View Full Version : Brazil's President Bolsonaro's legacy and values
Tomkoyote
26th May 2020, 18:10
FF to 3:30
First time I hear a president speak as a citizen, no politics, no BS. He deserves my respect.
https://www.brighteon.com/786c0c7d-1060-4fb3-8c78-b54b15ac44f4
Kryztian
26th May 2020, 20:20
I can't think of a more repulsive, despotic head of state at the moment than Jair Bolsonaro. He comes from a long line of violent, dictatorial, brutalitarian political leaders. Brazil is the world leader in inequality, a country that has so much wealth in it's resources, with just a few people enjoying it and mostly living in dire poverty. Bolsonaro is doing his part to make sure the working poor stay illiterate and have hard lives while a small elite reap most of the benefits of this wealth.
From 1964 to 1985 Brazil was a military dictatorship. Bolsonaro thinks this is the preferred form of government during which Brazil enjoyed "20 years of order and progress." He also stated that "the error of the dictatorship was that it tortured, but did not kill."
In 1999 he said that Brazil could solve it's problems by "killing thirty thousand people, beginning with Fernando Henrique Cardoso." Cardoso was the elected president.
His long list of anti-woman beliefs includes his statement that women should be paid less than men. He criticized Maria do Rosário, Brazil's former human right's representative, by saying she was "not worth raping; she is very ugly". The long list of homophobic things he has said is also jaw dropping.
He has worked against the freedom of the press, threatening Brazil's most famous journalist, Glenn Greenwald and others.
Many authoritarian, fascist and psychopathic politicians have said things about "freedom" and "the people" that have inspired many people, but you better look a little further to get a sense of who they really are and figure out what kind of legacy they are going to leave behind.
Kryztian
26th May 2020, 20:47
Here are a few links where you can read more about this vile elitist president Jair Bolsonaro.
Why Glenn Greenwald’s Prosecution Is an Outrage
Advocacy groups say attacks on the press are on the rise—particularly in Bolsonaro’s Brazil.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/greenwald-brazil-bolsonaro-press/
How Bolsinaro is threatening journalism and ending free speech.
Bolsonaro could drag Brazil back into dictatorship, cultural legends warn
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/25/brazil-could-be-dragged-back-into-dictatorship-cultural-figures-warn
Is this the world’s most repulsive politician?
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/is-this-the-worlds-most-repulsive-politician/news-story/926a4a59cf6132f770dfdbd46f610e97
Next to Bolsinaro, Donald Trump is an eloquent dignified genteel speaker, Rodrigo Duterte is a gentle, kindly leader.
Bolsonaro seeks to open Brazil’s indigenous land to mining
https://www.ft.com/content/0d3055b4-48d9-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441
Bolsinaro, taking land from the indigenous people's of Brazil, allowing it to be developed and degraded by globalist mining corporations.
Tomkoyote
27th May 2020, 02:30
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
This is the first time I see a president vigorously attack the police state for mistreating citizens and openly and vigorously encouraging people to arm themselves and fight back. He went as far as blasting the Justice minister and Defense minister for not doing anything.
Has any of you presidents done anything like that ??? You obviously love your political leaders, the guardians of freedom and democracy. Let's reconnect in 6 months and see if you still have a job and enough money to buy food.
fractal being
27th May 2020, 02:58
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
This is the first time I see a president vigorously attack the police state for mistreating citizens and openly and vigorously encouraging people to arm themselves and fight back. He went as far as blasting the Justice minister and Defense minister for not doing anything.
Has any of you presidents done anything like that ??? You obviously love your political leaders, the guardians of freedom and democracy. Let's reconnect in 6 months and see if you still have a job and enough money to buy food.
You clearly totally ignore history. Populist leaders are commonly music in the ears of the oppressed and underprivileged. Hitler made these kind of compelling speeches and we all saw how did that go. If you could read between the lines you would realize that what he actually wants is an armed militia that could counteract any attempt from official authorities to prevent the working class from providing cheap labour for his circle of billionaire friends nomatter how dire the covid19 situation becomes.
Mashika
27th May 2020, 03:31
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
This is the first time I see a president vigorously attack the police state for mistreating citizens and openly and vigorously encouraging people to arm themselves and fight back. He went as far as blasting the Justice minister and Defense minister for not doing anything.
Has any of you presidents done anything like that ??? You obviously love your political leaders, the guardians of freedom and democracy. Let's reconnect in 6 months and see if you still have a job and enough money to buy food.
Are we talking about the same person that said things like:
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
“los indios huelen mal, carecen de educación y no hablan nuestra lengua”
"Indigenous people smell bad, lack education and don't speak our language"
"el reconocimiento de tierras indígenas es un obstáculo para la agroindustria"
"Recognizing ingidenous lands is an obstacle for the agro industry"
"si soy elegido presidente, no habrá ni un centímetro más de tierras indígenas"
"If i'm elected president, there will not remain one centimeter of indigenous lands"
“Vamos a desmarcar Raposa-Serra de Sol y dar armas a todos los terratenientes…”
"We are going to reposes Raposa-Serra de Sol and give arms to all the new landowners…"
Clearly he doesn't have any hate for natives, or any hint of racism. I bet he's all about protecting the poor and the people and not just some specific group of Brazillians
He doesn't talk for the Brazilian people, he talks for his friends. And his a racist brutal murderer, as long as the people murdered are natives he doesn't care and even celebrates
If he deserves your respect, i think you should reconsider, look at who he really is, not the empty words for the press he vomits all around
Let's reconnect in 6 months and see if you still have a job and enough money to buy food.
One thing is certain, the 117 indigenous people murdered by Bolsonaro supporters in 2017 and that he did nothing about, won't need any food anymore. Neither the 15 other people who were murdered on elections day, who also did not even received a mention by this "person"
I mean if you are white and not native, you are cool and you will receive good stuff and treatment, and won't die out there killed by a racist militia that wants to cleanse the country, otherwise you are out of luck 🤷🏻♀️💁🏻♀️
shaberon
27th May 2020, 04:27
I know nothing of him. I have always figured Brazil was hegemony and that the main reason we remember one of the main origins of what we call Mixed Martial Arts fighting circuits was in Gracie Jiujitsu, because those guys were from Brazil and all they had to do was walk around and street people would come at them with baseball bats and knives and stuff, and the difference was the police mostly had guns and would go around shooting these people, or whoever. There was no limit to the violence and that is how they successfully proved their fighting skills.
That being said, I think stuff like Samba is awesome and so I am sure there is a good side of the culture. But there is no way I could say I really know anything about its interior affairs, like which warlord is reliable or what politician can make any difference. I would guess people might say "Two Brazils", one in the nice touristy area where you don't see anything wrong, and then when you slip into a different neighborhood, you really know it. It is like that where I come from, but I get the impression Brazil is pretty extreme.
Kryztian
27th May 2020, 14:09
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
The title you chose for the thread was "Brazil's President Bolsonaro", not "Bolsonaro urges his citizens to revolt against the police" or "Bolsonaro's speech". The topic addresses the whole person, and that is how I responded.
And if you do look at the whole person, if you do look at his previous words and objectives and actions, you can understand exactly what he is up to in this speech that you posted. He is telling citizens to take up guns and threaten the police and create unrest. He's the president of his country and is supposed to create stability, but instead, he is creating chaos. If anyone in his country had the means to make the nation a better country free from police brutality it is its leader, from the top down, by using his authority an elected political, and not from the bottom up, by urging people to violence. But he isn't doing that!?! Why ??? Just look at his other quotes. He believes dictatorship is the best form of government and is happy to murder people to have it. If he can create instability, then the army will have to be called in and the democratic government will have to be suspended. His wet dream of returning to dictatorship will be realized.
Like so many would be autocrats, he promises freedom and power to the people only to use it against them and create his system of slavery. Some people will only listen to a few of his words and not look at the context of the whole person at their peril.
Bill Ryan
27th May 2020, 16:50
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
If he really did say
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
“los indios huelen mal, carecen de educación y no hablan nuestra lengua”
"Indigenous people smell bad, lack education and don't speak our language"
"el reconocimiento de tierras indígenas es un obstáculo para la agroindustria"
"Recognizing ingidenous lands is an obstacle for the agro industry"
"si soy elegido presidente, no habrá ni un centímetro más de tierras indígenas"
"If i'm elected president, there will not remain one centimeter of indigenous lands"
“Vamos a desmarcar Raposa-Serra de Sol y dar armas a todos los terratenientes…”
"We are going to reposes Raposa-Serra de Sol and give arms to all the new landowners…"
.... that's several orders of magnitude worse than shameful.
I don't care what he says about Covid-19. If these quotes are correct, and I'd trust Mashika to get her facts right (can any of our Brazilian members confirm??), then the guy deserves to be hounded out of office.
Period.
wegge
27th May 2020, 18:12
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
If he really did say
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
“los indios huelen mal, carecen de educación y no hablan nuestra lengua”
"Indigenous people smell bad, lack education and don't speak our language"
"el reconocimiento de tierras indígenas es un obstáculo para la agroindustria"
"Recognizing ingidenous lands is an obstacle for the agro industry"
"si soy elegido presidente, no habrá ni un centímetro más de tierras indígenas"
"If i'm elected president, there will not remain one centimeter of indigenous lands"
“Vamos a desmarcar Raposa-Serra de Sol y dar armas a todos los terratenientes…”
"We are going to reposes Raposa-Serra de Sol and give arms to all the new landowners…"
.... that's several orders of magnitude worse than shameful.
I don't care what he says about Covid-19. If these quotes are correct, and I'd trust Mashika to get her facts right (can any of our Brazilian members confirm??), then the guy deserves to be hounded out of office.
Period.
I‘m pretty sure that’s Spanish and not Portuguese
Bill Ryan
27th May 2020, 18:25
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
If he really did say
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
“los indios huelen mal, carecen de educación y no hablan nuestra lengua”
"Indigenous people smell bad, lack education and don't speak our language"
"el reconocimiento de tierras indígenas es un obstáculo para la agroindustria"
"Recognizing ingidenous lands is an obstacle for the agro industry"
"si soy elegido presidente, no habrá ni un centímetro más de tierras indígenas"
"If i'm elected president, there will not remain one centimeter of indigenous lands"
“Vamos a desmarcar Raposa-Serra de Sol y dar armas a todos los terratenientes…”
"We are going to reposes Raposa-Serra de Sol and give arms to all the new landowners…"
.... that's several orders of magnitude worse than shameful.
I don't care what he says about Covid-19. If these quotes are correct, and I'd trust Mashika to get her facts right (can any of our Brazilian members confirm??), then the guy deserves to be hounded out of office.
Period.
I‘m pretty sure that’s Spanish and not PortugueseYes, as best I can see the quotes came from this Spanish media site.
https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/12/21/3500_millones/1545397256_606928.html
Kryztian
27th May 2020, 18:41
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
I‘m pretty sure that’s Spanish and not Portuguese
Si señor, español. Here is one of the quotes in Portuguese:
“Pena que a cavalaria brasileira não tenha sido tão eficiente quanto a americana, que exterminou os índios.”
I found it on this page: https://survivalbrasil.org/pareogenocidio which details Bolsonaro's genocidal activity. If you want a translation of the page into English, you can get it from https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=https://survivalbrasil.org/pareogenocidio&prev=search
No matter what language you are speaking, Bolsonaro is a genocidal maniac, um maníaco genocida!
Mashika
27th May 2020, 19:36
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
If he really did say
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
“los indios huelen mal, carecen de educación y no hablan nuestra lengua”
"Indigenous people smell bad, lack education and don't speak our language"
"el reconocimiento de tierras indígenas es un obstáculo para la agroindustria"
"Recognizing ingidenous lands is an obstacle for the agro industry"
"si soy elegido presidente, no habrá ni un centímetro más de tierras indígenas"
"If i'm elected president, there will not remain one centimeter of indigenous lands"
“Vamos a desmarcar Raposa-Serra de Sol y dar armas a todos los terratenientes…”
"We are going to reposes Raposa-Serra de Sol and give arms to all the new landowners…"
.... that's several orders of magnitude worse than shameful.
I don't care what he says about Covid-19. If these quotes are correct, and I'd trust Mashika to get her facts right (can any of our Brazilian members confirm??), then the guy deserves to be hounded out of office.
Period.
I‘m pretty sure that’s Spanish and not Portuguese
Yeah, should have stated that, i don't know Portuguese but the quotes are an exact translation into Spanish :)
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You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
If he really did say
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
“los indios huelen mal, carecen de educación y no hablan nuestra lengua”
"Indigenous people smell bad, lack education and don't speak our language"
"el reconocimiento de tierras indígenas es un obstáculo para la agroindustria"
"Recognizing ingidenous lands is an obstacle for the agro industry"
"si soy elegido presidente, no habrá ni un centímetro más de tierras indígenas"
"If i'm elected president, there will not remain one centimeter of indigenous lands"
“Vamos a desmarcar Raposa-Serra de Sol y dar armas a todos los terratenientes…”
"We are going to reposes Raposa-Serra de Sol and give arms to all the new landowners…"
.... that's several orders of magnitude worse than shameful.
I don't care what he says about Covid-19. If these quotes are correct, and I'd trust Mashika to get her facts right (can any of our Brazilian members confirm??), then the guy deserves to be hounded out of office.
Period.
I‘m pretty sure that’s Spanish and not PortugueseYes, as best I can see the quotes came from this Spanish media site.
https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/12/21/3500_millones/1545397256_606928.html
Originally i read them on this website
https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2018/11/06/5be0d840268e3e67058b45ac.html
But i have seen them in several other places since then
Bolsonaro is a fascist of the worst kind. That's a fact. He has no respect for anyone but the uppermost echelons of light-skinned Brazilian society, and no regard for the environment, either. If he could raze the entire Amazon and all its inhabitants to the ground, he would.
Brazil is a very troubled nation, and he has only made it worse. The vast majority of Brazilians hate him, and for good reason. He is the worst kind of person, xenophobic to the extreme, elitist to the extreme, and exactly the wrong kind of person we need in power right now.
The fact that you fell for his rhetoric is frightening. This is how Hitler, Mussolini, et al nearly ruined Europe and wiped out millions of innocents.
We should all, now more than ever, be vigilant, and use critical thinking. Trump is one thing, but promoting Bolsonaro is another entirely. There is no other way to dice it: the man is a monster and an enemy of the people and of democracy.
Baby Steps
27th May 2020, 20:43
There is a similarity between him and Trump in that the only reason such a person had a shot at power is the embedded corruption within the more moderate sections of the political establishment, which drove people to vote for a clean up candidate. I bet many regret it now.
Brazil's gold rush , that no democratic politician cannot accommodate to a degree is the rape of the amazon. You have desperate marginalised people , taking to the forest to exploit it in any way they can, this involves ecocide and a low intensity war with the indigenous, who are already losing the war with big corporate resource companies.
The world is very concerned about the rain forest because untold biodiversity is an asset that we are losing every day, because it carries no value in the free market, and at some point, maybe soon, the remaining forest will lose its ability to stabilise its own fragile wet climate, and desertification will set in.
prescriptions to remedy this sad state of affairs might be to pay Brazil for each part of forest that remains unsullied, or to give recognition to indigenous areas as semi-autonomous with the legal right to defend against the farmers and companies. Creating wealth and stability for most Brazilians would also prevent so many marginalised people heading west.
With Bolsonaro we have a character who is very distant from the kind of person who could embrace these remedies, he basically is an enabler of forest destruction and denier of the idea that the damage is a serious matter for the whole world. As a right winger he will be wholly in the pocket of large resource companies who wish to 'open up' the 'wilderness'.
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bettye198
27th May 2020, 21:30
I listened to him as well, and watched his body language. He referred to God enough times to make me pause. I got the impression he wants to put an end to the chaos initiated by the thugs. Remember while he was campaigning back in 2018, a mad man stabbed him. Bolsonaro's son said they downplayed his condition because he was running for office, but that stabbing injured his stomach, liver and intestines and he was gravely ill. Yet, he came back with a spirit to undo the violence. I heard him say, he would arm his citizens. Almost reminds me of the Rodrigo Duterte from the Phillipines who with a thunderous hand removed the thugs, cleaning up the city. I learned about him from my Mothers caregiver and then researched. Maybe a bigger thug needs to stop the other thugs when diplomacy doesn't work.
Kryztian
27th May 2020, 21:41
The vast majority of Brazilians hate him, and for good reason.
Perhaps, but, in October 2018, he won the national election of Brazil with 55% of the vote (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Brazilian_general_election). Not quite a landslide but a good solid victory. One wonders, what did the voters of Brazil know about him then, and what do they know about him now?
On 6 September 2018 he was stabbed in Minas Gerais, and because he was recovering from that, he missed all the presidential debates. One has to wonder if he got a sympathy vote. One might even wonder if he missed all the debates. His opponent in the runoff election Fernando Haddad of the Workers' Party - the party was extremely unpopular at the time because of charges of corruption in the party, charges which history now shows are overblown and over hyped.
AutumnW
27th May 2020, 23:11
I listened to him as well, and watched his body language. He referred to God enough times to make me pause. I got the impression he wants to put an end to the chaos initiated by the thugs. Remember while he was campaigning back in 2018, a mad man stabbed him. Bolsonaro's son said they downplayed his condition because he was running for office, but that stabbing injured his stomach, liver and intestines and he was gravely ill. Yet, he came back with a spirit to undo the violence. I heard him say, he would arm his citizens. Almost reminds me of the Rodrigo Duterte from the Phillipines who with a thunderous hand removed the thugs, cleaning up the city. I learned about him from my Mothers caregiver and then researched. Maybe a bigger thug needs to stop the other thugs when diplomacy doesn't work.
Maybe you should read these comments a little more carefully. It would be a good start.
AutumnW
27th May 2020, 23:22
The vast majority of Brazilians hate him, and for good reason.
Perhaps, but, in October 2018, he won the national election of Brazil with 55% of the vote (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Brazilian_general_election). Not quite a landslide but a good solid victory. One wonders, what did the voters of Brazil know about him then, and what do they know about him now?
On 6 September 2018 he was stabbed in Minas Gerais, and because he was recovering from that, he missed all the presidential debates. One has to wonder if he got a sympathy vote. One might even wonder if he missed all the debates. His opponent in the runoff election Fernando Haddad of the Workers' Party - the party was extremely unpopular at the time because of charges of corruption in the party, charges which history now shows are overblown and over hyped.
He is a populist and they manipulate public sentiment very effectively. And yes, South America has a terrible history of murdering union leaders etc.. historically backed by neocon Americans. They are active again in that part of the world, helping to install creeps like Bolsonaro and Trump and demonizing democratically elected Social Democrats in Venezuela.
Through Trump, they will be agitating for people to arm themselves, unmask or else fall prey to the "evil police state" when they are the evil police state themselves. God help America if Trump is reelected, because the populist playbook will have him taking his gloves off, in his second term.
But for those who voted for him and will in the future, by all means, have him have YOU demonizing Mexians and desperate Latinos, while you have YOUR rights slowly removed.
America is third world and approaching Brazil in terms of neocon manipulation and cruelty.
Inaiá
28th May 2020, 00:31
Hi.
I'm brazilian. Although I feel that there really are no words to describe what Brazil is going through right now... i can give you my point of view and some facts.
Please pray for us on earth... and let's be our best. May love, light and justice win in all of us.
===================================================
Unfortunatly, Bolsonaro really said those things mentioned above... and worse.
For example: During the covid-19 pandemic (Bolsonaro is minimizing the deasease while governators and other polititians are doing their best pro isolation and health care) Bolsonaro said:
"With my athlete history, if i catch the coronavirus it will be like a little flu. (…) Only the old and the ones with already some other deasease will suffer" (Ps.: Bolsonaro was in the army, where he may have made some exercises... but he ended expelled of the army).
"So what?!?"... When asked about the record of dead brazilians of covid-19.
" I am not a gravedigger" ... when asked about the prediction of the coronavirus deaths on the country.
"Saturday we will make a big barbacue" ...on the weakend when Brazil reached 1000 deaths per day. He eventually cancealed the barbacue. He went jetskiing instead, all smiles, on that afternoon.
Governors and great part of the population are very disgusted by what Bolsonaro says and does. But a few people still belive in the fakenews that says he is "honest", "pro God", "pro family" and "pro Brasil", and that the worker's party (and as someone said, you bet any other party that tries to be there for the poor etc.) is corrupt and the worst thing in the history of the universe. They are messing with people feelings. People are in a trance. In the middle of a pandemic, it all gets even more difficult to deal with.
Regarding all of this Tereza Helena Gabrielli Barreto Campello, a brazilian ex-minister, made a great syntesis:
"Q .: Such a crisis gains even greater dimension, with Jair Bolsonaro as president?
A .: All countries are facing 1918, the health crisis of the Spanish flu, 1929, with the crash of the New York Stock Exchange and the respective productive and economic crisis, and 2008, the year of the financial crisis, at the same time. Brazil still faces a political crisis - it is the perfect storm. At a time of this seriousness, the president fights with the Senate, with the Chamber of Deputies and with the Supreme Federal Court, offends governors and municipalities and even disallows the health minister himself, who is trying to tackle the problem. Not even in the worst of the worst, in the worst of scenarios could such a president be imagined.".
It may seem delusional what someone tells about Bolsonaro and the current events in Brazil. But it's happening, here and now.
So maybe there are words to describe what we're going through: shock doctrine. I'll say something about that next.
Inaiá
28th May 2020, 00:35
Brazil since 2013 is under the shock doctrine. That's what we have to keep in mind when thinking anything about Brazil today. It suffered a coup d'etat in 2016 enabled by that campaing, taking Dilma (worker's party) out of the presidency. (Until 2016 there was 4 elections (13 years) won by the worker's party, one after another, with it making great things for the country and the brazilians, including the economicly and etc. excluded ones. ... Then, in 2013 we got the shock doctrine. Michel Temer briefly and badly stayed on the government, starting to dismantle the country).
Bolsonaro was elected in 2018 with the admitted help of Steve Banon in a election where the worker's party's candidate, Lula, the favorite one, was ilegally arrested and put out of the election. Bolsonaro was elected after years of a massive campaing on the midia and whatsapp against the worker's party. He was elected with tons of fakenews. Dialogue was made inviable among citizens by the climate that was created. People no longer were thinking. They were emotionally manipulated with fakenews about corruption, religion and sex. He was elected after having not attended any debate due to a “stab” he suffered (a really odd and probable fake one). Since Bolsonaro is in power he is destroying every great institution in our country as well as worker's rights, enviroment laws, etc. You name it.
On another thread i’ve commented this:
Bolsonaro is coming to town. ;)
I hope you said that in a ironic mood. If not, let it be known that Bolsonaro represents the worst powers that wererunning in the presidential election this year. TPTB. Unffortunatly he won, even being openly racist, violent, extremist, against his on country and people. Brazil is still under a coup d'etat. Bolsonaro will harden the awful things Temer is already doing to the pleople and land. Brazil is under the shock doctrine "treatment".
So, please, don't take him for what he isn't: any kind of help. On the contrary, he is actvely hammering our country and people.
It's suffice to say that, when voting for the impeachment of Dilma (the coup), he paied tribute to a famous torturer of the dictatorship period in Brazil, Ustra. That's the kind of person he admires.
