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Bassplayer1
17th February 2021, 20:49
What are people's thoughts on what may or may not happen next?
The Election has been and gone. There's no real evidence of mass arrests. The emergency broadcasts never happened. Where are the rescued children? What ever happened with the water-marked ballots, the Servers? Where's the Kraken? In fact, I hear very little from Sidney, Rudy and crew these days.
I though it was all supposed to be Biblical!
And here we are. The narrative seems to have morphed into 'what a wonderful time to be alive' 'Enjoy the show' 'Get your popcorn' 'We've already One' 'this is all pantomime to wake people up' etc etc from the very people who gave dates, times of things about to happen that didn't!
It seems like so much is left unanswered. I feel I have to really rummage around the Net to get any new scraps of info as it all seems a bit thin on the ground.
What I am seeing is people losing their jobs, forced to wear masks, forced vaccines and forced to stay in their homes.
Free speech is disappearing and many voices have been closed down. From where I'm sitting it looks like the 'bad guys' have done well!!
Is Biden operating from a 'film set' in California (or wherever it is)? Is he a clone? Will the vaccines kill us? Is there a reset on its way? Is there really a depopulation agenda?
Has the alternative community been infiltrated and played leaving many feeling despondent, confused and not knowing what to believe anymore?
Is Trump coming back? Are the Nesara/Gesara computers really going to be 'switched on' any day now - do they even exist?
I've also noticed a certain tone that some of the known voices in the alternative community are adopting and to be honest I'm not liking it. Some (not all) are starting to sound patronizing and judgemental. Sometimes I've felt we're being lectured at.
Some are being quite negative about people wearing masks or having the vaccine. One person, when asked in an interview about people being stuck in a position of not wanting the vaccine, but won't be allowed to visit loved ones in other countries if they don't, started ranting about 'morons' being complicit in the agenda if they get vaccinated and now its time to let people go etc. I keep seeing this vibe lately and its not nice and its not helpful!!!
Sorry for my rant. I tend to be a positive and open minded person. I also haven't mentioned names of people as I don't feel comfortable slagging people off and naming names ... I actually hope that it turns out I'm wrong and good things start to unfold and I'll be left apologizing!
Satori
17th February 2021, 21:52
What are people's thoughts on what may or may not happen next?
The Election has been and gone. There's no real evidence of mass arrests. The emergency broadcasts never happened. Where are the rescued children? What ever happened with the water-marked ballots, the Servers? Where's the Kraken? In fact, I hear very little from Sidney, Rudy and crew these days.
I though it was all supposed to be Biblical!
And here we are. The narrative seems to have morphed into 'what a wonderful time to be alive' 'Enjoy the show' 'Get your popcorn' 'We've already One' 'this is all pantomime to wake people up' etc etc from the very people who gave dates, times of things about to happen that didn't!
It seems like so much is left unanswered. I feel I have to really rummage around the Net to get any new scraps of info as it all seems a bit thin on the ground.
What I am seeing is people losing their jobs, forced to wear masks, forced vaccines and forced to stay in their homes.
Free speech is disappearing and many voices have been closed down. From where I'm sitting it looks like the 'bad guys' have done well!!
Is Biden operating from a 'film set' in California (or wherever it is)? Is he a clone? Will the vaccines kill us? Is there a reset on its way? Is there really a depopulation agenda?
Has the alternative community been infiltrated and played leaving many feeling despondent, confused and not knowing what to believe anymore?
Is Trump coming back? Are the Nesara/Gesara computers really going to be 'switched on' any day now - do they even exist?
I've also noticed a certain tone that some of the known voices in the alternative community are adopting and to be honest I'm not liking it. Some (not all) are starting to sound patronizing and judgemental. Sometimes I've felt we're being lectured at.
Some are being quite negative about people wearing masks or having the vaccine. One person, when asked in an interview about people being stuck in a position of not wanting the vaccine, but won't be allowed to visit loved ones in other countries if they don't, started ranting about 'morons' being complicit in the agenda if they get vaccinated and now its time to let people go etc. I keep seeing this vibe lately and its not nice and its not helpful!!!
Sorry for my rant. I tend to be a positive and open minded person. I also haven't mentioned names of people as I don't feel comfortable slagging people off and naming names ... I actually hope that it turns out I'm wrong and good things start to unfold and I'll be left apologizing!
These are all good observations and questions. Many questions; few real and reliable answers.
haroldsails
17th February 2021, 22:45
As to how things are evolving, this story from todays R/T (assuming it is true) is ominous. https://www.rt.com/news/515863-facebook-bans-australian-users-news/ I think it is fairly certain that much of the alt news content was pure mis-information/distraction to defuse and deflate those disgruntled Trump voters, and it worked. Everybody looks foolish. And Rush has left the building.
thepainterdoug
17th February 2021, 22:54
bassplayer 1
its one of those posts that reminds me of everything im asking, and that i have already put in my posts. WTF happened?
My only thought it that people are going to have live this biden/china reality and see this and make a decision to rise up against what is and about to happen.
maybe its us? the people of this world, and not one man as in D J Trump that should be saving us. Maybe its us?
Bassplayer1
17th February 2021, 23:54
thepainterdoug
I'm inclined to agree with you. It's down to us to take back what is ours and to create the world we want. Unfortunately, the programming and mind control has been very effective and successful - to the point where those who see the bigger picture are switched off and banished (punished). There is no discussion.
The last few months have been bizarre - and I'll admit that I've been hopeful. But I'm seeing all the drama of the last few months tailing off and the key people drifting away. Just the 'Hopium' guys tellings us to sit back and be patient 'the battle is already won.'
Interestingly, many of these folk avoid directly answering questions about Covid and the vaccines, 'lockdown' etc. They are U.S focussed.
I feel very grateful to line-up with many aspects of yoga/Hindu philosophy. When in doubt, I return to this wisdom to remind me of the true nature of Reality.
How do we know that anything we are told is true?
Kerry Cassidy seems to be the only one out there at the moment who is challenging these folk who are making big claims with nothing to show. I recently watched her interview with Juan O Savin and several times she pinned him down directly asking outright the questions that we're asking, and perhaps its just me, but I found his lengthy replies empty of real answers and unhelpful.
Also, many of the storylines that were on repeat for a few weeks have now been dropped - for example, the military running the U.S and Washington being bankrupt and dissolved at Companies House. I'm not hearing that being talked about much anymore. A lot of the talk is becoming increasingly vague and telling people to sit back and enjoy rather than get up and create the future they want for themselves.
TargeT
18th February 2021, 00:16
I put in for a half day off tomorrow, I'm going to watch the Congressional hearing on GameStop and take a shot every time some old politician is confused or wrong (I think I'll probably get pretty drunk.....).
Tomorrow is one of the 1st catalysts that may help force a situation that will lead to correcting the financial system.
At least this one seems to have some real legs behind it; and potentially could have an actual outcome.
Link to live stream (tomorrow 12EST)
https://financialservices.house.gov/live/
u/Deep****ingValue aka RoaringKitty AKA THE LEGEND Keith Gill along with the CEO of Citidel (the money behind robin hood), the CEO of Robinhood, and the CEO of Reddit will be probed by the congressional finance committee.
“GameStop’s stock price may have gotten a bit ahead of itself last month, but I’m as bullish as I’ve ever been on a potential turnaround. In short, I like the stock,” Gill said in the comments. “I believed – and I continue to believe – that GameStop has the potential to reinvent itself as the ultimate destination for gamers within the thriving $200 billion gaming industry.”
-Keith (THE GOD) Gill (this is the last paragraph of his congressional testimony that was filed Monday). https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/17/roaring-kitty-keith-gill-defends-gamestop-posts-says-he-is-as-as-bullish-as-ever-on-the-stock.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=Main&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1613592944
This has been a great patience test.... some of us are winning ;)
https://i.redd.it/n6nx1f9qq1i61.jpg
The full testimony is here: https://docs.house.gov/meetings/BA/BA00/20210218/111207/HHRG-117-BA00-Wstate-GillK-20210218.pdf
This fine gentleman breaks it down into understandable phrases:
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thepainterdoug
I'm inclined to agree with you. It's down to us to take back what is ours and to create the world we want. Unfortunately, the programming and mind control has been very effective and successful
Some times the fight you want isn't the one that will work the best.....
for example... why isn't anyone putting any effort to the only thing that MAY cause real change? FINALLY we have a vector to support real change with little to no effort.
I mean... I've been here 10 years and I finally feel like I'm doing something more than helping endless animals and get ignored by the humans who are the ones that need to change.
At this point,, I'll take ANY avenue to expose corruption and collusion.
Satori
18th February 2021, 00:22
I’m of the opinion that ultimately we have a responsibility (response-able) to be our own judges of credibility of anyone.
107, Juan O Savin, Juan Q Savin (or whoever he is and his handlers and sidekicks are) is not ringing true with me. Astin Martin and all. (007 drove an Astin Martin too on occasion in a few movies) A main factor for me that causes me to be skeptical and not on board with him is his anonymity. He has stated his reasons for that. Ok. I get it. But it’s a factor nevertheless.
Also, he’s very intent about convincing us to trust the plan, pick a lane etc... it’s not just enthusiasm that I’m sensing. He’s not someone who just had an epiphany and wants to share. He’s studied up. He’s smooth and polished. This video bears that out.
There’s more, by lastly for now, if something sounds too good to be true, it’s probably false. At least not what it seems.
The jury in my mind is still out on him, but I’m leaning towards not finding him credible. I could be wrong.
DaveToo
18th February 2021, 00:32
I don't know what will happen next but I do know their playbook. It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain cell.
Depending on their game plan, they have the ability to spin this 'pandemic' indefinitely really.
They have two powerful tools at their disposal:
1. Testing
2. Variants/strains
If they want more cases, they simply instruct the testers to increase the cycle threshold on their PCR tests.
More cases = more fear plus all the rest of the tyrannical measures.
If they want less cases, they simply instruct the testers to decrease the cycle threshold on their PCR tests.
Seasonal jerking around of the case numbers. Second wave? How about the 25th wave?
If they want more variants/strains of the virus, they simply announce that a new variant/strain has been
discovered today in city/country 'x'. Of course the new variant/strain will require a new vaccine (which
will be created in record-breaking speed without the standard testing/trials that would normally occur.)
TargeT
18th February 2021, 00:41
I don't know what will happen next but I do know their playbook. It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain cell.
Depending on their game plan, they have the ability to spin this 'pandemic' indefinitely really.
Loosing faith in the government due to obvious fascist collusion with the finance industry which will spread (the lack of faith) to all forms as people who've never question the system start to due to a "David and goliath" situation (one that is very attractive to all humans).
This has been happening since about last NOV and is coming to one of it's more major inflection points tomorrow with the House Finance Comity inquiry.... Maybe I'm too biased, better than lamenting on all the tools that will be used to destroy us? I'm with the few million who put some skin in the game and see a possible route to actual wide spread change (Money does that...).
If the system of oppression is oppressing you, DON'T PLAY THAT GAME! Hack reality, Find a glaring mistake and exploit it (... haha subtle GameStop situation plug?).
I dunno... I'm getting older and am abit obsessive over efficient energy use (I take a lot more naps now)... Choose for your self where your energy will go but definitely try to future run the potential (not just possible) outcomes as a verification that you're choice is the most efficient.
Now, if this whole thing turns out to be like the Trump election (that I was convinced he had won.. so good to keep that in mind when I'm convinced... haha) then maybe I'll just buy a van and go live by a river.... I'm still willing to go all in, but I need to see the ball moved forward somewhat!
Are the Nesara/Gesara computers really going to be 'switched on' any day now - do they even exist?
How plausible was this idea... like ever?
enfoldedblue
18th February 2021, 00:47
I just wrote about this on a friend's thread. To me after literally years of ... we have all the evidence ... reality is going to blown wide open it's all going to come out. We have inditements, laptops, watermarks, kraken... the Trump cards are going to come down...BOOM....whatever ...the dates come and go and new ones surface and followers just keep on following, when in reality it should be abundantly clear by now that the channels of information are lying.
But now from what I see those still hanging on are now waiting for a new March date.
It does seem to have a cult like quality, with some followers acting like victims in abusive relationships...coming up with increasingly convoluted excuses for why things are not going as promised and remaining caught in a loop that promises huge change..but never delivers.
We need to ask what the purpose of this deception was.
I have been following the mass arrests story since around 2010 and it is always played the same way.
Some great force (galactic federation, White hats, Trump... whatever) is going to save us.... any second now. (this keeps as victims)
Watch this space, enjoy the show. (Keep your focus here...where attention goes energy flows)
The other side are bad, they are the problem. maintain dualistic perspective...divide people
Personally I find that with myself and clients I work with we are all experiencing incredible powerful shifts in our inner world. To me this is where our true power lies. If more of us pulled our attention away from the world stage and worked on healing and growing within, I believe we would really start to see these changes manifest in our outer reality. From what I have glimpsed the worlds, magic, and wisdom we contain within on an individual and collective level is truly astounding. I agree with Painterdoug... it is up to us to create the change..it is an inside job.
DaveToo
18th February 2021, 01:28
... Personally I find that with myself and clients I work with we are all experiencing incredible powerful shifts in our inner world. To me this is where our true power lies. If more of us pulled our attention away from the world stage and worked on healing and growing within, I believe we would really start to see these changes manifest in our outer reality. From what I have glimpsed the worlds, magic, and wisdom we contain within on an individual and collective level is truly astounding. I agree with Painterdoug... it is up to us to create the change..it is an inside job.
I'll just relate an anecdotal story from today.
I live close to a 'big box store' that I frequent from time to time.
I hadn't been there for a number of weeks and during that time
they had made some new 'changes' to their 'pandemic protocols'.
They used to simply have 'greeters' at the doors making sure you
were wearing a face mask before being allowed to enter the store.
A simple "I have a medical condition" was all I ever needed since March 2020
to enter their store.
Today for the first time, the greeter didn't acquiesce to my usual line.
She simply pointed to signs on the door which I was in no mood to read.
And she said I wouldn't be able to get beyond the guards inside.
I walked inside the store with my cart and there no more than 20 feet in front
of me were two 'bouncer'-like guys dressed in black (of course) wearing plastic
protective shields over their faces, sporting menacing looks at me.
I ignored them and walked past them.
They didn't say a word to me.
Sérénité
18th February 2021, 02:10
It kind of feels like someone is shuffling timelines like a deck of cards at the moment.
Half of me wants to hide in a dark forest off grid and the other half wants to sit front row eating popcorn!
pyrangello
18th February 2021, 02:15
Covid is going away, March 1st is the target date, problem with that is there not done injecting the vaccines, oh the screwed up timelines, dems want economy rolling, fear is inbred everywhere with the masks.at least for those obedient. Now that we are leaving energy independent again get ready for Biden gas prices, I'm thinking 5.00 a gallon by end of the year, then watch everyone complain how much everything costs. No wars for the last 4 years , get ready for a new Biden war. And what about the lowest interest rates in history on cars, houses, boats, watch them sail off in the horizon, I remember when I graduated high school in 1980. Interest rates on houses were 17 % . Nobody was selling nothing. Biden has reversed everything that Obama had us on track of that trump stopped. Trump was giving all the power back to the states and us the American people. Gone baby gone now. Many are talking about the next election , hey I have new news, if they don't change these voting machines , were all just wishful thinking of an honest system that will never be. I REFUSE to participate if it does not get corrected. 40 million guns were sold in December in the USA. That's the total amount sold in 1999 for the year. What does that tell you. I think America has achieved it's greatness like Rome, as like Rome then came the slide downward of greed , corruption, as like in dc now America, land of the free, home of the corrupt where nobody goes to jail. What happens next? Many many people continue to wake up as gas prices rise and then the fingers start pointing . It's all really sad to see the total destruction of this country happen right before are eyes. What happens next? We have a very wealthy country here at this moment, if all these changes start to impact that ,its hard to take away what has already been given . And the younger generation doesn't have time for brainwashing b.s.
SilentFeathers
18th February 2021, 03:05
I wouldn't quite yet breathe a sigh of relief and laugh it all off yet. I truly believe we are about soon to see a series of events that will be even more ridiculous than what we have been seeing over the last year or so. Some events may even be quite deadly....
It's been almost a year now and I haven't heard of anyone getting the common cold or the flu....seems covid is the only illness now.
By the summer millions more foreigners will have entered this country and will be placed in conservative states and selective other cities across the country with caravans of millions following the trail behind them. Crime rates and disease will explode in these areas and the media will ignore the problems.
If your popcorn bowl is empty, better pop some more; part two of the great stupidity show is about to commence.
Constance
18th February 2021, 04:49
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Andre
18th February 2021, 09:39
What's going to happen? I have no idea. I try to stay away from the collective insanity that has consumed much of the world. So far, so good. If I was to speculate, I would say the world is just going to get more and more crazy, draconian, fragmented and violent and a minority will retreat further inside to retain their sanity and put their reliance into their spiritual connections. Basically, a continuation of the polarization of consciousness that's been characterized by so many wisdom teachings as the shift of ages, the quickening, the fifth sun, ascension, the new earth and so on. Crazy times, that's for sure.
Merkaba360
18th February 2021, 10:08
I like to think about our growing army mathematically. ~1% die per year. So, I'd say that is maybe 0.5% increase per year of people who are not believing the lies, if not higher. The majority of elderly dying are programmed and the bleak future for the kids makes them not by into the lie. Lets count from 9/11/01, a big catalyst, then there was 2008 crash and 2020 fiascos. In 20 years that would increase the truth army by 10%. I'd say that adding in those who are awakening from studying and what not, it is at least twice as fast. That's 20% in 20 years. The big events like 2020, create a much bigger spike for that year and somewhat bigger for the next few years following. Corona virus and the elections had to have woken up 10s of millions of americans (politically awake, not spiritually) alone. Lets say that's 5%-10%. Add in those already awake pre 2000 and we have a serious army. It could very well be majority or close to it , say 40%. I mean, if that poll was right and 60-65% believe the election was a farse, then it seems we have a majority already.
This means that the elite must accelerate plans, which is basically what we are seeing now. Given the current new level of absurdity and the snowball effect of people becoming ready to shift over to the new majority (bandwagon, safety/support lol), I imagine 3-5% will be shifting sides per year over the next 5 years unless things get quiet.
So, I dont know what happens next, but I can't see it getting dragged out too much longer given this shift. Seems they will have to make their big moves in the next 1-5 years, maybe 10.
Moves that will start big fights/resistance.
What frustrates me, is there are so many of us, but we can't get much organization. It should be easy to get millions united to meditate every Sunday at a certain time on things like truth/transparency, harmony, disillusionment, etc. Religious people can do their prayers. IF it was just like 5 million in unison, it seems to me that this would really disrupt things and piss off some control freaks. lol
We should be able to sell it now more than ever. "Are you tired of the lies, disinfo and false hope?, time for we the people to join forces. United, our collective energy is stronger than any elected official. The leaders just ignore us, So we WILL unite our intention in meditation and prayer creating the strongest energy weapon of love/truth/freedom on the planet. We don't need to listen to people tell us what they believe the truth is, we will reveal the truths. Our WILL shall be done. "
I'd love to see what would happen if 10 million people meditated on helping those in D.C see thru their own illusions and deception going on around them. lol
dim
18th February 2021, 11:50
As long as there are bad vs good guys in your field of view, the bad ones will always win.
samildamach
18th February 2021, 12:15
I just wrote about this on a friend's thread. To me after literally years of ... we have all the evidence ... reality is going to blown wide open it's all going to come out. We have inditements, laptops, watermarks, kraken... the Trump cards are going to come down...BOOM....whatever ...the dates come and go and new ones surface and followers just keep on following, when in reality it should be abundantly clear by now that the channels of information are lying.
But now from what I see those still hanging on are now waiting for a new March date.
It does seem to have a cult like quality, with some followers acting like victims in abusive relationships...coming up with increasingly convoluted excuses for why things are not going as promised and remaining caught in a loop that promises huge change..but never delivers.
We need to ask what the purpose of this deception was.
I have been following the mass arrests story since around 2010 and it is always played the same way.
Some great force (galactic federation, White hats, Trump... whatever) is going to save us.... any second now. (this keeps as victims)
Watch this space, enjoy the show. (Keep your focus here...where attention goes energy flows)
The other side are bad, they are the problem. maintain dualistic perspective...divide people
Personally I find that with myself and clients I work with we are all experiencing incredible powerful shifts in our inner world. To me this is where our true power lies. If more of us pulled our attention away from the world stage and worked on healing and growing within, I believe we would really start to see these changes manifest in our outer reality. From what I have glimpsed the worlds, magic, and wisdom we contain within on an individual and collective level is truly astounding. I agree with Painterdoug... it is up to us to create the change..it is an inside job.
My own energy is not stable.its like a a tidal wave bursting around.at other times it circles in and out strong then stronger never weak.iam calm in thoughts but the energy certainly isnot.it feels like its getting ready and still building in strength to be used.i doubt iam the only one feeling this way?
Bubu
18th February 2021, 12:22
I like to think about our growing army mathematically. ~1% die per year. So, I'd say that is maybe 0.5% increase per year of people who are not believing the lies, if not higher. The majority of elderly dying are programmed and the bleak future for the kids makes them not by into the lie. Lets count from 9/11/01, a big catalyst, then there was 2008 crash and 2020 fiascos. In 20 years that would increase the truth army by 10%. I'd say that adding in those who are awakening from studying and what not, it is at least twice as fast. That's 20% in 20 years. The big events like 2020, create a much bigger spike for that year and somewhat bigger for the next few years following. Corona virus and the elections had to have woken up 10s of millions of americans (politically awake, not spiritually) alone. Lets say that's 5%-10%. Add in those already awake pre 2000 and we have a serious army. It could very well be majority or close to it , say 40%. I mean, if that poll was right and 60-65% believe the election was a farse, then it seems we have a majority already.
This means that the elite must accelerate plans, which is basically what we are seeing now. Given the current new level of absurdity and the snowball effect of people becoming ready to shift over to the new majority (bandwagon, safety/support lol), I imagine 3-5% will be shifting sides per year over the next 5 years unless things get quiet.
So, I dont know what happens next, but I can't see it getting dragged out too much longer given this shift. Seems they will have to make their big moves in the next 1-5 years, maybe 10.
Moves that will start big fights/resistance.
What frustrates me, is there are so many of us, but we can't get much organization. It should be easy to get millions united to meditate every Sunday at a certain time on things like truth/transparency, harmony, disillusionment, etc. Religious people can do their prayers. IF it was just like 5 million in unison, it seems to me that this would really disrupt things and piss off some control freaks. lol
We should be able to sell it now more than ever. "Are you tired of the lies, disinfo and false hope?, time for we the people to join forces. United, our collective energy is stronger than any elected official. The leaders just ignore us, So we WILL unite our intention in meditation and prayer creating the strongest energy weapon of love/truth/freedom on the planet. We don't need to listen to people tell us what they believe the truth is, we will reveal the truths. Our WILL shall be done. "
I'd love to see what would happen if 10 million people meditated on helping those in D.C see thru their own illusions and deception going on around them. lol
Good analogy, Yes people are waking up to the fact that we are being played. The bad thing is that they are not woken to what is the correct action must be taken. More absurdity equals more people waking and HATING. I expect the elite to make it even more absurd More awoke more hatred. Not in any moment in the past I've seen so many people waking and hating the government. If people are not killed by vaccine they will be killed by violence people vs people. At least that's what the elites are planning as I see it. But I dont see it happening. Alongside is a huge "inside job" going on in the army of truth.
Ernie Nemeth
18th February 2021, 12:58
Now, if this whole thing turns out to be like the Trump election (that I was convinced he had won.. so good to keep that in mind when I'm convinced... haha) then maybe I'll just buy a van and go live by a river.... I'm still willing to go all in, but I need to see the ball moved forward somewhat!
https://www.infowars.com/posts/how-to-live-your-best-life-in-america-in-2021-in-a-van-down-by-the-river/
seems Alex Jones agrees...
Matthew
18th February 2021, 13:01
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Free speech is disappearing and many voices have been closed down. From where I'm sitting it looks like the 'bad guys' have done well!!
...
Some are being quite negative about people wearing masks or having the vaccine. One person, when asked in an interview about people being stuck in a position of not wanting the vaccine, but won't be allowed to visit loved ones in other countries if they don't, started ranting about 'morons' being complicit in the agenda if they get vaccinated and now its time to let people go etc. I keep seeing this vibe lately and its not nice and its not helpful!!!
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I don't like to admit it but I agree that the 'bad guys' have done well. I have this suspicion that any sense of success we might have felt isn't any kind of inconvenience to the nefarious plans against us.
There's this from 2013, for example, that makes me look twice at things that have happened over the last decade:
From 2013
RB: I don’t have a crystal ball, but I have seen various reports referencing unprecedented “drills” to take place in later March and April. I’ll mention this because I know a lot of people on the inside at DHS have seen this. A document called “Operation Thunderdome.” It’s maybe 50 or 60 pages, I’m not certain. It describes an economic collapse in the U.S., followed by an attack on the government by “a made-up patriotic group.” It combines gun owners, Constitutionalists, and even Christians into an enemy group that pulls off an attack in Washington.
But don’t fall into the trap of trying to pick the time of these events. Their plans are flexible, but their objectives are carved in stone.
cross post ref: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57144-Doug-Hagmann-s-DHS-insider-update---IT-HAS-BEGUN.--&p=1410454&viewfull=1#post1410454
And, yes, I can see your point Bassplayer1, about the vibe that is not nice or helpful; it's like a tribal split where a PoV is used to bash the 'other side' over the head. It's hardly any kind of influencing model, more a polarisation model. Polarisation is easy, but changing somebody's mind is notoriously difficult!! Inherent human weakness, I struggle as much as the next person.
As for what happens next for me: I am at the phase of thinking seriously about relocating to an isolated area/property, setting up a 'online' warehouse shop, with a delivery operation to go with it, so I can have supplies and also a licence to get around; delivery drivers are essential workers. I'd characterise my thinking here as 'I've given up and am cutting my loses'. This would change if lockdown goes away. Plan for the worst, hope for the best. I'm not holding my breath assuming things will be OK, but I would love to be wrong
Brigantia
18th February 2021, 13:10
I like to think about our growing army mathematically. ~1% die per year. So, I'd say that is maybe 0.5% increase per year of people who are not believing the lies, if not higher. The majority of elderly dying are programmed and the bleak future for the kids makes them not by into the lie.
I'm not sure about that - many on this forum are older than me, and I'm in my 50s. I've also been to a lot of truth-seeking events and there have been many people older than me there. Don't forget the 1960s awakening too!
It's been my observation that a lot of young people are believing what they're told, though not all of them; my generation was taught how to think, but I would say from probably the 1990s onwards, they're taught what to think.
Of course there are young people who see through the lies, kudos to them, so it's not a simple ageist generational matter.
Bassplayer1
18th February 2021, 15:09
I think the biggest challenge moving forward isn't so much tackling the dark side but getting through to people who's mind is programmed differently. Getting through to conditioned loved ones!
Today is my Mum's birthday and she lives in the UK. I called her and as to be expected, the conversation worked its way around to the vaccine. My folks have had their's (I posted on another thread about my Uncle getting sick after his jab).
I don't want to be rude or unkind about my Mum, but she has a very sheltered life experience and world view via the BBC, Daily Mail, soap operas and radio phone-in shows. She struggles with technology and isn't confident using her iPad and the internet.
This morning, I got a mini lecture about how wonderful the vaccine is and how if we don't have the vaccine, we'll be in-and-out of 'lockdown' forever. She told me how 'spooky' the virus is, that 'no-one's seen a virus like this one. It's very clever and mutates. We have to get everyone vaccinated.'
'Boris says this' 'Boris says that' 'Matt Hancock has told us blah blah' ... I'm thinking these men should go to prison!!
She tells me how many people are dying in the local hospital - 15 actually, but I try to say these deaths could be due to a number of things and underlying health conditions and complications. I'm not saying Covid doesn't exist, I believe it does but my Mum is believing the idea that if you get Covid you'll die! She believes dodgy stats and not the likely reality of 97.5% survival rate.
Anyway, my whole family believe in following the rules, lockdown, vaccines, masks, sanitizing the groceries and leaving them in the garage for three days etc.
I tried explaining to my Mum the uncertainties of RNA biotech gene therapy 'vaccines' and I got the impression that she felt she knew all about the science of vaccines (Never ever doing any research of her own!)
I got a lecture about the 'marvels of modern science', and how 'technology has come a long way that they don't need to test vaccines for years any more. They can do them quickly now' She used Polio and smallpox as examples, but when I tried explaining how the Pfizer and Moderna jabs work, said said to me "I don't know where you're getting your information from."
So, what I also want to say is that when we are coming up against this fixed mind-set, things become even harder for us 'alternative' folk especially when some alternative media personalities are coming out with things like Biden and Hilary being clones, trials taking place on Mars etc . I'm open minded to these things being possible, but these kind of statements with NO evidence makes it harder for anything we say to be taken seriously - especially the dangers of these vaccines. We're crossing a line of becoming a discredited laughing stock and it's a challenge for our voices to be heard and taken seriously and as a result this may cost some people their lives.
Thank you for listening to me go on lol!
Ron Mauer Sr
18th February 2021, 16:42
Freedom, well being, joy, love, truth and harmony are going to happen. But not next. The schedule has not been posted.
Merkaba360
18th February 2021, 17:06
Yes, there is a problem within the illusion of this mental view of "good vs bad". But energetically, I think in terms of constructive vs destructive. Destructive people are a problem and I am going to see them as they are. IT doesn't mean I want to harm them, just change or disempower them.
Yes, the 60s generation had something. I think a decent amount of those people fell back asleep though. I see some of this happening to aging people around me now. So that may have to be factored in as a setback.
I'm not trying to pick on old people but im quite sure im statistically in the ballpark. There is a significant difference of politically awake people from those dying over age 70 and the new adults replacing them at say age 25. By that point they have some time to think and educate. And even the kids who arent quite awakening, as a whole, I believe their energy is overall better than the old folks for the new world to be born. Im estimating the numbers but lets say 70% of those dying are believing the scam and 40% of the kids coming up are , its a 30% positive change. I think it could be as high as 50% but 30% improvement i feel confident in and is still a positive shift/increase occurring.
I know personal experience isnt a massive data set, but personally out of all the people I meet in person, I almost never meet anyone retired who knows whats going on (yes, i know there are many out there and on here) and I meet loads of people under 40 who do. The internet seems a big factor in this and probably the disappointment the young have gotten for starting off during rough times. The older people with plenty of money have less reason to see whats going on.
Merkaba360
18th February 2021, 17:24
I like to think about our growing army mathematically. ~1% die per year. So, I'd say that is maybe 0.5% increase per year of people who are not believing the lies, if not higher. The majority of elderly dying are programmed and the bleak future for the kids makes them not by into the lie.
I'm not sure about that - many on this forum are older than me, and I'm in my 50s. I've also been to a lot of truth-seeking events and there have been many people older than me there. Don't forget the 1960s awakening too!
It's been my observation that a lot of young people are believing what they're told, though not all of them; my generation was taught how to think, but I would say from probably from the 1990s onwards, they're taught what to think.
Of course there are young people who see through the lies, kudos to them, so it's not a simple ageist generational matter.
I highly doubt that. School during that time was all about Friere's Banking model of education and teacher being ultimate authority depositing his facts into students heads. Its still like that over here in SE Asia. And almost NOBODY questions the covid narrative. lol So, its like im living in the 50-80s in many ways. There is quite a difference in ignorance, awareness between here and the west.
As much as they are trying to dumb down the kids now, even though it works on some.....I'm confident that overall its not working. It may be slow, but each generation is more conscious overall than the next at least in the west where there was no big set back.
meat suit
18th February 2021, 18:28
this shift is happening no matter what.
the old system is coming apart no matter what.
the bad guys most likely have a really comprehensive insurance plan for themselves like cities rigged with nukes, god knows what, maybe so serious that the good guys had to let it go for now.
at least so many more people know whats going on.
hang in there, hold strong, its all coming apart sooner or later.
Nasu
18th February 2021, 19:13
My feeling is that we are all on that blank page between chapters.
What happens next I feel will be more loss of liberty, more social distancing, more economic collapse. That seems to be the plan anyway, the agents of change need the chaos to happen first. I think that is where the opportunity is. Each of us can be a part of making sure that when the inevitable chaos happens, we are mentally and physically and spiritually ready.
Often to get out of something we first have to go through it. Luckily we only have to learn to manage this moment. With a calm spirit, this moment too can be lived through. No matter the outcome, if we do nothing and stress about it, or fight or flight, none of us are going to get out of this alive...x.... N
East Sun
18th February 2021, 20:30
We don't have a lot of time left to get on track. I read yesterday that this year is the last
one in a 26,000 thousand year period and the OWO have to have won by the end of that period.
I read so much that I don't recall where I read it but it fits in neatly with the globalists plans
to get rid of the Earth's humans by vaccines and all the other forms of manipulation they
have been doing for ever. Most people are not aware of their agenda and a lot don't want to believe it.
IMO we need to somehow stop this vaccine genocide or billions will die. Even Drs. and Nurses are compromised and have no choice or they will loose their license.
Some are talking out as whistle blowers but apparently not enough people hear them
as their interviews are often taken off the internet shortly after it is aired.
Some techniques they use are spraying nanoparticles down from jets. Those
particles get into our food and into our lungs, so that means into our blood stream
and past the blood stream barrier to our brain.
What can be done? No one seems to know. But there must be knowledgeable
people out there who can enlighten us so we can fight this.
Michi
18th February 2021, 22:35
We don't have a lot of time left to get on track. I read yesterday that this year is the last
one in a 26,000 thousand year period and the OWO have to have won by the end of that period.
What's OWO?
enfoldedblue
18th February 2021, 22:46
I just wrote about this on a friend's thread. To me after literally years of ... we have all the evidence ... reality is going to blown wide open it's all going to come out. We have inditements, laptops, watermarks, kraken... the Trump cards are going to come down...BOOM....whatever ...the dates come and go and new ones surface and followers just keep on following, when in reality it should be abundantly clear by now that the channels of information are lying.
But now from what I see those still hanging on are now waiting for a new March date.
It does seem to have a cult like quality, with some followers acting like victims in abusive relationships...coming up with increasingly convoluted excuses for why things are not going as promised and remaining caught in a loop that promises huge change..but never delivers.
We need to ask what the purpose of this deception was.
I have been following the mass arrests story since around 2010 and it is always played the same way.
Some great force (galactic federation, White hats, Trump... whatever) is going to save us.... any second now. (this keeps as victims)
Watch this space, enjoy the show. (Keep your focus here...where attention goes energy flows)
The other side are bad, they are the problem. maintain dualistic perspective...divide people
Personally I find that with myself and clients I work with we are all experiencing incredible powerful shifts in our inner world. To me this is where our true power lies. If more of us pulled our attention away from the world stage and worked on healing and growing within, I believe we would really start to see these changes manifest in our outer reality. From what I have glimpsed the worlds, magic, and wisdom we contain within on an individual and collective level is truly astounding. I agree with Painterdoug... it is up to us to create the change..it is an inside job.
My own energy is not stable.its like a a tidal wave bursting around.at other times it circles in and out strong then stronger never weak.iam calm in thoughts but the energy certainly isnot.it feels like its getting ready and still building in strength to be used.i doubt iam the only one feeling this way?
Oh the energies are so intense right now. Sometimes overwhelmingly so. Energetically the planet is being terraformed. And I believe, whether able to sense it directly or not, everyone is being affected.
One of the effects is hightened personal clarity and ability to shift density and heal much more quickly.
While we are all faced with incredible uncertainty in terms of how the physical will shift in response to the massive energetic overhaul that is occuring, I have no doubt that the changes will be positive... very positive. Of course this does not mean the path wont be bumpy, and even frightening at times, but it will ulrimately be pushing us to a reality that is based on love, truth, transparency and community.
The more we go with the flow and embrace personal growth the more gracefully we will move through this transition .
The old is slowly collapsing, imploding on itself. Trying to fix it is futile. Focusing on this dying old paradigm will ultimately induce fear and or anger and feel incredibly frustrating.
It will try desperately, in many guises to lure our attention, to draw us in with drama... hoping to maintain some degree of the collective energy flow resource.
Each of us has a role ro play in bringing the new into fruition. The energies are encouraging us to look inside, to find our own gold.... our own piece of the new world puzzle. There are so many incredible minds, and hearts in the collective... and as each of us stops handing our power away, waiting to be saved... and becomes able to express our own unique genius, we will begin to glimpse what we are truly capable of.
