MASSIVE FRAUD: Major Lawsuits (update: all foiled so far)

[pueblo]

Seems to be legit, not sure what the implications are though...

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1349523056302166018?s=20

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-amending-executive-order-13959-addressing-threat-securities-investments-finance-communist-chinese-military-companies/

[Eric J (Viking)]

Trump Gives Remarks from Oval Office

Short video.

https://electionwiz.com/2021/01/13/trump-gives-remarks-from-oval-office/


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From SOTN

Trump Will Retain Power (Video)
Posted on January 13, 2021 by State of the Nation

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=47482


Viking

[greybeard]

Rep. Matt Gaetz - House ERUPTS as Gaetz Screams at Democrats for Encouraging Lighting Cities on Fire


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OGpZ1CXG9g

[Eric J (Viking)]

Lt. Gen. Tom McInerney: World War III has started (Video)
Posted on January 14, 2021

Potus cannot walk away from this...Links to China... let’s hope he has the support to do this... The depravity and corruption is so deep Biden just cannot get in... a lot more than China involved in this... a lot more countries involved... potus has to put his foot down...bring in insurrection act and military tribunals... and much more.

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=47640

Viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Mike Adams update....so much info out there it difficult to keep up... What’s true and what’s not...is he/her dis info...jeeez only 7 days to go before the gong starts... is Trump keeping his cards close to his chest or has he thrown the towel in...??

by: Mike Adams

(Natural News) On the surface, it appears certain that Trump has thrown in the towel and is preparing for Biden to be sworn in as president. If that’s true, then all conservatives, Christians, gun owners and Trump supporters across America must prepare to be persecuted like never before. The death squads will be initiated by Democrats as soon as they complete their illegal coup and seize the White House.

But another point of view on current events notes the many anomalies that cannot be swept under the rug, such as the fact that now 20,000 armed National Guard troops are descending on Washington D.C. even though Joe Biden won’t even be inaugurated there. He will be sworn in, if that happens, in front of a green screen in a studio where he can attempt several takes to maybe get the words right.

With Italy’s government now collapsing, and the Pope rumored to have been arrested, and a raid having taken place on the Leonardo company that provided the satellite infrastructure used by the deep state to steal the election, it’s obvious that major events are under way on the world stage, all pointing to something much bigger taking place in the next seven days.

Some people close to Trump are in a state of despair, according to reports, but others are defiant and remain convinced that Trump will take office on the 20th (or soon thereafter).

We don’t know the final answer to all this, but we know the importance of proceeding in a way that keeps us in faith and personal integrity. If we are about to march through the fire and be persecuted, then let us do so with absolute adherence to the principles that our wicked opponents despise: Truth, honesty and obedience to God.

In today’s Situation Update, I cover:

The coming persecution of conservatives, and what it means for all those who hold Christian values.
McConnell’s delusion and why he thinks he can save the GOP by throwing Trump under the bus.
Why the FBI is setting up false flag staged attacks on 50 state capitol buildings.
Why nearly everything you see from the media, the FBI and Big Tech is pure theater for weak minds.
How the FBI will use left-wing crisis actors to dress up as Trump supporters and carry out staged attacks while CNN’s cameras capture the theatrics to further the dark spell of deception on the world.
Why most people are living under an actual spell of witchery, and why this spell requires constant fear to maintain, which is why the media is incessantly promoting fear.
How to break the spell of fear and scarcity and set yourself free.
If Biden is sworn in, he will use the staged violence to call for nationwide gun confiscation. The purpose of this is to provoke civil war, which is what China wants to occur in the United States in order to weaken the country before they attack.
Gen. McInerney says World War III has started. China used biological weapons, cyber warfare and now psychological operations (and vote rigging) to attack the United States. Many agents in the US — such as the FBI and most lawmakers — went along with it because they too are compromised by the CCP.
Discussion of the recent Joint Chiefs letter that claims Joe Biden will be sworn in as president. Many elements of the military do not report to the Joint Chiefs. SOF report directly to DoD head Chris Miller.
Why we have much to thank Trump for, including forcing the wickedness of the radical Left to come out in full view. Trump forced the media, Big Tech and the insane left-wing culture to reveal their true demonic, authoritarian agendas. Trump also gave us four years to prepare for what’s coming next.
Why Pelosi claims Trump might order a nuclear strike: Because she is working with the deep state to threaten Trump with a nuclear bomb or dirty bomb false flag operation on U.S. soil.
AirBnb is banning all conservatives. So are insurance companies, banks and airlines. Conservatives are the new oppressed class in society.
How news networks like CBN propagate lies by deceptively editing Trump’s speech to falsely make it appear like he was calling for violence at the capitol building.
PBS Principal Counsel Michael Beller caught inciting violence against Trump supporters in a radical leftwing rant (Project Veritas bombshell).
Trump signs new executive orders and directives for hot fusion mobile energy devices that can power spacecraft and help humans colonize other planets. This same technology can be used to provide essentially “free energy” to humanity here on Earth.
The White House also launches an Artificial Intelligence (AI) initiative.
Listen to the full podcast below. Also note that we are now posting audio MP3 files of each podcast, so you can download to your computer or mobile device.

The audio MP3 file for today’s Situation Update (Jan 13th) is found at this link. (On Windows, right click and choose “Save As” to download to your computer.)

Brighteon.com/0e812c70-0eee-400e-be95-19fc7a2cf916



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https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-13-situation-update-jan-13th-2021-competing-trump-scenarios.html

Viking

[Savannah]

Executive Order on Amending Executive Order 13959–Addressing the Threat from Securities Investments that Finance Communist Chinese Military Companies


Interesting use of words in this EO

"People’s Republic of China’s military-industrial complex"

[ramus]

Trump Gives Remarks from Oval Office

Short video.

https://electionwiz.com/2021/01/13/trump-gives-remarks-from-oval-office/


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From SOTN

Trump Will Retain Power (Video)
Posted on January 13, 2021 by State of the Nation

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=47482


Viking

Very good summary of what is going on...could not say it more !!!!!

Here is another way to Scott McKay's broadcast: Trump Will Retain Power

https://vimeo.com/channels/1419259/414919664

The Tipping Point.... on REVOLUTION RADIO. 8:00--10:00pm est

[greybeard]

Greene to Introduce Articles of Impeachment Against Joe Biden on January 21 Over Abuse of Power (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-gop-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-introduce-articles-impeachment-joe-biden-january-21-abuse-power-video/

Freshman Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) announced on Wednesday night she will introduce articles of impeachment against Joe Biden on January 21, 2021 over his abuse of power.

Biden’s son Hunter Biden is currently under investigation over the criminal contents contained on his laptop computer that was turned over to federal investigators last year.#
Marjorie Taylor Greene made the announcement tonight on Greg Kelly Reports.

Rep. Greene told Greg Kelly, “We cannot have a President of the United States that is willing to abuse the power of the office of the presidency and be easily bought off by foreign government, Chinese energy companies, Ukrainian energy companies. So on January 21st I will be filing articles of impeachment on Joe Biden.”

And for millions of Americans it will be the first time they’ve ever heard about Joe and Hunter Biden and their deals with China or Ukraine!

Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene added, “We don’t let criminals serve in our office… We don’t need a man serving in the presidency of the United States who is guilty of committing the crime of abuse of power and is under investigation.”

Via Greg Kelly Reports:

[Eric J (Viking)]

BREAKING: Trump Team’s Peter Navarro Drops Third Major Report on Historic Election Fraud — Confirms “Trump Won”

Peter Navarro from the Trump Team just released his third report from the 2020 Election – this one proving President Trump won the election.

The Populist Press just reported that Peter Navarro from the Trump Team has released a report showing President Trump won the 2020 Election.

Volume 3 of the Navarro Report is designed to serve as a capstone to what has been a comprehensive analysis of the question: Was the 2020 presidential election stolen from Donald J. Trump? In this report, we provide the most up-to-date statistical “receipts” with respect to the potential number of illegal votes in each battleground state.

In the report it begins by discussing the first and second reports and then shares this:

Volume 3 of the Navarro Report is designed to serve as a capstone to what has been a comprehensive analysis of the question: Was the 2020 presidential election stolen from Donald J. Trump? In this report, we provide the most up-to-date statistical “receipts” with respect to the potential number of illegal votes in each battleground state.

The broader goal of this final installment of the Navarro Report is to provide investigators with a well-documented tally of potentially illegal votes on a state-by-state and category-by-category basis. This tally is presented in Figure One on the next page of this report. Note that each number in this figure has a corresponding endnote identifying the source of the number. Note further that we have taken a conservative approach to the count of potentially illegal ballots.

The report continues:

In considering these truths, let us never forget two things: (1) The Democrat Party and its operatives stole the 1960 Presidential Election – it happened then and it can happen again; and (2) it took decades for historians to finally acknowledge the 1960 version of the Immaculate Deception in the face of the same kind of virtue-signaling and cancel culture pressures we are witnessing today.

Despite a similar quest to silence Republican and conservative voices today, 74 million Americans who voted for President Donald J. Trump have the right to a full investigation and bipartisan search for truth. If, however, the Democrat Party, RINO elements of the Republican Party, the anti-Trump mainstream media, and the out-of-control censoring social media oligarchs do not cease and desist from their efforts to suppress the search for truth about the 2020 election, history will judge all of these people, corporations, and institutions in the harshest possible manner.

Here is the list of irregularities and illegalities by state as provided in the report:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Trump-Navarro-Report-3-Illegalities-and-Irregularities.jpg

Based on the analysis and the granular, documented quantities of illegal votes in this report, the only thing that must happen now as we engage in a peaceful transition of power is a FULL investigation of this matter.

• The Department of Justice should immediately appoint a Special Counsel BEFORE the Biden administration begins.
• State legislators and Attorneys Generals in the battleground states, particularly Republican states, must launch similar investigations.

Absent a full investigation, we as a nation run the risk of institutionalizing a rigged electoral system in which a large segment of America will no longer have faith in. That’s why clearing the air about the 2020 presidential election is not just about Donald J. Trump but rather about something much larger and of far more import —the future of our election system, the public perception of that system, and ultimately the future of our free and democratic Republic.

We need more than a Special Counsel. This election was stolen.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-trump-teams-peter-navarro-drops-third-report-providing-proof-trump-won/

Viking

[greybeard]

Newsletter 355, 06.01.2020: Money Talks VI and the worldwide lawsuits

(this is an ad-hoc translation by Paul Charles Gregory BDÜ of the original German text by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich)

Table of Contents:

Status of the PCR lawsuit at the Regional Court of Berlin

Lawsuit on PCR test submitted in New York

Portugal and Ecuador show Germany who the real banana republic is

Canada submits first class action suit for compensation which will be an international class action

Further points: Lawsuit against the EU Commission for its approval of the vaccine to be declared null & void; constitutional complaint lodged against the measures by a German judge

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Despite everything, or indeed in view of everything, let us first wish you all a cheerful New Year for 2021. Before we inform you about the state of play of the Corona lawsuits, and in particular the class actions, here is a reminder of the background against which all this is happening:

The hearings conducted by the Berlin Corona Committee since July 10, 2020, and attended by some one hundred internationally prominent scientists, medics, economists, lawyers and people badly affected, have determined – as of today – that at no point was the Corona scandal about health. This is because:

As explained in the last newsletter, the danger presented by this allegedly new virus can be compared to that of influenza – this is the conclusion not only of studies by Prof. John Ioannidis of Stanford University but also the assessment of the World Health Organisation.

The Drosten-PCR-Tests, which were devised in January 2020, are not remotely suitable for determining whether someone is infected or not, despite being recommended as the global Gold Standard for determining infection by the WHO; it should be noted that the leadership of this organisation is under the financial control of China and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (the WHO certainly has good employees – as too does the Robert-Koch Institute, despite its incompetent management).

In a retraction paper, a score of highly regarded international scientists have called on the editors of the journal which published the PCR tests as a measurement method for infections to withdraw the mischief forthwith. This test is not only scientific nonsense, but was obviously designed to create as many false positives as possible and so spread panic in the world. This English language retraction paper has been viewed about 18 million times:

www.cormandrostenreview.com

Furthermore, a second assertion made in January 2020 by Drosten that there are asymptomatic infections is false. These do not exist, as documented most recently by a major survey of ten million people from Wuhan of all places:

https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-020-19802-w

A person who has no symptoms is healthy. This means that no-one need be fearful of people without symptoms or force them to wear masks, and no-one must be frightened that a positive test means that the person who has tested positive is infected. Horror pictures of hospitals with beds in the corridors are again doing the rounds – such scenes occur every year during a completely normal influenza outbreak (we will be glad to make available a kaleidoscope with such pictures of recent years taken from the mainstream media): such pictures are used solely in order to spread panic. There is still no excess mortality in Germany – it is perfectly normal for more people to die in winter.

So what is really at issue, if there is no health problem different to the normal surge of influenza? Here, too, we have been able to form an impression from the hearings we have conducted and from more ancillary information.

As of today, it must be assumed that, in September 2019, the Davos clique, as we call them, was about to go up in smoke. This group of self-appointed corporate elites and top politicians has met annually for at least 20 years under the auspices of the World Economic Forum (WEF), which is a private organisation. What happened was that, in September 2019, there was a further financial crash, even bigger than that of the Lehman crisis 12 years ago. This was reported on only briefly (by, among others and very competently, the German weekly broadsheet Die Zeit), after which the reporting went silent again. The financial system was again on the brink of collapse because there was a menace of it becoming visible that, for at least 20 years, its sole purpose had been to plunder the taxpayers to the benefit of the Mafia-like operations. In other words: to shift the assets of the broad mass of citizens to business concerns. The best example of this are the ‘Cum-ex deals’, which are still unpunished, with the help of which banks, concerns and the super-rich were reimbursed twice or three times for taxes that they had paid just once. It is understandable that it might be possible to have reimbursed a tax payment of € 10 million. But not that instead, 20 or 30 million can be demanded back – this is something that everyone will find obvious, with or without a degree in law. This way the above-mentioned insiders obtained over many years a total of € 38 billion by defrauding the taxpayers. This was only possible because they were given cover by politicians – who over at least the last 20 years in particular have been made compliant by the relevant elites through the private WEF meetings. The fact that the courts in Germany failed to act shows that those mentioned are able, via the political scene, to influence what happens in the courts.

We had long seen that something was amiss during our lawsuits about bank liability in connection with finance for dilapidated buildings. For there, too, it emerged that Deutsche Bank in particular had a direct line to the courts and had made the judges into errand boys without a mind of their own. (Incidentally, the former head of Deutsche Bank, Josef Ackermann, not only met Merkel & Co regularly in Davos but celebrated his sixtieth birthday directly in the chancellory with Merkel.) This explains why German judges – blindly – adopted in their pronouncements the assertion of Deutsche Bank that it was normal for a bank to issue loans without a loan agreement in the hope that, sometime later, it would be possible to conclude a suitable loan contract; the thinking being that the issue of a loan at the request of a potential borrower leads to a loan contract being concluded, yet since, at this time, Deutsche Bank did not have the documents necessary for a valid contract, it was not possible for a court to determine that a contract had come about merely by the funds being made available – because if it had, the Deutsche Bank would have sunk like a stone – except that none of us had imagined that the Deutsche Bank was only one part of the Davos clique, albeit a most important member for purposes of money laundering, and that today we have to reckon with a thoroughly corrupt elite which will stop at nothing.

In his report “Pandemic Games”, Paul Schreyer has described very lucidly this entanglement of corporate “elites” and political “elites,” which has become ever deeper over the last 20 years. There he also illustrates how these elites have been attempting, in a targeted and practised manner, not only to retain illegitimate power but even to extend such power indefinitely with the aid of the most massive and cynical control mechanisms before the objects of these control mechanisms – which is us – can notice and rebel against it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSnJhHOU_28

In his lecture “Why do the lambs not speak up,” Professor Rainer Mausfeld explained in turn (incidentally, already at the beginning of 2019 and so entirely independently of the Corona story) how over many years politics has repeatedly manufactured fear and panic, without the general public realising what was happening, in order to get people to support political decisions which they would otherwise reject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kLzmatet8w

The former US deputy minister of housing construction and investment banker Catherine Austin Fitts explains in her documentary film “Catherine Austin Fitts Full Interview Planet Lockdown” how these “elites” are currently implementing the takeover of the assets of the middle classes or are trying to (because if only 10% of the population notice this, the house of cards will collapse, some thinkers assume an even lower percentage). With the focus here on the USA, but certainly applicable to elsewhere, one of the ways in which this is happening is that, first of all, areas with small and medium-sized businesses, for example restaurants and retailers, are closed via Lockdown so that their owners can no longer make a living, and in particular that they can no longer pay back any loans they have taken out. Although aid packages are announced, these are disbursed only sparingly if at all. Thereafter – and this may apply specifically only to the USA – riots are organised in these areas, which lead to the additional destruction of these businesses so that they can no longer be sold even in a fire sale. Thereafter, investors with tax breaks and from the aforementioned Davos clique can acquire these businesses for next to nothing.

Link to interview with Catherine Austin Fitts
On the lawsuits

As you will know, a number of institutions and law firms have coordinated worldwide in order to have the courts ascertain the background illustrated above and in order afterwards to demand compensation from the ringleaders and concerns for the many who have been harmed by the Drosten-Test lockdown.

The lawsuits being pursued globally are not uncoordinated – they are largely the result of detailed joint planning by the scientists and lawyers involved. The two facts (i) that the Drosten-Test recommended globally by the WHO cannot detect infection, and (ii) that there are no asymptomatic infections (and therefore no real pandemic, at most a PCR casedemic) are of central importance for the outcome of the lawsuits. These facts will cause the house of cards of the pandemic fraudsters to collapse everywhere.

It also follows that whatever is established in the USA, Canada, Australia, Italy, France etc. in this context, (using the help of witnesses and experts, as well as expert opinions) can also be used as evidence in all other courts of the world.
I. Our PCR test complaint on behalf of Dr. Wodarg and the complaint against Drosten and subsequent complaints

The complaint is pending at the Regional Court of Berlin under the file number 27 O 436/20. On account of an “oversight” – which we consider very strange – the complaint was only delivered to the opposing party weeks after its submission. It was alleged that the court fees which we had remitted had erroneously been booked as payment for a final settlement of accounts and only when – after our phone call – this "oversight" was put right was the complaint formally delivered. We are now waiting for the opposing party to reply.

The complaint against Drosten is based on the Cease-and-Desist letter to Drosten:

http://bit.ly/3rcnWlB

(Original German version: http://bit.ly/3nrn62b )

The complaint will be completed in the coming days and then, it too, will be submitted to the Regional Court of Berlin. Together with a group of lawyers we are working on a number of further precedence case complaints, but above all (because this is faster and less expensive) also on many cease and desist letters against those in positions of responsibility. This way we obtain in effect something like a German class action. The cease and desist letters ensure that the visible puppets Drosten, Wieler, but also the members of The Leopoldina National Academy of Sciences and others including the individuals who, in their official capacities, bear personal responsibility for imposition of quarantine and similar measures – the cease and desist letters ensure that these people are put under pressure even if, thereafter, the necessary justification of the claims arising from the letters will need many months. In this time, a few of the precedence case lawsuits (which all concern the PCR tests and asymptomatic infections) will proceed by taking evidence (i.e. questioning of ordinary and expert witnesses and the drafting of expertises). Their results can then be used for rulings on the parallel “dormant” proceedings: the lawsuits dormant until this point of time will not be able to come to any other conclusion since the facts will have been established in the parallel precedence cases.
II. PCR test lawsuit in New York

On December 16, 2020, the US colleagues working with Robert F Kennedy, Jr´s Children’s Health Defense and advised by the same experts as ourselves, submitted a PCR test complaint in New York on behalf of a number of plaintiffs.

Translator’s note: Supplementary information describing the PCR test complaint will be issued shortly as an update to this translation.

III. The Canadian class action, which will develop to be an international class action for all those harmed by the Drosten-PCR-Test-Lockdowns

In the last week Canadian colleagues working with Michael Swinwood have submitted a class action. It is being added to, on the instructions of the court. The complainants initially represented are Indians, a group of small business people and a representative of disabled people. In contrast to all complaints submitted to date, this complaint narrates briefly the historical background of the power structures behind the Davos clique which have been constructed over the course of centuries.

Translator’s note: Supplementary information describing the class action will be issued shortly as an update to this translation.

The Indians (Algonquin) as a complainant group are of special significance since they – together with the Indians of the USA and Latin America – have for centuries been the object of attempted genocide by the conquerors. In the words of Michael Swinwood, “We are all Indians now.”
IV. Court rulings from Portugal and Ecuador

Some weeks ago, an appeal court in Portugal ruled that the PCR tests are not able to ascertain infection let alone illness, which is exactly what the inventor of the PCR tests, the Nobel Prizewinner Kary Mullis repeatedly emphasised - At issue was the case of four German tourists, one of whom had tested positive, and all of whom the authorities had placed under what the court determined to be a kind of house arrest – similar to the action of German administrative courts who follow blindly German fake science; thereby the appeal court confirmed an earlier finding that the quarantine was unconstitutional.

This judgement is a slap in the face for the German administrative courts, which were forced to concede that PCR tests cannot ascertain the presence of infection but nonetheless – in a case of crass perversion of justice – imagined that they had to follow the instructions of the Robert Koch Institute in its reliance on PCR tests and assumed that the healthcare system was on the brink of being overwhelmed (e.g. Higher Administrative Court Münster) – in this respect the Portuguese judgement demoted the German administrative courts to the status of banana republic. This is the shape of lessons in the rule of law by a Portuguese for a German court (the judgement linked to is in Portuguese so may need professional or machine translation).

Translator’s note: this english language report on the Portugal case was not included in the Fuellmich newsletter but has been added here to provide further background on the judgement.http://cognitive-liberty.online/portuguese-court-rules-pcr-test-as-unreliable/

A judgement pronounced on January 2, 2021, by the Constitutional Court of Ecuador ruled that all anti-Corona measures to date are based on mere conjectures without any basis in fact. After nine months it should finally be possible for the acting politicians to communicate clear, evidence-based assertions and base their measures on these. But since this has not happened, all the measures are unconstitutional. Below is the link to the judgement (we shall publish the judgement itself in the original on the website of the Corona Committee).

https://ricapod.buzzsprout.com/1409218/7133344-verfassungsgericht-kippt-ausnahmezustand-wir-machen-auf?fbclid=IwAR2xBQvUz63NMA3VGglPOxC2UCy3Fxfh_tveVRsBUSwFmLkdnsrdCYCwTao

Not one of the German administrative courts ruling on urgent injunctions nor indeed the Federal Constitutional Court have made any such pronouncement for Germany although of course the finding applies equally for Germany. This is a lesson from an Ecuadoran Court in the rule of law for the German courts.
V. Lawsuit to declare void vaccine approval; constitutional complaint by a German judge against the measures of a Federal Government which has practically been kidnapped by the Davos Clique – measures which are destroying democracy and the rule of law

Parallel to all these efforts, the Italian lawyer Dr. Renate Holzeisen is working with us and experts on a lawsuit against the EU Commission to have its approval of vaccines declared null & void – vaccines which are de facto untested and highly dangerous – in the case of the manufacturers Bioentech/Pfizer and Moderna, these are prohibited genetic experiments on humans. Meanwhile, the superbly versed and hard-hitting anti-Mafia public prosecutors are investigating the WHO and its Italian backers. In France work is progressing on a complaint to the Court for Human Rights.

A German judge (who we are in contact with) has submitted a constitutional complaint against the blanket measures of the Federal Government, these measures undermining democracy and the rule of law; the hope here is that – notwithstanding all concrete appearances – the head of the Constitutional Court has retained his independence. We have published these constitutional complaints on our news website and they can be submitted by anyone.

https://2020news.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Verfassungsbeschwerde-Richter-anonym-30122020.pdf

We shall continue to keep you up to date about the legal developments, including with videos (although here there is a danger of them being removed from the platform). At the same time we must work on making the true facts known to as many people as possible. We will win because we must win.

Best regards

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, LL.M.

- Attorney –

PS: With developments in the courts proceeding rapidly, and since we shall probably participate with submissions of our own in at least one of the ongoing Anglo-American lawsuits, we intend in a fortnight to three week to conduct a Zoom conference for the clients we are representing; in this framework we shall discuss matters with some of the attorneys involved here and in the English-speaking countries and also with Professor Schwab; we shall also answer questions coming from the chat.

[alh02]

New video surfaces showing Ruby Freeman, her daughter Shaye Moss, and Ralph Jones Sr (another Fulton County election official) openly discussing and planning the November 4 late night absentee ballot scanning operation.

Fullton County Election Fraud Captured on Video (https://streamable.com/9ni66g)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Would be great wouldn’t it...found this on my travels.

Joe Biden’s Inauguration has been cancelled, President Trump would remain in office and the Chinese Communist Party propaganda media outlets of ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News, CNN and MSNBC would soon be off the airwaves according to President Trump.

“I have invoked the Insurrection Act of 1807 (Section 10 U.S. Code 13 251-255) to address the treasonous rebellion conducted by Democrat and Republican lawmakers, CCP Agents (Chinese Communist Party), FBI, Department of Justice, CIA and others to dismantle the United States of America and it’s Constitution,” President Trump declared on Thursday 14 Jan. “These entities pose a direct threat to national security. I will remain President indefinitely until all domestic enemies are arrested.”

President Trump invoked the Insurrection Act after another assassination attempt on him last Sat. morning 9 Jan. According to his Intel, Chinese Communist Party Agents, the FBI, Department of Justice, CIA and others of the Deep State have – with the help of the Main Stream Media – long been planning to dismantle the US and it’s Constitution.

Of course, none of these treasonous acts have been reported by the corrupt Main Stream Media. Trump had evidence that the MSM was “embedded with CIA and Chinese Communist Party agents whose sole purpose was to direct public opinion toward a Deep State agenda.”

Inauguration Cancelled, Trump Remains in Office, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, CNN, MSNBC to Lose Licenses


More here...with short video...
https://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2021/01/inauguration-cancelled-trump-remains-in-office-abc-nbc-cbs-fox-cnn-msnbc-to-loose-licenses-3223234.html

Viking

[greybeard]

General Flynn Interview - New VP Coming Soon



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5isVdmkCYA

[Eric J (Viking)]

RSBN 🇺🇸
@RSBNetwork
TOMORROW: President Trump will work from early in the morning until late in the evening. He will make many calls and have many meetings.

This, and we’re told you may also get a look at some interesting documents in the coming days...

See you tomorrow from THE SWAMP!
4:06 AM · Jan 15, 2021

Viking

[Gemma13]

Apologies if this was mentioned and I missed it. Found this cool snippet @1:35:18 in this video:
https://rumble.com/vcqw2x-fireside-chat-8-w-lin-wood-war-with-china-are-we-going-to-see-action-did-pe.html

Trump's Jan 8th tweet said "75mil great Americans who voted for me will have a GIANT VOICE long term and into the future".

GIANT VOICE is the name of the military mass notification and emergency alert systems.

https://www.americansignal.com/giant-voice-military-mass-notification-systems/


GIANT VOICE & MILITARY MASS NOTIFICATION SYSTEMS

As a tenured recipient of military contracts for giant voice military mass notification and military emergency alert systems, American Signal Corporation (ASC) maintains a refined understanding of the expectations and qualifications required to execute system installations to the fullest. Our product solutions and installations are designed to meet or exceed the United Facilities Code (UFC) 4-021-01.

[TargeT]

https://www.americansignal.com/giant-voice-military-mass-notification-systems/


GIANT VOICE & MILITARY MASS NOTIFICATION SYSTEMS

As a tenured recipient of military contracts for giant voice military mass notification and military emergency alert systems, American Signal Corporation (ASC) maintains a refined understanding of the expectations and qualifications required to execute system installations to the fullest. Our product solutions and installations are designed to meet or exceed the United Facilities Code (UFC) 4-021-01.


That's just a program that has super loud speakers that cover (audio wise) all populated areas of military bases... I've worked with them since 2000...

I guarantee this is not related to anything.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Transcript of video...

Juan O. Savin

Day Before the Storm

Juan O Savin joins Robert David Steele to discuss where we are.

***

RDS: So, what's your bottom line on what's going to happen tomorrow? What's your prediction? We'll hold you accountable on Saturday.

JOS: He's got more bends and turns and twists than an anaconda snake! Look, there's about five variations that can happen. Without letting cats out of the bag, I believe I know what what is going to happen but I don't want to –

RDS: OK, so just give us five without specifying your choice.

JOS: Well, they're too deep to really get into precisely, because there's overlap –

RDS: OK, so Joe Biden shows up and concedes!

JOS: Uh, I don't believe that's gonna happen. That would be nice if it would, but no. That's one of the five, yes.

RDS: OK, Joe Biden dies in his sleep.

JOS: I wouldn't consider that one of the five but –

RDS: – Alright, so give me the five. One-liners. I mean, people

love you, Juan. You are my absolutely most popular guest.

JOS: Well, the issue is whether or not Congress decertifies some of these votes, whether we ask to go back and have a re-vote in those states, whether – we're not going to allow states not to have a piece of the action here in the eventual final vote.

RDS: Contingent election in states that are de-certified is on the table.

JOS: Is on the table.

RDS: That's a very reasonable proposition.

JOS: Yes and any of these involves slowing things down. In the course of slowing things down for any reason, other investigations continue on. One of the problems with, for example we're going to do a RICO in Nevada. Pat Byrne and I have both thrown money at the attorneys on that and we were going to file, right away and decided to hold, for various reasons and there are sound reasons, not that we don't have the material but the timing is an issue. But the problem with RICO, it doesn't change the outcome on this election.

RDS: You don't win this in the courts.

JOS: Right but that's a longer-term solution to fix the problem. Longer term, with discovery and things like that.

RDS: What legal right does the President have to serve on the 21st or 22nd of January if he has not been confirmed by Congress?

JOS: Well, because again, those executive orders that he did, both at the beginning of this administration and again on the September 12th, 2018; both of those have issues related to fraudulent elections and in that case, as General Flynn has said, a limited state of Martial Law while we're getting to the correct solution is not out of the question.

Now, that's not where the President wants to go and we haven't fully gone through all of the legal mechanisms to give the Justice Department a chance to do what they're supposed to do. But that's what this delay is about: letting the American People see that you can't get to justice through the Justice Department. The Congress is so captured, so corrupted, they can't come up with the vote when everybody in the world can see that.

RDS: I agree with you. I agree with you completely and I have myself made the case, not only for Martial Law and the Insurrection Act but I believe the old guard needs to be developing a regimental order on becoming a firing squad.

No, I'm serious I've posted on that. They've got all the pieces. I mean, they've got the guys with bayonets, they've got the Fife and Drum Corps, they have the Presidential Battery, they have the engineers and medical and so forth. And if you want to execute six governors on the White House Lawn, the old guard is the logical choice.

So one what are your other options? I can see Martial Law, I can see a delay but I think the evidence is compelling enough so that a 10-day audit would force Congress to make the deal on the 16th of January. And that's my preferred option. What are the other options that you see that would stretch this out toward April?

JOS: If the Vice President decides not to show up for some reason and you'd be forced to have to have a delay, because you're not getting to those answers early on. There's a lot of variations, even within those options It's like a chess game. One move causes five other moves to be possible. Two moves cause 20 or 30 potential moves.

But there's maybe four or five likely moves. As you get out, three or four or five moves out, it becomes harder and harder to predict what's going to be the needed best next move or two. So you get too many steps out and you're just too far into the speculation.

This exact moment about is about whether or not uh votes can be certified or not, whether or not there is a decision not to certify and it brings the Biden candidacy down under the 270, which I think is the likeliest scenario.

Some some means comes up where we decide that those votes can't be counted and now the Biden team is under 270.

RDS: That means Pennsylvania and at least one more state.

JOS: Probably Georgia.

RDS: And that makes complete sense to me. In fact, in this document that I shared with you, which is Tinyurl.com/election-indictment shows that Georgia had 1,500,000 million questionable ballots. So I love that. So what I hear you saying is that tomorrow, there could be a successful decertification of two states and then maybe, something that goes on, in terms of the audit.

Do you think Senator Cruz has a real possibility of getting an emergency audit?

JOS: Well you know, I do. There's going to be a huge fight to to allow that to happen. I don't even think that that decision necessarily happens tomorrow. They could drag that out, even there's there's so many different angles but I think Texas has shown that they have the will, the piss-and-vinegar –

RDS: Not just Texas, one third of the country – one third of the states are ready to take this to the wire. Juan, let me ask you a question, because you and I have shared meals together. We know each other. From where I sit, anybody associated with this election fraud needs to either make a deal or die.

From where I sit, we've got them by the balls. Is this just drama?

JOS: Let me say it this way. And you gotta give me a second, Robert to build this out for a second for people. The reality is, you've run engines equipment, where you have to go out. You start it cold. You have to allow it to warm up. The heat soak has to go through the parts. If you don't allow an engine to heat up evenly, you break things. And so you have to bring things up to temperature before you actually go out and put it under a high stress load, etc. and it's just the way it is.

Those few minutes with aircraft and things like that, to allow everything to get evenly heat-soaked can make the difference between breaking and and running smoothly.

The country is coming up to speed. More and more people understand where we're at. I've met with several members of the General Staff, former and current, over the last a couple of months and especially over the last couple weeks and I would have to say universally, they were not completely up to speed.

People are looking to them for how to pivot, what what to think, where to go, because these are people in leadership positions. Same thing with flag officers. And they were not understanding the problem, from a fraudulent election side. They were allowing that the Justice Department, the Congress is going to get to the right answer, so they were standing down. They were being observers, doing what military people generally are required to do.

However, as I've explained in all of those conversations, we are at a critical moment, where it's clear that you can't get to justice through the Justice Department. Many of the political party people on both sides are captured. They're under some type of threat or duress. They are bought, paid for. And so they're biased in a way that serves their master's interests, not the American interests.

In that kind of a situation, "enemies foreign and domestic" comes into play. If we have to slow this down to get to a proper answer, and even if the military has to be called in in certain areas – not everywhere – but in those places where there's an exceptional problem, that's what it's gonna take.

RDS: Enough, in fact even within those states. Just five cities. Juan, what you have done is made the case for...Martial Law and the Insurrection Act and I will point out to everybody -

JOS: Limited, limited, limited –

RDS: I hear you. Limited. Five states, OK – although I'd love to do California –

JOS: – It'd probably be probably a little over a dozen.

RDS: Little over what?

JOS: Little over a dozen.

RDS: A dozen. Well, we were looking at 16 very carefully but what i want to tell the audience as we as we savor this this opportunity to talk to you is that the Insurrection Act and military or Martial Law is designed for when the civilian justice system is clearly and totally broken.

And we're there. That has been demonstrated. The FBI, the CIA, the Department of Justice have all been corrupted beyond belief by the Deep State.

So Juan, I can definitely see the Insurrection Act and Martial Law. I can also see our military, as well as our law enforcement across the country being loyal to the President, the Constitution of the Republic. Do you see any bad things happening tomorrow?

