A World Pushing Back Against Covid Lockdown: The Protests, The Revolts, The Non-Compliance

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A World Pushing Back Against CV19 Lockdown: The Protests, The Revolts, The Non-Compliance

World Retaliations After March 2020 Lockdown and Mounting Lockdown Damages

Please use this thread to post videos of any organized public pushback against the worldwide lockdown agenda started two months ago to crush local businesses, put millions out of work, cripple supply lines, destroy food supply production, destroy whole country economies and strip constitutional and human rights under the scapegoat of the CV19 virus, with forced vaccines, digitized money and orwellian chipping threatened to follow.

I think it's important to post any and all genuine public activism no matter how small to see and feel our fellow humans. Local news no longer shows you what is going on anywhere else in the world, and they cannot be relied on to even show you the protests in your own backyard.

Nothing this crushingly destructive impacting so many people simultaneously has ever happened before in Earth history. It is obvious that big buttons are being pushed on purpose and getting people angered is intentional. Many are sensing that big events and life challenges are only beginning.

Please share reports, be safe, be well and intend to be a survivor.

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BREAKING: Ohio Residents Protesting #Coronavirus Lockdown at State Capitol - PEACEFULLY PROTEST!
Apr 13, 2020

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br2W158SJIY

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[Valerie Villars]

From the brilliant and compassionate Hervé. Paraphrasing him. A whole country (France) waking up to the corrupt banking system and rising up in protest.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88469---a-Chauffe-

Link is fixed as per waves request. Thanks waves. :inlove:

[Kryztian]

Also, there is a lot of good information about protest going on here on this thread too

The Turmoil/Chaos Pattern all over the Planet
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108995-The-Turmoil-Chaos-Pattern-all-over-the-Planet

[graciousb]

Some folks in Ohio, U.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=108&v=xhrzisFfuEE&feature=emb_logo

Churches in Riverside County, California, US.
https://kesq.com/news/coronavirus/2020/04/13/civil-liberties-group-sues-riverside-county-over-restrictions-on-religious-gatherings/

[Hermoor]

Berlin. Saturday the 11th of April 2020.

The header is uncomfortable reading and also very telling.

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The comments say there's a protest scheduled in Michigan soon, or one just happened in Michigan.

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https://i.postimg.cc/gJ0vrsNZ/raleigh.jpg

[Jayke]

Steve Pieczenik calling out the absurdity of the global lockdown in his latest video...

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[Deux Corbeaux]

Berlin. Saturday the 11th of April 2020.

The header is uncomfortable reading and also very telling.

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The comments say there's a protest scheduled in Michigan soon, or one just happened in Michigan.

Translation of the slogan people were shouting:

“When you give-up your freedom for security, you will lose both in the end.”

[Hermoor]

Dank u wel Deux Corbeaux. Je ne parle pas tres bien l'Allemand depuis longtemps. Ils ont fait un bon effort!

[shaberon]

In Raleigh, one person was arrested:

https://www.newsobserver.com/latest-news/fnkely/picture242002596/alternates/FREE_1140/RAL_PROTESTARREST-NE-041420-RTW_3%20(1).JPG



No real incident, apparently plucking someone out of the crowd, which dispersed. On this, you will probably get some re-runs:


The ReopenNC group has said it plan to hold weekly rallies on Tuesdays to encourage Cooper to end the restrictions by May 1.


But there is a protest of protest:

The group has spawned an opposition Facebook group, Stay Home NC.

Reopen should perhaps stay out of politics:

"That is a personal right and as a sovereign citizen I have the right to choose what medical procedures I and my children receive. Pandemic status/state of emergency doesn’t change that.”

No such thing as a sovereign citizen. If she is a citizen, she has revocable privileges; how can you protest when you have already admitted surrender?

I can say that in terms of non-compliance, there are stores around here that won't bother with counting the crowds or "putting you in place". They would have to fill every business with police in order for that to happen.

[ExomatrixTV]

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"OPEN TEXAS BACK UP" Austin, TX
Call for protest and future lawsuits for treason.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC6jsGv6G20

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India's migrant workers protest lockdown extension to curb virus
April 15, 2020


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpST8TNcAKI

[AutumnW]

Exomatrix,

I think that those who feel there isn't really a problem should volunteer at extended care facilities for the elderly -- if they will let you in. Would you do that if they'd allow it? If the worst that you might get is the flu, why not?

This is a serious question, not meant to rile you. These places could use volunteer help right now, and lots of it!

[amor]

The world is riled about being pushed past the brink of endurance against the fight for survival, against being enslaved, imprisoned and finally exterminated by the vile NWO SOB's.

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Short video of Michigan gridlock/honking horns... (I don't know how to make a twitter video display as a playable video...)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1250444669269524483

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[ExomatrixTV]

🌐 "Think, it is not illegal yet ... Are we all part of a mass mind-fck?

If you can prove that making: Human car driving 100% illegal and only autonomous cars (self driving cars) are allowed connected to A.I. Run #5G Mass Surveillance Smart Grid WILL save "10 times more" lives than all yearly C0VID19 Deaths Combined. Let that sink in for a moment, as if it is true for the sake of argument.

Would you still drive? ... Would you become MORE (extreme) "afraid" if you drive a car? ... After this mass announcement ... is there something else going on here, something you only see in mass-psychology studies.

Would you accuse all who still drive as they are by de facto "responsible" for all (future) deaths as their rebellion could lead to NOT having a total "human driven cars lock-down" thus 100% "responsible" for all car-accident deaths per year? that could have been prevented if we all (are forced) follow the "script" the globalists pushed narrative. In essence you get easily trapped in a mass mind-fck as you see others doing it blindly trusting (corrupted) authorities.

As above "logic" (strategy) can be applied to very long list that globalists wants to push if they succeed in the mass over-hyped C0rona virus with totally rigged scare monger statistics to (falsely) justify Orwellian style "micro managing" your whole personal life deeper and deeper in great detail!

When anyone states taking risks is part of being alive and you get attacked by the mob-mentality who let others decide all life-risks assessments made by #psychotechnocrats ... You know where this is heading ... right?

cheers,
John Kuhles April 16, 2020 🦜🦋🌳
Founder Fb.com/groups/Stop5G (http://Fb.com/groups/Stop5G)
Stop5G.net (http://Stop5G.net) & Twitter.com/Stop5G (http://Twitter.com/Stop5G)

[Justplain]

I know two people who had covid-19 and survived and my family knows of someone in New York who has died. This pathogen is a dangerous pneumonia causing flu that has varying impacts on victims. However, even if it is highly contagious, it is quite similar in impact to the H1n1 flu epidemic in 2009, which had 150k+ deaths worldwide. There was no global shutdown nor 'social distancing' in 2009, and the world survived just fine. Now, hordes of people and small businesses are being bankrupted. People are being charged for walking in the open air or on empty parking lots. This 'plannedemic' needs to be halted immediately. Those who are sick should self-isolate and take quinine + zinc. The rest of us should get back to normal living.

F*ck their smart cities. F*ck their 5g networks (get shungite pendants to protect yourself). F*ck their UN Agenda 2030. F*ck their media and msm. F*ck their AI.

Love to you all.

[greybeard]

Protesters block Michigan streets to oppose coronavirus lockdown measures
Evening Standard April Roach,Evening Standard

Hundreds of people have protested and blocked roads outside Michigan Capitol to show their anger at the state's stay at home orders and business closures during the coronavirus outbreak.

Operation Gridlock was organised by the Michigan Conservative Coalition after Democrat Governor Gretchen Whitmer extended a stay home order until April 30 and shut down schools and businesses deemed non-essential.

Roads were packed with cars on Wednesday as drivers honked their horns in protest outside the capitol building in Lansing.

Other protesters held signs which read "Gov Whitmer We Are Not Prisoners" and "Michigander Against Gretchens Abuses".

According to Darren Green from the Michigan State Police, traffic was backed up for more than a mile around the capitol in several directions.

“This arbitrary blanket spread of shutting down businesses, about putting all of these workers out of business, is just a disaster. It’s an economic disaster for Michigan,” coalition member Meshawn Maddock said. “And people are sick and tired of it.”

The coalition group posted Operation Gridlock as an event on Facebook in which they referred to the lockdown measures as "tyranny".

The post reads: "Our Governor and her allies are infecting all of us with their radical, progressive agenda.
Supporters of the Michigan Conservative Coalition protest against the state's extended stay-at-home order (REUTERS)

"There is no reasoned and public plan to promote our overall physical and economic health."

Gov Whitmer acknowledged the pain but said the restrictions were necessary to stop the spread of the Covid-19 that has killed more than 1,900 Michigan residents and overwhelmed hospitals in the Detroit area.

Gov Whitmer said she was “really disappointed” to see protesters close together without masks.

“I saw someone handing out candy to little kids barehanded,” the governor told reporters.

“People are flying the Confederate flag, and untold numbers who gassed up on the way here or grabbed a bite on the way home. We know that this rally endangered people.

“This kind of activity will put more people at risk and, sadly, it could prolong the amount of time we have to be in this posture.”

During the rally, Republican House Speaker Lee Chatfield, who has urged Gov Whitmer to amend her orders, waved an American flag from a window at his office.

The number of deaths in the US is nearing 30,000.

Wyoming has become the last state in the US to have a Covid-19-linked fatality.

[T Smith]

Local band of law enforcement in Northern Michigan resisting (https://www.9and10news.com/2020/04/16/4-sheriffs-oppose-gov-whitmers-orders/#&gid=1&pid=2)... refreshing to see.

[ExomatrixTV]

The Backlash Is Here: From Michigan To Kentucky The People Are Rising Up


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Fed-Up Michiganders Stage Massive Protest (https://pjmedia.com/trending/michiganders-stage-massive-protest-against-whitmers-one-size-fits-all-lockdown/) Against Whitmer's One-Size-Fits-All Lockdown

[Tomkoyote]

It is a very delicate situation where we, the people need to maneuver intelligently.
It has become very clear by now what the agenda behind this corona hoax is.
If you say stop the lockdown, no more mask, no more social distancing, the authorities' reaction will be exactly what Governor Whitmer said:

Governer Whitmer:
"Don't put yourself at risk"
"This rally endangered people"
"this rally will put more people at risk"
"it could prolong this posture"

The rally should be about the agenda:
"The coronas virus does not kill"
"The coronas virus is a scam"
"The coronas virus is a lie"
"The coronas virus is a coverup"
"Stop the lies"
"Stop lying to us"
and so on, along those lines

The counter risk is great: If the unrest spreads, I would expect a second wave of infection, this time a real one (maybe Ebola or something else).
If this should happen, remember every disease on the planet has a cure.

[Kryztian]

Thousands converge on Lansing to protest Whitmer's stay home order

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/15/lansing-capitol-protest-michigan-stay-home-order/5136842002/

LANSING — Demonstrators drove thousands of vehicles — many draped with protest signs — to Michigan's state Capitol on Wednesday, loudly protesting Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's stay-at-home order intended to fight the coronavirus pandemic.

Police watched as horns honked and commercial and private vehicles from around the state jammed Capitol Avenue and other streets surrounding Michigan's seat of government.

"Liberty once lost is lost forever," read a sign draped across a commercial van. "Security without liberty is called prison," read another, stretched across the Capitol's front lawn. "Recall Whitmer," a third sign said.

Organizers said they expected thousands of vehicles, and those projections appeared accurate.

Lt. Darren Green of the Michigan State Police estimated several thousand cars were part of the demonstration, with 100 to 150 people on the Capitol lawn. Green said traffic was backed up for more than a mile around the Capitol in several directions.

"They’re being respectful and not causing any issues at all," Green said.

Still, many on the sidewalks were passing close to each other, and most were not wearing masks. Most of the police officers around the demonstration were also not wearing masks.

The Michigan State Police and the Lansing Police Department had reported one arrest by 3 p.m. A demonstrator was arrested on suspicion of assaulting another protester near the corner of Capitol and Michigan, Green said. There were no injuries, he said.

Many of the demonstrators wore hats or waved signs showing support for Republican President Donald Trump.

Though demonstrators appeared to want to keep one lane of Capitol Avenue open for a brief time, all lanes of both that major street and Allegan Avenue were mostly at a standstill.

According to photographs posted on social media and other reports, at least one ambulance was brought to a stop in traffic on Grand Avenue, close to a nearby Lansing hospital. The traffic jam extended east on Michigan Avenue from the Capitol to beyond Pennsylvania Avenue, with idling cars lined up in front of a Sparrow Health System hospital.

John Foren, a spokesman for Sparrow Health System, said there had been no issues with ambulances being unable to access the hospital entrances.

“So far, they have not disrupted things, as far as I’ve been told," Foren said early Wednesday afternoon, referencing entrances to the hospital on Michigan.

However, there were concerns about ambulances being tied up or potentially delayed on their way to the hospital, he said.

Traffic began to slowly flow again about 1:30 p.m., though tie-ups continued in spots, and many vehicles were still headed in the direction of the Capitol.

Justin Heyboer of Alto, an owner of Wildwood Family Farms, said his family has been in business for four generations and the order is financially crippling on several fronts. The company does landscaping, has greenhouses, hosts weddings and has a liquor license, he said.

"This is our busiest time of year," said Heyboer, who drove to Lansing for the demonstration dubbed "Operation Gridlock" because organizers said they wanted to gain attention by tying up traffic.

"I'd rather die from the coronavirus than see a generational company be gone."

Heyboer later said he feels very strongly about the stay-home order but wished he had chosen different words to express that.

Despite the large protest, many Michigan residents have voiced support for the stay-home order, and compliance has been strong.

Mary Ducker, a retired registered nurse who lives in Ypsilanti, said she was disgusted by the protest.

"Please do not make it look like the entire state believes what this handful of ... people do!" she said in an email.

Zack Pohl, Whitmer's communications director, tweeted a series of supportive statements Wednesday from health care professionals.

"There is no question the governor's order and response by Michiganders has slowed the spread of COVID-19," Henry Ford Allegiance Health CEO Paula Autry said in one of those statements.

Meshawn Maddock, a board member of the Michigan Conservative Coalition, the nonprofit group that organized the protest, said the demonstration should send a strong message to the governor that it is time to allow Michiganders to return to work, in cases where they can do so safely.

"All of these people still have to go home to the sober reality that they don't have income coming in," Maddock said. "It's heartbreaking."

Maddock said the rising curve of COVID-19 infections has already been flattened, and that it is time to get Michigan back to work and recreation, especially in areas of the state that have been less hard-hit.

State infection numbers appeared to flatten somewhat going into last weekend, but both infection and death numbers were up again on Tuesday, and an additional 1,058 cases and 153 deaths were reported Wednesday. Health officials have recently expressed cautious optimism but have added that it is too soon to say that the infection has reached its peak in Michigan.

Maddock said the order has wide-ranging effects, including creating difficulties obtaining medical treatment for those with non-coronavirus-related medical problems.

"It feels like the governor is doing this more almost like a publicity stunt," Maddock said. "It also feels like she's mocking Michiganders."

Whitmer has been criticized by Republicans for making numerous national TV appearances during the pandemic, which have included criticism of the Trump administration's response to the pandemic. Laura Cox, the chairwoman of the Michigan Republican Party, has accused Whitmer, who is a national co-chair of former Vice President Joe Biden's Democratic presidential campaign, of auditioning for a spot as his running mate.

Whitmer has rejected those allegations, saying she is driven by scientific data and the advice of health professionals and is focused on saving lives. She has noted that Michigan has the third-highest number of coronavirus deaths in the nation and that in the absence of adequate testing, social distancing is the most effective way of slowing the spread. She also said that each national TV appearance has resulted in more help for Michigan in obtaining needed supplies such as ventilators and surgical masks.

The governor has also said that the demonstration does not violate the stay-at-home order, but she called on Wednesday's protesters to act safely so as not to increase the infection rate or put police or other first responders at risk.

Whitmer declared a state of emergency in Michigan on March 10 and announced a "stay-at-home" order March 23 that directed residents to stay inside, except for essential purposes, and told businesses deemed nonessential to stop calling employees in to work. Last week, she extended that order until May 1, while imposing tougher restrictions on nonessential travel and some retail outlets.

"This is a hard time, but the good news is that the vast majority of people in our state are doing the right thing and ... it's working," Whitmer said at a news conference Wednesday.

The demonstration “wasn’t really about the stay-at-home order at all," Whitmer said later on MSNBC. "It was a political rally,” she said, advocates for open carry of firearms, and people who were protesting against abortion rights.

House Speaker Lee Chatfield, R-Levering, posted video on social media of himself waving a U.S. flag out of a Capitol window that overlooked the protest.

"I will always support the right of the people to protest their government and make their voices heard," Chatfield said.

Two Realtors from Jackson, Rhonda Miles and DeAnn Gumbert, attended the demonstration and both said they believed they would be able to continue showing houses if Michigan followed federal social-distancing guidelines.

"I'm just ready to go back to work," said Gumbert, who said she has sold a few homes, but only with great difficulty, since the executive order forced her to show homes virtually, using photographs and video.

Miles said she is concerned that purchase offers will be withdrawn because interested buyers are unable to personally visit and inspect the homes.

[ExomatrixTV]

Live Stream: The Resistance to Protected Freedoms Abridged:
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LOCKDOWN SHOWDOWN:
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[Kryztian]

German lawyer sent to PSYCHIATRIC WARD after mounting serious resistance to ‘unconstitutional’ Covid-19 lockdown
15 Apr, 2020 19:32
https://www.rt.com/news/485928-german-lawyer-covid-19-psychiatric-ward/

https://i.imgur.com/KwWUPEZ.jpg

A German medical law specialist who launched a rigorous fight against government-mandated coronavirus lockdown rules was taken to a mental health facility after expressing fears she was being targeted by ‘killers.’

Beate Bahner had repeatedly claimed that measures taken by Berlin to stem the spread of Covid-19 threaten nothing less than the nation’s constitutional order itself. The lawyer, from the German city of Heidelberg, was forced to spend a couple of days in a local psychiatric ward after her encounter with police went terribly wrong.

She had already been under police investigation over “calls for an illegal action” after urging Germans to go on a nationwide demonstration against the lockdown last Sunday – in open defiance of the ban on public gatherings.

Bahner called police herself on Sunday when she feared that a car which seemingly blocked her own vehicle in at a parking lot might be driven by “killers” sent to hunt her down. When the officers arrived, she told them she felt persecuted.

What happened next was described by the lawyer as some sort of a nightmarish ordeal.

The police handcuffed her and pushed her to the ground “with brutal force,” Bahner said, in an audio recording attributed to her and which has since been widely circulated online. The officers drove her to a psychiatric ward, where she had to wait for a doctor, who, according to her, “had to first get some instructions from the top or from America.” Bahner said she then had to spend a night in a “Guantanamo-style High Security Ward of Psychiatry,” lying on the floor of her room and without access to a toilet.

The police, however, paint quite a different picture. They said that the woman encountered by the patrol responding to the call “gave a very confused impression,” prompting the cops to take her to a clinic. “She fought back and kicked an officer several times,” a police spokesman told German media, adding that Bahner was eventually admitted to Heidelberg University Hospital.

Both the police and a local public prosecutor’s office repeatedly stated that the incident has nothing to do with the ongoing investigation against Bahner. The lawyer was discharged from the mental health facility after a couple of days.

‘Coronoia’

Bahner is known in Germany as an experienced specialist on medical law, penning several books on related issues. However, as Berlin introduced increasingly restrictive social-distancing rules aimed at stemming the spread of the disease, the lawyer became one of the staunchest lockdown opponents, prompting German media to dub her the “coronoia lawyer.”

Bahner repeatedly claimed that coronavirus is virtually harmless to most people and could only affect about five percent of the population. Furthermore, the German government’s quarantine measures - including closing all non-essential businesses, canceling festivals and sports events, and banning all public gatherings – harm the nation much more than the virus, the lawyer argued.

She slammed the measures as “blatantly unconstitutional” and said they violated Germans’ “fundamental rights” to an “unprecedented extent.” Bahner even filed a lawsuit with the German Constitutional Court last week, demanding it overrule every single order by the German federal and regional governments related to the lockdown, since they “are capable of endangering the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany, its rule of law, democracy and the liberal-democratic basic order in particular.”

The court, however, deemed her application inadmissible on procedural grounds and summarily dismissed it last Friday. Bahner responded by publishing a post on her website declaring all lockdown measures ineffective “immediately” and calling on the public to take to the streets to protest the regulations.

Bahner is now facing a probe over her call for protest action. Her crusade against the lockdown might, meanwhile, become outdated, as Berlin plans to ease some restrictions by early May anyway. To date, Germany has recorded more than 130,000 confirmed cases and over 3,500 Covid-19-related deaths since the start of the outbreak.

[ExomatrixTV]

Are There Lockdown Protests? - Questions For Corbett
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[ExomatrixTV]

Are You Getting It Yet? - The David Icke Dot Connector Videocast:
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Incredibly plain english discussion about plain old foundational constitutional and human rights by a very clear thinking State Representative who can't believe what is happening around her.

To me she says everything right out that is the correct way to say it and demand it as an American.


Idaho State Rep - COVID-19 & Destruction of Liberty
Idaho Representative Heather Scott (Rep dist 1) discusses government overreach with COVID-19

INTERVIEW ON DEFENDING UTAH RADIO April 14, 2020

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEp8GPk60LU

[waves]

Local band of law enforcement in Northern Michigan resisting (https://www.9and10news.com/2020/04/16/4-sheriffs-oppose-gov-whitmers-orders/#&gid=1&pid=2)... refreshing to see.

This deserves a display and a forward to every police department in America.

https://i.postimg.cc/wTKKsYbb/4-sheriffs.png

[wegge]

German lawyer sent to PSYCHIATRIC WARD after mounting serious resistance to ‘unconstitutional’ Covid-19 lockdown
15 Apr, 2020 19:32
https://www.rt.com/news/485928-german-lawyer-covid-19-psychiatric-ward/

https://i.imgur.com/KwWUPEZ.jpg

A German medical law specialist who launched a rigorous fight against government-mandated coronavirus lockdown rules was taken to a mental health facility after expressing fears she was being targeted by ‘killers.’

Beate Bahner had repeatedly claimed that measures taken by Berlin to stem the spread of Covid-19 threaten nothing less than the nation’s constitutional order itself. The lawyer, from the German city of Heidelberg, was forced to spend a couple of days in a local psychiatric ward after her encounter with police went terribly wrong.

She had already been under police investigation over “calls for an illegal action” after urging Germans to go on a nationwide demonstration against the lockdown last Sunday – in open defiance of the ban on public gatherings.

Bahner called police herself on Sunday when she feared that a car which seemingly blocked her own vehicle in at a parking lot might be driven by “killers” sent to hunt her down. When the officers arrived, she told them she felt persecuted.

What happened next was described by the lawyer as some sort of a nightmarish ordeal.

The police handcuffed her and pushed her to the ground “with brutal force,” Bahner said, in an audio recording attributed to her and which has since been widely circulated online. The officers drove her to a psychiatric ward, where she had to wait for a doctor, who, according to her, “had to first get some instructions from the top or from America.” Bahner said she then had to spend a night in a “Guantanamo-style High Security Ward of Psychiatry,” lying on the floor of her room and without access to a toilet.

The police, however, paint quite a different picture. They said that the woman encountered by the patrol responding to the call “gave a very confused impression,” prompting the cops to take her to a clinic. “She fought back and kicked an officer several times,” a police spokesman told German media, adding that Bahner was eventually admitted to Heidelberg University Hospital.

Both the police and a local public prosecutor’s office repeatedly stated that the incident has nothing to do with the ongoing investigation against Bahner. The lawyer was discharged from the mental health facility after a couple of days.

‘Coronoia’

Bahner is known in Germany as an experienced specialist on medical law, penning several books on related issues. However, as Berlin introduced increasingly restrictive social-distancing rules aimed at stemming the spread of the disease, the lawyer became one of the staunchest lockdown opponents, prompting German media to dub her the “coronoia lawyer.”

Bahner repeatedly claimed that coronavirus is virtually harmless to most people and could only affect about five percent of the population. Furthermore, the German government’s quarantine measures - including closing all non-essential businesses, canceling festivals and sports events, and banning all public gatherings – harm the nation much more than the virus, the lawyer argued.

She slammed the measures as “blatantly unconstitutional” and said they violated Germans’ “fundamental rights” to an “unprecedented extent.” Bahner even filed a lawsuit with the German Constitutional Court last week, demanding it overrule every single order by the German federal and regional governments related to the lockdown, since they “are capable of endangering the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany, its rule of law, democracy and the liberal-democratic basic order in particular.”

The court, however, deemed her application inadmissible on procedural grounds and summarily dismissed it last Friday. Bahner responded by publishing a post on her website declaring all lockdown measures ineffective “immediately” and calling on the public to take to the streets to protest the regulations.

Bahner is now facing a probe over her call for protest action. Her crusade against the lockdown might, meanwhile, become outdated, as Berlin plans to ease some restrictions by early May anyway. To date, Germany has recorded more than 130,000 confirmed cases and over 3,500 Covid-19-related deaths since the start of the outbreak.

The situation with this German Lawyer seems actually tricky. I´ve discussed a video of hers, in German, which surfaced today, with our Forum member Christian. We both couldn´t make sense of it. My sense is that all the stress around her going against the state could have actually triggered something like paranoia/overwhelm. She clearly seemed confused in the video of her hearing on wednesday, and slightly out of touch. The people protesting for her, who were engaged in dialogue with her, also had bouts of "what the f*ck" are you talking right now.

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[onawah]

She may have become a target of one or more of their blackop weapons, which are said to cause great disorientation.

[QUOTE=Kryztian;1351287]German lawyer sent to PSYCHIATRIC WARD after mounting serious resistance to ‘unconstitutional’ Covid-19 lockdown

The situation with this German Lawyer seems actually tricky. I´ve discussed a video of hers, in German, which surfaced today, with our Forum member Christian. We both couldn´t make sense of it. My sense is that all the stress around her going against the state could have actually triggered something like paranoia/overwhelm. She clearly seemed confused in the video of her hearing on wednesday, and slightly out of touch. The people protesting for her, who were engaged in dialogue with her, also had bouts of "what the f*ck" are you talking right now.

[ExomatrixTV]

#PlanDemic Exposed ‼️🌐

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Commie Michigan Governor Just Made Michigan One Step Closer to a Warzone!


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[EFO]

Romania...Hunedoara city...about two hrs. ago...encircled and withdrawing police

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[roguemoon]

i'm going for bold with this: there is no virus, its simply radiation exposure leading to radiation pneumonia.

Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell, a Brooklyn, New York-based physician trained in emergency medicine and critical care,
"The patients in front of me are unlike any I've ever seen. They looked a lot more like they had altitude sickness than pneumonia. This odd array of symptoms may emerge because the lungs continue to clear carbon dioxide from the blood WITHOUT absorbing adequate levels of oxygen,

Dr. Muriel Gillick, a geriatric and palliative care physician at Harvard Medical School.
‘Even if patients do develop acute respiratory distress, they may not benefit from ventilation either. The thick fluid clogging up the lungs limits oxygen transfer from the lungs to the blood, even when a machine pumps in oxygen. In this case, placing a patient on a ventilator could damage their lungs by introducing too much pressure into the organ.’

CV19 is basically an exosome, something that cells release when the lungs are under attack, the test thats being done is simply finding genetic material.

CV19 is a scam leading to mandatory vacinations.

[waves]

i'm going for bold with this: there is no virus, its simply radiation exposure leading to radiation pneumonia.

Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell, a Brooklyn, New York-based physician trained in emergency medicine and critical care,
"The patients in front of me are unlike any I've ever seen. They looked a lot more like they had altitude sickness than pneumonia. This odd array of symptoms may emerge because the lungs continue to clear carbon dioxide from the blood WITHOUT absorbing adequate levels of oxygen,

Dr. Muriel Gillick, a geriatric and palliative care physician at Harvard Medical School.
‘Even if patients do develop acute respiratory distress, they may not benefit from ventilation either. The thick fluid clogging up the lungs limits oxygen transfer from the lungs to the blood, even when a machine pumps in oxygen. In this case, placing a patient on a ventilator could damage their lungs by introducing too much pressure into the organ.’

CV19 is basically an exosome, something that cells release when the lungs are under attack, the test thats being done is simply finding genetic material.

CV19 is a scam leading to mandatory vacinations.

I think you should cross post this right after post #197/what T. Smith just posted on the Covid19: Don't trust the statistics (or the science re the tests/the cause of the sickness) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110507-Covid19-Don-t-trust-the-statistics--or-the-science-re-the-tests-the-cause-of-the-sickness-) thread.

