Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

[aceninja]

I believe Ancient Egypt, along with other ancient cities were actually part of Atlantis, the civilization. Atlantis is not just a continent that sank.

According to Thoth in his own words, the Atlantean fled Atlantis and civilized Kemet (Egypt). His science would be seen as magic to the indigenous people...

Perhaps the Egyptian artifacts are actually Atlantean artifacts. "Egyptian" artifacts have been found all over the world, including the Grand Canyon in the USA.

Another connection involves the Sleeping Giants found inside stasis chambers around the world. They have Egyptian-style golden artifacts inside their pods and look like Norse-like figures with red hair.

Noting the fate of Atlantis being by an act of God, they seem to have a direct connection to the Watchers (fallen angels) and the Nephilim (human-angel hybrid offspring) referenced by the Book of Enoch.

The ancient Sumerians also have a similar background.

What are your thoughts?

[Peter UK]

I believe Ancient Egypt, along with other ancient cities were actually part of Atlantis, the civilization. Atlantis is not just a continent that sank.

According to Thoth in his own words, the Atlantean fled Atlantis and civilized Kemet (Egypt). His science would be seen as magic to the indigenous people...



Edgar Cayce cites various outreaches and influences of the Atlantean civilisation and migration owing to the catastrophe. One was Egypt but there were several others including the Pyrenees (Europe) and in particular the Yucatan Peninsula (S. America).

[Justplain]

I have several topics to comment on about Atlantis and ancient Egypt:

1. When the demise of Atlantis occurred:
The interesting dilemma, imho, about the Atlantean survivors, is the timing of their supposed exit and when their survivors interacted with populations in the world. Research by scientists figure that the Younger Dryes period marked the big flood, around 8-10k BC. However several other facts put the last of Atlantis much more recent:

a) the mound builders of America have been dated to 3500bc starting with the first mounds in Louisiana. These mounds are linked with red-haired giants.

b) the remnants of noah's arc on Mount ararat in turkey are dated to around 3500bc

c) the invasion of the water people in ancient Greece and Egypt was dated in roughly the same time period.

2). Ancient Egypt is much older than thought:

a) Robert Schock, a geologist from a massachusettes university has geologically dated the Egyptian sphynx to atleast 20k years old (and probably older).

b) the Giza pyramids were built long before the Egyptian dynastic period. The dynastic Egyptians didn't have the tools to cut or transport the stone blocks used in the pyramids construction. Also, the mathematical properties and proportions used in the pyramids' design were of a civilization far more advanced than ours, let alone the dynastic Egyptians.

c) Ground penetrating satellite radar used on the Giza plateau, as reported by Dr. Carmen Boulter, shows hidden labyrinths at multiple levels likely indicating multiple civilizations. The local government refuses to permit excavation of these levels because the results would overturn the current fake egyptologist history narrative, much like gobekli tepe is in turkey. Quite probably one of these underground complexes is Casey's Atlantean Hall of Records.

d) Given 2a,b+c, its fairly obvious that Egypt was a contemporary of Atlantis. The Egyptian history likely goes back a, hundred thousand years or more.

3) Red-haired Giants:
a) The red-haired giant skeletons have been found all over the world. There were apparently remnants of this population in the America's at the time of Columbus' arrival, but they died out, possibly from the newly introduced European diseases, shortly thereafter.

b) in Peracus Peru, as documented by Brien Forster, there have been found the skeletons of red-haired people with elongated skulls, not from cranial deformation, but actually with 25% larger brains. DNA analysis shows that these were unique humans originating likely from the caucasus region of Europe. These people were larger than the locals, whom did not have red hair nor beards, but were not giants. I believe this red-haired population died out somewhere like 2000 years ago.

4) Puma Punku: this ancient Bolivian site near lake titicaca, had very sophisticated architecture and stone block work, at the level of complexity of the ancient Egyptian artifacts. Some of the architectural techniques used here are similar to Egypt's, I believe. Based upon the way the site was constructed, an open minded archaeologist who spent his career examining this site, calculated the age of the ruins to be atleast 25k years old, based upon the astronomical procession of the equinoxes.

5) Conclusion: So, based upon the above, I would conclude that Egypt, or Kemet, was part of a predeluvian global civilization (as evidenced by Puma Punku) contemporary to Atlantis. The red-haired giants are likely survivors of that age who continued on for a long time after the flood. The final timing of the last demise of the Atlantean civilization, and the anti-deluvian civilization (that probably included Lemuria and Atlantis) is hard to pin down. Certainly it was no longer ago than Plato's timing of 10k BC, but is more likely much more recent, like 3500BC. Perhaps the last vestiges of that society had a final cataclysm around then.

[Peter UK]

Cayce gives the following three dates closely associated with the stages of destruction of Atlantis. He states that it wasn't a singular event.

50,000 BCE 1st stage

28,000 BCE 2nd stage

10,000 BCE 3rd and Final stage

I'm just adding the above for purposes of cross referencing in that it may be helpful.

[Bill Ryan]

It's a fascinating topic.

My own opinion (subject to change, and unprovable! :) ) is that Egypt (and the Middle East/ Mesopotamia/ Turkey) is where the few survivors were able to escape to AFTER the cataclysm, where they regrouped and were able to partially teach the local people what they were able to, with comparably limited resources.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Cayce gives the following three dates closely associated with the stages of destruction of Atlantis. He states that it wasn't a singular event.

50,000 BCE 1st stage

28,000 BCE 2nd stage

10,000 BCE 3rd and Final stage



Confirmed by multiple other sources too. Lemuria was different however, and had far more ancient origins than Atlantis. Materially they were very primitive, but mentally/psychically very advanced. They were already long gone with the third destruction of Atlantis. Although you could say, and I do say, there's a 4th stage to the fall of Atlantis.

0 BCE (today).

The original landmass may be gone, but it's heirs are not. We are the continuation of Atlantis, and our modern world with its densities, light/dark polarities and all the karmic struggles, are an extension of that same Atlantean paradigm. One way or another, it's coming to a final conclusion.

[Star Tsar]

I one heard/read that Isis & Osiris fled to Egypt as a result of the deluge...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Jewel_Osiris_family-E_6204-IMG_0641-gradient.jpg/1024px-Jewel_Osiris_family-E_6204-IMG_0641-gradient.jpg

[Ernie Nemeth]

Personally, it is beyond contention that there was a world-wide civilization far back in the mists of time. I also think there were more than one race (probably five or more) involved that had lineages not from earth.

I am also convinced that this fact is actively protected to this day, with organizations tasked with collecting, hiding, and destroying artifacts that cannot or do not fit the accepted narrative.

But they have counted on our ignorance, on our inability to decipher the clues right in front of our eyes - because they cannot hide the largest of the artifacts, nor their predominance at certain latitudes.

The age of these to-big-to-hide monuments and edifices is slowly being unraveled of the psi-op it has been immersed in for far too long.

The truth is out there. It is waiting for those who have successfully removed the blinders imposed on them by their masters. So the proof will be over-whelming.

When the time comes for the unveiling of the occulted much of our way of life will be turned on its ear, along with much of our history and science. It cannot come soon enough for me.

[aceninja]

I have several topics to comment on about Atlantis and ancient Egypt:

1. When the demise of Atlantis occurred:
The interesting dilemma, imho, about the Atlantean survivors, is the timing of their supposed exit and when their survivors interacted with populations in the world. Research by scientists figure that the Younger Dryes period marked the big flood, around 8-10k BC. However several other facts put the last of Atlantis much more recent:

a) the mound builders of America have been dated to 3500bc starting with the first mounds in Louisiana. These mounds are linked with red-haired giants.

b) the remnants of noah's arc on Mount ararat in turkey are dated to around 3500bc

c) the invasion of the water people in ancient Greece and Egypt was dated in roughly the same time period.

2). Ancient Egypt is much older than thought:

a) Robert Schock, a geologist from a massachusettes university has geologically dated the Egyptian sphynx to atleast 20k years old (and probably older).

b) the Giza pyramids were built long before the Egyptian dynastic period. The dynastic Egyptians didn't have the tools to cut or transport the stone blocks used in the pyramids construction. Also, the mathematical properties and proportions used in the pyramids' design were of a civilization far more advanced than ours, let alone the dynastic Egyptians.

c) Ground penetrating satellite radar used on the Giza plateau, as reported by Dr. Carmen Boulter, shows hidden labyrinths at multiple levels likely indicating multiple civilizations. The local government refuses to permit excavation of these levels because the results would overturn the current fake egyptologist history narrative, much like gobekli tepe is in turkey. Quite probably one of these underground complexes is Casey's Atlantean Hall of Records.

d) Given 2a,b+c, its fairly obvious that Egypt was a contemporary of Atlantis. The Egyptian history likely goes back a, hundred thousand years or more.

3) Red-haired Giants:
a) The red-haired giant skeletons have been found all over the world. There were apparently remnants of this population in the America's at the time of Columbus' arrival, but they died out, possibly from the newly introduced European diseases, shortly thereafter.

b) in Peracus Peru, as documented by Brien Forster, there have been found the skeletons of red-haired people with elongated skulls, not from cranial deformation, but actually with 25% larger brains. DNA analysis shows that these were unique humans originating likely from the caucasus region of Europe. These people were larger than the locals, whom did not have red hair nor beards, but were not giants. I believe this red-haired population died out somewhere like 2000 years ago.

4) Puma Punku: this ancient Bolivian site near lake titicaca, had very sophisticated architecture and stone block work, at the level of complexity of the ancient Egyptian artifacts. Some of the architectural techniques used here are similar to Egypt's, I believe. Based upon the way the site was constructed, an open minded archaeologist who spent his career examining this site, calculated the age of the ruins to be atleast 25k years old, based upon the astronomical procession of the equinoxes.

5) Conclusion: So, based upon the above, I would conclude that Egypt, or Kemet, was part of a predeluvian global civilization (as evidenced by Puma Punku) contemporary to Atlantis. The red-haired giants are likely survivors of that age who continued on for a long time after the flood. The final timing of the last demise of the Atlantean civilization, and the anti-deluvian civilization (that probably included Lemuria and Atlantis) is hard to pin down. Certainly it was no longer ago than Plato's timing of 10k BC, but is more likely much more recent, like 3500BC. Perhaps the last vestiges of that society had a final cataclysm around then.


Questions:

1. How are you sure Noah's ark was indeed a boat, assuming the multiple arks found are of the same timeline?
2. How are you sure there was only one deluge?
3. How does this factor in the BEGINNING and the END of the last Ice Age (water freezes and melts)


The Sphinx itself is still a mystery because these monuments always have astrological significance and I agree with your assessment here. The water damage from a deluge timed around the end OR beginning of the last Ice Age would account for the water damage and the last time there was water in the Sahara Desert.

However, I also agree with your assessment of at least 20k years because 11k years ago only accounts for when it was submerged in water, which only means it already existed at that time, but still does not pinpoint when it was created. Given its astrologic significance, it had to be created during not this previous Age of Leo, but the one before that or perhaps the one previous to that.

Thoth mentions in his own words that he placed his ark under the Sphinx, and such a chamber has been recently discovered only recently.

Also, given the sea salt deposits found in the saharan desert, this tells us that the desert was a sea at some point. According to Smithsonian, this change happened over 7 million years ago due to tectonic plate shift.

So, there is scientific data to support multiple waves of Ancient Egypt, assuming an uninterrupted timeline.

Tectonic plate shift would also explain a sinking island.

Given that we developed tectonic weapons in the 21st century, would it be crazy to wonder if a "battle of the gods" happened at some point in the distant past (referenced in Sanskrit writings) that resulted in not only "Atlantis" sinking but also other great land masses sinking in perhaps the Pacific Ocean?

[ZenBaller]

This topic is extremely interesting because most lightworkers nowadays are somehow related to Atlantis. Many abilities blossomed back then and many traumas were created because of their abuse. We still carry much of that pain to the day. It's a major chapter of humanity's history.

I would like to point out that our only source about Atlantis was Plato in his works: Timaeus and Critias. Everything else we have learned about it is based on channelings, clairvoyance etc.. I'm not demoting them in anyway, since Plato's work was also of metaphysical nature. But we have to be really careful about what we believe on the topic. Discernment is key.

Also, given how Atlantis has become a one-sided myth these days, we should acknowledge that the whole story was about two civilizations and the war between them: ancient Athens (protected by Zeus) and Atlantis (at some vague point in time before the war, it was conquered by the armies of Saturn). By "ancient" Greece I do not mean the one we historically know but an ancient-ancient Athens that it looks like it existed before the historically registered one.

Atlanteans were the "villains" of this epic. However, since both sides had their weaknesses and inability to raise their vibration beyond conflict, the events led to the destruction of both. I'm guessing that the total sinking of Atlantis has made it more intriguing and famous in comparison to ancient Athens which managed to continue its civilization in the following millennia.


I'm lucky enough to have been able to read much of the literature written about the topic in Greek (by Greek mystics or meta-historians). Unfortunately a major part of it is not translated in English.

To answer your question based on my relatively big interest on the subject and what resonates with me through the years, is that Egypt was not part of Atlantis. Its culture and science was definitely influenced by Atlantis or ancient Athens, as many other contemporary civilizations.

After the great destruction, the few survivors were scattered around the globe. Some of them went to Egypt, others to South America etc.. Hence there are so many similar symbols and common architecture all over the planet as well as the shockingly good astronomical knowledge we know they possessed.

We can't really tell which side influenced what but the technological and scientific level of both Atlantis and ancient Athens were roughly the same.

To close the post, my feeling is that many of us had incarnated during that war that screwed up the planet and our job now, as lightworkers, is part of our redemption.

[Ratszinger]

RH negative blood, red hair, blond hair, blue eyes, green eyes, Teutonic appearance and depicted in stone carrying purses or pouches, seed bags that they took out with domestic animals to teach survivors of the last cataclysm agriculture and animal husbandry. Neither of these were known about and neither was corn or maze as the natives called it.

All royals and all with the traits listed including all those with RH negative recessive genes are Cro-Magnon descendants. Bigger, stronger, far more intelligent, more mobile, with more athleticism, agility and a brilliant mind these men were the dominant hominids on earth during their time.

What royals know about Cro-Magnon and have kept to themselves is staggering really because what they know, and what the Russian DNA projects conclude is that quite clearly we are not all one human race at all.

In fact we are three different groups. Get that? One group is Cro-Magon, Homo Sapiens Sapiens, Neanderthal with all the traits listed above.
The second group is very similar to the group above but with far less of the Cro-Magnon genes and markers, and the third group or species is Denisovan/Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

These three make up the bulk of the planet and the truth of the matter is while compatible with each other to reproduce there are distinct differences between them. One other thing noted is that the royals of the darker clans without exception have reddish hair in their lines, and lighter skin tones than the bulk of their people they rule over. This because they are related to those ones that ran the show earlier in time when the anatomical differences could more easily be seen between these three lines.

This is also why there is racism on the planet because of the fact there are three different species of hominids and because they created hybrids pushed out and not accepted by either side of their families. In nature rules are set and nature is unforgiving. Early humans were no different than other predator species on the earth. Bigger means stronger and in the wilds of the animal kingdom, even in early hominids, size mattered! Bigger more dominant hominids enslaved smaller less able to defend themselves. And that was how it started. Homo Sapiens Sapiens were abused by all the larger species and the truth is the larger species screwed themselves right into extinction making too many babies with all their slaves because over time we've come to this point. Today you can barely distinguish the differences between these three groups.

[aoibhghaire]

Following on from Post 3.

I don’t know of any DNA analysis of giants, however, it appears that the the genetics of giants with red hair appears to be a common characteristic around the world. Interestingly enough the stereotypical combination of red hair, blue eyes and milky-white skin is the rarest genetic combination on Earth. Fewer than one million people (0.1 percent of the global human population) possess this genetic combination. But these people are not giants. It doesn't mean there is a connection between giants with red heads and red hair people today. But its an interesting manifestation that there are living red haired people. It doesn't mean that giants had blue eyes, milky white skin.

Interestingly enough when examining further for a source/locations/origin, Ireland has the highest concentration of red-haired genes in the world. Throughout history, pockets of redheads have been found scattered across the globe. These descendants of ancient people include the Phoenicians, Hebrews, Berbers and Indo-European Aryans. Red-haired mummies have been found all over the world, including in New Zealand, China, Peru and Alaska.

Hundreds of fair and red-haired mummies have been found across Egypt. The Egyptian Pharaoh Ramesses II had red hair, as did at least six other pharaohs. Despite claims to the contrary, it has been conclusively proven that Ramesses’ hair was naturally red and was not coloured red as the result of a dye pigment or the embalming process. The legendary Cleopatra is also said to have had red hair.

Further evidence backs up the possible Ireland/Egypt connection. In genetics, a haplogroup is a group from the human family tree that traces back to one individual ancestor. The Irish are part of the same genetic haplogroup as the lineage of the pharaohs. The highest concentration of Pharaoh Tutankhamun’s Haplogroup R-M269 is found in Ireland while Tutankhamun’s grandmother also had red hair.

This may be a stretch but maybe there is the Atlantis connection where people may have been originally red heads. Egyptian literature of early dynasties indicates these red haired people coming from an island in the west. Again there is no evidence to come to this conclusion, but an interesting possibility.

[Lone Eagle]

Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories.

The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas . The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind.

Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.

In Atlantean mythology, Atlas has 7 daughters who spent all their time guarding and dancing around the "ceremonial column" (Tree of Life). In your body you have 7 energy centers (chakras) dancing around your spine.

The pineal gland (6th chakra, the third-eye) lies at the geometrical center point of the brain and it resembles a bullseye. Atlantis was described as a bullseye.

Atlantis sunk, for those that never raised the energy through the seven seals. The Universe is a cyclic cosmic clock, and the light retreats from mankind every 13,000 years, this is the sinking or submerging of consciousness to the lower ego mind, Atlantis sinking. The golden age of Aquarius, is Atlantis rising, one returning back to source, unconditioned free consciousness.