JOS: I don't actually see bad things happening. You know, American people are showing up. The President has allowed the National Guards to be present here, in Washington, DC, just to keep the peace. And you know, as well as anybody that the way you stop a problem is you show a strong front before there's a problem and the bad guys decide to go somewhere else.

You don't wait till there's a problem and the President is taking measures to protect the American people here at this gathering, here in Washington, DC, as well as the rest of the country. We're going to have our interests protected and that's where the President's actually doing his job 100%. His job is to protect the American People, including from a stolen vote.

The bank robbery is not going to succeed. Just because the bank robbers get in the getaway car and get off the bank property and get around the corner doesn't mean we let him get away with it, because, "Darn we didn't get him right at the door! Gee, we were too slow!"

RDS: No, I wouldn't be there. Now, let's go back to those five things, because we agreed this was going to be a 15-minute, 20-minute interview. So, what have you named, in terms of the five things

JOS: You know, there's so many variations. Again, you know, the key thing is that you could go to a more extreme answer, which is some type of military Martial Law, Valkyrie-type of a response, instantaneously. It may be on the table, in some kind of an extreme situation.

You have BLM and Antifa and other known threats that are out there, that could do something radical to try and stop us from getting – look it's right under everybody's noses – nobody on either side actually honestly believes that Biden with his six followers in circles and chairs at a meeting out on the grass in Timbuktu uh won this election. The question is whether or not we're going to stop this deal.

RDS: Let me interrupt you, Juan. How do the military generals that you're talking to – how do they react to the ten Secretaries of Defense calling on the President to concede? And I have named three of those Secretaries of Defense as being immediately eligible for conviction of treason – and I mean Cheney, Rumsfeld and Panetta.

JOS: Because this is about mutual self promotion of people with vested interests, looking to feather their nests after the fact. And so you have to to question, just because they've gotten promoted to that level and hold those positions doesn't mean that they're good guys.

RDS: No. Well, they were, in fact put in those positions by the Deep State, which treats the Pentagon as a profit center.

JOS: Yes and so the long and short of it is just because the President's completely surrounded by people that were, you know – and often, even though they're working right now for the President, they got promoted during the years that other people with other interests were employed.

RDS: Let's draw to a close with with that thing. Now, one of the greatest things that Patrick Byrne has done is call out the Chief of Staff of the White House as a traitor who is blocking communications to the President.

Now, I've been told that the President is now in direct phone contact with Burn and Flynn and Powell. Are you satisfied that the President is no longer being blocked from information?

JOS: I don't know that he was ever actually technically blocked, functionally. Yeah, there was blocking happening. He could break it at any time. He knew he wasn't getting a straight story but the decision was to allow this to play through and allow these players to do what they do.

And now we've reached a different checkpoint in this operation and allowed them to show their hands, show who they are. That's so much of this game. This is where this heat soak is. Everybody's got to pick a pick a path, pick a lane, Heaven or Hell, right or wrong and they're showing who they really are and how they're aligned and the Vice President is going to get that same opportunity, if he chooses to show up.

RDS: I interviewed a lovely young lady, who goes by the pseudonym of Mel K and she actually worked at Mar-a-Lago and she described the President as one of the most personable, gracious people, who treated everybody at every level, from the gardener on up with great respect. I have the sense that the President is actually feeling very healthy and in-command of the situation.

JOS: I concur.

RDS: Is there anything you want to say as we draw to a close and wait, with baited breath for tomorrow?

JOS: Don't expect it to be over tomorrow. Tomorrow's just a door turning on a hinge. We have several doors that we have to go through and the choices are going to be a couple at each checkpoint.

You know, there's some wise in the road for everybody.

Everybody's going to get the chance to pick a lane, pick a side and the key thing, here is, especially for those people, since we're not getting justice in the Justice Department, those people, in the General Staff: flag officers to not wait to see what happens but to be counted as having chosen correctly before history makes its mark, before we know the rest of the story and some of the stuff – enough is known to know that, even if you don't want to necessarily agree with the President, you don't like this President – enough is known that you can pick that we need to slow down and not let the criminals get control of our country and decide with the American people who, en masse are turning out today and tomorrow and are going to continue.

They're not going to shut up, even after tomorrow, until they get an honest, legal, right answer so, that's where it's at. That's right.

RDS: I agree with you and what's different between fraudulent elections in the past and this election, is that everybody is awake now. Juan O Savin. I will let you buy me a steak on the seventh or the eighth or the ninth. I know my way to Trump Tower and I think

JOS: I've gotta I think I've got a t-shirt for you, here, too from the movie that's coming out, here, probably sometime tomorrow from the trip across the country. One of the people that have posted –

RDS: Why don't we do a special 15-minute interview focused only on the moment?

JOS: Yeah people'll get a kick out of that and I actually want to post it with you. We've got four or five places that I think that this needs to be posted and would be really fun and it's download-and-share. When your people take a look at it, download it, keep it share it. It's yours to share.

RDS: Alright. So, we'll deal with that. We'll deal with that in a special interview.

My prayers are obviously with the President and I think he's lucky to have you and Patrick Byrne and Mike Flynn and Sidney Powell and Linn Wood on his side. I'm still not sure about Giuliani. I'm still not sure about McCarthy but on balance, I think God is winning and and I thank you very, very much for sharing your thoughts with us.

JOS: Most important persons that are on the President's side, the American People. En masse, they can't be beat. Our prayers will not be lost on Divine Ears. Let's make it happen.

RDS: That's it.

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Trump Declassifies 'Foot-High' Stack Of Russiagate, Obamagate Documents; Set For Release Within Days
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by Tyler Durden
Friday, Jan 15, 2021 - 4:45



President Trump has declassified and authorized the release of "more than a foot-high stack of documents" related to the Obama administration's surveillance and espionage committed against the 2016 Trump campaign, as part of a larger campaign to discredit and undermine the incoming US president.

According to journalist and Trump insider John Solomon, the documents would be released as soon as Friday, but no later than Monday.

"He has delivered in a big way. More than a foot-high stack of documents he has authorized to be released by the FBI and the DOJ. These are the things that the FBI has tried to keep from the public for 4 years. They have amazing, big picture revelations," Solomon told Fox News' "Lou Dobbs Tonight."

According to Solomon's website, Just The News, the release will support claims that the entire Russia narrative was created and leaked to the news media to upstage concerns over Hillary Clinton's email scandal.

Watch (via Trending Politics):


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-declassifies-foot-high-stack-russiagate-obamagate-documents-set-release-within-days

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Transcript of video...

Juan O. Savin

Day Before the Storm

Juan O Savin joins Robert David Steele to discuss where we are.

***

RDS: So, what's your bottom line on what's going to happen tomorrow? What's your prediction? We'll hold you accountable on Saturday.

JOS: He's got more bends and turns and twists than an anaconda snake! Look, there's about five variations that can happen. Without letting cats out of the bag, I believe I know what what is going to happen but I don't want to –

RDS: OK, so just give us five without specifying your choice.

JOS: Well, they're too deep to really get into precisely, because there's overlap –

RDS: OK, so Joe Biden shows up and concedes!

JOS: Uh, I don't believe that's gonna happen. That would be nice if it would, but no. That's one of the five, yes.

RDS: OK, Joe Biden dies in his sleep.

JOS: I wouldn't consider that one of the five but –

RDS: – Alright, so give me the five. One-liners. I mean, people

love you, Juan. You are my absolutely most popular guest.

JOS: Well, the issue is whether or not Congress decertifies some of these votes, whether we ask to go back and have a re-vote in those states, whether – we're not going to allow states not to have a piece of the action here in the eventual final vote.

RDS: Contingent election in states that are de-certified is on the table.

JOS: Is on the table.

RDS: That's a very reasonable proposition.

JOS: Yes and any of these involves slowing things down. In the course of slowing things down for any reason, other investigations continue on. One of the problems with, for example we're going to do a RICO in Nevada. Pat Byrne and I have both thrown money at the attorneys on that and we were going to file, right away and decided to hold, for various reasons and there are sound reasons, not that we don't have the material but the timing is an issue. But the problem with RICO, it doesn't change the outcome on this election.

RDS: You don't win this in the courts.

JOS: Right but that's a longer-term solution to fix the problem. Longer term, with discovery and things like that.

RDS: What legal right does the President have to serve on the 21st or 22nd of January if he has not been confirmed by Congress?

JOS: Well, because again, those executive orders that he did, both at the beginning of this administration and again on the September 12th, 2018; both of those have issues related to fraudulent elections and in that case, as General Flynn has said, a limited state of Martial Law while we're getting to the correct solution is not out of the question.

Now, that's not where the President wants to go and we haven't fully gone through all of the legal mechanisms to give the Justice Department a chance to do what they're supposed to do. But that's what this delay is about: letting the American People see that you can't get to justice through the Justice Department. The Congress is so captured, so corrupted, they can't come up with the vote when everybody in the world can see that.

RDS: I agree with you. I agree with you completely and I have myself made the case, not only for Martial Law and the Insurrection Act but I believe the old guard needs to be developing a regimental order on becoming a firing squad.

No, I'm serious I've posted on that. They've got all the pieces. I mean, they've got the guys with bayonets, they've got the Fife and Drum Corps, they have the Presidential Battery, they have the engineers and medical and so forth. And if you want to execute six governors on the White House Lawn, the old guard is the logical choice.

So one what are your other options? I can see Martial Law, I can see a delay but I think the evidence is compelling enough so that a 10-day audit would force Congress to make the deal on the 16th of January. And that's my preferred option. What are the other options that you see that would stretch this out toward April?

JOS: If the Vice President decides not to show up for some reason and you'd be forced to have to have a delay, because you're not getting to those answers early on. There's a lot of variations, even within those options It's like a chess game. One move causes five other moves to be possible. Two moves cause 20 or 30 potential moves.

But there's maybe four or five likely moves. As you get out, three or four or five moves out, it becomes harder and harder to predict what's going to be the needed best next move or two. So you get too many steps out and you're just too far into the speculation.

This exact moment about is about whether or not uh votes can be certified or not, whether or not there is a decision not to certify and it brings the Biden candidacy down under the 270, which I think is the likeliest scenario.

Some some means comes up where we decide that those votes can't be counted and now the Biden team is under 270.

RDS: That means Pennsylvania and at least one more state.

JOS: Probably Georgia.

RDS: And that makes complete sense to me. In fact, in this document that I shared with you, which is Tinyurl.com/election-indictment shows that Georgia had 1,500,000 million questionable ballots. So I love that. So what I hear you saying is that tomorrow, there could be a successful decertification of two states and then maybe, something that goes on, in terms of the audit.

Do you think Senator Cruz has a real possibility of getting an emergency audit?

JOS: Well you know, I do. There's going to be a huge fight to to allow that to happen. I don't even think that that decision necessarily happens tomorrow. They could drag that out, even there's there's so many different angles but I think Texas has shown that they have the will, the piss-and-vinegar –

RDS: Not just Texas, one third of the country – one third of the states are ready to take this to the wire. Juan, let me ask you a question, because you and I have shared meals together. We know each other. From where I sit, anybody associated with this election fraud needs to either make a deal or die.

From where I sit, we've got them by the balls. Is this just drama?

JOS: Let me say it this way. And you gotta give me a second, Robert to build this out for a second for people. The reality is, you've run engines equipment, where you have to go out. You start it cold. You have to allow it to warm up. The heat soak has to go through the parts. If you don't allow an engine to heat up evenly, you break things. And so you have to bring things up to temperature before you actually go out and put it under a high stress load, etc. and it's just the way it is.

Those few minutes with aircraft and things like that, to allow everything to get evenly heat-soaked can make the difference between breaking and and running smoothly.

The country is coming up to speed. More and more people understand where we're at. I've met with several members of the General Staff, former and current, over the last a couple of months and especially over the last couple weeks and I would have to say universally, they were not completely up to speed.

People are looking to them for how to pivot, what what to think, where to go, because these are people in leadership positions. Same thing with flag officers. And they were not understanding the problem, from a fraudulent election side. They were allowing that the Justice Department, the Congress is going to get to the right answer, so they were standing down. They were being observers, doing what military people generally are required to do.

However, as I've explained in all of those conversations, we are at a critical moment, where it's clear that you can't get to justice through the Justice Department. Many of the political party people on both sides are captured. They're under some type of threat or duress. They are bought, paid for. And so they're biased in a way that serves their master's interests, not the American interests.

In that kind of a situation, "enemies foreign and domestic" comes into play. If we have to slow this down to get to a proper answer, and even if the military has to be called in in certain areas – not everywhere – but in those places where there's an exceptional problem, that's what it's gonna take.

RDS: Enough, in fact even within those states. Just five cities. Juan, what you have done is made the case for...Martial Law and the Insurrection Act and I will point out to everybody -

JOS: Limited, limited, limited –

RDS: I hear you. Limited. Five states, OK – although I'd love to do California –

JOS: – It'd probably be probably a little over a dozen.

RDS: Little over what?

JOS: Little over a dozen.

RDS: A dozen. Well, we were looking at 16 very carefully but what i want to tell the audience as we as we savor this this opportunity to talk to you is that the Insurrection Act and military or Martial Law is designed for when the civilian justice system is clearly and totally broken.

And we're there. That has been demonstrated. The FBI, the CIA, the Department of Justice have all been corrupted beyond belief by the Deep State.

So Juan, I can definitely see the Insurrection Act and Martial Law. I can also see our military, as well as our law enforcement across the country being loyal to the President, the Constitution of the Republic. Do you see any bad things happening tomorrow?

JOS: I don't actually see bad things happening. You know, American people are showing up. The President has allowed the National Guards to be present here, in Washington, DC, just to keep the peace. And you know, as well as anybody that the way you stop a problem is you show a strong front before there's a problem and the bad guys decide to go somewhere else.

You don't wait till there's a problem and the President is taking measures to protect the American people here at this gathering, here in Washington, DC, as well as the rest of the country. We're going to have our interests protected and that's where the President's actually doing his job 100%. His job is to protect the American People, including from a stolen vote.

The bank robbery is not going to succeed. Just because the bank robbers get in the getaway car and get off the bank property and get around the corner doesn't mean we let him get away with it, because, "Darn we didn't get him right at the door! Gee, we were too slow!"

RDS: No, I wouldn't be there. Now, let's go back to those five things, because we agreed this was going to be a 15-minute, 20-minute interview. So, what have you named, in terms of the five things

JOS: You know, there's so many variations. Again, you know, the key thing is that you could go to a more extreme answer, which is some type of military Martial Law, Valkyrie-type of a response, instantaneously. It may be on the table, in some kind of an extreme situation.

You have BLM and Antifa and other known threats that are out there, that could do something radical to try and stop us from getting – look it's right under everybody's noses – nobody on either side actually honestly believes that Biden with his six followers in circles and chairs at a meeting out on the grass in Timbuktu uh won this election. The question is whether or not we're going to stop this deal.

RDS: Let me interrupt you, Juan. How do the military generals that you're talking to – how do they react to the ten Secretaries of Defense calling on the President to concede? And I have named three of those Secretaries of Defense as being immediately eligible for conviction of treason – and I mean Cheney, Rumsfeld and Panetta.

JOS: Because this is about mutual self promotion of people with vested interests, looking to feather their nests after the fact. And so you have to to question, just because they've gotten promoted to that level and hold those positions doesn't mean that they're good guys.

RDS: No. Well, they were, in fact put in those positions by the Deep State, which treats the Pentagon as a profit center.

JOS: Yes and so the long and short of it is just because the President's completely surrounded by people that were, you know – and often, even though they're working right now for the President, they got promoted during the years that other people with other interests were employed.

RDS: Let's draw to a close with with that thing. Now, one of the greatest things that Patrick Byrne has done is call out the Chief of Staff of the White House as a traitor who is blocking communications to the President.

Now, I've been told that the President is now in direct phone contact with Burn and Flynn and Powell. Are you satisfied that the President is no longer being blocked from information?

JOS: I don't know that he was ever actually technically blocked, functionally. Yeah, there was blocking happening. He could break it at any time. He knew he wasn't getting a straight story but the decision was to allow this to play through and allow these players to do what they do.

And now we've reached a different checkpoint in this operation and allowed them to show their hands, show who they are. That's so much of this game. This is where this heat soak is. Everybody's got to pick a pick a path, pick a lane, Heaven or Hell, right or wrong and they're showing who they really are and how they're aligned and the Vice President is going to get that same opportunity, if he chooses to show up.

RDS: I interviewed a lovely young lady, who goes by the pseudonym of Mel K and she actually worked at Mar-a-Lago and she described the President as one of the most personable, gracious people, who treated everybody at every level, from the gardener on up with great respect. I have the sense that the President is actually feeling very healthy and in-command of the situation.

JOS: I concur.

RDS: Is there anything you want to say as we draw to a close and wait, with baited breath for tomorrow?

JOS: Don't expect it to be over tomorrow. Tomorrow's just a door turning on a hinge. We have several doors that we have to go through and the choices are going to be a couple at each checkpoint.

You know, there's some wise in the road for everybody.

Everybody's going to get the chance to pick a lane, pick a side and the key thing, here is, especially for those people, since we're not getting justice in the Justice Department, those people, in the General Staff: flag officers to not wait to see what happens but to be counted as having chosen correctly before history makes its mark, before we know the rest of the story and some of the stuff – enough is known to know that, even if you don't want to necessarily agree with the President, you don't like this President – enough is known that you can pick that we need to slow down and not let the criminals get control of our country and decide with the American people who, en masse are turning out today and tomorrow and are going to continue.

They're not going to shut up, even after tomorrow, until they get an honest, legal, right answer so, that's where it's at. That's right.

RDS: I agree with you and what's different between fraudulent elections in the past and this election, is that everybody is awake now. Juan O Savin. I will let you buy me a steak on the seventh or the eighth or the ninth. I know my way to Trump Tower and I think

JOS: I've gotta I think I've got a t-shirt for you, here, too from the movie that's coming out, here, probably sometime tomorrow from the trip across the country. One of the people that have posted –

RDS: Why don't we do a special 15-minute interview focused only on the moment?

JOS: Yeah people'll get a kick out of that and I actually want to post it with you. We've got four or five places that I think that this needs to be posted and would be really fun and it's download-and-share. When your people take a look at it, download it, keep it share it. It's yours to share.

RDS: Alright. So, we'll deal with that. We'll deal with that in a special interview.

My prayers are obviously with the President and I think he's lucky to have you and Patrick Byrne and Mike Flynn and Sidney Powell and Linn Wood on his side. I'm still not sure about Giuliani. I'm still not sure about McCarthy but on balance, I think God is winning and and I thank you very, very much for sharing your thoughts with us.

JOS: Most important persons that are on the President's side, the American People. En masse, they can't be beat. Our prayers will not be lost on Divine Ears. Let's make it happen.

RDS: That's it.

Video: Running Time: 17 mins

https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/juan-o-savin-day-before-the

Viking

This interview is about a week old.

[Eric J (Viking)]

TRUMP GOT THIS! THE MILITARY GOT THIS! A HAPPY ENDING WILL COME

Jan 15, 2021
https://youtu.be/HL8wvoBIzac


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL8wvoBIzac

Viking

[ramus]

This is part of what they're scared of

yes... PART.... where's the good ****??

Like everything in this fog we have to wait till they release it.

A least it's only a couple of days away... not like waiting for Nibiru . lol

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well I suppose most people here know that Trump won...but what happens now?

Yes, President Trump Won:
The Case, Evidence, & Statistical Receipts

Full report here

https://navarroreport.com/#342e5f15-d44c-436a-bb58-9051a9397783

Viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

ITALY STOLE U.S. ELECTION – Here’s why they did it…

A top lawyer from the Italian Supreme Court reveals how a large defense software company, Leonardo SpA, stole the United States presidential election, using advanced military grade software, and satellites. Why did they do this? The following video gives eye-opening answers...
WATCH THIS CRITICAL VIDEO AND SHARE IT WITH THE WORLD.

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/leonardo

If the website is being blocked,
you can view the video directly on Rumble:

https://rumble.com/vcttdp-evidence-that-the-military-of-italy-stole-the-us-election.html

Viking

[Blastolabs]

I find it hard to believe that Lin Wood an attorney who knows about defamation be stupid enough to open himself up to a lawsuit without proof?
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[ExomatrixTV]

BREAKING NEWS: Raquel Rodriguez Was Arrested For Veritas Voter Fraud Take Over Texas Media:

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... meanwhile fact-checkers ignored these FACTUAL events by default ... even (or especially) if it proves their judgment-call were wrong!

[ExomatrixTV]

HUGE: CONFIRMED! Trump is Saving the BIGGEST BOMB for Last:

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[ExomatrixTV]

1350194406234738691


Timcast IRL - MyPillow Guy Told Trump To Declare MARTIAL LAW?! w/ Jason Rantz:

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100% related:

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100% related:

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[ExomatrixTV]

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source (https://twitter.com/DanCovfefe1/status/1350219229732093953)

[T Smith]

BREAKING NEWS: Raquel Rodriguez Was Arrested For Veritas Voter Fraud Take Over Texas Media:

nDsDdXaD0_M


... meanwhile fact-checkers ignored these FACTUAL events by default ... even (or especially) if it proves their judgment-call were wrong!

The only thing that is disturbing about this is the fact that the FBI and other law enforcement continually prosecute the little guy to the fullest extent of the law but allow the real criminals who STOLE the election to skate free--don't get me wrong; I don't condone her crimes. She should face the charges. But I find it extremely unjust to see a woman who ballot harvested maybe a hundred or so fraudulent votes to go to jail for twenty years while the consequence of Governors, Secretary of States, corrupt Mayors and partisans who were a party to stealing hundreds of thousands of votes only advance their stake in the power structure.

Arbitrary enforcement of the law is the very definition of tyranny.

Disgusting.

[ExomatrixTV]

Trump Further Restricts Chinese Military; Republican Drafts Joe Biden Impeachment Bill

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[alh02]

This is how it ends..

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[Kryztian]

:bump:

Bumping this video with Steve Pieczenik which really deserves a listen. Pieczenik is staking his reputation on this prediction - that there will be a military intervention between now and the inauguration with some major arrests happening.

In four days, we will know.



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[Eric J (Viking)]

BREAKING: Mike Lindell Visits Trump in White House – Then Media Captures Pictures of His Notes to President Referring to Crimes and Insurrection Act


Mike Lindell was at the White House on Friday for a meeting with President Trump. When he left the premises he ensured the faithful that President Trump would be President for four more years.

The Washington Times reports:

As of early Friday, the businessman and activist was still insisting President Trump will serve a second term in office.

“Keep the faith everyone,” Mr. Lindell posted on his Facebook page. “We will have our president Donald Trump 4 more years!”

This might seem strange since the media has told us for two months that Joe Biden was clearly the winner of the 2020 election.

Of course, those of us who have studied, identified and reviewed the results of the 2020 election know that the election was not a fair and free election and that millions of ballots for Joe Biden were invalid but included in the final results. Despite these obvious fraudulent activities and ballots, the election was certified by corrupt and weak politicians.

Many of the President’s supporters and many Americans know the election was stolen for Joe Biden. Every single oddity always resulted in a benefit to Biden.

Today after Mike Lindell, a devoted Christian, spoke to America he was seen leaving the Oval Office. Lindell was carrying a coffee and notes. At least one photographer took a picture of Lindell’s notes and increased what was captured in size so you could read the notes.

The New York Times claimed the notes included a suggestion about invoking the Insurrection Act, by which a President can deploy active military troops into the streets, among other moves.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Mr-Pillow-Notes-3.jpg

The picture of the notes that we share below do not mention the Insurrection Act but do share much more. They included wording suggesting that someone should be named to an Acting National Security position and something about Fort Mead. There also is mention about the assault on the [possibly Constitution] and martial law if necessary at the first hint [of likely violence]. There is also a note of moving Kash Patel to CIA Acting. Finally there is wording of China and Iran interfering in our election and using domestic actors in their effort.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Mr-Pillow-Notes-5.jpg


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-mike-lindell-visits-trump-white-house-media-captures-pictures-notes-president-referring-crimes-insurrection-act/

Viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

This is how it ends..

ROkzqvs78nA

Yep Wednesday could be the biggest day for decades...

There is a STORM coming like nothing you have ever seen….


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf62AkUKbxs

:Angel:

Viking

[greybeard]

Biden gone MAD after SHOCKING crimes of Hunter REVEALED to Bill Barr’s team


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9jABGnZf98

[ExomatrixTV]

Episode 17 - URGENT Breaking News! Inauguration Canceled (https://www.spreaker.com/user/stevemotley/episode-17-urgent-breaking-news-inaugura)? Military In Charge? Swamp to be Fully Drained Soon? - 01/15/2021

[atman]

Posted this afternoon by Attorney/Author Sidney Powell on her official Telegram channel (https://t.me/s/SidneyPowell):


All indications are that despite the overwhelming evidence of massive fraud, and more evidence available inside the government, and other legal options available, the President is taking no action to protect the Republic. People around him are limiting his information and lying to him about his legal options. The Biden administration will be consolidating power day one and the fascist corporations are already limiting speech and firing freedom lovers. Just look at the military in DC now. Trump did not call them in. And all that for a virtual inauguration that no one will attend?! It's all about power and global/communist money. You can see and smell the corruption in DC. It's gone from a swamp to a pure cesspool. There were and have been a lot more people illegally elected than just Biden and Harris.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/29

[greybeard]

Two opposing stories above.
They could not be more different.
Regardless I believe that good will overcome evil
Chris

[ExomatrixTV]

http://whynotnews.eu/pix/biden-jail-soon.png


tinyurl.com/MilitaryTribunals-2021 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/tinyurl.com/MilitaryTribunals-2021)

http://whynotnews.eu/pix/justkidding.png


⚠️ tinyurl.com/Biden-Scandal-Explodes (http://tinyurl.com/Biden-Scandal-Explodes)

[Arcturian108]

BREAKING: Mike Lindell Visits Trump in White House – Then Media Captures Pictures of His Notes to President Referring to Crimes and Insurrection Act


Mike Lindell was at the White House on Friday for a meeting with President Trump. When he left the premises he ensured the faithful that President Trump would be President for four more years.

The Washington Times reports:

As of early Friday, the businessman and activist was still insisting President Trump will serve a second term in office.

“Keep the faith everyone,” Mr. Lindell posted on his Facebook page. “We will have our president Donald Trump 4 more years!”

This might seem strange since the media has told us for two months that Joe Biden was clearly the winner of the 2020 election.

Of course, those of us who have studied, identified and reviewed the results of the 2020 election know that the election was not a fair and free election and that millions of ballots for Joe Biden were invalid but included in the final results. Despite these obvious fraudulent activities and ballots, the election was certified by corrupt and weak politicians.

Many of the President’s supporters and many Americans know the election was stolen for Joe Biden. Every single oddity always resulted in a benefit to Biden.

Today after Mike Lindell, a devoted Christian, spoke to America he was seen leaving the Oval Office. Lindell was carrying a coffee and notes. At least one photographer took a picture of Lindell’s notes and increased what was captured in size so you could read the notes.

The New York Times claimed the notes included a suggestion about invoking the Insurrection Act, by which a President can deploy active military troops into the streets, among other moves.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Mr-Pillow-Notes-3.jpg

The picture of the notes that we share below do not mention the Insurrection Act but do share much more. They included wording suggesting that someone should be named to an Acting National Security position and something about Fort Mead. There also is mention about the assault on the [possibly Constitution] and martial law if necessary at the first hint [of likely violence]. There is also a note of moving Kash Patel to CIA Acting. Finally there is wording of China and Iran interfering in our election and using domestic actors in their effort.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Mr-Pillow-Notes-5.jpg


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-mike-lindell-visits-trump-white-house-media-captures-pictures-notes-president-referring-crimes-insurrection-act/

Viking

I only wish Lindell hadn't been so careless to expose these notes.

[Satori]

Two opposing stories above.
They could not be more different.
Regardless I believe that good will overcome evil
Chris

Yes, someday.....

[Gracy]

Posted this afternoon by Attorney/Author Sidney Powell on her official Telegram channel (https://t.me/s/SidneyPowell):


All indications are that despite the overwhelming evidence of massive fraud, and more evidence available inside the government, and other legal options available, the President is taking no action to protect the Republic.
To me anyway, this paints Trump in the same light Pence was lumped into. If you're in a position of great power, and choose to do nothing about this, then what does that make you?


People around him are limiting his information and lying to him about his legal options. The Biden administration will be consolidating power day one and the fascist corporations are already limiting speech and firing freedom lovers.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/29

Now in this case, where's the 5D chess being played by the master?

There are so many varying scenarios out there of what's really going on, none of them ever come to fruition, and many of these "insiders" are contradicting each other.

This is not Trump hate, this is looking at what's being presented with unbiased logic.

[One]

Idea of security in DC
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FORMER WH PRESS SECRETARY SEAN SPICER: "THEY ARE STOPPING EVERY CAR TRYING TO LEAVE THE CITY"
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[ExomatrixTV]

http://whynotnews.eu/pix/greatawakening.png


tinyurl.com/MilitaryTribunals-2021 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/tinyurl.com/MilitaryTribunals-2021)

[ExomatrixTV]

http://whynotnews.eu/pix/Globalist-Biden-Agenda2030-TheGreatReset.png


⚠️ tinyurl.com/Biden-Scandal-Explodes (http://tinyurl.com/Biden-Scandal-Explodes)

[Satori]

Posted this afternoon by Attorney/Author Sidney Powell on her official Telegram channel (https://t.me/s/SidneyPowell):


All indications are that despite the overwhelming evidence of massive fraud, and more evidence available inside the government, and other legal options available, the President is taking no action to protect the Republic.
To me anyway, this paints Trump in the same light Pence was lumped into. If you're in a position of great power, and choose to do nothing about this, then what does that make you?


People around him are limiting his information and lying to him about his legal options. The Biden administration will be consolidating power day one and the fascist corporations are already limiting speech and firing freedom lovers.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/29

Now in this case, where's the 5D chess being played by the master?

There are so many varying scenarios out there of what's really going on, none of them ever come to fruition, and many of these "insiders" are contradicting each other.

This is not Trump hate, this is looking at what's being presented with unbiased logic.

My wife, who follows this horrendous saga even more closely than I do, informs me that Sidney Powell disavows these alleged comments attributed to her. In other words, Powell never said any of these things. That rings more true to me.

[Rawhide68]

I can't understand why this film is still out there on Youtube, algoritm's tired of doing evil and gone on strike for this one?


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[atman]

Posted this afternoon by Attorney/Author Sidney Powell on her official Telegram channel (https://t.me/s/SidneyPowell):


All indications are that despite the overwhelming evidence of massive fraud, and more evidence available inside the government, and other legal options available, the President is taking no action to protect the Republic.
To me anyway, this paints Trump in the same light Pence was lumped into. If you're in a position of great power, and choose to do nothing about this, then what does that make you?


People around him are limiting his information and lying to him about his legal options. The Biden administration will be consolidating power day one and the fascist corporations are already limiting speech and firing freedom lovers.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/29

Now in this case, where's the 5D chess being played by the master?

There are so many varying scenarios out there of what's really going on, none of them ever come to fruition, and many of these "insiders" are contradicting each other.

This is not Trump hate, this is looking at what's being presented with unbiased logic.

My wife, who follows this horrendous saga even more closely than I do, informs me that Sidney Powell disavows these alleged comments attributed to her. In other words, Powell never said any of these things. That rings more true to me.

I would rather believe that as well, Satori, but those "alleged" comments appear on Sidney Powell's "official" Telegram channel, with 171k followers.

Is that account actually run by an impostor?

[BoR]

Posted this afternoon by Attorney/Author Sidney Powell on her official Telegram channel (https://t.me/s/SidneyPowell):


All indications are that despite the overwhelming evidence of massive fraud, and more evidence available inside the government, and other legal options available, the President is taking no action to protect the Republic.
To me anyway, this paints Trump in the same light Pence was lumped into. If you're in a position of great power, and choose to do nothing about this, then what does that make you?


People around him are limiting his information and lying to him about his legal options. The Biden administration will be consolidating power day one and the fascist corporations are already limiting speech and firing freedom lovers.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/29

Now in this case, where's the 5D chess being played by the master?

There are so many varying scenarios out there of what's really going on, none of them ever come to fruition, and many of these "insiders" are contradicting each other.

This is not Trump hate, this is looking at what's being presented with unbiased logic.

If you look at the surface you can only come to this conclusion you come to logically. But not everything is what it seems, it looks like. The 25.000 troops are suspicious and they indicate this is not just for preventing riots or insurrection from civillians. There is something going on that we have no intel about. It could be a brilliant strategy by Trump, a war with China, or maybe something else. We’ll see. Of course, as you probably know by now, I hope your assessment turns out to be incorrect, but we can only know for sure after the fact.

[BoR]

I would rather believe that as well, Satori, but those "alleged" comments appear on Sidney Powell's "official" Telegram channel, with 171k followers.

Is that account actually run by an impostor?

I am pretty sure this is the real one. I think she is having her moments of doubt. It really has become biblical. We are in the “ye of little faith” chapter now, it seems.

[Mypos]

Posted this afternoon by Attorney/Author Sidney Powell on her official Telegram channel (https://t.me/s/SidneyPowell):


All indications are that despite the overwhelming evidence of massive fraud, and more evidence available inside the government, and other legal options available, the President is taking no action to protect the Republic.
To me anyway, this paints Trump in the same light Pence was lumped into. If you're in a position of great power, and choose to do nothing about this, then what does that make you?


People around him are limiting his information and lying to him about his legal options. The Biden administration will be consolidating power day one and the fascist corporations are already limiting speech and firing freedom lovers.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/29

Now in this case, where's the 5D chess being played by the master?

There are so many varying scenarios out there of what's really going on, none of them ever come to fruition, and many of these "insiders" are contradicting each other.

This is not Trump hate, this is looking at what's being presented with unbiased logic.

My wife, who follows this horrendous saga even more closely than I do, informs me that Sidney Powell disavows these alleged comments attributed to her. In other words, Powell never said any of these things. That rings more true to me.

If you go onto Telegram and join her account its right there. She did say it. If this account is hers and it seems legit.

[atman]

In this interview conducted by RSBN, Mike Lindell adresses his visit to the White House, yesterday (Friday, January 15), where he presented some new evidence of the massive electoral fraud to President Trump during a short 5 minute encounter with him and where he afterwards got to try and present it in greater details to blasé and seemingly uninterested members of Trump's legal team.


https://www.pscp.tv/w/1gqxvoBDakgKB

[TomKat]

In this interview conducted by RSBN, Mike Lindell adresses his visit to the White House, yesterday (Friday, January 15), where he presented some new evidence of the massive electoral fraud to President Trump during a short 5 minute encounter with him and where he afterwards got to try and present it in greater details to blasé and seemingly uninterested members of Trump's legal team.


https://www.pscp.tv/w/1gqxvoBDakgKB

Wow! Trump's in on the steal??? Either that or he's dumb as a rock while his handlers push him to act against his own interests.

