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Skeptix

13th January 2011, 20:51

Hey everyone.

Just stopping by to share this article, pretty interesting thats for sure. Seems i am still a Pisces tho!

Take care.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/

Fractalius

13th January 2011, 21:14

Arghhh screams running from thread,
"My eyes my eyes! Its lies, its lies!"

Don't ask me why though sorry. This is just an intuitive response :p

Banshee

13th January 2011, 21:22

..........

Steven

13th January 2011, 21:34

That is very old news. It's is known by astronomers since a long time that astrology is about one month off. Even the time the solar system 'stays' in any given constelation isn't even, while the astrology signs are.

Astrology is using constellation position of our solar system thousand of years old.

According to astrology, I am a gemini, but the day I was born in 1969, 19th june, our solar system was passing in Taurus. So, it makes me a Taurus :) but still, the time our solar system stayed in Taurus is not even one month!

I read an articles in a canadian newspaper about this at least 10 years ago.

Namaste, Steven

9eagle9

13th January 2011, 22:21

Oh it knocked me off the Aries/Pisces cusp and I'm just a Pisces now. I need my fire back! Also explains why my ex didn't behave like a Scorpio, he wasn't. No wonder we didn't get along; he was really a Libra.

Swami

13th January 2011, 22:31

I am renewed into Ophiuchus...:cool:

KosmicKat

14th January 2011, 00:04

The precession of the equinoxes has been recognized in western astronomy as a problem for a long time. However, Vedic astronomy compensates for this effect (and I have found it to be quite surprising with regard to some of the insights offered).

9eagle9

14th January 2011, 01:14

I am renewed into Ophiuchus...:cool:

So is my daughter. Tell me what to expect. Its bad enough she's a teenager I don't need any strange planetary influences flung into the teen hormonal brew. How do we pronounce that anyway?

AlkaMyst

16th January 2011, 20:40

Hello Everyone,

I don't know if anybody has posted this or is even aware of this, I searched before posting and didn't see anything of this nature.....if there's another thread regarding this then (Mods Please Merge).

Well guys, here's what's making a huge bus on the internet at the moment.....there's a "NEW ZODIAC SIGN" that has been discovered and now if you were born between Nov. 29 and Dec. 17, brace yourself. You're now something you've probably never heard of before: an Ophiuchus (picture a guy in a toga wrestling a snake).

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_28u6WdR_ZEY/TTAFfvW7H6I/AAAAAAAACWs/Pep3pvnHR5g/s400/13th-sign.jpg

WHAT????........"a guy in a toga wrestling a snake", are you kidding me? This is just amazing!

Here's how the new Zodiac brakes down.....I know some of you will be shocked as I was, I went from Cancer to Gemini. Please comment on how your sign changed if it did at all!

Capricorn | Jan. 20-Feb. 16

Aquarius | Feb. 16-March 11

Pisces | March 11-April 18

Aries | April 18-May 13

Taurus | May 13-June 21

Gemini | June 21-July 20

Cancer | July 20-Aug. 10

Leo | Aug. 10-Sept. 16

Virgo | Sept. 16-Oct. 30

Libra | Oct. 30-Nov. 23

Scorpio | Nov. 23-29

Ophiuchus | Nov. 29-Dec. 17

Sagittarius | Dec. 17-Jan. 20

Original Source (http://www.thesunnews.com/2011/01/16/1923507/whats-your-sign-you-probably-dont.html)

CHARLESTON -- If someone asked your zodiac "sign" last night, and you thought you'd made a love connection, forget it. It was probably all wrong.

Thousands of South Carolinians this week are discovering they may have gone to bed as a Gemini or Leo, only to wake up as a Taurus or a Cancer.

And if you were born between Nov. 29 and Dec. 17, brace yourself. You're now something you've probably never heard of before: an Ophiuchus (picture a guy in a toga wrestling a snake).

A re-thinking of the astrological signs spread across the Internet this week after a Minneapolis astronomy professor said the zodiac as we know it is out of whack.

Parke Kunkle said in a newspaper story the evolution of the Earth's wobbly orbit means we're no longer aligned in the same position under the stars as when the sign table was conceived eons ago.

For example, instead of the sun "being in Capricorn" for the 30 days or so we'd previously thought, it might actually be in Sagittarius, etc., across the calendar. In some cases, the dates are nearly a month off.

By correlation, the days that each zodiac sign is active would have been lengthened, or compacted, to make room for Ophiuchus, the 13th symbol.

North Charleston psychic Cynthia Armstrong said she didn't think the new star-sign lineup would be readily accepted locally, given the strong ties most people possess to the sign they were born under.

"Your sign, it's a label, it's personal and it's you," she said in her office off Ashley Phosphate Road. "To change, it's a little upsetting." At least 31 percent of Americans believe in astrology, a recent Harris Poll said.

Armstrong was the only one of about six local spiritualists who could meet for a face-to-face interview Friday about the zodiac. Others said their schedules were too busy or that they were out of town, while one said she didn't allow her photograph to be taken because a camera would steal her "energy."

Kunkle readily admits there is nothing ground-breaking in what he said. The Minneapolis Community and Technical College teacher told the media this week his assertion is based on "2,000-year-old information" that astronomers have known about but never bothered to fixate on.

Dr. Jon Hakkila, chairman of the Department of Physics and Astronomy at the College of Charleston, agreed. "There is nothing new here in our understanding of how the heavens work," he said. "This is sensational, rather than new."

At least three points are at play, Hakkila said. First, is "the makeup of the zodiac is and always has been somewhat arbitrary because the definitions and boundaries of constellations have changed many times over the centuries," he said. Also, the sun's path through the constellations has gradually shifted, and the definition of the zodiac actually allows for a wider range of constellations "than just these 12 or 13."

Ophiuchus reportedly was kicked out of the zodiac lineup long ago because the ancient Babylonians felt more comfortable with 12 star signs.

While some astrologers say there's nothing in this week's report that warrants changing horoscopes, Armstrong predicts Charleston should see better times in 2011 than it did in 2010 for both men and women, no matter how the stars align. Especially on the jobs front, she said.

But to tell you the truth it really doesn't surprise me at all. If one understand what's happening to the planet right now then they would understand that this was coming as the North Pole continues to shift towards Russia.....OH What? you didn't know? Read Here (http://www.batangastoday.com/tampa-international-airport-runway-temporary-closed-as-north-magnetic-pole-shifts-video/8499/) and watch video below!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3mWO0ePsTk&feature=player_embedded

PS
Times are certainly changing and this is the most exciting time to be alive!

Peace, Love and Blessings to All,
AlkaMyst

TigaHawk

16th January 2011, 20:55

mmmm

Aparently im a Libra.

I match the scorpio personality perfectly.

I am having doubts about this change?

Zook

16th January 2011, 20:59

xm15e2

16th January 2011, 21:01

I guess I am a Ophiuchus now

peg226

16th January 2011, 21:03

Nothing changes - The west peoples (Western Astrology) go by Tropical Zodiac while The East go by Sidereal Zodiac.

AlkaMyst

16th January 2011, 21:12

zook

ps: Mom's an Ophiuchus?? I can just about hear the pots flying off the fridge!

ROFLMAO........:lol:

peg226

Nothing changes - The west peoples (Western Astrology) go by Tropical Zodiac while The East go by Sidereal Zodiac.

Thanks for the info.......good to know!!! Can you please refer me to this source?

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Teakai

16th January 2011, 21:15

Hi Alkamyst - that sign was always there between Scorpio and Saggitarius. I wish I could remember where it was mentioned before.
I don't know why it was ignored in the zodiac.

I'll try and find the information again.

AlkaMyst

16th January 2011, 21:19

lilac

16th January 2011, 21:47

Discovery of 13th Animal Proves You May Not Be a Tiger Any More

Published by Eric Francis at 10:46 am under Daily Astrology |
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Reprinted from the New York Times Magazine

The Mouse represents the controversial new 13th sign of the Chinese Zodic. This has some Tigers worried, but Dragons don't seem to care.

All your life you thought you were born the Chinese Year of the Tiger — suggesting you’re charming, well liked, not seeking money or power, and craving approval from your family. But if you were born between March 29 and April 1 1974, you were actually born during the year of the Mouse.

The discovery of the 13th animal, the Mouse, has been suspected for a long time. But last week, astronomers challenged the 5,000 year old Chinese zodiac, saying that the years and the dates of the signs are all wrong. “We see the droppings everywhere,” said Kark Punkle.

Controversial -- the Year of the Mouse is speread all over the place. And worldwide, fans of the Chinese Zodiak are freaking out that they may not be a Rat, a Dragon or a Cock

“Its not really a year,” said Punkle, who made the discovery. “It’s more like four days, at least in 1974. But still, there is a Mouse out there, and it influences you.” If you’re a Mouse, he says, you’re more likely to go scavenging, you’ll want to avoid traps, and you generally come out only at night. You will dislike Rats, and avoid owls.

“The Mouse was revered by the ancient Chinese. Now, astrology is finally buggered.”

The Chinese zodiac is based on the 12 animals who visited Buddha when he was sitting under a tree, or something. However, with all the fuss and chatter, nobody noticed that there was a 13th animal, a Mouse. Based on this discovery, astronomers have rewritten the dates of the Chinese zodiac. In a letter to Chinese President Hu Jintao, astronomers wrote, “We regret to inform you that the Chinese zodiac is not accurate. We have discovered an factor of which you need to be aware. We trust that you will put this in China Google so that everyone finds out.”

The Year of the Mouse includes:

Dec. 31, 1934-Jan. 1, 1935
May 14-17, 1944, in the garage
March 4-9, 1957
September 14-16, 1961
Aug. 7, 1962 from 3:31 pm to 3:45 pm
July 25-26, 1964, in the wood shed
March 29-April 1, 1974
June 21, 2001, in the kitchen
and Today

Astronomers note that the Mouse is not applicable everywhere all the time. Sometimes it’s only in the garage, and other times in the kitchen. Other times it seems like the closet, but you cannot quite tell.

Predictably, followers of the Chinese Zodiac had mixed reactions.

“I like being a Cock,” said Jeremy Wallace of Tulsa. “Nobody is gonna tell me I’m a Mouse. That’s an insult.” He said he refuses to have his Chinese zodiac sign tattoo removed.

“This is distressing,” said Marjorie Franklin, who usually reads astrology websites from midnight till she falls asleep at about 3:30 am each night. “You cannot just tell me I’m not a Rabbit any more. I don’t know who I am. Where am I?”

But others responded more favorably. “I never really felt like much of an Ox,” said Milton Molonsky, who was born during a brief 14 minute Year of the Mouse in 1962. “I definitely feel like more of a Mouse.”

His wife, Mrs. Molonsky, agreed. “Yes, he’s pretty Mousy most of the time,” she said.

Not Worried -- Sandra Bullock says she's still a Dragon. Can't you tell?

“I don’t really care,” said actress Sandra Bullock, who was born during a Year of the Pink Mouse that took place during 1964, the Year of the Green Dragon. “Dragons don’t really exist. I have nothing to worry about.”

“This is ridiculous,” said Lou Ann White, author of The Gnu Zodiac, which blends Chinese and Western astrology and Szechuan cuisine. “There is no Western sign corresponding to the Mouse. Well, okay, maybe Virgo,” she added.

Prof. Chong Chee Wi of Brown University’s Department of Comparative Chinese Things said that there is no evidence in the ancient literature that Buddha was visited by a Mouse. “This is speculative. Those damned astronomers always have it in for China,” he said.

Punkle and other scientists also believe that with the Mouse there is a new element in Chinese philosophy — string. “This is the basis of String Theory,” he said, from his observatory at the Minneapolis Ladies’ Astronomical Reading Society last night, trying to figure out where the scratching in the wall is coming from.

Punkle said that he and his colleagues were also close to announcing the discovery of an 81st Tarot card, The Housekeeper, as well as a seventh chess piece, the Squire.

HURRITT ENYETO

16th January 2011, 22:01

Apparently i am a Gemini Not a Cancer by 1 day.
Well i am making it official here: I renounce my implied Geminisation (I made a new word,well they made a new star-sign) and i am officially keeping my original Cancerian roots :) Otherwise ill have to change my entire personality to match Gemini hehe :)

Hurritt

AlkaMyst

16th January 2011, 22:04

Apparently i am a Gemini Not a Cancer by 1 day.
Well i am making it official here: I renounce my implied Geminisation (I made a new word,well they made a new star-sign) and i am officially keeping my original Cancerian roots Otherwise ill have to change my entire personality to match Gemini hehe

That goes for me too! :)

Gajanana

16th January 2011, 22:13

this is all getting very pythonesque.... :cool:

Inelia

16th January 2011, 22:54

I'm sure someone has already mentioned this, but this constellation is part of another astrological system, not the western one. It's just a huge confusion.... NOT THE POINT. You see, nothing gets to the media big time without consent, and the media is full of this story. Look at the picture! A man holding a snake/dragon.... hello??

witchy1

17th January 2011, 00:18

Hi all, I read about it here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_(constellation)
Mythology
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f0/Ophiuchusurania.jpg/300px-Ophiuchusurania.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ophiuchusurania.jpg) http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ophiuchusurania.jpg)
Ophiuchus holding the serpent, Serpens, as depicted in rania's Mirror (http://www.ianridpath.com/atlases/urania.htm), a set of constellation cards published in London c.1825. Above the tail of the serpent is the now-obsolete constellation Taurus Poniatovii (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Poniatovii) while below it is Scutum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scutum).

According to Roman era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_era) mythography,[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_(constellation)#cite_note-7) the figure represents the healer Asclepius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asclepius), who learned the secrets of keeping death at bay after observing one serpent bringing another healing herbs. To prevent the entire human race from becoming immortal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortality) under Asclepius' care, Zeus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus) killed him with a bolt of lightning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning), but later placed his image in the heavens to honor his good works.
There is no evidence of the constellation preceding the Roman era. In Babylonian astronomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_astronomy), a "Sitting Gods" constellation seems to have been located in the general area of Ophiuchus. Gavin White proposes that Ophiuchus may in fact be remotely descended from the Babylonian constellation, representing Nirah, a Babylonian serpent-god who was sometimes depicted with his upper half human but serpents for legs, perhaps identical with the constellation of Babylonian astronomy.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_(constellation)#cite_note-8)

firstlook

17th January 2011, 00:33

I am a Ophiuchus now/also.? I dont know alot about astrology charts and signs, so maybe this is a good opportunity to look into it. Thanks for all the posts. Very interesting in light of all the unknown cosmic influence I want to learn about.

Peace :)

Teakai

17th January 2011, 03:52

Thank you Teakai....I would really appreciate that!

I've been hunting for it Alkamyst, but can't find the one I was thinking of, but this one explains it well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTW8o5XSOpk&feature=related

Sidney

17th January 2011, 04:16

apparently i went from a Leo to Cancer. NO THANKS....Once a Leo always a Leo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ROAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :cool::cool:

AlkaMyst

17th January 2011, 17:27

I've been hunting for it Alkamyst, but can't find the one I was thinking of, but this one explains it well:

Thank you Teakai, this has taken my research on a new direction and now I want to know everything about this :)

Much appreciate it!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Gone002

17th January 2011, 18:35

I don't need a rock in space to tell me my fate, nor do any of you.

3optic

17th January 2011, 18:43

I've been hunting for it Alkamyst, but can't find the one I was thinking of, but this one explains it well:

Thanks Teakai. Laughed at this part of the video though:

The unluckiest number according to numerology

LOL! It is? The History channel can always be counted on for slip shod standards and misinformation.

Helpful article I found by Teresa Aira:
The number thirteen has a long tradition of being unlucky. However, in occult circles, the number 13 has its own significance. The definition of occult when used as an adjective is: of or pertaining to magic, astrology, or any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies.

The definition is quite broad and encompasses many beliefs and is not limited to popular conception that the occult equals Satanism. Perhaps the most famous occultist of all time was Aleister Crowley who believed he was the Beast 666 from the book of Revelations chapter 13. (er.. maybe a stretch. He called himself the Beast 666)

Superstition follows the number thirteen across time and throughout cultures; however, it has sacred meanings, as well. And like superstitions, the number thirteen's significance is found in many places throughout history. For instance:

The lunar calendar, favored by many spiritual belief systems, is sacred and contains thirteen lunar cycles with a moon that moves thirteen degrees across the heavens each day. The Tarot Deck contains thirteen cards of each suit in the minor arcana. The Death card is numbered 13. Like many representations of thirteen, it represents the end of one thing, only to lead to a new beginning. The human body has thirteen major joints. In the ancient runic alphabet, the thirteenth rune symbolized the end of a cycle and the new beginning that followed. Witches covens have thirteen members. The final step on the ladder before Egyptians souls reached to their eternal rest is the number thirteen.

While it seems this would be bad luck, they saw it as the step that led them into their immortal afterlife. The Aztec religious calendar centered on the number thirteen, though their regular calendar was based on a 365-day year with 18 months. The same day would fall concurrently on both calendars every 52 years - a multiple of thirteen. Paganism sees the number thirteen as a time of transition and in Celtic beliefs was considered the "coming of age" for boys. Old Celtic beliefs say that the number thirteen is sacred as it represents the one joining the Goddess, represented by the number three. Numerology puts significance on the number thirteen when the equation 1+3=4 is considered, four being representational of the circle of life.

While modern superstitions place negative meanings on the number thirteen, in older belief systems, now considered to be linked to the occult, 13 is a number of transition and change. One ending becomes a beginning, continuing the sacred cycle of life.

mrmalco

17th January 2011, 19:36

About 20 years ago when I got the hang of the difference between the 'real' sky and the ephemeris readings I asked a reasonably well-known astrologer who lives nearby if she could explain why astrology doesn't track the celestial motion continuously with the precession of the equinoxes? She looked a bit blank and came back to me a few days later saying it was 'very complicated' and she didn't know how to explain it. The truth is that the rising sun at the spring equinox hasn't actually had the Aries constellation behind it for a very long time.

Astrology need some other updating too. Trines and Squares are considered important dynamic aspects of people's charts. That's fair enough. A trine, projected on to a 12 point circle denoting the 12-note chromatic scale will give the notes of an 'augmented' chord. That's a musical harmony that's unresolved. So - in astrology it's understandable that a trine is a dynamic aspect of a chart. Same with the four points of a square, which in a similar 12-point scale will give a diminished chord. Which is also unresolved. However the 3-4-5 triangle relationship in the circular horoscope is ignored. This isn't just a detail. The 'Music of the Spheres' is more than just a poetic metaphor. In music the 3-4-5 relationship (deployed any which-way in the 12-point chromatic circle) always gives the harmonic triads, major and minor. It never produces any other chord except perfect triadic harmony. This means that it is a stable, already resolved feature. In number theory the 3-4-5 triangle is the first Pythagorean triad, in geometry its the whole number basis from which the whole of trigonometry was derived (so that's everything from architectural construction to mechanical engineering to space telemetry). It's an axiom in the classic Liberal Arts that they are all facets of one self-comprehending cosmos. Of the four arts known as the Quadrivium (Number, Geometry, Harmony and Astrosophy/Astronomy) only the latter art has not addressed the crucial harmonic stability of this triangular form.

This is a further topic that I've discussed with a number of astrologers and they've taken the point and agreed but said that it's 'a lot of work' to reconceive people's charts to take account of underlying stable aspects of the kind implied in the harmonic relationships.

Anybody interested in looking further into this could even get my book 'Patterns of Eternity' (Floris Publrs, 2008) where I go into this at more depth. Excuse the plug but it's relevant.

kesom

17th January 2011, 19:45

i was born may 12th '78 so i am now an aries :confused:

my dad organised astronomy clubs when i was a kid so ive always been told that the signs are wrong for a lot of people and there was a show spread over 3 nights on bbc2 here in the uk last week called Astronomy Live,their presenter/physicist mentioned in that about this too,well he said astrology was a load of rubbish cause of this :nono:

off to have a look at arian (that just sounds wrong) traits and get some more info

peace and love k :)

AlkaMyst

18th January 2011, 03:29

celt

I don't need a rock in space to tell me my fate, nor do any of you.

LOL.....I agree with you there!!!

3optic

The unluckiest number according to numerology

That really cracked me up also......come on people, a number is just a number nothing more!!!......LOL

mrmalco

About 20 years ago when I got the hang of the difference between the 'real' sky and the ephemeris readings I asked a reasonably well-known astrologer who lives nearby if she could explain why astrology doesn't track the celestial motion continuously with the precession of the equinoxes? She looked a bit blank and came back to me a few days later saying it was 'very complicated' and she didn't know how to explain it. The truth is that the rising sun at the spring equinox hasn't actually had the Aries constellation behind it for a very long time.

Astrology need some other updating too. Trines and Squares are considered important dynamic aspects of people's charts. That's fair enough. A trine, projected on to a 12 point circle denoting the 12-note chromatic scale will give the notes of an 'augmented' chord. That's a musical harmony that's unresolved. So - in astrology it's understandable that a trine is a dynamic aspect of a chart. Same with the four points of a square, which in a similar 12-point scale will give a diminished chord. Which is also unresolved. However the 3-4-5 triangle relationship in the circular horoscope is ignored. This isn't just a detail. The 'Music of the Spheres' is more than just a poetic metaphor. In music the 3-4-5 relationship (deployed any which-way in the 12-point chromatic circle) always gives the harmonic triads, major and minor. It never produces any other chord except perfect triadic harmony. This means that it is a stable, already resolved feature. In number theory the 3-4-5 triangle is the first Pythagorean triad, in geometry its the whole number basis from which the whole of trigonometry was derived (so that's everything from architectural construction to mechanical engineering to space telemetry). It's an axiom in the classic Liberal Arts that they are all facets of one self-comprehending cosmos. Of the four arts known as the Quadrivium (Number, Geometry, Harmony and Astrosophy/Astronomy) only the latter art has not addressed the crucial harmonic stability of this triangular form.

