Why Biden?

[Mike]

With Trump so politically vulnerable and ripe for the picking, why did the Democrats select Joe Biden as their candidate?

If the media is even a little bit correct, Biden is kind of running away with this thing, and he can barely string a sentence together. But why even take the chance with someone who is mentally unraveling? Seems to me that if the Dems selected someone who was just mildly competent and able to coherently express his/her ideas, their victory would be nearly guaranteed.

It looks like they're rolling the dice a little with Biden here. And I can't understand why. Surely they have stronger candidates available. Just curious what you guys think.

Jayke posted this in another thread and it likely belongs here too:
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[Bill Ryan]

Good question. :thumbsup: I suspect it was always known he'd be a placeholder, the theory being that he'd be elected simply and only because he wasn't Trump.

And that would be supported and amplified by everything that's been happening in America, and will continue till the last moment, to attempt to decrease Trump's chances and position him as being an unpopular choice. (And for the record, I don't believe the polls for an instant. That's just more propaganda.)

So the question then becomes — IF Biden's elected, and I really don't think he will be — who his VP would be to take over the presidency when he'd inevitably, maybe within months, have to step down for medical reasons.

And even that might be a double-domino effect, not a single one. If his VP were unable to take up office for some reason, then their VP would be the president for three and a half years. And that could be someone no-one reading this would ever want to see.

Edit to add!

I learned after posting this that his running mate was announced a few hours ago to be Kamala Harris.

[Olam]

Good question. :thumbsup: I suspect it was always known he'd be a placeholder, the theory being that he'd be elected simply and only because he wasn't Trump.

And that would be supported and amplified by everything that's been happening in America, and will continue till the last moment, to attempt to decrease Trump's chances and position him as being an unpopular choice. (And for the record, I don't believe the polls for an instant. That's just more propaganda.)

So the question then becomes — IF Biden's elected, and I really don't think he will be — who his VP would be to take over the presidency when he'd inevitably, maybe within months, have to step down for medical reasons.

And even that might be a double-domino effect, not a single one. If his VP were unable to take up office for some reason, then their VP would be the president for three and a half years. And that could be someone no-one reading this would ever want to see.

Can you imagine the power trip Kamala Harris would unleash if she was hoisted to the top.?.....that would be soooo bad.

[East Sun]

I think that anyone who can see past their nose knows that
the Clinton criminal would be ushered in to the devastation of our nation.

Could the people be so unaware of what that person represents
as to see it .put in as a vice president. God help us!

Trump will win, I have no doubt. He has to.

There are forces way beyond presidents who call the shots and
are not stupid and hopefully they can see beyond our limited vision.

[Luke Holiday]

Not that I believe it really matters ... but it may be worthwhile to take a deep dive into who Kamala Harris is: primary financial supporters, her legislation voting history and how the DNC will handle her siding with Biden's sexual misconduct accusers. etc.

https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/08/11/flashback-kamala-harris-said-she-believes-women-who-accuse-joe-biden-of-sexual-misconduct-n777092

Blessings Luke

PS: On a side note - I do not see how the DNC can justify not having a debate? CV 19 cannot be an excuse as it could be done via skype. In truth, Biden is: Damned if he doesn't and even more Damned if he does. Which leaves two options: Either the Cabal have chosen DJT or, as Bill mentioned, their is a plan for someone else to take office. What we do know is, Joseph Biden is incapable of presenting himself as POTUS.

Second side note and a bit off topic - yet some may find it interesting:)

Remember prior to the Covid 19 coming to USA, Kobe Bryant was tragically killed in the helicopter crash and google had the weird covid hebrew translation being Kobe. Many were reporting this was ritual "blood sacrifice" in order to kick off CV 19.

Well, I just realized another similar synchronicity involving death and the announcement of Kamala Harris as Creepy Joe's running mate.

First of all, how popular is the name Kamala - Not very right!, Well yesterday it was announced that the only other, Kamala, I am aware of died ie the famous Professional Wrestler Kamala (AKA James Harris may he rest in peace). Hmmmm again to the timing I say - hmmmmmmmm!

https://heavy.com/sports/2020/08/james-kamala-harris-death/

Note, I am just connecting the dots.. not drawing conclusions yet remaining suspiciously curious....

Blessings Luke

[Frank V]

With Trump so politically vulnerable and ripe for the picking, why did the Democrats select Joe Biden as their candidate?

If the media is even a little bit correct, Biden is kind of running away with this thing, and he can barely string a sentence together. But why even take the chance with someone who is mentally unraveling? Seems to me that if the Dems selected someone who was just mildly competent and able to coherently express his/her ideas, their victory would be nearly guaranteed.

It looks like they're rolling the dice a little with Biden here. And I can't understand why. Surely they have stronger candidates available. Just curious what you guys think.

With the disclaimer up front that I consider myself a progressive/left-wing libertarian, that I think of Donald Trump as a disgraceful abomination and ─ enter the woo-woo factor ─ that he's with 99% certainty the reincarnation of Benito Mussolini, the decision of the US Democratic National Committee to nominate Joe Biden as their presidential candidate simply boils down to the fact that after four years of Trump, the DNC has not learned its lesson yet, and is still trying to hold on to the status quo. They're not interested in progress. They just want to make it back into what it was before Captain Chaos™.

Joe Biden is a politician from that status quo generation ─ pro-capitalism and pro-corporate-globalism ─ while most of the other Democratic candidates that had enough of a following during the run-up for nomination represented a breach with the status quo. Besides, one of them was gay, and several of the others were women. "Totally un-American. Can't have that in the White House now, can we?"

Well, Hillary excepted of course, but then again, her husband was a former president, so he would still have been in the overall picture as the vicarious president behind the scenes if Hillary had won. And Hillary had the balls to go where no male president had gone before her in pushing the US hegemony upon the world.

Bernie Sanders? "He's a socialist! We ain't gonna vote for no stinkin' commie-wannabe!" And so the super delegates all agreed from beforehand ─ this is documented, and it was all perfectly legal too ─ that they were going to vote against Bernie, unless Bernie were able to score an absolute-majority victory all on his own account, which they knew he couldn't ever possibly attain. It was the same old trick they had already used against Bernie once before, when he was up against Hillary for Democratic nomination in 2016.

Marianne Williamson? "What, a love & light New Age guru-wannabe? Get outta here, we've got a planet to run and countries to invade!"

And sure enough, Sleepy Joe™ may be bordering on senility, but that's where the vice-president comes in. It has been done before. Lyndon B. Johnson took over from John F. Kennedy, and Gerald Ford took over from Richard Nixon. So if Sleepy Joe™ decides to bite the dust or relocate to an elderly care home, then his vice-president will take over ─ and from what I've just read in the news, it has just been decided that this would be Kamala Harris.

Yes, she's a woman, but she's malleable, and she's only going to be the running mate for now, which would make her into the vice-president if Biden wins ─ not the actual president yet. They're counting on Sleepy Joe™ still being able to hold his act together for the better part of the coming four years. After that, well, that's too far ahead into the future. There might be other alternatives by then.

The people who voted Trump into the White House all voted for him over the wrong reasons ─ just as the ones who are still supporting him now are supporting him for all the wrong reasons, not to mention the huge cognitive dissonance between what the QAnon believers and the alt-right fanatics believe Trump to be, and what Trump is time and time again showing and proving himself to really be.

But those who will now be voting for Joe Biden will also be voting for him over the wrong reasons. They're not voting for Biden because he'd be such a great guy or a visionary ─ which he most definitely isn't, and never was ─ but they're voting for him because four years of Trump's lies, nepotism, false promises, narcissism and general incompetence was already too much for them to want to endure that buffoon for yet another four years.

So, in essence, in the minds of the American population ─ regardless of what side of the bipartisan isle they're on ─ the US elections have gone from voting for the status quo candidate you like best to voting for the candidate you hate the least. The lesser of two evils, and in the eye of the beholder.

And what that should tell you all is that if the vote is for the lesser of two evils, then the system is utterly broken and needs to be replaced by something better. But that is never going to happen, because the system is self-reinforcing.

Many US states don't even allow voting for an independent candidate, or for an independent candidate to run for president. And the amounts of money spent on campaigning is so prohibitively huge that one would never get by without the support from the corporate world unless one is a billionaire oneself.

In addition to that, the US American "left-wing" isn't actually left-wing. The choice between Democrats and Republicans is always a choice between conservatives and ultra-conservatives.

Forget about the purveyors of so-called "inclusive language" and "political correctness". That has nothing to do with being progressive, but all the more with neuroticism, social anxiety and repressed self-acceptance issues. Take it from me ─ and I'm a progressive guy, remember? Besides, the most lucrative career choice one could make in the US apart from becoming a lawyer is becoming a psychiatrist, and there's a reason for that, namely the cognitive dissonance between what US society is being portrayed as in the US media, and what it really is: the land of make-believe.

In my personal opinion, the US political system either way remains what it has always been, all along: a very bad joke. In the end, there's only one winner, i.e. the one-percenters of the corporate world, because they've been (and still are) hedging.

They sponsor both candidates, and the puppet who gets to live in the White House and call themselves the emperor of God Bless America™ for another four to eight years is irrelevant to them. They are the real emperors. They control your salary. They control your mortgage. They control your loans. And the more money they can get you to spend on things you cannot afford, the more they own you.




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[Deborah (ahamkara)]

The people who voted Trump into the White House all voted for him over the wrong reasons ─ just as the ones who are still supporting him now are supporting him for all the wrong reasons

A pretty sweeping insight. A bit difficult to support. 😁 Joking aside, this is more and more appearing to be a global plan. I wonder what power; if any, the next US President will have to significantly shift the trajectory.

[rgray222]

This is actually an interesting question. If you remember the Democrats started out with 27 candidates in their primary. Some were smart, some wealthy, some successful businessmen, many successful politicians, and one, Sanders, had a very strong base of voters ready to walk through fire for him. Another Buttigieg was an intelligent gay classical pianist, who spoke fluent French, on top of that he was a military veteran and a governor of a midsize American city.

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/miamidems/pages/7389/meta_images/original/democratic-debate-2019b.png?1560481488

So how in the world did the party end up with a 77-year-old white guy whose career shelf life expired years ago and could very well be in the twilight of his very life. Don't get me wrong for many with age comes wisdom but in Biden's case, his age is, unfortunately, coming with a fairly obvious downturn in his mental capacity. I don't think the knock-on Biden has much to do with opposition party slander, it appears to be real and even his own party is questioning his intellectual acuity. It should be noted that even in his prime he was never much more than a consistent mediocre politician.

So how did the party end up here? The answer is simple, the mainstream media. History is quickly repeating itself. The mainstream media ordained Hillary Clinton in 2016 and assured the American voters that there was absolutely no way that she could lose the election. The American public bought this blatant media lie and the rest is history.

In 2020 the media made it clear early on that Biden was their candidate. One by one they started to pick off the strong democrat primary candidates. Along the way they once again offered poll after poll assuring the American people that the only person who could possibly beat Trump was Biden. They were simultaneously beating the Biden drums while stoking the fires of hate toward Trump. They all but decimated Bernie Sanders, downplaying the size and energy of his rallies. On occasion, they highlighted his age (even tho Biden and Sanders are the same age) as a negative factor. Almost daily they pointed to his socialism and openly said America is not ready for it. Sanders was pushed out by the media leaving Biden as the last man standing.

This may very well be the last time the media is allowed to play such a significant role in the selection of a presidential candidate. A poll came out last week that showed 84% of Americans no longer trust the media. That is an astounding number, politics no longer plays a role in trusting the media. MSM trust has simply evaporated off the planet.

[happyuk]

With Trump so politically vulnerable and ripe for the picking, why did the Democrats select Joe Biden as their candidate?

If the media is even a little bit correct, Biden is kind of running away with this thing, and he can barely string a sentence together. But why even take the chance with someone who is mentally unraveling? Seems to me that if the Dems selected someone who was just mildly competent and able to coherently express his/her ideas, their victory would be nearly guaranteed.

It looks like they're rolling the dice a little with Biden here. And I can't understand why. Surely they have stronger candidates available. Just curious what you guys think.

Jayke posted this in another thread and it likely belongs here too:
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But they're not are they, and rarely are. The media also assumed it was in the bag for Hilary didn't they and look what happened there.

The American public are not stupid in spite of what their media try to spin. Biden's memory lapses grow in number daily and his grasp of reality is fading. How would he fare up against Putin and Xi Jinping?

[Jayke]

With Trump so politically vulnerable and ripe for the picking, why did the Democrats select Joe Biden as their candidate?

If the media is even a little bit correct, Biden is kind of running away with this thing, and he can barely string a sentence together. But why even take the chance with someone who is mentally unraveling? Seems to me that if the Dems selected someone who was just mildly competent and able to coherently express his/her ideas, their victory would be nearly guaranteed.

It looks like they're rolling the dice a little with Biden here. And I can't understand why. Surely they have stronger candidates available. Just curious what you guys think.

Jayke posted this in another thread and it likely belongs here too:
YGJGI1d96Ns

Oh man! That montage is even more hilarious watching it a second time after a good nights sleep. :bigsmile: :clapping:

Why Joe Biden? Purely speculative view could have something to do with the Epstein-Maxwell case that’s still ongoing. Is there anyone in the DNC who, behind the scenes, isn’t either ensnared by the Muslim brotherhood or has control files from Maxwell and Epstein’s blackmail racket?

If team Trump and the DOJ are now in possession of Maxwells case files. They’d have every corrupt politician in the crosshairs. It might be a case of the DOJ or NSA or whoever is processing the Maxwell files, have said the only candidate they’ll allow the DNC to run is Joe Biden, or else.

Beyond Bidens obvious slide into dementia, let’s not forget he’s also a child molesting creep.
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He also helped write the 94 crime bill which specifically targeted black communities. All that systemic racism people complain about. Well yeah, Biden is one of those people who pushes racist policy. The irony.

Biden is by far the worst candidate the DNC could ever put forward. He’s just so easy to attack on so many fronts that his election is doomed to failure. My speculation is that with the Maxwell case files, the DNC has been cornered, putting Biden out as candidate is little more than a walk of shame for the DNC party. Abject humiliation for their worldview and the agendas they’ve been pushing. But that’s a purely speculative interpretation. I guess we’ll see how many people truly fall for the fake news polling propoganda come November.

[Gracy]

So the question then becomes — IF Biden's elected, and I really don't think he will be — who his VP would be to take over the presidency when he'd inevitably, maybe within months, have to step down for medical reasons.

And even that might be a double-domino effect, not a single one. If his VP were unable to take up office for some reason, then their VP would be the president for three and a half years. And that could be someone no-one reading this would ever want to see.

The job goes to whoever happens to be Speaker of the House in Congress in that unlikely case. Right now it would be Nancy Pelosi because of the democratic majority, but were the republicans to take over Congress, a lot of minds here would rest easy knowing we would then have a President Kevin McCarthy.

[mountain_jim]

A column from The Hill a few months back

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/495580-a-hillary-clinton-barack-obama-ticket-to-replace-joe-biden



A Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama ticket to replace Joe Biden? Is it even possible?

Desperate times do indeed call for desperate measures. For the Democrats, a truly desperate time could come if Joe Biden is forced to withdraw from the presidential race. While the former vice president is the presumptive Democratic nominee to face off against President Trump in November, his nomination is still far from official.

Some Democrats tell me they fear that Biden’s political survival is getting more problematic with each passing day. They cite three main issues. The first is their concern that an allegation of sexual assault leveled against Biden by former staffer Tara Reade won’t go away anytime soon. If anything, it appears to be about to gain a new life.

Next, they worry that another shoe could drop regarding questions related to Biden’s son Hunter and his business dealings. Lastly, some Democrats are concerned about Biden’s age and possible cognitive issues — a concern that some also have expressed about Trump.

For those reasons, and a few more, might we envision Biden being privately talked into retiring from the race or voluntarily doing so himself? Let’s assume that happens just before or just after the party’s convention, in whatever form it is held. What would happen then?

The process is actually fairly straightforward. If Biden quits the race right before the convention, delegates would select a new nominee. If he drops out right after the convention, members of the Democratic National Committee would pick their replacement candidate.

Who might be in consideration to become the new nominee — and who would be selected as the vice presidential running mate? Several likely combinations come to mind, starting in many minds with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, but one particular, truly out-of-the-box combination stops the discussion in its tracks: Hillary Clinton as the nominee and Barack Obama as her running mate.

Now, before everyone rolls their eyes, let that sink in for a moment and do some fairly simple calculations about voters and swing states in your heads. No matter how you add it, subtract it or divide it, that math would spell trouble for the Trump campaign.

Could such a scenario come to pass? If Biden flames out and the Democrats don’t want to hand the election to Trump, they would need to do something incredibly creative in a flash.

So now the “Hope for the best, prepare for the worst” cliché comes into play. While most Democrats hope Biden can survive the scandals nipping at his viability, party leaders need to prepare for the worst — that he drops out.

Some Democrats have confessed to me that having Biden drop out, for whatever reason, might not be bad news since they aren’t convinced he can beat Trump in November, despite polls showing him in the lead at this point. And they believe (perhaps a bit wistfully, in some respects) that a Clinton-Obama ticket would be a nightmare for Trump.

The next obvious question is this: Does the Constitution allow Obama’s selection as a vice presidential running mate, given ambiguous language in the 12th and 22nd amendments?

The 12th Amendment states that no one “ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States.” The 22nd Amendment — the “not Franklin Delano Roosevelt again” amendment — states that “no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.”

The operative word here might be “elected.” If Obama were selected as Clinton’s running mate, and she had to leave office for any reason, then Obama would succeed her. At least one constitutional expert is on record saying there is nothing to prevent such a scenario.

But why would Obama, who has endorsed Biden, ever entertain such a possibility? I can think of two reasons. One, he would be seen among liberal, Never Trumpers as the one who stepped up to save the nation. Two, there is no heavy lifting involved. Obama could move into the vice presidential residence at the Naval Observatory, considered some of the most beautiful, secure grounds in all of Washington, and do as much or as little work as he wanted. His only real task would be during the campaign, to push Hillary Clinton over the victory line.

Some of the smart money may be placed on Joe Biden not becoming the Democrats’ nominee after all. And, at least in a few minds, it may be time for plans “C” and “O,” Democrats.

Douglas MacKinnon, a political and communications consultant, was a writer in the White House for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and former special assistant for policy and communications at the Pentagon during the last three years of the Bush administration.

[Jake]

Because of the how he care of the,, c'mon man. Biden has because not many is HEY, you know the deal, man. If we Trump for to ask a favor, then your not black. Hair sniff moderation Barack America. You know what I mean?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ0V8EY_gGY

Jake

(Sorry Mike, I couldn't help myself)

[edina]

So the question then becomes — IF Biden's elected, and I really don't think he will be — who his VP would be to take over the presidency when he'd inevitably, maybe within months, have to step down for medical reasons.

And even that might be a double-domino effect, not a single one. If his VP were unable to take up office for some reason, then their VP would be the president for three and a half years. And that could be someone no-one reading this would ever want to see.

The job goes to whoever happens to be Speaker of the House in Congress in that unlikely case. Right now it would be Nancy Pelosi because of the democratic majority, but were the republicans to take over Congress, a lot of minds here would rest easy knowing we would then have a President Kevin McCarthy.

That would be an interesting combination. :sun:

I think how it would play out depends on how the first two sections of Amendment 25 (https://usconstitution.net/xconst_Am25.html) are interpreted.


1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

If both the President and Vice-President are for some reason incapacitated then the function would fall to the Speaker of the House, as I understand it.

[Kryztian]

So the question then becomes — IF Biden's elected, and I really don't think he will be — who his VP would be to take over the presidency when he'd inevitably, maybe within months, have to step down for medical reasons.

And even that might be a double-domino effect, not a single one. If his VP were unable to take up office for some reason, then their VP would be the president for three and a half years. And that could be someone no-one reading this would ever want to see.

The job goes to whoever happens to be Speaker of the House in Congress in that unlikely case. Right now it would be Nancy Pelosi because of the democratic majority, but were the republicans to take over Congress, a lot of minds here would rest easy knowing we would then have a President Kevin McCarthy.

The Speaker of the House, currently Nancy Pelosi is second in line to the President. First in line is the Vice President, who, if Biden wins, is Kamala Harris (his vice presidential candidate announced yesterday).

[pyrangello]

I was talking to my delivery guy for welding gases yesterday , he drives all over the state . He said he's seeing 10 trump signs to 1 biden. This is the same way it was last election when I drove to south carolina just before the election, I saw trump signs everywhere , even handmade ones and barely a hillary- the beast signs anywhere. Oh yeah and the news media where all over trump -doesn't have a chance, what a foul, he's a jerk, they laughed day after day too, nobody would ever vote for him.

I put a trump sign out at the road last week , zipped tied it to the sign post cause they stole the other one. I have a state of michigan building right in front of me so it was on my drive but off to the front corner of their lot. Guy from the state was taking pictures of my sign , wanted to call the cops not because the sign was there but because he hates trump, Trump derangement syndrome guy. So the lady from the state building brought my sign back and gave it to me and convinced the guy to not call the cops. Here's the funny part, she asked me if I knew where to get more of those signs , I had a bunch in my truck so I gave her a bunch. Wait til they see what I'm putting up later today , LOL.

Don't believe the media, don't believe the polls. Trump just signed all those executive order , no more federal deductions out of your check, extension of supplemental weekly benefit, suspension of student loan payments, and making the united states most favored trade status so if you can buy a prescription drug for .10 in mexico and it costs $2.00 here , you will now be able to purchase that drug at the .10. He also signed the federal law "Right to Try" for drugs such as hydroxichloriquine . If you want that script you can ask your doctor for that script and if they refuse it is now against the law. He's looking out for the american people, not like pelosi and crew that had 11 proposals in front of them for a new bill for relief and turned down every one of them. So Trump went around all of them and did it himself , again. Pray for him every day and for his safety. Like he said he has a lot of rich powerful people that don't like him at all.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I don't mean to make fun of someone's age or mental infirmity, but this video was recommended by Joseph Farrell in the recent Dark Journalist episode.

The Poetry of Joe Biden.
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[thepainterdoug]

STAR MARINER/ THATS A RIOT!!

this was put together by
Peronneau Vandehey

I was asked a few weeks ago, what have PRESIDENT TRUMP and his administration accomplished…..
Here you go.

Trump recently signed three bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.
Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.
Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.
Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the two years before he was elected.
Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.
Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.
Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.
Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.
Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.
Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding moms.
The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country’s highest-paid workers.
Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay.
Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land.
Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean.
He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.
Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much less providers charge insurance companies.
When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.
Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.
In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.
He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.
VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.
Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.
Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, in 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.
Trump signed into a law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.
Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.
All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.
Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price.
President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.
In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill which enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.
The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.
The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in sentencing of non-violent crimes.
Over 90% of those benefiting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans.
The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.
Trump increased funding for historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%.
Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.
New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.
Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.
Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.
The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.
Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.
President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund.
Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.
[Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all time high.
[Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] More than 7 million jobs created since election.
[Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] More Americans were employed than ever recorded before in our history.
More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.
Trump appointed five openly gay ambassadors.
Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.
Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.
In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.
Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking.
Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.
Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.
The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.
Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.
The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.
President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.
The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.
The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.
Under his leadership ISIS has lost most of their territory and been largely dismantled.
ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.
Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.
Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.
Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.
Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.
President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.
Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.
Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.
Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.
Withdrew the U.S. from the job killing TPP deal.
Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.
Okay’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.
Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.
Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.
Trump secured billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.
The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.
Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.
President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country.
8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones.
Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country.
Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core.
Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law.
Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide.
Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] manufacturing jobs were growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] the stock market reached record highs.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Median household income hit highest level ever recorded.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] African-American unemployment is at an all time low.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all time low.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Asian-American unemployment is at an all time low.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] women’s unemployment rate was at a 65-year low.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] We had the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded.
The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses.
Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare.
Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.
Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.
Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.
Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East.
The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign.
Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in Carbon emissions.
Has his circuit court judge nominees being confirmed faster than any other new administration.
Had his Supreme Court Justice’s Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh confirmed.
Moved U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Agreed to a new trade deal with Mexico & Canada that will increase jobs here and $$$ coming in.
Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices, has agreed to a Part One trade deal with China.
Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.
Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.
The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act signed into law by Trump doubled the maximum amount of the child tax credit available to parents and lifted the income limits so more people could claim it.
It also created a new tax credit for other dependents.
In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding increase for the Child Care and Development Fund, providing a total of $8.1 billion to States to fund child care for low-income families.
The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit (CDCTC) signed into law by Trump provides a tax credit equal to 20-35% of child care expenses, $3,000 per child & $6,000 per family + Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs) allow you to set aside up to $5,000 in pre-tax $ to use for child care.
In 2019 President Donald Trump signed the Autism Collaboration, Accountability, Research, Education and Support Act (CARES) into law which allocates $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years to help people with autism spectrum disorder and to help their families.
In 2019 President Trump signed into law two funding packages providing nearly $19 million in new funding for Lupus specific research and education programs, as well an additional $41.7 billion in funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the most Lupus funding EVER.
Another upcoming accomplishment to add: In the next week or two Trump will be signing the first major anti-robocall law in decades called the TRACED Act (Telephone Robocall Abuse Criminal Enforcement and Deterrence.) Once it’s the law, the TRACED Act will extend the period of time the FCC has to catch & punish those who intentionally break telemarketing restrictions. The bill also requires voice service providers to develop a framework to verify calls are legitimate before they reach your phone.
[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] US stock market continually hit all-time record highs.
Because so many people asked for a document with all of this listed in one place, here it is. No links provided to remove bias as Google search is easy. Print this out for family, friends, neighbors, etc. I encourage you to drop this list off to voters before the 2020 election too!
Trump did all of this while fighting flagrant abuse and impeachment charges.
Please explain to me why you have a problem with OUR president? Because he has misspoke a few times? Tell me when you find a perfect person, please….I’ll wait!

I’ll tell you why, because the media has skewed him in such a negative light and unfairly report his accomplishments to undermine those achievements! Why? Because the media is complicit in every single thing this man is trying to undo!

Start thinking for yourself!

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Maybe not the actual 'reincarnation of Benito Mussolini', but still, pretty darn close!

/sarcasm off

[thepainterdoug]

I was a life long liberal dem for my entire life including voting for OBama. Im very much an anti war guy. With the outrage of BLMatters etc, you would think people would also agree that darker skin Iraqis lives matter as well . We killed and displaced millions of people, families, children etc under false pretenses with the never ending war machine . Now we have a President who has brought soldiers home and avoided conflict. No war. And it totally goes un noticed as if its somehow taken for granted.
Any party that will stop at nothing to get rid of this guy , is the guy for me.

[Gracy]

Now we have a President who has brought soldiers home and avoided conflict. No war. And it totally goes un noticed as if its somehow taken for granted.

Which wars has he ended Doug?

Has he also ended the coups, drone strikes, and strangling sanctions that only hurt ordinary people?

Has he stopped going after Julian Assange?

I give him credit for easing the tensions with North Korea, but beyond that I’m not seeing any big changes in the ever aggressive US foreign policy.

[Mike]

I just posted this in Delight's Biden/Harris thread, but felt it was important enough to post here too. It's a pretty quick, 38 minute education on Kamala Harris. Ben Shapiro is obviously heavily biased (he makes no secret of that) but the information is quite valuable, in my view:

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[rgray222]

Greg Kelly says the election is already rigged by Republicans, Democrats and the media.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt8iSRMZ0pU

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I thought it was pertinent to add this video here, as Biden comes up quite a lot, and a whole bunch of other talking points. Tim Pool puts out several of these webcasts daily, and live. It's good stuff - I get a lot out of them at any rate, and I'm hoping other would too. They're not very long.

His content is not like many partizan pieces you'll find these days. He isn't a strict Trump supporter, but more of a classic liberal (not the radical type), and it's important in my opinion to listen to such voices in order to get a non-biased commentary. He's ripped Trump just as many times as he's praised him. He's no mere 'guy out of his basement' either, he really knows his stuff. As a former journalist, it was his choice to go independent, for reasons you'll understand once you get to know him.

Here's one such episode from the other day, and I think serves as a good intro. Honestly, add this channel to your favourites. He's one of mine when it comes to discussion and analysis of current affairs.

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[happyuk]

Gov. Stacey Abrams has graciously accepted Joe Biden’s invitation as his vice-president.

[Gracy]

Gov. Stacey Abrams has graciously accepted Joe Biden’s invitation as his vice-president.

Is this a Mandela Effect moment? I could swear it was Kamala Harris...

[Delight]

Indian Americans proud of Kamala

The LA Times
Kamala Harris' VP bid brings outpouring of pride among Indian Americans, a growing force in Democratic politics (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-vp-bid-brings-outpouring-of-pride-among-indian-americans-a-growing-force-in-democratic-politics/ar-BB17T9qV)

[Delight]

Gov. Stacey Abrams has graciously accepted Joe Biden’s invitation as his vice-president.

I wonder what gave you that idea?

The Latest: Stacey Abrams hails Harris pick as VP candidate
Published Tuesday, Aug. 11, 2020 | 2:07 p.m. (https://lasvegassun.com/news/2020/aug/11/the-latest-stacey-abrams-hails-harris-pick-as-vp-c/)

A fellow attorney decries the precedent of a prosecutor as VP...



Prosecuting Kamala Harris: Why she’s the wrong choice for VP
By ANISHA GUPTA
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
JUL 03, 2020 AT 5:00 AM
Dear Joe, (https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-prosecuting-kamala-harris-20200703-dutcgewwtbd5fls5e54rjzhxvq-story.html)

Not Kamala. Not now.

I grew up and attended law school in Kamala Harris-era California. She is a black woman (unlike me), but she is also a daughter of immigrants (like me), a woman of color (like me), and half South Indian (like me). Based on her identity and what that represents, Kamala should have my full support. But I chose to be a public defender; she chose to be a prosecutor. And in this moment, America does not need a prosecutor for vice president.

As a public defender, I saw firsthand that to be a prosecutor means covering up the misconduct of blue lives while criminalizing and caging black ones. I will never forget one of my first court appearances as a brand-new defender in the Bronx in 2014. One of my clients — a young black man arrested the previous night — was brought before the judge. He had blood on his clothes, a hospital bracelet on his wrist, and an unmistakable black eye. When the prosecutor saw him, she gasped.

“I hate these cases,” she said, giving my client a sympathetic look. Everyone in that courtroom understood my client’s only charge, resisting arrest, to be legal cover for the NYPD’s brutality — after-the-fact justification to conceal that the cops beat a black kid for no reason (a truth later borne out by cellphone video of his arrest).

Despite her “hatred” for these cases, the prosecutor nevertheless argued that my client should be jailed unless he could pay a cash bail few indigent defendants can afford. She did this despite the fact that every single police officer involved in the arrest had a history of using excessive force. Despite the fact that those cops wouldn’t receive so much as a verbal reprimand, let alone a day in jail for their violence.

Too often, this is what prosecutors do: shield police from accountability and ask black and brown folks to pay the price. This is what Harris did for decades.

Her office hid information that misconduct in a police crime lab tainted hundreds of drug convictions. She obstructed defense attorneys’ efforts to obtain disciplinary and conviction records of police officers with histories of misconduct. She oversaw a sham investigation that held no one accountable for Orange County’s illegal use of jailhouse snitches. She resisted calls to appoint special prosecutors when police were accused of crimes, despite the fact that local district attorneys are loath to go after the cops they work with.

What’s worse is she did all of that in progressive California in the 2000s — a time and place where she was often to the right of what even Republicans championed. And rather than atone for her regressive prosecutorial past, Harris has chosen to whitewash it.


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She doesn’t get to do that. Not with her record. She doesn’t get to jail black and brown parents when poverty affects their children’s school attendance, then trade in the political currency of being bused to an integrated school as a child. She doesn’t get to defend capital punishment in California that condemns black people to death row at six times the rate of white people, then tout her moral opposition to the death penalty. She doesn’t get to slow-walk the release of prisoners from jails so overcrowded that the U.S. Supreme Court called them inhumane, then brag about her leadership fighting against mass incarceration.

I’m glad to see that Harris may be changing. But she has followed the political tide on this, not led it. America needs a leader who has shown us her entire career that black lives matter.

Prosecutors do not necessarily pull the trigger, but they frequently function as the getaway driver when police officers abuse or kill. And as defendants are told in criminal courtrooms around the country, the getaway driver is often considered just as guilty as the killer.

So please, Joe, not her. Not now.

Gupta is an attorney currently based in Washington.

[Jayke]

Dr Steve Turley explains 3 reasons why Kamala Harris is the absolute worst candidate Biden could’ve picked to be his running mate, ensuring a landslide victory for Trump in November.

3FE3k-YDmVM1. He addresses the issue of fake polling, and points out the only polling that matters—as a true indicator of the will of the people—is how they voted in the primaries. Sleepy creepy Joe’s primary results were a disaster, getting only 8% of the vote. Harris performed so badly at the primaries she couldn’t muster enough votes to even get on the ticket. Trump got the highest votes in the history of any candidate ever.

2. Kamala Harris was vocally against Biden and sided with the women who accused him of sexual assault. Adding Harris to the ticket only brings to the forefront that Biden has a long and visible record of molesting women and children.

3. The Tulsi takedown of Kamala (https://youtu.be/Y4fjA0K2EeE). Where Tulsi humiliated Harris and highlighted her dubiously corrupt track record of criminal prosecutions during her time as California AG. Which specifically targeted black marijuana smokers, keeping them locked up in prison for minor misdemeanours as a source of cheap labour for the prison system. When asked if she herself had smoked marijuana, Harris laughed it off and refused to answer.

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https://www.leftvoice.org/jim-crow-joe-and-kamala-the-cop-another-blue-lives-matter-ticket




Jim Crow Joe and Kamala the Cop

...

...Although Biden has traditionally done well with older Black voters, who delivered him the victory in the primaries, Biden’s segregationist, racist policies might come back to haunt him during the election cycle. Harris, in fact, went after Biden for these very policies during the primary season. As the BLM movement developed, Biden showed himself to be on the side of the cops and police violence. After all, he suggested shooting people in the knees, rather than condemning police violence and brutality. But the selection of Harris is indeed a cheap scoring of political points, as neither Harris nor Biden are on the side of Black lives — much less the Black Lives Matter movement.

Kamala Harris’ record had already come under a lot of scrutiny during her failed presidential campaign earlier this year. Before being elected to the Senate, she served as the Attorney General of California. While Harris touts a “progressive” record in that position, in reality she was “tough on crime” — which means building up the prison industrial complex and terrorizing communities of color. As San Francisco DA before that, she increased felony conviction rate from 52 to 67 percent in three years. She defended the absolutely inhumane Three Strikes law in California, which means life sentences for many who’ve been convicted of a minor felony. As is often the case with Harris, she later changed her position on this, maintaining the law applied only to people who had prior violent crime convictions — although this does not alter the brutal character of the law.

She spearheaded a “war on truancy” that led to the arrest and prosecution of parents whose children had missed 10 percent of school days — with consequences of a year in prison or a $2,000 fine. The Huffington Post documents: “Two police officers entered a squat townhouse. Minutes later, their cameras began clicking. The officers had re-emerged with a weary-looking woman in pajamas and handcuffs.” This parents’ child had missed 20 days of school. Videos emerged of Harris laughing about jailing parents for truancy...

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The only candidate less suitable for Bidens pick as VP would be Hillary Clinton.

[Gracy]

So on the polling thing. I'm thinking media spin might be being conflated with the actual numbers that were coming in.

Check out this chart from Real Clear Politics, and we see that almost all the major polls listed right before the 2016 election, were within the margin of error of what the final result turned out to be.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Trump won by playing it smart, and out working Hillary, looking for a chance in the Electoral College by campaigning heavily in states where republicans seldom have a shot at winning. States that Queen Bee arrogantly took for granted and didn't even go to. Big mistake.

There were enough disaffected blue collar democrats in those states, sick of 8 years of disappointment under Obama's Neo Liberal crap, to flip those deeply blue states red, and the rest is history.

[thepainterdoug]

Gracie May

an ever aggressive foreign policy has regrettably become a way of life for our government. Its quite a shame, but our current president and any president for that matter has to play ball within certain MIBanking Complex guide lines I have to think. Did JFK and what happened to him not shout out a warning ?
There are too many factors at play, Israel for one, and I am no foreign policy expert by any means. But I don't see us marching our troops off to war in another Country , GWBush style. I didnt say Trump was perfect, in fact he and Hillary were the evil of two lessors.
but the kinds of people that should be stepping up into office are not allowed to. The game the rules and how its played is based on a total lie. with all that in mind, Ill stay put with my views.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

antifa.com redirects to joebiden.com

Although 'they' have worked hard to fix this overnight (and it has been fixed at time of writing), this was happening yesterday. Multiple videos floating around of people demonstrating this in real-time, of typing antifa.com and getting the aforementioned redirect to Joe Biden For President Official website. Not jumping to conclusions, just reporting that this was the case as of early this morning. Whatever might be the reason, it begs the question...

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[Frank V]

antifa.com redirects to joebiden.com

Although 'they' have worked hard to fix this overnight (and it has been fixed at time of writing), this was happening yesterday. Multiple videos floating around of people demonstrating this in real-time, of typing antifa.com and getting the aforementioned redirect to Joe Biden For President Official website. Not jumping to conclusions, just reporting that this was the case as of early this morning. Whatever might be the reason, it begs the question...

44068

Um, no, that is not correct. The IP addresses are very different. The only thing in common between both lookups is 192.168.1.1, which is the local IP address of your router ─ it's a non-routable address, and mine has the same local IP address.

antifa.com ─ which I doubt would be the real domain name, given that it's a .com ─ has IP address 35.209.91.196. joebiden.com has IP address 151.1.66.49. ;)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

antifa.com ─ which I doubt would be the real domain name, given that it's a .com ─ has IP address 35.209.91.196. joebiden.com has IP address 151.1.1.66.49. ;)

I won't argue with that. But it happened, there's no doubt it was happening. Just google it. Someone somewhere was playing a cruel and stupid game.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/antifa-com-redirects-joebiden-com-004722410.html
https://happymag.tv/someone-redirected-the-antifa-website-to-joe-bidens-campaign-site-and-trump-supporters-are-losing-their-minds/

[Gracy]

I don’t doubt that this happened, but some games are being played here in trying to lik Joe Biden with extreme Leftists, much less violent Leftists.

Two things here.

1) Antifa is not centrally coordinated, whatever coordination that was going on with things like planting pallets full of bricks and such for rioters (as opposed to protesters), was a group far above that loose knit pay grade.

2) Joe Biden has not been hijacked by the far left, much less far left radicals, that’s absurd. Sleepy Joe’s 40 year record shows he essentially governed as a typical tough on crime, moderate republican, and none of his current actions, right up to picking Kamala Harris, display any hints that is about to change any time soon. It’s right wing propaganda trying to put this image forward. Yes, they do it too...

If anything, that pick was just another slap in the face for the true democrat lefties who he feels he doesn’t need at all, save for the occasional lip service, to win the race.

What we’re looking at here are in Biden/Harris are two puppets for the Neo Liberal Democratic corporate establishment. This is basically a fight between hard right republicans Trump/Pence, and moderate republicans Biden/Harris.

Regardless of who wins, the wars (Military Industrial Complex) will keep chugoing along, corporate/Wall Street Socialism will keep chugging along, the Prison Industrial Complex will keep chugging along, etc. In other words, The Swamp has nothing to fear either way.

[AuCo]

Early in 2019, while there was only a few Democratic candidates that voiced their intention to run, I heard Rush predicting Joe Biden to be the nominee, only because they were pretty much giving up and intended to wait out Trump's 8 years as things were going so well as far as they could see, and that Biden would be just a symbolic candidate to get over with.

Now things have changed since the Covid-19, the Democrats are still stuck with that plan. One might think deep down they know they will lose still. What they have tried no longer works and they know that.

To answer Mike, IMHO, Biden is the only one China could bet on.

[Frank V]

antifa.com redirects to joebiden.com

Although 'they' have worked hard to fix this overnight (and it has been fixed at time of writing), this was happening yesterday. Multiple videos floating around of people demonstrating this in real-time, of typing antifa.com and getting the aforementioned redirect to Joe Biden For President Official website. Not jumping to conclusions, just reporting that this was the case as of early this morning. Whatever might be the reason, it begs the question...

44068

Um, no, that is not correct. The IP addresses are very different. The only thing in common between both lookups is 192.168.1.1, which is the local IP address of your router ─ it's a non-routable address, and mine has the same local IP address.

antifa.com ─ which I doubt would be the real domain name, given that it's a .com ─ has IP address 35.209.91.196. joebiden.com has IP address 151.1.66.49. ;)




antifa.com ─ which I doubt would be the real domain name, given that it's a .com ─ has IP address 35.209.91.196. joebiden.com has IP address 151.1.1.66.49. ;)

I won't argue with that. But it happened, there's no doubt it was happening. Just google it. Someone somewhere was playing a cruel and stupid game.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/antifa-com-redirects-joebiden-com-004722410.html
https://happymag.tv/someone-redirected-the-antifa-website-to-joe-bidens-campaign-site-and-trump-supporters-are-losing-their-minds/


It would appear that it was indeed a setup ─ possibly from the alt-right. Just as I suspected already, the domain name for Antifa is antifa.org, as opposed to antifa.com. Even though anyone can register any domain name they want ─ at least, insofar as the name hasn't been taken yet and is not on any ban list ─ the dot-com TLD is generally intended for commercial domains.

The fact that so many people were falling for this hoax ─ including the editors of the news pages at Yahoo ─ should therefore say something about their (lack of) intelligence, and perhaps also about the (lack of) intelligence of the perpetrator(s) of the hoax. :rolleyes:



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[...] corporate/Wall Street Socialism [...]

There is no such thing ─ that's a contradiction in terms.

Socialism is by definition not corporate, since it means that the natural resources and the means of production are the property of the whole of society, while corporations are by definition private entities.

Wall Street itself is of course as corporate as it gets. It is entirely driven by unbridled greed and lust for (economic) power.

[Jayke]

It would appear that it was indeed a setup ─ possibly from the alt-right. Just as I suspected already, the domain name for Antifa is antifa.org, as opposed to antifa.com. Even though anyone can register any domain name they want ─ at least, insofar as the name hasn't been taken yet and is not on any ban list ─ the dot-com TLD is generally intended for commercial domains.

The fact that so many people were falling for this hoax ─ including the editors of the news pages at Yahoo ─ should therefore say something about their (lack of) intelligence, and perhaps also about the (lack of) intelligence of the perpetrator(s) of the hoax. :rolleyes:

This seems odd though. Check out the Whois.com data for both antifa websites.

Antifa.org; registered in Florida, US.

Raw Whois Data
Domain Name: ANTIFA.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D161748952-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Registrar URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Updated Date: 2020-06-11T11:21:38Z
Creation Date: 2011-03-12T14:30:04Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2023-03-12T14:30:04Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: Network Solutions, LLC

Antifa.com; registered in Panama.

Domain name: antifa.com
Registry Domain ID: 85915752_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-10-23T14:38:04.00Z
Creation Date: 2002-04-24T12:35:11.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2021-04-24T12:35:10.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068

If it was the alt-right who set up antifa.com how did they get so far ahead of the game? Registering antifa.com 9 years before the real antifa registered antifa.org.

Looking on the way back machine on archive.org (https://web.archive.org/web/19990301000000*/Antifa.com). Things get even more suspicious when both websites have their first archive date on 25th January 1999.

I’m no tech expert but I have a couple questions.

1. How can a website be archived before its even been registered?
2. The fact the first archive record for both website is on the exact same day would indicate they were both first put online at the same time. Too much of synchronised coincidence for the alt-right and alt-left to get their websites online on the precise same date. Surely a coincidence in date would indicate both domains were put online together, most likely by the same people?

As for whether Antifa as an organisation are ‘centrally coordinated’. A recent Voltaire article explains the reason antifa were put on the domestic terrorist list. Where he points out antifa were working with ISIS in the Syrian conflict.


NATO’s Anarchist Brigades (https://www.voltairenet.org/article197831.html)

Presented in the West as the realization of a friendly utopia, the brand new « Rojava » is in reality a colonial state, designed and cemented in blood by Washington. This time, the plan is to expel the populations of the North of Syria and replace them with people who were not born there. In order to implement this ethnic cleansing, the Pentagon and the CIA have mobilised combatants from the circles of the European extreme-left. Thierry Meyssan reveals this insane project which has been ongoing for the last eighteen months.

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https://www.voltairenet.org/article210671.html




Homeland Security against Antifa
VOLTAIRE NETWORK | 6 AUGUST 2020

https://www.voltairenet.org/local/cache-vignettes/L400xH249/arton210671-863f7.jpg

President Donald Trump’s announcement on 27 July 2020 that he would soon designate Antifa as a terrorist organization is based on a 24 June report by the Homeland Security Department.

Entitled "The Syrian Conflict and Its Nexus to US-based Antifascist Movements) (downloadable below (https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/471292844-The-Syrian-Conflict-and-Its-Nexus-to-U-S-based-Antifascist-Movements-5.pdf)), and drawing on Thierry Meyssan’s article "NATO’S Anarchist Brigades (https://www.voltairenet.org/article197831.html)" of 12 September 2017, the report describes Antifa’s engagement alongside the Kurdish forces.

Antifa is a movement subsidized by speculator George Soros and placed at NATO’s service. In the United States, they have coordinated the anti-racist protests that have taken place since George Flyod’s death on 25 May. In Portland, precisely, they are facing off with federal policemen of the Homeland Security Department and burning US flags and Bibles in front of the Federal Court.

The Homeland Security Department was created by President George W. Bush after the attacks of September 11, 2001. Paradoxically, it started out by denouncing Thierry Meyssan. This was before Donald Trump’s election ...
=========

[Frank V]

It would appear that it was indeed a setup ─ possibly from the alt-right. Just as I suspected already, the domain name for Antifa is antifa.org, as opposed to antifa.com. Even though anyone can register any domain name they want ─ at least, insofar as the name hasn't been taken yet and is not on any ban list ─ the dot-com TLD is generally intended for commercial domains.

The fact that so many people were falling for this hoax ─ including the editors of the news pages at Yahoo ─ should therefore say something about their (lack of) intelligence, and perhaps also about the (lack of) intelligence of the perpetrator(s) of the hoax. :rolleyes:

This seems odd though. Check out the Whois.com data for both antifa websites.

Antifa.org; registered in Florida, US.

Raw Whois Data
Domain Name: ANTIFA.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D161748952-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Registrar URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Updated Date: 2020-06-11T11:21:38Z
Creation Date: 2011-03-12T14:30:04Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2023-03-12T14:30:04Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: Network Solutions, LLC

Antifa.com; registered in Panama.

Domain name: antifa.com
Registry Domain ID: 85915752_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-10-23T14:38:04.00Z
Creation Date: 2002-04-24T12:35:11.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2021-04-24T12:35:10.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068

If it was the alt-right who set up antifa.com how did they get so far ahead of the game? Registering antifa.com 9 years before the real antifa registered antifa.org.

Good point. The different countries and different registrars suggest that there may not even be a correlation between both domains.

Not to sound cheesy, but perhaps the word "Antifa" could have had some completely different meaning in Panama. It could have been the name of a company, as opposed to meaning "anti-fascism". But then again, it could still have meant that too, of course. 🤔


Looking on the way back machine on archive.org (https://web.archive.org/web/19990301000000*/Antifa.com). Things get even more suspicious when both websites have their first archive date on 25th January 1999.

I’m no tech expert but I have a couple questions.

1. How can a website be archived before its even been registered?
2. The fact the first archive record for both website is on the exact same day would indicate they were both first put online at the same time. Too much of synchronised coincidence for the alt-right and alt-left to get their websites online on the precise same date. Surely a coincidence in date would indicate both domains were put online together, most likely by the same people?

Very strange indeed, but the WHOIS information you included shows that antifa.com was created in 2002, while antifa.org was created in 2011. So an archive date of January 1999 for both domains must without any doubt be an error at archive.org.

Still, the years of registration are peculiar. In particular, the year 2002 was just after the attacks on the World Trade Center, and also just after George W. Bush signed the Patriot Act.

Hmm... Perhaps there's a very plausible and down-to-earth explanation for all this, but at this point, the plot appears pretty thick. :sherlock:

[Gracy]

[...] corporate/Wall Street Socialism [...]

There is no such thing ─ that's a contradiction in terms.

Socialism is by definition not corporate, since it means that the natural resources and the means of production are the property of the whole of society, while corporations are by definition private entities.

Wall Street itself is of course as corporate as it gets. It is entirely driven by unbridled greed and lust for (economic) power.

Of course it's not meant to be a proper term.

But what do you call it then when the federal government, combined with the Federal Reserve, have an unending stack of signed blank checks sitting around just waiting to have an amount filled in by these entities, as the common people are in comparison left to fend for themselves?


“We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free market capitalism for the poor.”

Martin Luther King Jr.

[Frank V]

[...] corporate/Wall Street Socialism [...]

There is no such thing ─ that's a contradiction in terms.

Socialism is by definition not corporate, since it means that the natural resources and the means of production are the property of the whole of society, while corporations are by definition private entities.

Wall Street itself is of course as corporate as it gets. It is entirely driven by unbridled greed and lust for (economic) power.

Of course it's not meant to be a proper term.

But what do you call it then when the federal government, combined with the Federal Reserve, have an unending stack of signed blank checks sitting around just waiting to have an amount filled in by these entities, as the common people are in comparison left to fend for themselves?

Fascism. ;)

[graciousb]

This may be a 5d chess move on the part of TPTB...there is no way they want Trump out of office. He's red meat to most of the media and a dependable sock puppet /division tool. What in the world will they report on cable news without him?!! He's the gift that keeps on giving, I just don't see them wanting to give up the only topic that drives any ratings, unless there's some ''alien invasion'' in the offing?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Very strange indeed,

And it's back. At time of this post typing antifa.com returns > joebiden.com

[Frank V]

Very strange indeed,

And it's back. At time of this post typing antifa.com returns > joebiden.com

Not here at my end...



[nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
[17:50:28][aragorn] > dig joebiden.com

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> joebiden.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2126
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;joebiden.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
joebiden.com. 256 IN A 151.101.194.132
joebiden.com. 256 IN A 151.101.130.132
joebiden.com. 256 IN A 151.101.2.132
joebiden.com. 256 IN A 151.101.66.132

;; Query time: 13 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
;; WHEN: Sun Aug 30 17:51:12 CEST 2020
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 105


[nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
[17:51:12][aragorn] > dig antifa.com

; <<>> DiG 9.16.6 <<>> antifa.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 49397
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;antifa.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
antifa.com. 1729 IN A 192.64.119.246

;; Query time: 16 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
;; WHEN: Sun Aug 30 17:51:37 CEST 2020
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 55


[nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
[17:51:37][aragorn] >



But maybe you are looking at antifa.com via a web browser? If so, then whoever owns antifa.com has simply set up a small script that redirects to joebiden.com.

Also, there has been (and may still be) a problem at Cloudflare today, causing large parts of the US-side of the internet to become unreachable for myself ─ including on Discord. And it is therefore possible that whatever was causing the outage has necessitated the restoring of a backup. If this rollback encompasses the DNS cache, then it's possible that you're now seeing that. But as you can see from the terminal output I've pasted above, this connection has certainly not propagated to me (yet).

What's also interesting is that joebiden.com defaults to IPv6 when supported, whereas antifa.com is still exclusively on IPv4, as you can see below...



[nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
[17:51:37][aragorn] > ping -c 5 joebiden.com
PING joebiden.com(2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644)) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=14.7 ms
64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=12.8 ms
64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=12.7 ms
64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=4 ttl=55 time=15.5 ms
64 bytes from 2a04:4e42:200::644 (2a04:4e42:200::644): icmp_seq=5 ttl=55 time=25.4 ms

--- joebiden.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 12.686/16.216/25.425/4.729 ms

[nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
[18:01:13][aragorn] > ping -c 5 antifa.com
PING antifa.com (192.64.119.246) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=185 ms
64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=183 ms
64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=188 ms
64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=183 ms
64 bytes from 192.64.119.246 (192.64.119.246): icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=184 ms

--- antifa.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 182.542/184.333/187.866/1.943 ms

[nx-74205:/dev/pts/3][/home/aragorn]
[18:01:32][aragorn] >



2a04:4e42:200::644 is an IPv6 address, while 192.64.119.246 is an IPv4 address. Also note the response time. joebiden.com has an average response time ─ for me, here in Belgium ─ of about 16 milliseconds, whereas antifa.com has an average response time (for me) of 184 milliseconds. That's a huge difference.

:sherlock:

[thepainterdoug]

in my view, the vote is for, or not for Trump.

Its not "for "Biden.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

But maybe you are looking at antifa.com via a web browser?

Yes of course, a web browser, I'm certainly not as techy as you :(


If so, then whoever owns antifa.com has simply set up a small script that redirects to joebiden.com.

Clearly so, and that's what continues to be curious.

I'm not attempting to insinuate anything by conflating antifa with Biden, I'm only pointing an arrow at something that is occurring and is clearly visible and presents a series of questions: who? what? why? when? et cetera.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

If you use Redirect Detective you get an interesting result:

antifa.com > kamalaharris.org > joebiden.com

44170

[Frank V]

But maybe you are looking at antifa.com via a web browser?

Yes of course, a web browser, I'm certainly not as techy as you :(


If so, then whoever owns antifa.com has simply set up a small script that redirects to joebiden.com.

Clearly so, and that's what continues to be curious.

I'm not attempting to insinuate anything by conflating antifa with Biden, I'm only pointing an arrow at something that is occurring and is clearly visible and presents a series of questions: who? what? why? when? et cetera.

I think it's just a cheap shot at defamation from someone on the political right.

A number of years ago, somebody pulled a similar prank by registering the domain itanimulli.com ─ i.e. "Illuminati" spelled backwards ─ and forwarding it to nsa.gov. :facepalm:

The use of a .com domain is almost a dead giveaway that it's a fake. Of course, joebiden.com is a .com domain, because politicians are tradeable commodities. :P

[onawah]

Possibly they (the real puppet masters behind the scenes who only masquerade as human beings) are running Biden for POTUS as just one more veiled insult to humanity, one more way to flaunt their power and ability to screw things up royally for humanity.
I wonder if they are making sure Uncle Joe is getting regular shots of adrenochrome to revive his failing mental faculties, and delighting in all the suspense that is generating around the questions "Will Biden debate Trump?"and "Will the truth about Hunter's crimes go mainstream soon enough to affect the election?"
Such diverting distractions! :evil:
(Except once you see through it, it becomes so predictable. :sad: :yawn:)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The use of a .com domain is almost a dead giveaway that it's a fake.

Maybe, I don't discount anything. I don't know if the antifa.com domain has ever hosted an official website, these people don't keep 'official' web presences, having said that I'm not sure this domain is 'a prank' that just popped up. The domain dates back as far as 2002, when .com was quite ubiquitous as the domain of choice.

44171

What's more, using the way back machine, it isn't the first time the domain has been redirected.

44173

*

44172

And there are various others. The one above links to itsgoingdown.org, an extremist anarchist website very much inline with antifa, so definitely on the same page.

44174

I'm certainly not saying that Joe Biden endorses antifa -- it could be the other way around however -- but it really all depends on who owns and controls this domain. Could be anyone screwing around and for any number of reasons.

[Frank V]

The use of a .com domain is almost a dead giveaway that it's a fake.

Maybe, I don't discount anything. I don't know if the antifa.com domain has ever hosted an official website, these people don't keep 'official' web presences, having said that I'm not sure this domain is 'a prank' that just popped up. The domain dates back as far as 2002, when .com was quite ubiquitous as the domain of choice.

44171

What's more, using the way back machine, it isn't the first time the domain has been redirected.

44173

*

44172

And there are various others. The one above links to itsgoingdown.org, an extremist anarchist website very much inline with antifa, so definitely on the same page.

44174

I'm certainly not saying that Joe Biden endorses antifa -- it could be the other way around however -- but it really all depends on who owns and controls this domain. Could be anyone screwing around and for any number of reasons.


This (https://www.antifa.org) is the real website of Antifa ─ antifa.org.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Antifa - not an organization - .org

Nice irony, for a very ironic 'not' organization.

Those knuckle-draggers may not be organized, but someone's pulling their strings. Guaranteed.

[rgray222]

I was a life long liberal dem for my entire life including voting for OBama. Im very much an anti war guy. With the outrage of BLMatters etc, you would think people would also agree that darker skin Iraqis lives matter as well . We killed and displaced millions of people, families, children etc under false pretenses with the never ending war machine . Now we have a President who has brought soldiers home and avoided conflict. No war. And it totally goes un noticed as if its somehow taken for granted.
Any party that will stop at nothing to get rid of this guy , is the guy for me.

Apparently you are not alone, C-SPAN had to change their phone protocols the other night because there were so many democrats calling in to express their support for Trump.

Trump really is an enigma.

[Jayke]

Sleepy Joe Biden back on the campaign trail, already making gaffes. The democrats will have to pull him before November surely, the memers are starting to have a field day.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThomasCatenacci/status/1300494641180139521
1300494641180139521
https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/057/998/912/original/5e7f32e2d8311b94.jpg?1598905179

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tracy22196412/status/1300536332926611457
1300536332926611457

[thepainterdoug]

ahh yes, we humans, collectively, are nutz

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Afraid I couldn't resist this. Though it is two separate pieces of footage spliced together, and very effectively, sleepy Joe here is genuine, originally taken from a livestream with Hillary Clinton.

https://twitter.com/damonimani/status/1299817273805467648

[mountain_jim]

Watch before shut down - 10 minute Hunter Biden and China (this is the free Chapter One)



Full "Riding the Dragon" documentary is available now, exclusive to BlazeTV. Become a subscriber and watch now: https://www.blazetv.com/dragon


N4myDwN30Hk

part 2 (hat-tip norman)

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[scotslad]

Just saw this and shook my head...

https://rense.com/general96/joe-biden-commercial.php

And people mock trump?

From the sublime to the ridiculous.

;)

[TargeT]

[...] corporate/Wall Street Socialism [...]

There is no such thing ─ that's a contradiction in terms.

Socialism is by definition not corporate, since it means that the natural resources and the means of production are the property of the whole of society, while corporations are by definition private entities.

Wall Street itself is of course as corporate as it gets. It is entirely driven by unbridled greed and lust for (economic) power.

Of course it's not meant to be a proper term.

But what do you call it then when the federal government, combined with the Federal Reserve, have an unending stack of signed blank checks sitting around just waiting to have an amount filled in by these entities, as the common people are in comparison left to fend for themselves?

Fascism. ;)

Corporatism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism) or Corporatocracy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy) is more accurate; in fascism the government still mostly controls things. (and we all know the federalreserve is a private company...)

we are actually pretty far from Fascism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#:~:text=Fascism%20(%2F%CB%88f%C3%A6%CA%83,in%20early%2020th%2Dcentury%20Europe.) (which is the FAR RIGHT side of socialism, communism being the far left)



I was a life long liberal dem for my entire life including voting for OBama. Im very much an anti war guy. With the outrage of BLMatters etc, you would think people would also agree that darker skin Iraqis lives matter as well . We killed and displaced millions of people, families, children etc under false pretenses with the never ending war machine . Now we have a President who has brought soldiers home and avoided conflict. No war. And it totally goes un noticed as if its somehow taken for granted.
Any party that will stop at nothing to get rid of this guy , is the guy for me.

Apparently you are not alone, C-SPAN had to change their phone protocols the other night because there were so many democrats calling in to express their support for Trump.

Trump really is an enigma.

only president I can think of in recent history that hasn't started a war or a "police action" (call it what you will).

[Bill Ryan]

Why Biden, indeed. :facepalm: His latest quote was that "a black guy invented the light bulb".

Not a joke. Speaking at Grace Lutheran Church, he said:
“We don’t teach history in history classes. People fear that’s, which, that which is different. We gotta, for example, why in God’s name don’t we teach history in history classes? A black guy invented the light bulb, not a white guy named Edison.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1301627883123814401 (https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1301611527913472001)

1301627883123814401

[Gracy]

Why Biden, indeed. :facepalm: His latest quote was that "a black guy invented the light bulb".

Not a joke. Speaking at Grace Lutheran Church, he said:
“We don’t teach history in history classes. People fear that’s, which, that which is different. We gotta, for example, why in God’s name don’t we teach history in history classes? A black guy invented the light bulb, not a white guy named Edison.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1301627883123814401 (https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1301611527913472001)

1301627883123814401

Here's the dilemma, we also have this:
CFN69J7A81Y

[norman]

Unless he's playing a long game. The Egyptians included a lot of black Africans. The Egyptians had light bulbs, just look at their wall pictures.


But seriously, if you wanted to make 300 million Americans raging mad ( after smuggling in large quantities of weapons from China ) what kind of forced into place new leader would do that the best. I man with no noticeable redeeming qualities at all, and an obvious Anti American crook to boot.

He's a pre-marinated tethered goat.

[TargeT]

Biden is talking right nowsomewhere in DE I think... can't wait for the fresh new set of gaffes!

[Ernie Nemeth]

In Canada we had a leader we called Joe Who? Can't say that about Biden but you can say Joe Where? 'Cause the guy is always hiding.

Hidin' Biden!

[Mike]

Why Biden, indeed. :facepalm: His latest quote was that "a black guy invented the light bulb".

Not a joke. Speaking at Grace Lutheran Church, he said:
“We don’t teach history in history classes. People fear that’s, which, that which is different. We gotta, for example, why in God’s name don’t we teach history in history classes? A black guy invented the light bulb, not a white guy named Edison.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1301627883123814401 (https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1301611527913472001)

1301627883123814401

Here's the dilemma, we also have this:
CFN69J7A81Y



WHOOPS!:bigsmile: Yep, that was a preposterous statement. Neither of these guys are rhodes scholars, safe to say.

In Trump's defense tho, that was merely an ignorant statement. I doubt he's ever read about anything that happpened before 1990 lol.

Trump will say some really boneheaded things sometimes, but it's mostly out of ignorance. Biden, on the other hand, can barely talk anymore. That's the difference between them.

[T Smith]

I've maintained for a while now that Biden WILL NOT be on the ballad November 3. DNC delegates will select a new candidate during an emergency brokered convention, probably sometime shortly before (or after) the first debate (scheduled September 29) coupled with some official declaration of Biden's illness (and following Trump's relentless mocking of Biden's "sickness" on the campaign trail). Whoever they select -- Cuomo, Clinton, Harris with a new VP pick, or maybe Michelle Obama or even a ticket with Barack Obama as VP, will then serve as a cortisone-shot to the party and will garner sympathy votes for the new ticket. I expect to even see Joe Biden rolled out in a wheelchair wrapped in an American flag before this whole dog and pony show is over.

This is purely speculation of course, but one can be forgiven for wild speculation given the party's unfathomable and obviously orchestrated candidate choice.

With mail-in ballads already being cast, however, from pets, from the deceased, and from the twin you never knew you had--and bearing in mind that those who vote decide nothing (and those who count decide everything)--ailing Biden may just be the perfect patsy of a hard coup attempt after a Trump electoral collage landslide; the Trump/Biden election may really be the DNC's sleight of hand to obscure an election that ultimately will determine whether Nancy Pelosi or Kevin McCarthy will the the next POTUS (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e70e52c7c72720ed714313f/t/5f22c800c516197500f1c997/1596114945315/ElectionTimingGuide.pdf).

The DNC's Trump card being--with pun intended--and certainly worth reiterating, those who count the vote decide on the house majority and the next POTUS.

[Mike]

I've maintained for a while now that Biden WILL NOT be on the ballad November 3. DNC delegates will select a new candidate during an emergency brokered convention, probably sometime shortly before (or after) the first debate (scheduled September 29) coupled with some official declaration of Biden's illness (and following Trump's relentless mocking of Biden's "sickness" on the campaign trail). Whoever they select -- Cuomo, Clinton, Harris with a new VP pick, or maybe Michelle Obama or even a ticket with Barack Obama as VP, will then serve as a cortisone-shot to the party and will garner sympathy votes for the new ticket. I expect to even see Joe Biden rolled out in a wheelchair wrapped in an American flag before this whole dog and pony show is over.

This is purely speculation of course, but one can be forgiven for wild speculation given the party's unfathomable and obviously orchestrated candidate choice.

With mail-in ballads already being cast, however, from pets, from the deceased, and from the twin you never knew you had--and bearing in mind that those who vote decide nothing (and those who count decide everything)--ailing Biden may just be the perfect patsy of a hard coup attempt after a Trump electoral collage landslide; the Trump/Biden election may really be the DNC's sleight of hand to obscure an election that ultimately will determine whether Nancy Pelosi or Kevin McCarthy will the the next POTUS (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e70e52c7c72720ed714313f/t/5f22c800c516197500f1c997/1596114945315/ElectionTimingGuide.pdf).

The DNC's Trump card being--with pun intended--and certainly worth reiterating, those who count the vote decide on the house majority and the next POTUS.



Yep I could see all that happening.

I was thinking Biden would fake a Covid infection to avoid the debates, at the very least.

[Wind]

Trump will say some really boneheaded things sometimes, but it's mostly out of ignorance. Biden, on the other hand, can barely talk anymore.

That's why in an ideal world neither of them should be able to run, there's not much intelligent activity going on in their heads. Usually you would think that with old age comes wisdom, that's certainly not always the case. I must admit though that I am waiting to see the debates, they probably will be comedy gold with all the childish jabs. Whoever wins though, the ordinary people will not win anyways and there's far too much tension now, I have a feeling that it will lead to strong clashes anyways at least in the American soil.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

When Biden could talk, he was most adept at lying.

https://twitter.com/mbracemoore/status/1302466539829035010

That's a career politician for you.

[Mike]

Trump will say some really boneheaded things sometimes, but it's mostly out of ignorance. Biden, on the other hand, can barely talk anymore.

That's why in an ideal world neither of them should be able to run, there's not much intelligent activity going on in their heads. Usually you would think that with old age comes wisdom, that's certainly not always the case. I must admit though that I am waiting to see the debates, they probably will be comedy gold with all the childish jabs. Whoever wins though, the ordinary people will not win anyways and there's far too much tension now, I have a feeling that it will lead to strong clashes anyways at least in the American soil.



Hi Wind, Are you familiar with the 2020 project? Bret Weinstein and a few others are trying to organize another option for the American people besides Trump and Biden. I want to post a link but my damn phone is acting stubborn and won't allow it. I suggest you check it out. Credit to PurpleLama for alerting me to it.

Trump certainly isn't "book smart" but you can't say he's unintelligent. You don't build a billion dollar empire if you're unintelligent. He's not terribly articulate but he is very smart. Maybe we should call it "street smart"( think "Charles" here). Ironically for some, I think he truly is the candidate for change, because he's the only one operating outside the book. He's the unconventional candidate many of us have called for in some respects; many are turned off by his attitude and approach but it's the same mechanism behind those things that makes him effectively unconventional.

He can be a bit of a baffoon, but in my opinion he's precisely the right baffoon for these times. He's the only one out there who is obstinate and determined enough to fight the "woke" mob, which I view as by far the greatest threat to the U.S. right now, if not the world. He's certainly not a perfect man, but if I have to choose between him and the social justice dystopia, it's Trump all day for me. Easy choice.

[Wind]

Hi Wind, Are you familiar with the 2020 project? Bret Weinstein and a few others are trying to organize another option for the American people besides Trump and Biden. I want to post a link but my damn phone is acting stubborn and won't allow it. I suggest you check it out.

Hi, Mike. No, I can't say that I'm familiar with that, but I'll look into it.


He can be a bit of a baffoon, but in my opinion he's precisely the right baffoon for these times. He's the only one out there who is obstinate and determined enough to fight the "woke" mob, which I view as by far the greatest threat to the U.S. right now, if not the world. He's certainly not a perfect man, but if I have to choose between him and the social justice dystopia, it's Trump all day for me. Easy choice.

I don't really want to get political here as I don't think it really serves anything. Based on what I write here shortly people will take sides and probably judge me for it too. I'm no fan of Biden, but when it comes to Trump I can't say I like him either. To me he represents everything that I can possibly dislike in a person and he seems to bring out the worst in people. He's only a symptom of far bigger problems though. Your country has been getting so divided and violent that I don't even know what to say. I'm not sure it would get any better with Biden though. The problem is that you would seriously need a third party there instead of the two corporate controlled entities. Money and lobbyists need to get out of politics too, because that equals corruption. Before that happens, there will be no real change. Not for the better anyways.

I'm no fan of social justice warriors either, I think identity politics can be dangerous in their ultimate form. You know that I like Jordan Peterson too, he's a man who has been warning about things like this. Sort out your own life, be a force of good and help others. That's the way to go.

When you side with one group and see the other side as enemy, what will happen? Certainly there won't be any sense of unity and harmony. That same division has come to this alternative community of ours too. That's very sad to me.

I hope the situation in your country will get better, but I fear that much chaos will ensue before that happens. These times are too polarized and people are acting it out. I guess this energy needs to get out of the system before a real homeostasis can happen.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

He can be a bit of a baffoon, but in my opinion he's precisely the right baffoon for these times.

Not trying to blow a trumpet here, but there is, and must certainly be, a side to the man that people never see.

What we do see is in the first instance coloured by media filtering, which we know is almost always slanted to the negative. He may come across as a buffoon at times, but how often is it because he's confronted by buffoons on a daily basis (media)?

And how often is the way he portrays himself and carries himself just 'an act'?

Wind says he brings out the worst in people. That could be part of the plan. For example, might he be giving emphasis to the folly of wokeness by being deliberately politically incorrect himself?

I ask: is he gaming himself, and the system, for a purpose?

Because I don't see him creating division or hatred. By his words and actions, and indeed sometimes inactions, I see him quietly exposing it. By the same token, neither is he creating any media bias. He is quietly exposing it however. Very clearly.

- If you give them matches to play with, they will burn down their own house -

I think he's taking on an entire cast of political figures that people have been led to believe are heroic, but who actually are, under the surface, anything but heroic. And he's assumed the role of the archetypal antihero to do it.

Not smart? I think the man is a genius.

There's a ton of evidence also that leads one to inescapably believe there are hidden tells in many of his utterances, particularly in his twitter feed, which bespeak the playing of a very strategic long-game. Yeh, that gets into Q-land, so I won't go there.

But I would seriously consider the following: that we only get to see one side of him. Like a stage magician, we rarely see him sans white gloves and top hat. We only see what he chooses to portray, or what manipulative light the media choose to show him in.

There is another Trump:

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[Mike]

I would agree with much of that Star. I was being a little tongue in cheek with the baffoon comment. That's frequently the default insult thrown at him, and I was playing with it a little. He can be awkward, and unpresidential, and boisterous occasionally. But those alleged weaknesses are really his strengths.

The woke crowd are an all or nothing bunch. So if we want to save the world, it has to be nothing. That's bound to be divisive, but it's divisive in a good way, in the sense that we're creating clear boundaries between the sane and the insane. Those types of boundaries are useful. There's no peace to be achieved with the woke crowd unless you kowtow completely and totally to their ideology. There's no wiggle room in their approach. So it would be much more accurate to say that they are the divisive entity here.

Trump is doing some "fantastic" things, as he'd say:). He's in the process of defunding all this critical race theory bullsh!t out of our institutions as we speak https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/910053496/trump-tells-agencies-to-end-trainings-on-white-privilege-and-critical-race-theorIf he does nothing else, that alone should make him worthy of our respect. The average person has no idea what critical race theory is, and that's the real issue here; to the public he appears to be a racist bully eliminating "equity" programs, but in reality he's saving their asses in ways they can't even begin to comprehend. It truly is heroic work he's doing. I support him!

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I think a few more question marks need to be added to the question, 'Why Biden?' (????), because it gets odder and odder. His recent interview with the 'rapper' Cardi B was perplexing. I'd never heard of her, and when I looked her up I wished I hadn't. She is a true vulgarian, such that even with **** to cover the obscenity, tons of it, her lyrics are unfit to reproduce on this forum.

Why was she chosen as an interviewer for Biden? Why on earth, given where she's coming from, did he even associate with her?

Now this women has crossed swords with Candace Owens. You had better have a cogent argument if you're going to take her on, obviously Cardi B didn't, and shenanigans ensued,

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[thepainterdoug]

Candice nails this, spot on , and Biden looks like a complete idiot.

[PurpleLama]

Trump will say some really boneheaded things sometimes, but it's mostly out of ignorance. Biden, on the other hand, can barely talk anymore.

That's why in an ideal world neither of them should be able to run, there's not much intelligent activity going on in their heads. Usually you would think that with old age comes wisdom, that's certainly not always the case. I must admit though that I am waiting to see the debates, they probably will be comedy gold with all the childish jabs. Whoever wins though, the ordinary people will not win anyways and there's far too much tension now, I have a feeling that it will lead to strong clashes anyways at least in the American soil.



Hi Wind, Are you familiar with the 2020 project? Bret Weinstein and a few others are trying to organize another option for the American people besides Trump and Biden. I want to post a link but my damn phone is acting stubborn and won't allow it. I suggest you check it out. Credit to PurpleLama for alerting me to it.

Trump certainly isn't "book smart" but you can't say he's unintelligent. You don't build a billion dollar empire if you're unintelligent. He's not terribly articulate but he is very smart. Maybe we should call it "street smart"( think "Charles" here). Ironically for some, I think he truly is the candidate for change, because he's the only one operating outside the book. He's the unconventional candidate many of us have called for in some respects; many are turned off by his attitude and approach but it's the same mechanism behind those things that makes him effectively unconventional.

He can be a bit of a baffoon, but in my opinion he's precisely the right baffoon for these times. He's the only one out there who is obstinate and determined enough to fight the "woke" mob, which I view as by far the greatest threat to the U.S. right now, if not the world. He's certainly not a perfect man, but if I have to choose between him and the social justice dystopia, it's Trump all day for me. Easy choice.

https://articlesofunity.org/

Unity 2020, not the 2020 project. :)

I though Mike would start a thread, but he went on sabbatical instead. :b

[atman]

Why Biden?

Well, as a Canadian, I would also ask: "Why Trudeau"?

I actually don't know how to answer Mike's question. And if I did, I certainly would not want to interfere in the American 2020 presidential election or to endanger their so-called democratic process. I leave that in the good hands of the mainstream media, Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

But having just re-watched the sad but also delightfully funny video in the opening post, I can't help but to ask myself a few troubling questions...

Do most career politicians lack self-awareness to such a degree?

Are they that deluded?

Or have they simply mastered the art of role-playing? And the art of lying?

Joe Biden has obvious signs of senile cognitive decline, but what does that say about those of his peers who have pushed, if not conspired, to make him the Democratic Party presidential nominee?

What about the intelligentsia, the media, the political analysts, the celebrities and the artists who appear to be sensible, most of the time, but who turn into rabid idiots — whenever Trump is mentioned — and who then proclaim that Biden alone, right now, at this turning point of western civilization, can "save" America?

Has Idiocracy secretely been established as a new form of government, worldwide, while we were watching Netflix?

Or have nefarious forces always been in control of the Matrix?

I don't know, but what a clown show.



P.S.: The Russians did not pay me to write this post.

[PurpleLama]

P.S.: The Russians did not pay me to write this post.

This would make an excellent forum signature.

[atman]

P.S.: The Russians did not pay me to write this post.

This would make an excellent forum signature.

Ha! In the crazy political reality we live in, using repeatedly such a phrase as a signature could end up inciting conspiracist extraordinaire Adam Schiff to investigate this forum or, even worse, to apply for membership!
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Joking of course, but back to topic!

[skogvokter]

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[atman]

Once again, an excellent commentary from Styx. (8 min.)

Balanced and reasonable.

I'm actually not politically inclined or savvy, but I find it refreshing and illuminating to hear opinions and analyses from persons such as him, who have a deep understanding of many topics, from the esoteric to politics.

Highly recommended.



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"Expect an absent president, an extremely visible VP acting as de facto leader, attacks on gun rights, and on free speech, and economic stagnation."

[atman]

On this anniversary of 9/11, I thought it would be pertinent to post the following article (published just yesterday).

The article does not make any mention of the cognitive decline that Joe Biden is suffering from right now, but it brings attention to his propensity to flip-flop, to lie and to rewrite history. A typical career politician, one could say!

It certainly adds food for thought, when trying to answer: "Why Biden?"

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Inside Joe Biden’s history of falsely claiming he predicted 9/11 attacks (https://nypost.com/2020/09/10/inside-bidens-history-of-falsely-claiming-he-predicted-9-11/)
By Ebony Bowden — September 10, 2020

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden for years falsely claimed in interviews that he predicted the 9/11 terror attacks and a possible strike on the White House in a speech delivered the day before terrorists flew planes into the Twin Towers.

On Sept. 10, 2001, the then-senator from Delaware gave a foreign policy speech at Washington, DC’s National Press Club in which he complained about the Bush administration’s spending on a missile defense system, warning that an anthrax or other biological attack was more likely.

“The real threat comes to this country in the hold of a ship, the belly of a plane, or smuggled into a city in the middle of the night in a vial in a backpack,” Biden said.

But when al Qaeda terrorists hijacked four planes the following morning and killed 2,977 Americans, Biden began claiming he predicted the attack.

He did no such thing. During the hour-long speech, Biden mentioned terrorism only three times — twice in reference to biological terrorism.

But in an interview with ABC News just hours after the Twin Towers fell, Biden, then chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he warned that planes could be hijacked and flown into buildings like the White House.

“Literally as recently as yesterday, I spoke to the National Press Club and talked about the fact that it is just as easy to fly from National Airport into the White House as it is to, you know, do the same thing in New York,” Biden said.

He repeated this claim for years, boasting that he “warned about a massive attack on the United States of America from terrorists,” and that he “wasn’t clairvoyant” but “knew what everybody else knew.”

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Joe Biden in 2001 speaking about the 9/11 terror attacks
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“On Sept. 10, the day before the attacks on the towers, I made a speech to the National Press Club where I warned about a massive attack on the United States of America from terrorists, why I thought it would happen and why I thought our priorities were misplaced — the day before 9/11,” Biden said on the Senate floor in 2006.

He repeated this in another appearance at the National Press Club several months later.

“I spoke almost five years ago to the day, the day before 9/11, and indicated what I thought the greatest threat was at that time. To state the obvious, I wasn’t clairvoyant, but I knew what everybody else knew,” the lawmaker said.

The former veep and septuagenarian presidential hopeful has faced intense scrutiny of his foreign policy record since announcing his White House bid last April.

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An NYC firefighter on 9/11
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Biden’s history of making revisionist remarks has also come under fire after he claimed on last year’s primary campaign trail that he was opposed to the Iraq War, which he voted for — drawing the ire of primary opponent Bernie Sanders.

In the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, Biden also questioned whether it was worth going after the Taliban who were sheltering al Qaeda, telling Newsweek in December 2011 they were “not our enemy.”

He even suggested to puzzled staffers that the US send a $200 million “no strings attached” check to Iran as a gesture of good will to the Arab world, per a New Republic report.

Biden wants Obama-era foreign policy — including return to Iran nuclear deal
Biden also flip-flopped on who was responsible for the atrocity, telling PBS in October 2001 that Islamist terrorism wouldn’t be possible without funding from Saudi Arabia before he and President Barack Obama blocked legislation in 2016 that would have allowed victims of the attacks to sue Saudi Arabia.

As Obama’s vice president, Biden also repeatedly changed his story on the perilous raid that killed al Qaeda boss Osama bin Laden in 2011, warning his boss against it before claiming he supported it.

In the months after bin Laden’s death, Biden told Democratic donors behind closed doors that he had warned Obama to wait another week for better intelligence and recounted how he warned his boss “don’t go,” according to CBS News.

In a 2012 documentary, “The Road We’ve Traveled,” Biden also warned that if Obama had made the wrong move, his presidency would have been “over.”

But several months later, the Scranton-born lawmaker said he actually advised Obama to “follow your instincts” — omitting the fact that he was opposed to the operation.

“I said, ‘Follow your instincts, Mr. President. Your instincts have been close to unerring. Follow your instincts,'” Biden told NBC’s “Meet the Press” in May 2012. “I wanted him to take one more day to do one more test to see if he was there.”

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Joe Biden, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton receive updates on the death of Osama bin Laden in 2011.
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By 2015, Biden denied he told Obama not to go in front of other advisers and said he actually encouraged the strike.

“I told him my opinion that I thought he should go but follow his own instincts. But it would’ve been a mistake,” Biden told an audience in Washington, DC.

“Imagine if I had said in front of everyone ‘don’t go’ or ‘go’ and his decision was a different decision. It undercuts that relationship,” he added.

Biden’s two opposing accounts were noted at the time in various media reports and in an interview with CBS News’ Norah O’Donnell, who squeezed him on the inaccuracies. But Biden said he’d simply “never told the whole story” previously for fear of “self-aggrandizing.”

And Obama himself said Biden was opposed to the raid in the 2012 presidential debates, as did then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who wrote Biden was “skeptical” of the raid in her 2014 tome “Hard Choices.”

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Noor bin Ladin, Osama bin Laden’s niece

In a recent exclusive interview with The Post, bin Laden’s niece came out in support of President Trump and lashed the foreign policy of the Obama/Biden administration, warning that another 9/11 could be around the corner if Biden becomes commander-in-chief.

“ISIS proliferated under the Obama/Biden administration, leading to them coming to Europe,” said Noor bin Ladin, 33.

“Trump has shown he protects America and us by extension from foreign threats by obliterating terrorists at the root and before they get a chance to strike.”

A Biden spokesperson did not immediately respond to request for comment.


Source (https://nypost.com/2020/09/10/inside-bidens-history-of-falsely-claiming-he-predicted-9-11/)

[atman]

When attempting to answer the question "Why Biden?", one should of course also consider the alternative, i.e. the other candidate.

Now, the article that I am going to post here could possibly be considered off-topic... If it is, I would be grateful if a moderator would delete it, or post it in a more appropriate thread.

Earlier this morning, in remembrance of the 9/11 terror attacks, I posted the article entitled "Inside Joe Biden’s history of falsely claiming he predicted 9/11 attacks"

To counterpoint the claims made by presidential candidate Joe Biden with some of those made by his opponent, here is an article that was published some 5 years ago by Buzzfeed News, before it became consumed by "Trump derangement". It discusses several of the written statements made by Trump, 19 months before the 9/11 attacks:

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Over A Year Before 9/11, Trump Wrote Of Terror Threat With Remarkable Clarity (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/over-a-year-before-911-trump-wrote-of-terror-threat-with-rem)

"I really am convinced we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers."

by Andrew Kaczynski, BuzzFeed News Reporter
Posted on October 19, 2015, at 2:33 p.m. ET

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In 2000, 19 months before Sept. 11, 2001, Donald Trump wrote extensively of the terrorism threat the United States was facing.

Trump, who at the time was considering a presidential bid on the Reform Party ticket, went so far as to say that an attack on a major U.S. city was not just a probability, but an inevitability.

"I really am convinced we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers," wrote Trump in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. "No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen."

Trump even mentions Osama bin Laden by name, in a criticism of an American foreign policy that too quickly jumps from one crisis to the next.

"One day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jetfighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan," The Donald wrote. "He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it's on to a new enemy and new crisis."

Trump started a full-on war with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush on Friday, when he suggested Bush's older brother and former President George W. Bush is to blame for the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Jeb Bush took to Twitter to defend his brother, calling Trump's attack "pathetic," and told CNN's Jake Tapper on Sunday that Trump talks about foreign policy like he's still on his reality show, The Apprentice.

Four years before The Apprentice ever aired, Trump devoted an entire section of his book to keeping America safe from terrorism, arguing our ignorance of the threats we faced from terrorism was the biggest threat to national security.

"I may be making waves, but that's all right," wrote Trump. "Making waves is usually what you need to do to rock the boat, and our national-security boat definitely needs rocking. Let's point fingers. The biggest threat to our security is ourselves, because we've become arrogant. Dangerously arrogant. It's time for a realistic view of the world and our place in it. Do we truly understand the threats we face? And let me give a warning: You won't hear a lot of what follows from candidates in this campaign, because what I've got to say is definitely not happy talk. There are forces to be worried about, people and programs to take action against. Now."

"We face a different problem when we talk about the individual fanatics who want to harm us," The Donald continued, discussing the threat from individual terrorist organizations that despised American culture.

Trump said such people were determined to attack us.

"We can kid ourselves all we want by mocking their references to the Great Satan, but also keep in mind that there is no greater destiny for many people than to deal the Great Satan a major kick in the teeth," he wrote, adding they despised the U.S. support for Israel.

"Our teenage boys fantasize about Cindy Crawford; young terrorists fantasize about turning an American city (and themselves) into charcoal," Trump wrote.

Trump predicted a major attack on an American city that would involved weapons of mass destruction, writing, "Yet it's time to get down to the hard business of preparing for what I believe is the real possibility that somewhere, sometime, a weapon of mass destruction will be carried into a major American city and detonated."

Trump added that even if the U.S. mobilized, the country probably wouldn't be able to stop most attacks. Trump said many people would willingly sign up for a suicide mission in America, and that the many U.S. military incursions create more terrorists who want to harm us.

"Whatever their motives — fanaticism, revenge — suffice it to say that plenty of people would stand in line for a crack at a suicide mission within America," Trump wrote. "In fact the number of potential attackers grows every day. Our various military adventures — some of which are justified, some not — create new legions of people who would like to avenge the deaths of family members or fellow citizens.

"It is one cost of peacekeeping we should keep in mind. I am not a hard-core isolationist. While I agree that we stick our noses into too many problems not of our making and that we can't do much about, I strongly disagree with the idea that we can pull up the drawbridge to hide from rogue nations or individual fanatics."

[atman]

This will be my last contribution to this thread.

Truth be told, politics are not at all a passion of mine. And I'm quite ignorant of its most intricate workings. I do love, however, the "bull in a china shop" energy that Trump has brought into the established ranks of the political arena!

As far as this thread is concerned, I think I was partially motivated to continue contributing to it... in order to show my appreciation to Mike, who has taken a most likely well deserved respite from the forum, but whose witty voice I kind of miss!

If true unity is not possible in the crazy world of politics, let us at least hope for more examples of mutual respect, such as the one below.

This is one instance where Joe Biden's cognitive decline does not matter. He did good here (even if it might have been a PR motivated move).

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https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1304403095091392512

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[onawah]

"Riding the Dragon, the Bidens' Chinese Secrets"
September 12, 2020
2,179 views"
Review from Alexandra Bruce: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/riding-the-dragon-the-bidens-chinese-secrets-full-documentary/

"‘Riding the Dragon: The Bidens’ Chinese Secrets’ is a well-produced documentary based on the research of ‘Clinton Cash’ author, Peter Schweizer for his latest book, ‘Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends.’

Schweizer narrates the largely untold story of how Joe Biden enriched his family by using his influence as Vice President to help them make lucrative deals with Communist China, including the Chinese military.

Joe Biden’s two brothers, his sister and his son had all been landing sweet insider business deals as consultants, contractors and lobbyists for much of Joe’s 35-year tenure as Delaware Senator before he ascended to the Vice Presidency in 2009. Afterwards, they kicked it up several notches.

Similarly to how Hunter Biden landed a $1,000,000 per year job on the board of Burisma when his father was made the point man in Ukraine and despite the fact that he had virtually no business experience, let alone in Ukraine or in the gas industry, Hunter landed a one billion dollar deal with the Chinese government 10 days after he joined his father on a state visit to that country.

Peter narrates, “Hunter and his Chinese partners established a private investment fund they would call Bohai Harvest. The Chinese government provided the money, Hunter was given a seat on the Bohai Harvest board of directors and a 10 equity stake in the new company.

“Devin Archer, his business partner was appointed Vice Chairman the new firm enjoyed an unusual and special status in China, operating through the Shanghai Free Trade Zone. No other investment fund in the world had a deal like Biden’s firm, not UBS, not Goldman-Sachs, not Morgan Stanley, no one.

“In short, the son of the Vice President of the United States, with little investment experience, no experience in China got a deal in the People’s Republic of China that no one else had and he got that deal shortly after his father was appointed point person on US policy towards China.

“But this isn’t just another story about a politician’s kid getting rich. Hunter’s new firm, Bohai Harvest began making investment deals around the world that would serve the strategic interests of the Chinese government – and that’s what makes this deal so troubling.

“That’s a bold thing to say but it’s true. This new firm started making investment deals that would serve the strategic interests of the Chinese military.

“In 2015, Hunter Biden’s Bohai Harvest joined forces with the Chinese military contractor, AVIC (Aviation Industry Corporation of China) to buy American parts manufacturer, Henniges.

“Henniges’s technology is considered dual-use, meaning it can be used for commercial and military purposes. Deals like these require approval of the highest levels of the Federal Government.

“Hunter Biden’s partner in the Henniges deal, the Chinese aviation giant, AVIC was notorious for its history of stealing us military technologies to build their own fighter jets and drones but in September 2015, AVIC bought 51% of Henniges and Hunter Biden’s Bohai Harvest bought the other 49% – and yes, the Obama Administration did indeed approve it.”

There’s a LOT more! Don’t miss this important film!"

(FULL DOCUMENTARY)
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[Bill Ryan]

I'd like to ask the serious question:

Will the American Presidential TV debates actually happen?

If not, how would this be justified and sanitized?
What would the national response be?
How would the media handle it?
What would the Republican reaction be?
And what effect would this have on the election itself?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I doubt very much that Biden could handle a debate with Trump. He'd be pummelled, and his handlers can't afford that. During a recent television interview he was caught using a teleprompter which if one deduces correctly, suggests he cannot operate without a script. That does not bode well for a live debate when he needs to think on his feet.

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It's not the only instance. Is someone giving him the answers on pre-written cards?

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1303075792428109837

I have growing doubts that Biden will make it to November 3rd. Question is, who will replace him?

[atman]

(I wrote, just a few days ago, that I was done contributing to this thread, but the ability to change one's mind is perhaps the essence of true growth. If not, well then I must have lied! Besides, after having just read c0rv0's latest offerings, I felt like I needed to come back, even if only for a short while, to more ordinary and down-to-earth matters...)

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To answer Bill's question, I suppose that the only "acceptable" reason for Joe Biden to not participate in the Presidential debates would be his being forced to quarantine for having supposedly become infected with the Covid-19(84) virus. But at least 50% of the population would call it B.S.

We can be certain that Trump will not run away from the still currently planned debates. But will they be allowed to take place? Will a sudden "crisis" provoke the need to cancel them?

Trump, in the meantime, has even agreed, via a tweet this morning, to participate in a proposed 4-hour long debate with Biden... that would be moderated by Joe Rogan!



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1305487258036781056

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Well lookey...entering stage left right on cue:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1303711728975446021

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https://thedcpatriot.com/shes-baaaack-hillary-clinton-joins-kamala-harris-on-the-campaign-trail-monday/

[Bill Ryan]

Well lookey...entering stage left right on cue:

https://thedcpatriot.com/shes-baaaack-hillary-clinton-joins-kamala-harris-on-the-campaign-trail-monday (https://thedcpatriot.com/shes-baaaack-hillary-clinton-joins-kamala-harris-on-the-campaign-trail-monday/)

"SHE’S BAAAACK.. Hillary Clinton Joins Kamala Harris on the Campaign Trail Monday"

That's pretty worrying. But not many may be surprised.

No way (surely!) is Biden going to take part in any TV debates. Something's going to happen to get him off the ticket, and it's not straightforward to see how that chess game will play out. But that (above) was a knight move right into the center of the board.

I speculated in my July thread What's happening right now, and why (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111410-What-s-happening-right-now-and-why) that what really is happening here, and why there's such near-insane desperation to get Trump out of the White House by any means possible, is that this is the window to get Hillary back on her intended 2008 timeline (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html).

For that to happen, somehow she has to end up as President soon after this November election. My guess is that all this is being wargamed out, and there's some high legal switcheroo complexity that's being very carefully planned. This also fits perfectly with all the recent rhetoric of "Trump will be escorted from the White House, whether he knows it yet or not".

If this actually happens, and somehow Hillary gets to be President, then what follows soon after will be WW III.

[onawah]

Hillary Clinton UNHINGED While A Miserable Bill Clinton Sits Behind Her
142,832 views•Sep 6, 2020

5BPstelHRVo

(The expressions on Bill's face are priceless. I don't imagine domestic peace in the Clinton household was advanced once she saw him in this video.
But wouldn't it be great if he would continue appearing with her as she campaigns, with that same, oh-so-sad, oh-so-telling face...:rofl:)



Well lookey...entering stage left right on cue:

https://thedcpatriot.com/shes-baaaack-hillary-clinton-joins-kamala-harris-on-the-campaign-trail-monday (https://thedcpatriot.com/shes-baaaack-hillary-clinton-joins-kamala-harris-on-the-campaign-trail-monday/)

"SHE’S BAAAACK.. Hillary Clinton Joins Kamala Harris on the Campaign Trail Monday"

That's pretty worrying. But not many may be surprised.

No way (surely!) is Biden going to take part in any TV debates. Something's going to happen to get him off the ticket, and it's not straightforward to see how that chess game will play out. But that (above) was a knight move right into the center of the board.

I speculated in my July thread What's happening right now, and why (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111410-What-s-happening-right-now-and-why) that what really is happening here, and why there's such near-insane desperation to get Trump out of the White House by any means possible, is that this is the window to get Hillary back on her intended 2008 timeline (http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html).

For that to happen, somehow she has to end up as President soon after this November election. My guess is that all this is being wargamed out, and there's some high legal switcheroo complexity that's being very carefully planned. This also fits perfectly with all the recent rhetoric of "Trump will be escorted from the White House, whether he knows it yet or not".

If this actually happens, and somehow Hillary gets to be President, then what follows soon after will be WW III.

[Gemma13]

1265278761907490817

[Gracy]

1265278761907490817

I'm no defender of Mr. Status Quo, but let's try and make sure we at least get quotes from these guys straight here. What he said starting at :48 is the following: "I’m prepared to say, that I have a record of over 40 years, and that I am going to be Joe Biden".

[RunningDeer]

1265278761907490817

I'm no defender of Mr. Status Quo, but let's try and make sure we at least get quotes from these guys straight here. What he said starting at :48 is the following: "I’m prepared to say, that I have a record of over 40 years, and that I am going to be Joe Biden".

I pulled up the transcript @ 48 seconds (https://youtu.be/s9k-MibU8RI?t=48):


http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/News/beat-joe2.jpg


http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/News/beat-joe3.jpg

There are only 85 subscribers to the channel, but 193,089 have viewed the video. 834 left comments. It appears that many if not most are unfavorable. Also there are a lot of copies on other YouTube channels (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=I’m+Going+to+Beat+Joe+Biden).




Biden: I’m Going to Beat Joe Biden (1:53)
s9k-MibU8RI

[Gracy]

Okay Paula, I'm just going by what my ears tell me, who am I to argue with the transcript and all the arrows?
:ohwell:

[ZenBaller]

It's obvious that he is in the early stages of Alzheimer, but in this latest video he says "I'm gonna be Joe Biden". There's no "t" in there. It also makes sense with the whole phrase. Don't worry though, there are so many other videos he messes up.

Btw, an off-topic observation. I never understood how so many very old politicians are so high in the hierarchy in the USA in its whole history. I haven't seen this pattern in any other country. Biden is 77, he should be sitting peacefully in a porch watching people passing by, instead of trying to run for an extremely complex and psychologically pressing job which affects billions of people.

[sunwings]

"I can beat Joe Biden´s husband!" :o

nls1K1oKUnY

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It could just as easily be 'I'm going to beat Joe Biden' when taking all his other gaffes into account, including that rally when he mistook his own sister for his wife. It doesn't really matter, it's clear as day he's not mentally well.



[/I]If this actually happens, and somehow Hillary gets to be President, then what follows soon after will be WW III.

I wondered what you thought of this Bill. This graphic is a just a projection, but is based on the many hints Q has dropped regarding Hillary, and what would/may have happened had she won. There was, apparently, a 16 year plan to destroy America. This could indeed be a last ditch scramble to get that train back on the tracks.

https://i.imgur.com/2rgiCMr.jpg

[RunningDeer]

Okay Paula, I'm just going by what my ears tell me, who am I to argue with the transcript and all the arrows?
:ohwell:

I updated the image, Gracy May.

I use arrows/circles for: 1) those like myself that retain more/best using a visual modality 2) those with time constraints.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

According to Biden these are the four HISTORIC crises we are facing:

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1305565052595056643

A) Pandemic - supremely manipulated with lies
B) Economic Crisis - compounded by A
C) Climate Change - supremely manipulated with lies
D) White Supremacy - an outright LIE

He must be living in an alternate reality.

[Gracy]

Well I don't know whether we'll ever resolve the great "be" vs. "beat" debate, but what I do know is that when passionately backing any given candidate, it's all to easy to point out the other guy's shortcomings, while conveniently ignoring or excusing those of one's own chosen candidate.

It's human nature.

Of course there's plenty to rag on "Slow Joe" about, but Trump isn't exactly a Rhodes Scholar either. Hell, I'll bet you either one of these guys would even embarrass themselves on this very forum, were they to try and act smart in many of the issues we explore here.

So either Trump has been playing the old 4D chess game to trick his political enemies, or he has issues of his own. Like saying the Continental Army, for instance, shut down the airports during America's Revolutionary war.

Remember that oldie but goodie? :)
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This one's kind of fun as well:
Ftpc4fwcDfk

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Duly noted of course. I once had to speak publicly, on stage in front of 700 people. I got hot and tongue-tied, stumbled on my words and made a total mess of it (and a fool of myself). I am not a trained or experienced public speaker though.

Perhaps neither is Trump - though he was a TV personality for several years. But he isn't and never was a career politician, not a trained, groomed, practised politician like all the others (like Biden who's been at it for 40+ years).

I expect Trump experienced a flutter in his stomach when he first ran and began speaking to large crowds. And maybe still does. It's only human. Personally I don't know how anyone does it at all!

[Gemma13]

1265278761907490817

I'm no defender of Mr. Status Quo, but let's try and make sure we at least get quotes from these guys straight here. What he said starting at :48 is the following: "I’m prepared to say, that I have a record of over 40 years, and that I am going to be Joe Biden".
Just posted it for a bit of humour Gracy amongst the insanity we are witnessing daily.  Heck we're all guilty of putting our foot in our mouth and althoughTrump doesn't come close to Biden's cringeworthy, imo, he's certainly got his fair share of embarrassing cringee.

I actually posted it because it made me think of TargeT's post #63 so thought perhaps he might get a chuckle out of it.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Kamala Harris can also fluff her lines. Freudian slip?

At 1.34 she calls it 'the Harris Administration - with Joe Biden'. Is that normal for a running VP to say?

2CIFUNmVnKQ

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

When you see those who have always been impartial (many being obligated to remain impartial), suddenly becoming partial, you really have to ask why...

https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1305854127721910275

When you consider covid, when you consider climate science, this is a pertinent issue.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh9d5K0X0AIKUbV?format=jpg&name=large

[Delight]

Edited but NOT MUCH better in full (from a year ago)...

1305828139097034753

IMO not apologetic and demented. I suspect he will NOT be an easy patient as time goes on.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Trump, in the meantime, has even agreed, via a tweet this morning, to participate in a proposed 4-hour long debate with Biden... that would be moderated by Joe Rogan!



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1305487258036781056

Some further chan-chatter on that - it might be confirmed. Not verified due to the nature of anonymity, but definitely interesting...

click for large
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[thepainterdoug]

anyone hear it on the news?? SO ITS THE HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. lol

from Paul Craig Roberts/
Kamala Calls It “the Harris Administration”

White liberals are such total dumb****s that they will put her in office if they can.

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/09/15/kamala-calls-it-the-harris-administration/

[Delight]

anyone hear it on the news?? SO ITS THE HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. lol

from Paul Craig Roberts/
Kamala Calls It “the Harris Administration”

White liberals are such total dumb****s that they will put her in office if they can.

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/09/15/kamala-calls-it-the-harris-administration/

Thanks, I wanted to hear her say it.
Of course, this won't deter any one I know who is driven by hatred of trump. They are all voting for the Harris Adminsistration with Joe Biden (as president). "The Biden?Harris Administration"

[thepainterdoug]

thats the scheme!!

and btw
i was in total shock today. right in the middle of this unprecedented peace deal being shown, my tv provider put one of the public service warnings on with the piercing sound!! and when it finally ended , the picture stayed blacked out for about 5 minutes!!!!! it was insane, in all my life i never saw such a desperate attempt to scuttle and obfuscate something! and it was no mistake!

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

anyone hear it on the news?? SO ITS THE HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. lol

from Paul Craig Roberts/
Kamala Calls It “the Harris Administration”

White liberals are such total dumb****s that they will put her in office if they can.

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2020/09/15/kamala-calls-it-the-harris-administration/

See post #104

It's not just her, even Joe himself said it. It's quite plain he's reading this off a prompter, so it comes from whoever wrote it.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1305937973842649088

[T Smith]

When you see those who have always been impartial (many being obligated to remain impartial), suddenly becoming partial, you really have to ask why...

https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1305854127721910275

When you consider covid, when you consider climate science, this is a pertinent issue.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh9d5K0X0AIKUbV?format=jpg&name=large

I would say it's actually easier to buy a scientist than it is a politician.... a politician has to at least provide lip service and some degree of representation to her or his constituents; a scientist's very livelihood is fully dependent on grants, research funding, and the fully corrupted associations charged with granting said scientists the privilege of State licenses and practicing science.

And of course those who can't be purchased are simply ridiculed and discredited (https://www.meaction.net/2020/05/07/discredited-virus-researcher-pushes-coronavirus-misinformation/).

[Gracy]

The dilemma remains, rather similar to the very low approval rating of Congress here in the US (that is if we don't think all polls are fake news). Americans highly disapprove of Congress in general, but somehow, they seem to exempt the ones from their own districts and usually think they're doing a pretty good job.

The numbers don't add up but, that's how it is.

So where do we fit into that paradigm? Do we not do the same in exempting from scrutiny politicians and scientists we like, who play for our "team", while laying the heavy lumber to any and all that disagree with our chosen heroes?

It's all very black and white, no quarter given to the other side "bad guys". It makes conversation, and mutual respect despite differences, next to impossible.

[Gemma13]

So where do we fit into that paradigm? Do we not do the same in exempting from scrutiny politicians and scientists we like, who play for our "team", while laying the heavy lumber to any and all that disagree with our chosen heroes?

It's all very black and white, no quarter given to the other side "bad guys". It makes conversation, and mutual respect despite differences, next to impossible.

I try hard to avoid the limitation of "it's all black and white".

Yes, it is a sad dilemma that many people feel they have to pick a side and defend it no matter what by ignoring all the data.

Then there is the false labelling of those who are looking into and discussing details of the minutia of "on the ground topics" as being pro a side. 

Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't when we are forced to, and it appears we are, aligning with the lesser of evils.

Maintaining a birds eye view premise at all times that the majority of people want the same thing, (fairness and equality), makes it easier to remove the black and white judgments so that mutual respect is maintained and conversations can roll on without opinionated bias adding shade.

For sure, easier said than done.

[Sue (Ayt)]

Speaking of polls, I've been enjoying watching this youtube video non-partisan live poll that someone put up recently. (Must give a hat tip to their programming skills.)
So far, it appears to be working correctly, limiting 1 vote per registered youtube user. It's worded simply as "Who will win?" (not who will you vote for), so it's more of an opinion poll I guess. But it is interesting seeing the large spread.
RFRMReU-Hyg

[Bill Ryan]

For what it's worth, this is from 4chan.

Part of this fits a little with what BDAnon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111872-The-BDAnon-post-archive) has been rather dramatically claiming about him. It's anonymous, of course, and some of it is a little unsavory, but I have to say it does all ring true.


https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/276699459

~~~
I worked for the Biden Campaign (Anonymous)

I worked as a low-level staffer for the Biden campaign’s HQ in Philly from July to the end of August. I am more of a Bernie guy, but I thought I should do whatever I could to defeat Trump, so I joined up. Eventually, I became so disgusted with what was going on, I had to leave. Some of this I experienced, the juicier bits are things my (now former) co-workers told me, so take those bits with a grain of salt:

One - The whole campaign is extremely paranoid about leaks/getting hacked.

If I were to publish the email chains I got, you’d see about a thousand messages saying “please see me” or “meeting at 10am”. No one wants another DNC hack situation, so no one puts any real information in emails or texts. Even with COVID, in-person meetings are the norm. They don’t want to do anything on Zoom either, in case someone records it. Everyone is suspicious of each other, and nobody likes to give specifics on anything. It was frustrating.

Two – All of the Bernie bros joke about being “another Seth Rich”.

With the paranoid atmosphere, some of us would make comments about ending up like Seth. None of us really believed the conspiracy theories, except for one weird older guy who was convinced that Malcolm Nance murdered him. His evidence? Nance made some cryptic tweets about “punishing the hackers” the day before Seth was murdered, and the deed was done less than a mile from the Intelligence Museum in DC that Nance owns. I didn’t buy it, but I can’t say I wasn’t intrigued by the coincidence.

Three – There are people whose job is to digitally de-age Biden for political ads.

If you saw a recent speech for Joe and though he looked like a mummy, then saw snippets of the same speech in an ad, you might have noticed he looked a lot better. That’s because they contracted VFX artists from California to de-age him. Normally I wouldn’t begrudge them this, as I’m sure all campaigns try to make their candidate look good. But, considering what they’re really covering up…

Four – Joe Biden is in the early stages of dementia, and is on medication for it.

This is the big one, and the one I have the least direct experience with, but it’s been an open secret for some time. Anyone who has had a relative with Alzheimer’s or dementia can tell you, there are good days and bad days. On the good days, when Joe is at his most lucid, his campaign manager Jen will send him out for photo ops or TV interviews… make hay while the sun is shining, you know? On the bad days, Jen just tells the press pool “No Joe today,” and they’re all like, “Okay, cool!” Most of the time, he’s just a little foggy and gets really agitated. But one of my co-workers told me that back in May, there was a day where he thought he was running against Gary Hart in the ’84 primary again. Joe went under wraps for several days after that.

He’s been more lucid recently because his physician, Dr. O’Connor, put him on Namenda. Jen apparently was worried about someone finding it out, because she insisted that he prescribe it under a series of phony names, and then have the interns pick it up. I bet there are a lot of pharmacists in Philly wondering why there are so many young people on Namenda.

Five – The dementia medication has had, um… unfortunate side effects.

There’s no dancing around this… the medication has made Joe incontinent. Though his “good days” have increased dramatically, he can barely get through a press event without running to the bathroom. That’s why he didn’t take questions after announcing Harris as his running mate. They weren’t afraid of the questions, the press loves him… they were afraid he was going to piss his pants on-camera. Lately, Jen’s been having closed-door meetings to discuss which brand of incontinence pads would be best to purchase. Seriously, a group of paid staffers sat around and discussed which brands were the least visible, the least likely to leak, and wouldn’t audibly “crinkle.”

That’s around the time I left the campaign. I can’t be a party to this sick game anymore. I never really liked Joe Biden, but he deserves better than to be thrust into the public eye when he should be in memory care. His wife should put a stop to this, but she’s way too excited about being “First Lady” to care about her ailing husband.

[Sarah Rainsong]

It would not surprise me one bit for there to be a debate between Biden and Trump. But certainly not on the Joe Rogan show! It would be pretty much like the debates in the primary, with soft-ball questions that cater to Biden.

Trump is not a good public speaker, not for answering questions on the fly. That's not really a problem, IMO, because many very intelligent people are not good at public speaking! My personal theory is that their minds run too quickly for them to get so many thoughts in an intelligible order in a short amount of time.

That is completely different than the obvious early stages of dementia that Biden is exhibiting. His "gaffes" are not due to not having good public speaking skills. It's two totally different things. But I'm not convinced that Biden is so far down that road that he can't handle the same level of debates as in the primaries.

In any case, if there is a debate, it will be rigged for Trump to look bad and for Biden to be tossed soft balls. The DNC/controllers do not care about trying to convince anyone to vote FOR Biden. They really do not care what the people think. That became increasingly obvious to anyone watching the primaries. They had decided Biden would be their candidate, and that was that. Their entire approach for this election is about NOT voting for Trump. So if they think a rigged debate will help towards that end, they'll do it.

[atman]

Why Biden?

Because Harris!

And so the deeply recognized reality of Joe Biden's cognitive decline and, consequently, of his inability to really assume the role of president even if elected, has been manifesting itself in Freudian slips coming not only from Biden himself ("a Harris/Biden administration"), but also from his running mate, Kamala Harris ("a Harris... administration together with Joe Biden as President of the United States").

The crazy thing about the slip from Kamala Harris is that it happened while she had been reading from a teleprompter!

And here is Joe Biden finally doing a Q&A without a teleprompter, which only confirms the sad reality of his cognitive decline.

sExGofYTfuI
One of the top comments below the video:

"The entire Democrat Party should be charged with Elder Abuse."

[Chester]

[...] corporate/Wall Street Socialism [...]

There is no such thing ─ that's a contradiction in terms.

Socialism is by definition not corporate, since it means that the natural resources and the means of production are the property of the whole of society, while corporations are by definition private entities.

Wall Street itself is of course as corporate as it gets. It is entirely driven by unbridled greed and lust for (economic) power.

Of course it's not meant to be a proper term.

But what do you call it then when the federal government, combined with the Federal Reserve, have an unending stack of signed blank checks sitting around just waiting to have an amount filled in by these entities, as the common people are in comparison left to fend for themselves?


“We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free market capitalism for the poor.”

Martin Luther King Jr.

You call it fascism.

EDIT ADDED:





[...] corporate/Wall Street Socialism [...]

There is no such thing ─ that's a contradiction in terms.

Socialism is by definition not corporate, since it means that the natural resources and the means of production are the property of the whole of society, while corporations are by definition private entities.

Wall Street itself is of course as corporate as it gets. It is entirely driven by unbridled greed and lust for (economic) power.

Of course it's not meant to be a proper term.

But what do you call it then when the federal government, combined with the Federal Reserve, have an unending stack of signed blank checks sitting around just waiting to have an amount filled in by these entities, as the common people are in comparison left to fend for themselves?

Fascism. ;)

So it is either, a.) a broken clock is still right twice a day or b.) great minds think alike?

[Chester]

Okay Paula, I'm just going by what my ears tell me, who am I to argue with the transcript and all the arrows?
:ohwell:

Maybe that's called a "Freudian hear?" (and, to be fair, this could go both ways).

[thepainterdoug]

atman/ ouch! I mean really, O U C H

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Oh the humanity. Just when you thought it couldn't get any more surreal. Poor Joe. I'm seriously starting to feel sorry for the guy now.

In his latest clanger he walked out on stage and begins playing the song "Despacito" from his cell phone. His team really need to vet everything he says and does before he says and does them.

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1306033494443859968?s=20

"Despacito" (in English)

{....}
You are the magnet and I am the metal
I'm getting closer and I'm putting together the plan
Just thinking about it gets your pulse racing

Oh yeah
Oh yeah

Ya, I'm already liking it more than normal
All my senses are asking for more
This must be taken without any haste

Slowly

I want to breathe your neck slowly
Let me tell you things in my ear...

44430

At some point, you've just got to laugh out loud. :lol:

Lyrics go on:

I want to be your rhythm (eh oh) (uh oh, uh oh)
That you teach my mouth (eh oh) (uh oh, uh oh)
Your favorite places (uh oh) (favorites, favorites baby)

You know that your heart with me makes you bam bam
You know that baby is looking for me bam bam

Come test my mouth to see how it tastes to you (eh eh)
I want, I want, I want to see how much love fits you..

I'll leave it there..

Of course social media is on fire with this right now.

[atman]

First a Freudian slip, and now the odd synchronicity of a song whose translated title and lyrics immediately evoke some of Biden's most well-known derogatory nicknames, i.e. "Sleepy Joe" and "Creepy Joe"! One cannot help but to wonder if his campaign manager is in a sleepy trance too.

What a circus this is. Oddly entertaining, while at the same time making one feel something akin to the sad clown paradox...

But back to the question, Why Biden?

Here's an interesting short video report that was broadcast 5½ years ago by CNN — before the cable news network had completely morphed into a raging propaganda arm of the Democratic Party — and that is actually more relevant today than it was then.

Not only does the report address the troubling reality of Joe's creepy moments and other embarrassing gaffes, it most significantly demonstrates that Joe Biden's viability as a potential presidential candidate used to be openly questioned even by left-leaning mainstream news outlets.

-iSAh3haVtY

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The lengths the Fakestream Media go to. Mistakes like this don't "just happen". This is blatant manipulation, to show a candidate in a favourable light. CBS should get in trouble for this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LD25_GOP/status/1306224239783981057

Maybe they thought people wouldn't notice the MAGA signs and Trump hats!


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=44432&d=1600280449

[Gracy]

When you see those who have always been impartial (many being obligated to remain impartial), suddenly becoming partial, you really have to ask why...

https://twitter.com/sciam/status/1305854127721910275

Well, if the implication is that something nefarious or unseemly is going on there, the same must hold true here:


New York City’s largest police union had not endorsed a candidate for president in decades when its leader, Patrick J. Lynch, stepped to the lectern last month at President Trump’s golf club in New Jersey.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/14/nyregion/ny-police-unions-racial-disparity-trump.html

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It's not the same, not from where I'm at :)

I've tried to treat this carefully and delicately, I never want to upset anyone or cause a scene. I did explain my position in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111532-Cancel-Culture--Examples-&p=1377944#post1377944), but maybe I need to be unequivocally clear. This is not a political election anymore. It isn't cons vs libs, right vs left, red vs blue. What used to be Rs, and certainly what used to be Ds, basically no longer exist.

This is not a normal election with normal stakes. I'm purely stating my opinion here, of what I see.

This is a fight against the complete destruction of the West. End of.

So the "implication" is simply this - re the above tweet. If you're endorsing Biden, you're either A), unobservant, possibly unconscious , or B) [B]utterly comped.

In other words, Scientific American is B). Because there is no C).

Kudos to NYPD [they know what's on the Weiner laptop]

[Jayke]

First a Freudian slip, and now the odd synchronicity of a song whose translated title and lyrics immediately evoke some of Biden's most well-known derogatory nicknames, i.e. "Sleepy Joe" and "Creepy Joe"! One cannot help but to wonder if his campaign manager is in a sleepy trance too.

What a circus this is. Oddly entertaining, while at the same time making one feel something akin to the sad clown paradox...

But back to the question, Why Biden?

Here's an interesting short video report that was broadcast 5½ years ago by CNN — before the cable news network had completely morphed into a raging propaganda arm of the Democratic Party — and that is actually more relevant today than it was then.

Not only does the report address the troubling reality of Joe's creepy moments and other embarrassing gaffes, it most significantly demonstrates that Joe Biden's viability as a potential presidential candidate used to be openly questioned even by left-leaning mainstream news outlets.

-iSAh3haVtY

Anyone else get the impression the deep state leadership behind the Democratic Party has been decapitated to a certain degree. Biden is like a puppet floundering after the puppeteers strings have been cut. The whole campaign is nothing but meme-fodder at this point.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/058/325/480/original/bea3fc37bc6c1268.jpeg?1600282646

~~~~~~~~~~~
https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/058/280/789/original/cf32b0772b8b364f.jpg?1600102258

[TargeT]

You call it fascism.




SOCIALISM is the over arching theory


COMMUNISM is far LEFT socialism

FASCISM is far RIGHT socialism


it's all socialism....


These terms are being used incorrectly, we are a Corporatocracy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy) or something similar, not fascist, not communist, not really any of the flavors of socialism at all really.

[Strat]

You call it fascism.




SOCIALISM is the over arching theory


COMMUNISM is far LEFT socialism

FASCISM is far RIGHT socialism


it's all socialism....


These terms are being used incorrectly, we are a Corporatocracy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy) or something similar, not fascist, not communist, not really any of the flavors of socialism at all really.

You beat me to it. I'd suggest the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Perhaps this is why they falsely depicted Biden's Latino outreach event (they used an image of Trump supporters at a Trump event in Arizona).

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=44433&d=1600294278

[Gracy]

I've tried to treat this carefully and delicately, I never want to upset anyone or cause a scene. I did explain my position in this post, but maybe I need to be unequivocally clear.

I don't think you need be trying to walk on egg shells with your opinions Star, this is pretty much a fire engine red MAGA forum by this point anyway, and I'm no shrinking violet. :)


This is not a political election anymore. It isn't cons vs libs, right vs left, red vs blue. What used to be Rs, and certainly what used to be Ds, basically no longer exist.

Yes, by definition this is , a political election. Both sides are hyper focused in their trenches like never before, demonization of "the other" is becoming less and less tolerated, but this is not the epic "Good vs. Evil - There Can Be Only One" that both sides are pounding on.

I think this mindset is extremely dangerous, as battlefield like dehumanization of "the bad guys" is already well entrenched and gaining momentum; nothing good comes out of dehumanizing one's political foes, or any foes for that fact. I think most of us know the history on that...

Now if this is not political, why does one side get all their "news" from MSNBC, CNN, and left wing political hacks, while the other side gets all their news FOX, OANN, InfoWars, X22, and right wing political hacks?


This is a fight against the complete destruction of the West. End of.

No, it's not, but certain people are sure creating that illusion. Remember how things were so dire post 9/11, that we just had to start suspending certain individual liberties, in lieu of launching the never ending as we now know "War on Terror" to get the bad guys?

I see this as similar, being pitted against one another with shadows and puppetry just as in that time, and just as in "Plato's Cave".
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So the "implication" is simply this - re the above tweet. If you're endorsing Biden, you're either A), unobservant, possibly unconscious [being as polite as possible], or B) utterly comped.

In other words, Scientific American is B). Because there is no C).

Kudos to NYPD [they know what's on the Weiner laptop

Is it possible that you feel Scientific American is compromised because they disagree with your current world view, and the Police Benevolent Association gets "kudos", because they do agree with your world view?

What if Scientific American had suddenly up and endorsed Trump instead, would they get kudos in that case?

Is it really that black and white?




SOCIALISM is the over arching theory


COMMUNISM is far LEFT socialism

FASCISM is far RIGHT socialism


it's all socialism....


These terms are being used incorrectly, we are a Corporatocracy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy) or something similar, not fascist, not communist, not really any of the flavors of socialism at all really.

Call it what you will, but nothing about it will change regardless of who wins this election. Provided we don't rip each other to shreds first, in which case the form of government would be rendered irrelevent.

[thepainterdoug]

gracie may said/
Is it possible that you feel Scientific American is compromised because they disagree with your current world view, and the Police Benevolent Association gets "kudos", because they do agree with your world view?
What if Scientific American had suddenly up and endorsed Trump instead, would they get kudos in that case?

Gracie May/ thats why the problem is the human being itself. I like the sports analogy, you hate the superstar on the other team you hate until he,s traded to your team. Then you love him. we see the world thru our world view and its simply human to do so. the key is to see and realize it. Its part of who we are, unless of course you dont have any care of passion in the issue . then you can be a cool arbiter .

[onawah]

Why are Biden's Senate Records Hidden from the Public?
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"Judicial Watch filed its opening brief in its lawsuit for access to former Vice President Joe Biden’s Senate records at the University of Delaware. The new court filing comes in Judicial Watch and the Daily Caller News Foundation’s lawsuit filed after a Delaware Attorney General’s opinion denied them access to former Vice President Joe Biden’s Senate records, which are housed at the University of Delaware’s library (Daily Caller News Foundation v. University of Delaware (No. N20A-07-001)). The Delaware Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit was filed in the Superior Court of the State of Delaware on July 2, 2020.:
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/biden-senate-records-2/ :
"(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it has filed its opening brief in its lawsuit for access to former Vice President Joe Biden’s Senate records at the University of Delaware. The new court filing comes in Judicial Watch and the Daily Caller News Foundation’s lawsuit filed after a Delaware Attorney General’s opinion denied them access to former Vice President Joe Biden’s Senate records, which are housed at the University of Delaware’s library (Daily Caller News Foundation v. University of Delaware (No. N20A-07-001)). The Delaware Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit was filed in the Superior Court of the State of Delaware on July 2, 2020.

The lawsuit is challenging a state attorney general opinion that the Biden records are not “public records” because, the opinion concludes without evidence, no public funds are used to support the Biden records project at the University of Delaware.

Judicial Watch responded in court that it is impossible for the Biden Senate documents, which are housed in the University of Delaware’s Library to not be supported by public funds. Judicial Watch notes that the University admitted that “the State of Delaware provides the University with approximately $120 million each year through an appropriation in the state budget,” but never shows how public funds are not used to support the papers.

Judicial Watch further points out that “archival storage space and professional staff members’ time are things of value that it can be inferred are paid for with public funds,” and notes that the requests even listed the, “University personnel who maintain the Senatorial Papers whose salaries, it can be inferred, are paid with State funds.” Judicial Watch requests that the Court order the University to search for and produce the requested records.

“Anyone running for public office, especially our highest office, should expect public scrutiny of their record, especially of their public record,” said Daily Caller News Foundation President Neil Patel. “It’s amazing that Joe Biden’s public papers are still sealed and nobody else in the press seems to care. We care and we are going to fight to get these records opened up as they should be.”

“Delaware is hiding, in violation of law, Joe Biden’s Senate records,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “It is time for the University of Delaware to stop protecting Joe Biden and follow Delaware law, which requires them to provide public access to these public records.”

Judicial Watch filed its FOIA lawsuit after the University denied its April 30, 2020, FOIA request for:

All records regarding the proposed release of the records pertaining to former Vice President Joe Biden’s tenure as a Senator that have been housed at the University of Delaware Library since 2012. This request includes all related records of communication between the University of Delaware and any other records created pertaining to any meeting of the Board of Trustees during which the proposed release of the records was discussed.
All records of communication between any representative of the University of Delaware and former Vice President Biden or any other individual acting on his behalf between January 1, 2018 and the present.
On April 30, the Daily Caller News Foundation submitted its FOIA request to the University for:

All agreements concerning the storage of more than 1,850 boxes of archival records and 415 gigabytes of electronic records from Joe Biden’s senate career from 1973 through 2009.
Communications between the staff of the University of Delaware Library and Joe Biden or his senatorial, vice-presidential or political campaign staff, or for anyone representing any of those entities between 2010 [April 30,2020] about Joe Biden’s senate records.
Any logs or sign-in sheets recording any individuals who have visited the special-collections department where records from Joe Biden’s senate career are stored between 2010 to the date of this request.
All records from Joe Biden’s Senate career that have been submitted to the University of Delaware Library.
Tara Reade, who accused Biden of sexually assaulting her in 1993 when she worked as a staff assistant to the then-senator, has said that she believes a workplace discrimination and harassment complaint she filed against Biden at the time may be in the records housed at the University of Delaware. Biden also admitted to communicating with Vladimir Putin and other foreign leaders when he was a United State Senator.

Judicial Watch and the Daily Caller News Foundation are being represented by Delaware lawyers Ted Kittila and Bill Green of Halloran Farkas + Kittila LLP."

[atman]

Since all appears to be a matter of personal perspective, here's a little comic relief for both sides of the aisle:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/cartoons/images/2018/12/12/chip_bok_chip_bok_for_dec_12_2018_5_.jpg

[TargeT]

this is pretty much a fire engine red MAGA forum by this point

I see this as a side effect of bipartisan mesmerization (I rarely do this, but I am directing this comment mostly to you Gracy May).... this board is still highly "(classical) liberal" and any agreeance I see with "MAGA" is just due to overwhelming evidence (mostly against his opposition).

I am (*self admittedly*) a fervent libertarian; there are many things I agree and disagree with on the "right" and "left". This board is definitely very left still; though I do see how you can think it's not on certain topics.

I think we are predispositioned to fall into dichotomy (via social conditioning mostly, tribalism secondarily); politics and religion are some of the best examples of this, though we see echos of this in alternate thoughts and concepts such as what brought up on this board.

I've found the best way to detect this is recognizing when your response is immediate/urgent, vehement and dismissive.

It is a very difficult pattern to break and is the only thing I've found to accurately analogize with addiction.

[Gracy]

gracie may said/
Is it possible that you feel Scientific American is compromised because they disagree with your current world view, and the Police Benevolent Association gets "kudos", because they do agree with your world view?
What if Scientific American had suddenly up and endorsed Trump instead, would they get kudos in that case?

Gracie May/ thats why the problem is the human being itself. I like the sports analogy, you hate the superstar on the other team you hate until he,s traded to your team. Then you love him. we see the world thru our world view and its simply human to do so. the key is to see and realize it. Its part of who we are, unless of course you dont have any care of passion in the issue . then you can be a cool arbiter .

Hiya Doug,

Yes I think your sports superstar analogy is quite the good one! On our team he's a hero, when traded to another team that goes bye bye. Now we boo and hiss when his name is announced as a starter for the invading team.

In "pro" wrestling, there's the "baby faces", and the "heels". Always give 'em something to love, and even better, something they love to hate.

Chuckle, how successful would the old show "Dallas" have been, without that scoundrel J.R. Ewing...

And remember how much we're supposed to hate Al Qaida, and Russia,and China, and Syria, and Iran, and Venezuela, and BLM, and Antifa, and the cops, and the protesters, and Julian Assange, and Sadaam Hussein, and Muamar Gaddafi, and Fidel Castro, and Joe Biden, and Donald Trump, and FOX NEWS, and MSNBC, and, and, and...

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[Sue (Ayt)]

So the "implication" is simply this - re the above tweet. If you're endorsing Biden, you're either A), unobservant, possibly unconscious , or B) [B]utterly comped.

In other words, Scientific American is B). Because there is no C).


Interestingly enough, the Miles Mathis essay that I read last night tends to agree with you, re Scientific America being "utterly comped."
I noted it as coincidence (for me) that the subject came up twice in one day, under two very different aspects. (Miles refers to it as "Un-Scientific America") I always rather enjoyed SA, and their endorsement shocked me a bit.

Miles Mathis essay is here:
The State of the Art
in Physics Propaganda (http://milesmathis.com/dowdo.pdf)

[Chester]

Now we have a President who has brought soldiers home and avoided conflict. No war. And it totally goes un noticed as if its somehow taken for granted.

Which wars has he ended Doug?

Has he also ended the coups, drone strikes, and strangling sanctions that only hurt ordinary people?

Has he stopped going after Julian Assange?

I give him credit for easing the tensions with North Korea, but beyond that I’m not seeing any big changes in the ever aggressive US foreign policy.

First in the last 26 - Peace accords in the Middle East
https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/white-house-event

Nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize
https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-brokering-israel-uae-peace-deal

Brokers deal between Serbia-Kosovo
https://www.voanews.com/europe/us-brokered-serbia-kosovo-deal-step-forward-challenges-remain
and
https://balkaninsight.com/2020/09/10/trumps-serbia-kosovo-deal-middle-easternizes-the-balkans/

and again, Nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize
https://www.intellinews.com/trump-gets-second-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-for-serbia-kosovo-economic-normalisation-deal-191768/?source=serbia

Always pushing to reduce troops (Pelosi and the establishment from both parties always works to stand in the way)
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/04/trump-suggests-us-troop-levels-in-afghanistan-could-be-cut-in-half-by-election-day/

Pushing all the time to reduce troops in Afghanistan and Iraq
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/politics/us-troops-afghanistan/index.html
and
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/09/iraq-troop-withdrawl-410723
and
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2020/08/trump-us-withdraw-4k-troops-afghanistan-election/167456/
and
https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-reducing-troop-size-iraq-3000/story?id=72896857
and
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2020/08/trump-us-withdraw-4k-troops-afghanistan-election/167456/

Reduced troops in Germany
https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-reducing-troop-size-iraq-3000/story?id=72896857

[Gracy]

Now we have a President who has brought soldiers home and avoided conflict. No war. And it totally goes un noticed as if its somehow taken for granted.

Which wars has he ended Doug?

Has he also ended the coups, drone strikes, and strangling sanctions that only hurt ordinary people?

Has he stopped going after Julian Assange?

I give him credit for easing the tensions with North Korea, but beyond that I’m not seeing any big changes in the ever aggressive US foreign policy.

First in the last 26 - Peace accords in the Middle East
https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/white-house-event

Nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize
https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/trump-nominated-nobel-peace-prize-brokering-israel-uae-peace-deal

Brokers deal between Serbia-Kosovo
https://www.voanews.com/europe/us-brokered-serbia-kosovo-deal-step-forward-challenges-remain
and
https://balkaninsight.com/2020/09/10/trumps-serbia-kosovo-deal-middle-easternizes-the-balkans/

and again, Nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize
https://www.intellinews.com/trump-gets-second-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-for-serbia-kosovo-economic-normalisation-deal-191768/?source=serbia

Always pushing to reduce troops (Pelosi and the establishment from both parties always works to stand in the way)
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/04/trump-suggests-us-troop-levels-in-afghanistan-could-be-cut-in-half-by-election-day/

Pushing all the time to reduce troops in Afghanistan and Iraq
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/26/politics/us-troops-afghanistan/index.html
and
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/09/iraq-troop-withdrawl-410723
and
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2020/08/trump-us-withdraw-4k-troops-afghanistan-election/167456/
and
https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-reducing-troop-size-iraq-3000/story?id=72896857
and
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2020/08/trump-us-withdraw-4k-troops-afghanistan-election/167456/

Reduced troops in Germany
https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-reducing-troop-size-iraq-3000/story?id=72896857

I know your heart is in the right place Chester, but lists of Presidential "achievements" aren't really worth a whole lot except to people who are big fans. Unless maybe you're willing to sing the praises of accomplishments from these guys as well, then at least we'll have some consistency.

Bill Clinton:

Longest economic expansion in American history
More than 22 million new jobs
Highest homeownership in American history
Lowest unemployment in 30 years
Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years
100,000 more police for our streets
Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
Protected millions of acres of American land
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families own stock than ever before
Most diverse cabinet in American history
https://clintonwhitehouse5.archives.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-01.html

Barack Obama:

Passed Health Care Reform
Passed Health Care Reform
Passed Wall Street Reform
Negotiated a Deal to Block A Nuclear Iran
Secured U.S. Commitment to a Global Agreement on Climate Change
Eliminated Osama bin Laden
Ended U.S. Combat Missions in Iraq and Afghanistan
Turned Around the U.S. Auto Industry
Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’’
Supported Federal Recognition of Same-Sex Marriages
Reversed Bush Torture Policies
Established Rules to Limit Carbon Emissions from Power Plants
Normalized Relations with Cuba
Put Medicare on Sounder Financial Footing
Protected DREAMers from Deportation
Established Net Neutrality
Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court
Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards
Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Funding
Improved America’s Image Abroad
Left His Mark on the Federal Judiciary

And on and on and on. Yawn...
https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/januaryfebruary-2017/obamas-top-50-accomplishments-revisited/

[thepainterdoug]

Remember because we are human, WE GET TO "BE" HUMAN.
My sports analogy does'nt mean we wont see right or wrong, good or bad, better or worse or winner and looser.
We are faced with making a choice between two things in this election as in much of life. a choice of one or the other.

For me ,being an anti war guy that always dreamed of the day we would stop these wars all over the world killing people we dont see . And now we have, and people dont seem to care , give it meaning, or any credit the President who did so. Amazing!! And well beyond this, there isnt even a choice here because I dont even know what better good is planned for us with Biden.

They only stood for 4 years on get rid of Trump. And sorry, Biden is unfit for office plain and simple. and in my mind thats why they chose him, to put on deck the VP as their real choice for President. Thats a bait and switch I dont think anyone should go for.

[Gracy]

Hey Doug, what wars has Trump ended again? I hear the lip service, and see him playing yo yo with numbers of troops on the ground same as other presidents, but much like the lip service I hear from him about being a champion for the forgotten man while Julian Assange rots in prison because of him, I'm seeing no action to back up the campaign rhetoric.

Perhaps you can set me straight on what I'm missing here?

[Chester]

ahhh ok, lists... (put together mostly by Peronneau Vandehey)

Besides the single thing that is a first for a Presidential 4 year term - NO NEW WARS along with a clear intent (and significant progress) towards a draw down of troops in war theaters created by and inherited from previous presidents including Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and Bush 43...

Trump signed three bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.

Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.
Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.

Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the two years before he was elected.

Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.

Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.

Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.

Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.

Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.

Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding moms.

The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country’s highest-paid workers.

Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay.

Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land.

Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean.

He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.

Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much less providers charge insurance companies.

When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.

Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.

In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.

He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.

VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.

Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.

Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, in 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.

Trump signed into a law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.

Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.

All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.

Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price.

President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.

In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill which enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.

The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.

The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in sentencing of non-violent crimes.
Over 90% of those benefiting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans.

The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.

Trump increased funding for historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%.

Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.
New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.

Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.

Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.

The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.

Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.

President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund.

Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.
[Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all time high.

[Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] More than 7 million jobs created since election.

[Prior to the unexpected coronavirus pandemic] More Americans were employed than ever recorded before in our history.

More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.
Trump appointed five openly gay ambassadors.

Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.

Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.

In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.

Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking.

Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.

Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.

The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.

Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.

The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.

President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.

The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.

The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.
Under his leadership ISIS has lost most of their territory and been largely dismantled.
ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.

Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.

Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.
Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.

Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.

President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.

Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.
Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.

Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.
Withdrew the U.S. from the job killing TPP deal.

Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.

Okay’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.
Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.

Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.

Trump secured billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.

The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.

Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.

President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country.
8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones.

Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country.

Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core.

Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law.

Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide.

Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] manufacturing jobs were growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] the stock market reached record highs.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Median household income hit highest level ever recorded.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] African-American unemployment is at an all time low.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all time low.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Asian-American unemployment is at an all time low.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] women’s unemployment rate was at a 65-year low.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] We had the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded.

The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses.

Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare.

Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.

Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.

Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.

Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.

Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East.

The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign.

Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in Carbon emissions.

Has his circuit court judge nominees being confirmed faster than any other new administration.

Had his Supreme Court Justice’s Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh confirmed.

Moved U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

Agreed to a new trade deal with Mexico & Canada that will increase jobs here and $$$ coming in.

Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.

Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices, has agreed to a Part One trade deal with China.

Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.

Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act signed into law by Trump doubled the maximum amount of the child tax credit available to parents and lifted the income limits so more people could claim it.

It also created a new tax credit for other dependents.

In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding increase for the Child Care and Development Fund, providing a total of $8.1 billion to States to fund child care for low-income families.

The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit (CDCTC) signed into law by Trump provides a tax credit equal to 20-35% of child care expenses, $3,000 per child & $6,000 per family + Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs) allow you to set aside up to $5,000 in pre-tax $ to use for child care.

In 2019 President Donald Trump signed the Autism Collaboration, Accountability, Research, Education and Support Act (CARES) into law which allocates $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years to help people with autism spectrum disorder and to help their families.

In 2019 President Trump signed into law two funding packages providing nearly $19 million in new funding for Lupus specific research and education programs, as well an additional $41.7 billion in funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the most Lupus funding EVER.

Another upcoming accomplishment to add: In the next week or two Trump will be signing the first major anti-robocall law in decades called the TRACED Act (Telephone Robocall Abuse Criminal Enforcement and Deterrence.) Once it’s the law, the TRACED Act will extend the period of time the FCC has to catch & punish those who intentionally break telemarketing restrictions. The bill also requires voice service providers to develop a framework to verify calls are legitimate before they reach your phone.

[Prior to the coronavirus pandemic] US stock market continually hit all-time record highs.

Because so many people asked for a document with all of this listed in one place, here it is. No links provided to remove bias as Google search is easy. Print this out for family, friends, neighbors, etc. I encourage you to drop this list off to voters before the 2020 election too!

Trump did all of this while fighting flagrant abuse and impeachment charges.
Please explain to me why you have a problem with OUR president? Because he has misspoke a few times? Tell me when you find a perfect person, please….I’ll wait!

I’ll tell you why, because the media has skewed him in such a negative light and unfairly report his accomplishments to undermine those achievements! Why? Because the media is complicit in every single thing this man is trying to undo!

Start thinking for yourself!

[thepainterdoug]

Great chester!!! Thanks for posting

[Gracy]

Another great copy/paste Chester, and still no clarifications about all the continued persecution of Julian Assange, the supposed ended wars, black ops, and strangling sanctions for those who refuse to bend the knee to empire.

Is this the best we can do?

As to the “Start thinking for yourself!” ending?

Pfffttt...

[ClearWater]

Wars often happen on levels that most are not even aware of.

The press conference from the DOD yesterday refers to Directed Energy Weapons and Cyber Warfare as just a couple of the methods, and I'm quite positive there are many more that nobody will speak of publicly.

With that in mind, I cannot say with certainty that President Trump has not gotten the US involved in any new wars during his presidency.

I do know that he hasn't used war as a re-election tool, in the way that so many presidents before him have.

[thepainterdoug]

Gracie May. I need to correct myself. I have been saying Trump "ended" wars, where I meant he hasn't ,started any. I don't really know the truth of the application"ended" regarding war and conflict. It could be sanctions, and pressures other than direct killing that continues and your term war could include all, which is certainly fair.

And for that matter, I don't really know the truth of the application or the word "started" as all thru history war has gone on by humans and can be traced forward to this very day
So we need to excuse the exacts and accept the "in general" term here . Thats how I mean it. And if that cant be accepted, then we may as well close up shop on all language as it is never truly agreed upon.

humans, were doing our best

[Jayke]

Biden reportedly under fire in a criminal court case in Ukraine. https://mobile.twitter.com/my3monkees/status/13064496968362762241306449696836276224

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Is it possible that you feel Scientific American is compromised because they disagree with your current world view, and the Police Benevolent Association gets "kudos", because they do agree with your world view?

It's not the right question. It's far too limiting and naïve to believe that political 'agreement or disagreement' in media, publishing, or corporate circles exists. It's down to who's having their strings pulled, who sits in whose pocket. Scientific American are obviously being leaned on to endorse Biden. That's as clear as a clear blue sky. As a widely read publication they have the power to sway minds, and to win votes. They don't give opinions, they supply narratives - that's what the media IS!

And yes both sides have benefactors and special interests lobbying for them. But in this election cycle there's another variable to that equation, and it should be obvious what it is: Biden, like Obama, like the Clintons and the Bushes, are establishment, the status quo, the war machine, the powers that be – the swamp. Trump is not. Since he came into office he has done, as he himself would say, many tremendous things. See Chester's post, and snort away if you wish, but those are his accomplishments - and I believe there are many more we don't even know about. But the long and short of it: Scientific American have shown themselves to be swamp controlled.




This is a fight against the complete destruction of the West. End of.

No, it's not, but certain people are sure creating that illusion.

"Creating" that illusion? I'm very sorry you think it's an illusion, and that we here are somehow "creating" it. If the overwhelming evidence piled mountain high on this forum doesn't convince you that we are in a fight against an oncoming dystopian hell, then nothing more I can say ever will.


this is not the epic "Good vs. Evil”

Yes it is, but we can agree to disagree. :)



while the other side gets all their news FOX, OANN, InfoWars, X22, and right wing political hacks?

I don't get my news from Fox, it doesn't screen in the UK for a start. Although I do appreciate the Tucker Carlson clips I've seen. I think his reporting is probably closer to the actual truth than any other mainstream media outlet. No mainstream reporter or journalist in the UK is even in the same universe as him. All our media are soulless marionettes, programmed to say the same words and beat the same drum - every channel, every paper, every day. And all of it is "orange man bad" without one single deviation in the last fours years. Not one. The historic middle-east peace deal Trump signed this week didn't not only make the headlines, it didn't even feature in 'additional news'. It was media blackout (no one I know is even aware that it happened). That, is the media. That is the swamp.

And I don't watch Infowars, or X22 hope porn.

I wish you could see it from my side of the pond, Gracy. We don't live in a democracy here. We don't have any Trump 'outsiders to the system' over here. We are ruled by a monarchy, and by the fat, rich, pedophilic atrocity called Westminster and the City of London. We don't have a Republic, we don't have a Constitution, we don't even have Free Speech. It's not legally recognised, and it certainly isn't honoured - it can in fact be severely punished. I admire and indeed am envious of your system. Ours is a broken record that's been playing for 500 years and more. Thousands, millions, fled this country to escape it, to begin again and create America. I don't hate my country, there are wonderful people here, but our system, its institutions, the body politic, are archaic, monolithic and never, ever changing.

That's what we want out of. That's why we look to another way – a hugely increasing number of us. The place this increasing number are looking to is your side of the pond. And yeh, to Trump. If the operating system is corrupt you have to reformat, reload, and reboot. I believe, and we increasingly believe, Trump is offering that new operating system, one that could hopefully spread worldwide.

And you should know, I'm classically left leaning, classically liberal. In 2008 I was ALL behind Obama. I thought he was a beacon of light, that ray of hope for the world we'd all been waiting for. I was excited and optimistic when he won. As I've said many times, it's not so much the party that interests me or sways me, it's the character and integrity of he or she who holds the key positions that's important. I was wrong about Obama, very wrong - we all were.

Idealistic? Maybe. But truthfully, honestly, I believe Trump is the only hope we have.

[thepainterdoug]

All those who are anti Trump and for Biden, please sell me on the Harris/Biden admin. How would you sell me? Im still trying to understand for 4 years who or what they are for other than getting rid of Trump? And keep in mind Im a lifelong Lib Democrat voter .

The only platform for America I started to hear from the Biden camp was, to bring jobs back and invest in America. Sound familar ?

American in my mind is a Country that , once entered legally, you can sit on your ass or you can make a Million. Its up to you. Its based on merit, free market and competition with an assortment of freedoms and perks added along the way.
As I have always said, its the best of all bad systems because the Human is not quite ready to come into the light for any communal, "we are one" paradigm

so no Trump??? please tell me why Biden?

[Gracy]

Alright you guys, I'm going to go ahead and get out of the way of this rolling Trump Train. Hopefully I didn't ruffle too many feathers in voicing my questions and concerns, but somebody had to do it because I really do see a big potential problem here with the attitude that there's nothing needing questioning, assuming everything the home team does is pure, and in the feeling that one is on god's side so to speak in this supposed epic battle of good vs. evil.

If y'all think the only way Trump can lose is by "the bad guys" cheating, then that makes both sides unlikely to concede because who in their right mind concedes, in a life and death street fight. This potentially means big trouble no matter who really wins, I'm just glad I'm well supplied, locked and loaded, and live outside the city.

I'm still thinking more and more that we're being set up for this. Like Chris Martenson always says "it didn't have to be this way", but here we are so that's where I'll leave it.

See you on the other side :)


P.S. FWIW Doug, I don't care for any of these politicians strutting and lying their way across my tv screen every day, that includes Joe Biden and company.

[TargeT]

so no Trump??? please tell me why Biden?

I've found no answer other than "not trump" and some strangely veiled threats about he violence continuing if trump is re-elected.. so maybe there's that? less riots?



Alright you guys, I'm going to go ahead and get out of the way of this rolling Trump Train..

Kick over the can and run eh?

[Chester]

Another great copy/paste Chester, and still no clarifications about all the continued persecution of Julian Assange, the supposed ended wars, black ops, and strangling sanctions for those who refuse to bend the knee to empire.

Is this the best we can do?

As to the “Start thinking for yourself!” ending?

Pfffttt...

Here's what the Obama administration's Secretary of State said regarding the prospects of Middle East Peace -

https://mobile.twitter.com/neontaster/status/1306377971863871489

Yet Trump gets it rolling (Saudi's are next...and four more are on tap) - What are the Iranian Mullah's going to do when they find themselves isolated? What will the good folks of Iran who want the Mullah's gone do?

Thanks Trump!

And regarding Assange - that chapter ain't over yet. But what's been maintained by the DNC and the "cops on the take" and a "DNC mouthpiece media" is what everyone else already makes book on... Seth Rich got the ball rolling and Assange put out a $20K reward for any info leading to the capture and conviction of Rich's murderer.

As for healthcare - Obama Care was a sellout to the medical cartel and everyone knows it. Who wants insurance for mainstream western medicine anyways? And under what "right" foes anyone have to force someone like me to pay for FraudCare and Western Death Technology via some government mandate?

Thanks Trump for eviscerating it! And thanks for exposing fake conservatives like McCain who (we knew all along) was Washington "owned" "establishment.

[Chester]

This is a fight against the complete destruction of the West. End of.



No, it's not, but certain people are sure creating that illusion.



"Creating" that illusion? I'm very sorry you think it's an illusion, and that we here are somehow "creating" it. If the overwhelming evidence piled mountain high on this forum doesn't convince you that we are in a fight against an oncoming dystopian hell, then nothing more I can say ever will.


Thanks Star Mariner...

and to those who can read this thread (which is everyone) -

And when one plays a primary, functional role in "information management," then who is doing the creating? Who is managing the illusion they wish others to "believe" via their manipulation of what can be seen and by who? and what cannot be seen and by who?

[Chester]

Alright you guys, I'm going to go ahead and get out of the way of this rolling Trump Train. Hopefully I didn't ruffle too many feathers in voicing my questions and concerns, but somebody had to do it because I really do see a big potential problem here with the attitude that there's nothing needing questioning, assuming everything the home team does is pure, and in the feeling that one is on god's side so to speak in this supposed epic battle of good vs. evil.

I don't "do" religion and if you wish to label me - call me a perennialist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy). My world view is neutral minism.



If y'all think the only way Trump can lose is by "the bad guys" cheating, then that makes both sides unlikely to concede because who in their right mind concedes, in a life and death street fight.

That's the reason the extreme radical left made it such... its the rest of us that have called it out.



This potentially means big trouble no matter who really wins, I'm just glad I'm well supplied, locked and loaded, and live outside the city.

Yep, its one of the stages (and goals) of a color revolution. Look who so happens to be playing a major role in this version of a color revolution? - Obama's White House ethics czar - Norm Eisen -
Revolver Exclusive — Meet Norm Eisen: Legal Hatchet Man and Central Operative in the “Color Revolution” Against President Trump
https://www.revolver.news/2020/09/meet-norm-eisen-legal-hatchet-man-and-central-operative-in-the-color-revolution-against-president-trump/



I'm still thinking more and more that we're being set up for this. Like Chris Martenson always says "it didn't have to be this way", but here we are so that's where I'll leave it.

Correct... and I just highlighted one of the primary current architects and managers of this operation.



P.S. FWIW Doug, I don't care for any of these politicians strutting and lying their way across my tv screen every day, that includes Joe Biden and company.

But we are still faced with making sure the worst choice isn't the one who obtains (or retains) power. And that's what all these posts are all about.

[atman]

We can all relax, now.

It was always because of the Martians, uh the Russians.

Directly from the donkey's mouth, as recorded on video during his testimony before the House Homeland Security Committee, this morning:



https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1306588609273880576


That Twitter thread offers more words of "wisdom" from the most senior official of the FBI (who sent, a few months ago, 15 federal agents to investigate a "noose" in a garage, while seemingly ignoring the riots that have been tearing some cities of the U.S. apart):




FBI Dir. Wray: Get your voting information from official websites, not social media

FBI Dir. Wray confirms that white supremacists make up the largest share of racially motivated terrorists in the United States

[thepainterdoug]

OK GRACIE MAY. got it and thats fine Its basically, cant stand Trump. I have said many times over the years on many post that we have gotten exactly what we deserve. I witnessed the dumbing down of America for many years, History channel being turned into sensationalist garbage, shows like Mob houswives, The Kardashians , the situation , honey boo boo , total reality show garbage, fake, canned, and eaten up by the public who showed by ratings $$$ they would eat more and more , rather than Science,NOVA , Humanities , Classical arts ,Music and higher learning.

Donald Trump, entertainer, PT Barnum Tv personality comes along and was perfect timing. He worked with Vince McMann in Pro wrestling, the epitome of rehearsed fake , actually honest real fake, and guess what , HE WON !! He beat out all the other all B **** CAREER POLITICIANS, and in doing so , then also actually did a better job in a short 4 years then thay all did in their careers .

Look again at Chesters list of things he has gotten done!! its incredible, 1.8 Billion for Autism?? The so called NAZI? And thats why they hate him! And thats why I will never again vote for any of these corrupt useless and disgusting people that represent that Dem party today. Doesnt matter what TRUMP does, people drank the coolaid and cant see past the hate. Best thing that could happen is Trump wins, and then the Democratic party rebuilds into what it once stood for and goes for the next election

[atman]

Best thing that could happen is Trump wins, and then the Democratic party rebuilds into what it once stood for and goes for the next election

As an outsider — a stupid Canadian, eh, who should not try and opiniate on American politics, eh — I completely agree with this statement of yours, Doug. Even though politics is perhaps an overrated factor in the whole scheme of things, I do believe that what you have proposed would be the best outcome.

The Democratic Party has changed a lot during the past decade, perhaps irremediably so. Andrew Jackson and John F. Kennedy, to name only those two past Democratic presidents, would not recognize it today. They would most likely disavow it.

I sincerely hope that Joe Biden and the Democratic Party, in this current election cycle, are defeated and burnt to the ground. The Party can then work to slowly rise from its own ashes so as to become, once again, a complementary or adversarial voice of reason. Right now, it is mostly crybaby lunacy.

Very many people, in the past few years, have stated: "I did not leave the Democratic Party, it left me".

I am including a few short videos that exemplify and bring light to that conundrum and that, as far as this thread is concerned, can help one answer: Why Biden? (or, oppositely, why Trump?)

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[Bill Ryan]

I am including a few short videos that exemplify and bring light to that conundrum and that, as far as this thread is concerned, can help one answer: Why Biden? (or, oppositely, why Trump?)

And this, from Keri Smith: (She's a classic old-fashioned liberal, so that's why she's voting for Trump.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR46Lo_0Vos

[T Smith]

I don't think you need be trying to walk on egg shells with your opinions Star, this is pretty much a fire engine red MAGA forum by this point anyway, and I'm no shrinking violet. :)



Give us a Tulsi Gabbard on the left and that just might change.... but that's just not how the DNC rolls--nor the RNC before DJT steamrolled the party into submission with well-overdue non-partisan populist politics (for all intents and purposes).

I know it's unpopular with some members of the forum to park the bright-red fire engine in the drive, but as a non-partisan observer that's just the way I see it. That said, we count on you, Gracy, to keep us in check if we ever start reeving that fire engine just a little too hot :)

[Gracy]

I don't think you need be trying to walk on egg shells with your opinions Star, this is pretty much a fire engine red MAGA forum by this point anyway, and I'm no shrinking violet. :)



Give us a Tulsi Gabbard on the left and that just might change.... but that's just not how the DNC rolls--nor the RNC before DJT steamrolled the party into submission with well-overdue non-partisan populist politics (for all intents and purposes).

I know it's unpopular with some members of the forum to park the bright-red fire engine in the drive, but as a non-partisan observer that's just the way I see it. That said, we count on you, Gracy, to keep us in check if we ever start reeving that fire engine just a little too hot :)

Thanks T Smith, very concise and diplomatic. :)

The DNC has long since shown their true colors in how they outlaw any semblance of the traditional left amongst their ranks, and show their asses on a daily basis, the only reason I've never really commented on that is because there's never been any need to here, it's already out there in spades.

Reminds of the hollow carcass Neil Young describes in "The Needle and the Damage Done". Yep, that's today's democratic party, a setting sun.


I've seen the needle and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's like a settin' sun
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Now as to the keep us is check part, that's what I just concluded, as IMO that horse done left the barn already which is why I'm done. I see a disaster of equal proportions lining up on this new hard right wing, fire engine red Trump phenomena, and recent comments have been my way of ringing the warning bell, against all odds, that danger lies straight ahead in it's unquestioning, and ever increasing intensity.

There can be only one, and all are compelled to choose a side in what I consider to be a false, either or choice.

[thepainterdoug]

Gracie May/ were in grammar school and the teacher gives us a choice between the Hershey chocolate factory and the Museum of Natural history.

Hands go up. Your smart, and know its all nonsense and so keep your hand down. The vote is cast and you abstain.

Well, your all off to the chocolate factory. Enjoy the sweets.

[Bill Ryan]

Thought for the day. (Or rather, a wild conjecture :) )

The Democrats have a real huge problem, clearly. How do they make it go away??

Well, one movie-script scenario is that Biden is killed off. (Sorry! No easy way to say that. :flower:) In one of two ways:


They create a heart attack or stroke. Problem solved. (Regardless of the rights or wrongs of this, it'd be easy to do. And all the voting Dems would believe it was fortunate happenstance, clearing the way for Kamala + a new VP, that could even be Hillary.)
He's assassinated by "a deranged Trump supporter" — a false flag, of course. Problem solved again, and maybe even two problems: as then Trump supporters get vilified and branded as dangerous armed lunatics.

[Sarah Rainsong]

Thought for the day. (Or rather, a wild conjecture :) )

The Democrats have a real huge problem, clearly. How do they make it go away??

Well, one movie-script scenario is that Biden is killed off. (Sorry! No easy way to say that. :flower:) In one of two ways:


They create a heart attack or stroke. Problem solved. (Regardless of the rights or wrongs of this, it'd be easy to do. And all the voting Dems would believe it was fortunate happenstance, clearing the way for Kamala + a new VP, that could even be Hillary.)
He's assassinated by "a deranged Trump supporter" — a false flag, of course. Problem solved again, and maybe even two problems: as then Trump supporters get vilified and branded as dangerous armed lunatics.


Help me out, what exactly is the "huge problem" that needs to go away? Sincerely not trying to be obtuse :flower: But if you're talking about Biden, he's already a tool! Why do they need to get rid of him? He'll do exactly what "they" want. There's no reason to get rid of him quickly. They could even let him go for the full four year term. The only issue is his mental health, but I think they'll manage that for while yet, through the election, the inauguration and into next year at least.

If Biden goes away, I don't think it'll because he's a problem they need to specifically get out of the way. It will be to usher in something else.

[Bill Ryan]

Help me out, what exactly is the "huge problem" that needs to go away? Sincerely not trying to be obtuse :flower: Well, Biden does have early-onset dementia. My Dad, once an impressively strong man, was felled by Alzheimer's. I'm seeing exactly the same signs and symptoms here. Many people can see it clearly. It's really as plain as day.

Having a President who has the cognitive ability of a child is rather like a bad (and possibly cruel) Monty Python sketch. And you can't have a President that everyone's making Monty Python jokes about — all over the world.

When my Dad was suffering, I counseled my Mom that she HAD to see him as a child, and not any more as her husband. Her husband was just gone. That reframing really helped her cope a lot.

(Do see this excellent thread, by the way: Caring for relatives with Alzheimer's : the modern curse of the elderly (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78069-Caring-for-relatives-with-Alzheimer-s-the-modern-curse-of-the-elderly))

It's tragic — every Alzheimer's case is — but the truth is that he simply can't function. And while he'll have good days and bad days (as all Alzheimer's patients do), it'll only get steadily worse. And maybe even rapidly worse.

The current problem the Democrats have, I think, is that in purely pragmatic terms he may be unelectable now, even by their own faithful voters. They may simply feel, strategically, that they have a better chance of defeating Trump if he's no longer the presidential candidate. But if so, they have very little time to do anything about it.

[Sarah Rainsong]

Help me out, what exactly is the "huge problem" that needs to go away? Sincerely not trying to be obtuse :flower: Well, Biden does have early-onset dementia. My Dad, once an impressively strong man, was felled by Alzheimer's. I'm seeing exactly the same signs and symptoms here. Many people can see it clearly. It's really as plain as day.

Having a President who has the cognitive ability of a child is rather like a bad (and possibly cruel) Monty Python sketch. And you can't have a President that everyone's making Monty Python jokes about — all over the world.

When my Dad was suffering, I counseled my Mom that she HAD to see him as a child, and not any more as her husband. Her husband was just gone. That reframing really helped her cope a lot.

(Do see this excellent thread, by the way: Caring for relatives with Alzheimer's : the modern curse of the elderly (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78069-Caring-for-relatives-with-Alzheimer-s-the-modern-curse-of-the-elderly))

It's tragic — every Alzheimer's case is — but the truth is that he simply can't function. And while he'll have good days and bad days (as all Alzheimer's patients do), it'll only get steadily worse. And maybe even rapidly worse.

The current problem the Democrats have, I think, is that in purely pragmatic terms he may be unelectable now, even by their own faithful voters. They may simply feel, strategically, that they have a better chance of defeating Trump if he's no longer the presidential candidate. But if so, they have very little time to do anything about it.

Agreed. Everyone sees that. I just don't think the Dems are worried about Biden's elect-ability at all. It's never been about that. They're entire campaign has never been about being for something. It's only about "how bad Trump is" and "we have to get him out at all costs."

So I just don't see Biden being something they're worried about prior to the inauguration. They probably chose him because of his mental decline, thinking he'd be the perfect tool and easily discarded whenever they want after he's in office. Which leads us back to what everyone knew before Biden even picked his VP--if you vote for Biden, you're not actually voting for Biden as president. You're voting for his VP and the Democrat party--and especially whatever they want.

For most voters IMO, it's all about Trump or not-Trump. How bad do you want Trump out of office? Personally, I think the Dems have shot themselves in the foot. I think many would-be Democrats will skip the hassle of voting than they will vote for not-Trump.

But I could be wrong. And Gracy is right, this false either-or choice is really being hammered home right now. People are being driven to pick a side, and that is going to be our biggest downfall. Tyranny lives in a dichotomy like that. Freedom lives in respecting people's choices even if you don't agree with them.

[Bill Ryan]

But I could be wrong. And Gracy is right, this false either-or choice is really being hammered home right now. People are being driven to pick a side, and that is going to be our biggest downfall. Tyranny lives in a dichotomy like that. Freedom lives in respecting people's choices even if you don't agree with them.I love you dearly! :heart: But yes, I think you're wrong.

The either-or choice, which is a real one, is what side of the culture war you're on. One side of the culture war will remove all your freedoms as sure as if there were Nazi stormtroopers on the streets.

Maybe not next week. But just wait till next year. Even Avalon could be canceled... don't you see? This is realism. Not paranoia.

So yes, it's a war. And for sure, I've taken a side. It's not about "MAGA hats". That's glib, not very funny, and inaccurate. ( :heart: >> Gracy May, too.)

I'm an old-fashioned Liberal... or a Libertarian, depending on how the terms are defined. And that's why IF I were an American, I'd be driving 200 miles (if I had to) to vote for Trump. What happens in America from 2020—2024 may greatly affect the rest of the world.

So for me, it totally matters. It's a referendum for freedom.

NOT voting is like saying that you don't care what happens. But surely, you do.

But — Why Biden...?? :)

:focus:

[PurpleLama]

I also agree with the false choice, but this is nothing new. I heard Freeman Fly lay it out a very long time ago, during Obama's first term, that the long term plan was to remove all public faith in the office of the elected president. Clinton was impeached but did not resign and was not removed from office. Bush was placed in the presidency by the Supreme Court in the aftermath of the hanging chads of Florida, when the constitution puts such decision making within the purview of Congress. Obama was elected, yet was ineligible as per the Birther conspiracy. Now we have Trump, and I see the upcoming election as a great show of division, with a third of the populace being thoroughly disenfranchised very much by design, regardless of what happens in a few months.

While many people take up the race to either/or, it is simply next level conspiritorial thinking that keeps grasping at the fact that the same machinations lie behind both sides of the political powers in the USA, and for that, Gracy is by no means incorrect. For me, the jury is still out on whether Trump is just controlled opposition, as my gut says so all the while the bile and hatred shown to him by the Left is not something to be faked on such a scale as we can readily observe.

That said, the media blitz leading up to his election in 2016 against him can be seen as some massive manipulation and mind control, not to beat him in an election but to sow the potential for chaos in the current time, 4 years ahead and they never let up in the meantime.

Just never forget that the forces of manipulation arrayed against the whole of society, indeed against the whole of civilization, operate in a longer term format than individual people ever tend to operate within. The plans for this year may well be the culmination of projects going back 50 years or more.

I wonder if the show we are seeing isn't to ram Biden into office amidst a heavily contested election, to provoke Trump's gun toting, conservative base to revolt in earnest, thereby furthering the anti-2nd amendment agenda more than we ever could have imagined.

[TargeT]

the long term plan was to remove all public faith in the office of the elected president.


Biden seems to fit that goal very well.. but at the same time I feel it's not being done with the usual patience and finesse, these moves seem sloppy and obvious; rushed even.


I was assuming someone would have a bit of info on biden and his campaign by now...

best I can find is 2 stances... Climate change & get Trump out (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/elections/joe-biden.html)...


Both are ridiculous and seem heavily D.S. influenced.

[TravelerJim]

Great discussion, thank you.

The first debate is schedule for September 29th, which is 11 days away. I don't see how the Dems let Biden on the stage. It would give liberals the chance to watch Biden for 90 minutes, and they would see what shape he is really in. Plus, Trump has been behaving as of late and would create the impression of being quite reasonable, and this would help him with the voters who are told consistently what a nut he is.

So something could/should happen in the next 11 days. If the debate does move forward, what a show it will be.....

[thepainterdoug]

good observations all. Bill I agree on your assessment of Biden . Personally I do wish him well in his later years. We are all headed there.

I am a bit pissed at N Pelosi with her comment, she wouldn't dignify the President with a debate. REALLY??

Hello Nancy, its for the people of this country, not for you to favor or not favor. We are owed several debates in order to suss out the reality here.

[atman]

More troubling than Biden's nomination, to me, is the (seemingly) blind enthusiasm and the childish arrogance coming from his surrogates and some of his supporters.

Aren't there adults in the room? Don't they see how absurd his candidacy is? (Although, to be fair, some would ask the very same question about Trump.)

My understanding of the whole political charade is limited, but I do see clearly that this election is way more than a choice between Biden and Trump.

I generally think that elections do not matter much: some different flavor of the same junk food gets to become the dominant flavor, every four years.

But this particular presidential election is different. If Biden and the Democrats win the election, retain the House and also take control of the Senate, they will be in a position to radically change America... in a very bad way.

And so, like Bill in one of his posts above, I see this election as a war between two diametrically opposed visions for the future.

We are indeed at a critical junction in history. And the result of this election will have an impact on us all, in every continent. It will either accelerate the implementation of the One World Order agenda, with all that it entails politically, scientifically, socially and culturally... or it will slow it down further (even if only momentarily, although one would wish that it could be forever halted).

And so, why Biden?

Perhaps because his Party sees him as the archetype of the Old Wise Man. Or rather, in his case, as the archetype of the Old Grandpa, whose gaffes we tenderly forgive and with whom we smile when he tells us: "I got hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun and the kids used to reach in the pool and rub my leg down and watch the hair come back up again!"

To use some of the insults directed at Trump by his opponents, Biden could be but a "useful idiot" and a "clueless pawn" who is being manipulated and used (and even abused) not by foreign forces, but by his very own Party.

Let us say that Biden is irrelevant, or at best a puppet. The possibilty of his becoming the next president of the United States is still a frightening proposition, not simply because of who his vice-president would be, but because of the hard-left agenda that his party is eager to implement. (And, yes, a hard-right agenda would be as bad.)

Along that line, am I wrong to believe that one of the primary objectives of the Democratic Party (joined by the merry-band of neocons from the Republican Party who have enthusiastically endorsed Biden) is to bring about more drastic societal and economic control under the false pretense of more justice, more security and more peace, while further solidifying the already-entrenched power of the D.C. elite and of the federal bureaucracy, aka the "swamp"?

Not to forget (and worth repeating), their declared intent to bring about America 2.0 — the motto of which one can already hear: "In Critical Race Theory We Trust"!

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The additional musings that follow could be considered too distant from the question at hand (Why Biden?), so you may want to skip them.

The Democratic Party, from what I understand, sees the institution of government as a father figure that must continue to assert and exert his power and dominance over his children, even once they are in adulthood. The forever children, i.e. the democratic electorate, will not only happily obey all the rules put forth by Big Papa, they will also demand that more rules be created and enforced for the government to control all areas of their lives. (I know that it is very unfair to depict anything with such broad strokes, so for those who are reading this, please consider my musings as simply caricatures.)

Looking at the some of the core political, social and cultural ideas and values that it has embraced over the past decade, I find the current Democratic platform — along with its mouthpieces in the media, the tech world, the arts, etc. — to be a regressive agenda manifesting itself into a virulent societal disease: The infantilization of Western culture (https://theconversation.com/the-infantilization-of-western-culture-99556).




"Can entire societies succumb to infantilization?

Frankfurt School scholars such as Herbert Marcuse, Erich Fromm and other critical theorists suggest that – like individuals – a society can also suffer from arrested development.

In their view, adults’ failure to reach emotional, social or cognitive maturity is not due to individual shortcomings.

Rather, it is socially engineered."

We can find examples of infantilization on both sides of the political aisle, of course, but I think most would agree that it is much more prevalent within the Democratic Party than it is in the Republican Party. So many recent examples come to mind... And I'm not even thinking here of those young adults who throw tantrums while screaming Orange Man Bad!

Within the following excerpts, taken from the article linked above, don't we all recognize important aspects of today's dominant culture (dominant, that is, for perhaps half of the population), a so-called "progressive" culture that the Democratic Party has not only fully espoused, but has also declared as being, from now on, the only morally acceptable culture for America?




"As contemporary scholars note, however, this “infantilist ethos” has become less charming – and more pervasive.

Researchers on both sides of the Atlantic have observed how this ethos has now crept into a vast range of social spheres.

In many workplaces, managers can now electronically monitor their employees, many of whom work in open spaces with little personal privacy. As sociologist Gary T. Marx observed, it creates a situation in which workers feel that managers expect them “to behave irresponsibly, to take advantage, and to screw up unless they remove all temptation, prevent them from doing so or trick or force them to do otherwise.”

Much has been written about higher education’s tendency to infantilize its students, whether it’s through monitoring their social media accounts, guiding their every step, or promoting “safe spaces” on campus.

(...)

Then we’ve witnessed the rise of a “therapy culture,” which, as sociologist Frank Furedi warns, treats adults as vulnerable, weak and fragile, while implying that their troubles rooted in childhood qualify them for a “permanent suspension of moral sense.” He argues that this absolves grown-ups from adult responsibilities and erodes their trust in their own experiences and insights."

[HaveBlue]

Biden and co may think that if it is good enough for W to read books upside down, choke on pretzels and be unable to recite the famous adage 'fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me' that he is in good company!

Trump is popular simply because he is not a swamp creature that does nothing in 47 years while claiming how much he cares and is going to get things changed. He also speaks about and to some people we ourselves would love to if we had the chance. Like a proxy for anyone who feels left behind and that is what he campaigned on. Trump is a marketing genius, he knows how to get airtime, all while insulting those who give that media time. A symbiosis that is quite remarkable!

Also it must really infuriate those who he insults while boasting of his own accomplishments that are true and undeniable. Best just to not mention them says the left media. Or be caught lying about them yet again.

The media was already at 6% believable in public opinion long before Trump came on the scene. He was just one of the 96% who has the opportunity to tell them. Many people really do feel represented for the first time or in a very long time.

I say credit where credit is due and nothing succeeds like success. This can annoy many people who like to see others fail.

[atman]

We are now at a point where asking Why Biden? has become almost pointless, hasn't it?

Some of the election results will remain in limbo for weeks and will end up being strongly contested also for weeks, if not months. The integrity of the electoral process seems to have already been lost.

When Joe Biden was still only the Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, he kept repeating that his “single greatest concern” was that “this president is going to try to steal this election.”





Biden Campaign Deploys 600 Lawyers So Trump Can’t ‘Steal This Election’ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/07/02/biden-campaign-deploys-600-lawyers-so-trump-cant-steal-this-election/#a683cf81e009)
by Alison Durkee Forbes Staff Business | Jul 2, 2020

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said Wednesday night that his campaign has gathered a group of 600 lawyers and more than 10,000 volunteers to fight against possible “chicanery” in the November election, as the candidate warns that President Donald Trump could interfere with the election to ensure his victory.



That deployment of 600 lawyers was announced by Biden some 2½ months ago and so I would not be surprised if twice that amount of lawyers was currently hired and deployed, especially in swing states.

While that effort has been presented by Biden as a preventive or defensive measure against fraud or trickery by the other side, I'm quite certain that the intention behind it is part of a plan that is, instead, unethical in nature.

As mentioned by several members in other threads, Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals is widely recognized as the Democrat Party's bible for community organizing and for political activism and propaganda.

In the book, Alinsky writes:




"The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…. The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be...."

"The third rule of ethics of means and ends is that in war the end justifies almost any means...."

With that kind of radical take on "ethics", I have no doubt that Biden and the Democrat Party not only intend to steal the election, but that they are already fully prepared to achieve that goal... by almost any means.

Joe Biden, in the meantime, has been applying one of the left's all-time favourite rules:




Always accuse the other side of that which you are yourself guilty.

[atman]

Last night, during yet another massive "peaceful protest"/rally, held this time in North Carolina, Donald Trump semi-joked that Joe Biden would most likely be under the influence of a cognitive enhancement drug during the upcoming debates.

The actual comment made by Trump does not meet the norms of what most consider "presidential" — read it or watch the video in the tweet at the bottom of the post — but there sure is never a dull moment with this president! And he sure knows how to entertain a big crowd!

Trump also said that he would want both him and Biden to take a drug test before the debates...

We already can be certain that Biden and his team would never agree to such a test (unless perhaps cheating could be involved). On the other hand, there is no doubt that Biden would indeed be given a cognitive enhancement drug, if he ever was allowed to participate in one or more debates with Trump.

I have no idea what specific drug Biden could be given just prior to a debate, but does anyone know if any such drug could really enhance his performance enough, during one hour or two or more, to make some viewers think: "Wow, Joe is sharp and in top shape!"?

Trump seems to believe it could:

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1307470688501063683

[atman]

To Have or Not To Have Dragon Energy, That Is The Question

The case has already been made concerning Joe Biden's cognitive decline and his general lack of vitality, and so I plead guilty to rubbing salt into the wound, here...

This is Joe, at the beginning of a formal address that he gave this afternoon in honour of Ruth Bader Ginsburg:


https://twitter.com/JennPellegrino/status/1307757901226946566


The comparison will be unfair, since the context could not be any more different, but listen to Donald Trump during a non-scripted phone call with mixed martial artist Colby Covington, last night, immediately after Trump had finished giving a long energetic speech in front a crowd of tens of thousands of people:


https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1307524775829536780


Covington refers to Trump's energy as dragon energy (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dragon%20Energy) (famously ascribed to Trump and to himself by Kanye West, last June).

But no dragon energy emanating from Joe Biden, that's for sure!

[onawah]

Is there a test for adrenochrome?

Last night, during yet another massive "peaceful protest"/rally, held this time in North Carolina, Donald Trump semi-joked that Joe Biden would most likely be under the influence of a cognitive enhancement drug during the upcoming debates.

Trump also said that he would want both him and Biden to take a drug test before the debates...

We already can be certain that Biden and his team would never agree to such a test (unless perhaps cheating could be involved). On the other hand, there is no doubt that Biden would indeed be given a cognitive enhancement drug, if he ever was allowed to participate in one or more debates with Trump.

I have no idea what specific drug Biden could be given just prior to a debate, but does anyone know if any such drug could really enhance his performance enough, during one hour or two or more, to make some viewers think: "Wow, Joe is sharp and in top shape!"?

Trump seems to believe it could:

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1307470688501063683

[atman]

After an arduous week that was full of drama and of unbelievable news, I would say that the moment has come for some well-deserved comic relief.

The times we live in are particularly stressful, as it is becoming more and more difficult, for any of us, to distinguish between real news and fake news... or even, God forbid, between press releases and satire!

The two recently published "news" articles, below, are from The Babylon Bee (https://babylonbee.com/).

They might actually help us answer that still-unresolved existential question of ours, Why Biden?

Enjoy!

________________________________________________________________


Biden Forgets To Put On Clothes, Media Praises His Majestic Outfit (https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-forgets-to-put-on-clothes-media-praises-his-majestic-outfit)

https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-7032-1-thumb.jpg


KISSIMMEE, FL—Joe Biden was taken out of the cooler in his campaign bus to give a speech at a campaign stop today, but oops! He forgot to put on clothes.

No worries for the Biden campaign, though. The media quickly praised his "regal" and "elegant" outfit, calling it "majestic" and "presidential."

"Look at that perfect business suit he's wearing -- looks like real presidential material to me!" said one CNN reporter before going off to write a puff piece on Kamala Harris' shoes.

"He's quite a dresser -- really knows how to wear that stylish and elegant suit well," whispered an MSNBC reporter. "Well done, Joe. Well done indeed."

But one young boy who wandered into the campaign event, thinking it to be a fun clown show, took one look at Biden and shouted, "Hey, he's not wearing any clothes!"

The other journalists all turned and looked at him, shocked at his gaslighting.

"Get him!" they cried. But, instead of tackling him, they observed social distancing guidelines and simply went after his old tweets.


________________________________________________________________


Genius Trump Nominates Joe Biden To Supreme Court Forcing Dems To Accuse Him Of Sexual Assault (https://babylonbee.com/news/genius-trump-nominates-joe-biden-to-supreme-court)

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1307726037237760000/V7YavsbZ?format=jpg&name=600x314

WASHINGTON, D.C.—Trump has announced his pick for Supreme Court justice: Joe Biden. By nominating Biden, Trump has forced the Dems' hands, making them believe the sexual assault claims and allegations of inappropriate, creepy behavior against the former vice president.

The "4D chess" move forced Dems to immediately accuse Joe Biden of sexual assault and reverse their position on the current claims against him.

"We now believe Tara Reade," said a somber Kamala Harris, "and we will do everything in our power to destroy this man's life."

In addition to believing current claims against Joe Biden, Democrats also immediately dug up 417 new accusers against Joe Biden. He has been accused of participating in wild frat parties, drunken keggers, and something called the "Devil's Triangle," which Dems say is either a Satanic ritual or code for a sexual practice or "maybe both."

"It's clear this man is dangerous and cannot be trusted," said Nancy Pelosi. "We call on the Senate to turn down his nomination and run him out of public life."

Biden released a statement, saying, "I just want to go home and see my grandkids again." His mic was cut off and he was pulled off the stage with a shepherd's crook.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

According to Joe, approximately 3% of the world's population will die, due to covid, before he finishes his speech. Ok Joe...

https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1307782384591437829

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The interviewer is sitting to his right, but Joe's looking to his left.

"Okay, I lost that line.."

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1308137972886368256

44531

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1308087743331938305

I can understand when making a long speech to camera, or a large crowd, that a teleprompter is necessary. But a 1-on-1 interview? That not only smacks of incompetence on the interviewee's part, but a purely staged event. The interviewer has to be in on it too. When a politician cannot answer a question without reading the answer off a screen, then he's a sham. The whole damn thing is a sham.

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[TargeT]

https://i.redd.it/5vijhon4ooo51.jpg

[onawah]

Judicial Watch's email update: (email re concerns about Hunter Biden )
9/23/20

“This email shows the Obama State Department had a longstanding concern about then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden’s Burisma involvement – and how the Russians were using Biden’s conflicts of interest to undermine U.S. policy,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton in Breitbart. Read:
https://www.judicialwatch.org/in-the-news/russian-trolling-biden/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=other "

From Tom Fitton’s Op-Ed for Breitbart:

"Americans weren’t generally aware of Joe and Hunter Biden’s shenanigans in Ukraine, but Obama’s State Department certainly was, as was Ukraine, its pro-Russian newspaper sardonically referring to the soon to be then-Vice President Joe Biden showing up to protect his son’s business in Ukraine.

We learned this from three pages of State Department records. They include a January 17, 2017, email from George Kent, the Obama administration’s deputy assistant secretary of state in charge of Ukraine policy, which was copied to then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, highlighting Russia-linked media “trolling” Joe Biden over “his son’s business.”

We obtained the records in response to our FOIA lawsuit filed in January 2020 seeking records of communications from the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv mentioning Burisma (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:20-cv-00229)). (The records had been separately released to Citizens United.)

An email was sent four days prior to the inauguration of President Donald Trump to a redacted recipient and CCd to Yovanovitch with the subject line “medvedchuk-linked vesti trolls Biden.” Kent writes: “Burisma – gift that keeps on giving. (With medvedchuk affiliated Vesti pushing the troll like storyline on visit day)”

Read More Here:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/22/fitton-obama-official-notes-russians-trolling-joe-biden-on-son-hunter/ (as follows):
Fitton: Obama Official Notes Russians Trolling Joe Biden on Son Hunter
by Tom Fitton
9/23/20

"Americans weren’t generally aware of Joe and Hunter Biden’s shenanigans in Ukraine, but Obama’s State Department certainly was, as was Ukraine, its pro-Russian newspaper sardonically referring to the soon to be then-Vice President Joe Biden showing up to protect his son’s business in Ukraine.

We learned this from three pages of State Department records. They include a January 17, 2017, email from George Kent, the Obama administration’s deputy assistant secretary of state in charge of Ukraine policy, which was copied to then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, highlighting Russia-linked media “trolling” Joe Biden over “his son’s business.”

We obtained the records in response to our FOIA lawsuit filed in January 2020 seeking records of communications from the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv mentioning Burisma (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:20-cv-00229)). (The records had been separately released to Citizens United.)

An email was sent four days prior to the inauguration of President Donald Trump to a redacted recipient and CCd to Yovanovitch with the subject line “medvedchuk-linked vesti trolls Biden.” Kent writes: “Burisma – gift that keeps on giving. (With medvedchuk affiliated Vesti pushing the troll like storyline on visit day)”

Medvedchuk refers to Viktor Medvedchuk, a Ukrainian politician, lawyer, business oligarch, and People’s Deputy of Ukraine. He’s considered a Putin ally. Vesti is the pro-Russian newspaper in Ukraine.

Hunter Biden, son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, served on the board of directors for Ukrainian energy firm Burisma Holdings despite having no previous experience in the energy industry.

Kent includes a “Review of Ukrainian Printed Press” that includes the Ukrainian newspaper Vesti, which described Biden’s visit to Ukraine, saying: “Will J. Biden arrive to secure his son’s business? According to experts, J. Biden, as the unofficial curator of ‘the Ukrainian question’, will give P. Poroshenko recommendations about working with the new US administration. Another aspect is the protection of his own business interests.”

On January 17, 2017, Biden was on his sixth visit in seven years to Ukraine. When Biden visited Ukraine in 2015, he threatened to withhold $1 billion if the country’s top prosecutor was not dismissed. Hunter Biden was under investigation by the later-fired prosecutor general.

Kent and Yovanovitch were both star witnesses for Democrats in the Trump impeachment hearings. Kent testified he warned the Obama administration about Hunter Biden’s work with Burisma: “My concern was that there was the possibility of a perception of a conflict of interest.” Kent answered the questions of Rep. Kathy Castor (D-FL):

CASTOR: OK, but you know Hunter Biden’s role in Burisma’s board of directors. At some point you testified in your deposition that you expressed some concern to the Vice President’s Office. Is that correct
KENT: That is correct.
CASTOR: And what did they do about that concern that you expressed?
KENT: I have no idea. I reported my concern to the Office of the Vice President.

In April 2014, Hunter Biden joined the board of the Ukrainian gas company. He served on the board until early 2019. Burisma, which was under investigation by the Ukrainian government, stated at the time of his hiring that Biden would be “in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations.”

This email shows the Obama State Department had a longstanding concern about then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden’s Burisma involvement – and how the Russians were using Biden’s conflicts of interest to undermine U.S. policy."

(I'm betting that more revelations about this are going to be the October Surprise.)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Definitely not natural.

44580

[Sarah Rainsong]

Definitely not natural.

44580

My first thought... :ROFL:
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[ExomatrixTV]

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[ExomatrixTV]

Joe Biden Calls Troops "Stupid Bastards" During Speech:


5f6e971a327a0f0a35e3dded
Source (https://banned.video/watch?id=5f6e971a327a0f0a35e3dded)

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I don't like posting these as it feels mean, but it's just too funny.

<End of Quote> :lol:

https://twitter.com/CHIZMAGA/status/1310019130074906625

[onawah]

People in the Dark Shadows
110,688 views•Oct 2, 2020
Amazing Polly
370K subscribers

"There's at least one big boom in here, and depending on whether or not you're familiar with the swamp, this whole report might blow your mind.
A week ago Trump mentioned that the violence in the US is being funded by 'people in the dark shadows' ... on that same week a Senate report came out detailing the shenanigans & connections to Hunter Biden. In this video I pull on one tiny, under-reported thread from that report to shine light a couple of people lurking in the background. "
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[onawah]

Review of People in the Dark Shadows
By Alexandra Bruce
10/4/20
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/people-in-the-dark-shadows/

"Amazing Polly takes us on a journey, which reveals the contours of the Deep State, as she follows peripheral characters in the recent Senate report, "Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption: The Impact on US Government Policy and Related Concerns," which was sent to the DOJ for criminal referral.

She finds fine exemples of the Swamp in one Danish couple, JP and Ulla Bak. Ulla is a former high-powered lawyer, with a background at the EU's Court of Justice and as a Director on the Board of Unibank, one of Haiti's largest private commercial banks.

Ulla Bak went on to found a string of companies in Denmark and in the US, from cellphone technology to light railroads. Their PR pieces claim that they'd retired as extremely successful attorneys in Denmark but that she became bored and began looking for a challenge when they decided to go to Haiti after the devastating earthquake there.

In 2013, with money they received from the US State Department, they founded a firm called sûretab, to assemble cheap, iPad-like tablets in Haiti from parts made in China.

The couple claimed they never considered it a viable business but when they entered a grant contest from the US State Department's Agency for International Development, they had to describe the operation as a "business" in order to qualify - and they won.

As Polly says, "Wouldn't you have expected that that contest to have been about Haitian entrepreneurs, not some Danish rich people that came from abroad?" Polly was unable to find the exact date of their win but the US Secretary of State who approved of this was either Hillary Clinton or John Kerry.

Polly says, "Are you seeing...the shape of the swamp creature, that just takes over every country they can, all the business people use their contacts in government, they use other people's money, they make products on the backs of cheap labor, devastated economies and then they get rich and when they're done, they just close shop and move on - which is what the Baks did.

After sûretab got going, they moved their business over to the United States...They chose Buffalo after receiving tax-free incentives from the Startup New York initiative funded by New York taxpayers.

"So that in both cases, in sûretab, in Haiti and in...[Bak USA] in Buffalo, New York, they got US taxpayer money to start up their businesses."

Polly finds that New York Governor Cuomo repeatedly touted their company, whose cheap tablet sold for $45.99. "It's out of stock, of course," Polly says. "One wonders if they're ever in stock. One wonders what this money's really going to?" On November 1st, 2018 Bak USA shut down operations, blaming the Trump Administration's China policies.

Now for the kicker: Polly says the way these swamp creatures connect to the Senate's report on corruption is found on page 70. "It says separately between May 6th, 2015 and December 8th, 2015 Baturina. This is a Russian woman who was the wife of the former Mayor of Moscow. [Elena] Baturina sent 11 wires in the amount of $391,000 to a bank account belonging to Bak USA, LLC...

"Nine of the 11 transactions totaling $241,797 were sent from Baturina's [Chinese bank] accounts to a Rosemont-Seneca-Thornton bank account, which then transferred the money to Bak USA. 11 transactions, all listed 'loan agreement' in the payment details section.

Elena Baturina is the richest woman in Russia. She gave Hunter Biden's firm, Rosemont-Seneca lots of money and she also gave Hunter Biden's other company, Bohai Harvest $3.4 million, which made the headlines last week.