[iota]

In this interview conducted by RSBN, Mike Lindell adresses his visit to the White House, yesterday (Friday, January 15), where he presented some new evidence of the massive electoral fraud to President Trump during a short 5 minute encounter with him and where he afterwards got to try and present it in greater details to blasé and seemingly uninterested members of Trump's legal team.


https://www.pscp.tv/w/1gqxvoBDakgKB

Wow! Trump's in on the steal??? Either that or he's dumb as a rock while his handlers push him to act against his own interests.

there IS a third option ...

[T Smith]

really[/FONT] going on, none of them ever come to fruition, and many of these "insiders" are contradicting each other.

This is not Trump hate, this is looking at what's being presented with unbiased logic.

I have no idea what the hell is going on or what's about to happen. None of us do. I have to believe the ramped-up disinformation from both black hats and white hats is deliberate and meant to obfuscate the truth or the execution of what is about to happen. One thing's for sure: we're in an information war and the public is fully submerged in an ongoing PsyOp. I've even heard reports that many of the posts on telegram aren't real, including Sidney Powell's, so who the hell even knows if the post you reference is accurate.

The fact that so-called insiders are contracting each other and spewing disinformation leads me to believe something significant is about to happen. The question is, what?

Why on earth there are 30,000.00 National Guard in Washington D.C. with anti-missile technology, with little explanation from the media, is mind-boggling. .

[T Smith]

Posted this afternoon by Attorney/Author Sidney Powell on her official Telegram channel (https://t.me/s/SidneyPowell):


All indications are that despite the overwhelming evidence of massive fraud, and more evidence available inside the government, and other legal options available, the President is taking no action to protect the Republic.
To me anyway, this paints Trump in the same light Pence was lumped into. If you're in a position of great power, and choose to do nothing about this, then what does that make you?


People around him are limiting his information and lying to him about his legal options. The Biden administration will be consolidating power day one and the fascist corporations are already limiting speech and firing freedom lovers.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/29

Now in this case, where's the 5D chess being played by the master?

There are so many varying scenarios out there of what's really going on, none of them ever come to fruition, and many of these "insiders" are contradicting each other.

This is not Trump hate, this is looking at what's being presented with unbiased logic.

My wife, who follows this horrendous saga even more closely than I do, informs me that Sidney Powell disavows these alleged comments attributed to her. In other words, Powell never said any of these things. That rings more true to me.

If you go onto Telegram and join her account its right there. She did say it. If this account is hers and it seems legit.

Yes it's her account, but it was allegidly hacked. If this is a PsyOp run by the CIA or NSA, etc., that wouldn't be hard to pull off.

[take]

What's the fetishism with this forum about trump and the fascist, ultra right wing nazis that spin the narrative to fit their goals? I don't get it.

[greybeard]

What's the fetishism with this forum about trump and the fascist, ultra right wing nazis that spin the narrative to fit their goals? I don't get it.

Fraudulent voting (Proved) serves no one.
Truth is not right or left wing
Freedom is for all.
Awareness is free of concepts.
Chris

[TargeT]

What's the fetishism with this forum about trump and the fascist, ultra right wing nazis that spin the narrative to fit their goals? I don't get it.

so... this is either brilliant comedy or proof of a psyop that has worked TERRIFINGLY well....



Like literally... do you live in opposite world?

[Apulu]

What's the fetishism with this forum about trump and the fascist, ultra right wing nazis that spin the narrative to fit their goals? I don't get it.

A very, very, one-sided opinion thrown onto a thread which is dedicated to collecting and discussing the evidence of an entirely corrupt US election? What do you think the reaction to that will be? You know very well, don't you?

The fact that your comment is so one-sided (stated as fact, and designed as an insult), and has absolutely nothing to back it up, means I and others can only conclude that you're deliberately looking for an argument, with no real substance to it. Sad really.

Are you feeling particularly bored with your life today? Seems like it 🙂

[ramus]

What's the fetishism with this forum about trump and the fascist, ultra right wing nazis that spin the narrative to fit their goals? I don't get it.

WHAT !!!! Explain your statement ....

" accusing other of what you do " is right out of the communist manifesto, and is what the left has been doing for 4 years.

I will say it again .... EVERYTHING IS EITHER UPSIDE DOWN OR BACKWARDS OR BOTH ....

[pueblo]

What's the fetishism with this forum about trump and the fascist, ultra right wing nazis that spin the narrative to fit their goals? I don't get it.

WHAT !!!! Explain your statement ....

" accusing other of what you do " is right out of the communist manifesto, and is what the left has been doing for 4 years.

I will say it again .... EVERYTHING IS EITHER UPSIDE DOWN OR BACKWARDS OR BOTH ....

I like to say that everything is inside out, upside down and back to front.. :)

[TargeT]

What's the fetishism with this forum about trump and the fascist, ultra right wing nazis that spin the narrative to fit their goals? I don't get it.

A very, very, one-sided opinion thrown onto a thread which is dedicated to collecting and discussing the evidence of an entirely corrupt US election? What do you think the reaction to that will be? You know very well, don't you?

The fact that your comment is so one-sided (stated as fact, and designed as an insult), and has absolutely nothing to back it up, means I and others can only conclude that you're deliberately looking for an argument, with no real substance to it. Sad really.

Are you feeling particularly bored with your life today? Seems like it 🙂

excellent analysis.... but still, how effectively was this pot stirred? haha... guess we are all still human.

[Arcturian108]

In this interview conducted by RSBN, Mike Lindell adresses his visit to the White House, yesterday (Friday, January 15), where he presented some new evidence of the massive electoral fraud to President Trump during a short 5 minute encounter with him and where he afterwards got to try and present it in greater details to blasé and seemingly uninterested members of Trump's legal team.


https://www.pscp.tv/w/1gqxvoBDakgKB

I watched most of the Mike Lindell video, and clearly the message of a fraudulent election was of little interest to either President Trump or his lawyers. And the only thing that that says to me now, after hearing a few minutes of Mike Adams talk about where we are is that the problems we are facing are much bigger than just a stolen election.
https://www.brighteon.com/1308b62b-3610-4ebb-a29d-082e37b0e7b4

We have been in a cold war with China for some time, but now it might become a hot war, and will President Trump declare such before he leaves office, or will he let Biden face the music? Who knows?

[atman]

I was very relieved (and at the same disgusted) to read proof that the Sidney Powell so-called "official" account on Telegram was created and was being run by an imposter, going under the channel name of "The Trumpist (https://t.me/TheTrumpist)" on that same platform.

_______________________________________



The Account is run by a shady group with a donation scheme.
Published on: January 16, 2021 10:37 PM

The Sidney Powell Telegram account has grown very large with over 175,000 followers. A post circulated today from this account that badmouthed the President claiming he has taken no action to defend the republic. Based on the independent research of TRM this article will show that this is an imposter account just recently created that is coercing Powell's supporters into a fraudulent donation scam.

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fcd1ee7c5fd2932d5b19f7d/6003a0edc68eaa6a24f5a9ec_post1.jpg

Here is the initial post from "official channel of Sidney Powell" (https://t.me/SidneyPowell) that garnered much attention and comments on social media. Many people were confused and wondered why she would make this statement. Well it is quite possible that Sidney Powell never did make that comment. In the midst of the widespread social media blackout we have seen no indications from the real Sidney Powell that she is associated to this Telegram group. We haven't seen indications from anybody at this point so it would be best to assume that such an account would be a fake. But with a little digging it can be proven to be a fake.

(...)

Full article: https://www.republicanmandate.com/news-post-articles/sidney-powell-fake-telegram-account

[TravelerJim]

Ok, so I think this is what is going to go down.

1. The traditional American power structure knows China has infiltrated the US in partnership with a domestic movement dating back to the 1960s.
2. They have used the election to create a tipping point necessary to weed all this out.
3. Trump was recruited to run interference for four years and has done a good job.
4. The creation of the Jan 6 false flag allowed them to bring in the national guard and lock down DC. Trump could legally do this and all parties agreed but for different reasons.
5. Trump has signed the Insurrection Act EO but it has been kept secret. US troops will go in to DC and lock it down further by Wednesday.
6. The election was clearly fraudalent and the evidence has been compiled regarding foreign interference so there is legal authority to challenge things as they are now.

Now, this is the new ground to cover.

1. The key here is that whatever the "Good Guys" do needs legal cover. The veneer of a constitutional republic is sometimes quite thin.
2. Where is SCOTUS? They would have to be under protection somewhere. Possibly in DC.
3. Given the emergency nature of this situation I am sure they would play ball here, at least enough of them.
4. Now this is important, everyone thinks the choices are either Trump or Biden/Harris. Not true.
5. The Constitutional line of succession is Trump/Pence/Pelosi/Grassley (Senate President Pro temp)/Pompeo (Sec of State).
6. So, Trump will play, he has been kept in the dark for a large part of this, but will play, because he knows he is devisive. As will Pence who is aligned too closely with Trump. We need to bring the country together and they will know this.
7. Pelosi will be arrested and rewarded with some sort of deal if she steps aside. Grassley is 87 and is not up for it and knows it. In any case, they will be skipped over.
8. I have been watching Pompeo closely now for a few months. He has charted a middle of the road path with all this going on. He has focused on China, and said they were "within the gates".

So, the new acting President wil be Mike Pompeo.

I have left out of my thoughts here and would welcome critiques but this feels right......

[Eric J (Viking)]

By cloverchronicle

On Friday evening, an alleged White House staffer shared what he/she learned in a recent briefing regarding President Trump’s future plans.

Read their message below:

We received a briefing from our superiors this week on what to expect up until January 20th. Essentially, Trump will refuse to leave office in January unless there is a clear decision against him by the U.S. Supreme Court before the 20th that exhausts his current legitimate legal options. For those paying attention, Trump’s video message this week should solidify that what I’m telling you is true.

Trump’s legal team has reviewed the constitutionality of remaining in office, and is asserting that the States changing laws without proper authority just prior to the election is enough to remain a constitutionally valid President, and therefore Biden [is an] illegitimate President-elect until the fraud is revealed and some form of victory declared or a run-off election.

Trump has various plans in place and of course expects Dems to resist in every way. The Dems may try to use the Presidential Succession Act after January 20th to install Nancy Pelosi as a de facto leader until litigation is resolved. The Dems will include Mike Pence in their argument that constitutionally neither has been “voted” into power to remain in office and seek emergency relief from the Supreme Court. Apparently, Trump hopes the Dems are stupid enough to require this because Nancy Pelosi must formally resign from the House of Representatives to do this.

But before that happens a big challenge Presidentially is the Secret Service, who is right now protecting both parties as is the current norm. The SS are in the middle of this power struggle and in charge of protecting and enforcing both Trump & Biden as President. They are appealing to both sides to allow the Secret Service to remain neutral and let the process play out within the 3 branches of Government for now. Where this gets complicated is with certain elements of the Pentagon, SS or rogue actors who may be manipulated, blackmailed or coerced to pick a side.

And that I believe is why they’re informing us of some of these decisions.

In any case, the White House leaders are talking about having us working off-site in preparation for these events leading up to inauguration day. Watch the news as I suspect they may circulate reports of another larger Coronavirus outbreak in the White House and the need to close it to outsiders and even the press to provide cover for these activities or something to this effect.

If this happens, low level staffers like me will be told to work remotely or in a secondary secured location under Executive Continuity of Government orders. Then even if a Pelosi or Biden led force tried to take the White House, it will just be an empty building. They may try to assert power, but everything will be consolidated, relocated and cut-off from access.

A few of the other staffers are scared about all this, but most of us here are excited to play some small part in a major effort of history for President Trump and the sake of restoring Constitutional Power to the people.

In God We Trust.

Source 1 (2)

Filed under Conspiracy

Image Credit: The Nation

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https://cloverchronicle.com/2020/12/04/wh-insider-trump-will-refuse-to-leave-office-unless-there-is-a-clear-decision-against-him-by-scotus/

[Arcturian108]

Ok, so I think this is what is going to go down.

1. The traditional American power structure knows China has infiltrated the US in partnership with a domestic movement dating back to the 1960s.
2. They have used the election to create a tipping point necessary to weed all this out.
3. Trump was recruited to run interference for four years and has done a good job.
4. The creation of the Jan 6 false flag allowed them to bring in the national guard and lock down DC. Trump could legally do this and all parties agreed but for different reasons.
5. Trump has signed the Insurrection Act EO but it has been kept secret. US troops will go in to DC and lock it down further by Wednesday.
6. The election was clearly fraudalent and the evidence has been compiled regarding foreign interference so there is legal authority to challenge things as they are now.

Now, this is the new ground to cover.

1. The key here is that whatever the "Good Guys" do needs legal cover. The veneer of a constitutional republic is sometimes quite thin.
2. Where is SCOTUS? They would have to be under protection somewhere. Possibly in DC.
3. Given the emergency nature of this situation I am sure they would play ball here, at least enough of them.
4. Now this is important, everyone thinks the choices are either Trump or Biden/Harris. Not true.
5. The Constitutional line of succession is Trump/Pence/Pelosi/Grassley (Senate President Pro temp)/Pompeo (Sec of State).
6. So, Trump will play, he has been kept in the dark for a large part of this, but will play, because he knows he is devisive. As will Pence who is aligned too closely with Trump. We need to bring the country together and they will know this.
7. Pelosi will be arrested and rewarded with some sort of deal if she steps aside. Grassley is 87 and is not up for it and knows it. In any case, they will be skipped over.
8. I have been watching Pompeo closely now for a few months. He has charted a middle of the road path with all this going on. He has focused on China, and said they were "within the gates".

So, the new acting President will be Mike Pompeo.

I have left out of my thoughts here and would welcome critiques but this feels right......

Excellent analysis. But Pelosi is power hungry, so I don't see her stepping aside so easily for anybody else.
I think first the military need to officially declare war with China, maybe in a joint session of Congress with Trump and Pence presiding. But why are they leaving everything for the last minute? There is some sort of surprise about to happen, but what is it?

[Gracy]

I don't think it's really that big of a mystery why the National Guard are deployed in these numbers now, they don't want the inauguration going the same way as the mayhem of January 6th.

[Olam]

I don't remember where I read the following, and I think it was some kind of psychic prediction that there was going to be 2 presidents at the same time for a short period.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Is this poetry? (copied)


“Twas the Weekend before Kraken, and all thru the land, The lefties were trembling at the cards in Trump's hand.
The patriots were nestled, all snug in their beds, While visions of perp walks danced in their heads.
The laptops recovered in a raid days ago, Shed new light on the crimes of our treasonous foe.
When up on the web there arose such a clatter, Big tech blocking accounts like free speech didn't matter.
Impeachment was threatened, amendment 25, "The Trump administration must not survive!"
They screamed from the rooftops, on every news show. "This bad bad bad orange man has just got to go!"
But Donald J Trump had a card up his sleeve, a card so glorious no one could believe.
You see, he had caught them. He set a big trap. He knew they would try this election fraud crap.
He watched them all do it, all in real time. He was sure that Mike Pence would certify their crime.
His intel had told him they'd planned a false flag, To make sure Trump's destruction was all in the bag.
The Dems told Antifa "Show up in disguise." "Wear your MAGA hats backwards so no one will get wise."
"When we start the debate, you all storm inside. Don't worry, the police will open doors wide."
"We will blame all your damage on Trump and his fans, So never again will Trump thwart all our plans."
Trump knew Dems would do this, he sent special ops, They dressed like Antifa and grabbed the laptops.
Upon them was evidence of egregious crimes. The Deep State had done this crap so many times.
Straight to the military the evidence went. Charges of treason were now imminent.
No screaming or crying would stop what was to come. Resignation and prison, and Gitmo for some.
Military tribunals will convict all these traitors. Who stole an election because they were haters.
When the trials are done and the votes are done right. Crimes done in the darkness have come to the light
... Trump will be sworn in to finish his eight.
And we will continue to make America great!”
- Anonymous

[Bill Ryan]

I don't think it's really that big of a mystery why the National Guard are deployed in these numbers now, they don't want the inauguration going the same way as the mayhem of January 6th.I think the unanswered question might be why 30,000 troops, a bunch of armored vehicles, and a fighter squadron of F-16s may be needed to stop the mayhem of someone with a MAGA hat climbing in through a window.

:)

[Apulu]

What's the fetishism with this forum about trump and the fascist, ultra right wing nazis that spin the narrative to fit their goals? I don't get it.

A very, very, one-sided opinion thrown onto a thread which is dedicated to collecting and discussing the evidence of an entirely corrupt US election? What do you think the reaction to that will be? You know very well, don't you?

The fact that your comment is so one-sided (stated as fact, and designed as an insult), and has absolutely nothing to back it up, means I and others can only conclude that you're deliberately looking for an argument, with no real substance to it. Sad really.

Are you feeling particularly bored with your life today? Seems like it 🙂

excellent analysis.... but still, how effectively was this pot stirred? haha... guess we are all still human.

🙂 I couldn't help myself no. It's hard to actually be bothered by the post I'm responding to I think but I saw this person post elsewhere in exactly the same kind of vain and I suddenly found myself weighing in. Don't be fooled if you think I was feeling emotional when I wrote that!

Yeah I get the distinct feeling a pot is being stirred for base-level entertainment... consciously or not... sigh

[Arcturian108]

I don't think it's really that big of a mystery why the National Guard are deployed in these numbers now, they don't want the inauguration going the same way as the mayhem of January 6th.

Gracy,
My husband was at the Capitol on Jan. 6th, and didn't see anything crazy happening on the mall side of the Capitol. He told me there was not a single police officer in sight and he was there with thousands of others. The craziness occurred on the other side of the building before any of the Trump supporters could walk there from the Ellipse. And then throw Antifa in the mix with their Trump paraphernalia and voila we have what the media wanted to show us. This Jan. 6th event was a false flag, just like the Reichstag Fire.

[SilentFeathers]

I don't think it's really that big of a mystery why the National Guard are deployed in these numbers now, they don't want the inauguration going the same way as the mayhem of January 6th.I think the unanswered question might be why 30,000 troops, a bunch of armored vehicles, and a fighter squadron of F-16s may be needed to stop the mayhem of someone with a MAGA hat climbing in through a window.

:)

Personally I don't think the large number of troops in DC is strictly for the inauguration, but, more so for the appearance to the world that things are more in control now and that we are not so ridiculously vulnerable. On January 6th the whole world seen that our Capital can be easily stormed & over-run by a large group of simple peasants armed with flag poles!

I think there is a lot more serious things going on behinds the scenes than just election fraud and 74 million pissed off Americans.

[greybeard]

The large show of Military and Air force may be a warning -- dont come here.
I dont think the warning is to MAGA -- but to what I dont know.
Cant see China engaging in war -- they have no need to -- take over by stealth more their mode .
Anyway hopefully we will soon know what is going on.
Chris

[Gracy]

I don't think it's really that big of a mystery why the National Guard are deployed in these numbers now, they don't want the inauguration going the same way as the mayhem of January 6th.I think the unanswered question might be why 30,000 troops, a bunch of armored vehicles, and a fighter squadron of F-16s may be needed to stop the mayhem of someone with a MAGA hat climbing in through a window.

:)

Well Bill, two things here:

1) Just for the record, according to "National Guard", The Defense Department has authorized up to 25,000. That's still a lot of course, and I don't know why that many are needed either, but if it's gone up I'll gladly stand corrected! :)


The Defense Department has agreed to provide up to 25,000 service members to support the Presidential Inauguration National Special Security Event federal law enforcement mission and security preparations, as led by the U.S. Secret Service. The Department of the Army and the National Guard Bureau are working on a sourcing solution now to support this request.
https://www.nationalguard.mil/Resources/Press-Releases/Article/2474123/25k-authorized-50-states-three-territories-and-dc-supporting-presidential-inaug/

So far as an F-16 squadron that may be needed as well, has anyone confirmed this beyond what talking heads are saying on YouTube?

2) If the events of January 6th were nothing but "someone with a MAGA hat climbing in through a window", or "a bunch of tourists wandering around" as was described here a couple of days ago, I seriously doubt we'd be seeing this.

Fortunately as I've noted on more than one occasion recently, time is short, the window of opportunity is closing on all of these wild predictions and speculations, so we'll all be finding out for sure soon enough.

The litany of ever compelling story lines would surely move on as usual if it really is just a huge show of force for inauguration, but not these current story lines. They can't, so again we'll all see shortly.

[TomKat]

I was very relieved (and at the same disgusted) to read proof that the Sidney Powell so-called "official" account on Telegram was created and was being run by an imposter, going under the channel name of "The Trumpist (https://t.me/TheTrumpist)" on that same platform.

_______________________________________



The Account is run by a shady group with a donation scheme.
Published on: January 16, 2021 10:37 PM

The Sidney Powell Telegram account has grown very large with over 175,000 followers. A post circulated today from this account that badmouthed the President claiming he has taken no action to defend the republic. Based on the independent research of TRM this article will show that this is an imposter account just recently created that is coercing Powell's supporters into a fraudulent donation scam.

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fcd1ee7c5fd2932d5b19f7d/6003a0edc68eaa6a24f5a9ec_post1.jpg

Here is the initial post from "official channel of Sidney Powell" (https://t.me/SidneyPowell) that garnered much attention and comments on social media. Many people were confused and wondered why she would make this statement. Well it is quite possible that Sidney Powell never did make that comment. In the midst of the widespread social media blackout we have seen no indications from the real Sidney Powell that she is associated to this Telegram group. We haven't seen indications from anybody at this point so it would be best to assume that such an account would be a fake. But with a little digging it can be proven to be a fake.

(...)

Full article: https://www.republicanmandate.com/news-post-articles/sidney-powell-fake-telegram-account

It's ironic that the fake Sidney Powell seems to have a better handle on what's going on than the real one!

[Eric J (Viking)]

A couple of days now and there are so many that have put their neck on the lines ... day off Monday and Tuesday I’ll be meditating...

Operation Disclosure | By Wayne Miller, Contributing Writer

January 17, 2021

HERE WE GO

Patriots, allow me to say it again, HERE WE GO! Your patience has payed off, or if you are one that came up a little short in the patience department, (as most of us are at times), there is no need to wait any longer, the end game is upon us, we will very soon hear the word CHECKMATE, if not literally, at at least figuratively. "THE PLAN" is about to achieve it's purpose of defeating the [D]eep State.

It seems that either today, or tomorrow, we will hear the words from our President, we have awaited, for what seems a very long time. From all I've been able to ascertain, President Trump, will begin a series of broadcasts either today, or Monday, over the Emergency Broadcast System, that will carry his messages both across our country, and across the world.

We're near the moment, we will either be asked to stay in our homes, or possibly we will come under Marshall law, and be ordered to stay indoors. Either way, this will be done to keep us safe from any skirmish that may arise, during the massive number of arrests that will be made. Our military has a heavy presence in our nations capital, and has said to be deployed in all of our state capitals, being part on more than over 400 cities across the country where the military is deployed. Please rest assured the White Hat Alliance have everything under control. In countries all over the world, militaries under the leadership of President Trump, and the Alliance, will be carrying out similar operations simultaneously. The Alliance is taking back the control of the world from the Satanic, Deep State Cabal. Hallelujah!

Broadcasts will be made over the EBS, which will show many former leaders confessing their crimes, and will also give us a chance to see many of the horrifically evil acts many of them have committed. At this time, we will almost assuredly witness the greatest awakening in human history. Families at odds with each other will reunite, after the differences that forced them apart will disappear.

In a couple of months we will have new elections as required by the implementation of NESARA, and President Trump will become the first President of the new Republic. Having just entered the Age of Aquarius, coupled with the fall of the Cabal, we will transition into a world President Trump has often spoke of when he said numerous times, "The best is yet to come!"



As we spend time, perhaps isolated from others, please continue to be in prayer for safety of our President, his family, the Alliance, our military, and law enforcement.

As God loving people, we have so much to be thankful for. I'm thankful to be alive at this moment in history, in the generation that will witness the swords being turned into plowshares, the lion laying down next to the lamb, and to be living at a time when it will soon appear that we are living in Heaven on Earth.

May God Bless our new united world that is about to appear!

Viking

[T Smith]

I don't think it's really that big of a mystery why the National Guard are deployed in these numbers now, they don't want the inauguration going the same way as the mayhem of January 6th.

That makes very little sense, in my opinion. If I'm missing the elephant in the room, please. Let me know.

First, the Trump rally on the 6th was planned for weeks, as a non-violent rally. There was never any chatter about violence. There are no Trump rallies or Trump protests planned for the 20th whatsoever. None. In fact, every pro-Trump platform (that is still standing and hasn't been censored or cancelled) is explicitly telling all Trump supporters to stay as far away from D.C. as possible on January 20. Every last one of them. If you scroll down through all the comments on the blogs/websites, everybody is saying the same thing. Don't be part of a setup. STAY HOME. If you can find one example otherwise that is explicitly calling for protests on the 20th, please share.

I guarantee there will be no Trump supporters in D.C. on the 20th, save for maybe a few stray crazies that exist across the political spectrum, or more likely, false flag agitators looking to spin narrative to advance a diabolical leftist agenda.

Second, as I'm sure you're well aware, Gracy, the violence that transpired on the 6th was a false flag (https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/01/06/who-helped-antifa-storm-the-capitol/), planned ahead by anti-Trump agitators, and initiated by BLM/Antifia (https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-fbi-arrests-left-wing-anarchist-leader-john-sullivan-for-inciting-riot-in-capitol-siege/). Yes, there were Trump supporters in the capitol building. But they were let in--practically invited in (watch the video evidence for yourself)--and were infiltrated by BLM/Antifa/CNN-and-anti-Trump agitators. At minimum, the events of January 6 were allowed to happen, regardless of which group broke what window and who did what. Where was the security? Why was the reinforcement of the capitol building virtually absent with a million protestors outside? It makes no sense, unless what happened was exactly what the PTB wanted to happen.

This was staged.

Third, do you really need anti-missile equipment to shoot incoming missiles out of the sky, or to deploy the air force to quell fictitious protestors? Why is sophisticated wartime equipment being deployed to stop a supposed resistance attack?

Fourth, isn't it a visual event to begin with? To whom are the alleged protestors supposed to protest? We are essentially talking about a zoom-call event. Yet there are more troops armed to the teeth than there were deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

We are living in a world of subjective truth, where we are told 2+2=5 and we are forced not only to accept, but to believe.

[greybeard]

Gracy --you remind me of my mother whom I loved.
Dad called her "The opposition party"
Mind you its good to have you coming up with an opposing view.
I seem to remember the words "means well" and Im sure you do.
Best wishes
Chris

[Sirus]

The Democrats are afraid of pro trump national guardsmen too and other military personnel. Quite funny then, that they will be surrounded by them...all armed to the teeth:)

[Gracy]

Gracy --you remind me of my mother whom I loved.
Dad called her "The opposition party"
Mind you its good to have you coming up with an opposing view.
I seem to remember the words "means well" and Im sure you do.
Best wishes
Chris

Aw, that's very sweet Chris! :heart:

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

[ExomatrixTV]

http://whynotnews.eu/pix/inaug-cartoon.png

In all seriousness there IS a deep deep rooted corruption to be found in both parties on almost all levels ... it seems like who has the best spin-doctors & perception-managers + cover up & bribe team to get a way with it for so so long ...

But there is a different angle to it that is mostly forgot: "many past non-voters" voted for Trump because he is seen as an outsider cleaning up the mess in Republican Party GOP and with that it has MANY Republican "Never Trumpers" on record before, during and now "after" desperately wanting to keep the old ways. What about all War-monger Neo-cons the cheney's the bushes the powells network HATING Trump not to mention almost all dinosaur MSM networks AND Big Tech: Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, PayPal, Amazon etc. etc. AND literally all Globalists Bankers, Technocrats (http://technocracy.news), WHO, IMF, CFR, Bilderbergers, TLC, WEF (https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/) on and on and on.


It is even a miracle if you can change 5% of the whole corrupt system at all ... Trump did much more than that IGNORED or "forgotten" by most (spoiled) people!

Bipartisan Deep(state) rooted corruption can ONLY work well for decades and decades IF there is no real "Third Party" challenging both of them.

I remember the "Tea Party Movement" being successful with big help from Alex Jones (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113651-Fleeing-the-Ship--Alex-Jones-doesn-t-support-Qanon-&p=1403781&viewfull=1#post1403781) listeners network (2006-2007) being hijacked by the Republicans and Glenn Back (after they ridiculed them first) as it was originally focused on certain core principles that Ron Paul (https://www.youtube.com/c/RonPaulLibertyReport/featured) explained from a Libertarian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism) perspectives NOT necessarily Republican ... I remember the mass media calling Ron Paul not a real Republican but much more like a Libertarian (not to be confused with Liberalism in bed with Corporatism & Dystopian Totalitarian Agenda2030 Orwellian 'The Great Reset (http://tinyurl.com/TheGreatReset)').

ps. according to wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement) (another globalist corrupted platform) Tea Party Movement "started" in 2009 which is a LIE it was in 2006-2007.

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
December 17, 2020

[Merkaba360]

My legal friend told me something interesting to consider. He said that it makes sense from a legal standpoint that Trump would need to wait until Biden is sworn in, in order to arrest him and those involved. One possibility for this annoying wait. lol Technically, he hasn't stolen any presidency yet and requires him to take the final step to begin prosecution lawsuits.

Even if it is 25,000 NG troops and not 30,000....i heard some people say their marine family members have been deployed, supposedly 6,000ish. That would make it 31,000. I wonder If the NG's job is primarily to stand guard (stationary) of all the capitals and key structures, (I think they have enough and dont need the help of 6000 marines lol). While the marines are deployed to work as many small mobilized groups that are able to seek out places or groups where trouble could pop up? Maybe some covert missions foiling deep state plans of trickery. lol I sure hope the military isn't going to be creating their own false flags to feed the media for manipulating the people.

[atman]

We are living in a world of subjective truth, where we are told 2+2=5 and we are forced not only to accept, but to believe.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1350904883482923011

The clip shown in Jack Posobiec's tweet, in which he simply wrote the word "Insurrection" in quotation marks, starts at 6:18 in the following video, released today by The New Yorker:

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[BoR]

Gracy --you remind me of my mother whom I loved.
Dad called her "The opposition party"
Mind you its good to have you coming up with an opposing view.
I seem to remember the words "means well" and Im sure you do.
Best wishes
Chris

Aw, that's very sweet Chris! :heart:

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

Every family needs a black sheep. You're Avalon's 😄 Just kidding of course. I admire your perseverance. You are always respectful when you disagree. And you don't let your opinions influence your task as moderator, as it should be of course, but not everyone is capable of that, so kudo's!

[Blastolabs]

Letter from US Director of National Intelligence regarding Foreign Threats to the 2020 Elections
(https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/6d274110-a84b-4694-96cd-6a902207d2bd/note/733364cf-0afb-412d-a5b4-ab797a8ba154.)


Letter from Dr. Barry Zelauf from the office of the DNI
https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/c3c41863-be9e-4246-9ed9-e43aedd013f9/note/4e677597-f403-4c9b-b838-f5613d79b341.

[ExomatrixTV]

NEW: Texas AG Ken Paxton Discusses Raquel Rodriguez Voter Fraud Arrest Following Veritas Video:

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[greybeard]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iap6XiSTFkc

[Eric J (Viking)]

Mass Media, Internet to go Offline, EBS Activated while US Republic Restored on Monday

By Judy Byington as reported in Before It’s News: https://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2021/01/mass-media-internet-to-go-offline-ebs-activated-while-us-republic-restored-on-monday-3223516.html

On Mon. 18 Jan. the US Republic would be restored to the original Constitution and return power to The People. To make that happen, the Mass Media and Internet would go offline while the Emergency Broadcast System was activated with messages from President Trump.

On Sunday 17 Jan the below was sent from a high up US Military Intel Contact:

“According to the latest schedule everything will be exposed sometime between Sunday afternoon and Monday night. The timer has been set for those two particular days. During that time the EBS (Emergency Broadcast System) will be activated. President Trump will send out a message, “My fellow Americans, The Storm is Upon us.”

“There will be seven presidential text messages sent from him via Air Force One following the message “The Storm is Upon Us.” That puts us under full global martial law.

“Via the EBS and on authorized devices, there will be an eight hour video played three times a day for ten days straight. They contain video confessions of high profile elite individuals being exposed for their Crimes Against Humanity at their military tribunals.

“While the movie is being played, 500,000 plus people would be taken down worldwide. This repeating movie will be extremely painful for most of us because it involved people we thought we could trust committing unthinkable crimes.

“We understand that no one will be allowed to leave their residence until completion.

“During this moment in history we will transition to GESARA/NESARA. There will be a full rewiring of planet earth. It is our understanding that media and internet will be shut down.

“This is not a transition from President Trump to [B]iden. It is a transition that President Trump in conjunction with the military have composed restoring things back to We The People. Now you know why General Flynn was pardoned (key asset to this entire process).

“We are preparing for a brand new future where humanity is free from the constraints of former powers. There will finally be a world free of division amongst the people.

“Everyone must understand this is serious so please have enough food, water, batteries and necessities for the duration of Ten Days of Darkness."

For years the above has been planned to take down what was known as the Cabal – a Sat*an worshipping, chi*ld sac*rifice group of global and political elites who were trying to establish a New World Order – with the beginnings of their takeover being the 2020 Presidential Election.

President Trump and Patriots of the Alliance to the rescue.

Further reading
https://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com/2021/01/mass-media-internet-to-go-offline-ebs.html

Viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this on my travels...


Why are TV stations being told by the FCC their programming will be pre-empted on Wednesday morning—Jan. 20th?

http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/image.png

Viking

[mountain_jim]

^ yes, while I posted the above in the Q thread, without much additional confirmation it could be just creative 'larpism' on the chans. So if anyone finds additional confirmation I am all ears.

[Eric J (Viking)]

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“NG SGM dispersed written plan detailing the role of the NG at the capitol come Jan 20. We have essentially been told to standby and await orders from the sitting POTUS for what to do. I can only assume this means, along with the general attitude of my CO towards Biden, that we will be working to secure the integrity of our election by maintaining a peaceful continuation of power followed by arrests of those believed to have orchestrated the fraud. I assume because of the nature of the crime and the people involved that a SHTF event will be ENORMOUS so be prepared for what is to come. Again, if you haven’t stocked up on the necessities at this point you are going to find yourself in a hell of a knot getting supplies last minute. Godspeed.”

Submitted by an anonymous NATIONAL GUARDSMAN

Viking

[Chris Gilbert]

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

My thoughts on all of this are much in line with yours. I'm doubtful anything will happen in the next couple days. There's a slim possibility I suppose, and I will admit to being wrong if the white hats do suddenly rush out of the woodwork to take out the bad guys via insurrection order or martial law, but I just don't see that happening. Even if some of these predictions do come true, I think those of us in the US would swiftly come to regret being in a divided country under martial law where over half the populace sees the president as a dictator.

If I'm right and nothing does happen, this forum and alternative thinkers in general are going to have to leave the last 4 years in the dustbin along with Simon Parkes, Corey Goode, 2012, Y2k predictions and so many other dead ends that went no where. We should do some soul searching in regards to our lack of discernment....but many won't and will keep spamming the next round of Youtube/Rumble straw grasping.

