The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

[Zirconian]

Are we in a matrix?
If so, what is it?
If we are in a matrix, do we get out? If we want to get out, how do we do it?

I'm sure we are in a matrix, a multidimensional hack, preventing Gaia and humans from experiencing and downloading incredible creative informational fields to create and find new potentials and solutions.

I do want to get out, though I see it as a matter of dissolving the matrix, an outshining from grounding in high vibrations for ourselves and Gaia.

We can start grounding in those high vibes by being kind to one another, the practice of detachment and mindfulness. Gratitude being a big one to increase those vibrations.

But what do you feel?

[Craig]

I feel if we escape all we actually do is move to the next level in a never ending layer effect. Vaguely reminds me of a movie that had a young Australian star and Morpheus and all i can remember is the young lad was a cripple but ends up with strange legs in an artificial reality out in space?

If time is only a 3D construct i am now afraid what we have now will last forever as we struggle to break free, then again i am swept up in the sea of negativity currently enveloping the planet so what do i know?

[Ernie Nemeth]

We can only get out together because that is how we got into this mess in the first place - together.

[Zirconian]

Thank you Graig & Ernie Nemeth for your posts.
I do feel there are many dimensional layers to this matrix. It's tiring to think about that.
I also feel, we can as individuals with a group intent, change this matrix.
The matrix needs a ton of negativity as a glue to hold it in place and a huge level of manipulation to keep it together. What if we could outshine that? What if that is possible?
If it is a hack, can we move our consciousness above the hack?
These are troubling times but I do, despite all appearances to the contrary feel a shift within the matrix to the positive. There have always been hidden manipulations to keep us distracted, particularly at the moment, but the positivity is here. Can people feel it?
If you can feel it, how do we tap into it and use it to our advantage?
Or do we just carry on, making the best of it all, as best we can?

[Ernie Nemeth]

The day the draft was instigated in Canada for the invasion of Nazi held Europe, groups of friends joined up together and were promised they would fight alongside one another. Many, many young men signed up that first week. That is how I remember the story, anyway.

That is how a tide of sentiment rushes over a peoples - all of a sudden. That is a grass roots upswell.

That is what is going to happen this time too.

No worries.
:hippie:

[thepainterdoug]

I have heard it said and thought it thru many times that all is as it should be. Its a hard thing in a sense to understand. Most of us are fixers, fixers of the world around us. yet this seems impossible. we have soul plans and life paths. we agreed to them prior to our incarnation here. there is much evidence to this, perhaps even more than that we are in a matrix.

if we are in a matrix , it is what it is and perhaps we are supposed to be in it. should it even be possible to discover, and break free of it, then what? what would we be in then? sort of like fish in a tank, and one fish discovers they are in water, and so decide to escape it. then what? nothing is permanent here, so it will all pass anyway. so my intuition tells me, to live my life out mind full off all these thoughts as I move along.

[onawah]

Jon Rappoport has written a lot about the Matrix and how to escape it.
https://nomorefakenews.com/
Here are just a few of his recent articles:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/07/19/exit-from-your-matrix-power-in-decaying-world/
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/07/25/matrix-revealed-cartels-running-world/
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/07/26/when-the-individual-creates-exit-from-the-matrix/

[Trisher]

Are we in a matrix?
If so, what is it?
If we are in a matrix, do we get out? If we want to get out, how do we do it?

I'm sure we are in a matrix, a multidimensional hack, preventing Gaia and humans from experiencing and downloading incredible creative informational fields to create and find new potentials and solutions.

I do want to get out, though I see it as a matter of dissolving the matrix, an outshining from grounding in high vibrations for ourselves and Gaia.

We can start grounding in those high vibes by being kind to one another, the practice of detachment and mindfulness. Gratitude being a big one to increase those vibrations.

But what do you feel?

My experience is that we don't really really know we are in a matrix until we wake up out of it. The Matrix film comes to mind where people are plugged into the Matrix literally through the back of the neck and once the plug is removed they are jolted fully awake.
For me the Matrix is a place where life is lived on the surface from the interface of me as the personality, the character, my beliefs, my memories and my emotions, my mind, Me central. Dislodging that interface into a "not me" central is key to waking up out of it. An open flowing heart energy helps as does no mind. If thinking is stilled then something else then becomes present. An intelligence far beyond thinking emerges and flows powerfully through the body. This energy opens up all that is "not matrix" and allows a new (yet ancient) interaction with life depending upon how receptive and open we are. This openness can come in stages and is forever growing and expanding. This is essentially already in everyone. It is and always has been a choice of the "Me central" or the dissolving of it.

Trisher

[Libico]

Why do you want to escape this reality though? If you have clear, indisputable proof that this is a prison reality then I could understand the want to try and escape, though how would you know there isn't a higher purpose for you being in this prison reality that our current 3D consciousness can't understand? I don't feel like that is the case though - life has plenty of hardships and seeing the exploitation and brutality around the world is draining, nobody can argue that. I remember when I first starting seeing past the BS it had a profoundly objectively negative emotional effect on me - it wasn't a fun period for me. I did come out of that experience wiser and stronger, so as difficult as that period was I'm glad I went through it. If I were to look at the micro (only that period) it was awful, but looking at the bigger picture "suffering" through helped me grow.

Ultimately I think that's what this reality is - we're in school (kindergarten even) to help us grow. If we focus on the micro (one lifetime here on Earth) you may want to escape, but in the macro (our Soul development) we are meant to go through pleasant and unpleasant experiences. I do think it is important not be passive/apathetic and "go with the flow" striving to explore, learn, and grow spiritually has a huge positive effect on us and helps us touch base with our higher selves and recharge our batteries.

[greybeard]

We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
The way out is inward.
Wear the world like a loose garment.
Be still and know That I Am.
What else do you need to know?
All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

Chris

[Trisher]

I do think it is important not be passive/apathetic and "go with the flow" striving to explore, learn, and grow spiritually has a huge positive effect on us and helps us touch base with our higher selves and recharge our batteries.

Accepting this reality for what it is without fighting against it can be an important tool. Finding the right tools within to transmute what we see as dark energies is vital. I have recently come across a few young children with abilities to transmute and empower any situation with heart energy..full on bliss feel that makes the room melt into peace and unconditional love. They do not need to be taught how..this is innate in them. We all have this but in varying degrees have closed ourselves off. Its incredible to watch a difficult tense situation melt into a meeting of solutions and new ideas. On the other extreme I have neighbours fighting over noise levels and all the arguments and shouting and warring has done nothing whatsoever to find a solution. What we hold within can change the world. Either way.

Trisher

[Feritciva]

We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.


Totally disagreed.



The way out is inward.


Totally agreed! :)

[Trisher]

We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
The way out is inward.
Wear the world like a loose garment.
Be still and know That I Am.
What else do you need to know?
All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

Chris

It may be an illusion Chris but it is an Illusion that has to be taken seriously. We wake up and we sleep in it and we have our daily interactions in it. Saying it is all an illusion can trip people into not bothering because it is an illusion. Dealing with it means grounding thoroughly into the physical and also grounding in the Source energy and from there putting all that into daily actions of kindness, heart felt actions etc. The children I have come across deal with a situation by energetically changing things. They have incredible grounding and the unconditional love energy of Source. They bring it through and into this reality. That is knowing it is all an illusion of energetic perspective only as well as bringing through something that changes it all into a deep truth in the way it is dealt with. That for me is the way forward. This energy is available to all. The old saying of washing dishes, scrubbing floors, enlightenment, washing dishes , scrubbing floors holds true. Any amount of awakening still leaves us here in the "illusion"..but in a totally new way of dealing with challenges and all that life throws at us.
Trisher

[greybeard]

We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
The way out is inward.
Wear the world like a loose garment.
Be still and know That I Am.
What else do you need to know?
All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

Chris

It may be an illusion Chris but it is an Illusion that has to be taken seriously. We wake up and we sleep in it and we have our daily interactions in it. Saying it is all an illusion can trip people into not bothering because it is an illusion. Dealing with it means grounding thoroughly into the physical and also grounding in the Source energy and from there putting all that into daily actions of kindness, heart felt actions etc. The children I have come across deal with a situation by energetically changing things. They have incredible grounding and the unconditional love energy of Source. They bring it through and into this reality. That is knowing it is all an illusion of energetic perspective only as well as bringing through something that changes it all into a deep truth in the way it is dealt with. That for me is the way forward. This energy is available to all. The old saying of washing dishes, scrubbing floors, enlightenment, washing dishes , scrubbing floors holds true. Any amount of awakening still leaves us here in the "illusion"..but in a totally new way of dealing with challenges and all that life throws at us.
Trisher

Yes but when you get out of mind stuff right action happens spontaneously.
An illusion is not unreal it just means its not what it appears to be.
Thats the trouble with me giving a short answer with out the context of in depth spirituality.

Chris

[Harmony]

I recall reading several scources over the years alluding to we are in a altered hierarchical system. Some kind of hijacking the previous system and compressing it's natural sequences of growth into the fourth dimension. Recycling our souls with an altered agenda.

Unfortunately, I cannot remember where I read some of them as it would have been over ten years ago:(.

The WingMakers 5th Interview did indeed put forward similar concepts. Although I did not like the whole way the Wingmakers came into existance and put their message out, there was some very thought provoking information.



The conscious mind of the individual is heavily influenced by the genetic mind, especially between birth and the age of seven or eight. By that time the influence is all-encompassing.

Remember that the Anunnaki created the biological form ”the body", the Sirians created the functional implants, and Marduk executed the programming of these functional implants so they would evolve along a programmed path, leading to the return of Anu. This was expressed in the hierarchal structure of humanity that speaks of god and masters in religious and esoteric texts.

This was all part of the design, to create various religions and esoteric cults that would
support a vast Hierarchy and order the human species into masterstudent relationships, and then create a multi-leveled afterlife that would reward those who believed and were obedient to their god or masters.

You see, the whole principle that was behind this entire endeavor could be summed up in one word: separation. Everything exists in separation within the earth plane and its afterlife planes as well. But, according to the WingMakers, what is real is that we are all imbued with equality and oneness, not through the unconscious mind, which only links us in separation, but rather through the life essence that is us. And this life essence is sovereign and integral.


The sober reality is that after you die, the being inside you is met by a guardian who will take you to your destination, based mostly on your deeds in this life. However, most beings are taken to a life review where you face your life in every detail, and based on that experience an authoritative figure will prescribe your next life options for reincarnation. You are essentially recycled into the same program with a new mother and family, and a programmed life path is laid out for you to follow.

The afterlife program and process is all part of the master program to retain the enslavement of the beings. Remember, "interdimensional beings” meaning we exist in 3-D and the higher planes. It's just that these higher planes are designed by the Anunnaki. They are not of the real dimensional planes. Otherwise,we would die discover who we really are, and we would never reincarnate or if we did, we would tell everyone on earth that this is all an illusion.�
Maybe that hijacked reality is a matrix designed by beings that want it this way, wheather that is all part of a test for us to figure it out I don't know:sun:

[Trisher]

We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
The way out is inward.
Wear the world like a loose garment.
Be still and know That I Am.
What else do you need to know?
All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

Chris

It may be an illusion Chris but it is an Illusion that has to be taken seriously. We wake up and we sleep in it and we have our daily interactions in it. Saying it is all an illusion can trip people into not bothering because it is an illusion. Dealing with it means grounding thoroughly into the physical and also grounding in the Source energy and from there putting all that into daily actions of kindness, heart felt actions etc. The children I have come across deal with a situation by energetically changing things. They have incredible grounding and the unconditional love energy of Source. They bring it through and into this reality. That is knowing it is all an illusion of energetic perspective only as well as bringing through something that changes it all into a deep truth in the way it is dealt with. That for me is the way forward. This energy is available to all. The old saying of washing dishes, scrubbing floors, enlightenment, washing dishes , scrubbing floors holds true. Any amount of awakening still leaves us here in the "illusion"..but in a totally new way of dealing with challenges and all that life throws at us.
Trisher

Yes but when you get out of mind stuff right action happens spontaneously.
An illusion is not unreal it just means its not what it appears to be.
Thats the trouble with me giving a short answer with out the context of in depth spirituality.

Chris

Yes Chris I agree that no mind ( and a fully open heart) can make for spontaneous good action. Anyone in that state would know it is a serious illusion, a game to be played. Those that have not come into that state and are curious may need a pointer or two. Those that have found no mind may also require a pointer or two. We are not given a handout on the rules of the game at any stage unfortunately and there are no cheat moves or shortcuts to be found anywhere. It is simplicity itself but appears complicated if the mind is engaged in the search. Once in that state then that is only the beginning. I marvel at what these new children will bring through having started life with full use and knowing of how to deal with things in such a powerful and yet simple energetic way. They are clearly high vibrational and using innate and spontaneous methods to raise all around them to a resounding Wow. They are a gift and a way forward.
Apart from the ones I have met there is one I found on the internet. Christina Von Dreien. She is on Youtube. Mostly in German but also some things in English. She has written a book on how to's and her mother has written two books in which she speaks of Christina's amazing life. These are available in German, English and French. An amazing young teen living the new energetic way and showing others how to push boundaries. If there is or if there is not a matrix this is still the way forward and beyond whatever our perception of life and reality is...should we make the freewill choice to venture that bit further.
Trisher

[O Donna]

The Matrix is in likeness to the finger pointing.

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[Zirconian]

Taken awhile to read all the replies. Interesting perspectives and questions.:flower:

To truly know something then you have had to have an experience and it would need to be profound. Then you could say you come from a place of knowing rather than a a place of beliefs.

I strongly suspect humanity is experiencing, on this dimension of awareness, a reality that is suppressing, distracting and manipulating, to prevent humanity from achieving their full potentials and creating a world that creates, experiences & shares through the heart (or mind in the heart) rather than just the mind (which is easily manipulated). I call this suppressed and manipulated state, the matrix (from the film, as surprisingly, for me. it holds truths).

Why do I strongly suspect? Well I've (humbly) had experiences to arrive to the aforementioned conclusions.

So do I describe, my experiences? To describe personal experiences on a site such as this, I feel, needs to come from the right motivation and intent. I share to aid whoever wishes to read the post,clarity on my perspective and why I have it.

About 10 years ago a very passionate group (and I honour that group), who had been dedicated to clearing their programs (ego) got together to experience source (or you could say an enlightened state) to walk with it every day, here on earth and.....well, source just responded.

Over about 2 years, the group received what can only be described as downloads of consciousness that seemed to synchnonistically reveal truths about reality. Experiences were; kundalini rising, the human energy field changing, in that the energetic layers of the human energy field started to disappear (which was easy to check if you are used to feeling them), eventually, it felt that you were a black hole, nature felt like bliss, (in fact most things felt like bliss), creativity was at a high and there was a sense of adventure.....what would the next day bring?

However, in EMF's around WIFI, masts etc, this state became compromised/flattened. The answer to the question why this was so and the solution that resulted to the EMF question ensured that we became persons of interest. It was being persons of interest that we became aware, that in our reality, certain groups (not all human) do not want humanity to raise their vibe, create, feel bliss, solve, experience life as an adventure. They want us following their command in energetic suppression.

I still am a person of interest but I've managed to deal with it and even grow despite it.

I now understand the manipulation. It's energetic, through EMF's and our subconscious (via various means) for our enslavement.
With more growth, I can feel there is a positive, revealing itself, a grace. I feel strong energy in Gaia to support humanity.
I feel we can ride the crest of this Gaia wave by going within and raising our vibe, opening our hearts. This manipulation/matrix will probably dissolve if enough people did this, revealing a new creative world for humanity.

This is my truth and it's one I like. Lots of heart, solutions & potentials despite attempts to suppress them.:heart:

[ExomatrixTV]

Now you know why I created the name "ExoMatrixTV" long time ago in 2007 on YouTube that channel was banned in 2009 ... Backup channel "EX0MATRIXTV" (O = zero) was banned in 2011 with 27,000+ subscribers & 1000+ videos ... then another back up name "EX0MATRlXTV" (where the I = low caps L) that was banned in 2019 with 37,000+ subs! (1200+ videos gone in a memory black-hole).

At least I tried ;)

cheers,
John

exo (like exodus)
exo (like exoplanets)
exo = leaving or "outside" the matrix!

[chancy]

The day the draft was instigated in Canada for the invasion of Nazi held Europe, groups of friends joined up together and were promised they would fight alongside one another. Many, many young men signed up that first week. That is how I remember the story, anyway.

That is how a tide of sentiment rushes over a peoples - all of a sudden. That is a grass roots upswell.

That is what is going to happen this time too.

No worries.
:hippie:

Hello Everyone:
There is more to this story Ernie mentioned about groups of friends signing up to go to war.
My father was so gun ho to go with all his friends they just couldn't contain themselves.
It turned out my father was rejected because he was hard of hearing. All his friends got accepted.
He was literally heart broken!

None of his friends came back to Canada because they all died in the war. He was the only one left in the group to pass on to his postarity the great wisdom of life and how important each and everyones life is. It doesn't matter who you are because you all have purpose and you are meant to be where you are in the matrix or whatever you want to call it. He just called it life!
Dad lived to 91 and he never met anyone that wasn't a friend after meeting them in person or by mail.
Sometimes knowing is worse that not knowing! Can you imagine knowing all your friends are going to die? I can tell you that is was best not knowing for Dad. When he found out life just wasn't the same anymore....
He did live life to the fullest but it just wasn't the same without all his friends...
chancy

[The Moss Trooper]

We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
The way out is inward.
Wear the world like a loose garment.
Be still and know That I Am.
What else do you need to know?
All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

Chris

It may be an illusion Chris but it is an Illusion that has to be taken seriously. We wake up and we sleep in it and we have our daily interactions in it. Saying it is all an illusion can trip people into not bothering because it is an illusion. Dealing with it means grounding thoroughly into the physical and also grounding in the Source energy and from there putting all that into daily actions of kindness, heart felt actions etc. The children I have come across deal with a situation by energetically changing things. They have incredible grounding and the unconditional love energy of Source. They bring it through and into this reality. That is knowing it is all an illusion of energetic perspective only as well as bringing through something that changes it all into a deep truth in the way it is dealt with. That for me is the way forward. This energy is available to all. The old saying of washing dishes, scrubbing floors, enlightenment, washing dishes , scrubbing floors holds true. Any amount of awakening still leaves us here in the "illusion"..but in a totally new way of dealing with challenges and all that life throws at us.
Trisher

Yes but when you get out of mind stuff right action happens spontaneously.
An illusion is not unreal it just means its not what it appears to be.
Thats the trouble with me giving a short answer with out the context of in depth spirituality.

Chris


There is no control, only the illusion of control.

Yet it is this illusion that controls us all.

[Harmony]

Over about 2 years, the group received what can only be described as downloads of consciousness that seemed to synchnonistically reveal truths about reality. Experiences were; kundalini rising, the human energy field changing, in that the energetic layers of the human energy field started to disappear (which was easy to check if you are used to feeling them), eventually, it felt that you were a black hole, nature felt like bliss, (in fact most things felt like bliss), creativity was at a high and there was a sense of adventure.....what would the next day bring?

However, in EMF's around WIFI, masts etc, this state became compromised/flattened. The answer to the question why this was so and the solution that resulted to the EMF question ensured that we became persons of interest. It was being persons of interest that we became aware, that in our reality, certain groups (not all human) do not want humanity to raise their vibe, create, feel bliss, solve, experience life as an adventure. They want us following their command in energetic suppression.

I still am a person of interest but I've managed to deal with it and even grow despite it.

I now understand the manipulation. It's energetic, through EMF's and our subconscious (via various means) for our enslavement.
With more growth, I can feel there is a positive, revealing itself, a grace. I feel strong energy in Gaia to support humanity.
I feel we can ride the crest of this Gaia wave by going within and raising our vibe, opening our hearts. This manipulation/matrix will probably dissolve if enough people did this, revealing a new creative world for humanity.

This is my truth and it's one I like. Lots of heart, solutions & potentials despite attempts to suppress them.:heart:

Dear Zirconian,

I really would like to hear more about your experiences, downloaded wisdom, and solutions, etc. that you feel comfortable sharing.:flower:

[ExomatrixTV]

Maybe it sounds a bit cheesy of me saying:

You already left the matrix the moment you have NO MORE FEAR if you know (not beLIEve) we are so much more than our 5 senses can detect! ... And that we all are mentally, physically, emotionally & spiritually tested no matter what background what beLIEve system (mass conditioning) you came from.

Every day you have a choice: FEAR or LOVE (=trust)

If you are trapped in a web of chronic distrust towards yourself and/or others be aware that you can change circumstances anytime if you change your "poor me mentality" (often creates much more poor me reality)... Changing the "victim mode" in to allowing yourself to surprise yourself ... When a part of you does not feel recognized feels alone "not seen" because you never had the courage to share that to anyone. Know this: ... That part SCREAMS for recognition in so many ways that it will sabotage any (possible) positive progress just to get confirmation bias ... It will use all its creative potential to "prove" it is "right" .. But by doing so it does NOT use its full potential to prove it is blocking who you suppose to be and go beyond self-pity.

Anyone that uses his or her creative intelligence to be a brilliant pessimist is NOT that smart at all ... being a brilliant optimist making SOME mistakes and learn from it and MOVE ON ... that is a real sign of (constructive) intelligence.

As most have a CHOICE ... Why do you want to sabotage your own true (positive) potential? ... Because you may have lived a life that almost never allow itself to be seen ... and now it seeks different paths to bring that deep rooted pain to the surface.

Break your own cycle of despair & destructive habits and you (may) find an exit of your matrix withholding your true potential (whatever that be).

cheers,
John Kuhles - July 29, 2020

[Zirconian]

Thanks for taking the time to post with your perceptions.

Chancy, I felt your story. My Great Grandad went to the Somme in the first world war. I can understand a band of brothers.
Exomatrix TV. I have followed your efforts to raise awareness of the dangers of 5G.

I understand the sentiment, making the most of life here now and walking the middle path, the non-dualistic appraoch. I feel both can be a practical, effective approach to living now whether you feel we are in an illusion or a matrix.

Harmony, I'm happy to share, though posting is a balancing act. I do not wish to make this thread about myself. I would like to hear other peoples insights and perceptions. However, a little of what I've experienced may help others to understand where I'm coming from or it may not. I'll see what flows, as I type.

Put simply, my experiences and that of others have shown that the human potential is mighty and though some of it can be expressed in life on earth, most of the time it's supressed ( via manipulation) and that is either known or unknown.

We can carry on in this state of knowing or not knowing and life is life and that is fine or we can grow into our full potential which dissloves the illusion or matrix suppresion and from this space we can create with joy, bliss, harmony, gain new insights to further create for the benefit of all things, be in communion with all.

It's not so much an escape, I'm describing but a dissolving of that which suprresses (matrix) or covers truth. This process happens from within.

Why do feel this is important? Why do I raise the questions about the matrix?
Well, it's good to share information that there is a pathway to a joyous state (I'm not stating I'm in it always but the downloads do create such a fire in the heart, that when challenges arise which can alter mood, they can be managed, solutions appear synchronistically. Your in a flow.

This is good to have as a skill, as I see challenges ahead for humanity with further supression, you could say it's in the timelines.

However, timelines can change when people focus from a space within the heart, the void. This has happened and some people do this. There is a pathway to this space and it requires clearing the heart centre and downloading more pure consciouness.
The pathway is easier without EMF's.

Anyone can do this, it requires effort and you can change the outer without anything other needed. The outer responds well from this space.
There is no control or suppression in this space.

Everyone has their own truth to follow. My truth changed with these experiences. A lot of what I had previously read or practiced, I let go of, though gems from some masters (Sri Nisargadatta & Sadguru, I like) remain. :heart:

[palehorse]

Are we in a matrix?
If so, what is it?
If we are in a matrix, do we get out? If we want to get out, how do we do it?

I'm sure we are in a matrix, a multidimensional hack, preventing Gaia and humans from experiencing and downloading incredible creative informational fields to create and find new potentials and solutions.

I do want to get out, though I see it as a matter of dissolving the matrix, an outshining from grounding in high vibrations for ourselves and Gaia.

We can start grounding in those high vibes by being kind to one another, the practice of detachment and mindfulness. Gratitude being a big one to increase those vibrations.

But what do you feel?

I like to play with the idea of it, specially with the idea of inception, either way is seems to be layers on top of layers of reality, like an onion, if you are in the kernel and expand to the next layers would make any difference? probably thing would look the same just a little broader.
Answering you question, how do we do it? We don't, it will happen if you are the chosen one (sorry, I couldn't resist I am joking), in general terms if we live in a matrix, most probably we do, then I do believe there is no escape from reality, getting out to next outer layer would be a state of mind since we can't drag our bodies beyond the physical matrix, unless death have something to do with that, but I am skeptical about it.

[Trisher]

Maybe the word "Matrix" means different things to different people. The word triggers ideas and theories and all kinds of different escape hatches as well as no escape hatches. The problem with words is that they do not really go far enough to explain what this is really all about.
If we have a radio we can change the band and frequency to pick up different "programs". Everything on this planet has a frequency. A word spoken to a glass of water or placed on a label stuck to the glass of water will change its frequency or vibration. See Masuro Emoto water crystals. Sand can form patterns depending upon the sound emitted. All around us we have evidence of what frequencies are. We are emitters of frequency. Every thought emits the frequency of what we think, every word that we say and write and our actions also emit frequencies through our intent.

If we take the Matrix as a low band of frequency on the planet, say hate, anger, jealousy, negativity, stress, fear, anxiety, worry, depression etc then we begin to see that we would be better placed to be in a higher frequency. That of love, joy, happiness, laughter, bliss, peace, calmness, heartfelt actions etc. A child is born naturally with the higher frequency band and connection to all that is and once labeling and thinking come into their consciousness then it can be gradually covered over with "stuff" and disappear under a burden of cares, emotions and thinking.

This is where freewill comes in. Some people have no desire to uncover their true state and some do. It is in the realising and the deep knowing of the full potential we have of generating high frequency energy, then the sudden realisation that what we are actually putting out there is low vibrational, that can trigger us to want to clear away all that covers it. We can, with just a word or thought, trigger vibrational changes in the water of our bodies and those around us. Just by thinking a negative thought we do the same. We can make ourselves ill or we can heal ourselves.

For those that want to raise their frequencies I have found a very effective and thorough list in the Christina Von Dreien Book Three. This cannot be done from the mind..more an open heart state. A quiet meditative calm state helps.

This cleansing should to be done whilst connected to Source/higher self..all that is..whatever name you have for it and however you connect to it

A simple way is to visualize a light going up through the body and out from the top of your head and then reaching a large golden ball. This ball is visualised as being Source. There is really no defined method. Whatever you feel is right for you then go with it. Once connected to source you can start to clear all the things that are no longer in your highest divine good. You can ask for example that all contracts that are no longer in your highest divine good are dissolved. However you must also ask that all saved and backup copies with all energetic imprints and side effects get removed as these, if left, can reinstall whatever it is you are trying to dissolve. You may or may not feel things have been dissolved as far as they can. Trust that it is so. However, some things may not be dissolved if you are still in need of them for learning.

Through clearing something from the energy field you leaves holes..gaps ..spaces..these should be filled with unconditional love. You need to ask specifically for what you want and request that Source do this. You are asking for Source to do all this work..you are not using your energy to dissolve things. Once you have cleared all you want to in a session then flood yourself with thankfulness.

In connection to this it is important to note that the body cells store not only experiences from our soul but also above and beyond that the collective experiences of our ancestors. This includes the experiences, ideas and patterns of our mother and father as well as their forebears. Thus we inherit from our ancestors an immense amount of cell memory which may not be in our highest divine good. These inherited things can be dissolved in the same way as those above. Asking for eg entanglements, patterns, restrictions, blockages, illnesses and suffering etc to be cleared .

This is a starter list of things that most will have some of. It is recommended that it be done on a daily basis as we have layers of things to clear.

Treaties, agreements, alliances, packages, contracts
Oaths, promises, vows
Shocks, traumas
Thought patterns such as beliefs, ideas, worldviews.
Destructive emotional patterns such as fear patterns, guilt patterns, anger patterns, hate patterns. Dislikes, things created through Imagination
Attachments
Karmic burdens
Generational burdens
Initiations, sacraments
Curse, curses, damnations, bans
Energetic blockades, blockings, downgrades, seals and armour.
Mental programs, manipulation, brainwashing, disinformation, coding.
Entities, attachments, parasitic entities, overshadowing by entities. possesion
Foreign energies from people, that through thinking, emotions and words are actively connected to us (e.g. by thinking about us or talking about us)
Projections from other people (i.e. from our ideas that we have and express to others)
Astral constructs (energies programmed with certain commands)
Astral nails, screws, chains, shackles
Holograms. Energy twists, energy reversals, energy vampires
Physical or energetic implants (microchips, transmitters, receivers, switches, timers, nanobots, chemtrail toxins etc)
Vaccines and foetal consciousness within the vaccine because of the way it is made
Animal consciousness from eating meat.

I have found that this clearing process if done properly absolutely raises frequencies and I share it here as a tool if you feel it is right for you.

Trisher

[greybeard]

You put a lot of thought in to your post above Trisher.
Many will get encouragement from it and more.
Chris

[Zirconian]

Hi Palehorse: I'm with you in that we are in the physical and "getting out" ( dissolving) of low frequency bands of suppression (matrix) be it from our own negative thinking, EMF's or interdimensional manipulation will have to be from our own point of consciousness right here on earth, in the physical.

This is achieved by raising human body/mind emotion vibration, through clear thinking (from meditation/mindfulness) a clear heart (from gratitude, mindfulness compassion & forgiveness) and a passion to link to source (or whatever name you choose).

In this process of raising vibration, fields of consciousness from other dimensions (layers of your onion) can download into your being. This appears to be an outer phenomenon, however it is a reflection of an inner state (unpeeling of the onion) to reveal the kernel, your true state, truth, love & joy.

The outer symbolically reflects the inner.

In this true state, we experience the world, well just the way it is and deal with it ....well just the way we have to. However, glimpses of truths have been revealed and there is no going back.

If the outer reflects the inner of each human, can you imagine what the world could be in this high vibrational state. What we could create.

We are only limited by our vibration and imagination.

[Zirconian]

Trisher, Greybeard has neatly expressed what I feel about your reply.:flower:
It is a great post.

I have tried the exercises that you have written from Christina Von Dreien's book and they are very effective.

I'm going to order the book!

Seems like another soul who is raising vibrations to create change.

The purpose of this thread was to discuss whether we are in a matrix.

My thoughts (from some experiences) are that we are living in a low energy field (matrix) that suppresses the potentials for much creativity, truth, joy, though we experience glimmers of it and I'm thankful we do.

Whether the matrix (low frequency suppression of our vibrations and energy fields)is created by our own thinking or enhanced from low frequency radiation from our increasing use of technology or from those in control of our media/politics/corporations or the interdimensional beings who hold the keys(control) to the dimensions (well a quite few of them), it is our reality at the moment whether we know it or not.

However, nature is beautiful and thank goodness for many artists who reach within and delight and lift us with their creations. They are the break in the clouds.

We all can reach within and create and commune with nature in joy and bliss, lifting the vibrations of ourselves and clearing some of the lower, suppressing frequencies, from our thoughts and from that which manifests as manipulation and control amongst other things.

It is a choice. However, it seems what could happen, now in our reality, is human choice maybe erased if we keep on with the status quo. There are plans afoot to supress humanity further and to keep us locked in low frequencies where joy will be a distant memory, at the very least.

I say this not in fear but as a call for whoever is interested to delve within and raise the human vibration, seek source and unveil it within. We can all do this. It doesn't have to be the chosen ones (for you Palehorse!).

No control can withstand the power of source within. Source outshines it and dissolves it and we can reach source. We are source.

High vibrational being can reveal much potentials and solutions to our current conditions on earth.

We are only limited by our acceptance of low vibrations.

I choose a higher vibration.

[palehorse]

I say this not in fear but as a call for whoever is interested to delve within and raise the human vibration, seek source and unveil it within. We can all do this. It doesn't have to be the chosen ones (for you Palehorse!).

No control can withstand the power of source within. Source outshines it and dissolves it and we can reach source. We are source.

High vibrational being can reveal much potentials and solutions to our current conditions on earth.

We are only limited by our acceptance of low vibrations.

I choose a higher vibration.

Hello Zirconian, thanks to bring this subject to light over again, I had engaged in this sort of discussion before and most of the time it just vanish into thin air, it is a pity because their much "potencial" and things to learn from it. You are correct about your thoughts regards vibrations.
Years ago I was reading Brian Greene (Strings theory) as a complement from the Einstein essays on relativity and quantum studies, but theoretical physics is not the same thing as mindfulness practice, for now you may think I am twisted and got it all wrong, but as a practitioner of Dhamma and mindfulness I can tell you there will be zero result without practice and I mean that and sure you know that as well.

Meditation plays a huge role on awakening all this vibrational states, as I believe life in low frequencies and high frequencies as well is marked by three signals: anattā (non-self, there is no attā or soul), dukkha (suffering) and anicca (impermanence). This 3 signals are the composition of life itself at it very core of existence as well at it very outer rings of the onion, the difference is we struggle when we forget about our very essence of life, we evolve when we walk together with our essence.

The corrupted world we live today disrupted this human wealth and put humans in a very low frequency susceptible for all sorts of corrupted things.

I blame the system or matrix for that and their leaders, but we understand those precious points in life, we have to move forward and leave it all behind (we can't save the world for what it is), when we finally leave our physical body behind (ascend), we gonna be all consciousness anyway, not necessarily a soul, spirit or whatever they call it nowadays.


Zirconian: Regards your previous post:

"This is achieved by raising human body/mind emotion vibration, through clear thinking (from meditation/mindfulness) a clear heart (from gratitude, mindfulness compassion & forgiveness) and a passion to link to source (or whatever name you choose)."

Remarks: What I am saying here is no proof whatsoever, it is my personal experience and also personal experience of others that I am in contact.
More you practice mindfulness more aware about "what is what" in life you will be, passion and compassion will rise "automagically" with time of meditation, I started Vipassana practice in 2007 in Thailand and it hugely changed my way of life and perception of the world, I am not saying you or anyone should do that, I believe any sort of meditation are very beneficial, for example I experimented Japanese Zazen for more than a year (sitting meditation) it was at least interesting because it gives the practitioner a lot more insight into your own nature of existence, all the attached string tear apart, it is impossible to describe it in words.
What I mean is Heart and Mind are one thing, there is no separation on it, they are related and interconnected, a one working body, without mindfulness there will be no compassion, forgiveness or gratitude.

"In this process of raising vibration, fields of consciousness from other dimensions (layers of your onion) can download into your being. This appears to be an outer phenomenon, however it is a reflection of an inner state (unpeeling of the onion) to reveal the kernel, your true state, truth, love & joy. ..."

My guess is yes, sometimes we get answers from nowhere, freshly downloaded into our brain, we are connected with higher layers of existence as well with our essence, I have no doubt about it, Gurdjieff stated that very well with his "system of Hydrogen" Gurdjieff used the term Hydrogen to describe the substances occurring on various level or layers or vibrating at different levels of intensity, which is nothing more than the possibilities of human evolution. He described this things even before the most renowned physicists start scratch the surface of it. It was one of the last studies Hawking was working on before he passed away.
The entire things seems to be a fractal structure, a recursive self-similarity thing with its own rules and laws at each layer of presentation and complexity. I would call it a real matrix we are living on, I have no idea if anyone will ever be able to crack this code, it is a way beyond my understand.

[Trisher]

I say this not in fear but as a call for whoever is interested to delve within and raise the human vibration, seek source and unveil it within. We can all do this. It doesn't have to be the chosen ones (for you Palehorse!).

No control can withstand the power of source within. Source outshines it and dissolves it and we can reach source. We are source.

High vibrational being can reveal much potentials and solutions to our current conditions on earth.

We are only limited by our acceptance of low vibrations.

I choose a higher vibration.

Hello Zirconian, thanks to bring this subject to light over again, I had engaged in this sort of discussion before and most of the time it just vanish into thin air, it is a pity because their much "potencial" and things to learn from it.

Palehorse I too have noticed that the posts for this type of discussion do not last and generally fade out very quickly and am happy to see this continuing. I too thank Zirconian for bringing this to our attention again in an effort to raise our awareness of the huge potentials open to us if we fully embrace this incredible solution.

We have fully and deeply buried who and what we actually are and this wake up call back to ourselves is really calling urgently to all to really look at the inner life and raise the vibration of what we say do and think.

We no longer have the luxury of continuing the few thousand years amble through this "totally lost" experience. Many on this forum are expressing alarm at what is happening in the world. Not quite so many are finding the uncomfortable truth within and looking seriously and honestly at themselves, but they do know deep down that the world feels out of balance and very uncomfortable and they are looking for solutions.

Each and every single one of us is responsible for what we put out there. It will not get changed by shuffling it around. Only through clearly and truthfully watching what we ourselves generate will we see the changes "out there". A huge thank you to all those already doing this. :heart::flower:

Trisher

[EFO]

We have to penetrate it by ourselves or with others help or simply break it.Some are successful :)

Simulation | AWARD-WINNING Sci-Fi Short Film
(23:32 min.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6-N1v1REu8&t=1027s

[Mashika]

I have always had a problem with "frequencies" and "high/low/raise" vibrations

I can't explain it all right now, but i probably will do tomorrow, for now i'm just going to say this

As i said before in other thread, i wish whoever reused those words had better not, because it has mislead people into thinks and thinking that actually stops the human soul spiritual growth, but that's too long to explain here so i'm just going to post a simple example before going away.

Let's take the color "white" which most people identify with pureness or wisdom, and then let's take the color black, which most people identify with darkness and evil

One could say, if you only look at color white, or at the light, then you won't be able to learn anything new, because at light, all it's in front of you, while at dark, there are mysteries to uncover. Black or white, or red, or any other color, in the end if you are blind, you're still a human with a soul but you don't know how they look like, people started talking about "light and love" based on their understanding of the world, not of the soul, it just translated to the soul after other people picked it up. But it's just the same, "i can see" "I'm awake", "I have seen the light" and so on. Too bad for the blind i guess, but not really because blind people do have ways to see, for real

How can you learn something new if everything has already been shown to you? So you need to go look into the dark spot that you have never wandered into before (which caused science and traveling and going to the moon and mars and even the internet and the web later on, and cell phones and satellites and pretty much everything these days) and not go wandering in circles while on the light, because it's all your safe zone where everything is already known, no worries no fear no new stuff, you can understand it all and there's no danger. So let's repeat the mantras for 10,000 years instead of daring to look for something new. Then you have a religion, not a search for truth

Following that mindset, if you allow, please read the following:

Frequencies and vibrations are not 100% related, frequencies are not high or low, frequencies are fast or slow, it goes sideways, not up and down. While it has been associated with vibration and the higher the vibration frequency goes it is assumed it's "more pure" or "high" it is not really true

An evil person still vibrates and can raise their "frequency" in ways that makes him more "evil", raising or lowering "frequencies" has nothing to do with ascension, in fact, but i'll get to that later

A nice person is only nice from the point of view of other person who understands in a certain way, what "nice" means. So frequencies, as a musical instrument vibrating or a machine doing noises at certain intervals (what frequency really means) has nothing to do with spirituality, it has to do with what the receiving person feels or understands about the vibrations, it's a perception thing

A machine running and making a small noise every 5 seconds it's still vibrating and following a frequency (at which times it makes that small noise) and it has nothing to do with spirituality, a plane is vibrating and following a frequency you can clearly hear, and still not spirituality because a plane is not a living being with a soul

I'm not sure if i even want to say all the things i could say, please don't take this as insult or ways to try to go against you, is just not that at all. I find it hard to explain without people thinking i'm trying to take them down, or insult them, but that's not really true at all

I need to think but if you would like to allow me explain more please let me know, i'm just going to not do that on my own because i don't want to force myself into you guys, and because i can see how most of what i can say will not be cool with most people who have spent lots of times following specific trends or roads in life. And i don't promise anything but truth as far as i can see it, and nothing more (my truth is mine and yours is yours, i'm just showing my point of view)

I can say this however, and people who know about this aspect of nature will know this is true

A "demon" has a faster frequency (higher in the new age vocabulary) than most humans, why? He's not human, "raising" (speeding up your frequency so you match other dimension or phase of existence) only means you are trying to reach another level where you can speed up enough to "see/match" what previously was going way too fast for your human eyes (perception). Demons are angels still, just not the "white" ones, so that's why they can influence and affect human life, you need to understand that aspect of life and nature before moving forward, see? And that's part of why most people immediately reject these words.

So, if you reach the same speed as "them", you can look at them in their real form, not just some random blur as before, because you have reached the same "frequency" or "speed" they exist in

If you raise your frequency, the way most people think it works, the first thing you will find are demons :) Demons who looks beautiful and pure, because they are (angels) in levels, there are several "pureness" levels

[Harmony]

Thank you everyone for your thougntful replies. Going within and finding new realisation, experiencing what different frequencies "feel like" and embodying them in our lives is a challenge sometimes. I also like to imagine, like the demonstration of sand on surfaces with diferent frequencies and how the sudden harmonic resonances change the patterns exponentially in an instant. Knowing that could happen is truelly inspiring.💕

[greybeard]

Power vs Force and the map of consciousness by the late Dr David Hawkins and education.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19795.Power_vs_Force

https://www.coreresonance.com/map-of-consciousness/

Dr. Hawkins, MD PhD* spent the last three decades of his life in Arizona, working to correlate the seemingly disparate domains of science and spirituality. In 1983, he established the Institute for Spiritual Research, a nonprofit organization dedicated to consciousness research. In 1995, at the age of 68, he received a Ph.D. in Health and Human Services. That same year saw the publication of his book, Power vs. Force, translated into 25 languages, with over a million copies sold and evoking praise from such notables as Mother Teresa and Sam Walton.

The book presents his trademarked “Map of Consciousness,” now used by health professionals, university professors, government officials, and business executives worldwide. One of his fundamental concepts was that…

“we change the world not by what we say or do but as a consequence of what we have become.” (*)

The Map of Consciousness identifies the fact that the more conscious we become, the more we contribute to the harmony and unfolding of the planet. The Map of Consciousness suggests that advancing human consciousness is the most expeditious means by which humans become responsible members of the planet and step into roles that extend our capacities as human beings.

Advancing consciousness is the only means by which we can rectify the damage human beings have wrought in their adolescence as a species. In fact, advancing individual and collective consciousness is the only mechanism worthy of our truest attention.

For example, one person at 700 on the Map of Consciousness (admittedly a very high number), counterbalances the negativity of 70 million people below 200. One person at 600 (a potentially readily attainable value through CORE Resonance Training™) counteracts the negativity of 10 million below 200, one person at 500 counteracts the negativity of 750,000 below 200, and so on.

The Map identifies our priorities as a species, i.e., how we go forward, how we become in-sync with the overall whole, and how we take our rightful place as a conscious and sentient species. CORE Resonance Colonies™ is the ideal incubation environment for such rapid advancement and deployment.
— excerpted from The Twelve Premises of CORE Resonance Colonies: for an enlightened world by J.Hamilton.

*About Dr. David Hawkins:
He was a renowned as a physician, author, lecturer, researcher of consciousness and trained as a psychiatrist, had the largest practice in New York. Dr. Hawkins was the Medical Director of the North Nassau Mental Health Center (1956-1980) and Director of Research at Brunswick Hospital (1968-1979) on Long Island and served as a psychiatric advisor to Catholic, Protestant, and Buddhist monasteries. In 1973, he co-authored Ortho-molecular Psychiatry with Nobel Laureate chemist Linus Pauling, initiating a new field within psychiatry.
–https://veritaspub.com/dr-hawkins/

Namasté
J.Hamilton

[Mashika]

Thank you Sr, i just one to point one thing out, but before that i want to apologize if i sound conflictive or just constantly denier, is not that really, i'm just searching for the truth and i was made in a way that i deconstruct things in such a way that i find things i need to ask to figure out how "it works"

Said that, i just would want to know about those numbers, because
"one person at 700 on the Map of Consciousness (admittedly a very high number), counterbalances the negativity of 70 million people below 200"

How it was really measured?

Did a fast reading on the site you linked and found it very interesting, going to find his books on kindle in a bit (hoping those were published as ebooks), i just wanted to know if you have figured that one aspect out because it would be very interesting to know before reading the books

-

Masha


Power vs Force and the map of consciousness by the late Dr David Hawkins and education.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19795.Power_vs_Force

https://www.coreresonance.com/map-of-consciousness/

Dr. Hawkins, MD PhD* spent the last three decades of his life in Arizona, working to correlate the seemingly disparate domains of science and spirituality. In 1983, he established the Institute for Spiritual Research, a nonprofit organization dedicated to consciousness research. In 1995, at the age of 68, he received a Ph.D. in Health and Human Services. That same year saw the publication of his book, Power vs. Force, translated into 25 languages, with over a million copies sold and evoking praise from such notables as Mother Teresa and Sam Walton.

The book presents his trademarked “Map of Consciousness,” now used by health professionals, university professors, government officials, and business executives worldwide. One of his fundamental concepts was that…

“we change the world not by what we say or do but as a consequence of what we have become.” (*)

The Map of Consciousness identifies the fact that the more conscious we become, the more we contribute to the harmony and unfolding of the planet. The Map of Consciousness suggests that advancing human consciousness is the most expeditious means by which humans become responsible members of the planet and step into roles that extend our capacities as human beings.

Advancing consciousness is the only means by which we can rectify the damage human beings have wrought in their adolescence as a species. In fact, advancing individual and collective consciousness is the only mechanism worthy of our truest attention.

For example, one person at 700 on the Map of Consciousness (admittedly a very high number), counterbalances the negativity of 70 million people below 200. One person at 600 (a potentially readily attainable value through CORE Resonance Training™) counteracts the negativity of 10 million below 200, one person at 500 counteracts the negativity of 750,000 below 200, and so on.

The Map identifies our priorities as a species, i.e., how we go forward, how we become in-sync with the overall whole, and how we take our rightful place as a conscious and sentient species. CORE Resonance Colonies™ is the ideal incubation environment for such rapid advancement and deployment.
— excerpted from The Twelve Premises of CORE Resonance Colonies: for an enlightened world by J.Hamilton.

*About Dr. David Hawkins:
He was a renowned as a physician, author, lecturer, researcher of consciousness and trained as a psychiatrist, had the largest practice in New York. Dr. Hawkins was the Medical Director of the North Nassau Mental Health Center (1956-1980) and Director of Research at Brunswick Hospital (1968-1979) on Long Island and served as a psychiatric advisor to Catholic, Protestant, and Buddhist monasteries. In 1973, he co-authored Ortho-molecular Psychiatry with Nobel Laureate chemist Linus Pauling, initiating a new field within psychiatry.
–https://veritaspub.com/dr-hawkins/

Namasté
J.Hamilton

[Harmony]

Dear Sasha Alisa,⚘

Maybe some of the terms used like frequency, higher or lower are fairly confusing. I use them sometimes because I can't think of the "right word"

I'm not scientific or musically gifted but I just let my own learning develop it's own road of learning. You just have to want to find out what you might be ready to observe and take on board.

Think of when you are at a happy moment, a day everybody seems to be cooperating and things are running smoothly or some beautiful musical chords that open your heart, an innocent puppy with unconditional love looking in your eyes and you return that love.

Stop and feel in your being, it can feel like a harmonious resonance that beats, reverberates with the rest of the universe. Like breathing along with the rhythm, no resistance, perfect timing no resistance against anything. Breath with it.

Think of an event that you feel a resistance in one of your energy centres of your body or chakra's. Be aware of where you feel it, a stuck energy, anything that comes up and makes you feel uncomfortable, discordant, painful. Is there a feeling of a blocking where no flow can happen, a squeezing.

These are examples I call flowing, resonant, or in step feelings; and discordant stuck uncomfortable feelings. Being aware of them and consciously finding a way you can bring the discordant energies into a flow are key choosing where you would rather be more often.

I think there would be others on the forum that can explain much better than I can☺.

[Trisher]

I have always had a problem with "frequencies" and "high/low/raise" vibrations

I can't explain it all right now, but i probably will do tomorrow, for now i'm just going to say this

As i said before in other thread, i wish whoever reused those words had better not, because it has mislead people into thinks and thinking that actually stops the human soul spiritual growth, but that's too long to explain here so i'm just going to post a simple example before going away.

Let's take the color "white" which most people identify with pureness or wisdom, and then let's take the color black, which most people identify with darkness and evil

One could say, if you only look at color white, or at the light, then you won't be able to learn anything new, because at light, all it's in front of you, while at dark, there are mysteries to uncover. Black or white, or red, or any other color, in the end if you are blind, you're still a human with a soul but you don't know how they look like, people started talking about "light and love" based on their understanding of the world, not of the soul, it just translated to the soul after other people picked it up. But it's just the same, "i can see" "I'm awake", "I have seen the light" and so on. Too bad for the blind i guess, but not really because blind people do have ways to see, for real

How can you learn something new if everything has already been shown to you? So you need to go look into the dark spot that you have never wandered into before (which caused science and traveling and going to the moon and mars and even the internet and the web later on, and cell phones and satellites and pretty much everything these days) and not go wandering in circles while on the light, because it's all your safe zone where everything is already known, no worries no fear no new stuff, you can understand it all and there's no danger. So let's repeat the mantras for 10,000 years instead of daring to look for something new. Then you have a religion, not a search for truth

Following that mindset, if you allow, please read the following:

Frequencies and vibrations are not 100% related, frequencies are not high or low, frequencies are fast or slow, it goes sideways, not up and down. While it has been associated with vibration and the higher the vibration frequency goes it is assumed it's "more pure" or "high" it is not really true

An evil person still vibrates and can raise their "frequency" in ways that makes him more "evil", raising or lowering "frequencies" has nothing to do with ascension, in fact, but i'll get to that later

A nice person is only nice from the point of view of other person who understands in a certain way, what "nice" means. So frequencies, as a musical instrument vibrating or a machine doing noises at certain intervals (what frequency really means) has nothing to do with spirituality, it has to do with what the receiving person feels or understands about the vibrations, it's a perception thing

A machine running and making a small noise every 5 seconds it's still vibrating and following a frequency (at which times it makes that small noise) and it has nothing to do with spirituality, a plane is vibrating and following a frequency you can clearly hear, and still not spirituality because a plane is not a living being with a soul

I'm not sure if i even want to say all the things i could say, please don't take this as insult or ways to try to go against you, is just not that at all. I find it hard to explain without people thinking i'm trying to take them down, or insult them, but that's not insult or ways to try to go against you, is just not that at all. I find it hard to explainreally true at all

I need to think but if you would like to allow me explain more please let me know, i'm just going to not do that on my own because i don't want to force myself into you guys, and because i can see how most of what i can say will not be cool with most people who have spent lots of times following specific trends or roads in life. And i don't promise anything but truth as far as i can see it, and nothing more (my truth is mine and yours is yours, i'm just showing my point of view)

I can say this however, and people who know about this aspect of nature will know this is true

A "demon" has a faster frequency (higher in the new age vocabulary) than most humans, why? He's not human, "raising" (speeding up your frequency so you match other dimension or phase of existence) only means you are trying to reach another level where you can speed up enough to "see/match" what previously was going way too fast for your human eyes (perception). Demons are angels still, just not the "white" ones, so that's why they can influence and affect human life, you need to understand that aspect of life and nature before moving forward, see? And that's part of why most people immediately reject these words.

So, if you reach the same speed as "them", you can look at them in their real form, not just some random blur as before, because you have reached the same "frequency" or "speed" they exist in

If you raise your frequency, the way most people think it works, the first thing you will find are demons :) Demons who looks beautiful and pure, because they are (angels) in levels, there are several "pureness" levels

Thank you for sharing this Sasha Alisa. You have introduced many points here but I will start with one that I too have come across and been very surprised by. That is the seemingly high vibration of Beings that have no good intent for us and who divert and entangle us as we try to surface into our true selves. My experience has shown me that these Beings are higher in vibration than a quite a large number of the population. This was a steep learning curve for me. However I found that none of these Beings resonate with heart energies or unconditional love. They have a limit to which they can go in vibration and to escape them we have to go higher and higher. This is not complicated. Coming from the heart is simplicity itself. Being kindness is also simple. I found that the defining link of escaping these Beings was to open the heart, still the mind and stay as present as possible and only do work energetically from and with Source. There are no fake Beings in Source. This also involved clearing out old belief systems. That included all New Age thinking. All of it. It really was just a stepping stone. To mention just a small part of it that holds us down and traps us are symbols.. any. We have far more innate power than any symbol. If you happen to use any of these systems that use symbols then I ask you to test it for yourself. First ask for the energy (name it) between the hands. Feel it. Then let it go. Now ask for your highest and purest energy between the hands and compare them for yourself. It is almost like we have had a glass barrier which we endlessly tried to escape and then stopped. Then it was removed and we still do not escape. The matrix is the glass sheet that has been removed. It is a very individual process to step beyond it.

