Do you think advanced technology was created by aliens or some kind of higher force?

[azproductions]

What do you guys think? I just feel like there’s no way it was humans alone that created the newest technology

[Richter]

Definitely!

It's quite unbelievable that the the speed in which incredibly complex technical & scientific developments
have evolved in the past 20-30 years - in many aspects - has all exclusively taken shape in human minds.

CERN - the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) for example
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And there are many other technical and computer branches (AI, Quantum) where developments
go unnaturally fast.

[Sunny-side-up]

Yes we do some incredibly complex technical projects to day, overly so.
Complex is not a sign of a higher technical race, simple but highly effective is a higher race.

We as a whole have been dumb down, we should/could be far higher than we are.
Our ancestors where far more in tune with the higher,
they where far more cleaver and capable than we are today.
They have done things in the past that we can not do today.

But yes, I do believe in aliens and they might well have influenced us,
but most of what we have has come from our ancestors great and properly thinking minds.

Our world today is run by capitalist thinking, capitalists that want to keep us as slaves,
we have not got the world we should have, we are not where we should be.

[ZenBaller]

You are already thinking way ahead. Technology? What about the human body? Who do you think made that? :bigsmile:

[pueblo]

Yes we do some incredibly complex technical projects to day, overly so.
Complex is not a sign of a higher technical race, simple but highly effective is a higher race.

We as a whole have been dumb down, we should/could be far higher than we are.
Our ancestors where far more in tune with the higher,
they where far more cleaver and capable than we are today.
They have done things in the past that we can not do today.

But yes, I do believe in aliens and they might well have influenced us,
but most of what we have has come from our ancestors great and properly thinking minds.

Our world today is run by capitalist thinking, capitalists that want to keep us as slaves,
we have not got the world we should have, we are not where we should be.

I tend to agree with this view. The high tech of the ancients was indeed the work of us/our ancestors!

Something changed post the Great Cataclysm, we lost our civilisation and got an instant tech downgrade.

We even used to communicate telepathically but we have been on a long slow decline since that cataclysm, gradually forgetting and losing not just our technology but the essence of who and what we are (Spirit).

Maybe we are the alien/gods?

[azproductions]

Interesting! Can you explain more what you mean by the Great Cataclysm?

And the concept that we might be the aliens /gods?

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Yes we do some incredibly complex technical projects to day, overly so.
Complex is not a sign of a higher technical race, simple but highly effective is a higher race.

We as a whole have been dumb down, we should/could be far higher than we are.
Our ancestors where far more in tune with the higher,
they where far more cleaver and capable than we are today.
They have done things in the past that we can not do today.

But yes, I do believe in aliens and they might well have influenced us,
but most of what we have has come from our ancestors great and properly thinking minds.

Our world today is run by capitalist thinking, capitalists that want to keep us as slaves,
we have not got the world we should have, we are not where we should be.

I tend to agree with this view. The high tech of the ancients was indeed the work of us/our ancestors!

Something changed post the Great Cataclysm, we lost our civilisation and got an instant tech downgrade.

We even used to communicate telepathically but we have been on a long slow decline since that cataclysm, gradually forgetting and losing not just our technology but the essence of who and what we are (Spirit).

Maybe we are the alien/gods?

Interesting! Can you explain more what you mean by the Great Cataclysm?

And the concept that we might be the aliens /gods?

[pueblo]

Interesting! Can you explain more what you mean by the Great Cataclysm?

And the concept that we might be the aliens /gods?

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Yes we do some incredibly complex technical projects to day, overly so.
Complex is not a sign of a higher technical race, simple but highly effective is a higher race.

We as a whole have been dumb down, we should/could be far higher than we are.
Our ancestors where far more in tune with the higher,
they where far more cleaver and capable than we are today.
They have done things in the past that we can not do today.

But yes, I do believe in aliens and they might well have influenced us,
but most of what we have has come from our ancestors great and properly thinking minds.

Our world today is run by capitalist thinking, capitalists that want to keep us as slaves,
we have not got the world we should have, we are not where we should be.

I tend to agree with this view. The high tech of the ancients was indeed the work of us/our ancestors!

Something changed post the Great Cataclysm, we lost our civilisation and got an instant tech downgrade.

We even used to communicate telepathically but we have been on a long slow decline since that cataclysm, gradually forgetting and losing not just our technology but the essence of who and what we are (Spirit).

