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TargeT
7th January 2021, 05:02
15 min left... I have heard no electoral Colleges vote certified yet..............

I'm pretty sure this is important(?).

4 min left,... they won't make it... it will be JAN 7 according to EST time... this is STILL a movie... like cutting it with in min.

BAMN!

Georgia objected to Michigan, but was not signed by a senator....

it's 12:01 est as of now.... it is JAN 7th.... I think that matters....

hopefully there will be more objections.... but I'm not sure it matters? it's no longer the 6th of JAN....?

T Smith
7th January 2021, 05:27
You really don't get it do you? The election result is only a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.

I can agree with corruption going rampant in the government, that has always been the case and is nothing new.

The thing I don't "get" is why Trump is seen as the savior of all things corrupt, when he's hardly been an example of an upstanding, law-abiding citizen himself.

Savior is the wrong word. Only the people themselves can be the savior of all things corrupt.

However, Trump is viewed as a hero, as he is--and has been--the only one courageous enough to fight the corruption. For that he has been mocked, ridiculed, and persecuted by every corrupt institution threatened by his resolve. This is something no other elected official has ever done. That alone is enough to elevate even the most tarnished of men.

alh02
7th January 2021, 05:45
POTUS aboard AF1 headed for military command center in Texas.

Trump set the trap, the DS took the bait, and now there's no escape!

This is just the beginning...

https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1347033944512872453

alh02
7th January 2021, 06:03
Interesting affidavit filed earlier today in Italy...

https://twitter.com/JovanHPulitzer/status/1346999090169700356

Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 07:11
https://www.hangthecensors.com/486803.html

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-06-wisconsin-decertifying-election-results.html

Is Wisconsin on the verge of decertifying its election results?
Wednesday, January 06, 2021 by: Ethan Huff

(Natural News) The Wisconsin legislature has introduced a proposal to officially decertify the state’s election results, citing fraud and misconduct, and declare President Donald Trump the rightful winner.
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Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 07:19
Rudy Drops Bombshell! (Video)
Posted on January 6, 2021 by State of the Nation

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=45951

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Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 07:31
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=151458770110044&set=a.100175785238343&type=3

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Ps nothing to do with me... ;)


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greybeard
7th January 2021, 07:49
Its all very well having all the evidence of Massive Fraud but it has to be seen in a court of law to be validated.
So far this has not happened.
The challenge for the Trump team is to get this to happen.
If the military route is taken and swamp rats arrested then the media will miss inform and make it look like Trump did an overthrow of the constitution just to stay in power.
Military courts may not be trusted.

The great majority seem to be ignorant of what is really at stake here.
NWO, one world unelected Government, Reset and all that goes with that.
Population reduction -- roll up your sleeves -- not to work but to get regular inoculations.

For all that I am sure that good will triumph.
Chris

Deneon
7th January 2021, 09:03
The great majority seem to be ignorant of what is really at stake here.
NWO, one world unelected Government, Reset and all that goes with that.
Chris

That has been at stake for 100s of years. A Trump win is NOT going to fix everything and make that all go away. Just the same as a Biden win will not ensure a NWO and a one world government. In the grand scheme of things, whoever wins the presidency is such a small part in those globalist plans, that it becomes meaningless. Trump has had 4 years and hasn't fixed it yet, but somehow the next 4 years he will save the world? Come on...

With this in mind, I will nnot support Trump, based on what he's showing me every day about the content of his character.

greybeard
7th January 2021, 09:20
The great majority seem to be ignorant of what is really at stake here.
NWO, one world unelected Government, Reset and all that goes with that.
Chris

That has been at stake for 100s of years. A Trump win is NOT going to fix everything and make that all go away. Just the same as a Biden win will not ensure a NWO and a one world government. In the grand scheme of things, whoever wins the presidency is such a small part in those globalist plans, that it becomes meaningless. Trump has had 4 years and hasn't fixed it yet, but somehow the next 4 years he will save the world? Come on...

With this in mind, I will nnot support Trump, based on what he's showing me every day about the content of his character.

I respect your free choice
Chris

Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 09:29
Lin Wood (@LLinWood) Tweeted:
Indisputable photographic evidence that antifa violently broke into Congress today to inflict harm & do damage. NOT @realDonaldTrump supporters.

Do not be fooled. Trump supporters are peaceful. It was antifa that created the violence in our cities over the past several months. https://t.co/eGJmJwJvNq https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1346934887098458113?s=20

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OmeyocaN777
7th January 2021, 11:44
Disclose.tv
@disclosetv

Trump added: "While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it's only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!"

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1347109275164954624
1347109275164954624

Yesterday was a very sad day for the world...
They took advantage of the weak link in our circle (Pence)...and they used our frustration against us...
I'm proud of Trump...he is a great fighter and he will always be my President!
Stay strong.

My heart goes to the people that lost their lives and to their families...

BoR
7th January 2021, 12:03
I have a feeling, call it a hunch, that we will hear from the state of Texas these days. This only seems to be the beginning of something huge. And it is not over. America will not proceed as if nothing happened. That is inconceivable at this point.

Merkaba360
7th January 2021, 12:13
I have a feeling, call it a hunch, that we will hear from the state of Texas these days. This only seems to be the beginning of something huge. And it is not over. America will not proceed as if nothing happened. That is inconceivable at this point.

I was thinking the same thing. Texas does things different as they say lol. What if the plan is to break off from the union and appoint trump the president of Texas +surrounding states that align with it. I wonder if thats possible. Let the liberals have their own country, see how great it is then lol. Just dont know if a portion of USA could fend off the globalists. I know which union I would live in.

But, yea it would be better if Lin Wood is correct. Do we know Trump flew to Texas last night or not?

In my view, it seems inconceivable that this is all Trump had for fireworks. If so, absolutely terrible plan. Unless he was just a part of the theatre.

OmeyocaN777
7th January 2021, 13:16
(There is still hope, this "battle" is not over yet but the USA must stay united, the division is not the answer)

7th January Update Current News

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Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 15:05
Says it all.

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Ron Mauer Sr
7th January 2021, 15:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHdt2qRLj8

7th January Update Current News from Simon Parkes.

Simon talks about a super secure communications satellite being used to provide the Vatican with voting information. The implication is that the Vatican could manipulate the voting. I do not yet see how. Of course Simon may not have accurate information.

Another implication is that the military card may yet be used to remove those accused of treason.

It may not be over yet.

pueblo
7th January 2021, 16:11
If that's not a Masonic handshake I don't know what is, with the thumb extending and pressing over to the back of the other person's hand.

What is the official explanation for the coin/s that are handed over? Notice the nudge from Pelosi?

Weird.

https://twitter.com/Mrtdogg/status/1347175361914744832?s=20

https://twitter.com/11AngelAura11/status/1347114414231715840?s=20

https://twitter.com/gurigiri3782/status/1347195548244209664?s=20

OmeyocaN777
7th January 2021, 16:14
Lin Wood Addresses The Nation... 'WE WILL STILL WIN 4 MORE YEARS"!!!

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https://parler.com/profile/linwood

Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 19:22
Something tells me it’s not over until the fat lady sings...I pray and sincerely hope so....

UK mainstream all over Trump ridiculing and slating him for the outcome of yesterday and calling for his immediate removal....goes on and on and on, I had to switch channels.

The climax is fast approaching...
-NW

Trump did NOT concede… Lin Wood explains “many traitors” to be arrested shortly… final list of confirmed traitors acquired last night during congressional vote
Mike Adams | Natural News
Jan 7, 2021

[snip]

Following yesterday’s false flag “storming” of the Capitol Building — staged by left-wing Antifa / BLM instigators who dressed up as MAGA supporters — we witnessed the final act of betrayal against our constitutional republic as members of Congress flipped against truth and voted to accept the fraudulent Biden electors, making Joe Biden the “president-elect.”

The false flag storming of the Capitol Building is being used by the media and members of Congress to whitewash all the overwhelming evidence of election fraud in the general election. Suddenly in the media narrative, even the possibility of vote fraud by the Biden camp no longer matters because some people “stormed” the Capitol Building and that was scary.

Patrick Byrne has retweeted this video [TAKEN DOWN? - NW] revealing Capitol Police openly directing Antifa / BLM “actors” (dressed as MAGA patriots) to invade certain sections of the Capitol Building. Byrne calls it, “The moment we realized that this is a staged psyop…”

…Trump did NOT concede, and the “transition of power” doesn’t necessarily mean a transition to Biden

Under the cover of night, the treasonous US Congress voted to install CCP puppet Joe Biden into the White House, confirming his fraudulent slate of electors as accepted. A few hours later, Trump issued a statement about a “transition of power.” Here it is:

Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it’s only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!

This statement is being widely interpreted by the media to be a concession statement from the president. However, it is no such thing.

Trump did not concede at all. He did not congratulate Joe Biden and he did not say he would leave the White House.

Trump did NOT concede… Lin Wood explains “many traitors” to be arrested shortly… final list of confirmed traitors acquired last night during congressional vote
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Image: Trump did NOT concede… Lin Wood explains “many traitors” to be arrested shortly… final list of confirmed traitors acquired last night during congressional vote

(Natural News) Following yesterday’s false flag “storming” of the Capitol Building — staged by left-wing Antifa / BLM instigators who dressed up as MAGA supporters — we witnessed the final act of betrayal against our constitutional republic as members of Congress flipped against truth and voted to accept the fraudulent Biden electors, making Joe Biden the “president-elect.”

The false flag storming of the Capitol Building is being used by the media and members of Congress to whitewash all the overwhelming evidence of election fraud in the general election. Suddenly in the media narrative, even the possibility of vote fraud by the Biden camp no longer matters because some people “stormed” the Capitol Building and that was scary.

Patrick Byrne has retweeted this video revealing Capitol Police openly directing Antifa / BLM “actors” (dressed as MAGA patriots) to invade certain sections of the Capitol Building. Byrne calls it, “The moment we realized that this is a staged psyop…”

…Trump did NOT concede, and the “transition of power” doesn’t necessarily mean a transition to Biden

Under the cover of night, the treasonous US Congress voted to install CCP puppet Joe Biden into the White House, confirming his fraudulent slate of electors as accepted. A few hours later, Trump issued a statement about a “transition of power.” Here it is:

Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it’s only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!

This statement is being widely interpreted by the media to be a concession statement from the president. However, it is no such thing.

Trump did not concede at all. He did not congratulate Joe Biden and he did not say he would leave the White House.

When he says, “the end of the greatest first term,” that makes perfect sense, since Trump’s second term would begin on January 20th. So his first term is ending.

More importantly, Trump did not specify what the “orderly transition” means. He didn’t say there would be a transition to Biden being installed as president. He might be referring to the transition of America away from the tyranny of the deep state and the return of power to the People.

Full read here

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-07-trump-did-not-concede-lin-wood-traitors-to-be-arrested.html

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Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 20:59
SOMETHING BIG IS Happening ""

https://twitter.com/NobodymrRobert/status/1346104584557608961

Atlanta Airport


https://twitter.com/NobodymrRobert/status/1346104584557608961?s=20

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Savannah
7th January 2021, 21:30
For those of us on censored work computers who can't open Twitter...What's happening????????

Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 21:35
For those of us on censored work computers who can't open Twitter...What's happening????????

Atlanta airport looks like lots of military personnel either entering or leaving, can’t make it out...

Sorry thats all I can see, I know how frustrating it is with censored links etc.

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Deborah (ahamkara)
7th January 2021, 21:38
SOMETHING BIG IS Happening ""

https://twitter.com/NobodymrRobert/status/1346104584557608961



https://twitter.com/NobodymrRobert/status/1346104584557608961?s=20

Viking

This is old footage.

Satori
7th January 2021, 21:49
SOMETHING BIG IS Happening ""

https://twitter.com/NobodymrRobert/status/1346104584557608961



https://twitter.com/NobodymrRobert/status/1346104584557608961?s=20

Viking

This is old footage.

Also, when “something big” is happening from a military standpoint, they don’t use private airports. The mission is launched from military bases and installations.

Eric J (Viking)
7th January 2021, 21:50
Really...how do we know it’s old footage Deborah...

If so sorry folks...

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Ascension
7th January 2021, 21:55
Really...how do we know it’s old footage Deborah...

If so sorry folks...

Viking

The footage is dated January 4th.

Ron Mauer Sr
7th January 2021, 23:41
Were Vatican secure communication satellites used to alter the voting on election day?


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Bill Ryan
8th January 2021, 00:02
Were Vatican secure communication satellites used to alter the voting on election day?

Ron asked me if I could possibly enhance the image somewhat. This might be a little easier to read:

https://projectavalon.net/Italian_affadavit.gif

Satori
8th January 2021, 00:12
Were Vatican secure communication satellites used to alter the voting on election day?

Ron asked me if I could possibly enhance the image somewhat. This might be a little easier to read:

https://projectavalon.net/Italian_affadavit.gif

Congress and the other criminals don’t care.

alh02
8th January 2021, 01:15
Were Vatican secure communication satellites used to alter the voting on election day?

Ron asked me if I could possibly enhance the image somewhat. This might be a little easier to read:

https://projectavalon.net/Italian_affadavit.gif

Congress and the other criminals don’t care.

Yes they do.
We just need to remain patient.
The plan is unfolding and everything will be revealed soon.

Satori
8th January 2021, 02:18
Were Vatican secure communication satellites used to alter the voting on election day?

Ron asked me if I could possibly enhance the image somewhat. This might be a little easier to read:

https://projectavalon.net/Italian_affadavit.gif

Congress and the other criminals don’t care.

Yes they do.
We just need to remain patient.
The plan is unfolding and everything will be revealed soon.

You don’t understand my post.

alh02
8th January 2021, 02:59
Were Vatican secure communication satellites used to alter the voting on election day?

Ron asked me if I could possibly enhance the image somewhat. This might be a little easier to read:

https://projectavalon.net/Italian_affadavit.gif

Congress and the other criminals don’t care.

Yes they do.
We just need to remain patient.
The plan is unfolding and everything will be revealed soon.

You don’t understand my post.

Sure I do, you're suggesting they don't care because they believe they have full control of the situation and all evidence brought against them will simply get buried and ignored by the system just like it always has in the past.

But unfortunately for them, it's not going to play out that way this time around.

The people you're referring to (who up until now thought themselves to be untouchable) are just now beginning understand and appreciate that fact.

The next few days are going to be fun, enjoy the show.

apokalypse
8th January 2021, 03:18
wrong post

alh02
8th January 2021, 06:57
Lin Wood dropping TRUTH BOMBS on Parler at the moment.

Mike Pence and Hunter Biden should be VERY worried about the emails and images he has posted thus far.

I wonder who's next up on the chopping block. Lots more to come I think.

Here are a couple of snippets. I'm not game to re-post any of the other content, but I think you can probably all guess where things are headed... :behindsofa:

<POST UPDATE>

Sorry but I decided to remove those 'snippets'. If you saw them you saw them. If not they are still on Parler, for now.

Eric J (Viking)
8th January 2021, 07:20
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Llin-Wood-Ending.jpg

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Eric J (Viking)
8th January 2021, 07:23
Trump Flew to Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene, Texas Right After He Was Blocked From Twitter: Get Ready for the Blackout!

By Global Agenda

The new American Revolution 2.0 is upon America. That was the WORST staged event at the US Capitol that I have ever seen. Everyone of those ACTORS that ended up in the Capitol Building were paid actors. There was ZERO Police Presence at the Capitol Building and I am glad that Trump got out of Washington. We are watching the Coup come to an end and it was interesting to see that the MSM are calling it a coup and it really is a Coup. A coup against Trump. Anyway Trump is now at an Elite Military Communications Base in Abilene, Texas where he is watching his Vice President finish off his Presidency as he sits in the Bird Seat. Get ready for some serious announcements. America is on the Brink. Treason is the End Game.

Link with short video...

https://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2021/01/trump-flew-off-to-dyess-air-force-base-in-abilene-texas-right-after-he-was-blocked-from-twitter-get-ready-for-the-blackout-2649556.html

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OmeyocaN777
8th January 2021, 09:43
Pence Receives Strange Coin After Certifying The Fraudulent Election

https://welovetrump.com/2021/01/07/pence-receives-strange-coin-after-certifying-the-fraudulent-election/

Eric J (Viking)
8th January 2021, 11:38
Good read, putting Nesara aside if you believe or not, some interesting tid bits...

Compilation of Real News - Current Situation & Intel

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of Fri. 8 Jan. 2021

Compiled Fri. 8 Jan. 2021 by Judy Byington (snip)

On Thurs. 7 Jan. At the end of today’s address, Trump says, “Our journey has just begun.” https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347334804052844550

Q: The Plan To Save the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUH2eiYjQxM

Thurs. 7 Jan. Trump Attorney Lin Wood Tweet: “Many traitors” to be arrested shortly… final list of confirmed traitors acquired last night during congressional vote” and “Now It Is a Completed Crime…Many Traitors Will Be Arrested and Jailed Over Next Several Days” https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-07-trump-did-not-concede-lin-wood-traitors-to-be-arrested.html

"Be Of Good Cheer" By Coach Jerry

Life experience has taught us it is often "darkest before the dawn"... That things are not always as they seem... that geopolitical cleansing will be a painful process. The table has now been set. Congressional certification has been documented. Be encouraged people. There will be no escaping the retribution to come. If there was ever a time to recall the following Q expressions and predictions, that time is now!

• Buckle Up!

• It will be Biblical!

• Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing!

The following words of comfort were spoken over 2,000 years ago. They are certainly applicable today during this time of apparent chaos and defeat. "These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world."

Thank you POTUS Thank you FLOTUS Thank you Q WWG1WGA God wins! Coach Jerry

Judy Note: Last night Trump was working out of the National Defense Command Center in Abilene Texas. Today he called up the National Guard and flew to Camp David. Mass Arrests were about to happen. Be prepared for a Blackout. We were already in a Period of Darkness on Wed. 6 Jan. when President Trump announced, “The Storm is Upon Us.”

The morning of 7 Jan. 2021 the US Congress certified Joe Biden as the next US President. But, there was a problem. Certain members of Congress led by the Democrats and former President arack [O]bama, had conspired with foreign enemies to conduct a fraudulent 2020 Election and thereby had committed treason.

And, the Election was still not over. States could still de-certify their votes as evidence of Voter Fraud emerged, which included evidence pertinent to national security.

Trump may have no choice but to go to Martial Law. Google Maps, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and other Social Media were heavily censoring, Shadow Banning and deleting accounts of the good guys. Twitter and Facebook have taken down President Trump, Lin Wood and others who don’t conform to their leftist agenda.

Gold Standard:

On Thurs. 31 Dec. at the last minute of 2020, POTUS's Gold-backed Currency Advocate Judy Shelton was confirmed to the Federal Reserve Board by the Senate Banking Committee.

The next day of Fri. 1 Jan. 2021 the Gold Standard began ushering in a new financial system across the globe. Several countries have already announced their currencies would be on the gold/asset-backed standard.

According to Shelton over this past weekend the paperwork of 209 countries for the GCR were completed.

Also over this past weekend NESARA/ GESARA debt forgiveness programs were being implemented globally, including Global Collateral Account payouts to paymaster accounts and bond holders receiving money-of-accounts as of Tues. 5 Jan. – and now could see funds that would be accessible when Tier 4B started.

Judy Note: Be aware that Google Maps, Twitter, Facebook and other social media were censoring, Shadow Banning and deleting the good guys. Twitter and Facebook have taken down President Trump, Lin Wood and other people’s accounts that don’t conform to the leftist agenda. It is therefore difficult to give you links to some of the below information.

A. Thurs. 7 Jan. Lin Wood Tweet (after which his account was taken down).

Time for rest. I had to stay up to watch the conclusion of the greatest attempted theft in history.

Now it is a completed crime.

Many traitors will be arrested and jailed over the next several days.

President Trump will serve four more years.

B. Thurs. 7 Jan. 2021 Steele, Parkes, Ward Talk Trump and What’s to Come: Robert David Steele, Simon Parkes With Charlie Ward Speak Trump, UK, What's To Come & More Must Watch!

1. The Wed. 6 Jan. protest at the Capitol was a set trap. The corruption was financed by [S]oros, [O]bama, [C]linton foundation but came from the Vatican.

2. When they stormed Capitol Hill Trump supporters took Pelosi’s laptops which had a boatload of evidence. About a dozen laptops were given to Trump.

3. The United Kingdom was behind all this.

4. The Italian government satellites were run by the Vatican and moved information across the globe.

5. Trump is at the command post in Texas where they were deciding the next step.

6. If the Alliance doesn’t betray Trump there will be martial law and arrests and Trump will be in for another four years.

7. Trump has the Insurrection Act, the Military, and biological warfare.

8. The crimes against humanity of pedo*philia will come out before Jan. 20.

C. Thurs. 7 Jan. Charlie Ward Weekly Update: https://drcharlieward.com/dr-charlies-live-weekly-update-webinar-1-6-2021/

D. Thurs. 7 Jan. 2021 The Big Call, Bruce: Thebigcall.net 712-770-4016 pin123456#

1. Some of the larger bond holders were supposed to be paid overnight tonight and would have access to those funds tomorrow morning Fri. 8 Jan.

2. Tier 4B should have notification on Sat. 9 Jan. and start on Sat, or we could get pushed to early next week.

3. Redemption Center people went to work today Thurs. 7 Jan.

E. Military Intel Lays Out Plan to Take Over US: https://youtu.be/g8-tCrgiIC8

1. This election was a military operation to bring down the New World Order.

2. There was a plan put in place to bring down this Rothschild – Federal Reserve- Banking industry that was started in 1871. This country has been ruled by a foreign power for a very long time.

3. Back in the 60s when they took out Kennedy about 200 generals got together and put together The Plan.

4. In the last 20 years Patriots and 22 Alliance powers across the world have gathered to

5. They got control of the NSA and

6. In 1950 Military Intelligence intercepted a 16 year plan to take down the US – 8 years of Obama and 8 years of [H]illary [C]linton.

7. While she was over the State Department they skimmed uranium off the stockpile – Iran, Syria

8. They were going to launch a nuclear against the US and blame it on Russia.

9. The Alliance chose Trump to save the country, save the world.

10. Every war has been financed by this banking empire.

11. Oct. 28 2017 was the first time the Military dropped some intelligence. They came out fast for five days, and then went into months and years. This became the greatest military intelligence operation in history to educate the people. It’s called Q.

12. Sessions was a patriot who assigned John Huber to convene grand juries.

13. They went after General Mike Flynn because he knew where all the bodies were buried.

14. 300 federal judges have been replaced by Trump.

15. 190,000 plus indictments have been filed – most involve the ra*pe, tor*ture and mur*der of chi*ldren.

16. The Vatican was the center of it all.

17. $200 million was used to upgrade GITMO.

18. Regular planes were going in and out of GITMO for military tribunals.

19. Q: Never interfere with an enemy while they are burning themselves to the ground.

20. The Cabal worship Sat*an and were everywhere.

F. Trump Flew to Texas After He was Banned From Twitter. Get Ready for a Blackout: http://www.paulstramer.net/2021/01/trump-flew-on-night76-to-texas-after-he.html GlobalAgenda@BitChute

The new American Revolution 2.0 is upon America. That was the WORST staged event at the US Capitol that I have ever seen. Everyone of those ACTORS that ended up in the Capitol Building were paid actors. There was ZERO Police Presence at the Capitol Building and I am glad that Trump got out of Washington. We are watching the Coup come to an end and it was interesting to see that the MSM are calling it a coup and it really is a Coup. A coup against Trump. Anyway Trump is now at an Elite Military Communications Base in Abilene, Texas where he is watching his Vice President finish off his Presidency as he sits in the Bird Seat. Get ready for some serious announcements. America is on the Brink. Treason is the End Game.

In the times of Internet Censorship here are my Social Media Accounts that I use for spreading the Real Uncensored Truth (hopefully). BTW... My Twitter and two YouTube channels are heavily censored and shadow banned. Mark @GlobalAgenda

G. Italian US Embassy Conspires to Take Out Trump: http://www.paulstramer.net/2021/01/us-embassy-in-italy-conspires-to-take.html

H. Thurs. 7 Jan. Press Release: Votes Switched throughout U.S. Presidential Race – Institute for Good Governance http://www.paulstramer.net/2021/01/press-release-votes-switched-throughout.html https://nationsinaction.org/2021/01/press-release-voter-fraud/

Senior IT Expert at Global Defense Contractor Testifies in Italian Federal Court. He and Others Switched Votes throughout America in the U.S. Presidential Race

Rome, Italy (January 5, 2021) – An employee of the 8th largest global defense contractor, Leonardo SpA, provided a shocking deposition detailing his role in the most elaborate criminal act affecting a US election. Corroborating the DNI Ratcliff’s report of international intrusion, Arturo D’elio outlined the scheme that proved successful in using Leonardo computer systems and military satellites located in Pescara, Italy. Recent reports of a hack at Leonardo now appear to have been an orchestrated cover to mitigate blowback on the corporation which is partially owned by the Italian government.

Nations In Action, a government transparency organization, partnered with the Institute of Good Governance to thoroughly investigate and research the election irregularities which yielded the long awaited proof that a flawless plot to take down America was executed with extraordinary resources and global involvement. Americans and elected officials now have proof that the election was indeed stolen.

I. Wed. 6 Jan. Natural News Situation Update: America's Day of Reckoning arrives... Trump must now play his hand.

With America's day of reckoning having now arrived, President Trump must now play his full hand to defend the republic against domestic and foreign enemies. Later today, we anticipate VP Mike Pence will betray America, although there is a chance that Sen. Grassley might step in and help save the nation by rejecting the fraudulent electoral votes and sending them back to the states for adjudication.

We cover breaking bombshell news that Barack Obama funded a vote rigging scheme involving the Italian government (and most likely the Vatican as well).

Possible outcome scenarios for today's decisions in Congress. We believe VP Pence will betray the nation and the GOP will commit its final political suicide by embracing the obviously fraudulent, illegal Biden slate of electoral votes.

One possible scenario sees Sen. Grassley presenting new national security evidence that we've never seen before, then rejecting the electoral results based on this new evidence.

Why Trump's declassification efforts may see previously classified documents funneled through non-government individuals in order to achieve broad, efficient distribution of the information.

What's remaining for Trump and America after the total betrayal of the GOP, Pence, SCOTUS and others.

Apple Maps is blocking directions to Washington D.C. as yet another example of Big Tech interfering with honest democracy.

Jeffrey Prather warns the [d]eep state may attempt to bomb churches in D.C.

Mitt Romney screamed at by airplane passengers as they all head to D.C. (called him a traitor over and over).

Pennsylvania lawmakers demand Pence reject the fraudulent electoral votes and give them more time to investigate election irregularities.

Trump tweets the VP has the power to reject electoral votes, while the NYT runs a propaganda article claiming Pence said he has no such power. That NYT story was later revealed to be fake news.

Wisconsin lawmakers move to de-certify iden electoral votes. Other states likely to follow.

Why the election is not over today, even if iden is confirmed as president-elect. States can still de-certify their votes as new evidence emerges, which can include national security evidence.

Trump considering total declassification and mass firings of top traitors in the administration.

Lt Gen. Tom McInerney warns that if Pence doesn't act, Trump must declare military authority to save the nation.

Georgia election being stolen through the same fraud that was used in the general election. Rigged ballots, blocking GOP observers, rigged Dominion machines and more.

Those who commit election fraud face five years in federal prison.

Dominion voting machines found to have "Made in China" labels on their boxes, proving they are manufactured in China.

President Xi Jinping orders military to be "ready to fight at any second without fear of death."

A nurse dies suddenly after receiving the coronavirus vaccine.

What's next: Trump's military authority option and the "We the People" option to preserve the nation and stop the steal.

J. Trump Attorney Lin Wood Fireside Chat #4: https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2021/01/lin-wood-speaks-out-shaun-attwood-3738949.html 918-851-6920 - text to receive link for show notes

Sidney Powell had completed a 270 page legal report on 2020 Election fraud.

The Canadian owned Dominion hardware voting machines used in most states shared office space with [G]eorge [S]oros in Toronto Canada

Secoya/Smartmatic software used in Dominion machines to switch votes was created by the CIA and came out of Communist Venezuela.

US votes in the 2020 Election were sent to a CIA office in Frankfurt Germany to be switched and counted.

The Chinese invested $400 million in Dominion just before the 2020 Election and $200 million a year before.

The Dominion system was used around the world to buy elections.

The Chinese have bought 31 million acres of American land.

Conspiring with foreign nations to steal an election has a penalty of death by firing squad.

There was no law and order in Georgia and no one enforcing voting laws.

On Dec. 31 Mike Pence resigned as VP and should be arrested for leading the opposition to lawsuits against election fraud. He got one of those messages at George Bush’s funeral. The truth will soon come out about Mike Pence.

