'Fleeing the Ship'? (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)

[Praxis]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102


So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

First, is this real?

I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

What do you all think?

Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?

[Arcturian108]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102


So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

First, is this real?

I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

What do you all think?

Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?

Alex Jones is not to be trusted. He threw Wolfgang Halbig under the bus when questioning the Sandy Hook Elementary School hoax was no longer serving him.

[Open Minded Dude]

A few years ago until up to 2018 or so (hence also after the Trump election win and during Qanon times) I used to watch Infowars or Alex Jones Channel on YT and sometimes read on their site. I never saw a lot about Qanon material there. I remember once I even searched for it and did not find a lot. Certainly he did not ignore it entirely but I think he did not overtly push or promote it either.

[thepainterdoug]

i think we will see many fleeing various ships. no different than in politics, careers and with money on the line. Q was never defined. was it a person,a consortium of military?? i never knew , and only recently heard the name Ezra Cohen Watnick associated with the term. But why is Q hard to believe in? its as easy as not believing. it either is, or isnt.

[Hermoor]

In Glasgow we don't call it 'Deep State'. We call it 'Deep Anus' because it stinks and people like the 17th letter of alphabet brigade, Alex Jones, Robert Steele and many others like bending us over a barrel and pulling our pants down, the cheeky chaps.

The link works, but the broadcast won't play automatically. It's Kev Baker at his impish best back in September already having had a gutful of the hopium and sell outs.

http://tfrlive.com/trusttheplan-or-so-says-deepanus-94703/

I believe Alex Jones might have come to the game as an unmarked card in the early days, but I don't know for sure. At any rate he appears to have been compromised quite some time ago unfortunately.

[Journeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102


So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

First, is this real?

I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

What do you all think?

Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?


In my view, he was, is and will continue to be controlled opposition. He acts as a lightning rod, attracting dissident voices, offering a platform but, by association, fatally tainting their capacity to reach a wider mainstream audience. The cartoonish gestures, the overacting, it helps to set a particular tone.

9kAEoCHANYY

[Bill Ryan]

Alex Jones has [almost] always been critical of QAnon.

Here's an interesting and detailed 5 minute audio segment from 8 August 2020, in which he lays out what he knows.


https://projectavalon.net/Alex_Jones_on_Qanon_8_Aug_2020.mp3

[Mike Gorman]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102


So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

First, is this real?

I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

What do you all think?

Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?

Alex jones has been talking against the Q movement for a long time, he views it as being bogus, a hijack of the MAGA movement so he is being consistent with this narrative. He always claimed to know the original setup of Q, that this was then taken over by a separate group.
You must think what you will, I consider Alex to be sincere in his beliefs, I do not personally think he is a NWO stooge at all-he is a genuine Texan maverick who set up his own media company, he is a flawed human being like the rest of us, I don't buy all the scuttlebut about Alex Jones, it is mostly envy and political disagreement.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Alex to me is a showman, a preacher, a salesman, a good ole boy and lots of Texas snake oil thrown in the mix. He has sincere beliefs and has been instrumental in pulling back the curtain that obscures many active truths. However, he has been allowed to continue as controlled opposition because he is just in the other side of credible and that can used to delegitimize his info as necessary. Alex is not above getting played - he realizes that and it makes him angry. We have to use enormous discernment and a hefty dose of critical thinking- always asking ourselves “who benefits”?

[Kryztian]

I rarely watch InfoWars, but I have seen clips were other hosts enthusiastically support Qanon. One of them said repeatedly and emphatically "You must believe that Q-anon is real and true", basically turning belief in Q into a fundamentalist religion.

I don't know how much Jones exercises editorial power over his other show hosts or expects them to toe the line is his wake, so I don't hold him responsible for that.

[ExomatrixTV]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102

So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

First, is this real?

I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

What do you all think?

Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?

Its real ... but - e v e r y t h i n g - is context ... realize how many FAKE people can pose as "Qanon" or Q and even MORE useful idiots do not use any real discernment skills spreading so much BS filled with tons of wacko theories mixed with SOME elements of truth but NO accountability nor transparency is doomed to failure. All "good intentions" of original Qanon / Q people can so easily be hijacked you really have to be stupid, blind & deaf NOT to see this coming.


I know I sound harsh and unfiltered ... but am truly FED UP just like Alex Jones is (maybe even more angry than Alex that so many seem not get it, or do not want to).

