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TheCougarandEagle
12th January 2011, 22:42
From the words of Hitler......... " I do not need the peoples compliance, all I need is there FEAR."

What is the Lesson on Earth, as a SOUL or as a Man? To learn to LOVE the Creator and thy neighbour. Every relgion accounts for this in its own way by the GOLDEN RULE.

Why does negative judgement against the illuminati or Reptialians or any negative person, why is it not justified and work against them?

I have studied this problem for many years. And at first I was very confused. Judgement against another is a thought wave. Who is the Creator of the thought wave, (the one who places judgement on another.) And in that judgement thought wave, being the Creator of it, it will one day return to you perhaps in another incarnation.
If one is sexually or phyically or mentaly or emotionally abused. And that one cannot forgive, and hates the abuser for the rest of his life. Then being the Creator of that hate, one in the next life shall become what one hates intently. He shall become the abuser. Sad however I beileve this is true. And if this person who was abused in some way, could account other lives, it would likely be true that in those lives he or she abused the now abuser.
It is also true for what one loves. What one Loves in the next life he shall become. Or in this life.
Place judgement on another, how sad it is, you are the Creator of that judgement upon the other, and therefore responsible for it. It will come back upon you at some time.
What you truely "hate" or what you truely "Love" as the Creator of that energy, you put in motion what you will become one day.
It is not my RULE. It is the RULE of the Creator who put us here to LEARN how to Love. It cannot sometimes be understood by man, but it is understood by the SOUL.
Take things as LESSONS. Circumstance good or bad,........accept them as lessons and gain Wisdom from them.
Why does hate and fear not work? The first line of this post should give you enough information as to why. And we are ALL ONE. when you hate them, or fear them you are actually hateing and fearing something WITHIN YOURSELF.
LOVE is the only answer. UNCONDITIONAL, PURE, LOVE to the SOUL AND SPIRIT OF THE OTHER. This is what EVERY MASTER of every Relgion has tried to teach in some way or other. It is more potent more powerful and is the only thing that will place the ones in NEGATIVE POWER, to become what they were ment to be. The SERVENTS of HUMANITY instead of the Masters of humanity. This Planet has reversed itself by its own FREEDOM OF CHOICE. By OUR OWN WILL.
To Surrender completely or in stages to the WILL OF THE CREATOR AND LOVE HIM WITH ALL THY HEART.
Then as the Law of Love says, you SHALL BECOME WHAT YOU LOVE.
Again this is what Each MASTER of every Relgion has taught. They had universal wisdom and understanding .........learn from them.
Bill Ryan is Right. Not to judge, or hate or fear the enemy. Treat it as a lesson.
UNCONDITIONAL LOVE is the only TRUE ANSWER. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE AS PURE BEINGS ARE. UNCONDITIONAL LOVE & PEACE. And what the phyical man is not which I beileve is somewhat the reverse of Pure Being or Soul.
John William Payne.............Starseed.

HORIZONS
12th January 2011, 22:53
Everything begets after its own kind: therefore Judgement begets more judgement - Hate begets more hate - Fear begets more fear - and Love, even though not received, begets more love - but each individual being must work this out in their own life and time. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with Love.
~PEACE~

TheCougarandEagle
12th January 2011, 23:00
Thankyou Horizons. Said with wisdom.

conk
19th January 2011, 20:18
How do you resist fear, hate, and other negative emotions? Don't feed them! Focus your consciousness on love and gratitude, and fear, hate, and doubt will evaporate. They can only persist with our permission. So many of us live in an imaginary world of worry and fear. Of course much of this is pushed upon us by authorities who would control us. Don't give them your energy! Live in the instant moment, savoring life's many, many blessings.

And yes, forgiveness is extremely powerful. Acceptance too. The universe is perfect in it's creation, so don't fight it - create a different one in the next instant.

TheCougarandEagle
19th January 2011, 21:55
Thankyou Conk

greybeard
19th January 2011, 22:06
Judgment hate and fear are all characteristics of the ego.
Try as you will you will no be able to consistently love forgive etc without transcending the ego.
Surrender is necessary at a very deep level.
There must be an awareness of every thought word and deed that has a personal agenda.
The juice that is got from these positions must be surrendered to the Creator.
In humility I of my self can not do this, I do not have the spiritual power or wisdom.

Great thread

Chris

TheCougarandEagle
20th January 2011, 04:49
Thankyou Chris

Anchor
20th January 2011, 06:02
I worked this out over the past few months - my current thinking is that I maintain that there are only two things you need to be concerned about: you and everything that isn't you, in other words you and them.

In this model, the only judgement that you should make is when you judge yourself.

Judging "them" will end up being a judgement of "you" - only more complicated in its workings because it is reflected.

Judgements from them about you need not be taken to heart... and treated simply as advice!

The reason for this is that we are all equal in the eyes of the one infinite creator. No one is higher or below another - and we, for ourselves are sovereign.

