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East Sun
14th January 2011, 22:27
What if Aliens have already taken control over the decision makers of the world and are using them to destroy most of the populations of the world in a covert way. If they are here they have advanced knowledge and technical ability far beyond ours. What top bankers and politicians are doing may be because they are being used/conditioned or mind controlled.
Then again a different scenario: Our decision makers may be working hand in glove with aliens for a joined purpose. That seems more likely.
Or even: Our controllers have captured some aliens and are forcing them to work with them to improve technology like flying saucers etc. and to change our earth for some purpose.
Something big seems to be taking place that involves advanced technology that we have access to. But what is the overall plan?
One last thing: The highest powers/bloodlines may be a form of alien/human entities, as has been supposed by many. If they are they might have new alien contact. That would be kind of scary.
I don't think that anyone knows for sure. I hope we can find out and not be deceived into believing some false set up that would have us continuing life thinking we know just like before.
There are many theories but we still don't know.:confused:

str8thinker
14th January 2011, 23:42
If you haven't already seen it, you would enjoy watching the movie "They Live!" (available on BitTorrent)

ponda
15th January 2011, 01:15
What if Aliens have already taken control over the decision makers of the world and are using them to destroy most of the populations of the world in a covert way. If they are here they have advanced knowledge and technical ability far beyond ours. What top bankers and politicians are doing may be because they are being used/conditioned or mind controlled.
Then again a different scenario: Our decision makers may be working hand in glove with aliens for a joined purpose. That seems more likely.
Or even: Our controllers have captured some aliens and are forcing them to work with them to improve technology like flying saucers etc. and to change our earth for some purpose.
Something big seems to be taking place that involves advanced technology that we have access to. But what is the overall plan?
One last thing: The highest powers/bloodlines may be a form of alien/human entities, as has been supposed by many. If they are they might have new alien contact. That would be kind of scary.
I don't think that anyone knows for sure. I hope we can find out and not be deceived into believing some false set up that would have us continuing life thinking we know just like before.
There are many theories but we still don't know.:confused:

It's probably a combination IMO.

There might be some part of the shadow government or black ops that might have or still are dealing with or most likely being used by et's.The et's give some trinket tech and then receive something in return etc.It would most likely be an agreement that is heavily in the et's favor.

It appears obvious to me that our reality has been deliberately shaped by an unseen hand.A big part of this would probably be mind control over influential humans over a long period of time.

Say for example how almost all of the recent major conflicts and new control laws appear to have been instigated by false flag events.To me these false flag events insinuate that one or both sides involved have been manipulated into the conflict by an unseen and external influence.A false flag event is constructed by higher negative entities so as to start a conflict or introduce a perceived valid reason to enable new laws.

Another example of external manipulation is how corporations seem to have complete control of governments thus enabling laws to be introduced that benefit the corporations at the expense of the general public.Some ridiculous examples are the laws that prevent people from growing their own food or collecting their own rainwater from their rooftops.The banning of alternative and natural medicines.GMO foods that have no warning or labeling.Fluoride in drinking water.Chemical pesticides and fertilizers.Terminator seeds etc

Most of this current state of affairs that we describe as our reality is upside down and the opposite of the way that it should be IMO and it is mainly because of rules,regulations and decisions that have been made by people who were unknowingly under the influence of mind control.

It's sort of like the movie that str8thinker suggested " They Live" except that the disguised et's are just humans who are being mind controlled.

The highest human bloodlines are the ones who have the closest link to the negative influences and hence the least publicity and the most power,influence and money.They most likely have a distorted perception of reality and are extremely limited in what they can and can't do.They have money and influence but limited freedom.

slipknotted
15th January 2011, 01:56
i feel that they are in control things happen bacause they allow them to, pretty strange that we dont know our history, if there's a true god as in the bible you woulnt have the bad things like war, starvation etc. but if it was a expirament you would let things play out positive and negative, i wounder if they are in control of our spirit or just the the body/dna. like the matrix movie the machines designed the perfect word and the humans just didnt buy it. i would have to say i wish the bible was our history but deep down i know we are just ants in a ant farm being studied as such.

ponda
15th January 2011, 06:05
i feel that they are in control things happen bacause they allow them to, pretty strange that we dont know our history, if there's a true god as in the bible you woulnt have the bad things like war, starvation etc. but if it was a expirament you would let things play out positive and negative, i wounder if they are in control of our spirit or just the the body/dna. like the matrix movie the machines designed the perfect word and the humans just didnt buy it. i would have to say i wish the bible was our history but deep down i know we are just ants in a ant farm being studied as such.

Calling this reality an experiment is only one perspective of it and implies that the experimenters can do as they like.To get a more enlightened perspective one would have to be able to see the bigger picture and know the true history of humans and the planet.This true history has been covered up by negative influences so i would guess that the cover up is in their best interests.

I doubt that they would be permitted to take control of our spirit/soul as such but they do give a unique negative experience to individuals who have been incarnated on Earth over the years.

Yes it is a bit like the Matrix.The real truth is hidden and everyone is being taken advantage of by higher unseen forces.

Dale
15th January 2011, 14:05
I suppose ET beings are here, there, and everywhere; doing a good bit of everything. Some may have an interest in our political systems, others may be watching the ebb and flow of our gene pool, and others may spend weekends walking about college campuses.

Kent Fallman
15th January 2011, 20:40
If you haven't already seen it, you would enjoy watching the movie "They Live!" (available on BitTorrent)
I followed your recommendation and downloaded it. I who have knowledge understood the message, but do " normal " people get it ? Otherwise the b-movie sucked horse balls.

Koyaanisqatsi
15th January 2011, 21:29
Dual realities= yes, there are unseen/unknown forces influencing world affairs and our lives. Ask yourself the magic question:"So what?"
So what? Live your life to the fullest, suck the marrow out of life, and unless contemplating these issues enriches you in some way, don't do it. The mind serves the soul, not the other way around. If your views on ETs are scary, fearful or cause you stress and degrade your mental, stop entirely or change your perspective to one that empowers you, enriches your mind and soul. SO WHAT??? We have our lives to live right here right now staring us in the face and we go off minds in the stars. Balance the dual realities, its a heavy responsibility..........

ponda
16th January 2011, 00:45
Yeah we sure do still have to make the most of it and try to enjoy life but a big part of that might be thinking about why things are the way they are.If what we start to uncover might seem a bit scary then just remember that this perception is not really anything to be afraid of.The truth is hidden for reasons.Perhaps the hidden forces are the ones who live in fear of the truth being revealed.

str8thinker
16th January 2011, 11:47
(petroleum said) I followed your recommendation and downloaded it. I who have knowledge understood the message, but do " normal " people get it ?

A good point. Do little kids appreciate the adult innuendos in The Simpsons and Futurama? I agree "They Live!" is a C-grade movie, but like so many others, such as "The Matrix", a return visit is called for before all its implications are apparent. The same may be said of great books and symphonies. To paraphrase Richard Hoagland, "the meaning is different at every level".

It is a clever film director who can get messages across at different levels. Walt Disney and Steven Spielberg are masters. I find it a pleasure deriving new meanings from watching old movies.

Which reminds me - anyone know where I can download a good quality version of the 1977 "hoax" movie Alternative 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_3), which was only ever shown once on TV?

East Sun
17th January 2011, 03:36
If you haven't already seen it, you would enjoy watching the movie "They Live!" (available on BitTorrent)

I have not seen the movie yet but movies are just make believe and can suggest anything. Yeah, some profound info. is revealed in movies but we can not tell what is 'real' and what is just total fiction.