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Constance
9th August 2020, 06:08
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Baby Steps
9th August 2020, 09:39
OK so looking into the Biological weapons convention, use of biological agents for warfare is illegal. This includes DEVELOPMENT. Under the umbrella of 'DEVELOPMENT' is chiefly to be found weaponization, which is developing the ability to store, produce, and deploy existing diseases (going back to the good old days of catapulting diseased corpses into besieged buildings), but that word also crucially encompasses the genetic alteration of a natural disease to make it more deadly.
In the case of coronaviruses, these things have evolved to be super transmissible,as they remain in the air, infect the lungs and cause coughing. They tend to be very benign and we know that there are constant waves of various coronaviruses passing through schools etc. The process is far too quick to consider developing a vaccine.
If you were a biological weapons specialist, you would be tempted to weaponize a coronavirus, as the transmissibility is so good.
In order to make it more deadly, you would do the following:
1. Use a virus from another species, so that the human immune system had no immunity
2. Enhance its protein coat, so that it is chemically compatible with human cell walls & receptors
3. Harden the virus so it could 'survive' outside the body for as long as possible.
BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS CONVENTION (https://www.britannica.com/event/Biological-Weapons-Convention)
Biological Weapons Convention (BWC), formally Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on Their Destruction, international treaty that bans the use of biological weapons in war and prohibits all development, production, acquisition, stockpiling, or transfer of such weapons. The convention was signed in London, Moscow, and Washington, D.C., on April 10, 1972, and thereafter was opened for signing by other states. The convention went into force on March 26, 1975, following the submission of 22 national instruments of ratification (such as passage by a national assembly). By 2013, 170 states and Taiwan had signed and ratified the BWC, and 10 states had signed but not ratified it. Sixteen member states of the United Nations had neither signed nor ratified the treaty by that time.
The BWC prohibits countries that have signed the treaty from developing, producing, stockpiling, acquiring, or retaining biological agents or toxins of types and in quantities that have no justification for protective, defensive, or other peaceful purposes. The treaty also bans any equipment or means of delivery that is designed to use biological agents or toxins for hostile purposes or armed conflict. It requires signatories to destroy biological weapons, agents, and production facilities within nine months of the treaty’s entry into force.
Unfortunately, the BWC does not yet contain provisions for verification of members’ compliance, and there has been evidence of significant cheating by some parties since the treaty went into effect. For example, the Soviet Union engaged in a massive clandestine biological weapons program in direct violation of the BWC from the day it signed the treaty in 1972. The illegal program was revealed by scientists formerly involved in the program and finally confirmed by Russia’s first post-Soviet president, Boris Yeltsin, who ordered the termination of all Russian offensive biological weapons programs in 1992.
The lack of a necessarily intrusive inspection and reporting system has left the states who are parties to the treaty with no strong assurance that they can monitor and verify other members’ compliance with the terms of the BWC. Biological weapons programs can be easily concealed and need not require large numbers of personnel or large-scale physical plants. For instance, a clandestine weapons program can be hidden inside a perfectly legal vaccine-production facility or pharmaceutical plant. Weapons laboratories disguised in this way would give off few unique “signatures,” or telltale signs that illicit activity is taking place. Indeed, if “national technical means” (that is, spy satellites and other such systems) are the only methods used to verify BWC compliance and if more-traditional “human intelligence” (i.e., spies and defectors) is insufficient, a massive biological weapons program might take place in a country that has signed the BWC without any physical evidence coming to light. This lack of a verification procedure has led some critics of the BWC to argue that the best deterrent to being attacked with biological weapons is not a treaty at all but rather the recognized ability to retaliate in equal or greater measure.
Proponents of the BWC argue that the treaty provides an international norm for the world community, making it understood by all that biological weapons are illegitimate tools of statecraft or warfare. Therefore, if violations are detected, the international community can be more easily mobilized to pressure the offending regime into giving up the weapons lest it face military, economic, and diplomatic sanctions. The BWC, it is also argued, makes proliferation harder, slower, and more expensive for cheaters. Finally, it is argued that the presence of an international treaty on biological weapons may put pressure on even nonsignatory states to comply with the treaty or at least to restrict their biological weapons programs by creating an international norm against them.
DEFINITION OF A BIOLOGICAL WEAPON (https://www.britannica.com/technology/biological-weapon)
Barry R. Schneider
Former Director, U.S. Air Force Counterproliferation Center, Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama. Author of and contributor to numerous books, including The Gathering Biological Warfare Storm (2004);...