Pray for Brazil, please. Let us not be fooled by no type os false profets, be it religious or political.
https://www.fairobserver.com/region/latin_america/brazil-democracy-jair-bolsonaro-victory-populism-latin-america-election-news-99065/
...and this:
I don't want to digress the topic of this thread. The side topic "Brazil x Bolsonaro", as it was brougth here, though, shouldn't stay unadressed.
News source i recomend about the topic: https://theintercept.com/
In the end, we find our selves in the midst of a war on perception and the manipulation of people's thougts, energy and emotions.
(…)
To each department on the government Bolsonaro has nominated the antithesis of what would be the proper leader. He's been busy nominating wolves to take care of the chickens. For example, to be the head of the department of "Women, Family and Human Rights", Bolsonaro nominated Damares Alves, founder of the NGO Atini, which is being prosecuted by the Brazilian state and people on alegations of child sexual abuse and human trafficking among the indiginous. Such a great cleanup!
Our faith should not be blind.
Inaiá
28th May 2020, 00:55
Some interesting facts
Bolsonaro is a huge Trump's fan. I think you could say employee...
Bolsonaro makes speeches with the flag of Brazil, EUA and Israel side by side.
Bolsonaro is strongly pro cloroquine.
Bolsonaro is strongly pro guns.
Bolsonaro's family (he has 2 sons that are also polititians) is being investigated for various suspected crimes.
Bolsonaro openly praises torturers and dictators of Brazil and other countries history. In Dilma's impeachment's votation Bolsonaro offered his "Yes" vote to colonel Ustra, a brazilian torturer who, according to Bolsonaro during his vote, was "Dilma Roussef's terror" (Dilma was tortured during the brazilian ditactorship). Just think about that. Just think about that.
Bolsonaro says that coronavirus is just a "little flu".
Bolsonaro and other polititians went on a comitive to the USA to meet his buddy/boss Trump. Returning to Brazil 26 people of the comitive were diagnosed with the coronavirus. Bolsonaro made the first test, witch alegladly went positive, then, negative. Following the medical protocol Bolsonaro was then advised to stay in quarentine until a second test would be done. Bolsonaro ignores the protocol and makes a public aparition in a "political" manifestation that was (irrationaly) done by some followers of him. There, without a mask, he shook hands, held people phones whom he took selfies with, you name it. Bolsonaro says the result of the second test was negative. When asked to show the journalists the result he refused. Later, he said he is going to get more tests "just in case..." as "he is in contact with a lot of people". Right. In its list of positive infections, the hospital wich made Bolsonaro's tests ommited 2 of the names of the 17 people who tested positive there.
Bolsonaro is betting high ...and with the lives of people. He is putting himself as the one who cares for the economy, the country's and employer's well being. He made a law autorizing employers to do not pay salaries for 4 mounths. He had to revogue it though, the next day, due to the pushback he received. So much for caring for the citizens.
That’s it. Bolsonaro and his antiministers are doing a lot of damage to the country.
Behind it all, the old system of explotation of people’s energy and life wants to stay in place, no mather what happens... or precisely with everything that’s happening.
Let’s hope the spells are broken and Brazil can regain it’s healthy path soon.
AutumnW
28th May 2020, 01:05
Some interesting facts
Bolsonaro is a huge Trump's fan. I think you could say employee...
Bolsonaro makes speeches with the flag of Brazil, EUA and Israel side by side.
Bolsonaro is strongly pro cloroquine.
Bolsonaro is strongly pro guns.
Bolsonaro's family (he has 2 sons that are also potiticians) is being investigated for various suspected crimes.
Bolsonaro openly praises torturers and dictators of Brazil and other countries history. In Dilma's impeachment's votation Bolsonaro offered his "Yes" vote to colonel Ustra, a brazilian torturer who, according to Bolsonaro during his vote, was "Dilma Roussef's terror" (Dilma was tortured during the brazilian ditactorship). Just think about that. Just think about that.
Bolsonaro says that coronavirus is just a "little flu".
Bolsonaro and other polititians went on a comitive to the USA to meet his buddy/boss Trump. Returning to Brazil 26 people of the comitive were diagnosed with the coronavirus. Bolsonaro made the first test, witch alegladly went positive, then, negative. Following the medical protocol Bolsonaro was then advised to stay in quarentine until a second test would be done. Bolsonaro ignores the protocol and makes a public aparition in a "political" manifestation that was (irrationaly) done by some followers of him. There, without a mask, he shook hands, held people phones whom he took selfies with, you name it. Bolsonaro says the result of the second test was negative. When asked to show the journalists the result he refused. Later, he said he is going to get more tests "just in case..." as "he is in contact with a lot of people". Right. In its list of positive infections, the hospital wich made Bolsonaro's tests ommited 2 of the names of the 17 people who tested positive there.
Bolsonaro is betting high ...and with the lives of people. He is putting himself as the one who cares for the economy, the country's and employer's well being. He made a law autorizing employers to do not pay salaries for 4 mounths. He had to revogue it though, the next day, due to the pushback he received. So much for caring for the citizens.
That’s it. Bolsonaro and his antiministers are doing a lot of damage to the country.
Behind it all, the old system of explotation of people’s energy and life wants to stay in place, no mather what happens... or precisely with everything that’s happening.
Let’s hope the spells are broken and Brazil can regain it’s healthy path soon.
We are walking together! Thank you. Keep fighting the good fight and spread the truth wherever and however you can!
shaberon
28th May 2020, 01:10
Almost reminds me of the Rodrigo Duterte from the Phillipines who with a thunderous hand removed the thugs, cleaning up the city. I learned about him from my Mothers caregiver and then researched. Maybe a bigger thug needs to stop the other thugs when diplomacy doesn't work.
This is realistic and here is a rough idea why: not all thugs are thieves.
As an example, I will relate what took place in Morocco to a couple of tourists. They were kidnapped. Shut in a car trunk at gunpoint. Driven away for a couple of hours, released, and forced to buy hash at gunpoint.
Well, a thief would just take your cash.
So you can keep in mind that not all thugs are there to deceive you like a thief. It just means that they have told you about something which is illegal and they back it up with force. If you are not causing a disturbance, you are fine. It may take someone of this nature to break the political machine.
MMM,it feels like Bolsonaro is pushed into the news to indirectly discredit and attack Trump,as in guilt by assiociation, and by that assiociate the world wide protest against the lockdown and the voices disagreeing with the WHO agenda,with extreem right and facism as being in the same camp with facists like Bolsonaro.
I think its not about Bolsonaro,Same old media tricks to demonise anybody not agreeing with the pushed narrative.
shaberon
28th May 2020, 01:19
Some interesting facts
Bolsonaro is a huge Trump's fan. I think you could say employee...
Bolsonaro makes speeches with the flag of Brazil, EUA and Israel side by side.
On this, we could say the American Republican faction had a lot to do with Reverend Moon and Paraguay. I am wondering if this made ties into Brazil. Most of what you are describing sounds rather Republican, I think they are almost the same. By this I mean the extremist side who knows that family values are just a kitschy cover for death squads.
Mashika
28th May 2020, 05:17
Almost reminds me of the Rodrigo Duterte from the Phillipines who with a thunderous hand removed the thugs, cleaning up the city. I learned about him from my Mothers caregiver and then researched. Maybe a bigger thug needs to stop the other thugs when diplomacy doesn't work.
This is realistic and here is a rough idea why: not all thugs are thieves.
As an example, I will relate what took place in Morocco to a couple of tourists. They were kidnapped. Shut in a car trunk at gunpoint. Driven away for a couple of hours, released, and forced to buy hash at gunpoint.
Well, a thief would just take your cash.
So you can keep in mind that not all thugs are there to deceive you like a thief. It just means that they have told you about something which is illegal and they back it up with force. If you are not causing a disturbance, you are fine. It may take someone of this nature to break the political machine.
Not all thugs are thieves, but given the evidence provided by his own mouth and actions, this one is, no doubt about it
Otherwise how to explain what he is trying to do? Specially that sickening focus on indigenous people and trying to steal their land and lives?
Mashika
28th May 2020, 05:21
MMM,it feels like Bolsonaro is pushed into the news to indirectly discredit and attack Trump
Trust me when i say that no one gives an F about Trump in that country, except the people who make money out of the US :)
I think its not about Bolsonaro,Same old media tricks to demonise anybody not agreeing with the pushed narrative.
Very much think real people out on the Brazilian streets are not even aware of global/US politics, or care more than finding some cash to live and eat another day. So i don't think the people who are mostly rebelling hard against this guy are doing it due to politics, they just can't go out to the street without getting killed
MMM,it feels like Bolsonaro is pushed into the news to indirectly discredit and attack Trump
Trust me when i say that no one gives an F about Trump in that country, except the people who make money out of the US :)
I think its not about Bolsonaro,Same old media tricks to demonise anybody not agreeing with the pushed narrative.
Very much think real people out on the Brazilian streets are not even aware of global/US politics, or care more than finding some cash to live and eat another day. So i don't think the people who are mostly rebelling hard against this guy are doing it due to politics, they just can't go out to the street without getting killed
Sorry,i did not refer to his role in Brasil,but to the international mainstreammedia hitpieces,making people feel stupid and wrong by sharing some of the same sentiments.
palehorse
28th May 2020, 11:53
FF to 3:30
First time I hear a president speak as a citizen, no politics, no BS. He deserves my respect.
https://www.brighteon.com/786c0c7d-1060-4fb3-8c78-b54b15ac44f4
I follow no leader, but what Mr. Bolsonaro said is very cool, the average people armed in Brazil, I wanna see that. I wish more presidents around the world have the same guts to arm their own people.
Brazil is an amazing country with beautiful and kind people, but politics sucks at most, and it was always like that, most former Brazilian presidents has a very dark history, Lula & Dilma, Fernando Henrique Cardoso, Fernando Collor, ..
This post was about his discourse about arming people, giving people rights to have a gun to protect themselves, which I totally agree, it is not about the indigenous people or anything else, my response here is ONLY about this gun thing and nothing else. I do know Mr. Bolsonaro is not a good person, but that was the Brazilian's choice for president and they knew who Bolsonaro was before giving their votes.
People should be able to protect themselves against the super filth elite that are destroying the country for ages, allowing guns is one way. There is militias in the country (e.g. PCC, MST, ..) and they already got rifles, grenade, high caliber guns, bazoocas, name it, they already have it!
I had been in Brazilian "favelas" in Rio (Cantagalo), Sampa (Vietna, Heliopolis, Peri) and Recife (Vila Deus), and I can tell you, the government gives a dam about, most people living in favelas are hard workers, low income and they can not afford a better place to live, but also is the place where the drug lords reside and control the drug traffic.
My first time in a Brazilian favela I almost freaked out, I was expecting something else, but okay. I saw happy people, crooks, beautiful ladies, people drinking and playing instruments (samba & pagode), armed people in houses, dirty kids running around, salesman, Jehova Witnesses, a very mixed environment, colourfull.
The filth elite got guns, patriots got it, the militias also got their guns, then who is aimed this bill Bolsonaro is talking about? If it pass it will be for everybody who still not get their guns, that's it.
Kryztian
28th May 2020, 14:29
I follow no leader, but what Mr. Bolsonaro said is very cool,
Either you didn't read any of the posts in this thread (except the first), or you think someone with a legacy of genocide, political violence and dictatorship is cool, which would make one wonder what you are doing on Project Avalon.
Here's a little more on the original video that started the thread. The people whom Bolsonaro is blasting in his profanity laden speech are the leadership of the city of Manaus, where COVID-19 (perhaps the same strain that his Guayaquil Ecuador) is causing a record number of deaths. There is no place to put the bodies and they are having to dig mass graves. Instead of helping them or giving them support, Bolsonaro is urging them to attack the leadership of the city with guns.
Brazilian Covid-19 victims buried in MASS GRAVES as fatalities mount
Authorities in the Brazilian city of Manaus have begun burying people who died from Covid-19 in mass graves after the number of people falling victim to the virus dramatically increased.
In a somber statement, Manaus City Hall said that the number of burials in public cemeteries spiraled significantly over the past few days and it has been forced to use mass graves to cope with all the fatalities. The average number of burials before the disease hit the city was approximately 30 per day. However, the daily figure has now climbed close to 100.
“The municipality has adopted the mass graves system to bury the victims of Covid-19, a method already used in other countries,” the statement reads, adding that it is “a necessary measure to attend to the demand for burials.”
Grim video footage from the scene of the burials shows earth-moving machines carving out a large trench for coffins and covering the varnished boxes in mounds of clay.
Story continues here, with video: https://www.rt.com/news/486560-brazil-covid-19-mass-graves-manaus/
Also, if you think President Bolsonaro's words are cool, please note that after the video was released, he kind-of sort-of denied saying these things:
Brazil.- Bolsonaro denies that he tried to interfere with the Police and describes these accusations as “light”
The president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro, denied on Monday that he tried to interfere in the work of the Federal Police and described the accusations in this regard as “light”, after a video of a ministerial meeting in which he was released I could see how he claimed that he had already tried to change security personnel in Rio de Janeiro.
Rest of story is here: https://www.explica.co/brazil-bolsonaro-denies-that-he-tried-to-interfere-with-the-police-and-describes-these-accusations-as-light/
palehorse
28th May 2020, 15:53
I follow no leader, but what Mr. Bolsonaro said is very cool,
Either you didn't read any of the posts in this thread (except the first), or you think someone with a legacy of genocide, political violence and dictatorship is cool, which would make one wonder what you are doing on Project Avalon.
Here's a little more on the original video that started the thread. The people whom Bolsonaro is blasting in his profanity laden speech are the leadership of the city of Manaus, where COVID-19 (perhaps the same strain that his Guayaquil Ecuador) is causing a record number of deaths. There is no place to put the bodies and they are having to dig mass graves. Instead of helping them or giving them support, Bolsonaro is urging them to attack the leadership of the city with guns.
Brazilian Covid-19 victims buried in MASS GRAVES as fatalities mount
Authorities in the Brazilian city of Manaus have begun burying people who died from Covid-19 in mass graves after the number of people falling victim to the virus dramatically increased.
In a somber statement, Manaus City Hall said that the number of burials in public cemeteries spiraled significantly over the past few days and it has been forced to use mass graves to cope with all the fatalities. The average number of burials before the disease hit the city was approximately 30 per day. However, the daily figure has now climbed close to 100.
“The municipality has adopted the mass graves system to bury the victims of Covid-19, a method already used in other countries,” the statement reads, adding that it is “a necessary measure to attend to the demand for burials.”
Grim video footage from the scene of the burials shows earth-moving machines carving out a large trench for coffins and covering the varnished boxes in mounds of clay.
Story continues here, with video: https://www.rt.com/news/486560-brazil-covid-19-mass-graves-manaus/
Also, if you think President Bolsonaro's words are cool, please note that after the video was released, he kind-of sort-of denied saying these things:
Brazil.- Bolsonaro denies that he tried to interfere with the Police and describes these accusations as “light”
The president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro, denied on Monday that he tried to interfere in the work of the Federal Police and described the accusations in this regard as “light”, after a video of a ministerial meeting in which he was released I could see how he claimed that he had already tried to change security personnel in Rio de Janeiro.
Rest of story is here: https://www.explica.co/brazil-bolsonaro-denies-that-he-tried-to-interfere-with-the-police-and-describes-these-accusations-as-light/
But this thread is about what he said in the video, not about his past (perhaps create a new thread "Bolsonaro's past" would be more appropriate). I support the liberation of weapons for civilians and it has nothing to do with been part of Project Avalon or not, because that is my opinion and it will not change.
Sarah Rainsong
28th May 2020, 16:25
But this thread is about what he said in the video, not about his past (perhaps create a new thread "Bolsonaro's past" would be more appropriate). I support the liberation of weapons for civilians and it has nothing to do with been part of Project Avalon or not, because that is my opinion and it will not change.
I do understand what you're saying, but to take a snippet of what someone says, especially someone in politics or high leadership, without considering the whole picture is very dangerous. It's the reverse of someone who has an legitimate, honorable reputation being crucified by the media because of a misunderstanding or improperly phrasing something. Both tend to happen to further agendas that are unethical. Neither is okay.
palehorse
28th May 2020, 17:39
But this thread is about what he said in the video, not about his past (perhaps create a new thread "Bolsonaro's past" would be more appropriate). I support the liberation of weapons for civilians and it has nothing to do with been part of Project Avalon or not, because that is my opinion and it will not change.
I do understand what you're saying, but to take a snippet of what someone says, especially someone in politics or high leadership, without considering the whole picture is very dangerous. It's the reverse of someone who has an legitimate, honorable reputation being crucified by the media because of a misunderstanding or improperly phrasing something. Both tend to happen to further agendas that are unethical. Neither is okay.
I never meant to offend anyone just because I agree with what he said.
The debate to allow guns or not to civilians in Brazil is a very hot topic, and all presidents at least once jumped into this boiling water, it is not new news in Brazilian politics. In January of 2019 Bolsonaro signed a decree to make gun purchase easier for anyone, on May 2019 he extended this decree to allow rural gun owners to use guns in their own property, of course there is requirements to acquire a firearm license in Brazil just like any other country, but he is making easier, than the average John can have one.
Also the import of firearm into Brazil increased dramatically in the last 4 years. Bolsonaro is facilitating the process since he became the president, I am not jumping to conclusions here, these are facts. What he said in this specific short video is no news for me and many Brazilians, when I said it was cool, i meant about the streets slangs / jargon he was using, very low level for a president. Hence cool!
spade
28th May 2020, 18:21
Let me put my 2 cents in here : 1stly I know nothing about Bolsonaro, never heard about him, never followed his history, never knew about his past, didn't even know that he's the president of Brazil. Only came to light recently due to the firings of his 2 health ministers who insisted they would follow Bill Gates' (controls the WHO alongside China) narrative on pronouncing hydroxychloroquine as deadly, dangerous and ineffective, all of which are debunked due to 60+ years of safe effective usage, especially for the short term. And with that alone, I support him.
I think lines are clearly drawn right now:
A. Those who wish for the virus to end without the need to vaccinate due to a safe and quick early treatment / prophylaxis that will have no need for hospitalization.
B. those who wish to prolong the virus till a "viable" vaccine (so full of **** like luciferase gene editing therapy RNA mutual assured destruction, all funded by one guy and only one guy -> William Gates the 3rd.
I care not a person's past or history... people change. I have seen people like Trump, Duterte, and Viktor Orban change their bad ways (womanizing, misogynist, sexist, racist, sordid pasts) as they entered their respective roles of leadership. I have also seen good quiet and obedient people enter into positions of authority or leadership and turn into the vilest, most corrupt, hypocritical and backstabbing bastards you will ever meet. Do not judge a person by their past, judge them by their fruit of their current labour.
Sometimes, you need a thug-like character to run a messy developing country. Yes - US is kind of a developing country (look at what's happening in Minneapolis right now).
AutumnW
28th May 2020, 18:41
Some truly despicable comments on this thread, but they reveal so much. Mainly that those who have fallen for the populist manipulations in the U.S. extend their 'reasoning' to the rest of the world. They would support Idi Amin were he alive and taking hydrochloroquine.
I hate to say this, but the peace loving portion of the U.S. may just have to gun up so they can protect themselves. It could get very ugly in the U.S.
fractal being
28th May 2020, 19:35
...I care not a person's past or history... people change. I have seen people like Trump, Duterte, and Viktor Orban change their bad ways (womanizing, misogynist, sexist, racist, sordid pasts) as they entered their respective roles of leadership.
I openly challenge you to provide some evidece on that (i.e. posts they made, interviews they gave) demonstrating a shift in their views on that direction. I'm not interested in exposing you as a liar, I'd rather been proved wrong here and you right.
To assume that someone is against nwo, just because they claim to be doing that imo is rather naive. Historically speaking populist movements have been shown to further the nwo agendas if not significantly speeding them up. Think about it how fitting would be on top of the Covid1984 crisis to have also regional political turmoil. If Bolsonaro is inerested in protecting his people from the nwo grip, he can do something about it instead of inciting civil war situations. He's the freakin president. Same goes for Trump. Minneapolis is the consequence of him allowig the nwo to chock people to death.
My apologies if this post is derailing the thread. I'll happily remove it if the mods think so.
AutumnW
28th May 2020, 19:49
Fractal Being,
I think your post is perfect!
...I care not a person's past or history... people change. I have seen people like Trump, Duterte, and Viktor Orban change their bad ways (womanizing, misogynist, sexist, racist, sordid pasts) as they entered their respective roles of leadership.
I openly challenge you to provide some evidece on that (i.e. posts they made, interviews they gave) demonstrating a shift in their views on that direction. I'm not interested in exposing you as a liar, I'd rather been proved wrong here and you right.
To assume that someone is against nwo, just because they claim to be doing that imo is rather naive. Historically speaking populist movements have been shown to further the nwo agendas if not significantly speeding them up. Think about it how fitting would be on top of the Covid1984 crisis to have also regional political turmoil. If Bolsonaro is inerested in protecting his people from the nwo grip, he can do something about it instead of inciting civil war situations. He's the freakin president. Same goes for Trump. Minneapolis is the consequence of him allowig the nwo to chock people to death.
My apologies if this post is derailing the thread. I'll happily remove it if the mods think so.
Fractal being,are you suggesting that because Trump is standing up for peoples right for freedom and is criticising the WHO he is the same as Bolsonaro,a fascist?
Is this what these anti Bolsonaro posts are about?Indirectly attacking anybody who doesnt disagree with Trump ,and ridiculing the millions of people around the world protesting against the lockdown ?
Can you provide evidence that Trump is "allqwing the new world order to chock people to death"?
Kryztian
29th May 2020, 03:49
I never meant to offend anyone just because I agree with what he said.
While I might disagree with you 100%, I never felt offended and believe you are trying to state a sincerely held opinion.
I think part of the misunderstandings that many of us are having here is that we are all discussing these matters on three different levels:
We are discussing the original video from Post #1, without looking at the context of the speech outside of the words uttered here.
We are discussing Jair Bolsonaro in general (which is the subject of the thread title). Some of these things should give context to what is being said in this speech.
We are discussing Populism and other populist world leaders, such as Donald Trump and Rodrigo Duterte.
Just a few comments about the last point. I think a lot of people here automatically love or loathe Bolsonaro because of how they feel about populism or because of how they feel about Trump and Duterte. Love them or hate them, I do believe that Trump and Duterte are trying to improve the lives of the vast majority of the peoples in their country. You can argue about how successful they are, but I think they are all very different animals from Bolsonaro.
For Duterte, the enemies in the world are the terrorists (which the Phillipines has lots), drug dealers, street thugs and pedophile priests, and he doesn't always worry about their civil right to a trial. Shoot first and ask questions later. He defines himself as a socialist and wants to protect the weak and the poor. He also wants to protect his nation for foreign predatory capitalists.
For Bolsonaro, the enemies of the world are civil rights and social justice advocates, union organizers, the indigenous peoples, feminists. He's quite willing to see these people murdered, or at least he has said he would. He is an anarcho capitalist that sees money making opportunity in crisis. He is more than willing to bring foreign influence in if there is money to be made. He interest in making guns available to those who could afford them (most Brazillians couldn't) is just his way of using violence to support his system of predatory capitalism.
palehorse
29th May 2020, 04:56
I never meant to offend anyone just because I agree with what he said.
While I might disagree with you 100%, I never felt offended and believe you are trying to state a sincerely held opinion.