If a fraudulent election was certified that would be your last election in America. Those elected would never again let you decide your leaders.

Jeffrey Epstein is alive. Three reliable sources say that is true. Wood has documentary, air flight travel, financial transactions in his account.

Epstein has Video tape on pedo*philia.

ill [G]ates’ C19 tests are falsely calibrated, vaccines filled with RNA altering ingredients, diagnosis was bogus – people have common colds, common flue.

ill [G]ates and Jeffrey [E]pstein are friends.

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows is blocking cures for C19. He is knee deep in the Cabal. He is in the back pocket of big Pharma. He blocks access to the president.

Trump is aware of the fraud in the 2020 Election and caught them red-handed. They have committed treason by cooperating with a foreign enemy to take over the country, to become a Communist state. Those who certify a fraudulent election were committing treason.

Trump will drain the swamp. Those who are not with Trump do not love America.

Trump won the election by over 80% vote.

With Lincoln they moved the Inauguration back so that the right president could be sworn in.

K. Thurs. 7 Jan. Protestor heard Antifa Plan, saw them break window: https://parler.com/post/848c98170f924a93a0ffaf62fa04cf2f

L. Thurs. 7 Jan. Reader Post By Sabre

Yesterday the same group of ANTIFA instigators (not Trump supporters) that have been rioting around the nation the past 2 months, freely walked into the Capital building. This was unopposed and allowed with capital police holding the doors open for them, `a set up’. They ended up being arrested… Finally.

After Congress reconvened, they resumed counting the electoral votes, ultimately accepting and certifying them in favor of iden, the crime is now complete. Just like watching shoplifters, security has to allow the theft and let them leave the store completing the crime. The certifying of the electoral votes completes the crime for Congress. What do I mean? What’s the crime?

Trump knew the outcome in advance (lookin glass) as soon as the mail in ballot scam started last spring. The entire election process has been a sting operation ever since. Here’s the short version:

Besides the mail-in ballot and counting frauds nationwide. On Nov 2 the bankruptcy of the U.S. was complete. You can’t elect a President to a bankrupt corporation. With Pence’s certification, he and everyone that voted in favor of it are guilty of treason! They will be arrested for that and other charges over the next 2 weeks. These arrests will include everyone involved down to media, complicit corporations, state ballot counters, those in foreign countries that were involved in printing fake ballots and voting machine programmers/providers. The list goes on.

An increase of people resigning for health reasons or retiring, will actually be a cover for being arrested for these crimes. Claims of leg injuries with people wearing black walking medical boots will actually be them hiding ankle bracelets. (The same boot that iden, Hillary and McCain wore.) A lot of these will be for crimes against humanity including what I listed above. Actual crimes will be changed to something more easily palatable for the public.

Coming arrests have always been known about by Congress (both parties included). Attempting to avoid arrests has been the reason for all the fabricated lies the past 4 years. They’ve had to get Trump out of office to save their skin. Literally!

If there was nothing for Democrats to worry about, they would happily wait 2 weeks and transition to iden. No big deal. But that won’t happen. Democrats will want Trump out ASAP by any means possible. In fact they will be screaming for it. What’s at stake is biblical and they want to avoid it.

The next 2 weeks could see the above plus lockdowns, FISA, declass, Russia collusion hoax exposed, Hillary’s emails and more through the presidents Emergency Broadcast System. To me the most interesting will be SSP/Space Force background, biblical realizations, who has actually been in charge over the years and making doubles.

Now for the good part: Once everyone is arrested and almost no one left in Congress, the long awaited NESARA/GESARA can start being implemented. When that happens the military will run government until we have new elections within 120 days of its implementation.

Believe Nothing/Anything's Possible

Sabre

M. NESARA/GESARA

With his November 2, 2020 Executive Order, POTUS put us in NESARA – 120 days after November 2 was March 2 ‘21 for the required new NESARA Elections.

Charlie Ward: Trump stepped down on Nov. 3 and went from president to presidential candidate. With Trump stepping down and once things were settled with iden/[H]arris gone – the Power House would step in (JF Kennedy Jr.).

On Jan. 1 2021 Trump said, “It’s big, it’s all signed and goes into effect Jan. 1.” Evidently he was referring to a return to the gold-backed dollar. https://youtu.be/t6NKAOu_MGI (min. 12:35)

As of that same Jan. 1 2021 there were said to be 209 nations including the US, which were in the process of implementing NESARA/GESARA and debt forgiveness – all having placed their gold/asset-backed currencies at a 1:1 par with each other.

N. Restored Republic Events Schedule: John F. Kennedy Jr. (Juan O’Savin) has repeatedly said that iden would never be president and Trump’s Inauguration would not take place on Jan. 20, but on April 1. The election would be transparent, instantaneous and take place under the new and already tested Quantum Voting System where US citizens could vote using their own computers or phones.

March 30 2021 Restored Republic Elections.

By 1 April 2021 all political criminality would be exposed and prosecuted.

Source:

Judy Byington

https://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2021/01/restored-republic-via-gcr-update-as-of_8.html

Viking

Philippe
8th January 2021, 13:21
DNI Report Delivered to Congress Right After Certification

https://rumble.com/vcj79n-dni-report-delivered-to-congress-right-after-certification.html

RUMBLE :I think the DNI report is why DC is panicking like they are. They just found out that it's provable that they knowingly certified a fraudulent election.

DNI Report on Foreign Election Interference delivered to congress
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1347293667007016961
https://twitter.com/anonpatriotq/status/1347356910832373760

POTUS address about the peaceful transition to his second term
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1347334804052844550

POTUS statement that we are transitioning power to the people
https://twitter.com/MajorPatriot/status/1347328220102864896

Trump 2nd term Q post
https://twitter.com/WeTheInevitable/status/1347350355659657217

ANTIFA organizer right by woman who was allegedly shot at Capitol
https://twitter.com/tom2badcat/status/1347325565578182658
https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status/1347266315879411712

The law is going after the ANTIFA that raided the capitol
https://twitter.com/WeTheInevitable/status/1347347359072735232

The Police were directing the peaceful protesters where they are to go
https://twitter.com/anonpatriotq/status/1347349750597693440

The shooting looks fake in one of the videos (I don't know)
https://twitter.com/Rcfan611/status/1347279798809354242

Officer that allegedly shot the woman placed on leave
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1347275577389162497

US Capitol Police Chief resigns effective 1/16
https://twitter.com/WeTheInevitable/status/1347325252314017795

Theory decode of Red 1-6
https://twitter.com/donaldQlincoln/status/1347321445358174209

Q deltas
https://twitter.com/Jhomes551/status/1347350146451955714

DOJ going after the ANTIFA that perpetrated this violence
https://twitter.com/barnes_law/status/1347326080642920449

Josh Howley's book deal canceled for wrong think
https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1347327743004995585

mountain_jim
8th January 2021, 14:13
https://twitter.com/PatrickByrne/status/1347536183300141058?s=20

1347536183300141058

Gracy
8th January 2021, 14:17
Many traitors will be arrested and jailed over the next several days.
President Trump will serve four more years.

Lin Wood

We've been hearing about these arrests for years now, long before Trump and Q even. So Lin Wood is the latest in promising that this is imminent. The window of opportunity is rapidly closing, will he still have credibility even as a new president is being sworn in on the 20th, and the arrests yet to materialize? Again?




When they stormed Capitol Hill Trump supporters took Pelosi’s laptops which had a boatload of evidence. About a dozen laptops were given to Trump.

Robert David Steele, Simon Parkes With Charlie Ward Speak Trump, UK, What's To Come & More Must Watch!


That was the WORST staged event at the US Capitol that I have ever seen. Everyone of those ACTORS that ended up in the Capitol Building were paid actors.

By Global Agenda

Which is it?

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 14:18
I've been reading a lot of claims about this in the past weeks and have been trying to wrap my head around it. Could someone please explain how exactly the vote was tampered through Dominion voting machines?

Bear with me... here is from what I understand the whole process of casting ballots through voting machines:

-A voter chooses the candidate on a touchscreen

-A ballot is printed by the machine (for a paper trail)

-The voter takes the ballot, checks it and feeds it to the tabulator.



That's all. Could someone please explain at which point in this process do the "vatican quantum sattelites", "servers in Frankfurt", etc come into play?


For what I can think of, there are 3 ways the vote could be frauded:

1. After choosing the candidate on the touchscreen, the machine prints a ballot with the other candidate.

This cannot have happened, as the voters can check the ballot after printing. Even if some forget to do this, there would have been hundreds of thousands of complaints on election day. There is no record of this happening.

2. When the voter feeds the ballot in the tabulator, the machine doesn't count the correct vote, it counts a vote for the opposite candidate. But the actual paper ballot will stay in the box for further audit.

This also has been proven to not have happened, as there were 2 MANUAL recounts of the paper ballots in Georgia that yielded the same results.

3. After the ballot printing and tabulation are done correctly, through hacking or malicious software, the entries in the centralized databases are manipulated and votes are switched from one candidate to the other.

This also has been proven to not have happened, as there were 2 MANUAL recounts of the paper ballots in Georgia that yielded the same results.


If you take the time to think about the process you will realize that all of the dominion voting fraud claims actually contradict each other or are completely incompatible with how the process works.

So all those people that tweet/blog/vlog about this are either:

a) Completely ignorant and haven't taken 5 minutes to examine how the voting process works - but are making grave claims which, if true, would demonstrate the greatest fraud in the last 50 years (but, again, haven't taken 5 minutes to investigate the process)

b) Not intelligent enough to understand how the process I just described works.

c) Well informed about the process and sufficiently intelligent to understand it - but highly malevolent and manipulative in order to gain monetization through clicks/views/donations or political benefits.


Disclaimer: If there is any part of the process that I have misrepresented, or the information that I had was incorrect, please let me know as I might be wrong.
This is just a conclusion that I have reached after documenting from various sources on how electronic voting works in the US

The Moss Trooper
8th January 2021, 14:52
Meet the New Boss......... Same as the Old Boss.

I've kept well away from this thread as I consider myself an ignoramus of all things political in the US of A, but Dear God.......... Another plan!? Has/Did the Q plan pan out? Did this plan pan out, or is this secondary plan of the original plan still part of the same plan??

OR

Is everybody clutching at straws?

I have no bloody idea what is going on, none. One of the best commenters on this thread I've seen is Chris, Greybeard, as he states, "it may be so"...... No definites no certainties, just could be's.

And I think I'm down with that. But surely, surely, if Trump was this master 5d chess player he would have played the game to his strengths whilst still in the game, no? Not at the point where he is being handed his coat, surely.

Savannah
8th January 2021, 15:37
If that's not a Masonic handshake I don't know what is, with the thumb extending and pressing over to the back of the other person's hand.

What is the official explanation for the coin/s that are handed over? Notice the nudge from Pelosi?

Weird.

https://twitter.com/Mrtdogg/status/1347175361914744832?s=20

https://twitter.com/11AngelAura11/status/1347114414231715840?s=20

https://twitter.com/gurigiri3782/status/1347195548244209664?s=20

I worked for DOD, not active duty(GS) but with active duty. It is tradition for the branches to have coins , I was given several. It is given in in thanks or at ceremonies, done just as seen in this video, by putting it in your had while shaking it. The message is what's important here, "court date". They obviously anticipated this and had the coins minted ahead of this event.

TravelerJim
8th January 2021, 15:59
I have a question for everyone.

It seems like Trump has virtually no allies now within the power structure. Some people are calling on him to release secret files as one of his last acts but I doubt anyone in power would listen to him. So where if anywhere are the white hats? Who comes to the forefront to stop the move towards Totalitarianism? What intel agencies might be white hats? Or what part of the military might be?

If in fact there are white hats within the power structure, it seems they have decided to jettison Trump and think their causes would be better served without him.

I am not counting Trump out. They are going after him big time to stop the creation of what would be some sort of shadow government, amoung other reasons. Regardless, to make things turn out ok, there has to be some sort of white hat group. Don't see where they are now.....

greybeard
8th January 2021, 16:39
Have a look
Chris
https://twitter.com/dzjsqy/status/1347219112292876288

and Lets get the Kraken

https://twitter.com/ghostezra/status/1347490049257046017?s=11

BoR
8th January 2021, 17:04
Trump has tweeted he will NOT be going to the inauguration on Jan 20th.

Also that the 75.000.0000 great American Patriots who voted for him, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form....

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It is protocol that all living presidents are present at the inauguration, unless they are sick of course.

And no, he is not saying he is going to die.... (or is planning to be sick that day)

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 17:20
I've been reading a lot of claims about this in the past weeks and have been trying to wrap my head around it. Could someone please explain how exactly the vote was tampered through Dominion voting machines?

Bear with me... here is from what I understand the whole process of casting ballots through voting machines:

-A voter chooses the candidate on a touchscreen

-A ballot is printed by the machine (for a paper trail)

-The voter takes the ballot, checks it and feeds it to the tabulator.



That's all. Could someone please explain at which point in this process do the "vatican quantum sattelites", "servers in Frankfurt", etc come into play?


For what I can think of, there are 3 ways the vote could be frauded:

1. After choosing the candidate on the touchscreen, the machine prints a ballot with the other candidate.

This cannot have happened, as the voters can check the ballot after printing. Even if some forget to do this, there would have been hundreds of thousands of complaints on election day. There is no record of this happening.

2. When the voter feeds the ballot in the tabulator, the machine doesn't count the correct vote, it counts a vote for the opposite candidate. But the actual paper ballot will stay in the box for further audit.

This also has been proven to not have happened, as there were 2 MANUAL recounts of the paper ballots in Georgia that yielded the same results.

3. After the ballot printing and tabulation are done correctly, through hacking or malicious software, the entries in the centralized databases are manipulated and votes are switched from one candidate to the other.

This also has been proven to not have happened, as there were 2 MANUAL recounts of the paper ballots in Georgia that yielded the same results.


If you take the time to think about the process you will realize that all of the dominion voting fraud claims actually contradict each other or are completely incompatible with how the process works.

So all those people that tweet/blog/vlog about this are either:

a) Completely ignorant and haven't taken 5 minutes to examine how the voting process works - but are making grave claims which, if true, would demonstrate the greatest fraud in the last 50 years (but, again, haven't taken 5 minutes to investigate the process)

b) Not intelligent enough to understand how the process I just described works.

c) Well informed about the process and sufficiently intelligent to understand it - but highly malevolent and manipulative in order to gain monetization through clicks/views/donations or political benefits.


Disclaimer: If there is any part of the process that I have misrepresented, or the information that I had was incorrect, please let me know as I might be wrong.
This is just a conclusion that I have reached after documenting from various sources on how electronic voting works in the US

Can anyone please explain at which point in this process do the "vatican secure sattelites", "servers in Frankfurt", etc come into play?
I've watched multiple videos posted by users here and can't find one that explicitly clarifies this.

Gemma13
8th January 2021, 17:41
Can anyone please explain at which point in this process do the "vatican secure sattelites", "servers in Frankfurt", etc come into play?
I've watched multiple videos posted by users here and can't find one that explicitly clarifies this.

Maria Strollo Zack provides good coverage in this recording link (well worth listening to): 

https://vocaroo.com/1e976QE4oDoy

which can be found in this post which is followed by updates:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113545-Italian-Hand-in-Pro-Biden-Election-Fraud&p=1401386&viewfull=1#post1401386

T Smith
8th January 2021, 17:42
When they stormed Capitol Hill Trump supporters took Pelosi’s laptops which had a boatload of evidence. About a dozen laptops were given to Trump.

Robert David Steele, Simon Parkes With Charlie Ward Speak Trump, UK, What's To Come & More Must Watch!


That was the WORST staged event at the US Capitol that I have ever seen. Everyone of those ACTORS that ended up in the Capitol Building were paid actors.

By Global Agenda

Which is it?

Staged actors broke the damn, broke windows, used two-by-fours etc, (e.g., palates of bricks were delivered to the scene by BLM/Antifa provocateurs, BLM/Antifa led the charge), and then Trump supporters followed. Water over the dam, so to speak. The break-in was allowed to happen.

I doubt Trump supporters have a laptop, though. Just a guess, no intel on that.

T Smith
8th January 2021, 17:49
Meet the New Boss......... Same as the Old Boss.

I've kept well away from this thread as I consider myself an ignoramus of all things political in the US of A, but Dear God.......... Another plan!? Has/Did the Q plan pan out? Did this plan pan out, or is this secondary plan of the original plan still part of the same plan??

OR

Is everybody clutching at straws?

I have no bloody idea what is going on, none. One of the best commenters on this thread I've seen is Chris, Greybeard, as he states, "it may be so"...... No definites no certainties, just could be's.

And I think I'm down with that. But surely, surely, if Trump was this master 5d chess player he would have played the game to his strengths whilst still in the game, no? Not at the point where he is being handed his coat, surely.

I believe what is going on is a vicious war behind the scenes... you win battles, you lose battles. No one ever said the good guys would win or be successful. The mantras like, NOTHING CAN STOP WHAT'S COMING, etc., are just rally cries.

It doesn't look good for team Patriot as far as I can tell today, January 8, but this war changes by the day, and I'm with you--what do I know?

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 18:29
Can anyone please explain at which point in this process do the "vatican secure sattelites", "servers in Frankfurt", etc come into play?
I've watched multiple videos posted by users here and can't find one that explicitly clarifies this.

Maria Strollo Zack provides good coverage in this recording link (well worth listening to): 

https://vocaroo.com/1e976QE4oDoy

which can be found in this post which is followed by updates:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113545-Italian-Hand-in-Pro-Biden-Election-Fraud&p=1401386&viewfull=1#post1401386

Hi Gemma,

I've just listened to the whole recording, sped up to 1.5x.

The only time she mentions the way the fraud worked in the whole 52 minutes is the following 10 seconds:
between 00:50 to 01:00 "Leonardo used their military satellite uplinks to load the software and transfer it over and change the vote from Trump to Biden."

The rest of the time she presents no details whatsoever as to how the process worked. Exactly as all the other videos posted here.

She talks about:

General Graziano
CIA operatives
Archbishop missing
Leonardo is involved
Her meeting Trump
How intense this all was for her
How she planned to release this
Barack oabma - Iran - Italy - funding
PR - social media, facebook posts
The danger she is in
General Flynn, Sydney Powell
She needs the money to get a plane to bring people back
She has a huge bill for the security she needed
Her scheduling future radio shows
How will she fund all this?
People will die
She needs to meet with Trump
Raise money - not our goal
They stop to pray
She's trying to protect people, but she couldn't wait anymore
She would love to do an interview with someone on the call
Scheduling interviews again
Brainstorming hashtags #Italydidit #Contecomeclean
Donate please


So please, how does this explain what I have asked for?
"Leonardo used their military satellite uplinks to load the software and transfer it over and change the vote from Trump to Biden."

This is an extremely vague statement. Even so, let's try to place it in our puzzle.

---software that changes votes from Trump to Biden---

Where can this be used?


1. After choosing the candidate on the touchscreen, the machine prints a ballot with the other candidate. - This would be done through the malware software from Leonardo - using satellites is just a fancy construct to make non technical people give more weight to the statement. The satellites do not connect directly to the voting machines, they would still have to go through the internet, so a laptop in a room in Georgia, Italy or China would do the same trick. Satellites make absolutely no sense at all in this process

This cannot have happened, as the voters can check the ballot after printing. Even if some forget to do this, there would have been hundreds of thousands of complaints on election day. There is no record of this happening.

2. When the voter feeds the ballot in the tabulator, the machine doesn't count the correct vote, it counts a vote for the opposite candidate. But the actual paper ballot will stay in the box for further audit. - This would be done through the malware software from Leonardo - using satellites is just a fancy construct to make non technical people give more weight to the statement. The satellites do not connect directly to the voting machines, they would still have to go through the internet, so a laptop in a room in Georgia, Italy or China would do the same trick. Satellites make absolutely no sense at all in this process

This also has been proven to not have happened, as there were 2 MANUAL recounts of the paper ballots in Georgia that yielded the same results.

3. After the ballot printing and tabulation are done correctly, through hacking or malicious software, the entries in the centralized databases are manipulated and votes are switched from one candidate to the other. - This would be done through the malware software from Leonardo - using satellites is just a fancy construct to make non technical people give more weight to the statement. The satellites do not connect directly to the voting machines, they would still have to go through the internet, so a laptop in a room in Georgia, Italy or China would do the same trick. Satellites make absolutely no sense at all in this process

This also has been proven to not have happened, as there were 2 MANUAL recounts of the paper ballots in Georgia that yielded the same results.



I find this recording a total waste of time and anyone trully investigating voter fraud with a critical mind would consider it a complete disgrace.

I personally place the person making the claims in the following category:

c) Well informed about the process and sufficiently intelligent to understand it - but highly malevolent and manipulative in order to gain monetization through clicks/views/donations or political benefits.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Also, one more question. If the fraud was done through software, why didn't they also change the votes for the senate and house races?
Because more people voted for Biden than for the democrats in the other elections, even though they were on the same ballot. And gaining control of the senate would have been maybe even more important to the democrats.

The answer would be that even republicans voted for Biden, but voted for the republican senate and house candidates.

One
8th January 2021, 18:46
Can anyone please explain at which point in this process do the "vatican secure sattelites", "servers in Frankfurt", etc come into play?
I've watched multiple videos posted by users here and can't find one that explicitly clarifies this.

Maria Strollo Zack provides good coverage in this recording link (well worth listening to): 

https://vocaroo.com/1e976QE4oDoy

which can be found in this post which is followed by updates:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113545-Italian-Hand-in-Pro-Biden-Election-Fraud&p=1401386&viewfull=1#post1401386

Hi Gemma,

I've just listened to the whole recording, sped up to 1.5x.

The only time she mentions the way the fraud worked in the whole 52 minutes is the following 10 seconds:
between 00:50 to 01:00 "Leonardo used their military satellite uplinks to load the software and transfer it over and change the vote from Trump to Biden."

The rest of the time she presents no details whatsoever as to how the process worked. Exactly as all the other videos posted here.

She talks about:

General Graziano
CIA operatives
Archbishop missing
Leonardo is involved
Her meeting Trump
How intense this all was for her
How she planned to release this
Barack oabma - Iran - Italy - funding
PR - social media, facebook posts
The danger she is in
General Flynn, Sydney Powell
She needs the money to get a plane to bring people back
She has a huge bill for the security she needed
Her scheduling future radio shows
How will she fund all this?
People will die
She needs to meet with Trump
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She's trying to protect people, but she couldn't wait anymore
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So please, how does this explain what I have asked for?
"Leonardo used their military satellite uplinks to load the software and transfer it over and change the vote from Trump to Biden."

This is an extremely vague statement. Even so, let's try to place it in our puzzle.

---software that changes votes from Trump to Biden---

Where can this be used?


1. After choosing the candidate on the touchscreen, the machine prints a ballot with the other candidate. - This would be done through the malware software from Leonardo - using satellites is just a fancy construct to make non technical people give more weight to the statement. The satellites do not connect directly to the voting machines, they would still have to go through the internet, so a laptop in a room in Georgia, Italy or China would do the same trick. Satellites make absolutely no sense at all in this process

This cannot have happened, as the voters can check the ballot after printing. Even if some forget to do this, there would have been hundreds of thousands of complaints on election day. There is no record of this happening.

2. When the voter feeds the ballot in the tabulator, the machine doesn't count the correct vote, it counts a vote for the opposite candidate. But the actual paper ballot will stay in the box for further audit. - This would be done through the malware software from Leonardo - using satellites is just a fancy construct to make non technical people give more weight to the statement. The satellites do not connect directly to the voting machines, they would still have to go through the internet, so a laptop in a room in Georgia, Italy or China would do the same trick. Satellites make absolutely no sense at all in this process

This also has been proven to not have happened, as there were 2 MANUAL recounts of the paper ballots in Georgia that yielded the same results.

3. After the ballot printing and tabulation are done correctly, through hacking or malicious software, the entries in the centralized databases are manipulated and votes are switched from one candidate to the other. - This would be done through the malware software from Leonardo - using satellites is just a fancy construct to make non technical people give more weight to the statement. The satellites do not connect directly to the voting machines, they would still have to go through the internet, so a laptop in a room in Georgia, Italy or China would do the same trick. Satellites make absolutely no sense at all in this process

This also has been proven to not have happened, as there were 2 MANUAL recounts of the paper ballots in Georgia that yielded the same results.



I find this recording a total waste of time and anyone trully investigating voter fraud with a critical mind would consider it a complete disgrace.

I personally place the person making the claims in the following category:

c) Well informed about the process and sufficiently intelligent to understand it - but highly malevolent and manipulative in order to gain monetization through clicks/views/donations or political benefits.

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Also, one more question. If the fraud was done through software, why didn't they also change the votes for the senate and house races?
Because more people voted for Biden than for the democrats in the other elections, even though they were on the same ballot. And gaining control of the senate would have been maybe even more important to the democrats.

The answer would be that even republicans voted for Biden, but voted for the republican senate and house candidates.

It is explained in the affidavit here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113545-Italian-Hand-in-Pro-Biden-Election-Fraud

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 19:08
It is explained in the affidavit here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113545-Italian-Hand-in-Pro-Biden-Election-Fraud

Thanks for the reply!

I read the affidavit.

The only information it provides is the following:
"utilized military grade cyber warfare encryption capabilities to transmit switched votes via military satellite of Fucino Tower to Frankfurt Germany"
and
"may have been switched to represent more than total voters registered."

Both statements are completely vague and would not be made by an IT professional.


1st statement
Why would they transmit switched votes to Germany? What does it actually mean to transmit switched votes?

Votes are not unique tokens in the system, as they are anonymous. Votes are only 2 sums in a database. 1 sum for Biden, 1 sum for Trump

For example:
Biden Trump
2000 2000

What exactly would they transmit? Those numbers? Why would they? If they had access to the database, they would switch them on the spot. They would have the switched data on the egress terminal. What would they even transfer back?

And the actual fraud is modifying the data in the DB, so why would you state this part in your affidavit as the highlight of the operation? Because it contains multiple shiny and fancy technical key words. Manipulation 101
"utilized military grade cyber warfare encryption capabilities to transmit switched votes via military satellite of Fucino Tower to Frankfurt Germany"

This statement makes absolutely no sense and highly discredits the person writing it.


2nd statement:
"may have been switched to represent more than total voters registered."

How is that possible? "may have", we don't even know. If you go in to manipulate a DB, you go in with an algorithm, with the numbers prepared. You are sofisticated enough to hack your way into the US electoral system, but you can't "throttle" your voter fraud.

This is the funniest thing I have ever read, and it is akin to the way hacking is represented in this clip:
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It's all technical mumbo jumbo written for non technical people.

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Even so, if they used software,why didn't they also change the votes for the senate and house races?
Because more people voted for Biden than for the democrats in the other elections, even though they were on the same ballot. And gaining control of the senate would have been maybe even more important to the democrats.

The answer would be that even republicans voted for Biden, but voted for the republican senate and house candidates.

Also, this is all impossible, as using software does not alter the paper ballots.
And Georgia had 2 manual recounts which produced the same results.

TargeT
8th January 2021, 19:20
Also, this is all impossible, as using software does not alter the paper ballots.
And Georgia had 2 manual recounts which produced the same results.

yeah, with no signature validation (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/technology/georgia-recount-signature-match.html)....useless.

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 19:24
Also, this is all impossible, as using software does not alter the paper ballots.
And Georgia had 2 manual recounts which produced the same results.

yeah, with no signature validation....useless.

No signature validation implies that the fraud was committed before the ballots were sent in. So the paper ballots would already be for Biden, there would be no need to switch the votes in the DB.

That's why I said that multiple theories have been posted that actually contradict each other. It's like they're fishing for something to stick.

So either they faked signatures or they manipulated the DB.

Which one is it? And if you pick one, you have to realize that the proponents of the other fraud method are scam-artists.

greybeard
8th January 2021, 19:35
BREAKING- Pence DESTROY Pelosi after backfires HORRIBLY with B00MSHELL oppose of Trump removal


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzlLEdL3o7Q

Ben
8th January 2021, 19:39
FBI raiding law offices in Tennessee. Livestream.

zqJGVMbFodo

Apologies, it's a recording of a livestream from 2hrs ago.

TargeT
8th January 2021, 19:45
So either they faked signatures or they manipulated the DB.

Which one is it?

both? lol.... I mean, have you been paying attention?

One
8th January 2021, 19:53
Also, this is all impossible, as using software does not alter the paper ballots.
And Georgia had 2 manual recounts which produced the same results.

yeah, with no signature validation....useless.

No signature validation implies that the fraud was committed before the ballots were sent in. So the paper ballots would already be for Biden, there would be no need to switch the votes in the DB.