The most sacred secrets of the Masons and world Royalty pertain to the chakra/energetic system,

[Michael Hawk]

Atlantis is real. Just as are many other ancient stories.
YMMV

[onawah]

Another Avalonian for my Ignore List!
You have been given notice, so no point in replying to this, Lone Eagle.
There is overwhelming evidence now of Atlantis having existed, right down to the underwater ruins of Atlantean colonies discovered all over the world.
To post such an opinion as you have without having done your research just makes you look silly on a forum like this, where so much of that evidence has been posted.

Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories.

The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas . The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind.

Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.

In Atlantean mythology, Atlas has 7 daughters who spent all their time guarding and dancing around the "ceremonial column" (Tree of Life). In your body you have 7 energy centers (chakras) dancing around your spine.

The pineal gland (6th chakra, the third-eye) lies at the geometrical center point of the brain and it resembles a bullseye. Atlantis was described as a bullseye.

Atlantis sunk, for those that never raised the energy through the seven seals. The Universe is a cyclic cosmic clock, and the light retreats from mankind every 13,000 years, this is the sinking or submerging of consciousness to the lower ego mind, Atlantis sinking. The golden age of Aquarius, is Atlantis rising, one returning back to source, unconditioned free consciousness.

The most sacred secrets of the Masons and world Royalty pertain to the chakra/energetic system,

[Justplain]

Hi aceninja,

Regarding your questions:

1. How are you sure Noah's ark was indeed a boat, assuming the multiple arks found are of the time timeline?

Ans: I would think that multiple craft escaped the final deluge, of which biblical noah's was one. There have been anomalous craft found on mount ararat, and its vicinity, and the carbon dating of one of those wrecks put it at @3.5k bc. Here's a short vid on one such discovery:

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2. How are you sure there was only one deluge?

Ans: No, I make no assertion that there was only one deluge. The one mentioned in the Bible was the last one, the most recent. Plato refers to it as when Atlantis was submerged. I have no knowledge or proof to contradict Cayce's assertion that Atlantis went down in stages.

3. How does this factor in the BEGINNING and the END of the last Ice Age (water freezes and melts)

Ans: the end of the last Ice Age was a weird event. Graham Hancock describes how it appears that a comet hit North America causing massive melting of the ice sheet. There may also have been a tectonic shift simultaneously, evidenced by Siberian wildlife being flash frozen that we can still extract wooly mamoths from the ice with undigested food in their stomachs.

Another piece of evidence of a tectonic shift is the Piri Reis map, produced in the early 16th century based upon older maps by a Turkish admiral. The surviving fragments of the map clearly show an ice free coastline identical to Antarctica. However, Antarctica seems to extend east from Argentina into the Indian ocean south of South africa.

If parts of Antarctica was a land in temperate climates, and then it suffered a sudden massive tectonic shift southward, then the civilization present there would have been flash frozen too. Perhaps this is why there is so much interest in antarctica by the American alphabet agencies?

So, I think there is merit in Hancock's theory of a comet strike. It's also quite possible a tectonic shift took place at the same time.

Hancock dates this meltdown at @10k bc. This is quite plausible. However, the dates attributed to the mound builders, noah's ark and the water people invasions of the eastern Mediterranean point to something else occurring more recently. I am just wondering if we are missing a piece of the puzzle that would explain the 6.5k year difference?

[Metaphor]

@Lone Eagle & Onawah, why not say it could actually be both?

Here's the quite intersting lyrics to a song by the band Therion. The intersting thing is that the external writer of the lyrics to the band is a top swedish occultist that has insight in the mysteries.
(Dont listen to the song itself, its horrible)

the crowning of Atlantis

Circles on the surface
Speak of the ancient who fell from grace
Through their use of magic
They became a legend of old days.

Waters of the Dream world
Show pictures from the Land of Before
A continent of dream
That you could watch on a foreign shore.

On the strand sand dune
Strike waves of Neptune.

From the tales of Solon
To the depth of astral memory
The legend of Atlantis
Will appear from the Great Old Sea.

Dive into the abyss
To find the lost luciferic crown
And put it on the head
Of the ruler of the sunken town.

On the strand sand dune
Strike waves of Neptune.

In the Crowning of Atlantis
Memories will rise from the hidden stream of consciousness
Up to the surface of the sea.
Atlantis bear once again the Crown of Drakon To Agharti

Zodee-en ten Par-geh
Sod-are…

[Tintin]

Yes, @Metaphor, :thumbsup: I do agree that both angles of perception need to be accepted to gain further insight and understanding. The allegory and the archaeology do both need to be considered and applied.

Here's what the pineal gland looks like and its representation in the Eye of Heru/Horus:

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Also, the White Crown (Thymus gland) and the Red Crown (denoting the placenta) often referred to as the crowns of Upper and Lower Egypt, are but two other examples of many where the *Kemetians/Egyptians used symbolism of this nature.

We've a copy of the Pyramid Code in the Avalon Library (http://avalonlibrary.net/) too where a little more of that is covered by a learned man in the film, with this esoteric knowledge, being asked for the meanings of some of this symbolism.

*Khem-Kemet: the original name of Egypt which although analogous to the human body is also another most likely origin of the word Al-Kemey/Alchemy.

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Related, and for those of you, as I most certainly am, interested in the extraordinary area of remote viewing may find something that will interest you in the following Farsight Institute blind target study on Atlantis.

Again, we've a folder dedicated to the Institute's work (search 'farsight' in the library and it should be a breeze to locate)

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You should find it really quite an eye-opener :)

[Lone Eagle]

Thanks for your comment Metaphor! I kind of like some of those verses like In the Crowning of Atlantis Memories will rise from the hidden stream of CONSCIOUSNESS. You rise from the subconscious mind, the unconscious levels of the mind to a new transformed consciousness. That is what that myth I feel is about. When you raise the serpent that lies at the base of your spine up your spine thru the seven seals and it reaches the pineal gland (Atlantis) you remember who you really are. I like your name Metaphor because I think that is what most ancient stories are and they were written that way to hide the truth. I personally do not believe there was a literal physical Atlantis even though the History Channel may disagree with me. This same story is hidden in the Bible metahpors but it is hidden. The Bible in its current form was put together in 1611 by Freemason King James the 1st of England and the editor was Freemason Sir Francis Bacon (maybe the greatest story teller that ever lived). That is why you get scriptures like Matt. 13:10-11 "the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you but not to them" with them being the unitiated. I will end with a quote that I think nails it. “Half the people in the world think that the metaphors of their religious traditions, for example, are facts. And the other half contends that they are not facts at all. As a result we have people who consider themselves believers because they accept metaphors as facts, and we have others who classify themselves as atheists because they think religious metaphors are lies.”
― Joseph Campbell, Thou Art That: Transforming Religious Metaphor

[spade]

Makes sense that relatively close by is the Eye of the Sahara.

[Peter UK]

Cayce gives the following three dates closely associated with the stages of destruction of Atlantis. He states that it wasn't a singular event.

50,000 BCE 1st stage

28,000 BCE 2nd stage

10,000 BCE 3rd and Final stage



Confirmed by multiple other sources too. Lemuria was different however, and had far more ancient origins than Atlantis. Materially they were very primitive, but mentally/psychically very advanced. They were already long gone with the third destruction of Atlantis. Although you could say, and I do say, there's a 4th stage to the fall of Atlantis.

0 BCE (today).

The original landmass may be gone, but it's heirs are not. We are the continuation of Atlantis, and our modern world with its densities, light/dark polarities and all the karmic struggles, are an extension of that same Atlantean paradigm. One way or another, it's coming to a final conclusion.

Svali, well known Illuminati whistleblower, has recounted in some detail their position on this and how seriously they take the beliefs you have alluded to here, in particular being the Atlantean heirs of such polarities involving ritual magic.

[Mike Gorman]

Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories.

The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas . The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind.

Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.

In Atlantean mythology, Atlas has 7 daughters who spent all their time guarding and dancing around the "ceremonial column" (Tree of Life). In your body you have 7 energy centers (chakras) dancing around your spine.

The pineal gland (6th chakra, the third-eye) lies at the geometrical center point of the brain and it resembles a bullseye. Atlantis was described as a bullseye.

Atlantis sunk, for those that never raised the energy through the seven seals. The Universe is a cyclic cosmic clock, and the light retreats from mankind every 13,000 years, this is the sinking or submerging of consciousness to the lower ego mind, Atlantis sinking. The golden age of Aquarius, is Atlantis rising, one returning back to source, unconditioned free consciousness.