[pueblo]

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

My thoughts on all of this are much in line with yours. I'm doubtful anything will happen in the next couple days. There's a slim possibility I suppose, and I will admit to being wrong if the white hats do suddenly rush out of the woodwork to take out the bad guys via insurrection order or martial law, but I just don't see that happening. Even if some of these predictions do come true, I think those of us in the US would swiftly come to regret being in a divided country under martial law where over half the populace sees the president as a dictator.

If I'm right and nothing does happen, this forum and alternative thinkers in general are going to have to leave the last 4 years in the dustbin along with Simon Parkes, Corey Goode, 2012, Y2k predictions and so many other dead ends that went no where. We should do some soul searching in regards to our lack of discernment....but many won't and will keep spamming the next round of Youtube/Rumble straw grasping.

Re: the bit above in bold (my emphasis)....This is going to happen no matter who is president.

Just out of interest do you think the 2020 US election was fair and above board?

[Chris Gilbert]

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

My thoughts on all of this are much in line with yours. I'm doubtful anything will happen in the next couple days. There's a slim possibility I suppose, and I will admit to being wrong if the white hats do suddenly rush out of the woodwork to take out the bad guys via insurrection order or martial law, but I just don't see that happening. Even if some of these predictions do come true, I think those of us in the US would swiftly come to regret being in a divided country under martial law where over half the populace sees the president as a dictator.

If I'm right and nothing does happen, this forum and alternative thinkers in general are going to have to leave the last 4 years in the dustbin along with Simon Parkes, Corey Goode, 2012, Y2k predictions and so many other dead ends that went no where. We should do some soul searching in regards to our lack of discernment....but many won't and will keep spamming the next round of Youtube/Rumble straw grasping.

Re: the bit above in bold (my emphasis)....This is going to happen no matter who is president.

Just out of interest do you think the 2020 US election was fair and above board?

There's some things about it that seem fishy to me. The video in Georgia for instance, and some of the mathematical anomalies. If any fraud did occur however, I see it as more likely to be in the range of several dozen thousand votes in key swing states. The larger any supposed fraud, the harder it would be to conceal. Even with some several dozen thousand votes being fraudulent, Biden still has the popular vote. There could be room to pursue the issue even after inauguration, but it needs to be done in the right way, via smarter legal challenges that can't be thrown out on technicalities for instance. After January 6th, the tide has turned against the more extreme measures people fantasize about.

I would note too that if some polls are to be believed, the percentage are hardcore Trump supporters that would agree to martial law are far less than those who would percieve his actions as dictatorial.

68% of public does not want Trump to remain a major political figure in the future/ (https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/01/15/biden-begins-presidency-with-positive-ratings-trump-departs-with-lowest-ever-job-mark/)

[Arcturian108]

From today's Alexandra Bruce's posting (Forbiddenknowledgetv - https://t.me/FKTVupdates

Maria Zack, who broke the story about the Leonardo Italian military satellites being used to help steal the 2020 US Election appears with John Chambers and Susan Bradford on Making Sense of the Madness with the Earth-shattering details that led to a major crisis in the Italian government and also likely caused the major social media sites to de-platform President Trump and tens of thousands of his supporters, to slow the spread of this story before the January 20th Inauguration.

Susan Bradford's article, below has additional details.
Meanwhile, CIA Director Gina Haspel has not appeared at her office in Langley, Virginia and has not been seen since early November. It is not know if she is dead or in Witness Protection.

The Italian, German, Dutch and Estonian governments are all simultaneously on the verge of collapse at the moment.
Washington, DC has been transformed into a gigantic TSA screening area. All cars attempting to leave the city are being stopped and passengers are being asked for ID. There are reports of a "List". If you're on the list, you cannot leave town.

I was surprised to see the post from astrophysicist, Paul LaViolette in my Telegram feed:

January 15, 2021

The deep state take down is coming very soon to planet earth.
Everything may be down except SOME SPECIFIC TYPES OF IP
traffic. No internet, no phones cell or landlines, no media nothing on radio or tv.

Emergency messages only and I am not sure how they will come in from the US GOV.

While you still can, get the SIGNAL APP before January 19th.

Neocon Traitors Staged Election Upset
by Susan Bradford

January 15, 2021

Circumstances surrounding allegations of Italy's involvement in switching votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election reveal that Trump was betrayed by allies closest to him and that we are in trouble as a nation. The traitors who allegedly rigged the election were globalists and war mongers frustrated with President Trump's refusal to accommodate neoconservative plans for regime change in Iran.

Barack Obama started the ball rolling in 2015 with the Joint Comprehensive Plan for Action in which a slush fund was set aside for Iran as compensation for international sanctions it had endured over its nuclear development program. Iran promised that the program would have peaceful applications and agreed to release American prisoners in exchange for the money.

The following year Obama met with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi to discuss the challenges they respectively faced with regards to the public's rejection of globalism. During this meeting plans were set in motion to derail the prospective Trump Administration, with $400 million set aside from the $1.7 billion designated for Iran to be used to flip votes from Trump to Biden in the 2020 presidential election. The plan was to prevent Trump from serving a second term, with $400 million routed through the Vatican for this purpose.

According to Nations in Action, a government oversight group, the plan was executed by Stefano Serafini, a foreign service officer of 20 years; and Claudio Graziano, the Chair of the European Union Military Committee and member of the Board of Leonardo SpA, an Italian multinational specializing in aerospace, defense, and security.

In witness testimony, Arturo D'Elia, the former head of the IT Department at Leonardo SpA, confirmed that votes were flipped from Trump to Biden in key states. In some cases, he said, data was altered to represent more than the total number of voters registered. D'Elia said that he received his instructions from American employees working at the U.S. Embassy in Rome and that he can reveal the names of all the individuals and entities involved. He also holds in his possession a backup drive containing the original data and data switched; Italian intelligence officers reportedly have intercepts, phone calls, and pictures of the CIA agents involved.

According to testimony from Italy, Leonardo SpA's computer systems and military satellites switched the votes through Dominion servers. The data was then allegedly transferred from Pescara to Frankfurt, Germany via satellite, accounting for a dramatic CIA raid and firefight in Frankfurt to destroy the evidence of election fraud.

As a defense contractor, Leonardo partners with Israeli firms, like Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. Listed as Rafael's lobbyist on record is a former Chief of Staff to Sen Joe Lieberman, a leading neoconservative hawk. The CEO of Leonardo is William Lynn III, Undersecretary of Defense for the Clinton Administration and lobbyist for Raytheon.

Once the story of election tampering broke in the United States, social media platforms immediately purged patriot accounts to block circulation of the story. Remarkably, Twitter even suspended Donald Trump's own account, preventing the President from sharing information that would derail Biden's attempt to steal the election, expose alleged treason, and implicate high profile individuals.

For decades now, neoconservatives have sought regime change in Iran through military strikes, with the country designated as part of an “axis of evil” to justify war. President Donald Trump campaigned in 2016 to end wars that were not in the national interest and which destroyed lives and wasted precious resources.

Many of his closest advisers were not so inclined, including Rudy Giuliani and Newt Gingrich. In 2018, Giuliani, an advisor and attorney for Trump, was keynote speaker at a rally for the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), a group that seeks regime change in Iran. Throughout his speech, Giuliani compared Iranian mullahs to the mafia and called for regime change in this foreign country. He also delivered a letter on behalf of a bipartisan coalition of U.S. politicians and officials, including Sen. Joe Lieberman. Newt Gingrich was in attendance.

It appears that Giuliani and Gingrich took matters into their own hands after Trump doggedly refused to kowtow to neoconservative demands.

According to reports, the federal government awarded nearly $1 billion in contracts to Leonardo SpA last year. This is not a large amount considering that the company invested $950 million to lobby the federal government that year. Without war, the defense contractors weren't making money.

Remarkably, several of Leonardo SpA's lobbyists worked for Trump – including, for example, Dan McFaul, who served on Trump's 2016 Transition Team, a role that allowed him to recommend appointments to the Trump Administration. McFaul's employer, Ballard Partners, was founded by Brian Ballard, Trump's lobbyist in Florida. According to The Tampa Bay Times, Ballard even raised $16 million for Trump.

However, Trump was not Ballard's preferred candidate – he favored Jeb Bush as heir apparent. Once Trump became the Republican presidential nominee, Ballard supported Trump by default, after having raised money for Sen. John McCain and Sen. Mitt Romney, who publicly disparaged Trump.

The firm has an office in Tel Aviv, Israel; its representative there is Congressman Robert Wexler, a member of Obama's re-election Steering Committee who crafted Obama's policies toward Israel for the Democratic National Convention.

A few months before the 2020 presidential election, Wexler was featured in an article entitled “Biden is the most pro-Israel nominee ever.” He also penned an article for The Sun Sentinel stating that he supported Obama's deal with Iran to curtail its nuclear program. In contrast, Trump characterized the agreement as “the worst deal ever.”

Wexler is President of the Washington-based S. Daniel Abraham Center for Middle East Peace. Recently the organization asked: “Is Peace Still Possible?” For neoconservatives, the answer is no.
In an article for the Jerusalem Post that was published in August of 2019, Wexler wrote that the United States should “reaffirm our commitment to confront Iranian aggression and include Iran's support for terrorism in future negotiations.” In other words, Wexler has endorsed the hawkish neoconservative position against Iran. Ballard also employs Courtney Whitney, a Partner with the pro-Biden Super PAC, Priorities USA.

A dedicated globalist, Obama tried to prevent Trump from becoming President. He then frustrated Trump's ability to govern once elected, even going so far as to spy on the presidential campaign and to spur impeachment hearings against Trump over false claims that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. Obama then unleashed waves of his community organizers who threatened to burn down cities if Trump got re-elected.

Biden appears to be making preparations for war in line with neoconservative plans. As the Washington Examiner reported this week, Biden tapped William Burns for CIA Director. Burns led a secretive back channel with the Iranian regime prior to Obama's deal with Iran. Burns has reportedly accused Iran of exporting instability across the Middle East.

However, Iran is not the country exporting instability and terrorism around the world nor is it interfering in the elections of other countries. It would not even be in this country's interests to become aggressive, lest it invite military retaliation against itself, which would amount to suicide for this country.

Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu has claimed that Israel has obtained thousands of Iranian secret nuclear files that show new and conclusive proof of the secret nuclear weapons program that Iran has been hiding for years. In response to these revelations, Trump withdrew from Obama's nuclear deal but never took the bait to strike Iran.

Haaretz is already reporting that Iran announced that it is escalating its nuclear program in what was called “a step-by-step guide to triggering a nuclear crisis.”

The election was apparently rigged by Trump insiders working in collusion with Obama to offset a second Trump term. Based upon witness testimony, the orders for election tampering came from employees at the U.S. Embassy in Rome. The Ambassador would therefore have been briefed, and potentially complicit in the fraud.

The U.S. Ambassador to Italy is Lewis Eisenberg, who was McCain's national finance co-chair and Rudy Giuliani's friend. Eisenberg was Chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey during the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center, which the Port Authority operated. While serving on the Bush-Cheney Presidential Transition Team, Eisenberg recommended personnel for the Bush Administration that brought us the Patriotic Act, which stripped Americans of their civil liberties in the name of “fighting terrorism” – legislation authored by none other than Biden himself.

On the recommendation of former RNC Chair Reince Priebus, who served briefly as White House Chief of Staff under Trump until he was fired, Eisenberg was appointed fundraiser for Trump. While Eisenberg oversaw the U.S. Embassy in Rome, the U.S. Embassy at the Vatican was managed by Newt Gingrich's wife, Callista, whom Trump appointed Ambassador to the Vatican. Newt has been residing at the Vatican with Callista while under coronavirus quarantine. As stated, the money diverted from the Iran deal to rig the election against Trump was laundered through the Vatican, where Newt Gingrich's wife happens to be Ambassador.

As the Biden's inauguration approaches, tensions have increased with Iran. U.S. Central Command is monitoring the situation. Multiple B-52 bombers have flown missions over international waters near Iran after Trump ordered the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier to turn around and remain in the Persian Gulf.

Meanwhile, Guiliani has led a series of rather embarrassing, ill fated lawsuits in a comedic, if incompetent, effort to contest the election, as if attempting to sabotage Trump's chances intentionally. One Georgia election official even accused Giuliani of presenting “deceptively edited” video as evidence.

Worse, Giuliani's incendiary rhetoric provided an excuse for Social Media platforms to suspend Trump's accounts. At the Capitol Hill rally on January 6th in which Trump supporters peacefully convened to support their President during the certification of electoral votes, Giuliani delivered a speech in which he called for “trial by combat” as if intending to incite violence.

The violence that ensued provided the pretext Social Media platforms needed to censor patriots at a time when allegations of election tampering were circulating.

Giuliani was even photographed with one of the actors who stormed Congress – the protester with body paint, who dressed as a shaman and wore a Viking-type head dress and animal pelts. The 32-year-old man, identified as Jake Angeli, was accused of inciting violence while identifying himself as as Trump-supporting patriot.

Once the plan had been executed in Italy, Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu immediately endorsed Biden for President even though Trump was still contesting the election. Netanyahu even removed a photo of himself with Trump from his Twitter banner as if to signal that he was fully on board with an incoming Biden Administration.

At this point, no real effort is being made to contest the election in which witnesses have admitted under oath to their participation in election tampering and fraud. Giving hint to Trump's defeat, La Verita, an Italian newspaper that broke the original story concerning Italy's role in the election fraud, reported under a picture of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that an indictment was presented and that Trump would become a private citizen on January 20, Inauguration Day, with opponents seeking to ban him from ever returning to public office in violation of constitutional norms.

Trump's legacy has been to expose corruption in high places and to reveal fake news for what it is. He may also just have revealed the extent to which which Israel controls the American political system. If this is the case, we have to ask whether our fate is to move towards more democracy or less and whether Israel will abide by the law and agreements arranged to restore sovereignty to the United States and integrity to its institutions or whether it will try to extinguish freedom and democracy forever.

[mountain_jim]

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

My thoughts on all of this are much in line with yours. I'm doubtful anything will happen in the next couple days. There's a slim possibility I suppose, and I will admit to being wrong if the white hats do suddenly rush out of the woodwork to take out the bad guys via insurrection order or martial law, but I just don't see that happening. Even if some of these predictions do come true, I think those of us in the US would swiftly come to regret being in a divided country under martial law where over half the populace sees the president as a dictator.

If I'm right and nothing does happen, this forum and alternative thinkers in general are going to have to leave the last 4 years in the dustbin along with Simon Parkes, Corey Goode, 2012, Y2k predictions and so many other dead ends that went no where. We should do some soul searching in regards to our lack of discernment....but many won't and will keep spamming the next round of Youtube/Rumble straw grasping.

Nice to know the moderators still think Q-activated researchers 'lack discernment'. I guess that's better than being called Avalon parasites, as we were.

The 'went no where' is also inaccurate in my view- as future events affected by a much better informed and awake citizenry will prove, regardless of what may or may not happen this week.

In my view, anyone who thinks the attempt to bypass the MSM mind-control channels with the Q psyop was a larp, rather than a (possibly-failed) attempt to wake folks up to clean out the corruption in our country and world, is a candidate for the 'lacks discernment' label.

Or anyone who does the research but is still not aware that the election was stolen, and that almost nothing in the MSM over the last 4 years was an accurate and truthful narrative, is also a candidate for the 'lacks discernment' label.

(I do agree that while some of the posts and posters in this thread may fall in that category, the Q-channel attempt was coordinated/supported within the white house and with military intelligence support of some kind and was therefore a worthwhile area of research during last 4 years.)



https://gab.com/threesevens/posts/105572624178310206
Quote ThreeSevens
ThreeSevens
@threesevens

QAnon and the Great Awakening

I'd like to to address this, because I am tired of being told that Q was an OP to pacify me, when I've done more work in the truth movement for last few years because of Q, than at any other time in my life.

"The plan" always required our participation. It was not about pacification, it was about activation. It was about the Great Awakening.

Q activated an army of digital soldiers to counter the fake news. We did all the research work, created media of all types, and spread it relentlessly across social media all while being deplatformed, ridiculed, banned, censored, hated, and worse. We woke up millions anyway.

We fought in the trenches of the information war, while the naysayers and blackpillers did nothing but attempt to dampen our morale, which is actually worse than nothing. Killing the morale of patriots is useful only to the enemy, so don't do it. It takes a lot of nerve to criticize us about being pacified while sitting on the sidelines.

One more thing - HOPE IS ALWAYS CORRECT, because you never know if it's "false hope" until after the fact. Hopeless people have no fight. Always have hope, always spread hope.

Hopelessness is the real pacification OP.


Another view from a longterm Q researcher/supporter

Joe M, a longtime Q-anon movement commenter, creator of "Q - The Plan To Save The World" video series summarizes his current state of mind:

https://gab.com/StormIsUponUs



Friends. I have to go dark for a little while. This is literally the definition of "precipice" if there ever was one. Next week, either Q turns out to be an elaborate well-intentioned hoax promising a level of control that patriots never had, or we are all about to watch the Red Sea part and the unfolding of a new biblical-level chapter in human civilization. I believe it is the second one, because everything I have studied for the past 3 years points to the certainty of light overcoming dark. Remain strong in your faith that God wins, and get ready for the world to change forever.

[Eric J (Viking)]

WHAT is REALLY going on in Washington DC?

25,000 troops are currently in DC. This is four times more than the number of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq combined!

5,000 more are expected to arrive in the next few days.

Barricades and armored checkpoints are everywhere in DC.

All of this for the anticipated civil unrest by Trump supporters when Biden is inaugurated? I think not.

First, Trump supporters are not violent. This was proven, and now finally accepted by the government and even the Left Wing Media, after video evidence revealed BLM, Antifa, and even an imbedded CNN reporter were caught instigating the breach of the Capitol.

Second, President Trump is still in charge of the country, the military and our military leaders. This massive build up is NOT under Joe Biden’s control or even his request. President Trump is orchestrating this military build-up. WHY?

Take a look at this evidence of the build-up and you may get some clues…

https://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/images/vid/671a.jpg

More here with shorts videos... no police just military

https://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2021/01/16/what-is-really-happening-in-washington-dc-we-are-not-preparing-for-an-inauguration-look-at-the-evidence/#671c

There is so much confusion, misinformation, and speculation being circulated right now, but one thing is undeniably real. Washington, DC is readying for something VERY BIG to happen. In our lifetimes we have never seen a military build-up like this in Washington, DC.

Here are some videos where people are making their predictions on what is going to happen come January 20. If you are asking me, my gut tells me the military build-up is NOT to protect the Inauguration, but the inauguration plays into it. For your entertainment and education, enjoy these different views and predictions…

https://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2021/01/16/what-is-really-happening-in-washington-dc-we-are-not-preparing-for-an-inauguration-look-at-the-evidence/#671c

https://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/firearms671#671d

Viking

[TomKat]

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

My thoughts on all of this are much in line with yours. I'm doubtful anything will happen in the next couple days. There's a slim possibility I suppose, and I will admit to being wrong if the white hats do suddenly rush out of the woodwork to take out the bad guys via insurrection order or martial law, but I just don't see that happening. Even if some of these predictions do come true, I think those of us in the US would swiftly come to regret being in a divided country under martial law where over half the populace sees the president as a dictator.

If I'm right and nothing does happen, this forum and alternative thinkers in general are going to have to leave the last 4 years in the dustbin along with Simon Parkes, Corey Goode, 2012, Y2k predictions and so many other dead ends that went no where. We should do some soul searching in regards to our lack of discernment....but many won't and will keep spamming the next round of Youtube/Rumble straw grasping.

You couldn't be more wrong. I have it on good authority that Superman will be personally arresting Joe Biden in mid-speech! Yes, Superman has joined the patriot movement. Also, if you live in Gotham City, you need not worry. Batman and Robin to the rescue!

[Journeyman]

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

My thoughts on all of this are much in line with yours. I'm doubtful anything will happen in the next couple days. There's a slim possibility I suppose, and I will admit to being wrong if the white hats do suddenly rush out of the woodwork to take out the bad guys via insurrection order or martial law, but I just don't see that happening. Even if some of these predictions do come true, I think those of us in the US would swiftly come to regret being in a divided country under martial law where over half the populace sees the president as a dictator.

If I'm right and nothing does happen, this forum and alternative thinkers in general are going to have to leave the last 4 years in the dustbin along with Simon Parkes, Corey Goode, 2012, Y2k predictions and so many other dead ends that went no where. We should do some soul searching in regards to our lack of discernment....but many won't and will keep spamming the next round of Youtube/Rumble straw grasping.

Discernment is always a good thing. I would however draw a distinction between the Q drops and whatever drops out of Corey, Simon or the likes orifices....

Initially I just relied on the main stream dismissal, after I'd looked at the posts themselves seriously, especially the earlier ones, as the later become more cheerleaders for Trump, I concluded they were the work of more than one person. That these people were trained professionals. That they had or had access to an impressive knowledge of global geo-politics and the intelligence world and, critically, that there was implicit backing from the Trump administration and elements of the military. I think as time has gone on that's become more obvious and the fact the mainstream media has never gone anywhere near this is one of the biggest red flags that there's forces blocking journalists from fulfilling their function.

It didn't mean I bought the entire narrative and still doesn't, but I can't dismiss it and frankly the last few days has seen more and more corroboration, not of the big headline stuff, but the supporting signals. Pompeo's twitter account over the past few days has been one ticked box after another. If all those following the Q posts have been played by folks commanding the resources of the US govt, then I don't think that's as bad as if it's by a guy with a webcam, a smooth tongue and a big imagination.

[Savannah]

WHAT is REALLY going on in Washington DC?

25,000 troops are currently in DC. This is four times more than the number of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq combined!

5,000 more are expected to arrive in the next few days.

Barricades and armored checkpoints are everywhere in DC.

All of this for the anticipated civil unrest by Trump supporters when Biden is inaugurated? I think not.

First, Trump supporters are not violent. This was proven, and now finally accepted by the government and even the Left Wing Media, after video evidence revealed BLM, Antifa, and even an imbedded CNN reporter were caught instigating the breach of the Capitol.

Second, President Trump is still in charge of the country, the military and our military leaders. This massive build up is NOT under Joe Biden’s control or even his request. President Trump is orchestrating this military build-up. WHY?

Take a look at this evidence of the build-up and you may get some clues…

https://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/images/vid/671a.jpg

More here with shorts videos... no police just military

https://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2021/01/16/what-is-really-happening-in-washington-dc-we-are-not-preparing-for-an-inauguration-look-at-the-evidence/#671c

There is so much confusion, misinformation, and speculation being circulated right now, but one thing is undeniably real. Washington, DC is readying for something VERY BIG to happen. In our lifetimes we have never seen a military build-up like this in Washington, DC.

Here are some videos where people are making their predictions on what is going to happen come January 20. If you are asking me, my gut tells me the military build-up is NOT to protect the Inauguration, but the inauguration plays into it. For your entertainment and education, enjoy these different views and predictions…

https://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2021/01/16/what-is-really-happening-in-washington-dc-we-are-not-preparing-for-an-inauguration-look-at-the-evidence/#671c

https://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/firearms671#671d

Viking

The bolts on the outside could also help let them in. Meaning allow Antifa in as they did on the 6th.

[T Smith]

Or anyone who does the research but is still not aware that the election was stolen, and that almost nothing in the MSM over the last 4 years was an accurate and truthful narrative, is also a candidate for the 'lacks discernment' label.



I second this comment emphatically. If there was a non-obnoxious way to emphasize this already-bolded observation, I would.

[Ernie Nemeth]

The MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the globalist agenda. MSM is not in the news reporting business, nor is it concerned with journalism. It merely reinforces the official narrative and talking points of the UN, China and select nations, and the global cabal they front for.

The MSM will now pay for their crimes in the form of lost membership and viewership, after which they will become irrelevant.

[Arcturian108]

Alan Dershowitz weighs in on the illegality of the recent impeachment of President Trump:

https://thenewamerican.com/dershowitz-congress-violated-constitution-six-ways-in-impeaching-trump/

[onevoice]

The MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the globalist agenda. MSM is not in the news reporting business, nor is it concerned with journalism. It merely reinforces the official narrative and talking points of the UN, China and select nations, and the global cabal they front for.

The MSM will now pay for their crimes in the form of lost membership and viewership, after which they will become irrelevant.

CNN filed for bankruptcy (https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/cnn-files-for-bankruptcy-chapter-11/) in November 2020. It is owned by AT&T, which is another evil big tech. I have seen many accounts of how they let NSA tap into their fiberoptic trunks to monitor global telecom traffic, with NSA tapping equipment co-located in the same building with AT&T. I do hope CNN actually goes bankrupt, it would be better for humanity if it did. I hope other MSM outlets go bankrupt as well, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

[Savannah]

The MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the globalist agenda. MSM is not in the news reporting business, nor is it concerned with journalism. It merely reinforces the official narrative and talking points of the UN, China and select nations, and the global cabal they front for.

The MSM will now pay for their crimes in the form of lost membership and viewership, after which they will become irrelevant.

CNN filed for bankruptcy (https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/cnn-files-for-bankruptcy-chapter-11/) in November 2020. It is owned by AT&T, which is another evil big tech. I have seen many accounts of how they let NSA tap into their fiberoptic trunks to monitor global telecom traffic, with NSA tapping equipment co-located in the same building with AT&T. I do hope CNN actually goes bankrupt, it would be better for humanity if it did. I hope other MSM outlets go bankrupt as well, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

I think these entitles have been backed up by dark money for years. They would have fallen a long time ago if it was truly a free market system.

[Arcturian108]

The MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the globalist agenda. MSM is not in the news reporting business, nor is it concerned with journalism. It merely reinforces the official narrative and talking points of the UN, China and select nations, and the global cabal they front for.

The MSM will now pay for their crimes in the form of lost membership and viewership, after which they will become irrelevant.

CNN filed for bankruptcy (https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/cnn-files-for-bankruptcy-chapter-11/) in November 2020. It is owned by AT&T, which is another evil big tech. I have seen many accounts of how they let NSA tap into their fiberoptic trunks to monitor global telecom traffic, with NSA tapping equipment co-located in the same building with AT&T. I do hope CNN actually goes bankrupt, it would be better for humanity if it did. I hope other MSM outlets go bankrupt as well, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

There is no confirmation of CNN filing for bankruptcy except this one article. So not necessarily true.

[onevoice]

The MSM is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the globalist agenda. MSM is not in the news reporting business, nor is it concerned with journalism. It merely reinforces the official narrative and talking points of the UN, China and select nations, and the global cabal they front for.

The MSM will now pay for their crimes in the form of lost membership and viewership, after which they will become irrelevant.

CNN filed for bankruptcy (https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/cnn-files-for-bankruptcy-chapter-11/) in November 2020. It is owned by AT&T, which is another evil big tech. I have seen many accounts of how they let NSA tap into their fiberoptic trunks to monitor global telecom traffic, with NSA tapping equipment co-located in the same building with AT&T. I do hope CNN actually goes bankrupt, it would be better for humanity if it did. I hope other MSM outlets go bankrupt as well, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

There is no confirmation of CNN filing for bankruptcy except this one article. So not necessarily true.

You're right, Arcturian108, it looks like the article I referenced of CNN filing for bankruptcy is probably not true. I do see several references to AT&T looking to sell CNN. AT&T is in financial trouble with $150B in debt. I've had AT&T as my ISP, and I don't like them. They force everyone into yearly contracts with financial penalty for breaking the contract early. And every year, they raise the fee.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2020-06-29/cnn-center-is-for-sale-but-employees-will-remain-in-atlanta

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-att-trump-ratings-buy-debt-charlie-gasparino

[ramus]

Mass Media, Internet to go Offline, EBS Activated while US Republic Restored on Monday

By Judy Byington as reported in Before It’s News: https://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2021/01/mass-media-internet-to-go-offline-ebs-activated-while-us-republic-restored-on-monday-3223516.html

On Mon. 18 Jan. the US Republic would be restored to the original Constitution and return power to The People. To make that happen, the Mass Media and Internet would go offline while the Emergency Broadcast System was activated with messages from President Trump.

On Sunday 17 Jan the below was sent from a high up US Military Intel Contact:

“According to the latest schedule everything will be exposed sometime between Sunday afternoon and Monday night. The timer has been set for those two particular days. During that time the EBS (Emergency Broadcast System) will be activated. President Trump will send out a message, “My fellow Americans, The Storm is Upon us.”

“There will be seven presidential text messages sent from him via Air Force One following the message “The Storm is Upon Us.” That puts us under full global martial law.

“Via the EBS and on authorized devices, there will be an eight hour video played three times a day for ten days straight. They contain video confessions of high profile elite individuals being exposed for their Crimes Against Humanity at their military tribunals.

“While the movie is being played, 500,000 plus people would be taken down worldwide. This repeating movie will be extremely painful for most of us because it involved people we thought we could trust committing unthinkable crimes.

“We understand that no one will be allowed to leave their residence until completion.

“During this moment in history we will transition to GESARA/NESARA. There will be a full rewiring of planet earth. It is our understanding that media and internet will be shut down.

“This is not a transition from President Trump to [B]iden. It is a transition that President Trump in conjunction with the military have composed restoring things back to We The People. Now you know why General Flynn was pardoned (key asset to this entire process).

“We are preparing for a brand new future where humanity is free from the constraints of former powers. There will finally be a world free of division amongst the people.

“Everyone must understand this is serious so please have enough food, water, batteries and necessities for the duration of Ten Days of Darkness."

For years the above has been planned to take down what was known as the Cabal – a Sat*an worshipping, chi*ld sac*rifice group of global and political elites who were trying to establish a New World Order – with the beginnings of their takeover being the 2020 Presidential Election.

President Trump and Patriots of the Alliance to the rescue.

Further reading
https://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com/2021/01/mass-media-internet-to-go-offline-ebs.html

Viking

HOPEIUM. .... ???? signed JADED

[Eric J (Viking)]

Mass Media, Internet to go Offline, EBS Activated while US Republic Restored on Monday

By Judy Byington as reported in Before It’s News: https://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2021/01/mass-media-internet-to-go-offline-ebs-activated-while-us-republic-restored-on-monday-3223516.html

On Mon. 18 Jan. the US Republic would be restored to the original Constitution and return power to The People. To make that happen, the Mass Media and Internet would go offline while the Emergency Broadcast System was activated with messages from President Trump.

On Sunday 17 Jan the below was sent from a high up US Military Intel Contact:

“According to the latest schedule everything will be exposed sometime between Sunday afternoon and Monday night. The timer has been set for those two particular days. During that time the EBS (Emergency Broadcast System) will be activated. President Trump will send out a message, “My fellow Americans, The Storm is Upon us.”

“There will be seven presidential text messages sent from him via Air Force One following the message “The Storm is Upon Us.” That puts us under full global martial law.

“Via the EBS and on authorized devices, there will be an eight hour video played three times a day for ten days straight. They contain video confessions of high profile elite individuals being exposed for their Crimes Against Humanity at their military tribunals.

“While the movie is being played, 500,000 plus people would be taken down worldwide. This repeating movie will be extremely painful for most of us because it involved people we thought we could trust committing unthinkable crimes.

“We understand that no one will be allowed to leave their residence until completion.

“During this moment in history we will transition to GESARA/NESARA. There will be a full rewiring of planet earth. It is our understanding that media and internet will be shut down.

“This is not a transition from President Trump to [B]iden. It is a transition that President Trump in conjunction with the military have composed restoring things back to We The People. Now you know why General Flynn was pardoned (key asset to this entire process).

“We are preparing for a brand new future where humanity is free from the constraints of former powers. There will finally be a world free of division amongst the people.

“Everyone must understand this is serious so please have enough food, water, batteries and necessities for the duration of Ten Days of Darkness."

For years the above has been planned to take down what was known as the Cabal – a Sat*an worshipping, chi*ld sac*rifice group of global and political elites who were trying to establish a New World Order – with the beginnings of their takeover being the 2020 Presidential Election.

President Trump and Patriots of the Alliance to the rescue.

Further reading
https://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com/2021/01/mass-media-internet-to-go-offline-ebs.html

Viking

HOPEIUM. .... ???? signed JADED

Looking that way, but we can live in ...

Viking'

[ExomatrixTV]

Joe Biden & Co Fear National Guard Coup Attempt:

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Warning! KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN THIS WEEK BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING A BIG MOVE....

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Troops and Armored Vehicles Stationed All Around The Capitol:

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[ExomatrixTV]

2021 JAN 17 Scott McKay; Military Ops DO NOT INTERFERE, Stand down; let Soldiers Deliver the Pain:

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back-up video:

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[alh02]

I don't know about you guys, but Trump seems pretty confident to me.

Check out the video linked below.

Trump: "Do you guys know what this represents?"
Trump: "Maybe it's the calm before the storm."
Unidentified woman involved in the group photo: "What storm Mr President?"
Trump: "You'll see..."

https://t.me/PioyPioyPioyTwitter_BACKUP/458

[atman]

I don't know about you guys, but Trump seems pretty confident to me.

Check out the video linked below.

Trump: "Do you guys know what this represents?"
Trump: "Maybe it's the calm before the storm?"
Unidentified woman involved in the group photo shoot: "What storm Mr President?"
Trump: "You'll see..."

https://t.me/PioyPioyPioyTwitter_BACKUP/458

That video, unfortunately, was shot more than 3 years ago (https://www.gq.com/story/trump-storm-is-coming) (early October 2017).

[Strat]

Of course I mean well, just that when it comes to this overall subject, I happen to see things much differently than the rest of the forum.

My mama always told me never be afraid to speak my mind, even if it's unpopular. :flower:

My thoughts on all of this are much in line with yours. I'm doubtful anything will happen in the next couple days. There's a slim possibility I suppose, and I will admit to being wrong

Ditto, 100% agreed. Darwin may show himself to some extent but I doubt anything major will happen, at least nothing more than what we've seen in 2020.

[alh02]

That video, unfortunately, was shot more than 3 years ago (https://www.gq.com/story/trump-storm-is-coming) (early October 2017).

Ok thanks, I'll take your word for it.
Out of interest though, how did you find that out?
I searched for other versions of that video before I posted it and couldn't find anything.

[onevoice]

That video, unfortunately, was shot more than 3 years ago (https://www.gq.com/story/trump-storm-is-coming) (early October 2017).

Ok thanks, I'll take your word for it.
Out of interest though, how did you find that out?
I searched for other versions of that video before I posted it and couldn't find anything.

Here is one of the original video that referenced it, the relevant part start 17 seconds into the embedded video:
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[atman]

That video, unfortunately, was shot more than 3 years ago (https://www.gq.com/story/trump-storm-is-coming) (early October 2017).

Ok thanks, I'll take your word for it.
Out of interest though, how did you find that out?
I searched for other versions of that video before I posted it and couldn't find anything.

I remembered seeing it years ago and I then found an article (linked in my reply) mentioning the "storm is coming" part.

[onawah]

MARIA ZACK – HOW OBAMA, MI6, CIA AND THE EU STOLE THE US ELECTION WITH ITALIAN MILITARY SATELLITES
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/maria-zack-how-obama-mi6-cia-and-the-eu-stole-the-us-election-with-italian-military-satellites/

This appears to be an important story which should not go unnoticed, and there is an audio accompanying the article which hopefully the Mods can embed.