Have challenged so many different types of "Q followers" on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook since day one they started so am totally aware how they respond to me and I always defended the ORIGINAL intent of the Q network "White (or grey) Hat Hackers", people exposing the pedo-rings sex-slave human trafficking, government insiders (whistler-blowers) with a conscience leaking stuff that can lead to arrests being made etc. etc.) at the same time I warned them how easy it is to hijack this concept by those who want to use it against all of us.

cheers,
John


related older insights from me and i quote:"


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/icons/icon3.png No Qanon Accountability? Here is why ...

Lyran.Sun (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?45710-Lyran.Sun) [quote]: "Okay broski I wanna bring forward some matters to you. You already know the far left globalist are going mental on their various agendas alongside implementing their transhumanist agenda. They run social media & will retaliate to anyone who opposes their narrative. I suspect you are now on gangstalking blacklisted target list. If you are giving yourself a public image & reputation on activist work such as opposing 5G setups. They will mark you as a potential threat. Its always better to use an anonymous identity in activist work. If you are aggressive in your approach they will counter it ruthlessly. There is the counter operative white hats who are higher authority to the globalist. There are the various factions of light masons. If you want to solve issues directly with them. Setup a diplomatic sit down with either the white hats or light masons & discuss the matters. That is a better solution. Hope you consider my suggestions. Safe." [unquote]


My response:

@Lyran.Sun (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?45710-Lyran.Sun) I do not feel the need to compromise nor to be "diplomatic" to assumed "white moles" or "white masons" or "white insiders" or "white hats" when it is obvious all smoke & mirrors + quicksand + minefield.
Just using my own intuition aka unbound creative mind which is endless https://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/wink_animated.gif I do not mind having set-backs, as I always get help one way or the other ... because for any action there is an equal reaction (cosmic law).

No need to "play a role" to master "the game" that is played, If I did I lose contact with my true-self that is beyond their (loop-hole) rules & (artificial) boundaries.

"Perception Wars" can only be won if you have contact with the "neutral observer" awareness that is beyond any duality thinking and is always effortless if you let go of all fears 100% ... Because of my Near Death Experience ... I do not need any beLIEve system to operate on this Earth anymore. I fear no death, is part of letting go of mass conditioning that is programmed in to all of us.

Inspiring all kinds of insiders questioning their own "role play" within the corrupt system, because am beyond "diplomatic", beyond fear based compromises.

No need to be nice to anyone, because that is a mind trap. You are actually not helping people "playing nice" if you feel you are actually cover up what you really think or feel but helping the system by "playing nice" all the time.

Sure I can get things done being anonymous, but at the same time many can hijack my identity as well, posing as me spreading dis-info. Which is even easier when you work via fake names to begin with. Anonymous network like "Qanon" etc. can not be held accountable because there are always 1000 excuses to hide yourself from if you chose to be a part of that system of thinking. No big deal. So obvious to me.

I rather want see the real deal directly! Sure it is "fascinating" & sometimes perfectly makes sense, but still it can easily be hijacked by abusers anytime anyplace.

The growth of Alternative Media (Video & Social Media) platforms is growing much much faster than you think!

Cheers,
John Kuhles aka ExomatrixTV 20-10-2019
Founder of Stop5G on Twitter, Fb Group, Page & Stop5G.net (http://Stop5G.net)

Ps. Am Dutch, English is not my native language, please forgive me if I express myself not in a 100% perfect way.

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For much more deep insights ... Project Avalon Members can study this: The Q Material pros and cons (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?180-The-Q-Material-pros-and-cons)
⚠️ tinyurl.com/JohnKuhles-AlexJones-Rant (http://tinyurl.com/JohnKuhles-AlexJones-Rant)

[Savannah]

Wonder if this has anything to do with it.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-12-situation-update-jan-12-2021-trump-unconventional-warfare.html

Mike Adams:
The real story of how US Secret Service tried to set up Alex Jones to be charged with terrorism on Jan 6th. But they failed and Jones averted the trap. (This is based in part on my private phone call with Alex Jones yesterday).

[ExomatrixTV]

Alex Jones and Owen Shroyer break down the news that the Wall Street Journal actually admitted to making false claims about Alex Jones, and clarified that he was calling for peaceful action and attempting to lead the agitated crowd around the Capitol.

Wall Street Journal Retracts Claim That Alex Jones "Encouraged" Capitol Storming


more info here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113547-Stop-The-Steal-Save-America-Rally-Washington-DC-6-Jan-2021&p=1403275#post1403275)

To all Alex Jones haters, do you really think Wall Street Journal and the likes do not have their own agenda of framing key-people for decades? False accusations & misrepresentations being repeated over and over and over until most assume "must" be "true" then ...