That's why I said that multiple theories have been posted that actually contradict each other. It's like they're fishing for something to stick.

So either they faked signatures or they manipulated the DB.

Which one is it? And if you pick one, you have to realize that the proponents of the other fraud method are scam-artists.

I think it was already established that both manual and digital manipulation took place. I got the impression the Italy stuff helped with a missing part of the digital puzzle.

Given the Italy details are a bit vague at the moment it seems a little early to try and discredit it just because it doesn't go into the specifics. I'd hang on a while and see what transpires.

T Smith
8th January 2021, 20:02
No signature validation implies that the fraud was committed before the ballots were sent in. So the paper ballots would already be for Biden, there would be no need to switch the votes in the DB.



Actually, no. The algorithm for the Dominion machines were programed to switch and/or tabulate at .75 for Trump and 1.25 for Biden. Some of the adjudicated votes, which go into a batch, and which can be controlled by a single remote actor, were all switched to Biden. In other words, the dominion machines had multiple ways to control the vote, but the vote switch was based on an algorithm. The perpetrators were hoping this would put Biden over the top without stuffing the ballot box. But not so. And, the same algorithm was used in 2016, but Hillary still lost. They didn't have the backup plan in place in 2016, and even if they did, it wouldn't have been as easy to pull off without the new, unconstitutional Covid rules that loosened up the whole voting process.

This time, the dems had a surefire plan (there was no way in hell they were going let 2016 happen again); they would use Dominion, and if necessary stuff the ballot box in captured democratic strong-holds, e.g. Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Phoenix. The paper ballots were only executed into the plan after the overwhelming Trump vote "broke" the algorithm again; that's why they shut down counting in the early morning and executed the massive vote dumps (fraudulent absentee ballots).

This was a two-part plan.

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 20:09
So either they faked signatures or they manipulated the DB.

Which one is it?

both? lol.... I mean, have you been paying attention?

Well if they did both, then they would have committed fraud by mailing in votes for Biden, and not signed by the actual voters; and they would have also manipulated the votes in the DB


So it would render you previous point moot.




yeah, with no signature validation (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/technology/georgia-recount-signature-match.html)....useless.

Because by altering the DB, the paper ballots wouldn't match the vote tally.

Is it now more clear?

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Also, this is all impossible, as using software does not alter the paper ballots.
And Georgia had 2 manual recounts which produced the same results.

yeah, with no signature validation....useless.

No signature validation implies that the fraud was committed before the ballots were sent in. So the paper ballots would already be for Biden, there would be no need to switch the votes in the DB.

That's why I said that multiple theories have been posted that actually contradict each other. It's like they're fishing for something to stick.

So either they faked signatures or they manipulated the DB.

Which one is it? And if you pick one, you have to realize that the proponents of the other fraud method are scam-artists.

I think it was already established that both manual and digital manipulation took place. I got the impression the Italy stuff helped with a missing part of the digital puzzle.

Given the Italy details are a bit vague at the moment it seems a little early to try and discredit it just because it doesn't go into the specifics. I'd hang on a while and see what transpires.

I have previously explained that the specifics that the affidavit does go into make no sense. So what would I wait for if from the start it is clearly a fake claim?

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No signature validation implies that the fraud was committed before the ballots were sent in. So the paper ballots would already be for Biden, there would be no need to switch the votes in the DB.



Actually, no. The algorithm for the Dominion machines were programed to switch and/or tabulate at .75 for Trump and 1.25 for Biden. Some of the adjudicated votes, which go into a batch, and which can be controlled by a single remote actor, were all switched to Biden. In other words, the dominion machines had multiple ways to control the vote, but the vote switch was based on an algorithm. The perpetrators were hoping this would put Biden over the top without stuffing the ballot box. But not so. And, the same algorithm was used in 2016, but Hillary still lost. They didn't have the backup plan in place in 2016, and even if they did, it wouldn't have been as easy to pull off without the new, unconstitutional Covid rules that loosened up the whole voting process.

This time, the dems had a sure-fire plan (there was no way in hell they were going let 2016 happen again); they would use Dominion, and if necessary stuff the ballot box in captured democratic strong-holds, e.g. Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Phoenix. The paper ballots were only executed into the plan after the overwhelming Trump vote "broke" the algorithm again; that's why they shut down counting in the early morning and executed the massive vote dumps (fraudulent absentee ballots).

This was a two-part plan.

If the machine manipulated the vote, why did the 2 manual audits produce the same results? The machines print paper ballots according to the votes cast.

T Smith
8th January 2021, 20:13
FBI raiding law offices in Tennessee. Livestream.

zqJGVMbFodo

Apologies, it's a recording of a livestream from 2hrs ago.

Can anyone break down who is being raided and why?

greybeard
8th January 2021, 20:19
I think its important to be aware that much of this is an ongoing investigation into voter fraud with an intent to prosecute.
With an ongoing investigation it may not be wise to go into great detail of what has been found
According to the Trump team -- they have thousands of sworn affidavits from witnesses of the alleged fraud.
Patience is perhaps required.
Chris

T Smith
8th January 2021, 20:19
If the machine manipulated the vote, why did the 2 manual audits produce the same results? The machines print paper ballots according to the votes cast.

Because they put the same fraudulent ballots through the machines again. The manual audit didn't didn't tally every ballot by hand, it simply laundered the same fraudulent ballots through the the machines, in which the same algorithm was applied.

And, as Target indicated, none of the ballots they ran through were vetted by signature, ensuring the "stuffed" ballots were counted again.

Why would you expect a "duplicate" election not to match the first?

greybeard
8th January 2021, 20:53
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Two days old but well worth watching.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5erqG8ADt0s

samildamach
8th January 2021, 21:07
Also, this is all impossible, as using software does not alter the paper ballots.
And Georgia had 2 manual recounts which produced the same results.

yeah, with no signature validation....useless.

No signature validation implies that the fraud was committed before the ballots were sent in. So the paper ballots would already be for Biden, there would be no need to switch the votes in the DB.

That's why I said that multiple theories have been posted that actually contradict each other. It's like they're fishing for something to stick.

So either they faked signatures or they manipulated the DB.

Which one is it? And if you pick one, you have to realize that the proponents of the other fraud method are scam-artists.

From previous posts a month ago it was detailed that multiple frauds of very kinds of small and large amounts were carried out.intial fraud was small amounts to go unnoticed followed by larger frauds when bigger counts were needed.different ballot papers were used some pre printed from China.some hand done from new york.its not an eithier or it's all. Your derailing the thread by not reading from the beginning

Gracy
8th January 2021, 21:14
When they stormed Capitol Hill Trump supporters took Pelosi’s laptops which had a boatload of evidence. About a dozen laptops were given to Trump.

Robert David Steele, Simon Parkes With Charlie Ward Speak Trump, UK, What's To Come & More Must Watch!


That was the WORST staged event at the US Capitol that I have ever seen. Everyone of those ACTORS that ended up in the Capitol Building were paid actors.

By Global Agenda

Which is it?

Staged actors broke the damn, broke windows, used two-by-fours etc, (e.g., palates of bricks were delivered to the scene by BLM/Antifa provocateurs, BLM/Antifa led the charge), and then Trump supporters followed. Water over the dam, so to speak. The break-in was allowed to happen.

Three different narratives being attached to this event: 1) Our patriot heroes took matters into their own hands. 2) It was all Antifa. 3) And now it's a blend of the two.

If it was a blend, then those were people easily led into committing federal crimes, and joining a riot. Hardly qualities that demonstrate good decision making and leadership skills, not the type of people Tucker Carlson says need to be listened to for historical reasons IMO.

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 21:39
If the machine manipulated the vote, why did the 2 manual audits produce the same results? The machines print paper ballots according to the votes cast.

Because they put the same fraudulent ballots through the machines again. The manual audit didn't didn't tally every ballot by hand, it simply laundered the same fraudulent ballots through the the machines, in which the same algorithm was applied.

And, as Target indicated, none of the ballots they ran through were vetted by signature, ensuring the "stuffed" ballots were counted again.

Why would you expect a "duplicate" election not to match the first?

I'm sorry, but you are confusing things.

If the signatures don't match, the fraud was commited before the votes arrived. So the paper ballots for both Biden and Trump are counted. The database will show a tally under the 2 names.

The software tampering implies that after that count is finished (or during, as you imply an "algorthim" is used), someone manipulates the DB to change the tallies. That means that during an audit the number of paper ballots will mismatch the number in the DB.
It doesn't matter if they put "the same fraudulent ballots through the machines again".

The tally would be different during a manual recount.

I really don't know how to explain it any clearer.

And regarding the algorithm inside the machine... The source code and all the security checks have been audited and validated multiple times by both democrats and republicans.
Trump has been in office for 4 years, why didn't he introduce any safeguards?

If he was so sure of this fraud and he is the most powerful man in the world... why didn't he prevent this?

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 21:44
Also, this is all impossible, as using software does not alter the paper ballots.
And Georgia had 2 manual recounts which produced the same results.

yeah, with no signature validation....useless.

No signature validation implies that the fraud was committed before the ballots were sent in. So the paper ballots would already be for Biden, there would be no need to switch the votes in the DB.

That's why I said that multiple theories have been posted that actually contradict each other. It's like they're fishing for something to stick.

So either they faked signatures or they manipulated the DB.

Which one is it? And if you pick one, you have to realize that the proponents of the other fraud method are scam-artists.

From previous posts a month ago it was detailed that multiple frauds of very kinds of small and large amounts were carried out.intial fraud was small amounts to go unnoticed followed by larger frauds when bigger counts were needed.different ballot papers were used some pre printed from China.some hand done from new york.its not an eithier or it's all. Your derailing the thread by not reading from the beginning

If an algorithm/software would be used to manipulate the tally (as implied), the paper ballot count would mismatch the DB count.

There were 2 recounts in Georgia and multiple audits to check if the machines make mistakes. It's common practice and a normal safeguard as machines are prone to errors.

The recounts produced the same results.

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Interesting tidbit here at RT news...how anyone can believe the current narrative on the vast majority of news channels is beyond me. After just a little research you can clearly see something is wrong with this election and questions need to be answered.

*********

The likelihood that Joe Biden won fair victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and Wisconsin is microscopically small, according to an expert cited in a Texas lawsuit alleging election law violations in the four states.
The suit, filed in the US Supreme Court by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, calls for judicial intervention to ensure the integrity of the 2020 presidential election results. While the legal challenge focuses primarily on alleged breaches of election laws and norms by the four defendant states, it also references “expert analysis using a commonly accepted statistical test,” which points to large-scale shenanigans.

Referring to a declaration submitted by Charles J. Cicchetti, the legal filing claims the probability of Biden winning the popular vote in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin independently, given President Donald Trump’s early lead in those states is “less than one in a quadrillion, or one in 1,000,000,000,000,000.” To win the four contested states collectively, the odds for Biden drop to “one in a quadrillion to the fourth power,” the lawsuit says.

Cicchetti, who received a B.A. from Colorado College and a Ph.D. from Rutgers University, both in economics, taught economics and environmental studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He served as the deputy director of the Energy and Environmental Policy Center at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government, and is the author of numerous books and articles on energy policy.

Biden election success ‘not statistically impossible, but statistically IMPLAUSIBLE,’ pollster says Biden election success ‘not statistically impossible, but statistically IMPLAUSIBLE,’ pollster says
The professor’s “expert analysis” caused a sensation among conservative pundits and alternative news outlets, but some were more skeptical of the provocative assertion.

A blog post published by online libertarian magazine Reason lambasted the “outlandish claims,” insisting “there is no ‘commonly accepted statistical test’ that will, or can, demonstrate that the odds of Biden winning these four states, given Trump’s early lead, are so incredibly long. It is a fantasy.” Trump’s disappearing leads in all four battleground states can be easily explained by mail-in ballots that were counted later and were heavily in Biden’s favor, Reason’s David Post argued.

For now, the methodology used by Cicchetti remains a mystery. His full declaration is expected to be filed in an upcoming motion and is not yet publicly available.

Cicchetti isn’t the only one to give extremely bad odds to Biden, however. Pollster Patrick Basham, founder of research organization the Democracy Institute, said the Democrat’s victory defied “non-polling metrics” that have “a 100 percent accuracy rate,” and described the election results as “statistically implausible.”

More here

https://www.rt.com/usa/509108-biden-probability-quadrillion-texas-lawsuit/

Viking

Let me try to explain this as simply as possible.

If you take 1000 republicans and 1000 democrats, ask them to vote - you will have 2000 votes.

If you mix all of those votes and count 1900 of them and the result is 60% trump and 40% Biden, the statistical probability of the remaining 100 votes to skew that result is very low.
-this is called a randomly sampling

But if you count the 1000 rep votes first and have 98% Trump, 2% Biden, it doesn't mean that the rest of the votes should go the same way.
-this is called sampling different populations




The votes counted in the first part of the day were in person votes, which based on voter party registration skewed heavily republican.

The votes counted in the second time frame were absentee or mail in votes, which based on voter party registration skewed heavily democrat.

"Nonsense dressed up in statistical jargon is still nonsense."


White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany and president Trump repeated the claim in interviews and presented it as a "smoking gun".
As you now understand that it is completely false, which of the 3 options apply to Trump and the White House team + the opinion show hosts that didn't challenge it?

a) Completely ignorant and haven't taken 5 minutes to examine the statistical analysis - but are making grave claims which, if true, would demonstrate the greatest fraud in the last 50 years (but, again, haven't taken 5 minutes to investigate the claim)

b) Not intelligent enough to understand the analysis I just described.

c) Well informed about the process and sufficiently intelligent to understand it - but highly malevolent and manipulative in order to gain monetization through clicks/views/donations or political benefits.

T Smith
8th January 2021, 21:58
When they stormed Capitol Hill Trump supporters took Pelosi’s laptops which had a boatload of evidence. About a dozen laptops were given to Trump.

Robert David Steele, Simon Parkes With Charlie Ward Speak Trump, UK, What's To Come & More Must Watch!


That was the WORST staged event at the US Capitol that I have ever seen. Everyone of those ACTORS that ended up in the Capitol Building were paid actors.

By Global Agenda

Which is it?

Staged actors broke the damn, broke windows, used two-by-fours etc, (e.g., palates of bricks were delivered to the scene by BLM/Antifa provocateurs, BLM/Antifa led the charge), and then Trump supporters followed. Water over the dam, so to speak. The break-in was allowed to happen.

Three different narratives being attached to this event: 1) Our patriot heroes took matters into their own hands. 2) It was all Antifa. 3) And now it's a blend of the two.

If it was a blend, then those were people easily led into committing federal crimes, and joining a riot. Hardly qualities that demonstrate good decision making and leadership skills, not the type of people Tucker Carlson says need to be listened to for historical reasons IMO.

Door number 3

T Smith
8th January 2021, 22:03
The votes counted in the first part of the day were in person votes, which based on voter party registration skewed heavily republican.

The votes counted in the second time frame were absentee or mail in votes, which based on voter party registration skewed heavily democrat.



Why do we accept these assumptions as given? Do you have any empirical evidence to support this? What evidence backs this, besides that MSM narrative that programmed us to accept this would be case?

Zamolxe
8th January 2021, 22:06
What exactly are you challenging from that post?

It is recorded when a person votes and there are official records of party registration.

Also, do you not believe that republicans voted more in-person and democrats voted more absentee and through mail-in ballots?

BoR
8th January 2021, 22:07
When they stormed Capitol Hill Trump supporters took Pelosi’s laptops which had a boatload of evidence. About a dozen laptops were given to Trump.

Robert David Steele, Simon Parkes With Charlie Ward Speak Trump, UK, What's To Come & More Must Watch!


That was the WORST staged event at the US Capitol that I have ever seen. Everyone of those ACTORS that ended up in the Capitol Building were paid actors.

By Global Agenda

Which is it?

Staged actors broke the damn, broke windows, used two-by-fours etc, (e.g., palates of bricks were delivered to the scene by BLM/Antifa provocateurs, BLM/Antifa led the charge), and then Trump supporters followed. Water over the dam, so to speak. The break-in was allowed to happen.

Three different narratives being attached to this event: 1) Our patriot heroes took matters into their own hands. 2) It was all Antifa. 3) And now it's a blend of the two.

If it was a blend, then those were people easily led into committing federal crimes, and joining a riot. Hardly qualities that demonstrate good decision making and leadership skills, not the type of people Tucker Carlson says need to be listened to for historical reasons IMO.

Here is what happened:

1. Antifa/BLM actors put up a play with a pathetically small group of police and security people, who are supposed to be the only security measure of The Capitol in Washington freaking DC, on the most crucial day in 4 years, knowing there would be a million protesters that day. They get in with the least of trouble.
2. The real protesters arrive, watch what happens, see these people who appear to them as fellow protesters fighting some policemen. Everyone wants to see what is happening.
3. The police then invites them in (proven by video footage), because there are too many now, which is their excuse.
4. Really? We are allowed to go into the Capitol? Wow! Cool! And so they orderly walk in the building, and marvel at the statues, having no clue they took the bait
5. Up front a woman gets shot for no reason, or maybe for a reason provoked by the Antifa thugs surrounding her.

6. Nobody pays attention to the proceedings that resume as soon as the ‘threat’ is neutralized, and everyone is off guard by the crazy movie they have been seeing. And only now on January 8 people come to their senses and realize they have been played....again.

But people who support Trump are so very intelligent, they are super humans, so they would never fall for that, in the heat of the moment, so the above must be incorrect according to Gracy 😉

T Smith
8th January 2021, 22:16
If it was a blend, then those were people easily led into committing federal crimes, and joining a riot. Hardly qualities that demonstrate good decision making and leadership skills, not the type of people Tucker Carlson says need to be listened to for historical reasons IMO.

Gracy, this is all a psyop. Minds are being programmed as I type.

Am I immune to the mind control afoot here? I don't know. But to the best of my objective understanding of the facts, I believe the third narrative most closely reflects the truth, but it doesn't matter. What matters is how reality is fashioned in the minds of people. Most people go through the door that demonizes radical right-wing Trump supporters without any thought whatsoever.

To wit:

The very same thing happened at the capital building when Kavanaugh was sworn in when a mob of leftists stormed the capital building (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/28/brett-kavanaugh-hearing-protesters-christine-blasey-ford/1453524002/); where's the narrative outrage? There isn't any, because these protestors were portrayed in an entirely different light and even sympathized with. Further, the capital police didn't shoot any of those protestors, who did the same thing.

This time around, a few of the protestors were murdered to galvanize the narrative.

Absolutely disgusting.

Gracy
8th January 2021, 23:13
If it was a blend, then those were people easily led into committing federal crimes, and joining a riot. Hardly qualities that demonstrate good decision making and leadership skills, not the type of people Tucker Carlson says need to be listened to for historical reasons IMO.


Gracy, this is all a psyop. Minds are being programmed as I type.

Am I immune to the mind control afoot here? I don't know. But to the best of my objective understanding of the facts, I believe the third narrative most closely reflects the truth, but it doesn't matter. What matters is how reality is fashioned in the minds of people. Most people go through the door that demonizes radical right-wing Trump supporters without any thought whatsoever.
Well now, lord knows I've seen my fair share of demonization both ways. I should hope that's not in question as the left is mercilessly demonized here and many other places as well.

Actually, it's not even the left any more, it's now anyone of note, even close allies, who dare disagree in principal with Team Trump, and the driving mission to stay in power come hell or high water.

The ever loyal, dutifully serving and waiting his turn Mike Pence being a good example.

OmeyocaN777
9th January 2021, 00:03
Election, Rome, Leonardo Co. - how they tie together (17 Dec)

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Rome, Satellites, Servers (17 Dec)

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Election Fraud & Italy (6 Jan)

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ExomatrixTV
9th January 2021, 00:35
BREAKING: A senior IT expert of a top defense firm has allegedly testified in Italy (Short Excerpt):

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BREAKING: A senior IT expert of a top defense firm has allegedly testified in Italy (Short Excerpt) over foreign voter interference. Full version coming later.

Zamolxe
9th January 2021, 00:51
It seems that I have upset the state of affairs by challenging the narrative on this forum.
I have been contacted by Bill Ryan who has questioned me of why I am posting about american politics... even though I have not posted any hostile or offensive message.

I don't want to stop people from their regular programming and send anyone into damage control because someone is bringing factual evidence that confronts the claims posted here, which all seem to lean in one direction.
I hope I did not cause the top posters to slow down their usual information sharing.

I do not have any hidden motives, just time to spare while in my last days of quarantine. I probably best explained myself in this post:



Just to be clear, I am for holding every politician accountable for his actions. And I am equally dismayed when I see people bootlicking Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.
But that happened more naturally, it would take a different thread to discuss it in detail.

What I have seen in the past years after Trump's election was disinformation at a level that I didn't even think possible. It seems that social media has transformed people into being even more naive and gullible, as they form homogenous groups and close theirselves inside echo chambers, bubbles where they bounce around their own views without accepting any conflicting outside opinions.




I think humanity collectively coming together once it gets bad enough will be the answer.


Not if at that point in time, another con-man appears and drifts us in the wrong direction or even worse, drives a wedge between us.

I think we need to get tougher and smarter, learn to think more critically and practice discernment in order to be immune to the manipulation and disinformation that has flooded our society in the past years. Only then will we be strong enough to fight off these grifters and scam artists and not keep falling for "nigerian princes" with a bank account under our name... And stop forming cult-like followings for these scammers.

When I "started my journey".. I used to hear a lot of people reffering to "sheeple" that watch CNN and believe all of their lies.
Now I see that this exact community is even more blindly swallowing any BS just because it comes from the "truther" side of the internet. They seem to be even more ignorant than the "sheeple" they were patronizing.

If all they saw in those "sheeple" was a group of people that they can feel superior to, because they had the absolute truth and the others didn't... then they haven't learned anything in the lines of awareness, logical analysis, perception and reasoning... and it was all just an ego trip.


If I've managed to convince even one reader to have a more open mind and fight against cognitive dissonance to escape their bubble, then I am truly happy.

And for you, the silent reader that doesn't post... you are not alone! Don't think for a second that what you read on forums is the opinion of the majority. Most of the top posters on any website are usually not authentic and it is their job to manipulate you. (not pointing a finger at Avalon, just the internet in general)

Good luck to all in your journeys... and please, try to be more critical with information you read on the web.

Cheers!

ExomatrixTV
9th January 2021, 03:10
BREAKING: A senior IT expert of a top defense firm has allegedly testified in Italy (FULL VERSION):

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Press Release: Votes Switched throughout U.S. Presidential Race – Institute for Good Governance


by Marjorie Meyers (https://nationsinaction.org/author/meyers/) | Jan 6, 2021 | Press Release (https://nationsinaction.org/category/press-release/)

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PRESS RELEASE


Senior IT Expert at Global Defense Contractor Testifies in Italian Federal Court; He and Others Switched Votes throughout America in the U.S. Presidential Race (https://www.lunico.eu/category/editoriale/)

Rome, Italy (January 5, 2021) – An employee of the 8th largest global defense contractor, Leonardo SpA, provided a shocking deposition detailing his role in the most elaborate criminal act affecting a US election. Corroborating the DNI Ratcliff’s report of international intrusion, Arturo D’elio outlined the scheme that proved successful in using Leonardo computer systems and military satellites located in Pescara, Italy. Recent reports of a hack at Leonardo now appear to have been an orchestrated cover to mitigate blowback on the corporation which is partially owned by the Italian government.

Nations In Action, a government transparency organization, partnered with the Institute of Good Governance to thoroughly investigate and research the election irregularities which yielded the long awaited proof that a flawless plot to take down America was executed with extraordinary resources and global involvement. Americans and elected officials now have proof that the election was indeed stolen.
This provides the mechanism for each state to recall their slate of electors immediately or face lawsuits and request all federal government agencies to lock down all internal communications, equipment and documentation from the Rome Embassy. “Make no mistake, this is a coup d’etat that we will stop in the name of justice and free and fair elections,” stated Maria Strollo Zack, Chairman of Nations in Action.

The Institute for Good Governance issued the following statement:

Our mission is to provide the full truth, expose the perpetrators of this horrific crime, and ensure that every person involved, regardless of position, be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Nations In Action and the Institute for Good Governance are making the following demands on elected officials:

• Depose State Department officials starting with Rome staff including Stefan Serafini
• Immediately strip Leonardo SpA of all contracts and seize assets
• All congressional members must speak out against this foreign and domestic interference or face recalls and suspicion of involvement
• Implement the most severe penalties for participants who had knowledge or participated and refuse to assist in the investigation

Maria Strollo Zack, founder of Nations In Action added, “States must prosecute all illegal voting activities and provide immediate legislative remedies. There can only be zero tolerance for criminal interference in American elections. This international conspiracy must be met with swift action by the President and be fully supported by elected officials for the protection of voting integrity and the prosperity of our great nation.”


Click HERE (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yNnkTEuiDkrqnLa-rHEQKcBBIziNIlAn/view?usp=sharing) for related information.
Click HERE (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RQMxmbW8ujZmfTUl2D1jXWS996ZgmoHo/view?usp=sharing) to view the General Affidavit.

To book a media interview with Maria Strollo Zack, please contact:
Marjorie Meyers, Nations In Action
646-246-8606 or Marjorie.Meyers@NationsInAction.org

source (https://nationsinaction.org/2021/01/press-release-voter-fraud/)


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Maria Zack Italy did it - Arturo D'Elia Admits to Stealing Election

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Chinese to English Translation Text from Above Video:

Professor Yi swears to testify #阿图罗 #Arturo
Heavy! ! An Italian IT expert testified under oath and was instructed to manipulate the voting system to steal Trump votes!
#意教授宣晓证证#阿图罗·德埃利亚#Arturo D'Elia Steal#

Trump votes Italian IT expert Arturo D'Elia signed a written testimony on January 6, local time, admitting that he had been stolen through the voting system in the US presidential election on November 3, 2020 Trump's vote goes to Biden's name.


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http://whynotnews.eu/pix/GennFlynnTwitter.png




This is what you see now on General Flynn Twitter Account (with 1,23 Million Followers):


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twitter.com/genflynn (http://twitter.com/genflynn)



back up video 01:

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source (https://www.bitchute.com/video/DW01l8so4PZG/)


back up video 02:

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source (https://www.bitchute.com/video/HHFxEef1fI4w/)

T Smith
9th January 2021, 03:48
The software tampering implies that after that count is finished (or during, as you imply an "algorthim" is used), someone manipulates the DB to change the tallies. That means that during an audit the number of paper ballots will mismatch the number in the DB.

The tally would be different during a manual recount.



You're correct. I'm confused. If votes are taken away from one candidate and awarded to the other, the ballots match the DB. You can see this happening in real time on election night. The total votes remain the same, but a set number X is subtracted from Trump and the same number X is added to Biden.

And yes, I absolutely agree. If there was a manual count of the ballots the tally would be different. But there wasn't a manual count of the ballots. The ballots audited were not checked to assure their signatures matched the voter registration record and were merely manually fed through the machines again, one by one.

So let's look at the math using a random number of official votes cast for sake of illustration. Let's say in the State of Georgia there are 5,000,000 ballots tallied. Let's say 97% of them (4,850,000) are legitimate, either in-person or absentee. Of the 4,850,000.00 legitimate votes, Trump garners 54% and Biden 46%, as below:

Trump: 2,619,000
Biden: 2,231,000


The dominion algorithm flips a certain percentage of these votes, but doesn't change the total number of votes. Let's say that percentage is 5% (those who have analyzed the algorithm estimate this the approximate percentage). The "official" totals of the 4,850,000 ballots are then changed to:

Trump: 2,488,050
Biden: 2,361,950

You will note the total number of legitimate ballots is still 4,850,000 but Biden is still short some 126,100 votes. In other words, the Trump vote has broke the algorithm, so the Dominion scam failed. This is exactly what happened in 2016.... but not so in 2020. In 2020 the PTB were preparing for this possibility. At the end of the election day (or nearing the end of the day) they knew they needed to find 126,100+ fraudulent ballots to add into the mix, e.g. dead people, underage people, out-of state voters, etc., (all data garnered from the Georgian Secretary of State DMV to produce a fraudulent ballot) and in some cases printed ballots from phantom voters that matched no registration, no valid address, or any registration at all (a signature audit would have caught all of this). At some point during the night, then, roughly when the "water main broke" statisticians crunching the numbers determined they were going to need approximately 150,000 Biden votes to push him over the top. So they cleared out the room and counted an additional 3% pre-prepared fraudulent ballots (150,000). All these ballots were generated using the old fashioned scam of ballot stuffing and then pulled from suitcases from under a table. These "vote dumps" were all for Biden and happened in 6 other states, at exactly the same time, using the same methods, and in amounts necessary to push Biden over the top. In some states, where the margin was nearly insurmountable, it took days to find enough ballots to complete the scam.

