Dr Geert Vanden Bossche, top vaccine developer, warns against vaccine rollout

[Anna70]

Just came across this video, where top vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche explains why the current vaccine rollout is a dangerous mistake from his scientific angle.

Although his comments regarding the benefits and safety of the new jabs as such seem rather premature in my humble opinion, I found it very interesting to hear his explanation of how the broad protection by the innate immune system gets outcompeted by this too specific weapon, leaving the body vulnerable to any pathogen that differs from the one targeted by the vaccine.

At 23:45 he even states that we do not even know exactly what the virus is.

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[Johan (Keyholder)]

Good find!
Here are two pdf's, in English:

https://www.deblauwetijger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Geert-vanden-Bossche.pdf

https://www.deblauwetijger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Geert-vanden-Bossche-2.pdf

Also very interesting to read, here:

https://dryburgh.com/geert-vanden-bossche-mass-vaccination-danger/

A quote by the doctor:

"Well, the answer is very easy. I mean, this is human behavior. If you’re having panic, we do something and we try to make ourselves believe that it is the right thing to do, until there is complete chaos and there is a complete disaster.

And then people say, I mean politicians will probably say, we have been advised by the scientists, and scientists will maybe point to somebody else, but this is now a situation.

I’m asking every single scientist to scrutinize, to look what I’m writing, to do the science and to study exactly the, I call these the immune pathogenesis of the disease. And because I like people to do their homework.

And if the science is wrong, if I’m proven wrong, I will admit it, but I can tell you, I’m putting my career, my reputation at stake.

I would not do this when I would not be 200% convinced. And it’s not about me, not about me at all. It’s about humanity. People don’t understand what is currently going on. And we have an obligation to explain this."

[Johan (Keyholder)]

There are several reactions to his theories. Below just one (link provided). Exaggerates? tell that the people that died (or their family) in Manaus (Brasil).

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/03/09/is-dr-geert-vanden-bossche-right-that-vaccination-amidst-a-pandemic-creates-an-irrepressible-monster/

"We await detailed scientific rebuttals of the various claims in the paper. But the current feeling among a number of sceptical scientists we are in touch with is that the paper greatly exaggerates the capacity of viral variants to evade the human immune system. Upon encountering a virus like SARS-CoV-2, a large repertoire of T-cell epitopes is produced which are capable of dealing with most variants.

By Will Jones / 9 March 2021 • 00.58
Vaccine Variants"

[Anna70]

Thank you for those links!!!

Regarding the emergence of new variants, someone pointed out how it is interesting that these have come from the very countries where vaccine trials were/are being held.

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[Bill Ryan]

It's an excellent interview. There are two different videos cited on the transcript page (https://dryburgh.com/geert-vanden-bossche-mass-vaccination-danger/), one that's 39 minutes long (Brighteon (https://www.brighteon.com/9a565b91-4791-430f-b47e-ebdaf806be9d)) and another that's nearly a couple hours (Bitchute (https://www.bitchute.com/video/oaAIt21sxTKN/)). The transcript is for the shorter one.

What jumped right out at me here is that Geert Vanden Bossche explains really clearly how come the vaccine is so dangerous, because it weakens the immune system to anything else other than this specific one thing.

But in a situation where there are many covid variants, that alone explains why there are SO many reports coming in almost daily of (e.g.) nursing homes where many came down with covid (and many died) almost immediately after being vaccinated. This is a very, very important thing he's pointing out here.

[Anna70]

Speculating what it would mean for the future if he is proven to be correct. Shielding for the vaccinated/gene therapy treated, who besides being extra vulnerable could be classed as potential asymptomatic carriers, while the great unvaxed regain freedom?

It would be ironic, but obviously not funny in the slightest.

[Tintin]

Geert Vanden Bossche letter, here:

PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY OF INTERNATIONAL CONCERN
Why mass vaccinaton amidst a pandemic creates an irrepressible monster

https://mcusercontent.com/92561d6dedb66a43fe9a6548f/files/bead7203-0798-4ac8-abe2-076208015556/Public_health_emergency_of_international_concert_Geert_Vanden_Bossche.01.pdf

[Anna70]

Many thanks to you all for all the (links to) documents! I have printed out many of them to read more thoroughly, and to share with the GP as well.

[Tintin]

Geert Vanden Bossche now has his own sub-folder in the Covid-19 Vaccines area of the library (https://avalonlibrary.net/?dir=Coronavirus_%28Wuhan_2019-nCov%29/Covid-19_Vaccines/Geert_Vanden_Bossche).

Here's the other important interview he did on March 8th with Dan Astin-Gregory on the Pandemic Podcast that covers much of what he shared with Philip Macmillan:

https://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_%28Wuhan_2019-nCov%29/Covid-19_Vaccines/Geert_Vanden_Bossche/The_Implications_of_Mass_Vaccination_during_a_Pandemic_w_Geert_Vanden_Bossche_Mar_8_2021.mp4

[Philippe]

There are several reactions to his theories. Below just one (link provided). Exaggerates? tell that the people that died (or their family) in Manaus (Brasil).

https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/03/09/is-dr-geert-vanden-bossche-right-that-vaccination-amidst-a-pandemic-creates-an-irrepressible-monster/

"We await detailed scientific rebuttals of the various claims in the paper. But the current feeling among a number of sceptical scientists we are in touch with is that the paper greatly exaggerates the capacity of viral variants to evade the human immune system. Upon encountering a virus like SARS-CoV-2, a large repertoire of T-cell epitopes is produced which are capable of dealing with most variants.

By Will Jones / 9 March 2021 • 00.58
Vaccine Variants"

Brasil has one of the highest mortality rates in the world. But one should take into consideration that the combined epidemics of Zika, Chikungunya, Dengue and Sars-Cov-2 make for a very vulnerable population.

[Trisher]

Just came across this video, where top vaccine developer Geert Vanden Bossche explains why the current vaccine rollout is a dangerous mistake from his scientific angle.

Although his comments regarding the benefits and safety of the new jabs as such seem rather premature in my humble opinion, I found it very interesting to hear his explanation of how the broad protection by the innate immune system gets outcompeted by this too specific weapon, leaving the body vulnerable to any pathogen that differs from the one targeted by the vaccine.

At 23:45 he even states that we do not even know exactly what the virus is.

l_ksalhIi5c

Thank you Anna70. I am busy passing this interview on to others and it is having some effect on those that are more mainstream in their thinking. The whole thing appears to be a mess but who knows how things will work out in the end.
:flower:

[thepainterdoug]

All interested in this thread. Im trying to put this discussion regarding Dr Geert in layman terms to share with friends and family.
Would anyone like to add, edit and correct to my breakdown


My interpretation ;  
This accredited Doctor/ Virologist  is not anti vax.  The covid vaccinations we are presently using are specific to the covid virus it's designed for.  But that virus is shedding off and trying to survive even from vaccinated people, AND NEW VARIANTS are being created. These variants will be resistant to these present vaccines.  So the vaccines will no longer work, but the vaccinated people will still be shedding off a new variant virus.
The further down side 
The problem is these vaxx target specifically  C 19 . But they will step up front get in the way and suppress our own general non specific response fighters  for all other pathogens  The new variants created will now start to become perilous to younger people and children who could originally fight off the original C19 with their own natural non specific immune fighters.People who have been vaccinated will be left with a defenseless non specific immune worker system to fight off all other contaminants and diseases that are not C 19.So other diseases can step in and take hold much easierWe are playing with fire , and we don't really know what all this is. 

I Have no answers except for myself which is, to do nothing and be fit and healthy

[thepainterdoug]

And add this to the mix/ verification of the warnings of the posts above. The Unz report
https://outline.com/dCuErC

[Metaphor]

And add this to the mix/ verification of the warnings of the posts above. The Unz report
https://outline.com/dCuErC

I suggest you all read this article above. It was quite an eye opener. Things could be very real soon. It implies that 2020 was just the test run. And do read it here (https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/operation-vaxx-all-deplorables-codename-satans-poker/), at the original source, since the comments do give it contrast and more depth.

[meat suit]

And add this to the mix/ verification of the warnings of the posts above. The Unz report
https://outline.com/dCuErC

I suggest you all read this article above. It was quite an eye opener. Things could be very real soon. It implies that 2020 was just the test run. And do read it here (https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/operation-vaxx-all-deplorables-codename-satans-poker/), at the original source, since the comments do give it contrast and more depth.

Absolutely! this is the next level...

