Turmoil in China

[onawah]

Grim News from China
144,567 views•Premiered 17 hours ago
China in Focus - NTD
482K subscribers

(The callous disregard of the brutal Chinese Communist Party for the people of China continues unabated.
I had not been following the news from China much until recently when the spotlight began to focus on the 3 Gorges dam, which appears to be in danger of imminent collapse. More on that starting here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92384-Weird-wild-weather-floods-freak-storms-giant-hail-record-lows-all-over-the-world&p=1362704&viewfull=1#post1362704
But the reports of how the government is forcing people out of their homes in order to create new, more profitable developments is just as shocking in its own way as predictions of the massive damage the dam's collapse will bring.
Footage in this video of police in riot gear suddenly appearing in droves, tear gassing residents who were given next to no warning their homes would immediately be demolished.
Apparently that has been a common practice in poor communities, but now it is happening in more well-to-do communities as well.
If the collapse of the 3 Gorges would mean the end of the CCP's rule in China, probably even the Chinese people would welcome it, if there is no other way to oust the psychopaths.)

"China issues more flood warnings; Summer snow hits Xinjiang; Forced sterilization on China's Uyghurs
Beijing passed its national security law for Hong Kong, setting the stage for radical changes. According to the complete draft, the new law doesn’t just affect Hong Kong residents.
Hundreds of middle-class Beijing residents try to stop police from tearing down their homes. One expert says the move is an unusual one, as forced demolitions usually target those at the bottom of society.
The US is making a series of moves in the Indo-Pacific suggesting America might be taking real action to counter China’s coercive behaviors in the region and defend its allies.
In a strong move targeting China in the online space, India bans nearly 60 Chinese mobile apps. This is just the beginning of the anti-China sentiment in India.
And a new found strain of swine flu proving infectious to humans. A study says the strain has a potential pandemic threat, but experts warn not to overreact. "

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[onawah]

Floods Destroy Ming Dynasty Bridge; CCP Officials Told to Prepare for Global Crisis
44,865 views•Premiered 2 hours ago 7/7/2020
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
318K subscribers

(Thirty five more days of rain predicted for China in this video.)

"CCP officials are told to prepare for global crisis—including tensions with the United States, food shortages, currency wars, and others—and are being told to prepare “countermeasures”

Zhou Li, the former deputy minister of the CCP’s Central Liaison Department, tied to its political warfare programs, recently issued an article in China Social Science News stating “The Party Central Committee demands that our leading cadres at all levels ‘should adhere to the bottom line thinking and make a long-term ideological preparation and work preparation for responding to changes in the external environment."’

And a 400-year-old bridge was destroyed by the floods in Shanxi Town in Anhui, China, which had been built during the Ming Dynasty. The destruction of the second largest stone arch bridge in the region was one of the latest scenes in the ongoing floods in 26 provinces and cities in China. And in HuangShan, AnHui, JingdeZhen, ShangRao, Yichang, Changyang, and other parts of China the heavy rains continue to collapse roads and destroy homes.

These stories and more in this episode of Crossroads."

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More here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92384-Weird-wild-weather-floods-freak-storms-giant-hail-record-lows-all-over-the-world&p=1365063&viewfull=1#post1365063

[Richter]

And China might be facing it's 'Lehman Brothers' moment...

Gold Scam has begun a chain-reaction that China can’t control. Its biggest shadow bank collapses (5:42)
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[onawah]

3 Gorges Dam lastest Update! Does the United States dip their hands?
•Premiered Jul 6, 2020
Q22 REPORT

(CCP's new "national security laws" threatening backlash against criticism of the CCP, including coming from outside, even to extraditing critics from other countries.
Hostile new restrictions and retaliations against Hong Kong, Taiwan, Australia, India, and in the case of the US particularly, press outlets based in China.
The new law declares they have the right to prosecute retroactively, and punish with life imprisonment.
One insider businessman from Hong Kong says the CCP is barbaric, made up of gangsters, and predicts huge international backlash. )
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[Richter]

3 Gorges Dam: Collapse Simulation done by China Authorities (11:33)
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[onawah]

9,000 People Evacuated In Jianxi, China; Financial Troubles For Chinese Military Company?
393,812 views
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
331K subscribers
07/09/2020

"In Jiangxi Province, close to 9,000 villagers were evacuated when a dike broke. The break was about 164 feet long. Close to 2,471 acres of farmland are affected.

In Guangzhou Province, people were also evacuated after the Fengdongling mountain started to crack; and in Sichuan Province close to 7,100 people were evacuated after the Guanghan Jinyan Fireworks factory exploded.

And a Chinese military-linked company has defaulted on 2 billion RMB ($285 million) in bonds, raising questions about the real state of the Chinese economy.

These stories and more in this episode of Crossroads.1. In Guizhou Province, villages were partially buried by a large landslide from the TongRedn mountain.
2. In JianXi Province, meanwhile, close to 9,000 villagers were evacuated when a dike broke.
3. The Chinese regime, meanwhile, has acknowledged a similar disaster at the Hangzhou reservoir, where water discharge has impacted close to 300,000 people and submerged 12 villages.
4. The Three Gorges Dam, waters are still being discharged non-stop.
5. A fireworks factory in Sichuan Province exploded. 7,100 people were evacuated.
6. Hong Kong to potentially lockdown once again.
7. Trump Administration Launches ‘Operation Legend.’
8. FBI Director Christopher Wray warns about threats of the CCP
9. A Chinese military-linked company has defaulted on 2 billion RMB ($285 million) in bonds, raising questions about the real state of the Chinese economy.
10. WHO acknowledges possibility virus is airborne
11. Sunday Times is reporting that a virus similar to the CCP Virus was sent to Wuhan in 2013."
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[edina]

On the topic of the "3 Gorges Dam", when I first noticed this development back on 23 June, I immediately thought of the 1998 Maori prophecy posted on Stan Deyo's site (https://standeyo.com/Reports/Maori.html).

She said that there would be an event that was unrelated; but when this event happened, it would be a trigger for many major earth changes.... Again, this was to be in China; and it's a subject I know nothing about; so, please bear with me on this one. She said there was this "channel" there in China that they'd been working on for many years; and it was not yet complete. She said work had stopped on it for various reasons; then she told me that up above this "channel", there were 1000's of logs or timber that were perched at the top of this "channel"... Furthermore, over time, some had been stolen; but most were still there (she didn't say what they were to be used for, so it's a bit confusing for me). She said that soon these logs would come crashing down killing 1000's; and, when this happened, it would be a sign for her people that these Earth changes were about to happen with great intensity.

Does any of this make sense to you? Do you know of any such "channel" being built by the chinese? She said it had been started many years ago but never completed.


Yes, the Maori Elder was aiming the message at me. The Chinese connection is a signal to me as well. I saw the doco on TV; and I know what she is talking about... It is the Three Gorges Dam Project in China which is to dam the Yangtze River. It will consume over 130,000 acres and stretch some 400 miles along the Yangtze. The trees are being cut and have been stockpiled for later uses including dikes.... The Green group, the US Gov't ... the World Bank - ALL have tried to stop this project as an environmental nightmare.... It has displaced 2 million Chinese from their homes...

When I consider "prophecy", I do not consider it written in stone, but rather as signals sent from outside time and space.
I kept this one tucked in the side pocket of my mind, should it ever become relevant in the future, just in case.

[onawah]

3 Gorges Dam] Shocking Situation from Dam expert in china
634 views•Jun 30, 2020

(This video has a lot of information I've not seen before, including a detailed description of what will likely happen inf the dam collapses, including damage to many nuclear power plants, therefore release of radioactive water not only to China but to Korea and further as well. It would be on the scale of a global disaster.)

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[onawah]

Many dams discharged, Severe Flood Hit Southeast China | Three gorges dam | China flood | Hubei
60,820 views•Jul 9, 2020
China Observer - Vision Times
6.05K subscribers

"Wuhan city, known to the world as epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak, is now suffering from ravages of flooding. Since June 8, Wuhan has had seven rounds of heavy precipitation. From July 4 to 6, the city suffered from continuous heavy rainfall, and a part of the city recorded over 420 mm of precipitation, marking the highest record of precipitation in Wuhan in a single day.

The upstream of the Yangtze River, including the Three Gorges Dam area and the Dongting Lake system, are also affected by heavy rainfall. According to Mainland China Media, the first flood peak reached the Three Gorges Reservoir at 10:00 on July 2 and the flood’s inflow rate was as high as 50,000 cubic meters per second.

On July 2, 2020, the Yangtze River No. 1 flood reached the Three Gorges reservoir area and the Three Gorges Dam opened 3 holes for flood relief. At 2:00 p.m. that day, the water level in the Three Gorges reservoir was 146.97 meters, the incoming flow was 53,000 cubic meters per second and the outgoing flow was 35,500 cubic meters per second.

In the evening of July 4, the water level in the Three Gorges reservoir had risen to 149.6 metres, which was 4.6 metres above the alert level. The water level in the Wuhan section of the Yangtze River reached 27.30 metre, exceeding the alert level as well. Wuhan's Hankou Riverbank Park was completely submerged under water about 2 meters deep.

The hardest-hit area, Hubei province, has already suffered six rounds of heavy rainfall since the start of the rainy season in early June. According to Chinese media, the cumulative average rainfall in Hubei Province was 363.9 millimeters until recently, which is higher than the average rainfall of previous years by 45%. The water levels in the province's five major lakes and 1,081 reservoirs all exceeded the flood control level.

According to Hubei Daily’s Sina blog, July 9 around 9 am, in Hu Bei province, the Vertical dyke of Yang xin fu river burst, the break length has reached 40 meters, causing economic losses of about 120 million RMB.

Not only does the Yangtze River basin suffer from massive floods, East China's largest Xin'an River Reservoir on Qian tang River has now exceeded the flood control limit as well. On July 8, the provincial government said that 7 floodgates on the dam had been opened to prevent dam rupture, however, the remaining 2 gates may also required to be opened in order to ease the pressure on the dam. Previously, there had never been a need to open all of the gates, so people are now worried about if this will affect the structure of the dam and cause further problems.


The famous Huangshan area in Anhui province was partially closed on July 6 due to severe road damage by the flood. According to a shop owner in the area, the flood was caused by a dam collapse at midnight on July 5 . An express highway to Huangshan was cut off by mudflow and flash floods, leaving a gap of seven to eight meters wide. The Tunxi Zhenhai Bridge, an important cultural relic built more than 400 years ago, was also destroyed by flooding.

Dr.Wang Weiluo, a renowned Chinese hydraulic expert who now lives in Germany, participated in the Territorial area planning of the Three Gorges Dam from 1980 to 1985. In his opinion, when the water level at the dam was 145 meters, parts of the Chongqing city was already submerged at 164 meters, and the city issued a Red or Orange Flood Alert. Therefore when the water level in the dam reaches its maximum level of 175 meters, the water level in Chongqing may be as high as 210 meters.

Chinese officials are now facing a pressing dilemma. In order to protect the safety of the upstream cities, the Three Gorges dam would need to be discharged, but that would call for the sacrifice of the downstream cities. Flooding in more than a dozen provinces downstream of the Yangtze is already severe, and the discharge of the Three Gorges Dam will likely exacerbate the situation. However, if the dam is not discharged, the questionable construction and engineering qualities of the dam and the accumulated environmental problems in the Three Gorges area could lead to major problems with the dam itself, including risks of collapse. A week ago, mainland authorities were secretly discharging the Three Gorges dam, which caused Yichang city, located downstream of the dam, to be rapidly flooded and local citizens were caught unprepared. Now, the Chinese government has finally openly announced that it had started to release floodwaters for the first time this year and a new wave of flooding is heading toward the Three Gorges catchment area."
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[onawah]

Dam Makes Flood Waters 25X Stronger, Expert Says
China's tallest building flooded from 60th to 9th floor
649,100 views•Premiered Jul 10, 2020
China in Focus - NTD
496K subscribers

"Rain' and 'waterfalls spotted inside China’s tallest building. Videos surfaced online showing water pouring down from leaking ceilings, soaking floors and offices.

A new whistleblower steps forward at great personal risk. She says the Chinese regime knew about the virus long before telling the world.

It’s been over a week since China’s Three Gorges Dam started to release flood water. An expert says the water’s speed is 25 times more powerful, and potentially damaging, than a natural flood.

Chinese authorities took action to slow down the country's stock market. It comes after a weeklong boom that fueled worries of a new bubble.

And, Hong Kong’s pro-democracy camp will have its primary election this weekend. Though Beijing’s law has sent a chill through the city, one candidate says Hong Kongers are not giving up the fight. "
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[onawah]

6 quakes hit China in 2 days; Three Gorges Dam hit its limit: experts; China lake looks set to spill
640,221 views•Premiered Jul 13, 2020
China in Focus - NTD
501K subscribers

"China’s biggest freshwater lake looks set for unprecedented flooding. Areas around the lake are already among the worst hit in recent weeks, and residents are fearing the worst.

China raised its flood response alert to the second highest level over the weekend. This, as heavy rain soaked regions along the Yangtze river.

Flooding is getting worse in some areas near China's famous Three Gorges Dam - the largest hydropower project in the world. Experts have warned that the dam is on the brink of collapse.

But it’s not just floods battering the country. Now, earthquakes are shaking some regions, too. Six quakes struck within two days, one even reaching a magnitude 5.1.

A video circulating on Chinese social media is causing concern over the country's food security. It alleges a grainery of a major state-run grain stockpiler is full of moldy, poor-quality corn.

And an exclusive. A former Chinese web-censor exposes the inside story of the Chinese regime’s infiltration into the free world. He takes us behind the scenes of censorship at social media giant TikTok.


Watch more:
Manipulating America: The Chinese Communist Playbook https://bit.ly/2NfcjHN
The Pandemic’s Wall Street Connection: https://bit.ly/2SRDeNd
Tracking Down the Origin of the Wuhan Coronavirus: https://bit.ly/3dCWHsM
Virus follows communist China ties: https://bit.ly/2UsNVWc
Giving the right name to the virus causing a global pandemic: https://bit.ly/2wzV3IB
Undercover video reveals new evidence on forced organ harvesting in China: https://bit.ly/2wBE7RR
Full movie: ‘Claws of the Red Dragon’ exposes connection between Huawei and Chinese Communist Party: https://bit.ly/2wW1R3C "

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[onawah]

Whereabouts of Chinese Top Leaders Unknown; Residents Trapped By the Floodwaters for 72 hrs
64,755 views•Premiered 7/15/20
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
343K subscribers
The whereabouts of top CCP officials are still unknown — continuing a trend that started just ahead of news about the new virus outbreaks in Beijing and new lockdown measures.

"As this takes place, a large number of Chinese military vehicles were shown in videos on July 14 parked along the roadside in Wuhan, the epicenter of the new coronavirus, which has also now been hit by severe floods.

And the floods are also continuing, and the situation for the Chinese people is growing worse. In Jiangxi Province, the capital city, Nanchang City, was hit by massive floods. And in the surrounding counties, residents in towns and villages have been trapped by the floodwaters for close to 72 hours. Traffic and communications have been cut off.

These stories and more in this episode of Crossroads."
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[onawah]

THREE GORGES DAM COLLAPSE - FAILED DAMS UPSTREAM OF 3GD
10,393 views•Jul 15, 2020

(THIS INDEPENDENT RESEARCHER SEEMS TO BE FAIRLY KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND HE SAYS THE INFO ABOUT NUCLEAR PLANTS IN THE PATH OF THE 3GD IF IT COLLAPSES IS FAKE NEWS. WHICH IS CERTAINLY A RELIEF! THERE IS ONE IN SHANGHAI THOUGH, WHICH COULD BECOME THE NEXT FUKUSHIMA...SEE PART 6 BELOW. HE GOES ON TO EXPLAIN WHY THE CCP'S DECISION TO BUILD DAMS DESIGNED TO GENERATE POWER BUT NOT TO CONTAIN FLOODING WAS A VERY BAD IDEA. I EXPECT HE WILL BE A SOURCE TO KEEP AN EYE ON.)
Gorillas Forex Community
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This video is research I have found relating to the dams upstream of the three gorges, they are not built for flood prevention, only built to generate power, there are also no dams along the Yangtze River. Ticking time bomb.

Here you can find all the free videos relating to the three gorges dam collapse
Part 1 - https://youtu.be/5QdAqw0sYFY - This talks about the geopolitical and socioeconomic results of a dam break.
Part 2 - https://youtu.be/0ivcJSucYbk - Talks about the facts and history regarding the dam and China.
Part 3 - https://youtu.be/VkV00P-f5Wc - 1st BONUS video, Breakdown of Physics and devastation of 3GD collapse.
Part 4- https://youtu.be/t6L6c0NNzBo - 2nd BONUS video, breakdown of information into three gorges dam.
Part 5 - https://youtu.be/rSwQDemQBr4 - Talks about the earthquake affecting the Yangtze River.
Part 6 - https://youtu.be/gh5D0y_vy8s - Discusses the potential of a nuclear fallout if the dam collapse.
Part 7 - youtube.com/watch?v=X0YcyW43H0o - Talks about physics.
Part 8 - https://youtu.be/8-sUqS70OXg - Talks about meteorology and the construction of the Dam.
Part 9 - youtube.com/watch?v=8-sUqS70OXg - a timeline of events is discussed.
Part 10 - https://youtu.be/etFmxmwmxNk - talks about the dam collapsing as a second wave of Covid 19 hits China."
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[onawah]

3GD FAIL--WILL LEAD TO NUCLEAR FALLOUT???
807 views•Jul 3, 2020

Gorillas Forex Community
1.04K subscribers

( Here's the report mentioned above, Part 6)

"This video discusses the potential of a Fukushima part 2, and outlines the location of china’s nuclear power plants, and the 8 scenarios the three gorges dam could collapse."
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[AutumnW]

Infrastructure is crumbling globally. China seems to be particularly bad...but...I don't know how much info coming out about China is clean. Most of it is generated by media that is agenda driven. Doesn't mean some of it isn't true. I just can't tell. It's frustrating.

[onawah]

Agreed. I think this independent source I've just found is much more credible, though, and explains things very clearly.
Following are his two latest updates, and they explain a lot that I haven't seen elsewhere.

THREE GORGES DAM COLLAPSE - THE TRUTH
765 views•Jul 17, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
1.16K subscribers

"This video is dispelling a lot of false, inaccurate information floating around about the dam, I explain the cyclical water levels of the dam, the three factors leading to dam water levels rising, and the problem with all the silt and debris pushing against the dam structure."
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THREE GORGES DAM COLLAPSE - How long will it take to overflow?
2,012 views•Jul 17, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
1.17K subscribers

"This video talks about the inflow of water into the dam and how the situation is getting worse day by day. Find all related three gorges dam videos In the folder ‘TRADE IDEAS’."
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Infrastructure is crumbling globally. China seems to be particularly bad...but...I don't know how much info coming out about China is clean. Most of it is generated by media that is agenda driven. Doesn't mean some of it isn't true. I just can't tell. It's frustrating.

[onawah]

This researcher is a stock trader, and he is closely watching China and estimating what damage the current crisis is going to cost their economy, and how it will affect global finances.
He's also debunking some of the official stories coming from the Chinese press, which is controlled by the CCP.
And offering a lot of other information for free about stock trading, the math and physics involved, and more.

I was going to add here that his accent is a bit distracting (he's from the UK, but I'm not sure where.)
I'd never heard anyone dropping "t", and he drops the "t" in "water", which sounds very funny to the unaccustomed ear.
But apparently a lot of other listeners beat me to it, and he remarks on it in this video. :lol:

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[onawah]

Floods Near Historical Levels In China; Chinese Quit CCP; Urumqi City Locked Down For Virus Outbreak
539,033 views•Premiered Jul 17, 2020
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
353K subscribers

"A second wave of floods is expected from the Yangtze River in China. At Wuhu Station on the river, the waters had reached 41.2 feet, which surpasses the highest alarm level by 4.5 feet, and is just less than a foot away from being its highest water level recorded in history.

Meanwhile, with the virus, Urumqi City of Xinjiang has been shut down as cases of the new coronavirus have allegedly begun to surge. Local traffic has already been shut down, and 90 percent of flights have been canceled.

And in Detroit, ICE officials in Homeland Security Investigations seized a web domain operated by China, LafoAuto.com, in an international investigation into arms trafficking. A statement from ICE says “HSI determined that more than 350 suppressors seized by law enforcement across the county were purchased from the website and smuggled into the United States from China as automotive parts.”

These stories and more in this episode of Crossroads."

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[onawah]

Locust swarms in China’s southwestern province of Yunnan met with pesticide-carrying drones
5,605 views•Jul 19, 2020
South China Morning Post
1.29M subscribers

"Swarms of yellow-spined bamboo locusts have decimated large areas of farmland around the city of Pu’er in China’s southwestern province of Yunnan. Local authorities believe the crop-eating pests originated outside the province which borders Laos. Officials have deployed drones carrying pesticides in a bid to limit the spread of the insects which started to appear in late June 2020."
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[onawah]

No. 2 Flood Struck The Three Gorges Dam | Can the dam really hold?
407,137 views•Premiered Jul 19, 2020
China Observer - Vision Times
16.2K subscribers

"China Flooding 2020 Series: Part 6.
On July 18th, the Three Gorges Dam received the largest water inflow since the beginning of this year due to heavy rainfall in Chongqing, Sichuan, and other areas in the upper reaches of the Yangtze River. According to China’s "Regulations on the Numbering of Major Rivers", this meets the standard for the flood to be assigned a number. The Three Gorges Dam water level has increased by 8.04 meters over the past two days.

After the Chinese official media reported on July 17th that the "Yangtze River Flood No. 2 of 2020" had formed in the upper reaches of the Yangtze River, the Three Gorges Reservoir's water level rose rapidly, rapidly reaching 61,000 cubic meters per second at 8 a.m. on the 18th. At 6 pm on July 18th, the water level in the Three Gorges reservoir had reached 163.59 meters more than 18.59 meters above the flood limit.

The Three Gorges Dam started discharging water in order to protect the infrastructure, and on July 18th, it opened five more floodgates, making it the largest flood discharge this year. The discharge flow has reached 36,000 cubic meters per second.

According to experts from the Yangtze River Hydrology Bureau, they expect that Flood No.2 will reach Wuhan city in 4-5 days. The water level of the Yangtze River in the Wuhan has risen well above Wuhan city’s ground level, making it a veritable hanging river. While the average elevation of the city of Wuhan is 21 to 27 meters, the water level of the Yangtze River, on July 17th, in Wuhan has already reached 28.38 meters. Currently, Wuhan city is only protected by a large embankment along the river, and a video shows that water was seeping through, and if it collapses, Wuhan residents will be submerged in 3 to 4 stories of floodwater.

According to news circulating on social media, the flooding was caused by the embankment collapse of ching River in Enshu. The ching River is a tributary of the Yangtze River and the water feeds into it from downstream.

Since the Yangtze River increased its flood discharge, water from the Ching River could not flow out, which led to a rise in water levels throughout the basin. Coupled with heavy rainfall and flash floods in the mountains, the basin turned into a severely flooded zone and embankments collapsed.

Due to flood peak No.1, orange level flood warnings were issued for the middle and lower reaches of the Yangtze River such as Dongting Lake area, and Poyang Lake area. Wuhu city’s emergency flood control response was raised to the highest warning level on the same day as well. A video taken by Chinese netizens on July 17th shows that flooding has reached residents in Anching, Anhui province, and citizens have to use zodiac boats to go home.

According to the rainfall forecast released by the Yangtze River Water Information Network, heavy rainfall is still expected in the Yangtze River Basin from the 17th to the 20th.

The 100 or so reservoirs in the Three Gorges Project and the Yangtze River basin, and major hydrological stations in Poyang Lake and Dongting Lake all carry out joint commands.

The official Chinese Vice Minister of Water Resources, Ye Jianchun, had stressed at a State Council policy press conference on July 13th that the Three Gorges Dam is effective in controlling flooding.

However, Reuters reported that David Shankman, a professor of geology at the University of Alabama who studies flooding in China, said that while one of the main reasons for building the Three Gorges Dam was to prevent flooding, in fact, the dam cannot stop floods as severe as this year's.


Fan Xiao, a Chinese geologist, also noted that the Three Gorges Dam reservoir holds less than 9 percent of the flood's volume. "The Three Gorges reservoir can only partially and temporarily intercept flooding upstream, but it can do nothing to stop flooding caused by heavy rainfall in the middle and lower reaches of the Yangtze River. "

He argued that the Three Gorges Dam and other major dam projects could make flooding worse by altering sediment flows in the lower reaches of the Yangtze river. The inherent need for engineered power generation for the dam also affects flood control. "When people only consider using reservoirs to solve flood control problems, they tend to ignore, or even undermine, the natural ability of rivers and lakes to regulate flooding."

Taiwan’s Sanli Press website reported on July 18th that the flooding was getting more and more intense, and the flow rate at the Three Gorges Dam reached 61,000 cubic meters per second at 8:00 p.m. on that day. The dam is expected to receive a new round of incoming water on the 21st, can the dam really hold?"
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[norman]

Are China's empty cities inside that flood zone or well away from it ?

Every time I look at this thread I immediately think about those empty cities. I don't believe this amount of freak weather and flooding happened naturally. I still can't join the dots tho'.

[Bill Ryan]

The Three Gorges Dam predicament is gradually hitting the mainstream. Here's a Forbes article from yesterday: (20 July, 2020)


https://forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/07/20/china-floods-calls-into-question-sustainability-of-massive-three-gorges-dam/#622169444d50

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China Floods call into question sustainability of massive Three Gorges Dam

Seems to be part of the times, no? A once in a generation pandemic, a once in a generation flood. Parts of China are literally up to their eyeballs in water, in what the Chinese government is calling a once in 100 years flood. The Three Gorges Dam, built to stop these things, is now in the spotlight.

The Three Gorges Dam is the world’s largest hydroelectric power station, with an installed capacity of 22,500 megawatts of power generation. The thing is, that the power station is down the Yangtze River from a handful of other dams that exist at a higher elevation than the Three Gorges. And because of the floods and problems at those dams upstream, Three Gorges is buckling under the strain of massive flows of water.

Cities in the country's central region along the Yangtze River — China's longest river — have been flooded in the past week due to heavy rains this monsoon season. It was reported to be the worst flood since 1998, and not 100 years as some in Beijing have said.

All told, more than 400 Yangtze tributary rivers have overflowed, with nearly 200 people dead and properties underwater.

Average rainfall is around 12% higher than last monsoon season. The economic damage from flooding is expected to reach 86.2 billion yuan ($12 billion), according to some government estimates made on Friday.

On Sunday, the AP reported from Beijing that authorities blasted down an entire dam in order to release surging waters behind it and let it run.

State broadcaster CCTV reported the dam on the Chuhe River in Anhui province was blown to bits with explosives early Sunday morning, after which the water level was expected to drop by two feet.

Last week, the Three Gorges Dam opened three floodgates as the water level behind it rose more than 50 feet above the flood zone. Another flood crest is expected to arrive at the dam on Tuesday, the AP article states, adding that China’s military has been testing the strength of embankments and shoring them up with sandbags and rocks.

Over the weekend, firefighters finished filling in a 620-foot break on Poyang Lake, China’s largest freshwater lake, that caused flooding into 15 villages, sinking grain crops in Jiangxi province under water.

As of late Sunday, the Huaihe River was overflowing as heavy rain is forecast in the region for the next three days, according to China’s Ministry of Emergency Management.

From today to Wednesday, more strong rains will raise flood risks for rivers connecting to Three Gorges, though it seems that the heaviest rains will end by mid-week, saving the world’s largest dam from further stress.

Floods are expected to pose a threat to parts of Shanxi, Henan, Shandong, Anhui and Jiangsu provinces this week, while heavy mountain rains will likely hit parts of Sichuan and Guizhou provinces, according to the AP, though this shouldn’t have any impact on the strength of Three Gorges.

The last thing China needs is for that dam to fail. Papering that over would be a bitter pill to swallow for Beijing.

[pyrangello]

When the dams blew here in Michigan 2 months ago, they called that a 500 year flood, we received 7 inches of rain in 36 hours. Once the first one blew it was toast for the rest downstream, this happened about 35 miles from where I live. Now that 1/3 of a mile river is back to its original 100 ft wide river, all the trees from 100 years ago are still sticking up by the old riverbank . Its pretty surreal.

[Bill Ryan]

A fresh update from NTD, as of yesterday: (21 July, 2020)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_4xV3Cf1Z0

[onawah]

Also see: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104285-China&p=1368188&viewfull=1#post1368188

[onawah]

U.S. Order To Close Chinese Consulate And More Is Coming
640 views•Premiered 42 minutes ago 7/22/20
China Observer - Vision Times
19.4K subscribers

"A fire was spotted at the Chinese Consulate in Houston, Texas U.S. at midnight on July 21. The smoke and burning ashes alerted nearby residents and firefighters were called to the site.

The video, posted on Twitter, shows several people burning documents in metal buckets at an open-air courtyard in the center of the Chinese Consulate. Firefighters responded to nearby residents’ calls but were barred entry

On July 22, State Department spokesman Morgan Ortagus confirmed the U.S. order to close the Chinese Consulate in Houston on the 24th, in order to "protect U.S. intellectual property rights and the private information of U.S. citizens. And the Chinese officials were given 72 hours to leave America.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin refuted the allegations and called the U.S. "unilateral political provocation and deliberate disruption of China-U.S. relations".

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is visiting Europe, did not give details, but he again accused the Chinese of stealing the U.S. and European intellectual property. He said, “We are sending out clear expectations for how the Chinese Communist Party is going to behave and when they don’t, we’re going to take actions that protect the American people, protect our national security and also our economy and jobs."

In fact, the prosecution of Chinese espionage in the U.S. continues to increase. On the 21st the U.S. Justice Department indicted two Chinese men for stealing confidential data from companies in Maryland, Massachusetts, and California that are developing new coronavirus vaccines, pharmaceuticals and testing technology, as well as collecting information on overseas human right activists and the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama. The indictment states that they were hired by China's Ministry of State Security, and have been attacking computer equipment in countries around the world for more than a decade, stealing trade secrets, weapons designs, military systems, and other information, resulting in the "theft of trade secrets, weapons designs, military systems, and other information, causing "hundreds of millions of dollars" in losses, the indictment stated.

US National National Counterintelligence and Security Center Director said earlier this year that China's stealing of trade secrets had cost America about $300 billion to $600 billion a year.

China also conducted a mass amount of national-level hacking attacks. In 2019, several U.S. aerospace companies were attacked by a Chinese-developed malware called Sakula and stole confidential technology to build aircraft. The C919 jet, which China is building to compete with Boeing and Airbus and claimed “self-developed”, was found to have components identical to those made by CFM International, Honeywell, Parker Aerospace, GE and other U.S. companies.

In a speech at the Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C. on July 7, FBI Director Christopher Wray detailed the Chinese Communist Party's numerous sabotage campaigns against the United States. He said that of the nearly 5,000 counterintelligence cases currently underway in the United States, nearly half are related to China, and the FBI opens a new China counterintelligence case every 10 hours. Wray also highlighted China's Fox Hunt Campaign, which threatens Chinese nationals living abroad with sensitive information, demanding them to return to China or even kill themselves.

The Chinese Communist Party's claws also extend to Europe, Australia, Japan, Taiwan, and many other countries. The latest report from Germany's Federal Office for Constitutional Protection mentioned that Germany has been the target of Chinese spy operations, not just only using every means possible to influence government decisions in areas such as trade, 5G, and other technology-related fields, but also using LinkedIn to search and hire potential candidates to become spies. China even collects data for its social credit system in Germany, including Chinese nationals living in Germany, as well as German citizens who use online services, apps, or payment services from China, such as Alibaba, Tencent, WeChat, and shared-bikes systems."

© All Rights Reserved.
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[Richter]

And meanwhile 27 provinces have been completely or partially flooded.
The alarming, deafening silence in the western media about what happens in China is also an interesting puzzle.

Yangtze River flooding, China (4:11)
July 21 2020
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Authorities Flood 200,000 Homes by Opening A Dam; US Orders China Close Houston Consulate in 72 Hrs (25:00)
'CROSSROADS' 23-7-2020
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[onawah]

THREE GORGES DAM COLLAPSE BY EARTHQUAKE - Parts 1 & 2
783 views•Jul 23, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
2.09K subscribers

Part 1
"This video talks about geology and lays the foundation for part two where we will discuss the potential for an earthquake around the three gorges dam."
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Part 2
"This video talks about findings of scientists in China and discusses the very real possibility of more earthquakes, as the last one happened in July 2nd 2020 not far from 3GD."
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[onawah]

The deception of the 3 gorges Dam finally released
59,015 views•Jul 21, 2020
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[onawah]

China releases floodwater; 2 Chinese hackers indicted; New bill targets supply chain slave labor
72,130 views•Jul 23, 2020
NTD
425K subscribers

"1. Houston Chinese Consulate Ordered To Close
The United States asked Chinese consulate staff in Houston to get out of the country by 4PM this Friday.

2. Two Chinese Indicted in Hacking Campaign
The Justice Department says the two hackers, part of China's Ministry of State Security, stole hundreds of millions of dollars in trade secrets, intellectual property, and other valuable information.

3. New Bill Targets Supply Chain Slave Labor
US Senator Josh Hawley is introducing a bill to make sure large American companies aren't using slave labor in supply chains.

4. China Blast Releases Floodwater
China’s Southeastern Anhui province is now in an urgent situation. In one of the towns in the region, over 10-thousand people are trapped due to flooding, waiting to be rescued.

5. Hongkongers' Anonymous Protest Opposes Law
A colorful and anonymous form of protest can be seen popping up in shops and restaurants in Hong Kong. It follows the controversial security law imposed by the Chinese communist party that makes several forms of free speech a crime."

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[onawah]

Simulation Video After The Failure Of The Three Gorges Dam On The Yangtze River
30,897 views•Jul 25, 2020

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[onawah]

Can China's Three Gorges Dam collapse?Bills ban funds for CCP-tied goods;NYC autonomous zone cleared
86,633 views•Jul 24, 2020
NTD
425K subscribers
(00:00) NYC City Hall Park Taken Back by NYPD
The NYPD cleared out people who were camping outside of City Hall. The police commissioner said there were about 40 or 50 people onsite when they moved in to clear it out. Arrests were made, but there were no injuries and no violence.

(02:01) NY: Upstate Housing Booms After Pandemic
Following a months-long lockdown, some New Yorkers have decided they don't want to go through it again in a city that's known for its crowds. The need for more space has sent real estate sales booming outside the five boroughs.

(03:42) US Hearing: Tech Surveillance in China
The United States Commission on International Religious Freedom held a hearing about the Chinese regime’s use of technology to oppress religious groups. They say China has created a surveillance state on a scale never seen before.

(05:49) Ban Funds for CCP-Tied Goods: Senator
Republican Arizona Senator Martha McSally introduced two bills— bills that would ban federal funds from being used to buy Chinese Communist Party-tied products, like subway trains.

(07:43) Concerns Rise Over the ‘Three Gorges Dam’
Concerns are rising over whether the three gorges dam could collapse amid China's massive flooding. But Chinese experts are quick to refute. In a state media interview, one expert said even an atomic bomb couldn't entirely destroy the dam.
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[onawah]

China orders closure of US consulate in Chengdu
2,916 views•Jul 25, 2020
Al Jazeera English
5.54M subscribers

"The diplomatic crisis between China and the United States is deepening.
Staff at the US consulate in Chengdu, China, are leaving after Beijing ordered its closure.
It is in response to the US ordering the closure of China's consulate in Houston, Texas."
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[happyuk]

For a deeper dive into China's propaganda mechanism, please do check out "serpentza"'s videos on the big lies that China continues to peddle. He has lived in China for some time and speaks the language fluently.

(I can't remember his actual name)

They really are excellent and informative, though often harrowing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rohq4hClRkk




From Bill: he's Winston Sterzel, and his Wiki page is here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Sterzel).

[onawah]

Checking Serpentza out now. These are interesting too (Serpenza is in these as well) though they're 4 years old:

Why is Everything in CHINA FALLING APART?
2,139,077 views•Nov 19, 2016
ADVChina

"Before you come to China, you might have an idea that it will be ancient tea houses, tight alley ways full of culture and history, or people living the same way they did hundereds of years ago.
You'd be wrong.
China is changing, and sometimes too fast. So Winston and I delve into something that we find a little disappointing sometimes, and that is the lack of maintanence in China.
If you go to most old areas, you can almost see the history pouring out from the ancient buildings and temples, but they are almost never maintained. This problem is to the point where we are having a difficult time finding anything that is more than 50 years old, simply because it is all collapsed.

This isn't limited to old things either. Chinese people have had an issue with maintenance with most things for a long time.

Hop on and find out more!

Living in China for so long, we would like to share some of the comparisons that we have found between China and the west, and shed some light on the situation."

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(Too bad the people who are newly homeless from flooding in China will not be relocated to all those empty buildings, but no doubt that will never happen as there would probably be no profit in it. Unless the whole economy undergoes a renovation from top to bottom, and people are no longer considered to be disposable. )

GHOST CITY - Inside the Chinese Housing Bubble
1,103,988 views•Oct 16, 2016
ADVChina


"Speculative buyers have eschewed Chinese stocks in favor of property, prompting even the chief economist at the central bank of the world's second largest economy to declare that housing was in a "bubble."
But when strategists at UBS AG recently compiled a list of bubblicious housing markets, there weren't any selections from mainland China due to the lack of reliable data on the subject, underscoring the continued difficulty in declaring Chinese real estate to be in overheated territory.
But Deutsche Bank AG Chief China Economist Zhiwei Zhang thinks he's pinpointed "a clear sign of a bubble" in the market — one that will end in a major correction in two years' time.
After analyzing how much developers were willing to spend to win land auctions in 10 major Chinese cities in which values are already up 23 percent year-over-year, the economist found that the business case for these bids evaporates unless property prices continue to increase.

Hop on and find out!

Living in China for so long, we would like to share some of the comparisons that we have found between China and the west, and shed some light on the situation."
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For a deeper dive into China's propaganda mechanism, please do check out "serpentza"'s videos on the big lies that China continues to peddle. He has lived in China for some time and speaks the language fluently.

(I can't remember his actual name)

They really are excellent and informative, though often harrowing.
From Bill:
He's Winston Sterzel, and his Wiki page is here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Sterzel).

[onawah]

THREE GORGES DAM POTENTIAL COLLAPSE UPDATE - Rain and Debris
7,111 views•Jul 25, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
2.6K subscribers

"This video discusses the expected rain over the next 24 hours and the amount of debris building up behind the dam wall."
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[onawah]

40 Inches Rain Due/2 Days/3 Gorges Dam
"Catastrophic storm forecast for Chengdu China 1020mm or 40 inches in 2 days Wednesday through Friday"
28,672 views•Jul 26, 2020
cf jingara
4.43K subscribers
"This looks like one monster of a system. I will monitor and report on it as it happens."
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[Maia Gabrial]

They want to terminate 20 million of their own population. So, this dam situation might be part of that....

[Bill Ryan]

They want to terminate 20 million of their own population. So, this dam situation might be part of that....But they'd not want to wipe out Wuhan, one of China's key manufacturing hubs.

[AuCo]

They want to terminate 20 million of their own population. So, this dam situation might be part of that....But they'd not want to wipe out Wuhan, one of China's key manufacturing hubs.

I believe you are right. That is why they are purposely breaking some dams to allow water from the Yangtze/others to flood populated river basins (that was there originally to control flood naturally) the save Wuhan and Shanghai.

The 3G dam has been slowing down the flow of the Yangtze which causes silt build-up on the river bottom downstream. The river embankments need to grow higher and higher to accommodate the riverbed rises. They either ignore to remove build up silt or possibly it is too costly to do.

Over the years, the river will rise higher and higher than the river basins. The flooded will be more and more devastated. The 3G dam is becoming a nightmare for them.

[onawah]

Flood No. 3 forms on the Yangtze River; Three Gorges Dam Failure Simulation | China flood
174,653 views•Premiered 9 hours ago
China Observer - Vision Times
26.4K subscribers

"Flood No. 3 forms on the Yangtze River; Three Gorges Dam Failure Simulation; Three Gorges Dam water inflow surges; What has Xi done?
Due to heavy rainfall, the water flow in the upper reaches of the Yangtze river such as Min-jiang River, Jia-ling River, and the Three Gorges area increased significantly, and the inflow rate in Three Gorges Reservoir rose rapidly to 50,000 cubic meters per second on July 26th.

As a result, The Bureau of Hydrology of the Chang-jiang Water Resources Commission officially announced that the "Yangtze River Flood No. 3 of 2020" was formed in the upper reaches of the Yangtze River and the maximum flow into the Three Gorges Reservoir was expected to be around 60,000 cubic meters per second on the evening of July 27.

In anticipation of the new flood peak, the Three Gorges Dam increased its water discharge beforehand, and on July 24, the water outflow from the Three Gorges Dam soared to 45,600 cubic meters per second, setting a new record for this year. Netizens have estimated that the Three Gorges Dam may have opened nine floodgates to release floodwaters. –


On the morning of July 26, about 100 kilometers upstream of the Three Gorges Dam, Jiancheng County in Hubei Province was hit by heavy rainfall that caused the local Guang-run River to overflow, flooding the county's main road and sweeping away many cars parked on the riverbank. It was the biggest flood in the history of Jiangshi County according to netizens.

People complained on social media that the most vicious thing was that the government secretly released the flood without informing the citizens to evacuate early because it would save the cost of compensating them for their property. By making man-made disasters seem like natural disasters, people would then thank the Communist Party for the help and aids.

The government can only provide relief supplies such as woven bags to defend the floods, but not a penny of relief funds and necessities for the people.

According to official data from China's Ministry of Emergency Management, from June 1 to July 22, the floods caused over 4.5 million people in Jiangxi, Anhui, Hubei, Hunan, Guangxi, Guizhou, Guangdong, Chongqing, Sichuan and another 27 provinces (regions and municipalities) to be affected, 142 people were killed or missing, 35,000 houses collapsed, and incurred a direct economic losses of 116.05 billion yuan (16.5 billion USD).

At a time when tens of millions of people are suffering from flooding, facing life threatening events and serious property losses, not a single high-ranking Chinese official has gone to the disaster area to inspect and guide the relief efforts.

In the eyes of the CCP officials, the people in the affected areas can just be sacrificed at any time, and what they really care about is the stability of the regime.

In the coming week from July 26-28, the middle and lower reaches of the Yangtze River basin will have heavy torrential rainfall; From July 29 to August 1, there is moderate to heavy rainfall in the western upper reaches of the Yangtze River.

It is still unknown whether the Three Gorges Dam will be able to withstand another round of flooding. Nevertheless, we hope that the Dam will hold for the safety of the people downstream. Just before the No. 3 flood, on July 24, the Three Gorges Dam designer and the academic of the Chinese Academy of Engineering Zheng Shouren, known as the "Father of the Three Gorges Dam" in China, passed away due to illness, while the Three Gorges Dam that he left behind remains a controversial subject.