There is now a much greater opportunity to shift with the change. All those that have broken through and out of the manipulation of the Matrix have made a shining path that is glowing in the dark :clapping:

Trisher

[Mashika]

I have always had a problem with "frequencies" and "high/low/raise" vibrations

I can't explain it all right now, but i probably will do tomorrow, for now i'm just going to say this

As i said before in other thread, i wish whoever reused those words had better not, because it has mislead people into thinks and thinking that actually stops the human soul spiritual growth, but that's too long to explain here so i'm just going to post a simple example before going away.

Let's take the color "white" which most people identify with pureness or wisdom, and then let's take the color black, which most people identify with darkness and evil

One could say, if you only look at color white, or at the light, then you won't be able to learn anything new, because at light, all it's in front of you, while at dark, there are mysteries to uncover. Black or white, or red, or any other color, in the end if you are blind, you're still a human with a soul but you don't know how they look like, people started talking about "light and love" based on their understanding of the world, not of the soul, it just translated to the soul after other people picked it up. But it's just the same, "i can see" "I'm awake", "I have seen the light" and so on. Too bad for the blind i guess, but not really because blind people do have ways to see, for real

How can you learn something new if everything has already been shown to you? So you need to go look into the dark spot that you have never wandered into before (which caused science and traveling and going to the moon and mars and even the internet and the web later on, and cell phones and satellites and pretty much everything these days) and not go wandering in circles while on the light, because it's all your safe zone where everything is already known, no worries no fear no new stuff, you can understand it all and there's no danger. So let's repeat the mantras for 10,000 years instead of daring to look for something new. Then you have a religion, not a search for truth

Following that mindset, if you allow, please read the following:

Frequencies and vibrations are not 100% related, frequencies are not high or low, frequencies are fast or slow, it goes sideways, not up and down. While it has been associated with vibration and the higher the vibration frequency goes it is assumed it's "more pure" or "high" it is not really true

An evil person still vibrates and can raise their "frequency" in ways that makes him more "evil", raising or lowering "frequencies" has nothing to do with ascension, in fact, but i'll get to that later

A nice person is only nice from the point of view of other person who understands in a certain way, what "nice" means. So frequencies, as a musical instrument vibrating or a machine doing noises at certain intervals (what frequency really means) has nothing to do with spirituality, it has to do with what the receiving person feels or understands about the vibrations, it's a perception thing

A machine running and making a small noise every 5 seconds it's still vibrating and following a frequency (at which times it makes that small noise) and it has nothing to do with spirituality, a plane is vibrating and following a frequency you can clearly hear, and still not spirituality because a plane is not a living being with a soul

I'm not sure if i even want to say all the things i could say, please don't take this as insult or ways to try to go against you, is just not that at all. I find it hard to explain without people thinking i'm trying to take them down, or insult them, but that's not insult or ways to try to go against you, is just not that at all. I find it hard to explainreally true at all

I need to think but if you would like to allow me explain more please let me know, i'm just going to not do that on my own because i don't want to force myself into you guys, and because i can see how most of what i can say will not be cool with most people who have spent lots of times following specific trends or roads in life. And i don't promise anything but truth as far as i can see it, and nothing more (my truth is mine and yours is yours, i'm just showing my point of view)

I can say this however, and people who know about this aspect of nature will know this is true

A "demon" has a faster frequency (higher in the new age vocabulary) than most humans, why? He's not human, "raising" (speeding up your frequency so you match other dimension or phase of existence) only means you are trying to reach another level where you can speed up enough to "see/match" what previously was going way too fast for your human eyes (perception). Demons are angels still, just not the "white" ones, so that's why they can influence and affect human life, you need to understand that aspect of life and nature before moving forward, see? And that's part of why most people immediately reject these words.

So, if you reach the same speed as "them", you can look at them in their real form, not just some random blur as before, because you have reached the same "frequency" or "speed" they exist in

If you raise your frequency, the way most people think it works, the first thing you will find are demons :) Demons who looks beautiful and pure, because they are (angels) in levels, there are several "pureness" levels

Thank you for sharing this Sasha Alisa. You have introduced many points here but I will start with one that I too have come across and been very surprised by. That is the seemingly high vibration of Beings that have no good intent for us and who divert and entangle us as we try to surface into our true selves. My experience has shown me that these Beings are higher in vibration than a quite a large number of the population. This was a steep learning curve for me. However I found that none of these Beings resonate with heart energies or unconditional love. They have a limit to which they can go in vibration and to escape them we have to go higher and higher. This is not complicated. Coming from the heart is simplicity itself. Being kindness is also simple. I found that the defining link of escaping these Beings was to open the heart, still the mind and stay as present as possible. This also involved clearing out old belief systems. That included all New Age thinking. All of it. It really was just a stepping stone. To mention just a small part of it that holds us down and traps us are symbols.. any. We have far more innate power than any symbol. If you happen to use any of these systems that use symbols then I ask you to test it for yourself. First ask for the energy (name it) between the hands. Feel it. Then let it go. Now ask for your highest and purest energy between the hands and compare them for yourself. It is almost like we have had a glass barrier which we endlessly tried to escape and then stopped. Then it was removed and we still do not escape. The matrix is the glass sheet that has been removed. It is a very individual process to step beyond it.

There is now a much greater opportunity to shift with the change. All those that have broken through and out of the manipulation of the Matrix have made a shining path that is glowing in the dark :clapping:

Trisher

Of course, you can escape that limit they can't, but in order to do that, you need to understand how it works, so you don't get mislead into thinking that you are going up when in reality you need to go a different direction, because there was no up or down. And while you think you are going up, you are in fact filling your mind and soul with explanations, instead of realizations


This also involved clearing out old belief systems. That included all New Age thinking. All of it

Yes indeed, but that's why i have an issue with those words, because those words, cause thoughts and feelings and lead to a path, very far away from the truth, and sometimes, there's no turning point back



It really was just a stepping stone.


If you look around, for most people it IS the truth and only way, it's not just a stepping stone, it has become a new religion, sacred and immutable, any reasoning against that means the person criticizing is desecrating it, and again that's the same as any other religion, no one can come out and say anything wrong about it because you are going to be burned at the stake, or whatever

That's how it mostly looks these days, it's just a new way to deal with the same old stuff, i want to talk about real spirituality and not being afraid to say what i "think i know" but mostly what i get is people spiting on my face or slapping me out of my arrogance for thinking i know or think more than i should lol

Anyway, the actual end of it is that no one really knows for sure, but the difference must be that if presented with some thoughts, those must be considered in full, not rejected or dismissed with lots of workaround sentences that only validate what the other person thinks without they ever thinking of the posibilities. That road leads to fundamentalism, which is very bad

I rejected all kind of symbolism way back, it was not meant for me, i asked too many questions. i demanded for too many answers. And i was rejected from church because of that, i was no sheep to be taken by any shepherd, i build my own road back home. IT did not take well with some people, so i just went away from that path

[greybeard]

Thank you Sr, i just one to point one thing out, but before that i want to apologize if i sound conflictive or just constantly denier, is not that really, i'm just searching for the truth and i was made in a way that i deconstruct things in such a way that i find things i need to ask to figure out how "it works"

Said that, i just would want to know about those numbers, because
"one person at 700 on the Map of Consciousness (admittedly a very high number), counterbalances the negativity of 70 million people below 200"

How it was really measured?

Did a fast reading on the site you linked and found it very interesting, going to find his books on kindle in a bit (hoping those were published as ebooks), i just wanted to know if you have figured that one aspect out because it would be very interesting to know before reading the books

-

Masha


Power vs Force and the map of consciousness by the late Dr David Hawkins and education.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19795.Power_vs_Force

https://www.coreresonance.com/map-of-consciousness/

Dr. Hawkins, MD PhD* spent the last three decades of his life in Arizona, working to correlate the seemingly disparate domains of science and spirituality. In 1983, he established the Institute for Spiritual Research, a nonprofit organization dedicated to consciousness research. In 1995, at the age of 68, he received a Ph.D. in Health and Human Services. That same year saw the publication of his book, Power vs. Force, translated into 25 languages, with over a million copies sold and evoking praise from such notables as Mother Teresa and Sam Walton.

The book presents his trademarked “Map of Consciousness,” now used by health professionals, university professors, government officials, and business executives worldwide. One of his fundamental concepts was that…

“we change the world not by what we say or do but as a consequence of what we have become.” (*)

The Map of Consciousness identifies the fact that the more conscious we become, the more we contribute to the harmony and unfolding of the planet. The Map of Consciousness suggests that advancing human consciousness is the most expeditious means by which humans become responsible members of the planet and step into roles that extend our capacities as human beings.

Advancing consciousness is the only means by which we can rectify the damage human beings have wrought in their adolescence as a species. In fact, advancing individual and collective consciousness is the only mechanism worthy of our truest attention.

For example, one person at 700 on the Map of Consciousness (admittedly a very high number), counterbalances the negativity of 70 million people below 200. One person at 600 (a potentially readily attainable value through CORE Resonance Training™) counteracts the negativity of 10 million below 200, one person at 500 counteracts the negativity of 750,000 below 200, and so on.

The Map identifies our priorities as a species, i.e., how we go forward, how we become in-sync with the overall whole, and how we take our rightful place as a conscious and sentient species. CORE Resonance Colonies™ is the ideal incubation environment for such rapid advancement and deployment.
— excerpted from The Twelve Premises of CORE Resonance Colonies: for an enlightened world by J.Hamilton.

*About Dr. David Hawkins:
He was a renowned as a physician, author, lecturer, researcher of consciousness and trained as a psychiatrist, had the largest practice in New York. Dr. Hawkins was the Medical Director of the North Nassau Mental Health Center (1956-1980) and Director of Research at Brunswick Hospital (1968-1979) on Long Island and served as a psychiatric advisor to Catholic, Protestant, and Buddhist monasteries. In 1973, he co-authored Ortho-molecular Psychiatry with Nobel Laureate chemist Linus Pauling, initiating a new field within psychiatry.
–https://veritaspub.com/dr-hawkins/

Namasté
J.Hamilton

Apart from the fact that Hawkins was enlightened--at that level they seem to have more accurate insights.
He had teams of people checking the figures with muscle testing -- simply the muscle goes weak with a false answer -- called kinesiology,
some therapists use it.


Even if you dont trust the statements I think you will agree that some people have an uplifting effect on people just with a smile -- just there presence alone is uplifting.
If you look at Mooji, listen to him on the enlightenment part of the forum --loads of videos there, im sure you will feel something good. Inside.
see the link

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=1369011&viewfull=1#post1369011
Chris

[Mashika]

Dear Sasha Alisa,⚘

Maybe some of the terms used like frequency, higher or lower are fairly confusing. I use them sometimes because I can't think of the "right word"

The way it has been used had lead people for decades into going the wrong way about how to really grow, so you end up finding people who turned the awakening into a new religion that doesn't forgive to be more awake than the older ones, just as any other religion

What if i come with other knowledge? Other people will tell me i'm wrong because how can i know more than the elders that came up with these words and concepts. And if i explain why they were wrong, then i'm just looking to insult and mislead, and i don't know what i'm talking about. This has been my experience so far, there's no room for change in the old/new religion see?



I'm not scientific or musically gifted but I just let my own learning develop it's own road of learning. You just have to want to find out what you might be ready to observe and take on board.

Think of when you are at a happy moment, a day everybody seems to be cooperating and things are running smoothly or some beautiful musical chords that open your heart, an innocent puppy with unconditional love looking in your eyes and you return that love.

Stop and feel in your being, it can feel like a harmonious resonance that beats, reverberates with the rest of the universe. Like breathing along with the rhythm, no resistance, perfect timing no resistance against anything. Breath with it.


I am, in a way, a person that can't avoid looking at things, colors, sounds, structures and such, and have to figure out how they were made. Like sounds, i have synesthesia, i can taste sounds, and sounds also tell me what color they are, like blue, gray, this sequence is white/gray, and that note is red. And i can taste it mostly as well. It's weird but even names or how people talk to me leads me into figuring out colors and tastes, i can even taste the sadness of some people by the way they talk or even if they just get very close to me while feeling sad, it just translates into emotions in one way or another

If i'm not careful and let it all in, i may have a miserable day, just because someone next to me on the bus or the street was having a bad day, i get completely immersed into it and i can't shake it for hours, that's how it is. I still can't go open 7/11 fridges just like normal, i have to wrap my hand in my shirt or jacket or a napkin every single time :/

I could never explain really unless other people see it, see this for example, there is more than just the usual stuff that most people talk about, sometimes it even just happens in daily life and most people ignore it and keep going, it's just "the usual' for them and there's no gain or reason to figure it out

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108828-An-experience-in-Peru&p=1317722&viewfull=1#post1317722




Think of an event that you feel a resistance in one of your energy centres of your body or chakra's. Be aware of where you feel it, a stuck energy, anything that comes up and makes you feel uncomfortable, discordant, painful. Is there a feeling of a blocking where no flow can happen, a squeezing.

These are examples I call flowing, resonant, or in step feelings; and discordant stuck uncomfortable feelings. Being aware of them and consciously finding a way you can bring the discordant energies into a flow are key choosing where you would rather be more often.

I think there would be others on the forum that can explain much better than I can☺.

The resonate thing is what i was talking about, vibrations, you can have them but everything in this world vibrates, even old floors in wooden houses vibrate and you can hear them, i have seen things that probably due to my weird stuff only make sense to me and no one else, but are true in my eyes

A feeling of uncomfortable does not necessarily means bad, it can mean you just don't understand it yet, and you may eventually then it's not bad but just something that happens. Most people feel that when facing unknown things. The nature of good and bad is perception on one end or the other. Allow me to explain a bit

Let's suppose this scenario

There are two kids on a city, one has a parent who is an important person in a company, the other is poor and has a father who is a criminal who deals with drugs and such. Both kids share the same birthday. The day of their birthday, one parent goes to work at his company, the other one at the streets, both looking to earn a life

In the afternoon, both are going back home, company father has money so he's just going happy for the birthday, drug dealer father didn't get any money, so he's going upset and sad back home. Company father stops by to get a cake for his son, drug dealer guy sees him and takes the chance to get his money to buy the cake he promised. A cop sees the situation and shots the drug dealer guy, he dies

One kid is going to get his dad home with a cake and they will embrace and the dad will give thanks to God he made it back home to see his kid. The other kid, will wait and wait and wait and his dad will never come back

Which one of those kids is on the good end? No one? Both? the kid from the dad that survived? What if it would have gone backwards and the drug dealer gets home with a cake and they all celebrate and the parent is happy and they move on, while on the other side of the city there's a completely destroyed family that will spend years trying to figure out how to keep going? It's just the same in both ends in the end, rules and laws and human perception of things doesn't mean much for the people involved, it's just inside them, but people outside will have a way to look at those events, for sure

And that's life, Yin/Yang and stuff? Life and Death, a Lion will kill you he doesn't have any feelings or regrets, he doesn't need to

Understanding the complexity of life, sometimes requires to experience the complexity of death, otherwise we can all say stuff about it but it's like talking about how the sand feels on mars when we never stepped on it, or anywhere else but this planet

Sorry, i'm not trying to be difficult, i'm just expressing my mind, i have seen so many odd stuff and things that most people don't see ever, i have a different view of some things due to that. I find that most explanations don't fit what i have seen or experienced before so i'm looking for answers, and sometimes it really gets difficult to explain my reasoning or experiences, but there's a reason for it as well

I really thought about opening another thread because i assumed this was going to lead into a separate direction than the thread's title, so i think it's better to stop now and maybe possibly continue somewhere else later

[EFO]

Thank you Sr, i just one to point one thing out, but before that i want to apologize if i sound conflictive or just constantly denier, is not that really, i'm just searching for the truth and i was made in a way that i deconstruct things in such a way that i find things i need to ask to figure out how "it works"

Said that, i just would want to know about those numbers, because
"one person at 700 on the Map of Consciousness (admittedly a very high number), counterbalances the negativity of 70 million people below 200"

How it was really measured?

Did a fast reading on the site you linked and found it very interesting, going to find his books on kindle in a bit (hoping those were published as ebooks), i just wanted to know if you have figured that one aspect out because it would be very interesting to know before reading the books

-

Masha


Dear Masha,

Until greybeard will possible reply to your question,I will try to reply at the same question as short and clear as I can.:)

For more than two years,anonymously and "subversively",I "work" in my region to change/transmute the negative energy/ies.It doesn't require meditation or certain procedure/s.Things became clearly visible on some occasion at the end of last year when and idiot hit a small size and inoffensive dog with a piece of rubber hose as an act of bravado and superiority,breaking one of her back feet.

In the moment when the idiot hit the dog,all the people that were in the area has start shouting and even cursed him for what he did.I don't want to enter in more details what happened after,only to say that under the point that I created,people reaction was different than previous years when in same circumstances the people would agree and laugh by the scene.

As per numbers we were 7 or 8 to 1 idiot.

I have other examples (even with this cv19 situation,or by ages) of how I changed human behavior,even on myself,but is not the subject.I any case also being short and without knowing to much about the map of consciousness,I always said that in these particular times in which we are living now,as much "negativity" is poured at least 10 times more "positivity" is also poured not only to annihilate it and replace it,but also to energetically improve the area of happening.

We are extremely low or better say almost out of balance regarding positive energy regarding humans and we have to work a lot to,at least,rebalance the things,if not even more.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hbRK39UZcRqncUsKPh8KHQHaFa%26pid%3DApi&f=1

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-jKLGGpY1d4hNetgEWstgQHaFA%26pid%3DApi&f=1

In almost 7 years I came from level 175 to somewhere a liiiiittle below 400 with spikes a liiittle above 500. :)

[Mashika]

Are we in a matrix?
If so, what is it?
If we are in a matrix, do we get out? If we want to get out, how do we do it?

I'm sure we are in a matrix, a multidimensional hack, preventing Gaia and humans from experiencing and downloading incredible creative informational fields to create and find new potentials and solutions.

I do want to get out, though I see it as a matter of dissolving the matrix, an outshining from grounding in high vibrations for ourselves and Gaia.

We can start grounding in those high vibes by being kind to one another, the practice of detachment and mindfulness. Gratitude being a big one to increase those vibrations.

But what do you feel?

When you said, "Preventing Gaia" what did you meant? That Gaia is somehow limited by other beings?



an outshining from grounding in high vibrations

See my post at here:


A "demon" has a faster frequency (higher in the new age vocabulary) than most humans, why? He's not human, "raising" (speeding up your frequency so you match other dimension or phase of existence) only means you are trying to reach another level where you can speed up enough to "see/match" what previously was going way too fast for your human eyes (perception). Demons are angels still, just not the "white" ones, so that's why they can influence and affect human life, you need to understand that aspect of life and nature before moving forward, see? And that's part of why most people immediately reject these words.

So, if you reach the same speed as "them", you can look at them in their real form, not just some random blur as before, because you have reached the same "frequency" or "speed" they exist in

If you raise your frequency, the way most people think it works, the first thing you will find are demons Demons who looks beautiful and pure, because they are (angels) in levels, there are several "pureness" levels

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111615-The-Matrix.-Are-we-in-one-If-so-how-do-we-get-out&p=1369784&viewfull=1#post1369784

Higher vibrations are not the answer to your needs, but if you have a good explanation about them please explain, it would be awesome to learn about them.

As far as i have gone, vibrations and frequencies are a dead end to really "ascend" because the term itself is wrong, you never go up or down, there is no up or down, it mixes up your brain so you end up working very hard towards a goal that leads nowhere, you lose your foot and time, you don't get to open your eyes because they were focused on something that doesn't exist. And if you look for reasoning why you can't escape this "matrix", it's probably because you are trying to look up while it was on your left, or right all along, so to speak

Up/down/Raise/Ascend/Higher/lower

All those words, wire your brain to think in a specific way, so much that you can't figure out a simple other approach like going sideways, fast/slow. See?

All your life ends up in you trying to figure out how to "raise" to something that doesn't and will never exist. That's a trap

[Mashika]

Thank you Sr, i just one to point one thing out, but before that i want to apologize if i sound conflictive or just constantly denier, is not that really, i'm just searching for the truth and i was made in a way that i deconstruct things in such a way that i find things i need to ask to figure out how "it works"

Said that, i just would want to know about those numbers, because
"one person at 700 on the Map of Consciousness (admittedly a very high number), counterbalances the negativity of 70 million people below 200"

How it was really measured?

Did a fast reading on the site you linked and found it very interesting, going to find his books on kindle in a bit (hoping those were published as ebooks), i just wanted to know if you have figured that one aspect out because it would be very interesting to know before reading the books

-

Masha


Dear Masha,

Until greybeard will possible reply to your question,I will try to reply at the same question as short and clear as I can.:)

For more than two years,anonymously and "subversively",I "work" in my region to change/transmute the negative energy/ies.It doesn't require meditation or certain procedure/s.Things became clearly visible on some occasion at the end of last year when and idiot hit a small size and inoffensive dog with a piece of rubber hose as an act of bravado and superiority,breaking one of her back feet.

In the moment when the idiot hit the dog,all the people that were in the area has start shouting and even cursed him for what he did.I don't want to enter in more details what happened after,only to say that under the point that I created,people reaction was different than previous years when in same circumstances the people would agree and laugh by the scene.

As per numbers we were 7 or 8 to 1 idiot.

I have other examples (even with this cv19 situation,or by ages) of how I changed human behavior,even on myself,but is not the subject.I any case also being short and without knowing to much about the map of consciousness,I always said that in these particular times in which we are living now,as much "negativity" is poured at least 10 times more "positivity" is also poured not only to annihilate it and replace it,but also to energetically improve the area of happening.

We are extremely low or better say almost out of balance regarding positive energy regarding humans and we have to work a lot to,at least,rebalance the things,if not even more.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hbRK39UZcRqncUsKPh8KHQHaFa%26pid%3DApi&f=1

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-jKLGGpY1d4hNetgEWstgQHaFA%26pid%3DApi&f=1

In almost 7 years I came from level 175 to somewhere a liiiiittle below 400 with spikes a liiittle above 500. :)

However you still working under a framework based on human qualities, what makes something good and what makes something bad? Human perception of those things

In the general nature of the universe and creation, human perception or right or assumptions about how things must be, or what means to be negative or positive, is meaningless

Example: A plane may crash if you don't take care of the engines correctly, or to make sure that if a rock goes inside it won't explode

Some people: If we keep the tracks clean it won't happen
Other people: Let's add a second input just for take off so that the main engine is closed while taking off, it will save the pilots life's in the extreme case

Positive: "Yes, but It probably won't happen, we're good"
Negative : "Yes but it doesn't matter, let's do it anyway"

If we all work inside the accepted framework which our human bodies allow to perceive, we are lost

Going to sleep now <3

Thanks for your answer, i wish i had more time to talk about this, but i think we went way off topic now :) Mostly because of me, i'm sorry

Spasibo

[greybeard]

Hawkins explained the seeming world off opposites.
As an example.
A thermometer measures temperature.
Extreem heat going down to lack of heat.
Same with love --unconditional going down in degrees of love to absence of love.
His map of consciousness is based on degrees of spirituality.
Divine energy ---the same in everything but in varying degrees till a lack of divine energy.

Give him his due he simplified what seems complex.
Chris

[Mashika]

Thought about trying to unpack a bit the vibration and frequency concepts here

Let’s say you are vibrating at some frequency. Just for quick explanation we use some fake small numbers, we humans vibrate 5 times per second, but part of the Matrix simulation that takes care of directing/affecting our perception vibrates 10 times per second (faster than us) Every time we vibrate, the simulator already went away so you never able to see it, even if it’s happening right in front of you, because the vibration intervals do not match

The Matrix vibrates while we are resting, then we vibrate when the Matrix is resting (in between frequency intervals). So all sorts of things could be happening right in front of our “eyes” that we just can’t see because we are on a different vibrating frequency

Increasing or raising your vibration means you make your vibration stronger, but it still doesn’t change the interval at which you vibrate, you will just vibrate stronger, 5 times per second. However speeding up your frequency interval (from 5 to 10 vibrations per second) and make it match so that when you vibrate, the Matrix is also vibrating, suddenly would cause you to see the Matrix simulator running in front of you

So the trap with raising/lowering vibrations and frequencies, is that people are trying to vibrate stronger, on in a more pure way (more controlled and in harmony, like a good musical note) but they are still running at the same speed, they have not speed up they frequency, they just perfected the vibration of their body so that it is more beautiful. We are still the same note, only it is more balanced and perfected, but we won’t be able to match the Matrix vibrating frequency so we’ll never escape it. Another trap is thinking that just by increasing your frequency you can escape it, it's not really true because if you think about it, the problem is not just how fast your vibration cycles are, but that it has to match the vibration of the Matrix, otherwise you would be going fast but still unable to 'see' if you go 1000 faster but 'sleep' at the time the Matrix is awake, it would not change anything at all

This is what i mean, we may send all our lives trying to perfect our vibration or make it stronger, it won’t moves us one centimeter closer to identifying or escaping the Matrix

But if you understood how to control when the vibration cycles start/end, instead of increasing your vibration strength or speed, then you would be able to see the Matrix working in front of you and even possibly reach and affect it. 

The problem i see is that a lot of people think of frequencies as vibration itself, which is not at all, so they dedicate years to perfect that without noticing they are not doing much other than sounding better over time, but not changing the note at all (not increasing the frequency rate)

This is like Binaural beats, except there are other aspects involved, not just sound vibrations, it would have to be way more complex than that in the end. But just as with binaural beats, the combination of two tones running at different but close frequencies generates a third sound, (or the matrix simulation we see?)

How to identify if we are on the Matrix? We would have to first figure out these kind of details and find a way to test them out, so we can understand it at some level. All i can say is that applying some practices without understanding how it works at least at some basic level can even makes us more harm than good in the end (the perception that we are doing something for us while really not changing things much beyond what we perceive inside the simulation, or how do we feel/experience it)

I know this is not a perfect explanation, apologies for that. Just hope i was able to clarify a bit what i was trying to explain about why raising/lowering vibrations or “frequencies“ may just not be how you can effect change the way it is described most times

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Masha

[Delight]

how to control when the vibration cycles start/end, instead of increasing your vibration strength or speed, then you would be able to see the Matrix working in front of you and even possibly reach and affect it.

I read your posts and think that you make sense.... can you explain more here?

[Mashika]

how to control when the vibration cycles start/end, instead of increasing your vibration strength or speed, then you would be able to see the Matrix working in front of you and even possibly reach and affect it.

I read your posts and think that you make sense.... can you explain more here?


Hi, thanks, i'm still trying to form a better more coherent set of ideas around that, that's why it's kind of all over the place but just wanted to put it out here in case someone found it valuable or can add to it

Basically what i mean is that increasing/decreasing vibrations on it's own doesn't mean much if we are not in sync, so if we able to be on our "awake" cycle at the same time the Matrix is, then we could identify how it works, and 'see' it, not all the times if the matrix has a faster frequency, but there would be at least a few 'awake' times when both the Matrix and the human would be awake, and at that point a human could change something on the simulation

For example, a state machine works like this

There is an object that will be modified, in several steps, these steps happen at intervals

Let's use a coffee mug as example:

Step 1: Coffee mug is on a table
Step 2: A hand moves it a bit to the edge
Step 3: Previous state was coffee mug was on the edge, the hand pushes again
Step 4: The coffee mug is on the air, falling down
Step 5: The coffee mug is on the air, falling down
Step 6: The coffee mug is on the air, falling down
Step 7: The coffee mug has touched the floor
Step 8: Coffee mug is broken

That's what we would see, in a basic level, right?

Then the Matrix would actually do this

Step 1: Coffee mug is on a table
1.1 Matrix displays a sitting coffee mug on a table
Step 2: A hand moves it a bit to the edge
2.1 Redraw the state of the coffee mug so that it’s closer to the edge
Step 3: Previous state was coffee mug was on the edge, the hand pushes again
3.1 Redraw coffee mug so that it is displayed in the air
Step 4: The coffee mug is on the air, show it floating and falling because physic rules says gravity will cause that
4.1 Display the coffee mug falling down, at x position
Step 5: The coffee mug is on the air, show it floating and falling because physic rules says gravity will cause that
5.1 Display the coffee mug falling down, at x + 1 position
Step 6: The coffee mug is on the air, show it floating and falling because physic rules says gravity will cause that
6.1 Display the coffee mug falling down, at x + 2 position
Step 7: The coffee mug hits has touched the floor
7.1 Redraw the coffee mug in pieces, apply physics rules to all the pieces (this causes other state machine to run for every piece as they have to be drawn moving across the floor and in the air)

The Matrix is running at every x.1 step, at the time we are ‘sleeping’ so we never see these actions applied and when we wake up, we just see the coffee mug is reaching the floor, as we expect but we never see the Matrix doing all that work to replace it or displaying it broken in the end

But if we could match some of our awake times with the awake times of the Matrix where it is doing that hidden work, then we could possibly do something like this
Step 3: Previous state was coffee mug was on the edge, the hand pushes again
3.1 Redraw coffee mug so that it is displayed in the air
3.1.1 Erase the coffee mug from the air and display it again on the table << HUMAN modified the Matrix

Would the Matrix now? If we do this just as soon as the Matrix goes into its ‘sleep’ state? The next time the Matrix wakes up the mug won’t be in the air, or we will have two mugs, one in the air at a lower position (step 4) and a new one on the table because we moved it back while the Matrix was sleeping



So it would not matter if our frequency is crazy high or fast, because if we can't match those sleep/awake cycles at least a few times, then we will never see steps x.1 and can't escape the simulation ever, we are just spinning faster and harder, but missing every single chance to do anything about it

This is just one aspect of how a simulation would work, of course very basic example

What we don't have is a way to test this :)

[palehorse]

When we say Up, Down, Left, Right, Strong, Weak, Higher, Lower we mean opposite directions and a space for visualization, we somehow have to visualize it from the abstract, hence we create the space as our brain visualize it to give a better picture to a dialog or group discussion, otherwise no one would understand what we are talking about, mathematicians and physicists use formulas which is not accessible to everyone, take a look how a vector works in computer programming, if it is stored in memory, it is sequential memory allocation there is no tridimensional array for example, it is just a visualization (display output) of it that is in 3D form, because our brain absorbs it in a much easier way.

In Buddhist meditation, different schools/branches use different techniques in order to meditate, in Mahāyāna for example, they use images, odors and sounds (certain frequencies) in order to "trick" the brain into a meditative state, in Theravada there is nothing but your breath (in and out) to meditate upon and here is where it differs from all the rest meditation techniques, it is all abstract (raw) instead of peaceful images of Buddha, pungent odors or sounds!

I do not know exactly what to say about it, but to bring something abstract into picture, we have to use this properties as I said before, if there is another way to do it, please let me know, my mind is all open to learn.

Thank you all for keep posting.

[Mashika]

When we say Up, Down, Left, Right, Strong, Weak, Higher, Lower we mean opposite directions and a space for visualization, we somehow have to visualize it from the abstract, hence we create the space as our brain visualize it to give a better picture to a dialog or group discussion, otherwise no one would understand what we are talking about, mathematicians and physicists use formulas which is not accessible to everyone, take a look how a vector works in computer programming, if it is stored in memory, it is sequential memory allocation there is no tridimensional array for example, it is just a visualization (display output) of it that is in 3D form, because our brain absorbs it in a much easier way.

In Buddhist meditation, different schools/branches use different techniques in order to meditate, in Mahāyāna for example, they use images, odors and sounds (certain frequencies) in order to "trick" the brain into a meditative state, in Theravada there is nothing but your breath (in and out) to meditate upon and here is where it differs from all the rest meditation techniques, it is all abstract (raw) instead of peaceful images of Buddha, pungent odors or sounds!

I do not know exactly what to say about it, but to bring something abstract into picture, we have to use this properties as I said before, if there is another way to do it, please let me know, my mind is all open to learn.

Thank you all for keep posting.

The problem with abstraction is that we may be abstracting the wrong thing, because we don't understand it at least at a basic level

Just like someone saying "press this button or use this key to start the car engine", the car engine runs, but you don't know how or why, it has been abstracted in a way that you know an engine works by putting some kind of fuel into it and then you press or switch a key and it starts running

But someone had to figure out the low level stuff, and just in the same way, if we only care to learn the high level top down view, we will never be able to modify or fix the engine, we just know how to use it. Someone else knows the inner/lower details and they keep figuring how to change it or improve it

Abstractions only work because someone else knows inner workings, you can't abstract something to explain to others if you don't understand the concepts behind the abstraction

At this point, we hear a lot of talk about raising frequencies and vibrations, but no one could explain how it really works beyond more levels of abstraction, until they run out of answers very soon, if the answer to how something that has been abstracted is another abstraction, then there is no real answer

Have you ever played the game of "Why?", it's very simple, kind of goes like this

- Why do planes flight?
- Because they have wings and engine
- Why?
- Because the wings have a certain form that allow for lift of the plane's body
- Why?
- Because engineers figured out what form was needed to support the heavy body
- Why?
- Because they experimented and found the math behind it
- Why?
- Because they needed/wanted to make something fly
- Why?

And so on until you get to the very basics

However if it goes like this

- Why do planes flight?
- Because the engine pushes the plane into the air
- Why?
- Because someone knows how to make it
- Why?
- Because that's their job
- Why?
- Because someone hired them
- Why?
- Because someone wants to sell planes and we need them to travel

You never ever get to the real answers

And just like i was saying before, if people focus on those aspects, like "raise your vibration" and they don't really know "Why" or "How" they just repeat something they think will help them become better and such, but they don't really know if that's true or the reasoning behind it

We need to have at least some basic knowledge about the how and why, before we abstract something, otherwise we just lead a life that constantly moves away from the truth and into other aspects like considering some things sacred and impossible to understand, but sacred still, and immutable as a final truth

If we did that, then we would still be riding horses and walking, because objects heavier than air cannot fly, no one knew why, but it was "knowledge" and abstracted in that single sentence basically, you don't need to know the inner details, you just need to know that "fact" because it's obvious.

History is full of similar cases, people tend to build abstractions to make it easy to understand things, but it doesn't mean the abstraction is built on top of something that is truth or correct. It's just that now we have bigger abstractions because everything is way more complex than back then

[Trisher]

When we say Up, Down, Left, Right, Strong, Weak, Higher, Lower we mean opposite directions and a space for visualization, we somehow have to visualize it from the abstract, hence we create the space as our brain visualize it to give a better picture to a dialog or group discussion, otherwise no one would understand what we are talking about, mathematicians and physicists use formulas which is not accessible to everyone, take a look how a vector works in computer programming, if it is stored in memory, it is sequential memory allocation there is no tridimensional array for example, it is just a visualization (display output) of it that is in 3D form, because our brain absorbs it in a much easier way.

In Buddhist meditation, different schools/branches use different techniques in order to meditate, in Mahāyāna for example, they use images, odors and sounds (certain frequencies) in order to "trick" the brain into a meditative state, in Theravada there is nothing but your breath (in and out) to meditate upon and here is where it differs from all the rest meditation techniques, it is all abstract (raw) instead of peaceful images of Buddha, pungent odors or sounds!

I do not know exactly what to say about it, but to bring something abstract into picture, we have to use this properties as I said before, if there is another way to do it, please let me know, my mind is all open to learn.

Thank you all for keep posting.

Thank you Pale horse and all others who have tried to post that impossible to describe with words "space". Words are pointers only. It has been said in many ways here. A still mind. No words. No analysing. No thoughts. Being. Meditative space. No thinking. Open heart. Resonance. Connection to all that is. I could go on but won't.

If you analyse the words that are pointing in the direction of how to be still and not to think and try to understand them then you have completely missed the point. It is in the doing of it. Being still, not thinking. It is in doing it that you discover that feeling, that connection. If your thinking mind will not let you sit still and wants to know the whys and the wherefores then that's where techniques to still it come in. Its impossible for your mind to come in and achieve stillness. There absolutely are no words to describe that "space" that is achieved through that connection to all that is even though I am using words.

To analyse and interpret is to get further away from Source, All that is etc and more embedded in the matrix. Thinking blocks because it is the egoic mind that tries to grab on to and control "No mind". It will not let go easily. Stilling the thinking, meditating etc is the doorway out. It is ancient and nothing new at all. Many many words have been used endlessly to describe the impossible to describe. Just choose that which suits you. None of it matters except the Doing and Being of it.
Once in that space the analytical mind is left behind but in its place you will find something far more than you thought possible. Your own truth/source will emerge. An intelligence will flow and deep understanding will continue to ripen and flourish. You will not be searching but finding.

Trisher

[Zirconian]

Reading great posts and contributions:flower:

Palehorse: I find mindfulness a useful practice to calm the mind. The practice helps me detach and become more of an observer of life than a reactor. I'd rather feel peaceable and emit this thought (energy) field than reactionary. (though I do have my moments). It's a great life tool to BE in this matrix.

As part of many life tools, it is used in cognitive behavioural therapy and acceptance commitment therapy to aid people with anxiety/depression.

For me, the practice allows the mind in the heart to arise. Potentials and solutions can appear in this space.

I too love fractal pictures, particularly ones from nature, a clue to the nature of things?

Cracking the code of this matrix, to me is through source.

Trisher; I too feel that the question needs to be asked as to how long is humanity going to keep treading the same path? We've worn such a groove in this long playing record.
The painterdoug stated that there is more evidence for past lives than for a matrix. I agree.

However, from past life work, I have observed we are in an ever constant cycle of repeated themes. the scenery changes over the millennia but the themes remain. Surely we can change this. Haven't we seen enough of the same picture?

EFO, I love a good sci fi film and I'm halfway through the short film you posted.

Sacha, your posts are most welcome and you make very good points and observations.

Enjoying learning about Dr Hawkins. Thanks Greybeard.
Harmony thanks for your contributions.

[Harmony]

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf

Hi, I think this link above is a must read for helping to understand how brain frequencies might be playing a part in our observation of our surroundings, possibly matrix. Don't be put off by the CIA heading, it has some very interesting studies that may shine a light on questions you might have.


I'm only half way through and I'm really getting alot out of it. Member, Tamara Torres, put this document up, thank you, and you may have missed it in The Anglo Saxon Mission thread.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon- (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission&p=1368320&viewfull=1#post1368320)
Mission&p=1368320&viewfull=1#post1368320 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission&p=1368320&viewfull=1#post1368320)


"This is occuring at a very long wavelength of about 40,000 km, or just about the perimeter of the planet. In other words, the signal from the movement of our bodies will travel around the world in about one seventh of a second through the electrostatic field in which we are imbedded. Such a long wavelength knows no obstacles, and its strength does not attenuate much over large distances. Naturally it will go through just about anything: metal, concrete water, and the fields making up our bodies. It is the medium for conveying a telepathic signal."


"As the body....Thus, the same process which moves the brain into focused coherence at steadily higher levels of frequency and amplitude so as to entrain analgous frequencies in the universe for data collection also promotes enhancement of bodily energy levels to a point adequate to permit the subject to experience an out of body movement when he is ready ...In addition, by resonating with the earth's electromagnetic sphere the human body creates a surprisingly powerful carrier wave to assist the mind in communication activity with other human minds similarly tuned."


There is way too many interesting phenomenons to mention.:flower:

[Mashika]

When we say Up, Down, Left, Right, Strong, Weak, Higher, Lower we mean opposite directions and a space for visualization, we somehow have to visualize it from the abstract, hence we create the space as our brain visualize it to give a better picture to a dialog or group discussion, otherwise no one would understand what we are talking about, mathematicians and physicists use formulas which is not accessible to everyone, take a look how a vector works in computer programming, if it is stored in memory, it is sequential memory allocation there is no tridimensional array for example, it is just a visualization (display output) of it that is in 3D form, because our brain absorbs it in a much easier way.

In Buddhist meditation, different schools/branches use different techniques in order to meditate, in Mahāyāna for example, they use images, odors and sounds (certain frequencies) in order to "trick" the brain into a meditative state, in Theravada there is nothing but your breath (in and out) to meditate upon and here is where it differs from all the rest meditation techniques, it is all abstract (raw) instead of peaceful images of Buddha, pungent odors or sounds!

I do not know exactly what to say about it, but to bring something abstract into picture, we have to use this properties as I said before, if there is another way to do it, please let me know, my mind is all open to learn.

Thank you all for keep posting.

Thank you Pale horse and all others who have tried to post that impossible to describe with words "space". Words are pointers only. It has been said in many ways here. A still mind. No words. No analysing. No thoughts. Being. Meditative space. No thinking. Open heart. Resonance. Connection to all that is. I could go on but won't.

If you analyse the words that are pointing in the direction of how to be still and not to think and try to understand them then you have completely missed the point. It is in the doing of it. Being still, not thinking. It is in doing it that you discover that feeling, that connection. If your thinking mind will not let you sit still and wants to know the whys and the wherefores then that's where techniques to still it come in. Its impossible for your mind to come in and achieve stillness. There absolutely are no words to describe that "space" that is achieved through that connection to all that is even though I am using words.




To analyse and interpret is to get further away from Source

See this is a problem with what follows next, to understand is not to reject, or to drive yourself away from what you are trying to understand, it can actually get you closer, see my next comment after this other quote below



All that is etc and more embedded in the matrix. Thinking blocks because it is the egoic mind that tries to grab on to and control "No mind". It will not let go easily. Stilling the thinking, meditating etc is the doorway out. It is ancient and nothing new at all. Many many words have been used endlessly to describe the impossible to describe. Just choose that which suits you. None of it matters except the Doing and Being of it.
Once in that space the analytical mind is left behind but in its place you will find something far more than you thought possible. Your own truth/source will emerge. An intelligence will flow and deep understanding will continue to ripen and flourish. You will not be searching but finding.

Trisher

Meditation requires to understand several things inside you, and outside you, so that you can understand how and why you need to meditate, it just doesn't happen by just sitting there doing nothing at all, you have to place your mind in a specific state, your body and your heart and everything around you goes into that state where you are "still and calmed", then you can really get something out of meditation. All of this happens because you have learned something about you, that thing you learned, didn't just appear one day, you had to search for that state, inside/outside but you had to search for it at some point. We can't just look back and say "i was here all this time", because yes you were but you did not know how to see it until you searched for it

And this goes against



You will not be searching but finding

Because you can find that you need to search, and you can search for things you need to find, in order for you to not search but contemplate



None of it matters except the Doing and Being of it

In order to Doing and Being, you started searching in life at some point, it lead to this understanding

Learning more is not wrong, how you use that learning or knowledge is what may lead into "Thinking blocks because it is the egoic mind that tries to grab on to and control"

Because learning itself and contemplating things, doesn't lead into the urge to control, but rather it just leads into being a part of what's around you, you can become a part of it if you understand and feel it, otherwise you are looking from the outside, treating it as something sacred that you can't grasp, that's basically accepting you won't move towards being a part of it, but just accepting it's beyond you.

Nothing is beyond us, we are part of it all, we just need to "see it" and then understand more about it and appreciate it for what it really is, not what we assume it to be from far away

I cannot explain myself as well as you, but i think at least i may have provided some points here, but i would like if you don't mind, to hear more about your resoning

I'm not trying to control it, control is enforcing things, i'm trying to understand and be a part of, that situation allows you to control things somehow, but is not a requirement or needed at all, only some people look for knowledge with the purpose of control, other's do for the purpose of unity with the universe

[Mashika]

When we say Up, Down, Left, Right, Strong, Weak, Higher, Lower we mean opposite directions and a space for visualization, we somehow have to visualize it from the abstract, hence we create the space as our brain visualize it to give a better picture to a dialog or group discussion, otherwise no one would understand what we are talking about, mathematicians and physicists use formulas which is not accessible to everyone, take a look how a vector works in computer programming, if it is stored in memory, it is sequential memory allocation there is no tridimensional array for example, it is just a visualization (display output) of it that is in 3D form, because our brain absorbs it in a much easier way.

In Buddhist meditation, different schools/branches use different techniques in order to meditate, in Mahāyāna for example, they use images, odors and sounds (certain frequencies) in order to "trick" the brain into a meditative state, in Theravada there is nothing but your breath (in and out) to meditate upon and here is where it differs from all the rest meditation techniques, it is all abstract (raw) instead of peaceful images of Buddha, pungent odors or sounds!

I do not know exactly what to say about it, but to bring something abstract into picture, we have to use this properties as I said before, if there is another way to do it, please let me know, my mind is all open to learn.

Thank you all for keep posting.

Thank you Pale horse and all others who have tried to post that impossible to describe with words "space". Words are pointers only. It has been said in many ways here. A still mind. No words. No analysing. No thoughts. Being. Meditative space. No thinking. Open heart. Resonance. Connection to all that is. I could go on but won't.

If you analyse the words that are pointing in the direction of how to be still and not to think and try to understand them then you have completely missed the point. It is in the doing of it. Being still, not thinking. It is in doing it that you discover that feeling, that connection. If your thinking mind will not let you sit still and wants to know the whys and the wherefores then that's where techniques to still it come in. Its impossible for your mind to come in and achieve stillness. There absolutely are no words to describe that "space" that is achieved through that connection to all that is even though I am using words.




To analyse and interpret is to get further away from Source

See this is a problem with what follows next, to understand is not to reject, or to drive yourself away from what you are trying to understand, it can actually get you closer, see my next comment after this other quote below



All that is etc and more embedded in the matrix. Thinking blocks because it is the egoic mind that tries to grab on to and control "No mind". It will not let go easily. Stilling the thinking, meditating etc is the doorway out. It is ancient and nothing new at all. Many many words have been used endlessly to describe the impossible to describe. Just choose that which suits you. None of it matters except the Doing and Being of it.
Once in that space the analytical mind is left behind but in its place you will find something far more than you thought possible. Your own truth/source will emerge. An intelligence will flow and deep understanding will continue to ripen and flourish. You will not be searching but finding.

Trisher

Meditation requires to understand several things inside you, and outside you, so that you can understand how and why you need to meditate, it just doesn't happen by just sitting there doing nothing at all, you have to place your mind in a specific state, your body and your heart and everything around you goes into that state where you are "still and calmed", then you can really get something out of meditation. All of this happens because you have learned something about you, that thing you learned, didn't just appear one day, you had to search for that state, inside/outside but you had to search for it at some point. We can't just look back and say "i was here all this time", because yes you were but you did not know how to see it until you searched for it

And this goes against



You will not be searching but finding

Because you can find that you need to search, and you can search for things you need to find, in order for you to not search but contemplate



None of it matters except the Doing and Being of it

In order to Doing and Being, you started searching in life at some point, it lead to this understanding

Learning more is not wrong, how you use that learning or knowledge is what may lead into "Thinking blocks because it is the egoic mind that tries to grab on to and control"

Because learning itself and contemplating things, doesn't lead into the urge to control, but rather it just leads into being a part of what's around you, you can become a part of it if you understand and feel it, otherwise you are looking from the outside, treating it as something sacred that you can't grasp, that's basically accepting you won't move towards being a part of it, but just accepting it's beyond you.

Nothing is beyond us, we are part of it all, we just need to "see it" and then understand more about it and appreciate it for what it really is, not what we assume it to be from far away

I cannot explain myself as well as you, but i think at least i may have provided some points here, but i would like if you don't mind, to hear more about your resoning

I'm not trying to control it, control is enforcing things, i'm trying to understand and be a part of, that situation allows you to control things somehow, but is not a requirement or needed at all, only some people look for knowledge with the purpose of control, other's do for the purpose of unity with the universe

As i continually say, please don't think i'm trying to offend or insult, or being difficult, i'm just having some trouble trying to truly express what i mean <3

Maybe, my word salad can be easily explained by this

"We can not sit still and contemplate, something we cannot see at all"

[Trisher]

"Maybe, my word salad can be easily explained by this

"We can not sit still and contemplate, something we cannot see at all"

Thank you Sasha..you will not see it until you do sit still..that is the paradox. If your mind wants to constantly involve itself then it will stop you. No thinking whatsoever and no analysing. You are not contemplating but stilling the mind. If your mind wants in on the action and wants to understand things then that's not it and all you will find is yet more questions. Its not about engaging the mind but disengaging it. It is much more about engaging the heart.

Trisher

[Zirconian]

I agree with many posts that nobody truly knows what this matrix is and with those that agree it does exist, there is disagreement as to how to describe it.

Words have many meanings to different people,we also have our own perceptions and experiences that we bring to the table. It's not easy to describe what we feel particularly with regards to the concept of a matrix.

How do we find the truth of things? Difficult and there are many ways. Science being one and when science is combined with spirituality, it is a powerful contributor to truth.

For me, day to day, I use inner dowsing as a tool for truth.

I can only use it effectively when I'm out of EMF's as the EMF fields clamp my heart centre, lower my kundalini, saturate my third eye and disturb my pineal.

In a state of mind in the heart, openness, calling in source to go within in a pure state. I feel for the truth of things.

For example, before I read a book, I may want to understand how much the book resonates to a source truth. I feel my body responses. If my heart centre feels expanded and a fire has been lit and I can feel my life-force expand and there is upliftment. Then I'll proceed to read the book and consider it may hold a truth from source.

I have let go of every "new age" book following this method. In fact, I have questioned every belief I have. Most beliefs I held were not true.

For this tool to be effective, you really have to be in a centred space and be able to discriminate between your heart space filled with life-force and when it is flattened or suppressed.

From inner dowsing, I have concluded (and I'm open to being wrong....but I'm posting it has a possibility of truth), that our experience has been hacked in around about 20 -21 dimensional (information/consciousness fields). Above that ( deeper within) are source (pure) informational fields. You could also say we are hacked at 20 21 dimensions within us. For as you start releasing the hack, the outer reflection of within, your auric (human energy fields) start to disappear, reflecting a change within. You start to feel like a black hole.

From this space you can access more source fields within.

I say this to reply to Sacha Alisa's excellent points about vibration. This may explain why it appears that raising vibrations you may still experience a negative (not of love/ deceptive intent) being. I'm not judging just describing.

From my experience, these beings do hack into our energy fields. I'm alert to this, as I like my energy fields not to be influenced covertly and to be as I choose.
As my choice is to keep revealing source within not to be disrupted or supressed.

Personally, I would like to see a different macro (overall/average) picture, to the one that currently presents. One where humanity is working with these source information fields to create wondrous, uplifting, harmonious pictures for us all to delight and experience. Where source solutions are used in confidence to anything that might appear to disturb this harmony.

[Zirconian]

Harmony,

You have reminded me to also post this for consideration.

Nature,(Gaia) from what myself and others feel (I can only post from my experience, I post with the intent of discussion), is releasing or dissolving suppressive energy fields, though EMF's from masts can still be problematic.

Seems Gaia, as a consciousness is outshining suppression. Source fields are held in nature. (Gaia Source within) and we can access this in a clear heart space.

Gaia seems to be able to now further support our human energy fields with this outshining.

The EMF's from weather technology are flattening this outshining from time to time but Gaia for the first time, in a long time seems to continue to shine during this flattening.

Gaia's source informational fields are a great tool to use to feel source potentials and solutions when we can be in resonance with them.

[Trisher]

Harmony,

You have reminded me to also post this for consideration.

Nature,(Gaia) from what myself and others feel (I can only post from my experience, I post with the intent of discussion), is releasing or dissolving suppressive energy fields, though EMF's from masts can still be problematic.

Seems Gaia, as a consciousness is outshining suppression. Source fields are held in nature. (Gaia Source within) and we can access this in a clear heart space.

Gaia seems to be able to now further support our human energy fields with this outshining.

The EMF's from weather technology are flattening this outshining from time to time but Gaia for the first time, in a long time seems to continue to shine during this flattening.

Gaia's source informational fields are a great tool to use to feel source potentials and solutions when we can be in resonance with them.

Yesterday, out in the woods, I felt this sudden upliftment and totality of Being. Gaia is responsive to our focus. What you term "outshining" Zirconian is a lovely descriptive word of the feeling I get in Nature.

Trisher

[Alanantic]

"The soul is undergoing a dream from which it must awake. This dream represents our association and identification with the world. The fact that it is described as being a dream means that whatever is in it has to be false. Nothing in a dream can be true. Waking up from that dream is the ultimate goal, Self-realization." -- The main theme of "Yoga Vasistha"

[Zirconian]

I've just been reading the last page of the Wade Frazier Thread: A healed Planet.
I'm going to do my very best to catch up with the rest of his extensive, well written and informative material.

I have briefly read the Fifth Epoch, describing a world with free energy and the potentials for humanity and nature within that paradigm. (I'm probably behind most, as I'm new to Avalon).

What caught my attention was the descriptions of the visions of Michael Roads.Into a Timeless Realm,

Wade continues, "Roads visited two future human realities, about 300 years into our future. They were on opposite ends of the fear/love spectrum. Both were technologically advanced compared to today and both had genetic engineering, but the fear-dominated reality made Blade Runner’s Los Angeles seem like Disneyland, while a Disney movie could not begin to depict the love-based one. Visions such as those make it clear to me that our future will be what we make it. What we choose to do, today, determines what our tomorrow looks like. The fear-based world that Roads visited was filled with victims, from top to bottom. Those in that heavenly world all acted like true creators, and creators create with love. Love has always been the answer, and learning that lesson may be the reason why we are here, playing this life-on-Earth game."

This ties in neatly with what has been discussed.

We can create potentials from a space in the heart and emanate and spread that amongst the energy fields or we can acquiesce to fear, dominance and control via manipulation from (TPTB /interdimensional beings) working with non human resonant EMF's and emanate THAT within our energy fields.

Wade further explains, that Roads met with teenagers in the love-based reality. They demonstrated to him how they learned...….and they learnt from downloads into their cellular structure.

A few people are doing that now. Join in, if you feel that is right for you. Great potentials await. :heart:

[palehorse]

When we say Up, Down, Left, Right, Strong, Weak, Higher, Lower we mean opposite directions and a space for visualization, we somehow have to visualize it from the abstract, hence we create the space as our brain visualize it to give a better picture to a dialog or group discussion, otherwise no one would understand what we are talking about, mathematicians and physicists use formulas which is not accessible to everyone, take a look how a vector works in computer programming, if it is stored in memory, it is sequential memory allocation there is no tridimensional array for example, it is just a visualization (display output) of it that is in 3D form, because our brain absorbs it in a much easier way.

In Buddhist meditation, different schools/branches use different techniques in order to meditate, in Mahāyāna for example, they use images, odors and sounds (certain frequencies) in order to "trick" the brain into a meditative state, in Theravada there is nothing but your breath (in and out) to meditate upon and here is where it differs from all the rest meditation techniques, it is all abstract (raw) instead of peaceful images of Buddha, pungent odors or sounds!

I do not know exactly what to say about it, but to bring something abstract into picture, we have to use this properties as I said before, if there is another way to do it, please let me know, my mind is all open to learn.

Thank you all for keep posting.

The problem with abstraction is that we may be abstracting the wrong thing, because we don't understand it at least at a basic level




But someone did and verified, that's why we can rely on the that abstraction beneath it. Take this example on computers..

1 - gates build on electronic circuits;
2 - binary build on gates;
3 - machine language build on binary;
4 - programming language build on machine language;
5 - applications and operating systems build on programming languages.

Imagine if any developer/programmer writing an application, was forced to verify the entire abstraction layers, does it make any sense? Nobody would develop anything, because they would spend their entire life learning about all layers of abstraction to verify that it is really what it is.

"Each level/layer is embodied, but not determined, by the level beneath it, making it a language of description that is somewhat self-contained."


Just like someone saying "press this button or use this key to start the car engine", the car engine runs, but you don't know how or why, it has been abstracted in a way that you know an engine works by putting some kind of fuel into it and then you press or switch a key and it starts running

But someone had to figure out the low level stuff, and just in the same way, if we only care to learn the high level top down view, we will never be able to modify or fix the engine, we just know how to use it. Someone else knows the inner/lower details and they keep figuring how to change it or improve it

Abstractions only work because someone else knows inner workings, you can't abstract something to explain to others if you don't understand the concepts behind the abstraction

At this point, we hear a lot of talk about raising frequencies and vibrations, but no one could explain how it really works beyond more levels of abstraction, until they run out of answers very soon, if the answer to how something that has been abstracted is another abstraction, then there is no real answer

Have you ever played the game of "Why?", it's very simple, kind of goes like this

- Why do planes flight?
- Because they have wings and engine
- Why?
- Because the wings have a certain form that allow for lift of the plane's body
- Why?
- Because engineers figured out what form was needed to support the heavy body
- Why?
- Because they experimented and found the math behind it
- Why?
- Because they needed/wanted to make something fly
- Why?

And so on until you get to the very basics

However if it goes like this

- Why do planes flight?
- Because the engine pushes the plane into the air
- Why?
- Because someone knows how to make it
- Why?
- Because that's their job
- Why?
- Because someone hired them
- Why?
- Because someone wants to sell planes and we need them to travel

You never ever get to the real answers


Because the question is wrong in the first place, why ask why when one can get answers via experimentation? The answer is there, like I put above with the layers of abstraction in computers, anyone determined to do it will get the answer, but it can take a lot of time and dedication, perhaps a lifetime.


And just like i was saying before, if people focus on those aspects, like "raise your vibration" and they don't really know "Why" or "How" they just repeat something they think will help them become better and such, but they don't really know if that's true or the reasoning behind it


Again, they will get answers through experimentation and not asking why or how.


We need to have at least some basic knowledge about the how and why, before we abstract something, otherwise we just lead a life that constantly moves away from the truth and into other aspects like considering some things sacred and impossible to understand, but sacred still, and immutable as a final truth


well, people get there sometimes for being lazy or tired or whatever reason, I can tell for myself only, if I want to get to bottom of something and fully understand it, then I will do my homework instead of asking question elsewhere, and do the homework means study, learn, experiment, and do it again until get results.. eventually give it up if nothing comes out... A group with a common goal is better to solve problems, sometimes alone is better, depends on each one and each issue you will be dealing with and sometimes it is not possible to know certain levels of abstraction at all.


If we did that, then we would still be riding horses and walking, because objects heavier than air cannot fly, no one knew why, but it was "knowledge" and abstracted in that single sentence basically, you don't need to know the inner details, you just need to know that "fact" because it's obvious.

History is full of similar cases, people tend to build abstractions to make it easy to understand things, but it doesn't mean the abstraction is built on top of something that is truth or correct. It's just that now we have bigger abstractions because everything is way more complex than back then

But that's the way the world is, take Intel Corp. as an example, programmers that work with Intel chipset instructions, only know that certain instructions will do this or that, how that instruction is executed inside the black box? It is a proprietary code I can't read, no one know if there is some nasty piece of code in there, that's why there is projects to build open hardware, open micro controllers, with open source code, then anyone can read, understand and experiment new things, since the instructions are hardware dependent it is a huge work to be done.

Sorry for the off-topic, I think computers is a good way to exemplify abstraction.

[Wind]

Basically this "reality" is a dream which we consider to be real and one day we will wake up to the ultimate reality.

Also our universe is holographic in it's basic nature.

[Zirconian]

Hi Wind,

Yes, I've read some (articles/books/summaries) such as; Bohm and his book, The Holographic Universe. Pibram, describing the brain is holographic and abstracting from a holographic domain outside time & space. Bell's mathematical work suggesting that subatomic particles are superluminally connected. Sheldrakes work on invisible organising fields, suggesting that there are blueprints for organizing form & behaviour, so that when one species learns new behaviour, the causative field for the species is changed and Sarfattati's multi dimensional connectedness. All suggesting that the universe is an inseparable whole, a web of interacting and interweaving potentials.

As found on this thread, describing this whole is difficult, we haven't the terms or language.

I have appreciated books and articles that explain (simply for me!) the aforementioned theories of connectedness so I have an understanding of healing & past lives, distance healing and also why I can focus and ask to feel the essence of individual things holographically, and I do.

For instance, I ask to feel the essence of a crystal and I can feel that crystal holographically in my hand with it's unique essence. I ask for different crystals, one at a time and I feel their different essences, one at a time.

Over a few years now, I have felt a flattening of some of these crystals,(holographically and physically), particularly quartz which now does not have any energy at all. This is possibly due to EMF's, maybe quartz is more susceptible. I feel the same with humans. The hack is suppressing more. This can be seen in daily events and in the human energy field.

I do not choose this suppression for myself and I'm sure others do not wish to be supressed. Haven't we had enough? How long are we supposed to learn this? Therefore, I choose to dissolve this suppression...... this hack. I choose through source fields for a more balanced world in the dream/illusion/holograph. While I'm here, I'd like a better dream.

[Mashika]

"Maybe, my word salad can be easily explained by this

"We can not sit still and contemplate, something we cannot see at all"

Thank you Sasha..you will not see it until you do sit still..that is the paradox. If your mind wants to constantly involve itself then it will stop you. No thinking whatsoever and no analysing. You are not contemplating but stilling the mind. If your mind wants in on the action and wants to understand things then that's not it and all you will find is yet more questions. Its not about engaging the mind but disengaging it. It is much more about engaging the heart.

Trisher

There is a danger in this aspect, which is that you will not move in any direction, this is how it ended up being "raising your frequencies is good" but no one really can explain why, see my "Why" game

Knowing things is not bad, if you sit still and contemplate, you are learning, not just there, there are things happening, it's just a different mechanism of learning in the end

You cannot exist without learning things at any moment, being still just allows you to "see" more, but that's the entire purpose of it, to open up and "listen and see"

So it's not a paradox in the end, let's say i have already seen some stuff that put me in a position where i now i'm contemplating and documenting some stuff, should i not?

Who came up with "raising your frequency is good for your soul" how was it found? Someone had to look for something and link one thing to the other, or they just imagined it and came up with something that people started following because it sounded cool and spiritual, even if there's no foundation to it?

Once you experience some stuff in life, you can 'see' it right there, then you start contemplating it and figure things out, it's impossible not to because that's the entire purpose of contemplating

If you start receiving input back from the events, nature and objects you are contemplating, and you reject them, then maybe there's no reason to contemplate at all. There's a reason some understanding comes to your mind when you contemplate something, throwing it away just takes you to the starting point when you started contemplating, rejecting all the progress you have made

This is the problem, things, nature, life, death, souls and true knowledge is not immutable, it has to change, it changes every single moment, we are in constant movement and growth, rejecting that you must learn new things and move forward i don't think is the way to go

Even for Zen, or Buddhism, there were lots of contemplation over the ages to reach a point where you have some knowledge accumulated, all that happened through contemplation. So i don't understand why thinking looking for questions is wrong, i'm proposing some things here i learned through contemplation of what "The Matrix" could be, just someone looking at the small details that later could be abstracted so other people can understand them better without having to understand the complexity behind it

If you think about this deeper, and if we are in the Matrix, all our experiences were designed to be this way, all we see/feel, how can you find out the ones that are true or false? Even good/spiritual feelings could be fake, because we are within, everything is controlled by the Matrix, ignoring that fact could lead into following directions in life that just keeps you running in circles and while thinking you are moving forward.

I understand that gathering an incredible amount of knowledge can be completely useless if this "knowledge" is fake, as in purposedly put in front of us by the Matrix so we spend our lives looking at it and miss everything else. There's no way to know that, unless you attempt to break through and "see the Matrix"

We don't know if we are in the Matrix, or if what we experience, or the teachings we have are really valid, it may sound correct and pure and spiritual, but it may have been designed that way so we don't feel the need to go look for something else, then it's another tool of control, because we are so immersed into this "reality" that it's the only thing that makes sense

I'm finding it very hard to express myself here, i think i'm not going to be able to really say what i could, i don't have the English skills for it. Something i thought was just to post it as best i could just so that these ideas won't just go away from my mind, and in case someone else could be thinking about this as well and figure out better explanations

See this for example, years ago i had an experience (among many others) where a friend and I saw a coin fall to the ground and when we were looking for it, it wasn't there at all, anywhere and we never found it. Around 8 years later or so, i had moved away and had completely forgotten about that day, then my friend called me to say that she was going out in the morning and when she closed the door and turned, the coin was there on the exact location where we had seen it fall back then

Where was the coin all this time? One thing i can propose is this, the coin fell out of sync with our frequency cycle, when we were "asleep" the coin was "awake" and so on, for years, until somehow it synchronized back with us, or at least my friend, then it was visible and reachable again, it had been there all along but in another phase.

This is just a theory, but as good as any other. Understanding this aspect of our reality is not bad, it came through contemplation of the event itself, i did not actively look for answers about it. When this happened, it just came to me as a thought, then i started thinking about it more, not actively looking for answers no one can give me, but letting this thought grow inside me and then the pieces started falling in place by themselves to form a theory

In the end, it's the same thing as you mentioned



No thinking whatsoever and no analysing. You are not contemplating but stilling the mind. If your mind wants in on the action and wants to understand things then that's not it and all you will find is yet more questions.

Someone figured that out by thinking and contemplating some events they could "see", and the way they got to see it was by thinking about it in the first place, or experiencing it themselves in a way that a thought was introduced that they later grew into this concept you are talking about "stillness to learn and grow".

But it all starts with the same basic event, even for The Buddha

[Mashika]

If we are in a simulation, completely wrapping our minds, creating slaves out of our souls, and every single thing we experience through touch, eyes, feelings and so on is fabricated by the Matrix to keep the illusion, then it follows that the Matrix is "source"

The real source must be outside the Matrix, and if it is, then it's more powerful so that it can't be controlled and still remains the true "source", but we need to step outside to reach it. Attempting to look at the existing knowledge as something sacred that must not be questioned or inspected, will only keep everything inside the Matrix, unable to escape it because we are enclosed in a predefined set of teachings that allows to you feel "free" while still remaining a slave

I tried explaining this to some people before, what i got was an attitude of rejection bordering on religious fundamentalism, so i don't even try anymore

[palehorse]

..

Thank you Pale horse and all others who have tried to post that impossible to describe with words "space". Words are pointers only. It has been said in many ways here. A still mind. No words. No analysing. No thoughts. Being. Meditative space. No thinking. Open heart. Resonance. Connection to all that is. I could go on but won't.

If you analyse the words that are pointing in the direction of how to be still and not to think and try to understand them then you have completely missed the point. It is in the doing of it. Being still, not thinking. It is in doing it that you discover that feeling, that connection. If your thinking mind will not let you sit still and wants to know the whys and the wherefores then that's where techniques to still it come in. Its impossible for your mind to come in and achieve stillness. There absolutely are no words to describe that "space" that is achieved through that connection to all that is even though I am using words.

To analyse and interpret is to get further away from Source, All that is etc and more embedded in the matrix. Thinking blocks because it is the egoic mind that tries to grab on to and control "No mind". It will not let go easily. Stilling the thinking, meditating etc is the doorway out. It is ancient and nothing new at all. Many many words have been used endlessly to describe the impossible to describe. Just choose that which suits you. None of it matters except the Doing and Being of it.
Once in that space the analytical mind is left behind but in its place you will find something far more than you thought possible. Your own truth/source will emerge. An intelligence will flow and deep understanding will continue to ripen and flourish. You will not be searching but finding.

Trisher

that's it, it is doing it that we discover. I referred as "experimentation" in my last post, but it is the same meaning, when in contemplation or meditative state we do not ask questions like why or how, would not make any sense and all the effort could just collapse.

I agree with what you wrote here, we have to do more instead of ask questions. Just yesterday I went to watch the sunset, but there was no sunset the weather changed pretty fast, it was a storm forming and coming from the ocean, I contemplate that moment without any question and it was an amazing moment despite of being a storm.


Thanks for the input.

[EFO]

However you still working under a framework based on human qualities, what makes something good and what makes something bad? Human perception of those things

In the general nature of the universe and creation, human perception or right or assumptions about how things must be, or what means to be negative or positive, is meaningless

Example: A plane may crash if you don't take care of the engines correctly, or to make sure that if a rock goes inside it won't explode

Some people: If we keep the tracks clean it won't happen
Other people: Let's add a second input just for take off so that the main engine is closed while taking off, it will save the pilots life's in the extreme case

Positive: "Yes, but It probably won't happen, we're good"
Negative : "Yes but it doesn't matter, let's do it anyway"

If we all work inside the accepted framework which our human bodies allow to perceive, we are lost

Going to sleep now <3

Thanks for your answer, i wish i had more time to talk about this, but i think we went way off topic now :) Mostly because of me, i'm sorry

Spasibo

Ne nada :)

Sorry for my late reply.

You are right that I’m working under a framework,but this framework is the base for what is now under development leading to a better,at least,energetically improved field and for changing human perception.

And no we did went off topic,we barely scratched the surface and IT IS a lot to talk.:)

I'm not consider myself good or bad and I'm working hard on me to stay in neutrality field than the balance point.




Sasha Alisa
How to identify if we are on the Matrix?
My perception about identifing the Matrix or to be in is the word itself which encompased ALL and not only us we are in a matrix:everything seen and unseen is in a larger matrix up to the edge of Universe and that’s why we ALL live in,more or less,polarized “world”.


Trisher
Being still, not thinking.
That’s the moment when “things” happen.

Zirconian
Where source solutions are used in confidence to anything that might appear to disturb this harmony.
Indeed a disturbance in this harmony is occuring,but if continuing using source solution/s,what was previous abormal,will be gone and a new and better harmony will raise.
Well,exactly that transition,form one form of harmony to an other form of harmony,is making people afraid because they are not teach about what will follow.
This is exactly what I’m doing in my area.
All started with adjacent and direct events related to the future subject (me),then “informations” came,then I start building the “tools” (are very simple and efective tools),then I add my intention/s to them,then,based on previous oservations,I see improvements in different areas,then I simply let the “energy” doing what is supposed to do.And it works as I replyed to Mashika in a previous post on this thread.

It’s not a secret as is not hard at all to do and I’m gladly assist everyone how want to have a better,at least environment,if not a planet.

Zirconian
The EMF's from weather technology are flattening this outshining from time to time but Gaia for the first time, in a long time seems to continue to shine during this flattening.
The “developments in EMF's from weather technology,despite old “cloud seeding” and “fighting climate change”,now brought atmosphere cooling and sun light covering as I remarked in the last 2 years,but Gaia now better and fight in its own way with atmosphere cooling in form that during winters the soil is so warm that is partially melting the snow,but is forming a layer of ice over night.The next day is snowing again and part of previous formed ice is melting together with the new layer of snow dorming over night a layer of ice and melted snow.This fighting of Gaia lasted for about a month until snowing stopped.

What am I doing with my tools is to energetically improve EVERY chemical, mineral materials in my area and also there are results,not high,but visible enough to understand that Gaia is responding.


Zirconian
As found on this thread, describing this whole is difficult, we haven't the terms or language.
Indeed is difficult to describe the whole,not only we don’t have the terms or language,but because we have different experiences,different and incomplete knowledge and most of all everything is compartmentalized instead being all related.

We talked here about frequencies,vibrations,nature,confidence,harmony,balance,neutrality, language,scenarios,meditation,holograms,crystals,synesthesia and even computers and other interesting stuff to figure it out the whole.
Why we don’t take all these and others and put them in one single place and figure it out what is common to all of these and from there to have a starting point.

[Mashika]

However you still working under a framework based on human qualities, what makes something good and what makes something bad? Human perception of those things

In the general nature of the universe and creation, human perception or right or assumptions about how things must be, or what means to be negative or positive, is meaningless

Example: A plane may crash if you don't take care of the engines correctly, or to make sure that if a rock goes inside it won't explode

Some people: If we keep the tracks clean it won't happen
Other people: Let's add a second input just for take off so that the main engine is closed while taking off, it will save the pilots life's in the extreme case

Positive: "Yes, but It probably won't happen, we're good"
Negative : "Yes but it doesn't matter, let's do it anyway"

If we all work inside the accepted framework which our human bodies allow to perceive, we are lost

Going to sleep now <3

Thanks for your answer, i wish i had more time to talk about this, but i think we went way off topic now :) Mostly because of me, i'm sorry

Spasibo

Ne nada :)

Sorry for my late reply.

You are right that I’m working under a framework,but this framework is the base for what is now under development leading to a better,at least,energetically improved field and for changing human perception.

And no we did went off topic,we barely scratched the surface and IT IS a lot to talk.:)

I'm not consider myself good or bad and I'm working hard on me to stay in neutrality field than the balance point.




Sasha Alisa
How to identify if we are on the Matrix?
My perception about identifing the Matrix or to be in is the word itself which encompased ALL and not only us we are in a matrix:everything seen and unseen is in a larger matrix up to the edge of Universe and that’s why we ALL live in,more or less,polarized “world”.


Trisher
Being still, not thinking.
That’s the moment when “things” happen.

Zirconian
Where source solutions are used in confidence to anything that might appear to disturb this harmony.
Indeed a disturbance in this harmony is occuring,but if continuing using source solution/s,what was previous abormal,will be gone and a new and better harmony will raise.
Well,exactly that transition,form one form of harmony to an other form of harmony,is making people afraid because they are not teach about what will follow.
This is exactly what I’m doing in my area.
All started with adjacent and direct events related to the future subject (me),then “informations” came,then I start building the “tools” (are very simple and efective tools),then I add my intention/s to them,then,based on previous oservations,I see improvements in different areas,then I simply let the “energy” doing what is supposed to do.And it works as I replyed to Mashika in a previous post on this thread.

It’s not a secret as is not hard at all to do and I’m gladly assist everyone how want to have a better,at least environment,if not a planet.

Zirconian
The EMF's from weather technology are flattening this outshining from time to time but Gaia for the first time, in a long time seems to continue to shine during this flattening.
The “developments in EMF's from weather technology,despite old “cloud seeding” and “fighting climate change”,now brought atmosphere cooling and sun light covering as I remarked in the last 2 years,but Gaia now better and fight in its own way with atmosphere cooling in form that during winters the soil is so warm that is partially melting the snow,but is forming a layer of ice over night.The next day is snowing again and part of previous formed ice is melting together with the new layer of snow dorming over night a layer of ice and melted snow.This fighting of Gaia lasted for about a month until snowing stopped.

What am I doing with my tools is to energetically improve EVERY chemical, mineral materials in my area and also there are results,not high,but visible enough to understand that Gaia is responding.


Zirconian
As found on this thread, describing this whole is difficult, we haven't the terms or language.
Indeed is difficult to describe the whole,not only we don’t have the terms or language,but because we have different experiences,different and incomplete knowledge and most of all everything is compartmentalized instead being all related.

We talked here about frequencies,vibrations,nature,confidence,harmony,balance,neutrality, language,scenarios,meditation,holograms,crystals,synesthesia and even computers and other interesting stuff to figure it out the whole.
Why we don’t take all these and others and put them in one single place and figure it out what is common to all of these and from there to have a starting point.

I found it very hard to get through on this thread, i don't think i'm adding much really, it's like being out of sync with each other at some point, or (different frequencies LOL)



You are right that I’m working under a framework,but this framework is the base for what is now under development leading to a better,at least,energetically improved field and for changing human perception.

See my post above where i said that if the Matrix is creating all we see/feel/experience, then we are not really growing at all, or going ways


We can create new things based on the stuff someone else previously documented and taught to other humans, but if all of this falls into a predefined set of knowledge which is limited to allow you to "grow" inside it through your life span, but not to go out of it, then we are still slaves in the end

"If you follow the rules of your enclosure, you will always have a peaceful life"

You could live in a giant amazing garden, full of nice stuff that is big enough for you to explore and build and such, but it's still your enclosure and it has rules you must follow, how would you know, if you accept these rules and treat them as sacred and don't dare question?

Some people dare question, not just follow what seems to be the truth, because instinct is an animal property, but not a soul property, or is it?

I think we reached a point where we are discussing a lot of stuff but not the Matrix and how to escape it, we ended up discussing what practices make for the best spiritual experience inside the Matrix, according to the rules we were handed by it (whatever it is)



Ne nada :)


да нет

Xi xi xi :heart: :P

[Trisher]

I have appreciated books and articles that explain (simply for me!) the aforementioned theories of connectedness so I have an understanding of healing & past lives, distance healing and also why I can focus and ask to feel the essence of individual things holographically, and I do.

For instance, I ask to feel the essence of a crystal and I can feel that crystal holographically in my hand with it's unique essence. I ask for different crystals, one at a time and I feel their different essences, one at a time.



I see this as basically an energetic manifestation of what you focus on you actually bring to you. I also use this technique for testing the energies of things and also to call in any homeopathic remedy that I might need. Once on the hand and tested for its effect I ask for it to be integrated into my body if it is for my highest good and also if it wants to. However I do it from a connection to source. If its not done from that space then anything can play games with me.

I have also found it possible to stand bare foot on the earth and then connect to source through the heart and request that all the vitamins and minerals I need for my well being and health right now are given to me. I always generate gratitude afterwards. I find that my body tingles in different places as the frequencies are given. Food is mostly information and a frequency.

It is going to be a roller-coaster when we learn all the new ways of Being :heart:

Trisher

[EFO]

However you still working under a framework based on human qualities, what makes something good and what makes something bad? Human perception of those things

In the general nature of the universe and creation, human perception or right or assumptions about how things must be, or what means to be negative or positive, is meaningless

Example: A plane may crash if you don't take care of the engines correctly, or to make sure that if a rock goes inside it won't explode

Some people: If we keep the tracks clean it won't happen
Other people: Let's add a second input just for take off so that the main engine is closed while taking off, it will save the pilots life's in the extreme case

Positive: "Yes, but It probably won't happen, we're good"
Negative : "Yes but it doesn't matter, let's do it anyway"

If we all work inside the accepted framework which our human bodies allow to perceive, we are lost

Going to sleep now <3

Thanks for your answer, i wish i had more time to talk about this, but i think we went way off topic now :) Mostly because of me, i'm sorry

Spasibo

Ne nada :)

Sorry for my late reply.

You are right that I’m working under a framework,but this framework is the base for what is now under development leading to a better,at least,energetically improved field and for changing human perception.

And no we did went off topic,we barely scratched the surface and IT IS a lot to talk.:)

I'm not consider myself good or bad and I'm working hard on me to stay in neutrality field than the balance point.




Sasha Alisa
How to identify if we are on the Matrix?
My perception about identifing the Matrix or to be in is the word itself which encompased ALL and not only us we are in a matrix:everything seen and unseen is in a larger matrix up to the edge of Universe and that’s why we ALL live in,more or less,polarized “world”.


Trisher
Being still, not thinking.
That’s the moment when “things” happen.

Zirconian
Where source solutions are used in confidence to anything that might appear to disturb this harmony.
Indeed a disturbance in this harmony is occuring,but if continuing using source solution/s,what was previous abormal,will be gone and a new and better harmony will raise.
Well,exactly that transition,form one form of harmony to an other form of harmony,is making people afraid because they are not teach about what will follow.
This is exactly what I’m doing in my area.
All started with adjacent and direct events related to the future subject (me),then “informations” came,then I start building the “tools” (are very simple and efective tools),then I add my intention/s to them,then,based on previous oservations,I see improvements in different areas,then I simply let the “energy” doing what is supposed to do.And it works as I replyed to Mashika in a previous post on this thread.

It’s not a secret as is not hard at all to do and I’m gladly assist everyone how want to have a better,at least environment,if not a planet.

Zirconian
The EMF's from weather technology are flattening this outshining from time to time but Gaia for the first time, in a long time seems to continue to shine during this flattening.
The “developments in EMF's from weather technology,despite old “cloud seeding” and “fighting climate change”,now brought atmosphere cooling and sun light covering as I remarked in the last 2 years,but Gaia now better and fight in its own way with atmosphere cooling in form that during winters the soil is so warm that is partially melting the snow,but is forming a layer of ice over night.The next day is snowing again and part of previous formed ice is melting together with the new layer of snow dorming over night a layer of ice and melted snow.This fighting of Gaia lasted for about a month until snowing stopped.

What am I doing with my tools is to energetically improve EVERY chemical, mineral materials in my area and also there are results,not high,but visible enough to understand that Gaia is responding.


Zirconian
As found on this thread, describing this whole is difficult, we haven't the terms or language.
Indeed is difficult to describe the whole,not only we don’t have the terms or language,but because we have different experiences,different and incomplete knowledge and most of all everything is compartmentalized instead being all related.

We talked here about frequencies,vibrations,nature,confidence,harmony,balance,neutrality, language,scenarios,meditation,holograms,crystals,synesthesia and even computers and other interesting stuff to figure it out the whole.
Why we don’t take all these and others and put them in one single place and figure it out what is common to all of these and from there to have a starting point.

I found it very hard to get through on this thread, i don't think i'm adding much really, it's like being out of sync with each other at some point, or (different frequencies LOL)



You are right that I’m working under a framework,but this framework is the base for what is now under development leading to a better,at least,energetically improved field and for changing human perception.

See my post above where i said that if the Matrix is creating all we see/feel/experience, then we are not really growing at all, or going ways


We can create new things based on the stuff someone else previously documented and taught to other humans, but if all of this falls into a predefined set of knowledge which is limited to allow you to "grow" inside it through your life span, but not to go out of it, then we are still slaves in the end

"If you follow the rules of your enclosure, you will always have a peaceful life"

You could live in a giant amazing garden, full of nice stuff that is big enough for you to explore and build and such, but it's still your enclosure and it has rules you must follow, how would you know, if you accept these rules and treat them as sacred and don't dare question?

Some people dare question, not just follow what seems to be the truth, because instinct is an animal property, but not a soul property, or is it?

I think we reached a point where we are discussing a lot of stuff but not the Matrix and how to escape it, we ended up discussing what practices make for the best spiritual experience inside the Matrix, according to the rules we were handed by it (whatever it is)



Ne nada :)


да нет

Xi xi xi :heart: :P

You just created a "matrix" for me :) and I will "live" there creating my on "protective bubble" without interfering with the rules,but acting like a virus in a computer,blocking some of the functions and from time to time I'm "acting" like a keylogger "anticipating" its moves as it typing for its future actions.:) This is not a war or a conflict,but only a symbiotic way of living together without disturbing each other to much.:) This is my way of everyday living.

From that created bubble I can easily access other realms,like the border of our polarized visible and/or invisible UNIVERSE no matter which low or high D is,staying in "no man's land" and seeing the neutrality field.I do have some knowledge what is in that field,but I "wasn't" there.As a general idea,NOTHING known from here isn't applicable "there".

So there is a way to escape from general matrix not only from the Earth one.The question is:is anyone of us prepared for that?My answer is:some of us,yes.A step forward is OBE.What if someone with OBE abilities could made a possible trip to the border of our Universe and confirm or not that what I stated above?

Replying to your question,I don't think that soul have anything to do with instinct,even if we can consider that some instincts could be experiences from past lives brought together with the soul in this life...but even so,still I don't think so.

What would be your personal approach,based on your personal experience, regarding a solution of getting out of whatever matrix we are in?Of course if is not to personal...and in any of the cases I thank you for that.

[palehorse]

I found this text very interesting


"If technology and society reach a point such that simulations are possible, we can’t think our universe isn’t a simulation because such things are impossible. In addition, if we do develop simulated universes, such simulations will be plentiful (just like modern computer games). In fact, the inhabitants of the simulated universes we create would likely (eventually) create their own simulated universes. So the fact that we created a simulated universe is no reason to think that our universe is non-simulated; we might have created a simulation in our own simulation. And since, by doing so, we would have shown that the creation of simulated universes is possible, we would have shown that they were created and are plentiful in the physical (nonsimulated) universe (either by being created in our universe, or in the physical universe in which our universe is running as a simulation). And in a multiverse where there are a million simulated universes but only one real one, given the fact that the inhabitants of a simulated universe can’t
tell that it is simulated, one should conclude that one’s own universe is simulated. In short, by creating a simulated universe, we will have established that there are likely millions of simulated universes, and only one real one. Given that we can’t tell if our universe is simulated, we will be forced to conclude that it most likely is. It would be a million to one chance that it is not. By creating a simulated universe, we will have proven that it is most likely that we inhabit one. Of course, all societies may destroy themselves before becoming that advanced, or they may be opposed to such simulations for moral reasons, but they are equally likely to develop them. Thus, Bostrom concludes, given what we know, the hypothesis that our universe is a computer simulation is about 20% likely. There are about five basic ways our society could develop, each is equally likely given what we know, and one of them leads to us creating simulated universes and thus realizing that we are nearly guaranteed to be in one." - David Kyle Johnson

Also Nick Bostrom wrote a paper in 2001 about Simulation Hypothesis, good stuff. I have the paper here if anyone are interested.

[Harmony]

This is all so interesting, and really important to delve into. I can see everybodies point is all apart of the whole. I also think everything we can see is part of the matrix. I haven't had time to post properly today and will write more soon ☺.

[Trisher]

If we are in a simulation, completely wrapping our minds, creating slaves out of our souls, and every single thing we experience through touch, eyes, feelings and so on is fabricated by the Matrix to keep the illusion, then it follows that the Matrix is "source"

The real source must be outside the Matrix, and if it is, then it's more powerful so that it can't be controlled and still remains the true "source", but we need to step outside to reach it. Attempting to look at the existing knowledge as something sacred that must not be questioned or inspected, will only keep everything inside the Matrix, unable to escape it because we are enclosed in a predefined set of teachings that allows to you feel "free" while still remaining a slave

I tried explaining this to some people before, what i got was an attitude of rejection bordering on religious fundamentalism, so i don't even try anymore

My personal experience of Source is bliss, joy, peace, connection, seeing massive light inside the head like a bright sunny day - but it is night-time, huge heart expansion and a complete merge with all that is in a beautiful profound way. I have also had shared experiences in this state when meditating with others. In my experience it is a space where all are one and merged and it is a feeling beyond words.

That is not what I call Matrix and if it is then that is impressive :o
Trisher

[Mashika]

However you still working under a framework based on human qualities, what makes something good and what makes something bad? Human perception of those things

In the general nature of the universe and creation, human perception or right or assumptions about how things must be, or what means to be negative or positive, is meaningless

Example: A plane may crash if you don't take care of the engines correctly, or to make sure that if a rock goes inside it won't explode

Some people: If we keep the tracks clean it won't happen
Other people: Let's add a second input just for take off so that the main engine is closed while taking off, it will save the pilots life's in the extreme case

Positive: "Yes, but It probably won't happen, we're good"
Negative : "Yes but it doesn't matter, let's do it anyway"

If we all work inside the accepted framework which our human bodies allow to perceive, we are lost

Going to sleep now <3

Thanks for your answer, i wish i had more time to talk about this, but i think we went way off topic now :) Mostly because of me, i'm sorry

Spasibo

Ne nada :)

Sorry for my late reply.

You are right that I’m working under a framework,but this framework is the base for what is now under development leading to a better,at least,energetically improved field and for changing human perception.

And no we did went off topic,we barely scratched the surface and IT IS a lot to talk.:)

I'm not consider myself good or bad and I'm working hard on me to stay in neutrality field than the balance point.




Sasha Alisa
How to identify if we are on the Matrix?
My perception about identifing the Matrix or to be in is the word itself which encompased ALL and not only us we are in a matrix:everything seen and unseen is in a larger matrix up to the edge of Universe and that’s why we ALL live in,more or less,polarized “world”.


Trisher
Being still, not thinking.
That’s the moment when “things” happen.

Zirconian
Where source solutions are used in confidence to anything that might appear to disturb this harmony.
Indeed a disturbance in this harmony is occuring,but if continuing using source solution/s,what was previous abormal,will be gone and a new and better harmony will raise.
Well,exactly that transition,form one form of harmony to an other form of harmony,is making people afraid because they are not teach about what will follow.
This is exactly what I’m doing in my area.
All started with adjacent and direct events related to the future subject (me),then “informations” came,then I start building the “tools” (are very simple and efective tools),then I add my intention/s to them,then,based on previous oservations,I see improvements in different areas,then I simply let the “energy” doing what is supposed to do.And it works as I replyed to Mashika in a previous post on this thread.

It’s not a secret as is not hard at all to do and I’m gladly assist everyone how want to have a better,at least environment,if not a planet.

Zirconian
The EMF's from weather technology are flattening this outshining from time to time but Gaia for the first time, in a long time seems to continue to shine during this flattening.
The “developments in EMF's from weather technology,despite old “cloud seeding” and “fighting climate change”,now brought atmosphere cooling and sun light covering as I remarked in the last 2 years,but Gaia now better and fight in its own way with atmosphere cooling in form that during winters the soil is so warm that is partially melting the snow,but is forming a layer of ice over night.The next day is snowing again and part of previous formed ice is melting together with the new layer of snow dorming over night a layer of ice and melted snow.This fighting of Gaia lasted for about a month until snowing stopped.

What am I doing with my tools is to energetically improve EVERY chemical, mineral materials in my area and also there are results,not high,but visible enough to understand that Gaia is responding.


Zirconian
As found on this thread, describing this whole is difficult, we haven't the terms or language.
Indeed is difficult to describe the whole,not only we don’t have the terms or language,but because we have different experiences,different and incomplete knowledge and most of all everything is compartmentalized instead being all related.

We talked here about frequencies,vibrations,nature,confidence,harmony,balance,neutrality, language,scenarios,meditation,holograms,crystals,synesthesia and even computers and other interesting stuff to figure it out the whole.
Why we don’t take all these and others and put them in one single place and figure it out what is common to all of these and from there to have a starting point.



We talked here about frequencies,vibrations,nature,confidence,harmony,b alance,neutrality, language,scenarios,meditation,holograms,crystals,s ynesthesia and even computers and other interesting stuff to figure it out the whole.
Why we don’t take all these and others and put them in one single place and figure it out what is common to all of these and from there to have a starting point.

Truly, i have not tried to fit all together like that ever, life stuff always gets in the way long and short term, so that it because impossible to dedicate enough time to such complicated stuff

Also it's very difficult, almost impossible to find people who want to do that, because most, when facing danger in their beliefs or going into the dark spots to find and create light in there, immediately reject it out of fear

I don't know how to do that, because to start i would be told to sit and shut up, or get whacked as i experienced before some time ago, when i brought some of this stuff up as a kid/teen, some 10 or so years ago

There's only a limited amount of whacks in the head allotted to someone in their life, and i think i spent most of mine before i turned 14. So i must be careful to not go over that limit, as i only have a very small amount of whacks remaining before i go beyond and then that's uncharted territory :P

[Mashika]

If we are in a simulation, completely wrapping our minds, creating slaves out of our souls, and every single thing we experience through touch, eyes, feelings and so on is fabricated by the Matrix to keep the illusion, then it follows that the Matrix is "source"

The real source must be outside the Matrix, and if it is, then it's more powerful so that it can't be controlled and still remains the true "source", but we need to step outside to reach it. Attempting to look at the existing knowledge as something sacred that must not be questioned or inspected, will only keep everything inside the Matrix, unable to escape it because we are enclosed in a predefined set of teachings that allows to you feel "free" while still remaining a slave

I tried explaining this to some people before, what i got was an attitude of rejection bordering on religious fundamentalism, so i don't even try anymore

My personal experience of Source is bliss, joy, peace, connection, seeing massive light inside the head like a bright sunny day - but it is night-time, huge heart expansion and a complete merge with all that is in a beautiful profound way. I have also had shared experiences in this state when meditating with others. In my experience it is a space where all are one and merged and it is a feeling beyond words.

That is not what I call Matrix and if it is then that is impressive :o
Trisher

I had a personal experience that says this is very much true, but it doesn't really negate all the other stuff i feel/think/found over the years, but let me share please :)

When i was sent away from home, and into the Americas continent and to the US, i felt a terrible miserable feeling, i was alone, with people i did not know, living things i did not want to live

So one day after school, i got back and went into my room, closed the door, the shades and made myself into a completely black room, went to the bed and started crying in silence. I just wanted to see my grand father so much, to feel that security and love he gave just by being there

And when i felt so bad that my heart was hurting bad and i could not take it anymore, my eyes closed as i was falling asleep, then a tremendous golden light came on in front of me, i opened my eyes thinking someone had opened the door but no, it was some kind of tremendous powerful light floating around, like when water moves and you can see reflections on it, but all golden like, then this magnificent pure feeling of joy came through and hit me directly, and all my pain was taken away in an instant, the light got closer and i could sense it, it was warm and beautiful and there was this kind of sounds all over, like music from very far away, the light then moved around me for a bit and then it kind of faded away

I did not feel sad or empty or anything else anymore, it took all my pain away. I got up and went to eat something then went back to bed and slept for a full day, i was not angry or sad anymore, or feeling the extreme pain i had the day before. That's basically it, i never wondered much into it, it was so natural that i did not wonder at all beyond realizing it happened and trying not to forget those feelings

If there's a Matrix, that moment came from 'outside', that's all i can say about it, because an artificial thing, would not ever be capable of what i experienced. I have never seen or felt that again.

Just what wanted to say back there is that, if the Matrix is real, it is possibly impersonating "source" and it can be a very good version of it, capable of incredible things, but never the real thing. The Matrix would be the creator of the fake world we live in, completely immersed in it, so for our limited view, it could seem all real and such. How do we know the real one from the fake?

Following the rules of the fake one ensures we will never know what the real one is like, until we die, possibly not even then if the entire purpose of keeping us inside is to prevent us from reaching the real one even after death

I'm just saying that we don't know anything for sure, it can go so many levels up that we could be lost in what looks real while it isn't. This thread asked "Are we in the Matrix, if so how do we get out of it" so we need to start by questioning the world we experience at this point, in order to attempt and figure out "Are we in the Matrix?", then we would need to look into how to escape it, if the previous question was a positive

[EFO]

Truly, i have not tried to fit all together like that ever, life stuff always gets in the way long and short term, so that it because impossible to dedicate enough time to such complicated stuff

Also it's very difficult, almost impossible to find people who want to do that, because most, when facing danger in their beliefs or going into the dark spots to find and create light in there, immediately reject it out of fear

I don't know how to do that, because to start i would be told to sit and shut up, or get whacked as i experienced before some time ago, when i brought some of this stuff up as a kid/teen, some 10 or so years ago

There's only a limited amount of whacks in the head allotted to someone in their life, and i think i spent most of mine before i turned 14. So i must be careful to not go over that limit, as i only have a very small amount of whacks remaining before i go beyond and then that's uncharted territory :P

What if I told you that without being whacked,but on contrary being admired for what you do and without being rushed,you can do this in a simple way having a previous experience,but an unfinished one?
To my previous list

frequencies,vibrations,nature,confidence,harmony,balance,neutrality,language,scenarios,meditation,ho lograms,crystals, synesthesia and even computers
I will add:
sacred geometry (a different one that we all knew it),nature (not biology),our own philosophy (that one which every one of us is feeling),water,at least three energy fields (other than + an/or -,Chi,Qi,Mana,Prana) and could be other that I'm not aware for the moment and tell me what all these have in common (take your time...it's not necessary to give an immediate answer;when you will found it come back to this thread)?All of these are so interrelated and so misunderstood (or wished to be misunderstood) that the scientist over time split them in domains and some of them even forgotten and rediscovered.

At a first look it looks hard,but imagine that you have a tangled spool in your desk and you have to untangle it.The most common thing to do is to find one end of it and start from there.It's not an easy task,but with patience,curiosity and imagination you will succeed and this can be done any time when you have some spare time.:)

If your really,really,really want to do this,I can help you to find interesting information and common points.

On the other hand,despite your very interesting experience,also have interesting information and more than that you are faster than me.:rofl:

And one more thing,it is possible to find a different common point to that list,which is better because we'll have two starting points instead f a single one.

Now,can you face the "danger" and "turn on the light"?

[Trisher]

If we are in a simulation, completely wrapping our minds, creating slaves out of our souls, and every single thing we experience through touch, eyes, feelings and so on is fabricated by the Matrix to keep the illusion, then it follows that the Matrix is "source"

The real source must be outside the Matrix, and if it is, then it's more powerful so that it can't be controlled and still remains the true "source", but we need to step outside to reach it. Attempting to look at the existing knowledge as something sacred that must not be questioned or inspected, will only keep everything inside the Matrix, unable to escape it because we are enclosed in a predefined set of teachings that allows to you feel "free" while still remaining a slave

I tried explaining this to some people before, what i got was an attitude of rejection bordering on religious fundamentalism, so i don't even try anymore

My personal experience of Source is bliss, joy, peace, connection, seeing massive light inside the head like a bright sunny day - but it is night-time, huge heart expansion and a complete merge with all that is in a beautiful profound way. I have also had shared experiences in this state when meditating with others. In my experience it is a space where all are one and merged and it is a feeling beyond words.

That is not what I call Matrix and if it is then that is impressive :o
Trisher

I had a personal experience that says this is very much true, but it doesn't really negate all the other stuff i feel/think/found over the years, but let me share please :)

When i was sent away from home, and into the Americas continent and to the US, i felt a terrible miserable feeling, i was alone, with people i did not know, living things i did not want to live

So one day after school, i got back and went into my room, closed the door, the shades and made myself into a completely black room, went to the bed and started crying in silence. I just wanted to see my grand father so much, to feel that security and love he gave just by being there

And when i felt so bad that my heart was hurting bad and i could not take it anymore, my eyes closed as i was falling asleep, then a tremendous golden light came on in front of me, i opened my eyes thinking someone had opened the door but no, it was some kind of tremendous powerful light floating around, like when water moves and you can see reflections on it, but all golden like, then this magnificent pure feeling of joy came through and hit me directly, and all my pain was taken away in an instant, the light got closer and i could sense it, it was warm and beautiful and there was this kind of sounds all over, like music from very far away, the light then moved around me for a bit and then it kind of faded away

I did not feel sad or empty or anything else anymore, it took all my pain away. I got up and went to eat something then went back to bed and slept for a full day, i was not angry or sad anymore, or feeling the extreme pain i had the day before. That's basically it, i never wondered much into it, it was so natural that i did not wonder at all beyond realizing it happened and trying not to forget those feelings

If there's a Matrix, that moment came from 'outside', that's all i can say about it, because an artificial thing, would not ever be capable of what i experienced. I have never seen or felt that again.

Just what wanted to say back there is that, if the Matrix is real, it is possibly impersonating "source" and it can be a very good version of it, capable of incredible things, but never the real thing. The Matrix would be the creator of the fake world we live in, completely immersed in it, so for our limited view, it could seem all real and such. How do we know the real one from the fake?

Following the rules of the fake one ensures we will never know what the real one is like, until we die, possibly not even then if the entire purpose of keeping us inside is to prevent us from reaching the real one even after death

I'm just saying that we don't know anything for sure, it can go so many levels up that we could be lost in what looks real while it isn't. This thread asked "Are we in the Matrix, if so how do we get out of it" so we need to start by questioning the world we experience at this point, in order to attempt and figure out "Are we in the Matrix?", then we would need to look into how to escape it, if the previous question was a positive

I believe you have already answered your own question about how you know if its matrix or not.

" If there's a Matrix, that moment came from 'outside', that's all i can say about it, because an artificial thing, would not ever be capable of what i experienced. I have never seen or felt that again. "

Through experiencing it. No other way.

Trisher

[EFO]

I had a personal experience that says this is very much true, but it doesn't really negate all the other stuff i feel/think/found over the years, but let me share please :)

When i was sent away from home, and into the Americas continent and to the US, i felt a terrible miserable feeling, i was alone, with people i did not know, living things i did not want to live

So one day after school, i got back and went into my room, closed the door, the shades and made myself into a completely black room, went to the bed and started crying in silence. I just wanted to see my grand father so much, to feel that security and love he gave just by being there

And when i felt so bad that my heart was hurting bad and i could not take it anymore, my eyes closed as i was falling asleep, then a tremendous golden light came on in front of me, i opened my eyes thinking someone had opened the door but no, it was some kind of tremendous powerful light floating around, like when water moves and you can see reflections on it, but all golden like, then this magnificent pure feeling of joy came through and hit me directly, and all my pain was taken away in an instant, the light got closer and i could sense it, it was warm and beautiful and there was this kind of sounds all over, like music from very far away, the light then moved around me for a bit and then it kind of faded away

I did not feel sad or empty or anything else anymore, it took all my pain away. I got up and went to eat something then went back to bed and slept for a full day, i was not angry or sad anymore, or feeling the extreme pain i had the day before. That's basically it, i never wondered much into it, it was so natural that i did not wonder at all beyond realizing it happened and trying not to forget those feelings

If there's a Matrix, that moment came from 'outside', that's all i can say about it, because an artificial thing, would not ever be capable of what i experienced. I have never seen or felt that again.

Just what wanted to say back there is that, if the Matrix is real, it is possibly impersonating "source" and it can be a very good version of it, capable of incredible things, but never the real thing. The Matrix would be the creator of the fake world we live in, completely immersed in it, so for our limited view, it could seem all real and such. How do we know the real one from the fake?

Following the rules of the fake one ensures we will never know what the real one is like, until we die, possibly not even then if the entire purpose of keeping us inside is to prevent us from reaching the real one even after death

I'm just saying that we don't know anything for sure, it can go so many levels up that we could be lost in what looks real while it isn't. This thread asked "Are we in the Matrix, if so how do we get out of it" so we need to start by questioning the world we experience at this point, in order to attempt and figure out "Are we in the Matrix?", then we would need to look into how to escape it, if the previous question was a positive

Your story remember me of Victoria's almost the same sort of light and having the same behavior as your.I don't remember though were she posted that story.This was for you to know that you are not alone.

[aoibhghaire]

Zirconian

“Are we in a matrix? If so, what is it? “

For a lot of people they don’t realise they are in a MATRIX from their own level of World view, either participation of this consensus reality based on a collective consciousness/unconscious. For others are aware of this MATRIX and the controls, trials and tribulations that are inherent within it.

Part of our doing on another level was to agree to be part of this system in order to provide an education arena. However, we couldn’t have achieved the growth required , the tools within other dimensions may not have a space and time continuum.

The MATRIX or this reality that has been previously developed over time provides the opportunity for growth if we desire. It’s” our choice if we want to progress. This MATRIX we are in came about through gradual disconnection from other intelligences that were already there.

We therefore have arrived within another intelligence level i.e. MATRIX that has no alignment to other realities and dimensions in this universe except that this reality (MATRIX) and its dimensions within this MATRIX is still connected to other realities and there dimensions. One therefore has to understand what the MATRIX is with an understanding of the whole picture of the universe; its realities, dimensions, etc. if one truly wants to disconnect from the MATRIX. Life within this MATRIX has not provided the education as to what this MATRIX relationship is in the larger reality of the universe. This pivotal point occurs when a person who has been traveling on a familiar, well-defined life path makes a sudden voluntary or involuntary turn that untethers the individual from that path and propels him or her onto a new and often unrelated path that uproots the individual from his or her previous world.


Zirconian quotes
“If we are in a matrix, do we get out? If we want to get out, how do we do it?

“I'm sure we are in a matrix, a multidimensional hack, preventing Gaia and humans from experiencing and downloading incredible creative informational fields to create and find new potentials and solutions.”

“I do want to get out, though I see it as a matter of dissolving the matrix, an outshining from grounding in high vibrations for ourselves and Gaia.”

“We can start grounding in those high vibes by being kind to one another, the practice of detachment and mindfulness. Gratitude being a big one to increase those vibrations.”

In the larger universe and beyond, on its many levels and dimensions, there are a number of groups of consciousness that, although equal in importance, are quite different in expression and function. Together, they make up the full expression of the larger, total life picture. No one piece, no one expression, can be missing or the larger life picture on all its levels and dimensions will cease to exist.
One such consciousness has been universally termed "nature." Because of what we are saying about the larger picture not existing without all of its parts, you may assume that nature exists as both a reality and a consciousness on all dimensions and all levels. It cannot be excluded.

Each group of consciousness has an area of expertise. All groups are equal in importance but express and function differently from one another. These different expressions and functions are vital to the overall balance of reality. A truly symbiotic relationship exists among the groups and is based on balance — that is, universal balance. The human soul-oriented dynamic is evolution in scope and function. Nature is a massive, intelligent consciousness group that expresses and functions within the many areas of involution, that is, moving soul-oriented consciousness into any direction or level of form.

We consider reality to be in the form state when there is order, organization and life vitality [initiates action] combined with a state of consciousness. . . . We do not consider form to be only that which can be perceived by the five senses. In fact, we see form from this perspective to be extremely limited, both in its life reality and in its ability to function. We see form from the perspective of the five senses to be useful only for the most basic and fundamental level of identification. From this perspective, there is very little relationship to the full understanding and knowledge of how a unit or form system functions.
The forms within the MATRIX have developed a wide range of items of resistance for our true powerful nature as humans. Once you are aware and awake to these obstacles in your life they can be disrupted and superseded by the correct balance that is truly required for human beings to function on this planet. For example, the frequencies of 5G can be attenuated. Any artificial frequencies, even other humans and there unwanted frequencies, Military intents can be attenuated. The tools are there to act on.

The glitch to our human i/e balance is free will. We can make our free will jump right into the middle of i/e balance and use it to distort our intuitive understanding of the soul's definition, direction and purpose. What if we got a glimpse of this soul information and, for whatever reason, decided we didn't like it. We wanted a different life. Suppose we perceive that the life based on the information as we understood it would be too tough or too tedious. So we insert our will right into the middle of the i/e balance and we modify that evolution information according to our preference and desire. Now nature has two sets of definitions, directions and purposes to deal with. The operating devic blueprint will still reflect the soul's original definition, direction and purpose. However, we are now consciously operating with another set of definition, direction and purpose — the free will set. As we move through our daily lives, we override the soul information with our conscious desires and we find that things are not moving too smoothly through this body. This is because we are trying to move one set of evolutionary dynamics through a body that was designed for another set — the soul set. We are no longer operating within i/e balance and we will experience all kinds of health issues as a result.
The MATRIX with its creation creates the imbalance that is reflected in FORM on the Earth.

Zirconian

“If we want to get out, how do we do it?”

It is possible to “get out” of the MATRIX and there are tools that provide the dynamics that can create new realitie(s) if one wishes. The foundation for this approach needs to be understood first before any one can apply tools for this task. This post is only a brief one as the information required is so extensive in order to be able to achieve the act. If you have an attitude of escapism from the MATRIX then you haven’t understood the relationship that is required first that is within a larger realities of the universe. I’m only speaking here in the third person

[EFO]

For example, the frequencies of 5G can be attenuated. Any artificial frequencies, even other humans and there unwanted frequencies, Military intents can be attenuated. The tools are there to act on.

Zirconian

“If we want to get out, how do we do it?”

It is possible to “get out” of the MATRIX and there are tools that provide the dynamics that can create new realitie(s) if one wishes. The foundation for this approach needs to be understood first before any one can apply tools for this task. This post is only a brief one as the information required is so extensive in order to be able to achieve the act. If you have an attitude of escapism from the MATRIX then you haven’t understood the relationship that is required first that is within a larger realities of the universe. I’m only speaking here in the third person

Hi aoibhghaire,

With above quote you touch a sensitive part of me.I'm working with Slim Spurling's tensor ring and devices and even develop new "devices" based on these rings,altering and changing reality and/or transmuting energies,so if you are kind please tell,us as many as you can,what are these tools?Many thanks.

Furthermore,please develop punctually your entire post,of course in your spare time...I'm truly interested in your knowledge.Thanks again.

[Mashika]

Taken awhile to read all the replies. Interesting perspectives and questions.:flower:

To truly know something then you have had to have an experience and it would need to be profound. Then you could say you come from a place of knowing rather than a a place of beliefs.

I strongly suspect humanity is experiencing, on this dimension of awareness, a reality that is suppressing, distracting and manipulating, to prevent humanity from achieving their full potentials and creating a world that creates, experiences & shares through the heart (or mind in the heart) rather than just the mind (which is easily manipulated). I call this suppressed and manipulated state, the matrix (from the film, as surprisingly, for me. it holds truths).

Why do I strongly suspect? Well I've (humbly) had experiences to arrive to the aforementioned conclusions.

So do I describe, my experiences? To describe personal experiences on a site such as this, I feel, needs to come from the right motivation and intent. I share to aid whoever wishes to read the post,clarity on my perspective and why I have it.




About 10 years ago a very passionate group (and I honour that group), who had been dedicated to clearing their programs (ego) got together to experience source (or you could say an enlightened state) to walk with it every day, here on earth and.....well, source just responded.

Over about 2 years, the group received what can only be described as downloads of consciousness that seemed to synchnonistically reveal truths about reality. Experiences were; kundalini rising, the human energy field changing, in that the energetic layers of the human energy field started to disappear (which was easy to check if you are used to feeling them), eventually, it felt that you were a black hole, nature felt like bliss, (in fact most things felt like bliss), creativity was at a high and there was a sense of adventure.....what would the next day bring?


Hi, i have a few questions if you don't mind, please expand on these statements, i would like to know how all that has been said here on this thread relates to what you said on your post

What would that group be?

What is the way they go about when clearing their programs (ego) as you said?

Are you part of that group?

How did this event happened, 2 years ago? Was it planned, was there a conscious effort to communicate as a group? If so, was there some ritual or kind of procedure to provoke it?

How do you know it was "source" and not something else replying back?

"what would the next day bring?" What happened later on? Did the connection close? Since you are asking here about the Matrix and how to escape it, can i assume you did not get answers about those questions at all? What kind of information you got that made you consider the matrix, but not to have solid theories around it? It seems as if you had not received much, if any information about it through that experience



However, in EMF's around WIFI, masts etc, this state became compromised/flattened. The answer to the question why this was so and the solution that resulted to the EMF question ensured that we became persons of interest.

Why is this happening now? We've been here for way longer than EMF or other forms or radio or energy sources were around, why did it happen until now? This is something i wonder a lot because i see lots of people saying "the radio frequencies are closing you down and making it impossible to connect to source" but those radio sources like wifi or 2/3/5g have only been around for a few years, while humans were around for ages before



It was being persons of interest that we became aware, that in our reality, certain groups (not all human) do not want humanity to raise their vibe, create, feel bliss, solve, experience life as an adventure. They want us following their command in energetic suppression.

I still am a person of interest but I've managed to deal with it and even grow despite it.

What does it mean to be a person of interest? Like persecuted/targeted individual by governments and such? Or are you meaning like in Dolores Cannon books, background people vs people with souls?

Please expand on this, i think it would be interesting to see how all the posts here relate to your own experiences, plus it would add a lot more about your views, so far there are only questions since you did not provide much info after your initial posts, but if you do provide more info then maybe we can start correlating some ideas here

[Zirconian]

Hi Sacha Alisa,

My original questions were to open discussion and debate and I wish to continue with these discussions, if members wish to keep posting, as the posts are interesting.
Thanks go out to all who have posted.
I have not described my experiences, only hinted at them, as I want the thread to be about other member experiences, not just mine.
You have had an experience of a glorious floating light, that is an experience on your own pathway. We are all on our own pathway.
For me, anything that expands the heart, fills you with joy and bliss, that is the truth. Anything other than that is a distraction.
It can be as simple as that.

[Zirconian]

When I have the free time, I will describe how EMF's can suppress.

[aoibhghaire]

Partnership with Nature Intelligence.

Tools:

First of all the tools applied are not in physical form. The tools are invisible within our 5 senses both from nature and from the human. However, there are a range of ‘solutions’ that have an electrical pattern that are not only from the Earth but are infused with this electrical pattern from many realms or dimensions. There are other dimensions with specific intelligences that support the human through these tools. The human has this in built electrical system throughout it’s human body which you can conduct to the other electrical systems.
Co creation is the key with true partnership with nature intelligence:

You may assume that a co-creative relationship with nature means that they announce the definition, direction and purpose of their project and then sit back, and watch nature intelligences run around doing all the work. After all, I am saying that nature supplies the matter, means and action. Doesn't this mean that in a project nature manifests the right tools and then gets out there and starts actioning? No. It's a working partnership. Nature gives us the information that is needed to create this project in balance. That includes what tools are best for achieving our goal in light of the variables, working conditions and our ability. Nature gives you this information because it takes all the variables into account in light of your stated goal and establishes the balanced way to proceed. In short, nature doesn't do the work for you. It works with you.

In order to establish a co-creative partnership with nature, you won't have to give up your present life, quit your job and buy land in the country. Stay right where you are. Remember, where there is form, there is nature. Where nature and humans interact, there is a project. Where there is a project, there is an implied co-creative partnership. And where there is a co-creative partnership, there is the potential for i/e balance.

Process:

Because of the nature of the process to work, a different approach is required for a virtual arena. I don’t know how this could be done in a virtual environment. However, I will explore this possible new approach and hopefully once I have the right information I will come back to inform you. The process does involve a wide range of solutions that are used similarly like in alchemy.

[theowlandthewolf]

No. it's not the matrix. it's your fellow humans and some others. You are correct though. I'm tuned into those vibrations right now just fine, because I'v worked hard to let go of fear. Fear is what's preventing you from accessing that information.

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we are nature. nature is us.

[Zirconian]

When I sit in a state of openness, mindfulness with gratitude, I get what I term source downloads. I usually feel the download at my crown, in my auric field and then it feels like an energy flowing with a force at times, into my cellular structure.

In the past I found, that after downloads my auric field changes, in that layers disappear. This is permanent. In the past, following downloads about 4 a week, I went into what I term a black hole state ( I have described this in previous posts). I then felt everything, even a negative as bliss.

This did not hold and I now move in and out of the state, mainly depending on thoughts & EMF's but I do feel it strongly in nature.

At this time, I did become aware that EMF's interfered with any state I was feeling such as calm, peace, joyous inner heart expansion etc. I could feel EMF's hit me at the back of the neck, lower my kundalini, I felt pain inside my head, headaches, blurred vision and a clamping at the heart centre.

If a mast is in nature it's frequency waves affect me and the frequencies seem to overlay and suppress nature. It becomes difficult to feel in resonance with nature and feel that real uplift, joy, bliss when a mast is in the vicinity.

As for people who choose to keep their mobile phones with them at all times, They seem to have an energy field about a metre from their body that is purely WIFI. I call it the WIFI body. To me, their bodies seem now very resonant to wifi frequencies which may to some extent explain phone addiction.

I have to ask why this is. From my perception this is a suppression of the human energy field and it's resonance with nature.

From my experiences, when the human energy field vibrates at a certain level ( or when your heart is in resonance with source), you can feel that in nature. That same pure, joyous feeling. The heart just soars. There is bliss when you look at anything in nature. Nature responds with bliss back to you.

To explain, once I was with a man with MS. Myself and a carer were walking in nature, the man was in his motorised chair. I stared and touched the hedgerow we were passing, all of a sudden the hedgerow responded. I went into a deep peace & bliss, my mind went blank. The young carer had a very similar experience. he was blown away, he did link the experience to me and my interaction with nature.

I feel EMF's from technology are to suppress humans from revealing our true nature within, source. I call this suppression, the matrix. There is more to it.

I have stated in a previous post that I do feel we are in a dimensional hack. A hack, an overlay of the holographic. It feels like a suppression.

This suppression is becoming stronger and I do feel this will affect our free will choices until we don't have any free will. From this point of view, I do think we can dissolve this suppression. I feel we have learnt enough about ourselves in this suppression and can move on. I know others disagree with my statements. I honour their opinion.

All of us can go within and find source in our own way. At the moment, we have a choice.

Source to me is void, nothingness with a splash of bliss.

[Zirconian]

In addition,

I also feel nature is now outshining some of this suppression.
I feel this is a good time to delve within, if you so choose, in your own way, as there seems to be potentials for humans to log into this outshining.
The potentials are there for all.
Humanity may well loose access to these potentials, if we continue to move into a more EMF dominant world. I do not say this in fear, just to share this perspective based on the aforementioned experiences.

[Mashika]

Hi Sacha Alisa,

My original questions were to open discussion and debate and I wish to continue with these discussions, if members wish to keep posting, as the posts are interesting.
Thanks go out to all who have posted.
I have not described my experiences, only hinted at them, as I want the thread to be about other member experiences, not just mine.
You have had an experience of a glorious floating light, that is an experience on your own pathway. We are all on our own pathway.
For me, anything that expands the heart, fills you with joy and bliss, that is the truth. Anything other than that is a distraction.
It can be as simple as that.

With all due respect, i have to say i'm a bit disappointed now by this. It's a bit like cheating, saying you want to share experiences and talk about yours, but then saying it actually meant only to lead people into sharing and give you their experiences while you avoid sharing details of yours

If you did not want to share, it maybe would have been better not to mention all those details, such as "i'm a person of interest" if you later refuse to expand on that when someone requests for more details



I have not described my experiences, only hinted at them, as I want the thread to be about other member experiences, not just mine.

This is ego

And It's a bit like forum fishing for experiences that later can be used to integrate into other theories somewhere else. Some people have done that before here and in other forums and i dislike that

I'm not someone who will take directions like that, "discuss this issue for me while i sit and watch" I'm no toy of anyone and my research is not for amusement of anyone else, if you wanted to contribute and find an answer to your original question, you would be glad to go into detail, unless you think you know better than most here and are looking from top down view

However i thought Avalon was about research not about asking people to document these things for your amusement

This is only my perception of things but if someone tells me "discuss this for me" that's the last thing that will happen

So i'm out of this thread now, but before, just want to say that attempting to direct people so they give you back while you avoid giving honesty yourself is not a good approach, it doesn't even mix or can be part of all the other words you wrote here.

For me, all you said on this last reply only means one thing, you are deflecting and avoiding answering because you have second motives in all of this



For me, anything that expands the heart, fills you with joy and bliss, that is the truth. Anything other than that is a distraction

You kind of this the distraction part on your reply, since i tried to expand and learn from you but you decided not to allow for it, these words kind of sound empty now

Wish you luck in your path, but i can tell this is going wrong already

Bye

[Harmony]

I really like this thread, and my hope is it will keep growing. Perhaps as it develops and a clearer picture of the puzzle of our reality experience forms, as more ideas are added, it will be more understandable to others. Experiences are hard to explain. I can't understand everything how my heart works, but I know it does, and only because eveything relative in the universe makes it so.💕💕

[Trisher]

When I sit in a state of openness, mindfulness with gratitude, I get what I term source downloads. I usually feel the download at my crown, in my auric field and then it feels like an energy flowing with a force at times, into my cellular structure.

In the past I found, that after downloads my auric field changes, in that layers disappear. This is permanent. In the past, following downloads about 4 a week, I went into what I term a black hole state ( I have described this in previous posts). I then felt everything, even a negative as bliss.

This did not hold and I now move in and out of the state, mainly depending on thoughts & EMF's but I do feel it strongly in nature.

At this time, I did become aware that EMF's interfered with any state I was feeling such as calm, peace, joyous inner heart expansion etc. I could feel EMF's hit me at the back of the neck, lower my kundalini, I felt pain inside my head, headaches, blurred vision and a clamping at the heart centre.

If a mast is in nature it's frequency waves affect me and the frequencies seem to overlay and suppress nature. It becomes difficult to feel in resonance with nature and feel that real uplift, joy, bliss when a mast is in the vicinity.

As for people who choose to keep their mobile phones with them at all times, They seem to have an energy field about a metre from their body that is purely WIFI. I call it the WIFI body. To me, their bodies seem now very resonant to wifi frequencies which may to some extent explain phone addiction.

I have to ask why this is. From my perception this is a suppression of the human energy field and it's resonance with nature.

From my experiences, when the human energy field vibrates at a certain level ( or when your heart is in resonance with source), you can feel that in nature. That same pure, joyous feeling. The heart just soars. There is bliss when you look at anything in nature. Nature responds with bliss back to you.

To explain, once I was with a man with MS. Myself and a carer were walking in nature, the man was in his motorised chair. I stared and touched the hedgerow we were passing, all of a sudden the hedgerow responded. I went into a deep peace & bliss, my mind went blank. The young carer had a very similar experience. he was blown away, he did link the experience to me and my interaction with nature.

I feel EMF's from technology are to suppress humans from revealing our true nature within, source. I call this suppression, the matrix. There is more to it.

I have stated in a previous post that I do feel we are in a dimensional hack. A hack, an overlay of the holographic. It feels like a suppression.

This suppression is becoming stronger and I do feel this will affect our free will choices until we don't have any free will. From this point of view, I do think we can dissolve this suppression. I feel we have learnt enough about ourselves in this suppression and can move on. I know others disagree with my statements. I honour their opinion.

All of us can go within and find source in our own way. At the moment, we have a choice.

Source to me is void, nothingness with a splash of bliss.

Given the prevalence of EMFs in the environment and its ability to lower peoples vibration and also that of the earth then we do have a wake-up call. Apart from the endless shielding it appears that some solutions can include raising ourselves above it so that we no longer get lowered. An interesting question would be how high do we need to go then and how? My take would be to keep it simple. I have never found complicated works. Maybe the first step would be knowing deep down that we can. Then work through the heart /source connection.

Its clear from your post Zirconian that once someone has the ability to tune into nature and get a response, and does so in the vicinity of others, then they also have a door opened for them that allows them to experience the resonance as well.

A glimpse of the New World here.:flower:

Trisher

[greybeard]

With respect its all ego, to greater or lesser degree, until enlightenment occurs.
As long as there is a me expressing opinion the "Matrix" is.
On enlightenment, chopping wood fetching water continues, but its happening- there is not a personal me doing it.
Beyond the mind to understand this.
So Self Realization is the way out of the illusion of Matrix.

Chris

[Mashika]

With respect its all, ego to greater or lesser degree until enlightenment occurs.
As long as there is a me expressing opinion the "Matrix" is.
On enlightenment, chopping wood fetching water continues, but its happening- there is not a personal me doing it.
Beyond the mind to understand this.
So Self Realization is the way out of the illusion of Matrix.

Chris

Yes Sir, you know i admire your knowledge but yours it all came through a lot of work, time spent and effort spent on it, that's why i admire your position in life at this time

That's not the same as doing this:

"I want to know about these things, please let me ask you all to discuss so you bring all your knowledge out in the open and i can grab it and avoid working hard towards earning it myself over time"

Alternatively this

"I know you have plently of knowledge i'm not willing to work hard to get, so i'm going to bait saying i have some deep/hidden knowledge myself and ask what you think, but i won't share mine because i came here to pick your brains to increase my understanding for free and not giving anything back. I need you to figure this for me, i don't want you to know the things i know or i won't have precious knowledge anymore"

I have seen this way too many times before, and i don't think you got to where you are by doing this, because you share before you ask other people to share back, i have never seen you say "i just said this to lead you into giving me all your knowledge but i won't share to you what i know because my purpose is just not that" or some variation of this line of thought

So if he's reasoning was to come here and pick our brains and then take this away without even trying to share, as he clearly said when he admitted to bait for knowledge, then his path has taken a very wrong direction in the first place

At least he did not say something like "Any valid questions?" as some other person who came and did the exact same thing not so long ago

But it's the same kind of ego and self entitled way of saying

"discuss this for me because i can not be bothered to do it myself, i just want you to put the effort to figure it out because i want to learn about it, but not spend years on it, just throw it all out here for me won't you?"

And i don't like to be used for purposes like that

He is not saying

"I have this hypothesis, i have written here what i think or know, and my current ideas about it, what do you think? Can you add or figure out if i'm wrong here or there?"

Not at all, he simply said that he posted some stuff to bait people into discussing for him the details and he just wants to watch, he can change the wording all he wants but he started backwards, by asking people to provide their knowledge then avoiding to say anything from his side

I have high expectations of myself and anyone else, sometimes people get angry at me because of that and that's ok. But, when some people are supposed to do work on team projects just hang around waiting for the rest of the team to figure out stuff and then just shows up the day of the presentation? That's a no for me

[Trisher]

No. it's not the matrix. it's your fellow humans and some others. You are correct though. I'm tuned into those vibrations right now just fine, because I'v worked hard to let go of fear. Fear is what's preventing you from accessing that information.

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we are nature. nature is us.

Yes I agree..we are nature and nature is us. We are part of all of it. The same life-force energy that flows through us also flows through a flower, a rock and tree. All of it conscious.

I find myself asking my salad plants is it OK to eat you. They rarely reply with a no.:flower:

Trisher

[EFO]

Masha,Mashika prashu tebya,ne nada.


I have high expectations of myself and anyone else, sometimes people get angry at me because of that and that's ok. But, when some people are supposed to do work on team projects just hang around waiting for the rest of the team to figure out stuff and then just shows up the day of the presentation? That's a no for me

You are right thinking like this!I think that Zirconian didn't mean any harm to anyone,simply some private aspects couldn't be told in public.People have always something to hide from public view.Even I have,but I'm an open book in private with people I trust.

I suggest you to ask Zirconian in private,perhaps will tell you the solution.

I told you my solution by replying to aoibhghaire (first post on this page).

We Romanians have an old saying:"Iute la manie si degraba de sange varsatoriu." written in old chronicles hardly translated by Quick to rage and fast of blood shedding,which teach us that we have a second option.

Every time the second option could save a situation.

[Harmony]

For people who have spent a lot of time in meditation, or even during REM sleep, or any way that worked for them to somehow find themseslves in a “different perception of reality” there is no doubt in their mind dthey have experienced something profound.

Maybe I could add a little more of some other research from this document I linked to earlier.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111615-The-Matrix.-Are-we-in-one-If-so-how-do-we-get-out&p=1369920&viewfull=1#post1369920

Perhaps it may be helpful to some that need a “mental image” to put some substance to what might be happening energetically so it doesn’t seem so “airy fairy” to them.

There does indeed seem to be an inside to the holographic matrix with a parameter where space-time is held within. Some of the research in the above document touches on that anomaly. The research also describes an inbetween area, between “The Absolute In Infinity” and “Portion Of Oscillating Energy Pattern In Time-Space”.

There is an illustration on page13 that I wasn't able to upload, unfortunately.

In that inbetween area there is an area at the points of ocillation where some of the phenomena experienced by meditators and other types of experiencers may be entering outside space-time parameters. You may recognise in this report similar experiences you may have experienced.

It may be relevant in understanding what may be happening and how it may be posssible to make changes, and how a holographic matrix may work. Even though the research experiment uses hemi-sync to enter into this field, I’m sure some will realise there are other ways of entry.

The following refers to how the body uses natural occouring heart vibrations with the earths vibrations.

“8. Role of Resonance, However, brain coherence through entrainment to "beat" frequencies introduced via stereo headphones is only part of the reason why the Gateway system works. It is also designed to achieve the physical quietude characteristic of deep transcendental meditative states which brings about a complete alteration of the fundamental resonance pattern associated with the sound frequencies produced by the human body. Yoga, Zen or transcendental meditation, if practiced long enough, will produce a change in the sound frequency with which the human heart resonates throughout the entire body. According to Bentov, this change in resonance results from elimination of what the medical profession calls "the bifurcation echo" so that the sound of the heartbeat can move synchronously up and down the circulatory system in harmonious resonance approximately seven times a Second. Bentov describes the roll played by the bifurcation echo as follows: “When the left ventricle of the heart ejects blood, the aorta, being elastic, balloons out just beyond the valve and causes a pressure pulse to travel down along the aorta. When the pressure pulse reaches the bifurcation in the lower abdomen (which is where the aorta forks in two to go into the legs), part of the pressure pulse rebounds and starts traveling up the aorta, If in the meantime the heart ejects more blood, and a new pressure pulse is traveling down, these two pressure
points will eventually collide somewhere along the aorta and produce an interference pattern," By placing the body in a sleeplike state, the Gateway tapes achieve the same goal as meditation in that it places the body in such a profoundly relaxed state that the bifurcation echo slowly fades away as the heart lessens the force and frequency with which it pushes blood into the aorta. The result is a regular, rhythmic sinewave pattern of sound which echoes throughout the body and rises up into the head in sustained resonance. The amplitude of this sinewave pattern, when measured with a sensitive, seismograph type instrument is about three times the average of the sound volume produced by the heart when it is operating normally.

9. Brain Stimulation. Bentov's biomedical model shows that this resonance is of considerable importance since it is directly transmitted to and impacts upon the brain. The resulting vibration is received and transmitted into the brain itself via the fluid filled third and left ventricles located above the brain stem. An electromagnetic pulse is then generated which stimulates the brain to raise the amplitude and frequency of brainwave output, just as Dr. Twemlow observed in his research on the effects of the Hemi-Sync tapes. Also, the brain is contained ina tight membrane called the dura which is, in turn, cushioned by a thin layer of fluid located between it and the skull. As the coherent resonance produced by the human heart in a state of profound relaxation reaches the fluid layer surrounding the brain, it sets up a rhythmic pattern in which the brain moves up and down approximately 0.005 to 0.010 millimeters in a continuous pattern. The selfreinforcing character of resonant behavior accounts for the body's ability to sustain this movement despite the minimal level of energy involved. In this way, the entire body, based on its own micromotion, functions as a tuned vibrational system which transfers energy in a range of between 6.8 and 7.5 Hertz into the earth's ionospheric cavity, which itself resonates at about 7-7.5 Hertz. Of this process, Bentov states: "This is occurring at a very long wavelength of about 40,000 km, or just about the perimeter of the planet. In other words, the signal from the movement of our bodies will travel around the world in about one seventh of a second through the electrostatic field in which we are imbedded. Such a long wavelength knows no obstacles, and its strength does not attenuate much over large distances. Naturally it will go through just about anything: metal, concrete, water, and the fields making up our bodies. It is the ideal medium for conveying a telepathic signal.” Consequently, the Gateway process is designed to rather rapidly induce a state of profound calm within the nervous system and to significantly lower blood pressure to cause the circulatory system, skeleton and all other physical organ systems to begin vibrating coherently at approximately 7-7.5 cycles per second. The resulting resonance sets up a regular, repetitive sound wave which propagates in consonance with the elecrostatic field of the earth.

10. Energy Entrainment. As the body is turned into a coherent oscillator vibrating in harmony with the surrounding electrostatic medium, the specific exercises included in the Gateway tapes enjoin the participant to build up the energy field surrounding his body, presumably by using energy from the earth's field which the body is now entraining because of its ability to resonate with it. This puts the body's energy field into homogeneity with its surrounding environment and promotes movement of the seat of consciousness into the surrounding environment partly in response to the fact that the two electromagnetic medians are now a single energy continuum. Thus, the same process which moves the brain into focused coherence at steadily higher levels of frequency and amplitude so as to entrain analgous frequencies in the universe for data collection also promotes enhancement of bodily energy levels to a point adequate to permit the subject to experience an out-of-body movement when he is ready to do so(more will be said about this topic later). In addition, by resonating with the earth's electromagnetic sphere the human body creates a surprisingly powerful carrier wave to assist the mind in communication activity with other human minds similarly tuned.”

There is much more in the document that describes different heights of vibrations that coincide with out of body experiences, remote viewinng, a place near the edge of the matrix parameters and the absolute infinity where past and future can be accessed.




43993

[Trisher]

Very interesting Harmony. Thank you so much for sharing. It demonstrates vividly that its all in the experience of it.

Trisher

[EFO]

Partnership with Nature Intelligence.

Tools:

First of all the tools applied are not in physical form. The tools are invisible within our 5 senses both from nature and from the human. However, there are a range of ‘solutions’ that have an electrical pattern that are not only from the Earth but are infused with this electrical pattern from many realms or dimensions. There are other dimensions with specific intelligences that support the human through these tools. The human has this in built electrical system throughout it’s human body which you can conduct to the other electrical systems.
Co creation is the key with true partnership with nature intelligence:

You may assume that a co-creative relationship with nature means that they announce the definition, direction and purpose of their project and then sit back, and watch nature intelligences run around doing all the work. After all, I am saying that nature supplies the matter, means and action. Doesn't this mean that in a project nature manifests the right tools and then gets out there and starts actioning? No. It's a working partnership. Nature gives us the information that is needed to create this project in balance. That includes what tools are best for achieving our goal in light of the variables, working conditions and our ability. Nature gives you this information because it takes all the variables into account in light of your stated goal and establishes the balanced way to proceed. In short, nature doesn't do the work for you. It works with you.

In order to establish a co-creative partnership with nature, you won't have to give up your present life, quit your job and buy land in the country. Stay right where you are. Remember, where there is form, there is nature. Where nature and humans interact, there is a project. Where there is a project, there is an implied co-creative partnership. And where there is a co-creative partnership, there is the potential for i/e balance.

Process:

Because of the nature of the process to work, a different approach is required for a virtual arena. I don’t know how this could be done in a virtual environment. However, I will explore this possible new approach and hopefully once I have the right information I will come back to inform you. The process does involve a wide range of solutions that are used similarly like in alchemy.

Thank you for your very informative and well pointed reply.

This is what I am doing with the rings and indeed is needed a NEW TOTALLY DIFFERENT APPROACH of what we know by now.

As you said that "the tools are invisible to our common 5 senses" they are visible to other uncommon senses.

The rings and devices based on them create a tensor field in their interior plane and on both sides of the rings form a column of energy.Depending the size of the ring and wire gauge the "potency of the rings grow.It is added a crystal also the potency grow.If this combination of copper ring and crystal is added in water also the potency of the energy field is growing.In all cases the "influence of the energetic field is expanding contaminating and penetrating everything.

This are very briefly said.

Using a little bit of math,geometry,some newly discovered sacred forms,some old geometric forms like eye of Horus/Vesica Pisces and translated into a 3D form is obtained Michael Evans's Trion-Re (many thanks to our member DeeMetrios for that) and the ALCHEMY can go on with 464 Hz copper resonant frequency and/or 528 Hz water resonant frequency or/and adding respective resonant colors and last but not least a higher and pure intention and things will change in a positive manner.

With proofs! :)

If I would have a real frequency generator to which I could change the octaves,frequencies,amplitude and use multiple frequencies at once (a carrier frequency and at least two adjacent frequencies),things would be better and more advanced.But all things to their time.:)

[Harmony]

Partnership with Nature Intelligence.

Tools:

First of all the tools applied are not in physical form. The tools are invisible within our 5 senses both from nature and from the human. However, there are a range of ‘solutions’ that have an electrical pattern that are not only from the Earth but are infused with this electrical pattern from many realms or dimensions. There are other dimensions with specific intelligences that support the human through these tools. The human has this in built electrical system throughout it’s human body which you can conduct to the other electrical systems.
Co creation is the key with true partnership with nature intelligence:

You may assume that a co-creative relationship with nature means that they announce the definition, direction and purpose of their project and then sit back, and watch nature intelligences run around doing all the work. After all, I am saying that nature supplies the matter, means and action. Doesn't this mean that in a project nature manifests the right tools and then gets out there and starts actioning? No. It's a working partnership. Nature gives us the information that is needed to create this project in balance. That includes what tools are best for achieving our goal in light of the variables, working conditions and our ability. Nature gives you this information because it takes all the variables into account in light of your stated goal and establishes the balanced way to proceed. In short, nature doesn't do the work for you. It works with you.

In order to establish a co-creative partnership with nature, you won't have to give up your present life, quit your job and buy land in the country. Stay right where you are. Remember, where there is form, there is nature. Where nature and humans interact, there is a project. Where there is a project, there is an implied co-creative partnership. And where there is a co-creative partnership, there is the potential for i/e balance.

Process:

Because of the nature of the process to work, a different approach is required for a virtual arena. I don’t know how this could be done in a virtual environment. However, I will explore this possible new approach and hopefully once I have the right information I will come back to inform you. The process does involve a wide range of solutions that are used similarly like in alchemy.

Thank you for your very informative and well pointed reply.

This is what I am doing with the rings and indeed is needed a NEW TOTALLY DIFFERENT APPROACH of what we know by now.

As you said that "the tools are invisible to our common 5 senses" they are visible to other uncommon senses.

The rings and devices based on them create a tensor field in their interior plane and on both sides of the rings form a column of energy.Depending the size of the ring and wire gauge the "potency of the rings grow.It is added a crystal also the potency grow.If this combination of copper ring and crystal is added in water also the potency of the energy field is growing.In all cases the "influence of the energetic field is expanding contaminating and penetrating everything.

This are very briefly said.

Using a little bit of math,geometry,some newly discovered sacred forms,some old geometric forms like eye of Horus/Vesica Pisces and translated into a 3D form is obtained Michael Evans's Trion-Re (many thanks to our member DeeMetrios for that) and the ALCHEMY can go on with 464 Hz copper resonant frequency and/or 528 Hz water resonant frequency or/and adding respective resonant colors and last but not least a higher and pure intention and things will change in a positive manner.

With proofs! :)

If I would have a real frequency generator to which I could change the octaves,frequencies,amplitude and use multiple frequencies at once (a carrier frequency and at least two adjacent frequencies),things would be better and more advanced.But all things to their time.:)

Hey EFO,

I have been listening to your information about Tensor rings you mentioned to help reduce EMF and their effects. Today I finished my first Tensor ring and am wearing it as we type☺. It all checked out with the pendulum to check posiive energy so I will report how it goes🤗.

[EFO]

Hey EFO,

I have been listening to your information about Tensor rings you mentioned to help reduce EMF and their effects. Today I finished my first Tensor ring and am wearing it as we type☺. It all checked out with the pendulum to check posiive energy so I will report how it goes🤗.

In respect for Zirconian and not wanted to hijack the main subject of the tread,I can only say that this is a hell of a news for which I thank you :heart::heart::heart: and I'm waiting for your feedback in the next days after things settle down a bit.Pay attention:you will cross through a "transition period" in which ANYTHING and EVERYTHING could happen.

PLEASE TAKE VERY GOOD CARE TO ANYTHING and EVERYTHING

Will talk further in private.

[palehorse]

For people who have spent a lot of time in meditation, or even during REM sleep, or any way that worked for them to somehow find themseslves in a “different perception of reality” there is no doubt in their mind dthey have experienced something profound.

Maybe I could add a little more of some other research from this document I linked to earlier.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111615-The-Matrix.-Are-we-in-one-If-so-how-do-we-get-out&p=1369920&viewfull=1#post1369920

Perhaps it may be helpful to some that need a “mental image” to put some substance to what might be happening energetically so it doesn’t seem so “airy fairy” to them.

There does indeed seem to be an inside to the holographic matrix with a parameter where space-time is held within. Some of the research in the above document touches on that anomaly. The research also describes an inbetween area, between “The Absolute In Infinity” and “Portion Of Oscillating Energy Pattern In Time-Space”.

There is an illustration on page13 that I wasn't able to upload, unfortunately.

In that inbetween area there is an area at the points of ocillation where some of the phenomena experienced by meditators and other types of experiencers may be entering outside space-time parameters. You may recognise in this report similar experiences you may have experienced.

It may be relevant in understanding what may be happening and how it may be posssible to make changes, and how a holographic matrix may work. Even though the research experiment uses hemi-sync to enter into this field, I’m sure some will realise there are other ways of entry.

The following refers to how the body uses natural occouring heart vibrations with the earths vibrations.

“8. Role of Resonance, However, brain coherence through entrainment to "beat" frequencies introduced via stereo headphones is only part of the reason why the Gateway system works. It is also designed to achieve the physical quietude characteristic of deep transcendental meditative states which brings about a complete alteration of the fundamental resonance pattern associated with the sound frequencies produced by the human body. Yoga, Zen or transcendental meditation, if practiced long enough, will produce a change in the sound frequency with which the human heart resonates throughout the entire body. According to Bentov, this change in resonance results from elimination of what the medical profession calls "the bifurcation echo" so that the sound of the heartbeat can move synchronously up and down the circulatory system in harmonious resonance approximately seven times a Second. Bentov describes the roll played by the bifurcation echo as follows: “When the left ventricle of the heart ejects blood, the aorta, being elastic, balloons out just beyond the valve and causes a pressure pulse to travel down along the aorta. When the pressure pulse reaches the bifurcation in the lower abdomen (which is where the aorta forks in two to go into the legs), part of the pressure pulse rebounds and starts traveling up the aorta, If in the meantime the heart ejects more blood, and a new pressure pulse is traveling down, these two pressure
points will eventually collide somewhere along the aorta and produce an interference pattern," By placing the body in a sleeplike state, the Gateway tapes achieve the same goal as meditation in that it places the body in such a profoundly relaxed state that the bifurcation echo slowly fades away as the heart lessens the force and frequency with which it pushes blood into the aorta. The result is a regular, rhythmic sinewave pattern of sound which echoes throughout the body and rises up into the head in sustained resonance. The amplitude of this sinewave pattern, when measured with a sensitive, seismograph type instrument is about three times the average of the sound volume produced by the heart when it is operating normally.

9. Brain Stimulation. Bentov's biomedical model shows that this resonance is of considerable importance since it is directly transmitted to and impacts upon the brain. The resulting vibration is received and transmitted into the brain itself via the fluid filled third and left ventricles located above the brain stem. An electromagnetic pulse is then generated which stimulates the brain to raise the amplitude and frequency of brainwave output, just as Dr. Twemlow observed in his research on the effects of the Hemi-Sync tapes. Also, the brain is contained ina tight membrane called the dura which is, in turn, cushioned by a thin layer of fluid located between it and the skull. As the coherent resonance produced by the human heart in a state of profound relaxation reaches the fluid layer surrounding the brain, it sets up a rhythmic pattern in which the brain moves up and down approximately 0.005 to 0.010 millimeters in a continuous pattern. The selfreinforcing character of resonant behavior accounts for the body's ability to sustain this movement despite the minimal level of energy involved. In this way, the entire body, based on its own micromotion, functions as a tuned vibrational system which transfers energy in a range of between 6.8 and 7.5 Hertz into the earth's ionospheric cavity, which itself resonates at about 7-7.5 Hertz. Of this process, Bentov states: "This is occurring at a very long wavelength of about 40,000 km, or just about the perimeter of the planet. In other words, the signal from the movement of our bodies will travel around the world in about one seventh of a second through the electrostatic field in which we are imbedded. Such a long wavelength knows no obstacles, and its strength does not attenuate much over large distances. Naturally it will go through just about anything: metal, concrete, water, and the fields making up our bodies. It is the ideal medium for conveying a telepathic signal.” Consequently, the Gateway process is designed to rather rapidly induce a state of profound calm within the nervous system and to significantly lower blood pressure to cause the circulatory system, skeleton and all other physical organ systems to begin vibrating coherently at approximately 7-7.5 cycles per second. The resulting resonance sets up a regular, repetitive sound wave which propagates in consonance with the elecrostatic field of the earth.

10. Energy Entrainment. As the body is turned into a coherent oscillator vibrating in harmony with the surrounding electrostatic medium, the specific exercises included in the Gateway tapes enjoin the participant to build up the energy field surrounding his body, presumably by using energy from the earth's field which the body is now entraining because of its ability to resonate with it. This puts the body's energy field into homogeneity with its surrounding environment and promotes movement of the seat of consciousness into the surrounding environment partly in response to the fact that the two electromagnetic medians are now a single energy continuum. Thus, the same process which moves the brain into focused coherence at steadily higher levels of frequency and amplitude so as to entrain analgous frequencies in the universe for data collection also promotes enhancement of bodily energy levels to a point adequate to permit the subject to experience an out-of-body movement when he is ready to do so(more will be said about this topic later). In addition, by resonating with the earth's electromagnetic sphere the human body creates a surprisingly powerful carrier wave to assist the mind in communication activity with other human minds similarly tuned.”

There is much more in the document that describes different heights of vibrations that coincide with out of body experiences, remote viewinng, a place near the edge of the matrix parameters and the absolute infinity where past and future can be accessed.

43993

The document posted is a nice one, when I start reading it today something triggered my brain, like a dejavu thing, then I spotted the Itzhak Bentov's name on it, I did read letters from Bentov and a book wrote by his wife after he passed away called "A Cosmic Book", the book is a compilation of many of his letters, it is relatively short book but packed with amazing information using a hologram as a model he unfolds a very unique picture of the structure of the universe. He was an engineer, scientist, inventor and a mystic, he left to us a great work, a start point to question like in this thread. His expression on this subjects are genuine, no bull****.

Itzhak Bentov, also wrote a book called "Stalking the wild pendulum" may be of interest for someone in this thread.

So far so good, this thread is great!

[EFO]

The document posted is a nice one, when I start reading it today something triggered my brain, like a dejavu thing, then I spotted the Itzhak Bentov's name on it, I did read letters from Bentov and a book wrote by his wife after he passed away called "A Cosmic Book", the book is a compilation of many of his letters, it is relatively short book but packed with amazing information using a hologram as a model he unfolds a very unique picture of the structure of the universe. He was an engineer, scientist, inventor and a mystic, he left to us a great work, a start point to question like in this thread. His expression on this subjects are genuine, no bull****.

Itzhak Bentov, also wrote a book called "Stalking the wild pendulum" may be of interest for someone in this thread.

So far so good, this thread is great!

Hi palehorse,check (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9462-Interesting-Free-Books-in-PDF&p=1370252&viewfull=1#post1370252) what I've done :)

[palehorse]

The document posted is a nice one, when I start reading it today something triggered my brain, like a dejavu thing, then I spotted the Itzhak Bentov's name on it, I did read letters from Bentov and a book wrote by his wife after he passed away called "A Cosmic Book", the book is a compilation of many of his letters, it is relatively short book but packed with amazing information using a hologram as a model he unfolds a very unique picture of the structure of the universe. He was an engineer, scientist, inventor and a mystic, he left to us a great work, a start point to question like in this thread. His expression on this subjects are genuine, no bull****.

Itzhak Bentov, also wrote a book called "Stalking the wild pendulum" may be of interest for someone in this thread.

So far so good, this thread is great!

Hi palehorse,check (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9462-Interesting-Free-Books-in-PDF&p=1370252&viewfull=1#post1370252) what I've done :)

Amazing, also I didn't know about that thread, seems like it is packed with good stuffs, will scroll around :thumbsup:

[Zirconian]

Harmony, that was great post re Bentov's Gateway objectives,to expand human consciousness to transcend the space-time dimension.:flower:

Thanks EFO for posting his book on the "Interesting Free Books in PDF" thread.

His book review:

This book was published in 1977. It's an outdated classic. The first 6 chapters are still pretty solid; that is, Bentov does a great job of explaining quantum physics in layman's terms. (Everything in the Universe is vibration, including us. What we think of as solid reality is just our slow human brains trying to make sense of information that is moving at the speed of light.) By about chapter 7, the current science outpaces Bentov's explanations, and by chapter 8, his "Model of the Universe," we know that the material is outdated and some of it is incorrect. He discusses, for example, a Universe that expands and then eventually collapses back into itself, with time traveling backwards. In 2011, however, three scientists - Saul Perlmutter, Brian Schmidt, and Adam Riess - won the Nobel Prize for Physics for the discovery that our Universe is expanding forever outward and will NOT collapse back onto itself. This is just one of many of Bentov's theories that has been proven wrong, though I hope that some of his ideas prove correct in the future. Stalking the Wild Pendulum is still a very good review of what was considered the cutting edge of consciousness theory 40 years ago.

Harmony, with regards to Bentov's Gateway objectives; Do you think EMF's might interfere with the role of resonance, brain stimulation and energy entrainment to earth and therefore disrupt transcendence of the space-time dimension?

From Dr Edward Group, research suggests,

EMF'S Derails Brain Function

Just as the Danish high schoolers noticed concerns with concentration, scientists have begun to look at the impact of 4G radiation on brain function. Using MRI technology, research performed just last year found that persons exposed to 4G radiation had several areas of reduced brain activity. [7

EMF's Provoke Cardiac Stress

If you think your heart races when surrounded by wireless networks or 3G or LTE cell phones, it may not be in your head. A study involving 69 subjects reported that many of them experienced a real physical response to electromagnetic frequencies. Exactly what was the physical response? Increased heart rate — similar to the heart rate of an individual under stress. [14]

EMF's a suppression of the expanding of human consciousness to transcend space-time?

[Zirconian]

From my experience, I'm also interested in how a focus on the health of gut biomes increases a resonance with Gaia.

I have noticed that with attention to gut biome health, the heart expansions and resonance with Gaia (the source in Gaia) also increases.

I call it- the human to Gaia biome resonance. Through this resonance, I feel when I'm in nature I move more into source fields (peace, joy, bliss).

Maybe a move out of the space-time dimension?

Dr Klinghardt studies have shown (I recommend all his work via the Klinghardt Institute), That EMF's modify the human microbiome.


Aterini, Stefano, and Marco Ruggiero. "Electromagnetic Fields." Encyclopedia of Cancer. Springer Berlin Heidelberg, 2011. 1213-1216.
• “However, since we have learned that electromagnetic fields, even of minimal intensity such as the endogenous electromagnetic fields, modify the human microbiome, their effects might be much more complex and far ranging • Considering that the human microbiome is involved in the development and function of all other organs and systems, and most notably the immune system (Palm et al. 2015), alteration of the microbiome may be one of the mechanisms through which electromagnetic fields, both endogenous and exogenous, exert their biological effects. • Thus, the effects of electromagnetic fields on the human microbiome open a new perspective in assessing the risks for health and in preventing them. • Microbes and the microbiome may amplify or mitigate carcinogenesis, responsiveness to cancer therapeutics, and cancer-associated complication (Garrett 2015) and, therefore, electromagnetic fields modifying the microbiome may interfere with all such cancer-related responses. • It is foreseeable that the development of functional foods containing probiotics for the prevention and treatment of cancer will have to take into account the effects of endogenous as well as exogenous electromagnetic fields on the human microbiome.

Another suppression?

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P.S.

I am reading the work re tools. Thanks to all contributors. Very interesting.:clapping:

[Mashika]

Masha,Mashika prashu tebya,ne nada.


I have high expectations of myself and anyone else, sometimes people get angry at me because of that and that's ok. But, when some people are supposed to do work on team projects just hang around waiting for the rest of the team to figure out stuff and then just shows up the day of the presentation? That's a no for me

You are right thinking like this!I think that Zirconian didn't mean any harm to anyone,simply some private aspects couldn't be told in public.People have always something to hide from public view.Even I have,but I'm an open book in private with people I trust.

I suggest you to ask Zirconian in private,perhaps will tell you the solution.

I told you my solution by replying to aoibhghaire (first post on this page).

We Romanians have an old saying:"Iute la manie si degraba de sange varsatoriu." written in old chronicles hardly translated by Quick to rage and fast of blood shedding,which teach us that we have a second option.

Every time the second option could save a situation.

Long time ago, Saburo Hasegawa was asked, how long does it takes to understand zen? And he said "It could be 30 years, it could be 3 minutes"

We are looking at the 3 minutes approach here, you know what i mean by that, right?

Unfortunately real knowledge doesn't come prepackaged for the microwave

i have posted some stuff here that goes way beyond the "mistery" game, most people didn't pick up on it and that was ok. I don't play that other game

For people like me, you either say things you can say or don't at all, and if you say them, it's because you want to let something out and you are willing to let the consequences come back to you, and you are just not here to play pretend. If no one wonders or asks back, or cares, then that's perfectly fine as well

But never say "i may know something important" and when asked say "i only said that to lead you into a conversation about things i was interested in watching to pick up some info for hidden reasons"

That's just not right, and it should be obvious, but whatever. At this point i completely lost interest and i only replied here because i respect you and don't like to ghost people, it's insulting to do that

But i won't be around this thread anymore. It's void of an actual purpose and goal, it's mean to extract knowledge, then it will most likely fill that empty void of "something got downloaded from the matrix" and all you guys say here, including my stuff, will be reworded to be that "special knowledge" that we have not heard about but the misterious "group" got sent on that day 2 years ago or whatever

:flower::flower::flower::flower::bearhug::bearhug::bearhug:

[EFO]

Dear Mashika,

I'm truly sorry for the incident and for your feelings and perhaps you will reconsider your opinion even if I understand you 3 min. zen. :)

Just think to only that it will be possible that at one point this thread will bring interesting info...

I don't insist for Zirconian,I insist for INFORMATION TO BE SPREAD and reach sheeple's ears.Woould you be agree with that?Many thanks.

[Zirconian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezoX_YQIXSA

Dr. Zach Bush lives and breathes microbiome science, always taking time to reconnect with the vast ecosystem of microbiota that surrounds and connects us. This passion for the intelligence of nature is what lead him to create ION*Biome. It’s another way to help reconnect yourself with nature and improve overall wellbeing.

An example of Gaia resonance.

In this state of resonance, ask for source downloads and potentials.

It's a pathway.:flower:

[Zirconian]

Again, to highlight the suppression


Dr Klinghardt studies have shown (I recommend all his work via the Klinghardt Institute),

That EMF's modify the human microbiome.


Aterini, Stefano, and Marco Ruggiero. "Electromagnetic Fields." Encyclopedia of Cancer. Springer Berlin Heidelberg, 2011. 1213-1216.
• “However, since we have learned that electromagnetic fields, even of minimal intensity such as the endogenous electromagnetic fields, modify the human microbiome, their effects might be much more complex and far ranging • Considering that the human microbiome is involved in the development and function of all other organs and systems, and most notably the immune system (Palm et al. 2015), alteration of the microbiome may be one of the mechanisms through which electromagnetic fields, both endogenous and exogenous, exert their biological effects. • Thus, the effects of electromagnetic fields on the human microbiome open a new perspective in assessing the risks for health and in preventing them. • Microbes and the microbiome may amplify or mitigate carcinogenesis, responsiveness to cancer therapeutics, and cancer-associated complication (Garrett 2015) and, therefore, electromagnetic fields modifying the microbiome may interfere with all such cancer-related responses. • It is foreseeable that the development of functional foods containing probiotics for the prevention and treatment of cancer will have to take into account the effects of endogenous as well as exogenous electromagnetic fields on the human microbiome.


A way of supressing/blocking the human to Gaian pathway to source potentials outside the space-time dimension?

[Trisher]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezoX_YQIXSA

Dr. Zach Bush lives and breathes microbiome science, always taking time to reconnect with the vast ecosystem of microbiota that surrounds and connects us. This passion for the intelligence of nature is what lead him to create ION*Biome. It’s another way to help reconnect yourself with nature and improve overall wellbeing.

An example of Gaia resonance.

In this state of resonance, ask for source downloads and potentials.

It's a pathway.:flower:

I love the solutions on this thread. Whenever I grow things I always ensure that I have an alive soil by using composting and leaf mould and more. Plants connect to each other through this earthly microbiome which also connects to us because we are a huge collection of microbes and not a lot that we would term "human". It is all in the stilling of our minds that we get to feel the consciousness interconnecting all things.

Trisher

[Zirconian]

Trisher, :flower:

Lovely.

Meditation in nature, away from EMF's by stilling the mind, opening the heart and in gratitude can connect to Gaian source consciousness through our microbiome resonance with the Gaian microbiomes. It is in this space that Source potentials exist for all.

Gaia is re-emerging through all the suppression with solutions and potentials for humans to create a new world. :heart:

[Harmony]

Harmony, that was great post re Bentov's Gateway objectives,to expand human consciousness to transcend the space-time dimension.:flower:

Thanks EFO for posting his book on the "Interesting Free Books in PDF" thread.


Harmony, with regards to Bentov's Gateway objectives; Do you think EMF's might interfere with the role of resonance, brain stimulation and energy entrainment to earth and therefore disrupt transcendence of the space-time dimension?

From Dr Edward Group, research suggests,

EMF'S Derails Brain Function

Just as the Danish high schoolers noticed concerns with concentration, scientists have begun to look at the impact of 4G radiation on brain function. Using MRI technology, research performed just last year found that persons exposed to 4G radiation had several areas of reduced brain activity. [7

EMF's Provoke Cardiac Stress

If you think your heart races when surrounded by wireless networks or 3G or LTE cell phones, it may not be in your head. A study involving 69 subjects reported that many of them experienced a real physical response to electromagnetic frequencies. Exactly what was the physical response? Increased heart rate — similar to the heart rate of an individual under stress. [14]

EMF's a suppression of the expanding of human consciousness to transcend space-time?


Thank you for the great rescources Zirconian. And all the great thoughts posted.


Yes, I would agree the microbiome in our bodies would create a healthier and more balanced body. In turn that should IMHO be more in harmony with a natural human blueprint to work in conjunction with earths resonance.


When you think of how studies have shown how mycellium is like the communication neuron synapses in a brain, where by forests and life forms communicate, it seems like miocrobiome may be similar.


Vibratory frequency of our cells, in conjunction with the rest of our whole make up, seems to play a big part in the frequency reaonance during meditation etc., or by other means, of naturally affecting our relationship with the frequencies of the earth that is resonating relative to the universe and so on.


I’m wondering if humans can change with the changes happening in our environment. As it seems with planetarty changes over millenia or cosmic changes, they would affect earth and maybe there is some sort of automatic default that brings us into some natural entrainment.


I am looking forward to hearing Aoibhghaire’s ideas on possible ways that may help with EMF.


Studies do show that our cellular resonance is affected by EMF so it must change us in an unnatural way.


Here is an article: Conscousness in the Universe is Tuned by Musical Master Code: A Hydrodynamic Superfluid Qantum Space Guides a Conformal Mental Attribut of Reality.
You can download a bood with great CGI illustraations and good information about cells and how they can be affected by EMF.


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338147415_Consciousness_in_the_Universe_is_Tuned_by_a_Musical_Master_Code_A_Hydrodynamic_Superfluid_ Quantum_Space_Guides_a_Conformal_Mental_Attribute_of_Reality_The_Hard_Problem_in_Consciousness_Studi es_Revisit


“3.1 EMF Frequencies of Water Reflect Coherent Quantum Information of the GM-scale Water is quantum coherent under ordinary conditions, according to a quantum electrodynamics field theory that may explain many of its most paradoxical properties including life itself (Vitiello, 2001; Jibu and Yasue, 1995; Umezawa, 1993). Quantum fluctuations and coupling between matter and electromagnetic field in Quantum Electro Dynamics (QED), predicts quantum coherence for liquid water even under ordinary temperatures and pressures, according to Del Giudice, (2009, 2010). This theory suggests that interaction between the vacuum electromagnetic field and liquid water induces the formation of large, stable coherent domains (CDs) of about 100 nm in diameter at ambient conditions, and these CDs may be responsible for all the special properties of water including life itself (Fig. 4). Nowadays, it is expected in the biological community that life originated in water and that the multitude of organisms found their habitat in it. Water provides the medium in which all biochemical reactions take place. The importance of water to living organisms originates from its peculiar features including the solvent properties, its high specific heat capacity, as well as its high latent heat of vaporization. Water owes these unique properties to the polarity (dipole character) of its constituent molecules and in particular to the ability to form hydrogen bonds internally and with other molecules. In this view, water is seen as an active medium where the principle of coherent information starts from inanimate liquid systems up to highly organized organisms (Jerman, 2016). Namely, contemporary quantum field theory does not only unveil life as a profoundly electromagnetic phenomenon, it maintains that all liquids including water have special electromagnetic properties involving coherence.”


If we are in a holographic matrix within time-space reality bubble what does that mean?j


Is it a learning place to see what cause and effect consequences occour?


Can we change our holographic matrix reality? And what might we have observed that needs changing?


Are we being manipulated to benefit another groups agenda?


Is there a time we understand the matrix needs changing and how is it done?


How the vibration of “love” can transend vibratory restrictions




It seems this matrix is built upon energy being aquired from one scource to use for the needs of another. I feel there is another reality where beings create their own energy from within; transmuting scouce energy into creataion. In other words it doesn’t have to be taken from trees or animals or natural rescources.

[Trisher]

I am pondering the way life might be in the "New World". That is really just a term for living in an awakened state on a high vibrational planet. In the moment/Now, out of the matrix etc.with everyone else doing it also.

I can only say how I might see the potential of what could be from my own perspective because that is what I have. I can listen to what others perceive and say but I am looking from this stand point.

I can see a perfectly balanced planet with thriving wildlife and nature. Everything and everybody treating and treated with respect and kindness and coming from the heart. The seas and rivers would sparkle with life and the sky would once again be deep blue. Nature would not scurry away in fear. People would be playful and happy and any problems seen as a way to grow into yet more expansive consciousness. Creating from visualizing and intent would be the normal run of things. There would be no lack.

Reeling it back to this moment I look at what is right Now. I know only that to reach that I have to start right here and now to Be that. I do feel it rising deep within and I feel it rising in Gaia. I only know that whatever it is for everyone individually and collectively it will come through into a new/ancient way of Being and Doing. There is a depth of gratitude and excitement at what we are on the cusp of.

Trisher:heart:

[EFO]

Harmony, that was great post re Bentov's Gateway objectives,to expand human consciousness to transcend the space-time dimension.:flower:

Thanks EFO for posting his book on the "Interesting Free Books in PDF" thread.


Harmony, with regards to Bentov's Gateway objectives; Do you think EMF's might interfere with the role of resonance, brain stimulation and energy entrainment to earth and therefore disrupt transcendence of the space-time dimension?

From Dr Edward Group, research suggests,

EMF'S Derails Brain Function

Just as the Danish high schoolers noticed concerns with concentration, scientists have begun to look at the impact of 4G radiation on brain function. Using MRI technology, research performed just last year found that persons exposed to 4G radiation had several areas of reduced brain activity. [7

EMF's Provoke Cardiac Stress

If you think your heart races when surrounded by wireless networks or 3G or LTE cell phones, it may not be in your head. A study involving 69 subjects reported that many of them experienced a real physical response to electromagnetic frequencies. Exactly what was the physical response? Increased heart rate — similar to the heart rate of an individual under stress. [14]

EMF's a suppression of the expanding of human consciousness to transcend space-time?


Thank you for the great rescources Zirconian. And all the great thoughts posted.


Yes, I would agree the microbiome in our bodies would create a healthier and more balanced body. In turn that should IMHO be more in harmony with a natural human blueprint to work in conjunction with earths resonance.


When you think of how studies have shown how mycellium is like the communication neuron synapses in a brain, where by forests and life forms communicate, it seems like miocrobiome may be similar.


Vibratory frequency of our cells, in conjunction with the rest of our whole make up, seems to play a big part in the frequency reaonance during meditation etc., or by other means, of naturally affecting our relationship with the frequencies of the earth that is resonating relative to the universe and so on.


I’m wondering if humans can change with the changes happening in our environment. As it seems with planetarty changes over millenia or cosmic changes, they would affect earth and maybe there is some sort of automatic default that brings us into some natural entrainment.


I am looking forward to hearing Aoibhghaire’s ideas on possible ways that may help with EMF.


Studies do show that our cellular resonance is affected by EMF so it must change us in an unnatural way.


Here is an article: Conscousness in the Universe is Tuned by Musical Master Code: A Hydrodynamic Superfluid Qantum Space Guides a Conformal Mental Attribut of Reality.
You can download a bood with great CGI illustraations and good information about cells and how they can be affected by EMF.


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338147415_Consciousness_in_the_Universe_is_Tuned_b y_a_Musical_Master_Code_A_Hydrodynamic_Superfluid_ Quantum_Space_Guides_a_Conformal_Mental_Attribute_ of_Reality_The_Hard_Problem_in_Consciousness_Studi es_Revisit


“3.1 EMF Frequencies of Water Reflect Coherent Quantum Information of the GM-scale Water is quantum coherent under ordinary conditions, according to a quantum electrodynamics field theory that may explain many of its most paradoxical properties including life itself (Vitiello, 2001; Jibu and Yasue, 1995; Umezawa, 1993). Quantum fluctuations and coupling between matter and electromagnetic field in Quantum Electro Dynamics (QED), predicts quantum coherence for liquid water even under ordinary temperatures and pressures, according to Del Giudice, (2009, 2010). This theory suggests that interaction between the vacuum electromagnetic field and liquid water induces the formation of large, stable coherent domains (CDs) of about 100 nm in diameter at ambient conditions, and these CDs may be responsible for all the special properties of water including life itself (Fig. 4). Nowadays, it is expected in the biological community that life originated in water and that the multitude of organisms found their habitat in it. Water provides the medium in which all biochemical reactions take place. The importance of water to living organisms originates from its peculiar features including the solvent properties, its high specific heat capacity, as well as its high latent heat of vaporization. Water owes these unique properties to the polarity (dipole character) of its constituent molecules and in particular to the ability to form hydrogen bonds internally and with other molecules. In this view, water is seen as an active medium where the principle of coherent information starts from inanimate liquid systems up to highly organized organisms (Jerman, 2016). Namely, contemporary quantum field theory does not only unveil life as a profoundly electromagnetic phenomenon, it maintains that all liquids including water have special electromagnetic properties involving coherence.”


If we are in a holographic matrix within time-space reality bubble what does that mean?j


Is it a learning place to see what cause and effect consequences occour?


Can we change our holographic matrix reality? And what might we have observed that needs changing?


Are we being manipulated to benefit another groups agenda?


Is there a time we understand the matrix needs changing and how is it done?


How the vibration of “love” can transend vibratory restrictions




It seems this matrix is built upon energy being aquired from one scource to use for the needs of another. I feel there is another reality where beings create their own energy from within; transmuting scouce energy into creataion. In other words it doesn’t have to be taken from trees or animals or natural rescources.

Related to your article:
Water, Cells, and Life | Dr. Gerald Pollack | TEDxNewYorkSalon
(13:38 min.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9UC0chfXcg

One of my simple experiments:
As we all know.water are flowing in pipes losing its energy.If a hose is connected to the end of the pipe and turn on the water the simple way the reenergize the water is to let it flow in a barrel or bucket giving it a clockwise movement as you look at it.It will form a whirlpool and as faster the water running the more intense its energy will be.If you keep the hose at a 45 degrees angle related to water surface,even better.Adding 528 Hz water resonant frequency it will improve more its energy :)

Very interesting questions Harmony! and deserve a detailed answer for each of them.

Can we change our holographic matrix reality?
A short reply:
Yes,not to much,but yes.

EDIT...

I always wanted these days to answer to thread question,but I always forgot and now I remembered:
In this material form,no with some exception/s.We are to "heavy" to jump out,like a boulder on the bottom of the ocean.

[Trisher]

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This is a video from Sadh Guru on how to treat water for optimum health benefits and complements the above posts from Harmony and EFO.

Trisher

[Trisher]

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This is a beautiful video from Christina Von Dreien. This is her message.

«Peace is not a state that simply arises all of a sudden. Peace is a decision – made by every single person, extending to all countries.»
We all want peace in and for the world. It is time for us to understand: we are responsible for the earth. We as citizens are the ones who will bring change to the world. If we really want peace in the world, then we should understand that the prerequisite for outer peace is inner peace.

It is time that we encounter the violence in the world with love and that we live from our hearts. Our hearts are nothing but love, which expresses itself as truth, embodies itself as a human being, feels like joy and lives as freedom.
«Peace is not a state that simply arises all of a sudden. Peace is a decision – made by every single person, extending to all countries.»
The key to peace is not politics – we are, as citizens of the world. The moment the hearts of a group of people beat in the same rhythm, focused on peace and light for this world, the gates of peace and freedom are opened to the whole of humankind.

We have free will. Therefore, it is up to us whether we want to say YES to peace and begin living peace, or whether we are still hesitant. If we say YES to peace and begin to act like peace, then we begin to change the world. It is important for us to understand that every little action has an impact. We are all interconnected in the energy field of humanity. Each person who undertakes some small act of peace at home on the physical plane, sends this action to the global humanity-field, adding a further spark of peace to this field.

The key to peace and freedom for humanity lies in the common orientation of our hearts. The key to a shared orientation is to live what we carry in our hearts. The more people live their hearts, the more this ability, this information will flow into the humanity-field. And the more this grows in the humanity-field, the easier it will be for those still to come.

Every person who lives their heart kindles the fire of love, and helps to light the still dark torches so that everyone has the chance to carry the fire of love within and pass through the gates of peace and freedom. For peace in the outer world begins with peace within. Every human being is thus called to embody their own heart in their life, in order to anchor love, truth and freedom here and to let peace arise and the fire of love shine.

Below are some suggestions that will help you take your own and thus the global vibration to a new level, enabling peace to manifest – on both a small and large scale.

1. Say yes to your life. It is an honour to be here as a human being.

2. Do not seek your truth in the outer world, but within.

3. Realize that every act of peace, no matter how small, is woven into a global energy field. This is how you can make a direct contribution to world peace.

4. Let love come into your life in all its different forms, such as: gratitude, joy, acceptance, forgiveness, honesty.

5. Be grateful and recognize the value of every second of both your past and present.

6. Feel your heart and live it, follow the impulse of your heart. Your heart guides you in the truth of the moment to where it is right for you now.

7. Give yourself the right to contact the Source of Creation.

8. Meet children at eye-level.

9. Do not resonate with actions not based on light.

10. Be aware that everything you send out will fall back on you.

11. Forgive all the people who are now in your life or have been in the past.

12. Respect the free will of all fellow human beings, regardless of their nationality and appearance.

13. Do what you enjoy and love doing. Love yourself.

14. Live your vocation.

15. Live the change in yourself and your life that you would like to see in the world.

16. You can either accept or change a situation that is no longer in accordance with your divine good – or create a better one.

17. Honour nature and recognize her beauty.

18. Turn away from any media channels that pull you down, and engage only with positive things.

19. Nurture the relationship with people that do you good.

20. Listen to what your body tells you, and be aware that any physical illness always has its source in your mental and/or emotional life.

21. Once you are in your heart, your vibration immediately increases. You do not have to do more than this.

22. Do not harm any living being by either thought, word or deed.

23. Love is the most transformative force that exists in the world. Use it and face all violence with love and compassion.

24. Your voice changes the world. We live in the world and share responsibility for it.

:heart:
Trisher

[Harmony]

Trisher and EFO, thank you so much for the videos on water and it’s properties and memory retaining qualities, and recharging energy within the cell abilities. Zirconian, thank you for the information on the Importance of microbiome as part of our natural system and connection to earth.


So it seems we know our bodies are a part of the planet and work with the planet and everything else within our time/space hologram matrix. If we are beings that want to work with our natural systems and “really be” the essence of love, compassion and fulfillment through the illumination of our consciousness and bodies, to be true stewards of earth in balance with our environment for the benefit of all, there “seems” to be a problem.


The problem being not everyone is on the same page with that intent. It appears there is a great divide on the direction of how some want to move forward. It is likely, as many are aware, the way forward for some is not in alignment with a loving heart.


Over quite some period of time, it has become apparant beings or people with control through means of technology and possible hidden knowledge have taken a fork in the road without the knowledge or consent of the average person.


So, we are back to the matrix and EMF and too many other technologies and manipulations to list.
How can that great divide be bridged or transcended. I can’t say for sure, but the control net seems to be closing in faster than ever.


Many have been leading lives to the best of their abilites and as close to nature as possible, but the problems lie in others cooperating at the same time. Here is an example that I can personally give. All my life I have tried to be a steward of the earth for animals and forests. Each time you save an area of sanctuary for all beings and life, it becomes a postage stamp in the enormity of the destruction of the surrounding landscape, it can not exist on it’s own and must then be artificially supported.


Every good intention matters despite the outcome, of that I feel on a deep level. The richness and wisdom of experience IMHO will leave or create an imprint on our higher consciousness.

Trying to bring balance through practices that can exponentially create frequencies that are conducive to positive change, I think, is what we are trying to undertake to help all beings. Greybeard brought attention to David Hawkins research on consciousness and what qualities that usually exist within certain field. Using that same theory, could a more evolved world naturally follow if frequencies pertaining to more spiritually evolved society is possible to initiate?

[Trisher]

Trisher and EFO, thank you so much for the videos on water and it’s properties and memory retaining qualities, and recharging energy within the cell abilities. Zirconian, thank you for the information on the Importance of microbiome as part of our natural system and connection to earth.


So it seems we know our bodies are a part of the planet and work with the planet and everything else within our time/space hologram matrix. If we are beings that want to work with our natural systems and “really be” the essence of love, compassion and fulfillment through the illumination of our consciousness and bodies, to be true stewards of earth in balance with our environment for the benefit of all, there “seems” to be a problem.


The problem being not everyone is on the same page with that intent. It appears there is a great divide on the direction of how some want to move forward. It is likely, as many are aware, the way forward for some is not in alignment with a loving heart.


Over quite some period of time, it has become apparant beings or people with control through means of technology and possible hidden knowledge have taken a fork in the road without the knowledge or consent of the average person.


So, we are back to the matrix and EMF and too many other technologies and manipulations to list.
How can that great divide be bridged or transcended. I can’t say for sure, but the control net seems to be closing in faster than ever.


Many have been leading lives to the best of their abilites and as close to nature as possible, but the problems lie in others cooperating at the same time. Here is an example that I can personally give. All my life I have tried to be a steward of the earth for animals and forests. Each time you save an area of sanctuary for all beings and life, it becomes a postage stamp in the enormity of the destruction of the surrounding landscape, it can not exist on it’s own and must then be artificially supported.


Every good intention matters despite the outcome, of that I feel on a deep level. The richness and wisdom of experience IMHO will leave or create an imprint on our higher consciousness.

Trying to bring balance through practices that can exponentially create frequencies that are conducive to positive change, I think, is what we are trying to undertake to help all beings. Greybeard brought attention to David Hawkins research on consciousness and what qualities that usually exist within certain field. Using that same theory, could a more evolved world naturally follow if frequencies pertaining to more spiritually evolved society is possible to initiate?

Thank you Harmony for your thoughtful post. I do not have the answers to your questions apart from knowing that each and everyone has to do this for themselves by Being it. How many have to Be it before the tipping point is reached I have no idea.

The good thing is that people are already this. Its not something they have to learn from scratch. Its a matter of dissolving the blinkers and Being what they are. Each has freewill and each will choose in their own time.

I too have a wild and nurtured garden. My neighbour stripped every bush and tree out of their large plot felling a huge ancient tree in the process. I planted many more on my side. Then they started in on the ancient woodland at the back. This alerted several of the other neighbours and they were stopped. At some point there will be a balancing because what you put out you do indeed seem to get back. We are also given many clues. I had a friend who frequently saw light streaming from their hands in the dark. Through that they realised they were more than they thought possible.

The many leading the way are making it easier for those that want to follow. :flower:


Trisher

[Zirconian]

Many thanks Harmony for your 2 excellent posts.:heart:

I will reply to your considered an pertinent questions, they are important, as they do reflect the theme of this thread and as such require a thoughtful response which needs time for a reply which I don't have right now. However, my post below may answer a few of those questions.

Trisher your Christina Von Drieien post was very synchronistic, and wonderful to read. :flower:

I would like to illustrate, drawing from a recent experience, how moving into a heart space through the persistent use of qualities such as gratitude, forgiveness, openness and from these qualities and the subsequent raising of frequencies, will eventually ensure a response from source and how being more source can positively effect others.

We are all connected.

Source is there to be revealed within everyone's heart. It is not just for the chosen few.

To reveal source we need to clear suppressions, whether suppressions are from negative thinking or from technology which may mean significantly reducing our use of it or returning to ethernet rather than WIFI etc.

So a clear environment and receptive heart is 1 key.

For an excellent example of clearing and which I now use in addition to others, I have reposted Trishers post.


Those that want to raise their frequencies I have found a very effective and thorough list in the Christina Von Dreien Book Three. This cannot be done from the mind..more an open heart state. A quiet meditative calm state helps.

This cleansing should to be done whilst connected to Source/higher self..all that is..whatever name you have for it and however you connect to it

A simple way is to visualize a light going up through the body and out from the top of your head and then reaching a large golden ball. This ball is visualised as being Source. There is really no defined method. Whatever you feel is right for you then go with it. Once connected to source you can start to clear all the things that are no longer in your highest divine good. You can ask for example that all contracts that are no longer in your highest divine good are dissolved. However you must also ask that all saved and backup copies with all energetic imprints and side effects get removed as these, if left, can reinstall whatever it is you are trying to dissolve. You may or may not feel things have been dissolved as far as they can. Trust that it is so. However, some things may not be dissolved if you are still in need of them for learning.

Through clearing something from the energy field you leaves holes..gaps ..spaces..these should be filled with unconditional love. You need to ask specifically for what you want and request that Source do this. You are asking for Source to do all this work..you are not using your energy to dissolve things. Once you have cleared all you want to in a session then flood yourself with thankfulness.

In connection to this it is important to note that the body cells store not only experiences from our soul but also above and beyond that the collective experiences of our ancestors. This includes the experiences, ideas and patterns of our mother and father as well as their forebears. Thus we inherit from our ancestors an immense amount of cell memory which may not be in our highest divine good. These inherited things can be dissolved in the same way as those above. Asking for eg entanglements, patterns, restrictions, blockages, illnesses and suffering etc to be cleared .

This is a starter list of things that most will have some of. It is recommended that it be done on a daily basis as we have layers of things to clear.

Treaties, agreements, alliances, packages, contracts
Oaths, promises, vows
Shocks, traumas
Thought patterns such as beliefs, ideas, worldviews.
Destructive emotional patterns such as fear patterns, guilt patterns, anger patterns, hate patterns. Dislikes, things created through Imagination
Attachments
Karmic burdens
Generational burdens
Initiations, sacraments
Curse, curses, damnations, bans
Energetic blockades, blockings, downgrades, seals and armour.
Mental programs, manipulation, brainwashing, disinformation, coding.
Entities, attachments, parasitic entities, overshadowing by entities. possesion
Foreign energies from people, that through thinking, emotions and words are actively connected to us (e.g. by thinking about us or talking about us)
Projections from other people (i.e. from our ideas that we have and express to others)
Astral constructs (energies programmed with certain commands)
Astral nails, screws, chains, shackles
Holograms. Energy twists, energy reversals, energy vampires
Physical or energetic implants (microchips, transmitters, receivers, switches, timers, nanobots, chemtrail toxins etc)
Vaccines and foetal consciousness within the vaccine because of the way it is made
Animal consciousness from eating meat.

Once clear, the heart then needs to be open and expansive through compassion & gratitude.

The heart really responds and expands in nature.

Source is now starting to outshine environmental/technological suppressions (almost …..not quite yet.....we need to help nature with this).

Humans can move into resonance with nature and be supported by nature in unveiling source within.

Make sure the environment you choose to resonate with source, is clear from masts.

Ask for source downloads.


I'm not sure whether it is because I'm focusing on this thread (what you focus on you receive), pondering on the matrix or because I've been following Christina's suggestions for clearing but recently, I've been experiencing more source downloads and they are different.

They feel like fine liquid and with them, I feel very relaxed, peaceful with a gentle emptiness within, I'm not feeling as much EMF's. More dissolving of suppressions perhaps?

These new downloads have proven to be very helpful with others.

A friend in deep distress asked me if I could do some healing. The distress had been ongoing for a long time.

I don't do so much healing now as I end up clearing the WIFI body, (the new feature in the human energy field) which suggests that many humans are now fully resonant with EMFs rather than Gaia. Clearing the WIFI body is not pleasant, I feel that I'm boiling from the inside.

Because of the distress, I agreed. I sent my friend the Christina clearing before the healing and I did the healing remotely, giving my friend instructions and a time to tune in. I sent her the new source downloads.

My friend has just stated that for the first time in the longest time she feels deep peace and a joy and this has held over the days and not dissipated with day to day thoughts and living.

We all can do this, helping ourselves and others sending source frequencies into the connected whole.

We can all raise our frequencies above the suppressions above the matrix, to create a new world. Full of source potentials for new creations.

Just try it.:flower:

[TomKat]

I recently heard them talking about "non-playing characters" (NPC) of our matrix on a Beyond the Veil podcast interview with George Kavasillas. It's the idea that there are two types of people, the players and the background characters, aka, those with and without the divine spark. Supposedly Blavatsky talked about this, and the bible referred to them as men and children of men. People are apparently referring to people who are placidly going along with the globalist agenda as non-playing characters.

[Mashika]

I recently heard them talking about "non-playing characters" (NPC) of our matrix on a Beyond the Veil podcast interview with George Kavasillas. It's the idea that there are two types of people, the players and the background characters, aka, those with and without the divine spark. Supposedly Blavatsky talked about this, and the bible referred to them as men and children of men. People are apparently referring to people who are placidly going along with the globalist agenda as non-playing characters.

Yeah, some people have used that specific hypothesis to create a cult around it, where "NPCs" can be treated as animals or worse, because they don't have any feelings and even feelings of pain or thoughts or caring, when coming from them, are "pre-programmed and fake", There are some cults like QuartzCrystal that brainwash people with this idea

They look for people who are at their weakest point in life, or with some mental health issues, then they say "you are just so special that the NPCs are trying to kill you, because you are a source player, this world and everything around it was built for you to enjoy, but most people here are fake, those who harm you are without soul (NPC), but you have salvation in our founder!"

And then you have to go through hypnosis sessions so that you get cleared of the "sin", or as it was put here, "remove the programming of the matrix"

Once you do that, you have to pay some cash, but only as a "donation" because no one asked you to do it. But if you don't, then you are rejected by all members of the "club" (cult) plus you stop received more "knowledge" from the Matrix, because you can only receive it from the saver of humanity, the creator of the cult of "Quartz Crystal" of course

As i posted before, all that stuff was picked up from Dolores Cannon, in the book series "The Convoluted Universe", Book #5 i believe. I had a small nice chat with Dolores Cannon some time ago and she was very interested in how those people continually tried to use her mother's work to mislead people and get money. But the funniest thing was she said she did not care much, because as long as her mother's real word was out these people were mostly working for free.

And yep, because if you realize once they have gone through all the stuff Dolores Cannon put out there, then they run out of wisdom or ideas and start posting very meaningless stuff Or create threads around forums to ask people what they think, so they can gather some ideas before the followers cut the Patreon off

Unfortunately my life has lead me into knowing that there's no much time to spend running around the bushes, so you must be direct and say it as it is because you don't ever know if next moment you may still be alive. And when you care to let other people know what you have found, you must speak up as soon as possible, because of reason said above, what do? Nothing but sound direct and harsh, most times, and i'm sorry for that but i got used to just yell directions and truths, without regard of feelings

This is a very dumb situation for sure LOL, on one side it's always trying to look at life in the most nice way, believing it will make your life beautiful and peaceful

On the other hand, looking away at the truth, and working on tons and tons of abstracted concepts, leads you to not have a clue of reality

Just like watching a movie and seeing a guy getting shot 2/3/4 times and still get up and fight back and win the battle and admire him for his great effort and such. Complete lack of understanding of Gaia, the real world, and our own souls and purposes plus what knowledge really means for a soul, and not what a brain perceives as knowledge

Do with this as you may, but the truth is always just a bit far away than the finger can touch, in the artificial shadows :P

[Mashika]

Dear Mashika,

I'm truly sorry for the incident and for your feelings and perhaps you will reconsider your opinion even if I understand you 3 min. zen. :)

Just think to only that it will be possible that at one point this thread will bring interesting info...

I don't insist for Zirconian,I insist for INFORMATION TO BE SPREAD and reach sheeple's ears.Woould you be agree with that?Many thanks.

Yeah i get that, unfortunately this valuable information you all are sharing here, will most likely be used to build a cult or at least a narrative to lead other people into a dead end, i have tons of experience dealing with people who "have some hidden special knowledge but can't talk about it and still require you to disclose your personal knowledge for no reason at all but to give him notes into how to fake wisdom to other people unaware of what's going on"

And i have already seen all the usual red flags here, but i don't want to point them because i know he already did the "she's not on the right frequency" game

It's so worthless this thread, all you and me gave him was notes to reformat and reword so that it becomes helpful for some random cult or online scam

Time will tell, but that he refused to answer clearly at first clearly shows he did not want to share, he wanted to grab

It's all in your end guys, i't just ridiculous to see the clear obvious red flags and it seems no one cares, oh well

Also see my post above this one. Just because sometimes i act like an idiot doesn't mean i'm one for real

<3

[Mashika]

From my experience, I'm also interested in how a focus on the health of gut biomes increases a resonance with Gaia.

I have noticed that with attention to gut biome health, the heart expansions and resonance with Gaia (the source in Gaia) also increases.

I call it- the human to Gaia biome resonance. Through this resonance, I feel when I'm in nature I move more into source fields (peace, joy, bliss).

Maybe a move out of the space-time dimension?

Dr Klinghardt studies have shown (I recommend all his work via the Klinghardt Institute), That EMF's modify the human microbiome.


Aterini, Stefano, and Marco Ruggiero. "Electromagnetic Fields." Encyclopedia of Cancer. Springer Berlin Heidelberg, 2011. 1213-1216.
• “However, since we have learned that electromagnetic fields, even of minimal intensity such as the endogenous electromagnetic fields, modify the human microbiome, their effects might be much more complex and far ranging • Considering that the human microbiome is involved in the development and function of all other organs and systems, and most notably the immune system (Palm et al. 2015), alteration of the microbiome may be one of the mechanisms through which electromagnetic fields, both endogenous and exogenous, exert their biological effects. • Thus, the effects of electromagnetic fields on the human microbiome open a new perspective in assessing the risks for health and in preventing them. • Microbes and the microbiome may amplify or mitigate carcinogenesis, responsiveness to cancer therapeutics, and cancer-associated complication (Garrett 2015) and, therefore, electromagnetic fields modifying the microbiome may interfere with all such cancer-related responses. • It is foreseeable that the development of functional foods containing probiotics for the prevention and treatment of cancer will have to take into account the effects of endogenous as well as exogenous electromagnetic fields on the human microbiome.

Another suppression?

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P.S.

I am reading the work re tools. Thanks to all contributors. Very interesting.:clapping:

You seemed to have gone from trying to figuring out if the Matrix was real and how to get away from it, to the normal new wave stuff and Gaia. So if you don't mind, could you explain how the Gaia you have pictured in your mind, is not the fake one created by the Matrix? Seems, by evidence of your own, that you did not really want to discuss it and now are trying to separate yourself from the point of this thread. Maybe i wasn't as off topic as i thought i was

Anyway it's sad that you were unable to answer any of my questions in truth, but just side step it all every single time :)

This is so very familiar to me xi xi

ETA:



Another suppression?

In what sense?

And if we are inside the Matrix, as i said before, all these experiences, even books and such, are created based on the "knowledge" the Matrix itself allows you to have through experiences of your brain and stimulations that fake spiritual and physical experiences as well. So how, fake imaginary body

What do you think about this? IF this would be true, then you could read a million books about it and get nowhere, because it was all put in place for you to spend your time on it, while missing the real stuff from outside (the real source)

Ask me anything if you would like to know more about this problem



I have noticed that with attention to gut biome health, the heart expansions and resonance with Gaia (the source in Gaia) also increases.

Would be for so much benefit for the human kind to know how this understanding was achieved

I hope it has nothing to do with quartz crystal pendulums, would be sad to know it was a biased understanding of the world based on your most close and necessary spiritual needs

[Trisher]

I recently heard them talking about "non-playing characters" (NPC) of our matrix on a Beyond the Veil podcast interview with George Kavasillas. It's the idea that there are two types of people, the players and the background characters, aka, those with and without the divine spark. Supposedly Blavatsky talked about this, and the bible referred to them as men and children of men. People are apparently referring to people who are placidly going along with the globalist agenda as non-playing characters.

There is some basis for this TomKat. I have a friend who frequently came across what might have been these people in London, although I am not suggesting this is the only place they are. When tuning in to them they were "empty"..not void empty but just empty. Nothing in there. These people if they were what you suggest were also overlaid sometimes with entities or had entities coming through them. Then they were not so placid. I always assumed that the background people were just visual fillers and not really of substance so maybe they were some kind of walk in. My friend found them odd energetically and so they stood out in interactions and communications. They rarely if ever expressed a view until taken by an entity.

Trisher

[greybeard]

Whats complicated about this?
If you believe enlightened souls personal experience only the Divine is, the rest is illusion, Maya.
Enlightenment is literally the removal of ignorance --the ignorance being the thought that we are separatein any way.
Self realization is the way out of the illusion -- call it Matrix if that appeals to the mind.
There is no other way that I am aware of.
Chris

[Mashika]

I love that concept of "Maya"

Sometime ago there was this guy who came here and talked about it, without understanding really the entirety of it

He said that Maya should be speaked out backwards, as in "I Am", because of how it is pronounced on English

Unfortunately Maya has nothing to do with English and that relationship is based on a lack of understanding of older languages that existed before English. Because Maya doesn't sound at all, in it's original language, as the English pronunciation

This guy and his friends had based a complete understanding of their cult/world/spirituality on that single mispronounced word

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I recently heard them talking about "non-playing characters" (NPC) of our matrix on a Beyond the Veil podcast interview with George Kavasillas. It's the idea that there are two types of people, the players and the background characters, aka, those with and without the divine spark. Supposedly Blavatsky talked about this, and the bible referred to them as men and children of men. People are apparently referring to people who are placidly going along with the globalist agenda as non-playing characters.

There is some basis for this TomKat. I have a friend who frequently came across what might have been these people in London, although I am not suggesting this is the only place they are. When tuning in to them they were "empty"..not void empty but just empty. Nothing in there. These people if they were what you suggest were also overlaid sometimes with entities or had entities coming through them. Then they were not so placid. I always assumed that the background people were just visual fillers and not really of substance so maybe they were some kind of walk in. My friend found them odd energetically and so they stood out in interactions and communications. They rarely if ever expressed a view until taken by an entity.

Trisher

What do you think of the people who can "see" them and acts in hateful ways around them, because they "don't have a soul", may i show you a couple examples of this behavior? So you can see my point maybe?

But in short, i can say quickly that the idea of some people being NPCs lead some people into thinking you can harm them and should not care about their feelings or pain, because those feelings and pain are "programmed" by the Matrix to show like that and they act as bots that want to trip you, according to their Matrix programming.

And only people with souls can difference them, and only people with souls can be "reprogrammed" or "get the sin removed". there are even videos from some "group" that tell exactly this, that you have to follow them to be "get rid of the sin of the matrix" or some sort of stuff like that

If an idea that some people are lesser and "don't have souls" and can be harmed and destroyed without consequences. As the people from some certain group that continually comes here under fake accounts and in other forums as well, reaches and resonates with you, then there's a bigger problem that discussing if the Matrix is real or not, because it's so very much clear by now that was not what this thread was all about

But whatever, go ahead LOL. It's just very funny to watch this by now

[Trisher]

Many thanks Harmony for your 2 excellent posts.:heart:

I will reply to your considered an pertinent questions, they are important, as they do reflect the theme of this thread and as such require a thoughtful response which needs time for a reply which I don't have right now. However, my post below may answer a few of those questions.

Trisher your Christina Von Drieien post was very synchronistic, and wonderful to read. :flower:

I would like to illustrate, drawing from a recent experience, how moving into a heart space through the persistent use of qualities such as gratitude, forgiveness, openness and from these qualities and the subsequent raising of frequencies, will eventually ensure a response from source and how being more source can positively effect others.

We are all connected.

Source is there to be revealed within everyone's heart. It is not just for the chosen few.

To reveal source we need to clear suppressions, whether suppressions are from negative thinking or from technology which may mean significantly reducing our use of it or returning to ethernet rather than WIFI etc.

So a clear environment and receptive heart is 1 key.

For an excellent example of clearing and which I now use in addition to others, I have reposted Trishers post.


Those that want to raise their frequencies I have found a very effective and thorough list in the Christina Von Dreien Book Three. This cannot be done from the mind..more an open heart state. A quiet meditative calm state helps.

This cleansing should to be done whilst connected to Source/higher self..all that is..whatever name you have for it and however you connect to it

A simple way is to visualize a light going up through the body and out from the top of your head and then reaching a large golden ball. This ball is visualised as being Source. There is really no defined method. Whatever you feel is right for you then go with it. Once connected to source you can start to clear all the things that are no longer in your highest divine good. You can ask for example that all contracts that are no longer in your highest divine good are dissolved. However you must also ask that all saved and backup copies with all energetic imprints and side effects get removed as these, if left, can reinstall whatever it is you are trying to dissolve. You may or may not feel things have been dissolved as far as they can. Trust that it is so. However, some things may not be dissolved if you are still in need of them for learning.

Through clearing something from the energy field you leaves holes..gaps ..spaces..these should be filled with unconditional love. You need to ask specifically for what you want and request that Source do this. You are asking for Source to do all this work..you are not using your energy to dissolve things. Once you have cleared all you want to in a session then flood yourself with thankfulness.

In connection to this it is important to note that the body cells store not only experiences from our soul but also above and beyond that the collective experiences of our ancestors. This includes the experiences, ideas and patterns of our mother and father as well as their forebears. Thus we inherit from our ancestors an immense amount of cell memory which may not be in our highest divine good. These inherited things can be dissolved in the same way as those above. Asking for eg entanglements, patterns, restrictions, blockages, illnesses and suffering etc to be cleared .

This is a starter list of things that most will have some of. It is recommended that it be done on a daily basis as we have layers of things to clear.

Treaties, agreements, alliances, packages, contracts
Oaths, promises, vows
Shocks, traumas
Thought patterns such as beliefs, ideas, worldviews.
Destructive emotional patterns such as fear patterns, guilt patterns, anger patterns, hate patterns. Dislikes, things created through Imagination
Attachments
Karmic burdens
Generational burdens
Initiations, sacraments
Curse, curses, damnations, bans
Energetic blockades, blockings, downgrades, seals and armour.
Mental programs, manipulation, brainwashing, disinformation, coding.
Entities, attachments, parasitic entities, overshadowing by entities. possesion
Foreign energies from people, that through thinking, emotions and words are actively connected to us (e.g. by thinking about us or talking about us)
Projections from other people (i.e. from our ideas that we have and express to others)
Astral constructs (energies programmed with certain commands)
Astral nails, screws, chains, shackles
Holograms. Energy twists, energy reversals, energy vampires
Physical or energetic implants (microchips, transmitters, receivers, switches, timers, nanobots, chemtrail toxins etc)
Vaccines and foetal consciousness within the vaccine because of the way it is made
Animal consciousness from eating meat.

Once clear, the heart then needs to be open and expansive through compassion & gratitude.

The heart really responds and expands in nature.

Source is now starting to outshine environmental/technological suppressions (almost …..not quite yet.....we need to help nature with this).

Humans can move into resonance with nature and be supported by nature in unveiling source within.

Make sure the environment you choose to resonate with source, is clear from masts.

Ask for source downloads.


I'm not sure whether it is because I'm focusing on this thread (what you focus on you receive), pondering on the matrix or because I've been following Christina's suggestions for clearing but recently, I've been experiencing more source downloads and they are different.

They feel like fine liquid and with them, I feel very relaxed, peaceful with a gentle emptiness within, I'm not feeling as much EMF's. More dissolving of suppressions perhaps?

These new downloads have proven to be very helpful with others.

A friend in deep distress asked me if I could do some healing. The distress had been ongoing for a long time.

I don't do so much healing now as I end up clearing the WIFI body, (the new feature in the human energy field) which suggests that many humans are now fully resonant with EMFs rather than Gaia. Clearing the WIFI body is not pleasant, I feel that I'm boiling from the inside.

Because of the distress, I agreed. I sent my friend the Christina clearing before the healing and I did the healing remotely, giving my friend instructions and a time to tune in. I sent her the new source downloads.

My friend has just stated that for the first time in the longest time she feels deep peace and a joy and this has held over the days and not dissipated with day to day thoughts and living.

We all can do this, helping ourselves and others sending source frequencies into the connected whole.

We can all raise our frequencies above the suppressions above the matrix, to create a new world. Full of source potentials for new creations.

Just try it.:flower:

Thank you Zirconian. I do believe that clearing is a must to merge with source/all that is. Each of us has that divine spark and however we wish to access what is within we do need to be clear of "baggage". It is not enough to know we want to. We really do have to commit to the "doing" as well as the "Being".

Trisher :heart:

[EFO]

Yeah, some people have used that specific hypothesis to create a cult around it, where "NPCs" can be treated as animals or worse, because they don't have any feelings and even feelings of pain or thoughts or caring, when coming from them, are "pre-programmed and fake", There are some cults like QuartzCrystal that brainwash people with this idea

They look for people who are at their weakest point in life, or with some mental health issues, then they say "you are just so special that the NPCs are trying to kill you, because you are a source player, this world and everything around it was built for you to enjoy, but most people here are fake, those who harm you are without soul (NPC), but you have salvation in our founder!"

And then you have to go through hypnosis sessions so that you get cleared of the "sin", or as it was put here, "remove the programming of the matrix"

Once you do that, you have to pay some cash, but only as a "donation" because no one asked you to do it. But if you don't, then you are rejected by all members of the "club" (cult) plus you stop received more "knowledge" from the Matrix, because you can only receive it from the saver of humanity, the creator of the cult of "Quartz Crystal" of course

As i posted before, all that stuff was picked up from Dolores Cannon, in the book series "The Convoluted Universe", Book #5 i believe. I had a small nice chat with Dolores Cannon some time ago and she was very interested in how those people continually tried to use her mother's work to mislead people and get money. But the funniest thing was she said she did not care much, because as long as her mother's real word was out these people were mostly working for free.

And yep, because if you realize once they have gone through all the stuff Dolores Cannon put out there, then they run out of wisdom or ideas and start posting very meaningless stuff Or create threads around forums to ask people what they think, so they can gather some ideas before the followers cut the Patreon off

Unfortunately my life has lead me into knowing that there's no much time to spend running around the bushes, so you must be direct and say it as it is because you don't ever know if next moment you may still be alive. And when you care to let other people know what you have found, you must speak up as soon as possible, because of reason said above, what do? Nothing but sound direct and harsh, most times, and i'm sorry for that but i got used to just yell directions and truths, without regard of feelings

This is a very dumb situation for sure LOL, on one side it's always trying to look at life in the most nice way, believing it will make your life beautiful and peaceful

On the other hand, looking away at the truth, and working on tons and tons of abstracted concepts, leads you to not have a clue of reality

Just like watching a movie and seeing a guy getting shot 2/3/4 times and still get up and fight back and win the battle and admire him for his great effort and such. Complete lack of understanding of Gaia, the real world, and our own souls and purposes plus what knowledge really means for a soul, and not what a brain perceives as knowledge

Do with this as you may, but the truth is always just a bit far away than the finger can touch, in the artificial shadows :P

Based on "NPC's" stuff I would add my dream:
In that dream I was lead,by a girl friend of mine from my teen age,through a hypermarket basement showing me three sort of people that worked on conveyor belts packing food.Showing me and walking through that scene she told me that:"These ones are prepared to be dead." and they looked normal but doesn't have reaction/s;"These ones are half dead" - these looked,moved and react like zombies in the movies,but worst than them and:"These are are dead." and they looked like dead people,moving with inert movements.

From that dream I understand visually how the actual system is preparing specific humans for different tasks.The highest the echelon is the dead they are...Most of them voluntarily stay in line waiting their beautiful and shinny wrapped packages and to jump into the grinder :)

And you are right,we have no time running around the bushes and YES,TRUTH INDEED HURT;I lost "friends" and cursed by people telling them the truth.That's life...don't care...:)



Dear Mashika,

I'm truly sorry for the incident and for your feelings and perhaps you will reconsider your opinion even if I understand you 3 min. zen. :)

Just think to only that it will be possible that at one point this thread will bring interesting info...

I don't insist for Zirconian,I insist for INFORMATION TO BE SPREAD and reach sheeple's ears.Woould you be agree with that?Many thanks.

Yeah i get that, unfortunately this valuable information you all are sharing here, will most likely be used to build a cult or at least a narrative to lead other people into a dead end, i have tons of experience dealing with people who "have some hidden special knowledge but can't talk about it and still require you to disclose your personal knowledge for no reason at all but to give him notes into how to fake wisdom to other people unaware of what's going on"

And i have already seen all the usual red flags here, but i don't want to point them because i know he already did the "she's not on the right frequency" game

It's so worthless this thread, all you and me gave him was notes to reformat and reword so that it becomes helpful for some random cult or online scam

Time will tell, but that he refused to answer clearly at first clearly shows he did not want to share, he wanted to grab

It's all in your end guys, i't just ridiculous to see the clear obvious red flags and it seems no one cares, oh well

Also see my post above this one. Just because sometimes i act like an idiot doesn't mean i'm one for real

<3

Glad you're back!

Don't mind to much about what kind of sect or cult will rose from what we are writing here,but do mind about humans that will understand and avoid falling in trap/s.Reading your posts here,I simply see myself at your age,thinking to fast than spoken or writing.At my 22 I was so sneaky smart,that giving exam for police commissioned officers school, I finished 6 IQ tests in less than 45 min.The medium grades officers from examination commission was baffled and told me if I didn't want to go to Police Academy and after ending the studies to have a special post in Intelligence services.I refused.I only wanted to have a warm and without to much responsibilities job.

From that event and other previous similar I understand that I have to slow down my way of fast thinking and now I reached the point in which is hard for me to figure it out the result of 1+1 :rofl:

I gave you this simple example because not the time have to give answers,even if is told so,but ourselves.

Now,I want to see your red flags here.It's a forum and we all have the right to talk keeping decency.It's not a provocation from my behalf and you don't have to reply to this.Thank you.

[Harmony]

Many thanks Harmony for your 2 excellent posts.:heart:

I will reply to your considered an pertinent questions, they are important, as they do reflect the theme of this thread and as such require a thoughtful response which needs time for a reply which I don't have right now. However, my post below may answer a few of those questions.

Trisher your Christina Von Drieien post was very synchronistic, and wonderful to read. :flower:

I would like to illustrate, drawing from a recent experience, how moving into a heart space through the persistent use of qualities such as gratitude, forgiveness, openness and from these qualities and the subsequent raising of frequencies, will eventually ensure a response from source and how being more source can positively effect others.

We are all connected.

Source is there to be revealed within everyone's heart. It is not just for the chosen few.

To reveal source we need to clear suppressions, whether suppressions are from negative thinking or from technology which may mean significantly reducing our use of it or returning to ethernet rather than WIFI etc.

So a clear environment and receptive heart is 1 key.

For an excellent example of clearing and which I now use in addition to others, I have reposted Trishers post.


Those that want to raise their frequencies I have found a very effective and thorough list in the Christina Von Dreien Book Three. This cannot be done from the mind..more an open heart state. A quiet meditative calm state helps.

This cleansing should to be done whilst connected to Source/higher self..all that is..whatever name you have for it and however you connect to it

A simple way is to visualize a light going up through the body and out from the top of your head and then reaching a large golden ball. This ball is visualised as being Source. There is really no defined method. Whatever you feel is right for you then go with it. Once connected to source you can start to clear all the things that are no longer in your highest divine good. You can ask for example that all contracts that are no longer in your highest divine good are dissolved. However you must also ask that all saved and backup copies with all energetic imprints and side effects get removed as these, if left, can reinstall whatever it is you are trying to dissolve. You may or may not feel things have been dissolved as far as they can. Trust that it is so. However, some things may not be dissolved if you are still in need of them for learning.

Through clearing something from the energy field you leaves holes..gaps ..spaces..these should be filled with unconditional love. You need to ask specifically for what you want and request that Source do this. You are asking for Source to do all this work..you are not using your energy to dissolve things. Once you have cleared all you want to in a session then flood yourself with thankfulness.......






.......I'm not sure whether it is because I'm focusing on this thread (what you focus on you receive), pondering on the matrix or because I've been following Christina's suggestions for clearing but recently, I've been experiencing more source downloads and they are different.

They feel like fine liquid and with them, I feel very relaxed, peaceful with a gentle emptiness within, I'm not feeling as much EMF's. More dissolving of suppressions perhaps?

These new downloads have proven to be very helpful with others.

A friend in deep distress asked me if I could do some healing. The distress had been ongoing for a long time.

I don't do so much healing now as I end up clearing the WIFI body, (the new feature in the human energy field) which suggests that many humans are now fully resonant with EMFs rather than Gaia. Clearing the WIFI body is not pleasant, I feel that I'm boiling from the inside.

Because of the distress, I agreed. I sent my friend the Christina clearing before the healing and I did the healing remotely, giving my friend instructions and a time to tune in. I sent her the new source downloads.

My friend has just stated that for the first time in the longest time she feels deep peace and a joy and this has held over the days and not dissipated with day to day thoughts and living.

We all can do this, helping ourselves and others sending source frequencies into the connected whole.

We can all raise our frequencies above the suppressions above the matrix, to create a new world. Full of source potentials for new creations.

Just try it.:flower:




Zirconian and Trisher, Thank you for sharing about your experiences concerning meditation, clearing ancestral and collective experiences and making sure through your own volition choosing to steer your own healing. :flower:


I really enjoyed checking out the new thread EFO started “Dive with music into bliss and peacefulness”. Different methods that help us to step into our heart connection can be a stepping stone to get out of the “mind” and experience that great stillness that encompasses all.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111680-Dive-with-music-into-bliss-and-peacefulness&p=1370523&viewfull=1#post1370523
The link regarding pitch-to-color Calculator I found really Interesting “The Color of Sound” with nice illustrations too.:heart:


I have found similar ways of connecting, mostly through self experimentation. Beginning with quieting the mind, making sure your body is totally relaxed, (for me it was lying down in a comfortable position) being the vibration of love, peace, compassion, everything I would want to be offered to myself in life. Keeping awareness centered (with relaxed eyes in centre position) in head which I believe keeps the mind out of the past (left) and the future (right). Practice slowing breathing to slow tiny breath, which will come naturally. For me it only works with no other person in room or house, no phones, no schedule. Surprisingly, my dog would lie beside my bed during meditation, in the past, and would stay very quiet and would wait until my eyes were open again, like she knew what was happening (she was nosrmally robustful. And then steering conciousness, a lot like you have explained, and enter into a beautiful energetic space. Everyone will experience different journeys from there.


Dear Zirconian,:flower: thank you for sharing you experiences in healing. The WIFI resonant entrainment is something I have wondered about. I recall hearing about possible nano dust and chemtrails, the connection being a possibility in create such a scenario. It is indeed concerning.


I do like hearing about personal experiences, as science and spirituality do meet everywhere.:heart::heart:

[Ernie Nemeth]

Unlike the vast majority, if you want to get out of the matrix - don't take the blue pill!

[Zirconian]

Harmony,

Really enjoy reading your quality posts.:heart::flower:

[Zirconian]

The mind is often tricky
Sometimes you can feel so justified with an opinion
However, in that state......I often pause....and ask myself...
Am I justified?
Until I know.
Best to stay open.
Good for the heart space.:heart:

[Trisher]

The mind is often tricky
Sometimes you can feel so justified with an opinion
However, in that state......I often pause....and ask myself...
Am I justified?
Until I know.
Best to stay open.
Good for the heart space.:heart:

There is much to be said for the moment of Now. Staying present is not easy with an active mind. We lose the ability to feel the truth when thinking absorbs us. The Matrix can also be said to be thinking and reactions to thinking.

I remember visiting Mother Meera. The hall was packed with seated people and those working their way up the aisles to then sit in front of her. Suddenly there was a break in the flow and the calm and the people that help Mother Meera were forcing someone off the chair in the front and he was trying to explain he had not looked into her eyes. That was the point. Just to spend a few seconds looking into her eyes. He had apparently had his allotted time.

Everyone was shocked as he was physically forced to move away. Next day he was allowed time to sit in front of her for a full 5 minutes. Usually it is far shorter than that. He had MS and had not been able to move as fast as others. The helpers had made a false judgement in the heat of the moment but the lesson was learned by all present.

Trisher

[Harmony]

We are natural explorers sharing our experiences. Finding similarities and self discovering in the physical, mental and spiritual realms of our seen and unseen world and beyond. Connecting our dots and trying to see where we “fit” in our reality and how our consciousness and perceptions play a part in how we choose to drive our individual and collective journey.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

Even though most folk probably have seen this TED talk with Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor, I would encourage you to watch it again. There are some deep important insights within her well expressed experience and research of how brains, perceptions and reality may function.


“I pictured the world filled with beautiful people. Compassionate people who could come to this space anytime and they could purposely choose to step to the right or left hemisphere and find this peace, what a stroke of insight this could be to how we live our lives.”


…… “Who are we? We are the life force power of the universe”

[Zirconian]

Just finished posting a reply re Dr Jill Bolt and the reply didn't post.
So briefly, I was very moved listening to her story and I am with her picture for the world.
Looking forward to reading more posts.

[Mashika]

Yeah, some people have used that specific hypothesis to create a cult around it, where "NPCs" can be treated as animals or worse, because they don't have any feelings and even feelings of pain or thoughts or caring, when coming from them, are "pre-programmed and fake", There are some cults like QuartzCrystal that brainwash people with this idea

They look for people who are at their weakest point in life, or with some mental health issues, then they say "you are just so special that the NPCs are trying to kill you, because you are a source player, this world and everything around it was built for you to enjoy, but most people here are fake, those who harm you are without soul (NPC), but you have salvation in our founder!"

And then you have to go through hypnosis sessions so that you get cleared of the "sin", or as it was put here, "remove the programming of the matrix"

Once you do that, you have to pay some cash, but only as a "donation" because no one asked you to do it. But if you don't, then you are rejected by all members of the "club" (cult) plus you stop received more "knowledge" from the Matrix, because you can only receive it from the saver of humanity, the creator of the cult of "Quartz Crystal" of course

As i posted before, all that stuff was picked up from Dolores Cannon, in the book series "The Convoluted Universe", Book #5 i believe. I had a small nice chat with Dolores Cannon some time ago and she was very interested in how those people continually tried to use her mother's work to mislead people and get money. But the funniest thing was she said she did not care much, because as long as her mother's real word was out these people were mostly working for free.

And yep, because if you realize once they have gone through all the stuff Dolores Cannon put out there, then they run out of wisdom or ideas and start posting very meaningless stuff Or create threads around forums to ask people what they think, so they can gather some ideas before the followers cut the Patreon off

Unfortunately my life has lead me into knowing that there's no much time to spend running around the bushes, so you must be direct and say it as it is because you don't ever know if next moment you may still be alive. And when you care to let other people know what you have found, you must speak up as soon as possible, because of reason said above, what do? Nothing but sound direct and harsh, most times, and i'm sorry for that but i got used to just yell directions and truths, without regard of feelings

This is a very dumb situation for sure LOL, on one side it's always trying to look at life in the most nice way, believing it will make your life beautiful and peaceful

On the other hand, looking away at the truth, and working on tons and tons of abstracted concepts, leads you to not have a clue of reality

Just like watching a movie and seeing a guy getting shot 2/3/4 times and still get up and fight back and win the battle and admire him for his great effort and such. Complete lack of understanding of Gaia, the real world, and our own souls and purposes plus what knowledge really means for a soul, and not what a brain perceives as knowledge

Do with this as you may, but the truth is always just a bit far away than the finger can touch, in the artificial shadows :P

Based on "NPC's" stuff I would add my dream:
In that dream I was lead,by a girl friend of mine from my teen age,through a hypermarket basement showing me three sort of people that worked on conveyor belts packing food.Showing me and walking through that scene she told me that:"These ones are prepared to be dead." and they looked normal but doesn't have reaction/s;"These ones are half dead" - these looked,moved and react like zombies in the movies,but worst than them and:"These are are dead." and they looked like dead people,moving with inert movements.

From that dream I understand visually how the actual system is preparing specific humans for different tasks.The highest the echelon is the dead they are...Most of them voluntarily stay in line waiting their beautiful and shinny wrapped packages and to jump into the grinder :)

And you are right,we have no time running around the bushes and YES,TRUTH INDEED HURT;I lost "friends" and cursed by people telling them the truth.That's life...don't care...:)



Dear Mashika,

I'm truly sorry for the incident and for your feelings and perhaps you will reconsider your opinion even if I understand you 3 min. zen. :)

Just think to only that it will be possible that at one point this thread will bring interesting info...

I don't insist for Zirconian,I insist for INFORMATION TO BE SPREAD and reach sheeple's ears.Woould you be agree with that?Many thanks.

Yeah i get that, unfortunately this valuable information you all are sharing here, will most likely be used to build a cult or at least a narrative to lead other people into a dead end, i have tons of experience dealing with people who "have some hidden special knowledge but can't talk about it and still require you to disclose your personal knowledge for no reason at all but to give him notes into how to fake wisdom to other people unaware of what's going on"

And i have already seen all the usual red flags here, but i don't want to point them because i know he already did the "she's not on the right frequency" game

It's so worthless this thread, all you and me gave him was notes to reformat and reword so that it becomes helpful for some random cult or online scam

Time will tell, but that he refused to answer clearly at first clearly shows he did not want to share, he wanted to grab

It's all in your end guys, i't just ridiculous to see the clear obvious red flags and it seems no one cares, oh well

Also see my post above this one. Just because sometimes i act like an idiot doesn't mean i'm one for real

<3

Glad you're back!

Don't mind to much about what kind of sect or cult will rose from what we are writing here,but do mind about humans that will understand and avoid falling in trap/s.Reading your posts here,I simply see myself at your age,thinking to fast than spoken or writing.At my 22 I was so sneaky smart,that giving exam for police commissioned officers school, I finished 6 IQ tests in less than 45 min.The medium grades officers from examination commission was baffled and told me if I didn't want to go to Police Academy and after ending the studies to have a special post in Intelligence services.I refused.I only wanted to have a warm and without to much responsibilities job.

From that event and other previous similar I understand that I have to slow down my way of fast thinking and now I reached the point in which is hard for me to figure it out the result of 1+1 :rofl:

I gave you this simple example because not the time have to give answers,even if is told so,but ourselves.

Now,I want to see your red flags here.It's a forum and we all have the right to talk keeping decency.It's not a provocation from my behalf and you don't have to reply to this.Thank you.


However i have not provoked, i have spoken out. If someone felt provoked it's because it hit

I'm a soldier, in soul still, even if i could not keep being in person, you defend life and honest souls, and you prevent damage to others who may not be able to defend themselves. That's all

There's a reason we are born like this, with this strength

I know perfectly well the game that is being played here and it's so funny and sad, because the actual person playing it is rotten inside, and incapable of coming up to the world themselves without lying. IT's so meaningless and sterile

I was going to ask a couple more questions, since it seems this thread turned into Zen and similar stuff, rather than "are we in the Matrix and how to get out". Which i attempted to discuss and was basically replied with useless blanket statements that could fit any previous assessment or ideology (because it was meant to be like that exactly)

If people can't see here the problem, then this applies. But i'm not targeting this to anyone at all, it will apply to those who know it must apply to them

"One becomes a critic when one cannot be an artist, just as a man becomes a stool pigeon when he cannot be a soldier.”

I'm not going to post who wrote that because it would be obvious that anyone can find it in 5 seconds

Just like anyone could have found my other quote about how zen can be understood in 30 years or in 3 minutes and most likely, if they actually knew Zen, would have know that it doesn't mean that you can gain it so soon if you are privileged or smart enough, but no one did called me off on it.

That's how i got so frustrated, because supposedly we are here talking about Zen and other things like new wave stuff, but no one knows this basic aspect of how to grow your soul by "just being". And i'm the "kid" so far

It is "frustrating" to say the least

I like the word Zirconium, it reminds me of beautiful crystals, and crystals remind me of beautiful colors, and colors remind me of beautiful feelings, and beautiful feelings remind me of beautiful views, and beautiful views remind me of beautiful sensations on my skin when i was a baby and my mom touched my face, and that reminds me of other things before.

Crystals are beautiful yep



Glad you're back!

Because as i said, i don't like to ghost people, it's very bad and a lack of respect. If no one ever replies then i won't reply back, no matter what

But i respect you, so if you talk back, even if you don't directly me acknowledge through a quote (which i think should be done out of respect, even basic one) then i will never come back here. Because here there's no room for growth, it's just a "patting in the back" thread, in the end.

I may be dumb and stupid, but i'm not unaware. Not because the sky is clouded, it means the stars have died, right? :flower::thumbsup:

[Trisher]

The Jill Bolte Taylor video was an excellent example of the Universe gifting someone with an experience that shifted their whole lives. There are many many examples of this gifting for the awakening process. Sometimes we really do need to "see" evidence before we take that step forward. Jill rightly points out that it is down to each and every individual to make a choice and whatever that choice is then that is fine. She has experienced this awakening and the obvious rapture of it will never leave her.

Hers was a very black and white experience. Most people see a mingling of the thinking mind and the awareness until they can still the thinking mind and become the awareness but with the ability to think when they need to. Bringing this awareness down into the physical and combining a solid framework of both the physical as well as the consciousness is possible and attainable.

The physical body takes all the knocks of the physical world. Just raising consciousness does not make the physical vehicle vibrate at a higher frequency. For example what we eat can lower vibration after a meal. A packet of biscuits will lower whilst a plate of fresh raw sprouted seeds will support a high vibration.

Its one solution for the EMFs. Raise the physical vibration, integrate the consciousness and have high vibrations in both. The "outshining" is a huge potential.

Trisher

[Mashika]

Yeah, some people have used that specific hypothesis to create a cult around it, where "NPCs" can be treated as animals or worse, because they don't have any feelings and even feelings of pain or thoughts or caring, when coming from them, are "pre-programmed and fake", There are some cults like QuartzCrystal that brainwash people with this idea

They look for people who are at their weakest point in life, or with some mental health issues, then they say "you are just so special that the NPCs are trying to kill you, because you are a source player, this world and everything around it was built for you to enjoy, but most people here are fake, those who harm you are without soul (NPC), but you have salvation in our founder!"

And then you have to go through hypnosis sessions so that you get cleared of the "sin", or as it was put here, "remove the programming of the matrix"

Once you do that, you have to pay some cash, but only as a "donation" because no one asked you to do it. But if you don't, then you are rejected by all members of the "club" (cult) plus you stop received more "knowledge" from the Matrix, because you can only receive it from the saver of humanity, the creator of the cult of "Quartz Crystal" of course

As i posted before, all that stuff was picked up from Dolores Cannon, in the book series "The Convoluted Universe", Book #5 i believe. I had a small nice chat with Dolores Cannon some time ago and she was very interested in how those people continually tried to use her mother's work to mislead people and get money. But the funniest thing was she said she did not care much, because as long as her mother's real word was out these people were mostly working for free.

And yep, because if you realize once they have gone through all the stuff Dolores Cannon put out there, then they run out of wisdom or ideas and start posting very meaningless stuff Or create threads around forums to ask people what they think, so they can gather some ideas before the followers cut the Patreon off

Unfortunately my life has lead me into knowing that there's no much time to spend running around the bushes, so you must be direct and say it as it is because you don't ever know if next moment you may still be alive. And when you care to let other people know what you have found, you must speak up as soon as possible, because of reason said above, what do? Nothing but sound direct and harsh, most times, and i'm sorry for that but i got used to just yell directions and truths, without regard of feelings

This is a very dumb situation for sure LOL, on one side it's always trying to look at life in the most nice way, believing it will make your life beautiful and peaceful

On the other hand, looking away at the truth, and working on tons and tons of abstracted concepts, leads you to not have a clue of reality

Just like watching a movie and seeing a guy getting shot 2/3/4 times and still get up and fight back and win the battle and admire him for his great effort and such. Complete lack of understanding of Gaia, the real world, and our own souls and purposes plus what knowledge really means for a soul, and not what a brain perceives as knowledge

Do with this as you may, but the truth is always just a bit far away than the finger can touch, in the artificial shadows :P

Based on "NPC's" stuff I would add my dream:
In that dream I was lead,by a girl friend of mine from my teen age,through a hypermarket basement showing me three sort of people that worked on conveyor belts packing food.Showing me and walking through that scene she told me that:"These ones are prepared to be dead." and they looked normal but doesn't have reaction/s;"These ones are half dead" - these looked,moved and react like zombies in the movies,but worst than them and:"These are are dead." and they looked like dead people,moving with inert movements.

From that dream I understand visually how the actual system is preparing specific humans for different tasks.The highest the echelon is the dead they are...Most of them voluntarily stay in line waiting their beautiful and shinny wrapped packages and to jump into the grinder :)

And you are right,we have no time running around the bushes and YES,TRUTH INDEED HURT;I lost "friends" and cursed by people telling them the truth.That's life...don't care...:)



Dear Mashika,

I'm truly sorry for the incident and for your feelings and perhaps you will reconsider your opinion even if I understand you 3 min. zen. :)

Just think to only that it will be possible that at one point this thread will bring interesting info...

I don't insist for Zirconian,I insist for INFORMATION TO BE SPREAD and reach sheeple's ears.Woould you be agree with that?Many thanks.

Yeah i get that, unfortunately this valuable information you all are sharing here, will most likely be used to build a cult or at least a narrative to lead other people into a dead end, i have tons of experience dealing with people who "have some hidden special knowledge but can't talk about it and still require you to disclose your personal knowledge for no reason at all but to give him notes into how to fake wisdom to other people unaware of what's going on"

And i have already seen all the usual red flags here, but i don't want to point them because i know he already did the "she's not on the right frequency" game

It's so worthless this thread, all you and me gave him was notes to reformat and reword so that it becomes helpful for some random cult or online scam

Time will tell, but that he refused to answer clearly at first clearly shows he did not want to share, he wanted to grab

It's all in your end guys, i't just ridiculous to see the clear obvious red flags and it seems no one cares, oh well

Also see my post above this one. Just because sometimes i act like an idiot doesn't mean i'm one for real

<3

Glad you're back!

Don't mind to much about what kind of sect or cult will rose from what we are writing here,but do mind about humans that will understand and avoid falling in trap/s.Reading your posts here,I simply see myself at your age,thinking to fast than spoken or writing.At my 22 I was so sneaky smart,that giving exam for police commissioned officers school, I finished 6 IQ tests in less than 45 min.The medium grades officers from examination commission was baffled and told me if I didn't want to go to Police Academy and after ending the studies to have a special post in Intelligence services.I refused.I only wanted to have a warm and without to much responsibilities job.

From that event and other previous similar I understand that I have to slow down my way of fast thinking and now I reached the point in which is hard for me to figure it out the result of 1+1 :rofl:

I gave you this simple example because not the time have to give answers,even if is told so,but ourselves.

Now,I want to see your red flags here.It's a forum and we all have the right to talk keeping decency.It's not a provocation from my behalf and you don't have to reply to this.Thank you.

Spirits usually can take form of people you loved, so they can come easy into you

"From that event and other previous similar I understand that I have to slow down my way of fast thinking and now"

My brain works in a way that i don't try to go "fast" or "slow", i just get all that stuff and have to figure it out on my own, because no one gets it anyways. I know this is not very unusual, i have known people with worse issues than me

Once you get Zen through effort, you will realize there is no "Now" or "yesterday" or anything, so that "Now" is just you wasting your energy focusing on something that doesn't exist at all, and will never be, because as much as you try to "be part of it" it will aways escape you, right then and there

I'm not a Zen master, so even if i was, i will tell you back your question and see if you can answer it, then it would lead to ask "why" LOL

I don't think this conversation will ever get anywhere



Now,I want to see your red flags here

I'm not really sure you want, because it will become a completely waste of time over the very long term, i can't explain it all unless it starts to become a ridiculous boring "this and that" stuff, but i can show you a couple things from people directly involved in "The Matrix has you" game, then you may be able to see why i reject the way they act, not wanting to really know but instead trying to say "I know more than you!" with such arrogance and ego that it's nasty

I will send you a couple messages on private, then you take your chances in the mystery wall... LMFAO!

[Trisher]

8SV0sNMaLHI

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj in the book "I Am That" speaks about how he sees the world from a self-realised perspective. People would flock to him and ask him questions. The book is a compilation of his encounters with people and their questions and his replies. It is not written by him but from notes taken by someone in the room at the time. His answers were never what they expected. They saw things from their human self perspective and he saw it from what he called the Absolute.

The book is full of wisdom and the quotes mind-blowing.

Trisher

[Zirconian]

Listening to Sri, the words resonance to peace and clear light well from within.

When Sri states that we are wrapped in self identity and thinking processes, this reminds me of the words of Dr Jill Bolte Taylor and the differences of the right and left brain.

Is our imbalanced macro reality, in part due to the priority given to left brain processing?

Can we create more balance through allowing right brain functions more precedence in our day to day world? Would this create more balance within ourselves and the macro reality?

I've reposted Dr Jill Bolte Taylors video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU

And the words from Harmony:

Even though most folk probably have seen this TED talk with Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor, I would encourage you to watch it again. There are some deep important insights within her well expressed experience and research of how brains, perceptions and reality may function.


“I pictured the world filled with beautiful people. Compassionate people who could come to this space anytime and they could purposely choose to step to the right or left hemisphere and find this peace, what a stroke of insight this could be to how we live our lives.”


…… “Who are we? We are the life force power of the universe”




I enjoyed feeling the resonance in the room when Dr Jill Bolte Taylor shared her powerful experiences. Very moving.:heart:

[Trisher]

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Direct Experience & The Deeper Non-conceptual Knowing from Eckhart Tolle.

How do you "know" things? For most of human history, people have lived primarily in the realm of what Eckhart calls "conceptual" awareness—or the realm of the ego—largely unaware of a deeper way of knowing that arises in the realm of the non-conceptual.

Words are being used to describe a process that is found where no words are. There is no point in giving the brain more fodder to chew on really. However we do need some understanding.

It is a process that comes from the heart and freewill and not from analysis. Cutting it into pieces and examining every chunk and word said is the decoy. We have to want it from deep down. There are many pathways which this thread is pointing to.

Anything we see written is just a pointer. Just that. If you saw a road sign pointing down a road you would not get out of the car and then take the sign to bits in order to find the place written on the sign. You would not sit in the road staring at the sign. You would take whatever appropriate action was needed to reach the place.

This process is no different.

Trisher

[Zirconian]

We can increase our vibrations and change our internal state by ensuring we are in the right environment to support a change. Usually this means keeping EMF's to a minimum.

EMF's lower vibrations by suppressing the kundalini, clamping the heart chakra and suppressing the heart frequency. Also, EMF's seem to stimulate mind programmes that keep you in conceptualised thinking rather than being and experiencing.

See Eckhart Tolle's video in the previous post re: Experiencing Through Non Conceptual Knowing. Thanks Trisher :flower:

Tools can influence the vibrations of an environment, the right tools can support
vibrational increases.

Clearing oneself of that which lowers a vibrational state such as persistent negative thoughts/ emotions will raise our vibrational state.

The heart now cleared of suppressive debris can expand into a state of openness. Gratitude can increase heart vibrations.

Mindfulness can slow persistent thinking.

In this state of being we can ask for source downloads deep into the cellular structure of the body where no thing exists.

Over a period of time, receiving regular source downloads can allow for a deeper resonance with nature.

Different Vibrational states are reflections of different consciousness. The higher the vibrational state reflects higher consciousness and a deeper resonance with source in nature. The outer reflects the inner state.

From a higher vibrational state it is easier to work with connectedness and no time and space.

Ask for an object to feel it's vibrational state and you will holographically feel it.

Truth is easier to fathom. The kundalini responds to truth. Asking for truth in a given situation, the kundalini will respond with a yes...….big flow of kundalini energy up the back, a no.....no flow.

Nature is bliss.

A high vibrational state, through source downloads can reveal certain aspects of reality that you did not know existed.

EMF's are being used to suppress people who wish to raise their vibrational state. they are also used to lower any high vibrational areas on earth.

A suppressed heart chakra with an increase in mind programmes suppresses resonance with higher consciousness, it suppresses our true state and resonance with the source in nature.

These EMF fields from technology are suppressing vast numbers of people and earth.

When the technology is used, if you have cleared the WIFI body, you can feel it.

EMF suppression seems to be for various reasons, none of it beneficial to humanity. Timelines can be altered to a negative trajectory when all is suppressed.

However, the source in nature seems to now be dissolving these suppressions, providing support for vibrational raising.

We have a chance to raise our consciousness for new potentials now in this reality. Nature is now able to support.

Negative timelines will dissolve if more people choose to raise their vibrations. The world will then start to reflect our higher state of being. Solutions will synchronistically appear and there will be better potentials in the world for our children.

[Harmony]

Thank you Trisher:flower: for the video “ I Am That” with Sri Nisargadatta’s perspective of what he saw from what he called the Absolute. I really liked the way key points were spoken in an easy and clear form. So profound.


Also thank you for Eckhart Tolle’s video and how it also fits right into the context of guiding our conciousness by being aware and “feeling the essence of being” contrasted to the conceptual mind.


Zirconian, thank you:flower: for your thoughts on how meditation can bring expanded states of conciousness can make positive changes and how the make tuning into the natural earth energy easier. Understanding aspects of reality that were previously unknown with just the conceptual mind becoming more apparant, and also how the EMF can affect our heart and body frequency making it harder to tune into the natural resonance.


I find it uplifting in the thoughts you have put forward that “the source in nature seems to now be dissolving these suppressions, providing support for vibrational raising."


It seems some similar insights on brain function were touched on in the video of Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor’s, when she experienced a stroke damaging the left hemisphere of her brain, with Eckhart Tolle's video, Sri Nisaragatta's video, and the research done in a previous post regarding combined information in the CIA document linked in Post #53.



Qualities that are more pronounced when the right brain is dominantly active like compassion, gratefulness, love and caring, and enabling awareness of a larger perspective of the “workings” and relationship of reality, seem to generate frequencies, or relative resonance that is conducive to what might be called higher values, or values that seem to exist within that frequency range the brain, heart and body, might combine with the resonance of the relative environment and catalyze to trancend ordinary boundaries.


https://www.lionsroar.com/?s=How+meditation+changes+your+brain


This link to “How Meditation Changes Your Brain and Your Life” is about a Tibetan monk, expert meditator, Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche who was fitted with 256 thin wires to measure his brain waves while meditating. Daniel Goleman and Richaard Davidson tell the story of this revolutionary breakthrough in our understanding of how meditation works.


Here are a few quotes from the article:


“The gamma brain state Richie and Antoine discovered was more than unusual, it was unprecedented—a wow! No brain lab had ever before seen gamma oscillations that persist for minutes rather than split seconds, are so strong, and are in synchrony across widespread regions of the brain.”



“All the yogis had elevated gamma oscillations, not just during the meditation practice periods for open presence and compassion but also during the very first measurement, before any meditation was performed. This electrifying data was in the EEG frequency known as “high-amplitude” gamma, the strongest, most intense form. These waves lasted the full minute of the baseline measurement, before they started the meditation.”


“There are four main types of EEG waves, classed by their frequency (technically, measured in Hertz). Delta, the slowest wave, oscillates between one and four cycles per second, and occurs mainly during deep sleep; theta, the next slowest, can signify drowsiness; alpha occurs when we are doing little thinking and indicates relaxation; and beta, the fastest, accompanies thinking, alertness, or concentration.


Gamma, the very fastest brain wave, occurs during moments when differing brain regions fire in harmony, like moments of insight when different elements of a mental puzzle “click” together. To get a sense of this “click,” try this: What single word can turn each of these into a compound word: sauce, pine, crab?”


“This was the very EEG wave that Mingyur had displayed in that surprising surge during both open presence and compassion. And now Richie’s team saw that same unusual brain pattern in all the yogis as a standard feature of their everyday neural activity. In other words, Richie and Antoine had stumbled upon the holy grail: a neural signature showing an enduring transformation.”


Looking at left and right brain characteristics they both seem necessary and are tools that make life easier to move through and cope in our complex environment.


I might leave more on some thoughts on the possible connection to the matrix and manipulation for another post.:waving:

[Mashika]

There is a million things i could say here, and all will be considered wrong, in any possible way

I'm just going to say one thing, specifically directed towards Zirconian

I did not meant to offend you about the bad stuff about the Matrix i said, it was meant to someone else

I did got bothered about how you said "i want you to discuss this" or such, because i'm not a cow, and already said why befiore.

I wish you would talk to me directly, which you don't do. I wonder why people come forward to say "i know some stuff" then when people ask they say "i won't tell you what i know"

It just drive me mad, so why say it in the first place? And why once i ask you just throw away my questions without even try to answer the most basic stuff?

Do you ever tried to look at what i said on my first replies about frequencies, way before i got crazy mad? Was there a reason you did not care about them? So far i have not seen a real, direct, to the point, reply. I just wished you had a real reply, not just "oh that's so good keep going but i'm not going to say anything or add to your thoughts"

I don't know why i'm finding it so hard to explain this feeling that hurts so bad, but it's funny that most people have and will continue to shun me away and that's fine in the end. Do you remember those days in your early life when you have something to say but once you said it you where slapped to no end so you would shut up and let the adults do their talk, even if their were wrong and you were told to leave it in peace and once you're grown up you can say whatever you want?

Yep

P.S
I'm sorry if i caused harm or offended Zirconian, i made lots of mistakes and probably still would that's why i rather stay away for some time from anything

Hope you can find your answers here, i bet for sure there's no better place :thumbsup::happythumbsup:

[Harmony]

Dear Sasha, I cannot answer for Zirconian, but you are more than welcome to add some information about how the matrix might work. You are obviously a very inteligent lady and some on the post have replied you have some good questions.

My thoughts are Zirconian is writing about her experience and how she has felt it might help others who are experiencing a similar feeling. I don't think she was ever implying she knows all the answers to any complex questions herself, but to explore possibilities.

If you put forward some interesting ideas that would be great without tearing others thoughts apart, as we are all doing our best to explore ideas to bring more understanding, not implying anything is total truth set in stone or anything. Please join in.😊💕

[Ernie Nemeth]

Who is this we you talk about? This we who is not Sasha? The we who gets the responses?

But thanks for the clarification of your group's motives...

[Harmony]

Who is this we you talk about? This we who is not Sasha? The we who gets the responses?

But thanks for the clarification of your group's motives...

Hi, Sorry for this only quick post, having a hectic day☺. I wrote that, and was referring to all who have posted on this thread. Folk are just putting possible ideas forward to think about just referring to experiences written about in this thread, mostly with meditation, but not necessarily, how EMF could affect personal vibrations and former connections some meditators might have had compared to EMF environments. Possible matrix manipulations and looking at possibilities of how energies may work in a matrix in conjunction to some research done on left and right brain functions.

It might be better if you read the thread if you haven't, I know it's a bit long, to see where a possible misunderstanding might have come about of the thread motives, unintentionally.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Thanks.

I see this same excuse has been used already. I've read the thread, but thanks for making negative assumptions.

These so-called solutions would not have worked for NEO, it won't work for us now.

All the flowery posts of pretty pictures and uplifting sayings do nothing. Feel good attitudes do nothing.

The only way out is by arming oneself with facts from a wide ranging array of topics. Be clear of what is actually going on. And don't think flowery thinking will rub off on the ignorant and arrogant - it won't.

You can raise your vibration to the moon and it will not help one whit. Be clear of what is going on and what your part is in it all.

Preaching to the choir is fun, but not productive.

[Zirconian]

Hi Sacha,

Thanks for your post Sacha. I really appreciated what you have said.
It was big of you to post it.

Just to state, some of the questions you have raised in the thread were excellent.

However, when I post on a thread, sometimes I have to make a judgement call, as to how I respond, when to respond or whether to respond at all.
Sometimes, I may wish to post a response but realise that I'm not comfortable in doing so.
I may decide that it's best not to go ahead with what I may have planned to state, for good reasons that I may not wish to divulge.

Some of these aforementioned reasons may not be personal to you and I ask you to understand.

However, If I feel by posting a reply to any post will not be constructive in any way to the thread or to the readers of the thread, then I also have to make a judgement call and not respond.

Sacha, you do not have to agree with my experiences or the experiences and posts of others on the thread, nobody would expect that of you or the readers but what I would politely request is that if you do disagree to any posts that you keep your responses polite and civil then we may build a dialogue to at least reach an understanding.

I would welcome future posts from you Sacha.

However, whether you decide to post on this thread again or not.....I wish you well.

[Zirconian]

Timelines,

There are a few people dotted around who are raising vibrations and having similar experiences to what I have described.

They understand what it is they are facing and are dealing with it.

Some have found in a high vibrational state they can become aware and dissolve negative timelines.

Though the negative suppressions reach what we would term high (probably to 21) dimensions. A higher vibration will dissolve the suppressions and negative timelines.

People are doing this.

[Delight]

I think this is pertinent. Reality shifts happen.

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[Trisher]

Thank you Delight for a very interesting video. Reality is not what we take it to be at all and that's a good thing. The other layers are becoming more and more visible and we help that by being open to all things. I have had crystals that come and go. Mostly the expensive ones. :)

Trisher

[Delight]

Thank you Delight for a very interesting video. Reality is not what we take it to be at all and that's a good thing. The other layers are becoming more and more visible and we help that by being open to all things. I have had crystals that come and go. Mostly the expensive ones. :)

Trisher

Hope you see this. I never had seen it before though I know of the Kogi.

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[Mashika]

Hi Sacha,

Thanks for your post Sacha. I really appreciated what you have said.
It was big of you to post it.

Just to state, some of the questions you have raised in the thread were excellent.

However, when I post on a thread, sometimes I have to make a judgement call, as to how I respond, when to respond or whether to respond at all.
Sometimes, I may wish to post a response but realise that I'm not comfortable in doing so.
I may decide that it's best not to go ahead with what I may have planned to state, for good reasons that I may not wish to divulge.

Some of these aforementioned reasons may not be personal to you and I ask you to understand.

However, If I feel by posting a reply to any post will not be constructive in any way to the thread or to the readers of the thread, then I also have to make a judgement call and not respond.

Sacha, you do not have to agree with my experiences or the experiences and posts of others on the thread, nobody would expect that of you or the readers but what I would politely request is that if you do disagree to any posts that you keep your responses polite and civil then we may build a dialogue to at least reach an understanding.

I would welcome future posts from you Sacha.

However, whether you decide to post on this thread again or not.....I wish you well.

I don't have a giant background of how to act like a socialite, i rejected that most of my life and was shunned away because of it. Yet i learned to talk like one either way.. I'm a terrible person in several ways, and as i put it before on other places "my mouth is sharper than my brain".

However that doesn't mean i'm uneducated, total opposite, i'm proud of my education and it allows me to have a sharp, insulting mouth, in several ways (it comes from thinking about some stuff based on things other people may not be aware of)

I thank you for not getting so much mad at me, i did not mean to hurt or insult you, or anyone else here. i just have some stuff on my brain that leads me to say things most people don't like. But in general, most of the people in this planet have it as well, in one way or another

It's also part of the illusion, that whatever "knowledge" is shared and discussed makes us feel we are onto something, somehow lol

I don't think i can participate on this thread much more, since i don't follow much anymore. I went pass trying to figure out how to grow by using my soul as a tool to grow beyond and above. Because i realized it was all part of the illusion and not much more.

"A fish always thinks the small fake boat inside it's tank is the real deal"

So i bailed out of it, i'm looking for more answers that do not involve repeating the same stuff people before me already "knew" but never tried to prove beyond thinking of it like a mantra. And i know this sounds bad and ugly, and ignorant, but it's not in the end, i just don't have the words to explain it in a different way. So i sound negative instead

thank you so much for your understanding, i don't think i can add good things to this thread, so i'm not trying again, i just wanted to say thanks for your patience and not getting angry at me for my mistakes, i really appreciate that :heart:

Oh there's one thing left to say that i forgot, but it goes like this. None of the people who will make you advance on your search, or research, or attempts to find truth, will ever be nice and tell you things in ways that make you feel good. Total opposite, it will be full of angry, contradictory and sad feelings. Real truth comes at that price, i guess i'm only saying this because i believe you guys are truly seeking something. It's a road full of spikes, and not much more

[Trisher]

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Oh there's one thing left to say that i forgot, but it goes like this. None of the people who will make you advance on your search, or research, or attempts to find truth, will ever be nice and tell you things in ways that make you feel good. Total opposite, it will be full of angry, contradictory and sad feelings. Real truth comes at that price, i guess i'm only saying this because i believe you guys are truly seeking something. It's a road full of spikes, and not much more

I can only speak for myself here Sasha. Whatever life throws at me there are always solutions to be found somewhere. I never respond to anger or angry people. Eventually they calm down or else I walk away. I find that nothing can ever be achieved through arguments and heated exchanges. Only more of the same. What is on this thread are some solutions people have found that work for them spiritually. There is nothing new. It is ancient knowledge. There never will be new things for achieving stillness because its all about overcoming things that stand in the way from within. It is not about finding yet more things to think about.

There are a few seeds thrown here and there on this thread which may or may not suit others. It is up to each individual to do the inner work as and when and if they feel ready. No-one has the whole answer for another because each one of us is completely individual. Answers can only be found from within and not by arguing over things. A belief in something can be the stopping point of an individual moving on. I have personally found that to stay open to the inner intuitive self I need to trample all beliefs and just listen to feelings. No thoughts are involved. If they are then that again is just a belief. Our schools and societies teach us how to think. It takes some practice to un-think and become still enough to receive that deep inner connection to Source. Its not easy. However it is the only way.

I genuinely wish you well Sasha.:heart:

Trisher

[Wind]

"We can only escape from the world by outgrowing the world. Death may take man out of the world but only wisdom can take the world out of the man. As long as the human being is obsessed by worldliness, he will suffer from the Karmic consequences of false allegiances. When however, worldliness is transmuted into Spiritual Integrity he is free, even though he still dwells physically among worldly things."

~ Manly P. Hall

[shamballaOn]

Timelines,

There are a few people dotted around who are raising vibrations and having similar experiences to what I have described.

They understand what it is they are facing and are dealing with it.

Some have found in a high vibrational state they can become aware and dissolve negative timelines.

Though the negative suppressions reach what we would term high (probably to 21) dimensions. A higher vibration will dissolve the suppressions and negative timelines.

People are doing this.

Hi Zirconian,

Thanks for this very interested tread. Could you share some more of your knowledge about timelines? Do you do specific exercises to be on a positive timeline?

Do you have some books or websites (maybe from the people you are talking about) to point to?

I hope this tread can continue for a while...

[Zirconian]

Thanks Trisher, Harmony, Delight, Wind and shamballaOn for your posts.
Sacha Alisa, I really wish you well.:flower:

I've been busy, so sorry for the late reply.

shamballaOn, I personally have not read any books on timelines but I have asked around and the books from Carlos Castenada are recommended.

Knowledge of timelines have been experienced by a few people I have met, who are not going public via websites etc.

As for myself, knowledge of timelines was not an interest of mine. I just wanted to know source (or the creator), however you wish to express this creative force that is in each and every one of us.

I spent my younger years learning to open my meridians to heal and spent time amongst Tibetans. I also met with a few people over the years who were working with consciousness that were, to me, unique. They really showed me what could be achieved from raising vibrations from personal clearing, going within and putting the heart at the centre of life. Though there were ups and downs with this process.

Once I really started to focus on this pathway, rather than dipping in and out, so many truths revealed themselves, either via the psychic route or through synchronicity and that is how my awareness (and that of others) of the manipulation of timelines happened.

Timelines can change and it does seem at this moment that the very negative timelines are being dissolved, I'm sure there will be more attempts to suppress Gaia and humanity (we are very much linked in consciousness) but Gaia seems to have raised her vibratory field and is dissolving a lot more suppression and negativity. Though we still do need to address 5G a very effective tool for suppression.

More people could assist in this process to move Gaia and humanity to a more positive trajectory, though she seems to be doing a lot better (at the moment), despite appearances.

Humans cannot be manipulated if they turn within to the heart, clear themselves of programming and raise their vibrations .......by really asking for precisely that.

With some work and focus, awareness of higher consciousness fields of knowledge can be achieved, truths are revealed which cannot be doubted in anyway for the truth so resonates in the body, there is no need to question.

[Zirconian]

ShamballaOm,

.

To raise vibrations, to access higher consciousness, can effectively be done by clearing our programming, suppressions & matrix (interdimensional) manipulations.


Originally posted by Trisher....way back in the thread, from a book by Christina Von Dreien


To clear;

This cleansing has to be done whilst connected to Source..all that is..whatever name you have for it and however you connect to it


A simple way is to visualize a light going up from the top of your head and then reaching a large golden ball. This ball is visualised as being Source. There is no defined method. Whatever you feel is right for you then go with it. Once connected to source you can start to clear all the things that are no longer in your highest divine good ..You can ask for example that all contracts that are no longer in your highest divine good are dissolved. However you must also ask for all saved and backup copies with all energetic imprints and side effects get removed as these if left can reinstall whatever it is you are trying to dissolve. You may or may not feel things have been dissolved as far as they can. Trust that it is so. Some things may not be dissolved if you are still in need of them for learning.



Through clearing something from the energy field you leaves holes..gaps ..spaces..these should be filled with unconditional love. You need to ask specifically for what you want and request that source do this. You are asking for Source to do all this work..you are not using your energy to dissolve things. Once you have cleared all you want to in a session then flood yourself with thankfulness.



In connection to this it is important to note that the body cells store not only experiences from our soul but also above and beyond that the collective experiences of our ancestors. This includes the experiences, ideas and patterns of our mother and father as well as their forebears. Thus we inherit from our ancestors an immense amount of cell memory which may not be in our highest divine good. These inherited things can be dissolved in the same way as those above. Asking for eg entanglements, patterns, restrictions, blockages, illnesses and suffering etc to be cleared .



This is a starter list of things that most will not have all of but certainly some.



Treaties, agreements, alliances, packages, contracts


Oaths, promises, vows
Shocks, traumas
Thought patterns such as beliefs, ideas, worldviews.
Destructive emotional patterns such as fear patterns, guilt patterns, anger patterns, hate patterns. Dislikes, things created through Imagination
Attachments
Karmic burdens
Generational burdens
Initiations, sacraments
Curse, curses, damnations, bans
Energetic blockades, blockings, downgrades, seals and armour.
Mental programs, manipulation, brainwashing, disinformation, coding.
Entities, attachments, parasitic entities, overshadowing by entities. possesion
Foreign energies from people, that through thinking, emotions and words are actively connected to us (e.g. by thinking about us or talking about us)
Projections from other people (i.e. from our ideas that we have and express to others)
Astral constructs (energies programmed with certain commands)
Astral nails, screws, chains, shackles
Holograms. Energy twists, energy reversals, energy vampires
Physical or energetic implants (microchips, transmitters, receivers, switches, timers, nanobots, chemtrail toxins etc)
Vaccines and foetal consciousness within the vaccine because of the way it is made
Animal consciousness from eating meat


I have found this to be effective on myself and others.

[Zirconian]

From a cleared space within and a cleared space without (no EMF's)

Go into the heart, compassionate mindfulness is a good place to get into this space. Gratitude is another.

Ask for source downloads to raise vibrations.

Ask for Gaia source downloads.

Go out in nature.

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

See what happens over the coming months.:flower:

[DeDukshyn]

 
This might fit here at this time ... a "basic" explanation of how mind and "reality" are connected ...


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To add a bit (that will be relevant after watching the video), I read this little book once, I can't recall the name, that stated that three emotions when sustained, promote manifestation. These emotions are gratitude, appreciation, and praise.


It suggested that maintaining at least one of these emotions at all times, will assist you in the conscious creation of a new world ... to raise it to the level it deserves.

It also suggested that solar storms and cosmic rays provide an uptick in subatomic energy (heavily paraphrased), that assist in the manifestation process.

Is a massive solar storm due to hit us soon? Perhaps this fall ... ? Can we take advantage of it?

Things to consider ....

[Harmony]

 
This might fit here at this time ... a "basic" explanation of how mind and "reality" are connected ...


_iXlIhplWl8


To add a bit (that will be relevant after watching the video), I read this little book once, I can't recall the name, that stated that three emotions when sustained, promote manifestation. These emotions are gratitude, appreciation, and praise.


It suggested that maintaining at least one of these emotions at all times, will assist you in the conscious creation of a new world ... to raise it to the level it deserves.

It also suggested that solar storms and cosmic rays provide an uptick in subatomic energy (heavily paraphrased), that assist in the manifestation process.

Is a massive solar storm due to hit us soon? Perhaps this fall ... ? Can we take advantage of it?

Things to consider ....


Thanks for that video, it rings so true and amazing. Also thanks for yor thoughts about solar storms and cosmic rays.:flower:

[Mashika]

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Oh there's one thing left to say that i forgot, but it goes like this. None of the people who will make you advance on your search, or research, or attempts to find truth, will ever be nice and tell you things in ways that make you feel good. Total opposite, it will be full of angry, contradictory and sad feelings. Real truth comes at that price, i guess i'm only saying this because i believe you guys are truly seeking something. It's a road full of spikes, and not much more

I can only speak for myself here Sasha. Whatever life throws at me there are always solutions to be found somewhere. I never respond to anger or angry people. Eventually they calm down or else I walk away. I find that nothing can ever be achieved through arguments and heated exchanges. Only more of the same. What is on this thread are some solutions people have found that work for them spiritually. There is nothing new. It is ancient knowledge. There never will be new things for achieving stillness because its all about overcoming things that stand in the way from within. It is not about finding yet more things to think about.

There are a few seeds thrown here and there on this thread which may or may not suit others. It is up to each individual to do the inner work as and when and if they feel ready. No-one has the whole answer for another because each one of us is completely individual. Answers can only be found from within and not by arguing over things. A belief in something can be the stopping point of an individual moving on. I have personally found that to stay open to the inner intuitive self I need to trample all beliefs and just listen to feelings. No thoughts are involved. If they are then that again is just a belief. Our schools and societies teach us how to think. It takes some practice to un-think and become still enough to receive that deep inner connection to Source. Its not easy. However it is the only way.

I genuinely wish you well Sasha.:heart:

Trisher

You know guys, i thought very hard about this, because i believe it has to be said, but i don't know how much i can say that can be understood, as i make tons and tons of mistakes and gets frustrated. But hear me out for a bit please

Most of the stuff that constantly is thrown out there, has already been talked about so much that over time it lost its true meaning, so it just became noise

At this time in our current world and timeline, or whatever people wants to call it, that knowledge is partial and not absolute

But i don't have a way to explain that to you guys, i just can see it. As time evolves, so do humans, if you keep looking at a glass picture, before it got broken, you will never see the pieces flying around yourself. That's as much as i can say to try explain what's happening right now

You can spend all your time looking at the perfect picture of how it's supposed to be, or you can snap out of it and look at the broken glass and realize it's no more that image you had assumed it would be like

But you need to understand just that one thing. This world, is not the world you expect to be on, based on that knowledge that has been shared so much that it obscured the truth that exists out there

Frequencies, high or low, have nothing to do with anything at all, it's a distraction and a control tool

I can tell you this, i explained why frequencies were not a way to become aware or understand or grow out of the "illusion", and all i got was explanations about nothing at all, no one really gave it a second thought, and that's why i grew so frustrated. All i got back was the same old tired concepts that no one can really explain but continually repeat. Even after i explained why "raising/lowering" of frequencies did not make sense, the talk about "raising" your frequencies kept going on, which just means no one listened

Everyone can hear, but only a few listen

If i were to ask to describe the mechanism, emotional, spiritual, or in any other form, about how frequencies work, no one could really tell. It's just words, human beings are very easy to manipulate and control. There is no high or low, that's a human (non spiritual) concept. Do with this as you like

I'm ignorant as a person, we all are in several ways, i just think that we should not just accept words that sound wise just because it's been some time and the person who said it looked or sounded wise, questioning is how The Buddha became, not avoiding the truth

The understanding of yesterday, is not the understanding of today, and won't be the understanding of tomorrow

In the end, it's all up to you guys

P.S

Have you ever wondered where, if the matrix exists, would it be located? Other than within Source itself? (because source contains all existence)

[Trisher]

[

Oh there's one thing left to say that i forgot, but it goes like this. None of the people who will make you advance on your search, or research, or attempts to find truth, will ever be nice and tell you things in ways that make you feel good. Total opposite, it will be full of angry, contradictory and sad feelings. Real truth comes at that price, i guess i'm only saying this because i believe you guys are truly seeking something. It's a road full of spikes, and not much more

I can only speak for myself here Sasha. Whatever life throws at me there are always solutions to be found somewhere. I never respond to anger or angry people. Eventually they calm down or else I walk away. I find that nothing can ever be achieved through arguments and heated exchanges. Only more of the same. What is on this thread are some solutions people have found that work for them spiritually. There is nothing new. It is ancient knowledge. There never will be new things for achieving stillness because its all about overcoming things that stand in the way from within. It is not about finding yet more things to think about.

There are a few seeds thrown here and there on this thread which may or may not suit others. It is up to each individual to do the inner work as and when and if they feel ready. No-one has the whole answer for another because each one of us is completely individual. Answers can only be found from within and not by arguing over things. A belief in something can be the stopping point of an individual moving on. I have personally found that to stay open to the inner intuitive self I need to trample all beliefs and just listen to feelings. No thoughts are involved. If they are then that again is just a belief. Our schools and societies teach us how to think. It takes some practice to un-think and become still enough to receive that deep inner connection to Source. Its not easy. However it is the only way.

I genuinely wish you well Sasha.:heart:

Trisher

You know guys, i thought very hard about this, because i believe it has to be said, but i don't know how much i can say that can be understood, as i make tons and tons of mistakes and gets frustrated. But hear me out for a bit please

Most of the stuff that constantly is thrown out there, has already been talked about so much that over time it lost its true meaning, so it just became noise

At this time in our current world and timeline, or whatever people wants to call it, that knowledge is partial and not absolute

But i don't have a way to explain that to you guys, i just can see it. As time evolves, so do humans, if you keep looking at a glass picture, before it got broken, you will never see the pieces flying around yourself. That's as much as i can say to try explain what's happening right now

You can spend all your time looking at the perfect picture of how it's supposed to be, or you can snap out of it and look at the broken glass and realize it's no more that image you had assumed it would be like

But you need to understand just that one thing. This world, is not the world you expect to be on, based on that knowledge that has been shared so much that it obscured the truth that exists out there

Frequencies, high or low, have nothing to do with anything at all, it's a distraction and a control tool

I can tell you this, i explained why frequencies were not a way to become aware or understand or grow out of the "illusion", and all i got was explanations about nothing at all, no one really gave it a second thought, and that's why i grew so frustrated. All i got back was the same old tired concepts that no one can really explain but continually repeat. Even after i explained why "raising/lowering" of frequencies did not make sense, the talk about "raising" your frequencies kept going on, which just means no one listened

Everyone can hear, but only a few listen

If i were to ask to describe the mechanism, emotional, spiritual, or in any other form, about how frequencies work, no one could really tell. It's just words, human beings are very easy to manipulate and control. There is no high or low, that's a human (non spiritual) concept. Do with this as you like

I'm ignorant as a person, we all are in several ways, i just think that we should not just accept words that sound wise just because it's been some time and the person who said it looked or sounded wise, questioning is how The Buddha became, not avoiding the truth

The understanding of yesterday, is not the understanding of today, and won't be the understanding of tomorrow

In the end, it's all up to you guys

P.S

Have you ever wondered where, if the matrix exists, would it be located? Other than within Source itself? (because source contains all existence)

Thank you Sasha for your thoughtful post. As you said its not about words and it isn't. Its about the experience. Its not about ideas or any head thing. Its nothing to
do with the world and what its thought to be. Words are getting in the way.

This space is found with sitting quietly and connecting through the heart.
Trisher

[Mashika]

[

Oh there's one thing left to say that i forgot, but it goes like this. None of the people who will make you advance on your search, or research, or attempts to find truth, will ever be nice and tell you things in ways that make you feel good. Total opposite, it will be full of angry, contradictory and sad feelings. Real truth comes at that price, i guess i'm only saying this because i believe you guys are truly seeking something. It's a road full of spikes, and not much more

I can only speak for myself here Sasha. Whatever life throws at me there are always solutions to be found somewhere. I never respond to anger or angry people. Eventually they calm down or else I walk away. I find that nothing can ever be achieved through arguments and heated exchanges. Only more of the same. What is on this thread are some solutions people have found that work for them spiritually. There is nothing new. It is ancient knowledge. There never will be new things for achieving stillness because its all about overcoming things that stand in the way from within. It is not about finding yet more things to think about.

There are a few seeds thrown here and there on this thread which may or may not suit others. It is up to each individual to do the inner work as and when and if they feel ready. No-one has the whole answer for another because each one of us is completely individual. Answers can only be found from within and not by arguing over things. A belief in something can be the stopping point of an individual moving on. I have personally found that to stay open to the inner intuitive self I need to trample all beliefs and just listen to feelings. No thoughts are involved. If they are then that again is just a belief. Our schools and societies teach us how to think. It takes some practice to un-think and become still enough to receive that deep inner connection to Source. Its not easy. However it is the only way.

I genuinely wish you well Sasha.:heart:

Trisher

You know guys, i thought very hard about this, because i believe it has to be said, but i don't know how much i can say that can be understood, as i make tons and tons of mistakes and gets frustrated. But hear me out for a bit please

Most of the stuff that constantly is thrown out there, has already been talked about so much that over time it lost its true meaning, so it just became noise

At this time in our current world and timeline, or whatever people wants to call it, that knowledge is partial and not absolute

But i don't have a way to explain that to you guys, i just can see it. As time evolves, so do humans, if you keep looking at a glass picture, before it got broken, you will never see the pieces flying around yourself. That's as much as i can say to try explain what's happening right now

You can spend all your time looking at the perfect picture of how it's supposed to be, or you can snap out of it and look at the broken glass and realize it's no more that image you had assumed it would be like

But you need to understand just that one thing. This world, is not the world you expect to be on, based on that knowledge that has been shared so much that it obscured the truth that exists out there

Frequencies, high or low, have nothing to do with anything at all, it's a distraction and a control tool

I can tell you this, i explained why frequencies were not a way to become aware or understand or grow out of the "illusion", and all i got was explanations about nothing at all, no one really gave it a second thought, and that's why i grew so frustrated. All i got back was the same old tired concepts that no one can really explain but continually repeat. Even after i explained why "raising/lowering" of frequencies did not make sense, the talk about "raising" your frequencies kept going on, which just means no one listened

Everyone can hear, but only a few listen

If i were to ask to describe the mechanism, emotional, spiritual, or in any other form, about how frequencies work, no one could really tell. It's just words, human beings are very easy to manipulate and control. There is no high or low, that's a human (non spiritual) concept. Do with this as you like

I'm ignorant as a person, we all are in several ways, i just think that we should not just accept words that sound wise just because it's been some time and the person who said it looked or sounded wise, questioning is how The Buddha became, not avoiding the truth

The understanding of yesterday, is not the understanding of today, and won't be the understanding of tomorrow

In the end, it's all up to you guys

P.S

Have you ever wondered where, if the matrix exists, would it be located? Other than within Source itself? (because source contains all existence)

Thank you Sasha for your thoughtful post. As you said its not about words and it isn't. Its about the experience. Its not about ideas or any head thing. Its nothing to
do with the world and what its thought to be. Words are getting in the way.

This space is found with sitting quietly and connecting through the heart.
Trisher

Hi Trisher, thanks for your reply, very appreciated <3

i want to say something about my previous post. I purposely added some "low frequency" thoughts here:



I can tell you this, i explained why frequencies were not a way to become aware or understand or grow out of the "illusion", and all i got was explanations about nothing at all, no one really gave it a second thought, and that's why i grew so frustrated. All i got back was the same old tired concepts that no one can really explain but continually repeat. Even after i explained why "raising/lowering" of frequencies did not make sense, the talk about "raising" your frequencies kept going on, which just means no one listened

Everyone can hear, but only a few listen

Just as a way to show that high/low frequency stuff doesn't mean much in the long term, as far as spiritual growth. My words are full of arrogance and ego, and self entitlement, these were low frequency feelings and if someone reads that then it may cause some feelings, which are just not going to take knowledge or growth out of your own path, or mine, it's just a temporary thing and even then it allows people to grow by experiencing the low, eventually it also leads to a high. Is not important if it was low or high frequency feelings or thoughts, both lead to spiritual growth

I had read something related to this some time ago but forgot where, i found the link today, in case someone would like to have a look. I kind of reached the same conclusion some years ago, but i'm not able to explain it as clearly as this guy did
https://medium.com/swlh/why-i-stopped-fretting-about-my-spiritual-frequency-331518f17a52


Raising your frequency higher and higher is often interpreted to mean that you’re awakening and ascending, becoming more aligned with God or Spirit than you were before. Having healing breakthroughs, experiencing energy and light, dissolving old patterns, and enjoying sudden insights into your own mind — these are all wonderful experiences and should be applauded and met with grace and appreciation. It means you’re actually doing the hard work of diving into your past. That’s the work of healing.

But there’s a trap. You can start to fall into a false sense of “progress” on your spiritual path, as if it were a kind of linear trajectory, always rising to a higher vibrational frequency. After some deep healing experience, you believe that you’ve reached a certain height. And you become attached to it. It’s important to you that you stay at this vibe; your frequency starts to have a deeper meaning for you — an identity. You start to develop a new sense of self around this: You are a “high vibe” person.

By having this “high vibe” identity, you tend to police its boundaries, making sure you don’t come in contact with people who might bring you down.


One of the things i dislike the most about the use of "frequency" as a way to measure your spiritual state is that a lot of people have lost themselves in the path by just focusing on increasing or "raising" their frequencies and somehow expecting this will align them with the universe or create a happy experience and life, but that's just losing time, confusing the practice with the end goal takes you completely away from reaching the truth. And then it leads to ideas such as "if you eat meat or have dark thoughts of feelings, you lower your frequency", and that has nothing much to do with spiritual growth, it is a human ideal, not a spiritual one.

Killing a dangerous spider doesn't lower your frequency or vibration, yet i have seen people avoiding it because they think it will stop their spiritual growth. They are so worried about keeping their vibration high that they forgot why it was needed in the first place, or that it didn't 100% related to becoming wiser or more aligned with the universe. "Confused the path with the destination" or some similar words were used to describe this situation

Thanks for your consideration, best wishes to all

:heart::heart::heart:

-

Masha

[Trisher]

Quote from Sasha



i want to say something about my previous post. I purposely added some "low frequency" thoughts here:



I can tell you this, i explained why frequencies were not a way to become aware or understand or grow out of the "illusion", and all i got was explanations about nothing at all, no one really gave it a second thought, and that's why i grew so frustrated. All i got back was the same old tired concepts that no one can really explain but continually repeat. Even after i explained why "raising/lowering" of frequencies did not make sense, the talk about "raising" your frequencies kept going on, which just means no one listened

Everyone can hear, but only a few listen

Just as a way to show that high/low frequency stuff doesn't mean much in the long term, as far as spiritual growth. My words are full of arrogance and ego, and self entitlement, these were low frequency feelings and if someone reads that then it may cause some feelings, which are just not going to take knowledge or growth out of your own path, or mine, it's just a temporary thing and even then it allows people to grow by experiencing the low, eventually it also leads to a high. Is not important if it was low or high frequency feelings or thoughts, both lead to spiritual growth

I had read something related to this some time ago but forgot where, i found the link today, in case someone would like to have a look. I kind of reached the same conclusion some years ago, but i'm not able to explain it as clearly as this guy did
https://medium.com/swlh/why-i-stopped-fretting-about-my-spiritual-frequency-331518f17a52


Raising your frequency higher and higher is often interpreted to mean that you’re awakening and ascending, becoming more aligned with God or Spirit than you were before. Having healing breakthroughs, experiencing energy and light, dissolving old patterns, and enjoying sudden insights into your own mind — these are all wonderful experiences and should be applauded and met with grace and appreciation. It means you’re actually doing the hard work of diving into your past. That’s the work of healing.

But there’s a trap. You can start to fall into a false sense of “progress” on your spiritual path, as if it were a kind of linear trajectory, always rising to a higher vibrational frequency. After some deep healing experience, you believe that you’ve reached a certain height. And you become attached to it. It’s important to you that you stay at this vibe; your frequency starts to have a deeper meaning for you — an identity. You start to develop a new sense of self around this: You are a “high vibe” person.

By having this “high vibe” identity, you tend to police its boundaries, making sure you don’t come in contact with people who might bring you down.


One of the things i dislike the most about the use of "frequency" as a way to measure your spiritual state is that a lot of people have lost themselves in the path by just focusing on increasing or "raising" their frequencies and somehow expecting this will align them with the universe or create a happy experience and life, but that's just losing time, confusing the practice with the end goal takes you completely away from reaching the truth. And then it leads to ideas such as "if you eat meat or have dark thoughts of feelings, you lower your frequency", and that has nothing much to do with spiritual growth, it is a human ideal, not a spiritual one.

Killing a dangerous spider doesn't lower your frequency or vibration, yet i have seen people avoiding it because they think it will stop their spiritual growth. They are so worried about keeping their vibration high that they forgot why it was needed in the first place, or that it didn't 100% related to becoming wiser or more aligned with the universe. "Confused the path with the destination" or some similar words were used to describe this situation

Thanks for your consideration, best wishes to all

:heart::heart::heart:

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Thank you Sasha

There are pitfalls on every spiritual path we take in seeking connection to Source. We can lean on the tool we use too heavily and forget that the tool is just that..a tool. A tool is a boat that only takes us across the river to the other side, then when we reach the other side we have to get out of the boat, dropping the tool and walk that last bit on our own.

However we do not throw out the tool because we have the potential to become attached to it. All tools can become attachments. All tools also have the potential to lead us to the part where we step out of the boat.

Frequencies and vibrations are an integral part of our world in which everything has a frequency. Each plant and tree has one. Each essential oil has one and Rose Absolute purportedly has the highest. People who sit and think about a plant or a tree will bring that resonance to them. Anyone thinking about upsetting things and darker issues will bring that to them as well. Its a choice and yes it matters because we spread that negativity or light around us to others. We leave a trail of that energy wherever we walk. We fill a room with it. It goes into everything we own and everything we create. I have felt sick to my stomach with a meal created by people who were deep in thought about something upsetting. The food we eat also impacts on vibration. Being mindful of what we do, think and say is important for our wellbeing.

I was out on a woodland walk the other day. The river was flowing fast from recent rains and the sun brought out rainbows. It was beautiful. On the way back I passed a couple with a dog. Suddenly as I walked onwards I felt nauseous and a huge sadness enveloped me. I stepped to the side of the path as I realised that the trail they had left behind them on the path was creating that feeling in me. I was having to clear it as I went along. They were completely unaware of their impact. For sensitive people the world is a minefield and of course they will seek out what makes them feel good energetically and avoid that which does not. If that aspect of life is ignored by people as unimportant then it can lead to illness and depression. A low vibration is one of the causes of ill health. Just for that reason alone it is important to be mindful of how things make us feel energetically.

Looking at nature we see bees affected by EMF frequencies and whales beaching themselves because of sonic frequencies emitted by various underwater craft. We see less birds flying where there are masts and plants are stunted in growth. Our own gut bacteria dies with the wrong frequency. People can be healed and balanced with the right frequencies (Rife/spooky machines).

A frequency/vibration is something we all experience in many different ways and it matters deeply. We all have responsibility for what we put out into the world. Do we really want to say that it doesn't matter at all if we are constantly angry, jealous, fearful, dominating etc as opposed to loving, peaceful, joyful? I doubt that.

Trisher

[Zirconian]

Hi Sacha Alisa,

Sorry for the late reply but I have been busy recently.

Thank you for your post, you have raised some interesting and pertinent questions, that I feel can best be answered humbly, from my own experience.

My vibrations go up and down every day depending on what I'm thinking, feeling, eating etc. They can also be affected by what others are thinking feeling around me. I feel it is best to be aware of them, as I prefer on average, (average being a key here), to be in a high vibration. A low vibration makes me feel uncomfortable This in essence may help to answer your question, I just choose to feel comfortable. My vibrational choice is uplifting, peaceful and more joyous and it comes from an expanded heart space.

When my vibrations go down, I usually focus through the heart and raise them. I do not overly identify with this process. Any form of over identification or attachment can lead to mind confusion and is not helpful.

Vibrations are frequencies that represent consciousness and life force. Higher vibrations are a result of heart centred practices and of heart centred living & being.

High vibrations from heart centred practices reflect packed in quantum light consciousness into the cellular structure and raised kundalini from source downloads and an expanded heart space.

High vibrations are a consequence of an expanded heart, consciousness and a raised kundalini. The focus is not necessarily to raise vibrations but to expand the heart. From this expanded heart space you can feel more of the vibrational fields around you. Feeling vibrations is one method to feeling the truth of all things. Nature carries high vibrational fields that we can interact with. If we interact with nature through the heart, we can feel joy and upliftment. However, nature will support and raise our vibrations even if we are distracted.

How do we expand the heart?

There are many methods to be in the heart and they are found in videos and posts in this thread and other threads on this site. Examples of threads that are uplifting and heart expanding are from Anka, Cara and Billy's posts on the Mother Mary thread. These are some examples, there are many more.

Methods to expand the heart, raise kundalini and expand consciousness are usually ancient. They are tried and tested and found to be effective. Mindfulness has been scientifically tested, so I would not in any way dismiss them.

Whatever method one chooses to open the heart space, I would recommend asking for source downloads. I do not know whether the statement is a new way to articulate an ancient method or if it is new but I do know these downloads expand consciousness through the heart and there maybe new potentials in the download to lift humanity, at this present time.

If you choose another method, as long as the results are an expanded heart, it will always be beneficial.

Why is an expanded heart with the resultant high vibrations beneficial?

Well, there is more flow in life, there is more peace, joy upliftment. If there is challenges in life, solutions are synchronistically presented. The mind becomes clear and there is then clarity for a right response to a given situation. You can also create from this space. DeDukshyn mentioned gratitude, appreciation & praise to create in the now for positive future potentials. These qualities resonate, uplift as they carry high vibrations, they are tools to use to create positively.

Working with but not overly focussing on vibrations can aid with discrimination and truth. I know if something I ingest raises my vibrations or lowers them or is of benefit to my body essence or not, as I can feel my heart expand and my kundalini rise when I eat that of a high vibration. This ensures that I can make good choices for my comfort.

Examples of some personal vibrational raises for me are nature, certain music and art. Food examples are; borax, mushroom powders, propolis and neem powder. If I come across an item that is low vibrational, I focus on source and focus on the item and the vibrations do raise. Helpful when eating food that is not high due to whatever manipulation.

Low vibrations for me, are from EMF's and constant negative thinking.

One matter that has come to light from my experiences (and that of others) with heart expansions and source downloads, is that manipulations in this reality are many. One area is interdimensional and this manipulation can be from a frequency (consciousness/dimensional field) that is what we would consider to be very high.

We can, through these aforementioned ancient and effective practices, expand the heart and raise our vibrations out of this manipulation. Which is in essence what this thread is about.

We can do this while we have a choice, we may not in the future, though there are those that are keeping the heart consciousness fields open for humanity to prevent any further downfall.

There could be more.

Thank you to all who post. I do enjoy reading informative posts. They encourage discussion. I can't always reply but I do read them all. :heart:

[Zirconian]

Here is an example of someone living every day, perfectly in the heart. Despite ups and downs, she feels heart source and responds from this space. She inspires and uplifts, that is her heart vibration. :heart::flower:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxvJKC-YDSA

[Trisher]

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Here is a video of Masuro Emoto capturing the changes in water when words are spoken and music is played to it. He shows the imbalances created through lack of life-force and negative thinking. We have a high percentage of water in our bodies which can be treated and healed from illness through the right frequency of water. Tap water shows no life-force at all.

Trisher

[Mashika]

Quote from Sasha



i want to say something about my previous post. I purposely added some "low frequency" thoughts here:



I can tell you this, i explained why frequencies were not a way to become aware or understand or grow out of the "illusion", and all i got was explanations about nothing at all, no one really gave it a second thought, and that's why i grew so frustrated. All i got back was the same old tired concepts that no one can really explain but continually repeat. Even after i explained why "raising/lowering" of frequencies did not make sense, the talk about "raising" your frequencies kept going on, which just means no one listened

Everyone can hear, but only a few listen

Just as a way to show that high/low frequency stuff doesn't mean much in the long term, as far as spiritual growth. My words are full of arrogance and ego, and self entitlement, these were low frequency feelings and if someone reads that then it may cause some feelings, which are just not going to take knowledge or growth out of your own path, or mine, it's just a temporary thing and even then it allows people to grow by experiencing the low, eventually it also leads to a high. Is not important if it was low or high frequency feelings or thoughts, both lead to spiritual growth

I had read something related to this some time ago but forgot where, i found the link today, in case someone would like to have a look. I kind of reached the same conclusion some years ago, but i'm not able to explain it as clearly as this guy did
https://medium.com/swlh/why-i-stopped-fretting-about-my-spiritual-frequency-331518f17a52


Raising your frequency higher and higher is often interpreted to mean that you’re awakening and ascending, becoming more aligned with God or Spirit than you were before. Having healing breakthroughs, experiencing energy and light, dissolving old patterns, and enjoying sudden insights into your own mind — these are all wonderful experiences and should be applauded and met with grace and appreciation. It means you’re actually doing the hard work of diving into your past. That’s the work of healing.

But there’s a trap. You can start to fall into a false sense of “progress” on your spiritual path, as if it were a kind of linear trajectory, always rising to a higher vibrational frequency. After some deep healing experience, you believe that you’ve reached a certain height. And you become attached to it. It’s important to you that you stay at this vibe; your frequency starts to have a deeper meaning for you — an identity. You start to develop a new sense of self around this: You are a “high vibe” person.

By having this “high vibe” identity, you tend to police its boundaries, making sure you don’t come in contact with people who might bring you down.


One of the things i dislike the most about the use of "frequency" as a way to measure your spiritual state is that a lot of people have lost themselves in the path by just focusing on increasing or "raising" their frequencies and somehow expecting this will align them with the universe or create a happy experience and life, but that's just losing time, confusing the practice with the end goal takes you completely away from reaching the truth. And then it leads to ideas such as "if you eat meat or have dark thoughts of feelings, you lower your frequency", and that has nothing much to do with spiritual growth, it is a human ideal, not a spiritual one.

Killing a dangerous spider doesn't lower your frequency or vibration, yet i have seen people avoiding it because they think it will stop their spiritual growth. They are so worried about keeping their vibration high that they forgot why it was needed in the first place, or that it didn't 100% related to becoming wiser or more aligned with the universe. "Confused the path with the destination" or some similar words were used to describe this situation

Thanks for your consideration, best wishes to all

:heart::heart::heart:

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Thank you Sasha

There are pitfalls on every spiritual path we take in seeking connection to Source. We can lean on the tool we use too heavily and forget that the tool is just that..a tool. A tool is a boat that only takes us across the river to the other side, then when we reach the other side we have to get out of the boat, dropping the tool and walk that last bit on our own.

However we do not throw out the tool because we have the potential to become attached to it. All tools can become attachments. All tools also have the potential to lead us to the part where we step out of the boat.

Frequencies and vibrations are an integral part of our world in which everything has a frequency. Each plant and tree has one. Each essential oil has one and Rose Absolute purportedly has the highest. People who sit and think about a plant or a tree will bring that resonance to them. Anyone thinking about upsetting things and darker issues will bring that to them as well. Its a choice and yes it matters because we spread that negativity or light around us to others. We leave a trail of that energy wherever we walk. We fill a room with it. It goes into everything we own and everything we create. I have felt sick to my stomach with a meal created by people who were deep in thought about something upsetting. The food we eat also impacts on vibration. Being mindful of what we do, think and say is important for our wellbeing.

I was out on a woodland walk the other day. The river was flowing fast from recent rains and the sun brought out rainbows. It was beautiful. On the way back I passed a couple with a dog. Suddenly as I walked onwards I felt nauseous and a huge sadness enveloped me. I stepped to the side of the path as I realised that the trail they had left behind them on the path was creating that feeling in me. I was having to clear it as I went along. They were completely unaware of their impact. For sensitive people the world is a minefield and of course they will seek out what makes them feel good energetically and avoid that which does not. If that aspect of life is ignored by people as unimportant then it can lead to illness and depression. A low vibration is one of the causes of ill health. Just for that reason alone it is important to be mindful of how things make us feel energetically.

Looking at nature we see bees affected by EMF frequencies and whales beaching themselves because of sonic frequencies emitted by various underwater craft. We see less birds flying where there are masts and plants are stunted in growth. Our own gut bacteria dies with the wrong frequency. People can be healed and balanced with the right frequencies (Rife/spooky machines).

A frequency/vibration is something we all experience in many different ways and it matters deeply. We all have responsibility for what we put out into the world. Do we really want to say that it doesn't matter at all if we are constantly angry, jealous, fearful, dominating etc as opposed to loving, peaceful, joyful? I doubt that.

Trisher

I wish i could reply to this without sounding difficult of hard to reach, but i can't, so i'm not, just this one thing



A frequency/vibration is something we all experience in many different ways and it matters deeply.

Here's, if i can possibly describe, one of the main issues with the understanding of it all

We don't experience it, we "are it". Have you experienced your cells reproducing or your mind indicating specifically to each cell and then from there up to the muscles to cause a reaction so that your finger moves and presses a key on your screen or keyboard? And this is why i said before, that i learned that i could not use my own soul as a tool for growing

Remember we are talking about the matrix, all those experiences you mentioned, are very much tailored to what you need to see, so you believe you have run through a path to achieve something. What's that something you have achieved?

In the context of living within the Matrix, does that makes sense?



There are pitfalls on every spiritual path we take in seeking connection to Source.

The problem is that the idea is that if we are in the Matrix, then this connection you feel you have is not with Source, but with the Matrix, which is faking being the real source in such a good way that we can't see the difference at all (because we can only see the Matrix and its own rules)



I was out on a woodland walk the other day

Maybe, but how do you know it really happened?



Suddenly as I walked onwards I felt nauseous and a huge sadness enveloped me. I stepped to the side of the path as I realised that the trail they had left behind them on the path was creating that feeling in me. I was having to clear it as I went along. They were completely unaware of their impact. For sensitive people the world is a minefield and of course they will seek out what makes them feel good energetically and avoid that which does not. If that aspect of life is ignored by people as unimportant then it can lead to illness and depression. A low vibration is one of the causes of ill health. Just for that reason alone it is important to be mindful of how things make us feel energetically.Suddenly as I walked onwards I felt nauseous and a huge sadness enveloped me. I stepped to the side of the path as I realised that the trail they had left behind them on the path was creating that feeling in me. I was having to clear it as I went along. They were completely unaware of their impact. For sensitive people the world is a minefield and of course they will seek out what makes them feel good energetically and avoid that which does not. If that aspect of life is ignored by people as unimportant then it can lead to illness and depression. A low vibration is one of the causes of ill health. Just for that reason alone it is important to be mindful of how things make us feel energetically.

Once, i met a few friends at a bar, not long ago but like 2 years or so, after the bar closed we went to the after party, at some building far away from the city. Once we got there and stepped out to the building, i could feel death all over the place, it was so sad and the air so dry and it was easy to feel that nasty feeling of pain and lack of air and the "dark" spots. I have seen that before too many times. I told my friends i could not go inside that place, and we all drove off.

I know a bit about that stuff, and that's why i feel that normal life experiences are not low vibe, they just are. Real low vibration is something completely else, like violent deaths release an extreme pressure on earth that remains for decades sometimes.

Spiritual anger is extreme as well, if you can, you can feel it on the air, on the spot. Empathy allows for that, most people can't do, but maybe you can? But what i really want to say is that this is not low/high vibration, this is human nature. You can feel both, you should not avoid the low ones, it just takes you into a path of not knowing the full experience of being alive, you miss all the reasons to understand really what light is all about

If you shoot someone while trying to save your life, that generates a ton of low vibration. You just shot someone, there's blood and hurt and the air gets poisoned of nasty feelings of hate and darkness and other things you don't want to know about, ever. But you are still alive and can keep going and all your family will be happy to see you again and you go to school and keep a live and so so so on. I don't know how to explain this anymore than this

Life is not black and white, frequencies are not high and low, it doesn't matter at all for the real purpose of life. but i again, fail to explain

Did you look at the link i posted, i found it interesting. Maybe because i had reached similar thoughts before but i don't know, i did not ever looked for other opinions about it so hard to see beyond my own bias

[Mashika]

Here is an example of someone living every day, perfectly in the heart. Despite ups and downs, she feels heart source and responds from this space. She inspires and uplifts, that is her heart vibration. :heart::flower:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxvJKC-YDSA

Yes, but this could also be a deep fake, you know? computer generated video, which we can do today easliy

Your original question was that "are we in the matrix and if so how do we get out"

This person doesn't exist, for example. It was generated by a computer

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

Every time you reload the page a different "person" will show up. None of them exist in real life

What was the original questioning about life? If you allow i will reply point by point through your previous answer, i found it interesting but need some time to reply, please bear with me for a bit :)

[Trisher]

Hello Sasha

Here is a quote of yours from an earlier post on this thread.

If there's a Matrix, that moment came from 'outside', that's all i can say about it, because an artificial thing, would not ever be capable of what i experienced. I have never seen or felt that again.

I will keep this brief. We cannot know what another experiences. However we firmly know what we ourselves experience. I trust that I connect to Source. You have to decide for yourself Sasha.

Trisher :flower:

[Mashika]

Hello Sasha

Here is a quote of yours from an earlier post on this thread.

If there's a Matrix, that moment came from 'outside', that's all i can say about it, because an artificial thing, would not ever be capable of what i experienced. I have never seen or felt that again.

I will keep this brief. We cannot know what another experiences. However we firmly know what we ourselves experience. I trust that I connect to Source. You have to decide for yourself Sasha.

Trisher :flower:

Hi Trisher,

I understand, however the question still remains

IF the Matrix exists, it has to exist within Source. So, how do you know? Instinct is all we have, but yet that can be mislead by knowledge that has been purposely modified to mislead us.

There is this: Unless you a have a way to compare fake against truth, then there' no easy way to know

And the answer to that is mostly: "I know because my soul tells me so"

But then, there is this: If your soul knew, how did you get trapped in the Matrix in the first place?

As i said before, the Matrix can not exist outside Source, it's a completely impossible situation, unless we know less than we think we know about Source

If the first, then we are misleading ourselves, if the latter, we don't have a clue what we are talking about at all

Following our intuition is not an answer, we are biased by default

The entire purpose of the Matrix is to make our perception seem "real". So we don't really know what we ourselves experience because it would be dictated by the Matrix programming. That's the premise of the Matrix

Unless we should stop talking about the Matrix and go into root soul experiences? But if we are following this thread OP about the Matrix then we need to ask those questions, not assume we are not inside, but rather assume we are inside, and if so, how do we know and how do we get out?

[Mashika]

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Hi Sacha Alisa,

Sorry for the late reply but I have been busy recently.

Thank you for your post, you have raised some interesting and pertinent questions, that I feel can best be answered humbly, from my own experience.


Thanks for taking the time to reply, it’s very much appreciated, i love to discuss things and give different opinions, or agree, completely. It makes things so nice and fun, thank you for this <3



My vibrations go up and down every day depending on what I'm thinking, feeling, eating etc. They can also be affected by what others are thinking feeling around me. I feel it is best to be aware of them, as I prefer on average, (average being a key here), to be in a high vibration. A low vibration makes me feel uncomfortable This in essence may help to answer your question, I just choose to feel comfortable. My vibrational choice is uplifting, peaceful and more joyous and it comes from an expanded heart space.

When my vibrations go down, I usually focus through the heart and raise them. I do not overly identify with this process. Any form of over identification or attachment can lead to mind confusion and is not helpful.

Vibrations are frequencies that represent consciousness and life force. Higher vibrations are a result of heart centred practices and of heart centred living & being.

What of someone like me, a person who was raised to protect other people, a solider, someone that had to shoot someone else at some point, to defend other people’s life? Shooting someone, takes you on a completely different path in life, you were prepared for it, and you did it, yet the consequences are for life in ways most people don’t even realize can happen. I’m i low, or high frequency? I explained before why that doesn’t really work. But let me expand on it. I had to shot at someone who attempted to harm little girls, like 12/13 year olds. Once you go past that point, there is a troublesome aspect to all this vibration and frequencies thing

I kept them alive and safe, so they are thankful and their vibrations are high, or frequencies and such, they did not get raped, or molested or died

I got into a lot of trouble, my mind is broken in bits, i never felt the same again. I still have the remorse and all that it goes with it. Yet i feel happy and proud of having the chance to save these little girls.

So what would you say about it? I did the most horrible thing, low frequency and vibration stuff, yet it was for good. There’s no intersection between both?




High vibrations from heart centred practices reflect packed in quantum light consciousness into the cellular structure and raised kundalini from source downloads and an expanded heart space.

High vibrations are a consequence of an expanded heart, consciousness and a raised kundalini. The focus is not necessarily to raise vibrations but to expand the heart. From this expanded heart space you can feel more of the vibrational fields around you. Feeling vibrations is one method to feeling the truth of all things. Nature carries high vibrational fields that we can interact with. If we interact with nature through the heart, we can feel joy and upliftment. However, nature will support and raise our vibrations even if we are distracted.

You are equalling human physical concepts to spiritual ones, this is not the way to go i’m afraid. If you conditionally relate spirituality with human concepts, then you are by association following the rules of our current reality, which is very limited to spiritual reality. In this way, you are basically saying you follow the rules of the Matrix, yet your OP said you were wondering if we are in it, and how to escape it?

See the problem with this association and point of view?



How do we expand the heart?

There are many methods to be in the heart and they are found in videos and posts in this thread and other threads on this site. Examples of threads that are uplifting and heart expanding are from Anka, Cara and Billy's posts on the Mother Mary thread. These are some examples, there are many more.

Methods to expand the heart, raise kundalini and expand consciousness are usually ancient. They are tried and tested and found to be effective. Mindfulness has been scientifically tested, so I would not in any way dismiss them.

Being ancient doesn’t help in real knowledge. I mean look at ancient people in the Bible, they would kill someone just because of different beliefs! (oh way that’s still happening today)

Ancient knowledge is still at question, people ~130 years ago believed nothing heavy than air could fly, then no out of space flights, then no going to mars, and so on



Whatever method one chooses to open the heart space, I would recommend asking for source downloads. I do not know whether the statement is a new way to articulate an ancient method or if it is new but I do know these downloads expand consciousness through the heart and there maybe new potentials in the download to lift humanity, at this present time.

About this, I have some more personal experiences. Rather than just “asking”, it’s more like it’s sent without warning to you, and is not a download, it’s more like being “imprinted” already at born time (you already had it, it was just “activated” at some point) But we should not go into that in this thread, it’s not very relevant.



Why is an expanded heart with the resultant high vibrations beneficial?

I still would ask, or request, that you look more into what High Vibrations really mean, and ask yourself if it really makes sense around your current view of the world, or spirituality. If asked, what or how would you really explain High Vibrations to someone that is 8 years old, for example (see the "why" game, it's really important when talking about these things)



Well, there is more flow in life, there is more peace, joy upliftment. If there is challenges in life, solutions are synchronistically presented. The mind becomes clear and there is then clarity for a right response to a given situation. You can also create from this space. DeDukshyn mentioned gratitude, appreciation & praise to create in the now for positive future potentials. These qualities resonate, uplift as they carry high vibrations, they are tools to use to create positively.

Working with but not overly focussing on vibrations can aid with discrimination and truth. I know if something I ingest raises my vibrations or lowers them or is of benefit to my body essence or not, as I can feel my heart expand and my kundalini rise when I eat that of a high vibration. This ensures that I can make good choices for my comfort.

Examples of some personal vibrational raises for me are nature, certain music and art. Food examples are; borax, mushroom powders, propolis and neem powder. If I come across an item that is low vibrational, I focus on source and focus on the item and the vibrations do raise. Helpful when eating food that is not high due to whatever manipulation.

Low vibrations for me, are from EMF's and constant negative thinking.

What you failed to understand here is, that both hight and low vibration, the way you understand them, are both within Source, so you are just denied the full Source connection by rejecting that which makes you not comfortable, because you are not happy with it. But if it exists, it’s because Source meant it to exist, for one purpose only.

The question is, what’s the purpose of “low vibrations” if it’s not for your own good as well? By rejecting them you have cut your own path short, you just did not realized it yet



One matter that has come to light from my experiences (and that of others) with heart expansions and source downloads, is that manipulations in this reality are many. One area is interdimensional and this manipulation can be from a frequency (consciousness/dimensional field) that is what we would consider to be very high.

We can, through these aforementioned ancient and effective practices, expand the heart and raise our vibrations out of this manipulation. Which is in essence what this thread is about.

We can do this while we have a choice, we may not in the future, though there are those that are keeping the heart consciousness fields open for humanity to prevent any further downfall.


If you go to another dimension, through whichever method,, you are still inside Source, and therefore, also with the Matrix, it’s an illusion, if you follow the same rules applied by your original question on this thread. Then, if we are inside the Matrix, you did not go anywhere at all, but you were mislead into thinking you were

You asked this on your opening post, but i still don’t know what lead you to believe or question “are we in the matrix, and if so, how do we get out”. It puzzles me as your posts so far completely go against that concept of the Matrix.

I would really like to know more what lead you to ask that specific question



There could be more.

Thank you to all who post. I do enjoy reading informative posts. They encourage discussion. I can't always reply but I do read them all. :heart:


There’s always more, the human mind and soul are infinite :heart::heart::heart:



These qualities resonate, uplift as they carry high vibrations, they are tools to use to create positively.

ETA: I kept thinking about this, how would you define being "positive"? In general human terms? I hope you can see where i'm going into. Human perception, and spiritual perception, are not very related, if at all. I can see killing someone to protect my life as something "positive" as do anyone that says "it's for the greater good". But is it?

Human perception clouds judgment of spiritual realities. As long as you apply you current understanding, based on your upbringing, there's a big chance you will miss the true scope of spirituality

Please hear me out for a bit

Low frequencies, or high, are not directly associated with spiritual growth, there's no high or low, i don't know how otherwise to explain this

If you say "your terrible experience made you more experienced or grow spiritually" then you are saying that low vibration made me high vibration, or anyone else who has gone through the same. See?

[Zirconian]

It's been my day off from work today. I have spent the morning doing remote healing on friends. It is a joy after the healings, to hear them say that they feel peace and an ease of their symptoms.

After any healing energy work, there is usually a plane that goes over head and with the technology that is on board, takes the frequencies of me, the house and the surrounding area down. I've learnt how to clear this but I have to ask myself why does it happen on a regular basis particularly when frequencies are raised after healing work.

Speaking of work, I've worked all through covid.
A lot of my energy is taken up with work, though I've learnt to clear the effects of work, to keep my energies buoyant.

When I finish work, I tend to a vegetable plot and keep up as best I can with family and friends. This all takes time.

If you look at the times I post (mostly), it's usually late at night, as this is the only time I can post, or at weekends. When I post late at night, I do then have to get up very early to go to work.

Why do I mention time and energy?

Well sometimes in life you've got to look at where the focus of your energy is and decide whether it is the right area to focus on.

I posted the title of the thread in good faith, based on these words:


The principal purpose of the Avalon Forum:

To encourage and support positive, constructive, and high quality dialog and networking with the goal of creating the future on Planet Earth for ourselves and our children that we want to experience.



The aim of this thread was to discuss what it is that is suppressing (overlaying) source within all things.

What are these suppressions and how can we best manage/dissolve them to ensure that we can access greater potentials to create a better future.

I have enjoyed reading some of the great posts that have contributed to the dialogue within the subject area, however, I seem to spend a lot of time constantly explaining and reiterating my experiences even down to how I articulate my experiences. The very words I use.

To me, this has dried up any meaningful dialogue. I now choose to place my focus elsewhere, where my energy is appreciated and where I enjoy being whilst doing.

Sacha, I feel for your experiences and I hope you can comes to terms with them, accept them and have compassion for yourself. I can't do that for you.

As for me, I have challenges to face and I have solutions for them.
It's been a slog to clear all that covers, suppresses source within me but I'm so pleased I stuck with it and did the hard work.

I'm in my truth and happy to be so.

So, to conclude, I'm now out. Your very welcome to take this thread in the direction you would like it to go. I'm not attached in any way.

I wish you the best.

[Harmony]

:flower:Thank you for sharing what you are experiencing Zirconian. I can imagine it is rewarding to be able to help others with knowledge you have gained. Life is even more challenging right now so I will be thinking of you and glad whenever you can be back when time permits. Your thread has brought more light to what probably challenges us all.:heart:

[Harmony]

Dear Sasha,


I think I know what you are saying. I don't have the answers, and I don't have the science and words, I sure wish I did, that is important.



Those kind of questions I think are on alot of peoples minds. It makes us think about the meaning of life. Why are we here, what can we do or not do?



I sometimes feel we are in "the all" or source and our core self exists at that state of being. Perhaps we are also a character projected into this matrix or temporary reality to learn about ourself and how to use our intentions and energy "how to drive our vehicle" and what the consequences are of our own and others around us. Just like learning to fly with a simulator. If we can't drive our vehicle with "true knowledge" even if we know how it was made and what material it consists of we would be a danger to ourselves and all the envoronment.



"Spiritual", is a word that can have different meanings to different people. Maybe we could call it true knowledge or wisdom that drives our intentions in our matrix school or our "sandbox".



Maybe higher and lower up and down are confusing, just terms we try to use to create a mental picture. I might use the word "essence". What is our energetic essence we predominately hold? How does it make us feel? How might it affect others around us. We can certainly feel others "essence" sometimes. It can be friendly, close, cooperative, helpful where it feels expanded, unconditionally loving and trusting. It can feel agressive and hurtful, bullying, projecting onto another bad feelings. Controlling, I'm right, narcissistic, psychpathic. How does it feel to be with an honourable person you could trust with your life. How does it feel to be with a person that doesn't care how you are affected by what they do? You could go on and on.



Having experiences in our life that are difficult and challenging on many levels can be used to deeply understand "on a soul level" which might also be felt as real knowing that carries with us maybe beyond this life "practice". We can feel what we create or others create can really make a difference.


Some examples through this thread used words like "gratitude". Gratitude "essesnce", feeling that and becoming that essence brought their being into resonance with what ever that "measures" which changed them in measurable ways. I like to just open myself to just feeling what gratitude or unconditional love essence "feels"s like. What does that essence really resonate within our being. What would it feel like if someone held you in that unconditional love essence until you resonated with it and could hold it for yourself and could offer it to others that could also pass it on?



Alot of things happening in the world don't resonate with that essence. Sometimes we need to know what we don't want, to really know what we do want. Maybe we can use or steer our creative abilities to make a difference in the direction or essence we choose.


Sometimes I wonder if we are here in difficult scenarios to see if we can hold our essence without mirroring what is happenning around us. If we want the keys to the powerful vehicle, we have to have the wisdom to drive it first.



As mentioned, I don't have any more answers than any one else. When the challenge of how we live in a "reality" that seems at odds is indeed what we seem to be working on. Real life may need "true knowledge and wisdom" to navigate our lessons in a possible simulator.

[shamballaOn]

After any healing energy work, there is usually a plane that goes over head and with the technology that is on board, takes the frequencies of me, the house and the surrounding area down. I've learnt how to clear this but I have to ask myself why does it happen on a regular basis particularly when frequencies are raised after healing work.

(...)

I have enjoyed reading some of the great posts that have contributed to the dialogue within the subject area, however, I seem to spend a lot of time constantly explaining and reiterating my experiences even down to how I articulate my experiences. The very words I use.

To me, this has dried up any meaningful dialogue. I now choose to place my focus elsewhere, where my energy is appreciated and where I enjoy being whilst doing.

Zirconian,

I have read en studied all your posts on this tread and other treads and they are very valuable for me and for, I guess, a lot of others.

So when you write about the plane that is trying to sabotage your efforts and vibration.. could it be that the same happens on this forum? Conscious or unconscious.

I hope you stay and share your methods of raising your vibration and by doing so helping others to be on a positive timeline.

You could start a tread to share your thoughts and ask in the beginning of the tread for no discussion. That way you can share your wisdom without having to explain yourself and without any planes flying over that tread.

I for sure would look forward to such a tread..

---

shamballaOn

[Trisher]

After any healing energy work, there is usually a plane that goes over head and with the technology that is on board, takes the frequencies of me, the house and the surrounding area down. I've learnt how to clear this but I have to ask myself why does it happen on a regular basis particularly when frequencies are raised after healing work.

(...)

I have enjoyed reading some of the great posts that have contributed to the dialogue within the subject area, however, I seem to spend a lot of time constantly explaining and reiterating my experiences even down to how I articulate my experiences. The very words I use.

To me, this has dried up any meaningful dialogue. I now choose to place my focus elsewhere, where my energy is appreciated and where I enjoy being whilst doing.

Zirconian,

I have read en studied all your posts on this tread and other treads and they are very valuable for me and for, I guess, a lot of others.

So when you write about the plane that is trying to sabotage your efforts and vibration.. could it be that the same happens on this forum? Conscious or unconscious.

I hope you stay and share your methods of raising your vibration and by doing so helping others to be on a positive timeline.

You could start a tread to share your thoughts and ask in the beginning of the tread for no discussion. That way you can share your wisdom without having to explain yourself and without any planes flying over that tread.

I for sure would look forward to such a tread..

---

shamballaOn

I agree ShamballaOn. There are very few threads (if any) that offer such effective solutions for uncovering Source within. For those that are actually truly seeking to overcome the very real clamping effects of the Matrix reality on their connection to all that is then this thread has many solutions. There never is a one size fits all. This is not about a belief system or about thinking, it is first and foremost action. It is obvious that Zirconian has discovered a way through and is sharing that knowledge that for them is an actual experience, not a theory or a belief, but an actual doing and Being of going beyond and connecting outside the Matrix. Not everyone uses the same words to describe spiritual experiences but it is quite possible to translate them over into whatever our individual experiences are. The words used should not be an issue. We can recognise within those descriptions of states of Being, things that we ourselves have actually experienced.

There have been some really good posts from others here who have also shared their experiences and discoveries.

I see a real need to share these experiences of how we get down to the nitty gritty of making ourselves clear, how to raise vibrations, how to connect to Source and the all that is. Some things may matter more to some people ..like how to clear EMF's, what foods to eat and essential oils to use to keep up vibrations etc. This thread could still facilitate that valuable sharing of positive ideas and the discoveries of others and an opening up of many solutions and potentials.

Trisher :flower:

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Zircconium.

Do not be discouraged, or do....I don't know.

Trying to break free of the matrix is disheartening at the best of times. And yes, the blow back escalates the harder you try. I have learnt this the hard way. I no longer try to break free. It is not why I am here. But for the longest time I thought it was. It was a frustrating twenty years to say the least.

I do not know the workings of this level of reality, I cannot put my finger on the crux of the problem. But I can easily step over the problem, circumventing it entirely. Each time I was beaten back to a low level and got over the latest defeat, I would feel much better, like a weight had been removed from my soul. I was sad at the failure but happy with my reconstitution.

I have learned that the work is important but not necessary. It is not why we are here. We are here to be authentic, that's all. You do not need enlightenment for that. We just need to open our hearts and you do not need to be a master for that either.

Mastery is way over-rated in this world because of the complication and sophistication that we take to be so authoritative. It is so tantalizing that it is mesmerizing. We are under the spell of thought, of words in an order that are not conducive to love. We like our sophistication because we believe it gives us authority and that that same sophistication moves us to the level of gods - it does not.

The greatest masters amongst us are not even known. They are the silent ones who do what needs to be done because it is the right thing to do. They love and give of themselves endlessly without complaint and without fanfare or fame. We just don't hear of them. And most of these true masters are not enlightened as we understand the term. They simply are good people and do good because it feels good, and because it is right.

I prefer this sort of mastery. The intellectualism of enlightenment is doomed to fail because it is the mind that is conflicted and it is the mind that holds us secure in the matrix. You cannot use the tool that holds us here to free yourself.

It's all about heart.

[Zirconian]

Thank you Harmony, ShamballaOn and Trisher for your posts.

Trisher you've very neatly summarised the purpose of this thread. and I'm reposting your words.


I agree ShamballaOn. There are very few threads (if any) that offer such effective solutions for uncovering Source within. For those that are actually truly seeking to overcome the very real clamping effects of the Matrix reality on their connection to all that is then this thread has many solutions. There never is a one size fits all. This is not about a belief system or about thinking, it is first and foremost action. It is obvious that Zirconian has discovered a way through and is sharing that knowledge that for them is an actual experience, not a theory or a belief, but an actual doing and Being of going beyond and connecting outside the Matrix. Not everyone uses the same words to describe spiritual experiences but it is quite possible to translate them over into whatever our individual experiences are. The words used should not be an issue. We can recognise within those descriptions of states of Being, things that we ourselves have actually experienced.

There have been some really good posts from others on this thread who have also shared their positive experiences and discoveries.

I see a real need to share these experiences of how we get down to the nitty gritty of making ourselves clear, how to raise vibrations, how to connect to Source and the all that is. Some things may matter more to some people ..like how to clear EMF's, what foods to eat and essential oils to use to keep up vibrations etc. This thread could still facilitate that valuable sharing of positive ideas and the discoveries of others and an opening up of many solutions and potentials.

……...and thank you to those who post constructively, you have greatly contributed to this thread. It is good to share.





I agree with Trisher, there really is a need right now to share experiences of how we can connect to source, particularly at this time when EMF smog is effecting the human energy field and therefore the ability of those who choose the heart path to uncover source within.

This is not by chance. This is clever manipulation. We are in a time when revealing source within and being this in all we do will positively effect those around us, Gaian consciousness and the future of humanity. There are those who wish to prevent this.

So, I feel there is a need to share our experiences, I'm not comfortable with the idea to start a thread and ask for no discussion, though I do understand why the idea has been proposed. However, the thread would loose valued contributions from those who truly understand the work to be done from the heart to reveal source within.

Also, this thread really is about how my experiences have garnered solutions which could empower others, if they so choose. It's about pathways, solutions and potentials, not about me. I would have dearly liked more contributors whilst I value those who have posted positively.

I am busy and do not have the time to keep repeating or justifying the pathways that have been revealed through my work and by learning from others at the level of the heart.

I am open to discussing these pathways and solutions, as I feel they will help empower others which is all I have ever intended.

However, I don't have the time to post regularly or to repeatedly justify myself. I'm not attached to this thread. I post solutions, it is up to the reader to decide if it is beneficial for them or not.

I also do not feel any negativity when I read criticism directed towards me.

Why do I not feel any emotions at criticism?

Well this is a surprise to me. I just seen to now naturally feel a peace when I read a personal criticism. I have been doing more clearing whilst on this thread, as sometimes the energy of what you read can lower vibrations and that has been key.

I do now know that the Christina Von Drien clearing exercise has been a per-curser to the peace I feel when personally criticised. I would advise anyone interested to go through these exercises. Very effective. When I do distant healing on friends, I give to them Christina's clearing exercises. This empowers them to do for themselves and it makes the healing session more effective. I'm having great results with source healing my friends after they have completed the Christina exercise.


Ernie Nemeth

I'm not discouraged or disheartened, just busy and need to choose what I focus on. I too have had blow backs in life, they are good for learning, if one chooses to find positive solutions.

I'm not really interested in labels of master or mastery, though I do recognise that there are those such as Sadguru who are in bliss and have great wisdom from their spiritual endeavours.

I'm into feeling source within and experiencing. Being whilst doing. Positively contributing.

I do see those humbly working from the heart space. As an example, I've spent a few years working in a hospice and have been in awe of some of the nurses who work caring for the dying. These wonderful heart based souls can indeed be found are all over this world, thank goodness and for that I'm very grateful.

I do know you can rise above manipulated dimensions (matrix) through going within to source. Going within, raises vibrations above these manipulated dimensions. You can only do this from the heart. Mind programs (ego) are also part of the matrix. You cannot reveal source within from just the mind alone.

The heart pathway has been mentioned many times on this thread. :heart:

I'm content. I regularly feel joy and peace. I have had my fair share of things to endure. I'm not perfect but I do feel source and I do have solutions.

Anyone can move away from distractions and manipulations and reveal source within for that is what we truly are.:flower:

[Mashika]

I'm into feeling source within and experiencing. Being whilst doing. Positively contributing.

Since you refused to listen and go through the full Source experience, by saying "i like my own truth", while not even being able to know if that's the real one or not, then i doubt this very much. But that's up to you really, in the end

In the end, you were from "are we in the Matrix? and if so how do we get out?" to "i did not need to know, i only wanted to you discuss this for some reason even if it's not my real purpose on this thread and i don't want to tell what i said i was going to tell you about", to finally end into "i don't care and my real purpose was totally different and i don't need to explain myself to you, but this has nothing to do with the matrix at all, ever". that's basically it

Just a word of advice, even if you think i could never know enough as you do, because of whatever criteria you have in your life that has determined my test and words were bad and against whatever you think Source means or is. And if you take my age as as criteria to acknowledge or dismiss my throughs or reasons to say or be, then:

"If you think you know more than someone else and throw away what they said, then you don't know as much as you though you knew"

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Even though you failed badly the test i put in front of you, I really wish you the best

Why did i test you, would you ask? Because you asked for something you did not really care about, and that's ego, even if you think you don't have it

I can do the same, see? I was all about it until you though i was terrible and started acting and feeling in the way you are feeling and thinking, which, if you appreciate, means you have not grown as much as you thought you were before, but this is all up to you, how you handle whatever is put out there that doesn't conform to your already appreciated knowledge is only up to you. In the real world, is not just my way or the highway, but you know that already

Don't think i'm dumb just because of my age or because i'm not in your inner knowledge circle. The world turns around for everyone else at the same time as it does for you

"Positive and constructive" doesn't mean only things that agree with your path, you may be completely on the wrong one and yet there will be people who clap and push you forward. But keep going anyways, if it makes you happy it's ok

Since i'm being terrible and probably will gain the hate of may members here and anyone else who reads my words now and in the future, i wish to post this as a way to say, this is what my heart feels right now, but only because i can completely see you missed all i wanted to show you and just focused on the bad words, totally and absolutely without any moment to attempt at understanding what i was really trying to tell you, and that really made me sad.

In the end, it was a game of one-up-manship, because of course, how could i ever know more than you with so many years of experience, more than i've been alive, right? doesn't make sense at all

So here you go

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Perception, is the wrong path to take, when you try to discover reality. I guess you could turn that back to me, but but

:thumbsup::heart::flower::bearhug:

Bye Bye

[Zirconian]

44400

I would just like to draw the attention to those who are interested in dissolving suppressive frequencies by consciousness expansion, raising vibrations to co create a positive world, to this lady and her book.

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Olga Sheean.

You can see from the picture she is radiating higher consciousness, that of love and from reading her book, she is being and doing, walking her talk.

When you tune in, she is truly energetically clear in EMF fields and she is positively managing her life in an EMF world, though she has sensitivities. She has also recovered from a tumour.
Those who like Sheldrake and Dispenza will enjoy her description as to how she actively applied their approaches to consciousness.

I've included a summery of her book.

She has solutions.




A wireless wake-up call, with a message for all of humanity.

Radiation from wireless technologies now spans the globe, affecting all forms of life.

The resulting electromagnetic fields (EMFs) are causing epidemics of illness, addictions and disorders that often fail to be attributed to the true underlying cause.
With humour, insights and discoveries from the forefront of modern science, this book tells a profoundly personal story, revealing the deeper truth about our love affair with technology, why governments are hiding the facts, and how neuroplasticity and quantum physics are transforming our perception of reality and our capacity to transform our personal and planetary health.

This book will help you, whether you have been knowingly affected by EMFs or not.
It is divided into four parts:

1. The story of harm: This includes my personal story of how I have been affected by EMFs and what I have learned, in the process (with some rather quirky humour).

2. Fighting for our lives:This section presents the science on electromagnetic fields (EMFs), a medical explanation of electro-sensitivity, what you can do to enhance your well-being and personal environment, and some of the legal and other measures I have taken to address the issue.

3. Uncovering the deeper truth: I explore the deeper dynamics—what’s driving our reactive, addictive, self-destructive behaviour, our lives and our realities, and how we can give ourselves what we have been missing.

4. The call to consciousness
This section offers empowered solutions for reclaiming our health, our autonomy and our life, combined with a call to consciousness designed to put us back in touch with our phenomenal co-creative powers and a deeper understanding of what we are being called upon to do.

[Trisher]

44400

I would just like to draw the attention to those who are interested in dissolving suppressive frequencies by consciousness expansion, raising vibrations to co create a positive world, to this lady and her book.

44401

Olga Sheean.

You can see from the picture she is radiating higher consciousness, that of love and from reading her book, she is being and doing, walking her talk.

When you tune in, she is truly energetically clear in EMF fields and she is positively managing her life in an EMF world, though she has sensitivities. She has also recovered from a tumour.
Those who like Sheldrake and Dispenza will enjoy her description as to how she actively applied their approaches to consciousness.

I've included a summery of her book.

She has solutions.




A wireless wake-up call, with a message for all of humanity.

Radiation from wireless technologies now spans the globe, affecting all forms of life.

The resulting electromagnetic fields (EMFs) are causing epidemics of illness, addictions and disorders that often fail to be attributed to the true underlying cause.
With humour, insights and discoveries from the forefront of modern science, this book tells a profoundly personal story, revealing the deeper truth about our love affair with technology, why governments are hiding the facts, and how neuroplasticity and quantum physics are transforming our perception of reality and our capacity to transform our personal and planetary health.

This book will help you, whether you have been knowingly affected by EMFs or not.
It is divided into four parts:

1. The story of harm: This includes my personal story of how I have been affected by EMFs and what I have learned, in the process (with some rather quirky humour).

2. Fighting for our lives:This section presents the science on electromagnetic fields (EMFs), a medical explanation of electro-sensitivity, what you can do to enhance your well-being and personal environment, and some of the legal and other measures I have taken to address the issue.

3. Uncovering the deeper truth: I explore the deeper dynamics—what’s driving our reactive, addictive, self-destructive behaviour, our lives and our realities, and how we can give ourselves what we have been missing.

4. The call to consciousness
This section offers empowered solutions for reclaiming our health, our autonomy and our life, combined with a call to consciousness designed to put us back in touch with our phenomenal co-creative powers and a deeper understanding of what we are being called upon to do.

Thank you Zirconian. I will be getting this book. There are far too many books with all the bad news and very few with solutions. This is one of the solutions that Christina Von Dreien speaks about in her book 3. You cannot solve a problem from the same place it was created, therefore taking your vibration way higher than the EMFs is truly a wake up call. Olga is also walking her talk as her vibration when tuned into is high.

Trisher

[Zirconian]

I was pondering...…

Olga Sheean's book would be great for targeted individuals. I truly believe it would be a good handbook to guide a person through methods to raise their frequencies above the EMF frequencies that are specifically directed into the targeted persons body.

I've compiled a list of tools for the EMF sensitive.
The list applies for targeting.
Take what you feel is appropriate for you.

Cayenne pepper (takes out the EMF electrical charge) Use in an emergency.

Peppermint oil ( a few drops in an oil such as olive oil. Take orally. (Aromatologist can advise) This boosts and protects the auric field. Use once everyday. Take care if taking certain medications.

Rosemary oil does the same. (Not sure why these oils work well with EMF's and/or targeting. Maybe they push your personal vibration above the EMF's. Does feel like that). Last for approx. 4 hrs.

Buy a Spooky set (It is based on Rife technology). Set to Spooky Spectrum sweep. The frequencies from the sweep bounce out EMF's from the body (and that goes for direct targeting hits from aircraft etc)
The set is named after a statement from Einstein.

Use a magnet to ground a few times a day.

If you are into crystals....carry Herkeimer diamond and place a ruby on the back of your neck...….frequently. Herkeimer is very high vibrational and as such can clear & lift personal vibrations.

Listen to music frequencies.....such as Solfeggio. Good for pineal gland clearing.

Take regular Epsom salt baths. This removes frequencies and nano particles.

Find a place that sells Borax. Follow the instructions carefully. I think it is a teaspoon in a litre of water and take 5mls twice a day, Please check that. I used to have hexagonal shapes on the side of my feet (nanos). With the combination of borax and Epsom baths the shapes have flattened & faded.

To get personal frequencies back up and high, take neem powder with turmeric powder.

Mushroom powders build up the immune system. Lions mane mushroom powder really gets the human energy field back up and blasting.

Your body will need aminos. EMf's take them out.

Christina Von Dreien's clearing protocol that is found in this thread is proving to be very effective amongst those that I know.....and I mean really effective. Highly recommend it. The protocol clears, attachments and implants etc.

Nature has a very strong vibe now. Very supportive.

I'm posting, with the intention of helping those who are EMF sensitive and those who are targeted.

If anyone else can add to this list, I'd appreciate it:flower:

There are solutions.:heart:
We can do this

[Zirconian]

Trisher,

Just posted about Christina's clearings. I'm reading book 2.
Thanks for the positive post.

[Haujean Contactee]

Humanity is genetic project and the progeny of 9 extraterrestrial races. Our solar system has been transformed multiple times to support life on planets such as Mars, Venus, Earth, and a large super earth sized planet that was destroyed which accounts for a substantial portion of our asteroid belt. Our planet is a biological library representing life that has been brought here through the process of directed panspermia. The norm in the multiverse is for intelligent life to create other intelligent life under the observation and guidance of Source. Humanity is a fledgling race and a host for an extraterrestrial soul seeding program. This program was and will always be in conflict with the will of Source. This program is multifaceted, multilayered and complex. One facet involves the staging of engineered lifetimes were citizens of the Galactic Federation (starseeds) are placed here with their memories of self blocked in order to live out a full human life cycle where birth, adulthood, and death are experienced to restore balance in the soul in order to heal from the degradation caused by perpetual youthful adulthood that lacks the full life cycle designed by Source that is necessary to create balance in the personality makeup of all intelligent sentient beings. While there are many facets to this program that are still unknown, there is one that emerges which suggests that Earth is being used as a spiritual prison for souls that refuse to remain in container bodies within the Galactic Federation. This is likely one of several reasons behind for this portion of the program. The ET soul seeding program uses the container bodies of human beings as hosts and the planet as as hosting ground which makes it necessary to enforce a "Planetary Simulation" which is a technologically based augmented reality where our psychic birthright and our oneness with Source has been blocked in order for the extraterrestrial planetary engineers of the Galactic Federation to carry out and enforce this program upon the planet and the human population. The largest facet of the program involves the forced soul recycling and reincarnation of the native soul population with their memory of self blocked which is necessary for the entire program to succeed in order to serve the needs of the ET presence or Galactic Federation. This dual purpose program was set up to solve a temporary shortage of terraformed worlds that serve the Galactic Federations need for engineered worlds encapsulated in planetary simulations for the reasons that I described previously. The good news is that his program is in the early stages of being terminated. The planetary simulation is being gradually decreased. And the signs of it are all around us. What we are seeing and experiencing is chaos across the world which is a result of the human race being reconnected to Source and to the collective subconscious group mind which is beginning to manifest by an increase in human intuition. This and the rapid flow of information thanks to the world wide web has become the driving force behind a global human awakening. One that the ruling class of this planet is attempting to stop by sewing chaos and confusion, as they rush to clamp down on human rights in order to enforce a technological prison of the mind and body as the human race begins to wake up in order to maintain control over us. The financial elites that continue to keep the presence of our cosmic neighbors a secret in order to enforce a failed carbon based economic system have long been aware that that the extraterrestrials have had a plan to end their control and usher in a new paradigm. And they are taking illegal measures to suppress anyone that they see as an influential threat to their system of control. I received a psychic download late last year that detailed a plan of disclosure and planetary social engineering involving starseeds and Light Workers native to the planet that act as the Galactic Federation's "boots on the ground" that will guide humanity on a self sustaining path throughout the transition that is taking place. The most important message in this download was that "humanity must save itself" with the aid of the extraterrestrials and under the guidance and aid of Source.

[Delight]

How can one avoid seeing that the matrix depends on our minds to maintain its construction?
There seem to be forces (in which we are enmeshed) that look polarized and have names like Luciferian/ Ahrimanic and may need deconstruction but maybe NOT?
There is probably the most insidious mechanism keeping us in the matrix as given with all its constructed parameters (material and metamaterial) ... the BASIC belief that we NEED it.

Magic has always been about changing consciousness at will.

IMO understanding our psyche and having some mastery of magic is a form of our very own original organic Technology.

This book has been popular for some.....

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[Delight]

We REALLY need to be practicing magic at this point to continue having free will IMO. Why were the pagans all destroyed? Why ARE we cautioned away from self responsibility and danger? Politics and World events are a way of describing the Matrix.


INTERVIEW WITH THE MAGUS: BLUEFLUKE AND THE COMPLETE PSYCHONAUT FIELD MANUAL (https://www.auricmedia.net/interview-with-the-magus-bluefluke-and-the-complete-psychonaut-field-manual/)

What effect and focus do you think magic should have upon politics and world events?

A: We’re all aware of Masonry’s legacy, throwing down the great kings of the earth and founding the democracies we live under today. They kept the ultra rich from seats of power and forced gender/racial equality when it was being cock blocked by zealotous jackasses. But because of Masonry’s massive decline there is no longer a collective force to keep corporations and the ultra rich from raping the body populace. It may be wise to emulate their model to some extent in order to keep our society from either devolving into a cyberpunk-esque dystopian hellscape or crumbling to ruin.

While this endeavour would require unprecedented cooperation by the occults great houses, it may be our last chance to right this battered ship. Occupy failed. Anonymous failed. The meme war campaign is a ****ing joke. We have one last option to right the course and not long before that option will leave the board. We need to act, now.

Do YOU believe in magic?

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[Zirconian]

Haujean Contactee.

Thank you for your detailed post explaining your perspective. I respect the time it has taken to construct.
All our views on reality and what we perceive as a pathway forward for humanity are many and varied.

I can only speak and offer from experience, though I acknowledge our experiences in this reality can also differ widely from each other.

My experience of source works for me day to day, in that a life which may not be easy at times, is traversed well with a general contentment and peace and that when problems arise, solutions can be found. This does not mean that everyday is a great day, the mind is tricky but overall, there is contentment.

I post my experiences, not to persuade, just to offer an experience to ponder. However, it is an experience that does seem to offer effective solutions for those that are interested.

My experience of source is that it is a void within. It is no thing and as such has no will but it does respond with solutions, when asked, if our intent is pure. These solutions can synchronistcally reveal themselves in our reality for our benefit.

I do not know about a galactic federation or what it's role is in our destiny.

ET's, well that is a huge subject. My experience has led me to believe that the ET's and interdimensional beings that are close to our dimension of experience are not in humanities best interest. They know we are in a dimensional hack that is supressing this reality from finding source within and they are complicit, along with some humans. Though I am very open to your experience and to other peoples experiences on this matter.

What ever this reality is, I do know there is a positive trajectory, is it for all? I do not know. I wish it to be so.

Hi Delight,

Your posts are always interesting.
For me, in my twenties, when I used to do healings, I always felt something at the back of the neck that always seemed to need much healing intent. It was not until a few years back that I and others, understood what it was. There seems to be a holographic insert there and a connection. The connection seems to be to a mind construct within these probable hacked dimensions.

I am concluding that this mind construct we (may/are) all connected to, is what is termed the ego (mind programs) that suppress/distract us from love, the heart and source.

The hack creates a low vibrational, suppressive and nefarious overlay within via this mind connection which then distorts our perception without. This may have created what we term duality, an overlay of source within everything but I don't know that.

I've never got into magic practice, though many do.
For me personally, I work with the heart to positively effect my perception of reality.

[TomKat]

We REALLY need to be practicing magic at this point to continue having free will IMO.

I'm afraid of the law of unintended consequences. Gary Douglas teaches it's better to ask questions of the universe ("how does it get better than this?") than to make demands ("so mote it be!").

[Zirconian]

………..or we could vibrationally rise, through conscious intent by finding source and love within, and therefore perceive above the mind distractions, programs, suppressions and the hack.:heart:

[Trisher]

My experience of Source/void/all that is etc is an empty-full space filled with potentials before they are manifested. We are that Source in essence. The Source comes before all other things. There are no stories in Source.

The choice would be to fight what has already been manifested or connect within to Source for solutions that take us beyond what we perceive as the problem. It cannot be done with thinking but with heart through feeling.

Whatever we see as an imprisonment or a block or an attack etc can be dealt with simply by connection to Source and raising vibration and requesting solutions. Negativity does not stay around the light filled positivity.

We energise (and lose energy to ) the things we think about. Going against anything will give it energy to thrive more. Going beyond things by raising vibration is taking solutions from above and beyond 3D reality.

Trisher :flower:

[Trisher]

I was pondering...…

Olga Sheean's book would be great for targeted individuals. I truly believe it would be a good handbook to guide a person through methods to raise their frequencies above the EMF frequencies that are specifically directed into the targeted persons body.

I've compiled a list of tools for the EMF sensitive.
The list applies for targeting.
Take what you feel is appropriate for you.

Cayenne pepper (takes out the EMF electrical charge) Use in an emergency.

Peppermint oil ( a few drops in an oil such as olive oil. Take orally. (Aromatologist can advise) This boosts and protects the auric field. Use once everyday. Take care if taking certain medications.

Rosemary oil does the same. (Not sure why these oils work well with EMF's and/or targeting. Maybe they push your personal vibration above the EMF's. Does feel like that). Last for approx. 4 hrs.

Buy a Spooky set (It is based on Rife technology). Set to Spooky Spectrum sweep. The frequencies from the sweep bounce out EMF's from the body (and that goes for direct targeting hits from aircraft etc)
The set is named after a statement from Einstein.

Use a magnet to ground a few times a day.

If you are into crystals....carry Herkeimer diamond and place a ruby on the back of your neck...….frequently. Herkeimer is very high vibrational and as such can clear & lift personal vibrations.

Listen to music frequencies.....such as Solfeggio. Good for pineal gland clearing.

Take regular Epsom salt baths. This removes frequencies and nano particles.

Find a place that sells Borax. Follow the instructions carefully. I think it is a teaspoon in a litre of water and take 5mls twice a day, Please check that. I used to have hexagonal shapes on the side of my feet (nanos). With the combination of borax and Epsom baths the shapes have flattened & faded.

To get personal frequencies back up and high, take neem powder with turmeric powder.

Mushroom powders build up the immune system. Lions mane mushroom powder really gets the human energy field back up and blasting.

Your body will need aminos. EMf's take them out.

Christina Von Dreien's clearing protocol that is found in this thread is proving to be very effective amongst those that I know.....and I mean really effective. Highly recommend it. The protocol clears, attachments and implants etc.

Nature has a very strong vibe now. Very supportive.

I'm posting, with the intention of helping those who are EMF sensitive and those who are targeted.

If anyone else can add to this list, I'd appreciate it:flower:

There are solutions.:heart:
We can do this

I would add Sodium Bicarbonate to the list. EMF's acidify the body..as do negative thoughts, stress and certain foods. Sodium Bicarbonate (not baking soda) can be added to baths and also taken in moderation on an empty stomach an hour before food. It is recommended to test your PH when taking more than a tsp a day. Some people have used it in their fight against cancer. Dr Sircus has a lot to say about its healing properties. Magnesium is also depleted with EMF's and taking that is also recommended by some as it protects the calcium from deluging the cells when EMFs trigger the calcium gated cells. As EMF's prevent the body detoxing thoroughly a few drops of Iodine both alkalises and helps the detox processes.

I have not tried some of the things you mentioned Zirconian and am pondering on the vibration of the essential oils you use as I am sure that high vibrational essential oils will trigger an energy that clears EMF's from the body.

I will be experimenting.

Trisher :flower:

[Trisher]

The information in this video is gold dust. It may have been posted elsewhere but is well suited to this thread and is highly recommended viewing through to the end. Portals to the Absolute and methods to get there through different portals that are unique to your Being.

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"Portals to the Absolute: Part I: The first part of this You Tube explores Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj as a Teaching Master. Nisargadatta Maharaj in the beginning and early phases pointed students to the I Am, Beingness, Consciousness, Awareness, or Nothingness as a Portal to the Absolute.

As a cautionary note oftentimes Portals and states can become “stuck” points that both “spiritual practitioners” and students, as well as "teachers" can unknowingly and habitually nest in.

Zen Saying: “You never want to nest in any state”

For this reason the last section of this YouTube begins to deconstruct Portals which are mistakenly confused as being the Absolute.

All Portals, and “spiritual experiences” are appearances or labels which appear to appear in the Dream-Illusion. Eventually these Portals including emptiness, consciousness, the I Am awareness, energy or shakti, beingness, presence, light, and vibration… … dissolve… Prior to or without these Portals is the Absolute…The Nameless Absolute…THAT

This You Tube is offered at the feet of my Guru and Mentor Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, whose meetings with him were truly the ultimate “luck-out”.

May Maharaj’s grace and clarity blanket your heart and mind."

Trisher :heart:

[gnostic9]

The information in this video is gold dust. It may have been posted elsewhere but is well suited to this thread and is highly recommended viewing through to the end. Portals to the Absolute and methods to get there through different portals that are unique to your Being.

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"Portals to the Absolute: Part I: The first part of this You Tube explores Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj as a Teaching Master. Nisargadatta Maharaj in the beginning and early phases pointed students to the I Am, Beingness, Consciousness, Awareness, or Nothingness as a Portal to the Absolute.

As a cautionary note oftentimes Portals and states can become “stuck” points that both “spiritual practitioners” and students, as well as "teachers" can unknowingly and habitually nest in.

Zen Saying: “You never want to nest in any state”

For this reason the last section of this YouTube begins to deconstruct Portals which are mistakenly confused as being the Absolute.

All Portals, and “spiritual experiences” are appearances or labels which appear to appear in the Dream-Illusion. Eventually these Portals including emptiness, consciousness, the I Am awareness, energy or shakti, beingness, presence, light, and vibration… … dissolve… Prior to or without these Portals is the Absolute…The Nameless Absolute…THAT

This You Tube is offered at the feet of my Guru and Mentor Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, whose meetings with him were truly the ultimate “luck-out”.

May Maharaj’s grace and clarity blanket your heart and mind."

Trisher :heart:


Thank you so much Trisher! "Portals to the Absolute" ties in so beautifully with a book i'm reading now "Beyond Mind-Beyond Death, excerpts from the TAT forum".


Love peace and joy to all!

[Trisher]

This is the second part to the video "Portals to the Absolute"

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“The End of the Game: Deconstructing the Portals to the Absolute” is the final YouTube of Stephen Wolinsky, (Narayan). The "End of the Game" dismantles not only the portal of light, sound, and vibration, but also emptiness, void, stillness-silence witnessing, non-duality, vibration, energy or shakti, being(ness), the I Am, A Deity, (Goddesses, Gods and/or Guru), consciousness and awareness.

THERE IS NO IT

"The End of the Game" demonstrates that portals are pleasant experiences which are appearances. However they are merely temporary stations, labels, appearances that appear to appear,. Portals represent layers or veils which, if identified with, or believed in become traps.

THERE IS NO IT

The Absolute (Prior to the word Absolute), can also be referred to as
"The Great Without", does not have, knows nothing about, and is without the portals or states or labels of light, sound, emptiness, energy, vibration, A Deity, (Goddesses, Gods, and/or Guru), , consciousness or awareness, being(ness), the I Am and stillness. These portals or labels are appearances which appear to appear on Maya which is defined as:
"THAT WHICH ISN'T"

THERE IS NO IT

The last part of the YouTube points to rarely mentioned appearances that appear to appear and which are temporary states of mind that ultimately evaporate. In "The End of the Game” the appearance of the Witness, Aware-er, Know-er, Perceive-er, Attention-er, Consciousness-er etc. are shown to also be temporary states that come and go.

THERE IS NO IT
.
Moreover, as long as the silent witness, aware-er, know-er, perceive-er, attention-er, the consciousness-er etc. are present the game continues and the Absolute, (Prior to the word Absolute), will remain a distant conceptual goal.

THERE IS NO IT

The Absolute, a.k.a. "The Great Without", is without the appearance of Portals as well as the appearance of the Witness, the know-er, the aware-er, the observer, the Perceive-er, the attention-er, the consciousness-er etc..

THERE IS NO IT

As Nisargadatta Maharaj would say, the Absolute is “Prior to(Without) Consciousness.”

Finally as you read or listen to the book or You Tube please keep tucked away somewhere:

“All that is heard, (or that is about to be read seen or heard) is non-existent.” Shankara

One Love
One Mind
One Heart
Your Mirage brother,
Stephen-Narayan

Trisher :flower:

[Zirconian]

Thanks Trisher :heart:

I've often wanted to draw this thread together to some conclusion, a completion and Trisher finding these videos are the perfect conclusion.

I've linked posts from The Black Hole Thread to give a history as to how we got to Sri Nisagardatta Maharaj and The Absolute.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112671-Nobel-Prize-For-Physics-2020-Black-Holes&p=1386817&viewfull=1#post1386817

[TrumanCash]

Because of my experiences in this and other lives, I have been able to expose the techno-matrix of a conspiratorial group of Mantids, Anunnaki, Grays & Repitilians that have been keeping mankind in spiritual darkness and chaos for thousands of years. I have documented my research and experience in my two books (links below). This rabbit hole goes very deep.

Truman L Cash

[Zirconian]

Hi TruemanCash,

Yes, indeed the rabbit hole goes very deep. I can personally attest to this and I was contemplating describing some deeper parts of the rabbit hole in this thread but for various reasons.....I changed my mind and just briefly touched on certain subjects with more attention on EMF's but the rabbit hole also goes very deep with EMF technology. In fact any technology. (Tomkat alluded to this in his technology thread). I have just skimmed the surface on this particular subject.

I decided I wanted this thread mainly to focus on postive solutions and pathways out of the matrix/game/illusioin. I feel we need to find these within ourselves at this time.

Whatever our experience is, it seems to have consequences and the game appears to have become very serious.

I wanted the thread to show there is a way out of the game which is by going within to explore our inner landscape which synchronistically leads to tools and pathways to leave the game. At the moment we seem to be facing some possible events that could seriously impact our choices to go within and experience solutions. We can overcome this but going within requires time and dedication, however I strongly suspect it is the only solution.

All the best.

[Trisher]

Following Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj he states that to go beyond all that is and find the Absolute you have to deconstruct all that you are not and go beyond the illusion. That is the entire world, your human, any beliefs and any perspectives no matter what they are. Spiritual, non spiritual no matter. True reality is not experienced, it is what we are before we are born and after we die. To get to this state whilst embodied is to get out of the game and dissolve all into the Absolute. The game could be labeled "the matrix".

Trisher :flower:

[Zirconian]

......Indeed it could. :flower::heart:

All the very best.:flower:

[amor]

Cutting to the CORE, the subject is the MATRIX; and I am of the OBSERVATION that the present rise of technologies are about to plunge us all into another MATRIX, like the Russian Dolls, one fitted inside another. Have you noticed GOGGLES appearing on the faces of actors on line, indicating that the wearer will experience greater reality by taking part in what is being viewed??? IMPORTANT. Along with all the other frequency traps planned out there, 5G etc., they are planning to insert take-over nano via Vaccines(?), to either kill us and/or throw us into ANOTHER MATRIX ILLUSION. Alternately, or possibly simultaneously, they are planning to render us ROBOTS through making us ingest nano instead of food. The Book of Revelations tells us that those people will chew their tongues with pain. They will be unable to DIE and they will lose their SOULS which are our connection to the Godhead eternally. This, I believe, is what the COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS will bring in en mass. As for the Annunaki, according to Kerry Cassidy, they Kick Dogs, those people have no empathy or love for dogs or humans. Do not cooperate with them or trust them. They are SLAVERS occupying the MOON.

[Zirconian]

Hi Amor,

Indeed it does appear that way. Russian dolls seems apt.

In this thread there are helpful tried and tested tips for dealing with that which may hinder the steps we may take to truth beyond the matrix/game/illusion. It does appear that technology (EMF's etc) do intefere with meditation, kundalini, heart space etc. and therefore our ability to step to truth and these tips may therefore assist someone on their journey beyond the matrix.

If we choose truth, we do seem to have to take each step and play in the game/matrix, the experience on each one of the stepping stones synchronistically seems to reveal more and more solutions for what now appears to be the possibility of the end of our free will choices. (If indeed we do have the amount of free will we think we do).

Indeed, the stepping stones certainly lead to more stability, heart resonance to beauty and nature and gratitide for all.These are gifts for living in what at times can appear to be a very disturbed dream/matrix/illusion.

Can humanity as a whole experience a better holograph in the dream/matrix/ illusion?

I really do not know. It will take a worldwide commitment to truth and I don't see it happening at the moment but maybe now people are being pushed in many ways, they might be more ready to take a step?

Can nefarious pushing lead more people to take a step to truth?

Certainly, I'm aware of more people now experiencing being at portals that are substsations to the absolute (truth). I now know that these portals/inner black holes are called substations to the absolute from the above Sri Nisagadartta Maharaj vidoes that Trisher has recently posted.

The videos are valuable, in that they explain what some people are experiencing, so there is an explanation, as the substations appear to be the final stepping stone to truth.

I know people who are now experiencing their chakras as black holes with subsequent human energy field changes, in that their auric fields are disappearing and this is happening in the young people too. Are they now at the substation of the absolute? They are not gurus, so it seems that more people are accessing states that can take you out of the illusion/matrix.

A big positive.

My guess is and it is derived from viewing Trisher's Sri videos, is that if you experience absolute, you are in a state that is peaceful and detached from the game/illusion/matrix and would not be concerned about 5G, vaccinations, technology, etc. It would all play out in front of you like some strange dream and if you were to die from some nefarious activitiy, you would be unconcerned as you would be abiding in ultimate, absolute truth.

This maybe small comfort. I have not experienced ultimate truth but the stepping stones I have stepped on have given me the tools to withstand the effects of 5G, EMF's, nefarious activities etc. I'm grateful I took the steps.

Who knows, the next steps may negate the effects of a nefarious vaccine?

I do know that now I've seen the portal videos, I'll be taking a further step(s) (through the practices in the video) to the absolute and that means, I will be undoing what I know, apparently.

There is a humour moving out of the matrix.

In conclusion, I would take the steps to truth, the experiences from each step really do provide some solutions to keep the mind stable and the heart resonate with nature and that which is beautiful in the holograph, whilst playing the game out of the matrix :heart:

[Zirconian]

Some stepping stone solutions for nanos, EMF's etc.

Tried and tested. They do work. Posted to share. Choose what is resonant, if you feel it is appropriate.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111615-The-Matrix.-Are-we-in-one-If-so-how-do-we-get-out&p=1378101&viewfull=1#post1378101

[Denise/Dizi]

I have heard it said and thought it thru many times that all is as it should be. Its a hard thing in a sense to understand. Most of us are fixers, fixers of the world around us. yet this seems impossible. we have soul plans and life paths. we agreed to them prior to our incarnation here. there is much evidence to this, perhaps even more than that we are in a matrix.

if we are in a matrix , it is what it is and perhaps we are supposed to be in it. should it even be possible to discover, and break free of it, then what? what would we be in then? sort of like fish in a tank, and one fish discovers they are in water, and so decide to escape it. then what? nothing is permanent here, so it will all pass anyway. so my intuition tells me, to live my life out mind full off all these thoughts as I move along.

You made me laugh because I once conversed with a friend about fish and abductions... The one fish being "Caught" and released, going back to tell their friends of their experience...

The fish, was placed into a bucket, then left there for a few, and eventually dumped back in the water, his description is as follows..

"Really, I was just eating lunch when I felt a pinch in my lip, and the next thing I knew, I was floating in the water with some force... I was then pulled into some other reality, where there was no water.... as I struggled to breathe, something handled me, and I found myself in a room, a round white room, with a great light coming from the ceiling... (The sun).. I gasped and gasped trying to catch my breath, thrashing around, when this thing, with many appendages, reached down from the ceiling to touch me... Suddenly the room began to turn, and I was on the wall!... And I remember falling, and the next thing I knew, I was back here swimming for the life of me to get away.. and I swear this really happened!"

The scientists suggest our reality has very specific computer code written into the fabric of reality itself, self correcting computer code... I believe they knew this when they began to label things, and have for a very long time, hence they call illness "viruses" and such. I believe our DNA is very specific code, that can be altered, and manipulated at will... And that the pharmaceutical companies have known this for a very long time. Rather than putting poisons in our bodies to kill viruses, and such they could be rewriting codes and introducing those things into our bodies to save us, help us live longer, etc...

When it comes to escaping this simulation, I fear the best we will get is another one.. Who wrote it, and who controls it then becomes the great question of interest, and how can we reach out to them for interactions and advice? Imagine what you could experience if someone outside of our simulation, with the ability to manipulate it, began engaging you? Many times I believe that is what contact experiences are.. two simulations merging, or intrusion into ours.. Move your code to another "game", temporarily, and exit when you come to harms way..

I could talk about such things for hours with someone who loves to ponder such things.. It fascinates me. Having been allowed to "See" another reality simultaneously, while walking in this one, surely will lift your eyebrows to the possibilities... It changes the way that you see life, and makes you realize that the petty nonsense we face daily is nothing in comparison to the truth... Hopefully some day we get some truth..

[Ernie Nemeth]

I find that it is more productive to hold on tight to this reality and learn to have a single focused attention, with no bleed throughs. The reason for this is then when you are attacked you are in control of the situation because of the single minded focus. Ethereal beings cannot assert their persuasive techniques when you are asserting your own. Learning to control this reality with full intention blocks interference and allows entry for these beings only through lapses in focus.

To dial in a reality, as espoused by Icke and others, in my experience, does not help because then the focus is not sharp and a door opens. This door is the door to all realities but when we came here we chose this one and learned to keep our attention on it. If the door is opened the point of attention is blunted, allowing bleed throughs and interference because we have no context for these other realities, nor are we equipped to support them or protect ourselves within them.

It is like suddenly transporting one's self into space but not having a space suit...you do not have the resources to make a suit in time before disaster strikes.

If one must explore these realms, imo, one should first develop the ability to summon the light body, the merkaba. In that vehicle it is possible, perhaps, to explore safely.

Naivete will protect you only so far, as the fool is often granted unsolicited protection - like a proverbial babe in the woods.

[sandyinatlanta]

Thank you Zirconian for you questions. In my spiritual practices there is a saying about breaking free from the illusion we live in. It is "you cannot play your way off this game board. The only way to free yourself is to lift" When we can lift and look at the world around us with a wide-angle view we can see with clarity.

[Mashika]

Thank you Zirconian for you questions. In my spiritual practices there is a saying about breaking free from the illusion we live in. It is "you cannot play your way off this game board. The only way to free yourself is to lift" When we can lift and look at the world around us with a wide-angle view we can see with clarity.

Question:

Do you believe that life outside this "Matrix" is fair? More or less fair than the one inside? And if so, have you thought about how if life outside if very fair and there's no evil and harm, how come the Matrix came to exist? Sourced by that same external reality the outer beings live on?

Because the Matrix exists in an environment along with several other external entities, so, by that observation, we know whoever created the Matrix exists at the same time, in that same reality and the same place, and at the same level as the ones who want to make us free. Yet they can't for some reason free us, and allowed us to become trapped here

"You must free yourself of this fake body and world, so you get yourself put together with your outer higher self, it is your choice and fight" is a basic, very wrong and misunderstood answer. IF the outer self is spiritually higher than our human forms, how did it get trapped into the Matrix in the first place? Was there another being higher than our outer spiritual selfs that did that? And how come then Source allowed it?

If we are here by choice, then the Matrix is not "trapping us" at all, it's our own experiment, and if we are here by force, then there's something else out there that we could not defeat in our higher selfs, meaning if we manage to get out, it's still there, and we can't defeat it, it's illogical in a sense, but completely logical in another one

Have you thought about that and why?

Other than this, because i don't want to say more, by choice, i'm going to just skip again. But i just want to say one last thing, this world exists for a reason, if we are here by choice, then complain and want to get out (or run away from it in all possible ways but the ones that makes us feel good while other people suffer tremendous pain) then "it was the wrong choice" and locking yourself into a room and throwing the keys away through the bottom of the door, doesn't look like a very smart approach to things

IF we are in the matrix, some people have started to like it so much that they created a world around themselves where they cannot escape the illusion, by choice. And that's a terrible thing to live through, but what do i know

I do understand this thread is not at all about figuring these things out, so apologies for getting into this approach. I just needed to at least leave it here in case someone finds it may open a road or two into how perception and the human aspect affects the deep understanding of the crazyness of the matrix. It is up to anyone to choose their path in the end

:thumbsup:

[Trisher]

The Absolute is before all things and is the substance of all. We cannot get out of anything or leave the matrix because we were never a person in the world in the first place.
Sri Nisargaddatta said "The world and all that appears in it is a film. Do not engage in the film". He also said "There is no world"
To see this for ourselves we have to deconstruct all we perceive and experience ourselves to be.

It is a cosmic joke and reminds me of a a sheet of instructions handed out to a small class of children. In the first two lines it clearly stated that all the instructions should be read before doing anything. The instructions included shouting out to the class that you were the best and that you could follow instructions. Twizzling around and jumping into the air. Drawing houses. The class was in full action apart from one who just sat quietly.
At the end of 20 or so instructions were the instructions to only do the first instruction. Write your name on the paper.

Trisher :flower:

[Mashika]

The Absolute is before all things and is the substance of all. We cannot get out of anything or leave the matrix because we were never a person in the world in the first place.
Sri Nisargaddatta said "The world and all that appears in it is a film. Do not engage in the film". He also said "There is no world"
To see this for ourselves we have to deconstruct all we perceive and experience ourselves to be.

It is a cosmic joke and reminds me of a a sheet of instructions handed out to a small class of children. In the first two lines it clearly stated that all the instructions should be read before doing anything. The instructions included shouting out to the class that you were the best and that you could follow instructions. Twizzling around and jumping into the air. Drawing houses. The class was in full action apart from one who just sat quietly.
At the end of 20 or so instructions were the instructions to only do the first instruction. Write your name on the paper.

Trisher :flower:

Hai, wakarimac(s)hita

Have you ever played the game of the chicken? There's only one rule to it:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=45007&d=1604832374

Owwww :/ Such is the nature of humanity....

ETA to Mods: i posted a word in Japanese, it got censured because the system thinks is an insult in English :)

ETA number 2:

Sri Nisargadatta:

"Is there a world outside your knowledge? Can you go beyond what you know? You may postulate a world beyond the mind, but it will remain a concept, unproved and unprovable. Your experience is your proof, and it is valid for you only. Who else can have your experience, when the other person is only as real as he appears in your experience?"

"Truly, all is in me and by me. There is nothing else. The very idea of "else" is a disaster and a calamity."

The original concepts of his words have been completely mangled and reformed to fit the views of the western world, the original message got lost

Perception is the name of the game, self entitlement about what experiences you like and which ones you dislike, and choosing the easy ones to experience (and considering all the other experiences you don't like as negative), are not part of a natural path of life

If you are not aware that your perception forms the world around you (or your view of it) then you have wasted your time following a completely broken path. The world exists on it's own, but 'your' world exists based on your perception, if you only chose to experience and see the nice things you like, there's another completely forgotten world out there you completely missed, so now you are only half developed spiritually, anything not fit for your developed views, will break you easily from then on



There is only imagination. It has absorbed you so completely that you just cannot grasp how far from reality you have wandered. No doubt imagination is richly creative. Universe upon universe are built on it. Yet they are all in space and time, past and future, which just don't exist.

When he wrote this, his view of the world was not in sync with the reality of our universe, he was not aware there can be multiple realities/universes coexisting on the same place, at the same time.

It was a product of imagination, unlike right now, when we can see that is most likely not such thing. If he had known at that time, that there can be multiple 'real' universes all coexisting at the same place and time, would he had said "No doubt imagination is richly creative. Universe upon universe are built on it"



The Absolute is before all things and is the substance of all. We cannot get out of anything or leave the matrix because we were never a person in the world in the first place.

Don't you see the conflict of these statements?

"The Absolute is before all things"
"we were never a person in the world in the first place."

How come?

[Mashika]

Over the past 10 years, i have always asked this question to everyone who i deemed capable of understanding, or in need of "questioning the question"

So far, no one has been capable of answering it, i even got insulted, got the "you're a kid, what could you know" and the "i was already working very hard 40 years ago, when your mom wasn't even born yet" attitudes. It's always easy to dismiss people in those ways, but it's more fun to try and actually spend some time thinking about the question, rather than a "smart" answer, because there's nothing smart about it at all, yet people keep trying to find ways to make themselves look smart in their words

Answers based on quotes based on someone else's knowledge, which are not even understood, are meaningless. I rather go sleep a week and avoid reading a stream of quote after quote of things someone else said, on another time and from a perspective that even the quoter doesn't even understand. I rather, really, hear what YOU have to say about it, and not the words of someone we never talked to and we just repeat over and over because he had knowledge we don't. Were people around him, before he wrote those words, respecting and quoting him for every single thing he said as a kid?

So anyway, once again, after doing it time and again, here's the simple dumb question

"There's a flower growing in the middle of a road.. Why?"

In 10 years, no one, ever, has been able to understand the simplicity of this. I even tried other words, like "when you sit, why do you sit in the place you sit?" I mean it's so obvious, yet...

It's so simple Zen, it's so simple to answer, it's not complicated, no philosophical book or article to be quoted, there's nothing much than a couple simple words to it

Yet i don't think, once again, i can get that simple answer

Also, the simple answer derives into a very complicated aspect of life/death/time/space/reality and much more, but that's just beyond the entire conversation

Even the matrix, if it exists, is sitting somewhere, in the middle of some place. To give you a bit of clarity about the entire thing

[Trisher]

There is no way to give anyone an understanding of the Absolute. Each person has to deconstruct all of what they think they are and experience. Briefly put. Any questions are from mind. Anything being experienced is through the person experiencing from mind. That includes experiencing source/void/stillness peace/hatred/love. The perspective of the person is illusion sitting in an illusory world. Therefore anything they can think or experience is not it. Before the world is the Absolute. That is when the personal identity and the world disappear and all just is. Sri also told people to ignore the words he spoke and go within to find what they were not. That includes observing and not following thinking.

Following on from that there is no purpose, there is no person, there is no world. All is a construct. Answers come from within. Depending on others for answers that satisfy the mind is pointless in the pursuit of the truth. Their answers will be from their perspective and their perspective is from their mind. The mind sits in ego and the ego likely will resist deconstruction. Each has to do the inner work for himself and that is certainly not in satisfying the mind and its questions. Its first getting to the point of actually and sincerely wanting to find the inner truth.

As its a film running this may not be what has been programmed for every person. Thus the advice to watch the film and not get involved in it.

As said before its a cosmic joke.

Trisher :flower:

[Harmony]

"The Absolute is before all things"
"we were never a person in the first place"
These words you quoted Mashika remind me of following scene in The Matrix movie.



45009


https://screenrant.com/matrix-movie-no-spoon-phrase-meaning-explained/


In the moments proceeding Neo meeting with The Oracle (https://screenrant.com/matrix-oracle-best-quotes-ranked/) (Gloria Foster) in The Matrix, he finds himself in a waiting room amidst other people, mostly children, seeking to find out if they are ‘The One’. He encounters a young boy entirely monk-like in appearance. His head is shaven and he’s draped in a robe much akin to a saffron, the traditional garb of Buhhdist monks. The boy is holding a spoon and making it bend purely by his intent. Neo pauses, perplexed. The boy then says “Do not try and bend the spoon, that’s impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth… there is no spoon. Then you’ll see that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.” Neo then attempts to bend the spoon, with momentary success.

[EFO]

Regarding the matrix,I will add the following idea:

We all know that we are "living" in a 3 axis dimension x,y,z
https://www.101computing.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/xyz-axis.png
which form a "cube"
https://d2mvzyuse3lwjc.cloudfront.net/images/WikiWeb/Graphing/3D_Scatter_with_XYZ_error.png?v=5772

A 4D axis system is creating a tesseract...an "evolved" cube
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Tesseract.gif

I presume that the 4th axis is consciousness and what left for us is to evolve a little bit and than move into a sort of "morphing" reality,but we'll still be in an upgraded matrix according to our evolution having upgraded polarized "problems".

No matter the "universe" (Universe,Upperverse,Underverse,Dualverse,Multiverse or whatever "verse") we are living in,as long as we will not get rid of "polarity",we will not get out of any kind of matrix.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Yes. Because we are here, in physical bodies, with physical objects all around us, it is easy to think that the world exists without us. And that we find ourselves here, drives home the point that this is reality, as we experience it.

But, reduce the world to its most fundamental and all things become one thing - energy. And energy might be understood to be the fundamental building block of matter, yet energy is not understood at all. Energy pushes reality. It separates out tiny inconsistencies that then condenses. Densities form, and space to hold it appears.

What is energy anyway? It is everywhere and in everything. There is no place in this reality where there is no energy. Although it has varying intensity, it is uniform and universal.


Energy is an idea. An idea can come only from an intelligence. With that one idea all things manifest. It is an idea so comprehensive, so inclusive, so magnificent, that it included the idea of every living thing, including you.

Reality is an idea, that we have made real. The tangible aspect of reality is malleable, subject only to the will of the observer.

All matter is an idea, a product of a mind. We share that mindscape with the Creator. There are no physical objects, just one great mind in which we swim.

That is the miracle. The mystery is the world's favorite question...why? No idea myself.

And that 'why' drives the world. The more we know or think we know the more the mystery deepens. It is not getting clearer, it is getting more obscured. Because, even though we know more, the fundamentals still escape us. We talk of electricity, of disease, of life, of time, of history, of anything without understanding them. We assign labels to the things we discover and list their properties but that does not bring us any closer to the answers we seek. The labels are just a means to convey a sense of mastery when in fact there is only confusion.

As our labels of things grows, our understandings actually suffer attrition. But this fact is hidden in our technological prowess, that makes it appear as though we have mastered much in the material world. Yet for all our toys, we are still ignorant beasts, barely keeping from dragging our knuckles on the ground.

The greatest idea we can hold in our minds is love. Why? Because it is the most inclusive idea in the so-called universe. With it, distinctions fade, and similarities rise to the fore. Love is what we have in common with our Creator, Who created it all with Its Love. And love is what we are.

So what is love then? Could love be the mind of the Creator? Could the love we have and the love we share be the thing that supports our existence? Is love the mind of God?

And if there is this matrix we suspect there is, could it be that it is the love we withhold, the love we reserve, the love that comes with conditions...could it be these that are the bars of a prison of our own making?

Love with all your heart the life you were given. And love all life for the same reason. And watch the bars of your prison dissolve right before your eyes!

the matrix is supported by willful ignorance and lack of love

[Zirconian]

Great to see some new posters to this thread.:flower:

The conversation at the beginning of the page, evolved from a discussion on the Black Hole Thread.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112671-Nobel-Prize-For-Physics-2020-Black-Holes&p=1385186&viewfull=1#post1385186

Leading to this man.......

Nassim Harramein


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nfi1eIsTXs

The outer reflects the inner.

This led to this.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8GpAyD93ZA[/url]

(Starts at 6:00)


Which led to this.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK88rB_Yv5A

and then this........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DmQkTvj0Y[/url]


So, at the start of this page on the thread, we weren't discussing outerspace but the innerspace.

Why did we end up discussing black holes as an inner experience rather than an observed outer phenomenon?

Well.......people are experiencing black holes as an inner phenomenon.. Their human energy field is disappearing into their chakras that are now acting as black holes. This is happening to few who are young aswell as older.

Sri Nisagardatta Maharaj, as far as I can tell, has given the only explanation of this experience and he states, that before experiencing the absolute there is a stage where your conciousness sits at a portal (black hole) or substation to the absolute. The truth.

Are those who are experiencing their chakras as black holes at this substation within?

In the absolute, according to Sri, the illusion/matrix/game has no more hold over you. You can let go of all that isn't truth, which appears to be all conscious reality, that is dissolving our perceptions (perceptions being a key word) of being in all universes and multi dimensions.

Now I have not got to the absolute.......I'm on the stepping stones to truth, having an experience but this resonates with me and the posts are up here to discuss.

Interesting that Nassim Harramein's work is moving science into the spiritual.

I wonder if you move into absolute that your human energy field becomes nothing as you become no-thing.........appearing in some=thing?

Mashika, I've not got the answers as to the why it is the way it is, just my experiences from stepping on stones to truth that seemingly, synchronistically lead me forward to the next stage, which now seems to be deconstructing all I know and believe to be reality. Funny!

It's all a game and a full on one at that!

It seems for most, who are seekers, we traverse the pathway to truth through inner work (meditation etc) which is then reflected in our outer experiencies and synchronicites, possibly moving us onto the next stepping stones, to a substation portal then the absolute.

Thanks for all your posts.:heart:

[Zirconian]

Hi Ernie,

(This post might also answer a question for Mashika and it relates to Ernie's and EFO's post)

I've heard it stated, possibly in the Course in Miracles that there was a seperation from the absolute, in that seperation, conciousness was created. This act of seperation became duality conciousness within a created holographic matrix.
Though now we seem to have replications of the matrix within the matrix, possibly created by dark forces representing a part of the duality in the matrix.

It can certainly take you into a head spin which is why I find it best to acknowledge these possiblities but not to dissect them, keeping the mind detached and the heart open for the next revealing, as a seeker on the path of truth.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Much of my current thinking on this topic is admittedly influenced by The Course In Miracles. I had too many synchronicities during that ten year period to dismiss them all. In fact, to date, I have yet to find another theory even close to the comprehensive overview of the ACIM.

Yet it was filled with regular humans, and their phobias and fears and secret ambitions (mine as well, I am now able to admit), so the experience ended up being sort of unpleasant. There was too much personal intrigue that I got wound up in the middle of with no equitable solution but to leave. Before I did I was claimed to be the next Jesus Christ, was almost accused of molesting a child (whom I never even met!), and our group disintegrated and fell apart - much like a microcosm experience of the fabled 'fall'. Our leader left for greener pastures, and is doing very well now, I hear, in Holland. But I learned a lot, some of which I am still to this day processing.

So far, I have not heard of a theory that accounts for all the phenomena I have encountered in my life, nor the experiences and knowledge I have accumulated, more so than ACIM. It is a tough course, almost impossible to follow experientially without introducing personally biased interpretations not in line with the tenets of the course. Modern life seems to interfere with the course. And the more you try to integrate the more you find yourself disintegrating. Confusion is a constant companion with only the course theory to help unravel the conflicting experiences - and the open communication network of the Holy Spirit. But it is the hardest thing in this world to act morally when the world is so immoral.

So I hold on to the bits I can live with but have rejected the direct help of HS, as it seems to not include who I (think) am or what I (think I) need. I have a block that I have learned I will not be removing in this life. I have given up my lifelong goal of continual improvement and these last fifteen years just try and hold on to the little I have. I am loosing ground.

So ya, I have a bias. But I am not particularly attached to it. I have just not found anything better to replace it with.

To me, reality is played out in the mind of God, which we are all a part of and there is no intrinsic material world. We've made it all up so as not to have to deal with the thing we are so afraid of - our true nature. That scares us more than we can even admit, most of us. And so we live a lie and rage against the flawed being that sent us here and made this our reality.

[Zirconian]

Ernie,

I too followed ACIM, I got to about 3/4 through and I also read the Kenneth Wapnick book, A Vast illusion.
I stopped following the course when I saw the behaviours of most people who were studying it.
Noone entered into the spirit of forgiveness, quite the opposite.
I also saw people who were practicing going backwards, regressing on their spiritual path.
I saw enough for me to stop.
I'm still not sure why it all happened the way it did. The bringing up of hidden ego perhaps?
I took what I found valuable.......forgiveness and detachment and practiced with those core principles and it did work, in that it took me to another valuable stepping stone.....

[Ernie Nemeth]

That's when I should have quit too. But I am the most stubborn person in the world, I think. I stuck around for 5 3/4 times around! Around around I went. I know the book by heart. And if you really listen you might notice my writing often finds its way to the same tone and pace - iambic pentameter. It has a poetic spiritual feel that is my natural poetry style as well.

[Zirconian]

Ah yes! I remember the iambic pentameter and have been on the merry go round!

The ACIM did help me detach and become more of an observer of what I see, overall. (We all have our moments!)

A key step perhaps into dissolving the illusion?

[Zirconian]

Short, concise summary of non=duality and portals to the absolute.
Good explanations for those who have questions on this thread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkIKXgiKvCM

[Zirconian]

I've been searching for explanations to some points raised in the last few pages of this thread, as I personally, can't answer them.

This video has some great explanations about perception, conciousness, awareness and the absolute.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgmjJ7eu5sA

[AutumnW]

Zirconian,

When you find out how to get out, let me know. Maybe death releases us? Or maybe we just end up in another matrix.

[Zirconian]

AutumnW,

Do you not want to find out for yourself? :flower:

The videos on the Absolute, just posted have some great explanations on perception of reality, conciousness, awareness and the absolute.

I find them very interesting.
I'm being undone......apparently.:)

The absolute is out of the matrix.....any matrix........according to Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. :flower:

[Mashika]

Hi Ernie,

(This post might also answer a question for Mashika and it relates to Ernie's and EFO's post)

I've heard it stated, possibly in the Course in Miracles that there was a seperation from the absolute, in that seperation, conciousness was created. This act of seperation became duality conciousness within a created holographic matrix.
Though now we seem to have replications of the matrix within the matrix, possibly created by dark forces representing a part of the duality in the matrix.

It can certainly take you into a head spin which is why I find it best to acknowledge these possiblities but not to dissect them, keeping the mind detached and the heart open for the next revealing, as a seeker on the path of truth.

Hi Zirconian,

Sorry for the late reply

I addresses that when i said that this other force, if Source is the originator of everything, has to exist within Source, any replication within Source (which encompasses everything) therefore derives from Source itself, so there's no dark/light forces at all, we are just experiencing the Source in all its forms

In this case, rejecting the "dark" because we fear it, just means we reject part of Source because we don't understand it and fear it. Yet we are all part of it in the same way

We are just scared of that little corner

[Mashika]

Yes. Because we are here, in physical bodies, with physical objects all around us, it is easy to think that the world exists without us. And that we find ourselves here, drives home the point that this is reality, as we experience it.

But, reduce the world to its most fundamental and all things become one thing - energy. And energy might be understood to be the fundamental building block of matter, yet energy is not understood at all. Energy pushes reality. It separates out tiny inconsistencies that then condenses. Densities form, and space to hold it appears.

What is energy anyway? It is everywhere and in everything. There is no place in this reality where there is no energy. Although it has varying intensity, it is uniform and universal.


Energy is an idea. An idea can come only from an intelligence. With that one idea all things manifest. It is an idea so comprehensive, so inclusive, so magnificent, that it included the idea of every living thing, including you.

Reality is an idea, that we have made real. The tangible aspect of reality is malleable, subject only to the will of the observer.

All matter is an idea, a product of a mind. We share that mindscape with the Creator. There are no physical objects, just one great mind in which we swim.

That is the miracle. The mystery is the world's favorite question...why? No idea myself.

And that 'why' drives the world. The more we know or think we know the more the mystery deepens. It is not getting clearer, it is getting more obscured. Because, even though we know more, the fundamentals still escape us. We talk of electricity, of disease, of life, of time, of history, of anything without understanding them. We assign labels to the things we discover and list their properties but that does not bring us any closer to the answers we seek. The labels are just a means to convey a sense of mastery when in fact there is only confusion.

As our labels of things grows, our understandings actually suffer attrition. But this fact is hidden in our technological prowess, that makes it appear as though we have mastered much in the material world. Yet for all our toys, we are still ignorant beasts, barely keeping from dragging our knuckles on the ground.

The greatest idea we can hold in our minds is love. Why? Because it is the most inclusive idea in the so-called universe. With it, distinctions fade, and similarities rise to the fore. Love is what we have in common with our Creator, Who created it all with Its Love. And love is what we are.

So what is love then? Could love be the mind of the Creator? Could the love we have and the love we share be the thing that supports our existence? Is love the mind of God?

And if there is this matrix we suspect there is, could it be that it is the love we withhold, the love we reserve, the love that comes with conditions...could it be these that are the bars of a prison of our own making?

Love with all your heart the life you were given. And love all life for the same reason. And watch the bars of your prison dissolve right before your eyes!

the matrix is supported by willful ignorance and lack of love




Yes. Because we are here, in physical bodies, with physical objects all around us, it is easy to think that the world exists without us. And that we find ourselves here, drives home the point that this is reality, as we experience it.


Note: In the context of this thread (which i still consider was not the right title for what it was meant to become)

We are "not here in physical bodies" and since we are in the Matrix, all of this experience and reality is imaginary, we "think" we are real, physical objects moving around, but that's just introduced into our brains through the Matrix

This world could not exist without us, that's the premise i think. We are here for a reason, otherwise the world would not exist

However, this never meant that this reality was meant to help us or bring any kind of benefit to anyone but whoever created the Matrix

[Mashika]

Mashika, I've not got the answers as to the why it is the way it is, just my experiences from stepping on stones to truth that seemingly, synchronistically lead me forward to the next stage, which now seems to be deconstructing all I know and believe to be reality. Funny!

It's all a game and a full on one at that!



Hi Zirconian,

I can explain a bit more

Remember when you were a kid and things just "were", no matter what the thing was?

Let's say for example that question about the flower no one can reply to, ever

Why is it growing on the middle of that road?

And i got plenty of ridiculous philosophical explanations over the years, ever since started questioning this

But the clear, plain and simple answer, that i promise and i'm sure will make you all laugh is this:

"Because it's not growing anywhere else"

Now let's look into that as the way of Zen :) Inner thoughts

Previously, i had posted about sweeping the floors as a way of meditation, most people did not get it. However, that's one of the principles of the "four dignities". Which form the basis of Zen and eastern culture

For example:

Sitting on the floor: Zen
Walking around the block: Zen
Lying on the bed: Zen
Standing somewhere: Zen

Sitting while wishing to run: Not zen
Walking while wanting to sit: Not zen
Lying on the bed while watching Tv: Not zen
Standing somewhere while thinking of being somewhere else: Not zen

Paint a wall:
1. Paint it and focus on it: Zen
2. Paint it but think of what you want to have for dinner: Not zen

Wash your car:
1. Wash it while thinking about work: Not zen
2. Wash it and do it right, love your experience at the moment and feel happy about how clean it is: Zen

Clean your kitchen while focusing on how you want it to look and feel: Zen
Clean your kitchen while thinking about how fast you must finish to go out: Not zen

"Mindfullness"

So, sitting, walking, laying, standing

It's in you all, but "stillness" has a very different meaning that got lost on western society, but i'm not sure i can explain easily that one at this time

Why do we need to look at understand reality?

Did you look at the Chicken Game? Going to post it here again for future reference:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=45007&d=1604832374

Did you look at the Chicken? Bet you did :) Why would you not? It's just right there, in front of you.. "So it's this world"

[Mashika]

All over this thread, I've been using the keisaku in a virtual form lol, and i got to say this, most people did not like it at all. But! If i had been older and in a orange rob and bald and "misterious" i could have hit you with my stick and you would all obey! Because i"m the Zen Master!

Self esteem is good, but one hell of a beast. Also self entitlement goes on the same road, but as one hell of a hurt beast

I'm at a point of amazement at this time, but i'm glad i got to see this. Even if i did not deserve it

But let's think about something for a bit... Why, in the western world, everything eastern with philosophy or Zen has to be "mystical" or "misterious" in several ways? Were this came from?

About the Matrix, this follows that same approach, it's "out there" it's "beyond"

As said before "i too, like to hit my head against the wall, because once i stop, it feels sooooo gooood"


And that's how we ended up in this thread :waving:

[EFO]

All over this thread, I've been using the keisaku in a virtual form lol, and i got to say this, most people did not like it at all. But! If i had been older and in a orange rob and bald and "misterious" i could have hit you with my stick and you would all obey! Because i"m the Zen Master!

Self esteem is good, but one hell of a beast. Also self entitlement goes on the same road, but as one hell of a hurt beast

I'm at a point of amazement at this time, but i'm glad i got to see this. Even if i did not deserve it

But let's think about something for a bit... Why, in the western world, everything eastern with philosophy or Zen has to be "mystical" or "misterious" in several ways? Were this came from?

About the Matrix, this follows that same approach, it's "out there" it's "beyond"

As said before "i too, like to hit my head against the wall, because once i stop, it feels sooooo gooood"


And that's how we ended up in this thread :waving:

If I told you that all world philosophies and religions are only guiding lines and not instructions manuals of "how to",would you believe me?

We are not meant here to escape the matrix,but to change it and to change it using these guiding lines and understand that we have to change EVERYTHING for our own perpetual future highest good and from there to live in harmony with EVERYTHING.

On the other hand an egoistic and hierarchial approach of these writings leads to conflicts,instead of using them as a whole.

What a Christian,Mayan,Buddhist,Muslim,Hebrew,Celtic,Norse,Mongol or any other religious or spiritual practitioner would understand and put in practice at least one of the 45 Belagine Laws? (https://www.9pedia.com/the-45-ancient-secret-laws-of-zalmoxis/)

[Trisher]

I've been searching for explanations to some points raised in the last few pages of this thread, as I personally, can't answer them.

This video has some great explanations about perception, conciousness, awareness and the absolute.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgmjJ7eu5sA

A good video Zirconian as there are often many questions from the personal state. Any such questions or theories from the personal are nothing to do with dissolving into the Absolute because the personal is the first thing that has to go on all levels. Another good "undoing ourselves" video is this video below as any perception from any state is not "it".

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Trisher :flower:

[Trisher]

I also found this one good at helping the undoing /dissolving process.

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Trisher :flower:

[Mashika]

All over this thread, I've been using the keisaku in a virtual form lol, and i got to say this, most people did not like it at all. But! If i had been older and in a orange rob and bald and "misterious" i could have hit you with my stick and you would all obey! Because i"m the Zen Master!

Self esteem is good, but one hell of a beast. Also self entitlement goes on the same road, but as one hell of a hurt beast

I'm at a point of amazement at this time, but i'm glad i got to see this. Even if i did not deserve it

But let's think about something for a bit... Why, in the western world, everything eastern with philosophy or Zen has to be "mystical" or "misterious" in several ways? Were this came from?

About the Matrix, this follows that same approach, it's "out there" it's "beyond"

As said before "i too, like to hit my head against the wall, because once i stop, it feels sooooo gooood"


And that's how we ended up in this thread :waving:

If I told you that all world philosophies and religions are only guiding lines and not instructions manuals of "how to",would you believe me?

We are not meant here to escape the matrix,but to change it and to change it using these guiding lines and understand that we have to change EVERYTHING for our own perpetual future highest good and from there to live in harmony with EVERYTHING.

On the other hand an egoistic and hierarchial approach of these writings leads to conflicts,instead of using them as a whole.

What a Christian,Mayan,Buddhist,Muslim,Hebrew,Celtic,Norse,Mongol or any other religious or spiritual practitioner would understand and put in practice at least one of the 45 Belagine Laws? (https://www.9pedia.com/the-45-ancient-secret-laws-of-zalmoxis/)



If I told you that all world philosophies and religions are only guiding lines and not instructions manuals of "how to",would you believe me?

If you were to told me that, then i would assume you did not read ANY single SENTENCE i wrote in the past months on this thread, including the one about the chicken

And i stopped at that

What were you talking about?

Should i use my stick on your back? It does seem i need to..

Really you did not read me at all? And you replied? At all?

This is a wasteland

[Mashika]

Removed because it is out of topic

[Mashika]

Removed because it is out of topic

[Mashika]

Removed because it is out of topic

[Zirconian]

Mashika,

I can only reply briefly, at this time.
Viewing your last posts ....I can only advise you ignore this thread, if it is causing you to respond with such emotion.
It really is not worth it.

In the grand scheme of things, t's only a thread and people can respond how they wish.....as long as it is polite and courteous.

I'm actually concerned about your recent posts, Mashika. I hope you are ok.
I would appreciate the mods to review this situation.
Thank you.

[Mashika]

Dear Avalon members, please disregard this post. It was not written by me.

Please also see my new http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112926-Apologies thread, in which I explain what happened at my end. My password has now been changed by the moderators, and I sincerely apologize to everyone.

Masha

[Zirconian]

I'm on my lunch break at work, Mashika.

[Mashika]

Dear Avalon members, please disregard this post. It was not written by me.

Please also see my new http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112926-Apologies thread, in which I explain what happened at my end. My password has now been changed by the moderators, and I sincerely apologize to everyone.

Masha

[Mashika]

Dear Avalon members, please disregard this post. It was not written by me.

Please also see my new http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112926-Apologies thread, in which I explain what happened at my end. My password has now been changed by the moderators, and I sincerely apologize to everyone.

Masha

[EFO]

My dear Mashika,

Referring to your post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111615-The-Matrix.-Are-we-in-one-If-so-how-do-we-get-out&p=1389906&viewfull=1#post1389906) and I quoting you

Should i use my stick on your back? It does seem i need to..
bringing violence as an argument into any discussion is not a solution and in general violence is not a viable solution.

I take this from your behalf as an immature and childish mistake and I hope for you to learn something from this.

[Mashika]

My dear Mashika,

Referring to your post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111615-The-Matrix.-Are-we-in-one-If-so-how-do-we-get-out&p=1389906&viewfull=1#post1389906) and I quoting you

Should i use my stick on your back? It does seem i need to..
bringing violence as an argument into any discussion is not a solution and in general violence is not a viable solution.

I take this from your behalf as an immature and childish mistake and I hope for you to learn something from this.


It was a reference to the stick Zen masters use :)

It doesn’t mean a real physical stick, it is meant to awake people and push them on the right direction

It’s not a childish mistake, I’m sad that you did not understood

ETA: My last post yesterday was the one where i said:



Should i use my stick on your back?

And it was a joke about how the old Zen masters used to do that when the students fell asleep while meditating, it was not meant as an insult

After that i went to sleep because i'm not doing very well these days, but forgot to logout and then this happened, i'm really truly sorry, i don't feel well about this at all and can't fix it more than apologizing

[Mashika]

Hi Zirconian, EFO, Trisher and everyone on this thread

All the posts made yesterday were made by my sister, she took advantage i was not feeling well and used my accounts here and other places to insult people and burn me.

I'm truly sorry about this, she was helping me correcting english but then i was away for the night and forgot to logout.

I truly want to apologize if someone got insulted in any way, none of what i wanted to post got posted in the way i asked, she just turned it all into insults and making fun of people

I understand if you don't ever want to talk to me again, i went through the posts on this and other threads and she was insulting people everywhere, i don't like to throw direct insults like that, or for them to be thrown at me so i perfectly understand you are offended by that

My apologies, i'll make sure this never happens again

-

Masha

[Ernie Nemeth]

So when this name posts it can be from two very different people?

That is problematic in so many ways.

You ask her to post for you? Is this normal? Do others here do that too?

[Mashika]

So when this name posts it can be from two very different people?

That is problematic in so many ways.

You ask her to post for you? Is this normal? Do others here do that too?

It was never from other person, i have created a thread asking for apologies about it.

My sister has better English, she helps me sometimes to correct mistakes before i post. Yesterday i went to sleep and forgot to logout, then she used my computer to make fun of people and insult them in bad ways, i did not know until a few minutes ago :/

I'm truly sorry for it, this never happened before and i'll make sure it will never happens again

Perfect example on why i ask her for help with English sometimes


None of what i wanted to post got posted in the way i asked


What i really meant to say was that i ask her to translate and correct some of my posts, not that she would write for me or post directly. I cannot even make sense of that sentence at this point, it's not correct and that's why i'm feeling this terrible thing right now. I think i should just stop posting because it doesn't make any sense to do this anymore

[Ernie Nemeth]

Sh!t happens, Mashika. It's alright. I was teasing a bit. I'm sorry.

[Mashika]

Sh!t happens, Mashika. It's alright. I was teasing a bit. I'm sorry.

Thank you Ernie, the feeling of betrayal i'm going through right now it's unbearable. We are supposed to trust at least one person in life, right? It does seem the one i did trust with everything has let me down. And it has destroyed more than i can possibly deal with right now

I'm probably over acting and over sharing right now, but it's just so much like that, it hurt me badly :/

[Ernie Nemeth]

Family, what ya gonna do, gotta love 'em.
That's why I like my friends...I don't.