[thepainterdoug]

This article I posted above is valuable. However, the title and the image poster are misleading and I do not think it will help to get this info out. I already know if i send it to my trump hating friends, it will be deleted on the spot

[Anna70]

Dr Vernon Coleman supports Geert vander Bossche's warning in his latest video on BrandNewTube.


https://brandnewtube.com/watch/covid-19-vaccines-are-weapons-of-mass-destruction-and-could-wipe-out-the-human-race_GcjtJu9dY1RcSNh.html

[Delight]

Dr Vernon Coleman supports Geert vander Bossche's warning in his latest video on BrandNewTube.


https://brandnewtube.com/watch/covid-19-vaccines-are-weapons-of-mass-destruction-and-could-wipe-out-the-human-race_GcjtJu9dY1RcSNh.html

Not everyone is on board with Bossche. I think we who are opposed with concerns over artificial immunity and its effect on our whole world were glad he might stop this roll out. :"Live to Fight Another Day". I did notice that he suggested we all be vaccinated. Mass vaccination with maybe a different one? Stop for a moment and maybe the world comes to sense?

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I think this may be for me evidence and more evidence that sincerely the noosphere (or whatever we should call it) is shattered. I keep saying that to myself then I still am surprised with how this is playing out

[Delight]

Synopsis of his opinion

The science behind the catastrophic consequences of thoughtless human interventon
in the Covid-19 pandemic
– Geert Vanden Bossche (DVM, PhD, March 13 2021)
(https://37b32f5a-6ed9-4d6d-b3e1-5ec648ad9ed9.filesusr.com/ugd/28d8fe_0876a485f5314574a96a201f5a0d4619.pdf)

[Delight]

This supports Bossche....


Dr. Byram Bridle on COVID-19 Mass Vaccination Programs: “We Are Optimizing The Chance For A Variant To Emerge That Can Bypass All Of These Vaccines”
March 15th, 2021 (https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=60915)

New Zealand is particularly screwed:

A country like New Zealand, which has isolated itself and may not have substantial, naturally acquired immunity, which is gonna be very broad and is relying on these vaccines, may be able to vaccinate their population.

But if the rest of the world has these variants circulating, all those vaccinated individuals are gonna be susceptible to these variants that don’t care about that spike protein specific immunity anymore.

And you may, as a population, have wanted much more broad immunity that’s conferred by natural natural acquisition of immunity, meaning you acquire the infection and clear it. So I’m very concerned about this.

Via: Dryburgh.com:

If you were to ask me as a scientist, how would I design an experiment that would maximise our chance of generating a highly immunio evasive variant of the SARS Coronavirus 2?

My answer would be, essentially, the exact way we are rolling out these vaccines, precisely the way they’re rolling out these vaccines.

…

The way we’re rolling this out, as I said, we are optimizing the chance for a variant to emerge that can bypass all of these vaccines.

Research Credit: Jb


"My prediction, in the future, is that the history books ... will document this as the greatest mismanaged crisis of our time, unfortunately" Dr Byram Bridle

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[Anna70]

I just found this article by Rosemary Frei (https://www.rosemaryfrei.ca/the-curious-case-of-geert-vanden-bossche/) via Twitter, which raises questions about Vanden Bossche's case.

[Anna70]

Thank you, Delight, for sharing this. I've also just come across a more critical article regarding Vanden Bossche, and apparently he is not willing to appear on the Richie Allen Show now either.

It is hard to know exactly what to make of all this. In the middle of the current emergency, i.e. that of people getting jabbed left, right and centre, it seemed a good thing to be able to point to someone from "the other side" speaking out against this mass vaccination programme, as it would be difficult to dismiss his warning as another piece of anti-vax scaremongery.

In a larger context, goodness knows what's what with all the smoke and mirrors.

[mountain_jim]

Thanks Anna70 for providing this alternative view of the situation here



So I decided to write this article to expose a few of the dozens of clues that this curious case is a continuation of the overall Covid deception.

Here are some more of those clues:

1. In his March 11 segment, Bigtree shows a slide with Vanden Bossche’s background. It indicates he’s affiliated with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI), GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis and other vaccine proponents. Dell dubs Vanden Bossche a “world-renowned vaccine creator.” Coleman calls him “a very eminent vaccine specialist.”

But, when combined with the contents of his open letter, it’s impossible to believe that he’s in fact an insider who’s now going against his very high-powered
comrades. (More on this below.) It’s more likely that he’s their accomplice.

...


7. Vanden Bossche drives at the need for “large vaccination campaigns.” These, he writes, should be for “NK [natural-killer]-cell–based vaccines” that “will primarily enable our natural immunity to be better prepared … and to induce herd immunity.”

But it’s not very logical to believe that the only solution to the theoretical possibility of immune escape, as espoused by someone who’s got a long and strong focus on vaccination as opposed to other ways to improve health, is yet more mass vaccination.

Not to mention that the concept of herd immunity is contrive. After all, if your immune system is protecting you against a pathogen, it doesn’t matter whether someone else’s is or not.

I do agree that we should stop the use of the current vaccines. But we also we need to stop production and use of antivirals and antibodies and all other parts of the Covid-industrial complex.

Covid has an extremely high survival rate. So why develop yet another expensive, invasive and experimental solution to a problem that barely exists, if it does at all?

It’s all very curious.


While I try and keep focus on all the facts as best as we can determine, I am staying well away of the current vaccines as I have from all recent vaccines - trusting my own health and immune system is my choice in the risk/reward equation so far.

[Journeyman]

Thank you for sharing this. I've also just come across a more critical article regarding Vanden Bossche, and apparently he is not willing to appear on the Richie Allen Show now either.

It is hard to know exactly what to make of all this. In the middle of the current emergency, i.e. that of people getting jabbed left, right and centre, it seemed a good thing to be able to point to someone from "the other side" speaking out against this mass vaccination programme, as it would be difficult to dismiss his warning as another piece of anti-vax scaremongery.

In a larger context, goodness knows what's what with all the smoke and mirrors.

Could be deliberate, an attempt to 'own both sides' of the vaccine debate? I think that goes on a fair bit (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29743646) and if you think about it as a strategy it makes perfect sense. You know there will be opposition, so why not position assets to take leading roles in it? That way you can control the counter narrative and inject sufficient disinformation or bad ideas to derail or diffuse any opposition or if need be to encourage via agents provacateurs actions which will rebound on your opponents. Maybe Vanden Bossche is an example of this? He puts out the big claims, they're taken up by the most well known figures in the anti vax movements, then when his claims fail to stand up to scrutiny, everyone is discredited.

[Bill Ryan]

I have to say, I felt he sounded totally sincere. Just because he believes in the efficacy of normal vaccines (vaccines that really are vaccines!), that doesn't make him an evil, scheming demon. :) Everything he stated about the dangers of the new vaccine push made perfect sense to me.

[Anna70]

At around 29:22 he says it is very obvious that the emergent variants are not the results of vaccination, as it was way before vaccination was implemented in most countries.

The interviewer then rightly points out that the strains appeared in the very countries where the trials took place. Something he must surely be aware of.

Yet, although this correlation might appear to actually support Vanden Bossche's very point, he seems to move swiftly on, going on about what happens when a highly infectious strain is introduced(?) in a country, as if this correlation has no possible relevance.

Can anyone make sense of this?

EDIT: By the question mark after 'introduced' I don't mean to express suspicion, but to be able to introduce something, it must first exist, so there he skips over the essential question about origin of the thing. He comes back to that, but not, as far as I heard, in relation to the trial locations.

https://avalonlibrary.net/Coronavirus_%28Wuhan_2019-nCov%29/Covid-19_Vaccines/Geert_Vanden_Bossche/The_Implications_of_Mass_Vaccination_during_a_Pandemic_w_Geert_Vanden_Bossche_Mar_8_2021.mp4

[Delight]

Thank you, Delight, for sharing this. I've also just come across a more critical article regarding Vanden Bossche, and apparently he is not willing to appear on the Richie Allen Show now either.

It is hard to know exactly what to make of all this. In the middle of the current emergency, i.e. that of people getting jabbed left, right and centre, it seemed a good thing to be able to point to someone from "the other side" speaking out against this mass vaccination programme, as it would be difficult to dismiss his warning as another piece of anti-vax scaremongery.

In a larger context, goodness knows what's what with all the smoke and mirrors.

WHY would he stand out if he is not trying to stop a terrible catastrophe? First off, this is a GIANT EXPERIMENT for a SEEMING pifflling epidemic and we have no idea how it will effect us.

Bossche is a vaccine advocate. IMO it is counting for something that he and others are stating this present roll out is BEYOND pro and anti vax. For him to say it is potentially earth shattering for the human race is BIG.

I would not spend time trying to debunk him but TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY and Rosemary Frei is acting like controlled opposition or something I don't grok?

[Trisher]

He came across as thoroughly genuine to me and has made a difference to a few people on the edge of having it that I showed it to. Of course there will be many attempts to undermine him. That's par for the course.

[Delight]

He may be aiming at his own product line but still, I am glad someone is saying STOP. How can we avert this mass MANDATORY VACCINATION plan?

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[Journeyman]

I have to say, I felt he sounded totally sincere. Just because he believes in the efficacy of normal vaccines (vaccines that really are vaccines!), that doesn't make him an evil, scheming demon. :) Everything he stated about the dangers of the new vaccine push made perfect sense to me.

He sounded sincere to me too and seemed to be making sense to this layman.

[Anna70]

WHY would he stand out if he is not trying to stop a terrible catastrophe? First off, this is a GIANT EXPERIMENT for a SEEMING pifflling epidemic and we have no idea how it will effect us.

Bossche is a vaccine advocate. IMO it is counting for something that he and others are stating this present roll out is BEYOND pro and anti vax. For him to say it is potentially earth shattering for the human race is BIG.

I would not spend time trying to debunk him but TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY and Rosemary Frei is acting like controlled opposition or something I don't grok?

You're so right: this is BEYOND pro and anti vax. And yes, he is taking a huge career risk, so he must feel very strongly about the dangers of the current rollout. I didn't mean to try and debunk him, but a couple of things didn't sit entirely comfortably with me: the vaccines as such being 'excellent' when we cannot possibly know this yet, and how the correlation of the variants and trial countries was not explored any further. But then, I can see how coming out with anything that might indicate such a link would land one into seriously tricky territory, so that could be the reason.

I felt I had to post the Rosemary Frei link because it was out there, not because I agreed or disagreed, and it helps to have more discerning people looking at these things, and strengthening the case by dismantling any misinformation, whichever side it is on.

[Ewan]

If I may interject, it is my considered opinion that all vaccines throughout history have in fact been misguided if not worse. Their efficacy is next to zero and the longer term repercussions have always been making humans more susceptible to disease, not less.

I cannot recommend this book (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dissolving-Illusions-Disease-Vaccines-Forgotten/dp/1480216895/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1615930779&refinements=p_27%3ASuzanne+Humphries+MD&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Suzanne+Humphries+MD) highly enough.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41vuCYNQ5aL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

[Anna70]

Many thanks indeed for this book recommendation, Ewan. It looks like it is THE one to read on the subject, and even the reviews contain vital information from people's personal experiences.

[Bill Ryan]

Many thanks indeed for this book recommendation, Ewan. It looks like it is THE one to read on the subject, and even the reviews contain vital information from people's personal experiences.

Here it is (https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Suzanne%20Humphries%20MD%2C%20Roman%20Bystrianyk%20-%20Dissolving%20Illusions%20-%20Disease%2C%20Vaccines%20and%20the%20Forgotten%20History.pdf) in the Avalon Library. :thumbsup:

[Delight]

I just found this article by Rosemary Frei (https://www.rosemaryfrei.ca/the-curious-case-of-geert-vanden-bossche/) via Twitter, which raises questions about Vanden Bossche's case.

Rosemary Frei's Twitter article has been reprinted by Vaccine Impact and Children's Health Defence. That is really interesting to me and a little confusing. Confusing to me because there is a strong need of coordination to STOP the covid gene therapy IMO. Does this cause a whirlpool swirl instead of a flow towards a common destination?

Why is Geert Vanden Bossche Getting So Much Exposure in the Alternative Health Media? Could this Pro-Vaccine Scientist be “Controlled Opposition”? (https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/why-is-geert-vanden-bossche-getting-so-much-exposure-in-the-alternative-health-media-could-this-pro-vaccine-scientist-be-controlled-opposition/)

03/16/21
Rebuttal: The ‘Not-So-Hidden Agenda’ Behind Bossche’s Concern Over COVID Mass Vaccination
In her rebuttal to Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche’s open letter to the WHO, Rosemary Frei, MSc, outlines what she says are “a few of the dozens of clues” suggesting that Bossche’s argument “is a continuation of the overall COVID deception.”

By
Rosemary Frei (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rebuttal-rosemary-frei-bossche-vaccination-concern/?itm_term=home)

[Tintin]

I just found this article by Rosemary Frei (https://www.rosemaryfrei.ca/the-curious-case-of-geert-vanden-bossche/) via Twitter, which raises questions about Vanden Bossche's case.

Rosemary Frei's Twitter article has been reprinted by Vaccine Impact and Children's Health Defence. That is really interesting to me and a little confusing. Confusing to me because there is a strong need of coordination to STOP the covid gene therapy IMO. Does this cause a whirlpool swirl instead of a flow towards a common destination?

Why is Geert Vanden Bossche Getting So Much Exposure in the Alternative Health Media? Could this Pro-Vaccine Scientist be “Controlled Opposition”? (https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/why-is-geert-vanden-bossche-getting-so-much-exposure-in-the-alternative-health-media-could-this-pro-vaccine-scientist-be-controlled-opposition/)

03/16/21
Rebuttal: The ‘Not-So-Hidden Agenda’ Behind Bossche’s Concern Over COVID Mass Vaccination
In her rebuttal to Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche’s open letter to the WHO, Rosemary Frei, MSc, outlines what she says are “a few of the dozens of clues” suggesting that Bossche’s argument “is a continuation of the overall COVID deception.”

By
Rosemary Frei (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/rebuttal-rosemary-frei-bossche-vaccination-concern/?itm_term=home)

None of this is aimed at you Maggie but just a response to the linked articles - my thoughts, on the fly: I have enormous respect for Rosemary Frei. She writes very well usually, but, in this instance I do rather think that she's perhaps gone a little paranoid.

Geert Vanden Bossche hasn't got any conflict of interest; he's clearly and transparently laid out his background and it seems that the 'alternative' (or new) media are leaping onto this from a staunchly anti-vax stance without being objective, at all.

This is Bossche's area of expertise after all and he needs to be listened to, and understood. I'm no fan of vaccines for their own sakes, trust me, but to bandy around this accusation (sic) is ridiculous; to make an enemy of him is to spectacularly miss the real point of what he is saying. That these mRNA vaccines are likely extraordinarily dangerous and their use should be halted immediately.

What on earth is wrong with that?

Just because he is obviously pro-vax shouldn't make him public enemy number one in the 'Alt media' which as we know, and in these moments especially is equally guilty of the worst excesses of their nemesis, the 'old media'.

He's actually stepped up and had some cojones to do that here. The fact that he has worked with GAVI and de-facto the Gates' is important to know. The content in his letter doesn't strike me as being open to editorialising to the degree that Frei, and disappointingly this time only, CHD. have who are just heaping more intrigue and speculation than is at all necessary.

Rosemary, on this occasion, sadly, has demonstrated only an extraordinarily high degree of paranoia it seems and the weight of CHD's support has now amplified it.

This doesn't serve the best interests of anyone.

[Anna70]

Here it is (https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Suzanne%20Humphries%20MD%2C%20Roman%20Bystrianyk%20-%20Dissolving%20Illusions%20-%20Disease%2C%20Vaccines%20and%20the%20Forgotten%20History.pdf) in the Avalon Library. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0701%20Yes.gif

That is great, Bill, thank you so much!!!

[Anna70]

Yes, in this situation we need to keep the urgent short term goal in mind, and the more voices from people in the industry are speaking out against the rollout, the better. To publicly attack the first person who sticks their neck out, might prevent others from doing the same, which would not help the cause at all.

[Tintin]

If I may interject, it is my considered opinion that all vaccines throughout history have in fact been misguided if not worse. Their efficacy is next to zero and the longer term repercussions have always been making humans more susceptible to disease, not less.

I cannot recommend this book (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dissolving-Illusions-Disease-Vaccines-Forgotten/dp/1480216895/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1615930779&refinements=p_27%3ASuzanne+Humphries+MD&s=books&sr=1-1&text=Suzanne+Humphries+MD) highly enough.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41vuCYNQ5aL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Great :thumbsup:

About 4 or 5 days ago I'd downloaded a supporting video to this book and I'll flag that up soon.

[Tintin]

Many thanks indeed for this book recommendation, Ewan. It looks like it is THE one to read on the subject, and even the reviews contain vital information from people's personal experiences.

Here it is (ftp://admin_avlibbill:@142.93.203.225/public_html/ebooks/Suzanne%20Humphries%20MD%2C%20Roman%20Bystrianyk%20-%20Dissolving%20Illusions%20-%20Disease%2C%20Vaccines%20and%20the%20Forgotten%20History.pdf) in the Avalon Library. :thumbsup:

Bill, you've used the library admin link here and not the actual library link itself. :flower:

Here's the actual link :highfive:

https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Suzanne%20Humphries%20MD%2C%20Roman%20Bystrianyk%20-%20Dissolving%20Illusions%20-%20Disease%2C%20Vaccines%20and%20the%20Forgotten%20History.pdf

[kfm27917]

Default Re: Avoiding the Experimental Vaccine
On March 6, an open letter by Geert Vanden Bossche, PhD, DVM, and a video interview of him by Phillip McMillan, MD, from a company called Vejon Health, were posted online.

On the surface, Vanden Bossche appears to perhaps be addressing credible concerns about Covid.

He's saying that the current crop of Covid vaccines will cause the novel coronavirus to mutate into a "super-infectious virus." And therefore he's calling for an immediate halt of the use of the current vaccines.

If humans are "committed to perpetuating our species, we have no choice but to eradicate these highly infectious viral variants" via "large vaccination campaigns," Vanden Bossche claims at the conclusion of his open letter. However, he continues, in contrast to the currently used Covid vaccines, these new vaccines must focus on stimulation of mass production of the component of the immune system known as natural killer cells, he asserts.

But Vanden Bossche bases his views on unproven hypotheses. This is similar to, and builds on, high-profile modeling-paper authors who use theoretical frameworks to inflame fears about the supposed dangerousness of the new variants.

Despite this, Vanden Bossche's views were very quickly and positively received by high-profile vaccine sceptics such as Del Bigtree in his March 11 episode (starting at 57:25) and Vernon Coleman in his March 13 video and article.

more at
https://www.sott.net/article/450176-...Vanden-Bossche

[Anna70]

Ah, thank you. I thought it was something to do with my password that stopped me from entering that way, so I went via the Library tab instead. If I'd realised, I'd have mentioned it. :o

This book has come along at the perfect time for me, as my niece is pregnant, and I'm sure she would hugely appreciate some unbiased information on this subject. Luckily one of my best friends has a young son, who has never been vaccinated, and he is a picture of health and wise beyond his years.

By the way, I received two texts today, inviting me to get the Covid jab. I'm curious to find out which one they were having in mind. The answer would be the same though: not a chance.

[Delight]

I REALLY REALLY LOVE UK Column news! Starts off discussing the "immune escape" information....

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We are not doomed like a bunch of chickens... use everything you know to enhance your immune systems.

[Anna70]

UK Column News - 19th March 2021

Some excellent points being made here regarding Vander Bossche.

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[Delight]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExK5C6rUYAAOjB6?format=png&name=small

Everyone who is working around vaccinated people should be shoring up their immune systems IMO. Read this thread and be aware....

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[Philippe]

Thank you Delight for the testimonies about vaccinated shedding the virus to others. Should be communicated broadly now.

Concerning the warning from Vanden Bossche (and others) about losing the innate broad spectrum immunity because of the vaccine, I throw in here the information from Moderna where they claim that their RNAm medicine could heal many diseases

https://tapnewswire.com/2021/01/moderna-admits-here-that-what-they-inject-now-is-an-operating-system/?fbclid=IwAR0d_Ymsf0LQfTTa1h6pebA8U_ReygTGH4jtLNGX6B0LPH8SkOOpQURnnZc


Enabling Drug Discovery & Development

We built Moderna on the guiding premise that if using mRNA as a medicine works for one disease, it should work for many diseases. And, if this is possible – given the right approach and infrastructure – it could meaningfully improve how medicines are discovered, developed and manufactured.

I do not want their poison for anybody, but just to point out the type of propaganda and wishful thinking they are spreading. We still have some way to go to see by What and especially because of Who the bodies on this planet are sometimes in a dire state of affairs.

[Delight]

Thank you Delight for the testimonies about vaccinated shedding the virus to others. Should be communicated broadly now.

Concerning the warning from Vanden Bossche (and others) about losing the innate broad spectrum immunity because of the vaccine, I throw in here the information from Moderna where they claim that their RNAm medicine could heal many diseases

https://tapnewswire.com/2021/01/moderna-admits-here-that-what-they-inject-now-is-an-operating-system/?fbclid=IwAR0d_Ymsf0LQfTTa1h6pebA8U_ReygTGH4jtLNGX6B0LPH8SkOOpQURnnZc


Enabling Drug Discovery & Development

We built Moderna on the guiding premise that if using mRNA as a medicine works for one disease, it should work for many diseases. And, if this is possible – given the right approach and infrastructure – it could meaningfully improve how medicines are discovered, developed and manufactured.

I do not want their poison for anybody, but just to point out the type of propaganda and wishful thinking they are spreading. We still have some way to go to see by What and especially because of Who the bodies on this planet are sometimes in a dire state of affairs.

New video

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[Tintin]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExK5C6rUYAAOjB6?format=png&name=small

Everyone who is working around vaccinated people should be shoring up their immune systems IMO. Read this thread and be aware....

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Thanks :thumbsup:

My goodness, sobering reading. If one expands her thread further there are indeed dozens of suspicions about possible vaccine exposure side effects. I've saved around three dozen of them but I could be here all night doing any more.

There's enough captured for now indicating the possible potential scale of the problem.

[Delight]

New video

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Almost immediately after Geert Vanden Bossche revealed his deep worry over the consequences of mass vaccination during an ongoing pandemic, Rosemary Frei dissed Bossche in an ad hominem attack based on his history as vaccine developer. She dissed The Highwire for the concerns that if he is correct, it could be a mass murder. Several outlets spread her article.

She declined to come on the Highwire to discuss her issues which is interesting. She replied by email. She said the show was dangerously spreading fear and also attacked the "credulous" viewers in her email to the show. Considering the gravity of the situation, it is very significant that she was uninterested in exploring IF he might have merit? IMO she acted as a very fine controlled opposition.

IMO there is frighteningly consistent internecine undermine when the possible allies all just fight one another. People tear down and destroy "the players on the same team" and cannot come together to dialogue, understand and RESPOND healthily to issues that may mean life and death. It is sickening and inexcusable and so heart breaking that it almost feels as if we deserve the fate that may be rolling over us.

The above video was attached to an article that came out on Children's Health Defense 3/25 which shows that after consideration the Interviewer agrees Bossche' concerns should be addressed. This may help change the minds of people who LAST week were throwing Bossche' concerns "under the bus".

PLEASE watch the https://thehighwire.com/watch/Highwire episode today starting from 51:50 . Along with UK Column News, The Highwire is a respectable and trustworthy source. They are similar in giving the raw data and by the deep questions raised.


Interview With Vanden Bossche: Should Mass COVID Vaccinations Be Stopped?
After several hours of discussion, Rob Verkerk, Ph.D., of Alliance for Natural Health International concludes it would be “scientifically, socially and ethically irresponsible” to dismiss Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche’s concerns about mass vaccination.

By
Alliance for Natural Health International

(https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/interview-rob-verkerk-vanden-bossche-mass-covid-vaccinations/?itm_term=home)EDITOR’S NOTE: The Defender is committed to providing a space for scientific debate. This piece is an interview conducted by Rob Verkerk, Ph.D., with Geert Vanden Bossche, Ph.D. The interview follows Verkerk’s recent analysis of the ongoing debate (this piece + this piece) sparked by Bossche concerning immune escape and mass vaccination during a pandemic.

Welcome to the first episode of our new interview series, Speaking Naturally — Open Discourses in a Censored World. In it we have the great pleasure of providing an in-depth interview with Geert Vanden Bossche, Ph.D., whose name will be familiar to anyone with a keen interest in understanding the effects of the current COVID mass vaccination program.

About our guest

Vanden Bossche knows a thing or two about vaccines and is a self-declared pro-vaxxer. He is a seasoned vaccine developer (vaccinologist) with a track record with GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines and Solvay Biologicals. He’s also worked with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle as senior program officer and as senior Ebola program manager with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization in Geneva.

However, in early March, Vanden Bossche put out a call to the World Health Organization, supported by a 12-page document on a dedicated website especially set up to communicate his concerns. We responded with a 4,000-word article that tried to steer an objective line through conflicting streams of information and consider the implications of what appeared to be a whistleblower.


Vanden Bossche’s ‘hockey stick’ hypothesis

With Alliance for Natural Health’s founder, Rob Verkerk Ph.D., now having spent several hours in discussion with Vanden Bossche, we are now of the view that it would be scientifically, socially and ethically irresponsible to dismiss Vanden Bossche’s concerns. The key one is that the current COVID control strategies, including the global mass vaccination program, will create an “uncontrollable monster.”

In summary, the concerns center around the notion that a combination of lockdowns and extreme selection pressure on the virus induced by the intense global mass vaccination program might diminish the number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths in the short-term, but ultimately, will induce the creation of more mutants of concern.

This is the result of what Vanden Bossche calls ‘immune escape’ (i.e. incomplete sterilization of the virus by the human immune system, even following vaccine administration). This will in turn trigger vaccine companies to further refine vaccines that will add, not reduce, the selection pressure, so producing ever more transmissible and potentially deadly variants.

The selection pressure will cause greater convergence in mutations that affect the critical spike protein of the virus that is responsible for breaking through the mucosal surfaces of our airways, the route used by the virus to enter the human body. The virus will effectively outsmart the highly specific antigen-based vaccines that are being used and tweaked, dependent on the circulating variants. All of this could lead to a hockey stick-like increase in serious and potentially lethal cases — in effect, an out-of-control pandemic.

Not only that, it will be Western nations with high proportions of metabolically diseased, overweight or obese individuals with compromised immune systems that will be hit hardest.

Of course, this is all speculation, and some will denounce Vanden Bossche’s views as fear tactics. Others will claim it is the ravings of an independent scientist that has put 2 and 2 together and made 5. If you’ve got 1.5 hours spare, you’d do well to listen or watch the whole interview and draw your own conclusion.

About the interview

During the interview, our founder asks Vanden Bossche:

What kind of reactions he’s had to the publications of his views — both good and bad.
What he sees that some of his colleagues clearly don’t.
What kind of early warning signs or indicators might be available to see if Vanden Bossche’s hypothesis is turning into becoming a reality as worrisome as that might be — and we’ll compare this SARS-CoV-2 outbreak with previous coronaviruses, namely SARS1 and MERS.
What defines a vaccine? Given that the frontrunner vaccines are like none that preceded them.
What Vanden Bossche thinks governments and individuals should do — given what we know now.

Originally published by Alliance for Natural Health International.

The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of Children's Health Defense.

[Ewan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExK5C6rUYAAOjB6?format=png&name=small

Everyone who is working around vaccinated people should be shoring up their immune systems IMO. Read this thread and be aware....

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Thanks :thumbsup:

My goodness, sobering reading. If one expands her thread further there are indeed dozens of suspicions about possible vaccine exposure side effects. I've saved around three dozen of them but I could be here all night doing any more.

There's enough captured for now indicating the possible potential scale of the problem.

Going entirely from memory here, so likely innacurate - but the core remains accurate.

A few years ago there was an outbreak of measles in Wales and the press quite rapidly and uniformly blamed unvaccinated kids for spreading the virus - all the while ignoring the fact that the vaccinated should have been immune if the vaccination worked.

[Trisher]

This is the presentation by Geert Vanden Bossche, DVM, PhD about the risk of “viral escape” posed by “leaky vaccines.”

The summation is at around 40mins if you don't have time to watch it all.


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[Bill Ryan]

I believe this 15 minute video from Del Bigtree is new, and I don't believe it's been posted.

https://odysee.com/@HassanCryptonomade:f/Catastrophe-vaccinale-%C3%A0-venir-!!-Explications:f

I was sent this in French as Dr Geert Vanden Bossche's statement, and this is the English translation. It's imperfect, but it can easily be understood.

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To all the authorities, scientists and experts on the planet, as well as to the world population.

I'm anything but anti-vaccine. As a scientist I don't usually use such platforms to take positions on a vaccine-related topic. As a virologist and vaccine expert I make an exception only when health authorities approve the administration of vaccines in a way that threatens public health, specifically when scientific data is ignored.

The current situation, extremely critical, prompts me to broadcast this emergency appeal. Given the unprecedented scale of human interventions in the covid-19 pandemic, which risk causing an unparalleled global catastrophe, this call cannot therefore be strong enough.

Like I said, I am not against vaccination. On the contrary, I can assure you that each of the current vaccines has been designed, developed and manufactured by brilliant and knowledgeable scientists.

However, this type of prophylactic vaccines are completely inappropriate, and even very dangerous, when used in mass vaccination campaigns during a viral pandemic.

Vaccinologists, scientists and clinicians are blinded by the short-term positive effects of individual patents, but don't seem to be concerned about the dire consequences for global health.

Unless I'm scientifically wrong, it's hard to understand how current human interventions will prevent the circulating variants from turning into a wild monster.

In a race against time, I am finishing my scientific manuscript, the publication of which is unfortunately likely to come too late given the ever-increasing threat of the rapid spread of highly infectious variants.

That's why I decided to post a summary of my findings along with my opening speech at the recent Ohio Vaccine Summit on LinkedIn.

Last Monday, I provided international health organizations, including the WHO, with my analysis of the current pandemic based on scientifically documented information on the immune biology of Covid-19.

Given the level of urgency, I urged them to take my concerns into consideration and initiate a debate on the harmful consequences of a new 'viral immune breakout'. For those who are not experts in this field I attach a more accessible and understandable version of the scientific facts behind this insidious phenomenon.

While there is no time to waste, I haven't had any feedback so far. Pundits and politicians have remained silent while clearly still keen to talk about relaxing infection control rules and spring freedoms.

My statements are based only on science. They will only be contradicted by science.

While one can hardly make incorrect scientific claims without being criticized by one's peers, it seems that the elite of scientists who currently advise our world leaders prefer to remain silent. Sufficient scientific evidence has been put on the table.

Unfortunately, they remain ignored by those with the power to act. How long can the problem be ignored when there is currently massive evidence that viral immune breakout now threatens mankind? We will not be able to say that we did not know - or had not been warned.

In this agonizing letter, I put all my reputation and my credibility on the line. I expect the same from you, guardians of humanity, at least. It is of the utmost urgency. Open the debate.

We must reverse the trend by all means.

PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY OF INTERNATIONAL INTEREST

Why mass vaccination in the midst of a pandemic creates an irrepressible monster.

The key question is: why does no one seem to be worried about the viral immune breakout? Let me try to explain this through an easier to understand phenomenon: antimicrobial resistance. We can easily extrapolate this scourge to resistance to our self-made “antiviral antibiotics”.

Indeed, the antibodies (ANTIBODIES) produced by our own immune system can be considered as self-produced antiviral antibiotics, whether they are part of our innate immune system (so-called “natural” ANTIBODIES) or obtained in response to pathogens. specific (resulting in what is called “acquired” ANTIBODIES).

Natural antibodies are not specific to germs whereas acquired ANTIBODIES are specifically directed to the invading pathogen. At birth, our innate immune system is “inexperienced” but well established. It protects us from a multitude of pathogens, thus preventing these pathogens from causing disease.

As the innate immune system does not remember the pathogens it has encountered (innate immunity does not have a so-called "immunological memory"), we cannot continue to rely on it provided we keep it. "Trained" quite well.

Formation is achieved through regular exposure to a myriad of environmental agents, including pathogens. However, as we age we will increasingly face situations where our innate immunity (often referred to as the “first line of immune defense”) is not strong enough to stop the pathogen at the portal of entry (mainly mucous barriers such as respiratory or intestinal epithelia).

When this happens, the immune system has to rely on more specialized effector molecules from our immune system to fight the pathogen.

So, as we grow older, we increasingly mount specific immunity to pathogens, including very specific ANTIBODIES. As these have a stronger affinity for the pathogen (eg virus) and can reach high concentrations, they can very easily outperform our natural antibodies to bind to the pathogen / virus.

It is precisely this type of highly specific, high affinity Antibody that current Covid-19 vaccines induce. Of course, the noble purpose of these Antibodies is to protect us against Covid-19. So why should there be a major concern in using these vaccines to fight Covid-19?

Well, like the rules for conventional antimicrobial antibiotics, it is essential that our self-made “antiviral antibiotics” are available in sufficient strength and are tailored to the specific characteristics of our enemy.

That is why, in case of bacterial illness, it is essential not only to choose the right type of antibiotic (based on the results of an antibiogram), but also to take the antibiotic for a long enough time (as prescribed).

Failure to meet the requirements may give the microbes a chance to survive and, therefore, may cause disease to return. A very similar mechanism can also apply to viruses, in particular to viruses which can easily and quickly mutate (which is, for example, the case of coronaviruses); when pressure from the immune defense army (read: the population) begins to threaten viral replication and transmission, the virus will take on a different appearance so that it can no longer be easily recognized and, therefore, attacked by the host immune system. The virus is now able to evade immunity (so called: "immune breakout").