I think part of the misunderstandings that many of us are having here is that we are all discussing these matters on three different levels:
We are discussing the original video from Post #1, without looking at the context of the speech outside of the words uttered here.
We are discussing Jair Bolsonaro in general (which is the subject of the thread title). Some of these things should give context to what is being said in this speech.
We are discussing Populism and other populist world leaders, such as Donald Trump and Rodrigo Duterte.
Just a few comments about the last point. I think a lot of people here automatically love or loathe Bolsonaro because of how they feel about populism or because of how they feel about Trump and Duterte. Love them or hate them, I do believe that Trump and Duterte are trying to improve the lives of the vast majority of the peoples in their country. You can argue about how successful they are, but I think they are all very different animals from Bolsonaro.
For Duterte, the enemies in the world are the terrorists (which the Phillipines has lots), drug dealers, street thugs and pedophile priests, and he doesn't always worry about their civil right to a trial. Shoot first and ask questions later. He defines himself as a socialist and wants to protect the weak and the poor. He also wants to protect his nation for foreign predatory capitalists.
For Bolsonaro, the enemies of the world are civil rights and social justice advocates, union organizers, the indigenous peoples, feminists. He's quite willing to see these people murdered, or at least he has said he would. He is an anarcho capitalist that sees money making opportunity in crisis. He is more than willing to bring foreign influence in if there is money to be made. He interest in making guns available to those who could afford them (most Brazillians couldn't) is just his way of using violence to support his system of predatory capitalism.
I appreciate your words, but I was discussing only and exclusively about that short video (post #1), I think a new thread about Bolsonaro's past would be more appropriate to drawn the big picture of who he really is, there is plenty of information available on him, look into 60' and you will see satan in person!
Actually I do not feel anything for Bolsonaro, I do not hate or love him, a while ago, specially after my last trip to Brazil I start to dig something about the Brazilian Presidents and I found out that almost all of them are pretty bad, politics in Brazil is hell, sorry to say that.
Just to make some facts straight, to have a firearm legally in Brazil will cost R$ 1.000 (gun license) + R$ 83,00 (gun registration every 3 or 5 years, i am not sure) + gun purchase (if need) - anyone can get a gun license with POLICIA FEDERAL (Federeal Police of Brazil). It is quite affordable, one of my friends in Brazil is a truck driver and he carry his gun when travelling, he said there is kidnappers in the highways and he need it for his protection, that's the only way.
Just to say an illegal gun in Brazil can be bought for as low as R$ 250 in any favela.
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
If he really did say
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
“los indios huelen mal, carecen de educación y no hablan nuestra lengua”
"Indigenous people smell bad, lack education and don't speak our language"
"el reconocimiento de tierras indígenas es un obstáculo para la agroindustria"
"Recognizing ingidenous lands is an obstacle for the agro industry"
"si soy elegido presidente, no habrá ni un centímetro más de tierras indígenas"
"If i'm elected president, there will not remain one centimeter of indigenous lands"
“Vamos a desmarcar Raposa-Serra de Sol y dar armas a todos los terratenientes…”
"We are going to reposes Raposa-Serra de Sol and give arms to all the new landowners…"
.... that's several orders of magnitude worse than shameful.
I don't care what he says about Covid-19. If these quotes are correct, and I'd trust Mashika to get her facts right (can any of our Brazilian members confirm??), then the guy deserves to be hounded out of office.
Period.
Native Indians are considered incapable of acts of civil life by our laws. Bolsonaro wants to give permission for native Indians to commercially explore their lands by mining or growing crops and provide for themselves like any other ordinary Brazilian.
Bolsonaro is actively helping the deforestation of Amazon by firing those civil servants that inspect deforestation, by complaining on Television of civil servants that fine and destroy machines employed to deforest the Amazon Jungle. Our Environmental Ministry was asking Bolsonaro to pass Bills to remove burocracy and regulation to help those that have deforested parts of the jungle to legalize their agriculture business on Amazon Region.
Now I will share some articles that are talking about the deforestation of Amazon in 2019 and 2020. Please use Google translate and set it from portuguese into english:
https://www.natura.com.br/blog/sustentabilidade/desmatamento-a-amazonia-esta-sob-ameaca?raccoon_param1=sustentabilidade-conteudos&raccoon_param2=desmatamento-a-amazonia-esta-sob-ameaca&cnddefault=true&gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPptljEcBHb0PhdIKwl0X0xyXISzHjWSYAoaQDv6MxdBwdrJD4q61GhoCAKIQAvD_BwE
https://g1.globo.com/natureza/noticia/2020/05/08/alertas-de-desmatamento-na-amazonia-crescem-em-abril-mostram-dados-do-inpe.ghtml
https://g1.globo.com/natureza/noticia/2020/04/13/alertas-de-desmatamento-na-amazonia-crescem-5145percent-no-primeiro-trimestre-mostram-dados-do-inpe.ghtml
Mashika
30th May 2020, 02:51
You clearly totally ignored what he said and went on a full blast character assassination.
If he really did say
“Es una vergüenza que la caballería brasileña no fuera tan eficaz como los estadounidenses, que exterminaron a sus indios"
"It is a shame that brasileña cavalry wasn't as effective as the American one, who managed to exterminate most indigenous people"
“los indios huelen mal, carecen de educación y no hablan nuestra lengua”
"Indigenous people smell bad, lack education and don't speak our language"
"el reconocimiento de tierras indígenas es un obstáculo para la agroindustria"
"Recognizing ingidenous lands is an obstacle for the agro industry"
"si soy elegido presidente, no habrá ni un centímetro más de tierras indígenas"
"If i'm elected president, there will not remain one centimeter of indigenous lands"
“Vamos a desmarcar Raposa-Serra de Sol y dar armas a todos los terratenientes…”
"We are going to reposes Raposa-Serra de Sol and give arms to all the new landowners…"
.... that's several orders of magnitude worse than shameful.
I don't care what he says about Covid-19. If these quotes are correct, and I'd trust Mashika to get her facts right (can any of our Brazilian members confirm??), then the guy deserves to be hounded out of office.
Period.
Native Indians are considered incapable of acts of civil life by our laws. Bolsonaro wants to give permission for native Indians to commercially explore their lands by mining or growing crops and provide for themselves like any other ordinary Brazilian.
Bolsonaro is actively helping the deforestation of Amazon by firing those civil servants that inspect deforestation, by complaining on Television of civil servants that fine and destroy machines employed to deforest the Amazon Jungle. Our Environmental Ministry was asking Bolsonaro to pass Bills to remove burocracy and regulation to help those that have deforested parts of the jungle to legalize their agriculture business on Amazon Region.
Now I will share some articles that are talking about the deforestation of Amazon in 2019 and 2020. Please use Google translate and set it from portuguese into english:
https://www.natura.com.br/blog/sustentabilidade/desmatamento-a-amazonia-esta-sob-ameaca?raccoon_param1=sustentabilidade-conteudos&raccoon_param2=desmatamento-a-amazonia-esta-sob-ameaca&cnddefault=true&gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPptljEcBHb0PhdIKwl0X0xyXISzHjWSYAoaQDv6MxdBwdrJD4q61GhoCAKIQAvD_BwE
https://g1.globo.com/natureza/noticia/2020/05/08/alertas-de-desmatamento-na-amazonia-crescem-em-abril-mostram-dados-do-inpe.ghtml
https://g1.globo.com/natureza/noticia/2020/04/13/alertas-de-desmatamento-na-amazonia-crescem-5145percent-no-primeiro-trimestre-mostram-dados-do-inpe.ghtml
Something is wrong with what you said, but i'm not going to argue about it, i will just say that the last thing he wants is something good for the natives, or as you call them "Indians"
He dislike "Indians" as much as Hitler hated Jews, that's all very obvious from his own mouth :)
I think arguing about that is pointless, he spoke about his true feelings in a way that can't be twisted at all
And probably this thread title should be changed to "Bolsonaro's speach" or something like that instead of just his name, because it clearly leads into discussing the person and not the video. But i don't even know if that matters, it's basically this:
"We are going to talk about how cool this person looks like on this video, where he said all the right things i wanted to hear, if you know something that takes away from this great message go somewhere else to post it and don't break the illusion"
What for? It's fake anyways, i don't like to be fooled so if i look into the person and find out he's a serial murderer and lier, why would i believe another video of the guy just because he said the right things i wanted to hear?
https://twitter.com/mashikalisa/status/1257884678398279683?s=21
This is like when cops hit someone who's already down on the floor and they miss to hit him and hit the floor, then later on they sue the guy because the cop got bruised when hitting the floor, and they call it "aggression by the guy who got arrested". All backwards and completely without logic
In my first post I am not judging if what Bolsonaro said about native indians is good or bad, that´s up for everybody to decide by him/herself. I am just talking about Bolsonaro´s plan for them. I am just comunicating facts without giving my opinion.
spade
16th June 2020, 18:47
Headsup : Bolsonaro just threw a surprise visit bust open a hospital who claimed 5000 cases and a high death count - found out the hospital was unoccupied and partially under construction.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AOECOIN/status/1272712575537438720
1272712575537438720
pacificator
16th June 2020, 21:03
Headsup : Bolsonaro just threw a surprise visit bust open a hospital who claimed 5000 cases and a high death count - found out the hospital was unoccupied and partially under construction.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AOECOIN/status/1272712575537438720
1272712575537438720
Head up.. Some of the hospital are in construction and not fully equipped and functional for Covid.. (some money are going in someone else pocket)
Bolsonaro is the president, He can send the Army, police or whatever he please to check out any of these place if they are really empty.
no need to send regular people for this.
This is all a political show down here. Brazil has the biggest corruption ever.. they all fight each other for power and money, either way you see left or right it smell bad.
pacificator
19th June 2020, 13:58
There is more fake news, Bolsonarist took this old story from 2017 and made current COVID-19 related...
even Jim Stone (freelance journalist) fell for it......
http://g1.globo.com/sp/sao-carlos-regiao/jornal-da-eptv/videos/v/pedra-e-saco-com-serragem-estavam-dentro-de-caixao-em-sao-carlos-sp/5905285/?utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2YqAZyB2mkevKhoB21qMyTh06xVl7cMccC7e7yZcGtBTTNb6epiCfSOmM
The real story was a police investigation in Sao Carlos SP on life insurance fraud
spade
19th June 2020, 14:39
Heard about some further stuff today about coffin openings discovering only weights in them instead of bodies, following up from the unconfirmed “fake news”. Looks like there’s a serious covid narrative war going on in Brazil, bolsonaro or not. I will lean on the non mainstream news side. Mainstream is 95% fake.
Ernie Nemeth
19th June 2020, 15:44
And the other five percent is lies!
pacificator
19th June 2020, 20:26
police investigation in Sao Carlos SP on life insurance fraud
The story is here https://www.saocarlosagora.com.br/policia/mulher-e-enterrada-viva-em-golpe-do-seguro-de-vida/87248/
Mashika
21st June 2020, 07:57
Headsup : Bolsonaro just threw a surprise visit bust open a hospital who claimed 5000 cases and a high death count - found out the hospital was unoccupied and partially under construction.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AOECOIN/status/1272712575537438720
1272712575537438720
Brazil is a very corrupt state, it just happens that the people controlling this hospital are leaning towards a party that doesn't like Bolsonaro, everyone else is doing the exact same thing
How big a hospital needs to be to hold 5000 people, all with covid? and how much money was sent to them due to this "extreme situation"
Meanwhile, while this lasted, the real brazillians were suffering badly, but if you think Bolsonaro did this out of good heart of with Brazil's interest in mind, you are terribly wrong. Because we still see the natives without food or medicine and pushed away day by day while begging for help from Bolsonaro, he seems to be deft as soon as he sees specific skin colors
That hasn't changed at all, and there's real emergency on those lands, but i guess if people die or goes away, then you can give better use of that land than to let it be "wasted".
Something similar has happened a bit in Russia, all farm land is being left to die, everyone moving to the cities, once the land is forgotten and loses all value, it is bought for cheap, including giant houses that would cost millions of dollars in the US, but are sold for cheap, like 20,000 dollars or so :) Then the land is taken away to build other stuff and people eventually comes back "home" and now they have to rent cheap houses and go work on the factories or whatever because they were not able to find any work on the cities, or were not accepted and had a terrible time
There was a name for this cheap strategy that works very well no matter what, but i forgot about it lol
Anyways this will happen on Brazil as well, people will leave their land in search of a better life, sell cheap then go to the city with high hopes, then get fooled, looked down upon, rejected and marginalized, then return home to rent a cheap bad apartment and work on a factory that was built on the same land they used to own, now earning barely enough money to live day by day and not able to look into a good future anymore, or leave anything but debt and sadness to their kids. It's the usual thing. But someone will get rich for sure!
Congrats!
spade
29th June 2020, 07:09
It's GAME OVER for BiII Geightz in Brasil!
Description of dosing used in the treat-at-home COVID pack in Brazil. The world needs to follow this example.
https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1277485154513158144/photo/1
spade
29th June 2020, 13:46
Whoopsies spoke too soon - it's still GAME ON for Brazil by Geightz and co. They've started releasing a FAKE version of hydroxychloroquine. Imagine that - who would release something fake for a cheap drug? there's no money to be made!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebqu4aMXYAIbMYQ?format=jpg&name=large
Sarah Rainsong
29th June 2020, 16:06
Whoopsies spoke too soon - it's still GAME ON for Brazil by Geightz and co. They've started releasing a FAKE version of hydroxychloroquine. Imagine that - who would release something fake for a cheap drug? there's no money to be made!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebqu4aMXYAIbMYQ?format=jpg&name=large
Very interesting indeed. Do you have any more info on this than the pictures?
spade
30th June 2020, 05:47
no unfortunately...
I'm just following updates by https://twitter.com/covid19crusher
palehorse
30th June 2020, 13:00
Whoopsies spoke too soon - it's still GAME ON for Brazil by Geightz and co. They've started releasing a FAKE version of hydroxychloroquine. Imagine that - who would release something fake for a cheap drug? there's no money to be made!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebqu4aMXYAIbMYQ?format=jpg&name=large
Very interesting indeed. Do you have any more info on this than the pictures?
Here is Unimed's official website in Belem-Para > https://www.unimedbelem.com.br/
Here is their hotsite for the corona virus > https://unimedcontraocoronavirus.com.br/unimeds and all units in Brazil that is taking part of this project, but it does not say anything about Cloroquina 450mg or any other medication given to the public, also Unimed in Brazil is a private hospital, it is not for the general public. For the average public is the government hospital they call SUS.
Sarah Rainsong
30th June 2020, 14:26
no unfortunately...
I'm just following updates by https://twitter.com/covid19crusher
Whoopsies spoke too soon - it's still GAME ON for Brazil by Geightz and co. They've started releasing a FAKE version of hydroxychloroquine. Imagine that - who would release something fake for a cheap drug? there's no money to be made!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebqu4aMXYAIbMYQ?format=jpg&name=large
Very interesting indeed. Do you have any more info on this than the pictures?
Here is Unimed's official website in Belem-Para > https://www.unimedbelem.com.br/
Here is their hotsite for the corona virus > https://unimedcontraocoronavirus.com.br/unimeds and all units in Brazil that is taking part of this project, but it does not say anything about Cloroquina 450mg or any other medication given to the public, also Unimed in Brazil is a private hospital, it is not for the general public. For the average public is the government hospital they call SUS.
It would be interesting to know whether they're giving, say, sugar pills in place of Plaquenil (which would indicate to me a rather nefarious purpose) or whether some company has decided to replicate the Plaquenil packaging and charge the high prices associated with the brand Plaquenil vs the generic hydroxychloroquine (which would indicate more generic greed than anything more nefarious).
palehorse
30th June 2020, 17:36
no unfortunately...
I'm just following updates by https://twitter.com/covid19crusher
Whoopsies spoke too soon - it's still GAME ON for Brazil by Geightz and co. They've started releasing a FAKE version of hydroxychloroquine. Imagine that - who would release something fake for a cheap drug? there's no money to be made!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebqu4aMXYAIbMYQ?format=jpg&name=large
Very interesting indeed. Do you have any more info on this than the pictures?
Here is Unimed's official website in Belem-Para > https://www.unimedbelem.com.br/
Here is their hotsite for the corona virus > https://unimedcontraocoronavirus.com.br/unimeds and all units in Brazil that is taking part of this project, but it does not say anything about Cloroquina 450mg or any other medication given to the public, also Unimed in Brazil is a private hospital, it is not for the general public. For the average public is the government hospital they call SUS.
It would be interesting to know whether they're giving, say, sugar pills in place of Plaquenil (which would indicate to me a rather nefarious purpose) or whether some company has decided to replicate the Plaquenil packaging and charge the high prices associated with the brand Plaquenil vs the generic hydroxychloroquine (which would indicate more generic greed than anything more nefarious).
In the flyer it says, it started distributing medicines for Covid-19 on 11 MAY. Location: CAN (Complexo Arquitetonico de Nazare - Avenue Gentil Bittencourt (between Street Generalissimo Deodoro and 14 de Marco)) - The content of this flyer is inconsistent, it clearly says free of charge but in the bottom it says that people need to have Unimed ID in order to be able to get the medicines. :HELP!: My portuguese sucks sometimes.
Pharmaceuticals in Brazil is mafia, I would not trust a single word coming out of these crooks. I remember an old case of Generic medicines in Brazil, it was wheat flour (not sugar), many brands were tested in the occasion. (sorry I couldn't find any link for reference). The same case was happening in The Philipines years ago. Unfortunately people are hypochondriac and now with Covid-19 the beast is profiting super high.
pacificator
30th June 2020, 19:31
no unfortunately...
I'm just following updates by https://twitter.com/covid19crusher
Whoopsies spoke too soon - it's still GAME ON for Brazil by Geightz and co. They've started releasing a FAKE version of hydroxychloroquine. Imagine that - who would release something fake for a cheap drug? there's no money to be made!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebqu4aMXYAIbMYQ?format=jpg&name=large
Very interesting indeed. Do you have any more info on this than the pictures?
Here is Unimed's official website in Belem-Para > https://www.unimedbelem.com.br/
Here is their hotsite for the corona virus > https://unimedcontraocoronavirus.com.br/unimeds and all units in Brazil that is taking part of this project, but it does not say anything about Cloroquina 450mg or any other medication given to the public, also Unimed in Brazil is a private hospital, it is not for the general public. For the average public is the government hospital they call SUS.
It would be interesting to know whether they're giving, say, sugar pills in place of Plaquenil (which would indicate to me a rather nefarious purpose) or whether some company has decided to replicate the Plaquenil packaging and charge the high prices associated with the brand Plaquenil vs the generic hydroxychloroquine (which would indicate more generic greed than anything more nefarious).
In the flyer it says, it started distributing medicines for Covid-19 on 11 MAY. Location: CAN (Complexo Arquitetonico de Nazare - Avenue Gentil Bittencourt (between Street Generalissimo Deodoro and 14 de Marco)) - The content of this flyer is inconsistent, it clearly says free of charge but in the bottom it says that people need to have Unimed ID in order to be able to get the medicines. :HELP!: My portuguese sucks sometimes.
Pharmaceuticals in Brazil is mafia, I would not trust a single word coming out of these crooks. I remember an old case of Generic medicines in Brazil, it was wheat flour (not sugar), many brands were tested in the occasion. (sorry I couldn't find any link for reference). The same case was happening in The Philipines years ago. Unfortunately people are hypochondriac and now with Covid-19 the beast is profiting super high.
Free drive-true delivery in Nazare Belem (north of Brasil) only as the flyer
in order to get this you will need
1- valid ID card with picture
2- Unimed insurance card
3- Prescription from your doctor for the cloroquina 450mg
meeting all 3 requirements you will get 1 individual kit of:
cloroquina 450mg
Azitromicina 500mg
Ivermectina 6mg
Unimed is a private nationwide healthcare provider so without you pay it's not free stuff
SUS is the nationwide free healthcare system.
Bill Ryan
8th July 2020, 14:01
This is pretty major: Bolsonaro has Covid-19. One of many articles:
https://theconversation.com/brazils-bolsonaro-has-covid-19-and-so-do-thousands-of-indigenous-people-who-live-days-from-the-nearest-hospital-141506
Brazil’s Bolsonaro has COVID-19 – and so do thousands of Indigenous people who live days from the nearest hospital
https://images.theconversation.com/files/346195/original/file-20200707-194413-2nzsdd.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&rect=0%2C39%2C5305%2C2648&q=45&auto=format&w=1356&h=668&fit=cropSatere-mawe Indigenous men in face masks paddle the Ariau River, in hard-hit Manaus state, during the coronavirus pandemic, May 5, 2020.
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, who has denied the severity of the coronavirus pandemic (https://www.jota.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/adpf-apib-compressed.pdf) and ridiculed social distancing, tested positive for the novel coronavirus on July 7 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-53319517) after showing mild symptoms.
Bolsonaro is one of 1.9 million confirmed COVID-19 victims in coronavirus-wracked Brazil. But as a white, wealthy and powerful man, he is not a member of the most hard-hit group. Data shows that Black Brazilians (https://theconversation.com/covid-19-is-deadlier-for-black-brazilians-a-legacy-of-structural-racism-that-dates-back-to-slavery-139430) and Indigenous people are getting sick and dying (https://ipam.org.br/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/NT-covid-indi%CC%81genas-amazo%CC%82nia.pdf) at much higher rates.
Indigenous communities face particularly daunting odds to survival during the pandemic. Most of Brazil’s roughly 896,000 Indigenous people live in the Amazon region (http://www.funai.gov.br/index.php/indios-no-brasil/o-brasil-indigena-ibge), where the nearest hospital may be days away by boat and offer limited care (https://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1809-43412019000100204). Indigenous Brazilians also have higher rates of malnutrition, anemia and obesity (https://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0102-311X2014000400855) than the general population – risk factors for severe COVID-19.
As of July 6, Brazil’s Health Ministry reported 7,958 COVID-19 infections among Indigenous people and 171 deaths (https://saudeindigena.saude.gov.br/corona). The National Committee for Indigenous Life and Memory (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/06/disaster-looms-indigenous-amazon-tribes-covid-19-cases-multiply/#close), an advocacy group for Indigenous people during the pandemic, estimates 12,000 infections and 400 deaths (https://covid19.socioambiental.org/).
The situation is dire for the Amazonian Yanomami people. If current trends continue, 5,600 Yanomami – or 40% of their entire population – could become infected with COVID-19 (https://acervo.socioambiental.org/acervo/publicacoes-isa/o-impacto-da-pandemia-na-terra-indigena-yanomami-foragarimpoforacovid), according to a report from Brazil’s Indigenous Environmental Institute.
COVID-19 is just the latest deadly threat to Indigenous people under Bolsonaro, whose policies and rhetoric are so openly hostile (https://theconversation.com/brazils-jair-bolsonaro-is-devastating-indigenous-lands-with-the-world-distracted-138478) that they essentially amount to a campaign of genocide, our research finds.
https://images.theconversation.com/files/346190/original/file-20200707-194396-n5qpp6.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=754&fit=clip (https://images.theconversation.com/files/346190/original/file-20200707-194396-n5qpp6.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip) A 92-year-old Baniwa Indigenous patient who recovered from COVID-19 leaves the hospital in the Amazonian city of Manaus in May 2020, holding a sign reading ‘Another Recovered Warrior.’