The most sacred secrets of the Masons and world Royalty pertain to the chakra/energetic system,

As above, so below; in other words structures and patterns of energy, the very formation of matter/energy replicates in all things. Rather like the hologram, and fractals - the structure of nature, the fundamental layout of our universe is replicated in everything that is manifested, everything which emerges from our universe. The fact that the human vertebrae has 33 bones, and we call the pivotal element 'Atlas' is a function of this replicated order. In the same way that the 'mosaic' coding for web browsers unconsciously replicates the underlying order in space/time/matter (according to one American physicist); this just happens to be one of the 'keys' for creation - we have discovered how to create worlds, within worlds via virtuality, because we now understand this relationship in the underlying order of reality. What I am saying is: The mythology of Atlantis is certainly recognised, but the 'co-incidental' patterns you describe are not necessarily a refutation of whether Atlantis actually existed, they are a result of the entire replication of the implicate order as proposed by David Bohm I would say. No offense intended.

[Ratszinger]

Atlantis simply means "CITY OF ATLAS" which tells you right there it was never a continent in the first place it's a city everyone should be looking for not a long lost continent that disappeared but aside from this Atlas did exist so it stands to reason that somewhere there was a city if not more than one in his honor named after him.

[Justjane]

Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories.

The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas . The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind.

Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.

In Atlantean mythology, Atlas has 7 daughters who spent all their time guarding and dancing around the "ceremonial column" (Tree of Life). In your body you have 7 energy centers (chakras) dancing around your spine.

The pineal gland (6th chakra, the third-eye) lies at the geometrical center point of the brain and it resembles a bullseye. Atlantis was described as a bullseye.

Atlantis sunk, for those that never raised the energy through the seven seals. The Universe is a cyclic cosmic clock, and the light retreats from mankind every 13,000 years, this is the sinking or submerging of consciousness to the lower ego mind, Atlantis sinking. The golden age of Aquarius, is Atlantis rising, one returning back to source, unconditioned free consciousness.

The most sacred secrets of the Masons and world Royalty pertain to the chakra/energetic system,

So 🙌 much 🙌 this 🙌

All of the myths are allegory for the awakening process, including the bible. So lovely to see this here.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Atlantis simply means "CITY OF ATLAS" which tells you right there it was never a continent in the first place

No, it doesn't. It means Island of Atlas. Plato tells Us:

"...for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean...."

Don't buy into the lies! Atlantis was a continent, a fact settled thousands of years ago. Those who claim it was just a 'city' are the same who insist you look over here at Santorini for the answer, or the Sahara, Malta, Sardinia, Ireland, South America. Atlantis is and always was in the mid-Atlantic. As a continent.

Most by now must surely be aware of the meddlers and magicians and fake-history constructionists that oversee our paradigm of lies. They promote countless books and countless more television series on just RED HERRINGS. They perform every possible trick to keep people thinking conventional, mundane, and small, anything and everything to keep you off-scent and off-target. Atlantis is just one instance. They also concoct 'persuasive' evidence of Bigfoot being a myth, or just a bear, and Roswell being a weather balloon, or maybe a stray missile. And so on and so on. Wake up and smell the crap. We live in an era of deception, fraud, and suppressed truth. It's essential to their narrative that they keep the public oblivious to things like highly advanced antediluvian civilizations -- to the fact that the last 2,000 years is just a blip on the vast timeline of REAL human history.

[Justjane]

Atlantis simply means "CITY OF ATLAS" which tells you right there it was never a continent in the first place

No, it doesn't. It means Island of Atlas. Plato tells Us:

"...for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean...."

Don't buy into the lies! Atlantis was a continent, a fact settled thousands of years ago. Those who claim it was just a 'city' are the same who insist you look over here at Santorini for the answer, or the Sahara, Malta, Sardinia, Ireland, South America. Atlantis is and always was in the mid-Atlantic. As a continent.

Most by now must surely be aware of the meddlers and magicians and fake-history constructionists that oversee our paradigm of lies. They promote countless books and countless more television series on just RED HERRINGS. They perform every possible trick to keep people thinking conventional, mundane, and small, anything and everything to keep you off-scent and off-target. Atlantis is just one instance. They also concoct 'persuasive' evidence of Bigfoot being a myth, or just a bear, and Roswell being a weather balloon, or maybe a stray missile. And so on and so on. Wake up and smell the crap. We live in an era of deception, fraud, and suppressed truth. It's essential to their narrative that they keep the public oblivious to things like highly advanced antediluvian civilizations -- to the fact that the last 2,000 years is just a blip on the vast timeline of REAL human history.

Seriously? There is no doubt that ancient civilisations with extraordinary technologies existed but Plato was a philosopher, not a historian and like the bible, he specifically states that he talks in allegory. No actual Greek historian ever mentions Atlantis.

The fall of Atlantis is similar to the story of Noah’s Ark and describe what happen when we lose touch with our divinity. Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein. The story of Noah’s Ark is especially pertinent at this time given what we’re seeing on our planet at the moment.

The bible warned us of a time when corruption and violence would overtake the planet. Whilst some would argue this has always been true, it’s never been more so now and we’ve never had such capacity to do such damage. Noah’s Ark asks us to heed the call when the signs present themselves to build our own ark to protect ourselves and our family from the approaching storm.

Building the ark means engaging in meditation and opening a direct channel to God/Source/The Universe rather than listening to our neighbours or leaders so that we can escape the storm and the resulting chaos and violence and be placed safely on the mountain top, finding oneness with Christ Consciousness. Noah took 7 with him into the ark thereby representing the 7 chakras. He also took 2 of every animal, one of each gender, representing our logic and emotion and every personality derivative or archetype.

In Genesis 6:16 it says: A window shall you make to the ark, and in a cubit shall you finish it above; so we are warned to keep our focus above the events happening around us similar to when Peter was walking on water and Jesus told him not to look down otherwise he would sink.

We ignore these messages at our peril. We have to decide if there is now enough evidence that should encourage us to be a Noah and begin to build our meditative ark so we might be saved out of the coming storm. My senses tell me that time is here.

[Andre]

Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories. The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas. The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind. Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.

If we're using Plato's expose on Atlantis to dismiss it's existence, that is a real stretch because he went into a lengthy description of Atlantean life, its culture, geography, the life and layout of its biggest city and of course the wars with Athens which it obviously tried to conquer in it 's later days. No, based on Plato alone, Atlantis was very real indeed.

[Jayke]

Seriously? There is no doubt that ancient civilisations with extraordinary technologies existed but Plato was a philosopher, not a historian and like the bible, he specifically states that he talks in allegory. No actual Greek historian ever mentions Atlantis
The fall of Atlantis is similar to the story of Noah’s Ark and describe what happen when we lose touch with our divinity. Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein. The story of Noah’s Ark is especially pertinent at this time given what we’re seeing on our planet at the moment.

The bible warned us of a time when corruption and violence would overtake the planet. Whilst some would argue this has always been true, it’s never been more so now and we’ve never had such capacity to do such damage. Noah’s Ark asks us to heed the call when the signs present themselves to build our own ark to protect ourselves and our family from the approaching storm.

Building the ark means engaging in meditation and opening a direct channel to God/Source/The Universe rather than listening to our neighbours or leaders so that we can escape the storm and the resulting chaos and violence and be placed safely on the mountain top, finding oneness with Christ Consciousness. Noah took 7 with him into the ark thereby representing the 7 chakras. He also took 2 of every animal, one of each gender, representing our logic and emotion and every personality derivative or archetype.

In Genesis 6:16 it says: A window shall you make to the ark, and in a cubit shall you finish it above; so we are warned to keep our focus above the events happening around us similar to when Peter was walking on water and Jesus told him not to look down otherwise he would sink.

We ignore these messages at our peril. We have to decide if there is now enough evidence that should encourage us to be a Noah and begin to build our meditative ark so we might be saved out of the coming storm. My senses tell me that time is here.

‘As Above, So Below’, the same developmental cycles the human psyche goes through, the planet as a whole also goes through those same cycles.

Robert Sepehr did a video on Atlantis earlier this week, where he points out Herodotus, the Greek historian, also talked about Atlantis before Plato was even born. It was definitely a real place, with real history. As well as being a metaphor for spiritual growth. Ancient myths and legends were adept at encoding multiples layers of truth within their narratives.

“History is the one true philosophy and one true psychology” as Napoleon once said.

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Another example is to be found in Book IV of The Histories[1239] where he mentions the Atlantes as being vegetarians and never dreaming (v.184). This apparently strange comment may be explained by the fact that vegetarians are frequently short of vitamin B6, which is recognised today as leading to the suppression of dreams.

[Peter UK]

Edgar Cayce seemed to be quite involved with the whole subject matter of Atlantis from a spiritual and reincarnational point of view.

Here's what he has written concerning the landmass:

Atlantis was originally a Continent but the destructive energies were so bad that it split into 5 islands, it then further lost two of those islands which were sunk as the gradual decline continued.

[Justjane]

Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories. The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas. The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind. Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.

If we're using Plato's expose on Atlantis to dismiss it's existence, that is a real stretch because he went into a lengthy description of Atlantean life, its culture, geography, the life and layout of its biggest city and of course the wars with Athens which it obviously tried to conquer in it 's later days. No, based on Plato alone, Atlantis was very real indeed.

That is quite typical. Esoteric knowledge comprising the keys to awakening and important astrological and numerological information are contained within these ancient texts, their information deliberately disguised to prevent it falling into the wrong hands and ensuring it would only be understood by the initiates.