However, the virus can only rely on this strategy if it has enough room to replicate. Viruses, unlike most bacteria, must rely on living host cells to replicate. This is why the appearance of "escape mutants" is not too worrying as long as the probability for these variants to quickly find another host is quite remote. However, this is not particularly the case during a viral pandemic!

During a pandemic, the virus spreads all over the world with many people shedding and transmitting the virus (including asymptomatic “carriers”). The higher the viral load, the higher the likelihood that the virus will encounter people who have not yet been infected or who have been infected but have not developed symptoms.

Unless they are sufficiently protected by their innate immune defense (by natural ANTIBODIES), they will get covid-19 disease because they cannot rely on the acquired ANTIBODIES. It has been widely reported, indeed, that the increase in specific ANTIBODY S (spike) in asymptomatically infected individuals is rather limited and only short-lived. In addition, these ANTIBODIES have not reached full maturity.

The combination of viral infection against a background of suboptimal maturity and antibody concentration allows the virus to select for mutations that allow it to escape immune pressure. The selection of these mutations preferably occurs in the S-protein because it is the viral protein responsible for viral infectivity.

As the selected mutations give the virus an increased infectious capacity, it now becomes much easier for the virus to cause serious illness in infected individuals. The more people develop symptomatic disease, the more secure the virus can spread and replicate itself (people who develop severe disease will replicate more virus and for a longer period of time than infected but asymptomatic people).

Unfortunately, the short-lived increase in S-specific ANTIBODIES is not enough to bypass people with natural and innate antibodies. That is, with an increasing rate of infection in the population, the number of subjects who are infected while experiencing a momentary increase in specific S-ANTIBODIES will steadily increase.

Therefore, the number of subjects who are infected while experiencing a momentary decrease in their innate immunity will increase. As a result, an ever-increasing number of people will become more susceptible to serious illness rather than showing only mild symptoms (i.e. limited to the upper respiratory tract) or no symptoms at all. During a pandemic, especially young people will be affected by this development as their natural antibodies are not yet largely suppressed by a panoply of "acquired".

Natural ANTIBODIES, and natural immunity in general, play an essential role in protection against pathogens because they are our first line of immune defense. Unlike acquired immunity, innate immune responses protect against a broad spectrum of pathogens (so don't compromise or sacrifice your innate immune defense!).

Since natural antibodies and innate immune cells recognize a diverse spectrum of foreign (i.e. non-autonomous) agents (only some of which have pathogenic potential), it is important, indeed, to maintain it. sufficiently exposed to environmental challenges.

By keeping the innate immune system (which unfortunately has no memory!) TRAINED, we can resist germs that have real pathogenic potential much more easily. It has, for example, been reported and scientifically proven that exposure to other quite harmless coronaviruses causing a 'common cold' can provide protection, albeit short-lived, against Covid-19 and its loyal henchmen (i.e. (i.e. the most infectious variants).

The suppression of natural immunity, especially in younger age groups, can therefore become very problematic. There is no doubt that the lack of exposure due to the stringent containment measures implemented early in the pandemic has not been beneficial in keeping people's innate immune systems well trained.

As if this did not already severely compromise the innate immune defense in this segment of the population, there is another force at play that will dramatically improve morbidity and mortality rates in younger age groups: MASS VACCINATION of THE ELDERLY.

The more the later age group is vaccinated and, therefore, protected, the more the virus is forced to continue causing disease in the younger age groups. This will only be possible if it escapes to S-specific ANTIBODIES which are momentarily elevated in previously asymptomatically infected subjects.

If the virus manages to do this, it may benefit from (momentarily) suppressed innate immunity, causing disease in an increasing number of these individuals and ensuring its own spread. Choosing targeted mutations in the S protein is therefore the way forward for the virus to improve its infectivity in candidates who are prone to obtaining the disease due to a transient weakness of their innate immune defense.

But in the meantime, we also face a huge problem in people who have been vaccinated as they increasingly face infectious variants displaying an S protein type increasingly different from the S edition of the vaccine (the edition later comes from the original strain, which was much less infectious at the start of the pandemic).

The more infectious the variants become (i.e., due to the blocking of virus access to the vaccinated segment of the population), the less the vaccine will protect. Already today, the lack of protection leads to viral shedding and transmission in vaccine recipients who are exposed to these more infectious strains (which, by the way, increasingly dominate the field). This is how we are currently transforming vaccines into asymptomatic carriers that excrete infectious variants.

At some point, in the probably very near future, it will become more profitable (in terms of "breeding return on investment") for the virus to add a few more mutations (maybe just one or two) to the protein. S viral variants (already with multiple infectivity enhancing mutations) in an attempt to further enhance its binding to the receptor (ACE-2) expressed on the surface of permissive epithelial cells. This will now allow the new variant to outperform vaccine ANTIBODIES to bind to the ACE receptor.

That is, at this stage, very few additional targeted mutations in the area of ​​viral receptor binding would be required to fully resist the specific Covid-19 antibodies, whether obtained by the vaccine or by natural infection.

At this point, the virus will, in fact, have succeeded in gaining access to a huge reservoir of subjects who have now become very susceptible to the disease that their specific ANTIBODIES have now become useless in terms of protection, but still manage to ensure suppression. long term of their innate immunity (ie, natural infection, and especially vaccination).

The sensitive reservoir includes both those vaccinated and those who left with enough S-specific ANTIBODIES due to previous covid-19 disease). Thus, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED for Covid-19, but a DISASTROUS SITUATION for all vaccinated subjects and covid-19 seropositive people as they have now lost both, their acquired and innate immune defense against Covid-19 (while the highly infectious strains circulate!).

It is "one small step for the virus, a giant catastrophe for mankind", meaning that we will have whipped the virus in the younger population to a level that it now takes little to do. 'efforts for Covid-19 to transform into a highly infectious virus that completely ignores both the innate arm of our immune system as well as the adaptive / acquired one. The strain for the virus now becomes even more negligible as many vaccine recipients are now exposed to highly infectious viral variants while having received only one vaccine.

Therefore, they are endowed with ANTIBODIES that have not yet acquired optimal functionality. There is no need to explain that it will just further enhance the immune breakout. Basically, very soon we will be faced with a super-infectious virus that is completely resistant to our most valuable defense mechanism: the human immune system.

From all of the above, it becomes increasingly difficult to imagine how the consequences of widespread and mistaken human intervention in this pandemic will not wipe out a large portion of our human population. Very few other strategies could be thought of to achieve the same level of effectiveness in turning a relatively harmless virus into a biological weapon of mass destruction.

It is certainly also worth mentioning that mutations in protein S (i.e. the exact same protein that is subject to selection for breakout mutations) are known to allow coronaviruses to cross species barriers.

That is, the risk of immune drug escape could allow the virus to pass to other animal species, especially industrial livestock (e.g, pig and poultry farms), is not negligible. These species are already known to host several different coronaviruses and are typically housed on farms with high storage density. Similar to the influenza virus situation, these species could serve as an additional reservoir for the COVID-19 virus.

Due to human intervention, the course of this pandemic was completely disrupted from the start. Widespread and rigorous infection prevention measures, combined with mass vaccination campaigns using inadequate vaccines, will undoubtedly lead to a situation where the pandemic becomes increasingly "out of control".

Paradoxically, the only intervention that could offer a perspective to end this pandemic (other than letting it run its disastrous course) is ... vaccination. Of course, the type of vaccines to be used would be completely different from conventional vaccines in that they do not induce the usual suspects i.e. B and T cells, but NK cells.

There is, indeed, convincing scientific evidence that these cells play a key role in facilitating the complete elimination of Covid-19 at an early stage of infection in asymptomatically infected subjects. NK cells are part of the cellular arm of our innate immune system and, as natural ANTIBODIES, they are able to recognize and attack a wide and diverse range of pathogens.

There is a strong scientific rationale for assuming that it is possible to "educate" NK cells to recognize and kill coronaviruses in general (including all their variants) at an early stage of infection. NK cells have increasingly been described as having the ability to acquire immunological memory.

By educating these cells to enable them to recognize and sustainably target cells, our immune system could be perfectly armed for a targeted attack in the coronavirus universe before exposure. As NK cell-based immune defense provides sterilizing immunity and enables broad-spectrum, rapid protection, it is reasonable to assume that harnessing our innate immune cells is going to be the only type of human intervention left to stop the dangerous spread of highly infectious covid-19 variants.

If we humans commit to perpetuating our species, we have no choice but to eradicate these highly infectious viral variants. This will indeed require major vaccination campaigns. However, NK cell-based vaccines will mainly allow our natural immunity to be better prepared (memory!) And induce the body's immunity (which is the exact opposite of what Covid-19 vaccines currently do, as those who increasingly turn vaccine recipients into asymptomatic carriers who shed the virus). So there is not a second left for the gears to be changed and to replace current killer vaccines with life-saving vaccines.

I call on the WHO and all relevant stakeholders, whatever their belief, to immediately declare such measures as THE MOST IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY IN INTERNATIONAL INTEREST.

[Bill Ryan]

Published yesterday, here's a special treat: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche is interviewed by Chris Martenson. Just half an hour, packed with information. Enjoy.
:happy dog:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjMZvpmuaKY

[Tigger]

Published yesterday, here's a special treat: Dr Geert Vanden Bossche is interviewed by Chris Martenson. Just half an hour, packed with information. Enjoy.
:happy dog:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjMZvpmuaKY


I watched this with interest. I used to make vaccines as a young scientist (in 1993-95, under a joint venture with government and Big Pharma). His testimony completely trumps my own experience. Listen to this guy. He knows some pretty important stuff. **Pay attention**

[Maia Gabrial]

Share this video with everyone you know. :gossip:

Everyone who took a vaxx assured themselves that they won't have their innate immune system that could have destroyed all the thousands of variants. It has assured that no antibodies will be left in you to fight them. Your bodies will not be able to mount a defense against this. Carnage like we've never seen before...

Del Bigtree takes Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche's explanation (yesterday, 16 July, 2021) and then he uses a football play-by-play analogy to describe what a normal immune system does and then what happens after the vaxx. Real simple to understand. Real spooky.

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I feel sorry for the millions who already took it. :cry:

(And if you haven't heard already, the fake president Xiden is going to have Big Tech cut into your texts if you even try to go against the narrative. More censorship....:silent:
They're breaking laws left and right and we're not doing anything.) :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

[mojo]

Fortunately there is a good knowledgeable base here that have a good understanding of the vax. Since hearing little information about "shedding," is there some solid evidence and is there a concern about altering the unvaxed?

[Matthew]

Share this video with everyone you know. :gossip:

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Makes the blood clot issue look like a distraction

[Bill Ryan]

Share this video with everyone you know. :gossip:


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Makes the blood clot issue look like a distractionYes. This thing seems to be active in the short term (to some people) and in the long term (to most or all).

1) Rapid, horrific, tragic deaths or injuries to even previously very healthy people (including damage to pregnancy, causing miscarriages or infertility), with knock-on serious safety issues concerning those (e.g.) piloting planes, operating heavy machinery, or even driving cars on the highway. All this is visible right now.

3) Long-term effects which haven't been experienced yet, with the likely collapse of most vaxxed people's immune systems when next challenged by anything at all, even next winter's flu shot — or a nasty strain of covid (which remains a real thing).

My personal opinion right now: (expressed on other threads too)

I don't think anything can stop this. It's like an avalanche which has already started. All one can do is get the heck out of the way and safeguard oneself and one's family and friends (if possible), in a number of different ways, both in terms of preventative health measures (easy to do) and logistical defense against infrastructure damage or collapse, (also easy to do with a little thought and planning).

[Bill Ryan]

Chris Martenson, in his update nearly 24 hours ago, fully supports Dr Geert Vanden Bossche's warning above:

1) Available large-number statistics show that naturally acquired immunity operates in by far the most effective way.

2) Having had the 'vaccine' does not prevent one from showing up with a covid "case"(whether mild or severe).

Chris cites Dr Vanden Bossche's work in his presentation.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFuyMf6mmo

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Chris Martenson, in his update nearly 24 hours ago, fully supports Dr Geert Vanden Bossche's warning above:

1) Available large-number statistics show that naturally acquired immunity operates in by far the most effective way.

2) Having had the 'vaccine' does not prevent one from showing up with a covid "case"(whether mild or severe).

Chris cites Dr Vanden Bossche's work in his presentation.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFuyMf6mmo


Conclusions for episode 015: Current vaccines provide decent protection from hospitalisation and death. Is this to trick youtube's censorship or it this guy sold as well?

[Bill Ryan]

Chris Martenson, in his update nearly 24 hours ago, fully supports Dr Geert Vanden Bossche's warning above:

1) Available large-number statistics show that naturally acquired immunity operates in by far the most effective way.

2) Having had the 'vaccine' does not prevent one from showing up with a covid "case"(whether mild or severe).

Chris cites Dr Vanden Bossche's work in his presentation.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFuyMf6mmo


Conclusions for episode 015: Current vaccines provide decent protection from hospitalisation and death. Is this to trick youtube's censorship or it this guy sold as well?No, he's not sold out. :)

He states at the start of the video that he has to stick carefully to the published data, and that way he's immune (he hopes!) from YouTube censorship. (And that's what he showed that the published data suggests.)

In context, here are all his conclusions. He's also interviewed Dr Pierre Kory and Dr Geert Vanden Bossche at langth, and stated in those videos that much of both interviews was behind his Peak Prosperity paywall or else YouTube would be sure to censor them.

https://projectavalon.net/Chris_Martenson_episode_15_conclusions.gif

[Bill Ryan]

Published on 10 December by Voice For Science And Solidarity:


https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/like-a-virgin-untouched-forever

Like a virgin...untouched forever!

This is a positive message from G. Vanden Bossche to all those who were jabbed but now want their innate immune system to revert to ‘virgin’ status. Now is the time to do it! Why and how?

Omicron will soon dominate the scene. As it is poorly (or not at all) recognized by S(pike)-directed antibodies (Abs) that are either induced by the current C-19 vaccines (containing Wuhan’s S protein) or by short-lived anti-S Abs of low affinity that result from previous asymptomatic/ mild infection with the Delta variant, your valuable innate Abs capable of handling ALL SARS-CoV-2 variants will now be set free! [note 1]
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To qualify for this, you only have to do the following:


Under NO circumstances should you get further shots, and certainly not with an updated (anti-Omicron) C-19 vaccine (see footnote)
Take your health VERY SERIOUSLY (exercise, focus on metabolic health & a nutritious diet, don’t panic and work to minimize stress & anxiety)

Q: Can Omicron still make you ill despite a restored innate immune status?

A: Yes. However, one must realize that for healthy vaccines who don’t continue (updated) booster shots, the probability of contracting severe diseases is likely remote. However, as Omicron is highly infectious, both vaccines and unvaccinated people could easily become re-exposed to Omicron while still sitting on anti-Omicron S Abs of low affinity (as a result of a recent mild/ asymptomatic infection).

This may cause mild to moderate disease in a substantial part of the population, especially in vaccines, as training of their innate Abs had stalled as a result of previous immune suppression by vaccinal anti-Wuhan S Abs. However, I expect this phase to be of short duration as a steep incline in the viral infection rate (due to high level of Omicron’s infectiousness) will likely be followed by a steep decline (due to massive sterilizing immunity provided by a large cohort of asymptomatically/ mildly infected individuals).

In addition, the more people refrain from getting jabbed with an updated anti-Omicron vaccine, the more readily we (Wuhan S-vaccinated and unvaccinated together!) will diminish the infectious pressure in the population and, therefore, mitigate disease symptoms and achieve herd immunity (thanks to sterilizing immunity conferred by a fully functional innate immune system). This will largely prevent healthy individuals from contracting the disease and even protect the most vulnerable who lack full-fledged innate immunity because of underlying conditions.

[note 1]: For those who want to understand how this fits into the evolutionary landscape of a virus that has been put under widespread high immune pressure (due to mass vaccination), please consult:


https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/will-mass-vaccination-against-omicron-give-the-final-blow (https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/will-mass-vaccination-against-omicron-give-the-final-blow)
https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/omicron-the-calm-before-the-tsunami (https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/omicron-the-calm-before-the-tsunami)

[ExomatrixTV]

Second call to WHO: Please, don't vaccinate against Omicron:

https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/Y/I/l/V/YIlVc.gaa.mp4


source (https://rumble.com/vrca0i-second-call-to-who-please-dont-vaccinate-against-omicron..html)


Transcription:

Dear colleagues at the WHO, I think the time has come to admit that the mass vaccination program that you have been proposing in an attempt to put an end to the COVID-19 pandemic has been a complete failure. At the beginning of this year, I've been urging you to open a scientific debate on the potential risks of mass vaccination with these vaccines - in the midst of a pandemic. I've never received a response to that request. But shortly thereafter one of the most renowned vaccinologists on this planet wrote me an email saying; ‘vaccinating with these vaccines would only breed new variants. But that it wouldn’t make sense for me to go against the mainstream because nobody would listen to me anyway, and hopefully that second-generation vaccines would solve the problem.’

So, I wanted to let you know that it is not because you are the WHO, that you can afford to ignore the opinion of people who have long-standing expertise - in all of the different disciplines involved in this pandemic: virology, immunology, vaccinology, evolutionary biology, epidemiology, zoonoses, etc. Whereas, some of us have been predicting that mass vaccination with these vaccines in the midst of a pandemic would inevitably lead to the expansion of more infectious variants, your leading scientists have been preaching the simplistic mantra that the more we vaccinate the less the virus will replicate, and the lower the likelihood that new variants will emerge. Now, the consequences of these simplistic and erroneous viewpoints is that today we are dealing with dominant circulation of Omicron, the most infectious SARS-CoV-2 variant that we have seen so far, and probably the most infectious virus that we have seen so far.

So, given the fact that we are now dealing with a number of variants that are circulating and a multitude, of course, of sub-variants, and that infection rates are going through the roof, and that also we are already most likely having a number of animal populations that are serving as a reservoir for the virus, the likelihood that viral variants are now recombining and building reassortments within one and the same host is becoming increasingly likely. So, what that means is that it will become increasingly difficult to trace the origin of new variants, and that it will be even more challenging to predict the characteristics of those new variants in terms of infectiousness, in terms of virulence, pathogenicity, and also in terms of resistance to vaccinal antibodies or to vaccines in general.

But what is very clear is that if those new variants are to survive on a background of high population-level immune pressure, then those variants will need to be more infectious – like, for example, the Omicron variant. The Omicron variant, however, is offering a very nice opportunity, because Omicron has acquired a substantial level of resistance to the vaccinal antibodies, and that means that the vaccinal antibodies are less likely to outcompete the innate antibodies, which is very good news, because we know that innate antibodies can protect against SARS-CoV-2. This has been repeatedly reported in the literature. We also know that innate antibodies can be trained, and therefore they can even improve their recognition and protection against the virus. Innate antibodies can be trained just like other innate immune effectors can be trained, by repeated exposure to what we call pathogen-associated molecular patterns. This is, in fact, nicely shown by the data published by the UK Health Security Agency, previously Public Health England - where they have shown that basically with aging and also with more exposure to the pathogen, the number of cases in the unvaccinated people was dramatically reduced, and even to an extent such that vaccine efficacy, or we should say, in the population, vaccine effectiveness, would become negative. There is also increased evidence, or increasing evidence, that training of innate antibodies as a result of natural infection can enhance the abrogation of the infection, and that training of adaptive immunity – particularly the induction of T-cell memory, also as a result of natural infection – can enhance the abrogation of disease.

Thanks to the increased resistance of Omicron to vaccinal antibodies, the innate antibodies are set free and can now enable the vaccinees to eliminate the virus, to control viral transmission, and to lead to a dramatic decrease in the viral infection rate, just like healthy unvaccinated people are doing. So, in other words, the resistance to Omicron means, in fact, that we are freeing up a huge capacity of sterilizing immunity in vaccinees because the vaccinees are, in fact, regaining full functionality of their innate immune antibodies. That, of course, will lead to herd immunity because herd immunity requires that you induce a type of immunity that can sterilize the virus, that can dramatically diminish transmission. This would also mean: by freeing up this huge capacity of sterilizing immunity in the vaccinees – after certainly a very important incline of infectious cases – we would have a rapid decline of this wave. And we would also have a rapid decline of disease cases, and even more importantly and more dramatically, of severe disease. Now we know with (moderate) disease, when you recover from disease, you develop acquired immunity, which is long-lived and will protect you. And the few cases of severe disease, we have, of course, to treat – that is what we’ve always said.

It is important to realize that, in fact, Omicron is more or less serving, indeed, as a live attenuated vaccine, and that this is a unique opportunity. The fact that we free up the sterilizing capacity in the vaccinees, thanks to the increased level of resistance of Omicron to the vaccinal antibodies – those are no longer capable of outcompeting the innate antibodies – we may have a unique opportunity to achieve herd immunity, or to start building herd immunity. And so, it is very, very important that we leave people alone, and that we leave the children alone, and that we let the virus spread. And so, we shouldn't have any vaccination against this Omicron variant, and we shouldn't have lockdowns.

If we are now going to vaccinate against Omicron, we are going to take away this window of opportunity for the population to generate herd immunity, thanks to freeing up our innate antibodies. And what we are going to do is in fact we would build against antibodies, against the spike protein of Omicron, and particularly against the receptor-binding domain of this Omicron spike protein.

We know that this receptor-binding domain has already undergone a number, or several, important mutations. So, if we put again full pressure on this domain, there is a high likelihood that we are now going to promote variants that will be able to use a receptor that is different from ACE-2 to enter into the cell. And we know that SARS-CoV-2 can do that because it has already been described that SARS-CoV-2 can use receptors other than ACE-2 to enter into the cell. But so far this way of entering - this alternative way of entry into the cell - has not been the preferred way for the virus for entering the cells. But it would only take probably one or two mutations for the virus to make these alternative receptors the preferred receptors for viral entry.

By doing mass vaccination against Omicron, we may be putting enough immune pressure on viral infectiousness to give variants that are capable of entering into the cell through an alternative receptor - to give them a competitive advantage, and so, to provide them with a fitness advantage so that they can now become dominant in the population. What this means is pretty catastrophic, because this would mean that basically we end up with a situation where we have antibodies that still strongly bind to the virus, to the receptor binding domain, but that can no longer neutralize the virus because the virus is now using another domain to enter into the cell, a domain which is different from the domain that is blocked by the antibodies.

Such a situation is in fact, a textbook example, for how you provoke antibody-dependent enhancement of the disease. So, this would mean that such a situation, the virus covered with strongly binding antibodies but not being able to neutralize the virus, would basically lead, or would be similar, to a situation where the virus has acquired a higher level of virulence. This would be - this situation would really, really, really be at risk of provoking the kind of disastrous consequences that I have been warning against at the beginning of this year. And we know that industry is already gearing up for mass vaccination against Omicron. And, as this, according to my humble opinion, could potentially be - with a high likelihood - a real disaster. We must prevent such a thing from happening.

So in order to - or I would say unless - unless immediate action is taken to prevent this, it is clear that decision-makers in your organization, the WHO, will be held responsible, accountable, and liable for the dramatic consequences that this biological experiment on human beings could possibly entail. So I hope that this time you will take my warning very seriously into consideration.

Thank you.


source (https://rumble.com/vrca0i-second-call-to-who-please-dont-vaccinate-against-omicron..html)

Geert Vanden Bossche

Geert Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. He held adjunct faculty appointments at universities in Belgium and Germany. After his career in Academia, Geert joined several vaccine companies (GSK Biologicals, Novartis Vaccines, Solvay Biologicals) to serve various roles in vaccine R&D as well as in late vaccine development.

Geert then moved on to join the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Health Discovery team in Seattle (USA) as Senior Program Officer; he then worked with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) in Geneva as Senior Ebola Program Manager. At GAVI he tracked efforts to develop an Ebola vaccine. He also represented GAVI in fora with other partners, including WHO, to review progress on the fight against Ebola and to build plans for global pandemic preparedness.

Back in 2015, Geert scrutinized and questioned the safety of the Ebola vaccine that was used in ring vaccination trials conducted by WHO in Guinea. His critical scientific analysis and report on the data published by WHO in the Lancet in 2015 was sent to all international health and regulatory authorities involved in the Ebola vaccination program. After working for GAVI, Geert joined the German Center for Infection Research in Cologne as Head of the Vaccine Development Office. He is at present primarily serving as a Biotech / Vaccine consultant while also conducting his own research on Natural Killer cell-based vaccines.

Email: info@voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org‍ (https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/#)


TWITTER (https://twitter.com/GVDBossche)
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[Bill Ryan]

Copying this post by Tintin (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?119042-The-Covid-Vaccines-The-Biggest-Crime-Ever-Committed-on-Humanity&p=1647960&viewfull=1#post1647960) on The Covid Vaccines: "The Biggest Crime Ever Committed on Humanity" thread:

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This is brilliant from Geert Vanden Bossche (https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/dynamics-of-sars-cov-2-in-highly-c-19-vaccinated-populations-in-a-nutshell). Really neat and easy to grasp :thumbsup:


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