This is a further topic that I've discussed with a number of astrologers and they've taken the point and agreed but said that it's 'a lot of work' to reconceive people's charts to take account of underlying stable aspects of the kind implied in the harmonic relationships.

Anybody interested in looking further into this could even get my book 'Patterns of Eternity' (Floris Publrs, 2008) where I go into this at more depth. Excuse the plug but it's relevant.

Thank you for sharing this....I really look forward to reading your book, just ordered from Amazon! :)

Seikou-Kishi

18th January 2011, 04:03

All I can say is that they've got another thing coming if they think they can move Ole Zook off his Aquarian voyage. Feb. 06 Full -blooded Aquarian. True-blooded Aquarian. The way Aquarian was meant to be!

:smow::typing:

ps: Mom's an Ophiuchus?? I can just about hear the pots flying off the fridge! 14 and Decembric has always been the Sage of Sagittarius ... and you think I'm gonna tell her she can no longer be? Think again!

Lol that's absolutely right Zook! Aquarians are the best :D

As it happens, there's nothing 'new' about Ophiuchus. Anyone that thinks it should be included should surely ask themselves why each zodiac sign apparently takes up equal room on the elliptic - they don't. As a professional astrologer, I've worked with both systems, and while the system which seems to be the most accurate in terms of plotting the planets in their respective signs by sign length, and this Ophiuchan system seems to yield a few additional insights, it in no way compares to the utility of the regular system and at best can only serve as an addendum of the original.

Teakai

18th January 2011, 04:11

Thanks Teakai. Laughed at this part of the video though:

LOL! It is? The History channel can always be counted on for slip shod standards and misinformation.

Oh yeah, 3optic - you could dismiss a whole lump of that video - I was just after the Ophiucus bit and where and when it came into the zodiac.

I would love to remember where I originally found out about it, but have watched so much stuff that I think I'll just have to stumble over it again by sheer fluke.

AlkaMyst

18th January 2011, 04:21

Maybe here?.......(It's from Nostradamus "Lost Book")

Part-1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF0CHi1RXX0&playnext=1&list=PLA4391D92A706E714&index=1

Part-2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPm6qCHCvjo&feature=related

Part-3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbpER_qKkcI&feature=related

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Carmody

18th January 2011, 04:29

An interesting point about astrology to use on those who do not understand it.

How accurate is properly done astrology... Bearing in mind that astrology is not about specifics, but about trending potentials?

Also, note that some of the original aspects of astrology, the deeper aspects, and some systems are calculated around conception, not birth.

85% accuracy.

Now, basing birth dates on conception..has...a...rate of accuracy of ....85%.

Teakai

18th January 2011, 04:52

Maybe here?[/
[B][I]Blessings,
AlkaMyst

No, that wasn't it either, Alkamyst. Though I did come across that one yesterday while I was hunting :)

AlkaMyst

18th January 2011, 04:59

No, that wasn't it either, Alkamyst. Though I did come across that one yesterday while I was hunting :)

Hmmmmmm.....I'm quite interested now to see this if you find it!!!! :)

davyj0nes

18th January 2011, 04:59

sweeet i'm still gemini oh yea happydance tyme. :dance:
but this is old news i can't remember the guy that wants to institute a lunar calendar for the west. that also has 13 months, which got me searching for a 13month solar calender and sure enuf its been around for awhile, strange the media is making a stink about it now. maybe a slow news day??? :noidea:

Seikou-Kishi

18th January 2011, 05:14

There is no bloody way I'm being demoted to Capricorn lol

Icecold

18th January 2011, 07:21

The solution is to move over to the hindu system, that way you keep your sign. I always wanted to have a vedic horoscope, but it would have meant moving back a sign. Good news. :cool:

Seikou-Kishi

18th January 2011, 07:34

Lol Icecold that is not the answer at all.

3optic

19th January 2011, 07:17

There is no bloody way I'm being demoted to Capricorn lol

I beg your pardon! ;)

Teakai

19th January 2011, 11:28

Hmmmmmm.....I'm quite interested now to see this if you find it!!!! :)

uh oh - now the pressures on. :twitch:

AlkaMyst

19th January 2011, 21:04

uh oh - now the pressures on.

No pressure my friend......whenever you find it I know you will share!!!

Patience is a virtue! :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst