Barack Obama 2011

[Apofay]

boy it sure looks like it is her pointer finger? I count 3 knuckles to the left of the finger that is up. weird, anyway funny either way!

[jackovesk]

(Creepy) Why did Whitehouse (Delete) the last few Seconds out of 'Obama' Video?

President Obama answers student questions on a visit to an Australian high school. November 16, 2011.

Official White House Version

Watch near the end of clip @ 4min mark...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncB-tXrgO84

ABC Australia Official Version

Now Watch the (Original 1st Version) near the end of clip @ 4min mark...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFQHVIoLbI

PS - Don't know about you guys, but this entire interview, really gives me the 'Creeps'..! (Did you notice the wierd 'Eye Contact/Body Language' between these 2 crooks)..?

The words left out were...


Obama Quote: "He obviously was inspired while he was here by the Excellent Souls"

My Question is 'Why' leave that part out in the 1st place..?


Obama Quote: "And is married to a Tasmanian Wife."

Obama: Anyone who told you to be yourself couldn't have given you worse advice.

Are you always so stupid or was that day just a special occasion..?

Maybe he was just thinking about an 'ex-Basketballer', he was told to sack..?

Sorry for the post, but when I watched this Live on TV I got a really 'Bad Vibe' when Obama mentioned the word Souls..!

:noidea:

[RMorgan]

Well, I´ve heard Excellent Schools, not Excellent Souls...

I´m not a native english speaker anyway, so I might be wrong.

Cheers,

Raf.

[modwiz]

I have to tell you every time I see Gillard eyeing Obama it looks like someone who wants to ride a stallion.......badly. Very badly. If he were a cake she would have a fork in her pocket and her hand in that pocket. Sheesh, get these two a room!

[jackovesk]

I have to tell you every time I see Gillard eyeing Obama it looks liek someone who wants to ride a stallion.......badly. Very badly. If he were a cake she would have a fork in her pocket and her hand in that pocket. Sheesh, get these two a room!

No need to worry about that Modwiz, she wears a 'Beard'

More 'Importantly' those 'Doting Eyes' whilst almost (wetting herself) tells me she now knows she's ...
in (The Club)..!

[modwiz]

I have to tell you every time I see Gillard eyeing Obama it looks like someone who wants to ride a stallion.......badly. Very badly. If he were a cake she would have a fork in her pocket and her hand in that pocket. Sheesh, get these two a room!

No need to worry about that Modwiz, she wears a 'Beard'

More 'Importantly' those 'Doting Eyes' whilst almost (wetting herself) tells me she now knows she's ....in (The Club)..!

I know about her beard, Jack, but I have had a couple of 'bearded' ladies switch hit on me a few of times, so I know it happens. Chemistry, go figure.

[Fred Steeves]

What creeped me out the most was him describing the educational value of working with "programs" who work at getting toddlers and infants "up to snuff" for grammar school. If I were the parent of a newborn right now, that would make my blood curtle.

[buckminster fuller]

After all, all the camps built by FEMA those years might well be used. On the threshold of the drastic coming changes, they're contracting as many insurances as they can. I think it will not be enough this time..

[Eagle]

What more education does a child need then that of what his/her parents can teach them by example, Education today is based on passing tests and not expanding ideas.

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What creeped me out the most was him describing the educational value of working with "programs" who work at getting toddlers and infants "up to snuff" for grammar school. If I were the parent of a newborn right now, that would make my blood curtle.

What more education does a child need then that of what his/her parents can teach them by example, Education today is based on passing tests and not expanding ideas.

[modwiz]

What creeped me out the most was him describing the educational value of working with "programs" who work at getting toddlers and infants "up to snuff" for grammar school. If I were the parent of a newborn right now, that would make my blood curtle.

I gotta tell ya, the word snuff and children in the same group of words is blood curdling. Neurolinguistics reveal things that often want to be hidden by the persona/ego. Oops!

[Fred Steeves]

What creeped me out the most was him describing the educational value of working with "programs" who work at getting toddlers and infants "up to snuff" for grammar school. If I were the parent of a newborn right now, that would make my blood curtle.

I gotta tell ya, the word snuff and children in the same group of words is blood curdling. Neurolinguistics reveal things that often want to be hidden by the persona/ego. Oops!

Wo! I hadn't thought about it THAT way...Good catch...That's even more blood curDling.

[Siberia9]

BTW she is saying that Medviedev is head of APAC, not Obama, midddle finger. It means the same there as it does in the West, the finger that is.

[jackovesk]

BTW she is saying that Medviedev is head of APAC, not Obama, midddle finger. It means the same there as it does in the West, the finger that is.

G'Day Siberia9,

If at all possible could you do a 'Transcript' leading up to the 'Finger' for more clarity..?

Thanks

[Peace of Mind]

I thought the people called the shots…
I'm really not worried about this, I have great faith in humanity.

....BUT....

If this goes unchallenged by the masses…it will be a clear sign that my time here on this planet is up. I would not want to live in such a world where people refuse to stand up to their oppressors. It seems the people are well trained to be obedient slaves to their employees. This is backwards!! Why would anyone want to live this way?

Life is for the living, for the free. This will not be living, it’s slavery.

As the days pass bereavement follows. I can easily see myself making dangerous attempts to stop this from happening, in the least...my death would be a glorious one. I’d rather die fighting for our true liberty before volunteering to be a coward’s possession. There is no way I see myself existing in such conditions. What kind of happiness will there be? What will be left in life to live for?

I look at death differently than most, so I know I will be one of the few willing to sacrifice their own life to prevent this. I just hope my intentions will not be in vain. But then again, I’ll be at peace…knowing that I will no longer have to interact with a specie whom refuse to reach their full potential. If you can’t live the way you were meant to live... why live at all?

If they (the government) is going to do this, bring it on. Hopefully the people will wake up at his time. If not, then it’s been a good life for me… and I’ll look for my opportunity to make that grand exit. I will not stay to accompany the misery, instead I'll give a last effort to inspire the miserable to be the Gods they are.

Know Fear, No God. Know God, No fear.

Peace

[modwiz]

well Lord S

by working for them, i meant simply existing within their system, without choices...they don't need to recruit me, but every one does indirectly work for them, get my drift plz!!!

no heartwork...

I knew what you meant, sovietcanuckistanugget.
I was just making my own point.





Calling her tovarich probably won't win you many friends in Russia jackonugget.
Well, not unless they are communists.

No worries (Comrade), I'll take my chances...

Spassiba tovarich.

http://cs399.vkontakte.ru/u92574378/-5/m_0b2f0e9b.jpgNa zdorovie..!

Well, I used to love Stolichnaya.
In fact, I did it the Russian way, straight, no mixer out of the bottle.
These days I rarely drink.
But thanks anyways.

Shee-it! Drinking it any other way means you don't really enjoy drinking. Teenagers drink that way.

BTW, I do not drink......anymore. :nono:

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BTW she is saying that Medviedev is head of APAC, not Obama, midddle finger. It means the same there as it does in the West, the finger that is.

G'Day Siberia9,

If at all possible could you do a 'Transcript' leading up to the 'Finger' for more clarity..?

Thanks

I agree Jack. She may have been suggesting a prostate exam. You know, like she was looking out for his well being. :suspicious::pound::thumb:

[jackovesk]

Obama (Caught Out) Praising Australia then Stabbing Us in the Back in (Reverse)..!

http://www.davidoates.com/images/rsmainlogo.gif

Barack Obama in Australia

16th November 2011

http://www.reversespeech.com/imgs/obama-speech.jpg


Click on the 'Red Highlighted Links' to hear the Audio for yourself.

1/ Joint Press Conference with Prime Minister Gillard

Gillard: "In addition to discussing this Global Force Posture review by the United States and these new initiatives [in our alliance], the President of the United States and I have had an opportunity to reflect on a number of other issues." Snarl around it (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/gillard161111%20-%20snarl%20around%20it.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - given the direct complementarity of the forward and reverse dialogue, this reversal suggests there are problems in the alliance and Julia Gillard is unhappy about it

Obama: "We dis[cussed the whole range] of challenges where we stand shoulder to shoulder including Afghanistan." Their War had Sex (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20their%20war%20had%20sex.Mp3) - metaphor - he draws sexual energy from the war.

Obama: "[We've seen the awful loss of] life from 911 to Bali so I thanked the Prime Minister for Australia's strong commitment to this mission." The Soul if I Miss You (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20the%20soul%20if%20i%20miss%20you.Mp3) - unsure, possibly inner thoughts that his mention of them will somehow honor them.

Obama: "But our focus today as the Prime Minister has said was on preparing our alliance for the future so I am very [pleased that we are able] to make these announcements together on Australian soil." We'll Bury You with our Seal (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20we'll%20bury%20you%20with%20a%20seal.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - they intend to "bury" Australia and it will happen (seal, metaphor, to secure, agree)

Obama: "Once again I want to thank the Australian people for the kindness they showed me about 40 years ago and the kindness that they're showing me during my visit today. It's that friendship and that solidarity that [makes and keeps] our alliance one of the strongest in the world." I speak the (Scam) (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20i%20speak%20the%20scam.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - there are problems in the alliance and Obama is not being honest.

Obama: "The Australian people have [lost none of that] warmth." Bad when I'm Sulk (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20bad%20when%20I'm%20sulk.mp3) - internal dialogue - he is trying to keep his spirits up

Obama: "It also allows to respond to a whole host of new challenges like humanitarian or disaster relief that frankl[y, given how] large the Asian Pacific region is, it can sometimes be difficult to do." Bind the Big Deal (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20bind%20the%20big%20deal.Mp3) - he wants to secure the deal.

Obama: "...a rising peaceful China. What they've been able to achieve in terms of lifting 100s of millions of people out of poverty [over the last two decades has] been nothing short of remarkable." [/URL]This Dick had to Sell - negative sexual energy selling his program

Obama: "The main message that I've said not only publicly to the Chinese that with their rise comes increased responsibilities." [B][U]They forgot the Sodom (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20this%20dick%20had%20to%20sell.Mp3) - another negative sexual reversal around the Chinese.

Obama: "I think Prime Minister Gillard feels the same way that I do which is we would not be sending our young men and women into harms way unless we thought it was absolutely necessary for the security of our country." We got a New Mess (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20we%20got%20a%20new%20mess.Mp3) - (or we got an illness) - either way, its not good and something is brewing.

2/ Addressing the Australian Parliament

Gillard: "As friends we recognize the same spirit in the nation you lead, or as you would no doubt express it in your famous words, yes we can." Lay Down to Wheeze that Whore (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/gillard171111%20-%20lay%20down%20to%20wheeze%20that%20whore.Mp3) - not a pretty reversal - sliming up to Obama - images of Sodom and Gomorrah and the whore of Babylon come to mind.

Obama: "As an 8 [year old I couldn't] always understand your foreign language. Last night I did try and talk some strine." Look at Worry (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama171111%20-%20look%20at%20worry.Mp3) - a congruent reversal - worried that he couldn't understand the language.

Obama: "This morning I [was humbled] and deeply moved by a visit to your war memorial." More Muscle (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama171111%20-%20more%20muscle.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - he is thinking about military might.

Obama: "I know that some in this region have been worried about America's commitment to upholding these principals, [so let me] address this directly. As the United States puts our fiscal house in order we are reducing our spending." In a Loss (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama171111%20-%20in%20a%20loss.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - the United States is in a bad way financially.

Obama: "Building on our historic trade agreement with [South Korea we're working with Aus]tralia and our other Apec partners to create a seamless regional economy." Sodom, We Go Away. You fuss (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama171111%20-%20sodom%20we%20go%20away%20you%20fuss.Mp3) - incongruent reversal using the word, Sodom, again. Its meaning is unknown other than it is a negative sexual metaphor and has been found on Obama in the past.

http://www.reversespeech.com/obamaaust.htm

PS - I know some of you don't buy into 'Reverse Speech', but that is not the issue I see here...

Being a 'Political Junkie' I painstakingly watched, read & listened to what just about everything Obama had to say 'Down Under'...

All the time knowing he was 'LYING HIS ARSE OFF'..!

This just further compound my suspicions...

Take it for what you will...

Jack

[Lord Sidious]

500,000 is a huge number.
That is about 23% of all the prisoners held in US jails.

[Calz]

500,000 is a huge number.
That is about 23% of all the prisoners held in US jails.

Yep the law(s) are legit and are to accomodate taking who "they" want whenever the situation "needs" to protect to fascist police state.

500k is a sorcha number.

To be way too blunt ... it would be dramatically easier to kill that many than to imprison them.

Don't fall for the nonsense ...

[Lord Sidious]

Well Rad, I had a can of Jack Daniels and cola the other day to remember the birthday of Ofra Haza.
That can had been in the fridge at least for three months.
The other two are still there.
I just don't have a need for it so much anymore.

[modwiz]

Well Rad, I had a can of Jack Daniels and cola the other day to remember the birthday of Ofra Haza.
That can had been in the fridge at least for three months.
The other two are still there.
I just don't have a need for it so much anymore.

Good for you. At least you can drink and still remember. LOL

[taurad]

I knew what you meant, sovietcanuckistanugget.
I was just making my own point.



I'm not a sovietnugget, grew up in the eastern block thou, not that it matters, just clarifying!

can u elaborate what they wanted from u, had u accepted their offer?

[toad]

I don't get where this 500,000 figure even comes from. The more 'lone wolf terrorist' suspects they arrest and save, the more rational this will seem. I love how after the latest one, they showed a video of what could have happen if his bomb had went off.

[Lord Sidious]

I knew what you meant, sovietcanuckistanugget.
I was just making my own point.



I'm not a sovietnugget, grew up in the eastern block thou, not that it matters, just clarifying!

can u elaborate what they wanted from u, had u accepted their offer?

No, ya nugget, you live in sovietcanuckistan.
I don't know entirely, but I get the idea I would have ended up as a fall guy for something.

[Eric J (Viking)]

The Video That Will Get Obama Fired

Nov. 22, 2011

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Skeptical of his claims at first, Wiedemer showed me the chilling evidence (click here to see the same charts I saw that night).

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[jackovesk]

Obama (Caught Out) Praising Australia then Stabbing Us in the Back in (Reverse)..!

http://www.davidoates.com/images/rsmainlogo.gif

Barack Obama in Australia

16th November 2011

http://www.reversespeech.com/imgs/obama-speech.jpg


Click on the 'Red Highlighted Links' to hear the Audio for yourself.

1/ Joint Press Conference with Prime Minister Gillard

Gillard: "In addition to discussing this Global Force Posture review by the United States and these new initiatives [in our alliance], the President of the United States and I have had an opportunity to reflect on a number of other issues." Snarl around it (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/gillard161111%20-%20snarl%20around%20it.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - given the direct complementarity of the forward and reverse dialogue, this reversal suggests there are problems in the alliance and Julia Gillard is unhappy about it

Obama: "We dis[cussed the whole range] of challenges where we stand shoulder to shoulder including Afghanistan." Their War had Sex (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20their%20war%20had%20sex.Mp3) - metaphor - he draws sexual energy from the war.

Obama: "[We've seen the awful loss of] life from 911 to Bali so I thanked the Prime Minister for Australia's strong commitment to this mission." The Soul if I Miss You (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20the%20soul%20if%20i%20miss%20you.Mp3) - unsure, possibly inner thoughts that his mention of them will somehow honor them.

Obama: "But our focus today as the Prime Minister has said was on preparing our alliance for the future so I am very [pleased that we are able] to make these announcements together on Australian soil." We'll Bury You with our Seal (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20we'll%20bury%20you%20with%20a%20seal.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - they intend to "bury" Australia and it will happen (seal, metaphor, to secure, agree)

Obama: "Once again I want to thank the Australian people for the kindness they showed me about 40 years ago and the kindness that they're showing me during my visit today. It's that friendship and that solidarity that [makes and keeps] our alliance one of the strongest in the world." I speak the (Scam) (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20i%20speak%20the%20scam.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - there are problems in the alliance and Obama is not being honest.

Obama: "The Australian people have [lost none of that] warmth." Bad when I'm Sulk (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20bad%20when%20I'm%20sulk.mp3) - internal dialogue - he is trying to keep his spirits up

Obama: "It also allows to respond to a whole host of new challenges like humanitarian or disaster relief that frankl[y, given how] large the Asian Pacific region is, it can sometimes be difficult to do." Bind the Big Deal (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20bind%20the%20big%20deal.Mp3) - he wants to secure the deal.

Obama: "...a rising peaceful China. What they've been able to achieve in terms of lifting 100s of millions of people out of poverty [over the last two decades has] been nothing short of remarkable." [/URL]This Dick had to Sell - negative sexual energy selling his program

Obama: "The main message that I've said not only publicly to the Chinese that with their rise comes increased responsibilities." [B][U]They forgot the Sodom (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20this%20dick%20had%20to%20sell.Mp3) - another negative sexual reversal around the Chinese.

Obama: "I think Prime Minister Gillard feels the same way that I do which is we would not be sending our young men and women into harms way unless we thought it was absolutely necessary for the security of our country." We got a New Mess (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama161111%20-%20we%20got%20a%20new%20mess.Mp3) - (or we got an illness) - either way, its not good and something is brewing.

2/ Addressing the Australian Parliament

Gillard: "As friends we recognize the same spirit in the nation you lead, or as you would no doubt express it in your famous words, yes we can." Lay Down to Wheeze that Whore (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/gillard171111%20-%20lay%20down%20to%20wheeze%20that%20whore.Mp3) - not a pretty reversal - sliming up to Obama - images of Sodom and Gomorrah and the whore of Babylon come to mind.

Obama: "As an 8 [year old I couldn't] always understand your foreign language. Last night I did try and talk some strine." Look at Worry (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama171111%20-%20look%20at%20worry.Mp3) - a congruent reversal - worried that he couldn't understand the language.

Obama: "This morning I [was humbled] and deeply moved by a visit to your war memorial." More Muscle (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama171111%20-%20more%20muscle.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - he is thinking about military might.

Obama: "I know that some in this region have been worried about America's commitment to upholding these principals, [so let me] address this directly. As the United States puts our fiscal house in order we are reducing our spending." In a Loss (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama171111%20-%20in%20a%20loss.Mp3) - incongruent reversal - the United States is in a bad way financially.

Obama: "Building on our historic trade agreement with [South Korea we're working with Aus]tralia and our other Apec partners to create a seamless regional economy." Sodom, We Go Away. You fuss (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/obama171111%20-%20sodom%20we%20go%20away%20you%20fuss.Mp3) - incongruent reversal using the word, Sodom, again. Its meaning is unknown other than it is a negative sexual metaphor and has been found on Obama in the past.

http://www.reversespeech.com/obamaaust.htm

PS - I know some of you don't buy into 'Reverse Speech', but that is not the issue I see here...

Being a 'Political Junkie' I painstakingly watched, read & listened to what just about everything Obama had to say 'Down Under'...

All the time knowing he was 'LYING HIS ARSE OFF'..!

This just further compound my suspicions...

Take it for what you will...

Jack

[ktlight]

"Corzine is without a doubt directly responsible for the $600 million in missing funds, but because he regularly has $35,800 per plate fundraisers for Obama, he remains free while Celente and other MF Global clients are left wondering if they will ever see their money again. Interestingly, when MF Global had their latest bond offering, it said right in the prospectus that if Corzine was appointed by Obama to become Treasury Secretary and confirmed by Congress, those MF Global investors would receive 1% in extra interest on their bonds. The only good thing that will come out of MF Global's bankruptcy is that Corzine now has no chance of becoming Treasury Secretary and bankrupting our country in less than two years like he did to MF Global and almost did to the State of New Jersey. Unfortunately, the U.S. will likely experience hyperinflation in less than two years no matter who is Treasury Secretary, because we are at a point where our debt can only be paid back through monetization by the Federal Reserve."

Part 1
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Part 2
tDKHrHMhUc8

[Kristin]

A warning about "Gold Certificates" apparently they are selling more certificates then there is gold. 10 times more by some estimates. I would avoid them at all costs, LOL.

My $.02,
Wormhole

[RMorgan]

A warning about "Gold Certificates" apparently they are selling more certificates then there is gold. 10 times more by some estimates. I would avoid them at all costs, LOL.

My $.02,
Wormhole

Of course. What´s the point of buying gold if you buy it in the form of paper? :)

If you decide to buy gold, buy gold and take it to your home. Don´t even leave it at the bank.

[Kristin]

Better yet, buy seed and land. You can't eat gold unless you are starving and you've already eaten the piano. LOL

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[ThePythonicCow]

A warning about "Gold Certificates" apparently they are selling more certificates then there is gold. 10 times more by some estimates. I would avoid them at all costs, LOL.
Who's "they"? I doubt that a generic warning that could cover many situations, is a useful warning.

[Second Son]

Vui goveriti Paruski oshi herasho, Sid.

[taurad]

No, ya nugget, you live in sovietcanuckistan.


all right, gotcha

:o

[taurad]

I don't know entirely, but I get the idea I would have ended up as a fall guy for something.


before my dad died, not too long ago, he told me a little secret, from our past in the BLOCK...

he found out our closest neighbor (considered a friend of the family, his whole family was one of the closest to us for about 27yrs), had been forcibly recruited to "keep an eye on us", us been labeled "enemy of state"...

when i asked my dad how reliable the info was, he said, the neighbor took him aside one day (years after the system crashed down), with tears in his eyes 'fessed to the whole story, and asked for forgiveness...

he said he never fed them much, only positive feedback...

it is shocking to think how unsafe this planet can get, trust is an illusion...

human life is an illusion, only sequences of debatable perceptions...

cheers

[NeverMind]

Calling her tovarich probably won't win you many friends in Russia jackonugget.
Well, not unless they are communists.

Or men, for that matter. :)

But seriously, I am hoping this is some sort of hoax, or at least a very stupid drunken bet that she - presumably - won (yay!), because, frankly, it's just rude. Not to mention unprofessional.
(Still, as a colleague of hers, I HAVE to mention it.)

It also achieves nothing - except her being justifiably sacked, that is.
Every profession has its own set of rules.
If you don't like them, nobody is forcing you to play the game.
It's as simple as that.

[Lord Sidious]

Vui goveriti Paruski oshi herasho, Sid.

Sorry nugget, I don't get ya.
Something about speaking, but that is all I get.

[NeverMind]

Sorry nugget, I don't get ya.
Something about speaking, but that is all I get.

S/he is saying that you speak Russian very well. :)

Shouldn't have I waited for the person to clarify it themselves?
Yes, I should have.

Somebody should give me the middle finger, too. :-)

[Lord Sidious]

Sorry nugget, I don't get ya.
Something about speaking, but that is all I get.

S/he is saying that you speak Russian very well. :)

Shouldn't have I waited for the person to clarify it themselves?
Yes, I should have.

Somebody should give me the middle finger, too. :-)

I thought it might be something along those lines, but my Russian is very basic, although I can read some cyrillic at times.

[NeverMind]

I thought it might be something along those lines, but my Russian is very basic, although I can read some cyrillic at times.

What, no middle finger, then?

:-)


Still hoping the entire thing is a hoax.

[Second Son]

"You speak Russian very well, Sid."

[Lord Sidious]

"You speak Russian very well, Sid."

I got the ''peruski'' part but that was all.
Russian is a language I always wanted to learn.

[Second Son]

*flipping nevermind the bird*

[jackovesk]

Calling her tovarich probably won't win you many friends in Russia jackonugget.
Well, not unless they are communists.

Or men, for that matter. :)

But seriously, I am hoping this is some sort of hoax, or at least a very stupid drunken bet that she - presumably - won (yay!), because, frankly, it's just rude. Not to mention unprofessional.
(Still, as a colleague of hers, I HAVE to mention it.)

It also achieves nothing - except her being justifiably sacked, that is.
Every profession has its own set of rules.
If you don't like them, nobody is forcing you to play the game.
It's as simple as that.

I beg to differ NeverMind,


(Still, as a colleague of hers, I HAVE to mention it.)

It also achieves nothing - except her being justifiably sacked, that is.

Let me start off by saying, being a 'Colleague of Hers' you must know that Obama is a 'Perpetual Lier' bringing untold 'Pain & Death' to humanity..!

So, I say any 'Publicity' that poses the obvious Question 'Why/What made her do that'..? Thus focussing the Attention back on Obama is a good thing, regardless of 'Journalist Ethics'...

IMHO - There should be 'More' of it...

[jackovesk]

‘Company Policy: We are not hiring until Obama is Gone’

11 Alive
Wedneday, November 23, 2011

A west Georgia business owner is stirring up controversy with signs he posted on his company's trucks, for all to see as the trucks roll up and down roads, highways and interstates:

"New Company Policy: We are not hiring until Obama is gone."

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/november2011/231111feature4.jpg


"Can't afford it," explained the employer, Bill Looman, Tuesday evening. "I've got people that I want to hire now, but I just can't afford it. And I don't foresee that I'll be able to afford it unless some things change in D.C."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXA005YXd_g

Source: http://www.11alive.com/news/article/214228/3/Company-Policy-We-are-not-hiring...

PS - Noticed the 'Ramp Up' on the MSM 'Anti-Obama' stories lately..?

Watch your back 'Barry' your usefullness to your 'Puppetmasters' is wearing a little 'Thin'..!

http://hellogiggles.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/obama_speech.gif

[ktlight]

"In this Perth Writers Festival talk, Tariq Ali argues that very little has changed since George W Bush left the White House -- especially when it comes to foreign affairs. Writer and filmmaker Tariq Ali has written seven novels and over 20 books on world history and politics (including The Clash of Fundamentalisms, Bush in Babylon, Pirates of the Caribbean , The Duel and The Obama Syndrome ). He has also penned a number of plays for stage and screen. He currently worked as an editor for New Left Review . Presented by the Perth Writers Festival, March 2011."

MvSnVySG3Ic

[jackovesk]

Forgive me all...

I left out the PSS...

PSS - Not until Obama gives the 'Green Light' on the PTW Go-Ahead to attack Iran..!

Then they 'Will' get rid of him..!

[Second Son]

I admire any anchorperson willing to dare be more than just a talking head, and interject their own sense of outrage into a "news" broadcast. Until evryone, no matter what their profession, is brassy enough to call it like they see it, no matter the taboo of the suject matter, or the forum, we are all diminished in some way. And if we the people are diminished, THEY are strengthened somehow. Whoever said that riteous indignation, rage, and outspokeness was politically incorrect? I'll tell you who, the bastards at the top of the pile, that stand to lose in a big way if we rock the boat, that's who.... AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

[Kristin]

Paul,
Here is a good place to start your research or add to the knowledge base of anyone interested in gold, audits, and matters concerning certificates. Oh, and Happy Thanksgiving!
http://goldnews.com/2011/07/05/auditing-the-treasurys-gold/
From the Heart,
Wormhole

"Currently the quantity of gold reserved for gold certificates still does not keep par with the amount of gold certificates issued to the Federal Reserve Banks. The Treasury as of June 30, 2011 states their gold holdings at $10,923,545,206 and the Federal Reserve as of the same date reports gold certificate holdings at $11,037 million. The only way for the Treasury to square the gold reserves and the Federal Reserve’s gold certificate holdings is to include their working stock of gold, valued at $117,513,614 on June 30-2011, as a gold reserve."

[alienHunter]

Question: Why continue to let the Repubtilians dictate the course of history. Of course, Obama is having a monstrously difficult time turning the economy around. It's what the Repubtilians want.

[Davidallany]

Obama is just a puppet among numerous puppets and they are cheaper by the dozen. The Vatican should be closed, papacy should be ended and the monarchy in England dismantled.

[alienHunter]

well, I can certainly go for the England part...

[baddbob]

Ref, Thanks for the post. Very interesting. I use to think Alex was a little over the top, But I figured out its just his style.
Alex puts out a lot of info that the people would be unaware of .

Ive allways wondered about Alex Jones a lot of his info seems to have truth to it.Is infowars a good place for the truth?

[christian]

Ref, Thanks for the post. Very interesting. I use to think Alex was a little over the top, But I figured out its just his style.
Alex puts out a lot of info that the people would be unaware of .

Ive allways wondered about Alex Jones a lot of his info seems to have truth to it.Is infowars a good place for the truth?

The truth is best discerned by yourself, just accepting someone else's conclusion will never really work out, the paradigm shift is all about self-responsibility. - This is exactly what Alex promotes as well, so it's a good place to look for information, I figure. Just one caveat, as he would put it, he and his website do not present everything that he found out, as he wants to reach Average Joe, he wants to get across the basics and does usually not cover stories, that are very hard to wrap your head around at first sight, he says there is no point for him in doing so when some people don't even believe that there are FEMA camps, although it's official.

[Lord Sidious]

THE "SHTF' yesterday I went to one of my homepage links and the screen went to " This Site is Currently Unavailable"
The site was www.wemustknow.net
Let me know if any of you can get it, I have alot of hinky stuff going on.....

Blessings and Love,
V

Not available to me either.

[NeverMind]

Calling her tovarich probably won't win you many friends in Russia jackonugget.
Well, not unless they are communists.

Or men, for that matter. :)

But seriously, I am hoping this is some sort of hoax, or at least a very stupid drunken bet that she - presumably - won (yay!), because, frankly, it's just rude. Not to mention unprofessional.
(Still, as a colleague of hers, I HAVE to mention it.)

It also achieves nothing - except her being justifiably sacked, that is.
Every profession has its own set of rules.
If you don't like them, nobody is forcing you to play the game.
It's as simple as that.

I beg to differ NeverMind,


(Still, as a colleague of hers, I HAVE to mention it.)

It also achieves nothing - except her being justifiably sacked, that is.

Let me start off by saying, being a 'Colleague of Hers' you must know that Obama is a 'Perpetual Lier' bringing untold 'Pain & Death' to humanity..!

So, I say any 'Publicity' that poses the obvious Question 'Why/What made her do that'..? Thus focussing the Attention back on Obama is a good thing, regardless of 'Journalist Ethics'...

IMHO - There should be 'More' of it...



As any journalist and any human being, she is free (I hope!) to talk and write whatever she wishes... on her own time.
She can publish a blog, she can write for newspapers, she can fly kites with her own views written all over them, for all I care...

She is NOT free to impose her own personal views and opinions on people who expect a factual REPORT - not a commentary, a report.
She agreed to abide by the rules of her profession, or she would not have become a journalist.
Maybe it's time for her to reconsider her choice of profession.

But it was probably just a drunken bet, anyway. :)

[alienHunter]

good point...She IS communist isn't she...a.k.a. The sworn enemy of all Repubtilians and some real Americans.

[eric charles]

buying it in the form of paper , look where that got Gerald Celente my friends

[Lord Sidious]

Russian newsreader fired after 'giving Obama the finger'


http://en.rian.ru/images/16900/64/169006461.jpg

A Russian newsreader who was reported to have given U.S. President Barack Obama the finger while on air was dismissed on Thursday.

Award-winning REN TV presenter Tatiana Limanova made the gesture while reading Obama's name during a November 14 item on the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) conference. Online footage of the incident has since gone viral.

But REN TV said Limanova's gesture was not aimed at Obama, but was rather a response to her “editorial staff” colleagues, who were standing off camera and trying to distract her, for a joke. It was not, REN TV stressed in a statement, "linked to the item being presented by Limanova.”

Limanova said she did not know she was on camera when she made the gesture, an explanation that failed to impress the REN TV bosses.

“This does not diminish her guilt and cannot be considered an excuse. The REN TV management views this action as the gravest violation of on-air discipline and a demonstration of unprofessionalism,” the channel said.

Limanova is not the only Russian newsreader to have made the headlines for similar discrepancies in recent years.

Irada Zeinalova of the state-run Channel One TV channel has sworn at least twice on camera. In one such incident, her anger was directed at a small boy who accidentally distracted her while she was recording a standup.

http://en.ria.ru/strange/20111124/169006185.html

[alienHunter]

the lady isn't such a lady...

[Kristin]

Yes indeed, here's Gerald's beef on Alex Jones:
http://www.infowars.com/gerald-celentes-gold-account-was-emptied-by-mf-global/

This creates the question of not "Why" do we continue but "How" do we stop it. That one is deep and we may find an answer in that our peaceful numbers are many.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[eric charles]

i dont get it jacko , all the RED highlighted material seems to be made up ?

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

The reverse speech thing has always plagued me since the early days of judas priest and black sabbath. I don't quite understand how it works. Maybe a thread on revrese speeches and some examples that could be confirmed would be good...?

Nevertheless, good work jack.

PVM

[ktlight]

THE "SHTF' yesterday I went to one of my homepage links and the screen went to " This Site is Currently Unavailable"
The site was www.wemustknow.net
Let me know if any of you can get it, I have alot of hinky stuff going on.....

Blessings and Love,
V

Not available to me either.

Not available for anyone.


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[taizen]

The game's afoot. What if there was a nuclear power plant 'accident'? HHHmmmmm. Where have we heard this before?

[Lord Sidious]

Obama isn't always consistent?
No way.
Get outta here. :p

[RMorgan]

Hi guys, check this out! :)

"A protester handed President Barack Obama a note while shaking hands along a rope line in New Hampshire today. AP photographer Charlie Dharapak smartly zoomed in so you can read the note for yourself."

http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/obama11.jpg

http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/obama22.jpg

Link:

http://www.disinfo.com/2011/11/protester-slips-obama-a-note/

Cheers,

Raf.

[spiritguide]

This is just beating a dead horse at this point, but it has been pointed out that one of Obama's mottos is to keep his friends close, and his enemies closer, which is a kind of psychological Aikido which might, in the long run, prove to have been very effective indeed.

It has also been pointed out that a person is known by the friends he keeps. Besides, OBAMA lied to the people many times publically and has violated international law (Various UN peace resolutions). Any group in the universe that supports this type of behavior is the one we should be leary of. IMHO

When he supports the repeal of the patriot act and arrests the crooks in his administration (attorney general) and all others, then I might look at it differently. Until then beware of the stranger bearing gifts.

:peace:

[onawah]

The question remains however, given how far government in the world has been taken over now by TPTW, how much could one well meaning individual in the office of POTUS actually do?
Does he actually have any power at all?
(IMHO, comparing the power that past Presidents may have had is irrelevant, at this juncture).
It may well be that ANYONE who is POTUS now would be forced by those who hold the real power to do their bidding, or else.
In other words, is it possible that his karmic contract for this lifetime was to become President right at the time when the transfer of power would begin to go back to the people, so that, though he would be powerless during his first term, he would have enough to make a difference in his second term, should he be reelected?
I'm not saying that I support Obama. That is not my point at all.
I'm just open to entertaining these possibilities.
And as to this question, no list of abhorrent policies which the Obama Administration has implememented will answer the question.
Only time will tell.

[lslimerick]

Has anyone considered the fact that maybe Mathew is correct in the sense that Obama is the one that was going to wake a lot of people up, people believed in him and reasonated with his message, then he got elected, fouled up his swearing in as President and from that moment on, has lied, bombed, laughed his way through - BUT looked what has happened, most people now realize they were taken in with words, the dont trust ANY side of the political stage and has really aided the wakening up process......

So yes I do believe he is fulfilling his role, nobody said he role was going to be what we wanted......He has done humanity a great service, IMO....keep it up Obama, you are helping our side and I thank you....

[toad]

I find the releasing of the new 15ton bunker busters into the middle east kind of interesting.

http://www.bitsofnews.com/images/graphics/war/massive_ordnance_penetrator_bomb_large.jpg

Almost like a direct threat, without threatening anyone. Capable of penetrating 200ft, when we speculate Irans facilities are roughly 198ft underground.




Boeing delivers first batch of 30,000-pound bombs to Air Force
The Massive Ordnance Penetrator — the Air Force has ordered 20 from Boeing — is nearly five tons heavier than any other bomb in the military's arsenal and is made to pulverize underground targets.


http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2011-11/66140378.jpg
An artist's rendering of the Massive Ordnance Penetrator, a 30,000-pound… (Boeing Co.)
November 16, 2011|By W.J. Hennigan, Los Angeles Times

Aerospace giant Boeing Co. has delivered the first batch of 30,000-pound bombs, each nearly five tons heavier than anything else in the military's arsenal, to the U.S. Air Force to pulverize underground enemy hide-outs.

At a total cost of about $314 million, the military has developed and ordered 20 of the GPS-guided bombs, called Massive Ordnance Penetrators. They are designed to be dropped on targets by the Boeing-made B-52 Stratofortress long-range bomber or Northrop Grumman Corp.'s B-2 stealth bomber.
In an age of new emphasis on drones and lightweight weaponry, the Air Force's purchase highlights the Pentagon's ongoing need for defense contractors to build the kinds of big bombs and other heavy-duty ordnance they have produced for decades.

Packed with more than 5,300 pounds of explosives and more than 20 feet long, the giant bunker-busting bombs were tested at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, the site of the first atomic bomb test during World War II.

Earlier this month, Brig. Gen. Scott Vander Hamm, who oversees the B-2 fleet at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, told Air Force Magazine that there is "no other weapon that can get after those hard and deeply buried targets" like the Massive Ordnance Penetrator. It "is specifically designed to go after very dense targets … where enemies are putting things that the president of the United States wants to hold at risk."

Citing national security concerns, the Pentagon hasn't allowed Boeing to comment about the program. But the company's past news releases and publicly disclosed Air Force contract announcements indicate that Boeing developed and built the massive bomb at its Phantom Works facilities in St. Louis, where the company works on top-secret projects.

Although illustrations and models of the bomb have been made public, no photos have been released. But the Air Force did disclose that it took delivery of the weapon in September, along with a few other details.

The weapon's explosive power is 10 times greater than its bunker-buster predecessor, the BLU-109. And it is nearly five tons heavier than the 22,600-pound GBU-43 MOAB surface bomb, sometimes called the "mother of all bombs."

"The Massive Ordnance Penetrator is a weapon system designed to accomplish a difficult, complicated mission of reaching and destroying our adversaries' weapons of mass destruction located in well-protected facilities," Lt. Col. Melinda F. Morgan, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said in a statement.

Experts took note of the fact that the military disclosed delivery of the new bunker-busting bomb less than a week after a United Nations agency warned that Iran was secretly working to develop a nuclear weapon. That country is known to have hidden nuclear complexes that are fortified with steel and concrete, and buried under mountains.

"Heck of a coincidence, isn't it?" said John Pike, director of Globalsecurity.org, a website for military policy research. "The military hasn't said what underground facility they need to blow up with this thing. Whether it's in Iran or North Korea or somewhere else, I don't know. But they've been asking for this weapon for years."

When U.S. forces initially went looking for Osama bin Laden among the caves in Afghanistan, they discovered the locations were deeply buried and would be difficult to penetrate with existing bombs. The soldiers' concerns were supported years later in Iraq when military personnel came across underground tunnel systems belonging to Saddam Hussein.

In 2004, a Pentagon science board task force issued a report called "Future Strategic Strike Forces." In it, the task force said that existing non-nuclear weapons were too weak and recommended that a new weapon be developed "to improve conventional attack effectiveness against deep, expansive, underground tunnel facilities."

"Our past test experience has shown that 2,000-pound penetrators carrying 500 pounds of high explosive are relatively ineffective against tunnels, even when skipped directly into the tunnel entrance," the report said. "Instead, several thousand pounds of high explosives coupled to the tunnel are needed to blow down blast doors and propagate a lethal air blast throughout a typical tunnel complex."

By 2009, with concerns about Iran's and North Korea's missile capabilities reaching new highs, the Pentagon said there was an "urgent operational need" to speed up the weapon development process.

The Air Force and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency conducted tests at White Sands, and Boeing delivered the first Massive Ordnance Penetrator this fall. Additional deliveries are expected to be

[jackovesk]

Unfortunately, Obama is just going to throw that note in a bin and say to himself (Good to see my Policies are working)..!

[Laura Elina]

Well, at least there is a picture of him with the note in his hand. Can't say he didn't get the memo.

[christian]

That begs the question, what does it take for a psychopath to realize the true horror of his own deeds?

[jackovesk]

That begs the question, what does it take for a psychopath to realize the true horror of his own deeds?

He and His 'Puppetmasters' realize exactly what 'True Horrors' they are inflicting on the people and that's exactly why they continue to do it...

[christian]

That begs the question, what does it take for a psychopath to realize the true horror of his own deeds?

He and His 'Puppetmasters' realize exactly what 'True Horrors' they are inflicting on the people and that's exactly why they continue to do it...

If they would truly realize it, they would know, that all is one, you get what you give and opressing and torturing someone is actually cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

I find, they live in delusion as they apparently must think, they are seperate from everything else or at least from some portions of all-that-is.

Let me formulate it differently, what does it take a psychopath to realize, that we are all one and thus become genuinely compassionate?

[jackovesk]

That begs the question, what does it take for a psychopath to realize the true horror of his own deeds?

He and His 'Puppetmasters' realize exactly what 'True Horrors' they are inflicting on the people and that's exactly why they continue to do it...

If they would truly realize it, they would know, that all is one, you get what you give and opressing and torturing someone is actually cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

I find, they live in delusion as they apparently must think, they are seperate from everything else or at least from some portions of all-that-is.

Let me formulate it differently, what does it take a psychopath to realize, that we are all one and thus become genuinely compassionate?

Unforfortunately chiquetet, if you honestly believe that about Obama & his Masters?

It is you who may be suffering from delusion my friend...

They continue to work their plan and know exactly what they are doing and to whom they are doing it too..!

[onawah]

Very true, lslimerick. The Democrats and Progressives have been guilty of political naivety too and needed a good wakeup call.
Though I don't really think Ron Paul or any Independent are necessarily going to be the solution either.
It just all goes so much deeper than that, which is the home truth that the sleepers must awaken to.

[christian]

I have no fixed opinion on this. Obama's background and track record are quite telling.

Is it all designed for him to wade through this to eventually wake up and become a true servant of humanity? Theoretically it's possible, I'd appreciate it, but I surely won't just sit here and wait for it to happen as I intend to facilitate the change I want to see.

Being strictly against something helps to perpetuate it. I'd be more than happy to welcome Obama as a fellow light warrior, if his actual deeds give reason to believe this.

[Referee]

If OBAMA Wanted to do something about Peace He would have. I call BS. That is why you can never trust Channelled INFO! Obama simply works for the globalists starts WAR and destroy's the US Economy. He dose what he is told and personally I think he may be AI.

[Aryslan]

Haha, this can't be a real article. Can people really be that blind?

[Arc]

I have no fixed opinion on this. Obama's background and track record are quite telling.

Is it all designed for him to wade through this to eventually wake up and become a true servant of humanity? Theoretically it's possible, I'd appreciate it, but I surely won't just sit here and wait for it to happen as I intend to facilitate the change I want to see.

Being strictly against something helps to perpetuate it. I'd be more than happy to welcome Obama as a fellow light warrior, if his actual deeds give reason to believe this.

I like how you put it. I am more than willing to welcome anyone into the tide of change - if they are genuine.

In the mean time, I encourage folks to ponder this.

eAaQNACwaLw

[alienHunter]

You were a fan until Matthew said something that I recognize as the truth but that you disagree with and then you said pfffft?

[Enquiring1]

Hmmmmm Im looking at the people who Obama has surrounded himself with. You dont have to look hard to see that they are the same ones who have had a big part in directing the world into the mire its in now.

Not to mention Hilary Clinton who has revealed herself as a complete pychopath.

The evidence is not pointing to Obamas favour.

[robinr1]

If OBAMA Wanted to do something about Peace He would have. I call BS. That is why you can never trust Channelled INFO! Obama simply works for the globalists starts WAR and destroy's the US Economy. He dose what he is told and personally I think he may be AI.

this and only this.....he has literally broken every campaign promise and killed 10000s of people worldwide with his senseless wars

[risveglio]

If OBAMA Wanted to do something about Peace He would have. I call BS. That is why you can never trust Channelled INFO! Obama simply works for the globalists starts WAR and destroy's the US Economy. He dose what he is told and personally I think he may be AI.

this and only this.....he has literally broken every campaign promise and killed 10000s of people worldwide with his senseless wars

Let's not forget this raids of Medical Marijuana facilities. His choosing a Monsanto exec as his food czar. His science czar that wants to sterilize the population secretly. His choosing all the Bush cronies to run the economy. Yeah, its all just one great cover up. Gee Wally, that's swell.

[alienHunter]

Rev Wright was a red herring. Obama while playing the middle game (pretending to be a church goer to satisfy the fanatics) gave the impression he is a passionate Christian, he's not. He's simply a typical 'believe in God' kind of guy. He probably didn't even know Wright. William Ayers was a fake revolutionary with a brilliant mind...nothing wrong with that. Chu (Nobel prize winning physicist), Van Jones, a brilliant activist that would be instrumental in transforming America's energy front (destroyed by the Repubtilians). The list goes on.

[Seikou-Kishi]

According to Bob Dean, The GFL is not bogus, but quite real.
While I read all channeled info with liberal helpings of salt, there is often some truth contained therein.
On this issue, as on so many, we may make as many proclamations as we like, but only time will tell.

Lol, well Barack Obama is real, but it doesn't stop him being bogus.

[Maia Gabrial]

If Obama is such a great president, then why have the White Hats proven that he's stolen billions of dollars of OUR money? And trying to hide it....

My son's girlfriend was unaware of some of Obama's activities, so I enlightened her. She was shocked to say the least....
How many others like her are unaware of what's going on with this president or the govt? Ain't getting the facts from Lame Stream, that's for sure....

[onawah]

For that matter, how do you know that that story from the "White Hats" is true, given how much our media is controlled?
That could have been a very skillful disinfo project.
The rabbit holes go so deep these days, the only thing I rely on ultimately is my own intuition.


If Obama is such a great president, then why have the White Hats proven that he's stolen billions of dollars of OUR money? And trying to hide it....

My son's girlfriend was unaware of some of Obama's activities, so I enlightened her. She was shocked to say the least....
How many others like her are unaware of what's going on with this president or the govt? Ain't getting the facts from Lame Stream, that's for sure....

[Seikou-Kishi]

Not that I'm one to speak in Obama's defence, though I recall it's happened before (I'd better not let this become a habit); but it seems to me that we cannot really verify that any inside information is truly of 'white hat' origin and not black hat material passed off as white hat origin; if he were a 'white hat', it would be in the black hat's interests to create what illusions were necessary to make him appear not to be.

[Mu2143]

According to Bob Dean, The GFL is not bogus, but quite real.
While I read all channeled info with liberal helpings of salt, there is often some truth contained therein.
On this issue, as on so many, we may make as many proclamations as we like, but only time will tell.

Wrong !! he never talked about it that he was affiliated with the channeled information from the so called GFL here on the internet . He simply replied that there is a "GFL of some sort" he never said it.
You made up your own mind from what you wanted to hear not what he really was saying. Thats what I mean with you have ears to hear ,but you do not hear!.

If your looking for half truths ........hmm let me translate that........ If your looking for lies ......

GOD 100% truth if it is not from him it is lies even if it contain some truth.

[Mu2143]

The "Ashtar Command" and the Galactic Federation of Light are two separate entities. When dealing with channeled information follow your instincts, your Higher-self knows the truth.
The two compartmentalized of the snake party.

[mountain_jim]

In the past the 'white hat' info that Kerry keeps linking to appeared to me to be biased in favor of the Hillary camp, who we know is up to no good.

I agree with the posts above which point to his many actions and appointees, which is all we really have to go on, that he has done an excellent job as a puppet of his masters, little different than recent previous presidents.

I still have an open mind to a faint hope that he does something to 'save the day' and throw off the yoke of his masters, but my hope is indeed quite faint on this.

[Dennis Leahy]

How many days after the swearing-in ceremony did Obama authorize drone bombings in Pakistan? How many people - almost ALL civilians, many of whom are women and children - have died in the 6 or 7 or 8 countries that the US is in undeclared wars with, since Obama became "commander in chief?"

The Executive branch of the US government (one of three branches) includes the president, vice-president, cabinet, and presidential appointees. Each of the three branches of government have approximately 500 individuals at or near the top-tier. So, the office of the president is responsible for appointing about 1/3 of the 1500 or so people that actually run the (visible) US government. The appointments can be seen as critical, and telling. A yardstick of intent. Obama's appointees are corporatists and banksters. The US government, switching hands from the infamous "W" Bush to Obama, has become more corrupt, more sinister, more war-mongering, more prone to collusion, and even less compassionate.

The ONLY way Obama can be seen as a "good guy" is by reading and believing the early campaign rhetoric. The rhetoric versus the reality are in astoundingly stark contrast. I don't know if ANY channeled "information" is accurate or not, but I know that anyone who says they are receiving messages from aliens or angels or spirits, telling them that Obama is really a "good guy", is a big fat liar.

Dennis

[Moemers]

Voting is oppression.

[Referee]

For that matter, how do you know that that story from the "White Hats" is true, given how much our media is controlled?
That could have been a very skillful disinfo project.
The rabbit holes go so deep these days, the only thing I rely on ultimately is my own intuition.


If Obama is such a great president, then why have the White Hats proven that he's stolen billions of dollars of OUR money? And trying to hide it....

My son's girlfriend was unaware of some of Obama's activities, so I enlightened her. She was shocked to say the least....
How many others like her are unaware of what's going on with this president or the govt? Ain't getting the facts from Lame Stream, that's for sure....

All Presidents steal $$.

[onawah]

I will just say AGAIN
The question remains, given how far government in the world has been taken over now by TPTW, how much could one well meaning individual in the office of POTUS now actually do?
Does anyone in that office now really have ANY power at all?
Do we know what kinds of threats he may have received to himself and his family if he doesn't go along with TPTW's agenda?

IMHO, comparing the power that past Presidents may have had to now is irrelevant, at this juncture.
Where we are now is not like any other time.

I'm quite sure ANYONE who is POTUS now would be forced by those who hold the real power to do their bidding, or else.

But I do think it's possible that his karmic contract for this lifetime was to become President right at the time when the transfer of power would begin to go back to the people, so that, though he would be powerless during his first term, he might have enough power to make a difference in his second term, should he be reelected.
Though I doubt anyone will be able to really do that much good very soon.
We still have a long road ahead of us, with most of Washington still in the pocket of TPTW, regardless of which party they belong to.

No list of abhorrent policies which the Obama Administration has implememented addresses the real question.

I think that until people who are under the illusion that the POTUS still has real power, realize that he doesn't, playing that blame game is just irrelevant.
Saying that he had a choice as to who to surround himself with is meaningless if you aren't also looking at the gun pointed at his back, at his daughters' back, at his wife's back.

He may have known that this would happen when he first made the karmic agreement to be POTUS, but went ahead anyway because he knew that someone else in that role, such as John McCain, would have been a much more compliant tool.
McCain was already mind controlled before he even ran, IMHO. And it would have been almost as depressing for me, for one, to see McCain's vacant face plastered all over the MSM as it was when it was Bush's face we had to confront everyday.
Public morale is an important factor.
If McCain had been elected, I think a LOT of people would have lost all hope.
At least with Obama, we had a reprieve of sorts, and a lot of Light was generated when he was elected, though disillusionment followed.
And that just showed how naive people really are about politics in general and how much of the freedoms we once had, we have lost.
You can't blame one man for all that.

But again, only time will tell.

[jackovesk]

Newt Ginrich offers to debate Obama’s (Teleprompter)..!

Newt Gingrich challenges Barack Obama to a genuine one-on-one debate, and says he can even bring a friend:


“I already said that if he wants to use a teleprompter, then it would be fine with me. It has to be fair. If you [were] to defend ObamaCare, wouldn’t you want a teleprompter?” Gingrich asked.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQ6I4bdzGQ&feature=player_embedded

Then this...

Globalist Candidate Gingrich Gets Influential Establishment Endorsement

November 27, 2011

The establishment has left the flubber Rick Perry in the dust and may do likewise to Mitt Romney as the 2012 election season gears up. It looks like they are putting their money behind the former Speaker of the House and seasoned globalist, Newt Gingrich.

On Sunday, Gingrich received the endorsement of the influential editorial board of the New Hampshire Union Leader. “We are in critical need of the innovative, forward-looking strategy and positive leadership that Gingrich has shown he is capable of providing,” said an editorial penned by publisher Joseph W. McQuaid (http://www.unionleader.com/article/20111127/NEWS/711279999).

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/gingrich-2012-1926179118_v2.grid-6x2.jpg


“A lot of candidates say they’re going to improve Washington. Newt Gingrich has actually done that, and in this race he offers the best shot of doing it again,” he added.

The Union Leader endorsement is considered influential because New Hampshire is an early primary state. “The failure to win the board’s endorsement may be a setback for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney’s campaign which has struggled to win support from Tea party-affiliated voters and the right-wing of the GOP base,” reports The Hill.

Despite the endorsement for Gingrich, however, Romney still leads in the first primary state. According to a Suffolk University/7News poll conducted last week, Romney has the support of 41 percent of likely GOP voters. Gingrich came in second with 14 percent and tied with Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

A Bloomberg poll held on November 10 placed Ron Paul second at 17 percent, while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich came in at 11 percent. All the other candidates were below 10 percent.

The Union Leader endorsement is designed to push Gingrich above Paul in the polls. The establishment is vexed by Ron Paul’s stubborn popularity despite its best efforts to ignore him and minimize his participation during its highly stage-managed debates.

CFR globalist Newt Gingrich is the ideal candidate for the ruling elite. He has served the elite faithfully and helped it trade away our national sovereignty. He worked with Bill Clinton to foist NAFTA on the American people and move millions of jobs into the China slave labor system of totalitarian globalism.

During his stint in the House, Gingrich also supported GATT and the WTO, two big cornerstones of the one-world government agenda. “Gingrich’s Benedict Arnold act helped to hand over the power to regulate foreign commerce, a power reserved in the Constitution to Congress alone, to an internationally controlled body, making America’s economic interests entirely at the mercy of the WTO,” explains Rebecca Terrell, writing for Campaign for Liberty.

Now that he is masquerading as a “conservative” in order to fool Americans next November, Gingrich has backed away from the climate change mantra he so unenthusiastically supported before he was groomed once again for GOP nominee.

In the video below, Newt shills for climate legislation with Democrat Nancy Pelosi. Last week he told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that the ad “is probably the dumbest thing I’ve done in recent years.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154&feature=player_embedded

In 2007, however, Mr. Speaker was talking out the other side. At that time, Gingrich praised Democrat John Kerry’s book about environmentalism and said global warming is real. He offered what amounted to an unexpected apology for his party’s inaction on curtailing greenhouse gas emissions, according to the Boston Globe.

Gingrich, of course, is fully behind the plan to implement carbon taxes under the ruse of climate change, but will turn in an Oscar performance in order to trick the voting public. If elected, he will turn on a dime, pull an Obama, and go back on his disavowal of the climate change agenda.

Gingrich likes to parade as a constitutionalist. In fact, he is a sworn enemy of the Constitution. His Contract With America was one of the most unconstitutional pieces of legislation to ever come down the congressional pike. It proposed amending the Constitution with a “balanced budget amendment,” a completely unnecessary proposal if Congress would only act on constitutional programs.

Gingrich’s Contract also allocated a ton of money to unconstitutional “federal crime-fighting measures, despite the Constitution’s prohibition on federal involvement in police matters outside of piracy and treason. Countries that do not have such strict constitutional safeguards on federal police end up with Gestapos, KGBs, and Departments of Homeland Security,” notes Terrell.

Newt has also expressed his contempt for the concept of a Fourth Amendment when he told Fox’s Bill O’Reilly that Americans should be subjected to drug testing. He cited the advanced police state of Singapore as an example of the sort of drug policy the United States should have.

Finally, in order to understand just how dedicated Gingrich is to destroying the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, consider that he described himself as a “conservative futurist” who enthusiastically recommended as Speaker of the House his colleagues read Alvin Toffler’s 1980 book The Third Wave.

In the book, Toffler wrote a letter to America’s “founding parents,” in which he said: “The system of government you fashioned, including the very principles on which you based it, is increasingly obsolete, and hence increasingly, if inadvertently, oppressive and dangerous to our welfare. It must be radically changed and a new system of government invented – a democracy for the 21st century.” According to Toffler, our constitutional system is one that “served us so well for so long, and that now must, in its turn, die and be replaced.”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/globalist-candidate-gingrich-gets-influential-establishment-endorsement.html

PS - This bloke is a (Wolf in Sheeps Clothing), if you thought Obama was bad this bloke will 'Definately' finish the job off..!

[spiritguide]

I will just say AGAIN
The question remains, given how far government in the world has been taken over now by TPTW, how much could one well meaning individual in the office of POTUS now actually do?
Does anyone in that office now really have ANY power at all?
Do we know what kinds of threats he may have received to himself and his family if he doesn't go along with TPTW's agenda?

IMHO, comparing the power that past Presidents may have had to now is irrelevant, at this juncture.
Where we are now is not like any other time.

I'm quite sure ANYONE who is POTUS now would be forced by those who hold the real power to do their bidding, or else.

But I do think it's possible that his karmic contract for this lifetime was to become President right at the time when the transfer of power would begin to go back to the people, so that, though he would be powerless during his first term, he might have enough power to make a difference in his second term, should he be reelected.
Though I doubt anyone will be able to really do that much good very soon.
We still have a long road ahead of us, with most of Washington still in the pocket of TPTW, regardless of which party they belong to.

No list of abhorrent policies which the Obama Administration has implememented addresses the real question.

I think that until people who are under the illusion that the POTUS still has real power, realize that he doesn't, playing that blame game is just irrelevant.
Saying that he had a choice as to who to surround himself with is meaningless if you aren't also looking at the gun pointed at his back, at his daughters' back, at his wife's back.

He may have known that this would happen when he first made the karmic agreement to be POTUS, but went ahead anyway because he knew that someone else in that role, such as John McCain, would have been a much more compliant tool.
McCain was already mind controlled before he even ran, IMHO. And it would have been almost as depressing for me, for one, to see McCain's vacant face plastered all over the MSM as it was when it was Bush's face we had to confront everyday.
Public morale is an important factor.
If McCain had been elected, I think a LOT of people would have lost all hope.
At least with Obama, we had a reprieve of sorts, and a lot of Light was generated when he was elected, though disillusionment followed.
And that just showed how naive people really are about politics in general and how much of the freedoms we once had, we have lost.
You can't blame one man for all that.

But again, only time will tell.

If Obama was faced by any threats at all he could have relinquished as did Perot during his presidential bid. He did not and if this is an excuse for his behavior and actions then he is really misguided. Right now his only actions are more war, less liberty and complacent law enforcement along with gross constitutional bill of rights violations. Both congress and the judicial system are complacent with this same issue and it is not going to be changed by channeling but by only what we the people do and what we aspire to be. The only thing that time will tell you is that the view from the couch waiting for it to tell you the outcome will be wasted. The now is the time for action and the future is the result of those actions,
Obama has shown his ability in the now and it is not impressive at all. The illusion of time is no excuse for complacency in regards to future generations. Eliminate corruption every where now!

[shamanseeker]

Hi Onawah,

I really have a great respect for you and your spirituality. I don't agree with you about Obama though. I think if he were truly positive and was forced to do the things he does, he wouldn't look so very pleased with himself when he is with the other leaders and when visiting countries where it is believed that his administration is planning new aggressions.

I was wondering if you've read Ktlight's thread: Congress to Vote Next Week on EXPLICITLY Creating a Police State

Because if this law is passed the way will be paved for the arrest of people considered to be enemies of the state in the whole world including the U.S. itself and martial law in the U.S. would follow - and as we know whatever happens there follows suit in Britain and Europe. I do hope that the positive thinking of people will be able to stop it but ...

Do you still think that the information in this channelling is correct knowing that Obama is planning this. Surely, if he were genuine, he would give the people some hints, like J. F. Kennedy did.

My very best wishes

[jackovesk]

George Soros Crafted Obama’s Stimulus,Then Invested in Companies that Benefitted from It

Billionaire George Soros gave advice and direction on how President Obama should allocate so-called “stimulus” money in a series of regular private meetings and consultations with White House senior advisers even as Soros was making investments in areas affected by the stimulus program.

http://biggovernment.com/files/2011/11/george-soros.jpg

It’s just one more revelation featured in the blockbuster new book that continues to rock Washington, Throw Them All Out (http://www.amazon.com/Throw-Them-All-Peter-Schweizer/dp/0547573146), authored by Breitbart News editor Peter Schweizer.

Mr. Soros met with Mr. Obama’s top economist on February 25, 2009 and twice more with senior officials in the Old Executive Office Building on March 24th and 25th as the stimulus plan was being crafted. Later, Mr. Soros also participated in discussions on financial reform.

Then, in the first quarter of 2009, Mr. Soros went on a stock buying spree in companies that ultimately benefited from the federal stimulus.




Soros doubled his holdings in medical manufacturer Hologic, a company that benefited from stimulus spending on medical systems
Soros tripled his holdings in fiber channel and software maker Emulus, a company that wound up scoring a large amount of federal funds going to infrastructure spending
Soros bought 210,000 shares in Cisco Systems, which came up big in the stimulus lottery
Soros also bought Extreme Networks, which, months later, said it was expanding broadband to rural America “as part of President Obama’s broadband strategy”
Soros bought 1.5 million shares in American Electric Power, a company Mr. Obama gave $1 billion to in June 2009
Soros bought shares in utility company Ameren, which bagged a $540 million Department of Energy loan
Soros bought 250,000 shares of Public Service Enterprise Group, 500,000 shares of NRG Energy, and almost a million shares of Entergy—all companies that came up winners in the Department of Energy taxpayer giveaway that produced the Solyndra debacle
Soros bought into BioFuel Energy, a company that benefitted when the EPA announced a regulation on ethanol
Soros bought Powerspan in April 2009. Just weeks later, the clean-energy company landed $100 million from the Department of Energy
In the second quarter of 2009, Soros bought education technology giant Blackboard, which became a big recipient of education stimulus money
Soros also bought Burlington Northern Santa Fe and CSX, both beneficiaries of Mr. Obama’s plans for revitalizing the railroads
Soros bought Cognizant Technology Solutions, which scored stimulus funds in education and health care technology
Soros also bought 300,000 shares of Constellation Energy Group and 4.6 million shares of Covanta, both of which landed taxpayers’ money through the stimulus, the former of which bagged $200 million

In Throw Them All Out, Schweizer catalogs several more of Mr. Soros’s trades and says that, while “it is not necessarily the case that Soros had specific insider tips about any government grants,” nevertheless, Soros’s “investment decisions aligned remarkably closely with government grants and transfers.”

Whether Mr. Soros’s involvement in private White House meetings influenced which companies received stimulus money is unclear. What is certain, writes Schweizer, is that “crony capitalism favors the politically active, and the manipulative. It does not favor one party over the other. It does not care about policy. It just knows how to make money off any policy—your tax dollars, leveraged to the rich.”

http://biggovernment.com/whall/2011/11/21/george-soros-helped-craft-stimulus-then-invested-in-companies-benefiting/

PS - There will be 'NO' Lifeboats left on the (NWO Titanic) when it eventually goes down in a (Screaming Heap) Mr. Soros..!

You Sir, have used up ALL your 'Get Out of Jail Free' cards..!

My bet is you will Cowardly 'Top Yourself' when you realise there is nowhere left to hide..!

[Fred Steeves]

I will just say AGAIN
The question remains, given how far government in the world has been taken over now by TPTW, how much could one well meaning individual in the office of POTUS now actually do?
Does anyone in that office now really have ANY power at all?
Do we know what kinds of threats he may have received to himself and his family if he doesn't go along with TPTW's agenda?


Two things.

1): If our glorious leader were a white hat in disguise, he would likely have had a nervous breakdown by now over the number of lives that are flippantly destroyed around this planet each day as per his orders, whether they originate from him or not.

2) If I were in that position, and supposedly trapped by threats, I would resign myself to a bullet in the head, wait for the the annual State of the Union speech, and out of nowhere spill the beans to the entire world on live t.v. Tell me THAT wouldn't open up a can of good old fashioned whoop ass on the cowards who prefer to control from the shadows.

No more excuses for these criminals, their time is done.

Also, any "channel" who endorses these criminals is a complete and utter fraud, flat out.

As Alex Collier likes to say: "No more bulls**t".

[onawah]

I can see from these last comments that it is being assumed that I agree completely with the channeled info.
I do not. I just thought it was worth discussing the possibilities.
I don't make any claims to knowing who Obama really is.
Like anyone else, I can only speculate.
I believe what Don Juan Matus said (if such a person really existed) in Carlos Castenada's books about "knowing".
In this complex, multi-dimensional illusion we live in, I think the biggest mistake can be to think that we know anything conclusively and without doubt.
Intuition is my default tool, and I follow that, but I do not claim to know anything.
Convictions can be a good thing, in some ways, but in other ways, they can be extremely misleading.

[eric charles]

This prick just makes me want to puke , actually all politicians make me feel that way !

[jackovesk]

Obama Laughs At His Own Climate Change BS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=q20cnn8vOfg

PS - Nothing more needs to be (SAID)..!

[Andrew]

Climate change is real, its whats causing it that's debatable.

There laughing at the overwhelming evidence which is overwhelming lol

[bodhii71]

How can anyone say he is a light worker? I really fail to see it. Maybe a lie worker, lol.

[jackovesk]

How can anyone say he is a light worker? I really fail to see it. Maybe a lie worker, lol.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1363231384806&id=0774cc7c1664a9cb36f624eb04325440&url=http%3a%2f%2frlv.zcache.com%2fantichrist_obama_god_sticker-p217666325495113545z85xz_400.jpghttp://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1310257452727&id=486f24a29a39d9907e0a0fea6dd2f3b1&url=http%3a%2f%2freturnoftheconservatives.files.wordpress.com%2f2011%2f10%2fbarack-obama-antichrist.png%3fw%3d600http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1434169246646&id=2bf7a1800ba985ca94e498c6c5efc0e6&url=http%3a%2f%2frlv.zcache.com%2fobama_the_antichrist_poster-r377ffab50c0046aa80edf2a4b754b593_ztd_400.jpg

[NewFounderHome]

At least there having fun! Ho yes there having fun over us following them!

[Lord Sidious]

How can anyone say he is a light worker? I really fail to see it. Maybe a lie worker, lol.

For some reason people are desperate for him to be a lightworker.
I don't think he is.

[jackovesk]

How can anyone say he is a light worker? I really fail to see it. Maybe a lie worker, lol.

For some reason people are desperate for him to be a lightworker.
I don't think he is.

"Desperation" being the 'Key Word'..!

[DouglasDanger]

How can anyone say he is a light worker? I really fail to see it. Maybe a lie worker, lol.

For some reason people are desperate for him to be a lightworker.
I don't think he is.

He's A light worker for sure, In the sence that light means, light snack before dinner, light lifting or barely does anything "light work".

Most people are right he is the anti-christ,
Christ kicked the bankers out..
Barry lets them stay even sends some funds thier way..
So in the frame of thinking that anti-christ means "embracing the banks or bankers" Barry fits the anti-christ description.. IMHO...

[Calz]

How can anyone say he is a light worker? I really fail to see it. Maybe a lie worker, lol.

For some reason people are desperate for him to be a lightworker.
I don't think he is.


People are desperate for *anyone anywhere* with (the illusion of) power to be a lightworker ... for the people ... a hero.


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[modwiz]

Most people are just desperate. They are clueless and unmotivated to do anything that can't be remote controlled.

I'm on a roll. Whiners are getting to me.

[DouglasDanger]

Most people are just desperate. They are clueless and unmotivated to do anything that can't be remote controlled.

I'm on a roll. Whiners are getting to me.

My first read of your responce I had to do a double take.. I read whiners as winners, and was picturing Charlie Sheen with his staff of winning joining you for a sit down in your tower.... :)

[Andrew]

I agree he is no saint, cant stand the slimey git. The title of this thread and video is just stupid though and I actually agree with them this once.

People assume to much.

[Andrew]

Most people are just desperate. They are clueless and unmotivated to do anything that can't be remote controlled.

I'm on a roll. Whiners are getting to me.

Lay down your crystal remote and stop whining then

[Seikou-Kishi]

Most people are just desperate. They are clueless and unmotivated to do anything that can't be remote controlled.

I'm on a roll. Whiners are getting to me.

Lay down your crystal remote and stop whining then

Come on now, play nicely :P

[Wind]

I don't want to hate anyone, not even Obama. I actually even feel bad for him. I believe that he is just a puppet and he's doing what he is told to. Politicians only need to know how to have a big smirk all the time.

[1derer]

The most interesting thing is that Global Warming was replaced by Climate Change without anyone really questioning it.... when will we learn?

I have always maintained that we are heading for Global Freezing and recently scientists have announced that the UK at least, will head towards a mini ice-age, with conditions being up to -21 degrees in some places, which is more like Siberian weather.

Manipulating content and skewing results and stats is disgraceful and this is where the problem lies.

I also wonder as to whether or not this freeze might be due to the compromised gulf stream after the dumping of oil then corexit into the Gulf Coast.

Where are the light workers and goody aliens when you really need them?........

[Andrew]

The most interesting thing is that Global Warming was replaced by Climate Change without anyone really questioning it.... when will we learn?

I have always maintained that we are heading for Global Freezing and recently scientists have announced that the UK at least, will head towards a mini ice-age, with conditions being up to -21 degrees in some places, which is more like Siberian weather.

Manipulating content and skewing results and stats is disgraceful and this is where the problem lies.

I also wonder as to whether or not this freeze might be due to the compromised gulf stream after the dumping of oil then corexit into the Gulf Coast.

Where are the light workers and goody aliens when you really need them?........

I think England is warming though and the fact there saying its getting colder and harsher winters is complete rubbish and seems to be convincing the public though. We've not had a proper winter for about 15 years, yes it snows then freezes and everyone thinks its dire usually due to the news. England has had some wild weather but rather than cooling I'm observing warming.

[1derer]

Well, let's hope it doesn't freeze as bad as they predict, but I would still get thermal long johns a wooly bobble hat and mittens!

[Lord Sidious]

I don't want to hate anyone, not even Obama. I actually even feel bad for him. I believe that he is just a puppet and he's doing what he is told to. Politicians only need to know how to have a big smirk all the time.

If you have ever taken notice of anything I have said, take notice of this, do not hate.
You will only harm yourself, you won't do anything to anyone else.
Trust me, I tasted the poison and I don't like it.

[Maia Gabrial]

All Presidents steal $$.

They should not be benefitting themselves while in public office. I believe that's illegal according to the Constitution. (Correct me if I'm wrong)....

[Maia Gabrial]

From all that I've learned about Obama and his administration, I can't be convinced that "suddenly" Obama will turn around and save the world he helped ruin. His actions are not those of a good guy. For instance, receiving his undeserved Nobel PEACE Prize is a big joke considering that our country has been fighting illegal wars ever since he's taken office. A good man doesn't steal his country's money or criticize his people to other nations. When have you ever heard any other president doing such things? He hasn't fulfilled ONE campaign promise except that there would be a fundamental change in this country. He didn't say it would be a good change, did he? People only heard what they wanted to hear; not what he meant. And not all changes are good....

There are so many lies coming from him that it's not amusing anymore. If history decides he's worth mentioning, then it may be in infamy. I believe that he's not done screwing over the country yet. Don't believe me then look at the many unconstitutional laws being passed. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not feeling as safe as I once did....

Dear onawah, I hope this doesn't put you on the defensive because it's just my opinion of the man and what he's done so far. My faith and trust in his leadership is nonexistent at this point. Even if he somehow did something miraculous, I'd still suspect that it was all part of an agenda.... Too late for him to go back and change his tarnished image....

[onawah]

No offense taken, Maia. Expressing your opinion is what the forum is all about, as long as we do it respectfully.
As I said before, I don't claim to know who he really is or what his motives really are.
But I do believe that anyone who is POTUS now is merely a puppet, and has no real say in policy making.
So it seems strange to me that a man as intelligent as he is is in that position, and that leads to many questions, which for me, are as yet unresolved.
It would not have surprised me at all if McCain had been elected, or Hilary, but I was surprised when Obama was elected.
In any case, I suspect that if either McCain or Hilary had been elected, things on the whole would still be pretty much the same, maybe worse.
I feel like I know where those two are coming from.
I'm not so sure about Obama
And I could be wrong--maybe he's just clearly one of them, only in a more polished package.
But again, only time will tell.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

While everything we see Obama do seems beyond the pale and illegal like using drones to kill innocents in Pakistan. We do not know what is going on behind the scenes nor who is being held hostage in his family to make sure he complies with those who used to be in power. I stopped watching the news a long time ago, and do not even bother with his speeches or any of the other war mongering political BS. All of this goes away soon. We are all anxious to see it go away but no one more than Obama himself. The man has aged. We know about black ops. Blackmail. Torture. So how would it feel to have your whole family held hostage? We simply do not know what is going on behind the scenes. We haven't got a clue.

Yet, I am sure if the Galactic Federation of Light says he's an enlightened Sirian commander full of light, I believe them. You see, they know ALL. No kidding. Every thought we have, they can "hear it." Every activity, they can "see it." These Celestials beings are unlike anyone you've ever known or could hope to know.

Their presence is so amazing and awe inspiring you are filled with so much love, you never want to leave their presence! For me it was just like returning to our Celestial Heaven where we came from prior to this 3D experience on Earth. It's difficult if not impossible to convey the feelings that overcome you while in their presence.

These exalted beings have no agenda other than love. Complete and absolute love. That they cherish us is so obvious, you can never forgot the experience. I only worked with them over the course of a single night but the most difficult part was waking up in 3D and not being able to be with them and feel their presence. Talk about a rude awakening.

It is ironic to me ~ that so many dismiss them without any "knowing" or "remembrance" of who they are talking about. We pattern our judgments using "human senses" in 3D as your sketch pad and place those who shine so brightly in the same frequency and light as some trolls or something. It's outrageous that you speak so unkindly without knowing what you're talking about. This comes from being in density and duality but it's still frightful to behold in action.

This is a big mistake and misjudgment but understandable since you don't remember at present. Soon you will. Thank the dear Lord! We each have remembrance deep down inside our own hearts and we can ask to remember. We are not given more information or remembrance than we can handle though, so your own ideas about them are mainly the barriers that keep you from remembering. We have grown so cynical, so untrusting, so biased, and jaded, we certainly prove moment-by-moment, that we have completely forgotten who we are and where we came from. Seeing them, being with them, this will jolt everyone's memory fast ~ on the instant ~ and it will be a great homecoming when they come forth.

Incidentally, Ashtar Command is a part of the Galactic Federation of Light in charge of Security over Earth. Please be respectful of those who you don't have the slightest idea about.... If you did, you would not go where Angels fear to tread. It just takes my breath away how some of you refer to these Creator Beings of ourselves. We, too, may become like them again and this would be the greatest achievement. We were like them prior to Earth got locked in duality overlong, but we are going to graduation now.

One thing, during the short time I was with them on this small task for Mother Earth, I was able to freely ask any questions. And I had a whole bunch of them. I am not a channel. Those usually don't get to go all over the place with questions about everything but I did and each of my questions was lovingly, and patiently answered. It was the greatest experience you could ever imagine.

We are not talking about Zeta Reticulars with the big eyes and fetal like bodies, who ran around abducting people, those are gone now and they are from a whole different part of the universe. We were made in the image of these Celestial Beings.

Since then, I have been subjected to ridicule but it's like water off a ducks back. It doesn't matter if anyone believes a word I say, I was there and cannot deny it. All that matters is that I was asked to do something and I was able to complete it successfully. How great is that?!! Well, I guess you had to be there.

Afterward, I thought to myself, "Well, I can die happily now." One thing, is that we never really die, we are infinite. That is just what the powers that used to be told us. Death is greatly misunderstood. I asked if there was anything else I could do and was told, "Teach my children how to love again." Wow. I have been putting forth a lot of effort in some of the silliest ways since then. Even exchanging my Facebook, "I like" button for one that says, "I love." We are up to a million hits of love already. Silly but in small ways ~ each of us ~ can do something like this.

Loving anything around us; a tree, a flower, a child, a family member, kittens ;) We are able to anchor love into Mother Earth when we do the slightest loving thing. Have the slightest loving thought. And you know, it's enough. About Obama. Let's not make any decisions in concrete no matter how things appear. These Celestial Beings are as "Heavenly" as they come, they are truly the Heavenly Hosts spoken of in the Bible and they know what they are doing even if we don't. Have a little faith, please. We will be seeing them again soon. xoxoxox

[onawah]

I did not realize you are a Contactee, Darla.
Thanks for sharing that with us.
I appreciate that it takes courage to disclose that kind of experience.
And that one's world view can change once you've had one.
I know mine did.
Namaste

[jackovesk]

Lyndon LaRouche: Obama is "Clinically Insane"..!

Nov 30, 2011


Alex also talks with political candidate and economist Lyndon LaRouche about his emergency statement released on Thanksgiving evening. It calls for stopping the (British Empire) before its successfully launches 'World War Three' and the 'Destruction' of civilization.

If there is 'One Interview' you should listen to in its entirety, its 'This One'..!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztsoob1k3JA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT2vMIDMHTg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DN3h0765Po


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeLt6_he3U

PS - I urge you to 'Listen' to 'Every Word' of this interview before commenting..!

LaRouche 'Lays it All Out' on the table, like you've never heard before and he is 'Deadly Serious'..!

[spiritguide]

All I can say is write your elected representative and ask them to evict Obama. This does not come from a political point of view but one of sanity. Anyone that contemplates thermonuclear war is insane period.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Thanks for the post Jack. Its good the see the alternative media cooperating with eachother.

The intelligence and solutions of LaRouchepac are genuine, but question of "what can I do?" to remove Obama always remains unanswered.

[araucaria]

Something doesn't add up for me here - this 'dictator' is playing golf all day?

I hear the names Hitler and Napoleon mentioned.

Imagine if Napoleon had been a keen tennis player and Hitler been centre forward for Bayern Munich, they might have got up to a little less mischief, no?

[Unified Serenity]

Article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069471/President-Obama-jet-Hawaii-SEVENTEEN-DAY-Christmas-holiday.html)

"While most Americans are lucky to get a few weeks of holiday every year, it seems the country’s leader gets a little more freedom in the matter.

President Barack Obama has announced his Christmas vacation to Hawaii – for a staggering 17-day trip.

Obama, who visited the island just two weeks ago for an economic summit, will head to Honolulu on Saturday December 17 until Monday January 2."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069471/President-Obama-jet-Hawaii-SEVENTEEN-DAY-Christmas-holiday.html#ixzz1fUUHZlck


I don't know whether to be pissed at all this vacation time or glad he won't be doing anything for 17 days. Hell, it doesn't matter because he is only a puppet and will have plenty to do when he gets back and reads what they put on his teleprompter and keeps the agenda laid out for him.

[buckminster fuller]

might not have been his choice.... so much is gonna happen in the coming weeks. no president is even better than a puppet one..

[Unified Serenity]

True buckminster, so I am getting my teflon jumpsuit on, bs boots laced up as I feel between the political and financial games being played out it's going to get very interesting quickly. I trust nothing I see happening right now, and a look for what's really going on. Of course finding it is a lot easier said than done.

[astrid]

Maybe they need to switch clones

[BMJ]

, but question of "what can I do?" to remove Obama always remains unanswered.

Do what you can advertise and support infowars by buy an Infowars T-Shirt wear it and when people ask explain to them what the website is about. Easy and not as cheesy as wearing an ABBA t-shirt.

[Black Panther]

Obama - The Anti-Israel President ?

xO8qZP_iU9I

[Eric J (Viking)]

Really really interesting times!

viking

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

I see it as propaganda. They are like children & its well over due for the parents to return & to foot them all up the arse.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Propaganda written by the Israel's to drum up hatred and bias towards the Arab States and sympathy towards their cause.

U.S. gave Isreal $400 million in foreign aid in 2010 ~ I'd hardly call that a snub by Obama and his administration. As for Obama "he speaks with forked tongue". Think of what he told us before he got in office. He actually broke 2 of his campaign promises before he even got in office.


List of U.S. Foreign Aid recipients:
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-foreign-aid.htm

[Cjay]

Don't forget there is an election coming next year

[ktlight]

FYI:
"The U.S. ambassador to Belgium, Howard Gutman, recently told a conference hosted by the European Jewish Union that Israel is to blame for growing anti-Semitism harbored by people of Muslim faith.

“A distinction should be made between traditional anti-Semitism, which should be condemned and Muslim hatred for Jews, which stems from the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians,” Gutman reportedly said, according to the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth. “He also argued that an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty will significantly diminish Muslim anti-Semitism.”

According to the account in the Israeli paper, “The legal experts at the event were visibly stunned by Gutman’s words, and the next speaker offered a scathing rebuttal to the envoy’s remarks.”

Gutman was a major fundraiser for President Obama’s 2008 election campaign. He bundled $500,000 for Obama, according to OpenSecrets.org, personally giving at least $2,300 to the campaign.

In 2009, Obama nominated Gutman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, to be ambassador to Belgium.

UPDATE: Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich responds on Twitter: "Pres Obama should fire his ambassador to Brussels for being so wrong about anti-semitism.""

source
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-fundraiser-and-ambassador-blames-israel-anti-semitism_610946.html

[Black Panther]

Propaganda written by the Israel's to drum up hatred and bias towards the Arab States and sympathy towards their cause.

U.S. gave Isreal $400 million in foreign aid in 2010 ~ I'd hardly call that a snub by Obama and his administration. As for Obama "he speaks with forked tongue". Think of what he told us before he got in office. He actually broke 2 of his campaign promises before he even got in office.


List of U.S. Foreign Aid recipients:
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-foreign-aid.htm

I didn't know what to think of it after watching the video, that's why the question mark.
Of course Obama says whatever fits the agenda.There is no doubt the US and Israel
are allies. Both countries benefit.

[aranuk]

Is there any news about Obama vetoing the s1867 bill? Are any Americans interested in this or not? I was just wondering.

Stan

[onawah]

I am definitely interested, though there hasn't been any news as yet that I am aware of.
I don't watch or listen to mainstream news, though, so I don't always hear stories as soon as they break.

[alienHunter]

I just checked...nothing yet...though I did read an opinion on the Council on Foreign Relations...never mind...I'm sure you'll hear about the result here.

[aranuk]

I don't suppose there is anything on mainstream TV about it, is there? If it was happening in UK there wouldn't be either. They sneak these kind of bills into laws without any publicity. Usually a few distractions or ten every day until it passes as law and THEN it is talked about in legal terminology which the average person has great difficulty understanding.

Stan

[aranuk]

I think the people on Earth are ****ed really. Our ONLY hope I feel will be ET intervention. We the people have let things go too far without any real opposition. I am so sorry to say these things but it's how I feel.

Stan

[risveglio]

It passed the senate 93-7 and the house version H.R. 1540 passed 322-96 so I don't think it matters if he vetoes it since there is more than a 2/3 majority to overturn it. I don't hold much hope for an ET intervention so I hope groups like Oath Keepers have gotten to enough of our military and police force but that is probably wishful thinking.

[modwiz]

Is there any news about Obama vetoing the s1867 bill? Are any Americans interested in this or not? I was just wondering.

Stan

Obama has said he would veto the bill. Senators sometimes have a change of mind after a veto. This is not a foregone conclusion yet. I will not surrender my will against theirs. Will you?

[ktlight]

FYI:
"Obama Wants to Veto the Indefinite Detention Bill Because It Would Hold the U.S. to the Geneva Convention

I – like everyone else – am horrified by the Senate’s passage of legislation that would allow for indefinite detention of Americans.

And at first, I – like many others – assumed that Obama’s threat to veto the bill might be a good thing. But the truth is much more disturbing.

As former Wall Street Street editor and columnist Paul Craig Roberts correctly notes:

The Obama regime’s objection to military detention is not rooted in concern for the constitutional rights of American citizens. The regime objects to military detention because the implication of military detention is that detainees are prisoners of war. As Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin put it: Should somebody determined “to be a member of an enemy force who has come to this nation or is in this nation to attack us as a member of a foreign enemy, should that person be treated according to the laws of war? The answer is yes.”

Detainees treated according to the laws of war have the protections of the Geneva Conventions. They cannot be tortured. The Obama regime opposes military detention, because detainees would have some rights. These rights would interfere with the regime’s ability to send detainees to CIA torture prisons overseas. [Yes, Obama is still apparently allowing "extraordinary renditions" to torture people abroad.] This is what the Obama regime means when it says that the requirement of military detention denies the regime “flexibility.”

The Bush/Obama regimes have evaded the Geneva Conventions by declaring that detainees are not POWs, but “enemy combatants,” “terrorists,” or some other designation that removes all accountability from the US government for their treatment.

By requiring military detention of the captured, Congress is undoing all the manoeuvering that two regimes have accomplished in removing POW status from detainees.

A careful reading of the Obama regime’s objections to military detention supports this conclusion. (See http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/112/saps1867s_20111117.pdf)

The November 17 letter to the Senate from the Executive Office of the President says that the Obama regime does not want the authority it has under the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), Public Law 107-40, to be codified. Codification is risky, the regime says. “After a decade of settled jurisprudence on detention authority, Congress must be careful not to open a whole new series of legal questions that will distract from our efforts to protect the country.”

In other words, the regime is saying that under AUMF the executive branch has total discretion as to who it detains and how it treats detainees. Moreover, as the executive branch has total discretion, no one can find out what the executive branch is doing, who detainees are, or what is being done to them. Codification brings accountability, and the executive branch does not want accountability.

Those who see hope in Obama’s threatened veto have jumped to conclusions if they think the veto is based on constitutional scruples.

Police State Started Years Ago

Even if Obama’s threatened veto was for more noble purposes, the fact is that it would not change anything, because the U.S. government claimed the power to indefinitely detain and assassinate American citizens years ago.

For example, law school professor and National Lawyers Guild president Marjorie Cohn pointed out in 2006:

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 governing the treatment of detainees is the culmination of relentless fear-mongering by the Bush administration since the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Because the bill was adopted with lightning speed, barely anyone noticed that it empowers Bush to declare not just aliens, but also U.S. citizens, “unlawful enemy combatants.”

Anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on Bush’s list of “terrorist” organizations, or who speaks out against the government’s policies could be declared an “unlawful enemy combatant” and imprisoned indefinitely. That includes American citizens.

Glenn Greenwald and Fire Dog Lake’s Emptywheel have also documented that the White House has believed for many years that it possessed the power to indefinitely detain Americans. See this http://www.salon.com/2011/12/01/congress_endorsing_military_detention_a_new_aumf/singleton/.

source to read more
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/12/the-real-reason-for-obamas-threat-to-veto-the-indefinite-detention-bill-hint-its-not-to-protect-liberty.html

[Calz]

Thanks for a very important thread ... some supplementary material ...






A veto by Obama may not be a good thing after a closer look, from what I'm reading it appears that the Administration are not against the the detaining of "terrorists" with un-due process per se, but rather which agency/group makes the decision. A fellow Avalonian, mountain_jim (with thanks!), in another thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36226-Ben-Fulford-Pentagon-Agencies-Militia-on-Brink-of-Violence-Against-Obama-Co./page2) quoted a blog from Glenn Greenwald, which I will paste a snippet of here (emphasis added by me!)


Just to underscore what is — and is not — motivating the Obama administration’s objections to this bill, Sen. Levin has disclosed, as Dave Kopel documents, that “it was the Obama administration which told Congress to remove the language in the original bill which exempted American citizens and lawful residents from the detention power,” on the ground it would unduly restrict the decision-making of Executive Branch officials. In other words, Obama officials wanted the flexibility to militarily detain even U.S. citizens if they were so inclined, and are angry that this bill purports to limit their actions.