The Dr. Sidell video was already posted there a week or so ago, but not anything corroborating from Dr. Gillick.

But combined with what T. Smith just posted of a Dr. Bush saying something similar and suggesting the hypoxia is glyphosate toxicity related, we might be getting somewhere.

And I have to say, is building more and more of a case for the signature below I've been repeating for a month now, but adding more details in an unexpected direction.


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[Philippe]

URGENT :Does anyone on the forum has documentation about a test done by the Russians about the transmission of disease from a sick to a healthy plant ?
Many of you understand that plants have a consciousness and communicate telepathically. There is a thread about these old proven findings.
But in the Russian test, as per verbal information I got, consequently thicker shields were put between the sick and healthy plant but the contamination continued unabated. Shielding went from a glass wall to steel.
Any documentation about what was actually done and what was found would be highly appreciated.

[greybeard]

Philippe.
Experiments were done with mice finding cheese in a maze with each "try" the mice got faster at finding the cheese -- then it was found that mice tested on the other side of the world, first try, mirrored the speed of the rats here.
So what one can do all can do -- telepathic perhaps ---- AND Perhaps__ its possible for virus and disease to transmit at a level beyond human social contact. In other words -- those Intune with --receptive to the energy of an illness will catch it regardless of precautions. Basically there is no separation, all are connected --like the spiders web, if any part of the spiders web is touched the whole web vibrates.
So thats thinking out of the box --but -- if its true, lockdown and social distancing is a complete waste of time, a % of the population will get this regardless of precautions -- though it may be possible to minimise the effects.
People who are healthy should be working through this.
Chris

[Philippe]

Philippe.
Experiments were done with mice finding cheese in a maze with each "try" the mice got faster at finding the cheese -- then it was found that mice tested on the other side of the world, first try, mirrored the speed of the rats here.
So what one can do all can do -- telepathic perhaps ---- AND Perhaps__ its possible for virus and disease to transmit at a level beyond human social contact. In other words -- those Intune with --receptive to the energy of an illness will catch it regardless of precautions. Basically there is no separation, all are connected --like the spiders web, if any part of the spiders web is touched the whole web vibrates.
So thats thinking out of the box --but -- if its true, lockdown and social distancing is a complete waste of time, a % of the population will get this regardless of precautions -- though it may be possible to minimise the effects.
People who are healthy should be working through this.
Chris

Chris,
Thank you for this further example of telepathic inter-connectedness. Yes the lock-down is a total insanity and consequence of the marketing power of the evil pharmaceutical empire on the planet. The pandemic of scare and the hunt of the virus has fooled most of the world and some opinion makers in the alt community and on this forum will have to admit. As per naturopaths like Dr.Tall Schaller in Geneva I give some hints :
- The body develops a disease in trying to handle a cellular intoxication (poisonous food and medicine, pollution, electrosmog, emotions and stress, etc. I add existential end-times stress).
- Their basic healing law: "The terrain is everything, the microbe is nothing"
- And more esoteric: people crossing each other send out signals (not the viruses who are everywhere) and when there is a problem with cellular intoxication an illness for healing is generated. But heavily intoxicated persons have an immune system that collapses and when with serious underlying disease they die.

My first conclusion: if we want to avoid further epidemics the populations will have to change their eating and living habits. No vaccine against a "virus" will help or has ever helped. Only the gradual decontamination of all accumulated types of toxicity and poisons of different kinds. No other solution.
My next conclusion: the authorities and populations will need to be convinced of that truth. Repressive lock-downs are useless and harmful.

EDIT : On the Exosomes thread appeared this brilliant explanation of how the virus works. We are getting there to solve a mystery that has fooled the whole world. Lets put the corrupt pharma industry in bankruptcy and bring real justice !

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110706-Exosomes&p=1351909&viewfull=1#post1351909


I re-post my research question:

URGENT :Does anyone on the forum has documentation about a test done by the Russians about the transmission of disease from a sick to a healthy plant ?
Many of you understand that plants have a consciousness and communicate telepathically. There is a thread about these old proven findings.
But in the Russian test, as per verbal information I got, consequently thicker shields were put between the sick and healthy plant but the contamination continued unabated. Shielding went from a glass wall to steel.
Any documentation about what was actually done and what was found would be highly appreciated.

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[onawah]

Are Elected County Sheriffs America’s Last Hope to Fight Medical Tyranny? Some Sheriffs Refusing to Enforce Stay at Home Orders, Siding with Constitutional Rights
April 19, 2020
https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/are-elected-county-sheriffs-americas-last-hope-to-fight-medical-tyranny-some-sheriffs-refusing-to-enforce-stay-at-home-orders-siding-with-constitutional-rights/

by Brian Shilhavy
Editor, Health Impact News

"Every county in the U.S. elects a sheriff to oversee law enforcement within that county. As elected officials, County Sheriffs take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America, and protect the constitutional rights of their constituents, even if it means standing up to federal agents and others, like State Governors, who would seek to violate the rights of their constituents within their counties.

Most all other law enforcement departments and administrators in the U.S. are appointed, not elected. The County Sheriff is the exception.

One of the largest Constitutional Sheriffs association is the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA). On their “Statements of Positions” page they define their duties to uphold the Constitution:

America needs to make a strong turn around to get back on the freedom track laid for us by our Founders. We believe it can’t be done from the top down, due to many factors, not the least of which is corruption and entrenched bureaucracies in high places. We must, and we can, accomplish this turn- around starting locally at the county level, and lower. The office of county sheriff is the last hope of making this happen, and we are witnessing great deeds of protection, service, and interposition across America by courageous sheriffs who only want to serve the people who elected them.

Some sheriffs across the U.S. are beginning to take a stand and oppose their State Governors’ unconstitutional “Stay at Home” orders which have put millions of people out of work, and destroyed many thousands of businesses.

Racine, Wisconsin County Sheriff Christopher Schmaling is one of those sheriffs, and he made waves this week when he took a public stand in favor of his constituents Constitutional Rights, and against Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers’ “Safer at Home” order. As ABC local affiliate WISN 12 reports:

On Friday, Schmaling released a statement that said he will not enforce the order because he believes it violates businesses’ and citizens’ constitutional rights.

“The overreaching measures taken by State government will have dire lifetime consequences for businesses, homeowners, and families. I took an oath to uphold the constitutional rights of our citizens and I can not in good faith participate in the destruction of Racine County businesses or interfere in the freedoms granted to all of us by our Constitution,” Schmaling’s statement said. (Full Story: https://www.wisn.com/article/racine-county-sheriff-refuses-to-enforce-safer-at-home-order/32193363 )

Schmaling is not alone.

This past week four sheriffs in Michigan took similar stands against Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. As The Detroit News reports:

The same day thousands rallied in Lansing to protest provisions of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-home order, four northern Michigan sheriffs said they would not strictly enforce the order and three Michigan residents filed another federal suit against the governor and county prosecutors tasked with enforcing her order.

The four sheriffs from Leelaunau, Benzie, Manistee and Mason counties called Whitmer’s orders “vague” and an “overstepping” of her executive authority. They said they were the “last line of defense in protecting your civil liberties.”

“We write today to inform the public of our respective counties of our opposition to some of Gov. Whitmer’s executive orders,” according to a statement sent by the sheriffs.

“While we understand her desire to protect the public, we question some restrictions that she has imposed as overstepping her executive authority. She has created a vague framework of emergency laws that only confuse Michigan citizens.” (Full Story: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/16/4-michigan-sheriffs-another-lawsuit-challenge-whitmer-stay-home-order/5145989002/ )

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Former Sheriff Richard Mack, the Founder of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, also published an email newsletter this week titled: A Tale of Two Sheriffs.

A Tale of Two Sheriffs
by Sheriff Richard Mack (Ret)

“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.”
~ Charles Dickens

This was Dickens’ analysis of radical opposites between England and France during the French Revolution. Perhaps America is going through similar extreme contrasts today as a result of our own “Panic-demic” pursuant to the Coronavirus.

Indeed, as Paine penned “These are times that try men’s souls.” However, instead of a “Tale of Two Cities,” perhaps our present crisis is “A Tale of Two Sheriffs” and our analysis takes us to contemporary radical opposites.

On the one hand we have Sheriff Scott Nichols of Franklin County, Maine, who told his Governor that he would not follow her orders to make his county a “Police State.” Sheriff Nichols went on to say that he and his officers would not act like “Nazis” but would continue to respect the liberties of all citizens within their jurisdiction.

Conversely, Sheriff Chad Chronister of Hillsborough County, Florida, arrested Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne for conducting church services at a mega-church in Riverview, Florida. Sheriff Chronister claimed that the church gathering was an “unlawful assembly” according to the State’s non-essential services rules. Pastor Howard-Browne was booked into jail and then released on bail.

These two sheriffs could not be demonstrating two more extreme contrasts: One siding with American ideals and the U.S. Constitution and the other siding with rules and policies. One stood against Nazi Germany tactics, the other arrested a clergyman for having church.

The CSPOA asks this question to all Americans and the entire world; which sheriff, which lawman would you prefer to have working for you? The First Amendment reads, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging… the right of the people to peaceably assemble…”

Does Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne have the God-given right to conduct his church according to his conscience and to peaceably assemble? If he does, no crisis can nullify or set aside such rights. If government can suspend our liberty and rights whenever they determine the necessity to do so then is there any law or right that public servants cannot destroy at will? Which is supreme, a rule describing “essential services” or the First Amendment?

Again I ask, which Sheriff do you want in your county?

“One of the most disturbing facts in history is that, in the lifespan of every civilization, there comes a time of crisis when the primal instinct of collective survival overrides all other values.”
~ G. Edward Griffin

At this time we must be vigilant and remember that our Founding Fathers created the best contract between a people and their servant government. This contract has made us the greatest country in history.

The further we drift from our Constitution, the closer we come to reestablishing the Tyranny from which we revolted. The continuous and gradual theft of our liberties by opportunistic politicians and an overreacting media is destroying our federation. We agree with voluntary compliance for health and safety, but the solutions now being presented are only causing more problems for Americans today, and will cause even more for our children tomorrow.

The evidence and solutions proffered to arrest and eliminate the Coronavirus come from many different and often conflicting supposed “experts” and leave a confusing melting pot of advice that fails to present a direct path of hope for Americans to cling to. Whatever the facts and numbers are, the “cures” presented are, in many cases, worse than the disease. So, we must focus on the certainty of the Principles of Liberty, including, but not limited to, individual liberty, limited government, enumerated powers, Federalism and state & individual sovereignty.

We can address the majority of these concerns by immediately taking three essential actions:

– Unitedly “appeal to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions.”
– Restore our God-given liberties and civil rights.
– Stop the lock-down and restore the economy.

Regardless of the severity of this current crisis, we demand that the process of governing be carried out in full acknowledgement of the unalienable rights granted by our Creator, holding them sacred as part of the Oath of Office.

Therefore, in order to protect the American people, BE IT RESOLVED that the following abuses will not be allowed or tolerated:

A) Registration of personal firearms under any circumstances.

B) Confiscation of firearms without probable cause, due process, and Constitutionally compliant warrants issued by a local or State jurisdiction.

C) Inspections of Persons or Property without probable cause and constitutionally compliant warrants as required by the 4th Amendment.

D) The detainment or search of Citizens without probable cause and proper due process compliance, or the informed consent of the Citizen.

E) Arrests with continued incarcerations without charges and complete due process, including, but not limited to, public and speedy jury trials.

F) Domestic utilization of our nation’s military or federal agencies operating under power granted under the laws of war against American Citizens.

G) Government infringement on citizens’ basic rights. Those include the right to travel to any public area they wish, and the right to reject medication for any reason.

H) The infringement on parental rights, including the removal of children from their care without probable cause and due process as spelled out in the Bill of Rights. Parents have the exclusive right to choose or deny medical care, education and religious instruction as they deem essential for their children’s welfare.

AND, BE IT FURTHER REAFFIRMED THAT,

“…The Constitution protects us from our own best intentions. It divides power among sovereigns and among branches of government so that we may resist the temptation to concentrate power in one location as an expedient solution to the crisis of the day.”
(Mack/Printz v US)

The enforcement of any “law” or policy contrary to the Constitution is criminal and morally reprehensible. We applaud the many sheriffs, peace officers and public servants who have refused to arrest or cite the people who have chosen to go about their lives.

We also applaud President Trump for his measured approach in the guidelines he has proposed. Jefferson warned us that in such times, government can reason and persuade, but never use force against the people. President Trump has displayed true leadership in adhering to this principle. The most dangerous thing happening in our nation is not the coronavirus, but the destruction of Liberty, the United States Constitution, and the American Dream.

Therefore, in keeping with our aforementioned goals, we most humbly and fervently implore President Trump to remind us all daily that we are indeed One Nation Under God, by beginning each press conference with a word of prayer.

Also, a plea from each of us that not only will he, the President, keep his oath to uphold and defend the United States Constitution, but that he will expect all local, State and Federal public servants to do the same.

And finally, that we will keep the April 30th deadline and reopen America, end the lockdown and put all Americans back to work. We stand together as friends and neighbors to endure this crisis while simultaneously keeping Liberty and America intact for all future generations.

To this end we mutually pledge to ourselves and our posterity, our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Outbreak? We’ve been there before
Here’s a link to a video from 2010 where Richard Mack discussed the importance of maintaining our liberties during the H1N1 swine flu crisis.
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Crisis is When We Most Need the Constitution
Sam Bushman, Radio Talk Show Host and CSPOA Board Member

The following is a transcription of portions of a recent radio broadcast on Sam’s radio show, Liberty RoundTable.

I’m going to point out what I would do if I were President. I would spend my, (probably not two hours of the seventeen minutes or an hour every single day)… I would probably spend my time with a whole lot shorter venues, but I would focus on how we’re obeying the Constitution – how we’re using the checks and balances to really promote the greatest country on the face of the earth.

We are setting this up as a beacon, as a light on a hill to teach the nations of the world how to appropriately share authority, respect power, and literally obey the checks and balances. That’s what I believe.

Look, whenever there is a crisis, whenever there is a crisis of the day as Richard Mack wisely coined, actually that was in a court case. Whenever there is a crisis of the day, they seem to say, well, the Constitution is wonderful Sam but, we are going to set it aside right now because it’s crisis time. When we get back to normal see, then we will go ahead and be super constitutionalists of course.

I have a problem with that! I think the biggest time we need the checks and balances, the biggest time we need the Constitution, and the vertical and horizontal checks on power…the biggest time we need to obey the Constitution is when there is a crisis.

Because of the coronavirus, we need to double down and go to the Constitution more than ever – not circumvent it or pretend it doesn’t exist or halt it or set it aside temporarily because of the ends justifies the means, or we have to act now.

The Constitution is the political supreme document designed to help us work through this in a way that does not fundamentally change America – that does not put government in control of us – that does not allow government to cross lines of authority.

The constitution is the answer. It’s more the answer in the middle of any crisis. The bigger the crisis the more the supreme law should be the answer and the more the checks and balances should be followed.

If I were President, that’s where I would go. I would educate people on the checks and balances. I would educate people on my authority and what I can do. I would be putting a lot in congress’ court to work on and do.

I would be doubling down and telling you how I am keeping my oath of office and what I intend to do to use this supreme law and turn to the Constitution and to God, to work through this crisis in the way the founding fathers intended and I will not violate your rights in the process.

I will do my very best to use the blueprint given to us, specifically designed for when a crisis occurs.

Does that seem like a reasonable way to move forward? Good heavens, I have got an oath and I intend to keep it, and I demand everyone else keeps their oaths as well.

We are going to respect the new process of law. We are going to give you the best guidance we can give you – the best intel on the ground we can give you. We are going to leave it up to the states and the people respectively, based on the tenth amendment.

We are just going to use this blueprint, baby, like you’ve never seen before. Get on board or get the heck out of the way, people. Come on!
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Contact Your County Sheriff
If you believe your elected County Sheriff should be protecting your Constitutional rights, even if it means defying your State’s Governor, then let your County Sheriff know this, and let him or her know that they do not stand alone!

If you organize protests in your community or at your State Capital, invite your Sheriff to be part of that protest."

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[onawah]

Ron Paul: We Need Millions Out on the Streets Expressing Their Opinions
April 19, 2020
https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/ron-paul-we-need-millions-out-on-the-streets-expressing-their-opinions/

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"Medical doctor and former Congressman and U.S. presidential candidate Ron Paul has been broadcasting daily via his Liberty Report TV show, bringing a different perspective to the coronavirus pandemic that you are not likely to hear much about in the corporate-sponsored “mainstream” media.

This past week (April 2020) his show highlighted the growing protests by U.S. citizens around the country who are objecting to the loss of jobs and civil liberties due to the government’s actions in the name of “public health.”

Thousands have protested in states across the U.S., with protests this past week occurring in states like Michigan, Ohio, and Kentucky.

Mass protests are breaking out across the United States against the tyrannical “stay at home” orders and forced shut-downs of businesses deemed “non-essential.” More than 20 million are suddenly unemployed and they are demanding to know why, with seasonal flu deaths often even higher than those predicted for coronavirus, they are forced into joblessness, poverty, and despair by a political class that faces none of these things. (Source.)

But Ron Paul states that if we want to maintain what little liberty we have left in our republic, “millions” (not thousands) need to start taking to the streets in peaceful protests.

Dr. Paul believes in “Resistance without Violence,” like Martin Luther King advocated.

Dr. Paul also addresses the impact on the financial system this has caused:

What about the economic policy – the financial system that takes care of the billionaires…? A few billionaires made billions and billions of more dollars, and they’re on the receiving end of the bailouts.

All of this would be answered if the people would give up on the dependency of government, and believing their authoritarianism is in their best interest. It’s in the best interest of the special interest and powerful people who are in charge.

Watch the full episode of his Liberty Report:
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Comment on this article at HealthImpactNews.com: https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/ron-paul-we-need-millions-out-on-the-streets-expressing-their-opinions/

[Philippe]

PRECAUTIONARY PRINCIPLE

As the true nature and working of a virus is becoming increasingly clearer, I hereby remind all members and potentially thousand readers that the precautionary principle should be respected.
I experience heavy reactions of fear in my family when I say it is not the virus that should be feared.
So if you can reassure your family and community who are affected by cellular intoxication by existential end-times fear, when necessary wear a mask, take of your shoes when coming back to the house and make all signs that are reassuring.
The forum has done extraordinary great efforts to teach how to protect and increase the immune system.Those like me that do not believe any longer in the prevailing science of viral epidemics should not act without precaution for others. We should certainly not violate the precautionary principle as happened over the many years by criminal scientists in f.i. Monsanto or the Wireless industry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle


We have been fooled and put in jail for nothing !

On the Exosomes thread appeared this brilliant explanation of how the virus works. We are getting there to solve a mystery that has fooled the whole world. Lets put the corrupt pharma industry in bankruptcy and bring real justice !

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1351909

I was on the same trail since one week and as often happens spiritual vibration and connectedness brings it out elsewhere and it will be growing. Wonderful. :flower:
I have also an official attest of french professor doctor Fourtillan that can be used to refuse any vaccination with aluminum. Hopefully it can take away the literally sick-making existential anxiety of many for the threat of coming mandatory vaccinations. I try to get an english translation.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110697-A-World-Pushing-Back-Against-CV19-Lockdown-The-Protests-The-Revolts-The-Non-Compliance&p=1351825&viewfull=1#post1351825

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The guy ranting like a lunatic in that video is "fighting for freedumb!"

You got it, buddy!



Evidence from all across the globe shows uncontrolled, high infection, and mortality rates in places that were not prepared or choose to ignore the warnings of honest, qualified, medical specialists. Not everyone is part of the dark state trying to kill you. I feel for the frontline workers that will inevitably have to take care of these "freedumb" fighters when the time comes.

I'm not trying to upset anyone here, just calling it as I see it. Surely i can't be the only person on avalon thinking this?!

[lloyds]

One more thing.

When the secret police raid your house in the middle of the night, beat you and take you and your family to a concentration camp and torture or kill you, then you can compare it to a Nazi take over. Imbeciles.

[spade]

Evidence from all across the globe shows uncontrolled, high infection, and mortality rates in places that were not prepared or choose to ignore the warnings of honest, qualified, medical specialists.

High infection rate = yes, high morbidity = no for those who have not taken the previous injections. HCQ will deal with it immediately.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.

[shaberon]

Evidence from all across the globe shows uncontrolled, high infection, and mortality rates in places that were not prepared or choose to ignore the warnings of honest, qualified, medical specialists. Not everyone is part of the dark state trying to kill you. I feel for the frontline workers that will inevitably have to take care of these "freedumb" fighters when the time comes.

I'm not trying to upset anyone here, just calling it as I see it. Surely i can't be the only person on avalon thinking this?!

Well it is both high and low; for some reason it gives unequal treatment. That is why I am not a big fan of statistical averages. I can believe that Iran for example went from zero to swamped in about forty-eight hours and many places are like that. Here, it is just not happening that way. So the degree of emergency should be a local decision.

This week's huge mass of about 150 protestors around here was met by about...150 police.

It is mostly just some people standing there, nothing I would call a revolt.

As far as I can tell, southern states are soonishly getting re-opened and so there is little to protest on that account; as for the so-called permanent changes and other issues, there will probably be plenty to object to.

[helium]

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.


On the other hand, my experience here on the PA forum is the opposite. I see a lot of fear porn that in fact makes me ill. I can get that stuff elsewhere if I want it. From January to mid-March PA forum did good. But things seemed to have gone downhill since then in terms of COVID posts from my point of view. Our forum IS a sanctuary. Don't get me wrong. I expected better from many members, though.

My opinion about re-opening cities is that if that re-opening is demanded by the populace against medical advice, as in checking out of a hospital against medical advice, then fine, let the people have what they want. But any cost, financially and medically, is on their shoulders. Those who decide not to participate in re-opening can remain as they are, safe as they can make their homes in a sea of ignorance. When outbreaks occur and cannot be controlled then those who shun the best of the medical advice available should not become a burden on the hospitals. Turn them away. Maybe their guns will heal them.

That is pretty much where we are at anyway - marginally safe in our green zones, surrounded by huge numbers of ignorant, scared, and frantic individuals who may or may not listen to advice. These folks should be doing their own research and education. I had a friend visit me from Seattle lately. He had all kinds of questions about the COVID situation and he wanted answers from me. I couldn't say much that would satisfy him. He hadn't done any reading on his own and was unlikely to do so in the future. Months ago all of the friends I have in Seattle received links to good sources of info from me (Martenson, John Campbell, and others that most members here are familiar with). Did any of them follow up? No. And they still insist that I answer all of their questions to make them feel better in a touchy-feely sort of way.

Fact is, I'm well stocked an prepared, but I'm headed out today for even more supplies. I anticipate riots due to ignorance. People should be collaborating and sharing resources instead of acting out like little children. What is needed is leadership. Where will it come from? Obviously not from government or big business. EVERYONE is responsible for EVERYONE'S safety and well-being. Even in 'statistically' safe rural areas re-opening businesses and public places is very risky without planning and preperation. At least the seniors here in my little community will have extra food from the masses of stuff I've accumulated, if they need it. I also stocked oxygen and common prescription meds, anticipating that my neighbors would at some point not have access to the pharmacy.

I especially liked the images this morning on zerohedge of militia waving guns while wearing masks. What an amusing incongruity.

Humanity is being tested. It's that simple. And we seem to be failing at this point in time. Maybe we can learn and figure out how to pass the test. Enlightened, educated caring and collaboration is the key in my view.

[prc]

I would like to disagree with the views from this thread that claims that coronavirus is a HOAX or it is like a FLU because I have already counted 7 people from my personal contact that have died from Covid-19 and this number is only rising here. I cannot recall in previous years to have lost 7 people from my network from Influenza, H1N1 or FLU. So FOLKS, This is not an ordinary FLU and no one here on this thread is able to determine if you contract coronavirus you will be assymptomatic, you will need Hospital or even if you will die in a few days.

Coronavirus is not spreaded by 5G MASTS like DAVID ICKE claimed as well because in Brazil There is no single 5G MAST installed since the Government has not auctioned yet the frequencies to be used by 5G Technology here.

So go on the streets at your own risk and due to your own Ignorance.

Whether coronavirus was launched to destroy the economy is open for debate and will be only clear in the post world after the lockdown and the virus pandemic is over. , but you can always recover the economy, but you cannot rise from the dead a person that died from Coronavirus. So in my opinion Health is more important than economy.

In Brazil the government measures to deal with coronavirus pandemic are: Monthly payment for 3 months for self- employed people that lost income. Help to micro, small and medium business total amount of help around R$400 billion reais. Central Bank will buy enterprise bonds. Help to rescue Medium Banks to avoid bankrupcy and financial system risk.

[happyuk]

This is "Following the Guidance" right?
9th April, Russells Hall Hospital, Dudley, UK – clapping the NHS:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsbirmingham/amazing-turnout-for-clap-for-carers-at-russells-hall-hospital/ar-BB12qTdT

Loads of people gathered to cheer the NHS – no masks, no distancing, “non-essential activity”, and the staff are clearly being stretched – dancing around outside… Another video of the same event:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nTGY4ihnrkh3

I’ve heard of more than a few reports of half-full hospitals and not-very-busy wards, including from my significant other (a clinical nurse specialist specialising in heart failure and palliative care). I guess this gives these people plenty of time to do the above.

This flagrant exhibitionism and self-congratulatory virtue signalling makes my blood boil.

[DaveToo]

I would like to disagree with the views from this thread that claims that coronavirus is a HOAX or it is like a FLU because I have already counted 7 people from my personal contact that have died from Covid-19 and this number is only rising here. I cannot recall in previous years to have lost 7 people from my network from Influenza, H1N1 or FLU. So FOLKS, This is not an ordinary FLU and no one here on this thread is able to determine if you contract coronavirus you will be assymptomatic, you will need Hospital or even if you will die in a few days.



prc I'm sorry to hear of the loss of lives of your personal contacts.

You need to realize a few things.

First you are an exception. I don't know of any other Avalon member who has lost 7 people they have known personally.

Second, I have been charting the cases/deaths of more than 60 countries for weeks now.
There is a distinct pattern that emerges in all countries.
After 30-45 days a clear downward trend emerges for both the number of cases and deaths occurring in that country.

There are now only a few countries worldwide that still haven't reached the peak of cases, the rest are clearly in decline now.

This 30-45 day period of increase/peak/decrease of cases/deaths is not unique to Covid-19.
It occurs with all pandemics (such as the seasonal flu). And most importantly, it occurs naturally, without measures taken to quarantine anyone.

[shaberon]

So in my opinion Health is more important than economy.



Many of us would like to think that way, but in most cases the world does not run that way. At the 2012 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro it was announced that almost every country has been going exactly backwards since the 1992 Earth Summit. Perhaps there is no such thing as an industry that actually is healthy. They cause their own problems at the same time as spreading disease internationally. If we have almost any kind of economy, risk and damage follow.

Most of us are not saying there is no danger; I guess we would ask if Brazil's hospitals are all overloaded, or if any are.

I am not too persuaded that masks, etc., are a great preventative, until we look at things like subways. But one thing I have seen is merchants covering public card terminals with plastic sheets so they can easily clean them. Cleaning this several times a day probably actually does block numerous diseases.

[greybeard]

There is a very interesting video on this linked by a true expert.
In a way it belongs here as valid information is needed to push back.
Most people need a gentle introduction to what is really going on
I have given a resume below
Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110505-Covid19-Global-reports-news-and-updates&p=1352260&viewfull=1#post1352260


Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness why he thinks:

- UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based
- The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only
- This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a “by-product”
- The initial UK response, before the “180 degree U-turn”, was better
- The Imperial College paper was “not very good” and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact
- The paper was very much too pessimistic
- Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway
- The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown
- The results will eventually be similar for all countries
- Covid-19 is a “mild disease” and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people.
- The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1%
- At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available]

[Tomkoyote]

Surely i can't be the only person on avalon thinking this?!
No, not the only person, but nearly the only person. I can clearly see the color of your parachute.
Wear a mask and leave the rest of us alone; go try elsewhere.

[T Smith]

I would like to disagree with the views from this thread that claims that coronavirus is a HOAX or it is like a FLU because I have already counted 7 people from my personal contact that have died from Covid-19 and this number is only rising here. I cannot recall in previous years to have lost 7 people from my network from Influenza, H1N1 or FLU. So FOLKS, This is not an ordinary FLU and no one here on this thread is able to determine if you contract coronavirus you will be assymptomatic, you will need Hospital or even if you will die in a few days.

