Bernhard Guenther flips on his opinion of Q

[Savannah]

https://veilofreality.com/2020/06/20/qanon-the-great-awakening-psyop-or-the-real-deal/

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Qanon – The Great Awakening: PsyOp or the Real Deal?

By Bernhard Guenther, June 20, 2020
Chapters:

Introduction and Personal Reflections
Following the Rabbit and Disillusionment
Qanon’s Information and Strategy
Trump: The Trickster Archetype And The Art Of War
Critical Thinking and Self-Work
Project Looking Glass and Occult Chess Games
The Great Awakening and Divine Will
Doom and Gloom Fringe Conspiracies, i.e. “It’s all a trap!”
Non-Duality, Staying Neutral, and Spiritual Bypassing
Timeline-Reality Split and Converging Timeline
Good Guys in the Government? The Battle of STO vs STS
Checkmate: The Achilles Heel of the Matrix Forces and the Deep State
Evolutionary Astrology and the Pluto Return of the US
Conclusion and Resources

[thepainterdoug]

Savannah, can you give a summary of the takeaway? no worries if not.

[norman]

I'll confess I never knew who Bernhard Gunther was, but I'm encouraged by knowing another little light has flicked on.

[Waldo]

Savannah, can you give a summary of the takeaway? no worries if not.

skimming through it he seems to think it's legit, I think its a psyop, I choose Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I guess if I'm wrong I'll get another shot at it.

[wondering]

Hi Savannah, I have been on the fence about Q, mostly finding him/her obtuse. While I have not had previous contact with Bernhard’s writings, I am impressed with his thoroughness and apparent personal rigor in his evaluation. He clearly believes everyone is responsible for doing their own homework...hard to dispute that.
Waldo, I don’t see any connection between personal faith beliefs and Q....fairly separate to me. Explain? Diane

[Bluegreen]

Savannah, can you give a summary of the takeaway? no worries if not.

Cliff's Notes

Conclusion:

"So, is Qanon the real deal or just another Psyop in the history of COINTELPRO PsyOps? As I said throughout the essay, as of now I don’t see it as a PsyOp but give it more validity as the “real deal”. If it turns out to be “the mother of all PsyOps” and Q/Trump is ushering us into the absolute matrix prison of totalitarian globalist socialist A.I. technocratic control, well, then, I’ll be willing to admit that I was wrong but something tells me it’s not going to be that bleak and dark. Yet, only time will tell. I have faith in and trust the Divine.

However, I think most of us can agree and see that there is a deeper and greater awakening happening, with or without Q/Trump—and nothing can stop that from happening. In fact, you can’t stop it because it has already started, and you and I and all the Qanons are just along for the ride. How long it will take depends on our willingness to surrender, answer the call, align with Divine Will, as we all learn how to ride these great waves of change into an unknown world that has yet to be seen."

[Jad]

It’s a long article but very well put. There’s even a shout-out to Project Camelot’s interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.

[Bill Ryan]

It’s a long article but very well put. There’s even a shout-out to Project Camelot’s interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.Thanks. A brief response here!


Bill Wood was a wannabe hoaxer. ("Looking Glass" was real, though.)



I largely agree with Bernhard Guenther's initial assessment 3 months ago. Like most people, I just don't have time for riddles, goose chases and guessing games. Some people enjoy that, become intrigued, and get hooked, while others reject it all as wheel-spinning that goes nowhere for them, doesn't help them understand real issues any better, and is of little or no value. I want to access good, concise, referenced information that helps me figure things out in the shortest time possible.



I don't trust "The Plan" (even if I knew what it was!), and right now the US is rapidly sinking into a morass of leaderless chaos. I'd vote for Trump if I were a US citizen, but right now his chances of re-election are slipping every day. He's just not in control of what's happening in America now, at all. To all Americans reading this: you're in real danger of losing your country.



I truly and genuinely appreciate the request for my feedback on this piece, but I simply don't have time to read a 20,000 word article. (I balked and copied it to MS Word to see how long it was.) That'd need an hour of focused time. (At least with an hour-long video, I can play it at 1.25x the speed, and do other things at the same time.)

[Savannah]

It’s a long article but very well put. There’s even a shout-out to Project Camelot’s interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.Thanks. A brief response here!