I haven’t studied Plato extensively, I’m more a student of the bible, but in quickly assessing his texts about Atlantis, the signs are all there. What’s interesting though is that I’ve spent the day looking at others interpretations of the story and my conclusion is the opposite. From my analysis, the Atlanteans lost touch with their emotional nature.

[Justjane]

Seriously? There is no doubt that ancient civilisations with extraordinary technologies existed but Plato was a philosopher, not a historian and like the bible, he specifically states that he talks in allegory. No actual Greek historian ever mentions Atlantis
The fall of Atlantis is similar to the story of Noah’s Ark and describe what happen when we lose touch with our divinity. Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein. The story of Noah’s Ark is especially pertinent at this time given what we’re seeing on our planet at the moment.

The bible warned us of a time when corruption and violence would overtake the planet. Whilst some would argue this has always been true, it’s never been more so now and we’ve never had such capacity to do such damage. Noah’s Ark asks us to heed the call when the signs present themselves to build our own ark to protect ourselves and our family from the approaching storm.

Building the ark means engaging in meditation and opening a direct channel to God/Source/The Universe rather than listening to our neighbours or leaders so that we can escape the storm and the resulting chaos and violence and be placed safely on the mountain top, finding oneness with Christ Consciousness. Noah took 7 with him into the ark thereby representing the 7 chakras. He also took 2 of every animal, one of each gender, representing our logic and emotion and every personality derivative or archetype.

In Genesis 6:16 it says: A window shall you make to the ark, and in a cubit shall you finish it above; so we are warned to keep our focus above the events happening around us similar to when Peter was walking on water and Jesus told him not to look down otherwise he would sink.

We ignore these messages at our peril. We have to decide if there is now enough evidence that should encourage us to be a Noah and begin to build our meditative ark so we might be saved out of the coming storm. My senses tell me that time is here.

‘As Above, So Below’, the same developmental cycles the human psyche goes through, the planet as a whole also goes through those same cycles.

Robert Sepehr did a video on Atlantis earlier this week, where he points out Herodotus, the Greek historian, also talked about Atlantis before Plato was even born. It was definitely a real place, with real history. As well as being a metaphor for spiritual growth. Ancient myths and legends were adept at encoding multiples layers of truth within their narratives.

That is true but Herodotus didn’t talk about Atlantis.

If we are going to use Plato as the source for Atlantis, which we should since no one else has confirmed its existence, there’s no mention of special technology or the like, and he clearly gives the location. Either you trust the guy or you don’t....

[Peter UK]

Plato declared the origin of the story of Atlantis to have been Egyptian as it was brought to Athens from Egypt by Solon.

Solon (c.630- c.560 BC) was an Athenian magistrate who had travelled amongst the Egyptian priesthood and they told him the story about the destruction of a powerful civilisation many thousands of years earlier through flood and that it was absolutely true and dated the event to about BCE 9000.

In the Critias there is some reference to these notes of Solon

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Seriously?

Yes. I couldn't possibly be MORE serious.

You are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, but beliefs are always limited by, and to, the information one has accessed. Consider what you haven't. First, there are mountains of scholarly works, beyond Plato, which would most certainly enhance your resident knowledge. An excellent beginning, a book that gathers centuries of analysis, research and evidence all in one place, is called Atlantis and the Cycles of Time by Joscelyn Godwin. You could study the theosophists too, read Graham Hancock, or the works of Cayce and the tie-in with real discoveries made in Bimini.

To dismiss Atlantis as a myth, a metaphor, is beyond sloppy, it's just ignorant. Strong words I don't use lightly, and no offence meant. People write off UFOs too having not read a single book about it, or spent a single second looking into the subject. Yet they think that somehow their 'belief' (or non-belief) is still valid. It isn't. Many people on this board - myself included - don't just believe in Atlantis, we know. Because we were there. Some of us have ACTUAL past life memories of that land and those times. Yes, Seriously.

We know.


Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein.

How?? If we take them as a metaphor we only end up fabricating abstract meanings to fit our desired narrative. Which you did with Noah's Ark. A convenient but terrible way to interpret history. Sometimes a story is just a story. Or in the case of Noah, a 'scrambled' account of real events recorded by folklore and passed down the generations. There's no doubt whatsoever that a extensive flood did devastate the ancient world. Maybe there was indeed a Noah, and an Ark, but that tale was most definitely embellished and distorted (centuries after the event by scribes who were not present) to generate a parable - and that's where the peril lies: if we get hung up on metaphor, we may miss the most important thing. In the story of Noah it's: there was once an ancient flood that devastated the ancient world. That really happened, it's recorded by cultures around the globe.

The peril lies in writing off History as purely myth, metaphor, and misrepresentation. If we think the ancients were confused, ignorant, superstitious fools writing down only metaphors and fairytales, it is we who are the fools.

[Jayke]

That is true but Herodotus didn’t talk about Atlantis.

If we are going to use Plato as the source for Atlantis, which we should since no one else has confirmed its existence, there’s no mention of special technology or the like, and he clearly gives the location. Either you trust the guy or you don’t....

Already posted the Herodotus reference where he mentions Atlantis 60 years before Plato does. Here it is again incase you missed it the first time around.

Herodotus — ‘The Histories‘ Book IV v184:


http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Herodotus/4G*.html


184 Rawlinson p162 H & W After another ten days' journey from the Garamantes there is again a salt hillock and water; men dwell there called Atarantes. They are the only men known to us who have no names; for the whole people are called Atarantes, but no man has a name of his own. These when the sun is exceeding hot curse and most foully revile him, for that his burning heat afflicts their people and their land. After another ten days' journey there is again a hillock of salt, and water, and men dwelling there. Near to this salt is a mountain called Atlas, the shape p389 whereof is slender and a complete circle; and it is said to be so high that its summits cannot be seen, for cloud is ever upon them winter and summer. The people of the country call it the pillar of heaven. These men have got their name, which is Atlantes, from this mountain. It is said that they eat no living creature, and see no dreams in their sleep.

[Bluegreen]

Personally, I think "The Jetsons" should've been called "The Flintstones"

;)

[shaberon]

I would say Atlantis is a combination.

Plato derived his knowledge from Egypt, didn't make it up.

It may simultaneously mean the main island, an epoch of the entire world, and be related to metaphysics. Certainly, in Indian metaphysics, the land is about the same as the human being, they are equal, one is outer, one is inner. The whole principle is that there is a related continuity from stellar constellations through the earth into your body and psychology.

The difference with Egypt is there is not much continuity from its classical culture. Tons of time has been spent by people attempting to re-create it; India does not have this problem.

Does India have antediluvian features, such as Dwarka and Adam's Bridge? It does.

Did it float over from Africa? Probably not.

There is zero observable evidence of tectonic plate drift. The plates may move a few meters or perhaps a few hundred meters laterally, but, the metaphysical idea is more that they rise and fall vertically. There is a modern school of this with degreed professional scientists, which is heavily banned/ostracized/suppressed by the establishment.

Around the time of the discovery of the Rosetta stone, attempts to understand some of the Egyptian lore probably did represent western man's metaphysical peak. But it gets messy quick. So I don't get deeply involved with it.

[onawah]

Dark Journalist's X series of youtube episodes are often focused on the "Hot Zone" off the shore of Cuba, where there are underwater ruins from the the time of Atlantis, as well as other ruins from that time period and other evidence that Atlantis really existed.
Edgar Cayce's readings play into that quite a bit as well, and corroboration of those readings.
The evidence has been presented somewhat chronologically, as DJ finds it, so it's best to start at the beginning of each of his series of programs, but not absolutely necessary.
Though he will refer back to previous shows frequently, and unless you've listened to those, of course, you may not know what he's referring to.
His latest in the X Series here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZlzfNdx9E4
... wouldn't be a bad place to start to understand more about the significance of the "Hot Zone" and why it is a very hot, though largely secret topic.

[Justjane]

Seriously?

Yes. I couldn't possibly be MORE serious.

You are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, but beliefs are always limited by, and to, the information one has accessed. Consider what you haven't. First, there are mountains of scholarly works, beyond Plato, which would most certainly enhance your resident knowledge. An excellent beginning, a book that gathers centuries of analysis, research and evidence all in one place, is called Atlantis and the Cycles of Time by Joscelyn Godwin. You could study the theosophists too, read Graham Hancock, or the works of Cayce and the tie-in with real discoveries made in Bimini.

To dismiss Atlantis as a myth, a metaphor, is beyond sloppy, it's just ignorant. Strong words I don't use lightly, and no offence meant. People write off UFOs too having not read a single book about it, or spent a single second looking into the subject. Yet they think that somehow their 'belief' (or non-belief) is still valid. It isn't. Many people on this board - myself included - don't just believe in Atlantis, we know. Because we were there. Some of us have ACTUAL past life memories of that land and those times. Yes, Seriously.

We know.


Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein.

