Protestors arrested in Portland by unidentified military

[Justjane]

The silence is deafening.

“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out,
Because I was not a socialist.”

https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98/videos/2335454830097796/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/17/portland-protests-federal-officers-george-floyd

[spade]

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2010/sep/14/about-this-site

"This website is funded by support provided, in part, by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation." - That's all we have to say and know about news coming from this outlet.

[Justjane]

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2010/sep/14/about-this-site

"This website is funded by support provided, in part, by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation." - That's all we have to say and know about news coming from this outlet.

Here you go buddy, take your pick, search ‘protesters arrested in portland’ in a search engine of your choice. I tried to link to one for you but it wouldn’t work.

With all the Fox and friends BS posted here I thought you guys liked your news with a healthy dose of agenda....

[norman]

Were 1930s German arrest victims out in the streets burning the place down ?

[silvanelf]

Were 1930s German arrest victims out in the streets burning the place down ?

No, the German Nazis were much more clever. They burnt down the place itself, thereafter they accused the communists. Subsequently they began to detain all political dissidents, one group after another.

[spade]

Here you go buddy, take your pick, search ‘protesters arrested in portland’ in a search engine of your choice.

Yes, we know the news even before it broke, we have to find alternative means now as Cloudfare and Google working together to censor free speech. All search engines have been shut down to show results only from the mainstream media (Fox included but severely de-ranked).

And we laugh at what's happening, because these "protesters" launch explosives and set off fires, damage property - they're not protesters! Protesters don't destroy things. Unfortunately, when you protest peacefully against things that Baal Goates doesn't agree with, you get hunted down right to your doorstep like this poor Aussie days later.

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[mountain_jim]

Those Antifa fascists are not 'protesters', they are violent, nightly crime-committing anarchists.

I supported protesters trying to end the Vietnam War, but a goal of removing police US-wide is not a goal I support.

I follow these events via

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo

and I am not silent: if the local mayor, governor, etc. are ok with these crimes of arson and destruction and intimidation of all who are not equally militant, then how long are the feds supposed to just let anarchists' take control?

I did not pay US taxes for 50 years to support these Jokers tearing down our society to attempt to replace it with their own version of fascism.

There are alot of things about this country needing fixing (decriminalizing all victimless drug-using 'crimes' for one), but Soros-funded, China-assisted, US destruction to support a One World Order quickened along by the defeat of Trump will not find a supporter in myself.

And yes I realize folks with views like yours vs folks with views like mine suggests just the kind of polarization which these globalist-planners creating these events are hoping will lead to a civil-war in this country, and maybe the lightning-rod Trump is is either a willing or ignorant tool for these plans - all things seems possible in these dark times -

Yet I still have hope that this is the darkness before dawn - just don't see how antifa/anarchists rioting for 50 nights straight can lead to any needed improvements.

I note the thread Bill started which, imho, feeds into what's happening with the external agitation stirred up in the US that Portland events illustrate:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111213-The-planned-takedown-of-America-now--June-2020--in-full-swing.&p=1360967&viewfull=1#post1360967


The planned takedown of America: now (June 2020) in full swing

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1284834865121316865?s=20

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Constitutional Law expert Turley's view

https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1284575167671414784?s=20

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[Bill Ryan]

Here's a short video about the "peaceful socialist protestors".

https://twitter.com/i/status/1284728073531740161 (https://twitter.com/i/events/1284733959302049792)

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[Sarah Rainsong]

Take it to a PM. Seriously. This kind of picking and bickering is childish and tiring.

Project Avalon Forum Guidelines (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/faq.php?faq=avalonguidelines#faq_membershipguidelines)

2. RESPECT

Disagreeing with various points or topics is natural, and has always been a healthy component of all human activity throughout history. However, we do require that all members are treated with respect. In very many cases, what matters is not what you say... but how you say it.





https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2010/sep/14/about-this-site

"This website is funded by support provided, in part, by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation." - That's all we have to say and know about news coming from this outlet.

Here you go buddy, take your pick, search ‘protesters arrested in portland’ in a search engine of your choice. I tried to link to one for you but it wouldn’t work.