Coronavirus is not spreaded by 5G MASTS like DAVID ICKE claimed as well because in Brazil There is no single 5G MAST installed since the Government has not auctioned yet the frequencies to be used by 5G Technology here.

So go on the streets at your own risk and due to your own Ignorance.

Whether coronavirus was launched to destroy the economy is open for debate and will be only clear in the post world after the lockdown and the virus pandemic is over. , but you can always recover the economy, but you cannot rise from the dead a person that died from Coronavirus. So in my opinion Health is more important than economy.

In Brazil the government measures to deal with coronavirus pandemic are: Monthly payment for 3 months for self- employed people that lost income. Help to micro, small and medium business total amount of help around R$400 billion reais. Central Bank will buy enterprise bonds. Help to rescue Medium Banks to avoid bankrupcy and financial system risk.

Your post sums up the situation--the imbroglio--humanity is currently enduring. There are a lot of known knowns; there are a lot of known unknowns. Here's what we know:

Something is making people sick; some people are dying because of it. Or maybe not because of it
There is disease in our world; people are sickly and unwell; the environment is laden with toxins and people die all the time
Maybe more people are dying of COVID-19 (whatever it is) than they are of other seasonal illnesses, e.g, the flu, pneumonia, etc. But maybe not
Maybe this is a real pandemic; maybe not
Maybe SARS CoV-2 is causing people to get COVID-19 and die and maybe the crisis could collapse our health care system; but maybe not (a lot of empty hospital beds and unused ventilators in NYC)
Maybe a bioweapon is causing the sickness; but maybe not
Regardless how many people are getting sick or dying and from what, regardless of what may be or may not be, our leaders and technocrats are lying about it, covering up the truth, hyping it, inflating the number of cases and deaths, peddling fear, suppressing and banning cures and solutions, and employing propaganda (and even encouraging the spread of pandemic), whether real or promulgated, so to enact draconian measures to corral the people to advance an agenda, among other things we know not what (Of all the ambivalence above, of all we know or don't know about SARS CoV-2 and COVID-19, these observations in this one bullet point--if nothing more--we are 100% sure of)

The question is, whatever is happening in our world right now, what can we do about it? Stay locked in our rooms forever or until society devolves to the hunger-games (or worse), whatever comes first? Because we are so afraid some of us might get sick or a very small number of us may die? In my view whether it's a hoax or not is truly irrelevant to the broader issue; the manner by which authoritarians and technocrats are managing the crisis, the solutions they are imposing on society, and the world they are fashioning for us on the "other side of this" pandemic (wherever that is) are 100% clear. The truth is, the way this narrative is playing out there is no "other side" of this crisis. By submitting to the narrative we are agreeing to enter a world of perpetual lockdown, in some form or another, from which there is no return. That is not because I believe the virus will stay with us forever (even though we are being subtly conditioned to accept this notion) or because I don't think we can reach herd immunity, but because that's the agenda driving the narrative.

Regardless what's going on with SARS CoV-2, be it a bioweapon, a hoax, or genuine pandemic that risks the collapse of our health care resources, the agenda driving the narrative is clearest damn thing about this entire situation.

The problem, then, I have with folks who subscribe to the measures we are taking for our collective safety isn't an issue of what's more important between our safety or the economy, it's an issue of the broader picture. I have to respectfully disagree with the assumption many who advocate for safety are making. That is, many assume at some point after we have all been "good citizens" for the sake of defeating the virus that we will suddenly move back into a "post world after lockdown when the virus pandemic is over."

Given the current trajectory of this narrative, I can see no post world that resembles anything like our pre-COVID-19 world. Do you really believe the PTB are ever going to let us out of the pen once whatever this is passes?

[prc]

Answering T Smith post, a microbiologist and Yale University PHD Brazillian Epidemiologist called Atila Iamarino gave an interview on Television and said that the world we used to have where we used to go by freely on the streets, go to cinemas, theathers, pubs, shows, football matches wihtout any consequence is over. According to him there is no such a thing as the world we had before because this world does not exist anymore until we get either a medicine or a vaccine that cures or prevent the virus. He said that even if the Government determine that we can go on the streets and go to huge gatherings, he himself will not go to football matches, cinemas, theatres because he does not want to risk to pass on the virus to his loved ones. Those with pulmornary diseases, heart diseases, diabetes, high blood pressure and other diseaseases that constitute a risk group, even if the Government says you can go wherever you want, will not risk their lives either.

[DaveToo]

There is a very interesting video on this linked by a true expert.
In a way it belongs here as valid information is needed to push back.
Most people need a gentle introduction to what is really going on
I have given a resume below
Chris

...
- At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available]

I have no doubt that this will indeed be the case.

And if it is, does it make sense to force-vaccinate the entire population?

If 50%+ of the population already had the virus, they obviously don't need a vaccine for it.
The other 50%- of the population either were strong enough to resist the virus naturally if they encountered it, or if they didn't there are two possible outcomes.

So let's take a closer look at the second group, the 50%-.
Let's say half of them were strong enough to resist the virus naturally when they encountered it.

That leaves around 25%- of the initial population.
Let's say they haven't encountered the virus yet.

These people if exposed to the virus in the future will react the same as the initial 50%+ did. Very well overall.

So what would the point be for a vaccine, apart from lining the pockets of big F
and pushing TPTB's world control agenda?

[DaveToo]

Answering T Smith post, a microbiologist and Yale University PHD Brazillian Epidemiologist called Atila Iamarino gave an interview on Television and said that the world we used to have where we used to go by freely on the streets, go to cinemas, theathers, pubs, shows, football matches wihtout any consequence is over. According to him there is no such a thing as the world we had before because this world does not exist anymore until we get either a medicine or a vaccine that cures or prevent the virus. He said that even if the Government determine that we can go on the streets and go to huge gatherings, he himself will not go to football matches, cinemas, theatres because he does not want to risk to pass on the virus to his loved ones....

prc, please read my post #74.

[onawah]

Your own ignorance is in full view here, prc.
NO one has said that 5G masts spread the virus. What is obvious is that 5G weakens peoples' resistance to viruses and other conditions, and add to that ever-increasing pollution in the air, food and water such as is being experienced in many places around the world, you have conditions ripe for a "perfect storm" of illness and death, but it cannot all be contributed to a virus that is causing no more deaths than the seasonal flu.
I find it very hard to believe that you personally know 7 people who have died from the coronavirus.
Most of the deaths reported as being due to the virus were actually due to pre-existing conditions.
The test for the virus is not only faulty, but has been reported to be contaminated itself.
Respirators are as much to blame for many deaths as much as anything else.
Opinions--everyone has one, but it doesn't count for much if you haven't really done your research.


Coronavirus is not spreaded by 5G MASTS like DAVID ICKE claimed as well because in Brazil There is no single 5G MAST installed since the Government has not auctioned yet the frequencies to be used by 5G Technology here.

So go on the streets at your own risk and due to your own Ignorance.

[Patient]

Answering T Smith post, a microbiologist and Yale University PHD Brazillian Epidemiologist called Atila Iamarino gave an interview on Television and said that the world we used to have where we used to go by freely on the streets, go to cinemas, theathers, pubs, shows, football matches wihtout any consequence is over. According to him there is no such a thing as the world we had before because this world does not exist anymore until we get either a medicine or a vaccine that cures or prevent the virus. He said that even if the Government determine that we can go on the streets and go to huge gatherings, he himself will not go to football matches, cinemas, theatres because he does not want to risk to pass on the virus to his loved ones. Those with pulmornary diseases, heart diseases, diabetes, high blood pressure and other diseaseases that constitute a risk group, even if the Government says you can go wherever you want, will not risk their lives either.

He clearly sounds like a speaker hired by Gates to push his vaccine agenda.

We need new media platforms to speak from - the main sites (you tube and facebook) are being controlled more every day.

[waves]

:focus: :focus: :focus: :focus: :focus:

PLEASE??

There are 10+ other ACTIVE threads discussing the statistics legitimacy and veracity of CV19. Starting the same arguments here too is completely inappropriate to this thread topic and very intrusive.

Things were going really well until lloyd and prc. I understand how those who valued and honored this thread would want to retort, but can we please get back to respecting the TOPIC OF THE THREAD - the WORLD PUSHING BACK OVER THE LOCKDOWN.

Mods, could you please move the off topic sequences to the appropriate thread. It's getting out of hand and becoming another thread with the same arguments.

THANK YOU.


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[waves]

I love this channel, Defending Utah Radio and TV. They're really doing a good job of laying out the Constitutional rights and practical legalities for us all.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkjX_zXNAxs&t=1137s



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[lloyds]

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.

No, no emotional programed space. Just facts. A governor or state official using the professional data they are given by field experts and then implementing a legal course of action to protect the health and well being of the people they represent. If to you, this sounds like what the nazi's did. You are by definition, an imbecile.

[Bill Ryan]

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.

No, no emotional programed space. Just facts. A governor or state official using the professional data they are given by field experts and then implementing a legal course of action to protect the health and well being of the people they represent. If to you, this sounds like what the nazi's did. You are by definition, an imbecile.

Mod note from Bill:

The best response to this unnecessarily antagonistic and unpleasant post is the post to which it was a reply. :)

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.

[lloyds]

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.

No, no emotional programed space. Just facts. A governor or state official using the professional data they are given by field experts and then implementing a legal course of action to protect the health and well being of the people they represent. If to you, this sounds like what the nazi's did. You are by definition, an imbecile.

Mod note from Bill:

The best response to this unnecessarily antagonistic and unpleasant post is the post to which it was a reply. :)

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.


Bill, do you think governments putting in place protective measures to the best of their abilities to protect the weak and vonerable is akin to Nazi behaviour?

[Mandala]

Ran across this interesting video. My question is was it altered or is this for real? lOTILnYwFkQ

[Sarah Rainsong]

I would like to disagree with the views from this thread that claims that coronavirus is a HOAX or it is like a FLU because I have already counted 7 people from my personal contact that have died from Covid-19 and this number is only rising here. I cannot recall in previous years to have lost 7 people from my network from Influenza, H1N1 or FLU. So FOLKS, This is not an ordinary FLU and no one here on this thread is able to determine if you contract coronavirus you will be assymptomatic, you will need Hospital or even if you will die in a few days.

Coronavirus is not spreaded by 5G MASTS like DAVID ICKE claimed as well because in Brazil There is no single 5G MAST installed since the Government has not auctioned yet the frequencies to be used by 5G Technology here.

So go on the streets at your own risk and due to your own Ignorance.

Whether coronavirus was launched to destroy the economy is open for debate and will be only clear in the post world after the lockdown and the virus pandemic is over. , but you can always recover the economy, but you cannot rise from the dead a person that died from Coronavirus. So in my opinion Health is more important than economy.

In Brazil the government measures to deal with coronavirus pandemic are: Monthly payment for 3 months for self- employed people that lost income. Help to micro, small and medium business total amount of help around R$400 billion reais. Central Bank will buy enterprise bonds. Help to rescue Medium Banks to avoid bankrupcy and financial system risk.

Your post sums up the situation--the imbroglio--humanity is currently enduring. There are a lot of known knowns; there are a lot of known unknowns. Here's what we know:

Something is making people sick; some people are dying because of it. Or maybe not because of it
There is disease in our world; people are sickly and unwell; the environment is laden with toxins and people die all the time
Maybe more people are dying of COVID-19 (whatever it is) than they are of other seasonal illnesses, e.g, the flu, pneumonia, etc. But maybe not
Maybe this is a real pandemic; maybe not
Maybe SARS CoV-2 is causing people to get COVID-19 and die and maybe the crisis could collapse our health care system; but maybe not (a lot of empty hospital beds and unused ventilators in NYC)
Maybe a bioweapon is causing the sickness; but maybe not
Regardless how many people are getting sick or dying and from what, regardless of what may be or may not be, our leaders and technocrats are lying about it, covering up the truth, hyping it, inflating the number of cases and deaths, peddling fear, suppressing and banning cures and solutions, and employing propaganda (and even encouraging the spread of pandemic), whether real or promulgated, so to enact draconian measures to corral the people to advance an agenda, among other things we know not what (Of all the ambivalence above, of all we know or don't know about SARS CoV-2 and COVID-19, these observations in this one bullet point--if nothing more--we are 100% sure of)

The question is, whatever is happening in our world right now, what can we do about it? Stay locked in our rooms forever or until society devolves to the hunger-games (or worse), whatever comes first? Because we are so afraid some of us might get sick or a very small number of us may die? In my view whether it's a hoax or not is truly irrelevant to the broader issue; the manner by which authoritarians and technocrats are managing the crisis, the solutions they are imposing on society, and the world they are fashioning for us on the "other side of this" pandemic (wherever that is) are 100% clear. The truth is, the way this narrative is playing out there is no "other side" of this crisis. By submitting to the narrative we are agreeing to enter a world of perpetual lockdown, in some form or another, from which there is no return. That is not because I believe the virus will stay with us forever (even though we are being subtly conditioned to accept this notion) or because I don't think we can reach herd immunity, but because that's the agenda driving the narrative.

Regardless what's going on with SARS CoV-2, be it a bioweapon, a hoax, or genuine pandemic that risks the collapse of our health care resources, the agenda driving the narrative is clearest damn thing about this entire situation.

The problem, then, I have with folks who subscribe to the measures we are taking for our collective safety isn't an issue of what's more important between our safety or the economy, it's an issue of the broader picture. I have to respectfully disagree with the assumption many who advocate for safety are making. That is, many assume at some point after we have all been "good citizens" for the sake of defeating the virus that we will suddenly move back into a "post world after lockdown when the virus pandemic is over."

Given the current trajectory of this narrative, I can see no post world that resembles anything like our pre-COVID-19 world. Do you really believe the PTB are ever going to let us out of the pen once whatever this is passes?

This post got me thinking, and I'm not sure it exactly belongs on this thread, but I don't know where else to put it, so here goes:

I think you make a lot of good points here, but I disagree about the agenda being clear. I was thinking about that--you got me thinking, T Smith, but this isn't directed specifically at you.

It does not look clear at all to me. (Disclaimer: I've been reading mostly US and specifically GA news, so this is the viewpoint I'm coming from.) If the agenda is to sow chaos, maybe. But if it's about control, I don't see it.

What I see is that the federal government is filled with the most selfish, power-hungry *psychopaths. The only agenda they're driven by is their own individual agenda, which makes a national or global agenda impossible. This is displayed by total ineptness, willful ignorance, inability to empathize, and inability to actually accomplish anything. You're more likely to get a reasoned individual at the state level, but that's not a guarantee.

Shut-downs and such are being accomplished more at a state level than at the national level. You have states like Michigan, where the governor seems to be intent on controlling everything. (I know it's a bit old and has been lifted, but banning the sale of seeds?! WTH?!) And then you have states like mine, Georgia, where the governor seems to be doing nothing but what's being whispered in his ear. My opinion, yes, but he really seems to be simply parroting someone rather than thinking for himself.

Our government has arrived at a place where they are more insistent on winning against the opposite party than they are actually doing anything meaningful. The sole exception is when it hits their pocketbook. So you have massive agreement on bailing out the stock market and huge corporations--where their money is--but anything else is subjected to their "how can I personally profit" attitude.

We need push-back to bring some common sense back to D.C. and some states. But we need to be mindful of our own over-all attitude. We must bear some responsibility for putting the idiots in D.C. As much as I'd like some other force to come along and solve that problem, be it a virus or aliens or whatever, we are going to have to solve our own problems. So I'm in support of a lot of the protests.

However, we need to be careful in doing so that we don't become like what we're protesting. Everyone deserves having their basic security needs met. That should be part of the benefit of living in a society (not on a deserted island). People should not have to choose between basic security needs and spreading/catching a lethal virus.

The answer is not to pull the pendulum all the way to other side into anarchy. I think some people seem to think that we need no rules at all (not necessarily here on PA, although sometimes I wonder, but I do see it in other places). I don't think we as a country have arrived at that level, in spite of being the so-called leaders of the free world.

We need to pull the pendulum UP, into a higher level, not swing it back to the opposite direction. I'm not sure how to get there, but whatever path that is, it isn't going to come without pushing back.

I'd like to see the push-back come at a higher level (energetically speaking). Stop fussing over wearing masks and just wear them already. That's putting other people's health above your own at minimal cost to you. That's pulling the pendulum above the current swing, in other words, rising above the situation.

Push back against banning seed sales. Push back against closing small businesses when the very nature of those business can easily be adapted to help fight against viral spread. Push back against those refusing to help others less fortunate than them, especially when they're capable of helping without sacrificing their security.

I'm looking at the heads of large corporations, the multi-millionaires that can afford to skimp a bit to help others, the greedy people who would rather hoard for themselves without thought to others.

Pushing back out of arrogance or selfishness or fear is only going to bring more of the same.

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ETA: meant to add this in:
*psychopath - "a person having an egocentric and antisocial personality marked by a lack of remorse for one's actions, an absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies" from Merriam-Webster

[Patient]

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.

No, no emotional programed space. Just facts. A governor or state official using the professional data they are given by field experts and then implementing a legal course of action to protect the health and well being of the people they represent. If to you, this sounds like what the nazi's did. You are by definition, an imbecile.

Mod note from Bill:

The best response to this unnecessarily antagonistic and unpleasant post is the post to which it was a reply. :)

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.


Bill, do you think governments putting in place protective measures to the best of their abilities to protect the weak and vonerable is akin to Nazi behaviour?

I believe that the person in the video was implying that the current situation could evolve to something similar to what was experienced in WW2 - not that we are already there.

The stress of the pandemic and all of the media work around it certainly has done a good job of spreading fear, anger, paranoia and anxiety. We need to do better here where so many people come looking for information and help.

Everyone, relax your shoulders and breathe.

[Bill Ryan]

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.

No, no emotional programed space. Just facts. A governor or state official using the professional data they are given by field experts and then implementing a legal course of action to protect the health and well being of the people they represent. If to you, this sounds like what the nazi's did. You are by definition, an imbecile.

Mod note from Bill:

The best response to this unnecessarily antagonistic and unpleasant post is the post to which it was a reply. :)
When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.


Bill, do you think governments putting in place protective measures to the best of their abilities to protect the weak and vulnerable is akin to Nazi behaviour?A genuine thanks for the question, which I do appreciate. :highfive:

I strongly believe the virus is being USED as a justification for Fascism Lite. :)

It's pretty clever, the way all this is being done. For sure, it's being orchestrated by some supranational entity.

Not the WHO — they're not bright, competent or aware enough. The WHO is just someone's PR platform, and not even a very convincing one. (In fact, their comedy of errors has been lamentable.)

My very strong guess is that the source of the avalanche of controls worldwide is the same source as whoever released the virus, or expedited the release of the virus. And I strongly suspect that was a deep black US-based agency.

The confusing (and distracting!) issue for many is that the virus is real, and occasionally dangerous to some — even totally healthy young people, like US navy sailors, for example. Some members of the Avalon community have it, or have had it. It's absolutely no fun, and it's not the flu.

But the measures being taken against it are way over the top, in many cases. It's pretty easy to see many examples. The danger is the thin end of the wedge of frog-in-the-pot creeping authoritarianism (as David Icke calls it, the Totalitarian Tiptoe), Pavlov's-dog-conditioning citizens to gradually accept more and more (a) restrictions on freedom, and (b) surveillance, censorship and other forms of control.

Just like a slow-motion 9/11. No more terrorists blowing up buildings in the US (or anywhere else), but you still have TSA screening, no-fly lists, and you can't take toothpaste in your carry-on luggage because you could [somehow!] blow up the plane with it.

That's unlikely ever to be walked back. And that's global, too, even in the very many countries which have never known a terrorist incident. This is the playbook, and what we're seeing now is another page of it. (Maybe a whole new chapter.)

The NWO isn't quite with us yet, but this is one step closer. For that reason alone, what's happening is very very dangerous.

If I were in the US, I'd be protesting against the lockdowns. For sure. But here in Ecuador where I live, my personal situation is very unusual (for which I feel consciously blessed). I live in a remote area, I'm surrounded by wilderness, and I can walk out my front door and hike for miles (as I did yesterday) and not see a single person.

So almost nothing has changed for me. I have to wear a mask to go to the supermarket in the nearest city, 20 miles away, or they'd not let me through the door. But that's really no biggie.

Much more amusing (and a caricature of some of the insanity) is that I was pulled over by the police last week and told to wear my mask... in my car. Go figure! :bigsmile:

[TravelerJim]

Ran across this interesting video. My question is was it altered or is this for real? lOTILnYwFkQ

I posted this on another thread and think it is major. It is so telling that it reminds me of videos of UFOs that are so real one might think they are fake! In any case, looks real to me but if it is fake it is quite impressive.

[Tomkoyote]

Ran across this interesting video. My question is was it altered or is this for real? lOTILnYwFkQ
Hi Mandala:
Interesting video indeed.
I agree with nearly all what's said in the video, except a detail. He said
"I don't think they may be responsible" referring to the World Banksters/Cabal.
It is clear that this thing was planned way ahead of time.

As to the authenticity of the video, I can't say, I am not a video guru. A video specialist can tell if this is a montage or genuine. I hope someone here can shed some light on this aspect.

[onawah]

At 4:27 the narrator says "Not a single American understands the ruse that is afoot. But I do."
Rather objectionable misrepresentation of the facts!
The video within the video is important, if it's real, but the commentary sure leaves something to be desired.
If you are going to create a video like this, it's important to choose your words carefully.


Ran across this interesting video. My question is was it altered or is this for real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOTILnYwFkQ

I posted this on another thread and think it is major. It is so telling that it reminds me of videos of UFOs that are so real one might think they are fake! In any case, looks real to me but if it is fake it is quite impressive.

[gini]

When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.

No, no emotional programed space. Just facts. A governor or state official using the professional data they are given by field experts and then implementing a legal course of action to protect the health and well being of the people they represent. If to you, this sounds like what the nazi's did. You are by definition, an imbecile.

Mod note from Bill:

The best response to this unnecessarily antagonistic and unpleasant post is the post to which it was a reply. :)
When people begin calling others "imbeciles", I realize they are coming from an emotionally programed space, not dealing with critical thinking and respectful discourse. Avalon has been an oasis in a sea of emotional hyperbole. I hope it remains a sanctuary for those us seeking the truth who understand we come from many perspectives. Peace.


Bill, do you think governments putting in place protective measures to the best of their abilities to protect the weak and vulnerable is akin to Nazi behaviour?A genuine thanks for the question, which I do appreciate. :highfive:

I strongly believe the virus is being USED as a justification for Fascism Lite. :)

It's pretty clever, the way all this is being done. For sure, it's being orchestrated by some supranational entity.

Not the WHO — they're not bright, competent or aware enough. The WHO is just someone's PR platform, and not even a very convincing one. (In fact, their comedy of errors has been lamentable.)

My very strong guess is that the source of the avalanche of controls worldwide is the same source as whoever released the virus, or expedited the release of the virus. And I strongly suspect that was a deep black US-based agency.

The confusing (and distracting!) issue for many is that the virus is real, and occasionally dangerous to some — even totally healthy young people, like US navy sailors, for example. Some members of the Avalon community have it, or have had it. It's absolutely no fun, and it's not the flu.

But the measures being taken against it are way over the top, in many cases. It's pretty easy to see many examples. The danger is the thin end of the wedge of frog-in-the-pot creeping authoritarianism (as David Icke calls it, the Totalitarian Tiptoe), Pavlov's-dog-conditioning citizens to gradually accept more and more (a) restrictions on freedom, and (b) surveillance, censorship and other forms of control.

Just like a slow-motion 9/11. No more terrorists blowing up buildings in the US (or anywhere else), but you still have TSA screening, no-fly lists, and you can't take toothpaste in your carry-on luggage because you could [somehow!] blow up the plane with it.

That's unlikely ever to be walked back. And that's global, too, even in the very many countries which have never known a terrorist incident. This is the playbook, and what we're seeing now is another page of it. (Maybe a whole new chapter.)

The NWO isn't quite with us yet, but this is one step closer. For that reason alone, what's happening is very very dangerous.

If I were in the US, I'd be protesting against the lockdowns. For sure. But here in Ecuador where I live, my personal situation is very unusual (for which I feel consciously blessed). I live in a remote area, I'm surrounded by wilderness, and I can walk out my front door and hike for miles (as I did yesterday) and not see a single person.

So almost nothing has changed for me. I have to wear a mask to go to the supermarket in the nearest city, 20 miles away, or they'd not let me through the door. But that's really no biggie.

Much more amusing (and a caricature of some of the insanity) is that I was pulled over by the police last week and told to wear my mask... in my car. Go figure! :bigsmile:

:wizard:Bill thank you for your balanced response on this hyper polarising issue,bringing so much division everywhere ...:flower:

[onawah]

Zuckerberg Just Pissed Off EVERY AMERICAN Who Is Suffering And Wants To Get Back To Work
The Next News Network 1.5M subscribers
4/21/20

(Zuckerberg appeared on ABC's Good Morning America and said that Facebook has decided that protests against government-imposed lockdowns now qualify as “harmful misinformation” that the social media giant will take down. After weeks of supporting government restrictions, Americans have grown restive amid edicts that have closed businesses and resulted in the unemployment of 22 million Americans.)

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[AutumnW]

I strongly believe the virus is being USED as a justification for Fascism Lite.

It's pretty clever, the way all this is being done. For sure, it's being orchestrated by some supranational entity.

Not the WHO — they're not bright, competent or aware enough. The WHO is just someone's PR platform, and not even a very convincing one. (In fact, their comedy of errors has been lamentable.)

My very strong guess is that the source of the avalanche of controls worldwide is the same source as whoever released the virus, or expedited the release of the virus. And I strongly suspect that was a deep black US-based agency. -- Bill Ryan


Yes. My suspicion also. Don't strongly believe it, but out of a range of possibilities, this one sticks out the farthest.

[AutumnW]

Fact is, I'm well stocked an prepared, but I'm headed out today for even more supplies. I anticipate riots due to ignorance. People should be collaborating and sharing resources instead of acting out like little children. What is needed is leadership. Where will it come from? Obviously not from government or big business. EVERYONE is responsible for EVERYONE'S safety and well-being. Even in 'statistically' safe rural areas re-opening businesses and public places is very risky without planning and preperation. At least the seniors here in my little community will have extra food from the masses of stuff I've accumulated, if they need it. I also stocked oxygen and common prescription meds, anticipating that my neighbors would at some point not have access to the pharmacy. -- Helium

Helium,

Thanks for being the voice of reason here! Your post is very appreciated and agree on all points. I am just North of you and agree on all points!:sun:

[AutumnW]

We need to pull the pendulum UP, into a higher level, not swing it back to the opposite direction. I'm not sure how to get there, but whatever path that is, it isn't going to come without pushing back.

I'd like to see the push-back come at a higher level (energetically speaking). Stop fussing over wearing masks and just wear them already. That's putting other people's health above your own at minimal cost to you. That's pulling the pendulum above the current swing, in other words, rising above the situation. Rainsong

Rainsong---Thank you. Deserves an entry in Bartlett's Quotations.

[Tomkoyote]

Totally convinced.

"I strongly believe the virus is being USED as a justification for Fascism Lite."
Absolutely; the same way they used a certain a ghost (Ben Laden) to implement all post 9-11 travel and financial restrictions.
As they are currently using the virus reason/excuse to force people to wear masks, stay away from each other and many other restrictions to come that will become permanent.

"It's pretty clever, the way all this is being done. For sure, it's being orchestrated by some supranational entity."
What has fascinated me is how nearly every gov on the planet danced to exactly the same tune. This proved one undeniable fact - that every health minister is just a bureaucrat, a baboon in suit that gets instructions and directives from an outside entity, the WHO, and executes; ie the minister's job is to execute the orders and not to think.
And this model is applied at nearly every level of a government, Finance, Foreign, Defense, etc...

Hence a world government with the same structure as multinational with a subsidiary in every country.

[AutumnW]

Answering T Smith post, a microbiologist and Yale University PHD Brazillian Epidemiologist called Atila Iamarino gave an interview on Television and said that the world we used to have where we used to go by freely on the streets, go to cinemas, theathers, pubs, shows, football matches wihtout any consequence is over. According to him there is no such a thing as the world we had before because this world does not exist anymore until we get either a medicine or a vaccine that cures or prevent the virus. He said that even if the Government determine that we can go on the streets and go to huge gatherings, he himself will not go to football matches, cinemas, theatres because he does not want to risk to pass on the virus to his loved ones. Those with pulmornary diseases, heart diseases, diabetes, high blood pressure and other diseaseases that constitute a risk group, even if the Government says you can go wherever you want, will not risk their lives either.

