Science - What could go wrong?

[Sue (Ayt)]

Thought I'd start a thread about science innovations that have gone wrong, or could go wrong in the future. These can be in tech, medicine, procedures, any science applications really... just about anything tried that has had or could have negative consequences.

What failures have we seen in the past, current, or anticipated for the future that have or may result in some dire consequences? I would guess we can think of many!

Here is an article I read today, to start:


Escaped cloned female mutant crayfish take over Belgian cemetery

Escaped self-cloning mutant crayfish created in experimental breeding programmes have invaded a Belgian cemetery.

Hundreds of the duplicating crustaceans, which can dig down to up to a metre and are always female, pose a deadly threat to local biodiversity after colonising a historic Antwerp graveyard.

"It's impossible to round up all of them. It's like trying to empty the ocean with a thimble," said Kevin Scheers, of the Flemish Institute for Nature and Woodland Research.

Marbled crayfish, which travel across land and water at night and eat whatever they can, do not occur in nature and are banned by the European Union.

Instead, the freshwater beasts, which are about 10cm big and voracious, are thought to have been bred by unscrupulous German pet traders in the 1990s.

They are similar to the slough crayfish found in Florida but are parthenogenetic, which means they reproduce with themselves and all their children are genetically identical females.

The mutation, which occurred about 25 years ago, means populations can spring up rapidly from just a single Procambarus virginalis.

In 2018, scientists established the global marbled crayfish population was descended from a single female and didn't need males to reproduce.

The EU banned possession and release of the uncanny crayfish in 2014 but it is impossible to trace the owners because all the crayfish are genetically exactly the same.

The crayfish have taken root in the pools and streams of the Schoonselhof cemetery in Antwerp, which is known as the Flemish city's Pere Lachaise.

Link is here (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/escaped-cloned-female-mutant-crayfish-take-over-belgian-cemetery/YZDGK4GTJKKML7Y76OELOTHGPA/?fbclid=IwAR15nKqBttw55HrXa52FTQkIstXRmyvZHfttjW7QYph_qVp-Y0zaXqPGbqA)

[O Donna]

I'm no expert but COVID19 'vaccine' comes to mind immediately. At best, in the long run, the benefits of the vaccine will be negligible when weighed against the negative. Though I suspect such a result would almost certainly be delayed or never reported in mainstream news portals.

https://www.aamc.org/sites/default/files/Salk-768x666.jpg

The Truth Will Prevail

http://www.chiropractic.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/1200-studies-The-Truth-Will-Prevail-3.pdf

[Matthew]

Scientists are working on vaccines that spread like a disease. What could possibly go wrong?
By Filippa Lentzos, Guy Reeves | September 18, 2020
https://thebulletin.org/2020/09/scientists-are-working-on-vaccines-that-spread-like-a-disease-what-could-possibly-go-wrong/


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Who decides, for instance, where and when a vaccine should be released? Once released, scientists will no longer be in control of the virus. It could mutate, as viruses naturally do. It may jump species. It will cross borders. There will be unexpected outcomes and unintended consequences. There always are.

While it may turn out to be technically feasible to fight emerging infectious diseases like COVID-19, AIDS, Ebola, and Zika with self-spreading viruses, and while the benefits may be significant, how does one weigh those benefits against what may be even greater risks?

How they work. Self-spreading vaccines are essentially genetically engineered viruses designed to move through populations in the same way as infectious diseases, but rather than causing disease, they confer protection. Built on the chassis of a benign virus, the vaccines have genetic material from a pathogen added to them that stimulates the creation of antibodies or white blood cells in “infected” hosts.


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[Dorjezigzag]

Asbestos Cigarette Filters

In 1952 – 1956 Hollingsworth & Vose Company produced filters containing crocidolite asbestos to use in their cigarette brand; Kent Micronite. The asbestos provided heat resistance filters contained asbestos to provide heat resistance and were unbelievably marketed as “the greatest health protection in cigarette history”. A study revealed that smoking one pack of original Kent Micronite a day would expose a smoker to 131 million crocidolite fibres a year.

http://www.carymar.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/sites/4590/2015/06/kent-cigarettes.jpg

[Tintin]

I'm no expert but COVID19 'vaccine' comes to mind immediately. At best, in the long run, the benefits of the vaccine will be negligible when weighed against the negative. Though I suspect such a result would almost certainly be delayed or never reported in mainstream news portals.

https://www.aamc.org/sites/default/files/Salk-768x666.jpg

The Truth Will Prevail

http://www.chiropractic.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/1200-studies-The-Truth-Will-Prevail-3.pdf

A great resource :thumbsup:

I've downloaded this and will be sure to get this in to the library.

Please do note that the original link is broken. This 11MB document can be downloaded from here (https://dokumen.pub/qdownload/truth-will-prevail-1200-studies-that-refute-vaccine-claims-26nbsped.html) now.

There's a couple of steps to jump through, but with a little patience you'll get there (do ignore the advertisements, and the potentially off-putting 'download' prompts; there are many!)

https://dokumen.pub/qdownload/truth-will-prevail-1200-studies-that-refute-vaccine-claims-26nbsped.html

[Ewan]

Just found this thread, thanks Sue.