What is genocide
Under Bolsonaro, who took office in January 2018, Brazil has dismantled environmental protections of the Amazon, allowing deforestation to spike. He has also curtailed the land rights of Indigenous people and turned a blind eye to illegal mining, logging and farming operations on their territory.
In late 2019, those policies led two leading Brazilian human rights organizations to report Bolsonaro to the International Criminal Court (https://apublica.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/e-muito-triste-levar-um-brasileiro-para-o-tribunal-penal-internacional-diz-co-autora-da-peticao.pdf), alleging that the right-wing leader was “inciting genocide” against Indigenous people. This case is still pending.
Under international law, the crime of genocide (https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf) requires “intent to destroy, in whole or in part,” a group based on their nationality, ethnicity, race or religion. While genocide often involves explicit killing, it can also include causing serious harm to a population and destroying their way of life.
As scholars of mass atrocity prevention (https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/about-us/Doc.3_Framework%20of%20Analysis%20for%20Atrocity%20Crimes_EN.pdf) and Indigenous rights, we have watched with alarm as Brazil showed warning signs (https://www.amazon.com/Confronting-Evil-Engaging-Responsibility-Genocide/dp/0199300704) that this latter, slower type of genocide was underway. Now COVID-19, which is actually killing Indigenous people by the hundreds, could be the final straw.
https://images.theconversation.com/files/346189/original/file-20200707-194427-1vfb40d.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=754&fit=clip (https://images.theconversation.com/files/346189/original/file-20200707-194427-1vfb40d.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip) A protest demonstration honoring Brazilian COVID-19 victims in the capital of Brasilia, June 28, 2020. At the time, Brazil had 57,070 coronavirus deaths.
Warning signs
In theory, many Brazilian Indigenous people should be well situated to escape COVID-19 exposure. An estimated 10,000 (https://unpo.org/article/21899) live in voluntary isolation (http://www.oas.org/en/iachr/indigenous/docs/pdf/Report-Indigenous-Peoples-Voluntary-Isolation.pdf) across the Amazon, separated from broader Brazilian society. Many others have only limited contact with the outside world.
Their rights to self-determination and isolation are confirmed by two international agreements (https://www.un.org/development/desa/indigenouspeoples/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2018/11/UNDRIP_E_web.pdf) on indigenous rights (https://www.oas.org/en/sare/documents/DecAmIND.pdf), both of which Brazil signed. In recent years, however, loggers, miners and farmers (https://theconversation.com/jair-bolsonaro-wants-to-deforest-the-amazon-what-powers-does-the-un-have-to-stop-him-120154) have aggressively violated these land rights and set up shop in the Amazon, sometimes with the Bolsonaro government’s explicit endorsement (https://theconversation.com/brazils-jair-bolsonaro-is-devastating-indigenous-lands-with-the-world-distracted-138478).
The illegal land grabs have worsened during the pandemic, as the world’s attention turned away from the Amazon. The number of non-Indigenous gold miners working on Indigenous lands in Brazil increased from 4,000 in 2018 to over 20,000 so far in 2020 (https://news.mongabay.com/2019/07/yanomami-amazon-reserve-invaded-by-20000-miners-bolsonaro-fails-to-act/). Such incursions risk bringing the coronavirus into Indigenous communities.
The systematic violation of Indigenous land rights also endanger their very survival.
Indigenous people have lived in the Amazon for centuries, protecting the rainforest (https://theconversation.com/indigenous-people-may-be-the-amazons-last-hope-130941) in a manner that not only supported their traditional way of life but also protected this global natural resource. Historically, they could count on at least minimal government regulations intended to defend the Amazon rainforest, though deforestation has long been a challenge (https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/11/18/20970604/amazon-rainforest-2019-brazil-burning-deforestation-bolsonaro).
But Bolsonaro does not believe in defending the Amazon or its inhabitants (https://theconversation.com/amazon-deforestation-already-rising-may-spike-under-bolsonaro-109940). One of his first acts in office was to roll back environmental protections. Deforestation of the Amazon has increased 34% (https://g1.globo.com/natureza/noticia/2019/11/28/terras-indigenas-tem-alta-de-74percent-no-desmatamento-area-mais-afetada-protege-povo-isolado.ghtml) since 2018, according to the Brazilian Amazon monitoring program (http://www.obt.inpe.br/OBT/assuntos/programas/amazonia/prodes). Deforestation of Indigenous lands is up almost 80%.
Illegal property seizure (https://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S2179-89662019000100129&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en) and rights violations like those experienced by Indigenous Brazilians under Bolsonaro are known warning signs of genocide. So is the physical destruction of a persecuted group’s homeland. According to the UN, “deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part (https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf)” constitutes genocide.
https://images.theconversation.com/files/346192/original/file-20200707-194405-1wif3so.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&rect=0%2C5%2C3500%2C2321&q=45&auto=format&w=754&fit=clip Yanomami Indigenous Brazilians wait to receive health care from missionaries in Roraima state, July 1, 2020.
Denying the humanity of a group (https://www.genocidewatch.com/ten-stages-of-genocide) is another frequent precursor to genocide, history shows. Before the Holocaust, for example, Nazis referred to Jews as rats.
Bolsonaro has not gone so far as to characterize Indigenous Brazilians as vermin. But he refers to them using derogatory language.
“The Indians do not speak our language, they do not have money, they do not have culture,” he told Campo Grande newspaper in 2015 (https://www.campograndenews.com.br/politica/bolsonaro-diz-que-oab-so-defende-bandido-e-reserva-indigena-e-um-crime), when he was still a congressman. Earlier this year, Bolsonaro said Indigenous people exposed to the outside world are “increasingly becoming human beings, like us (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/24/jair-bolsonaro-racist-comment-sparks-outrage-indigenous-groups).”
Time for intervention
Land grabs, insufficient health care, deforestation and stigmatization all threatened Indigenous Brazilians before the pandemic. Genocides can be that way. They are a process (https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/definitions), not sudden, isolated events.
Risk factors and warning signs can smolder for years in a country. Then a “trigger (https://core.ac.uk/reader/229941814)” like COVID-19 ignites them, resulting in mass death.
We’re not alone in making this dire forecast. On June 29, a Brazilian indigenous rights organization and six political parties jointly requested an order of protection for Indigenous people (https://www.jota.info/stf/do-supremo/indigenas-pedem-ao-stf-que-governo-adote-medidas-para-proteger-povos-isolados-30062020) during the coronavirus pandemic to prevent genocide from occurring.
The plaintiffs insist that the government must provide adequate health care to all Indigenous Brazilians; physically secure Indigenous land to prevent illegal miners, loggers and others from entering; and expel those who do trespass. Failing these emergency measures, they assert, Brazil’s Indigenous peoples face extinction (https://www.jota.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/adpf-apib-compressed.pdf).
If the court grants their request, there’s no guarantee the government will comply. But it could saves lives. For indigenous communities with just a few hundred members (https://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/brazilian), that may make all the difference.
Studying the indigenous survivors of diseases brought to them by invading groups in the centuries past, I have become much more aware of how disconnected many native cultures are now from their native healing cures. These native tribes have been well known for successfully using curatives in plants, while at the same time engaging the frequency always needed and present in healing, methods often misnamed rituals. There is the highest probability of there being an Amazonian forest, plant-based cure and cures for this current pandemic. Until then the efforts of those to protect these tribes in imminent danger of great loss and extinction are the most important to support.
During the pandemic of the last century there were few, if any, reported deaths in D'Neh/Navajo Country when millions died in other parts of the U.S., from the army created, vaccine developed, so-called spanish flu. The common herbal curative at that time, lomatium/desert parsley, was used as a preventative and a cure, since the times that they learned to treat the diseases brought to them by outsiders.
This same herb, Lomatium, is known to this day by herbalists, naturopaths and an ever increasing number of individuals involved in their own health care, as an effective cure for many viral attacks upon the immune system. With the current pandemic in place the use of this herb, known for its anticoagulant properties, makes sense as this one strain of the virus debilitates by creating an overwhelming storm of blood clotting factors. How far from their indigenous roots has this tribe gone to have so many illnesses and deaths from the current outbreak, presently amongst the highest in the country, I can only study. Amongst the many historic imbalances present in most native communities, this one stands out to me.
When we live in the awareness of the frequencies we cohabit, the solutions are immediate and self-evident to everyone. All of the words, even those attempting to honestly solve problems, fall short of the providing the solutions that are present when we choose to sense the world thru vibration and frequency. If you listen to a shaman, a healer, even a scientist who is connected to source explain the complete truth of healing, they always refer to the awareness of the field that finds the cure.
Nods to many here for reminding me. Thank You for that!
Funny that I hear the word as Naad, the frequency of sacred prayers, of Muntruh, meant only to open our awareness to the presence of limitless consciousness, quite unlike the lie that repetition of a prayer or a mantra is meant to desensitize those lost in the grasp, even as that is possible. Quite the opposite is true when these methods are used to liberate the left brain from its hold in time and awareness is found again. We shake off the hold of habit with vibration in order to engage the limitless, even the Unaahud Shubud, the Unstruck Song, that waits outside of the limits of conflict held in the truly unconscious consciousness.
In my sons talks with me about the extremes of discrimination against the indigenous and black populations he met in his times in Brazil, from the countryside of Baru to the complexities of life in Sao Paulo and the separations within Rio, he notes how so much discrimination and prejudice would shock most Americans. He has friends there who he sees as having a support of Bolsinaro that he does not agree with at all. He explains why.
It is good in some ways to experience the soulful disconnect that so many have, seemingly unable to bridge the gap of cultural exclusions. It is in finding the true causes of separation and suffering that we find the possibility of making a lasting peace, or resign ourselves to other works.
Bill Ryan
22nd August 2020, 18:41
From Reuters, two days ago:
https://reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil-indigenous/brazil-bars-doctors-without-borders-covid-19-help-to-indigenous-villages-idUSKBN25G2OT
Brazil bars Doctors Without Borders COVID-19 help to indigenous villages
20 August, 2020
The Brazilian government has not allowed Médecins Sans Frontières to provide assistance to prevent and detect suspected cases of COVID-19 in seven villages of the Terena indigenous tribe in southern Brazil, the medical NGO said on Thursday.
MSF, or Doctors Without Borders, presented a plan to assist the seven communities with about 5,000 inhabitants, adding in a statement that it had been invited to help by tribal leaders.
Instead, the government’s indigenous health agency Sesai authorized its own doctors to assist another village with 1,000 inhabitants, where it said COVID-19 cases were more prevalent.
A Sesai statement said that MSF presented an expanded plan for assisting Terena communities that was not authorized because it failed to name the communities and resources to be used.
Indigenous rights organizations have complained that the government has allowed Christian missionaries to work with isolated tribes despite the risk of contagion by outsiders.
The coronavirus pandemic has endangered indigenous communities with no access to healthcare in remote parts of the Amazon and other parts of Brazil whose communal living under large dwellings make social distancing impossible.
Brazil’s main indigenous umbrella organization APIB has criticized the government of right-wing President Jair Bolsonaro for denying the gravity of the second worst coronavirus outbreak outside the United States.
According to APIB, 690 indigenous people have died from COVID-19 and 26,443 cases have been confirmed among Brazil’s 850,000 indigenous people. Half of Brazil’s 300 indigenous tribes have confirmed infections.
MSF said its doctors are fully aware of the need to prevent the spread of contagion in indigenous territories.
“MSF has strict infection prevention and control protocols that it has successfully applied during its work to combat COVID-19 worldwide,” the NGO said in a statement.
norman
31st October 2022, 14:42
Narcotraffickers Celebrate Election of Corrupt Ex-Convict Socialist Lula da Silva
AlexandraBruce Published October 30, 2022
Bolsonaro won every region of Brazil except for the one which coincidentally happens to be the most corrupt part of the country, Nordeste, which is controlled by drug traffickers and gangs.
If Lula takes power, Brazil will be in the hands of an international criminal cartel which has used Grupa del Pueblo to install its cronies in every major South American government.
Lula is the president of the international left, a puppet of narcotraffickers. He plans to let loose a wave of Red Terror and racial violence through massive crime wave and police stand-downs. He is bent on revenge. Bolsonaro has a moment of decision.
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arwen
31st October 2022, 15:35
Sigh. :(
Brazil is also part of BRICS.
norman
31st October 2022, 15:42
Sigh. :(
Brazil is also part of BRICS.
We ALL will be soon, with a bit of luck.
arwen
31st October 2022, 17:38
White House, Biden, MSM Quickly Congratulates Lula on Presidential Victory in Brazil over Trump Endorsed President Bolsonaro Touting ‘Free, Fair, and Credible Elections’ (https://thedcpatriot.com/white-house-biden-msm-quickly-congratulates-lula-on-presidential-victory-in-brazil-over-trump-endorsed-president-bolsonaro-touting-free-fair-and-credible-elections/)
“I send my congratulations to Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on his election to be the next president of Brazil following free, fair, and credible elections. I look forward to working together to continue the cooperation between our two countries in the months and years ahead.“ Biden.
Bernie Sanders chimed in as well on what a great night it was for Brazil, furthering the notion that they are screwed as a society.
“Today, the people of Brazil have voted for democracy, workers’ rights and environmental sanity. I congratulate Lula on his hard fought victory and look forward to a strong and prosperous relationship between the United States and Brazil.“
palehorse
1st November 2022, 13:18
People of Brazil are taking the streets tomorrow to invoke the article 142 in front of the many military installations in the country, to show how disgusted they are with the results of the election. In accordance with the Brazilian Constitution, the current president (Bolsonaro) is not allowed to be vocal about the situation, but the people of the country can and should rise if they feel something is wrong with the results.
I was thinking to create a new thread "Turmoil in Brazil", because for what I am hearing, it will be strikes everywhere in the country, starting tomorrow. (2nd November).
People and some politicians are accusing the TSE (Tribunal Superior Eleitoral - https://www.tse.jus.br) of fraud in the voting system.
There is already a mobilization to strike of many major transport companies in Brazil, they say they control supplies in Brazil, if they stop, Brazil stop. Just a reminder: Brazil depends most in road transportation (Trucks).
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Just an update I got a few hours ago, some small to medium size towns in Brazil are already on strike, schools closed since yesterday, road blocks and all sort of things, like invasion of residences, etc.. We may see a lot of BS coming out in the MSM in a few days.
norman
1st November 2022, 13:38
Personally, I'm not keen on the idea of starting thread titles with the word turmoil.
Up to a point, words and headlines are spells, and we can do better than to mimic or out compete the tabloid spell masters.
But, sure, a new thread for the situation in Brazil is probably going to be needed. In a few more days, the title of that thread will surely become apparent. "The Jan 6th" event in DC haunts my own considerations of that prospect right now. A stolen election on this scale is very likely to have had some background psyop plans Incorporated into it too.
Re: January 6, 2021 Washington DC incident
Lights, Camera, J6! [EXTENDED TRAILER]
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113687-January-6-2021-Washington-DC-incident&p=1525511&viewfull=1#post1525511
palehorse
1st November 2022, 13:39
Another thing I would like to comment, and I even commented with some Brazilian friends, and they didn't know until they looked that up and could confirm to me.. same patterns, feels like the same script is being executed in Brazil at this moment, I followed a bit of the US election drama, folks I may be wrong (I don't mind if I am, please correct me), but it seems the same thing that happened in US is happening in Brazil.
palehorse
1st November 2022, 14:11
Personally, I'm not keen on the idea of starting thread titles with the word turmoil.
Up to a point, words and headlines are spells, and we can do better than to mimic or out compete the tabloid spell masters.
But, sure, a new thread for the situation in Brazil is probably going to be needed. In a few more days, the title of that thread will surely become apparent. "The Jan 6th" event in DC haunts my own considerations of that prospect right now. A stolen election on this scale is very likely to have had some background psyop plans Incorporated into it too.
Re: January 6, 2021 Washington DC incident
Lights, Camera, J6! [EXTENDED TRAILER]
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113687-January-6-2021-Washington-DC-incident&p=1525511&viewfull=1#post1525511
Yes Norman absolutely well said, but in this case I was just following the standard way almost all the threads were created under the "Earth's Populations in Turmoil" forum (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?184-Earth-s-Populations-in-Turmoil).
The entire thing is a puppet show :facepalm:
Nice video, thanks for sharing.
pacificator
1st November 2022, 19:25
That's a good article >> Comeback kid Lula in the eye of a volcano
http://thesaker.is/comeback-kid-lula-in-the-eye-of-a-volcano/
TomKat
1st November 2022, 22:58
Seems there are questions with the defeat of Bolsonaro similar to the defeat of Trump:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1d0urnq22cdq/
palehorse
2nd November 2022, 04:17
That's a good article >> Comeback kid Lula in the eye of a volcano
http://thesaker.is/comeback-kid-lula-in-the-eye-of-a-volcano/
what an appeasement article haha
Scobar is clearly in favor of the leftist and communists all around the world, I would be very careful with his articles (packed with subliminals), I personally don't trust 1 single word he writes.
How dare him to compare the Squid in Brazil with Julian Assange, how dare!!! lol
TomKat
2nd November 2022, 12:41
A friend who lives in Brazil said this about the election:
Not the slightest possibility it was legit, I would not call it an "election".
Alexandre de Morais, chief of the Supreme Court appointed himself as the chief of the electoral court, and was the one dictator of the entire process, He ordered all media and social media outlets to extreme levels of censorship, blocking and in some cases jailing the best journalists. He refused to have auditable counting machines, which are so primitive a school child could hack them. He un-condemned Lula, not on the basis of innocence, but saying the crimes were tried in a state instead of in Federal territory. In theory that would another court would have to make the judgment.
Morais has criminal suspended cases against almost all Left politicians; as long as they support his corruption, he won't finish processing theirs.
Lula appointed 9 of the 11 the Supreme Court judges. They invent legislation, which capacity does not exist in the Constitution. Morais said he would fine the Federal Police $20,000 per hour that that do not give lists of the thousands of protesting truck drivers to him. He also wanted to fine the police for stopping buses of people going to vote. Police seized about $10 million in bribes for vote rigging from those buses.
The crimes of Lula's conviction "only" involved a few million $ for himself, but a fortune for Cuba and to install dictators in South American countries.
I think the idea is to have one government for Canada, USA and all of South America.
Hopefully the USA mid terms will punch a hole in the idea, and the Brazilian Military will intervene. The Military was ordered by Morais to analyze the voting machines and and announce to the public they were legit. The Military responded with 70 different serious flaws which could compromise election integrity. He ordered them to release their report on last month's election, but they refused, saying it will take another month to make a full report on both elections.
palehorse
3rd November 2022, 05:44
Here is quite a few videos I received from friends in Brazil, also some compilations, the situation is escalating very fast now. They are censoring parts of internet in certain areas, denial of services and all sort of censorship going on right now.
https://mega.nz/folder/DM1jwYwT#FFPEFy3LaWA5rsabXgUDaA
There is this peculiar video, where the dude says there was fraud in his hometown, a small town where most people voted to Bolsonaro, but in the TSE app, it says Lula won 100% of the votes.. more and more people doing the same, specially folks from small towns, everybody by now knows it was a fraud, a big one and it is possible for every single person to confirm that, just using the official App by TSE (On Android shop and Appe).
Here is the peculiar video
https://mega.nz/file/CRsVWDaS#2kVMNAqSIw0BXeh2fnIw3B-RZlwk6MRm_yA9vrIsRhg
Some of the television channels in Brazil are showing the strikes everywhere, SBT and RECORD Tvs are showing it, the major one GLOBO is covering up as usual, CNN Brazil also covering up all the facts.
My friend just told me that the military could prove there was fraud, and Morais were given 72 hours to explain himself.
Bolsonaro is surrounded by agents, they fear for retaliation and attempt on his life once again.
P.s. There is a lot of fake, dis/mis information going on in Brazil, it is very hard to get hold of something that is real at this point, nobody is speaking, but people are super pissed and they took the streets to demonstrate their anger.
I am sorry, it is all in Portuguese, but if need translation I can help with.
pacificator
3rd November 2022, 14:47
what about this Nazi salute signing the Brazilian Anthem taken yesterday >> SlQkEAfX_xA you think that is cool.
Indeed this is a lot of major disinformation from all sides.
Bolsonaro tried for almost 4 years to prove the voting machine were hackable even with the help of the military and >> nothing.
for it's 34 years of political carrer, he never said anything and was always elected the way it is.
Here is the voting first hand with my own eyes:
Voting in Brazil is mandatory and you need to register to the TSE for it.
you get an photo ID and Biometry taken.
In order to vote you need to show ID, then you go check if your name is on the list, then you do Biometry then you vote.
There is no proof that vote filps even the military can't find it...
There is no black out in Brazil, I can access all website anywhere and all the news and alt news shows all but different version according to whatever narrative. There is a lot of fake news all right..
TomKat
3rd November 2022, 15:09
Looks like Biden had his fingers in the Brazilian election, and in fact is doing the same thing in the US midterms, warning against deniers, etc.
https://www.worldtribune.com/analysis-u-s-agencies-targeted-election-deniers-in-brazil-before-the-election/
Tucker Carlson talked about this yesterday
Ravenlocke
3rd November 2022, 16:16
https://twitter.com/GUnderground_TV/status/1588175309634953216
1588175309634953216
On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to former President of Brazil Lula Da Silva, credited with lifting 20 million of his fellow Brazilians out of poverty and into education. He discusses the Coronavirus pandemic and slams the response of the Jair Bolsonaro government, the role of Cuban doctors in the fight against Coronavirus, the reason why he is not President of Brazil and why Jair Bolsonaro is in power, the role of the US State Department, CIA and Department of Justice in removing the PT from power and in what he calls the coup against Dilma Rousseff, the alleged corruption of judge Sergio Morro and Deltan Dallagnol, the achievements of his administration in alleviating hunger and poverty and the rise of poverty and hunger again in Brazil, Brazil’s foreign policy under him and the US’ refusal to accept Brazil as an international player, the attempts to extradite Julian Assange to the United States, the oligarchic media structure in Brazil and more!
https://rumble.com/v1rafw0-archive-brazils-lula-da-silva-the-us-never-accepted-brazil-as-an-internatio.html
palehorse
3rd November 2022, 16:18
what about this Nazi salute signing the Brazilian Anthem taken yesterday >> SlQkEAfX_xA you think that is cool.
Indeed this is a lot of major disinformation from all sides.
Bolsonaro tried for almost 4 years to prove the voting machine were hackable even with the help of the military and >> nothing.
for it's 34 years of political carrer, he never said anything and was always elected the way it is.
Here is the voting first hand with my own eyes:
Voting in Brazil is mandatory and you need to register to the TSE for it.
you get an photo ID and Biometry taken.
In order to vote you need to show ID, then you go check if your name is on the list, then you do Biometry then you vote.
There is no proof that vote filps even the military can't find it...
There is no black out in Brazil, I can access all website anywhere and all the news and alt news shows all but different version according to whatever narrative. There is a lot of fake news all right..
The video about the TSE app, shows how many votes Bolsonaro had in that very small town, the person who made the video claimed that he voted for Bolsonaro, then it should show at least 1 vote (his vote), when actually it show 0 (ZERO) votes for Bolsonaro. There is no need to be a hacker, a genius or whatever.. it is just simple math. Explains that, how is that possible his vote does not show up in the final results??? This is only one case, there is more to come.