In the Georgia election of our example, after the vote dump, the official tally of the election is now:

Trump: 2,488,050
Biden: 2,511,950

Of the 5,000,000 ballots, Biden wins by roughly 23,000 votes.

Unless I am incorrectly understanding the process--and by all means correct me if I am wrong--and unless all 5,000,000 of these ballots are counted manually by hand and not put through the machines, the ballots and DB match and Biden wins by 23,000 votes every time.

TargeT
9th January 2021, 04:11
It seems that I have upset the state of affairs by challenging the narrative on this forum.
I have been contacted by Bill Ryan who has questioned me of why I am posting about american politics... even though I have not posted any hostile or offensive message.


You are (seemingly) the perfect example of a sock puppet account, you came out of nowhere and started posting about things that have already been thoroughly discussed and contemplated... when were you activated?

unfortunately your tactics don't work here, we tend to be a more intellectual and thoughtful group.

if you want to stir ****, read the thread first.

Gemma13
9th January 2021, 04:21
Zamolxe: I find this recording a total waste of time and anyone trully investigating voter fraud with a critical mind would consider it a complete disgrace.

I personally place the person making the claims in the following category:

c) Well informed about the process and sufficiently intelligent to understand it - but highly malevolent and manipulative in order to gain monetization through clicks/views/donations or political benefits.

This story is still breaking with more video discussions coming out.  See post #1831.  Perhaps you could view those and give feedback as to whether more of the technical analysis you are looking for is forthcoming.

You are also welcome to write to "the team", (at the bottom of NationsInAction website via this link), and ask them directly for specifics instead of relying on members to nut it out for you.  Your research and sharing of it would be appreciated.

https://nationsinaction.org

As to this team being highly malevolent and manipulative, forgive my naivety at still believing there are honest, decent people out there with a shred of power and opportunity to do the right thing and expose corruption.  Today I find this team credible and will eagerly follow developments.  Should evidence surface that this is malevolent manipulation I will be one of the first to put my hand up.

Happy researching.  Look forward to what you can bring to the table.

ExomatrixTV
9th January 2021, 04:41
It seems that I have upset the state of affairs by challenging the narrative on this forum.
I have been contacted by Bill Ryan who has questioned me of why I am posting about american politics... even though I have not posted any hostile or offensive message.


You are (seemingly) the perfect example of a sock puppet account, you came out of nowhere and started posting about things that have already been thoroughly discussed and contemplated... when were you activated?

unfortunately your tactics don't work here, we tend to be a more intellectual and thoughtful group.

if you want to stir ****, read the thread first.

Exactly ... all complaining newbies are suspicious by default ... respect has to be earned not blindly given ... is my credo!

And I do not want to offend any new member, it is just the way how someone complains that makes me very skeptical about the assumptions someone is pushing.

cheers,
John

greybeard
9th January 2021, 05:05
The US Is Facing An Rising Communist Movement; Trump Will Not Attend Inauguration on January 20


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJDzK_gfK0k

Eva2
9th January 2021, 05:54
Someone posted this on Trump's 'unappreciated' presidency:

'This post is not open for debate. I have listened to everyone else’s hatred, rhetoric and outright lies for the last four years, so now I am having my say. If you don’t like it, you know where the delete button is. Let me be clear, I am not a Biden fan. I think he is corrupt, a liar, a racist bigot, is in bed with China and probably suffering from dementia. He has done nothing to improve anything in his 47-year political career. But what has Trump done in the past 4 years?
The "arrogant" in the White House brokered four Middle East Peace Accords, something that 71 years of political intervention and endless war failed to produce.
The "buffoon" in the White House is the first president that has not engaged us in a foreign war since Eisenhower.
The "racist" in the White House has had the greatest impact on the economy, bringing jobs, and lowering unemployment to the Black and Latino population of ANY other president. Ever.
The "liar" in the White House has exposed the deep, widespread, and long-standing corruption in the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the Republican and Democratic parties.
The "buffoon" in the White House turned NATO around and had them start paying their dues.
The "fool" in the White House neutralized the North Koreans and stopped them sending missiles toward Japan, and threatening the West Coast of the US.
The "xenophobe" in the White House turned our relationship with the Chinese around, brought hundreds of businesses back to the US, and revived the economy.
This same “clown” lowered your taxes, increased the standard deduction on your IRS return from $12,500 to $24,400 for married couples and caused the stock market to rise to record levels, positively impacting the retirement accounts of tens of millions of citizens.
The “clown” in the White House fast-tracked the development of multiple COVID Vaccines which are now available or will be soon. And yet we still don't have a vaccine for SARS, Bird Flu, Ebola, or a host of diseases that arose during previous administrations.
The “clown” in the White House rebuilt our military which the Obama administration crippled and fired 214 key generals and admirals in his first year of office.
I got it, you don't like him. Many of you utterly hate and despise him. How special of you. He is serving you and ALL the American people. What are you doing besides calling him names and laughing about him catching the China virus? Some of you were even hoping that COVID would be the cause of his demise. (Ah, the left. The party of “tolerance”. )
Please educate me again as to what Biden has accomplished for America in his 47 years in office, besides making the whole Biden family richer? By the way, where is Hunter?
I’ll take the “clown” any day versus a fork tongued, smooth talking hypocritical corrupt liar. I want a strong leader who isn’t afraid to kick some butt when needed. I don’t need a fatherly figure. I don’t need a liar. That's what Hollywood, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and the New York Times are for.
Call me a chump, a racist, or part of the basket of deplorables. I do not care!
God bless Donald Trump - the best, most unappreciated President in U.S. history.'

Also, I saw a pic of what appeared to be the President of Italy being arrested with the caption "THE FIRST ARREST HAS HAPPENED!
THE PRESIDENT OF ITALY, SERGIO MARTARELLA!
TRYING TO ESCAPE TO INDIA! BY U.S MILITARY AND MIKE POMPEO". I'm not sure how I feel about this one - has anyone else heard about this?

One
9th January 2021, 08:55
'MY PILLOW MAN' MIKE LINDELL: SOMETHING BIG IS COMING!
(Gives impression he is an insider)
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greybeard
9th January 2021, 09:19
βrεαking Trµmp Nεws 6pM 01\8\21 [FULL] - Lou Dobbs Tonight βrεαking Trµmp Nεws Jan 08, 2021


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jdF9kecb8E

Philippe
9th January 2021, 10:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0va54QBudol8JLnYgy0P7918CzUT8J14HVmQaKoN2h3xb5xsaJSyx9fjU&v=YwtbK5XXAMk&feature=youtu.be

More evidence of vote manipulation uncovered in Europe by the Italian Press. Brad Johnson gives his analysis based on his and the Americans for Intelligence Reform's team.


Precise description how the steal was done by Brad Johnson, retired CIA Chief of Station

How long will this be seen on yt? The same info on tw has been censored.

Ron Mauer Sr
9th January 2021, 16:24
Executive Orders may have a role to play on this topic.

Executive Orders have the color of law but may not be law.
I wonder if Executive Orders have been tested in court.

ramus
9th January 2021, 17:21
We don't have long to go to find out if this is true ..... the corruption is very deep ... I

will hold an open mind but..................we haven't won ..once!

Savannah
9th January 2021, 18:18
[QUOTE=One;1402397]'MY PILLOW MAN' MIKE LINDELL: SOMETHING BIG IS COMING!
(Gives impression he is an insider)
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I think its time to buy some more pillows and support Mike.

Ron Mauer Sr
9th January 2021, 18:18
Copied, nice rumor if true.

Military takedowns and arrests begin this wknd and will continue forward for the next 13 days/nights. Some international raids have already started. Italy has also been found complicit in our election fraud.

Everyone will be getting emergency alerts on their phones, tv's, radios & internet. It will override all other broadcasts and could last for several hours at a time. Do not to be scared of what's coming as it is for the safety of our nation for this to unfold.

DO NOT travel to any large cities (especially Philadelphia) for the rest of the month. Military operations will be taking place in many of the major corrupt cities. People will start rioting once this intel breaks thinking Trump is a military dictator. He only has 13 days to put this dog down.

The implementation of the Insurrection Act began after the raid on the Capitol and was marked by Trump's broadcast to the people to disband and return home. This broadcast wound up being blocked, for the most part, by the media. Nevertheless, his address fulfilled the requirements to initiate the Act.

Marines and National Guard troops are being moved as needed for the riots that will start after the national release of the intel. The intel will be dropped for everyone to see and hear in loops that will be several hours long. The system was just checked by the FCC a few days ago alerting ALL media that they cannot block the flow of intel under federal regs.

Trump will be moved continuously like a chess piece from now until the 20th in order to avoid any retaliation against him and family.

Trump had to exhaust ALL other means legally before this operation could commence. He gave everyone a fair chance to come clean and they refused.

His press release of a "smooth transition" did not include the word, "concede" as he has no plans to do so. Rather, there will be a smooth transition of power to his new cabinet, staff and Vice President, General Flynn.

The rally in DC was an awesome event! The raids on the Capitol all started with BLM and Antifa members (many from the Philly area) and included Capitol police or those posing as Capitol police. Every day, new info is pouring forth to support this. They opened up the barricades and doors to the Capitol and let them in. It appears there were some Special Ops members dressed as Trump supporters who went in with the crowd of protesters that were able to secure 20+ laptops w/hard drives with data regarding sex trafficking intel from both, Pelosi and Schumer's offices."

Eric J (Viking)
9th January 2021, 18:37
It’s happening!!!
First, some background on this rapidly developing situation:

Two days ago, REDPILLED Media exclusively broke the news story that President Trump secretly took a midnight flight on AF1 to the NMCC in Texas.

Link
https://redpilled.ca/huge-breaking-update-president-trump-returns-to-dc-after-two-day-top-secret-exodus-in-national-military-command-center-the-flight-callsign-is-night-1776-red-alert-we-have-lift-off-th/

Viking

bojancan
9th January 2021, 18:40
Same confirmed by Simon Parks
https://www.simonparkes.org/post/action-in-the-next-few-hours

One
9th January 2021, 21:02
ITALIAN PRESIDENT ARRESTED - INTERNET AND DEBIT MACHINES TO GO DOWN WITHIN HOURS
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OmeyocaN777
9th January 2021, 21:14
This photo is from October in India...look at the first 2 min of this video. (me too I hoped to be true)

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greybeard
9th January 2021, 21:17
ITALIAN PRESIDENT ARRESTED - INTERNET AND DEBIT MACHINES TO GO DOWN WITHIN HOURS
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I find this one hard to believe.
Are those Italian uniforms?
Chris

One
9th January 2021, 21:25
I find this one hard to believe.
Are those Italian uniforms?
Chris
Edit: Ignore me (comment removed) hadn't noticed he showed image in vid as he doesn't normally.
I couldn't comment on authenticity.
Edit again. Probably correct, given Omey post above.

T Smith
9th January 2021, 22:22
What exactly are you challenging from that post?

It is recorded when a person votes and there are official records of party registration.

Also, do you not believe that republicans voted more in-person and democrats voted more absentee and through mail-in ballots?

Not to the tune of 98% to 2%, no. I don't believe it. Neither do professional statisticians.

Also, I do not believe that Biden received 90% of the military absentee vote, but he did.

The ballots are fraudulent.

One
9th January 2021, 22:57
BOOM!!! LEGAL COUNSEL ALFIO D’URSO CONFIRMS US ELECTIONS WERE RIGGED BY DEFENSE CONTRACTOR LEONARDO
(We can debate validity I suppose)
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TomKat
9th January 2021, 23:22
Executive Orders may have a role to play on this topic.

Executive Orders have the color of law but may not be law.
I wonder if Executive Orders have been tested in court.

Executive Orders only apply to the federal bureaucracy, federal employees. Policy, not law.

Satori
9th January 2021, 23:45
Executive Orders may have a role to play on this topic.

Executive Orders have the color of law but may not be law.
I wonder if Executive Orders have been tested in court.

Executive Orders only apply to the federal bureaucracy, federal employees. Policy, not law.

With respect to the National government, the power of the POTUS to issue Executive Orders (EO) derives from Article II, sec. 3, of the US Constitution that directs that “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”

Thus, an EO has the force of law, though not technically a law, provided that the EO is itself constitutional in the sense that it is executing an existing law, typically an Act of Congress, and not creating a “law” in the first instance. That is, although historically it has been done all too often, EOs cannot be constitutionally issued to create law, only to carry out existing law.

The foregoing also applies to EOs issued by state governors vis-a-vis state laws .

greybeard
10th January 2021, 07:13
What has not been mentioned.
So far I have not seen Ex President Obama or The Clintons congratulating Biden.
You would have though that they would be very vocal and visible at the moment.
Perhaps they are residing elsewhere-- as in arrested.
Chris

One
10th January 2021, 07:49
HERE'S THE FACTS - ROSEANNE BARR CHAT WITH JUAN O SAVIN 1-9-21 - TRUTH TO THE RESCUE
(special treat for tomkat ;))
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Eric J (Viking)
10th January 2021, 09:29
Latest from Simon Parkes... ? Discern... we’ll see.

https://www.simonparkes.org/post/urgent-information

https://www.simonparkes.org/post/president-trump-to-address-the-nation

https://www.simonparkes.org/post/urgent-us-citizens-stand-by-for-ebs

More on RMN

Posted By: GeorgeEaton
Date: Saturday, 9-Jan-2021 20:16:46
www.rumormill.news/162906

It appears that the first source on the information that Trump was speaking tonight came from John B. Wells 11:11
here is what he said after 7pm came and went:
John B Wells 11:11
@JohnBWellsCTM
·
49m
I was asked to put this up by someone close to him. He has never been wrong. I cannot reach anyone right now - but please know I am not trying to deceive you. I am sure it will all make sense soon. Clearly, something changed. I will get more info and let you know.

Then another site announced that Trump was speaking at 9pm est. this was referred to Newsmax as well.
here is what they said:
https://www.simonparkes.org/post/urgent-information

this was from Simon Parkes a Bristish politician and UFO researcher. he said to watch it on Newsmax, right side broadcasting RSBN, One America News Network OANN, or America's Voice news.
He went on to say that Trump would lay out evidence of the crimes going on behind the scenes.
I also found this very interesting shot video o trump and current information, The Deep State is in a complete panic:
https://newtube.app/TonyHeller/ckiD5yh

All of the alternative news sites are slammed busy tonight and it takes a long time to log in to find any news. this is adding to the confusion and chaos, and Americans simply can't find out what is really going on.

Viking

One
10th January 2021, 09:40
KID BY THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH JUAN O'SAVIN ON SAT. NIGHT LIVESTREAM
(Not watched to see if any new info but makes good points about misinformation on both sides early on imo)
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Did You See Them
10th January 2021, 11:13
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1348222535419260931?s=19

Did You See Them
10th January 2021, 11:17
https://twitter.com/YankelKoncepol1/status/1348080797987860483?s=19

Now is this Prof D’urso or just random dude ?

One
10th January 2021, 11:44
According to O'Savin interview above at around 35 mins, Trump would be using gab for comms btw.

pueblo
10th January 2021, 12:15
Just posting this as it ties in with recent reports of military mobilisation....could of course be anything for any reason.

https://twitter.com/CryptoKoba/status/1348178255845593089?s=20

mountain_jim
10th January 2021, 14:01
According to O'Savin interview above at around 35 mins, Trump would be using gab for comms btw.

The Gab team has set up a home for Trump and has been echoing his tweets there for some time, presumably this is where he will be reached if/when he decides to activate.

https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump

Gracy
10th January 2021, 14:17
What has not been mentioned.
So far I have not seen Ex President Obama or The Clintons congratulating Biden.
You would have though that they would be very vocal and visible at the moment.
Perhaps they are residing elsewhere-- as in arrested.
Chris

Both Obama and Bill Clinton accounted for, and do not appear to be under arrest. George W. too for that matter:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/05/barack-obama-spotted-paddle-boarding-in-hawaii/

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/george-w-bush-capitol-riots-455641

greybeard
10th January 2021, 14:30
Lou Dobbs Tonight 1/2/21 FULL | Fox BREAKING TRUMP NEWS January 9, 21


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6J2q-8wHjE

Seems to me there is some support for Trump coming from this presenter.
A long video but stick with.

Chris

greybeard
10th January 2021, 14:50
Defense Officials Confirm Trump Is Still Commander in Chief, Refuse to Participate in Military Coup to Oust Him

https://www.westernjournal.com/defense-officials-confirm-trump-still-commander-chief-refuse-participate-military-coup-oust/

T Smith
10th January 2021, 15:46
What has not been mentioned.
So far I have not seen Ex President Obama or The Clintons congratulating Biden.
You would have though that they would be very vocal and visible at the moment.
Perhaps they are residing elsewhere-- as in arrested.
Chris

Both Obama and Bill Clinton accounted for, and do not appear to be under arrest. George W. too for that matter:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/05/barack-obama-spotted-paddle-boarding-in-hawaii/

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/06/george-w-bush-capitol-riots-455641

Not that I am disagreeing with you (I do not believe they are under arrest) but the information of their sightings is days old

ExomatrixTV
10th January 2021, 18:09
LINDELL: TRUMP will be PRESIDENT!
9afDlKBfp2w

⚠️ New Evidence Election Fraud (http://tinyurl.com/New-Evidence-Election-Fraud)

Eric J (Viking)
10th January 2021, 19:35
“The Best is Yet to Come"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK6zS2Q0FtM

Viking

Eric J (Viking)
10th January 2021, 20:21
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-10-at-3.06.17-PM.png

Viking

greybeard
10th January 2021, 20:33
I hope this is true Viking --im running out of pinches of salt. smiling
Chris

Eva2
10th January 2021, 20:57
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-10-at-3.06.17-PM.png

Viking

After reading this post, I'm copying this from another thread I just posted the letter on - I was a bit skeptical about the letter but maybe this tweet gives it legs - I'm not sure??

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/135742797_10164517384305632_6479530311560385099_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K97rmpZHodMAX_CddkI&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=44e2305917bb09c995a4a384ff46ca3f&oe=601FD1E2

greybeard
10th January 2021, 21:08
Thanks Jill
Thing is where did that letter come from --if on her laptop we are getting some where
Chris

Olam
10th January 2021, 21:19
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-10-at-3.06.17-PM.png

Viking

After reading this post, I'm copying this from another thread I just posted the letter on - I was a bit skeptical about the letter but maybe this tweet gives it legs - I'm not sure??

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/135742797_10164517384305632_6479530311560385099_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K97rmpZHodMAX_CddkI&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=44e2305917bb09c995a4a384ff46ca3f&oe=601FD1E2

At this point, we are very much at war. Anything pale of seeing the actual ****ers in handcuffs should be seen as propaganda.
It's very easy to make up the above letter, takes 10 minutes on the computer.
I ask myself, why would she leave a paper trail with those specific incriminating details?....she sure does look stupid, but stupid she is not.
I call it fake.

Philippe
10th January 2021, 21:20
After reading this post, I'm copying this from another thread I just posted the letter on - I was a bit skeptical about the letter but maybe this tweet gives it legs - I'm not sure??

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/135742797_10164517384305632_6479530311560385099_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K97rmpZHodMAX_CddkI&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=44e2305917bb09c995a4a384ff46ca3f&oe=601FD1E2

No politician or diplomat would put such instructions in writing :bigsmile: . It is also blatantly a fabrication because written to explain how such scenario is being played out.

Satori
10th January 2021, 21:21
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-10-at-3.06.17-PM.png

Viking

After reading this post, I'm copying this from another thread I just posted the letter on - I was a bit skeptical about the letter but maybe this tweet gives it legs - I'm not sure??

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/135742797_10164517384305632_6479530311560385099_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K97rmpZHodMAX_CddkI&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=44e2305917bb09c995a4a384ff46ca3f&oe=601FD1E2

This letter is an absolute fake.

It was made from a copy of a very short letter dated July 23, 2007 from Pelosi to a David Keating of North Syracuse NY. Including the ##24722 number in the box on the bottom right corner.

Do an image search for speaker of the house letterhead. I found it in a minute.

onevoice
10th January 2021, 21:46
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-10-at-3.06.17-PM.png

Viking

After reading this post, I'm copying this from another thread I just posted the letter on - I was a bit skeptical about the letter but maybe this tweet gives it legs - I'm not sure??

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/135742797_10164517384305632_6479530311560385099_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K97rmpZHodMAX_CddkI&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=44e2305917bb09c995a4a384ff46ca3f&oe=601FD1E2

This letter is an absolute fake.

It was made from a copy of a very short letter dated July 23, 2007 from Pelosi to a David Keating of North Syracuse NY. Including the ##24722 number in the box on the bottom right corner.

Do an image search for speaker of the house letterhead. I found it in a minute.

This is the original letter that the above letter was faked from:

Eric J (Viking)
10th January 2021, 21:58
Update from RMN... From POTUS

Why would Trump release this information at this particular time? Is something big about to go down?
I have been reading numerous reports today, which are unverified rumors, that Trump signed the Insurrection Act last night. I won't post those stories until it is actually verified. But, I will say this, there are quite a few unexplained things gong on that may add up to something about to go down. However, so far I've seen no verification of any actions going on by Trump or the military that indicates the rumors are true. GE

PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDA

Memorandum on Providing an Order of Succession Within the United States International Development Finance Corporation
Issued on: January 8, 2021
SHARE:
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE UNITED STATES INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT FINANCE CORPORATION

SUBJECT: Providing an Order of Succession Within the United States International Development Finance CorporationBy the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998, as amended, 5 U.S.C. 3345 et seq. (the “Act”), I hereby direct the following:

Section 1. Order of Succession. Subject to the provisions of section 2 of this memorandum, and to the limitations set forth in the Act, the following officers of the United States International Development Finance Corporation (DFC), in the order listed, shall act as and perform the functions and duties of the office of the Chief Executive Officer of DFC during any period in which the Chief Executive Officer of DFC has died, resigned, or otherwise become unable to perform the functions and duties of the office of the Chief Executive Officer of DFC:

(a) Deputy Chief Executive Officer;

(b) Chief Operating Officer;

(c) Executive Vice President for Strategy;

(d) Chief of Staff;

(e) Vice President and General Counsel;

(f) Deputy General Counsel;

(g) Vice President, Structured Finance and Insurance;

(h) Vice President, Development Credit; and

(i) Chief Financial Officer and Vice President, Finance.

Sec. 2. Exceptions. (a) No individual who is serving in an office listed in section 1 of this memorandum in an acting capacity shall, by virtue of so serving, act as Chief Executive Officer of DFC pursuant to this memorandum.

(b) No individual who is serving in an office listed in section 1 of this memorandum shall act as Chief Executive Officer of DFC unless that individual is otherwise eligible to so serve under the Act.

(c) Notwithstanding the provisions of this memorandum, the President retains discretion, to the extent permitted by law, to depart from this memorandum in designating an acting Chief Executive Officer of DFC.

Sec. 3. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

Sec. 4. You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

DONALD J. TRUMP

WhiteHouse.gov

Source:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/memorandum-providing-order-succession-within-united-states-international-development-finance-corporation/

Viking

Eric J (Viking)
10th January 2021, 22:02
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-10-at-3.06.17-PM.png

Viking

After reading this post, I'm copying this from another thread I just posted the letter on - I was a bit skeptical about the letter but maybe this tweet gives it legs - I'm not sure??

https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/135742797_10164517384305632_6479530311560385099_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=K97rmpZHodMAX_CddkI&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=44e2305917bb09c995a4a384ff46ca3f&oe=601FD1E2

This letter is an absolute fake.

It was made from a copy of a very short letter dated July 23, 2007 from Pelosi to a David Keating of North Syracuse NY. Including the ##24722 number in the box on the bottom right corner.

Do an image search for speaker of the house letterhead. I found it in a minute.

This is the original letter that the above letter was faked from:

Number in bottom right is not 24722

Edit...Supposed to be 74722 Satori...

Viking

pueblo
10th January 2021, 22:20
Unverified...Reagan Airport is in Washington D.C.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1348331034925019137?s=20

Also unverified..

https://twitter.com/StollNews/status/1348331516401774594?s=20

Closing supposedly for a deep clean.....hmmm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/washington-air-traffic-control-center-reports-covid-case-temporarily-closes-faa-says/ar-BB1cD3wr?ocid=st

PurpleLama
10th January 2021, 22:22
http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-10-at-3.06.17-PM.png

Viking

Ron Watkins has only one social media account, now that his twitter is suspended. This is not it^

https://gab.com/codemonkey

pueblo
10th January 2021, 22:38
Unverified...Reagan Airport is in Washington D.C.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1348331034925019137?s=20

Also unverified..

https://twitter.com/StollNews/status/1348331516401774594?s=20

Closing supposedly for a deep clean.....hmmm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/washington-air-traffic-control-center-reports-covid-case-temporarily-closes-faa-says/ar-BB1cD3wr?ocid=st

Not totally convinced they shut down ATC just for a Covid positive controller.... That's quite a large amount of empty airspace...

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1348334393622990855?s=20

BoR
10th January 2021, 22:41
The president has communicated again. I received it via Telegram:

Proclamation on Honoring United States Capitol Police Officers

Issued on: January 10, 2021

As a sign of respect for the service and sacrifice of United States Capitol Police Officers Brian D. Sicknick and Howard Liebengood, and all Capitol Police Officers and law enforcement across this great Nation, by the authority vested in me as President of the United States by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby order that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff at the White House and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions until sunset, January 13, 2021.  I also direct that the flag shall be flown at half-staff for the same length of time at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this tenth day of January, in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty-one, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and forty-fifth.

—DONALD J. TRUMP

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-honoring-united-states-capitol-police-officers/

BoR
10th January 2021, 22:45
I mean, the app, not by telegraph 😄

Arcturian108
11th January 2021, 01:17
Unverified...Reagan Airport is in Washington D.C.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1348331034925019137?s=20

Also unverified..

https://twitter.com/StollNews/status/1348331516401774594?s=20

Closing supposedly for a deep clean.....hmmm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/washington-air-traffic-control-center-reports-covid-case-temporarily-closes-faa-says/ar-BB1cD3wr?ocid=st

Not totally convinced they shut down ATC just for a Covid positive controller.... That's quite a large amount of empty airspace...

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1348334393622990855?s=20

What this looks like to me is an effective way to prevent Congress men and women from returning easily to D.C. in order to impeach Trump beginning tomorrow. Usually congress people go home for the weekend. This could disrupt their return to D.C. rather easily

Eric J (Viking)
11th January 2021, 08:51
Hal Turner...

As most of you may be aware, attorney Sidney Powell, in her vast utterances about the stolen Presidential Election on November 3, claimed there would be vast numbers of arrests of very high profile people. She even made the odd remark that it would begin with something “Biblical.”

We also know, from General McInerny, that Italy apparently played some role in uplinking vote-altering commands to voting machines in the US, using the HMR and Scorecard intelligence community software. There are statements and court records supporting the claims that some type of severe election interference was perpetrated from iside Italy on November 3.

So these incidental facts may have something to do with the video we’re now seeing out of the Vatican.

HMMMMMMM.

More details if we get them!

Something is taking place at the Vatican in Rome. A very large motorcade of both marked and unmarked police vehicles has entered the city and it does not look like anything good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4hwAMsPv0o

___
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/something-big-is-happening-at-the-vatican-marked-and-unmarked-police-moving-in-big

TravelerJim
11th January 2021, 13:16
Its Monday morning here and I dont see anything which shows movement against the efforts on the part of the DS to take total control of media, govt, etc. Over the weekend, there were numerous stories of pushback and most were very silly. I am sure there are not 179k indictments ready to be unsealed, that the pope was arrested, etc.

In the meantime Big Tech is brazen in what they are doing, the Dems are moving ahead on this impeachment story, and a new bill about domestic terrorism. The vilification of all things Trump continues, it seems two women were kicked off a flight after they were heard supporting Trump, the PGA will no longer allow any of its matches to be played at a Trump facility, etc.

I can see only three parts of the power structure left to stop a complete takeover at this point. One is aspects of the intel community (not the cia, fbi, doj), one is the military, and one is the very opaque group of people who I think have guided the US for a very long time and who I cannot see benefiting from a Chinese/Communist takeover.

If there is something brewing those groups would not telegraph their moves, so who knows what the next few weeks hold.

What am I missing here?

mountain_jim
11th January 2021, 14:40
Have not seen any followup to indicate the reported signing of Insurrecton act by Trump actually happened, as was reported in a video RunningDeer linked to here

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis&p=1402922&viewfull=1#post1402922

Reports of troop movements into Washington and NYC are pretty solid, however that could be attributed to either side's reasons/interests in these areas.

