View Full Version : Vaccination Feedback - from PA Members & their families .....
DeeMetrios
3rd January 2021, 02:46
Hello ...
Im curious to know if any members here have been vaccinated , either by choice or by external pressure because they are frontline workers .
It would be ok also if you reported your spouse's or children's reactions .
cheers
Journeyman
3rd January 2021, 10:01
My Father has had first injection of the Pfizer. Looking like the second one won't now go ahead. No adverse effects reported.
Chris Gilbert
3rd January 2021, 14:03
Hasn't happened to me yet, but it may very well become mandatory for me in the coming weeks due to not only having to rely on a hospital job for money, but actually the even more precarious position of being at several jobs, and worries of cross contamination for me having to occasionally be near covid patients.
I did a self test with the PEG compound that is thought to be causing the adverse allergic reactions (PEG is in miralax) and my body had no response to it. Of course, it is different though if someone is puncturing the skin. One aspect of this that I think most don't consider is that both short and long term complications of vaccines is not just due to the compounds in the vaccine, but also the very nature of any procedure where the skin is punctured...and the Qi/lifeforce of the person doing the puncturing vs. the recipient. The mandatory flu jabs at work never caused me any issues besides mild muscle soreness, but I ALWAYS shielded myself against the Qi of the person doing it!
For puncturing the skin, interestingly enough, the rate of serious adverse reactions from acupuncture, a more holistic remedy, is around 0.024%. Chances of fainting after a blood draw can go as high as 2.4%. Complications from getting a tattoo, as high as 1 in 10.
The difference though, is that all of those procedures are generally elective. With the covid vaccine however, even though I think the wilder theories on microchips or nanobots in the vaccines are rabbit hole nonsense, I think there definitely will be massive healthy problems when they're forced onto the general population, not to mention it might not even be that effective.
If I have to end up getting it in the coming weeks I will post my experience here.
CurEus
4th January 2021, 04:43
I think we should pause for a moment and acknowledge that this is clearly not a "vaccine". This is a mRNA modification that causes the body to produce a COVID like substance that "should" prime the immune system to attack it.
Apart from adjuvants, aborted human fetal cells and the usual substances in regular vaccines that can, with great effort be moderated, or cleansed form the body when the mRNA is taken it can change our DNA.
Which may mean you are no longer "human" and therefore have no human rights. You will truly be chattle to be bought and sold freely by your owners. This has long thought to be legal fiction with every bizarre "freeman on the land" proponents arguing about birth registrations and the like...something is afoot, and I am not quite sure what it is or is likely to be.
This would make a great movie or book......
Denis
5th January 2021, 10:02
Hello everyone! Here is what my friend from Germany wrote. "Already many old people have died after vaccination ... this is certainly not much advertised .... they say this is not from vaccination ... but this is not true ... they are afraid that people will go on strike or even refuse vaccinations"
TomKat
5th January 2021, 10:27
Hello everyone! Here is what my friend from Germany wrote. "Already many old people have died after vaccination ... this is certainly not much advertised .... they say this is not from vaccination ... but this is not true ... they are afraid that people will go on strike or even refuse vaccinations"
Just as I suspected would happen. The older you are, the less you need vaccines, but also the more frail. To subject a senior citizen to an experimental vaccine like mRNA one, seems very dangerous.
Denis
5th January 2021, 16:37
Hello everyone! Here is what my friend from Germany wrote. "Already many old people have died after vaccination ... this is certainly not much advertised .... they say this is not from vaccination ... but this is not true ... they are afraid that people will go on strike or even refuse vaccinations"
Just as I suspected would happen. The older you are, the less you need vaccines, but also the more frail. To subject a senior citizen to an experimental vaccine like mRNA one, seems very dangerous.
Not only adults are exposed to vaccines, but young ones too. I don't think this is a test. A trial is when a new vaccine is made and then tested. And it seems to me that this vaccine was prepared long ago as a weapon of destruction, and now it has been presented to us as a vaccine against the virus. But this is purely my personal opinion!
Tintin
5th January 2021, 16:47
...And it seems to me that this vaccine was prepared long ago ..
Yes :thumbsup:
I'd thought the same thing really quite a while ago now. This I sense must have been prepared really quite some time ago and now seems the time to roll it out :flower:
Denis
5th January 2021, 16:55
...And it seems to me that this vaccine was prepared long ago ..
Yes :thumbsup:
I'd thought the same thing really quite a while ago now. This I sense must have been prepared really quite some time ago and now seems the time to roll it out :flower:
It is impossible to make a vaccine in such a short time. I just wonder why people believe in all this, why don't they resist, do they really care about their own fate, the fate of their loved ones?
avid
5th January 2021, 17:14
Just watching the British Bull****ting Corporation expounding ‘enforcement’ of vaccines imminently despite contraindications in elderly first recipients not responding well, due to compromising their immune systems.
We are bombarded with ‘panic-mode’ news to persuade folk to get any vaccination just to get a holiday passport!
There is absolutely no mention of normal seasonal flu infections, or those who are health-compromised due to the neglect of referrals during this scenario p, but any ‘deaths’ are attributed to Covid, frankly untrue.
The BBC are catalysts of doom, pandering to the global pharmaceutical agendas, an absolute disgrace for truth and real journalism, agents of a communist agenda. AKA ‘right-think’ Orwellian subversion...
Olaf
5th January 2021, 17:18
The following graphic was provided by Dr. von Helden, a German physicist.
It shows the outcome of the two main vaccines: Pfizer and Moderna
Both have nearly same results. After the second shot >25% of the participants had headache (Kopfschmerz) and about 45% of the people had to fight with fatigue (Erschöpfung). One can say that every second person in the studies had one of these side effects.