On July 23rd, a video of "Three Gorges Dam Failure Simulation" was widely circulated on the Internet. The video caused quite a stir in the internet, Anhui province's first-line flood control personnel told foreign media after watching the video that it was most likely a simulation made by semi-official agencies, the general public can not make such professional projections."
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[onawah]

How do Chinese people handle Confrontation?
Dec 3, 2020
ADVChina
369K subscribers

"China runs on something called face. This is a massive contributor to how arguments take place, and how most of life actually works in China. Confrontation does exist in China, but the lack of direct confrontation can lead to some serious societal issues.

"Living in China for so long, we would like to share some of the comparisons that we have found between China and the west, and shed some light on the situation.

Every week, we take you to a new place in China on our bikes, cover a topic, and reply to your questions."
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To be fair:
Feb 14, 2018
serpentza
747K subscribers

"These are the top 5 gripes Chinese people have with Foreign people!"
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[onawah]

Are NEW Chinese buildings really FALLING DOWN?
7/2/2018
ADVChina
369K subscribers

"Ghost Cities in China. Real estate bubbles. We've toured Chinese ghost towns in the past, but this time we visit a high end neighborhood of villas that were only built 3 years ago, and were shocked to see the state that they were in. We were surrounded by new buildings, that were completely empty. This is the state of real estate in China."

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[happyuk]

Here's another interesting guy in China.

His name is Xu Xiaodong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Xiaodong) and he is a a professional MMA fighter who has been on a mission to expose what he considers to be fake martial artists, who he thinks are being wrongly promoted by the Chinese state.

He seems to have touched a nerve in China and has had his social credit rating lowered to the point where he could not rent, own property, stay in certain hotels, travel on high speed rail or buy plane tickets.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ6j0i0LxNo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UvRavszvPY

[Satori]

Here's another interesting guy in China.

His name is Xu Xiaodong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Xiaodong) and he is a a professional MMA fighter who has been on a mission to expose what he considers to be fake martial artists, who he thinks are being wrongly promoted by the Chinese state.

He seems to have touched a nerve in China and has had his social credit rating lowered to the point where he could not rent, own property, stay in certain hotels, travel on high speed rail or buy plane tickets.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ6j0i0LxNo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UvRavszvPY

He better be careful. Or he’ll be “Bruce Lee’d”.

[onawah]

THREE GORGES DAM COLLAPSE RAMIFICATIONS - Famine, Disease, War, Economic Depression
54 views•Jul 27, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
3.05K subscribers

(SHOWS CLEARLY HOW DEPENDENT CHINA IS ON THE YANGTZE RIVER AND THE 3 GORGES DAM FOR SHIPPING, DRINKING WATER, AGRICULTURE, MANUFACTURING, AND MORE)

"This video shows china’s military positions lie in the wake of the three gorges, I also discuss the possibility that the world will feel the snap of a three gorges break."EhhNWuZnfXg

[onawah]

More Chinese Cities On Lockdown; Third Flood Wave Forms In China; Slave Labor Exposed
47,960 views•Premiered 2 hours ago
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
370K subscribers

"An official announcement is saying the third wave flood has formed upstream on the Yangtze River, which is currently experiencing its second wave flood. Waters from the second wave have just passed the Three Gorges Dam and are still moving downstream. The Three Gorges Dam reservoir recorded an inflow of 164,000 cubic feet per second and is expected to peak at 196,000 cubic feet per second by Tuesday, according to reports from China’s Ministry of Water Resources.

Meanwhile, companies are being warned about having slave labor in their supply chains, and close 80 major brands including Nike, Adidas, Lenovo, Samsung, and others are being called out for using slave labor from Xinjiang, China, in their supply chains.

And the city of Yining was reportedly shut down in the middle of the night. This is the second city in Xinjiang province that has been shut down, with the other city being Urumqi.

These stories and more in this episode of Crossroads."
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[Richter]

THE STRANGE SEEDS OF COVERT OPS?
July 27, 2020
By Joseph P. Farrell

There's a very weird story circulating right now, and it kicks off this weeks blogs of what is shaping up to be even more strangeness in our weird world. In fact, quite a few people spotted this story and sent it along, so it naturally starts this week's blogs, along with my thank you to all of you who spotted and shared it. I'm focusing on articles shared by K.M. and C.S., so an especial thanks to you two.

Well, with that in mind, there's yet another data point to be added to this mix. As the following articles show, apparently ordinary people both inside the US and the UK have been receiving packages at their homes in the mail. From China. Full of seeds:

- Mysterious seed packets from China sent to dozens of people in 3 states, officials say

- Virginia residents should report any unsolicited packages from China that contain seeds. Here's why.

- Hundreds of British gardeners 'receive unsolicited deliveries of garden seeds sent from China marked as ear studs'

- Mysterious seeds sent from China to Utah

There's a common pattern to all this, whether we're dealing with Chinese seeds in Utah, Virginia, or the U.K: (1) The seeds arrive in packages in the mail, labeled as something else; (2) no one actually receiving the seeds ordered them; they simply arrive; and most notably, (3) authorities are warning people not to plant the seeds, nor even throw them away, but to report them to government agencies. The reason given for this measure is that the seeds are suspected to be those of "invasive" plants perhaps designed to cause problems for American and British agriculture and food production. It's not a far-fetched idea. After all these are Communists we're dealing with, and if they're willing to smuggle automatic weapons parts (and possibly much more serious things), counterfeit money (don't forget those counterfeit $1 bills), and lie about the corona virus outbreak, say that the 3 Gorges Dam satellite pictures showing distortion was merely a "processing artifact" and then just recently admit it's leaking, and distorting "within normal parameters", then they'll certainly be capable of mailing out destructive seeds in the hopes that someone will plant them.

CONTINUE: https://gizadeathstar.com/2020/07/the-strange-seeds-of-covert-ops/

[norman]

- Mysterious seed packets from China sent to dozens of people in 3 states, officials say

- Virginia residents should report any unsolicited packages from China that contain seeds. Here's why.

- Hundreds of British gardeners 'receive unsolicited deliveries of garden seeds sent from China marked as ear studs'

- Mysterious seeds sent from China to Utah

There's a common pattern to all this, whether we're dealing with Chinese seeds in Utah, Virginia, or the U.K: (1) The seeds arrive in packages in the mail, labeled as something else; (2) no one actually receiving the seeds ordered them; they simply arrive; and most notably, (3) authorities are warning people not to plant the seeds, nor even throw them away, but to report them to government agencies. The reason given for this measure is that the seeds are suspected to be those of "invasive" plants perhaps designed to cause problems for American and British agriculture and food production. It's not a far-fetched idea. After all these are Communists we're dealing with, and if they're willing to smuggle automatic weapons parts (and possibly much more serious things), counterfeit money (don't forget those counterfeit $1 bills), and lie about the corona virus outbreak, say that the 3 Gorges Dam satellite pictures showing distortion was merely a "processing artifact" and then just recently admit it's leaking, and distorting "within normal parameters", then they'll certainly be capable of mailing out destructive seeds in the hopes that someone will plant them.

CONTINUE: https://gizadeathstar.com/2020/07/the-strange-seeds-of-covert-ops/


A quick exchange about this away from here:


Why is this not in the news?

bloody good question, you'd think it should be, wouldn't you.

I suppose they are scared of starting war panic, and are trying to get a grip on it quietly.

[Bill Ryan]

- Mysterious seed packets from China sent to dozens of people in 3 states, officials say

Why is this not in the news?

Actually, it is: (in other articles, too)


https://nytimes.com/2020/07/26/us/seeds-from-china-mail.html

[AuCo]

- Mysterious seed packets from China sent to dozens of people in 3 states, officials say

- Virginia residents should report any unsolicited packages from China that contain seeds. Here's why.

- Hundreds of British gardeners 'receive unsolicited deliveries of garden seeds sent from China marked as ear studs'

- Mysterious seeds sent from China to Utah

There's a common pattern to all this, whether we're dealing with Chinese seeds in Utah, Virginia, or the U.K: (1) The seeds arrive in packages in the mail, labeled as something else; (2) no one actually receiving the seeds ordered them; they simply arrive; and most notably, (3) authorities are warning people not to plant the seeds, nor even throw them away, but to report them to government agencies. The reason given for this measure is that the seeds are suspected to be those of "invasive" plants perhaps designed to cause problems for American and British agriculture and food production. It's not a far-fetched idea. After all these are Communists we're dealing with, and if they're willing to smuggle automatic weapons parts (and possibly much more serious things), counterfeit money (don't forget those counterfeit $1 bills), and lie about the corona virus outbreak, say that the 3 Gorges Dam satellite pictures showing distortion was merely a "processing artifact" and then just recently admit it's leaking, and distorting "within normal parameters", then they'll certainly be capable of mailing out destructive seeds in the hopes that someone will plant them.

CONTINUE: https://gizadeathstar.com/2020/07/the-strange-seeds-of-covert-ops/


A quick exchange about this away from here:


Why is this not in the news?

bloody good question, you'd think it should be, wouldn't you.

I suppose they are scared of starting war panic, and are trying to get a grip on it quietly.

In post 4001 of the Horus-Ra thread, there is a interview video of Celeste Solum, a FEMA employee. She mentions, at 8:50 mark about a plant destroyer virus that was developed by the Chinese and released at the same time with the Wuhan virus. Kinda a interesting to make note of.

The direct link to her video here: https://www.brighteon.com/8ca8da3b-56da-47b8-b31b-e2afd18b9c10

[Harmony]

- Mysterious seed packets from China sent to dozens of people in 3 states, officials say

- Virginia residents should report any unsolicited packages from China that contain seeds. Here's why.

- Hundreds of British gardeners 'receive unsolicited deliveries of garden seeds sent from China marked as ear studs'

- Mysterious seeds sent from China to Utah

There's a common pattern to all this, whether we're dealing with Chinese seeds in Utah, Virginia, or the U.K: (1) The seeds arrive in packages in the mail, labeled as something else; (2) no one actually receiving the seeds ordered them; they simply arrive; and most notably, (3) authorities are warning people not to plant the seeds, nor even throw them away, but to report them to government agencies. The reason given for this measure is that the seeds are suspected to be those of "invasive" plants perhaps designed to cause problems for American and British agriculture and food production. It's not a far-fetched idea. After all these are Communists we're dealing with, and if they're willing to smuggle automatic weapons parts (and possibly much more serious things), counterfeit money (don't forget those counterfeit $1 bills), and lie about the corona virus outbreak, say that the 3 Gorges Dam satellite pictures showing distortion was merely a "processing artifact" and then just recently admit it's leaking, and distorting "within normal parameters", then they'll certainly be capable of mailing out destructive seeds in the hopes that someone will plant them.

CONTINUE: https://gizadeathstar.com/2020/07/the-strange-seeds-of-covert-ops/


A quick exchange about this away from here:


Why is this not in the news?

bloody good question, you'd think it should be, wouldn't you.

I suppose they are scared of starting war panic, and are trying to get a grip on it quietly.

In post 4001 of the Horus-Ra thread, there is a interview video of Celeste Solum, a FEMA employee. She mentions, at 8:50 mark about a plant destroyer virus that was developed by the Chinese and released at the same time with the Wuhan virus. Kinda a interesting to make note of.

The direct link to her video here: https://www.brighteon.com/8ca8da3b-56da-47b8-b31b-e2afd18b9c10

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Last_Ship_episodes

Thats very interesting AuCo.

There was a TV series called "The Last Ship". It started out with a pandemic called "The Red Flu". If you go to the link above and check out Series 4, you will see it is about a "Red Dust" that kills all the plants on earth for the food supply. Perhaps some predictive programming?

[onawah]

Just in case you still haven't comprehended the magnitude of what's happening in China, here's one from 7/22 which I missed, but is worthy of consideration:
Largest Floods in Chinese History Wiped Out the Country’s Food & Grain Supply (1016)
108,126 views•Jul 22, 2020
Adapt 2030
113K subscribers

"The largest floods in the last 400 years are beginning to overwhelm China's central cities and surrounding grain growing and agriculture zones. At present 100+ million people will need to evacuate. With the unfathomable losses of food production, China will need to go on a buying spree unlike the world has ever seen for food imports. This will start with rice from Asia and move to every continent. The images in the video will give you an idea of the situation, and the precarious events our world will witness. Gold, silver, cryptocurrency, how will China pay for it all?"
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[norman]

- Mysterious seed packets from China





Maybe, the plot thickens.


Here's a reply from my own brother, to my sending on that report to him yesterday.



This is weirdly interesting, ****** got an unsolicited package, apparently from China, containing 4 face masks. The postage label described the contents as ”underpants”.
Coincidentally she had previously bought some face masks via Amazon from a Chinese supplier.

I advised them to not use the masks, and get them logged somewhere 'reliably on our side' so that someone higher up can estimate better what's going on. I don't yet know how long ago they arrived.

[norman]

40 Inches Rain Due/2 Days/3 Gorges Dam
"Catastrophic storm forecast for Chengdu China 1020mm or 40 inches in 2 days Wednesday through Friday"
28,672 views•Jul 26, 2020
cf jingara
4.43K subscribers
"This looks like one monster of a system. I will monitor and report on it as it happens."
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The meter of rain in 2 days event has not happened. The model was inaccurate.
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[onawah]

Yangtze River remains above flood warning level; Passport control to lock whistleblowers in China?
18,732 views 7/31/20
China in Focus - NTD
536K subscribers

"Bamboo locusts hit China. This year the flying insect swarms are "starting early" and are "frequent, and numerous." Chinese authorities say it may become a new normal.

A recent order has invalidated all privately-held passports of regime-related staff in Wuhan. The ban may intend to block potential future whistleblowers from leaving China.

Floods arrived in Beijing. Four inches of rainfall in just one hour. Lightning, torrential rain, and high wind warnings were issued in Beijing.

The latest virus whistleblower recounted how Beijing and the WHO covered up the key piece of virus information in the early stages—the virus’s ability to transmit among humans.

In China’s western Xinjiang, virus cases continue to climb. A biker in the region posted a video asking for help, as he’s trapped due to the lockdown. "
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THREE GORGES DAM POTENTIAL COLLAPSE UPDATE - No.3 Flood hits China
Gorillas Forex Community
3.12K subscribers
7/31/20

"Update on the three gorges dam, explains what a no.3 flood is and why China are having such major trouble with rain this year."
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[onawah]

CHINA FLOODS 2020 - Three Gorges Dam Potential Collapse Update
302 views•Aug 6, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community

Nothing short of terrifying! China is toast, even if the 3 GD doesn't collapse...
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THREE GORGES DAM UPDATE Wednesday 5th August
9,501 views•Aug 5, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
4.89K subscribers

"Video discussing the potential famine China faces."
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[onawah]

China: Crackdown on Buddhism | DW News
399,723 views•Aug 4, 2020
DW News
1.62M subscribers

"In China, the government is not only cracking down on Muslims, but on other religions as well as it pushes to assert communist ideology. Buddhist temples have been closed or demolished, while a campaign has been launched to destroy hundreds of statues of Buddha. The destruction of the giant Guan-yin Buddha has drawn international condemnation."8CC35yjOI-0

[onawah]

Three Gorges Dam Potential Collapse Update - Conspiracy Or Event Unfolding???
3,671 views•Aug 8, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
5.1K subscribers

"Talks about a potential event unfolding due that’s signalled in the traffic along the Yangtze River."
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[onawah]

Flood-related deaths not counted by authorities; Model disappears after exposing China truth
203,059 views•Premiered Aug 7, 2020
China in Focus - NTD
543K subscribers

"Houses pulled down in mudslides; damaged roads and bridges, and floating cars. The scenes from Yangtze River area repeat now at the Yellow River as the third wave of flooding arrives.

Flood level rising, despite no heavy rain, indicating that something else was behind it. And in a county with zero flood-related deaths, falling into floodwater and drowning was instead counted as an 'accident'.

Conflicts between Chinese citizens and authorities are rising. Offices of a private firm were demolished by a state farm illegally. The police’s behavior led to protests.

A young Uyghur man published a video of himself in detention in Xinjiang region, and now he is missing.

And the US is purging ‘untrusted’ Chinese apps. The next is WeChat and its parent firm Tencent. This ban may be bigger than TikTok’s. "
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[onawah]

Typhoon Mekkhala hit Fujian, China
Storm No. 5 with terrible wind brings heavy rain
5,513 views•Aug 11, 2020
World News

"After turning away from Taiwan, tropical storm Mekkhala made landfall in Fujian province this morning (August 11), bringing heavy rains, causing serious flooding.
Earlier, the Xinhua News Agency reported, that the Chinese authorities issued a yellow warning when the storm hit the coastal areas east and south of the country"
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Three Gorges Dam Update August 11 2020
12,276 views•Aug 11, 2020
Dreadopedia
10.9K subscribers

"An update on the status of the Three Gorges Dam and China's historic flooding."

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[onawah]

THREE GORGES DAM POTENTIAL COLLAPSE - No.4 Flood & Famine
317 views•Aug 11, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
5.18K subscribers

"This video discusses the looming famine, and the no.4 flood set to hit the three gorges dam in a few days time."
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[Tintin]

This article serves as a related one and could best be described as "Potential turmoil on the India and China Border."

This appears to be either a game of brinkmanship or a scenario with enormous potential for turmoil. A development here that may be worth keeping a close eye on.

Source: Sputnik (https://sputniknews.com/military/202008121080141690-india-deploys-domestically-produced-armed-helicopters-to-contested-ladakh-on-chinese-border/)

India Deploys Domestically-Produced Armed Helicopters to Contested Ladakh on Chinese Border

August 12th, 2020

by Rishikesh Kumar

New Delhi (Sputnik): India has deployed fighter jets, transport aircraft, and thousands of additional troops to the Ladakh region to counter movement by the People's Liberation Army. The two Asian giants have failed to reach a consensus on disengagement in Pangong Tso and Depsang Valley after six rounds of military-level talks.

Boosting its air combat capability in the Ladakh region, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has deployed locally-developed armed helicopters carrying 70mm guns, unguided rockets, cluster bombs, and other weaponry.



"In light of the prevailing situation on the border, two Light Combat Helicopters (LCH) have been deployed for operations at high altitude (Leh sector) at short notice to support IAF missions", the developer Hindustan Aeronautics Limited said on Wednesday.

The 5.5-tonne class LCH is capable of carrying four French-made Mistral air-to-air missiles on each wing (https://sputniknews.com/military/201802011061257197-india-reduces-cost-attack-helicopter/) that can intercept a target at a range of up to 6.5 kilometres.

HAL mentioned that the helicopter is operating in a high altitude location in a forward area, demonstrating its quick deployment prowess in extreme temperatures.

Terming it "the lightest attack helicopter in the world", HAL chief R Madhavan underscored that it meets the specific and unique requirements of the Indian Armed Forces. The twin-engine LCH is not only lighter than the American AH-64E Apache attack helicopter but also comes at half the price, i.e. less than $35 million per unit.

The Indian Air Force has already deployed its Chinook and Apache attack helicopters (https://sputniknews.com/military/202008111080135549-india-approves-proposals-worth-11-billion-to-strengthen-armed-forces-amid-border-tensions/) to the region.

Status of India-China Border Conflict
The sixth round of commander-level talks between India and China on 9 August failed to make progress over sticking points such as the withdrawal of Chinese troops from the Depsang Valley and Pangong Tso region along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), government sources in New Delhi told Sputnik.

The sources added that in the coming days joint secretary-level talks could be held to diffuse the situation, which has been tense since April 2020 when the two sides accused each other of transgressing the perceived border in the Ladakh region.

In a violent clash on 15 June, 20 Indian soldiers were killed in the Galwan Valley.
Despite foreign minister-level talks and six rounds of military-level consultations, the two countries continue to build up their military strength in case of a possible limited war-like situation in the Ladakh region.

[onawah]

CHINA FLOODS 2020 - Three Gorges Dam Update & China Preparing For War?
980 views•Aug 12, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
5.31K subscribers

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[onawah]

Xi Jinping Sends Veiled Message About "Emperor" of China Plans; TikTok Using Banned Method to Spy
190,945 views 8/13/20
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
393K subscribers

"Xi Jinping, the leader of the Chinese Communist Party, allegedly sent a veiled message in a recent manifesto suggesting he intends to be leader for life. This was included in a statement on the fifth plenary session of the 19th Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, which will be held in Beijing in October. The announcement was carried by the CCP mouthpiece news outlet, Xinhua.

It stated that attendees will assess the proposals for the next five year plan, which goes until 2025, and stated they’ll also assess “future targets for 2035.” Nikkei noted that many China watchers took the note about 2035 as a secret code suggesting that Xi intends to stay in power at least for the next 15 years, when he turns 82 -- the same age that Mao Zedong died at. Xi previously did away with term limits.

And as the US moves forward to ban the app, the Wall Street Journal has recently discovered that TikTok had been using methods banned by Google, to bypass security safeguards in the Android operating system to collect unique information from millions of mobile devices. It said this data would allow TikTok to track users online without users being able to opt out."ZXg8sFnLye4

[onawah]

Heavy rains for 72 hours, the 4th flood peak threatens to break "Three Gorges Dam"
360 views•Aug 13, 2020
World News

"The Three Gorges Dam is in a dangerous state, Sichuan rains heavily for 72 hours and counting."

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China flood shock news August 14: Earthquake combined with major floods broke the "Three Gorges Dam"
World News
8/13/20
"Mr. Xi issued a ban on wasteful eating, and China has a food crisis?
In the midst of epidemics, grasshoppers and floods that attacked China, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has always declared that "food is sufficient," but at the same time, forces farmers to "improve their fields. wild ”. Moreover, Mr. Xi Jinping recently issued a directive banning wasteful eating behavior. People questioned whether China had a food crisis."
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Xi Jinping feared that China would starve to death after the floods, so he issued a food ban
16,644 views•Aug 13, 2020
World News

"Flooding is widespread throughout southern China. On August 12, a magnitude 3.2 earthquake occurred in Nhuyu Cai district (Zoige), the autonomous continent of A Ba (Ngawa), Sichuan province, upstream of the Three Gorges Dam. In the past, there were some irrigation experts warned that the biggest risk of breaking the Tam Hiep dam is earthquakes, landslides upstream."
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[onawah]

"Three Gorges Dam" is suffering from the fourth flood
1,431 views•Aug 14, 2020
World News

(Misleading titles on some of these recent videos--the 3GD isn't "broken"--not yet, at least....But the torrential rains continue. )

"The Three Gorges reservoir in Central China's Hubei province is expected to see a new round of floods around August 14.
According to a preliminary forecast by the Changjiang Water Resources Commission of the Ministry of Water Resources, the inbound flow of water is to reach more than 50,000 cubic meters per second after continuous heavy rain battered the upper reaches of the Yangtze River."
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[onawah]

[B]THREE GORGES DAM UPDATE - Dam Failure Upstream, Debris
602 views•Aug 14, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
5.41K subscribers

(The next few days may be the real test. This channel continues to provide the best and most consistent updates on the 3GD I've seen so far. )

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[onawah]

NO.4 FLOOD HITS THREE GORGES DAM
2,122 views•Aug 15, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
5.66K subscribers

("Exponentially worse than previous flood records--and it can get worse--watching the coming 18 hours ...")

"Video showing that the no.4 flood has hit."
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[onawah]

Flood No. 4 has not passed yet, flood No. 5 Has arrived
8/17/20
World News

"Flood No. 4 just arrived, flood No. 5 formed, heavy rains lasted upstream, The Three Gorges Dam was in danger
Unusually long and heavy rains reappeared, and floods came to threaten the dam and its downstream."
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The maximum challenge for Three Gorges Dam, The Yangtze's water level may exceed the safety level
20,744 views•Aug 17, 2020
Latest News Blog
20.6K subscribers

" Flooding as a result of heavy rainfall in Shaanxi and Sichuan provinces caused the Yangtze River to overflow in recent days, inundating cities in China’s western regions.

The Yangtze’s water level in Chongqing city may exceed the safety level on Aug. 19, which means an embankment breach could happen at any time, according to state-run broadcaster CCTV, which cited officials.

China’s cabinet-like State Council said at a press conference on Aug. 13 that rainfall in areas along the Yangtze and Huai rivers have reached their highest levels since 1961.
Rainfall has begun to move north to the areas where the Yellow, Hai, Songhua, and Liao rivers lie. The Yellow River has experienced flooding since Aug. 11, but authorities have kept mum about its impact.

The Yangtze River Committee of China’s Water Resources Ministry announced on Aug. 16 that a new flood peak formed in the Jialing River, a main Yangtze tributary, and entered the Yangtze near Chongqing, a sprawling city with more than 30 million residents.

The peak of the Jialing river flooding is expected to trigger another flood peak in the Yangtze on Aug. 19, according to the committee.

The upper-stream area of the Yangtze River is also under threat from heavy rain, Chongqing authorities said on Aug. 16. Flooding from the Jialing River and the Yangtze’s upper stream may cause the latter’s water level to top its safety limit on Aug. 19."

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[onawah]

Bad news forthe CCP:China is concerned about the risk of the US spreading the financial iron curtain
2,724 views•Aug 17, 2020
World News

"The escalating tensions with the United States have raised concerns in China about a sweeping financial war that could lead to disqualification from the global US dollar system - a dire prospect. dire was once considered remote, but now it's not impossible."

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[norman]

Who here remembers Pastor Lindsey Williams ?


I remember he said, when it gets to currency wars, we'll know we're at the end game, or words to that effect.

[onawah]

Three Gorges Dam opens all 9 floodgates, China issued a flood warning for level 1 in Chongqing
76,035 views•Aug 18, 2020
Latest News Blog
21.3K subscribers

"The Yangtze River No. 5 flood is fierce! Chongqing's water level set a
record this year! The Three Gorges opened 9 holes for a record flood
discharge!.
August 18, the Yangtze River on the flood No. 5 by Chongqing main city center
city, Chongqing, the main city of the site level all the excess of the guaranteed
level, the highest this year recording. The main urban area of Chongqing
is seriously flooded, and the authorities have upgraded the flood defense
emergency response to Level I. In response to the fierce floods, the Three
Gorges opened 9 flood discharges again , with a discharge flow of 48,000
cubic meters per second, setting a new record this year.
According to Chongqing , local media reported, by the heavy rainfall, the
Yangtze River upstream tributary of the Minjiang, Tuojiang, Jialing River
continue to increase the amount of water, the Yangtze River water level in the
last day soared five meters, the Yangtze River Cuntan Telemetry water level:
187 meters above the guaranteed level About 4 meters, the highest water
level of Cuntan Station on the Yangtze River is expected to exceed 4.5-
5.5m. Currently, the Yangtze River No. 5 flood is still rising."
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A heavy snow hit China in the midsummer, the Yellow River's flood flow set a record
1,928 views•Aug 19, 2020
Latest News Blog
21.3K subscribers
"August 18, due to the recent Shaanxi, Gansu , Shanxi, heavy rainfall and other large area of the Yellow River , North River runoff rose, plus The flow of major hydrological stations on the Weihe River continued to increase. On August 18 , the Yellow River Tongguan Hydrological Station had a flow of 5,050 cubic meters per second , which was the fifth flood of the Yellow River in 2020 and set a new record this year, more than twice the previous flood.
On August 17, a heavy snow fell in Gannan Prefecture of Gansu Province in the midsummer of August . "
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5th and largest flood hits the Three Gorges Dam; Who is making money off of the flood?
29,030 views 8/19/20
China Observer - Vision Times
44K subscribers

"After the Fourth wave of flood in the Yangtze River passed through the Three Gorges Dam on August 15th, the Hydrological Bureau of the Yangtze River Committee of the Ministry of Water Resources of China stated on the 17th that the Fifth flood of the Yangtze River of 2020 has formed upstream of the Yangtze River.
The flood water level on aug 19, will exceed Chongqing Cuntan Hydrology Station’s guaranteed water level by 3 to 4 meters. The Three Gorges reservoir will reportedly see its biggest flood peak since its construction, with the incoming flow reaching 74,000 cubic meters per second on Aug. 20.
There was 1 and a half meter deep standing water near some communities, and a video on the Internet showed that a take-out delivery staff had to "swim" to deliver food. But when they reached downstairs of the building, because the customers lived on the 26th floor and the elevator was broken, they were unwilling to go downstairs to pick up the food. As a result, the delivery staff had to cancel the order and couldn't even earn 6 RMB for the delivery fee.
According to official documents, the Three Gorges Dam has 77 discharge gates, 67 holes laid along 3 layers. From the top down, they are called in order as “spill gates”, “deep discharge gates” and “conduit gates”.
This year, the Yangtze River flooding is very serious, and the amount of water flow is still greatly increasing. According to official media reports, since June 21, the Three Gorges Power Station 34 units are all generating power, with a daily power generation capacity of nearly 400 million kilowatt-hours. Shareholders of China Yangtze River Power Co. have made a huge profit, but the people who suffered because of these disasters, had lost everything, some including their lives. "
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[onawah]

Flood China 19/08 : Super typhoon No. 7 combined with flood number 5 severely damaged China
11,187 views•Aug 18, 2020
World News

"Hurricane Higos is expected to cause heavy rains in the southern regions of China in the coming days amid rising Yangtze water levels, leading to flood warnings."_hD7-Lq0FpM

[onawah]

THREE GORGES DAM POTENTIAL COLLAPSE - UPDATE
125 views•Aug 20, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
6.02K subscribers

"Video shows what the flooding in the Yangtze River looks like" (Incredible!)
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NO.5 FLOOD HITS CHINA & REACHES THREE GORGES DAM
2,910 views•Aug 19, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
6.02K subscribers


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[Richter]

CHINA FLOODING - CHONGQING 8/21/2020 (14:08)
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[onawah]

THREE GORGES DAM POTENTIAL COLLAPSE UPDATE - No.6 Flood On It’s Way?
408 views•Aug 21, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
6.12K subscribers

(He says that there are still 6 weeks to go with this year's monsoon season, and believes that severe cavitation is happening and is very damaging to the dam. More to come next week re the #6 flood.)
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[onawah]

A surprisingly good and very illuminating explanation of what cavitation is here:
Cavitation & the Glen Canyon Dam
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THREE GORGES DAM POTENTIAL COLLAPSE UPDATE - No.6 Flood On It’s Way?
408 views•Aug 21, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
6.12K subscribers

(He says that there are still 6 weeks to go with this year's monsoon season, and believes that severe cavitation is happening and is very damaging to the dam. More to come next week re the #6 flood.)

[onawah]

Poignant perspective from a native on the contrast between China before the current flooding and now, with #5 flood.

Hongyadong completely flooded. Worst Flood Hits Chongqing, Yangtze River's No 5 Strikes 3 Gorges Dam
2,360 views•Aug 22, 2020
Chun Ming Ng
14.2K subscribers

"Latest News: Filmed on 22nd August 2020 Hongya Cave, Chongqing China.

The Three Gorges Dam has seen the largest flood peak since the construction of the reservoir, reaching 75,000 cubic meters per second, exceeding the largest inflow in history.

On 20 August, the Cuntan Hydrological Station in Chongqing rose over the high of 191.41 metres (628.0 ft), which was set in 1981. Downtown streets, houses, parks, and wharves, were inundated.

In all, 219 people have died or are missing in this year’s floods, and more than 65 million residents have been affected so far.

Thousands of residents in Chongqing in China’s southwest have been evacuated and riverside shops and scenic spots closed, as the megacity braces for its biggest flood in 40 years.

For the first time, authorities have issued a level-one flood emergency response, the highest alert in a four-tier scale.

The flood, the fifth on the Yangtze River this year, hit the city on Thursday and arrived at the same time as the second wave from the Jialing River – a tributary that joins the Yangtze in Chongqing – passed through.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang arrived in Chongqing on Thursday morning to assess conditions, visiting the village of Shuangba in Tongnan district, where flooded fields and houses have affected the livelihood of more than 8,000 people there.

The first floor of Chongqing Hongya Cave (Hongyadong) Scenic Area was completely flooded for the first time in history.

Hongya Cave (Hongyadong) has a history of over 2,300 years. It built alongside a steep cliff on the bank of Jialing River. It has become the most popular destination for visitors - You can see Chinese ethnic culture, a lovely view over the Jialing river, the sell large number of taste delicious food. The stunning night view is a highlight and should not be missed.
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On my channel, you will find videos about food, traveling, photography, movies, cinematography. I am an amateur photographer and travel blogger, I travel the world collecting materials, and share my travel experience with you on YouTube. I am passionate about video and photography; I also love food and movies. My goal is to make these videos and share my travel experience and passion with you. I have many video footages on cooking and travel; I also collect many travel and landscape photos taken around the world. I want to share them with you! Do not forget to subscribe and make sure to click the Like button and share the video (if you like). Thank you!
Best regards"
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[onawah]

Not to be missed! This explains very clearly just how and why the 3 Gorges Dam may be in danger of collapse.

A surprisingly good and very illuminating explanation of what cavitation is here:
Cavitation & the Glen Canyon Dam
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THREE GORGES DAM POTENTIAL COLLAPSE UPDATE - No.6 Flood On It’s Way?
408 views•Aug 21, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
6.12K subscribers

(He says that there are still 6 weeks to go with this year's monsoon season, and believes that severe cavitation is happening and is very damaging to the dam. More to come next week re the #6 flood.)

[onawah]

Why I left China for Good!
1,704,733 views•Jul 3, 2020
serpentza
762K subscribers
"Only now am I able to truly talk about all the things I saw, filmed and experienced in China. Having moved out of the country I now have the freedom to speak unreservedly and I would like to first let you all know why it is that I left China, a country that I loved in the first place."

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[onawah]

North Korea Patrol Boat Fired At Chinese Fishing Boats; Richest Woman in China bought $2.5M Passport
42,300 views 8/26/20
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
409K subscribers

"Chinese authorities announced plans to remake Mao Zedong’s Rectification Campaign, which was the Party’s bloodiest internal purge. Chen Yixin, Secretary-general of the Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission, who also directs the National Political and Legal Affairs Team Education and Rectification Pilot Office announced that the first stage of the campaign has already been completed.

The official announcement cites Mao, and states the Chinese government has again started a campaign to purge “corrupt elements” in order to create an “ironclad army” of law enforcement agencies. Mao’s Yan’an Rectification Campaign, which lasted from 1942 to 1945, focused on internal indoctrination in the party to “unify their thinking” and killed an estimated 10,000 in purges mainly focused on party members.

The new campaign will look to ensure that police, judges, and state security agents stay unconditionally loyal and in line with party policy, and to Xi Jinping. And while it will function as a party purge, it will also be viewed as Xi proactively fighting corruption in China’s legal systems."

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[Richter]

Three Gorges Dam Update August 26 2020 (12:10)
An update on the status of the Three Gorges Dam and China's historic flooding.
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FLOODS RETURN TO THREE GORGES DAM - August 28 (5:18)
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[Richter]

China Is Flooding - The CCP’s Pathetic Response (6:20)
Aug 29, 2020
Chinese officials warn the worst is yet to come with out of control Yangtze River flooding that's
having a devastating effect on the mega city Chongqing & downstream the city of Wuhan. And
with surging flood waters, there's more concern of the 3 Gorges Dam collapsing. But with the
people of China suffering, the Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jinping have begun a pathetic
response to the China floods, staging fake meetings with victims and focusing more on food
waste campaign targeting Mukbang to cover up an impending food shortage throughout the
country
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China flood 29/8: Flooding on the Yangtze River peaked (3:08)
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[onawah]

China renews blue alert for rainstorms
Aug 30, 2020
The Specifications
14K subscribers

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[Bill Ryan]

Published 15 hrs ago by Simone Gao. She's pretty good. :thumbsup:

The Ongoing Danger of the Three Gorges Dam.
Pt 1: Will It Become a Military Target?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4aBLMwC5Us

[Adi]

https://www.rfi.fr/cn/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD/20200820-%E5%8F%B2%E4%B8%8A%E6%9C%80%E5%A4%A7%E6%B4%AA%E5%B3%B0%E8%BF%87%E9%95%BF%E6%B1%9F%E4%B8%89%E5%B3%A1-%E5%A4%A7%E5%9D%9D11%E5%AD%94%E6%B3%84%E6%B4%AA-%E5%9D%9D%E4%B8%8B%E6%B0%B4%E6%83%85%E6%9C%AA%E7%9F%A5 Translation:The largest flood peak in history has crossed the Yangtze River Three Gorges Dam 11 hole spillway under the dam water situation is unknown.

[Bill Ryan]

https://www.rfi.fr/cn/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD/20200820-%E5%8F%B2%E4%B8%8A%E6%9C%80%E5%A4%A7%E6%B4%AA%E5%B3%B0%E8%BF%87%E9%95%BF%E6%B1%9F%E4%B8%89%E5%B3%A1-%E5%A4%A7%E5%9D%9D11%E5%AD%94%E6%B3%84%E6%B4%AA-%E5%9D%9D%E4%B8%8B%E6%B0%B4%E6%83%85%E6%9C%AA%E7%9F%A5 Translation:The largest flood peak in history has crossed the Yangtze River Three Gorges Dam 11 hole spillway under the dam water situation is unknown.Yes, many thanks! :thumbsup:

The article was dated 20 August, 11 days ago. The full [automatic!] translation is:

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According to a report by the Central News Agency today, the largest flood peak in the history of the Three Gorges Dam has opened 11 flood discharge holes.

The report cited information from Hubei Radio and Television’s "Yangtze River Cloud" App that the Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River had its largest flood peak since its completion at 8 am today, with a flow of 75,000 cubic meters per second and 11 flood discharge holes have been opened.

The discharge flow reaches 49,200 cubic meters per second. The Three Gorges Dam opened 11 flood discharges at 7:50 last night. At that time, the discharge flow reached 49,400 cubic meters per second, which was the largest water discharge since the construction of the reservoir. As of 8 o'clock last night, the upstream of the Three Gorges Dam had reached 73,800 cubic meters per second.

According to sources, affected by heavy rainfall, the No. 5 flood occurred in the upper reaches of the Yangtze River recently. Chongqing, located in the upper reaches of the Yangtze River, is suffering from floods. The report quoted the news from China News Network in the morning. As of press time, more than 250,000 people have been transferred to avoid danger and more than 130,000 people have been relocated in emergency. The Paper last night quoted the Ministry of Water Resources as predicting that the peak flow of the Three Gorges Reservoir in the Yangtze River on the 20th may reach 76,000 cubic meters per second.

[onawah]

Cracks appear in China's giant dam
85,695 views•Aug 30, 2020

(It's hard to say if the cracks are serious or not, given how tightly managed the news from China is by the CCP.
From what I've read about cavitation, however, if the dam has been seriously damaged, it's not likely to show now because it will be happening where the water hits the dam the hardest, and that remains underwater until the floods go way down.
At the speed with which the water is hitting the dam before it's released through the flood gates, it seems very likely cavitation is occurring.
If cavitation was caused by the Colorado river carving out the Grand Canyon, the 3 Gorges Dam is surely not going to be immune to it.
From what we've been seeing concerning how the Chinese tend to takes lots of short cuts when it comes to construction, it seems like the centuries of flooding may have led them not to expect anything to last, and so to build accordingly.
A page from the book in the Buddhist philosophy about Impermanence. )

"A new surge in heavy rain and upstream flooding on the Yangtze River has caused many riverside businesses to shut down, while shipments along the river were halted on 28 August, affecting deliveries to manufactureers.

Many Chinese factories were forced to halt production in February and March due to the coronavirus outbreak. While the economy has been recovering since April, a disaster along the Yangtze, where industries like automobiles, semiconductors and display panels are based, could set things back.

Since flooding began in June, at least $26 Billion USD in economic losses have been incurred. Zhou Xuewen, Secretary general of China’s flood control headquarters, said in mid-August that at least 63 million people had been affected and 54,000 homes destroyed. At least 219 people have died or disappeared, he said."

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[Constance]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if deliberate climate and land geoengineering has had a hand to play in any or all of this.

[onawah]

Massive protests break out in China's Inner Mongolia
China arrests Australian anchor for Chinese state-TV
42,346 views• 8/31/20
China in Focus - NTD
553K subscribers

"China’s agriculture is already suffering from floods and drought. And now China’s southern provinces are facing their worst locust plague in decades.

Massive protests broke out over the weekend in Inner Mongolia. This came after a leaked secret order from Beijing, which some are calling a “cultural genocide.”

A high-profile Australian TV anchor has been detained in Beijing. She’s long appeared on business programs for China’s state-run English news channel CGTN. The news is adding fuel to already tense Australia-China relations.

China is hoping to get rid of its reliance on Western technology for high-end chips. With one key company coming to a halt, that dream is now hitting a major roadblock.

And the Czech Republic's second highest official is in Taiwan on a six day visit against the will of China. The Czech official called on Taiwan to defend its freedom and said democratic countries should support each other."
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[norman]

Are there any real and recent photos of the level of the water behind the dam ?

I see plenty of pictures of water blasting out but NONE (recent/current) of the water behind the wall.

Just wondering . . . after watching that Chinese language interview video above.

[Tintin]

Following on from my recent reporting of this here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111363-Turmoil-in-China&p=1371816&viewfull=1#post1371816):



China Demands Withdrawal of Indian Troops that Crossed Border in Ladakh


Source: Sputnik News (https://sputniknews.com/military/202009011080333779-china-demands-withdrawal-of-indian-troops-that-crossed-border-in-ladakh/)

07:08 GMT 01.09.2020 by Rishikesh Kumar

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India and China have deployed thousands of additional troops and military equipment in Ladakh region after first ever violent clash on 15 June, in which 20 Indian soldiers were killed. The physical fight erupted once again on 29 August in Chushul valley of Ladakh region.

A day after physical fighting in the Chushul area, China has accused Indian troops of trespassing across the Line of Actual Control on the southern bank of Pangong Lake, near the Regin Pass in the western sector of the China-India border, and conducted "flagrant provocations" on 31 August.


“(We) urged the Indian side to strictly control and restrain its front line troops, earnestly honour its commitments, immediately stop all the provocative actions, immediately withdraw its troops illegally trespassing (across) the Line of Actual Control, and immediately stop any actions leading to the escalation and complication of the situation,” Ji Rong, Spokesperson of Chinese Embassy in India said on Tuesday

The Chinese embassy in New Delhi has made “solemn representations to the Indian side” and asked New Delhi to withdraw all the front line troops (https://sputniknews.com/asia/202008311080328677-china-accuses-india-of-violating-line-of-actual-control-amid-renewed-border-clashes/) which “grossly violated China's territorial sovereignty" and "seriously violated relevant agreements”.

Rong said the Indian move had worked against efforts made by both sides for a period of time to ease and cool down the situation on the ground.

Earlier on Monday, the Indian Army had claimed that the People's Liberation Army had carried out "provocative military movements (https://sputniknews.com/analysis/202009011080333045-armed-conflict-in-ladakh-certain-to-restore-status-quo-between-india-and-china---army-veteran/)" in the eastern Ladakh region, leading to fresh clashes between the troops of China and India during the night on 29-30 August.

The two countries share a 4,057 kilometre border, stretching from Kashmir to Arunachal Pradesh. As the border is loosely demarcated, it has been remained a source of tension between the two countries for decades.

