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Arcturian108
23rd January 2021, 02:18
Folks, if we ever want to fly again without being vaccinated, we had better help the American Frontline Doctors show the airline industry how concerned we are to protect our freedom to choose to take or not take this experimental vaccine.
Dr. Simone Gold's recent talk is mentioned on other threads, but those focus on the health ramifications, and have great advice regarding staying healthy. I wish to focus on the freedom issue, and thus will show the link to the petition first as they need a million signatures for that:
https://stopmedicaldiscrimination.org/
https://lbry.tv/@LoneWolfAnglo:4/LWA1:4
Ernie Nemeth
23rd January 2021, 02:38
Do you think you could call it a gene therapy so that we can get the message across that this experimental concoction is not a vaccine in the traditional sense?
RunningDeer
23rd January 2021, 04:47
Do you think you could call it a gene therapy so that we can get the message across that this experimental concoction is not a vaccine in the traditional sense?
Or experimental genetic alteration shot. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/laugh-big-smile-teeth.gif
pueblo
23rd January 2021, 09:42
Soon, you won't be flying anywhere without a Covid Passport.
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1352511467040501763?s=20
Dick
23rd January 2021, 16:20
If there is no other way, and you are forced to take a vaccination, this one is based on the “good old” known methods.
According to a dutch doctor and specialist in vaccins, its 1 of 2 vaccins that dont use the Mrna method.
https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/resource-centre/our-contribution-to-the-fight-against-2019-ncov/
But i don’t take it anyway:o
TomKat
23rd January 2021, 16:21
Unfortunately, baseball legend Hark Aaron recently got his covid "passport"
https://www.mlb.com/news/hank-aaron-covid-19-vaccination
RIP Hank, you were the greatest
Anna70
23rd January 2021, 19:37
This is so very sad.
IChingUChing
23rd January 2021, 20:46
I heard an interview recently where they said that there is a legal definition of the term "vaccine" and these mRna injections are not vaccines under that definition. It is the same method used for gene therapy and perhaps could be called immune therapy. Sorry that my poor memory can't recall where I heard the interview but will post if it comes back to me.
WeAllMustLearnToNavigate
23rd January 2021, 20:55
my brother in law and sister have been quite ill recently (I was told it was covid) -- brother in law was so ill he lost a stone in weight in 3 days and had to be hospitalised. Just one thing, yesterday I find on fb, that around 4th of Jan they were (at least my sister was --haven't confirmed brother in law ) planning to get the vaccinated.
IChingUChing
23rd January 2021, 21:46
Just found what I was looking for:
https://thefreedomarticles.com/not-a-vaccine-mrna-covid-vaccine-chemical-pathogen-device/
“This is not a vaccine … using the term vaccine to sneak this thing under public health exemptions … This is a mRNA packaged in a fat envelope that is delivered to a cell. It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator. It is not a vaccine! Vaccines actually are a legally defined term … under public health law … under CDC and FDA standards, and a vaccine specifically has to stimulate both an immunity within the person receiving it, but it also has to disrupt transmission … They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand that is going into the cell is not to stop transmission. It is a treatment. But if it was discussed as a treatment, it would not get the sympathetic ear of public health authorities, because then people would say “What other treatments are there?”
palehorse
24th January 2021, 05:00
Soon, you won't be flying anywhere without a Covid Passport.
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1352511467040501763?s=20
yep! I found this
"Microsoft, Big Tech Coalition Developing Rockefeller Funded COVID Passports"
https://summit.news/2021/01/15/microsoft-big-tech-coalition-developing-rockefeller-funded-covid-passports/
I heard that even to buy goods online will be mandatory to prove you are yourself with self short videos.
I would add for those living oversea that wish to go home and avoid all the hassles that will come with mandatory vaccinations, the time is now, embassies/consulates won't renew passports if the individual is not vaccinated (I will find the news about it, if I am not wrong it was Australia or New Zealand).
It will affect people living in metro cities first, for those living in the country side probably it will take more time but I am sure they will come to us and we will be waiting with our pitchforks.
I made my choice I will decline and not take any vaccine, cost what it cost.
Johan (Keyholder)
24th January 2021, 18:08
While making my daily walk this afternoon, I got inspiration for a thread. But it may “fit in” with this thread about avoiding the experimental vaccine. I would add to the sentence “Avoiding the experimental vaccine to be effective”.
In the past years and decennia, the entire human population has “ingested” all kinds of foreign objects, products and particles. We all have microplastics in our bodies. We all have (at least some) pesticides, metals (like aluminium) and viruses, bacteria and bacilli existing in our living organisms. Then you have the chemtrails. All sorts of EMF and RF that is harmful to our bodies. Add a “cocktail” of vaccines (most of us had a DTP vaccine when young). Now, there is this mRNA-“thing”, which is not even a real vaccine.
So, what to do?
We can strengthen our immune systems. We can go live in the country. But there will always be some kind of “influence” from the outside. Combine what’s in the paragraph above with 5G, the mRNA-“thing”, the satellite-grid all around the planet and you know what I am talking about.
It may become for many of us next to impossible to refuse the vaccine (in time). But maybe there is another solution.
Two examples. Aluminium in the body (that can cause Alzheimer’s, (probably) autism and other neurological problems) càn be eliminated from the body. Drinking particular water is the simplest way for that I think. Look up this biologist at Keele university, Chris Exley, and read some of his articles. He explains that with the right water one càn get the aluminium out of his/her body. (I am drinking Volvic water , which is easily to be found here).
A second example is a Faraday cage. “A Faraday cage or Faraday shield is an enclosure used to block electromagnetic fields. A Faraday shield may be formed by a continuous covering of conductive material, or in the case of a Faraday cage, by a mesh of such materials. Faraday cages are named after scientist Michael Faraday, who invented them in 1836.[1]” So, this blocks radiation (at least partially).
Now, IF one would be “forced” to take the mRNA-(so-called) vaccine, we MAY have a possibility to make the signal-transfer to the particles in our bodies impossible or very difficult. The question is “how”?
That is the question to be answered here. Any suggestions one may have would be welcome. Maybe there are already some possible solutions in this thread or elsewhere on the forum.
palehorse
24th January 2021, 18:23
Turpentine kills a broad range of parasites, I heard someone in one of these videos shared here on Avalon saying he would take Turpentine to kill those nano particles in the body, where it makes sense or not I have no idea, didn't take the time to investigate it properly, but I will start using Turpentine as part of my detox, I am waiting it arrive if not get confiscated in the customs!
in the meantime let's keep the lasagna flying! :)
Zirconian
24th January 2021, 18:42
Borax is helping!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1402740&viewfull=1#post1402740
I know this is a bit out there but I've had to increase my intake of borax amongst other things, as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system.
palehorse
24th January 2021, 19:59
My granpa made use of sodium bicarbonate, kerosene and turpentine his entire life and he died of old age, almost a hundred years old. I do not listen what the big pharma says about safety of these old folks remedies, I will start using turpentine and I am already using sodium bicarbonate for the last 10 years or so, I am still alive :D
Kerosene is one of the best way to remove pathogenic microbes and parasites from the blood and bowel, it is also used for autoimmune diseases, you ask anyone from a so called undeveloped country what they do with kerose! sure not only for the lamps! The use of it goes back to the ancient times.
Rockefellers started selling kerosene as a cancer cure before chemotherapy exist.
Here is a document about kerosene applications for tuberculosis and other deceases https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.087013173&view=1up&seq=9
In 1979, a woman who had distributed health information about kerosene was taken to court in Hersbruck, Germany.
Today Google remove most results of kerosene used as health treatment.
Remarks: I am not a doctor and I am not asking anyone to try it out, I am only sharing my personal experience, as soon I start my turpentine therapy I will share here on Avalon as well.
roguemoon
25th January 2021, 09:09
yet another death, all unrelated ofcourse!
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1388353/Covid-vaccine-news-side-effects-California-death-dead-vaccine-coronavirus-latest-update
XelNaga
25th January 2021, 09:45
Borax is helping!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1402740&viewfull=1#post1402740
I know this is a bit out there but I've had to increase my intake of borax amongst other things, as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system.
Hi Zirconian,
Do you mind expanding on this a little bit, I found it to be really interesting: "as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system".
PS: what it GI system?
Thanks in advance..
Bill Ryan
25th January 2021, 09:54
Borax is helping!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1402740&viewfull=1#post1402740
I know this is a bit out there but I've had to increase my intake of borax amongst other things, as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system.
Hi Zirconian,
Do you mind expanding on this a little bit, I found it to be really interesting: "as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system".
PS: what it GI system?
GI = Gastro-Intestinal. :thumbsup:
For more about Borax, do see this thread:
The Borax Conspiracy (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy/page4)
XelNaga
25th January 2021, 10:03
Borax is helping!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1402740&viewfull=1#post1402740
I know this is a bit out there but I've had to increase my intake of borax amongst other things, as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system.
Hi Zirconian,
Do you mind expanding on this a little bit, I found it to be really interesting: "as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system".
PS: what it GI system?
GI = Gastro-Intestinal. :thumbsup:
For more about Borax, do see this thread:
The Borax Conspiracy (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy/page4)
Thanks Bill :blushing:
gord
25th January 2021, 13:18
Rockefellers started selling kerosene as a cancer cure before chemotherapy exist.
A reminder of what that refers to from How & Why Big Oil Conquered The World (https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/):
But that story, properly told, begins somewhere unexpected. Not in Pennsylvania with the first commercial drilling operation and the first oil boom, but in the rural backwoods of early 19th century New York State. And it doesn’t start with crude oil or its derivatives, but a different product altogether: snake oil.
“Dr. Bill Livingston, Celebrated Cancer Specialist” was the very image of the traveling snake oil salesman. He was neither a doctor nor a cancer specialist; his real name was not even Livingston. More to the point, the “Rock Oil” tonic he pawned was a useless mixture of laxative and petroleum and had no effect whatsoever on the cancer of the poor townsfolk he conned into buying it.
He lived the life of a vagabond, always on the run from the last group of people he had fooled, engaged in ever-more-outrageous deceptions to make sure that the past wouldn’t catch up with him. He abandoned his first wife and their six children to start a bigamous marriage in Canada at the same time as he fathered two more children by a third woman. He adopted the name “Livingston” after he was indicted for raping a girl in Cayuga in 1849.
“Dr. Bill Livingston, Celebrated Cancer Specialist”, also known as "Devil Bill", was William Avery Rockefeller, John D. Rockefeller's father. Before he was in Cayuga, he lived just outside of Albany, and had a house less than a mile from where I grew up. The local historical society has an old map showing it as his residence. When I was a teenager, it had already been abandoned and falling apart for a long time. We used to go there and shoot up the walls with a 22 calibre pellet rifle, and nobody ever said a word as we walked through town with it. It has since been restored, and has a historic site plaque.
Off topic, with no intent to hijack the thread, so carry on.
palehorse
26th January 2021, 09:56
Rockefellers started selling kerosene as a cancer cure before chemotherapy exist.
A reminder of what that refers to from How & Why Big Oil Conquered The World (https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/):
But that story, properly told, begins somewhere unexpected. Not in Pennsylvania with the first commercial drilling operation and the first oil boom, but in the rural backwoods of early 19th century New York State. And it doesn’t start with crude oil or its derivatives, but a different product altogether: snake oil.
“Dr. Bill Livingston, Celebrated Cancer Specialist” was the very image of the traveling snake oil salesman. He was neither a doctor nor a cancer specialist; his real name was not even Livingston. More to the point, the “Rock Oil” tonic he pawned was a useless mixture of laxative and petroleum and had no effect whatsoever on the cancer of the poor townsfolk he conned into buying it.
He lived the life of a vagabond, always on the run from the last group of people he had fooled, engaged in ever-more-outrageous deceptions to make sure that the past wouldn’t catch up with him. He abandoned his first wife and their six children to start a bigamous marriage in Canada at the same time as he fathered two more children by a third woman. He adopted the name “Livingston” after he was indicted for raping a girl in Cayuga in 1849.
“Dr. Bill Livingston, Celebrated Cancer Specialist”, also known as "Devil Bill", was William Avery Rockefeller, John D. Rockefeller's father. Before he was in Cayuga, he lived just outside of Albany, and had a house less than a mile from where I grew up. The local historical society has an old map showing it as his residence. When I was a teenager, it had already been abandoned and falling apart for a long time. We used to go there and shoot up the walls with a 22 calibre pellet rifle, and nobody ever said a word as we walked through town with it. It has since been restored, and has a historic site plaque.
Off topic, with no intent to hijack the thread, so carry on.
Thanks for this information, I didn't know the full story, I heard once that Rockefellers oil industry was selling kerosene and it was used for cancer treatment, like more than a hundred years ago..
and that's cool you shot the devil's old house :)
The elders in my family used kerosene for many different things, my granpa used to take a small spoon of it periodically, the smell is strong enough to keep anyone out of it, but he did anyway his entire life, he always said the liniment was great for kill parasites.
Mike Gorman
26th January 2021, 11:18
The primary rationalisation for making this requirement a compulsory matter, this is based on the idea that a 'Vaccine' traditionally confers immunity, the airlines are of course adopting this maddening virtue signaling position
that so many corporate PR organisations have adopted, the same ones who automatically supported BLM, because, black lives really do matter, right? Their political naivety, and superficial support based on a face-value assessment just beggars belief.
This vaccine does not confer, or produce any kind of immunity to this condition, it is at the very best a type of treatment for symptom relief. Messenger RNA nanoparticle lipid envelope---WHAT?---We should be able to counter the airlines with the hard, scientific reality that this Vaccine is not a vaccine! There can be no medical justification for this, for a condition 99.7% of people recover from naturally. This is utter madness.
roguemoon
26th January 2021, 13:13
yet more deaths, this is just a first wave of extermination, kill off the old and the sick then turn your attention to the younger groups, thin the herd and blame the virus.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/53-dead-in-gibraltar-in-10-days-after-experimental-pfizer-mrna-covid-injections-started/
Zirconian
26th January 2021, 14:20
Borax is helping!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1402740&viewfull=1#post1402740
I know this is a bit out there but I've had to increase my intake of borax amongst other things, as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system.
Hi Zirconian,
Do you mind expanding on this a little bit, I found it to be really interesting: "as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system".
PS: what it GI system?
GI = Gastro-Intestinal. :thumbsup:
For more about Borax, do see this thread:
The Borax Conspiracy (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy/page4)
Hi XelNaga,
Replying to you and including link to the excellent Borax Thread.
I was born feeling frequencies and clearing them in equal measure. Hard to believe but so.
When I was younger, it was difficult as I truly did not know what I was feeling and spent most of my time not being truly grounded into my body, it was easier that way. As I matured and started to understand I was born different from most, I started to ground, understand what I was born with and use it to heal.
I can feel the frequency of this so called vaccine as it radiates off people. In the job I do,well everyone has been vaccinated, in their eyes to be vaccinated is to be a responsible citizen for the good of the nation.
What I actually feel from the vaccine is disturbing (that is all I wish to say) and disturbing to my body, as it is clearing it. Avoid this, if you can.
However, as I'm into positive solutions, if you look at the Borax thread, you will see a discussion as to how borax is helping, clear out this vaccine frequency and I would use borax if I was forced to take the vaccine. This is not happening as yet but I am under much peer pressure to take it. (Avoiding well, at the moment)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1402417&viewfull=1#post1402417
The Borax thread is Avalon at it's best. Groups of people posting with researched solutions.
My post is not a research piece but answers the question as to how I can feel the frequencies, one could argue it is a bit too subjective but I offer it for consideration.
XelNaga
28th January 2021, 12:27
Borax is helping!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1402740&viewfull=1#post1402740
I know this is a bit out there but I've had to increase my intake of borax amongst other things, as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system.
Hi Zirconian,
Do you mind expanding on this a little bit, I found it to be really interesting: "as the frequency coming off people who have had the vaccine is actually upsetting my GI system".
PS: what it GI system?
GI = Gastro-Intestinal. :thumbsup:
For more about Borax, do see this thread:
The Borax Conspiracy (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy/page4)
Hi XelNaga,
Replying to you and including link to the excellent Borax Thread.
I was born feeling frequencies and clearing them in equal measure. Hard to believe but so.
When I was younger, it was difficult as I truly did not know what I was feeling and spent most of my time not being truly grounded into my body, it was easier that way. As I matured and started to understand I was born different from most, I started to ground, understand what I was born with and use it to heal.
I can feel the frequency of this so called vaccine as it radiates off people. In the job I do,well everyone has been vaccinated, in their eyes to be vaccinated is to be a responsible citizen for the good of the nation.
What I actually feel from the vaccine is disturbing (that is all I wish to say) and disturbing to my body, as it is clearing it. Avoid this, if you can.
However, as I'm into positive solutions, if you look at the Borax thread, you will see a discussion as to how borax is helping, clear out this vaccine frequency and I would use borax if I was forced to take the vaccine. This is not happening as yet but I am under much peer pressure to take it. (Avoiding well, at the moment)
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63939-The-Borax-Conspiracy&p=1402417&viewfull=1#post1402417
The Borax thread is Avalon at it's best. Groups of people posting with researched solutions.
My post is not a research piece but answers the question as to how I can feel the frequencies, one could argue it is a bit too subjective but I offer it for consideration.
Hi Zirconian,
Thank you very much for this answer, I appreciate it. It sounds like you had, and still have, a really interesting and important adventure here on Earth. If you ever change your mind about explaining a bit more about those disturbing feeling you have from vaccinated people, I'm sure there are many of us here who would like to hear about it :o
I will definitely avoid any kind of vaccine, I work at a small company and no one can force me to take it. I know it's a completely different story for people who work at big companies. I hope you will be able to defend yourself as well.
I'll make sure to read through that thread.
Thanks, kind regards..
Mercedes
28th January 2021, 19:09
Get a load of this, now this is just ... I am at a loss for words!!! No one is safe now!!!
The bottom link is the source it's Forbes in spanish
https://thecovidhunter.com/the-covid-hunter
https://www.forbes.com.mx/tecnologia-crean-escaner-que-detecta-covid-19-personas-y-superficies-se-fabricara-en-mexico/
araucaria
28th January 2021, 19:24
Get a load of this, now this is just ... I am at a loss for words!!! No one is safe now!!!
The bottom link is the source it's Forbes in spanish
https://thecovidhunter.com/the-covid-hunter
https://www.forbes.com.mx/tecnologia-crean-escaner-que-detecta-covid-19-personas-y-superficies-se-fabricara-en-mexico/
Sorry if I’m being dim, but I don’t understand your problem. If you can detect covid on surfaces and wipe it off, and in people and send them home, then everyone else can get on with their lives and get this pandemic sorted. If it is a bona fide pandemic, then that is the way forward. If not, then the majority will be freed up to get demonstrating or whatever else it takes.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, why would you detect covid on a piece of furniture with a hugely oversensitive device like the PCR test?
:confused:
Mercedes
28th January 2021, 22:23
Get a load of this, now this is just ... I am at a loss for words!!! No one is safe now!!!
The bottom link is the source it's Forbes in spanish
https://thecovidhunter.com/the-covid-hunter
https://www.forbes.com.mx/tecnologia-crean-escaner-que-detecta-covid-19-personas-y-superficies-se-fabricara-en-mexico/
Sorry if I’m being dim, but I don’t understand your problem. If you can detect covid on surfaces and wipe it off, and in people and send them home, then everyone else can get on with their lives and get this pandemic sorted. If it is a bona fide pandemic, then that is the way forward. If not, then the majority will be freed up to get demonstrating or whatever else it takes.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, why would you detect covid on a piece of furniture with a hugely oversensitive device like the PCR test?
:confused:
The problem from my point of view is that they have been using the PCR test to diagnose covid cases, and even the inventor of the test (Mullis) said the test was not to be used as a diagnose test for disease, also the WHO has been publicly stating that there are risks in getting false positive by PCR testing because of the many cycles they put the samples to, 40-50 or even higher and so they end up with many false positives sacrificing accuracy. And now this COVID Hunter, ( Nice name uh?) what method or what biological material is it going to detect to give a positive or negative result? According to Dr Wu Zunyou they did not isolate the virus
ZCUkJ5T2kGc
So what is the control they use and by which they set the covid hunter to give positive or negatives?
roguemoon
29th January 2021, 10:30
(i'm avoiding starting a thread with the following info because you never know who's nosy into this forum)
The Pfizer/ Moderna Vaccine – Are they Binary poisons?
Please listen to former President of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons Dr. Lee Merrit Speak the Radioactive Truth About Covid Vaccines (Video below)
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=50235
Ive also added this. This is a June 29th 2020 clip of Bill Gates with his wife opening discussing the current epidemic stating with a bizarre grin on both their faces that when the next one comes it will “get attention this time.”
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=18632
what I believe you are seeing in this video is something called Duping delight, it is a particular micro expression a person will display that betrays a sense of enjoyment they are getting out of controlling and deceiving. It is a very important expression to watch out for in catching dishonesty in a person.
Question is: are these vaccines merely part 1 of something far more sinister?
araucaria
29th January 2021, 10:57
Get a load of this, now this is just ... I am at a loss for words!!! No one is safe now!!!
The bottom link is the source it's Forbes in spanish
https://thecovidhunter.com/the-covid-hunter
https://www.forbes.com.mx/tecnologia-crean-escaner-que-detecta-covid-19-personas-y-superficies-se-fabricara-en-mexico/
Sorry if I’m being dim, but I don’t understand your problem. If you can detect covid on surfaces and wipe it off, and in people and send them home, then everyone else can get on with their lives and get this pandemic sorted. If it is a bona fide pandemic, then that is the way forward. If not, then the majority will be freed up to get demonstrating or whatever else it takes.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, why would you detect covid on a piece of furniture with a hugely oversensitive device like the PCR test?
:confused:
The problem from my point of view is that they have been using the PCR test to diagnose covid cases, and even the inventor of the test (Mullis) said the test was not to be used as a diagnose test for disease, also the WHO has been publicly stating that there are risks in getting false positive by PCR testing because of the many cycles they put the samples to, 40-50 or even higher and so they end up with many false positives sacrificing accuracy. And now this COVID Hunter, ( Nice name uh?) what method or what biological material is it going to detect to give a positive or negative result? According to Dr Wu Zunyou they did not isolate the virus
ZCUkJ5T2kGc
So what is the control they use and by which they set the covid hunter to give positive or negatives?
OK, so what I'm saying is that if you have a fictitious pandemic, then the way out of the situation can/will also be a fiction. If you disinfect a table, then it will be be clean, even if it was clean before. But now people know it is safe, which is reassuring.
Ernie Nemeth
29th January 2021, 12:00
The more I think about it the more I believe this device is a sham. It cannot possibly work as advertised. I would have to see it in action before I accept this report.
Karen (Geophyz)
29th January 2021, 14:15
My sister told me this morning that she and her husband have an appointment to get their vaccinations today. She said, "And you should too, it is good for the people and the country". I felt like she way hypnotized or something. The movie Body Snatchers (1956) came to mind quickly. I can't talk to her, they have made their minds up. It is just weird.
Ratszinger
29th January 2021, 14:40
I understand that the shots (vaccines) are a series of injections, designed to install via intravenous injection the minerals and elements associated by ancient 'resonant' sciences like Egyptian temples with various electrical centers of the human body (AKA, Chakras) and that after the last injection the human body can be hijacked via the electrical grid of the body itself to affect chosen areas of the body by a third party. So a signal resonant signal could be offset remotely to disturb the very electrical grid of the body itself, thus controlling it to make it obey. Disobey you could be punished in a various ways from numbness to stroke depending on what that third party wanted to do to punish you.
ByTheNorthernSea
29th January 2021, 15:04
This could provide the first legal basis (in Europe at least) outlawing any attempt at vaccination by force and also curtailing any form of discrimination against those that chose not to be vaccinated.
Even though we (the UK) have left the EU I believe we're still part of The Council of Europe, so this might at least (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no expert here) offer a route via the courts to enforce some legal protection against covid vaccine abuse by the zealots.
I'm sure, though, that this'll all be tested fairly soon...
https://twitter.com/Mickandhismusic/status/1354950316442136578?s=20
pueblo
29th January 2021, 15:47
This could provide the first legal basis (in Europe at least) outlawing any attempt at vaccination by force and also curtailing any form of discrimination against those that chose not to be vaccinated.
Even though we (the UK) have left the EU I believe we're still part of The Council of Europe, so this might at least (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no expert here) offer a route via the courts to enforce some legal protection against covid vaccine abuse by the zealots.
I'm sure, though, that this'll all be tested fairly soon...
https://twitter.com/Mickandhismusic/status/1354950316442136578?s=20
Here is the relevant part of the document...
7.3.1 ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is NOT mandatory and that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to get themselves vaccinated, if they do not wish to do so themselves;
7.3.2 ensure that no one is discriminated against for not having been vaccinated, due to possible health risks or not wanting to be vaccinated;
Link to the Council of Europe document...
Covid-19 vaccines: ethical, legal and practical considerations
https://pace.coe.int/en/files/29004/html
pueblo
29th January 2021, 15:53
Get a load of this, now this is just ... I am at a loss for words!!! No one is safe now!!!
The bottom link is the source it's Forbes in spanish
https://thecovidhunter.com/the-covid-hunter
https://www.forbes.com.mx/tecnologia-crean-escaner-que-detecta-covid-19-personas-y-superficies-se-fabricara-en-mexico/
Sorry if I’m being dim, but I don’t understand your problem. If you can detect covid on surfaces and wipe it off, and in people and send them home, then everyone else can get on with their lives and get this pandemic sorted. If it is a bona fide pandemic, then that is the way forward. If not, then the majority will be freed up to get demonstrating or whatever else it takes.
Looking at it from the opposite angle, why would you detect covid on a piece of furniture with a hugely oversensitive device like the PCR test?
:confused:
The problem from my point of view is that they have been using the PCR test to diagnose covid cases, and even the inventor of the test (Mullis) said the test was not to be used as a diagnose test for disease, also the WHO has been publicly stating that there are risks in getting false positive by PCR testing because of the many cycles they put the samples to, 40-50 or even higher and so they end up with many false positives sacrificing accuracy. And now this COVID Hunter, ( Nice name uh?) what method or what biological material is it going to detect to give a positive or negative result? According to Dr Wu Zunyou they did not isolate the virus
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So what is the control they use and by which they set the covid hunter to give positive or negatives?
Just watched a bit of the 'Covid Hunter' video... the way they confirmed their device works is by using it on a range of Covid positive PCR swabs, their device confirmed that ALL the Covid positive PCR were positive for Covid!
Given the PCR test's tendency to give false positives I think it is fair to assume that the Covid Hunter is another BS test.
This is at the 29min 27sec mark in this video https://www.press.thecovidhunter.com/
Bassplayer1
30th January 2021, 20:13
I'm copying this over from another thread - sorry for being repetitive and feel free to delete.
My Mum just called to say that my healthy Uncle had the vaccine today and a few hours later my Aunt found him slumped unconscious, soaked in perspiration and unable to wake him. He's been rushed to a heart hospital somewhere near London UK. But, the additional worrying thing is that a friend of theirs also had the same thing, same symptoms happen after the jab last week and is still in hospital!!
My Aunt asked if it has anything to do with the vaccine and not surprisingly she was told no. Two men with the same symptoms after a vaccine doesn't feel right to me.
For British folk here, both men live in Colchester Essex and I think they had Pfizer.
Both my parents had the Astro Zenecca jab this morning. I tried to persuade them otherwise, but what can we do?
Anyway, my response here is to highlight two possible cases in the same small town.
I'm going to research these symptoms. I maybe over reacting, but it doesn't add up to me.
East Sun
30th January 2021, 22:43
I'm in the USA but my take on this situation may be right or wrong but it
is mine for better or worse.
From what I have learned I'll just say, read up and learn as much as you can and listen
to the nurse whistleblowers.
Good luck!
Zirconian
1st February 2021, 01:15
I have really deliberated with myself whether to post this update.
Some of this information may sound a bit out there but I post it for consideration.
My intentions are to alert but not to create fear. There is always a solution and it's usually found in Gaia or source/creator etc.
I am surrounded by well meaning people who have had this vaccine and I can feel and absorb a frequency radiating off these vaccinated people and it is dark and unpleasant.
I can usually clear most frequencies that I pick up from people but at the moment, I am finding clearing the vaccine frequency very difficult.
Taking diluted borax everyday is helping (dilute of 1 teaspoon of borax in a litre of water-taking around 6 tea spoonfuls a day) but to clear out all the frequency from my body, I have to take a larger dose of the powder which I feel is not sustainable every day (just thinking of my kidneys). Therefore, I have resorted in addition to the above to taking a quarter of a teaspoon of borax in a small glass of water, 2-3 times a week ) with good effect but once in the presence of these vaccinated people, I quickly go back to square one.
I've been trialing just holding a small bag of borax in my left hand and it does draw out a lot more of the frequency. In combination with taking borax internally, It has worked mostly for me today to get over yesterday's onslaught.
I'm going to carry a bag of borax around with me everyday and see what happens. For me, it is clearly an antidote frequency to the vaccine frequency but I feel there is more to this vaccine and there may need to be another additional powder to take.
For those that are interested in this left field approach, I'll let you know how I get on. Solutions for this vaccination, now that I've got an idea what we are facing, is for me of paramount importance. For those of you who understand timelines, it's vital we keep on finding solutions for this.
I believe we will.
DaveToo
1st February 2021, 03:48
I have really deliberated with myself whether to post this update.
Some of this information may sound a bit out there but I post it for consideration.
My intentions are to alert but not to create fear. There is always a solution and it's usually found in Gaia or source/creator etc.
I am surrounded by well meaning people who have had this vaccine and I can feel and absorb a frequency radiating off these vaccinated people and it is dark and unpleasant.
I can usually clear most frequencies that I pick up from people but at the moment, I am finding clearing the vaccine frequency very difficult...
I wouldn't be surprised to learn a few months from now that a BIG PHARMA company has come out with a special device that can scan your body to tell if you have taken the injection or not!!!
roguemoon
1st February 2021, 08:57
this has got to be watched, there's tons of info here that's got to be assessed.
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=50668
pueblo
1st February 2021, 10:00
this has got to be watched, there's tons of info here that's got to be assessed.
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=50668
I have read multiple sources claiming the PCR test is the vaccine ie. nanotech on the swab inserted through the nasal passage close to the blood brain barrier.
There is an interesting point raised in the video posted above by roguemoon that I had always thought strange. We are mandated to wear a mask over the mouth and nose to supposedly stop transmission of the virus through particles in our SALIVA.
If the virus is present in our saliva why can they not just swab the inside of the mouth for the PCR test? Why do they have to stick a swab all the way up your nose to your blood brain barrier??
I wonder could you bring your own Q-Tip to a PCR test??? I think I can guess the answer to the question.
Zirconian
1st February 2021, 11:00
this has got to be watched, there's tons of info here that's got to be assessed.
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=50668
Thanks for the information roguemoon.
The video may explain why people who have had the vaccine (or maybe the tests) are emitting a strange frequency. Question is, have they now got some sort of nano wifi tech in their biology that is now linked up to satellite tech? Is that the frequency I'm feeling?
Bill Ryan
1st February 2021, 11:07
this has got to be watched, there's tons of info here that's got to be assessed.
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=50668
I have read multiple sources claiming the PCR test is the vaccine ie. nanotech on the swab inserted through the nasal passage close to the blood brain barrier.
Mike Adams (naturalnews.com (http://naturalnews.com)) is aware of the claims, and stated a couple days ago he's going to get hold of some nasal swabs and look at them closely through an electron microscope in his lab.
Zirconian
1st February 2021, 11:09
pueblo,
The UK have brought out saliva tests.
They are accused of not being accurate.
The latreral flow tests accuracy has also been questioned.