In fact that is no surprise, knowing that the human body produces significant amount of nitrosative stress (NO) when fighting viruses. These are known effects of nitrosative stress, because it destroys enzymes, vitamins and causes significant loss of trace elements.
Of course nitrosative stress can kill old people too. Nearly all deaths in Germany after COVID-19 are in the age group >80 years.
These people could therefore also die from the second vaccination shot.
https://www.vitamindservice.de/sites/default/files/vergleich_nebenwirkungen-biontec-moderna--vitaminDservice1200.jpg
In the diagram there are 4 rows for each symptom: placebo 1st, placebo 2nd, real vaccine 1st, real vaccine 2nd.
Also note the colours: grade 2: not able to work, grade 3: severe condition.
In addition we do know nothing about the long term effects of those RNA-vaccines. Re-combination with other viruses in the body may create much dangerous virus species.
palehorse
27th January 2021, 06:14
I posted in another thread about a medical doctor friend in Brazil was been forced to take the vaccine, well that happened a few days ago, he work for a public hospital and had no excuse about vaccination, it was pretty much like take it or lose your job. The vaccine in question is Coronavac (I think it is the Chinese one), let's see what happen to him, hopefully he will be fine.
The first phase of the roll out vaccination in Brazil was for the health front line workers.
Icare
13th April 2021, 20:54
I have recently read a post where a member mentioned he got the jab, that's why I'm bumping this thread.
My 89-year-old mother recently got the second jab and I worry for her, so I'm wondering whether any Avalon members who have had the jab/s by now would care to share their experiences with us.
Brigantia
13th April 2021, 21:07
I met up with my best friend today, we've known each other since we were 11 and kept in touch through the years.
She's had the jab (the first of two), she knew about the adverse effects and deaths but said that she had it because she's fed up of being cooped up and wants to get back to normal and go wherever she wants. What struck me though is that she's lost her sparkle, she was always bubbly and fun company but I've never seen her with so little energy. She has always been highly intuitive, I wonder if she will lose that ability though it wasn't something that I wanted to probe at the time.
I'm worried for her and it's deepened my resolve not to take the vax.
Mike
14th April 2021, 19:03
About a month ago my parents got their first covid shot. I drove them there actually, and it felt like I was escorting them to their execution. It was an odd, eerie, unsettling feeling.
They know how I feel about it all. Did I lecture them? No. Did I offer warnings? Not really. It would have been utterly pointless. They had their minds made up, and nothing was going to change that. Anything I said would have only resulted in an argument. The closest feeling to the one I had driving them to get their shots is the feeling I get when I know a hurricane is headed my way and I can't do a single thing about it but sit and wait.
They were both fine after the first shot. But after the second, 2 weeks later, my Mom was in rough shape for a couple days. Laid up in bed with flu-like symptoms. But she was told to maybe expect those symptoms, so they were in no way alarming to her.
My brother is a healthcare worker and also got the shot. This was months ago and he hasn't reported any unpleasant side effects
Libico
18th April 2021, 07:02
Just another anecdotal story but my father in law (61) received 2 doses of Pfizer and has been to the ER twice for chest pains since. I wouldn't say he is the healthiest guy out there but this all happened within weeks of his first/second shot.
graciousb
21st April 2021, 00:07
I've posted elsewhere how 3 people acquainted with have expired within days of 2nd shot, but also one of brothers in law has been struggling for two weeks and very ill post his 2nd moderna. He swore to my sister he would not get the booster (myself and sisters are strongly against all this), but we know he did anyway..he fell so ill he couldnt eat (he's normally a voracious non stop eater), constant diahrea, eyes all red like he was punched, extreme fatigue. I begged to take him to the ER (before i put 2 and 2 together that he was suffering vacc reaction), his wife, one of my sisters, is out of town and was away for the worst of it. If he'd been genuinely concerned he had another illness I know he would've wanted to get medical attention. He didn't seem to have much reaction to the first shot.
Victoria
22nd April 2021, 04:56
While I have not received the injection, my family members who sought it had disturbing reactions ranging from nightmarish to simply unsettling. Oddly, and maybe it is some form of baffling cognitive dissonance, despite their apparent physical reactions afterward, these relatives marched along to get their subsequent injections only questioning their symptoms as ANYTHING other than an immune response to the Covid inoculation. "Could it be (this)? Could it be (that)?.. Should I be concerned? What should I do? What do you think it is?.. No, no it's definitely not a vaccine reaction."
Four members in our family that I know of, have thus far received the injections. The first was my grandmother, who was shuttled to a clinic by concerned relatives just as soon as Pfizer and local hospitals made them available to the community. Per my aunt, who frantically called for advice afterward:
That day, my grandmother was happy and capable when she left home, feeling reassured by the encouragement of family that she would soon be protected against the virus. She was without any deficiencies or known health problems, not on any medications, able to move, interact and do almost all things carefully on her own(except drive). When she returned home that day, she was still very well and even danced about jokingly. Then apparently within a two-hour span, she began coughing violently, lost mobility and started to vomit copious amounts of projectile black fluid that terrified her and overwhelmed my aunt. Like something out of a horror movie or nightmare, it was everywhere and staining everything, without cessation. The sheer amount of liquid purged in the course of 12 hours and a complete lack of any odor to it, as there might typically be with old blood or vomit, was notably strange.
My aunt called the hospital in desperation for an ambulance to come, but was told that they would not do anything at all to help my grandmother, that she would be better kept at home and then the person who answered the call flat-out refused to record information regarding the "possible" vaccine reaction. Other doctors were called through the night and by morning, a medication was found to successfully stop the vomiting and help her sleep. At that point, my grandmother could no longer talk, see clearly, hear, move or eat on her own. She has been in bed since, on oxygen and is very frail now, but gratefully still with us. That occurred after a single injection. No causes have been mentioned by doctors or visiting nurses...she is basically in hospice now.
