My initial observation of my town since Biden declared the president elect

[thepainterdoug]

I live in a democratic state and small town out side NYC. I drove thru it today, sat outside and joined a group of strangers for a beer and got a feel for the town in general.

There was no over celebration or anything liked that. But it was calm, happy and peaceful far as I could tell. There was a general feeling of relief, that its over!

"Perception "is the word that kept talking to me. How true it is, that it is not truth, but perception of truth that governs people.

First off, my feeling is Trump supporters are generally more kind, friendly and tolerant.They are less likely to create violence or cause a fight over this result which is highly disappointing to them. I doubt this would be true the other way around.

Trump supporters will accept and do their best to move on. This is so radically NOT the perception from non Trump people towards trump supporters.

Perception of Trump, is what people go by. If I gave an actual list of facts on paper of what he accomplished without saying who did it, most people would say hey wow, thats great.
Many may say, wow, was that Obama? Clinton

But the perception of who Trump is, nullifies all these good things. It amazes me.
No War in 4 years alone is a first! amazing, let alone things like a bill for Autism, for The Native Americans, for prison and crime reform, bringing Israel and Arab nations a little closer, bringing jobs home , energy independence, gas at 2$, well, the list is quite long.

But its perception that matters. He is perceived, and I credit the corrupt and biased media and tech companies for this, as being unlikeable, a racist , another hitler and so on.

So maybe this is how it needs to go. Just the violent unrest being cancelled alone will be worth it in short term.

But wait till reality hits. What door has now been opened, that will not be so easy to close.

Anyone remember what Nakita Kruschchev said? "we will bury you"
.
Not with bombs, you will do it yourself

[East Sun]

Thanks Doug, I think it's not over yet. There will be back and fourth as Trump does not take no as an
answer. The higher echelon who really decide in advance, will have their way.

Well, that's how I see it at this point.

[frodo13]

Sorry but perception is in the eye of the beholder. Trump spewed hatred of anyone not of his core group and did everything he could to divide the county. Look at his tweets and tell me he thought of anyone but himself. He is a classic narcissist and will not except defeat because it is not in his nature.I have a son who has down syndrome and the thing that turned me off to him the most was when he mocked a reporter who had a disability. There are two types of people in this world, those who care about others and those who only care about themselves. I am glad this election is over because the rest of the world was laughing at the U.S. with him as our leader.

[norman]

Actually, it's not true to say Trump didn't start any new wars.

He did.

A really big one. It ain't over yet, any more than the London Blitz was the end of WW2. We're about 4.5 years into this one. WW2 lasted 6.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I'd love to look at his tweets, I'd also like everyone to be able to, but, alas, his tweets are blocked. Or I'd like more to have the media televise THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ADDRESS THE PEOPLE.

He has been shadow banned and has no voice. This alone is unacceptable. One side has been effectively silenced.

Even more to the point, the media has declared the winner of the office of President of the United States. Is this where we have descended to? Is the media now the arbiter of government? Are they the official narrative, whether the president approves or not is of no consequence? We do not need to know the facts, so we can decide for ourselves? We just get the one side of the story, broadcast far and wide, while the other side has to use alternate sources with limited exposure?

For four years the president has been hobbled by the media and mired in legal battles for his very freedom, and perhaps his life. Is this how the land of the free comports itself?

And then to have an election turned into this display of fraudulent and treasonous complicity between big tech, the media, and the democratic party is a joke. Very few, in their hearts believe this election was fair. Most know it was fixed from long ago, perhaps since the day Trump was elected and before when the writing was already on the wall.

America, if this election and the entire Trump saga is not addressed, you may as well start growing bananas...

[East Sun]

Unfortunately there are two sides to what we have to decide.
We may hate a President because of his personality and being egotistical or greedy or
what ever but agree with what is best for the country.

Also there is always the other side, who may be a hell of a lot worse as we have seen in
recent past, not to mention names.

Just my take on things.

[thepainterdoug]

Frodo13 and the rest of the world isnt laughable?

i go by his accomplishments, i dont give a crap about his bedside manner.

a complete outsider non politician PT Barnum blew them all away

[frodo13]

10 or so of his pals are in prison for various crimes from money laundering to bank fraud to illegal campaign payoffs. Trump came from the swamp of Wall Street which is a as bad if not worse than the DC SWAMP. Corruption is his middle name, he will be in prison within the year. He is the unnamed defendant in a lot of those case. Muller didn"t bring charges against him because he is a sitting president. He is a Russian puppet and is was doing there work of undermining our democratic system for him. Google negative things Trump has said about Putin it is a short list.

[sandyinatlanta]

Thank you Painter Doug and Frodo 13 for your observations. I personally didn't want any of the old white men for president, Trump, Sanders or Biden. I think it is time for a younger generation to lead this country.

However, I do believe Joe Biden is a decent, compassionate man who will do the best he can to move this country forward in a positive way. We should all give him a chance. As American citizens that's the least we can do.

There has been way too much hate and drama in our country in the last few years. It's time we all do our own part, no matter how small, to bring some peace and stability to the world around our everyday life.

[pyrangello]

I'm on board with painter Doug and trumps accomplishments. Anybody that thinks that Washington dc is a play by the rules town hasn't got off the merry go round at the carnival. Trump and his entire family and friends have been harassed since before he was even sworn in. Remember the Congress woman who said when President Trump was President elect, we need to impeach the mother fxxxxx. As for the prestigious Mueller investigation that got paid over 30 million, if they were so holier than art thou why did all of the Mueller team wipe all of their cell phones clean before they turned them in. President trump is not a polished politician, he's an American citizen who doesn't drink or smoke, who stepped away from his business to make America great again,he's a father grandfather, and a husband to one of the most successful and accomplished first ladies we have had in a long time.president Trump speaks with all of his kids everyday. And he donated his entire salary to charitable organizations since he became President. I own a small business and I can tell you my business as well as many others have been doing great since Trump got in office that was until this virus hit. You can't deny prior to this virus even minority unemployment were at the lowest levels in 50 years. None of us had to like or even agree with President trump , but riding this wave of making America great again felt pretty good.

[T Smith]

I was wondering where to post the following sentiments; this thread is as good as any.

To be blunt, the United States is on the verge of Civil War, whether those walking around who are oblivious to this reality realize it or not. The country was a polarized powder keg before the election; pushing the false narrative that Biden has won the Presidency is nothing short of treason.

First, in response to Frodo13, and contrary to the contrived narrative, Trump did not divide the country. Donald Trump usurped power unexpectedly and blindsided an established power structure caught off guard. In other words, the election of Donald Trump was a Black Swan event in their world, and ever since November 8, 2016, they have been engaged in a psyop on the people and have been on offense to rectify the DJT assault on their power domaine accustomed to installing puppet Presidents. This should be abundantly clear to anyone paying attention. The media, i.e., the lapdogs and public relations networks employed by this power structure to fashion public sentiment to serve their agenda, divided the country. By design. So those like Frodo13 would insist on removing the offensive item. The Usurper in Chief.

Let me be clear. Those detractors and enemies of Donald Trump are enemies and detractors of we the people. Period.

I can think of no better example to support the statement above than to point out what the MSM has done by prematurely declaring Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 election. The execution of the current psyop on the people perpetrated by the MSM is nothing short of crimes against humanity and treasonous. Why? Because it will very likely lead to violence and Civil War. There are millions and millions of people who are still influenced and under the spell of the mind-control MSM program who now believe Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States. Can we stop for a minute to think about this? How dangerous is this? You think the country was divided before? God help us. When those millions of automatons learn that Hitler-incarnate is stealing the election from Biden, after MSM allowed them to celebrate in the streets, there will be Biblical consequences. There may be a succession of States, headed by Nancy Pelosi et. al, and possibly a formal military deployment to engage a 2nd American Civil War.

This, or course, is a win/win for TPTB who want an American Civil War. If the courts side with Trump (and they quite possibly will--election fraud is off the charts, without which Trump won in a landslide)--those whose minds are controlled by the MSM narrative who believe Joe Biden is the lawful President will blow a gasket. If Biden's criminal cartel prevails, the first thing we will see in the agenda of gutting the American Republic and executing the NWO Reset will be a series of mass shootings, which will galvanize public support to eliminate the 2nd Amendment. This, of course, is the line in the sand for that sea of red (https://mobile.twitter.com/Maximus_4EVR/status/1324858020979879936) that is the vast majority of the American Republic.

Either scenario, Civll War is nearly impossible to avoid. The MSM has just fomented the inevitable, for which they are criminally culpable. If/when the dust settles, and if we the people are still standing and not slaves, we MUST hold them accountable.

[pyrangello]

I would agree with everything sandy in Atlanta said but let's go back to the core bush election, it took 36 days to settle the results to make sure we had a fair and accurate election count of the American people. It's only day 4 since the election and the news media is in a rush to close the door and slam it shut on the actual voting totals of the American people . Just yesterday it was announced in a county just north of where I live that 6000 votes switched to Biden instead of Trump, and what's worse is that same software to count votes were used in all swing states And over 50 counties here in Michigan . None of us have seen rallies in all states like the Trump rallies . 50,000 plus attended rallies in Michigan and Pennsylvania, 6 miles of cars in Arizona. Biden had nobody showing up. For the purpose of fair and honest elections at this point we need to let the legal process take place and not the media deciding who is President. Once that has been done I will respect whoever is elected president. To not follow that process is a disgrace to all who have given their life for our country so we can live in a free and open society of the usa.

[Mike Gorman]

As Trump himself has stated: The media does not choose the president, the people do. Don't be herded into this false perception, the election is invalidated by the level of criminal malpractice, observers being excluded from counting, mass ballots which are 100% Biden votes being secreted in with the rest. Why was the counting called off at a given point, only later to re-start with a surprising boost in Biden votes? There are too many anomalies. Just because the rioting and violence has been called off don't be falsely assured. Are American people truly democratic, or will they accept this obvious sham? I am disgusted, I feel sick, I cannot stand this outrageous calamity, this is a very tragic time for the world.

