accurate here?

Remember if you live in Sweden

1. You could go anywhere without a face nappi. ( I believe you may have answered this one)
2. Your local gyms, pubs, parks, beaches would be open
3. You could shake hands, and hug without reservation; Do you still remember what that was like?
4. Your children could go to school and not be traumatized by hazmat precautions for a virus that has not been proven to exist.
5. You would not be facing mandatory vaccinations.
6. You would not have to deal with Corona Karens


Also, you mentioned the elderly in nursing homes not be treated fairly and perhaps implicating they are being inhumanely euthanized? I have seen AP stories to this affect - Could you elaborate further?

Thank you for your time and insight

Blessing Luke

Luke Holiday
24th August 2020, 11:38
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8652523/No-lockdown-no-hysteria

Blessings Luke

greybeard
5th September 2020, 10:38
Is Sweden's coronavirus strategy finally silencing the doubters?
Richard Orange
The Telegraph4 September 2020, 10:40 am BST

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/swedens-coronavirus-strategy-finally-silencing-094007330.html

Sweden, whose Covid-19 death rate soared above its locked-down Scandinavian neighbours at the peak of the pandemic, now has a case rate lower than those of Denmark and Norway for the first time since March.

"Sweden has gone from being one of the countries with the most infection in Europe, to one of those with the least infection in Europe, while many other countries have seen a rather dramatic increase,” Anders Tegnell, the country's state epidemiologist, said at a press conference earlier this week.

According to numbers submitted to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Contol (ECDC), Sweden registered an average of 12 new cases per million people over the past week, compared to 18 for Denmark and 14 for Norway.

The number of deaths is currently averaging at two to three per day, down from the peak of over a hundred a day it suffered in mid-April.

Stockholm, the centre of Sweden's pandemic in April and May, registered the lowest number of new cases since March last week.

Denmark, meanwhile, registered 179 new cases on Friday, the highest daily number for more than four months.

Moreover, a test last week of 2,500 randomly selected people found that not one had an active Covid-19 infection, compared to 0.9 per cent at the end of April and 0.3 per cent at the end of May.

"We interpret this as meaning there is not currently a widespread infection among people who do not have symptoms," Dr Tegnell's deputy at the Public Health Agency of Sweden, Karin Tegmark Wisell, said as she announced the results on Thursday.

The improved outlook will come as a relief to advocates of Sweden's less restrictive coronavirus strategy - who were forced onto the defensive in May as the country for a period suffered the highest per capita death rate in the world.

Unlike Denmark and Norway, Sweden never instituted a lockdown, keeping kindergartens, most schools, bars, restaurants, shops and offices open throughout the pandemic. The Public Health Agency of Sweden, which sets the strategy, judged that it was better to rely on voluntary social distancing and self-isolation measures that could be kept in place for a long period.

"What we see now is that the sustainable policy might be slower in getting results, but it will get results eventually," Dr Tegnell said. "And then we also hope that the result will be more stable."

Sweden's decline in cases comes as many of the European countries who used strict lockdowns to control the pandemic are now struggling to prevent cases rising now they have been lifted.

At the same time, the growing protests seen across Europe against even those few restrictions still in place will make reimposing lockdown measures politically difficult.

Speaking on Swedish television, Dr Tegnell said that he believed that grandparents in Sweden, who have been advised to stay isolated and avoid close contact with their grandchildren and children, should now be able to celebrate Christmas with their families.

"I think its probably possible that we can celebrate a little more of a normal Christmas than we would have thought otherwise," he said, although he advised families to "think it through properly", and make sure they had "sensible arrangements" for keeping distance, even going so far as to hire a more spacious venue if necessary.

Sweden has so far reported 5,832 deaths due to coronavirus, more than six times as many as reported in Denmark (264) and Norway (626) combined. This means Denmark and Norway would need to suffer a series of quite severe outbreaks for their per capita death rate to begin to rival that of Sweden.

Sweden is also still carrying out fewer tests per capita than Denmark and Norway, with an average of 1.2 per 1000 people at the end of last month, compared to 2.2 in Norway and 5.9 in Denmark.

Søren Riis Paludan, a professor at Denmark's Aarhus University specialising in viral infections, said he thought the recent rise in cases in Denmark had been amplified by the country's high level of testing. It was too early, he added, to judge the extent to which immunity was bringing advantages to Sweden.

"If immunity is still in the lower percentages, then it will not help that much," he said. "But compared to Norway and Denmark - where we have very few cases - it may help. We can only wait and see whether the hard times that Sweden went through will help them through the coming period."

There are also still questions over Sweden's initial hope that a less restrictive policy would give its population greater immunity to the virus faster will be borne out.

On Thursday, the Public Health Agency of Sweden published new studies of the antibody levels among blood donors, which showed that the proportion nationally with antibodies had slowly risen since March, reaching about seven percent of the population by the end of June, and close to twelve percent in Stockholm.

In Rinkeby-Kista, the worst-hit Stockholm suburb, as many as 18 percent of the 530 16- to 69-year-olds who agreed to be tested had antibodies.

Dr Tegnell said that the difficulty in finding a representative group to test for antibodies made judging immunity in the population "extremely complicated".

"The most important thing we see right now is the continued fall in the number of infected, and part of the explanation for the continued fall that we see is fairly certain to be that we have quite a large proportion of the population who are immune," he said.

Gwin Ru
5th September 2020, 15:17
Before and After: A Photo Series About COVID-19 Isolation in Toronto (11 Pics) (http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/09/before-and-after-photo-series-about.html)
02:50 (http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/09/before-and-after-photo-series-about.html)



https://vimeo.com/453750219

“Before and After” is a photo series by photographer Brad Freeman (https://www.bradfreemanfilms.com/) that documents the isolation he has experienced in Toronto, Canada, during the COVID-19 pandemic. His brother Ryan (https://losslesscreative.com/) also made the above 4.5-minute short documentary about Brad’s experience in creating the work.

When Toronto launched phase 1 of its reopening after its major lockdown, Brad went out with his Leica M3 and created 40 photos on black-and-white 35mm film.


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“Being isolated during the height of the pandemic felt like a dream, it was both familiar and strange at the same time,” Brad says. “I set out to find some sort of normalcy only to realize the world as we knew it had changed. The streets were completely abandoned, a surreal version of our new reality.”


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“I had a lot of anxiety during lockdown, it was a time full of uncertainty,” Brad says. “Being a creative person I was looking for some sort of outlet after being alone for 3 months. I went outside when phase 1 of reopening the city began, but everything seemed to be abandoned.

“It only made me feel more uncomfortable. This uncanny feeling of strangeness and emptiness comes through in the photos.”


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Ernie Nemeth
5th September 2020, 19:11
I had a small out of town job a few months back. Driving on the highways was surreal. No other cars, just us. No one on the streets, no planes, no chemtrails, no boats, no trucks. No one in the stores, gas stations, drive-throughs. No one mowing lawns or kids running around or even dogs barking.

It was very strange.

Beautiful pics of Toronto - I was on those empty subways too during that time because my ride was at the other end of the city. Every day, just me and an empty subway, end to end with 30+ empty stops.