How?? If we take them as a metaphor we only end up fabricating abstract meanings to fit our desired narrative. Which you did with Noah's Ark. A convenient but terrible way to interpret history. Sometimes a story is just a story. Or in the case of Noah, a 'scrambled' account of real events recorded by folklore and passed down the generations. There's no doubt whatsoever that a extensive flood did devastate the ancient world. Maybe there was indeed a Noah, and an Ark, but that tale was most definitely embellished and distorted (centuries after the event by scribes who were not present) to generate a parable - and that's where the peril lies: if we get hung up on metaphor, we may miss the most important thing. In the story of Noah it's: there was once an ancient flood that devastated the ancient world. That really happened, it's recorded by cultures around the globe.

The peril lies in writing off History as purely myth, metaphor, and misrepresentation. If we think the ancients were confused, ignorant, superstitious fools writing down only metaphors and fairytales, it is we who are the fools.

Again, seriously? We see this upside down and backwards. I see historical determinism as the most juvenile interpretation and it’s transformation into myth and magic it’s elevation. The ancients were not confused, ignorant, superstitious fools writing metaphors and fairytales, that is just absurd, these writings are perfect, did you not read my other comments? These texts are examples of esoteric writings which contain the tools to our awakening along with important astrological and numerological information and prophesy. Fairytales? Seriously? I just can’t.

Imagining Noah’s Ark is about a flood is insulting to anyone who wrote it or read it. We are urged to develop a relationship with Christ consciousness so that we might foresee danger and rise above it so as to not get caught in the quagmire. Human beings have lost touch with their ability to be, their intuition, their natural instincts and their connection to all including Mother Earth. Awakening brings us back in alignment. Do you remember the tsunami in South East Asia and the reports of animals fleeing for safety before the deluge hit? This is why reconnection is so important.

Did a cataclysmic flood happen? Maybe. Have cataclysmic events happened on earth before and will they happen again? Most definitely.

I really don’t think proving a flood happened is the important takeaway here.

As to Atlantis. It’s a story about balance. Poseidon settles Atlantis with his progeny. Poseidon is the god of the ocean, or the god of emotion. He married a woman, marriage symbolises union with Christ consciousness, and they had 10 sons, 10 is the symbol of perfection. Indeed, the entire story is about how perfect Atlantis was. The god of emotion had 10 sons (logic). A perfect union of reason and emotion. But Atlantis fell out of balance. They became too focussed on logic and reasoning. Everything worked so perfectly and life was so easy and peacefully that they were no longer moved by things ordinary humans would prize. They lost touch with their humanity (emotion).

I’m not arguing that ancient civilisations with extraordinary technology didn’t exist, I’m arguing that that isn’t the takeaway here and many of you are wasting your time thinking it does.

[Justjane]

That is true but Herodotus didn’t talk about Atlantis.

If we are going to use Plato as the source for Atlantis, which we should since no one else has confirmed its existence, there’s no mention of special technology or the like, and he clearly gives the location. Either you trust the guy or you don’t....

Already posted the Herodotus reference where he mentions Atlantis 60 years before Plato does. Here it is again incase you missed it the first time around.

Herodotus — ‘The Histories‘ Book IV v184:


http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Herodotus/4G*.html


184 Rawlinson p162 H & W After another ten days' journey from the Garamantes there is again a salt hillock and water; men dwell there called Atarantes. They are the only men known to us who have no names; for the whole people are called Atarantes, but no man has a name of his own. These when the sun is exceeding hot curse and most foully revile him, for that his burning heat afflicts their people and their land. After another ten days' journey there is again a hillock of salt, and water, and men dwelling there. Near to this salt is a mountain called Atlas, the shape p389 whereof is slender and a complete circle; and it is said to be so high that its summits cannot be seen, for cloud is ever upon them winter and summer. The people of the country call it the pillar of heaven. These men have got their name, which is Atlantes, from this mountain. It is said that they eat no living creature, and see no dreams in their sleep.

Ahh, haven’t come across that before. I didn’t think to search Atlas. Atlas here though is a mountain, not an island, and there’s no mention of their amazing culture and technology.

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Plato declared the origin of the story of Atlantis to have been Egyptian as it was brought to Athens from Egypt by Solon.

Solon (c.630- c.560 BC) was an Athenian magistrate who had travelled amongst the Egyptian priesthood and they told him the story about the destruction of a powerful civilisation many thousands of years earlier through flood and that it was absolutely true and dated the event to about BCE 9000.

In the Critias there is some reference to these notes of Solon

This more confirms that Atlantis as metaphor theory since the Egyptians are known metaphysical masters.

[Wind]

There is far too much evidence to corroborate that Atlantis was far more than a myth. It was as real as anything. Many people living right now are Atlanteans reincarnated. The most important work and info about this topic has come from Edgar Cayce, Graham Hancock and the likes of that. Also this is what the Law of One (perhaps the purest channeled material ever) says about the subject:


Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of this work. The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities.

They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions. The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately five three oh oh oh, fifty-three thousand [53,000] of your years ago. It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere’s tectonic plates through no action of their own. They set out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you have come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities. Like the other incarnates of this cycle, they came from elsewhere. However, these particular entities were largely drawn from a second-density planet which had some difficulty, due to the age of its sun, in achieving third-density life conditions. This planet was from the galaxy Deneb.

The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately three one oh oh oh, thirty-one thousand [31,000] years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately one five oh oh oh, fifteen thousand [15,000] of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative.

Approximately eleven thousand [11,000] of your years ago, the first of the, what you call, wars, caused approximately forty percent of this population to leave the density by means of disintegration of the body. The second and most devastating of the conflicts occurred approximately one oh eight two one, ten thousand eight hundred twenty-one [10,821] years in the past according to your illusion. This created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of Atlantis was no more, having been inundated. Three of the positively oriented of the Atlantean groups left this geographical locus before that devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call Tibet, what you call Peru, and what you call Turkey.

[Jayke]

That is true but Herodotus didn’t talk about Atlantis.

If we are going to use Plato as the source for Atlantis, which we should since no one else has confirmed its existence, there’s no mention of special technology or the like, and he clearly gives the location. Either you trust the guy or you don’t....

Already posted the Herodotus reference where he mentions Atlantis 60 years before Plato does. Here it is again incase you missed it the first time around.

Herodotus — ‘The Histories‘ Book IV v184:


http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Herodotus/4G*.html


184 Rawlinson p162 H & W After another ten days' journey from the Garamantes there is again a salt hillock and water; men dwell there called Atarantes. They are the only men known to us who have no names; for the whole people are called Atarantes, but no man has a name of his own. These when the sun is exceeding hot curse and most foully revile him, for that his burning heat afflicts their people and their land. After another ten days' journey there is again a hillock of salt, and water, and men dwelling there. Near to this salt is a mountain called Atlas, the shape p389 whereof is slender and a complete circle; and it is said to be so high that its summits cannot be seen, for cloud is ever upon them winter and summer. The people of the country call it the pillar of heaven. These men have got their name, which is Atlantes, from this mountain. It is said that they eat no living creature, and see no dreams in their sleep.

Ahh, haven’t come across that before. I didn’t think to search Atlas. Atlas here though is a mountain, not an island, and there’s no mention of their amazing culture and technology.

Well yeah, he’s talking about the descendants of Atlantis who are still alive during his time of writing in 400BC. Quite a big gulf of time from the sinking of the original island. Makes sense they would’ve moved to the North West coast of Africa to establish a new colony.

Herodotus does offer 3 threads to follow though for any astute researcher:

1. First his spelling of Atlantis is Atlantes. Atlantes is also an architectural style for standing stones with human or animal depictions carved onto them:


http://atlantipedia.ie/samples/atlantes/


Atlantes is an architectural term used to describe supporting columns in the form of standing or kneeling men, but in ancient times it was the name given by Herodotus, sixty years before Plato, to the inhabitants of the ancient kingdom of Mauretania in north west Africa. The term is also applied to the 15-foot statues in Tula, Mexico.
http://atlantipedia.ie/samples/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Atlantes.jpg

2. The name Atarantes. Even Diodorus Siculus was writing about the Atalantoi people in 30BC. Try the book Survivors of Atlantis: Their impact on World Culture (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Survivors-Atlantis-Their-Impact-Culture/dp/1591430402/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=9781591439653&linkCode=qs&qid=1595203598&s=books&sr=1-1) by Frank Joseph. Particularly chapter 7 for an enlightening read.

3. Atlas, king of Atlantis, had 7 daughters. One of whom was Maia. Maia, or Maya (progenitor of the Mayan culture). Maia also happened to be the mother of Hermes in the Greek myths (Egyptian culture and Greek Pythagoreanism). Freddy Silva covers the Atlantis-Mayan connection with a huge amount of evidence based, architectural and anthropological data in his book The Missing Lands: Uncovering Earth's Pre-flood Civilization (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Missing-Lands-Uncovering-Pre-flood-Civilization/dp/0578482193).

It’s pretty hard to argue Atlantis is only a metaphorical concept when we have an entire world full of evidence that tells us otherwise.