[onawah]

This source :https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ4SZWRG3er8UNp2CxoZtnw (Dreadopedia) often has photos of the dam, but lately I haven't been seeing as many, so possibly the CCP is not allowing anyone near enough to take photos now.
However, any photos or footage of the dam where the water is blue instead of brown and turgid looking, will not be current. I don't think I've seen any photos for quite awhile of the debris that builds up on the reservoir side, but the amount of debris is considerable. .

Are there any real and recent photos of the level of the water behind the dam ?

I see plenty of pictures of water blasting out but NONE (recent/current) of the water behind the wall.

Just wondering . . . after watching that Chinese language interview video above.

[onawah]

(This article doesn't mention the affect that flooding is having on China, which is very strange because it's going to be a huge factor in China's trade capabilities, but even without that factoring in, China is facing a lot of changes, and the leadership seems to be dealing with that very counter-productively.)

US Firms Move Supply Chains Out of China, Explore Options Closer to Home
BY EMEL AKAN August 31, 2020
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us-firms-move-supply-chains-out-of-china-explore-options-closer-to-home_3482860.html?ref=brief_News&utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb

"WASHINGTON—The U.S.–China trade war and the COVID-19 pandemic have forced companies to reduce their excessive dependence on China as a single supplier.

U.S. brands have started to explore sourcing options closer to home, with Latin and South America gaining significant traction in recent months, according to a survey by Qima, a Hong Kong-based supply chain inspection company.

The survey conducted in July among more than 200 businesses around the world found that respondents are increasingly moving their sourcing away from China. Ninety-three percent of U.S. respondents reported that they had plans to further diversify their supply chains. Meanwhile, less than half of EU respondents had a similar strategy.

China is still a major global player for sourcing, however, its dominance has become “noticeably less dramatic” compared to prior years, according to a Qima report that shows key survey findings.

For example, 75 percent of respondents globally named China among the top 3 sourcing geographies this year, compared to an overwhelming 96 percent in 2019.

Many companies especially those in textile and apparel have made supplier diversification a priority for a while, with Vietnam continuing to gain popularity as an alternative to China.

“Consistently ranking among China’s regional competitors, Vietnam continues to reap the most benefits of the continued mass exodus of Western buyers from China, with 40 percent of EU respondents and almost as many U.S. brands including Vietnam among their top sourcing regions,” the report stated.

Among other Asian countries, Taiwan is emerging “an indisputable leader” as it enjoys overwhelming preference as a sourcing market among American companies.

The pandemic has also accelerated the need to reshore supply lines to the United States or near-shore to Latin and South America.

“For U.S.-based companies, sourcing destinations closer to their home country continue to grow steadily, with the popularity of Latin and South America almost doubling compared to last year,” the Qima report stated.

The survey found that 39 percent of U.S.-based companies indicated plans to source more from the United States and North America and 13 percent from South and Latin America.

“Meanwhile, EU brands are increasingly turning to Turkey as a near-shoring destination,” the report stated.

For decades, most large U.S. multinational corporations have heavily invested in facilities and human resources in China to gain access to the Chinese market, and they have already given up their intellectual property as a price of entry.

However, the pandemic, coupled with the souring sentiment against the Chinese communist regime over the past few months, has forced many corporate boards to dramatically alter their sourcing strategies.

Supply chain sustainability also has become a hot political topic as the November election approaches.

President Donald Trump pledged to end U.S. reliance on China and bring back 1 million manufacturing jobs in his second term. He recently proposed providing tax credits and allowing “100 percent expensing deductions for essential industries like pharmaceuticals and robotics” to incentivize companies to produce in the United States.

Trump also signed an executive order on Aug. 6 to ensure that essential medicines, medical supplies, and equipment are made in the United States.

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the Democratic nominee, also pledged to “bring back critical supply chains.” He promised to “bolster American industrial and technological strength and ensure the future is ‘made in all of America’ by all of America’s workers.”

In the past two decades, China has become a crucial global supplier. According to the United Nations, China accounts for nearly 20 percent of global trade in manufacturing intermediate products, up from 4 percent in 2002."

[onawah]

Exclusive] The Ongoing Danger of the Three Gorges Dam. Part 2: A Fatal Collapse? | Zooming In
62,255 views•Premiered 22 hours ago
Zooming In with Simone Gao
164K subscribers
#ThreeGorgesDamUpdate #ChinaFlooding #YangtzeRiverFlooding

"Today, we sit down with Mr. Wang Weiluo, a top water expert, to discuss how the fatal structural flaws of the Three Gorges Dam could induce earthquakes and flooding and eventually cause the dam to suffer a devastating blow.

In our last conversation, we touched upon two potential risks that would lead to the collapse of the Three Gorges Dam. The first is in the event of a military conflict; the second is the safety of the dam in the event of a terrorist attack. What other dangers are looming for the Chinese people living downstream?"

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[onawah]

China Flood 6 Sep 2020 ] Floods for 40 days, no relief | Three Gorges Dam | 3 Gorges Dam
2,165 views•Sep 5, 2020
You News2
6K subscribersO63rVCkO9O8

[norman]

China Flood 6 Sep 2020 ] Floods for 40 days, no relief | Three Gorges Dam | 3 Gorges Dam
2,165 views•Sep 5, 2020
You News2
6K subscribersO63rVCkO9O8

A frame from that video:
https://i.vgy.me/VsKJ8j.jpg

That water level is nowhere near maxed out. For all the flood talk, it looks more like they are draining the dam, to me.

I'm seriously beginning to think we are in the thick fog of war.




Where are the agricultural statistics coming from, too.

[onawah]

From what I've seen, a lot of these videos about China are inaccurate hodpodges from lots of different sources (no telling if they are credible at all) and have shots of the dam and the flooding from all different times.
That last one I posted may have been no exception.
And others are so obviously anti-China, so no telling how reliable they are either.
Not much I can post that can be authenticated, with the situation there being what it is.



China Flood 6 Sep 2020 ] Floods for 40 days, no relief | Three Gorges Dam | 3 Gorges Dam
2,165 views•Sep 5, 2020
You News2
6K subscribers

That water level is nowhere near maxed out. For all the flood talk, it looks more like they are draining the dam, to me.

I'm seriously beginning to think we are in the thick fog of war.

Where are the agricultural statistics coming from, too.

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This one raises more questions. Perhaps the CCP are pathological liars....
NO FLOODING? REALLY? THREE GORGES DAM?
12,148 views•Sep 5, 2020
DOBRINICH CHANNEL
7.07K subscribers
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[One]

That water level is nowhere near maxed out. For all the flood talk, it looks more like they are draining the dam, to me.

I'm seriously beginning to think we are in the thick fog of war.
Where are the agricultural statistics coming from, too.

Keeping spare capacity might be sensible though if you don't want to get into a situation where more valves may need opening, making the flooding situation worse.

Of course, you would want to open it all up if the dam wasn't holding up. Slow flood better than quick.

BdAnon said it would collapse within 19 days on the 1st.
https://paulfurber.net/bda/index.html

I am thinking and hoping the first situation is more likely though. Fingers crossed!

[onawah]

Ongoing Danger of the Three Gorges Dam. Part 3: Flood is Caused by Reservoirs and Dams.
1,104 views•Premiered 43 minutes ago
Zooming In with Simone Gao
164K subscribers
#ThreeGorgesDamUpdate #ChinaFlooding #YangtzeRiverFlooding

"Previously in our exclusive interview with top water expert Mr. Wang Weiluo, we talked about the cracks appearing on the Three Gorges Dam that could lead to earthquakes in the residential areas in the reservoir region. How is this different from the dam deforming? What would happen if numerous consecutive natural disasters were to hit the dam? And how capable is the dam of preventing floods? In this episode of Zooming In, Mr. Wang Weiluo explains how exactly the flooding was caused by excessive construction of reservoirs and dams. "

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[Sarah Rainsong]

I've been following this pretty closely, and in spite of all the (justifiable!) calls to alarm, the dam seems to be holding! I hope that's a good sign, that even with all the tremendous amount of rain and flooding, maybe it will continue to hold.

[onawah]

Maybe, but if you watch the video about cavitation, you will see that a lot of damage to a dam can be hidden until the water levels go way down.

I've been following this pretty closely, and in spite of all the (justifiable!) calls to alarm, the dam seems to be holding! I hope that's a good sign, that even with all the tremendous amount of rain and flooding, maybe it will continue to hold.

[onawah]

World's biggest dam: China's engineering masterpiece or environment disaster? | 60 Minutes Australia
110,736 views•Sep 8, 2020
60 Minutes Australia
2.44M subscribers

"This is China's most spectacular extravaganza. A hundred years in the making, costing $25 billion, one of the biggest engineering feats the world has ever seen. And, according to its critics, an environmental disaster on a monumental scale. The Three Gorges Dam is certainly a sight to behold, a massive wall of concrete spanning the mighty Yangtze River. The Chinese say it's all about flood control and clean hydro electric power. The environmentalists say true, it is about power. Power and national pride and the arrogance of man trying to tame forces of nature."
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( I think this is actually from 2008, though on the youtube page, it's dated 9/8/2020 :noidea: Still, some good background info and great scenery. )

[onawah]

China Floods 2020 - Update - Floodwaters Not Receding, Food Inflation & Famine
1,281 views•Sep 10, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
6.63K subscribers

"Video showing video evidence of china’s flood season"
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[Bill Ryan]

China Floods 2020 - Update - Floodwaters Not Receding, Food Inflation & Famine
1,281 views•Sep 10, 2020
Gorillas Forex Community
6.63K subscribers

"Video showing video evidence of china’s flood season"
zlPStzmJXsYYes, many thanks. This video is very telling. The Gorillas Forex Community channel (https://www.youtube.com/c/GorillasForexCommunity/videos) is by far the best of the China commentators and interpreters on YouTube.

I couldn't quite believe the price of the watermelon (119 Yuan) at 4:26, so I double-checked it... that's $17.50. Go figure. That's one tiny data point that points to huge trouble, very likely for us in the 'west' as well.

[happyuk]

China has recently tried to mix it with India in a border standoff and made a big fool of itself in the process:

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It would appear the PLA troops were no match for the merciless Himalayan climate and the Indians have preemptively occupied all the important heights overlooking Chinese positions.

It seems the CCP uses it media mouthpiece, the Global Times to resort to spreading propaganda how the PLA are better suited and prepared for the imminent winter. This September is crucial, in that positions need to be established before the onset of winter.

The PLA have two options: to de-escalate, or fight a winter war which they are woefully unprepared for. Various wags in the comments section have noted that wherever the PLA has set up camps in Ladudkh region, they have also setup oxygen tanks and supply pipelines, meaning that they are struggling to breathe at those heights.

[Bill Ryan]

China has recently tried to mix it with India in a border standoff and made a big fool of itself in the process:

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It would appear the PLA troops were no match for the merciless Himalayan climate and the Indians have preemptively occupied all the important heights overlooking Chinese positions.

It seems the CCP uses it media mouthpiece, the Global Times to resorted to spreading propaganda how the PLA are better suited and prepared for the imminent winter. This September is crucial, in that positions need to be established before the onset of winter.

The PLA have two options: to de-escalate, or fight a winter war which they are woefully unprepared for. Various wags in the comments section have noted that wherever the PLA has set up camps in Ladudkh region, they have also setup oxygen tanks and supply pipelines, meaning that they are struggling to breathe at those heights.Fascinating, thanks. I've been to Ladakh (quite high, too), but not in winter, where it's mercilessly cold. I'd back the Indians every time. The Chinese morale will be low, and the Indians are proudly defending their own national border. Besides all that, the Indians know everything there is to know about high-altitude mountaineering. So the Chinese posturing really is amusing to see. :)

[happyuk]

Now that China is struggling financially, even struggling to even feed its own population (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0kAeJ_X1Ok&feature=emb_logo) (China literally would not exist were it not for US soybean production), the CCP is doing what communists always do - revert to stealing private property:

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Even nationalising many ancestral properties:

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Major powers in the world no longer wish to forge strong trading ties with China, such is their distrust.

Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State, going on to state (in my humble opinion one of his most important speeches)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y8pxB1-NUk"


Look, we have to admit a hard truth. We must admit a hard truth that should guide us in the years and decades to come, that if we want to have a free 21st century, and not the Chinese century of which Xi Jinping dreams, the old paradigm of blind engagement with China simply won’t get it done. We must not continue it and we must not return to it.

As President Trump has made very clear, we need a strategy that protects the American economy, and indeed our way of life. The free world must triumph over this new tyranny.

Now, before I seem too eager to tear down President Nixon’s legacy, I want to be clear that he did what he believed was best for the American people at the time, and he may well have been right.

He was a brilliant student of China, a fierce cold warrior, and a tremendous admirer of the Chinese people, just as I think we all are.

He deserves enormous credit for realizing that China was too important to be ignored, even when the nation was weakened because of its own self-inflicted communist brutality.

In 1967, in a very famous Foreign Affairs article, Nixon explained his future strategy. Here’s what he said:

He said, “Taking the long view, we simply cannot afford to leave China forever outside of the family of nations…The world cannot be safe until China changes. Thus, our aim – to the extent we can, we must influence events. Our goal should be to induce change.”

And I think that’s the key phrase from the entire article: “to induce change.”

So, with that historic trip to Beijing, President Nixon kicked off our engagement strategy. He nobly sought a freer and safer world, and he hoped that the Chinese Communist Party would return that commitment.

As time went on, American policymakers increasingly presumed that as China became more prosperous, it would open up, it would become freer at home, and indeed present less of a threat abroad, it’d be friendlier. It all seemed, I am sure, so inevitable.

But that age of inevitability is over. The kind of engagement we have been pursuing has not brought the kind of change inside of China that President Nixon had hoped to induce.

The truth is that our policies – and those of other free nations – resurrected China’s failing economy, only to see Beijing bite the international hands that were feeding it.

We opened our arms to Chinese citizens, only to see the Chinese Communist Party exploit our free and open society. China sent propagandists into our press conferences, our research centers, our high-schools, our colleges, and even into our PTA meetings.

We marginalized our friends in Taiwan, which later blossomed into a vigorous democracy.

We gave the Chinese Communist Party and the regime itself special economic treatment, only to see the CCP insist on silence over its human rights abuses as the price of admission for Western companies entering China.

That was just a portion of Pompeos oratory, the full text can be found here:

https://www.state.gov/communist-china-and-the-free-worlds-future/

[Bill Ryan]

Carter Laren and Keri Smith are from the excellent YouTube channel Unsafe Space (https://www.youtube.com/c/UnsafeSpace/videos). They're smart, articulate, funny, and well-informed. Keri Smith is the former Social Justice Warrior, the heroine of this thread:


Former Social Justice Warrior Explains Why Social Justice Is All About Power And Control (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111381-Former-Social-Justice-Warrior-Explains-Why-Social-Justice-Is-All-About-Power-And-Control)

They do a bunch of interviews with equally smart people. Here's their 36-minute conversation with Jack Posobiec, who knows a thing or two about China.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13MeCLBar-A
Posobiec covers a great deal of important Chinese ground very quickly, but specially interesting to me was his most excellent and detailed summary of the repression of the Uighurs, from 8:05—15:24.

[happyuk]

China declares a war-time state as the virus continues to spread. It seems that the virus in China never really ended.

The excellent Joshua Philipp also analyses speculation on whether China has played any part in the violent unrest that has swept across the United States.

In particular the footage of BLM protesters going inside premises and harassing diners, very similar to what also happened during the cultural revolution (destruction) in China during that time. There are direct links between these.

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[onawah]

Floods broke the dyke, engulfed many villages, and thousands of people fled
25,792 views
Sep 18, 2020
World News

(The narrator has a very grating voice, but the info seems legit (it would be hard for the CCP to hide the events covered.)

"Buses filled with rocks and mud are pushed into the river to fill broken dikes in China
More than a dozen buses filled with rocks and mud inside have been pushed down a stretch of a river to fill a dyke broken by high water in China over the past several days."

(Expensive way to fill a dike!)
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[onawah]

THREE GORGES DAM - INTERNAL CAVITATION & CHINA FLOODS UPDATE
112 views•Sep 21, 2020
GFC TV
6.65K subscribers

"GFC TV" is from the same guy who created "Gorillas Forex Community" ( with the strong Manchester accent), who just recently returned from a break, and hopefully will be posting more now, as his posts about the 3GD are excellent.
He says here he's going to better organize his posts, and more will be coming about China, the Yangtze and the dam.
...And that he thinks the flood waters are so polluted they are causing damage to the dam and will not be going anywhere because of overall faulty management of the rivers in China.


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[onawah]

21 Large-scale Floods in China; Explosion News Removed; Chinese Regime Tightens Economy Control
Sep 23, 2020
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
434K subscribers

"Heavy rainfall continues in parts of China, and on September 22 water levels on the Songhua River in Harbin rose to its warning level. New flood alerts were issued by the Ministry of Water Resources, which warned of coming floods on the Jinsha River in Yunnan, Yuanjiang River, Duliu River in Guizhou, Hongshui River and Youjiang River in Guangxi. It also noted that some small and medium sized rivers in China are expected to have a “super-alarm level of floods.”

President Donald Trump harshly criticized the CCP at the 75th United Nations General Assembly. Trump stated that 75 years after the end of World War II, “we are once again engaged in a great global struggle. We have waged a fierce battle against the invisible enemy — the China virus — which has claimed countless lives in 188 countries.” He said, “As we pursue this bright future, we must hold accountable the nation which unleashed this plague onto the world: China.”

Trump noted that in the early days of the virus outbreak, “China locked down travel domestically while allowing flights to leave China and infect the world.” He noted that as this happened, “China condemned my travel ban on their country, even as they cancelled domestic flights and locked citizens in their homes.”

He noted other issues with the CCP, including its pollution and overfishing of the oceans, its carbon emissions which are close to twice that of the United States, and other problems. Trump stated, “Those who attack America’s exceptional environmental record while ignoring China’s rampant pollution are not interested in the environment. They only want to punish America, and I will not stand for it.”

This story and more in this episode of Crossroads."

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[onawah]

Massive fire at Huawei laboratory in Dongguan, Guangdong, China 🇨🇳 September 25 2020 东莞大火
41,863 views•Sep 25, 2020
chave weather - daily videos
77.7K subscribers

"A large fire breaks out at a Huawei factory in Dongguan City, Guangdong Province, China. September 25th 2020.
Huawei’s research and development lab in the city of Dongguan, China is on fire, with large clouds of gray smoke billowing from the building, according to multiple videos posted to social media and the state news outlet Global Times. It’s not clear what caused the blaze, but firefighters are on the scene"
More here: https://gizmodo.com/huawei-r-d-lab-catches-fire-in-dongguan-china-1845177778
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[avid]

More potential releases of vile substances/bugs.... ?

[onawah]

Level 4 Emergency Issued Over China Bubonic Plague Outbreak; A Mom Sues Wuhan Over Daughter's Death
9/29/20
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
436K subscribers

"Chinese leaders are moving forward with a new campaign to take over private industry, under the guise of a “mixed-ownership” government program. And recent developments within the Party suggest there’s a divide in the leadership. State media reported that on September 17, the State Council announced that China is ready to give its “continued, unswerving support” to reform and develop state-owned and private businesses. State media also said “greater efforts will be made in deepening mixed-ownership reform, strengthening the modern corporate structure and developing sound market-oriented operating mechanisms.”

Meanwhile, it appears that the actor Jackie Chan will get to keep his $17.6 mansion, after the auction was suddenly withdrawn the day before its planned foreclosure on September 28. Yahoo News cited people familiar with the case, and reported that the auction was withdrawn from the court due to an alleged “objection from an outsider influence.” Details are still thin.

And there are now reports that two types of bubonic plague have been found in Northern and Southern China. After original reports of a case in Inner Mongolia, a new case was confirmed on the evening of September 27 in Yunnan. The local government launched a level four emergency response to prevent the spread of the plague soon after it was confirmed. It was allegedly found after authorities conducted screenings for the disease across the whole county, after three rats were found dead in a village."
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[Tintin]

I'm trying to stay reasonably abreast of the tensions in the Ladakh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladakh) region that borders both India and China. As reported on this thread before this is an ongoing situation with huge ramifications if it gets out of hand. We'll see, and of course hope that it doesn't escalate.

India Reportedly Test-Fires Nuclear Missile With 800km Range Amid Border Tension With China

11:14 GMT 03.10.2020

Source: Sputnik News (https://sputniknews.com/india/202010031080652615-india-reportedly-test-fires-nuclear-missile-with-800km-range-amid-border-tension-with-china/)

India has conducted a slew of missile tests recently. Successful tests of laser-guided anti-tank missiles and Brahmos supersonic cruise missiles have also been conducted recently.

India successfully test-fired a new version of a surface-to-surface nuclear-capable ballistic missile on Saturday (https://sputniknews.com/military/202010011080631532-india-successfully-test-fires-laser-guided-anti-tank-missile-amid-tensions-with-china---video/), according to media reports. The Shourya surface-to-surface missile can hit a target at a range of 800 kilometres, media reports add.

News Agency ANI on Saturday cited sources as saying, "India today successfully test-fired a new version of Shourya surface-to-surface nuclear-capable ballistic missile which can hit targets at around 800 km range."

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""The Missile will complement the existing class of missile systems and will be lighter and easier to operate," the agency continued, quoting sources.

India's missile testing comes as tensions are growing between it and China over border disputes at the Line of Actual Control in Ladakh sector.

Only two days ago, India successfully tested a laser-guided, anti-tank missile with a range of more than four kilometres. The missile, developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), was fired from the third-generation Arjun main battle tank and hit targets with full accuracy.

Last month, DRDO successfully test-fired the Hypersonic Technology Demonstrator Vehicle (HSTDV). India is now the fourth country after US, China and Russia to have developed this technology.

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Related story: India Successfully Test Fires Laser-Guided Anti-Tank Missile Amid Tensions With China - Video (https://sputniknews.com/military/202010011080631532-india-successfully-test-fires-laser-guided-anti-tank-missile-amid-tensions-with-china---video/)

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Related story: India Does Not Recognise 1959 Line of Actual Control: New Delhi Lashes Out at China (https://sputniknews.com/world/202009291080609586-india-does-not-recognise-1959-line-of-actual-control-new-delhi-lashes-out-at-china/)

Headline - Despite several rounds of talks to defuse tensions in the Ladakh region, India and China have failed to reach a consensus on disengagement. Meanwhile, the two sides have made massive deployments of military assets in the Himalayan region.

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Three Gorges Dam Fun Facts & Clarity
227 views•Oct 3, 2020
GFC TV
6.68K subscribers

"This video discusses some facts about the three gorges dam."

(This is the same guy with the pronounced Manchester accent (most notably, he drops the "t" in water) who also has the youtube channel "Gorillas Forex Community" and has been making great videos about the 3GD. He took a break recently, but he is back now. This one is brief, but it sounds like there will be more coming soon.)
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Fatal Frontier America Totally Missed, 2020 US Election Digital Battle [Exclusive] Robert Spalding
47,130 views•Premiered Sep 30, 2020
Zooming In with Simone Gao
168K subscribers
" This interview and many others will be part of a documentary that will be released on YouTube on Oct. 18th. where we expose the CCP’s meddling in our election, their big data and AI ambition and how it endangers the foundation of our democracy.

At the heart of the TikTok and Oracle deal, is whether TikTok’s Chinese parent company ByteDance should remain the main stakeholder of the app. The Chinese Communist Party has been collecting private information of high profile celebrities, royalties and politicians in the UK and Australia. What do they need this data for? At a time when the Chinese regime is becoming more aggressive in big data and artificial intelligence, my interview with Robert Spalding, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. We discussed what it takes to protect American citizens and their data privacy. And why is Communist China against the rudimental premise of our democracy?"
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THREE GORGES DAM LEVEL AT QUESTION
13,766 views•Oct 7, 2020
DOBRINICH CHANNEL

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Xi Jinping Thought Classes Now Required; Norovirus Outbreak Hits China
28,100 views
10/9/20
Crossroads with JOSHUA PHILIPP
448K subscribers

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"The Vatican is in the process of renewing its deal with the Chinese Communist Party that recognizes CCP-appointed bishops as legitimate. To learn more about this we’ve invited to speak with us James Bascom, Assistant director of the Washington Bureau of the Catholic organization, the American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property.

Meanwhile, there was a large norovirus outbreak at a Chinese university in Shanxi, where around 100 male college students suddenly fell ill with a foodborne illness. There was very little information on what was taking place until the evening of October 8, when the Wucheng campus of Shanxi University of Finance and Economics announced that all students on the sixth floor of a dormitory building have been placed in isolation in their dorms.

And China leader Xi Jinping has joined Karl Marx and Mao Zedong as a required course at the top colleges in China. Nikkei reports that starting this Fall, 37 universities in China will launch introductory courses on Xi Jinping Thought. This will be done through the School of Marxism, which is an institution at the 37 universities, and instructs students on his theories.

These stories and more in this episode of Crossroads."

[Tintin]

From the Hindustan Times (https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-scoffs-at-china-s-new-excuse-for-ladakh-stand-off-cites-3-reasons/story-nxF7hqdlgxZ6xmwEknJJHL.html) today:

India demolishes China’s new excuse for Ladakh stand-off in 3 points
India China border: The PLA’s concerns around the Indian infrastructure upgrade in Ladakh stem from the fear that it could pose a military threat to the multi-billion China Pakistan Economic Corridor

Updated: Oct 14, 2020, 14:38 IST | Shishir Gupta - New Delhi

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India has rejected Chinese contention that its border infrastructure upgrade along the 3,488 km Line of Actual Control (LAC) is the crux of on-going military tensions, saying the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has already built and continues to construct roads and communication network on its side of the border.



“First, the bridges inaugurated by Defence Minister Rajnath Singh (https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/pakistan-china-creating-border-dispute-under-a-mission-rajnath-singh/story-3RM6ZlUep0mppLKEeDakdP.html) on Monday are away from the LAC and would facilitate civilian movement and access apart from military logistics. Second, China has never raised the issue of India’s infra upgrade at the on-going military-diplomatic talks. Third, what about the road, bridges, optical fibres, solar-heated huts and missile deployments of the PLA close to the LAC. India is only building infra on its side of the LAC and for that we do not need Chinese permission,” said a senior official.

According to military commanders, the PLA has drawn optical fibre for secure communication at contested Gogra-Hot Springs, used heavy-lift cranes to drop solar heated containers as accommodation for forward troops on north bank of Pangong Tso and have built a hospital in the depth area to cater to high-altitude sickness and medical problems associated with rarefied atmosphere.

However, according to China watchers, the reason why PLA is concerned about Indian infrastructure upgrade in Ladakh is that it could pose a military threat to the multi-billion China Pakistan Economic Corridor, or CPEC, to Pakistan that passes via Khunjerab Pass and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. It is understood that the Chinese have conveyed their concerns over CPEC to its all-weather ally Pakistan as India has very strongly objected to Beijing exploiting the ecologically sensitive Gilgit-Baltistan area and PoK.

The increased Indian military capacity and capability on the LAC also prevents the PLA from nibbling into East Ladakh in pursuance of its maximalist 1959 cartographical claim line.

The fact is that in 1976, the China Study Group headed by the then Cabinet Secretary had defined 65 patrolling points as limits for Indian Army on the Ladakh LAC. As these patrolling points were well within Indian perception of LAC, the PLA through tremendous border upgrades tried to turn these limits as Indian border. This was pointed out to the UPA regime by former foreign secretary Shyam Saran when, as the National Security Advisory Board chairman, he advocated that Indian troops must patrol up to at least the limits defined by CSG.

Over the years, China has pressurised India not only on the border but has also been condescending enough to ask New Delhi to maintain its non-aligned position and not get close to the United States. Beijing, on its part, believes that it belongs to a different league and has blocked India from becoming a member of Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), UN Security Council and even helped Pakistan to unsuccessfully try to get Indian engineers involved in Afghan reconstruction as global terrorists under 1267 UNSC resolution.

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Also Read: China doubled its air bases, air defences and heliports near LAC in three years (https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/china-doubled-its-air-bases-air-defences-and-heliports-near-lac-in-three-years-report/story-LgpbHDWgdfuh4cHwgyeQXP.html)

Also Read: India building border infra, deploying military root cause of tension: China (https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/india-building-border-infra-deploying-military-root-cause-of-tension-china/story-HJlhvB3dUAsTYB8IdDO7cK.html)

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Natural disasters again hit China, 12 earthquakes in 8 days, revolution against CCP is coming
19,698 views•Oct 17, 2020

Latest News Blog
► Natural disasters again hit China, 12 earthquakes in 8 days of Chinese National Day holiday, revolution against CCP is coming

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American Republic vs CCP Documentary | ZOOMING IN SPECIAL
28,643 views•Premiered Oct 20, 2020
Zooming In with Simone Gao
170K subscribers

"#TikTok — an app often used for entertainment. But could it be a tool for #China ? And is the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) using TikTok to manipulate the presidential #election while creating chaos and division in the United States?

Join investigative journalist Simone Gao as she explores the unprecedented danger America now faces from the CCP. She will reveal how Big Data and Artificial Intelligence (AI) are used to hijack TikTok’s unique algorithm in order to efficiently spread targeted propaganda to American citizens.

Through interviews with Chinese AI insiders and American military and technology experts, as well as deep research into the effectiveness of prior CCP propaganda efforts, Simone will uncover the extent of the danger TikTok represents.

Does the U.S. have a plan to counter the CCP? And is it enough to save the Republic?"

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American Republic vs CCP Documentary | ZOOMING IN SPECIAL
28,643 views•Premiered Oct 20, 2020
Zooming In with Simone Gao
170K subscribers

"#TikTok — an app often used for entertainment. But could it be a tool for #China ? And is the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) using TikTok to manipulate the presidential #election while creating chaos and division in the United States?

Join investigative journalist Simone Gao as she explores the unprecedented danger America now faces from the CCP. She will reveal how Big Data and Artificial Intelligence (AI) are used to hijack TikTok’s unique algorithm in order to efficiently spread targeted propaganda to American citizens.

Through interviews with Chinese AI insiders and American military and technology experts, as well as deep research into the effectiveness of prior CCP propaganda efforts, Simone will uncover the extent of the danger TikTok represents.

Does the U.S. have a plan to counter the CCP? And is it enough to save the Republic?"


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Eye opening video. Thanks, Natalie. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/hug-two.gif

Unfortunately, many don’t stand a chance to break free from the infection. Fingers crossed as the clock ticks down, they’ll remember to snap out of the robotic stupor to choose spiritual journey over an eternity of hell-hole tech enslavement.

PS Gemma13, thank you for the repost. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/comes-in-hug.gif


I'm fairly convinced now that the strategists behind Q not only knew the barrage of crap Trump was going to have to deal with but knew he would be vilified beyond reason on Big Tech and mainstream media platforms while the Criminal Democrats would be given safe passage behind the gag orders.


Snap Out of It - Moonstruck
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When CCP Is Empowered by Big Tech, An Interview with Huawei Big Data Expert | Zooming In Extra
12,676 views•Premiered Oct 31, 2020
Zooming In with Simone Gao
180K subscribers

( The CCP want turmoil in the US!)

"In Zooming In's recent documentary movie “The American Republic vs the CCP, ” Simone interviewed a Chinese big data expert, former Huawei employee Jack. In this episode of Zooming In, we will present the full interview of Jack by Simone.

They discussed the possible joint venture between TikTok and Oracle; whether it would be a safe arrangement for the American people; and whether Oracle itself is trust worthy.

TikTok said it stores data in Singapore and the U.S. and that China doesn’t have access to it. Can we trust them?

The Chinese national security agencies are stationed in big tech companies for the sole purpose of using their data to do their surveillance job. How should America deal with a totalitarian state empowered by big data and artificial intelligence?

Simone and Jack discussed these questions and more."

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[Tintin]

Recent developments suggest that India and China have now developed a 3-step plan (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/india-china-agree-on-three-step-disengagement-plan-from-pangong-lake-area/articleshow/79167126.cms) to reduce tensions along the disputed line of control on the Ladakh border. However, this article tries to address the all important question of blanket silence around the stand-off, from the mainstream news outlets. This oughtn't to come as too much of a surprise as the CCP have already invested heavily in Western media outlets' control of their preferred narrative - a kind of "Operation Red Crowned Crane (https://www.chinahighlights.com/travelguide/national-symbols.htm#:~:text=The%20Red%20Crowned%20Crane%20is,symbol%20of%20elegance%20and%20flight.)" (China's national bird) for want of a better analogy.

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Source: The Diplomat (https://thediplomat.com/2020/09/the-india-china-ladakh-crisis-why-so-silent-world/)

The India-China Ladakh Crisis: Why So Silent, World?

The fact that the tense standoff in Ladakh has not led to a greater impression on the public in the U.S. and elsewhere raises uncomfortable questions.

By Abhijnan Rej | September 24, 2020

Toward the end of last week, a Western analyst who specializes in East Asian strategic affairs messaged me to discuss the latest turn in the ongoing India-China military standoff in Ladakh, as we have periodically done over the last few months. But this time around, he noted something that has been on the minds of many since the crisis started early May: Despite the gravity of the situation, the world seems to be relatively blasé about it.

True, as the crisis has deepened — with clashes and deaths, and reports of firing on the Line of the Actual Control (which serves as the de facto though undefined border between the two countries) for the first time in more than 40 years – the international press has covered the standoff with increasing regularity. But the impression that the current crisis deserves far more attention than what it has received so far is unmistakable.

Consider this: You have India and China — Asia’s second and fourth most powerful militaries (https://power.lowyinstitute.org/) – in a standoff that will enter its fifth month in less than two weeks. Add to this the possibility that in event of a shooting war between the two, Pakistan, another top-10 regional military power, may also join in to open a new front against India — and all three countries are nuclear-armed. Top it off with the (much-repeated) facts that China and India together make up a third of the planet’s population and they are the second and fifth largest economies in the world, and you’d perhaps also wonder why the India-China crisis is not jumping off the screen for you.

I can think of four different reasons, each troubling in its own right.

The first has to do with how India’s strategic orientation is widely perceived, beyond the coterie of government officials, think tankers, and journalists in key Western capitals. When we think of wars India might fight, Pakistan – and Kashmir – immediately comes to mind. To be sure, this mental hyphenation has been reinforced by New Delhi’s own very public obsession with Pakistan and its material military posture.

But Kashmir has always been a dispute involving three powers, though admittedly China had been, for a considerable period of time, relatively silent about it. It is a matter of no small irony that India’s most serious national security challenge since the 1999 Kargil conflict with Pakistan is in Ladakh – which formed part of the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir till August last year.

Which brings me to my second reason. While India has vocally sought the United States’ intercession and public support any time it has gotten into a scrap with Pakistan, it has – as Tanvi Madan and others have reminded us – preferred that the United States refrain from commenting on its difficulties with China, while counting on quiet help. (This was the delicately balanced apple cart that President Donald Trump’s rash statements about the ongoing standoff in May threatened to overturn (https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/trump-card-sino-indian-rivalry).)

But even assuming that the relative silence of the U.S. government is strategic, and mindful of India’s preference, one can safely conjecture that, consequentially, the American public at large — insofar as it concerns itself with the larger world at a time of great political turmoil at home, not to mention a raging pandemic — has been unaware of the gravity of the unfolding situation.

Beyond that is a matter of simple ignorance: how many are aware of the fact that almost the entire 3,488 kilometers border between India and China is disputed, the largest such in the world? (In contrast and ironically, a large fraction of the India-Pakistan border is settled, agreed on by both sides on map and ground.)

Could it be that India’s own confused, and therefore confusing, China policy, under the garb of a stated posture of strategic autonomy, has something to do with how the current standoff has not registered in the public consciousness?

Over the years, India has blown hot and cold when it comes to China, setting the border issue aside to pursue economic and political cooperation with its largest neighbor. A 2017 statistical analysis (https://www.orfonline.org/research/fine-balance-india-voting-record-unga/) shows that between 2001 and 2015, the rest of the BRICS (China included) have closely tracked India’s voting pattern in the U.N., suggesting substantial political convergence in multilateral forums.

For reasons that remain unclear, the Indian government continues to (https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/The_India_Way_Strategies_for_an_Uncertai/ElHxDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover) equate India’s cooperation with Russia and China with its three-way consultations with the U.S. and Japan. With this, and more, in the backdrop one can perhaps forgive why foreigners have, by and large, failed to grasp the simmering tensions between India and China that have now dramatically come to the fore.

Finally, there is that fundamental question of interests. Strip away the rhetoric of making common cause with like-minded democracies in the Asia-Pacific, of India as a “major defense partner,” or even the flattering Indo-Pacific nomenclature and ask: What exactly is at stake for the United States in the current standoff? Also ask: How would the United States react if a crisis like this was building up between China and Japan, or perhaps China and Australia – hypotheticals that are ultimately about the future of the U.S. as the Pacific hegemon? Put another way, if India tomorrow was to fold – and accept a new status quo in Ladakh – what would the United States, all said and done, stand to lose?

Sure, one certain corollary of the current standoff would be India’s military strengthening its continental focus, and concomitantly, not being able to do its part in terms of maritime burden-sharing (however the U.S. and its Asian allies imagine that to be).

But it is an unoriginal observation that already before the current crisis India — beyond enthusiastically jumping into an array of consultative mechanisms – was faltering in meeting the United States’ expectations (https://warontherocks.com/2018/02/america-has-high-expectations-for-india-can-new-delhi-deliver/), leading to an “India fatigue” in Washington (if some close observers are to be trusted). If the current crisis ends up with New Delhi doubling down on its frontiers, could it exacerbate this fatigue, leading to a moment of reckoning in the U.S.-India relationship?

The current India-China standoff raises these uncomfortable questions – for India, the U.S., and the world. But they must be asked, and eventually answered.

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Other, related:
[Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qF8nRkMctI&ab_channel=ThePrint)]: A new proposal on the table in India-China talks on Ladakh. Changing strategic picture & what’s new

[Times of India (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/india-china-agree-on-three-step-disengagement-plan-from-pangong-lake-area/articleshow/79167126.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst)]: India, China on verge of reaching agreement to resolve border standoff in eastern Ladakh

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Rain, Rain and More Rain in China
Cloud Bursts and Widespread Flooding in China Kills Over 570
53,750 views•Nov 24, 2020

The Specifications
23.5K subscribers
"In the inland Chinese city of Yichang, the murky water ran waist-high, stranding people in their cars and turning streets into canals. Near the metropolis of Chongqing, angry torrents of water swept away country roads. The tourist town of Yangshuo experienced a cloudburst that an official called a once-in-two-centuries event.

Weeks of abnormally intense rains have wrought destruction across southern China, leaving at least 570 people dead or missing and affecting 15 million residents in the worst flooding that parts of the region have seen in decades."
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China’s Dark History With Dam Failures - 1975 Banquiao Dam Disaster
264 views•Nov 22, 2020
GFC TV
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China Has Been Secretly Stockpiling Nuclear Weapons 2020 - Part 1
296 views•Nov 23, 2020
GFC TV
6.49K subscribers
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There was a correction made by GFC TV in the comment section: "I also meant to say that China’s coal power plants run at 50% capacity. Not their nuclear power plants."

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Rain, Rain and More Rain in China
Cloud Bursts and Widespread Flooding in China Kills Over 570
53,750 views•Nov 24, 2020

The Specifications
23.5K subscribers
"In the inland Chinese city of Yichang, the murky water ran waist-high, stranding people in their cars and turning streets into canals. Near the metropolis of Chongqing, angry torrents of water swept away country roads. The tourist town of Yangshuo experienced a cloudburst that an official called a once-in-two-centuries event.

Weeks of abnormally intense rains have wrought destruction across southern China, leaving at least 570 people dead or missing and affecting 15 million residents in the worst flooding that parts of the region have seen in decades."
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Truth of Flood in China's Chongqing City (6:29)
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Three Gorges Dam New Flood Alert 🚨 November 2020
405 views•Nov 29, 2020
GFC TV
6.5K subscribers

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China’s 2020 Floods Will Lead To Global Food Price Inflation in 2021
233 views•Nov 29, 2020
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Three Gorges Dam Potential Collapse Could Be Caused By Debris & Internal Cavitation
440 views•Dec 1, 2020
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6.49K subscribers
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Chinese communist regime has ‘disgraced itself’ for the entire world to see
491,133 views•Nov 30, 2020
20K
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1.04M subscribers

"Sky News host Chris Smith says the Chinese communist regime has “disgraced themselves in front of the world” after posting a doctored picture of an Australian soldier holding a knife to a child’s neck.

“The Chinese Communist Party and its regressive government have outdone themselves,” Mr Smith said.

The doctored image – which has not been censored by Twitter despite being faked – were published by China’s foreign ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian who said he was “shocked by murder of Afghan civilians & prisoners by Australian soldiers”. "
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Earthquake in southwestern China left 175 dead 1,402 injured -700 rescuers continue to assist
70,844 views•Dec 2, 2020

World News

"At least 175 people were killed, 1,402 injured. Yunnan province, southwestern China, has just suffered the strongest earthquake in 14 years, causing widespread casualties and damage.
Around 4:30 pm On November 30 (local time), a 6.5 magnitude earthquake brought a magnitude 4.1 aftershock in the remote mountainous area of ​​northeast Yunnan province, causing the least amount of 175 people were killed, 1,402 injured and 181 people remained missing, China Daily quoted information from the China Warning Network Center. The most severely affected was the epicenter of Lu Dien district, Chieu Thong city, Northeastern province with more than 100 people killed, 2,000 houses collapsed and 30,000 houses damaged. The remaining victims were killed in two neighboring districts.

AFP quoted information from the American Institute of Geophysics said that many people in Chieu Thong live in old apartments, not capable of high seismic tolerance, so the casualties will be very large. According to experts and rescue workers, many more people may be trapped under the bricks, so the number of casualties could soar.
Images from the site of the earthquake showed panicked crowds fleeing apartment complexes. After that, many people gathered to stand in front of their dilapidated house with a look of fear and shock on their faces. One resident in Lu Dien was shocked to tell Xinhua: “It was terrible, everything around me collapsed, including the newly built two-story building. The desolate scene like a battlefield had just been bombed. The consequences were much more terrible than the earthquake two years ago. I have never seen the earth shake so violently ”. A volunteer participating in the rescue said: “I have participated in saving more than 40 people. We also saw a lot of bodies trapped in the rubble but couldn't do anything because it was a priority to save survivors. The earthquake also affected telecommunications systems and caused widespread power outages.

The army, police and some 700 rescuers are still working hard to find the victims. The Chinese government has sent 2,000 tents, 3,000 folding beds, 6,000 blankets and warm clothes to assist families evacuated due to homelessness. However, the rescue work is facing many difficulties because right before the earthquake, the landslide area was damaged and stopped working, according to Xinhua. The local government ordered urgent repairs and temporarily reopened some roads for post-seismic rescue work.
The mountainous region in southwestern China is located between the provinces of Yunnan, Sichuan and Guizhou, which are difficult to travel with frequent strong earthquakes, leading to extremely serious consequences."
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Huge quakes in China
(I don't know why Dutchsinse hasn't reported more on these, though he has been predicting them in recent updates--perhaps they aren't being reported on regular channels, and news of the extensive damages haven't reached the mainstream yet.
On the other hand, reports about China are often questionable, though these look legit.)