Alternative Title: germ weapon
Biological weapon, also called germ weapon, any of a number of disease-producing agents—such as bacteria, viruses, rickettsiae, fungi, toxins, or other biological agents—that may be utilized as weapons against humans, animals, or plants.
The direct use of infectious agents and poisons against enemy personnel is an ancient practice in warfare. Indeed, in many conflicts, diseases have been responsible for more deaths than all the employed combat arms combined, even when they have not consciously been used as weapons.
Biological weapons, like chemical weapons, radiological weapons, and nuclear weapons, are commonly referred to as weapons of mass destruction, although the term is not truly appropriate in the case of biological armaments. Lethal biological weapons may be capable of causing mass deaths, but they are incapable of mass destruction of infrastructure, buildings, or equipment. Nevertheless, because of the indiscriminate nature of these weapons—as well as the potential for starting widespread pandemics, the difficulty of controlling disease effects, and the simple fear that they inspire—most countries have agreed to ban the entire class.
As of 2013 a total of 180 states and Taiwan had signed the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC) and 170 of those states and Taiwan had signed and ratified the treaty, which was opened for signature in 1972. Under the terms of the BWC, member states are prohibited from using biological weapons in warfare and from developing, testing, producing, stockpiling, or deploying them. However, a number of states have continued to pursue biological warfare capabilities, seeking a cheaper but still deadly strategic weapon rather than following the more difficult and expensive path to nuclear weapons. In addition, the threat that some deranged individual or terrorist organization will manufacture or steal biological weapons is a growing security concern.
SO WHAT IS GAIN OF FUNCTION AND WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT?
I was re-directed to the word Mutation (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Gain+of+function), they appear to mean the same thing, however we know that 'gain of function' means deliberately mutating, or GENETICALLY ENGINEERING a virus
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BUT HOLD ON, THEY BANNED GAIN OF FUNCTION IN THE USA DIDN'T THEY? THIS WAS ON THE GROUNDS OF SAFETY - VERY UNDERSTANDABLE, however they then funded the transfer of that type of research to Wuhan. Dr Fauci was involved in that decision.
Why US outsourced bat virus research to Wuhan (https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/)
US-funded $3.7 million project approved by Trump's Covid-19 guru Dr Anthony Fauci in 2015 after US ban imposed on 'monster-germ' research
By CHRISTINA LIN
APRIL 22, 2020
The US funded research into bat coronaviruses in a lab in Wuhan, China, that is now under scrutiny for possibly being behind the Covid-19 pandemic. Photo: Facebook
The US National Institutes of Health (NIH) funded bat-coronavirus research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China to the tune of US$3.7 million, a recent article in the British newspaper Daily Mail revealed.
Back in October 2014, the US government had placed a federal moratorium on gain-of-function (GOF) research – altering natural pathogens to make them more deadly and infectious – as a result of rising fears about a possible pandemic caused by an accidental or deliberate release of these genetically engineered monster germs.
This was in part due to lab accidents at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in July 2014 that raised questions about biosafety at US high-containment labs.
At that time, the CDC had closed two labs and halted some biological shipments in the wake of several incidents in which highly pathogenic microbes were mishandled by US government laboratories: an accidental shipment of live anthrax, the discovery of forgotten live smallpox samples and a newly revealed incident in which a dangerous influenza strain was accidentally shipped from the CDC to another lab.
A CDC internal report (https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0711-lab-safety.html) described how scientists failed to follow proper procedures to ensure samples were inactivated before they left the lab, and also found “multiple other problems” with operating procedures in the anthrax lab.
Bill Ryan
9th August 2020, 09:50
A very well-written page-turner largely about the bioweapons programs in both the US and Russia. (I've posted this a number of times. It's an excellent book that's pretty alarming to contemplate.)
It's principally about smallpox, and how it's been weaponized (but, we hope, in secure bioweapons labs containment), and to a lesser extent about anthrax. The Russians still have several tons of weaponized smallpox, and maybe other countries too.
"Tons" is literally a billion times overkill.... even a single test tube of the virus could wipe out much of the US population. Smallpox was only eradicated in the open global population. Despite many scientists who lobbied strongly for total extinction of the thing, the bioweapons engineers kept a whole bunch of it for "research purposes". Go figure.