From today's Alexandra Bruce's posting (Forbiddenknowledgetv - https://t.me/FKTVupdates

Maria Zack, who broke the story about the Leonardo Italian military satellites being used to help steal the 2020 US Election appears with John Chambers and Susan Bradford on Making Sense of the Madness with the Earth-shattering details that led to a major crisis in the Italian government and also likely caused the major social media sites to de-platform President Trump and tens of thousands of his supporters, to slow the spread of this story before the January 20th Inauguration.

Susan Bradford's article, below has additional details.
Meanwhile, CIA Director Gina Haspel has not appeared at her office in Langley, Virginia and has not been seen since early November. It is not know if she is dead or in Witness Protection.

The Italian, German, Dutch and Estonian governments are all simultaneously on the verge of collapse at the moment.
Washington, DC has been transformed into a gigantic TSA screening area. All cars attempting to leave the city are being stopped and passengers are being asked for ID. There are reports of a "List". If you're on the list, you cannot leave town.

I was surprised to see the post from astrophysicist, Paul LaViolette in my Telegram feed:

January 15, 2021

The deep state take down is coming very soon to planet earth.
Everything may be down except SOME SPECIFIC TYPES OF IP
traffic. No internet, no phones cell or landlines, no media nothing on radio or tv.

Emergency messages only and I am not sure how they will come in from the US GOV.

While you still can, get the SIGNAL APP before January 19th.

Neocon Traitors Staged Election Upset
by Susan Bradford

January 15, 2021

Circumstances surrounding allegations of Italy's involvement in switching votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election reveal that Trump was betrayed by allies closest to him and that we are in trouble as a nation. The traitors who allegedly rigged the election were globalists and war mongers frustrated with President Trump's refusal to accommodate neoconservative plans for regime change in Iran.

Barack Obama started the ball rolling in 2015 with the Joint Comprehensive Plan for Action in which a slush fund was set aside for Iran as compensation for international sanctions it had endured over its nuclear development program. Iran promised that the program would have peaceful applications and agreed to release American prisoners in exchange for the money.

The following year Obama met with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi to discuss the challenges they respectively faced with regards to the public's rejection of globalism. During this meeting plans were set in motion to derail the prospective Trump Administration, with $400 million set aside from the $1.7 billion designated for Iran to be used to flip votes from Trump to Biden in the 2020 presidential election. The plan was to prevent Trump from serving a second term, with $400 million routed through the Vatican for this purpose.

According to Nations in Action, a government oversight group, the plan was executed by Stefano Serafini, a foreign service officer of 20 years; and Claudio Graziano, the Chair of the European Union Military Committee and member of the Board of Leonardo SpA, an Italian multinational specializing in aerospace, defense, and security.

In witness testimony, Arturo D'Elia, the former head of the IT Department at Leonardo SpA, confirmed that votes were flipped from Trump to Biden in key states. In some cases, he said, data was altered to represent more than the total number of voters registered. D'Elia said that he received his instructions from American employees working at the U.S. Embassy in Rome and that he can reveal the names of all the individuals and entities involved. He also holds in his possession a backup drive containing the original data and data switched; Italian intelligence officers reportedly have intercepts, phone calls, and pictures of the CIA agents involved.

According to testimony from Italy, Leonardo SpA's computer systems and military satellites switched the votes through Dominion servers. The data was then allegedly transferred from Pescara to Frankfurt, Germany via satellite, accounting for a dramatic CIA raid and firefight in Frankfurt to destroy the evidence of election fraud.

As a defense contractor, Leonardo partners with Israeli firms, like Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. Listed as Rafael's lobbyist on record is a former Chief of Staff to Sen Joe Lieberman, a leading neoconservative hawk. The CEO of Leonardo is William Lynn III, Undersecretary of Defense for the Clinton Administration and lobbyist for Raytheon.

Once the story of election tampering broke in the United States, social media platforms immediately purged patriot accounts to block circulation of the story. Remarkably, Twitter even suspended Donald Trump's own account, preventing the President from sharing information that would derail Biden's attempt to steal the election, expose alleged treason, and implicate high profile individuals.

For decades now, neoconservatives have sought regime change in Iran through military strikes, with the country designated as part of an “axis of evil” to justify war. President Donald Trump campaigned in 2016 to end wars that were not in the national interest and which destroyed lives and wasted precious resources.

Many of his closest advisers were not so inclined, including Rudy Giuliani and Newt Gingrich. In 2018, Giuliani, an advisor and attorney for Trump, was keynote speaker at a rally for the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), a group that seeks regime change in Iran. Throughout his speech, Giuliani compared Iranian mullahs to the mafia and called for regime change in this foreign country. He also delivered a letter on behalf of a bipartisan coalition of U.S. politicians and officials, including Sen. Joe Lieberman. Newt Gingrich was in attendance.

It appears that Giuliani and Gingrich took matters into their own hands after Trump doggedly refused to kowtow to neoconservative demands.

According to reports, the federal government awarded nearly $1 billion in contracts to Leonardo SpA last year. This is not a large amount considering that the company invested $950 million to lobby the federal government that year. Without war, the defense contractors weren't making money.

Remarkably, several of Leonardo SpA's lobbyists worked for Trump – including, for example, Dan McFaul, who served on Trump's 2016 Transition Team, a role that allowed him to recommend appointments to the Trump Administration. McFaul's employer, Ballard Partners, was founded by Brian Ballard, Trump's lobbyist in Florida. According to The Tampa Bay Times, Ballard even raised $16 million for Trump.

However, Trump was not Ballard's preferred candidate – he favored Jeb Bush as heir apparent. Once Trump became the Republican presidential nominee, Ballard supported Trump by default, after having raised money for Sen. John McCain and Sen. Mitt Romney, who publicly disparaged Trump.

The firm has an office in Tel Aviv, Israel; its representative there is Congressman Robert Wexler, a member of Obama's re-election Steering Committee who crafted Obama's policies toward Israel for the Democratic National Convention.

A few months before the 2020 presidential election, Wexler was featured in an article entitled “Biden is the most pro-Israel nominee ever.” He also penned an article for The Sun Sentinel stating that he supported Obama's deal with Iran to curtail its nuclear program. In contrast, Trump characterized the agreement as “the worst deal ever.”

Wexler is President of the Washington-based S. Daniel Abraham Center for Middle East Peace. Recently the organization asked: “Is Peace Still Possible?” For neoconservatives, the answer is no.
In an article for the Jerusalem Post that was published in August of 2019, Wexler wrote that the United States should “reaffirm our commitment to confront Iranian aggression and include Iran's support for terrorism in future negotiations.” In other words, Wexler has endorsed the hawkish neoconservative position against Iran. Ballard also employs Courtney Whitney, a Partner with the pro-Biden Super PAC, Priorities USA.

A dedicated globalist, Obama tried to prevent Trump from becoming President. He then frustrated Trump's ability to govern once elected, even going so far as to spy on the presidential campaign and to spur impeachment hearings against Trump over false claims that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. Obama then unleashed waves of his community organizers who threatened to burn down cities if Trump got re-elected.

Biden appears to be making preparations for war in line with neoconservative plans. As the Washington Examiner reported this week, Biden tapped William Burns for CIA Director. Burns led a secretive back channel with the Iranian regime prior to Obama's deal with Iran. Burns has reportedly accused Iran of exporting instability across the Middle East.

However, Iran is not the country exporting instability and terrorism around the world nor is it interfering in the elections of other countries. It would not even be in this country's interests to become aggressive, lest it invite military retaliation against itself, which would amount to suicide for this country.

Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu has claimed that Israel has obtained thousands of Iranian secret nuclear files that show new and conclusive proof of the secret nuclear weapons program that Iran has been hiding for years. In response to these revelations, Trump withdrew from Obama's nuclear deal but never took the bait to strike Iran.

Haaretz is already reporting that Iran announced that it is escalating its nuclear program in what was called “a step-by-step guide to triggering a nuclear crisis.”

The election was apparently rigged by Trump insiders working in collusion with Obama to offset a second Trump term. Based upon witness testimony, the orders for election tampering came from employees at the U.S. Embassy in Rome. The Ambassador would therefore have been briefed, and potentially complicit in the fraud.

The U.S. Ambassador to Italy is Lewis Eisenberg, who was McCain's national finance co-chair and Rudy Giuliani's friend. Eisenberg was Chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey during the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center, which the Port Authority operated. While serving on the Bush-Cheney Presidential Transition Team, Eisenberg recommended personnel for the Bush Administration that brought us the Patriotic Act, which stripped Americans of their civil liberties in the name of “fighting terrorism” – legislation authored by none other than Biden himself.

On the recommendation of former RNC Chair Reince Priebus, who served briefly as White House Chief of Staff under Trump until he was fired, Eisenberg was appointed fundraiser for Trump. While Eisenberg oversaw the U.S. Embassy in Rome, the U.S. Embassy at the Vatican was managed by Newt Gingrich's wife, Callista, whom Trump appointed Ambassador to the Vatican. Newt has been residing at the Vatican with Callista while under coronavirus quarantine. As stated, the money diverted from the Iran deal to rig the election against Trump was laundered through the Vatican, where Newt Gingrich's wife happens to be Ambassador.

As the Biden's inauguration approaches, tensions have increased with Iran. U.S. Central Command is monitoring the situation. Multiple B-52 bombers have flown missions over international waters near Iran after Trump ordered the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier to turn around and remain in the Persian Gulf.

Meanwhile, Guiliani has led a series of rather embarrassing, ill fated lawsuits in a comedic, if incompetent, effort to contest the election, as if attempting to sabotage Trump's chances intentionally. One Georgia election official even accused Giuliani of presenting “deceptively edited” video as evidence.

Worse, Giuliani's incendiary rhetoric provided an excuse for Social Media platforms to suspend Trump's accounts. At the Capitol Hill rally on January 6th in which Trump supporters peacefully convened to support their President during the certification of electoral votes, Giuliani delivered a speech in which he called for “trial by combat” as if intending to incite violence.

The violence that ensued provided the pretext Social Media platforms needed to censor patriots at a time when allegations of election tampering were circulating.

Giuliani was even photographed with one of the actors who stormed Congress – the protester with body paint, who dressed as a shaman and wore a Viking-type head dress and animal pelts. The 32-year-old man, identified as Jake Angeli, was accused of inciting violence while identifying himself as as Trump-supporting patriot.

Once the plan had been executed in Italy, Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu immediately endorsed Biden for President even though Trump was still contesting the election. Netanyahu even removed a photo of himself with Trump from his Twitter banner as if to signal that he was fully on board with an incoming Biden Administration.

At this point, no real effort is being made to contest the election in which witnesses have admitted under oath to their participation in election tampering and fraud. Giving hint to Trump's defeat, La Verita, an Italian newspaper that broke the original story concerning Italy's role in the election fraud, reported under a picture of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that an indictment was presented and that Trump would become a private citizen on January 20, Inauguration Day, with opponents seeking to ban him from ever returning to public office in violation of constitutional norms.

Trump's legacy has been to expose corruption in high places and to reveal fake news for what it is. He may also just have revealed the extent to which which Israel controls the American political system. If this is the case, we have to ask whether our fate is to move towards more democracy or less and whether Israel will abide by the law and agreements arranged to restore sovereignty to the United States and integrity to its institutions or whether it will try to extinguish freedom and democracy forever.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Update from Operation disclosure...

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of Tues. 19 Jan. 2021

Compiled Tues. 19 Jan. 2020 12:01 am EST by Judy Byington, MSW, LCSW, Therapist ret, Journalist, Author, “Twenty Two Faces: inside the extraordinary life of Jenny Hill and her twenty two multiple personalities.”

Source: Dinar Chronicles

Important Emergency Alert Information
https://rumble.com/vcxaw5-emergency-alert-information.html

“How to Steal an Election”
https://www.simonparkes.org/blog

Judy Note:

Over last weekend the Military raided CIA Headquarters in Langley Va. A military general who was part of the team said they came away with a ton of evidence. Well known politicians were guilty of embezzlement, identity fraud, pedo*philia, assassination plots and mur*ders.

Thousands of Chinese troops were sitting on both the Mexican and Canadian border, plus their ships were in international waters on both the East and West coasts. It was said that if B*iden were inaugurated President they would invade and take over the country.

Also over last weekend an intercepted message from the Chinese Communist Party showed a plan to assassinate the Pentagon Generals. As a result and coupled with the evidence from the CIA raid, the Pentagon has withdrawn their support of the CIA and FBI and President Trump has declared Martial Law.

On Mon. 18 Jan. the US Capitol was put on lockdown and DNI Ratcliffe dropped bombshell report alleging China interfered in 2020 Election,

Tues. 19 Jan. was National Popcorn Day and would likely be declared Value Day. On that Tues. 19 Jan. Liquidity was expected to be released with us in the Internet Group Tier 4B receiving links to set appointments for our exchanges/ redemption.

Also on that Tues, POTUS would reveal what he would do about the govt. transition to the restored Republic and the Presidential Inauguration the next day on Wed. 20 Jan.

On Wed. 20 Jan. Inauguration Day the Emergency Broadcast System would be activated The FCC were telling TV stations that their programming would be preempted from 8am EST for up to 72 hours. If they didn’t comply, they would be off the air. On that first broadcast President Trump would likely say, “The Storm is Upon Us.”

The Internet was set to go offline, with Martial Law instigated not only in the US, but across the globe as the world transitioned to NESARA/ GESARA and a Global Currency Reset.

Ten Days of Darkness would begin as eight hour videos would be broadcast three times a day for ten days straight. The videos contained Military Tribunals filled with confessions of high profile elite individuals exposed for their Crimes Against Humanity.

Mass Arrests of over 500,000 individuals would happen worldwide.

For security reasons no one would be allowed to leave their residence, so it was advised to have enough food, water, batteries and necessities for the duration of Ten Days of Darkness.

Full link with short videos...

https://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com/2021/01/restored-republic-via-gcr-as-of-jan-19.html

Viking

[TargeT]

Judy Note:

Over last weekend the Military raided CIA Headquarters in Langley Va.

nope, I'm very close to that area, nothing happened.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Not sure how recent this one is, but...

A Very Special Message From Your President! (Video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGO3uxsbJck

Viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

What do you guys think of this... Avalonian detectives?

If it’s real... WOW!

Either this video of Obama is a deepfake…or he’s is deep sh*t!

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=48553

Viking

[greybeard]

What do you guys think of this... Avalonian detectives?

If it’s real... WOW!

Either this video of Obama is a deepfake…or he’s is deep sh*t!

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=48553

Viking

It could be anyone Viking.
However, Obama, I have not seen him on any video praising Biden on his "win" or the Clintons making appearances.
I would have thought they would have been full of it and centre stage.
Strange days.
Think this is important
Lin Wood on the phone
Chris
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112845-2020-Presidential-Election--and-its-Aftermath&p=1405082&viewfull=1#post1405082

[One]

What do you guys think of this... Avalonian detectives?

If it’s real... WOW!

Either this video of Obama is a deepfake…or he’s is deep sh*t!

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=48553

Viking

I think from comments I have seen on vid before that it was him visiting mandela's cell or something.

[Eric J (Viking)]

45871

Bumped into this on my travels...

Viking

[Olam]

45871

Bumped into this on my travels...

Viking

Fog of war man...
We can't believe anything at this point.
Unless your trusted brother/sister/ good cousin is texting you directly from the front, the rest is war propaganda.
Sorry for that

[ramus]

Well it won't be long ... Robert David Steele .... Simon Parkes .... and all the so called

insiders, will either be heroes or toast ... this beats waiting for NIBIRU ... I'm calling

the guys that are in the caves in Ozarks and tell them the news about the

election. lol:clapping:

[Olam]

Once a while, I get into spring cleaning mode.
It can be actual deep cleaning, or it can be spiritual.
If nothing happens this week and lord Biden has free will to play,
Short of shaving my head, I will be going thru a major reset at many levels.
I won't be able to sustain the daily frustrations we encounter in our research of what is.
It will also clear many saved bookmarks and will change my daily habits.
There is no way I can continue like this if I am going to be frustrated daily with what I read on the internet.
Something has to change, if it can't be the world I'm in, then I will change myself.

[Gracy]

Well it won't be long ... Robert David Steele .... Simon Parkes .... and all the so called

insiders, will either be heroes or toast ...

Once they are shown to be toast, I’m afraid it still won’t be all that much of a clear cut ending. I predict it will just keep going on and on but with yet another shift in narrative. The current storyline will blend seamlessly into the next similar to day time soaps.

Like maybe allowing Biden to be sworn in is all another brilliant 5D chess move, the white hat patriots now have China and deep state cornered exactly where they wanted them, and the trap is ready to spring as panic really sets in (yet again).

Something along those lines.

[The Moss Trooper]

Once a while, I get into spring cleaning mode.
It can be actual deep cleaning, or it can be spiritual.
If nothing happens this week and lord Biden has free will to play,
Short of shaving my head, I will be going thru a major reset at many levels.
I won't be able to sustain the daily frustrations we encounter in our research of what is.
It will also clear many saved bookmarks and will change my daily habits.
There is no way I can continue like this if I am going to be frustrated daily with what I read on the internet.
Something has to change, if it can't be the world I'm in, then I will change myself.

Here, here.......... Well said and absolutely mirrors my current thinking.

Either I awake tomorrow morning and "The Plan" has come to pass and bore fruit, or I'm outta here.......... Back to doing what I used to, making real changes where able. F*ck all this sitting around being told to "trust the plan".

I hope I'm wrong. I pray to the Universe that I am wrong, with every atom that I am composed of, please, let me be incorrect in my thinking.

But....................


Goodnight & God-bless.

[Olam]

I can't tell anyone what to do, but here is my plan if nothing changes soon.
I have already purged myself from big tech a while ago.
No more Instagram, Facebook, Messenger,Twitter, all gone.
I will talk to my neighbours, local people, develop my local tribe of liked minded people.
Will do real tangible things like garden, take more care of my body, play music with some friends, build a small community.
I have not had a tv for 15 years so the next step is to walk away from the computer more often.
I'm Canadian so for a short while until biden can reach and affect me in more ways than I can now imagine, I can afford to "walk away"..
In other words, and I mean this for everyone here, if you play the game, you loose.
If you don't play the game, they have to work harder to have you loose.
I guess it's about living my life as much as I can in the present moment, surrounded by my tribe, instead of trusting some futur plan that never was.
Something like that..

[Eric J (Viking)]

Once a while, I get into spring cleaning mode.
It can be actual deep cleaning, or it can be spiritual.
If nothing happens this week and lord Biden has free will to play,
Short of shaving my head, I will be going thru a major reset at many levels.
I won't be able to sustain the daily frustrations we encounter in our research of what is.
It will also clear many saved bookmarks and will change my daily habits.
There is no way I can continue like this if I am going to be frustrated daily with what I read on the internet.
Something has to change, if it can't be the world I'm in, then I will change myself.

Here, here.......... Well said and absolutely mirrors my current thinking.

Either I awake tomorrow morning and "The Plan" has come to pass and bore fruit, or I'm outta here.......... Back to doing what I used to, making real changes where able. F*ck all this sitting around being told to "trust the plan".

I hope I'm wrong. I pray to the Universe that I am wrong, with every atom that I am composed of, please, let me be incorrect in my thinking.

But....................


Goodnight & God-bless.

Yes I’m with both of you...I could spend my time doing more productive stuff, and this will be confirmed if nothing happens tomorrow.

All I can say is these bloody dominoes must be stuck with super glue.

Viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Update here Sotn

http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-19-at-10.58.39-AM.png

http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-19-at-10.58.39-AM.png

Trump will be sworn in as the 19th President of the American Republic, not the 45th President of the US Corporation. (Video)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TVoLVrDIH8

Viking

[The Moss Trooper]

I can't tell anyone what to do, but here is my plan if nothing changes soon.
I have already purged myself from big tech a while ago.
No more Instagram, Facebook, Messenger,Twitter, all gone.
I will talk to my neighbours, local people, develop my local tribe of liked minded people.
Will do real tangible things like garden, take more care of my body, play music with some friends, build a small community.
I have not had a tv for 15 years so the next step is to walk away from the computer more often.
I'm Canadian so for a short while until biden can reach and affect me in more ways than I can now imagine, I can afford to "walk away"..
In other words, and I mean this for everyone here, if you play the game, you loose.
If you don't play the game, they have to work harder to have you loose.
I guess it's about living my life as much as I can in the present moment, surrounded by my tribe, instead of trusting some futur plan that never was.
Something like that..

Olam, the truest sentiment I've read for a while.

I wish I were close to you, we'd be a tribe of 2 already. I am very, very similar to you.......... Zero big-tech platform interaction, zero tv, zero smart-phone, just zero, zero, zero, where able.

I offer you the best of British luck and my hand.

[Olam]

I can't tell anyone what to do, but here is my plan if nothing changes soon.
I have already purged myself from big tech a while ago.
No more Instagram, Facebook, Messenger,Twitter, all gone.
I will talk to my neighbours, local people, develop my local tribe of liked minded people.
Will do real tangible things like garden, take more care of my body, play music with some friends, build a small community.
I have not had a tv for 15 years so the next step is to walk away from the computer more often.
I'm Canadian so for a short while until biden can reach and affect me in more ways than I can now imagine, I can afford to "walk away"..
In other words, and I mean this for everyone here, if you play the game, you loose.
If you don't play the game, they have to work harder to have you loose.
I guess it's about living my life as much as I can in the present moment, surrounded by my tribe, instead of trusting some futur plan that never was.
Something like that..

Olam, the truest sentiment I've read for a while.

I wish I were close to you, we'd be a tribe of 2 already. I am very, very similar to you.......... Zero big-tech platform interaction, zero tv, zero smart-phone, just zero, zero, zero, where able.

I offer you the best of British luck and my hand.

Thank you very much, I send many blessings to you and all others who are in your heart.

[Eric J (Viking)]

General Hytens last tweets...

http://stateofthenation.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Screen-Shot-2021-01-19-at-10.38.00-AM.png

Edit ...More here

https://t.me/s/GeneralHyten

January 18
General Hyten
Don’t give up hope. It may seem difficult to you, but we have everything under control.
102.6K views
17:15
General Hyten
Stay tuned for more information.
92.0K views
17:16
General Hyten
All stations are ready to go. Waiting on the decision of one man….
114.1K views
17:19
General Hyten
CASTLE_ROCK
105.0K views
17:24
General Hyten
Do not be afraid.
96.8K views
17:33
General Hyten
Biblical.
91.6K views
17:51
General Hyten
Have faith.
87.8K views
18:08
General Hyten
0:13
Nothing can stop what is coming.
130.3K views
18:22
General Hyten
108.8K views
19:41
General Hyten
This is just the beginning….
96.3K views
19:51
General Hyten
The best is yet to come!!
102.2K views
20:16
General Hyten
Emergency Broadcasting System.
53.3K views
02:15
January 19
General Hyten
Day 0.
53.1K views
02:16
General Hyten
The president is safe.
48.2K views
02:40
General Hyten
They all know what’s coming. [DS]
47.8K views
02:53
General Hyten
Get ready.
43.6K views
03:44
General Hyten
The whole world will hear it.
35.9K views
03:57

https://t.me/GeneralHyten/22

Source: 8kun Notables, Some of Hyten’s Last Tweets before Acct. Suspended

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https://abcu8.co/2021/01/19/some-of-hytens-last-tweets-before-acct-suspended/

Viking

[greybeard]

It always seems strange to see "Top Brass" tweeting.
His name came up as the one to watch in Simon Parkes podcast of today.
Anyway the post above from Viking is very positive -- lets hope it is 100% valid.
Chris

[Apulu]

Once a while, I get into spring cleaning mode.
It can be actual deep cleaning, or it can be spiritual.
If nothing happens this week and lord Biden has free will to play,
Short of shaving my head, I will be going thru a major reset at many levels.
I won't be able to sustain the daily frustrations we encounter in our research of what is.
It will also clear many saved bookmarks and will change my daily habits.
There is no way I can continue like this if I am going to be frustrated daily with what I read on the internet.
Something has to change, if it can't be the world I'm in, then I will change myself.

Here's to all of that.

I've been quite glued to what may or may not be happening since November 3rd. Things all seems rather unprecedented at the moment... but... the past two months have been a very effective distraction, seemingly, from me just doing what I need to do to stand up, get focused, and make my life the best I can make it. It really has. That's really where my undevided attention needs to be I feel.

Even if the practically unthinkable happens, and Trump is re-elected... perhaps once the ferver has calmed down (or perhaps before!) I think I need to turn my attention fully to where I feel it's supposed to be again...

[ramus]

Well it won't be long ... Robert David Steele .... Simon Parkes .... and all the so called

insiders, will either be heroes or toast ...

Once they are shown to be toast, I’m afraid it still won’t be all that much of a clear cut ending. I predict it will just keep going on and on but with yet another shift in narrative. The current storyline will blend seamlessly into the next similar to day time soaps.

Like maybe allowing Biden to be sworn in is all another brilliant 5D chess move, the white hat patriots now have China and deep state cornered exactly where they wanted them, and the trap is ready to spring as panic really sets in (yet again).

Something along those lines.

I won't be listening ........I've had enough ..Niburu .... 2012 .end of the world,..Atticus

all the predictions that never came close to coming TRUE ....

What it has showed me is we need something to believe in....

I'm going to try escapism .. mentally and spiritually ... and drink more beer.

A fool on the hill watching the world go round.

[Olam]

It always seems strange to see "Top Brass" tweeting.
His name came up as the one to watch in Simon Parkes podcast of today.
Anyway the post above from Viking is very positive -- lets hope it is 100% valid.
Chris

I just joined the Telegram app and subscribed to Gen Hayten
Already sh!t is hitting the fan, a few minutes ago Telegram labeled the guy as a scam.
Then " The great awakening" has been crashing the party and posting on that channel with the usual rhetoric..
So again.....not something to be trusted...
Compared to Gen Flynn's channel who does not seem to be infiltrated, looks and feels very different.

[Eric J (Viking)]

George Eaton, a big poster on RMN just posted this...I hope you’re right George.

********

A Note From My Daughter Sparked My Response On What Will Happen Wednesday

Posted By: GeorgeEaton
Date: Tuesday, 19-Jan-2021 14:37:34
www.rumormill.news/163917

I received this email from my daughter today:

I can't pull myself away from the "chatter"... I am trying not to get scared. I know my husband and relatives all feel the same. The uncertainty is thick with everyone. Yet, there is no physical action any of us can take at this moment. All I know to do is keep a positive outlook and pray for God's will to be done! I'm wondering and I'm sure most people out there are wondering: "Should I go to work on Wednesday? Should I allow my kids to go to school?"
I've been praying for "Truth" for some time now (years). I believe much of the truth is out there. I must ask for discernment and Peace in my heart about the information available. To date, we have not seen justice applied. "Justice" will be hard to watch and brutal. For Truth and Freedom to reign in our country I must now pray for "Justice"!
C

Here is my response:

All of us are in a waiting pattern now, so don't feel alone in this confusing time. It will all come to a head early in the day on Wednesday. All we need to do is stay at home and not be involved in any protests. The Trump team and thousands of soldiers have it all in hand, and the duty rests on their shoulders now.
There will be numerous emergency broadcasts during the day, and for days afterward as Trump lays out the evidence they have gathered of the treasonous takeover of our nation by the far left and communist agitators. The news media will be shut down for many days, and the only main news we'll get will come from the Whitehouse, and alternative media - if and when the internet is back online.
During this time on Wednesday Trump will be sworn in for a second term. It will be a big event in history as Trump takes command of the political system which is part of his oath of office and duty to the Constitution and the defense of the nation.
Hundreds of arrests will be made by the military of those that have committed treason. After a few days the path forward will become more clear. While this is happening the bad actors, and the Marxist followers like BLM and Antifa will start uprisings in the cities and urban areas. They will be violent and repeat the burnings and vandalism they did last Summer. They may even attack innocent people in neighborhoods, and pull people from cars randomly as their hatred spills over in American cities. This is another reason we need to stay home as the military and law enforcement deal with this threat.
We can get through this, all we have to do is wait it out until the danger subsides.


Afterwards a new era will begin in our nation and we'll recover from the pandemic, jobs will open up and then we'll face a new future based on Constitutional liberty. Love, Dad (George Eaton)

Viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Is this really her farewell speech?

First Lady Melania Trump Farewell Message

Rumble — Melania Trump, America's BEST and FINEST First Lady to EVER grace the White House, leaves us with a DEPARTING message.

January 18, 2021

🇺🇸🇺🇸❤MELANIA TRUMP❤🇺🇸🇺🇸

https://rumble.com/embed/vadfg9/?pub=4


https://rumble.com/embed/vadfg9/?pub=4

Viking

[ExomatrixTV]

10222005184030087


source (https://www.facebook.com/tommy.sharp.98/videos/10222005184030087/)

[TomKat]

It's all over, Trump gave his farewell speech.

[One]

It's all over, Trump gave his farewell speech.

Nothing to see here, just saying goodbye to the USA corp. No need to celebrate yet tomkat.

[Gracy]

Here is my response:

All of us are in a waiting pattern now, so don't feel alone in this confusing time. It will all come to a head early in the day on Wednesday. All we need to do is stay at home and not be involved in any protests. The Trump team and thousands of soldiers have it all in hand, and the duty rests on their shoulders now.
There will be numerous emergency broadcasts during the day, and for days afterward as Trump lays out the evidence they have gathered of the treasonous takeover of our nation by the far left and communist agitators. The news media will be shut down for many days, and the only main news we'll get will come from the Whitehouse, and alternative media - if and when the internet is back online.
During this time on Wednesday Trump will be sworn in for a second term. It will be a big event in history as Trump takes command of the political system which is part of his oath of office and duty to the Constitution and the defense of the nation.
Hundreds of arrests will be made by the military of those that have committed treason. After a few days the path forward will become more clear. While this is happening the bad actors, and the Marxist followers like BLM and Antifa will start uprisings in the cities and urban areas. They will be violent and repeat the burnings and vandalism they did last Summer. They may even attack innocent people in neighborhoods, and pull people from cars randomly as their hatred spills over in American cities. This is another reason we need to stay home as the military and law enforcement deal with this threat.
We can get through this, all we have to do is wait it out until the danger subsides.


Afterwards a new era will begin in our nation and we'll recover from the pandemic, jobs will open up and then we'll face a new future based on Constitutional liberty. Love, Dad (George Eaton)
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=163917

I hate to beat a dead horse, but it's important for when we try and move forward from this.

I don't know who George Eaton is, never heard of him, but when these events fail to materialize tomorrow (January 20), will he still manage to maintain any semblance of credibility along with the rest in continuously pumping this nonsense out there?

The reputation of this wonderful forum Bill has provided may well hang in the balance. Let's please think long and hard about it...

[ExomatrixTV]

Dobbs: 25,000 National Guard in the Capitol to protect a 'Virtual' inauguration:

MMNLry2MWp8


ΤRUMΡ CREATING Α ΜΙLΙTΑRY ΤΑKE OVER?! MORE ΑRTΙLLERΥ, 30Κ ΤRΟΟPS & ΒΙO/ΝUCLΕΑR TEAMS!(ALL REVEALED):

SB1iYHjwyoM

[TargeT]

?

The reputation of this wonderful forum Bill has provided may well hang in the balance. Let's please think long and hard about it...

That's more than a bit hyperbolic

[Savannah]

Here is my response:

All of us are in a waiting pattern now, so don't feel alone in this confusing time. It will all come to a head early in the day on Wednesday. All we need to do is stay at home and not be involved in any protests. The Trump team and thousands of soldiers have it all in hand, and the duty rests on their shoulders now.
There will be numerous emergency broadcasts during the day, and for days afterward as Trump lays out the evidence they have gathered of the treasonous takeover of our nation by the far left and communist agitators. The news media will be shut down for many days, and the only main news we'll get will come from the Whitehouse, and alternative media - if and when the internet is back online.
During this time on Wednesday Trump will be sworn in for a second term. It will be a big event in history as Trump takes command of the political system which is part of his oath of office and duty to the Constitution and the defense of the nation.
Hundreds of arrests will be made by the military of those that have committed treason. After a few days the path forward will become more clear. While this is happening the bad actors, and the Marxist followers like BLM and Antifa will start uprisings in the cities and urban areas. They will be violent and repeat the burnings and vandalism they did last Summer. They may even attack innocent people in neighborhoods, and pull people from cars randomly as their hatred spills over in American cities. This is another reason we need to stay home as the military and law enforcement deal with this threat.
We can get through this, all we have to do is wait it out until the danger subsides.


Afterwards a new era will begin in our nation and we'll recover from the pandemic, jobs will open up and then we'll face a new future based on Constitutional liberty. Love, Dad (George Eaton)
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=163917

I hate to beat a dead horse, but it's important for when we try and move forward from this.

I don't know who George Eaton is, never heard of him, but when these events fail to materialize tomorrow (January 20), will he still manage to maintain any semblance of credibility along with the rest in continuously pumping this nonsense out there?

The reputation of this wonderful forum Bill has provided may well hang in the balance. Let's please think long and hard about it...

No one knows what will happen. People are just trying to keep people posted. Gracy I find your comments to be so uncaring and often down right rude. The forum is to provide information and exchange. You’re basically insinuating that we should not provied information without proof. That’s censorship and laughable on a conspiracy forum. You beat your dead horse often and long. How dare you accuse anyone here of brining Avalon down. I cringe when you post. Granted I take responsibly for my own feelings but more than once I have wanted to leave this forum because of you, but I would not give you the satisfaction.

[DeDukshyn]

 
To be fair, (Re: the sentiment in the last few posts), there is so much garbage floating around alternative news and conspiracy sites right now, its making the Great Pacific Garbage Patch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch) look like a good place to go for a swim.

I'm trying to keep up on potential real threats, and serious world events, and I am finding lately Avalon a difficult place to stay up to date on these things. Aside from a few threads, there just seems to be a lot of posting of anything that anyone might write about any sensational topic. Its starting to look like a "Before its News" extravaganza in here ....

My two cents on the topic. Keep in mind there are a few good threads here that I'm keeping tabs on but even those are starting to get contaminated. I understand that everyone is a bit nervous, and seems like something is going on, and we all want our next fix of fear and hopium, but I think, especially in these times, more discernment is needed, or more clarity about content given.

For example, regarding clarity of content, if someone insists on posting some far out news from a far out source - give a personal commentary on it. Do you stand behind the info given? Did you it post because you really feel it was a worthwhile consideration? Is it a favourite topic / author of yours? Did you just want to post it because you thought maybe someone else might find it interesting even if you don't believe it to be true? What's in the video you want to post? Etc. Etc ... this accomplishes two things - makes one think a bit before posting on whether the reasoning seems sound enough, and two, helps people discern how to evaluate, and why it was posted.

I like to think that Avalon is a few notches above a lot of the conspiracy forums out there ...