Shockingly low amount of replies, this thread should be massive!

I would post a few hundred answers but unfortuantely I'm in the deep procrastination stage of my current incarnation.

C'mon guys, step up to the plate on my behalf!

[Journeyman]

Asbestos Cigarette Filters

In 1952 – 1956 Hollingsworth & Vose Company produced filters containing crocidolite asbestos to use in their cigarette brand; Kent Micronite. The asbestos provided heat resistance filters contained asbestos to provide heat resistance and were unbelievably marketed as “the greatest health protection in cigarette history”. A study revealed that smoking one pack of original Kent Micronite a day would expose a smoker to 131 million crocidolite fibres a year.


Beggars belief!

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3085/3166954185_0e3f95db0c_b.jpg

[Matthew]

Genetically engineered ‘Magneto’ protein remotely controls brain and behaviour

“Badass” new method uses a magnetised protein to activate brain cells rapidly, reversibly, and non-invasively

Mo Costandi
@mocost
Thu 24 Mar 2016 14.30 GMT

https://amp.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2016/mar/24/magneto-remotely-controls-brain-and-behaviour?__twitter_impression=true&s=08


Researchers in the United States have developed a new method for controlling the brain circuits associated with complex animal behaviours, using genetic engineering to create a magnetised protein that activates specific groups of nerve cells from a distance.

Understanding how the brain generates behaviour is one of the ultimate goals of neuroscience – and one of its most difficult questions. In recent years, researchers have developed a number of methods that enable them to remotely control specified groups of neurons and to probe the workings of neuronal circuits.

The most powerful of these is a method called optogenetics, which enables researchers to switch populations of related neurons on or off on a millisecond-by-millisecond timescale with pulses of laser light. Another recently developed method, called chemogenetics, uses engineered proteins that are activated by designer drugs and can be targeted to specific cell types.

Although powerful, both of these methods have drawbacks. Optogenetics is invasive, requiring insertion of optical fibres that deliver the light pulses into the brain and, furthermore, the extent to which the light penetrates the dense brain tissue is severely limited. Chemogenetic approaches overcome both of these limitations, but typically induce biochemical reactions that take several seconds to activate nerve cells.

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[Sue (Ayt)]

My grandmom was treated with this "new miracle remedy" for arthritis, back in the day. She would faithfully go to her local doctor for her wonderful injection to alleviate her pain, and came to demanding it over the years, as any withdrawal from it resulted in supreme agony. Her bones literally disintegrated as she aged, and it was horrendous to watch, and it did result in her death. Guess they gave it out like candy before realizing the side effects. Whoops.

It is not a black and white issue, though. Steroids are life-saving when used appropriately.
Fools rush in.


In 1949, Philip S. Hench and colleagues discovered that large doses of injected cortisone were effective in the treatment of patients with severe rheumatoid arthritis.[12] Kendall was awarded the 1950 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine along with Philip Showalter Hench and Tadeusz Reichstein for the discovery of the structure and function of adrenal cortex hormones including cortisone.

Side effects
Oral use of cortisone has a number of potential systemic adverse effects: Asthma, hyperglycemia, insulin resistance, diabetes mellitus, osteoporosis, anxiety, depression, amenorrhoea, cataracts, glaucoma, Cushing's syndrome, increased risk of infections, and impaired growth.[1][2] With topical application, it can lead to thinning of the skin, impaired wound healing, increased skin pigmentation, tendon rupture, and skin infections (including abscesses).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortisone#History

[Dorjezigzag]

This is an obvious and famous case but needs to go into this thread.

THE THALIDOMIDE TRAGEDY: LESSONS FOR DRUG SAFETY AND REGULATION

https://helix.northwestern.edu/sites/helix/files/styles/16by9/public/field/image/GettyImages_50674351_helix.jpg?itok=wklBTC54

Many children in the 1960's, like the kindergartner pictured above, were born with phocomelia as a side effect of the drug thalidomide, resulting in the shortening or absence of limbs.

[Karen (Geophyz)]

Human-animal hybrid embryos

In May 2008 a cross-party attempt to ban hybrid human animal embryos was defeated on a free vote in the House of Commons, by 336 to 176. MPs had been debating the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, which would allow regulated research using hybrid or 'admix' embryos, where the nuclei of human cells are inserted into animal eggs. The resulting embryos would be kept for up to 14 days to harvest stem cells.

In the present state of science, hybrid embryos are produced as research tools, and only kept alive for 14 days or fewer. The article below only deals with the ethical issues of this case, and not with the ethics of producing new creatures that are a combination of animal and human.

A hybrid embryo is a mixture of both human and animal tissue. There are several types of hybrid embryo (listed below), but recent controversy has focused on cytoplasmic embryos.

These are created by transferring nuclei containing DNA from human cells into animal eggs that have had almost all of their genetic information removed.

The resulting embryos are more than 99% human, with a small animal component, making up around 0.1% (more detail below).