He clearly sounds like a speaker hired by Gates to push his vaccine agenda.

We need new media platforms to speak from - the main sites (you tube and facebook) are being controlled more every day.

Utter nonsense. Bill Gates has been dragged into your "name the enemy" conjecture and anybody that takes exception to any part of that spin is automatically an agent. You owe this poster an apology. He likely has a vast network and could easily be remotely acquainted with seven fatalities.

[shaberon]

I think you make a lot of good points here, but I disagree about the agenda being clear. I was thinking about that--you got me thinking, T Smith, but this isn't directed specifically at you.

It does not look clear at all to me. (Disclaimer: I've been reading mostly US and specifically GA news, so this is the viewpoint I'm coming from.) If the agenda is to sow chaos, maybe. But if it's about control, I don't see it.

What I see is that the federal government is filled with the most selfish, power-hungry *psychopaths. The only agenda they're driven by is their own individual agenda, which makes a national or global agenda impossible.

It seems to me there is embroilment of multiple agendas, which work together, to an extent.

The aspect of "control" is more akin to old world, old money, and a conservative Department of Defense that just needs to justify massive industrialization. Old money does not like new money; see for example that the Astors certainly did not like the new-moneyed Morgans during the Titanic era. For the most part, control seeks voluntary surrender based from ignorance.

"Loss of control" is newer, more akin to new money, the State Department, and the neo-con plan to push governments out of the way in most of the developing world. An example here is the Clinton era repeal of Glass-Steagall: a governmental interference put in place to harness the antics which engineered the Great Depression. Ten years after the repeal, there was a crash bubble based on the things it used to prevent, and now ten years later it comes hurling back with added momentum.

The problem with protesting either one is usually falling into the camp of the other, whereas they are both methods of subjugation, fascist in flavor since most of the policy comes from vested interests. The "debate" only wants to present the two choices, but there is no debate if you do not heed either one. This is anarchy, which is not calling for an absence of rules, but does call for the end of a ruling class or oligarchy.

[AutumnW]

Shaberon, Rainsong,

I focus on the one thing that unites them all, states and federal and corporate elites who rely on a permanent war footing....the Defense Department. Thank you for that post, Rainsong and response, Shaberon. You strike me as people who think for yourselves.:thumbsup:

[prc]

In Brasil Coronavirus is killing people of all ages and we have a significant number of young people without any previous health issue dying.

https://www.correiobraziliense.com.br/app/noticia/brasil/2020/04/21/interna-brasil,846865/medico-de-32-anos-morre-de-novo-coronavirus-em-sao-paulo.shtml

But I will not push my view on others like many here on this thread is trying to do with me. This forum is becoming toxic by the day, people without any respect for others. We are not allowed to disagree here??? Do we have just to be a shipple and say Yes for whatever comes up on the threads???

[Bill Ryan]

In Brasil Coronavirus is killing people of all ages and we have a significant number of young people without any previous health issue dying.

https://www.correiobraziliense.com.br/app/noticia/brasil/2020/04/21/interna-brasil,846865/medico-de-32-anos-morre-de-novo-coronavirus-em-sao-paulo.shtml

But I will not push my view on others like many here on this thread is trying to do with me. This forum is becoming toxic by the day, people without any respect for others. We are not allowed to disagree here??? Do we have just to be a shipple and say Yes for whatever comes up on the threads???Just a note in support of what prc reports about Brazil.


In Brasil Coronavirus is killing people of all ages and we have a significant number of young people without any previous health issue dying.I have a good Brazilian friend whose mother and brother are in São Paulo. All I can say is that he has told me exactly the same thing, from his own first-hand sources. He speaks with them every day.

Whether lockdowns in Brazil are wise or unwise is a different question, bearing in mind all the different and complex factors (social, economic, religious, political, and global).

I'm not qualified to have an opinion (and Brazilians themselves are very divided.) But the facts on the ground seem to be just as prc states.

[AutumnW]

Totally convinced.

"I strongly believe the virus is being USED as a justification for Fascism Lite."
Absolutely; the same way they used a certain a ghost (Ben Laden) to implement all post 9-11 travel and financial restrictions.
As they are currently using the virus reason/excuse to force people to wear masks, stay away from each other and many other restrictions to come that will become permanent.

"It's pretty clever, the way all this is being done. For sure, it's being orchestrated by some supranational entity."
What has fascinated me is how nearly every gov on the planet danced to exactly the same tune. This proved one undeniable fact - that every health minister is just a bureaucrat, a baboon in suit that gets instructions and directives from an outside entity, the WHO, and executes; ie the minister's job is to execute the orders and not to think.
And this model is applied at nearly every level of a government, Finance, Foreign, Defense, etc...

Hence a world government with the same structure as multinational with a subsidiary in every country.

The baboons is suits, as you refer to them, are dealing with a complicated situation. First, they have to deal with the immediate threat of contagion. Secondly they have to deal with the economic threat of contagion. This is overwhelming. To go further than that and try to delineate the why's and wherefore's when the origin of the virus is easily cloaked in plausible deniability would be impossible--at a governmental level.

All that aside, do you honestly think, governments would take a stand on an issue that makes them a foe of the status quo? That status quo has hard power, soft power and will squish them like bugs.

[ExomatrixTV]

Why lockdowns are the wrong policy - Swedish expert Prof. Johan Giesecke:
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That was one of the more extraordinary interviews we have done here at UnHerd. Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness why he thinks: - UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based - The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only - This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a “by-product” - The initial UK response, before the “180 degree U-turn”, was better - The Imperial College paper was “not very good” and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact - The paper was very much too pessimistic - Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway - The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown - The results will eventually be similar for all countries - Covid-19 is a “mild disease” and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people. - The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1% - At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available.

[Hermoor]

http://www.france24.com/en/20200421-violence-flares-in-tense-paris-suburbs-as-heavy-handed-lockdown-stirs-explosive-cocktail

It's now four consecutive nights of civil unrest in Paris' northern suburbs.

[waves]

Gemma O'Doherty & John Waters At The High Court Dublin
CITIZENS ARMY UNITE!
Apr 22, 2020


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6VPcVXeVQc



https://i.postimg.cc/Gp2p2QbT/avalon-signature.jpg

[ExomatrixTV]

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[T Smith]

Regardless how many people are getting sick or dying and from what, regardless of what may be or may not be, our leaders and technocrats are lying about it, covering up the truth, hyping it, inflating the number of cases and deaths, peddling fear, suppressing and banning cures and solutions, and employing propaganda (and even encouraging the spread of pandemic), whether real or promulgated, so to enact draconian measures to corral the people to advance an agenda, among other things we know not what (Of all the ambivalence above, of all we know or don't know about SARS CoV-2 and COVID-19, these observations in this one bullet point--if nothing more--we are 100% sure of)


Regardless what's going on with SARS CoV-2, be it a bioweapon, a hoax, or genuine pandemic that risks the collapse of our health care resources, the agenda driving the narrative is clearest damn thing about this entire situation.



I think you make a lot of good points here, but I disagree about the agenda being clear. I was thinking about that--you got me thinking, T Smith, but this isn't directed specifically at you.

It does not look clear at all to me. (Disclaimer: I've been reading mostly US and specifically GA news, so this is the viewpoint I'm coming from.) If the agenda is to sow chaos, maybe. But if it's about control, I don't see it.



Hi Rainsong,

Thank you for your well thought out post. I don't want to derail waves' thread with a tangential reply, just a quick response to clarify.

You are absolutely right... as it stands now we are amid "chaos" in the US where nothing seems certain; the Michigan governor is applying for Biden's 2020 VP pick, hence her authoritarian actions of "strong leadership" and "action", which she has judged to be the surest way to gain political capital. This is her chance to "shine". The NY governor is applying for the DNC draft at the convention for his party's nomination for President once the Ministry of Truth decides the time is right to inform its subjects, the programmed, that Biden is medically unable to accept the nomination. Crisis is the perfect opportunity to beef up the resume. Your Governor heads a Red state and is making decisions in a partisan way, per the will of the people. My guess is he will have to deal with backlash and criticism and make new decisions in the coming weeks once a "second wave" hits your state, whether real or promulgated. And so on. In short, in the US 50 dictators are running around like chickens without heads...

I do agree the specific agenda is yet unclear. I was commenting in a more abstract way, that is, what does seem clear is we are for sure in the "reaction" stage of the problem/reaction/solution cycle--the Hegelian dialectic--which will surely behoove a solution, and which is being fashioned as we speak, depending on our collective reactions .

We can see this by the trial balloons being floated, i.e. "new normal", "mandatory vaccinations", "there is no return to a pre-COVID-19 world", etc.

Things are about to get a whole lot worse before they get better, and the specific agenda, whatever it is, will soon reify. IMHO, we are still in the opening act of the "reaction" stage. Civil unrest is just beginning. We have yet to see the National Guard or Martial Law strictly (or violently) enforced; but my guess is both are on the horizon.

Whatever our upcoming reactions warrant for solutions, the solutions will surely entail control.

Carry on...

[ExomatrixTV]

THIS IS JUST ROUND 1 AND THEY JUST TOLD US WHEN ROUND 2 IS COMING:
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[happyuk]

Regardless how many people are getting sick or dying and from what, regardless of what may be or may not be, our leaders and technocrats are lying about it, covering up the truth, hyping it, inflating the number of cases and deaths, peddling fear, suppressing and banning cures and solutions, and employing propaganda (and even encouraging the spread of pandemic), whether real or promulgated, so to enact draconian measures to corral the people to advance an agenda, among other things we know not what (Of all the ambivalence above, of all we know or don't know about SARS CoV-2 and COVID-19, these observations in this one bullet point--if nothing more--we are 100% sure of)


Regardless what's going on with SARS CoV-2, be it a bioweapon, a hoax, or genuine pandemic that risks the collapse of our health care resources, the agenda driving the narrative is clearest damn thing about this entire situation.



I think you make a lot of good points here, but I disagree about the agenda being clear. I was thinking about that--you got me thinking, T Smith, but this isn't directed specifically at you.

It does not look clear at all to me. (Disclaimer: I've been reading mostly US and specifically GA news, so this is the viewpoint I'm coming from.) If the agenda is to sow chaos, maybe. But if it's about control, I don't see it.



Hi Rainsong,

Thank you for your well thought out post. I don't want to derail waves' thread with a tangential reply, just a quick response to clarify.

You are absolutely right... as it stands now we are amid "chaos" in the US where nothing seems certain; the Michigan governor is applying for Biden's 2020 VP pick, hence her authoritarian actions of "strong leadership" and "action", which she has judged to be the surest way to gain political capital. This is her chance to "shine". The NY governor is applying for the DNC draft at the convention for his party's nomination for President once the Ministry of Truth decides the time is right to inform its subjects, the programmed, that Biden is medically unable to accept the nomination. Crisis is the perfect opportunity to beef up the resume. Your Governor heads a Red state and is making decisions in a partisan way, per the will of the people. My guess is he will have to deal with backlash and criticism and make new decisions in the coming weeks once a "second wave" hits your state, whether real or promulgated. And so on. In short, in the US 50 dictators are running around like chickens without heads...

I do agree the specific agenda is yet unclear. I was commenting in a more abstract way, that is, what does seem clear is we are for sure in the "reaction" stage of the problem/reaction/solution cycle--the Hegelian dialectic--which will surely behoove a solution, and which is being fashioned as we speak, depending on our collective reactions .

We can see this by the trial balloons being floated, i.e. "new normal", "mandatory vaccinations", "there is no return to a pre-COVID-19 world", etc.

Things are about to get a whole lot worse before they get better, and the specific agenda, whatever it is, will soon reify. IMHO, we are still in the opening act of the "reaction" stage. Civil unrest is just beginning. We have yet to see the National Guard or Martial Law strictly (or violently) enforced; but my guess is both are on the horizon.

Whatever our upcoming reactions warrant for solutions, the solutions will surely entail control.

Carry on...

I think the UK/US/French governments and other authorities are under the impression that they are the ones who will decide when the lockdown is over. My money's on the public being the ones who will decide. I've a feeling it's starting to happen - the slow, gradual increase of background traffic hum is just one of a number of perceptible signals. A barely noticeable trickle but it will soon pick up.

The police might be able to manage it at the moment, issuing the odd fine here and there, but once that trickle turns into a gusher it will be totally unmanageable by them. They wouldn't be able to cope with the paperwork and the normal everyday policing issues will return. At the best of times the police struggle to deal with routine crime issues so issuing fines for not adhering to the lockdown is going to be
low on their list of priorities. It should also be remembered that the police police by public consent, in the UK at least. If there is a noticeable lockdown, it is because the public generally agree that it's a good thing and consent to it. If the public ignores the lockdown then they will have shown that they have withdrawn that consent with respect to that particular issue.

The supermarkets currently have a one in, one out policy but that will only last as longs as the public permits. And as long as shareholders permit their profits taking a hammering. No security guard is going to be able to prevent dozens of people wandering into the store as they feel like it, ignoring social distancing. How would they physically stop it? Once the public takes matters into its own hands things will quickly snowball and that would mean the government would have to re-evaluate and manage the situation in a different way.

It's a numbers game and once the number of people ignoring/forgetting the lockdown reaches a critical point the lockdown has failed. It is slowly starting to die over here. People have had enough, and are ready to slowly start opening things back up and many people want to go back to work.

[ExomatrixTV]

Brazil declares free and breaks again quarantine
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[Hermoor]

A small and spirited protest in Toronto.

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I'm also hearing Piers Corbyn led a small one in Glastonbury too.

[justntime2learn]

I felt the Dena Churchill video was spot on and would highly recommend it.


Brazil declares free and breaks again quarantine
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[ExomatrixTV]

Why does Yahoo put this link (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/facebook-remove-content-organizing-protests-150919470.html) in the "entertainment" section? Anyone?

[ExomatrixTV]

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[ExomatrixTV]

Michigan Patriots UNITE! Look What Surprise Protesters Brought to Gov. Whitmer’s House!
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[ExomatrixTV]

🌐 ‼️ Exposing The "Global Governance" #PlanDemic ...
If Sweden succeeds (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/25/sweden-succeeds-lockdownswill-have-nothing/), lockdowns will all have been for nothing

[onawah]

Community Anger Shuts Down Connecticut City's Plan To Use Drones for Coronavirus Monitoring
Westport won’t be using tech to monitor people’s body temperatures or whether they’re properly social distancing.
SCOTT SHACKFORD | 4.24.2020
https://reason.com/2020/04/24/community-anger-shuts-down-connecticut-citys-plan-to-use-drones-for-coronavirus-monitoring/

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"It took all of two days for a Connecticut city's plan to use drone tech to snoop on citizen behavior to make sure they're complying with coronavirus rules for an angry public to shut it down.

On Tuesday, the Westport Police Department announced it had launched a pilot project in coordination with Canadian company Draganfly to send drones hovering around the city to make sure people in public spaces were maintaining six feet of social distance.

But these drones were much more intrusive than simply looking for crowds. Draganfly's drone-mounted biometric monitoring tools are even more sinister, dystopian, and potentially abusive. The drone is able to quickly measure whether people are six feet apart from each other, and Draganfly claims it can also measure heart rate, body temperature, and other vital signs, which suggests that a drone might be able to spot potential infections from above.

Here's how Westport Police Chief Foti Koskinas promoted this "Flatten the Curve Pilot Program" in a Facebook post from Tuesday:

"Westport and its first responder network is one of the most progressive public safety advocates in the nation. They are real pioneers when it comes to adopting and integrating new technology to protect its community. This pandemic has opened up a new frontier and urgent need for the use of drones. Draganfly is the first in the U.S. to implement this state-of-the-art technology to capture and analyze data in a way that has been peer reviewed and clinically researched to save lives."

The community was not thrilled. Facebook comments under the post blasted Westport for violating the privacy of citizens. The police department took a drone out for a test run intended to show the public that it was useful. Instead, it looked creepy. They brought the drone to a Trader Joe's where customers were waiting in line to be allowed into the store to go shopping. They were socially distancing, but they weren't always perfectly six feet apart, and the drone flagged people who were waiting just slightly too close to others or who passed by other people at a distance closer than six feet.

And that was pretty much all it showed—very brief moments of people being maybe a few inches too close to each other. This was not exactly pioneering new ways of keeping people safe. But it did have the potential to violate people's privacy since its biometric analysis supposedly detects symptoms associated with COVID-19, but also any other ailment that increases a person's temperature.

Connecticut activist Michael Picard—who's been written about previously at Reason—raised the alarm about these drones. "Technology is not the be-all and end-all," he tells Reason. "How can a drone sense when someone has a fever when the difference between a normal temperature and a fever is a tenth of a degree, and how will it know the difference between coronavirus and springtime allergies? This will just subject people to pointless harassment. This is just a stepping stone. Before you know it, police departments will be weaponizing drones."

On Thursday, Westport announced it would not participate in this pilot program after all. "In our good faith effort to get ahead of the virus and potential need to manage and safely monitor crowds and social distancing in this environment, our announcement was perhaps misinterpreted, not well-received, and posed many additional questions," First Selectman Jim Marpe said. "We heard and respect your concerns, and are therefore stepping back and re-considering the full impact of the technology and its use in law enforcement protocol."

In response to the city's decision, Picard declared "a victory for the people and civil liberties, especially in a time of overreach….Using drones to surveil people will only breed mistrust, and it will cause people to be unnecessarily harassed."The entire proposal seemed like a policing tech project looking for an excuse to exist. Westport is a town of fewer than 30,000 people, and it's absurd to think that the police would need a drone to know when large groups of people are organizing, where they're organizing, and whether they're observing social distancing guidelines. Monitoring people's biometric information, meanwhile, is not just unnecessary but invasive and likely to result in police actions that cause more harm than good."

[palehorse]

I would like to disagree with the views from this thread that claims that coronavirus is a HOAX or it is like a FLU because I have already counted 7 people from my personal contact that have died from Covid-19 and this number is only rising here. I cannot recall in previous years to have lost 7 people from my network from Influenza, H1N1 or FLU. So FOLKS, This is not an ordinary FLU and no one here on this thread is able to determine if you contract coronavirus you will be assymptomatic, you will need Hospital or even if you will die in a few days.

Coronavirus is not spreaded by 5G MASTS like DAVID ICKE claimed as well because in Brazil There is no single 5G MAST installed since the Government has not auctioned yet the frequencies to be used by 5G Technology here.

So go on the streets at your own risk and due to your own Ignorance.

Whether coronavirus was launched to destroy the economy is open for debate and will be only clear in the post world after the lockdown and the virus pandemic is over. , but you can always recover the economy, but you cannot rise from the dead a person that died from Coronavirus. So in my opinion Health is more important than economy.

In Brazil the government measures to deal with coronavirus pandemic are: Monthly payment for 3 months for self- employed people that lost income. Help to micro, small and medium business total amount of help around R$400 billion reais. Central Bank will buy enterprise bonds. Help to rescue Medium Banks to avoid bankrupcy and financial system risk.


I do believe people are dying of it, my wife's sister said someone close to her died a month ago and in the certificate of death said death of covid-19 which is a proof for us that almost everybody dying nowadays is going into statistics, this woman died of cancer!!! My wife's sister was very close to her, nothing much to say. If I can proof that I will, already asked for wife's sister for the death certificate and the copy of bills for cancer treatment, hope they can arrange it for me and I will spread it everywhere. I do not care.

It is ALL about our privacy, security and freedom of speech, most people seeing to be digging not deep enough or even in the wrong place.

Step 1 - Sign Up for the App that will be available very soon in all countries (some countries already have it) around the world, then they can track you full time.
Step 2 - When the time come, they will force vaccination on you and your family, after all they know where you are since you download that App.

They are trying to put all mankind in one basket, but so many people has no access to technologies or just refused to have a smartphone for obviously reasons. The most they will get if those that suffice the conditions will be around 50-60% of the entire population in the world. To get each and everyone into the global program there will be another methods to track this folks down, like annual property taxes, travelling, buy/sell property, renewing expired documents (like drive license), buying car/motorcycle/boat and so forth and so on, there is countless ways to track people down and force then to be included in the new order and it is NOT a conspiracy, go figure.

I will not post any reference for what I said (except for the person that passed away by CANCER and not CORONA) because the information is everywhere, just search it.

p.s. The Virus is real and it may kill those ones with a weak immune system. The Virus was released as an excuse for the deployment of the next phase of control. For more information on that please read the document called "Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development Rockefeller Foundation 2010", it is available in Avalon Library.

Hope you all have a good day and I do not mean to offend anyone here.
Peace.

[ExomatrixTV]

Drums & chants | Pro-Bolsonaro rally hits Brazil's capital
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[ExomatrixTV]

Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: “I’m not paying this (https://100percentfedup.com/salon-owner-rips-up-citation-and-defies-order-to-remain-closed-im-not-paying-this/)”

[ExomatrixTV]

Must See Video:
aAPPw-ri4lc (https://youtu.be/aAPPw-ri4lc)

[palehorse]

I can't understand why the drama about toilet paper???

I have been living and working in Asian countries for almost 15 years now and I have to say that, I am sorry if it hurts someone but the Asians are a way more prepared for any extreme situation than the westerns are (I am talking about general public). Toilet paper is just one example, in Asia we wash (include myself and I am not an Asian person), no paper at all! Just the bum gun!

People in western countries has to wake up, there is no more time to f*** around.. can't believe I still seeing reports of toilet paper drama!

[T Smith]

DOJ pushing back (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/barr-directs-prosecutors-look-state-local-stay-home-orders-go-n1193711) against draconian state and local violation of civil liberties...

[onawah]

Petition: No mandatory vaccines for U. S. Citizens, No mandatory microchipping, No mass surveillance, under any circumstances
Created by J.Z. on April 14, 2020
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/no-mandatory-vaccines-u-s-citizens-no-mandatory-microchipping-no-mass-surveillance-under-any-circumstances

[greybeard]

Petition: No mandatory vaccines for U. S. Citizens, No mandatory microchipping, No mass surveillance, under any circumstances
Created by J.Z. on April 14, 2020
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/no-mandatory-vaccines-u-s-citizens-no-mandatory-microchipping-no-mass-surveillance-under-any-circumstances

Thanks onawah
We need similar in UK
Any volunteers? I dont know how
Chris

[Philippe]

[QUOTE=prc;1352283]

Step 1 - Sign Up for the App that will be available very soon in all countries (some countries already have it) around the world, then they can track you full time.
Step 2 - When the time come, they will force vaccination on you and your family, after all they know where you are since you download that App.


An audio message is circulating on Whatsapp in France warning NOT to download this coming Covid19 app. It would mean the end of all privacy and extend vast powers to medical authorities to remove from households if necessary by force suspected carriers of the virus, even the asymptomatic persons . The promotor of this app is said to be the Italian virologist Roberto Burioni who works for the WHO, but I could not find any article confirming that.

[lloyds]

In Brasil Coronavirus is killing people of all ages and we have a significant number of young people without any previous health issue dying.

https://www.correiobraziliense.com.br/app/noticia/brasil/2020/04/21/interna-brasil,846865/medico-de-32-anos-morre-de-novo-coronavirus-em-sao-paulo.shtml

But I will not push my view on others like many here on this thread is trying to do with me. This forum is becoming toxic by the day, people without any respect for others. We are not allowed to disagree here??? Do we have just to be a shipple and say Yes for whatever comes up on the threads???Just a note in support of what prc reports about Brazil.


In Brasil Coronavirus is killing people of all ages and we have a significant number of young people without any previous health issue dying.I have a good Brazilian friend whose mother and brother are in São Paulo. All I can say is that he has told me exactly the same thing, from his own first-hand sources. He speaks with them every day.

Whether lockdowns in Brazil are wise or unwise is a different question, bearing in mind all the different and complex factors (social, economic, religious, political, and global).

I'm not qualified to have an opinion (and Brazilians themselves are very divided.) But the facts on the ground seem to be just as prc states.

Here in Australia we locked down for a few weeks and the restrictions are now lifting because we have it under control. No new cases are being reported because we worked collectively and put the right messures in place. What is more important than life? We implemented measures to protect our most vonerable, our community as a whole, and our economy to the best of our ability using facts from medical professionals

I feel for those that will inevitably loose, or have lost loved ones unnecessarily because of the uncontrolled spread of this virus. Especially in places where crowds of uneducated morons taking to the streets on advice from internet "experts".

I feel for the medical staff that are put in even more danger than normal, when the infection rates sky rocket and they do not have the equipment or facilities to safely go about their work in carinv for the ill.

It's a sad time to be a human.

[ExomatrixTV]

Protest (https://nltimes.nl/2020/04/28/protest-lockdown-5g-vaccinations-forms-parliament) against lockdown, #5G and vaccinations forms at Parliament.

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[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I understand some do not share the views of people protesting the lock down orders. I would suggest that you avoid this thread since it is about pushing back and non-compiance, so the posts are likely to reflect a specific viewpoint. There are other threads where a different discussion is taking place. Again, calling people "uneducated morons" is a bit inflammatory given the stated nature of the thread.

[Delight]

"Never have politicians had so much power."

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[onawah]

CENSORED DOC DOUBLES DOWN
The HighWire with Del Bigtree
5/1/20
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"Dr. Daniel Erickson, owner of seven CA urgent care facilities, was thrown into the spotlight after his press conference on the COVID 19 stirred up enough controversy to get censored by YouTube. Here’s Del’s follow-up interview and this doc’s message is clear: he is not backing down."

[onawah]

TV DOCS OWNED BY PHARMA?
The HighWire with Del Bigtree
119K subscribers
5/1/20

"Our most trusted TV doctors spoke out on the idea that the lockdown will cost us more than the virus, but in an unprecedented event, they all did a 180 and apologized. Who made them apologize? The HighWire takes a look."
#PharmaTVDocs
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[ExomatrixTV]

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[ExomatrixTV]

Michigan Wants Lockdowns To End

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[ExomatrixTV]

THOUSANDS Protest In California City Demanding The Lockdown END, Democrat Shuts ENTIRE City:
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[Hermoor]

I had a good chuckle last night viewing the Tanzanian president John Magafuli telling us that pawpaw fruits and goats had tested positive for the corona liarus.

Max Igan has been good to listen to throughout the scamdemic. This update from him is fairly general. But the solid gold starts at around 42:27. An Italian politician (Vittorio Sgarbi) in their parliament or something. Going absolutely off his head bananas at all the lies and dictatorial loss of freedoms. And telling the Italian parliament that they basically couldn't find their own backsides with a map and a compass.

This is beautiful. Take it away Vittorio....

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[AutumnW]

Protest (https://nltimes.nl/2020/04/28/protest-lockdown-5g-vaccinations-forms-parliament) against lockdown, #5G and vaccinations forms at Parliament.

43474

That's what you want. Yessir. You want protests against non-ionizing radiation during a true existential health crisis. These people are F***wits

[wegge]

High ranking people from the Catholic Church let a ****in truth bomb drop, holy **** that’s the craziest turn in this whole scenario so far in my opinion.

http://https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/ (https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/)

(Could someone insert the text and picture here? And how does this actually work?)

[Hermoor]

ENGLISH
ITALIANO
FRANÇAISDEUTSCHESPAÑOLPORTUGUÊSPOLSKIPRESSCOMMENTSCONTACT
APPEAL
MAY 7, 2020

APPEAL FOR THE CHURCH AND THE WORLD
to Catholics and all people of good will

Sign the appeal
Veritas liberabit vos.
Jn 8:32

In this time of great crisis, we Pastors of the Catholic Church, by virtue of our mandate, consider it our sacred duty to make an Appeal to our Brothers in the Episcopate, to the Clergy, to Religious, to the holy People of God and to all men and women of good will. This Appeal has also been undersigned by intellectuals, doctors, lawyers, journalists and professionals who agree with its content, and may be undersigned by those who wish to make it their own.

The facts have shown that, under the pretext of the Covid-19 epidemic, the inalienable rights of citizens have in many cases been violated and their fundamental freedoms, including the exercise of freedom of worship, expression and movement, have been disproportionately and unjustifiably restricted. Public health must not, and cannot, become an alibi for infringing on the rights of millions of people around the world, let alone for depriving the civil authority of its duty to act wisely for the common good. This is particularly true as growing doubts emerge from several quarters about the actual contagiousness, danger and resistance of the virus. Many authoritative voices in the world of science and medicine confirm that the media’s alarmism about Covid-19 appears to be absolutely unjustified.