The Demon in the Freezer, by Richard Preston
http://projectavalon.net/The_Demon_in_the_Freezer_(Richard_Preston).pdf
Constance
11th August 2020, 02:56
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Constance
13th August 2020, 00:37
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13th August 2020, 01:04
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onawah
13th August 2020, 04:12
I was diagnosed with mycoplasma, which I had never even heard of, over 15 years ago by a doctor of integrated medicine, who took the trouble to test my blood when he recognized my symptoms.
He said that I had probably received the SV40 polio vaccine when I was a child, which turned out to be the case, and that was the cause of the mycoplasma.
The SV40 was infected with live "stealth" viruses from Rhesus monkeys, and countless victims died from it all over the world.
Some children became psychotic immediately after receiving the vaccine, but in many cases, it took decades before death finally occurred.
They died from polio (under a different name) cancer, lupus, chronic fatigue and other immune disorders, but the SV40 viruses were the common pathogen found in their bodies upon autopsy and were considered to be the cause of death by independent researchers.
In my case, being very sensitive, I knew immediately there was something very wrong with that vaccine, although of course, no one would listen to me.
And so it wasn't until I was in my 50s that I finally discovered what the toxin was, and why I had fibromyalgia.
More and more it seems to me that with the constant assault from so many different toxins we are all under, it's a wonder any of us have survived at all.
I feel as if this topic deserves a thread of its own. I've noticed that there are lots of posts talking about biological warfare but so very few threads are dedicated to, and address this subject in a way that brings it all together. I thought it might be helpful to have all the data and research gathered together in one place so that folk's can shed some light on what might be emerging in 2020 and what might still be relevant today. :flower:
I'll start the ball rolling with this excellent video presentation by Dr. Garth Nicolson titled, Weaponised Mycoplasmas.
Some snippets:
New emerging infections: There is little evidence that the kind of volumes of infections/illnesses we are seeing today such as respiratory diseases, neurodegenerative diseases, fatiguing illnesses, rheumatic diseases, gastrointestinal disorders, neurobehavioural disorders, Genitourinary diseases, immunosuppressive and autoimmune diseases were present 20-25 years ago. My notes - the video is old so it may be more like 30+ years now
The increasingly toxic environment we live in and the purposeful development of new weapons of mass destruction are contributing to these new emerging infections. My notes: These two points may be very familiar to many Avalonians but for readers who are new to all of this, it may be important.
Chronic infections are often misdiagnosed or not even sought, and because of this, infections are either untreated or inappropriately treated.
If patients are diagnosed and treated accordingly, they can recover. If infections are not treated, patients do not recover.
Bacterial, fungal and viral loads of Mycoplasma, Chlamydia, Rickettsia, Brucella, Borrelia, Coxiella are all important sources of morbidity in chronic illnesses along with EBV, HHV6, CMV, Enerovirus, Hepatitis C and Fungi.
Intracellular bacterial infections - when they get inside the cell they can hide from the immune system, which make it very difficult for the immune system to deal with. My notes: There is an excellent video by Bonnie Bassler called "How Bacteria communicate". One wholistic therapist I know calls these bacteria, the "anti-intelligence" because they most often hide in the folds of our intestinal tract. These kinds of infections can cause non-specific symptoms. For example, it was very common for gulf war veterans who suffered from these infections to have cardiovascular issues.
Lyme disease, Autism, Fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, ALS - Mycoplasmas are shown to be a common denominator through all of these issues - it is not easy to test for these types of organisms.
These infections were discovered during the first gulf war. Nearly half of the veterans around the world suffering from these infections had received vaccines. The infections were also passed on to the families. The symptoms were delayed by up to 6 months to a year after returning.
The Iraq government had a biological arms program. Some of these biological agents were deployed on the front lines. Many of these came from United States arsenals supplied to the Iraqi's during the Iran/Iraq war to use against the Iranians.
Garth has testified to congress six times that the main source of these infections were in the contaminants of vaccines. Most of the military deployed were given anywhere between 20 - 30 vaccines, generally between a two and three day period during deployment.
Literally ten's of thousands of ammunition units were blown up by US army engineering units after the war at the Kamisiyah ammunition depot in March 1991. Every person in those army units came down with illness within months after that. The evidence for biological weapons was filmed by the engineers in the depots.
Four different epidemiological studies evidenced that the vaccines did cause these infections. One study that came out of the Kansas state department of epidemiology found that 34% of the deployed forces of Kansas who had received multiple vaccines had GWI (Gulf War Illness) signs/symptoms, 12% who were non-deployed/vaccinated came down with it as well and a low 4% of those who were non-deployed/non-vaccinated.