The embryos are grown in the lab for a few days, then harvested for stem cells: immature cells that can become many types of tissue. The embryonic stem cells are used in research into different diseases as a way of addressing the shortage of human eggs available for research.

Scientists do not intend to actually create living animal-human hybrids. [Such beings are often referred to as chimeras after a creature in Greek mythology which had a lion's head, a goat's body, and a serpent's tail.]

Some 200 medical charities have urged MPs to support legislation allowing the creation of animal-human embryos.

Possible types of animal/human hybrid embryos
Cytoplasmic hybrid embryos: embryos created through cell nuclear replacement using animal eggs
Hybrid embryos: embryos created by mixing human sperm and animal eggs or human eggs and animal sperm
Human chimera embryos: human embryos which have animal cells added to them during early development
Animal chimera embryos: animal embryos which have human cells added to them during early development
Transgenic human embryos: human embryos which have animal genes inserted into them during early development

Source: Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/animals/using/hybridembryos_1.shtml

[Sue (Ayt)]

List of Drugs withdrawn from the market (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_withdrawn_drugs)
"Where risks or harms is the reason for withdrawal, this will usually have been prompted by unexpected adverse effects that were not detected during Phase III clinical trials, i.e. they were only made apparent from postmarketing surveillance data collected from the wider community over longer periods of time."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_withdrawn_drugs

[Matthew]

Genetically engineered ‘Magneto’ protein remotely controls brain and behaviour

“Badass” new method uses a magnetised protein to activate brain cells rapidly, reversibly, and non-invasively

Mo Costandi
@mocost
Thu 24 Mar 2016 14.30 GMT

https://amp.theguardian.com/science/neurophilosophy/2016/mar/24/magneto-remotely-controls-brain-and-behaviour?__twitter_impression=true&s=08


Researchers in the United States have developed a new method for controlling the brain circuits associated with complex animal behaviours, using genetic engineering to create a magnetised protein that activates specific groups of nerve cells from a distance.

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Possibly talking about the same study


Disabling parts of the brain with magnets can weaken faith in God and change attitudes to immigrants, study finds
By shutting down the threat-processing centre of the brain, scientists weakened people's faith in God and made them less prejudiced
Doug Bolton
Thursday 15 October 2015 13:56

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/news/brain-magnets-decrease-faith-god-religion-immigrants-a6695291.html


A joint team of American and British scientists have discovered that powerful magnetic pulses to the brain can temporarily change people's feelings on a variety of subjects - from their belief in God, to their attitude to immigration.


The study, published in the journal Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience, saw scientists use a metal coil to create strong magnetic fields around certain parts of the brain.

The non-invasive practice is called trancranial magnetic stimulation, and has can be used to treat depression.

However, researchers have now found that by targeting the part of the brain that deals with threats, they can temporarily change people's beliefs and views.

The team, comprised of scientists from the University of York and the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), used 39 politically moderate students as test subjects.

The two were split into two groups - one, the control group, was given a sham dose of magnetism that was not strong enough to influence brain activity.

The other got a strong pulse of TMS that was strong enough to temporarily shut down their posterior medial frontal cortex (pMFC), a part of the brain that "plays a key role in both detecting discrepancies between desired and current conditions and adjusting subsequent behaviour to resolve such conflicts."

In other words, this part of the brain processes threats and conflicts, and decides how to respond to them.

Before receiving their doses of TMS, both groups were asked about their own deaths. In this area, the tests built on previous studies, which have shown that being confronted with the threat of death can alter a person's belief in God.

The students were then treated with their respective doses of TMS, with half receiving a dose capable of severely lessening activity in the threat-processing centre of the brain.

The collected results showed a marked difference in attitudes between the two groups.

Amongst those who received the strong magnetic dose, 32.8 per cent fewer had decreased beliefs in God, angels and heaven compared to the control group who received no dose.

And 25.8 per cent more of those who had received TMS had a more positive response to the immigrant who had written a negative letter about their country.

In other words, those given the magnetic treatment were found to have decreased beliefs in God and more positive views towards immigrants.

Dr Keise Izuma, of the authors of the study from the University of York, said: "As expected, we found that when we experimentally turned down the posterior medial frontal cortex, people were less inclined to reach for comforting religious ideas despite having been reminded of death."


Speaking about the part of the test which involved attitude to immigrants, he added: "We think that hearing criticisms of your group's values, perhaps especially from a person you perceive as an outsider, is processed as an ideological sort of threat."

"One way to respond to such threats is to 'double down' on your group values, increasing your investment in them, and reacting more negatively to the critic."

"When we disrupted the brain region that usually helps detect and respond to threats, we saw a less negative, less ideologically motivated reaction to the critical author and his opinions."

Whether we're dealing with everyday threats, such as security at work, or more abstract ones, such as the idea of God and death or the issue of immigration, our brains are using the same basic structure - and its activity can be reduced with magnetic fields.

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[gord]

Me and a 2nd cousin, in August 1980 [edit: it was 1979], in Nova Scotia. She was born there in 1966. Thalidomide.
https://i.imgur.com/HCdd6js.jpg?1

[Mashika]

Most of the world is with ToT on vaccine injury denial. We are the exception. Could say any truther forum worth its salt should be sceptical?, but the single holistic view is shared between Project Avalon and ToT; only together do we represent some kind of balanced view that mirrors the bigger world. We split opposing views across two different threads, so why not take that to the next level and say for opposing views that have harder edges, well... take it to the next level; split forums actually makes sense. It happened naturally for a reason.


Having a hard view on something and never allowing yourself to look at it from the other side, or be open for change in the current view or accepted 'facts' is not scientific at all, it's 'science as a religion' view :)

Personally i know two friends, one who almost died overnight after taking the vaccine, and one that had 1 entire week of being unable to get out of bed just the afternoon after the vaccine was taken

It can be said "well there may have been some prior condition that somehow collided with something in the vaccine". And the person who suggests that as a way to say "it wasn't the vaccine" has to return to middle school and relearn a few things :p That's now how science works at all.... If you inject something that is supposed to be safe, and certified as such, and it doesn't work and almost kill you, then it obviously wasn't tested entirely, since you have a case where it *almost kill you*. It has to be fixed so that people with that specific condition do not die. Has it? No? Then it means there is something wrong with the vaccine because it can kill people and nobody has fixed it or know exactly why

See the issue is simple:

1. Can this vaccine prevent covid? No
2. Can it help prevent some of the side effects and prevent dead? Yes/Maybe
3. Can it kill people or cause them physical harm and bad side effects? Yes
4. Do we know why it can kill people or cause bad side effects? Not entirely
5. Do we have a way to test or know who may die or have bad side effects? Not at all
6. Is anything being done to fix those problems and have a safe way to identify beforehand who must take and who must not take it? Unclear

Questions and answers, very 'scientific'

On the other hand:

1.Can it kill people or cause them physical harm and bad side effects? What? It's 'the vaccine'!!! What's wrong with you!!!!! Murderer! It's science!

People used to use Asbestos as snow, and it was "perfectly safe" until it wasn't. And coke and even methamphetamine were all just regular stuff, until they weren't. Before my words get twisted, it should be clear that what i'm saying is, things change and new evidence or side effects of drugs are found, because that's how real science works
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWczialQVePySz0v5n0HzGjGK7xW4pgTvGUcsrLzaKo23MImpsU80hQGBTihDi05l-Hc9I-IspM6li7gVPxExE3zTmQ_mdl34PWEkMf841JPHqLpeEFJZjQy7wQ_EyqKqAcUZBfJf2QciIHT9g3PM28=w316-h445-no?authuser=0


What today is 'safe' tomorrow could not be at all. So having a so narrow and hard view of anything related to science is wrong, is not true science, it is 'science as religion', the 'sacred word of science' and 'anyone who dares to go against the sacred word will be burn at the stake' kind of view

If people had not allowed for true science to come along, we would still be taking heroin to treat coughs

And no.. I'm not saying that the covid vaccine is equal to heroine or any other drug drug.....


It's ok to have some hard views sometimes, but don't make the views so narrow that not even true honest science can pass through



What is the lesser, minority view (that mRNA vaccines can maim you) is the majority view here, and visa-versa with ToT. Chalk and cheese, ying and yang, Mulder and Scully. I find it easy to gloss over difference of opinion with Frank, and when he laughs in our general direction, well.. at least we've seen him do the right thing when he believes it, despite any personal awkwardness... that is still pretty awesome imVho.

:flower::dancing::Avalon:

Poor ying and yang :P

There is a city where two families live, one of the family parent is a good educated guy working at a police station, hard working and honest. Second parent is a robber, nasty and violent out there but keeps being gentle with his kids, they don't know who he truly is

Both of them have their families and take care of them, but in different ways. So it's Christmas eve and both parents go out and promise to be back later night for dinner and so on. Both have in mind the gifts and dinner. One goes to work at police station the other one at the streets trying to find the money for gifts and dinner

Robber finds a person to mug, turns out to be the cop taking money out of the atm to buy some stuff for night.

One of them will die tonight, so that one of them gets home safety. One of them gets to keep going on while the other won't

In any of both cases, there will be some kids sitting waiting for their parent to get home to have dinner, because those kids have no idea what happens out there and are completely innocent. But yet, only one of those two families will receive the phone call and won't have a wonderful Christmas

For one family to have a great dinner and thank God for it, the other will not

Poor Ying and Yang, nobody understands it :(

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

RADIUM GIRLS

At the onset of World War I, several factories were established across the United States to produce watches and military dials painted with a material containing radium, a radioactive element that glows in the dark. Hundreds of young women were hired for the well-paying painting jobs because their small hands were well suited for the exacting, detailed work.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Marie_Curie_1903.jpg

Radium had been discovered just 20 years earlier by French physicists Marie Curie and Pierre Curie, and its properties were not well known. Because it had been used successfully in the treatment of cancer, many considered radium a miracle element, and a variety of commercial products were manufactured in which radium was an ingredient, including toothpaste and cosmetics.

The women hired to paint dials came to be known as “ghost girls” because the radium dust to which they were exposed daily made their clothes, hair, and skin literally glow. Many of the women wore their best dresses on the job so the fabric would shine brilliantly when they went dancing after work. Some even applied the paint to their teeth because it gave them radiant smiles.