Polly also found evidence that the "unnamed Chinese partners" in the Senate report that she believes might very well be Bill Gates and Microsoft. Many more details that justify these claims are in her video."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVGxkmjCrQQ

[onawah]

CNN Host SHOCKS Network By Admitting Hunter Biden Is A ‘Swamp Creature’
188,707 views•Oct 1, 2020
The Hill
817K subscribers

"Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti react to CNN anchor, John King's statements about Hunter Biden."
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[mountain_jim]

Has The Audacity of Grope been covered here already? :)

https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1261792007497945088?s=20

1261792007497945088

Unfortunately the above clip does not cover the preceding 2 minutes where all videos were shown.

With ads, that is all here:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jon+stewart+the+audacity+of+grope&view=detail&mid=D097957EE5DC8E86CB7FD097957EE5DC8E86CB7F&FORM=VIRE

[onawah]

Hunter Biden Longtime Biz Partner And Burisma Board-Buddy Going To Prison After Obama Judge Reversed
by Tyler Durden
10/09/2020
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-longtime-biz-partner-and-burisma-board-buddy-going-prison-after-obama-judge?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=miximedia&utm_campaign=zerohedge

"Archer and several of his business partners were indicted on March 26, 2018 in a $60 million bond scheme which defrauded Native Americans. Hunter was not implicated in the fraud, however Archer and the other partners repeatedly name-dropped the former Vice President's son.



BenTallmadge
@BenKTallmadge
June 28, 2018
Three Convicted In Manhattan Federal Court For The Fraudulent Issuance And Sale Of More Than $60 Million Of Tribal Bonds

One of them is Devon Archer, ex aid of John Kerry, business partner of Chris Heinz & Hunter Biden in Rosemont Seneca.
Three Convicted In Manhattan Federal Court For The Fraudulent
justice.gov
3:31 PM · Sep 4, 2019
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Following a trial which lasted nearly one-month, Archer was found guilty of conspiracy to commit securities fraud and securities fraud. After requesting that the district court set aside the jury's verdict, Judge Ronnie Abrams - the wife of Mueller special counsel attorney Greg Andres (who himself was a Deputy Assistant AG in the Obama DOJ, according to RedState) - granted Archer's wish. What's more, Abrams was Hunter Biden's classmate at Yale Law school.

Not so fast Judge Ronnie...

In a unanimous opinion, a three-judge panel said that Abrams made a mistake by prioritizing her own theory above that of the jury's, and that her assessment undercut the significance of the proof in its totality.


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‘In a unanimous opinion authored by US Circuit Judge Richard J. Sullivan, a three-judge panel said US District Judge Tonnie Abrams (wife of Mueller SC’s Greg Andres) made a mistake by prioritizing her own theory above that of the jury’s..’
2nd Circ. Scraps Order Granting New Tribal Bond Scheme Trial - Law360
The Second Circuit on Wednesday revived a jury's conviction of investment firm partner Devon Archer on two counts related to securities fraud for conspiring to defraud a Native American tribe,...
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‘Thé panel also criticized Judge Abrams’ analysis of the government’s evidence, saying that her assessment undercut the significance of the proof in its totality.’

Thé panel’s decision sent the suit back to the district court for Archer’s sentencing..
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Archer was Yale roommates with John Kerry's stepson Chris Heinz - the two of whom opened investment firm Rosemont Capital with Hunter. Rosemont Capital is the parent company of Rosemont Seneca Partners, LLC - the entity which receive the Burisma payments and in turn aid Biden.

It was through Archer's trial that we learned large sums of Chinese and Ukrainian money was flowing into accounts owned by Archer and Hunter Biden, specifically a Morgan Stanley account for Rosemont Seneca Bohai, LLC - which Ukrainian gas giant Burisma wired $166,666.66 in two identical payments in 2014 and 2015, according to Just The News.

Archer's bank statement released in the trial also revealed that the China state-owned Bank of China directly funneled more than $100,000 into the same account as Burisma beginning in December 2014. Another entity, Novatus Holding Pte. Ltd., wired $142,300 to the Rosemont account on April 22, 2014. That entity is controlled by a Kazakh businessman named Kenges Rakishev who has close ties to the leaders of Kazakhstan.

Many of the financial records revealed during Archer's 2018 trial became the subject of a joint Senate committee investigation. The GOP-led investigation slammed the Bidens and their associates for apparent conflicts of interest and flagged possible criminal activity while citing "glaring" evidence of Burisma bribes, suspicious foreign money transfers and sex trafficking. -Just The News

In summary - the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit unanimously called out a judge whose numerous conflicts of interest may have led her to give Devon Archer a second chance.Now, Archer will be going to prison - unless Joe Biden wins the election and pardons him."

[Luke Holiday]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PLSPvJ9BY

...Yep, looks like he checks all the boxes for presidential candidate of the US...

... would you leave your child alone with this man?

Blessings Luke

[onawah]

Biden ahead or polls faked?
Trump’s DESPERATE Attempt For Election Miracle, Biden At Largest Lead Since 1936
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"Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti break down the latest polling in key battleground states, as well as nationally. They also discuss how Joe Biden is polling, compared to other presidential challengers through the years."
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On the other hand, just saw this:
Biden Campaign COLLAPSING as RIGGED Polls REVEALED to be FAKE!!!
265,500 views•Oct 12, 2020
Dr. Steve Shay Turley

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

On the other hand, just saw this:
Biden Campaign COLLAPSING as RIGGED Polls REVEALED to be FAKE!!!
265,500 views•Oct 12, 2020
Dr. Steve Shay Turley

Ps-6DvkqB3A

I believe that's true, the polls are fake(d). A more accurate breakdown can perhaps be drawn from who and how many are turning out at rallies, and or not as the case may be.

https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1301669514258665479

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Forget the James Woods tweet, not really relevant or necessary (or very tasteful). But the video..

The fact that Joe can't remember Mitt Romney's name, the presidential candidate he and Obama ran against just 8 years ago, is rather concerning. It's another strong indicator he is suffering from age-related mental incapacity of some form.

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1315709797212196864

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

At what point is a candidate removed due to said incapacity? Could that possibility happen?

https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1315765442657628160

The real question then is, who's waiting in the wings to take over...?

[SubjectCCCIX]

I don't believe in politics for the same reason I don't believe Hugh Jackman is actually wolverine.

[TargeT]

At what point is a candidate removed due to said incapacity? Could that possibility happen?


There is nothing that disqualifies him so far, "candidate" is the operative word....


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. (https://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_item/constitution.htm#a2_sec1)

hell, the constitutional requirements for Pres kind of infer that there is an educated and well informed voting base.. they probably ASSUMED we would never vote a "biden" into office.

[T Smith]

Why Biden?

The recent declassifications (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-brennan-notes-cia-memo-clinton) should provide a perfectly clear answer to that question. Biden is literally part (https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/05/13/joe-biden-now-in-hot-seat-over-unmasking-revelations/) of the organized crime syndicate in the hot seat of the Trump Administration's DOJ investigations, and here (https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons) (whether those responsible for these crimes will ever come to justice is another matter), but if we even slightly entertain this in the public sphere: https://twitter.com/sxdoc/status/1315669380978610176?s=20 or better yet, that the public demands justice for all that is coming out, persons at the highest levels of the DNC will be at the center of those heads on the chopping block.

And now even more serious allegations are coming to light regarding Benghazi, the false flag murder of Bin Laden's double, and the murder of Seal Team 6 as an insurance policy to cover up the crimes. These are very serious charges even given a vigorous MSM propaganda campaign and/or blackout to the contrary, so the installation of Biden is a must, by any means necessary. Everyone you see below is implicated:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Obama_and_Biden_await_updates_on_bin_Laden.jpg

What better way to assure this all goes away and to insure for an exculpatory revision of history than to install a party to the crime as the next POTUS?

Makes perfect sense to me.

[sunwings]

Joe Biden Confuses President Trump W/ George W Bush: “Because Of Who I’m Running Against…George"

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[Jayke]

Joe Biden Confuses President Trump W/ George W Bush: “Because Of Who I’m Running Against…George"

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:ROFL:

No doubt he was reading a 20 year old script written for someone else the last time George Bush was running for President. More empty, meaningless, recycled talking points from sleepy Joe.

[Maia Gabrial]

44880

Just substitute Kamala Harris for Killary Clinton.

[42]

44880

Just substitute Kamala Harris for Killary Clinton.

Really offensive comments. Where does science and spirituality enter into this thread?

[Ewan]

44880

Just substitute Kamala Harris for Killary Clinton.

Really offensive comments. Where does science and spirituality enter into this thread?

Well this is the News and Updates thread not Science or Spirituality. I guess sometimes people have to vent and it does not always seem appropriate to others.
But we do live in strange times - whatever your viewpoint.

[TargeT]

44880

Just substitute Kamala Harris for Killary Clinton.

Really offensive comments. Where does science and spirituality enter into this thread?

Well this is the News and Updates thread not Science or Spirituality. I guess sometimes people have to vent and it does not always seem appropriate to others.
But we do live in strange times - whatever your viewpoint.

Seems like a meme on reality... its clear Joe was picked because he is completely owned and deep in the swamp, hes a d list politician really... very expendable from what I'm seeing

[Sarah Rainsong]

44880

Just substitute Kamala Harris for Killary Clinton.

Really offensive comments. Where does science and spirituality enter into this thread?

It is important to understand the full context of what's going on here in the U.S. It has been obvious to both Dems and Repubs for quite some time that Biden is simply not mentally fit for president, and that should he be elected, his vice president will ultimately finish his term. Thus, IMO, memes like this simply reinforce and echo that point.

It might be helpful to consider this meme and others like it as forms of political cartoons, the type that might be in some newspaper. Sometimes those are funny, sometimes not. Often depends on the reader. Either way, they are a form of expression, and no harm or foul play is actually being advocated here.

[42]

44880

Just substitute Kamala Harris for Killary Clinton.

Really offensive comments. Where does science and spirituality enter into this thread?

It is important to understand the full context of what's going on here in the U.S. It has been obvious to both Dems and Repubs for quite some time that Biden is simply not mentally fit for president, and that should he be elected, his vice president will ultimately finish his term. Thus, IMO, memes like this simply reinforce and echo that point.

It might be helpful to consider this meme and others like it as forms of political cartoons, the type that might be in some newspaper. Sometimes those are funny, sometimes not. Often depends on the reader. Either way, they are a form of expression, and no harm or foul play is actually being advocated here.

Having been a little too close to the subject of suicide recently, perhaps i am a little more sensitized than the poster. However, there should be no place for suicide as a meme or as a poor substitute for humour on this site. And BTW in the full context of what is going on in the US - you have my love and sympathy. 328 million and those two are the best you can field?

[TargeT]

Having been a little too close to the subject of suicide recently, perhaps i am a little more sensitized than the poster. However, there should be no place for suicide as a meme or as a poor substitute for humour on this site. And BTW in the full context of what is going on in the US - you have my love and sympathy. 328 million and those two are the best you can field?


I don't believe in any form of censorship an since J Epstein just "suicided" very publicly I think most people understand this meant "KILL HIM" (or get rid of him, what ever... just Like J Epstein) to underline the fact that he is clearly a place holder.

I think the context of the current situation DEMANDS we pay attention to this and NOT let the "suicide" of Epstein go away.... things like this need to be brought up so we can see what terrifying events can (and JUST DID) happen.

[42]

Having been a little too close to the subject of suicide recently, perhaps i am a little more sensitized than the poster. However, there should be no place for suicide as a meme or as a poor substitute for humour on this site. And BTW in the full context of what is going on in the US - you have my love and sympathy. 328 million and those two are the best you can field?


I don't believe in any form of censorship an since J Epstein just "suicided" very publicly I think most people understand this meant "KILL HIM" (or get rid of him, what ever... just Like J Epstein) to underline the fact that he is clearly a place holder.

I think the context of the current situation DEMANDS we pay attention to this and NOT let the "suicide" of Epstein go away.... things like this need to be brought up so we can see what terrifying events can (and JUST DID) happen.


i agree in principle - however, suicide as humour is simply inexcusable and in poor taste. A very sensitive subject. Not to be censored for sure... but not to be the subject of "humour" either. Not an enlightened post IMHO

[Gracy]

Having been a little too close to the subject of suicide recently, perhaps i am a little more sensitized than the poster. However, there should be no place for suicide as a meme or as a poor substitute for humour on this site.

I'm sorry 42, that suicide has recently been a part of your life, my true condolences. Now having said that, we really can't just start tip toeing around subjects that will of course always be sensitive to a certain percentage of people. Pretty soon comedians would have nothing left for to joke about for instance.




And BTW in the full context of what is going on in the US - you have my love and sympathy. 328 million and those two are the best you can field?
On that we agree in full, this is the best we can do?

Now to frame that in context with our former subject here. What if I were extremely distraught at the fact that our system in place enforces the reasons that this is so?

I'm not going to ask that say, political satirists, to cease making fun of stuff like that because it's to up close and personal. We can't live that way, not and have any semblance of free speech.

[Jayke]

Having been a little too close to the subject of suicide recently, perhaps i am a little more sensitized than the poster. However, there should be no place for suicide as a meme or as a poor substitute for humour on this site. And BTW in the full context of what is going on in the US - you have my love and sympathy. 328 million and those two are the best you can field?

I don't believe in any form of censorship an since J Epstein just "suicided" very publicly I think most people understand this meant "KILL HIM" (or get rid of him, what ever... just Like J Epstein) to underline the fact that he is clearly a place holder.

I think the context of the current situation DEMANDS we pay attention to this and NOT let the "suicide" of Epstein go away.... things like this need to be brought up so we can see what terrifying events can (and JUST DID) happen.


i agree in principle - however, suicide as humour is simply inexcusable and in poor taste. A very sensitive subject. Not to be censored for sure... but not to be the subject of "humour" either. Not an enlightened post IMHO

Depends on the method of attempted suicide. People who cut their wrists in the shower don’t really want to die, they’re actually just psychologically yearning for a rebirth experience. Same with most suicides actually, they don’t really want to die, they just want to stop living the life they currently have now. Read some Stanislav Grof if you want to spiritualise Death and Dying (http://www.stangrof.com/images/joomgallery/ArticlesPDF/Death_and_Dying.pdf), and then post about it on a thread where it’s on topic like in the spirituality section. Humour is cathartic, you’ll find that once you learn to laugh about suicide, it’ll lose any and all power to sway your emotions around it.

[Franny]

i agree in principle - however, suicide as humour is simply inexcusable and in poor taste. A very sensitive subject. Not to be censored for sure... But not to be the subject of "humour" either. Not an enlightened post imho

I am truly sorry to hear that a person close to you committed suicide. I understand as I have a few friends and a family member that did as well as one that was murdered and it's devastating. :flower:

May I rewind this a bit. Humor has been used to address things indirectly that are difficult to discuss openly, not because they are actually funny, but because it works to get a message across to the audience. Consider the use of court jesters in the past, they could safely, if they were good, convey a message or alert the monarch to trouble at a time when shooting the messenger was popular.

Or the dark humor of first responders to a difficult or gruesome task before them to help them cope. Others may find it callous or indifferent but for most it's a coping mechanism.

Humor is a multifaceted part of life that we still don't understand very well.

There are many types of humor but all are based on something just a little out of place, that should not quite be there or should not have happened, or just plain wrong - my not very good description.

Another way to put it is:


"One theory of the psychology of humor that’s been gaining a lot of traction is called benign violation theory, developed by Peter McGraw. The gist of this theory is that we find something funny when two conditions are met: it violates the way we think the world should work, and it does so in a way that’s not threatening.

First, the violation part. The crux of this is that we all have a basic sense of how the world should work, which includes the norms for appropriate behavior and general beliefs about what is “correct.” When our basic sense of the world is violated, it might make us laugh. If someone does something wrong or says something they’re not “supposed to” say, it’s grounds for giggles.

http://socialpsychonline.com/2016/04/psychology-of-humor-funny-comedy/

The joke, however, is not really about suicide but about being suicided, or in the decades old parlance, Arkancided. Referring to the larger than unusual number of people close to the Clintons that die. And no, murder is not funny either. This political joke conveys a message that Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris are dangerous choices for a leadership position let alone anything else. I don't see it as making light of suicide or murder.

In the time after my friend had been murdered or others had committed suicide I may have been very sensitive to it as well. But time has closed the open wounds to a few scars. Perhaps because of that, this one, to me at this time, does not convey hilarity and open cheery laughter. More a reaction of, humph, yes, terrible choice for political office.

[42]

Franny - i'm British - we invented humour... all i'm saying is suicide is not funny. i'm also saying that Bill or the moderator team may have a perspective. I've been a member since Camelot and i'm generally quiet and respectful. This subject is pissing me off however...

[Strat]

we really can't just start tip toeing around subjects that will of course always be sensitive to a certain percentage of people. Pretty soon comedians would have nothing left for to joke about for instance.


Slam dunk. This has been a growing issue in the US lately which is annoying since I'm a big fan of stand up comedy.

That being said I do think it's uncouth to joke about certain things unless you're a comedian on a stage. Online and in person I generally avoid jokes on rape and suicide.

[42]

we really can't just start tip toeing around subjects that will of course always be sensitive to a certain percentage of people. Pretty soon comedians would have nothing left for to joke about for instance.


Slam dunk. This has been a growing issue in the US lately which is annoying since I'm a big fan of stand up comedy.

That being said I do think it's uncouth to joke about certain things unless you're a comedian on a stage. Online and in person I generally avoid jokes on rape and suicide.

Agreed. Totally agreed. Currently, stand up comedians are not short of material, primarily fed by US politics. Again...all I am saying is have a little respect about subject matter. Suicide is not funny.

Edit - and if you think that being a comedian on stage gives you permission to joke about "certain things" perhaps like suicide - then i won't be attending the same comedy clubs as you.

[42]

Having been a little too close to the subject of suicide recently, perhaps i am a little more sensitized than the poster. However, there should be no place for suicide as a meme or as a poor substitute for humour on this site. And BTW in the full context of what is going on in the US - you have my love and sympathy. 328 million and those two are the best you can field?

I don't believe in any form of censorship an since J Epstein just "suicided" very publicly I think most people understand this meant "KILL HIM" (or get rid of him, what ever... just Like J Epstein) to underline the fact that he is clearly a place holder.

I think the context of the current situation DEMANDS we pay attention to this and NOT let the "suicide" of Epstein go away.... things like this need to be brought up so we can see what terrifying events can (and JUST DID) happen.


i agree in principle - however, suicide as humour is simply inexcusable and in poor taste. A very sensitive subject. Not to be censored for sure... but not to be the subject of "humour" either. Not an enlightened post IMHO

Humour is cathartic, you’ll find that once you learn to laugh about suicide, it’ll lose any and all power to sway your emotions around it.

"once you learn to laugh about suicide" is the day i'll be looking for a more intelligent forum.

[Jayke]

Humour is cathartic, you’ll find that once you learn to laugh about suicide, it’ll lose any and all power to sway your emotions around it.

"once you learn to laugh about suicide" is the day i'll be looking for a more intelligent forum.

Good luck with that 42. Like I said, start with some Stanislav Grof and then end with some George Carlin. You’ll feel better before you know it. Or try starting a thread in the spirituality section where you can share your story. You’ll be surprised at how many people have been there before you and learnt to look back on it with humour. Everyone suffers! Everyone! You’re not the only one that’s been through a bleak dark night of the soul. I’m willing to bet almost everyone on this forum has seriously contemplated or attempted suicide at some point in their life. If others can learn to laugh at their foibles, I trust you’ll get to that stage at some point as well.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Agreed that there's nothing funny about suicide at all, but the 'joke' here isn't about someone taking one's life. It's an observation, that takes a dab at the incongruous nature of the many, many deaths that are passed off as suicide.

Investigate the Clinton Foundation. Investigate 'Arkanicide (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arkancide)' - as in Epstein was Arkanicided.

The joke image was not a joke per se. This is meme warfare, designed to shed a light on (and increase awareness of) this dark reality in the political world.

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[Chester]

Agreed that there's nothing funny about suicide at all, but the 'joke' here isn't about someone taking one's life. It's an observation, that takes a dab at the incongruous nature of the many, many deaths that are passed off as suicide.

Investigate the Clinton Foundation. Investigate 'Arkanicide (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arkancide)' - as in Epstein was Arkanicided.

The joke image was not a joke per se. This is meme warfare, designed to shed a light on (and increase awareness of) this dark reality in the political world.

44886

Yes - but since I am from Texas and very familiar with Arkancide... it is as I typed. without an 'i' between the n and the c.

[Chester]

44880

Just substitute Kamala Harris for Killary Clinton.

Really offensive comments. Where does science and spirituality enter into this thread?

Hi 42, having experienced the suicide of my father, the attempted suicide (five times) of my first wife (where upon the fifth time the Dr. told me she was dead, and that what came back was her and 'something' else), having almost "done it" (or that's what would have been determined) in 2012 when a voice in my head told me I had to kill myself to save the world, having called a business associate once where his wife picked up the phone screaming as she had just found him dead (hung himself in the closet)... I am still able to read the "meme" that offended you without being offended in any way.

But also, I am probably far more familiar with the reputations of the Clintons and the reason for the creation of the term, "Arkancided."

Yet also, I do recall when I joined the forum that there seemed to be a "rule" regarding the discussion of suicide (if it should even be discussed). Over the course of my eight years here, I found most discussions where suicide came up, to be thoughtful to its sensitivity.

Unfortunately, this is also a conspiracy forum and the idea of murder being feigned as suicide is simply inseparable from much of these explorations/theories.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Isn't the Vice Presidential candidate usually called the 'running mate'?

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1321208790058962946

[Chester]

READ: The censored Glenn Greenwald article about Hunter (and Joe) Biden

https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/10/read-the-censored-glenn-greenwald-article-about-hunter-and-joe-biden/

The world renowned investigative Journalist Glenn Greenwald resigned from the publication he founded, The Intercept, after he says it censored his article about Hunter Biden.

What follows is Greenwald's note at the link below, plus the article that was censored.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-biden-censored

I am posting here the most recent draft of my article about Joe and Hunter Biden — the last one seen by Intercept editors before telling me that they refuse to publish it absent major structural changes involving the removal of all sections critical of Joe Biden, leaving only a narrow article critiquing media outlets. I will also, in a separate post, publish all communications I had with Intercept editors surrounding this article so you can see the censorship in action and, given the Intercept’s denials, decide for yourselves (this is the kind of transparency responsible journalists provide, and which the Intercept refuses to this day to provide regarding their conduct in the Reality Winner story). This draft obviously would have gone through one more round of proof-reading and editing by me — to shorten it, fix typos, etc — but it’s important for the integrity of the claims to publish the draft in unchanged form that Intercept editors last saw, and announced that they would not “edit” but completely gut as a condition to publication:

[the article is large and has images and documents - all available at the second link provided above]

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1322461799535448064

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[TargeT]

The world is laughing at the thought of Joe as a president.
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[Lunesoleil]

USA the disunited States of America, broadcast on Arte a French channel, translation into French and spoken American. I just listened to it

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[TomKat]

Why Biden? Because we want perpetual war and a world run by the satanic mafia! Why else?

[pueblo]

It is funny and it's not, Joe really does seem to be in the early stages of dementia, that is the only rational explanation for the constant gaffs..

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[Tintin]

Riding the Dragon: The Bidens' Chinese Secrets (Full Documentary)

Released in early September and described, thus:

Uncover Joe Biden and his family's secret relationship with China and the sinister business deals that enriched the Biden family at America's expense.

https://bidenfilm.com/
© 2020 Lightspeed Pictures

I've downloaded it as one can't be too certain how long material remains on Youtube these days. It's an effective dot-connector and pulls together much of the already written material.

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[pueblo]

Biden hasn't even been inaugurated yet and already he is promising institutionalised racism and sexism.

https://twitter.com/Transition46/status/1348403213200990209?s=20

[42]

Biden hasn't even been inaugurated yet and already he is promising institutionalised racism and sexism.

https://twitter.com/Transition46/status/1348403213200990209?s=20

What he is promising is equal access to resources. Not racism and sexism. Those two points were delivered by his predecessor.

[TargeT]

What he is promising is equal access to resources. Not racism and sexism. Those two points were delivered by his predecessor.

you don't target specific groups and then say equal access to resources.... those two thing's don't go together.....

and honestly,... this isn't an issue, it should be "small business" period. no mention of identity politics, that's exactly how "systematic racism" starts.

[Ernie Nemeth]

No better way to establish systemic racism than to target certain minorities as 'deserving' special status. In Canada it is now called POC. Persons of Color - meaning any color but white. It is now entrenched in our government pamphlets and laws. Canada panders to its minorities which will in twenty years become the majority, due to their lop-sided immigration agenda, so they are getting ahead of the game. But meanwhile, it is a racist stance meant to hasten the demise of the whites and prop up the status of the POCs.

[onawah]

Chris Hedges: Biden Admin-Redux: Deep State, Empire and Censorship
JANUARY 16, 2021
BY DANDELIONSALAD RT America
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"On this show this week, Chris Hedges talks to Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald about the incoming Biden administration and what it will mean for a country in crisis, ravaged by a pandemic it cannot control, hostage to corporate power and bifurcated into warring factions.

Glenn Greenwald is the author of several bestsellers, including How Would a Patriot Act? and With Liberty and Justice for Some. His most recent book is No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State. Greenwald is a former constitutional law and civil rights litigator. He was a columnist for The Guardian until October 2013 and was the founding editor of the media outlet, The Intercept. He is a frequent guest on Fox News, Rolling Stone and various other television and radio outlets. He has won numerous awards for his NSA reporting, including the 2013 Polk Award for national security reporting, the top 2013 investigative journalism award from the Online News Association, the Esso Award for Excellence in Reporting (the Brazilian equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize), and the 2013 Pioneer Award from Electronic Frontier Foundation. He also received the first annual I. F. Stone Award for Independent Journalism in 2009 and a 2010 Online Journalism Award for his investigative work on the arrest and detention of Chelsea Manning. In 2013, Greenwald led the Guardian reporting that was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for public service."
https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2021/01/16/chris-hedges-biden-admin-redux-deep-state-empire-and-censorship/

[Mike]

Joe Biden thinks he came to the United States senate 120 years ago

...and more frightening evidence of severe mental decline.

Matt Walsh provides commentary. 8 mins long:
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