Garth published a paper on the High frequency of Mycoplasmic infections in gulf war veterans and civilians with ALS. 100% of those tested (the British, American, Canadians and Australians) all had the Mycoplasmal infections.
80% of all civilians who suffer from ALS are suffering from systemic Mycoplasma infections. In conjunction with this, Enteroviruses are also found in almost all cases.
The United states has a patent on pathogenic mycoplasma: issued in Sept 1993 to inventor Shyh-Ching Lo (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/shyh-ching-lo) (Look for his name in connection with Judy Mitkovits) Shyh-Ching Lo came from communist China and he defected to the United States and became a scientist for the USA Biological Warfare Progam.
Lo denies that Mycoplasma was involved in gulf war veteran patients, even though Garth says that he knows that 40-50% of these patients had these infections - confirmed in 4 different laboratories.
The reason that these intracellular infections are so insidious are: 1. When they get inside the cell, they damage the Mitochondria so that peoples Mitochondria are operating at 40% capacity, 2. They steal metabolites from the cell, and then 3. When they exit the cell, they take a little piece of the hosts cell membrane with them (how lovely of them! my emphasis) and because of this, they have the capacity to set up an autoimmune response from the host. They also mimick host antigens; it is one of the ploys they use to escape the hosts immune system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT25HhAVhhU
Dr. Garth Nicolson - Weaponized Mycoplasmas
Constance
13th August 2020, 06:25
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Sunny-side-up
13th August 2020, 10:12
Thank you Constance for this OP.
Thank you onawah for your contribution, I feel for you.
In many ways now this is a rotten world, we are far, far from Eden.
I have all the symptoms and more, I keep a stiff upper lip and joke about things, things like 'I must stop playing all in wrestling while I'm asleep' I saw that because that is how I wake up feeling. Refreshed condition when I wake, well I can't remember when :(
I'm 61 this Aug and for the last 15 years or so have joked I feel more like 160.
onawah
13th August 2020, 15:41
It's not exactly on topic, but it's eerily ironic that just now, before turning on my computer and seeing Constance's comment, my doorbell rang and it was a postal carrier delivering a certified letter to me from my doctor's medical clinic essentially "firing me" as their patient due to my "noncompliance to medical care or treatment recommendations prescribed" by my doctor.
He has been my doctor for a few years, but I only saw him once a year as required by Medicare in order to continue being eligible for Medicare benefits, and I explained that to him when he accepted me as his patient.
(He had just moved to town and needed new patients.)
So basically once a year I had my temperature taken, my heartbeat listened to, etc., he would ask how I was and it would all be done in about 15 minutes, which was really all I wanted or expected.
Two years ago I requested that they stop taking my blood since I hate needles and the only prescriptions I was getting was for a thyroid medication and a hormonal cream, and that hadn't changed in years.
As sensitive as I am, I figured I would know if an adjustment was needed.
So he agreed to that until our last "appointment" a few weeks ago, which was by telephone, at which time he became hysterical and began shouting when I told him that I don't wear a mask unless I have to because I think it does more harm than good and the only places I go anymore anyway are to the health food store and the grocery store.
He said that he hoped he was never in the grocery store at the same time I was and I advised him that the only people who consistently wear masks at our local grocer are the employees, which apparently had escaped his notice.
He requested at that time that I find another doctor, and said that he would no longer honor my request not to have blood work done, so if I wanted my prescriptions renewed, I would have to go in to have blood drawn.
It turned out there was another doctor at that clinic who was accepting new patients, so I reassigned myself to him, and went in for the blood work.
Due to my squeamishness, I wasn't watching, but realized afterward that they had taken 4 vials of blood, which left me a bit weak and dizzy, and it was because of that that I hurt my leg the next day while working in the garden and have not been feeling right since.
Prior to that, at last year's appointment when I had to see him in person, he recommended three unnecessary and invasive procedures which I refused.
One was that procedure where they insert a tiny camera into your colon to look around, which I know to be dangerous and since I am as regular as clockwork and have no digestive issues at all, I could only conclude that he wanted to turn me into a cash cow for the clinic.
The look that the nurse exchanged with me led me to believe that she agreed.
He advised me that thenceforth I would be considered a "noncompliant" patient.
Is it any wonder that Americans have lost faith in the allopathic medical community, as we grow sicker and they continue to charge more and more for their services?
The only kind of doctor I would trust at all at this point is a Naturopath or an Osteopath, but they aren't covered by Medicare for the most part, and I couldn't afford their fees.
If I was of a litigious bent, I would take the clinic to court, but I just don't need the grief.
I was diagnosed with mycoplasma, which I had never even heard of, over 15 years ago by a doctor of integrated medicine, who took the trouble to test my blood when he recognized my symptoms.
He said that I had probably received the SV40 polio vaccine when I was a child, which turned out to be the case, and that was the cause of the mycoplasma.
The SV40 was infected with live "stealth" viruses from Rhesus monkeys, and countless victims died from it all over the world.
Some children became psychotic immediately after receiving the vaccine, but in many cases, it took decades before death finally occurred.
They died from polio (under a different name) cancer, lupus, chronic fatigue and other immune disorders, but the SV40 viruses were the common pathogen found in their bodies upon autopsy and were considered to be the cause of death by independent researchers.
In my case, being very sensitive, I knew immediately there was something very wrong with that vaccine, although of course, no one would listen to me.
And so it wasn't until I was in my 50s that I finally discovered what the toxin was, and why I had fibromyalgia.
More and more it seems to me that with the constant assault from so many different toxins we are all under, it's a wonder any of us have survived at all.
Wow! I'm really grateful for you sharing your story and that you are still here to tell the story :flower::flower::bearhug:
Thank god for that switched on doctor. It does make me wonder how many people are walking around with these symptoms, desperate to understand the basis of their illnesses, however going into standard care, looking for answers and finding none.
It was really only brought to my attention about 10 years ago the extent of the problem with mycoplasmas.
https://rain-tree.com/myco.htm
Constance
24th August 2020, 00:17
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Kryztian
24th August 2020, 04:19
When people ask me if I believe Corona virus is natural or man made, I say that there is no way to know but sure, however, the U.S.A. has a biological warfare that is so immense, we must have man made pathogens out there causing pandemics. I usually recommend they watch this episode of "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura." about Plum Island, just one of the many facilities operated by the U.S. gov't to store, study, experiment and tamper with viruses, bacteria and toxic substances.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4j660d
onawah
24th August 2020, 04:53
I find it baffling that most people never seem to consider what the cumulative impact might be of the many toxins we are continually being exposed to, and how vulnerable they make us to each new threat to our health that comes along.
And then they imagine that somehow beating the latest threat is going to make it all OK. :facepalm:
Just goes to show how effective the elite's program to dumb us all down really is. :sad:
Constance
7th September 2020, 23:45
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18th March 2021, 22:31
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DaveToo
13th October 2021, 04:37
A recent exchange occurred in another thread between ThePythonicCow myself and Bill about bioweapons. Bill wisely asked us to 'get back to topic'.
And so I would like to continue our discussion here in a thread that is much more appropriate.
Below is the exchange that took place:
For me it all comes down to whether we have:
- a virus
- no virus
- a bio-weapon
I make a distinction between virus and bio-weapon because I consider a virus as
something natural (if it exists) and a bio-weapon as something synthesized and
thus, unnatural.
As of today, I still cannot take a position between these three possibilities.
I have heard convincing arguments for each of them.
I'd describe a bio-weapon as a biological toxin that is intentionally harmful as used, whether or not it was found in nature or formulated in a lab...
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Do you know of any bio-weapons that are found in nature that are transmissible?
Do you know of any bio-weapons that are found in nature that are transmissible?
No fair - who said "transmissable" ? :bigsmile:
In any case, words have meaning, independent of whether anything exists that fits that meaning.
All that not withstanding, perhaps monkeypox, marburg, or ebola meets your criteria.
Do you know of any bio-weapons that are found in nature that are transmissible?Well, all viruses and bacteria are 'transmissable'. Or else they would just die out and cease to exist.
But it just depends how. Ebola and Marburg (in their 'natural' state) can be transmitted to others, but only through direct contact with bodily fluids, etc. They're not airborne, so that means they can be fairly easily contained through strict isolation, awful though they both are.
For a bioweapon to be effective (natural or enhanced), it really has to spread easily, and also spread quickly before it kills the host. So "ideally", a bioweapon has to be transmissable maybe even before the host knows they have it.
:focus:
In my first post above I really should have said:
"Do you know of any bio-weapons that are found in nature that are highly transmissible by air?"
