St. Germain - Ascended Master or Count Dracula?

[aceninja]

I am curious what the group thinks about St. Germain. There are countless (no pun intended) stories which are fascinating, however, the Transylvanian heritage makes this seemingly mystical story turn pretty eerie for me.

I was recently studying age regression and St Germain came to mind while down in the “rabbit hole”.

Can anyone potentially recommend additional reading or resources on this topic?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_St._Germain

[Tyy1907]

Not 100% sure who St. Germain actually was but if you look to channelled material - as there are many channellings with supposedly St. Germain - then be aware that with 90% plus of channelled material the chanellers are chanelling imposters intending to manage those with high intuitive capabilities.

[Eric J (Viking)]

I found the most accurate information and believable are the Phoenix Journals, they were originally pushed by our late George Green. They mention St Germain on numerous occasions... 47 comes to mind with link below.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/journals/J26-50.html#J047

Viking

[Inversion]

Count Saint Germain: The New Age Prophet Who lives Forever

I wasn’t impressed by this book and would give it a 6.2/10. Germain falls into a myth category. It was first printed 36 years ago in 1984. There’s a lot of fluff in the book giving examples of people who have lived long lives & health tips.

It is believed he was born to Queen Elizabeth in 1561. Others think he was the last of the Tudor family. He may have been adopted by Lord & Lady Bacon who named him Frances.

He’s rumored to have had a conversation with Jesus and may have been at the Council of Nicaea.

He is said to have suggested the Great Seal of the United States.

It’s suggested he was the founder of the Rosicrucians and Masons.

He faked his death in 1784.

The word Mesmerize came from a man named Mesmer who met with Germain. Franz Mesmer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Mesmer)

Francis Bacon/Saint Germain gave the plays to William Shakespeare.

He was a student of the bible.

There’s only six examples of Shakespeare’s writing and it appears he wasn’t accustom to holding a pen. Voltaire called him a drunken savage.

It’s believed Germain is now teaching in the Himalayas and travels to Shangri-La which is said to be a gateway to inner Earth.

Vilcabamba (Valley) in Ecuador is known as the island of immunity or the island of health and longevity.

P97. There’s a relaxation technique.

The seventh age will be directed by Saint Germain. He dreamed of creating a united states of Europe which culminated into the United States of America.

William Alexander Oribello has channeled messages from Germain.

P113-117 There’s five channeled messages from him.

P121-125 There are five meditation technique

This supposed portrait of Saint Germain was commissioned in 1785 and it's claimed he faked his death in 1784. Wikipedia claims it was done in 1783.
Image (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_St._Germain)

[Angels1981]

Omg. When i used to channel the st gernain claims the violet flame of purification. That may be an area of research to lo8k into. Alot of alien grey are mimicating them too.

[Lunesoleil]

Not 100% sure who St. Germain

The Count Saint Germain was an Alchemist and would have found the Philosopher's Stone

The Comte de Saint Germain (French. 1691 or 1712 – 27 February 1784)was a European adventurer, with an interest in science, alchemy and the arts. He achieved prominence in European high society of the mid 1700s. Prince Charles of Hesse-Kassel considered him to be "one of the greatest philosophers who ever lived".St. Germain used a variety of names and titles, an accepted practice amongst royalty and nobility at the time. These include the Marquis de Montferrat, Comte Bellamarre, Chevalier Schoening, Count Weldon, Comte Soltikoff, Graf Tzarogy and Prinz Ragoczy. In order to deflect inquiries as to his origins, he would make far-fetched claims, such as being 500 years old, leading Voltaire to sarcastically dub him "The Wonderman" and that "He is a man who does not die, and who knows everything"ect

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_St._Germain

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/6/62/20200308210431%21Count_of_St_Germain.jpg

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change the english translation
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[Inversion]

Francis Bacon/Saint Germain gave the plays to William Shakespeare.

He was a student of the bible.

There’s only six examples of Shakespeare’s writing and it appears he wasn’t accustom to holding a pen. Voltaire called him a drunken savage.

It’s believed Germain is now teaching in the Himalayas and travels to Shangri-La which is said to be a gateway to inner Earth.


Considering the above Germain may have been responsible for our current English language. Link (https://sirbacon.org/links/BaconEnglishLanguage.htm)

The video claims he could have been alive in 530 BC. He could account tails from thousands of years ago. He could speak French, German, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, English, Chinese, Latin, Arabic, Ancient Greek and was familiar with Sanskrit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iICWPu4el7k

[ExomatrixTV]

The Myth of Real Life IMMORTAL - The Count of Saint Germain:

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The Myth of Real Life IMMORTAL - The Count of Saint Germain:

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this was an interest of mine.
Did he find the philosopher's stone?
Like Newton a Witch in Alchemy.
I read accounts that he advised several generations of European Royals, never aged above the appearance of 40 in circa 400 years.
Several Royal Families kept artifacts, written documents , sketches, and jewels he traded for wealth.
The handwriting [is said to] match the sketches too.
While I hung around the Film Studios in Hollywood I was told by various sources the story of "The Count of Monte Cristo" was based on St Germain.
As for the Vampire question, one would have to advanced sufficiently in alchemy/microbiology to understand the extraction of stem cells and HGH and advanced medical knowledge of blood types/factors ages of donors and be qualified to self-administer the elements all alone [unlikely] but he may have had an apprentice which I see as likely.

So I think possibly yes on both counts [no pun]

[Olam]

I remember reading something about St-Germain being Thot. I forget where I read this though...
:-)

[norman]

I have to shrug and say, make of this what you will. It starts off like a prank but becomes more convincing as real later. His use of the word "Christianity" never feels like he knows who or what Christ is, but it's a good story of the dark era of European royal religiosity.

If you enjoy it, brace yourself for disappointment because it's only the first half before the rest dives behind a subscription paywall.

I wanted to post this in a thread that is now in 'The Vault' and cannot be added to.

Crrow777 - 649 - Fortune on His Uncle, St. Germain, and the True French Revolution (https://podbay.fm/p/crrow777radio/e/1760532975)
49 minutes - Oct 15, 2025



Show notes
Unfortunately, it is not just news, entertainment, school, and medicine that have been hijacked and deformed beyond recognition. History falls into this shameful condition as well. It is for this reason that very old books are worth their weight in gold. This is also true of accounts that have been kept in families free of mainstream manipulation and censorship. In this episode we get a non-mainstream account of the French Revolution. We are also told about the original, and much fabled, Count St. Germain. This account is given by his distant nephew and oldest surviving male member of the St. Germain family line – His Excellency Marquis Fortune de St. Germain.

[Raskolnikov]

Idk guys, I was rather impressed with Unveiled Mysteries by Godfré Ray King (that name, subtle) It's the story of actually meeting St. Germain in person on Mt. Shasta, California, written in 1934. I stumbled upon this book completely by chance. I lived in SF at the time and we had a small open bookcase down near the laundry room where tenants would leave books while others were free to take them at their leisure then either return them, add different books, or keep them, nobody was keeping track. It was just a nice gesture of community within the large 6 floor, 60 unit complex six blocks from Union Square (really, 666, cue laughtrack). I'd recently awakened from my thirty-odd-year slumber and was diving headlong into the esoteric and occult (hidden) material and suddenly I happened upon this book. I'll be honest - it was exactly what I was looking for and had a profound effect upon me. I'm not really sure how to write it off since this guy supposedly met him in the flesh, it's not channeled.

Anyway, take a look for yourselves. There's actually a whole community based upon this book in Mt. Shasta to this day. Begins to feel a bit cultish for sure, but the book itself is well worth a read as it touches upon past civilizations not recorded in our history books and the unlimited potential of a life lived in unison with God.

https://sacred-texts.com/eso/um/um05.htm

[TrumanCash]

Author/researcher William Bramley discusses St. Germain in THE GODS OF EDEN on the PDF, pp. 143 -- 148, which is available here on Avalon: https://projectavalon.net/lib/William%20Bramley%20-%20The%20Gods%20of%20Eden.pdf

[shaberon]

I would say both these ideas are in left field.

The Count died at a normal age in about his eighties.

In an embellished way? Yes. He might have seemed strange, but explainable.

[Inversion]

Andrew Basiago (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?34223-DARPA-CIA-Jump-Room-To-Mars......Andrew-Basiago-28th-Oct-2011...&highlight=Andrew+Basiago) claims he, Barack, Ed Dames and Regina Dugan (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118670-Death-toll-in-Texas-elementary-school-shooting-rises-18-children-2-adults-killed-by-shooter&p=1499984&viewfull=1#post1499984) all attended a group at The College of the Siskiyous a stone's throw from Mt. Shasta. The Lemurians supposedly relocated to a city under that mountain. Over a decade ago I was looking at the college on Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/place/College+of+the+Siskiyous/@41.4124064,-122.388214,441m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x54ce0ad7951ab9c9:0xf01c97771622f1d8!8m2!3d41.4129975!4d-122.3890908!16zL20vMDliNXl6?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTAxNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D) and there was a large triangle. It's not there now or obscured by something but there is a large X (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?122543-WEF-Davos-2024&p=1595954&viewfull=1#post1595954). I thought that could denote Telos (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32103-Mount-Shasta-Telos-3rd-4th-and-5th-Dimensions-Clarified&highlight=Telos).

Google AI

Yes, dalet literally means door in Hebrew. It is the fourth letter of the Hebrew alphabet, and its name comes from the Hebrew word for "door" or "gateway," symbolizing an entrance or passage.

Etymology: The name "dalet" comes directly from the Hebrew word for door (d'let).

Symbolism: The letter symbolizes a door, but this also carries deeper spiritual meanings, such as a gateway for transition between states of being or a portal to knowledge and God, says Beyond the Dalet.

Historical origin: The ancient Semitic pictograph for dalet was a picture of a door, which evolved into the modern Hebrew letter, according to Ancient Hebrew.org and Wikipedia.

Telos anagrams (https://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html) to Stole and Dalet to Delta or Dealt.

link (https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/alphabet/evolution-of-the-first-ten-hebrew-letters-in-graphics.htm)
https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/alphabet/files/alephbet_evolution_4.gif

Count Saint Germain is mentioned in The Book of Dzyan.
THE BOOK OF DZYAN - The story of Aliens in Ancient India (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5754-THE-BOOK-OF-DZYAN-The-story-of-Aliens-in-Ancient-India&p=1436364&viewfull=1#post1436364)

The Secret Book of Dzyan by Zinovia Dushkova

This is a small and short book with only 71 pages.

ix. According to Helena Blavatsky this work was created at the dawn of our evolutionary cycle, approximately one million years ago.

P5. There’s a list of conditions in which masters can interfere with human activities.

P16. Ancient prophecies said that at the end of time, nine out of every ten people would be insane.

P19. The sun is shining in new ways. In 2015 the new stanzas of Agapegenesis were published in The Book of Secret Wisdom.

P23. The Book of Doves in every myth is called the mother of all books.

P24. Senzar is a universal language of all creation. It’s called the language of the birds or angels.

P26. No one will bring the Book of Dzyan out of Shambhala to convince someone of its existence.

P29. The chief repository is located in the Tower of Chung in Shambhala the legendary city of the gods also known White Island.

P30. In the library of the Tower of Chung they keep dilapidated manuscripts that are written in all the languages that ever existed on Earth. This is done to preserve the energy of the epochs. The tower had been situated in the mountains of Tian Shan since post-Atlantis times until the middle 20th century. The location of Shambhala is interconnected with the core of the Earth and the fiery-white core of the sun and may be movable. It was moved to a new place in the Himalayas.

P31. There are a number of abodes with the name Shambhala. Manuscripts can be restored from the chronicles of Akasha.

P33. Millions of years ago Lucifer betrayed the great teachers.

P38. Dzyan means secret wisdom in Tibetan and has multiple volumes.

P39. It consists of a special materialized substance that resembles palm leaves. In the books matrix structure it contains energy constants which are intrinsic to the sound of the core of Sirius, but maximally attuned to vibrations inherent in the planet Earth.

P42. Excerpts revealed by Helena Blavatsky in the Secret Doctrine came from one volume of the Book of Dzyan intended for the fifth race. This manuscript is the oldest book and the source of all religions, philosophies and sciences, but only in the context of the current cycle. There are more ancient volumes of the book. The sixth and seventh races have already appeared in the world.

P43. The newer volumes are only about 5,000 years old.

P44. Blavatsky told the world about the existence of the Book of Dzyan and claimed it’s one million years old. The book is written in the language of Senzar and every enlightened heart is capable of understanding it. Its basis is sound, color, light & number(s).

P45. In the Secret Doctrine Helena described some pages of the Book of Dzyan. On the first page is an immaculate white disc within a dull black ground. On the following page is the same disk with a central point. This is a foreordained supreme will (plan). The symbols have countless numbers and hidden meanings.

P46. It’s possible to reflect on a single page for years. There’s a crystal in Tibet called Ringsel. Dzyan is a derivative of the Sanskrit Dhyana: attaining wisdom through meditation or contemplation. The book cannot be placed is someone’s hands. A master can hold pages in his gaze and imprint on space. It may appear in various colors, sizes and geometric shapes. Helena was called to Shambhala and saw this manuscript.

P47. She published three excerpts from another secret manuscript called Book of the Golden Precepts in her book The Voice of the Silence.

P48. Master Rakoczi aka Count Saint Germain was the Guardian of Theogenesis.

[delfine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osDS9Gs0s6Y

[Richter]

The Timeless Mystery of the Count de Saint-Germain
By W.A. Harbinson
From New Dawn Special Issue Vol 11 No 3 (June 2017)

While historical records prove that the man known as the Count de Saint-Germain actually existed, his life seems to defy common sense and appears almost magical. Was he a genius or charlatan?

While the exact date of Saint-Germain’s birth remains unknown, he himself stated (and the known facts support his contention) that he was the son of Franz-Leopold, Prince Ragoczy of Transylvania, and Princess Charlotte Amalia of Hesse-Wahnfried, who were married in 1694. After his brothers had been taken prisoner by the Austrians and his parents had died, he was brought up by the executors of his father’s will – the Duc de Bourbon, the Duc de Maine, and the Count of Charlerie and Toulouse – and through them was introduced to the courts of Europe as someone of princely blood and almost royal descent.

According to the historical work Illustri Italiani by Caesare Cantu, librarian of the great library in Milan, when this particular embodiment of Saint-Germain came of age, he was educated at the university of Sienna, traveled a lot in Italy and Spain, was greatly protected by the last Grand Duke of Tuscany, and eventually inherited his father’s considerable legacy, which may be why he never seemed to need money.

Little else was known about him until 1740, when he began turning up in various historical records as a man who appeared to be in his early thirties, moved in fashionable Viennese circles, and was renowned for his unusually sombre clothing, paradoxical fondness for spectacular diamonds, and penchant for telling extraordinary tales about his past life, including his claim that he had known the Holy Family (Jesus, Mary & Joseph) intimately; been present at the marriage feast at Cana; been a good friend of Anne, mother of the Virgin Mary; personally proposed her canonization at the Council of Nicaea in CE 325; and prophesied that Christ would come to a bad end.

Continue: https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/secret-history/the-timeless-mystery-of-the-count-de-saint-germain

[shaberon]

[B][U]...was greatly protected by the last Grand Duke of Tuscany, and eventually inherited his father’s considerable legacy, which may be why he never seemed to need money.


That is a better lead towards what is going on here.

It indicates the Medici Renaissance, which is significant for a number of reasons.

This was an attempt to revive or re-install what was missing from Europe, that is, a Greek or Neo-Platonic sphere and Byzantine Humanism.

Generally speaking, it moved in an arc from Tuscany to Prague and the Alchemists, then Vienna, Berlin, and finally St. Petersburg. I would suggest that St.-Germain was in this track. Most significantly one finds his famous "map" archived in the library of Dolgoruki, i. e. Helena Blavatsky's grandfather.

What he tangibly did was get involved in the assassination of a German Tsar which led to the installation of Catherine the Great.

This was a very touchy situation due to Prussia and likely attacks towards Denmark, puling Russian soldiers in tow by means of a treaty. And so, at least, in this case, nothing happened, a large conflict was avoided, and he spent his last days in Germany towards the Danish border.

Shortly after this, a fiction called Countess Adhemar Letters was published, saying that the supposedly dead Count had appeared to Marie Antoinette and gone off to business as usual. Some Theosophists such as Isabel Cooper-Oakley took this as genuine and opened the door for theories that he must still be alive and so on.


The fascination with Shamballah stems from Kalachakra, which was composed around the 900s. It is a derivative of Sambal Pur in Orissa. It has re-worked this into a self-proclaimed legend that has no objective basis.

Voice of the Silence, on the other hand, is a close version of Preliminary Lamrim-type precepts that are common in Buddhism.

What turns out to be true is that the mysterious Count was in Madras in the 1750s, the future site of Theosophical Society headquarters when established by HPB.

So, yes, he plausibly was exposed to Indian yogis at the time, and in a position of making some type of future plan, that is, towards the theosophical writings.

Many of the things that are simply said are just outlandish and not really worth dealing with, but, certainly, from around the 1740s-1780s, St.-Germain exercised an influence that affected some of what would be called powers, although he seems to have known that, after him, only a "temporary delay" had been achieved and that dreadful things would continue to coalesce into Fascism. And yes, you can trace the rise of this wave from western Europe, along with the receding Neo-Platonic sphere which wound up in Russia or the New Byzantium.

[Inversion]

I am curious what the group thinks about St. Germain. There are countless (no pun intended) stories which are fascinating, however, the Transylvanian heritage makes this seemingly mystical story turn pretty eerie for me.

I was recently studying age regression and St Germain came to mind while down in the “rabbit hole”.

Can anyone potentially recommend additional reading or resources on this topic?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_St._Germain

I wasn't going to post this video thinking it was just rehash of the limited amount of information on the Count. At 12:06 it's claimed he spoke before the signers of the Declaration of Independence then they all rushed to sign it. At 16:36 he supposedly bit a woman's neck in the French quarter in 1902. After that he disappeared and the bottles of wine he had were filled with blood. At 17:32 it shows a reproduction of the Count being taken into custody by two Bavarian soldiers during WWI. He told them there'll be another war as if he's loading the script through them. The action seems to abide by the universal law saying you have to tell someone what you're going to do to them before you do it presumably skirting karmic reverb. I suspect he's being used to steer the timeline and events, and I even speculate he could be managing loosh (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51142-The-Question-of-LOOSH----&highlight=loosh) production on the planet for reptilian consumption. Heckle Fish said adrenochrome several times. If he's the Wandering Jew (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_Jew) then Jesus is responsible for his actions by cursing him.

The Dulce Wars (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8393-The-Dulce-Base-and-Cherry-Hinkle-s-testimony&p=1505773&viewfull=1#post1505773)

P30. The Grays claim they created Jesus.

This video (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?123586-Celebrities-Named-P.-Diddy-to-Bring-down-the-Entire-Entertainment-Industry&p=1634926&viewfull=1#post1634926) by James Rink claims Saint Germain is condemning adrenochrome.

12/23/25 (32:29)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knl85VitcIg

Legend of the Immortal Alchemist: The Count of Saint Germain Revisited

In 1745, London authorities arrested a stranger who refused to give his name. His pockets were full of diamonds, and he played violin like a master.

For the next two hundred years, this man appeared at every turning point in European history. He transformed lead into gold for Casanova, repaired the King's diamond to perfection, and described ancient Rome as if he'd lived there.

He spoke twenty languages without accent and claimed to have witnessed the crucifixion. He warned Marie Antoinette before the guillotine and predicted both World Wars with eerie accuracy.

The Count of Saint Germain died in 1784. But people kept seeing him—in Paris, New Orleans, and on Mount Shasta—always the same age, always one step ahead of history.

[Bill Ryan]

For whatever it may be worth, The Why Files has recently published a video about this. The historical references — many of them hard or impossible to verify — are interesting and entertainingly presented, but (as usual!) AJ, the narrator, presents his case methodically and then debunks it, or most of it, at the end.

The Man Who Saw Christ Still Walks Among Us | Immortal Count of St Germain Revisited


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knl85VitcIg