With all the Fox and friends BS posted here I thought you guys liked your news with a healthy dose of agenda....



Here you go buddy, take your pick, search ‘protesters arrested in portland’ in a search engine of your choice.

Yes, we know the news even before it broke, we have to find alternative means now as Cloudfare and Google working together to censor free speech. All search engines have been shut down to show results only from the mainstream media (Fox included but severely de-ranked).

And we laugh at what's happening, because these "protesters" launch explosives and set off fires, damage property - they're not protesters! Protesters don't destroy things. Unfortunately, when you protest peacefully against things that Baal Goates doesn't agree with, you get hunted down right to your doorstep like this poor Aussie days later.

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[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[atman]

The title of the thread is partly untruthful.

The so-called "unidentified military" were wearing badges of the CBP (U.S. Customs and Border Protection).

https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284206664913215491
https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284206664913215491

https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284256882467766272
https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284256882467766272

[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[Justjane]

Here you go buddy, take your pick, search ‘protesters arrested in portland’ in a search engine of your choice.

Yes, we know the news even before it broke, we have to find alternative means now as Cloudfare and Google working together to censor free speech. All search engines have been shut down to show results only from the mainstream media (Fox included but severely de-ranked).

And we laugh at what's happening, because these "protesters" launch explosives and set off fires, damage property - they're not protesters! Protesters don't destroy things. Unfortunately, when you protest peacefully against things that Baal Goates doesn't agree with, you get hunted down right to your doorstep like this poor Aussie days later.

dGJ4SLCvC2w

I don’t think getting a talking to by a clearly identified police officer is quite the same as being hauled off into an unmarked car by unidentified men in military uniform.

[Justjane]

The bias here is gobsmacking. If you watch the video, the man taken away isn’t doing anything. There is no sound, light or even a crowd to indicate that this person is involved in any criminal activity. Both the mayor and governor have stated they did not ask for or want military intervention.

I do not understand how any of you could imagine this is okay. Your ‘news’ sources are as biased as any other if it is condoning the actions taken in the video above.

Spade seems to be literally saying that someone getting a talking to from the police is the same as getting dragged away in an unmarked car by unidentified military by people who refuse to say who they are, why they are arresting him, where they are taking him. They don’t even ask the persons name or tell him what crime he is committing.

If you stand by what is happening here, you are very clearly on the wrong side of this.

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The title of the thread is partly untruthful.

The so-called "unidentified military" were wearing badges of the CBP (U.S. Customs and Border Protection).

https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284206664913215491
https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284206664913215491

https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284256882467766272
https://twitter.com/CBPMarkMorgan/status/1284256882467766272

Did you actually watch the video? The men have no badges or other identifying features on their uniforms. They do not identify themselves. They do not say why they are taking the person away. They don’t say where they are taking the person. They don’t say actually a thing.

[Constance]

Did you actually watch the video?

Yep.
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[Justjane]

Did you actually watch the video?

Yep.
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We know they’re police, the video literally says ‘Trump’s secret police’, I didn’t realise we needed to be so literal here, my apologies....

[Constance]

Did you actually watch the video?

Yep.
43922

We know they’re police, the video literally says ‘Trump’s secret police’, I didn’t realise we needed to be so literal here, my apologies....

http://www.thewholespectrom.com/blog/2017/6/25/why-ask-the-12-intentions-behind-asking-questions?rq=intentions%20behind%20asking%20questions

[Constance]

Did you actually watch the video? The men have no badges or other identifying features on their uniforms. They do not identify themselves. They do not say why they are taking the person away. They don’t say where they are taking the person. They don’t say actually a thing.

I should have shared the full quote...my apologies:flower:

[Justjane]

Did you actually watch the video? The men have no badges or other identifying features on their uniforms. They do not identify themselves. They do not say why they are taking the person away. They don’t say where they are taking the person. They don’t say actually a thing.

I should have shared the full quote...my apologies:flower:

No sorry Constance, I meant I should have added ‘beyond police’ on my original statement.

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Did you actually watch the video? The men have no badges or other identifying features on their uniforms. They do not identify themselves. They do not say why they are taking the person away. They don’t say where they are taking the person. They don’t say actually a thing.