So perhaps we can continue the discussion here and see where it leads. :)
ThePythonicCow
13th October 2021, 05:06
All that not withstanding, perhaps monkeypox, marburg, or ebola meets your criteria.
In my first post above I really should have said:
"Do you know of any bio-weapons that are found in nature that are highly transmissible by air?"
I don't know off hand whether monkeypox, marburg, or ebola meets your criteria.
Is there some reason I should look into that further?
Is there some explanation why the phrase "bio-weapon" has some implicit defining constraint of being "highly transmissible by air" if it's a virus?
The phrase "bio-weapon" to me means something that is biological and weaponized. Whether or not particular chemical, bacterial or viral examples, with particular properties of transmission, are known to exist does not change that meaning of that phrase.
DaveToo
13th October 2021, 05:59
All that not withstanding, perhaps monkeypox, marburg, or ebola meets your criteria.
In my first post above I really should have said:
"Do you know of any bio-weapons that are found in nature that are highly transmissible by air?"
I don't know off hand whether monkeypox, marburg, or ebola meets your criteria.
Is there some reason I should look into that further?
Is there some explanation why the phrase "bio-weapon" has some implicit defining constraint of being "highly transmissible by air" if it's a virus?
The phrase "bio-weapon" to me means something that is biological and weaponized. Whether or not particular chemical, bacterial or viral examples, with particular properties of transmission, are known to exist does not change that meaning of that phrase.
I first heard about Dr. Li-Meng Yan more than a year ago when she first surfaced in the U.S.
I listened to her story but wasn't convinced entirely about all her claims.
She has recently done some more interviews that I watched and listened to.
I am open to her position as possibly being the closest we have to the truth (why not?).
But there are many conflicting ideologies that one has to contend with in order to take a firm position on this.
I will quote myself from above now:
"For me it all comes down to whether we have:
- a virus
- no virus
- a bio-weapon "
If one takes the position that we have a virus here (SAR-CoV2) how is it possible
to have a natural virus with such a mixed/complicated structure, spontaneously
appearing at a wet food market that quickly spreads around the entire world in a matter of weeks?
That really stretches credulity. I am not prepared to accept that.
Then you have the camp that says there is no virus. We are seeing exosomes. Nothing is spreading
around the world at all. It is possible, but no one has yet been able to explain to me how we see
people around the world otherwise healthy, in their 20's-60's suddenly become ill with severe
Covid-like symptoms and die within a couple of weeks with no comorbidities.
Until someone can explain these deaths I am not prepared to go all the way with the exosome/terrain theory.
And finally you have the bioweapon camp.
I mentioned above "highly transmissible by air" because I was thinking in terms of SARS-CoV2.
The crazy mixed configuration of the structure certainly lends itself nicely to a synthesized bioweapon.
BUT.... and this is the big but that I have.
1. How was China able to contain and virtually eliminate it within a month or so and the rest of the world
still struggles with it?
2. Why is this bioweapon so impotent? It was billed as a highly contagious and deadly virus. In reality
it's far from deadly.
The WHO likes to boast about the high death count of close to 5 million deaths.
But does the WHO tell us the death stats of TB, or the flu, or pneumonia etc. as cumulative over two years?
No. They give yearly death stats!
The true death stats for Covid-19 so far are:
World Covid deaths 2020 1,880,710
World Covid deaths 2021 3,001,379
and next year the death stats need to start at 0 once again, just as they do for all other diseases.
And of course we know that the 2020 and 2021 death stats are highly inflated due to the
mislabeling of many deaths a Covid-19 deaths when they had other causes.
Dr. Li-Meng Yan's position is that we have a bioweapon here, that was deliberately released by China
to inflict as much damage as possible to the rest of the world.
This goes counter to most people's bioweapon theory of the U.S. being the one mainly in charge.
I am trying to weigh her position and see if it makes sense.
ThePythonicCow
13th October 2021, 19:04
We are not on the same wave length, Dave Too. The miscommunications between us are overwhelming any potential usefulness of this discussion that I can discern.
Over and out.
DaveToo
13th October 2021, 19:31
"BUT.... and this is the big but that I have.
1. How was China able to contain and virtually eliminate it within a month or so and the rest of the world
still struggles with it?"
One thing I forgot to mention in my post above was Dr. Yan's statement that China used/uses HCQ to treat those infected. If that's true, it could certainly explain China's alleged success in defeating the disease.
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