My father-in-law (in his 60s) also received his Pfizer injections and within two weeks of taking the second shot, lost all of his ability to think clearly, cannot remember for longer than a few seconds, can no longer navigate where he is, what he has or hasn't done, what he is looking at, what familiar things are called, nor can he carry on any kind of cohesive conversation. The only thing I can think to compare it to, is very sudden and extreme dementia. We were not aware he had received any covid injections until we were trying to troubleshoot, days ago, what exactly was happening along with the other worried family members. Doctors haven't found anything wrong and have not returned any of the extensive lab work or diagnostic tests to the family yet. Their silence to our concern is deafening, but his GP has reminded him ( & family) to be sure and come get his third vaccine in 8 months.
My sister, who is much younger, has also received the injection. I don't know which one, but think it was Moderna. Beginning the first day, she developed numerous symptoms from being sick, feverish, dizzy and having the typical huge circular rash "covid arm" reaction found in internet searches, to now developing numerous clustered clear blisters on her skin.
Lastly, another very dear family member received the Moderna injection and has experienced noticeable cognitive decline and drastic personality changes in a short period of time- night and day type changes that we never could have imagined. That particular person is a little too close for me to describe in any more detail, but my heart goes out to anyone and their families who have been harmed by these seemingly new technologies.
Journeyman
22nd April 2021, 09:49
Victoria, it's awful reading of these effects on your family. So far my family are not exhibiting long term effects but I'm worried for them. My Mother has been tired, but seems to be overcoming it. Soon I think I'll be the only one unvaccinated and I've already had a text from the Doctor and a letter from NHS to offer me the jab. Reading about your father in law however something occurred to me:
My father-in-law (in his 60s) also received his Pfizer injections and within two weeks of taking the second shot, lost all of his ability to think clearly, cannot remember for longer than a few seconds, can no longer navigate where he is, what he has or hasn't done, what he is looking at, what familiar things are called, nor can he carry on any kind of cohesive conversation. The only thing I can think to compare it to, is very sudden and extreme dementia. We were not aware he had received any covid injections until we were trying to troubleshoot, days ago, what exactly was happening along with the other worried family members. Doctors haven't found anything wrong and have not returned any of the extensive lab work or diagnostic tests to the family yet. Their silence to our concern is deafening, but his GP has reminded him ( & family) to be sure and come get his third vaccine in 8 months.
Could Brain Fog (https://www.healthline.com/health/brain-fog)be a good fit for his symptoms? It's often closely linked to auto immune conditions. I suffer from a form of this myself if I ingest any gluten whatsoever. It's one of the reasons I don't want anything tinkering with my already trigger happy immune system. It got me wondering if the vax has triggered your father in law's immune system and he's now intolerant of something that he was previously ok with eating. It's a long shot, but maybe you could try him on a strict elimination diet to see if his symptoms improve? Then you can reintroduce foods until you identify the culprit.
As I said, a long shot and there are of course other things which cause this, but it's action that can be taken and if it does work, as it does for me, then the only negative is a reduced choice in diet. At least this way you could eliminate one possibility. Same applies for your sister, the skin is one of the earliest warning (https://glutenintoleranceschool.com/dermatitis-herpetiformis/)signs I get that I've eaten something I shouldn't have.
If either of them do try an elimination diet (https://www.eatingwell.com/article/7805580/elimination-diet-meal-plan/)and there's any positive response it may be an indication that the vaccine could have unforeseen auto immune side effects?
Bill Ryan
22nd April 2021, 11:25
While I have not received the injection, my family members who sought it had disturbing reactions ranging from nightmarish to simply unsettling. Oddly, and maybe it is some form of baffling cognitive dissonance, despite their apparent physical reactions afterward, these relatives marched along to get their subsequent injections only questioning their symptoms as ANYTHING other than an immune response to the Covid inoculation. "Could it be (this)? Could it be (that)?.. Should I be concerned? What should I do? What do you think it is?.. No, no it's definitely not a vaccine reaction."
Four members in our family that I know of, have thus far received the injections. The first was my grandmother, who was shuttled to a clinic by concerned relatives just as soon as Pfizer and local hospitals made them available to the community. Per my aunt, who frantically called for advice afterward:
That day, my grandmother was happy and capable when she left home, feeling reassured by the encouragement of family that she would soon be protected against the virus. She was without any deficiencies or known health problems, not on any medications, able to move, interact and do almost all things carefully on her own(except drive). When she returned home that day, she was still very well and even danced about jokingly. Then apparently within a two-hour span, she began coughing violently, lost mobility and started to vomit copious amounts of projectile black fluid that terrified her and overwhelmed my aunt. Like something out of a horror movie or nightmare, it was everywhere and staining everything, without cessation. The sheer amount of liquid purged in the course of 12 hours and a complete lack of any odor to it, as there might typically be with old blood or vomit, was notably strange.
My aunt called the hospital in desperation for an ambulance to come, but was told that they would not do anything at all to help my grandmother, that she would be better kept at home and then the person who answered the call flat-out refused to record information regarding the "possible" vaccine reaction. Other doctors were called through the night and by morning, a medication was found to successfully stop the vomiting and help her sleep. At that point, my grandmother could no longer talk, see clearly, hear, move or eat on her own. She has been in bed since, on oxygen and is very frail now, but gratefully still with us. That occurred after a single injection. No causes have been mentioned by doctors or visiting nurses...she is basically in hospice now.