One
11th January 2021, 16:49
11TH JANUARY SECOND UPDATE CURRENT NEWS
(In summary, any news of trump being dead is not true)
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ramus
11th January 2021, 18:49
Good Read ....and Listen .. Maria Zack

https://www.bitchute.com/video/AZvISq7ApPNJ/
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Proof: This Man & His Co-Conspirators Executed the Steal


https://newswithviews.com/category/opinions/



Proof: This Man & His Co-Conspirators Executed the Steal
By Devvy Kidd|January 11th, 2021
Click on name above to read more articles by this author

By: Devvy

The whole world saw the incident at the U.S. Capitol Building on January 6, 2021. The screeching by Lucifer’s Pimps immediately drowned the airwaves and Internet accusing President Trump of inciting violence. We know he did not:

“We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time, far longer than this four-year period.”

What happened at the Capitol was well planned and timed to completely disrupt the process of counting Electoral College votes. We know Fascists called ANTIFA were bused in, given a police escort to protect them. Those domestic terrorist thugs masqueraded as MAGA supporters and along with, sadly, patriotic Americans who got caught up in the moment, stormed the Capitol. Others outside breaking windows which Trump supporters tried to stop. Below this column are numerous articles and videos about what really happened.

Big tech immediately began their purge. Parler is now down after Apple and Google made their move. Americans exercising their First Amendment right to protest peacefully and who were not part of crashing the Capitol are being fired from their jobs. Children are ratting out their parents who attended. Welcome to Communist China.

Following the incident, Congress reconvened and Americans watched the total and complete betrayal by members of both parties. All of them blubbering about what happened. An affront to democracy! We must “save democracy”. MAGA supporters of President Trump were all broad painted as radical extremists – as were the heroes of the Revolutionary War who gave their lives to birth this constitutional republic.

Hypocrites vomiting up such violence has no place in this country, blah, blah, blah. Members of the Democrat/Communist Party USA who have openly supported the last eight months of destruction by Black Lies Movement and ANTIFA, couldn’t shut up. Elected Republicans across the country bellowed it was all President Trump’s fault so they could impress their constituents.

When the farce of counting Electoral College votes resumed, Republicans, independents and Democrats who voted for Trump watched the Club of Cowards betray this country and President Trump. Prior to the incident, 13 GOP senators pledged to stand up to the stealing of an election. They all knew that PA counted 205,000 more votes than eligible voters in the state. That there is an ocean of PROVABLE fraud.

Then they turned into cowards. Yellow-bellied cowards. Loeffler said she would not protest the Electoral College votes for either PA or AZ because of the orchestrated break-in of the Capitol. Despite the fact that proof showed Jan 5th during the run-off’s in GA, votes were switched that night, Loeffler and Perdue seem to have skulked off and do not intend to challenge their alleged loss; both have conceded. Knowing how the election was rigged in Nov., why would both of them not challenge the results? This makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Report: Dems ‘Bracing for Defeat’ in Georgia – Time for vote fraud to ensure they “win”.

Programming error on security keys” prompts “emergency ballot” use in Georgia Senate runoff – “Gabriel Sterling, Voting System Implementation Manager for the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, announced early Tuesday morning on Twitter that a “programming error on security keys” resulted in “backup emergency ballots” having to be brought in to Columbia County (located near Augusta) for the Georgia Senate runoff election.” Good to have those “emergency ballots” on hand when you need them.

Jan. 5th: IT Teams Teams Confirms Mail-In Ballots Were Received with Votes Already Filled In By Machine

Just like Nov. 3rd: As GOP Pulls Ahead in Georgia Senate Races, Democrat County Stops Counting Votes for the Night ILLEGAL under federal election law. Second county: Here We Go Again: DeKalb County Georgia is Re-Scanning Advance Ballots Because of ‘Memory Card Issue’ – “Scan em till you win em is Georgia’s motto.” If it was done after midnight that’s illegal under federal election law.

The other cowards who broke their word and betrayed America are:

Marsha Blackburn, R-TN, Class 1

Steve Daines, R-MT, Class II

James Lankford, R-OK, Class III – That mealy-mouthed, spineless toady said, “We are headed toward certification of Joe Biden as [president of the United States] and we will work together.” Work together with a man who stole the election through cheating and fraud? I damn well hope the people of Oklahoma remember your cowardice next primary time.

Ron Johnson, R-WI, Class III. On Dec. 16, 2020, Johnson chaired the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing on election fraud. He knew how bad it was yet he turned coward on Jan. 6, 2021.

Mike Braun, R-IN, Class 1

Bill Hagerty, R-TN, Class II

Terms for senators in Class I expire in 2025, Class II in 2027, and Class III in 2023

Storming the Capitol had NOTHING to do with the massive vote fraud in November. NOTHING. But those cowards, each and every one of them sent this message: We do not care the election was stolen. We know it was but we are going to condone it using the incident as an excuse. That’s like a brigade of fire fighters saying they’re not going to put out the fire because they don’t like the man who owns the warehouse.

Why would they crap on the Constitution, the American people and their own president? The answer is simple: Those remaining in the senate know if the didn’t fold like a tent, they won’t remain in the good graces of establishment RINOs who also betrayed President Trump.

If they didn’t play in the right sand box come election time, the machines will defeat them. If this stealing of an election is allowed to stand, no Republican will get re-elected again unless they betrayed this country on Jan. 6th. It will be near impossible to elect constitutional Republican candidates or Republicans at all.

Betray the American people so they can keep enriching themselves and family members just as did pedophile former speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert. They love power more than the truth and this country despite their flowery speeches and indignation. Instead of standing as did those who fought and died to give us our freedom as no other country on this earth enjoys, they gave their loyalty to Lucifer’s Democrat/Communist Party USA.

Their betrayal gave near total control to communists and socialists: The WH (Kamala Harris was ineligible to even be on the ballot but no one cares), the U.S. House and a 50-50 Senate – unless WE act TODAY. Amnesty for 30+ million illegal aliens, kill the oil industry, continue promoting murdering the unborn, kill free enterprise with new regulations, attempt to shove the hoax called climate change down our throats, ban on “assault” weapons, and keep gutting the Second Amendment and the list goes on.We have 9 days left to do everything we can or face HELL if China Joe gets in the WH. All the criminal activity by Biden and his son will be swept under the rug.

Zack recounted when she and her husband were at Mar-A-Lago for the annual Christmas dinner put on by President Trump and his wife. She said they stopped to speak with Trump and told him she was going to give him the best Christmas present he ever had then handed him a piece of paper. What she did say in this interview blows the whole thing wide open.

In a deposition in an Italian Federal Court, a former IT senior expert, Arturo D’Elia, at one of the world’s largest cyber security company’s in the world and partially owned by the Italian government, Leonardo SpA, gave a deposition outlining in detail how the steal was executed – by him.

As Zack says in the interview, this isn’t a smoking gun. We have the individual who pulled the trigger. She went on to say Sidney Powell, Lin Wood – they’ve all been trying to find the nugget which proves where, how and who and now it’s in the hands of members of Congress and likely some in the contested state legislatures.

Datawas loaded by Leonardo and sent to their satellites which then sent the data to Frankfort Germany – this would verify the CIA server farm in Frankfort was involved – and then the data sent to the U.S. Data that changed the vote count switching votes from Trump to Biden. It wasn’t just the six contested states, but 17. Leonardo, she said, has received ONE BILLION DOLLARS from U.S. taxpayers.

She also names Italy’s former PM and a senior staff member at the US Embassy were also involved in the most massive, well-coordinated stealing of an election in our history. She has more to say in that 31-minute video. Bombshell Report! Massive Dem Election Fraud Operation From Italy Revealed — President Trump Briefed On Proof – “The theft of the election was orchestrated in the Rome embassy…by an employee Stephan Serafini, a foreign service officer of over 20 years,” Zack said.” Do read the rest at link above.

Now, if you haven’t seen them, please watch the two videos below, read the affidavit and if your time permits the article below them and then return to this column. WE – everyone of us – must go after the legislatures in the six contested states TODAY. Jan. 20th is but nine days away. I’ve read credible reports Trump’s investigation is just about complete. The other day he said he would not attend the inauguration of career criminal China Joe Biden. The media went into a frenzy. But, what did he really mean? Perhaps he won’t attend because China Joe will not become the next president. I pray to God.

More in the article ... use link

OmeyocaN777
11th January 2021, 19:00
LIVE: President Trump To *Possibly* Speak This Afternoon
update: Trump Speaks in Alamo, TX 1/12/20

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Secretary Pompeo delivers remarks at Voice of America, in Washington, D.C.

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greybeard
11th January 2021, 19:31
Think these anticipated live talks have been hijacked -- prevented from being aired.
Chris

Eric J (Viking)
11th January 2021, 19:58
In this episode of The Silent War . . .

Trump and Everyone else is now banned from everything. Parler taken out for a week [maybe permanently] as well by Big Tech Collusion. Something Big Is Coming as Pelosi tries to Remove Trump immediately.

Dig in, Prepare for the Worst and Hope for the Best!


https://www.bitchute.com/video/sYLek4EBCrcn/

Viking

Eric J (Viking)
11th January 2021, 20:23
Not sure this has been confirmed or source....

45780

Viking

The Moss Trooper
11th January 2021, 20:26
This seems to be on the State Dept's official website.

45782

https://www.state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

???

Eric J (Viking)
11th January 2021, 20:31
This seems to be on the State Dept's official website.

45782

https://www.state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

???

Yes I was just reading that somewhere... the plot thickens.

Someone’s playing games...

Edit...I think the site has gone down

Viking

OmeyocaN777
11th January 2021, 20:34
President Trump Impeachment BLOCKED By House GOP

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The Moss Trooper
11th January 2021, 20:35
This seems to be on the State Dept's official website.

45782

https://www.state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

???

Yes I was just reading that somewhere... the plot thickens.

Someone’s playing games...

Edit...I think the site has gone down

Viking

I currently have it open on a tab, think I'll keep it there just in case.

Icare
11th January 2021, 20:41
This seems to be on the State Dept's official website.

45782

https://www.state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

???

Yes I was just reading that somewhere... the plot thickens.

Someone’s playing games...

Edit...I think the site has gone down

Viking

I currently have it open on a tab, think I'll keep it there just in case.

If you still have it, could you kindly copy it and show it here? The link no longer works and I have no idea what this is abaout.

Eric J (Viking)
11th January 2021, 20:50
Well they’re both here together...Simon and Charlie...

I sincerely hope these guys are spot on...

One things for sure....if Trump is not president after the 20th both Parkes and Ward are history...no excuses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5q73_Wbz9Y

Viking

The Moss Trooper
11th January 2021, 20:51
This seems to be on the State Dept's official website.

45782

https://www.state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

???

Yes I was just reading that somewhere... the plot thickens.

Someone’s playing games...

Edit...I think the site has gone down

Viking

I currently have it open on a tab, think I'll keep it there just in case.

If you still have it, could you kindly copy it and show it here? The link no longer works and I have no idea what this is abaout.

The image in my post 1895, above. It states that Trump's term ended today at 19:40:41.

Anyway, this seems to be being blamed on a "disgruntled staffer".


UPDATE: Sources tell @BuzzFeedNews a "disgruntled staffer" is behind the State Department site's change of Trump and Pence's biographies. More TK.

Karen (Geophyz)
11th January 2021, 20:52
This seems to be on the State Dept's official website.

45782

https://www.state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

???

This is not true. Look at the page, it has clearly been edited. I went to the State official site and there is no biography for Donald Trump or any other president that I could find. And if you remove the Donald J Trump part you wind up at the biographies of Pakistan Women.

Later I tried to return to the site and it had been taken down.

One
11th January 2021, 20:52
Think these anticipated live talks have been hijacked -- prevented from being aired.
Chris

I saw the Pompeo one and there is a countdown for trump at 8pm UK time tomorrow.

Pompeo talk was fairly low key. No massive revelations, but went into ccp problem and the erosion of freedom of speech etc. Reassuring in the sense it felt very much business as usual and vague about the next administration.

Eric J (Viking)
11th January 2021, 20:53
This seems to be on the State Dept's official website.

45782

https://www.state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

???

Yes I was just reading that somewhere... the plot thickens.

Someone’s playing games...

Edit...I think the site has gone down

Viking

I currently have it open on a tab, think I'll keep it there just in case.

If you still have it, could you kindly copy it and show it here? The link no longer works and I have no idea what this is abaout.

Update here...

NEW: U.S. State Department website mistakenly says Trump’s term ended. BuzzFeed News said “disgruntled staffers” was behind the changes (views: 1)

Viking

The Moss Trooper
11th January 2021, 20:53
Well they’re both here together...Simon and Charlie...

I sincerely hope these guys are spot on...

One things for sure....if Trump is not president after the 20th both Parkes and Ward are history...no excuses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5q73_Wbz9Y

Viking


Parkes......... He really is a cat with 9 lives isn't he.

Do people really believe he has "secret intel sources" deep in the bowels of Gubment?

I mean, really believe? Is it coz he's now saying stuff that people want to hear? Is that it??

I wouldn't trust him to tell me what day it is. He's a proven liar, proven.

But, yer pays yer money and yer takes yer choices.

The Moss Trooper
11th January 2021, 20:57
This seems to be on the State Dept's official website.

45782

https://www.state.gov/biographies/donald-j-trump/

???

This is not true. Look at the page, it has clearly been edited. I went to the State official site and there is no biography for Donald Trump or any other president that I could find. And if you remove the Donald J Trump part you wind up at the biographies of Pakistan Women.

Later I tried to return to the site and it had been taken down.

I still have it open from earlier, sure looks like the legit State Dept. site......... "sources" are now saying it was a disgruntled State Dept. staffer who edited and mixed Trump and Pence's biographies.

I dunno......... It's the first time I've brought anything to this gun fight, and it'll be the bloody last....... It's cocoa-moloko all of this, absolute madness.

The World has literally, gone Nutz.

One
11th January 2021, 21:00
Parkes......... He really is a cat with 9 lives isn't he.

Do people really believe he has "secret intel sources" deep in the bowels of Gubment?

I mean, really believe?

Not believe. Hoping perhaps....

TargeT
11th January 2021, 21:02
Not sure this has been confirmed or source....

45780

Viking

his account isn't @teamrumpnews so that's not real most likely

The Moss Trooper
11th January 2021, 21:03
Parkes......... He really is a cat with 9 lives isn't he.

Do people really believe he has "secret intel sources" deep in the bowels of Gubment?

I mean, really believe?

Not believe. Hoping perhaps....

Aye....... You see, that's the thing with us humans, even in the face of fact, if we like what we hear..............

Mutability, it is our curse but also our greatest hope.

mountain_jim
11th January 2021, 21:05
https://twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1348732597875011584?s=20

1348732597875011584


https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1348731076517244928?s=20

1348731076517244928

One
11th January 2021, 21:21
Magenta Pixie dream related to Simon Parkes et al video (the scary part).
spVj7Sh5IE8

Sue (Ayt)
11th January 2021, 21:27
NEW: U.S. State Department website mistakenly says Trump’s term ended. BuzzFeed News said “disgruntled staffers” was behind the changes (views: 1)

Viking
When I posted the link to that page on Discord, this came up:

45783
The name on top is Tianna Hutchins. A search on her name revealed some links when I switched her name to Tiana Hutchins.

She could be the disgruntled employee? (ACLU and BLM involvement)
https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/tiana-hutchins-and-her-lawyer-robert-plotkin-who-are-part-news-photo/109900247
https://www.facebook.com/tiana.hutchins.90
https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCOURTS-caDC-96-07239/USCOURTS-caDC-96-07239-0

The Moss Trooper
11th January 2021, 21:30
NEW: U.S. State Department website mistakenly says Trump’s term ended. BuzzFeed News said “disgruntled staffers” was behind the changes (views: 1)

Viking
When I posted the link to that page on Discord, this came up:

45783
The name on top is Tianna Hutchins. A search on her name revealed some links when I switched her name to Tiana Hutchins.

She could be the disgruntled employee? (ACLU and BLM involvement)
https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/tiana-hutchins-and-her-lawyer-robert-plotkin-who-are-part-news-photo/109900247
https://www.facebook.com/tiana.hutchins.90
https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/USCOURTS-caDC-96-07239/USCOURTS-caDC-96-07239-0

That is an A+ from me, not that that means anything, but that's some good old fashioned knuckling-down fact hunting skills on display there.

Top notch!

Olam
11th January 2021, 21:33
Well they’re both here together...Simon and Charlie...

I sincerely hope these guys are spot on...

One things for sure....if Trump is not president after the 20th both Parkes and Ward are history...no excuses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5q73_Wbz9Y

Viking

Can anyone point me to the lady's website?

greybeard
11th January 2021, 21:39
Well they’re both here together...Simon and Charlie...

I sincerely hope these guys are spot on...

One things for sure....if Trump is not president after the 20th both Parkes and Ward are history...no excuses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5q73_Wbz9Y

Viking

If they are history so are we.
The latest UK Column News is as usual well researched.
The UK Gov is planning to allow people to leave home only once a week --thats on Yahoo.
Link for UK Column News posted here
There is a bit about the USA election on it too

Chris
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110505-Covid19-Global-reports-news-and-updates&p=1403048&viewfull=1#post1403048

Eric J (Viking)
11th January 2021, 21:47
Well they’re both here together...Simon and Charlie...

I sincerely hope these guys are spot on...

One things for sure....if Trump is not president after the 20th both Parkes and Ward are history...no excuses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5q73_Wbz9Y

Viking

Can anyone point me to the lady's website?

She’s on Facebook...

Viking

Apulu
11th January 2021, 22:24
Well they’re both here together...Simon and Charlie...

I sincerely hope these guys are spot on...

One things for sure....if Trump is not president after the 20th both Parkes and Ward are history...no excuses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5q73_Wbz9Y

Viking


I don't post much here on Avalon historically (or anywhere for that matter), but I'm beginning to feel compelled to, more than a bit, recently. This whole emerging scenario is just so off the scale... nuts. No matter what your viewpoint or beliefs about it are, it's just... no words. First covid, and now this. Flipping heck.

I feel grateful to Avalon as a whole and to the many regular posters who obviously spend a huge amount of time trying their best to keep track of things, and I'm especially grateful recently.

I've been glued to this and other threads on the election since November 3rd, and I'm quoting the above video because I think it does a pretty good job of summarising one extreme end of things. You've also said something there Viking along the lines of what's been on my mind for a while now.

I'm pretty excited: whatever happens now, this all seems immensely significant. For many reasons, obviously, but what happens in the next 10 days or so is absolutely pivotal.

At the Simon Parkes/Q sorry of end of the spectrum... if all this stuff really starts to play out like 'the sources' would have us believe, then, obviously, we are in for some earth shattering spectacles, and an immense amount of change. All over the place. Great. Flipping heck.

And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?

I look forward to seeing what discussions come or of all this, if nothing like what's in the above video transpires. I really do. I would be extremely surprised if things do turn out like in the video and elsewhere (and I would love it if they did) and if things don't.... God almighty It's not just the likes of Parkes and Q and probably many others who are going to come under immense scrutiny. It's going to be accepting of our entire willingness to be so wishfully thinking, and scrutiny of our investment so much in what happens 'out there'. Perhaps.

It's been so fascinating, regardless of what comes out of it.

And it's been very tempting for me to think that some real change might actually happen out of it.... and it still might... I think for the moment I'm now pretty much back to the notion that I am the only initiator of real, positive change in my life. I hold the keys to my own universe! 🙂

TargeT
11th January 2021, 22:33
And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?



oh, we've done this before... remember Atticus, 2012, etc.... haha


I'm sure it will be absorbed until the next fun situation drops... seems cyclic (though I'd like to think this time its legit, won't be super surprised if it's not) honestly almost all of this stuff (until covid) never really effected me personally, so it's hard to be too committed.

The Moss Trooper
11th January 2021, 22:38
And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?



oh, we've done this before... remember Atticus, 2012, etc.... haha


I'm sure it will be absorbed until the next fun situation drops... seems cyclic (though I'd like to think this time its legit, won't be super surprised if it's not) honestly almost all of this stuff (until covid) never really effected me personally, so it's hard to be too committed.

Granted, but you have to admit, this is way, way bigger than Charles/Atticus. That was only a "thing" in the alt community, this is global really....... Whatever transpires has the potential to effect humanity, for better or worse.

Gracy
11th January 2021, 22:49
At the Simon Parkes/Q sorry of end of the spectrum... if all this stuff really starts to play out like 'the sources' would have us believe, then, obviously, we are in for some earth shattering spectacles, and an immense amount of change. All over the place. Great. Flipping heck.

And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?

It should be, but it won't. No matter how many of these fantastical takes and predictions continue to flame out like the Hindenburg, I seldom see anyone taken to account for it. It's friendly information, gives hope, so therefore not questioned or challenged.

It's just onto the next phase of the big ride. I expect the music to continue right on through the inauguration of this new president, with new and updated "insider information" like this was of course the plan all along, now the bastards are really going to pay, this was all part of the plan, and the trap is really about to spring now just you wait and see.

So long as the "like" buttons keep on getting mashed, and the dollars from Patreon keep on rolling in anyway.

Apulu
11th January 2021, 23:00
And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?



oh, we've done this before... remember Atticus, 2012, etc.... haha


I'm sure it will be absorbed until the next fun situation drops... seems cyclic (though I'd like to think this time its legit, won't be super surprised if it's not) honestly almost all of this stuff (until covid) never really effected me personally, so it's hard to be too committed.

Ha that stuff kind of did cross my mind yeah... absorbed is the right word. Hopefully not.

It's been really hard for me to stay neutral on all this certainly - I get to thinking I am and then the next wave of bull**it of whatever comes tumbling out and... the UK has gone beserk.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



At the Simon Parkes/Q sorry of end of the spectrum... if all this stuff really starts to play out like 'the sources' would have us believe, then, obviously, we are in for some earth shattering spectacles, and an immense amount of change. All over the place. Great. Flipping heck.

And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?

It should be, but it won't. No matter how many of these fantastical takes and predictions continue to flame out like the Hindenburg, I seldom see anyone taken to account for it. It's friendly information, gives hope, so therefore not questioned or challenged.

It's just onto the next phase of the big ride. I expect the music to continue right on through the inauguration of this new president, with new and updated "insider information" like this was of course the plan all along, now the bastards are really going to pay, this was all part of the plan, and the trap is really about to spring now just you wait and see.

So long as the "like" buttons keep on getting mashed, and the dollars from Patreon keep on rolling in anyway.


You might be right. This just seems so massive... perhaps not...

One
11th January 2021, 23:25
3rd Parkes update of the day for those who are still listening like me.
rqru4ryBKlnn

SilentFeathers
11th January 2021, 23:28
At the Simon Parkes/Q sorry of end of the spectrum... if all this stuff really starts to play out like 'the sources' would have us believe, then, obviously, we are in for some earth shattering spectacles, and an immense amount of change. All over the place. Great. Flipping heck.

And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?

It should be, but it won't. No matter how many of these fantastical takes and predictions continue to flame out like the Hindenburg, I seldom see anyone taken to account for it. It's friendly information, gives hope, so therefore not questioned or challenged.

It's just onto the next phase of the big ride. I expect the music to continue right on through the inauguration of this new president, with new and updated "insider information" like this was of course the plan all along, now the bastards are really going to pay, this was all part of the plan, and the trap is really about to spring now just you wait and see.

So long as the "like" buttons keep on getting mashed, and the dollars from Patreon keep on rolling in anyway.

....or one of the main players will trip, fall, and bump their head, thus creating a whole new timeline and changing the whole course of events, thus delaying the "mass arrest event" once again.

This whole claim of mass arrests just keeps playing out over and over, year after year, and nothing ever happens. Folks really just need to pay attention to what's really happening and use their own intuition, logic, reason, and common sense.

Gracy
11th January 2021, 23:33
At the Simon Parkes/Q sorry of end of the spectrum... if all this stuff really starts to play out like 'the sources' would have us believe, then, obviously, we are in for some earth shattering spectacles, and an immense amount of change. All over the place. Great. Flipping heck.

And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?


It should be, but it won't. No matter how many of these fantastical takes and predictions continue to flame out like the Hindenburg, I seldom see anyone taken to account for it. It's friendly information, gives hope, so therefore not questioned or challenged.

It's just onto the next phase of the big ride. I expect the music to continue right on through the inauguration of this new president, with new and updated "insider information" like this was of course the plan all along, now the bastards are really going to pay, this was all part of the plan, and the trap is really about to spring now just you wait and see.

So long as the "like" buttons keep on getting mashed, and the dollars from Patreon keep on rolling in anyway.


You might be right. This just seems so massive... perhaps not...
The fortunate thing is that what we think doesn't really matter here, we can watch how all of this supposed "super secret insider information", and the ever prevalent predictions, play out before us in a very brief window of time. We need not wait for umpteen years like before, so we can all easily keep tally together.

Do we take note of inconsistencies and adjust accordingly? Or do we excuse and explain them away, because they're music to our ears?

Apulu
12th January 2021, 00:12
At the Simon Parkes/Q sorry of end of the spectrum... if all this stuff really starts to play out like 'the sources' would have us believe, then, obviously, we are in for some earth shattering spectacles, and an immense amount of change. All over the place. Great. Flipping heck.

And if it doesn't play out like that? Simply IF Trump doesn't get back in? Should that not be one of the biggest wake up calls that Avalon and 'the alternative' community at large could possibly ever have?


It should be, but it won't. No matter how many of these fantastical takes and predictions continue to flame out like the Hindenburg, I seldom see anyone taken to account for it. It's friendly information, gives hope, so therefore not questioned or challenged.

It's just onto the next phase of the big ride. I expect the music to continue right on through the inauguration of this new president, with new and updated "insider information" like this was of course the plan all along, now the bastards are really going to pay, this was all part of the plan, and the trap is really about to spring now just you wait and see.

So long as the "like" buttons keep on getting mashed, and the dollars from Patreon keep on rolling in anyway.


You might be right. This just seems so massive... perhaps not...
The fortunate thing is that what we think doesn't really matter here, we can watch how all of this supposed "super secret insider information", and the ever prevalent predictions, play out before us in a very brief window of time. We need not wait for umpteen years like before, so we can all easily keep tally together.

Do we take note of inconsistencies and adjust accordingly? Or do we excuse and explain them away, because they're music to our ears?


Indeed.

That's been my thinking yeah - that this small window of time and the seeming immensity of what's at stake within that small window of time seems to make this a bit special. The Parkes of this world have put a load on the line here and a huge emphasis on Trump getting back in.

Tick tock... 🙂


3rd Parkes update of the day for those who are still listening like me.
rqru4ryBKlnn

That's about the juiciest one yet... he's been on the phone to Q now... whether utter nonsense or 100% true... this is fascinating... and, forgive me, it's kind of hilarious either way...

thepainterdoug
12th January 2021, 00:50
Gracy May and all / Ill tell you what. I for one am not delusional or a dreamer. I will follow a trail to the end, but once I truly find out theres nothing, I wont keep dreming. I got better things to do.

Theres a profoud moment in the film Ad Astra with Brad Pitt and Tommy L Jones. At the end after the father has given up everything, his family, a normal life and a lifetime, dedicating it all to find Alien intelligence out in deep space , his son B Pitt journeys to find him and finally says, camon Dad, lets go home.
You succeeded. At least you found out. We now know we are truly on our own .
i love this part.

Should all this trully flame out as Gracy says, I will re assess my entire approach to all this. And let go of what doesnt play for me. Its called growth. But at least i took the journey.

and i will take time, reflect and explore the deeper inside me. .

and btw, as of now, CRICKETS....

TargeT
12th January 2021, 00:53
That's about the juiciest one yet... he's been on the phone to Q now... whether utter nonsense or 100% true... this is fascinating... and, forgive me, it's kind of hilarious either way...

yup..... ridiculous

alh02
12th January 2021, 00:53
Latest Telegram message from Sidney Powell....

President Trump Declares State of Emergency in DC (https://t.me/SidneyPowell1/1068)

OmeyocaN777
12th January 2021, 01:05
Disclose.tv
@disclosetv
JUST IN - President Trump declares an emergency exists in the District of Columbia in DC.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1348791306747850753
1348791306747850753

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-approves-district-columbia-emergency-declaration/

Ernie Nemeth
12th January 2021, 01:32
I wonder what Trump is thinking in whatever bunker he is presently hiding in. He does not have many options. No good ones in my estimation, anyway.

Consider how he is backed into a corner. The President of the United States, stripped of an official voice, hobbled by controversy, and betrayed by almost everyone around him. His family is under threat, his business is being targeted, he is de-platformed, and in ten days he becomes fair game for anyone left who has not yet taken aim. No way can he go back to normal life; there is a good chance his life and that of his family will be under constant threat.