We have reason to believe, on the basis of official data on the incidence of the epidemic as related to the number of deaths, that there are powers interested in creating panic among the world’s population with the sole aim of permanently imposing unacceptable forms of restriction on freedoms, of controlling people and of tracking their movements. The imposition of these illiberal measures is a disturbing prelude to the realization of a world government beyond all control.

We also believe that in some situations the containment measures that were adopted, including the closure of shops and businesses, have precipitated a crisis that has brought down entire sectors of the economy. This encourages interference by foreign powers and has serious social and political repercussions. Those with governmental responsibility must stop these forms of social engineering, by taking measures to protect their citizens whom they represent, and in whose interests they have a serious obligation to act. Likewise, let them help the family, the cell of society, by not unreasonably penalizing the weak and elderly, forcing them into a painful separation from their loved ones. The criminalization of personal and social relationships must likewise be judged as an unacceptable part of the plan of those who advocate isolating individuals in order to better manipulate and control them.

We ask the scientific community to be vigilant, so that cures for Covid-19 are offered in honesty for the common good. Every effort must be made to ensure that shady business interests do not influence the choices made by government leaders and international bodies. It is unreasonable to penalize those remedies that have proved to be effective, and are often inexpensive, just because one wishes to give priority to treatments or vaccines that are not as good, but which guarantee pharmaceutical companies far greater profits, and exacerbate public health expenditures. Let us also remember, as Pastors, that for Catholics it is morally unacceptable to develop or use vaccines derived from material from aborted fetuses.

We also ask government leaders to ensure that forms of control over people, whether through tracking systems or any other form of location-finding, are rigorously avoided. The fight against Covid-19, however serious, must not be the pretext for supporting the hidden intentions of supranational bodies that have very strong commercial and political interests in this plan. In particular, citizens must be given the opportunity to refuse these restrictions on personal freedom, without any penalty whatsoever being imposed on those who do not wish to use vaccines, contact tracking or any other similar tool. Let us also consider the blatant contradiction of those who pursue policies of drastic population control and at the same time present themselves as the savior of humanity, without any political or social legitimacy. Finally, the political responsibility of those who represent the people can in no way be left to “experts” who can indeed claim a kind of immunity from prosecution, which is disturbing to say the least.

We strongly urge those in the media to commit themselves to providing accurate information and not penalizing dissent by resorting to forms of censorship, as is happening widely on social media, in the press and on television. Providing accurate information requires that room be given to voices that are not aligned with a single way of thinking. This allows citizens to consciously assess the facts, without being heavily influenced by partisan interventions. A democratic and honest debate is the best antidote to the risk of imposing subtle forms of dictatorship, presumably worse than those our society has seen rise and fall in the recent past.

Finally, as Pastors responsible for the flock of Christ, let us remember that the Church firmly asserts her autonomy to govern, worship, and teach. This autonomy and freedom are an innate right that Our Lord Jesus Christ has given her for the pursuit of her proper ends. For this reason, as Pastors we firmly assert the right to decide autonomously on the celebration of Mass and the Sacraments, just as we claim absolute autonomy in matters falling within our immediate jurisdiction, such as liturgical norms and ways of administering Communion and the Sacraments. The State has no right to interfere, for any reason whatsoever, in the sovereignty of the Church. Ecclesiastical authorities have never refused to collaborate with the State, but such collaboration does not authorize civil authorities to impose any sort of ban or restriction on public worship or the exercise of priestly ministry. The rights of God and of the faithful are the supreme law of the Church, which she neither intends to, nor can, abdicate. We ask that restrictions on the celebration of public ceremonies be removed.

We should like to invite all people of good will not to shirk their duty to cooperate for the common good, each according to his or her own state and possibilities and in a spirit of fraternal charity. The Church desires such cooperation, but this cannot disregard either a respect for natural law or a guarantee of individual freedoms. The civil duties to which citizens are bound imply the State’s recognition of their rights.

We are all called to assess the current situation in a way consistent with the teaching of the Gospel. This means taking a stand: either with Christ or against Christ. Let us not be intimidated or frightened by those who would have us believe that we are a minority: Good is much more widespread and powerful than the world would have us believe. We are fighting against an invisible enemy that seeks to divide citizens, to separate children from their parents, grandchildren from their grandparents, the faithful from their pastors, students from teachers, and customers from vendors. Let us not allow centuries of Christian civilization to be erased under the pretext of a virus, and an odious technological tyranny to be established, in which nameless and faceless people can decide the fate of the world by confining us to a virtual reality. If this is the plan to which the powers of this earth intend to make us yield, know that Jesus Christ, King and Lord of History, has promised that “the gates of Hell shall not prevail” (Mt 16:18).

Let us entrust government leaders and all those who rule over the fate of nations to Almighty God, that He may enlighten and guide them in this time of great crisis. May they remember that, just as the Lord will judge us Pastors for the flock which he has entrusted to us, so will He also judge government leaders for the peoples whom they have the duty to defend and govern.

With faith, let us beseech the Lord to protect the Church and the world. May the Blessed Virgin, Help of Christians, crush the head of the ancient Serpent and defeat the plans of the children of darkness.

8 May 2020
Our Lady of the Rosary of Pompeii

Sign the appeal
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VERITAS LIBERABIT VOS © 2020

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The images didn't seem to want to play ball, but the text is pretty much all there.

[onawah]

WHERE is the text? Please provide a link. Thanks.


[/COLOR]The images didn't seem to want to play ball, but the text is pretty much all there.

[uzn]

High ranking people from the Catholic Church let a ****in truth bomb drop, holy **** that’s the craziest turn in this whole scenario so far in my opinion.


http://https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/ (https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/)

(Could someone insert the text and picture here? And how does this actually work?)

http://veritasliberabitvos.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/michael2.jpg


APPEAL
MAY 7, 2020

http://veritasliberabitvos.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/immacolata.jpg


APPEAL FOR THE CHURCH AND THE WORLD
to Catholics and all people of good will

Veritas liberabit vos.
Jn 8:32

In this time of great crisis, we Pastors of the Catholic Church, by virtue of our mandate, consider it our sacred duty to make an Appeal to our Brothers in the Episcopate, to the Clergy, to Religious, to the holy People of God and to all men and women of good will. This Appeal has also been undersigned by intellectuals, doctors, lawyers, journalists and professionals who agree with its content, and may be undersigned by those who wish to make it their own.

The facts have shown that, under the pretext of the Covid-19 epidemic, the inalienable rights of citizens have in many cases been violated and their fundamental freedoms, including the exercise of freedom of worship, expression and movement, have been disproportionately and unjustifiably restricted. Public health must not, and cannot, become an alibi for infringing on the rights of millions of people around the world, let alone for depriving the civil authority of its duty to act wisely for the common good. This is particularly true as growing doubts emerge from several quarters about the actual contagiousness, danger and resistance of the virus. Many authoritative voices in the world of science and medicine confirm that the media’s alarmism about Covid-19 appears to be absolutely unjustified.

We have reason to believe, on the basis of official data on the incidence of the epidemic as related to the number of deaths, that there are powers interested in creating panic among the world’s population with the sole aim of permanently imposing unacceptable forms of restriction on freedoms, of controlling people and of tracking their movements. The imposition of these illiberal measures is a disturbing prelude to the realization of a world government beyond all control.

We also believe that in some situations the containment measures that were adopted, including the closure of shops and businesses, have precipitated a crisis that has brought down entire sectors of the economy. This encourages interference by foreign powers and has serious social and political repercussions. Those with governmental responsibility must stop these forms of social engineering, by taking measures to protect their citizens whom they represent, and in whose interests they have a serious obligation to act. Likewise, let them help the family, the cell of society, by not unreasonably penalizing the weak and elderly, forcing them into a painful separation from their loved ones. The criminalization of personal and social relationships must likewise be judged as an unacceptable part of the plan of those who advocate isolating individuals in order to better manipulate and control them.

We ask the scientific community to be vigilant, so that cures for Covid-19 are offered in honesty for the common good. Every effort must be made to ensure that shady business interests do not influence the choices made by government leaders and international bodies. It is unreasonable to penalize those remedies that have proved to be effective, and are often inexpensive, just because one wishes to give priority to treatments or vaccines that are not as good, but which guarantee pharmaceutical companies far greater profits, and exacerbate public health expenditures. Let us also remember, as Pastors, that for Catholics it is morally unacceptable to develop or use vaccines derived from material from aborted fetuses.

We also ask government leaders to ensure that forms of control over people, whether through tracking systems or any other form of location-finding, are rigorously avoided. The fight against Covid-19, however serious, must not be the pretext for supporting the hidden intentions of supranational bodies that have very strong commercial and political interests in this plan. In particular, citizens must be given the opportunity to refuse these restrictions on personal freedom, without any penalty whatsoever being imposed on those who do not wish to use vaccines, contact tracking or any other similar tool. Let us also consider the blatant contradiction of those who pursue policies of drastic population control and at the same time present themselves as the savior of humanity, without any political or social legitimacy. Finally, the political responsibility of those who represent the people can in no way be left to “experts” who can indeed claim a kind of immunity from prosecution, which is disturbing to say the least.

We strongly urge those in the media to commit themselves to providing accurate information and not penalizing dissent by resorting to forms of censorship, as is happening widely on social media, in the press and on television. Providing accurate information requires that room be given to voices that are not aligned with a single way of thinking. This allows citizens to consciously assess the facts, without being heavily influenced by partisan interventions. A democratic and honest debate is the best antidote to the risk of imposing subtle forms of dictatorship, presumably worse than those our society has seen rise and fall in the recent past.

Finally, as Pastors responsible for the flock of Christ, let us remember that the Church firmly asserts her autonomy to govern, worship, and teach. This autonomy and freedom are an innate right that Our Lord Jesus Christ has given her for the pursuit of her proper ends. For this reason, as Pastors we firmly assert the right to decide autonomously on the celebration of Mass and the Sacraments, just as we claim absolute autonomy in matters falling within our immediate jurisdiction, such as liturgical norms and ways of administering Communion and the Sacraments. The State has no right to interfere, for any reason whatsoever, in the sovereignty of the Church. Ecclesiastical authorities have never refused to collaborate with the State, but such collaboration does not authorize civil authorities to impose any sort of ban or restriction on public worship or the exercise of priestly ministry. The rights of God and of the faithful are the supreme law of the Church, which she neither intends to, nor can, abdicate. We ask that restrictions on the celebration of public ceremonies be removed.

We should like to invite all people of good will not to shirk their duty to cooperate for the common good, each according to his or her own state and possibilities and in a spirit of fraternal charity. The Church desires such cooperation, but this cannot disregard either a respect for natural law or a guarantee of individual freedoms. The civil duties to which citizens are bound imply the State’s recognition of their rights.

We are all called to assess the current situation in a way consistent with the teaching of the Gospel. This means taking a stand: either with Christ or against Christ. Let us not be intimidated or frightened by those who would have us believe that we are a minority: Good is much more widespread and powerful than the world would have us believe. We are fighting against an invisible enemy that seeks to divide citizens, to separate children from their parents, grandchildren from their grandparents, the faithful from their pastors, students from teachers, and customers from vendors. Let us not allow centuries of Christian civilization to be erased under the pretext of a virus, and an odious technological tyranny to be established, in which nameless and faceless people can decide the fate of the world by confining us to a virtual reality. If this is the plan to which the powers of this earth intend to make us yield, know that Jesus Christ, King and Lord of History, has promised that “the gates of Hell shall not prevail” (Mt 16:18).

Let us entrust government leaders and all those who rule over the fate of nations to Almighty God, that He may enlighten and guide them in this time of great crisis. May they remember that, just as the Lord will judge us Pastors for the flock which he has entrusted to us, so will He also judge government leaders for the peoples whom they have the duty to defend and govern.

With faith, let us beseech the Lord to protect the Church and the world. May the Blessed Virgin, Help of Christians, crush the head of the ancient Serpent and defeat the plans of the children of darkness.

8 May 2020
Our Lady of the Rosary of Pompeii

Sign the appeal

cheers uzn

[onawah]

Never mind. Found the link just above: https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/

WHERE is the text? Please provide a link. Thanks.


[/COLOR]The images didn't seem to want to play ball, but the text is pretty much all there.

[greybeard]

Never mind. Found the link just above: https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/

WHERE is the text? Please provide a link. Thanks.


[/COLOR]The images didn't seem to want to play ball, but the text is pretty much all there.

Assuming this is genuine its a massive step forward.
I have read and signed it.
While I am not of any church I am well aware of the power of this appeal and the effect it will have on many, perhaps millions, who I hope will sign it.
There is light at the end of the tunnel-- not just from this appeal but from other sources --iethe number of views the various videos are getting before being taken down.

Chris

[greybeard]

High ranking people from the Catholic Church let a ****in truth bomb drop, holy **** that’s the craziest turn in this whole scenario so far in my opinion.

http://https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/ (https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/)

(Could someone insert the text and picture here? And how does this actually work?)

wegge this is amazing --where did you find it?
Chris

[Hermoor]

It's very well written. The mind behind the pen has a very good idea of what's going on.

[greybeard]

It's very well written. The mind behind the pen has a very good idea of what's going on.

Yes indeed.
It specifically mentions the use of material from aborted fetus .

The PTB made a big mistake in banning people from churches -- you put state before God you are asking for trouble even in this day and age.
Depends what is done with the petition when they get enough signatures.
Im hopeful that it will have some effect.
Politicians are very aware of how public opinion can influence the votes.

In the same vein I was interested to see President Trump saying that a virus antidote may not be needed and just leave it to die out.
I wonder if he visits here or watched videos that get deleted.
That would be a wise move -- feel the pulse of the people-- see trends.

Chris

[Bluegreen]

An appeal signed by Cardinal Gerhard Müller of Germany, Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas (known as "The Red-Pilled Shepherd"), and retired Cardinal Joseph Zen of Hong Kong has been released expressing concern about measures being implemented to stem the coronavirus pandemic. It calls for the “inalienable rights of citizens and their fundamental freedoms” to be respected. Cardinal Robert Sarah of Guinea initially signed, but changed his mind and withdrew his name.

Among the more than 80 signatories are medical doctors (many of whom are from northern Italy, the region hardest hit by the pandemic), magistrates and lawyers, heads of associations, and journalists. They comprise both Catholics and non-Catholics, including some atheists. A late addition is environmental lawyer Robert Francis Kennedy Jr., son of the late Robert F. Kennedy.

The appeal, principally written by former apostolic nuncio Archbishop Carlo Viganò, comes from the website of an ad hoc organization that calls itself Veritas Liberabit Vos (the truth shall set you free), a line from the Gospel of John (8:32). It is not known who created the site. There has been no comment from the Vatican.

National Catholic Register
https://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/four-cardinals-several-bishops-sign-appeal-against-coronavirus-restrictions


http://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fc%2Fcb%2FCarlo_Maria_Vigan%25 C3%25B2_in_2013_%2528cropped%2529.jpg&sp=1589059315T2c72e8c3d061bf545a21d5164218c27646782e93c351272d14ec182f892c376c

Carlo Maria Viganò is an archbishop of the Catholic Church who served as the Apostolic Nuncio to the United States from 19 October 2011 to 12 April 2016. He previously served as Secretary-General of the Governorate of Vatican City State from 16 July 2009 to 3 September 2011.

[AutumnW]

It's very well written. The mind behind the pen has a very good idea of what's going on.

Yes indeed.
It specifically mentions the use of material from aborted fetus .

The PTB made a big mistake in banning people from churches -- you put state before God you are asking for trouble even in this day and age.
Depends what is done with the petition when they get enough signatures.
Im hopeful that it will have some effect.
Politicians are very aware of how public opinion can influence the votes.

In the same vein I was interested to see President Trump saying that a virus antidote may not be needed and just leave it to die out.
I wonder if he visits here or watched videos that get deleted.
That would be a wise move -- feel the pulse of the people-- see trends.

Chris

I wrote this on another thread, as a response to Melinda, Chris. It sums up my point of view, fwiw.

"it's worth considering, maybe, that if people want to make a case to whatever law enforcement or local politician / authority might disagree with them (authorities who might try to stop them or punish them) then it's helpful for them to know of information that conflicts with the justifications those officials are using to shut them down or limit their movements. That includes testimony from medical professionals, politicians and others who provide evidence of hypocrisy, corruption, or mistakes / inefficiency from officials pushing for lockdown and harsh measures."--Melinda

The U.S government is a vast criminal enterprise--including its judicial system. No more than a fraction of those involved, are aware of that fact. Any country that has to be on a permanent war footing for the sake of its economy and to preserve the reserve status of its currency, is overtly criminal. Forget a secret government. This is right out in the open and is neither left or right.

Whether the virus is part of a greater plan, originally aimed at the Chinese, or not...I can't tell for sure and it is almost incidental to the greater global screw over that has been going on for years. If it was part of plan, the blowback is extraordinary and the federal govt. under Trump has revealed with what utter contempt it holds it's citizens.

I have to deal with the IRS yearly, and from personal experience can tell you, it was a dream before the fool became president and gutted funding and instituted chaos. I could phone up, have my calls answered by a pleasant and helpful individual.

Since the buffoon was elected, my licensed accountant whose sole focus is foreign accounts with the IRS hasn't been able to get through. What does this tell you? The agencies that are held up as evil, are often underfunded and employees can't do their jobs. So teeny weeny government for the mass of citizens and huge government infrastructure for the military, for example, illuminated here. (but by all means, those who decry socialism, keep blue pilling it. Feed the propaganda that the federal parasite craves)

The department of public health at Harvard U is a crumbling decaying edifice. The ones dedicated to medical private enterprise, on the same grounds, are bastions of marble and a great architectural beauties to behold. Says something. Crumbling and underfunded is for you. Gleaming and marble is for the upper 5%

There is enough politicized plausible deniability around the issue of the virus, that 'the truth' will either never be known, or it will be outgunned. It is a worthless pursuit to think going through any judicial process will solve any problems, regardless of what they are.

As I don't live in the U.S. I have chosen to shelter in place but realize, again...regardless of cause, that the govt here can't endlessly support the millions of unemployed and the country has to carefully resume operations in a coordinated intelligent way...soon. That is just the way it has to be.

But, make no mistake, this virus isn't a hoax and, like the Spanish flu, could produce strains that cause much more damage in their subsequent waves. So, the conspiracy angle -that local and state governments are somehow aligned with evil forces to strip you of your rights, is incorrect.

You may not agree with what they are doing and who would blame you? But...the intent is not evil--not on their part. These people are not out to get you. They are trying to mitigate a disaster. If there is a plan, it's not a top down conspiracy. It's configured differently.

It is so bad, so bad, that you don't want to pull relatively minor politicians and functionaries, who are garden variety corrupt, into the larger weirder thing that might be going on. If there is a plan, it is part of a geostrategic and global macro dynamic.
Don't discount that those who seem to make great sense may be part of it, or whose ideas may be behind it. I am looking at you, Steve Bannon.

[greybeard]

An appeal signed by Cardinal Gerhard Müller of Germany, Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas (known as "The Red-Pilled Shepherd"), and retired Cardinal Joseph Zen of Hong Kong has been released expressing concern about measures being implemented to stem the coronavirus pandemic. It calls for the “inalienable rights of citizens and their fundamental freedoms” to be respected. Cardinal Robert Sarah of Guinea initially signed, but changed his mind and withdrew his name.

Among the more than 80 signatories are medical doctors (many of whom are from northern Italy, the region hardest hit by the pandemic), magistrates and lawyers, heads of associations, and journalists. They comprise both Catholics and non-Catholics, including some atheists. A late addition is environmental lawyer Robert Francis Kennedy Jr., son of the late Robert F. Kennedy.

The appeal, principally written by former apostolic nuncio Archbishop Carlo Viganò, comes from the website of an ad hoc organization that calls itself Veritas Liberabit Vos (the truth shall set you free), a line from the Gospel of John (8:32). It is not known who created the site. There has been no comment from the Vatican.

National Catholic Register
https://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/four-cardinals-several-bishops-sign-appeal-against-coronavirus-restrictions


http://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fc%2Fcb%2FCarlo_Maria_Vigan%25 C3%25B2_in_2013_%2528cropped%2529.jpg&sp=1589059315T2c72e8c3d061bf545a21d5164218c27646782e93c351272d14ec182f892c376c

Carlo Maria Viganò is an archbishop of the Catholic Church who served as the Apostolic Nuncio to the United States from 19 October 2011 to 12 April 2016. He previously served as Secretary-General of the Governorate of Vatican City State from 16 July 2009 to 3 September 2011.

Thanks Bluegreen
The list of those who have signed the (petition) is impressive -- including Robert F Kennedy.
As said I have signed it and I hope other Avalon members will too.

https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/

Chris

[wegge]

Someone sent a link to it in a German WhatsApp group. German Bild Zeitung, which changed her stance to a more critical one since being taken over by US investors KKS this January, also had it as a headline (online) for a few hours before they buried it somewhere.

That’s the link to their article (in German)
https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/coronavirus-und-kirche-bischoefe-warnen-vor-systematischer-ueberwachung-70534740.bild.html

[T Smith]

The United States is on the verge of civil war. The people are more divided than ever; friends and families are divided, households are divided, spouses are divided. People are atrophying mentally, emotionally, spiritually. We are all in a weakened state to successfully stave off a non-violent negotiation.

As the people are being corralled, something will give. This is exactly why it has been so important for the PTB to go after the 2nd amendment--to avoid the inevitable conflict of a the take down of Constitutional Government, which isn't possible without violence given the 2nd Amendment.

Yesterday we witnessed perhaps the nascent overture of what's to come in Central Michigan as Michigan Militia and the Michigan State police had a standoff (https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/day-six-community-continues-to-rally-behind-owosso-barber-defying-gov-whitmers-order)over enforcing Governor Whitman's order to arrest a 77 year old barber who refused to close his barber shop.

This is just the beginning, folks. If the totalitarians and fear-mongering propagandists do not back down from their march (and there is no evidence to indicate otherwise), this isn't going to end well.

Godspeed to all.

[Hermoor]

From Australia. I don't know the context and preamble to this video.

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Suffice to say if it stacks up to face value, then this is where the rubber meets the road.

I was hoping to see 100+ local men with guts and integrity quietly wading in to the middle of that abomination and telling the cops in no uncertain terms to re-evaluate their mindsets and morals.

[Hermoor]

Police officer Greg Anderson speaking out a few days ago.

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The latest update on his situation. Basically he's been fired for speaking out, specifically not adhering to the orders of his state governor. In his own words from 2:25.

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[shaberon]

The United States is on the verge of civil war. The people are more divided than ever; friends and families are divided, households are divided, spouses are divided. People are atrophying mentally, emotionally, spiritually. We are all in a weakened state to successfully stave off a non-violent negotiation.



This is just the beginning, folks. If the totalitarians and fear-mongering propagandists do not back down from their march (and there is no evidence to indicate otherwise), this isn't going to end well.





Well, I can look at a Treasury Department-blacklisted Iranian website and get a picture of a local protestor described as entering a sandwich shop. Oh, look, it's a Subway, everyone's heard of that, right?

It is legitimate, and, for the most part, represents the Small Businesses that were presumably assisted by government intervention:

https://media.farsnews.ir/media/Uploaded/Files/Images/1399/02/22/13990222132639434_PhotoL.jpg



I don't know what the Iranians think of this, but it is the law abiding tax paying type of conservative, because it is our small businesses. Needless to say, should there be any kind of violent outbreak they could legally respond to, it is already very well prepared for, for a very long time.

I mean, we have bits and pieces of gangs that commit shootings pretty much daily, but, if you were talking in terms of that crowd versus the people as a whole, it would be eradicated almost immediately.

So if you mean civil disturbances, that could be likely, but who would mount an actual civil war in an attempt to take over the government?

The only similar one I am aware of was an attempt to get rid of it.

It's just a heritage. These are not the people in Idaho who build survival camps. That guy might be on the fire department. So it is a bit more, society as whole has this kind of safety net built in. The idea of removing that government has not gone away. But these days it would probably be more of a non-violent Brexit into regional blocs.

[Hermoor]

Colorado restaurant reopens in defiance of statewide public health order.

http://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/10/castle-rock-cc-coffee-reopens-coronavirus/

The restaurant owner said they reopened to stand "for America, small businesses, the Constitution and against the overreach of our governor in Colorado!!"

[shaberon]

The church people say the governor can't close church because it is unconstitutional.

Firstly, the U. S. Constitution does not apply to the governor. It says no religion will be forcefully established or prohibited; it doesn't say anything about whether you can go to a particular church building.

The governor however is party to the state constitution, which, unlike the U. S., is a document that depends upon God and sounds a whole lot to me like an establishment of some kind of religion--and they can do that, since it is only the U. S. government that cannot.

The closest ours comes internally to any religious subject is:

All persons have a natural and inalienable right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences, and no human authority shall, in any case whatever, control or interfere with the rights of conscience.

Here, they say "conscience" twice, only instance in the whole document. It must mean something, but, it turns out to be almost undefined; a close approximation is:

Rights of conscience, however, protect a person from mandatory participation in an activity if the activity in question threatens the fundamental values of an individual person.

Example:

a doctor believes abortion is murder, so he does not have to do it. It makes no difference whether his opinion is true.

Possible examples would be:

war or vaccines disturb your personal beliefs. You should not have to do them. But I am not sure if this actually gets protected.

Again there is nothing in the language that has anything to do with physical addresses or whether you can travel to them. It's just a different subject. This right does not allow you to do anything. It prevents the government from compelling you to act.

But, if we follow the language as it is actually written, no human authority may control or interfere with rights of conscience, and so it looks like vaccines are thoroughly objectionable on this basis. Of course, the U. S. Constitution is silent on conscience; one would perhaps have to invoke the ninth amendment that "other rights are not disparaged".

[ErtheVessel]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but Elon Musk has reopened his Tesla plant in Fremont, California in defiance of county Covid-19 mandates.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/11/elon-musk-restarts-tesla-factory-in-defiance-of-county-orders/

He is quoted to have said, “if anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.”

The article above cites a response from California governor Gavin Newsom. Most people I know here in California assume that Newsom is working his way very diligently to the White House. He definitely seems to have his eyes on the presidency.

Newsom was the mayor of San Francisco for several years, and then attorney general and now governor. I'm sure he and Musk are great, good friends. It will be interesting to see how he handles this situation with Musk while simultaneously protecting his political ambitions.

Is Musk somehow participating in pre-scripted political theater? I can't say that I trust him to be non-compliant for any kind of humanitarian or civil rights reasons.

:popcorn:



(Moderators: if this post is in the wrong thread, please feel free to move it. Posting it here because of the non-compliance issue, but it's also oddly complicated!)

[shaberon]

Good question. Nearby, it appears Los Angeles (https://www.rt.com/usa/488489-la-county-lockdown-extended/) is going to continue going nowhere for maybe another three months.

Some cities nothing near that big around here are going a bit stricter, longer, and some people still say they believe it is safer just to keep keeping everyone at home.

These shutdowns are coming from mayors and local health boards. I understand there is a disease at large and I see we have ramped up to 15k positive out of 200k tests; but during this time, hospital requirements took a need from "nothing" to about 350 somewhat quickly, then for a month, struggled to break 500, and now went under again. With a few thousand more tests and positive tests, there is less strain on the system. Let me rephrase that. There has not been any strain on the system, and now there is less call for it.

I am not sure what it takes to put that big of a foot on Los Angeles, again, or what happens when you do that.

[Gracy]

This short clip put a smile on my face to start the day. One man shaming 20 cops for the old "do as we say, not as we do". I think this is from Los Angeles.

A sign of things to come?
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[RunningDeer]

Officer Anderson: (partial transcript)




We don’t get to violate people's constitutional rights because somebody in our chain of command tells us otherwise. It’s not how this country works. We’re violating people's rights and taking money from them or even worse arresting them and depriving them of their freedom. When they are exercising their constitutional rights.

You don't get to stop people unless you have reasonable suspicion or probable cause that they have committed a crime. These officers that are going out here and enforcing these tyrannical orders they're widening the gap between public trust and law enforcement officers. Our power that we hold as law enforcement officers it’s nothing more than a facade. It’s a badge and a gun. And people you don't realize if you haven't lived in anarchy, if you haven't seen combat things can be stripped from people in a heartbeat. And that’s what I'm afraid of. I’m afraid that these actions are going to wake a sleeping giant, ie the American.

People you know you don't get to just say, “Well I’m doing this because I was told to do so.” “Well I'm following orders or I need to keep this job.” If you’re part of a department or an agency that is asking people or asking their officers or their deputies to impose on people's rights and infringe on their their freedoms, you need to step up and say no. That’s not me. That’s not what I signed up for and that's going against my oath. And if that cost you your job so be it.