The network of MSM lies 24/7 is so systematical & huge that people assume they "must" be "true" then become an AGENT to ridicule even more with conjecture full of cheap assumptions & "hear say".

Using, what I call "kicking an open door" rhetoric that have some "funny logic" within the statement but NOT necessarily reflect nuance & the bigger picture ... only serving own bias & close-mindfulness to "feel better" NOT to consider anything Alex Jones has to offer.

Am used to study 1000s lame & pathetic excuses people use NOT to investigate what is really happening ... I get numb when reading all cheap assumptions about AJ. Yes he has flaws and I can name them easily. But so much he warned about 2 decades ago is unfolding by the day now ... same for David Icke.

Rhetorical question: Does (or must) someone need to be "liked" first ... before people consider what is said? ... Or can you see beyond that and use only that what can lead to your own path/journey of discoveries? ... Practicing own discernment-skills giving credit to those who stood up to fight for justice.


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“First they censored Alex Jones on multiple big platforms - but many didn’t watch him, so they said nothing.

Then they censored moderate conservatives - but many aren’t conservatives, so they said nothing.

Then they censored the current sitting president - but half of USA didn’t vote for him, so they said nothing.

Now they gonna (want to) take over (or take away) communities, jobs, houses, rights, children, freedoms and most can not say anything about it anymore”

How the hell does it come to that? ... Anyone?

We suppose to believe nobody saw this #Agenda2030 "The Great Reset" coming?

cheers,
John Kuhles
January 12, 2021

[ExomatrixTV]

This Forum Thread Title:"Fleeing the Ship (Alex Jones doesn't support Qanon)" has 2 assumptions:

01. He suppose to be "on the ship" which he never was :facepalm: ... Alex Jones had mixed ideas (https://projectavalon.net/Alex_Jones_on_Qanon_8_Aug_2020.mp3) about it for a long time (just like me). Part of the original Qanon could be genuine with good intentions but most is totally hijacked by posers & instigators.

02. Allegedly Alex does "not support" Qanon ... :suspicious: assuming he "fully" DID support Qanon ... again it is and was a MIXED assessment that has been explained ad nauseam ... but most who like to judge from the side-lines (may) never heard that (what else is new?).


It comes to a point it is getting really annoying. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/rant.gif

Throw all nuance out of the window is what the majority tend to do in 2020 and I guess it will only get worse in 2021. :twitch:

... and yes, at times, I can be guilty of not always being nuanced myself but I eventually adding some disclaimers/elaborations :typing: as nobody is 100% perfect.

cheers,
John

[ExomatrixTV]

To sum it all up for the doubters:

AkuFaUaaZYI


Self-humor is the best defense against all madness ;)

[Fellow Aspirant]

Alex Jones and his brand have been in trouble since 2017 when his wife left him and sued him for custody of their children. During the subsequent legal proceedings in which she claimed that he was unhinged and unstable and subject to wild beliefs and behaviours, he recanted his previous claims about a lot of things, among them QAnon and the existence of a "Deep State" cabal. His legal team said that he had used these issues to generate an audience that would support him financially - that he did not believe in what he had been expounding for so many years - that it was all theatre. He lost the case and custody of his children. Likewise, when he was sued in a real court of law by the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre, he again claimed that he didn't really believe that it had been faked. Once the fantasy bubble that he had created for himself and his listeners/viewers was pricked by those occupying a genuine reality, it burst.

Since then, of course, he has recanted again saying that he DID believe the conspiracy theories that he yelled into his microphone (Gay frogs people! Wake up!) and has had some success in regaining an audience, but peoples' memories are not short enough for him to have yet rebuilt his edifice of lies and hatred into the desired source of income that he seeks. But it's not for lack of trying. I'm betting that he isn't ever going to go legit - screaming and scamming is all he knows.

Reality. What a concept.

B

[ExomatrixTV]

older quote (insight) 0f mine that will be 100% relevant forever:

Nobody is "Controlled Opposition (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset&p=1383862&viewfull=1#post1383862)" (called "shills") on the soul-assumption "because" they are "allowed" to continue on big platforms. ... I can give you so many VALID reasons why this is a 100% BASELESS assumption serving nobody and can not be seen as the "ultimate evidence" of anything. It is in my view extreme POOR conjecture at best.

Many who uses that assumption because they may not like the person, or it is just jealousy, or they can not follow (comprehend) the person, or they find him not in alignment with their (dogmatic) Christian beliefs, or they repeat the troll narrative without realizing it.