Huge earthquakes in Sichuan and Xinjiang left many people dead and millions of homes buried
37,246 views•Dec 6, 2020
World News
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"China: Strong earthquake in Sichuan, Xinjiang, increased casualties
China suffered two strong earthquakes in Sichuan and Xinjiang. Notably, the number of earthquake casualties in Jiuzhaigou (Sichuan) continued to increase.
China Central People's Station (CNR) said that as of 3 p.m. (local time) on December 4, 19 people had been killed and 217 injured in the magnitude 7 earthquake. the evening of December 3 in Jiuzhaigou district, Sichuan province.

As of 7am on December 4, the earthquake had caused 769 aftershocks in the area, including 13 strong aftershocks from 3 to 3.9 degrees of Richter. Experts from the Sichuan Earthquake Bureau warned that in the next few days, Jiuzhaigou district still has the possibility of a strong earthquake of about 6 magnitude.

Immediately after the earthquake occurred, the local government mobilized many forces, machines, and motor vehicles to participate in overcoming the consequences. The local government evacuated more than 30,000 people. It is expected that more than 20,000 people will need to be evacuated.
Before that, a magnitude 7 earthquake occurred in Sichuan province on the night of December 3, killing 19 people and injuring 175 people, including 2 foreigners. The above figures are statistics until 9:30 am 4/12 (local time) provided by the local government office.

China National Committee on Disaster Mitigation said, based on preliminary analysis of the quake, there could be more than 130,000 homes damaged.

The China Earthquake Network Center (CENC) said the earthquake's epicenter was 20 kilometers deep, at 33.2 degrees north latitude and 103.82 east longitude. About 20 minutes after the quake, another aftershock of magnitude 3.3, depth of 9 km, was also recorded.

People living in Chengdu, the capital of Sichuan province, 300 kilometers south of the epicenter, also felt the quake.

* On the morning of December 4, a magnitude 6.6 earthquake occurred in Tinh Ha district, Xinjiang autonomous region, China, leaving at least 3 people injured.

The Xinhua News Agency reported that the three victims were all local and were injured by the collapse of the house due to the concussion.

Some neighboring cities such as Xuong Cat, Y Ninh and Karamay recorded strong tremors lasting 10-20 seconds at the time of the earthquake.

According to regional government statistics, at the time of the earthquake, there were about 760 people within a radius of 20 km from the epicenter and about 53,000 people within 50 km of the epicenter.

The Xinjiang government and the Chinese government have both ordered an emergency response and sent relief groups to help with the consequences.

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[onawah]

Xinjiang Three Gorges Dam Earthquake🚨🚨 - December 2020
183 views•Dec 6, 2020
GFC TV
6.49K subscribers
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[onawah]

Three Gorges Dam Potential Collapse - Understanding Flow Rate
Dec 8, 2020
GFC TV
6.49K subscribers

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[onawah]

Myanmar is exposing China’s desperation for rice
206,749 views•Dec 10, 2020
TFIglobal
240K subscribers

"It seems that China neither has food, nor money to feed its citizens. The food crisis in China is quite an embarrassment for the government of the second-largest economy in the world and Myanmar is all set to expose China's desperation for rice. Watch the video for more."
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(Though it's hard to tell what news about China is true, it seems likely this news is true, considering how much of China's farmland has been flooded.)

[Richter]

Rocket Launch Ends in Explosion Over Suzhou, China - Dec 26, 2020 (2:17)
Two glowing objects seen near rocket launch which soon explodes.
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[onawah]

That's an amazing clip, but it didn't occur over China. If you go to the youtube page, you will see this now:
"Correction: UFOs Near SpaceX Rocket Launch from Vandenberg AFB ~ 10-7-18, UFO Sighting News.
21,308 views•Dec 26, 2020
UFO Sightings Daily
45.6K subscribers
THIS WAS EMAILED TO ME INCORRECTLY IDENTIFIED AS CHINA. CORRECTION MADE. EMAIL REPORT SENT ME MISS IDENTIFIED INFORMATION. TITLE AND DATE NOW CORRECT. MY APPOLOGIES, SCW. HARD TO TRUST EMAIL ANYMORE.

Rocket Launch Ends in Explosion Over Suzhou, China - Dec 26, 2020 (2:17)
Two glowing objects seen near rocket launch which soon explodes.
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[onawah]

China's Religious Suppression Could Spread if Not Challenged—Interview with William L. Saunders
21,341 views•Premiered Jan 4, 2021
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571K subscribers

"Many religious groups are targeted for persecution in China, including Christians, Catholics, Falun Gong practitioners, Muslim Uyghurs, and Tibetan Buddhists, and if these persecutions are not challenged, the regime's programs for religious suppression risk spreading around the world. To learn more about this we've invited to speak with us William L. Saunders, religious liberty and human rights scholar at The Catholic University of America, and chair of the Religious Liberties Practice Group of the Federalist Society."
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[onawah]

Pompeo Lifts Restrictions on US Contact With Taiwan Officials
BY CATHY HE January 9, 2021
https://www.theepochtimes.com/pompeo-lifts-restrictions-on-us-contact-with-taiwan-officials_3650370.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-09-3

"The United States will remove all “self-imposed restrictions” on contact with Taiwanese officials, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced on Jan. 9, laying the groundwork for closer relations with the democratic island.

The announcement, made during the final days of President Donald Trump’s term, marks the latest move to deepen ties with the self-governed island. The Chinese regime views Taiwan as part of its territory, to be brought into its control by force if necessary, and opposes any U.S. official contact with the island.

The secretary lifted decades-old “complex internal restrictions” that have regulated diplomats, service members, and other officials’ interactions with their Taiwanese counterparts, according to a statement.

“The United States government took these actions unilaterally, in an attempt to appease the Communist regime in Beijing,” Pompeo said. “No more.”

He ordered executive agencies to treat so-called “contact guidelines” on Taiwan previously issued by the State Department as null and void.

The United States does not have a formal diplomatic relationship with Taiwan, but maintains unofficial ties with the self-ruled island under the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA) 1979.

The TRA authorizes the United States to provide the island with military equipment for its self-defense, and set up a nonprofit corporation called the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT), which is now the de-facto U.S. embassy on the island.

Pompeo also ordered that the executive branch’s relations with Taiwan are to be exclusively handled by AIT.

“Today’s statement recognizes that the U.S.-Taiwan relationship need not, and should not, be shackled by self-imposed restrictions of our permanent bureaucracy,” he said.

The Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office, the island’s de-facto embassy in the United States, welcomed to action, saying it reflected the “strength and depth” of the relationship.

“We look forward to broadening the Taiwan-U.S. partnership in the months and years ahead,” it said in a statement.

The United States has deepened its relationship with Taiwan during the Trump administration. Last year, it approved several large arms sales to Taiwan and increased engagements with the island.

Pompeo in a Jan. 7 tweet said: “We’ve stood by our friends in Taiwan. Over the past 3 years, the Trump Administration authorized more than $15 billion in arms sales to Taiwan. The Obama Administration? $14 billion dollars in sales over 8 years.”

American arms are vital to Taiwan in the face of escalating tension in the region. According to Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense, Chinese jets violated Taiwan’s air space about 380 times in 2020 and have continued to carry out such incursions at least 6 times in 2021.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Kelly Craft will also visit Taiwan for three days next week, becoming the third senior U.S. official to visit the island in less than six months.

Frank Fang contributed to this report."

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Chinese Regime Introduces New Commerce Rules In Retaliation Against US Sanctions
BY FRANK FANG
January 10, 2021
https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-regime-introduces-new-commerce-rules-in-retaliation-against-us-sanctions_3650633.html

"China’s Ministry of Commerce issued new rules on Jan. 9 in a bid to counter sanctions and restrictions imposed by foreign governments against Chinese companies and individuals.

According to an order on “unjustified” foreign legislation published on the Ministry’s website, it instructs Chinese entities to report within 30 days if they are affected by foreign laws that “improperly prohibit or restrict” Chinese citizens, companies, and organizations from conducting “normal economic, trade, and related activities with a third state or its citizens.”

The commerce ministry will then determine whether the legislation impacts China’s “national sovereignty, security, and development interests.”

If the foreign law is determined to be “unjustified,” China’s State Council can issue an injunction against “recognition, enforcement, and compliance” with the foreign laws.

In addition, Chinese individuals and entities that suffer “significant losses” for non-compliance with foreign laws are entitled to receiving “necessary support” from Chinese authorities, according to the order.

The order also states that Beijing may “take necessary counter-measures” in response to such foreign laws.

Chinese individuals or entities that either fail to “truthfully report” how they face foreign restrictions in doing business or comply with foreign laws despite the injunction could be fined, according to the new rules.

While the order did not name any specific foreign country, Chinese state media were quick to name the United States.

On Saturday, China’s hawkish state-run media Global Times published an article saying that the new order was Beijing’s “legal self-defense against notably the U.S. bullying of China.”

It added that U.S. sanctions on Chinese officials over the erosion of freedoms in Hong Kong and placing Chinese companies on a trade blacklist were Trump’s “bullying acts.”

On Sunday, the commerce ministry published the transcript of a media Q&A session involving an unnamed ministry official. That official said the new rules were introduced in response to an unnamed “country,” that promoted “unitarianism” and “prohibited economic exchanges between [Chinese] citizens with relevant countries.”

The Chinese regime has frequently accused the Trump administration of “unitarianism,” especially during the 2018–2019 trade war.

The U.S. Commerce Department did not respond to a request for comment by press time.

In August last year, the Trump administration blacklisted 11 Hong Kong and Chinese officials, among them Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam, for their roles in implementing Beijing’s draconian national security law, which punishes vaguely-defined crimes such as subversion and secession with a maximum penalty of life imprisonment.

Four months later, 14 more officials within China’s rubber-stamp legislature who were involved in implementing the law were also hit with U.S. sanctions.

Last week, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo warned that the U.S. might impose more sanctions on individuals and entities responsible for the recent arrests of 53 Hong Kong activists, former lawmakers, and politicians.

They were arrested for their involvement in a primary vote in July last year to determine which pro-democracy candidates would run in Legislative Council (LegCo) elections. That vote is now said to constitute “subverting state power” under the national security law.

In November last year, President Donald Trump issued an order (pdf) banning U.S. investments in Chinese companies designated by the Pentagon as having ties to the Chinese military, citing threats to the U.S. national security.

Some of the well-known Chinese companies blacklisted under the Trump administration included Chinese tech giant Huawei and 152 of its affiliates, semiconductor chipmaker SMIC, surveillance camera maker Hikvision, and drone manufacturer DJI.

Chen I-hsin, professor emeritus of the Department of Diplomacy and International Relations at Taiwan’s Tamkang University, told Taiwanese daily newspaper China Times that China’s new rules were a warning to President-elect Joe Biden that he should not follow Trump’s footsteps in sanctioning Chinese entities.

Chen said because the Chinese rules won’t have jurisdiction in the United States, their impact will be limited. But Beijing may resort to its usual tactics of sanctioning U.S. officials or denying Americans visas as retaliation."

[Richter]

'Coal to Gas' Campaign Is Freezing Chinese People | Historic Cold Wave Hit China (12:09)
In the last few days of 2020, China faced the most powerful cold wave in history. Within a day, the temperature in some parts of northern China fell more than 10-degrees Celsius.

But in such a cold situation, local governments in Shanxi Province have disregarded the lives of hundreds of thousands of people and confiscated their stoves, coal and firewood with large machines through violent law enforcement, in the so-called "three zeros" coal ban campaign.

The cold wave came less than 2 weeks after the coal ban on Australia, and has led to a significant increase in electricity consumption in most areas in China, and the authority has to implement "power restrictions" with rotational power supply at different times of a day, including in Shanghai, the country's busiest city.
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[onawah]

In Dark Journalist's talk with Dr. Joseph Farrell here:
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...various subjects are discussed, but about halfway through, they talk about Biden and his connection with the CCP, and also about advanced technology capable of weather manipulation, including the possibility that the floods in China have been caused by that, which certainly seems likely.
I don't know if anyone has been tracking HAARP signals showing up over China on weather maps, but that would be very interesting research!

[onawah]

Mass Rape, Sexual Abuse: Communist China’s Genocidal Tool to Eliminate Faith
BY JOCELYN NEO March 8, 2021
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mass-rape-sexual-abuse-communist-chinas-genocidal-tool-to-eliminate-faith_3716865.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-03-08-4

"Regardless of their ages, the CCP is persecuting spiritual believers of all faiths under the disguise of 're-educating' them.
BY JOCELYN NEO March 8, 2021 Updated: March 8, 2021biggersmaller Print
As the world is celebrating International Women’s Day, let’s not forget the horrifying abuses that mothers and sisters, and even grandmothers, are subjected to in the land of communist China.

Since the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) came to power in 1949, it has been employing unethical ways to persecute citizens and suppress spiritual groups. Recently, several reports have confirmed how the CCP is using sexual abuse as a tool for re-educating and transforming prisoners of faith, regardless of their age.

Rooted in atheism and materialism, the communist regime has been brutally suppressing Uyghur Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, and Falun Gong practitioners for years. Those who refuse to comply with the CCP’s orders are detained and taken to secretive “re-education camps” where they are subjected to unimaginable abuses, including gang rape and electrocution.

Rape has become a culture. It is gang rape and the Chinese police not only rape them but also electrocute them. They are subject to horrific torture.
— ANONYMOUS POLICEWOMAN FROM A CAMP IN XINJIANG, CHINA

Sexual Abuse of Uyghurs
To condemn the CCP’s grave human rights violations, the Trump-era administration said on Jan. 19, 2021, that the communist regime has committed “genocide” and “crimes against humanity” in its repression of the Uyghurs Muslims.

The then-U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a statement that the CCP has incarcerated over a million Uyghurs, subjecting them to forced labor, forced sterilizations, and torture.

“After careful examination of the available facts, I have determined that the PRC [People’s Republic of China], under the direction and control of the CCP, has committed genocide against the predominantly Muslim Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minority groups in Xinjiang,” Pompeo said. He added, “I believe this genocide is ongoing, and that we are witnessing the systematic attempt to destroy Uyghurs by the Chinese party-state.”

Two weeks later, the BBC published a detailed report on the systematic sexual torture happening in Xinjiang’s tightly-guarded re-education network. The report that is based on first-hand interviews of several Uyghurs who were previously detained in the internment camps revealed the torture and gang-rape horrors they witnessed or lived through.

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A watchtower on a high-security facility near what is believed to be a re-education camp where mostly Muslim ethnic minorities are detained, on the outskirts of Hotan, in China’s northwestern Xinjiang region, on May 31, 2019. (Greg Baker/AFP via Getty Images)

Tursunay Ziawudun, 42, who fled to the United States after escaping from Xinjiang following her release, recounted to the BBC the sexual abuses she underwent and witnessed while detained for nine months in China’s secretive camps in Xinjiang.

Ziawudun, who is married to a Kazakh and had returned to Xinjiang for work in 2016 after staying in Kazakhstan for five years, detailed how she was shocked with an electric baton and “gang-raped on three occasions,” the BBC reported.

“The woman took me to the room next to where the other girl had been taken in,” Ziawudun told the BBC. “They had an electric stick, I didn’t know what it was, and it was pushed inside my genital tract, torturing me with an electric shock.”

“They don’t only rape but also bite all over your body, you don’t know if they are human or animal,” she said. “They didn’t spare any part of the body, they bit everywhere leaving horrible marks. It was disgusting to look at. […] And it is not just one person who torments you, not just one predator. Each time they were two or three men.”

Talking to Fox News, Ziawudun said: “Any woman under 40 was raped. Every one in the camp experienced this … I was also beaten—I was kicked and stamped on—once so much on my private parts that I was bleeding, and I since had to have my ovaries removed.”

The BBC report said that even the elderly women detainees were not spared. Ziawudun recalled seeing an elderly Uyghur woman being humiliated.

“They stripped everything off the elderly lady, leaving her with just her underwear. She was so embarrassed that she tried to cover herself with her arms,” Ziawudun told BBC. “I cried so much watching the way they treated her. Her tears fell like rain.”

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Members of the Muslim Uyghur minority hold placards as they demonstrate in front of the Chinese consulate on Dec. 30, 2020, in Istanbul, to ask for news of their relatives and to express their concern after China announced the ratification of an extradition treaty with Turkey. (Bulent Kilic/AFP via Getty Images)

Ziawuden’s claims were backed by Qelbinur Sedik, an Uzbek woman from Xinjiang who was coerced to teach the Chinese language to the internment-camp detainees. Sedik told the BBC that a camp policewoman confirmed, after Sedik once secretly asked her, that sexual abuse is indeed happening in the camps.

“Yes, the rape has become a culture. It is gang rape and the Chinese police not only rape them but also electrocute them. They are subject to horrific torture,” Sedik recalled the policewoman’s words.

Gulzira Auelkhan, another Kazakh woman from Xinjiang who was forced to help the camp guards by stripping women, also confirmed to the BBC that gang rape is common in the camps.

“They forced me to take off those women’s clothes and to restrain their hands and leave the room,” Auelkhan said. “You can’t tell anyone what happened … It is designed to destroy everyone’s spirit.”

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Gulzira Auelkhan, who spent close to two years trapped in China, speaks during an AFP interview at the office of the Ata Jurt rights group in Almaty, Kazakhstan, on Jan. 21, 2019. She is pictured with her 5-year-old daughter. (Ruslan Pryanikov/AFP via Getty Images)

In the recent past, several previously detained Uyghurs had also described similar harrowing tales of torture and rape from the Xinjiang camps.

Gulbakhar Jalilova, an Uyghur and Kazakhstan national who was detained in 2017 for 15 months in an all-female camp, told The Epoch Times that rape happened on a daily basis in the camps. “Young girls are taken out and raped all night long. If you keep resisting, they will inject you with something and kill you,” Jalilova said.

In 2019, Sayragul Sauytbay of Kazakh descent, who was forced to teach the Chinese language in the camp, told Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper, that she once witnessed a female detainee being raped by policemen, “one after the other,” in front of 200 inmates. The incident left Sauytbay traumatized.

“While they were raping her they checked to see how we were reacting,” Sauytbay told Haaretz. “People who turned their head or closed their eyes, and those who looked angry or shocked, were taken away and we never saw them again. It was awful.

“I will never forget the feeling of helplessness, of not being able to help her. After that happened, it was hard for me to sleep at night.”

Sexual Abuse of Other Spiritual Believers
Apart from targeting Uyghur Muslims, the CCP also employs such horrendous torture methods on Falun Gong practitioners, Buddhists, and Christians.

Female adherents of Falun Gong are routinely subjected to sexual abuse and rape for not renouncing their faith. Falun Gong (or Falun Dafa) is a spiritual meditation discipline based on the principles of truthfulness, compassion, tolerance; it is freely practiced by over 100 million people worldwide but is being violently persecuted in China, and has been since July 1999.

Reenactment of sexual torture.

Detailing the torture and routine sexual abuse faced by Falun Gong practitioners, a two-part report (warning: article contains graphic content) has been compiled by Minghui.org, a U.S.-based website dedicated to documenting the persecution of Falun Gong.

At the notorious Masanjia Forced Labor Camp in Shenyang, Liaoning Province, 18 female practitioners were thrown into the men’s cells and the guards encouraged the inmates to rape the spiritual adherents, Minghui.org reported. The elderly or young, no one was exempted from these abuses.

In 2001, Zou Jin, 70, of Changsha City, Hunan Province, was gang-raped at the Changsha City First Detention Center and sentenced to nine years before she passed away. A 9-year-old girl, who was the orphan child of a Falun Gong practitioner, was gang-raped at the Changping Mental Hospital in Beijing in 2002. “Her screams and cries were heart-wrenching,” the Minghui.org report said.

The report said the authorities also forced pregnant practitioners to abort their unborn babies, beating and shocking them with electric batons which eventually lead to miscarriage.

The CCP hasn’t shown any leniency in abusing Buddhist nuns or Christians either.

The Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy has reported on the personal account of an anonymous Tibetan monk who was detained for four months in a re-education center, in Sog County, Tibet Autonomous Region, in 2017. The monk recounted seeing nuns being sexually abused after participating in military drills.

“Many nuns would lose consciousness during the [military] drills,” the monk wrote. “Sometimes officers would take unconscious nuns inside where I saw them … grope all over their body.”

“Who knows what else they did to the nuns?” the monk wrote.

Citing the sexual abuse account of a Chinese Christian, the editor-in-chief of the Bitter Winter magazine, Massimo Introvigne, wrote that Jiang Guizhi, a member of The Church of Almighty God in China, was raped by policemen and later died after the severe torture.

In 2019, the Association for the Defense of Human Rights and Religious Freedom (ADHRRF) reported a more detailed account of the torture experienced by Jiang. After being repeatedly asked by a cellmate, Jiang revealed that “the police had taken her to a private room in a hotel where she was interrogated, raped, and had objects stuffed inside her vagina,” the ADHRRF reported.

Arshdeep Sarao contributed to this report."

[onawah]

WOW! This Could Be The Trigger
40,019 views•Mar 9, 2021
4.8K
WeAreChange
680K subscribers

"WOW! This Could Be The Trigger

In this video, we cover the possibility of a major clash between China and the United States during Joe Biden's presidency. We also cover important developments relating to the sickness."GI51nDoMf8s

[onawah]

How the CCP Seeks to Control America
BY EPOCH TIMES STAFF February 10, 2021
https://www.theepochtimes.com/infographic-how-the-ccp-seeks-to-control-america_3692278.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=promotion&utm_campaign=EET0313&utm_term=1for4M-Premium&utm_content=6

"For decades, the Chinese Communist Party has worked to subvert the US from every angle—and has nearly succeeded."

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[onawah]

Victor Davis Hanson | The threat of China | CLIP
165 views•
Apr 6, 2021
John Anderson
136K subscribers

"Victor Davis Hanson is concerned that our ‘elites’ have been compromised with politicians, business leaders and academics appeasing rather than challenging China. He notes the historical analogy with Japan threatening the Asia-Pacific region in the run up to WWII."

View the full episode here: https://youtu.be/Zg6pgXXMJCk

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[onawah]

The world needs to wake up to this
Gordon Chang
31,995 views•Apr 6, 2021
3.5K
Newsmax TV
1.89M subscribers

"China is detaining religious minorities in secret camps, per report. Gordon Chang examines what can be done and how the Biden Administration can act - via Newsmax TV's 'John Bachman Now.' "
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[Rain Forest]

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People from Xinjiang talk about Torturing from the China Government.

[Rain Forest]

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Let us see what all kinds of people talk about the Real China .

[Rain Forest]

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I lived in Boise and Eagle for 10 years before moving to China in 2006, so now have been in China on and off (when not traveling in S.E Asia) for almost 14 years. I love it here and really get frustrated by all the negative media regarding the country. Anyways good to see people showing the positive side of life here. Recently I started recording vlogs in order to showcase a more positive perspective of the country and the wonderfully friendly people that is the real China. Thanks for sharing.

[Rain Forest]

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I agree..I love China and can’t wait to go back hopefully in 2021 ..love from USA

I totally agree with your ten reasons! China is a wonderful place, so far from western media's lies. I hope one day I'll be able to come back to this amazing Country.

Finally someone’s speaking the truth of China on western media. Well done ! 👍

[Rain Forest]

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Uyghurs under Torturing ---- from a Uyghur's youtube channel

[Rain Forest]

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The miserable life of Uyghurs under China Government's Torturing...1

Why people are in street not in concentration camp? Damn western media?????


if you dont watch this video as soon as possible , youtube will ban it because it broke their rummors...

[Rain Forest]

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What I saw in Xinjiang working as a Cotton Farmer

How they use forced labor to "pick cotton".......

[Rain Forest]

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Viral Xinjiang Video & American Alternate Reality Journalism


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Crazy days. Stick to your morals and have integrity. After I heard your speech I was really enlightened and helped me understand the situation better. I’m sure you did the same for so many others

[Rain Forest]

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The Xinjiang Genocide - an excerpt from the "Genocide" panel



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Thank you Mr. Dumbrill, You are one of the most wise and fair individual I ever know in recent years. Please keep your deep researchs to help us for cut off all misunderstandings between western audiances and chinese audiances. The world now need people like you. Respect.[COLOR="red"]

[onawah]

I've had some conversations over the past few days with a man who has owned and run a vacuum cleaner repair service in my area for over 20 years, a very reputable businessman and skilled repairman.
I was in the market for a new vacuum cleaner, and I knew he would have good recommendations.
He was able to accommodate me, but we also had quite an interesting exchange about China; specifically how China under the CCP has increasingly over the years flooded the market with very shoddy, often brand name "knock-off" merchandise, and how they've bought the brand names of once reputable companies and replaced their good products with bad.
He said that it's become extremely difficult to find a good vacuum cleaner these days, that they simply don't make replacement parts for most of them any longer, so once something goes wrong, they have to be relegated to land fills.
After having seen much evidence from various travelers through China of the incredibly flimsy buildings they construct there (not to mention dams!), this gave me more food for thought as to why such impractical practices seem to be endemic in China.
I wonder if all the pre-Communist centuries of Buddhist thinking, combined with the terrible problems with flooding that China has always experienced have combined to create a negative, hopelessly resigned attitude surrounding the Buddhist concept of Impermanence.
Add to that the apparent lack of any moral compass in the CCP, it's no wonder their insane agendas are spreading like a cancer all over the planet, perhaps even more so than the other branches of the NWO.
But it was very nice to connect with someone so impassioned about such things, and to discover he is also aware of the "social credit system" and other such NWO agendas.

[Tintin]

Hi there Rain Forest and an enormously warm welcome to the forum, and thanks too for your contributions :flower:


For me, the main bones of contention running through the various narratives aren't really a battle or dispute between the different peoples; it's an ideological clash.

Perspectives from ones own culture compared to another's are certain to differ widely; it's also what keeps the world an endlessly fascinating and rich place to be.

There's actually a lot more that we all have in common than, prima facie, may seem to be the case.

In the 'west' we've seen endless oppression of peoples around the planet by occupation and bullying through invasion and bombardment, often in serious breach of international law and through deceptive propaganda in the media, which benefits, in the long run, only those who've financed and created those enemies (sic). More people, if not nearly all for example in the UK are absolutely opposed to that kind of activity; it's only the political leaders and whoever they may be lobbying for that stand to gain materially from encouraging this - it's a shocker.

And we need to be very wary of propaganda and be able to see it for what it is when it presents itself. The BBC here are culpable; other various better known alphabet agency fronts (CNN etc) the same. The CCP and its media arm, the same.

The psychological manipulation of communities is actually a global problem.

What we call the 'west' represented by the UK - a Common Law (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/common-law.asp#:~:text=The%20Bottom%20Line-,What%20Is%20Common%20Law%3F,or%20written%20rules%20of%20law.) jurisdiction -and USA have built their societies around those Common Law principles and a recognition of the sovereignty of the individual that can hold those in power accountable for any misdeeds. Or at least, are able to in principle.(Many European states do still operate more along the lines of the Napoleonic Code (http://guidetocostaricarealestate.com/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/chapter-11-legal-matters/napoleonic-code-v.-common-law#:~:text=Common%20Law,-The%20main%20theoretical&text=Common%20Law%20judges%20base%20their,legal%20code%2C%20and%20that's%20all.)).

But what we've seen starting to undermine centuries' of practice in the west, amongst its peoples, is an ideology which has an appalling track record for suppressing peoples' freedoms, fundamental inalienable and universal rights and that is the totalitarian mantra of Communism and its various iterations.

Visions of people being imprisoned in 'education camps (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=ICIJ_China_Cables_release_%28December%202019%29)' - CCP propaganda terminology - recalls the horrors of National Socialism in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s where their propaganda labelled these as 'labour camps'.

It's bonafide images of this activity taking place in a modern day superpower that serves as a warning - this should never happen again. This will inform much of the opinion shared here particularly on the forum where we welcome all people regardless of their ethnicity into our 'family' where they should feel safe and where no racial prejudice exists, or is tolerated.

Sadly, those in power positions in the world today and arguably now for quite some time, if they are people and not other entities even, operate more as eugenicists be they from the 'east' or the 'west' and any real war is a battle against that kind of ideology.

These are our common enemy, not each other. It's the people who often get conflated with the ideology.

We are all around the world being played, big time.

My own background, which I've shared very little about here, saw me incarnate in a Chinese port some 50 years or so ago, was delivered by a Chinese person, was occasionally taken care of by a kind Chinese woman who remains a very close family friend to this day, have a brother who is half-Chinese who I love dearly, and lived among that Chinese culture for some 6 years of my early life. Personally I have a great affinity with Chinese people, but I do not share any affinity with Communism or any iteration of it.

---------------------------------------

[Popcorn moment]

Everyone needs to watch this: I cannot recommend highly enough Adam Curtis' latest most recent production Can't Get You Out of My Head (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Can%27t_Get_You_Out_of_My_Head_%282021_documentary_series%29_dir_Adam_Curtis) where any western person in particular would be well advised to acquaint themselves with the coverage he gives to China in this, which is historically accurate, fair, and educational.

The whole 6 part series is a must watch. Guess I've emphasised that enough, right :)

One comes away from watching that with the same sense I've tried to outline above: that the peoples in their own individual ways all around the world do really strive for the very same positive outcomes for all whilst at the same time should be together fighting a bigger enemy. The enemy in this case being the adoption and practice of inhumane ideas.

A battle against -isms.

That's analogous to what we do here on the forum :flower:

[Rain Forest]

Hi there Rain Forest and an enormously warm welcome to the forum, and thanks too for your contributions :flower:


For me, the main bones of contention running through the various narratives aren't really a battle or dispute between the different peoples; it's an ideological clash.

Perspectives from ones own culture compared to another's are certain to differ widely; it's also what keeps the world an endlessly fascinating and rich place to be.

There's actually a lot more that we all have in common than, prima facie, may seem to be the case.

In the 'west' we've seen endless oppression of peoples around the planet by occupation and bullying through invasion and bombardment, often in serious breach of international law and through deceptive propaganda in the media, which benefits, in the long run, only those who've financed and created those enemies (sic). More people, if not nearly all for example in the UK are absolutely opposed to that kind of activity; it's only the political leaders and whoever they may be lobbying for that stand to gain materially from encouraging this - it's a shocker.

And we need to be very wary of propaganda and be able to see it for what it is when it presents itself. The BBC here are culpable; other various better known alphabet agency fronts (CNN etc) the same. The CCP and its media arm, the same.

The psychological manipulation of communities is actually a global problem.

What we call the 'west' represented by the UK - a Common Law (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/common-law.asp#:~:text=The%20Bottom%20Line-,What%20Is%20Common%20Law%3F,or%20written%20rules%20of%20law.) jurisdiction -and USA have built their societies around those Common Law principles and a recognition of the sovereignty of the individual that can hold those in power accountable for any misdeeds. Or at least, are able to in principle.(Many European states do still operate more along the lines of the Napoleonic Code (http://guidetocostaricarealestate.com/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/chapter-11-legal-matters/napoleonic-code-v.-common-law#:~:text=Common%20Law,-The%20main%20theoretical&text=Common%20Law%20judges%20base%20their,legal%20code%2C%20and%20that's%20all.)).

But what we've seen starting to undermine centuries' of practice in the west, amongst its peoples, is an ideology which has an appalling track record for suppressing peoples' freedoms, fundamental inalienable and universal rights and that is the totalitarian mantra of Communism and its various iterations.

Visions of people being imprisoned in 'education camps (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=ICIJ_China_Cables_release_%28December%202019%29)' - CCP propaganda terminology - recalls the horrors of National Socialism in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s where their propaganda labelled these as 'labour camps'.

It's bonafide images of this activity taking place in a modern day superpower that serves as a warning - this should never happen again. This will inform much of the opinion shared here particularly on the forum where we welcome all people regardless of their ethnicity into our 'family' where they should feel safe and where no racial prejudice exists, or is tolerated.

Sadly, those in power positions in the world today and arguably now for quite some time, if they are people and not other entities even, operate more as eugenicists be they from the 'east' or the 'west' and any real war is a battle against that kind of ideology.

These are our common enemy, not each other. It's the people who often get conflated with the ideology.

We are all around the world being played, big time.

My own background, which I've shared very little about here, saw me incarnate in a Chinese port some 50 years or so ago, was delivered by a Chinese person, was occasionally taken care of by a kind Chinese woman who remains a very close family friend to this day, have a brother who is half-Chinese who I love dearly, and lived among that Chinese culture for some 6 years of my early life. Personally I have a great affinity with Chinese people, but I do not share any affinity with Communism or any iteration of it.

---------------------------------------

[Popcorn moment]

Everyone needs to watch this: I cannot recommend highly enough Adam Curtis' latest most recent production Can't Get You Out of My Head (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Can%27t_Get_You_Out_of_My_Head_%282021_documentary_series%29_dir_Adam_Curtis) where any western person in particular would be well advised to acquaint themselves with the coverage he gives to China in this, which is historically accurate, fair, and educational.

The whole 6 part series is a must watch. Guess I've emphasised that enough, right :)

One comes away from watching that with the same sense I've tried to outline above: that the peoples in their own individual ways all around the world do really strive for the very same positive outcomes for all whilst at the same time should be together fighting a bigger enemy. The enemy in this case being the adoption and practice of inhumane ideas.

A battle against -isms.

That's analogous to what we do here on the forum :flower:

Hi ,thank you for the welcoming words. :cocktail:
I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China? Well ,if that is the case , now that you can not go to China now, to finish watching those videos with patience and then talk responsibly about China will be the only and better choice. )

I often see people comment on china very negatively ...... they demonize china like a monster... cannot wait to turn China into a clown.....What is interesting in those people is that they have have never ever been to China ,not mention to live there , or know any truth there.......

What is communism in your opinion? I don't think China is communism country at all.
Why? Becuase it is not. The communism party is just a name. It is like Labour party.....Did the Labour party make people work endlessly without any rest? (Because it is called labour party!) The labour Party must have been using their own people as labour and slaves, it must have been squeezing and exploiting the people like crazy ,making use of people's labour to the last breath,turning all the people there in the country into slaves working 24/7 , non-stop...day and night.......

Is that the fact? Doesn't that sound absurd?

I am not interested in the tricks of name. Let's say, a person's name can be "picking-cotton"(peopl can have all kinds of name as they want ,right?) ,this person doesn't need pick cotton in real life, he might work as a BBC journalist or do cleaning in BBC studio.

I am not interested in the name or defination of capitalism or communism at all... because different people have different understanding ,defination about the names and concepts.

What i really care and have interest in is how the peopl live there...... Are the majority of the people in the country satisfied with their life, and government? (Pay attention : not 100%, in any country it is not possible.In any country, there are peopl who are not satisfied with this or that.it is nothing abnormal.)

Look around, when in democratic countries(where always one after another new strain shows up "suddenly‘ ), a lot of people get infected and die from coronavius every day , and in so-called communism country, a demonized(24/7,day and night,all the year roung :) ) country the coronavirus is put under control....... The name does not really matter here , you know what i mean. PEOPLE'S LIVES MATTER.

Democracy doesn't mean letting the coronavirus spread and telling people no need to wear mask when they are very aware of the fact that China successfully put the coronavirus under control by letting all the people wear mask (as soon as they knew it is respiratory infectious disease) and stay in quarantine for over 2 months. Why they didn't tell their own people(who is obsessed with their government's democracy education and propaganda.) the truth.


Why? That is what the democracy means? (another funny thing is people in the democractic countries stay home in quarantine,suffer from the covid-19......and at the same time enjoy their mainstream media feeding them with all kinds of picking-cotton business about china and miserable life of chinese people ..... while life goes back to normal in China....) I wonder why they don't use this kind of time and energy to question their own governments why they didn't tell them the truth: The masks do work ,and let them wear mask from the start??


Relax, i am not interested in communism at all, my thoughts are not restricted by the defination or all kinds of man-made expaination about it....... either.

What i really care is how people live in this country , are their lives valued by their government??? we are talking about not "the past", not "the future', but "now."


How can people judge that a country is not good ,the peole don't live happily......just because of their notorius（they themselvs know this, too.） media tell them？

Let us see in which country ,the death rate is the highest up to now in the world?

The place with the most Democracy??? WOW , How come? It is unbelievable!

Relax, i am really not interested in any tricks of name or confusing conceptss. Let us put the so-called democracy or so-called communism aside, I already passed the stage when it was so easy for me to believe anybody just because they have clever tongues.

If the people's 3 basic needs (accommodation,medical services, Education)are not guaranteed with affordable/low cost(or for free), it is not good system for me ,no matter what its name is, communism or democracy.

Did i make it clear? :)

They are trying to make 90% of us disappear without us realizing that, so they made all kinds of concepts which distract us, divide us, make us stand on the opposite side of each other..... Majority of us have been led to the way they designed for us very obediently ,cooperatively ,actively......provoke hatred further tirelessly by making roumours fly around ......This way the result will be: all disappear together.... While you think you are more smart by trying your best to demonize, fight fearlessly and bravely, to take your imaginary enemy down...

Aren't we cattle or donkeys? Whatelse can we be when we behave like that?

[Rain Forest]

NO ONE KICKS A DEAD DOG. ------That is all the reason why they have been trying to demonize China and Chinese people.

I suggest a book for people who can not go to China and wonder comment on China, the authour was from UK. He has all my respect for his honesty and integrity. The book's name is 《The Genius of China》.

If you read that book ,you know the mordern history of the past 300 years, you still talk negatively about china, then refer to the 1st sentence: you must know deep inside that you are not kicking a dead dog.

Chinese people are not naive, they are just very-kindhearted. This can not be changed,because it is in their blood.

For some people , they can see other people's kindness,they cherish it and do something in return.
For some people, it is a different story. Because they always take other people's kindness as being naive,as something they can make use of and then throw other people's kindness with their owner into the hell without hesitation after making full use of them.

Your eyes is the mirror of Your heart and mind.

[Mashika]

Hi there Rain Forest and an enormously warm welcome to the forum, and thanks too for your contributions :flower:


For me, the main bones of contention running through the various narratives aren't really a battle or dispute between the different peoples; it's an ideological clash.

Perspectives from ones own culture compared to another's are certain to differ widely; it's also what keeps the world an endlessly fascinating and rich place to be.

There's actually a lot more that we all have in common than, prima facie, may seem to be the case.

In the 'west' we've seen endless oppression of peoples around the planet by occupation and bullying through invasion and bombardment, often in serious breach of international law and through deceptive propaganda in the media, which benefits, in the long run, only those who've financed and created those enemies (sic). More people, if not nearly all for example in the UK are absolutely opposed to that kind of activity; it's only the political leaders and whoever they may be lobbying for that stand to gain materially from encouraging this - it's a shocker.

And we need to be very wary of propaganda and be able to see it for what it is when it presents itself. The BBC here are culpable; other various better known alphabet agency fronts (CNN etc) the same. The CCP and its media arm, the same.

The psychological manipulation of communities is actually a global problem.

What we call the 'west' represented by the UK - a Common Law (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/common-law.asp#:~:text=The%20Bottom%20Line-,What%20Is%20Common%20Law%3F,or%20written%20rules%20of%20law.) jurisdiction -and USA have built their societies around those Common Law principles and a recognition of the sovereignty of the individual that can hold those in power accountable for any misdeeds. Or at least, are able to in principle.(Many European states do still operate more along the lines of the Napoleonic Code (http://guidetocostaricarealestate.com/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/chapter-11-legal-matters/napoleonic-code-v.-common-law#:~:text=Common%20Law,-The%20main%20theoretical&text=Common%20Law%20judges%20base%20their,legal%20code%2C%20and%20that's%20all.)).

But what we've seen starting to undermine centuries' of practice in the west, amongst its peoples, is an ideology which has an appalling track record for suppressing peoples' freedoms, fundamental inalienable and universal rights and that is the totalitarian mantra of Communism and its various iterations.

Visions of people being imprisoned in 'education camps (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=ICIJ_China_Cables_release_%28December%202019%29)' - CCP propaganda terminology - recalls the horrors of National Socialism in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s where their propaganda labelled these as 'labour camps'.

It's bonafide images of this activity taking place in a modern day superpower that serves as a warning - this should never happen again. This will inform much of the opinion shared here particularly on the forum where we welcome all people regardless of their ethnicity into our 'family' where they should feel safe and where no racial prejudice exists, or is tolerated.

Sadly, those in power positions in the world today and arguably now for quite some time, if they are people and not other entities even, operate more as eugenicists be they from the 'east' or the 'west' and any real war is a battle against that kind of ideology.

These are our common enemy, not each other. It's the people who often get conflated with the ideology.

We are all around the world being played, big time.

My own background, which I've shared very little about here, saw me incarnate in a Chinese port some 50 years or so ago, was delivered by a Chinese person, was occasionally taken care of by a kind Chinese woman who remains a very close family friend to this day, have a brother who is half-Chinese who I love dearly, and lived among that Chinese culture for some 6 years of my early life. Personally I have a great affinity with Chinese people, but I do not share any affinity with Communism or any iteration of it.

---------------------------------------

[Popcorn moment]

Everyone needs to watch this: I cannot recommend highly enough Adam Curtis' latest most recent production Can't Get You Out of My Head (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Can%27t_Get_You_Out_of_My_Head_%282021_documentary_series%29_dir_Adam_Curtis) where any western person in particular would be well advised to acquaint themselves with the coverage he gives to China in this, which is historically accurate, fair, and educational.

The whole 6 part series is a must watch. Guess I've emphasised that enough, right :)

One comes away from watching that with the same sense I've tried to outline above: that the peoples in their own individual ways all around the world do really strive for the very same positive outcomes for all whilst at the same time should be together fighting a bigger enemy. The enemy in this case being the adoption and practice of inhumane ideas.

A battle against -isms.

That's analogous to what we do here on the forum :flower:

Hi ,thank you for the welcoming words. :cocktail:
I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China? Well ,if that is the case , now that you can not go to China now, to finish watching those videos with patience and then talk responsibly about China will be the only and better choice. )

I often see people comment on china very negatively ...... they demonize china like a monster... cannot wait to turn China into a clown.....What is interesting in those people is that they have have never ever been to China ,not mention to live there , or know any truth there.......

What is communism in your opinion? I don't think China is communism country at all.
Why? Becuase it is not. The communism party is just a name. It is like Labour party.....Did the Labour party make people work endlessly without any rest? (Because it is called labour party!) The labour Party must have been using their own people as labour and slaves, it must have been squeezing and exploiting the people like crazy ,making use of people's labour to the last breath,turning all the people there in the country into slaves working 24/7 , non-stop...day and night.......

Is that the fact? Doesn't that sound absurd?

I am not interested in the tricks of name. Let's say, a person's name can be "picking-cotton"(peopl can have all kinds of name as they want ,right?) ,this person doesn't need pick cotton in real life, he might work as a BBC journalist or do cleaning in BBC studio.