This is from the UK Guardian Newspaper
Experts question claimed accuracy of Covid-19 saliva tests
(This article is more than 1 month old)
Two members of the Royal Statistical Society say UK government’s figures rely on spiked lab tests and not real world tests
Saliva tests for Covid-19, which are being introduced for NHS workers as part of the government’s mass testing programme, pick up only 13% of people with low levels of the virus and not 91%, as the official assessment has claimed, according to experts.
Two members of the Royal Statistical Society’s working group looking at the accuracy of Covid tests have questioned the results and the way they have been evaluated.
Prof Jon Deeks from Birmingham University and Prof Sheila Bird, formerly of the MRC Biostatistics Unit at Cambridge University, say the tests perform poorly where people have low levels of the virus, which is often the case in people without symptoms.
They say the discrepancy in the figures is because the evaluation used “spiked” samples – saliva to which the virus has been added in the lab. Those manufactured samples were picked up efficiently by the test, but “real world” samples from people with asymptomatic Covid were not.
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The OptiGene RT-Lamp test, which can be used with saliva samples or nose swabs, was intended to be part of the Liverpool mass testing programme, routinely offered to asymptomatic NHS workers. People in the community have been given lateral flow tests, which involve nose and throat swabs. Both tests have the advantage of speed, with results within half an hour.
The accuracy of the Lamp tests came into question last month, however, when a letter emerged from scientists with Greater Manchester’s mass testing expert group (MTEG). They said they found only 47% accuracy and warned that the tests should not be widely used in care homes and hospitals.
But on Monday, the government said the Lamp tests had passed an evaluation with 79% overall accuracy, which included high and low virus levels using both swabs and saliva samples. Most of the testing took place in a pilot in Southampton, where 55,000 people in the NHS and at the university took part.
The health minister Lord Bethell said the Optigene Lamp tests’ sensitivity had been confirmed in the lab and in the field.
But Deeks said the data released on Monday showed that spiked samples had been used to increase the number of samples where the virus levels were low. Using laboratory-made “spiked” samples did not reflect performance in the real world and meant that some people would wrongly think they were in the clear when they had the virus, he said.
“Before the government decides that these tests are to be used in the population, it is really important that we find out how well they work in people like us. This study has mixed together real clinical data with data from samples that have been made in the laboratory. This has led to its performance on saliva looking better than it is, and wrongly suggests that it can detect Sars-CoV-2 in samples with less virus in them,” he said.
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Both the Lamp tests and the lateral flow tests were part of Operation Moonshot, of which the Liverpool programme is the pilot for the whole country. The government’s hope is to use the saliva tests in care homes, hospitals and universities.
Bird said tests should be tried out in the context in which they are going to be used. Early on in the development of a test, she said, you would use spiked samples to assess how well it was doing. “Then you gradually move closer and closer to the real world and it is the real world that matters. If you are using the test very widely and helping people to make decisions about their own lives and the lives of their relatives, you want to know about its performance in the context of use.”
A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson said: “With up to a third of individuals with Covid-19 not displaying symptoms, broadening testing to identify those showing no symptoms and who can infect people unknowingly will mean finding positive cases more quickly and break chains of transmission.
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“We are committed to using the latest testing technology, and the country’s leading scientists have rigorously evaluated the Optigene Lamp test in the lab and in the field and confirmed its sensitivity for asymptomatic testing.
“The use of spiked samples is a perfectly valid and standard practice for a study of this sort; it is in accordance with the guidelines laid down by the Technical Validation Group. The inclusion of spiked samples does not change the conclusions made”.
OptiGene was approached for comment but made no response.
wondering
1st February 2021, 13:31
I was required to have a COVID test recently prior to an outpatient procedure, although I would have preferred not to be tested. The swab that was used was small in diameter, but covered in short bristles, nothing like a q-tip. It was not comfortable to have done. Whether it could have been used for innoculation is hard to say, but I suppose anything is possible. I also wonder if there are a variety of different swabs being used?
Zirconian
1st February 2021, 13:53
Wondering,
There are a variety of swabs being used depending on the make and type of test.
You can google it and view the images. I just couldn't upload some of them for this post.
I'd be very interested to see what Mike Adams finds on the swabs seen through an electron microscope. Personally, I'm not totally sure about nano tech on the swabs but I'm convinced the vax has nano tech within it and it emits out a frequency that has overwhelmed the natural human energy field.
The Borax Thread has some solutions for it.
roguemoon
1st February 2021, 15:34
Can i just raise another query that arose from this video representation?
The NHS are now advising the follow up second jab to be administered 12 weeks after the first instead of the 2 weeks as required by Pfizer.
I dug up this archive information about professor charles Richet, a French physiologist famed for his work on immunology, the man who discovered anaphylaxis (for which he earned the Nobel prize). He wrote that follow up injection of any protein can induce a violent reaction if administered more than three weeks apart.
So with that in mind unknown to the patient they may have become more sensitive to anaphylaxis which is why Richet advised double doses be given at the most two weeks apart, according to Doctor Simon Stevens, chief exec of the NHS, he is advising 12 weeks, that’s 84 days between injections!
see link below (sorry i don't know how to shorten link, forgive me).
https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/second-covid-vaccine-doses-will-be-prioritised-at-12-weeks-says-nhs-chief/#:~:text=says%20NHS%20chief-,Second%20Covid%20vaccine%20doses%20'will%20be%20prioritised'%20at,12%20weeks%2C%20says%20NHS%20chie f&text=Patients%20due%20their%20second%20Covid,England's%20chief%20executive%20has%20pledged
Blastolabs
1st February 2021, 17:12
198 Million Flu Vaccines Given in US in 2020
78 Flu Vaccine Deaths on CDC VAERS for 2020
Source:
https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html
24 million Doses of Covid-19 Vaccines Given in US 2021
329 Covid-19 Vaccine Deaths on CDC VAERS
Source: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html
Most deaths do not happen until after the second vaccine and very few people have received both. It appears this might get very bad before people in control take notice
roguemoon
1st February 2021, 21:19
and the terrible news just keeps on coming.
Most post vax deaths do not happen until after the second vaccine and very few people have received both. It appears this might get very bad before people in control take notice
Here is what the Daily Echo is reporting about the nursing home deaths in Basingstoke in the UK:https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/19043944.coronavirus-outbreak-22-deaths-pemberley-house-care-home/
At least twenty-two people have died at a Hampshire care home (Daily Mail is reporting 24 deaths) in one of the worst known outbreaks of the coronavirus pandemic to date.
The deaths occurred at Pemberley House Care Home in Basingstoke, operated by private firm Avery Healthcare.
The outbreak was first declared on Tuesday, January 5, with 60 per cent of its residents testing positive for the disease, according to sources.
Within three weeks, 22 people had died – over one-third of the home’s residents.
It is understood the outbreak started as residents began to have their first coronavirus vaccines. The Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulation Agency (MHRA) said there was no suggestion the vaccine was responsible for the deaths. YEAH RIGHT!
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/cna-nursing-home-whistleblower-seniors-are-dying-like-flies-after-covid-injections-speak-out/
12,400 People in Israel Tested Positive for Coronavirus AFTER Being Injected with the Experimental Pfizer COVID Shot
https://medicalkidnap.com/2021/01/20/12400-people-in-israel-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-after-being-injected-with-the-experimental-pfizer-covid-shot/
Akasha
2nd February 2021, 21:42
The EU’s Parliamentary Assembly has declared that COVID vaccinations will not be mandatory. Click the link (here (https://pace.coe.int/en/files/29004/html)) and scroll down to point 7.3.1 but I would recommend reading all of it, particularly if you live in the EU.
7.3.1 ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is NOT mandatory and that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to get themselves vaccinated, if they do not wish to do so themselves;
Point 7.3.2 is also of interest as it states the following:
7.3.2 ensure that no one is discriminated against for not having been vaccinated, due to possible health risks or not wanting to be vaccinated;
I guess the second point stops employers coercing staff into getting the jab or at least will allow employees to sue for loss of earnings if they lose their job for refusing it.
It may also have positive ramifications against those airlines who have been trying to push the jab and fly agenda.
But hey, at this stage who knows?
Arcturian108
3rd February 2021, 11:16
One Lab Rat to another: "Are you getting vaccinated?" Second Rat replies: "Are you crazy, They haven't finished the Human trials yet"!
Journeyman
3rd February 2021, 11:35
198 Million Flu Vaccines Given in US in 2020
78 Flu Vaccine Deaths on CDC VAERS for 2020
Source:
https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html
24 million Doses of Covid-19 Vaccines Given in US 2021
329 Covid-19 Vaccine Deaths on CDC VAERS
Source: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html
Most deaths do not happen until after the second vaccine and very few people have received both. It appears this might get very bad before people in control take notice
As someone with family members who have had the first jab this is very worrying. :(
Tintin
3rd February 2021, 12:02
The EU’s Parliamentary Assembly has declared that COVID vaccinations will not be mandatory. Click the link (here (https://pace.coe.int/en/files/29004/html)) and scroll down to point 7.3.1 but I would recommend reading all of it, particularly if you live in the EU.
7.3.1 ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is NOT mandatory and that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to get themselves vaccinated, if they do not wish to do so themselves;
Point 7.3.2 is also of interest as it states the following:
7.3.2 ensure that no one is discriminated against for not having been vaccinated, due to possible health risks or not wanting to be vaccinated;
I guess the second point stops employers coercing staff into getting the jab or at least will allow employees to sue for loss of earnings if they lose their job for refusing it.
It may also have positive ramifications against those airlines who have been trying to push the jab and fly agenda.
But hey, at this stage who knows?
Thanks :thumbsup:
Also, the UKMFA (UK Medical Freedom Alliance) has reiterated this along with further guidance on their own website here: https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/6017f56ad166465fb9025da6_UKMFA_L4L_Workers_Union-Employers_Vaccine_Open_Letter.pdf
Additionally, as has been pointed out before:
15. Published claims of effectiveness were based on interim analyses of trial data, assessing an extremely small number of trial participants. This numbered only 94 out of 40,000 participants in the Pfizer trial (0.2% of the total cohort) who were the first participants to develop mild symptoms and who tested PCR positive for SARS-CoV-2. The efficacy claim is based on the fact that 95% of this small group were in the placebo arm. Due to the small numbers, we consider that this has limited statistical significance and , in any case, is only a measure of Relative Risk Reduction. Closer scrutiny of the figures reveals that the Absolute Risk Reduction to an individual inferred by the vaccine is only about 0.4%. In addition, the full raw trial data is yet to be published and multiple cases of clinical disease, including two cases of serious disease in the vaccine group, were not included in the analysis, as they were not confirmed with a positive test.
...
17. For a disease that has an infection fatality rate of <0.1% for most of the population (aged <70 years), the usefulness of mass vaccination programmes is currently questionable, especially in the absence of robust safety data. Even in the elderly, aged >70 years, the recovery rate from Covid-19 is in the range of the claimed effectiveness of the currently approved vaccines
23. Attempts at developing a vaccine against coronavirus have been in progress for almost 20 years at least since the emergence of *SARS-CoV-2 in 2002. These have been unsuccessful, mainly due to serious safety concerns in the animal trials. Specifically, an effect of immune enhancement or antibody-dependent immune enhancement (ADIE) was observed, which caused animals to develop more severe disease when exposed to the wild virus after immunisation.
*This appears to have been a typo
Source documents linked via the pdf link provided.
Sue (Ayt)
3rd February 2021, 15:53
There is an interesting point raised in the video posted above by roguemoon that I had always thought strange. We are mandated to wear a mask over the mouth and nose to supposedly stop transmission of the virus through particles in our SALIVA.
If the virus is present in our saliva why can they not just swab the inside of the mouth for the PCR test? Why do they have to stick a swab all the way up your nose to your blood brain barrier??
I found it odd that the scientist who invented a saliva test for covid died just a few days ago, of a heart attack...
Andrew Brooks, Designer of COVID-19 Saliva Test, Dies at 51
The Rutgers University researcher created the first FDA-authorized spit test, which has since been used by millions of people.
Andrew Brooks, a molecular neuroscientist who developed the first COVID-19 saliva test to receive emergency use authorization by the US Food and Drug Administration, died on January 23 of a heart attack. He was 51.
In the early days of the pandemic, when testing resources such as swabs and reagents were scarce, Brooks’s saliva test offered a fast and reliable way to screen large numbers of people. The test, which he designed while head of the Rutgers-affiliated biorepository RUCDR Infinite Biologics, protected essential workers from exposure to the virus as they collected samples by doing away with the need for technicians to be on-hand to gather the fluid—people could simply spit into a cup. The FDA first authorized the test in April 2020, and a month later expanded marketing for in-home use.
“It completely mitigates the risk of contracting the disease while you’re getting a test,” Brooks told The Scientist in a July 2020 interview. “You don’t have to be in someone’s face like you do for a nasopharyngeal swab,” another type of test that faced severe supply shortages beginning in mid-March.
more: https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/andrew-brooks-designer-of-covid-19-saliva-test-dies-at-51-68414
pueblo
3rd February 2021, 16:29
Hard to see Vernon get so emotional at the end, he really is a good guy. So many people starting to reach breaking point with this ****. We have to stay strong and end the charade.
https://brandnewtube.com/v/fRdX4T
Eva2
3rd February 2021, 17:45
This tic-toc video someone who managed to get hold of one of the testing q-tips pulling apart the tip to see the contents - shows a lot of moving silver threads that are labelled as a synthetic life form:
https://www.facebook.com/masolei.romero/posts/3761462250582329
Matthew
3rd February 2021, 18:30
Hard to see Vernon get so emotional at the end, he really is a good guy. So many people starting to reach breaking point with this ****. We have to stay strong and end the charade.
https://brandnewtube.com/v/fRdX4T (https://brandnewtube.com/watch/doctors-and-nurses-giving-the-covid-19-vaccine-will-be-tried-as-war-criminals_7tNEBnZogbdlEXu.html)
His opening argument, on the authority of celebrity, was spot-on reasonable - you could show that to your blue-pilled grandma.
After that he mostly keeps his composure but elevates to being alarmed while making some points. At the end, after he has made his points, he is distressed. Because Vernon has a good grasp of subjects like Agenda 21, I guess having lots of the pieces, and then seeing a horrible, nay evil picture, no wonder he was distressed. The sinister implications his finding make to me (he doesn't spell it out), well, ..I'm finding it hard to elaborate in text-searchable-terms. Imo it's a see for yourself jobby, the video is 15m 18s long
Ernie Nemeth
3rd February 2021, 18:44
From now on I will be calling this an inoculation and not a vaccine or gene therapy. It is the most accurate descriptor.
Dick
3rd February 2021, 19:39
This tic-toc video someone who managed to get hold of one of the testing q-tips pulling apart the tip to see the contents - shows a lot of moving silver threads that are labelled as a synthetic life form:
https://www.facebook.com/masolei.romero/posts/3761462250582329
Video is taken down, i can’t see it, its “fact-checked” by Facebook, so we know what that means.
ByTheNorthernSea
3rd February 2021, 21:01
It's hard to tell what's actually going on here.
The COVID test q-tip is definately a different material to the standard one, but beyond that it's difficult to say what's we're witnessing. Is it static causing the covid test tip fibres to move? The clip is too blurred to tell...
Creepy though it is I'd need more evidence than this to be convinced of what the lady's claiming, that there's self-motivated nano particles in the test kit tips. From what I can see it could be just another type of material in the tip designed to collect more test material in a single pass...
This tic-toc video someone who managed to get hold of one of the testing q-tips pulling apart the tip to see the contents - shows a lot of moving silver threads that are labelled as a synthetic life form:
https://www.facebook.com/masolei.romero/posts/3761462250582329
roguemoon
4th February 2021, 08:56
this should be useful to members of the group following the cases of allergic reactions and deaths following the vaccinations.
big, big list!
https://prezi.com/i/byzl22mqwfaa/experiences-following-cvvaa/
Arcturian108
4th February 2021, 14:13
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/its-not-a-vaccine/
Alexandra Bruce summarizes the discussion on the video as follows:
The brilliant Dr David Martin leads a Zoom discussion between himself and Dr Judy Mikovits, Robert F Kennedy Jr and Dr Rocco Galati in this excerpt from the January 5th, 2021 two-hour online event, "Focus on Fauci", investigating the man who has been the Globalists' point man in destroying millions of lives.
He says, "Let's stipulate that this is not a vaccine. We need to be really clear. We're using the term 'vaccine' to sneak this thing under public health exemption.
"This is not a vaccine. This is an mRNA packaged in a fat envelope, that is delivered to a cell. It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen-creator. It is not a vaccine.
"Vaccines are actually a legally-defined term and they're a legally-defined term under public health law and they're a legally-defined term under CDC and FDA standards and a vaccine, specifically has to stimulate both an immunity within the person receiving it but it also has to disrupt transmission. And that is not what this is.
"They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand that is going into the cell is not to stop transmission. It is a treatment. But if it was discussed as a 'treatment', it would not get the sympathetic ear of public health authorities, because then, people wold say, 'Well, what other treatments are there?'
"The use of the term 'vaccine' is unconscionable...Remember, Moderna was started as a chemotherapy company for cancer, not as a vaccine manufacturer for SARS...
"If we said, 'We're going to give people prophylactic therapy for the cancer they don't have, you'd be laughed out of a room because it's a stupid idea. That's exactly what this is."
For a treasure trove of information about the criminal scamdemic, the KickThemAllOut Project has assembled a massive online library, where you can find out the truth about everything related to COVID-19: the fraudulent testing procedure, the fake case and death numbers, who Dr. Fauci really is, who Bill Gates really is, the truth about the vaccine industry and the dangers of their products and more.
roguemoon
4th February 2021, 14:49
thanks Arcturian108
https://kickthemallout.com/page.php/Latest_News
Trisher
7th February 2021, 09:04
This interview discusses the vaccine and destruction of consciousness and connection to Source, Morgellons (nano poisoning) and its connection to what is happening now, AI, following the herd, the agenda, trans humanism, denial of truth, how to move beyond this energetically and more. This rings true on so many levels and discusses the problem of why some people are not listening but going like lemmings over the cliff.
Z1NZvFWY2NU
roguemoon
7th February 2021, 10:46
the vaxtermination project's latest victims,
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/virginia-woman-dies-shortly-after-receiving-coronavirus-vaccine-n1256880
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13956949/143-brits-died-covid-jab-but-vaccines-safe/?utm_source=facebook
In the uk, and against the recommendations of the WHO and Pfizer themselves the British national health service (the NHS) has been instructed to delay the 2nd dose up to 12 weeks.
the 12 week gap is, in my belief, to the make sure any people that have become hypersensitive, will react badly when second dose is administered.
Just read up on Charles Richet who received the Nobel Prize for the discovery of anaphylaxis.
Most professionals i've read agree that the hypersensitive/ anaphylactic state never passes. In other words, once a subject has been anaphylactized/ or made hypersensitive then the subject can never go back to their former state. A return to normal is not possible. Subjects have been known who even after four years from the date of the first injection, were still hypersensitive, the phenomena are constant, whatever the poison used.
Matthew
16th February 2021, 01:10
India's expert panel rejects Pfizer's application for Covid-19 vaccine
Sohini Das | Mumbai
Last Updated at February 6, 2021 02:27 IST
India’s expert panel on Covid-19 drugs and vaccines has turned down US pharmaceutical major Pfizer's application for emergency use authorisation for its vaccine candidate -- already in use in the US and UK -- in the absence of any plan on the firm's part to generate safety and immunogenicity data in the local population.
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Pfizer on Friday said it had withdrawn its application, and would submit additional data as it becomes available in the near future
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https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/india-s-expert-panel-rejects-pfizer-s-application-for-covid-19-vaccine-121020600070_1.html
delfine
16th February 2021, 19:19
My granpa made use of sodium bicarbonate, kerosene and turpentine his entire life and he died of old age, almost a hundred years old. I do not listen what the big pharma says about safety of these old folks remedies, I will start using turpentine and I am already using sodium bicarbonate for the last 10 years or so, I am still alive :D
Kerosene is one of the best way to remove pathogenic microbes and parasites from the blood and bowel, it is also used for autoimmune diseases, you ask anyone from a so called undeveloped country what they do with kerose! sure not only for the lamps! The use of it goes back to the ancient times.
Rockefellers started selling kerosene as a cancer cure before chemotherapy exist.
Here is a document about kerosene applications for tuberculosis and other deceases https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.087013173&view=1up&seq=9
In 1979, a woman who had distributed health information about kerosene was taken to court in Hersbruck, Germany.
Today Google remove most results of kerosene used as health treatment.
Remarks: I am not a doctor and I am not asking anyone to try it out, I am only sharing my personal experience, as soon I start my turpentine therapy I will share here on Avalon as well.
I concur with that. I have followed a regimen of 2 tbsp kerosene pr. day for a month. But I'd preferred if somebody had warned me against taking the kerosene with cooked food, because when you do that, the kerosene goes from liquid form to steam form and enters your lungs. (I was close to asphyxiation). Apart from that the kerosene has a quite intoxicating effect. I felt like having had 2 bottles of wine every day :)
Matthew
5th March 2021, 00:54
Not sure whether to post this under cancel culture or here.
An audio clip of an independent political party member describing being cancelled trying to expose a growing vaccine apartheid.
https://twitter.com/explorer101A/status/1367631994893570053
More direct video link here (https://twitter.com/i/status/1367417065481641986)
Partial transcript of the referenced audio recording:
I hope you've been well but it's been very very, very intense here in Isreal. I don't know how much you've seen ... but it's a very frightening situation.
... We had a human rights movement, and we made it into a political party that's running, in our [unknown] in less than a month. And they're censoring us, and attacking us. And they wont allow any media, nothing. They took away the head of the parties medical licence. And they removed our platforms from Facebook. And now they won't even let the media writer about us.
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It's a very bad situation here. They're not letting children as young as 16 to take their [unknown] exams, without taking this injection. They are of course insisting people for work, they're making this green passport where half the population can't get into theatre or malls or all sorts of things unless you've taken the vaccination.
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Matthew
8th March 2021, 09:47
Not sure whether to post this under cancel culture or here.
An audio clip of an independent political party member describing being cancelled trying to expose a growing vaccine apartheid.
https://twitter.com/explorer101A/status/1367631994893570053
More direct video link here (https://twitter.com/i/status/1367417065481641986)
Partial transcript of the referenced audio recording:
I hope you've been well but it's been very very, very intense here in Isreal. I don't know how much you've seen ... but it's a very frightening situation.
... We had a human rights movement, and we made it into a political party that's running, in our [unknown] in less than a month. And they're censoring us, and attacking us. And they wont allow any media, nothing. They took away the head of the parties medical licence. And they removed our platforms from Facebook. And now they won't even let the media writer about us.
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It's a very bad situation here. They're not letting children as young as 16 to take their [unknown] exams, without taking this injection. They are of course insisting people for work, they're making this green passport where half the population can't get into theatre or malls or all sorts of things unless you've taken the vaccination.
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Bumping this. A harrowing account... I can't shake the feeling this sort of thing is coming to a country near you soon
UPDATE EDIT:
"The vaccine is our route to normal" - Matt Hancock 7/3/2021
Source: https://twitter.com/MattHancock/status/1368510892279742464
Matthew
8th March 2021, 21:31
Boris and vaccine passports "...within the domestic, UK economy"
We've never had this type of question before within the domestic, UK economy; within our own home market, ...
A few weeks ago 'vaccine papers' were ruled out. Then Gove was assigned to review them. Boris says they are some complexities but they are looking at how other countries have done it (Israel, I presume?)
edit: the LBC quote is talking about international vaccine passports I believe, not the domestic one - that's my impression in good faith
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1368959280943140867@LBC - Boris Johnson says he is looking at how vaccine passports might work and predicts they "will be a feature of our life in the future".
- 0:38 Boris says there 'are some complexities' and they is are looking at how other countries have done it
- Work is being done by Michael Gove
- "We've never had this type of question before within the domestic, UK economy; within our own home market, although clearly vaccine passports as an idea are not new when it comes to international travel, and I'm sure that will be a feature of our life in the future."
Delight
8th March 2021, 21:43
Boris and vaccine passports "...within the domestic, UK economy"
We've never had this type of question before within the domestic, UK economy; within our own home market, ...
A few weeks ago 'vaccine papers' were ruled out. Then Gove was assigned to review them. Boris says they are some complexities but they are looking at how other countries have done it (Israel, I presume?)
edit: the LBC quote is talking about international vaccine passports I believe, not the domestic one - that's my impression in good faith
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1368959280943140867@LBC - Boris Johnson says he is looking at how vaccine passports might work and predicts they "will be a feature of our life in the future".
- 0:38 Boris says there 'are some complexities' and they is are looking at how other countries have done it
- Work is being done by Michael Gove
- "We've never had this type of question before within the domestic, UK economy; within our own home market, although clearly vaccine passports as an idea are not new when it comes to international travel, and I'm sure that will be a feature of our life in the future."
Some of us NEVER want ANY vaccines. Some of us never felt worried about getting covid-19. Some of us know what we can do to support our bodies and TREAT the condition if it is acquired.
Now some have had their first vaccinations, and some have been coincidentally hit with death and some have felt ok and some not so....BUT they all should be glad! They should NOT associate with unvaxxed people and the unvaxxed should be kept out of society
IMO the propaganda is ever more UNBELIEVABLE.
This constant insane push to try to twist our minds (up is down and good is bad and bad is good) is infuriating.
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Robert Scott Bell like others is a voice of reason (https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MYGNmXeDgPKw). BUT will any of us make a difference? Will we Unvaxxed be in camps in a while? Will the Vaxxed WANT us in camps?
Matthew
8th March 2021, 22:08
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Robert Scott Bell like others is a voice of reason (https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MYGNmXeDgPKw). BUT will any of us make a difference? Will we Unvaxxed be in camps in a while? Will the Vaxxed WANT us in camps?
Conversationally, I really don't know which way it will go. Could be the UK government decide to follow Israel and introduce 'vaccine passports' and have a de facto apartheid, and political dissenters bullied more severely. But perhaps not, ...perhaps it will just fizzle into nothing.
Either way things will move quickly because it's 2021 and things do this year. So.. I think we'll find out soon. But I'm not optimistic; the government could have ended lockdown instantly.. or in four weeks or something. But instead we get a maze constructed out of 'death with' rather than 'death by' statistics. Why are they doing that? What are they really waiting for before we're free from this house arrest?
Matthew
8th March 2021, 22:53
This was reported a few days ago. This is about an event planned for September.
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Ian Brown: Ex-Stone Roses star pulls out of Neighbourhood Weekender festival in COVID-19 vaccination row
The singer is a vocal supporter of the anti-vax movement and has strongly criticised wearing masks and social distancing.
Bethany Minelle, news reporter @BethanyMinelle
https://news.sky.com/story/ex-stone-roses-star-ian-brown-pulls-out-of-music-festival-in-covid-vaccination-row-12236589?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
https://e3.365dm.com/21/03/1600x900/skynews-ian-brown-isle-of-wight_5293816.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20210305114340
Singer Ian Brown has pulled out of a music festival claiming the event was demanding COVID-19 vaccination as a condition of entry.
The ex-Stone Roses star, who has previously spoken out against coronavirus vaccines, lockdowns and face masks, had been due to headline the Neighbourhood Weekender festival in Warrington in September.
He tweeted: "My Saturday night headline show at NHBD Weekender Festival will now not happen! I refuse to accept vaccination proof as condition of entry. Refunds are available! X."
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Matthew
10th March 2021, 19:10
A UK government committee is proposing that people with 'vaccine hesitancy' could be Sectioned under the mental health act
Written evidence from Dr Lisa Forsberg*, Dr Isra Black**, Dr Thomas Douglas*, Dr Jonathan Pugh* (COV0220)
Compulsory vaccination for Covid-19 and human rights law
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https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/html
Tintin
10th March 2021, 20:29
This is about as powerful a statement I've read from anyone, anywhere:
Source: https://peakd.com/politics/@rappeh/rappeh-be-healthy-party-candidate-statement-ilana-rachel-daniel
Health advisor, health and safety researcher, activist, and writer.
I joined forces with my co-founders of the Rappeh party for the same reasons you have searched and arrived at this initiative: this movement is one that, finally, raises the bar. It leaves behind the arguments of right and left, pro and anti, even religious designations, and asks of us: what are the most basic common denominators we share?
Like many of you this past year I have witnessed the deliberate destruction of the values that we live by and the systems in place to uphold them in the name of "public health." I, like you, have sat up nights grappling with the inconsistencies in the explanations our government has offered for their policies. In the near five cumulative months we have sat in lockdown, I, like you, have seen a brightness in our children dim.
I have searched beyond the superficial sound bites we have been handed, for science and medicine with transparency and integrity, in order to make an educated risk-benefit analysis to guide crucial choices of health for my family.
After a full year, billions upon billions of dollars, and the most brilliant scientific minds at the task, I ask: how can deadly lockdowns and a risky, experimental, novel technology be our only options?
The cure has become far worse than the disease.
I maintain that the right to self determination and bodily autonomy are not privileges offered by government, but are inalienable rights inherent to every individual with whom we share the planet.
Informed consent is a basic component of a healthy and functioning society. The freedoms of speech, choice, and ability to earn an honest wage and raise a family accordingly are rights upon which the government may not intrude.
Our governments will not be returning us our freedoms. On the contrary, they take action to further eradicate them.
I am not a politician. I am part of this movement because this country is more than my home and our fellow citizens are more than neighbors.
This is our land and it is our refuge. The nations are watching now as they have always done. I wish to restore our ability to shine light to them.
This is our movement, this is our witness, this is our future.
It changes for the better the moment we together take the responsibility back.
Tintin
10th March 2021, 20:34
This interview discusses the vaccine and destruction of consciousness and connection to Source, Morgellons (nano poisoning) and its connection to what is happening now, AI, following the herd, the agenda, trans humanism, denial of truth, how to move beyond this energetically and more. This rings true on so many levels and discusses the problem of why some people are not listening but going like lemmings over the cliff.
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Drats. Removed from youtube.
Do we know, who made the video; who featured; topic?
Old Student
10th March 2021, 21:17
I have had both shots. I had a reaction to the second one, apparently most people do.
I have enough training to be able to recognize, treat, and ship people with anaphylaxis. I had nothing even close. But you know what is close to anaphylaxis? The cytokine storm that kills people with Covid on about the 14th day.
pyrangello
10th March 2021, 21:33
I think we can all agree vaccines isn't a one shot fits all, were all different, I just spoke with a friend of mine who his buddy caught covid at the beginning of this year, 68 years old, he never got rid of the cough ,he was one of the long haulers, he went into the store early this week and took the vaccine, He died that night this week. Another person I know is a lab tech at a hospital, this person said they would quit there job before getting the shot. I had heard that the vaccine is exacerbating growth in existing tumors. Guess the experiment will just have to take its course for the human case study.
Eric J (Viking)
10th March 2021, 21:36
I have had both shots. I had a reaction to the second one, apparently most people do.
I have enough training to be able to recognize, treat, and ship people with anaphylaxis. I had nothing even close. But you know what is close to anaphylaxis? The cytokine storm that kills people with Covid on about the 14th day.
If you don’t mind me asking ...Why have you taken both shots then.?
Viking
Old Student
10th March 2021, 21:44
If you don’t mind me asking ...Why have you taken both shots then.?
Viking
Because unless you are given J&J, it's a two shot regimen. Two shots, one month apart.
Bill Ryan
10th March 2021, 22:09
I think we can all agree vaccines isn't a one shot fits all, were all different, I just spoke with a friend of mine who his buddy caught covid at the beginning of this year, 68 years old, he never got rid of the cough ,he was one of the long haulers, he went into the store early this week and took the vaccine, He died that night this week. Another person I know is a lab tech at a hospital, this person said they would quit there job before getting the shot. I had heard that the vaccine is exacerbating growth in existing tumors. Guess the experiment will just have to take its course for the human case study.I didn't realize that post was so shocking until I got half way through. Jeez. People are getting killed by this thing.
Not everyone — of course. But some, for sure. The facts and reports are all right there. :flower:
Taking the vaccine might be fine for you. As long as your immune system doesn't fail.
Considering all the available evidence (which is sporadic and often anecdotal), it seems to me that the principal hypothesis is EXACTLY what I said in this post of mine 3 hours ago (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114271-Top-vaccine-developer-Dr-Geert-Vanden-Bossche-warns-against-vaccine-rollout&p=1415467&viewfull=1#post1415467) on the important new Geert Vanden Bossche thread. It's all starting to come into focus.
Top vaccine developer Dr Geert Vanden Bossche warns against vaccine rollout (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114271-Top-vaccine-developer-Dr-Geert-Vanden-Bossche-warns-against-vaccine-rollout)
The vaccine (assuming they all work similarly) is very specifically targeted, like a kind of DNA hack. (Software hacks need to be precisely written and focused, too.)
It does one specific thing. But the side-effect of that is that the immune system is weakened when it has to deal with anything else.
This is what's going on. I'm now pretty sure.
This explains how someone who's sick with covid then dies when they get the vaccine... because it was a slightly different, non-targeted variant. And also how come tumors start to grow. And people die of other things, too.
So the causes of death in these cases are NEVER the vaccine — which is technically correct, because the immune system fails and then something else kicks in to kill the patient.
This accounts for so, so much of what we've been hearing. It may be fine for some. But if you have a systemic weakness or chronic condition that you might not even be aware of, then it could be more like Russian Roulette if your own immune system suddenly turns against you.
Tintin
10th March 2021, 22:21
Source: doctors4covidethics (https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/urgent-open-letter-from-doctors-and-scientists-to-the-european-medicines-agency-regarding-covid-19-f6e17c311595)
*Also now in the Avalon Library as a PDF (https://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_%28Wuhan_2019-nCov%29/Covid-19_Vaccines/Urgent_Open_Letter_from_Doctors_and_Scientists_to_the_European_Medicines_Agency_regarding_COVID_vacc ines%20-%20Doctors_For_Ethics_Feb_28_2021.pdf)
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Urgent Open Letter from Doctors and Scientists to the European Medicines Agency regarding COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Concerns
Doctors for Covid Ethics published March 10th, 2021
Emer Cooke, Executive Director, European Medicines Agency, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
28 February 2021
Dear Sirs/Mesdames,
FOR THE URGENT PERSONAL ATTENTION OF: EMER COOKE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE EUROPEAN MEDICINES AGENCY
As physicians and scientists, we are supportive in principle of the use of new medical interventions which are appropriately developed and deployed, having obtained informed consent from the patient. This stance encompasses vaccines in the same way as therapeutics.
We note that a wide range of side effects is being reported following vaccination of previously healthy younger individuals with the gene-based COVID-19 vaccines. Moreover, there have been numerous media reports from around the world of care homes being struck by COVID-19 within days of vaccination of residents. While we recognise that these occurrences might, every one of them, have been unfortunate coincidences, we are concerned that there has been and there continues to be inadequate scrutiny of the possible causes of illness or death under these circumstances, and especially so in the absence of post-mortems examinations.
In particular, we question whether cardinal issues regarding the safety of the vaccines were adequately addressed prior to their approval by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).
As a matter of great urgency, we herewith request that the EMA provide us with responses to the following issues:
1. Following intramuscular injection, it must be expected that the gene-based vaccines will reach the bloodstream and disseminate throughout the body [1]. We request evidence that this possibility was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
2. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that the vaccines will remain entrapped in the circulation and be taken up by endothelial cells. There is reason to assume that this will happen particularly at sites of slow blood flow, i.e. in small vessels and capillaries [2]. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
3. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that during expression of the vaccines’ nucleic acids, peptides derived from the spike protein will be presented via the MHC I — pathway at the luminal surface of the cells. Many healthy individuals have CD8-lymphocytes that recognize such peptides, which may be due to prior COVID infection, but also to cross-reactions with other types of Coronavirus [3; 4] [5]. We must assume that these lymphocytes will mount an attack on the respective cells. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
4. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that endothelial damage with subsequent triggering of blood coagulation via platelet activation will ensue at countless sites throughout the body. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
5. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that this will lead to a drop in platelet counts, appearance of D-dimers in the blood, and to myriad ischaemic lesions throughout the body including in the brain, spinal cord and heart. Bleeding disorders might occur in the wake of this novel type of DIC-syndrome including, amongst other possibilities, profuse bleedings and haemorrhagic stroke. We request evidence that all these possibilities were excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
6. The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor on platelets, which results in their activation [6]. Thrombocytopenia has been reported in severe cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection [7]. Thrombocytopenia has also been reported in vaccinated individuals [8]. We request evidence that the potential danger of platelet activation that would also lead to disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC) was excluded with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
7. The sweeping across the globe of SARS-CoV-2 created a pandemic of illness associated with many deaths. However, by the time of consideration for approval of the vaccines, the health systems of most countries were no longer under imminent threat of being overwhelmed because a growing proportion of the world had already been infected and the worst of the pandemic had already abated. Consequently, we demand conclusive evidence that an actual emergency existed at the time of the EMA granting Conditional Marketing Authorisation to the manufacturers of all three vaccines, to justify their approval for use in humans by the EMA, purportedly because of such an emergency.
Should all such evidence not be available, we demand that approval for use of the gene-based vaccines be withdrawn until all the above issues have been properly addressed by the exercise of due diligence by the EMA.
There are serious concerns, including but not confined to those outlined above, that the approval of the COVID-19 vaccines by the EMA was premature and reckless, and that the administration of the vaccines constituted and still does constitute “human experimentation”, which was and still is in violation of the Nuremberg Code.
In view of the urgency of the situation, we request that you reply to this email within seven days and address all our concerns substantively. Should you choose not to comply with this reasonable request, we will make this letter public.
This email is copied to:
Charles Michel, President of the Council of Europe
Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission.
Doctors and scientists can sign the open letter by emailing their name, qualifications, areas of expertise, country and any affiliations they would like to cite, to Doctors4CovidEthics@protonmail.com
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Yours faithfully,
Signatories:
Professsor Sucharit Bhakdi MD, Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, Former Chair, Institute of Medical Microbiology and Hygiene, Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Germany and Thailand)
Dr Marco Chiesa MD FRCPsych, Consultant Psychiatrist and Visiting Professor, University College London (Medical Doctor) (United Kingdom and Italy)
Dr C Stephen Frost BSc MBChB Specialist in Diagnostic Radiology, Stockholm, Sweden (Medical Doctor) (United Kingdom and Sweden)
Dr Margareta Griesz-Brisson MD PhD, Consultant Neurologist and Neurophysiologist (studied Medicine in Freiburg, Germany, speciality training for Neurology at New York University, Fellowship in Neurophysiology at Mount Sinai Medical Centre, New York City; PhD in Pharmacology with special interest in chronic low level neurotoxicology and effects of environmental factors on brain health), Medical Director, The London Neurology and Pain Clinic (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Germany and United Kingdom)
Professor Martin Haditsch MD PhD, Specialist (Austria) in Hygiene and Microbiology, Specialist (Germany) in Microbiology, Virology, Epidemiology/Infectious Diseases, Specialist (Austria) in Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine, Medical Director, TravelMedCenter, Leonding, Austria, Medical Director, Labor Hannover MVZ GmbH (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Austria and Germany)
Professor Stefan Hockertz, Professor of Toxicology and Pharmacologym, European registered Toxicologist, Specialist in Immunology and Immunotoxicology, CEO tpi consult GmbH. (Scientist) (Germany)
Dr Lissa Johnson, BSc BA(Media) MPsych(Clin) PhD, Clinical Psychologist and Behavioural Psychologist, Expertise in the social psychology of torture, atrocity, collective violence and fear propaganda, Former member Australian Psychological Society Public Interest Advisory Group (Clinical Psychologist and Behavioural Scientist) (Australia)
Professor Ulrike Kämmerer PhD, Associate Professor of Experimental Reproductive Immunology and Tumor Biology at the Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, University Hospital of Würzburg, Germany, Trained molecular virologist (Diploma, PhD-Thesis) and Immunologist (Habilitation), Remains engaged in active laboratory research (Molecular Biology, Cell Biology (Scientist) (Germany)
Associate Professor Michael Palmer MD, Department of Chemistry (studied Medicine and Medical Microbiology in Germany, has taught Biochemistry since 2001 in present university in Canada; focus on Pharmacology, metabolism, biological membranes, computer programming; experimental research focus on bacterial toxins and antibiotics (Daptomycin); has written a textbook on Biochemical Pharmacology, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Canada and Germany)
Professor Karina Reiss PhD, Professor of Biochemistry, Christian Albrecht University of Kiel, Expertise in Cell Biology, Biochemistry (Scientist) (Germany)
Professor Andreas Sönnichsen MD, Professor of General Practice and Family Medicine, Department of General Practice and Family Medicine, Center of Public Health, Medical University of Vienna, Vienna (Medical Doctor) (Austria)
Dr Michael Yeadon BSc (Joint Honours in Biochemistry and Toxicology) PhD (Pharmacology), Formerly Vice President & Chief Scientific Officer Allergy & Respiratory, Pfizer Global R&D; Co-founder & CEO, Ziarco Pharma Ltd.; Independent Consultant (Scientist) (United Kingdom)
happyuk
10th March 2021, 22:36
As stated by no less than the UK government, these gene-editing injections:
contain no covid like real vaccines
do not give you covid like real vaccines
do not stop you catching covid like real vaccines
do not stop you spreading covid like real vaccines
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An "expectation" is no guarantee.
Old Student
10th March 2021, 23:17
This accounts for so, so much of what we've been hearing. It may be fine for some. But if you have a systemic weakness or chronic condition that you might not even be aware of, then it could be more like Russian Roulette if your own immune system suddenly turns against you.
Not sure about other countries, but in the U.S., people who are immunocompromised are supposed to consult with whichever doctor is treating their compromise. So that's already what people are supposed to do. As for people somehow discovering that they are immunocompromised at the time they receive the vaccine, they would have to have certain cancers or diseases (leukemia, HIV) for that to occur, and should consult with a doctor anyway, and they probably do not feel well right now. The vaccine sites screen for people who do not feel well right now, and the screening is being done by MDs.
So I have trouble believing that people worrying about having this problem are going to be completely surprised and completely surprise the system.
Elainie
10th March 2021, 23:31
I think we can all agree vaccines isn't a one shot fits all, were all different, I just spoke with a friend of mine who his buddy caught covid at the beginning of this year, 68 years old, he never got rid of the cough ,he was one of the long haulers, he went into the store early this week and took the vaccine, He died that night this week. Another person I know is a lab tech at a hospital, this person said they would quit there job before getting the shot. I had heard that the vaccine is exacerbating growth in existing tumors. Guess the experiment will just have to take its course for the human case study.I didn't realize that post was so shocking until I got half way through. Jeez. People are getting killed by this thing.
Not everyone — of course. But some, for sure. The facts and reports are all right there. :flower:
Taking the vaccine might be fine for you. As long as your immune system doesn't fail.
Considering all the available evidence (which is sporadic and often anecdotal), it seems to me that the principal hypothesis is EXACTLY what I said in this post of mine 3 hours ago (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114271-Top-vaccine-developer-Dr-Geert-Vanden-Bossche-warns-against-vaccine-rollout&p=1415467&viewfull=1#post1415467) on the important new Geert Vanden Bossche thread. It's all starting to come into focus.
Top vaccine developer Dr Geert Vanden Bossche warns against vaccine rollout (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114271-Top-vaccine-developer-Dr-Geert-Vanden-Bossche-warns-against-vaccine-rollout)
The vaccine (assuming they all work similarly) is very specifically targeted, like a kind of DNA hack. (Software hacks need to be precisely written and focused, too.)
It does one specific thing. But the side-effect of that is that the immune system is weakened when it has to deal with anything else.
This is what's going on. I'm now pretty sure.
This explains how someone who's sick with covid then dies when they get the vaccine... because it was a slightly different, non-targeted variant. And also how come tumors start to grow. And people die of other things, too.
So the causes of death in these cases are NEVER the vaccine — which is technically correct, because the immune system fails and then something else kicks in to kill the patient.
This accounts for so, so much of what we've been hearing. It may be fine for some. But if you have a systemic weakness or chronic condition that you might not even be aware of, then it could be more like Russian Roulette if your own immune system suddenly turns against you.
Bill, my daughter is a healthcare worker, now working hospice. The head RN and her are documenting the deaths they are seeing daily due to the vaccines. It's very difficult for her to watch, elderly who were fine prior, spouses grieving after being married 60, 70 plus years! Head RN wants to write a book and expose it all.
System is bankrupt in debt, they need to kill of senior citizens, truly the most diabolical plan from the above Vatican level puppet masters.
Constance
11th March 2021, 00:45
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Gwin Ru
11th March 2021, 13:24
...
... in consolidation of Bill's insight, above:
AstraZeneca Slides As Denmark Suspends Vaccinations On Blood-Clot Fears (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/astrazeneca-slides-denmark-suspends-vaccinations-blood-clot-fears)
by Tyler Durden
Thursday, Mar 11, 2021 - 6:31
Europe's much-criticized vaccination rollout has just hit another snag, as Danish health authorities are increasingly concerned about harmful side-effects believed to be associated with the AstraZeneca-Oxford jab, the cheap COVID remedy that was supposed to help Europe catch up with the US, UK and Israel.
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Danish authorities on Thursday temporarily suspended AstraZeneca's COVID-19 shot following reports of cases of dangerous blood clots forming inside patients, including one such incident that took place in Denmark. Authorities didn't specify exactly how many reports of blood clots there had been, but Reuters reports that Austria has also stopped using a batch of AstraZeneca shots while investigating a death attributed to coagulation disorders, along with an illness attributed ot a pulmonary embolism, a condition where one or more of the lung's arteries becomes blocked by a blood clot. Six other European countries have also reportedly halted distribution of the COVID jab.
"Both we and the Danish Medicines Agency have to respond to reports of possible serious side-effects, both from Denmark and other European countries," the director of the Danish Health Authority, Soren Brostrom, said in a statement.
The Danish Medicines Agency said the suspension would last for 14 days as authorities launch an investigation into the blood clots, with assistance from other EU member states.
They did not say how many reports of blood clots there had been, but Austria has stopped using a batch of AstraZeneca shots while investigating a death from coagulation disorders and an illness from a pulmonary embolism.
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Full article: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/astrazeneca-slides-denmark-suspends-vaccinations-blood-clot-fears
Zirconian
12th March 2021, 17:26
I want to thank all contributors on all vaccine threads who are sharing vital information about the C19 vaccines.
After careful consideration, I've decided to post this.
In a previous post, I decided to share what I could personally feel from people who had the vaccine.
To explain, I can feel, amongst other things, the human energy fields of people around me, if I focus on it.
I work in healthcare and in January, I began to be overwhelmed by an EMF vibration and a feeling of thick (glue like) dark energy emitting off people, who I eventually realised had been injected with the vaccine.
This prompted me to explore what alternative information was being shared about the vaccine (and I have read many posts on PA), there is much truth to be found on this site and I also decided to intuit into the energy being emitted from people who have had the vaccine.
The vaccine to me, is multi factoral and multi dimensional and it is very dark on all those levels. This vaccine is cleverly designed to down our spiritual self as well as our physical self.
I am totally astonished by it all and it has taken me a long while to come to terms with all the aspects of this vaccine and by that, I know that we have tough times ahead. I also know, at this moment in time, as this scenario seems to be playing out, it will have the potential to hurt our hearts.
Avoid the vaccine at all costs and I mean at all costs.
Stand at the back of the queue.
I've stated to my employer that I have allergies and I'm waiting for more safety data before I'll take it and then I've just kept my head down and even lied when asked by colleagues with authority if I've taken it. (I don't like lying, it makes me feel uncomfortable within but you do what you have to when faced with such darkness).
Some solutions to help for when you eventually come into contact with many people emitting and shedding this stuff;
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113650-Holistic-Tools-and-Solutions-for-Right-Now&p=1415810&viewfull=1#post1415810
I'm also looking into sulphur.
The only solution to fully protect you right now is avoidance.
We have some tough times ahead. I've resolved to be steadfast and draw on that which has been shown to be spiritual truth to me.
As has been mentioned in other posts, it maybe beneficial at this time, to reach out and form groups of like minded people who can work together for strength and solutions.
This could be a rough roller coaster ride. It seems, at this moment, it will play out this way. The only reason as to why, I can feel is, the mass wake up.
It's always the darkest before the dawn.
Tintin
13th March 2021, 10:15
Source: doctors4covidethics (https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/urgent-open-letter-from-doctors-and-scientists-to-the-european-medicines-agency-regarding-covid-19-f6e17c311595)
*Also now in the Avalon Library as a PDF (https://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_%28Wuhan_2019-nCov%29/Covid-19_Vaccines/Urgent_Open_Letter_from_Doctors_and_Scientists_to_the_European_Medicines_Agency_regarding_COVID_vacc ines%20-%20Doctors_For_Ethics_Feb_28_2021.pdf)
_________________________
Urgent Open Letter from Doctors and Scientists to the European Medicines Agency regarding COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Concerns
Doctors for Covid Ethics published March 10th, 2021
Emer Cooke, Executive Director, European Medicines Agency, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
28 February 2021
Dear Sirs/Mesdames,
FOR THE URGENT PERSONAL ATTENTION OF: EMER COOKE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE EUROPEAN MEDICINES AGENCY
As physicians and scientists, we are supportive in principle of the use of new medical interventions which are appropriately developed and deployed, having obtained informed consent from the patient. This stance encompasses vaccines in the same way as therapeutics.
We note that a wide range of side effects is being reported following vaccination of previously healthy younger individuals with the gene-based COVID-19 vaccines. Moreover, there have been numerous media reports from around the world of care homes being struck by COVID-19 within days of vaccination of residents. While we recognise that these occurrences might, every one of them, have been unfortunate coincidences, we are concerned that there has been and there continues to be inadequate scrutiny of the possible causes of illness or death under these circumstances, and especially so in the absence of post-mortems examinations.
In particular, we question whether cardinal issues regarding the safety of the vaccines were adequately addressed prior to their approval by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).
As a matter of great urgency, we herewith request that the EMA provide us with responses to the following issues:
1. Following intramuscular injection, it must be expected that the gene-based vaccines will reach the bloodstream and disseminate throughout the body [1]. We request evidence that this possibility was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
2. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that the vaccines will remain entrapped in the circulation and be taken up by endothelial cells. There is reason to assume that this will happen particularly at sites of slow blood flow, i.e. in small vessels and capillaries [2]. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
3. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that during expression of the vaccines’ nucleic acids, peptides derived from the spike protein will be presented via the MHC I — pathway at the luminal surface of the cells. Many healthy individuals have CD8-lymphocytes that recognize such peptides, which may be due to prior COVID infection, but also to cross-reactions with other types of Coronavirus [3; 4] [5]. We must assume that these lymphocytes will mount an attack on the respective cells. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
4. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that endothelial damage with subsequent triggering of blood coagulation via platelet activation will ensue at countless sites throughout the body. We request evidence that this probability was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
5. If such evidence is not available, it must be expected that this will lead to a drop in platelet counts, appearance of D-dimers in the blood, and to myriad ischaemic lesions throughout the body including in the brain, spinal cord and heart. Bleeding disorders might occur in the wake of this novel type of DIC-syndrome including, amongst other possibilities, profuse bleedings and haemorrhagic stroke. We request evidence that all these possibilities were excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
6. The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor on platelets, which results in their activation [6]. Thrombocytopenia has been reported in severe cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection [7]. Thrombocytopenia has also been reported in vaccinated individuals [8]. We request evidence that the potential danger of platelet activation that would also lead to disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC) was excluded with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.
7. The sweeping across the globe of SARS-CoV-2 created a pandemic of illness associated with many deaths. However, by the time of consideration for approval of the vaccines, the health systems of most countries were no longer under imminent threat of being overwhelmed because a growing proportion of the world had already been infected and the worst of the pandemic had already abated. Consequently, we demand conclusive evidence that an actual emergency existed at the time of the EMA granting Conditional Marketing Authorisation to the manufacturers of all three vaccines, to justify their approval for use in humans by the EMA, purportedly because of such an emergency.
Should all such evidence not be available, we demand that approval for use of the gene-based vaccines be withdrawn until all the above issues have been properly addressed by the exercise of due diligence by the EMA.
There are serious concerns, including but not confined to those outlined above, that the approval of the COVID-19 vaccines by the EMA was premature and reckless, and that the administration of the vaccines constituted and still does constitute “human experimentation”, which was and still is in violation of the Nuremberg Code.
In view of the urgency of the situation, we request that you reply to this email within seven days and address all our concerns substantively. Should you choose not to comply with this reasonable request, we will make this letter public.
This email is copied to:
Charles Michel, President of the Council of Europe
Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission.
Doctors and scientists can sign the open letter by emailing their name, qualifications, areas of expertise, country and any affiliations they would like to cite, to Doctors4CovidEthics@protonmail.com
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REFERENCES
[1] Hassett, K. J.; Benenato, K. E.; Jacquinet, E.; Lee, A.; Woods, A.; Yuzhakov, O.; Himansu, S.; Deterling, J.; Geilich, B. M.; Ketova, T.; Mihai, C.; Lynn, A.; McFadyen, I.; Moore, M. J.; Senn, J. J.; Stanton, M. G.; Almarsson, Ö.; Ciaramella, G. and Brito, L. A.(2019).Optimization of Lipid Nanoparticles for Intramuscular Administration of mRNA Vaccines, Molecular therapy. Nucleic acids 15 : 1–11.
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[4] Nelde, A.; Bilich, T.; Heitmann, J. S.; Maringer, Y.; Salih, H. R.; Roerden, M.; Lübke, M.; Bauer, J.; Rieth, J.; Wacker, M.; Peter, A.; Hörber, S.; Traenkle, B.; Kaiser, P. D.; Rothbauer, U.; Becker, M.; Junker, D.; Krause, G.; Strengert, M.; Schneiderhan-Marra, N.; Templin, M. F.; Joos, T. O.; Kowalewski, D. J.; Stos-Zweifel, V.; Fehr, M.; Rabsteyn, A.; Mirakaj, V.; Karbach, J.; Jäger, E.; Graf, M.; Gruber, L.-C.; Rachfalski, D.; Preuß, B.; Hagelstein, I.; Märklin, M.; Bakchoul, T.; Gouttefangeas, C.; Kohlbacher, O.; Klein, R.; Stevanović, S.; Rammensee, H.-G. and Walz, J. S.(2020). SARS-CoV-2-derived peptides define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T cell recognition, Nature immunology.
[5] Sekine, T.; Perez-Potti, A.; Rivera-Ballesteros, O.; Strålin, K.; Gorin, J.-B.; Olsson, A.; Llewellyn-Lacey, S.; Kamal, H.; Bogdanovic, G.; Muschiol, S. and et al.(2020). Robust T Cell Immunity in Convalescent Individuals with Asymptomatic or Mild COVID-19, Cell 183 : 158–168.e14.
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[7] Lippi, G.; Plebani, M. and Henry, B. M.(2020).Thrombocytopenia is associated with severe coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infections: A meta-analysis, Clin. Chim. Acta 506 : 145–148.
[8] Grady, D. (2021). A Few Covid Vaccine Recipients Developed a Rare Blood Disorder, The New York Times, Feb. 8, 2021.
Yours faithfully,
Signatories:
Professsor Sucharit Bhakdi MD, Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, Former Chair, Institute of Medical Microbiology and Hygiene, Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Germany and Thailand)
Dr Marco Chiesa MD FRCPsych, Consultant Psychiatrist and Visiting Professor, University College London (Medical Doctor) (United Kingdom and Italy)
Dr C Stephen Frost BSc MBChB Specialist in Diagnostic Radiology, Stockholm, Sweden (Medical Doctor) (United Kingdom and Sweden)
Dr Margareta Griesz-Brisson MD PhD, Consultant Neurologist and Neurophysiologist (studied Medicine in Freiburg, Germany, speciality training for Neurology at New York University, Fellowship in Neurophysiology at Mount Sinai Medical Centre, New York City; PhD in Pharmacology with special interest in chronic low level neurotoxicology and effects of environmental factors on brain health), Medical Director, The London Neurology and Pain Clinic (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Germany and United Kingdom)
Professor Martin Haditsch MD PhD, Specialist (Austria) in Hygiene and Microbiology, Specialist (Germany) in Microbiology, Virology, Epidemiology/Infectious Diseases, Specialist (Austria) in Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine, Medical Director, TravelMedCenter, Leonding, Austria, Medical Director, Labor Hannover MVZ GmbH (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Austria and Germany)
Professor Stefan Hockertz, Professor of Toxicology and Pharmacologym, European registered Toxicologist, Specialist in Immunology and Immunotoxicology, CEO tpi consult GmbH. (Scientist) (Germany)
Dr Lissa Johnson, BSc BA(Media) MPsych(Clin) PhD, Clinical Psychologist and Behavioural Psychologist, Expertise in the social psychology of torture, atrocity, collective violence and fear propaganda, Former member Australian Psychological Society Public Interest Advisory Group (Clinical Psychologist and Behavioural Scientist) (Australia)
Professor Ulrike Kämmerer PhD, Associate Professor of Experimental Reproductive Immunology and Tumor Biology at the Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, University Hospital of Würzburg, Germany, Trained molecular virologist (Diploma, PhD-Thesis) and Immunologist (Habilitation), Remains engaged in active laboratory research (Molecular Biology, Cell Biology (Scientist) (Germany)
Associate Professor Michael Palmer MD, Department of Chemistry (studied Medicine and Medical Microbiology in Germany, has taught Biochemistry since 2001 in present university in Canada; focus on Pharmacology, metabolism, biological membranes, computer programming; experimental research focus on bacterial toxins and antibiotics (Daptomycin); has written a textbook on Biochemical Pharmacology, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Canada and Germany)
Professor Karina Reiss PhD, Professor of Biochemistry, Christian Albrecht University of Kiel, Expertise in Cell Biology, Biochemistry (Scientist) (Germany)
Professor Andreas Sönnichsen MD, Professor of General Practice and Family Medicine, Department of General Practice and Family Medicine, Center of Public Health, Medical University of Vienna, Vienna (Medical Doctor) (Austria)
Dr Michael Yeadon BSc (Joint Honours in Biochemistry and Toxicology) PhD (Pharmacology), Formerly Vice President & Chief Scientific Officer Allergy & Respiratory, Pfizer Global R&D; Co-founder & CEO, Ziarco Pharma Ltd.; Independent Consultant (Scientist) (United Kingdom)
Here's the important spoken video statement from Professor Sucharit Bhakdi now in the library (https://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_%28Wuhan_2019-nCov%29/Covid-19_Vaccines/Prof_Sucharit_Bhakdi_statement_on_EMA_open_letter_March_2021.mp4)
https://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_%28Wuhan_2019-nCov%29/Covid-19_Vaccines/Prof_Sucharit_Bhakdi_statement_on_EMA_open_letter_March_2021.mp4
Delight
13th March 2021, 14:35
I feel for healthcare workers.
Open Letter to Nursing and Midwifery Council, Royal College of Nursing and others re coercion of nurses to accept a Covid-19 vaccine and nursing culture silencing concerns
12/03/21 (https://www.ukmedfreedom.org/open-letters/open-letter-to-nursing-and-midwifery-council-royal-college-of-nurses-and-others-re-coercion-of-nurses-to-accept-a-covid-19-vaccine-and-nursing-culture-silencing-concerns)
UKMFA, Lawyers for Liberty and Workers Union of England have sent an Open Letter in response to reports from nursing staff of pressure and coercion being applied by bosses and peers to accept a Covid-19 vaccine.
We also raise concerns about the development of a culture within nursing, discouraging nurses to come forward to report potential issues which challenge the official Government and NHS narrative and polices.
PDF here....
Open Letter to Nursing and Midwifery Council, Royal College of Nursing and others re coercion of nurses to accept a Covid-19 vaccine and nursing culture silencing concerns
12/03/21 (https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://files.elfsight.com/storage/4e30ad35-01e4-4f36-9ae6-ef186b77e34b/519b8163-29d0-4fe9-b358-0318784ab922.pdf)
pyrangello
13th March 2021, 16:42
So here's some more tidbits to chew on, a person I know who works as a hospital lab tech and examines every patients blood is starting to see a very stark pattern of individuals who have gotten the vivid vaccine. Prior to this statement being made to me I had heard that this vaccine exacerbated existing tumor growth which is only what I had heard but I did read of reactions of people breakijng out with superficial legions or rashes. Well guess what now. This lab tech told me that people are now coming in with issues that have had the vaccine and are being diagnosed with lesion growths on their liver. This lab tech told me that they will quit their job if they have to get this vaccine ,that's how alarmed this individual is. And this person gets paid very well.
jaybee
13th March 2021, 18:34
I haven't seen it anywhere but do we know how many nano particles are injected into the body for the vaccine..?
Millions - billions - trillions - + + + ?
this from a mainstream link about nanotechnology -
https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/01/how-nanotechnology-helps-mrna-covid19-vaccines-work/
Lipid nanoparticles are the fatty molecular envelopes that help strands of mRNA — the genetic messenger for making DNA code into proteins — evade the body’s biological gatekeepers and reach their target cell without being degraded.
They are using the lipid nanoparticles to sneak/force the protein code into the cells of the body - evading the 'body's biological gatekeepers'....
I presume under normal circumstances the body would do everything it could to remove the foreign body but the nano tech prevents this - (in theory - until the anti bodies get to work?)
There's this vague description presented in videos about how the vaccines are supposed to work and how the mRNA genetic code message to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is delivered to the cells - that then makes the spike protein in the cell stimulating the immune system... but how many messages get into a cell.... do a few million/billion nano particles cluster in one part of the body?...or even in one cell - :/
Does one get in and then the cell neatly closes up and say's 'no more thank you' .....
Just trying to visualize the reality of what happens...
And what the previous post said about lesions on the liver - if blood is being used to transport trillions? (+?) of the the nano particles around the body and one of the main functions of the liver is to clean the blood - it would make sense that there could be problems for the liver -
Matthew
13th March 2021, 19:59
Pulls on the heartstrings
Covid: Judge rules man with learning difficulties should be vaccinated
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-56379383
A man with severe learning difficulties should have a Covid-19 vaccine, despite his family's objections, a judge ruled.
Specialists said the man, who is in his 30s, was "clinically vulnerable" and in a "priority group" for vaccination.
But the man's parents objected and raised a number of concerns about alleged side-effects.
Judge Jonathan Butler agreed with NHS Tameside & Glossop Clinical Commissioning Group that vaccination was in his best interests.
...
jaybee
13th March 2021, 20:20
Pulls on the heartstrings
Covid: Judge rules man with learning difficulties should be vaccinated
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-56379383
A man with severe learning difficulties should have a Covid-19 vaccine, despite his family's objections, a judge ruled.
Specialists said the man, who is in his 30s, was "clinically vulnerable" and in a "priority group" for vaccination.
But the man's parents objected and raised a number of concerns about alleged side-effects.
Judge Jonathan Butler agreed with NHS Tameside & Glossop Clinical Commissioning Group that vaccination was in his best interests.
...
This sentence from the article is strange---
He said the man was vulnerable and said there was "overwhelming objective evidence of the magnetic advantage of a vaccination".
what on earth is 'magnetic advantage'.... supposed to be -
the judge claims there is 'overwhelming objective evidence' of it - whatever it is... :unsure:
happyuk
14th March 2021, 00:00
I want to thank all contributors on all vaccine threads who are sharing vital information about the C19 vaccines.
After careful consideration, I've decided to post this.
In a previous post, I decided to share what I could personally feel from people who had the vaccine.
To explain, I can feel, amongst other things, the human energy fields of people around me, if I focus on it.
I work in healthcare and in January, I began to be overwhelmed by an EMF vibration and a feeling of thick (glue like) dark energy emitting off people, who I eventually realised had been injected with the vaccine.
This prompted me to explore what alternative information was being shared about the vaccine (and I have read many posts on PA), there is much truth to be found on this site and I also decided to intuit into the energy being emitted from people who have had the vaccine.
The vaccine to me, is multi factoral and multi dimensional and it is very dark on all those levels. This vaccine is cleverly designed to down our spiritual self as well as our physical self.
I am totally astonished by it all and it has taken me a long while to come to terms with all the aspects of this vaccine and by that, I know that we have tough times ahead. I also know, at this moment in time, as this scenario seems to be playing out, it will have the potential to hurt our hearts.
Avoid the vaccine at all costs and I mean at all costs.
Stand at the back of the queue.
I've stated to my employer that I have allergies and I'm waiting for more safety data before I'll take it and then I've just kept my head down and even lied when asked by colleagues with authority if I've taken it. (I don't like lying, it makes me feel uncomfortable within but you do what you have to when faced with such darkness).
Some solutions to help for when you eventually come into contact with many people emitting and shedding this stuff;
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113650-Holistic-Tools-and-Solutions-for-Right-Now&p=1415810&viewfull=1#post1415810
I'm also looking into sulphur.
The only solution to fully protect you right now is avoidance.
We have some tough times ahead. I've resolved to be steadfast and draw on that which has been shown to be spiritual truth to me.
As has been mentioned in other posts, it maybe beneficial at this time, to reach out and form groups of like minded people who can work together for strength and solutions.
This could be a rough roller coaster ride. It seems, at this moment, it will play out this way. The only reason as to why, I can feel is, the mass wake up.
It's always the darkest before the dawn.
Stick to your guns Zirconian, you will get there.
Yes, peer pressure is a powerful thing.
It's a shame that taking the vaccine is seen as an act of virtue rather than personal medical health decision.
I wouldn't beat yourself up about your situation with colleagues - 'All's fair in love and war' after all.
Vangelo
14th March 2021, 02:03
Covid Vaccine Deaths In Israel
3 min video that summarizes results of a study from Israel vaccine data post vaccine.
Frightening statistics...
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/covid-vaccine-deaths-in-israel_Oo2FC1NdE4qkU8T.html?fbclid=IwAR2gnKGJs49xJ60q1hShnLizgTpsm-zamVEBdpNS-uJfjgV6_-OeR4YIJYA
(Moderators please feel free to delete if it this has already been posted)
Zirconian
14th March 2021, 11:48
I want to thank all contributors on all vaccine threads who are sharing vital information about the C19 vaccines.
After careful consideration, I've decided to post this.
In a previous post, I decided to share what I could personally feel from people who had the vaccine.
To explain, I can feel, amongst other things, the human energy fields of people around me, if I focus on it.
I work in healthcare and in January, I began to be overwhelmed by an EMF vibration and a feeling of thick (glue like) dark energy emitting off people, who I eventually realised had been injected with the vaccine.
This prompted me to explore what alternative information was being shared about the vaccine (and I have read many posts on PA), there is much truth to be found on this site and I also decided to intuit into the energy being emitted from people who have had the vaccine.
The vaccine to me, is multi factoral and multi dimensional and it is very dark on all those levels. This vaccine is cleverly designed to down our spiritual self as well as our physical self.
I am totally astonished by it all and it has taken me a long while to come to terms with all the aspects of this vaccine and by that, I know that we have tough times ahead. I also know, at this moment in time, as this scenario seems to be playing out, it will have the potential to hurt our hearts.
Avoid the vaccine at all costs and I mean at all costs.
Stand at the back of the queue.
I've stated to my employer that I have allergies and I'm waiting for more safety data before I'll take it and then I've just kept my head down and even lied when asked by colleagues with authority if I've taken it. (I don't like lying, it makes me feel uncomfortable within but you do what you have to when faced with such darkness).
Some solutions to help for when you eventually come into contact with many people emitting and shedding this stuff;
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113650-Holistic-Tools-and-Solutions-for-Right-Now&p=1415810&viewfull=1#post1415810
I'm also looking into sulphur.
The only solution to fully protect you right now is avoidance.
We have some tough times ahead. I've resolved to be steadfast and draw on that which has been shown to be spiritual truth to me.
As has been mentioned in other posts, it maybe beneficial at this time, to reach out and form groups of like minded people who can work together for strength and solutions.
This could be a rough roller coaster ride. It seems, at this moment, it will play out this way. The only reason as to why, I can feel is, the mass wake up.
It's always the darkest before the dawn.
Stick to your guns Zirconian, you will get there.
Yes, peer pressure is a powerful thing.
It's a shame that taking the vaccine is seen as an act of virtue rather than personal medical health decision.
I wouldn't beat yourself up about your situation with colleagues - 'All's fair in love and war' after all.
Thank you for your words happyuk.
I'm as steadfast and resolute as I can be, though the depth and breadth of the darkness inherent in this vaccine has taken my breath away.
It is a time when pure innocence may not be in your best interest or that of others. See Constance's thread and post re Sadguru
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114253-Vaccine-Crimes&p=1416062&viewfull=1#post1416062
I focus on the spiritual as my reading of this vaccine relates somewhat to this
http://fortruehumanity.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/steiner2.jpg
For me, this vaccine will affect our consciousness not only in life but after death which is why I will be resolute and steadfast in my refusal to take it but this stance may not be easy depending what timeline plays out.
I'm resolved in my responses to whatever timeline plays out and that is to keep my spiritual connection and I'm always aligned with the positive. This is not over yet, though there could be many hurt with this, as it is playing out at the moment.
Trisher
14th March 2021, 13:30
I feel great sadness Zirconian as I can only agree with your comments that this is a battle for our very souls. It is deep and evil. A high vibration and keeping a vision of a perfect earth and following it with heartfelt gratitude will go a long way towards balancing out this encroaching "Lord of the Rings" scenario where the light and the good, despite all attempts by darkness, did win in the end.
happyuk
14th March 2021, 15:30
I want to thank all contributors on all vaccine threads who are sharing vital information about the C19 vaccines.
After careful consideration, I've decided to post this.
In a previous post, I decided to share what I could personally feel from people who had the vaccine.
To explain, I can feel, amongst other things, the human energy fields of people around me, if I focus on it.
I work in healthcare and in January, I began to be overwhelmed by an EMF vibration and a feeling of thick (glue like) dark energy emitting off people, who I eventually realised had been injected with the vaccine.
This prompted me to explore what alternative information was being shared about the vaccine (and I have read many posts on PA), there is much truth to be found on this site and I also decided to intuit into the energy being emitted from people who have had the vaccine.
The vaccine to me, is multi factoral and multi dimensional and it is very dark on all those levels. This vaccine is cleverly designed to down our spiritual self as well as our physical self.
I am totally astonished by it all and it has taken me a long while to come to terms with all the aspects of this vaccine and by that, I know that we have tough times ahead. I also know, at this moment in time, as this scenario seems to be playing out, it will have the potential to hurt our hearts.
Avoid the vaccine at all costs and I mean at all costs.
Stand at the back of the queue.
I've stated to my employer that I have allergies and I'm waiting for more safety data before I'll take it and then I've just kept my head down and even lied when asked by colleagues with authority if I've taken it. (I don't like lying, it makes me feel uncomfortable within but you do what you have to when faced with such darkness).
Some solutions to help for when you eventually come into contact with many people emitting and shedding this stuff;
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113650-Holistic-Tools-and-Solutions-for-Right-Now&p=1415810&viewfull=1#post1415810
I'm also looking into sulphur.
The only solution to fully protect you right now is avoidance.
We have some tough times ahead. I've resolved to be steadfast and draw on that which has been shown to be spiritual truth to me.
As has been mentioned in other posts, it maybe beneficial at this time, to reach out and form groups of like minded people who can work together for strength and solutions.
This could be a rough roller coaster ride. It seems, at this moment, it will play out this way. The only reason as to why, I can feel is, the mass wake up.
It's always the darkest before the dawn.
Stick to your guns Zirconian, you will get there.
Yes, peer pressure is a powerful thing.
It's a shame that taking the vaccine is seen as an act of virtue rather than personal medical health decision.
I wouldn't beat yourself up about your situation with colleagues - 'All's fair in love and war' after all.
Thank you for your words happyuk.
I'm as steadfast and resolute as I can be, though the depth and breadth of the darkness inherent in this vaccine has taken my breath away.
It is a time when pure innocence may not be in your best interest or that of others. See Constance's thread and post re Sadguru
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114253-Vaccine-Crimes&p=1416062&viewfull=1#post1416062
I focus on the spiritual as my reading of this vaccine relates somewhat to this
http://fortruehumanity.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/steiner2.jpg
For me, this vaccine will affect our consciousness not only in life but after death which is why I will be resolute and steadfast in my refusal to take it but this stance may not be easy depending what timeline plays out.
I'm resolved in my responses to whatever timeline plays out and that is to keep my spiritual connection and I'm always aligned with the positive. This is not over yet, though there could be many hurt with this, as it is playing out at the moment.
Agreed. I am in a similar kind of boat in being a voice in the wilderness where vaccines are concerned: many close family, work colleagues and acquaintances of mine are all singing from the same hymn sheet and falling over themselves to get vaccinated.
Another good tactic is to appear as confused and out of one's depth by it all, while all the time remaining utterly resolute.
For me to say "I've been vaccinated" would not strictly be a lie, unless they probed further and asked when that last was (1982 lol).
My ancestors were Rosicrucians and in the early 20th century actually went to court to become exempt from the vaccination programs that were going on then. They all lived long, vigorous and active lives without the need for chemical assistance and I am more than happy to continue from where they left.
Their concern and that of Rosicrucians was (and still is) the effect of vaccination from more subtle, spiritual occult points of view.
From the occult viewpoint vaccination and the use of antitoxin obtained by the processes in use in bacteriological institutes is to be deplored. These methods work a wrong on the helpless animals and poison the human body. If we study our food and herbs we shall find that nature has provided all necessary medicine, and if we eat and live right we can be immune from disease without vaccination.
A quote from Max Heindel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Heindel):
When in normal health the body specializes a far greater quantity of the solar energy than it can use. The surplus is radiated from the whole surface of the body with great force and prevents the entrance of microorganisms which lack the strength to battle against this outwelling current, nay, more! on the same principle than an exhaust fan will gather up particles of dust in a room and hurl them outward does this vital fluid cleanse the body of inimical matter, dangerous germs included. It must not surprise us that this force is intelligent and capable of selecting the materials which should be eliminated, leaving the beneficial and useful. Scientists recognize this fact of selective osmosis. They know that while a sieve will allow any particle of matter to pass through which is smaller than the mesh of the sieve, the kidneys, for instance, will keep certain fluids of use to the body, while allowing waste products to pass. In a similar manner the vital fluid makes a distinction, it rids the body of the poisons and impurities generated inside and repels similar products from without.
This emanation has been called N-rays, or Odic fluid, by scientists who have discovered it by means of chemical reagents which render it luminous. During the process of digestion it is weakest, for then an extra quantity of the solar energy is required for use inside the body in the metabolism of the food; it is the cementing factor in assimilation. The heartier we have eaten, the greater is the quantity of vital fluid expended within the body and the weaker the eliminative and protective outrushing current. Consequently we are in the greatest danger from an invasion by an army of inimical microorganisms when we have gorged ourselves.
On the other hand, if we eat sparingly and choose the foods which are most easily digestible, the diminution of the protective vital current will be correspondingly minimized and our immunity from disease will be much enhanced without the necessity of poisoning our body with vaccine.
Trisher
15th March 2021, 09:49
A stark warning from Tony Pantelleresco about the vax and its effects if you take it.
His message is stay well away. He talks about different age groups and different immune systems. Scroll down for the podcast at the end.
https://independz.podbean.com/e/tonys-show-3152021/
avid
15th March 2021, 15:46
Invaluable data from UK, tardy publishing by government, but shocking facts....
Truthful rationales about immune system fine tuning at different ages, not being addressed by medical profession, dosages not appropriate, therefore folks’ lives and health being trashed. Psychopaths are running this fiasco.
https://ukcolumn.org/article/no-smoke-without-fire-part-2-t-cell-training-and-covid-19-vaccines (https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/no-smoke-without-fire-part-2-t-cell-training-and-covid-19-vaccines)
(Tried to correct spelling of appropriate and all went black!!! Apologies :o
Discovered a gab inclusion messed it up..., not me...)
Rizotto
16th March 2021, 07:46
Taking the flu vaccine may worsen coronavirus infections?
Hello to everyone, this is my first post here. I discovered the amazing Project Avalon forum by chance, when searching for info about covid. I have a specific question about vaccines further below, but first I’d like to tell you a little about where I come from.
I live in a small town in northern Canada, surrounded by vast stretches of boreal forest, lakes and rivers. It may sound idyllic, and as I am retired, I thought I would have more time to enjoy the great outdoors. Then the scamdemic happened, and I’ve since been spending huge amounts of time online researching and trying to figure out what’s going on. One thing is for certain: I will not take the covid vaccine.
Many people here are very concerned about coercion to take the covid vaccine which is currently being rolled out. No one has died of covid here, none were critically ill with it, the few ‘cases’ have all ‘recovered at home’ months ago. We don’t even have anyone sick with covid at this time. However, there is intense pressure in taking the vaccine, or else our ‘dear leaders’ won’t remove the mask mandate and all kinds of other restrictions that have harmed many people and businesses, such as increased rates of overdoses, suicides, depression, businesses gone forever. It’s sad and absurd.
Beginning in September 2020, there was a huge government campaign to take the FLU vaccine. Their rationale was that the flu and covid have similar symptoms, so it would be helpful to reduce flu infections before the anticipated ‘second wave’ of covid came in the winter.
At that time I also became aware of medical research that concluded that taking a flu vaccine may worsen coronavirus infections. Here are two examples:
“Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine” dated March 2012, at this link:
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/54/12/1778/455098
Title: “COVID-19 Severity in Europe and the USA: Could the Seasonal Influenza Vaccination Play a Role?”
Date: June 2020
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3621446
Quote:
“Our analysis indicates that receiving seasonal influenza vaccination(s) in the past might be an additional risk factor for the elderly in terms of enhanced susceptibility to infection with SARS-CoV-2 and higher likelihood of a lethal outcome in case of infection.”
There were several other such research papers online, but somehow they have become more difficult to find now. (I saved some links, in case anyone is interested.) The key point I want to make here is that the above findings were never mentioned by our health services during the big flu vaccination campaign in the fall. They only said ‘take the flu vaccine to make the covid-19 second wave less severe’.
After the flu vaccination campaign, the Canadian health department reported a dramatic increase of covid-19 cases and deaths over the winter all across Canada. Was there a deliberate plan at a high level to use the flu vaccination to worsen covid-19? Nothing would surprise me at this point…
It is notable that many poorer tropical countries which don’t have flu vaccination programs, as in Africa, have a low covid infection rate.
However, several South American countries have reportedly experienced critical caseloads of covid-19. In particular, Brazil, Peru, and perhaps Ecuador.
MY QUESTION IS, do Brazil, Peru and Ecuador have ongoing FLU vaccination programs? Perhaps some of you who live there could tell us? (Sorry, I don’t speak Spanish or Portuguese.)
Thank you in advance for any info you can provide.
Harmony
16th March 2021, 08:17
Welcome to Project Avalon Rizotto. Thank you for your post and you have asked some good questions.
I do remember the same push for Flu vaccines here in Australia before the Covid wave. It would be nice to know from where that push came from, knowing it may worsen Covid symptoms.
Johan (Keyholder)
16th March 2021, 08:36
Glad to have you on PA Rizotto!
Living in Belgium, over here there has always been "a trend" to have a yearly vaccination against the flu. Especially for older people. Because they have "a less good immunization" (as it is called).
Now, we had a lot of Covid-deaths (true or not). And lots of people do take a yearly flu-shot.
Maybe whatever is in vaccines (many not so good physical things, let alone the spiritual side of the matter) works cumulative. And everyone could have a kind of "tipping-point".
I compare it with anaesthesia (during operations). Some people can have a 100 of them, some die from just one.
Or the accumulation of aluminium in the body. Also something similar.
In any case, vaccinations are definitely not good for us!
jaybee
16th March 2021, 09:30
Thanks Rizotto - re the connection between the annual flu vaccine and the (so called) SARS-CoV-2 'pandemic'...
At the very least I think the annual flu jab is to help normalize having regular vaccines - but I do suspect there's more to it than that and they (flu jabs) could be involved in some other way - I mean... if all this is part of a long term plan for depopulation and transhumanism then nothing is off the table when it comes to their devious (and demonic?) plans...
A few months ago I came across a theory with data that was linking the explosion of SARS-CoV-2 in North Italy to the 'regular' flu vaccine - something to do with certain batches of it - I've just been trying to find it again but to no avail.... I thought I might have saved it but I can't find it ...
When I believe I had the SARS-CoV-2 in December 2019..... (the symptoms fitted and it was extreme and odd - and at the time I joked that I felt like I'd been hit with a biological weapon - there was something different about it and I continue to believe that's when I had it (and many people in the town where I live)....
But anyway.... when I had this severe and odd virus that involved the cough from hell... at the time I thought I had caught it off my Mom who had been ill with something just before me...
Mom lives in a Care Home and they all had the annual flu jab end of Oct / early Nov 2019.. can't remember exactly when and straight away they were all very ill (staff and residents) ..... with something that involved a very bad cough and bad chest - my Mom had a horrible rattling cough and bad chest for weeks... but eventually it got better -
At the time I thought that they all got sick because of the Flu Jab.... then I caught it off Mom.... (and as I said many people in the town where I live had an odd virus - and I do think that Covid 19 swept through the town at the end of 2019 - I have wondered if it was connected to the flu jab in some way...)
I could speculate that the annual flu jab was used to seed SARS-CoV-2 around the world (selected batches) to prepare for the scamdemic and make it look more virulent and dangerous than it is ..... that is just speculation but who knows I wouldn't put anything passed 'them'.....
I also take your point that there could also be a connection with the annual flu jab and the severity of the SARS-CoV-2 virus..... in that the annual jab could have generally weakened the immune system and increased susceptibility....
I've never had the flu jab myself and don't intend to have the Covid one.... I've already had a phone call from my doctors and two letters from the NHS telling me what a good idea it is to get it...
I think it's a disgrace that so called medical professionals and politicians etc... aren't at all bothered about trying to prevent the virus and save people who have it with cheap and available interventions like for example - ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine...
They are all about pressure to have the Vaccine and nothing else... and that in itself should be a warning...
Rizotto
16th March 2021, 09:56
Thanks all for the above info, very much appreciated. Here's why I would like to hear from folks from South America. Canada's national disinformation site, CBC, keeps churning out articles about how bad the covid situation is in Brazil. Here's one example:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brazil-health-minister-jair-bolsonaro-pandemic-1.5951065
"Brazil's president chooses 4th health minister as hospitals teeter on collapse from COVID-19"
Are the Brazilian hospitals really about to collapse? I thought Ivermectin was readily available in Brazil for treating covid, but perhaps not so? Do they get the annual flu vaccination?
jaybee
16th March 2021, 10:15
Thanks all for the above info, very much appreciated. Here's why I would like to hear from folks from South America. Canada's national disinformation site, CBC, keeps churning out articles about how bad the covid situation is in Brazil. Here's one example:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brazil-health-minister-jair-bolsonaro-pandemic-1.5951065
"Brazil's president chooses 4th health minister as hospitals teeter on collapse from COVID-19"
Are the Brazilian hospitals really about to collapse? I thought Ivermectin was readily available in Brazil for treating covid, but perhaps not so? Do they get the annual flu vaccination?
We await to hear if they get the annual flu vaccines.... but just want to make a general comment......
I think the Colluding Globalists are gunning for Bolsonaro (like they did/do for Trump)... and weaponizing the virus to do this.... so they will make it all sound really bad... the UK gets this as well because of Brexit..?
Is weakening and getting rid of Bolsonaro part of 'their' preparation for Global Governance and a Global Digital Currency .... a union of Canada, North and South America...being one of the steps..
pyrangello
16th March 2021, 13:25
FORMER GATES FOUNDATION VACCINE SCIENTIST CALLS FOR HALT TO VACCINATIONS, PREDICTS “WIPE OUT” OF POPULATIONS Separately, different groups of doctors and scientists have issued statements warning of the unnecessary risk of the vaccines for a 99.4% to 99.8% survival rate virus, which is similar to normal flus. For most age ranges, one has a greater chance of dying of flu than of COVID .
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/03/13/former-gates-foundation-vaccine-scientist-calls-for-halt-to-vaccinations-predicts-wipe-out-of-populations/
46382
If you weren't aware there was 115 billion set aside for this vaccine. Add to that there was a monkey shortage for testing, they basically killed them all off. This would be like throwing 1 pellet of fish food into a pond of piranha's . And now we are the going to be the test results since the pharmas have their money and immunity from lawsuits.
amor
17th March 2021, 03:07
After reading DaveToo on page 2, I feel that older populations are being given a jab that will KILL them, they go home and then to the hospital. Another posting says that by taking one jab you are automatically signed up for an endless number of them thereafter, thus speeding your recreation as a Borg AI, or killing you if the frequencies it emits combine to kill you. As for the test stick, that is only a Logic Trap to get you to take the jab which will either kill you or turn you into an AI Borg. On top of all of this, you are not informed that if you take one Jab you are required to continue on down the road as they demand. As usual, while they are killing you they are making huge bundles of money in the process. My solution is to hang the Ba..ards by their balls from the nearest 5G Tower on the Highway.
amor
17th March 2021, 03:10
P.S. Like the mad duchess in Alice in Wonderland, only grand duchesses are permitted to come up with such solutions.
kfm27917
17th March 2021, 13:32
On March 6, an open letter by Geert Vanden Bossche, PhD, DVM, and a video interview of him by Phillip McMillan, MD, from a company called Vejon Health, were posted online.
On the surface, Vanden Bossche appears to perhaps be addressing credible concerns about Covid.
He's saying that the current crop of Covid vaccines will cause the novel coronavirus to mutate into a "super-infectious virus." And therefore he's calling for an immediate halt of the use of the current vaccines.
If humans are "committed to perpetuating our species, we have no choice but to eradicate these highly infectious viral variants" via "large vaccination campaigns," Vanden Bossche claims at the conclusion of his open letter. However, he continues, in contrast to the currently used Covid vaccines, these new vaccines must focus on stimulation of mass production of the component of the immune system known as natural killer cells, he asserts.
But Vanden Bossche bases his views on unproven hypotheses. This is similar to, and builds on, high-profile modeling-paper authors who use theoretical frameworks to inflame fears about the supposed dangerousness of the new variants.
Despite this, Vanden Bossche's views were very quickly and positively received by high-profile vaccine sceptics such as Del Bigtree in his March 11 episode (starting at 57:25) and Vernon Coleman in his March 13 video and article.
more at
https://www.sott.net/article/450176-The-curious-case-of-Geert-Vanden-Bossche
gord
17th March 2021, 20:01
My sister won't visit me if I don't get vaccinated.
Me from May 24, 2020 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110506-Covid19-Cui-Bono-Is-there-an-agenda&p=1357685&viewfull=1#post1357685) in a related thread:
with easily falsified data, what a handy way to create pariahs on demand.
roguemoon
17th March 2021, 21:18
this guy may have it absolutely right, there are now 12 variants and with the uk coming out of lockdown, the scene is set for a catastrophe.
Matthew
17th March 2021, 22:40
In the end we have The Cult Of The Vaccine. Not explicitly, because people who have become members would not think they are in a religion. But still it's like a religious belief. The vaccine is literal magic, to some people - no side effects (or risk) because they know bob who had it, or they had it, and feel fine. So the rumours are false. Besides they're only reported by conspiracy theorists.
I read this on twitter: It is certainly starting to look like a cult, the magical accessories, the saints, even the evangelizing...
The unknowing cultist's enemies are the vaccine hesitancers. This however may be no problem; it may possibly simply become a new medical condition to be treated (link to the government committee call for evidence document about this in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1415468&viewfull=1#post1415468))
Rizotto
18th March 2021, 09:11
deleted content of this post as it somehow was incomplete and duplicated by the post right below. (sorry, no idea how that happened.)
Rizotto
18th March 2021, 09:23
A quick update about my posts above (#103 & 107) concerning Brazil covid situation, and why Canada's CBC news reports often mention it negatively. I just found out that Brazil made a deal with Russia for their Sputnik vaccine. The USA was most displeased about this, and pressured Brazil to drop that agreement.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/03/16/russia-slams-us-over-brazil-coronavirus-vaccine-pressure-a73250
Does it get any sillier? Possibly, as Canada has been used as the guard dog to keep latin america's nations in line with the deep state agenda, including the demonization of Russia at all costs. Brazil's breaking line with dealings with Russia could explain the current CBC efforts to portray Brazil as incompetent. Just my theory at this time.
Last minute addition to this post, because of an article I just read about Brazil and covid vaccines. It’s even more convoluted than I ever imagined.
Just exactly what is going on…
https://www.globalresearch.ca/lula-return-arrival-sputnik-v-change-brazilian-political-scenario/5740196
My initial question remains: Is there an annual flu vaccination program in Brazil?
wegge
18th March 2021, 09:26
In the end we have The Cult Of The Vaccine. Not explicitly, because people who have become members would not think they are in a religion. But still it's like a religious belief. The vaccine is literal magic, to some people - no side effects (or risk) because they know bob who had it, or they had it, and feel fine. So the rumours are false. Besides they're only reported by conspiracy theorists.
I read this on twitter: It is certainly starting to look like a cult, the magical accessories, the saints, even the evangelizing...
The unknowing cultist's enemies are the vaccine hesitancers. This however may be no problem; it may possibly simply become a new medical condition to be treated (link to the government committee call for evidence document about this in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1415468&viewfull=1#post1415468))
Yesterday I’ve seen a German snippet from 2019 where all our usual suspects like Gates Foundation Wellcome trust reps. came together with our German blabla politicians and during this glorious occasion our no.1 pharmalobbyist aka minister of health mentioned that the WHO declared vaccine skeptics as one of the 10 greatest threats to public health.
Ratszinger
18th March 2021, 10:28
Vaccines work! I'm all on board for a "Real" vaccine. This is not a real vaccine. This is experimental gene therapy being called a vaccine, which makes it an illegal trade practice being perpetrated against all of us under the guise of, "NATL.Health." This does not meet the definition of a vaccine! A vaccine must according to the CDC "STIMULATE THE IMMUNE SYSTEM" so that you would be immune to the virus you just got a stick to prevent! This shot does not do that! It does not stop or do anything to even slow the spread of the virus either! Therefore it is something other than a vaccine! They call it a vaccine simply to cover their asses legally because we can't sue them for negative effects of vaccine therapy by law! But sooner or later they'll kill the wrong rich person with this and the hammer for evidence and discovery will go to court! Big money will be exchanged and it will be on! They better have their science ready because if it gets to a jury and they see the facts they are all going to know they've been had! The data won't fit to make this any kind of a vaccine when it gives you zero immunity for the very virus you are getting stuck for! So why get it? If they force a mandate on this it has to go to court because others with science backgrounds are going to look and know this doesn't meet the definition of a vaccine even by the CDC's own website definition!
Arcturian108
18th March 2021, 11:48
On March 6, an open letter by Geert Vanden Bossche, PhD, DVM, and a video interview of him by Phillip McMillan, MD, from a company called Vejon Health, were posted online.
On the surface, Vanden Bossche appears to perhaps be addressing credible concerns about Covid.
He's saying that the current crop of Covid vaccines will cause the novel coronavirus to mutate into a "super-infectious virus." And therefore he's calling for an immediate halt of the use of the current vaccines.
If humans are "committed to perpetuating our species, we have no choice but to eradicate these highly infectious viral variants" via "large vaccination campaigns," Vanden Bossche claims at the conclusion of his open letter. However, he continues, in contrast to the currently used Covid vaccines, these new vaccines must focus on stimulation of mass production of the component of the immune system known as natural killer cells, he asserts.
But Vanden Bossche bases his views on unproven hypotheses. This is similar to, and builds on, high-profile modeling-paper authors who use theoretical frameworks to inflame fears about the supposed dangerousness of the new variants.
Despite this, Vanden Bossche's views were very quickly and positively received by high-profile vaccine sceptics such as Del Bigtree in his March 11 episode (starting at 57:25) and Vernon Coleman in his March 13 video and article.
more at
https://www.sott.net/article/450176-The-curious-case-of-Geert-Vanden-Bossche
Some are seeing red flags in the Vanden Bossche's views as he really is still pushing vaccines, just not the ones currently being used:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rebuttal-rosemary-frei-bossche-vaccination-concern/
Matthew
18th March 2021, 15:05
Vaccines work! I'm all on board for a "Real" vaccine. This is not a real vaccine. This is experimental gene therapy being called a vaccine, which makes it an illegal trade practice being perpetrated against all of us under the guise of, "NATL.Health." This does not meet the definition of a vaccine! A vaccine must according to the CDC "STIMULATE THE IMMUNE SYSTEM" so that you would be immune to the virus you just got a stick to prevent! This shot does not do that! It does not stop or do anything to even slow the spread of the virus either! Therefore it is something other than a vaccine! They call it a vaccine simply to cover their asses legally because we can't sue them for negative effects of vaccine therapy by law! But sooner or later they'll kill the wrong rich person with this and the hammer for evidence and discovery will go to court! Big money will be exchanged and it will be on! They better have their science ready because if it gets to a jury and they see the facts they are all going to know they've been had! The data won't fit to make this any kind of a vaccine when it gives you zero immunity for the very virus you are getting stuck for! So why get it? If they force a mandate on this it has to go to court because others with science backgrounds are going to look and know this doesn't meet the definition of a vaccine even by the CDC's own website definition!
Yeah, exactly as you said it! - and I thought this was common knowledge, that the mRNA vaccines don't work in the same way as the famous smallpox vaccine. Yet I was talking to someone at work, explaining that the modern vaccine is not a 'mini dose of covid' to let your natural immune system figure out how to kill the real thing. It augments your body to do a similar job, in a radically different way. I'm nervous that those who have had the modern vaccine/inoculation will be depending on updates forever, and the pharmaceutical companies love a hostage customer. For better or for worse I'm putting my money on my own bodies immune system
Ratszinger
18th March 2021, 17:01
Vaccines work! I'm all on board for a "Real" vaccine. This is not a real vaccine. This is experimental gene therapy being called a vaccine, which makes it an illegal trade practice being perpetrated against all of us under the guise of, "NATL.Health." This does not meet the definition of a vaccine! A vaccine must according to the CDC "STIMULATE THE IMMUNE SYSTEM" so that you would be immune to the virus you just got a stick to prevent! This shot does not do that! It does not stop or do anything to even slow the spread of the virus either! Therefore it is something other than a vaccine! They call it a vaccine simply to cover their asses legally because we can't sue them for negative effects of vaccine therapy by law! But sooner or later they'll kill the wrong rich person with this and the hammer for evidence and discovery will go to court! Big money will be exchanged and it will be on! They better have their science ready because if it gets to a jury and they see the facts they are all going to know they've been had! The data won't fit to make this any kind of a vaccine when it gives you zero immunity for the very virus you are getting stuck for! So why get it? If they force a mandate on this it has to go to court because others with science backgrounds are going to look and know this doesn't meet the definition of a vaccine even by the CDC's own website definition!
Yeah, exactly as you said it! - and I thought this was common knowledge, that the mRNA vaccines don't work in the same way as the famous smallpox vaccine. Yet I was talking to someone at work, explaining that the modern vaccine is not a 'mini dose of covid' to let your natural immune system figure out how to kill the real thing. It augments your body to do a similar job, in a radically different way. I'm nervous that those who have had the modern vaccine/inoculation will be depending on updates forever, and the pharmaceutical companies love a hostage customer. For better or for worse I'm putting my money on my own bodies immune system
Carlin classic! Prophetic really!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo&t=9s
Franny
18th March 2021, 18:55
Avoiding the vaccine is getting to be quite the issue. Aside from simply not being allowed to attend concerts, museums, movies, sporting events and so on, it may soon go as far as to keep unvaccinated people out of grocery stores and food shops.
If resistance continues it appears they are setting up to classify the unvaccinated as terrorists of the domestic variety. Then what?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/anti-vaccine-extremism-is-akin-to-domestic-terrorism/2021/02/26/736aee22-787e-11eb-8115-9ad5e9c02117_story.html
Opinion: Anti-vaccine extremism is akin to domestic terrorism
Protesters hold placards near the entrance of the vaccination center at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles on Jan. 30 in this image from a social media video.
Opinion by Richard Pan
Feb. 28, 2021 at 5:00 a.m. HST
Richard Pan is a pediatrician and California state senator. He is the honorary co-chair of ReadytoVaccinate.org.
Vaccines don’t stop viruses. Vaccinations do. This common public health saying means a vaccine does no good if we can’t get it into people’s arms. Insufficient supplies, natural disasters and bureaucratic mistakes have slowed efforts, but the overall goal of vaccinating a large majority of the U.S. population may ultimately be hampered by the anti-vaccine movement unless steps are taken to limit its impact.
Otherwise, America may witness more scenes like the one in Los Angeles on Jan. 30, when a mob of anti-vaccine protesters stormed Dodger Stadium, one of the nation’s largest vaccination centers. These extremists succeeded in temporarily shutting down the site, delaying patients, many of them elderly, from getting their shots. The anti-vaccine activists have told the Los Angeles Times that they intend to keep disrupting vaccination efforts.
Johnson & Johnson’s coronavirus vaccine authorized for emergency use by FDA
This campaign to deny potentially lifesaving vaccines to those seeking them, and to poison public opinion against vaccinations, could result in countless American deaths. That is akin to domestic terrorism.
Public health officials, police and fire departments must join hands with a common goal of securing vaccination sites for patients. But, like the virus itself, anti-vaccine extremists are crafty at finding new ways to threaten people. Disruptions are possible anywhere vaccinations are being administered, at sites large and small — even at pharmacies, just as anti-maskers have harassed employees and customers at stores.
Laws need to be strengthened to deter such actions. We can still honor the First Amendment and make sure people have access to vaccinations.
Laws have been in place for years creating buffer zones to distance protesters from abortion clinics — legislation that has withstood plenty of court challenges. Los Angeles is planning such a zone for Dodger Stadium.
Surely similar laws can be enacted to discourage harassment of those seeking protection from a deadly virus.
A major weapon of anti-vaccine extremists is the ability to organize disinformation campaigns on Facebook and other social media. Corporate owners of these platforms can moderate and close down groups that promote disinformation and endanger lives. Why don’t these companies treat anti-vaccine activists the same way?
A troubling thought is that both the social media companies and the extremists have a financial interest in continuing as before. Coordinated attacks on the truth by anti-vaccine propagandists are the best advertising for the alternative remedies and magical supplements that many anti-vaccine leaders sell to their followers.
In other words, some anti-vaccine leaders’ financial well-being depends on endangering everyone else’s health and safety. Social media companies should not be complicit in this dangerous movement.
I don’t underestimate the backlash from anti-vaccine protesters that awaits anyone who tries to rein in their poisonous efforts. When measles hit Disneyland in 2015 — one sad result of a sustained, misinformation campaign against the measles vaccine — I wrote a California law that abolished nonmedical exemptions for vaccinations required for school enrollment. We needed to restore community immunity to measles, and that was the best way to achieve it. Because I sponsored the bill, I was attacked — and continue to be harassed — by these anti-science extremists. In 2019, one of them physically attacked me on the street in Sacramento, proudly live-streaming it to his 4,500 Facebook followers.
Taking concerted steps to counter the coronavirus anti-vaccine movement has already resulted in violent threatsbeing hurled at me and my legislative colleagues as recently as Thursday. Last month, an anti-vaccine extremist shoutedfrom the Senate gallery, “We didn’t buy guns for nothing.” But that should not deter anyone who’s interested in fighting the pandemic from championing evidence-based policies.
Beyond legislation, government must better educate people about how vaccines benefit the entire community. We should fully fund local health departments, protect public health officials, and rely on those officials — not politicians — to lead in times of health crisis. There’s no room for partisanship in a pandemic that has killed more than a half-million Americans.
The country’s founding motto, “E pluribus unum,” or, “Out of many, one,” defines our sacred civic duty to love others as much as ourselves. As Pope Francis has said of the coronavirus vaccines, “It is the moral choice because it is about your life but also the lives of others.” Getting vaccinated is a patriotic act. So is speaking up to support public health efforts. Let’s not allow extremism, division or fear to slow the efforts to end this deadly chapter in our nation’s history.
Read more:
George A. Jones: How we’re working toward racial equity in distributing coronavirus vaccines in D.C.
Dorry Segev and Marty Makary: Let’s have ‘immunitynights’ to keep American businesses alive
The Post’s View: More vaccines are coming. We need a national campaign to persuade those hesitant to take them.
Molly Roberts: Welcome to the mind-boggling limbo of partial vaccination
Melissa Fleming and John Whyte: Wealthy nations must act to prevent a global ‘vaccine apartheid’
Constance
18th March 2021, 19:05
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pueblo
18th March 2021, 19:33
Avoiding the vaccine is getting to be quite the issue. Aside from simply not being allowed to attend concerts, museums, movies, sporting events and so on, it may soon go as far as to keep unvaccinated people out of grocery stores and food shops.
If resistance continues it appears they are setting up to classify the unvacinated as terrorists of the domestic variety. Then what?
What if they already know the answer to 'then what?'... What if they are very well aware that vaccinating massive amounts of people during a pandemic could cause viral immune escape*, wouldn't this take care nicely (and poetically) of the problematic antivax crazies in short order? Who would raise an eyebrow? After all they refused the vaccine...they have to accept the consequences.
The danger of viral immune escape can be seen in the case of battery farm chickens, all of which have to be vaccinated against the viral Marek's disease. No vaccinated chicken actually ever gets the disease but they all carry it due to viral immune escape caused by the vaccine. These vaccinated chickens pose a deadly threat to any unvaccinated bird.
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Antigenic escape
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Antigenic escape (alternatively called immune escape or immune evasion) occurs when the immune system of a human being ("host") is unable to respond to an infectious agent, or in other words that the host's immune system is no longer able to recognize and eliminate a virus or pathogen. This process can occur in a number of different ways of both a genetic and an environmental nature.[1] Such mechanisms include homologous recombination, and manipulation and resistance of the host's immune responses.[2]
Different antigens are able to escape through a variety of mechanisms. For example, the African trypanosome parasites are able to clear the host's antibodies, as well as resist lysis and inhibit parts of the innate immune response.[3] Another bacteria, Bordetella pertussis, is able to escape the immune response by inhibiting neutrophils and macrophages from invading the infection site early on.[4] One cause of antigenic escape is that a pathogen's epitopes (the binding sites for immune cells) become too similar to a person's naturally occurring MHC-1 epitopes. The immune system becomes unable to distinguish the infection from self-cells.[citation needed]
Antigenic escape is not only crucial for the host's natural immune response, but also for the resistance against vaccinations. The problem of antigenic escape has greatly deterred the process of creating new vaccines. Because vaccines generally cover a small ratio of strains of one virus, the recombination of antigenic DNA that lead to diverse pathogens allows these invaders to resist even newly developed vaccinations.[5] Some antigens may even target pathways different than those the vaccine had originally intended to target.[4] Recent research on many vaccines, including the malaria vaccine, has focused on how to anticipate this diversity and create vaccinations that can cover a broader spectrum of antigenic variation.[5]
Arcturian108
19th March 2021, 14:30
Here is a new American organization and website fighting for our medical freedoms with lawsuits around the U.S.:
https://makeamericansfreeagain.com/
Mark
19th March 2021, 14:49
Yet I was talking to someone at work, explaining that the modern vaccine is not a 'mini dose of covid' to let your natural immune system figure out how to kill the real thing. It augments your body to do a similar job, in a radically different way. I'm nervous that those who have had the modern vaccine/inoculation will be depending on updates forever, and the pharmaceutical companies love a hostage customer. For better or for worse I'm putting my money on my own bodies immune system
I like that you use the word "updates", as that is apropos of what this mRNA "vaccine" must do, just like computer software, right? It is part and parcel of the path to transhumanism. We must get a new update to account for new variants and the variants will be endless as Covid continues to mutate within the immuno-suppressed folk, finding its way further past our natural defenses. If you accept the voluminous research going on right now and read some of the papers that are coming out talking about all of this, the evolution of this form of Covid has been supercharged by people who would not have lived back in the day, during the Spanish Flu, because people who had compromised immune systems back then would have died as there were no medicinal treatments that could have extended their lives. Now there are, so these folks are living longer, as long as they take their medicines. But, Covid is evolving within them at a pace much faster than within the general population as a whole, it stays active within them for months at a time probing, testing, gathering its own defenses and learning to beat our immune systems.
These folks are also super-spreaders while they have an active infection. So the new Covid variations are evolved in a way that would take decades if not hundreds of years to see in a normal situation of virus mutation. At least, that is what it seems to be to me, although none of the research papers or articles are actually saying that. It is scary to think of and even scarier to consider what a perfect playground the human species is to a new virus, exploring and pushing the boundaries of its own potentiality as far as virusly possible.
gord
19th March 2021, 17:30
I would say "chronic updates".
Matthew
19th March 2021, 21:27
I like that you use the word "updates", as that is apropos of what this mRNA "vaccine" must do, just like computer software, right? It is part and parcel of the path to transhumanism. We must get a new update to account for new variants and the variants will be endless as Covid continues to mutate within the immuno-suppressed folk, finding its way further past our natural defenses. ...
All those new variants, virusing and mutating. And yeah... the virus aint going back in the box. It's made me raise my game with being a bit more conscious of my immune system, for example I take regular vit. D3 (regular being the key so I read). And then the vaccine as a transhumanism device;;... well that's terrifying. A captive audience for REAL research (sarcasm). Feels like important food for thought there, if not horrible but that's how it goes, not our fault.
I caught a bit of a video of Dr John Coleman speaking in 1994 while browsing social media. Searched for that speech in this forum, and there are loads of hits. Fished this video out from a post by DNA from 2018 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis&p=1235073&viewfull=1#post1235073). In it, DNA wrote "... Coleman himself has said that David Icke has quoted him numerous times and used his research without ever giving him proper credit. Alex Jones also owes his understanding for what is going on to Dr. John Coleman but unlike Icke, Alex Jones has credited Dr. John Coleman many times and has also had him on his show. ..."
At 44:00 Coleman talks about the WHO and vaccines (1994)
rRqx1YgIBMw
This video totally feels like it could fit in the Avalon Library, because if it is an important video, I just know I'm gonna make Tintin spit out his coffee if I post a YouTube video that we have in our library. We do have some Coleman ebooks in the Library, but no video jumping out at me
A bunch of ebooks that come back in an Avalon Library search for "Dr John Coleman" (https://avalonlibrary.net/?search=Dr+John+Coleman)
Tintin
19th March 2021, 22:30
I like that you use the word "updates", as that is apropos of what this mRNA "vaccine" must do, just like computer software, right? It is part and parcel of the path to transhumanism. We must get a new update to account for new variants and the variants will be endless as Covid continues to mutate within the immuno-suppressed folk, finding its way further past our natural defenses. ...
All those new variants, virusing and mutating. And yeah... the virus aint going back in the box. It's made me raise my game with being a bit more conscious of my immune system, for example I take regular vit. D3 (regular being the key so I read). And then the vaccine as a transhumanism device;;... well that's terrifying. A captive audience for REAL research (sarcasm). Feels like important food for thought there, if not horrible but that's how it goes, not our fault.
I caught a bit of a video of Dr John Coleman speaking in 1994 while browsing social media. Searched for that speech in this forum, and there are loads of hits. Fished this video out from a post by DNA from 2018 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis&p=1235073&viewfull=1#post1235073). In it, DNA wrote "... Coleman himself has said that David Icke has quoted him numerous times and used his research without ever giving him proper credit. Alex Jones also owes his understanding for what is going on to Dr. John Coleman but unlike Icke, Alex Jones has credited Dr. John Coleman many times and has also had him on his show. ..."
At 44:00 Coleman talks about the WHO and vaccines (1994)
rRqx1YgIBMw
This video totally feels like it could fit in the Avalon Library, because if it is an important video, I just know I'm gonna make Tintin spit out his coffee if I post a YouTube video that we have in our library. We do have some Coleman ebooks in the Library, but no video jumping out at me
A bunch of ebooks that come back in an Avalon Library search for "Dr John Coleman" (https://avalonlibrary.net/?search=Dr+John+Coleman)
Ha ha :ROFL: Genuine laugh-out-loud here. It's going to take me all week to clear up these beans matey :bigsmile:
Actually, I agree, we should put this in the Great Library of Avalonia :Avalon: It'll be in there for this weekend :thumbsup:
Thanks :bowing:
TomKat
20th March 2021, 01:37
I just re-watched the 1960 movie The Time Machine. H.G. Wells was very prescient about the Eloi and the Morlocks. Apparently the Eloi ancestors are here today: they hear a siren call that we don't hear, and they obediently go off to get their vaccine from the ancestors of the Morlocks.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054387/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_10
Sunny
21st March 2021, 08:29
I have a friend who is very, very allergic to wasps. At least three times she has gone into anaphylactic shock from wasp stings. Luckily she was able to get to a doctor, or she could have died. During the wasp season, she carries an injection of antihistamine wherever she goes, as she could lose her life from another incident.
So -- if you tell everyone that you are very, very allergic to wasps, and have gone into anaphylactic shock several times, maybe you won't have to take the vaccine. Would they put you in a cage with a wasp to check?
It's just a thought.
gord
21st March 2021, 15:24
My sister won't visit me if I don't get vaccinated.
Me from May 24, 2020 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110506-Covid19-Cui-Bono-Is-there-an-agenda&p=1357685&viewfull=1#post1357685) in a related thread:
with easily falsified data, what a handy way to create pariahs on demand.
Now my other sister, who is local to me, is pushing me to get it, and even offering to make an appointment for me. We have the same Dr.
#@*$&(*@&^(@*$$%$
East Sun
21st March 2021, 22:14
I personally, will not take the vaccine under any circumstances. I just told my family, one time,
that I will not tell them again and that it is up to them to decide for themselves.
We will see how it goes from here on. My family does not listen to me and that's OK.
I have been on top of this from day one and evaluated the pro's and con's and know
the paranoia and fear mongering that 'they' hit us with. It is big time "fearmongering"
to control the majority and we should not fall for any of their manipulation.
Please listen to those who know and decipher which is which.
Good luck in your search for truth.
Matthew
22nd March 2021, 23:41
Boris & Hancock Agree To Create Mandatory Vaccination Law For Care Home Staff
We Got A Problem
"If they can pass it for this, they can pass it for anything"
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TomKat
24th March 2021, 11:22
Los Angeles Unified School District being sued for making the covid vax mandatory.
https://www.einpresswire.com/article/537112007/employees-sue-lausd-for-mandating-experimental-covid-19-vaccine
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Employees Sue LAUSD for Mandating Experimental Covid-19 Vaccine
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Employees of LAUSD, with the assistance of the Health Freedom Defense Fund, filed a federal lawsuit demanding that LAUSD halt its Covid-19 vaccine mandate.
SANDPOINT, IDAHO, UNITED STATES, March 18, 2021 /EINPresswire.com/ -- Last night employees of the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD), with the assistance of the Health Freedom Defense Fund, filed a federal lawsuit demanding that LAUSD halt its Covid-19 vaccine mandate. LAUSD, the second largest school district in the US, is forcing its employees to take an experimental vaccine in order to remain employed, which is contrary to federal law and basic human rights.
All Covid-19 vaccines available in the US at present have been issued under Emergency Use Authorizations (EUA) – none have been licensed or approved by FDA. In an emergency, federal law allows the issuance of medical products under an EUA but specifically defines any such products as “investigational” and requires that recipients be informed of the benefits, risks, and “the option to accept or refuse administration of the product.”
Vaccine development normally requires 8-10 years of research, development, and testing to demonstrate safety and efficacy before FDA approval and licensure, but Covid-19 vaccines have been rushed to market in a matter of months in what can only be described as a massive human experiment.
While the Johnson and Johnson Covid-19 vaccine is made using cells from aborted human babies, the Covid-19 vaccines manufactured by Pfizer and Moderna both employ a new technology that injects a genetic sequence, messenger RNA (mRNA), prompting the body to manufacture the spike protein believed to be on the surface of Sars-CoV-2 in turn eliciting an antibody response in the body. No one knows the short, medium, or long-term effects of this medical intervention over 1, 5, 10, or 50 years.
Where will the spike proteins and responding antibodies migrate in the body? When will the production of spike proteins stop once they’ve begun? What organs or body systems will be impacted? Can any deleterious effects be undone? These questions can’t be answered as the studies have not been conducted.
Since implementation of the Nuremberg Code, free nations have recognized that forced medical experimentation of any kind is both inhumane and unethical. This human right against medical experimentation has been ratified by the 1964 Declaration of Helsinki and the US Code of Federal Regulations. In 2005, the General Conference of UNESCO adopted the Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights, requiring free and informed consent for participation in medical research-oriented treatments. There can be no doubt these treaties and regulations reaffirm the basic human right to bodily autonomy and the right to voluntary informed consent.
By choosing to mandate experimental Covid-19 vaccines, LAUSD is forcing employees to choose between providing for their families and being the victim of human experimentation. Forced vaccination is not only unethical, it violates the tenets fundamental to a free society and must stop.
Matthew
28th March 2021, 11:02
Dr Vernon Coleman
unite and fight
One curiosity above all others tells us for, certain that, covid 19 is the biggest hoax in history, a monumental fraud, a coup; perpetrated by conspiricy practioners, who's aims are to win power and money over everyone, everywhere.
The curiosity is that celebrities are allowed to tell us that the vaccine is safe and effective, but truth telling doctors who believe that members of the public are entitled to informed consent, are suppressed, oppressed, dismissed, trivialised, lied about, and demonised.
...
At the 19:49 mark:
During my 50 year war with drug companies, I've had papers stolen from my office, and I've been threatened. Editors have been urged to fire me, I've had injunctions and lawsuits. And I've learned that controlled opposition is a speciality of the drug companies.
Look at what happened recently when a Dr Bosh popped up and published a serious warning about the experimental coid 19 vaccines currently being promoted with such misplaced enthusiasm.
I made a video in which I included a section discussing Bosh's statements. I made it clear that I knew he'd worked for Bill and Melidnar Gates, Garvey, and GSK (the same company which employed Vallance; the chief scientific officer.)
...
https://brandnewtube.b-cdn.net/upload/videos/2021/03/oypWkcHRE3CoyKX9EEQy_23_a19e719a729a42716bca22db0f89f1ef_video_480p_converted.mp4
Bassplayer1
28th March 2021, 11:40
I came across a short video by David Mahoney on the Digital Warrior Productions website about what we can do to refuse the vaccine. Here's a link to the page with the video, but more importantly, an EXCELLENT downloadable PDF letter that has several questions that we know no medical person will be able to answer at all, let alone honestly! It's great!
https://digitalwarriorproductions.com/vaccine-response-questions-download/
Ratszinger
28th March 2021, 13:59
I came across a short video by David Mahoney on the Digital Warrior Productions website about what we can do to refuse the vaccine. Here's a link to the page with the video, but more importantly, an EXCELLENT downloadable PDF letter that has several questions that we know no medical person will be able to answer at all, let alone honestly! It's great!
https://digitalwarriorproductions.com/vaccine-response-questions-download/
All you need to refuse it is that simple fact that not one of them is FDA approved. Case closed! You needn't say more!
Philippe
30th March 2021, 17:33
https://www.dw.com/ru/sputnik-v-i-drugie-rossijskie-vakciny-ot-koronavirusa-chto-o-nih-izvestno/a-56827822?fbclid=IwAR3-0USFKO-ZRQMlc2Jk8rVEINskVKvvl5eDT7OXNRMoc7mpIp1GmFp2-PI
"Спутник V" и другие российские вакцины от коронавируса: что о них известно?
Here is a Russian article about their different vaccines.
The machine can translate to english or french
Spoutnik V et autres vaccins russes contre le coronavirus: que sait-on d'eux? | La Russie et les Russes: une vue de l'Europe | DW | 12/03/2021 (sv22ljrymy6gkqx6h5sdbkhxse-fe3tvbk6lcbjw-www-dw-com.translate.goog)
Besides I read this in the article: "Each dose of Sputnik V contains a genetically modified adenovirus as a base (in the first dose - Ad26-S, in the second - Ad5-S), which codes for the coronavirus protein SARS-CoV-2. In general, the Russian vaccine has certain similarities with the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and the AstraZeneca company, which also uses a genetically modified adenovirus - chimpanzee. This vaccine is already approved for use in the EU ."
What does it mean?
What I feared is that it is the same poison as Astra Zeneca and with a genetically modified ingredient. We better alert people who trust Putin.
That the vaccine industry is everywhere and will sell its poison with different labels?
That the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine is the same everywhere and developed from the artificial patented SARS-CoV-2 virus by french Institut Pasteur ? (As per the strong theory of french professor Jean-Bernard Fourtillan who is very enthusiastic that the genocidal plan has failed and is to fall apart soon)
That all governments are scrambling to avoid bankruptcy and get their part of the vaccine bonanza? What an sobering thought.
Any news from our Russian friends about adverse effects would be helpful.
roguemoon
30th March 2021, 22:05
Copied from another source
Vaccinated people could now pose a genuine threat to human society and could be the most likely to infect others with mutated virus strains that are already appearing and demonstrating immunity to the existing vaccines.
The safest people on planet earth right now could be those who have shunned the Vaccines and preferred to rely on their strong innate immune systems boosted daily with vitamins, zinc, regular nutrition, restful sleep and avoidance of toxic foods and medications.
Only a person with a healthy innate immune system stands any chance of defeating the rapid mutations that are coming.
Sadly every human being who has taken the vaccine could now be a walking virus timebomb, primed and ready to begin “shedding” mutated strains of the virus all over society with the help of their vaccine passports.
As cruise liners, sports arenas, air lines, universities and other organizations are now announcing “vaccinated only” policies for who they will allow to resume normal activities, they are creating “perfect storm” conditions for spreading the next global killer viral strain which will be the result of random mutations created in a vaccinated person.
When the next death wave comes the media will of course blame the unvaccinated, however It could be the vaccinated who will be responsible for the surge in fatalities as well as their own demise.
The super strains have already begun to emerge.
Staying away from vaccinated people may soon be a matter of life and death for the unvaccinated.
Trisher
31st March 2021, 07:47
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Vaccinated people could now pose a genuine threat to human society and could be the most likely to infect others with mutated virus strains that are already appearing and demonstrating immunity to the existing vaccines.
The safest people on planet earth right now could be those who have shunned the Vaccines and preferred to rely on their strong innate immune systems boosted daily with vitamins, zinc, regular nutrition, restful sleep and avoidance of toxic foods and medications.
Only a person with a healthy innate immune system stands any chance of defeating the rapid mutations that are coming.
Sadly every human being who has taken the vaccine could now be a walking virus timebomb, primed and ready to begin “shedding” mutated strains of the virus all over society with the help of their vaccine passports.
As cruise liners, sports arenas, air lines, universities and other organizations are now announcing “vaccinated only” policies for who they will allow to resume normal activities, they are creating “perfect storm” conditions for spreading the next global killer viral strain which will be the result of random mutations created in a vaccinated person.
When the next death wave comes the media will of course blame the unvaccinated, however It could be the vaccinated who will be responsible for the surge in fatalities as well as their own demise.
The super strains have already begun to emerge.
Staying away from vaccinated people may soon be a matter of life and death for the unvaccinated.
This podcast from Tony Pantelleresco is stating what is happening to people who are not vaccinated associating with those that have been vaccinated. There is a whole list of remedies that may help the situation, they include essential oils , amino acids, vit c and much more.
Scroll down the linked page to the bottom for the podcast and the remedies.
https://independz.podbean.com/e/tonys-show-3312021-1/
Karezza
31st March 2021, 07:54
^^It would be useful if both the Vaxsinated and None-Vaxsinated were made aware of this possible scenario. So that if it where to come to pass rather than it become a Vaxsinated vs None-Vaxsinated blaming game on the potential outbreak...the gaze would be directed at the exact culprits? How to do so? How to get the Vaxsinated and None-Vaxsinated on the same page?
https://cdn1.telesco.pe/file/Jwd1U-B8Vv4WpVJeoMukyLyPJHdNLscLqiVE_5QS99R0N0FcGMWyC_bOZ83-4vZ0YRRaY8qrhO6vXnZK42b3rOnEaiC5HEoCMwPED4lN0yqRNk6_8E55XsrCGBOQSQHP-krPzYqxnaD-74GE_rLAUylapOFXW7Eb4GcSaj-S22i2HT52q2VDnlU4gM9uq8uHTudzeq5uxiiYKvZexh3fZ0STC7kHMZB3CLdxn722_075KPMOsolAThYRX37R40sjo4CjzI4SA9q HAD250JATWgUy2TFxvqnhYx-HTyNxOh4emcdbL-IwLYrassxM6-36XckXhod51t852211gtmJ5w.jpg
gord
31st March 2021, 14:35
My sister won't visit me if I don't get vaccinated.
Me from May 24, 2020 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110506-Covid19-Cui-Bono-Is-there-an-agenda&p=1357685&viewfull=1#post1357685) in a related thread:
with easily falsified data, what a handy way to create pariahs on demand.
Now my other sister, who is local to me, is pushing me to get it, and even offering to make an appointment for me. We have the same Dr.
#@*$&(*@&^(@*$$%$
Still getting bugged about this, and now also by my younger brother. That's 3 out of 4 siblings, leaving only my older brother, and I already know what he'll say.
Do I even dare to send any of them this link?: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender_category/covid/
avid
31st March 2021, 15:44
My family are also threatening me if I don’t have any jab, no visitations, or worse, enforcing me into a situation where multiple-freshly double-jabbed shedding goodness-knows what are arriving to stay here as soon as travel restrictions allow. I have declined any contact for foreseeable, claiming vulnerability, which is true as a hospital visit imminent due to choking/throat issues which must be resolved. I just want to get well and stop being blackmailed/threatened/accused so I can get in with my life, whatever is left of it :thumbsup:
Bill Ryan
31st March 2021, 16:31
My family are also threatening me if I don’t have any jab, no visitations, or worse, enforcing me into a situation where multiple-freshly double-jabbed shedding goodness-knows what are arriving to stay here as soon as travel restrictions allow. I have declined any contact for foreseeable, claiming vulnerability, which is true as a hospital visit imminent due to choking/throat issues which must be resolved. I just want to get well and stop being blackmailed/threatened/accused so I can get in with my life, whatever is left of it :thumbsup::bearhug:
I think you have to stand your ground. (I would!) But at the same time — if possible! — not get into any emotionally loaded arguments.
Your family is frightened, and has been influenced to be frightened. :flower:
But the thing to maybe [gently, appropriately!] remind them is that even having had the 'vaccine' doesn't make anyone less infectious, or even stop them from contracting Covid. It's supposed merely to make it less severe if it's contracted.
This is the huge confusion out there, which the media and politicians are barely addressing at all. Many good people are under the impression that this is the same as other vaccines that really are vaccines, operating to generate immunity to a pathogen. This 'vaccine', besides being dangerous (which is a different and separate argument), doesn't do that.
Your family won't be any safer, or more endangered, whether you have the vaccine or not. So the other point to maybe [gently, appropriately!] remind them of is that if THEY have the vaccine.... well, surely they'll be just fine and 100% safe, as per their very own beliefs and convictions.
Tintin
31st March 2021, 18:27
My family are also threatening me if I don’t have any jab, no visitations, or worse, enforcing me into a situation where multiple-freshly double-jabbed shedding goodness-knows what are arriving to stay here as soon as travel restrictions allow. I have declined any contact for foreseeable, claiming vulnerability, which is true as a hospital visit imminent due to choking/throat issues which must be resolved. I just want to get well and stop being blackmailed/threatened/accused so I can get in with my life, whatever is left of it :thumbsup:
Really sound advice from Bill, here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1419260&viewfull=1#post1419260) and I'm sorry you've been met with that kind of distressing situation. :flower:
if it'd help at all then a reminder about transmissibility, and a correct reminder about what immunity actually is, using actual science, may perhaps be found, here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110507-Covid19-Don-t-trust-the-statistics--or-the-science-re-the-tests-the-cause-of-the-sickness-&p=1419036&viewfull=1#post1419036). Avoiding any slanging matches is definitely the best way to go but should there be any need at all to engage then you can point this out to them.
Good luck :bearhug:
Arcturian108
4th April 2021, 01:30
I just received the following article from a doctor friend of mine. It says that U.S. federal law prohibits employers and others from requiring vaccination because the FDA only approved these 'vaccines' on an emergency basis:
https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/23/federal-law-prohibits-employers-and-others-from-requiring-vaccination-with-a-covid-19-vaccine-distributed-under-an-eua/
Matthew
4th April 2021, 19:12
Vaccination Hesitancy ⚠️
I personally used to have a vaccine hesitancy of 2-3 years. Recently, though, it's gone up considerably. But that's problematic in some places, including Mohammed Khan; on twitter he said:
Please read this.
I work as a manager in a GP Surgery and attended a meeting on "vaccination hesitancy" a few days ago.
The blind compliance of people is truly shocking.
Source: (twitter) @Mohamme90939901 (https://twitter.com/Mohamme90939901/status/1378741998014857216)
The tweet links this facebook post:
Please share far and wide.
I attended a ZOOM meeting for vaccination hesitancy.
They had a group of Dr's, a representative from Public Health and representatives from the local communities.
They were saying how the jab has been rigorously tested and is very safe. They were urging everyone to get it. That we must protect ourselves and others.
When I kept asking them about how they can say it was deemed safe in a few months, what are the long term effects, where is the data of them being trialed on all groups, etc, they constantly ignored me.
I asked them how many people have died within 28d of the jab, why data shows deaths and injuries, etc. Again, I was totally ignored.
I kept telling them that even Chris Whitty said that Covid doesn't affect the majority of people or will get mild symptoms. So, why would we take a rushed jab, not knowing the long term effects for something most of us will not get or will recover from? No answer.
They said the jab definitely protects you and others. Where is the evidence for this I kept asking. No response.
I was fuming inside when some of them started quoting Scripture about how it is our duty to protect others and how saving a life is like saving the whole of mankind/womankind.
There is no evidence that these jabs will do this.
Yet, people could die (deaths and injuries are already being reported) from these rushed, experimental jabs especially when no one knows their long term effects and weren't even trialed on all groups.
I'm totally shocked at the level of blind compliance by figures in high positions and positions of trust.
MK
Source: (facebook) Mohammed Khan (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158371049582013&id=606442012)
Tintin
4th April 2021, 20:54
This, from a Consultant (K Polyakova) working in a London hospital, published in the BMJ:
Rapid response to:
Do doctors have to have the covid-19 vaccine?
BMJ 2021; 372 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n810 (https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n810) (Published 29 March 2021)
(For context, the original (https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/372/bmj.n810.full.pdf) item being responded to.)
Response link: https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n810/rr-14
Dear Editor
I have had more vaccines in my life than most people and come from a place of significant personal and professional experience in relation to this pandemic, having managed a service during the first 2 waves and all the contingencies that go with that.
Nevertheless, what I am currently struggling with is the failure to report the reality of the morbidity caused by our current vaccination program within the health service and staff population. The levels of sickness after vaccination is unprecedented and staff are getting very sick and some with neurological symptoms which is having a huge impact on the health service function. Even the young and healthy are off for days, some for weeks, and some requiring medical treatment. Whole teams are being taken out as they went to get vaccinated together.
Mandatory vaccination in this instance is stupid, unethical and irresponsible when it comes to protecting our staff and public health. We are in the voluntary phase of vaccination, and encouraging staff to take an unlicensed product that is impacting on their immediate health, and I have direct experience of staff contracting Covid AFTER vaccination and probably transmitting it. In fact, it is clearly stated that these vaccine products do not offer immunity or stop transmission. In which case why are we doing it? There is no longitudinal safety data (a couple of months of trial data at best) available and these products are only under emergency licensing. What is to say that there are no longitudinal adverse effects that we may face that may put the entire health sector at risk?
Flu is a massive annual killer, it inundates the health system, it kills young people, the old the comorbid, and yet people can chose whether or not they have that vaccine (which had been around for a long time). And you can list a whole number of other examples of vaccines that are not mandatory and yet they protect against diseases of higher consequence.
Coercion and mandating medical treatments on our staff, of members of the public especially when treatments are still in the experimental phase, are firmly in the realms of a totalitarian Nazi dystopia and fall far outside of our ethical values as the guardians of health.
I and my entire family have had COVID. This as well as most of my friends, relatives and colleagues. I have recently lost a relatively young family member with comorbidities to heart failure, resulting from the pneumonia caused by Covid. Despite this, I would never debase myself and agree, that we should abandon our liberal principles and the international stance on bodily sovereignty, free informed choice and human rights and support unprecedented coercion of professionals, patients and people to have experimental treatments with limited safety data. This and the policies that go with this are more of a danger to our society than anything else we have faced over the last year.
What has happened to “my body my choice?” What has happened to scientific and open debate? If I don’t prescribe an antibiotic to a patient who doesn’t need it as they are healthy, am I anti-antibiotics? Or an antibiotic-denier? Is it not time that people truly thought about what is happening to us and where all of this is taking us?
Competing interests: No competing interests
Karezza
6th April 2021, 16:11
If one was thinking of obtaining a forged Vax Certification. You might have to further develop your strategy (at least for border crossing/ airports)- in the event that this account is true.
https://i.imgur.com/7LaEqcg.jpg
Bill Ryan
6th April 2021, 16:21
If one was thinking of obtaining a forged Vax Certification. You might have to further develop your strategy (at least for border crossing/ airports)- in the event that this account is true.
https://i.imgur.com/7LaEqcg.jpg
That seems so significant that I felt I should post a transcript, so it can easily be copied and quoted. This is verbatim. The English can of course be cleaned up just a little.
~~~
Today I spoke to a friend who flew in from England, his mother
works in a hospital in England as a nurse, the population there
vaccinated, he is anti-vaccine, his mother gave confirmation,
allegedly vaccinated ie. She issued the original document without
the vaccine received. Arriving in the country of origin he showed
this document at the airport, so he would not be quarantined.
Customs officers asked him to go through a device that now
displays body temperature at almost all airports. He passed, and
was told he was not vaccinated and his confirmation was invalid, as
the vaccine contains heavy metals, and they could immediately see
if a person was vaccinated! My friend, the chemist, corrects me and
says that it's not heavy metals, it's radiation.. And how can you “
friend ” all of that with your DNA..... oh good question... it's
impossible to forge confirmation.. After the vaccine you have to be
“ visible “ on devices for them!!! Those are not heavy metals, but
radioactive ones. They don't excrete from the body and " shine “ on
devices.
Bill Ryan
6th April 2021, 19:32
I was sent this page, and so I dutifully share it here without comment.
https://dhhs.ne.gov/Documents/ShotCard-ENGLISH.pdf
https://dhhs.ne.gov/Documents/ShotCard-ENGLISH.pdf
pueblo
6th April 2021, 19:51
Another good reason to avoid.
Astrazeneca vaxx now confirmed link to blood clots, though cause unknown. Seems to be more prevalent in the under 30s.
Constance
6th April 2021, 20:06
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Mark
6th April 2021, 20:10
Vaccinated people don't want to hear it. Family members just want you vaccinated. The pressure is immense from family and friends too, once they find out that you are not yet vaccinated.
They don't want to read articles, they don't want to see videos. They don't want to listen to even the science that supports the vaccine but warns of cytokine storms and the dangers of potential overactive immune system responses.
It also feels very strange. These are generally people I know and love. Perhaps, being out of synch with them on this major issue, the impression I get that they are on a different wavelength completely, in a different way than ever before, cannot be discounted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms
Constance
6th April 2021, 20:43
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happyuk
6th April 2021, 21:40
Vaccinated people don't want to hear it. Family members just want you vaccinated. The pressure is immense from family and friends too, once they find out that you are not yet vaccinated.
They don't want to read articles, they don't want to see videos. They don't want to listen to even the science that supports the vaccine but warns of cytokine storms and the dangers of potential overactive immune system responses.
It also feels very strange. These are generally people I know and love. Perhaps, being out of synch with them on this major issue, the impression I get that they are on a different wavelength completely, in a different way than ever before, cannot be discounted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms
Hit the nail on the head.
Many long-term friends, colleagues, relatives (close and distant) are all seemingly on different wavelengths to me.
Paradoxically, the person most empathetic has been my foster brother, a long time employee of the Pharma industry, and soon to take up a lucrative position with Astra Zeneca (!), who reassures me that I shouldn't need to take if I don't want it.
His kind words made a real difference.
TomKat
6th April 2021, 22:01
Vaccinated people don't want to hear it. Family members just want you vaccinated. The pressure is immense from family and friends too, once they find out that you are not yet vaccinated.
Well, if they insist you tell them you've been vaccinated, so be it. And you don't want to fly in a plane because you found out vaccinated people shed mutant strains incubating in their bodies from the jab. You're just being responsible. :-)
Trisher
7th April 2021, 08:49
If one was thinking of obtaining a forged Vax Certification. You might have to further develop your strategy (at least for border crossing/ airports)- in the event that this account is true.
https://i.imgur.com/7LaEqcg.jpg
That seems so significant that I felt I should post a transcript, so it can easily be copied and quoted. This is verbatim. The English can of course be cleaned up just a little.
~~~
Today I spoke to a friend who flew in from England, his mother
works in a hospital in England as a nurse, the population there
vaccinated, he is anti-vaccine, his mother gave confirmation,
allegedly vaccinated ie. She issued the original document without
the vaccine received. Arriving in the country of origin he showed
this document at the airport, so he would not be quarantined.
Customs officers asked him to go through a device that now
displays body temperature at almost all airports. He passed, and
was told he was not vaccinated and his confirmation was invalid, as
the vaccine contains heavy metals, and they could immediately see
if a person was vaccinated! My friend, the chemist, corrects me and
says that it's not heavy metals, it's radiation.. And how can you “
friend ” all of that with your DNA..... oh good question... it's
impossible to forge confirmation.. After the vaccine you have to be
“ visible “ on devices for them!!! Those are not heavy metals, but
radioactive ones. They don't excrete from the body and " shine “ on
devices.
So are people being injected with some sort of radioactive substance? Or is this the luciferase glow that is being picked up? Could this be in the nanos which are then activated by frequencies? There are far more questions than answers with this.
Andre
7th April 2021, 08:49
Copied from another source
Vaccinated people could now pose a genuine threat to human society and could be the most likely to infect others with mutated virus strains that are already appearing and demonstrating immunity to the existing vaccines. The safest people on planet earth right now could be those who have shunned the Vaccines and preferred to rely on their strong innate immune systems boosted daily with vitamins, zinc, regular nutrition, restful sleep and avoidance of toxic foods and medications.
Only a person with a healthy innate immune system stands any chance of defeating the rapid mutations that are coming. Sadly every human being who has taken the vaccine could now be a walking virus timebomb, primed and ready to begin “shedding” mutated strains of the virus all over society with the help of their vaccine passports.
As cruise liners, sports arenas, air lines, universities and other organizations are now announcing “vaccinated only” policies for who they will allow to resume normal activities, they are creating “perfect storm” conditions for spreading the next global killer viral strain which will be the result of random mutations created in a vaccinated person.
When the next death wave comes the media will of course blame the unvaccinated, however It could be the vaccinated who will be responsible for the surge in fatalities as well as their own demise.
The super strains have already begun to emerge. Staying away from vaccinated people may soon be a matter of life and death for the unvaccinated.
Vaccinated people may pose a threat in that they will be disconnected from Source and their own higher self (if some of the other threads in the Alternative Medicine section are to be believed), but at this stage I believe the mutated strains are totally fictitious just as covid 19 is fictitious. They are a figment of Bill Gates and his mate's imagination, designed to keep the fear alive. (Covid-19 is fictitious in the sense that no covid-19 virus has ever been isolated, anywhere in the world and the phony RT-PCR test has been totally debunked and cannot test for covid-19. We know this from the medical literature. So, unless one of these "rapid mutations" is the real thing, as in a lab designed bio-weapon, I can't see how fake mutations will make any difference to real infections. But, yes, they will make a lot of difference in promoting continued fear. Personally, I am not the least bit worried about any "super strain". It's all B.S.
TomKat
7th April 2021, 11:52
If one was thinking of obtaining a forged Vax Certification. You might have to further develop your strategy (at least for border crossing/ airports)- in the event that this account is true.
https://i.imgur.com/7LaEqcg.jpg
That seems so significant that I felt I should post a transcript, so it can easily be copied and quoted. This is verbatim. The English can of course be cleaned up just a little.
~~~
Today I spoke to a friend who flew in from England, his mother
works in a hospital in England as a nurse, the population there
vaccinated, he is anti-vaccine, his mother gave confirmation,
allegedly vaccinated ie. She issued the original document without
the vaccine received. Arriving in the country of origin he showed
this document at the airport, so he would not be quarantined.
Customs officers asked him to go through a device that now
displays body temperature at almost all airports. He passed, and
was told he was not vaccinated and his confirmation was invalid, as
the vaccine contains heavy metals, and they could immediately see
if a person was vaccinated! My friend, the chemist, corrects me and
says that it's not heavy metals, it's radiation.. And how can you “
friend ” all of that with your DNA..... oh good question... it's
impossible to forge confirmation.. After the vaccine you have to be
“ visible “ on devices for them!!! Those are not heavy metals, but
radioactive ones. They don't excrete from the body and " shine “ on
devices.
So are people being injected with some sort of radioactive substance? Or is this the luciferase glow that is being picked up? Could this be in the nanos which are then activated by frequencies? There are far more questions than answers with this.
We'll never know, because the ingredients are secret. So eat your organic food, take your expensive supplements, and we'll inject you with our mystery vax!
wondering
7th April 2021, 12:03
Constance, In regard to your not spending time with anyone who has had the vaccine....in my life that is utterly impossible, unless I simply stayed in the house, had groceries delivered, did medical appointment virtually, did not interact with my neighbors or family, not take my husband to PT, (my husband received physical therapy yesterday from someone who has had the vaccine), etc. In the past year I have seen almost no one. The two people I am likeliest to see, my closest friends, have both had the vaccine. I see them when I can, they both live at a distance. I am desperate for their companionship.
I think we don't know if anything is shed from the injections, possibly, but so be it. I am not in total control of what will happen to me. Are you the person who said that what happens to you is none of your business? It may have been someone else. Good for you if you can pull this off....not realistic for me. I understand that you were not suggesting everyone should do so, we vary vastly in our circumstances. Just a contrasting scenario from someone who lives outside a large US city. ✌️ Diane
RunningDeer
7th April 2021, 17:43
Over this last year or so, I've spent a great deal of time researching these experimental jabs and listening to expert advice and the upshot is, people are potentially shedding whatever is in these jabs and creating other unknown consequences for everyone.
So as of early last week, I decided that I can no longer spend time with anyone who has had these experimental vaccines.
I encourage anyone else who is conscious around these vaccines to also make a conscious decision about how they are going to move forward so that we can defend this life on earth.
I’ll still continue to see most of my siblings even if they’ve gotten the jab. The visits are infrequent as it is with the Covid lock down.
This past weekend, Sibling #7 texted me a picture of him in line for the jab. My heart sunk into my stomach. There were lines of cars. He lives in California. My hope was that he’d get out of line when I texted him back that I’m skipping the vaccine after all my research. I wished him Godspeed and love.
I didn’t go into details because it was clear that he and his wife were going ahead with it. I was concerned about creating fear and negative programing. He’s 57, in fairly good shape, never smoked and drinks very little. Fingers crossed that’ll give him an edge.
I’ve already lost Sibling #8 years ago and my parents. Most of my siblings are unhealthy due to lifestyle choices. Even without the experimental biological MRNA gene jab, I’ve accepted that there’s a good chance that I’ll bury all of them. It’s been the running joke in my family. (I’m Sibling #2.)
In the last several years, I’ve made a conscious decisions to not engage a couple of siblings. The rage and gas lighting has exponentially increased. I suspect that when they get the jab, their light will continue to lessen. Their fading 3D world will eventually be no more.
5D earth is open for business for the adventurous.
.........................http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/world.gif
Sue (Ayt)
7th April 2021, 17:52
Often my loved ones make it extra trying to hold my tongue.
But I tell myself, done is done, and I will continue to love them, of course.
It's hard.
46525
pyrangello
7th April 2021, 18:36
246 Fully Vaccinated Michigan Residents Test Positive for COVID, With 3 Dead
https://21stcenturywire.com/2021/04/07/246-fully-vaccinated-michigan-residents-test-positive-for-covid-with-three-dead
April 7, 2021 By NEWS WIRE
This week, public health officials in the state of Michigan have revealed that at least 246 residents have tested positive for COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated. At least three of them have also died since recently receiving their vaccine.
So my gut tells me the virus is mutating and going around this experimental vaccine figuring out a way to survive. There are bunches of several strains out there , some docs fear a super strain being created from this existing virus that has a 99% survival rate. That has yet to be determined. Problem 1 was there was 115 billion dollars allocated for this vaccine, money, greed, ah whats a few million dead? Problem 2 the flu has a yearly shot every year that is 10-60% effective depending on how much it has mutated. Covid is a flu, this is a virus , and we've never found a cure for this. Which brings us back to experimental shot that by the way doesn't pay life insurance until after the first year you got it why? because its experimental ding ding ding, bells going off yet. And as a bonus we all get to know ALL THE ANIMALS TESTED WITH THIS Shot died , some not right away , some months later cardiac and liver issues. I've heard of 3 people dying in the last month. One guy just retired at age 63, was brushing his teeth and never said a word and left the earth. He just built a million dollar home on the lake with his wife. And yes he had the shot prior too. Yes its a great experiment but I predict with 1/3 of the US population now vaccinated we will be hitting the point of all the volunteers who want to be jabbed, have been and will be tough to expand from there.
Arcturian108
7th April 2021, 19:58
Here's a good video of a medical doctor talking truth to power to the Lt. Governor of Idaho and some legislators:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA-fTaGadyc
Constance
7th April 2021, 20:57
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TomKat
7th April 2021, 22:45
There are so many credible reports of people having severe side effects including death, and so many more reports of people I know who had the vax and had no problems, that I wonder if they've started using placebos. If the goal is to institute a global police state based on vaccination, they can't have people dropping like flies. So the next best thing to having a vaccinated population could be a population believing in the vaccine and afraid of the unvaccinated. If my hypothesis is correct, we will see no more deaths, and especially no more celebrity deaths.
Bill Ryan
7th April 2021, 22:50
There are so many credible reports of people having severe side effects including death, and so many more reports of people I know who had the vax and had no problems, that I wonder if they've started using placebos.It seems very possible, according to some immunologists who have been willing to speak out, that the new 'pandemic' of delayed but serious auto-immune responses may kick in, with a slow burn, later this year. Widespread vaccine damage might only be just beginning.
TomKat
8th April 2021, 03:29
It is important to discourage people from getting the vaccine, so that the unvaccinated don't become a small minority. That is part of the plan, as revealed by Dr. Day in 1969. To eliminate home ownership they have to move the majority to small apartments so there is no sympathy for homeowners' houses being confiscated.
https://100777.com/nwo/barbarians#33
"Privately owned housing would become a thing of the past. The cost of housing and financing housing would gradually be made so high that most people couldn't afford it. People who already owned their houses would be allowed to keep them but as years go by it would be more and more difficult for young people to buy a house. Young people would more and more become renters, particularly in apartments or condominiums. More and more unsold houses would stand vacant. People just couldn't buy them. But the cost of housing would not come down. You'd right away think, well the vacant house, the price would come down, the people would buy it. But there was some statement to the effect that the price would be held high even though there were many available so that free market places would not operate. People would not be able to buy these and gradually more and more of the population would be forced into small apartments. Small apartments which would not accommodate very many children. Then as the number of real home-owners diminished they would become a minority. There would be no sympathy for them from the majority who dwelled in the apartments and then these homes could be taken by increased taxes or other regulations that would be detrimental to home ownership and would be acceptable to the majority. Ultimately, people would be assigned where they would live and it would be common to have non-family members living with you. This by way of your not knowing just how far you could trust anybody. This would all be under the control of a central housing authority. Have this in mind in 1990 when they ask, "How many bedrooms in your house? How many bathrooms in your house? Do you have a finished game room?." This information is personal and is of no national interest to government under our existing Constitution. But you'll be asked those questions and decide how you want to respond to them."
Sue (Ayt)
8th April 2021, 03:52
There are so many credible reports of people having severe side effects including death, and so many more reports of people I know who had the vax and had no problems, that I wonder if they've started using placebos.It seems very possible, according to some immunologists who have been willing to speak out, that the new 'pandemic' of delayed but serious auto-immune responses may kick in, with a slow burn, later this year. Widespread vaccine damage might only be just beginning.
Also, this post by Gwin Ru (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114088-Dr-Lee-Merritt-The-vaccine-is-preparing-the-world-for-a-mass-death-event&p=1420595&viewfull=1#post1420595) is alarming, with the possibility of the rna protein code initiating prions in the brain down the line.
Blastolabs
8th April 2021, 15:42
After a few weeks the vaccines DO seem to produce enough antibodies that they do prevent covid to some degree.
The problem is that in the time while the antibodies are ramping up after getting vaccine people are susceptible to ADE, also known as enhanced disease.
Then is 4-8 months when the vaccine induced antibodies begin to wane people will again be more susceptible to ADE.
There are dozens of studies that have looked at this issue with other corona virus vaccines although I've only found one study that looked at these current vaccines and ADE.
Three of this studies authors hold Sars-Cov-2 vaccine patents and the study was run non blind and non randomized. Oh yes Moderna also provided funding for the study.
I don't think I even need to say this but they, "Found that ADE is not an issue with these vaccines.
I have got to hand it to the sociopaths this is an extremely well thought out plan, considering most deaths will be delayed by up to 6 months. They also have plausible deniability because it's not the vaccines that have the issues but the virus itself.
I am still kind of in shock that some how so many Americans feel it is normal and safe to participate in an experimental vaccine trial.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5
Gracy
8th April 2021, 16:08
Over this last year or so, I've spent a great deal of time researching these experimental jabs and listening to expert advice and the upshot is, people are potentially shedding whatever is in these jabs and creating other unknown consequences for everyone.
So as of early last week, I decided that I can no longer spend time with anyone who has had these experimental vaccines.
Heya Constance, just wondering if you could delve a little into how exactly people are "potentially shedding whatever is in these jabs".
avid
8th April 2021, 16:16
Sorry, just had to research ADE, and was horrified that this implies these fake ‘vaccines’ include a ‘trojan horse’ potential ghastly open-door to very nasty infections/viruses months later. We shall soon see the results of all this in a couple of months as more jabbed folk succumb to illnesses, and die.
I know loads of folk are dying after the second jab as their immune system just can’t cope any more, they are usually old, weak, and already compromised.
Tintin posted a major report earlier which was explicit defining the roadmap of expected casualties.
Still keeping my head below the parapet of jab persuasives, until perhaps the fallout becomes obvious. Even more variant jabs now being introduced here...
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114457-Internal-Vaccination-Passports-for-the-UK&p=1420763&viewfull=1#post1420763
meat suit
8th April 2021, 17:55
https://www.rt.com/news/520459-echr-czech-mandatory-vaccines/
Mandatory vaccines are ‘necessary in democratic society,’ don’t infringe human rights, EU court rules
Making children get jabs for common diseases is ‘necessary in democratic society’ and is in their best interests, the European Court for Human Rights (ECHR) ruled on Thursday in a landmark decision against anti-vaxxers.
It’s the first time the ECHR has ruled on mandatory vaccinations for children against common diseases. While the case dealt with the Czech Republic’s laws that require schoolchildren to have jabs against diseases like whooping cough, tetanus and measles, it has implications when it comes to compulsory Covid jabs.
mountain_jim
8th April 2021, 19:44
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/993/865/original/a1f86141f698ab81.jpg
Where does it start, I ask myself.
I'm writing up on another thread, my perception that it begins with weakening the response from mothers, both legal and vocal, against the attacks on their immune systems and the immunity they give their children, by any medical or political system refusing to recognize their RIGHT to pass on the strength without attacking their children with poisons. From the very beginning, the entire human genome has created it's primal and proven strengths in the womb. This refusal to recognize the rights of all humanity starts with those systems that dare to impose their agenda on mothers.
On to this topic....
"From my research you are most at risk while the vaccine induced antibodies are below their full level.
Meaning the two weeks after the vaccine and then again on 4-8 months as the vaccine wears off.
This is when ADE antibody dependent enhanced disease can occur.
The vaccines do seem to prevent severe covid while that are working to their full potential.
But decades of coronavirus research has shown that ADE is an issue once the neutralizing antibodies wane and you still have the binding antibodies which actually aid the virus in enter your cells and replicating."
The injection creates another disease of dependence.
In case anyone is completely ignorant of the functioning of the modern medical industry, their primary reason for existence is eliminating those people it finds not profit-creating and by injuring those they can profit from.
The challenge is why anyone would completely forsake the long history of the natural immune strength that lives within humanity, developed over eons of exposure to constant stresses, providing almost entirely by a mother's immune system while pregnant and nursing and strengthened during each successive lifetime, even with the genetic insertions and extractions other species have made.
In the broader scope of the specific, planned attack that the experimental, symptom-reducing-only injection, not a vaccine at all, causing a dangerous immune response, the industrial and honest description of all those KNOWN reactions is called a "gain of function". It is inaccurate to limit the use of the phrase "gain of function" to the asserted, military created bioweapons when those who have created all of the vaccines in the last decades have purposely known of the deaths and injuries, the chronic illnesses they have created. Assuming that such a long planned attack on the lives and quality of lives of many is anything else, is a trained, willfully ignorant response.
The reason that restricted, high level 4 laboratories stopped working with ebola when scientists at those labs began to get violently ill or die, was the recognition that they should not be studied anywhere, at any time. However, their name, a name which should be applied to almost all inoculations due to the inhumane nature of their study, creation and release, tells us that their mere study alone defines the purpose of their existence.
The 'gain', of the negative health results upon it's 'function', is to injure and kill. The uncontested existence of these studies, known by a variety of names not connected with the truth of their real function for over a century, is proof of the criminal intent that has required the silence of every single, compliant scientist, manufacturer and advertiser to be complicit in the their existence and deployment.
Their gain is not for the health of humans. If that was the case then we should also assume that the scientists hold the disproven BELIEF that germ theory is based on the survival and healthy genomic advances of the species and not the proven gain of profit and control, nor the gain of creating a sickly population that feeds the pharmaceutical, medical and health industries worldwide, as it is.
Your bioethicists are the ones providing the unethical "ethics" that condone the use of those bioweapons. They change the narrative and the public perception of the immoral creation of the pathogenic weapons called vaccines. Calling any dangerous pathogen, grown anywhere, a "gain of function" defines the entirety of it's creation as the bioweapon it is. If vaccines would be the healthy alternative to all that makes life a co-created endeavor, then they would not be filled with poisonous additives, adjuvants, nor created in cross-species cultures that hide within their mix the deadly pathogens that are the great co-creators of most modern, chronic illnesses.
Only the very few virologists, geneticists, immunologists and biochemists who have challenged the criminal, the genocidal study, creation and use of dangerous bioweapons have the right to be considered human. When a university or an advanced laboratory tells it's scientists, it's workers that they are studying lethal pathogens in order to counter their possible creation and release by an enemy, I ask how f'n stupid does anyone have to be to go along with that lie, while not recognizing that those funding and guiding the creation of those bioweapons have used them and will use them against anyone, anywhere that suites their agenda?
In the life of any species it's survival depends entirely on the power and strength of it's immune systems to adapt and successfully overcome external stressors in order to survive. We already know the proven health measures that enhance our healthy immune responses. Allowing pathogenic soup mixes to enter our systems runs contrary to the much more advanced immune responses our systems have naturally developed since their origin within all species.
Eating and drinking foods that provide nourishment to all organic functions is better than a synthetic stressor could ever be and they exist without side effects.
Exercising moderately to stress the system has proven to work, since the beginning. Living in positive, nurturing social spaces that lovingly challenge our perceptions and activities works.
Giving without desire, consciously improving the conditions of those we meet enhances our seemingly separate, yet truly connected, immune function.
Extending our energies to those in need, to revel in their increased ability to live independent of the charity of others is a proven 'shot in the arm' to our happiness, thus to our strengthened immune systems.
Watch the words abusers use and become aware of those hidden effects of word manipulations on your perceptions.
Decipher their use and call them out. It might even be helpful to recognize that the creation of words as methods of communicating has primarily been used to deceive humanity.
Know them for the limitations they hold on consciousness and allow your truth to use them for good. Know the bigger part of your being alive is not at all bound to the truth or abuse of words.
I see words as an original, artificial construct of human intelligence, a primal a.i........created by those beings who don't need them to communicate, nor need to use them amongst their own in order to communicate. What is the mechanism, one that is not beyond human capability, whereby another species can clearly communicate with humans telepathically?
TomKat
8th April 2021, 21:16
Johnson & Johnson is doing a bang-up job of discouraging people to take the vaccine:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthcare/colorado-vaccination-adverse-reactions-johnson-johnson
https://nypost.com/2021/03/30/mans-skin-peeled-off-in-reaction-to-johnson-johnson-covid-vax/
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=johnson+%26+johnson+vaccine+reaction+&atb=v213-1&ia=web
Constance
8th April 2021, 22:24
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Gracy
8th April 2021, 23:16
Over this last year or so, I've spent a great deal of time researching these experimental jabs and listening to expert advice and the upshot is, people are potentially shedding whatever is in these jabs and creating other unknown consequences for everyone.
So as of early last week, I decided that I can no longer spend time with anyone who has had these experimental vaccines.
Heya Constance, just wondering if you could delve a little into how exactly people are "potentially shedding whatever is in these jabs".
Hey Gracy May :flower:
I don't like to assume anything so before I respond to what you asked, I would firstly like to ask if you happened to have seen the Garth Nicholson video that I referred to in post #168? It might answer your question...
No Constance, I sure didn't. Just looking for a very brief synopsis from your research. :)
Delight
9th April 2021, 01:30
There are so many credible reports of people having severe side effects including death, and so many more reports of people I know who had the vax and had no problems, that I wonder if they've started using placebos.It seems very possible, according to some immunologists who have been willing to speak out, that the new 'pandemic' of delayed but serious auto-immune responses may kick in, with a slow burn, later this year. Widespread vaccine damage might only be just beginning.
Also, this post by Gwin Ru (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114088-Dr-Lee-Merritt-The-vaccine-is-preparing-the-world-for-a-mass-death-event&p=1420595&viewfull=1#post1420595) is alarming, with the possibility of the rna protein code initiating prions in the brain down the line.
It appears that the second jab is escalating negative responses. I saw some sad notices today of deaths. More Teachers, the young (who were not at risk for morbidity/mortality from "whatever it is"), many people.....
As we know, vaccines now are the leading cause of Coincidence.
As with some others who trumpeted their participation, this media personality is no longer with us coincidentally within weeks of receiving Pfizer's jab. It is unclear that she received a second dose. the family is asking for privacy. BUT, she did post 3/1/2021 about the shot. Then before her demise, she was apparently quite ill for several days as she stopped tweeting and had always been prolific before....
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Midwin Charles: 47-year-old MSNBC legal analyst dead one month after experimental mRNA shot
April 7, 2021 (https://thecovidblog.com/2021/04/07/midwin-charles-47-year-old-cnn-msnbc-legal-analyst-dead-one-month-after-experimental-mrna-shot/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=dddb74df2cf76945689b77c3c9181ab04b86b6d6-1617929249-0-AYi3KlfvYh-tEZ_WZRf482R5KuYU3q1Fap15ZWmUN2CRm7domBkzyqGCzjqUhnKndtSlNvn_Ccd8yvh-WivM4LUnI77diKFjXPm-LHdU_ekbwCGKVhg39sHdiXLTxrhw26gGEgDp9mnsGFfw0HhJyqIsSsNYgDxMPOJhsXrgWYj0lsA0kRifADT8blYebAFVW9mTB6-jWyckwAkTcQuYmt0_xOinLv9liwZDlQK9Ft9QTnnQBGFETUSNJ-nziCbc1DfjB9PW-Q3jNy-YYlqscE1pAKFbqxN-EcZFIXGm6pwg5_oeyiRJJu0UCBmL4ABQu3uFlY2bTBIoyFqWmCLPyEddB_uGEKRHDjFlFVHBwLQK4h-ZzzYfjMESfXXQgjsO9Ccdzm1HfhgPbU_M63u-emhAgOdNwseijNVg0Men_8ObpbVvGaW7Sj_V7sBxuKPiV6yJtMUV1aqP2sslEgQuL1HZxQoEnP0PBVdBA7IhAEqjAyYmFnjL7jyu ai5zD5TBmycfRauXdyWb4JV67R7H26Q)
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DO NOT LET YOUR MD COERCE YOU... they are maybe on the take?
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Constance
9th April 2021, 02:22
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9th April 2021, 03:41
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mountain_jim
9th April 2021, 15:06
https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
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RunningDeer
9th April 2021, 19:07
Germs, Genes & the War on Humanity
Fear is absolutely hijacking the critical thinking. Also it is the attention we give fear and not fear itself on its own expands it. Whatever we focus on, it expands, so we change our focus.
Where do we stand in terms of humanity as far as the immune system collective? How do we view it? And when did the change happen?
We measured to the immune collective. For the last 160-180 years our immunity has been at fear. And we actually noticed when the change occurred. So when we looked back into the year 1800. The human collective was at 200 which is the frequency of courage. Then something changed. So we decide to test the “germ theory” . The germ theory came about the year of 1865 and it is the frequency of fear which is 100. And this is exactly around the time when our human frequency collective has totally shifted into the fear mode.
https://i.imgur.com/paGm2Rs.jpg
Scalar readings on the 'v.a.c.c.i.n.3.s', Hunan Immune System Collective,
Hadza Tribe, Germ and Terrain theory frequencies and more.
Soul Frequency Show with Sacha Stone, Elena Bensonoff and Alejandro Ferradas
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Elena Bensonoff: The scale of consciousness that a Elena Bensonoff and Alejandro from wholistic.com (https://www.wholistic.com)
Frequency readings & vibrational revelations videos found at:
Wholistic, Elena Bensonoff YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/c/WholisticElenaBensonoff3/videos)
Bitchute (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/WSQoZ8IVwbiF/) - Some of Elena and Alejandro’s vids are found on Sacha’s site.
Sacha Stone YouTube Another YouTube take d-o-w-n .
http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/rant.gif
See graphics at the bottom for the scale which is 1-1000 and the percentages is 0-100%. You can calibrate people, objects, sacred sites, foods, plants, planets, countries, states, etc. Dr. David R. Hawkins was one of the pioneers in kinesiology (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?96140-Power-vs-Force-and-Kinesiology-by-David-R.-Hawkins&p=1135492&viewfull=1#post1135492). This couple has expanded upon it.
Elena Bensonoff: The scale of consciousness that a lot of us that references is ”Dr. Hawkins Scale of Consciousness”. That's the only thing we use as a reference and it applies to human experience.
…The quantum physics and quantum mechanics of the universe is the fractal patterns that exist and the universe is not linear but it is fractal. So awareness builds on awareness.
The immunity system collective of this tribe lives in absolute harmony with each other and with their environment. They are revealing the key and inspiration to all of us to learning something from them.
https://i.imgur.com/Onu0bza.jpg
Other Human Immune System Collective in 2021:
@ 22:18 - Ikaria - 350
@ 24:09 - Blue Zone - 200
@ 25:07 - Amish - 100
@ 28:33 - Vegans - 100
Sasha - This is a markedly unimpressive number of 100. What do you make of it?
Elena - Ultimately, I would say that diet should be customizes, personalized to each individual. There’s no one thing that works for anyone even if the frequency is high. I would say everything should be tested. But maybe at the root, there’s fear. This is why certain groups follow certain restrictive diets out of fear.
@ 30:52 - Jehova’s Witness - 200
@ 33:33 - Scientology - 200
@ 35:03 - Hepatitis B Vaccine - 100
@ 37:40 - MMR vaccine - 110
@ 38:17 - DPT - 50
Anything from a frequency of 20 or below is destruction of life. Whether it’s destruction of cells or organs systems., whatever it is, the meaning behind it is destruction. The shots have one thing in common which is the frequency of 50. It represents manipulation. It is to manipulate the blue print.
Covid 19 “vaccine” categories:
shot 1
shot 2
impacts on the human energy field
impact on human body
alignment with Divine purpose
alignment with Company’s mission
integrity
transparency
@ 43:51 - Moderna - 20
@ 46:34 - Astra Zeneca - 55
@ 47:53 - Johnson & Johnson - 50
@ 49:06 - Covishield - 50
@ 50:48 - Covaxin 20
@ 50:51 - Sputnik V - 50
@ 52:25 - Sinovac - 50
@ 54:13 - Pfizer - 55
@ 54:51 - Sinopharm - 55
@ 56:01 - Influenza Vaccine - 50
@ 59:50 - Procedures
https://i.imgur.com/joqfErb.jpg
@1:03:56 - theories
https://i.imgur.com/e0jwrH4.jpg
@ 1:04:53 - Comments and Questions
@ 1:09:13 - By way of comparison = Humans 230 vs Alpha Centaurians 7,000 (topic covered in other shows (https://www.youtube.com/c/WholisticElenaBensonoff3/videos))
https://i.imgur.com/ULWwkYm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yvacdhX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Oe4JkZa.jpg
pyrangello
9th April 2021, 21:41
Michigan reports 7,834 new COVID-19 cases, 26 deaths, 25% of people 16+ fully vaccinated
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/michigan-reports-7834-new-covid-19-cases-26-deaths-25-25-of-people-16-2b-fully-vaccinated/ar-BB1fu8Vb
So after reading some of the previous posts about the experimental vaccine shedding the virus, the only logical explanation for all these people testing having the covid could very well be because of the people getting the experimental jab and being around other people. Now the 1 million question is how long does the shedding process last once someone is jabbed????????????
With only 25 deaths for the number confirmed with covid, none of this makes sense now.
RunningDeer
9th April 2021, 23:58
What happens energetically after the C vaccination?
Transcript @ 39:20 from post above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1421060&viewfull=1#post1421060) and also on Gab @Evolve_to_Ecology (https://gab.com/Evolve_to_Ecology/posts/105988209247511277).
"A message from France - the experience of a French energetic healer:
What happens in the energy bodies and especially in your soul after the "vaccination"?
Experience of a therapist who has been working for many years with energy, with energy healing, with the subtle bodies, but above all with the light radiation and the frequency of the vibration of the heart, the seat of our soul, in order to achieve deep contact with the higher self .
"I was having a session with a person who was receiving the first and second doses of the vaccine. I had already energetically treated that person, but I didn't know they had taken the vaccine. When I started treatment, I noticed immediately the change, very heavy energy emanating from their subtle bodies. The scariest thing was when I was working on the heart chakra, I connected with her soul, so she was detached from the physical body, she had no contact and it was, as if she was floating in a state of total confusion, damage to the consciousness that loses contact with the physical part, i.e. with our biological machine, there is no longer any communication between them.
During the treatment, this soul told me that it no longer felt the body and had the impression of floating in a deep discomfort. The energy with which I worked, the energy of its energy field, was very heavy and you could feel these substances, which are very stressful for the subtle bodies.
I continued the treatment by sending light to the heart chakra, the soul of the person, but it seemed that the soul could no longer receive any light, frequency or energy. It was a very powerful experience for me.
Then I understood that this substance is indeed used to detach consciousness so that this consciousness can no longer interact through this body that it possesses in life, where there is no more contact, no frequency, no light, no more energetic balance or mind. Then I started crying for that soul because it was something that touched me deeply, a very powerful experience. I didn't say anything to the person because I didn't know how to say it or whether they would have understood.
I realized that it not only pollutes the subtle body or the physical body, but that it is something that has to do with our soul. The purpose is to damage contact with consciousness and try to destroy it. What Steiner said is exactly that. It's not just about compromising the immune system.
Update - Second treatment of the person
There was another change, and again a deterioration, both in severity and in the energy that her energy field transmits, but most importantly, there was a very marked decrease in frequency. He is currently not showing any physical symptoms on the physical body. As for the situation that manifests itself on the energetic level and especially on the soul, it has been confirmed that the soul has been expelled from the physical body, it is still tied by the so-called cord, but it confirms that it is not interacts more with the physical, emotional and mental body, there is no more type of communication. The soul is no longer able to manage these three bodies, to continue its incarnation and evolution process, precisely because this contact has been interrupted. “
* Natalie Schaevers
https://i.imgur.com/PoJqJD1.jpg
UPDATE:
My (Paula/RunningDeer) personal feeling is if one’s frequency vibrates in the higher zones, they’re able to overcome most all in the 3D world. I don’t speak about it because naysayers can be dismissive, insists on proof and/or negate what is truth for those open to the possibilities and have experiences beyond this concrete 3D matrix.
This is Elena and Alejandro’s follow up to what the healers wrote @ 43:54 (https://youtu.be/A6mX8MLI1r0?t=2634):
Elena: Alejandro and I actually tested a couple of people who have been vaccinated. We did not see the drop in frequencies, but I would say this: “What we would usually look into there's other different aspects to look into before the frequency is manifested. So as far as frequency, we did not notice a shift. But I’m sure from a meridian perspective and the chakra layers. This is something we need to address.
Alejandro: That also could be caused by inflammation in the body even before one gets vaccinated. Where the inflammation causes energetic blockages that prevents or slow down the flow of life force or the chi. So you could feel as if you're being disconnected from the soul. Which I feel is not possible. I could feel that is happening, but that is not the case.
Elena: We’ll have to go deeper and look into many cases and of course give the report as well.
Alejandro: And it also has a lot to do with pre-existing conditions too. So it's on a one-on-one basis. An individual basis.
Delight
10th April 2021, 01:29
Transcript @ 39:20 from post above and also on Gab @Evolve_to_Ecology.
"A message from France - the experience of a French energetic healer:
What happens in the energy bodies and especially in your soul after the "vaccination"?
Experience of a therapist who has been working for many years with energy, with energy healing, with the subtle bodies, but above all with the light radiation and the frequency of the vibration of the heart, the seat of our soul, in order to achieve deep contact with the higher self .
"I was having a session with a person who was receiving the first and second doses of the vaccine. I had already energetically treated that person, but I didn't know they had taken the vaccine. When I started treatment, I noticed immediately the change, very heavy energy emanating from their subtle bodies. The scariest thing was when I was working on the heart chakra, I connected with her soul, so she was detached from the physical body, she had no contact and it was, as if she was floating in a state of total confusion, damage to the consciousness that loses contact with the physical part, i.e. with our biological machine, there is no longer any communication between them.
During the treatment, this soul told me that it no longer felt the body and had the impression of floating in a deep discomfort. The energy with which I worked, the energy of its energy field, was very heavy and you could feel these substances, which are very stressful for the subtle bodies.
I continued the treatment by sending light to the heart chakra, the soul of the person, but it seemed that the soul could no longer receive any light, frequency or energy. It was a very powerful experience for me.
Then I understood that this substance is indeed used to detach consciousness so that this consciousness can no longer interact through this body that it possesses in life, where there is no more contact, no frequency, no light, no more energetic balance or mind. Then I started crying for that soul because it was something that touched me deeply, a very powerful experience. I didn't say anything to the person because I didn't know how to say it or whether they would have understood.
I realized that it not only pollutes the subtle body or the physical body, but that it is something that has to do with our soul. The purpose is to damage contact with consciousness and try to destroy it. What Steiner said is exactly that. It's not just about compromising the immune system.
Update - Second treatment of the person
There was another change, and again a deterioration, both in severity and in the energy that her energy field transmits, but most importantly, there was a very marked decrease in frequency. He is currently not showing any physical symptoms on the physical body. As for the situation that manifests itself on the energetic level and especially on the soul, it has been confirmed that the soul has been expelled from the physical body, it is still tied by the so-called cord, but it confirms that it is not interacts more with the physical, emotional and mental body, there is no more type of communication. The soul is no longer able to manage these three bodies, to continue its incarnation and evolution process, precisely because this contact has been interrupted. “
* Natalie Schaevers
If this is true then it is horrific. It makes no sense to me at all. It is not possible for me to take someone's observation and ascribe any general idea to it. I now tend to suspect I am living in the 4th dimension where every possible idea can simultaneously exist. Thoughts are things...I will decline this one.
RunningDeer
10th April 2021, 02:28
If this is true then it is horrific. It makes no sense to me at all. It is not possible for me to take someone's observation and ascribe any general idea to it. I now tend to suspect I am living in the 4th dimension where every possible idea can simultaneously exist. Thoughts are things...I will decline this one.
Note: I added this update above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1421097&viewfull=1#post1421097).
I’ve been working on & updating this post and the same on another thread. I just added part of the transcript about Vegans @ 28:33. I'm finally getting this specific part of the transcript.
My (Paula/RunningDeer) personal feeling is if one’s frequency vibrates in the higher zones, they’re able to overcome most all in the 3D world. I don’t speak about it because naysayers can be dismissive, insists on proof and/or negate what is truth for those open to the possibilities and have experiences beyond this concrete 3D matrix.
This is Elena and Alejandro’s follow up to what the healer wrote @ 43:54 (https://youtu.be/A6mX8MLI1r0?t=2634):
Elena: Alejandro and I actually tested a couple of people who have been vaccinated. We did not see the drop in frequencies, but I would say this: “What we would usually look into there's other different aspects to look into before the frequency is manifested. So as far as frequency, we did not notice a shift. But I’m sure from a meridian perspective and the chakra layers. This is something we need to address.
Alejandro: That also could be caused by inflammation in the body even before one gets vaccinated. Where the inflammation causes energetic blockages that prevents or slow down the flow of life force or the chi. So you could feel as if you're being disconnected from the soul. Which I feel is not possible. I could feel that is happening, but that is not the case.
Elena: We’ll have to go deeper and look into many cases and of course give the report as well.
Alejandro: And it also has a lot to do with pre-existing conditions too. So it's on a one-on-one basis. An individual basis.
Andre
10th April 2021, 04:10
If this is true then it is horrific. It makes no sense to me at all. It is not possible for me to take someone's observation and ascribe any general idea to it. I now tend to suspect I am living in the 4th dimension where every possible idea can simultaneously exist. Thoughts are things...I will decline this one.
Note: I added this update above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1421097&viewfull=1#post1421097).
I’ve been working on & updating this post and on another thread since 12:30 pm which is almost 10 hours ago. I just added part of the transcript about Vegans @ 28:33. I'm finally getting this specific part of the transcript.
My (Paula/RunningDeer) personal feeling is if one’s frequency vibrates in the higher zones, they’re able to overcome most all in the 3D world. I don’t speak about it because naysayers can be dismissive, insists on proof and/or negate what is truth for those open to the possibilities and have experiences beyond this concrete 3D matrix.
But if someone is "vibrating in the higher zone", surely they would not be attracted to a vaccination which clearly has to be of a very, very low frequency, although I have read accounts of some who eat meat or smoke cigarettes to help keep themselves on the Earth plane. Personally, I find the French healer's account extremely possible and highly likely. It will be interesting to see if more accounts like this come forward. It certainly is tragic if true.
Delight
10th April 2021, 04:35
But if someone is "vibrating in the higher zone", surely they would not be attracted to a vaccination which clearly has to be of a very, very low frequency, although I have read accounts of some who eat meat or smoke cigarettes to help keep themselves on the Earth plane. Personally, I find the French healer's account extremely possible and highly likely. It will be interesting to see if more accounts like this come forward. It certainly is tragic if true.
This calls to question what is meant by all these words. To the extent that our "eyes" play tricks on us, how should I receive the declarations of someone who sees energy when I am not even sure what this means?
IMO the whole "shootin match" of this war against us (which I think is 100% real) will call in every single kind of demoralization... keyed to fit the "type" given the message. Is this healer or any of the healers quoted (AND WHO ARE THESE PERSONS) RELIABLE SOURCES? Why does the DOOm go viral? Please show me ONE Kirlean photo indicating the aura has DONE "whatever" is claimed.
I wonder what it is about the story line that makes it so attractive?
I ask WHY should one assume it is "extremely possible and highly likely"?
Extreme claims and all that.....
I agree with Paula and also you. High vibe would be able to withstand but just would not take it because WHY would they knowing the truth? It seems to me that if people are doing ANYTHING out of fear, that is low vibe and they will be in the soup of the collective vibe of disease, fear and suffering.
I know at least one person who feels she could be injected with anything and it would not harm her. She would only receive it with a gun to her head but she would if she must. I know another who is extremely self sacrificing and took it so her mother would be happy. She has already devoted her last 10 years to care of her parents.
It stands for something so important TO ME about health freedom that I 100% refuse. Also, honestly I am not convinced I am invincible to poisons.
onawah
10th April 2021, 05:55
More about Steiner's prediction here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102135-Dark-Journalist-Joseph-Farrell-UFO-X-Factor-Black-Budget-Secret-Space-Network-16-March-2018&p=1383815&viewfull=1#post1383815
Rawhide68
10th April 2021, 06:13
I had a conversation with my 83-year-old mom yesterday, trying to explain to her that this covid vaccin is not a vaccin it's an exprimental gene therapy shot you'll have.
Good luck with that, at least I tryed.
Poor mom
Maybe this was not the correct "vaccine"" forum for this, so sorry for that.
Matthew
10th April 2021, 10:18
I had a conversation with my 83-year-old mom yesterday, trying to explain to her that this covid vaccin is not a vaccin it's an exprimental gene therapy shot you'll have.
Good luck with that, at least I tryed.
Poor mom
Maybe this was not the correct "vaccine"" forum for this, so sorry for that.
I'm surprised how many don't realise it's not a traditional vaccine, and doesn't contain covid, doesn't give you mini-covid, and the bad feeling after a vaccination is not mild covid.
Obedience has been abused by our politicians. We've been fast-talked. This isn't science, it's a sales and marketing drive laced with fear PsyOps.
Well meaning people are full of kool-aid. What actually works to convince them? Telling doesn't work, independent reports don't work, standing in front of them waving both arms saying "HELLO?" doesn't work. The next thing after that would be doing a great dance, waving flag-banners and a big hat with a slogan but that wouldn't work either.
The trusting and sometimes opinionated people who are vaccinated are my friends and family and they KNOW they are right because a history of medical science can't be wrong. Obedience has been abused by our politicians, some will never wake up but others will twig and have a disconcerting journey ahead of them
But that said, here's a good blog imho - seems blue pill compatible. We struggle on and my arms ache waving the flags
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
Christian Elliot
16 min read
https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine
A few friends have asked my thoughts the covid jab(s) so I thought it was time to write an article on the topic.
All my friends had not heard most of the details I shared, so I figured you might appreciate hearing some of what I told them.
Knowing how contentious this issue is, part of me would rather just write about something else, but I feel like the discussion/news is so one-sided that I should speak up.
As I always strive to do, I promise to do my best to be level-headed and non-hysterical.
I'm not here to pick a fight with anyone, just to walk you through some of what I've read, my lingering questions, and explain why I can't make sense of these covid vaccines.
...
RunningDeer
10th April 2021, 11:22
Thanks for the reminder, Matthew. I downloaded it, but haven't had a chance to read it. Mountain_Jim posted it above (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1421008&viewfull=1#post1421008) as well.
Reposts & bumps help the thread skimmers AND the pages move so quickly. http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/laugh-big-smile-teeth.gif
I'm surprised how many don't realise it's not a traditional vaccine, and doesn't contain covid, doesn't give you mini-covid, and the bad feeling after a vaccination is not mild covid.
Obedience has been abused by our politicians. We've been fast-talked. This isn't science, it's a sales and marketing drive laced with fear PsyOps.
Well meaning people are full of kool-aid. What actually works to convince them? Telling doesn't work, independent reports don't work, standing in front of them waving both arms saying "HELLO?" doesn't work. The next thing after that would be doing a great dance, waving flag-banners and a big hat with a slogan but that wouldn't work either.
The trusting and sometimes opinionated people who are vaccinated are my friends and family and they KNOW they are right because a history of medical science can't be wrong. Obedience has been abused by our politicians, some will never wake up but others will twig and have a disconcerting journey ahead of them
But that said, here's a good blog imho - seems blue pill compatible. We struggle on and my arms ache waving the flags
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
Christian Elliot
16 min read
https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine
A few friends have asked my thoughts the covid jab(s) so I thought it was time to write an article on the topic.
All my friends had not heard most of the details I shared, so I figured you might appreciate hearing some of what I told them.
Knowing how contentious this issue is, part of me would rather just write about something else, but I feel like the discussion/news is so one-sided that I should speak up.
As I always strive to do, I promise to do my best to be level-headed and non-hysterical.
I'm not here to pick a fight with anyone, just to walk you through some of what I've read, my lingering questions, and explain why I can't make sense of these covid vaccines.
...
pyrangello
10th April 2021, 11:29
What I did with my parents and friends is copy and print clips from different threads here on Avalon, like the updated lists of injuries and deaths here in the States and Europe, also some explanations from doctors to found here on the forum. Even some of your comments. Even last night I stopped by to see my parents and reinforced there decision not to get these shots. They watch the news all the time. Problem with that is the media makes it seem like the majority of the population is drooling to get this when i,m thinking we are close to peaking out the ones that want to get this shot, it's not the majority and every time someone dies of this shot or really injured , at least 100 other people here about that. I've been told of 3 deaths in the last month in this area.people i,'ve never met but from other people I know. People talk, and not all are sheeple.
RunningDeer
10th April 2021, 12:35
What I did with my parents and friends is copy and print clips from different threads here on Avalon, like the updated lists of injuries and deaths here in the States and Europe, also some explanations from doctors to found here on the forum. Even some of your comments. Even last night I stopped by to see my parents and reinforced there decision not to get these shots. They watch the news all the time. Problem with that is the media makes it seem like the majority of the population is drooling to get this when i,m thinking we are close to peaking out the ones that want to get this shot, it's not the majority and every time someone dies of this shot or really injured , at least 100 other people here about that. I've been told of 3 deaths in the last month in this area.people i,'ve never met but from other people I know. People talk, and not all are sheeple.
My neighbor is retired and watches the shopping channels, the soaps, Dr. Phil and such until late in the night. She doesn’t have internet. I’ve shared information from Fox News when all the brouhaha broke out across the country and then the face masks and plandemic because she has access to it on TV.
I noticed a pattern where we get together, she repeats information I’ve shared as if it’s her own.
A few of weeks back, she asked if I’m getting the shot. I told her if they offered me a brand new car and home, I’d still say no. She went on to say that the doctor’s office keeps leaving her reminders to make an appointment because the slots are filled for the 70+ crowd and now there working the way down through the 50-60 year olds.
I said, if they offered me a million bucks to take the shot, I’d still decline.
A few days later, she said the nurse called and she didn’t know what to do. I suggest that she tell them they don’t need to call that she’ll call them to make an appointment. That’s when I sat down with her with my computer and showed some of the posts across the forum. The first was a 30 second video where students in Africa were jumping out the windows and off the second story balcony because officials had come to administer the Covid shot. Their parents had instructed them to leave and come home.
I showed her pictures of the effects on people that got the shot and articles that listed the contents of the vaccines. And how people with compromised systems like heart trouble are at a higher risk. She reminded me that she had a heart attack. (I knew. Shhh…)
I was careful not to overload her with a lot of info. I reiterated that you couldn’t pay me. If they put me in home lock-down until I take the shot, then so be it. I’ll purchased food on line.
She hasn’t mentioned one way or another. I’ve created the space for her to ask if and when.
It’s different with my siblings. Their walls are tall and thick. I’ve found that on a one-to-one visit they’re more apt to listen and comment. In a group setting, it’s peer pressure and subtle and not so subtle cowardly BS games.
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wondering
10th April 2021, 13:08
Pyrangello, I'm in lower Michigan very near big hospitals. I've heard from several people first hand about the large numbers in hospitals, "worse than it was in the beginning"... more fear and anxiety, as if we needed it. No idea if this is from shedding, variants, bad tests? I had my hair cut yesterday by someone who got the vaccine, had my bushes trimmed yesterday by someone who feels he is just getting over a mild case. I honestly forget I shouldn't be close to him, for example, although we were outside. I just have never thought I would get it. On and on...stay up North!! lol Diane
Ratszinger
10th April 2021, 16:20
Sticking with the details we can prove.....Are these synthetic mRNA jabs experimental? Yes.Have these synthetic mRNA jabs ever been used on humans before? No.Have they been safely tested on animals? No.Have they been subjected to medium or long-term safety testing? No.
Have the jabs been tested on people taking other medications? No.Is it possible that some adverse effects could be irreversible? Yes.Once the jab has been injected into me, can it be removed later? No.Will the jabs prevent me from getting coronavirus? No.
Will the jabs prevent me from spreading coronavirus? No.Will the jabs allow me to stop wearing a face covering? No.Do the jabs contain Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)? Yes.
Are the jabs FDA approved? Yes! This was rushed in using the EUA (emergency use authorization) which is the third time it's been used. This was done even knowing all the above.
Lastly. Gates is quoted as saying that vaccines will be good for population control, his foundations supports depopulation openly, and he is now buying up all the farmland in mid America, not to farm but to starve people because guaranteed he isn't going to be growing anything there anymore folks!
Sue (Ayt)
10th April 2021, 18:31
Are the jabs FDA approved? Yes! This was rushed in using the EUA (emergency use authorization) which is the third time it's been used. This was done even knowing all the above.
Actually, I think the answer to this one could be listed as No. They were approved for emergency use, but do not have full FDA approval, as explained Here (https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/emergency-use-authorization-fda-approval-vaccines-fact-check/65-7391e595-cee0-4a00-8468-194a6e0a21a4) by the FDA.
bettye198
11th April 2021, 17:05
How on earth can anyone eliminate the nanites in there that replicate? I cannot imagine any drug, supplement or concoction that is defense against A.I.
Old Student
13th April 2021, 16:53
Vaccines actually are a legally defined term … under public health law … under CDC and FDA standards, and a vaccine specifically has to stimulate both an immunity within the person receiving it, but it also has to disrupt transmission …
Don't know how old your information is, but both Pfizer and Moderna have been proven greater than 90% effective at disrupting transmission.
It is true that for regular clinical trials vaccines have to be proven to be safe and efficacious both against becoming sick and transmission. They were approved on emergency basis, and so the transmission part was relaxed. But they have since both been proven to be efficacious against transmission.
Not sure what your complaint is, we don't even know how long Covid-19 has been in existence and it is also a strand of RNA wrapped in a package.
Full disclosure -- I have had both shots of Moderna. I got sick after the second shot for several days, it would have only been for one day but I had complications.
Matthew
14th April 2021, 01:18
There is a rumour that Ireland has passed a law which will criminalise unvaccinated people mixing with vaccinated people in their own homes
https://twitter.com/Rainbowandsteel/status/1382088639438598144
@Rainbowandsteel
Ireland passed a law which will criminalise unvaccinated people mixing with vaccinated people in their own homes https://gov.ie/en/collection/1f150-view-statutory-instruments-related-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/
10:49 pm · 13 Apr 2021
I don't follow Irish politics, but saw this on twitter. Does anyone follow Irish politics closely enough to know if this is true?
Somebody asked them to clarify their tweet in the comments and they responded with this:
Go to the S.I. No. 168 doc - go to pages 11-13, various restrictions eg "the event is attended only by vaccinated persons"
source: comment tweet (https://twitter.com/Rainbowandsteel/status/1382108803173351426)
I suspect it is true, but there's always hoping it's not
Andre
14th April 2021, 09:12
Pyrangello, I'm in lower Michigan very near big hospitals. I've heard from several people first hand about the large numbers in hospitals, "worse than it was in the beginning"... more fear and anxiety, as if we needed it. No idea if this is from shedding, variants, bad tests? I had my hair cut yesterday by someone who got the vaccine, had my bushes trimmed yesterday by someone who feels he is just getting over a mild case. I honestly forget I shouldn't be close to him, for example, although we were outside. I just have never thought I would get it. On and on...stay up North!! lol Diane
Could those first hand accounts relate to vaccine injury cases rather than covid infections? And/or flu cases. I ask because there's strong evidence that hospitals overcrowded with covid cases is a total scam. And we also know that death stats around the world are showing there are no more flu deaths as these have been reclassified as covid. Several top scientist, including one of the top epidemiologists, Knut Wittkowski have asserted that, “Influenza has been renamed COVID-19 in large part.” And in the USA, according to the CDC, the cumulative positive influenza test rate from late September into the week of 19 December was just 0.2%, compared to 8.7% from a year before. So, bottom line is hospitals are classifying flu deaths (and lots of other cases with comorbidity factors as "covid cases". And let's not get into the financial incentives that some countries have introduced to do exactly this!
As for overcrowded hospitals, I recall a video of a bunch of Brazilian MPs who demanded access to one of the big hospitals there only to find the wards empty. I watched the video of an activist in the UK who went from hospital to hospital filming empty wards then got banned from going near any hospitals. And here are a series of articles that expose the scam of covid cases in hospitals based on just a five minute search and therefore just a small sample of what's out there if you look:
Houston, Texas to dismantle temp hospital that didn't see a single covid case https://principia-scientific.com/houston-tx-to-dismantle-17m-temp-hospital-that-didnt-see-a-single-patient/
Nurse exposes empty UK hospitals https://principia-scientific.com/whistleblower-nurse-exposes-empty-uk-hospital-fake-pandemic/
Exposing Nightingale's hospital scandal https://principia-scientific.com/exposing-britains-nightingale-hospital-scandal/
What really happened in Nightingale hospitals https://principia-scientific.com/revealed-what-really-happened-in-the-nightingale-hospitals/
Irish FOI request reveals hospitals were not strained in 2020 https://principia-scientific.com/irish-foi-data-release-proves-hospitals-were-not-strained-in-2020/
Government scientists expose covid hospital beds scam https://principia-scientific.com/scoop-govt-scientist-exposes-covid19-hospital-beds-scam/
wondering
14th April 2021, 12:33
Andre, It's frustrating to not have access to truth...people can't even visit loved ones in the hospital I'm referring to. I would love to have access to a few patient charts to see diagnoses, lab results, test results, etc., but of course that can't happen. I did hear from a friend here that a friend of hers in Florida, who is a nurse, is caring for a couple of patients with COVID who had received both vaccine doses..fairly credible info, but who really knows. I also think it would be very difficult to identify patients in with vaccine side effects - I'm guessing the language being used in the patient record is tightly controlled. I'm waiting for more people to find out that those who have been vaccinated are not protected as they thought they would be. Truly horrible.
Matthew
14th April 2021, 13:45
Nhs nurse speaks out
ap1A7ihzZsM
(source twitter) (https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1382327016226193408)
Blastolabs
14th April 2021, 15:07
Graph showing the last 10 years of adverse vaccine reactions reported to the CDC from all vaccines compared to adverse reactions reported following covid-19 vaccines in the past 4 months.
The Covid-19 data is a month old as there have now been 2500 deaths reported as of last Friday. Also keep in mind that the VAERS reports are between 4-6 weeks behind meaning we have not gotten any data from states where the vaccines are now allowed for anyone 16+
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You can read detailed reports of all 2500+ deaths on the CDC's website via the link below.
https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D8/D143F127
Tintin
14th April 2021, 16:53
Nhs nurse speaks out
ap1A7ihzZsM
(source twitter) (https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1382327016226193408)
There's no sound for the first 2m 18 seconds :facepalm:
EarthGirl
14th April 2021, 17:17
Well worth a listen to this episode, of note is the fact that the lady whistleblower relays what many thought in that most NHS employees are just following orders from "line management" and doing as they are told. She spoke to a consultant and a doctor who had both been "jabbed", neither of which had any idea that they were part of an experimental trail until 2023, or what the ingredients of it were....
Nhs nurse speaks out
ap1A7ihzZsM
(source twitter) (https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1382327016226193408)
There's no sound for the first 2m 18 seconds :facepalm:
Tintin
14th April 2021, 17:41
Well worth a listen to this episode, of note is the fact that the lady whistleblower relays what many thought in that most NHS employees are just following orders from "line management" and doing as they are told. She spoke to a consultant and a doctor who had both been "jabbed", neither of which had any idea that they were part of an experimental trail until 2023, or what the ingredients of it were....
Nhs nurse speaks out
ap1A7ihzZsM
(source twitter) (https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1382327016226193408)
There's no sound for the first 2m 18 seconds :facepalm:
:bump:
Okay, listening now. Wow.
My MP will hear from me citing this, and perhaps I'll write to the CCG as well.
This will be in the library pronto as soon as we can start uploading again, so its saved, as permanently as anything can be these days. Downloaded now :thumbsup:
araucaria
14th April 2021, 18:12
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...
I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.:confused:
Tintin
14th April 2021, 18:23
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...
I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.:confused:
I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off :facepalm: I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time :)
It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it :)
araucaria
14th April 2021, 18:30
I'm getting her now, but the glitch I caught has gone, and other glitches in testing my system have also been resolved. Very strange.
Matthew
14th April 2021, 18:53
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...
I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.:confused:
I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off :facepalm: I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time :)
It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it :)
When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/
araucaria
14th April 2021, 19:21
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...
I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.:confused:
I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off :facepalm: I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time :)
It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it :)
When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/
You don’t understand. As a test, I tried a personally bookmarked video which has nothing to do with the subject at hand: Miloslav Kabeláč’s Mystery Of Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxcD0mU9jo), which I like to listen to now and again. The link also stopped working... until it started again. In other words, the problem is at my end.
Matthew
14th April 2021, 19:27
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...
I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.:confused:
I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off :facepalm: I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time :)
It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it :)
When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/
You don’t understand. As a test, I tried a personally bookmarked video which has nothing to do with the subject at hand: Miloslav Kabeláč’s Mystery Of Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxcD0mU9jo), which I like to listen to now and again. The link also stopped working... until it started again. In other words, the problem is at my end.
I hear the same symptoms that Tintin described, with the audio out of sync. So from that, I conclude there must also be an issue with the video :thumbsup:
Tintin
14th April 2021, 20:42
UK Column News - April 14th 2021: NHS nurse testimony
The audio has now been fixed :highfive:
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UKC explainer:
"Since Youtube decided to mess up the audio sync when we snipped the countdoun timer off the front of the video using their editing tool, here's a re-upload."
EarthGirl
14th April 2021, 20:45
For anyone who can't watch the video for whatever reason here is the NHS whistleblowers words transcribed for anyone that may be interested. Brian from UK column insinuated that he has been contacted by lots more as well. x
(apologies for any typos)
Dear Brian as you can see from my photo ID I work for the NHS
Can I please ask that you and UK Column not reveal my identity, my job title, or the health board the I work for, as I am a senior nurse it is appropriate to refer to me as such.
I really cannot afford for my health board to be revealed as it would take no time for me to be identified and I have already been threatened with losing my job.
I report directly to the line manager who sits at executive level in my board and my card is already marked.
I am directly involved with the vaccination programme for my health board at senior nursing management level.
I am essentially a policy writer and I'm responsible for the prescribing documents for our health care staff to administer the jabs. They are not vaccine and as such I can't refer to them as is.
I have been in my current post, directly responsible for our vaccine policies and prescribing documents for SEARS in tandem with our public health team. I know a great deal in regard to vaccines and their use. I have also worked previously as a research nurse and I know how to critically appraise journal articles and trial protocols.
I am contacting you at UK Column in response to the video "No smoke without fire Pt 2" In particular concerning a question you put to Debbie Evans. You asked Debbie if she knew what was going on in regard to Nurses, Medics and Carers who are involved in the vaccine programme and whether or not they had knowledge of the risks around the jabs, but were carrying on regardless, or were they not aware as a result of how they are trained nowadays.
I would agree with part of Debbies response in so much as everyone involved in the jab programme are simply listening to management and there is very little if any questioning around the whole issue of the jabs.
I started to ask questions in regard to the safety of the jabs before the MRHA gave their emergency use authorisation use last year.
I knew I would be expected to be directly involved in the rollout of the jab in our health board and I had been reading the trial protocols and the interim analysis data where published.
I could see very early on that they were flaws in the Pfizer trial and for all the jabs, there was little to no safety data made available. I could see that the claims from the pharmaceutical company as the efficacy of the jabs was poetic licence and as far as I'm concerned, designed to mislead.
Because my work is entered on vaccines this last few years I asked questioned the speed with which these jabs came into use and the fact that no one was questioning the outcomes of the numerous animal trials that had been undertaken over the previous 18 years for SARS and MERS.
Initially I refused to have any involvement to undertake my usual involvement in these jabs however I was quickly threatened with redeployment to the planned vaccine centre, where I would be expected to administer the jabs. I definitely did not want to be in a position where I was expected to inject anyone, is I reined in my objection but continued to refuse to have my name appear on any of the paperwork.
At every turn I have challenged the need for these jabs in any cohort than the plus 65 years and the clinically at risk. Even then I questioned the lack of safety and efficacy data.
I challenged the fact that our health board had adopted a policy of not providing the patient information leaflet PIL for all jab recipients. The PIL should always be and available to every recipient in a timely manner so that they may read through it, in order to make a truly informed decision and provide consent to receiving the jab.
Yet it became policy that no one was to offer this to recipients unless they had requested it. However lay people have no concept of the PIL and are unaware that this is supposed to be provided to them, conversely however it is written in the protocols health care professionals must use them to authorise administration of the jab. The PIL must be made available to the recipient.
Similarly I challenged the fact that the documentation used by the health care professionals as a checklist should be gone through with every recipient must include that they are taking part in an ongoing clinical trial.
At every turn and where I can I have questioned and confronted my executive level line manager, public health colleagues and my peers, some who I have worked with for over 10 years now. As a result of my non conformity I've been labelled and "Anti vaxer" and "conspiracy nut" even though both my children have been fully vaccinated.
I myself whilst working clinically had my hepatitis vaccination. I am not anti vaccine at all.
I have been excluded from certain meetings, I've been openly ridiculed, and laughed at. Recently I was told I needed to "watch my step" as when cost saving measures are required later this year, I may just find myself surplus to requirements.
So Debbie is correct those delivering the programmes and injecting the public are simply following the orders given to them. For the most part they are doing so naively in the belief the can trust the rhetoric dictated by senior management.
However there is Total awareness of the issue and risk involved with these jabs at senior level within the NHS and not just in my board. I've spoken with colleagues in other health boards who report the same issues.
When I last faced up to my manger asking why they were content to be taking part in what amounted (as far as I was concerned) genicode. Their reply was chilling and left me felling both disgusted and despairing They agitated replies that "we all have job to do and a part to play" so just "shut up, put up and get it done"
It was made very clear to me that government were leaning heavily on health boards to not only ensure not only compliance with the jab program, but that the boards met the targets set by the government.
Brian I have tried to recruit colleagues to the cause, I've had numerous conversations with nurses who have years of experience working in the NHS and who are all aware that things simply aren't right, but always to no avail.
I am often told it is futile, to speak up or speak out as they, the management just won't listen.
Then there are those who are aware of what's going on and simply can't take the stress of being involved, they are off work long term sick in their droves.
There are also very many senior nurses who have taken early retirement over the last few months, all of them citing the current situation with the jabs and the whole Covid debacle as the reasons they just had to get out.
You mentioned Brian when talking with Debbie and I have heard similar sentiment elsewhere, that those NHS who have knowledge of what's taking place and who are not speaking out are complicit in the atrocity. Some even go so far as to demand nurse like me speak out as a moral duty and they have no sympathy for us if we end up facing Nuremberg style trials
But I have a mortgage to pay, two children and all the bills, the whole house to cover, my partner was made redundant last year.
If I went public I would most certainly never work in nursing again and with current climate of unemployment what chance would I stand of getting another job never mind one that pay enough to cover out outgoings and keep a roof over my children heads.
I hate my job, I am currently ashamed to be a nurse and very day I work for the NHS I feel greater despair and loathing.
You mentioned GP's specifically to Debbie and I thought I would relay a conversation I had just yesterday with a GP at one of our surgeries delivering the jabs. The GP in question know directly of my involvement with the boards jab programme and had questioned me regarding the forthcoming Moderna jab we are beginning to administer in April.
Through the course of the conversation I learned the GP had taken the Pfizer jab herself. Aghast I asked her was she CRAZY considering the jab contained PEG (polyethelene glycol) also known as antifreeze. The GP didn't know the jab contained PEG, in fact the GP didn't know any of the excipients in the jab at all as they had never read the PIL or full prescribing documentation. I challenged this stating that they couldn't fully obtain consent from their patients if they themselves weren't aware of the terms of the PIL.
I them asked were they informing their patients that they were taking part in a clinical trial. At this point the colour drained from the GP's face as they rather sheepishly replied that they weren't, they were simply asking if the patient was happy to be followed up over a 2 year period for research.
In all honesty Brian the GP didn't even know the jabs weren't approved, that they were still in clinical phase 3 trials. Tragically this GP's lack of knowledge in regard to the jobs isn't rare.
Again recently I had conversation with an NHS consultant who took the Pfizer jab, they too didn't know they had taken part in a trial or that the jabs weren't approved.
If consultants, GPs, nurses and pharmacists within the NHS aren't aware of this how on earth can we expect the public to know.
Lastly I disagree with Debbie on one point, she stated that she felt sorry for her NHS colleagues who were essentially being set up, I disagree.
My NHS colleagues have forsaken their duty of care, broken their code of conduct, hippocratic oath and have been brainwashed just the same as the majority of the UK public through propaganda and predictive programming.
When I trained as a nurse it was engrained in me to question everything, to never accept being told "because we have always done it" or "because I'm telling you to"
I learned we were advocates for patients and it was our duty to protect them at all costs and I learned to look for the evidence behind every treatment or medicine I would provide a patient.
Therefore I am complicit to
Although I know about the safety issues, I've repeatedly tried to get through to management colleagues and I have failed.
I can't recruit a single NHS colleague, be they nurse, doctor or pharmacist to stand with me and speak up.
I have gone to the union to look for them to support me but predictably they told me I have no real case and it wouldn't be worth pursuing.
As a lone voice I will not be heard but would lose my job, 23 year noosing career and my nursing registration. Of that I have no doubt.
For now I am resigned to remain in my post, I will continue to be defiant and challenge everyone at every opportunity trying to wake them up and if they would be willing to side with me.
If a time ever came this genocide came to light, and if I ended up on trial testifying against those in positions of power who could have affected the outcomes I would not hesitate to give evidence.
I will also accept my fate should I to have been found to be duplicitous in this horrid act of human annihilation.
I do not fear that day Brian I fact I welcome it and pray for it to come
Well worth a listen to this episode, of note is the fact that the lady whistleblower relays what many thought in that most NHS employees are just following orders from "line management" and doing as they are told. She spoke to a consultant and a doctor who had both been "jabbed", neither of which had any idea that they were part of an experimental trail until 2023, or what the ingredients of it were....
Nhs nurse speaks out
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(source twitter) (https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1382327016226193408)
There's no sound for the first 2m 18 seconds :facepalm:
:bump:
Okay, listening now. Wow.
My MP will hear from me citing this, and perhaps I'll write to the CCG as well.
This will be in the library pronto as soon as we can start uploading again, so its saved, as permanently as anything can be these days. Downloaded now :thumbsup:
jaybee
14th April 2021, 20:46
When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/
There are lots of comments under the video about it - so they will know...
whoops - :) just seen this in Tintin's post so they definitely knew all about it...
"UKC explainer:
"Since Youtube decided to mess up the audio sync when we snipped the countdoun timer off the front of the video using their editing tool, here's a re-upload."
Tintin
14th April 2021, 20:56
I am not a conspiracy theorist, but...
I have tried all three links to this video/audio: each time the vido works fine, and the audioesn't. I did catch a snatch after several attempts, about thirty seconds of the nurse claiming anonymity, before it went dead.:confused:
I think, in their keenness to make this available as quickly as possible, they've not synched the visual and audio, at all. It's way off :facepalm: I think if you skip to about 03m 30secs the nurse's testimony starts. and the sound rolls through fine after that, with the slide static on screen. Their editor needs a knuckle rap for the lack of post (as in post-production) this time :)
It's well worth persevering with - just don't watch it; listen to it :)
When I listened to it originally the sound and sound sync were fine ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ - Innocent technical glitch or ...sabotage! I would ask what harm is done?, since you can hear most of the nurse's testimony, but if sabotage is at play look at the scorn on its low production values.. so perhaps harm is done. Not saying we know for sure either way. I should probably let the channel know :/
You don’t understand. As a test, I tried a personally bookmarked video which has nothing to do with the subject at hand: Miloslav Kabeláč’s Mystery Of Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kxcD0mU9jo), which I like to listen to now and again. The link also stopped working... until it started again. In other words, the problem is at my end.
I hear the same symptoms that Tintin described, with the audio out of sync. So from that, I conclude there must also be an issue with the video :thumbsup:
Please see this post here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1422079&viewfull=1#post1422079) for clarification :highfive:
pyrangello
15th April 2021, 01:22
So my uncle who was 77 took the 1st shot last week. He had caught a staff infection 10 years ago and never really got back to 100%. 5 days later this week he wasn't feeling good and went into the bedroom to lay down and died 2 hrs later. His wife who is a nurse gave him CPR but my uncle had left for this lifetime. Was it the shot, did he catch covid, was it a combination, my aunt got the same shot to. I have my own opinion but that needs to stay where it is on behalf of my uncle.
In remembrance of him and my aunt who they were married for 56 years. He was the coolest uncle you could ever want to hang out with. Never saw him mad or raise his voice. Always glad to see ya, give you the shirt off his back, and would share a laugh and a smile anytime.HIs love for life and his family were truly a role model of lifetime passion with no drama and my highest respect. As were all going to leave the earth one day, it's never easy to say goodbye to those truly special souls that are one of the exceptionally good ones.
Harmony
15th April 2021, 01:37
So my uncle who was 77 took the 1st shot last week. He had caught a staff infection 10 years ago and never really got back to 100%. 5 days later this week he wasn't feeling good and went into the bedroom to lay down and died 2 hrs later. His wife who is a nurse gave him CPR but my uncle had left for this lifetime. Was it the shot, did he catch covid, was it a combination, my aunt got the same shot to. I have my own opinion but that needs to stay where it is on behalf of my uncle.
In remembrance of him and my aunt who they were married for 56 years. He was the coolest uncle you could ever want to hang out with. Never saw him mad or raise his voice. Always glad to see ya, give you the shirt off his back, and would share a laugh and a smile anytime.HIs love for life and his family were truly a role model of lifetime passion with no drama and my highest respect. As were all going to leave the earth one day, it's never easy to say goodbye to those truly special souls that are one of the exceptionally good ones.
That is truelly sad pyrangello. My, and others, thougnts are with you. Thank you for sharing , your Uncle was a lovely man, love to you and your Aunt.:heart:
Delight
15th April 2021, 01:45
So sad about all who are losing their beloveds.
Vaccine Injuries at RECORD HIGH due to Experiment on Human Lab RATS! - David Knight (https://brandnewtube.com/v/krDvvj)
RunningDeer
15th April 2021, 02:02
So sad about all who are losing their beloveds.
Vaccine Injuries at RECORD HIGH due to Experiment on Human Lab RATS! - David Knight (https://brandnewtube.com/v/krDvvj)
Vaccine Injuries at RECORD HIGH due to Experiment on Human Lab RATS!
David Knight (6:46 min)
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wondering
15th April 2021, 15:49
Dear Pyrangello, I think you have mentioned your Aunt and Uncle before. Blessings on them and on you..thank you for letting us know. Peace and serenity to us all...Diane
pyrangello
15th April 2021, 16:54
Spoke to a friend yesterday, family member was in the hospital yesterday for operation, nurse said there were more people being admitted for covid that had the vaccination that have not ! Take that for what its worth , And I know michigan is making the national news about this virus, another friend of mine said at one hospital they have about 20 people admitted for covid, doc said to this person that 75% could have been sent home but since the government is paying so much for covid cases, there is an finanical incentive to admit. ............................. Thank You for your kind words
onawah
16th April 2021, 19:33
That all sounds about right!
You have often shown great regard for the seniors in your life, which I appreciate a lot (especially being a senior myself).
My sincere sympathy for your loss.
I live in a 30 unit complex for seniors and disabled, and I know that at least two of my neighbors who have had the vaccine have been ill ever since.
I had asked my next door neighbor if she would be interested in knowing some reasons not to get the jab when she told me she was about to get one, and she declined.
She is one of the ill ones now, I was told yesterday by the manager of the complex who came with some papers for me to sign.
He was planning to get the shot, but after we discussed it for awhile and he told me that my next door neighbor had been ill since getting it, he decided not to.
So that was encouraging, but I'm wondering if my next door neighbor is bitter now that she refused my input.
She hasn't spoken to me since that last conversation.
There is a Facebook community support group for my little town, but discussion about COVID and other controversies are discouraged, though posts about where the vaccine is being made available are posted there without censoring.
However, a post I wanted to make there about a local clinic that takes a more holistic, preventative and natural approach to health care was deemed inappropriate and wasn't allowed.
I have inquired as to why, but haven't received an answer as yet.
I think the amount of division we are seeing now in the world is at least a match for that leading up to WW2. :sad:
Spoke to a friend yesterday, family member was in the hospital yesterday for operation, nurse said there were more people being admitted for covid that had the vaccination that have not ! Take that for what its worth , And I know michigan is making the national news about this virus, another friend of mine said at one hospital they have about 20 people admitted for covid, doc said to this person that 75% could have been sent home but since the government is paying so much for covid cases, there is an finanical incentive to admit. ............................. Thank You for your kind words
Rawhide68
16th April 2021, 20:41
My mom (83 years old from Sweden) is getting jabbed tomorrow, God bless her soul!
EarthGirl
16th April 2021, 21:29
I hear you Rawhide68... Hugs x...
Both my parents had their 2nd Astra Zeneca last Sat... My best friend had hers last week and when questioned if may ask her why she replied "I wanted to be part of a global experiment".... Even my next door neighbour who wouldn't have the flu jab because "you don't know what they put in them" had his last week... Sigh...
My mom (83 years old from Sweden) is getting jabbed tomorrow, God bless her soul!
Constance
16th April 2021, 22:20
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Hym
17th April 2021, 00:56
Look at the disclaimer at the beginning of the video.
The disclaimer says:
"The opinions expressed here do not represent LLNL or the US Government".
How long did it take them to add that disclaimer?
Human Translation:
This means that they are truly sorry that the video was made and that they are both sorry that he exposed the worst abuses of science, as revealed by him and him alone, this distinguished scientist. We, the paying entities, LLNL and the Government (fill in your own national governmental identity here_____________), are excused from all prosecution because we apologized. So there.
However those institutions still pay him to create bioweapons, EM neuro-weaponry, and whatever he can pull out of his credentialed arse to injure, maim, torture, and kill you humans out there. That's his job, and he's getting paid well to sell the hell he sells.
Last July...
My response was to Gwin Ru's Post #152 on the thread "The planned takedown of America", wherein Celeste Solum, on June 23, 2020 posted a, now removed, video titled: "Breaking News: Dr. Evil Returns with Neuroweapons"
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111213-The-planned-takedown-of-America-now--June-2020--in-full-swing.&p=1363790&viewfull=1#post1363790
I have written about him and his ilk before.
My comments were from post #155:
"Referring to the video in Post 152 "Dr. Evil Returns...":
In the words, the ego, the pride of the man in the video you get to see the inner workings of someone who is the epitome of the worst of science, maybe worse than Mengele/Dr.Green or the war criminal Ishi. With absolutely zero expression of ethical character, morality, or even the slightest hint of humanity, that man unabashedly shows pride in causing human suffering through a variety of technologies, administered to humans without one micronized nano-particulate of legality, ethics, morality or even a shred of conscience.
He is what controllers never want the public to see, but seen he has been and now by many who are meant to counter his efforts, in no small part simply by seeing and hearing him talk.
His strange additions to the use of all of those technical descriptions and his neurolinguistic manipulation of words shows a highly evolved deviance that rarely sees the light of public scrutiny. Calling him Dr. Evil is hardly a hint of his extremely corrupt iterations, clumsily hidden in the jargon of technical, but incomplete and dishonest, descriptions of the use and function of technologies IN HUMAN TERMS and, if true, his work in destroying the lives of others of his species.
However, in this rare case it may be a misnomer to assume he is a member of the species he works so diligently, so proudly, to injure, control and destroy. When we see someone so hell bent on exposing his motivations to those of us who remain souls in human form, we watch as he reaps his devil's reward, beyond those limited confines.
The most telling amongst his credentials as a soulless being is his work as a research fellow in bio security and ETHICS at the u.s.naval war college, as a member of dartmouth neuroETHICS operational cognitive sciences section, as a consulting bioETHICIST for the defense medical ETHICS committee and his being on the HUMAN service secretary's advisory committee on HUMAN research. His words show no hint of ETHICS nor the slightest wisp of HUMANITY.
It is a long journey taken that lands such a man in those elevated positions that expose the depth of the dishonest charter of those institutions. His standing in those institutions alone is enough to discredit any claim those institutions may have to be funded and ultimately to even exist. Know the devil when you see him.
Translation:
That man has several doctorates, PhD's , in the use of disinformation to disguise the most unethical invention, creation and use of diverse technologies whose existence is solely meant to increase the sufferings within humans. One cold soul. A Nobel Prize candidate for the unethical invention, creation and use of the tools of torture. A discarnate being accidentally manifest in a world of humans. This is a good measure of the ability to see beyond and within the shell of one who assumes human form, yet whose motivations are only to increase the darkness.
I can guarantee that generals, admirals and the heads of the corporations who control all of that evil have had some interesting conversations leaving meetings with that man, the one called an expert consultant.
Said the admiral to the 5 star general,"Wow George! Did you find a way to reincarnate Crowley, or Bush Sr. or our illustrious Dr.Green? Damn? Remind me to hide my children when he's around."
"Admiral. Remember. We do have to have an insurance policy for devils like that.", said the general in return.
And, after that short conversation, here is a literal translation on how the most senior of those military officials use such a creature:
In assessing how the meeting went, we hear a conversation between one colonel and one of the admiral's aides.
"Just the man you want to have working in your dungeon. One with the highest unethical pedigree, the lowest denominator of emotional attachment to ETHICS and the scholarly degrees to prove it all." "Yes Sir. He was hired before he even gave his presentations."
What few seem to understand is that a mundane, insecure sociopath turned into a high level psychopath defines the world in service to others in ways you might not understand. Yes, it is service, but it is their method of serving that is incomprehensible to most. It exists only within the removal of the human heart and soul, while absolutely no other moral compass exists in their lives. There are reasons but no excuses.
If you ever have the misfortune of listening to those deeper, controlling evil ones, those who hire him and pay him, not too much unlike that one scientist, as they talk about real people, you'd understand, in an immediate and visceral way, the great disconnect they project to all of humanity, as if HUMANS don't exist.
In a much greater contrast, the most powerful ones in their darkened prominence, exist many levels and many degrees below and above that one little scientist/entrepreneur, the one we were allowed to see and hear and sense."
Eva2
17th April 2021, 01:57
https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/173779014_10157680829720723_1951176717357825613_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=FG-8OtG-QwYAX-JSbzf&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=33abfc09fa0bbc203fdb25819c17fc36&oe=60A096C4
TomKat
17th April 2021, 02:54
An NHS senior nurse speaks out anonymously against the vaccines:
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Ami
17th April 2021, 10:09
Regarding the now deleted Celeste Solum video Hym is referring to in post #232.... If I remember correctly, and it's possible I have this wrong, but I think the following are the videos Celeste Solum had cited in her youtube post. They are of Dr. James Giordano being interviewed by an analyst at the Homeland Defense & Security Information Analysis Center....
Weaponizing Brain Science: Neuroweapons - Part 1 of 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9QdslZoXs
Weaponizing Brain Science: Neuroweapons - Part 2 of 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFgTmCchkKw
They are similarly illustrative of the width & breadth of today's possible neuroweapons.
Apologies if I am incorrect or this is too far off topic.
TomKat
19th April 2021, 12:24
There are so many credible reports of people having severe side effects including death, and so many more reports of people I know who had the vax and had no problems, that I wonder if they've started using placebos. If the goal is to institute a global police state based on vaccination, they can't have people dropping like flies. So the next best thing to having a vaccinated population could be a population believing in the vaccine and afraid of the unvaccinated. If my hypothesis is correct, we will see no more deaths, and especially no more celebrity deaths.
Looks like Walgreen was caught giving saline instead of the vaccine, said it was a mix-up. Yeah, they just happened to have a bunch of saline shots lying around :-)
https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/vaccine-mix-up-at-north-carolina-walgreens-results-in-saline-injections-instead-of-covid-treatment/285208
Tenzin
19th April 2021, 12:56
These are the rationales heavily pushed by the Singapore government to get more people to take the jabs, how would you respond to them? We are better prepared to help others if we know how to counter their narrative.
1. To reduce risk of infection,
2. To reduce infection symptom severity,
3. Asymptomatic transmission
From a dr cardiologist:
+++++++
One of the hot topics for discussion presently is
"How did the people who were vaccinated still get Covid ?"
"Is there still any point in getting the vaccine if you are not fully protected by it?"
5800 cases of breakthrough infections have occurred in the US with a backdrop of 75 million vaccinated people. In Malaysia, we have 40 cases of covid cases out of the roughly 600,000 vaccinated health care individuals.
While it is sad to see that infections are still occurring amongst vaccinated individuals, this is not unexpected. The vaccination has never been 100% protective.
The purpose of the vaccine is to REDUCE your chances of getting covid and more importantly MINIMIZE your risk of severe Covid. These data are still robust even as the vaccination is under way.
So the take home message is
1.Please get your vaccine. It doesn't prevent you from getting covid but reduces your risks.
2.Having completed the vaccination is not an excuse to roam around maskless as though you are a superman or superwoman who cannot get the infection even if you walk into ICU without PPE.
Think of it like this, you wear a safety belt when you drive, to improve your chances of survival in case you have an accident. But wearing the safety belt cannot guarantee your survival and neither does it give you an excuse to drive recklessly.
Have a good weekend ahead."
Sérénité
20th April 2021, 00:48
There is a rumour that Ireland has passed a law which will criminalise unvaccinated people mixing with vaccinated people in their own homes
https://twitter.com/Rainbowandsteel/status/1382088639438598144
@Rainbowandsteel
Ireland passed a law which will criminalise unvaccinated people mixing with vaccinated people in their own homes https://gov.ie/en/collection/1f150-view-statutory-instruments-related-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/
10:49 pm · 13 Apr 2021
I don't follow Irish politics, but saw this on twitter. Does anyone follow Irish politics closely enough to know if this is true?
Somebody asked them to clarify their tweet in the comments and they responded with this:
Go to the S.I. No. 168 doc - go to pages 11-13, various restrictions eg "the event is attended only by vaccinated persons"
source: comment tweet (https://twitter.com/Rainbowandsteel/status/1382108803173351426)
I suspect it is true, but there's always hoping it's not
Yes it’s true...!
It’s the Health Act of 1947, Section 31a
https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/1f150-view-statutory-instruments-related-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/#
Trisher
20th April 2021, 12:13
A very good interview with Zach Bush talking about the potentials of creating a new humanity through higher intelligence using the trials and tribulations of what is happening to people and populations right now. He talks about the vax and his take on it and the slippery slope we could be going down or not.
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TomKat
20th April 2021, 19:40
A Yale doctor says more than half the new covid patients coming in are already vaccinated:
https://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/bombshell-yale-doc-60-of-new-covid-patients-are-vaccinated
O Donna
21st April 2021, 03:48
If the vaccination is the science wonder savior of the world, why the need for the hard sell via mainstream media?
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Spellbound
21st April 2021, 04:36
My fear is that as I work for a huge multinational logistics company...my company (DHL) may make the vaccine mandatory for people to return to work. I still work at the office on a daily basis, while my coworkers have been working from home since last March of 2020 (I haven't seen them in over a year). I was asked if I would prefer to work at home but I said no....I need structure!! But if they make vaccine mandatory for people to return to the office...my refusal to take the vaccine may force me to work from home (or to quit altogether).
Dave - Toronto
Karen (Geophyz)
21st April 2021, 13:55
I just had a long conversation with my boss about why I will not take the vaccine. He arranged for everyone in the company to go and get the shot. There was myself and one other person who refused. I have just learn that the other person agreed to it this morning. I am sure the boss told him what he told me and that was basically if you want to stay employed you need to get the jab. Why? It seems that companies are being offered a monetary incentive to 100% vaccination within the company----by the US government. I have a medical excuse at the moment but my boss is being very intimidating about this so I may soon be looking for another job. Or maybe I should just retire and spend my days hugging my trees and taking long walks with my horse.
pyrangello
21st April 2021, 14:45
Yeah tomcat , heard the same thing here last week when my buddy got operated on , his wife was talking to the nurse and she said there were more people in there that have had the vaccines in the hospital than not. That was last week. Karen, I have many friends and customers that have taken this shot, most won't listen and just say its a vaccine like the regular flu shot, makes me very sad. I'm going to my uncles funeral today who died 5 days later after the shot, he went and told my aunt he was going to lay down and 2 hours later was gone. Just sad . I will tell you myself and my wife and a few others had this virus 3-4 years ago. When I got this I was taken right down in 24 hours, couldn't breathe, no energy, winded in walking 30 ft. Keep saying what is this shxt? It zapped me for a week, and then another week to get better,. My wife and my buddy both told me they didn't think they were going to make it for 3 days. They thought they were going to die. But we all did make it, my buddy who is a chiropractor in his late 30's had this too at the same time, he doesn't wear a mask even in his practice now. Sees 30 people a day, he should be dead by now , right? I very rarely wear a mask too. We should all be dead with the people we see everyday right? There was that study where they tested people that went thru the 1918 flu, 100 years later they still had the antibodies. Thats why I think we all havn't got sick again, we already had this 3-4 years ago.
Want to hear something crazy, talking a person yesterday, there company is so short of help they have a worker that tested positive but isn't showing signs of being sick, so they put a porta potty in for just that one person and said she can work. The insanity is reaching a new level . Just as cliff high said when all these people start coming down with illnesses due to this shot, these people will be turning on those who promoted this. My friend at the hospital who does blood work said they are seeing people who have taken the vaccine with multiple lesions on their livers now. Remember all the animals that they tested this shot on and all died, ALL OF THEM DIED. complication's down the road with the animals included liver issues. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO!!!! anybody in there?
Spellbound
21st April 2021, 23:49
A lot of the US Military have refused the vaxx....and I know many of the nurses in hospitals in the Toronto area have also refused it. Vaccines takes decades...not 8 months.
The other thing is...any vaccine has not been given 100% approval. It has only been given "emergency approval". They are still doing trials for each vaccine which will last into 2023. The thing that most people don't realize is that the "emergency approval" drops once lockdowns end. Henceforth, lockdowns won't be ending anytime soon.
Blows my mind what these folks (Cabal) are getting away with...and most people can't see the forest through the trees.
Dave - Toronto
TomKat
22nd April 2021, 01:52
I just had a long conversation with my boss about why I will not take the vaccine. He arranged for everyone in the company to go and get the shot. There was myself and one other person who refused. I have just learn that the other person agreed to it this morning. I am sure the boss told him what he told me and that was basically if you want to stay employed you need to get the jab. Why? It seems that companies are being offered a monetary incentive to 100% vaccination within the company----by the US government. I have a medical excuse at the moment but my boss is being very intimidating about this so I may soon be looking for another job. Or maybe I should just retire and spend my days hugging my trees and taking long walks with my horse.
Don't quit, let him fire you. Then sue his ass.
TomKat
22nd April 2021, 01:59
Blows my mind what these folks (Cabal) are getting away with...and most people can't see the forest through the trees.
Dave - Toronto
In 1993 Washington DC columinst Pat Buchanan said that the North American Free Trade Agreement was a "non-negotiable demand from the ruling class." That's why it could not be stopped. This vaccine program seems the same.
Karen (Geophyz)
22nd April 2021, 12:45
Update!
Yesterday afternoon my doctor sent an email to my boss explaining that I have chronic ITP (Idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura),which means I cannot have the vaccine. I could seriously bleed to death. So I am hoping this will keep me from being fired or laid off and keep me from ever having to take the vaccine.
Ravenlocke
22nd April 2021, 13:15
I will tell you myself and my wife and a few others had this virus 3-4 years ago. When I got this I was taken right down in 24 hours, couldn't breathe, no energy, winded in walking 30 ft. Keep saying what is this shxt? It zapped me for a week, and then another week to get better,. My wife and my buddy both told me they didn't think they were going to make it for 3 days. They thought they were going to die. Thats why I think we all havn't got sick again, we already had this 3-4 years ago.
This also happened to me and my husband, same symptoms also about 3 years ago and we both thought we were going to die for three days, and it took a week to just start to get over it and more than another week to start getting our strength back. My husband is absolutely convinced we had the covid then as well. We both have never taken any flu shots and we both don’t want this vaccine. I deeply sympathize for people that have jobs and are being coerced into taking the shot , I have siblings in that same boat, and they don’t want to lose their jobs. 😢
wondering
22nd April 2021, 13:37
I know all situations are different, but I think the idea of being fired vs. quitting has value. My fondest hope is that at some point employers will be held responsible for the coercion...especially if it is about making more profit. I think we would all love to see that. What a year this has been for you, Karen. ✌️❤️✌️❤️✌️❤️ Diane
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