We have no time to think!

[thepainterdoug]

Can you imagine you lived in pre internet or even pre television days?

Can you imagine picking up the newspaper and having all day to read the paper, a full article, with your coffee at breakfast, the barber shop, and before calling ole joe or mille over for a discussion about it? You actually read the entire article and already reflected on it?

I can no longer imagine this. I find myself every day in the "quickening"
looking fast, skim reading, multi tasking as I read, in videos, skipping ahead in jumps and increments hoping to catch key phrases and compact a 1 30 min vid into 15 min.

i wont even consider watching any 2 hour vid with a music and entertainment intro.

and today i got about 8 messages, PM,s and texts not to mention e mails with breaking news from credible friends that because of who they are, I ran with, having no idea if it was verified or true.

and guess what, those better than me that do take your time etc, you cant verify what is true as well. where you going?? fact check? are you calling up sources? whose your fact check and who is fact checking them? your still doing it from the seat of your pants at your computer.

Our way of life is in the twilight. Perhaps new kids will assess it all much better? I dont know, but something of importance here is being lost

i find myself watching Life below Zero. Living in Alaska, just survival and primary needs, food, firewood, and get up and do it again.

Plenty of time to think,

But noooo, hate the cold and thats boring as well .

where is it all going?

[Bill Ryan]

Yes to all of that! :)

Also see this thread:


"I can't keep up any more." The world of Future Shock is already here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105362-I-can-t-keep-up-any-more.-The-world-of-Future-Shock-is-already-here)

[ExomatrixTV]

The mainstream mass conditioning media networks become incrementally more and more predictable bias to a level that is beyond any (creepy) Dystopian SF Movie now.

... and I wish I was just kidding.

John Kuhles
January 12, 2021

[Mike]

Excellent thread Doug.

Without even realizing it sometimes, I'll be sitting in my room with my television, smart phone, and laptop all lit up and chirping. I feel this strange compulsion to have them all on. I think it might have something to do with a subconscious desire to consume all the info being thrown at me, and a fear that I'll never catch up with it all.

Meanwhile I've got 4 books I desperately want to finish, just sitting next to my bed. I feel overwhelmed by the books alone, but throw in all the digital info and I'm practically drowning in this swamp of information.

Meanwhile, I've got people calling and texting and emailing and skyping me left n right. Most days I'm scrambling to respond - not thoughtfully and not because I want to necessarily - but because I feel weirdly obligated to react to this device in my hand that keeps buzzing and beeping and begging for my attention.

I finally had to draw a line there. I'm good for maybe one short phone conversation a day. Whoever calls first, I'll talk to maybe. But after that I don't give a f#ck who is calling, how many times they call, or why they're calling, I will not answer the phone. I have a tight circle of friends, and none of them really work. Some are rich and some just resourceful, but what they all have in common is boredom, and a very annoying desire to complain about that boredom.

Between all that stuff, I can barely remember to wipe my ass. Sometimes I'll walk into my bedroom with a very clear intent, and within seconds I've gotten distracted and forgotten it. That's happening with an alarming frequency

[ExomatrixTV]

...

Mike: Maybe it is time for "Sensory Deprivation Floating Tank" (No sound No light Floating on Salted water at body temperature or more comfortable warmth).

;)
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Mike your "signature" contains a video link that has been deleted ... I searched for the same and found a different video-link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkuFaUaaZYI) of the same video ... maybe you can change it or use something new.

cheers,
John

[pueblo]

"The longer one is alone, the easier it is to hear the song of the earth. Yes, yes, yes: I am not going cracked, I am merely leaving human Masks behind. The wilderness is where truth is naked and hypocrisy has not been invented"

- Robert Anton Wilson

[Arak]

I have started to disconnect myself from social and news medias every now and then. Usually during the summer. It takes around 2-4 days to get over the dopamine addiction that some and news provide, but after that I tap pretty smoothly to the old ways of living, thinking, and being. If I would not work in online-oriented industry I might actually quit all use of social medias. Well maybe not checking Avalon though. :P