I'll leave you with this something that I learned as an E-nothing in the Army. No matter what situation you're put in if you look inside yourself and ask yourself one question, “Am I doing the right thing?” You ask yourself that you know the answer and no amount of money or no order or law or anything should be able to make you go against doing the right thing. So I'm employing officers to look inside themselves and ask themselves, “Is this what I want to be doing to my citizens?” And I think the answer is clear. And if we all stand up together, guess what it'll be a non-issue, no factor because people in law enforcement will be United like we should be.



Do You Consent? (5:37 min)
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[ExomatrixTV]

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[RunningDeer]

Laura Ingraham (pushing back with information): They need to keep away from our children and away from our businesses. Heck, I don’t want them near my dogs at this point, given what they’ve been saying and doing. It’s long past time for this shut down to end. Period.


COVID truths, frauds and tyrants (5:22 minutes)




Pennsylvania Health Secretary Rachel Levine, who weeks ago ordered nursing homes to admit COVID-positive residents, quietly extracted her own mother out of harm's way.


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[ExomatrixTV]

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[Hermoor]

Rowdy Roddy Piper is all outta bubblegum.... again.

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[ExomatrixTV]

Tucker: Big Tech censors dissent over coronavirus lockdowns
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[Kryztian]

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[shaberon]

A few local sheriffs and churches are going to "get together" indoors. I cannot think of a better way to spread disease, but, it is important to them.

Meanwhile we can find a plain enough Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel-bonfire-arr/israeli-police-arrest-320-over-coronavirus-breach-at-jewish-festival-idUSKBN22P0T6) article that Israeli police arrested 320 Jews for "rioting".

They were apparently at a rather important Kabbalistic tomb. 320 people in jail sounds like a pretty fast way to spread disease too. But, I guess, Jews attempted to exercise the same kind of right that a few "rebels" around here will probably get away with. Supposedly, they physically scuffled with the cops in order to resist.

I am not sure, does anyone have a bigger mass arrest, on this subject?

[ExomatrixTV]

A few local sheriffs and churches are going to "get together" indoors. I cannot think of a better way to spread disease, but, it is important to them.

Meanwhile we can find a plain enough Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel-bonfire-arr/israeli-police-arrest-320-over-coronavirus-breach-at-jewish-festival-idUSKBN22P0T6) article that Israeli police arrested 320 Jews for "rioting".

They were apparently at a rather important Kabbalistic tomb. 320 people in jail sounds like a pretty fast way to spread disease too. But, I guess, Jews attempted to exercise the same kind of right that a few "rebels" around here will probably get away with. Supposedly, they physically scuffled with the cops in order to resist.

I am not sure, does anyone have a bigger mass arrest, on this subject?


"spread disease" (...) we always had that and people with bad-life-style and elderly (above 70 years old) are at risk it becoming lethal but NOT for the rest of (healthy) people (unless they have already other deadly diseasesis or deadly accidents) ... We have deadly car-accidents every year should we all stop driving "to lower the risks" of people dying due to car accidents? and I can give you DOZENS of examples that can "lower the risks" but NEW other different types of risks that are much worse because of the fear-porn ... You worry way too much about authoritative (unconstitutional) tyranny laws "not being obeyed" than how we all can boost or NATURAL immune-system! ... Playing on the "guilt" can go many ways ... never assume THEY know what is "best"especially when you can see the connection with psychopath & son of a known Eugenicist: BillGates (http://tinyurl.com/BillGatesTyranny) comes to mind.


cheers,
John

[shaberon]

"spread disease" (...) we always had that and people with bad-life-style and elderly (above 70 years old) are at risk it becoming lethal but NOT for the rest of (healthy) people (unless they have already other deadly diseasesis or deadly accidents) ...

Correct, We normally pack these people into nursing homes and churches in order to avoid contact with them. Although this could now be considered something of an extermination sentence, it does make them argue funny things which are not found in the Constitution.




We have deadly car-accidents every year should we all stop driving "to lower the risks" of people dying due to car accidents? and I can give you DOZENS of examples that can "lower the risks" but NEW other different types of risks that are much worse because of the fear-porn ...

Yes, if I was to get on a high horse about it, the automobile as we know it should not exist. Maybe one that is cleaner and safer would be ok. Plenty of land around here to run plenty of farms with nothing but a horse. This has been done for millenia, and may have a few of its own dangers, but not really to the extent of motorized traffic.

I know that is unrealistic since we all want pollution and oil wars, but, in the strict sense, automobile is a terrible problem. In Europe with all the trains and bicycles, it may not seem so bad, but our roads are more or less a slaughterhouse.




You worry way too much about authoritative (unconstitutional) tyranny laws "not being obeyed" than how we all can boost or NATURAL immune-system! ...

This does not apply to me personally, since it would be exactly backwards. I found it curious that Israel would arrest 320 Jews over what some Americans say the Constitution protects: their ability to enter a building. Isn't this thread about non-compliance with laws?




Playing on the "guilt" can go many ways ... never assume THEY know what is "best"especially when you can see the connection with psychopath & son of a known Eugenicist: BillGates (http://tinyurl.com/BillGatesTyranny) comes to mind.



No, "rule by experts" has not gone very well at all, since most of them are mouthpieces for preconceived plans. Most of the people that tell us what to do, are good at only one thing, telling us what to do. If they did not have this role, they probably would be seen as unfit for any other type of employment.

[Justjane]

You know the establishment is winning when the people are literally begging to go back to work for their controllers during a global pandemic that potentially puts them and their loved ones at risk....

[Justplain]

I hope everyone is not losing sight of the fact that the covid-19 disease presence is not actually a pandemic, only 2‰ of those who get it get seriously ill and even the vast majority of those are successfully treatable with cheap malaria drugs, such as quinine:

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https://www.facebook.com/710370386/posts/10163800656340387/

[Sunny-side-up]

I just hope that the more we resist these wrongful orders of: stay in, shut down, get injections, report your neighbours etc, well I just hope they don't have a follow up plan to actually spread a virus and say 'There we told you so'

[Luke Holiday]

Rowdy Roddy Piper is all outta bubblegum.... again.

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Thank you for that - it is so apropos...


…. remember the end of the movie when the take down the communication towers...:thumbsup:

[Hermoor]

Rowdy Roddy Piper is all outta bubblegum.... again.

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…. remember the end of the movie when the take down the communication towers...

It's probably why they are filling low earth orbit with them now.

They communicate better up there and are much more difficult for even the most determined ass kickers to bring down.

[Bo Atkinson]

http://harmoniouspalette.com/Dakota-ScreenShot.pngFreedom from

Freedom from unusual punishment (covdiot test jabs) ^__^

https://www.ageofautism.com/2020/02/south-dakota-considers-first-state-bill-to-outlaw-all-vaccine-and-medical-mandates.html

Also: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Famericas%2Fsouth-dakota-coronavirus-kristi-noem-stay-at-home-order-a9471156.html%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0vWKgUt3egl68sUlACnZ1Qz8g_tWOuqbryZ30yIuPBQcUIxh39oy59Jg4&h=AT0OC6mrCowaLk0-xjMlJzwFOdYPoPNAs1m7Brjk64ySbDesmiTv0s_bbS3wdSKAwUVBv8GzoFBQlmQDn3pHKdXG56j_8OJdAfIHS52w2C1UdDf0ywrx f1EctHAoxa14gbbba7PU_6nRXr2AMCs

[meeradas]

I just hope that the more we resist these wrongful orders of: stay in, shut down, get injections, report your neighbours etc, well I just hope they don't have a follow up plan to actually spread a virus and say 'There we told you so'

'f course they have! Do you think they make "half plans"? No way, José.
Just trying to be realistic. All the darkness will come to the surface now, all of it.
We are in the times descibed in the Devi Mahatmyam (ancient Indian scripture).
They have lost, and they know it; thus, trying their utmost to cement the status quo until the end.
Everyone of us knows what comes after the dark.
Do not lose heart, my friends.
Choose your world.

[greybeard]

For sure Avalon seems totally united on this one.
I want to thank all who post here on this.
With love
Chris

[greybeard]

Dutch official advice to single people: find a sex buddy for lockdown

I wish I was young and Dutch Lol


https://uk.yahoo.com/style/dutch-official-advice-single-people-140828085.html

[greybeard]

Lockdown-breakers dispersed from Scotland's hotspot, Loch Lomond

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/lockdown-breakers-dispersed-scotlands-hotspot-050021005.html

Telling Scots what to do is not a good idea.
Chris

[meeradas]

Telling Scots what to do is not a good idea.
Chris

HA! Refusal to learn from history really isn't a good idea (especially in this case). :biggrin1:

[T Smith]

I just hope that the more we resist these wrongful orders of: stay in, shut down, get injections, report your neighbours etc, well I just hope they don't have a follow up plan to actually spread a virus and say 'There we told you so'

'f course they have! Do you think they make "half plans"? No way, José.
Just trying to be realistic. All the darkness will come to the surface now, all of it.
We are in the times descibed in the Devi Mahatmyam (ancient Indian scripture).
They have lost, and they know it; thus, trying their utmost to cement the status quo until the end.
Everyone of us knows what comes after the dark.
Do not lose heart, my friends.
Choose your world.

Exactly right. Right now the dam hasn't broke on the side where the people reject this takeover, but when it does, the progenitors of these crimes against humanity will release another "we-told-you-so" bio-weapon. If the sheep escape the coral you better believe there is an even more devastating herding mechanism in store to gather us right back to where they want us.

When that happens, the only hope I see to resist is for our leaders to stop pussyfooting around and to be brave enough to publicly come right out and say it, without mincing words: WE ARE UNDER ATTACK. WE CAN UNITE AND RESIST OR WE CAN CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE ATTACKERS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER. HUMANITY IS AT CROSSROADS. THE CHOICE IS OURS.

I'm not sure if Trump or Johnson, or any other leader of the people (or how many even exist on those terms) has the wherewithal or courage to go there, but this is what we need. We are at that point in history where the public needs a harsh and brutally honest wake up call.

[meeradas]

I do agree, but invite everyone not to forget this [chorus lyrics]:

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[greybeard]

Coronavirus protests: Jeremy Corbyn's brother among protesters arrested at Hyde Park 'mass gathering'
Lizzie Dearden
The Independent

Police officers apprehend Piers Corbyn, Jeremy Corbyn's brother, during a demonstration against the coronavirus lockdown in Hyde Park on 16 May:
Jeremy Corbyn’s brother is among several people to be arrested at a coronavirus protest in London.

Conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers gathered at Speakers’ Corner on Saturday for one of dozens of “mass gatherings” organised across Britain to oppose lockdown restrictions.

Piers Corbyn, the former Labour leader’s brother, used a megaphone to tell the crowd that the pandemic was a “pack of lies to brainwash you and keep you in order”, shouting: “Vaccination is not necessary”.

The astrophysicist was taken away after refusing to leave when asked by a police officer or to give his details.

He is believed to have been arrested under the Health Protection Regulations, which make gathering in a group of more than two people illegal.

Like many of the protesters, Mr Corbyn claimed coronavirus was linked to 5G technology, adding: “5G enhances anyone who's got illness from Covid, so they work together.”

The baseless conspiracy theory has caused a wave of vandalism against 5G masts and attacks on engineers.

The Metropolitan Police said six people had been arrested in the Hyde Park area by 2pm on Saturday, as the protest continued.

There was a heavy police presence at the demonstration, which saw some people group together with signs and chants of “no 5G” and “no forced vaccinations”.

Other supporters sat in groups on the surrounding grass, after flyers were distributed online calling for people to “bring a picnic, some music and let’s have some fun and say yes to life”.

Around 100 people were gathered at the peak of the demonstration, although it was unclear how many were curious passers-by.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-protests-jeremy-corbyns-brother-133000715.html

[onawah]

Italian Government call for arrest of Bill Gates
278,502 views•May 14, 2020
prisoners0fprogress
1.46K subscribers

(English translation in the video)
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[onawah]

Well, not quite everyone, apparently. See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110775-Dr-Fauci-sealed-indictment&p=1353841&viewfull=1#post1353841

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110874-Top-30-Side-Effects-of-the-Unjust-Lock-down--by-John-Kuhles&p=1354366&viewfull=1#post1354366


For sure Avalon seems totally united on this one.
I want to thank all who post here on this.
With love
Chris

[Tomkoyote]

Be this Guy

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAQ2SoPg-op/?igshid=d2ehnfidrn3q

[AutumnW]

Well, not quite everyone, apparently. See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110775-Dr-Fauci-sealed-indictment&p=1353841&viewfull=1#post1353841

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110874-Top-30-Side-Effects-of-the-Unjust-Lock-down--by-John-Kuhles&p=1354366&viewfull=1#post1354366


For sure Avalon seems totally united on this one.
I want to thank all who post here on this.
With love
Chris

Totally united on what? That we should all go outside unmasked, shake hands, hold signs and generally behave like Boris Johnston...did...past tense. And we all know what happened to him after going to a local hospital, shaking everyone's hands and crowing about it.

[shaberon]

You know the establishment is winning when the people are literally begging to go back to work for their controllers during a global pandemic that potentially puts them and their loved ones at risk....

I just went back to work for one day. No begging was involved.

I found that my small business owners had taken the commensurate loan, and believe that the shutdown reaction is fake fear mongering.

We have another employee who may not come back, because his nurse wife will not let him work. I am not sure, but, there is a decent chance she works in a palliative care unit, which may have produced an extremely grim outlook.

On the other hand we have someone thinking about quitting if business does not go back to full hours.

I may eventually find that there are more people who personally refuse to work, but, in my experience, I don't know anyone who wants to lift a finger or change anything over this.

For the time being, it means I can do less and still get paid, which is interesting, complete opposite of what economics attempts to impose, which is more work for less.

However, I expect the scene at large plants and big stores is very different from what I see.

[onawah]

I wouldn't assume there would be agreement either as to whether Boris Johnston was necessarily telling the truth about that.
Personally, I don't put much store in what most of our world "leaders" say.
Going outside unmasked, shaking hands, etc. is actually what many experts agree would be a much better thing for us all to be doing.
As many of the threads on Avalon about the plandemic are pointing to.
But I don't think there has been a poll taken, not as yet, anyway.

O

Well, not quite everyone, apparently. See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110775-Dr-Fauci-sealed-indictment&p=1353841&viewfull=1#post1353841

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110874-Top-30-Side-Effects-of-the-Unjust-Lock-down--by-John-Kuhles&p=1354366&viewfull=1#post1354366


For sure Avalon seems totally united on this one.
I want to thank all who post here on this.
With love
Chris

Totally united on what? That we should all go outside unmasked, shake hands, hold signs and generally behave like Boris Johnston...did...past tense. And we all know what happened to him after going to a local hospital, shaking everyone's hands and crowing about it.

[DaveToo]

Italian Government call for arrest of Bill Gates
278,502 views•May 14, 2020
prisoners0fprogress
1.46K subscribers

(English translation in the video)
QnsYcsCjLWI

It happens all too often here. Fake news.

And I wish that a few of the people who submit this fake news will pay attention to what I am saying now and give more careful consideration before you hit that Reply button.

In this case I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but it's fake news nonetheless.

1. A headline was copied from a Youtube video and pasted here, but no mention was made that the headline came from the Youtube video.
2. No mention was made about where the headline came from.
3. No fact-checking was made by the poster to see if the headline was accurate.
4. The headline states that the "Italian Government call for arrest of Bill Gates".

This is not true! The Italian Government did not call for the arrest of Bill Gates!

One single member of the Italian Parliament, Deputy Sara Cunial, rose and spoke to the Chamber of Deputies.
This was her request at the end of her speech:

"I ask you, President, to be the spokesperson and give advice to our president Conte: Dear Mr.Conte, next time you'll receive a phone call from the philanthropist Bill Gates forward it directly to the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. If you don't do this, tell us how we should define you, the "friend lawyer" who takes orders from a criminal. Thank you."

She was making a request, on her own, to the President of the Council of Ministers (not to the President of the Republic).

The government of Italy was NOT calling for the arrest of Bill Gates!

And even Deputy Sara Cunial was not calling for Bill Gates' arrest.

I shouldn't have to spend the time fact-checking posts here that other people make.
The title of the post sounded way too sensational, way too good to be true.

[onawah]

It depends on how you read it.
Cunial made the call, and she is a member of the Italian Parliament. So it was a call made by a Member within the Parliament.
If the headline had read "Italian Government CallS for the Arrest of Bill Gates, that would have been inaccurate, because it would have been referring to the entire Parliament.

[T Smith]

Well, not quite everyone, apparently. See: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110775-Dr-Fauci-sealed-indictment&p=1353841&viewfull=1#post1353841

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110874-Top-30-Side-Effects-of-the-Unjust-Lock-down--by-John-Kuhles&p=1354366&viewfull=1#post1354366


For sure Avalon seems totally united on this one.
I want to thank all who post here on this.
With love
Chris

Totally united on what? That we should all go outside unmasked, shake hands, hold signs and generally behave like Boris Johnston...did...past tense. And we all know what happened to him after going to a local hospital, shaking everyone's hands and crowing about it.

Yes, we all know what happened to Boris Johnson. He got sick for a few days, recovered, and then went back to work.

Assuming the COVID positive cases and COVID deaths are accurate (that's a huge leap), the problem is, given the current course of policy, there will be no end. Ever. You can't defeat this kind of contagion by instituting measures that result in a slow leak. It won't work. It just delays the period the virus runs through society, prolonging the infection. That's just on the utilitarian end of things. On a practical side, the only way to pull the "slow leak" strategy to curb the virus is to tear down society and establish totalitarian government in its stead. Do you really want totalitarian rule? I'm posing that as a sincere question. Some people believe liberty is over-rated.

This isn't Marburg, this isn't Ebola. This isn't the Bubonic plague. This is a coronavirus, with a .1% - .2% death rate in league with the seasonal flu, the overwhelming majority of whom being those whose lives would be endangered if they got on a roller-coaster.

Herd immunity is a good thing. The quicker we get there the sooner this virus will go away.

[ExomatrixTV]

Dallas salon owner has sharp message for Maxine Waters
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[One]

Italian Government call for arrest of Bill Gates
278,502 views•May 14, 2020
prisoners0fprogress
1.46K subscribers

(English translation in the video)
QnsYcsCjLWI

It happens all too often here. Fake news.

And I wish that a few of the people who submit this fake news will pay attention to what I am saying now and give more careful consideration before you hit that Reply button.

In this case I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but it's fake news nonetheless.

1. A headline was copied from a Youtube video and pasted here, but no mention was made that the headline came from the Youtube video.
2. No mention was made about where the headline came from.
3. No fact-checking was made by the poster to see if the headline was accurate.
4. The headline states that the "Italian Government call for arrest of Bill Gates".

This is not true! The Italian Government did not call for the arrest of Bill Gates!

One single member of the Italian Parliament, Deputy Sara Cunial, rose and spoke to the Chamber of Deputies.
This was her request at the end of her speech:

"I ask you, President, to be the spokesperson and give advice to our president Conte: Dear Mr.Conte, next time you'll receive a phone call from the philanthropist Bill Gates forward it directly to the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. If you don't do this, tell us how we should define you, the "friend lawyer" who takes orders from a criminal. Thank you."

She was making a request, on her own, to the President of the Council of Ministers (not to the President of the Republic).

The government of Italy was NOT calling for the arrest of Bill Gates!

And even Deputy Sara Cunial was not calling for Bill Gates' arrest.

I shouldn't have to spend the time fact-checking posts here that other people make.
The title of the post sounded way too sensational, way too good to be true.

Not really much to see here is there? It is more than obvious for anybody watching the video that it was a member implying bill gates should be arrested. You probably didn't even need to watch it to sumise that. Not much subtifuge to worry about as far as I can tell.

[ExomatrixTV]

THOUSANDS Flood Beaches in Defiance Of Lockdown, The people Have Spoken, Lockdown Has BROKEN
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[DaveToo]

It depends on how you read it.
Cunial made the call, and she is a member of the Italian Parliament. So it was a call made by a Member within the Parliament.
If the headline had read "Italian Government CallS for the Arrest of Bill Gates, that would have been inaccurate, because it would have been referring to the entire Parliament.

Nice try onawah. :)

The "call" was likely due to either a typo or simply poor English skills on the part of the Youtube poster.

This would have been a much more appropriate title:

"Italian Politician Slams Covid Measures & Bill Gates"

It's a lot less sensational, but a heck of a lot more accurate!

[onawah]

Whatever. More worthy of note was her impassioned plea and courage for speaking out, and doing so very eloquently.


It depends on how you read it.
Cunial made the call, and she is a member of the Italian Parliament. So it was a call made by a Member within the Parliament.
If the headline had read "Italian Government CallS for the Arrest of Bill Gates, that would have been inaccurate, because it would have been referring to the entire Parliament.

Nice try onawah. :)

The "call" was likely due to either a typo or simply poor English skills on the part of the Youtube poster.

This would have been a much more appropriate title:

"Italian Politician Slams Covid Measures & Bill Gates"

It's a lot less sensational, but a heck of a lot more accurate!

[RunningDeer]

Sheriff Mack Calls on Sheriffs: America Has Become A Catastrophe, We Need Action! (28 min)



We have dozens if not hundreds of sheriff's now across America that have told governors and certain mayors we will not enforce your ridiculous rules and orders because we will stand and enforce the Constitution.

Sheriff Richard Mack has a Supreme Court victory. He took Bill Clinton's Brady bill to the highest court in the land and defeated it.

Sheriff Mack served the public for nearly 20 years as a law enforcement holding many different positions ranging from patrol officer to undercover narcotics a detective, and as sheriff of Graham County Arizona. He has received many awards over the years and has a long track record of standing for the Constitution. He is the founder of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.

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[Water is life]

Footage from a protest in Glasgow, Scotland on 16 May 2020. Filmed by David McGowran.


https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157531908684811&id=545974810&scmts=scwspsdd&extid=eAJSEQnOwwNR2oK0

[shaberon]

[INDENT][INDENT][I]We have dozens if not hundreds of sheriff's now across America that have told governors and certain mayors we will not enforce your ridiculous rules and and orders because we will stand and enforce the Constitution.



Yes this is accurate to say there are swaths of sheriffs across multiple states who will fail to respond to various directives.

He cannot really enforce the Constitution because it does not apply to him. If it means anything, it means he would arrest federal agents who are caught in violation of it.

The organization, Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association or CSPOA (https://cspoa.org/sop/) is headquartered in Arizona with an outspoken dedication to strong anti-illegal immigration, which, from a legal standpoint, is correct.

If you can stomach that, his main point is that corruption cannot be fixed from the "top down", and that the office of county sheriff is about the last hope to make it happen. That is a quick generalization, but also correct. The brief mission synopsis is certainly about keeping federalism at bay in realistic terms.

It does not apply to police departments who work for the mayors and so forth.

He may not be the one to personally storm the Senate or anything like that, but, the underlying gist of why the sheriffs and counties are particularly important, is valid.

[RunningDeer]

https://twitter.com/PeteHegseth/status/1262393521006415876
https://twitter.com/TheAtilisGym/status/1262403490929876993

[RunningDeer]

https://i.imgur.com/Q1Hpsgk.jpg

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1262257093031202816

[shaberon]

The debt levels on that chart are something to think about, but none of it works the same.

In terms of a Balanced Budget Amendment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_budget_amendment#United_States), the United States does not have one, but most states and countries do. Each place makes their own rules: an unusual variant is the Oregon kicker, which bans surpluses of more than 2% of revenue by refunding the money to the taxpayers. One sees no income tax in Texas. Now, of course, with a huge amount of "projected revenue" missing, most states are caught between violating their balanced budgets, or turning off social services. Or in some cases they might not work on roads. Or both.

On a federal level the largest holder is now Japan at around 1.2 trillion since they have laissez faire to run whatever wonky finances they want. Americans are chained to this, until. But whatever hole California dug is essentially their own. About all the rest of us are going to buy from there is agriculture. I will help you out of your 54 billion dollar hole, one pack of Sunmaid Raisins at a time.

[RunningDeer]

https://twitter.com/PeteHegseth/status/1262393521006415876
https://twitter.com/TheAtilisGym/status/1262403490929876993


UPDATE: NJ governor 'ramps up' harassment to gym citizens

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[Gracy]

https://twitter.com/TheAtilisGym/status/1262403490929876993


I absolutely love the role the county sheriff plays here, I really do. DO NOT arrest small business owners who need to open back up to make a living for both themselves, and their employees.

We've been there done that with the lockdowns, they simply can't continue, and we have to find a way of moving forward as individuals within society in a safe, and responsible manner.

Having said that...

IMO the people here do not demonstrate much semblance of that much needed personal responsibility, in the way that they act immediately following their victory by being all crammed up in close quarters, and chanting loudly thus filling the air with possible virus particles.

Many of them were wearing masks, many were not, bottom line is we need to be smart about this once we've re won our rights to run our own lives as we see fit again.

Much as I admire their cause and their victory, I would not be seen amongst them were I in the vicinity, for health concerns as well as the visual message they are inadvertently sending. The proverbial fat lady ain't sung yet on this one, not yet...

[Luke Holiday]

https://i.imgur.com/Q1Hpsgk.jpg

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1262257093031202816

I see this is now a partisan issue - Repubs opening and Dems staying closed... The agenda's are now very clear..

[norman]

YES! African Leaders Stand Up! Tanzania & Madagascar


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[greybeard]

Macfee tells me risky to go here https://veritasliberabitvos.info/sign-the-appeal/

This is another form of Censorship.
They try everything to stop you signing this Appeal
Chris

This site is the Appeal started by catholic Bishops --its perfectly safe.
When i Have tried to paste info on its main site I get a site is slowing down your browser -- rubbish

Then it wont let me continue
If you check you will see a small yellow triangle on the URL
Chris

I have pasted it here with some difficulty--- they (PTB) dont want it signed.
Jn 8:32

In this time of great crisis, we Pastors of the Catholic Church, by virtue of our mandate, consider it our sacred duty to make an Appeal to our Brothers in the Episcopate, to the Clergy, to Religious, to the holy People of God and to all men and women of good will. This Appeal has also been undersigned by intellectuals, doctors, lawyers, journalists and professionals who agree with its content, and may be undersigned by those who wish to make it their own.

The facts have shown that, under the pretext of the Covid-19 epidemic, the inalienable rights of citizens have in many cases been violated and their fundamental freedoms, including the exercise of freedom of worship, expression and movement, have been disproportionately and unjustifiably restricted. Public health must not, and cannot, become an alibi for infringing on the rights of millions of people around the world, let alone for depriving the civil authority of its duty to act wisely for the common good. This is particularly true as growing doubts emerge from several quarters about the actual contagiousness, danger and resistance of the virus. Many authoritative voices in the world of science and medicine confirm that the media’s alarmism about Covid-19 appears to be absolutely unjustified.

We have reason to believe, on the basis of official data on the incidence of the epidemic as related to the number of deaths, that there are powers interested in creating panic among the world’s population with the sole aim of permanently imposing unacceptable forms of restriction on freedoms, of controlling people and of tracking their movements. The imposition of these illiberal measures is a disturbing prelude to the realization of a world government beyond all control.

We also believe that in some situations the containment measures that were adopted, including the closure of shops and businesses, have precipitated a crisis that has brought down entire sectors of the economy. This encourages interference by foreign powers and has serious social and political repercussions. Those with governmental responsibility must stop these forms of social engineering, by taking measures to protect their citizens whom they represent, and in whose interests they have a serious obligation to act. Likewise, let them help the family, the cell of society, by not unreasonably penalizing the weak and elderly, forcing them into a painful separation from their loved ones. The criminalization of personal and social relationships must likewise be judged as an unacceptable part of the plan of those who advocate isolating individuals in order to better manipulate and control them.

We ask the scientific community to be vigilant, so that cures for Covid-19 are offered in honesty for the common good. Every effort must be made to ensure that shady business interests do not influence the choices made by government leaders and international bodies. It is unreasonable to penalize those remedies that have proved to be effective, and are often inexpensive, just because one wishes to give priority to treatments or vaccines that are not as good, but which guarantee pharmaceutical companies far greater profits, and exacerbate public health expenditures. Let us also remember, as Pastors, that for Catholics it is morally unacceptable to develop or use vaccines derived from material from aborted fetuses.

