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Ewan
20th December 2020, 19:04
Two of the people I admire most, (in that I could listen to anything they have to say, even if I don't always agree with it, because they obviously have put so much thought into their considered utterances), Jordan Peterson and Stephen Fry.

They will introduce to you the subject of this thread in the following two pre-debate videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsR6LP7Scg0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PAywowyoo0


And then the full 2 hour debate if you have the desire/stamina/interest or hotchpotch of the aforementioned. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST6kj9OEYf0

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What struck me the most, almost stunned, was the statement that political correctness was like a 'recruiting sergeant**' for the right. It made so much sense in the field of debate under inspection. AND it meant that someone had considered and created this as a weapon? to be used.

For me, who really is an incredibly simple person without subterfuge and totally bewildered by politics, it was a mind-boggling concept.

** Did you know you can find an etymological connection between sergeant and servant?

Tintin
16th March 2021, 15:53
(A wonderful debate by the way Ewan - I did watch that quite some time ago :highfive: )

The following piece might also be better cross-posted elsewhere, but it does relate to the pushback in academia against the principles behind 'cancel culture (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111532-Cancel-Culture--Examples-)'; it may just work.

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Source: 21st Century Wire (https://21stcenturywire.com/2021/03/16/new-academic-alliance-vows-to-fight-cancel-culture-on-u-s-campuses/)

What is the difference between ‘education’ and ‘indoctrination’? The fact that we are even having to ask that question in the 21st century should give everyone serious pause

New Academic Alliance Vows to Fight Cancel Culture on U.S. Campuses
MARCH 16, 2021 BY NEWS WIRE


In this brief interview, Princeton Professor Robert George warns about the danger allowing fundamentalist politics to fester in schools, and explains why it is now paramount to defend freedom speech and thought in education amid intense pressure to conform to woke ideology.

George has just launched the Academic Freedom Alliance (https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardvedder/2021/03/15/a-star-is-born-the-academic-freedom-alliance/?sh=1539b3df6efe), a bipartisan and neutral organization founded to push back against the fear and intolerance, and political groupthink which is rapidly destroying America’s education system.

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Ewan
16th March 2021, 21:15
Cheers Tintin for bringing this to my attention, hope springs eternal. I do believe the majority are still sane despite the madness of the world around them. :)

Edit: Just watched it now, so spot on, thanks again.

(( Re: The Munk Debate above, I assume you noticed that Stephen Fry was the only person who remained aware enough to mention, several times, the debate was supposed to be about political correctness - as the rest seemed to get caught up more on making their point and defending their position. The ego is a poor bedfellow at best. :) ))