That, manifestly, is what is driving their objections here: not a defense of due process, but a demand that Congress not interfere with their war.

Another writer @ Infowars - Dr Paul Roberts, appears to be saying the same thing in his article (http://www.infowars.com/misreading-the-fight-over-military-detention-obama-regime-has-no-constitutional-scruples/):


However, on further reflection I conclude that the Obama regime’s objection to military detention is not rooted in concern for the constitutional rights of American citizens.The regime objects to military detention because the implication of military detention is that detainees are prisoners of war.
...
Detainees treated according to the laws of war have the protections of the Geneva Conventions. They cannot be tortured. The Obama regime opposes military detention, because detainees would have some rights. These rights would interfere with the regime’s ability to send detainees to CIA torture prisons overseas.


Thanks for posting this.

Very important to know.

Infighting for control over the useless eaters ... how heart warming :tsk:

[jackovesk]

Obama (Doesn't Know) His Own Birth Date..!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=2wF_n-gn-Yo&NR=1

PS - Its all just too hard for poor (Barry) to keep the (Lie) going..!

[percival tyro]

I noticed On his OBAMA logo, that the sun was setting inside the "O". Hmmmm.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Lol this is hilarious! I like to think anybody behind such schemes couldn't possibly be so haphazard unless they intended to be.

I was going to download this and spread it around... until the bit about the time warp...


I noticed On his OBAMA logo, that the sun was setting inside the "O". Hmmmm.

That's just an indication of the place from which the sun shines ;-)

[Eric J (Viking)]

I wonder whats going on behind the scenes here ... ? interesting that he's slating Fox news and Trump and co...!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

viking

[CeltMan]

Well, Obama has just gone up in my estimation! well played sir, and a sense of humour to boot!

[Ilie Pandia]

This was already posted here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19855-Obama-ROASTS-Donald-Trump

[Corncrake]

Thanks Viking that was good - don't know who wrote the script but it was very funny!

[ExomatrixTV]

xuFu-XyC1iw
Explain why you requested Citizens included in NDAA 1031 imprisonment without trial, as confirmed on C-SPAN

TO THE ADMINISTRATION: Do NOT stray by discussing 1032 or 1031(e) in your response. Explain to us, "Why did you request citizens included in NDAA 1031 imprisonment without trial, confirmed by Chairman Levin's C-SPAN quote below?"


We deserve to know why Obama's administration REQUESTED that NDAA 1031 imprisonment without trial apply to citizens, confirmed by Levin on CSPAN. Here are Chairman Levin's words:


"[T]he language which precluded the application of Section 1031 to American Citizens was in the bill that we originally approved in the Armed Services Committee, and the Administration asked us to remove the language, which says that US Citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section" Why?!


~sign the petition for an Official Response: http://whitehouse.gov/D0B (http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwhitehouse.gov%2FD0B&session_token=uA7ooHbF0TnqQH1I-rE5hgDC9PF8MTMyMzczNjM2MUAxMzIzNjQ5OTYx)

[GlassSteagallfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-a2dNaDj-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-a2dNaDj-M

Behind the Targetting of Hillary: Obama, Gorbachev and Susan Rice

December 11, 2011 • 9:36AM

Qualified sources in Washington and Moscow have provided new details about just how President Obama, in collusion with some of the worst enemies of Russia, set up Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and set back U.S.-Russian relations and ongoing war avoidance efforts. The incident provides one more unavoidable piece of evidence that President Obama is criminally insane and an agent of the British Empire faction promoting world war, and must be removed from office immediately.

According to the sources, in the weeks leading into the recent Russian Duma elections, former Soviet President and British agent Mikhail Gorbachev was in phone contact with President Obama, UN Ambassador Susan Rice, and National Democracy Institute (NDI) Chair Madeleine Albright. Within hours of the Duma election results being announced, Gorbachev denounced the results and demanded new elections, triggering an international feeding frenzy against Putin and United Russia. Through USAID and private European and American foundations, millions of dollars had been poured into Russia to promote the opposition (USAID program director Sean Carroll had come to the agency from the Club of Madrid, an organization of former heads of state in which Gorbachev plays a leading role).

Next, President Obama ordered Secretary of State Clinton to issue a harsh condemnation of the Russian elections—before she had any opportunity to speak with her counterpart, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Naturally, the Russians responded with a criticism of Clinton for jumping the gun and issuing statements before any of the election monitors had even filed their reports.

President Obama then reportedly contacted Secretary Clinton a second time, chastising her for being too soft, and demanding an even more outrageous statement from her.

The clear intent was to break a level of trust and candor that had been carefully developed by Secretary Clinton with Lavrov and other Russian leaders over the past three years. Fortunately, the LaRouche statement "Was It Hillary's Error?" had been released and widely circulated internationally, thus undermining the British scheme to break one key U.S.-Russian war avoidance channel.

Obama's personal ties to Gorbachev go back at least to March 20, 2009, when President Obama "walked in" on a scheduled meeting between Gorbachev and Vice President Joe Biden at the White House. On July 7, 2009, during his visit to Moscow, President Obama again met with Gorbachev face-to-face and sought his input into a major speech he was scheduled to give at a Moscow university.

In May 2010, Gorbachev launched yet-another front group, the New Policy Forum, based in Luxembourg, with both George Shultz and Lord Robert Skidelsky (biographer of John Maynard Keynes and Sir Oswald Mosley) on the board.

Link:http://www.larouchepac.com/node/20728

[spiritguide]

The plot thickens....

[risveglio]

This is from Justin Amash and is what you should make clear not to accept from your congressman.

PLEASE READ: Members of Congress who want to grant the President power to indefinitely detain American citizens, without charge or trial, likely will make two false claims about the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

(1) They will say that you have nothing to worry about because Sec. 1031 asserts that it does not "affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens."

RESPONSE: Pres. Obama and many Members of Congress believe the President ALREADY has the authority the bill grants him. Legally, of course, he does not. This language was inserted to keep proponents and opponents of the bill appeased, while permitting the President to assert that the improper power he has claimed all along is now in statute.

(2) They will say that American citizens are specifically exempted under the following language in Sec. 1032: "The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States."

RESPONSE: Don't be fooled. All this says is that the President is not REQUIRED to indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or trial. It still PERMITS him to do so.

[toad]

This is a long article so I will just post the first lil bit and the source to the rest;


Obama fearing a revolution against him by the states, has moved swiftly by nationalizing nearly all National Guard Forces in multiple states; Georgia, Alabama, Kansas, Minnesota, Tennessee, Virginia, Louisiana, South Carolina – to name a few. The Governors of the Great States of Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia still have under their Command-and-Control the State Defense Forces to go against U.S. Federal forces should the need arise. Also important to note: There are NO U.S. laws prohibiting National Guard troops from also joining their State’s Defense Forces. This dilemma occurred during the Civil War with many “citizen soldiers” choosing to serve their states instead of the Federal Government.

Obama is angered by the several State Governors who have reestablished “State Defense Forces.” These forces are described as: “State Defense Forces (also known as State Guards, State Military Reserves, State Militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are not regulated by the National Guard Bureau nor are they part of the Army National Guard of the United States. State Defense Forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state. State Defense Forces are distinct from their state’s National Guard in that they cannot become federal entities.”

Mr. Obama is fearful of these State Defense Forces, in that he does not have control of said forces, and with the U.S. Military stretched to near breaking from multiple deployments and theatre actions in Iraq and Afghanistan, these State military forces would be under the direct command and authority of the Governors in which states have said forces. In essence, the Governors would have “de facto control” of the United States.

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2010/09/16/14-united-state-governors-reestablish-state-militia-defense-forces-to-be-ready-against-federal-forces/

[spiritguide]

The article is from Sept. 2010, any recent chatter about this?

[Unified Serenity]

Hmmm, interesting. Thanksf or the date update spiritguide. Maybe laying groundwork for the future, just like advertising for internment camp employees.

[DNA]

This would get real interesting if the states were to take control of the underground nukes in their districts.

[DreamsInDigital]

Why don't they just impeach the Foolish Mortal President and be done with it? There are enough votes in place for this to happen already.

[alienHunter]

Interesting, a few years ago a crackpot Russian seer, predicted the breakdown of the United States into 5 independent factions. If there is any truth to this stuff which I doubt to my bones, The crackpot could have been correct! In fact, I think he predicated his vision on one of Billy Meier's contact expositions...I don't remember the exact number.

[sygh]

Interesting, a few years ago a crackpot Russian seer, predicted the breakdown of the United States into 5 independent factions. If there is any truth to this stuff which I doubt to my bones, The crackpot could have been correct! In fact, I think he predicated his vision on one of Billy Meier's contact expositions...I don't remember the exact number.

I recall seeing a map of the U.S. broken up into trade zones. Sort of like how Europe uses 230V @ 50 Hz to run their electrical gagets, and the U.S. uses 220 @ 60Hz. I know this was based on fact because at that point, and for a short time, one couldn't buy a DVD in say, California, and expect it to run on a DVD player in Florida. My mother-in-law RV'ed extensively and I heard her complain about this very thing. I don't know how long that lasted before it was seen as a complete and total flop.

[DreamsInDigital]

Interesting, a few years ago a crackpot Russian seer, predicted the breakdown of the United States into 5 independent factions. If there is any truth to this stuff which I doubt to my bones, The crackpot could have been correct! In fact, I think he predicated his vision on one of Billy Meier's contact expositions...I don't remember the exact number.
*shrugs* It's possible, I've seen many others that have said similar things. About the united states turning into something completely different.

[jackovesk]

In a direct match up Paul is strong with diverse range of voter groups

December 21, 2011

Yet another new poll has highlighted the fact that Ron Paul is the strongest GOP candidate when it comes to a hypothetical general election match up with Barack Obama.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ron-paul-by-gage-skidmore-flickr-615x345.jpg

The CNN / ORC poll shows Paul bettering Obama 47 to 46 percent among “the most reliable” group of voters, those who are 65 years and older. Paul attracts more independents than Obama by 48 to 47 percent. The Congressman also betters Obama 51 to 46 percent among white voters and betters the incumbent president 52 to 44 percent among voters residing in rural areas.

In a direct head to head with Obama, Paul does better than all of his GOP rivals in a wide and diverse range of population categories, including males; persons ages 18 to 34; persons under 50 years of age; persons earning less than $50k per year; persons who have attended college; crossover Democrats; self-identified liberals; self-described moderates; residents of the Northeast and Midwest geographic regions; and those residing in urban areas.

The Congressman also betters all the other GOP competitors against Obama where non-white voters are concerned, attracting the support of one in four non-white adults.

“This poll further debunks the establishment-created myth about Ron Paul’s electability and shows an expanding base of support,” said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton.

“Americans of all stripes are tired of the status quo Washington insider games, and are looking for someone who represents real change. Congressman Paul is that candidate.”

The latest poll dovetails with a previous NBC News/Marist poll (http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/IApolls/IA111127/Republican%20Primary%202012/Complete%20December%204,%202011%20Iowa%20NBC%20News-Marist%20Poll%20Release.pdf) out of Iowa that found Obama beating all GOP competitors except for Ron Paul.

The results of these polls prove that Paul is the only GOP candidate that appeals to voters across the political spectrum.

In a last push before the Iowa caucus in just under 2 weeks, the Paul campaign releases two new tv ads this week aimed at bolstering his support.

The first is an updated version of the original Hollywood blockbuster style campaign spot entitled “The One”. The new version of the ad focuses on Ron Paul’s fiscal plan, juxtaposing it with excessive Washington establishment failures.

“With the U.S. economy in shambles, Americans are demanding leaders that are knowledgeable about how the economy works and how to ensure that Washington creates the proper climate for sustainable growth and lasting prosperity.” Jesse Benton notes.

“This updated ad shows Ron Paul as the sole candidate with an economic plan to restore America, and at the same time singles him out for his unimpeachable integrity,”

Watch the ad:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XESux7oFMDY&feature=player_embedded

Focusing on Paul’s life-long opposition to abortion, the second ad, a positive piece entitled “Staying on the Right Path”, is a one minute spot featuring testimonials from Paul’s former patients.

The ad also once again highlights that Paul, an obstetrician, has delivered more than 4,000 babies.

Watch the ad:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_qBSow4FrE&feature=player_embedded

Watch Alex’s special report on the news that Ron Paul is now leading in Iowa and how the establishment is attempting to break his campaign:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_ij6QwrA_8&feature=player_embedded

http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-poll-ron-paul-betters-other-gop-candidates-vs-obama.html