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rgray222
5th September 2020, 17:50
The purpose of the thread is twofold. Most importantly what do you think the long and short term consequences will be after the election? Also, how do you think the election will play out, will one candidate win in a landslide or will the decision be made in a courtroom instead of at the ballot box?

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I realize that many Avalon (if not most) members are not American but I think we all have a stake in the outcome.

When political parties have these extreme differences, how can civil war be avoided? Can we reasonably expect those in power before the election to peacefully surrender their offices to opponents who they know will pursue policies that are not only unwise or unjust but also wholly destructive of the very ends of the political community? Should the government of the day respect the election results, and quietly hand over power. Or, if it is the challenging party that has lost the election, should it be content to leave peacefully in office people who are not just partisan opponents with disagreeable policies, but dangerous enemies of the country who do not deserve to be considered as legitimate governing officials? And what if the election result was very close, and perhaps also included (as is generally the way with close elections) some very contestable counting of the votes? Why should either a governing or a challenging party accept an unfavorable election outcome determined by a few doubtfully legitimate vote counts, when such important principles are at stake?

I have been thinking about this for a few months and I don't see a scenario that is without civil unrest and/or some type of violence. Some of the outcomes appear to have very dire ramifications. Also, one can't help but wonder if the COVID lockdowns, racial unrest (BLM) and ANTIFA anarchist have been intentionally unleashed prior to the election.

The topic is not about which candidate you support it is about the fallout after the election. Thanks

ExomatrixTV
5th September 2020, 18:32
See my comment here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111797-What-s-the-2020-October-Surprise&p=1372801&viewfull=1#post1372801) :typing: (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111797-What-s-the-2020-October-Surprise&p=1372801&viewfull=1#post1372801)

Karen (Geophyz)
5th September 2020, 18:35
I think there will be riots and civil unrest and violence no matter who wins. The country will be ravaged and people will die. Again, I am fortunate to live in the country. It will not change my lifestyle much but many people will be affected. Society as we know it may very well break down for a time. What results from this is yet to be seen.

Sarah Rainsong
5th September 2020, 18:36
Wonderful thread. As my dear husband pointed out after we watched the below video, if we still don't have a declared winner to the election come January, we could end up with Pelosi, aka Yzma "scary beyond all reason" for president. :scared:

However, I was listening to the latest Dark Journalist episode (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018&p=1376072&viewfull=1#post1376072) earlier (usually takes days for me to finish those, and this episode is not an exception--so I haven't finished it), and he was talking about the continuity of government, and the plans for a military leader to take over in the event something happened to the president and vice president. That's equally disturbing, maybe even more so. At least the Speaker is within the workings of the Constitution.

Regardless, as things stand right now, I don't see any good coming from this election, and I don't see it being decided on Nov. 3. Krystal makes some very good points in comparing the upcoming election to the fiasco of Bush-Gore back in 2000. It took weeks and the supreme court to get a conclusion in that one state, and we're looking at a repeat of that many times over. And the nation wasn't near as divided. It's not a very good scenario.

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greybeard
5th September 2020, 18:48
I think Trump has something up his sleeve --he is a master at timing and will convince enough of the electorate to have a sizable win.
Chris

Gwin Ru
5th September 2020, 19:00
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TomKat
6th September 2020, 00:08
Trump will win, but the Dems will take both houses of congress. They will again attempt to kill him in the media and with legal manoeuvres such as impeachment, and he will die in the middle of his second term. The man can take a punch but he can't throw one.

rgray222
7th September 2020, 18:18
In America, talk turns to something not spoken of for 150 years: Civil war

At a moment when the country has never seemed angrier, two political commentators from opposite sides of the divide concurred recently on one point that was once nearly unthinkable: The country is on the verge of “civil war.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/2018-06-03_16-08-55.jpg?itok=rm2QVBfC

The next day, Nicolle Wallace, a former Republican operative turned MSNBC commentator and Trump critic, played a clip of di­Genova’s commentary on her show and agreed with him — although she placed the blame squarely on the president.

Trump, she said, “greenlit a war in this country around race. And if you think about the most dangerous thing he’s done, that might be it.”

A tumultuous couple of weeks in American politics seem to have raised the rhetorical flourishes to a new level and also brought a troubling question to the surface: At what point does all the alarmist talk of civil war actually increase the prospect of violence, riots or domestic terrorism?

Speaking to conservative pundit Laura Ingraham, diGenova summed up his best advice to friends: “I vote, and I buy guns. And that’s what you should do.”

This article was written before the impeachment vote and now the rhetoric and the intolerance has ramped up even further.

Ro read the full story:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-america-talk-turns-to-something-unspoken-for-150-years-civil-war/2019/02/28/b3733af8-3ae4-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html

TomKat
8th September 2020, 00:29
Trump, she said, “greenlit a war in this country around race. And if you think about the most dangerous thing he’s done, that might be it."

The Democrats are trying to instigate a race war. That's why they immediately declared Trump a racist because he wanted a wall. That's why they've been burning buildings and toppling statues. And of course, they hope to pin the war on Trump.

rgray222
8th September 2020, 01:28
Trump, she said, “greenlit a war in this country around race. And if you think about the most dangerous thing he’s done, that might be it."

The Democrats are trying to instigate a race war. That's why they immediately declared Trump a racist because he wanted a wall. That's why they've been burning buildings and toppling statues. And of course, they hope to pin the war on Trump.


If you read my post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111435-Black-Lives-Matter&p=1365288&viewfull=1#post1365288) on the BLM thread you will see that Politico published a story back in 2015 talking about secret meetings in the White House with BLM and other organizations. The purpose was to select a group which turned out to be BLM to interject racial tensions into politics with their sights set on the 2020 election.

Franny
21st September 2020, 07:17
Earlier last week a friend sent me this group email, seen below, that she received from a friend. She says he's really not an alarmist or a drama king, he's pretty solid and dependable.

It does seem plausible to me and quite close to what many of us have deduced anyway.

If you aren't prepared for SHTF or food and supply shortages it might be a good idea to do what you can. If you don't have weapons at least get pepper spray and bear spray - it's a step up from nothing at all.


My friends, I’m NOT an alarmist. I’m not. BUT, I heard something tonight that scared the pants off me.

Many of you know me “in person” and not just on Facebook, and you know that I have many contacts all through government that I’ve developed over decades of service. I’m nothing special but I do have these avenues.

I was told TODAY that on or soon after Election Day a true revolt and uprising will take place. It’s being organized now.

This came from someone who is in government and who told me he’s extremely concerned. I cannot tell you WHO told me this. I can only tell you I’m taking heed. This man NEVER shares this information freely EVER.

He said to me the following:

In the next two months an uprising is coming and the government is preparing for Nationwide Marshall Law.

1: He said to immediately stock up on goods needed to survive and support life for your family : Food, Water, paper goods , defensive weapons (bullets etc) and a amazingly he emphasized having on hand spare fuel and a generator. He is worried for HIS FAMILY. (Again with his position that statement shocked me).

2: He told me the anarchist groups that are growing in this nation daily will begin with much larger and broader protests then they are having now and they will move them swiftly into suburbia. They will have Democrat hierarchy support.

They will employ “Shock and Awe” tactics. They will employ “lockdowns” that are mandatory to minimize organized public resistance.

He told me that this is not hyperbole but they have people on the inside verifying the planning. This information is quietly going to law enforcement agency’s nationwide. Bounty’s are on law enforcement heads especially. They are well funded.

3: If Trump wins, the left will (and is actively planning) to lash out at law enforcement nationwide and against the civilian population for putting Trump back in office. They will seek death of innocents (such as the two deputies in California and children ) as payback for their loss of power. Trump WILL and is preparing to declare MARTIAL LAW NATIONWIDE.

If Biden wins, the LEFT will (and is actively planning) to unleash fury on the nation and citizenry as payback for the past four years of Trump.

Biden and Harris will sit back and let this happen. Biden will openly advocate for the further defunding of the majority of police nationwide and Harris will rule by proxy.

Again, you know I have never been an alarmist but the source of this information and his place in government is unimpeachable. Again, I was SHOCKED by the source of the info and it is a person I trust implicitly.

He told me that BLM and related fringe groups must AND WILL be destroyed by force and that plans are being made to do this and restore law and order. But, until all this comes to pass it’s going to get bad even in the rural areas so the left can have maximum “shock and awe” effect and drive fear into the nation to submit to BLM and the democrat new order.

To lay it out plainly, he is talking of a true civil war brewing and they are preparing for it at the highest levels.

I am taking what I heard tonight seriously and we are preparing. I implore you to do so as well. - (Name withheld by me)

greybeard
21st September 2020, 08:34
One way or another I think the boil will be lanced.
We have to go through chaos world wide in order to see a "new tomorrow"
Funnily enough Eckhart Tolle in his book "The Power of Now" talks of this in broad terms, as far as I remember.
I lent the book years ago (fatal) so cant refresh my memory.
Difficult times now and more to come but Im convinced that there will be a change for the better and personal freedom will persist.
Chris

Ratszinger
21st September 2020, 08:59
Trump is going to win, the left is going to shout to the high heavens to rebuke it saying that Russian help and cheating are responsible! There will be riots, mostly in the east and major blue cities, the military will already be in the streets by this time but foreign troops will be seen also! Since many of the people are not actually American but infiltrated dissidents from foreign lands in these protests with BLM or ANTIFA in most cases and from out of state in others, and already angry at the system, now fully convinced if they don't revolt their lives are over it will be hell on earth. Marshal Law, military in the streets and dissident crack down using deadly force is likely.

After this all public servants should be made to wear bib overalls as their work clothing so as to never forget again they are servants to the people! Besides that these gang members have hijacked the dress for success model making it gang attire so that all has to go!

No more lobbyist gifts!

No more pork!

No more insider trading! You do it you go to jail just like I do and Martha Stewart did!

No career politicians! 2 terms max and you're out and just because you served four years doesn't mean you get to leave with the "Golden Parachute" so large your feet never have to touch the ground again! Those big $$$$ deals are a thing of the past! You go back to your old job when you are done with a thank you! Nothing more!!

norman
21st September 2020, 14:03
They won't kill the internet or phone services, they need them too much for that, but they might kill our access to them so that we only have the msm to tell us 'who won' and what's going on.

Bill Ryan
1st October 2020, 20:04
I have to say, I'm increasingly thinking that the worst-case scenario if there's a Biden-Harris victory (which I do very profoundly doubt) is that, after some time has passed, patriotic white Americans would start to be rounded up and persecuted, sadistically or worse, like European Jews in 1938.

It's not "likely". But such a thing doesn't seem 100.00% impossible.

Karen (Geophyz)
1st October 2020, 20:31
I have to say, I'm increasingly thinking that the worst-case scenario if there's a Biden-Harris victory (which I do very profoundly doubt) is that, after some time has passed, patriotic white Americans would start to be rounded up and persecuted, sadistically or worse, like European Jews in 1938.

It's not "likely". But such a thing doesn't seem 100.00% impossible.

I agree with you except for the Harris-Biden win, I sincerely believe they will do whatever is necessary to win. And if they lose they will never admit it. I am afraid life in the US is about to change dramatically. Venezuela comes to mind. I believe the states will be split and many patriotic white Americans will end up in states like Texas and Alaska. Where they will fend off the others. It will be bloody and violent.

T Smith
1st October 2020, 22:15
Trump wins the conventional votes, but there is no fair (or in-place mechanism) to accurately count the unsolicited mail-in COVID votes. This process is not like absentee ballots, despite the popular propaganda to the contrary, which in the past were (mostly) solicited and accounted for. Stacks of unsolicited votes will be discarded (https://www.wric.com/news/politics/2020-election/box-of-mail-absentee-ballots-found-in-wisconsin-ditch/); other stacks will be generated (https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2020/02/12/harvesting-votes-to-win-in-2020/#3602159336e9) via fiat, all to suit a desired result depending on the official tally of the conventional votes. Bear in mind--and this is the critical point--there is no regulatory mechanism or oversight to this entire process--this is a 100% Venezuela/Banana Republic-like s*!t-show operation in the full control of centralized and corrupted partisan officials (unlike the decentralized voting process administered by honestly-regulated local municipalities).

The results from the magic ballots, which have been mailed to nearly 40% of the population by the same centralized and corrupted partisan officials under the guise of the COVID pandemic--mainly in key swing states--will be statistically impossible (70% - 80% will come in for Biden), which the Biden camp will argue is due to the Biden/Harris voting bloc preference to enfranchise itself by mail due to COVID, while the irresponsible Trump voter's preference is to vote in person.

If the current POTUS lays down to this, which seems unlikely given his cantankerous propensity, Biden/Harris will be the next administration and Agenda 2030/NWO/Eugenics/Austerity/Global World War/Take Down of the American Republic (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111213-The-planned-takedown-of-America-now--June-2020--in-full-swing.)will resume in full swing.

If the current POTUS challenges the results (or refuses to accept them on grounds of fraud), and if the US Supreme Court can't (or won't) resolve the dispute, the Agenda 2030/NWO/Eugenics/Austerity/Global World War/Take Down of the American Republic propaganda apparatus, aka the MSM/Big-Tech controlled Social Media Cabal, will brand Trump Hitler 2.0 for refusing to step down, which will trigger a hot civil war in the United States and possibly World War III. Bedlam will ensue, factions within the US military and the alphabet agencies will emerge, lines will be drawn, divisions forged. How the battle (or battles) will ensue is yet unknown.

Unfortunately, the scenario above isn't fanciful insight on my part. Nor is it unique analysis. This is is pretty much the mainstream understanding of what is about to go down. And yes, as alarming as it sounds, it still sounds much more plausible to me than "Trump Wins" or "Biden Wins"....

East Sun
1st October 2020, 22:46
I will not vote because presidents are chosen well in advance of elections ,
by "them" although we don't want to acknowledge that fact.
IMO Trump will "win" because his mission is not yet accomplished.

Heartsong
1st October 2020, 23:21
I think the election and tallying it's outcome will be a bit dicey but by February we will be back to what we have lived with the last two years. The two parties will be at each other's necks. Riots will be old news but not entirely forgotten. Americans like their comfort. We have the virus. We have the economic downturn. And, we have bad governance. We'll make it cause one way or another we love this country and we'll ride out the storm. In ten years this will be history and we'll be contending with something else.

Bill Ryan
2nd October 2020, 00:36
...presidents are chosen well in advance of elections ,
by "them" although we don't want to acknowledge that fact. Nope, not in this case.

Old Student
2nd October 2020, 00:52
My state made plans to mail ballots to every registered voter in the state more than a year before COVID. It was part of a vote simplification plan implemented to comply with a statewide referendum. It had nothing to do with COVID.

And it also has zero zilch nada to do with asking for an absentee ballot.

Oregon and Washington state have had that system for years.

So your initial premise, at least with respect to the most populous state in the union, is completely false.

Bill Ryan
2nd October 2020, 00:56
My state made plans to mail ballots to every registered voter in the state more than a year before COVID. It was part of a vote simplification plan implemented to comply with a statewide referendum. It had nothing to do with COVID.

And it also has zero zilch nada to do with asking for an absentee ballot.

Oregon and Washington state have had that system for years.

So your initial premise, at least with respect to the most populous state in the union, is completely false.Yes — but regardless of any original laudable intention, the present issue is how very easily this could be abused by those with an agenda to interfere with legitimate results.

AriG
2nd October 2020, 02:01
Well, as descendant of the original settlers of America, I can say that elections mattered through perhaps JFKs election, then they became gerrymandering pathetic excuses for free choice. Trumps victory in 2016 was a prime example of this phenomenon. The electoral college, designed to be a great
Equalizer in a constitutional Republic, when employed in a mobile society, became an instrument of voter manipulation. We should really be counting the popular vote. It is more representative of the will of the people in a society wherein relocation is a norm. No need to handicap the data. That said? Trump must be allowed fourmore years and his score should be handicapped to reflect the injustice that has been levied against us all. The IMF and their minions are devils deserving of the worst suffering. The Democrats are their lapdogs

T Smith
2nd October 2020, 03:28
Well, as descendant of the original settlers of America, I can say that elections mattered through perhaps JFKs election, then they became gerrymandering pathetic excuses for free choice. Trumps victory in 2016 was a prime example of this phenomenon. The electoral college, designed to be a great
Equalizer in a constitutional Republic, when employed in a mobile society, became an instrument of voter manipulation. We should really be counting the popular vote. It is more representative of the will of the people in a society wherein relocation is a norm. No need to handicap the data. That said? Trump must be allowed fourmore years and his score should be handicapped to reflect the injustice that has been levied against us all. The IMF and their minions are devils deserving of the worst suffering. The Democrats are their lapdogs

Here's the problem with the popular vote. Three or four concentrated population centers in the country, e.g., New York Tri-State Area, California, and maybe Metropolitan Texas/Illinois, would decide all elections. The popular vote in these centers would essentially disenfranchise 80% (or more) of the remaining geographical areas of the country, most of which maintain radically different interests due to their geographical locations, including very important agricultural, rural, and intellectual centers integral to the country. The United States is not a conglomerate of four metropolitan centers, despite the fact that these centers easily tip the balance of the popular vote.

Also, our form of government in the United States is a representative Republic. We are not a democracy. Raw democracy is conducive to tyranny, i.e. the Tyranny of the Majority, as Alexis de Tocqueville observed; 51% of the population should never have the power to strip 49% of its inalienable rights, freedoms, and/or disenfranchise self-representation of the minority.

It is tempting to fall into the trap of eliminating the electoral college, but upon further reflection, the Founders really did understand what system of governance they were establishing.

azproductions
5th October 2020, 03:06
Do you think we’re headed for a third world? What are your thoughts?

bettye198
6th October 2020, 01:00
At the risk of sounding biased, I am almost certain there will be a shift toward a republic of states. Long ago if you remember, there were visionaries that projected that America would be split into 13 colonies with each having a leader. I am looking at California, a state I left, as unbearable and intolerable with its taxes, restrictions, and a whole antithesis toward righteousness [not Biblical here] as in doing the right thing for others. Being in the mode of serving others, not self serving. Yet, this is just an example. New York is a huge example. Aside from that, the visionaries who saw this, could be right or seeing a different timeline.

Trump has done some very dangerous but brave things in the last four years. He has allowed a compilation of NSA data that could bury countries if exposed to its citizens. He has given executive orders to allow military tribunals to arrest criminals on his own soil who have repeatedly committed crimes against humanity. He has formulated cooperation from many countries alliances and military to go after the scum criminal pedophilia's once and for all. He has attracted alignment with the Prince Saudi Solomon to help with the cause. And many other leaders, some administrations who have felt held hostage to the evil leadership have welcomed his bravery. I am of the belief not everyone is made of the dark cloth and there are still some in government who have felt the contagion of that kind of evil. The arrests and executions have been in the thousands. We have no exact number but he, being groomed in global business, had the chutzpah to follow his intent and face the worst adversaries in the first two years of his term.

We see turmoil and chaos hoping order will follow. I believe there has to be a polarity of good in all this. That once a confident soul moves forth through the muck and mire, something good must come forth. We hear about once elected, transparency will be forthcoming, that 'cures' and medical advancements and free energy applications will be available. We hear about Nesara Gesara that can literally change the way we live our lives.

I am not thumping a Bible or waiting on Jesus. I simply believe that humanity is due for a chance to elevate itself and see a world less complicated and fearful. If it takes a lion of a man to walk on hot coals to reach the finish line, I can hold that vision because up to now in my long life, nothing has impressed me one bit.

thepainterdoug
6th October 2020, 02:05
regardless of the outcome in November , something has to be done about this sick ,polluted and corrupt press and bought media.

how can the people choose with a such skewered and dishonest reporting ?

the media is the real enemy of this country and its freedoms.

Gwin Ru
6th October 2020, 02:49
At the risk of sounding biased, I am almost certain there will be a shift toward a republic of states. Long ago if you remember, there were visionaries that projected that America would be split into 13 colonies with each having a leader. I am looking at California, a state I left, as unbearable and intolerable with its taxes, restrictions, and a whole antithesis toward righteousness [not Biblical here] as in doing the right thing for others. Being in the mode of serving others, not self serving. Yet, this is just an example. New York is a huge example. Aside from that, the visionaries who saw this, could be right or seeing a different timeline.The time line has shifted with a little help from high places...

MIC DROP! WARNING from GROUND COMMAND (LIFE FORCE MEETING) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zSWdYC77Wo) 44:10

•Oct 6, 2020

https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJzWGGaZLe2N4AVGS-_eSRYpS-mZmAIcQXF1ryIyBA=s48-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsTzmojEh6B205Iz8XadBLQ) SPEAK Project (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsTzmojEh6B205Iz8XadBLQ)

Greenland trip...

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rgray222
6th October 2020, 02:53
regardless of the outcome in November , something has to be done about this sick ,polluted and corrupt press and bought media.

how can the people choose with a such skewered and dishonest reporting ?

the media is the real enemy of this country and its freedoms.

I believe the news media is at the heart of the divisiveness and the hatred that is descending over the USA at the present time. It is almost impossible to get honest news and every single issue has been politicized. For the last 5-6 years, even the fires in the west, hurricanes in the east and sports have taken on a noxious political slant. Unfortunately, it is unavoidable. I see no solution in sight except to limit your intake of news and ride it out.

Mark (Star Mariner)
6th October 2020, 13:53
Beware deep fakes.

Putin Video Released Day of Debate Was Actually Deepfake Video from Anti-Trump Group

An anti-Trump group is under attack after releasing a so-called “deepfake” video featuring Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un telling viewers to “save the election.”

The video, which was supposed to air in the nation’s capital, shows the two leaders discussing how important voting and democracy are — ironic, given neither of the two presides over a democracy.

“America, you blame me for interfering with your democracy, but I don’t have to,” the deepfake Putin is shown saying.

“You’re doing it to yourselves. Polling stations are closing. You don’t know who to trust. You are divided.”

While the video was supposed to air in the Washington area, networks decided against airing the ad, created by “nonpartisan” (ho ho) group RepresentUs at the last minute.

http://www.madnesshub.com/2020/10/putin-video-released-day-of-debate-was.html

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These were known deepfakes (the voices are a giveaway immediately), but given the level of sophistication now possible, there probably will be more of these, and better examples. It's a scary thing that they would go to these lengths to trick people (but not surprising). And some will fall for it. This ploy should be kept in mind as the run in to the election heats up.

https://twitter.com/MikaelThalen/status/1311696656061009920

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Gwin Ru
6th October 2020, 15:05
[...]The time line has shifted with a little help from high places...
[...]
Greenland trip...

[...]

Regarding Trump's Covid "positiveness", there are these other data from Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.vc8.html):
Trump does not have Corona and is instead on a ship at sea. (http://82.221.129.208/.vc8.html)

Update: supposedly he drove by Walter Reed to say hi to everyone through the window but I find that implausible, I suspect a double did that.

I figured out something about a video he posted today - and it is good news. I also did not want to post this for his own security but someone else figured it out on a forum and got total agreement so I figured the genie is out of the bottle so I might as well post it -

IF, and only IF this video Trump posted today really was recorded today, Trump is not at Walter Reed hospital, he is on a ship, and not even a military quality one. (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1312525833505058816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1312525833505058816%7Ctwgr% 5Eshare_3)

Military quality ships have full stabilization and you can't even tell you are at sea. The ship he is on has stabilization, but it is not military grade stabilization. It looks like he's on a super yacht. I would not be surprised. . . . .

Blow that video up to full screen and watch it. The camera gets nyquist noise on the flag stripes at precise intervals. Even if the camera is stabilized, the flags are not and this regular rythmic appearance of nyquist noise, without the flags actually appearing to sway, is exactly what you'd get on a ship if the ship has good, but not perfect stabilization.

I hope to God this video is legitimately from today and not pre-recorded, if it is, Trump is under protection.

I REPEAT: I did not want to say this. I knew about it but did not think anyone else would figure it out. I wanted to keep Trump's secret but some stupid smart two year old figured it out and spilled the beans.
Regarding the Walter Reed dude:
Trump signs blank paper in Walter Reed for photo op


http://82.221.129.208/bodydoublesign.png

Why would that be a blockbuster?

Because a body double can't sign a real document, that's why.

Back to the boat theory??? Whaddayaknow??? I got something REAL off Drudge, I just had to change it away from the Trump ripping context he stated it.

YES FOLKS, IF "TRUMP" IS SIGNING BLANK PAPERS, IT IS NOT TRUMP!!!

azproductions
6th October 2020, 17:20
Hey guys!
I have been thinking of the next coming months and how bad it’s gonna get.. How much food I should have in storage, how much I need to prepare. I search online but there’s not too much information, except some speculation. I feel like this is the beginning of a 3 act play. We’re going into act 2 now, and I’m wondering what’s next? Food shortages? Blackouts? Shutdown of humanity before 2021?

I thought about a Third World War. Is that possible? Maybe..but it would be different from the previous world wars. Then I started thinking of biological weapons. The virus.

And then I thought, what if they release a new virus, one that’s actually deadly, one that spreads like crazy? I’m not thinking zombies, but then again, I prepare myself mentally for even THAT to happen. At this point, anything is possible, LOL. I think of the movie Contagion, World War Z, and I know they’re just movies.. but they tend to put a lot of symbols and hints of what’s to come in all the films they release. Everything is symbolism..

I feel like this COVID crap is just the beginning, and something more deadly is coming. I feel it in the air, I just know bad is coming, and maybe soon.

But, I also don’t know. I suppose no one knows for sure. I wanna hear what you guys think. What’s next with this virus? Will it mutate? And what’s to come in the following months?

Elainie
6th October 2020, 17:48
Hey guys!
I have been thinking of the next coming months and how bad it’s gonna get.. How much food I should have in storage, how much I need to prepare. I search online but there’s not too much information, except some speculation. I feel like this is the beginning of a 3 act play. We’re going into act 2 now, and I’m wondering what’s next? Food shortages? Blackouts? Shutdown of humanity before 2021?

I thought about a Third World War. Is that possible? Maybe..but it would be different from the previous world wars. Then I started thinking of biological weapons. The virus.

And then I thought, what if they release a new virus, one that’s actually deadly, one that spreads like crazy? I’m not thinking zombies, but then again, I prepare myself mentally for even THAT to happen. At this point, anything is possible, LOL. I think of the movie Contagion, World War Z, and I know they’re just movies.. but they tend to put a lot of symbols and hints of what’s to come in all the films they release. Everything is symbolism..

I feel like this COVID crap is just the beginning, and something more deadly is coming. I feel it in the air, I just know bad is coming, and maybe soon.

But, I also don’t know. I suppose no one knows for sure. I wanna hear what you guys think. What’s next with this virus? Will it mutate? And what’s to come in the following months?

All in plain sight.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ_I4yKdrs8&feature=emb_title

rgray222
10th October 2020, 01:58
Are we getting a preview of how people and certain groups will act after the election is over? If this group was willing to kidnap a sitting governor and put her on trial for alleged or even perceived crimes against the country then it seems that anything may be possible. Here is an article from the NYTimes

Just an FYI, this article does state that Whitmer is blaming Trump for the attempted kidnapping but the article does not mention that these men had posted on social media that they also hated Trump. Two of the alleged kidnappers were also BLM protesters.

What We Know About the Alleged Plot to Kidnap Michigan’s Governor

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Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan has become a focal point of anti-government anger over the severe measures she imposed to try to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

The authorities in Michigan revealed on Thursday what they said was a detailed plot to abduct Gov. Gretchen Whitmer ahead of the presidential election, a plan that included surveilling one of her homes and trying to buy explosives to blow up a bridge.

The F.B.I. and state authorities charged 13 men who they said were part of, or working with, an anti-government group with a range of crimes including terrorism, conspiracy and gun offenses. The men had referred to the governor in vulgar terms, the authorities said, and seemed to be motivated by a belief that she was a “tyrant” who was violating the Constitution.

Ms. Whitmer, a Democrat, has become a focal point of anti-government and conservative anger over the severe measures she imposed on businesses and residents as she tried to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

What do the authorities say the men were planning to do?
The group that planned the kidnapping met repeatedly over the summer for firearms training and combat drills and practiced building explosives, the F.B.I. said. Members also gathered several times to discuss the mission, including in the basement of a shop that was accessible only through a “trap door” under a rug.

The men spied on Ms. Whitmer’s vacation home in August and September, even looking under a highway bridge for places they could place and detonate a bomb to distract the authorities, the F.B.I. said. They indicated that they wanted to take Ms. Whitmer hostage before the election in November, and one man said they should take her to a “secure location” in Wisconsin for a “trial,” Richard J. Trask II, an F.B.I. special agent, said in the criminal complaint.

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William Null, left, and Michael Null, right, who were charged by the state of Michigan and said to be part of an anti-government extremist group, protested Ms. Whitmer’s coronavirus protection orders in April in Lansing.Credit

Mr. Trask said that one of those arrested had bought a Taser for the mission last week and that the men had been planning to buy explosives on Wednesday. The F.B.I. said it had monitored the kidnapping plot throughout the summer as the target narrowed to the governor’s personal vacation home.

“Have one person go to her house. Knock on the door and when she answers it just cap her,” one of the men said in an encrypted group chat, according to the F.B.I.

The group also spoke of a “baker” and a “cake,” the F.B.I. said, which its agents interpreted as code words referring to explosive devices.

Who are the men?
The F.B.I. said Adam Fox, of Michigan, was a leader in the kidnapping plot and had reached out to members of an anti-government group for help devising the abduction.

State authorities arrested seven members of the group, known as the Wolverine Watchmen, and accused them of collecting addresses of police officers in order to target them, threatening to start a civil war “leading to societal collapse” and planning to kidnap the governor and other government officials.

The six men charged by the federal authorities each face one count of federal conspiracy, which carries a sentence of up to life in prison. The seven men charged with state crimes could face penalties of between two and 20 years in prison.

In addition to Mr. Fox, the men charged by the federal authorities were listed in court documents as Kaleb Franks, Brandon Caserta, Ty Garbin, Daniel Harris and Barry Croft. Mr. Croft lives in Delaware and the other five men live in Michigan. All of the men charged by the state are Michigan residents, the attorney general said.

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None of the appointed lawyers for the men charged by the federal authorities commented on the charges.

The men charged by the state were identified as Paul Bellar, 21; Shawn Fix, 38; Eric Molitor, 36; Michael Null, 38; William Null, 38; Pete Musico, 42; and Joseph Morrison, 26. A spokesman for the attorney general’s office said that six of the seven men were arraigned on Friday and that one, Mr. Bellar, had been arrested in South Carolina where the authorities were working to bring him to Michigan.

The Null brothers both attended a protest against Ms. Whitmer’s coronavirus control measures at the State Capitol in April, and were pictured carrying long guns and wearing protective gear. Sheriff Dar Leaf of Barry County, Mich., spoke at the protest and told a local television station this week that he did not regret sharing the stage with the men.

To read the rest of the story: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/09/us/michigan-militia-whitmer.html?auth=login-facebook

Mark (Star Mariner)
10th October 2020, 14:23
More on the above story.

'White Supremacist' Suspect In Michigan Kidnapping Plot Is Actually A Trump-Hating Anarchist
OCTOBER 9, 2020 By Evita Duffy

A new video of one of the 13 men arrested and charged in an alleged kidnapping plot against Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer shows the suspect is a Trump-hating anarchist despite media claims the plot was hatched by pro-Trump white supremacists.

“You know Trump is not your friend, dude,” said Brandon Caserta, with a large anarchist flag hanging on his wall behind him. “And it amazes me that people actually, like, believe that. When he’s shown over and over and over again that he’s a tyrant. Every single person that works for government is your enemy, dude.”

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1314326901683617792

More: https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/09/white-supremacist-suspect-in-michigan-kidnapping-plot-is-actually-a-trump-hating-anarchist/

Savannah
10th October 2020, 17:25
I would agree with most of what people have posted here in predicting riots, unrest, shut downs etc. However IMO I see most of this coming now due to the pole shift/micro nova and resulting Ice Age and eventual change in planetary frequency. These political events are accruing because the controlling families have to “Reset” the farming practices. They have controlled the farm for a long long time and have done so during past golden ages. They know the play book but they may not be able to predict how each age changes due the earth’s position in the Milky Way as we move toward the Galactic Center during each Yuga. We have a possible spiritual/duality war or war between the common man, some rich, & military, against the blood line families. As pointed out the racial nonsense and COV19 are just tactics for unrest and further destabilization used in every country. Thus I think we will see natural (possible man made) disasters that allow both sides to make tactical moves. If we have a major disaster such a mega quake, asteroid, major volcanic eruption etc. that can result in a wild card they will each use to their advantage. Loss of communication and depopulation allows control of the narrative and the victor to rewriting history ergo further control. The recent Crypto Viewing Group session reported a dystopian devastated world controlled by space technology with ET hybrids . The future populous will believe we, you and I, were racists polluters’ who destroyed the Earth. Thus the narrative that will be spun is the Global Warming BS, it’s all the fault of humans so we can control you. I can only hope that time line does not predominate.

Elainie
10th October 2020, 17:51
I would agree with most of what people have posted here in predicting riots, unrest, shut downs etc. However IMO I see most of this coming now due to the pole shift/micro nova and resulting Ice Age and eventual change in planetary frequency. These political events are accruing because the controlling families have to “Reset” the farming practices. They have controlled the farm for a long long time and have done so during past golden ages. They know the play book but they may not be able to predict how each age changes due the earth’s position in the Milky Way as we move toward the Galactic Center during each Yuga. We have a possible spiritual/duality war or war between the common man, some rich, & military, against the blood line families. As pointed out the racial nonsense and COV19 are just tactics for unrest and further destabilization used in every country. Thus I think we will see natural (possible man made) disasters that allow both sides to make tactical moves. If we have a major disaster such a mega quake, asteroid, major volcanic eruption etc. that can result in a wild card they will each use to their advantage. Loss of communication and depopulation allows control of the narrative and the victor to rewriting history ergo further control. The recent Crypto Viewing Group session reported a dystopian devastated world controlled by space technology with ET hybrids . The future populous will believe we, you and I, were racists polluters’ who destroyed the Earth. Thus the narrative that will be spun is the Global Warming BS, it’s all the fault of humans so we can control you. I can only hope that time line does not predominate.


Yes, that Great Reset blind tasked target still leaves a few unanswered questions though, Edward when asked didn't see the mantis symbol as being ET,to me it's Reptoid factions fighting with Mantis faction. I wish they probed further, left more unanswered questions as far as I'm concerned rather than answered.

Savannah
10th October 2020, 21:04
I think its a series and there are upcoming parts, didn't Dick want to talk about something at first and said he would save it for the next video. Edward seemed very shaken by what he saw. I have never seen him curse and be so oppositional to any analysis of what he saw. I think he was in shock. It was really disturbing. I think Edward couldn't see the realty of what he got because he doesn't want that realty.

Antagenet
11th October 2020, 01:25
The purpose of the thread is twofold. Most importantly what do you think the long and short term consequences will be after the election? Also, how do you think the election will play out, will one candidate win in a landslide or will the decision be made in a courtroom instead of at the ballot box?

I have been thinking about this for a few months and I don't see a scenario that is without civil unrest and/or some type of violence. Some of the outcomes appear to have very dire ramifications. Also, one can't help but wonder if the COVID lockdowns, racial unrest (BLM) and ANTIFA anarchist have been intentionally unleashed prior to the election.

The topic is not about which candidate you support it is about the fallout after the election. Thanks

Possible scenarios as I see it:

1.A grave, manufactured danger derails the election and there is none. (China war with USA, for farmable land, which they need) (A more deadly viral strain of covid or some other pathogen) (False Flag "alien" attack) (Global financial collapse)
The reason, of course, is to give the controllers more power and to depopulate us.

2. A Trump win. Left riots, marshall law called by Trump. Patriots celebrate. Law and Order restored. Communists go underground to plan their
next attack in 4 years. Globalists count on the upcoming ice age and/or food shortages to do the depopulation.

3. Harris wins, Biden figurehead. Left initially celebrates but the economy tanks and everyone is scared and nervous and hoarding in earnest. When taxes are raised, Patriot Americans finally revolt and the left responds by going into demolition mode. Civil war. Globalists use UN troops and foreign invasion likely. Certain conservative states leave USA and form a new republic. Globalists may or may not allow this, for selfish reasons.

4. The selection takes place and the creeping technocracy gives us vaccines, chips, maybe some temptations like free money, free energy, in exchange for obedience. The benefits will be very hard to resist but there will be some of us who go even further off-grid and rebel.

There are so many variables one needs a very good crystal ball to foresee the outcome/s.

Ami
11th October 2020, 07:00
Can someone provide a link to the video being discussed please? The video mentioned above about the remote viewers Dick & Edward. I looked on youtube but I cannot find this specific video. Thank you very much!

Elainie
11th October 2020, 13:41
Can someone provide a link to the video being discussed please? The video mentioned above about the remote viewers Dick & Edward. I looked on youtube but I cannot find this specific video. Thank you very much!

You can only access it if you're a member of that site. I can try to lay out the bullet points later. A civil war is sparked after an assassination attempt (presumed Trump). That's the catalyst event, followed by earth cataclysms, the players involved (way beyond World Economic forum, think ET's, entities) a harvest of souls, two battling factions (mantoids versus reptoids) in a checkmate, much more, will write more later.

Mark (Star Mariner)
11th October 2020, 14:12
3. Harris wins, Biden figurehead. Left initially celebrates but the economy tanks and everyone is scared and nervous and hoarding in earnest. When taxes are raised, Patriot Americans finally revolt and the left responds by going into demolition mode. Civil war.


Keith Olbermann: ‘Trump and His Supporters Must Be Prosecuted, Convicted and Removed From Our Society’

Former ESPN host Keith Olbermann ran right up to the line in a revolutionary-style anti-Trump rant on his YouTube channel Thursday calling for the prosecution, conviction and removal from society of President Trump, his supporters and conservatives including Supreme Court nominee Judge Amy Coney Barrett.

Olbermann: “Trump can be and must be expunged. The hate he has triggered, the Pandora’s Box he has opened, they will not be so easily destroyed. So, let us brace ourselves. The task is two-fold. The terrorist Trump must be defeated, must be destroyed, must be devoured at the ballot box. And then he and his enablers and his supporters and his collaborators and the Mike Lees and the William Barrs and the Sean Hannitys and the Mike Pences and the Rudy Giulianis and the Kyle Rittenhouses and the Amy Coney Barretts must be prosecuted and convicted and removed from our society while we try to rebuild it, and to rebuild the world Trump has nearly destroyed by turning it over to a virus.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Keith-Olbermann-YouTube-Screen-Image-10082020-600x341.jpg

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/keith-olbermann-trump-supporters-must-prosecuted-convicted-removed-society/

Gwin Ru
11th October 2020, 14:31
...

The above transcript is included in the following account of a lucid dream:

Lucid Dream re: Cabal, Re-Education Camps, Flu bio warfare, assassination call for Trump (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC2ZH3QlI14) 23:27

Oct 11, 2020

https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJxYvNA34wARCaxR-YodCFv533ECMrxhwcTUiJoFmu4=s48-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0Rt9VNtLvlhQLRxaaMXciA) Carrie Kohan (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0Rt9VNtLvlhQLRxaaMXciA)

Another Lucid Dream of Oct 11, 2020 5:55am

Visions of:


Re-Education / Internment Camps in Canada;



Toxic Vaccine for Health Care Workers;



Former Sol Gen Wayne Easter enforcing a Law-Less Society, while illegally shutting down Hearings into Trudeau



Transport of Flu Virus Seasonably from China;



Say NO to the Small Stuff;



Cabal's call out for assassination of Trump and allies



Mind Control Bad ET's (BETs) who are betting we won't rise up before it's too late.



Cannibalism - Humans as food.


hC2ZH3QlI14

gord
11th October 2020, 18:36
Can someone provide a link to the video being discussed please? The video mentioned above about the remote viewers Dick & Edward. I looked on youtube but I cannot find this specific video. Thank you very much!

You have to be a member of Crypto Viewing at a certain subscription level to watch it. I'm a member, but I can't watch it.

Ernie Nemeth
11th October 2020, 18:59
Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and well heading into the 2020 elections.



Now that Trump has defeated the China Flu, all bets are off on the level of insanity it will unleash in the trump-haters. The plandemic lie is being outed and it is beyond the ability of some to comprehend life returning to normal without a vaccine.

It will make for a very interesting 2021.

Gwin Ru
12th October 2020, 12:07
...

The above transcript is included in the following account of a lucid dream:

Lucid Dream re: Cabal, Re-Education Camps, Flu bio warfare, assassination call for Trump (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC2ZH3QlI14) 23:27

Oct 11, 2020

https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/AATXAJxYvNA34wARCaxR-YodCFv533ECMrxhwcTUiJoFmu4=s48-c-k-c0xffffffff-no-rj-mo (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0Rt9VNtLvlhQLRxaaMXciA) Carrie Kohan (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0Rt9VNtLvlhQLRxaaMXciA)

Another Lucid Dream of Oct 11, 2020 5:55am

Visions of:


Re-Education / Internment Camps in Canada;

[...]
Politician raises alarm over Trudeau Govt’s plan to build COVID ‘Quarantine/Isolation’ camps (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/politician-raises-alarm-over-trudeau-govts-plan-to-build-covid-quarantine-isolation-camps)

The camps will be built across Canada.

By Anthony Murdoch
Fri Oct 9, 2020 - 7:17 pm EST


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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Nov. 11, 2015, Ottawa, Ontario. Art Babych / Shutterstock.com


OTTAWA, Ontario, October 9, 2020 (LifeSiteNews (http://www.lifesitenews.com/)) – An Ontario politician is raising alarm over the Trudeau Liberal government’s plan to expand COVID isolation/quarantine facilities coast to coast.

Randy Hillier, Independent Ontario MPP for Lanark, Frontenac & Kingston, expressed concern over the “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” in the provincial question period late this week. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzWLlfwfD4Y)

He asked the Doug Ford government of Ontario if they knew of “how many of these camps will be built, and how many people does this government expect to detain.” He pointed out how documentation shows that the “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” could be used for “other requirements” besides for COVID-19.
“So your government must be in negotiations and aware of these plans to potentially detain and isolate citizens and residents of our country and our province, so speaker, to the Premier, where will these camps be built, how many people will be detained, and for what reason, for what reasons can people be kept in these isolation camps, and I’d like to have the Premier assure the people of Ontario…,” said Hillier, whose microphone was cut off before he could finish.
In an email sent to his followers, Hillier expressed more of his concerns.
“The Premier has been actively dodging my questions since July. Today was just another example of the new status quo in Queen’s Park, no response. After this exchange I’m not even sure if the Premier and his Cabinet know what's going on regarding the Federal government considering the expansion of isolation/quarantine facilities from coast to coast,” wrote Hillier in an email sent out Thursday.

“The expansion of isolation/quarantine camps in Canada is something of concern and the Ontario government must know about it, so why won't they tell the people of Ontario?”
The Government of Canada (GoC) is currently soliciting feedback and information from industry service providers for additional “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” which if built, could be used for “other requirements” besides only for COVID-19 imposed quarantines.

The solicitation for feedback is listed on the GoC’s Buyandsell.gc.ca website as a tender notice Letter of Interest (LOI) and Request for Information (RFI) for “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites.” (https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-ZL-105-38463)

The RFI and LOI lists as an end-user for the services as the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC), with Public Works and Government Services Canada listed as the entity looking to procure the “isolation sites.” A closing date of October 19 listed.

According to PHAC, the current sites “are being used to address the requirements for international travelers not having a suitable place to isolate.”

The “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” RFI states that the use of the DSQ’s could be “temporarily discontinued until needed again by the Government of Canada,” but also might be used for “other requirements” in expectation of a “possible continued need for quarantine sites over the next 1 to 2 years given the COVID 19 pandemic.”

The RFI states that (https://buyandsell.gc.ca/cds/public/2020/09/16/20659b7271164ad9984dc3f33b194f38/ABES.PROD.PW__ZL.B105.E38463.EBSU000.PDF) the PHAC is currently managing a total of 11 sites nationwide that are designated as “quarantine sites (DQS)” for the COVID-19 fourteen-day quarantine, which can “lodge up to 1600 travellers.”

These are in Calgary, Vancouver, Kelowna, Winnipeg, Regina, Toronto, Montreal, Halifax, Fredericton, St. John’s (Newfoundland), and Whitehorse.

The GoC’s Buyandsell.gc.ca website lists every province and territory in Canada as needed as a potential region for delivery of “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites.”

The GoC states that the objective of the RFI “for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites” is to engage “a Third Party Service Provider for Federal Quarantine / Isolation sites that will be used to house and care for people for public health and other related federal requirements associated with the COVID-19 pandemic response.”
“The Government is seeking feedback from current service providers about potential options for standing up, operating and managing all of the services associated with these sites. The purpose of this Request for Information (RFI) is to seek feedback from potential service providers in order to develop a strategy for the potential future management of these sites going forward,” states the RFI.
In March, the GoC began to add to their procurement website for new government contracts, tenders to supply “goods and services in support of Canada’s response to COVID-19.”

The GoC says it “needs products and services in support of Canada’s response to COVID-19” and has been “exploring all options for securing the equipment and supplies needed to fight the COVID-19 pandemic.”

Regarding the “Service Provider(s) for Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites” the tender notice notes that the RFI is not “a bid solicitation” and “will not result in the award of any contract.”

The GoC webpage states that the “RFI is simply intended to solicit feedback from industry with respect to the matters described in this RFI.”

“PHAC is considering having a third party service provider provide and manage the existing sites and all of the related services on its behalf. PHAC may also consider expanding its site footprint to other locations provided in Annex C, attached,” reads part c of the background of the RFI.

Annex C lists as potential new sites under consideration Saskatoon, Windsor, Niagara, Ottawa, Winnipeg/Thunder Bay, Quebec City, Charlottetown, Iqaluit, and Yellowknife.

LifeSiteNews reached out to Toronto Constitutional lawyer, Rocco Galati to ask him about the GoC’s RFI for “Federal Quarantine/Isolation sites.”

Galati told LifeSiteNews that “straight out of the gate” he predicted “in one twitter paragraph” what was to come because of COVID-19.

Galati referred LifeSiteNews to a March 17, 2020 tweet he wrote shortly after the Ontario provincial government enacted COVID-19 emergency orders.
“Covid19 frenzy. A waltz in the global totalitarian tip-toe to new world order. Parliament closures, Court shutdowns, soldiers out. Banking/Corporate bailouts. Facts/science do not add up. Death toll, elderly and immunocompromised victims, marginally no diff than any other flus,” wrote Galati on March 17 (https://twitter.com/roccogalatilaw/status/1240065920933953537?s=20) on his Twitter page.
The GoC’s Buyandsell.gc.ca website also lists a September 15 Request for Proposal (RFP) from the Department of National Defence (DND) for the Riot Control Agent “Tear Gas.” (https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-20-00926463)

The “Tear Gas” RFP lists a total of 36,000 canisters required by the DND which the winning contractor is to have shipped to the Canadian Forces Ammunition Depot (CFAD) in Dundurn, Saskatchewan, by March 31, 2021.

While the use of Tear Gas as a crowd control method is not new in Canada, the “Tear Gas” RFP caught the attention of Galati, who speculated on social media why such a large order is needed for the spring of 2021.
“Tear Gas Order - Riot control - Govt of Canada - Due by March 31,” wrote Galati on Twitter (https://twitter.com/roccogalatilaw/status/1313476363492503557?s=20), posting a link to the Buyandsell.gc.ca website “Tear gas” RFP.

“Kind of makes you wonder what else they have planned for the spring.”
The Chemical Weapons Convention (https://www.opcw.org/chemical-weapons-convention) bans signatory countries, which Canada is one of, from using “riot control agents as a method of warfare,” but does offer exemptions for “domestic riot control purposes,” by law enforcement.

Tear gas has been used in Canada, as well as in the U.S., in recent months to dispel crowds of protestors.

Karen (Geophyz)
12th October 2020, 16:38
My prediction for the election, the only correct prediction.

Someone will win.
Someone will lose.

Some people will rejoice, other will be sad.

rgray222
12th October 2020, 20:49
My prediction for the election, the only correct prediction.

Someone will win.
Someone will lose.

Some people will rejoice, others will be sad.

While I understand what you are getting at and you are certainly correct that some will rejoice and others will be sad I think a more likely scenario will be:

The winner may not win
The loser may not lose
The election may not be decided by the people it most likely will be decided by a court.
More people will be outraged rather than sad
Civil unrest regardless of who wins will be imminent.

The media has done such an outstanding job giving birth to so much hate and emotions are running so high that some form of rioting is probably inevitable. If Trump wins the rioting will be immediate and ongoing simply because the media has been energetically stoking the fires for several years. If Biden wins it will have to be processed for a bit but there will be unrest.
I sincerely hope I am wrong, only time will tell.

Ernie Nemeth
13th October 2020, 18:36
If Trump wins there will be civil war, and another four years of hampering the efforts of the leader of the free world.

If Biden wins there will be unrest, but no rioting. It might lead to succession of some republican states. Then Kamala will be sworn in as Biden is found mentally unfit for office - and the 25th amendment will be invoked.

Meanwhile the rest of the world will wrestle with the scary notion that the land of the free is anything but.

The US dollar hegemony will collapse as a result and a world currency will be adopted, leaning heavily in favor of the chineese yuan.

No one will talk of being free anymore. No one will believe a word the authorities say anymore. The world will turn cynical and in its cynicism it will turn to China for guidance and to the UN model of governance for the future.

Hope I'm wrong, but it does not look good for our world.

rgray222
31st October 2020, 18:44
Three-quarters of Americans concerned about post-election violence: poll

The poll found that just 23 percent are 'very confident' about a peaceful transfer of power.

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Three-quarters of Americans are concerned about the possibility of violence on and after Election Day, according to a new poll that shows the number of concerned Americans has increased significantly since 2016.


The USA Today/Suffolk University Poll (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/states-national-guard-deployment-election-day) finds that three in four voters are concerned about the possibility of violence on Election Day and afterward, while only one in four say they are “very confident” that there will be a peaceful transfer of power if Joe Biden beats President Trump on Tuesday.

STATES MULL DEPLOYING NATIONAL GUARD AMID WORRIES ABOUT ELECTION DAY UNREST

Only 22 percent of those polled expressed little or no concern about violence, while more than a third describe themselves as “very concerned.”

According to USA Today, this is an increase from October 2016, when 47% had little or no concern about such violence. Meanwhile, in 2016, 40% of Americans were “very confident” about a peaceful transfer of power -- now that is just 23%.

At this point in 2016, 40% of Americans were "very confident" about a peaceful transfer of power. Now just 23% are, according to the poll -- and nearly 4 in 10 have little confidence that will happen.

A number of states are considering deploying the National Guard over fears of unrest.

In key battleground states such as the Rust Belt's Wisconsin and the Sun Belt's Arizona, governors have already announced they could or would activate the National Guard to help with security.

Wisconsin Democratic Gov. Tony Evers said Thursday that he would deploy around 400 members to compensate for poll worker shortages.

That same day, Arizona Republican Gov. Doug Ducey told ABC 15 he would not "hesitate" to send out the Guard should there be civil unrest.

Following the police shooting of Walter Wallace Jr., on Friday, Philadelphia Democratic Mayor Jim Kenney requested that the Pennsylvania National Guard help with the "current situation and election preparation.”

The USA Today/Suffolk University Poll was of 1,000 likely voters by landline and cellphone between Oct. 23 to 27 and has a margin of error of +/- 3.1 percentage points.

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/three-quarters-americans-election-violence-poll

Karen (Geophyz)
31st October 2020, 20:22
The USA Today/Suffolk University Poll was of 1,000 likely voters by landline and cellphone between Oct. 23 to 27 and has a margin of error of +/- 3.1 percentage points.

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/thr...-violence-poll

I am sure that in some cities in the US there will be unrest no matter who wins the election. But I don't think this poll contacted enough people to actually report that 75% of Americans are concerned.

It is going to be interesting to watch. I am hoping for a peaceful transfer of power. I am hoping that Americans will realize violence will not change the election results even if they are won by trickery.

Sue (Ayt)
31st October 2020, 22:07
The "polls" and the images that the MSM promotes appear to directly point to the conditions they want to create.
(Which came first, the chicken or the egg?)

TargeT
31st October 2020, 22:22
The "polls" and the images that the MSM promotes appear to directly point to the conditions they want to create.
(Which came first, the chicken or the egg?)

It could easily be confused as a very "technical" version of ritual magic. And it seems like it used to work (9/11 and all the other predictively programmed events we've been through) but this time it's rushed and there's no subtly so they are trying to force the pattern.

Lunesoleil
31st October 2020, 23:12
I had a hunch since yesterday that the start of the covid is linked with the American elections. The authors of this plandemia have been organizing everything since the year before the election, when Trump was high in the polls. How is it possible not to have thought about it earlier ??? In France Macron launched a second confinement since Friday, it is the anger of many companies on the verge of bankruptcy. Because what worries Macron is not to save the economy of France, it is to block Trump and I have just understood this after the announcement of our president. Because we are in bad shape to get out of the world dictatorship if Biden becomes president, is that right ???

:wizard:

rgray222
3rd November 2020, 19:56
DC protesters organized via Zoom for months, thousands expected outside White House on Election Day

Groups led by Black Lives Matter and Shutdown DC have been holding training sessions for demonstrators

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/06/06/us/06unrest-saturday-10/06unrest-saturday-10-videoSixteenByNine3000.jpg

A collection of groups led by Black Lives Matter and Shutdown DC reportedly has been holding training sessions for demonstrators to protest on Election Day -- and apparently, they’re planning a large-scale event across the street from the White House expected to draw thousands.

Several leaked documents and Zoom call recordings described a loose but coordinated network of activists seeking to mobilize around the country, especially if Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden loses or if President Trump contests the election results. The materials purportedly showed plans to shut down federal buildings, including the White House, and to meet members of Congress at public transportation portals when they’re scheduled to reconvene in Washington after the election.

The apparent goal: to continue the civil unrest from Election Day until at least later this week -- and potentially until the presidential inauguration in January.

Fox News could not independently confirm the legitimacy of the recordings and documents with local and federal law enforcement. DC Metro Police Department did not immediately return a Fox News request for comment.

Responding to Fox News, the FBI said its standard practice is to neither confirm nor deny an investigation. The agency did say it has been working well in advance of Nov. 3 with federal, state and local partners to “gather and analyze intelligence to determine whether individuals might be motivated to take violent action for any reason.”

FBI headquarters is focusing on providing a “centralized location for assessing election-related threats, tracking status reports and significant complaints from FBI field offices, monitoring for indicators of a coordinated nationwide effort to disrupt the election process, providing guidance to FBI field offices, and coordinating an FBI response to any election-related incident.”

FBI field offices are standing up election command posts to coordinate with headquarters and local and state partners to streamline communication and ensure the safety of elections and the public, the agency said in a statement.

According to the Shutdown DC website, thousands of people are planning to “start this next phase of the election cycle in the streets” by gathering at Black Lives Matter Plaza by 4 p.m. Tuesday. Large screens will be set up to stream election results as crowds are entertained by GoGo bands, salsa dancers, artists and cultural workers, according to the site.

“Votes will still be coming in, so this will (probably) not be the time we need to create disruption to stop a coup - yet. But we’ll be in a good place to respond to whatever might happen,” the website claimed. “This has been a really long and dark era so we’re going to be together to process our feelings of hope, anger, fear, and exhaustion as a community.”

A recording purportedly of one training session hosted over Zoom by the “Sunrise Movement” featured Lisa Fithian, who has been described by Mother Jones “as the nation's best-known protest consultant.”

In the video, Fithian showed a target map displaying all the police stations, key government buildings, media outlets and buildings occupied by “Trump boosters” in the DC area. She discussed “what would it take to surround the White House.”

“We’re facing an administration and a potential coup and a potential insurrection,” Fithian said. “Is there going to be a war? Are people gonna get killed? Like is that on anybody else’s mind? I’m guessing it is. We’re going to see potential fighting all over the country or in some hotspots, and we’ve already seen that, so how do we work together across the country to help support each other no matter where we are and to maximize our impact by doing similar things on similar days at similar times?”

'NO CLIMB' FENCE TO BE INSTALLED AROUND WHITE HOUSE, SOURCE SAYS

Fithian said demonstrators willing to break windows on government buildings should go a step farther and get inside. She told those on the call, “We have to be willing to put our bodies on the line and take on some discomfort and sacrifice risk in order to change things.”

To read the rest of the story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/election-day-white-house-demonstrations-zoom-calls-shutdown-dc

scotslad
3rd November 2020, 21:10
The base rate in the UK is currently 0.1%

It, if we believe the mainstream news is to go -% on November 5th.

A negative base rate could have a catastrophic effect on a very large amount (if not all) banks.
Not to mention the impact on businesses - as the plandemic is creating millions of unemployed people - forcing many others to work online from home.

It will also have a catastrophic effect on many consumer/individual's savings on deposit and their ability to earn income.

Is this the realisation and transition into a cashless society and moving into a cashless crypto digital currency once n for all - or a step back to silver/gold backed cash and a way of restricting eliminating all these fiat inflated balance sheets of major financial institutions?

One thing for sure, we only 2 days to finding out how the major institutions are going to cope with this and we'll have to wait and see what the ripple effect is going to have on every day living.

I think we've been distracted by the catalysing cover story of plandemic to misdirect us to what's really coming - financial slavery - or at least a damn good attempt at doing so to us all.

Footnote added:

"Mastercard President Michael Miebach said the payments processor’s massive trove of cryptocurrency patents will give it an edge once central bank digital currencies (CBDC) debut."

https://www.coindesk.com/mastercard-cryptocurrency-patent-digital-currency

TargeT
3rd November 2020, 23:19
Saw a lot of people with helmets dressed in all black but with "medic" on their shirt and a a lot of people dressed in all black with a tent and generator set up, but the tent was closed... not sure on that..

Saw 1 guy with a baseball bat in his backpack, I think dc will get crazy toward the end of the week, maybe ill go back Friday

From what I saw, violence is being prepared for.

There were groups of 10-15 cops all over

But I feel I was at the "set up" phase still? Left at 5pm

Chris Gilbert
4th November 2020, 00:04
Not a fan of the Marxist ideology among its contributors, but I do find some excellent scholarly analyses on the website Counterpunch from time to time. They're quite good when it comes to criticizing the Deep State military empire, something garden variety liberals constantly drop the ball on. If even 25% of what is laid out in this article is true, the next couple months are going to be BAD.

The Battle Will Come After the Voting is Over (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/11/03/the-battle-will-come-after-the-voting-is-over/)


NOVEMBER 3, 2020
The Battle Will Come After the Voting is Over
BY NICK LICATAFacebookTwitterRedditEmail
The Trump Campaign will try to disqualify as many mail-in ballots as possible. Trump has personally implied through his public statements that armed civilians should monitor polling stations. Armed militias have already made statements that they will not allow the Democrats to steal the election from Trump. The public has no way of knowing the full scale of these efforts. But their intent is clearly to discourage people of color and other members of the Democrats’ base from voting.

Since a number of key states will not reach a final tally of mail-in ballots until the end of the week. Trump may have a majority of the popular vote that’s been counted on election night — something known as the “red mirage.” Most mail-in votes will be added later in the week. Trump will say they are fraudulent and that counting them would be unlawful.

This situation drives Trump to say that the Supreme Court will decide the election. His strategy after Election Day will rely on (1) invalidating as many mail-in ballots as possible; (2) blocking enough states from certifying their electors that the election is thrown into the House of Representatives; and (3) asking the Supreme Court to rule on which slates of electors must be accepted.

If no candidate receives “a majority of the Whole number of Electors appointed” — as specified by the 12th Amendment — the House will vote on Jan. 6 among the top three candidates (probably Trump, Biden, and Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen). Each state delegation will get one vote (not one per representative). This one-state-one-vote rule is another advantage granted to rural states, in addition to those states having extra weight in the Electoral College.

At the present time, Republicans hold a majority of House delegations in 26 states. Democrats hold a majority of delegations in only 22 states, and two other states have tied delegations. If that is still true when the new House members meet on Jan. 6, the winner would be Donald Trump, 26–22, with 2 states tied and not counted.

If Biden earns a majority of electors based on each state’s popular vote, Trump’s strategy will be to hold up enough state counts in court so that a few states are barred from certifying any electors by Dec. 14, when the Electoral College convenes in state capitals.

For the sake of this discussion, let’s say Trump on Dec. 14 received 268 electoral votes while Biden received only 250. (Imagine that a state, like Pennsylvania, with 20 electoral votes was prevented by a court from appointing any electors for Biden.) Trump’s 268 electors would be fewer than 270 — an absolute majority of 538 — but his 268 would be 51.7% of the 518 electors who managed to be appointed by Dec. 14.

The Supreme Court would decide. Does “a majority of the Whole number of Electors appointed” mean the number who were legally appointed by Dec. 14 or does it mean the number who could have been appointed?With Amy Coney Barrett on the court, the conservative majority could vote 6–3 that the phrase means the number who were legally appointed by Dec. 14. Of course, they would justify their decision saying that they took the wording of the constitution literally, i.e. they were not acting as activist judges. Trump would win the Electoral College, 268–250 or 51.7%. Even if Chief Justice John Roberts joined the liberals to make the decision only 5–4, Trump would win.

The 26 House delegations that have a majority of Republican representatives would vote on Jan. 6 to follow the Supreme Court’s ruling. Trump would be re-elected, no matter how small his popular vote was.

The voting on Jan. 6 will involve the newly elected members of Congress, not the old lame-duck members. Could Democrats flip enough US House seats on Nov. 3 to control 26 state delegations on Jan. 6?

The answer is almost certainly, “No.”

There are currently only four US states that could change from a US House delegation that is Republican-majority or tied to a delegation that is Democratic-majority or tied (assuming one seat in each state flips from R to D). Pennsylvania and Michigan currently have tied delegations. Floridahas a one-seat majority for the Republicans, and Wisconsin has a two-seat Republican majority:

• Pennsylvania’s delegation is currently tied, with 9 R’s and 9 D’s. As of Oct. 21, the nonpartisan Cook Political Report rates only one seat in Pennsylvania as a toss-up: Rep. Scott Perry’s seat in Congressional District 10.

• Michigan’s delegation is currently tied, with 7 R’s and 7 D’s. Cook rates only one seat in Michigan as a toss-up: Rep. Justin Amash’s seat in CD 3. (Note: Amash switched from Republican to Libertarian earlier this year, but he is not running for re-election. The seat has been held by a Republican, including Amash, for more than a decade.)

• Florida’s delegation is currently majority-Republican, 14 R’s and 13 D’s. Cook does not rate any seats in Florida as toss-ups. Therefore, none of the seats are likely to change parties.

• Wisconsin’s delegation is currently majority-Republican, 5 R’s and 3 D’s. Cook does not rate any seats in Wisconsin as toss-ups. Therefore, none of the seats are likely to change parties.

Even if the D’s somehow flipped one seat in three delegations — Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida — 25 states would then vote for Trump/Pence and 25 would vote for Biden/Harris. This would be a tie, producing no winner.

In that case, the Senate would cast one vote per senator (not per state) for the position of vice president. If Republicans are still a majority of senators on Jan. 6, the Senate would vote for Trump to become vice president. But Trump would immediately become president, because the office of the presidency would be vacant, due to the House’s tie vote. However, if the Senate did flip over to a 51–49 Democratic majority after the election — which would require a net gain of four seats — the new senators would be voting, and Biden would win.

As if all of this weren’t already too mind-boggling, the president of the Senate on Jan. 6 will still be Mike Pence, since his term doesn’t expire until Jan. 20. This provides Trump an opportunity to have his vice-president determine how the Senate rules will determine the electors for selecting the next vice-president.

Should Republicans retain control of the Senate, the Democratic senators could conceivably boycott the Senate vote, thereby depriving the body of the two-thirds quorum that is required by the 12th Amendment. If the House were tied, and the Senate had no quorum, neither the House nor the Senate would legally have made any decision. Most likely the Republican Senators would meet and vote anyway, claiming victory. The Supreme Court could then rule on which candidate had enough electoral votes to win.

Even if Biden had clearly won enough electoral votes after the November election, Trump’s attorneys are prepared to go nuclear with one last tactic. Before the House can formally vote to accept the Electoral College votes in January, Republican-controlled legislatures could convene November special sessions in states where he lost the popular vote. The R legislators could declare that there was “massive fraud” in a state’s mail-in ballots — for example, millions were printed and mailed by Ukraine — and appoint the legislature’s own slate of Trump electors. This is arguably permitted under the US Constitution, which provides that electors shall be appointed “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” Changing the manner of elector selection after the votes have been counted might violate existing state laws, but guess who would decide on this — the Supreme Court.

Trump might lose the popular vote in five states rated “toss-up” by 270toWin’s 2020 Consensus that happen to have Republican legislatures and governors. They are Florida (29 electoral votes), Ohio (18), Georgia(16),Arizona (11), and Iowa (6). If all five legislatures acted, a total of 80 electoral votes would shift from Biden to Trump. That would be a highly controversial move. It would also require a lot of coordination among state Republican leaders. Nevertheless, it is 2020, and many unbelievable things have happened already.

Four other toss-up states have R-majority legislatures but Democratic governors. They are Pennsylvania (20), Michigan (16), North Carolina(15), and Wisconsin (10). Under the US Code (3 USC §5), governors may submit their own slate of electors by Dec. 8, 2020, if electors in a state are contested. A Democratic governor’s slate would compete with a Republican legislature’s slate when the US House votes on Jan. 6 whether to accept each state’s electors.

If Republican legislatures “went rogue” and appointed their own electors, could states with Democratic legislatures and governors play “tit-for-tate, replacing Trump electors with Biden electors? Not really, because the Democrats only control Maine that has both a Democratic controlled legislature and a Democratic governor.

The Supreme Court would decide which slates were the legitimate ones. The conservative majority of the court could side with the legislatures’ slates. The court could also bar the US House from considering competing slates that were based on the popular vote. Trump would win a majority of electors.

With the slew of attorneys that are now working for the Trump Campaign and the Republican National Committee, the above possibilities are serious legal mechanisms that Republicans may fully intend to use. On the other hand, neither strategy would work if Biden won such a huge majority in the Electoral College that even switching the electors of several states from D to R would not get Trump re-elected.

For the good of the nation, the path to a peaceful and normal transition to a new presidency would best be secured by a Biden landslide. That would not be necessary, if Donald Trump had not repeatedly claimed that fraud and cheating were the only possible reasons why he would lose.

Hold on tight for the battle that will begin on Nov. 4.

“Indeed, you won the elections, but I won the count.” — Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza (1896–1956)

Agape
4th November 2020, 04:57
Tell Mr Trump senior that the Bodhgaya ET origins of humanity entity expects compensation of $ 100 000 netto on bank account till midnight for that folded NSA operation in South America (Uruguay) and damage to most personal equipment and property ( including MacBook, iPad Air, fully equipped apartment in Prague, book and arts collection, personal belongings and body harm to the entity/witness).

It’s fundamentally wrong to misuse people’s trust and safety especially while they are not capable of manual labour, have no means to trade or argue and are otherwise vulnerable.

Also do not forget that full video report is already available with Miles Johnston and the Bases(16) series.

It’s not a revenge or ransom , a real time compensation of values damaged by the agency on life and property of an individual,
not an organization, agency or a group.


It means nothing to him and takes a click on his phone.

For using my mind, speech and body for his own operation incentives, demanding cooperation under life threat etc.

Win or lose


🙏

I just want to be able to eat my vitamins and brush my teeth and work on my project as usually, nothing extraordinary, for the benefit of all living beings.
Activity of study and research that has never harmed anyone.

I’m not your foe or a terrorist.

I’ve heard from your operatives though that mass depopulation agenda is “on plan” for humanity as well as safety escape routes for the more empowered.

We live in one world today, a world whose people keep asking the same questions and communicate across cultural barriers. Indeed we are taking bigger step now to the world of future, together with our children and we can’t accept being lied to and played “old dirty games”.
We are meant to be your hope, not your enemy.

No matter how many years will careless people remain in the Office, immune to human suffering, there will be also violence in the Nation of many colours.

There will be crimes and army in the streets.


It’s important to take step back now and give a way to Peace and Freedom


🙏🦢🙏

mijatoca
5th November 2020, 04:18
What I find very odd is Pennsylvania (Nov 4 @ 11:00pm) only 89% ballots counted, What's the hold up? Larger populated states do his with no issues. Hmmm. Almost like a pause for negotiations.

GMB1961
5th November 2020, 07:36
I was just sent this by a friend and if I was Joe Biden I would not be counting all my eggs before they hatch.
It seems that the official ballot papers have a water mark on them and the fake ones don't.
The original ballots are also registered on a QFS blockchain to prevent fraud.
:clapping:12 states were targeted.
Alabama, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Texas, Wisconsin, Tennessee, Washington, Virginia, Delaware, Illinois and Kentucky. And now they are counting the Official ballots.
Fraud will be exposed for the world to see. Justice Amy was confirmed right before the election so she can rightfully take care of the business of election fraud.

Its going to get a lot more interesting folks, so strap in and get ready.

GMB1961
5th November 2020, 10:22
Just saw this had to share.
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Frankie Pancakes
5th November 2020, 15:16
Caitlin Johnstone just stated it succinctly.

Waiting for the results of the US presidential election is like waiting to find out if you’re going to get hit by the mugger with the bat or the mugger with the crow bar.

Praxis
7th November 2020, 19:52
This is precisely what will happen:

Trump is going to bitch and moan about the election.

The Republican Party is going to abandon trump and place the blame for all the bad things of the past four years onto him.

The Republican Party then is going to jettison the trump family and people like the Lincoln Party will be brought back into the fold.

Trump will be removed from office and Biden will become the next president.

I am very happy that Trump lost. Notice exactly how I phrased that.

T Smith
7th November 2020, 20:09
Trump is going to bitch and moan about the election.



This is much bigger than Trump or Biden. This is about the fate of the United States of America as a free Republic and honest and fair elections determined by vote and not by organized crime.

I get that you prefer a Banana Republic to a second term of President Trump, but specifically to your points, do you not agree with fair and honest elections?




The Republican Party is going to abandon trump and place the blame for all the bad things of the past four years onto him.

The Republican Party then is going to jettison the trump family and people like the Lincoln Party will be brought back into the fold.



Possibly. These are plausible speculations. Let's see how it plays out as it becomes more and more clear that the results of this election are blatantly fraudulent.




I am very happy that Trump lost. Notice exactly how I phrased that.



You are misinformed on this point. Trump has not yet lost.

Praxis
8th November 2020, 00:20
People who believe the DHS blockchain thing are delusional. Look it up. States handle elections not the FEDs. ANd Further, why would you trust the DHS? Because it is on your side? One of trump failures is not dismantling the DHS. It was created as a response to 9-11 and is the largest expansion of the police state to date.

I do believe in fair elections. It why I am glad we are moving closer to not having the Electoral COllege with Colorado SIgning onto the Napo Vo Inter Co.

I would even like to see a sort of blockchain election vehicle cause then it can be done from the phone and verified.

And no I am not misinformed. Biden will be the next president. You can be upset about this all you like but that is what it is.

Still waiting for so many things from Q anon predictions.

Were the mass arrests always supposed to take place in the lame duck part of the presidency?

When will the Storm be here?

The reason people are pushing this vote stealing meme is because it is the only way to square the lack of anything from "white hats" Q anon people actually having happened.

Q anon must not be wrong, it must be that there were vote stealing.

PurpleLama
8th November 2020, 00:28
I am still not convinced as to the veracity of Q (anons are their own people, and a different thing than Q), but if you cannot observe the irregularities with computer glitches and midnight vote drops all favoring one candidate, then either you are not paying attention, or you are being very disengenuous.

Kamikaze
8th November 2020, 01:03
delete it all.

T Smith
8th November 2020, 01:17
I do believe in fair elections. It why I am glad we are moving closer to not having the Electoral COllege with Colorado SIgning onto the Napo Vo Inter Co.



We are now splitting hairs. If you believe free elections mean mob rule, which is what eliminating the Electoral College would entail, then we are talking past each other. Eliminating the Electoral College is sort of like Turkey's voting for Thanksgiving.




And no I am not misinformed. Biden will be the next president. You can be upset about this all you like but that is what it is.



I never said Biden would not be the next President. I chose my words carefully. I said Trump has not lost. And he hasn't. If and when Biden becomes the next POTUS, I guarantee it will not be Pravda who clarifies this point for us; it will be the high courts of the United States.

rgray222
8th November 2020, 03:48
I do believe in fair elections. It why I am glad we are moving closer to not having the Electoral COllege with Colorado SIgning onto the Napo Vo Inter Co.


Here is something to think about. If we lived under one-world government (which is inevitable at some point) and we elected a leader of the world through the popular vote. It would put countries like China (1.5Billion) and India (1.4 Billion) in complete control. Countries like the USA (330Million) Australia (25Million) Canada (37m) Denmark (5M) Chile (19M) Taiwan (23M) would be completely removed from the process. There really must be a levelling factor like the electoral college to give the rest of the world a say in who is governing.

In the event we elected our federal representatives by popular vote not only would California, Texas, Florida and New York run the show it would be where most of the financial and human resources would be deployed. These four highly populated states would end up with better roads, better schools, better hospitals and more federal jobs. They would end up with more money for natural disasters such as wildfires and hurricanes. Getting power and retaining power drives political behavior. It doesn't take a keen observer to understand that politicians would move in this direction in 2 seconds flat.

Without a levelling factor, more than 250 million Americans would be disenfranchised from the political process and ostracized from gaining access to resources.

Elainie
8th November 2020, 04:35
Unless the remote viewing sessions are ALL wrong, then what was shown was supreme court, Trump is sworn in Jan.

TomKat
8th November 2020, 04:41
It seems that the official ballot papers have a water mark on them and the fake ones don't.
The original ballots are also registered on a QFS blockchain to prevent fraud.


No such thing as a QFS blockchain watermark. The guy who made up the "sting" story is CIA.

GMB1961
8th November 2020, 08:28
Really TomKat? Then I am going to take a break from all the bull**** I keep seeing and being sent. It is so hard to believe in anything anymore.
All I wish for is a peaceful outcome where no one has to die or a potential civil war start. If there is doubt in what happened then explore it and see if
it is true, then take it from there. I will now officially keep my thoughts to myself on this election or anything else for that matter.
Glenn in Australia.

One
8th November 2020, 09:53
Really TomKat? Then I am going to take a break from all the bull**** I keep seeing and being sent. It is so hard to believe in anything anymore.
All I wish for is a peaceful outcome where no one has to die or a potential civil war start. If there is doubt in what happened then explore it and see if
it is true, then take it from there. I will now officially keep my thoughts to myself on this election or anything else for that matter.
Glenn in Australia.

Don't do that. It, exactly what these people (if they even deserve that term) want.

IChingUChing
8th November 2020, 10:02
45005

It appears there is a patent for a blockchain technology in relation to the vote. Whether it was actually used, I guess we will discover in the next few days.

greybeard
8th November 2020, 10:35
Something 'stinks to high heaven' in the US presidential election: Bernardi

The media has declared Joe Biden as the winner of the US presidential election although it isn’t their job to actually make that call as voting recounts and pending legal challenges still remain says Sky News contributor Cory Bernardi.

“This is an extraordinary decision, but it certainly fits the history where the media have manufactured negative Trump tales and they've failed to cover the failings of Joe Biden".

Mr Biden will become the 46th President of the United States, after Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral college votes was called in his favour.

President-elect Joe Biden has pledged to be a president who seeks to unify the country and not see red or blue states, but the United States.

Mr Trump however is refusing to concede at this point and vows to fight for a recount in several states.

Mr Bernardi said perhaps the “most worrying thing about this election, is the clear vote tampering” and commented that US media have simply dismissed evidence of fraud claims emerging in the US presidential election.

He said the “once great representative democracy” has now been tainted by shameless media bias, blatant big tech censorship, partisan pollsters and ballot tampering.

“All of these things have been done to favour the Democratic Party candidate Joe Biden”.

"I think something stinks to high heaven in this election," he said.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-tKILFlFgA

Baby Steps
8th November 2020, 10:49
Hilarious theory from an australian friend: as we know the mask and distancing issues are highly politicised, and it is therefore possible that most of the covid deaths were Trump supporters, and another 200,000 are bed-bound and were unable to vote.

More seriously, thinking back to 2016, remember how something ocurred in the shadows to impede whatever electoral fiddling was going on then, and we do not really know what happened, but it looked like Trump had some serious tech people assisting to facilitate a fair result then.
Why would it be different now? Likely they are three steps ahead. Likely, as usual the blustery tweets presage something serious and credible.

https://mobile.twitter.com/tom2badcat/status/1325124397729001472?s=19&fbclid=IwAR0ULj1FkKQFAFi4eci_ZRitvUa5f_CSgQWAHPuqimAclLefAQp3fLt5rCM

If not, I feel myself reaching out emotionally for my previous perception of the democrat party, the party of decency, the USA a force for stability and growth in the world, unifying and healing division at home, and fighting to bring a fairer health system, and controlling the worst excesses of corporate and oligarchical power. Oh wouldn't it be great if that comfortable delusion could be true??

Sadly the reality is that Biden represents a coup by an alliance of globalist corporate power and china, that has no regard for democracy or usa influence in the world. You will not see legislation to contain corporate excess or special interest . You will just see the same warmongering monster with a smiling mask over it.

pray for the long suffering people of Syria, Ukraine, Palestine, and Libya.
Pray that the new administration will not be controlled by China via blackmail, and manipulated into war with Russia. Pray that Europe does not get sucked in to the machinations.




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Billy
8th November 2020, 11:22
Is it over or is it not over until it's over ?
Why are they counting the chickens before they are hatched?
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Jayke
8th November 2020, 11:42
Once all the illegal ballots are rendered null and void, even Catherine Austin Fitts is surprised by Trumps landslide victory, regardless of how excited the AP are at the prospect of Bidens premature electulation.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSolariReport/status/1325374289185546240
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Agape
8th November 2020, 12:21
I think it’s another few months (at least) of arguments, court cases, breaking the voting machines, breaking the code ( is there any moral code in the equation anyway),
targeting various media agencies for not getting it right this time, and so forth.

Half the world has obviously sighed in disbelief, that’s after they hoped they’ve been bought to the millionaire club. No worries the club won’t go anywhere.
You can’t get rid of your “owners” basically, no you can’t.
They have money and stakes in about everything we do and touch these days,
speak of qualified jobs and education, it’s been the same in every other system so far,
people with big money always survived and got ahead faster than everyone else.

Are you a hero on a road ? Think ahead and how far you can get with nothing ..to 16th century perhaps.

Don’t believe me if I say we have been bought to the game and we are still held accountable in the chain of causes and consequences.

The Constitution laws themselves are vulnerable: somewhat like old scriptures that can be explained in multiple ways.
The president can declare state of emergency and stage an attack on the White House.

He’s armed with the fiercest possible weapons and methods imaginable and he won’t give up on you easily :flower:


Wish the tame and peaceful would save the times instead .

Can’t we just jump through ?



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Baby Steps
8th November 2020, 13:44
The following update is from the Trump campaign, very detailed and from yesterday-

https://m.facebook.com/100008294047911/posts/2894014917551615/?d=n


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agiB01iiA8Y

dpwishy
9th November 2020, 00:59
I am 36 years old, I never "believed" in voting or that my vote really counted. I always had a jaded view of voting. I not only never voted, but I have never even registered to be able to. Purposely denying the right everytime I would get asked at a licence renewal.

I registered and voted for the first time this election. It doesnt matter who I voted for but I love my country and I love our constitution. All I can say for the outcome is this, its beyond clear and obvious that shenanigans went on. This has nothing to do with this side or that. I cant in honest rational get upset if my pick lost as I truly believe in a democratic process and respect the outcome of such but this must be undertaken in a way where the integrity and trust in the system is guaranteed. I dont care who wins at this point, but this must be figured out and this must be brought in the open where there is no doubt either way.

It felt like a patriotic duty to register and vote this round, but instead of feeling like I fulfilled a duty. I feel once again, like I always have, that my vote doesn't really matter or count. I pray that this is taken care of in a transparent manner in order to save the union and to not completely disenfranchise people like my self. As I would never contribute to the system again...

TargeT
9th November 2020, 01:25
I am 36 years old, I never "believed" in voting or that my vote really counted. I always had a jaded view of voting. I not only never voted, but I have never even registered to be able to. Purposely denying the right everytime I would get asked at a licence renewal.

I register and voted for the first time this election. It doesnt matter who I voted for but I love my country and I love our constitution. All I can say for the outcome is this, its beyond clear and obvious that shenanigans went on. This has nothing to do with this side or that. I cant in honest rational get upset if my pick lost as I truly believe in a democratic process and respect the outcome of such but this must be undertaken in a way where the integrity and trust in the system is guaranteed. I dont care who wins at this point, but this must be figured out and this must be brought in the open where there is no doubt either way.

It felt like a patriotic duty to register and vote this round, but instead of feeling like I fulfilled a duty. I feel once again, like I always have, that my vote doesn't really matter or count. I pray that this is taken care of in a transparent manner in order to save the union and to not completely disenfranchise people like my self. As I would never contribute to the system again...

this year will shake the faith of many voters... as it should (and probably is very over due... we are seeing the exacerbation of previously occurring events... like since the 60's or so....)

I have never voted, I am registered I think.... I see voting as analogous to the stock market... it's not a game that I am meant to play and win.

Elainie
9th November 2020, 03:38
https://www.worldviewweekend.com/radio/audio/brannon-howse-november-4-2020


Please help us get this information to the American people. Guests: Lt. General Thomas McInerney, (3-Stars) U.S. Air Force (Retired), Author and Researcher Mary Fanning. Former National Security Council Staffer for President Donald Trump Rich Higgins join us to give us his thoughts on what it would mean for America if Joe Biden becomes President due to his a national security threat due to being compromised by the Communist Chinese and government of Russia. You will hear General McInerney tell our audience that Brannon is revealing facts that no other national talk show host on terrestrial radio is covering because they likely are not aware of this breaking news.

Topics Covered in today’s broadcast as written by guest and research Mary Fanning and confirmed on air by retired, 3-Star General Thomas McInerney.

In February 2009, the Obama administration commandeered a powerful supercomputer system known as THE HAMMER. THE HAMMER includes an exploit application known as SCORECARD that is capable of hacking into elections and stealing the vote, according to CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who designed and built THE HAMMER.

THE WHISTLEBLOWER TAPES, confidential audio recordings released by U.S. DIstrict Judge G. Murray Snow’s courtroom in November 2015, revealed that SCORECARD was deployed by the Obama team against Florida election computers to steal the 2012 presidential election on behalf of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

SCORECARD is now being activated to steal the vote on behalf of Joe Biden once again. Biden utilized THE HAMMER and SCORECARD while running for Vice President in 2012. Votes are again being stolen on Joe Biden’s behalf as he runs for President of the United States in 2020.

This time, SCORECARD is stealing votes in Florida, Georgia, Texas, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, and Arizona, according to Montgomery.

SCORECARD steals elections by tampering with the computers at the transfer points of state election computer systems and outside third party election data vaults as votes are being transferred. The Obama White House had an encrypted VPN in order to access THE HAMMER at will.

In August 2015, CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis L. Montgomery provided the FBI and the DOJ with evidence stored on 47 hard drives that implicates Robert Hunter Biden, son of former Vice President Joe Biden, in illegal activities, Montgomery states.

Among the 600 million pages of documents stored on those 47 hard drives of electronic data that Montgomery turned over to the FBI were 10,000 pages of documents regarding Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, according to Montgomery. The 10,000 pages of documents regarding Hunter Biden and Joe Biden included videos and images.

Going all the way back to 2003, Montgomery maintains, the U.S. government continuously targeted Joe Biden and Hunter Biden with electronic surveillance via THE HAMMER.

On February 3, 2009, Brennan and Clapper moved THE HAMMER to Fort Washington, Maryland and began using the foreign surveillance system for domestic surveillance, targeting President Obama’s political enemies for “blackmail and leverage.” Montgomery, as a CIA contractor, worked for John Brennan and James Clapper.

Montgomery became a whistleblower upon seeing first hand how the Obama administration had turned THE HAMMER against America. Montgomery received two limited immunity agreements from the DOJ and the FBI in exchange for evidence production and testimony.

Montgomery originally designed and built THE HAMMER in 2003 as a foreign surveillance system to protect America after 9/11.

“THE HAMMER IS THE KEY TO THE COUP” — Admiral James A. “Ace” Lyons, On His Death Bed, Speaking To His Longtime Friend, Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney

They stole a super-surveillance government tool for foreign surveillance and they turned it against America and are using it to steal the Presidential election of 2020.

* CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery built THE HAMMER in 2003 as a foreign surveillance tool to keep America safe from terrorists after 9/11 and to protect U.S. troops on the battlefield.

* Robert Mueller’s FBI provided the computers for THE HAMMER.

* THE HAMMER foreign surveillance system featured multiple echelons of safeguards and sign-offs to prevent U.S. personnel, up to and including the President of the United States, from using the system for unlawful domestic surveillance.

* On February 3, 2009, two weeks after President Obama’s inauguration, Brennan and Clapper moved THE HAMMER to a secret CIA facility in Fort Washington, Maryland.

*After Dennis Montgomery saw Brennan and Clapper commandeer THE HAMMER foreign surveillance tool and transform it into a domestic surveillance system for blackmail and leverage, Montgomery became a whistleblower.

* In 2013, Dennis Montgomery alerted multiple officials in Washington D.C. that THE HAMMER was being used to conduct illegal domestic surveillance. Montgomery even sent faxes to President Obama and Vice President Biden to alert them about the ongoing illegal domestic surveillance.

* Brennan and Clapper used THE HAMMER to spy on Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, 156 Article III judges, FISA Court Presiding Judge Reggie Walton, Members of Congress, Wall Street executives, Rudy Giuliani, Lt. General Michael Flynn, Donald Trump, Trump Tower, multiple Trump businesses, and members of the Trump family. Brennan and Clapper spied on Donald Trump because the CIA feared Trump. Brennan and Clapper wiretapped Donald Trump “a zillion times.”

* The Obama Whitehouse could access THE HAMMER at will through an encrypted VPN.

* In August 2015, Dennis Montgomery, under a limited immunity agreement, provided FBI General Counsel James Baker and FBI Director James Comey with 47 computer hard drives of evidence proving that Brennan and Clapper had used THE HAMMER to conduct illegal domestic surveillance. Included on the 47 hard drives was 10,000 pages of documents regarding Hunter Biden.

* In December 2015, Dennis Montgomery, under a second limited immunity agreement, provided the FBI and the DOJ with sworn testimony about THE HAMMER and the contents of the 47 hard drives.

* THE HAMMER framework could throw multiple exploit applications. The Obama team used a HAMMER application called SCORECARD to steal the 2012 presidential election in Florida.

* The Biden campaign is using SCORECARD to steal the 2020 presidential election (they have NOT turned off THE HAMMER).

TOPIC

TomKat
9th November 2020, 22:30
https://www.worldviewweekend.com/radio/audio/brannon-howse-november-4-2020

Sure is a lot of repetition for something that is supposed to be a legitimate news story. Reads more like propaganda.

TomKat
11th November 2020, 01:54
This guy's analysis shows how Trump could win:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/current-actual-election-result-update-president-trump-leading-electoral-college-paths-victory-biden/

James Newell
11th November 2020, 02:55
I watched an interesting show on Toresays.com/dlive. She is WAY ahead of most, she used to have a Q clearance, which means she knew a lot of things re energy. In her show about 1:15 hours in. She showed a document written by the big union afl-cio. They have most union members in US, including police. They wrote this in Sept of 2020. It is a almost complete crystal ball of what is happening now. In other words it IS the plan. It is plain seditious fraud on the American electorate. So if Tore had this, others in this country could trust this plan, and probably have counter measures in place. https://dlive.tv/p/toresays+E4bzx9hMg

Waldo
11th November 2020, 03:22
Anyone watched this? Quite possible IMHO

https://www.facebook.com/shanevaughn38/videos/10219945275044223

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rgray222
6th January 2021, 21:23
This outcome was inevitable and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Whether election fraud is real or perceived makes no difference whatsoever. Politicians, Media and Joe Biden should have taken this issue seriously and made every effort to either prove or disprove fraud in the 2020 election. Instead, the media wrote it off as another Trump rant even though there is strong evidence that massive fraud may have occurred. A full accounting needs to take place otherwise unrest in the country will escalate.

Protesters storm Capitol, halting Electoral Vote certification


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBLyfcTCF5s
Congress was locked down and lawmakers evacuated on Wednesday in unprecedented and shocking scenes after protesters stormed Capitol Hill as lawmakers met to certify the Electoral College votes.

Protesters from a pro-Trump rally -- where President Trump spoke -- outside the White House then descended on the Capitol to protest the certification of results, before clashing with police.

Authorities soon evacuated lawmakers and the D.C. mayor declared a 6 p.m. curfew amid escalating violence in the Halls of Congress that saw police draw their weapons.

Kryztian
7th January 2021, 03:24
More absurd drama: :facepalm:




Democratic lawmakers call for Pence to invoke 25th Amendment, remove Trump from office

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532988-democratic-lawmakers-call-for-pence-to-invoke-25th-amendment-remove

Democratic lawmakers called on Vice President Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment on Wednesday and remove President Trump from office, blaming the president for inciting the rioters that violently breached the Capitol building.

"Dear @VP @Mike_Pence: You need to start the 25th Amendment. @realDonaldTrump is detached from reality," wrote Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.)

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Article continues citing more congressional tweets: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532988-democratic-lawmakers-call-for-pence-to-invoke-25th-amendment-remove

I guess this could give Pence the title of 46th President, with a term of 13 days, if he went through with this tomorrow.

Kryztian
7th January 2021, 04:55
Folks, we've discovered who is the mastermind behind todays storming of the capitol. :sherlock: Why, it's none other than Vladimir Putin!




Russiagate Democrats blame PUTIN for crowd that stormed US Capitol protesting ‘stolen’ US election
https://www.rt.com/usa/511752-russiagate-democrats-putin-capitol/

Having spent four years insisting Russia ‘hacked’ the US elections for President Donald Trump, some prominent Democrats are now blaming Moscow for Americans who stormed the US Capitol protesting the 2020 results.

As thousands of Trump supporters gathered in Washington, DC on Wednesday for a 'Stop the Steal' rally and Congress met to certify the Electoral College votes that would make Democrat Joe Biden the next US president, a group of protesters stormed the Capitol and interrupted the lawmakers.

So naturally, former President Barack Obama’s adviser Ben Rhodes declared it was a day “Putin had waited for” since the Cold War. Other blue-checkmark activists echoed the sentiment.

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Wednesday’s events were Trump’s “gift to Putin,” declared former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul.

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Article continues listing many more brainiacs who have discerned the handiwork of evil Vlad Putin here: :sun: https://www.rt.com/usa/511752-russiagate-democrats-putin-capitol/

Eva2
14th January 2021, 00:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86TR2ryhhgY