Ps. There are many good books written about (digital) minimalism for sure, here is one:
https://www.calnewport.com/books/digital-minimalism/

[Dorjezigzag]

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[avid]

Mike, I’ve noticed over the past few years the compulsion to check and research ‘real’ news is so time consuming, to the detriment of routines. Compounding this issue was the introduction of ‘lockdowns’. Promoting even more research online, less normality in my home and contacts. I love my independence, but not a forced issue. More furious research. Anger and reluctance to the forceful wearing of masks on my weekly shop.

Now not sleeping well, checking alt news in the night...

Frustration with negation of truth in MSM forces me to switch tv off. Son rings and comments on my dissent to MSM.
Last week I snapped over the petty gloatings by the ignorant masses who just gave in to indoctrination over the last few years, and berated them. Big mistake.
Will now keep my head below the parapet, which shouldn’t be necessary.

Looking in the mirror, tired, not cut my hair since folks died/everything fell apart in 2014, my minimalist house needs sorted, trying not to wear alternate clothes via laundry, prize winning garden needs help, stop doing same-old same-old.
Must stop trying to mend the impossible - out of my reach - and get my own life back.

So - instead of dashing to my ipad at all hours, force myself to do an awarding code-word, at least I can win that!!!
Weaning oneself off the impossible to correct is almost going into rehab!

So - Mike, finish your books, life will go on despite our best efforts, we’ll just have to circumnavigate the consequences, and let’s let our gadgets go flat for a few days. Nearest and dearest will be forewarned, I will be busy with my own life at last!!
I hope... 🤞🤞

[East Sun]

Doug,
I know where you're coming from. I've been there and finally escaped. '
I stopped watching TV over 25 years ago. Best thing I ever did. I literally hate TV.
I don't have to tell you what it is.

The internet is far superior to anything tv tried to be. Having said that I know that the
internet has gone to the dark side, big time.

Doug, please slow down. Take time out. Be your natural artist self.

Artists can not be rushed.
I am by nature an artist but could never allow myself to be that.

I wanted to work on construction carrying 2x4s on my shoulder on a beam
and I did that for a time. Later I wanted to do other things and did them.

Now when it does not matter I have my studio with paintings and drawings that I never tried to sell.

Doug, there is plenty of time to think. but what do you want to think about?

I finally have time to think and think about how religion has exploited the poor people around the
world including my ancestors and me.

Thank you, Doug

[Patient]

Thepainterdoug - you can also paint with words as I was quickly captured by your quick description...

"...picking up the newspaper and having all day to read the paper, a full article, with your coffee at breakfast, the barber shop, and before calling ole joe or mille over for a discussion about it? You actually read the entire article and already reflected on it?"

Yes, I remember those days with affection. I watch my kids and I am constantly trying to get them outside and away from the media at their fingertips.

Lol! But they hate the cold too! I was hoping to be able to make them an ice skating rink in the backyard this year to help motivate them for skating and playing outside in the snow like I did as a kid. The weather is not staying cold enough long enough here for a rink. Not yet anyway.

It certainly is very different for them growing up compared to how you and I did.

The other thing about our current lifestyle - not only are we getting a lot of information coming at us, but people are expecting you to reply instantly! I remember when texting was cool because it was subtle and a non-intrusive way of reaching out to someone. Now, if you don't reply right away people interpret that as being ignored.

Even my email itself is pushing back at me. "this email came in 3 days ago - are you going to reply?"

We should start to push back and we can start by taking back Sundays - turn everything off. Read a book. Play an acoustic instrument. Sit outside and listen to the birds and the wind.

[Catsquotl]

Nah as long as we know what is happening.

No need to take back what you haven't lost.


Everybody does have some form of a choice. being distracted, being in full on electronic connectivity mode, take a breather..
It isn't as it was.. remember boredom?


