Echo Chamber

[Praxis]

Banning members from threads when they oppose the narrative of that thread.

Imagine if this site had protected corey goode in the same way it protects Q?

The people in that are in that Reality TV Thread do not have push back against their ideas so they echo chamber harder and harder and I am surprised they dont believe in the blue chicken cult .

Tomkat has apparently been banned for spamming the same post over and over again. He is actually not wrong. While I disagree with Tom kat and do not engage them, they are not wrong for pushing back on the obvious nonsense that is Q anon(but keep buy Q merch please because it helps my Drop shipping business!)

Until the Q people engage his post and respond point by point he is actually in his right to try and counter the propaganda that is the Qult thread.

Even after Trump is not president and NONE of the predications came through, they are being protected in their safe space.

That is right. This bastion of reactionaries is now creating safe spaces for the Qult.

Fun fact: Trump didnt stop the deep state and instead actually took care of the one person that might have been able to start that ball rolling: Epstein. That is right. Trump had Epstein killed because he knew it was a loose thread. He died in Federal custody. THe custody of Trump and Barr, both connected to him. If Clinton had been president and the same situation happened, this site would be a froth over it. and would never let go of it. That is why I will never let go of it on this site. Your God Emperor

Has the Qult dealt with this Fact? Nope. And you are protecting their playground by banning people who challenge their narrative.

I could go find a thread and opinions on this site about how **** Twitter and AWS are for banning parler, yet here you are making safe spaces for a QULT and doing the exact same thing you would bitch about other people doing.

So much hypocrisy in here. If you need safe place, you are a snowflake that is triggered unless you are trusting the plan . . .

[Catsquotl]

What plan is that?

With love
Eelco

[Jayke]

The battlefield of ideas is open on several threads for anyone who wishes to attack any of us Q supporters:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister/page28
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107894-Other-Q-conversations-including-some-Questions-and-Answers/page9
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111388-A-Q-related-information-commentary-discussion-thread/page3

Perfectly happy to debate anyone on any of the Q material in these more discussion based threads. As Bill pointed out when he moved TomKat off the main Q thread, it’s more a librarian decision to keep topics organised and in order. The main Q thread (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis) is more for news, updates, interesting tidbits, speculation and data gathering.

It’s not hard to understand really Praxis, no ones stopping you from attacking Q on Avalon. It’s just a matter of choosing the right venue for picking fights.

As Bill said in the record of Moderator actions (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78116-RECORD-of-MODERATOR-ACTIONS&p=1406696&viewfull=1#post1406696) thread.

It struck me that we really need to explain what we're doing here, and why. It's not like we've turned into a bunch of censoring fascists! We're merely trying to be a combo of good librarians and good peacekeepers.

I posted this just above, and the mods' post on the thread that I referenced presents it quite clearly.

Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
TomKat has been blocked from The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis. There's an explanation on this mods' post on the thread.
TomKat was posting his critiques of QAnon, and his skepticism, on the main QAnon thread. For a long time now, that's been a discussion, now very civilized and often interesting and valuable, about the machinations of American politics in general. (And there's a lot to be discussed and picked apart, for sure.) The thread is about much else beside QAnon.

For anyone skeptical or critical of QAnon, they have a different thread on which to post their opinions and references, and that's on the QAnon: An Opposing Viewpoint thread. That's the very purpose of that separated thread.

And for those critical of Trump, there's the longstanding thread Trump is NOT the answer. Anyone is free and welcome to post there as much as they like. Zamolxe, 42, Deneon, Tinman, and others.... that's your free platform.

And it's not about politics. Here's why.

We have the very wonderful Animals are Magical thread. If someone who despised and feared snakes or spiders were to launch a polemic there to voice their own opinions, we'd move that as well.

If someone who only loved and appreciated classical music were to start a critical diatribe on The Heavy Metal Music Thread, we'd move that too. (And it's not about the mods' tastes in music. Many of us appreciate both. )

It's about respect, courtesy, and not causing more stress and upset in a world which is difficult enough for people to navigate as it is right now.

If we can't treat each other well here in this rather special community — where sometimes we may need to remember we have far more in common than we have differences — then we may as well all give up hope for the future.

So we will move posts when needed, and we will block members from some threads if they can't understand what I've tried to explain above. We actually delete very few posts indeed, but we will also do that if they're just plain snarky, unpleasant, or unkind.

Just don't express yourself like that, no matter how frustrated you may be. You simply don't have to.

[Blastolabs]

From what I can tell the bans have occured specifically on users whose intentions are questioned.
This is not publicly mentioned but if one attempts to read between the lines this appears to be the case.

[safara]

Edited - Ah buggrit :waving:

[TomKat]

Banning members from threads when they oppose the narrative of that thread.

...

So much hypocrisy in here. If you need safe place, you are a snowflake that is triggered unless you are trusting the plan . . .

Praxis, I actually thought I was in the right place to criticize Q. The title of the thread is: "QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister?"

Little did I know that the purpose of the thread was to REFUTE the title! An advertising gimmick!

On Avalon if anyone complains about your post you are automatically banned. Savannah brags she got me banned from 2 threads recently, and I was never consulted about it either time.

[Jayke]

Banning members from threads when they oppose the narrative of that thread.

...

So much hypocrisy in here. If you need safe place, you are a snowflake that is triggered unless you are trusting the plan . . .

Praxis, I actually thought I was in the right place to criticize Q. The title of the thread is: "QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister?"

Little did I know that the purpose of the thread was to REFUTE the title! An advertising gimmick!

On Avalon if anyone complains about your post you are automatically banned. Savannah brags she got me banned from 2 threads recently, and I was never consulted about it either time.

Your posts were moved to the "QAnon - An Opposing Viewpoint - LARP, Psyop, Cult or Something Even More Sinister?" thread from the main Q thread. You’re not banned from the “an opposing viewpoint” thread, feel free to continue our debate on that thread if you’ve got the stones. You’re just banned from the main Q thread because you were blatantly trolling.

[Jayke]

Anyway, was feeling cute so just went through Praxis’s OP point by point and tore it to shreds (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107894-Other-Q-conversations-including-some-Questions-and-Answers&p=1406826&viewfull=1#post1406826) (in the Q debate forum). Feel free to venture into the unsafe space Praxis...I do enjoy a good rhetorical duel.

[Catsquotl]

Bravo, because tearing posts to shreds is what it's all about.


Let's see who has can pee further next time...
I think by beard is the longest. does that count?


And since you brought up Bill's post from the record of mods thread.
Whatever happened to the
It's about respect, courtesy, and not causing more stress and upset in a world which is difficult enough for people to navigate as it is right now.
or do words only work one way these days...


ps:
Also a very nice move to take it to the home team. Very balsy



With Love
Eelco

[Jayke]

Bravo, because tearing posts to shreds is what it's all about.


Let's see who has can pee further next time...
I think by beard is the longest. does that count?


And since you brought up Bill's post from the record of mods thread.
Whatever happened to the
It's about respect, courtesy, and not causing more stress and upset in a world which is difficult enough for people to navigate as it is right now.
or do words only work one way these days...


ps:
Also a very nice move to take it to the home team. Very balsy



With Love
Eelco

I can be civilly savage, especially when it’s someone else throwing the first punch. Besides, did you not see the bit where I said I was feeling cute, the cutest animals in the world have sharp teeth and claws, as any cat lover would know. Did you even read my rebuttal of Praxis’s OP, it was actually a pretty mild and civilised rebuttal. Wouldn’t expect you to read it though, not as if you cynics ever bother to inform yourselves of what you’re talking about before jumping to conclusions.

[Catsquotl]

I can be civilly savage, especially when it’s someone else throwing the first punch. Besides, did you not see the bit where I said I was feeling cute, the cutest animals in the world have sharp teeth and claws, as any cat lover would know. Did you even read my rebuttal of Praxis’s OP, it was actually a pretty mild and civilised rebuttal. Wouldn’t expect you to read it though, not as if you cynics ever bother to inform yourselves of what you’re talking about before jumping conclusions.




I did actually.
Not that it matters.....


As for cynic?
cynical of what.
I have never been pro or anti Trump or Q for that matter.
Just have a hard time dealing with clever worded attacks on people.


I can see how these things get misconstrued by those who feel strongly about it either way.


With Love
Eelco

[Jayke]

I can be civilly savage, especially when it’s someone else throwing the first punch. Besides, did you not see the bit where I said I was feeling cute, the cutest animals in the world have sharp teeth and claws, as any cat lover would know. Did you even read my rebuttal of Praxis’s OP, it was actually a pretty mild and civilised rebuttal. Wouldn’t expect you to read it though, not as if you cynics ever bother to inform yourselves of what you’re talking about before jumping conclusions.




I did actually.
Not that it matters.....


As for cynic?
cynical of what.
I have never been pro or anti Trump or Q for that matter.
Just have a hard time dealing with clever worded attacks on people.


I can see how these things get misconstrued by those who feel strongly about it either way.


With Love
Eelco

So, do you have a problem with Praxis attacking us Q folk or were his words not clever enough to trigger your inner warrior? Is it OK for someone to launch an attack as long as they’re not clever about it?

Your one-sided logic bemuses me.

[Catsquotl]

Where is Praxis attacking people?


In my opinion he/she is attacking, if one chooses to call it that, the way the ideas of an anonymous Q are vented, moderated and given a platform.
Now there's nothing wrong with that per se. He/she also expresses a deep concern for the almost cultlike vigor Q supporters seem to express their support.
As a former cult member I can say that that is worrisome and should be a topic that is open for scrutiny and debate...


With Love
Eelco

[Jayke]

Where is Praxis attacking people?


In my opinion he/she is attacking, if one chooses to call it that, the way the ideas of an anonymous Q are vented, moderated and given a platform.
Now there's nothing wrong with that per se. He/she also expresses a deep concern for the almost cultlike vigor Q supporters seem to express their support.
As a former cult member I can say that that is worrisome and should be a topic that is open for scrutiny and debate...


With Love
Eelco

I get it, you do condone attacks as long people aren’t clever about it. Got you. Good to know where you stand.

[Catsquotl]

I get it, you do condone attacks as long people aren’t clever about it. Got you. Good to know where you stand.


If that is what you take away from it..
I am truly sorry..

[Jayke]

I get it, you do condone attacks as long people aren’t clever about it. Got you. Good to know where you stand.


If that is what you take away from it..
I am truly sorry..

Apology accepted.

[TomKat]

Jayke, thanks for coming on this thread and displaying your aggressive insecurity for everyone to see. I instinctively react against your personality type, but looking back, I was very restrained and civilised on your thread. You're like a leader over there, I presume?

[Catsquotl]

I get it, you do condone attacks as long people aren’t clever about it. Got you. Good to know where you stand.


If that is what you take away from it..
I am truly sorry..

Apology accepted.

For you. I am sorry for you.
If that is truly the only thing you take away from our sharings.

[Jayke]

Jayke, thanks for coming on this thread and displaying your aggressive insecurity for everyone to see. I instinctively react against your personality type, but looking back, I was very restrained and civilised on your thread. You're like a leader over there, I presume?

Q is collaborative, everyone does there own research. I enjoy rhetorical debate so happy to aggressively or civilly debate the ins and outs of the movement with anyone. If people come in swinging though they usually end up on their arse.

Eelco, I’m truly sorry you see what you want to see too. All the best.

[ExomatrixTV]

🌐 tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons (http://tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons)



‘Q-Anon (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/)’ Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/) From 1920s Known As ‘Operation Trust’

[Jayke]

🌐 tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons (http://tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons)



‘Q-Anon (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/)’ Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/) From 1920s Known As ‘Operation Trust’


Jordan Sather debunks the article in a recent video. (https://rumble.com/vd6o4l-q-is-a-psy-op-to-make-you-passive-look-at-operation-trust-wrong..html) Although I do prefer the rebuttal David Whitehead gave of it last week. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister&p=1405079&viewfull=1#post1405079)

Just the first comment under Jordan’s video should be enough to collapse the ‘operation trust’ narrative:


PatriotJam, 2 days ago
Thank you Jordan for stating this on your channel. I have been fighting these comments on social media all week. I did not follow politics very closely my entire life. I have studied every Q post since day 1, when my husband discovered Q. I told my parents, my sister, my friends.. and then they all got involved. We have ALL watched politics, called our representatives, talked to our neighbors and followed politics more than any of us have ever done in our entire lives. The statement that Q made us passive and lazy is a BIG LIE!!!!

[9ideon]

Although I somehow agree with OP, I don't get the fuss really.

People believe what they wish, in the great scheme of things nothing will change. Did Corey Goode change anything but his bank account? Not really. People have been looking for causes to follow for centuries now, it does not matter, in the end the agenda set will not suffer or gain anything. It'll go the direction they wish for because of the divide set.

The best anyone can do is making up mind of own and be done with it.

As long as we do not unite on the things that bind us, not look at what divides us, we will never win.

[Catsquotl]

🌐 tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons (http://tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons)



‘Q-Anon (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/)’ Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/) From 1920s Known As ‘Operation Trust’


Jordan Sather debunks the article in a recent video. (https://rumble.com/vd6o4l-q-is-a-psy-op-to-make-you-passive-look-at-operation-trust-wrong..html) Although I do prefer the rebuttal David Whitehead gave of it last week. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister&p=1405079&viewfull=1#post1405079)

Just the first comment under Jordan’s video should be enough to collapse the ‘operation trust’ narrative:


PatriotJam, 2 days ago
Thank you Jordan for stating this on your channel. I have been fighting these comments on social media all week. I did not follow politics very closely my entire life. I have studied every Q post since day 1, when my husband discovered Q. I told my parents, my sister, my friends.. and then they all got involved. We have ALL watched politics, called our representatives, talked to our neighbors and followed politics more than any of us have ever done in our entire lives. The statement that Q made us passive and lazy is a BIG LIE!!!!

Bread and games.. give the people something to do.

[Jayke]

🌐 tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons (http://tinyurl.com/Q-Pros-and-Cons)



‘Q-Anon (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/)’ Bears Striking Resemblance to Bolshevik Psy-Op (https://www.infowars.com/posts/q-anon-bears-striking-resemblance-to-bolshevik-psy-op-from-1920s-known-as-operation-trust/) From 1920s Known As ‘Operation Trust’


Jordan Sather debunks the article in a recent video. (https://rumble.com/vd6o4l-q-is-a-psy-op-to-make-you-passive-look-at-operation-trust-wrong..html) Although I do prefer the rebuttal David Whitehead gave of it last week. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104156-QAnon-An-Opposing-Viewpoint-LARP-Psyop-Cult-or-Something-Even-More-Sinister&p=1405079&viewfull=1#post1405079)

Just the first comment under Jordan’s video should be enough to collapse the ‘operation trust’ narrative:


PatriotJam, 2 days ago
Thank you Jordan for stating this on your channel. I have been fighting these comments on social media all week. I did not follow politics very closely my entire life. I have studied every Q post since day 1, when my husband discovered Q. I told my parents, my sister, my friends.. and then they all got involved. We have ALL watched politics, called our representatives, talked to our neighbors and followed politics more than any of us have ever done in our entire lives. The statement that Q made us passive and lazy is a BIG LIE!!!!

Bread and games.. give the people something to do.

Arcana Imperii (secrets of the empire).

Bread and circuses was the original wasn’t it? Circus named after Circe, goddess of enchantment. The circus was where animals were forced to run in a circle, endlessly chasing their own tail. Although initially the animals endlessly running in a circle was a reference to the animals of the zodiac in the starry night sky.

Brendon O’Connell is great for understanding how “all the worlds a stage” and geopolitics is little more than theatre. I’ve been posting his videos on the main Q thread for a couple months now. Well worth watching. Plus he’s anti-Q so you guys will love it.

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[ExomatrixTV]

Americans Are Now Wondering WHAT They Have "Elected"

EXtOST4lmicp


source (https://www.bitchute.com/video/EXtOST4lmicp/)

[Catsquotl]

Back to the op. It seem that complaining about blunt stalking helps to get someone of a thread...
Covert 1, 2's are more difficult to spot.

I do notice an absence in some members post and an increace in clever answers and remarks by another everywhere tomkat or myself posts.

What do you think jayke should I complain?

Nah it's probably just my over imaginative conspiracy minded mindset.

With love
Eelco

[Jayke]

Back to the op. It seem that complaining about blunt stalking helps to get someone of a thread...
Covert 1, 2's are more difficult to spot.

I do notice an absence in some members post and an increace in clever answers and remarks by another everywhere tomkat or myself posts.

What do you think jayke should I complain?

Nah it's probably just my over imaginative conspiracy minded mindset.

With love
Eelco

Complain about what? I don't see anyone other than me even attempting to engage you in conversation. And I've been perfectly civil since you exposed your double standard on posts 13-19 of this thread. Feel free to throw stones, I was actually extending an olive branch by attempting to converse but if you find my ideas too threatening I'll add you to my ignore list if that helps.

[Bill Ryan]

Back to the op. It seem that complaining about blunt stalking helps to get someone of a thread...
Mod explanation from Bill:

Only because it's 100% impossible for the mods to read every post on every thread every day.

We're all part-timers with busy personal lives, so we're very dependent on members to draw things to our attention if they feel called to do so. THEN, we take a look and make a call, on whatever it is.

We get many reports every day, but quite a few of them are things like requests to help embed videos, merge threads, move or delete posts, and sometimes lend a hand with issues of many different kinds which are entirely personal.

Our job is primarily a support role in more ways than one. We're far more librarians, administrators and personal counselors than police. :)

So if we start to receive reports about a member or an issue (and btw, this thread, and its originator, have both been reported more than once as being negative and counterproductive), we start to discuss it.

The way this is done is that each report auto-generates its own report thread in a special area for the mods (identical in format to the rest of the forum), and if several reports come in about the same issue then we merge those report threads into one.

After that, the mods discuss the issue by posting replies, exactly like members discussing a posted issue on the main forum. Sometimes this takes time, as we're all in different time zones and are not always online together.

It's highly, highly consultative. I rarely make executive decisions myself. A few major reported issues have been discussed on a continuing basis for many months.

We can never ever do this, of course, but as a rather unfair teaser I might say that anyone reading this post might be more than fascinated to read some of our discussions. And they might also be surprised by the latitude we maintain and the very great patience we have.

Our current dilemma is plain and simple: it's a priority for us to uphold free speech in a climate where people with strong views, whatever they are, are getting deplatformed from other media left and right. That feels important. That's the principal reason why half a dozen members, whose names one might easily guess, haven't been politely shown the door.

And I'll say this again and again: it's nothing to do with what those strong views are. It's all about the energy and the way they're expressed. Some may be surprised to know that the last half dozen members who were unsubscribed (our polite euphemism for 'banned') were all strong Trump supporters. So, as they say, go figure.

We're very good at reading energy, by the way.

TL;DR

Some members reading this might be on thin, melting ice. Beware climate change. :) But "a pathetic snivelling wormtongue" made us laugh. As if from Joss Whedon, who famously scripted Loki's Avengers insult to Black Widow that only escaped the censors because no-one knew what it meant, and left viewers scrambling for their dictionaries. :)

:popcorn:

https://i.redd.it/ck8ftr532wc31.jpg

:focus: (whatever the topic of this thread actually is!)

[PurpleLama]

In the context of a forum such as this, each thread is intended, by design, to be exactly that, an echo chamber. When a provocative topic arises, threads pro and con may be split from the original so that the original maintains its own integrity and flow of information.

Do you oppose a topic? Start a thread. This is not contraversial, at all.

Do you oppose a topic, are well meaning, and have sincere questions? Ask, and you will be well received.

Do you oppose a topic, you are angry and are tempted to resort to ad hominem when you are not well received? Start your own thread, don't just dilute and troll the discussion you oppose.

I do not always agree with the actions of moderation, but I accept them because I know what they do is the best they can do. It ain't easy, being constantly in the cross fire, criticized from some quarter, no matter what they do.

If you disagree with the prevalent topic, don't be a jerk. (<- I try to take my own advice.)

[Jamie]

Surely there is enough room on PA for multiple threads, some which may well oppose each other.
It's always good to present a question or oppose the thoughts in a thread for discussions sake, as it forces one to consider a different view. :playball:
However, surely once the opposing view is persistent & constant, then you're invading a forum thread (spamming), so to speak.

It's great that Avalon has allowed all the differing topics available for everyone to enjoy, opposing or not.
As they say, don't waste too much energy on opposing what you are against... put that energy in promoting what you believe in instead :happythumbsup:

[Bill Ryan]

In the context of a forum such as this, each thread is intended, by design, to be exactly that, an echo chamber. When a provocative topic arises, threads pro and con may be split from the original so that the original maintains its own integrity and flow of information.

Do you oppose a topic? Start a thread. This is not contraversial, at all.

Do you oppose a topic, are well meaning, and have sincere questions? Ask, and you will be well received.

Do you oppose a topic, you are angry and are tempted to resort to ad hominem when you are not well received? Start your own thread, don't just dilute and troll the discussion you oppose.

I do not always agree with the actions of moderation, but I accept them because I know what they do is the best they can do. It ain't easy, being constantly in the cross fire, criticized from some quarter, no matter what they do.

If you disagree with the prevalent topic, don't be a jerk. (<- I try to take my own advice.)Perfectly stated. We should make you an honorary mod for a day. (That should scare you! :P )

And maybe we should amend the very wordy and ancient forum guidelines to just four words: Don't be a jerk.

But the problem is that rather like the old paradox about never thinking you may be mad, it never occurs to a real jerk that they may actually be one.

[Praxis]

Some members reading this might be on thin, melting ice. Beware climate change. :) But "a pathetic snivelling wormtongue" made us laugh. As if from Joss Whedon, who famously scripted Loki's Avengers insult to Black Widow that only escaped the censors because no-one knew what it meant, and left viewers scrambling for their dictionaries. :)

:popcorn:

https://i.redd.it/ck8ftr532wc31.jpg

:focus: (whatever the topic of this thread actually is!)

So I want to call out that the mod and owner of this site just supported a directed and nasty personal comment at me.

SO just so we are all clear you can start calling each other whatever you like. And if the mods Ban, just point this is comment right here.

It is not just him apparently, but rather all of the mods.

Which is strange because just before that he said that people had been shown the door for essentially name calling then in the next line supports it.



I would actually be interested to see how Circe is the root of circus. https://www.etymonline.com/word/circus#etymonline_v_13730 I find different information. Also https://www.etymonline.com/word/*sker-#etymonline_v_52738

Also. the President is the CEO of the executive Branch. The BOP is part of the DOJ and under Barr, who is connected to Epstein through his father, the man in their custody was murdered after being taken off suicide watch, which who has the power to do that btw?

Then Jayke wants to suggest that this in itself is not evidence. He is trying to suggest that the president is incapable of protecting the most dangerous asset against the deep state with the total lack of power that the president has.

Also he suggest that people are not making money off of the Q thread, when all you have to do is go to a blog that is consistently linked in that thread by the same person. I wonder why they dont post the words in the thread itself but rather link to an outside website, that serves web ads, strange.

Jayke, I used to post in the Q thread when it first started, why do you think the second thread was created? You will note who created the anti q thread.


EDIT. I want to recommend that if you want to actually learn about bread and circuses you should learn about the people who were holding those events. BVe3Xg5o--E

[Jayke]

I would actually be interested to see how Circe is the root of circus. https://www.etymonline.com/word/circus#etymonline_v_13730 I find different information. Also https://www.etymonline.com/word/*sker-#etymonline_v_52738

EDIT. I want to recommend that if you want to actually learn about bread and circuses you should learn about the people who were holding those events. BVe3Xg5o--E

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https://geniemusic.com/?w=694





The other source of the word "Church" is from the circles of the druids, such as:

"The circular Stonehenge in England.
The Scottish "Kirk" and the German "Kirche," are from the early word "Circe.")
The word "Church" is derived from "Circe."
The name "Circe" is well known by classical historians.
In his classical study, "The Myth of Kirke," Robert Brown gives extensive meanings in the ancient Greek world and concludes that Circe's simple meaning is "Circle" or "Circular" (p.22).
But it not only referred to a building or monument that was "circular," but one of its main meanings was its reference to the ancient Goddess "Kirke" or "Circe.
"Circe was the great heathen daughter of the Sun God, famous for taming wild animals in her 'circus.'

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Circes circus. The enchantress that turns men into beasts. What’s your star sign?

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Also see:
Giordano Bruno - ‘the incantations of Circe (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7033928-cantus-circaeus)’, ‘The Expulsion of the Triumphant Beast (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Expulsion-Triumphant-Beast-Giordano-Bruno/dp/0803262345)’