The Nazi salute was in Santa Catarina "Sao Miguel", I am not impressed seeing this sort of thing in Brazil, Nazi followers can be found almost everywhere in this state, the most Germanic state in Brazil, cities like Pomerode, Blumenau, Itajai, Xanxerê (this one is hardcore and brutal) are home for most German descendant, in Pomerode they even speak a German dialect until nowadays.. most people in Santa Catarina are center-right sort of liberal party.
Nazi escaped to Brazil and Argentina after 1945, most of them remained in Brazil and built families, companies, got involved in politics, and so on.. they are deep rooted everywhere in this state.
There is censorship going on on major televisions and internet in Brazil, they use whatsapp, facebook and youtube for almost everything, they are blocking accounts with simple words like "TSE Fraude".
... and on top of all that, there is a huge volume of fake news. Enjoy the ****show.
An old article about Nazi people living in Santa Catarina.
https://celebritycovernews.com/world-news/nazi-loving-teacher-who-named-son-adolf-forced-to-cover-up-massive-swastika-in-his-pool-after-cops-spot-it-in-chopper/
pacificator
3rd November 2022, 17:10
Bolsonaro can't come back on the voting system if it does it will withdraw all elected with him. it's not going to happen. the already elected with his endorsement won't let him.
what else his has: the military, I don't think so either because in his 24 hour of silence after the election he did call the military for options and he got nothing.
Politically, Bolsonaro is on the side line.
Ok, on his own he's trying to get massive manifestation.
Bolsonaro has so many investigations on him that in Jan 1 he will loose his presidencial protection and it will be a common Brazilian. that alone is making him nervous.
Bolsonaro did concede by asking Arthur Nogeira to head the transition.
It's kind of crazy over here I agree.
Who will need a bullet proof vest it's not Bolsonaro but Lula.
norman
4th November 2022, 17:57
Brazil at a Tipping Point After Stolen Election
Man in America - Published November 3, 2022
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Gwin Ru
4th November 2022, 18:14
...
... Flashbacks:
Flashback Best of the Web: Bolsonaro tells Brazilians that pandemic claims are 'exaggerated' and to stop being 'sissies' (https://www.sott.net/article/444195-Bolsonaro-tells-Brazilians-that-pandemic-claims-are-exaggerated-and-to-stop-being-sissies)
Flashback Best of the Web: Brazil's Bolsonaro alleges fraud in US presidential election (https://www.sott.net/article/445053-Brazils-Bolsonaro-alleges-fraud-in-US-presidential-election)
Flashback Best of the Web: YouTube censors videos by Brazilian President Bolsonaro for proclaiming efficacy of Covid-19 drugs ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine (https://www.sott.net/article/455894-YouTube-censors-videos-by-Brazilian-President-Bolsonaro-for-proclaiming-efficacy-of-Covid-19-drugs-ivermectin-hydroxychloroquine)
Flashback Best of the Web: Facebook takes down Bolsonaro video over false vaccine claim (https://www.sott.net/article/459935-Facebook-takes-down-Bolsonaro-video-over-false-vaccine-claim)
Flashback Best of the Web: Brazil election result 'surprises' globalist media, but is foul play afoot against Bolsonaro? (https://www.sott.net/article/472766-Brazil-election-result-surprises-globalist-media-but-is-foul-play-afoot-against-Bolsonaro)
Flashback Best of the Web: Bolsonaro shows huge early lead, but sees it disappear as statistically impossible one-way vote dumps put Lula ahead (https://www.sott.net/article/472775-Bolsonaro-shows-huge-early-lead-but-sees-it-disappear-as-statistically-impossible-one-way-vote-dumps-put-Lula-ahead)
norman
5th November 2022, 05:28
Mike Lindell: 5.1 Million Votes Stolen from Brazilian President Bolsonaro Through Voting Machines
November 2, 2022
2 minutes
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norman
5th November 2022, 20:07
Brazilian Truckers Protest - October 31, 2022
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/brazilian-truckers-protest/
São Paulo City Councilman Fernando Holiday joined the truckers' strike on the Dutra highway between Rio and São Paulo and published a video in which he says he does not accept the results of the national elections.
The alderman accuses the Supreme Federal Court and Minister Alexandre de Moraes of censorship and manipulation of electoral polls.
"As you can see, the road is completely stopped. For those who didn't believe that the truckers were going to protest the victory of former president Lula, they were very wrong" he said in the video.
"We will not give up for a day. The government of Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva needs to know the 'terror' it is to have us as an opposition," he said.
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norman
6th November 2022, 00:15
The latest video by Greg Reese!
Bolsonaro, Election Fraud And The Big Red Wave
TRANSCRIPT
Before his first election, the radical opposition attempted to assassinate Jair Bolsonaro. They failed and President Bolsonaro went on to be come today’s leading model of what a world leader should be: a man of the people.
He spoke out against the COVID pandemic hoax from the very beginning.
He thanked the farmers of Brazil for not shutting down. And now, the world is realizing that Bolsonaro was right. No matter how much the media tries to smear him, the people of Brazil love him (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/brazil-at-a-tipping-point-after-stolen-election/).
The awakening masses in Brazil, like everywhere else in the world were expecting election fraud (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/mike-lindell-5-1-million-votes-stolen-from-brazilian-president-bolsonaro-through-voting-machines/). And they have taken to the streets (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/brazilian-truckers-protest/).
All over Brazil, people are not willing to go the way of Joebama, the way of the World Economic Forum.
What will it take for the people to be represented?
And what will America do, if the anticipated Red Wave is stolen (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/true-the-votes-catherine-engelbrecht-delivers-message-from-prison/)?
Contributed by Alexandra Bruce
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palehorse
6th November 2022, 14:27
Here anyone can download all the files that prove the election was stolen. The website has some documents already translated into English, because the company doing the auditory in the elections in the same one that did when Trump election was stolen in US.
They have documents in English, Portuguese and Spanish.
https://brazilwasstolen.com/en/
There is a video of Alexandre de Moraes from TSE, getting out of a building in Sao Paulo, surrounded by police cordon and body guards, the people around pressuring and calling him a thief, liar, and all sort of very offensive words.
Things are literally exploding in Brazil.
Another interesting video going around with Bolsonaro saying they are doing everything is possible to cancel the elections.
De facto, it was stolen.
It worth the time reading what they write in this website.
https://forodesaopaulo.org/
The following countries are currently being governed by leaders and member parties of the Foro de São Paulo:
- Argentina – Alberto Fernández (Justicialist Party/Frente de Todos) (2019–present)
- Bolivia – Luis Arce (Movement for Socialism) (2020–present)
- Brazil – Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva (Workers' Party/Brazil of Hope) (assuming office 1 January 2023) <<<--- see how quickly wikipedia was to update this page.
- Chile – Gabriel Boric (Apruebo Dignidad) (2022–present)
- Colombia - Gustavo Petro (Historic Pact for Colombia) (2022–present)
- Cuba – Miguel Díaz-Canel (Communist Party of Cuba) (2018–present)
- Dominican Republic – Luis Abinader (Modern Revolutionary Party) (2020–present)[21]
- Honduras – Xiomara Castro (Liberty and Refoundation) (2022–present)
- Mexico – Andrés Manuel López Obrador (National Regeneration Movement) (2018–present)
- Nicaragua – Daniel Ortega (Sandinista National Liberation Front) (2007–present)
- Panama – Laurentino Cortizo (Democratic Revolutionary Party) (2019–present)
- Peru - Pedro Castillo (Formerly Free Peru) (2021-present)
- Saint Lucia – Philip J. Pierre (Saint Lucia Labour Party) (2021–present)
- Venezuela – Nicolás Maduro (United Socialist Party of Venezuela) (2013–present
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A3o_Paulo_Forum
Amigos, If Brazil fall into the hands of these psycho socialist/communists is game over for latino america, if I am not wrong Ecuador would be the last standing country.
https://images2.imgbox.com/a1/66/4fkAN1Ia_o.png
norman
7th November 2022, 07:29
Biden campaign bragged about rigging Brazilian election against Bolsonaro
Thursday, November 03, 2022 by: Ethan Huff
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-11-03-biden-campaign-bragged-rigging-brazilian-election-bolsonaro.html
https://www.naturalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2022/11/biden-fists-1.jpg
Foreign Policy magazine published an article (https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/83706/its-a-coup-team-biden-bragged-about-rigging-brazil-election-against-president-bolsonaro-before.html) this week admitting that Joe Biden and his people rigged the Brazilian election against Jair Bolsonaro, who lost by a very slim margin.
In what has been described as “rare, escalatory diplomatic meetings,” the Biden regime (https://naturalnews.com/2022-06-08-biden-mandates-corn-ethanol-gasoline-damage-engines.html), including members of the White House, Defense Department, State Department and CIA, threatened the Bolsonaro administration while spreading lies and misinformation to the corporate media.
CIA Director William Burns, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin all reportedly took turns threatening Bolsonaro for months leading up to the election, which was clearly rigged in much the same way as the 2020 presidential election here in the United States.
They were desperate to see socialist Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva win so they threw everything they had at destroying Bolsonaro – and it worked. But according to international politico Matthew Tyrmand, what happened in Brazil was “mathematically impossible.”
Recall from the 2020 election here in the U.S. that despite Joe Biden’s alleged “win,” there was no corresponding down ballot success. This means people supposedly voted for Biden while not voting for any other Democrats on the ticket, which is highly improbable.
Not only did every House Republican incumbent win in 2020, but the Republican Party as a whole gained a whopping 14 seats that year. Again, this makes little sense if Biden supposedly received more votes than any other president in history while the rest of his party lost the election.
“I’ve been involved in over 111 federal elections,” writes Ali Alexander. “There’s never been one like the American election in 2020 or the Brazilian election in 2022. Voters don’t vote in those patterns and data has never been tabulated in these patterns. Mass uniformity in ballot returns is statistically improbable.”
“Yet, it only occurs in elections where nationalist leaders (like both President Donald J. Trump and President Bolsonaro) were supposedly deposed? Give me a break!”
Brazil’s military possesses power to intervene when elections are fraudulent
The reason why Brazil’s election was apparently stolen is because Bolsonaro, much like Trump, was extremely vocal in his opposition to the radical Marxist agenda. He also opposed Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) restrictions, which is a major no-no that deeply upsets the globalists.
The good news for Brazil is that the country’s constitution allows for military intervention in elections. If suspicions arise surrounding an election’s legitimacy, the military has legal oversight and responsibility it can invoke as a fix.
“This election in Brazil must be audited,” Alexander says. “Those in the international order are undermining democracies in the name of saving, protecting, or fortifying them. They are the totalitarian monsters they pretend to be concerned with.”
“Worse, they are piss poor oligarchs to boot. They produce death, inflation, an energy crisis, and we are mere steps away from a nuclear world war. Patriots everywhere must stand up for sovereign states, governments ruled by citizens not bureaucrats, and fair elections.”
Alexander, by the way, appeared before the January 6th Select Committee to provide evidence exonerating Trump and conservative members of Congress who were accused of “plotting an insurrection” at the Capitol building. He is also suing Nancy Pelosi and her committee.
“As much as the Republican’ts pretend it was all the mean evil democrats that rigged the election against Trump, it was both parties working for the same people to rig the election,” one commenter wrote. “That’s why no Republican or Democrat will ever be held accountable.”
“It’s election time and the Republican’ts have to have something to whine about.”
Another responded to this in affirmation, noting that when Pope Francis appeared before Congress recently, members of both parties were seen “hysterically cheering together,” suggesting they are all the same.
The latest news about election fraud can be found at Rigged.news (http://rigged.news/).
norman
9th November 2022, 08:07
ELECTION FRAUD CLAIMS SWEEP BRAZIL
Matthew Tyrmand reacts to the allegations of election fraud in Brazil.
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palehorse
11th November 2022, 11:39
The military voice in Brazil already said, it is fraud, proved.
The thing now is, the ones who took over are laughing hard, Lula said (roughly translated) "The people has no power, we decide."
There is so much things going on in Brazil, most people I had talk they are losing hope already, some says they feel like the military was bought up.
I guess we have to see if in a week or so nothing change, just promises and the "almost" very same slogan "trust the plan", in Brazil is: "trust the captain".
Well folks let's see, but it started to smell bull**** for me.
norman
15th November 2022, 04:21
MEL K, MARCO ANTONIO COSTA & JEFF BRAIN | WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN BRAZIL 11-14-22
November 14th, 2022
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Ravenlocke
16th November 2022, 23:22
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1592985862035234816
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palehorse
20th November 2022, 05:14
There are rumors about the military locking up the country, all land borders, I know someone that lives in Paraguay in Ciudad del est, he said there is an unusual moving of military personal in the Brazilian side, places like Uruguaiana in the border with Argentina (Paso de los libres) allow free pass of citizens from both sides without the need of any visa, the checkpoint in the area (bridge) is on the Argentinian side only, and anyone crossing the place by foot, can and will avoid going through the checkpoint, I had been there myself, traveled in Argentina without a visa, also did the same in Paraguay, if you get caught you pay a small fine and play dumb, that's how it works there.
The thing is: Brazil make border with multiple countries (huge), it is just impossible to patrol the whole thing, people cross from one side to another by boat, or just walking through very often.. since the situation is escalating pretty quickly now, there is rumors that the communist parties from south america will invade Brazil with their "guerrilheiros" (I highly doubt that) in order to take over if Bolsonaro set the military in motion, the military are already moving around and working on the logistics, it seems they are going to take over.. and the leftist will claim it was a military coup and there will trigger the civil war in Brazil, probably the entire south america will join in the movement, people are not happy in so many countries, see what happened in Bolivia not long ago.
Folks for me, it sounds half speculation half true (I can smell some BS on it), it is not easy to understand the dynamic of places like Brazil.. I hope the people can take control, the military seems to be the best options for them, otherwise the new world order will take over Brazil and that would be the end of it as we know. Either way, there will be unhappy sides and it will trigger civil unrest. The question now is when? "Informed" people in Brazil says today (2022-11-20) is the deadline for announcement of the president on this subject. I am waiting for news on that subject, as far as I get some I will post here as it is.
Another thing I just saw, I am editing this post to add it...
Many big farmers in Brazil got their bank account frozen by TSE because they joined the movement. Large farmer producers already declared holiday for their workers and they are using their entire fleet of tractors and trucks to join the movement.
norman
24th November 2022, 14:08
Brazilians protesting election results have their bank accounts frozen
November 20, 2022
https://reclaimthenet.org/brazil-protesting-election-results-bank-accounts-frozen/
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Some Brazilians protesting President Jair Bolsonaro’s defeat are having their bank accounts frozen. The reports come days after the electoral court ordered the blocking of major social media accounts disputing the results.
Bolsonaro lost to Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva last month in a closely contested election by a 49.1% to 50.9% margin.
norman
27th November 2022, 20:55
Matthew Tyrmand: The Brazilian Military Stands With Bolsonaro And Is Prepared To Invoke Article 142 After The Court’s Complete Disregard Of Their Constitution
Bannons War Room Published November 26, 2022
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norman
30th November 2022, 20:57
Brazilian military declares Jair Bolsonaro the TRUE PRESIDENT
11/29/2022 / By Ramon Tomey
https://www.newstarget.com/2022-11-29-brazilian-military-declares-bolsonaro-the-true-president.html
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The Brazilian military has declared (https://newspunch.com/brazilian-military-declare-bolsonaro-true-president-of-brazil-media-blackout/) that incumbent President Jair Bolsonaro is the country’s true leader, backing the Brazilian people. This declaration came amid a blackout by the mainstream media (MSM) following Bolsonaro’s loss to his leftist rival Luiz Inacio Lula Da Silva during the country’s rigged Oct. 30 runoff.
According to a Revolver News report, the populist Bolsonaro is now huddling with the military (https://www.revolver.news/2022/11/breaking-report-matthew-tyrmand-the-brazilian-military-stands-with-bolsonaro-and-is-prepared-to-invoke-article-142/) to plot his next moves. It added that he has exhausted his legal options, with his election appeal being rejected by a corrupt justice of the Supreme Federal Court appointed by the opposition.
Alongside this, Brazilians have taken to the streets to voice out their displeasure toward the rigged elections that propelled Lula (https://rigged.news/) to a second stint in the federal capital Brasilia. “Truckers are blocking all highways. Farmers have blocked all ports from exporting agriculture,” the Revolver News piece said.
The protesters reiterated that their demands for the armed forces to step in is backed by Article 142 of the Brazilian Constitution, which states that the military has the role of “guaranteeing constitutional powers” under the “supreme authority of the president.” But the New York Times, an MSM publication, simply downplayed this provision by saying that it “does not allow the military to take control of the government” citing “constitutional lawyers and past court rulings.”
“The widespread protests and calls for the armed forces were an escalation of the … refusal [of Bolsonaro’s supporters] to accept the election of [Lula], a former president who many … view as a criminal because of his past corruption scandal.”
The Times reported that Bolsonaro “did not acknowledge his loss” to Lula and “supported peaceful protests inspired by ‘feelings of injustice in the electoral process'” in a two-minute speech. Many of the incumbent president’s followers considered the speech as a stamp of approval.
“What he said … gave me more energy to come [to protests],” said 22-year-old Larissa Oliveira da Silva. “After comments, I saw that he is on our side.”
[B]Pro-Bolsonaro protesters punished by having their bank accounts frozen
While supporters of Bolsonaro joined protests and exercised their right to free expression, Lula’s leftist allies in Brasilia retaliated by freezing the bank accounts (https://reclaimthenet.org/brazil-protesting-election-results-bank-accounts-frozen/) of some major supporters who took part in the demonstrations.
Alexandre de Moraes, a justice of Brazil’s high court, ordered the freezing of more than 40 bank accounts owned by people and companies connected to the protests. The magistrate justified his tyrannical actions by arguing that “repeated abuse of the right to assemble” merited the suspension of the protesters’ accounts.
“It is necessary, appropriate and urgent to block the bank accounts of those investigated, given the possibility of using resources to finance illicit and undemocratic acts, in order to stop the injury or threat to law,” Moraes explained. “Those who, by criminal means, have been taking part in anti-democratic acts will be treated like criminals.”
Bolsonaro’s continued silence over the matter only stoked the civil unrest, said Guilherme Casaroes, a political science professor at the Getulio Vargas Foundation think tank.
“With his silence, he keeps people in the streets. This is the great advantage he has today – a very mobilized and very radical base.”
One demonstrator, however, remarked that the populist Brazilian leader need not talk too much (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/pro-bolsonaro-protests-escalate-in-brazil-after-election-loss).
Joelma, a 49-year-old woman who participated in a protest outside a military facility in Rio de Janeiro, said: “We understand perfectly well why [Bolsonaro] doesn’t want to talk. They [the MSM] distort his words.”
Uprising.news (https://uprising.news/) has more stories about the ongoing anti-Lula protests in Brazil.
Watch Stew Peters as he discusses the rigged elections in Brazil (https://www.brighteon.com/76b36641-26e8-4e7b-9a55-a0eeb4bc8b7e) with Jovem Pan journalist Marco Antonio Costa below.
STOLEN ELECTION: RIOTS EXPLODE In Brazil, Total Media BLACKOUT In Brazil After RIGGED ELECTION - posted 22 days ago
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onawah
1st December 2022, 06:33
Brazil: A Last Stand in the Americas
11/30/22
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/brazil-a-last-stand-in-the-americas/
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"I wouldn’t have run across this film if General Michael Flynn hadn’t posted it on TRUTHSocial and I’m so glad that he did. It was the shock of recognition, to get a deeper understanding of the history that I’d lived through, albeit unknowingly.
I can be forgiven for not knowing, because this is the nature of subversion. Today, John F Kennedy’s April 27, 1961 now-hackneyed address before the American Newspaper Publisher’s Association rings truer than ever:
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. – John F Kennedy, April 27, 1961
Kennedy was talking about the Soviet Union but the Soviet Union was the creation of the same banker elite who are waging 5th Generation Warfare on the entire planet, as we speak.
In his 1993 book, ‘Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution’, Professor Anthony Sutton wrote that, “One of the greatest myths of modern history is that the Communist Revolution in Russia was a popular uprising of the downtrodden masses against the hated ruling class of the Tsars.”
What we find instead, is that the planning, the leadership and especially the financing of the Revolution came entirely from outside of Russia, mostly from financiers in Germany, Britain and the United States. The 1917 Communist Revolution in Russia was financed by the banker elite, led by Jacob Schiff, head of the New York investment firm Kuhn, Loeb and Company. He was also a major contributor to Woodrow Wilson’s presidential campaign and an advocate for passage of the Federal Reserve Act.
Black Lives Matter, the Marxist organization claiming to fight the power on behalf of the powerless is backed by the most powerful corporations on Earth. In July of 2020, one hundred of the largest companies in the US committed to donating over $1.6 billion to organizations “fighting racism and inequality”.
So, when we look at what’s happening throughout the Americas today, we can see that many of the destabilization tactics being used against us are at least a century old and they were deployed by the same financial elite group to create the Soviet Union and that BLM and Antifa are instruments of the descendants of these same invisible trillionaires.
Marcos Schotgues, a Brazilian journalist with the Epoch Times and its affiliate NTD has released this excellent English language translation of Part 1 of his two-part documentary series, ‘Brazil: A Last Stand in the Americas’, tracing the postwar history of the Communist agenda in Latin America, whose ramifications have been felt in the US, in the form of drug- and human-trafficking, as part of the Cloward-Piven strategy to collapse the US economy and ideally, to precipitate global Communism.
Lula da Silva is the corrupt, thrice-convicted felon who was sprung from prison and whose election was stolen for him by the Globalists using the same voting software that is stealing elections worldwide.
Lula barely even campaigned, just like Joe Biden, who belongs in prison (or worse) and whose election was stolen the exact same way.
Like Biden, Lula ran on a “climate action” agenda and he’s a little darling of the World Economic Forum and the Globalist press. The only people these Globalists want in office are these totally blackmailed, controlled, criminal dead men walking, like Biden, Lula, Tedros and Zelenskyy.
They are thugs and they’re stealing the world out from under us. Just ask the Dutch farmers.
The World Economic Forum’s Klaus Schwab, whose father was a Nazi and who represents the most powerful of the global elites admires Vladimir Lenin so much that he has himself filmed with Lenin’s bust prominently displayed behind him.
Globalism = Communism = The Great Reset = The China Model = The New World Order.
This film, ‘Brazil: A Last Stand in the Americas’ sheds light on the Latin American piece of the Globalists’ world domination puzzle. Part 2 of this series deals specifically with China’s Unrestricted Warfare campaign against Brazil (there is no English language version yet).
The story starts with the founding in 1990 of the São Paulo Forum to counter the defeat of Communism in Eastern Europe with the creation of a Communist bloc in Latin America. Among the founding members were Lula da Silva and Fidel Castro.
As author, Trevor Loudon explains in the film:
So it was set up, right from the start to bring together about 200 Latin American left-wing parties, Communist parties, Socialist parties, even terrorist organizations to coordinate and help each other, right across Latin America to elect leftist governments and they were very successful in the first decade.
Lula da Silva and his Workers’ Party is the model for Communist parties all around the world, because what he did was unite old-fashioned Communists and Trotskyists and Maoists and Liberation Theology Christians and Black activists all together under one umbrella.
The Workers’ Party was a coalition of the leftist groups to make them strong enough to win elections and that has been the model for political parties all through Latin America and even in Europe – even in New Zealand, my home country, we had an alliance party specifically designed on Lula’s Workers Party. The Democratic Socialists of America in the United States is modeled on the Workers’ Party of Brazil.
