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irishspirit
13th January 2011, 13:09
[This article translated by Google.]

Normally, the sun shall not return to Ilulissat, 13 January, but suddenly today peeped it in the distance, two days earlier than normal. - It arrived at 12:56:57. Vi var rigtig mange mennesker, der sa den. We were very many people who saw it. It is really nice and we can certainly confirm that the sun is still round and not square, "said Mr Petersen smiling. 74-year-old Holger Sivertsen, one of Ilulissat's older citizens, is surprised that the sun is back so early. - That sounds very strange. Here in town, the sun until 13 januar. January. There must be something wrong when it arrives on 11 January, he says. When asked why he thinks that it came so early, he says briefly: - I have no clue.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=29183

Why? Possible to do with a shift?

Bill Ryan
13th January 2011, 13:13
[This article translated by Google.]

Normally, the sun shall not return to Ilulissat, 13 January, but suddenly today peeped it in the distance, two days earlier than normal. - It arrived at 12:56:57. Vi var rigtig mange mennesker, der sa den. We were very many people who saw it. It is really nice and we can certainly confirm that the sun is still round and not square, "said Mr Petersen smiling. 74-year-old Holger Sivertsen, one of Ilulissat's older citizens, is surprised that the sun is back so early. - That sounds very strange. Here in town, the sun until 13 januar. January. There must be something wrong when it arrives on 11 January, he says. When asked why he thinks that it came so early, he says briefly: - I have no clue.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=29183

Why? Possible to do with a shift?

[Mod hat on]

No original article (blind link), incomprehensible translation. Please reformat and re-post: many thanks.

(Btw: there has not been a pole shift. :) )

angel in disguise
13th January 2011, 14:17
May not have shifted but is certainly shifting, not sure if you have seen this news piece but here it is... Also I've been watching this on my iphone compass for 2 yrs and it has definitely changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRiIe5wZzTY&feature=uploademail

The One
13th January 2011, 14:25
I wouldn’t trust anything that’s over 93 million miles away

Bill Ryan
13th January 2011, 14:45
May not have shifted but is certainly shifting, not sure if you have seen this news piece but here it is... Also I've been watching this on my iphone compass for 2 yrs and it has definitely changed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRiIe5wZzTY&feature=uploademail

Hi, folks -

Note that the movement of the magnetic north pole (which every hiker with a map and compass knows is always shifting around a little from year to year) is nothing to do with a physical shift of any kind.

Don't be confused. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Or maybe apples and pumpkins!

MorningSong
13th January 2011, 14:53
Interesting.....

I found this:

http://www.orf.at/stories/2035937/2035934/

Translation from German:


In Greenland, this year the sun, after the polar night, has appeared two days early. According to the KNR Radio, Greenland, that the central star has shown itself in Ilulissat, on Tuesday at exactly 12:56:57 Clock. Normally, the sun rises in the West Greenland settlement, however, not until 13 January for the first time again.

An expert from the University of Vienna suggests that the observation may be due to the recent strong accelerated melting of the Greenland ice sheet. One thing is certain - the constellation of the stars has certainly not changed.

Inhabitants of the third-largest city with 4,500 inhabitants of Greenland, because of the early sun appeared worried. "Here in this place, the sun first arrives on the 13 January. It's not good one or the other (day?), "cited a 74-year-old KNR locals in a report on its website.

No change in the Earth's rotation
Scientists rule out any case that the observation could have geophysical or astronomical reasons. "The constellation of the stars has not changed," said Wolfgang Lenhardt, head of the geophysics department at the Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics (ZAMG) in Vienna. "There would have been an outcry around the world." The data of Earth's axis and Earth's rotation would be monitored continuously and meticulously.

Horizon decreases
Thomas Posch from the Institute for Astronomy, University of Vienna completed astronomical reasons for the premature end of the polar night also. He suggests that the observation is due to a change in the local horizon. An acceleration of the melting of the Greenland ice sheet lowering the horizon appears as "by far the most obvious" explanation. According to Lenhardt it could possibly also be an atmospheric phenomenon - act - for example by ice crystals caused a mirage.

Glaciers are melting rapidly
The alarming message about the decline of the Greenland ice sheet is also evidenced by the current climate studies. A report by the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) shows that Greenland's temperatures were an average of three degrees Celsius above normal. This led in recent years to increased glacier melt summer.

Weather Records in December
And the year's winter has not done much to show that the snow and ice is growing again. In December, the temperatures in the populated coastal regions were around the zero point, which is well above the long-term average. Instead of snow in the south of the island there was even rain.

KNR announced in December, several weather records from the Arctic region. It had rained hald an inch in the town of Kuujjuaq on 1 December for the first time since records began. In Salluit in Hudson Strait, at Christmas it was plus three degrees. Normally at Christmas time there are between minus 19 and minus 27 degrees Celsius.


Here's an interesting article from Dec 2, 2009

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/Green/2754269/Greenland-in-meltdown-Sun-man-visits-vanishing-ice-sheet.html

Kra
13th January 2011, 14:59
I wouldn’t trust anything that’s over 93 million miles away

Why wouldn't you trust our star ? The sun can't hurt you, "it" doesn't want to hurt you.

Bill Ryan
13th January 2011, 14:59
I found this:

http://www.orf.at/stories/2035937/2035934/

Translation from German:

In Greenland, this year the sun, after the polar night, has appeared two days early. According to the KNR Radio, Greenland, that the central star has shown itself in Ilulissat, on Tuesday at exactly 12:56:57 Clock. Normally, the sun rises in the West Greenland settlement, however, not until 13 January for the first time again.

An expert from the University of Vienna suggests that the observation may be due to the recent strong accelerated melting of the Greenland ice sheet. One thing is certain - the constellation of the stars has certainly NOT changed.

There was that one little word that was accidentally omitted from the translation! (Check the original (http://www.orf.at/stories/2035937/2035934) and see...)

:)

[ Post edit: I see you beat me to it with the correction. Thank you! ]

MorningSong
13th January 2011, 15:05
Thanks Bill...proofing I saw that bad error I made....sorry....got it fixed...

Bumping this up from the bottom of my post:


Here's an interesting article from Dec 2, 2009

"Greenland in Meltdown....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ice-sheet.html

The One
13th January 2011, 15:10
kra re your comment below

Why wouldn't you trust our star ? The sun can't hurt you, "it" doesn't want to hurt you

Oh it can and it will i dont trust it my own opinion my friend

Kra
13th January 2011, 15:14
i dont trust it my own opinion my friend

Of course. I don't want to change it, i just asked.