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lyn joshua
4th February 2021, 04:23
Hi Great People,
Are Religious Books Symbolic??
Were much of the information couched in imagery?!
Could figures be the reason why Religious Books are open to diverse interpretations??
Consider the Book of Revelations!!
A variant of the Book of Revelations is here-
Check out
"John and The Chariot Angels" at www.teverlast.wordpress.com

lyn joshua
4th February 2021, 04:29
Comparing the 2 versions
The Book of Revelations
"John and The Chariot Angels" at www.teverlast.wordpress.com,
* Do we need a retranslation of Scriptures in CONTEMPORARY slang and language???
* Is the old scriptural language outdated??
" How can 21st century minds understand the concepts in the Bible, Mahabharata, etc?
* Should theologians be updated in the 21st century mentality??
Good Luck in your future research!!! 👊👊👊👊

ExomatrixTV
4th February 2021, 09:32
@lyn joshua (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?30550-lyn-joshua)

Do real (flesh & blood) spiritual leaders, gurus, messengers (of all times) use: 01. allegories (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory) & 02. metaphors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor) based on 03. concepts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept) that helps you to have better 04. insights (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insight) to deal with certain hardships/questions in life? ... and now my rhetorical question: How much of 1, 2, 3 & 4 is very similar (or linked) to symbolism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolism)?

And are they (mostly) limited to the time when they were shared? ... OF COURSE THEY DO ... they all do, so no exceptions, same for Jesus, Buddha, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Prophet Mohamed, Hare Krishna, Deepak Chopra, Bashar (Darryl Anka), Greg Braden, Bill Ryan (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?9-Bill-Ryan-s-Threads), The Dalai Lama, Eckhart Tolle, James Redfield, Nassim Haramein, Alan Watts, Byron Katie, don Miguel Ruiz, Sadhguru, Mark Twain, Barbara Marciniak, Bhagwan Shri Rajneesh (Osho), Carlos Castaneda, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Michael Beckwith, Brian Weiss, Teal Swan, Russel Brand, Thich Nhat Hanh, Marianne Williamson, Bruce Lipton, Joe Dispenza, Neale Donald Walsch, Graham Hancock, Rupert Sheldrake etc. etc.

To assume they "must be flawless" is another mind-fck ... giving your own responsibility away to someone else's interpretation and your ability (or lack thereof) to make sense of it.

Making something "absolute" (absolutism) and taking almost everything literally is the opposite of true genuine (liberating) spirituality. All is intended to free you from fears that is holding you back to be who you suppose to be.

Having the gift to see beyond the obvious depends on how well you understand your own incompetence/shortcomings NOT to be replaced by some one elses "absolutes" but for you to find a way to access higher awareness of yourself. Your own connection with source which is a private & personal journey/quest & responsibility you do not impose on others.

To inspire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration) others is not the same as dictating others ;)


By the way: if you consider anything from "spiritual teachers/messengers" does not make you a (blind) "follower" per sé ... or worse being a "cult member"... you just appreciate unexplored territories of consciousness (expanding awareness) being expressed, that's all.

cheers,
Near Death Experiencer (NDE)
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
February 4th, 2021



Just a tiny fraction of spiritual teachers worldwide:

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The Physics of Spirituality | Nassim Haramein with Vishen Lakhiani:

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Patient
4th February 2021, 16:00
@lyn joshua (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?30550-lyn-joshua)

Do real (flesh & blood) spiritual leaders, gurus, messengers (of all times) use: 01. allegories (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory) & 02. metaphors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor) based on 03. concepts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept) that helps you to have better 04. insights (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insight) to deal with certain hardships/questions in life? ... and now my rhetorical question: How much of 1, 2, 3 & 4 is very similar (or linked) to symbolism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolism)?

And are they (mostly) limited to the time when they were shared? ... OF COURSE THEY DO ... they all do, so no exceptions, same for Jesus, Buddha, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Prophet Mohamed, Hare Krishna, Deepak Chopra, Bashar (Darryl Anka), Greg Braden, Bill Ryan (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?9-Bill-Ryan-s-Threads), The Dalai Lama, Eckhart Tolle, James Redfield, Nassim Haramein, Alan Watts, Byron Katie, don Miguel Ruiz, Sadhguru, Mark Twain, Barbara Marciniak, Bhagwan Shri Rajneesh (Osho), Carlos Castaneda, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Michael Beckwith, Brian Weiss, Teal Swan, Russel Brand, Thich Nhat Hanh, Marianne Williamson, Bruce Lipton, Joe Dispenza, Neale Donald Walsch, Graham Hancock, Rupert Sheldrake etc. etc.

To assume they "must be flawless" is another mind-fck ... giving your own responsibility away to someone else's interpretation and your ability (or lack thereof) to make sense of it.

Making something "absolute" (absolutism) and taking almost everything literally is the opposite of true genuine (liberating) spirituality. All is intended to free you from fears that is holding you back to be who you suppose to be.

Having the gift to see beyond the obvious depends on how well you understand your own incompetence/shortcomings NOT to be replaced by some one elses "absolutes" but for you to find a way to access higher awareness of yourself. Your own connection with source which is a private & personal journey/quest & responsibility you do not impose on others.

To inspire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration) others is not the same as dictating others ;)


By the way: if you consider anything from "spiritual teachers/messengers" does not make you a (blind) "follower" per sé ... or worse being a "cult member"... you just appreciate unexplored territories of consciousness (expanding awareness) being expressed, that's all.

cheers,
Near Death Experiencer (NDE)
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
February 4th, 2021



Just a tiny fraction of spiritual teachers worldwide:

Gdzj4mRKRoQ


The Physics of Spirituality | Nassim Haramein with Vishen Lakhiani:

gj5zRx7G_cs

Well said.

What jumped into my mind when reading both posts...if any of the old religious books rewritten, we would be guilty of what many people have said before and that is that it has been rewritten and is now different from its first meaning.

I can also see it in two ways. First, if it is brought up to date with current dialects and slang it could attract more people to reading it. Now secondly, if the meaning and deep direction is not set in a good and positive way it is a tool that could be used in a very dark manner.

You could really split people even more as the traditionalists would probably not be happy and the new followers could be another problem.

There is so much content that could be interpreted much differently than intended.

An interesting topic. Even if it was written with the best intentions, it could turn out wrong. Same as many posts have. :)

ExomatrixTV
5th February 2021, 12:51
What if most religions were originally intended to take away (y)our fears, are hijacked by those who claim "authority" using fears and focusing on you getting fearful especially if you dare to question anything that is claimed! ... and if that is not enough, they will add/use endless examples (real and/or manufactured or fake) confirming their pushed assumptions to keep you in perpetual state of fear forever.

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John Kuhles aka "ExomatrixTV"
February 5th, 2021

Lunesoleil
5th February 2021, 14:48
Are Religious Books Symbolic??
What would be fairer than the symbols they are allegories to stage and best captivate his audience. In the past there was a minority who could read, so the transmission was presented by stories told to be true ... Did you know between Christmas (December 25) and February 2 (Candlemas), there would be 40 days, I counted, there would only be 39, the nuance depends on the way you count ...