Medical training, where does it come from?

[greybeard]

Some recent posts brought this to mind.
First I have the greatest respect for the medical profession.

The challenge is that most are not fully aware of the implications related to the source of the material in which they are trained.
Scientists, including the medical ones are in this case are bound to the status quo model -- if new science comes out in line with this that is acceptable.

So most Dr's will defend their knowledge passionately -- it cant be wrong.
Or can it?

Look at what happened to Dr Wakefield who realized that the MMR vaccine safety checks were not showing contrary results.
That was an end to a promising career.
Have a look at the Vaxxed movie for reference to this.
It is in the Avalon Library
Professor Dolores Cahill came out against the approved fear narrative and was asked to resign several top posts.
Her colleagues to frightened to come out in support.
Dolores Cahill has a resume that is second to none.

Dr Judy Mikovits was jailed, had to sign a 5 year gag order to get released and l lost her reputation
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110916-PLANDEMIC-Part-1-Virologist-Dr-Judy-Mikovits-Speaks-Out&p=1356832&viewfull=1#post1356832

Fact checkers have rubbished many in similar situations

Wikapedia changed the info on Dr Vernon Coleman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Coleman
Please watch the video.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahoCKk8w5oQ&t=244s

Now only those who come up with scientific work that confirms the standard status quo will get funding, they get peer reviewed -- more of the same --join the club.
Dr's get well paid for immunizing their patients a "healthy" side line.

I suspect there will be massive propaganda to get people including kids to take the flu jab as there will, rightly. be resistance to virus Vaccine.

So who advises Governments to continue lockdown?
The inventor of the commonly used test for the virus has said it should not be used for checking for virus, that is an inconvenient fact

Further, the test that is being used is called the RT-PCR test and the inventor said it should NEVER be used for diagnostics. This is because it is not a 'gold-standard' test that would give 100% accuracy. In fact, there is a false positive rate of 80% for this test. This means that the test is meaningless as it is just testing for genetic material and not coronavirus and even that is only a real positive for one in five people. Other tests being used are as bad or even worse. Further, using these tests anyone can test either positive or negative depending upon how many cycles the specimen is amplified by and as such the tests can be easily rigged.

Pasted from here.
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/the-coronavirus-act-2020/

I could say a lot more but I would rather that other more knowledgable and I do so.

Chris

[greybeard]

The Vaxxed film from the Avalon Library
http://avalonlibrary.net/Vaxxed_From_Cover_Up_To_Catastrophe_%282016%29.mp4

[WhiteFeather]

If I may,,, all in a nut shell.
The medical industry is controlled by the Satanic Rockefeller Psychopathic Family. I say no more. Great thread Greybeard.

[greybeard]

If I may,,, all in a nut shell.
The medical industry is controlled by the Satanic Rockefeller Psychopathic Family. I say no more. Great thread Greybeard.

Thank you WhiteFeather
I have found some medically trained people so conditioned by their belief that there training is correct that they will not look at contrary evidence with anything like an open mind.
Ego Ego so identified with their profession --the moment some one says Im a Dr or medically trained you know you have hit a brick wall. Specialness, superiority all mixed in with the label "I am a"
This is why my signature says "May be so" Im happy to look at contrary evidence.
What I believed yeas ago, I smile at now.

Chris

[selinam]

My view on life and the world we live in has done a complete 180 degree turn around from what I believed 20 years ago. Literally nothing is as what I had been told. Now I question everything and some think me crazy for doing that. But we need an open mind to really evaluate what’s going on. I find a lot of people are not open to consider other views. A balance is required to sort the chaff from the wheat - so to speak.

[Gwin Ru]

If I may,,, all in a nut shell.
The medical industry is controlled by the Satanic Rockefeller Psychopathic Family. I say no more. Great thread Greybeard.
Why not start with this post:
Did Psychopath Rockefeller Create the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71330-Do-vaccines-contribute-to-autism-Should-we-vaccinate&p=1357384&viewfull=1#post1357384)

[O Donna]

Education (training)....it a be on there

https://www.thejuicemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/pyramidofpower.jpg

[greybeard]

If I may,,, all in a nut shell.
The medical industry is controlled by the Satanic Rockefeller Psychopathic Family. I say no more. Great thread Greybeard.
Why not start with this post:
Did Psychopath Rockefeller Create the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71330-Do-vaccines-contribute-to-autism-Should-we-vaccinate&p=1357384&viewfull=1#post1357384)


I am indebted to you again Gwin Ru I had forgotten about this post of yours -- brilliant info
There is no end to the depth etc.
Thanks

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Education (training)....it a be on there

https://www.thejuicemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/pyramidofpower.jpg


Thanks O Donna that really condenses the truth into ONE
Chris

[bettye198]

We were able to find data on the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918. It was a design certainly from the Cabal think tanks. The American troops were given every stinking vaccine [yes they had them then] then sent overseas. The troops went violently ill simply because they were given the actual viruses and that spread as their design. No way to offset such a catastrophe. The troops were used as a trojan horse and it became a plague unimagined.

[greybeard]

We were able to find data on the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918. It was a design certainly from the Cabal think tanks. The American troops were given every stinking vaccine [yes they had them then] then sent overseas. The troops went violently ill simply because they were given the actual viruses and that spread as their design. No way to offset such a catastrophe. The troops were used as a trojan horse and it became a plague unimagined.

Think Professor Dolores Cahill said that.
We are so naive.
Of course such things just dont get mentioned in the pro vaccine media.Thanks for posting
Chris

[Open Minded Dude]

From a VERY good book that EVERYONE should read:


Most doctors continue to practice with comfortable indifference. Some see the errors, damage, and limits of their practices but still walk lockstep with the herd and protect the brotherhood. I don’t know what it will take to get these doctors to resist the dictates who rule over them. I’ve had far more success reasoning with parents and intelligent people who are not attached to traditions that are damaging, unscientific, and not even supported by our own medical literature.
Dr Suzanne Humphries

http://www.dissolvingillusions.com/authors-introduction-suzanne-humphries-md/

[Ewan]

Paradigm, it is a tough thing to break. That and seriously heavy funding from the pharmacutical giants.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Attributed to Arthur Schopenhauer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer)

[happyuk]

Great thread. For those wishing to broaden their horizons I would read up on anything to do with German New Medicine (https://learninggnm.com).

I'm still undecided, but it's a really new and interesting way at looking at things - particularly fascinating is the idea that specific cancers are triggered by specific psychological shocks. It's definitely planted a seed.


Dr Hamer was a medical doctor who was in charge of cancer patients in the 1970’s and 1980’s. In 1978 when he was 43 his 19 year old son was shot and killed. Shortly after his son died, Dr Hamer was diagnosed with testicular cancer. Hamer was a healthy man who had not suffered health issues previously, and wondered whether his cancer could have been caused by the psychological conflict shock that he endured following his sons death. He set about using his own cancer patients to conduct research and find out the answer to this question. He discovered that ALL cancers and many other so called ‘disease’ are caused or triggered in the psyche. The role of the brain and the psyche is the most important element in understanding so called ‘disease’.

Also a great RichPlanet talk on the subject by Welsh couple Danielle and Lloyd Bryant.

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[greybeard]

Thanks for all the input to this subject --Im learning from it.
Chris

[greybeard]

The CV19 test is not fit for purpose
This is new information regarding the tests that Dr's base their diagnosis on.
I have posted elsewhere but relevant to where Dr's get their training from.

The first part you may have heard before but perhaps still worth a listen.

The scientific evidence that the tests used to diagnose Covid-19 are just not fit for purpose is in the video
There is a lot of in depth information at a professional level but understandable.

This is important as the whole lockdown etc, is based on a false premise and the mantra Test Test Test continues Draconian measures
Chris
Ps

Please watch to the end --the exesome theory seems to have more merit than the the virus theory.
Explains why people who have had no contact with the virus come down with it.
Not down to infection through transference.
This is very interesting.
There is a thread on the subject I skipped this as I did not understand, I should have persevered.

(PART 1) THE CV19 TEST IS A SCAM, Doctors, Professors, R F Kennedy Claim Worldwide

DOCTORS, PROFESSORS, WORLDWIDE ARE EXPOSING THE LIE


https://www.awakeningchannel.com/post/part-1-the-cv19-test-is-a-scam-doctors-professors-r-f-kennedy-claim-worldwide?postId=5f5383e826374800170cd4ef

Thanks to Delight
Exosomes

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110706-Exosomes&p=1351112&viewfull=1#post1351112

Follow on from Medical Dr's

https://www.awakeningchannel.com/post/part-1-the-cv19-test-is-a-scam-doctors-professors-r-f-kennedy-claim-worldwide?postId=5f5383e826374800170cd4ef

[ByTheNorthernSea]

Brilliant vid, thankyou Greybeard...

[greybeard]

. However, by virtue of the fact that it is not legally, medically or scientifically recognised as a disease or virus it cannot be legislated against, and this makes the whole Act null and void.

The reason for this is that 'covid-19' has not been subjected to the 130 year established legal, medical and scientific procedure that recognises if it is actually a disease or virus or not, which is known as the Koch Postulates. This involves purifying and isolating the 'disease' or 'virus' and proving that it actually causes the illness that it is claimed that it does.

Further, the test that is being used is called the RT-PCR test and the inventor said it should NEVER be used for diagnostics. This is because it is not a 'gold-standard' test that would give 100% accuracy. In fact, there is a false positive rate of 80% for this test. This means that the test is meaningless as it is just testing for genetic material and not coronavirus and even that is only a real positive for one in five people. Other tests being used are as bad or even worse. Further, using these tests anyone can test either positive or negative depending upon how many cycles the specimen is amplified by and as such the tests can be easily rigged.


This pasted from a legal challenge which has been posted before but it evolves with further information,so here again

https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/the-coronavirus-act-2020/

[greybeard]

Exosomes vs Viruses: Scientific Theories Explained
As the media narrative, about Covid-19 has been falling apart so miserably for the mainstream the hunger for real information has grown to a fever pitch. One of the concepts that has been getting a lot of attention is that of exosomes and how they relate to viruses.

The exosome theory goes like this: as your cells are exposed to various environmental toxins and other assaults they react by bundling up genetic material into what is basically a tiny protein ball. These are called exosomes and as they are carried out of your body they serve a few different purposes.

One thing they do is communicate to other cells information about the toxin or whatever other stressors that are causing the release of the exosomes. This helps other cells to prepare for the incoming assault. The other thing the exosomes are doing is helping the cells rebuild and repair by removing problematic genetic material – sort of a cleansing process.

That's the basic concept of exosomes but at its core, this is at the heart of even modern virology theory.

This video has a pretty creative way of explaining this in laypersons terminology so check it out. Thanks to Mikey Landings for creating this video.

And in case you haven't subscribed to Del Bigtree's The Highwire yet his recent episode was as hard-hitting as usual. This one was briefly censored based on a Copywrite violation because of some news clip that was used but they got it solved and got it reposted.

In it, he comments on two senate hearings that took place on both May 11 and May 12, 2020, and May

Among those that testified there were Rand Paul who suggests that there likely won't be a surge in sickness if we go ahead and open up the entire economy. He specifically disputes the position of Dr. Anthony Fauci but he was one of the few controversial voices among those that work for the government who testified on May 12.

On May 11, 2020, however, the story was completely different as there were a number of smart doctors who believe enough is enough and we should get on with our lives.

In this hearing you'll see Scott W. Atlas, MD (Stanford University Medical Center) who says we need to stop doubling down on hypothetical models and stop underestimating empirical data and established medical science. “Science and logic must prevail over fear and worst-case scenarios.” And “It is not logical that younger age groups must somehow be isolated or maintain a six foot spacing from each other. If the infection in low-risk groups is so prevalent, which it is, socializing represents the opportunity for developing the widespread immunity of eradicating the threat to the vulnerable.” “This total isolation policy prevents broad population immunity. We know from decades of medical science that the population develops immunity while acquiring antibodies.”

And John Ioannidis, MD professor from Stanford University says perpetuation of lockdowns may risk many lives.

Daniel L. Katz, MD Founding Director Yale University Medical Center says we need the virus to circulate among people who can safely get it and create antibodies and build immunity to it.

Another topic that was covered was Governor Andrew Cuomo back-peddling on his previous directive to force Nursing homes in New York to take Covid-19 positive patients without refusal. Two months after this directive he reversed the decision on his ridiculous law. Del and Jefferey Jaxen discuss Cuomo's waffling on this law with lack of any apology for his negligence which likely led to many deaths of the elderly.

Del Bigtree also interviews Delores Cahill, PhD about her research which is quite extensive since she has a background of decades of scientific work. This came up after he slammed Matthew McConaughey for making a really dumb video and creating a “Just Keep Livin” foundation which seems to blindly accept a gross overreach of elimination of our civil rights.

There is more on the link though the page was posted some time ago I suspect
Chris


https://www.knowingthetruth.com/exosomes-vs-viruses-scientific-theories-explained/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Im7jsW9_Y&feature=emb_logo

[greybeard]

Shocker! Doctor Shows How Viruses Fight Illness by Removing Cellular Toxins.

https://needtoknow.news/2020/04/shocker-doctor-shows-why-viruses-are-exosomes-instead-of-causing-illness-they-fight-illness-by-activating-an-immune-response-and-removing-cellular-toxins/

Andrew Kaufman, MD, is credentialed in biology, medicine, oncology, and psychiatry. In this presentation, he shows that viruses and exosomes are one-in-the-same. Exosomes are essential to health because they carry toxins out of sick cells and trigger the immune system to attack the cause of the illness. The cause is not the messenger, but something that is injuring the body. Typically, that is toxicity in food, air, water, drugs, electromagnetic exposure, or old age. Any of these cause exosomes to get to work. The significance of this is that the global campaign to identify and kill a dreaded virus is, not only futile, it will cause even more illness triggered by cellular trauma from toxic medications and vaccines. Please re-read that last sentence. -GEG


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGd7-vvd9Y&feature=emb_logo

[greybeard]

DOCTORS, PROFESSORS, LAWYERS... EXPOSING THE CV19 TRUTH
FORM THE CV19 EXTRA-PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY COMMITTEE

English subtitles

https://www.awakeningchannel.com/post/doctors-professors-lawyers-economists-exposing-the-cv19-truth

What I post on the virus tends to be professional proven medical fact from Dr's etc - not my opinion which can obviously be flawed.

Chris

This was recorded July 14th.
The Dr's campaign for truth is very successful.
Now over 1000 Dr's and other professionals worldwide part of this group and growing daily
Over a million people demonstrated on the streets of Berlin.
Robert F Kennedy and others spoke at that demo.
More up to date video from the group clear that the tests are not fit for purpose posted here
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111951-Medical-training-where-does-it-come-from&p=1376292&viewfull=1#post1376292

[Brigantia]

Seeing as Dr Vernon Coleman has been mentioned in this thread, he has announced on YT a new platform for his videos seeing as YT keeps censoring him. I love his wry humour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MGD-SkjUTs

[greybeard]

Thanks Hiker Chick
The full latest video here

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/i-039-m-back-september-6th-2020_ZREIFY8auhMpzzQ.html

He is very clear on the danger of Masks
Vernon has some "Dry" sense of humour, yet his videos are full of verifiable "facts" not opinions.
I am listening and laughing.
Everyone should watch -- many a true word said in jest.

Chris

[greybeard]

Psychologist Rachael Alexander - Overcoming Embarrassment - 15 September 2020


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGQvZwftbBU

This could well belong here as Psychologists are encouraged to recommend drugs to their clients.
They use questionnaires designed by the drug companies to diagnose the condition.
Chris

[TomKat]

I have found some medically trained people so conditioned by their belief that there training is correct that they will not look at contrary evidence with anything like an open mind.


Medical school is brainwashing similar to what the military and many cults practice. Sleep-deprivation and overwork, indoctrinating them to ask "how high?' when someone says "jump."

[greybeard]

How The Establishment Suppresses The Truth About Prescription Drugs

Dr Vernon Coleman


https://brandnewtube.com/watch/how-the-establishment-suppresses-the-truth-about-prescription-drugs_rPXCgiAk8Wt1Eio.html

[avid]

No truer word said, we’re all cowering alone when we could be seeing our families. This is absolutely criminal, to allow government to play health experts being played by Big Pharma - aka BillyGates agenda, so I am calling their bluff, opening my arms to my family and friends, and if the normal flu happens at this time of year (seems to have disappeared at the moment), so be it. Life has to go on. Just keep calm and carry on despite the mainstream bought-and-paid-for by nefariously profiteering rhetoric.
Thanks Chris for your great links.