Maybe we are the alien/gods?

Interesting! Can you explain more what you mean by the Great Cataclysm?

And the concept that we might be the aliens /gods?

As I understand it the Great Cataclysm is an event which wiped out the ancient civilisations of Atlantis and Mu, it is known as the flood of the old testament to the Abrahamic religions.

The concept that we might be aliens/gods is quite simple. Just to say I do not see a distinction between what people call aliens and what some people call angels/spirits/demons.

The concept is that we are Spirit Beings that have somehow become sidetracked and a little stuck here, some believe by the design of the imperfect creator gods (not the One True Source), with the intent of keeping us trapped here like livestock, the property of these egomaniacal entities.

When we became trapped here we still retained many of our original spiritual abilities (telepathy being a good example) but over time these have been forgotten or hidden from us, we simply do not remember our origins as Divine Beings who are all a part of the One True Source.

Slowly we are being 'downgraded', mired further and further in the dense muck of this 3D reality with an ever decreasing chance of waking up and claiming our rightful Spiritual heritage as 'Sons of God'.

Alien can mean foreign, and that is essentially what we are here, foreign aliens.

[Sunny-side-up]

the Great Cataclysm?
The event we had to survive, the event that left us dumb'd down.
The event we majority of us where all enslaved from because of our dumbness/weak condition.


But yes, I do believe in aliens and they might well have influenced us,
but most of what we have has come from our ancestors great and properly thinking minds.

We once lived together and influenced each other, it was mutual back then, 'WE' where great together :)

[rgray222]

The following uncut interview was created for the feature film - "UFOs: 50 Years of Denial." In memory of Col. Philip J. Corso - May 22, 1915 - July 16, 1998, and his contribution to UFO and ET Disclosure. He so casually talks about alien technology that was farmed out to the high tech labs of their day. (Bell Labs, Westinghouse, Zenith etc). All of it makes a lot of sense but what I find particularly interesting is the one piece of technology that they could not figure out. The visor which they suspected controlled the movement the UFOs. In today's world that technology has been used by the military for over 10 years and is starting to move into civilian life.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpffcjnXMx0&feature=emb_logo

[greybeard]

Once upon a time.
I dont think we needed alien help.
Some artefacts have been found that are literally millions of years old

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107293-Ancient-Artifacts-That-Are-Still-Shrouded-in-Controversy-Today&p=1375327&viewfull=1#post1375327

One of thoughts is that perhaps we are aliens --Mars looks like it was inhabited once -- maybe we came from there.
Whatever we had amazing skills and lost them maybe through the great flood or even earlier.
Seemingly the have been quite few near extinction events -- greatly reduced population
This showed up in the genes of women -- a bottle neck in the gene pool.
That was in a BBC Panorama program about Yellowstone Super Volcano.
Chris

[Tyy1907]

Agreed we were given toys
And if something doesn't sit right with you thinking of this reality it deserves closer inspection

[thepainterdoug]

Tyy 1907

agreed. I read the Corso book and many others. My instincts tell me we had some intervention and much more. My friend Dan Willis, X navy and part of the disclosure project in DC years back has compiled a compelling chronology of the past 70 years. www.thewebmatrix.net all should look over this great compilation of events.

[DeDukshyn]

 
Yes I agree with the OP premise - not just technology, but spiritual wisdom as well. Almost as though we are being guided to a specific point where both our technological and scientific understanding and our spiritual understanding can then merge and take us to the next level ... what a crazy balancing act that must be when you throw in the complete unpredictability of human behaviour ... :)

Our angelic (aka "alien") friends must be have a good time trying to get us to both spiritually and technologically advance sufficiently to become true co-creators in this amazing physical realm ... :)

[ExomatrixTV]

Would not be surprised if Quantum A.I. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102409-A.I.-is-Progressing-Faster-Than-You-Think-) form the Future somehow alters the past sharing technology from the future to the past ... if so, that opens so many can of worms its not funny anymore.

I heard (amongst others) Dr. Jesse Marcel Junior (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2405277/Dr-Jesse-Marcel-Jr-claimed-handled-alien-debris-Roswell-crash-dies-reading-book-UFOs.html) discussing touching Roswell Artifact made him realize it is from the future! ... Same goes for (if I recollect correctly) people who touched UFO in Rendlesham Forest Case.