[Savannah]

If you really want to be fair you can look back and see that the only threads Gracey goes after are those who support Trump or Q. The issues you bring up can be said for ever thread but strangely it only seems to come up on political threads. Given Bill's previous shadow banning of Q and if Gracy's comments here are a reflection of Bill's, then I will gladly leave Avalon. I left for year in response to the shadow banning. I will not contribute to a forum of that nature. Perhaps this needs to come to a head and a poll taken if Bill wants these political threads on Avalon to stop.

[Strat]

I don't know who George Eaton is, never heard of him, but when these events fail to materialize tomorrow (January 20), will he still manage to maintain any semblance of credibility along with the rest in continuously pumping this nonsense out there?


Agreed.

I hate to repeat myself and I wish I had a better way to articulate my thoughts without stepping on toes but it is somewhat tiresome how predictions can be thrown around with impunity. This is why I often say, "How much do you want to bet?" If someone really believes their prediction then lets see them put down some collateral, in other words, put your money where your mouth is.

[DeDukshyn]

If you really want to be fair you can look back and see that the only threads Gracey goes after are those who support Trump or Q. The issues you bring up can be said for ever thread but strangely it only seems to come up on political threads. Given Bill's previous shadow banning of Q and if Gracy's comments here are a reflection of Bill's, then I will gladly leave Avalon. I left for year in response to the shadow banning. I will not contribute to a forum of that nature. Perhaps this needs to come to a head and a poll taken if Bill wants these political threads on Avalon to stop.

Well I wasn't really referring to what Gracy has been critical of specifically, I was just pointing that there is a lot of garbage and we could do with a bit more discernment. Some of what I have been seeing does roughly revolve around Trump stuff, and qanon related type stuff ... anyhow that's my point of view - but my response is more general - not targeting anyone or any topic. The issues can be seen in the vast amount of contradicting information and material.


More of a general observation that may include some of what Gracy is pointing out - but not that specifically.

[Kryztian]

 
To be fair, (Re: the sentiment in the last few posts), there is so much garbage floating around alternative news and conspiracy sites right now, its making the Great Pacific Garbage Patch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch) look like a good place to go for a swim.


I think swimming in the conspiracy world is going to be a lot like swimming in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch no matter what forum you are on, partially because the entities enacting conspiracies put out an ocean full of garbage ideas out there to cover their tracks. There is a heap of garbage to sort through if you are going to find the real pearls and it is a messy business. I would think of Project Avalon as a garbage processing center, and the stench of junk conspiracy is kind of unavoidable, but still we are providing a necessary service to truth and justice seekers.

And yes, right now, the garbage and toxicity is at an all time high. Remember to take a shower every night before going to bed and thank yourself for being part of the team that is trying to sort this all out!

[alh02]

I think swimming in the conspiracy world is going to be a lot like swimming in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch no matter what forum you are on, partially because the entities enacting conspiracies put out an ocean full of garbage ideas out there to cover their tracks. There is a heap of garbage to sort through if you are going to find the real pearls and it is a messy business. I would think of Project Avalon as a garbage processing center, and the stench of junk conspiracy is kind of unavoidable, but still we are providing a necessary service to truth and justice seekers.

And yes, right now, the garbage and toxicity is at an all time high. Remember to take a shower every night before going to bed and thank yourself for being part of the team that is trying to sort this all out!

Good analogy :thumbsup:

[DeDukshyn]

 
To be fair, (Re: the sentiment in the last few posts), there is so much garbage floating around alternative news and conspiracy sites right now, its making the Great Pacific Garbage Patch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch) look like a good place to go for a swim.


I think swimming in the conspiracy world is going to be a lot like swimming in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch no matter what forum you are on, partially because the entities enacting conspiracies put out an ocean full of garbage ideas out there to cover their tracks. There is a heap of garbage to sort through if you are going to find the real pearls and it is a messy business. I would think of Project Avalon as a garbage processing center, and the stench of junk conspiracy is kind of unavoidable, but still we are providing a necessary service to truth and justice seekers.

And yes, right now, the garbage and toxicity is at an all time high. Remember to take a shower every night before going to bed and thank yourself for being part of the team that is trying to sort this all out!

I agree. My point was more along the lines of let's do as much sorting as we can before we post, so that the forum users can find a half decent signal to noise ratio, rather than mass posting all the garbage for others to sort out - if you want a giant trash heap to sort through, Before it's News exists for that purpose - if Avalon turns into that, it becomes almost useless. There's a fair amount of stuff that is obviously garbage and being posted for the sake of posting something just because it appears to relate to a topic, it would seem.

But again, as I mentioned if users would put together an analysis or a synopsis on what they are posting - be it a video, a n article, a tweet, etc, that would help the process and make the posts more valuable and insightful.

Rather than a giant garbage heap, I think it behooves us to ensure Avalon stays as more of a "collector's emporium" of "interesting and insightful things" that have been extracted from the giant junk heap. :) At least that is they way I prefer to think of it as ... maybe my expectations are too high, I don't know.

[Savannah]

If you really want to be fair you can look back and see that the only threads Gracey goes after are those who support Trump or Q. The issues you bring up can be said for ever thread but strangely it only seems to come up on political threads. Given Bill's previous shadow banning of Q and if Gracy's comments here are a reflection of Bill's, then I will gladly leave Avalon. I left for year in response to the shadow banning. I will not contribute to a forum of that nature. Perhaps this needs to come to a head and a poll taken if Bill wants these political threads on Avalon to stop.

Well I wasn't really referring to what Gracy has been critical of specifically, I was just pointing that there is a lot of garbage and we could do with a bit more discernment. Some of what I have been seeing does roughly revolve around Trump stuff, and qanon related type stuff ... anyhow that's my point of view - but my response is more general - not targeting anyone or any topic. The issues can be seen in the vast amount of contradicting information and material.


More of a general observation that may include some of what Gracy is pointing out - but not that specifically.

Yes but I was addressing her specifically. Today its we are ruining the Forum and yesterday it was our poor judgement and some thing else before that and on and on. It needs to be addressed as a general pattern. A moderator should not attack members due to their ideology, but our improper actions. This one is thinly veiled and IMO and an abuse of her position.

[greybeard]

My last talk with President Trump | Rudy Giuliani



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg9iGvd5qb8

[ExomatrixTV]

General Hyten Digital Soldier - Outsmart Defeatism When They Cheat!:

bI4CwiT5OahB


source (https://www.bitchute.com/video/bI4CwiT5OahB/)

[greybeard]

Gracy with respect you accused me of beating a drum over the tests used regarding the virus.
I have been proven right --the tests not fit for purpose.

The use of now the focus of legal challenge and the perpetrators being sued in class actions throughout the world.

Now you are being highly critical of the honest endeavours of the members who have posted on this thread.
Thats your right as an ordinary member but you are not an ordinary member.
Wait and see what happens over the next few days before you go beating your drum, which you are entitled to do.
You are intelligent but I dont see much compassion there.

I dont mind being wrong as thats part of learning and growing -- but when im wrong I promptly admit it.
You may be proven right.
My mum was right quite often but not all the of the time
Early days yet.
Chris

[Merkaba360]

Its not like this is speculation from Icke about shape shifting reptilians 20 years ago. This is like the grandest of "conspiracies" happening at the highest level thru POTUS et al. Guessing would be a 50/50 chance. We are just trying to use the huge amount of data to bring it to 70/30 or 80/20. And in the mean time we are uncovering lots of interesting facts and anomalies that are waking people up. How is this a bad thing?

Its understandable for Gracy to remind us that some of us were duped by nibiru, etc. However, this situation is very different and tangible. I didn't buy into nibiru and many of the other dupes. Does that mean i'm still allowed to look at all the data and lean toward the Trump hopium outcome since I actually was correct on some of the disinfo? This is individual, not collective. Of course, collectively some Avalonians will buy into every distracting lie. That doesn't add up to a collective of Avalonians being buffoons who are always buying into the hopium and stuck in an endless loop of falling for the lies.

There is infinitely more detective work we can do to put together clues. This page is sorting out the clues from legal facts and unfoldings of lawsuit procedures amongst all the other data. From the way Trump is following the law and his promises, and many many other things I won't list here, it is very reasonable to feel their is a good chance of Arrests or exposure of corruption leading to change. Yes, I hope this to be true, but its more than hope, I really see many good indicators and I am PUTTING MY ENERGY INTO IT TO MAKE IT MY REALITY ! We are not hoping, we are trying to manifest it. Perhaps Gracy and others will overcome us with their attempt to make the arrests not a reality :) We shall soon see...

So, what good would it do me to just say, yea its all B.S. theatre, we the people must rise up. I'd still be sitting on my butt waiting for the crowd to rise up. And then we would go to the streets and be labeled terrorists and false falgs etc. lol There is no easy way out. That is why we must not underestimate the importance of the consciousness and awareness uprising. If that is sufficient, the legwork will follow and succeed.

[Strat]

A moderator should not attack members due to their ideology, but our improper actions.
I think you're misreading this, I think she is expressing her opinion. If she were to flex her moderator powers then your post wouldn't exist. Why don't you contact her personally? I suspect she doesn't need green letters on her name to show her heart.


This one is thinly veiled and IMO and an abuse of her position.
Whatever 'mod powers' she may have, I doubt she acts alone or has the ability to abuse said powers.

[ExomatrixTV]

For the record: Literately nobody knows for sure what will happen coming 24 hours ... and we all have (emotional) ideas, suggestions, speculations, gut feelings, visions, opinions etc. etc. which is completely human to do so ... as long as you do not force it on others or assume you have "all the right answers" ... from what I can see ... nobody is like that.

And if SOME can not deal with that just skip it. Nobody is forced to accept anything on face value.


Using discernment skills can never be spoon-fed ... it has to be practiced.

Everything I share is for "consideration purpose only" by default.

cheers,
John

[greybeard]

Mike Lindell: MyPillow Kicked From Bed Bath and Kohls; Trump Enacts Two Important Executive Orders


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCqKMmPCOXw

[greybeard]

Secretary Pompeo's EPIC Twitter Sign-Off



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QsK5WfkNB0

[DeDukshyn]

If you really want to be fair you can look back and see that the only threads Gracey goes after are those who support Trump or Q. The issues you bring up can be said for ever thread but strangely it only seems to come up on political threads. Given Bill's previous shadow banning of Q and if Gracy's comments here are a reflection of Bill's, then I will gladly leave Avalon. I left for year in response to the shadow banning. I will not contribute to a forum of that nature. Perhaps this needs to come to a head and a poll taken if Bill wants these political threads on Avalon to stop.

Well I wasn't really referring to what Gracy has been critical of specifically, I was just pointing that there is a lot of garbage and we could do with a bit more discernment. Some of what I have been seeing does roughly revolve around Trump stuff, and qanon related type stuff ... anyhow that's my point of view - but my response is more general - not targeting anyone or any topic. The issues can be seen in the vast amount of contradicting information and material.


More of a general observation that may include some of what Gracy is pointing out - but not that specifically.

Yes but I was addressing her specifically. Today its we are ruining the Forum and yesterday it was our poor judgement and some thing else before that and on and on. It needs to be addressed as a general pattern. A moderator should not attack members due to their ideology, but our improper actions. This one is thinly veiled and IMO and an abuse of her position.

Yes, I see that now, thanks for the clarification. :) To be clear I wasn't just responding to you but to the premise in general. Maybe consider, that she feels similar to me and that is the way she is just happening to express it (I don't know, just a thought). I have no game in defending her posts (most that I don't even know of, lol) but sometimes frustration comes out misdirected. I could be completely wrong though, and I am not speaking for her, she can (and will) clarify further if she feels the need. But I will say a lot of the posts regarding that topic could do with some better discernment, or as I said some personal commentary.

My two cents ... especially on the video posts with no description / commentary / synopsis whatsoever -- stop being so ****ing lazy if you really stand behind them ... so annoying ... (sorry Chris :) .. . this probably seemed specifically directed at you ... it wasn't - again just a general point I could direct at a lot of member here I won't mention (John, ahem).

[iota]

there are very few of noble intentions that would come to a thread where people are very sincere and authentic in their beliefs and begin to goad, use sarcasm ... ridicule "c'mon guys" ... "convince me" .. "well i don't think ...."

and that's just a fact

most people will not always agree but they don't make it someone else's problem to convince them

the fact that this was entertained for so long ... that's on the people that MADE it their job to convince and explain

i got that number after three times and just said .. "pretty sure you will not agree and i guess i'll just have to live with it"

that should not be allowed ... ever ...

people are entitled to their beliefs and to follow any line of thought they are interested in without needing to fear being ridiculed or needing anyone's agreement or permission ..

and opinions need not be demanded to be justified ...

now ... me?

i never found the video here .. but i DID write up MY opinion on Trump and well ..

and just for the record ... i'm fine if no one else agrees and ... i spent all the time i'm going to spend on the why i feel that way

just to head off ... you know ... before it starts ...

:shielddeflect:

post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112845-2020-Presidential-Election--and-its-Aftermath&p=1405357&viewfull=1#post1405357)

[DeDukshyn]

For the record: Literately nobody knows for sure what will happen coming 24 hours ... and we all have (emotional) ideas, suggestions, speculations, gut feelings, visions, opinions etc. etc. which is completely human to do so ... as long as you do not force it on others or assume you have "all the right answers" ... from what I can see ... nobody is like that.

And if you SOME can not deal with that just skip it. Nobody is forced to accept anything on face value.


Practicing discernment skills can never be spoon-fed ... it has to be practiced.

cheers,
John

Aliens from the galactic federation will be invading within 24 hours, Trump will hitch a ride on one of their spaceships in honour of his greatness and they will pick up Nanci pelosi and torture her for the crimes she is deserving of torture for. At 4:27 am, a giant solar flare will trigger an earthquake destroying capitol hill, and kill Joe Biden. All evil people and the cabal will be arrested. Jesus will come floating in on a cloud and forgive everyone's sins and the age of Aquarius will finally begin in earnest!

SOURCE: Some twitter post.

How about we practice discernment before we post? Just a thought .... Again, like I said, a personal commentary, or synopsis might go a long way ... or can't we stand behind our posts enough to do so?

[iota]

For the record: Literately nobody knows for sure what will happen coming 24 hours ... and we all have (emotional) ideas, suggestions, speculations, gut feelings, visions, opinions etc. etc. which is completely human to do so ... as long as you do not force it on others or assume you have "all the right answers" ... from what I can see ... nobody is like that.

And if you SOME can not deal with that just skip it. Nobody is forced to accept anything on face value.


Practicing discernment skills can never be spoon-fed ... it has to be practiced.

cheers,
John

Aliens from the galactic federation will be invading within 24 hours, Trump will hitch a ride on one of their spaceships in honour of his greatness and they will pick up Nanci pelosi and torture her for the crimes she is deserving of torture for. At 4:27 am, a giant solar flare will trigger an earthquake destroying capitol hill, and kill Joe Biden. All evil people and the cabal will be arrested. Jesus will come floating in on a cloud and forgive everyone's sins and the age of Aquarius will finally begin in earnest!

SOURCE: Some twitter post.

How about we practice discernment before we post? Just a thought .... Again, like I said, a personal commentary, or synopsis might go a long way ... or can't we stand behind our posts enough to do so?

or we could grant people BEING

and people could stop feeling they have a RIGHT to regulate what others do ...

you know .. since they are adults and all

[DeDukshyn]

there are very few of noble intentions that would come to a thread where people are very sincere and authentic in their beliefs and begin to goad, use sarcasm ... ridicule "c'mon guys" ... "convince me" .. "well i don't think ...."

and that's just a fact

most people will not always agree but they don't make it someone else's problem to convince them

the fact that this was entertained for so long ... that's on the people that MADE it their job to convince and explain

i got that number after three times and just said .. "pretty sure you will not agree and i guess i'll just have to live with it"

that should not be allowed ... ever ...

people are entitled to their beliefs and to follow any line of thought they are interested in without needing to fear being ridiculed or needing anyone's agreement or permission ..

and opinions need not be demanded to be justified ...

now ... me?

i never found the video here .. but i DID write up MY opinion on Trump and well ..

and just for the record ... i'm fine if no one else agrees and ... i spent all the time i'm going to spend on the why i feel that way

just to head off ... you know ... before it starts ...

:shielddeflect:

post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112845-2020-Presidential-Election--and-its-Aftermath&p=1405357&viewfull=1#post1405357)

I personally appreciate the vast majority of your posts - you give a commentary and a synopsis and have at least a touch of objectiveness ... just sayin' for the record. :)

EDIT: By the way regulation is external limitations ... I never asked for that. I only requested that people consider internal discernment. ... not the same at all. :)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Oops wrong thread...meant this one.

Imposter Joe Biden Will Be Driven From Office After Foolhardy Election Theft

No one — EVER — can outright steal a POTUS election, in broad daylight (actually the perps did it at night while everyone was watching their screens), and not expect very serious consequences.

What’s the old and very wise biblical saying: “God is not mocked.” Or, is it: “God cannot be mocked.”

In either case, what’s being expressed is an inviolable law of the Universe: No one, but no one, ever escape the jaws of KARMA.

However, in the instant case of the 2020 POTUS election, something much bigger has happened. The indisputable hard evidence proving rampant vote fraud, ballot rigging, cyber crimes and election theft by the Democrat Party were all accumulated on such a grand scale that now the entire planetary civilization is aware of the awesome Democrat crime wave that continues to wash over the USA.

What makes this particular predicament so very special is that the Highest Power is quite obviously using this unparalleled election heist as a teaching moment for ALL OF HUMANITY.

Yes, there have always been varying degrees of electoral fraud every election cycle, but the 2020 Democrat crime spree was both unrivaled and quite aggressively pushed into everybody’s face. When virtually everyone knows (regardless of what anyone says) that a HUGELY important election was robbed from the legitimate winner, along with President Trump’s very significant 80 million vote mandate, there will be hell to pay by the Biden-Harris crime duo.

Further reading

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=48605

Viking

[iota]

there are very few of noble intentions that would come to a thread where people are very sincere and authentic in their beliefs and begin to goad, use sarcasm ... ridicule "c'mon guys" ... "convince me" .. "well i don't think ...."

and that's just a fact

most people will not always agree but they don't make it someone else's problem to convince them

the fact that this was entertained for so long ... that's on the people that MADE it their job to convince and explain

i got that number after three times and just said .. "pretty sure you will not agree and i guess i'll just have to live with it"

that should not be allowed ... ever ...

people are entitled to their beliefs and to follow any line of thought they are interested in without needing to fear being ridiculed or needing anyone's agreement or permission ..

and opinions need not be demanded to be justified ...

now ... me?

i never found the video here .. but i DID write up MY opinion on Trump and well ..

and just for the record ... i'm fine if no one else agrees and ... i spent all the time i'm going to spend on the why i feel that way

just to head off ... you know ... before it starts ...

:shielddeflect:

post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112845-2020-Presidential-Election--and-its-Aftermath&p=1405357&viewfull=1#post1405357)

I personally appreciate the vast majority of your posts - you give a commentary and a synopsis and have at least a touch of objectiveness ... just sayin' for the record. :)

why i much appreciate that ... that is really very generous of you, thank you! :flower:

:flower: :flower:

PS
coming up

[iota]

EDIT: By the way regulation is external limitations ... I never asked for that. I only requested that people consider internal discernment. ... not the same at all

yes .. i understand but it is a slippery slope any time we ask/expect another to conform to our standards

like using the word "should"

it is saying "i know better than you"

and the standards that SHOULD regulate your life SHOULD meet MY expectations and agreement

i realize you didn't say ALL that .. but THAT IS where that slippery slope leads

in order to operate with some semblance of respect and harmony a basic recogntion that we ALL have opinions and a RIGHT to them

and to EXPRESS them without fear of ridicule or imposition of the opinion on another in an ENFORCED way

like i started a thread a while back ...

and people jumped in literally to tell me what i SHOULD

mind you, in real life .. there isn't a soul alive who would dare that .,..

even to tell me what i SHOULD name it

so i had to basically explain that i did NOT ask them ...

that i was NOT looking for "help"

and that i was NOT accepting "directions"

and to PLEASE not put me in a position to have to explain or justify or defend myself

because on most occasions> it was likely that i would

so it is best that we use OUR opinion? to regulate OUR actions

and allow others to use THEIR opinions to regulate THEIRS

people generally appreciate that .. :flower:

[DeDukshyn]

there are very few of noble intentions that would come to a thread where people are very sincere and authentic in their beliefs and begin to goad, use sarcasm ... ridicule "c'mon guys" ... "convince me" .. "well i don't think ...."

and that's just a fact

most people will not always agree but they don't make it someone else's problem to convince them

the fact that this was entertained for so long ... that's on the people that MADE it their job to convince and explain

i got that number after three times and just said .. "pretty sure you will not agree and i guess i'll just have to live with it"

that should not be allowed ... ever ...

people are entitled to their beliefs and to follow any line of thought they are interested in without needing to fear being ridiculed or needing anyone's agreement or permission ..

and opinions need not be demanded to be justified ...

now ... me?

i never found the video here .. but i DID write up MY opinion on Trump and well ..

and just for the record ... i'm fine if no one else agrees and ... i spent all the time i'm going to spend on the why i feel that way

just to head off ... you know ... before it starts ...

:shielddeflect:

post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112845-2020-Presidential-Election--and-its-Aftermath&p=1405357&viewfull=1#post1405357)

I personally appreciate the vast majority of your posts - you give a commentary and a synopsis and have at least a touch of objectiveness ... just sayin' for the record. :)

why i much appreciate that ... that is really very generous of you, thank you! :flower:

so ... ok ... DeDukshyn ... i WOULD like your opinion please!

and its ok if you disagree .. i really like to just operate in truth and all ...

:flower: :flower:

Ok, I skimmed it rather quickly. I do also note, (absent from your post) is that he was the only person from his "group" to testify against Epstein in 2009. Sure he made a comment about grabbing women by the pussy, but last time I check he was a man.

I don't have anything against Trump (despite how generalizations often occur without reason), other than he's a buffoon. He's been very useful, actually. At the same time none of his policies do nothing more than buy us time against the globalists - and for that I have been thankful.

I would have liked to see another term with him, but now its up to us. We can no longer afford to keep looking up to a "saviour" of sorts to bring us out of this mess. We need to start taklng individual responsibility. Trump did what he could, the rest is up to us. Every joule of energy spent now on hoping for the saviour to save us is joule wasted that we could be spending ourselves in the same effort.

Nice writing though ... as I said, you tend to give a nice "plump" post. Sometimes a bit of fresh air from some of the anemic ones that just regurgitate or copy something already said, even if I don't always agree. :)

[iota]

Ok, I skimmed it rather quickly. I do also note, (absent from your post) is that he was the only person from his "group" to testify against Epstein in 2009. Sure he made a comment about grabbing women by the pussy, but last time I check he was a man.

I don't have anything against Trump (despite how generalizations often occur without reason), other than he's a buffoon. He's been very useful, actually. At the same time none of his policies do nothing more than buy us time against the globalists - and for that I have been thankful.

I would have liked to see another term with him, but now its up to us.

We can no longer afford to keep looking up to a "saviour" of sorts to bring us out of this mess. We need to start taklng individual responsibility. Trump did what he could, the rest is up to us. Every joule of energy spent now on hoping for the saviour to save us is joule wasted that we could be spending ourselves in the same effort.

Nice writing though ... as I said, you tend to give a nice "plump" post. :)

and if we're going to state opinions? i agree 100% with the part i did in bold ...

i don't agree he is a buffoon i think he is much more and did much more by age 30 than most people will DARE try to in their lifetimes

but you are 100% correct that the response-ability for OUR lives? lies squarely on OUR shoulders

we are here through OUR choices .. not another's

:flower:

[DeDukshyn]

i don't agree he is a buffoon ...

:flower:

This comes back to a couple of my posts in another thread I started ... If you compare Trump to say .. someone like Daniel Schmachtenberger ... let's say we put together a debate between those two - Daniel, some guy on youtube, vs the "president of the greatest country on earth" ... that's all I'm saying. If one backs out a bit and looks at the entire field in a proper perspective ... well ... it is what it is .. :)

[iota]

i don't agree he is a buffoon ...

:flower:

This comes back to a couple of my posts in another thread I started ... If you compare Trump to say .. someone like Daniel Schmachtenberger ... let's say we put together a debate between those two - Daniel, some guy on youtube, vs the "president of the greatest country on earth" ... that's all I'm saying. If one backs out a bit and looks at the field in a proper perspective ... well ... it is what it is .. :)

one of my favorite poems as a child was Desiderata, it said
"

"if you compare yourself to others, ALWAYS there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself"

so .. anyone who engages in that practice will soon feel like a yoyo

sometimes higher than others .. but then someone will come along that will make them feel lower

personally i don't allow comparisons

the reason is that whatever purpose Source may have had in mind for me?

one thing IS certain (for me and for EVERYONE)

i (and everyone) did NOT incarnate here to be ANYONE's "approved version" of anyone else

we incarnated to be OUR own "approved version" of ourselves

and i find it interesting that people will often expand great effort and energy to convince another that they should conform to the standards of ANYONE

it is ONE of the reasons i WILL NOT live under a communist regime ... i'm likely to annihilate the lot of them or die trying ...

as for Trump, i'm sure we can always find others that might compare favorably or even better in an aspect or two

but the VAST majority of the seven billion>

they were NOT leaders of their school as a child

i had a 6th grade teacher i disapproved of .. .and i arranged when she walked in for ALL of us to stand up, take our desks and turn around and turn our backs on her ... i was ELEVEN .. ... in this article, there is a video of his classmates telling how he was in charge back then ... at 10 i believe

his father taught him a strong work ethic and to work hard for his achievements ... which means he tops 98% of the population

achievement by average standards is what comes easy .. achievement by his standards is ...

"There is this impossible mountain over there...and i'm going to bring it down" /// so even when it takes 867 times?

well ... THAT is what it took .. really there was not a single thing the man set out to do he didn't including the presidency .. the end of the post i asked your opinion cites this as the basis that another has been taking his place .. in speeches and actions

IF he is ok .. i assure you that HELL itself could not stop him ... i'm familiar with characters like him ... and no does not really compute to these types

"no" simply means "find another way"

there are very few who can measure up to standards like that ... i at least don't know even a handful

BUT ... those are MY reasons for respecting him

you of course have your own for NOT agreeing ... just different perspectives is all

this vide is short .. and 40 yrs ago .. i found it very revealing ...


nAgJAxkALyc

PS thanks for taking the time to read, consider and respond .. i appreciate that! i'm off to bed now .. .going to try to switch timelines while i still can ...

or where did you say the aliens were landing? did they give an address?

:sun:

[DeDukshyn]

i don't agree he is a buffoon ...

:flower:

This comes back to a couple of my posts in another thread I started ... If you compare Trump to say .. someone like Daniel Schmachtenberger ... let's say we put together a debate between those two - Daniel, some guy on youtube, vs the "president of the greatest country on earth" ... that's all I'm saying. If one backs out a bit and looks at the field in a proper perspective ... well ... it is what it is .. :)

one of my favorite poems as a child was Desiderata, it said
"

"if you compare yourself to others, ALWAYS there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself"

so .. anyone who engages in that practice will soon feel like a yoyo

sometimes higher than others .. but then someone will come along that will make them feel lower

personally i don't allow comparisons

the reason is that whatever purpose Source may have had in mind for me?

one thing IS certain (for me and for EVERYONE)

i (and everyone) did NOT incarnate here to be ANYONE's "approved version" of anyone else

we incarnated to be OUR own "approved version" of ourselves

and i find it interesting that people will often expand great effort and energy to convince another that they should conform to the standards of ANYONE

it is ONE of the reasons i WILL NOT live under a communist regime ... i'm likely to annihilate the lot of them or die trying ...

as for Trump, i'm sure we can always find others that might compare favorably or even better in an aspect or two

but the VAST majority of the seven billion>

they were NOT leaders of their school as a child

i had a 6th grade teacher i disapproved of .. .and i arranged when she walked in for ALL of us to stand up, take our desks and turn around and turn our backs on her ... i was ELEVEN .. ... in this article, there is a video of his classmates telling how he was in charge back then ... at 10 i believe

his father taught him a strong work ethic and to work hard for his achievements ... which means he tops 98% of the population

achievement by average standards is what comes easy .. achievement by his standards is ...

"There is this impossible mountain over there...and i'm going to bring it down" /// so even when it takes 867 times?

well ... THAT is what it took .. really there was not a single thing the man set out to do he didn't including the presidency .. the end of the post i asked your opinion cites this as the basis that another has been taking his place .. in speeches and actions

IF he is ok .. i assure you that HELL itself could not stop him ... i'm familiar with characters like him ... and no does not really compute to these types

"no" simply means "find another way"

there are very few who can measure up to standards like that ... i at least don't know even a handful

BUT ... those are MY reasons for respecting him

you of course have your own for NOT agreeing ... just different perspectives is all

this vide is short .. and 40 yrs ago .. i found it very revealing ...


nAgJAxkALyc

PS thanks for taking the time to read, consider and respond .. i appreciate that! i'm off to bed now .. .going to try to switch timelines while i still can ...

or where did you say the aliens were landing? did they give an address?

:sun:

You may be mistaking a comparison between myself to others, and my desires for what a leader of the "greatest country on earth" should be, again as per my other thread. That said, great post, outside of that consideration. :)

[CaptnNemo]

Are these the declassified documents ?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ml4OyYFXdLN5ssGB581poAw3uTtqd15gNoQj4dPn5BU/edit

Can someone tell me if this is legit or is it just a gathering of old documents put in together on that page ?

I am sorry if that was already posted. Hard to keep track these days...

Thanks

[greybeard]

Some of my posts here could have done with more discernment.
However if there were just possibly a few grains of truth in there and some uplift --it might be justified.
The challenge is it all hypothetical at the moment.

Anyone who thinks there was no or minimal voting fraud really needs to examine their critical thinking.
Anyone who thinks it valid to censor the Presidents speeches really should wonder why so many Doctors pointing out the truth about Covid had their videos taken down.

This whole thing really started the moment the whole world went into lockdown over night.
If you think that was to protect people from a virus -- then why lock up healthy people en-mass?

This is about freedom of the individual as pointed out in Trump's farewell speech.
Anyone who does not believe the CCP is a controlling force need to look at their history concerning their own people.
Is that what American people want?

I could say a lot more but most on this thread are even more aware than I of the possibility of loss of freedom.
New World Order here we come.
Chris

[Zamolxe]

OK, let's imagine an extreme hypothetical situation.

99% of the content on the "truth seeking"/"conspiracy" forums is complete garbage -

I try to tell a smart/rational person that is not aware of the TRUE conspiracies (1%) out there about these TRUE conspiracies
He/she will be turned away from any "conspiratorial" ideas because of the 99% UTTER BS that is on these sites.

Wouldn't that mean that anyone who posts BS videos is bringing down the reputation of this forum?
I would go even further and ask if that person isn't actually chipping away and destroying the whole "truth seeking" community.

Again, I am just discussing a hypothetical situation.


Now, back to our actual situation.

If Biden is inaugurated today, wouldn't it mean that all the "IT'S HAPPENING" "MAJOR ARRESTS over the next several days" "Trump will be inaugurated 100%" "5D chess behind the scenes" "Blackouts" "Italian president convicted" "Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing!" "there will be martial law and arrests and Trump will be in for another four years"
- was all BS?

So, would we be in that initial hypothetical situation?

Shouldn't we hold all the vloggers/bloggers that post this garbage accountable for manipulating us?
And more importantly, shouldn't we also hold ourselves accountable for spreading this BS without any vetting, rational analysis and discernment?

[Zamolxe]

For the record: Literately nobody knows for sure what will happen coming 24 hours ... and we all have (emotional) ideas, suggestions, speculations, gut feelings, visions, opinions etc. etc. which is completely human to do so ... as long as you do not force it on others or assume you have "all the right answers" ... from what I can see ... nobody is like that.

And if you SOME can not deal with that just skip it. Nobody is forced to accept anything on face value.


Practicing discernment skills can never be spoon-fed ... it has to be practiced.

cheers,
John

Aliens from the galactic federation will be invading within 24 hours, Trump will hitch a ride on one of their spaceships in honour of his greatness and they will pick up Nanci pelosi and torture her for the crimes she is deserving of torture for. At 4:27 am, a giant solar flare will trigger an earthquake destroying capitol hill, and kill Joe Biden. All evil people and the cabal will be arrested. Jesus will come floating in on a cloud and forgive everyone's sins and the age of Aquarius will finally begin in earnest!

SOURCE: Some twitter post.

How about we practice discernment before we post? Just a thought .... Again, like I said, a personal commentary, or synopsis might go a long way ... or can't we stand behind our posts enough to do so?

or we could grant people BEING

and people could stop feeling they have a RIGHT to regulate what others do ...

you know .. since they are adults and all


Everyone has freedom to fundamental human rights unless the exercise of rights of one is in an attempt to infringe on the rights of others (theft, murder, etc)

When can a person express his opinion and suggest that his rights were infringed because of:


Wouldn't that mean that anyone who posts BS videos is bringing down the reputation of this forum?
I would go even further and ask if that person isn't actually chipping away and destroying the whole "truth seeking" community.

[Zamolxe]

there are very few of noble intentions that would come to a thread where people are very sincere and authentic in their beliefs and begin to goad, use sarcasm ... ridicule "c'mon guys" ... "convince me" .. "well i don't think ...."

and that's just a fact

most people will not always agree but they don't make it someone else's problem to convince them

the fact that this was entertained for so long ... that's on the people that MADE it their job to convince and explain

i got that number after three times and just said .. "pretty sure you will not agree and i guess i'll just have to live with it"

that should not be allowed ... ever ...

people are entitled to their beliefs and to follow any line of thought they are interested in without needing to fear being ridiculed or needing anyone's agreement or permission ..

and opinions need not be demanded to be justified ...

now ... me?

i never found the video here .. but i DID write up MY opinion on Trump and well ..

and just for the record ... i'm fine if no one else agrees and ... i spent all the time i'm going to spend on the why i feel that way

just to head off ... you know ... before it starts ...

:shielddeflect:

post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112845-2020-Presidential-Election--and-its-Aftermath&p=1405357&viewfull=1#post1405357)

I'm sorry, but I've seen multiple cases of people writing completely unagressive posts that only factually challenged specific topics in the videos/posts on this thread and they have been brought down for:
- being a shill
- why have you started posting now?
- why are you doing this when people are upset?
- you are probably a sleeper account.

Any divergent idea is met with a level of hostility that I find actually ironic.

[TargeT]

Wouldn't that mean that anyone who posts BS videos is bringing down the reputation of this forum?

to think that way is assuming humans are perfect, or nearly so I guess?

A negative answer in science is vastly more useful than a positive one... we MUST allow freedom of speech when discussing ideas, a "bs video" is necessary, being tricked is needed... how else do you learn what those things are and how to avoid them.... if nothing else they are just lessons; if we " fell for them" then they are lessons we clearly needed.



I'm sorry, but I've seen multiple cases of people writing completely unagressive posts that only factually challenged specific topics in the videos/posts on this thread and they have been brought down for:
- being a shill
- why have you started posting now?
- why are you doing this when people are upset?
- you are probably a sleeper account.

