View Full Version : WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
jaybee
7th June 2022, 21:31
Sure enough, here's The Duran. Alexander Mercouris even offered his opinion that Johnson may resign within a couple of weeks (but if so, of course we'll soon know).
Those who are fiercely critical of Johnson (as am I, though I'm firmly pro-Brexit, a different issue) may find themselves smiling, even a little grimly, at all this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSwOK8jT8Jo
That was good... although, IMO, I think both of them are failing to connect Johnson's political behavior to the Globalists... at the end of the summary ...what for... what for... they asked - why did he squander everything... etc etc...
Well he did it for his pals the Globalist 'Elite'... the NWO, WEF, WHO et al etc... they wanted to bring about regime change, weaken Russia and force/coerce them into the Globalist Fold - still do and Johnson took a lead roll - got the whole of the House of Commons clapping like seals in excitement and support of Ukraine - got vast numbers of the British virtue signaling their support for Ukraine and ramped up the hatred of Putin + Russia to ridiculous levels - the Ukraine flag flies all over the place the pro Ukraine, anti Russia propaganda is everywhere - Johnson thought he was leading the winning team and playing his part for the Globalists, Great Reset and whatnot..
Johnson personally appears to have stopped Zelensky entering any peace deal and has actively prolonged the 'war'... he didn't do any of that for post Brexit Britain - he did it for the Globalist Cause...
It's no mystery - but in saying that it was an excellent Summary - it just, IMO, missed the deeper motivations that link Johnson to the Globalists.... he wasn't free to oppose the attempt at regime change in Russia and all that has gone with it - he is tied to his Globalist Chums too securely to be able to oppose them...
he enjoyed himself for a while there but now has to calm down... his replacement could be worse though - gawd knows who will take his place - I have said before that I think the Globalist Gang would prefer a totally compliant and obedient Labour Party to be at the helm...
jaybee
7th June 2022, 21:37
Those who are fiercely critical of Johnson may find themselves smiling, even a little grimly, at all this.
I wasn't grim, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
However I wonder if Alexander Mercouris doesn't voice all that is on his mind or his mind just doesn't go there. He said 'there must be a point where Boris says to himself "Oh Boris, what have you done?" '
What about Boris was just doing what he was told to?
:) - while I was typing away you put it very concisely with the bolded... :thumbsup:
Matthew
7th June 2022, 21:51
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Michel Leclerc
7th June 2022, 21:56
Peripherally related to Ukraine vs Russia, it's worth noting here that UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, a diehard Zelensky supporter arguably personally responsible for Zelensky's refusal to negotiate with Russia to save his country and tens of thousands of his soldiers' lives, has just won a British Conservative Party No Confidence vote.
But only by 59%. The numbers were 211-148. It was worse for him than even his critics had predicted.
Politically, that means he's dead in the water and will only last a few more months — especially as the UK economy implodes and Russia crushes Ukraine militarily, making angry and fearful British voters wonder what all this was about and why.
Expect interesting and lively commentary about this tomorrow from The Duran and Alexander Mercouris in particular.Sure enough, here's The Duran. Alexander Mercouris even offered his opinion that Johnson may resign within a couple of weeks (but if so, of course we'll soon know).
Those who are fiercely critical of Johnson (as am I, though I'm firmly pro-Brexit, a different issue) may find themselves smiling, even a little grimly, at all this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSwOK8jT8Jo
Well Bill, right from the start, critical “intellectuals” among my friends interpreted the Brexit craze as a manoeuvre to torpedo the entire European project, which (just to identify two pivotal players: Kojève and De Gaulle) was meant as a tool for re-gaining some form of independence from the American hegemon. As De Gaulle had feared, the membership of a nation having a "special relationship" with the U.S. would evolve into a sabotaging element. The pro-Brexiteers had all kinds of good reasons to plead some form of "independence" from "Brussels" but chose to ignore its geopolitical underpinnings and aims. Now we have the situation described by Alex and Alexander and even they are still throwing their arms in the air asking "How is it possible?", while the Russian leaders and Erdoǧan are quite clear about the hegemon’s intention to apply a scorched earth policy to Europe: the best way of making it impossible for a Eurasian Europe (a pacified, denatofied one as Putin proposes) to come about is to turn it entirely into a to-be-sacrificed continent (instead of just a country as Ukraine) that will bring nothing to a victorious Russia. And in order to do that, it was important for Anglo-Saxonia to first make it impossible for Britain to be still contributing something constructive to Europe. Well, they will eat their sprat pie now, at least if they can still fish a few sprats.
Lesson: it is not the politicians’ fault. It is our fault, because we have elected them, and moreover because we have not replaced our elections systems by better and more resilient ones.