I should have shared the full quote...my apologies:flower:

Kind of feel like we’re nitpicking the wrong things here though.

[Constance]

Kind of feel like we’re nitpicking the wrong things here though.

You may have seen my thread then.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111509-It-is-time-we-consciously-create-a-new-paradigm-together

[Justjane]

Kind of feel like we’re nitpicking the wrong things here though.

You may have seen my thread then.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111509-It-is-time-we-consciously-create-a-new-paradigm-together

Constance, you know this is what I’ve been about since I first started speaking in this space. We need to rise above it all and see the agendas and biases of BOTH sides. This situation has moved beyond BLM and is fast becoming a movement for anyone who feels disenfranchised and rightly so. Do I condone or advocate violence riots and violence? No. Do I understand why people resort to riots and violence? Absolutely. The thing is, unless you are actually in Portland, I don’t think any of us know what is exactly going on because ALL forms of media have their own agendas, but from the videos being shared on social media, unarmed people are being kidnapped by people who refuse to identify themselves, who refuse to state why you’re being taken or where you’re being taken to. The men in this video did not even speak.

Everything everyone in this forum is afraid of happening is happening except none of you care because it’s not happening to you or to your people.

But but but Antica. But but but Soros. But but but socialists. But but but BLM. But but but whatever.

None of this matters anymore. US citizens are being kidnapped and transported to who knows where.

Get over your cognitive dissonance and start looking at this objectively.

When lockdown first happened, armed men stormed a state capitol building. As far as I am aware, those men weren’t even arrested. They definitely weren’t taken away by military police and taken to who knows where.

It’s time to put politics aside. Your being shown what happens if you dissent, given that most of you are dissenters of one kind or another I thought you find this more worrisome.

[Constance]

We need to rise above it all and see the agendas and biases of BOTH sides.


Get over your cognitive dissonance and start looking at this objectively.

As someone I know says, Information without inspiration, is just that, information.

and as John Naisbit once wrote, We are drowning in information but starved for knowledge.

We can either learn through suffering or inspiration.

When we are full of inspiration, we are able to take those inspirations to instill the overall answer. What powers inspiration is gratitude (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111432-Constance-s-empowerment-portal&p=1365551&viewfull=1#post1365551).


Everything everyone in this forum is afraid of happening is happening except none of you care because it’s not happening to you or to your people.


Your being shown what happens if you dissent, given that most of you are dissenters of one kind or another I thought you find this more worrisome.

Byron Katie (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111432-Constance-s-empowerment-portal&p=1365241&viewfull=1#post1365241) says that we suffer when we believe thoughts that may not be true. She asks these questions:

Is it true?

Can I absolutely know it's true?

How do I react when I think that thought?

Who would I be without that thought?

:heart: :sun:

[spade]

If you stand by what is happening here, you are very clearly on the wrong side of this.


Sounds like an Obama quote “wrong side of history”....

None of us are really standing on any side, we don’t support tyrannical govt, neither do we support rioters.

The mainstream media goes all out psycho yelling about injustices of whisking away fire setting, explosives throwing rioters, while the peaceful protestors protesting about the “wrong” things (in the mainstream narrative), get rounded up quietly from their homes, without a peep from the mainstream news.

[Justjane]

If you stand by what is happening here, you are very clearly on the wrong side of this.


Sounds like an Obama quote “wrong side of history”....

None of us are really standing on any side, we don’t support tyrannical govt, neither do we support rioters.

The mainstream media goes all out psycho yelling about injustices of whisking away fire setting, explosives throwing rioters, while the peaceful protestors protesting about the “wrong” things (in the mainstream narrative), get rounded up quietly from their homes, without a peep from the mainstream news.

The video you shared was from Australia, where I live, no one was rounded up from their homes. A police officer came to the house to ask their name in order to issue a citation. The person refused to give their name and the officers left.

The mainstream media have reported on the riots non stop. No idea where you’re getting your news from but the media has been far more focussed on the violent nature of the protestors than the many many incidences of peaceful protests. Why? Because it sells. Drama sells. The majority of the media is focussed on making money through sensationalising issues and ensuring you are firmly indoctrinated in the status quo, capitalism good, individualism good, division good, blah blah blah. Even the most left wing outlets only pay lip service to left wing social and economic issues. The Project, a supposedly left wing commentary show here in Australia are against collectivism, unionism and treat every issue as a bipartisan one. Why? Because they’re funded by the elite. Left wing media is an illusion.

Being against the military occupation of a country and standing against the forcible arrest by unidentified military police does not mean supporting rioters or even protestors.

Can’t believe I’m having to say any of this here.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I live in Portland. Argue the fine points all you want. Every night bands of violent criminals roam the streets long after any peaceful protest has been complete. They have smashed windows, defaced buildings,looted stores, set fires, attacked citizens and police and then tried to cry victim if anyone retaliates or tries to protect property.They are thugs and cowards of the most violent sort. Portland has always had a subset of tough violent street “kids” even before the riots happened. These people are absolutely dangerous, and are actually the real Naizs. Try to disagree with them and see what happens.

[Justjane]

We need to rise above it all and see the agendas and biases of BOTH sides.


Get over your cognitive dissonance and start looking at this objectively.

As someone I know says, Information without inspiration, is just that, information.

and as John Naisbit once wrote, We are drowning in information but starved for knowledge.

We can either learn through suffering or inspiration.

When we are full of inspiration, we are able to take those inspirations to instill the overall answer. What powers inspiration is gratitude (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111432-Constance-s-empowerment-portal&p=1365551&viewfull=1#post1365551).


Everything everyone in this forum is afraid of happening is happening except none of you care because it’s not happening to you or to your people.


Your being shown what happens if you dissent, given that most of you are dissenters of one kind or another I thought you find this more worrisome.

Byron Katie (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111432-Constance-s-empowerment-portal&p=1365241&viewfull=1#post1365241) says that we suffer when we believe thoughts that may not be true. She asks these questions:

Is it true?

Can I absolutely know it's true?

How do I react when I think that thought?

Who would I be without that thought?

:heart: :sun:

I don’t understand your point? Who is suffering? I don’t see how this relates to people being dragged away by military police when there are legal processes in place for people who commit crime in the US.

[Constance]

We need to rise above it all and see the agendas and biases of BOTH sides.


Get over your cognitive dissonance and start looking at this objectively.

As someone I know says, Information without inspiration, is just that, information.

and as John Naisbit once wrote, We are drowning in information but starved for knowledge.

We can either learn through suffering or inspiration.

When we are full of inspiration, we are able to take those inspirations to instill the overall answer. What powers inspiration is gratitude (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111432-Constance-s-empowerment-portal&p=1365551&viewfull=1#post1365551).


Everything everyone in this forum is afraid of happening is happening except none of you care because it’s not happening to you or to your people.


Your being shown what happens if you dissent, given that most of you are dissenters of one kind or another I thought you find this more worrisome.

Byron Katie (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111432-Constance-s-empowerment-portal&p=1365241&viewfull=1#post1365241) says that we suffer when we believe thoughts that may not be true. She asks these questions:

Is it true?

Can I absolutely know it's true?

How do I react when I think that thought?

Who would I be without that thought?

:heart: :sun:

I don’t understand your point? Who is suffering? I don’t see how this relates to people being dragged away by military police when there are legal processes in place for people who commit crime in the US.

I'll try another way then...starting at 48.20 - all the way through to 54.58. That's the point I want to make about inspiration and suffering. :heart:

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[spade]

Peaceful indeed yeap

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1284285197857497088/pu/vid/1280x720/MUAWoUKov6Sjclg6.mp4

[Justjane]

We need to rise above it all and see the agendas and biases of BOTH sides.


Get over your cognitive dissonance and start looking at this objectively.

As someone I know says, Information without inspiration, is just that, information.

and as John Naisbit once wrote, We are drowning in information but starved for knowledge.

We can either learn through suffering or inspiration.

When we are full of inspiration, we are able to take those inspirations to instill the overall answer. What powers inspiration is gratitude (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111432-Constance-s-empowerment-portal&p=1365551&viewfull=1#post1365551).


Everything everyone in this forum is afraid of happening is happening except none of you care because it’s not happening to you or to your people.


Your being shown what happens if you dissent, given that most of you are dissenters of one kind or another I thought you find this more worrisome.

Byron Katie (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111432-Constance-s-empowerment-portal&p=1365241&viewfull=1#post1365241) says that we suffer when we believe thoughts that may not be true. She asks these questions:

Is it true?

Can I absolutely know it's true?

How do I react when I think that thought?

Who would I be without that thought?

:heart: :sun:

I don’t understand your point? Who is suffering? I don’t see how this relates to people being dragged away by military police when there are legal processes in place for people who commit crime in the US.

I'll try another way then...starting at 48.20 - all the way through to 54.58. That's the point I want to make about inspiration and suffering. :heart:

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Nope, I must be dense because I don’t understand the connection.

[Constance]

Nope, I must be dense because I don’t understand the connection.
nevermind then :flower:

[Jayke]

Peaceful indeed yeap

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1284285197857497088/pu/vid/1280x720/MUAWoUKov6Sjclg6.mp4

The relentless bombardment of hurling projectiles and shattering glass really fills me with a sense of serenity. :ROFL:

Tom Luongo touched on the arrests of the “Marxist Revolutionaries” by the police in his latest ‘Market Report’. He sees it as a savvy political move by Trump, let the anarcho-communists hang themselves with their own rope as they prove to the world how destructive their agenda is, then round up the leaders of the ‘violent rioters’ causing the leaderless mob to eventually fizzle out. He also says how Trump is making plans to shut down US presence in Afghanistan, so expect more deep state sanctioned mobs to spring up causing chaos around the US as the election cycle draws closer.

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It looks like we're seeing a turn in Donald Trump's strategy to beat back the forces arrayed against him. Trump, as a gut with nothing left to lose, used his excellent sense of the news cycle this week to begin deploying federal troops to war-torn Portland, OR. This has put Pelosi et.al. in the position of calling him a Nazi for doing waht the city and state governments refuse to do. This will play well in Trump states, shoring up his base, while also letting the swing states know that there is a limit to how far this anti-police/anti-white people/anti-America virus will spread.

But, he did this after allowing enough time to pass to prove to anyone watching that this was beyond time to get involved.

At the same time, Trump is setting up for a full pullout from Afghanistan which is again setting him at odds with a hated Congress, on both sides of the aisle, proving to normies the country over, the dysfunction in Washington isn't him, it's them.

Smart politics this week from Trump. Meanwhile the EU dithers like it always does just before it does something incredibly tyrannical and stupid.
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[Bill Ryan]

I live in Portland. Argue the fine points all you want. Every night bands of violent criminals roam the streets long after any peaceful protest has been complete. They have smashed windows, defaced buildings,looted stores, set fires, attacked citizens and police and then tried to cry victim if anyone retaliates or tries to protect property.They are thugs and cowards of the most violent sort. Portland has always had a subset of tough violent street “kids” even before the riots happened. These people are absolutely dangerous, and are actually the real Naizs. Try to disagree with them and see what happens.

:bump:

Justjane, this is someone who lives there. You may not understand what's happening in the US, 7,000 miles from where you are. You appear to be driven by ideology far more than real-world facts.

[mountain_jim]

Another night, another riot of violence and attempted arson.

Innocent, non-violent 'protestors' trying to burn down the Federal Courthouse with law enforcement humans inside.


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285131613731532800?s=20

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https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285135955897331714?s=20

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https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285136918972370945?s=20

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[Justjane]

I live in Portland. Argue the fine points all you want. Every night bands of violent criminals roam the streets long after any peaceful protest has been complete. They have smashed windows, defaced buildings,looted stores, set fires, attacked citizens and police and then tried to cry victim if anyone retaliates or tries to protect property.They are thugs and cowards of the most violent sort. Portland has always had a subset of tough violent street “kids” even before the riots happened. These people are absolutely dangerous, and are actually the real Naizs. Try to disagree with them and see what happens.

:bump:

Justjane, this is someone who lives there. You may not understand what's happening in the US, 7,000 miles from where you are. You appear to be driven by ideology far more than real-world facts.

Cool story bro, I have friends in Portland too, plus, there’s this thing called the internet.

No ideology from me here my friends, the US is being transformed into a police state and militarised. The only ideology being espoused is from RWNJs who predicted this would happen and now don’t care because it’s not happening to them.

This forum is a joke.

I’m out.

[mountain_jim]

RWNJs

I had to use that thing called the internet to see what this meant.

Right-wing nut jobs

You don't have to be that to be (or not be) aware that the US is and has been in the process of being transformed and militarily-industrial-complex violated - from 1947 National Security Act, JFK removal, MKULTRA nazi-influenced mind-control testing and implementation, beefing up local forces with all kiind of equipment, etc.

In my view terrorizing and injuring/killing innocent citizens and burning down the federal law institutions is not going to gain the support to fix these issues - creating citizen awareness of what has been hidden from them and waking them up has the best chance to succeed in the long run.

Hope you find the community you seek.

[norman]

The hardest blind spot to identify is our own. I found Jane's blind spot fascinating and I enjoyed reading most of her posts because of that. It was teaching me a bit more about how to identify my own.


"RWNJ" could have cracked me up laughing, but instead, I feel a mix of sad and disappointment.


:focus:

[Heartsong]

To get a further local perspective, visit https://www.oregonlive.com/ The Portland Daily newspaper.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The hardest blind spot to identify is our own. I found Jane's blind spot fascinating and I enjoyed reading most of her posts because of that. It was teaching me a bit more about how to identify my own.

I felt exactly the same about these blindspot(s), really very fascinating, and good follow-up point. I would've been unable to articulate it as well as you just did, norman, and with such brevity.

[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[spade]

I feel she was looking for some emotional support for the rioters... it's difficult to give that when you see them doing things like this.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1285433013170577409

[Forest Denizen]

Just a little Reality Check, there are many folks who are and have been peacefully protesting in Portland. They have not been rioting. The rioting has been undertaken by a very active and damaging minority.

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[Savannah]

For long time it seemed the alt left was driven by money, power and intimidation by those with the real agenda behind them. The majority as I saw it were asleep to the realty of the world situation. A we all know the TPTB took on a more overt action strategy when Trump and the Constitutionalists managed to get a step up in power. So I expected Politian’s to act like Nazis and, media, corporations and Hollywood to support them etc. What has taken me a little aback is the level of infiltration into the younger generations and how their good intentions (equality, the environment) are being completely used to promote an agenda they don’t even see or understand.

I don’t stand on soap box with this position and in full disclosure say I did the same to lesser degree in my twenties. Thus I should now realize how far the infiltration has been. I attended a large NY state University in the early 80’s and experienced the communist infiltration into education, but at the time had no clue what was going on. I had professor who spent most of lectures showing slides of his trip to Cuba and exposing the virtues of Castro and his treatment of the mentally ill in work camps. Naturally naive at that age I believed everything he said and sang the praises of communism to my friends. Those not in college looked at me like I was nuts. As we all know the propaganda war for our psychic energy is everywhere and encompasses many ideologies. However in the 80’s communism was still pretty much seen as a failure by most because the generation before me saw what happened to Russia and many other domino countries. So they didn’t get too many converts from my generation.

I think most on PA see all political systems as controlling and restrictive but some are better options than others until we move into the age when we don’t need governance at all. Until that dawns (it may be soon) God save us if live under the rule of China and people the likes of us are put into reeducation camps and killed while alive for our organs. The Technocracy AKA Communism 2.0, has been planned for a long time because they know this is a spiritual war and that with the change into the ascending Dwapar Yuga the majority will be waking up soon. The old means of control won’t work. They need to get in control the whole worlds frequency before that happens to suppress us fast. That’s why Killeries loss to trump was so devastating and they have called out the troops. “God forgive them for they know not what they do”.

[Wansen]

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2010/sep/14/about-this-site

"This website is funded by support provided, in part, by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation." - That's all we have to say and know about news coming from this outlet.

Here you go buddy, take your pick, search ‘protesters arrested in portland’ in a search engine of your choice. I tried to link to one for you but it wouldn’t work.

With all the Fox and friends BS posted here I thought you guys liked your news with a healthy dose of agenda....

Brava Jane!

[spade]

Just a little Reality Check, there are many folks who are and have been peacefully protesting in Portland. They have not been rioting. The rioting has been undertaken by a very active and damaging minority.


Thanks for sharing Ken, I'm failing very hard to understand what they are protesting about, when the very thing that they protest against will simply cause more "police brutality" - in a sense pouring more gasoline onto the situation. It's like a never-ending burn, that continues to be stoked by the Soros-backed instigators as low hanging fruit. Watch it die out after the elections and die especially hard if Trump is forced to lose by TPTB.

If anything made sense, I would fully support them if they protested against the true enemy - BiII Geightz, Soros, Rothschilds, Wolfgangs, Vanderbilts, Rockefellers, The Windsors, European Royalty and all the other complicit child eating, torturous, blood sucking monsters that control the narrative to hide this horror from the entire world.

[atman]

Just a little Reality Check, there are many folks who are and have been peacefully protesting in Portland. They have not been rioting. The rioting has been undertaken by a very active and damaging minority.

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As a counterpoint to that Reality Check, the following could also be presented as a little Reality Check:

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1285587505056800769
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1285587505056800769

[Forest Denizen]

Jack Posobiec.. consider the source..

[Jayke]

Jack Posobiec.. consider the source..

Not a great argument when the two sources you chose for your post were Robert Evans, who works for Bellingcat. Bellingcat is the propoganda website that put out the ridiculously contrived Skripal case revelation (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45665380) in the UK a couple years ago.

Joshua Potash works for TransformHarm.org (https://transformharm.org/abolition/), a Marxist revolutionary website, which no doubt has some dubious NGO funding behind it if we dig a little deeper. He’s like a comrade caricature, deserving of a place in the SJW satire comic: ‘Get Triggered’.


“...Move over ‘Antifa Freddy’, ‘Police Abolitionist Potash’ is leading the charge in Portland.”

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Not that I’m a fan of Posobiec either. But the sourcing on both sides needs to be better to make a stronger case either way.

[atman]

Jack Posobiec.. consider the source..

His Twitter profile states in part: "Intel analyst, counter-extremism research, Mandarin, veteran, Roman Catholic".

He works for One America News Network.

He has written and published two books:

Citizens for Trump: The Inside Story of the People's Movement to Take Back America
4D Warfare: A Doctrine for a New Generation of Politics


What is it, specifically, that makes him an unreliable source?

That said, he his not the only one to have indicated that something else than "peaceful protesting" might be at play in what you have presented as a "Reality Check". For example:


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285549368125186051
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285549368125186051

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285601432276803585
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285601432276803585

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1285560887336595456
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1285560887336595456

[Forest Denizen]

Exactly. Where is this all getting us.

[atman]

We are all contributing thoughts and information in an attempt to make sense of a multi-faceted societal issue, our perception and understanding of which can be muddied by propaganda, by partial facts and by our own personal biases.

Our individual contributions to the discussion can hopefully help us to get closer to the truth.

[Jake]

Here is the DHS briefing regarding the federal agents in Portland. At about 1430 they break down the different law enforcement uniforms and unique identifiers law enforcement are required to wear. There are no secret Trump Stormtroopers. They address it again at about the 2200 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbx8vZDBBeY
At 2953, they address what happened with the individual who was put in the van. He was committing felonies on federal property. Those lazers that they are pointing into the eyes of the officers cause damage. Assault on a federal officer has consequences... They simply followed him and detained him for questioning. He was questioned, and LET GO.

Why isn't common sense very common?

I've known some of these ANARCHISTS. They don't give a single Shiite about George Floyd or BLM. They think it's soooo cool that nobody is stopping them from breaking the law. They are all about lawlessness.

These criminals are not asking for a police state,,, they are daring it...

I think the mayor should be arrested for inviting violence and causing riots.

Fwiw... Jake

[JDarktide]

Peaceful protesters lol.