The real show begins within.
East Sun
18th February 2021, 23:59
We don't have a lot of time left to get on track. I read yesterday that this year is the last
one in a 26,000 thousand year period and the OWO have to have won by the end of that period.
What's OWO?
The "One World Order" that has been in existence for countless years with their agenda of world rule which I pray never happens.
Andre
19th February 2021, 00:09
.... Kerry Cassidy seems to be the only one out there at the moment who is challenging these folk who are making big claims with nothing to show. I recently watched her interview with Juan O Savin and several times she pinned him down directly asking outright the questions that we're asking, and perhaps its just me, but I found his lengthy replies empty of real answers and unhelpful...
Yes, I've seen Kerry do that a few times recently - try to pin down her guests who make big predictions along the lines of the "mass arrests syndrome" but she can never seem to get anywhere. It's not through lack of trying. We need more hard hitting interviewers to push these fantasy peddlers.
Andre
19th February 2021, 00:22
It's pretty obvious that this plandemic has been in the works for 5 - 10 years or longer. It's not something they could have implemented without lots of planning over an extended timeframe. I mean, wasn't it way back in 2009 that the W.H.O. changed the definition of "pandemic" to remove the limitation on large numbers of deaths in preparation for this? And hasn't Bill Gates been strategically giving out funds across the global medical industry for many years to position this roll-out and ensure the high level of compliance required to make this whole thing work? And look at the WEF website's covid action plan which would have taken years to compile. So, is this perhaps their "end game" and their biggest play ever and maybe they have no more cards to play after this round???? And if this doesn't work-out for them (a big "if" I suppose), then they are totally screwed? Their timeline is done?
Chakra
19th February 2021, 00:32
It kind of feels like someone is shuffling timelines like a deck of cards at the moment.
Half of me wants to hide in a dark forest off grid and the other half wants to sit front row eating popcorn!
I am so glad someone brought this up - I have experienced so much in the way of feeling 'ok so which one am I in today'? I feel at times totally way off or the day feels totally way off.
Have you had a feeling like your actually missing days? I would swear on the bible that the calendar I looked at last week said today was going to be the 16th - not the 18th. The 17th was the last day to apply for funding so though I didn't mark the calendar I knew I had to speak to my accountant on the 16th.... and knew that was thursday - sigh....
Or the sun rise is way off? I know sun rise changes every day but this is like at 7 am one day is way different that 7 am the next day, then back again... Once I had 2 total FULL moons (not the waxing / waning side of the full moon) about 4 days apart - now that can't happen. Freaked me out a tad lol.
I have had physical evidence in a picture I took in 2017 so I know it happens - but like you said its a like a shuffling a deck cards....
Chakra
19th February 2021, 01:04
We don't have a lot of time left to get on track. I read yesterday that this year is the last
one in a 26,000 thousand year period and the OWO have to have won by the end of that period.
Really curious as to how on earth they could determine that? One would have to know exactly where we were 26K years ago. You need a starting point to have an accurate ending point.
What can be done? No one seems to know. But there must be knowledgeable
people out there who can enlighten us so we can fight this.
Kinda depends on who your listening to - Catherine Austin Fitts gives a great breakdown on what is to be done.
Then there are lots of lawyers and doctors are fed up - creating groups and fighting it - here in Canada we have rebel news and a new political party PPC that is moving towards fighting the 'global reset'. People all over the world are protesting big time.
On a spiritual level - Tao of war or for more spiritual warrior types there is this. Much stronger than a regular prayer.
The Judgment Call "They Shall Not Pass" By Jesus Christ If this was done every day.... We'd be in a different world. https://youtu.be/e29NurY1xTM
I like this guy too - he's great.
https://t.me/oldmaninachair
East Sun
19th February 2021, 01:13
My feeling is that we are all on that blank page between chapters.
What happens next I feel will be more loss of liberty, more social distancing, more economic collapse. That seems to be the plan anyway, the agents of change need the chaos to happen first. I think that is where the opportunity is. Each of us can be a part of making sure that when the inevitable chaos happens, we are mentally and physically and spiritually ready.
Often to get out of something we first have to go through it. Luckily we only have to learn to manage this moment. With a calm spirit, this moment too can be lived through. No matter the outcome, if we do nothing and stress about it, or fight or flight, none of us are going to get out of this alive...x.... N
Thinking that we have to deal with chaos is a mistake IMO. They think that first they will cause chaos and then bring about order. Stop their chaos as instantly as we can
and then bring about OUR OWN ORDER is what we need to do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Bubu
19th February 2021, 15:53
"Then He told them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, famines, and pestilences in various places, along with fearful sights and great signs from heaven."
I'm not a bible believer. But looks to me as if their plans are written on it. To convince people that what is happening, what will happen is the will of god. So we knew how the planners desperately tried to start world war the past couple of years. Starting with N Korea and then Iran and Russia. But it never happened so yea they failed on this aspect , at least for the time being. We now have the "pestilence" more could appear. Texas has had a glimpse of famine. And I do believe its in their plan. And of course earthquakes. How easy it would be to make them with their earthquake machines. I am also anticipating a total collapse of communication since it is hard to believe that they dont have a backup system for their use. Along with the earthquakes are power failures, broken water pipes and more. So as Bill suggested on another thread "So get prepared while you still can, because time is running out" BUT please do it calmly and dont forget other people. And as Constance suggested on another thread " get back to nature" Its the best place to be in this time. I have all my tools at hand. I'm going to get an engine that I could run on wood. I will be able to fabricate anything from scratch. have not yet started on food but its going to be modest. maybe a months supply for the whole family. This is the first time I have done this and hopefully the last.
"For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. 22 If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short"
I dont believe that the source/ universe have preference for any of its creations. But the overlord certainly have. I wonder who would be the chosen ones. But if they are successful in their plans (which I believe they wont) then I dont want to be one of the elect serf. Good luck and dont forget to have fun no matter what.
Ron Mauer Sr
19th February 2021, 16:13
A dark side strategy is to suggest fearful images of where we are to focus our attention. Because we are magnets to our focused thoughts, perhaps we are being manipulated, as loyal opposition, to create what we do not want.