More about Penniston’s “Craft of Unknown Origin”

* Penniston usually refers to what he allegedly encountered as “a craft of unknown origin” but has specifically and repeatedly denied that it was extraterrestrial. So where was it from? After undergoing regression hypnosis in September 1994 he seems to have become convinced that it was a craft from tens of thousands of years in the Earth’s future. According to what Penniston told the hypnotist (http://web.archive.org/web/19970607031756/www.omnimag.com/open_book/bent11.html), it contained our distant descendants returning to obtain genetic material to keep their ailing species alive: “They are time travellers. They are us (http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1745),” he said.

Source (http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/pennistonnotebook.htm)

[palehorse]

What do you guys think? I just feel like there’s no way it was humans alone that created the newest technology

What is the point? It is in the hands of a few that runs the world, and used to enslave the majority.

Use Nikola Tesla as an example of a higher illuminated human being, or was he an alien?
We humans are just another race in the entire cosmos, we are aliens in the point of view of another race, and sure every since in a while there is communication from the advanced ones (I do not think they need to be physically present in order to pass some knowledge), and I believe they 'DROP' their knowledge here in order to help us advance in space and time.

In the other hand Most people live in ignorance and ignorance is bliss for them. As far as I can tell the majority of humankind will never get into a debate about aliens (some will, but it will be just another joke in the end), let alone aliens technology, they are just fine with their daily entertainments, no questions asked.

We know very well what happen to anyone too clever.

[Tyy1907]

What I was getting at in my earlier post:

We e been given many toys and such, but why?

Why is there never a cure for cancer?
Why is Cellphone technology inherently harmful and addictive?
Why are certain countries leaders so oppressive to their own people?
Why is individuality discouraged in public schools?

My point is that while there are loving ET's that exist, they're certainly not here on this earth. The opposite is the case. That is how certain countries are so warlike. That is why our cellphones are addictive and harmful. That is why the medical field takes 1 step forward and 2 steps back. That is why school systems are made to have kids fall in line.

I used to listen to the good ets are here so just hang in there and itll be gravy. I made many life mistakes while I thought this way. It didn't serve me or anyone around me. I now think we're here for a much higher purpose. :handshake:

[TargeT]

What I was getting at in my earlier post:

We e been given many toys and such, but why?

Because reality is probabilistic, volume is key to advancement in that when skill is scarce.


Why is there never a cure for cancer?
Mostly because we do not (or most do not) understand it's cause
Oh, and when have (most)humans ever grown with out struggle or external motivation?


Why is Cellphone technology inherently harmful and addictive?
That's a very definitive phrase, both parts I do not agree with.

Addiction is all about the person, never the substance or action, look inward.



Why are certain countries leaders so oppressive to their own people?
Do people "grow" during excess and comfortable times? Necessity is the mother of all invention... so forcing necessity is logical?



Why is individuality discouraged in public schools?
Because a system like that will ENCOURAGE the best individuals.



I used to listen to the good ets are here so just hang in there and itll be gravy. I made many life mistakes while I thought this way. It didn't serve me or anyone around me. I now think we're here for a much higher purpose. :handshake:

A moving stone gathers no moss

A body in motion stays in motion

Activity = good, complacently = bad... anyone that tells you to "wait" for an external savior is running a confidence game on you and robbing you of your potential.

seeking comfort is the motivation that makes us great, achieving comfort is what ruins humans.

I take cold showers ;)

[Tyy1907]

You must take cold showers! I enjoy reading your posts btw. Strong spirited they are.
The immense growing opportunity -Ive found out- is one of the reasons we're here.
If you take anything away from this post - and if things on this planet continue to escalate toward the negative - know that it's not only ok, but preferred to ask for help if and when its needed.

Growth from adversity is one thing, recognizing the game is rigged is another.

[TargeT]

Growth from adversity is one thing, recognizing the game is rigged is another.

I'm saying... rigged on purpose.... what if we ARE being helped by being given the challenges we need to grow? A human left unchallenged will decay.

Also, remember that "good" and "bad" really just come down to preference (usually socially imposed) and are HIGHLY influenced by contrast betwixt the two.

so us thinking this situation is "rigged" and "negative" maybe just a factor of the above theory.....

Lots of ways to skin the cat ;)

[Tyy1907]

Yes many ways to skin the cat for sure.

Well one things for sure earth's challenges are many. And by the looks of things on our planet we could use some divine level partnership. My .02