He cannot concede because that will only hasten what is inevitable. He can't rally support because he has been silenced and made a pariah.

But, he did have enough foresight of things to come to enact an Executive Order in 2018. Almost as if he knew what would happen. Almost as if he had planned it.

Trump has no alternative but to go all in just as the globalists have done. One side is going down.

The crux of the matter is either there is absolutely no evidence of fraud or there absolutely is evidence of fraud. That question now must be resolved. It won't go away on its own and Trump and the globalists know it.

Either Trump is destroyed, with no possibility of a return in 2024 and with the question of fraud safely buried without investigation, or the evidence of fraud will be proven for all to see. No other option remains.

Who forced whose hand is debatable.

The end result is not.

Truth lives or dies in the next ten days.

So many more than 70,000,000 Americans and countless others around the world wait to see what world they can expect to reside in tomorrow. Their future actions will depend on the outcome.

OmeyocaN777
12th January 2021, 01:50
(Is very possible the Antifa false-flag operations will continue... which explains the latest move from Trump and maybe there is some more to it...)

WARNING: DO NOT ATTEND Armed Protests at State Capitols Before Inauguration! – POSSIBLE SINISTER PLOT HATCHED BY RADICAL LEFT TO TAKE AWAY GUN RIGHTS!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/warning-not-attend-armed-protests-state-capitols-inauguration-possible-sinister-plot-hatched-radical-left-take-away-gun-rights/

T Smith
12th January 2021, 01:51
It's just onto the next phase of the big ride. I expect the music to continue right on through the inauguration of this new president, with new and updated "insider information" like this was of course the plan all along, now the bastards are really going to pay, this was all part of the plan, and the trap is really about to spring now just you wait and see.



Perhaps, but it won't at all be at believable. If you can't make inroads or breakup the corruption with the resources of the military and power and office of POTUS, it ain't gonna happen. Ever. The moment is now or never.

As far as the alt-community credibility after pushing this narrative after some resolution is said and done, whether their narratives turn out to be hopium, fantasy, or intel on what might happen over the next ten days, I maintain this is an epic struggle behind the scenes the likes of which none of us can fathom. Biden may well be inaugurated on January 20, but that doesn't mean the battle wasn't real. It just means Team Patriots lost...

Operator
12th January 2021, 02:02
---
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-approves-district-columbia-emergency-declaration/


due to the emergency conditions resulting from the 59th Presidential Inauguration from January 11 to January 24, 2021.

Is this indeed unusual or a regular measure as always before ?

T Smith
12th January 2021, 02:10
I wonder what Trump is thinking in whatever bunker he is presently hiding in. He does not have many options. No good ones in my estimation, anyway.

Consider how he is backed into a corner. The President of the United States, stripped of an official voice, hobbled by controversy, and betrayed by almost everyone around him. His family is under threat, his business is being targeted, he is de-platformed, and in ten days he becomes fair game for anyone left who has not yet taken aim. No way can he go back to normal life; there is a good chance his life and that of his family will be under constant threat.

He cannot concede because that will only hasten what is inevitable. He can't rally support because he has been silenced and made a pariah.

But, he did have enough foresight of things to come to enact an Executive Order in 2018. Almost as if he knew what would happen. Almost as if he had planned it.

Trump has no alternative but to go all in just as the globalists have done. One side is going down.

The crux of the matter is either there is absolutely no evidence of fraud or there absolutely is evidence of fraud. That question now must be resolved. It won't go away on its own and Trump and the globalists know it.

Either Trump is destroyed, with no possibility of a return in 2024 and with the question of fraud safely buried without investigation, or the evidence of fraud will be proven for all to see. No other option remains.

Who forced whose hand is debatable.

The end result is not.

Truth lives or dies in the next ten days.

So many more than 70,000,000 Americans and countless others around the world wait to see what world they can expect to reside in tomorrow. Their future actions will depend on the outcome.

Wow Ernie... that was a brilliant post. What immediately comes to mind is the passage from 1984 that echoes exactly what you're describing if Team Trump fails:

...In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy..." George Orwell, 1984


The world awaits....

Arcturian108
12th January 2021, 02:27
---
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-approves-district-columbia-emergency-declaration/


due to the emergency conditions resulting from the 59th Presidential Inauguration from January 11 to January 24, 2021.

Is this indeed unusual or a regular measure as always before ?

Totally irregular. Usually there is no noticeable military protection surrounding an inauguration.

OmeyocaN777
12th January 2021, 02:40
---
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-approves-district-columbia-emergency-declaration/


due to the emergency conditions resulting from the 59th Presidential Inauguration from January 11 to January 24, 2021.

Is this indeed unusual or a regular measure as always before ?

Totally irregular. Usually there is no noticeable military protection surrounding an inauguration.

CK Rushing
@ck_rushing

@AveryisLooser
@disclosetv
It’s preemptive, and it was at the request of the Mayor of DC. It’s a formality that they do when there have been threats. They are getting out ahead of it.

https://twitter.com/ck_rushing/status/1348792789509656576
1348792789509656576

thepainterdoug
12th January 2021, 04:09
State of Emergency gives way to enacting Fema. Fema camps for the criminals :clapping:

greybeard
12th January 2021, 04:28
I would say that I am not a member of the alt community
I am not a conspiracy theorist -- my normal place here is in the spiritual section.
It takes a lot to get me out of there and its because my family is being greatly affected by lockdown ---threat of imposed vaccination and their homes under financial threat that im posting here and active in my community.

Lets not loose sight of why we are posting here.

In God I trust but lock up your camel at night --so to speak.
May the rights of individual freedom win.
The right of free expression
The right to be different without fear
May common law be established
May Peace, love, harmony and all that is good be the normal in this world.
Chris

DeDukshyn
12th January 2021, 05:07
Disclose.tv
@disclosetv
JUST IN - President Trump declares an emergency exists in the District of Columbia in DC.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1348791306747850753
1348791306747850753

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-approves-district-columbia-emergency-declaration/

Re: state of emergency ...

So from what it appears, the FBI has determined that there is a high risk of violence and riots surrounding the inauguration and have been reporting of the dangers. Trump has declared a state of emergency in DC - being reported that the reasoning is because of the high risk of violence and rioting.

I am also hearing that he declared this state of emergency so that the secret cabal, Biden, Pelosi, etc. can be arrested? Or ... what? Where's the evidence that the state of emergency was called for reasons other than the high risk of violence and riots (which there obviously is)?

What do you guys think? Do we have anything more substantial than a "grasping at some sort of hope"-like speculation to appease "our" emotions? Or am I misreading all this? (not just on this thread but I chose to comment here)

Blastolabs
12th January 2021, 07:03
I have not seen anything about the meeting of the house today, it seems as if lots was said that is relevant here I'll include what I found that seems important but I don't read legal documents often and it is very long, the full document is here

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/8/text





(1) ESTABLISHMENT.—In rule II, add at the end the following new clauses:


“Office of the Whistleblower Ombuds
“10.(a) There is established an Office of the Whistleblower Ombuds. The Speaker, in consultation with the chairs and ranking minority members of the Committee on House Administration and the Committee on Oversight and Reform, shall appoint a Director of the Office.
“(b) Subject to the policy direction and oversight of the Committee on House Administration, and in consultation with any other committee (at the request of the chair or ranking minority member of such other committee), the Office of the Whistleblower Ombuds shall—
“(1) promulgate best practices for whistleblower intake for offices of the House; and
“(2)
“provide training for offices of the House on whistleblower intake, including establishing an effective reporting system for whistleblowers, maintaining whistleblower confidentiality, advising staff of relevant laws and policies, and protecting information provided by whistleblowers.”.




(f) Committee On Armed Services.—In clause 1(c) of rule X—

(1) in subparagraph (1) strike “and Air Force” and insert “Marine Corps, Air Force, and Space Force”; and

(2) in subparagraph (13), strike “and Air Force” and insert “Air Force, and Space Force”.

(l) Electronic Filing Of Reports And Electronic Signatures.—

(1) In clause 2(l) of rule XI, insert “(including in electronic form)” after “signed views”.

(2) In clause 2(a) of rule XIII—

(A) in subparagraph (1), strike “subparagraph (2)” and insert “subparagraphs (2) and (3)”; and

(B) add the following new subparagraph:

“(3) All reports of committees may be delivered to the Clerk in electronic form.”.
(3) In clause 5(b) of rule XIII, insert “, pursuant to clause 2(a)(3), or pursuant to clause 2(c),” after “from the floor”.

(4) In clause 5 of rule XXV, insert “(including in electronic form)” after “signed” each place that it appears.

(5) In clause 1 of rule XXVII, insert “(including in electronic form)” after “signed”.

(m) Subpoena Authority.—In clause 2(m)(3) of rule XI, add the following new subdivision:

“(D) Subpoenas for documents or testimony may be issued to any person or entity, whether governmental, public, or private, within the United States, including, but not limited to, the President, and the Vice President, whether current or former, in a personal or official capacity, as well as the White House, the Office of the President, the Executive Office of the President, and any individual currently or formerly employed in the White House, Office of the President, or Executive Office of the President.”.

(r) Requiring Committee Hearing And Markup On Bills And Joint Resolutions.—

(1) In clause 3(c) of rule XIII, add the following new subparagraph:

“(6)(A) On a bill or joint resolution to be considered pursuant to a special order of business reported by the Committee on Rules—
“(i) a list of related committee and subcommittee hearings; and
“(ii)
“a designation of at least one committee or subcommittee hearing that was used to develop or consider such bill or joint resolution.

“(B) Subdivision (A) shall not apply to a bill or joint resolution—
“(i) continuing appropriations for a fiscal year; or
“(ii) containing an emergency designation under section 251(b)(2) or section 252(e) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.”.
(2) In rule XXI, add at the end the following new clause:

“12.(a) It shall not be in order to consider a bill or joint resolution pursuant to a special order of business reported by the Committee on Rules that has not been reported by a committee.
“(b) Paragraph (a) shall not apply to a bill or joint resolution—
“(1) continuing appropriations for a fiscal year;
“(2) containing an emergency designation under section 251(b)(2) or section 252(e) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985;
“(3) designated pursuant to clause 7(a) of rule XV; or
“(4) not referred to committee.
“(c) Paragraph (a) does not apply before March 1 of an odd-numbered year.”.

(y) Code Of Official Conduct.—In rule XXIII—

(1) redesignate clause 20 as clause 22; and

(2) insert after clause 19 the following new clauses:

“20. A Member, Delegate, Resident Commissioner, officer, or employee of the House may not, directly or indirectly, take any actions to prevent any individual from or retaliate against any individual for providing truthful information to the Committee on Ethics, the Office of Congressional Ethics, the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights, or any law enforcement official, provided that the disclosure of such information is not otherwise prohibited by law or House rules.
“21.(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c), a Member, Delegate, Resident Commissioner, officer, or employee of the House shall not knowingly and willfully disclose publicly the identity of, or personally identifiable information about, any individual who has reported allegations of possible wrongdoing, including retaliation, under processes and protections provided by the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, the Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989, the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998, or any other Federal law that establishes the right for individuals to make protected disclosures to Congress.
“(b) The limitation in paragraph (a) shall not apply to any disclosure of an individual’s identity or personally identifiable information if—
“(1) the individual has provided express written consent prior to such disclosure;
“(2) the individual has already voluntarily and publicly disclosed their identity; or
“(3) the disclosure is by the chair of a committee after an affirmative vote by two-thirds of the members of the committee that such disclosure is in the public interest.
“(c) Nothing in this clause shall prevent—
“(1) an investigation of any allegation of wrongdoing disclosed by any individual; or
“(2) the public disclosure of substantive information shared by any individual that is not personally identifiable to that individual.
“(d) Disclosures made pursuant to paragraph (b)(3) shall be subject to appropriate safeguards, including that the individual be provided timely advance notice if possible before their identity or any personally identifiable information is disclosed prior to the vote described in paragraph (b)(3), unless such information would jeopardize the related investigations. When providing such notice to the individual the committee chair shall send the individual a written explanation of the reasons for the disclosure.”.
(z) Communications Standards Commission.—In clause 5 of rule XXIV, strike “Commission on Congressional Mailing Standards” and insert “Communications Standards Commission”.

SEC. 3. SEPARATE ORDERS.

(a) Member Day Hearing Requirement.—During the first session of the One Hundred Seventeenth Congress, each standing committee (other than the Committee on Ethics) or each subcommittee thereof (other than a subcommittee on oversight) shall hold a hearing at which it receives testimony from Members, Delegates, and the Resident Commissioner on proposed legislation within its jurisdiction, except that the Committee on Rules may hold such hearing during the second session of the One Hundred Seventeenth Congress.

(b) Deposition Authority.—

(1) During the One Hundred Seventeenth Congress, the chair of a standing committee (other than the Committee on Rules), and the chair of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, upon consultation with the ranking minority member of such committee, may order the taking of depositions, including pursuant to subpoena, by a member or counsel of such committee.

(2) Depositions taken under the authority prescribed in this subsection shall be subject to regulations issued by the chair of the Committee on Rules and printed in the Congressional Record.

(c) War Powers Resolution.—During the One Hundred Seventeenth Congress, a motion to discharge a measure introduced pursuant to section 6 or section 7 of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1545–46) shall not be subject to a motion to table.

(d) Exercise Facilities For Former Members.—During the One Hundred Seventeenth Congress—

(1) The House of Representatives may not provide access to any exercise facility which is made available exclusively to Members and former Members, officers and former officers of the House of Representatives, and their spouses to any former Member, former officer, or spouse who is a lobbyist registered under the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995 or any successor statute or who is an agent of a foreign principal as defined in clause 5 of rule XXV. For purposes of this subsection, the term “Member” includes a Delegate or Resident Commissioner to the Congress.

(2) The Committee on House Administration shall promulgate regulations to carry out this subsection.

(e) Empaneling Investigative Subcommittee Of The Committee On Ethics.—The text of House Resolution 451, One Hundred Tenth Congress, shall apply in the One Hundred Seventeenth Congress in the same manner as such provision applied in the One Hundred Tenth Congress, except that references to the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct shall be construed as references to the Committee on Ethics.

(f) Non-Disclosure Agreements.—Any non-disclosure agreement imposed by any employing or contracting authority in the House of Representatives to which a paid or unpaid employee or contractor is or was required to agree as a term of employment shall—

(1) provide clear guidance that the employee or contractor may communicate concerning any matter with the Committee on Ethics, the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights, or any other office or entity designated by the Committee on House Administration without prior, concurrent, or subsequent notice or approval; and

(2) not be binding and shall have no legal effect to the extent to which it requires prior, concurrent, or subsequent notice or approval from anyone on any matter with respect to communications from an employee or contractor to any of the committees, offices, or entities described in paragraph (1).

(g) Requiring Members To Pay For Discrimination Settlements.—

(1) IN GENERAL.—In the case of a settlement of a complaint under the Congressional Accountability Act of 1995 in connection with a claim alleging a violation described in paragraph (2) which is committed personally by a Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner, if the Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner is not required under law to reimburse the Treasury for the amount of the settlement, the chair and ranking minority member of the Committee on House Administration may not approve the settlement pursuant to clause 4(d)(2) of rule X unless, under the terms and conditions of the settlement, the Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner is required to reimburse the Treasury for the amount of the settlement.


(a) (1) On any legislative day during the period from January 3, 2021 through January 28, 2021—

(A) the Journal of the proceedings of the previous day shall be considered as approved; and

(B) the Chair may at any time declare the House adjourned to meet at a date and time, within the limits of clause 4, section 5, article I of the Constitution, to be announced by the Chair in declaring the adjournment.

(2) The Speaker may appoint Members to perform the duties of the Chair for the duration of the period addressed by paragraph (1) as though under clause 8(a) of rule I.

(3) Each day during the period addressed by paragraph (1) shall not constitute a calendar day for purposes of section 7 of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1546).

(4) Each day during the period addressed by paragraph (1) shall not constitute a legislative day for purposes of clause 7 of rule XIII.

(5) Each day during the period addressed by paragraph (1) shall not constitute a calendar or legislative day for purposes of clause 7(c)(1) of rule XXII.

(6) Each day during the period addressed by paragraph (1) shall not constitute a legislative day for purposes of clause 7 of rule XV.

(b) It shall be in order at any time through the legislative day of January 28, 2021, for the Speaker to entertain motions that the House suspend the rules as though under clause 1 of rule XV. The Speaker or her designee shall consult with the Minority Leader or his designee on the designation of any matter for consideration pursuant to this subsection.

(c) The requirement of clause 6(a) of rule XIII for a two-thirds vote to consider a report from the Committee on Rules on the same day it is presented to the House is waived with respect to any resolution reported through the legislative day of January 28, 2021.

Journeyman
12th January 2021, 07:58
State of Emergency gives way to enacting Fema. Fema camps for the criminals :clapping:

Doesn't this give you a chill though Doug? I see this and think of the famous Pastor Neimuller quote 'first they came for the jews and I didn't speak up for I was not a jew' etc... I don't want a world of FEMA camps, military tribunals, executions etc. even for those who are the worst of us. I want due process, the right of appeal, independent counsel, impartial judges, checks and balances, humane punishment and real work on rehabilitation. If we don't have that the danger is that the next person they put in the camp is you, me or anyone else whose face doesn't fit.

I understand the narrative but I'm deeply concerned that they are saying the only way to fight them is to use these horrendous structures they built. Don't worry, 'good guys are in charge'. Well I do worry. I worry that people will be applauding right up until the moment they realise the people heading for those camps are themselves and their families. Ironically, the people who would've been most opposed to those FEMA camps before the narrative of the past few years emerged?

OmeyocaN777
12th January 2021, 08:09
Proof China, Russia Hacked 2020 Election: IP Addresses In China, Russia, Hong Kong, Germany, Canada, Czech Republic Hacked PA, NV, MI, GA Battleground States Raw Data Analytics Show

https://theamericanreport.org/2021/01/11/exclusive-proof-china-russia-hacked-2020-election-ip-addresses-in-china-russia-hong-kong-germany-canada-czech-republic-hacked-pa-nv-mi-ga-battleground-states-raw-data-analytics-show/

Russian Operatives Stormed U.S. Capitol? Exclusive Screenshots from "Source" Show Election

Rdcp_UUOclE

Philippe
12th January 2021, 09:47
Proof China, Russia Hacked 2020 Election: IP Addresses In China, Russia, Hong Kong, Germany, Canada, Czech Republic Hacked PA, NV, MI, GA Battleground States Raw Data Analytics Show

https://theamericanreport.org/2021/01/11/exclusive-proof-china-russia-hacked-2020-election-ip-addresses-in-china-russia-hong-kong-germany-canada-czech-republic-hacked-pa-nv-mi-ga-battleground-states-raw-data-analytics-show/

Russian Operatives Stormed U.S. Capitol? Exclusive Screenshots from "Source" Show Election

Rdcp_UUOclE

Well I see from 16:50 on all these IP addresses that logged in on 3.11.2020 but not the votes that were flipped or transferred ? Are we just seeing traces of foreigners spying on the election and nothing else ? It is clear that internet connections to voting machines is totally unacceptable but where is the hard proof of this new theory of theft?

OmeyocaN777
12th January 2021, 09:57
Proof China, Russia Hacked 2020 Election: IP Addresses In China, Russia, Hong Kong, Germany, Canada, Czech Republic Hacked PA, NV, MI, GA Battleground States Raw Data Analytics Show

https://theamericanreport.org/2021/01/11/exclusive-proof-china-russia-hacked-2020-election-ip-addresses-in-china-russia-hong-kong-germany-canada-czech-republic-hacked-pa-nv-mi-ga-battleground-states-raw-data-analytics-show/

Russian Operatives Stormed U.S. Capitol? Exclusive Screenshots from "Source" Show Election

Rdcp_UUOclE

Well I see from 16:50 on all these IP addresses that logged in on 3.11.2020 but not the votes that were flipped or transferred ? Are we just seeing traces of foreigners spying on the election and nothing else ? It is clear that internet connections to voting machines is totally unacceptable but where is the hard proof of this new theory of theft?

I had the same question when I first show this video...
Go to the web page link of the "The American Report"...scroll down and you will see the votes at the right of the panel.

greybeard
12th January 2021, 10:08
US Adopts Three Tactics From The CCP’s Playbook; Has Democracy Failed in the US?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj9Hjx1cK5o

Gracy
12th January 2021, 13:16
State of Emergency gives way to enacting Fema. Fema camps for the criminals :clapping:

Doesn't this give you a chill though Doug?

It should, but in this desperate fervor to see something happen, we're now willing to cheerlead for the federal government doing things that we used to fear, and prepare for in a worst case scenario.

FEMA camps used to be a bad thing, a thing of dread, now they're a great idea. Same with the Patriot Act, martial law, military rule, snatching people off the streets, public executions, etc. Not my kind of party under any administration...

Once again my fellow Americans, careful what you're wishing for.

T Smith
12th January 2021, 13:22
State of Emergency gives way to enacting Fema. Fema camps for the criminals :clapping:

Doesn't this give you a chill though Doug? I see this and think of the famous Pastor Neimuller quote 'first they came for the jews and I didn't speak up for I was not a jew' etc... I don't want a world of FEMA camps, military tribunals, executions etc. even for those who are the worst of us. I want due process, the right of appeal, independent counsel, impartial judges, checks and balances, humane punishment and real work on rehabilitation. If we don't have that the danger is that the next person they put in the camp is you, me or anyone else whose face doesn't fit.

I understand the narrative but I'm deeply concerned that they are saying the only way to fight them is to use these horrendous structures they built. Don't worry, 'good guys are in charge'. Well I do worry. I worry that people will be applauding right up until the moment they realise the people heading for those camps are themselves and their families. Ironically, the people who would've been most opposed to those FEMA camps before the narrative of the past few years emerged?

100% agree. Unfortunately, we are already there. There is no due process, are no impartial judges, no checks and balances, etc.

The grim reality is, the FEMA camps are here no matter what side of this battle wins.

The Moss Trooper
12th January 2021, 13:23
State of Emergency gives way to enacting Fema. Fema camps for the criminals :clapping:

Doesn't this give you a chill though Doug?

It should, but in this desperate fervor to see something happen, we're now willing to cheerlead for the federal government doing things that we used to fear, and prepare for in a worst case scenario.

FEMA camps used to be a bad thing, a thing of dread, now they're a great idea. Same with the Patriot Act, martial law, military rule, snatching people off the streets, public executions, etc. Not my kind of party under any administration...

Once again my fellow Americans, careful what you're wishing for.

No sh*t!

We are at a pivotal point in history. My friend, very "main-stream" conservative, stated a few months ago that she could never see or even imagine that what happened in Germany in the 30's ever happening again!

You can imagine my reaction........ And here we are, just a few short months later, and low-and-behold....... Calls for people to be rounded-up, placed in camps, removed, "cancelled" and all sorts of other terrifying euphemisms.

Let's get rid of the "bad" people. And who is it exactly that will decide who is "bad"?


Yep, we're at a point alright.

T Smith
12th January 2021, 13:27
Not my kind of party under any administration...

Once again my fellow Americans, careful what you're wishing for.

I will echo my post above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112814-MASSIVE-FRAUD-Major-Lawsuits-to-come&p=1403338&viewfull=1#post1403338) and point out there is only one party, a UniParty--but we all know that and have well before this crisis.

Question is, what are you going to do about it if you so adamantly reject it?

Arcturian108
12th January 2021, 13:50
State of Emergency gives way to enacting Fema. Fema camps for the criminals :clapping:

Doesn't this give you a chill though Doug?

It should, but in this desperate fervor to see something happen, we're now willing to cheerlead for the federal government doing things that we used to fear, and prepare for in a worst case scenario.

FEMA camps used to be a bad thing, a thing of dread, now they're a great idea. Same with the Patriot Act, martial law, military rule, snatching people off the streets, public executions, etc. Not my kind of party under any administration...

Once again my fellow Americans, careful what you're wishing for.

With the corruption of every single governmental body from the nation state to the individual states in these United States, there is only one part of our government that appears to remain uncorrupted, or at least parts of that body, which is our military. Of course, it is totally undesirable, but we the people of these states have become too lazy to prevent this eventuality, by stopping the corruption before it reached this awful point. I can only pray at this time that our military backs up President Trump in what he has to do next to save both himself, his family, our country and the world.

T Smith
12th January 2021, 14:56
State of Emergency gives way to enacting Fema. Fema camps for the criminals :clapping:

Doesn't this give you a chill though Doug?

It should, but in this desperate fervor to see something happen, we're now willing to cheerlead for the federal government doing things that we used to fear, and prepare for in a worst case scenario.

FEMA camps used to be a bad thing, a thing of dread, now they're a great idea. Same with the Patriot Act, martial law, military rule, snatching people off the streets, public executions, etc. Not my kind of party under any administration...

Once again my fellow Americans, careful what you're wishing for.

Gracy, we are on the same page here so I wanted to submit a more thoughtful comment to your post.

If SCOTUS would have adjudicated the claims of fraud, which there is precedent for, this downward spiral to civil war and complete Nazi-like totalitarianism that we are going to see regardless of outcome could have been avoided. But they didn't. They sent a clear message to We the People that there is no system in place to adjudicate the rule of law, essentially signaling we are a nation of lawlessness. At the same time the UniParty and democrat partisans cheered on this move because of their hatred for Trump, or (although somewhat unfathomable to understand) their desire to see Biden as their POTUS, not knowing the consequences of what they wished for. This works both ways. That's why this is war.

If there was no wide-spread election fraud, and in significant degrees that would affect the outcome of the election, and if this was determined in a court of law, then the law of the land would have determined Biden wins and we wouldn't see this unrest. My guess is, which I suspect millions and millions of people around the world share, the reason the court refused to adjudicate the dispute is because they fear the result, i.e., a massive Trump landslide and the exposure of the corruption throughout the entire system, from dog-catcher to every top postion of government.

But here's the thing: the law didn't determine Biden won; dictators of the UniParty did, by decree, and in the face of significant evidence that Trump won. This isn't the kind of dispute that will go away just because the dictators and overlords wish it so. Especially when one of the candidates is a professed globalist, anti-Constitutionalist, and in league with the Chinese Communist Party. This last statement isn't hyperbole; all three of those modifiers are facts.

In short, this is a dirty mess.

No one wants to see Marshall Law nor anybody whisked off into the night without due process. But I truly believe most people do not fully grasp that we are already at war. We have been for awhile now. This was a war brought on by arrogance, hubris, and those who condoned the rule of law to begin with.

Now we're in it; let's meditate and pray to find a way to peace.

Eric J (Viking)
12th January 2021, 16:04
No Matter Who’s Inaugurated, Trump Has Already Won—BIG TIME!

More accurately, We the People have won.

SOTN Exclusive
State of the Nation

People, think about it!

The January 6th Electoral College vote certification by Congress was totally blown up — THAT’S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. NOTHING EVEN CLOSE.

The Capitol Building was stormed — NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. NOTHING EVEN CLOSE.

Now here we are fast approaching Inauguration Day, and Washington, D.C. is being rapidly transformed into a heavily fortified fortress — NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. NOTHING EVEN CLOSE.

Do you get it yet?!

That the power elite inside the Beltway is so friggin’ afraid of the 80 million-strong Patriot Movement speaks volumes, yes? YES?!?!

It had to happen this way.

Trump has the Democrat communists, Deep State traitors and NWO Globalists enemies all on the defensive.

They don’t know if they’re comin’ or goin’. FOR REAL!

That’s why they’re desperately and recklessly moving forward with both the 25th Amendment and Impeachment. The Democrat election thieves are totally beside themselves with sheer fright and total trepidation.

Why?

Because Team Trump has them all dead to rights, that’s why!



The critical point here is that the whole world is watching the United States of America completely lock down the fake inauguration of imposter Joe Biden because of his naked theft of the 2020 POTUS election.

The mere presentation of such a pitiful spectacle is waking up people across the planet to the stark reality that the Democrats just pulled off the greatest election heist in world history.

Now that’s big—VERY BIG!

What’s “VERY BIG” is the awareness of such a massive, complex crime spree committed by all the usual suspects.

And, as such a brutal anti-DEMOCRATIC reality sets into the minds of Americans and other national citizenries alike, an unparalleled sea change is slowly but surely taking place.

When this vital consciousness-raising has run its course, it’s going to be quite beautiful. And, as President Trump loves to say: “It’s going to be tremendous!”

But what exactly does that sea change really look like? As follows:

THE OLD WORLD ORDER
IS ABOUT TO DISSOLVE

We have one caveat to this utterly unstoppable scenario.