[Mike Gorman]

I was wondering where to post the following sentiments; this thread is as good as any.

To be blunt, the United States is on the verge of Civil War, whether those walking around who are oblivious to this reality realize it or not. The country was a polarized powder keg before the election; pushing the false narrative that Biden has won the Presidency is nothing short of treason.

First, in response to Frodo13, and contrary to the contrived narrative, Trump did not divide the country. Donald Trump usurped power unexpectedly and blindsided an established power structure caught off guard. In other words, the election of Donald Trump was a Black Swan event in their world, and ever since November 8, 2016, they have been engaged in a psyop on the people and have been on offense to rectify the DJT assault on their power domaine accustomed to installing puppet Presidents. This should be abundantly clear to anyone paying attention. The media, i.e., the lapdogs and public relations networks employed by this power structure to fashion public sentiment to serve their agenda, divided the country. By design. So those like Frodo13 would insist on removing the offensive item. The Usurper in Chief.

Let me be clear. Those detractors and enemies of Donald Trump are enemies and detractors of we the people. Period.

I can think of no better example to support the statement above than to point out what the MSM has done by prematurely declaring Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 election. The execution of the current psyop on the people perpetrated by the MSM is nothing short of crimes against humanity and treasonous. Why? Because it will very likely lead to violence and Civil War. There are millions and millions of people who are still influenced and under the spell of the mind-control MSM program who now believe Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States. Can we stop for a minute to think about this? How dangerous is this? You think the country was divided before? God help us. When those millions of automatons learn that Hitler-incarnate is stealing the election from Biden, after MSM allowed them to celebrate in the streets, there will be Biblical consequences. There may be a succession of States, headed by Nancy Pelosi et. al, and possibly a formal military deployment to engage a 2nd American Civil War.

This, or course, is a win/win for TPTB who want an American Civil War. If the courts side with Trump (and they quite possibly will--election fraud is off the charts, without which Trump won in a landslide)--those whose minds are controlled by the MSM narrative who believe Joe Biden is the lawful President will blow a gasket. If Biden's criminal cartel prevails, the first thing we will see in the agenda of gutting the American Republic and executing the NWO Reset will be a series of mass shootings, which will galvanize public support to eliminate the 2nd Amendment. This, of course, is the line in the sand for that sea of red (https://mobile.twitter.com/Maximus_4EVR/status/1324858020979879936) that is the vast majority of the American Republic.

Either scenario, Civll War is nearly impossible to avoid. For which the MSM is criminally culpable. If/when the dust settles, and if we the people are still standing and not slaves, we MUST hold them accountable.

Very well stated T Smith!

[Elainie]

All that is playing out now was seen by remote viewers and some insiders, going to supreme court and the players exposed. In the end Trump gets sworn in Jan.

[rgray222]

First off, my feeling is Trump supporters are generally more kind, friendly and tolerant.They are less likely to create violence or cause a fight over this result which is highly disappointing to them. I doubt this would be true the other way around.

Trump supporters will accept and do their best to move on. This is so radically NOT the perception from non Trump people towards trump supporters.

I agree with you, for the most part, Trump supporters are going to be peaceful and reluctantly accept Biden as president but several things must change.

People must have a real or perceived feeling that the election was honest. This is critical to the country moving on. Trump supporters do not and will not have that feeling without change.

Stopping the election in mid progress is wrong on so many levels, this must never be done again otherwise we will have civil unrest like we have never seen before.
Elections must be transparent and observed by both parties, no longer can Democrats lock out the opposition which is exactly what happened in this election.
We must limit mail voting, not eliminate but limit absentee ballots, have people show picture id's and purge to rolls of dead voters and illegal voters.
I think everyone including Biden supporters know that the mainstream media played a major role in this election, people will start pushing back and without change, it will get very ugly.
I think everyone knows that Google, FB and Twitter played favorites in this election. Change must be mandatory in the distribution of information.
This is more long term but something must be done about lobbyist. They are keeping the country at war and their money is corrupting the election process and has been for a long time.

No one seems to be talking about this but it going to be a real problem.
The Democrat party is about ready to go into a major civil war. There are many liberal voters that wanted to get rid of Trump but they want nothing to do with the extreme left which has grown to a sizeable number. These moderate liberals and inner-city minorities do not want to defund the police. They do not support higher taxes, higher gas prices, higher utility prices or the oil companies shut down. Many do not support the green new deal.

When (not if) Joe Biden steps down from office and Harris is installed this will cause a moment of calm but it will eventually erupt into something very ugly. She is an unlikeable person that has an extreme ideology. She couldn't even make it through the first Democrat primary election, even her own party did not support her. The problems with Harris will arise on the left -- not on the right.

If no thought is put into concessions, meaningful change and if a radical agenda is put forward all bets are off, we could then be on the brink of something that we have not been through since the 1860's.

I am working under the belief that the Democrats will successfully win this election under very suspicious circumstances.

[frodo13]

Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence. A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.The University of Loyola law professor Justin Levitt did a study of a over a billion votes from 2000 to 2014 and found 31 cases.There are safe guards in all states to protect votes. MSM has its agenda but come on folks the Republicans have filed lawsuits with many states and nothing has come of them, get a copy of the software and give it to Fox news and then come back and we can talk.When i first joined Avalon it was about my thirst for knowledge and interesting stories others had to tell not about politics and plots to take over the world by some unseen forces and doom and gloom. Come on we can to better than this

[Franny]

A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.

You are not familiar with how very easy it is to program voting machines or hack the vote in any number of places in the process. As a computer programmer myself I know VERY well how easy it is to do so. It can be programmed to give you a receipt confirming your vote for candidate A while giving it to candidate B. And it can be programmed to keep a count of the vote and give a specific percentage of votes to any candidate to give them just over 50%, as one example, and much, much more.

By law voting machines cannot be examined by a judge for such programming as they are privately owned and the programming code is proprietary.

Listen to this programmer telling a judge under oath he did just that. There are many videos still on YT with even more information on how it's done if you will go look. Many articles and studies as well. See for yourself.

DzBI33kOiKc

And just came across this one from a very high level software engineer.

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[Mashika]

A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.

You are not familiar with how very easy it is to program voting machines or hack the vote in any number of places in the process. As a computer programmer myself I know VERY well how easy it is to do so. It can be programmed to give you a receipt confirming your vote for candidate A while giving it to candidate B. And it can be programmed to keep a count of the vote and give a specific percentage of votes to any candidate to give them just over 50%, as one example, and much, much more.

By law voting machines cannot be examined by a judge for such programming as they are privately owned and the programming code is proprietary.

Listen to this programmer telling a judge under oath he did just that. There are many videos still on YT with even more information on how it's done if you will go look. Many articles and studies as well. See for yourself.

DzBI33kOiKc

A lot of people believe that what they see on screen, is what is actually happening at the background process :) Just a simple flag switch is all that is needed, at the very core. But hard to explain otherwise

[Jad]

Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence. A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.The University of Loyola law professor Justin Levitt did a study of a over a billion votes from 2000 to 2014 and found 31 cases.There are safe guards in all states to protect votes. MSM has its agenda but come on folks the Republicans have filed lawsuits with many states and nothing has come of them, get a copy of the software and give it to Fox news and then come back and we can talk.When i first joined Avalon it was about my thirst for knowledge and interesting stories others had to tell not about politics and plots to take over the world by some unseen forces and doom and gloom. Come on we can to better than this

What about the dead people who voted Frodo? That’s a conspiracy theory as well? You need an ID to buy a pack of cigarettes in this country. Yet you can cast a vote for the President of the United States via a mail in ballot without even verification of who actually signed? If all these things seem trivial to you or don’t raise any suspicions in your analytical mind then you’re probably in the wrong forum mate.

[apokalypse]

what scary thing is this whole suspicious of election fraud going on have ignore....not questioning on it and accept the election. i guest these people happy with the system and nothing wrong with election.

[Kamikaze]

delete it all.

[Patient]

Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality.

You should do a little research to look and to see when and why the term "conspiracy theories" was created. I could tell you, but best you find out for yourself.

So many people use the term too easily today - it is really serving it's intended use. It would be nice if people were allowed to voice an opinion without being quickly labeled in a negative manner.

[Nikola Tesla]

Hello from Europe.

I am not left or right and do not think in this category's, rather sort the people in honest and disshonest. I must admit 4 years ago I was thinking what are that presidential candidates?!?.. criminal Hillary and clown Trump :o poor Amerika

But after 4 years of Trump Administration, must say, even if I disagree with his Venezuela and Israel, Politic, HE DID NOT START A WAR!!!:happythumbsup:

Just this one fact makes him a wonderful president and I hope he defeat this steeling of election and come back 4 more years!

And when I see how all media around the globe is against him, that means to me… he must did something good!

When you see the economy data before covid, that was great. I work for an American company and we have the best year ever. It cross my mind, they release covid just to bring him down?

ON the other side I can not understand why the democrats bring Biden in the ring? This man is sick, and suffer from dementia, he does not recognize his own family members at all. But now is clear.. when you own the media you can put Pinocchio in front and the people will vote for him.. but not a lot, therefore they have printed much more Biden letters.. hahahaha this smells really bad :mmph: when I read even dead persons vote for Biden...:frusty:

Everyone see its a fraud election and they will steal the victory from Trump.. Its a big shame for USA and makes you looking like 3 world country.

btw. Biden and his Family have to be in jail what they did all over the world. Why the media is not touching Hunters Biden lap top ?!?!

So I hope the court is working and bring all this democrat/media/criminals behind bars.

Just my opinion ..

Have a nice weekend

[apokalypse]

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how about that from bill gates

[OmeyocaN777]

Send them love...
Their (cabal) timeline is over...ours (humanity) begins...
We will not fall into their low vibrational way of thinking, they want chaos, they want us to be like them and bring (manifest) civil war to expand it into nuclear war...
Ain't gonna happen.
Jay Campbell and Michael Jaco discuss the Biden election lie
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[Open Minded Dude]

No War in 4 years alone is a first!
Foreign policy (and thus 'war policy' too) is not on the radar of most US Americans it seems, so it is not worth a lot.

In all fairness we should say however that there is/was is the perpetuated 'drone war' killing many innocent civilians still going on in many parts of the world, even under Trump although Obama was the one who extended it massively after it was started in 2002 by Bush. What Trump did was to hand it all over to the CIA entirely to keep his hands 'clean' (which as Prez and commander in chief they are not really obviously).

https://www.rt.com/usa/380600-cia-drone-strike-authorization/

[T Smith]

There are many liberal voters that wanted to get rid of Trump but they want nothing to do with the extreme left which has grown to a sizeable number. These moderate liberals and inner-city minorities do not want to defund the police. They do not support higher taxes, higher gas prices, higher utility prices or the oil companies shut down. Many do not support the green new deal.



What you describe should be called the Democratic process, but if you're a liberal voter or have left-leaning proclivities, how do you partake in the democratic process (which is essential to a functioning body politic) when your party has been commandeered by organized crime and revolutionary Bolsheviks (both of whom are but useful pawns for the NWO to tear down the American Republic)? In other words, liberals have been completely shut out from the democratic process and have thus been targeted by the psyop to assume a specific role. Many understand something is terribly wrong but can't put their finger on it, and hence their own disenfranchisement becomes an embodiment of anger and hatred that is most easily channeled with sophisticated subliminal psychosocial engineering to the political opponent, Donald Trump. A few posts in this tread alone--among many others here on Avalon--illustrate this dynamic. In reality, there is no real political opponent because liberals are no longer part of the political dialectic. Many who believe otherwise simply do not understand the role they have played or that they themselves have been targets of a NWO psyop that specifically plays to their political proclivities by instilling an irrational hatred for Trump. I'm not talking about disagreeing with Trump politics or policies; I'm talking about unmitigated hatred--as in Orwell's Two Minutes of Hate for Goldstein--that provides an illusion of political participation but in realty does little but enable a NWO coup d'état of the American Republic. Thus a very large (and required) political demographic necessary to pull off the crime plays out as many go along with the program by turning a blind eye to crimes open for all to see, namely the takedown of American democracy. If those with such disdain and hatred for Trump cannot honestly understand where their hatred is coming from and why and how it has been instilled and that they have been subject to MK-Ultra-like mind control on a mass scale, I fear this will be the last meaningful USA election--if not the last election period.

Every American citizen needs to step up now, regardless of political leanings--and support the legal conclusion of this election.

In the words of Joe Biden, C'mon man!

[T Smith]

Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence. A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.The University of Loyola law professor Justin Levitt did a study of a over a billion votes from 2000 to 2014 and found 31 cases.There are safe guards in all states to protect votes. MSM has its agenda but come on folks the Republicans have filed lawsuits with many states and nothing has come of them, get a copy of the software and give it to Fox news and then come back and we can talk.When i first joined Avalon it was about my thirst for knowledge and interesting stories others had to tell not about politics and plots to take over the world by some unseen forces and doom and gloom. Come on we can to better than this

With all due respect, there is hard evidence abound of election fraud. I have to assume you do not believe mathematics and statistics are conspiracy theories.

A statistical analysis of the voting data out of Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Detroit, Pittsburg relative to like demographics, e.g. Cleveland, Cincinnati, definitively proves voter fraud.

Your argument is equivalent of embracing the idea that a height sample of 9 and 10 foot humans are normal in Milwaukee, Philadelphia, but no where else in the world.

The question is not whether there is voter/election fraud--the question is whether the perpetrators of the coup d'état will get away employing it.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I have a son who has down syndrome and the thing that turned me off to him the most was when he mocked a reporter who had a disability. .

Soundly debunked long ago (along with many more misperceptions). You are living in a reality not of your own creation but one that's been moulded for you in order to shape your perceptions. You are being gamed by the fakestream media [attack Trump], because that is what they do.


Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence.

It is you who deal with accusations it would seem. We deal with reality.

Screenshot of Trump 'mocking' the disabled.
http://www.timestribuneblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/trumpmock.jpg

CsaB3ynIZH4

Ask yourself: If you're quite wrong about this, what else are you quite wrong about?

There are reams of material on Avalon that present facts, that present truth, that present reality. You are deep asleep - and that's ok, everyone was, once upon a time. But the tools and resources are right here to help you shape your own perception.

Do not sit back and allow the media to enslave your mind.

[rgray222]

Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence. A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.The University of Loyola law professor Justin Levitt did a study of a over a billion votes from 2000 to 2014 and found 31 cases.There are safe guards in all states to protect votes. MSM has its agenda but come on folks the Republicans have filed lawsuits with many states and nothing has come of them, get a copy of the software and give it to Fox news and then come back and we can talk.When i first joined Avalon it was about my thirst for knowledge and interesting stories others had to tell not about politics and plots to take over the world by some unseen forces and doom and gloom. Come on we can to better than this

I should mention that I found your comment very misinformed. You are mimicking the mainstream media mantra that voter fraud is not real which is simply a lie. If there are people revelling in conspiracy theories they are the ones claiming Biden won the election. Now, I fully expect Biden to win the election. He will be hoisted up as the legitimate president because people will demand that a winner be declared not because he won the election fairly. The sad truth is Biden may have actually won the election but we will never know. Once they stopped counting votes on election night it opened the door for voter fraud on a scale the country has never seen before. Real voter fraud or perceived voter fraud makes absolutely no difference.

I was going to drop into this post at least 10 links that show convictions in 2018/2019 and 2020 for voter fraud. The vast majority of these convictions have been against Democrats but there have been a few Republican convictions as well. The effort to pull out the stories and put the links in is time-consuming and I suspect that it would not phase you one bit, you have already bought hook, line and sinker that voter fraud is fake, Biden has won and anyone who feels otherwise is a conspiracy nut. There is no doubt that if they overturned Arizona or Wisconsin you would be screaming voter fraud.

Here is an article from the Federalist which you should read and give some thought to. Keep in mind the Federalist which is a very legitimate conservative site was taken down by Google and eventually reinstated. Google did not want the conservative side of the story put out to the public prior to the election. This is not a conspiracy this is just reality.

Saturday’s Media Declaration Is A Naked Attempt To Silence Republicans, And Nothing Has Changed

Nothing has changed since Friday night.

You might find that strange, given the media stampede to certify the election results for their man, but it’s crucial. The calls made Saturday morning are as arbitrary as they were last Tuesday, could just as easily have waited for Monday, and fly in the face of massive evidence of voter irregularities that, at minimum, should be heard in court before anyone considers calling the election.

Add pending lawsuits and official recounts in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin, and the conclusion is an attempt by the American media to pick our president and decide our election. The danger comes now, when in concert with Silicon Valley censors they use their own decree to dismiss and silence anyone who says otherwise.

For large swaths of the corporate media, the work to elect a Democratic president never ended. From before he even took office, attempts to delegitimize President Donald Trump’s administration employed tools ranging from innuendo to foreign disinformation, and from partisan conspiracies to laughably labeled “anonymous senior officials.” They did not stop Tuesday, holding calls on Republican wins like Florida for hours, and North Carolina for days, while recklessly rushing calls on states like Arizona for Team Blue.

Since Election Day itself, the irregularities have piled up. There were quick and continuing examples of Democratic Pennsylvanian cities illegally barring Republican poll watchers from watching polls from even as far as six feet away. There are multiple allegations of the long-dead voting in 2020. And on Friday, evidence was released that vote-counting software Dominion Voting Systems switched thousands of votes from Trump to former Vice President Joe Biden in just one county. While this software was rejected three times by the Texas election board for noticeable security vulnerabilities, it was used across Georgia and Michigan—two of the states subject to Republican lawsuits and, in Georgia, a recount.

None of this is proof the Democrats didn’t win the election, even if it strongly suggests illegal and undemocratic activity in states across the union. But it is a naked corporate attempt to exert control over what is happening in the United States. If just one thing, remember this: Corporations don’t get to pick our president—and they don’t decide our elections.

Donald Trump’s entire presidency is an affront to the media. His victory was an assertion that they are not in charge, we are. That’s why they hate him; that’s why they have to destroy him; and that’s what this power grab is about. It isn’t an election result, it is media elites reminding the people who is really in charge, and who gets to make the rules.

Nothing has changed since America went to bed Friday evening. There is a fight coming: After over a century of rule, the corruption of the big city Democratic machines will finally be examined in court. Every day, the media is going to call you crazy for demanding it.

Buckle up.

Source: https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/07/saturdays-media-declaration-is-a-naked-attempt-to-silence-republicans-and-nothing-has-changed/

[samildamach]

Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence. A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.The University of Loyola law professor Justin Levitt did a study of a over a billion votes from 2000 to 2014 and found 31 cases.There are safe guards in all states to protect votes. MSM has its agenda but come on folks the Republicans have filed lawsuits with many states and nothing has come of them, get a copy of the software and give it to Fox news and then come back and we can talk.When i first joined Avalon it was about my thirst for knowledge and interesting stories others had to tell not about politics and plots to take over the world by some unseen forces and doom and gloom. Come on we can to better than this

Not a great study then.if he came to the u.k we have well documented fraud cases.no safe guards work if the regulaters turn a blind eye .
I think you can do better than this by being more open minded.

[AutumnW]

Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence. A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.The University of Loyola law professor Justin Levitt did a study of a over a billion votes from 2000 to 2014 and found 31 cases.There are safe guards in all states to protect votes. MSM has its agenda but come on folks the Republicans have filed lawsuits with many states and nothing has come of them, get a copy of the software and give it to Fox news and then come back and we can talk.When i first joined Avalon it was about my thirst for knowledge and interesting stories others had to tell not about politics and plots to take over the world by some unseen forces and doom and gloom. Come on we can to better than this

What about the dead people who voted Frodo? That’s a conspiracy theory as well? You need an ID to buy a pack of cigarettes in this country. Yet you can cast a vote for the President of the United States via a mail in ballot without even verification of who actually signed? If all these things seem trivial to you or don’t raise any suspicions in your analytical mind then you’re probably in the wrong forum mate.

He said, she said, someone on Twitter said that their best friend's aunt's neighbor's neighbor saw something on facebook about it and then it was youtoobed, so it must be true. Let's see the evidence. Come on. They were paper ballots, so don't know where computers enter into it. Because they tallied the numbers on computer? Maybe they should have used abacus instead?

[AutumnW]

No War in 4 years alone is a first!
Foreign policy (and thus 'war policy' too) is not on the radar of most US Americans it seems, so it is not worth a lot.

In all fairness we should say however that there is/was is the perpetuated 'drone war' killing many innocent civilians still going on in many parts of the world, even under Trump although Obama was the one who extended it massively after it was started in 2002 by Bush. What Trump did was to hand it all over to the CIA entirely to keep his hands 'clean' (which as Prez and commander in chief they are not really obviously).

https://www.rt.com/usa/380600-cia-drone-strike-authorization/

The war against Iran was planned for the second term. Am I the only one on this forum who was aware of the set up taking place by Jared Kushner just prior to the election? Trump knew he stood no chance of winning a second term if he proceeded with a major war in his first term.

If anyone wants me to explain the set up I will be happy to.

[AutumnW]

I have a son who has down syndrome and the thing that turned me off to him the most was when he mocked a reporter who had a disability. .

Soundly debunked long ago (along with many more misperceptions). You are living in a reality not of your own creation but one that's been moulded for you in order to shape your perceptions. You are being gamed by the fakestream media [attack Trump], because that is what they do.


Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence.

It is you who deal with accusations it would seem. We deal with reality.

Screenshot of Trump 'mocking' the disabled.
http://www.timestribuneblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/trumpmock.jpg

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Ask yourself: If you're quite wrong about this, what else are you quite wrong about?

There are reams of material on Avalon that present facts, that present truth, that present reality. You are deep asleep - and that's ok, everyone was, once upon a time. But the tools and resources are right here to help you shape your own perception.

Do not sit back and allow the media to enslave your mind.

You know, funny thing is, making fun of the disabled is exactly what those pics look like. If someone tells me that somebody made fun of the disabled with their gestures, I would question it, wonder if they were being overly sensitive or misinterpreting things. But I've seen the videos and he was indeed making fun of the disabled.

[TargeT]

You know, funny thing is, making fun of the disabled is exactly what those pics look like. If someone tells me that somebody made fun of the disabled with their gestures, I would question it, wonder if they were being overly sensitive or misinterpreting things. But I've seen the videos and he was indeed making fun of the disabled.

he's making fun of people waffling and grasping when confronted...

but you already knew that

[AutumnW]

You know, funny thing is, making fun of the disabled is exactly what those pics look like. If someone tells me that somebody made fun of the disabled with their gestures, I would question it, wonder if they were being overly sensitive or misinterpreting things. But I've seen the videos and he was indeed making fun of the disabled.

he's making fun of people waffling and grasping when confronted...

but you already knew that

What do you mean by, "you already knew that?" He imitates somebody with a disability when he is retelling an event where somebody doesn't agree with him. And if they happen to have a disability he lays it on thick. That's what I already know.

[Savannah]

It's almost shocking to me that a place like Avalon, people can still talk about Trumps personality or say they want a young non white president. We need a leader who will fight the controllers. Who will not be shaken one iota when they defame and belittle him, that takes a strong personality. He has to be strong to be respected by the military, they keep him alive and support his agenda. We need a person who has the wisdom and experience only age can bring. Youth makes you look good, helps you identify with a younger generation but doesn't give you too much life experience. We need a PERSON what ever color he/she may be to do the job. If you want a race, gender age over ability you drank the other sides cool aid. If you think "he" divided the country you are dismissive of everything talked about on this forum. Didn't we already get divided by blood line families and their ET controllers along time ago. You want to be united in delusion, I'm sure Hilary would have been able to pull that one off. However I respect your right to your perceptions but I fear people who think this way are easily manipulated into thinking communism/ totalitarianism equates to equality and happiness. I had a past life where I was put to death in a Nazi gas chamber, I really don't want a repeat of that life. So I'll just wait until they reveal the voter fraud and 80% of those who voted for Trumps "personalty" so we may live to see another day.

[PurpleLama]

Conspiracy theories are just disgruntled individuals ways of dealing with reality. Where is the proof. making a accusation is not evidence. A software that changes votes sounds like paranoid delusions like flat earth theory.The University of Loyola law professor Justin Levitt did a study of a over a billion votes from 2000 to 2014 and found 31 cases.There are safe guards in all states to protect votes. MSM has its agenda but come on folks the Republicans have filed lawsuits with many states and nothing has come of them, get a copy of the software and give it to Fox news and then come back and we can talk.When i first joined Avalon it was about my thirst for knowledge and interesting stories others had to tell not about politics and plots to take over the world by some unseen forces and doom and gloom. Come on we can to better than this

What about the dead people who voted Frodo? That’s a conspiracy theory as well? You need an ID to buy a pack of cigarettes in this country. Yet you can cast a vote for the President of the United States via a mail in ballot without even verification of who actually signed? If all these things seem trivial to you or don’t raise any suspicions in your analytical mind then you’re probably in the wrong forum mate.

He said, she said, someone on Twitter said that their best friend's aunt's neighbor's neighbor saw something on facebook about it and then it was youtoobed, so it must be true. Let's see the evidence. Come on. They were paper ballots, so don't know where computers enter into it. Because they tallied the numbers on computer? Maybe they should have used abacus instead?

Uh, either you really don't know what you are talking about or you are being disengenuous. I actually voted on a computer, no paper ballot at all. Every state is responsible for their own voting system, and none are exactly the same. Luckily, where I live is fairly low population, so not a target for fraud on the national scale.

I suggest doing a little research before commenting any further on another country's election, however much you might hate Trump.

[PurpleLama]

You know, funny thing is, making fun of the disabled is exactly what those pics look like. If someone tells me that somebody made fun of the disabled with their gestures, I would question it, wonder if they were being overly sensitive or misinterpreting things. But I've seen the videos and he was indeed making fun of the disabled.

he's making fun of people waffling and grasping when confronted...

but you already knew that

She did not bother watching the video, obviously.

[TargeT]

Does a hand full of media companies saying biden won mean anything?

AZ isn't even done counting yet.... or was the title of the thread meant to be ironic?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

But I've seen the videos and he was indeed making fun of the disabled.

That's projection, automatically arrived at by way of mainstream media programming. They've been very thorough in their perception-management to frame Trump in as negative light as possible. Their non-stop 24/7 bombardment affects the mind over time, particularly those who do not know their tactics. Had this this 'news report' never happened, had the headline 'mocking disabled people' never been published, the thought would never have entered your brain. Now you cannot dislodged it. It's programmed in.

It's not your thought, or your perception, it's what they've told you to think and to perceive.

Trump may not be the polished statesmen (which for me makes him infinitely more credible, more human), but he's not an idiot, or some hateful barbarian. He's not going stand there in front of all those cameras and all those people and ridicule and humiliate a disabled person. I mean seriously, are you kidding me!

These are simply the gesticulations and bluster of a New Yorker. They are very expressive, can be sometimes coarse in how they carry themselves - I've experienced this with amusement many times - and they don't much care what you think of them. What you see is what you get. Nothing wrong with that. What you see is not a man surrounded by the masks and mirrors of a Washington political clone. And that makes him very attractive.

[T Smith]

Let's see the evidence. Come on. They were paper ballots, so don't know where computers enter into it. Because they tallied the numbers on computer? Maybe they should have used abacus instead?



An abacus would be preferred. Perhaps you are unaware of this ? (https://soundcloud.com/omegamanradio/episode-7858-red-alert-operation-hammer-and-score-card) (you can jump to 20 minutes in for the gist).

If you are tempted to disregard this credible leak as innuendo, I would also add knowledge of the fraudulent objectives of this software program is gaining traction and isn't going away.

We need to audit the counts; we need to audit the ballots. Period. There is way too much uncertainty surrounding the legitimacy of this election and the United States of America will never be the same if we do not.

If the software proves accurate and the ballots legal, and Joe Biden is our next President (the mathematical odds being 1 in 52 million), so be it. But this is where this is heading.

[Sarah Rainsong]

Does a hand full of media companies saying biden won mean anything?

AZ isn't even done counting yet.... or was the title of the thread meant to be ironic?

I took the thread to be more about observations of people's reactions to the "declaration" of Biden winning. Since the MSM and Dems have absolutely "declared" this, in a blatant attempt at gaslighting the American public, how are people reacting to this?

Interestingly, my oldest (23 y/o) went into town on Saturday to watch the Georgia/Florida football game with some friends. (For those not aware, this is a huge college rivalry--and I'm in northeast Georgia, so definitely Dawg country.) I asked him how people reacted to the news about Biden.

"Are you kidding? No one talks about politics. That's how fights get started!"

But apparently, there was no issue with the Gator fans at the bar.

My how times have changed. It seems like wasn't long ago that simply wearing Gator colors in a Dawg bar could start a fight, not the mere mention of the presidential election. *sigh*