Matthew
7th June 2022, 22:17
That's a very romantic view of the European Union. I bet the worms got to all the institutions and politicians
Ravenlocke
8th June 2022, 13:47
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Ravenlocke
8th June 2022, 13:56
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Ravenlocke
8th June 2022, 14:04
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Ravenlocke
8th June 2022, 14:14
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Ravenlocke
8th June 2022, 14:25
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Ravenlocke
8th June 2022, 14:30
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Ravenlocke
8th June 2022, 14:38
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Ravenlocke
8th June 2022, 14:45
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ExomatrixTV
8th June 2022, 15:05
'Ukraine Must Be A Battering Ram For The Next Step In The Great (Dystopian) Reset (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset)'
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday (https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/russia-claims-west-does-not-allow-ukraine-to-conduct-negotiations-with-russia/2605902) that Western Ukraine should not enter into negotiations with Russia. Lavrov accused the West, led by Britain and the United States, of using Ukraine as a tool to rein in and exhaust Russia.
The first sentence is unclear, isn’t it John? It should be more something like “(...) that the West forbids Ukraine to enter (...)”
it was a (google?) translation from Dutch to English done on the site!
Mashika
9th June 2022, 02:09
This may seem like nothing, but it actually says a lot about how much these people doing the propaganda care for Ukraine
"Sievierodonetsk"
Looks like they missed the last e in netsk' lol
At least is not "Syevyerodonyetsk" for a total perversion :P
"Donyetsk, Loogahnsk, Maryoohpol and Novarroseayah"
If you are interested or your job is to look at a certain situation in some other country, aren't you supposed to at least read something about the place? And maybe then, with you great grade school extreme reading techniques differentiate between "Sievierodonetsk" and "Severodonetsk" and say "wait, this is not right... On the map i saw before it is not written like that, isn't this how it sounds, and not how it is written?
Or maybe these channels are all picking this up from material distributed to them by a 'higher' authority? Or these "Professional journalists are really illiterate, mediocre amateurs"?
Things to poison the mind... :thumbsdown:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUJaB8I-f8ifnHCk9f7AInFOl2f1mgIMfiFSgN13v0q6HOdOz4MTAzbYa5mheruZV9rR25CkBirHnRuA3iap872n54N9WSqFLaXoTRpo25CX DOxVdsbuaBzyW5So12_foWElNPwwY7vY8-d1WyekKID=w1069-h783-no?authuser=0
Mashika
9th June 2022, 02:59
According to the US government, specialists, media and even bottom feeders, Russia rules the world! This is the logic:
1. US goes to invade and completely obliterate other countries, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.. Not much happens across the world, people keep going as normal
2. Israel does its thing in Palestine.. Nothing happens across the world
3. Us/NATO and Yugoslavia thing, mass murder and plenty of shamelessness around it. Nothing happens around the world
Jump to 2022: Russia Vs Ukraine: Global famine, high gas prices in the US, it's all Putin's Price Hike Fault! The world is ending! Russia and Putin!!!!
So, a little thing Russia does, and the world is ending? Therefore it follows that Russia is the most important and powerful country in the world, as nothing the US has done, regardless of the millions and millions of death people across the world, had any effect. Yet a single small war in which very few people have died, compared to US/NATO operations, immediately is world changing event
Thanks USA, for finally coming forward and admitting that you were not the true leader of the world, and were just a poser all along :)
We knew all along, but it's nice for you to finally grow up and admit it :p:muscle::ROFL:
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By the way did you see the news? Ukraine basically said "If we don't get what we want, no food will go out of Ukraine to the world" and then they burned thousands of tons of wheat and rice, just so those can't be sent to other countries by Russia.
That's the reality of it all
Mashika
9th June 2022, 03:09
Imagine this in your country/state/neighborhood
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Mashika
9th June 2022, 03:23
This is a sad video, see that Ukrainian soldier at the lead? He will die there and no one will bother to go check on him
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It reminds me of a story someone told me long ago, a paramedic was once talking to me and said:
"We were back into base and then upfront we saw a truck on the side of the road, it was hit. So we got down and ran to see if someone was in there, and there were two guys, one was a young kid, probably 15 or so, the other was one older guy probably in his 40s, the older guy had a big hole in his chest and was bleeding badly, the younger guy had been hit on his left side at around his waist and on his head but was otherwise alright, he had a good pulse and was not bleeding much, so we worked on the younger guy as the older one died just next to us, but we could not do anything about it, he just stared at us as he was dying and we were saving the kid"
That's just how it is, and that's how we see the same on this video, the lead guy got hit, goes down and then in the end they go and save the one they can save, the other ones will die there. And i can bet you that the lead guy did not just die in a second, he got hit and went down but he still was probably alive at the time they were saving the other guy we see moving at the end
It's just he could not move, but he was still able to hear/see/feel, and it's a terrible place to be in your last moments
And that's war, at the very core, for a foot soldier
shaberon
9th June 2022, 03:55
If you are interested or your job is to look at a certain situation in some other country, aren't you supposed to at least read something about the place? And maybe then, with you great grade school extreme reading techniques differentiate between "Sievierodonetsk" and "Severodonetsk" and say "wait, this is not right... On the map i saw before it is not written like that, isn't this how it sounds, and not how it is written?
This is an honest assessment.
Russian is really hard!
So far, I can learn Japanese, Germanic, and Indic languages when they are written out in Roman script.
I am not talking about the language as whole, but just the basic ability to read what is written.
We would probably have to learn Cyrillic script!
For example, I tried to go along with Arkona playing Zimushka (Winter), a cover song of an ancient Siberian native song, which is one of the most depressing sounds ever recorded. If you don't want to kill yourself, yet, after this, you will. It is just about ordinary life and a woman kills her husband and then goes to court and then maybe she is dreaming that she goes home to him. Something like that. I don't know exactly what it means, but, when I read what they gave us in Roman script, I believe I would have a really hard time trying to learn pronunciation that way.
Don't get me wrong--I think English is an extremely twisted and difficult language. You can't learn how to pronounce it just by reading Roman script either. Too many exceptions to the rules, too many combined languages from Danish to Turkish.
I am guessing that if we could really read the Cyrillic, that, Russian pronunciation might be easy, but otherwise--it is using sounds that I cannot identify throughout Europe or Asia. Sounds like nothing. This is more or less an a capella song and so I thought it might be easy to pick up, and now I am not sure if there is something harder. Zimushka and lyrics:
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Zimushka-Zima
Zima morozliva
Oh, ne morozi-ka Zima
Da-li dobra molodca
Ne moroz' Zima
Da dobra molodca
Oj, kak s muzhom i-to zhona
Da-li ne v ladu zhila
Kak s muzhom zhona
Da ne v ladu zhila
Oh, ne v ladu ona zhila
Da-li muzha izvela
Ne v ladu zhila
Da muzha izvela
Oh, izvela ona muzha
Da-li v zelen sad svela
Izvela muzha
Da v zelen sad svela
Oh, v zelenom, da vo sadu
Muzha, da povesila
Povesila muzha
Sama domoj poshla
Oj, ko dvoru ona prishla
Da-li na skam'ju sela
Ko dvoru prishla
Da na skam'ju sela
Oj, na skam'ju ona sela
Da-li gor'ko zaplakala
Na skam'ju sela
Gor'ko zaplakala
Oj, proklinala svoju zhizn'
Da-li vse za muzhem zhit'
Proklinala zhizn'
Da vse za muzhem zhit'
Oj, kak s muzhom i-to zhona
Da li v dome gospozha
Kak s muzhom zhena
Da v dome gospozha
Oh, bez muzha-li to zhona
Da-li gor'ka-sirota
Pojdu v zelen sad
Da stanu muzha zvat'
Oh, muzh ty, muzhe ty moj muzh
Da-li ty golubchik moj
Uzh-ty muzh moj muzh
Da, ty golubchik moj
Oh, ty golubchik moj
Da-li my pojdem domoj
Alaskan Inuits are ancient enemies of Siberians. If we served this:
https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/614655/files/22839939/156x230x2/haida-thunderbird-by-clarence-mills-card.jpg
...I could believe we were fighting Siberia. But most of that snow is yellow or gone. Siberians sound like they are having a hard time. I don't want to fight over a land bridge that isn't there anymore.
We bought Alaska from our Russian friends in 1867, so that it would not go into the hands of the notorious British. And now?
Life, for many people, is still not much different from that song.
Land in Siberia is practically free.
When I go back over our heritage, the English government has been a thorn in our side since around the 1300s. Or, that is approximately how long my ancestors have been killing the English. I don't have a new enemy!
Back in the days of the Witan Council and so on, England probably was pretty decent. Whatever they did against Rome is probably something that should go in an episode of Masterpiece Theater. Once it was big enough to grind against its neighbors and start making a "UK", everything has gone to Hell.
That is what the fools get by thinking you can wash away the devil by building a few churches. Ha!
We are doing everything we can to pledge unborn grandchildren into debt based wage slavery.
I don't know how to write or pronounce Russian properly, in a script that does not belong to it. It seems to me that our modern English language lacks any context of ever being on the right side, is almost false, as a subject.
Mashika
9th June 2022, 04:26
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUA_XEtWAAAVv96?format=png&name=small
"“We cannot stand by while Russian long-range artillery flattens cities and kills innocent civilians,” Johnson said."
Said the deranged baboon as Ukraine's military did the exact same thing to civilians, but for real, instead of in Narnia territory where this demented person lives
Spiral
9th June 2022, 09:30
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Ravenlocke
9th June 2022, 21:38
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1535007161079717903
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Ravenlocke
9th June 2022, 21:43
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Mashika
9th June 2022, 23:56
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It's a hard one thing to do, if they contact Pushilin, then it immediately follows that they are recognizing him as the legal head of Donetsk, which means they accept that Donetsk is not Ukrainian territory anymore :)
Sorry for those guys, but they will be thrown under the bus for 'the greater lie'
Mashika
10th June 2022, 03:33
Does look like a lot of people who are exposing the truth are getting 'cancelled' or otherwise removed from public view in the west, along with all means to get monetized
"I GOT BANNED! & Aiden Aslin Sentenced TO DEATH For Ukraine Mercenarism"
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Mashika
10th June 2022, 04:31
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NOTE: I am NOT Donbass Devushka, and if you know who is behind that channel please don't disclose it, it may put their lives in danger. Please be mindful of that, no game or joke
Brigantia
10th June 2022, 08:48
Thomas Sheridan has posted an article about how the globalist Western leaders have shot themselves in the foot; full article here (https://thomassheridan.substack.com/p/the-globalists-have-suicided-the?s=w).
The Globalists Have Suicided the West and Themselves as Russia Becomes a Superpower Once Again
When you place psychotics and mediocre tyrants in charge of every single institution; from Bureaucracy, to the Tech Industry, to Academia and Energy Management you gift a victory to Putin.
The post below was originally published to Facebook were it soon went viral. I am reposting it here so it can reach as wide an audience as possible, and also so people can prepare for the transformation from demented Globalism and back to a functional Western economy—with national interests at heart—once again. All the Globalist’s agendas have gone up in smoke in any practical sense. The Great Reset, Agenda 21 etc., all gone now because of Putin’s Ukraine checkmate and the Globalist’s own stupidity. The recent World Economic Forum event at Davos was a no show as far as the G7 was concerned. As the insane and utterly ludicrous Klaus Schwab has become a poisoned chalice now, thanks to his 'young leaders' such as Trudeau seizing the truckers bank accounts and other mediocre tyrants such as Arden and Andrews losing their minds during the Covid event. The WEF also have TERRIBLE PR people who think their most crackpot ideas and individuals are appealing to sane people.
Bilderberg was the only game in town last week and they all looked suicidal and depressed. The Great Reset, Agenda 21, the works, are all in disarray. As their 'brief window of opportunity' was slammed shut by Putin invading Ukraine and winning a decisive military engagement.
LATE 2022 AND BEYOND
Things are going to get rough for a year or so. There will almost certainly be major inflationary increases and social disorder leading to varying levels of collapse in many countries.
There is simply not enough food to feed the world right now and not enough energy to power the West. The high standards of living of the last three decades are going to end.
While there will be a lot less options available to us, and our disposable income will be badly curtailed, bear in mind that many positives will come out of this too. Decadent fads such as Woke and the Green Agenda will vanish. The IT industry and Social Media will lose much of current psychological and cultural hold upon society. People will be more concerned with food and warmth than gender pronouns and the 'current thing'. Both the Bilderbergs and the WEF last week was a sea of disappointed faces. Their entire Great Resets and everything else they have worked towards has been wrecked by Putin.
It'll be rough, but also has the potential to be the making of us in the tribes who are ahead of the game in understanding the mass media are lying about everything. As we all develop our own survival and eventual restoration plans. It also won't last long, as the globalists will have to forget their techno utopia. Think Bread and Butter being more important in the world than Tweets and Likes.
To many 2023 will seem like the end of the world. To us in the tribes it is when we put what we learned about ourselves since April 2020 into action. In the meantime art and creativity will still flourish. Think kids riding bikes to school again. Bringing a flask and lunch box to work. Not so bad is it.
Mashika
10th June 2022, 10:51
NATO thumpers will hate this secret!
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Bill Ryan
10th June 2022, 19:48
This post is for aerospace geeks only. :P
There are credible reports that the Fifth Generation Sukhoi Su-57 has been flying missions over Ukraine. Western sources have been hasty to downplay the aircraft and scoff. But it's seriously impressive, with full stealth capability, super-maneuverability (look at the aerial cartwheels this thing can do), takes off and lands in a really short length of runway, and can fly both faster and higher than its US counterpart, the F-22.
It's a strong candidate for the most advanced fighter jet in the world. (And it's gorgeous to look at. :heart: ) Here's a fun short video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST6EvvdqVEA
It's the successor to the Sukhoi Su-35, which isn't as stealthy, and not quite a Fifth Generation plane, but which is so ridiculously maneuverable it can almost do the Polka in mid-air. :) Enjoy this as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76NhnEky34s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76NhnEky34s
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Ravenlocke
10th June 2022, 20:22
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Ravenlocke
10th June 2022, 20:33
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Michel Leclerc
10th June 2022, 20:39
'Ukraine Must Be A Battering Ram For The Next Step In The Great (Dystopian) Reset (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset)'
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Saturday (https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukraine-war/russia-claims-west-does-not-allow-ukraine-to-conduct-negotiations-with-russia/2605902) that Western Ukraine should not enter into negotiations with Russia. Lavrov accused the West, led by Britain and the United States, of using Ukraine as a tool to rein in and exhaust Russia.
The first sentence is unclear, isn’t it John? It should be more something like “(...) that the West forbids Ukraine to enter (...)”
it was a (google?) translation from Dutch to English done on the site!
Thank you John, but I am still not getting it.
This is a quote from a description of what Lavrov “said on Saturday” (the link which you highlighted in blue) (I underline): “Lavrov accused the West, led by the UK and the US, of turning Ukraine into an instrument of restraining and exhausting Russia. / He said in an interview with the public broadcaster of the Republika Srpska, RTRS, that the West forbade Ukraine to continue negotiations with Russia which had accepted Ukrainian proposals two months ago as a basis for developing a resolution.”
This is what makes me think that your "first sentence is unclear".
The matter is serious enough to clarify. Did he or did he not speak about "Western Ukraine"?
Maybe you could quote the Dutch (which is readable by at least some of the members) (and for the sake of the non-Dutch-speakers, provide your own English translation)?
Thank you for the trouble.
Bill Ryan
10th June 2022, 21:11
Straight from the snake's horse's mouth: :)
Fact Sheet on WMD Threat Reduction Efforts with Ukraine, Russia and Other Former Soviet Union Countries
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3057517/fact-sheet-on-wmd-threat-reduction-efforts-with-ukraine-russia-and-other-former
The takeaway? There were 46 (forty-six) biolabs in Ukraine.
Bill Ryan
10th June 2022, 21:20
Gonzalo Lira, in a new 8 minute video, argues that the Russians are most certainly going to take Odessa... and they'd not attack it from the sea, but merely cut it off to the north like a medieval siege, and then just sit back and wait a few weeks or months. I do agree with his logic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHF1YMA3Zus
Gonzalo, many times in both this video and others, says: "The Russians are not stupid."
What very few have commented on, the exception that I know of being Andrei Martyanov, is that the Russian military generals use sophisticated mathematics to wargame their campaign. (And even the field commanders understand the math, as well.)
The analogy is rather like someone who's a chess grandmaster, playing an inferior opponent, consulting a chess computer to check he's doing all the right things anyway. The poor opponent wouldn't stand a chance. And many reading this will know that the Russians are almost overwhelmingly the world's finest chess players, in any era.
Moreover, in a chess tournament, there are no extra points for defeating another player quickly. That doesn't matter at all. One either wins, or not.
But a defeated opponent, if they have any ability, integrity or class, would resign long before the inevitable checkmate, once it could be seen by everyone that it was surely coming.
(An old chess teacher of mine told me something I've never forgotten: that it's a sign of weakness to just hope that your opponent will make a silly mistake. Good players almost never do.)
This is of course one reason why the Russian forces retreat sometimes. The math would logically predict that this was simply the optimum thing to do.
Any chess players reading this know that it's a highly strategic game in which control of the "battlefield" of the board is the main thing, and to accomplish that one rearranges one's pieces in all kinds of ways, sometimes including moving them apparently in full withdrawal from all-out attack.
One doesn't win anything at all in life by relentlessly moving forwards 24/7 with no way to ever think differently.
Michel Leclerc
10th June 2022, 21:40
If you are interested or your job is to look at a certain situation in some other country, aren't you supposed to at least read something about the place? And maybe then, with you great grade school extreme reading techniques differentiate between "Sievierodonetsk" and "Severodonetsk" and say "wait, this is not right... On the map i saw before it is not written like that, isn't this how it sounds, and not how it is written?
This is an honest assessment.
Russian is really hard!
So far, I can learn Japanese, Germanic, and Indic languages when they are written out in Roman script.
(...)
The fact that English is not written at all like it is pronounced but just manages to impose its convoluted writing system on the entire world due to the hegemonic status of Anglo-Saxonia does not exonerate you, dear Shaberon, from trying to learn other scripts. Or does the fact that you belong to the Imperial culture just entitle you to laziness and to the disingenuous self-commiseration I am still encountering here in Southern France with English-speakers who have been here for twenty years: "Oh, luhh Fwaonsayh ehh twehh difficeel“? I read it on this site "if only everybody spoke English, there would not be divisiveness because of language and culture" — what a shallow, "uninformed" (not to use more scathing words) judgment! It is because the Anglo-Saxonians have not left one opportunity unavailed of to keep talking English uncouthly breaking through the French, or the Italian, or the Spanish, or the German, or the Dutch, or the Polish, or the Greek, or the Russian, of their hosts — that they have "divided and ruled" in the first place.
There will not be any peace in the world unless no culture any longer enforces its linguistic mannerisms called "a language" on the others. The unilingualism English-speakers want to impose on the world is in itself a form of transhumanism. Linguistics and philosophy of language teach us that meaning, though independent from language, is conditioned by language. Imposing a language on your partner in communication is basically a form of eradicating his or her culture, and hence, through culturicide, of ultimate physical elimination.
So do learn other scripts. As a specialist of Buddhism, I guess you have learnt the major Devanagari derived scripts? As well as the Tibetan script, also Devanagari derived, but quite tricky as to the differences between writing and pronouncing, or have you?
If people want to know "something" at least about other cultures, let them learn the language : it is the proof in the eating of their interest’s or love’s pudding; if they won’t, it is because they are either too dumb, or too un-empathic, or both. That is what all those non-natively English speakers think about the natives of exceptionalist Anglosaxonialist Imperialism.
So let us stop complaining about Cyrillic – it is not difficult at all, at least not more than Greek, Arabic, Hebrew or Devanagari, or Japanese hiragana.
"Why would I? Everybody speaks English.” One: that is an illusion. And two: do you really wish to continue walking rough-shod on living people’s ears and lips?
Learning a "difficult" language (as they all are for the Anglo-Saxonians) will make you grow – in your thinking capacity as well as in your empathic reach.
Shaberon, this is not a rant. Hopefully it awakens a little bit the world of Anglo-Saxonial exceptionalism. “Love your enemies” by identifying with them to the point of embracing their language. If one studies seriously the extent to which the syntax of e.g. Korean, or Japanese, or Hindi, differs from the syntax of English, one may start to understand how their capacity to bridge the difference they live when learning English, has steeled their minds to the point of bypassing the literacy and numeracy of the average English-speaker.
Only multilingual people will inherit the world – because they have learnt how to manoeuvre meaning into the moulds of different languages and to sing their love in different languages. The unilinguals among us will be “deplored”, to quote Ms Clinton.
Mashika
10th June 2022, 22:40
Meanwhile in Mikolaev, a great, significant and symbolic price peacefully awaits to get picked up :P
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Ukrayina_at_Shipyard_imeni_61_Kommunara_Ingul_River_Nikolayev_7_December_2013.jpg
No doubt the Ukros will destroy it out of spite, when on the way out
I can see it named "The Novorosiya" in the near future :P Or maybe "The Donbass" :bigsmile::heart2: It will make for a great victory symbol for sure. It's going to hurt when it sails again, and becomes the flagship of Donbass or Novorosiya
That ship is/was mostly fully functional, it's only that Ukraine is incompetent and could not get it running again, but nothing a year or so of good work can't fix i think
ETA: In case you did not heard about it before, this is the sister ship of the Moscow flagship that sink recently in the war. This is exactly the same ship, it was built in a pair. this and the Moscow are/were just the exact same ships. But this one was gifted to Ukraine by Russia some time in the early/mid 90s, then they did nothing with it and it's just rotting there. So it will probably be taken back and rebuilt as a symbol for Donbass
It's a strong candidate for the most advanced fighter jet in the world. (And it's gorgeous to look at. :heart: )
Impressive as it is it still can be beaten by skill and an equally good looking aircraft the F-14 Tomcat.
Take for example the classified but leaked event in which a captured F-14 Tomcat piloted by a US Navy pilot call sign " Maverick " was able to shoot down two Su-57's.
The morale of the story is good looks and experience can win the day. Back to topic.
Please see the link at 1 hour 45 minutes. Link: https://www.actvid.com/watch-movie/watch-top-gun-maverick-full-5448.8336620
Mashika
11th June 2022, 00:52
It's a strong candidate for the most advanced fighter jet in the world. (And it's gorgeous to look at. :heart: )
Impressive as it is it still can be beaten by skill and an equally good looking aircraft the F-14 Tomcat.
Take for example the classified but leaked event in which the US Navy after bombing successfully a rogue nations nuclear processing plant, I can confirm that " Maverick " was able to shoot down two Su-57's whilst flying a stolen F-14 Tomcat, nothing beats experience.
The morale of the story is good looks and experience can win the day. Back to topic.
Please see the link at 1 hour 45 minutes. Link: https://www.actvid.com/watch-movie/watch-top-gun-maverick-full-5448.8336620
"lmao":clapping::silent::bigsmile::p:raining:
The F-14 plane is indeed one of the most beautiful planes ever made. The F-35 looks like an ugly fat cow compared to the F-14 lol, or more like a Hippopotamus, while the F-14 is like a hawk or similar. Just like the F-15, which is also beautiful and is not named Eagle out of nowhere, it owns the name very rightly
But no, sorry but no. Suhoi planes are on a category of their own :P
:muscle:
When comparing American planes against Russian ones, you should pick Migs for the comparison, those are more equal :coffee:;)
Mashika
11th June 2022, 02:18
There's a channel i would like to share, these videos are not in English or with subtitles, but i don't think those are needed for what the channel mostly displays. These are people receiving help in the Mariupol and close locations, these people are not in good health really, but you don't see it much other than seeing how skinny the kids usually are, and how much they are glad to receive at least some stuff, because they can't afford *anything* anymore, there are no jobs, no markets, no help from the government, nothing at all since long ago. And you can't truly survive or grow up eating carrots and potatoes all your life, that's just temporary stuff to keep you going. Elensky is the kind of person who thinks "Let them eat cake" is actually a good approach to keep the people happy
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This is the 'street' side of hope that is not displayed by western media, because it would show a different version of reality than the one they push constantly with their idiotic narrative, and then if people learn about this, how could the lie keep going strong?
These are the people who we fought for, the ones that no one notices, the ones dying alone and slowly behind the cameras, these kids are real unlike the fake stuff posted by the mainstream media corrupt channels
But these are not the kind of people that Elensky and associates like or consider "Ukrainians". that's why they are being neglected and purposedly harmed in all possible ways
Mashika
11th June 2022, 04:04
Why knowing about other culture, specially one you should understand perfectly since you see it as "the enemy"? Maybe just to not look like a fool in front of the entire world, but more like 'be professional, it is your job to know the enemy perfectly, and you are showing mediocrity in your ways"
The full video is worth watching, but jump to minute 17 for all the magnificence lmao
"Rubenstein" and "Lymon" are now towns in Donbass...
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This is equally or worse than when that guy Lloyd Austin said that the USSR would not be allowed to invade Ukraine... lol
This is how 'professionals' work in the US? Such a low bar then. How are these uneducated baboons the ones in control in the first place? What's going on?
But at least he didn't call Xi Jinping "Yin Yang" lol, so he has that going for him :ROFL:
Mashika
11th June 2022, 04:59
Here's another point i wanted to make long ago, or at least a reference to something i have noticed long ago and that turns me into complete laughter every single time
"The Kremlin says". "Sources at the Kremlin", "News from the Kremlin" etc
"The Kremlin"... LMFAO!
That's kind of one of the most idiotic/foolish/ignorant things to say, considering that Russia is not even governed from "The Kremlin" and that, in the first place, there is no such thing as "The Kremlin" as a government office or place like "The White House" in the US.
There are several "Kremlin" buildings across Russia, the most famous one being the one in the Moscow's red square, but here's the list:
Astrakhan Kremlin
Kolomna Kremlin
Nizhny Novgorod Kremlin
Pskov Kremlin
Rostov Kremlin (a bishop's residence, not formally considered a kremlin)
Tobolsk Kremlin (the sole stone kremlin in Siberia)
Tula Kremlin
Zaraysk Kremlin
Ivangorod Fortress (not formally considered a kremlin)
Oreshek Fortress (not formally considered a kremlin)
Staraya Ladoga
Alexandrov Kremlin (a czar residence, not formally considered a kremlin)
Korela Fortress (not formally considered a kremlin)
Izborsk Kremlin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kremlin_(fortification)
As it turns out, it may be considered normal to assume the red square Kremlin is the only one, because of the symbolic nature of it. But that's for normal people!
Politicians, military and other people in the known, should at least know how idiotic that sounds! Yet we don't see that anywhere (their behavior shows they are ignorant and unwilling to learn)
"Sources from the Kremlin" is a good title for unverified news that sell clicks on the internet
If you are going to play pretend and fake being a journalist, at least learn how to do it right. Every journalist should know what "Kremlin" means, and that from this point of view, saying things like "The kremlin decided to do this or that" is autistic like writing. There is no such thing
The Russian government doesn't work out of "The Kremlin" since decades and decades ago... It is not an official government building in the way most people think of it. Thing about it, a lot of the people on the media wasn't even born yet when the Kremlin in Moscow turned into a museum and world heritage location. Nothing happens there anymore since very very long ago
And the way those journalists talk about it, just goes to show how uneducated they are about the subject they are supposedly "experts" at. This includes all the 'subject matter experts' currently working for main US/West media
Do your F*ing job the right way, get educated about what you need to talk about, stop mediocrity, and ffs learn to pronounce the cities and people's names correctly, it's not that hard ....