Robert Sepehr has put out another video on the topic today as well:

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[Justjane]

There is far too much evidence to corroborate that Atlantis was far more than a myth. It was as real as anything. Many people living right now are Atlanteans reincarnated. The most important work and info about this topic has come from Edgar Cayce, Graham Hancock and the likes of that. Also this is what the Law of One (perhaps the purest channeled material ever) says about the subject:


Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of this work. The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities.

They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions. The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately five three oh oh oh, fifty-three thousand [53,000] of your years ago. It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere’s tectonic plates through no action of their own. They set out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you have come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities. Like the other incarnates of this cycle, they came from elsewhere. However, these particular entities were largely drawn from a second-density planet which had some difficulty, due to the age of its sun, in achieving third-density life conditions. This planet was from the galaxy Deneb.

The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately three one oh oh oh, thirty-one thousand [31,000] years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately one five oh oh oh, fifteen thousand [15,000] of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative.

Approximately eleven thousand [11,000] of your years ago, the first of the, what you call, wars, caused approximately forty percent of this population to leave the density by means of disintegration of the body. The second and most devastating of the conflicts occurred approximately one oh eight two one, ten thousand eight hundred twenty-one [10,821] years in the past according to your illusion. This created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of Atlantis was no more, having been inundated. Three of the positively oriented of the Atlantean groups left this geographical locus before that devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call Tibet, what you call Peru, and what you call Turkey.

I prefer the ancient mystics and advanced races were alien theories. I’ve found there is more objective, non-channeled evidence to support that theory.

[Wind]

I prefer the ancient mystics and advanced races were alien theories. I’ve found there is more objective, non-channeled evidence to support that theory.

Well, back then some aliens were indeed, shall we say, more involved with humanity. The Ra-group was one of those and they were the positive oriented ones who were in service to others group. There have been other alien groups too which are on the negative side and they are still more or less influencing humanity and controlling our so called leaders behind the scenes.

Those who once started humanity have always been part of the process and have wanted to make sure that we stay on the good side and won't destroy ourselves, but there's always that eternal tug of war between forces of light and dark. Humans are in the middle, totally clueless of their own origin and clueless about the nature of themselves too. Such beings are quite easy to control.

[Jayke]

Doing a little extra research on my post above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111490-Ancient-Egypt-Actually-a-part-of-the-Atlantean-civilization&p=1367598&viewfull=1#post1367598), where Herodotus mentioned the Atlantean people living by a mountain called Atlas in North West Africa.

That mountain is still called Atlas (https://www.lonelyplanet.com/morocco/high-atlas-mountains/activities/atlas-mountains-three-valleys-private-tour-from-marrakech/a/pa-act/v-36697P1/1331471) to this day. Check out the similarity in landscape design to the high mountains of Peru:

The first image is the Atlas mountain in Morocco, inhabited by Berbers. The second image shows the similar green stepped planes in Peru. Looks like the same culture, just migrated to different mountains after the original homeland sank.

https://lpviator.imgix.net/media/attractions-splice-spp-674x446/06/71/23/12.jpg?auto=compress&crop=center&fit=crop&format=auto&h=832&q=45&w=1920

https://www.planetware.com/photos-large/PER/peru-machu-picchu-1.jpg

[Ratszinger]

Atlantis simply means "CITY OF ATLAS" which tells you right there it was never a continent in the first place

No, it doesn't. It means Island of Atlas. Plato tells Us:

"...for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean...."

Don't buy into the lies! Atlantis was a continent, a fact settled thousands of years ago. Those who claim it was just a 'city' are the same who insist you look over here at Santorini for the answer, or the Sahara, Malta, Sardinia, Ireland, South America. Atlantis is and always was in the mid-Atlantic. As a continent.

Most by now must surely be aware of the meddlers and magicians and fake-history constructionists that oversee our paradigm of lies. They promote countless books and countless more television series on just RED HERRINGS. They perform every possible trick to keep people thinking conventional, mundane, and small, anything and everything to keep you off-scent and off-target. Atlantis is just one instance. They also concoct 'persuasive' evidence of Bigfoot being a myth, or just a bear, and Roswell being a weather balloon, or maybe a stray missile. And so on and so on. Wake up and smell the crap. We live in an era of deception, fraud, and suppressed truth. It's essential to their narrative that they keep the public oblivious to things like highly advanced antediluvian civilizations -- to the fact that the last 2,000 years is just a blip on the vast timeline of REAL human history.

I respectfully disagree with you. Atlantis was a city and it was on an island and the city took up the entirity of it, and they described the lay out of it for us surrounded by water and all so we have an idea of what it looked like with waterways around it. The continent was a whole string of other islands all separate but spanning nearly all the way around the globe north and south as I understand the story and to the point it may as well have been a continent but a continent of islands all apparently related to one and the other and the capitol city was Atlantis! That is why there are books about the "LOST CITY" of Atlantis. The islands including Atlantis all sunk and all that sits above the water of that string of islands now is the Canary Isles which were discussed at length not too long back in some really great videos we had here on several threads.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I agree with the general thrust of that, but it isn't and can't be disputed that Atlantis literally means Island of Atlas. It may well have been that the primary city of Atlantis was also called Atlantis, a bit like New York City and New York State. I've no problem with that, and I understand why the distinction may have become muddled over the years. But Atlantis as described in the ancient stories, and remembered in history, was always described first and foremost as an island continent.

[Andre]

http://skywatcher.equantum.net/images/atlantis-620-miles-west-of-africa-reduced.jpg
This image from Google Earth shows a near perfect rectangular area the size of Wales lying on the bed of the Atlantic Ocean nearly 3½ miles down. The site lies 500 miles due west of the Canary Island and about 1,000 miles south-west of Gibralter, in the direction described by Plato. It may, in fact, be what Plato described as the location given to Atlas's twin-brother, who was born after him, and who "obtained as his lot the extremity of the island toward the Pillars of Heracles [Gibralter]".

[EnergyGem]

I found a rather interesting article by a Falun Dafa practitioner where he goes into detail about the Atlantis Civilization. (This article didn't need to be Google translated as the pureinsight.org editors had already done the translation):

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What I Know of Earth's History and Mysteries (1): The Great and Glorious Civilization of Atlantis

Preface: As the Fa rectification progresses, so do I continuously upgrade my xinxing in Dafa cultivation, assimilating myself to the universe's principles of Truthfulness-Benevolence-Forbearance, and as such, my wisdom deepens and my capabilities strengthen. Dafa has revealed to me, at my realm of cultivation, the truths of different levels, including Earth's history and mysteries. I have written these down to share with fellow practitioners.

The continent of Atlantis once upon a time had a glorious civilization. This continent existed for ten million years, during which countless civilizations played out over the course of history. Today I will discuss the most glorious period of Atlantis' history, a time 10,000 years ago — the era of the great God Apollo. Why was this period referred to as the Apollo era?

Because this great dynasty was founded during the time when the God Apollo reincarnated on Earth to disseminate the Fa (just like how in this period of civilization Shakyamuni disseminated the Fa). Apollo brought about great political and military achievements, was brave and adept in combat, obeyed the will of heaven, and defeated all heretic tribes. He unified the nation and became the first Pope. Because he was the one who came to disseminate the Dao, the entire population at the time believed in the God Apollo.

When Apollo founded the dynasty, he brought together religious and political rule and replaced political power with religion. What followed was a glorious reign that continued for 20 generations of Kings. The Pope of each subsequent generation was known as the Son of Apollo and of Godly bloodline. Their science was completely different from todays. They devoted their efforts into researching science of the human body, paying particular attention to the oneness of heaven and humanity and propagating the orthodox divinely-imparted culture. I will now delve a little into the situation of the Apollo era.

Their ethnic group was the Anaye, (meaning, the ethnic group of a God's bloodline). The language used at the time was ancient Sanskrit. They had the appearance of white westerners. Their hair was flax-brown or light golden in color. Men were strong and handsome. Women were beautiful and dignified. (They seem to be like today's Ukrainians or white Russians). They mainly wore white or yellow robes. Their national flower was the walnut flower. Their city's architecture was much like the ancient style of western architecture.

They used an ash-gray-colored stone to build a magnificent palace. The palace walls were engraved with legends, stories, and heroes from the distant past. These engravings were remarkably exquisite and ingenious. Each area's landmark building was a square-shaped tower as tall as 100 meters (approx. 328 feet). The landmark building of the capital was as tall as 200 meters (approx. 656 feet), and cultivators would cultivate at the tower top. These towers were also used to observe the movements of constellations and hold grand religious ceremonies.

The Apollo era was the peak of the white people's divinely-imparted civilization. Emissaries from every continent were sent to Atlantis to learn advanced technology. Merchants would bring back to their countries the finest handiwork, fabrics, medical technology, medicine, plants, animals, and so on. There was an interesting phenomenon at the time in which the species of plants and animals brought back from Atlantis would survive for only one generation. This was because other countries lacked the divine strengthening (blessings), special soil, and environment that Atlantis had.

The military was exceptionally strong in the Apollo era. The army was mainly used to defeat rebel armies and heretics. When the army was in combat with an opposing side, they would first call upon an elder monk with outstanding Fa powers who would eliminate evil entities in other dimensions that were causing the conflict and then paralyze the enemy's thoughts. After that, various divine animals were summoned, including fire-breathing dragons, to eliminate the enemy's bodies in other dimensions.