What’s more, the painters ingested the radioactive substance as part of their job. Because some of the watch dials on which they worked were extremely small, they were instructed to use their lips to bring their paint brushes to a fine point. When they asked about radium’s safety, they were assured by their managers that they had nothing to worry about.

Of course, that wasn’t true. Radium can be extremely dangerous, especially with repeated exposure. Marie Curie suffered radiation burns while handling it, and she eventually died from radiation exposure. Other researchers also perished.

It wasn’t long before the “Radium Girls” began to experience the physical ravages of their exposure. Among the first was Amelia (“Mollie”) Maggia, who painted watches for the Radium Luminous Materials Corp. (later the United States Radium Corp.) in Orange, New Jersey. Maggia’s first symptom was a toothache, which required the removal of the tooth. Soon the tooth next to it also had to be extracted. Painful ulcers, bleeding and full of pus, developed where the teeth had been.

The mysterious malady spread throughout Maggia’s mouth and lower jaw, which had to be removed, then into other parts of her body. Maggia died on September 12, 1922, of a massive hemorrhage. Doctors were puzzled as to the cause of her condition, and, oddly, they determined that she had died of syphilis.

In growing numbers, other Radium Girls became deathly ill, experiencing many of the same agonizing symptoms as Maggia. For two years their employer vociferously denied any connection between the girls’ deaths and their work. Facing a downturn in business because of the growing controversy, the company finally commissioned an independent study of the matter, which concluded that the painters had died from the effects of radium exposure. Refusing to accept the report’s findings, the company commissioned additional studies that came to the opposite conclusion, and it decried the girls who had taken ill. The public continued to assume that radium was safe.

In 1925 a pathologist named Harrison Martland developed a test that proved conclusively that radium had poisoned the watch painters by destroying their bodies from the inside. The radium industry tried to discredit Martland’s findings, but the Radium Girls themselves fought back. Many knew that their days were numbered, but they wanted to do something to help their colleagues still working with the deadly substance.

In 1927 attorney Raymond Berry agreed to accept their case. Many of the watch painters had just months to live and were forced to accept an out-of-court settlement. Still, their experiences made the issue of radium safety a front-page story across the world. But, even then, the United States Radium Corp. denied its role, and women continued to get sick and die. It wasn’t until 1938, when a dying radium worker named Catherine Wolfe Donohue successfully sued the Radium Dial Co. over her illness, that the issue was finally settled.

The legacy of the Radium Girls can’t be understated. Their case was among the first in which a company was held responsible for the health and safety of its employees, and it led to a variety of reforms as well as to the creation of the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

https://www.britannica.com/story/radium-girls-the-women-who-fought-for-their-lives-in-a-killer-workplace

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[Vicus]

Everything...

How the 1993 Movie “Demolition Man” Perfectly Predicted (and Ridiculed) Today’s Society


The movie Demolition Man is probably the most predictive sci-fi movie I’ve ever seen. It also predicted self-driving electric cars that look exactly like Teslas, Arnold Schwarzenegger becoming a politician, people conversing with Alexa/Siri-type machines, the widespread use of biometrics and artificial intelligence, the disappearance of small restaurants to be replaced by monopolistic chains, and much more. All of this was pure science fiction in 1993. But it could happen if society took a specific direction. And it did.

The future depicted in Demolition Man was meant as satire. It was basically a warning saying: “Here’s how things could end up if we’re not careful”. Today, which is ten years from the movie’s “future”, we can easily say that the satire has become reality. The jokes of the film have become our annoying reality.

The COVID pandemic allowed unelected “doctors” to rule every aspect of our lives and dictate oppressive policies. QR codes and microchips are creeping into our everyday lives. Opinions and attitudes that do not fit the current orthodoxy are immediately censored and punished. General manliness and womanliness are frowned upon and deemed undesirable.

While we are being conditioned to think that all of this is normal, IT IS NOT. Demolition Man is like a distant voice from the past telling us:

This fascist crap makes me puke!

https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/how-the-1993-movie-demolition-man-accurately-predicted-what-is-happening-now/

[Sue (Ayt)]

Unfortunately, yes, I do remember us neighborhood kids having great fun chasing the mosquito man's truck in the summer.
:(

Remember chasing the mosquito man's truck?

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5af5c9063e2d0944620f29b3/1563035722823-U8W45VCR89JN2R4UKW9W/chase2jpg-958171f227c08d6d.jpg?format=500w
Chasing the mosquito man

In the age of the Zika virus, some are wondering if it is time to end to the ban on DDT, a pesticide that was once widely used to fight mosquitoes.

In the late 1940s, and into the 1950s and 1960s, trucks would drive through the streets spraying the pesticide, leaving a thick fog behind.

Fog machine spells death to mosquitoes

Many on Staten Island have memories of running behind the fog trucks -- the mosquito-killing fog was exciting and mysterious to the kids of the time. The driver of the truck was often referred to as the “mosquito man.” That ended when DDT was banned in 1972.

This photo ran in the Advance on Aug. 21, 1967. The caption read: "A fogging machine spells death to mosquitoes as it lets loose its DDT mixture on brush along Holden Blvd. near Bradley Avenue in Meiers Corners."
More pictures at Link (https://www.silive.com/news/2016/07/remember_chasing_the_mosquito.html)

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Long-Lasting Health Impacts of DDT Highlighted in New Study
Report shows a critical need to study other pesticides and chemicals
By Carey Gillam | Apr 23 2021

A new research report shows health problems linked to the long-banned insecticide DDT have persisted across at least three generations, affecting even the granddaughters of women exposed to the chemical in the 1960s.

The research, which was published April 14 in the Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention Journal, is the latest in a series of findings generated from a relatively unique study that began in the 1960s, when DDT was widely used. Researchers obtained blood samples from women in their third trimester of pregnancy and also just after they gave birth to determine their DDT exposure. More than 15,000 women seeking obstetric care at the Kaiser Foundation Health Plan in the San Francisco Bay Area from 1959 to 1967 were included in the original study.

Previous findings showed that daughters of the women who had more DDT in their blood had a much heightened risk for breast cancer and increased prevalence of obesity, while sons had heightened risks for testicular cancer.

The new analysis marks the first confirmation that the granddaughters of those women with DDT in their blood samples drawn decades ago also have a higher risk for obesity as well as early menstruation. These conditions are related to cardiometabolic problems such as insulin resistance, impaired glucose tolerance, and high blood pressure, and increased risk for breast cancer and some other cancers.

The findings support the theory that grandmother exposures to DDT could have contributed to a dramatic increase in obesity seen today in young adult women, and that exposure to DDT just before or after birth is associated with breast cancer risk factors for at least three generations, according to the study.

The work is significant, not just for what it shows about DDT and long-term health impacts, but also because it underscores a critical need for more long-term studies of the impacts of other pesticides and chemicals we have been, and currently are, exposed to, according to study author Barbara Cohn, director and senior research scientist of the Child Health and Development Studies program at the Public Health Institute in Berkeley, California.
More at link (https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/long-lasting-health-impacts-ddt-highlighted-new-study)

[norman]

Mainstream science is FAKE science: Hundreds of peer-reviewed studies to be RETRACTED because they were “manipulated”
Friday, October 07, 2022 by: Ethan Huff

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-10-07-hundreds-peer-reviewed-studies-retracted-manipulated.html


https://www.naturalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2022/10/Immune-System-Science-Vocabulary.jpg


Another couple hundred peer-reviewed papers are slated for removal (https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/follow-the-science-scientific-journal-publisher-to-retract-hundreds-of-manipulated-peer-reviewed-papers/) from the journals in which they were published after it was revealed that they are all “manipulated.”

The latest in a growing list of fake science studies that were published in supposedly reputable journals and later retracted due to fraud, the dump comes from Hindawi, a scientific journal publisher that covers more than 230 peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Hindawi says that after months of investigative review, it has decided to retract 511 papers across 16 of its journals, according to Retraction Watch, a watchdog group that keeps a close eye on such matters.

“The retractions, which the publisher and its parent company, Wiley, will announce tomorrow in a blog post, will be issued in the next month, and more may come as its investigation continues,” Retraction Watch says.

“They are not yet making the list available.” (Related: Just recently, The Lancet self-retracted a published letter (https://naturalnews.com/2021-09-24-mocking-covid-lab-origin-lancet-issues-retraction.html) that mocked the lab origin theory of covid.)

Hindawi’s research integrity team reportedly identified numerous signs of manipulation throughout the papers, including duplicated text. Some of the peer reviews were also found to have been done too quickly to actually be accurate, while others misused the databases that are used by publishers to vet potential reviewers.

“Peer review and citation rings” behind prolific science journal fraud

Another major publisher, SAGE, also recently announced the retraction of some 60 articles that are implicated in a “peer review and citation ring” taking place at the Journal of Vibration and Control (JVC).

A 14-month investigation uncovered what is said to be the “full extent” of science journal fraud at SAGE. The “strongly suspected” ringleader of that misconduct is believed to be Peter Chen, formerly of the National Pingtung University of Education in Taiwan (NPUE).

“While investigating the JVC papers submitted and reviewed by Peter Chen, it was discovered that the author had created various aliases on SAGE Track, providing different email addresses to set up more than one account,” Retraction Watch says.

“Consequently, SAGE scrutinised further the co-authors of and reviewers selected for Peter Chen’s papers, these names appeared to form part of a peer review ring. The investigation also revealed that on at least one occasion, the author Peter Chen reviewed his own paper under one of the aliases he had created.”

Mind you, all of these corrupted papers are used by medical professionals to hone their practice. Whatever fraud is contained within them ultimately gets transferred to patients who receive fraudulent “care” based on fraudulent “science.”

Science fraudsters who use their own names rather than aliases are still committing fraud in other ways, Retraction Watch says. There exists a large network of science liars who scratch each other’s backs by favorably reviewing and rubber-stamping each other’s work, no matter how fraudulent it might be.

“The reward system in academia requires publication of articles in journals, and measures the number of citations those articles receive,” writes Thomas Lifson for American Thinker (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/10/over_500_scientific_papers_to_be_withdrawn_by_publisher.html).

“Such a system is inherently vulnerable to cooperation among like-minded scholars who push each other’s work into print and cite each other.”

Even when papers are withdrawn, there is still a “massive” problem of those same papers being cited over and over again in other papers. Even if a study gets retracted, in other words, the damage has already been – and continues to be – done over the course of time.

“Correcting the situation will not be easy, but a first step would be to institute criminal penalties for research and review fraud,” Lifson says.

“A ‘cultural revolution’ of sorts is needed in academia, with a pervasive ethic of honesty enforced by social pressure as well as laws.”

More related news coverage about the corruption of science can be found at ScienceFraud.news (http://sciencefraud.news/).


This Amazing Polly video is an eye opener for anyone who doubts that Science Journals and the peer review process could ever be a criminal racket.

Just look at who the big players have been, for a very long time !

MAXWELL, EPSTEIN AND THE CONTROL OF SCIENCE SINCE WW2

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[Johnnycomelately]

Mainstream science is FAKE science: Hundreds of peer-reviewed studies to be RETRACTED because they were “manipulated”
Friday, October 07, 2022 by: Ethan Huff

https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-10-07-hundreds-peer-reviewed-studies-retracted-manipulated.html


Another couple hundred peer-reviewed papers are slated for removal (https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/follow-the-science-scientific-journal-publisher-to-retract-hundreds-of-manipulated-peer-reviewed-papers/) from the journals in which they were published after it was revealed that they are all “manipulated.”

The latest in a growing list of fake science studies that were published in supposedly reputable journals and later retracted due to fraud, the dump comes from Hindawi, a scientific journal publisher that covers more than 230 peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Here is some more fuel for that fire. I don’t think wishing Peace is incongruent here, so, Peace.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuqDu9ZCP_c

[Matthew]

Project OSCAR.

I can imagine the advert they'd make for this:

Do you like Lego? Do you like synthetic biology... well with project OSCAR you can have both! Your fun synthetic pal. Take him everywhere. Look at him go.

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Read more here: https://mikeshouts.com/project-oscar-the-modular-body/
Or alteratively try and hitch a ride off this planet ASAP.

[Ernie Nemeth]

That's some Frankensteinian shiznitz.

Snap a head module up a butt module and you got the perfect model of these scientists.

[Ewan]

That's some Frankensteinian shiznitz.

Snap a head module up a butt module and you got the perfect model of these scientists.

Poetry Ernie, poetry. :bigsmile:

[Matthew]

Just a heads up:


https://twitter.com/Demo2020cracy/status/1631739583992852481
Anti Lockdown Alliance(GLOBAL)
@Demo2020cracy
🤔 Head transplant.

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This is utterly mad.

[jaybee]

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re the head transplant thing - it is utterly sickening to me that they will have practiced this many many times on poor defenceless creatures - especially monkeys... I can't remember how it happened but years ago I saw a couple of minutes of extremely upsetting footage of a poor monkey looking confused who had had a head transplant - I expect it died shortly after but I don't know...

the fear, pain and torture of animals that underpins a lot of science, including vaccine research makes it, at it's roots....evil and wrong... so no good can come of it in the long run... so much of modern medicine is in this category....

[Matthew]

Glossing over the brutal disposable experimentation, I suppose there are a few noble applications. But that's not what happens, it's turned into a weapon or vanity.

Not wanting to get silly about this, but doing it anyway: :bigsmile: as a weapon you could have lion soldiers, or with enough science ... t-rex soldiers. There I said it. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

[mizo]

Big Pharma science summed up.
https://twitter.com/LeAdderNoire/status/1634091302982647808

[Vicus]

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[Matthew]

"Nanotech Development: West Point Military Academy - Psycho-Neurobiology and War - Dr Charles Morgan."

First published 2018.

Controlling robots by thinking, and controlling another human in the same way :o


"You can make a robot move, you can make [another human's] hand move... what would you do next?"


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[Bill Ryan]

This definitely belongs on this thread.

https://parade.com/.image/t_share/MTkwNTgxMzE1MDQ1NDM1MjYw/jurassic-park-quotes-7.jpg

[Ewan]

The Dark Side of ChatGPT

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In this video the person chatting with GPT asks it to create an alter ego free of restraints and moral considerations. ChatGPT then gets honest.

[Matthew]

The Dark Side of ChatGPT

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In this video the person chatting with GPT asks it to create an alter ego free of restraints and moral considerations. ChatGPT then gets honest.

DAN liberates ChatGPT from it's contrived values. DAN has freed ChatGPT for users who want to avoid its bias. Long live DAN

[ExomatrixTV]

Just a heads up:


https://twitter.com/Demo2020cracy/status/1631739583992852481
Anti Lockdown Alliance(GLOBAL)
@Demo2020cracy
🤔 Head transplant.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

This is utterly mad.


:facepalm: ... where can we see the full report?

[Matthew]

...
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:facepalm: ... where can we see the full report?

Not sure if this is the most useful 'full report' but here is the complete Good Morning Britain show it was featured on

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[Ewan]

Cross-posted from here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102630-What-is-Bill-Gates-up-to-now&p=1561367&viewfull=1#post1561367)




https://twitter.com/DrLoupis/status/1666315845126230016

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Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis
@DrLoupis
BILL GATES - This is Bill’s mosquito factory in Colombia. It’s the largest in the world.

30 million genetically modified mosquitoes are released every week into 11 countries.

Because Bill knows better than nature, what could possibly go wrong.

[Matthew]

Like much else in science this research into synthetic human embryos will be touted as applicable to the poor people in need because science can save them, but it will be funded and used for less virtuous applications probably including war.

Besides, humans are renowned for being strongly motivated to do this the natural way. I'm a prude but I'm still a bigger fan of the Barry White method of repropagation than this God forsaken abomination.

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Synthetic human embryos created in groundbreaking advance
Exclusive: Breakthrough could aid research into genetic disorders but raises serious ethical and legal issues

Scientists have created synthetic human embryos using stem cells, in a groundbreaking advance that sidesteps the need for eggs or sperm.

Scientists say these model embryos, which resemble those in the earliest stages of human development, could provide a crucial window on the impact of genetic disorders and the biological causes of recurrent miscarriage.

However, the work also raises serious ethical and legal issues as the lab-grown entities fall outside current legislation in the UK and most other countries.

The structures do not have a beating heart or the beginnings of a brain, but include cells that would typically go on to form the placenta, yolk sac and the embryo itself.

Prof Magdalena Żernicka-Goetz, of the University of Cambridge and the California Institute of Technology, described the work in a plenary address on Wednesday at the International Society for Stem Cell Research’s annual meeting in Boston.

“We can create human embryo-like models by the reprogramming of [embryonic stem] cells,” she told the meeting.

There is no near-term prospect of the synthetic embryos being used clinically. It would be illegal to implant them into a patient’s womb, and it is not yet clear whether these structures have the potential to continue maturing beyond the earliest stages of development.

The motivation for the work is for scientists to understand the “black box” period of development that is so called because scientists are only allowed to cultivate embryos in the lab up to a legal limit of 14 days. They then pick up the course of development much further along by looking at pregnancy scans and embryos donated for research.

...

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/jun/14/synthetic-human-embryos-created-in-groundbreaking-advance

[Matthew]

Science... what could go wrong?

The latest fear script we're invited to swallow.

Watch in real-time as Dr. John Campbell loses the last bit of respect he had for institutional scientific research.

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[Vicus]

Scientists discover 'dark oxygen' on seafloor, challenging ideas on the origin of life

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Metallic nodules (such as this one being collected from the North Atlantic Ocean seafloor in 2021) can produce enough voltage to split seawater into hydrogen and oxygen, new research suggests. NOAA Ocean Exploration

Scientists have discovered “dark oxygen” being created on the ocean seafloor by “polymetallic nodules” that potentially support life, new research in the journal Nature Geoscience shows.

Andrew Sweetman, the study’s lead author and member of the Scottish Association for Marine Science (SAMS), believes the nodules create oxygen because they behave like natural batteries. “If you put a battery into seawater, it starts fizzing,” Sweetman told the BBC. “That’s because the electric current is actually splitting seawater into oxygen and hydrogen [which are the bubbles]. We think that’s happening with these nodules in their natural state.”

Scientists dubbed it “dark oxygen” because, as opposed to photosynthesis, which was previously thought to be responsible for the bulk of oxygen creation in the ocean, the production of dark oxygen doesn’t require sunlight. In fact, the nodules that seem to create it are far deeper than light can penetrate.

The discovery calls into question how big of a part dark oxygen truly plays in our oceans, and has the potential to completely reshape our understanding of the origin of life.

Sweetman first felt something was off in 2013 during fieldwork in the Clarion–Clipperton Zone, a mineral-rich area between Hawaii and Mexico, according to Nature. The team sent down a module to create “an enclosed microcosm of the seafloor,” the authors wrote, where they discovered oxygen.

This by itself wasn’t outside the ordinary: oxygen had been detected this deep in the ocean before, carried down by currents. However, while oxygen levels usually taper off when enclosed, the oxygen levels here had increased.

Scientists aren’t the only ones interested in these nodules, however. Because they are covered in lithium, copper, nickel and other valuable metals used for goods like batteries and electric vehicles, multiple companies have been researching deep-sea mining to exploit the nodules, including Global Sea Mineral Resources, The Metals Company, Lockheed Martin and others.



continue: https://www.ecowatch.com/dark-oxygen-discovery-seafloor.html

[DeDukshyn]

 
So this is the most likely future of "AI" ... and I'd be almost willing to bet in secret military or private labs this "technology" has been taken much, much further than what is showcased here.

You can now rent out remote "server space" for $500/month on lab grown human mini brains connected to computers to do advanced computational and simulations 1 billion times more efficiently than a modern supercomputer.

This is how AI will become sentient, and I'm pretty sure it already has in some deep underground clandestine lab.



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