I am not interested in the name or defination of capitalism or communism at all... because different people have different understanding ,defination about the names and concepts.

What i really care and have interest in is how the peopl live there...... Are the majority of the people in the country satisfied with their life, and government? (Pay attention : not 100%, in any country it is not possible.In any country, there are peopl who are not satisfied with this or that.it is nothing abnormal.)

Look around, when in democratic countries(where always one after another new strain shows up "suddenly‘ ), a lot of people get infected and die from coronavius every day , and in so-called communism country, a demonized(24/7,day and night,all the year roung :) ) country the coronavirus is put under control....... The name does not really matter here , you know what i mean. PEOPLE'S LIVES MATTER.

Democracy doesn't mean letting the coronavirus spread and telling people no need to wear mask when they are very aware of the fact that China successfully put the coronavirus under control by letting all the people wear mask (as soon as they knew it is respiratory infectious disease) and stay in quarantine for over 2 months. Why they didn't tell their own people(who is obsessed with their government's democracy education and propaganda.) the truth.


Why? That is what the democracy means? (another funny thing is people in the democractic countries stay home in quarantine,suffer from the covid-19......and at the same time enjoy their mainstream media feeding them with all kinds of picking-cotton business about china and miserable life of chinese people ..... while life goes back to normal in China....) I wonder why they don't use this kind of time and energy to question their own governments why they didn't tell them the truth: The masks do work ,and let them wear mask from the start??


Relax, i am not interested in communism at all, my thoughts are not restricted by the defination or all kinds of man-made expaination about it....... either.

What i really care is how people live in this country , are their lives valued by their government??? we are talking about not "the past", not "the future', but "now."


How can people judge that a country is not good ,the peole don't live happily......just because of their notorius（they themselvs know this, too.） media tell them？

Let us see in which country ,the death rate is the highest up to now in the world?

The place with the most Democracy??? WOW , How come? It is unbelievable!

Relax, i am really not interested in any tricks of name or confusing conceptss. Let us put the so-called democracy or so-called communism aside, I already passed the stage when it was so easy for me to believe anybody just because they have clever tongues.

If the people's 3 basic needs (accommodation,medical services, Education)are not guaranteed with affordable/low cost(or for free), it is not good system for me ,no matter what its name is, communism or democracy.

Did i make it clear? :)

They are trying to make 90% of us disappear without us realizing that, so they made all kinds of concepts which distract us, divide us, make us stand on the opposite side of each other..... Majority of us have been led to the way they designed for us very obediently ,cooperatively ,actively......provoke hatred further tirelessly by making roumours fly around ......This way the result will be: all disappear together.... While you think you are more smart by trying your best to demonize, fight fearlessly and bravely, to take your imaginary enemy down...

Aren't we cattle or donkeys? Whatelse can we be when we behave like that?

Why the hostility?

It does seem that you come to this site, and assume people here are not aware of the things you speak? The people here joined for one good reason, because they knew these things as well, not because they are part of that group of people who is unaware they are cattle and used as

All you said, it's obvious, nothing we did not already knew, that's why we are here in the first place, see ? I feel like you should spend a bit more time first learning what the people here write or think, instead of jumping directly to lecture them about all the things 'you think they don't know' just because you have found you can see or are aware of them

As a principle to always follow, we should always keep in mind this: "If i can see it, chances are other people can too, i'm not so unique that i'm above every else's awareness levels"

You don't need to be on the defensive so much here at Avalon, instead, if i may suggest, just try talking to people and share without trying to lecture or enforce. Otherwise you may end up doing the same things you claim the westerners are doing, or while trying to tell them they are wrong, ending up confirming authoritarian views in some way

Anyway, hope you have a good time at Avalon

:cocktail::cocktail:

[Rain Forest]

Hi there Rain Forest and an enormously warm welcome to the forum, and thanks too for your contributions :flower:


For me, the main bones of contention running through the various narratives aren't really a battle or dispute between the different peoples; it's an ideological clash.

Perspectives from ones own culture compared to another's are certain to differ widely; it's also what keeps the world an endlessly fascinating and rich place to be.

There's actually a lot more that we all have in common than, prima facie, may seem to be the case.

In the 'west' we've seen endless oppression of peoples around the planet by occupation and bullying through invasion and bombardment, often in serious breach of international law and through deceptive propaganda in the media, which benefits, in the long run, only those who've financed and created those enemies (sic). More people, if not nearly all for example in the UK are absolutely opposed to that kind of activity; it's only the political leaders and whoever they may be lobbying for that stand to gain materially from encouraging this - it's a shocker.

And we need to be very wary of propaganda and be able to see it for what it is when it presents itself. The BBC here are culpable; other various better known alphabet agency fronts (CNN etc) the same. The CCP and its media arm, the same.

The psychological manipulation of communities is actually a global problem.

What we call the 'west' represented by the UK - a Common Law (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/common-law.asp#:~:text=The%20Bottom%20Line-,What%20Is%20Common%20Law%3F,or%20written%20rules%20of%20law.) jurisdiction -and USA have built their societies around those Common Law principles and a recognition of the sovereignty of the individual that can hold those in power accountable for any misdeeds. Or at least, are able to in principle.(Many European states do still operate more along the lines of the Napoleonic Code (http://guidetocostaricarealestate.com/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/chapter-11-legal-matters/napoleonic-code-v.-common-law#:~:text=Common%20Law,-The%20main%20theoretical&text=Common%20Law%20judges%20base%20their,legal%20code%2C%20and%20that's%20all.)).

But what we've seen starting to undermine centuries' of practice in the west, amongst its peoples, is an ideology which has an appalling track record for suppressing peoples' freedoms, fundamental inalienable and universal rights and that is the totalitarian mantra of Communism and its various iterations.

Visions of people being imprisoned in 'education camps (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=ICIJ_China_Cables_release_%28December%202019%29)' - CCP propaganda terminology - recalls the horrors of National Socialism in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s where their propaganda labelled these as 'labour camps'.

It's bonafide images of this activity taking place in a modern day superpower that serves as a warning - this should never happen again. This will inform much of the opinion shared here particularly on the forum where we welcome all people regardless of their ethnicity into our 'family' where they should feel safe and where no racial prejudice exists, or is tolerated.

Sadly, those in power positions in the world today and arguably now for quite some time, if they are people and not other entities even, operate more as eugenicists be they from the 'east' or the 'west' and any real war is a battle against that kind of ideology.

These are our common enemy, not each other. It's the people who often get conflated with the ideology.

We are all around the world being played, big time.

My own background, which I've shared very little about here, saw me incarnate in a Chinese port some 50 years or so ago, was delivered by a Chinese person, was occasionally taken care of by a kind Chinese woman who remains a very close family friend to this day, have a brother who is half-Chinese who I love dearly, and lived among that Chinese culture for some 6 years of my early life. Personally I have a great affinity with Chinese people, but I do not share any affinity with Communism or any iteration of it.

---------------------------------------

[Popcorn moment]

Everyone needs to watch this: I cannot recommend highly enough Adam Curtis' latest most recent production Can't Get You Out of My Head (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Can%27t_Get_You_Out_of_My_Head_%282021_documentary_series%29_dir_Adam_Curtis) where any western person in particular would be well advised to acquaint themselves with the coverage he gives to China in this, which is historically accurate, fair, and educational.

The whole 6 part series is a must watch. Guess I've emphasised that enough, right :)

One comes away from watching that with the same sense I've tried to outline above: that the peoples in their own individual ways all around the world do really strive for the very same positive outcomes for all whilst at the same time should be together fighting a bigger enemy. The enemy in this case being the adoption and practice of inhumane ideas.

A battle against -isms.

That's analogous to what we do here on the forum :flower:

Hi ,thank you for the welcoming words. :cocktail:
I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China? Well ,if that is the case , now that you can not go to China now, to finish watching those videos with patience and then talk responsibly about China will be the only and better choice. )

I often see people comment on china very negatively ...... they demonize china like a monster... cannot wait to turn China into a clown.....What is interesting in those people is that they have have never ever been to China ,not mention to live there , or know any truth there.......

What is communism in your opinion? I don't think China is communism country at all.
Why? Becuase it is not. The communism party is just a name. It is like Labour party.....Did the Labour party make people work endlessly without any rest? (Because it is called labour party!) The labour Party must have been using their own people as labour and slaves, it must have been squeezing and exploiting the people like crazy ,making use of people's labour to the last breath,turning all the people there in the country into slaves working 24/7 , non-stop...day and night.......

Is that the fact? Doesn't that sound absurd?

I am not interested in the tricks of name. Let's say, a person's name can be "picking-cotton"(peopl can have all kinds of name as they want ,right?) ,this person doesn't need pick cotton in real life, he might work as a BBC journalist or do cleaning in BBC studio.

I am not interested in the name or defination of capitalism or communism at all... because different people have different understanding ,defination about the names and concepts.

What i really care and have interest in is how the peopl live there...... Are the majority of the people in the country satisfied with their life, and government? (Pay attention : not 100%, in any country it is not possible.In any country, there are peopl who are not satisfied with this or that.it is nothing abnormal.)

Look around, when in democratic countries(where always one after another new strain shows up "suddenly‘ ), a lot of people get infected and die from coronavius every day , and in so-called communism country, a demonized(24/7,day and night,all the year roung :) ) country the coronavirus is put under control....... The name does not really matter here , you know what i mean. PEOPLE'S LIVES MATTER.

Democracy doesn't mean letting the coronavirus spread and telling people no need to wear mask when they are very aware of the fact that China successfully put the coronavirus under control by letting all the people wear mask (as soon as they knew it is respiratory infectious disease) and stay in quarantine for over 2 months. Why they didn't tell their own people(who is obsessed with their government's democracy education and propaganda.) the truth.


Why? That is what the democracy means? (another funny thing is people in the democractic countries stay home in quarantine,suffer from the covid-19......and at the same time enjoy their mainstream media feeding them with all kinds of picking-cotton business about china and miserable life of chinese people ..... while life goes back to normal in China....) I wonder why they don't use this kind of time and energy to question their own governments why they didn't tell them the truth: The masks do work ,and let them wear mask from the start??


Relax, i am not interested in communism at all, my thoughts are not restricted by the defination or all kinds of man-made expaination about it....... either.

What i really care is how people live in this country , are their lives valued by their government??? we are talking about not "the past", not "the future', but "now."


How can people judge that a country is not good ,the peole don't live happily......just because of their notorius（they themselvs know this, too.） media tell them？

Let us see in which country ,the death rate is the highest up to now in the world?

The place with the most Democracy??? WOW , How come? It is unbelievable!

Relax, i am really not interested in any tricks of name or confusing conceptss. Let us put the so-called democracy or so-called communism aside, I already passed the stage when it was so easy for me to believe anybody just because they have clever tongues.

If the people's 3 basic needs (accommodation,medical services, Education)are not guaranteed with affordable/low cost(or for free), it is not good system for me ,no matter what its name is, communism or democracy.

Did i make it clear? :)

They are trying to make 90% of us disappear without us realizing that, so they made all kinds of concepts which distract us, divide us, make us stand on the opposite side of each other..... Majority of us have been led to the way they designed for us very obediently ,cooperatively ,actively......provoke hatred further tirelessly by making roumours fly around ......This way the result will be: all disappear together.... While you think you are more smart by trying your best to demonize, fight fearlessly and bravely, to take your imaginary enemy down...

Aren't we cattle or donkeys? Whatelse can we be when we behave like that?

Why the hostility?

It does seem that you come to this site, and assume people here are not aware of the things you speak? The people here joined for one good reason, because they knew these things as well, not because they are part of that group of people who is unaware they are cattle and used as

All you said, it's obvious, nothing we did not already knew, that's why we are here in the first place, see ? I feel like you should spend a bit more time first learning what the people here write or think, instead of jumping directly to lecture them about all the things 'you think they don't know' just because you have found you can see or are aware of them

As a principle to always follow, we should always keep in mind this: "If i can see it, chances are other people can too, i'm not so unique that i'm above every else's awareness levels"

You don't need to be on the defensive so much here at Avalon, instead, if i may suggest, just try talking to people and share without trying to lecture or enforce. Otherwise you may end up doing the same things you claim the westerners are doing, or while trying to tell them they are wrong, ending up confirming authoritarian views in some way

Anyway, hope you have a good time at Avalon

:cocktail::cocktail:

Hi, Thank you for the suggestion. It does make some sense and sound reasonable.

Sorry if the information i shared make you feel offended.It must be misunderstanding. I was just responding to the fake news demonizing China spread here. I feel pretty surprised to see that happening here , because of the reason you stated: pepople who have been here are very alert, smart,should already have known the Truth(which should include the videos and messages i posted here.I suppose.)

That is why i felt it necessary to share the information i shared here. You already knew the truth, you don't help demonize China,no need to feel offended for no reason.

I am not defensive, i was just stating the truth. Nobody offended me,what should i defend?

Don't think too much.

Let us learn and grow together with this great forum. :cocktail::cocktail: Cheers!

This is a forum to hear different voices, instead of only one. Otherwise it would be a dictatorship forum. Right？

I don't have much time to do as the mainstream media do, because their Bull**** is too much. Haha. Believe me, there are are way more stuff to learn on this forum than what i want to share.

[Mashika]

Hi there Rain Forest and an enormously warm welcome to the forum, and thanks too for your contributions :flower:


For me, the main bones of contention running through the various narratives aren't really a battle or dispute between the different peoples; it's an ideological clash.

Perspectives from ones own culture compared to another's are certain to differ widely; it's also what keeps the world an endlessly fascinating and rich place to be.

There's actually a lot more that we all have in common than, prima facie, may seem to be the case.

In the 'west' we've seen endless oppression of peoples around the planet by occupation and bullying through invasion and bombardment, often in serious breach of international law and through deceptive propaganda in the media, which benefits, in the long run, only those who've financed and created those enemies (sic). More people, if not nearly all for example in the UK are absolutely opposed to that kind of activity; it's only the political leaders and whoever they may be lobbying for that stand to gain materially from encouraging this - it's a shocker.

And we need to be very wary of propaganda and be able to see it for what it is when it presents itself. The BBC here are culpable; other various better known alphabet agency fronts (CNN etc) the same. The CCP and its media arm, the same.

The psychological manipulation of communities is actually a global problem.

What we call the 'west' represented by the UK - a Common Law (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/common-law.asp#:~:text=The%20Bottom%20Line-,What%20Is%20Common%20Law%3F,or%20written%20rules%20of%20law.) jurisdiction -and USA have built their societies around those Common Law principles and a recognition of the sovereignty of the individual that can hold those in power accountable for any misdeeds. Or at least, are able to in principle.(Many European states do still operate more along the lines of the Napoleonic Code (http://guidetocostaricarealestate.com/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/chapter-11-legal-matters/napoleonic-code-v.-common-law#:~:text=Common%20Law,-The%20main%20theoretical&text=Common%20Law%20judges%20base%20their,legal%20code%2C%20and%20that's%20all.)).

But what we've seen starting to undermine centuries' of practice in the west, amongst its peoples, is an ideology which has an appalling track record for suppressing peoples' freedoms, fundamental inalienable and universal rights and that is the totalitarian mantra of Communism and its various iterations.

Visions of people being imprisoned in 'education camps (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=ICIJ_China_Cables_release_%28December%202019%29)' - CCP propaganda terminology - recalls the horrors of National Socialism in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s where their propaganda labelled these as 'labour camps'.

It's bonafide images of this activity taking place in a modern day superpower that serves as a warning - this should never happen again. This will inform much of the opinion shared here particularly on the forum where we welcome all people regardless of their ethnicity into our 'family' where they should feel safe and where no racial prejudice exists, or is tolerated.

Sadly, those in power positions in the world today and arguably now for quite some time, if they are people and not other entities even, operate more as eugenicists be they from the 'east' or the 'west' and any real war is a battle against that kind of ideology.

These are our common enemy, not each other. It's the people who often get conflated with the ideology.

We are all around the world being played, big time.

My own background, which I've shared very little about here, saw me incarnate in a Chinese port some 50 years or so ago, was delivered by a Chinese person, was occasionally taken care of by a kind Chinese woman who remains a very close family friend to this day, have a brother who is half-Chinese who I love dearly, and lived among that Chinese culture for some 6 years of my early life. Personally I have a great affinity with Chinese people, but I do not share any affinity with Communism or any iteration of it.

---------------------------------------

[Popcorn moment]

Everyone needs to watch this: I cannot recommend highly enough Adam Curtis' latest most recent production Can't Get You Out of My Head (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Can%27t_Get_You_Out_of_My_Head_%282021_documentary_series%29_dir_Adam_Curtis) where any western person in particular would be well advised to acquaint themselves with the coverage he gives to China in this, which is historically accurate, fair, and educational.

The whole 6 part series is a must watch. Guess I've emphasised that enough, right :)

One comes away from watching that with the same sense I've tried to outline above: that the peoples in their own individual ways all around the world do really strive for the very same positive outcomes for all whilst at the same time should be together fighting a bigger enemy. The enemy in this case being the adoption and practice of inhumane ideas.

A battle against -isms.

That's analogous to what we do here on the forum :flower:

Hi ,thank you for the welcoming words. :cocktail:
I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China? Well ,if that is the case , now that you can not go to China now, to finish watching those videos with patience and then talk responsibly about China will be the only and better choice. )

I often see people comment on china very negatively ...... they demonize china like a monster... cannot wait to turn China into a clown.....What is interesting in those people is that they have have never ever been to China ,not mention to live there , or know any truth there.......

What is communism in your opinion? I don't think China is communism country at all.
Why? Becuase it is not. The communism party is just a name. It is like Labour party.....Did the Labour party make people work endlessly without any rest? (Because it is called labour party!) The labour Party must have been using their own people as labour and slaves, it must have been squeezing and exploiting the people like crazy ,making use of people's labour to the last breath,turning all the people there in the country into slaves working 24/7 , non-stop...day and night.......

Is that the fact? Doesn't that sound absurd?

I am not interested in the tricks of name. Let's say, a person's name can be "picking-cotton"(peopl can have all kinds of name as they want ,right?) ,this person doesn't need pick cotton in real life, he might work as a BBC journalist or do cleaning in BBC studio.

I am not interested in the name or defination of capitalism or communism at all... because different people have different understanding ,defination about the names and concepts.

What i really care and have interest in is how the peopl live there...... Are the majority of the people in the country satisfied with their life, and government? (Pay attention : not 100%, in any country it is not possible.In any country, there are peopl who are not satisfied with this or that.it is nothing abnormal.)

Look around, when in democratic countries(where always one after another new strain shows up "suddenly‘ ), a lot of people get infected and die from coronavius every day , and in so-called communism country, a demonized(24/7,day and night,all the year roung :) ) country the coronavirus is put under control....... The name does not really matter here , you know what i mean. PEOPLE'S LIVES MATTER.

Democracy doesn't mean letting the coronavirus spread and telling people no need to wear mask when they are very aware of the fact that China successfully put the coronavirus under control by letting all the people wear mask (as soon as they knew it is respiratory infectious disease) and stay in quarantine for over 2 months. Why they didn't tell their own people(who is obsessed with their government's democracy education and propaganda.) the truth.


Why? That is what the democracy means? (another funny thing is people in the democractic countries stay home in quarantine,suffer from the covid-19......and at the same time enjoy their mainstream media feeding them with all kinds of picking-cotton business about china and miserable life of chinese people ..... while life goes back to normal in China....) I wonder why they don't use this kind of time and energy to question their own governments why they didn't tell them the truth: The masks do work ,and let them wear mask from the start??


Relax, i am not interested in communism at all, my thoughts are not restricted by the defination or all kinds of man-made expaination about it....... either.

What i really care is how people live in this country , are their lives valued by their government??? we are talking about not "the past", not "the future', but "now."


How can people judge that a country is not good ,the peole don't live happily......just because of their notorius（they themselvs know this, too.） media tell them？

Let us see in which country ,the death rate is the highest up to now in the world?

The place with the most Democracy??? WOW , How come? It is unbelievable!

Relax, i am really not interested in any tricks of name or confusing conceptss. Let us put the so-called democracy or so-called communism aside, I already passed the stage when it was so easy for me to believe anybody just because they have clever tongues.

If the people's 3 basic needs (accommodation,medical services, Education)are not guaranteed with affordable/low cost(or for free), it is not good system for me ,no matter what its name is, communism or democracy.

Did i make it clear? :)

They are trying to make 90% of us disappear without us realizing that, so they made all kinds of concepts which distract us, divide us, make us stand on the opposite side of each other..... Majority of us have been led to the way they designed for us very obediently ,cooperatively ,actively......provoke hatred further tirelessly by making roumours fly around ......This way the result will be: all disappear together.... While you think you are more smart by trying your best to demonize, fight fearlessly and bravely, to take your imaginary enemy down...

Aren't we cattle or donkeys? Whatelse can we be when we behave like that?

Why the hostility?

It does seem that you come to this site, and assume people here are not aware of the things you speak? The people here joined for one good reason, because they knew these things as well, not because they are part of that group of people who is unaware they are cattle and used as

All you said, it's obvious, nothing we did not already knew, that's why we are here in the first place, see ? I feel like you should spend a bit more time first learning what the people here write or think, instead of jumping directly to lecture them about all the things 'you think they don't know' just because you have found you can see or are aware of them

As a principle to always follow, we should always keep in mind this: "If i can see it, chances are other people can too, i'm not so unique that i'm above every else's awareness levels"

You don't need to be on the defensive so much here at Avalon, instead, if i may suggest, just try talking to people and share without trying to lecture or enforce. Otherwise you may end up doing the same things you claim the westerners are doing, or while trying to tell them they are wrong, ending up confirming authoritarian views in some way

Anyway, hope you have a good time at Avalon

:cocktail::cocktail:

Hi, Thank you for the suggestion. It does make some sense and sound reasonable.

Sorry if the information i shared make you feel offended.It must be misunderstanding. I was just responding to the fake news demonizing China spread here. I feel pretty surprised to see that happening here , because of the reason you stated: pepople who have been here are very alert, smart,should already have known the Truth(which should include the videos and messages i posted here.I suppose.)

That is why i felt it necessary to share the information i shared here. You already knew the truth, you don't help demonize China,no need to feel offended for no reason.

I am not defensive, i was just stating the truth. Nobody offended me,what should i defend?

Don't think too much.

Let us learn and grow together with this great forum. :cocktail::cocktail: Cheers!

This is a forum to hear different voices, instead of only one. Otherwise it would be a dictatorship forum. Right？

I don't have much time to do as the mainstream media do, because their Bull**** is too much. Haha. Believe me, there are are way more stuff to learn on this forum than what i want to share.

Truth is a perspective situation, isn't it? We always 'know' the truth, but from our current point of view, which may change later on in life, then we could even possibly go totally against what we considered "truth" years back

I'm not offended, if you know or have seen how Russians are treated in most places on the western world, then you understand what i've been through while on US/Western based forums and other sites. It's a never ending thing of "go back to the motherland. Why are you even here! Don't you have forums on your country, go talk there!" and so and so on, here on Avalon that has never happened, ever

There may be different opinions, but that's part of what makes it special, because the difference is that is not intolerant, if someone has an opinion and you come and expose your own, you can be listened to, no one is going to say "if you love it so much then why are you here" or such ignorant comments, leave that to Facebook or other forums

People are allowed to have their own views, but through conversation we may find ways to at least meet in the middle. Other sites are completely shutoff about it, they don't allow to even go against the site's views, i have experienced that a lot, getting threads, comments removed, then told "why are you even here" by a forum administrator no less, on a site that said "we are open minds" and stuff

I understand your views very well, i just think you need to soften up a bit and, like you said, relax, because here no one will attack your views, they will give proper educated responses to them, and if you have a thing to say, you can reply back, but always with educated responses as well.

Just saying "I know better than you how China is, so you are wrong because you don't see it how i see it" is authoritarian, instead should be "I understand how China is on daily life, this thing you said is not completely correct, and here's why..." Then conversation is possible, and may even change the views of the other person once they see how and why you see things in a different way :)



I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China?

Why, for example, reply like this to Tintin? I mean he probably uploaded that video, and if you had spent some time learning about him, you would know that he is interested in truly learning and understanding your point of view, he was opening conversation, not attacking you or China or in any way trying to say he knows better than you

You replied very confrontational, there was no need

You have not commented on the video yet, what do you think of it? Did you like it? Was there wrong assumptions made? Could you explain them better, since you have first hand experience?

If you could do that then it would improve the views of everyone here, about what China really is about

But instead you just told him he doesn't know anything, without explaining why, or how or nothing at all



Don't think too much.

I don't, it's plain and obvious as the sky around us :P

-

Masha

[Rain Forest]

Hi there Rain Forest and an enormously warm welcome to the forum, and thanks too for your contributions :flower:


For me, the main bones of contention running through the various narratives aren't really a battle or dispute between the different peoples; it's an ideological clash.

Perspectives from ones own culture compared to another's are certain to differ widely; it's also what keeps the world an endlessly fascinating and rich place to be.

There's actually a lot more that we all have in common than, prima facie, may seem to be the case.

In the 'west' we've seen endless oppression of peoples around the planet by occupation and bullying through invasion and bombardment, often in serious breach of international law and through deceptive propaganda in the media, which benefits, in the long run, only those who've financed and created those enemies (sic). More people, if not nearly all for example in the UK are absolutely opposed to that kind of activity; it's only the political leaders and whoever they may be lobbying for that stand to gain materially from encouraging this - it's a shocker.

And we need to be very wary of propaganda and be able to see it for what it is when it presents itself. The BBC here are culpable; other various better known alphabet agency fronts (CNN etc) the same. The CCP and its media arm, the same.

The psychological manipulation of communities is actually a global problem.

What we call the 'west' represented by the UK - a Common Law (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/common-law.asp#:~:text=The%20Bottom%20Line-,What%20Is%20Common%20Law%3F,or%20written%20rules%20of%20law.) jurisdiction -and USA have built their societies around those Common Law principles and a recognition of the sovereignty of the individual that can hold those in power accountable for any misdeeds. Or at least, are able to in principle.(Many European states do still operate more along the lines of the Napoleonic Code (http://guidetocostaricarealestate.com/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/chapter-11-legal-matters/napoleonic-code-v.-common-law#:~:text=Common%20Law,-The%20main%20theoretical&text=Common%20Law%20judges%20base%20their,legal%20code%2C%20and%20that's%20all.)).

But what we've seen starting to undermine centuries' of practice in the west, amongst its peoples, is an ideology which has an appalling track record for suppressing peoples' freedoms, fundamental inalienable and universal rights and that is the totalitarian mantra of Communism and its various iterations.

Visions of people being imprisoned in 'education camps (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=ICIJ_China_Cables_release_%28December%202019%29)' - CCP propaganda terminology - recalls the horrors of National Socialism in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s where their propaganda labelled these as 'labour camps'.

It's bonafide images of this activity taking place in a modern day superpower that serves as a warning - this should never happen again. This will inform much of the opinion shared here particularly on the forum where we welcome all people regardless of their ethnicity into our 'family' where they should feel safe and where no racial prejudice exists, or is tolerated.

Sadly, those in power positions in the world today and arguably now for quite some time, if they are people and not other entities even, operate more as eugenicists be they from the 'east' or the 'west' and any real war is a battle against that kind of ideology.

These are our common enemy, not each other. It's the people who often get conflated with the ideology.

We are all around the world being played, big time.

My own background, which I've shared very little about here, saw me incarnate in a Chinese port some 50 years or so ago, was delivered by a Chinese person, was occasionally taken care of by a kind Chinese woman who remains a very close family friend to this day, have a brother who is half-Chinese who I love dearly, and lived among that Chinese culture for some 6 years of my early life. Personally I have a great affinity with Chinese people, but I do not share any affinity with Communism or any iteration of it.

---------------------------------------

[Popcorn moment]

Everyone needs to watch this: I cannot recommend highly enough Adam Curtis' latest most recent production Can't Get You Out of My Head (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Can%27t_Get_You_Out_of_My_Head_%282021_documentary_series%29_dir_Adam_Curtis) where any western person in particular would be well advised to acquaint themselves with the coverage he gives to China in this, which is historically accurate, fair, and educational.

The whole 6 part series is a must watch. Guess I've emphasised that enough, right :)

One comes away from watching that with the same sense I've tried to outline above: that the peoples in their own individual ways all around the world do really strive for the very same positive outcomes for all whilst at the same time should be together fighting a bigger enemy. The enemy in this case being the adoption and practice of inhumane ideas.

A battle against -isms.

That's analogous to what we do here on the forum :flower:

Hi ,thank you for the welcoming words. :cocktail:
I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China? Well ,if that is the case , now that you can not go to China now, to finish watching those videos with patience and then talk responsibly about China will be the only and better choice. )

I often see people comment on china very negatively ...... they demonize china like a monster... cannot wait to turn China into a clown.....What is interesting in those people is that they have have never ever been to China ,not mention to live there , or know any truth there.......

What is communism in your opinion? I don't think China is communism country at all.
Why? Becuase it is not. The communism party is just a name. It is like Labour party.....Did the Labour party make people work endlessly without any rest? (Because it is called labour party!) The labour Party must have been using their own people as labour and slaves, it must have been squeezing and exploiting the people like crazy ,making use of people's labour to the last breath,turning all the people there in the country into slaves working 24/7 , non-stop...day and night.......

Is that the fact? Doesn't that sound absurd?

I am not interested in the tricks of name. Let's say, a person's name can be "picking-cotton"(peopl can have all kinds of name as they want ,right?) ,this person doesn't need pick cotton in real life, he might work as a BBC journalist or do cleaning in BBC studio.

I am not interested in the name or defination of capitalism or communism at all... because different people have different understanding ,defination about the names and concepts.

What i really care and have interest in is how the peopl live there...... Are the majority of the people in the country satisfied with their life, and government? (Pay attention : not 100%, in any country it is not possible.In any country, there are peopl who are not satisfied with this or that.it is nothing abnormal.)

Look around, when in democratic countries(where always one after another new strain shows up "suddenly‘ ), a lot of people get infected and die from coronavius every day , and in so-called communism country, a demonized(24/7,day and night,all the year roung :) ) country the coronavirus is put under control....... The name does not really matter here , you know what i mean. PEOPLE'S LIVES MATTER.

Democracy doesn't mean letting the coronavirus spread and telling people no need to wear mask when they are very aware of the fact that China successfully put the coronavirus under control by letting all the people wear mask (as soon as they knew it is respiratory infectious disease) and stay in quarantine for over 2 months. Why they didn't tell their own people(who is obsessed with their government's democracy education and propaganda.) the truth.


Why? That is what the democracy means? (another funny thing is people in the democractic countries stay home in quarantine,suffer from the covid-19......and at the same time enjoy their mainstream media feeding them with all kinds of picking-cotton business about china and miserable life of chinese people ..... while life goes back to normal in China....) I wonder why they don't use this kind of time and energy to question their own governments why they didn't tell them the truth: The masks do work ,and let them wear mask from the start??


Relax, i am not interested in communism at all, my thoughts are not restricted by the defination or all kinds of man-made expaination about it....... either.

What i really care is how people live in this country , are their lives valued by their government??? we are talking about not "the past", not "the future', but "now."


How can people judge that a country is not good ,the peole don't live happily......just because of their notorius（they themselvs know this, too.） media tell them？

Let us see in which country ,the death rate is the highest up to now in the world?

The place with the most Democracy??? WOW , How come? It is unbelievable!

Relax, i am really not interested in any tricks of name or confusing conceptss. Let us put the so-called democracy or so-called communism aside, I already passed the stage when it was so easy for me to believe anybody just because they have clever tongues.

If the people's 3 basic needs (accommodation,medical services, Education)are not guaranteed with affordable/low cost(or for free), it is not good system for me ,no matter what its name is, communism or democracy.

Did i make it clear? :)

They are trying to make 90% of us disappear without us realizing that, so they made all kinds of concepts which distract us, divide us, make us stand on the opposite side of each other..... Majority of us have been led to the way they designed for us very obediently ,cooperatively ,actively......provoke hatred further tirelessly by making roumours fly around ......This way the result will be: all disappear together.... While you think you are more smart by trying your best to demonize, fight fearlessly and bravely, to take your imaginary enemy down...

Aren't we cattle or donkeys? Whatelse can we be when we behave like that?

Why the hostility?

It does seem that you come to this site, and assume people here are not aware of the things you speak? The people here joined for one good reason, because they knew these things as well, not because they are part of that group of people who is unaware they are cattle and used as

All you said, it's obvious, nothing we did not already knew, that's why we are here in the first place, see ? I feel like you should spend a bit more time first learning what the people here write or think, instead of jumping directly to lecture them about all the things 'you think they don't know' just because you have found you can see or are aware of them

As a principle to always follow, we should always keep in mind this: "If i can see it, chances are other people can too, i'm not so unique that i'm above every else's awareness levels"

You don't need to be on the defensive so much here at Avalon, instead, if i may suggest, just try talking to people and share without trying to lecture or enforce. Otherwise you may end up doing the same things you claim the westerners are doing, or while trying to tell them they are wrong, ending up confirming authoritarian views in some way

Anyway, hope you have a good time at Avalon

:cocktail::cocktail:

Hi, Thank you for the suggestion. It does make some sense and sound reasonable.

Sorry if the information i shared make you feel offended.It must be misunderstanding. I was just responding to the fake news demonizing China spread here. I feel pretty surprised to see that happening here , because of the reason you stated: pepople who have been here are very alert, smart,should already have known the Truth(which should include the videos and messages i posted here.I suppose.)

That is why i felt it necessary to share the information i shared here. You already knew the truth, you don't help demonize China,no need to feel offended for no reason.

I am not defensive, i was just stating the truth. Nobody offended me,what should i defend?

Don't think too much.

Let us learn and grow together with this great forum. :cocktail::cocktail: Cheers!

This is a forum to hear different voices, instead of only one. Otherwise it would be a dictatorship forum. Right？

I don't have much time to do as the mainstream media do, because their Bull**** is too much. Haha. Believe me, there are are way more stuff to learn on this forum than what i want to share.

Truth is a perspective situation, isn't it? We always 'know' the truth, but from our current point of view, which may change later on in life, then we could even possibly go totally against what we considered "truth" years back

I'm not offended, if you know or have seen how Russians are treated in most places on the western world, then you understand what i've been through while on US/Western based forums and other sites. It's a never ending thing of "go back to the motherland. Why are you even here! Don't you have forums on your country, go talk there!" and so and so on, here on Avalon that has never happened, ever

There may be different opinions, but that's part of what makes it special, because the difference is that is not intolerant, if someone has an opinion and you come and expose your own, you can be listened to, no one is going to say "if you love it so much then why are you here" or such ignorant comments, leave that to Facebook or other forums

People are allowed to have their own views, but through conversation we may find ways to at least meet in the middle. Other sites are completely shutoff about it, they don't allow to even go against the site's views, i have experienced that a lot, getting threads, comments removed, then told "why are you even here" by a forum administrator no less, on a site that said "we are open minds" and stuff

I understand your views very well, i just think you need to soften up a bit and, like you said, relax, because here no one will attack your views, they will give proper educated responses to them, and if you have a thing to say, you can reply back, but always with educated responses as well.

Just saying "I know better than you how China is, so you are wrong because you don't see it how i see it" is authoritarian, instead should be "I understand how China is on daily life, this thing you said is not completely correct, and here's why..." Then conversation is possible, and may even change the views of the other person once they see how and why you see things in a different way :)



I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China?

Why, for example, reply like this to Tintin? I mean he probably uploaded that video, and if you had spent some time learning about him, you would know that he is interested in truly learning and understanding your point of view, he was opening conversation, not attacking you or China or in any way trying to say he knows better than you

You replied very confrontational, there was no need

You have not commented on the video yet, what do you think of it? Did you like it? Was there wrong assumptions made? Could you explain them better, since you have first hand experience?

If you could do that then it would improve the views of everyone here, about what China really is about

But instead you just told him he doesn't know anything, without explaining why, or how or nothing at all



Don't think too much.

I don't, it's plain and obvious as the sky around us :P

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Masha

Огромное спасибо! Я буду отвечать вам завтра. Спокойной ночи.

[Mashika]

Hi there Rain Forest and an enormously warm welcome to the forum, and thanks too for your contributions :flower:


For me, the main bones of contention running through the various narratives aren't really a battle or dispute between the different peoples; it's an ideological clash.

Perspectives from ones own culture compared to another's are certain to differ widely; it's also what keeps the world an endlessly fascinating and rich place to be.

There's actually a lot more that we all have in common than, prima facie, may seem to be the case.

In the 'west' we've seen endless oppression of peoples around the planet by occupation and bullying through invasion and bombardment, often in serious breach of international law and through deceptive propaganda in the media, which benefits, in the long run, only those who've financed and created those enemies (sic). More people, if not nearly all for example in the UK are absolutely opposed to that kind of activity; it's only the political leaders and whoever they may be lobbying for that stand to gain materially from encouraging this - it's a shocker.

And we need to be very wary of propaganda and be able to see it for what it is when it presents itself. The BBC here are culpable; other various better known alphabet agency fronts (CNN etc) the same. The CCP and its media arm, the same.

The psychological manipulation of communities is actually a global problem.

What we call the 'west' represented by the UK - a Common Law (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/common-law.asp#:~:text=The%20Bottom%20Line-,What%20Is%20Common%20Law%3F,or%20written%20rules%20of%20law.) jurisdiction -and USA have built their societies around those Common Law principles and a recognition of the sovereignty of the individual that can hold those in power accountable for any misdeeds. Or at least, are able to in principle.(Many European states do still operate more along the lines of the Napoleonic Code (http://guidetocostaricarealestate.com/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/christopher-howards-guide-to-real-estate-in-costa-rica/chapter-11-legal-matters/napoleonic-code-v.-common-law#:~:text=Common%20Law,-The%20main%20theoretical&text=Common%20Law%20judges%20base%20their,legal%20code%2C%20and%20that's%20all.)).

But what we've seen starting to undermine centuries' of practice in the west, amongst its peoples, is an ideology which has an appalling track record for suppressing peoples' freedoms, fundamental inalienable and universal rights and that is the totalitarian mantra of Communism and its various iterations.

Visions of people being imprisoned in 'education camps (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=ICIJ_China_Cables_release_%28December%202019%29)' - CCP propaganda terminology - recalls the horrors of National Socialism in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s where their propaganda labelled these as 'labour camps'.

It's bonafide images of this activity taking place in a modern day superpower that serves as a warning - this should never happen again. This will inform much of the opinion shared here particularly on the forum where we welcome all people regardless of their ethnicity into our 'family' where they should feel safe and where no racial prejudice exists, or is tolerated.

Sadly, those in power positions in the world today and arguably now for quite some time, if they are people and not other entities even, operate more as eugenicists be they from the 'east' or the 'west' and any real war is a battle against that kind of ideology.

These are our common enemy, not each other. It's the people who often get conflated with the ideology.

We are all around the world being played, big time.

My own background, which I've shared very little about here, saw me incarnate in a Chinese port some 50 years or so ago, was delivered by a Chinese person, was occasionally taken care of by a kind Chinese woman who remains a very close family friend to this day, have a brother who is half-Chinese who I love dearly, and lived among that Chinese culture for some 6 years of my early life. Personally I have a great affinity with Chinese people, but I do not share any affinity with Communism or any iteration of it.

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[Popcorn moment]

Everyone needs to watch this: I cannot recommend highly enough Adam Curtis' latest most recent production Can't Get You Out of My Head (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Can%27t_Get_You_Out_of_My_Head_%282021_documentary_series%29_dir_Adam_Curtis) where any western person in particular would be well advised to acquaint themselves with the coverage he gives to China in this, which is historically accurate, fair, and educational.

The whole 6 part series is a must watch. Guess I've emphasised that enough, right :)

One comes away from watching that with the same sense I've tried to outline above: that the peoples in their own individual ways all around the world do really strive for the very same positive outcomes for all whilst at the same time should be together fighting a bigger enemy. The enemy in this case being the adoption and practice of inhumane ideas.

A battle against -isms.

That's analogous to what we do here on the forum :flower:

Hi ,thank you for the welcoming words. :cocktail:
I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China? Well ,if that is the case , now that you can not go to China now, to finish watching those videos with patience and then talk responsibly about China will be the only and better choice. )

I often see people comment on china very negatively ...... they demonize china like a monster... cannot wait to turn China into a clown.....What is interesting in those people is that they have have never ever been to China ,not mention to live there , or know any truth there.......

What is communism in your opinion? I don't think China is communism country at all.
Why? Becuase it is not. The communism party is just a name. It is like Labour party.....Did the Labour party make people work endlessly without any rest? (Because it is called labour party!) The labour Party must have been using their own people as labour and slaves, it must have been squeezing and exploiting the people like crazy ,making use of people's labour to the last breath,turning all the people there in the country into slaves working 24/7 , non-stop...day and night.......

Is that the fact? Doesn't that sound absurd?

I am not interested in the tricks of name. Let's say, a person's name can be "picking-cotton"(peopl can have all kinds of name as they want ,right?) ,this person doesn't need pick cotton in real life, he might work as a BBC journalist or do cleaning in BBC studio.

I am not interested in the name or defination of capitalism or communism at all... because different people have different understanding ,defination about the names and concepts.

What i really care and have interest in is how the peopl live there...... Are the majority of the people in the country satisfied with their life, and government? (Pay attention : not 100%, in any country it is not possible.In any country, there are peopl who are not satisfied with this or that.it is nothing abnormal.)

Look around, when in democratic countries(where always one after another new strain shows up "suddenly‘ ), a lot of people get infected and die from coronavius every day , and in so-called communism country, a demonized(24/7,day and night,all the year roung :) ) country the coronavirus is put under control....... The name does not really matter here , you know what i mean. PEOPLE'S LIVES MATTER.

Democracy doesn't mean letting the coronavirus spread and telling people no need to wear mask when they are very aware of the fact that China successfully put the coronavirus under control by letting all the people wear mask (as soon as they knew it is respiratory infectious disease) and stay in quarantine for over 2 months. Why they didn't tell their own people(who is obsessed with their government's democracy education and propaganda.) the truth.


Why? That is what the democracy means? (another funny thing is people in the democractic countries stay home in quarantine,suffer from the covid-19......and at the same time enjoy their mainstream media feeding them with all kinds of picking-cotton business about china and miserable life of chinese people ..... while life goes back to normal in China....) I wonder why they don't use this kind of time and energy to question their own governments why they didn't tell them the truth: The masks do work ,and let them wear mask from the start??


Relax, i am not interested in communism at all, my thoughts are not restricted by the defination or all kinds of man-made expaination about it....... either.

What i really care is how people live in this country , are their lives valued by their government??? we are talking about not "the past", not "the future', but "now."


How can people judge that a country is not good ,the peole don't live happily......just because of their notorius（they themselvs know this, too.） media tell them？

Let us see in which country ,the death rate is the highest up to now in the world?

The place with the most Democracy??? WOW , How come? It is unbelievable!

Relax, i am really not interested in any tricks of name or confusing conceptss. Let us put the so-called democracy or so-called communism aside, I already passed the stage when it was so easy for me to believe anybody just because they have clever tongues.

If the people's 3 basic needs (accommodation,medical services, Education)are not guaranteed with affordable/low cost(or for free), it is not good system for me ,no matter what its name is, communism or democracy.

Did i make it clear? :)

They are trying to make 90% of us disappear without us realizing that, so they made all kinds of concepts which distract us, divide us, make us stand on the opposite side of each other..... Majority of us have been led to the way they designed for us very obediently ,cooperatively ,actively......provoke hatred further tirelessly by making roumours fly around ......This way the result will be: all disappear together.... While you think you are more smart by trying your best to demonize, fight fearlessly and bravely, to take your imaginary enemy down...

Aren't we cattle or donkeys? Whatelse can we be when we behave like that?

Why the hostility?

It does seem that you come to this site, and assume people here are not aware of the things you speak? The people here joined for one good reason, because they knew these things as well, not because they are part of that group of people who is unaware they are cattle and used as

All you said, it's obvious, nothing we did not already knew, that's why we are here in the first place, see ? I feel like you should spend a bit more time first learning what the people here write or think, instead of jumping directly to lecture them about all the things 'you think they don't know' just because you have found you can see or are aware of them

As a principle to always follow, we should always keep in mind this: "If i can see it, chances are other people can too, i'm not so unique that i'm above every else's awareness levels"

You don't need to be on the defensive so much here at Avalon, instead, if i may suggest, just try talking to people and share without trying to lecture or enforce. Otherwise you may end up doing the same things you claim the westerners are doing, or while trying to tell them they are wrong, ending up confirming authoritarian views in some way

Anyway, hope you have a good time at Avalon

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Hi, Thank you for the suggestion. It does make some sense and sound reasonable.

Sorry if the information i shared make you feel offended.It must be misunderstanding. I was just responding to the fake news demonizing China spread here. I feel pretty surprised to see that happening here , because of the reason you stated: pepople who have been here are very alert, smart,should already have known the Truth(which should include the videos and messages i posted here.I suppose.)

That is why i felt it necessary to share the information i shared here. You already knew the truth, you don't help demonize China,no need to feel offended for no reason.

I am not defensive, i was just stating the truth. Nobody offended me,what should i defend?

Don't think too much.

Let us learn and grow together with this great forum. :cocktail::cocktail: Cheers!

This is a forum to hear different voices, instead of only one. Otherwise it would be a dictatorship forum. Right？

I don't have much time to do as the mainstream media do, because their Bull**** is too much. Haha. Believe me, there are are way more stuff to learn on this forum than what i want to share.

Truth is a perspective situation, isn't it? We always 'know' the truth, but from our current point of view, which may change later on in life, then we could even possibly go totally against what we considered "truth" years back

I'm not offended, if you know or have seen how Russians are treated in most places on the western world, then you understand what i've been through while on US/Western based forums and other sites. It's a never ending thing of "go back to the motherland. Why are you even here! Don't you have forums on your country, go talk there!" and so and so on, here on Avalon that has never happened, ever

There may be different opinions, but that's part of what makes it special, because the difference is that is not intolerant, if someone has an opinion and you come and expose your own, you can be listened to, no one is going to say "if you love it so much then why are you here" or such ignorant comments, leave that to Facebook or other forums

People are allowed to have their own views, but through conversation we may find ways to at least meet in the middle. Other sites are completely shutoff about it, they don't allow to even go against the site's views, i have experienced that a lot, getting threads, comments removed, then told "why are you even here" by a forum administrator no less, on a site that said "we are open minds" and stuff

I understand your views very well, i just think you need to soften up a bit and, like you said, relax, because here no one will attack your views, they will give proper educated responses to them, and if you have a thing to say, you can reply back, but always with educated responses as well.

Just saying "I know better than you how China is, so you are wrong because you don't see it how i see it" is authoritarian, instead should be "I understand how China is on daily life, this thing you said is not completely correct, and here's why..." Then conversation is possible, and may even change the views of the other person once they see how and why you see things in a different way :)



I wonder if you really watched the video which was made by westners from different countries who have lived in China many years.(Are you really interested in the truth about China?

Why, for example, reply like this to Tintin? I mean he probably uploaded that video, and if you had spent some time learning about him, you would know that he is interested in truly learning and understanding your point of view, he was opening conversation, not attacking you or China or in any way trying to say he knows better than you

You replied very confrontational, there was no need

You have not commented on the video yet, what do you think of it? Did you like it? Was there wrong assumptions made? Could you explain them better, since you have first hand experience?

If you could do that then it would improve the views of everyone here, about what China really is about

But instead you just told him he doesn't know anything, without explaining why, or how or nothing at all



Don't think too much.

I don't, it's plain and obvious as the sky around us :P

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Masha

Огромное спасибо! Я буду отвечать вам завтра. Спокойной ночи.

Благодарю вас за внимание

Спасибо

[Rain Forest]

In 2021, April, Israeli vlogger who has been living in China for over 13 years went to Xinjiang to interview the local cotton farmers. He tells you what is happening in Xinjiang with cotton farmers and forced labors with his own eyes.


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[Rain Forest]

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What is interesting is ---- so many people applauded......and laughed......unscrupulously

So obviously when they spread rumour,they always know what they are doing......
They used a small tube of washing powder as a proof of Iraq's chemical weapons, and launched a war on Iraq......This is only a small tiny bit of the lies-iceberg they made.

[Rain Forest]

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How many kids do they have? I am curious.

[Rain Forest]

March 17, 2019 A Uygur girl in Xinjiang introduced the picking process of cotton fields.


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There must be a lot of "forced labor" and "concentration camps". It was shot in 2019.

[Rain Forest]

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Uygur people singing and dancing here and there (on different occasions,daily life) under the "oppression" from China Government.

It is how the life is there now.some of them wear masks.

The grandpa's shoe :happythumbsup::happythumbsup:

[Rain Forest]

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Uygur people,other minorities (+travellers )in Xinjiang singing and dancing here and there (daily life) under the "oppression" from China Government.

some are wearing masks. It is how the life is there now.

Even kids there are good at dancing with good sense of rhythm. So Lovely!

[Rain Forest]

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[Rain Forest]

A Israeli vlogger who has been living in China 13 years visited 3 Uygur family ---- April,2021

How many kids do they have? How is their real life?

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[Rain Forest]

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[Rain Forest]

No more lies about China. When people spread rumours from mainstream media,they are helping to provoke a war,the 3rd world war...

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some comments :


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"I live in the US and I've been hearing so much negative things and hatred about China that I got sick and tired and bought a plane ticket there to see it for myself. Stayed there for a month and found out everything told was complete BS. I even criticized the CCP government and nothing happened. It's all BS about being arrested, human rights abuse, etc...total BS. To my biggest surprise was I found so many American expats living there, and they all say american media is nothing else but BS and bad education. And regarding the policy about having one child, that only applies if you are living in central areas of big main cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, etc. where population is highly congested. If you live in the suburbs or smaller cities you can have as many kids as you want. You are also allowed to protest against the government as long as it's a non violent peaceful demonstration. Seen one when I was there and was inside the crowd with the protesters. Western media is nothing else but complete bullsh*t!"


"We don't hate Chinese people, we just want to destroy their country and way of life"

"Very true Fernando. CPC has become integrated part of China and China modern history. Hating CPC is hating Chinese, no doubt about that."

’History shows how much the West loves the Chinese and why stop with China.The nations that have had colonies have a record of treating their subjects with brutal authority ,and this only stopped when they were driving out .'

"The US regime also said the same thing with Venezuela, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Afganistan, many countries in south america and list goes on and on. This only means that tthey want to destroy these countries."

"What do you mean I'd have to communicate with the Chinese people if I want change in their government, they should just do what I think!"

”You cannot love the son when you hate his father - African Proverb“

[Icare]

China's "Wolf warrior diplomats" are back on attack mode among backlash over Uyghur issues (3:20 minutes):
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East Turkistan government in exile asks India to support Uyghur nation (2:20 minutes):
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China sentences 2 Uyghur ex-govt officials to death - for "separatism" (1:52 min.):
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Why China is letting its contempt for the West show (4:35 minutes):
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[Icare]

China’s Uyghur press conference part of ‘wider propaganda offensive’
8.4.2021

4:15 minutes

The depth of their contempt of the free press is shocking:
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Chinese official defends Uyghur training camps (8:22minutes):
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This undercover report is a little older (from 2019) but it gives some insight into the situation. A young femaile reporter went undercover and filmed most of this report with a hidden camera.
Very interesting. 31:47 minutes:

China’s Vanishing Muslims: Undercover In The Most Dystopian Place In The World
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From 9.4.2021, 2 days ago:
China refutes contents of database on alleged Xinjiang victims 4:50 min.)
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[Icare]

A South African guy who lived in China for 14 years and is married to a Chinese woman has had a rather horiffic experiment with the CCP.
This is rather scary.
14:04 minutes:

Communist China uses Cancel Culture against YOU!
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The same guy talks about youtubers (foreigners) who are being financed to promote China and the CCP.
Quite interesting, helps one understand where all the positive youtube videos about China come from:
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Here's an article from The Times about how Beijing funds British youtubers to further its propaganda war (it looks like that's one of the reasons why some people still think the Uyghurs are not being treated badly at all). Worth a read.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/beijing-funds-british-youtubers-to-further-its-propaganda-war-x5gqp5fg0

[onawah]

3 GORGES DAM/ FLOODS/ EARTHQUAKES -- LIVE CHAT WITH JAMES

(This senior gentleman rambles a lot, is "chatty" and is a bit eccentric, but he has contacts in China and has lived there himself.
The source I was using most for 3 Gorges Dam coverage is no longer on youtube, and it's only become more difficult to get any real, uncensored news about China.
But this man is doing his best to fill the gap.)

2,803 views•Streamed live 5/23/21
THE JAMES NEIL COOPER CHANNEL
15.4K subscribers
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3 GORGES DAM CHINA MAY 23RD REPORTCRACKS/LEVELS/FLOODS/AFTERMATH
28,680 views•May 23, 2021
1.8K
THE JAMES NEIL COOPER CHANNEL
15.4K subscribersNBXZJNYNTy0

[onawah]

Earthquakes In 4 Places Within 12 Hours In China
(When it floods in China, it really floods! )
122,998 views•Premiered May 24, 2021
2K
China Observer
90.6K subscribers

"From the evening of May 21 to the early morning of May 22, a total of 12 hours, a series of earthquakes occurred in four places in mainland China, namely Yunnan, Sichuan, Qinghai and Shaanxi.
The first earthquake, a 6.4 magnitude earthquake in Yangbi County, Dali Prefecture, Yunnan Province.
The second earthquake, a 3.4 magnitude earthquake in Xuyong County, Luzhou City, Sichuan Province.
The third earthquake, magnitude 7.4 in Mado County, Qinghai Province.
The fourth earthquake, a 3.6 magnitude earthquake in Shangluo, Shaanxi.
Floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, and the coronavirus outbreak that originated from Wuhan - why are there so many disasters in China? In ancient traditional Chinese culture, there is a saying that "heaven and mankind are united" and "connection between heaven and mankind". When there are abnormalities, people, especially the ones in power, have to reflect on it, offer sacrifices to the heavens, and even issue imperial edicts for sins.
Since 2020, the Chinese Communist regime has fallen into a more serious internal and external crisis, with an internal economic downturn and a dark tide of power struggle among various factions; externally, the wolf warrior diplomacy has made the international community more united against the hegemony of the Chinese Communist Party, resulting in a diplomatic defeat and suppressions from the international community. Under the multiple crises, the CCP's regime is shaking like the recent unexplained shaking of the Sage Plaza Building."0VPOs38ZG8g

[onawah]

Massive explosion in Hubei, Gas explosion
9,612 views• 6/15/21
China Observer
95.6K subscribers

"At around 6:30 a.m. on June 13th, a gas explosion occurred at a farm market in Zhangwan District of Shiyan City, Hubei Province.

The authorities said the accident was caused by a natural gas leak from the pipeline after preliminary analysis, but official media said the investigation is still underway.

The incident occurred when the food market was already open for business, and many people were buying and selling fresh food and eating breakfast.

The safety inspection conducted by the official safety supervisory departments is mostly a mere formality. "
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Once-in-a-century Rainstorm Sweeps Southern China City
31,993 views•Premiered Jun 11, 2021
China Observer
95.6K subscribers

"Since several rainstorms and floods hit China in May, the weather has become even harsher in June. A once-in-a-century extreme rainstorm hit Shaoxing City, Zhejiang Province, in the early hours of June 10, and set a record for the heaviest precipitation in the city.

In fact, since May 11 this year, the southern part of China has experienced several heavy rainfalls. As reported by Chinese media, due to the high overlap of rainfall areas, some rivers and lakes have risen in water level and caused flooding of different scales in the area."
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[onawah]

Severe Floods Hit 9 Provinces in One Day, Large Hail Struck Beijing
17,189 views Premiered Jun 29, 2021
China Observer
97.9K subscribers
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[onawah]

World’s 2nd Largest Hydropower Station Begins Operation, Bring More Risks to The Three Gorges Dam
2,470 views
7/2/21
China Observer
97.9K subscribers

"World’s Second Largest 16 GW Mega Hydropower Station Begins Operation, May Bring More Risks to The Three Gorges Dam

On the morning of June 28th, the first turbines of China's Baihetan hydropower station were officially put into operation, with a total installed capacity of 16GW, ranking second in the world after the Three Gorges hydropower station with 22.5GW.

According to mainland media reports, Baihetan hydropower plant is located on the main stream of Jinsha River at the junction of Qiaojia County in Yunnan Province and Ningnan County in Sichuan Province, with a total investment of about 34 billion USD, which is 2.5 billion more than the Three Gorges Project.

The Baihetan Project is the largest and most technically challenging hydropower project in the world. It consists of a dam, flood discharge and energy dissipation facilities, water diversion, power generation system, and more. The normal storage level of the reservoir is 825 meters, with a total storage capacity of 20.6 billion cubic meters. the dam is a concrete double curvature arch dam, with an arc length of 209m, an elevation of 834m and a maximum height of 289m.

The Jinsha River is rich in hydropower resources. The 500 kilometers long downstream section from Panzhihua City to Yibin City in Sichuan, has a drop of 719 meters. On this section of the river alone, China’s Three Gorges Group has built four giant hydroelectric power stations. In addition to Baihetan hydropower station, the other three are Wudongde, Xiluodu, Xiangjiaba stations. The total installed capacity of the four power stations reached 46 GW, accounting for half of the total installed capacity of the Jinsha River hydropower development plan. At present, the first units of Wudongde Hydropower Station started operation in June 2020, while Xiluodu and Xiangjiaba Stations have achieved full power generation in June 2014 and July 2014, respectively.

Xi Jinping's congratulatory letter gave full recognition to the Baihetan project, and said, “this fully demonstrates that socialism is worked for, and the new era is fought for.” Xi's statement is in line with Beijing authorities' massive construction of numerous hydropower plants on the Jinsha River, which is in line with the CCP’s long-time philosophy of "conquering and transforming nature.”

However, the consequences of "conquering and transforming nature” are often the opposite of what’s expected. "
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[onawah]

Three Gorges dam threatens to overflow, Mass Evacuation begins, china floods
8,944 viewsJul 6, 2021
240
USA Military Power

( I don't know how credible this source is, but if this report is true, it looks like this year's flooding in China will be worse than last year's.

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[onawah]

Yet more flooding & evacuations in China (including Beijing) and lots more to come
This source isn't the best, but at least there's no automated voice and he doesn't appears to have an agenda (other than a little self-glorification :lol:):
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[onawah]

Heavy Rainfall Hits Sichuan Province | Thousands Evacuated
7,534 views 7/16/21
China Observer
101K subscribers

"After several rainstorms and floods that hit China in May, the weather has become even harsher in July. On July 10th, a once-in-a-decade rainstorm hit Sichuan Province, submerging many cities. The heavy rainfall has led to the evacuation of thousands of people in seven cities in the province.'

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(If this is just one-in-a-decade flooding, it's difficult to imagine how the Chinese people cope at all. And it's just the beginning of the rainy season now.)

[onawah]

China's competition for living space | DW Documentary
1,397,953 views
May 30, 2021
16K
DW Documentary
3.19M subscribers

"More than 60 percent of China's population of 1.4 billion currently lives in cities. Within a decade, the share of urban dwellers is expected to increase to 75 percent. Construction is booming and competition for residential land is fierce.

But the right to live in a city in China is conditional. Authorities want their modern cities to be peopled with well-educated, highly-qualified or politically well-connected residents. As a result, certain standards have to be met to be eligible for a modern, urban home. Only members of China's political classes and the financially successful have a hope of qualifying. Yet more than half of the people who live in cities are so-called "migrant workers." They come from rural communities and have no official rights to settle in cities. They are there to work. With no proper rights, they are merely tolerated while they serve as merchants, servants, waitstaff, cleaners, construction workers and tradespeople. But while they are indispensable to daily life in the cities, they are unable to afford their exorbitant rents. This documentary looks at how and where these workers live, and asks whether middle and working class Chinese even figure in the official vision of shiny, high-tech cities. The filmmakers also look at what happens to those who oppose official plans, or stand in the way of the building boom."
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Made in China: 37 Bridges collapsed in 5 years | Ancient China | Quality | moral issues
701,456 views
Sep 4, 2020
12K
China Observer
101K subscribers

"Many people think that "made in China" stands for inferior quality, so let's dig deeper for the causes.

In the five years from 2007 to 2012, a total of 37 bridges collapsed in China, including 13 bridges under construction, which killed 182 people and injured 177, an average of 7.4 "deadly bridges" per year.

In 2008, it was found that many infants were suffering from kidney stones after consuming Sanlu milk powder, which was found to contain melamine and cyanuric acid. According to china’s Ministry of Health, "By the end of December 2008, a cumulative total of 296,000 children with kidney stones caused by consumption of Sanlu milk powder had been reported nationwide, and 52,898 were hospitalized and treated. The Sanlu incident caused an international outcry and 27 countries, including Canada, the United Kingdom, and Italy, immediately announced a ban on the import of Chinese dairy products and related products.

Ancient buildings are strong and can last long, but nowadays in China buildings are like tofu.
Why?"
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[onawah]

Apocalypse in China Worst flood in Zhengzhou history
1,357,388 views
Jul 20, 2021
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KN News

"Today, July 20, the heaviest rain in history hit the Chinese city of Zhengzhou, Henan province.
In just an hour, 200 mm of precipitation fell.
The average annual rainfall in Zhengzhou is about 600 mm.
What is happening there now looks like the Apocalypse.
The whole city is flooded with water, cars are floating along the streets.
Residents of the city climbed trees and waited for rescue.
The subway cars are flooded, the passengers are helpless,
Houses and walls collapsed and several bridges were washed away.
More than 20 dead, many are missing, hundreds are trapped, the damage is enormous."
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Two dams collapsed, 71K are at risk, China severe flood, dam failure
5,510 views 7/20/21
China Observer
102K subscribers

"The collapse of Two Dams in Inner Mongolia; Worst Fears have Come True
According to the official website of the Ministry of Water Resources of China, between 8:00 p.m. on July 17th and 2:00 p.m. on July 18th, heavy to severe rainfall occurred in Morin Dawa Banner of Hulunbuir City, an Autonomous Region in Inner Mongolia. At 1:48 p.m. on July 18th, a dam collapsed at Yongan Reservoir on a tributary of the Nuomin River in Mo Banner; after the collapse of the dam, a large amount of floodwater rushed into Xinfa Reservoir 13 kilometers downstream, causing another dam to collapse at about 3:30 p.m. at Xinfa Reservoir, which has a capacity of 38 million Cubic Metres.

According to mainland media reports, the people of the four downstream villages have been evacuated, and authorities have yet to announce casualty numbers. On the night of the 18th, the flood has merged into the mainstream of the Nuomin River. Flooding caused the G111 national highway in Mo Banner to collapse, causing road disruptions. Downstream villages and farmlands have been turned into a sea of water.

It is reported that 16,660 people were affected by the dam breach, and 54,000 acres of farmland were flooded. The flood also destroyed 22 bridges, 124 culverts, 15.6 kilometers of highways, and 20 kilometers of road shoulders.

From information on the web, we know that Xinfa Reservoir was built in 1958 and started operation in 1959. No information was found on Yongan Reservoir, but it’s said that the two reservoirs went through reinforcement and maintenance in 1997. It’s estimated that the two reservoirs were built around the same time.

According to 2021 statistics from the Ministry of Water Resources, there are 98,000 reservoirs in China, including 4,700 reservoirs with a capacity of 10 Million to 1 Billion cubic meters, and 94,000 reservoirs with a capacity of 100,000 to 10 million cubic meters. More than 80% of them were built in the 1950s and 1970s, and more than 95% before the 1980s. The information shows that over 95% of China's reservoir dams are earth and rock-fill dams, and their lifespans are usually only about 50 years. Therefore, most of the dams in China have exceeded or are approaching the end of their design life.

According to the statistics of dams from 1954 to 2001, the annual rate of dam failures in China reached 0.088%, while the average annual rate of dam failures overseas since 1900, excluding those caused by war, is 0.02% in the United States, 0.004% in Japan, and 0.02% on average in the world. Therefore, the average annual rate of dam failures in China is more than four times the world average.

In August 2013, flooding across six provinces in China resulted in many deaths and injuries due to dam collapses. In an article titled "China's Dangerous Dams: 179 Cities Facing Dam Collapse," the Chinese media outlet NetEase News said that more than 84,000 small and medium-sized reservoirs in China lack funds for management and maintenance, and that dams would collapse from time to time. As a result of reservoir and dam problems, 179 cities, a quarter of all cities in China, and 285 counties, a sixth of all counties, are facing serious risks.

Last year, China experienced the most severe flooding since 1998, causing damage to 131 large and medium-sized reservoirs and 1991 small reservoirs."
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Nationwide FEMA & FCC Test*China's 3rd Dam Collapse In 48HRS*Has WW#3 Already Begun
2,263 views Jul 20, 2021
EEARTS
13.1K subscribers

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5yTE4-9CUbY

[onawah]

Mike Adams talks about China, what could happen if the 3 Gorges Dam collapses, and more
in the audio news compilation here: https://www.brighteon.com/96b41e73-89e8-4435-96f4-a1d0896bd919
and article here: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-21-collapse-convergence-floods-droughts-famine-vaccine-biowar-devastation.html

Also posted here (in full): https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115452-News-compilations-Epoch-Times-NTD-WeAreChange-etc.&p=1441717&viewfull=1#post1441717

"Collapse convergence: Floods, droughts, famine, biowar and currency implosion

While plenty of people can survive one crisis at a time -- such as a food shortage or short-term flood -- very few people are prepared to survive a multi-layered, engineered cluster of catastrophes that are unleashed on top of each other.

My urgent message for all those who wish to survive is that we need to prepare for simultaneous, engineered collapse events that are timed for maximum destruction. The demonic mass murderers in charge of our planet right now are deliberately trying to eliminate as many human beings as possible, and the depopulation vaccines are just the beginning.

Despite all this doom and gloom, preparedness makes this survivable. Because prepared humans are hard to kill."

[onawah]

NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM
15,369 views Streamed live on Jul 22, 2021
1.3K
Giza Death Star Community
24.1K subscribers
"There's bad news for the Nefarium's China franchise..."

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(Dr. Joseph Farrell talks about why the CCP is weakening and becoming desperate, in part due to the decades of building faulty dams, and he alludes to possible weather weaponry that may be part of the cause of so much unprecedented flooding. More details about the flooding in the Zero Hedge article he cites here: https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/dam-near-chinas-flooded-zhenghou-city-collapses-third-last-48-hours )

[onawah]

Flooded Tunnel Was Drained, Hundreds of Cars Found, but You Will Never Know the Truth
22,864 views 7/28/21
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China Observer
119K subscribers

"Recently, the massive flooding in Henan Province has drawn global attention. The subsequent announcement of the rescue, death and injury toll and disaster conditions shook the hearts of millions of people.

On the afternoon of July 25th, Henan Province held a flood control emergency news conference. The conference stated that according to preliminary statistics, from July 16th to 25th, this round of heavy rainfall affected 139 counties (cities, districts) in Henan province. A total of 1464 townships and 11.45 million people were affected. 63 people died, and 5 people are missing.

According to official information from Zhengzhou, the rescue of Line 5 is now basically over.

Let's take a look at the rescue situation in the Jingguang Road tunnel. In the afternoon of July 20th, the tunnel was flooded in merely 5 minutes, and a large number of people were trapped in their vehicles. The authorities' handling of the situation was even more unacceptable. On the afternoon of July 21st, after most of those trapped have been submerged for nearly a day, authorities finally began pumping out the water. At that time, the depth of water accumulated in the Jingguang North Road Tunnel was about 13 meters.

On July 24th, rescue work for the Jingguang Road tunnel was wrapping up. The previous person in charge also told The Paper that in the Jingguang North Road tunnel, they found 265 cars, and there are only 4-5 cars remaining.

This is significantly different from the death toll reported by netizens on the Internet, and The Paper previously reported that there were thousands of vehicles flooded. The video shared by netizens shows that the tunnel entrance was flooded with a mountain of cars. The number of fatalities is estimated to be in the hundreds or even thousands based on the number of vehicles towed out.

But according to videos taken by netizens online, although the scene has been taken over by the military and put under martial law, a large number of people are still watching at the exit, waiting for news of their families. On the evening of July 23rd, near the Jingguang Road tunnel, the families of many victims mourned their loved ones in the streets.

At present, videos and information about the Jingguang Road tunnel have been banned from social media platforms such as WeChat and Weibo. Even the official Chinese media, CCTV, did not report the specific situation, and news of the flooding in Zhengzhou was buried by news of returning to a normal life. The "truth about the Jingguang Road Tunnel" is no longer available in the Chinese mainstream media.

A video circulating on the Internet shows that a number of foreign media reporters arriving in Zhengzhou, Xinxiang, and Hebi were stopped by "patriotic wolf warriors". Foreign journalists from Deutsche Welle, CNN, BBC, ABC Australia, and other foreign reporters in Henan were met with various so-called "civil" and "self-policing" attacks. In several clips circulating on the Internet, residents accuse foreign journalists of "selective reporting" and "deliberately smearing China '' the moment they see them.

Now that typhoon In-fa has landed in Zhejiang and Shanghai, the public attention will soon be diverted to the east coast, and perhaps the floods in Henan will no longer be a concern. The truth of what caused this major disaster and the real number of deaths may be a permanent state secret, just like many of the other facts covered up by the Chinese Communist Party. "

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[pabranno]

Forgive me if I’m asking something that has already been addressed. I did not watch al the videos, and have not studied all posts here.
Is there 3 lenses to look at this through?
1. Naturally occurring disastrous weather which CCP is trying to address
2. CCP orchestrating this situation
3. HAARP being used against CCP

Which is most likely? Which is ruled out?
Is it a combination?

Just trying to understand better. Thank you!

Pamela

[Bill Ryan]

Forgive me if I’m asking something that has already been addressed. I did not watch al the videos, and have not studied all posts here.
Is there 3 lenses to look at this through?
1. Naturally occurring disastrous weather which CCP is trying to address
2. CCP orchestrating this situation
3. HAARP being used against CCP

Which is most likely? Which is ruled out?
Is it a combination?

Just trying to understand better. Thank you!

PamelaIt's a good question. Increasingly, I'm thinking that IF the huge Chinese floods were caused by US weather weapons, that would be a very dangerous gambit. Two things might be triggered, if this was happening:


China would probably be very well aware of this, and might retaliate in kind. (Of course, this could be what's already happening.)
China, faced with catastrophic food shortages and a potentially hungry and desperate population, might be tipped into physically invading the US for its farmland. One might think that the US military would NOT want to provoke that, even if they though they could defend against it.

[pabranno]

Thank you for the response Bill. As a follow up, slightly off topic (but it will be my last one🙂).
...who do you think has the greatest control over the use of HAARP technology/weaponry? Who’s got the biggest stick here?
Implied is the cold willingness to wield it with no compunction.

Pamela

Thanks again,
Pamela

[Bill Ryan]

Thank you for the response Bill. As a follow up, slightly off topic (but it will be my last one🙂).
...who do you think has the greatest control over the use of HAARP technology/weaponry? Who’s got the biggest stick here?
Implied is the cold willingness to wield it with no compunction.
I'd suspect the US — but who knows what the Russians and Chinese may have!

[onawah]

China has been buying land and businesses in the US for quite some time--I think they saw this coming, in part, at least.
Perhaps COVID was their response to HAARP, etc.
They may not have to invade the US militarily to use the US for it's own purposes.
Possibly Bill Gates has been used as a front for some of that, since he is now one of the biggest owners of farmland in the US, if not the biggest.

[onawah]

News about China from NTD today 8/3/21
here: N3SaaP1HLR0
These are the time stamps:

29:17 15M Suffer in Flood-Stricken Henan Province
30:42 Accident Exposes Chinese Propaganda Video
31:39 China’s Largest Desert Flooded by Heavy Rain

[onawah]

Where did the huge investment go? TouFu Dregs|Crumbling roads|Swaying buildings| Collapsing bridges
48,978 viewsPremiered 12 hours ago
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China Observer
129K subscribers

"The city's waterlogging problem must be the first issue reflected by the Zhengzhou flood. Zhengzhou government has invested 8.25 billion USD in the past 5 years to address the urban waterlogging problem. In 2016, Zhengzhou was selected as a provincial pilot site for the development of “Sponge City” in Henan Province.

Zhengzhou has invested a lot of human and financial resources in developing Sponge City. According to the Zhengzhou Evening News on May 29, since 2016, Zhengzhou has completed 5,162 kilometers of drainage network and the 50% utilization rate of recycled water. After implementing the Sponge City Development, Zhengzhou has eliminated 125 flood-prone sites in the city, with a 77% elimination rate.

Some people said: "Even if the contractors cut corners 10 times, as long as they follow the normal procedures to lay the foundation, the tree along the sidewalk will not grow directly to the ground. " He also said that," those new concepts of smart city and sponge city only sound fancy but useless.”
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3 GORGES DAM OFFICIALS FLOOD CHINA MANY AT RISK RESERVOIRS
6,158 views Aug 8, 2021
THE JAMES NEIL COOPER CHANNEL
28.2K subscribers
3 GORGES DAM OFFICIALS FLOOD CHINA
MANY AT RISK RESERVOIRS
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[onawah]

Discharged No Warning Again in Sichuan; Severe Flooding Up To 2 Meters Deep, Waterlog
4,024 views 8/10/21
China Observer
130K subscribers

"From the heavy rainfall that began on the night of August 6th, the water level in the tributaries of Fujiang River, Jialing River, and Qujiang River in Sichuan Province rose significantly.
10 rivers and 14 Hydrological stations exceeded warning levels, many reservoirs also exceeded their designed water levels.
From August 7th to 8th, there were heavy rainstorms in many areas in Qu County and Dazhu County.
Many nearby reservoirs discharged water without warning at night, causing floods in at least dozens of local towns and villages, affecting around one million people. The most serious flooding was in the town of Sanban, where the city was flooded to a height of two meters, causing hundreds of local merchants to be swept away by the water, with heavy economic losses.
According to a report, waterlogging occurred in Yanfeng, Tuxi, and other towns in Qu County, and numerous stores and houses were flooded.
Wanshou Street in Wanshou Town was flooded more than a meter deep overnight, and many homes along the street were soaked in water.
Local residents said that the town’s terrain was not low, but it was still flooded because there is a lake near the town.
The heavy rain caused the lake to overflow.
Dazhu County was also seriously impacted, with 31 towns affected, leading to flooding in towns and landslides blocking many roads.
The video shows streets and houses being flooded, and people shouting "the streets are flooded entirely.”
There were several people struggling in the flood, and many cars were submerged. According to Chinese media reports, as of the evening of August 8th, more than 440,000 people in 119 villages of 6 cities and 13 counties were affected in Sichuan Province, resulting in a direct economic loss of 38.5 million US Dollars.
It is said that over 80,000 people have been transferred, and no one has been reported dead or missing due to floods.
On the 8th, several trains and flights in Dazhou were forced to suspend operations. The disasters in Sichuan caused by flash floods are extensive.
In the basin around the mountainous areas and the Panxi region flash floods and mudslides often occur suddenly and concurrently, which can easily lead to river diversions and makes prevention difficult.
Among the 7,000 small reservoirs and 1,400 dangerous reservoirs in the province, some of the reservoirs are over-aged and operate with malfunctions, so their ability to prevent extreme rainstorms is poor, which affects flood safety.
After the CCP seized power, it called for "conquering and transforming nature", with the slogan "Let the mountains lower their heads and make the rivers give way".

All rights reserved. "
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(If you live in China, you'd better know how to swim!
There have been many reports about the CCP discharging waters from reservoirs at night and without warning, flooding the homes and towns of the people, then blaming it on natural causes.
I wonder how long the people will continue to stand for this...)

[onawah]

The PARTY is OVER! China is done!
125,800 views Aug 27, 2021
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serpentza
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"It's OVER guys, China is no longer an option to work, live and invest in..."
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[onawah]

BIG PROBLEMS FOR THREE GORGES DAM
11,489 views Aug 28, 2021
432
DOBRINICH CHANNEL
17.1K subscribers

"Huge Floods have turned to the Yangtze River causing concerns that the dam maybe in trouble.'
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[onawah]

Hidden History of China (Tartaria)
The demonic roots of the current Illuminati can be traced back to Asia according to researcher Susan Bradford.
Paul posted this first here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116122-The-Money-Masters-Crises-of-war-plague-and-hunger-Total-central-real-time-control-of-all-money.&p=1449520&viewfull=1#post1449520
with this intro:
"Susan Bradford seems to have done some excellent digging into the history, over centuries, of the "Evil Bastards" on this planet.
Sarah Westall has this new interview with her. The substance of the interview starts shortly after the 11 minute mark."

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[onawah]

Breaking - Did China just Declare WAR?
103,745 views Sep 3, 2021
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serpentza
860K subscribers
"Chinese State Media has just released a document that states the USA is engaging in biological warfare and other transgressions against China, is this a declaration of War?"
Here's the Communist State Media document: http://www.news.cn/politics/2021-08/2...

For a deeper dive into China's Propaganda influence and soft power, watch our liveshow ADVPodcasts: https://www.youtube.com/advpodcasts
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[onawah]

Review of "BREAKING – DID CHINA JUST DECLARE WAR?"
September 4, 2021
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/breaking-did-china-just-declare-war/
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6xcvDMDg8TY

"South African YouTuber, Winston Sterzel and his American friend, Matthew Tye in 2017 were two Westerners living in China and married to Chinese women, making amusing videos, sharing their excitement and love for that country and offering advice to Westerners interested in living there. They even built their own motorcycles and made road trip documentaries in the Chinese outback.

They never thought, back in 2017 that they would be forced to leave. In recent years, there’s been a major clampdown in China. Despite their having lived there for over a decade, they could no longer do simple things like buy train tickets without a Chinese government ID and Chinese policy would never enable them to become citizens. All four and their children recently moved to California.

CCP TELLS ITS CITIZENS THAT U.S. IS LAUNCHING “FEROCIOUS” ATTACKS AGAINST CHINA


I found Winston’s report very interesting, because while we, in the US, are reeling at the CCP’s apparent control of the US government, military, regulatory agencies and corporations, having stolen our elections and won Afghanistan, plus billions of dollars of matériel and trillions in infrastructure and untold reserves of lithium needed for the car batteries that we will be forced to use by the Green New Deal, which was recently passed in the infrastructure bill.

To us, the CCP seems conniving beyond imagining, with a seemingly all-powerful blackmail grip on the leaders of the West – particularly, on the Biden family.

The CCP tells a very different story to the Chinese people. Winston gives us an insight into how the Chinese Government is manipulating their people with a recent press release on the front page of Xinhua News, the official news outlet for the Chinese Communist Party that has also been published in the People’s Daily newspaper, which essentially announces a Cultural Revolution 2.0; a rejection of Capitalism, a war against the United States and a new austerity that sounds like it might be the Chinese version of the Great Reset.

Winston reads the article’s conclusion first:

“‘China is currently facing an increasingly severe and complex international environment. The United States is implementing increasingly severe military threats, economic and technological blockades, financial strikes, political and diplomatic siege against China, and is launching biological warfare, cyber warfare, and public opinion against China.'”

He says, “Remember, everybody’s read this. Nobody doesn’t read the People’s Daily….so the vast majority of the people now take it that the United States is launching biological warfare, ferocious and barbaric attacks against China and so China needs to prepare.

“The meat of the article…explains how all these changes that Xi Jinping has put into place are good and why they are going to prepare China for a war against America, because that’s what this is. I think everybody can read between the lines, here…

DISAPPEARED BILLIONAIRES, CULTURAL REVOLUTION 2.0

“The next section then goes ahead to attack Capitalism and it’s there to attack these big enterprises in China…you [may] know …[what’s] been happening with Chinese tech companies, in particular; you know Alibaba’s IPO got shut down before it could even start to fly.

“Jack Ma, the owner of Alibaba and the IP Thieves has disappeared and is now no longer in the limelight. He’s been quashed and taken out, along with a lot of other Chinese billionaires, who have been silenced or been taken care of and a lot of big companies like DiDi.

“You saw what happened with DiDi tried to list in the American Stock Exchange – they did list on the American Stock Exchange and then suddenly, China pulled a big number on them and removed their apps from the store and the stock fell…

“It says,

“‘The series of rectification actions by the People’s Republic of China are telling us that China is undergoing major changes, from the economic, financial, cultural, and political fields to a profound change, or a profound revolution.

“This is important wording, Guys. This…is now, in black and white, on Chinese state media, saying that the Cultural Revolution 2.0 has begun…It’s something that I’ve been predicting for a very long time would happen. I didn’t realize that it would start happening and being acknowledged so soon. Anyway, let’s continue:

“‘This is a return from the capital group to the masses of the people, and this is a transformation from capital-centered to people-centered. Therefore, this is a political change, the people are becoming the main body of this change again, and all those who block this people-centered change will be discarded.

“What he’s doing is he’s talking about Jack Ma and the other billionaires – and anyone who’s kind of drunk on the idea of Western capitalism: You will be discarded if you get in the way of this people-orientated revolution that they’re talking about here.

“See, now they’re making enemies out of Capitalism, here; making enemies out of the idea of Capitalism and saying that it has to go back to ‘people-orientated’, rather than Capitalism-orientated…This is the wording coming out of the government here, Guys. This is what everyone’s reading in China.

“‘This profound change is also a return, a return to the original intention of the Chinese Communist Party, a return to the people-centered nature, and a return to the essence of socialism.’

Winston says, “They want to now return to the core idea of the Chinese Communist Party, which is to hate Capitalism, hate the West and try to do its failed experiment all over again.

“Now, this paragraph that I’m about to read next, this is an important one:

“‘This change will wash away all the dirt. The capital market will no longer become a paradise for capitalists to get rich overnight, the cultural market will no longer be a paradise for nymphomaniac stars, and news and public opinion will no longer be a position for worshipping Western culture.

“See how they’re demonizing Western culture? Demonizing the idea of the entertainment industry and demonizing Capitalism, all in the first bloody sentence, there? Let’s continue:

“‘The return of red, the return of heroes, and the return of blood. Therefore, we need to control all cultural chaos and build a lively, healthy, masculine, strong, and people-oriented culture. We need to crack down on the chaos of big capital manipulation, platform monopoly, and bad money driving out good money in the capital market. Guide the flow of funds to entity enterprises, to high-tech enterprises, and to the manufacturing industry.

ENGLISH-LEARNING APPS BEING SHUT DOWN

“The next part he’s talking about the chaos in the education industry and how it has to basically be reformed, so that it’s ‘fair’ for the people. (Sarcastically) That’s why we’re seeing all the training centers being shut down; apps, like Duolingo, other English-learning apps being shut down.

“You know, it’s not being shut down out of fairness, okay? For parents, when it comes to teaching their children – because parents want their children to learn – it’s their own choice that’s being shut down, because they don’t want Western influence to creep in through the English language, which is something that has been happening for years and years.

“Because, when you learn English you tend to learn Western culture at the same time…Anyone who’s learned Chinese, you learn Chinese poems, you learn about ancient Chinese history, things like that and the same thing goes with English. When you learn English you learn about the culture, you get some of the influence – and the Chinese Communist Party is deadly afraid of this.

“The piece continues,

“‘The current efforts to rectify the entertainment, art, and film and television circles are far from enough. We must use all means to combat the various star-chasing and fan-chasing phenomena that exist in the current society. Completely put an end to the phenomenon of nymphomaniacs and small fresh meat in the social character…

“Shaoxin ro, ‘little fresh meat’…I’ve got to explain that one to you. A ‘little fresh meat’ is what people refer to those very feminine male stars in China. You know the ones I’m talking about. Very very white skin, very delicate features, you know, very prissy. You know exactly what I’m talking about, kind of like Korean boy bands…

“So, they want to get rid of the this whole fan clout-chasing thing; doesn’t want people to worship nymphomaniacs and little fresh meats in society. So, he doesn’t want young people to aspire to be any of these kind of celebrities. That’s the gist of it, right?

“This last bit is, again quite worrying, because this is basically just Cultural Revolution stuff.” He says, “‘laborers and ordinary people will become the protagonists and masters of literature and art.'” So, it will be the ordinary man who’s going to be the protagonists, the stars. This is all that old Marxist garbage rhetoric that they’ve done in the past.

WILL WE REPLY TO THESE LIES?

“What I’m going to stress, once more is that while here, in the Western World, we are walking on eggshells, worried about being called a racist, because we say that the virus came from Wuhan – where it really did – China is putting out things like this, that are calling us the enemy; that are saying that we are not only conducting biological and cyber attack warfare against China and the Chinese people but we are an enemy of the Chinese people and Western values and ideas are an enemy of the Chinese people.

“And here we sit, worried that we’re going to be called a racist because we say factual statements. It has made us as a society in the West, incredibly weak and easy pickings for a very strong, steadfast government like the CCP, who allows opinions like this to go out in the biggest state media…

“They encourage people to consume this, because that is their end goal, if you hadn’t noticed. It is what’s being said in this particular document is exactly what the Chinese Communist Party has been doing, with all these changes: cracking down on the entertainment industry, cracking down on the tech industry and on business; capitalist billionaires and that are all fleeing or they’ve been locked up or what have you; the educational system where they’ve banned all foreign textbooks and are now banning for-profit training centers and even language exchange apps.

“This [press release], right here is factual. It’s not an opinion. So what are we doing, Rest-of-the-World? What are we doing when we allow China to badmouth us all like this, to our face, to 1.4 billion Chinese people?

“What are we doing? We show them nothing but respect. We worry about hurting their feelings – hurting the feelings of the Chinese people. It’s about time that this stops. It’s about time that we face this kind of insult head-on and we reply to things like this – not at all, directing any of our negative energy or grievances towards Chinese people but to the government that allows this sort of rhetoric to be blasted out. Maybe it is time for the rest of the world to wake up. Take this and give a proper reply to the CCP.”