If anyone starts injecting "CONTROLLED OPPOSITION" without real substantial tangible evidence it is a DISSERVICE to us all. In my book, people doing that are using tactics that is exactly what control-freak "oppositions" do! ... People assuming they "fight tyranny" creating a new form of tyranny (thought policing others in to a new mold ... an one-sided "correct" mind-set).

And then you have SOME people with low self-esteem projecting their fears (incompetence) on others, assuming it "helps" to inject (baseless) "controlled opposition" worries/insinuations.

I had similar (heated) discussions in the past about the assumption that "only dead whistler-blowers are for real". The: "If you are not dead you are not legit" assumption. This discussion started shortly after Milton William (Bill) Cooper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper) (who I personally met in 1993) died in 2001. Some of his fanatic followers claimed that as long as Alex Jones is alive that suppose to be "evidence" he is "not legit' aka "controlled opposition" ... I told them Bill Cooper had to be alive (longer time) to do his job as a whistler-blower, so back then if we apply the same "logic" he was "not legit"? Do you see the stupidity of it? Total Logic-Fallacy.


But I DO agree with the "Martyr Effect" when someone dies who try to expose incredible corruptions & deceptions at high places ... Which can increase the focus of attention of so-called "neutral" people (silent majority) that would normally not consider to research what is claimed but may do it much faster after some-one died! ... This effect is one of many reasons why they let people live, if they created too much exposure already. It only draws more attention if a (profound) whistler-blower dies.

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
October 17, 2020

[Akasha]

.....Likewise, when he was sued in a real court of law by the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre, he again claimed that he didn't really believe that it had been faked. Once the fantasy bubble that he had created for himself and his listeners/viewers was pricked by those occupying a genuine reality, it burst....

Are you insinuating that he created the notion that Sandy Hook was a hoax?

As I recollect, it was the bizarre behaviour of the parents of the victims (think Robbie Parker et al), the even more bizarre behaviour of the soon to die coroner, the identity of the assailant (him or his brother etc...), the appalling crisis actors, the disused appearance of the school, inside and out.......and let's not forget the testimony of school safety inspector, Wolfgang Halbig. I could continue but, as I'm sure you are well aware, there are several threads here dedicated to the subject, all brimming with valid reasons to question the validity of Sandy Hook, with or without the blessing of some co-intel pro clown.

[Journeyman]

Alex Jones has [almost] always been critical of QAnon.

Here's an interesting and detailed 5 minute audio segment from 8 August 2020, in which he lays out what he knows.


https://projectavalon.net/Alex_Jones_on_Qanon_8_Aug_2020.mp3


That's a good clip and AJ is far more credible when he's not gurning for effect. I think better of him for listening to it, he's someone I've avoided for years, but at least in this instance he looks to have tried to show some discernment rather than chasing the quick buck.



Nobody is "Controlled Opposition (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset&p=1383862&viewfull=1#post1383862)" (called "shills") on the soul-assumption "because" they are "allowed" to continue on big platforms.


I agree that its lazy thinking to just immediately label everyone who has continued presence as controlled opposition.

I do however take that into account when assessing someone, as well as the level of external promotion they get from channels which look well integrated into the mainstream. If your goal is influencing the masses, allowing some fringe discussion to take place helps to validate the system. As long as you control who gets pushed to wider audiences these channels could operate more as a release valve or a honey trap to steer dissenting opinion in a safe direction.

Think of the city of Zion in the Matrix movies. It's tolerated by the machines because it's not a threat, but as soon as they think it's grown too large they wipe it out. If Infowars continues year after year to attract a mass audience, is it a threat or a release valve and honey trap?

[palehorse]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1348072426899460102


So Alex Jones now says he doesnt buy Q and that he was onto it from day 1.

First, is this real?

I dont really watch him? But not deep fake correct?

What do you all think?

Is alex jones now a liar traitor deep state stooge?

He is over the top to me, more like an actor than anything else, also for what I heard (sorry I can't prove that) his family are Cia assets, Alex are just playing his part, there is quite a few info about it available on Usenet.. last time I decided to watch some video on info wars, the video stops every 5 minutes to adverts some ****ty products to boost your health haahah I gave up the video in the third adv. no thanks.

I would take anything he says with a pinch of salt, although I like those films about NWO he made in his early career.

[Maunagarjana]

Alex Jones has [almost] always been critical of QAnon.

Here's an interesting and detailed 5 minute audio segment from 8 August 2020, in which he lays out what he knows.


https://projectavalon.net/Alex_Jones_on_Qanon_8_Aug_2020.mp3



There is a guy on Quora who says that he knows who Q is. I'm guessing that he means who the original Q was. This guy, Lance Heffa is very insistent that Q is Suhail Rizvi. Read these posts and the comments by him. He says he's dealt with him personally and has a personal vendetta against him.

https://www.quora.com/Do-U-S-intelligence-agencies-know-who-Q-is/answer/Lance-Heffa

https://www.quora.com/Is-President-Trump-Qanon/answer/Lance-Heffa

https://www.quora.com/Could-Q-from-QAnon-be-someone-purposely-spreading-misinformation-to-harm-America-e-g-someone-or-a-group-working-for-a-foreign-power/answer/Lance-Heffa

[ExomatrixTV]

All people who are against Alex Jones (from day 1) in ANY form, shape or level are never up for real honest debate ever ... it boils down to limiting oneself to endless excuses why they not really want to study/hear him out ... and that is okay as long YOU know we know what you are doing ... Justifying yourself to have judgement based upon extreme selective snippets of misrepresentations, assumptions, conjecture, funny memes, shills, exaggerations, people assuming (interpreted) Alex Jones obvious sarcasm as "fact" and when he is serious he supposedly be a "joker" and I can go on and on and on ... how people will always find something to spin it in such a way that justifies willful ignorance of the real bigger picture.

I met Bill Cooper personally in 1993 shook his hand in Wembley Arena London Global Deception Conference ... I respect him but also see his flaws. I listened many of his "Hour of The Time (https://www.facebook.com/Hour-of-the-Time-296817149679/)" short wave radio broadcasts and red his book "Behold A Pale Horse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX5CGcEnRgA)" twice in early 1990s.

Then mid-1990s I was also listening to Alex Jones (±25 years ago) even listen to the interview between Bill Cooper & Alex Jones around 1995-1996 ... Studied Waco Massacre explained in great detail by Alex Jones AND Bill Cooper and both made some excellent points and both made mistakes ... that happens when you are human. I never chose sides. I appreciated BOTH of them dearly ... Not assuming everything is flawless & perfect ... but still I was really happy they did what most do not dare to do. When followers of (whistler-blower) Bill Cooper attacked followers of Alex Jones and visa versa I immediately saw the FLAWS on both sides! ... The moment you point that out you are called a: "shill" "controlled opposition" "dis-info agent" etc. etc. So really am used to that kind of crap (cheap assumptions) from day 1 in mid 1990s up to now.

I may be the only Avalonian listened to Alex Jones 2 to 3 hours live shows over 1500 times for more than 20 years not assuming everything I hear "must be true" and part of it is emotional theater and I did not mind ... and I still do not mind because I fully understand and totally get SARCASM ... Dutch people are known for that too by the way https://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/wink_animated.gif ... I also know lot of people hate that ... same for other people using sarcasm to blow of steam.

Keep in mind I study suppressed news & conspiracies since 1990 and had 5 years of research before I started to listening to Alex Jones. I already created my own Radio & TV Shows in Amsterdam organized International Conferences AND was co-founder of Exposure Magazine with 4000+ physical subscribers ... and I gave over 80 Lectures. I did not need Alex Jones to be "awake" but I LOVE to brainstorm with like mined spirits fighting & exposing The New World Order Agenda which at the time were considered "crazy" theories.

Many who know me have heard me saying multiple times: That I find Alex Jones sometimes extremely limited (narrow minded) when he was discussing UFO's to please his "Christian followers". Later he admitted he had to use self-censorship when discussing this controversial topic. As I knew he knows so much more about the UFO Cover Up. Still I forgave/forgive him NOT because I am a "blind follower" but because I can see the (self-imposed) limitations of almost EVERYBODY has walking on this planet.

I remember me calling in to Live Alex Jones radio show multiple times over the years ... I loved it ... that you have that option.

People who think who can do better reaching millions show the way (walk the talk) ... do not wait for AJ or Bill Cooper to "change" their ways ... as everybody is unique with their flaws & mistakes. Was my default response. But most never ever did it is SO EASY to criticize from the side-lines being an armchair-critic.

cheers,
John Kuhles

... related:

🌐 tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons (http://tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons)

[TomKat]

Alex Jones has [almost] always been critical of QAnon.

Here's an interesting and detailed 5 minute audio segment from 8 August 2020, in which he lays out what he knows.


https://projectavalon.net/Alex_Jones_on_Qanon_8_Aug_2020.mp3



There is a guy on Quora who says that he knows who Q is. I'm guessing that he means who the original Q was. This guy, Lance Heffa is very insistent that Q is Suhail Rizvi. Read these posts and the comments by him. He says he's dealt with him personally and has a personal vendetta against him.

https://www.quora.com/Do-U-S-intelligence-agencies-know-who-Q-is/answer/Lance-Heffa

https://www.quora.com/Is-President-Trump-Qanon/answer/Lance-Heffa

https://www.quora.com/Could-Q-from-QAnon-be-someone-purposely-spreading-misinformation-to-harm-America-e-g-someone-or-a-group-working-for-a-foreign-power/answer/Lance-Heffa

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-biggest-cases-that-Alan-Dershowitz-has-been-involved-in?share=1

Lance thinks he's the Messiah-King of Israel, and hates Trump:

Lance Heffa
, Civil Engineer at U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (2005-present)
Answered 11 months ago · Author has 1.2K answers and 221.6K answer views
What are the biggest cases that Alan Dershowitz has been involved in?

Orenthal J. Simpson double-murder trial, Jefferey Epstein sex trafficking case , and Donald Trump impeachment. He obviously has no moral code regarding who he defends and why.

I hope Adonai punishes him for freeing Trump and getting him off in the U.S. Senate (since now chances he’ll be removed are zero to nil). Thanks for ruining America Alan. You, like your client, put your own selfish foreign interests above those of America’s. Israel is important to us in a bipartisan way, but not as important to us and our Precious America.

You fought hard to recognize the Holocaust and get centers built which recognize it in Jerusalem. Donald Trump is not your Messiah-King. I am, but just as prophesied in the book of Daniel, Israel will follow a false prophet before their Messiah takes the throne, and Mr. Dershowitz unfortunately has enabled them to do just that.

[Hermoor]

It's true that nothing is ever black and white and all shades of grey exist in between.

One of the most outstanding interviews I ever watched was Alex Jones with Aaron Russo. If all the sheeple dropped what they were doing now and watched it , then I figure the world would be a better place.

He's a special case, typically requiring a special filter of discernment for me at least.

Apple juice Alex and his gay frogs, lol. He's definitely one of the more colourful threads in the tapestry.

[ExomatrixTV]

‘Q-Anon (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/)’ Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/) From 1920s Known As ‘Operation Trust’

[ExomatrixTV]

The Final Hours of Donald Trump

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[Hermoor]

Thank you for posting this John.

I listened to it in full. He pretty much said most of the things that needed saying. Good on him, somebody needed to.

In some ways this might become an even more influential interview than the astounding all-time classic with Aaron Russo.

It's a very cold shower for the QAnoners at any rate. They need not feel too aggrieved, we've all been played at some point. I just hope the many good folks in their number can start anew now with putting their energies in to something genuinely positive.

[Ernie Nemeth]

If this were just a question of voting irregularities by some unscrupulous Americans that was expansive enough to throw the election, it could be argued that it is in the best interest of America to let it go through and prove the fraud on the back end so as not to cause undue allegations of election tampering. Let Biden hang himself with his corrupt cabinet and cronies on the hill. Meanwhile Trump and his team can slowly present the evidence in court and eventually sway the American people with facts and truth. This way he can win back the presidency legally and still run for office again in 2024.

But since this is not about domestic corruption but collusion between foreign governments to influence the American elections, it amounts to an act of war. An act of war cannot be decided by drawn out court proceedings and the presentation of evidence. It must be decisively rooted out and destroyed. And it must be done in secret so that the enemy is unaware. And it must be allowed to run its course, within reasonable parameters, so that the extent of their plans can be ascertained and fully thwarted at the right moment. Maximum discretion for maximal effectiveness.

Trump only had to implement the order, already denoted as a threat by those in the know, and the entire proceedings from then on would be out of his hands. An act of war is a military matter, with military operatives in charge. And with military methods employed and with quick military tribunals presiding over the fate of those facing military justice for acts of treason. Not to mention the retaliation worldwide for all those implicated in aiding and abetting bad actors within the American political structure. Depending on the extent of the collusion, it might require the capitulation of entire governments...

[Fellow Aspirant]

Dear Bill

I wish to apologize for claiming that Alex Jones is a proselytizer of the beliefs of QAnon. Clearly, as you have stated, he has sought to distance himself from the group. His own recent declamations denouncing its followers as crazy people have been loud and clear.

I hope, however, that I may be forgiven for my confusion in thinking that he is a follower, when I state that one of his long time core messages is identical to one of the core tenets of QAnon; perhaps its core tenet. Its raison d’etre, even. I am referring to the issue of child abduction and trafficking among demonic cults for the purposes of supplying humans for offerings as sacrifices in Satanic rituals. In my personal research, it is this phenomenon that was/is seminal in the founding of QAnon, and a key reason for why it has grown and flourished. [See any of the writings of Liz Croker] It is this belief that gives the notion of a Dark Cabal its chilling nightmare status. From this horror stems the rest of the claims about the evil practiced by those who exist in the cultures of the “elite”.

In many people’s minds, my own included, QAnon is synonymous with the struggle against satanic child trafficking. Thus, witnessing the passion with which Alex Jones calls for the destruction of the cabal responsible for it, made it easy for me to conflate his message with that of QAnon. He was one of the first, for example, to circulate the story that has come to be known as “Pizzagate”, in which the cabal including Hillary Clinton and John Podesta regularly visited Washington’s “Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria”, descended into its basement dungeon and, after having performed the necessary rituals, consumed the fresh inner organs of kidnapped children. This story was also a mainstay of QAnon purveyors. Jones has since recanted Pizzagate in court, and so avoided the legal consequences of his actions. Once his legal jeopardy eased, though, he reversed his testimony, saying that he now stands by his original claims. So much for integrity.

His ferocious and sometimes unhinged rants against child abduction and cannibalism, though, have remained a staple in his “shows”, casting doubt about the steadfastness of his disavowals of QAnon. Perhaps he draws the line at the notion that John Fitzgerald Kennedy Junior faked his own death and reappeared as “Q” himself. As usual, it’s hard to discern. One has to allow some sympathy for the disappointment felt by the MAGA/QAnon component of Trump's supporters during the convention at which Trump was declared the Republican candidate. The believers had excitedly anticipated that Trump would triumphantly introduce his Vice Presidential running mate, bringing onstage John Kennedy Jr., who would finally reveal himself as "Q".

One of Mr. Jones' most recent exposes of the issue occurred just last fall, a nine minute program in which he used an episode of “Dr. Phil” to introduce the terror of ‘adrenochrome’. In this InfoWars presentation, Jones embeds a large segment (copyright infringement?) of Dr. Phil’s show, in which the mother presents the basis for her alarm over adrenochrome. The resultant irrational behaviour of the mom is what had prompted her daughter to seek the intervention of Dr. Phil.

Dr. Phil tries to counsel the mother and convince her that her daughter is no real danger and that the threat is not real. This position is rejected by Mr. Jones, who instead uses it to further his own false claims of the abduction of children and, in particular, the reason for why the ‘cabal’ needs young human flesh: not only do they eat the organs of the victim, but they harvest a particular body fluid – adrenochrome, considered by the Cabal to be the Fountain of Youth. It is this substance, Jones claims, that is sought by the elite cabal, a group that includes the Clintons, the Gates and the Pope. Oh, and George Soros, of course.

In this episode, Jones covers the topics of

• the Bohemian Grove (he includes a snippet of his own uncover video investigation made 20 years ago, and its links to the cabal

• the ubiquity of human sacrifice and cannibalism by the elite of all cultures throughout the ages, including the ancient charge against Jews of ‘blood libel’

• how the world is awakening to the fact that we are seen as livestock by the cabal, who ritually slaughter and consume our young, virginal children

• how the harvest adrenochrome is use to lengthen their life spans

• Ambrosia, a company started by Dr. Jesse Karmazin, that offered to (for $8 000) fill clients’ veins with the blood of the young

• two manufacturers of epipens, whose contents degrade into adrenochrome, are linked to the Clinton Foundation

• how Democrats favour legislation to allow full term abortions, and whose ulterior motive is to harvest child organs

At the show’s finale, Mr. Jones urges his viewers to spring into action to resist (commit armed insurrection?) the depredations of the cabal, who will institute “The Great Reset” once they have us “dependent, domesticated, desperate” and “disarmed”. And although he has no firearms to offer his viewers so that they can defend themselves during the imminent bloodbath, he DOES have merch for those wishing to buy prepper water and dried food.

Here’s the link to the InfoWars show. It has been archived and is hosted by gazyoung, and was first published at 20:24 UTC on October 17, 2020.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IidyTfr2tgvt/

And I’m not the only one making a connection between child abduction, adrenochrome, and Qanon. Here’s a link to the online essay by Brian Dunning of Skeptoid, followed by a cut and paste of the transcript of his Skeptoid Podcast #70 from October 20, 2020

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4750

“There's a good reason why the adrenochrome and QAnon conspiracy theories are linked. In his 2018 book Escaping the Rabbit Hole, author Mick West discusses the spectrum on which conspiracy theories lie. Some of them lie at the "more plausible" end of the spectrum, such as the idea of corruption and kickbacks within Big Pharma, that many people can embrace.

At the opposite end are wild claims that we imagine no reasonable person could possibly take seriously, such as the idea of world leaders actually being reptilian aliens wearing electronic disguises. And yet, there are people who do believe that. Each of us has their own line of demarcation that we draw somewhere along the spectrum, and we tend to be more readily accepting of all conspiracy theories that are to the "more plausible" side of that line.

Thus, if a person is willing to believe something as outlandish as the QAnon conspiracy theory — if they draw their line of demarcation that far out at the extreme gibberish end of the spectrum — then it shouldn't be surprising that they'd find the adrenochrome conspiracy to be perfectly sensible. Believers in the adrenochrome conspiracy are, in fact, already pre-qualified by their belief in QAnon, as they are already persuaded that atrocities against children are a routine component of the political left. If you believe in QAnon, then there's nothing outrageous about adrenochrome.

The conspiracies also have the same roots. They both grew out of anti-Semitic threads on the 4chan online community, which is where Q originated. 4chan was also the birthplace of the Pizzagate mythology, in which Democrats and Hollywood elites were said to operate pedophilia and child trafficking rings from the non-existent basement of a pizza parlor.

So far as I could find, the very first adrenochrome post on 4chan was a video (no longer available) titled "Jew Ritual BLOOD LIBEL Sacrifice is #ADRENOCHROME Harvesting". The term blood libel refers to centuries of false accusations against Jews, alleging that they habitually murder Christian children to use their blood in various rituals.

After some five years of moldering in the dark corners of anti-Semitic message boards, in 2019 adrenochrome was finally picked up by InfoWars, that Holy of Holies of alt-right conspiracy mongering. The InfoWars reporter linked EpiPens (emergency injectors containing epinephrine) to the Clinton Foundation (elite Democrats) to a company that was selling transfusions of blood donated by young people as some sort of miracle health scheme.

Interestingly, both companies that manufacture the EpiPen, Mylan and Kaleo, are connected to the Clinton Foundation. Ambrosia, a controversial new startup company, was recently charging eight thousand dollars to fill your veins with the blood of young people.

InfoWars hoped that you would take this connection — so thin they didn't even directly state it — as proof that Democrats and Hollywood elitists were torturing children to drink their blood and get their adrenochrome. The scary thing is it worked; plenty of alt-right conspiracy theorists now fully accept this. Once adrenochrome received InfoWars' stamp of approval, YouTube became a fertile paradise for QAnon believers to freely promote and build on the narrative."



And finally, Bill, if I may be allowed a little space for conjecture and discernment as I connect the dots in this story, I must divulge a personal theory that perhaps Mr. Jones has spent too long immersed in the horror that is child ritual cannibalism. It’s just possible that some aspects of this macabre activity may have lodged somewhere in his subconscious, like a piece of gravel wedged into a new car tire. As something that was worth sampling, perhaps, especially as to how it might provide him relief from his troublesome neighbours. Last spring he threatened his neighbours (quotation below) with his own version of a 'final solution'. I certainly hope he hasn’t mellowed in his aversion to cannibalism, but this recent outburst during one of his infamous rant meltdowns certainly indicates an unhealthy tendency in his thinking. Thus, in a report done by Adam Forgie, Mr. Jones had this to say on his Infowars show of May 1st, 2020 (link directly below)

“I'm starting to think about having to eat my neighbors. You think I like sizing up my neighbor, how I'm going to haul him up by chain and chop his ass up? I'll do it. But, I'm literally looking at my neighbors now and going I'm ready to hang them up and gut them and skin them and chop them up.

You know what? I'm ready. My daughters aren't going to starve to death. I'll eat my neighbors. When my babies come into the equation, I will cook your ass up so fast and I'll tell them: 'Oh, I killed a cow out back, baby.' Here it is because my babies ain't gonna die for your crap, your failure.

I will eat your leftist ass like corn on the cob, I'm ready. I'll barbecue your ass flat. I will eat you. I'll drink your blood. You understand that? I will hang your ass up and cut you into cutlets like a filet mignon and grill your ass before I watch my daughters starve to death. Let me tell you something right now. I swear to God, if it's the last thing I do I'm going to get my hands around your throat."

https://kutv.com/news/nation-world/video-alex-jones-in-detail-describes-killing-neighbors-to-feed-to-his-kids



Such statements point to an irrational mind. Would he actually carry out his threats? Who knows? But I just have this gut feeling.

To sum up my plea, Bill, I hope I’ve offered enough information and background on the linkages between Alex Jones and QAnon to allow you to see how I might have made the connection.

Yours truly,

Brian