But there's enough there to choose from, we just have to learn to navigate life slightly differently.
Takes time, maybe even effort.


Me I love TV. Love the inter-web as well.
Enjoy time spent sitting at a fire outside too..
I used to think silence had answers. and it sometimes has. But some good old fashioned distraction has its place as well



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[RunningDeer]

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[Strat]

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[palehorse]

Thanks for thread, it is important to reflect on this issues, specially nowadays.

My take on it is simple, actually very simple.. it is called addiction, like anything in life if we do not policy ourselves it can quickly derail and become messy. a.k.a taṇhā and kilesā (craving) -> lobha (desire, greed, attachment) and it leads to dukkha (suffering).

Interesting about "i wont even consider watching any 2 hour vid with a music and entertainment intro" I wrote something similar in another thread a while ago, those sort of videos, they are to entertain only, rare to find any good or new information on it (there is serious videos, but the majority is unhealthy), generally the music is annoying and used to easy the process of brain washing (absorption) the individual and most of the authors are doing it for the clicks/views for obvious reason money or for some other nasty purpose, like I said brain wash!

I got a pile of book to read and I hope I have time enough in this life to read them all, I do not need those videos, not at all.

There is this exercise about watching the animals behavior, you will see the very essence of them, because they lack personality (despite what some freaks say about animal personality, it probably apply to some pets, remember pets are trained to receive imprint from their owners/masters), personality is nothing more than ego and it is forced down the throat by society through a series of imprints that "shape" us and we shape it back (see the never ending cycle?).

Some say drop the mask and you will see the beauty of life.

Have a great day.

[Samson]

My great great grandmother was born in 1886: no phone no radio no electricity planes cars... its quite a incomprihencable quantumleap in time we made the last century. In her days power came from the watertap! An almost forgotten history... https://www.lowtechmagazine.be/2013/09/energie-uit-de-kraan-watermotors.html

[Trisher]

I still cannot get used to looking at my emails and discovering from there that a package has been delivered to the back door and there is a picture of the door and package. I didn't know but my computer does. Today the phone stopped working. Going online and doing a phone test I discovered the extension phone had been left off the hook. Boggling that my computer knows and I don't. Logging into accounts online it gives me numbers to type in when the phone rings to give me all that extra security.
On the lighter side....

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[Karen (Geophyz)]

I make a point of disconnecting every day. I turn the volume off on my phone, I put my computers to sleep and I go outside with my dog. I talk to my horse, I hug my trees, I hike. I write letters to friend, with a pen and paper. I am reading a great book, a book, not a computer screen. Occasionally I watch stupid stuff on television. Last night I went outside for the longest time and just stared at the sky. It was clear and cold and the view was amazing. I take pictures of strange things that make me happy, spider webs, leaves, dew on tree limbs. But what I don't do is engage my computer or my phone. This allows me to clear my head, dump all the strange and troubling things I have seen on the computer each day and reset.

[thepainterdoug]

Thanks everyone for your contributions !!

Patient, I was referring to " we" as a collective. In general, our society, we have been swept up into something that many have not been able to handle. I do pretty well, have completed my creative ideas, my musical www.hypnotta.com and so on. But this last month in sharing news, election info and so on has me over the top, so thats why i posted this topic.
It was as a frenzy and Im sure many are feeling it as well.

It is upon all of us to manage this. I get phone calls done in the car, best I can. And turn the ringer off at home. If I see it, I see it.
But starting yesterday, im deleting all e mail with breaking news and must see attached.
If its true, Ill find out by days end, or tomorrow. At least I dont rely on my income from being on line, e mails and all. My son has 100 email everyday when he arrives for work in the morning

[Trisher]

Maybe we have no time to sit and think either. A Mercola article that says it all..


Smart Toilets Will Use Anal Fingerprints
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola Fact Checked

January 16, 2021

smart toilet
Story at-a-glance

Called "precision health smart toilets" by the scientists who developed the technology, the gadget takes a picture of your anus and a fingerprint from the toilet lever and analyzes your stool and urine
The information is uploaded to the cloud where artificial intelligence evaluates the data and contacts your primary care doctor if there are concerns
This technology, funded by the National Cancer Institute for $6.9 million, presents multiple areas where your privacy and medical information may be compromised
Before adding one more wireless technology to your home, consider using these parameters to evaluate your health using information from your urine and stool

The idea behind smart technology is that your cellphone or appliance does the thinking for you. Researchers at Stanford Medicine have taken this to a whole new level and hope to develop a toilet that evaluates your excrement each time you use the toilet.1

A smart device can do many of the things your computer does, such as connect to the internet, use software and adapt to fit a current set of circumstances. These technologies often include sensors, databases and wireless access to the internet.

Smart technology was a boon to improving home security systems that could be monitored through your computer and connected to local authorities. Originally, technology was aimed at making the lives of senior citizens a little easier. This was called gerontechnology and began in the early 1990s.2

By the early 2000s, smart home automation became more popular and more affordable. Currently, anyone can wire their home with smart technology using gadgets they purchase at computer stores and readily available software installed on their computer and smartphone.3

Sensors measure temperature, humidity, light and motion or noise. The control network connects devices and the computer system collects information and acts based on a set of predefined rules. These functions are essentially the basis for the new smart toilet.
Precision Health Smart Toilet Evaluates Your Waste

Stanford University announced their “precision health” toilet they claim can “sense multiple signs of illness through automated urine and stool analysis.”4,5 This particular smart toilet doesn't automatically lift the lid or flush the toilet, but instead has been designed to detect disease markers in your urine and stool.

The product can be fitted to an ordinary toilet using tools that include motion sensors and a camera that captures a person's analprint as you sit to use the toilet.6 The idea to use an analprint for identification was sparked by painter Salvador Dali, who reportedly discovered “the anus has 35 or 37 creases, which are as unique as fingerprints.”7

In an operational smart toilet, sensors and other cameras will capture waste material, detect the force and amount of urine streams and analyze what's inside your stool. With the analprint, each smart toilet will also include a fingerprint scanner located on the lever to help ensure the data is linked to the right individual.

The scientists included features to measure urine factors, such as protein levels and white blood cell count. A person's stool is evaluated using the Bristol Stool Scale and records the total amount of time it takes a person to fully eliminate. The scientists’ goal is to gather enough data to spot severe health problems that would be evident in your excrement, such as colon cancer.

Once you flush the toilet, the data and images are wirelessly sent to an encrypted cloud server where it is supposed to remain private.

One of the researchers, the late Sam Gambhir, who was chair of the radiology department at Stanford at the time the study began, elaborated on the intention of the smart toilet, which is not to replace a doctor's office visit, but to monitor your waste, identify the unusual and automatically send information about anything suspicious to your physician.

Gambhir dedicated his life to finding early methods of disease detection; he passed away from cancer in July 2020.8 In an April 2020 Stanford press release, he was excited about the potential for gathering data through the smart toilet, saying, "The smart toilet is the perfect way to harness a source of data that's typically ignored — and the user doesn't have to do anything differently.”9 Gambhir compared the smart toilet against other health monitoring systems:10

“The thing about a smart toilet, though, is that unlike wearables, you can’t take it off. Everyone uses the bathroom — there’s really no avoiding it — and that enhances its value as a disease-detecting device.”

Click here to learn more
$6.9 Million Grant to Develop Excrement Technology

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., is not as impressed by the technology and doesn't believe the $6.9 million in funds granted by the National Cancer Institute is a good use of taxpayers’ money.11 Each year he compiles a report on federal government waste, and in 2020 the funds for the smart toilet were included.12

“Researchers hope this will be another arrow in the quiver of telehealth medicine providers, but they are forgetting there’s a huge difference between video-chatting with your doctor so he or she can examine your tonsils and uploading your excrement into the cloud.

What would possess the NIH to issue a grant for a toilet that takes such videos, you ask? Well, the NIH issued the original grant under the premise that a noninvasive monitoring procedure called molecular imaging could be applied to early detection and management of cancer.

Ultimately, however, no matter how good the technology is at achieving its goal, nobody is going to use a toilet that has three cameras and takes a video of the user’s “analprint” to identify the user, never mind one that stores that data in a digital cloud that hackers could access. Because that’s exactly what you want, right? A photo of you like that floating around in the cloud.”

Meanwhile, Ghambir’s team hopes to have the second prototype ready for testing by the end of 2021. On their wish list is the ability for the newest smart toilet to detect DNA and RNA in order to help track the spread of coronavirus disease and to detect tumors.
Tracking Virus DNA in Wastewater

Using wastewater tests for information about an individual or community is not new. For example, researchers at wastewater treatment plants have been testing facilities’ feces and urine effluent for illegal drugs, which has helped law enforcement to track trends and to identify new drugs in communities.13

The process was first proposed in 2001 by the Environmental Protection Agency to raise awareness of the impact that excreted drugs have on the environment. In early 2020, data from the largest European project evaluating wastewater corroborated data from other teams indicating the cocaine market in Eastern Europe was expanding.14

In human testing since the COVID-19 pandemic began, scientists have also identified the SARS-CoV-2 virus responsible for COVID-19 in the stool of people who have died from the disease.15 In one study, scientists found the viral load in feces was higher than in the respiratory secretions of an infected patient.

They found live viruses in the feces of two other patients, which the researchers felt indicated “infectious virus in feces is a common manifestation of COVID-19,” and may represent a possible disease vector.

They also noted a 2004 study following the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak, which found aerosolized feces from a faulty sewage line was a likely contaminant responsible for an outbreak in the Amoy Gardens housing complex that made 321 people sick, 187 of whom fit the spread pattern.16

In another study, researchers found RNA on eight of 22 surfaces tested in two hotel rooms after two guests later became sick with COVID-19.17 Sampling revealed the pillowcases and sheets had the highest viral load. However, despite testing the room a mere three hours after the people tested positive for the virus, no live viruses were found in the hotel rooms.18 Scientists noted that:19

“… monitoring sewage for traces of a pathogen enables effective surveillance of entire communities, providing a sensitive signal of whether the pathogen is present in the population and whether transmission is increasing or declining.”

Scientists believe that wastewater surveillance may have several benefits, including:20

Surveying the dynamics of disease transmission in entire communities
Avoiding bias of epidemiological indicators
Collecting data from all individuals, including those who lack access to health care
Earlier diagnostic testing
Providing near-real-time information on disease prevalence

The Smart Toilet Will Be Smarter Than You Think

Using smart technology to evaluate your waste products raises many questions, not the least of which include access to your private medical information. In the first place, people using this smart device in their home must have their fingerprints on file with the company, since the device uses both your fingerprint and analprint to link the information with a specific individual.

Although the initial idea is to install these toilets in the home, it bears considering they may eventually be installed in public areas allowing others to track your movements each time you use the toilet and are identified through your analprint or fingerprint.

In addition, your health information will be stored in the cloud, increasing the risk it can be accessed by hackers, contributing to medical identity theft. As discussed above, the company hopes to include technology to test for DNA and RNA in your stool and has the capability to test for drug and alcohol use, which begs the question how this information may be used.

Although the company promises your information will remain private (as discussed below) and is only shared with your personal physician, it's highly likely that health insurance and life insurance companies would find this information enticing as they determine whether to offer coverage and how much to charge. Law enforcement may also be interested in the test results.

These are only some of the potential challenges that may arise when you allow your health information to be uploaded to the cloud and accessed to determine whether information should be sent to your physician.
Are Pictures of Your Nether Region Medical Images?

This particular device also poses an obvious risk to your privacy. To this point, researchers have engaged only male participants since the fixed camera would film female genitalia.21 Researchers are hoping the second prototype will provide more accurate data and feature technology to reduce the risk of the “nontraditional and unusual” photos falling into the wrong hands:22

“We understand the privacy concerns of our approach seriously from its inception. Our proof-of-concept study utilizes photo-imagery of a person’s anus, which may be non-traditional and unusual compared to fingerprints. We unconditionally ensure the security of all photos and private information of our users are enforced through end-to-end encrypted data transmission.

We have employed a template matching algorithm to determine the region of interest (anus), which once fully developed and validated, will be autonomous without any human interaction. The photo-imagery of a person’s anus will be encrypted by a hash function and stored on a secured device.

In this way, even if a female user’s ROI is mistakenly extended to include genitalia, the resulting image is already encrypted and stored via a hash function and the reconstruction of such sensitive images is unrealistic.”

It’s difficult to imagine how they will be able to “unconditionally ensure the security of all photos and private information” when highly secured banks,23 retailers24 and even the federal government25 have been hacked and information stolen.
How to Use the Information in Your Toilet

The size, shape and color of your stool give valuable clues as to the state of your health. It's so important, in fact, that in 1997 Stephen Lewis and Ken Heaton with the U.K.'s Bristol Royal Infirmary teaching hospital developed what's now known as the Bristol stool chart.26

For more information about what you should be looking for in the toilet after you poop, see “What Should Your Poop Look Like?” The color and smell of your urine are also important indicators of your health and wellness.

Your kidneys filter excess water and water-soluble waste products from your blood, getting rid of toxins and waste products that would otherwise make you ill. Each day your kidneys filter about 50 gallons of water, which equals about 18,250 gallons each year.27

Amazingly, one kidney can easily handle the task.28 Your urine color will change depending on your level of hydration, medication, food and supplements. Discover more at “Urine Test Can Determine Your Level of Health.”

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/01/16/smart-toilets-will-use-anal-fingerprints.aspx?ui=b6b5d73ad8c6aeb72c53fd4a419d9671b871908aba5c4954387346554bb4618b&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2ReadMore&cid=20210116_HL2&mid=DM765659&rid=1060078995

[Patient]

Thanks everyone for your contributions !!

Patient, I was referring to " we" as a collective. In general, our society, we have been swept up into something that many have not been able to handle. I do pretty well, have completed my creative ideas, my musical www.hypnotta.com and so on. But this last month in sharing news, election info and so on has me over the top, so thats why i posted this topic.
It was as a frenzy and Im sure many are feeling it as well.

It is upon all of us to manage this. I get phone calls done in the car, best I can. And turn the ringer off at home. If I see it, I see it.
But starting yesterday, im deleting all e mail with breaking news and must see attached.
If its true, Ill find out by days end, or tomorrow. At least I dont rely on my income from being on line, e mails and all. My son has 100 email everyday when he arrives for work in the morning

Yes, I understood that you meant "we" as a collective.

I was just able to identify on a personal level much of what you wrote.

[avid]

Beyond ludicrous, yes - maybe in an asylum/fema camp, but not viable. ‘Alexa, wipe my anus’ is surely, eternally, out of the scenario. 😱😱


Referring to https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/01/16/smart-toilets-will-use-anal-fingerprints.aspx?ui=b6b5d73ad8c6aeb72c53fd4a419d9671b871908aba5c4954387346554bb4618b&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2ReadMore&cid=20210116_HL2&mid=DM765659&rid=1060078995

[amor]

Well, after rolling on the floor with laughter and accompanying tears, I finally decided to give anything with the name Smart a very wide berth. Imagine what it would feel like using your company's bathroom which had Smart toilets. I've come to the conclusion here that the National Cancer Institute wants to make more billions by the cost of completing the tests necessitated by the toilet photos and information. They in no way are to be trusted, since they have created the disease to make money and withheld the consequent cures which are myriad. Alternately, this may be a new form of blackmail where if you don't pay up you will find your end image on the bulletin board.