[xidaijena]

Truth of China

sorry for the negative energy videos here. I delete the videos now.:o

To be honest, I still believe China will not fight with US.

If we fight, that will be like the Gragons will fight with Jesus.

I don't believe or hope it will happen. Chinese are not a fighting country. Normal people like me, we just need a simple and peaceful life.

Hope all of you can understand my Chinese heart.:coffee:

[onawah]

China's Three Gorges Dam hits 23-year high
Gene test linked to Chinese military sold to world
127,873 views Premiered Sep 7, 2021
4.9K

China in Focus - NTD
682K subscribers

"Nations are scrutinizing a Chinese-made genetics test. The test is used on pregnant women around the world. And the company that produces it has ties to the Chinese military.

When exactly did the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus outbreak begin in Wuhan? A top epidemiologist reveals he first heard about it back in mid-December 2019—two weeks before it was reported to the World Health Organization.

China's Three Gorges Dam sees a 23-year record high water level. Landslides strike China in at least three areas, destroying homes and killing several people along the way.

NATO voices concerns about China’s nuclear expansion.

And a European country no longer wants its ambassador in China. This comes after a disagreement with Beijing over Taiwan’s opening of a de-facto embassy.

00:00 Intro
00:54 Gene test linked to CCP army sold to world
02:21 Scientist: pandemic came weeks before warning
03:30 China's Three Gorges Dam hits 23-year high
04:27 Landslides destroyer homes in Southwest China
05:05 China clamps down on celebrities and fans
07:37 Chip crisis: Chinese auto production cut half
10:12 Bentley ex-design head jumps to Chinese Geely
11:36 Lithuania recalls its ambassador from China
13:27 NATO alarmed by China's nuclear expansion
14:45 Philippines admiral suggests joint military drill
16:12 UK orders review of graphene firm takeover
17:31 Chinese surveillance cameras in UK health dept.
19:07 Guinea coup sends metal prices soaring "

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[Bill Ryan]

China's Three Gorges Dam hits 23-year high


Two more references, 4 days ago and 1 day ago respectively:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsT80LUKSIE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LxDKwDFPq4

[onawah]

Big Multinational Companies Leave China, Millions of Jobs Disappearing
109,166 views 9/17/21
4.1K
China Observer
135K subscribers

"Ningbo Samsung Heavy Industries is located in Ningbo City, Zhejiang Province. Recently it announced its withdrawal due to a unilateral land recall by the local government. Since September 8th, thousands of employees have gathered in the factory holding banners to protest. In the video, we can see some employees pouring into the administration building, shouting "I need food". The banners read: "Youth, ideals, blood, sweat, and tears were all spilt here!" "We’re grateful to Samsung, don't give up, don't abandon us, we have children to support". From this, it’s obvious they don’t want Samsung to leave.
Many employees even protested at night. They slept on the floors in the administration building or outside on the lawn. The latest news is that tens of thousands of employees and their families are participating in the protest. However, many videos and pictures related to the protest on social media of mainland China have been removed.
They also have another important appeal, they hope that the company will offer 3N compensation for termination of the employment agreement, that is, they want to be compensated by three months' salary for each year of employment.
In recent years, under the anti-Japan, anti-South Korea, anti-Europe and anti-U.S. trends instigated by the CCP, news of Samsung’s withdrawal from China has continued to spread. Since Samsung Electronics officially entered Vietnam in 2012, Samsung Electronics Shenzhen closed and withdrew in 2018; in 2019 Samsung closed its last cell phone factory in Huizhou; and in 2020 Samsung's last computer factory in China, the laptop production line of Suzhou Samsung Electronics Computer moved out of China, keeping only its R&D department. After closing Samsung Heavy Industries in Ningbo this year, Samsung will close its last TV factory in Tianjin in November, and withdraw from communist China completely.
Let’s take a look at what the Chinese government has done over the years: vilifying foreign companies’ products, and establishing party branches in them. Those who do not build party branches are forced to leave. Using official media to incite patriotism, inciting the public to smash foreign-brand stores and burn their products. This is what happened when they boycotted Uniqlo and Nike. When they did so, did they consider how many people would lose their jobs?
Under the influence of the CCP’s propaganda, and facing the withdrawal of foreign companies like Samsung, most people in the lower social class are completely indifferent, as if these leaving companies are all losers, since leaving China means leaving their biggest market.
In fact, the importance of foreign companies to China's economy is not what they imagined. There are more than 20,000 foreign companies in Guangzhou, the output value from these companies account for 62% of the city’s total industrial output value from enterprises; in Shanghai, where giant state-owned enterprises gather, foreign companies contribute 2/3 of the city’s total import and export and total industrial output value; in Suzhou, an important industrial town in the Yangtze River Delta, the output value of foreign based companies account for 67.8% of the total; in Xiamen, foreign companies contribute 70% of the industrial output value. And in Shenzhen, the bridgehead to the outside, this proportion is already over 70%.
Foreign companies have brought about 40 million direct jobs to China, and if we include other companies in the industrial chain, the total number of jobs created is over 100 million. With so many people relying on foreign companies for their livelihood, it is hard to understand that the CCP is still inciting the public to hate foreign companies.
Only those employees, who lost their jobs, can really feel the pain, most of them are the backbone of their families. They have bought houses and cars with high-income from foreign companies. Once they lose their jobs, what awaits them is not only the huge pressure of supporting their families, but also the heavy amount of debt. "WYqKUEGEeuc

296 Million Cubic Meters Reservoir Spillway Destroyed by Flood, Reasons Behind Tofu Dreg Projects
113,868 views Premiered Sep 6, 2021
China Observer
135K subscribers

"On September 1st, due to heavy rainfall and upstream flooding, the end of the spillway of Eping Hydropower Station was destroyed, the washout pit has an area of about 1500 square meters with a maximum depth of 15m. The retaining wall on the right bank of the spillway collapsed and caved in. This Hydropower station is located in Zhuxi County, Hubei Province.
To avoid danger, the local government immediately organized emergency repairs. At the same time, a total of 5456 people from 15 villages downstream were transferred.
The Reservoir has a total storage capacity of 296 million cubic meters.
Eping Hydropower Station is located upstream of the Duhe River, and about 70km downstream is Pankou Hydropower Station, whose reservoir covers a water area of 61 square kilometers with a total storage capacity of 2.34 billion cubic meters.
About 87km downstream from the Pankou Reservoir, the Duhe River joins the Hanjiang River in Yunyang District of Shiyan City, and 120km downstream from there is the Danjiangkou Reservoir, which has a water area of over 1,000 square kilometers with a storage capacity of 29.05 billion cubic meters. The Danjiangkou Reservoir is also the water source of the Central Line for the South-North Water Transfer Project.
Eping Reservoir and Pankou Reservoir are located in the Daba Mountains. Both sides of the rivers are steep, and the riverbeds have a large drop along with the water flow. Once the dam of Eping Reservoir collapses, the water is bound to rush rapidly downstream to Pankou Reservoir. If the Pankou dam breaks, more than 2 billion cubic meters of water will continue downstream to the Danjiangkou Reservoir, and if that breaks, more than 30 billion cubic meters of water will cause enormous damage to the downstream cities of Lao-he-kou, Xiangyang, Jingzhou, and Wuhan. Even people living in the other areas along the downstream of Yangtze River will be affected. This effect is known as the “dam-break domino effect”, or simply “snowball effect”.
On May 31, 2011, Eping was officially connected to the grid for power generation, which marked the completion of the main project of the Hydropower Station.
Here comes the question. The Eping Hydropower Station has only been in operation for 15 years. How did the spillway get destroyed, and the retaining wall on the right bank collapse? Is this another typical tofu dreg project of China?"
-Gav_VFYJcs


Why People Live in Unfinished Buildings (Rotten Ended Buildings) in China
277,378 viewsPremiered Jun 22, 2021
4.6K
China Observer
135K subscribers

"In China, the phenomenon of rotten-ended buildings has been widespread for many years and is related to the reform of China's housing system.
On July 3, 1998, the Chinese State Council issued The Notice on Further Reform of the Urban Housing System and Speeding up Housing Development. It clarified the direction of marketization, monetization, and commercialization reform of urban housing and initiated a thorough reform of the housing system. It ended the "physical distribution of housing" and implemented monetization of housing allocation, creating a housing supply system based on market supply.
Since then, the real estate sector has become one of the key drivers of China's rapid economic growth.
Zhang Dawei, the chief analyst of Centaline Property, said that the various quality and delivery problems in the real estate market are basically all related to the pre-sale system.
The presale ratio of houses in major cities in China is generally above 80%, and in some cities, it is even above 90%.
This presale system allows small businesses with little capital strength to become real estate developers. As long as they pay the government for the land and have a little money to start the project, they can start collecting money from the pre-sales, and at the same time they can take out a loan for the project.
For the Chinese Communist government, as long as they get the money from land sales, it’s not a big concern as to whether the project will ultimately be completed or not. So in the construction of real estate projects, there are situations where developers go bankrupt or simply run away with the money, leaving the projects to rot. In fact, no matter the reason for the real estate project failures, the loss ultimately falls on the buyer (general public) in the end. "X3BMIKh65Ec


(These huge projects in China seem to almost invariably result in huge problems.)

[Michel Leclerc]

Dear Onawah, thank you for the post, which entices me to pen something after five years of silence on Avalon, a Forum that is important to me.
Forgive me, but I am under the impression that even the alternative media in the United States feel it is necessary to state only “bad things” about China, the way they used to do, but do to a letter extent now, about “Islamia”. This need is puzzling to me, who am not American, not Anglo-Saxon, yet an admirer of the great philosophers, writers, poets, artists and musicians who flourished in English-language civilisation.
Don’t you think that the publication of these statements, this mixed bag of statements, may profit from a little introduction and/or qualification?
I do not feel enthused by the idea that the English-language “entertainment industry” should in any way need to be defended against “Chinese culture”, especially not in China itself. I tend to consider the latter to be immensely more valuable than the first.
I also think that the writings of Henry David Thoreau are immensely more valuable than the thoughts of Chairman Mao.
Let us agree that the pursuit of the highest values is something to be defended at all times. Entertainment does not belong to these values, Joy does. And yes, entertainment can at times add to that Joy. But then again Joy wants “organic” values, not the industrial variety.

[Michel Leclerc]

Dear Onawah,
I see that you have posted a few more of those interesting contributions about China. I will read them soon.
My posting only concerned your post nr. 208.
Thank you.

[onawah]

Hello Michel and welcome back to the forum.
As to post #208, all I did there was copy and paste a review of and commentary from a man who has spent quite a few years traveling, studying and living in China.
I did not post any of my own views there, but I have watched quite a few of his videos about his experiences in China, and I think his views are worthy of consideration.
It's difficult to get any credible news about China because the CCP is so censorious, so I have limited the info I post here to the few sources I have found which I consider to be credible, and I don't consider that to be "entertainment" at all.
I have never been to China, and as far as my interest in Chinese culture goes, it's fairly limited.
I practiced Zen in my younger years, studied the I Ching and I am a fan of acupuncture and the classic Chinese medicine, but as for modern China, I am not a fan of the CCP.
I am concerned about the non-humane values of Communism as it is practiced in general and how the CCP in particular is affecting the rest of the world, as well as the citizens of China.
The Far Left in the US is being influenced by the CCP, which is putting our human rights globally in jeopardy, so I think the Left would be well advised to take a closer look at the lot of the Chinese citizenry.
I am especially concerned about the 3 Gorges Dam, which seems to be in fairly imminent danger of collapse, a catastrophe which will have dire consequences, and not just locally.
I hope that that answers your question.

Perhaps I should add that I don't consider the CCP to be the only source of danger when it comes to the elimination of human rights.
It appears to share many goals with what is known as the Deep State, the cabal, the elite, etc. made up of individuals from all over the world who share common goals of world domination, depopulation, etc. and which I also think are being influenced by off-world entities (which are using them all as pawns).
Not that they are united, rather they are in competition for control and resources.



Dear Onawah,
I see that you have posted a few more of those interesting contributions about China. I will read them soon.
My posting only concerned your post nr. 208.
Thank you.

[xidaijena]

Hello Michel and welcome back to the forum.
As to post #208, all I did there was copy and paste a review of and commentary from a man who has spent quite a few years traveling, studying and living in China.
I did not post any of my own views there, but I have watched quite a few of his videos about his experiences in China, and I think his views are worthy of consideration.
It's difficult to get any credible news about China because the CCP is so censorious, so I have limited the info I post here to the few sources I have found which I consider to be credible, and I don't consider that to be "entertainment" at all.
I have never been to China, and as far as my interest in Chinese culture goes, it's fairly limited.
I practiced Zen in my younger years, studied the I Ching and I am a fan of acupuncture and the classic Chinese medicine, but as for modern China, I am not a fan of the CCP.
I am concerned about the non-humane values of Communism as it is practiced in general and how the CCP in particular is affecting the rest of the world, as well as the citizens of China.
The Far Left in the US is being influenced by the CCP, which is putting our human rights globally in jeopardy, so I think the Left would be well advised to take a closer look at the lot of the Chinese citizenry.
I am especially concerned about the 3 Gorges Dam, which seems to be in fairly imminent danger of collapse, a catastrophe which will have dire consequences, and not just locally.
I hope that that answers your question.

Perhaps I should add that I don't consider the CCP to be the only source of danger when it comes to the elimination of human rights.
It appears to share many goals with what is known as the Deep State, the cabal, the elite, etc. made up of individuals from all over the world who share common goals of world domination, depopulation, etc. and which I also think are being influenced by off-world entities (which are using them all as pawns).
Not that they are united, rather they are in competition for control and resources.



To be honest, it shocked me when seeing the post about Zhejiang Province. I don't know what happened to them and the true reason behind them.

But these days, my aunt from Zhejiang Province came to my home to take good care of my mother. When she arrived at my home, there would be a weather report about Level 12 strong winds and heavy rains in Zhejiang Province. Is it an accident?
I pray for those poor souls.

I think China treats Lifechanyuan bad and from the posts your sharings, I can tell there are many bad souls doing bad things in China.

But plz remember, not every country is perfect.

What we can do is just acting a normal but spiritual citizen.

May Peace be with those poor souls from Jesus and the Greatest Creator.

May they have some wisdom to know the meaning of life from Buddha's teachings.

Jena

[onawah]

On Avalon, we don't just focus on any one source of evil in the world today, and we search hard for and look closely at the credible news, so as to to decipher accurately what is really happening behind the scenes.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71+N5SLFcXL._AC_SL1480_.jpg

Not the mainstream news propaganda that the globalists prefer that we believe (and they are meddling in every country).

Many of us here have been doing that for a long time, and have gotten pretty good at it.

You might want to read back further in this thread to find out more of what is going on in China that is generally hidden from the Chinese people.

Although, as I have written before, it's especially difficult to find credible information about China because the Chinese Communist Party censors the news so heavily.

And it may be perilous for someone inside of China to post information on the Internet that is not favorable to the CCP, as they are reportedly doing a lot of monitoring to make sure that their own citizens aren't blowing the whistle on them.

It may also be difficult to know just what they might take "personally" as criticism.

I'm sure we Avalonians wish you well and hope you can fulfill your dream of visiting other communities around the world.

But the way things are going now, that may become increasingly difficult, especially if you are already considered a dissident.

Just a word of caution...:sad:

...Though I wouldn't want to discourage you either from speaking truth. :nod:

But whistleblowers have to be careful as well as courageous if they want to survive.




To be honest, it shocked me when seeing the post about Zhejiang Province. I don't know what happened to them and the true reason behind them.

But these days, my aunt from Zhejiang Province came to my home to take good care of my mother. When she arrived at my home, there would be a weather report about Level 12 strong winds and heavy rains in Zhejiang Province. Is it an accident?
I pray for those poor souls.

I think China treats Lifechanyuan bad and from the posts your sharings, I can tell there are many bad souls doing bad things in China.

But plz remember, not every country is perfect.

What we can do is just acting a normal but spiritual citizen.

May Peace be with those poor souls from Jesus and the Greatest Creator.

May they have some wisdom to know the meaning of life from Buddha's teachings.

Jena

[Bill Ryan]

A personal observation: news from (or about) China is pretty important in today's world. I follow this thread too, and I've grown to understand that there's a huge range of quality, sensationalism and accuracy among the many YouTube channels that comment on events in China.

For sure, some channels are pretty awful and are well worth ignoring. But for me (from what I can figure out!), China Observer (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT2kPBcD6tXn8TP_aV7BmgA/videos) is one of the most grounded, intelligent and reliable.

:focus:

[xidaijena]

Thank onawah and Bill for kindly telling me the truth about the reality of the world and China.

I will keep an eye to see China Observer channel.

It's okay for me.

Though I am not a chanyuan celestial of Lifechanyuan, I do follow its values that we will not discuss any politics about China and any other country or say any rude words to be against Xi.

So, I am not in danger, I am just a normal person.

I will make my dream come true only if the Greatest Creator let me be alive and live as longer as I want.;)

Anyway, thank you for telling what Avalon members have done. I will learn more about it.:coffee::coffee::coffee:

Jena

[Chester]

Truth of China

sorry for the negative energy videos here. I delete the videos now.:o

To be honest, I still believe China will not fight with US.

If we fight, that will be like the Gragons will fight with Jesus.

I don't believe or hope it will happen. Chinese are not a fighting country. Normal people like me, we just need a simple and peaceful life.

Hope all of you can understand my Chinese heart.:coffee:

I agree with you.

[xidaijena]

Truth of China

sorry for the negative energy videos here. I delete the videos now.:o

To be honest, I still believe China will not fight with US.

If we fight, that will be like the Gragons will fight with Jesus.

I don't believe or hope it will happen. Chinese are not a fighting country. Normal people like me, we just need a simple and peaceful life.

Hope all of you can understand my Chinese heart.:coffee:

I agree with you.

Hi Merlyn,

I believe you are also a peaceful person right?

I check your blog and saw you.

Your story is warm.

I also have a blogger, but only spread values.:bigsmile:

Have a nice night.:handshake:

Jena

[onawah]

Big Multinational Companies Leave China, Millions of Jobs Disappearing
563,804 viewsPremiered
Sep 16, 2021
12K
China Observer
140K subscribers

"Ningbo Samsung Heavy Industries is located in Ningbo City, Zhejiang Province. Recently it announced its withdrawal due to a unilateral land recall by the local government. Since September 8th, thousands of employees have gathered in the factory holding banners to protest. In the video, we can see some employees pouring into the administration building, shouting "I need food". The banners read: "Youth, ideals, blood, sweat, and tears were all spilt here!" "We’re grateful to Samsung, don't give up, don't abandon us, we have children to support". From this, it’s obvious they don’t want Samsung to leave.
Many employees even protested at night. They slept on the floors in the administration building or outside on the lawn. The latest news is that tens of thousands of employees and their families are participating in the protest. However, many videos and pictures related to the protest on social media of mainland China have been removed.
They also have another important appeal, they hope that the company will offer 3N compensation for termination of the employment agreement, that is, they want to be compensated by three months' salary for each year of employment.
In recent years, under the anti-Japan, anti-South Korea, anti-Europe and anti-U.S. trends instigated by the CCP, news of Samsung’s withdrawal from China has continued to spread. Since Samsung Electronics officially entered Vietnam in 2012, Samsung Electronics Shenzhen closed and withdrew in 2018; in 2019 Samsung closed its last cell phone factory in Huizhou; and in 2020 Samsung's last computer factory in China, the laptop production line of Suzhou Samsung Electronics Computer moved out of China, keeping only its R&D department. After closing Samsung Heavy Industries in Ningbo this year, Samsung will close its last TV factory in Tianjin in November, and withdraw from communist China completely.
Let’s take a look at what the Chinese government has done over the years: vilifying foreign companies’ products, and establishing party branches in them. Those who do not build party branches are forced to leave. Using official media to incite patriotism, inciting the public to smash foreign-brand stores and burn their products. This is what happened when they boycotted Uniqlo and Nike. When they did so, did they consider how many people would lose their jobs?
Under the influence of the CCP’s propaganda, and facing the withdrawal of foreign companies like Samsung, most people in the lower social class are completely indifferent, as if these leaving companies are all losers, since leaving China means leaving their biggest market.
In fact, the importance of foreign companies to China's economy is not what they imagined. There are more than 20,000 foreign companies in Guangzhou, the output value from these companies account for 62% of the city’s total industrial output value from enterprises; in Shanghai, where giant state-owned enterprises gather, foreign companies contribute 2/3 of the city’s total import and export and total industrial output value; in Suzhou, an important industrial town in the Yangtze River Delta, the output value of foreign based companies account for 67.8% of the total; in Xiamen, foreign companies contribute 70% of the industrial output value. And in Shenzhen, the bridgehead to the outside, this proportion is already over 70%.
Foreign companies have brought about 40 million direct jobs to China, and if we include other companies in the industrial chain, the total number of jobs created is over 100 million. With so many people relying on foreign companies for their livelihood, it is hard to understand that the CCP is still inciting the public to hate foreign companies.
Only those employees, who lost their jobs, can really feel the pain, most of them are the backbone of their families. They have bought houses and cars with high-income from foreign companies. Once they lose their jobs, what awaits them is not only the huge pressure of supporting their families, but also the heavy amount of debt. "WYqKUEGEeuc

[xidaijena]

Big Multinational Companies Leave China, Millions of Jobs Disappearing
563,804 viewsPremiered
Sep 16, 2021
12K
China Observer
140K subscribers

"Ningbo Samsung Heavy Industries is located in Ningbo City, Zhejiang Province. Recently it announced its withdrawal due to a unilateral land recall by the local government. Since September 8th, thousands of employees have gathered in the factory holding banners to protest. In the video, we can see some employees pouring into the administration building, shouting "I need food". The banners read: "Youth, ideals, blood, sweat, and tears were all spilt here!" "We’re grateful to Samsung, don't give up, don't abandon us, we have children to support". From this, it’s obvious they don’t want Samsung to leave.
Many employees even protested at night. They slept on the floors in the administration building or outside on the lawn. The latest news is that tens of thousands of employees and their families are participating in the protest. However, many videos and pictures related to the protest on social media of mainland China have been removed.
They also have another important appeal, they hope that the company will offer 3N compensation for termination of the employment agreement, that is, they want to be compensated by three months' salary for each year of employment.
In recent years, under the anti-Japan, anti-South Korea, anti-Europe and anti-U.S. trends instigated by the CCP, news of Samsung’s withdrawal from China has continued to spread. Since Samsung Electronics officially entered Vietnam in 2012, Samsung Electronics Shenzhen closed and withdrew in 2018; in 2019 Samsung closed its last cell phone factory in Huizhou; and in 2020 Samsung's last computer factory in China, the laptop production line of Suzhou Samsung Electronics Computer moved out of China, keeping only its R&D department. After closing Samsung Heavy Industries in Ningbo this year, Samsung will close its last TV factory in Tianjin in November, and withdraw from communist China completely.
Let’s take a look at what the Chinese government has done over the years: vilifying foreign companies’ products, and establishing party branches in them. Those who do not build party branches are forced to leave. Using official media to incite patriotism, inciting the public to smash foreign-brand stores and burn their products. This is what happened when they boycotted Uniqlo and Nike. When they did so, did they consider how many people would lose their jobs?
Under the influence of the CCP’s propaganda, and facing the withdrawal of foreign companies like Samsung, most people in the lower social class are completely indifferent, as if these leaving companies are all losers, since leaving China means leaving their biggest market.
In fact, the importance of foreign companies to China's economy is not what they imagined. There are more than 20,000 foreign companies in Guangzhou, the output value from these companies account for 62% of the city’s total industrial output value from enterprises; in Shanghai, where giant state-owned enterprises gather, foreign companies contribute 2/3 of the city’s total import and export and total industrial output value; in Suzhou, an important industrial town in the Yangtze River Delta, the output value of foreign based companies account for 67.8% of the total; in Xiamen, foreign companies contribute 70% of the industrial output value. And in Shenzhen, the bridgehead to the outside, this proportion is already over 70%.
Foreign companies have brought about 40 million direct jobs to China, and if we include other companies in the industrial chain, the total number of jobs created is over 100 million. With so many people relying on foreign companies for their livelihood, it is hard to understand that the CCP is still inciting the public to hate foreign companies.
Only those employees, who lost their jobs, can really feel the pain, most of them are the backbone of their families. They have bought houses and cars with high-income from foreign companies. Once they lose their jobs, what awaits them is not only the huge pressure of supporting their families, but also the heavy amount of debt. "WYqKUEGEeuc

“They have bought houses and cars with high-income from foreign companies. Once they lose their jobs, what awaits them is not only the huge pressure of supporting their families, but also the heavy amount of debt. "

It is very realistic.

They thought they can get high salaries from the company, so they choose to buy house and cars with debt of bank. And they like marraige and then have more babies. It is Satan's programme.

Money is the powerful thing. They treat it as NO.1.

So when the company failed, they lost Money but they forget: it is their own karma to choose this way.

Choose God or Money, we need to think it very very carefully.

No roads are easy to go.

Even Jesus, he still needed to die for human beings.

Buddha is also giving up his weath, family, wife, son.

I can only pray but just hope they can find truth about God or know the wisdom from Lifechanyuan.

[onawah]

You might find this of interest: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71164-Clif-High-s-videos----now--2021--in-the-year-Woo&p=1453769&viewfull=1#post1453769
You would probably have to review some of Clif High's other videos to understand his process of predicting future events, but that particular one focuses quite a bit on China.
The amount of flooding causing infrastructure collapse (and the poor quality of the infrastructure itself) in China is putting much industry and farming there in jeopardy, according to the credible reports that manage to escape the heavy censorship of the CCP.
Particularly if the 3 Gorges Dam fails, which seems likely at some point.
That will cause a huge crisis not only in China, but in many countries which have come to rely on the factories there for all kinds of goods.
That potential likely also has something to do with the number of businesses that are leaving China now.




“They have bought houses and cars with high-income from foreign companies. Once they lose their jobs, what awaits them is not only the huge pressure of supporting their families, but also the heavy amount of debt. "

[xidaijena]

You might find this of interest: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71164-Clif-High-s-videos----now--2021--in-the-year-Woo&p=1453769&viewfull=1#post1453769
You would probably have to review some of Clif High's other videos to understand his process of predicting future events, but that particular one focuses quite a bit on China.
The amount of flooding causing infrastructure collapse (and the poor quality of the infrastructure itself) in China is putting much industry and farming there in jeopardy, according to the credible reports that manage to escape the heavy censorship of the CCP.
Particularly if the 3 Gorges Dam fails, which seems likely at some point.
That will cause a huge crisis not only in China, but in many countries which have come to rely on the factories there for all kinds of goods.
That potential likely also has something to do with the number of businesses that are leaving China now.




“They have bought houses and cars with high-income from foreign companies. Once they lose their jobs, what awaits them is not only the huge pressure of supporting their families, but also the heavy amount of debt. "



The video is slow, I will check it when I have time.

China, I am not a man, to be honest, I know little about your sharings.

Maybe I am so ordinary that I only care spirituality.

If China was broken, I think, the whole world will be in great danger too.

That's it.

Anyway, thank you again.

Hope the change will not scare me and my family.

Even if it happens, I can only stay with my family and pray to Creator.

[Dubsy]

I by no means wish to seem allied with the 'enemy' , yet cannot resist playing devils advocate here.

The 3 gorges dam is a done deal - it will fail at some future, as it was mired in corruption and hastily built with substandard material to try prove a point to the people of China that they have entered a rather more symbiotic equality with the rest of the world.

To say all infrastructure in China is substandard simply is not true.

The rail network with fast trains connecting all major cities is in my opinion the best in the world ( I'm a traveled guy ) and not expensive.
I can travel first class on an aircraft between cities cheaper than I can by train from London to Scotland in the UK.
The US and European train stations and airports are far behind the relaxed feeling I get in China when I feel the need to travel.

Maybe it's because Chinese people feel safe when traveling..? as Asian countries are not so worried about being attacked by 'terrorist's - because they have very strict border controls and do not take in 'refugees'

But hey ..!! :idea: I would never point out that only white 'Christian' nations are expected to take in said 'refugees' and Asian countries are respected and given a 'pass' for wanting to protect their cultures .... that would be racist :sun:

I find it difficult to live in China on many levels, but this is where I am meant to be at this time, and I'm hardly suffering. By the grace of the piece of ground I was born on, I have the choice of returning.

Remember the many wonderful people here who have no choice .

[onawah]

If I seemed to imply that ALL infrastructure in China is substandard, it was not intentional.
However, there have certainly been shocking reports about much that IS substandard there, and this is one good source of such reports:
https://www.youtube.com/c/serpentza/playlists

From that channel see these examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eXi3RL8q4&t=464s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVm29u736D0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-2DtL-Wjkc

and from China Observer see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tbGaLTA4xk&t=447s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gav_VFYJcs&t=396s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q00nTSAcMhs

"The enemy" in our world today is the ignorance and spiritual turpitude that create greed, lust for power and control, and the propensity for fear and apathy that result.
The idea of superpowers vying for world domination doesn't really cover what mankind is facing today.
But it could certainly be used as an excuse to push the NWO agenda....
Furthermore, as former POTUS Ronald Reagan's famous speech emphasized, it might only take an ET attack on Earth for the superpowers to unite, but the question remains: which ETs.

Whistleblowers have assured us that there are many ET civilizations influencing governments, and different ones are influencing different governments.
And they don't all have humanity's welfare in mind.
Just as different factions of the world's elite are in competition with each other, though tyranny and privilege are their shared goals.

In countries like China the people have been traumatized into obedience by tyrannical government such as the CCP has created, and policies in effect there like the "social credit system" which have the elites champing at the bit to impose planetwide.

Of course, China is not the only country that has been victimized in that way, to some extent that exists everywhere, but China is certainly a huge, glaring example.
Also see:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115849-Disassociation-in-China&p=1454253&highlight=China%2C+dissonance#post1454253



I by no means wish to seem allied with the 'enemy' , yet cannot resist playing devils advocate here.

The 3 gorges dam is a done deal - it will fail at some future, as it was mired in corruption and hastily built with substandard material to try prove a point to the people of China that they have entered a rather more symbiotic equality with the rest of the world.

To say all infrastructure in China is substandard simply is not true.

The rail network with fast trains connecting all major cities is in my opinion the best in the world ( I'm a traveled guy ) and not expensive.
I can travel first class on an aircraft between cities cheaper than I can by train from London to Scotland in the UK.
The US and European train stations and airports are far behind the relaxed feeling I get in China when I feel the need to travel.

Maybe it's because Chinese people feel safe when traveling..? as Asian countries are not so worried about being attacked by 'terrorist's - because they have very strict border controls and do not take in 'refugees'

But hey ..!! :idea: I would never point out that only white 'Christian' nations are expected to take in said 'refugees' and Asian countries are respected and given a 'pass' for wanting to protect their cultures .... that would be racist :sun:

I find it difficult to live in China on many levels, but this is where I am meant to be at this time, and I'm hardly suffering. By the grace of the piece of ground I was born on, I have the choice of returning.

Remember the many wonderful people here who have no choice .

[Dubsy]

I absolutely agree, Onawah, and glad that you took my post as the slightly obtuse opposite to many of the posts here :happythumbsup:

I too feel that China is the 'beta test' for what's going to be implemented in nations across the world.

I've actually met Serpentza in Shenzhen a few times. He's the real deal along with his partner, and a very nice guy.
I have to tread a little carefully here, but happy you are drawing members attention to his vids. There is no better commentary on the net if we're seeking a fair minded compassionate approach, without the full on attack dog mentality of many youtubers.

The brainwashing is intense here and getting worse by the day, yet it's good to note that some do see through it.

A friend of mine who has travelled outside and who is very awake to everything happening around him, once gave me this rather stoic example.

I paraphrase -- The restaurants are always busy and affordable ( the Chinese live on their stomachs ) transportation is always clean and inexpensive. We have beautiful natural areas Crime is low. My girlfriend can take a shortcut home from work through the park at night without fear. We have a strong family structure and respect our elders. We can own our own homes and work to buy nice things if that is what we want .... In fact, if we forget that we are living under totalitarianism, keep our noses clean, do not challenge, and imagine that we are 'free' -- It would seem like the kind of utopia that you western people all strive for :bigsmile:

[onawah]

Why China is facing the worsening electricity shortage now
It severely impacts the economy
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"Although the peak of electricity consumption in summer has passed, many parts of China still experience shortages. Such prolonged power shortages have dealt a heavy blow to the economy.
There are deep systematic conflicts between the coal and electricity industries.
There is a significant gap between Indonesian coal and Russian coal and high-quality Australian coal, and many Chinese coastal power plants have converted their generating units to be suitable for use with Australian coal."
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( China's reliance on hydroelectric power has not been very successful, and coal is in increasing demand.
Which is in conflict with the CCP's promise to become carbon neutral by 2060, and their aggressive stance towards Australia, as Australian coal had been heavily relied upon until China boycotted Australian imports.
The CCP's stated desire to annex Taiwan is heating up the conflict, as is its' threats against Australia because of their plans to acquire nuclear submarines. )

China's reaction to AUKUS alliance 'almost theatrical'
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"China's reaction to the new AUKUS alliance and Australia's nuclear submarine deal has been "so predictable" that it's "almost theatrical," according to Sky News host Chris Kenny.

On Thursday, Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United States announced a new trilateral strategic alliance.

The alliance will see Australia acquire a fleet of nuclear-powered submarines.

The news has been met with criticism by Chinese media, and has been labelled as "clear provocation" of Beijing and a "military threat".

Mr Kenny said this response is "hysterical"."

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[xidaijena]

If I seemed to imply that ALL infrastructure in China is substandard, it was not intentional.
However, there have certainly been shocking reports about much that IS substandard there, and this is one good source of such reports:
https://www.youtube.com/c/serpentza/playlists

From that channel see these examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eXi3RL8q4&t=464s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVm29u736D0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-2DtL-Wjkc

and from China Observer see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tbGaLTA4xk&t=447s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gav_VFYJcs&t=396s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q00nTSAcMhs

"The enemy" in our world today is the ignorance and spiritual turpitude that create greed, lust for power and control, and the propensity for fear and apathy that result.
The idea of superpowers vying for world domination doesn't really cover what mankind is facing today.
But it could certainly be used as an excuse to push the NWO agenda....
Furthermore, as former POTUS Ronald Reagan's famous speech emphasized, it might only take an ET attack on Earth for the superpowers to unite, but the question remains: which ETs.

Whistleblowers have assured us that there are many ET civilizations influencing governments, and different ones are influencing different governments.
And they don't all have humanity's welfare in mind.
Just as different factions of the world's elite are in competition with each other, though tyranny and privilege are their shared goals.

In countries like China the people have been traumatized into obedience by tyrannical government such as the CCP has created, and policies in effect there like the "social credit system" which have the elites champing at the bit to impose planetwide.

Of course, China is not the only country that has been victimized in that way, to some extent that exists everywhere, but China is certainly a huge, glaring example.
Also see:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115849-Disassociation-in-China&p=1454253&highlight=China%2C+dissonance#post1454253




Hi onawah,

Sorry to reply you late.

I am busy with my job these days, so I didn't check your post here.

I do agree with Dubsy somehow(in some ways).


I paraphrase -- The restaurants are always busy and affordable ( the Chinese live on their stomachs ) transportation is always clean and inexpensive. We have beautiful natural areas Crime is low. My girlfriend can take a shortcut home from work through the park at night without fear. We have a strong family structure and respect our elders. We can own our own homes and work to buy nice things if that is what we want .... In fact, if we forget that we are living under totalitarianism, keep our noses clean, do not challenge, and imagine that we are 'free' -- It would seem like the kind of utopia that you western people all strive for

He is right and very good person in China.

But I do have different dream. I like "the kind of utopia that you western people all strive for", it is my passion.


In countries like China the people have been traumatized into obedience by tyrannical government such as the CCP has created, and policies in effect there like the "social credit system" which have the elites champing at the bit to impose planetwide.

Well, I tell you that, I am an ordinary person and I am still in China and I was a member of Lifechanyuan, I have to respect China even though I don't like the life programme around me.

I have some nice Chinese sisters to support me in spirituality now. I feel grateful.

Yes, you are right. I like spirituality in Avalon, but I also care about China.

Hope you can understand my attention to this thread.

[onawah]

Xidaijena, I don't think anything that has been posted on the Turmoil in China thread is disrespectful of China, if by that you mean the Chinese people.

It is the CCP that so many people have a problem with, and for good reason, because of the way that handful of corrupt and power-hungry despots oppress the rest of the nation.

But life in the so-called "free world" is becoming less and less free by the minute (and is certainly no utopia), because those despots in power here are also trying to create a world-wide system in which there is no freedom, except for those in power.

China is in the lead in that regard, and so we watch so we can recognize the same process that is happening here for what it it, that which has already been happening in China for a longer time.

When you look beneath the veil in the US and other Western nations there is a lot of ugliness that you wouldn't like, any more than you like the ugliness in China.

You lashed out at me in your post when I revealed some of the ugliness that surrounds Disney.
But you should understand that Disney is a big part of a huge network of child sex abuse and trafficking.

Hollywood, where movies are made, is a hotbed of sexual abuse for women and children.
Many actresses and child actors (including Disney stars) have come forward with confessions about all the abuse they have endured at the hands of their employers in the movie industry.

If you want to focus on beautiful things and avoid looking at the dark side of reality on Earth, that's fine, but Avalon is about much more, and you will find yourself in conflict with others on Avalon if you cannot accept that.
We do that in order to bring the darkness to light, not to glorify the darkness.
There is a famous saying: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

I think it is brave of you to have criticized things you see that are wrong in China, knowing how the CCP censors and punishes those who cast them in a bad light.
You must understand that we also must criticize the evil and corruption that we know is worldwide--otherwise it will go unchallenged.

And please note: when answering to something that an Avalon member has sent you in a Private Message, it is not always inappropriate to reply to that in a public post on a thread.
It's better to reply to a Private Message with a Private Message.
There is a rule against quoting something in a post that another member has written to you in a Private Message.
And attacking another member in a post can result in you being put "on vacation" at best, or unsubscribed from the forum at worst.

Take good care,
Onawah

[xidaijena]

Xidaijena, I don't think anything that has been posted on the Turmoil in China thread is disrespectful of China, if by that you mean the Chinese people.

It is the CCP that so many people have a problem with, and for good reason, because of the way that handful of corrupt and power-hungry despots oppress the rest of the nation.

But life in the so-called "free world" is becoming less and less free by the minute (and is certainly no utopia), because those despots in power here are also trying to create a world-wide system in which there is no freedom, except for those in power.

China is in the lead in that regard, and so we watch so we can recognize the same process that is happening here for what it it, that which has already been happening in China for a longer time.

When you look beneath the veil in the US and other Western nations there is a lot of ugliness that you wouldn't like, any more than you like the ugliness in China.

You lashed out at me in your post when I revealed some of the ugliness that surrounds Disney.
But you should understand that Disney is a big part of a huge network of child sex abuse and trafficking.

Hollywood, where movies are made, is a hotbed of sexual abuse for women and children.
Many actresses and child actors (including Disney stars) have come forward with confessions about all the abuse they have endured at the hands of their employers in the movie industry.

If you want to focus on beautiful things and avoid looking at the dark side of reality on Earth, that's fine, but Avalon is about much more, and you will find yourself in conflict with others on Avalon if you cannot accept that.
We do that in order to bring the darkness to light, not to glorify the darkness.
There is a famous saying: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

I think it is brave of you to have criticized things you see that are wrong in China, knowing how the CCP censors and punishes those who cast them in a bad light.
You must understand that we also must criticize the evil and corruption that we know is worldwide--otherwise it will go unchallenged.

And please note: when answering to something that an Avalon member has sent you in a Private Message, it is not always inappropriate to reply to that in a public post on a thread.
It's better to reply to a Private Message with a Private Message.
There is a rule against quoting something in a post that another member has written to you in a Private Message.
And attacking another member in a post can result in you being put "on vacation" at best, or unsubscribed from the forum at worst.

Take good care,
Onawah

Thank you for your kind and long reply, Onawah.

I know what you mean in total.

But you shall know, as a chanyuan member, I was taught by the law of Karma and focusing on positive things.


“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

You think I did nothing to China and the world?

Then Why I came here?

Why I post my real pics and my true stories?

Doesn't it mean I want to be a light shining brightly in the darkness world?

I don't mean you didn't respect China. I only say myself.

You tell me the truth about Disney. But I also see my truth from the film about the heaven.

We are from different eyes or perspective to see one thing.

It is very normal. You are westerner man, I am Chinese lady.

I just post what I think.

When light shines brightly, you will see no dark.

But I know there is darkness exsiting. I will use the law of attraction to see more light.

Stop this topic.

You just do what you do, I will see then.

I will keep an eye and be quiet on this thread.

Good luck to you.

Remember, 覆巢之下，安有完卵.(When a bird's nest is overturned, no egg can remain intact.)

I don't like the war. Only my thinking.

Jena

[onawah]

Jena, in reply to:

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
You wrote:
"You think I did nothing to China and the world?"

You misunderstood again. I was not accusing you of doing nothing.
I was explaining why some of us do not ignore the evil that is being committed in our world, but shine a light on it, so that it may be cleansed and healed.
That is following the example of Jesus and Buddha and other spiritual leaders, who did not just focus on positive things, but brought the darkness to light.
In fact, I praised you for blowing the whistle on the man who misused you.
So why are you being so defensive?
Is it because you have suffered some hardship?
Haven't we all?
(I survived a near-death-experience when I was 24 years old, and was hit by a speeding hit-and-run drunk driver when I was trying to walk across a street.
I was hospitalized for 5 months with broken bones in all my limbs, and other serious injuries.
You can read something about my recovery here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31565-Angel-Spirit-Guide-Makes-Self-Known-in-Real-Life-Experience&p=321587&viewfull=1#post321587 )

But as I've pointed out before, this forum was created not just for spirituality, but also for "Conspiracy Theory"--the bringing to light secrets which have been hidden from the public, such as the existence of Extraterrestrials or the secret actions of governments and individuals that do not further the welfare of humanity or of planet Earth, and of horrible things such as Satanic practices, human trafficking, etc.

We do this on the forum not for "entertainment" or "thrills", but in hopes that others will wake up to the truth, and help to change the world for the better.
It's not an easy path, it's a kind of Karma Yoga, the Way of the Bodhisattva.
It's hard work, it can be revolting, nightmarish work!!
It's easier just to dwell on the positive!
But I think we strengthen ourselves by doing that work, and we help humanity to evolve by doing so.
Didn't you feel stronger after you exposed the man who abused you?

It's fine if you don't want to know about such things, but you cannot expect to criticize other Avalon members for focusing on such subjects so that we can help to bring about transformation...

For many of us, that's why we are here on Avalon, which is by far the best such forum on the internet, as far as I know.

I came to the first Avalon forum which was started years before this one, as still quite a naive person, and all I wanted to think about was positive things, too.
( Especially after I learned, to my profound disillusionment, more about what corruption can be hidden in seemingly spiritual groups, many of which are actually cults. )
But that changed over the years as I matured and opened my eyes more.
I think now that what we resist, persists, that we have to face the darkness, not hide from it.