Any divergent idea is met with a level of hostility that I find actually ironic.

could you provide an example or two?

now remember, there are quite a few pages in this thread and a wide verity of topics have been covered (some extensively)... a repetitive question that has been answered already is sometimes not treated the best because often the assumption is that the poster has kept up with the thread and isn't just "reflex" posting (low effort etc... which is most likely the case) when these two things converge confusion ensues.

[greybeard]

Wouldn't that mean that anyone who posts BS videos is bringing down the reputation of this forum?

to think that way is assuming humans are perfect, or nearly so I guess?

A negative answer in science is vastly more useful than a positive one... we MUST allow freedom of speech when discussing ideas, a "bs video" is necessary, being tricked is needed... how else do you learn what those things are and how to avoid them.... if nothing else they are just lessons; if we " fell for them" then they are lessons we clearly needed.

Yes we learn from our mistakes.
However lets not forget a lot of posts were direct videos of Lin Wood and Sidney Powell --both have well respected history.
Now were these posts bull****?
Are they just going to say "Game over"?
I doubt that very much.
I believe in the title of this thread.
Chris

[Olam]

The poly-ticks divide more and more.
My dad and I almost lost our life long friendship over the holidays with the latest developments .
It took the will of both of us at a human level to realize the futility of it all.
We were finally able to see each other as we really are, humans trying to make the best of a very difficult situation, each in our own way.
We refused to have these monsters break our common unity.

I see the same happening here as their methods are very efficient .
Can we agree that we are all suffering right now and we do have this in common?
I respect how you deal the pain, no matter how it is.

I wish you all peace in your heart as it's the only way to win this battle together.

[greybeard]

Im happy to say I have been brainwashed by spirituality, so while there is compassion, there is no fear, no personal concern.
And there is the AA prayer.
"God grant the serenity
to accept the things I can not change
Courage to change the things I can
Wisdom to know the difference"

The concern is that bit by bit personal freedom is being eroded.
The right to make our own decisions, take risks.
Big brother will look after us in every way.
We wont have to make decisions.
Everything provided in the Great Reset -- as long as we conform.
I never lose sight of what this thread is really about and its not politics.

Dont lose hope regardless of whether Biden is inaugurated or not.

Chris

[Zamolxe]

could you provide an example or two?


I will try to find the time and go through the treads again.




to think that way is assuming humans are perfect, or nearly so I guess?

A negative answer in science is vastly more useful than a positive one... we MUST allow freedom of speech when discussing ideas, a "bs video" is necessary, being tricked is needed... how else do you learn what those things are and how to avoid them.... if nothing else they are just lessons; if we " fell for them" then they are lessons we clearly needed.

I completely agree with you. And there's nothing that I would like more than to see members realising that they were wrong to believe any BS and using this opportunity to learn discernment and evolve. It would be the only silver lining after all the manipulation and I hope to see it after today's inauguration (IF Biden is inaugurated).

If you are emailed every day by a nigerian prince with a fortune for you... and you send him 1000 dollars every single day, there comes a time when you should realize that you should stop opening your email.

Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice....

Just to make things clear, I have no ill thoughts regarding the people that believe any of this "supposed" BS. After all, they have nothing but good intentions... Who would disregard someone that wants to end fraud, injustice, global corruption, satanic pedophilia, etc.
Who could blame anyone of attacking the Capitol, if they were sure that they are fighting against the above mentioned issues.

But I do hate the people that post this BS for views/monetary/political gains. And you should hate them too when you realise that they were conning you.

[T Smith]

If Biden is inaugurated today, wouldn't it mean that all the "IT'S HAPPENING" "MAJOR ARRESTS over the next several days" "Trump will be inaugurated 100%" "5D chess behind the scenes" "Blackouts" "Italian president convicted" "Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing!" "there will be martial law and arrests and Trump will be in for another four years"
- was all BS?



We humans tend to like things wrapped up neatly in black or white boxes; sometimes we don't do so well with gray boxes. It's either going to happen as predicted or it's all BS from charlatans. It can be nothing in-between.

I've never bought into the "nothing can stop what's coming!" narrative, because it's just not realistic. There's plenty that can stop what's coming including a very successful false-flag event at the Capitol that likely altered the course of the outcome. But that doesn't mean it's all BS. It means there is a covert power struggle going on behind the scenes that filters through the distorted lens of State propaganda, alternative media analysis, and speculative podcasters, all documenting battles won and lost with the score card continually changing. This isn't Niburu, or some time-traveler's prediction that never comes to pass; in my view, the fight to save the American Republic was very real. See my post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112814-MASSIVE-FRAUD-Major-Lawsuits-to-come&p=1403258&viewfull=1#post1403258) from two weeks ago.

It should be clear to all that we are in an information war and amid one of the largest mass psyops ever waged against the people to expedite the fall of the American Republic as we know it, so in this environment we should deem no source as reliable. We are in and have been in the fog of a color revolution war for quite some time now.

As far as the podcasters and insiders and the 5-d chess narrative, we can think of those as rallying cries from the sidelines, and yes, in some cases they are only click bait for traffic--and in many cases purely fantasy. But the aim has always been to clean up the corruption and thwart a war waged against a sovereign nation.

Sometimes, it would seem, it's just too big to pull off.

[araucaria]

America is a great country, but one area that could be improved is its excessive Manicheanism in the dictionary sense: the doctrine of the separate existence of good and evil. Excessive because it spills over into politics and everyday thinking. It’s no longer cowboys and Indians, or even democrats and republicans, it has morphed into patriots and ‘communists’. But these ‘communists’, many of whom are the multibillionaires, sound to me more like common or garden capitalists. And the socially-minded citizen is described as ‘conservative’, although if anything radically new was done in this direction, it would be totally progressive. The old dichotomies have got to go.

But the Manicheanism is also selective, inasmuch as it is somewhat lacking in the one area where a little separation, if not of good and evil, at least of what is allowed and what is not allowed, could be usefully applied: in the courts, where unconstitutional and/or illegal activities are not being identified and adequately dealt with. The more crime goes unconvicted, the more it becomes the norm for those committing it, and the more it becomes Evil in the eyes of everybody else. This is where the current situation shows the system has failed and where a correction needs to operate. Choosing a president is a yes-and-no alternative: at the moment, the choice seems to be ‘both’ or ‘neither’. That is not a viable option at this time, unless and until constitutional reform introduces the probably necessary move away from an overly regal system, or until better coordination between the executive and legislative branches is achieved.

When this situation is left to fester for too long, it spreads beyond the country’s borders to foreign powers, who also become evil/enemies. Non-American becomes equated with un-American; and to some extent this is justified, because when America is weakened as described above, then it is going to attract the wrong kind of foreigners, ones who are not America’s friends. This is the relationship between civil strife and one kind of war, when the vulnerable come under attack.

None of this of course is anything new. What is fairly new is that it is playing out against a backdrop of weapons of total planetary destruction. What is rather old is what I just called the ‘overly regal system’. I have just completed a set of posts on Shakespeare’s history plays (started on Jan 2), examining (i.e. bringing my personal brain power to bear on the subject) how the stories of past English kings were used to comment on his own day in Elizabethan times, and how they might be extended to comment on our own day. This would be possible for someone dealing with human archetypes, meaning whatever survives through multiple generations. My final post, on Donald Trump, was not deliberately timed to appear yesterday, but that is how it worked out. I have no particular opinion on anything, beyond the observation that Trump’s performance (whether the mainstream or the alternative narrative) fits like a glove with this old story, signalling a possible end of the line for Shakespeare’s ‘the worst is yet to come’ scenario. Anyone who has been watching too many two-hour videos might care to take a look here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?95596-Shakespeare-did-NOT-write-Shakespeare.--Mark-Twain-Is-Shakespeare-Dead--&p=1405087&viewfull=1#post1405087).



We humans tend to like things wrapped up neatly in black or white boxes; sometimes we don't do so well with gray boxes. It's either going to happen as predicted or it's all BS from charlatans. It can be nothing in-between.

Just seen this post, thank you T Smith.

[TargeT]

But I do hate the people that post this BS for views/monetary/political gains. And you should hate them too when you realise that they were conning you.

I don't know, hate's a pretty powerful concept... what if those people themselves believed what they were "selling" do we still "hate" them?

motive is very hard to prove, I do have a strong distaste for individuals that seem to clearly deceive on purpose; but I suppose I also don't interact with many that would fit the definition you elude to.

this isn't the first or last case of a hopium dealer (if it turns out to be that) honestly; we should be disappointed with our selves if we feel we were tricked into something.

[greybeard]

LIVE: President Donald Trump Sendoff Ceremony at Joint Base Andrews/Arrival in FL 1/20/21


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jebuWS871IQ

[TomKat]

But I do hate the people that post this BS for views/monetary/political gains. And you should hate them too when you realise that they were conning you.
I don't know, hate's a pretty powerful concept... what if those people themselves believed what they were "selling" do we still "hate" them?


Personally, I'm in favor of people talking like real people, saying they love or hate something, rather than talking as if they're running for office.

[atman]

https://twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1351888727212240896

[Zamolxe]

But I do hate the people that post this BS for views/monetary/political gains. And you should hate them too when you realise that they were conning you.
I don't know, hate's a pretty powerful concept... what if those people themselves believed what they were "selling" do we still "hate" them?


Personally, I'm in favor of people talking like real people, saying they love or hate something, rather than talking as if they're running for office.

We're OK with:
- branding people as traitors
- wanting to hang them
- wanting to send them to FEMA camps
- wanting to send them to Guantanamo,
- have them go through ad-hoc military tribunals
- storming the Captiol for "trial by combat"
(all because we believe what people on the internet say without any evidence)....

but hating the persons that lied to us for the past 4 years, consumed our time and energy, alienated us from friends and family that smelled the BS from miles away, loaded us with fear and despair, took our money as patreon/political donations.... that is where we draw the line...
We shall not hate them!

Sorry for the sarcasm

[T Smith]

We're OK with:
- branding people as traitors
- wanting to hang them
- wanting to send them to FEMA camps
- wanting to send them to Guantanamo,
- have them go through ad-hoc military tribunals
- storming the Captiol for "trial by combat"
(all because we believe what people on the internet say without any evidence)....

but hating the persons that lied to us for the past 4 years, consumed our time and energy, alienated us from friends and family that smelled the BS from miles away, loaded us with fear and despair, took our money as patreon/political donations.... that is where we draw the line...
We shall not hate them!

Sorry for the sarcasm

We are now indeed living in a post-modern world, where reality itself is subjective, a reflection of one's individual paradigm of understanding the world. There can be no objective truth in this world; reality morphs to fit whatever construct serves our biases while those powers that ultimately fashion our biases run roughshod over humanity.

Nothing illustrates this more to me than your post above.

[Savannah]

A moderator should not attack members due to their ideology, but our improper actions.
I think you're misreading this, I think she is expressing her opinion. If she were to flex her moderator powers then your post wouldn't exist. Why don't you contact her personally? I suspect she doesn't need green letters on her name to show her heart.


This one is thinly veiled and IMO and an abuse of her position.
Whatever 'mod powers' she may have, I doubt she acts alone or has the ability to abuse said powers.

Social medica is currently being controlled and some have been removed because the platform either supports the prevailing narrative or it doesn’t. Social media, that includes Avalon, gives people a voice. That matters because we collectively manifest and we use the 3D world to act (ie. riot, vote, participate in wars, move to another country). There is power in numbers. It is clear the majority does not want totalitarianism or socialism. There are still a few who think that’s the path and they come onto threads of those who don’t want that. Most have firmly made up their minds and resonate together. The ones who “just have a right to their opinion” are tolerated and ignored. They accomplish little but aggravate others. Information is everywhere and I can find contradictory opinions if I want them. I respectfully stay off threads I don’t know anything about, I disagree with or think or so stupid they belong on face book. I respect all by just allowing them to exist in peace. I don’t harass them with demeaning comments. I am however not passive in the least and will fight back when I am attacked and when I see others attacked. I will fight back when I feel I’, being manipulated or coerced.

This is not a movement for Trump worship, it’s not about passivity or giving power to any one person. That BS is spun by many to suppress those who try to fight back. It’s not about Q, that most have no idea what it really is but certainly have an opinion about it. So again IMO… It’s a spiritual war against light and dark forces and not about an election, Democrat versus Republican. That’s just the platform they use to play it out on. I may be wrong in looking at certain information but that is not of primary importance and you have completely simplified this situation if you think that’s what really matters. I have polarized to the positive pole, those who support Biden may have done the same but don’t see that materializing that will not result in the feel good lies they gave you. Trump and any Presidency needs to end and we need to govern ourselves in the future. So to me…what maters is the polarization, or has been expressed “separating the wheat from the chaff” (no I’m not Christian, just hold Christed consciousness).

This war is a dangerous war that social platforms are being removed, people lose their jobs, loved ones and lives. If you own a social platform you may want to remain neutral and talk about UFO’s, new age beliefs and other non-threating topics and ban Political threads. You may like Mods who discourage those who start and maintain those threads and shadow ban information that is too threatening to certain controllers. You may also have a right to that, if you think easy topics will keep your forum going on its own. I will just move on like many really good people who have already left Avalon because of that.

[iota]

OK, let's imagine an extreme hypothetical situation.

99% of the content on the "truth seeking"/"conspiracy" forums is complete garbage -

I try to tell a smart/rational person that is not aware of the TRUE conspiracies (1%) out there about these TRUE conspiracies
He/she will be turned away from any "conspiratorial" ideas because of the 99% UTTER BS that is on these sites.

Wouldn't that mean that anyone who posts BS videos is bringing down the reputation of this forum?
I would go even further and ask if that person isn't actually chipping away and destroying the whole "truth seeking" community.

Again, I am just discussing a hypothetical situation.


Now, back to our actual situation.

If Biden is inaugurated today, wouldn't it mean that all the "IT'S HAPPENING" "MAJOR ARRESTS over the next several days" "Trump will be inaugurated 100%" "5D chess behind the scenes" "Blackouts" "Italian president convicted" "Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing!" "there will be martial law and arrests and Trump will be in for another four years"
- was all BS?

So, would we be in that initial hypothetical situation?

Shouldn't we hold all the vloggers/bloggers that post this garbage accountable for manipulating us?
And more importantly, shouldn't we also hold ourselves accountable for spreading this BS without any vetting, rational analysis and discernment?

you mean penalize people for being wrong?

and allow some to arise to authority over a human being?

WHO decides what is right? and WHAT is wrong?

America up to today, has been the OASIS of FREEDOM

FREEDOM of SPEECH and definitely FREEDOM of THOUGHT

THIS has been THE fundamental issue that most proponents of Trump also espoused

it is CHINA where someone HAS authority over another and CAN and DOES decide who is "right" and who is "wrong"

i have a crystal ball that predicts the future

it says that WHAT is RIGHT will be

WHATEVER the person with the Authority says that it is

the DAY that someone has authority over our bodies OR for God's sake, our MINDS?

THAT day? > we have a MASTER

let's NOT sugar coat that

:shielddeflect:

PS

and i am going to go to watch the debacle unfold today ... but i will gladly spend months with you on this topic as of the settling of the dust here


i'll just leave you with one thought,

EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES

sometimes DAILY

sometimes HOURLY

in fact, that IS the process of LEARNING

HOW we proceed in childhood to adulthood

actually HOW we proceed to ANYTHING

the process of Discovery IS THAT > a PROCESS

AND

ABSOLUTELY NO ONE has the RIGHT to determine what is RIGHT for ANOTHER

and that includes YOU

even if you think so

WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF BEING

in spite of ALL the disapproval

and ALL attempts to curtail or PENALIZE for that

the REAL change that is NEEDED

is respect that EVERY individual has THEIR OWN path

and it does NOT require ANYONE else's

APPROVAL or AGREEMENT


(that is ALL the time and energy i will devote to this for the next couple of days, when the dust settles i'll open up its own darned thread ... NOT RIGHT NOW ...)

[Maia Gabrial]

I hope so, viking; but will they win? As we've see already how much corruption and outright violations of law states' courts and judges committed against Trump's lawyers, I don't think there will be much success. The lawyers had right on their side, but it didn't matter when the criminals had deception and criminality on theirs...

[iota]

i don't agree he is a buffoon ...

:flower:

This comes back to a couple of my posts in another thread I started ... If you compare Trump to say .. someone like Daniel Schmachtenberger ... let's say we put together a debate between those two - Daniel, some guy on youtube, vs the "president of the greatest country on earth" ... that's all I'm saying. If one backs out a bit and looks at the field in a proper perspective ... well ... it is what it is .. :)

one of my favorite poems as a child was Desiderata, it said
"

"if you compare yourself to others, ALWAYS there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself"

so .. anyone who engages in that practice will soon feel like a yoyo

sometimes higher than others .. but then someone will come along that will make them feel lower

personally i don't allow comparisons

the reason is that whatever purpose Source may have had in mind for me?

one thing IS certain (for me and for EVERYONE)

i (and everyone) did NOT incarnate here to be ANYONE's "approved version" of anyone else

we incarnated to be OUR own "approved version" of ourselves

and i find it interesting that people will often expand great effort and energy to convince another that they should conform to the standards of ANYONE

it is ONE of the reasons i WILL NOT live under a communist regime ... i'm likely to annihilate the lot of them or die trying ...

as for Trump, i'm sure we can always find others that might compare favorably or even better in an aspect or two

but the VAST majority of the seven billion>

they were NOT leaders of their school as a child

i had a 6th grade teacher i disapproved of .. .and i arranged when she walked in for ALL of us to stand up, take our desks and turn around and turn our backs on her ... i was ELEVEN .. ... in this article, there is a video of his classmates telling how he was in charge back then ... at 10 i believe

his father taught him a strong work ethic and to work hard for his achievements ... which means he tops 98% of the population

achievement by average standards is what comes easy .. achievement by his standards is ...

"There is this impossible mountain over there...and i'm going to bring it down" /// so even when it takes 867 times?

well ... THAT is what it took .. really there was not a single thing the man set out to do he didn't including the presidency .. the end of the post i asked your opinion cites this as the basis that another has been taking his place .. in speeches and actions

IF he is ok .. i assure you that HELL itself could not stop him ... i'm familiar with characters like him ... and no does not really compute to these types

"no" simply means "find another way"

there are very few who can measure up to standards like that ... i at least don't know even a handful

BUT ... those are MY reasons for respecting him

you of course have your own for NOT agreeing ... just different perspectives is all

this vide is short .. and 40 yrs ago .. i found it very revealing ...


nAgJAxkALyc

PS thanks for taking the time to read, consider and respond .. i appreciate that! i'm off to bed now .. .going to try to switch timelines while i still can ...

or where did you say the aliens were landing? did they give an address?

:sun:

You may be mistaking a comparison between myself to others, and my desires for what a leader of the "greatest country on earth" should be, again as per my other thread. That said, great post, outside of that consideration. :)

:flower:

let's go watch the unfolding of the day's events

then witness the magnificent emergence of the Human Spirit

in whom i have COMPLETE FAITH

WILL EMERGE TRIUMPHANT

namaste new friend ... and thank you for sharing your exceptional mind and reasoning process

:flower:

[Mypos]

Can someone give me any kind of explanation for people like Sidney Powel and Lin Wood ruining there reputations by saying all kinds of stuff that didnt come trough? And for what end?

[TargeT]

Can someone give me any kind of explanation for people like Sidney Powel and Lin Wood ruining there reputations by saying all kinds of stuff that didnt come trough? And for what end?

I would hope that they genuinely believed what they were saying? I can't imagine they would sign sworn affidavits otherwise ?

[iota]

But I do hate the people that post this BS for views/monetary/political gains. And you should hate them too when you realise that they were conning you.
I don't know, hate's a pretty powerful concept... what if those people themselves believed what they were "selling" do we still "hate" them?


Personally, I'm in favor of people talking like real people, saying they love or hate something, rather than talking as if they're running for office.

We're OK with:
- branding people as traitors
- wanting to hang them
- wanting to send them to FEMA camps
- wanting to send them to Guantanamo,
- have them go through ad-hoc military tribunals
- storming the Captiol for "trial by combat"
(all because we believe what people on the internet say without any evidence)....

but hating the persons that lied to us for the past 4 years, consumed our time and energy, alienated us from friends and family that smelled the BS from miles away, loaded us with fear and despair, took our money as patreon/political donations.... that is where we draw the line...
We shall not hate them!

Sorry for the sarcasm


damn it!! i came here for political news

but ok ... LAST one

HATE is a thread away from murder

and murder is WHAT IS the penalty for TRAITORS

TRAITORS IDENTIFIED BY THEIR ACTIONS

and the PROBLEM

IS THE LABELING

AND the People who have set themselves up in JUDGEMNT

we identify them by their CONTINUOUS and HABITUAL and PREDICTABLE pattern of doing so

they don't agree
they don't think
they don't like

ok ... but WE DID NOT ASK

and i feel bad for the kind hearted souls who give them time and consideration

it only drains them ... and THAT was the purpose of that

when the ONLY APPROPRIATE RESPONSE is

to LET THAT BE THEIR PROBLEM

because i assure you , it MOST decidedly is NOT OURS

nor should it be OUR CONCERN

[iota]

PS

HATE is very revealing of who you ARE

you are free to choose it for YOURSELF

but don't advocate it for another

and have the callous audacity to attempt ridicule someone for choosing otherwise

no apology begins to justify it

[Mypos]

Can someone give me any kind of explanation for people like Sidney Powel and Lin Wood ruining there reputations by saying all kinds of stuff that didnt come trough? And for what end?

I would hope that they genuinely believed what they were saying? I can't imagine they would sign sworn affidavits otherwise ?

I totally believe that. I for one totally believe and trust Sydney Powel for instance and im a pretty good judge of character i would like to think.

But then again, why did they do it? And how is it possible that nothing that they said came to pass? All the overwhelming evidence? Etc. Im really struggling here to understand it.

[TargeT]

But then again, why did they do it? And how is it possible that nothing that they said came to pass? All the overwhelming evidence? Etc. Im really struggling here to understand it.

I have a feeling the next few days will answer that? and if not; i'm just as confused as you.

All of this is fairly confusing to me, I figured at last the vote fixing that has gone on for decades would be exposed.... but maybe it's just too big to take down? (Im still doubting that though)

I'm reserving judgement until the weekend.

[greybeard]

Can someone give me any kind of explanation for people like Sidney Powel and Lin Wood ruining there reputations by saying all kinds of stuff that didnt come trough? And for what end?

I would hope that they genuinely believed what they were saying? I can't imagine they would sign sworn affidavits otherwise ?

I totally believe that. I for one totally believe and trust Sydney Powel for instance and im a pretty good judge of character i would like to think.

But then again, why did they do it? And how is it possible that nothing that they said came to pass? All the overwhelming evidence? Etc. Im really struggling here to understand it.

You are right to trust Sidney Powell.
She will have her day in court.
The challenge has been that courts have not been willing to get involved in what they might just view as politics, not their buisness.
If the supreme court had gone ahead as requested then the situation might be quite different today.

I listened through hours of witness stating voter fraud and sworn testimonies, also expert witnesses producing graphs and others who are experts on the voter machines used. They were connected to the internet which is illegal.
That was in front of senators.
The woman who has admitted installing fake votes into machines --arrested.
Sooner or later a court will hear this.
Sidney has said she has thousands of sworn affidavits.
This is not going away in my opinion.
Chris

[Eric J (Viking)]

Not really bothered about the bickering here, and who said what.

Not really bothered about critique, and who said what

Not really bothered about what I post and who says what

What matters is truth is truth no matter what.

45882

Viking

[Zamolxe]

PS

HATE is very revealing of who you ARE

you are free to choose it for YOURSELF

but don't advocate it for another

and have the callous audacity to attempt ridicule someone for choosing otherwise

no apology begins to justify it

I completely agree that hate is not something that should be cultivated and it is a mistake to feel this way.
That's why I thanked TargeT for his comment, as I agree with this view.

I was just pointing out that there might be a certain degree of hypocrisy on this thread, as hate was "criticized" only when it was brought up in relation to the people that push disinformation and try to manipulate us. And it seemed that it wasn't an issue (except for Gracy May highliting it) when all these things were discussed:


- branding people as traitors
- wanting to hang them
- wanting to send them to FEMA camps
- wanting to send them to Guantanamo,
- have them go through ad-hoc military tribunals
- storming the Captiol for "trial by combat"


You seem to have a lot of anger inside of you. I truly wish that you can get past the cognitive dissonance that is kicking in, now that you have realised that you have been conned all this time.
Only after you are aware of its signs, can you accept it and try to heal:
-Being stunned by new information.
-Misreading nefarious intent.
-Mood Swings
-Ignoring the Facts
-Regularly moving goalposts.
-Yelling or getting angry.
-Attacking someone's character.

And I do hope that you can evolve and channel your energy towards positive actions, because we need fighters like yourself...

[Sue (Ayt)]

Part of an email from Senator John Boozman dated yesterday:

"Many Americans are concerned about the integrity of the 2020 election. I too share the belief that allegations of irregularities and fraud need to be investigated –– especially at a time when trust in our institutions is near an all-time low. We need to make sure that every legal vote cast is counted and we must have the ability to verify the ballots. Congress has a role in examining the concerns that have arisen and should support states’ efforts to address the security of our elections. The Senate will continue to focus attention on this issue moving forward, and I support the efforts of my colleague Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) who has introduced legislation, of which I am a cosponsor, to establish a commission to study the integrity of the 2020 election. We must ensure that all Americans have faith in our elections."

[samildamach]

Part of an email from Senator John Boozman dated yesterday:

"Many Americans are concerned about the integrity of the 2020 election. I too share the belief that allegations of irregularities and fraud need to be investigated –– especially at a time when trust in our institutions is near an all-time low. We need to make sure that every legal vote cast is counted and we must have the ability to verify the ballots. Congress has a role in examining the concerns that have arisen and should support states’ efforts to address the security of our elections. The Senate will continue to focus attention on this issue moving forward, and I support the efforts of my colleague Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) who has introduced legislation, of which I am a cosponsor, to establish a commission to study the integrity of the 2020 election. We must ensure that all Americans have faith in our elections."

When we have these sought of investigations in the u.k,ie Tony Blair for warcrimes.
They take years ,prosecutors resign unexpectaly untill the right outcome is decided apon and that's the outcome the establishment always wanted.
I would assume the outcome would be predetermined

[Zamolxe]

If Biden is inaugurated today, wouldn't it mean that all the "IT'S HAPPENING" "MAJOR ARRESTS over the next several days" "Trump will be inaugurated 100%" "5D chess behind the scenes" "Blackouts" "Italian president convicted" "Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing!" "there will be martial law and arrests and Trump will be in for another four years"
- was all BS?



We humans tend to like things wrapped up neatly in black or white boxes; sometimes we don't do so well with gray boxes. It's either going to happen as predicted or it's all BS from charlatans. It can be nothing in-between.

I've never bought into the "nothing can stop what's coming!" narrative, because it's just not realistic. There's plenty that can stop what's coming including a very successful false-flag event at the Capitol that likely altered the course of the outcome. But that doesn't mean it's all BS. It means there is a covert power struggle going on behind the scenes that filters through the distorted lens of State propaganda, alternative media analysis, and speculative podcasters, all documenting battles won and lost with the score card continually changing. This isn't Niburu, or some time-traveler's prediction that never comes to pass; in my view, the fight to save the American Republic was very real. See my post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112814-MASSIVE-FRAUD-Major-Lawsuits-to-come&p=1403258&viewfull=1#post1403258) from two weeks ago.

It should be clear to all that we are in an information war and amid one of the largest mass psyops ever waged against the people to expedite the fall of the American Republic as we know it, so in this environment we should deem no source as reliable. We are in and have been in the fog of a color revolution war for quite some time now.

As far as the podcasters and insiders and the 5-d chess narrative, we can think of those as rallying cries from the sidelines, and yes, in some cases they are only click bait for traffic--and in many cases purely fantasy. But the aim has always been to clean up the corruption and thwart a war waged against a sovereign nation.

Sometimes, it would seem, it's just too big to pull off.


Why would I believe that there is a covert power struggle pitting Trump against the deep state and satanic pedophiles, when every single prediction of these "insiders" has turned out to be a dud?
Trust is earned, not freely given.

Also, Trump has been the most powerful man in the world for the past 4 years... how long should we wait to see the accomplishments of his "fight behind the scenes"?
Because I have yet to see any single proof that he is fighting the deep state. No arrests, no nothing. After 4 years.

But when we point out facts that show he might not be draining the swamp, but actually is a swamp dweller himself, we are told that it's a 5d chess move, don't worry about it. These are not the droids that we are looking for.

It's been 4 years, I will leave a list of accomplishments here that seem to oppose our morals and principles regarding mother earth, peace, fighting big corporations and standing up for the little man.


protected Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman after killing Khashoghi because "they give us a lot of money"... seems you can buy a license to kill for the correct price
sold bombs to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and UAE despite congressional objections that it would lead to Saudis dropping bombs on civilians in Yemen
cut taxes for corporations
appointed Scott Pruitt to EPA after he dedicated his life to combating federal environment regulations and fighting for big oil
advanced construction of the Keystone XL and Dakota Access oil pipelines - Keystone XL pipeline approved by President Trump, spilled 210,000 gallons of oil near the border of South Dakota and North Dakota Nov 17 2017
rolled back offshore drilling regulations put in place after the BP Deepwater Horizon
drafted a proposal to open 94% of previously protected American shorelines to offshore drilling
authorized five companies to use seismic airguns to search for offshore oil and gas. In doing so, the administration disregarded the federal government’s estimate that airgun testing poses a threat to many marine mammals, including dolphins and whales.
nominated David Bernhardt to be Secretary of the Interior, a role responsible for the management and conservation of federal land and natural resources. A former oil lobbyist, Bernhardt played a key role in rolling back the protection of endangered species
signed executive orders that would make it easier for gas and oil companies to lay pipelines without being blocked by states citing the Clean Water Act
relaxed regulations for drilling for oil and gas off Florida’s coast, Trump’s Interior Department planned to open up drilling off the state’s coast — but not until after the November election.
Trump administration announced that it would begin selling leases for oil and gas drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a vast area of undisturbed wilderness in Alaska
eliminated an Obama-era rule that required oil and gas companies to repair methane leaks.
rolled back an Obama-era regulation that required oil companies to provide purchasing information when buying minerals from foreign governments. Concerned that oil companies would purchase oil from corrupt and violent foreign administrations, the SEC had originally said Obama’s regulation would “combat government corruption through transparency and accountability.” The repeal had long been on the oil lobby’s wish list, and will save oil industry giants about half a billion dollars per year in compliance costs
Scott Pruitt’s schedule showed he held near-daily meetings with oil lobbyists, automobile company executives, and other industry leaders, while making almost no time for environmental advocates
Scott Pruitt told a crowd at the Kentucky Farm Bureau that he would like to remove all tax credits given to wind and solar energy
signed an executive order that instructed the Bureau of Land Management to lift a moratorium on new coal mining leases for federal land
in his first budget proposal, Donald Trump boosted defense and security spending by $54 billion. He proposed slashing the budget for non-defense spending in areas like education, science, poverty programs, and environmental protection by almost the same amount
EPA would withdraw mining restrictions on Alaska’s headwaters, opening the door to a major mining facility in the area. This reversal came after an EPA study concluded the mine could decimate salmon populations in the area, and thereby harm native Alaskans whose culture depended heavily on salmon.
for the second most powerful position at the Environmental Protection Agency, Donald Trump nominated Andrew Wheeler, a long-time coal lobbyist who had served as legal counsel for some of the largest coal mining companies in America
Donald Trump and EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt moved to repeal the Clean Power Act, introduced by Obama to lower carbon dioxide emissions 32 percent by 2030
Trump called for $8.6 billion for his border wall in his budget proposal for fiscal year 2020. The same budget called for increased spending for the Department of Homeland Security and a 31% spending cut to the Environmental Protection Agency
The EPA issued the final Affordable Clean Energy Rule, which rolled back power-plant regulations established under President Obama
proposed major changes to the National Environmental Policy Act. The new rules would allow federal agencies to bypass consideration of the environmental impact of proposed infrastructure projects
EPA finalized its revised Navigable Waters Protection Rule. Under Trump, protections for many rivers, streams, and wetlands were now officially removed
Perchlorate, a toxic chemical compound used in rocket fuel, has been found to contaminate water, causing fetal and infant brain damage. The Obama administration planned to regulate the chemical, but the Environmental Protection Agency, led by Trump’s appointee Andrew Wheeler, went against the decision, saying that the regulation was “not in the public interest.”
multiple conflicts of interest either using or promoting his business through his office
kept pushing to hold the G7 summit at a Trump resort
government officials and special interest groups being hosted at trump hotels and his golf clubs. Overcharging the secret service and officials for their stay at his properties. Having Qatari, Kuweiti and Saudi delegations repeatedly organize events at his hotels, placing huge amounts of money in his pockets. Basically, they bought his influence with direct payments.
attacked syria with 59 Tomahawk missiles killed approx 100 syrians
encouraged the continuation of the bombing of Yemen declared the Houthis as terrorists
btw, before he was president he was very much pro-wars: he was for invading Lybia in 2011, he agreed to the first Gulf War, for invading North Korea:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/donald-trump-is-often-more-hawkish-than-the-washington-elites/502145/
aggression towards Iran, airstrike that killed Qassim Suleimani. Threatening sites “important to Iran & the Iranian culture”
Trump administration helped GOP donors get Syria oil deal
"Rayburn also admitted that the Trump administration had actually pushed for Delta Crescent Energy — and no other companies — to receive permission to exploit Syrian oil."
Trump Says U.S. Troops Stayed in Syria 'Because I Kept the Oil'
has pardoned four Blackwater security guards who were given lengthy prison sentences for killing 14 civilians in Baghdad in 2007, a massacre that caused international uproar
pardoned multiple corrupt politicians, donors or allies
"This administration has not only surpassed the previous one’s drone strike volume overseas, it has made the drone wars even more secretive, if that’s possible.
According to a 2018 report in The Daily Beast, Obama launched 186 drone strikes in Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan during his first two years in office. In Trump’s first two years, he launched 238."
"Trump's air strikes in Afghanistan dramatically increased civilian deaths: Report
The US's easing of restrictions on aerial strikes has led to an increase of attacks across the Middle East, Afghanistan and neighbouring countries"
U.S. national debt has ballooned under the administration of President Donald Trump, increasing by nearly $7 trillion in less than four years.
Federal spending by the Trump administration is around 6.6 percent higher than it was before he took office, equating to around $255 billion
used his final hours in office to revoke an executive order on ethics that was meant to bolster his “drain the swamp” campaign promise.
Nominating Industry Insiders From the moment he took office he continued the practice of his predecessors and continue the revolving door relationship between government and corporations
Cozy with Big Oil
Cozy with Big Pharma
Ending Investigations Into Pesticide Dangers
Making GMOs Easier To Enter the Food Supply On June 11, 2019, Trump quietly issued an executive order to “streamline” GMO regulations in the United States. The order, titled Modernizing the Regulatory Framework for Agricultural Biotechnology Products
Support of and Expansion of the 5G Roll Out. Despite opposition by thousands of scientists, doctors, researchers, activists, and health professionals, Donald Trump pushed for the expansion of 5G networks, at one time calling for 6G.
Support of the Syria False Flag Narrative
Fighting to Keep Presidential Kill List Secret
Lying to the 9/11 Victims’ Families Despite making vague statements about “finding out the truth” about 9/11, Donald Trump never used his position to challenge the official narrative surrounding the 9/11 attacks. Even worse, Trump actually lied to the victims’ family members when he promised he would get to the bottom of the Saudi involvement in 9/11. Despite the families efforts to have Trump investigate Saudi Arabia, he failed to do any meaningful investigation of one of the American government’s favorite partners.
Imprisoned an American Citizen Without Trial or Charge
Continued Support of the NDAA Indefinite Detention Clause
Attempted to Block Testimony on CIA Torture
Supporting the Persecution and Prosecution of Julian Assange & Chelsea Manning


SWAMP CREATURE PROSECUTIONS: 0

REVOCATION OF PATRIOT ACT: NO

9/11 DOMESTIC CRIMINALS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE: NO

BILL GATES, G W BUSH AND **** CHENEY BROUGHT TO JUSTICE FOR INTERNATIONAL CRIMES: NO

PARDONED JULIAN ASSANGE – EDWARD SNOWDEN PATRIOTISM RECOGNIZED: NO

BREAK-UP OF BIG TECH CENSORSHIP CRIMINAL ORGS: NO

TAX INCREASES FOR BILLIONAIRES AND MONOPOLY CORPORATIONS: NO

INVESTING IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS SUCH AS DESALINIZATION PLANTS, AMBITIOUS DOMESTIC RECYCLING PROCESS FACILITIES, SUSTAINABLE TREE FARMING ON A MASS SCALE, CONSTRUCTION OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES TO REDUCE NUCLEAR REACTOR WASTE AND RISK: NO


He also didn't "Lock her up".

[Savannah]

Not really bothered about the bickering here, and who said what.

Not really bothered about critique, and who said what

Not really bothered about what I post and who says what

What matters is truth is truth no matter what.

45882

Viking

Sometimes you need the bickering to guard the ability to bring out the truth.

[TargeT]

He also didn't "Lock her up".




Also, he did nothing good at all?

Let's not polarize too much

[iota]

@ Zamolxe

the topic is POLITICS

not me

you seem to be fixated and operating under compulsion and inability that refuses to let it go ...

and because the truths i speak are unassailable

you now turn to attack me personally?

at least you are consistent in what you spew

CONTINUING to judge, BE critical and label

it betrays YOU and your purpose

and THAT purpose does not merit further indulgence

i will leave you now to resolve any further issues you find to criticize on your own

i'm sorry ... they aren't my issues to resolve for you

PS

don't feel bad about your inability to refute my points ..

they come from a Higher place

and you would need to let go of your level of negativity to even begin to grasp them

[Strat]

Savannah, I think we're arguing apple to oranges?


You may like Mods who discourage those who start and maintain those threads and shadow ban information that is too threatening to certain controllers. You may also have a right to that, if you think easy topics will keep your forum going on its own. I will just move on like many really good people who have already left Avalon because of that.

I do not believe this exists here. I don't mean to sound butt kissy towards the mods. I just think you're alluding to a problem that doesn't exist here. I suppose we just see things differently but that's okay. At the end of the day I do believe your heart is in the right place. Take care! :)

[araucaria]

Being a man of the left, I have no particular preference for Donald Trump, but I will say this: if, as the saying goes, you get the leaders you deserve or expect, then for too long expectations have been plummeting and the quality of leadership has also plummeted. With Trump, expectations have bottomed out, and more is now expected of a leader, whoever it may be. However, this is true on both sides of the spectrum: while Trump supporters find him the best in a long time, his opponents are perfectly sure that no one less competent will ever become president. So in future, now that expectations have changed, the deserved or expected leaders are going to be better and better – but only from the standpoint of the majority. Because at this deeper level of aspirations, democracy wins out; an elite can only prosper on the downward spiral.

:)

[samildamach]

This thread has been completly and expertly derailed

[TomKat]

Part of an email from Senator John Boozman dated yesterday:

"Many Americans are concerned about the integrity of the 2020 election. I too share the belief that allegations of irregularities and fraud need to be investigated –– especially at a time when trust in our institutions is near an all-time low. We need to make sure that every legal vote cast is counted and we must have the ability to verify the ballots. Congress has a role in examining the concerns that have arisen and should support states’ efforts to address the security of our elections. The Senate will continue to focus attention on this issue moving forward, and I support the efforts of my colleague Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) who has introduced legislation, of which I am a cosponsor, to establish a commission to study the integrity of the 2020 election. We must ensure that all Americans have faith in our elections."

I smell a cover-up, like the 9/11 commission.

[TomKat]

Being a man of the left, I have no particular preference for Donald Trump, but I will say this: if, as the saying goes, you get the leaders you deserve or expect, then for too long expectations have been plummeting and the quality of leadership has also plummeted. With Trump, expectations have bottomed out, and more is now expected of a leader, whoever it may be. However, this is true on both sides of the spectrum: while Trump supporters find him the best in a long time, his opponents are perfectly sure that no one less competent will ever become president. So in future, now that expectations have changed, the deserved or expected leaders are going to be better and better – but only from the standpoint of the majority. Because at this deeper level of aspirations, democracy wins out; an elite can only prosper on the downward spiral.

:)

Good but obsolete line of thinking. There will never again be a president the CIA disapproves of. They control the machines.

[Savannah]

Savannah, I think we're arguing apple to oranges?


You may like Mods who discourage those who start and maintain those threads and shadow ban information that is too threatening to certain controllers. You may also have a right to that, if you think easy topics will keep your forum going on its own. I will just move on like many really good people who have already left Avalon because of that.

I do not believe this exists here. I don't mean to sound butt kissy towards the mods. I just think you're alluding to a problem that doesn't exist here. I suppose we just see things differently but that's okay. At the end of the day I do believe your heart is in the right place. Take care! :)

You need to catch up on Avalon history, it ALREADY happened. The Q thread was banned from public view and only recently opened. That's referred to as shadow banning. I sure your heart is in the right place also.

[samildamach]

If Biden is inaugurated today, wouldn't it mean that all the "IT'S HAPPENING" "MAJOR ARRESTS over the next several days" "Trump will be inaugurated 100%" "5D chess behind the scenes" "Blackouts" "Italian president convicted" "Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing!" "there will be martial law and arrests and Trump will be in for another four years"
- was all BS?



We humans tend to like things wrapped up neatly in black or white boxes; sometimes we don't do so well with gray boxes. It's either going to happen as predicted or it's all BS from charlatans. It can be nothing in-between.

I've never bought into the "nothing can stop what's coming!" narrative, because it's just not realistic. There's plenty that can stop what's coming including a very successful false-flag event at the Capitol that likely altered the course of the outcome. But that doesn't mean it's all BS. It means there is a covert power struggle going on behind the scenes that filters through the distorted lens of State propaganda, alternative media analysis, and speculative podcasters, all documenting battles won and lost with the score card continually changing. This isn't Niburu, or some time-traveler's prediction that never comes to pass; in my view, the fight to save the American Republic was very real. See my post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112814-MASSIVE-FRAUD-Major-Lawsuits-to-come&p=1403258&viewfull=1#post1403258) from two weeks ago.

It should be clear to all that we are in an information war and amid one of the largest mass psyops ever waged against the people to expedite the fall of the American Republic as we know it, so in this environment we should deem no source as reliable. We are in and have been in the fog of a color revolution war for quite some time now.

As far as the podcasters and insiders and the 5-d chess narrative, we can think of those as rallying cries from the sidelines, and yes, in some cases they are only click bait for traffic--and in many cases purely fantasy. But the aim has always been to clean up the corruption and thwart a war waged against a sovereign nation.

Sometimes, it would seem, it's just too big to pull off.


Why would I believe that there is a covert power struggle pitting Trump against the deep state and satanic pedophiles, when every single prediction of these "insiders" has turned out to be a dud?
Trust is earned, not freely given.

Also, Trump has been the most powerful man in the world for the past 4 years... how long should we wait to see the accomplishments of his "fight behind the scenes"?
Because I have yet to see any single proof that he is fighting the deep state. No arrests, no nothing. After 4 years.

But when we point out facts that show he might not be draining the swamp, but actually is a swamp dweller himself, we are told that it's a 5d chess move, don't worry about it. These are not the droids that we are looking for.

It's been 4 years, I will leave a list of accomplishments here that seem to oppose our morals and principles regarding mother earth, peace, fighting big corporations and standing up for the little man.


protected Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman after killing Khashoghi because "they give us a lot of money"... seems you can buy a license to kill for the correct price
sold bombs to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and UAE despite congressional objections that it would lead to Saudis dropping bombs on civilians in Yemen
cut taxes for corporations
appointed Scott Pruitt to EPA after he dedicated his life to combating federal environment regulations and fighting for big oil
advanced construction of the Keystone XL and Dakota Access oil pipelines - Keystone XL pipeline approved by President Trump, spilled 210,000 gallons of oil near the border of South Dakota and North Dakota Nov 17 2017
rolled back offshore drilling regulations put in place after the BP Deepwater Horizon
drafted a proposal to open 94% of previously protected American shorelines to offshore drilling
authorized five companies to use seismic airguns to search for offshore oil and gas. In doing so, the administration disregarded the federal government’s estimate that airgun testing poses a threat to many marine mammals, including dolphins and whales.
nominated David Bernhardt to be Secretary of the Interior, a role responsible for the management and conservation of federal land and natural resources. A former oil lobbyist, Bernhardt played a key role in rolling back the protection of endangered species
signed executive orders that would make it easier for gas and oil companies to lay pipelines without being blocked by states citing the Clean Water Act
relaxed regulations for drilling for oil and gas off Florida’s coast, Trump’s Interior Department planned to open up drilling off the state’s coast — but not until after the November election.
Trump administration announced that it would begin selling leases for oil and gas drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a vast area of undisturbed wilderness in Alaska
eliminated an Obama-era rule that required oil and gas companies to repair methane leaks.
rolled back an Obama-era regulation that required oil companies to provide purchasing information when buying minerals from foreign governments. Concerned that oil companies would purchase oil from corrupt and violent foreign administrations, the SEC had originally said Obama’s regulation would “combat government corruption through transparency and accountability.” The repeal had long been on the oil lobby’s wish list, and will save oil industry giants about half a billion dollars per year in compliance costs
Scott Pruitt’s schedule showed he held near-daily meetings with oil lobbyists, automobile company executives, and other industry leaders, while making almost no time for environmental advocates
Scott Pruitt told a crowd at the Kentucky Farm Bureau that he would like to remove all tax credits given to wind and solar energy
signed an executive order that instructed the Bureau of Land Management to lift a moratorium on new coal mining leases for federal land
in his first budget proposal, Donald Trump boosted defense and security spending by $54 billion. He proposed slashing the budget for non-defense spending in areas like education, science, poverty programs, and environmental protection by almost the same amount
EPA would withdraw mining restrictions on Alaska’s headwaters, opening the door to a major mining facility in the area. This reversal came after an EPA study concluded the mine could decimate salmon populations in the area, and thereby harm native Alaskans whose culture depended heavily on salmon.
for the second most powerful position at the Environmental Protection Agency, Donald Trump nominated Andrew Wheeler, a long-time coal lobbyist who had served as legal counsel for some of the largest coal mining companies in America
Donald Trump and EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt moved to repeal the Clean Power Act, introduced by Obama to lower carbon dioxide emissions 32 percent by 2030
Trump called for $8.6 billion for his border wall in his budget proposal for fiscal year 2020. The same budget called for increased spending for the Department of Homeland Security and a 31% spending cut to the Environmental Protection Agency
The EPA issued the final Affordable Clean Energy Rule, which rolled back power-plant regulations established under President Obama
proposed major changes to the National Environmental Policy Act. The new rules would allow federal agencies to bypass consideration of the environmental impact of proposed infrastructure projects
EPA finalized its revised Navigable Waters Protection Rule. Under Trump, protections for many rivers, streams, and wetlands were now officially removed
Perchlorate, a toxic chemical compound used in rocket fuel, has been found to contaminate water, causing fetal and infant brain damage. The Obama administration planned to regulate the chemical, but the Environmental Protection Agency, led by Trump’s appointee Andrew Wheeler, went against the decision, saying that the regulation was “not in the public interest.”
multiple conflicts of interest either using or promoting his business through his office
kept pushing to hold the G7 summit at a Trump resort
government officials and special interest groups being hosted at trump hotels and his golf clubs. Overcharging the secret service and officials for their stay at his properties. Having Qatari, Kuweiti and Saudi delegations repeatedly organize events at his hotels, placing huge amounts of money in his pockets. Basically, they bought his influence with direct payments.
attacked syria with 59 Tomahawk missiles killed approx 100 syrians
encouraged the continuation of the bombing of Yemen declared the Houthis as terrorists
btw, before he was president he was very much pro-wars: he was for invading Lybia in 2011, he agreed to the first Gulf War, for invading North Korea:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/donald-trump-is-often-more-hawkish-than-the-washington-elites/502145/
aggression towards Iran, airstrike that killed Qassim Suleimani. Threatening sites “important to Iran & the Iranian culture”
Trump administration helped GOP donors get Syria oil deal
"Rayburn also admitted that the Trump administration had actually pushed for Delta Crescent Energy — and no other companies — to receive permission to exploit Syrian oil."
Trump Says U.S. Troops Stayed in Syria 'Because I Kept the Oil'
has pardoned four Blackwater security guards who were given lengthy prison sentences for killing 14 civilians in Baghdad in 2007, a massacre that caused international uproar
pardoned multiple corrupt politicians, donors or allies
"This administration has not only surpassed the previous one’s drone strike volume overseas, it has made the drone wars even more secretive, if that’s possible.
According to a 2018 report in The Daily Beast, Obama launched 186 drone strikes in Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan during his first two years in office. In Trump’s first two years, he launched 238."
"Trump's air strikes in Afghanistan dramatically increased civilian deaths: Report
The US's easing of restrictions on aerial strikes has led to an increase of attacks across the Middle East, Afghanistan and neighbouring countries"
U.S. national debt has ballooned under the administration of President Donald Trump, increasing by nearly $7 trillion in less than four years.
Federal spending by the Trump administration is around 6.6 percent higher than it was before he took office, equating to around $255 billion
used his final hours in office to revoke an executive order on ethics that was meant to bolster his “drain the swamp” campaign promise.
Nominating Industry Insiders From the moment he took office he continued the practice of his predecessors and continue the revolving door relationship between government and corporations
Cozy with Big Oil
Cozy with Big Pharma
Ending Investigations Into Pesticide Dangers
Making GMOs Easier To Enter the Food Supply On June 11, 2019, Trump quietly issued an executive order to “streamline” GMO regulations in the United States. The order, titled Modernizing the Regulatory Framework for Agricultural Biotechnology Products
Support of and Expansion of the 5G Roll Out. Despite opposition by thousands of scientists, doctors, researchers, activists, and health professionals, Donald Trump pushed for the expansion of 5G networks, at one time calling for 6G.
Support of the Syria False Flag Narrative
Fighting to Keep Presidential Kill List Secret
Lying to the 9/11 Victims’ Families Despite making vague statements about “finding out the truth” about 9/11, Donald Trump never used his position to challenge the official narrative surrounding the 9/11 attacks. Even worse, Trump actually lied to the victims’ family members when he promised he would get to the bottom of the Saudi involvement in 9/11. Despite the families efforts to have Trump investigate Saudi Arabia, he failed to do any meaningful investigation of one of the American government’s favorite partners.
Imprisoned an American Citizen Without Trial or Charge
Continued Support of the NDAA Indefinite Detention Clause
Attempted to Block Testimony on CIA Torture
Supporting the Persecution and Prosecution of Julian Assange & Chelsea Manning


SWAMP CREATURE PROSECUTIONS: 0

REVOCATION OF PATRIOT ACT: NO

9/11 DOMESTIC CRIMINALS BROUGHT TO JUSTICE: NO

BILL GATES, G W BUSH AND **** CHENEY BROUGHT TO JUSTICE FOR INTERNATIONAL CRIMES: NO

PARDONED JULIAN ASSANGE – EDWARD SNOWDEN PATRIOTISM RECOGNIZED: NO

BREAK-UP OF BIG TECH CENSORSHIP CRIMINAL ORGS: NO

TAX INCREASES FOR BILLIONAIRES AND MONOPOLY CORPORATIONS: NO

INVESTING IN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS SUCH AS DESALINIZATION PLANTS, AMBITIOUS DOMESTIC RECYCLING PROCESS FACILITIES, SUSTAINABLE TREE FARMING ON A MASS SCALE, CONSTRUCTION OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES TO REDUCE NUCLEAR REACTOR WASTE AND RISK: NO


He also didn't "Lock her up".

would be better if this had it's own thread there is a lot of info to digest and most deserves its own disscusion. Have you the link to the main piece?

[Savannah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP6Ltb4V5Ds

DON'T BE FOOLED. THIS IS NOT OVER

Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.

Perceive that which cannot be seen with the eye.

From one thing, know 10,000 things.

When you have attained the way of strategy there will be nothing that you cannot understand. You will see the way in everything.

It is imperative to master the principles of the art of war and learn to be unmoved in mind even in the heat of the battle.

Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death.Even if a man has no natural ability, he can be a warrior.

No man is invincible, and therefore no man can fully understand that which would make him invincible. Even with complete and thorough study there is always the possibility of being defeated and although one may be expert in a particular form, mastery is something a man never stops seeking to attain.

People in this world look at things mistakenly, and think that what they do not understand must be the void. This is not the true void. It is bewilderment.

- Miyamoto Musashi

[Eric J (Viking)]

The Biggest Bitch In Britain Sounds Off On D.C. Police State (Video)

Katie Hopkins says it how it is...

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=49000

Viking

[araucaria]

Being a man of the left, I have no particular preference for Donald Trump, but I will say this: if, as the saying goes, you get the leaders you deserve or expect, then for too long expectations have been plummeting and the quality of leadership has also plummeted. With Trump, expectations have bottomed out, and more is now expected of a leader, whoever it may be. However, this is true on both sides of the spectrum: while Trump supporters find him the best in a long time, his opponents are perfectly sure that no one less competent will ever become president. So in future, now that expectations have changed, the deserved or expected leaders are going to be better and better – but only from the standpoint of the majority. Because at this deeper level of aspirations, democracy wins out; an elite can only prosper on the downward spiral.

:)

Good but obsolete line of thinking. There will never again be a president the CIA disapproves of. They control the machines.
Sure, you set out the battle lines, but you prejudge the outcome on the basis of the last sixty years of the CIA ditching the president; nevertheless the struggle is still about ditching the CIA.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Update Marshall report

D.C. is fenced off and the President is never going back to the White House. But not for reasons you may be thinking.


Fear not, there will be a new capitol built and an end to income taxes paid to the tax collectors of the Corporation that is now in the hands of a new administration. They went to all the trouble to steal a corporation whose assetts are in the process of being seized. Most did not see this coming for they did not even know their nation was a Corporation. But, it is indeed but now, no more are the states subject to it. Please read on to understand the nature of the battle we are in.

Further interesting reading

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/trump-ode-to-the-corporation/

Viking

[Merkaba360]

Update Marshall report

D.C. is fenced off and the President is never going back to the White House. But not for reasons you may be thinking.


Fear not, there will be a new capitol built and an end to income taxes paid to the tax collectors of the Corporation that is now in the hands of a new administration. They went to all the trouble to steal a corporation whose assetts are in the process of being seized. Most did not see this coming for they did not even know their nation was a Corporation. But, it is indeed but now, no more are the states subject to it. Please read on to understand the nature of the battle we are in.

Further interesting reading

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/trump-ode-to-the-corporation/

Viking

That's quite interesting Viking and makes a lot of sense so far, as im not done reading it. Who knows, cuz nothing is at it appears ay? We can wait and see and let them do their thing.

Is the soap opera continuing to string us along or do we have a miracle occurring lol.

Its really only possible to understand politics if we fully understand the Law and Macroeconomics. And it is really nearly impossible to understand all that complexity, especially since its not all available to the public.

It would be funny if D.C became a foreign country/district. Then let them keep up their shenanigans so we can declare war on them lol. Biden is their commander in chief. Sure that would go well. lol

Oh and who was it that predicted there would be 2 presidents for some time? I read that somewhere, maybe on this site during the "too much information" overload. Weird. I thought that impossible, but this would be how that could happen.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Lin Wood Special Broadcast: A Process WILL Play Out To Put President Trump Back In Office!


https://thetruedefender.com/lin-wood-special-broadcast-a-process-will-play-out-to-put-president-trump-back-in-office/

Viking

[TomKat]

Sure, you set out the battle lines, but you prejudge the outcome on the basis of the last sixty years of the CIA ditching the president; nevertheless the struggle is still about ditching the CIA.

Oh sure, a CIA-picked president is going to ditch the CIA!

¤=[Post Update]=¤



Update Marshall report

D.C. is fenced off and the President is never going back to the White House. But not for reasons you may be thinking.


Fear not, there will be a new capitol built and an end to income taxes paid to the tax collectors of the Corporation that is now in the hands of a new administration. They went to all the trouble to steal a corporation whose assetts are in the process of being seized. Most did not see this coming for they did not even know their nation was a Corporation. But, it is indeed but now, no more are the states subject to it. Please read on to understand the nature of the battle we are in.

Further interesting reading

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/trump-ode-to-the-corporation/

Viking

That's quite interesting Viking and makes a lot of sense so far, as im not done reading it. Who knows, cuz nothing is at it appears ay? We can wait and see and let them do their thing.

Is the soap opera continuing to string us along or do we have a miracle occurring lol.

Its really only possible to understand politics if we fully understand the Law and Macroeconomics. And it is really nearly impossible to understand all that complexity, especially since its not all available to the public.

It would be funny if D.C became a foreign country/district. Then let them keep up their shenanigans so we can declare war on them lol. Biden is their commander in chief. Sure that would go well. lol

Oh and who was it that predicted there would be 2 presidents for some time? I read that somewhere, maybe on this site during the "too much information" overload. Weird. I thought that impossible, but this would be how that could happen.

I guess if all this is true, you can stop paying your taxes? Let us know how that works out for you!

[ramus]

Lin Wood Special Broadcast: A Process WILL Play Out To Put President Trump Back In Office!


https://thetruedefender.com/lin-wood-special-broadcast-a-process-will-play-out-to-put-president-trump-back-in-office/

Viking
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Link doesn't work any other one?

[TargeT]

Lin Wood Special Broadcast: A Process WILL Play Out To Put President Trump Back In Office!


https://thetruedefender.com/lin-wood-special-broadcast-a-process-will-play-out-to-put-president-trump-back-in-office/

Viking
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Link doesn't work any other one?

works for me?

[araucaria]

Sure, you set out the battle lines, but you prejudge the outcome on the basis of the last sixty years of the CIA ditching the president; nevertheless the struggle is still about ditching the CIA.

Oh sure, a CIA-picked president is going to ditch the CIA![COLOR="red"]

That's not what I wrote is it? Over and out.

[ramus]

Lin Wood Special Broadcast: A Process WILL Play Out To Put President Trump Back In Office!


https://thetruedefender.com/lin-wood-special-broadcast-a-process-will-play-out-to-put-president-trump-back-in-office/

Viking
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Link doesn't work any other one?

works for me?

I guess I've been targeted ......lol ...... Been trying different ways to get to it ... I'll find one

[ramus]

Lin Wood Special Broadcast: A Process WILL Play Out To Put President Trump Back In Office!


https://thetruedefender.com/lin-wood-special-broadcast-a-process-will-play-out-to-put-president-trump-back-in-office/

Viking
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Link doesn't work any other one?

works for me?

I guess I've been targeted ......lol ...... Been trying different ways to get to it ... I'll find one


Found one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWuN3oa_AU0

I guess I wasn't targeted after all

[Merkaba360]

Sure, you set out the battle lines, but you prejudge the outcome on the basis of the last sixty years of the CIA ditching the president; nevertheless the struggle is still about ditching the CIA.

Oh sure, a CIA-picked president is going to ditch the CIA!

¤=[Post Update]=¤



Update Marshall report

D.C. is fenced off and the President is never going back to the White House. But not for reasons you may be thinking.


Fear not, there will be a new capitol built and an end to income taxes paid to the tax collectors of the Corporation that is now in the hands of a new administration. They went to all the trouble to steal a corporation whose assetts are in the process of being seized. Most did not see this coming for they did not even know their nation was a Corporation. But, it is indeed but now, no more are the states subject to it. Please read on to understand the nature of the battle we are in.

Further interesting reading

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/trump-ode-to-the-corporation/

Viking

That's quite interesting Viking and makes a lot of sense so far, as im not done reading it. Who knows, cuz nothing is at it appears ay? We can wait and see and let them do their thing.

Is the soap opera continuing to string us along or do we have a miracle occurring lol.

Its really only possible to understand politics if we fully understand the Law and Macroeconomics. And it is really nearly impossible to understand all that complexity, especially since its not all available to the public.

It would be funny if D.C became a foreign country/district. Then let them keep up their shenanigans so we can declare war on them lol. Biden is their commander in chief. Sure that would go well. lol

Oh and who was it that predicted there would be 2 presidents for some time? I read that somewhere, maybe on this site during the "too much information" overload. Weird. I thought that impossible, but this would be how that could happen.

I guess if all this is true, you can stop paying your taxes? Let us know how that works out for you!

Not at all. It would have to be fully developed and established into a pre-1871 government in order to stop paying taxes. Of course, its probably a hail mary for it to be "the plan". lol However, if Trump really is for the people, the outcome didn't really make sense.

This is one interesting document (assuming its legitimate) from the TRump campaign. Trumps 2021 Inauguration at Mar-a-lago. He actually went there after leaving the white house. He specifically calls it the "Winter White House." I guess that would be where he would build up his cabinet for reinstating the original republic if the military backed him.

It also says that he will not concede and will not leave the white house before the 20th, but I guess will on the 20th as he did. He said they must remove him by force even though he is leaving D.C. In other words it would take the police/military to do that. So who knows who the top military brass supports even if the majority of the troops support Trump. If they are neutral and trump starts his own thing with the militias backing him, then I assume the military will have to choose to take a side. Will they kill the militia men?

Of course if Trump is just part of the theatre this is all nonsense, but hey we can have fun now, enjoy the show bring up ideas and believe nothing. lol


45902

[Savannah]

The Biggest Bitch In Britain Sounds Off On D.C. Police State (Video)

Katie Hopkins says it how it is...

http://stateofthenation.co/?p=49000

Viking

I love what she said about countering the globalists that we will "build back stronger" in contrast to their build back better. Use their rhetoric right back at at them. There is a saying about being careful about waking the American giant, I think they have awoken the the real truthers and we will fight back stronger and more determined to bring in the light.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIBB1_XfpvA


This is a long video and about many topics, but at the end she talks about the election and says to the effect that we win no matter what the controllers do. The more they attack us the stronger we get and we actually wake faster if that that timeline, so we win either way.

[greybeard]

Understand the nature of the battle we are in

https://gesara.news/battle/


The Corporation called Washington D.C. is now a foreign entity on American soil of sovereign states.
It was established through a loan from the Vatican when D.C. was transferred into a city-state and this corporate entity.
It is now under siege for interfering with the elections of We The People of the United States along with the Vatican and the other foreign nations who interfered, such as Germany, Italy, China, et al.
They are now an enemy of the state and their assets shall be seized.
Our military has already been taking down the giant as we have witnessed while all eyes were set on the voter fraud.
The forming of this corporation in D.C. is of major importance to understand, for when President Trump signed an executive order in 2018 on Election Interference/Fraud for entities both foreign and domestic, it outlined how assets would be seized.
Please read on to understand the nature of the battle we are in. This article is a good primer for those that are becoming aware.
Sources: Themarshallreport
Read also: Defunct US Inc
Governments resign worldwid

May be so --discression required --smiling
Chris

[iota]

Being a man of the left, I have no particular preference for Donald Trump, but I will say this: if, as the saying goes, you get the leaders you deserve or expect, then for too long expectations have been plummeting and the quality of leadership has also plummeted. With Trump, expectations have bottomed out, and more is now expected of a leader, whoever it may be. However, this is true on both sides of the spectrum: while Trump supporters find him the best in a long time, his opponents are perfectly sure that no one less competent will ever become president. So in future, now that expectations have changed, the deserved or expected leaders are going to be better and better – but only from the standpoint of the majority. Because at this deeper level of aspirations, democracy wins out; an elite can only prosper on the downward spiral.

:)

Good but obsolete line of thinking. There will never again be a president the CIA disapproves of. They control the machines.

i CANCEL this statement COMPLETELY

it is precisely THIS type of thought (and NON action) that WOULD generate such a disastrous outcome

instead, i will do ALL in my power to see to it that it is nothing more than just ANOTHER of your habitual negative outpouring btw

[Savannah]

Lin Wood Special Broadcast: A Process WILL Play Out To Put President Trump Back In Office!


https://thetruedefender.com/lin-wood-special-broadcast-a-process-will-play-out-to-put-president-trump-back-in-office/

Viking
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Link doesn't work any other one?

scroll down to the bottom and the interview is there

[iota]

so now this ...


https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2020/09/24/Senate_Homeland_Security_76105.jpg-23e41_c0-0-5149-3002_s885x516.jpg?ce05abcdeac359339570c88fa64485762955a8e9


Biden to keep Wray as FBI director: Report

the Washington Times reports:

Presumptive President-elect Joseph R. Biden will keep Christopher A. Wray as his FBI head unless President Trump fires him before he takes over, according to a report Thursday.

Citing a senior Biden official, The New York Times reported that the new administration is “not removing” the FBI director.

Typically, FBI directors serve their full 10-year terms, although Mr. Trump fired ex-FBI Director James B. Comey in 2017, with six years remaining on his tenure.

source here (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/3/joe-biden-keep-christopher-wray-fbi-director-repor/)

and this


https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1351948204657569793

i think if we observe and note closely, soon the weasels of betrayal will "out" themselves quietly ...

for now? seems Pompeo is indeed one of the "good" guys ...

i thought so

:shielddeflect:

[greybeard]

Lin Wood Special Broadcast: A Process WILL Play Out To Put President Trump Back In Office!


https://thetruedefender.com/lin-wood-special-broadcast-a-process-will-play-out-to-put-president-trump-back-in-office/

Viking
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Link doesn't work any other one?

scroll down to the bottom and the interview is there

Its a couple of days old and was posted back then but no matter it is still valid.
Chris

[Savannah]

Sure, you set out the battle lines, but you prejudge the outcome on the basis of the last sixty years of the CIA ditching the president; nevertheless the struggle is still about ditching the CIA.

Oh sure, a CIA-picked president is going to ditch the CIA!

¤=[Post Update]=¤



Update Marshall report

D.C. is fenced off and the President is never going back to the White House. But not for reasons you may be thinking.


Fear not, there will be a new capitol built and an end to income taxes paid to the tax collectors of the Corporation that is now in the hands of a new administration. They went to all the trouble to steal a corporation whose assetts are in the process of being seized. Most did not see this coming for they did not even know their nation was a Corporation. But, it is indeed but now, no more are the states subject to it. Please read on to understand the nature of the battle we are in.

Further interesting reading

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/trump-ode-to-the-corporation/

Viking

That's quite interesting Viking and makes a lot of sense so far, as im not done reading it. Who knows, cuz nothing is at it appears ay? We can wait and see and let them do their thing.

Is the soap opera continuing to string us along or do we have a miracle occurring lol.

Its really only possible to understand politics if we fully understand the Law and Macroeconomics. And it is really nearly impossible to understand all that complexity, especially since its not all available to the public.

It would be funny if D.C became a foreign country/district. Then let them keep up their shenanigans so we can declare war on them lol. Biden is their commander in chief. Sure that would go well. lol

Oh and who was it that predicted there would be 2 presidents for some time? I read that somewhere, maybe on this site during the "too much information" overload. Weird. I thought that impossible, but this would be how that could happen.

I guess if all this is true, you can stop paying your taxes? Let us know how that works out for you!

Not at all. It would have to be fully developed and established into a pre-1871 government in order to stop paying taxes. Of course, its probably a hail mary for it to be "the plan". lol However, if Trump really is for the people, the outcome didn't really make sense.

This is one interesting document (assuming its legitimate) from the TRump campaign. Trumps 2021 Inauguration at Mar-a-lago. He actually went there after leaving the white house. He specifically calls it the "Winter White House." I guess that would be where he would build up his cabinet for reinstating the original republic if the military backed him.

It also says that he will not concede and will not leave the white house before the 20th, but I guess will on the 20th as he did. He said they must remove him by force even though he is leaving D.C. In other words it would take the police/military to do that. So who knows who the top military brass supports even if the majority of the troops support Trump. If they are neutral and trump starts his own thing with the militias backing him, then I assume the military will have to choose to take a side. Will they kill the militia men?

Of course if Trump is just part of the theatre this is all nonsense, but hey we can have fun now, enjoy the show bring up ideas and believe nothing. lol


45902

This is consistent with all the psychics who said for a while there would be two presidents.

[iota]

This is consistent with all the psychics who said for a while there would be two presidents.

oh THAT's come true already

there ARE

the LEGITIMATE, though unrecognized, DULY elected one ~ Trump

and the ILLEGITIMATE, though through massive hypnosis of masses by the media, that got sworn in ~ Biden

but the TRUTH? STILL stands .. Trump WAS elected our President

we cannot lose sight or memory of that

:shielddeflect:

PS

wow, i just realized ... the psychics WERE right! ...

by saying that? they TOLD us Biden would be sworn in!

how else would we have had two?

hmm ... so i guess they "got it right" after all!

:sun:

[Journeyman]

https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/12649233.html#q12649885

Unsourced post on 8kun that caught my attention. See the part about filing in London 18 months ago:

45903

[greybeard]

https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/12649233.html#q12649885

Unsourced post on 8kun that caught my attention. See the part about filing in London 18 months ago:

45903

Charlie Ward mentioned this in one of his videos some time back -- I thought --doubt it.
May be so.
Chris

[TomKat]

Good but obsolete line of thinking. There will never again be a president the CIA disapproves of. They control the machines.

i CANCEL this statement COMPLETELY

it is precisely THIS type of thought (and NON action) that WOULD generate such a disastrous outcome

instead, i will do ALL in my power to see to it that it is nothing more than just ANOTHER of your habitual negative outpouring btw

And you're going to do WHAT about the CIA? Vote for a president to get rid of them? Nope, that didn't work. Even though he got 4 years, they had enough blackmail material on him that he did absolutely nothing that might embarrass or expose the deep state. Didn't even pardon Assange or Snowden who laid the groundwork for his protest candidacy. And then, when he won by an electoral college landslide, they took that away from him, easy peasy, no muss, no fuss, life goes on.... NEXT!