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pyrangello
19th February 2021, 18:38
Here's one of the things I mentioned prior, Isn't it fantastic we are going back to the way things use to be :( . Trump Gone Less than a Month and War is Back on the Menu, Boys! ISIS Returns; NATO To announce Increase in Troops into Iraq
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/trump-gone-less-than-a-month-and-war-is-back-on-the-menu-boys-isis-returns-nato-to-announce-increase-in-troops-into-iraq
Jim_Duyer
19th February 2021, 18:47
I'm not sure what's coming next. But my first major was in Macro Economics before I switched to Law, and I can tell you that some of the changes that I have seen proposed will lead to an economic stagnation tied to higher interest rates. Remember Reagan? You might think he was a sweet guy, like I do, compared to what's coming down the pike based on what they propose.
And why nobody has been arrested? Well, Trump didn't either, and although I voted for him, I wondered why
not? Here's that answer:
Fact checked!
Yes, the governor of Michigan used to work for george soros
Yes, Calif gov. Gavin Newsom is Nancy Pelosi's nephew.
Yes, Adam Shiff's sister is married to one of George Soros’ sons.
Yes, John Kerry's daughter is married to a mullah's son in Iran.
Yes, Hillary's daughter Chelsea is married to George Soros' nephew.
Yes, abc news executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, Obama's former national security adviser.
Yes, cbs president David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama's deputy national security adviser for strategic communications.
Yes, abc news correspondent Claire Shipman is married to Jay Carney, former Obama white house press secretary.
Yes, abc news and univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama's former deputy press secretary.
Yes, abc president Ben Sherwood is the brother of Elizabeth Sherwood, Obama's former special adviser.
Yes, cnn vp Virginia Moseley is married to Tom Nides, former Hillary Clinton's deputy secretary.
This is what you call a stacked deck.
If you had a hunch the news media was somewhat rigged and you couldn't put your finger on it, this might help you solve the puzzle. now you know why no one is investigated. Ever.
Arcturian108
19th February 2021, 18:48
Here, the Founder and CEO of GAB states his goals for what happens next in America, with a great visual:
https://news.gab.com/2021/02/17/its-time-to-build-our-own-economy/
Here are the first few paragraphs:
"The problem with the American Populist movement is that it was centralized.
Centralized movements give the enemy a central attack vector to target and overcome. One man, who took on the weight of the world, became the sole focus of both the enemy and of the American Populist movement itself for over five years.
The oligarchs removed that one man from the entire internet, then they removed him from office. Everyone knows this, we all watched it happen. What no one has clearly defined is where American Populism goes from here.
The oligarchs believe that they have destroyed American Populism by rigging an election, removing the movement’s leader from public view, and by forcing everyone to stay locked inside for a year while the country burns down around us all.
They think they have won and want to define “New Normal” under their rule as they consolidate power. What they don’t realize is that they have recruited tens of millions of Americans to the side of reason, light, and Truth. Many millions of these people didn’t even vote for Donald Trump, but they recognize what is happening to our country and want to stop it.
Over the course of the past year I’ve seen comments across the internet become increasingly “red pilled” and aware of the Big Lies being pushed by the corporate media and frauds in government. It turns out that keeping people locked inside on the internet for an entire year ends up illuminating a lot of minds."
ZenBaller
19th February 2021, 18:57
Does anyone remember Nancy Lieder, the Zetas and their "white lie" in the early 2000s? NESARA soon thereafter? I remember thousands of people in GLP waiting for the announcement in the news. Dates passed, week by week, month by month, nothing happened. What about the huge earth changes that would lead to the amazing 2012? Never came. Even 21/12/12 was just another day. After that, new agers try desperately to call it some kind of internal shift, but the truth is that it's just a defense mechanism because no one could fathom that nothing happened. It was never even proven that 21/12/12 was the end of the Mayan Calendar. It was just one of various theories. No one really knows if it happened 20 years earlier or later.
Since then, we had multiple dates and prophecies that would lead up to the Event that has been trending the past few years. Shills like Cobra, Q etc. steadily manipulate people's hope for a better world and turn it into an endless waiting. The desperation of living under the cabal, reached the point where we idolized a spoiled billionaire into some kind of saint who would turn things around and make the Disclosure among other things. Nothing happened as it was completely expected.
So, where do we are now? Still waiting a few more months for Trump to change the world? What about later? A new date? Another messiah? For how long are you prepared to replay this process? For how long until we understand that everything changes from within, not externally. Understand that all our "opponents", from that irritating family member to the reptilians, are doing as a great favour, forcing us to turn inwards to heal our own traumas and find our real spiritual nature.
Bubu
19th February 2021, 23:33
Here, the Founder and CEO of GAB states his goals for what happens next in America, with a great visual:
https://news.gab.com/2021/02/17/its-time-to-build-our-own-economy/
Here are the first few paragraphs:
"The problem with the American Populist movement is that it was centralized.
Centralized movements give the enemy a central attack vector to target and overcome. One man, who took on the weight of the world, became the sole focus of both the enemy and of the American Populist movement itself for over five years.
The oligarchs removed that one man from the entire internet, then they removed him from office. Everyone knows this, we all watched it happen. What no one has clearly defined is where American Populism goes from here.
The oligarchs believe that they have destroyed American Populism by rigging an election, removing the movement’s leader from public view, and by forcing everyone to stay locked inside for a year while the country burns down around us all.
They think they have won and want to define “New Normal” under their rule as they consolidate power. What they don’t realize is that they have recruited tens of millions of Americans to the side of reason, light, and Truth. Many millions of these people didn’t even vote for Donald Trump, but they recognize what is happening to our country and want to stop it.
Over the course of the past year I’ve seen comments across the internet become increasingly “red pilled” and aware of the Big Lies being pushed by the corporate media and frauds in government. It turns out that keeping people locked inside on the internet for an entire year ends up illuminating a lot of minds."
Yes, another truth nicely put. A lot now coming out. This is my stand for a very long time. Hippie like communities or intentional communities will function ideally. Along with the abolition of money. Its very clear now that absurdities could not have been carried out without bribe money. I also dont buy into the "robot will replace human labor". If people had no job and had no food in the cities , where do they go? I've seen this many times in my lifetime. remote place dweller going to the cities with the thought of a good life only to come back years later.
Bubu
20th February 2021, 00:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8j2LidoNDshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8j2LidoNDs
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