In the United States, Democratic Socialists of America, which has four members of Congress affiliated with the São Paulo Forum. So you’ve got a Latin American revolutionary organization that now has four members and many supporters in the US Congress but nobody in America knows that. Nobody in the United States knows that because nobody reports on it. Nobody even knows what the São Paulo Forum is.
Most of the Brazilian press is to the left, so they will not report on left hardcore Communist activities but the media is either unwilling to report on it or they’re scared to report on it, because there will be consequences for reporting on this organization.
After years of media denial, Lula thanked the São Paulo Forum for their support, as he had his legal conviction canceled and became eligible for the 2022 presidential race.
The Forum officially says it gathers 124 parties in 28 countries, including the Mir in Chile and the Venezuelan dictatorship’s party. In Brazil, there are five ,including the Democratic Labor Party, the Brazilian Communist Party, the Communist Party of Brazil and the Workers’ Party, with a total sum of 2,968 candidates proposed in the 2022 elections.
The Communist Party of Brazil and the Workers’ Party are in the coalition for the campaign of the organization’s founder, Lula.
Months before the Brazilian election, the case of Hugo “El Pollo” Carvajal came to light, a scandal that seemed to give weight to the claims and confessions about the São Paulo Forum and expose more about how it allegedly acts.
Nicknamed “El Pollo”, he was arrested in September 2021 in Spain. He was a general in the Venezuelan Army and the director of the country’s Military Intelligence. A testimony he gave to the Spanish courts reads:
“The Venezuelan government has illegally financed left-wing political movements around the world for at least 15 years. While I was the director of military intelligence and counter-intelligence for Venezuela, I received many reports showing that these international funding was happening.”
He quoted the list of people he accuses of having benefited from this, among them, the Kirschner family in Argentina, Evo Morales in Bolivia, Fernando Lugo in Paraguay, Ollanta Humala in Peru, Gustavo Petro, recently elected in Colombia and Lula Silva in Brazil. They were all linked to the São Paulo Forum. Brazil and Colombia, according to him were priorities.
The hard proof that the former General says he can provide are pending while he awaits to know details about his extradition to the US. People accused by him deny that the allegations were true but the allegations of illegal funding are less curious than the charge on which he was arrested.
“El Pollo” was indicted in the American justice system as part of the Cartel de los Soles, or Cartel of the Suns in English. Quoted as a criminal faction within the armed forces and other institutions in Venezuela. Venezuelan president, Nicolás Maduro, himself is also included in his indictment.
The former general was charged for partaking in what the court called a “narco-terrorism conspiracy” to, as the court documents stated, “Flood the United States with cocaine alongside the FARC.”
Something of note in the whole case and in the allegations that “El Pollo” made after his arrest was the presence, not only of agents linked to the São Paulo Forum but he mentioned one of its founding members, the Communist dictatorship of Cuba…
The American justices’ indictment of “El Pollo” Carvajal revealed more: This drug trafficking operation would not necessarily occur for money but to, in the words of the American courts, “Inflicts the drugs’ harmful and addictive effects” on users in the country.
The documents read: “Whereas, most drug-trafficking organizations in South and Central America have sought through recede from their roles in imparting narcotics into the United States, in an effort to avoid US prosecution, the Cartel de los Soles prioritized using cocaine as a weapon against America and importing as much cocaine as possible into the United States.”
The use of drug proceeds to prop up the Cuban regime and to underwrite Communist movements in Latin America goes back to 1960, according to ‘Red Cocaine’, a 1990 book, based mainly on testimony given by Jan Šejna, a major general in Communist Czechoslovakia during the Cold War and the second-highest-ranking officer to ever defect from the Communist Bloc to the US, who became a key source for American intelligence.
As Schotgues explains in the film:
According to Šejna, in the 1950s, the Soviet Union adopted the strategy of using drug trafficking and crime and corruption networks against so-called enemy countries, a strategy that dictator, Mao Zedong had also used in China. The São Paulo forum and Brazilian political agents could also be linked to this strategy.
Historically, the revolutionary value of drugs is twofold: One, you wither away…you degrade the morality of a society; Two, you create people who are willing to break the laws of that society and if you have people who are willing to break the laws of that society you then have people who are willing to do things that are unethical for money. Those are the types of people who can be hired, who can be recruited to be part of a revolutionary network or system.
Soviets mostly used the drug culture and those people for its attempted revolutions in the United States. The Chinese Communist Party’s done the same thing. When you get into Latin America, again ‘Red Cocaine’ talks about how they work for Cuba and so on, like that and Cuba being kind of the heart of the drug trade managing, in the US. Most of its operations were using spies and so on.
According to Šejna, Czechoslovakia’s secret service would send agents to 17 countries, to infiltrate various criminal factions. This included Latin America and Brazil. Terrorism would be incorporated into the drug trade, to further destabilize the targeted nations.
This was part of what the Soviets called “Basic Updated Revolutionary Strategy”.
Cuba entered the Soviet Bloc’s operation in 1960, a year after Fidel Castro’s Communist revolution. In 1966 at the Tricontinental Conference, it was decided Cuba would infiltrate agents in all operations in Latin America.
The Soviet strategy, coming from China and executed mainly through Cuba in the region was divided into five stages:
First, select and train revolutionary leaders as civil and military/intelligence covers;
The second step of the strategy was to train terrorists. This happened in disguise. Using a supposed struggle for liberation from “colonial powers” as a pretext, this guise of “National Liberation” was used to make intelligence operations look like movements of patriots fighting for their countries…
Cuba was one of several countries with training centers to teach crime and drug trafficking to activists, according to Šejna. In official declassified documents, the Brazilian Army confirms that the Cuban Communist Party provided guerrilla training to at least 202 Brazilian left-wing activists between 1965 and the 1971…
The third stage of the plan was international drug trafficking. Drug trafficking worked as a weapon in the Revolutionary War against the so-called “Bourgeoisie societies” and also recruited agents of inference around the world through crime. Fidel and Raúl Castro were described as great enthusiasts of this strategy.
Šejna said he had direct knowledge that by the mid-1960s, operations had been established in Colombia, Argentina, Peru, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Chile in the US, Canada, Brazil and others.
The fourth stage was infiltrating existing mafias and criminal organizations and establishing criminal unions controlled by the Soviet Bloc and the Communist movement.
Intelligence collection was a priority, with agents both inside the state and in organized crime, information would be gathered for blackmail operations against important targets in favor of the Communist movement.
Data was collected from both drug users and dealers. This made it possible to detect and recruit agents and offered a weapon to damage the reputation of people and organizations opposed to Soviet interests.
Šejna claims that by the end of the 1960s, the Soviets had information on corruption from more than 10,000 influential people in Latin America. This happened alongside the operations of the entire espionage apparatus of the Communist movement.
Former archivist in the Soviet Secret Service, Vasili Mitrokhin came from Russia to England in 1992. He copied and kept secret service documents.
The documents showed that former president of Argentina, Isabelita Perón was a Soviet confidential contact. Her finance minister was, as well.
In Brazil, at least one Diplomat was an agent. Soviet documents named Brazil as one of the five priority targets for operations in Latin America after 1974.
The fifth and final stage of the Soviet plan carried out through Cuba, as reported by Jan Šejna was to plan and prepare sabotage on a worldwide scale…
In 1987, three years before the São Paulo Forum came into being, a defector from the government of Nicaragua, a country run by members of The Forum said that the regime was still using drugs against the US. In his words, it is a form of warfare and it also brings profit.
Two Cuban military defectors confirmed that this was still occurring until at least the late 1980s, when they defected.
In 1989, Colombian drug traffickers pleaded guilty with video evidence of how the Cuban dictatorship aided drug trafficking. They said Fidel Castro even got a fee. This is the man who soon after created the São Paulo Forum, alongside Lula.
If what Šejna has said is true – and there’s wide evidence to support it is – to this day, thousands or more have had their lives and families destroyed by drugs and violent crimes linked to terrorist groups, without even knowing that this was, itself the goal; part of the revolutionary methods of the hard left in Latin America and the international Communist movement.
Šejna said that the strategy began to operate effectively in 1960. The FARC began to act formally in 1964, guaranteeing sanctuaries for illicit activities and inserting Colombia into the drug trade on an industrial scale…
From the point Šejna claims this plan started, entire nations seem to have become hostage to systematic corruption networks, not that different from those conceived in the referred Communist strategy…
[Trevor Loudon speaking]: “It’s a perfect tool for revolution, because revolution is about destroying the existing social order, so that a new one may be imposed. So it’s no surprise the Communists would be heavily involved in the drug trade. It’s basically at the top levels, if your government is heavily corrupted and dependent on Narco money, they’re not going to be fighting Communism.
“You know, they’re getting their drugs from the Communists they are going to roll over to the Communists, they’re going to make as much money as they can, then hopefully get out of the country before the Revolution. That’s what they’ll try and do. So, it corrupts business, politicians, media figures – and those who are not corrupted are too scared to stand against it, so there’s no opposition. Nobody’s going to stand against these people, because they’ll kill you or they’ll kill your family, so these whole countries are taken over and they are basically now tools of the Communists.
“Mexico is now basically a tool of the Communist movement, which is why it’s allowing hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to go through its country every day to flood the American Border, because they take drugs, they bring in terrorists and it’s part of the Revolution to destabilize America.
“So Lula and the São Paulo Forum were smart, you know? We will soften the image, we’ll not emphasize Communism, we’ll emphasize Social-Democracy an we will unite every party of the left that we can, from hardcore Communists to Social Democrat. We’ll run on a moderate, Social-Democratic program but we will bring our people into power, we all get money from the State, we will indoctrinate our children, we will control our media, we will make slow constitutional changes to basically make it harder and harder for conservatives to win and to embed our power in the main cities across Latin America and also into the agricultural areas through the ‘landless’ movements and and that kind of thing.
“So, it’s been a very slow process and it’s never been under the Communist flag, per se. It’s always been under the Social Democratic flag, the non-ideological left: ‘We’re opposed to the conservatives, we don’t like those authoritarian writers, we’re moderates, we just want to change our country to the better and we’ll work with the unions, we’ll work with elements of the churches and we will just gradually have progress in our countries.’
“But it’s always been a guise. It’s always been really under the Communist Banner. The São Paulo Forum doesn’t have a hammer and sickle in its symbol. It doesn’t fly the Communist flag overtly but it was put together by Fidel Castro and Lula da Silva and it has Communist parties in its ranks. But that’s never emphasized. It’s just the ‘social change’, the ‘equity’, the ‘fairness’ that is emphasized. Communism is being sold under a Socialist or a Social Democratic banner.
“And the goal is to work political power, then use the money of the State and the constitutional powers of the State to make things harder and harder for your enemy [conservatives] and easier and easier for you, to the point that they have enough power they can openly declare themselves Communists. By that time, it’s too late.
“And that’s the game for Brazil. That’s the game for Chile. Most people in Chile still do not understand they’ve elected Communist government there, even though there are Communist ministers, even though I can look at it and very clearly see a Communist government, you could look at it and see a Communist government but the average Chilean, they have no idea, because the media will not tell them.”
norman
4th December 2022, 12:38
GO TIME? Military Deploy in Brazil – “Martial Law Coming Next Week”
By Richard Abelson - Published December 3, 2022
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/go-time-military-deploying-brazil/
Military vehicles have been spotted mobilizing in Brazil as President Bolsonaro met with military leaders at a ceremony to promote new generals in Brazilía Thursday. “Martial law is coming next week”, says Brazil observer Matt Tyrmand. Elon Musk noted Twitter may have interfered with Brazilian elections.
A big article with lots of video at The Gateway Pundit. . . (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/go-time-military-deploying-brazil/)
norman
8th December 2022, 05:30
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Ravenlocke
16th December 2022, 21:53
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1603867093769805848
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norman
24th December 2022, 20:02
BRAZIL UPDATE: Military Movements Continue – “The Armed Forces Have to Act”
thegatewaypundit - By Richard Abelson - Published December 24, 2022
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/brazil-armed-forces-act/
Speaking to Steve Bannon, Matt Tyrmand said that “The coup is on Lula’s side. Justice Barroso said, ‘We don’t win elections, we take them. These are Communists.”
Deputy Colonel Tadeu of the Bolsonaro-allied Liberal Party has accused the Judiciary of “abuse of power”, as Jornal da Cidade reports: “The situation is getting unbearable. The time will come when the Armed Forces have to act, If Brazil starts to become a dictatorship, I believe the Army will act without anyone asking”, Tadeu told JCO TV. “We will not need to ask them to intervene.”
Timeline
By law, Bolsonaro should have left the Presidential Palace 15 days before powers is handed over to Lula on Jan. 1. This did not happen.
The Army, Navy, and Air Force Commanders Lula wants to replace have also remained in position.
Protests continue all over Brazil.
The (pro-Lula) Supreme Court has decided to buy its own APCs
The Armed Forces have begun exercises all over Brazil and signed a national mobilization order.
The Minister of Defense called up the reserves and called for volunteers to join the reserves.
Bolsonaro relocated 300 staffers to the Presidency.
Bolsonaro nominated 12 new diplomats, which the Senate approved.
Bolsonaro transferred many generals and promoted others, strengthening his support.
Bolsonaro authorized huge quantities of gasoline to be bought to fuel tanks and APCs.
The Ministry of Defence expropriated areas reserved for nuclear energy.
The Ministry of Defence signed up companies for the so-called Estado de Mobilization de guerra (mobilization state war).
The Parliament has gone on holiday, so there will not be interference from the Senate.
Lula only has a few days to make deals with the party.
The governor of Rio Grande do Sul broke off his relationship with Lula.
What will happen next?
https://rumble.com/v223rry-matthew-tyrmand-brazil-update.html
v1zhmws/?pub=4
Ravenlocke
27th December 2022, 20:35
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1607782407960416262
1607782407960416262
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1607783779619278849
1607783779619278849
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1607784821538922499
1607784821538922499
https://asiatimes.com/2022/12/asiatimes-com-2022-12-china-brazil-soft-power/
Can China help Brazil restart its global soft power?
Bolsonaro reduced Brazil to resources-exporter status; now Lula should follow Argentina’s lead into Belt and Road
by Pepe Escobar December 22, 2022
Ten days of full immersion in Brazil are not for the faint-hearted. Even restricted to the top two megalopolises, Sao Paulo and Rio, watching live the impact of interlocking economic, political, social and environmental crises exacerbated by the Jair Bolsonaro project leaves one stunned.
The return of Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva for what will be his third presidential term, starting January 1, 2023, is an extraordinary story trespassed by Sisyphean tasks. All at the same time he will have to
fight poverty;
reconnect with economic development while redistributing wealth;
re-industrialize the nation; and
tame environmental pillage.
That will force his new government to summon unforeseen creative powers of political and financial persuasion.
Even a mediocre, conservative politician such as Geraldo Alckmin, former governor of the wealthiest state of the union, Sao Paulo, and coordinator of the presidential transition, was simply astonished at how four years of the Bolsonaro project let loose a cornucopia of vanished documents, a black hole concerning all sorts of data and inexplicable financial losses.
It’s impossible to ascertain the extent of corruption across the spectrum because simply nothing is in the books: Governmental systems have not been fed since 2020.
Alckmin summed it all up: “The Bolsonaro government happened in the Stone Age, where there were no words and numbers.”
Now every single public policy will have to be created, or re-created from scratch, and serious mistakes will be inevitable because of lack of data.
And we’re not talking about a banana republic – even though the country concerned features plenty of (delicious) bananas.
By purchasing power parity (PPP), according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), Brazil remains the eighth-ranked economic power in the world even after the Bolsonaro devastation years – behind China, the US, India, Japan, Germany, Russia and Indonesia, and ahead of the UK and France.
A concerted imperial campaign since 2010, duly denounced by WikiLeaks, and implemented by local comprador elites, targeted the Dilma Rousseff presidency – the Brazilian national entrepreneurial champions – and led to Rousseff’s (illegal) impeachment and the jailing of Lula for 580 days on spurious charges (all subsequently dropped), paved the way for Bolsonaro to win the presidency in 2018.
Were it not for this accumulation of disasters, Brazil – a natural leader of the Global South – by now might possibly be placed as the fifth-largest geo-economic power in the world.
What the investment gang wants
Paulo Nogueira Batista Jr, a former vice-president of the New Development Bank (NDB), or BRICS bank, goes straight to the point: Brazil’s dependence on Lula is immensely problematic.
Batista sees Lula facing at least three hostile blocs.
The extreme right supported by a significant, powerful faction of the armed forces – and this includes not only Bolsonarists, who are still in front of a few army barracks contesting the presidential election result;
The physiological right that dominates Congress – known in Brazil as “The Big Center”;
International financial capital – which, predictably, controls the bulk of mainstream media.
The third bloc, to a great extent, gleefully embraced Lula’s notion of a United Front capable of defeating the Bolsonaro project (which project, by the way, never ceased to be immensely profitable for the third bloc).
Now they want their cut. Mainstream media instantly turned to corralling Lula, operating a sort of “financial inquisition,” as described by crack economist Luiz Gonzaga Belluzzo.
By appointing longtime Workers’ Party loyalist Fernando Haddad as finance minister, Lula signaled that he, in fact, will be in charge of the economy. Haddad is a political-science professor and was a decent minister of education, but he’s no sharp economic guru. Acolytes of the Goddess of the Market, of course, dismiss him.
Once again, this is the trademark Lula swing in action: He chose to place more importance on what will be complex, protracted negotiations with a hostile Congress to advance his social agenda, confident that all the lineaments of economic policy are in his head.
A lunch party with some members of Sao Paulo’s financial elite, even before Haddad’s name was announced, offered a few fascinating clues. These people are known as the “Faria Limers” – after the high-toned Faria Lima Avenue, which houses quite a few post-mod investment banks’ offices as well as Google and Facebook HQs.
Faria Lima Avenue in San Paulo. Photo: Wikimedia Commons
Lunch attendees included a smattering of rabid anti-Workers’ Party investors, the proverbial unreconstructed neoliberals, yet most were enthusiastic about opportunities ahead to make a killing, including an investor looking for deals involving Chinese companies.
The neoliberal mantra of those willing – perhaps – to place their bets on Lula (for a price) is “fiscal responsibility.” That frontally clashes with Lula’s focus on social justice.
That’s where Haddad comes up as a helpful, polite interlocutor because he does privilege nuance, pointing out that only looking at market indicators and forgetting about the 38% of Brazilians who only earn the minimum wage (1,212 Brazilian real or US$233 per month) is not exactly good for business.
The dark arts of non-government
Lula is already winning his first battle: approving a constitutional amendment that allows financing of more social spending.
That allows the government to keep the flagship Bolsa Família welfare program – of roughly $13 a month per poverty-level family – at least for the next two years.
A stroll across downtown Sao Paulo – which in the 1960s was as chic as mid-Manhattan – offers a sorrowful crash course on impoverishment, shut-down businesses, homelessness and raging unemployment. The notorious “Crack Land” – once limited to a street – now encompasses a whole neighborhood, much like junkie, post-pandemic Los Angeles.
Rio offers a completely different vibe if one goes for a walk in Ipanema on a sunny day, always a smashing experience. But Ipanema lives in a bubble. The real Rio of the Bolsonaro years – economically massacred, de-industrialized, occupied by militias – came up in a roundtable downtown where I interacted with, among others, a former energy minister and the man who discovered the immensely valuable pre-salt oil reserves.
In the Q&A, a black man from a very poor community advanced the key challenge for Lula’s third term: To be stable, and able to govern, he has to have the vast poorest sectors of the population backing him up.
This man voiced what seems not to be debated in Brazil at all: How did there come to be millions of poor Bolsonarists – street cleaners, delivery guys, the unemployed? Right-wing populism seduced them – and the established wings of the woke left had, and still have, nothing to offer them.
Addressing this problem is as serious as the destruction of Brazilian engineering giants by the Car Wash “corruption” racket. Brazil now has a huge number of well-qualified unemployed engineers. How come they have not amassed enough political organization to reclaim their jobs? Why should they resign themselves to becoming Uber drivers?
José Manuel Salazar-Xirinachs, the new head of the UN Economic Commission on Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC), may carp about the region’s economic failure as even worse now than in the “lost decade” of the 1980s: Average annual economic growth in Latin America in the decade up to 2023 is set to be just 0.8%.
Yet what the UN is incapable of analyzing is how a plundering neoliberal regime such as Bolsonaro’s managed to “elevate” to unforeseen toxic levels the dark arts of little or no investment, low productivity and less than zero emphasis on education.
President Dilma in da house
Lula was quick to summarize Brazil’s new foreign policy – which will go totally multipolar, with emphasis on increasing Latin American integration, stronger ties across the Global South and a push to reform the UN Security Council (in sync with BRICS members Russia, China and India).
Mauro Vieira, an able diplomat, will be the new foreign minister. But the man fine-tuning Brazil on the world stage will be Celso Amorim, Lula’s former foreign minister from 2003 to 2010.
In a conference that reunited us in Sao Paulo, Amorim elaborated on the complexity of the world Lula is now inheriting, compared with 2003. Yet along with climate change the main priorities – achieving closer integration with South America, reviving Unasur (the Union of South American Nations) and re-approaching Africa – remain the same.
And then there’s the Holy Grail: “good relations with both the US and China.”
The Empire, predictably, will be on extreme close watch. US national security adviser Jake Sullivan dropped in to Brasilia, during the fist days of the World Cup soccer tournament, and was absolutely charmed by Lula, who’s a master of charisma. Yet the Monroe Doctrine always prevails. Lula getting closer and closer to BRICS – and the expanded BRICS+ – is considered virtual anathema in Washington.
Jake Sullivan and Lula in Brasilia on November 28. Photo: Ricardo Stuckert
So Lula will play most overtly in the environment arena. Covertly, it will be a sophisticated balancing act.
The combo behind US President Joe Biden called Lula to congratulate him soon after the election results. Sullivan was in Brasilia setting the stage for a Lula visit to Washington. Chinese President Xi Jinping for his part sent him an affectionate letter, emphasizing the “global strategic partnership” between Brazil and China. Russian President Vladimir Putin called Lula earlier this week – and emphasized their common strategic approach to BRICS.
China has been Brazil’s top trade partner since 2009, ahead of the US. Bilateral trade in 2021 hit $135 billion. The problem is lack of diversification and focus on low added value: iron ore, soybeans, raw crude and animal protein accounted for 87.4% of exports in 2021. China exports, on the other hand, are mostly high-tech manufactured products.
Brazil’s dependence on commodity exports has indeed contributed for years to its rising foreign reserves. But that implies high concentration of wealth, low taxes, low job creation and dependence on cyclical price oscillations.
There’s no question China is focused on Brazilian natural resources to fuel its new development push – or “peaceful modernization,” as established by the latest Party Congress.
But Lula will have to strive for a more equal trade balance in case he manages to restart the nation as a solid economy. In 2000, for instance, Brazil’s top export item was Embraer jets. Now, it’s iron ore and soybeans; yet another dire indicator of the ferocious de-industrialization operated by the Bolsonaro project.
China is already investing substantially in the Brazilian electric sector – mostly due to state companies being bought by Chinese companies. That was the case in 2017 of State Grid buying CPFL in Sao Paulo, for instance, which in turn bought a state company from southern Brazil in 2021.
From Lula’s point of view, that’s inadmissible: a classic case of privatization of strategic public assets.
A different scenario plays in neighboring Argentina. Buenos Aires in February became an official partner of the New Silk Roads, or Belt and Road Initiative, with at least $23 billion in new projects on the pipeline. The Argentine railway system will be upgraded by – who else? – Chinese companies, to the tune of $4.6 billion.
The Chinese will also be investing in the largest solar energy plant in Latin America, a hydroelectric plant in Patagonia, and a nuclear energy plant – complete with transfer of Chinese technology to the Argentine state.
Lula, beaming with invaluable soft power not only personally when it comes to Xi but also appealing to Chinese public opinion, can get similar strategic partnership deals, with even more amplitude. Brasilia may follow the Iranian partnership model – offering oil and gas in exchange for building critical infrastructure.
Inevitably, the golden path ahead will be via joint ventures, not mergers and acquisitions. No wonder many in Rio are already dreaming of high-speed rail linking it to Sao Paulo in just over an hour, instead of the current, congested highway journey of six hours (if you’re lucky).
A key role will be played by former president Dilma Rousseff, who had a long, leisurely lunch with a few of us in Sao Paulo, taking her time to recount, in minutiae, everything from the day she was officially arrested by the military dictatorship (January 16, 1970) to her off-the-record conversations with then-German chancellor Angela Merkel, Putin, and Xi.
President Dilma Rousseff during a bilateral meeting with the president of the People’s Republic of China, Xi Jinping, at the G20 Saint Petersburg summit in 2013. Photo: Wikimedia Commons
It goes without saying that her political – and personal – capital with both Xi and Putin is stellar. Lula offered her any post she wanted in the new government. Although still a state secret, this will be part of a serious drive to polish Brazil’s global profile, especially across the Global South.
To recover from the previous, disastrous six years – which included a two-year no man’s land (2016-2018) after the impeachment of president Dilma – Brazil will need an unparalleled national drive of re-industrialization at virtually every level, complete with serious investment in research and development, training of specialized work forces and technology transfer.
There is a superpower that can play a crucial role in this process: China, Brazil’s close partner in the expanding BRICS+. Brazil is one of the natural leaders of the Global South, a role much prized by the Chinese leadership.
The key now is for both partners to establish a high-level strategic dialogue – all over again. Lula’s first high-profile foreign visit may be to Washington. But the destination that really matters, as we watch the river of history flow, will be Beijing.
norman
27th December 2022, 20:43
That's what's so queer about the modern 'left' when pushed into daylight, it loves weapons more than plough shares. Power more than creativity and honest work.
Even if exploitation of labour was completely dealt with and vanished, I can't see the lefties coming out blinking into the sunlight, any more. I used to think they would, but I've learned a hell of a lot more about the human condition since those days. All that hate and resentment went straight to hell, and fighting, kicking and cheating to rule hell is no ambition I can align with.
palehorse
28th December 2022, 05:00
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1607782407960416262
1607782407960416262
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1607783779619278849
1607783779619278849
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1607784821538922499
1607784821538922499
https://asiatimes.com/2022/12/asiatimes-com-2022-12-china-brazil-soft-power/
Can China help Brazil restart its global soft power?
Bolsonaro reduced Brazil to resources-exporter status; now Lula should follow Argentina’s lead into Belt and Road
by Pepe Escobar December 22, 2022
Ten days of full immersion in Brazil are not for the faint-hearted. Even restricted to the top two megalopolises, Sao Paulo and Rio, watching live the impact of interlocking economic, political, social and environmental crises exacerbated by the Jair Bolsonaro project leaves one stunned.
The return of Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva for what will be his third presidential term, starting January 1, 2023, is an extraordinary story trespassed by Sisyphean tasks. All at the same time he will have to
fight poverty;
reconnect with economic development while redistributing wealth;
re-industrialize the nation; and
tame environmental pillage.
That will force his new government to summon unforeseen creative powers of political and financial persuasion.
Even a mediocre, conservative politician such as Geraldo Alckmin, former governor of the wealthiest state of the union, Sao Paulo, and coordinator of the presidential transition, was simply astonished at how four years of the Bolsonaro project let loose a cornucopia of vanished documents, a black hole concerning all sorts of data and inexplicable financial losses.
It’s impossible to ascertain the extent of corruption across the spectrum because simply nothing is in the books: Governmental systems have not been fed since 2020.
Alckmin summed it all up: “The Bolsonaro government happened in the Stone Age, where there were no words and numbers.”
Now every single public policy will have to be created, or re-created from scratch, and serious mistakes will be inevitable because of lack of data.
And we’re not talking about a banana republic – even though the country concerned features plenty of (delicious) bananas.
By purchasing power parity (PPP), according to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), Brazil remains the eighth-ranked economic power in the world even after the Bolsonaro devastation years – behind China, the US, India, Japan, Germany, Russia and Indonesia, and ahead of the UK and France.
A concerted imperial campaign since 2010, duly denounced by WikiLeaks, and implemented by local comprador elites, targeted the Dilma Rousseff presidency – the Brazilian national entrepreneurial champions – and led to Rousseff’s (illegal) impeachment and the jailing of Lula for 580 days on spurious charges (all subsequently dropped), paved the way for Bolsonaro to win the presidency in 2018.
Were it not for this accumulation of disasters, Brazil – a natural leader of the Global South – by now might possibly be placed as the fifth-largest geo-economic power in the world.
What the investment gang wants
Paulo Nogueira Batista Jr, a former vice-president of the New Development Bank (NDB), or BRICS bank, goes straight to the point: Brazil’s dependence on Lula is immensely problematic.
Batista sees Lula facing at least three hostile blocs.
The extreme right supported by a significant, powerful faction of the armed forces – and this includes not only Bolsonarists, who are still in front of a few army barracks contesting the presidential election result;
The physiological right that dominates Congress – known in Brazil as “The Big Center”;
International financial capital – which, predictably, controls the bulk of mainstream media.
The third bloc, to a great extent, gleefully embraced Lula’s notion of a United Front capable of defeating the Bolsonaro project (which project, by the way, never ceased to be immensely profitable for the third bloc).
Now they want their cut. Mainstream media instantly turned to corralling Lula, operating a sort of “financial inquisition,” as described by crack economist Luiz Gonzaga Belluzzo.
By appointing longtime Workers’ Party loyalist Fernando Haddad as finance minister, Lula signaled that he, in fact, will be in charge of the economy. Haddad is a political-science professor and was a decent minister of education, but he’s no sharp economic guru. Acolytes of the Goddess of the Market, of course, dismiss him.
Once again, this is the trademark Lula swing in action: He chose to place more importance on what will be complex, protracted negotiations with a hostile Congress to advance his social agenda, confident that all the lineaments of economic policy are in his head.
A lunch party with some members of Sao Paulo’s financial elite, even before Haddad’s name was announced, offered a few fascinating clues. These people are known as the “Faria Limers” – after the high-toned Faria Lima Avenue, which houses quite a few post-mod investment banks’ offices as well as Google and Facebook HQs.
Faria Lima Avenue in San Paulo. Photo: Wikimedia Commons
Lunch attendees included a smattering of rabid anti-Workers’ Party investors, the proverbial unreconstructed neoliberals, yet most were enthusiastic about opportunities ahead to make a killing, including an investor looking for deals involving Chinese companies.
The neoliberal mantra of those willing – perhaps – to place their bets on Lula (for a price) is “fiscal responsibility.” That frontally clashes with Lula’s focus on social justice.
That’s where Haddad comes up as a helpful, polite interlocutor because he does privilege nuance, pointing out that only looking at market indicators and forgetting about the 38% of Brazilians who only earn the minimum wage (1,212 Brazilian real or US$233 per month) is not exactly good for business.
The dark arts of non-government
Lula is already winning his first battle: approving a constitutional amendment that allows financing of more social spending.
That allows the government to keep the flagship Bolsa Família welfare program – of roughly $13 a month per poverty-level family – at least for the next two years.
A stroll across downtown Sao Paulo – which in the 1960s was as chic as mid-Manhattan – offers a sorrowful crash course on impoverishment, shut-down businesses, homelessness and raging unemployment. The notorious “Crack Land” – once limited to a street – now encompasses a whole neighborhood, much like junkie, post-pandemic Los Angeles.
Rio offers a completely different vibe if one goes for a walk in Ipanema on a sunny day, always a smashing experience. But Ipanema lives in a bubble. The real Rio of the Bolsonaro years – economically massacred, de-industrialized, occupied by militias – came up in a roundtable downtown where I interacted with, among others, a former energy minister and the man who discovered the immensely valuable pre-salt oil reserves.
In the Q&A, a black man from a very poor community advanced the key challenge for Lula’s third term: To be stable, and able to govern, he has to have the vast poorest sectors of the population backing him up.
This man voiced what seems not to be debated in Brazil at all: How did there come to be millions of poor Bolsonarists – street cleaners, delivery guys, the unemployed? Right-wing populism seduced them – and the established wings of the woke left had, and still have, nothing to offer them.
Addressing this problem is as serious as the destruction of Brazilian engineering giants by the Car Wash “corruption” racket. Brazil now has a huge number of well-qualified unemployed engineers. How come they have not amassed enough political organization to reclaim their jobs? Why should they resign themselves to becoming Uber drivers?
José Manuel Salazar-Xirinachs, the new head of the UN Economic Commission on Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC), may carp about the region’s economic failure as even worse now than in the “lost decade” of the 1980s: Average annual economic growth in Latin America in the decade up to 2023 is set to be just 0.8%.
Yet what the UN is incapable of analyzing is how a plundering neoliberal regime such as Bolsonaro’s managed to “elevate” to unforeseen toxic levels the dark arts of little or no investment, low productivity and less than zero emphasis on education.
President Dilma in da house
Lula was quick to summarize Brazil’s new foreign policy – which will go totally multipolar, with emphasis on increasing Latin American integration, stronger ties across the Global South and a push to reform the UN Security Council (in sync with BRICS members Russia, China and India).
Mauro Vieira, an able diplomat, will be the new foreign minister. But the man fine-tuning Brazil on the world stage will be Celso Amorim, Lula’s former foreign minister from 2003 to 2010.
In a conference that reunited us in Sao Paulo, Amorim elaborated on the complexity of the world Lula is now inheriting, compared with 2003. Yet along with climate change the main priorities – achieving closer integration with South America, reviving Unasur (the Union of South American Nations) and re-approaching Africa – remain the same.
And then there’s the Holy Grail: “good relations with both the US and China.”
The Empire, predictably, will be on extreme close watch. US national security adviser Jake Sullivan dropped in to Brasilia, during the fist days of the World Cup soccer tournament, and was absolutely charmed by Lula, who’s a master of charisma. Yet the Monroe Doctrine always prevails. Lula getting closer and closer to BRICS – and the expanded BRICS+ – is considered virtual anathema in Washington.
Jake Sullivan and Lula in Brasilia on November 28. Photo: Ricardo Stuckert
So Lula will play most overtly in the environment arena. Covertly, it will be a sophisticated balancing act.
The combo behind US President Joe Biden called Lula to congratulate him soon after the election results. Sullivan was in Brasilia setting the stage for a Lula visit to Washington. Chinese President Xi Jinping for his part sent him an affectionate letter, emphasizing the “global strategic partnership” between Brazil and China. Russian President Vladimir Putin called Lula earlier this week – and emphasized their common strategic approach to BRICS.
China has been Brazil’s top trade partner since 2009, ahead of the US. Bilateral trade in 2021 hit $135 billion. The problem is lack of diversification and focus on low added value: iron ore, soybeans, raw crude and animal protein accounted for 87.4% of exports in 2021. China exports, on the other hand, are mostly high-tech manufactured products.
Brazil’s dependence on commodity exports has indeed contributed for years to its rising foreign reserves. But that implies high concentration of wealth, low taxes, low job creation and dependence on cyclical price oscillations.
There’s no question China is focused on Brazilian natural resources to fuel its new development push – or “peaceful modernization,” as established by the latest Party Congress.
But Lula will have to strive for a more equal trade balance in case he manages to restart the nation as a solid economy. In 2000, for instance, Brazil’s top export item was Embraer jets. Now, it’s iron ore and soybeans; yet another dire indicator of the ferocious de-industrialization operated by the Bolsonaro project.
China is already investing substantially in the Brazilian electric sector – mostly due to state companies being bought by Chinese companies. That was the case in 2017 of State Grid buying CPFL in Sao Paulo, for instance, which in turn bought a state company from southern Brazil in 2021.
From Lula’s point of view, that’s inadmissible: a classic case of privatization of strategic public assets.
A different scenario plays in neighboring Argentina. Buenos Aires in February became an official partner of the New Silk Roads, or Belt and Road Initiative, with at least $23 billion in new projects on the pipeline. The Argentine railway system will be upgraded by – who else? – Chinese companies, to the tune of $4.6 billion.
The Chinese will also be investing in the largest solar energy plant in Latin America, a hydroelectric plant in Patagonia, and a nuclear energy plant – complete with transfer of Chinese technology to the Argentine state.
Lula, beaming with invaluable soft power not only personally when it comes to Xi but also appealing to Chinese public opinion, can get similar strategic partnership deals, with even more amplitude. Brasilia may follow the Iranian partnership model – offering oil and gas in exchange for building critical infrastructure.
Inevitably, the golden path ahead will be via joint ventures, not mergers and acquisitions. No wonder many in Rio are already dreaming of high-speed rail linking it to Sao Paulo in just over an hour, instead of the current, congested highway journey of six hours (if you’re lucky).
A key role will be played by former president Dilma Rousseff, who had a long, leisurely lunch with a few of us in Sao Paulo, taking her time to recount, in minutiae, everything from the day she was officially arrested by the military dictatorship (January 16, 1970) to her off-the-record conversations with then-German chancellor Angela Merkel, Putin, and Xi.
President Dilma Rousseff during a bilateral meeting with the president of the People’s Republic of China, Xi Jinping, at the G20 Saint Petersburg summit in 2013. Photo: Wikimedia Commons
It goes without saying that her political – and personal – capital with both Xi and Putin is stellar. Lula offered her any post she wanted in the new government. Although still a state secret, this will be part of a serious drive to polish Brazil’s global profile, especially across the Global South.
To recover from the previous, disastrous six years – which included a two-year no man’s land (2016-2018) after the impeachment of president Dilma – Brazil will need an unparalleled national drive of re-industrialization at virtually every level, complete with serious investment in research and development, training of specialized work forces and technology transfer.
There is a superpower that can play a crucial role in this process: China, Brazil’s close partner in the expanding BRICS+. Brazil is one of the natural leaders of the Global South, a role much prized by the Chinese leadership.
The key now is for both partners to establish a high-level strategic dialogue – all over again. Lula’s first high-profile foreign visit may be to Washington. But the destination that really matters, as we watch the river of history flow, will be Beijing.
what a fine piece of trash huh, Scobar??? what a joke.
Lula, Alckmin, Dilma all top notch professional thieves and gangsters. They are good when they are dead.
The left wing in Brazil is extremist, they are terrorists, every thing they touch they corrupt.
Going further Lula is a murderer, he ordered the killings of majors and others that stepped in his way.
I am not afraid in saying that, I can provide hard proof if you want. It is already common sense in Brazil, only the scam of earth supports Lula over there.
palehorse
28th December 2022, 05:14
BRAZIL UPDATE: Military Movements Continue – “The Armed Forces Have to Act”
thegatewaypundit - By Richard Abelson - Published December 24, 2022
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/brazil-armed-forces-act/
Speaking to Steve Bannon, Matt Tyrmand said that “The coup is on Lula’s side. Justice Barroso said, ‘We don’t win elections, we take them. These are Communists.”
Deputy Colonel Tadeu of the Bolsonaro-allied Liberal Party has accused the Judiciary of “abuse of power”, as Jornal da Cidade reports: “The situation is getting unbearable. The time will come when the Armed Forces have to act, If Brazil starts to become a dictatorship, I believe the Army will act without anyone asking”, Tadeu told JCO TV. “We will not need to ask them to intervene.”
Timeline
By law, Bolsonaro should have left the Presidential Palace 15 days before powers is handed over to Lula on Jan. 1. This did not happen.
The Army, Navy, and Air Force Commanders Lula wants to replace have also remained in position.
Protests continue all over Brazil.
The (pro-Lula) Supreme Court has decided to buy its own APCs
The Armed Forces have begun exercises all over Brazil and signed a national mobilization order.
The Minister of Defense called up the reserves and called for volunteers to join the reserves.
Bolsonaro relocated 300 staffers to the Presidency.
Bolsonaro nominated 12 new diplomats, which the Senate approved.
Bolsonaro transferred many generals and promoted others, strengthening his support.
Bolsonaro authorized huge quantities of gasoline to be bought to fuel tanks and APCs.
The Ministry of Defence expropriated areas reserved for nuclear energy.
The Ministry of Defence signed up companies for the so-called Estado de Mobilization de guerra (mobilization state war).
The Parliament has gone on holiday, so there will not be interference from the Senate.
Lula only has a few days to make deals with the party.
The governor of Rio Grande do Sul broke off his relationship with Lula.
What will happen next?
https://rumble.com/v223rry-matthew-tyrmand-brazil-update.html
v1zhmws/?pub=4
Yesterday I had a chat with my old relative living in Brazil, he said the current president (Bolsonaro) until 31/12/2022 already spoke about the article 142 which gives the power for the 3 forces in the country, they will then set up a military junta, and the elections will be cancelled.
It is 4 days from now, the 3 forces will act as "moderators" of the situation in the country until new elections can be held again. The people of Brazil already demonstrated on streets and made it clear what they want which goes exactly as the article says, the request for intervention must come from the people.
article 142 source:
PT: Artigo 142 da Constituição Federal de 1988
EN: Article 142 of the 1988 Federal Constitution
https://www.jusbrasil.com.br/topicos/10673887/artigo-142-da-constituicao-federal-de-1988
Ravenlocke
28th December 2022, 15:21
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Ravenlocke
28th December 2022, 15:27
https://twitter.com/IndiaToday/status/1607572497603637249
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https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/resident-jair-bolsonaro-call-arms-inspired-foiled-brazil-bomb-plot-cops-2313984-2022-12-27
Prez Bolsonaro's call to arms inspired foiled Brazil bomb plot: Cops
Police have been told that the man arrested for attempting to set off a bomb in protest against Brazil's election result was inspired by far-right President Jair Bolsonaro's call to arms.
By Reuters: A man arrested for attempting to set off a bomb in protest against Brazil's election result was inspired to build up an arsenal by far-right President Jair Bolsonaro's call to arms, according to a copy of his police testimony seen by Reuters.
George Washington de Oliveira Sousa was arrested on Saturday, the day after police said they foiled his plot to set off an explosive device near the Brasilia airport.
The incident added a new dimension to post-election violence in Brazil, where tensions remain high after the most fraught election in a generation.
Incoming Justice Minister Flavio Dino said in a television interview on Monday that security would need to be beefed up for Sunday's inauguration of leftist President-elect Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who defeated the incumbent Bolsonaro.
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"We're not talking about a lone wolf," Dino said of Sousa. "There are powerful people behind this and the police will investigate. We won't allow political terrorism in Brazil."
Sousa's initial lawyer, Wallison dos Reis Pereira, said he had confessed and was cooperating with police. His current lawyer, Jorge Chediak, said he had yet to speak with Sousa, who is in jail, but said his confession to police was full of "contradictions."
A 54-year-old gas station manager from the northern state of Para, Sousa told police that Bolsonaro's sowing of election doubts inspired his Dec. 12 journey to the capital.
After arriving in Brasilia, he joined an encampment of pro-Bolsonaro election-deniers outside the army headquarters who were calling for a coup.
"My trip to Brasilia was so I could join the protests in front of the army headquarters and wait for the armed forces to authorize me to take up arms and destroy communism," he said, according to the copy of his testimony.
Sousa said he had become a registered gun-owner, known as CAC, in October last year, joining a group that has swelled sixfold to nearly 700,000 people since Bolsonaro was elected in 2018 and began loosening gun laws.
He said he had invested nearly 160,000 reais ($30,800) since then to grow his arsenal. He said he took two 12-gauge shotguns, two revolvers, three pistols, a rifle, over a thousand rounds and five sticks of dynamite with him on his drive to Brasilia.
"What motivated me to buy the guns were the words of President Bolsonaro, who always emphasized the importance of civilians being armed by saying, 'An armed population will never be enslaved,'" Sousa said.
He added that he planned to share his weapons with other CAC-holders in the Brasilia camp. On Dec. 12, the day Lula's victory was certified, some of the camp-dwellers attacked the federal police HQ in Brasilia.
Sousa said he enjoyed some level of official support.
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After the Dec. 12 attack, he said police and firemen near the camp told him they would not arrest any protesters for vandalism, as long as they did not attack cops. Their comments led him to believe that "the armed forces' intervention would be declared soon."
But as the weeks passed without a coup, he said he and others in the camp came up with a plan to prevent Lula from taking office. Their idea, he said, was "to provoke a military intervention and the decree of a state of siege to prevent the installation of communism in Brazil."
An initial scheme was to blow up a bomb in the car park of Brasilia's airport, followed by anonymous tips of two more bombs in the departure lounge, he said. The plotters also considered blowing up an electrical sub-station, he added.
Sousa told police he built the bomb on Dec. 23, using the dynamite he had brought with him from Para, and a remote triggering device that someone else in the camp gave him. He said he handed the bomb to a fellow camp-dweller, asking him to install it by the sub-station as "I did not agree with the idea of exploding it in the airport carpark."
That same day, Sousa saw on the news that police had found the bomb near the airport. The following day, after seeing strange men near his rented apartment, he decided to pack his bags and put his weapons in the trunk of his car to leave Brasilia, but wa
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Bolsonaro's call to arms inspired foiled Brazil bomb plot, suspect tells police
BRASILIA –
A man arrested for attempting to set off a bomb in protest against Brazil’s election result was inspired to build up an arsenal by far-right President Jair Bolsonaro’s call to arms, according to a copy of his police testimony seen by Reuters.
George Washington de Oliveira Sousa was arrested Saturday, the day after police said they foiled his plot to set off an explosive device near Brasilia Airport.
The incident added a new dimension to post-election violence in Brazil, where tensions remain high after the most fraught vote in a generation.
Incoming Justice Minister Flavio Dino said in a television interview Monday that security would need to be strengthened for Sunday’s inauguration of leftist President-elect Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who defeated the incumbent Bolsonaro.
“We’re not talking about a lone wolf,” Dino said of Sousa. “There are powerful people behind this and the police will investigate. We won’t allow political terrorism in Brazil.”
Sousa’s initial lawyer, Wallison dos Reis Pereira, said he had confessed and was cooperating with police. His current lawyer, Jorge Chediak, said he had yet to speak with Sousa, who is in jail, but said his confession to police was full of “contradictions.”
A 54-year-old gas station manager from the northern state of Para, Sousa told police that Bolsonaro’s sowing of election doubts inspired his Dec. 12 journey to the capital.
After arriving in Brasilia, he joined an encampment of pro-Bolsonaro election-deniers, outside the army headquarters, who were calling for a coup.
“My trip to Brasilia was so I could join the protests in front of the army headquarters and wait for the armed forces to authorize me to take up arms and destroy communism,” he said, according to the copy of his testimony.
Sousa said he had become a registered gun-owner, known as CAC, in October last year, joining a group that has swelled sixfold to nearly 700,000 people since Bolsonaro was elected in 2018 and began loosening gun laws.
He said he had invested nearly 160,000 reais ($30,800) since then to grow his arsenal. He said he took two 12-gauge shotguns, two revolvers, three pistols, a rifle, over a thousand rounds and five sticks of dynamite with him on his drive to Brasilia.
“What motivated me to buy the guns were the words of President Bolsonaro, who always emphasized the importance of civilians being armed by saying, ‘An armed population will never be enslaved,'” Sousa said.
He added that he planned to share his weapons with other CAC-holders in the Brasilia camp. On Dec. 12, the day Lula’s victory was certified, some of the camp-dwellers attacked the federal police HQ in Brasilia.
Sousa said he enjoyed some level of official support. After the Dec. 12 attack, he said police and firemen near the camp told him they would not arrest any protesters for vandalism as long as they did not attack police officers. Their comments led him to believe that “the armed forces’ intervention would be declared soon.”
But as the weeks passed without a coup, he said he and others in the camp came up with a plan to prevent Lula from taking office. Their idea, he said, was “to provoke a military intervention and the decree of a state of siege to prevent the installation of communism in Brazil.”
An initial scheme was to blow up a bomb in the car park of Brasilia’s airport, followed by anonymous tips of two more bombs in the departure lounge, he said. The plotters also considered blowing up an electricity substation, he added.
Sousa told police he built the bomb on Dec. 23, using the dynamite he had brought with him from Para, and a remote triggering device that someone else in the camp gave him. He said he handed the bomb to a fellow camp-dweller, asking him to install it by the substation as “I did not agree with the idea of exploding it in the airport car park.”
That same day, Sousa saw on the news that police had found the bomb near the airport. The following day, after seeing strange men near his rented apartment, he decided to pack his bags and put his weapons in the trunk of his car to leave Brasilia, but was arrested by police before he could depart.
Ravenlocke
28th December 2022, 15:35
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-bolsonaro-election-loss-could-cut-brazilian-amazon-deforestation-by-89/
Analysis: Bolsonaro election loss could cut Brazilian Amazon deforestation by 89%
A loss for Jair Bolsonaro in the upcoming Brazilian presidential election could lead to Amazon deforestation in his nation falling by 89% over the next decade, according to new analysis conducted for Carbon Brief.
A victory for left-wing challenger and current frontrunner Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva – commonly known as Lula – could avoid 75,960km2 of Amazon rainforest loss by 2030, the analysis shows – an area roughly the size of Panama. This would also significantly curb Brazil’s emissions when accompanied by a new focus on forest restoration.
This assumes that Lula would follow through on a pledge to address illegal deforestation in the Amazon, in line with his previous presidency, while Bolsonaro would continue to oversee weak environmental governance that allows such activities to continue. It also assumes these conditions would remain the same out to 2030.
The analysis, by researchers at the University of Oxford, the International Institute for Applied System Analysis (IIASA) and the National Institute for Space Research (INPE), models the implementation of Brazil’s Forest Code, the country’s flagship legislation for tackling deforestation in the Amazon and other ecosystems.
There are many factors that could influence the future of the Amazon, but the results highlight the impact that enforcing environmental legislation could have after years of neglect under Brazil’s current right-wing leader.
(31/10/2022: Lula has won a very slim majority in the second round of the presidential election, ousting Bolsonaro. In his victory speech, the veteran left-wing politician pledged to fight for zero deforestation and said he was open to international cooperation to protect the Amazon.)
Amazon election
Brazil is the world’s sixth-largest emitter of greenhouse gases, largely due to the carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from deforestation and the methane from cattle pastures on cleared land. Its land-use emissions also make it the fourth-largest historical emitter.
By far the main driver of deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon is beef production, with soybeans for animal feed a distant second. The nation is the largest beef exporter in the world, primarily serving markets in China and the US.
All of this gives global significance to the Brazilian government’s approach to deforestation and big agribusiness expansion.
For the past four years since his election, right-wing president Bolsonaro has weakened existing environmental protections and legitimised illegal activity. As the chart below shows, deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon has increased since he took power, wiping out 34,018km2 of rainforest, an area larger than Belgium, in his first three years.
Forest loss in the Brazilian Amazon (km2) under different presidents, including Lula (red) and Bolsonaro (blue). Source: Program to Calculate Deforestation in the Amazon (PRODES), INPE. Chart made by Josh Gabbatiss for Carbon Brief using Highcharts.
This is because, despite pledging to end illegal deforestation by 2030, in reality the president has thrown his support behind the nation’s powerful agricultural sector, allowing them to operate without restrictions and spread into Indigenous lands.
In contrast, between 2003 and 2010, when Lula was last president, deforestation in the Amazon fell by around three-quarters from a peak in 2004. Forest loss remained low under his fellow Workers’ Party politician Dilma Rouseff, who held the presidency until she was removed from office in 2016.
Lula, who is Bolsonaro’s main challenger in the upcoming presidential election after a spell in prison on controversial corruption charges, has published a manifesto referencing this past success. It notes that:
“In our governments, we have reduced deforestation by almost 80% in the Amazon, the largest contribution ever made by a country to mitigate climate change between 2004 and 2012.”
It adds that Lula intends to repeat these achievements, while mentioning plans to tackle illegal deforestation and invest in forest restoration.
With Brazil heading to the polls on 2 October, there are signs that a victory for Lula could see a reversal of the downward trend in environmental standards that has marked Bolsonaro’s time in office.
No Forest Code
To explore the implications of each presidential candidate winning the upcoming election, new analysis for Carbon Brief projects the future of the Brazilian Amazon under two different scenarios.
It is a refined update of a 2018 study that assessed the implementation of Brazil’s flagship Forest Code. It uses the GLOBIOM-Brazil model, which computes land-use change, while accounting for the production of dozens of agricultural products, global trade and various other factors, and its initial land-use data comes from MapBiomas.
The Forest Code, first introduced in 1965, remains Brazil’s main law to reduce deforestation. It requires landowners to preserve a certain proportion of forest on their property and restore land that has been illegally deforested.
Deforestation of isolated brazil nut trees to make way for a soy plantation in the Amazon rainforest near Santarem, 1 August 2020. Credit: BrazilPhotos / Alamy Stock Photo.
Changes over the past decade have benefited many landowners and the code has been poorly enforced under Bolsonaro.
Dr Aline Soterroni is the researcher who led the analysis, along with colleagues at the University of Oxford, the International Institute for Applied System Analysis and National Institute for Space Research (INPE) as part of the Agile, Nature-based Solutions and Oxford Net Zero Initiatives.
Soterroni tells Carbon Brief that under a baseline scenario in which the Forest Code continues being ignored, “annual deforestation rates in the Amazon are projected to stay above 10,000km2, on average, this decade”.
This can be seen in the chart below, with levels remaining at roughly the same level as they have been during Bolsonaro’s presidency so far. (The modelling runs from 2000 to 2050 in five-year steps. In the chart, model outputs were divided into years and begin from 2022.)
Forest loss in the Brazilian Amazon (km2) under different presidents, including Lula (red) and Bolsonaro (blue), and projected future forest loss in a “baseline” scenario in which the Forest Code is not implemented, using results from the GLOBIOM-Brazil model. For values beyond 2021, total deforestation in calculated in five-year intervals and then divided across the period. Source: University of Oxford, Program to Calculate Deforestation in the Amazon (PRODES), INPE. Chart made by Josh Gabbatiss for Carbon Brief using Highcharts.
Soterroni notes that a slight dip in projected deforestation in the coming years can be attributed to modelling assumptions on technological changes and smaller growth rates in demand for Brazilian beef, soy and other products when compared to previous years.
Experts tell Carbon Brief that despite references to addressing illegal deforestation in his manifesto, there is little reason to think the Forest Code would be enforced under Bolsonaro. Carlos Rittl, a senior policy advisor at Rainforest Foundation Norway, says:
“If he remains in power in 2023, no one should expect that Bolsonaro’s war against the Amazon, Indigenous people, environmental legislation, including the Forest Code, and science to monitor forests and land use [to] change.
In fact, Rittl says that, in his view, a victory for Bolsonaro would likely see the pace of deforestation accelerate in the coming years, including “huge” areas beyond the scope of the Forest Code.
Forest Code observed
In contrast, while Lula was president between 2003 and 2010, the downward trend in deforestation has been attributed to an array of measures including improved satellite monitoring systems, new protected areas and enhanced enforcement of the Forest Code.
The second modelled scenario involves the full implementation of the Forest Code, including an end to illegal deforestation as well as restoration of illegally degraded areas and other measures to protect forests.
As the chart below shows, this sees deforestation levels drop by 89%, from 13,038km2 in 2021 to 1,480km2 at the end of the decade. In percentage terms, this is a comparable reduction to the one that took place during Lula’s last eight-year presidency.
Forest loss in the Brazilian Amazon (km2) under different presidents, including Lula (red) and Bolsonaro (blue), and projected future forest loss in a scenario in which the Forest Code is implemented, using results from the GLOBIOM-Brazil model. For values beyond 2021, total deforestation in calculated in five-year intervals and then divided across the period. Source: University of Oxford, Program to Calculate Deforestation in the Amazon (PRODES), INPE. Chart made by Josh Gabbatiss for Carbon Brief using Highcharts.
While they say complete enforcement could be difficult, experts are optimistic about Lula’s adherence to the Forest Code. Dr Grace Iara Souza, a fellow of the King’s College Brazil Institute, tells Carbon Brief:
“Lula has a track record of conservation and control policies from past mandates…There is hope that Lula’s government will be mindful of the global climate change and the Amazonian tipping point concerns and will restore the Forest Code.”
Rittl notes the recent reunion of Lula and his former environment minister Marina Silva, who oversaw much of his administration’s successes in the Amazon. The two politicians, who had fallen out in recent years, met to discuss “proposals for a more sustainable Brazil”.
There are many challenges facing a president wanting to curb illegal deforestation, not least the fact that much of it has been taking place on illegally occupied public lands subject to “land grabbing” in recent years. There has also been a surge in illegal gold mining on Indigenous lands under Bolsonaro.
Lula would also have to rebuild the nation’s environmental agencies and infrastructure, operating on the lowest environmental budget a Brazilian government has had in decades.
Dr Brenda Brito, an associate researcher at the research institute Imazon, tells Carbon Brief a sudden drop in deforestation, of the kind implied by the five-year intervals of the model, is unlikely:
“I think it’s more likely to expect a drop next year similar to the one observed between 2004 to 2005 (around 30%) and then higher cuts in the deforestation rate as the government reorganises the environmental institutions that were significantly weakened under Bolsonaro`s government and implement additional policies.”
Rittl concludes: “It won’t be an easy task. However, it would be an administration that would work for the enforcement of environmental laws, which includes the Forest Code.”
Source to sink
In total, the modelling covers the whole of Brazil, including changes across a variety of landscapes such as savannas, natural grassland and other ecosystems, as well as rainforests.
Many of the regions most vulnerable to farmland conversion – such as the central Cerrado region – are not, in fact, in the Amazon. Even in the Forest Code scenario, Soterroni notes that 330,000km2 of native vegetation would disappear by 2050, especially in the Cerrado and the north-eastern Caatinga region.
This can be seen in the maps below, which show the distribution of deforestation (red) and ecosystem restoration (green) across the whole 2021-2050 period the model runs for, under the baseline (left) and Forest Code (green) scenarios. It shows a particularly marked reduction in deforestation in the Amazon region in the north-west if the code is implemented.
These changes would have significant implications for Brazil’s climate targets.
Bolsonaro has committed to a net-zero emissions target by 2050, but the credibility of this goal has been questioned. Experts have noted that Brazil’s land-use sector would be essential to achieving such a target, but the latest data suggests CO2 emissions from the Amazon under Bolsonaro have been double the average for the previous eight years.
In its analysis of total land-use emissions, which make up roughly one-third of Brazil’s total greenhouse gas emissions, the new modelling shows the impact of addressing deforestation and promoting ecosystem restoration.
The chart below shows land-use emissions across Brazil under the baseline scenario, with tree-planting (purple) offsetting a small amount of emissions but the sector remaining a net source out to 2050. Crucially, these numbers are higher than reality as they do not include carbon removals from native forests.
Emissions from land use, land-use change and forestry (LULUCF) in Brazil at five-year intervals between 2020 and 2050, under the “baseline” scenario where the Forest Code is not implemented. Negative values for ecosystem restoration (blue) and afforestation (purple) indicate emissions that have been removed from the atmosphere. Source: University of Oxford. Chart made by Josh Gabbatiss for Carbon Brief using Highcharts.
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However, a very different picture emerges if the Forest Code is implemented, meaning landowners have to restore large areas that have been illegally deforested in the past.
As the chart below shows, emissions removals from the combination of ecosystem restoration and afforestation would be nearly cancelled out emissions from land-use change by 2035 and the sector would become a carbon sink by 2040.
Emissions from land use, land-use change, and forestry (LULUCF) in Brazil at five-year intervals between 2020 and 2050, under the scenario where the Forest Code is implemented. Negative values for ecosystem restoration (blue) and afforestation (purple) indicate emissions that have been removed from the atmosphere. Source: University of Oxford. Chart made by Josh Gabbatiss for Carbon Brief using Highcharts.
These results show the importance of the Forest Code and other measures to curb deforestation and enhance restoration, if Brazil is to stand a chance of achieving its net-zero target by the middle of the century.
norman
29th December 2022, 10:36
Waw, he's going see in the new year and the expected inauguration, with President Donald Trump.
Interesting . . and interesting timing too
Report: Brazil's Bolsonaro to skip successor's inauguration for Mar-a-Lago vacation instead
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norman
8th January 2023, 20:58
SUPPORTERS OF FORMER PRESIDENT BOLSONARO HAVE TAKEN OVER THE PLANALTO PALACE
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Ravenlocke
7th April 2023, 17:00
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Ravenlocke
7th April 2023, 18:01
https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2023/04/05/brazil-election-court-could-ban-jair-bolsonaro-from-office-during-saudi-jewels-inquiry/
Brazil Election Court Could Ban Jair Bolsonaro from Office
Brazil’s Superior Electoral Tribunal (TSE) may soon impose a ban on former President Jair Bolsonaro from running for office, national media outlets reported this week, for allegedly having spread disinformation about the nation’s electoral system during an official encounter with diplomats in July.
The speculation over potential action by the TSE is ongoing alongside legal proceedings in a case against the former president over allegations of improper handling of jewels gifted to Brazil by the government of Saudi Arabia.
The former case’s rapporteur, TSE minister (judge) Benedito Gonçalves, informed Bolsonaro and his defense team on Friday that they had two working days to submit their closing arguments, as the TSE had concluded the instruction phase of the case.
Gonçalves is expected to release the case against Bolsonaro to be judged by Brazil’s Superior Electoral Tribunal on April 10. If a majority of the top court’s judges rule against Bolsonaro at the end of the trial, the former president may be banned from running for public office for a period of eight years, barring him from the 2026 presidential race.
“The rich body of evidence gathered in the records, which was formed with extensive participation of the parties and the [Electoral Public Ministry], exhausts the purposes of the instruction,” Gonçalves said. “Which is why it is necessary to close the present procedural stage.”
Bolsonaro stands accused of having allegedly spread misinformation about Brazil’s electoral ballot boxes and having questioned the nation’s electoral system during an official meeting with foreign ambassadors in July 2022, in the middle of the 2022 presidential election campaign.
Videos of the meeting between Bolsonaro and the ambassadors were removed from Facebook, Instagram, and Google in August after the TSE ordered their immediate deletion. The TSE fined Bolsonaro 20,000 Brazilian reais (roughly $3,966) for having asserted to the group of diplomats that Brazil’s electoral system was “completely vulnerable” without presenting evidence to sustain his claims.
The Electoral Court’s legal proceedings against the former president were carried out after Brazil’s Democratic Labour Party (PDT) filed a lawsuit against Bolsonaro in August demanding the former president be banned from running for office over his statements given at the meeting with ambassadors in July.
TSE’s actions are ongoing as Bolsonaro faces a second probe. The Brazilian Federal Police are investigating a set of jewelry that Bolsonaro claimed in an interview with CNN Brasil shortly before his return to the country was given to him and his wife Michelle Bolsonaro by the government of Saudi Arabia as gifts.
Bolsonaro, who returned to Brazil last week after spending three months in the United States, gave his deposition regarding the jewelry at the headquarters of the Brazilian Federal Police in Brasília on Wednesday afternoon. The Federal Police are conducting an investigation to determine if Bolsonaro committed a crime by attempting to keep the luxury jewelry in his possession.
The jewelry, estimated to have a value of 16.5 million Brazilian reais (roughly $3.27 million), was brought over to Brazil by former Energy and Mines Minister Bento Albuquerque in October 2021 after an official trip. Brazilian customs and tax authorities seized and retained the jewelry at the Guarulhos airport for failure to pay the required import duty fees.
Bolsonaro denied any irregularities pertaining to the jewelry during his interview with CNN Brasil, identifying them as gifts and insisting he had properly registered them with his government.
“If there was bad faith on the part of someone, they would not have been registered,” Bolsonaro told CNN. “Nothing was hidden. If the press divulges it, it is because there is a record saying that it was received.”
According to the Brazilian newspaper Estadao, Bolsonaro reportedly requested the release of the jewelry from the nation’s autonomous tax authorities on several opportunities, to no avail.
“It was sought, documentally, with letters,” Bolsonaro told CNN. “We sought to recover this material for the collection, by letter, no one wanted to seek it in the big hand [Brazilian slang term for thievery].”
Bolsonaro handed over another set of jewelry and firearms received from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates through his lawyers on March 24. The items are reportedly being stored at the Caixa Economica Federal state-owned bank at the request of a Brazilian court, which also ordered an audit of all of the gifts received by Bolsonaro during his presidency.
Brazilian law states that travelers entering or returning to Brazil with goods worth more than $1,000 are obligated to declare them at customs and pay hefty import taxes equivalent to 50 percent of the value of each item — failure to do so incurs in a fine amounting to 25 percent of the value of each undeclared item.
“I make it very clear; in 2021, a minister of ours went to the region [sic] of Saudi Arabia and got two gifts, one for me, one for the first lady,” Bolsonaro expressed to CNN. “The one for me, I learned at the end of last year that it had arrived. The first lady stayed at customs. She found out, and so did I, through the press.”
Ravenlocke
16th May 2023, 18:07
https://twitter.com/BrianMteleSUR/status/1658078900646289414
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https://twitter.com/BrianMteleSUR/status/1658081303697272833
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CGU states that Bolsonaro used the state for electoral purposes
Agency indicates that the government used a public machine to win 2022 elections, in addition to irresponsibility in the pandemic
A report by the Office of the Comptroller General of the Union (CGU) points out that the Bolsonaro government used the state's public machine to benefit in the 2022 elections.
From the observation of broken secrets and reviews of requests issued by the Access to Information Law, the agency reached a balance sheet of the use of the public machine for electoral purposes. The information is from Folha de São Paulo.
Review of secrets
It is through this review of secrecy that the controllers concluded the rigging of the state in favor of the incumbent of the executive at the time.
The data showed, for example, that the release of consigned loans from the Brazil Aid intensified in October 2022. However, the information remained confidential and was only disclosed after requests from the current government.
In addition, the expenses of the corporate card on motorcycle dates, or the actions of the PRF on the day of the second round in states with Lula's victory have become public with the opening of data from the Access to Information Law.
The Access to Information Law was an achievement of the PT governments and, this year, it will be 12 years old. Lula's management has committed to comply with the legislation, which gives more transparency to public spending.
Next week, the government is expected to announce new measures to regulate and make the use of the Access to Information Law more efficient.
For the CGU, the Bolsonaro administration inappropriately used secrecy to shield itself during the 2022 electoral process. The balance sheet of the body can serve for the action that tries to make the former president ineligible in the TSE.
Ravenlocke
16th May 2023, 18:18
https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1657063321374191616
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Ravenlocke
6th June 2023, 18:40
https://sputnikglobe.com/20230606/lula-unveils-plan-to-legalize-indigenous-lands-halt-illegal-amazon-deforestation-by-2030-1110962675.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Lula Unveils Plan to Legalize Indigenous Lands, Halt Illegal Amazon Deforestation by 2030
Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva made major moves to reverse the environmental course set by his predecessor, Jair Bolsonaro, including unveiling a plan to halt illegal deforestation in the Amazon and to set aside huge amounts of the rainforest for government protection.
“Brazil will once again become a global reference in sustainability, tackling climate change, and achieving targets for carbon emission reduction and zero deforestation,” Lula said on Monday.
Called the Action Plan for the Prevention and Control of Deforestation in the Amazon (PPCDAm), the plan will coordinate policy across more than a dozen Brazilian ministries. It calls for ending illegal deforestation by 2030 and achieving net zero deforestation, meaning just as much forest is being replanted as is cut down.
It will use satellite images to track criminal activity as well as to regularize land titles, and will create a rural registry to monitor correct forest management. It also aims to help degraded forests recover and increase the growth of native vegetation to undo some of the damage done by deforestation, which is driven in large part by cattle ranching.
The Brazilian Federation of Banks (Febraban) also announced that it would begin tying future lines of credit to Brazilian meat producers, including meatpackers and slaughterhouses, to environmental monitoring requirements. By the end of 2025, Brazilian meat companies that purchase cattle from Brazilian Amazon supplies will have to create a “traceability and monitoring system” for connections to illegal deforestation and the use of land in protected areas.
Febraban President Isaac Sidney said on Tuesday that banks “are at the center of [Brazil’s] supply chain” and that the move “will encourage actions to foster an increasingly sustainable economy.”
The financial sector “is aware of the need to advance in managing and mitigating social, environmental, and climate risks in business dealings with their clients, while also directing more resources towards financing the transition to the Green Economy,” he said.
Lula also announced that an Amazon reserve would be increased by 4,400 acres, and that another 140 million acres of public lands without special protection would be allocated - an area roughly the size of France.
In late April, Lula announced the creation of six new indigenous reserves, banning mining and most farming operations there. The areas cover some 1.5 million acres of the Amazon. Environment Minister Marina Silva said on Monday the government would begin the process of study toward creating more conservation units.
In addition, Lula also announced that Brazil, the world’s fifth-largest emitter of greenhouse gases, would commit to reducing carbon emissions by 37% by 2025 and 43% by 2030. The commitment is a substantial increase from the levels set by Bolsonaro, who retreated from prior commitments.
Roughly half of Brazil’s carbon emissions come from deforestation, which often uses a crude “slash and burn” method that pours carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. One recent estimate found that 800 million trees were felled in two years to make way for cattle ranching.
The 77-year-old left-wing president returned to office in January 2023 after defeating Bolsonaro in the presidential election. Lula was previously president from 2003 to 2010, part of the wave of left-wing governments that swept Latin America in what was called a “Pink Tide.” Since returning to office, Lula has set about reversing course on many of the right-wing Bolsonaro’s policies, including on the environment, and pushing new efforts to build economic and political systems not centered on Europe and North America.
The Amazon represents half of the planet’s remaining rainforest, and 60% of it sits inside Brazil’s borders. Scientists have said that preserving the dense forest is key to efforts to combat climate change and keep the planet from warming to a level that could be dangerous to humans.
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