You may not agree with what is expressed by others here, but you must be civil, according to the forum rules.
And since you have so much difficulty with the English language, I think you should be aware, before you hastily criticize what you think is offensive, that you may have greatly misunderstood what was being expressed, or why.

I also have studied the laws of karma, as have many in the West.
I lived in a Zen Center when I was in my 20s here in the US which was founded by a visiting Korean Zen Master, and master of the I Ching. I practiced with a Japanese Aikido Master in his classes for a time.
I have been a member of many spiritual and meditation groups since then which have focused on Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, Native American and Sufi teachings and found truth in all of them.
I have studied with some other wonderful spiritual teachers such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills
I moved from the East Coast to California in order to study with that man, and became a friend of his family (and nearly lost my life in the process, as that was when I had my near death experience, but I cannot say it wasn't worth it).
(The most supportive groups I have engaged with were women's spirituality groups, since women have particular problems living in this mostly patriarchal world.)

Such groups are not lacking in the West, and many members of Avalon are quite familiar with the teachings of Buddha as well as Jesus, and try to practice what they preached.
So you are not alone here in that way.

You wrote: "It is very normal. You are westerner man, I am Chinese lady."

No, I am not a man.
I am a 73 year old woman who has seen and experienced a lot, and have been an active member of this forum for over 11 years.
You can see my earlier photos here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116309-Then-and-now-how-the-years-have-aged--and-matured--us&p=1452855&viewfull=1#post1452855
And my profile page here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?310-onawah
Every Avalon member has a profile page where you can check t5o see their gender.


You wrote: "Stop this topic. I will keep an eye and be quiet on this thread."

Stop what topic?

You are welcome to post on this thread, as long as you are civil and obey the forum rules.
But if you aren't sure you have understood something, it would be better if you ask for clarification, instead of rushing to make a judgement.

You wrote:
"I don't like the war. Only my thinking."

No sane person likes war!!!
But humanity has been at war for ages, and is engaged in a war of another kind now, a genocidal war of values, a war which at the heart has a transhumanist agenda which threatens to change us into inhuman hybrids, and enslave all who survive it under the rule of the Illuminati.
If you look closely at this forum, you will see this is a subject that is occupying most of our attention, if you haven't already done so.
Hopefully, if we can look closely and find the reasons for such insane behavior, we can learn how to change it.
Many of us think that time may be coming soon, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

I did not ask you to change your thinking, but it might not hurt to expand it a bit.
And to please do others here the courtesy of allowing us to think as we see fit.

Perhaps you have come to this forum in order to learn, as well as share your message?
I hope so. Life is about learning, and I think you may find some good lessons here, if you take the time.

Take good care,
Natalie

[onawah]

Gravitas US Edition: China turns off traffic lights amid power crunch
281,153 views Sep 27, 2021
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"Hundreds of homes and factories in China are going dark amid a major power crunch. Some cities are turning off traffic lights to ration power. Why is China running out of energy? What does it mean for the world? Palki Sharma tells you."

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[xidaijena]

Jena, in reply to:

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
You wrote:
"You think I did nothing to China and the world?"

You misunderstood again. I was not accusing you of doing nothing.
I was explaining why some of us do not ignore the evil that is being committed in our world, but shine a light on it, so that it may be cleansed and healed.
That is following the example of Jesus and Buddha and other spiritual leaders, who did not just focus on positive things, but brought the darkness to light.
In fact, I praised you for blowing the whistle on the man who misused you.
So why are you being so defensive?
Is it because you have suffered some hardship?
Haven't we all?
(I survived a near-death-experience when I was 24 years old, and was hit by a speeding hit-and-run drunk driver when I was trying to walk across a street.
I was hospitalized for 5 months with broken bones in all my limbs, and other serious injuries.
You can read something about my recovery here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31565-Angel-Spirit-Guide-Makes-Self-Known-in-Real-Life-Experience&p=321587&viewfull=1#post321587 )

But as I've pointed out before, this forum was created not just for spirituality, but also for "Conspiracy Theory"--the bringing to light secrets which have been hidden from the public, such as the existence of Extraterrestrials or the secret actions of governments and individuals that do not further the welfare of humanity or of planet Earth, and of horrible things such as Satanic practices, human trafficking, etc.

We do this on the forum not for "entertainment" or "thrills", but in hopes that others will wake up to the truth, and help to change the world for the better.
It's not an easy path, it's a kind of Karma Yoga, the Way of the Bodhisattva.
It's hard work, it can be revolting, nightmarish work!!
It's easier just to dwell on the positive!
But I think we strengthen ourselves by doing that work, and we help humanity to evolve by doing so.
Didn't you feel stronger after you exposed the man who abused you?

It's fine if you don't want to know about such things, but you cannot expect to criticize other Avalon members for focusing on such subjects so that we can help to bring about transformation...

For many of us, that's why we are here on Avalon, which is by far the best such forum on the internet, as far as I know.

I came to the first Avalon forum which was started years before this one, as still quite a naive person, and all I wanted to think about was positive things, too.
( Especially after I learned, to my profound disillusionment, more about what corruption can be hidden in seemingly spiritual groups, many of which are actually cults. )
But that changed over the years as I matured and opened my eyes more.
I think now that what we resist, persists, that we have to face the darkness, not hide from it.

You may not agree with what is expressed by others here, but you must be civil, according to the forum rules.
And since you have so much difficulty with the English language, I think you should be aware, before you hastily criticize what you think is offensive, that you may have greatly misunderstood what was being expressed, or why.

I also have studied the laws of karma, as have many in the West.
I lived in a Zen Center when I was in my 20s here in the US which was founded by a visiting Korean Zen Master, and master of the I Ching. I practiced with a Japanese Aikido Master in his classes for a time.
I have been a member of many spiritual and meditation groups since then which have focused on Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, Native American and Sufi teachings and found truth in all of them.
I have studied with some other wonderful spiritual teachers such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills
I moved from the East Coast to California in order to study with that man, and became a friend of his family (and nearly lost my life in the process, as that was when I had my near death experience, but I cannot say it wasn't worth it).
(The most supportive groups I have engaged with were women's spirituality groups, since women have particular problems living in this mostly patriarchal world.)

Such groups are not lacking in the West, and many members of Avalon are quite familiar with the teachings of Buddha as well as Jesus, and try to practice what they preached.
So you are not alone here in that way.

You wrote: "It is very normal. You are westerner man, I am Chinese lady."

No, I am not a man.
I am a 73 year old woman who has seen and experienced a lot, and have been an active member of this forum for over 11 years.
You can see my earlier photos here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116309-Then-and-now-how-the-years-have-aged--and-matured--us&p=1452855&viewfull=1#post1452855
And my profile page here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?310-onawah
Every Avalon member has a profile page where you can check t5o see their gender.


You wrote: "Stop this topic. I will keep an eye and be quiet on this thread."

Stop what topic?

You are welcome to post on this thread, as long as you are civil and obey the forum rules.
But if you aren't sure you have understood something, it would be better if you ask for clarification, instead of rushing to make a judgement.

You wrote:
"I don't like the war. Only my thinking."

No sane person likes war!!!
But humanity has been at war for ages, and is engaged in a war of another kind now, a genocidal war of values, a war which at the heart has a transhumanist agenda which threatens to change us into inhuman hybrids, and enslave all who survive it under the rule of the Illuminati.
If you look closely at this forum, you will see this is a subject that is occupying most of our attention, if you haven't already done so.
Hopefully, if we can look closely and find the reasons for such insane behavior, we can learn how to change it.
Many of us think that time may be coming soon, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

I did not ask you to change your thinking, but it might not hurt to expand it a bit.
And to please do others here the courtesy of allowing us to think as we see fit.

Perhaps you have come to this forum in order to learn, as well as share your message?
I hope so. Life is about learning, and I think you may find some good lessons here, if you take the time.

Take good care,
Natalie

Hi Natalie,

Oh my, you are lady?

You are very very rational and know so many things.

You amazed me.

Okay, I will carefully read your post and say sorry to my negative thoughts to you on Disney.

I thought you were a man at about 35~38 years old.

I can't believe a woman can have such love and energy to focus on darkness.

You can be my teacher now.:heart::heart::heart:

Oh my, that is you.

I check your pic just now.

Sorry, I said that you are beautiful soul in my eyes.

I will show my deep respect to you now.

You are more powerful than those men I know.

I am the person who knows nothing and rude to you.

Plz forgive me.

Give my best wishes to you.

Jena

[xidaijena]

Jena, in reply to:
[QUOTE]“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
You wrote:
"You think I did nothing to China and the world?"


You misunderstood again. I was not accusing you of doing nothing.

It is my strong ego to defend man's energy.:blushing:



I was explaining why some of us do not ignore the evil that is being committed in our world, but shine a light on it, so that it may be cleansed and healed.
That is following the example of Jesus and Buddha and other spiritual leaders, who did not just focus on positive things, but brought the darkness to light.

I admire Jesus and Buddha. They have greater love than human beings.


In fact, I praised you for blowing the whistle on the man who misused you.
So why are you being so defensive?
Is it because you have suffered some hardship?
Haven't we all?
(I survived a near-death-experience when I was 24 years old, and was hit by a speeding hit-and-run drunk driver when I was trying to walk across a street.
I was hospitalized for 5 months with broken bones in all my limbs, and other serious injuries.
You can read something about my recovery here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31565-Angel-Spirit-Guide-Makes-Self-Known-in-Real-Life-Experience&p=321587&viewfull=1#post321587 )

I read your story, I believe it is your Karma, for you are now finding your purpose of life and do what you like. I just use my knowledge to say so.


But as I've pointed out before, this forum was created not just for spirituality, but also for "Conspiracy Theory"--the bringing to light secrets which have been hidden from the public, such as the existence of Extraterrestrials or the secret actions of governments and individuals that do not further the welfare of humanity or of planet Earth, and of horrible things such as Satanic practices, human trafficking, etc.

We do this on the forum not for "entertainment" or "thrills", but in hopes that others will wake up to the truth, and help to change the world for the better.
It's not an easy path, it's a kind of Karma Yoga, the Way of the Bodhisattva.
It's hard work, it can be revolting, nightmarish work!!
It's easier just to dwell on the positive!
But I think we strengthen ourselves by doing that work, and we help humanity to evolve by doing so.
Didn't you feel stronger after you exposed the man who abused you?

Indeed, when facing darkness and overcome my fear to it, I am stronger and more peaceful than before.

I am now understand that it is the Way of the Bodhisattva. I only feel grateful to my God in heart.




It's fine if you don't want to know about such things, but you cannot expect to criticize other Avalon members for focusing on such subjects so that we can help to bring about transformation...

For many of us, that's why we are here on Avalon, which is by far the best such forum on the internet, as far as I know.

I came to the first Avalon forum which was started years before this one, as still quite a naive person, and all I wanted to think about was positive things, too.
( Especially after I learned, to my profound disillusionment, more about what corruption can be hidden in seemingly spiritual groups, many of which are actually cults. )
But that changed over the years as I matured and opened my eyes more.
I think now that what we resist, persists, that we have to face the darkness, not hide from it.

Agree with you.

Y
ou may not agree with what is expressed by others here, but you must be civil, according to the forum rules.
And since you have so much difficulty with the English language, I think you should be aware, before you hastily criticize what you think is offensive, that you may have greatly misunderstood what was being expressed, or why.

You are right. I am sorry for my strong attack to you at the post about Disney.
I just thought you were a dirty thought man who only care about sex. Because, one of my Americen young male friend abuse my American old male friend Joel Wilson's( who is Kaer Celestial in Lifechanyuan) love to me as pedophile. That was the reason that I was very angry when I read your answer at that time.


I also have studied the laws of karma, as have many in the West.
I lived in a Zen Center when I was in my 20s here in the US which was founded by a visiting Korean Zen Master, and master of the I Ching. I practiced with a Japanese Aikido Master in his classes for a time.
I have been a member of many spiritual and meditation groups since then which have focused on Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, Native American and Sufi teachings and found truth in all of them.
I have studied with some other wonderful spiritual teachers such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills
I moved from the East Coast to California in order to study with that man, and became a friend of his family (and nearly lost my life in the process, as that was when I had my near death experience, but I cannot say it wasn't worth it).
(The most supportive groups I have engaged with were women's spirituality groups, since women have particular problems living in this mostly patriarchal world.)

Such groups are not lacking in the West, and many members of Avalon are quite familiar with the teachings of Buddha as well as Jesus, and try to practice what they preached.
So you are not alone here in that way.

Now I see. Thanks!


You wrote: "It is very normal. You are westerner man, I am Chinese lady."

No, I am not a man.
I am a 73 year old woman who has seen and experienced a lot, and have been an active member of this forum for over 11 years.
You can see my earlier photos here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116309-Then-and-now-how-the-years-have-aged--and-matured--us&p=1452855&viewfull=1#post1452855
And my profile page here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?310-onawah
Every Avalon member has a profile page where you can check t5o see their gender.

I just can't believe, western women like you and Masha have so much knowledge and wisdom to know the truth about darkness.

I am sorry for my rudeness and carelessness.



You wrote: "Stop this topic. I will keep an eye and be quiet on this thread."

Stop what topic?

You are welcome to post on this thread, as long as you are civil and obey the forum rules.
But if you aren't sure you have understood something, it would be better if you ask for clarification, instead of rushing to make a judgement.


Indeed. I always like to judge those things I don't like. especially man's energy(power).:blushing:

You wrote:
"I don't like the war. Only my thinking."


No sane person likes war!!!
But humanity has been at war for ages, and is engaged in a war of another kind now, a genocidal war of values, a war which at the heart has a transhumanist agenda which threatens to change us into inhuman hybrids, and enslave all who survive it under the rule of the Illuminati.
If you look closely at this forum, you will see this is a subject that is occupying most of our attention, if you haven't already done so.
Hopefully, if we can look closely and find the reasons for such insane behavior, we can learn how to change it.
Many of us think that time may be coming soon, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

I did not ask you to change your thinking, but it might not hurt to expand it a bit.
And to please do others here the courtesy of allowing us to think as we see fit.

Perhaps you have come to this forum in order to learn, as well as share your message?
I hope so. Life is about learning, and I think you may find some good lessons here, if you take the time.

Got it. I will use civil words to express my thinking on the thread.

Thank you and Keep it up.:heart:

Jena

[onawah]

Thank you Jena, and you keep it up, too!
I'm very glad we got that all cleared up, and that you see now I was offering you friendship and understanding, not a gun!
Thank you for taking the time to investigate, so you can see that now.
It is not easy being a woman in what is still a world run mostly by men, and I imagine that it's even more difficult in China than in the West, so I support you in your struggle.:nod:
Women need to stand strong together in order to bring about the changes that we want to see.
Thanks to the Goddess :angel: that there are some wise men who agree that women will lead the way to a new and better world, where we cooperate more and compete less.
I am thankful for that, but I think we women knew it already! :girl_wink:
The ones who still don't know will learn in time, but we may have to use a bit more force with them :blackwidow: ...yes?
Just kidding--non violence is the best way, but we must know how to stand in our power as well.
Anyway, I think we accomplished a little East/West diplomacy today! :handshake:
Take good care :waving:


Got it. I will use civil words to express my thinking on the thread.
Thank you and Keep it up.:heart:
Jena

[xidaijena]

Gravitas US Edition: China turns off traffic lights amid power crunch
281,153 views Sep 27, 2021
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"Hundreds of homes and factories in China are going dark amid a major power crunch. Some cities are turning off traffic lights to ration power. Why is China running out of energy? What does it mean for the world? Palki Sharma tells you."

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Thank you for posting this important video, Natalie.

I want to know, if China have no power and other country will safe? Or they will have no power, either?

I just want to ask this.

And for me, I once experienced hot in summer without power for several days.

Without power, I can have many books to learn.

But maybe, my mother will always complain for sth. My husband will lose his job and stay at home. The hospital will be off.

No internet, no phone, no wechat.

[xidaijena]

Thank you Jena, and you keep it up, too!
I'm very glad we got that all cleared up, and that you see now I was offering you friendship and understanding, not a gun!
Thank you for taking the time to investigate, so you can see that now.
It is not easy being a woman in what is still a world run mostly by men, and I imagine that it's even more difficult in China than in the West, so I support you in your struggle.:nod:
Women need to stand strong together in order to bring about the changes that we want to see.
Thanks to the Goddess :angel: that there are some wise men who agree that women will lead the way to a new and better world, where we cooperate more and compete less.
I am thankful for that, but I think we women knew it already! :girl_wink:
The ones who still don't know will learn in time, but we may have to use a bit more force with them :blackwidow: ...yes?
Just kidding--non violence is the best way, but we must know how to stand in our power as well.
Anyway, I think we accomplished a little East/West diplomacy today! :handshake:
Take good care :waving:


Got it. I will use civil words to express my thinking on the thread.
Thank you and Keep it up.:heart:
Jena

So cool, yes, more and more Chinese women stand up to "fight" for their right. They make money and even rasie the child by themselves.

Men shall use their love and power to respect women.

This is also one of the values in Lifechanyuan.

I like :blackwidow:.


non violence is the best way, but we must know how to stand in our power as well.

I think we need to use "violence" to fight with those devils sometimes. But take good care of ourselves is first thing. Here, the wisdom is an very important matter.

In Chinese, we will say: 刚不能克柔，柔能克刚.

Rigidity can't overcome softness, softness overcomes rigidity.


Anyway, I think we accomplished a little East/West diplomacy today!

Indeed, thank you for your kind love to me.

Best wishes to you.

Jena

[onawah]

Power outages, shortages of fuel, food, clean water and other essentials, these are challenges that many people all over the world may be contending with before long.
In the case of China, because so much manufacturing is done there, if the factories aren't working, many essential products that the rest of the world has been relying on China to supply, will be unavailable to everyone.
The real tragedy is that it's unnecessary, because it will be happening largely by design of those in power, to drastically reduce the population of the world and to gain complete control of the survivors.

To compound the tragedy, there have been many inventions which could change everything for the better, devices which would free everyone from reliance on fossil fuels, solar power, wind power, hydroelectric power.
Devices which run by using free energy such as the hydrogen in the air, or by the energy generated by magnets, all of which would be cheap to manufacture and to run.

There is an Avalon member named Wade Frazier who knows about such inventions first hand, and has a thread here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&highlight=wade+frazier

It seems certain to many now that there are cosmic cycles that occur periodically in our solar system which cause huge natural disasters, and that another one may be due soon.
See the Disaster Playlist here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2decDcEJqo&list=PLHSoxioQtwZcVcFC85TxEEiirgfXwhfsw
and the thread here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1302710&viewfull=1#post1302710

Those in power have been preventing the revolutionary devices from coming to the market, because they fear they would then lose control of all the wealth and power they have accumulated over centuries.
Because they have had access to the best information from scientists (which they often keep suppressed), they have known for a long time that there are natural and manmade disasters coming. and so they have been using taxpayer money to build huge underground cities for themselves which they think will protect them.
If you do an internet search for "DUMBS or Deep Underground Military Bases" you will find information about that, and there is a lot that has been posted on Avalon as well.
And they are creating a colony on Mars, just in case they need to escape the planet.
If you are interested in learning more about this kind of information from whistleblowers, there is a lot here on Avalon, and on the Project Camelot website.
If you were to spend all your time just reading and watching the videos on these 2 sites, it would probably take years for you to process all the information, and by then of course, it would all be history!
But I can think of worse ways to spend your time.
If you want to research here; the Avalon Moderators are usually happy to help you find information if you ask them.

Around the world, there are intentional, sustainable communities rather like the one you have been a part of in China, created by people who also feel that there is a better, healthier way to live on planet Earth.
And there are various Survivalist and "Prepper" (meaning those who are preparing) groups, people who have been preparing for a long time for disasters they intuitively saw coming, who are learning how to live off the grid, how to farm sustainably and organically, how to homeschool their children, govern themselves apart from Church and State, and generally be as self-reliant as possible.
Such people probably have a much better chance of surviving the coming changes than the majority of people living mainstream lives in cities and towns.
There is a list here of such communities around the world: Foundation for Intentional Community: https://www.ic.org/



Gravitas US Edition: China turns off traffic lights amid power crunch

"Hundreds of homes and factories in China are going dark amid a major power crunch. Some cities are turning off traffic lights to ration power. Why is China running out of energy? What does it mean for the world? Palki Sharma tells you."


Thank you for posting this important video, Natalie.

I want to know, if China have no power and other country will safe? Or they will have no power, either?

I just want to ask this.

And for me, I once experienced hot in summer without power for several days.

Without power, I can have many books to learn.

But maybe, my mother will always complain for sth. My husband will lose his job and stay at home. The hospital will be off.

No internet, no phone, no wechat.

[Pam]

Power outages, shortages of fuel, food, clean water and other essentials, these are challenges that many people all over the world may be contending with before long.
In the case of China, because so much manufacturing is done there, if the factories aren't working, many essential products that the rest of the world has been relying on China to supply, will be unavailable to everyone.
The real tragedy is that it's unnecessary, because it will be happening largely by design of those in power, to drastically reduce the population of the world and to gain complete control of the survivors.

To compound the tragedy, there have been many inventions which could change everything for the better, devices which would free everyone from reliance on fossil fuels, solar power, wind power, hydroelectric power.
Devices which run by using free energy such as the hydrogen in the air, or by the energy generated by magnets, all of which would be cheap to manufacture and to run.

There is an Avalon member named Wade Frazier who knows about such inventions first hand, and has a thread here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&highlight=wade+frazier

It seems certain to many now that there are cosmic cycles that occur periodically in our solar system which cause huge natural disasters, and that another one may be due soon.
See the Disaster Playlist here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2decDcEJqo&list=PLHSoxioQtwZcVcFC85TxEEiirgfXwhfsw
and the thread here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1302710&viewfull=1#post1302710

Those in power have been preventing the revolutionary devices from coming to the market, because they fear they would then lose control of all the wealth and power they have accumulated over centuries.
Because they have had access to the best information from scientists (which they often keep suppressed), they have known for a long time that there are natural and manmade disasters coming. and so they have been using taxpayer money to build huge underground cities for themselves which they think will protect them.
If you do an internet search for "DUMBS or Deep Underground Military Bases" you will find information about that, and there is a lot that has been posted on Avalon as well.
And they are creating a colony on Mars, just in case they need to escape the planet.
If you are interested in learning more about this kind of information from whistleblowers, there is a lot here on Avalon, and on the Project Camelot website.
If you were to spend all your time just reading and watching the videos on these 2 sites, it would probably take years for you to process all the information, and by then of course, it would all be history!
But I can think of worse ways to spend your time.
If you want to research here; the Avalon Moderators are usually happy to help you find information if you ask them.

Around the world, there are intentional, sustainable communities rather like the one you have been a part of in China, created by people who also feel that there is a better, healthier way to live on planet Earth.
And there are various Survivalist and "Prepper" (meaning those who are preparing) groups, people who have been preparing for a long time for disasters they intuitively saw coming, who are learning how to live off the grid, how to farm sustainably and organically, how to homeschool their children, govern themselves apart from Church and State, and generally be as self-reliant as possible.
Such people probably have a much better chance of surviving the coming changes than the majority of people living mainstream lives in cities and towns.
There is a list here of such communities around the world: Foundation for Intentional Community: https://www.ic.org/



Gravitas US Edition: China turns off traffic lights amid power crunch

"Hundreds of homes and factories in China are going dark amid a major power crunch. Some cities are turning off traffic lights to ration power. Why is China running out of energy? What does it mean for the world? Palki Sharma tells you."


Thank you for posting this important video, Natalie.

I want to know, if China have no power and other country will safe? Or they will have no power, either?

I just want to ask this.

And for me, I once experienced hot in summer without power for several days.

Without power, I can have many books to learn.

But maybe, my mother will always complain for sth. My husband will lose his job and stay at home. The hospital will be off.

No internet, no phone, no wechat.

I believe we all have a tendency to look at these issues of each country as separate. We see each government as having autonomy. I believe the whole dang thing is scripted. The CCP conflict with Australia which will aggravate their energy production. The same China that supplies much of the world with manufactured goods will now not be able to produce those goods. Oops..shortages of everything world wide. Courtesy of same folks that brought us the "pandemic".

I could go on all day but you get my drift. This is just one big political theater. They are all putting this show on together. They have a common goal, the destruction of humanity. Those that cooperate hope to save their skins. Wasn't is Jim Morrison who once said "No get's out of here alive"? I'm not drinking the political cool aid any longer.

Having said that, it doesn't mean that these events aren't happening. It's just not a simple cause and effect thing, the way it looks. It's a complex, brilliant shell game.

Onawah, I do very much appreciate your research on the topic because there are huge clues in these events.


A side note....some of the creepiest leaders we have in the world right now are women....so there is that.

[onawah]

Yes, I agree Pam. HRC creeps me out no end, just for one.
And the new Governor of NY (no improvement over Cuomo from the looks of things) who says that she thinks the COVID jabs are a gift from God and she wants all New Yorkers to become her apostles and spread the word. :facepalm:
See: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115452-News-compilations-Epoch-Times-NTD-WeAreChange-etc.&p=1454771&viewfull=1#post1454771



A side note....some of the creepiest leaders we have in the world right now are women....so there is that.

[xidaijena]

Power outages, shortages of fuel, food, clean water and other essentials, these are challenges that many people all over the world may be contending with before long.
In the case of China, because so much manufacturing is done there, if the factories aren't working, many essential products that the rest of the world has been relying on China to supply, will be unavailable to everyone.
The real tragedy is that it's unnecessary, because it will be happening largely by design of those in power, to drastically reduce the population of the world and to gain complete control of the survivors.

To compound the tragedy, there have been many inventions which could change everything for the better, devices which would free everyone from reliance on fossil fuels, solar power, wind power, hydroelectric power.
Devices which run by using free energy such as the hydrogen in the air, or by the energy generated by magnets, all of which would be cheap to manufacture and to run.

There is an Avalon member named Wade Frazier who knows about such inventions first hand, and has a thread here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&highlight=wade+frazier

It seems certain to many now that there are cosmic cycles that occur periodically in our solar system which cause huge natural disasters, and that another one may be due soon.
See the Disaster Playlist here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2decDcEJqo&list=PLHSoxioQtwZcVcFC85TxEEiirgfXwhfsw
and the thread here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1302710&viewfull=1#post1302710

Those in power have been preventing the revolutionary devices from coming to the market, because they fear they would then lose control of all the wealth and power they have accumulated over centuries.
Because they have had access to the best information from scientists (which they often keep suppressed), they have known for a long time that there are natural and manmade disasters coming. and so they have been using taxpayer money to build huge underground cities for themselves which they think will protect them.
If you do an internet search for "DUMBS or Deep Underground Military Bases" you will find information about that, and there is a lot that has been posted on Avalon as well.
And they are creating a colony on Mars, just in case they need to escape the planet.
If you are interested in learning more about this kind of information from whistleblowers, there is a lot here on Avalon, and on the Project Camelot website.
If you were to spend all your time just reading and watching the videos on these 2 sites, it would probably take years for you to process all the information, and by then of course, it would all be history!
But I can think of worse ways to spend your time.
If you want to research here; the Avalon Moderators are usually happy to help you find information if you ask them.

Around the world, there are intentional, sustainable communities rather like the one you have been a part of in China, created by people who also feel that there is a better, healthier way to live on planet Earth.
And there are various Survivalist and "Prepper" (meaning those who are preparing) groups, people who have been preparing for a long time for disasters they intuitively saw coming, who are learning how to live off the grid, how to farm sustainably and organically, how to homeschool their children, govern themselves apart from Church and State, and generally be as self-reliant as possible.
Such people probably have a much better chance of surviving the coming changes than the majority of people living mainstream lives in cities and towns.
There is a list here of such communities around the world: Foundation for Intentional Community: https://www.ic.org/



Gravitas US Edition: China turns off traffic lights amid power crunch

"Hundreds of homes and factories in China are going dark amid a major power crunch. Some cities are turning off traffic lights to ration power. Why is China running out of energy? What does it mean for the world? Palki Sharma tells you."


Thank you for posting this important video, Natalie.

I want to know, if China have no power and other country will safe? Or they will have no power, either?

I just want to ask this.

And for me, I once experienced hot in summer without power for several days.

Without power, I can have many books to learn.

But maybe, my mother will always complain for sth. My husband will lose his job and stay at home. The hospital will be off.

No internet, no phone, no wechat.

Thank you for sharing such detailed and useful information with me.

Avalon did a lot of work about it. :thumbsup:

Guide Xuefeng once dug a long and big cave for chanyuan members to prepare for the disaster in 2012.

Now I will live peacefully every day.

To be honest, I am not sure the big change will happen or not. I just want to leave without pain.:o

A little sad in my heart these days for some unspeakable reason.

I know the website : www.ic.org

We search and send e-mails to most of the communities on the webiste.

I am not sure what will happen in the next future, but only see and know God from everything around me.

I don't want to do any preparation. If God wants me to leave, I can't stay. If I have more time to stay, HE will "tell" me what I need to prepare.

Anyway, thank you again, dear Natalie.

Peace & Love:flower::flower::flower:

[Dubsy]

Power outages, shortages of fuel, food, clean water and other essentials, these are challenges that many people all over the world may be contending with before long.
In the case of China, because so much manufacturing is done there, if the factories aren't working, many essential products that the rest of the world has been relying on China to supply, will be unavailable to everyone.
The real tragedy is that it's unnecessary, because it will be happening largely by design of those in power, to drastically reduce the population of the world and to gain complete control of the survivors.

To compound the tragedy, there have been many inventions which could change everything for the better, devices which would free everyone from reliance on fossil fuels, solar power, wind power, hydroelectric power.
Devices which run by using free energy such as the hydrogen in the air, or by the energy generated by magnets, all of which would be cheap to manufacture and to run.

There is an Avalon member named Wade Frazier who knows about such inventions first hand, and has a thread here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet&highlight=wade+frazier

It seems certain to many now that there are cosmic cycles that occur periodically in our solar system which cause huge natural disasters, and that another one may be due soon.
See the Disaster Playlist here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2decDcEJqo&list=PLHSoxioQtwZcVcFC85TxEEiirgfXwhfsw
and the thread here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107798-Geomagnetic-Reversals-and-Ice-Ages&p=1302710&viewfull=1#post1302710

Those in power have been preventing the revolutionary devices from coming to the market, because they fear they would then lose control of all the wealth and power they have accumulated over centuries.
Because they have had access to the best information from scientists (which they often keep suppressed), they have known for a long time that there are natural and manmade disasters coming. and so they have been using taxpayer money to build huge underground cities for themselves which they think will protect them.
If you do an internet search for "DUMBS or Deep Underground Military Bases" you will find information about that, and there is a lot that has been posted on Avalon as well.
And they are creating a colony on Mars, just in case they need to escape the planet.
If you are interested in learning more about this kind of information from whistleblowers, there is a lot here on Avalon, and on the Project Camelot website.
If you were to spend all your time just reading and watching the videos on these 2 sites, it would probably take years for you to process all the information, and by then of course, it would all be history!
But I can think of worse ways to spend your time.
If you want to research here; the Avalon Moderators are usually happy to help you find information if you ask them.

Around the world, there are intentional, sustainable communities rather like the one you have been a part of in China, created by people who also feel that there is a better, healthier way to live on planet Earth.
And there are various Survivalist and "Prepper" (meaning those who are preparing) groups, people who have been preparing for a long time for disasters they intuitively saw coming, who are learning how to live off the grid, how to farm sustainably and organically, how to homeschool their children, govern themselves apart from Church and State, and generally be as self-reliant as possible.
Such people probably have a much better chance of surviving the coming changes than the majority of people living mainstream lives in cities and towns.
There is a list here of such communities around the world: Foundation for Intentional Community: https://www.ic.org/



Gravitas US Edition: China turns off traffic lights amid power crunch

"Hundreds of homes and factories in China are going dark amid a major power crunch. Some cities are turning off traffic lights to ration power. Why is China running out of energy? What does it mean for the world? Palki Sharma tells you."


Thank you for posting this important video, Natalie.

I want to know, if China have no power and other country will safe? Or they will have no power, either?

I just want to ask this.

And for me, I once experienced hot in summer without power for several days.

Without power, I can have many books to learn.

But maybe, my mother will always complain for sth. My husband will lose his job and stay at home. The hospital will be off.

No internet, no phone, no wechat.

I believe we all have a tendency to look at these issues of each country as separate. We see each government as having autonomy. I believe the whole dang thing is scripted. The CCP conflict with Australia which will aggravate their energy production. The same China that supplies much of the world with manufactured goods will now not be able to produce those goods. Oops..shortages of everything world wide. Courtesy of same folks that brought us the "pandemic".

I could go on all day but you get my drift. This is just one big political theater. They are all putting this show on together. They have a common goal, the destruction of humanity. Those that cooperate hope to save their skins. Wasn't is Jim Morrison who once said "No get's out of here alive"? I'm not drinking the political cool aid any longer.

Having said that, it doesn't mean that these events aren't happening. It's just not a simple cause and effect thing, the way it looks. It's a complex, brilliant shell game.

Onawah, I do very much appreciate your research on the topic because there are huge clues in these events.


A side note....some of the creepiest leaders we have in the world right now are women....so there is that.

I'm in absolute agreement with Pam here.

She nailed it :flower:

[onawah]

China's Power Crisis Creates A Disaster | Why Is China Facing Power Shortage?
71,872 views Premiered Sep 30, 2021
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China Observer

(Reportedly, this has to do with a recent phone call between Biden and Xi Jinping, and the commitment to reduce carbon emissions.)

"Since late July this year, 16 of China's 31 provinces, ranging from the industrial hub of Guangdong in the south to the "rust belt" of the northeast, have introduced power usage restrictions. It has been reported that even the two largest cities-- Beijing and Shanghai have not escaped from this "disaster." However, the power departments of the two cities have claimed that the power outage is due to scheduled routine maintenance. Such extensive power outages, not only introduced chaos in the country's industrial sector but also caused serious disruptions to people's daily lives.
Northeast China is one of the regions with the most severe power restrictions. Since September 23rd, not only has electricity been restricted for businesses, but also for residents. Because of the power outage, residents' water supply has also been stopped, elevators in high-rise apartments are out of service, and cell phones have no signal. Some people couldn’t have dinner for two days, some people were trapped in elevators because of the sudden power outage, and a pregnant woman climbed 24 floors to go home......
The massive power cuts have not only affected people's normal lives but have had a serious impact on the Chinese economy and global markets.
The three main industrial provinces of Jiangsu, Zhejiang, and Guangdong, which account for nearly one-third of China's total GDP, are the main areas where electricity supply is restricted. Guangdong Province has been implementing an "open two days, close five days" power supply schedule since September 18. Jiangsu Province also introduced electricity restrictions in some areas. Zhejiang Province requires the high energy-consuming enterprises to reduce electricity consumption immediately, all local governments should ensure that these enterprises stop production until the end of the month.
Under the government's strong implementation of the policy of "dual control of energy consumption and intensity", the industries and regions affected are still expanding.
Nomura Holdings analysts warned that China's economy will shrink in this quarter. The current market is mainly focusing on Evergrande's financial turmoil and Beijing's control of the real estate industry, the impact of electricity restrictions may be underestimated or even ignored, but "electricity restrictions" will indeed have a serious impact on the economy.
Nomura also pointed out that China's power restrictions will further disrupt the global supply chain, which will soon feel the supply pressure from textiles, toys, to machine parts and other categories.
Why did the Chinese Communist authorities cut off electricity at this time?
According to mainland media reports, the main reason for the power outage was that the "dual control of energy consumption and intensity" target was not fulfilled well in the first half of 2021. Local governments decided to launch a surprise operation in order to complete the task. "Dual control of energy consumption" was introduced at the Fifth Plenary Session of the 18th Central Committee of the CCP in 2015. "
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[onawah]

Gen. Keane: US very concerned with China activity near Taiwan
72,354 views Oct 4, 2021
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Fox News
8.17M subscribers

"Fox News senior strategic analyst Gen. Jack Keane discusses China’s potential future military plans regarding Taiwan."
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Not sure when I will update, right now China wants to take over Taiwan...jets shaking my windows.

Guys, I'm a USAF vet living and working in Taiwan. If Taiwan is taken over by China (which could happen by noon today) then all posts and news from this site will end. China would stop all outgoing news by pulling the plug on wifi, 4G and 5G connections. Also possible China is practicing for later this month on attacking social media platforms before it takes Taiwan for real. 

I just woke up at 5:59  am here in New Taipei City, Taiwan to the sounds of a Taiwan F-16 fighter jet flying about 200-300 meters up. Very low, hauling ass in the direction of the ocean nearest China. Every day China has sent 30+ military jets over Taiwan airspace, yesterday it sent 56 jet. The aircraft included 34 Shenyang J-16 fighter jets, two SU-30 fighter jets, two Shaanxi Y-8 anti-submarine warfare (Y-8 ASW) planes, two KJ-500 airborne early warning and control aircraft (KJ-500 AEW&C), and 12 Xian H-6 bombers. 

It's very possible that China will take us over by noon today. The media outages worldwide may be Chinese hackers trying to stop the spread of news of them taking over Taiwan on social media so it slows a response by US and its allies. Can't leave, sons passport is in limbo in Taiwan embassy for last 6 weeks for unknown reason. It looks like outlook for Taiwan is FUBAR. 

In case this is it, its been fun reporting for you all and I hope you continue supporting the UFO community by also supporting other UFO reporters worldwide. 

Thank you for everything, 

Scott C. Waring - Taiwan - October 5, 2021

[Bill Ryan]

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Not sure when I will update, right now China wants to take over Taiwan...jets shaking my windows.

Guys, I'm a USAF vet living and working in Taiwan. If Taiwan is taken over by China (which could happen by noon today) then all posts and news from this site will end. China would stop all outgoing news by pulling the plug on wifi, 4G and 5G connections. Also possible China is practicing for later this month on attacking social media platforms before it takes Taiwan for real.

I just woke up at 5:59 am here in New Taipei City, Taiwan to the sounds of a Taiwan F-16 fighter jet flying about 200-300 meters up. Very low, hauling ass in the direction of the ocean nearest China. Every day China has sent 30+ military jets over Taiwan airspace, yesterday it sent 56 jet. The aircraft included 34 Shenyang J-16 fighter jets, two SU-30 fighter jets, two Shaanxi Y-8 anti-submarine warfare (Y-8 ASW) planes, two KJ-500 airborne early warning and control aircraft (KJ-500 AEW&C), and 12 Xian H-6 bombers.

It's very possible that China will take us over by noon today. The media outages worldwide may be Chinese hackers trying to stop the spread of news of them taking over Taiwan on social media so it slows a response by US and its allies. Can't leave, sons passport is in limbo in Taiwan embassy for last 6 weeks for unknown reason. It looks like outlook for Taiwan is FUBAR. Many thanks. Yes, and we may well need a separate Taiwan thread to properly cover these kinds of reports and concerns.

I have no information beyond what others reading here may be aware of, but (for what its worth!) my Spidey Senses are telling me there's a high risk of definitive Chinese action to take back Taiwan sooner than anyone might think. The US military is publicly appearing so weak and incompetent that it's a green light encouragement to anyone else out there to do pretty much whatever they like.

[onawah]

Xi Jinping has been 'telling us' what China is planning for Taiwan
90,922 views Oct 5, 2021
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Sky News Australia
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"Liberal Senator Jim Molan says we know what China plans to do in relation to Taiwan because President Xi Jinping has been "telling us".

It comes amid news Taiwan is preparing for Chinese invasion.

Mr Molan said the world has been "ignoring authoritarian rulers" over the last 100 years "to our cost".

"They tend to tell you exactly what they want to do, and we don't believe it," he told Sky News host Rita Panahi.

"There is a pattern of coercion and aggression here that is getting worse and worse and worse."
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What the MSM isn't talking about (still) is just what Trump meant when he said we have better weapons now than bombs.
I don't doubt that he was referring to weather weapons such as HAARP.
If the US military was really going to go to war with China, destroying the 3 Gorges Dam would certainly be a crippling blow, and HAARP could probably do it.
But the way that Biden has been kowtowing to XI, that seems unlikely.
However, natural earthquakes, flooding and landslides could accomplish that.
Either way, if that should happen, would the CCP still be able to go forward with their plans to dominate the South China Sea?

[onawah]

Trillions of Negative Cash Flow Cause Bond Defaults & Debt Crisis of Chinese Property Developers
60,156 views Premiered Oct 7, 2021
China Observer
142K subscribers

"China’s real estate bubble is about to burst | Full story | All You Need to Know.

On October 4, Chinese luxury real estate developer Fantasia Holdings fails to pay $206 million in debt due.
On October 3, the $260 million dollar note from Jumbo Fortune Enterprises matured. The dollar note is guaranteed by China Evergrande Group and its unit Tianji Holding Ltd.
On October 4, China Evergrande and Evergrande Property announced the temporary suspension of trading without prior warning before the opening of the Hong Kong stock market.
Evergrande has defaulted on the maturity interest of two US dollar bonds in late September, involving amounts of US$83.5 million and US$47.5 million respectively.
Of course, these are not the only ones that face such challenges.
According to the "Times Weekly" report, as of September 5 this year, a total of 274 real estate companies in mainland China have issued bankruptcy announcements.
In 2020, 408 real estate companies issued bankruptcy announcements.
The reason for the bankruptcy of mainland real estate companies is generally because of the rupture of the capital chain, resulting in debt defaults.
In August last year, the Chinese authorities set "three red lines" for real estate companies and restricted their financing according to the number of red lines they stepped on.
Secondly, at the end of last year, the authorities also set the ratio of bank loans to developers’ own funds for real estate projects.
Furthermore, since the beginning of this year, the CCP has continuously upgraded its "control" on real estate industry, controlling the housing market from the demand side, causing the rapid cooling of the market.
Thus, the desire of real estate companies to speed up the sale of properties to collect the money has been dashed.
The financing of real estate companies is restricted, the method of lending the new to repay the old is also blocked, and properties are generally not easy to sell. Therefore, many real estate companies’ capital chains were broken.
Most of China's real estate companies quickly expand up through a high borrowing and high turnover approach, their leverage ratios are relatively high.
For example, the real estate company that ranked first in sales in September- Country Garden, starts project design immediately once it acquires land plots, opens for pre-sale within 4 months, achieves positive cash flow in the 5th month, and starts to rush into a new land acquisition in the 6th month.
This kind of high turnover becomes the way to maximize the interests of real estate enterprises.
Under this business philosophy, the net operating cash flow of real estate companies has always been negative as a whole.
In 2014, the net cash flow of all real estate companies was as high as negative 884 Billion USD.
Since then, China has been forced to start destocking to improve cash flow for the real estate industry.
By 2018, the net cash flow was negative 590 billion USD.
By 2020, the net cash flow has deteriorated again and reached a negative 714 billion.
From January to August this year, the number is negative 512 billion, and it is expected to exceed negative 776 billion USD for the entire year.
Driven by greed, real estate companies do everything they can to expand rapidly, and their cash flow has always been negative.
How can these companies not collapse?"
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