We also ask government leaders to ensure that forms of control over people, whether through tracking systems or any other form of location-finding, are rigorously avoided. The fight against Covid-19, however serious, must not be the pretext for supporting the hidden intentions of supranational bodies that have very strong commercial and political interests in this plan. In particular, citizens must be given the opportunity to refuse these restrictions on personal freedom, without any penalty whatsoever being imposed on those who do not wish to use vaccines, contact tracking or any other similar tool. Let us also consider the blatant contradiction of those who pursue policies of drastic population control and at the same time present themselves as the savior of humanity, without any political or social legitimacy. Finally, the political responsibility of those who represent the people can in no way be left to “experts” who can indeed claim a kind of immunity from prosecution, which is disturbing to say the least.

We strongly urge those in the media to commit themselves to providing accurate information and not penalizing dissent by resorting to forms of censorship, as is happening widely on social media, in the press and on television. Providing accurate information requires that room be given to voices that are not aligned with a single way of thinking. This allows citizens to consciously assess the facts, without being heavily influenced by partisan interventions. A democratic and honest debate is the best antidote to the risk of imposing subtle forms of dictatorship, presumably worse than those our society has seen rise and fall in the recent past.

Finally, as Pastors responsible for the flock of Christ, let us remember that the Church firmly asserts her autonomy to govern, worship, and teach. This autonomy and freedom are an innate right that Our Lord Jesus Christ has given her for the pursuit of her proper ends. For this reason, as Pastors we firmly assert the right to decide autonomously on the celebration of Mass and the Sacraments, just as we claim absolute autonomy in matters falling within our immediate jurisdiction, such as liturgical norms and ways of administering Communion and the Sacraments. The State has no right to interfere, for any reason whatsoever, in the sovereignty of the Church. Ecclesiastical authorities have never refused to collaborate with the State, but such collaboration does not authorize civil authorities to impose any sort of ban or restriction on public worship or the exercise of priestly ministry. The rights of God and of the faithful are the supreme law of the Church, which she neither intends to, nor can, abdicate. We ask that restrictions on the celebration of public ceremonies be removed.

We should like to invite all people of good will not to shirk their duty to cooperate for the common good, each according to his or her own state and possibilities and in a spirit of fraternal charity. The Church desires such cooperation, but this cannot disregard either a respect for natural law or a guarantee of individual freedoms. The civil duties to which citizens are bound imply the State’s recognition of their rights.

We are all called to assess the current situation in a way consistent with the teaching of the Gospel. This means taking a stand: either with Christ or against Christ. Let us not be intimidated or frightened by those who would have us believe that we are a minority: Good is much more widespread and powerful than the world would have us believe. We are fighting against an invisible enemy that seeks to divide citizens, to separate children from their parents, grandchildren from their grandparents, the faithful from their pastors, students from teachers, and customers from vendors. Let us not allow centuries of Christian civilization to be erased under the pretext of a virus, and an odious technological tyranny to be established, in which nameless and faceless people can decide the fate of the world by confining us to a virtual reality. If this is the plan to which the powers of this earth intend to make us yield, know that Jesus Christ, King and Lord of History, has promised that “the gates of Hell shall not prevail” (Mt 16:18).

Let us entrust government leaders and all those who rule over the fate of nations to Almighty God, that He may enlighten and guide them in this time of great crisis. May they remember that, just as the Lord will judge us Pastors for the flock which he has entrusted to us, so will He also judge government leaders for the peoples whom they have the duty to defend and govern.

With faith, let us beseech the Lord to protect the Church and the world. May the Blessed Virgin, Help of Christians, crush the head of the ancient Serpent and defeat the plans of the children of darkness.

[shaberon]

I see this is now a partisan issue - Repubs opening and Dems staying closed... The agenda's are now very clear..

In terms of the business loans that were made, Democratic states got something like a 15% acceptance rate; Republican areas were all significantly higher, some around half or better.

So indeed, for some strange reason, some of the hardest-hit areas by the disease, Democrat, appear to be the least helped by the assistance, and most of the largest beneficiaries were all Trump contributors. The whole thing generally benefited the largest customers first; small businesses that really are small were not very successful.

[shaberon]

We have reason to believe, on the basis of official data on the incidence of the epidemic as related to the number of deaths, that there are powers interested in creating panic among the world’s population with the sole aim of permanently imposing unacceptable forms of restriction on freedoms, of controlling people and of tracking their movements. The imposition of these illiberal measures is a disturbing prelude to the realization of a world government beyond all control.



It is interesting that this statement is being publicly made by Cardinals.

During the act of resistance, they have to brave it through this recent "event" of "re-opening temporarily":

Catoosa Baptist Tabernacle in Ringgold, Georgia, less than 20 miles away from Chattanooga, Tennessee, and Holy Ghost Catholic Church in Houston have indefinitely canceled services after members and leaders tested positive for the coronavirus shortly after reopening.

What do you do when the priest and thirty members "test positive"? Do they get sick? I missed that part!

Everything I have seen tells me that churches are one of the worst ideas right now. But all I know is a number. Nothing is ever said about sick people or how bad it is. I really don't care if they make numbers. These people sure sound like they went to church just fine.

This Appeal, I guess it's not any kind of political thing from the Vatican, it is just an opinion.

By "world government", do we really mean United Nations? Isn't that the actual name of it? I think it should just be some office where they file treaties and agree on borders, it doesn't have all these additional programs or any ability to do anything on its own. My fantasy version does not exist, but, the real one is a pretty serious ploy for world government, unless people mean something else?

[Luke Holiday]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTv1O9oBaXQ

[pueblo]

Contact tracing is Surveillance Capitalism on steroids.

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[Open Minded Dude]

Meditation protests in Berlin each week.

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Notable: friendly policeman at minute 2:40, wish they were all like this.
Song at the end of the video is a hymn in my country for freedom of thought.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Gedanken_sind_frei

Thoughts are free, who can guess them?
They fly by like nocturnal shadows.
No person can know them, no hunter can shoot them
with powder and lead: Thoughts are free!

I think what I want, and what delights me,
still always reticent, and as it is suitable.
My wish and desire, no one can deny me
and so it will always be: Thoughts are free!

And if I am thrown into the darkest dungeon,
all these are futile works,
because my thoughts tear all gates
and walls apart: Thoughts are free!

So I will renounce my sorrows forever,
and never again will torture myself with whimsies.
In one's heart, one can always laugh and joke
and think at the same time: Thoughts are free!

I love wine, and my girl even more,
Only her I like best of all.
I'm not alone with my glass of wine,
my girl is with me: Thoughts are free!

[East Sun]

My recommendation, I'm nobody so don't listen to me.

I will never take the vaccine or flu shots period.

ES

[Luke Holiday]

Hello.

1. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ear-masks.html

Title: Face mask U-turn: Walmart, Home Depot, Walgreens and CVS are among stores saying they WILL serve customers who don't wear masks despite announcing face coverings were mandatory.

Now this is an incredible walk back by these mega corps who have now acquiesced to our noncompliance!!!!

I believe sharing this story could exponentiate safe/reasonable, yet maximally effective non-compliance in the aforementioned stores leading to similar walk backs by other corporate store chains .

Remember, their are NO LAWS mandating face masks - which is one reason these mega corps are walking back on their face mask policy. There are state directives regarding the use of face masks - but making them mandatory is unconstitutional - this is why the police could not detain nor arrest a person who refuses to comply.

Personally, I will be checking the validity of this story through my own non-compliance at my local Home Depot, Walmart, Walgreens and CVS tomorrow.

It is 1150 PM and I am getting fired up just thinking about walking in tomorrow without my mask, politely answering any resistive questions, buying what I need and walking out - without the useless, ineffective, Oxygen Depleting, GD nappy on my face!!! - You know - like it was in the good ole days - back in March!!!!

I hope you will join me!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111572-PubMed-science-journal-states-5G-could-produce-virus-like-structures-such-as-coronavirus



Blessings Luke

[Luke Holiday]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4Yq5kNqdw



Video is 20 minutes long and I recommend starting at 50 sec mark to avoid the long intro..

The video goes into detail on how these 2 gym owners have defied NY state directives to close gyms due to the alleged CV 19 plandemic. This is truly an amazing story of what lengths the state will resort to and contrarily what incredible determination/fortitude these two have demonstrated in keeping their doors open to their extremely thankful members.

They went so far as to take the doors off of the gym in order to avoid having the state health department put on new locks. The gym members are behind the owners 100% and will be filling the courtroom when they go before judge this week to address their citations.

Please note: They have not broken any laws as state directives are not laws, which is why they cannot be arrested. The same is true for mask wearing... The politicians realize they cannot justify a law mandating masks or closing business's - they can only pass directives with citation punishment which can be argued in court of law.

If enough citizenry push back in this manner - I believe the Covid plandemic at some point - would have be argued in court of law

Folks, we have to start pushing back!!!

I see these two extremely courageous, brave and patriotic American gym owners as symbols of what can and must be done, in mass, in order for the good people of this world to reclaim their planet from the less then 1%

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111572-PubMed-science-journal-states-5G-could-produce-virus-like-structures-such-as-coronavirus

Blessings Luke

[Luke Holiday]

https://www.mlive.com/news/2020/07/d...ear-masks.html

Title: Delta flight departing from Detroit has to turn around as 2 guests refuse to wear masks

This is one is self explanatory:

It would be exhilarating if humanity could co-ordinate a day where this was done on hundred's of flights in a city, country or all over the world....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111572-PubMed-science-journal-states-5G-could-produce-virus-like-structures-such-as-coronavirus

Blessings Luke

[Luke Holiday]

https://www.infowars.com/rep-gohmert-blames-face-mask-for-contracting-covid-19/


... interesting

Blessings Luke

[palehorse]

Hello, I have a simple question, sorry if there is answer for that, but I couldn't find it.

Is it allowed for a medical doctor autopsy a victim of Covid19, if yes what are the results? Please share.

I asked a medical doctor (a friend in Brazil) and he said all doctors are forbidden to autopsy bodies of Covid19 victims. Is that correct?

I am not even sure if this question fit this thread, if not please someone change to the appropriate location, Thanks anyway.

[pyrangello]

I had a customer who came in, her mother had a heart attack at home, her dad was giving CPR til the paramedics came. They managed to get a pulse at the house, transported to the hospital . Her mother later died at the hospital . So as what's happening with so many unrelated DEATHS, they listed cause of death as COVID. My customer is a nurse and wanted an autopsy done, no way baby could not get it done . The numbers are so skewed it's unbelievable. Don't drink the cool aid.

[pyrangello]

I also heard today on anothe r podcast that all or most of the people dying of this COVID have had one or more of these vaccinations in the last 3 years, pneumonia vaccine, shingles vaccine , or regular flu vaccine a or b . I cannot confirm or deny that statement , but the main reason given was these vaccines alter our DNA? ANYONE care to comment on this?

[pyrangello]

One of My best friends is a surgeon of 35,000 surgeries, he told me 4 weeks ago tha t 86% of the DEATHS from COVID our people 84 years or older per the cdc reports. He also told me this virus dies in 1 minute in the sun.it also is dying using high ultra violet light on a patient in the hospital. None of that involves a profit center. We golfed all weekend and he never wore a mask and I don't either.

[pyrangello]

And finally i`m not saying people are not dying. But where are the numbers of the people dying of the regular flu? What are the numbers of the seniors in nursing homes that are passing away? And what are the numbers of all the people that are being listed as COVID DEATHS that are not ? There are on average in the USA 7000 people a day pass away from all kinds of reasons. I do not think we are getting the real numbers period.

[palehorse]

I had a customer who came in, her mother had a heart attack at home, her dad was giving CPR til the paramedics came. They managed to get a pulse at the house, transported to the hospital . Her mother later died at the hospital . So as what's happening with so many unrelated DEATHS, they listed cause of death as COVID. My customer is a nurse and wanted an autopsy done, no way baby could not get it done . The numbers are so skewed it's unbelievable. Don't drink the cool aid.

Thanks for the information. I wonder if it is a wide spread regulation forbidden medical doctor to actually do the autopsy in the deceased body, and if it is not allowed where is the regulation saying that? WHO regulated?

I think there is a chance to prove something here if all medical doctors around the world somehow unite and start to actually do the autopsy.

Why in China we heard that the bodies should be incinerated and no autopsy should be done? Something fishy going on, and it is not because it is highly contagious, the authorities of hell do not want these doctors to see what it really is.

That's my theory, would like to know more about it.

It is been hard to swallow!

[Delight]

I went through so many phases of attempts to make sense. First I was sure it must be a TERRIBLE infection, truly pandemic size and I was in line with some measures but over time this has become a scary realization that we are targeted by intention to destroy. What I cannot believe in my own personal world is how my only friends have been convinced by propaganda and seem angry with me for trying to talk about MY concerns.

People in the states cannot have ANYONE with them if hospitalized. Masks are becoming mandatory. Food prices have increased HUGELY in my area. Gas is back up in price. Lots of businesses have closed in my area. The Catholic church in town no longer has mass. This is what I see.

I have NOT seen anyone ill... just heard second hand and no severe illness. I keep reading that we must respond (push back). HOW? In stores, we encounter people just trying to do their jobs. Politicians acknowledge my letters with form responses.

LOOK at Australia and how it SUDDENLY does seem to become a police state.... frankly I am unsure (given how my freinds see things) people will see this clearly until "They" come for "Them".


We Need a Principled Anti-Lockdown Movement
Jeffrey A. Tucker
– August 9, 2020 (https://www.aier.org/article/we-need-a-principled-anti-lockdown-movement/)

Shell-shocked is a good way to describe the mood in the U.S. for a good part of the Spring of 2020. Most of us never thought it could happen here. I certainly did not, even though I’ve been writing about pandemic lockdown plans for 15 years. I knew the plans were on the shelf, which is egregious, but I always thought something would stop it from happening. The courts. Public opinion. Bill of Rights. Tradition. The core rowdiness of American culture. Political squeamishness. The availability of information.

Something would prevent it. So I believed. So most of us believed.

Still it happened, all in a matter of days, March 12-16, 2020, and boom; it was over! We were locked down. Schools shut. Bars and restaurants closed. No international visitors. Theaters shuttered. Conferences forcibly ended. Sports stopped. We were told to stay home and watch movies…for two weeks to flatten the curve. Then two weeks stretched to five months. How lucky for those who lived in the states that resisted the pressure and stayed open, but even for them, they couldn’t visit relatives in other states due to quarantine restrictions and so on.

Lockdowns ended American life as we knew it just five months ago, for a virus that 99.4-6% of those who contract it shake off, for which the median age of death is 78-80 with comorbidities, for which there is not a single verified case of reinfection on the planet, for which international successes in managing this relied on herd immunity and openness.

Still the politicians who had become dictators couldn’t admit such astonishing failure so they kept the restrictions in place as a way of covering up what they had done.

That shock of Spring has now turned to a Summer of wickedness, with everyone pointing fingers at everyone else for the sorry state of life. Patience has run out and a national viciousness has taken its place. It is evident not only online but in person where strangers scream at each other for behaving in ways in which they disapprove.

What many states are calling “open” today would have been called “closed” six months ago. Sports are rare. Theaters aren’t open. In some places, you still can’t go to gyms or eat inside. Mask mandates are everywhere, and mask enforcers too. People are ratting out their neighbors, sending drones to ferret out house parties, and lashing out at each other in public places.

In a mere five months, lockdowners have manufactured a new form of social structure in which everyone is expected to treat everyone else as a deadly contagion. Even more preposterously, people have come to believe that if you come closer than six feet of another person, a disease spontaneously appears and spreads.

America has become an extremely ugly place. This is what lockdowns did.

All of this has occurred in the midst of the greatest political divide in many generations. Oddly, you almost predict a person’s politics based on their attitude toward the virus, as if sitting political figures are responsible for creating or controlling pathogens that have been part of the human experience since we first walked and talked. The politicization of this disease has been a terrible noise that has distracted from the wise disease management that characterized the American way for more than a century.

But the American people support this, right? I’m not so sure. It’s true that the TV and online media are blaring panic all day every day. If that’s where you get your information, it surely must feel like a plague. There is also the problem that people feel tremendously powerless right now. They have been locked down, silenced, humiliated, brutalized. The few attempts to get out and protest the lockdowns were greeted with jeers and derision by mainstream media. But it turned out that this was because they were protesting the wrong thing. When the protests against police brutality and racism swept the country, the media wholly approved. Yes, it all felt like gaslighting.

Where precisely does American opinion stand on lockdowns today? The polls one cannot trust: people know exactly what they are supposed to say to pollsters during a police-state lockdown. It’s usually a good guess that one-third of Americans take a position that is more-or-less consistent with human liberty – it’s not a fixed group and it shifts depending on the issue – so that’s probably a good guess now.

The incredible frenzy of the lying media has confused vast numbers. A poll revealed that many Americans think that 9% of us have died from C-19 whereas it is really 0.04%. So yes, we have a propaganda problem, starting with the New York Times, which just today demanded “more aggressive shutdowns than have been carried out in the past. The United States has not had a true national lockdown, shuttering only about half the country, compared with 90 percent in other countries with more successful outbreak control.”

None of which is true. This is pure ideological propaganda. The people who are saying true things seem to be only the 1% vs. the barrage of nonsense coming from media culture today.

We see almost no discussion in the mainstream press of the empirical evidence at home and abroad that the lockdowns make no sense from a medical and economic perspective. Medical experts for many decades have warned against disturbing social functioning in the event of disease. Preserving freedom has always been the policy priority: 1949-52, 1957-58, 1968-69, and 2005. The American revolution itself took place in the midst of a smallpox outbreak. Liberalism arose during centuries of pandemics.

And yet here we are.

This country needs a serious anti-lockdown movement, one that is not just political but cultural and intellectual, one that is deeply educated on history, philosophy, law, economics, and all sciences, and can rally around traditional American civic postulates concerning individual freedom and the limits of governments, and also around universal principles of human rights. If liberty means anything, it means that we are not locked down. It means, moreover, that lockdowns are unconscionable.

What should this movement – which need not be formally organized – study, believe, and teach?

Because property rights are the first violated in lockdown, the movement needs to embrace and champion the right of private ownership and control: of businesses, homes, and ourselves. The liberal tradition has long affirmed this principle, and it is nothing but appalling that the lockdowns took place as if private property doesn’t exist. Suddenly everything and everyone belonged to the state, and it would be the state to declare what is or is not essential, or even what is elective vs. nonelective for your medical care.

It should embrace the freedom to choose our associations, since that is what came under attack next: we couldn’t gather in groups, hold conferences, go to the movies, do anything not “socially distant” (I’m so sick of that phrase, wth dubious origins, that I could barely type it), or even go to another state to visit friends and relatives.

This movement needs to celebrate and defend religious freedom, since, incredibly, most houses of worship were forcibly closed by government. The modern idea of freedom came about in the late Middle Ages when exhaustion from religious wars gradually gave rise to the idea of tolerance. Religious toleration was the first great freedom that came to be codified in law. It’s stunning that it was so flagrantly violated this year.

It must come to terms with free enterprise and the innovation that comes with it. How much wealth and creativity has been lost in the lockdowns? It’s unfathomable. The biggest victims have been small and medium-sized businesses, whereas the large tech firms have thrived. To start and manage a commercial enterprise is a human right, the realization of which was the great achievement of modern life, as it spread prosperity throughout the world and lifted up the world’s people from the state of nature and to levels of the entrenched hierarchies of old.

Part of this liberal ideal is free trade, which has come under fire from both the left and right. Don’t forget that Donald Trump kicked off this dictatorial frenzy with his sudden and shocking bans of travel from China and Europe, which resulted in a frenzied and frantic mass crowding of airports in the days following. He did it with a stroke of a pen, overriding all his advisors. He still brags about it.

How much did his extreme reaction here inspire governors to do the same? Of course his actions reflect his persistent isolationism on not only trade but immigration too. Even now, Trump is refusing to allow foreign workers into the U.S. (except for emergency cases) because he incorrectly believes this will help the American job market. It’s an outrage: free enterprise entitles the employment of anyone from anywhere. This is a policy that is good for everyone.

So long as we are talking about freedom fundamentals, let’s talk about masks. They have become exactly what the New England Journal of Medicine called them: a talisman. They are symbols of social commitment and political loyalty. A free society rallies around individual choice, so if masks make a person feel safe, or if it makes them feel they are keeping others safe from their breath, fine. But when people attack others for resisting wearing them, and are apparently upset at the seeming appearance of rebellion from rules, this is imposition and intolerance – perhaps understandable given the times, but still illiberal.

Laws requiring face coverings in public would never have been tolerated even six months ago. And yet here we are, not only with laws but a growing number of recruits within the public to enforce them with appalling rudeness. It’s hardly the first time in history. American sumptuary laws in Colonial times mandated that people not dress in fancy clothes for reasons of piety and social conformism. Part of the capitalist revolution included the freedom to dress as one wants and the mass availability of fashion for everyone. The mandatory mask movement and its shock troops among the public is but a revival of puritanism.

The lockdowns crushed the economic prospects of millions, and government attempted to make up for that with wild spending of other people’s money and an unprecedented use of the printing press, as if government can somehow paper over the destruction it caused. Therefore, the anti-lockdown movement needs a commitment to fiscal sanity and sound money. We now know that a government with the capacity to create unlimited amounts of paper money cannot be constrained. This needs to be fixed.

As for health, the topic or excuse that unleashed the lockdowns in the first place, we surely should learn from this experience that politics and medicine need to be separated with a high wall. We have medical professionals who are traditionally in charge of mitigating disease, and they do so in line with their own professional associations and best judgement. Politics should never override the doctor/patient relationship, nor presume to know what is better for us than our own physicians.

On the matter of education, governors all over the country cruelly locked down all the schools, though there is near-zero threat to kids from the virus and there is no verified case of a child passing C-19 to an adult. Perhaps a small silver lining is that we have learned more about how parents can exercise more control over education than they have previously had. The anti-lockdown movement needs to embrace a multiplicity of educational alternatives including the possibility of full privatization so that education can again be part of the free enterprise matrix.

It’s true that anti-lockdown carries a negative connotation. Is there a better word to convey the positive dimension? My preference: liberalism. Progressives have abandoned it. It is also correct from a historical and international perspective. Liberalism and modernity are inextricably linked in history, says Benjamin Constant. A liberalism of the future needs to be prepared to understand, advocate, and fight for freedom in a non-lockdown world. No exceptions.

Which takes us to the final point. Whether this movement is working in the realms of academia, culture, journalism, or politics, there is an absolute urgency that it exercise unrelenting moral courage and integrity. Ferociously. It should be uncompromising on crucial points. It must be willing to speak even when it is unfashionable to do so, even when the media is screaming the opposite, even when the Twitter mob floods your notifications, even when you are shamed for thinking for yourself.

This time around, as you have surely noticed, even the voices of good people with good ideas fell silent in fear. This fear must be banished. The blowback against this despotism will come but it is not enough. We need character, integrity, courage, and truth, and this perhaps matters more than ideology and knowledge. Knowledge without the willingness and courage to speak is useless, because (as E.C. Harwood taught us) for integrity there is no substitute.

In the end, the case for unlocking society is a spiritual matter. What is your life worth and how do you want to live it? How important are the hard-won freedoms you exercise daily? What of the lives and liberties of others? These are everything. Freedom has never prevailed without passionate and courageous voices to defend it. We have the tools now, many more than before. They can throttle us but can’t finally shut us down. The notion that we would fail to speak for fear of the Twitter mob is absurd.

This movement, whether it is called anti-lockdown or just plain liberalism, must reject the wickedness and compulsion of this current moment in American life. It needs to counter the brutalism of lockdowns. It needs to speak and act with humane understanding and high regard for social functioning under freedom, and the hope for the future that comes with it. The enemies of freedom and human rights have revealed themselves for the world to see. Let there be justice. The well-being of us all is at stake.

[Luke Holiday]

Hello Delight,

I feel every word of your post, I feel the frustration, the isolation, the wanting to do something but not knowing what to do, and the depression regarding having to live this new "horribly ABnormal"...I feel it everyday!!!

I posted this recently which may be apropos and provide some reinforcement...

In regards to the Covid 1984 plandemic we are living under...

... there is a solution! In fact there are many solutions! The problem is not in solutions - the problems are in removing the mass programming of the population in order to get them to see the ever present "Yellow brick Road' home.

One of the solutions to stopping the Ruling Elite's nefarious agenda is appropriate, peaceful resistance done repeatedly in mass. If we do not resist - further restrictions, mandates and compulsory vaccinations will follow. I know there are many on this forum who refuse to live in that type of world. (It should be noted that Waves initially created a similar thread several months ago.THIS is that thread)

With that written... I would like this thread to be a repository of articles, videos, stories, thoughts, ideas and concepts related to resisting the Covid 1984 plandemic. I envision these ideas being shared collectively on social media, related community platforms and within PA members sphere of influence in order to foster expedient exponential growth of a "real" resistance movement. If we can create a "Real" resistance movement - I know the momentum will allow us to move away from the planned upcoming orwellian hellish nightmare into the uptopia of our choosing.

It all starts with our individual unwavering belief in knowing that because we are on the side of truth we will prevail, followed by consistent daily commitment to being a beacon of truth, wisdom and unconditional love to those around us. If we remain committed, and continue to correctly/peacefully resist when able, educate when appropriate and remain centered in the spirit of service to others- we will change the collective fields and turn this around - I have no doubt.

Lastly, we must not perceive this as a fight, rather it would be more accurate and empowering to adopt the perception of Transcending this worldwide nightmare -through transforming into the best versions of ourselves...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111599-The-Plandemic-Resistance-thread

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Blessings Luke

[T Smith]

How do you resist an angry mob? What we are dealing with is extremely sophisticated propaganda whose objective is to incite the masses to attack (sometimes literally) and shut down those among us who do resist. The people afflicted by this agitprop are not unlike a giant sleeper cell of foot soldiers recently activated who are wittingly or otherwise carrying out the ruling elite's nefarious agenda. We are not directly resisting TPTB; they sit back and relish the show while we all fight amongst ourselves. We're resisting their army of unconscious foot soldiers who believe they're the informed ones, and you're the problem, you're the unwashed, you're the domestic terrorist. And the more you resist this narrative, the bigger the powder keg becomes, the greater the risk of violence, the shorter the road to physical conflict and civil war.... This is a very dangerous time. Our predicament is not unlike a Chinese finger puzzle: the harder we struggle to escape, the tighter its grip becomes.

I really do scratch my head for ways to counter this catch 22... if someone has any suggestions about what might work I'm all ears.

Until then, welcome to the matrix.... ***disclaimer, the video below is laced with profanity***

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[Delight]

How do you resist an angry mob? What we are dealing with is extremely sophisticated propaganda whose objective is to incite the masses to attack (sometimes literally) and shut down those among us who do resist. The people afflicted by this agitprop are not unlike a giant sleeper cell of foot soldiers recently activated who are wittingly or otherwise carrying out the ruling elite's nefarious agenda. We are not directly resisting TPTB; they sit back and relish the show while we all fight amongst ourselves. We're resisting their army of unconscious foot soldiers who believe they're the informed ones, and you're the problem, you're the the unwashed, you're the domestic terrorist. And the more you resist this narrative, the bigger the powder keg becomes, the greater the risk of violence, the shorter the road to physical conflict and civil war.... This is a very dangerous time. Our predicament here is not unlike a Chinese finger puzzle: the harder we struggle to escape, the tighter its grip becomes.

I really do scratch my head for ways to counter this catch 22... if someone has any suggestions about what might work I'm all ears.

Until then, welcome to the matrix....

t6gVepmUjvw.

I have been very concerned based on the people I actually know that civil war is hurtling towards me.


We are not directly resisting TPTB; they sit back and relish the show while we all fight amongst ourselves. We're resisting their army of unconscious foot soldiers who believe they're the informed ones, and you're the problem, you're the the unwashed, you're the domestic terrorist.

A year ago I would never have dreamed that my formerly closest friend would be angry with me just because I do not hate Trump ( I HATE the system that installed all the presidents of my life time), think a virus (any virus) is not an issue (the issue being the host resilience), think vaccines are dangerous (she vaccinates her dog and her dog is sickly. She receives vaccines herself and thinks all who do not vaccinate are dangers). Given this personal experience in which the "love" between us does not afford any leeway to discuss and disagree, HOW COULD I EXPECT any stranger to allow me to live according to what I think/feel/believe?

Forget trying to talk about objective science to establish the course of our future as that has been so thoroughly "Aliced" that nonsense is considered sense now.

A year ago I thought we could establish CHOICE as the basic right and deal with the issues of concern over time (like with vaccines) but we have been dealt the worst psyop of any EVER.... that asymptomatic people are dangerous and the herd must all be corralled (lockdown), branded (masked) and vaccinated to be allowed to live.

For the moment I am depressed and want to be oblivious but cannot forget these recent matrix experiences.