The injury to the enemy's bodies in other dimensions resulted in their losing the ability to fight in this dimension. Finally, holy knights would command holy soldiers to wipe out the enemy forces. Combat was as such, including naval warfare. Apollo's army was invincible. They had warships that would sail around to whichever continent they pleased, and all would respect them.

The economies of each dynasty during the Apollo era had great influence over all other continents. Because the Atlantean civilization was divinely imparted, the industries of society, people's wisdom, and technology, including all species of plants and animals, were strengthened by the divine, resulting in everything being great and beautiful. Wheat grains and dates were big.

Each potato was around four to five kg (approx. 9-11 lbs). Horses at the time were twice the size of todays. Cows weighed 1,800 kg, (approx. two tons). Their items woven from silk were soft and exquisite and came in various patterns and gorgeous colors. Their handicrafts were of superior quality and most aesthetic. All items of clothing were family heirlooms.

For medicine, cultivators produced a dan that sold well across all continents. This dan was especially effective for many hard-to-treat cases. Atlantis had an exceptionally high moral standard overall. Owing to the influence of religion, people's relationships were very harmonious. Because the religion was practiced by the entire population, everyone treated each other as family. People would share their best things with others and keep less than the best for themselves. Everyone was this way. People were very selfless.

In the area of trade, besides regular business deals, trading one type of item for another was also favorable. The Apollo era dynasty had an enormous merchant ship that had its own holy navy escort. It engaged in trade around the whole globe. Many riches were gathered and brought back to benefit society and distribute among the populace.

For marriage, Atlanteans placed emphasis on pure blood and prohibited intermarriage with people of other nationalities. Those of lower social status were only granted permission to marry by an aristocrat. Atlantean women focused on strengthening their wisdom. They were good-looking and refined, and they had good moral values. These women were so ideal that they were the best candidates for any country's Imperial family to get married and become Empress.

In terms of raising the next generation, when a baby was born, a cultivator was called upon to examine the baby's pre-determined course of life (that was arranged by a God) and help make preparations for the newborn's life. This was to ensure that the child could be raised and educated according to his or her innate skills, thereby growing up to become a useful pillar in society.

With respect to education, Atlantis incorporated religious schools, which were divided into three grades. Regardless of one's gender, everyone completed the first seven years of elementary education and the subsequent five years of middle grade education. Those with exceptional innate skills were tested before undertaking advanced studies, including high-level religious studies. Higher level religious schools studied a range of classics that covered various subjects such as writing and language.

The higher the grade of study, the harder the material was to comprehend, and the closer it was to the language used in the white people's heavenly world. One must be a cultivator who had reached an advanced level in order to have his energy, abilities, and Fa power unlocked. Higher level religious schools studied ancient books that contained all sorts of high level secrets related to Fa abilities and ways of cultivation.

If an ordinary person gained access to these texts by force, their life force would be instantly depleted, their life would be in danger, and it would be difficult to live more than seven days. To be successful in one's studies, one must be a guardian of the truth and an emissary of the divine in the human world.

History is like a play. Both you and I are actors in this play. There is pleasant music in the play, and then there is the last note that ends it all. As such, the glorious dynasty of the Apollo era could not avoid decline when that part of the play played out. In the final phase of the dynasty, religious politicians altered and badly twisted the meanings of religious teachings for fame and fortune.

The corruption of religion led to the collapse of morality in the Atlantean society. In the end, all was destroyed by the divine. A huge flood and earthquake caused the continent of Atlantis to disappear. Their once resplendent civilization sank to the bottom of the ocean. We have gone through countless reincarnations. Looking back at past events as though they are right before our eyes, all those outstanding times … all pass by like smoke and clouds.

Original article:

http://www.pureinsight.org/node/7529

[Luke Holiday]

... Very interesting - Just curious .. was this information gathered via remote viewing, channeling, clairvoyance or...?


Thank you

Blessings Luke

[EnergyGem]

... Very interesting - Just curious .. was this information gathered via remote viewing, channeling, clairvoyance or...?


Thank you

Blessings Luke

I believe it was gathered by a supernatural ability which in Falun Dafa is called 'The Power of Knowing Fate'. The core book of Falun Dafa talks about this ability in depth:

https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/zfl_2018_2.html#3

The whole book can be downloaded here. It talks about other dimensions, the soul, the cosmos in the microcosm and the macrocosm, supernatural abilities, karma, healing, the true history of mankind, transcending the 5 elements and leaving the 3 realms and many many other fascinating things:

https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/pdf/Zhuan-Falun-2018-v1.9.pdf

[ZenBaller]

Although Atlantis sounds like a glorious civilisation to us, because of its technological advancements and psychic abilities, we should keep in mind that it was an integral part of humanity's downward spiral.

Atlanteans were unable to connect to their Heart, that's why ego flourished and led to total destruction.

At the moment we are much wiser and mature on a soul level than Atlanteans and on an upward direction, evolution. The next generations of humans will experience this much more directly than us. We still have to clean up all the traumas that we produced as Atlanteans.

Believe it or not, this is a much greater era that we're building.

[TomKat]

When the army was in combat with an opposing side, they would first call upon an elder monk with outstanding Fa powers who would eliminate evil entities in other dimensions that were causing the conflict and then paralyze the enemy's thoughts. After that, various divine animals were summoned, including fire-breathing dragons, to eliminate the enemy's bodies in other dimensions. The injury to the enemy's bodies in other dimensions resulted in their losing the ability to fight in this dimension.

Finally, a plan for defeating the illuminati.

[Wind]

Atlanteans were unable to connect to their Heart, that's why ego flourished and led to total destruction.

This is still our lesson and if we fail to overcome it then we will indeed face total destruction as a species and perhaps justly so. There's already plenty of karma left from the past, perhaps some is already solved, but there's still a lot of unresolved karma too which needs to purified through events and it will be. It is true that (some) human souls have grown quite a bit since then, but right now we are facing similar and also different issues at the present time.

At the moment people in general are spirtually very ignorant and in the dark, mostly because they have forgotten their origins. I'm not sure if it has something to do with underactive third eyes. A connection to the spirit has been lost which the Atlanteans had. I hope there will be a larger awakening, because otherwise I feel that only small portions of awakened humanity will get to see the light of a more enlightened era. Heart-based wisdom is the pathway towards salvation.

[ZenBaller]

Atlanteans were unable to connect to their Heart, that's why ego flourished and led to total destruction.

This is still our lesson and if we fail to overcome it then we will indeed face total destruction as a species and perhaps justly so. There's already plenty of karma left from the past, perhaps some is already solved, but there's still a lot of unresolved karma too which needs to purified through events and it will be. It is true that (some) human souls have grown quite a bit since then, but right now we are facing similar and also different issues at the present time.

At the moment people in general are spirtually very ignorant and in the dark, mostly because they have forgotten their origins. I'm not sure if it has something to do with underactive third eyes. A connection to the spirit has been lost which the Atlanteans had.

I am absolutely certain that there is no failure this time. Last time, failure was actually part of the "plan" so we could reach the lowest point of our Earth visit (starting much earlier as other races before Atlantis). We did reach it and now the climbing towards the next human level/"race" has begun. H.P. Blavatsky has very good esoteric information about the root races and the direction of evolution on the planet.


I hope there will be a larger awakening, because otherwise I feel that only small portions of awakened humanity will get to see the light of a more enlightened era. Heart-based wisdom is the pathway towards salvation.

I feel the same. Imho, only a small portion of humanity has currently the ability to go to the next level. From those of us who are still incarnated, I am guessing that in the next 2-3 decades, if we're still around, we'll get to see the first solid steps of the new era. Right now, we are about to experience the dismantling of the old world.

As for the larger awakening, I can't say. My mind says that it's not possible, but who knows. It doesn't really matter anyway. All souls have their journey. Some might wake up now, others will wake up in 200 life times. There's no delay in anything. Just being here on this planet, during this time, is a valuable soul experience for everyone whether they reach an awakening threshold or not.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I am almost certain that I have not been here before. And that I will not be back again.

I came for the show and the experience of a fool's life, a short life of no consequence.

It has been interesting, and fun even, but I will not come back to such a barbaric planet again. Once is enough for me.

I'll take the future over this any time. What a time to be alive, though! My friends in the future will never believe what I have seen and what I've been through. It will take me many lifetimes to convince them and many more to recover from the insult of life on planet Earth.

Bittersweet is a good descriptor. But I will not miss it one slight bit.

[TomKat]

I am almost certain that I have not been here before. And that I will not be back again.

That's what we all said :-)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I am almost certain that I have not been here before. And that I will not be back again.

That's what we all said :-)

43960

Said it after incarnation #1. And yet...

[Ernie Nemeth]

I am almost certain that I have not been here before. And that I will not be back again.

That's what we all said :-)

43960

Said it after incarnation #1. And yet...

All I got to say to that is:

Oh, ****!