There will be a quite dramatic and wholly unpredictable transitional period (it’s already started) that will undoubtedly unfold in fits and starts.

There will appear to be losses right after victories for the Trump Movement. And, wins right after defeats. That’s okay. It always happens this way when the dark side is about to experience an epic reversal of fortune.

That’s also because the only way this “righting of the ship of state” can take place is through a rather tedious and complicated process that will, at first, look like a controlled demolition.

By the way, President Trump has already proven he’s got the most powerful wrecking ball on the planet. You know: MSM = Fake News. Democrat Party = Communist Party. DNC = CCP. DoJ = Den of Thieves. FBI = “Elite Protection Racket”. SCOTUS = Liar’s Retreat. NATO = North Atlantic Terrorist Organization. UN = NWO. CNN = Communist New Network. And so on and so forth.

Now, folks, until this thing plays out, and the Patriot Movement is completely out of the woods (and in the Capitol) pray like there’s no tomorrow … … …

DO YOUR OWN PART … … …

Send info/data like this everywhere and every way you can …

And have faith that God’s ALWAYS in charge … even if the dark side appears to be.

For, in the end, the forces of light always triumph over the
forces of darkness.

— Intelligence Analyst & Former U.S. Military Officer

State of the Nation
January 12, 2021

Viking

thepainterdoug
12th January 2021, 16:09
YES TO ALL/ I didnt mean Im a fan of Fema or Fema camps. so my bad there. Im not a fan of Guantanamo either yet many are screaming lock her up lock her up. i was making a connection to what a state of emergency would and could facilitate and went a little overboard.

Philippe
12th January 2021, 17:35
https://theamericanreport.org/2021/01/11/exclusive-proof-china-russia-hacked-2020-election-ip-addresses-in-china-russia-hong-kong-germany-canada-czech-republic-hacked-pa-nv-mi-ga-battleground-states-raw-data-analytics-show/

I'm still trying to find the section where the actual flipping of the votes is shown. The inserted text box remains blank. Sofar no visible data for this election.

They also instruct to go to the next link about Hammer and Scorecard. And there are compromised votes listed during previous elections:

https://www.blxware.org/
It states :
Why were Robert Mueller,John Brennan, James Clapper, and the CIA unmasking and hacking so many voters in GA, PA, NV, MI, OH, FL, TX, NC, AZ, and so many more?
Leverage and Control of our elections!

Eric J (Viking)
12th January 2021, 17:56
Trump to address the nation....looks like 8.00 GMT


Just before boarding marine 1...to Alamo Texas


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ5fM4zC3b0

https://youtu.be/4DIEdzU7l_Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DIEdzU7l_Y

Viking

OmeyocaN777
12th January 2021, 19:01
https://theamericanreport.org/2021/01/11/exclusive-proof-china-russia-hacked-2020-election-ip-addresses-in-china-russia-hong-kong-germany-canada-czech-republic-hacked-pa-nv-mi-ga-battleground-states-raw-data-analytics-show/

I'm still trying to find the section where the actual flipping of the votes is shown. The inserted text box remains blank. Sofar no visible data for this election.

They also instruct to go to the next link about Hammer and Scorecard. And there are compromised votes listed during previous elections:

https://www.blxware.org/
It states :
Why were Robert Mueller,John Brennan, James Clapper, and the CIA unmasking and hacking so many voters in GA, PA, NV, MI, OH, FL, TX, NC, AZ, and so many more?
Leverage and Control of our elections!

Here it is....well some of them
45803

The Moss Trooper
12th January 2021, 19:02
Just.............. WoW!

t1r2rdmWsPE

I'm lost for words........

Satori
12th January 2021, 19:26
There will be no martial law.

The election steal of 2020 is fait accompli.

The NG and military are in DC from now until 1/20/2021 to maintain some semblance of peace and protect the process, and they will remain there as long as deemed necessary by the power base and deciders.

On 1/20/2021 Biden will be placed in office as the POTUS.

Trump is working on his transition and focusing on how to make as graceful and dignified an exist as possible.

He does not want to split the country any further than it has been and he does not want matters to devolve further into chaos and violence. He seeks to preserve the Union, not destroy it.

The awake and aware people of this country and the world now know who is who, and where the lines of demarcation are drawn.

The focus in the USA is turning to 2022 and genuine political, economic and social reform.

The time is now to decide where you stand and what action you will take, if any.

Honor dies where interest lies.

Thus, choose wisely and let integrity guide you.

(Edit to correct typo and change "fiat" to "fait", as pointed out by 42.)

TargeT
12th January 2021, 19:32
The election steal of 2020 is fiat accompli.


Obviously a new Italian car...

a closer definition would be "a forgone conclusion"

I disagree but it's mostly hopium probably...

greybeard
12th January 2021, 19:46
I think chaos and violence will be inevitable if Biden is inaugurated.
Too many Americans know how they voted and it was not for Biden.
I can see the logic where Trump would do his utmost to stop this by bowing out.
However, I suspect that won't happen.
Too many behind him, supporting him.
Mind you if Biden got elected --he could be impeached -- smiling
Chris

Eric J (Viking)
12th January 2021, 19:47
There will be no martial law.

The election steal of 2020 is fiat accompli.

The NG and military are in DC from now until 1/20/2021 to maintain some semblance of peace and protect the process, and they will remain there as long as deemed necessary by the power base and deciders.

On 1/20/2021 Biden will be placed in office as the POTUS.

Trump is working on his transition and focusing on how to make as graceful and dignified an exist as possible.

He does not want to split the country any further than it has been and he does not want matters to devolve further into chaos and violence. He seeks to preserve the Union, not destroy it.

The awake and aware people of this country and the world now know who is who, and where the lines of demarcation are drawn.

The focus in the USA is turning to 2022 and genuine political, economic and social reform.

The time is now to decide where you stand and what action you will take, if any.

Honor dies where interest lies.

Thus, chose wisely and let integrity guide you.

Still not totally convinced Satori, although you would know better than me the legalities of the best outcome for Trump.

I still think there is a twist in all this, or maybe I’m living in hope.

I can only envisage an outcome to suit all of humanity for the better.

I see there are two roads, a fork in this timeline, it could really be up to us to steer this ship in the right direction.

All it takes is mindset.

Focus on what we want and we all will have.

Viking

Olam
12th January 2021, 19:58
There will be no martial law.

The election steal of 2020 is fiat accompli.

The NG and military are in DC from now until 1/20/2021 to maintain some semblance of peace and protect the process, and they will remain there as long as deemed necessary by the power base and deciders.

On 1/20/2021 Biden will be placed in office as the POTUS.

Trump is working on his transition and focusing on how to make as graceful and dignified an exist as possible.

He does not want to split the country any further than it has been and he does not want matters to devolve further into chaos and violence. He seeks to preserve the Union, not destroy it.

The awake and aware people of this country and the world now know who is who, and where the lines of demarcation are drawn.

The focus in the USA is turning to 2022 and genuine political, economic and social reform.

The time is now to decide where you stand and what action you will take, if any.

Honor dies where interest lies.

Thus, chose wisely and let integrity guide you.

Still not totally convinced Satori, although you would know better than me the legalities of the best outcome for Trump.

I still think there is a twist in all this, or maybe I’m living in hope.

I can only envisage an outcome to suit all of humanity for the better.

I see there are two roads, a fork in this timeline, it could really be up to us to steer this ship in the right direction.

All it takes is mindset.

Focus on what we want and we all will have.

Viking

The odds are great
The law is against us
The corporations are against us
Most law makers are against us
The narrative is fully controlled against us
Since they control the narrative, they set us up easily
There are not many options left but frustrated people going all out war
That is of course a trap to further control the narrative.
Unless the military takes control under Trumps command, I don't see how the above tsunami can be avoided.
Again, that's what they want, domestic violence will fuel the agenda .
Prey?
Yes of course, but it's the human ego that thinks God is on one side....
God does not judge as we are all here to learn.
Still
Many of us have incarnated in this moment for this very reason.
If this situations gives you the opportunity to find yourself, your inner power and be all you can be, well then
That would be God's greatest gift.

Satori
12th January 2021, 20:04
Viking

My opinion is not based upon legalities or the law. It arises from the realization that there is no rule of law and the stark illegality of, and corruption surrounding, the election steal. That, and my belief, generally stated, that Trump does not want to be the cause, or even be perceived as the cause, of further bloodshed.

Gracy
12th January 2021, 20:14
Many of us have incarnated in this moment for this very reason.
If this situations gives you the opportunity to find yourself, your inner power and be all you can be, well then
That would be God's greatest gift.

Yes. This may well be one of those times where a long and torturous dark night of the soul, is the best thing that can happen to a person. If that's in the lineup for anyone reading this, embrace it, and see it through.

Things will look different come the next light of day.

mountain_jim
12th January 2021, 20:15
In speech live now, sounded like he did indicate the next administration would not include him.

c_WNI43s3ds

Eric J (Viking)
12th January 2021, 20:21
Viking

My opinion is not based upon legalities or the law. It arises from the realization that there is no rule of law and the stark illegality of, and corruption surrounding, the election steal. That, and my belief, generally stated, that Trump does not want to be the cause, or even be perceived as the cause, of further bloodshed.

Satori

Sometimes I think at what cost do we need to change the outcome of this reality.

If ever there was a right time, the time is now.

Bloodshed? We have bloodshed all over the planet. Evil is rife. Time for change I say.

Viking

greybeard
12th January 2021, 20:32
BREAKING NEWS TODAY : Trump and Pence Signal President Won't Resign or Be Removed

Vice President Mike Pence signaled he’ll spurn demands to immediately oust Donald Trump over a deadly riot by the president’s supporters as the two met and agreed to work together for the remainder of the term, according to senior administration official.



The discussion seems inconsistent with intense speculation that Trump plans to resign before Joe Biden’s Jan. 20 inauguration.



It was the first time Trump and Pence have spoken since the president’s supporters stormed the Capitol while Pence was presiding over formal affirmation of his re-election defeat, according to two people familiar with the matter.



The two men, meeting in the Oval Office, agreed that people who broke into the Capitol don’t represent Trump’s “America First” movement and pledged to continue their work on behalf of the country for the remainder of their term, the official said. It was a good conversation in which Trump and Pence discussed the week ahead and reflected on the last four years of the administration’s work, the official added.



House Democrats are seeking to hold Trump accountable for the riot if Pence fails to act against the president. Lawmakers pushed forward on Monday with their plans to impeach Trump for a second time, introducing a resolution accusing Trump of “incitement of an insurrection”



Pence was initially furious at Trump after hundreds of the president’s supporters breached the Capitol last Wednesday, disrupting the count of Electoral College votes and causing the vice president and lawmakers to flee the House and Senate chambers.



The episode raised the prospect that Pence might act to invoke the 25th Amendment to the Constitution, which allows the vice president and a majority of the cabinet to remove the president from office -- a move encouraged by Democratic members of Congress. But Pence has privately dismissed the idea as not feasible, according to one person familiar with the matter.
The senior administration official’s account of their meeting appeared to put the matter to rest, and also rule out a presidential resignation.



The vice president’s office and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows’ team coordinated on the official’s account, according to people familiar with the matter.



The official and the people familiar with the matter asked not to be identified because the meeting between Trump and Pence wasn’t announced.



House Democrats have introduced a resolution that sets up a vote over impeachment later this week -- unless Pence changes his position and ousts Trump.



Impeachment Moves Forward



The chamber will consider the measure Wednesday, according to a schedule released from House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Democrat.



A majority of House lawmakers have signed onto the resolution, led by Democratic Reps. David Cicilline of Rhode Island, Jamie Raskin of Maryland, and Ted Lieu of California, charging Trump with inciting the insurrection at the Capitol on Jan. 6.



It seeks to both remove Trump from the presidency and prevent him from ever holding office again. Cicilline said the resolution has enough support for passage, including some Republicans.



The four-page measure includes an article accusing Trump of high crimes and misdemeanors for “Incitement of Insurrection,” and says that he “willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol” as lawmakers were certifying the Electoral College.



The measure also cites Trump’s phone call to Georgia’s secretary of state, urging him to “find” enough votes to overturn Biden’s win there.


https://www.youtube.com/post/UgyTHlKxS4GAJnsmYXl4AaABCQ

Make of this what you will.
Chris

samildamach
12th January 2021, 21:06
I would in that case get ready to wipe my complete online foot print if I lived in America, because I don't expect any restraint when they come for the Trump supporters. Ive read already that Trump supporters are being labelled domestic terrorists and being denied internal flights.

Eric J (Viking)
12th January 2021, 21:26
“We cannot surrender ... we need to stand up.”

Lt. General Thomas McInerney drops numerous bombshells

Tried to embed video...

Don’t miss this one very short video, McInerey talks from the heart.


https://rumble.com/embed/v9ynf9/?pub=4


Viking

OmeyocaN777
12th January 2021, 21:33
First time and last...I deal with politics but for Trump it worthed it.
For me the greatest man after Kennedy...
I really hope humanity to have another opportunity again in the future like him...
Here in Avalon we all know that everything is energy, we did our best to help...to shed some light in this dark age of time.
I will keep fighting in my own way like before...after all, we are eternal spirits and the learning process never ends.
Peace, Love and Harmony to all.

AuCo
12th January 2021, 22:03
Peloci wanted to impeach Trump? So, what's the hurry? They have 4 years to destroy him.
Taiwan went with Pompeo disregarding one-china policy, poking China in the eye. Why do that knowing Biden is not gonna be there to back them up?
Italy pretty much told the whole world their connections to the election fraud. How is that gonna bode for their relation with the Biden administrations? They couldn't just hush it, could they? Last I heard Italy was the only EU nation being best pal with China.
Ukraine still calling out Biden a criminal, knowing he was not at all a nice guy to them. No retributions from Biden, heh!?
NYE went against Trumps order to delist Chicom, then actually had to delist them. Who's boss?
And why Biden pretty much only taps into Obama's minions for cabinet posts? Having trouble convincing someone else to join or what?

Anyway, something's still not clear.

Gracy
12th January 2021, 22:28
Italy pretty much told the whole world their connections to the election fraud. How is that gonna bode for their relation with the Biden administrations?

Here we go again.

Where is any conclusive evidence, that Italy is now the latest in line to be deemed guilty as well of assisting in US election fraud?

TargeT
12th January 2021, 22:40
Italy pretty much told the whole world their connections to the election fraud. How is that gonna bode for their relation with the Biden administrations?

Here we go again.

Where is any conclusive evidence, that Italy is now the latest in line to be deemed guilty as well of assisting in US election fraud?



I have yet to see the affidavit so.. this maybe meaningless.

Florida Non-Profit Issues Press Release Claiming Possession Of “Potentially Fake” Affidavit From Lawyer Of Individual Who Personally Switched Votes (https://www.publishedreporter.com/2021/01/07/florida-non-profit-issues-press-release-claiming-possession-of-affidavit-from-individual-at-us-embassy-in-italy-who-personally-switched-votes/)

One
12th January 2021, 22:43
Jeffrey Prather, final option.
lsxDpXRqzzk

Rawhide68
12th January 2021, 22:48
I just stumbled on this freshly released clip from one of my favo channels "Near Death Experiment"

Well worth watching in my opinion


Lt. General McInerney Gives Impromptu Interview at Whitehouse

Youtube deleted it very quickly as I suspected :mmph: (therefore I made a copy to my HDD) so you can download it from here https://ufile.io/cdw5f1oi (for 30 days, Filesize 13,4 Mb.)

Now reposted on Rumble
https://rumble.com/vcq2w5-lt.-general-mcinerney-gives-impromptu-interview-at-whitehouse.html

Back on YouTube with (age limit)
E2zTIi9T12E

T Smith
13th January 2021, 00:34
There will be no martial law.

The election steal of 2020 is fait accompli.

The NG and military are in DC from now until 1/20/2021 to maintain some semblance of peace and protect the process, and they will remain there as long as deemed necessary by the power base and deciders.

On 1/20/2021 Biden will be placed in office as the POTUS.

Trump is working on his transition and focusing on how to make as graceful and dignified an exist as possible.

He does not want to split the country any further than it has been and he does not want matters to devolve further into chaos and violence. He seeks to preserve the Union, not destroy it.

The awake and aware people of this country and the world now know who is who, and where the lines of demarcation are drawn.

The focus in the USA is turning to 2022 and genuine political, economic and social reform.

The time is now to decide where you stand and what action you will take, if any.

Honor dies where interest lies.

Thus, chose wisely and let integrity guide you.

(Edit to correct typo and change "fiat" to "fait", as pointed out by 42.)

Agree. All buckle up for POTUS Harris/Biden and our CCP overlords.

Unfortunately there will be no dignified exist for Trump. I foresee a very tragic ending. I suspect they will still try to impeach, (they have the votes now) and/or indict or try Trump for sedition or treason, and he and family will be made sacrificial lambs. There will be no further resistance against the corrupted PTB, for fear of retaliation, and Trump and supporters will be made an example. In the words of Nancy Pelosi, Trump will be erased from history. If any historians dare utter his name, his legacy will be the POTUS who invoked insurrection against the United States Government.

The country is already split, and the Union will be completely destroyed, regardless. I expect a false flag with pipe bombs, molotov cocktails, etc., and perhaps even a staged armed conflict on January 20; the narrative will blame Trump supporters and provide good reason for Biden and congress to enact even more draconian lock-down laws and policies and perhaps even trigger the abolishment of the 2nd Amendment altogether. If this doesn't occur on January 20, it will eventually occur organically, as militias and organizations like Oath Keepers will take matters into their own hands as vigilantes--which will be disastrous both for the Union and what limited civil rights we have left. At that point every American citizen will be guilty until proven innocent and a suspected domestic terrorist under the NDAA.

In other words, I do not believe Trump's concession will save the country from violence; IMHO it will lead to more chaos and violence.

This has been planned for a long time. I envision check points, ID cards, forced vaccinations that will program DNA (which will allow the next bioweapon strain to breech the cells it attacks--thus rendering it a genuine deadly virus), and limited travel without permission from government. The former Soviet Union comes to mind, but in some ways our new system will be more authoritarian and oppressive.

As they come for the guns, people will resist more, some law officers will be killed in firefights, and draconian responses will become more severe. Any known Trump supporters or 2nd-Amendment supporters will be placed on no-fly lists, their bank accounts usurped, denied employment, and maybe even executed for treason.

There can be no 2022--sorry--elections are now purely ceremonial and any political movement that counters the status quo will be easily crushed. What 2020 showed us is We The People have no voice; how can we possibly enact reform without free and fair elections?

The best advice now is to get good with God and seek inner peace.

SilentFeathers
13th January 2021, 00:59
Unfortunately there will be no dignified exist for Trump. I foresee a very tragic ending. I suspect they will still try to impeach, (they have the votes now) and/or indict or try Trump for sedition or treason, and he and family will be made sacrificial lambs. There will be no further resistance against the corrupted PTB, for fear of retaliation, and Trump and supporters will be made an example. In the words of Nancy Pelosi, Trump will be erased from history.

You could almost replace the name Trump in this paragraph with Akhenaten....

In my mind there is some weird parallels between these two leaders.

ExomatrixTV
13th January 2021, 05:56
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I was already in the process adding alternatives like bitchute but most of us Avalonians do not do that ... maybe we all have to start adding same video from alternative video platforms by default. Yes it takes some extra effort .... but it helps on multiple levels to promote more independence ... away from NWO technocrats.

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Eric J (Viking)
13th January 2021, 07:35
Picked this up Jim Stone site....

http://82.221.129.208/isnancydone.png

Viking

greybeard
13th January 2021, 08:47
15,000 National Guards Deployed In DC Ahead of Inauguration; Big Tech Crack Down Facing Criticisms


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s1IyUqAtcE

greybeard
13th January 2021, 08:50
BREAKING: Sidney Powell Addresses The Nation: BIG CHANGES ON THE WAY! Do Not Give Up!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ByxNMAHNZU

Eric J (Viking)
13th January 2021, 12:14
General Flynn's Message To America (video 2 mins)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jELA18vC2OGZ/

Viking

greybeard
13th January 2021, 13:49
Robert David Steele with Nicholas Veniamin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFg7G-ZtI1o

Gemma13
13th January 2021, 14:42
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

Olam
13th January 2021, 14:49
:thumbsup:

TargeT
13th January 2021, 14:55
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

yes, via discovery...assuming this goes to court and doesn't get bounced via a technicality like everything else seems to be.

Satori
13th January 2021, 15:40
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

yes, via discovery...assuming this goes to court and doesn't get bounced via a technicality like everything else seems to be.


I agree generally with Target. But I will add that this case is not likely to get bounced, at least not right out of the gate like the cases brought for Trump, because it is brought by Dominion against Powell, not by Powell or her client against Dominion.

Also, the claims are different and more traditional and well-established. That is, they do not directly challenge the election steal, excuse me, results. I understand the claims against her are essentially defamation and injury to business. (I have not read the complaint.)

As far as discovery, the rules exist for Powell to discover the evidence necessary to defend the claims against her, which defense is at its core truth. But, the judge has the power to put limits on that. I expect dominion will resist any discovery that opens up the black box and provides transparency for Powell to defend herself and prove her statements are true. The will claim such things as trade secret, confidentiality, immunity, and that state secrets and national security security are implicated.

It will be up to the judge to sort out discovery disputes. Hopefully, but remains to be seen, a fair and honest judge has been or will be assigned to the case.

Powell may have counterclaims she will bring against Dominion too. See may also seek to join or add other parties to the lawsuit. This will also provide grounds for discovery; if her claims, if any, are not dismissed.

If I were her I’d try to get the case dismissed, but that will be hard, and failing that, keep it as simple as possible and not add parties. There will be an army of lawyers working against her as it is and she would do well to not cause more of them to step on the field of play.

Satori
13th January 2021, 15:57
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

yes, via discovery...assuming this goes to court and doesn't get bounced via a technicality like everything else seems to be.


I agree generally with Target. But I will add that this case is not likely to get bounced, at least not right out of the gate like the cases brought for Trump, because it is brought by Dominion against Powell, not by Powell or her client against Dominion.

Also, the claims are different and more traditional and well-established. That is, they do not directly challenge the election steal, excuse me, results. I understand the claims against her are essentially defamation and injury to business. (I have not read the complaint.)

As far as discovery, the rules exist for Powell to discover the evidence necessary to defend the claims against her, which defense is at its core truth. But, the judge has the power to put limits on that. I expect dominion will resist any discovery that opens up the black box and provides transparency for Powell to defend herself and prove her statements are true. The will claim such things as trade secret, confidentiality, immunity, and that state secrets and national security security are implicated.

It will be up to the judge to sort out discovery disputes. Hopefully, but remains to be seen, a fair and honest judge has been or will be assigned to the case.

Powell may have counterclaims she will bring against Dominion too. See may also seek to join or add other parties to the lawsuit. This will also provide grounds for discovery; if her claims, if any, are not dismissed.

If I were her I’d try to get the case dismissed, but that will be hard, and failing that, keep it as simple as possible and not add parties. There will be an army of lawyers working against her as it is and she would do well to not cause more of them to step on the field of play.

I write to add that , apart from any discovery directly from Dominion, Powell already has a lot of documents and other evidence to prove the truth of her statements and defend against the complaint. Also, I assume, the people who assisted her will be ready, willing and able to provide testimony and other evidence to establish the truth of her claims.

iota
13th January 2021, 17:07
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

yes, via discovery...assuming this goes to court and doesn't get bounced via a technicality like everything else seems to be.


I agree generally with Target. But I will add that this case is not likely to get bounced, at least not right out of the gate like the cases brought for Trump, because it is brought by Dominion against Powell, not by Powell or her client against Dominion.

Also, the claims are different and more traditional and well-established. That is, they do not directly challenge the election steal, excuse me, results. I understand the claims against her are essentially defamation and injury to business. (I have not read the complaint.)

As far as discovery, the rules exist for Powell to discover the evidence necessary to defend the claims against her, which defense is at its core truth. But, the judge has the power to put limits on that. I expect dominion will resist any discovery that opens up the black box and provides transparency for Powell to defend herself and prove her statements are true. The will claim such things as trade secret, confidentiality, immunity, and that state secrets and national security security are implicated.

It will be up to the judge to sort out discovery disputes. Hopefully, but remains to be seen, a fair and honest judge has been or will be assigned to the case.

Powell may have counterclaims she will bring against Dominion too. See may also seek to join or add other parties to the lawsuit. This will also provide grounds for discovery; if her claims, if any, are not dismissed.

If I were her I’d try to get the case dismissed, but that will be hard, and failing that, keep it as simple as possible and not add parties. There will be an army of lawyers working against her as it is and she would do well to not cause more of them to step on the field of play.

so what, if any, would be the ramifications of her electing disclosure to others?

because they will do EXACTLY what you said, and in fact, may be THE motive.

which is, through discovery, find out exactly what it is that she has. they must have a pretty good idea, but they don't KNOW

this suit is precisely the opportunity to find out, and to find out in PRIVACY, as it MUST be disclosed through the process of discovery.

so it was a very smart move on their part to find out the extent and limits of the "goods" at her disposal.

the other factor is precisely what you mentioned, the judge will have discretion to rule whether or not the evidence she has is not just admissible or not? but whether it will fall under "national security" and therefore be denied (repressed).

IF (when) that happens? will she now ALSO be barred, prohibited from disclosure of said evidence to the public or ever again.

if not? THAT is their game. they will find out exactly what she has, the judge will deny its admissibility and cite National Security issues and in the process bury the evidence forever

the dems will spin it as "see she had nothing"

and i notice as you speak and describe the judicial process i sense an underlying confidence or assumption that it WILL be on the up and up. is that truly your perspective? because it sure seemed that the judgments and opinions of the judges were a foregone conclusion in the previous cases ... and were i Dominion?

i would not consider bringing a case forth to which i had NOT assurances of cooperation from the judge. THAT would be matter number one on my list to check off ...

always, always look forward to your reply and hope everyone at Avalon understands how fortunate we are to have access to your experience and your opinion.

thanks Satori, really appreciate it and you!

TravelerJim
13th January 2021, 17:44
Interesting comments here from Kerry Cassidy. I dont believe everything she says but it's usually worthy of consideration. She does touch on Simon Parkes, who I am not a big fan of. FWIW..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgMPtS6T38&list=WL&index=19

thepainterdoug
13th January 2021, 17:50
I want to like Simon. I want to like everyone. But the Simon, Robert David Steele interview bothered me. Simon showing up on this topic at this time, similar to Mike Adams, "the health ranger"

Mike went way fear porn overboard with Covid, predicting millions dead, famine, and so on. now its the election.

I suppose there is a business in clicks, and I feel they are putting clicks first over responsible news.

Satori
13th January 2021, 17:55
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

yes, via discovery...assuming this goes to court and doesn't get bounced via a technicality like everything else seems to be.


I agree generally with Target. But I will add that this case is not likely to get bounced, at least not right out of the gate like the cases brought for Trump, because it is brought by Dominion against Powell, not by Powell or her client against Dominion.

Also, the claims are different and more traditional and well-established. That is, they do not directly challenge the election steal, excuse me, results. I understand the claims against her are essentially defamation and injury to business. (I have not read the complaint.)

As far as discovery, the rules exist for Powell to discover the evidence necessary to defend the claims against her, which defense is at its core truth. But, the judge has the power to put limits on that. I expect dominion will resist any discovery that opens up the black box and provides transparency for Powell to defend herself and prove her statements are true. The will claim such things as trade secret, confidentiality, immunity, and that state secrets and national security security are implicated.

It will be up to the judge to sort out discovery disputes. Hopefully, but remains to be seen, a fair and honest judge has been or will be assigned to the case.

Powell may have counterclaims she will bring against Dominion too. See may also seek to join or add other parties to the lawsuit. This will also provide grounds for discovery; if her claims, if any, are not dismissed.

If I were her I’d try to get the case dismissed, but that will be hard, and failing that, keep it as simple as possible and not add parties. There will be an army of lawyers working against her as it is and she would do well to not cause more of them to step on the field of play.

so what, if any, would be the ramifications of her electing disclosure to others?

because they will do EXACTLY what you said, and in fact, may be THE motive.

which is, through discovery, find out exactly what it is that she has. they must have a pretty good idea, but they don't KNOW

this suit is precisely the opportunity to find out, and to find out in PRIVACY, as it MUST be disclosed through the process of discovery.

so it was a very smart move on their part to find out the extent and limits of the "goods" at her disposal.

the other factor is precisely what you mentioned, the judge will have discretion to rule whether or not the evidence she has is not just admissible or not? but whether it will fall under "national security" and therefore be denied (repressed).

IF (when) that happens? will she now ALSO be barred, prohibited from disclosure of said evidence to the public or ever again.

if not? THAT is their game. they will find out exactly what she has, the judge will deny its admissibility and cite National Security issues and in the process bury the evidence forever

the dems will spin it as "see she had nothing"

and i notice as you speak and describe the judicial process i sense an underlying confidence or assumption that it WILL be on the up and up. is that truly your perspective? because it sure seemed that the judgments and opinions of the judges were a foregone conclusion in the previous cases ... and were i Dominion?

i would not consider bringing a case forth to which i had NOT assurances of cooperation from the judge. THAT would be matter number one on my list to check off ...

always, always look forward to your reply and hope everyone at Avalon understands how fortunate we are to have access to your experience and your opinion.

thanks Satori, really appreciate it and you!

First let me address your sense of my confidence or assumption that the judicial process in Powell's case will be on the up and up. I do not think for a minute that things are always on the up and up within our judicial system. In fact, the longer I've been in this racket, the less confident I am that the system is blind and that achieving justice and fairness is the goal of all judges. Some (maybe many) yes, all no

Typically, routine, day-to-day cases proceed properly and more or less fairly. But when and where more politically, economically and socially important issues are at stake, and the more powerful the parties (or a party), the more likely a judge's biases and such will arise in a case. Judges are not stupid and they know how to cover their tracks and cloak any irregularities and shenanigans in legal procedure and in their interpretation and application of substantive law to the "facts". And, 80% to 90% of the time what a trial judge does is upheld by the "higher" courts that review what the trial judge did.

Discovery is supposed to be a two-way street. Theoretically, all sides in a civil lawsuit are required to disclose all relevant information to each other. In federal court, (and some state courts) there are mandatory rule 26 "initial disclosures' that a party is required to make to the other parties without a request for such information. Beyond that, a party must request information in the form of such discovery tools as interrogatories, requests for production, request for inspection, and depositions.

There are a number of exceptions to the disclosure or discovery requirements, such as attorney-client privileged information and in civil cases, trade secrets can get some protection. However, as to trade secrets, the remedy there is for a judge to require the disclosure, but make it subject to a protective or confidentiality order so that it is not released to the general public and/or competitors. Judges don't always do that. They sometimes do not require the disclosure at all.

The judge will have the discretion to decide what is discoverable, and if there is an evidentiary hearing or trial, what is admissible into evidence. What is discoverable prior to any hearing or trial and what is admissible into evidence at any hearing or trial are two different things. Discovery is much broader. Admissibility is much narrower. Judges are more likely to allow discovery, but then at any hearing or trial they may not allow some information into evidence for any number of reasons within the judge's discretion. What matters in any legitimate court case is not just what is discovered, but what is discovered and admissible. However, if the purpose of a case is not to take it to trial, but rather to discover information for other purposes, such as political purposes, then it does not matter if the information is admitted into evidence.

It is my opinion that Dominion does not expect to recover any money from Powell and that it really does not want to pursue the case to trial. Rather, it wants to destroy Powell emotionally and financially and has unleashed its lawyers for that purpose. It may as you seem to suggest seek to use discovery to get the goods and identify the players and such. But that is pretty much already out there. However, there are likely people operating behind the scenes who "they" want to identify for political purposes and the like, not for legitimate litigation purposes.

iota
13th January 2021, 18:16
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

yes, via discovery...assuming this goes to court and doesn't get bounced via a technicality like everything else seems to be.


I agree generally with Target. But I will add that this case is not likely to get bounced, at least not right out of the gate like the cases brought for Trump, because it is brought by Dominion against Powell, not by Powell or her client against Dominion.

Also, the claims are different and more traditional and well-established. That is, they do not directly challenge the election steal, excuse me, results. I understand the claims against her are essentially defamation and injury to business. (I have not read the complaint.)

As far as discovery, the rules exist for Powell to discover the evidence necessary to defend the claims against her, which defense is at its core truth. But, the judge has the power to put limits on that. I expect dominion will resist any discovery that opens up the black box and provides transparency for Powell to defend herself and prove her statements are true. The will claim such things as trade secret, confidentiality, immunity, and that state secrets and national security security are implicated.

It will be up to the judge to sort out discovery disputes. Hopefully, but remains to be seen, a fair and honest judge has been or will be assigned to the case.

Powell may have counterclaims she will bring against Dominion too. See may also seek to join or add other parties to the lawsuit. This will also provide grounds for discovery; if her claims, if any, are not dismissed.

If I were her I’d try to get the case dismissed, but that will be hard, and failing that, keep it as simple as possible and not add parties. There will be an army of lawyers working against her as it is and she would do well to not cause more of them to step on the field of play.

so what, if any, would be the ramifications of her electing disclosure to others?

because they will do EXACTLY what you said, and in fact, may be THE motive.

which is, through discovery, find out exactly what it is that she has. they must have a pretty good idea, but they don't KNOW

this suit is precisely the opportunity to find out, and to find out in PRIVACY, as it MUST be disclosed through the process of discovery.

so it was a very smart move on their part to find out the extent and limits of the "goods" at her disposal.

the other factor is precisely what you mentioned, the judge will have discretion to rule whether or not the evidence she has is not just admissible or not? but whether it will fall under "national security" and therefore be denied (repressed).

IF (when) that happens? will she now ALSO be barred, prohibited from disclosure of said evidence to the public or ever again.

if not? THAT is their game. they will find out exactly what she has, the judge will deny its admissibility and cite National Security issues and in the process bury the evidence forever

the dems will spin it as "see she had nothing"

and i notice as you speak and describe the judicial process i sense an underlying confidence or assumption that it WILL be on the up and up. is that truly your perspective? because it sure seemed that the judgments and opinions of the judges were a foregone conclusion in the previous cases ... and were i Dominion?

i would not consider bringing a case forth to which i had NOT assurances of cooperation from the judge. THAT would be matter number one on my list to check off ...

always, always look forward to your reply and hope everyone at Avalon understands how fortunate we are to have access to your experience and your opinion.

thanks Satori, really appreciate it and you!

First let me address your sense of my confidence or assumption that the judicial process in Powell's case will be on the up and up. I do not think for a minute that things are always on the up and up within our judicial system. In fact, the longer I've been in this racket, the less confident I am that the system is blind and that achieving justice and fairness is the goal of all judges. Some (maybe many) yes, all no

Typically, routine, day-to-day cases proceed properly and more or less fairly. But when and where more politically, economically and socially important issues are at stake, and the more powerful the parties (or a party), the more likely a judge's biases and such will arise in a case. Judges are not stupid and they know how to cover their tracks and cloak any irregularities and shenanigans in legal procedure and in their interpretation and application of substantive law to the "facts". And, 80% to 90% of the time what a trial judge does is upheld by the "higher" courts that review what the trial judge did.

Discovery is supposed to be a two-way street. Theoretically, all sides in a civil lawsuit are required to disclose all relevant information to each other. In federal court, (and some state courts) there are mandatory rule 26 "initial disclosures' that a party is required to make to the other parties without a request for such information. Beyond that, a party must request information in the form of such discovery tools as interrogatories, requests for production, request for inspection, and depositions.

There are a number of exceptions to the disclosure or discovery requirements, such as attorney-client privileged information and in civil cases, trade secrets can get some protection. However, as to trade secrets, the remedy there is for a judge to require the disclosure, but make it subject to a protective or confidentiality order so that it is not released to the general public and/or competitors. Judges don't always do that. They sometimes do not require the disclosure at all.

The judge will have the discretion to decide what is discoverable, and if there is an evidentiary hearing or trial, what is admissible into evidence. What is discoverable prior to any hearing or trial and what is admissible into evidence at any hearing or trial are two different things. Discovery is much broader. Admissibility is much narrower. Judges are more likely to allow discovery, but then at any hearing or trial they may not allow some information into evidence for any number of reasons within the judge's discretion. What matters in any legitimate court case is not just what is discovered, but what is discovered and admissible. However, if the purpose of a case is not to take it to trial, but rather to discover information for other purposes, such as political purposes, then it does not matter if the information is admitted into evidence.

It is my opinion that Dominion does not expect to recover any money from Powell and that it really does not want to pursue the case to trial. Rather, it wants to destroy Powell emotionally and financially and has unleashed its lawyers for that purpose. It may as you seem to suggest seek to use discovery to get the goods and identify the players and such. But that is pretty much already out there. However, there are likely people operating behind the scenes who "they" want to identify for political purposes and the like, not for legitimate litigation purposes.

Thank you Satori ... and thanks for that clarification. In essence when you are describing and explaining the processes it is just that an explanation

and not an assertion on your part that:

"the system is blind and that achieving justice and fairness is the goal of all judges"

nor that indeed, this is the way it is going to go ...

because if that assumption were to be your belief i'd have to serioulsy question your judgment! hahaha! ... no ... but really i would have :Angel:

so the distinction is important ...

and i agree wholeheartedly ...

and thank you wholeheartedly as well!
:flower:

Satori
13th January 2021, 18:31
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

yes, via discovery...assuming this goes to court and doesn't get bounced via a technicality like everything else seems to be.


I agree generally with Target. But I will add that this case is not likely to get bounced, at least not right out of the gate like the cases brought for Trump, because it is brought by Dominion against Powell, not by Powell or her client against Dominion.

Also, the claims are different and more traditional and well-established. That is, they do not directly challenge the election steal, excuse me, results. I understand the claims against her are essentially defamation and injury to business. (I have not read the complaint.)

As far as discovery, the rules exist for Powell to discover the evidence necessary to defend the claims against her, which defense is at its core truth. But, the judge has the power to put limits on that. I expect dominion will resist any discovery that opens up the black box and provides transparency for Powell to defend herself and prove her statements are true. The will claim such things as trade secret, confidentiality, immunity, and that state secrets and national security security are implicated.

It will be up to the judge to sort out discovery disputes. Hopefully, but remains to be seen, a fair and honest judge has been or will be assigned to the case.

Powell may have counterclaims she will bring against Dominion too. See may also seek to join or add other parties to the lawsuit. This will also provide grounds for discovery; if her claims, if any, are not dismissed.

If I were her I’d try to get the case dismissed, but that will be hard, and failing that, keep it as simple as possible and not add parties. There will be an army of lawyers working against her as it is and she would do well to not cause more of them to step on the field of play.

so what, if any, would be the ramifications of her electing disclosure to others?

because they will do EXACTLY what you said, and in fact, may be THE motive.

which is, through discovery, find out exactly what it is that she has. they must have a pretty good idea, but they don't KNOW

this suit is precisely the opportunity to find out, and to find out in PRIVACY, as it MUST be disclosed through the process of discovery.

so it was a very smart move on their part to find out the extent and limits of the "goods" at her disposal.

the other factor is precisely what you mentioned, the judge will have discretion to rule whether or not the evidence she has is not just admissible or not? but whether it will fall under "national security" and therefore be denied (repressed).

IF (when) that happens? will she now ALSO be barred, prohibited from disclosure of said evidence to the public or ever again.

if not? THAT is their game. they will find out exactly what she has, the judge will deny its admissibility and cite National Security issues and in the process bury the evidence forever

the dems will spin it as "see she had nothing"

and i notice as you speak and describe the judicial process i sense an underlying confidence or assumption that it WILL be on the up and up. is that truly your perspective? because it sure seemed that the judgments and opinions of the judges were a foregone conclusion in the previous cases ... and were i Dominion?

i would not consider bringing a case forth to which i had NOT assurances of cooperation from the judge. THAT would be matter number one on my list to check off ...

always, always look forward to your reply and hope everyone at Avalon understands how fortunate we are to have access to your experience and your opinion.

thanks Satori, really appreciate it and you!

First let me address your sense of my confidence or assumption that the judicial process in Powell's case will be on the up and up. I do not think for a minute that things are always on the up and up within our judicial system. In fact, the longer I've been in this racket, the less confident I am that the system is blind and that achieving justice and fairness is the goal of all judges. Some (maybe many) yes, all no

Typically, routine, day-to-day cases proceed properly and more or less fairly. But when and where more politically, economically and socially important issues are at stake, and the more powerful the parties (or a party), the more likely a judge's biases and such will arise in a case. Judges are not stupid and they know how to cover their tracks and cloak any irregularities and shenanigans in legal procedure and in their interpretation and application of substantive law to the "facts". And, 80% to 90% of the time what a trial judge does is upheld by the "higher" courts that review what the trial judge did.

Discovery is supposed to be a two-way street. Theoretically, all sides in a civil lawsuit are required to disclose all relevant information to each other. In federal court, (and some state courts) there are mandatory rule 26 "initial disclosures' that a party is required to make to the other parties without a request for such information. Beyond that, a party must request information in the form of such discovery tools as interrogatories, requests for production, request for inspection, and depositions.

There are a number of exceptions to the disclosure or discovery requirements, such as attorney-client privileged information and in civil cases, trade secrets can get some protection. However, as to trade secrets, the remedy there is for a judge to require the disclosure, but make it subject to a protective or confidentiality order so that it is not released to the general public and/or competitors. Judges don't always do that. They sometimes do not require the disclosure at all.

The judge will have the discretion to decide what is discoverable, and if there is an evidentiary hearing or trial, what is admissible into evidence. What is discoverable prior to any hearing or trial and what is admissible into evidence at any hearing or trial are two different things. Discovery is much broader. Admissibility is much narrower. Judges are more likely to allow discovery, but then at any hearing or trial they may not allow some information into evidence for any number of reasons within the judge's discretion. What matters in any legitimate court case is not just what is discovered, but what is discovered and admissible. However, if the purpose of a case is not to take it to trial, but rather to discover information for other purposes, such as political purposes, then it does not matter if the information is admitted into evidence.

It is my opinion that Dominion does not expect to recover any money from Powell and that it really does not want to pursue the case to trial. Rather, it wants to destroy Powell emotionally and financially and has unleashed its lawyers for that purpose. It may as you seem to suggest seek to use discovery to get the goods and identify the players and such. But that is pretty much already out there. However, there are likely people operating behind the scenes who "they" want to identify for political purposes and the like, not for legitimate litigation purposes.

I do want to add one more thing about Dominion's motives for suing Powell and my belief that the lawsuit is designed to harass and destroy her, not to recover money or obtain other relief. And, the point I'm about to make will inure to Powell's benefit if she moves to dismiss the case, which she very likely will.

The point is this, and I believe it applies in all states and in DC: A lawyer who is representing a client in potential or pending litigation has virtually absolute immunity from liability for any and all statements and other conduct reasonably related to the lawyers representation of the client in the potential or pending lawsuit. Thus, any alleged defamatory statements or such that Powell allegedly made in the conduct of the lawsuits she brought for her client(s) are privileged and may not form the basis for any liability on her part.

So, if Powell files a motion to dismiss, I expect she will rely on that law, assuming it applies where this lawsuit is pending (DC I believe) to dismiss the case. The issue will be whether any alleged defamatory statements were made and whether if so they were reasonably related to her representation of her client. That is a fact test and would require discovery on the issues.

I have not read the complaint against her, but I'm willing to bet a dollar to a hole in a donut, that there are allegations in the complaint that her statements were not reasonably related to her representation, but rather where motivated by a desire to injure Dominion and were known or should have been known to Powell to be false.

Why aren't Linn Wood and Rudy G being sued? Or are they?

iota
13th January 2021, 18:53
I have not read the complaint against her, but I'm willing to bet a dollar to a hole in a donut, that there are allegations in the complaint that her statements were not reasonably related to her representation, but rather where motivated by a desire to injure Dominion and were known or should have been known to Powell to be false.

Why aren't Linn Wood and Rudy G being sued? Or are they?

no they are not as of this moment, however, the FBI has declared intent to pursue investigation into Lin Wood in respect to allegations that he made statements on Parler that call for Mike Pence’s death by firing squad after Twitter suspension

Wood is an attorney, and, if i remember correctly, he phrased the remarks couched between Treason or sedition

death by a firing squad happens to be the penalty

he is not responsible for that fact

so i'm certain that will be the loophole he will be exonerated through and he planned in the first place

similar instances are also being looked into of Rudy

but THIS is WHY the distinction of what is a legitimate action
(the definitions and explanations of the law you provide us)
and what is actually transpiring are necessary

and we need BOTH


"this is the law and this is what i think they are likely doing"

and what i know, is that said law and its ramifications and consequences for actions of hatred, violence, insurrection, defamation etc (the list is exhaustive) have been not largely, but COMPLETELY ignored in regards to our president

and now there is a full force attempt to censor and silence ALL that would point this out

therefore, it NEEDS to be pointed out otherwise, through silence, we are complicit in the "Spin"

repeatedly may i add
(refute ALL narratives that are indignant, with the hypocrisy and FACTS)

but in my initial post, i was wondering

1.) now that there is pending litigation is she (Powell) bound by any restraints in disclosure of the evidence she has

2.) if the judge rules any of it to be matters of national security will that prohibit its release and disclosure at a future time? (past lawsuit)

3.) THAT perhaps being the case, what would be the consequences of her distributing the evidence she has to others (like kill switch) in case the future imposes constraints upon her ability to do so?

PS UPDATE


I'm willing to bet a dollar to a hole in a donut, that there are allegations in the complaint that her statements were not reasonably related to her representation, but rather where motivated by a desire to injure Dominion and were known or should have been known to Powell to be false.


i assume this point to be the determining factor as to whether the suit will, in fact, proceed through the judicial process or be her cause to call for dismissal ... pretty certain both sides will present strong argument for their respective points ,,,

:shielddeflect:

Satori
13th January 2021, 19:38
I have not read the complaint against her, but I'm willing to bet a dollar to a hole in a donut, that there are allegations in the complaint that her statements were not reasonably related to her representation, but rather where motivated by a desire to injure Dominion and were known or should have been known to Powell to be false.

Why aren't Linn Wood and Rudy G being sued? Or are they?

no they are not as of this moment, however, the FBI has declared intent to pursue investigation into Lin Wood in respect to allegations that he made statements on Parler that they allege call for Mike Pence’s death by firing squad after Twitter suspension

Wood is an attorney, and, if i remember correctly, he phrased the remarks couched between Treason or sedition

death by a firing squad happens to be the penalty

he is not responsible for that fact

so i'm certain that will be the loophole he will be exonerated through and he planned in the first place

similar instances are also being looked into of Rudy

but THIS is WHY the distinction of what is a legitimate action
(the definitions and explanations of the law you provide us)
and what is actually transpiring are necessary

and we need BOTH


"this is the law and this is what i think they are likely doing"

and what i know, is that said law and its ramifications and consequences for actions of hatred, violence, insurrection, defamation etc (the list is exhaustive) have been not largely, but COMPLETELY ignored in regards to our president

and now there is a full force attempt to censor and silence ALL that would point this out

therefore, it NEEDS to be pointed out otherwise, through silence, we are complicit in the "Spin"

repeatedly may i add
(refute ALL narratives that are indignant, with the hypocrisy and FACTS)

but in my initial post, i was wondering

1.) now that there is pending litigation is she (Powell) bound by any restraints in disclosure of the evidence she has

2.) if the judge rules any of it to be matters of national security will that prohibit its release and disclosure at a future time? (past lawsuit)

3.) THAT perhaps being the case, what would be the consequences of her distributing the evidence she has to others (like kill switch) in case the future imposes constraints upon her ability to do so?

PS UPDATE


I'm willing to bet a dollar to a hole in a donut, that there are allegations in the complaint that her statements were not reasonably related to her representation, but rather where motivated by a desire to injure Dominion and were known or should have been known to Powell to be false.


i assume this point to be the determining factor as to whether the suit will, in fact, proceed through the judicial process or be her cause to call for dismissal ... pretty certain both sides will present strong argument for their respective points ,,,

:shielddeflect:

iota,

Forgive me but I do not have enough information to answer these questions in a meaningful way.

What I could add would be too abstract and theoretical and not tethered to operative facts.

Also, I have no information about the existence of, or the details and terms of, any orders that may bear upon the question of what information is subject to an order prohibiting the use or dissemination of any evidence she has.

I tend to think there is/are no such order(s) because she has been fairly forthcoming with select information, including the 270 page "report" she released a while back. I put "report" in quotes because in my view what she put out there was simply a series of documents. It's more of a compilation, than a report.

The Moss Trooper
13th January 2021, 19:53
SATORI: Is it at all conceivable that Sidney Powell being sued will bring to light the evidence she claims to have that couldn't get heard in court before 5 Jan?

This article claims Dominion is suing Powell for 1.3 billion:

https://reason.com/2021/01/11/sidney-powells-loony-election-claims-which-gave-birth-to-the-deadly-capitol-invasion-may-finally-cost-her/

yes, via discovery...assuming this goes to court and doesn't get bounced via a technicality like everything else seems to be.


I agree generally with Target. But I will add that this case is not likely to get bounced, at least not right out of the gate like the cases brought for Trump, because it is brought by Dominion against Powell, not by Powell or her client against Dominion.

Also, the claims are different and more traditional and well-established. That is, they do not directly challenge the election steal, excuse me, results. I understand the claims against her are essentially defamation and injury to business. (I have not read the complaint.)

As far as discovery, the rules exist for Powell to discover the evidence necessary to defend the claims against her, which defense is at its core truth. But, the judge has the power to put limits on that. I expect dominion will resist any discovery that opens up the black box and provides transparency for Powell to defend herself and prove her statements are true. The will claim such things as trade secret, confidentiality, immunity, and that state secrets and national security security are implicated.

It will be up to the judge to sort out discovery disputes. Hopefully, but remains to be seen, a fair and honest judge has been or will be assigned to the case.

Powell may have counterclaims she will bring against Dominion too. See may also seek to join or add other parties to the lawsuit. This will also provide grounds for discovery; if her claims, if any, are not dismissed.

If I were her I’d try to get the case dismissed, but that will be hard, and failing that, keep it as simple as possible and not add parties. There will be an army of lawyers working against her as it is and she would do well to not cause more of them to step on the field of play.

so what, if any, would be the ramifications of her electing disclosure to others?

because they will do EXACTLY what you said, and in fact, may be THE motive.

which is, through discovery, find out exactly what it is that she has. they must have a pretty good idea, but they don't KNOW

this suit is precisely the opportunity to find out, and to find out in PRIVACY, as it MUST be disclosed through the process of discovery.

so it was a very smart move on their part to find out the extent and limits of the "goods" at her disposal.

the other factor is precisely what you mentioned, the judge will have discretion to rule whether or not the evidence she has is not just admissible or not? but whether it will fall under "national security" and therefore be denied (repressed).

IF (when) that happens? will she now ALSO be barred, prohibited from disclosure of said evidence to the public or ever again.

if not? THAT is their game. they will find out exactly what she has, the judge will deny its admissibility and cite National Security issues and in the process bury the evidence forever

the dems will spin it as "see she had nothing"

and i notice as you speak and describe the judicial process i sense an underlying confidence or assumption that it WILL be on the up and up. is that truly your perspective? because it sure seemed that the judgments and opinions of the judges were a foregone conclusion in the previous cases ... and were i Dominion?

i would not consider bringing a case forth to which i had NOT assurances of cooperation from the judge. THAT would be matter number one on my list to check off ...

always, always look forward to your reply and hope everyone at Avalon understands how fortunate we are to have access to your experience and your opinion.

thanks Satori, really appreciate it and you!

First let me address your sense of my confidence or assumption that the judicial process in Powell's case will be on the up and up. I do not think for a minute that things are always on the up and up within our judicial system. In fact, the longer I've been in this racket, the less confident I am that the system is blind and that achieving justice and fairness is the goal of all judges. Some (maybe many) yes, all no

Typically, routine, day-to-day cases proceed properly and more or less fairly. But when and where more politically, economically and socially important issues are at stake, and the more powerful the parties (or a party), the more likely a judge's biases and such will arise in a case. Judges are not stupid and they know how to cover their tracks and cloak any irregularities and shenanigans in legal procedure and in their interpretation and application of substantive law to the "facts". And, 80% to 90% of the time what a trial judge does is upheld by the "higher" courts that review what the trial judge did.

Discovery is supposed to be a two-way street. Theoretically, all sides in a civil lawsuit are required to disclose all relevant information to each other. In federal court, (and some state courts) there are mandatory rule 26 "initial disclosures' that a party is required to make to the other parties without a request for such information. Beyond that, a party must request information in the form of such discovery tools as interrogatories, requests for production, request for inspection, and depositions.

There are a number of exceptions to the disclosure or discovery requirements, such as attorney-client privileged information and in civil cases, trade secrets can get some protection. However, as to trade secrets, the remedy there is for a judge to require the disclosure, but make it subject to a protective or confidentiality order so that it is not released to the general public and/or competitors. Judges don't always do that. They sometimes do not require the disclosure at all.

The judge will have the discretion to decide what is discoverable, and if there is an evidentiary hearing or trial, what is admissible into evidence. What is discoverable prior to any hearing or trial and what is admissible into evidence at any hearing or trial are two different things. Discovery is much broader. Admissibility is much narrower. Judges are more likely to allow discovery, but then at any hearing or trial they may not allow some information into evidence for any number of reasons within the judge's discretion. What matters in any legitimate court case is not just what is discovered, but what is discovered and admissible. However, if the purpose of a case is not to take it to trial, but rather to discover information for other purposes, such as political purposes, then it does not matter if the information is admitted into evidence.

It is my opinion that Dominion does not expect to recover any money from Powell and that it really does not want to pursue the case to trial. Rather, it wants to destroy Powell emotionally and financially and has unleashed its lawyers for that purpose. It may as you seem to suggest seek to use discovery to get the goods and identify the players and such. But that is pretty much already out there. However, there are likely people operating behind the scenes who "they" want to identify for political purposes and the like, not for legitimate litigation purposes.


I'll never forget the words of the Bailiff to me before sentencing before the Royal Court. In response to my protest, he retorted, " Mr *****, this is a court of law........ Not a court of justice"

It really was a "lightbulb" moment for me, because there and then, I knew I was in deep sh*t!


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Eric J (Viking)
13th January 2021, 21:01
THE BIGGEST STING OPERATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD?

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Viking

ExomatrixTV
13th January 2021, 23:06
BREAKING: Raquel Rodriguez ARRESTED by Texas AG on FOUR felony charges relating to voter fraud!

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WATCH: Veritas Journalist Captures Exact Moment Judge ORDERS Steel Barriers Come Down In Fulton Co.

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source (https://www.bitchute.com/video/55yRxkR7QZw/)

iota
14th January 2021, 02:09
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Here Al Dershowitz eloquently and in GREAT detail argues against the impeachment citing fact, precedent, intent in the origination and formulation OF the Impeachment Process and presented evidence to the effect both at the time of formation and shortly thereafter.

he presented law

ALL of the FACTS he presented were unceremoniously ignored

and they proceeded with the actions that they intended.

THIS is what has been going on.

THIS was the basis of my question

when we want to understand what is transpiring

we need to understand TWO levels

one, what is the law

two what they are doing IN SPITE OF the law

at this point, understanding of the law is occurring more and more as "forrmality" since it is going to be interpreted AND acted upon AS THEY see fit TO interpret and act upon it

when Satori responded he didn't have a meaningful way of responding to my question, he was correct in his assessment as there IS NO MEANINGFUL way to provide a response at THIS time. i'm certain that those that did not fully understand interpreted that to mean my questions were not meaningful, that assumption would be actually amusing

and IF he were to provide a response?

under which factors?

he is and DOES provide us with exceptional answers as to WHAT the law IS and what it is designed to do and permitted under the law

however, NONE of that has played out

you all DO understand that, right?

if you don't then simply take ANY of the allegations and accusations now leveled against our president or against us his supporters

and were you to do research (which means NEVER USING GOOGLE)

you would find a disproportionate amount of instances to levels of unprecedented heights

almost akin to a child vs a murderer

taking action both in scope, degree AND continuation AND repetition

if they are furious that we demonstrated ONCE

show them THE DOZENS of times they ANGRILY and FURIOUSLY demonstrated

we did it because we have EVIDENCE of FRAUD

they did it because they wanted to get their way

they didn't want Brett Kavanaugh .. and THAT entitled them to STORM our capital

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WE DID NOT want a Chinese asset (tons of video of China openly celebrating and bragging that this is the case)

or compromised criminal (that like cohorts hillary and hussein will NEVER be investigated)

and it went on and on and on and on


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BUT ... those were called "rallies"

ours ... ONE time for a few hours ... is being labeled terrorist action

the BLM is STILL labeled as "mostly peaceful"

this was JUST SIX DAYS earlier ... NEW YEAR's


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just ONE of them, just ONE "peaceful demonstration"? ~ lasted SEVEN days and COST over 2 BILLION in damages ..

so you see why i would ask and would be completely negligent if i did not consider the fact that, there is the law, and there is the application OF said law which today are TWO different things

but make no mistake ... this is only because we allowed it ..

we don't HAVE to continue doing that ..

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