Bill Wood was a wannabe hoaxer. ("Looking Glass" was real, though.)



I largely agree with Bernhard Guenther's initial assessment 3 months ago. Like most people, I just don't have time for riddles, goose chases and guessing games. Some people enjoy that, become intrigued, and get hooked, while others reject it all as wheel-spinning that goes nowhere for them, doesn't help them understand real issues any better, and is of little or no value. I want to access good, concise, referenced information that helps me figure things out in the shortest time possible.



I don't trust "The Plan" (even if I knew what it was!), and right now the US is rapidly sinking into a morass of leaderless chaos. I'd vote for Trump if I were a US citizen, but right now his chances of re-election are slipping every day. He's just not in control of what's happening in America now, at all. To all Americans reading this: you're in real danger of losing your country.



I truly and genuinely appreciate the request for my feedback on this piece, but I simply don't have time to read a 20,000 word article. (I balked and copied it to MS Word to see how long it was.) That'd need an hour of focused time. (At least with an hour-long video, I can play it at 1.25x the speed, and do other things at the same time.)


If you don't have time to read it or time to follow Q you that is a personal choice, however you should then not make a judgement about material you do not understand. Bernhard's article was long because this is a very complex time in our evolution of consciousness. Bullet point black and white thinking will lead to gross misinterpretations, simplification and what he initially found in himself, validating his own miss-truth.

[ClearWater]

I've finally completed the article. Contrary to what I expected going in, this article is NOT meant to provide any evidence supporting this man's change of opinion regarding Q. The author focuses largely on his own cognitive dissonance, which initially resulted in him dismissing Q without doing any research into it. The primary 'push' of the article is encouraging the reader to be aware of their own cognitive dissonance, using his change of opinion regarding Q as a case study of sorts. In addition to reviewing cognitive dissonance on an individual basis, the article also covers its impact on a more universal level, somewhat tying it into the Q phrase 'from darkness to light'. The author believes that a great change for the better is inevitable, and lays out how he sees Q as being a part of this by encouraging individuals to question everything, and to share their findings to assist others in awakening to 'truth'.

This is primarily a self-introspective article. I enjoyed it very much, but if anyone is hoping for an evidence based explanation of why Q is legit, this is not it. On the contrary, its purpose is to encourage readers to do their own investigation, and to explain why it's important to do that rather than to accept the authors opinion on the matter.

[Savannah]

I've finally completed the article. Contrary to what I expected going in, this article is NOT meant to provide any evidence supporting this man's change of opinion regarding Q. .

Your correct, he does not provide a classified document explicitly stating Q is real. He does however provide his reasoning and that of others who have come to the same conclusion. If your expectation was for more specifics on its realty that can be found on the Q thread and what is Q tread. David Hayes' book Calm Before The storm, also explain in basic simple way what is Q and to understand the information.If one Accepts that Q is a means of providing information outside the controlled mainstream media, then it wont be raveled as coming from the government until we have a free press again, because at that time we wont need it.

https://www.amazon.com/Calm-before-Storm-Chronicles-Book-ebook/dp/B0849KFDRP

[ClearWater]

I've finally completed the article. Contrary to what I expected going in, this article is NOT meant to provide any evidence supporting this man's change of opinion regarding Q. .

Your correct, he does not provide a classified document explicitly stating Q is real. He does however provide his reasoning and that of others who have come to the same conclusion. If your expectation was for more specifics on its realty that can be found on the Q thread and what is Q tread. David Hayes' book Calm Before The storm, also explain in basic simple way what is Q and to understand the information.If one Accepts that Q is a means of providing information outside the controlled mainstream media, then it wont be raveled as coming from the government until we have a free press again, because at that time we wont need it.

https://www.amazon.com/Calm-before-Storm-Chronicles-Book-ebook/dp/B0849KFDRP

Yes, I understand Savannah. I've been following the Q posts since November of 2017, and they are actually what brought me back to this forum after being away for many years.

I simply made an incorrect assumption of what the article was about, and felt it might be good to explain it's content in more detail in case others are making the same wrong assumption that I had.

Thank you for sharing the link. I enjoyed reading it.

[Soda]

It’s a long article but very well put. There’s even a shout-out to Project Camelot’s interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.Thanks. A brief response here!


Bill Wood was a wannabe hoaxer. ("Looking Glass" was real, though.)



I largely agree with Bernhard Guenther's initial assessment 3 months ago. Like most people, I just don't have time for riddles, goose chases and guessing games. Some people enjoy that, become intrigued, and get hooked, while others reject it all as wheel-spinning that goes nowhere for them, doesn't help them understand real issues any better, and is of little or no value. I want to access good, concise, referenced information that helps me figure things out in the shortest time possible.



I don't trust "The Plan" (even if I knew what it was!), and right now the US is rapidly sinking into a morass of leaderless chaos. I'd vote for Trump if I were a US citizen, but right now his chances of re-election are slipping every day. He's just not in control of what's happening in America now, at all. To all Americans reading this: you're in real danger of losing your country.



I truly and genuinely appreciate the request for my feedback on this piece, but I simply don't have time to read a 20,000 word article. (I balked and copied it to MS Word to see how long it was.) That'd need an hour of focused time. (At least with an hour-long video, I can play it at 1.25x the speed, and do other things at the same time.)


Bill if I may ask, what led you to reach the conclusion that Bill Wood was a "wannabe hoaxer"? Did you ever have the opportunity to watch his "goodbye" videos? I have actually sort of asked you this before and you said that "you would disregard anything Bill had to say" but I am not sure I understand why. Thank you so much. If you need to move this somewhere else or send me a PM as to not get off topic please do! Thanks again

[Waldo]

Hi Savannah, I have been on the fence about Q, mostly finding him/her obtuse. While I have not had previous contact with Bernhard’s writings, I am impressed with his thoroughness and apparent personal rigor in his evaluation. He clearly believes everyone is responsible for doing their own homework...hard to dispute that.
Waldo, I don’t see any connection between personal faith beliefs and Q....fairly separate to me. Explain? Diane

I think some people think Q is going to save them from whatever they fear happening. While I hope that there is a plan to stop globalization into a one world governing body my hope lies in the government promised in scriptures to those who believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His coming Kingdom.

[Bill Ryan]

It’s a long article but very well put. There’s even a shout-out to Project Camelot’s interview with Bill Wood about Project Looking Glass. I hope Bill reads it and gives us his 2 cents.Thanks. A brief response here!


Bill Wood was a wannabe hoaxer. ("Looking Glass" was real, though.)



I largely agree with Bernhard Guenther's initial assessment 3 months ago. Like most people, I just don't have time for riddles, goose chases and guessing games. Some people enjoy that, become intrigued, and get hooked, while others reject it all as wheel-spinning that goes nowhere for them, doesn't help them understand real issues any better, and is of little or no value. I want to access good, concise, referenced information that helps me figure things out in the shortest time possible.



I don't trust "The Plan" (even if I knew what it was!), and right now the US is rapidly sinking into a morass of leaderless chaos. I'd vote for Trump if I were a US citizen, but right now his chances of re-election are slipping every day. He's just not in control of what's happening in America now, at all. To all Americans reading this: you're in real danger of losing your country.



I truly and genuinely appreciate the request for my feedback on this piece, but I simply don't have time to read a 20,000 word article. (I balked and copied it to MS Word to see how long it was.) That'd need an hour of focused time. (At least with an hour-long video, I can play it at 1.25x the speed, and do other things at the same time.)



Bill if I may ask, what led you to reach the conclusion that Bill Wood was a "wannabe hoaxer"? Did you ever have the opportunity to watch his "goodbye" videos? I have actually sort of asked you this before and you said that "you would disregard anything Bill had to say" but I am not sure I understand why. Thank you so much. If you need to move this somewhere else or send me a PM as to not get off topic please do! Thanks againThanks for the question! There's a detailed thread all about him:


Bill Brockbrader ("Bill Wood") finally debunked (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57657-Bill-Brockbrader---Bill-Wood---finally-debunked)

See also this article, in which Don Shipley, himself a certified Navy Seal, showed that Bill Wood (Brockbrader) had lied about his Seal claims.


http://veteransresources.org/2015/06/phony-navy-seal-of-the-week-bill-brockbrader-the-pedophile-returns-part-1

And on top of all this, somewhere in my inbox (but I've not yet found it!) I did receive quite a nasty threatening email from him.

:focus: