America's Frontline Doctors Fighting Back

[Gemma13]

This is breaking news and has been posted on the global update thread but I think it deserves its own thread.  It will be interesting to see how much traction they get.

Americas Frontline Doctors are fighting back re "Hydrochloroquine plus" treatments that are saving their patients lives, and their own, and they're calling out Fauci.

@5:25 Powerful passionate speech from Dr Stella Emmanuel.

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Still watching but looks like script is available on this link:

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/americas-frontline-doctors-scotus-press-conference-transcript


Here is the link for AMERICAS FRONT LINE DOCTORS which has links to Papers they reference.

https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com

This Dr explains why Dr's are scared to speak up.

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[Delight]

Cross posting the summit today. it continues tomorrow. These are some hard hitting talks.




Press conference from Doctors without fear.
America's Frontline Doctors
(https://www.brighteon.com/3aac0736-f2e8-4319-b444-64c66029ba0f)

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[Constance]

I've downloaded and saved to bitchute just in case they got pulled...:heart:


Part 1
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part 2

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[Gemma13]

POTUS has tweeted:

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[indigopete]

Video below got deleted by Vimeo after an hour or so. Use this link instead:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PqqvcxdCGJo9/


https://vimeo.com/442163100

[spade]

Trump tried to tweet this video 3 times on twitter it and all 3 times they were removed!

We should pay attention to tweets that are removed... because these are the MOST important. Almost everything else is peripheral.

Post Update ! Vimeo now affected too! Gosh, why is the left in control of most tech? Thank God for Project Avalon!

[Luke Holiday]

Trump tried to tweet this video 3 times on twitter it and all 3 times they were removed!

We should pay attention to tweets that are removed... because these are the MOST important. Almost everything else is peripheral.

... agreed and I would add relevant articles in scientific journals to the list...

When/Where this occurs is where the truth begins... For those with eyes to see or ears to hear.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111572-PubMed-science-journal-states-5G-could-produce-virus-like-structures-such-as-coronavirus

Blessings Luke

[Dorjezigzag]

Wow that Lady doctor from Nigeria blew me away, such passion and authenticity.

Twitter removing this tweet is just going to give this video more attention although not perhaps from the people it needs to.

There are few hard facts with Covid19 it is a new virus so for twitter to label this as misinformation is highly suspicious. These doctors are merely sharing their intensive experience backed up by their qualified opinion.

It is important they are able to express their views, big pharma is just showing its tentacles by trying to stifle this

[PurpleLama]

https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/americas-frontline-doctors-capitol-hill-press-conference_sq8Hr6JATDuOeiZ.html?s=09

Here is another link to the video. The vids are getting taken down all over the place!

[roguemoon]

This needs to be shared and seen by everyone on planet earth, its blocked on you tube, we must all fight back

[Gwin Ru]

Donald Trump says Dr. Fauci misled the public on hydroxychloroquine and shares a video of a doctor saying the drug can prevent the virus in Twitter spree (http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/07/donald-trump-says-dr-fauci-misled.html)

03:48 (http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/07/donald-trump-says-dr-fauci-misled.html) - Current Events (http://www.stationgossip.com/search/label/Current%20Events?&max-results=7)

President Donald Trump went into a Twitter frenzy on Monday night, retweeting posts that claim Dr. Anthony Fauci misled the country on hydroxychloroquine and videos of a doctor who claimed the drug is a 'cure' for the virus.

In his Twitter spree Trump retweeted a post that claimed Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's leading expert on infectious diseases, is leading the country in the wrong direction by refusing to endorse the use of the anti-malaria drug in combating COVID-19.

Trump was a big promoter of hydroxychloroquine and repeatedly pushed it as a therapeutic treatment for the coronavirus, which has infected over 4.2million in the US and killed more than 148,000, even though the Federal Drug Administration warns the drug has harmful side effects.

'Dr. Fauci has misled the American public on many issues, but in particular, on dismissing #hydroxychloroquine and calling Remdesivir the new gold standard,' the retweet said.


Full article: http://www.stationgossip.com/2020/07/donald-trump-says-dr-fauci-misled.html

[indigopete]

This is the Bitchute one the Zerohedge linked. It's got 100,000 already nearly & seems fairly stable. The Vimeo link is gone. PTB playing whackamole with "wrongthink" atm.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/PqqvcxdCGJo9/

MSM retaliation in progress with ad-hominem mortar fire.
They've got shields up - no comments allowed ;)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-8569087/From-alien-DNA-cures-sex-dreams-witches-Ideas-Dr-Stella-Immanuel-promoted-Trump.html

[pyrangello]

I can tell you all kinds of people who have known people that have died in this community , heart attacks, broken neck , , had nothing to do with COVID and were listed as a covid death. I just sent this video to several nurses and a doc who is in charge of a large medical facility. Thank you to the docs who came forward, this is exactly what we needed, THE TRUTH and not a stinking vaccine.

[indigopete]

The bitchute one's gaining around 3000 views every 10 or 15 minutes.

It's also on bannedvideo: https://banned.video/watch?id=5f1fc7a468370e02f29f34cf

Important to have multiple backups.

(On a side note, I think it's hilarious how they've all got crisp white coats. U.S. audiences need to see that otherwise they won't believe them. You ain't no doc unless you got a white coat cos need to look like someone on ER rofl). Clearly they just nipped out of the Capitol building for 10 minutes while treating patients in there for Covid-19.

[Gemma13]

MODS: Another thread has started and is active. Please merge or delete this one now as silly to have two threads on exact same topic. Thanks :)






From Bill: Thanks, yes, and merged.
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[anandacate]

Here's an article about it. The America’s Frontline Doctors website listed in the article is already gone.

(Note: I did not know how to add the image of Dr. Stella Immanuel from Houston, Texas.)

“Nobody Needs to Die” – Frontline Doctors Storm D.C. Claiming “Thousands of Doctors” are Being Silenced on Facts and Treatments for COVID (https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/nobody-needs-to-die-frontline-doctors-storm-d-c-claiming-thousands-of-doctors-are-being-silenced-on-facts-and-treatments-for-covid/)

by Brian Shilhavy
Editor, Health Impact News

America’s Frontline Doctors stormed into Washington D.C. today to host their first annual White Coat Summit on Capitol Hill to combat the misinformation and propaganda on COVID being fed to the American people through the corporate media, while successful treatments against COVID are being censored by Big Tech.

They held a brief press conference first that was sparsely attended, and where impassioned doctors, all of whom deal directly with COVID patients, claimed that the American people were being deceived, and that “nobody needs to die” from COVID, because all them are successfully treating COVID patients with effective cures that are being censored for political reasons.

The purpose of this summit from their website (https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/):

American life has fallen casualty to a massive disinformation campaign. We can speculate on how this has happened, and why it has continued, but the purpose of the inaugural White Coat Summit is to empower Americans to stop living in fear.

If Americans continue to let so-called experts and media personalities make their decisions, the great American experiment of a Constitutional Republic with Representative Democracy, will cease.



One of the speakers at the press conference today was Dr. Stella Immanuel from Houston, Texas. She stated that she studied medicine in Nigeria where she used Hydroxychloroquine for malaria patients, and is therefore very experienced with this medication, and that she has now treated over 350 COVID patients in Texas with Hydroxychloroquine, and none of them have died.
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I’m here because I have personally treated over 350 patients with COVID. Patients that have diabetes, patients that have high blood pressure, patients that have asthma, all people.

My oldest patient is 92. The result has been the same. I put them on Hydroxychloroquine, I put them on zinc, I put them on Zithromax, and they are all well.

For the past few months I have taken care of over 350 patients with not one lost one. Not a diabetic, not somebody with high blood pressure, not somebody with asthma, not an old person.

We’ve not lost one patient!

And, on top of that, I’ve put myself, my staff, and many doctors that I know, on Hydroxychloroquine, for prevention.

None of us have gotten sick.

I came here to Washington D.C. to tell America, nobody needs to die!

I’m upset! Why am I upset? Because I see people who cannot breathe. I see parents walk in, I see diabetics sitting in my office, knowing (thinking) that this is a death sentence! And they can’t breathe!

And I help them, and I tell them it’s going to be OK. You’re going to live. And we treat them, and they live.

None have died!

When are you going to wake up, America, and realize that you are fearing the wrong thing! You do not need to fear COVID, you need to fear our political medical leaders who are complicit with MURDER!!

And Hydroxychloroquine is not the only successful treatment. There are non-drug treatments as well that have seen success and been censored, such as IV Vitamin C therapy and Ozone therapy. See:
Censored Medical Doctor Publishes Results: 100% SARS-CoV-2 Cure Rate with No Drugs or Vaccines

Watch the entire press conference, which is being heavily censored. Brietbart News was one of the few organizations that showed up and streamed this to their Facebook Page. Let us know if it disappears, and we will provide it on an alternative platform.

(UPDATE: As predicted, Facebook apparently removed this video, so here it is on another platform.)

https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/americas-frontline-doctors-capitol-hill-press-conference_sq8Hr6JATDuOeiZ.html?s=09

[O Donna]

In my eye this is another example in which there is a global war over information. Suppression of information from the populous is an elitist mechanism. If valid information doesn't get out to the people to discern for themselves then, in essence, that information does not exist.

[AriG]

Thank you so much for this! I’ve already texted the link to everyone on my contacts list. Everyone should do the same.

[indigopete]

Those folks also make a lot of other very valid commentaries about the whole Covid-19 sh*show. It's basically an appeal for a sane approach as opposed to an insane one.

Which approach do you prefer ?

[Luke Holiday]

.and the resistance has just received a mega high voltage kickstart.. by delivering this gut punch/kick to the groin to the establishment: :dancing:


After the Nigerian physician's impassioned speech regarding a cure: I think it would be apropos to repost this regarding the drug plaquenil, chemtrails, Potus, and 5 G.


1.President Trump proposed using the drug : Hydroxychloroquine AKA PLAQUENIL to tx Covid 19. Plaquenil is pften used to tx malaria and it's proposed mechanism of action is:

The most accepted model is based on hydrochloroquinine and involves the inhibition of hemozoin biocrystallization, which facilitates the aggregation of cytotoxic heme (source Wikipedia)

In other words: Plaquenal would allow the body to get rid of damaged heme more quickly - thus preventing non oxygen binding Hemoglobin from being produced. Layman's terms: The drug would aid a patient who is suffering from hypoxia caused by damaged Hemoglobin.

Question: Why would an Upper/lower Respiratory virus be damaging Hemoglobin? -Please read on for the answer

2. We know that heavy metals in the body have the following effects on Hemoglobin and oxygen: Heavy metals bind to oxygen and hemoglobin in blood, lowering blood and tissue oxygen, causing lack of energy. The structure of hemoglobin is easily compromised by heavy metals.

2. It has been firmly established that Chemtrails (and who knows what toxic soup of chemicals are in the Wuhan/Italian air) are made up of the heavy metals, Aluminum, Barium and strontium. Therefore, if 5 G destabilizes the cell into a detox reaction - this would push Heavy metals into the blood, further hindering hemogloban's ability to bind oxygen - leading to hypoxia (Lack of useable O2 in the body).

3. Suppose you combine the 60 Hz bandwidth effect on Hemoglobin/O2 with increased blood levels of Heavy Metals - now you have a very delicious recipe for hypoxia.



When you hit oxygen molecules with 60 GHz millimeter wave emissions it affects the orbital properties of the electrons of the oxygen molecules. The 60 GHz range is known as the Oxygen Absorption Band. At 60GHz, 98% of electromagnetic energy is absorbed by O2. When 5G reaches the frequency band of 60 GHz, the ability for a person’s blood hemoglobin to bind with oxygen is hindered and this might explain, in part, why people in Wuhan just fall down dead in the streets, which is not a normal thing we see with viral infections.
( source Dr Sircus.com and many other articles on 5 G...)

What would be the effects of 5G transmissions on the body? Could these waves distort oxygen and/or its uptake by hemoglobin[which carries this vital element to cells of the body?

Could the impairment create a straight oxygen deprivation in the body—without structurally affecting the lungs themselves—creating the new condition described by the doctors I’ve cited above?

—Add to all this—the fact that 60GHz is an unlicensed frequency band, which means that telecomm companies can use it without paying very large fees they would pay for licensed bands.


4. Based on this Dot Connecting: Was POTUS providing a hint as to the cause/ treatement of Covid 19? It now appears this question may have been answered.

5. I was also surprised to hear this Physician and many others claim they are using Zithromax (azithromycin) is an antibiotic that fights bacteria.

Zithromax is used to treat many different types of infections caused by bacteria, such as respiratory infections, skin infections, ear infections, and sexually transmitted diseases.

It is a very well established fact that Zithromax or any other Antibiotic has no effect on virus's; hence this is blatant example of malpractice as you are needlessly destroying massive quantities of patient probiotics (good bugs) leading to further debilitation of the patient.

NOTE: This drug is made by Pfizer and it may have been an extremely shameless and egregious planned cash grab. ( .. They just over 100 mil for the vaccine from the US government)

6. 5 G rollout Bottom line:


5 G has the potential to be rolled out with little to no effect on the human population if it is done with great care, skill and acumen in not using known frequencies that are detrimental to life.

Conversely, it also has the potential to be rolled out with devastating lethal consequences to human life if known frequencies are used recklessly or with direct intent that are detrimental to life.

It all depends on the leadership controlling the set up, implementation and calibration .

So the question is:

Do you believe your world political, corporate or local leadership will do what is best for all or will they do what is in their own best interest?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111572-PubMed-science-journal-states-5G-could-produce-virus-like-structures-such-as-coronavirus

Blessings Luke

[Gwin Ru]

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Doctor's Are Now Making Themselves the News So To Battle the MSM Fake News and DS 45:40


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https://www.bitchute.com/video/0rIIAs9UCMV6/

First published at 05:31 UTC on July 28th, 2020.

Decisive Liberty News & Documentaries (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/decisiveliberty/)
Decisive Liberty (https://www.bitchute.com/profile/XD5U0aem51ON/)

Mirrored from Breitbart's periscope account - in which the video has 'vanished'...
America's Frontline Doctors Capital Hill Press Conference
America's Frontline Doctors held their first D.C. Summit 27-28 July 2020

The first White Coat Summit had 3 goals.
_ create the opportunity for frontline doctors to talk directly to the American people.
_ educate and inform Congresspersons, who have also been subject to widespread misinformation.
_ build alliances, as it falls to us physicians to heal our nation
All meaning they are keeping BigPharma at a distance (and should). They have seen the one-sided as well as false information that has been nothing but a fake news narrative being delivered by the MSM, WHO, and CDC - all focused and derived to guild fear.

They have also seen doctors that have been working diligently in getting the truth out into the public hands. Several truths are shared in this 45-minute video.

This Capitol Hill Press Conference was held on day one of the two-day Summit.

Their website: https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/

Do note that this video had been posted on Facebook, YouTube and Periscope -- and yanked from all three as well.

Which only begs the questions...

What are the Big Tech / Social Media companies wanting to hide? wanting to control? why?

Anyone that has been woke for even a few months already knows the answers.

A few things to remember about the moralities of C19 - more than 90% of the LEGITIMATE deaths are of people who already had a compromised immune system. Less than 10% of the LEGITIMATE deaths were of anyone that did NOT have a compromised immune system. For the most part, the deaths of those without a compromised immune system have been attributed to delays in getting treatment.

For those interested to see part of that conference, Breibart has it available on their Bitchute channel here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/4ggiwwTnTwo/

LAST NOTE
We keep an ongoing post on the latest updates with COVID-19 here:
https://decisiveliberty.news/latest-updates-to-why-covid-19-is-more-than-a-seditious-biological-attack/

This post has been live since March and, though not conclusive, is very rich in information as well as the history of COVID-19 since 2017...

[Gwin Ru]

The above is very reminiscent of the following prophecy:



... At night, the great removal. The two men who thought themselves masters of the world, brought before the tribunal on the largest square in the world, before men of the earth and pursued by those who have rebelled. Scientists condemned by them to slavery through their power, to put their talents at the service of death, will be the accusers.

Then will be the turn of the persecuted. Terrible will be the conviction and Man will find himself in the embrace between science and faith.

The proceedings of the trial will be the poem of the people, and the lyrics are sweet to the lowly, terrible for the arrogant powers.

The dispatched armies stopped at the boundaries of the square and the men-soldiers turned their weapons around. Weapons are defeated that day. Those of the earth, those of the sky.
... is there a bigger town square on earth than the World Wide Web?

[Delight]

live on youtube now

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[wondering]

After watching Dr Gold, et al, I feel as though a little oxygen has begun to enter a stifling, closed room...I am very grateful to them, I have no doubt they are paying a price for their courage. I was especially happy to hear the clarification of what it means when “cases are increasing”, simply that more testing is being done and testing is faulty at the very least. I wish more people would educate themselves on the numbers that are thrown around instead of tuning in to the overtone of fear and pending disaster. Especially given that our daily lives are directly impacted by the misinterpretation of what “cases” mean. Rant over!😁

[indigopete]

Fauci & co challenged to take a urine test. She thinks they're taking hydroxichloroquine.

https://twitter.com/silverbird458/status/1287926978977378309

[onawah]

When I clicked on that link, I got the message: Website Expired.
They might want to use the new platform ISE.Media See: https://truthinmedia.com/ise-media-live/


Their website: https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/

[Eric J (Viking)]

Must see....

https://www.bitchute.com/video/71W1O4TdJxo0/


https://www.bitchute.com/video/71W1O4TdJxo0/

The group of doctors created quite a furor during a press conference by stating controversial facts about coronavirus and the 'cure' for it
By Anuka Roy

From the steps of the US Supreme Court, a group of doctors calling themselves ‘America’s Frontline Doctors’, held a press conference on July 27. In the almost 45-minute video, physicians from around the country addressed the public about Covid-19 and a “massive disinformation campaign” which according to them, is keeping businesses closed and schools planning to remain closed this coming September. Among other things, the event termed the “first White Coat Summit,” has listed that it will address topics such as 'medical cancel culture,' 'lockdowns,' 'HCQ,' and 'Follow the Money'.

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The video which was published on Breitbart News’ Twitter page has been pulled down by the platform stating, “This tweet is no longer available”. The summit is scheduled to be a two-day event (July 27-28). And as reported earlier, on July 27, Immanuel, in the video from the press conference, can be seen saying, "I personally treated over 350 patients with Covid-19. Patients who have diabetes, high blood pressure, asthma, old people — my oldest patient is 92. I have put them on hydroxychloroquine, zinc and zithromax, and they are all well." She added, "I have not lost one patient. Fake studies and fake pharma companies say it doesn’t work. Nobody needs to die from this virus. It has a cure and it called hydroxychloroquine. You don’t need mask and you don’t need people to be locked down." Immanuel's Twitter bio reads: 'Physician, Author, Speaker, Entrepreneur, Deliverance Minister, God's battle axe and weapon of war. Rehoboth Medical Center, Houston, TX. Fire Power Ministries.'

According to Rev.com, speakers at the press conference included Pediatrician Bob Hamilton, Dr James Todaro, Dr Joe Ladapo and Dr Dan Erickson. Dr Simone Gold was also present. Dr Erickson, owner of Accelerated Urgent Care, in his speech reminded the public that “99.8 percent of people get through this with little to no progressive or significant disease.”

“This is the first time I’ve seen quarantining healthy,” he continued. “I don’t know if you guys think that’s normal. I find that very strange.” While he said it was good that the US prepared for the worse, Erickson said we must be “realistic with the response.” The doctor says most of the patients that were showing up for him had 'very mild illness' and added that he wanted to come out and “give reality to the situation on the ground and sort of help dispel some fear that people have had.”

On their official website, a detailed two-day schedule has been given. When you click on the speakers' tab, the list shows the names of Dr Scott Barbour, Dr Jeffrey Barke, Dr Teryn Clarke, Dr Simone Gold, Dr Robert Hamilton, Dr Kristin Held, Dr Joseph A. Ladapo, Dr Mark McDonald, Dr James Todaro and Dr Richard Urso. The leadership tab lists Simone Gold, MD, JD, Founder, Teryn Clark, MD, Communications Director, Richard Urso, MD, Science Liason, James M. Todaro, MD, Science Liason, Jeff Barke, MD, Schools Liason, Robert Hamilton, MD, Schools Liason, Scott A. Barbour, MD, Business Liason, Kristin S. Held, MD, Physician Liason, Joseph A. Ladapo, MD, PhD Policy Liason, Mark McDonald, MD, Mental Health Liason, Susanna Dokupil, Steve Mitby, Of Counsel seilermitby.com and Fleccas, Social Media Coordinator. Some of the other speakers at the summit include Dr Mobeen Syed, CL Gray, MD, Dr Lionel H Lee, DO, and Dr Geoff Mitchell.

https://meaww.com/americas-frontline-doctors-hydroxychloroquine-cure-covid-19-stella-immanuel-trump-who-are-they

Viking

[onawah]

The website and FB page are no longer, but that doesn't necessarily prove this group is legitimate.
The doctors don't seem convincing to me. Real doctors would talk more about where their practices are and give some background on their training.
The woman who speaks first in part 2 exhibits nervous traits of someone who is lying, as does the first doctor.
Are all these people actually actors, including the hecklers?
I don't dispute What they are saying, but this looks like a psyop to me.
If it will be shown to have been a hoax, then what they have said will again be branded as lies, but all because someone wants to reinforce the MSM narrative and make everyone who disagrees look like "crazy conspiracy theorists"...

[Bill Ryan]

The website and FB page are no longer, but that doesn't necessarily prove this group is legitimate.
The doctors don't seem convincing to me. Real doctors would talk more about where their practices are and give some background on their training.
The woman who speaks first in part 2 exhibits nervous traits of someone who is lying, as does the first doctor.
Are all these people actually actors, including the hecklers?
I don't dispute What they are saying, but this looks like a psyop to me.
If it will be shown to have been a hoax, then what they have said will again be branded as lies, but all because someone wants to reinforce the MSM narrative and make everyone who disagrees look like "crazy conspiracy theorists"...

From https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/28/tech/facebook-youtube-coronavirus/index.html

(extract)

According to the website for America's Frontline Doctors, the group is led by Dr. Simone Gold, a Los Angeles-based emergency medicine specialist who has previously been featured on Fox News for her views that stay-at-home orders are harmful. Gold told the Associated Press in May she wanted to speak out against stay-home orders because there was "no scientific basis that the average American should be concerned" about Covid-19.
And here she is on Fox News: (21 May, 2020)

https://foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown

Doctor who raised alarm about health effects of shutdown says 'rest of the story' must be heard

(article continues here (https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown))

[Bill Ryan]

It's also here:


https://banned.video/watch?id=5f1fc7a468370e02f29f34cf

It's unlikely to disappear from banned.video or Bitchute, but it's now here in the Avalon Library as well. :thumbsup:


http://avalonlibrary.net/America's_Frontline_Doctors_Fighting_Back.mp4

[Michi]

Trump in his current 5:00 PM EDT briefing is being asked about the above and subscribes to the hydroxychloroquine treatment. (at about 7 minute mark in the below video) Furthermore he was talking about KODAK now start producing drugs and thus becoming independent of other drug sources.
He also continues pushing ventilators production and social distancing and wearing masks.
On questioning about Fauci, he sides with him and agrees with what he says.
(Source: whitehouse.gov/live/)

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[norman]

Is this video what Trump linked to in the tweet I heard Twitter removed ?

[Bill Ryan]

Is this video what Trump linked to in the tweet I heard Twitter removed ?Yes. They flat-plain deleted it.

[onawah]

But check this out:
Trump’s New Favorite COVID Doctor Believes in Alien DNA, Demon Sperm, and Hydroxychloroquine
ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE
The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concern
Will Sommer
Updated Jul. 28, 2020
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine
https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1686,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_1044/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1595943485/200728-Dr-tease_vxsyug
"A Houston doctor who praises hydroxychloroquine and says that face masks aren’t necessary to stop transmission of the highly contagious coronavirus has become a star on the right-wing internet, garnering tens of millions of views on Facebook on Monday alone. Donald Trump Jr. declared the video of Stella Immanuel a “must watch,” while Donald Trump himself retweeted the video.

Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams.

Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.

She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens.

Immanuel gave her viral speech on the steps of the Supreme Court at the “White Coat Summit,” a gathering of a handful of doctors who call themselves America’s Frontline Doctors and dispute the medical consensus on the novel coronavirus. The event was organized by the right-wing group Tea Party Patriots, which is backed by wealthy Republican donors.

In her speech, Immanuel alleges that she has successfully treated hundreds of patients with hydroxychloroquine, a controversial treatment Trump has promoted and says he has taken himself. Studies have failed to find proof that the drug has any benefit in treating COVID-19, and the Food and Drug Administration in June revoked its emergency authorization to use it to treat the deadly virus, saying it hadn’t demonstrated any effect on patients’ mortality prospects.

“Nobody needs to get sick,” Immanuel said. “This virus has a cure.”

Immanuel said in her speech that the supposed potency of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment means that protective face masks aren’t necessary, claiming that she and her staff had avoided contracting COVID-19 despite wearing medical masks instead of the more secure N95 masks.

“Hello, you don’t need a mask. There is a cure,” Immanuel said.

Toward the end of Immanuel’s speech, the event’s organizer and other participants can be seen trying to get her away from the microphone. But footage of the speech captured by Breitbart was a hit online, becoming a top video on Facebook and amassing roughly 13 million views—significantly more than “Plandemic,” another coronavirus disinformation video that became a viral hit online in May, when it amassed roughly 8 million Facebook views.

“Hydroxychloroquine” trended on Twitter, as Immanuel’s video was embraced by the Trumps, conservative student group Turning Point USA, and pro-Trump personalities like Diamond & Silk. But both Facebook and Twitter eventually deleted videos of Immanuel’s speech from their sites, citing rules against COVID-19 disinformation. The deletions set off yet another round of complaints by conservatives of bias at the social-media platforms.

Immanuel responded in her own way, declaring that Jesus Christ would destroy Facebook’s servers if her videos weren’t restored to the platform.

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“Hello Facebook put back my profile page and videos up or your computers with start crashing till you do,” she tweeted. “You are not bigger that God. I promise you. If my page is not back up face book will be down in Jesus name.”


Immanuel is a registered physician in Texas, according to a Texas Medical Board database, and operates a medical clinic out of a strip mall next to her church, Firepower Ministries.

Immanuel was born in Cameroon and received her medical degree in Nigeria. In a GoFundMe legal defense fund, which swelled from just $90 to $1,616 hours after her speech, Immanuel claims without offering any proof that members of a Houston networking group for women physicians are scheming to take her medical license away over her support for hydroxychloroquine.

It’s not clear whether anyone is actually trying to take Immanuel’s license. But many of her earlier medical claims are definitely ludicrous.

In sermons posted on YouTube and articles on her website, Immanuel claims that medical issues like endometriosis, cysts, infertility, and impotence are caused by sex with “spirit husbands” and “spirit wives”—a phenomenon Immanuel describes essentially as witches and demons having sex with people in a dreamworld.

“They are responsible for serious gynecological problems,” Immanuel said. “We call them all kinds of names—endometriosis, we call them molar pregnancies, we call them fibroids, we call them cysts, but most of them are evil deposits from the spirit husband,” Immanuel said of the medical issues in a 2013 sermon. “They are responsible for miscarriages, impotence—men that can’t get it up.”


In her sermon, Immanuel offers a sort of demonology of “nephilim,” the biblical characters she claims exist as demonic spirits and lust after dream sex with humans, causing all matter of real health problems and financial ruin. Immanuel claims real-life ailments such as fibroid tumors and cysts stem from the demonic sperm after demon dream sex, an activity she claims affects “many women.”

“They turn into a woman and then they sleep with the man and collect his sperm,” Immanuel said in her sermon. “Then they turn into the man and they sleep with a man and deposit the sperm and reproduce more of themselves.”

According to Immanuel, people can tell if they have taken a demonic spirit husband or spirit wife if they have a sex dream about someone they know or a celebrity, wake up aroused, stop getting along with their real-world spouse, lose money, or generally experience any hardship.

Alternately, they could just be having dream-sex with a human witch instead of a demon, she posits.

“There are those that are called astral sex,” Immanuel said in the sermon. “That means this person is not really a demon being or a nephilim. It’s just a human being that’s a witch, and they astral project and sleep with people.”

Immanuel’s bizarre medical ideas don’t stop with demon sex in dreams. In a 2015 sermon that laid out a supposed Illuminati plan hatched by “a witch” to destroy the world using abortion, gay marriage, and children’s toys, among other things, Immanuel claimed that DNA from space aliens is currently being used in medicine.

“They’re using all kinds of DNA, even alien DNA, to treat people,” Immanuel said.

Immanuel’s website offers a prayer to remove a generational curse originally received from an ancestor but transmitted, in Immanuel’s telling, through placenta. Immanuel claimed in another 2015 sermon posted that scientists had plans to install microchips in people, and develop a “vaccine” to make it impossible to become religious.

“They found the gene in somebody’s mind that makes you religious, so they can vaccinate against it,” Immanuel said.

Immanuel elaborated on her fascination with witchcraft in her 2015 Illuminati sermon, claiming that witches were intent on seizing control of children.

In her 2015 sermon on the Illuminati’s supposed agenda to bring down the United States, Immanuel argues that a wide variety of toys, books, and TV shows, from Pokémon—which she declares “Eastern demons”—to Harry Potter and the Disney Channel shows Wizards of Waverly Place and That’s So Raven were all part of a scheme to introduce children to spirits and witches. Immanuel warned that the Disney Channel show Hannah Montana was a gateway to evil, because its character had an “alter ego.” She has claimed that schools teach children to meditate so they can “meet with demons.”

In the sermon, Immanuel preserved special vitriol for the Magic 8-Ball, a toy that can be shaken up to “reveal” any answer. Immanuel claims the otherwise innocuous Magic 8-Ball was in fact a scheme to get children used to witchcraft.

“The 8-Ball was a psychic,” she said.

Immanuel’s oddball claims about the world extend to politics. She didn’t bring up this allegation publicly in Washington, but she has claimed that the American government is run in part by non-human reptilians.

“There are people that are ruling this nation that are not even human,” Immanuel said in her 2015 Illuminati sermon, before launching into a conversation she had with a “reptilian spirit” she described as “half-human, half-ET.”

Immanuel has also used her pulpit to preach hatred of LGBT people. Shortly before the Supreme Court legalized gay marriage, Immanuel warned her flock that gay marriage meant that “very soon people are going to be seeking to marry children” and accused gay Americans of practicing “homosexual terrorism.” In the same sermon, she praised a father’s decision to not love his transgender son after a gender transition.

“You know the crazy part?” Immanuel said. “The little girl demands he must love her anyway. Really? You will not get it from me, I’d be like ‘Little girl, when you come back to be a little girl again, but you talk—for now, I’m gone.’”

Unusually for a pediatrician, Immanuel has praised corporal punishment for children. The American Academy of Pediatrics opposes corporal punishment, and claims that the “vast majority” of pediatricians do not recommend it.

“Children need to be whipped,” she declared in a 2015 sermon, before adding that she didn’t think children should be “abused.”

It’s also not clear that Immanuel has abided by her claims that face masks aren’t necessary. In her Washington speech, Immanuel claimed that she and her medical staff had avoided any COVID-19 infections while wearing only medical masks. But in two videos shot at her clinic, Immanuel appears to be wearing an N95 mask, which offers more protection.

Immanuel has also alleged that masks of all kinds are superfluous, because she says COVID-19 can be easily cured with hydroxychloroquine. But in a Facebook video advertising her clinic, Immanuel said anyone seeking treatment should wear a face mask before entering the clinic.

“Wear a mask, or a scarf, or anything to cover your face,” Immanuel said in the video.

Immanuel has seized on her newfound celebrity, tweeting a video demanding that CNN hosts and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases chief Anthony Fauci give her jars of their urine so she can test if they’re secretly taking hydroxychloroquine even as they caution against its use.

“I double dog dare y’all give me a urine sample,” Immanuel tweeted in her challenge.


Now Immanuel is angling for the key rite of passage for any budding MAGA-world personality: a visit to the Trump White House. Late Monday night, Immanuel tweeted that she was open to meeting the president.

“Mr President I’m in town and available,” she tweeted. “I will love to meet with you."'

¤=[Post Update]=¤

That's not Dr. Simone in the video, but a Registered Nurse.


The website and FB page are no longer, but that doesn't necessarily prove this group is legitimate.
The doctors don't seem convincing to me. Real doctors would talk more about where their practices are and give some background on their training.
The woman who speaks first in part 2 exhibits nervous traits of someone who is lying, as does the first doctor.
Are all these people actually actors, including the hecklers?
I don't dispute What they are saying, but this looks like a psyop to me.
If it will be shown to have been a hoax, then what they have said will again be branded as lies, but all because someone wants to reinforce the MSM narrative and make everyone who disagrees look like "crazy conspiracy theorists"...

From https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/28/tech/facebook-youtube-coronavirus/index.html

(extract)

According to the website for America's Frontline Doctors, the group is led by Dr. Simone Gold, a Los Angeles-based emergency medicine specialist who has previously been featured on Fox News for her views that stay-at-home orders are harmful. Gold told the Associated Press in May she wanted to speak out against stay-home orders because there was "no scientific basis that the average American should be concerned" about Covid-19.
And here she is on Fox News: (21 May, 2020)

https://foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown

Doctor who raised alarm about health effects of shutdown says 'rest of the story' must be heard

(article continues here (https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown))

[onawah]

This is the site with Dr. Simone, which does look legit. Confusing!!
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown



The website and FB page are no longer, but that doesn't necessarily prove this group is legitimate.
The doctors don't seem convincing to me. Real doctors would talk more about where their practices are and give some background on their training.
The woman who speaks first in part 2 exhibits nervous traits of someone who is lying, as does the first doctor.
Are all these people actually actors, including the hecklers?
I don't dispute What they are saying, but this looks like a psyop to me.
If it will be shown to have been a hoax, then what they have said will again be branded as lies, but all because someone wants to reinforce the MSM narrative and make everyone who disagrees look like "crazy conspiracy theorists"...

From https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/28/tech/facebook-youtube-coronavirus/index.html

(extract)

According to the website for America's Frontline Doctors, the group is led by Dr. Simone Gold, a Los Angeles-based emergency medicine specialist who has previously been featured on Fox News for her views that stay-at-home orders are harmful. Gold told the Associated Press in May she wanted to speak out against stay-home orders because there was "no scientific basis that the average American should be concerned" about Covid-19.
And here she is on Fox News: (21 May, 2020)

https://foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown

Doctor who raised alarm about health effects of shutdown says 'rest of the story' must be heard

(article continues here (https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown))

[The Moss Trooper]

The Daily Beast using standard, off the shelf, attack-the-messanger-not-the-message tactics 101.

Must be worried about what she has to say.

This is going to get interesting............. Very interesting.

[wondering]

IMO, given the climate of truth suppression, I am not surprised that any of these physicians would not give great detail on their locations or medical practices. They have as much to lose, or more, than anyone else.

[Constance]

I recognised one of the Dr's in the first summit presentation as Dr. Erickson from Kern county. He first spoke out on April 22. The presentation was repeatedly censored by FB and also pulled from youtube.

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[Delight]

The Daily Beast using standard, off the shelf, attack-the-messanger-not-the-message tactics 101.

Must be worried about what she has to say.

This is going to get interesting............. Very interesting.

EXACTLY. When you hear the end of the 2nd segment of the SUMMIT (HIGH RECS imo), she is asked to close as she is a minister also. She flat out calls the issues we face a spiritual war. Also she calls those who know the truth and hide out "good Germans"... bound to rile many who have supported by absentia. She may have very open minded views bout many controversies WE cover at PA. I felt a relief that I heard these people's gathering. It is feeling more and more to me that we have the FORCE (we humans/angels/aliens whomever loves life) with us.

[Bill Ryan]

Chris Martenson weighs in at 1:07 in his today's update, just published. He's been advocating HCQ (correctly administered, with zinc), for months now. He's consistently pointed out how so very many of the published studies have literally been designed to fail.

(I have his last 48 updates all downloaded, concerned that his YouTube channel, one of the very best on the subject, could be removed at any time.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_fSz3y022o

[Constance]

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Michael Coudrey interviewed Dr. Simone Gold, the lead organizer for the White Coat Summit in DC that has since been censored by social media companies.

Dr Simone Gold expresses significant concern about governors infringing upon the doctor-patient relationship, & says that politicians should not be restricting doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine.

“We were threatened.... This has never happened before in medicine.”

When I asked Dr Simone Gold about the debate to re-open schools, she says ‘There is no scientific debate, of course children should be allowed to re-attend school.’ She compares this w/ the more-deadly 2007 influenza virus, & indicates these closures were not even mandated then.

As the media relentlessly smeared hydroxychloroquine’s use, they stated that potential QT prolongation was a reason the drug was “dangerous.” Dr. Gold says that this is not true, and it’s a common misconception that QT prolongation is associated with fatal arrhythmia.

When taking into consideration the Politicizing of healthcare and Governors arbitrarily restricting hydroxychloroquine’s use, Dr. Gold proposes a NEW solution: Make hydroxychloroquine an OVER THE COUNTER MEDICINE as they have done in dozens of countries throughout the world.

[Luke Holiday]

But check this out:
Trump’s New Favorite COVID Doctor Believes in Alien DNA, Demon Sperm, and Hydroxychloroquine
ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE
The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concern
Will Sommer
Updated Jul. 28, 2020
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine
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"A Houston doctor who praises hydroxychloroquine and says that face masks aren’t necessary to stop transmission of the highly contagious coronavirus has become a star on the right-wing internet, garnering tens of millions of views on Facebook on Monday alone. Donald Trump Jr. declared the video of Stella Immanuel a “must watch,” while Donald Trump himself retweeted the video.

Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams.

Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.

She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens.

Immanuel gave her viral speech on the steps of the Supreme Court at the “White Coat Summit,” a gathering of a handful of doctors who call themselves America’s Frontline Doctors and dispute the medical consensus on the novel coronavirus. The event was organized by the right-wing group Tea Party Patriots, which is backed by wealthy Republican donors.

In her speech, Immanuel alleges that she has successfully treated hundreds of patients with hydroxychloroquine, a controversial treatment Trump has promoted and says he has taken himself. Studies have failed to find proof that the drug has any benefit in treating COVID-19, and the Food and Drug Administration in June revoked its emergency authorization to use it to treat the deadly virus, saying it hadn’t demonstrated any effect on patients’ mortality prospects.

“Nobody needs to get sick,” Immanuel said. “This virus has a cure.”

Immanuel said in her speech that the supposed potency of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment means that protective face masks aren’t necessary, claiming that she and her staff had avoided contracting COVID-19 despite wearing medical masks instead of the more secure N95 masks.

“Hello, you don’t need a mask. There is a cure,” Immanuel said.

Toward the end of Immanuel’s speech, the event’s organizer and other participants can be seen trying to get her away from the microphone. But footage of the speech captured by Breitbart was a hit online, becoming a top video on Facebook and amassing roughly 13 million views—significantly more than “Plandemic,” another coronavirus disinformation video that became a viral hit online in May, when it amassed roughly 8 million Facebook views.

“Hydroxychloroquine” trended on Twitter, as Immanuel’s video was embraced by the Trumps, conservative student group Turning Point USA, and pro-Trump personalities like Diamond & Silk. But both Facebook and Twitter eventually deleted videos of Immanuel’s speech from their sites, citing rules against COVID-19 disinformation. The deletions set off yet another round of complaints by conservatives of bias at the social-media platforms.

Immanuel responded in her own way, declaring that Jesus Christ would destroy Facebook’s servers if her videos weren’t restored to the platform.

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[/INDENT]And here she is on Fox News: (21 May, 2020)

https://foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown

Doctor who raised alarm about health effects of shutdown says 'rest of the story' must be heard

(article continues here (https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-simone-gold-warning-health-effects-shutdown))[/QUOTE]


... Likely good message from messenger who happens to be ripe for character assassination/discreditation.....


I was invigorated by her heartfelt passionate speech today and believe that she has a deep seated belief in what she articulated.

Personally, I do not like the idea of using Pharmaceutical Patent medicine off label - for symptoms/diagnosis that have not been tested. Obviously this is a non-scientific very slippery slope practice which is ripe for lethal abuse. It should be noted that she was recommending HCQ with Zithromax which is suspicious as it has been firmly established that antibiotics have zero effect on viral related illness. In fact, I would have to label this as blatant malpractice as this powerful AB will obliterate massive numbers of probiotics (good bugs) further debilitating the patient.

https://www.infowars.com/study-antibiotics-use-increases-risk-of-inflammatory-bowel-disease/

With that written, If what she, and many other physicians, are saying is true regarding Plaquenil - and based on 39 peer reviewed scientific studies on file regarding HCQ and Covid, she most certainly is - then why isn't the medical establishment/MSM promoting these studies.

Read on for the answer:



1. Plaquenil's Mechanism of action. It works by removing damaged hemoglobin thus restoring blood O2 saturation. The problem for the establishment lies in explaining how a defined Upper/Lower respiratory virus is causing damaged Hemoglobin. I do not believe they can explain it in a way that suits the agenda - [B]otherwise they would have.

(Please see prior posts regarding the 5 G 60 hz connection).

2. The vaccine agenda

I have also noticed since David Icke was first on London Real and was subsequently banned on social media /Youtube for making the CV 19/5 G connection - anyone who dares to go "there" is immediately rebuked, ostracized and de-platformed. Hell, I have experienced irrational dismissiveness myself on this very forum when going " there"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111572-PubMed-science-journal-states-5G-could-produce-virus-like-structures-such-as-coronavirus

Blessings Luke

[Mike Gorman]

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Michael Coudrey interviewed Dr. Simone Gold, the lead organizer for the White Coat Summit in DC that has since been censored by social media companies.

Dr Simone Gold expresses significant concern about governors infringing upon the doctor-patient relationship, & says that politicians should not be restricting doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine.

“We were threatened.... This has never happened before in medicine.”

When I asked Dr Simone Gold about the debate to re-open schools, she says ‘There is no scientific debate, of course children should be allowed to re-attend school.’ She compares this w/ the more-deadly 2007 influenza virus, & indicates these closures were not even mandated then.

As the media relentlessly smeared hydroxychloroquine’s use, they stated that potential QT prolongation was a reason the drug was “dangerous.” Dr. Gold says that this is not true, and it’s a common misconception that QT prolongation is associated with fatal arrhythmia.

When taking into consideration the Politicizing of healthcare and Governors arbitrarily restricting hydroxychloroquine’s use, Dr. Gold proposes a NEW solution: Make hydroxychloroquine an OVER THE COUNTER MEDICINE as they have done in dozens of countries throughout the world.

All I can say is: Hallelujah! This has cheered me up considerably, amongst all of this blatant terrible deceit and ruthless mendacity/manipulation voices of authority and courageous standing firm!

[Constance]

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Michael Coudrey interviewed Dr. Simone Gold, the lead organizer for the White Coat Summit in DC that has since been censored by social media companies.

Dr Simone Gold expresses significant concern about governors infringing upon the doctor-patient relationship, & says that politicians should not be restricting doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine.

“We were threatened.... This has never happened before in medicine.”

When I asked Dr Simone Gold about the debate to re-open schools, she says ‘There is no scientific debate, of course children should be allowed to re-attend school.’ She compares this w/ the more-deadly 2007 influenza virus, & indicates these closures were not even mandated then.

As the media relentlessly smeared hydroxychloroquine’s use, they stated that potential QT prolongation was a reason the drug was “dangerous.” Dr. Gold says that this is not true, and it’s a common misconception that QT prolongation is associated with fatal arrhythmia.

When taking into consideration the Politicizing of healthcare and Governors arbitrarily restricting hydroxychloroquine’s use, Dr. Gold proposes a NEW solution: Make hydroxychloroquine an OVER THE COUNTER MEDICINE as they have done in dozens of countries throughout the world.

All I can say is: Hallelujah! This has cheered me up considerably, amongst all of this blatant terrible deceit and ruthless mendacity/manipulation voices of authority and courageous standing firm!

I'm very glad to hear that Mike. :flower: :muscle:

[Constance]

Credentials of the doctors in question:

Simone Gold, MD - Emergency Medicine Specialist in Los Angeles, CA and has over 31 years of experience in the medical field. She graduated from Rosalind Franklin University Of Medicine Science/The Chicago Medical School medical school in 1989. She is affiliated with Centinela Hospital Medical Center.

Dr. Bob Hamilton - pediatrician from Santa Monica, California. Medical School UCLA Geffen School of Medicine, Los Angeles, CA. Internship UCLA Geffen School of Medicine, Los Angeles, CA. Residency UCLA Geffen School of Medicine, Los Angeles, CA.

Dr. Stella Emmaneul - primary care doctor in Houston, Tx. Went to medical school in West Africa, Nigeria. Has practiced in Louisiana and now resides in Texas where she has treated more than 350 Covid patients.

Dr. Dan Erickson, DO - Emergency Medicine Specialist in Bakersfield, CA and has over 16 years of experience in the medical field. He graduated from Western Univ Of Health Sciences/College Of Osteopathic Medicine Of The Pacific, Western University Of Health Sciences medical school in 2004. (While both degrees mean your doctor is a licensed physician, their training differs slightly, and each has a unique perspective on care. “An M.D. follows an allopathic medical training path, whereas a D.O. follows osteopathic,”)

Dr. James Todaro, MD - a Ophthalmology Specialist received his medical degree from Columbia University, Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons in NY, and completed his surgical training with four additional years of residency in ophthalmology.

Dr. Joe Ladapo MD, PhD - Physician at UCLA and clinical researcher. Internal Medicine, American Board of Internal Medicine, 2011.
Residency Internal Medicine, Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr-East Campus, 2009-2011.
Internship Internal Medicine, Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr-East Campus, 2008-2009. Degree Harvard Medical School, MD, 2008 Harvard University Grad. School of Arts, Sciences, PhD, 2008.

Source: www.healthnutnews.com (https://www.healthnutnews.com/)

[Hughe]

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-07-27-big-tech-commits-medical-treason-censoring-doctors-video-covid-19-cure.html

Facebook, Google/YouTube, Twitter Censor Viral Video of Doctors’ Capitol Hill Coronavirus Press Conference
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/
Facebook has removed a video posted by Breitbart News earlier today, which was the top-performing Facebook post in the world Monday afternoon, of a press conference in D.C. held by the group America’s Frontline Doctors and organized and sponsored by the Tea Party Patriots. The press conference featured Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) and frontline doctors sharing their views and opinions on coronavirus and the medical response to the pandemic. YouTube (which is owned by Google) and Twitter subsequently removed footage of the press conference as well.

BREAKING: American Doctors Address COVID-19 Misinformation. Hydroxychloroquine Works!!
https://www.brighteon.com/3571f9ae-ec43-4254-8a56-1a931c250888

[Gemma13]

The video at beginning of this article link is Tucker Carlson talking about the Doctors and censorship of their speeches. (10 min)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-rallies-to-demon-sperm-doctors-defense

[Gwin Ru]

...


https://twitter.com/i/status/1288116275084894208

[Gwin Ru]

From Jim Stone:



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[Eric J (Viking)]

Can someone shed light on this, I’m arguing with someone

https://heavy.com/

https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/dr-stella-immanuel/

Viking

[greybeard]

Can someone shed light on this, I’m arguing with someone

https://heavy.com/

https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/dr-stella-immanuel/

Viking

Probably true what the web site says but that does not invalidate her part in the video.
Just because I disagree with some of her opinions does not prevent me from agreeing with what she said in her "testimony" about the current situation.
Chris

[Gwin Ru]

Can someone shed light on this, I’m arguing with someone

https://heavy.com/

https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/dr-stella-immanuel/

Viking
There are many scientists on Avalon who also investigate the other side of life... one doesn't rule out the other.

After all, Avalon is where Science and Spirituality Meet :)


Emanuel Swedenborg (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66264-Swedenborg-s-Quest-For-Insight&p=1316382&viewfull=1#post1316382) was one of the early pioneer in the genre...

[anandacate]

The video in the article below took place July 29, 2020,

Frontline Doctors on Censorship: We’re Coming After You Big Tech – We will Not be Silenced! (https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/frontline-doctors-on-censorship-were-coming-after-you-big-tech-we-will-not-be-silenced/)
by Brian Shilhavy
Editor, Health Impact News

Less than 24 hours after the Frontline Doctors first press conference (https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/nobody-needs-to-die-frontline-doctors-storm-d-c-claiming-thousands-of-doctors-are-being-silenced-on-facts-and-treatments-for-covid/) in Washington D.C. was censored and removed from Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, and after having their own website knocked offline in an attempt to silence them, the doctors were back in front of the steps of the Supreme Court building today (Tuesday, July 28, 2020) for their second press conference, at great risk to their lives, their families, and their jobs, as they remained determined to bring the truth directly to the American people that a cure for COVID exists, and that the public does not need to cower in fear anymore.

While the corporate media continues to blacklist the group of doctors and refuses to cover their press conferences, some hecklers showed up to try and drown out the speakers.

The fact that these doctors are seeing a 100% cure rate for COVID patients is a message Big Pharma, Big Tech, and their political leaders do not want the public to hear. Because it would mean that their drugs and their coming vaccines are worthless and unnecessary.

They do not want healthy Americans. They want sick Americans cowering in fear so they can control us for their own purposes.

Dr. Simone Gold was the first doctor to speak today, and she said:

We are finally coming forward, at great personal and professional costs to ourselves.

We’re tired of seeing patients die in front of us, and we’re even more upset to see the spider web of fear that is enveloping the American public.

When there’s a treatment, there’s a cure. People have been afraid to say that.

But what else do you call it if you give somebody the medication early, and it aborts the disease process?

We’re coming after you Big Tech. We’re coming after you.

We won’t be silenced. The First Amendment is first for a reason. There’s thousands of us.

Dr. Richard Erso was another doctor who spoke today:

We cannot let our patients die without treatment. And that’s the major thing that’s happened.

We’ve been told to hide in our houses, wear a mask, and wait for a vaccine.

That’s not a strategy. We have a strategy.

Hydroxychloroquine works. Withholding it from patients is shameful.

Watch the full press conference as filmed by Breitbart News (let us know if it disappears).

cY0TH-DTYEI

[Maia Gabrial]

Here’s the video Big Tech doesn’t want you to see. They’ve gone out of their way to remove it everywhere because it dismantled the entire narrative that’s pushing vaccine mandates in America:

https://www.brighteon.com/3571f9ae-ec43-4254-8a56-1a931c250888

Lets do our part to get the word out.

[Maia Gabrial]

So, what we need to do is make it viral in creative ways. Easy code words when introducing these thing, would be a great way.... Can you think of any others?

[greybeard]

Doctors gather in DC to expose the coronavirus

Start 4 minutes in.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1HDGuniswk

[Gemma13]

Listed on Dr Stella Emmanuel twitter: Physician, Author, Speaker, Entrepreneur, Deliverance Minister, God's battle axe and weapon of war. Rehoboth Medical Center, Houston, TX. Fire Power Ministries.

In response to those trying to kill the messenger Dr Stella Emmanuel has this to say:

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[Gwin Ru]

...


https://twitter.com/i/status/1285646128659214336

[Tintin]

And now doctors in Germany are presenting a united front (NB: I've downloaded the video too and will endeavour to make it available for all in the next day or so.)

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And the full video published July 9th, here, while it's still up:

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[Bill Ryan]

When taking into consideration the Politicizing of healthcare and Governors arbitrarily restricting hydroxychloroquine’s use, Dr. Gold proposes a NEW solution: Make hydroxychloroquine an OVER THE COUNTER MEDICINE as they have done in dozens of countries throughout the world.Yes. There's really no doubt any more about its safety, or its efficacy. I posted this (below) 8 days ago, on 22 July, and it's at least partially on topic here.

It's literally criminal that the 'west' is suppressing this for 100% non-medical reasons. All the studies cited by western authorities have been designed to fail — and that's an accurate statement.

It's so clear that someone, somewhere does NOT want there to be a cheap, easy cure for this thing. This is one of many in-your-face smoking guns about the entire affair.

~~~

Look at this: it's a chart assembled by one of Chris Martenson's subscribers. Not published in the media. It shows each country's CFR (Case Fatality Rate) against their use of HCQ (hydroxychloroquine).

It's not a formal medical study, but it sure looks like a slam-dunk. The source video is here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8GEqv_X-no&t=1386s).

http://projectavalon.net/HCQ_use_by_country.gif

[mountain_jim]

Studies summary



65 studies (39 peer reviewed)
COVID deaths:

Global HCQ studies. PrEP, PEP, and early treatment studies show high effectiveness, while late treatment shows mixed results.



https://c19study.com/

[mountain_jim]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/yale-epidemiologist-accuses-fauci-misinformation-campaign-against-hydroxychloroquine-fda



Yale Epidemiologist Accuses Fauci Of 'Misinformation Campaign' Against Hydroxychloroquine; FDA Chief Notes Positive Studies

With the science behind the use of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) to treat COVID-19 far from settled, more than a few people have noted the aggressive campaign against the widely-prescribed anti-malaria drug.

The anti-HCQ push has infected Silicon Valley as well - as tech giants have been labeling pro-hydroxychloroquine content as 'misinformation' - most recently banishing a press conference by a group of doctors touting the drug from just about every platform.

To that end, Yale epidemiologist Dr. Harvey Risch has accused Dr. Anthony Fouci of waging a "misinformation campaign" against the drug, according to Just The News.

< more at link >

[Akasha]

I'm adding Dr. Pam Popper (https://www.youtube.com/user/drpamsnewschannel/videos) to the list. I already mentioned her earlier today here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108585-Medical-Mafia&p=1369604&viewfull=1#post1369604) but for those who missed it, check her out. She's another legend.

[onawah]

CENSORSHIP: CDC Takes Over Frontline Doctors’ Website and Replaces Content with Their Own Data

https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/censorship-cdc-takes-over-frontline-doctors-website-and-replaces-content-with-their-own-data

https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/07/CDC-takes-over-Frontline-Doctors-Website.jpg

After the Frontline Doctors website was removed, someone bought the domain name with a .org ending and redirected it to the CDC website on COVID-19. This screenshot shows what appears when you type americasfrontlinedoctors.org (http://americasfrontlinedoctors.org) into your browser.

As we have been reporting this week, a group of doctors who have been on the front lines treating COVID patients, successfully, descended upon Washington D.C. this week to conduct press conferences and a 2-day “White Coat Summit” to share their experiences in treating, and curing, their COVID patients.

They claim that they represent “thousands” of doctors who have been censored.

Their first press conference (https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/nobody-needs-to-die-frontline-doctors-storm-d-c-claiming-thousands-of-doctors-are-being-silenced-on-facts-and-treatments-for-covid/) was sparsely attended by the Washington D.C. media, and the only media company that filmed it and shared it online, Breitbart News, was immediately censored, and the video was quickly deleted from Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter.

But the video of that press conference has been preserved, and has now been viewed by over 20 million people, and our own copy that we have published on our Bitchute Channel (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/HlyeDvlqcVJm/) has been viewed over 125,000 times so far.

http://avalonlibrary.net/America's_Frontline_Doctors_Fighting_Back.mp4 (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/HlyeDvlqcVJm)

http://avalonlibrary.net/America's_Frontline_Doctors_Fighting_Back.mp4

https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/07/Americas-Frontline-Doctors-Website-Censored.jpgThe Frontline Doctor’s Website was removed from the Internet. This was the page advertising their White Coat Summit in Washington D.C. earlier this week. It has been replaced with the CDC Website page on the Coronavirus.

The next day, the Frontline Doctors’ website, which used to be at https://americasfrontlinedoctors.com, was removed by the company that was hosting it.https://platform.twitter.com/embed/index.html?dnt=true&embedId=twitter-widget-0&frame=false&hideCard=false&hideThread=false&id=1288178446569545734&lang=en&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fhealthimpactnews.com%2F2020%2Fcensorship-cdc-takes-over-frontline-doctors-website-and-replaces-content-with-their-own-data%2F&theme=light&widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&width=550px

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Two days ago, the same day as the first press conference, someone bought the domain americasfrontlinedoctors.org (http://americasfrontlinedoctors.org), which now displays the CDC’s official website about COVID-19. (See image at the top of this article.)

Why is this Life-Saving Information being Censored?

https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/07/gottlieb-fda-pfizer-warp-speed-covid-vaccine.jpg (https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/former-fda-director-gottlieb-now-pfizer-board-member-secures-1-95-billion-for-covid-vaccine/)

The reason why the U.S. Government and their “health” agencies, as well as Big Tech, are censoring this information is very simple: cures to diseases are not profitable.

Millions of Americans are out of work, tens of thousands of small businesses have closed, and the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the United States has occurred during the past few months, allocating close to 2 TRILLION dollars to Big Pharma, most of it for COVID vaccines.

And all of this is a CRIMINAL ACT against the American people, if what these Frontline Doctors say is true, which is that there is a simple cure for COVID, and that “nobody has to die” from it.

When you understand what is truly happening in America and around the world today, then it is very easy to understand why Big Pharma, Big Tech, and the U.S.

Government, all of whom will profit from COVID vaccines and interventions, while at the same time putting into place massive surveillance systems to take away our freedoms, would want to silence this group of doctors who simply want to stop their patients from dying due to the COVID fear.

Here is the full Summit from Day 1 which is also hard to find.

https://www.bitchute.com/embed/54MudKI9Brk4 (https://www.bitchute.com/embed/54MudKI9Brk4/)

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Here is the Day 2 Session:
https://www.bitchute.com/embed/7bT3P49dzOiK (https://www.bitchute.com/embed/7bT3P49dzOiKhttp://)

7bT3P49dzOiK Here is the list of Speakers that was originally published on their website that is now gone:

Speakers

Dr. Jeffrey Barke
Schools Liaison

Dr. Jeffrey Barke is a Board Certified primary care physician in private practice for over 25 years. He completed his medical school and family practice residency at the University of California, Irvine. He has served as an Associate Clinical Professor at U.C. Irvine and a board member of the Orange County Medical Association. He is also a reserve deputy and a tactical physician for a local law enforcement SWAT team. Dr. Barke served as an elected school board member for the Los Alamitos Unified School District for 12 years and is the cofounder and current school board Chair of the free public charter school Orange County Classical Academy. Dr. Barke is married to his high school sweetheart and has two adult children.
Dr. Scott Barbour
Business Liaison

Dr. Scott Barbour is the founder and owner of Barbour Orthopaedics & Spine with five clinics and a surgery center in Atlanta, Georgia. Dr. Barbour is fellowship-trained in sports medicine (Palo Alto medical foundation). Dr. Barbour has been a team physician for several professional sports teams including the Oakland Raiders, San Jose Sharks, USA Rugby Teams. He is currently the team physician for the Atlanta franchise of Major League Rugby professional rugby team. Dr. Barbour has appeared on numerous radio and television shows. He has published articles and book chapters on Orthopedic surgery and has been an editor for American Journal of Sports Medicine. He currently co-hosts “The Doctors Lounge” podcast on America’s Web Radio and is a board member of Docs4PatientCare foundation.
Simone Gold, MD, JD, FABEM
Founder

Dr. Simone Gold, MD, JD, FABEM, is a board certified emergency physician. She graduated from Chicago Medical School before attending Stanford University Law School to earn her Juris Doctorate degree. She completed her residency in Emergency Medicine at Stony Brook University Hospital in New York. Dr. Gold worked in Washington D.C. for the Surgeon General, as well as for the Chairman of the Labor & Human Resources Committee. She works as an emergency physician on the front-lines whether or not there is a pandemic. Her clinical work serves all Americans: from urban-inner city, to suburban and the Native American population. Her legal work focuses on policy issues relating to law and medicine.
Dr. Teryn Clarke. MD
Communications Director

Dr. Clarke is a board-certified neurologist. Her focus is on the diagnosis and management of Alzheimer’s Disease and other cognitive disorders. Her mission to educate the community and optimize lifestyle for brain health and general health. The Alzheimer’s Foundation of America selected her as their Dementia Care Professional of the Year in 2015. During the pandemic, she has remained focused on the health and psychological needs of seniors. She is now working within her community to identify and treat deficiencies to boost immune system function in this vulnerable population.
Dr. Robert Hamilton
Schools Liaison

Dr. Robert C. Hamilton, M.D. has been a general pediatrician in Santa Monica, CA for 36 years. He studied medicine at UCLA Medical School and did his pediatric residency and Chief Residency at UCLA Medical Center as well. He is a former President of the Los Angeles Pediatric Society. Dr. Hamilton founded ‘Lighthouse Medical Missions’, a volunteer organization that organizes short-term medical missions to Africa, Asia, Central and South America. He has travelled to Africa on medical teams 26 times and his most recent trip was to Colombia to aid Venezuelan refugees leaving their country.

He is also the creator of the ‘Hamilton Hold’, a technique for calming crying babies that has been seen by over 44 million viewers worldwide on YouTube. In 2018 he authored 7 Secrets of the Newborn. He has written editorial articles for the Wall Street Journal, and appeared as a television guest on Good Morning America, The Doctor Oz Show, Fox’s Morning Show, Beijing’s CCTV show ‘Challenge Impossible’ and on Fox’ The Ingraham Angle. He has also been a guest on the Dennis Prager radio show and Eric Metaxis’ podcast. Finally, he is the host of his own podcast entitled, ‘The Hamilton Review: Where Kids and Culture Collide’.

Dr. Hamilton is the father of 6 children and the grandfather of 9 grandchildren.
Dr. Kristin Held
Policy Liaison

Dr. Kirstin Held is a board-certified ophthalmologist and ophthalmic surgeon. She is a Phi Beta Kappa Graduate from the University of Texas at Austin and received her medical degree from the University of Texas Medical School at San Antonio, where she was elected to AOA. In 2018, she received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the National Association of Women Business Owners in San Antonio. She served on the healthcare advisory team for Dr. Ben Carson during his presidential campaign and is Co-Chair of the Healthcare Advisory Council for Congressman Chip Roy. Dr. Held has had numerous articles published, including in the Washington Times, Houston Chronicle, The Hill, Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons and Dr. Carson’s American Currentsee. She has spoken across the country advocating for the patient-physician relationship and she actively shares healthcare policy information with over 48K followers on Twitter.


Dr. Held is married and has four daughters; two are physicians, and two are in business. She is proud to be an 8 year cancer survivor and remains forever grateful to her brilliant physicians and surgeons.
Dr. Mark McDonald
Mental Health Liaison

Dr. McDonald trained in both adult and child & adolescent psychiatry at UCLA and achieved double board certification. For the past eight years, he has also trained in adult psychoanalysis. He now specializes in child and adolescent psychiatry. Dr. McDonald has lived and worked in Europe, Asia, and Central America, and he is proficient in Japanese, Spanish, and French. He studied classical music, history, and literature at UC Berkeley. Before beginning his medical education, he taught in public schools. His opinions on the need to re-open America’s schools have been widely published in local and national news, including the Wall Street Journal and The Federalist.
Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo
Policy Liaison

Dr. Ladapo, MD, PhD, is a physician and health policy researcher whose primary interests include health economics, technology evaluation, and interventions to reduce cardiovascular disease risk. He is Associate Professor-in-Residence at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA. His research program is funded by the National Institutes of Health, and his writings have appeared in the Washington Post, USA Today, and the Wall Street Journal. Dr. Ladapo graduated from Wake Forest University and received his MD from Harvard Medical School and his PhD in Health Policy from Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences.
Dr. James Todaro, MD
Investigative Liaison

Dr. James Todaro received his medical degree from Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York. He then completed his ophthalmology residency. He continues to lead investigative research in COVID-19 on a global scale. He wrote the first widely read paper on chloroquine in treatment of COVID-19 in An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (COVID-19), and most recently the first detailed exposé on Surgisphere in A Study Out of Thin Air. His early discovery of the fraudulent data investigation led to what is now referred to as #LancetGate – the stunning once-in-a-generation retraction of the now infamous The Lancet study that had led to the European Union and the WHO halting studies of HCQ.
Dr. Richard Urso
Science Liaison


This is MURDER – Crimes Against Humanity

https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/06/SARS-CoV2-test-is-a-FRAUD.jpg

Let’s start calling this what it really is. This is MASS MURDER, with crimes against humanity being committed which should be prosecuted as TREASON.

And things are only going to get worse, if the American public continues to obey everything they are being told to do and just willingly surrender their freedoms and former way of life.

Because the vaccines are coming next, and they are being fast-tracked without proper testing, for a virus which has never even been isolated in a laboratory, and for which no accurate test exists because the 100+ tests currently in the market have all been fast-tracked as well, and are highly inaccurate. See:

CENSORED: COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless – Everything We’ve Been Told about COVID is a HOAX! (https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/censored-covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless-everything-weve-been-told-about-covid-is-a-hoax/)

(UPDATE: Earlier today – July 29, 2020 – we published this interview between Del Bigtree and Dr. Andrew Kaufman which had been on the Highwire YouTube channel since July 16th, and had well over 100K views. About an hour after we published this article, it disappeared. So here is a copy from our Bitchute channel (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/HlyeDvlqcVJm/).)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/w7TZzZFXX1ar

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[Constance]

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[Luke Holiday]

CENSORSHIP: CDC Takes Over Frontline Doctors’ Website and Replaces Content with Their Own Data
https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/07/Americas-Frontline-Doctors-Website-Censored.jpg
by Brian Shilhavy
Editor, Health Impact News

"As we have been reporting this week, a group of doctors who have been on the front lines treating COVID patients, successfully, descended upon Washington D.C. this week to conduct press conferences and a 2-day “White Coat Summit” to share their experiences in treating, and curing, their COVID patients.

They claim that they represent “thousands” of doctors who have been censored.

Their first press conference was sparsely attended by the Washington D.C. media, and the only media company that filmed it and shared it online, Breitbart News, was immediately censored, and the video was quickly deleted from Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter.

But the video of that press conference has been preserved, and has now been viewed by over 20 million people, and our own copy that we have published on our Bitchute Channel has been viewed over 125,000 times so far.
The Frontline Doctor’s Website was removed from the Internet. This was the page advertising their White Coat Summit in Washington D.C. earlier this week. It has been replaced with the CDC Website page on the Coronavirus.

The next day, the Frontline Doctors’ website, which used to be at https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com, was removed by the company that was hosting it.


WOW: Our website host @Squarespace has just completely and arbitrarily shut down our website, claiming a violation of their terms of service.

We are a group of physicians advocating for a better understanding of COVID-19 and its available treatment options.

This is outrageous. pic.twitter.com/TNwvpbsBGC

— Dr. Simone Gold (@drsimonegold) July 28, 2020


Two days ago, the same day as the first press conference, someone bought the domain americasfrontlinedoctors.org, which now displays the CDC’s official website about COVID-19. (See image at the top of this article.)

Why is this Life-Saving Information being Censored?
https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/07/gottlieb-fda-pfizer-warp-speed-covid-vaccine.jpg
The reason why the U.S. Government and their “health” agencies, as well as Big Tech, are censoring this information is very simple: cures to diseases are not profitable.

Millions of Americans are out of work, tens of thousands of small businesses have closed, and the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the United States has occurred during the past few months, allocating close to 2 TRILLION dollars to Big Pharma, most of it for COVID vaccines.

And all of this is a CRIMINAL ACT against the American people, if what these Frontline Doctors say is true, which is that there is a simple cure for COVID, and that “nobody has to die” from it.

When you understand what is truly happening in America and around the world today, then it is very easy to understand why Big Pharma, Big Tech, and the U.S. Government, all of whom will profit from COVID vaccines and interventions, while at the same time putting into place massive surveillance systems to take away our freedoms, would want to silence this group of doctors who simply want to stop their patients from dying due to the COVID fear.

Here is the full Summit from Day 1 which is also hard to find.


Here is the Day 2 Session:

Here is the list of Speakers that was originally published on their website that is now gone:

Speakers
Dr. Jeffrey Barke
Schools Liason
Dr. Jeffrey Barke is a Board Certified primary care physician in private practice for over 25 years. He completed his medical school and family practice residency at the University of California, Irvine. He has served as an Associate Clinical Professor at U.C. Irvine and a board member of the Orange County Medical Association. He is also a reserve deputy and a tactical physician for a local law enforcement SWAT team. Dr. Barke served as an elected school board member for the Los Alamitos Unified School District for 12 years and is the cofounder and current school board Chair of the free public charter school Orange County Classical Academy. Dr. Barke is married to his high school sweetheart and has two adult children.

Dr. Scott Barbour
Business Liason
Dr. Scott Barbour is the founder and owner of Barbour Orthopaedics & Spine with five clinics and a surgery center in Atlanta, Georgia. Dr. Barbour is fellowship-trained in sports medicine (Palo Alto medical foundation). Dr. Barbour has been a team physician for several professional sports teams including the Oakland Raiders, San Jose Sharks, USA Rugby Teams. He is currently the team physician for the Atlanta franchise of Major League Rugby professional rugby team. Dr. Barbour has appeared on numerous radio and television shows. He has published articles and book chapters on Orthopedic surgery and has been an editor for American Journal of Sports Medicine. He currently co-hosts “The Doctors Lounge” podcast on America’s Web Radio and is a board member of Docs4PatientCare foundation.

Simone Gold, MD, JD, FABEM
Founder
Dr. Simone Gold, MD, JD, FABEM, is a board certified emergency physician. She graduated from Chicago Medical School before attending Stanford University Law School to earn her Juris Doctorate degree. She completed her residency in Emergency Medicine at Stony Brook University Hospital in New York. Dr. Gold worked in Washington D.C. for the Surgeon General, as well as for the Chairman of the Labor & Human Resources Committee. She works as an emergency physician on the front-lines whether or not there is a pandemic. Her clinical work serves all Americans: from urban-inner city, to suburban and the Native American population. Her legal work focuses on policy issues relating to law and medicine.

Dr. Teryn Clarke. MD
Communications Director
Dr. Clarke is a board-certified neurologist. Her focus is on the diagnosis and management of Alzheimer’s Disease and other cognitive disorders. Her mission to educate the community and optimize lifestyle for brain health and general health. The Alzheimer’s Foundation of America selected her as their Dementia Care Professional of the Year in 2015. During the pandemic, she has remained focused on the health and psychological needs of seniors. She is now working within her community to identify and treat deficiencies to boost immune system function in this vulnerable population.

Dr. Robert Hamilton
Schools Liason
Dr. Robert C. Hamilton, M.D. has been a general pediatrician in Santa Monica, CA for 36 years. He studied medicine at UCLA Medical School and did his pediatric residency and Chief Residency at UCLA Medical Center as well. He is a former President of the Los Angeles Pediatric Society. Dr. Hamilton founded ‘Lighthouse Medical Missions’, a volunteer organization that organizes short-term medical missions to Africa, Asia, Central and South America. He has travelled to Africa on medical teams 26 times and his most recent trip was to Colombia to aid Venezuelan refugees leaving their country.

He is also the creator of the ‘Hamilton Hold’, a technique for calming crying babies that has been seen by over 44 million viewers worldwide on YouTube. In 2018 he authored 7 Secrets of the Newborn. He has written editorial articles for the Wall Street Journal, and appeared as a television guest on Good Morning America, The Doctor Oz Show, Fox’s Morning Show, Beijing’s CCTV show ‘Challenge Impossible’ and on Fox’ The Ingraham Angle. He has also been a guest on the Dennis Prager radio show and Eric Metaxis’ podcast. Finally, he is the host of his own podcast entitled, ‘The Hamilton Review: Where Kids and Culture Collide’.

Dr. Hamilton is the father of 6 children and the grandfather of 9 grandchildren.

Dr. Kristin Held
Policy Liason
Dr. Kirstin Held is a board-certified ophthalmologist and ophthalmic surgeon. She is a Phi Beta Kappa Graduate from the University of Texas at Austin and received her medical degree from the University of Texas Medical School at San Antonio, where she was elected to AOA. In 2018, she received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the National Association of Women Business Owners in San Antonio. She served on the healthcare advisory team for Dr. Ben Carson during his presidential campaign and is Co-Chair of the Healthcare Advisory Council for Congressman Chip Roy. Dr. Held has had numerous articles published, including in the Washington Times, Houston Chronicle, The Hill, Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons and Dr. Carson’s American Currentsee. She has spoken across the country advocating for the patient-physician relationship and she actively shares healthcare policy information with over 48K followers on Twitter.
Dr. Held is married and has four daughters; two are physicians, and two are in business. She is proud to be an 8 year cancer survivor and remains forever grateful to her brilliant physicians and surgeons.

Dr. Mark McDonald
Mental Health Liason
Dr. McDonald trained in both adult and child & adolescent psychiatry at UCLA and achieved double board certification. For the past eight years, he has also trained in adult psychoanalysis. He now specializes in child and adolescent psychiatry. Dr. McDonald has lived and worked in Europe, Asia, and Central America, and he is proficient in Japanese, Spanish, and French. He studied classical music, history, and literature at UC Berkeley. Before beginning his medical education, he taught in public schools. His opinions on the need to re-open America’s schools have been widely published in local and national news, including the Wall Street Journal and The Federalist.

Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo
Policy Liason
Dr. Ladapo, MD, PhD, is a physician and health policy researcher whose primary interests include health economics, technology evaluation, and interventions to reduce cardiovascular disease risk. He is Associate Professor-in-Residence at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA. His research program is funded by the National Institutes of Health, and his writings have appeared in the Washington Post, USA Today, and the Wall Street Journal. Dr. Ladapo graduated from Wake Forest University and received his MD from Harvard Medical School and his PhD in Health Policy from Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences.<

Dr. James Todaro, MD
Investigative Liason<
Dr. James Todaro received his medical degree from Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York. He then completed his ophthalmology residency. He continues to lead investigative research in COVID-19 on a global scale. He wrote the first widely read paper on chloroquine in treatment of COVID-19 in An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (COVID-19), and most recently the first detailed exposé on Surgisphere in A Study Out of Thin Air. His early discovery of the fraudulent data investigation led to what is now referred to as #LancetGate – the stunning once-in-a-generation retraction of the now infamous The Lancet study that had led to the European Union and the WHO halting studies of HCQ.

Dr. Richard Urso
Science Liason

This is MURDER – Crimes Against Humanity
https://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/06/SARS-CoV2-test-is-a-FRAUD.jpg

Let’s start calling this what it really is. This is MASS MURDER, with crimes against humanity being committed which should be prosecuted as TREASON.

And things are only going to get worse, if the American public continues to obey everything they are being told to do and just willingly surrender their freedoms and former way of life.

Because the vaccines are coming next, and they are being fast-tracked without proper testing, for a virus which has never even been isolated in a laboratory, and for which no accurate test exists because the 100+ tests currently in the market have all been fast-tracked as well, and are highly inaccurate. See:

CENSORED: COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless – Everything We’ve Been Told about COVID is a HOAX!
(UPDATE: Earlier today – July 29, 2020 – we published this interview between Del Bigtree and Dr. Andrew Kaufman which had been on the Highwire YouTube channel since July 16th, and had well over 100K views. About an hour after we published this article, it disappeared. So here is a copy from our Bitchute channel.)
Comment on this article at HealthImpactNews.com."

...Interestingly , Pfizer is also the manufacturer of the antibiotic Zithromax - which was touted as part of the : "Cure for Covid" by the Frontline physician's group. It would appear that Pfizer offered the bigger bribe or was able to call in a few favors:)


I am stating here for the record that prescribing Zithromax or any Antibiotic for Covid 1984 is malpractice as it is well established that antibiotics have no effect on viral related illness's - in fact this will only further debilitate the patient by obliterating gut probiotics. [/B].

https://www.infowars.com/study-antibiotics-use-increases-risk-of-inflammatory-bowel-disease/


(Remember the virus has not been properly identified, nor is there a valid test for the symptom complex currently being labeled as CV 19). Research was never done - source: Jon Rappaport, David Icke, Dr. Kaufman, Dr. Cowan etc....I will also state the Medical scientific establishment because no scientific study exists to refute my claim.

https://www.drugs.com/article/antibiotics-and-viruses.html

Blessings Luke

PS: What happened to DJT?

[mountain_jim]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/frontline-doctor-viral-hcq-video-fired-job



Frontline ER Doctor From Viral HCQ Video Fired From Job

Just days after the establishment - via its Big Tech partners and liberal media propagandists - entirely disappeared a viral video of a dozen doctors discussing their real-life experiences of treating COVID-19 (and in some cases using the "extremely dangerous" medicine - if mainstream media is to be believed - hydroxchloroquine) and getting children back to school; the founder of "America's Frontline Doctors" - Dr. Simone Gold - has been fired from her job as an Emergency Medicine Specialist in Los Angeles, CA.

As we previously noted, in the video, Dr. Gold said:

“We’re here because we feel as though the American people have not heard from all the expertise that’s out there all across our country.”

She is also the head organizer of an open letter signed by more than 600 doctors calling on President Trump to end lockdown. The letter described widespread state orders keeping businesses closed and children home from school as a “mass casualty incident” with “exponentially growing health consequences.”

The video was entirely disappeared from the web (except if you know where to look) within hours, and two days ago, Dr. Gold stated in a recent tweet that:

“Our website host @Squarespace has just completely and arbitrarily shut down our website, claiming a violation of their terms of service.”

Gold had defended her views - which reflected her real-life experience as a board-certified doctor specializing in emergency medicine, not a journalist playing one on TV! - saying in a tweet that “there are always opposing views in medicine,” but that opposition should not be grounds for censorship.

Treatment options for COVID-19 should be debated, and spoken about among our colleagues in the medical field,” she wrote.

“They should never, however, be censored and silenced.”

But now, Dr. Gold has lost her job after her employer found out about the viral video where she dared to discuss hydroxychloroquine.

"Until what seems like 5 minutes ago I was considered a 'hero' [as a frontline emergency physician] with people clapping at what I was doing... but now i have been summarily fired for appearing in what was told to me was 'an embarrassing video'."

[One]

...Interestingly , Pfizer is also the manufacturer of the antibiotic Zithromax - which was touted as part of the : "Cure for Covid" by the Frontline physician's group. It would appear that Pfizer offered the bigger bribe or was able to call in a few favors:)


I am stating here for the record that prescribing Zithromax or any Antibiotic for Covid 1984 is malpractice as it is well established that antibiotics have no effect on viral related illness's - in fact this will only further debilitate the patient by obliterating gut probiotics. [/B].

https://www.infowars.com/study-antibiotics-use-increases-risk-of-inflammatory-bowel-disease/


(Remember the virus has not been properly identified, nor is there a valid test for the symptom complex currently being labeled as CV 19). Research was never done - source: Jon Rappaport, David Icke, Dr. Kaufman, Dr. Cowan etc....I will also state the Medical scientific establishment because no scientific study exists to refute my claim.

https://www.drugs.com/article/antibiotics-and-viruses.html

Blessings Luke

PS: What happened to DJT?

Are you joking Luke? That has to be the weakest argument I have ever heard. A load of doctors putting their jobs on the line and it was to promote some antibiotics?

You needn't of added links about gut flora damage. I'm sure nearly everyone here is well aware of that issue. Malpractice? Again you have got to be kidding?

[Gwin Ru]

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First published at 13:27 UTC on July 31st, 2020.

Infowars (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/infowars/)
Infowars - Alex Jones Channel (https://www.bitchute.com/profile/37LtOAayc4Wy/)

Another video has emerged that's been removed from social media. This time, Dr. Lisa Koche, MD is speaking out about the coronavirus, mass censorship and the true benefits of hydroxychloroquine. Spread the word!

Dr. Lisa Koche, MD is a Internal Medicine Specialist in Tampa, FL and has over 24 years of experience in the medical field. She graduated from Emory University medical school in 1996. She is affiliated with St. Joseph's Hospital.

[Gwin Ru]

Yale Professor of Epidemiology Endorses Anti-Covid Drug Hydroxychloroquine (https://needtoknow.news/2020/07/yale-professor-of-epidemiology-endorses-anti-covid-drug-hydroxychloroquine/)

July 31, 2020 (https://needtoknow.news/2020/07/) Newsweek (https://needtoknow.news/author/bookworm33/) 0 (https://needtoknow.news/2020/07/yale-professor-of-epidemiology-endorses-anti-covid-drug-hydroxychloroquine/#mh-comments)


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Yale professor Dr. Harvey Risch, Youtube


Harvey Risch, a professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, fully endorses the use of the anti-viral drug, hydroxychloroquine, coupled with azithromycin and zinc, to treat patients with COVID-19 symptoms. He says it can save the lives of tens of thousands of patients. He cited a number of studies with hundreds of high-risk patients that resulted in zero deaths and reduced hospitalization risk. He says hydroxychloroquine has become disregarded because it has been politicized (Trump recommended it), it was not used properly in several studies when given to patients, and an FDA report claiming thousands cases of arrhythmias were reported from use of the drug. The report was criminally distorted, however, because the adverse effects were generated from tens of millions of patients’ use over long periods of time and did not honestly reflect the risk rate.

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As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly.

I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.

On May 27, I published an article in the American Journal of Epidemiology (AJE) entitled, “Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis.” That article, published in the world’s leading epidemiology journal, analyzed five studies, demonstrating clear-cut and significant benefits to treated patients, plus other very large studies that showed the medication safety.

Physicians who have been using these medications in the face of widespread skepticism have been truly heroic. They have done what the science shows is best for their patients, often at great personal risk. I myself know of two doctors who have saved the lives of hundreds of patients with these medications, but are now fighting state medical boards to save their licenses and reputations. The cases against them are completely without scientific merit.

Since publication of my May 27 article, seven more studies have demonstrated similar benefit. In a lengthy follow-up letter, also published by AJE, I discuss these seven studies and renew my call for the immediate early use of hydroxychloroquine in high-risk patients. These seven studies include: an additional 400 high-risk patients treated by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, with zero deaths; four studies totaling almost 500 high-risk patients treated in nursing homes and clinics across the U.S., with no deaths; a controlled trial of more than 700 high-risk patients in Brazil, with significantly reduced risk of hospitalization and two deaths among 334 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine; and another study of 398 matched patients in France, also with significantly reduced hospitalization risk. Since my letter was published, even more doctors have reported to me their completely successful use.

Read full article here… (https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535)

Dr. Risch’s Study Published in May 2020:
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586

[mountain_jim]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/esteemed-french-dr-didier-raoult-testifies-person-behind-death-threats-top-doctor-linked-gilead-pharmaceuticals/



Esteemed French Dr. Didier Raoult Testifies Person Behind Death Threats He Received Is Top Doctor Linked to Gilead Pharmaceuticals

Way back in late March Laura Ingraham reported on the latest study by the French research team led by the renowned epidemiologist Dr. Didier Raoult that was able to repeat his findings from a previous study.

This time Dr. Raoult administered hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to 80 patients and observed improvement in EVERY CASE except for a very sick 86-year-old with an advanced form of coronavirus infection.

This was very promising news once again from Dr. Didier Raoult.

Unfortunately, this doctor’s work with the cheap readily available drug helped President Trump so the the liberal media either ignored, attacked or mocked his research.

Dr. Raoult tweeted his results.

Translated: Our two articles published tonight help to demonstrate:
1. The effectiveness of our protocol, on 80 patients.
2. The relevance of the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, thanks to research carried out in our P3 containment laboratory.

It is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR TODAY that Dr. Raoult was correct in his findings.

Today there are over 5 global studies that support the doctor’s findings that HCQ is a cheap and very effective treatment for coronavirus.

Unfortunately, this was not the preferred treatment by professionals who hoped to reap vast rewards for their own treatment for the coronavirus. Gilead pharmaceuticals was hoping to promote its own drug remdesivir as a potential option to treat the disease. Gilead had the support of Dr. Anthony Fauci who downplayed HCQ at every opportunity.

The opposition to Dr. Didier Raoult was so strong that he even received death threats.

During testimony before parliament Dr. Raoult told lawmakers under oath that the person who sent him death threats was a top recipient of Gilead Pharmaceuticals.

Via Covexit:

Professor Raoult testified that, shortly after he started to talk about HCQ as a treatment, in March, he received anonymous death threats. He filed a complaint with the police, and an enquiry was opened by the French judiciary. The medical doctor behind the threats was found and happens to be from a Nantes university hospital. It happened to be the person who received the most money from Gilead over the past 6 years. Professor Raoult presents this as a “personal experience.” In his testimony, he remained diplomatic and suggested “to be attentive to this level of problem.”

[greybeard]

This Is Sad & Unfortunate!!! U.S Doctor Sacked For Appearing On Video With Dr Stella Immanuel


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YzgghPKAzI

Los Angeles-based physician, Dr. Simone Gold, says she has been fired by her organization for sharing her views about Hydroxychloroquine, alongside Dr. Stella Emmanuel.

Gold , Emmanuel and other physicians under the aegies of America's Frontline Doctors, during the week, had claimed that hydroxychloroquine, zinc and zithromax could cure covid-19.

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/AAPSonline/status/1289331285727404033?s=20

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[greybeard]

The reason I posted this here is Dolores has been asked to resign from top positions for coming out with opposing information to the official one
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ucd-professor-asked-to-resign-from-eu-committee-over-covid-19-claims-1.4277698

The Truth About Hydroxychloroquine - Prof Dolores Cahill


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xT72JoQ3-Q


Would you listen to someone who has a Phd in immunology. Has run level 3 bio-labs. Set the global standards for research in this field, is on the International Science Advisory Board and advises Governments, Research foundations and hospitals?

[Mercedes]

The reason I posted this here is Dolores has been asked to resign from top positions for coming out with opposing information to the official one
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ucd-professor-asked-to-resign-from-eu-committee-over-covid-19-claims-1.4277698

The Truth About Hydroxychloroquine - Prof Dolores Cahill


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xT72JoQ3-Q


Would you listen to someone who has a Phd in immunology. Has run level 3 bio-labs. Set the global standards for research in this field, is on the International Science Advisory Board and advises Governments, Research foundations and hospitals?


Hope you do not mind me copying the video and your words posted at the end of it to share on Fb, lets see how long they let it be.

[Luke Holiday]

...Interestingly , Pfizer is also the manufacturer of the antibiotic Zithromax - which was touted as part of the : "Cure for Covid" by the Frontline physician's group. It would appear that Pfizer offered the bigger bribe or was able to call in a few favors:)


I am stating here for the record that prescribing Zithromax or any Antibiotic for Covid 1984 is malpractice as it is well established that antibiotics have no effect on viral related illness's - in fact this will only further debilitate the patient by obliterating gut probiotics. [/B].

https://www.infowars.com/study-antibiotics-use-increases-risk-of-inflammatory-bowel-disease/


(Remember the virus has not been properly identified, nor is there a valid test for the symptom complex currently being labeled as CV 19). Research was never done - source: Jon Rappaport, David Icke, Dr. Kaufman, Dr. Cowan etc....I will also state the Medical scientific establishment because no scientific study exists to refute my claim.

https://www.drugs.com/article/antibiotics-and-viruses.html

Blessings Luke

PS: What happened to DJT?

Are you joking Luke? That has to be the weakest argument I have ever heard. A load of doctors putting their jobs on the line and it was to promote some antibiotics?

You needn't of added links about gut flora damage. I'm sure nearly everyone here is well aware of that issue. Malpractice? Again you have got to be kidding?

No, I am definitely not joking .. I am wondering about you though... So you advocate using antibiotics for viral illness's - Now here is where you will find that joke you were talking about.


https://www.drugs.com/article/antibi...d-viruses.html (Title Why Don’t Antibiotics Kill Viruses?) - So yes, 100% malpractice.


Also.. I will continue to back up my posts with information/studies ... You should try it - unless of course your joking....:) ... or just want to hyde....


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111572-PubMed-science-journal-states-5G-could-produce-virus-like-structures-such-as-coronavirus&highlight=Pubmed

Blessings Luke

[Luke Holiday]

I was researching the topic: "if a virus has ever been shown to effect RBC's in away that causes them to denature and become unable to hold O2." I do not believe they could in any tangible direct way because RBC's do not carry DNA.

I did find this interesting article on the subject. It is long but their are subtitles if you wish to peruse.

Blessings Luke


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[/COLOR]Covid-19: Debunking the Hemoglobin Story
Matthew Amdahl, MD, PhD
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In recent days, I’ve had a number of people ask me for my thoughts on a now-deleted Medium blog post entitled “Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.” It seems that, even following its deletion, this post has become widely shared in an archived form, largely by people who seem to entirely accept its premise. That premise, to be very brief, is essentially that the SARS-CoV-2 virus harms patients entirely through its interactions with the oxygen transport protein hemoglobin (Hb). A Google search for the title will still turn up the post, should you wish to read (or re-read) it.

A bit about me, and why people have sent me this blog post: in December 2019, I completed my MD degree at the University of Pittsburgh through the Medical Scientist Training Program (MD/PhD program). As part of that same program, I spent 4 years completing a PhD in Bioengineering; the focus of my dissertation was the molecular biology, biochemistry, and physiology of mammalian heme globins. As a result, I’ve spent the last 7+ years at the intersection of clinical medicine and heme globin research and felt compelled to offer my perspective on this blog post. I’ve been assisted in writing this piece by Drs. Anthony DeMartino, PhD and Matt Dent, PhD, both postdoctoral scholars in the lab where I completed my PhD and both ten times better chemists than I could ever hope to be.

But back to the post: the Medium blog post in question simultaneously puts forth two related narratives, one “scientific” (or at least presented to give that appearance) and one clinical. Both are told with an overriding tone of authority and certainty; unfortunately, both are also almost entirely incorrect in their overall conclusions and the specific details used to support those conclusions. As is so often the case, refuting this sort of misinformation requires a good deal more effort (and words) than propagating it, but we have done our best to address everything.

The Purportedly “Scientific” Narrative

Before getting into the details, I want to take a brief aside to describe hemoglobin. A single hemoglobin protein consists of two parts: heme (which itself is made up of a small chemical ring called a porphyrin + an iron atom in the center), and the globin, a large protein that holds the heme. The hemoglobin molecule in our red blood cells is actually comprised of four hemes and their four respective proteins (two alpha proteins and two beta) that are linked together to form a tetramer. In each of these chains, the heme is surrounded by its respective protein, which forms a small space referred to as the “heme pocket” around the heme. This pocket is just large enough to accommodate oxygen, carbon monoxide, and other small molecules that bind to the heme iron.

The blog post’s “scientific” narrative begins with the SARS-CoV-2 virus entering red blood cells (RBCs). Once inside the RBCs, the post states that the virus rapidly removes the iron from RBC hemoglobin molecules, leading to 1) depletion of functional hemoglobin (with the virus bound to its porphyrin ring) and 2) accumulation of toxic iron in the bloodstream. All of the clinical manifestations of Covid-19 are subsequently attributed to this process, despite the fact that there’s effectively no evidence to support such a mechanism of viral entry into RBCs and interaction with hemoglobin. Alarmingly, the blog post relies on a series of assumptions that have little to no support within the current scientific literature.

First, it is unclear that the virus enters red blood cells at all. Reviewing the currently published literature, I am unable to find any evidence for significant SARS-CoV-2 entry into red blood cells. While it is possible that interactions between the virus and RBCs may have been overlooked (the majority of research has understandably focused on lung disease), there is currently no evidence to suggest that red blood cells are a significant site of virus localization or replication. If the hypothesis is that most of this virus’s toxic effect arises from interactions with Hb, documenting viral entry into RBCs would be an important first step.

That said, we do have some idea of where this virus is going. For example, one study examined lung tissue samples from a patient who died of Covid-19 and found results consistent with diffuse alveolar damage (damage to the small air sacs in the lungs where gas exchange occurs) [1]. The same study found that the virus itself localized primarily to the epithelial cells lining those same alveoli. While RBCs appear to have been washed out before the tissue samples were examined (leaving empty blood vessels), the blood vessels themselves, as well as the tissue between the air sacs, showed little to no virus. Overall, the study suggests that the virus, and the resultant damage, are found primarily in the lung alveoli.

The blog post author presumes that the virus does enter RBCs, and that viral “glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is ‘disassociated’ (released).” This spurious claim, for which the blog post author provides no evidence, seems to derive from a misinterpretation of a recent preprint of a paper in ChemRxiv. This pre-print manuscript proposes a possible mechanism for the virus to “attack” (a term they never define) hemoglobin and release the heme from the protein [2]. While the blog post author does not cite this work (or any other work, for that matter), the conclusions and language are similar enough that it seems very likely the scientific paper inspired the blog post.

On a close reading, the ChemRxiv paper is itself seriously flawed, and provides nothing that I or my colleagues consider meaningful evidence of a mechanism by which SARS-CoV-2 could “attack” hemoglobin. I do plan to work on a second piece further discussing the problems with this paper, but for now, here is a summary of that work: the authors claim to provide evidence that certain viral proteins can bind to isolated porphyrin (without the iron and not bound to any protein). They also argue that the virus may somehow force the heme out of the protein, and subsequently the iron out of the heme, to allow this sort of binding. This is all based on rather rudimentary analysis, relying solely on protein sequence similarity and questionable modeling of molecular docking. Notably, the work was entirely performed in silico (via computer models), which is usually an initial screening step that has to be verified with in vitro (experimental, e.g., in a test tube or petri dish) data. The authors themselves state in their abstract that “[t]his paper is only for academic discussion, the correctness needs to be confirmed by other laboratories”. Aside from this introductory disclaimer, the authors do a poor job of qualifying their results and emphasizing the highly preliminary nature of their work. It is easy to see how a reader without a healthy dose of scientific skepticism could overinterpret the results given the strong language used throughout the manuscript.

Nevertheless, the Medium blog post seems to take this questionable work as hard truth and proceeds to extend the conclusion several steps further, claiming that the virus will go right into the heme pocket and replace the intact heme iron, all while the porphyrin remains bound to the protein. Beyond the questionable evidence for virus binding the porphyrin at all, the issue here is that the heme/porphyrin is still in the heme pocket, a space barely large enough for two-atom molecules like oxygen (O2). Despite that, the blog post author seems to believe the virus (which is larger than the entire hemoglobin protein) will be able to enter the pocket, kick out the iron, and bind the porphyrin while leaving the porphyrin and protein otherwise totally intact. To put it charitably, this would be an entirely novel and seemingly impossible sort of chemistry, and there is absolutely no scientific evidence that supports such a possibility. It’s this seemingly impossible interaction that forms the foundation of the blog post’s entire argument, and so the remainder of the conclusions drawn by the blogger simply don’t carry any weight.

The clinical story

From here, using this faulty scientific narrative as a basis, the author creates an equally faulty narrative of the clinical progression of the disease. The failure of the scientific narrative largely invalidates the subsequent clinical narrative, which is almost entirely based on that faulty science. Thus, rather than pick apart the entire clinical model, I’m going to highlight some key points that I want to refute specifically. First, while this narrative is a bit more difficult to follow, I will attempt to summarize it herein.

The blog post suggests (paraphrasing here outside of direct quotes): As the patient’s Hb loses iron, that patient will desaturate (lose oxygen from their hemoglobin). This desaturation has nothing to do with lung dysfunction as “there is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS” and “the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry [oxygen], end of story”. The free iron that has been released overwhelms the lung’s defense mechanisms against this toxic free iron, leading to bilateral lung damage, which is held to be significant by the author because “Pneumonia rarely ever does that [causes damage in both lungs], but COVID-19 does… EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.”

Again, this probably sounds like a compelling, reasonable series of events to a lay person. In reality, it is essentially nonsense built upon a deeply flawed understanding of physiology and pathophysiology. Some key points, and my responses:

Blog post says: Patients desaturate as their hemoglobin loses iron

Reality: Even if the virus were to eject the iron from hemoglobin (which it almost certainly does not), it would not likely result in a measurable desaturation. Saturation is most commonly measured via pulse oximetry (pulseox), which uses light to differentiate Hb with oxygen from Hb without oxygen. Both these forms of Hb, however, have the iron present, and most clinical pulse oximeters only work when these two forms — and only these two forms — of Hb are present [3]. A novel form of Hb with the virus in place of the iron would absorb light very differently from either of these forms, and such a protein (if it could exist) would almost certainly result in incomprehensible pulseox readings, not a desaturation.

Even ignoring these technical aspects, a far more likely explanation for a measured desaturation in Covid-19 patients would be inadequate oxygenation of the blood due to lung disease/damage (which we know is present). Indeed, we know that Covid-19 patients who are oxygenating poorly respond to supplemental oxygen, as the author seems to acknowledge when suggesting oxygen as a therapy. Improvement with more oxygen effectively rules out iron loss as a cause of this desaturation, as providing more oxygen will increase oxygen binding to normal Hb with intact iron but could not put iron back into Hb that had lost it.

Blog post says: Release of iron from Hb is the source of all observed pathology in Covid-19, including bilateral lung damage, which pneumonia “rarely ever” causes.

Reality: There’s simply no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 infection leads to the large-scale release of iron from Hb, or that such release would be sufficient to overwhelm the body’s numerous mechanisms for regulation of free iron. Even if it did, however, I’m unable to find evidence that pure iron overload (in the absence of other pathologies) leads to significant lung damage, much less the bilateral pneumonia-like pattern seen in many Covid-19 patients [4]. In contrast, bilateral lung damage is actually a fairly common manifestation of pneumonia caused by viral infections [5].

Blog post says: “There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with.”

Reality: Both are clearly present. The clinical picture, despite what the author might think, is generally consistent with viral pneumonia, and progression to ARDS has been well-documented. One study in China found that, out of 201 patients with confirmed Covid-19, roughly 42% developed a clinical picture consistent with ARDS [6]. The mortality rate among these patients was over 52%, while there were no deaths among those that did not develop ARDS. The blog post may be somewhat correct about the resultant ARDS being atypical. There is a letter out of Northern Italy suggesting that ARDS arising from Covid-19 may not require or could even be harmed by high-pressure mechanical ventilation [7], but this same letter suggests that intubation and mechanical ventilation without high pressures should be prioritized for patients who are struggling to breathe, not avoided as suggested in the blog post.

Suggested treatments

Finally, and perhaps most troublingly, the author of the blog post, who has no medical background, suggests a number of therapies for their imagined mechanism of this disease.

Treatment 1: “Max oxygen”, or hyperbaric chamber with 100% O2 at multiple atmospheres of pressure

It’s unclear what the author thinks this would achieve. If their model of virus-induced hemoglobin dysfunction via iron loss is true (it isn’t, but if it was), the affected Hb absolutely CANNOT bind oxygen. Providing more oxygen, via a ventilator or a hyperbaric chamber, would not magically put the iron back in Hb. To take a generous interpretation, the author may be suggesting that free iron eventually causes lung damage, which subsequently prevents oxygen from getting into the blood, even though our current understanding is that this damage is in fact caused by the virus and our immune response. Regardless of the source of lung damage, however, intubation and mechanical ventilation remains the standard of care in critically ill patients with hypoxic respiratory failure, as even the report of atypical ARDS from Italy suggests [7].

EDIT, 04/13/2020: A reader, Dr. Merveldt-Guevara, brought to my attention that hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) likely would benefit patients with iron loss from Hb by allowing more oxygen to be dissolved directly in the blood without binding to hemoglobin. She is absolutely correct about this, and I want to thank her for setting me straight. While there remains no compelling reason to suspect such iron loss, HBOT is well-documented to increase the amount of oxygen that reaches the blood, and thus may have therapeutic potential for these patients even if their Hb remains entirely normal. I have reached out to some far more qualified colleagues for their opinions on this, and will update if I hear back.

Treatment 2: Blood transfusion with “normal hemoglobin”

The blog post is correct that a transfusion of donor red blood cells (or whole blood) would temporarily increase the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood. However, beyond the blog post’s unfounded assertions, I can find no case reports or any other data suggesting that profound anemia or loss of oxygen carrying capacity exacerbates the effects of Covid-19 in patients, and so there’s no reason to believe a transfusion of RBCs would result in clinical improvement.

Even if the author were correct, a red blood cell transfusion would likely do more harm than good after a brief initial improvement. For example, we know that some degree of hemolysis (RBC destruction) occurs during storage of blood and after transfusion, eventually leading to release of toxic byproducts such as free heme. Furthermore, if the core premise of the blog post is accepted, the transfused RBCs would also have their Hb attacked by the virus, negating any increase in oxygen carrying capacity and worsening the accumulation of iron in the blood. A transfusion, if we accept the author’s argument about hemoglobin and iron, amounts to throwing logs onto a raging fire, claiming you’re putting the fire out because those logs haven’t burned up yet, and then watching the fire grow bigger as it consumes those logs as well.

Just to clarify, there is some evidence in favor of a plasma transfusion from recovered Covid-19 patients, as the antibodies contained therein can augment the recipient’s immune function.The blog post, however, seems very dismissive of this therapy, suggesting it would be ineffective without a simultaneous transfusion of red blood cells despite the lack of any evidence to support this claim.

Treatment 3: Hydroxychloroquine

The author of the blog post also recommends early treatment with hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), which in their words is “…suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin”. A preface: I am not making a broader claim here about the effectiveness of HCQ in Covid-19, which remains under investigation. But this author’s specific arguments about HCQ do not stand up to scrutiny.

For example, I’m not sure where the author found this “suspected” mechanism of action. The true mechanism of action of HCQ and other quinoline-based anti-malaria drugs has been studied extensively. It is known that these drugs prevent the malaria parasite from sequestering free heme (the result of hemoglobin consumption) in food vacuoles, where the toxic heme molecules are normally converted to relatively harmless, crystalline deposits of hemozoin [8]. Importantly, HCQ does not prevent the release of toxic iron from heme, nor does the drug prevent an interaction with hemoglobin (the protein component of which is still consumed by the parasite). Instead, HCQ disrupts formation of the inert hemozoin crystals, thereby allowing the accumulation of toxic heme (porphyrin and iron together), which causes oxidative damage that ultimately kills the parasite.

Also, the virus is a protein envelope surrounding a length of coding RNA (it’s an RNA virus) and contains literally not a single piece of DNA anywhere, so a DNA binding mechanism would have no relevance here. Even beyond this virus, I cannot find anything suggesting DNA binding is a significant mediator of HCQ’s effects on malaria, autoimmunity, or any other disease state. Its primary effect is thought to occur in lysosomes/food vacuoles, where it prevents acidification as a weak base and may otherwise inhibit hemozoin formation (in malaria) and antigen presentation/immune activation (in autoimmune disease) [9, 10]. As a final thought, HCQ being a weak base means that the author’s statement that it “lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus” is certainly incorrect, as it is a base and thus would prevent lowering of pH (acidification).

Final Thoughts

The above discussion is by no means an exhaustive list of the blog post’s incorrect statements or conclusions. Nonetheless, I hope it has been sufficient to make clear that the blog post, and even the scientific article that likely inspired it, should not be viewed as a source of any meaningful insight into SARS-CoV-2, how it affects patients, or how the virus might be treated. What I still don’t know is why the blog post author, under a pseudonym, chose to present such an incorrect description of this disease and the underlying pathophysiology with such confidence. That they would go so far as to suggest treatments for the disease despite a lack of any medical training, and in virtually the same paragraph condemn “armchair pseudo-physicians” who push incorrect information, is truly mind-boggling. Tragically, whether it arises from genuine malice, unfounded arrogance, or just simple ignorance, this sort of misinformation about a deadly pandemic can genuinely put lives at risk, and it’s up to those of us who work in this field to fight back against it in whatever way we can.

Finally, while I’ve been very critical of this blog post author, I do have to give them credit for making one very insightful comment, right near the end, that I want to single out for praise:

“Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician.”

On this, at least, we can agree.

References Cited:

1. Zhang, H., et al., Histopathologic Changes and SARS-CoV-2 Immunostaining in the Lung of a Patient With COVID-19. Ann Intern Med, 2020.

2. Wenzhong, L. and L. Hualan, COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism. ChemRxiv, 2020.

3. Jubran, A., Pulse oximetry. Crit Care, 2015. 19: p. 272.

4. Ganz, T., Does Pathological Iron Overload Impair the Function of Human Lungs? EBioMedicine, 2017. 20: p. 13–14.

5. Galvan, J.M., O. Rajas, and J. Aspa, Review of Non-Bacterial Infections in Respiratory Medicine: Viral Pneumonia. Arch Bronconeumol, 2015. 51(11): p. 590–7.

6. Wu, C., et al., Risk Factors Associated With Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome and Death in Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019 Pneumonia in Wuhan, China. JAMA Intern Med, 2020.

7. Gattinoni, L., et al., Covid-19 Does Not Lead to a “Typical” Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. Am J Respir Crit Care Med, 2020.

8. Coronado, L.M., C.T. Nadovich, and C. Spadafora, Malarial hemozoin: from target to tool. Biochim Biophys Acta, 2014. 1840(6): p. 2032–41.

9. Fox, R.I., Mechanism of action of hydroxychloroquine as an antirheumatic drug. Semin Arthritis Rheum, 1993. 23(2 Suppl 1): p. 82–91.

10. Liu, J., et al., Hydroxychloroquine, a less toxic derivative of chloroquine, is effective in inhibiting SARS-CoV-2 infection in vitro. Cell Discov, 2020. 6: p. 16.


Interesting Lit review article on CV and hemoglobin.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111572-PubMed-science-journal-states-5G-could-produce-virus-like-structures-such-as-coronavirus&highlight=Pubmed

https://covirusnews.com/can-5g-exposure-alter-the-structure-and-function-of-hemoglobin-causing-coronavirus-patients-to-die-from-oxygen-deprivation

[One]

...Interestingly , Pfizer is also the manufacturer of the antibiotic Zithromax - which was touted as part of the : "Cure for Covid" by the Frontline physician's group. It would appear that Pfizer offered the bigger bribe or was able to call in a few favors:)


I am stating here for the record that prescribing Zithromax or any Antibiotic for Covid 1984 is malpractice as it is well established that antibiotics have no effect on viral related illness's - in fact this will only further debilitate the patient by obliterating gut probiotics. [/B].

https://www.infowars.com/study-antibiotics-use-increases-risk-of-inflammatory-bowel-disease/


(Remember the virus has not been properly identified, nor is there a valid test for the symptom complex currently being labeled as CV 19). Research was never done - source: Jon Rappaport, David Icke, Dr. Kaufman, Dr. Cowan etc....I will also state the Medical scientific establishment because no scientific study exists to refute my claim.

https://www.drugs.com/article/antibiotics-and-viruses.html

Blessings Luke

PS: What happened to DJT?

Are you joking Luke? That has to be the weakest argument I have ever heard. A load of doctors putting their jobs on the line and it was to promote some antibiotics?

You needn't of added links about gut flora damage. I'm sure nearly everyone here is well aware of that issue. Malpractice? Again you have got to be kidding?

No, I am definitely not joking .. I am wondering about you though... So you advocate using antibiotics for viral illness's - Now here is where you will find that joke you were talking about.


https://www.drugs.com/article/antibi...d-viruses.html (Title Why Don’t Antibiotics Kill Viruses?) - So yes, 100% malpractice.


Also.. I will continue to back up my posts with information/studies ... You should try it - unless of course your joking....:)

Blessings Luke

As I stated earlier, I and probably everybody else here is aware that antibiotics don't work on viruses and shouldn't be used unless necessary. You don't need to link what is accepted as general knowledge.

Doctors still over subscribe antibiotics it would seem from my experience and I don't know why they mentioned it.

But to discount the experience of all those doctors, who have banded together at great personal risk, as being paid off to promote some cheap drugs is patently rediculous.

You copy and paste as much of this "science" as you like in your defense, but that won't negate the obvious truth of this situation for most of us here.

You just can't get the staff :thumbsup:

[samildamach]

I was researching the topic: "if a virus has ever been shown to effect RBC's in away that causes them to denature and become unable to hold O2." I do not believe they could in any tangible direct way because RBC's do not carry DNA.

I did find this interesting article on the subject. It is long but their are subtitles if you wish to peruse.

Blessings Luke


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[/COLOR]Covid-19: Debunking the Hemoglobin Story
Matthew Amdahl, MD, PhD
Matthew Amdahl, MD, PhD
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Apr 11 · 14 min read



In recent days, I’ve had a number of people ask me for my thoughts on a now-deleted Medium blog post entitled “Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.” It seems that, even following its deletion, this post has become widely shared in an archived form, largely by people who seem to entirely accept its premise. That premise, to be very brief, is essentially that the SARS-CoV-2 virus harms patients entirely through its interactions with the oxygen transport protein hemoglobin (Hb). A Google search for the title will still turn up the post, should you wish to read (or re-read) it.

A bit about me, and why people have sent me this blog post: in December 2019, I completed my MD degree at the University of Pittsburgh through the Medical Scientist Training Program (MD/PhD program). As part of that same program, I spent 4 years completing a PhD in Bioengineering; the focus of my dissertation was the molecular biology, biochemistry, and physiology of mammalian heme globins. As a result, I’ve spent the last 7+ years at the intersection of clinical medicine and heme globin research and felt compelled to offer my perspective on this blog post. I’ve been assisted in writing this piece by Drs. Anthony DeMartino, PhD and Matt Dent, PhD, both postdoctoral scholars in the lab where I completed my PhD and both ten times better chemists than I could ever hope to be.

But back to the post: the Medium blog post in question simultaneously puts forth two related narratives, one “scientific” (or at least presented to give that appearance) and one clinical. Both are told with an overriding tone of authority and certainty; unfortunately, both are also almost entirely incorrect in their overall conclusions and the specific details used to support those conclusions. As is so often the case, refuting this sort of misinformation requires a good deal more effort (and words) than propagating it, but we have done our best to address everything.

The Purportedly “Scientific” Narrative

Before getting into the details, I want to take a brief aside to describe hemoglobin. A single hemoglobin protein consists of two parts: heme (which itself is made up of a small chemical ring called a porphyrin + an iron atom in the center), and the globin, a large protein that holds the heme. The hemoglobin molecule in our red blood cells is actually comprised of four hemes and their four respective proteins (two alpha proteins and two beta) that are linked together to form a tetramer. In each of these chains, the heme is surrounded by its respective protein, which forms a small space referred to as the “heme pocket” around the heme. This pocket is just large enough to accommodate oxygen, carbon monoxide, and other small molecules that bind to the heme iron.

The blog post’s “scientific” narrative begins with the SARS-CoV-2 virus entering red blood cells (RBCs). Once inside the RBCs, the post states that the virus rapidly removes the iron from RBC hemoglobin molecules, leading to 1) depletion of functional hemoglobin (with the virus bound to its porphyrin ring) and 2) accumulation of toxic iron in the bloodstream. All of the clinical manifestations of Covid-19 are subsequently attributed to this process, despite the fact that there’s effectively no evidence to support such a mechanism of viral entry into RBCs and interaction with hemoglobin. Alarmingly, the blog post relies on a series of assumptions that have little to no support within the current scientific literature.

First, it is unclear that the virus enters red blood cells at all. Reviewing the currently published literature, I am unable to find any evidence for significant SARS-CoV-2 entry into red blood cells. While it is possible that interactions between the virus and RBCs may have been overlooked (the majority of research has understandably focused on lung disease), there is currently no evidence to suggest that red blood cells are a significant site of virus localization or replication. If the hypothesis is that most of this virus’s toxic effect arises from interactions with Hb, documenting viral entry into RBCs would be an important first step.

That said, we do have some idea of where this virus is going. For example, one study examined lung tissue samples from a patient who died of Covid-19 and found results consistent with diffuse alveolar damage (damage to the small air sacs in the lungs where gas exchange occurs) [1]. The same study found that the virus itself localized primarily to the epithelial cells lining those same alveoli. While RBCs appear to have been washed out before the tissue samples were examined (leaving empty blood vessels), the blood vessels themselves, as well as the tissue between the air sacs, showed little to no virus. Overall, the study suggests that the virus, and the resultant damage, are found primarily in the lung alveoli.

The blog post author presumes that the virus does enter RBCs, and that viral “glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is ‘disassociated’ (released).” This spurious claim, for which the blog post author provides no evidence, seems to derive from a misinterpretation of a recent preprint of a paper in ChemRxiv. This pre-print manuscript proposes a possible mechanism for the virus to “attack” (a term they never define) hemoglobin and release the heme from the protein [2]. While the blog post author does not cite this work (or any other work, for that matter), the conclusions and language are similar enough that it seems very likely the scientific paper inspired the blog post.

On a close reading, the ChemRxiv paper is itself seriously flawed, and provides nothing that I or my colleagues consider meaningful evidence of a mechanism by which SARS-CoV-2 could “attack” hemoglobin. I do plan to work on a second piece further discussing the problems with this paper, but for now, here is a summary of that work: the authors claim to provide evidence that certain viral proteins can bind to isolated porphyrin (without the iron and not bound to any protein). They also argue that the virus may somehow force the heme out of the protein, and subsequently the iron out of the heme, to allow this sort of binding. This is all based on rather rudimentary analysis, relying solely on protein sequence similarity and questionable modeling of molecular docking. Notably, the work was entirely performed in silico (via computer models), which is usually an initial screening step that has to be verified with in vitro (experimental, e.g., in a test tube or petri dish) data. The authors themselves state in their abstract that “[t]his paper is only for academic discussion, the correctness needs to be confirmed by other laboratories”. Aside from this introductory disclaimer, the authors do a poor job of qualifying their results and emphasizing the highly preliminary nature of their work. It is easy to see how a reader without a healthy dose of scientific skepticism could overinterpret the results given the strong language used throughout the manuscript.

Nevertheless, the Medium blog post seems to take this questionable work as hard truth and proceeds to extend the conclusion several steps further, claiming that the virus will go right into the heme pocket and replace the intact heme iron, all while the porphyrin remains bound to the protein. Beyond the questionable evidence for virus binding the porphyrin at all, the issue here is that the heme/porphyrin is still in the heme pocket, a space barely large enough for two-atom molecules like oxygen (O2). Despite that, the blog post author seems to believe the virus (which is larger than the entire hemoglobin protein) will be able to enter the pocket, kick out the iron, and bind the porphyrin while leaving the porphyrin and protein otherwise totally intact. To put it charitably, this would be an entirely novel and seemingly impossible sort of chemistry, and there is absolutely no scientific evidence that supports such a possibility. It’s this seemingly impossible interaction that forms the foundation of the blog post’s entire argument, and so the remainder of the conclusions drawn by the blogger simply don’t carry any weight.

The clinical story

From here, using this faulty scientific narrative as a basis, the author creates an equally faulty narrative of the clinical progression of the disease. The failure of the scientific narrative largely invalidates the subsequent clinical narrative, which is almost entirely based on that faulty science. Thus, rather than pick apart the entire clinical model, I’m going to highlight some key points that I want to refute specifically. First, while this narrative is a bit more difficult to follow, I will attempt to summarize it herein.

The blog post suggests (paraphrasing here outside of direct quotes): As the patient’s Hb loses iron, that patient will desaturate (lose oxygen from their hemoglobin). This desaturation has nothing to do with lung dysfunction as “there is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS” and “the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry [oxygen], end of story”. The free iron that has been released overwhelms the lung’s defense mechanisms against this toxic free iron, leading to bilateral lung damage, which is held to be significant by the author because “Pneumonia rarely ever does that [causes damage in both lungs], but COVID-19 does… EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.”

Again, this probably sounds like a compelling, reasonable series of events to a lay person. In reality, it is essentially nonsense built upon a deeply flawed understanding of physiology and pathophysiology. Some key points, and my responses:

Blog post says: Patients desaturate as their hemoglobin loses iron

Reality: Even if the virus were to eject the iron from hemoglobin (which it almost certainly does not), it would not likely result in a measurable desaturation. Saturation is most commonly measured via pulse oximetry (pulseox), which uses light to differentiate Hb with oxygen from Hb without oxygen. Both these forms of Hb, however, have the iron present, and most clinical pulse oximeters only work when these two forms — and only these two forms — of Hb are present [3]. A novel form of Hb with the virus in place of the iron would absorb light very differently from either of these forms, and such a protein (if it could exist) would almost certainly result in incomprehensible pulseox readings, not a desaturation.

Even ignoring these technical aspects, a far more likely explanation for a measured desaturation in Covid-19 patients would be inadequate oxygenation of the blood due to lung disease/damage (which we know is present). Indeed, we know that Covid-19 patients who are oxygenating poorly respond to supplemental oxygen, as the author seems to acknowledge when suggesting oxygen as a therapy. Improvement with more oxygen effectively rules out iron loss as a cause of this desaturation, as providing more oxygen will increase oxygen binding to normal Hb with intact iron but could not put iron back into Hb that had lost it.

Blog post says: Release of iron from Hb is the source of all observed pathology in Covid-19, including bilateral lung damage, which pneumonia “rarely ever” causes.

Reality: There’s simply no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 infection leads to the large-scale release of iron from Hb, or that such release would be sufficient to overwhelm the body’s numerous mechanisms for regulation of free iron. Even if it did, however, I’m unable to find evidence that pure iron overload (in the absence of other pathologies) leads to significant lung damage, much less the bilateral pneumonia-like pattern seen in many Covid-19 patients [4]. In contrast, bilateral lung damage is actually a fairly common manifestation of pneumonia caused by viral infections [5].

Blog post says: “There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with.”

Reality: Both are clearly present. The clinical picture, despite what the author might think, is generally consistent with viral pneumonia, and progression to ARDS has been well-documented. One study in China found that, out of 201 patients with confirmed Covid-19, roughly 42% developed a clinical picture consistent with ARDS [6]. The mortality rate among these patients was over 52%, while there were no deaths among those that did not develop ARDS. The blog post may be somewhat correct about the resultant ARDS being atypical. There is a letter out of Northern Italy suggesting that ARDS arising from Covid-19 may not require or could even be harmed by high-pressure mechanical ventilation [7], but this same letter suggests that intubation and mechanical ventilation without high pressures should be prioritized for patients who are struggling to breathe, not avoided as suggested in the blog post.

Suggested treatments

Finally, and perhaps most troublingly, the author of the blog post, who has no medical background, suggests a number of therapies for their imagined mechanism of this disease.

Treatment 1: “Max oxygen”, or hyperbaric chamber with 100% O2 at multiple atmospheres of pressure

It’s unclear what the author thinks this would achieve. If their model of virus-induced hemoglobin dysfunction via iron loss is true (it isn’t, but if it was), the affected Hb absolutely CANNOT bind oxygen. Providing more oxygen, via a ventilator or a hyperbaric chamber, would not magically put the iron back in Hb. To take a generous interpretation, the author may be suggesting that free iron eventually causes lung damage, which subsequently prevents oxygen from getting into the blood, even though our current understanding is that this damage is in fact caused by the virus and our immune response. Regardless of the source of lung damage, however, intubation and mechanical ventilation remains the standard of care in critically ill patients with hypoxic respiratory failure, as even the report of atypical ARDS from Italy suggests [7].

EDIT, 04/13/2020: A reader, Dr. Merveldt-Guevara, brought to my attention that hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) likely would benefit patients with iron loss from Hb by allowing more oxygen to be dissolved directly in the blood without binding to hemoglobin. She is absolutely correct about this, and I want to thank her for setting me straight. While there remains no compelling reason to suspect such iron loss, HBOT is well-documented to increase the amount of oxygen that reaches the blood, and thus may have therapeutic potential for these patients even if their Hb remains entirely normal. I have reached out to some far more qualified colleagues for their opinions on this, and will update if I hear back.

Treatment 2: Blood transfusion with “normal hemoglobin”

The blog post is correct that a transfusion of donor red blood cells (or whole blood) would temporarily increase the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood. However, beyond the blog post’s unfounded assertions, I can find no case reports or any other data suggesting that profound anemia or loss of oxygen carrying capacity exacerbates the effects of Covid-19 in patients, and so there’s no reason to believe a transfusion of RBCs would result in clinical improvement.

Even if the author were correct, a red blood cell transfusion would likely do more harm than good after a brief initial improvement. For example, we know that some degree of hemolysis (RBC destruction) occurs during storage of blood and after transfusion, eventually leading to release of toxic byproducts such as free heme. Furthermore, if the core premise of the blog post is accepted, the transfused RBCs would also have their Hb attacked by the virus, negating any increase in oxygen carrying capacity and worsening the accumulation of iron in the blood. A transfusion, if we accept the author’s argument about hemoglobin and iron, amounts to throwing logs onto a raging fire, claiming you’re putting the fire out because those logs haven’t burned up yet, and then watching the fire grow bigger as it consumes those logs as well.

Just to clarify, there is some evidence in favor of a plasma transfusion from recovered Covid-19 patients, as the antibodies contained therein can augment the recipient’s immune function.The blog post, however, seems very dismissive of this therapy, suggesting it would be ineffective without a simultaneous transfusion of red blood cells despite the lack of any evidence to support this claim.

Treatment 3: Hydroxychloroquine

The author of the blog post also recommends early treatment with hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), which in their words is “…suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin”. A preface: I am not making a broader claim here about the effectiveness of HCQ in Covid-19, which remains under investigation. But this author’s specific arguments about HCQ do not stand up to scrutiny.

For example, I’m not sure where the author found this “suspected” mechanism of action. The true mechanism of action of HCQ and other quinoline-based anti-malaria drugs has been studied extensively. It is known that these drugs prevent the malaria parasite from sequestering free heme (the result of hemoglobin consumption) in food vacuoles, where the toxic heme molecules are normally converted to relatively harmless, crystalline deposits of hemozoin [8]. Importantly, HCQ does not prevent the release of toxic iron from heme, nor does the drug prevent an interaction with hemoglobin (the protein component of which is still consumed by the parasite). Instead, HCQ disrupts formation of the inert hemozoin crystals, thereby allowing the accumulation of toxic heme (porphyrin and iron together), which causes oxidative damage that ultimately kills the parasite.

Also, the virus is a protein envelope surrounding a length of coding RNA (it’s an RNA virus) and contains literally not a single piece of DNA anywhere, so a DNA binding mechanism would have no relevance here. Even beyond this virus, I cannot find anything suggesting DNA binding is a significant mediator of HCQ’s effects on malaria, autoimmunity, or any other disease state. Its primary effect is thought to occur in lysosomes/food vacuoles, where it prevents acidification as a weak base and may otherwise inhibit hemozoin formation (in malaria) and antigen presentation/immune activation (in autoimmune disease) [9, 10]. As a final thought, HCQ being a weak base means that the author’s statement that it “lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus” is certainly incorrect, as it is a base and thus would prevent lowering of pH (acidification).

Final Thoughts

The above discussion is by no means an exhaustive list of the blog post’s incorrect statements or conclusions. Nonetheless, I hope it has been sufficient to make clear that the blog post, and even the scientific article that likely inspired it, should not be viewed as a source of any meaningful insight into SARS-CoV-2, how it affects patients, or how the virus might be treated. What I still don’t know is why the blog post author, under a pseudonym, chose to present such an incorrect description of this disease and the underlying pathophysiology with such confidence. That they would go so far as to suggest treatments for the disease despite a lack of any medical training, and in virtually the same paragraph condemn “armchair pseudo-physicians” who push incorrect information, is truly mind-boggling. Tragically, whether it arises from genuine malice, unfounded arrogance, or just simple ignorance, this sort of misinformation about a deadly pandemic can genuinely put lives at risk, and it’s up to those of us who work in this field to fight back against it in whatever way we can.

Finally, while I’ve been very critical of this blog post author, I do have to give them credit for making one very insightful comment, right near the end, that I want to single out for praise:

“Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician.”

On this, at least, we can agree.

References Cited:

1. Zhang, H., et al., Histopathologic Changes and SARS-CoV-2 Immunostaining in the Lung of a Patient With COVID-19. Ann Intern Med, 2020.

2. Wenzhong, L. and L. Hualan, COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism. ChemRxiv, 2020.

3. Jubran, A., Pulse oximetry. Crit Care, 2015. 19: p. 272.

4. Ganz, T., Does Pathological Iron Overload Impair the Function of Human Lungs? EBioMedicine, 2017. 20: p. 13–14.

5. Galvan, J.M., O. Rajas, and J. Aspa, Review of Non-Bacterial Infections in Respiratory Medicine: Viral Pneumonia. Arch Bronconeumol, 2015. 51(11): p. 590–7.

6. Wu, C., et al., Risk Factors Associated With Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome and Death in Patients With Coronavirus Disease 2019 Pneumonia in Wuhan, China. JAMA Intern Med, 2020.

7. Gattinoni, L., et al., Covid-19 Does Not Lead to a “Typical” Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome. Am J Respir Crit Care Med, 2020.

8. Coronado, L.M., C.T. Nadovich, and C. Spadafora, Malarial hemozoin: from target to tool. Biochim Biophys Acta, 2014. 1840(6): p. 2032–41.

9. Fox, R.I., Mechanism of action of hydroxychloroquine as an antirheumatic drug. Semin Arthritis Rheum, 1993. 23(2 Suppl 1): p. 82–91.

10. Liu, J., et al., Hydroxychloroquine, a less toxic derivative of chloroquine, is effective in inhibiting SARS-CoV-2 infection in vitro. Cell Discov, 2020. 6: p. 16.


Interesting Lit review article on CV and hemoglobin.

This seems to be the type of madness iam observing everywhere.
People agreeing with your point on antibiotics so you argue with your self, completely missing the point everybody else is making.
And being rude and saying blessings on the end doesn't make it any less rude
Blessings

[One]

This seems to be the type of madness iam observing everywhere.
People agreeing with your point on antibiotics so you argue with your self, completely missing the point everybody else is making.
And being rude and saying blessings on the end doesn't make it any less rude
Blessings

Amusingly it seems to me that people who try and discredit important info on sites like this seem to think that using some contrived "conspiracy" will work best. Presumably because they think that is what appeals to us in their mind?

I wouldn't be as foolish as to suggest that's what is going on here though. All completely innocent no doubt.

[Ernie Nemeth]

But if you are hampered by forward confirmation bias, this all makes sense because it supports the bigger conspiracy of 5G.

Not even a proven drug can have an efficacy if it removes the scare of 5G oxygen uptake interference.

[One]

But if you are hampered by forward confirmation bias, this all makes sense because it supports the bigger conspiracy of 5G.

Not even a proven drug can have an efficacy if it removes the scare of 5G oxygen uptake interference.

Yep, this might be more likely in this case (after just reading the 5g thread). I can forgive that more easily than deliberate sabotage (assuming genuine belief).

I'm on then fence with 5G not knowing enough about it, but could easily be another ship for everybody to board and then sink.

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/zev_dr/status/1288994820858552321?s=20

1288994820858552321




Title and Authors of the Published Paper Entitled:

“COVID-19 Outpatients – Early Risk-Stratified Treatment with
Zinc Plus Low Dose Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin:
A Retrospective Case Series Study”


About The Authors

Dr. Roland Derwand
Based in Munich, Derwand is a medical doctor and life science industry expert with almost 20 years of experience. He currently heads the medical affairs department of a U.S. biotech company in Germany. His engagement and contribution to this study has been private and independent. Before he held various positions in the pharma and biotech industry with national, European and global responsibilities. He holds an M.D. from Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz, Germany, an MBA from the PFH Private University of Applied Sciences in Göttingen, Germany, and he did his doctorate in cardiovascular physiology.

Professor Martin Scholz
Scholz holds a doctorate degree (Ph.D.) from Johann Wolfgang Goethe –University, Frankfurt am Main, Germany and is an adjunct professor for experimental medicine at Heinrich Heine University Düsseldorf. He also serves as managing director of the “Starts- and -Ups Consulting” company. Prior to this, Scholz served as the chief scientific officer on the executive board of LEUKOCARE AG, a biotech company he founded in 2001. Scholz received the title “professor honoris causa” at the Faculty of Medicine Marilia (FAMEMA) in São Paulo, Brasil.

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko
Zelenko graduated from SUNY at Buffalo School of Medicine in 2000. He is Board Certified in Family Medicine and is the medical director at Monsey Family Medical Center.

[Tintin]

As in Germany (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111616-America-s-Frontline-Doctors-Fighting-Back&p=1369618&viewfull=1#post1369618) so now in Spain:

Downloadable from https://seed132.bitchute.com/y0X05pBhTxdS/BawtyuvpN2fO.mp4

1290193773368971264

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/BoSnerdley/status/1290279721561804801?s=20

1290279721561804801


https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1289922976956026880?s=20

1289922976956026880

[greybeard]

Dr. Scott Atlas disputes COVID-19 fear mongering tactics from our health officials
Hoover Institution Stafford University
He is saying there is a zero risk to children Schools should be open.
Also those of low risk of serious reaction to the disease ---Its good if they get the virus --thats how heard immunity comes about.
Thats what gets rid of the virus
States in America that did no go for severe lockdown faired better.

Its a very informed video well worth watching.

Chris




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPRwEW-5-g

[Constance]

Not American..but another front line doctor...

Australian Gastroenterologist Professor Thomas Borody is having success in his hospital with treating COVID patients.

Health Industry Hub | August 5, 2020


Australian triple therapy for COVID-19 cure and prevention

Pharma News: The Centre for Digestive Disease (CDD) Medical Director Professor Thomas Borody says TGA and FDA approved Ivermectin, which he uses regularly in his hospital, has shown positive results for COVID-19 and should considered immediately to fight the pandemic.

MSD’s Ivermectin was discovered in the 1970s and is on the World Health Organisation (WHO) list of essential medicines.

Professor Borody has used the same methodology with the COVID-19 Ivermectin Triple Therapy as he used when he developed the world’s first cure for peptic ulcers saving millions of lives around the globe.

He says this combination of 3 approved “off the shelf” drugs could be the answer to Australia’s COVID-19 crisis.

Professor Borody said “If nothing else, make it available in aged care homes immediately. Our elderly are at the highest risk and this is a very safe option especially when we have nothing else except ventilators.”

“Also, our frontline workers deserve more protection with a preventative medication like this, and as emergency treatment if they test positive.”

“An Ivermectin tablet can cost as little as $2 – which could make it by far the cheapest, safest, and fastest cure for Australians and the Australian economy.”

Professor Borody is an internationally regarded physician with 4 FDA approved drugs on the US and Australian markets, who is famous for developing the triple therapy that cured peptic ulcerssaving more than 18,000 lives just in Australia and millions internationally.

He said Ivermectin has a good safety profile and in fact the WHO says in a report ‘Mass treatment with ivermectin: an underutilised public health strategy’… “It is time to capitalise on the full public health potential of ivermectin” as an anti-parasitic.

The Journal of Antibiotics a 12 June 2020 report on Ivermectin says “Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2.”

Professor Borody says his research has led him to a triple therapy of Ivermectin, zinc and an antibiotic – which are all TGA and FDA approved – which could be the fastest and safest way to stop the Victorian outbreak within 6-8 weeks.

He said he knows of medical professionals already using it as a preventative therapy themselves.

Professor Borody said “When State and Federal governments are saying they will do whatever it takes then I believe this is a potential life-saver right now.”

“These 3 medications are already approved. They do not need pre-clinical or clinical trials nor additional TGA approvals unless the aim is to combine in a single capsule, for example. Patient treatment programs have been done in the US and elsewhere which indicate it can work within 4-6 days.”

Professor Borody has reviewed the key antiviral scientific research literature and identified the combination of 3 drugs that are in chemists right now and can be prescribed by doctors immediately. The tablets can be taken at home as a preventive treatment by high risk individuals, or by those who test positive to minimise need for hospitalisation at the higher curative dose.

The therapy comprises:

Ivermectin – TGA and FDA approved as an anti-parasitic therapy with an established safety profile since the 1970s. Known as the “Wonder Drug” from Japan.
Zinc
Doxycycline – TGA and FDA approved tetracycline antibiotic that fights infections, such as acne, urinary tract infections, intestinal infections, respiratory infections, eye infections, gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, periodontitis (gum disease), and others.
Professor Borody says distribution teams could be deployed in Victoria’s hotspots to treat proven infected patients immediately, and people exposed or at risk could be taking the preventative dose.

Source: Health industry hub (https://www.healthindustryhub.com.au/pharmaceutical-news-trends/australian-triple-therapy-for-covid-19-cure-and-prevention/)

[greybeard]

Make This Go Viral!!!! Nationwide Lockdowns Are not the Solution---Coronavirus Doctors


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVsdtqqTaiM

[Gwin Ru]

OMG I'm Speechless! Unbelievable Mainstream News from Spain - UNREAL (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=SwlkumcRf6w&feature=emb_logo)! 7:20
Aug 19, 2020

https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJx4PKEnyH-m2fry7dbBamVXBZ5oTg_QGQjhT8gw0g=s48-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPn4FsiQP15nudug9FDhluA) Ivor Cummins (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPn4FsiQP15nudug9FDhluA)

I don't know what to say about this mainstream Spanish news item, I'm kinda speechless. This front-line, clearly expert Spanish doctor reveals the reality around the truly massive media madness going on at the moment. He explains the actual reality, and the interviewer is thrown into confusion...! Then a studio journalist is brought in to sort him out - but our doc is solid as a rock - and leaves the henchman for dead! UNREAL. (subtitled)

SwlkumcRf6w
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfrluQEWAAAEUlj?format=png&name=900x900

[Bill Ryan]

OMG I'm Speechless! Unbelievable Mainstream News from Spain - UNREAL (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=SwlkumcRf6w&feature=emb_logo)! 7:20
Aug 19, 2020

https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJx4PKEnyH-m2fry7dbBamVXBZ5oTg_QGQjhT8gw0g=s48-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPn4FsiQP15nudug9FDhluA) Ivor Cummins (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPn4FsiQP15nudug9FDhluA)

I don't know what to say about this mainstream Spanish news item, I'm kinda speechless. This front-line, clearly expert Spanish doctor reveals the reality around the truly massive media madness going on at the moment. He explains the actual reality, and the interviewer is thrown into confusion...! Then a studio journalist is brought in to sort him out - but our doc is solid as a rock - and leaves the henchman for dead! UNREAL. (subtitled)

SwlkumcRf6w
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Hilarious! That was a whole bunch of fun. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
:happy dog:

What's very clear here is that the media have been given questions and agendas to promote — the world over. It's inconvenient when the doctors don't co-operate. :)

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OMG I'm Speechless! Unbelievable Mainstream News from Spain - UNREAL (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=SwlkumcRf6w&feature=emb_logo)! 7:20
Aug 19, 2020

https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJx4PKEnyH-m2fry7dbBamVXBZ5oTg_QGQjhT8gw0g=s48-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPn4FsiQP15nudug9FDhluA) Ivor Cummins (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPn4FsiQP15nudug9FDhluA)

I don't know what to say about this mainstream Spanish news item, I'm kinda speechless. This front-line, clearly expert Spanish doctor reveals the reality around the truly massive media madness going on at the moment. He explains the actual reality, and the interviewer is thrown into confusion...! Then a studio journalist is brought in to sort him out - but our doc is solid as a rock - and leaves the henchman for dead! UNREAL. (subtitled)

SwlkumcRf6w
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfrluQEWAAAEUlj?format=png&name=900x900
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Hilarious! That was a whole bunch of fun. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
:happy dog:

What's very clear here is that the media have been given questions and agendas to promote — the world over. It's inconvenient when the doctors don't co-operate. :)

That doctor was great. Someone got reamed out for picking him as the guest.

Did you catch the male news [propaganda] reader’s words, causing the doctor to respond to the personal attack and insult by saying he, the doctor, was in the hospital signing death certificates (when things were serious)? He, the mouth piece, said “Unfortunately, I did not have the chance to do that.” (That’s close, if not verbatim.) The look on the doctors face spoke volumes when he heard that. But they cut the interview off at the point.

“Unfortunately” really...? Not enough dead people to satisfy the MSM I guess.

Also, prior to that, the mouth piece said that the interview had got off topic and they had lost control.

No, the doctor was not off topic. He was spot on. They just did not like what he was saying and did not want anyone to hear it

No, they never had control so they did not lose control. The doctor controlled that interview from the get go.

That doctor and others like him, from all walks of life, from everywhere and anywhere, have my respect.