Life is good.

John..

MargueriteBee
20th January 2011, 06:15
Is that why we are to love our enemies?

TheCougarandEagle
20th January 2011, 06:34
Thankyou John.
MargueiteBee, it is questionable because you sentence perhaps has too meanings. 1. To show Love to the Spirit and Soul of our enemies, means that the hate they send will be returned to them with our Love energy. It perhaps too in some sense protects us spiritually. Our enemy grows out of our own spiritual love energy. But as for who we truely Love, the second meaning do we Love our enemies no, we Love the Creator with all our heart and might. We see our enemies as a lesson that we should not do perhaps. I hope I have not made it too complicated. John

Anchor
20th January 2011, 10:10
Is that why we are to love our enemies?

I think so.


We see our enemies as a lesson that we should not do perhaps. I hope I have not made it too complicated.

This is actually a complicated subject I think - so I don't see how you can avoid it.

At the highest perspective, one that acknowledges we are all one, in fragmented parts, then you would love your neighbour (even one who is an enemy) as yourself because to do otherwise would be hating yourself.

As you come away from that lofty simplicity things get more distorted by polarity, illusionary separateness, individuality, barriers, differences - it gets complicated.

Where we are most of the time in our waking lives, we may strive to love even our enemies, but it is quite hard to do that when you see what they do - when you know what damage they have done and the hurt and pain caused.

Is not the perception of an "enemy" notion a kind of open and unhealed wound? If an enemy is active, you are still engaged in battle (even if in your own mind). Ceasefire - requires complete and multilateral forgiveness - which slams the brakes on the wheel of karma. From there the wounds can heal.

Regardless of the situation you find yourself in - always remember that we exist in the love and the light of the one infinite creator; asides from ourselves there are countless millions of beings watching with baited breath as our Earthly drama unfolds at this important time. Most of the people on this forum will have at least an emergent awareness of their important role in these times on Earth. The point is - the love with which each of us is bathed, the encouragement to work through this successfully and the help given when asked is staggering. Call them guides, angels, ascended beings, masters, avatars, Good ET's whatever works for you!

Just ask - and in doing so free these helpers from the constraints of the absolute prohibition on the violation of freewill that ties their helping hands.

With such help - any injustice can be bought to balance, and the distortions smoothed to harmony.

"Treat everything as a lesson"

Which is perfect. Everything has a reason, and the lesson is the reason. For me this is why we live.

I am eternally grateful for the learning catalyst offered to me in my life - and the more I see it this way, the easier it is to work through.

As we learn we teach, and as we teach we learn.

My thanks to TheCougarandEagle for starting this thread - it has hit a note loud and clear.

Awesome - life is good!

John..

joedjemal
20th January 2011, 10:22
Is that why we are to love our enemies?

I went to talk with a Jesuit once and at the end of the conversation I said to him "The reason you are commanded to love one another is that one way or another you will get to experience all of it. Why make it a hell?"

Celine
20th January 2011, 10:27
Love is the great experiment.

Love activates our Higher self..maybe it affects the DNA as well.

i often get "teased" (or talked beind my back) about how wishy washy and full of "love" i can be.

but i am not being anything other then true to myself when i say ...i love you

My heart loves ALL beings.. all life..in every sense..


Passionately...completely... i surrender to what i truly am.

conk
21st January 2011, 19:25
Love is the great experiment.

Love activates our Higher self..maybe it affects the DNA as well.

i often get "teased" (or talked beind my back) about how wishy washy and full of "love" i can be.

but i am not being anything other then true to myself when i say ...i love you

My heart loves ALL beings.. all life..in every sense..


Passionately...completely... i surrender to what i truly am. Isn't this the essence of it all? Salute!

TheCougarandEagle
21st January 2011, 20:55
Thankyou everyone who made a comment.
Another way perhaps less complicated to say this without the complecties of duality and mirror images almost like the thought energy and everything we think is mathematically bound and has to conform to the rules of energy which it does. This is a more simple way to look at it.
Are we going to feed our enemy the illuminati with our own Fear and hate and negative emotions?
Or are we going to begin to bring them to the light by filtering love into there souls and spirits thus changing them for the better and protecting ourselves at the same time.
Don't move against the Creators laws of energy move with it.

de rien
23rd January 2011, 03:11
Great reads! I would suggest to someone wanting to take charge of their emotions, reality creation and love-giving; to harness their thoughts by not allowing any negative thought to penetrate. No matter how harmless the negative thought may be, take notice of it and reverse it with a positive one. Once you become aware of ALL of your thoughts on a daily basis, it becomes easier and easier to boot them out and only allow positive ones to take seed. I have been doing this the past few months and my life has drastically changed. My friends, family and co-workers have all noticed as well. I am happier, I have more energy and reality creation is more attainable.

TheCougarandEagle
24th January 2011, 00:52
Thankyou De rien