[palehorse]

How do you resist an angry mob? What we are dealing with is extremely sophisticated propaganda whose objective is to incite the masses to attack (sometimes literally) and shut down those among us who do resist. The people afflicted by this agitprop are not unlike a giant sleeper cell of foot soldiers recently activated who are wittingly or otherwise carrying out the ruling elite's nefarious agenda. We are not directly resisting TPTB; they sit back and relish the show while we all fight amongst ourselves. We're resisting their army of unconscious foot soldiers who believe they're the informed ones, and you're the problem, you're the unwashed, you're the domestic terrorist. And the more you resist this narrative, the bigger the powder keg becomes, the greater the risk of violence, the shorter the road to physical conflict and civil war.... This is a very dangerous time. Our predicament is not unlike a Chinese finger puzzle: the harder we struggle to escape, the tighter its grip becomes.

I really do scratch my head for ways to counter this catch 22... if someone has any suggestions about what might work I'm all ears.

Until then, welcome to the matrix.... ***disclaimer, the video below is laced with profanity***

t6gVepmUjvw.

I like your post, and I ask myself the same question every day now, I have no original answer to that, always the same ideas popping up, like mass protests, boycotts, but all these ideas will hurt the people and not the elite, the ones in power they got everything they need, they own everything, I do not think there is a solution and my guts (who gives a dam about my guts anyway hahaha) says it will end up very bad and divided, people that chose to stay with the system and the resistance that will fight for survive in a very hard way, it does not mean that the ones who chosen to be with the system will have a wonderful life. With the advancement of robotics in the military and police, it will become total enslavement, controlled, whoever disagree will be eliminated, the human being worth nothing in the eyes of the beast.
I wish we could do better, but the way it is going down south pretty quickly, without some powerful intervention I really think it is a game over.

[onawah]

Rally in Berlin!
AUGUST 11, 2020
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/rally-in-berlin/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=2011da54-312b-41dc-85d8-8e1d50c86e28
Children's Health Defense
(This is encouraging, and it will be very fitting indeed if the German people are the ones leading the way for the rest of the world, having learned the lessons of history.)

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/08-07-20-Germany-Rally-Large_Featured_Image.jpg

"A Letter From a Friend in Germany

Dear Mr. Kennedy and CHD,

As you have already heard, there was a massive protest in Berlin August 1, 2020. I have been waiting to report on it until I had a complete picture about it and what happened afterwards.

Health freedom was a big part of the protest — more and more people are waking up to the fact that they do not want to be guinea pigs for Gates’ experimental vaccine. But it was also mainly about our freedom and human rights, against draconian measures put on us by the government, against lockdown, social distancing and masks.

The numbers that were reported vary greatly. The mainstream media in collusion with the Berlin mayor tried everything to cover up and lie about it. They snapped a picture of the “protest” in the early morning, many, many hours before it actually began and used this picture to say there were “17,000 people” at the protest. The mayor himself told police that the people were acting “against the democratic principle” (?) and ordered police to end it. Mainstream media proclaimed many hours before the protest that it was made up of a few crazy “Nazis, conspiracy theorists and corona-deniers” then dispersed by the police.

What actually happened
People – normal people—concerned citizens, mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, doctors, lawyers, business owners – streamed to Berlin by the hundreds of thousands—the official numbers from the police were 800,000 to 1.3 million, with 2-3 million people in the general vicinity.

People attending said that the energy was unbelievable and felt like “a bomb of light and love and peace and freedom” had exploded in Berlin.

In the afternoon, police came to end the protest, because “people hadn’t been adhering to distancing and wearing masks.” (Apparently this hadn’t been a problem at the BLM demos in Germany, but I guess it matters now what exactly you are protesting.) The other thing “they” did in Berlin was to interfere with everyone’s phones and cameras, so that it seemed like the protest could not be live-streamed to contradict the media narrative. But one of the organizers came from Switzerland, and his phone, for some reason, was not affected. So he live-streamed the whole protest. Even now, there is massive censorship on Youtube about the real protest images and facts.

Many hours after mainstream media had already announced it, police actually did end the protest by cutting off electricity and carrying the organizers and speakers off the stage. Two of them were arrested later, as well as some protestors, but everyone was set free, as the police had no grounds to hold them. Two lawyers co-organized the protest and made sure that nothing untoward happened. Some police acted very reluctantly that day which you can see on the police officer’s face in the video below, when he had to tell the protestors to go home. People were telling him that he didn’t have to do this; they were all there for him and his family, too, and if he did the right thing, he would go down in history as a hero. He visibly struggled for a couple minutes, but made the announcement in the end. He later said: “I was only following orders”. I think we have all heard that one before.
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“We’re staying here!”
Protestors all sat down on the ground and would not leave, chanting “We’re staying here!” A part of them then proceeded to the main government building in a “human chain” and chanted “Angela, dein Volk ist da!” (“Angela, your people are here!”).

Everything was mostly peaceful, which was a big goal of the organizers—their motto was “Resist like Ghandi”. Although there were some Antifa activists there to start trouble among the protestors, and some young police officers sent to ”use violence” against some of the organizers and protestors, overall the day was calm.

The organizers themselves (“Querdenken”) were absolutely overwhelmed by the sheer number of people (at least a million in their words), as they had hoped for 500,000 tops.

They will keep organizing these protests all over Germany. The weekend of August 8-9 there were demonstrations in Stuttgart.

Politicians were panicked at the Berlin protest. It takes a lot for Germans to get off the couch and take to the streets — and no one expected those numbers.

In the aftermath, politicians are demanding that our basic human right to free and peaceful protest be severely restricted “in times of a nationwide pandemic” – We will see if that happens.

Here is the video from someone who filmed the march from a bridge for over an hour:
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Which brings me to my next topic: There have been leaks from “government insiders” that the “second wave and lockdown” are already planned for mid September, and they will go on for much longer than the first. We can see politicians and media already preparing the public for this, blaming rising case numbers (due to mandatory testing) on the protests, on people returning from holidays, and people not wearing masks in public (when most people do).

The next protest in Berlin is scheduled for Saturday, August 29. I understand that people elsewhere in Europe are organizing protests as well. What about in the US? Will you join us?

Thank you so much for taking the time to read all of this.

Be safe and God bless,

A friend in Germany"

[Delight]

Loyalty patriotism and duty make people blind to atrocity

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[Luke Holiday]

Hot off the press from PJW of infowars

In Sweden, Where There Was No Lockdown, COVID Cases & Deaths Have Slowed to a Trickle
Print Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars store
Death rate lower than Spain, the UK and Italy – economy in better shape.

Paul Joseph Watson
PrisonPlanet.com
August 11, 2020

Confounding claims by many that its open society approach to coronavirus would spectacularly backfire, Sweden, which didn’t enforce any mandatory lockdown order, has seen its coronavirus cases and deaths slow to a trickle.

Back in March, when Sweden announced that it would adopt a different approach to much of the rest of the world by refusing to shut down its economy and instead aim for herd immunity, public health experts and media commentators were aghast at the decision, warning that the country’s hospitals would be overwhelmed with COVID victims.

Summing up the attitude towards Sweden’s approach, Danish journalist Lisbeth Davidsen said it was “like watching a horror movie.”

Fast forward five months and the horror show predicted by many has completely failed to materialize.

While fears of a “second wave” of coronavirus continue to plague other European countries that completely locked down and enforced draconian face mask rules, Sweden has recorded barely a trickle of COVID cases and deaths so far in August.

Jordan Schachtel drills into the numbers;

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In August, Sweden has registered just one death (!) with/from the coronavirus. Yes, you read that correctly. One death so far.

For the month of July, Sweden reported 226 deaths. They’ve accounted for 805 June deaths, 1646 in May, and 2572 in April. The deaths attributed to COVID-19 went from about a 50% reduction to falling off of a cliff.

The story is the same in the hospitals. COVID-19 is hardly registering as a blip on the radar. Sweden has reported just 4 new COVID-19 patients in their ICUs in August. The month of July saw only 52 COVID-19 patients in ICUs.

It doesn’t take a math whiz to come to the conclusion that the epidemic appears to have been wrapped up in Sweden for months. It’s unclear whether this is a result of having achieved the herd immunity threshold, or if the seasonality of the virus is providing indefinite relief. But it’s become absolutely clear that Sweden’s long term pandemic strategy is working.

Asserting that “there is no evidence anywhere in the world that lockdowns or masks have *stopped* the spread of the virus,” Schachtel notes how public health experts “disregarding hundreds of years of proven science on herd immunity” who mandated lockdowns are responsible for the economic catastrophe which the world will now suffer.

As Newsweek acknowledged last week, Sweden’s COVID-19 death rate is lower than those of Spain, the UK and Italy, countries which all imposed lockdowns.
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Sweden’s GDP fall of 8.6 in Q2 2020 is also significantly less severe than the 12.1 average experienced in the Eurozone, leaving the Scandinavian country in “much better shape than the rest of Europe.”

As we highlighted yesterday, the lockdowns will plunge at least a hundred million people into extreme poverty.

Add the deaths caused by this to those caused by untreated cancers and other illnesses and we’re looking at deaths caused by lockdown easily outstripping those officially attributed to coronavirus.

So what was the point of lockdown? Control, vaccine agenda, implementation of new financial system, allow for uninterrupted 5 G tower construction, etc...

Blessings Luke

Remember if you live in Sweden or South Dakota:

1. You could go anywhere without a face nappi
2. Your local gyms, pubs, parks, beaches would be open
3. You could shake hands, and hug without reservation; Do you still remember what that was like?
4. Your children could go to school and not be traumatized by hazmat precautions for a virus that has not been proven to exist.
5. You would not be facing mandatory vaccinations.
6. You would not have to deal with Corona Karens :)


Interesting how capricious this virus really is: It appears the effects of the "virus" are not a matter of contagiousness or lethality - rather, the effects are really just a simple matter of geography...

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Blessings Luke

[Agape]

One plausible reason for why there are few cases in countries like Sweden or Switzerland is that people have followed rather stringent hygiene protocol for long now so have good practice in it and also, it is rather in norm to keep decent social distances.

It’s probably unclear to many “hugging cultures” how does that work for your psyche but it allows lots of free personal space.

This is no way a recipe to attack any culture at all but a mere truthful observation of facts.

All over the world many people still struggle with simple hygienic rules such as washing hands, taking shoes off, daily showers etc. and many by their own decision or following some “new world advice” about washing too much is dangerous for you.

Sure it’s possible to do in outright natural, pristine conditions and environments. Even then our ancestors returned to civilised lifestyle mostly by the virtue of washing.

In the mixed soup of chemicals and pathogens we now live in, not to mention asbestos walls and micro plastic beads, we are living organisms and intelligent beings to protect and decide our fates.

The world “out there” isn’t clean anymore if you care to open your eyes instead pretending those piles of garbage are “in norm” or shipping them by tons to “third..world..countries”. Yeah ouch. We are part of the third world too ...🐘...we all are. It’s on your TV but seeping through the channels at the same time.
Don’t look away and you will see where does it all come from.


Eyes open - no fear


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[Luke Holiday]

The title speaks for itself.

Title: 640 European Doctors Gather to Discuss the Overreaction to COVID and How It’s Damaging Society: Because it is a cabal engineered global scam...Now let us pray more physicians begin to obey their hippocratic oath and begin resisting in mass....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn0V5uItsVc

Blessings Luke

[onawah]

RFKennedy Jr. in Berlin
From his FB page today 8/28/20:
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Robert F. Kennedy, Jr
"In Berlin launching Children's Health Defense Europe. In photo with organizers Dr. Heiko Schoening, M.D. and Attorneys Markus Haintz and Rolf Karpenstein in front of Brandenburg Gate where my uncle President John F. Kennedy gave his famous “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech in 1963. Tomorrow, I will speak to the largest crowd in German history. We are expecting more than 1 million people from every nation in Europe protesting Bill Gates’s bio security agenda, the rise of the authoritarian surveillance state and the Pharma sponsored coup d’etat against liberal democracy. Berlin, Berlin wir fahren nach Berlin!"

AUGUST 28, 2020
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Holds a Press Conference in Berlin After Launching CHD’s Europe Chapter
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-holds-a-press-conference-in-berlin-after-launching-chds-europe-chapter/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=d2ce4134-97a8-4be6-901d-cd2864f0d378
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[Arcturian108]

I posted this also on the Australian coronavirus thread, but it belongs here too. Australians who are pushing back are planning rallies in all the major cities on September 5th:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hakORS9kon0

[Delight]

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[ByTheNorthernSea]

An inspired David Icke at yesterday's Trafalgar Square anti-lockdown protest...

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After many years of ridicule, this was his moment...

[Brigantia]

I couldn't find a more appropriate thread for this, it's not strictly related to The Lurgy but the Gilets Jaunes are back on the streets of Paris. It looked quite peaceful to me but the cops lobbed tear gas at them. I don't know how they get away with that, Britain's woke police would probably have to write up a huge report if they used tear gas; at it stands now they have to do a 20 page report if they use any form of physical contact on a member of the public.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiVxk3_r88o

[Andre]

I found this article extremely well written and researched. It's all about what the strategy is behind COVID. See what you think:

COVID Psychological Stress Being Applied to Break Resistance to Vaccine

Published 11 September 2020 By Makia Freeman
https://thefreedomarticles.com/covid-psychological-stress-applied-break-resistance-vaccine/

COVID psychological stress is being coldly and calculatedly applied to the entire world population as many nations enter their 6th or 7th month of coronavirus lockdowns and restrictions. Operation Coronavirus is, first and foremost, a psychological operation (psy op). It’s about fooling you with stories of a killer virus by exploiting the widely held but incomplete concept of germ theory. It’s about tricking you into thinking there are enemies out there – even tiny invisible enemies whose existence has never been proven – against which you need protection, kindly provided to you by Big Pharma and Big Government. It’s about conditioning you into accepting the horrific reality of current society – masks, social distancing, isolation, quarantines, lockdowns, deep fear, plus the violation of unalienable, sovereign, inherent human rights – as the New Normal. It’s about cracking you with COVID psychological stress until you break down, defeated, and acquiesce to the planned solution all along of surveillance and vaccines, in a desperate attempt to return to normal, healthy and free life of unconstrained social interaction.

COVID Psychological Stress

In recent months many free and powerful voices have pointed out that the draconian restrictions, resulting in what I am calling COVID psychological stress, are in fact akin to torture methods refined by organizations and agencies such as the CIA. All the lockdown policies – social distancing, quarantine, mandatory mask-wearing, isolation, fear of contagion, fear of everyone being a suspected asymptomatic carrier, being unable to visit elderly family members in person, and more – are forms of torture. By deeming things such as concerts, sports, pubs, bars, clubs and other forms of entertainment as “non-essential”, governments have been able to restrict, ban and/or permanently shut down businesses and organizations running such facilities and activities. The idea is to stop people from relaxing and blowing off steam, thus increasing the pressure and stress. Then, with everyone under this low-grade stress, some people will inevitably crack, due to economic and psychological manipulation, and either commit crime, lash at those around them, commit suicide or come begging to the government to save them.

Munchausen Syndrome and Stockholm Syndrome

Along these lines, it is worth understanding the concept of Munchausen syndrome. This is a factitious disorder, a mental disorder in which a person repeatedly and deliberately acts as if he or she has a physical or mental illness when he or she is not really sick. This video introduces the idea that an aspect of Munchausen syndrome is the parent who gets so much attention from having a sick child that they deliberately make them sick. That is a fitting description of the COVID situation – government officials acting as though the entire population of citizens are contagious and dangerous, and pretending they are doctors and the rest of the citizenry are their patients. It’s a sick and twisted psychological game, and in fact, as Jon Rappoport points out in a recent article How Many People Have ‘Psychological COVID?’, may even lead to people ‘acquiring’ what they think is ‘COVID’ just through false belief, via convincing themselves that they have the virus when they don’t.

Munchausen syndrome is one thing, but Stockholm syndrome is something else. It describes the psychological phenomenon whereby captured, entrapped or enslaved people grow feelings of affection and appreciation for their captors. They develop an attachment to, loyalty for or even a perverse love for their oppressors. Why? One explanation is because they see no other option; on a subconscious level, the surreal world they inhabit makes no sense at all unless their rulers are omniscient and benevolent. So, they convince themselves that their leaders must be right. In many ways, we are suffering from societal Stockholm syndrome.

The Roots of COVID Psychological Stress are Steeped in Torture

The article Children Have 0.00% Chance of Dying from COVID but are Harmed for Life by Social Distancing, Which has its Roots in CIA Torture Techniques, written by Brian Shilhavy and based on a video Leigh Dundas, exposes the torturous background behind isolation, which is the basis for things such as solitary confinement:

Here are some lesser known facts about social distancing and isolation:

• It was developed 70 years ago by the CIA to break down enemies of state.
• It is the equivalent of smoking 15 cigarettes a day AND being an alcoholic.
• It doubles the risk of death, and destroys the part of the brain responsible for learning.

It continues:

“… social isolation is a human rights violation – which is on par with torture and other war crimes. Indeed, social isolation is the primary protocol deployed against enemies in times of war, regardless of time period or country in question. This is due in large part to the fact that it is so successful in psychologically destroying the individual, without need of more bloody and difficult physical interventions. The studies of social isolation against enemies of state began in the 1950’s and 1960’s by the CIA:

It has long been the custom of captors, police, and inquisitors, to isolate their prisoners. But which of these methods, Hinkle asked, is most effective?

All the standard interrogation techniques have varying… impacts on the brain’s functioning…. [But] of all the possible techniques, isolation is the ideal way of “breaking down” a prisoner…”

Already, we are seeing the effect of just a few weeks of social isolation on students: teen suicides have risen, and last week, OC Sheriff’s reported a 25% increase in domestic violence calls, a 24% increase in family disputes, and a 30% increase in child custody calls. So deleterious are these effects that in recent years the United Nations promulgated what have come to be called the Mandela rules. These rules prohibit social isolation for longer than 15 days, noting that any longer period of social isolation “constitutes cruel, degrading and inhumane treatment, or torture.” Other organizations, like the American Psychiatric Association, have held similarly. Perhaps most ironic, what cold hard science shows is that social isolation employed continuously – as California is suggesting doing – will actually undermine the alleged health goals because such isolation depresses the immune system.”

In this video, Amazing Polly proposes that what we are being put through with draconian COVID restrictions is a near perfect parallel to the Amnesty International definition of torture and Biderman’s ‘Chart of Coercion.’ Additionally, this video clip highlights how sensory deprivation (a by-product of COVID restrictions which promote isolation) can lead to increased susceptibility to persuasion. Think about that for a minute – increased susceptibility to persuasion. Isn’t that precisely what governments have always wanted, a docile, compliant and obedient population that can be moulded in the way they wish?

Halloween Canceled, Christmas Cancelled, No Work at the Office Until You’re Vaxxed

The plan is nothing if not blatant. All around the world, local, regional and national leaders keep reading their lines from the script. Recently Los Angeles in California announced they would be cancelling Halloween, despite the fact it’s around 50 days away and they couldn’t possibly know the status of the virus then (and that’s assuming you even buy the mainstream narrative). It appears they are now backtracking that, but only because enough people stood up and refused to accept it. In a similar vein, UK PM Boris Johnson is psychologically preparing the British people that Christmas may be cancelled this year. To cancel traditional social events like Halloween and Christmas is more coldly calculated manipulation aiming to increase COVID psychological stress. The endgame, just as Bill Gates keeps repeating ad nauseam, is no return to normalcy until 7+ billion people are vaccinated, which is being echoed by the Corporatocracy too (e.g. Netflix CEO Reed Hastings who stated that there will be no return to work in the offices until employees are vaccinated). Finally, the NWO (New World Order) controllers have a backup plan if their blackmail-manipulation via stress doesn’t persuade the masses to get the shot: bribery. Globalist think tank The Brookings Institute recently ran an article suggesting that the USG pay each American $1000 to take the COVID vaccine. Vaccines are inherently toxic and dangerous, and this goes all the more for the pending COVID vaccines, where in some cases clinical trials have been stopped after participants fell ill, and where we must be prepared for the possibility they are implanted with nanotechnology, e.g. hydrogel implants.

Perpetual Fear Lowers Our Intelligence and Immunity

As the article The Caustic Wages Of Perpetual Fear states, the kind of long-term, chronic, low-grade fear we are being subjected to can have a devastating effect on us:

“I’m going to quote from Sapolsky, who is one of the best neuroscientists of our time … “During sustained stress, we’re more fearful, our thinking is muddled, we assess risks poorly, and act impulsively out of habit, rather than incorporating new data.” … “Stress weakens connections that are essential for incorporating new information that should prompt shifting to a new strategy—while strengthening connections with habitual brain circuits.” In other words, fear locks you into your habits and your previous choices. It literally diminishes the brain pathways that allow you to change your mind …“Under sustained stress we process emotionally prominent information rapidly and automatically, but less accurately. Working memory, impulse control, decision-making, risk-assessment and task shifting are impaired.” Again, prolonged fear locks people into whatever path they’re already on. And again, this is biological. The brain circuits are directly affected.”

Make no mistake about it – this is a war of attrition and the NWO conspirators are in for the long haul. They are going to keep milking this manufactured crisis and keep pushing it as far as they can, to bring people to such exasperation and exhaustion that they willingly line up to get the vaccine: “I’ll do anything not to keep having to wear this stupid mask and not being able to breathe properly. Fine – just gimme the damn vaccine and leave me alone!”

Final Thoughts

2020 has been thus far the Year of Fear. We need to accept the cold hard truth: COVID psychological stress is deliberately being applied and extended in order to produce conditions ripe for vaccine acceptance. We are all being stewed in a pressure cooker, designed to mentally and emotionally break people down. The point of this article is to raise awareness of what is happening so that we can rise above it. It is not predetermined; it is not a fait accompli. We do not have to submit to further violations of our bodily integrity and our medical sovereignty. We can see the scheme for what it is. We can take every moment we can to socialize, bond, dance, touch, have fun and connect; in other words, to be fully human in the face of this sinister dehumanizing agenda. Some of already risen up, and I suspect once authorities attempt to roll out the vaccine in the next 2-3 months, they will wake a sleeping giant, and many more will rise to defend the spirit of truth and freedom throughout the world. Please spread this article far and wide to help make that happen.

About the Author

Makia Freeman is the editor of alternative media / independent news site The Freedom Articles, author of the book Cancer: The Lies, the Truth and the Solutions and senior researcher at ToolsForFreedom.com. Makia is on Steemit and Parler.

Sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMRys3gxiZU
https://www.wakingtimes.com/2020/09/04/how-many-people-have-psychological-covid/
https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/children-have-0-00-chance-of-dying-from-covid-but-are-harmed-for-life-by-social-distancing-which-has-its-roots-in-cia-torture-techniques/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hotgujv3cPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh-C69slLtk
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-09-09/no-trick-or-treating-in-los-angeles-county
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2020/09/09/pm-cannot-say-whether-families-will-be-able-to-celebrate-christm/
https://thefreedomarticles.com/bill-gates-no-mass-gatherings-unless-youre-vaccinated/
https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/8/21426956/netflix-ceo-reed-hastings-return-to-office-vaccine-working-from-home-negative
https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/want-herd-immunity-pay-people-to-take-the-vaccine/
https://thefreedomarticles.com/toxic-vaccine-adjuvants-the-top-10/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54082192
https://thefreedomarticles.com/hydrogel-biosensor-darpa-gates-implantable-nanotech-covid-vaccine/
https://www.technocracy.news/the-caustic-wages-of-perpetual-fear/

[Tintin]

As a part of the greater citizen pushback to restrictions on peoples' freedoms and certain inalienable rights it may be possible that all governments that propose to mandate mask wearing and vaccinations are breaching the Nuremberg Code of 1947.

Here's a link to that: http://www.cirp.org/library/ethics/nuremberg/

Permissible Medical Experiments
The great weight of the evidence before us to effect that certain types of medical experiments on human beings, when kept within reasonably well-defined bounds, conform to the ethics of the medical profession generally. The protagonists of the practice of human experimentation justify their views on the basis that such experiments yield results for the good of society that are unprocurable by other methods or means of study. All agree, however, that certain basic principles must be observed in order to satisfy moral, ethical and legal concepts:

1.The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.

The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs, or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.

2.The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.

3.The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results justify the performance of the experiment.

4.The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.

5.No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.

6.The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.

7.Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability or death.

8.The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.

9.During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.

10.During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him, that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
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There's also this: http://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Universal_Declaration_on_Bioethics_and_Human_Rights_2005%20%5Bsee_Page%2074%5D

Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights

Item 36 on Page 74 of the pdf (appears on the 80th page of the document)

[pueblo]

As a part of the greater citizen pushback to restrictions on peoples' freedoms and certain inalienable rights it may be possible that all governments that propose to mandate mask wearing and vaccinations are breaching the Nuremberg Code of 1947.


Seeing as no country has ratified the code in law I wouldn't hold much hope of any government recognising or acting to remedy any breach of this code, though most of the world's governments are indeed imo, in breach of the code.

[Old Student]

The code refers to medical experiments. It is a specific doctrine addressing a specific issue -- that medical "experiments" were done by the Nazis on their incarcerated concentration camp internees as a form of torture.

The code is from international humanitarian law -- which is the law of war, and applies during armed conflict. Only.

The government requiring wearing masks and requiring vaccinations is neither something occurring in a state of war nor an experiment. The prohibition of medical experiments, in its modern and binding form, is in the Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols, and has nothing to do with measures taken in peacetime on uninterned people during a pandemic.

As a medical, I can put a mask with oxygen on you and perform CPR on you without your consent if you are unconscious because of a life-threatening situation. I can do that fully within the law, regardless of Nuremberg or any other international convention.

Public health authorities have the power to enforce quarantines and always have. It is not an abrogation of your civil rights, it is an acknowledgement that your "civil rights" do not allow you to threaten the lives of others -- in this case by willfully spreading a potentially lethal disease.

[Gwin Ru]

As a part of the greater citizen pushback to restrictions on peoples' freedoms and certain inalienable rights...[...]Well, if I understand what Greg Hallett uncovered recently (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111045-Gregory-Joseph-Hallett-the-real-king-of-England.-Explosive-Stuff-&p=1376840&viewfull=1#post1376840), the people of the UK haven't been citizens nor subjects but chatttel since 1688... and I suspect similar loopholes are buried under tons of dust for other European countries.

[Delight]

100's of people in Kansas gathering with no Masks

PUSHBACK IS GATHERING

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[Old Student]

I might add to what I posted earlier. At an event, we were called to a scene where a young child had a headache. The thing is, young children don't usually get headaches, excepting from getting hit in the head. The highest ranking of us there, and therefore in charge of the scene, immediately put an N-95 on the child and backed everyone away. He did so quite legally, without the consent to treat from the child's parents, or worrying about any bystander's, healthcare worker or otherwise, right to freedom of movement, or any other authority except public health. The child was then asked if she could touch her chin to her chest. On passing that test, we then moved forward to ask for consent and then treat the child.

The point is, meningitis is sufficiently dangerous, and sufficiently communicable, and is of sufficiently high risk as a cause of a childhood headache, that the public health outweighed any other rights or protocols until it was established.

It's a true story, some identifying information has been altered or omitted on purpose to allow it to be told.

Public health can easily override any other medical protocols and can also easily override other so called rights, for the duration of an emergency. Just like being a danger to oneself or others can be grounds for putting someone in a locked ward for evaluation, some diseases all the time -- meningitis, tuberculosis -- and some temporarily, can become public health emergencies during which everything up to and including quarantine are quite legal and in the public good.

[Gwin Ru]

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Larken Rose Leave Audience Speechless (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=213567)

By wmw_admin (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?author=1) on September 15, 2020

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[Hermoor]

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[sunwings]

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I just came across this short clip from 11 years ago. If we swap Swine flu for CV 19 then the similarities are scary. She talks about the world being put into quarantine before we are all forced to have a vaccine which will micro chip us. This week Europe was put back into lockdown, the pressure is mounting on the people again! But the real fight will be against the vaccine for sure!

[greybeard]

Irish doctor interview: "The Price Of Truth". Witness.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WbKl2gPo4Y

A compassionate and emotionally charged interview with a brave Irish doctor, one who tried to speak up. To speak up for a balanced and proportionate response to this challenging viral issue.
Compassion. Rationality. Logic. Science. And more - those virtues that seemed to suddenly disappear in 2020.
Can we bring them back, before it is too late?

Video credit David Poland of @RylandMedia - this interview sent to me by Health Freedom Ireland @HealthFreedomIE