My father-in-law (in his 60s) also received his Pfizer injections and within two weeks of taking the second shot, lost all of his ability to think clearly, cannot remember for longer than a few seconds, can no longer navigate where he is, what he has or hasn't done, what he is looking at, what familiar things are called, nor can he carry on any kind of cohesive conversation. The only thing I can think to compare it to, is very sudden and extreme dementia. We were not aware he had received any covid injections until we were trying to troubleshoot, days ago, what exactly was happening along with the other worried family members. Doctors haven't found anything wrong and have not returned any of the extensive lab work or diagnostic tests to the family yet. Their silence to our concern is deafening, but his GP has reminded him ( & family) to be sure and come get his third vaccine in 8 months.
My sister, who is much younger, has also received the injection. I don't know which one, but think it was Moderna. Beginning the first day, she developed numerous symptoms from being sick, feverish, dizzy and having the typical huge circular rash "covid arm" reaction found in internet searches, to now developing numerous clustered clear blisters on her skin.
Lastly, another very dear family member received the Moderna injection and has experienced noticeable cognitive decline and drastic personality changes in a short period of time- night and day type changes that we never could have imagined. That particular person is a little too close for me to describe in any more detail, but my heart goes out to anyone and their families who have been harmed by these seemingly new technologies.
:heart: :heart: :heart:
Everyone. You have to read this. :flower:
Bassplayer1
22nd April 2021, 13:51
I'm truly sorry and saddened to read about people who have suffered with these jabs.
For those of you concerned for loved ones, I can tell you that my Husband had the first of the Pfizer vaccines about 10 days ago. I decided to make sure to do my best to keep the energy in our home positive and to ask the Universe to 'neutralize' any harmful effects before and after (many thanks to a wonderful video here talking about this. I can't remember which Vaccine thread its in, probably the one that's titled along the lines 'How to protect loved ones that have had the vaccine).
Anyway, I can report that he is doing fine. Interestingly, a couple of days ago, he was part of a Zoom 'get-together' and afterwards, I asked him how it went and he said that he was bored, and everyone seemed superficial and the conversation was shallow. It had no meaning for him and he felt disappointed. Some of these people are his closest friends for years and now he sees things differently!!! He doesn't normally talk in this way. I was (pleasantly) surprised!
I'm telling you this because we are swamped with negative reports and speculation about these vaccines switching off people's souls / severing their spiritual connection. But for the first time, my husband was perceiving things differently - noticing a two-dimensional unsatisfactoriness with people and their conversations. Thats a positive shift within him.
I'm definitely not feeling any low energy coming from him. I'm looking out for his well being and safety every second of every day. I'm doing my best to have a go to the best of my ability at being a 'guardian angel' for him. I'm watching his back ;-)
Journeyman
22nd April 2021, 13:55
I'm truly sorry and saddened to read about people who have suffered with these jabs.
For those of you concerned for loved ones, I can tell you that my Husband had the first of the Pfizer vaccines about 10 days ago. I decided to make sure to do my best to keep the energy in our home positive and to ask the Universe to 'neutralize' any harmful effects before and after (many thanks to a wonderful video here talking about this. I can't remember which Vaccine thread its in, probably the one that's titled along the lines 'How to protect loved ones that have had the vaccine).
Anyway, I can report that he is doing fine. Interestingly, a couple of days ago, he was part of a Zoom 'get-together' and afterwards, I asked him how it went and he said that he was bored, and everyone seemed superficial and the conversation was shallow. It had no meaning for him and he felt disappointed. Some of these people are his closest friends for years and now he sees things differently!!! He doesn't normally talk in this way. I was (pleasantly) surprised!
I'm telling you this because we are swamped with negative reports and speculation about these vaccines switching off people's souls / severing their spiritual connection. But for the first time, my husband was perceiving things differently - noticing a two-dimensional unsatisfactoriness with people and their conversations. Thats a positive shift within him.
I'm definitely not feeling any low energy coming from him. I'm looking out for his well being and safety every second of every day. I'm doing my best to have a go to the best of my ability at being a 'guardian angel' for him. I'm watching his back ;-)
My Dad has had both his Pfizer injections and he's absolutely as full of vitality as ever. He's in his mid 80's and has just got back to swimming again at the local gym. Stay positive :)
Victoria
24th April 2021, 06:14
Victoria, it's awful reading of these effects on your family. So far my family are not exhibiting long term effects but I'm worried for them. My Mother has been tired, but seems to be overcoming it. Soon I think I'll be the only one unvaccinated and I've already had a text from the Doctor and a letter from NHS to offer me the jab. Reading about your father in law however something occurred to me:
Journeyman,
I hope your mother will regain her vitality soon and that your family will continue to stay healthy! I also hope you can avoid the jab at your discretion without repercussion. It's nerve wracking to think that our own private and personal decisions regarding health are being monitored so closely these days.
We had not considered brain fog, nor did I know anything about it until you posted. Thank you very much, you provided a lot of helpful material! Long shot or not, I imagine preventing inflammation and identifying allergens in this way would only be beneficial to try (for everyone) by stopping at least one more factor from being a damper to our already barraged immune systems. It makes good sense. I appreciate your recommendations and will pass the information to my mother in law.
I will also share it + the gluten intolerance site about skin reactions to my sister. She tries to be impeccable with her diet and health - always interested in anything to improve them, so this will definitely resonate with her and maybe put her mind more to ease about the blisters. ((thank you :flower:))
...
I also wanted to reply more in tune to the OP's post, as I never really consider what a frontline worker is; it's an incongruent term to the reality I see daily...but I guess that's what my partner and I are in a few capacities. My employer provided vaccines to our team recently and when I declined, it was mentioned that a list of the personally identifying information belonging to each of us who did not want the injection might be supplied to the department of health or authorities. Just hearing those words in conjunction with being asked to reverify my addresses, email and current phone numbers was disturbing enough that I voiced my objections with some legal basis and quit days later. In our volunteer positions, many people have refused the injections without any pressure or action taken against them.
Rosco1
24th April 2021, 16:48
Well I’ll be going for my 2nd vaccination tomorrow.
I was telling all my family not to get the vaccine and all of them label me a conspiracy theorist!
They wouldn't listen to reason, but blindly believing everything that was on the news (BBC & Sky News). They all have had their vaccines now and applaud it.
Then I was told that if I wanted to carry on seeing family members, I would have to be vaccinated or they would not let me see them.
I reluctantly agreed, as I believe family is more important than anything.
After my first vaccine, I had a severe headache that lasted two days, also had a lot of sweating.
Last week I had chest pain but chose to ignore it as I don’t want to end up in hospital.
I would rather die at Home! Lol
Bill Ryan
24th April 2021, 17:05
Then I was told that if I wanted to carry on seeing family members, I would have to be vaccinated or they would not let me see them.
I reluctantly agreed, as I believe family is more important than anything.Well, I most sincerely sympathize. :flower:
I have to say, though, if I was ever in that situation myself I'd simply stand my ground. What I'd be quite sure of is that their own stance wouldn't last more than a few months.
This is a sovereignty issue, and there aren't many issues more important than that. What you were experiencing was a form of family abuse, nothing less.
Delight
24th April 2021, 17:17
Then I was told that if I wanted to carry on seeing family members, I would have to be vaccinated or they would not let me see them.
I reluctantly agreed, as I believe family is more important than anything.Well, I most sincerely sympathize. :flower:
I have to say, though, if I was ever in that situation myself I'd simply stand my ground. What I'd be quite sure of is that their own stance wouldn't last more than a few months.
This is a sovereignty issue, and there aren't many issues more important than that. What you were experiencing was a form of family abuse, nothing less.
I went to a Memorial service today for a friend who passed before Christmas. When she was suffering a brain tumor, at the end when she was losing her ability to care for herself, her family could not be bothered to step in and really support her. Now they are all sad. Now they are all showing her pictures on a slide show and paying respects. This family was all about how Marghe needed to be more like them and they brow beat her except she stood up so they were denying her their "love". Families may come and families may go and in the end, we are left for ourselves... TO THINE OWN SELF BE TRUE. The hardest struggle of our lives is to learn SELF LOVE. SO, is it loving to SELF to take a treatment just because others want us to do it? BIG QUESTION.
Johan (Keyholder)
26th April 2021, 10:22
Like everyone else in the restinghome where he is, my father (92) got his second "shot" a few weeks ago.
Now, he told me on the phone, that he has "trouble breathing".
This can't be a coincidence I think.
I will be back when I know more.
One can only hope for the best.
TargeT
30th April 2021, 17:50
I'm going to leave work for 2 hours today and take a nap... I mean, "get my shot"... can't complain about that!
Thanks clown world!
(that's my only feed back, people in virginia are crazy, almost everyone is rushing out to get the shots.. Its a very blue state and I'm very anti blue currently (not that red is much better, but they generally leave you alone more)
pyrangello
30th April 2021, 18:09
Nice one target, lol, So check this out sent by a nurse on the frontlines, EXCLUSIVE - Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’
His main points included:
There is “no possibility” current variants of COVID-19 will escape immunity. It is “just a lie.”
Yet, governments around the world are repeating this lie, indicating that we are witnessing not just “convergent opportunism,” but a “conspiracy.” Meanwhile media outlets and Big Tech platforms are committed to the same propaganda and the censorship of the truth.
Pharmaceutical companies have already begun to develop unneeded “top-up” (“booster”) vaccines for the “variants.” The companies are planning to manufacture billions of vials, in addition to the current experimental COVID-19 “vaccine” campaign.
Regulatory agencies like the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the European Medicines Agency, have announced that since these “top-up” vaccines will be so similar to the prior injections which were approved for emergency use authorization, drug companies will not be required to “perform any clinical safety studies.”
Thus, this virtually means that design and implementation of repeated and coerced mRNA vaccines “go from the computer screen of a pharmaceutical company into the arms of hundreds of millions of people, [injecting] some superfluous genetic sequence for which there is absolutely no need or justification.”
Why are they doing this? Since no benign reason is apparent, the use of vaccine passports along with a “banking reset” could issue in a totalitarianism unlike the world has ever seen. Recalling the evil of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, “mass depopulation” remains a logical outcome.
The fact that this at least could be true means everyone must “fight like crazy to make sure that system never forms.”
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
janette
30th April 2021, 18:58
While I have not received the injection, my family members who sought it had disturbing reactions ranging from nightmarish to simply unsettling. Oddly, and maybe it is some form of baffling cognitive dissonance, despite their apparent physical reactions afterward, these relatives marched along to get their subsequent injections only questioning their symptoms as ANYTHING other than an immune response to the Covid inoculation. "Could it be (this)? Could it be (that)?.. Should I be concerned? What should I do? What do you think it is?.. No, no it's definitely not a vaccine reaction."
Four members in our family that I know of, have thus far received the injections. The first was my grandmother, who was shuttled to a clinic by concerned relatives just as soon as Pfizer and local hospitals made them available to the community. Per my aunt, who frantically called for advice afterward:
That day, my grandmother was happy and capable when she left home, feeling reassured by the encouragement of family that she would soon be protected against the virus. She was without any deficiencies or known health problems, not on any medications, able to move, interact and do almost all things carefully on her own(except drive). When she returned home that day, she was still very well and even danced about jokingly. Then apparently within a two-hour span, she began coughing violently, lost mobility and started to vomit copious amounts of projectile black fluid that terrified her and overwhelmed my aunt. Like something out of a horror movie or nightmare, it was everywhere and staining everything, without cessation. The sheer amount of liquid purged in the course of 12 hours and a complete lack of any odor to it, as there might typically be with old blood or vomit, was notably strange.
My aunt called the hospital in desperation for an ambulance to come, but was told that they would not do anything at all to help my grandmother, that she would be better kept at home and then the person who answered the call flat-out refused to record information regarding the "possible" vaccine reaction. Other doctors were called through the night and by morning, a medication was found to successfully stop the vomiting and help her sleep. At that point, my grandmother could no longer talk, see clearly, hear, move or eat on her own. She has been in bed since, on oxygen and is very frail now, but gratefully still with us. That occurred after a single injection. No causes have been mentioned by doctors or visiting nurses...she is basically in hospice now.
My father-in-law (in his 60s) also received his Pfizer injections and within two weeks of taking the second shot, lost all of his ability to think clearly, cannot remember for longer than a few seconds, can no longer navigate where he is, what he has or hasn't done, what he is looking at, what familiar things are called, nor can he carry on any kind of cohesive conversation. The only thing I can think to compare it to, is very sudden and extreme dementia. We were not aware he had received any covid injections until we were trying to troubleshoot, days ago, what exactly was happening along with the other worried family members. Doctors haven't found anything wrong and have not returned any of the extensive lab work or diagnostic tests to the family yet. Their silence to our concern is deafening, but his GP has reminded him ( & family) to be sure and come get his third vaccine in 8 months.
My sister, who is much younger, has also received the injection. I don't know which one, but think it was Moderna. Beginning the first day, she developed numerous symptoms from being sick, feverish, dizzy and having the typical huge circular rash "covid arm" reaction found in internet searches, to now developing numerous clustered clear blisters on her skin.
Lastly, another very dear family member received the Moderna injection and has experienced noticeable cognitive decline and drastic personality changes in a short period of time- night and day type changes that we never could have imagined. That particular person is a little too close for me to describe in any more detail, but my heart goes out to anyone and their families who have been harmed by these seemingly new technologies.
OMG..I'm so sorry for your dear grandmother and family. This is appalling what is happening to her and others..I mean what the he'll is this ??..I'm dumbfounded..I don't know what else to say ,I'm just sat here in shock...
pyrangello
2nd May 2021, 15:19
Stopped at my mom's yesterday, as I told you last week my uncle died of I think getting that shot 2 weeks ago, he had Mersa 10 years ago which I think is important to state. Well yesterday my mom got a text my cousin 's wife died yesterday, She was 65 , had a kidney transplant years ago, My cousin got sick with covid first and then her too, he was in the hospital for 1 month and she was for 2 months. She did get the shot prior to getting sick. I'm still trying to digest this 2 family deaths in 3 weeks. Complications prior to and shots as well, I know of 5 people personally who have passed away and had the shot. However there is no statistics for any of these individuals as no autopsies are being down as it is listed as covid no matter what. So we will never know what really was the catalyst of each death and only guess. My cousins wife was extremely afraid of catching this, my cousin wanted a kiss and she wouldn't and then the one time she did , that is when she got sick as he was still out and about at work everyday. Really sucks. My cousin now is being riddled with guilt that it was his fault. This is not good at all.
This virus strain is also running thru my wifes work here in town, she does the custodial at this large business, the other janitor guy came down with this virus 2 weeks ago, he has been married for over 20 years, his wife had been very sickly for years, well he caught it at work, gave it to his wife and kid, she died this past Wednesday. No word on shot or not. I'm just banking on since me and my wife had this virus 3-4 years ago and it was bad for a week that we have the antibodies to not get it again. Lots to process isn't it. Really sad these good people leaving the earth, its really not fair . Yes D-3s and everything else, I got that part.
Delight
2nd May 2021, 16:10
Yes D-3s and everything else, I got that part.
So sorry to hear about your family deaths and the others you know who are ill. Are these illnesses being treated by the protocols available such as Ivermectin, HCQ, the supplements all together as prophylaxis then treatment? There are some online sources for prescriptions through AFLD (https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.org/covid-19/treatments) and other resources.
This illness has treatment. A year later people are still being deprived of viable medical care deliberately. People like you can bring the information forward. I have also wondered if the protocols can help post vax treatment? If the spike protein is the issue and its effects?
One of the most confusing issues still in the alt community is the divide between people. Some think that the whole thing is a hoax with no virus at all and then others DO think there is a virus but over blown. I am more interested now in how we can create our own vibrancy of resistance to any force that may undermine us. If we focus on our own and others essential terrain, amplifying all our innate strengths, we can learn how to live with any external threats.
Hope you receive good news from your family.
Sue (Ayt)
2nd May 2021, 16:23
So sorry for your losses, pyrangello. It is really making me wonder just what is going on in Michigan, as it seems quite different from what we are experiencing here where I live. (we moved here from Northern Michigan.)
My cousin lost both her husband and her mother in January. They all lived together in their home in Northern Michigan. They all got the virus. My Aunt died quickly, my cousin's husband was hospitalized and released, but died at home. (he had been sickly before, though) My cousin had pneumonia briefly, but recovered fairly quick. I don't know if they had the shots or not.
Bill Ryan
4th May 2021, 20:59
Well my brother got his second shot and two hours later we were talking on the phone and he just sort of faded away. He told me his head was feeling odd. I called my sister, she went to his house, he is now in ICU with a brain blot clot. The doctors have him on blood thinner and think they may have caught it in time. I am not allowed in ICU because I am unvaccinated. My entire family has gotten the jab. They think I am crazy for refusing. So I await a phone call from my sister who is with him.
Today, I am just feeling very sad at all that is happening in this world and to us as a people.Dear Friends, Karen has asked me to please make this post for her. She's tried to share her personal update, but at the moment she simply can't do it.
Her brother's name was Marty. He was a strong, healthy man. The blood thinner that the doctors gave him was insufficient to remedy the clotting, so they put him in an induced coma.
Marty died on the evening of 30 April, four days ago.
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Karen's sister called her when the doctors said he hadn't long to live. Karen had her put her phone to his ear, so she could speak to him. Although he had never regained consciousness, Karen felt with certainty that on some level he absolutely heard her.
There are terrible things happening at the moment.
Karen had very little sleep that night. In the morning she got up to feed her animals, and learned, just a handful of hours after Marty had passed, that her best friend had had the shot as well. She had been very unwilling to take it, but it was mandated by her employer.
Marty's blood clot struck him after 2 hours. Karen's best friend, whose name I'll withhold right now, had one whole side of her face go numb a mere 30 minutes after her shot.
This is what's called Bell's Palsy, though that's just a name for a set of neurological symptoms that no-one actually understands. And soon after that, her hands started tingling. Three and a half days later, she is in exactly the same condition and nothing is better.
Karen, who is a healer in her own right, has sent her a package of remedies. The doctors themselves can't do a thing.
"It might go away", she was told. The guy actually said those words to her. To me, the sheer incompetence and utter lack of care and empathy beggars belief.
So, Karen is rather under the gun at the moment. But she's doing okay, and the mods have gathered round her in our own little virtual circle.
And all this time she's still having migrant intruders on her land, often at night, which she gets up to deal with on her own, rifle in hand. (And, also all this time, there are idiots on the forum who are almost as irresponsible and unaware as her best friend's doctor, who maintain that all that is somehow quite okay and ethically justified. However, this is NOT the thread to discuss that.)
Karen asks that those who know her phone number do not, please, call her to talk, as she just can't do that right now. Of course, she will see any replies on the thread and will also read PMs as normal.
:heart:
greybeard
4th May 2021, 21:10
My heart goes out to you Karen -- I have a twin daughter with the same name as you so your sad news all the more felt.
You did the best you could for your family and no doubt continue to do so.
With love
Chris
janette
4th May 2021, 21:25
My heart goes out to you Karen 💜..so very sorry you lost your brother xx I pray your friend recovers x love and peace to you xxx
happyuk
4th May 2021, 21:43
So very sad to hear of this.
You're in our thoughts Karen.
I am lost for words, Karen.
My mother has also been vaccinated, twice now, and it feels like I will lose her soon, too.
We all know that this has all been planned, and we know what to expect, yet it's just over-whelming to have to stand by and watch.
All I can do is send you love and healing light for you, your family and your friend right now. And a lot of virtual hugs, as well.
RunningDeer
4th May 2021, 23:31
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Sending, sending, sending
Arms and wings,
From far and wide
To Marty, Friend and Karen
May you feel the Love, Peace,
And blanketed Protection
From all dimensions
of known and unknown.
With heart,
Paula ♡
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Sérénité
4th May 2021, 23:55
Karen
I am so sorry for your loss and to hear all you are dealing with.
Sending you my thoughts, condolences, love & a virtual hug :hug:
Delight
5th May 2021, 00:08
The loss of your brother and your friend's condition and all you are going through now is so tough. Sending my love to you and your family. Maggie
Anna70
5th May 2021, 00:30
I cannot find the words, Karen, but my heart too goes out to you. Wishing you much strength, love and support throughout all this, and healing wishes for your friend.
So sorry Karen for the devastating loss of your brother. I join many others in wishing you the strength to pull through this. Words are so inadequate. :heart:
Patient
5th May 2021, 02:52
Karen, my thoughts are with you. So sorry for your loss.
Hi Karen,
I am shocked and terribly sad for the tragic loss of your brother. I don't know what to say. Please know that you are very much loved in this truth-seeker community. My most sincere and heartfelt condolences.
Fifi
Journeyman
5th May 2021, 06:12
Just wanted to send a message of support, condolences and friendship to you Karen from across the ocean. I hope that time brings healing and that the good memories offer you comfort. :flower:
pueblo
5th May 2021, 06:57
Karen, my deepest sympathies to you and your family. I pray for strength and wisdom for you all at this dark time.
Trisher
5th May 2021, 07:24
So sorry for your brother's death Karen. What are words at times like this. Sending you sincere heartfelt sympathy and support.
Trisher
Karen, I am very sorry for the untimely loss of your brother. There has been so much pain involved with these vaccines. Pain we will never hear about. This is a very critical situation we are living through.
Metaphor
5th May 2021, 09:55
Karen, big warm loving and caring hugs from Sweden. What a terrible thing that has happened to you. I fear this is something most, if not all, of us will have to face very soon.
Gemma13
5th May 2021, 10:41
Oh Karen. There are just no words to adequately express the Love and Compassion we all have for you in having to cope with this overwhelming and senseless tragedy.
Sending hugs from Australia :heart::bearhug::heart:
leavesoftrees
5th May 2021, 11:29
dear Karen , this is just so awful for you to bear. my thoughts are with you
Brigantia
5th May 2021, 12:33
I'm also lost for words; you'll be in my thoughts and prayers Karen, much love to you and your family on the loss of your dear brother.
Bill Ryan
5th May 2021, 13:06
Another update from Karen. Her best friend's name is Cindy, and she has said it's okay to share that. It makes this otherwise anonymous person's ordeal a little more real and personal.
These things are really happening to real people, in their hundreds of thousands. (See https://openvaers.com. The current injuries tally stands at 923,209, almost all of those numbers from the recent 'vaccine' rollout.)
Karen reports that Cindy is scared, and she intends to talk with her today now that Cindy has started on Karen's remedy package. The doctors either have no clue what's happening — or if they do, they're irresponsible and cowardly in the extreme.
:flower:
Tigger
5th May 2021, 13:47
<snip> The doctors either have no clue what's happening — or if they do, they're irresponsible and cowardly in the extreme.
:flower:
“Hear-hear”
Bassplayer1
5th May 2021, 13:48
I'm saddened to hear this news today. Sending love to Karen and Pyrangello xx
I'm speechless and heartbroken. When I feel this way, it seems the only thing I can do is to meditate on absolute love and hope it can spread out into the world. For what it's worth, my thoughts and energy are with you.
Stephanie
5th May 2021, 17:51
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Dearest, dearest Karen and family,
My heart reaches out to you all...
....all my loving starlight blessings.
💖💖:bearhug:💖💖
jaybee
5th May 2021, 19:38
Sincere condolences to you Karen - I feel upset and angry for you that this has happened to your brother - and that your friend has been injured -
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this is a ridiculous and mind boggling situation - in the case of Marty it surely could be classed as manslaughter at the very least - and for Cindy... grievous bodily harm?...
I understand that vaccine producing companies have been given immunity from prosecution - but what about the people who are actually putting the needle into arms ... gun manufacturers aren't taken to court when a crime is committed but the person firing the gun is...
Perhaps people getting the jab could be encouraged to record the name of the nurse or whoever is giving it (and let them know that they are)... so that if they are injured they can be named and prosecuted if at all possible.... or if the worst happens and they die... that their family can pursue a legal case...
if individuals or organizations being forced to do the dirty work and give the jab realize that they could face legal consequences they might rebel.... and refuse to do it...?
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Condolences also to pyrangello and any one else who has been bereaved...
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EarthGirl
8th May 2021, 20:30
I am so very Sorry Karen... There are no words!... Hugs x
Rosco1
25th May 2021, 12:37
Sorry to hear about your loss Karen & Pyrangello, much love to you both.
I had my first vaccine in mid February but decided not to take 2nd vaccine after Bills comments. I also refuse to have any covid test up my nose. My sister bought home a covid home testing kit. I was asked to put it up my nose, but would oblige if I used an ordinary cotton bud in my nose and then transferred this to the spatula that was the test kit. Everyone agreed it was a good idea at that point and no I don't have covid 19.
Well here is an update of my symptoms: I've been getting lots of dreams on satanic themes and the word Jabulon repeated over and over again to the point of waking me up. To counteract this I just kept repeating the word Jesus and it fades away then.
Today I found what looks like a wire (Morgellons) on the back of my right hand. It is 10mm in length. Now kept in a glass jar.
Got to keep fighting the system!! :ninja:
Billy
25th May 2021, 12:47
Sorry to hear about your loss Karen & Pyrangello, much love to you both.
I had my first vaccine in mid February but decided not to take 2nd vaccine after Bills comments. I also refuse to have any covid test up my nose. My sister bought home a covid home testing kit. I was asked to put it up my nose, but would oblige if I used an ordinary cotton bud in my nose and then transferred this to the spatula that was the test kit. Everyone agreed it was a good idea at that point and no I don't have covid 19.
Well here is an update of my symptoms: I've been getting lots of dreams on satanic themes and the word Jabulon repeated over and over again to the point of waking me up. To counteract this I just kept repeating the word Jesus and it fades away then.
Today I found what looks like a wire (Morgellons) on the back of my right hand. It is 10mm in length. Now kept in a glass jar.
Got to keep fighting the system!! :ninja:
Was the wire lying on the back of your hand or coming out from under the skin ?
Rosco1
25th May 2021, 13:16
Hi Billy,
It was lying on the back of my hand, while typing on my laptop and I noticed a glint, so took it off and examined it.
I had morgellons several years ago, so know what it feels like.
So no, I did not feel anything this morning.
But will be more observant from now.
dearest Karen
please forgive me .. i just found out today .. a little while ago .. you must have thought me completely daft and insensitive in all our communications since and me never expressing my sorrow at your loss ... i feel so stupid! and i'm so very sorry ... and so sorry to have not known ..
i would have reached out tomorrow but Bill's post said here is best and i want to respect and honor your wishes
my prayers for you to have peace and a covering of grace to surround you and to ease the pain in your heart ... you are one of the most courageous and strongest person that i know and i'm completely in awe of your grace and your love and your kindness and compassion even during this difficult time ..
i know you said you were coming soon ... but now i will be happy to go to you ... and until then i send you a huge cyber hug and please know you are in my heart and in my prayers now each time i think of you ... i have no words dear friend .. just lots of love to send your way ... you are a magnificent light and all of us sure are blessed to have you!
:bearhug:
please know you are deeply cared for!
Dennis Leahy
17th June 2021, 22:01
I'm late catching this terrible news of Karen's brother Marty passing. So so sad. Very sorry for your loss, Karen. I wouldn't blame you for being stuck at the 'anger' stage for a long, long time.
Almost everyone that I know has gotten injected - none of them questioned it, nor has any idea whatsoever what actually got injected into them. They will all line up for the inevitable "boosters" too. And then for the covid-20, covid-21, covid-22,... injections.
Ernie Nemeth
17th June 2021, 22:10
I no longer feel these folks are even the same species anymore. I feel nothing for them but pity.
Which for me brings up an interesting prejudice that I thought I had mastered and done away with...but is coming back in spades. I had felt that most people are inferior to me and my friends because we stay informed and we do our homework. We study and we postulate. We are intrigued, we are curious. The masses are none of those things, going so far as to mock those who are.
RunningDeer
17th June 2021, 22:39
I'm late catching this terrible news of Karen's brother Marty passing. So so sad. Very sorry for your loss, Karen. I wouldn't blame you for being stuck at the 'anger' stage for a long, long time.
Hi Dennis. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/hat-baseball.gif That’s the latest in Karen’s on-going saga.
Check out Karen's thread: The migration crisis on the US-Mexico border (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114419-The-migration-crisis-on-the-US-Mexico-border&p=1418580&viewfull=1#post1418580)
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