The only thing those people cause is for foreigners to look down on them, as 'uneducated fool' is the only impression they cause, even when they act 'serious' while on the video
The Nizhny Novgorod Kremlin
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Nizhny_Novgorod_banner.jpg/1920px-Nizhny_Novgorod_banner.jpg
The Rostov Kremlin
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Rostov19.jpg/1024px-Rostov19.jpg
The red square Kremlin in Moscow
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Kremlin_and_Red_Square.1.jpg
But if you ever get to travel over there, and if you can, go see this, it is worth it, trust me. These pictures don't make it justice, you have to be there to get it :)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Grand_Kremlin_Palace_Andreevsky_hall_1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Grand_Kremlin_Palace_Aleksandr_hall.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Grand_Kremlin_Palace_Georgievsky_hall.jpg
I don't believe people are allowed in there these days, but i may be wrong, haven't checked in some time, but it was limited visits at some point, hard to get to walk over there and see it for yourself. But if you can and manage, it will be a unique experience in life, no doubt about it :)
Mashika
11th June 2022, 05:18
I'm not the only one getting all worked up about the incompetence, ignorance and lack of education in general of those people.. so it seems lmao
Emil Cosman had a very good rant about it as well :p:happythumbsup:
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Mashika
11th June 2022, 08:00
I don't watch American media much, but this guy is someone i'm starting to like a bit lol
"Our transportation systems are dependent on the price of fuel" I love how he has to explain that like he's talking to toddlers lmao
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Mashika
11th June 2022, 08:41
A question/observation for western citizens (of whatever country)
Watch this video, and at moment 43:20 or so, see those kids? Your money is paying for guns that kills them, why? Don't buy guns to 'support Ukraine', it doesn't, it supports corrupt rotten politicians! Help sent to Ukraine is not received by these people, who are the ones actually in the war zone, the people who get the money is not around that place, they are corrupt and distribute the help among them, they buy guns to kill these people, with your money, because that's how the business works.
These are Ukrainian kids, you're paying to kill them, Buy them food and candy and nice clothes instead..
Why are you buying guns that kill these kids? Think fast and think smart
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The US and other countries have been giving billions of dollars to Ukraine, but these people are dying without food or medicine or any kind of help. Think about it! Why are they so desperate and thankful to receive even a small amount of help?
Where is the giant amount of money the western politicians claim to send? It's just a tool of manipulation, it is stolen and distributed between them!:facepalm:
Mashika
11th June 2022, 10:59
I love how he is on the outskirts of St. Peter, in "Dacha Town" lmao, i feel longing and nostalgic right now, just watching that
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Mashika
11th June 2022, 11:56
"If you can hear the bullet bouncing next to you, you are probably still alive" lol
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10293
DonbassDevushka/10293
Ravenlocke
11th June 2022, 13:42
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1535602830937149440
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1535604703089811456
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Ravenlocke
11th June 2022, 13:47
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1535593060410740736
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1535586709307633664
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1535581743880802304
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https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1535452602112122881
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Ravenlocke
11th June 2022, 13:53
https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1535587314138742784
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Spiral
11th June 2022, 14:00
https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1535587314138742784
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I don't think they will be blowing it up, as they are stuck there.....
Miroshnik, an adviser to the head of the LPR, reports that up to 400 Ukrainian soldiers and officers are blocked on the territory of the Azot plant in Severodonetsk.
According to him, the bridge to Lisichansk is damaged and is under fire, which is why the enemy cannot retreat to Lisichansk. The enemy got in touch and demanded a safe retreat to Lisichansk under the cover of civilians who had taken refuge at the plant.
Intelslava Z on telegram
Ravenlocke
11th June 2022, 14:04
https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1535545006756347905
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1535536620446916608
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1535567847631503360
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1535570963806445569
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1535613359608954880
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1535590721360642048
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Ravenlocke
11th June 2022, 14:14
https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1535525733539381249
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https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1535525743979073536
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Ravenlocke
11th June 2022, 14:22
https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1535549805367201792
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Vicus
11th June 2022, 14:40
Ukraine President's Inner Circle Buying Multi-Million $ Mansions in Switzerland!
If Ukraine is winning the war with Russia, then why are key people in President Zelensky's inner circle buying houses in Switzerland? Oh, and how are they affording $9 million for those houses? Is U.S. "foreign aid" being stolen so they can buy multi-million dollar mansions?
Like most countries, Switzerland has land registry records showing who owns a particular property, how much it sold for, and what taxes are paid on it. Extracts from those land registries can be accessed by the general public.
Among the owners of luxury real estate in the country of banks and alpine meadows, are high-ranking officials from Zelensky's entourage.
We begin with Dmitry Razumkov, a Ukrainian politician and former Chairman of the Verkhovna (Legislature).
According to land registry extract Mr. Razumkov seems to have bought himself a luxurious home for 8,954,621.00 Swiss Francs, which are about equal to the value of a U.S. Dollar. His name is at the bottom of the property sale record:
The cost of each home is about 9 million Swiss francs. The franc is currently almost equivalent to the dollar.
They love Ukraine so much that they decided not to live in it.
Not only that, where did these "public servants" come up with about $9 million to get themselves mansions in Switzerland?
Most of these homes were purchased just BEFORE Russia began its Special Military Operation into Ukraine.
Were these homes some sort of Bribe or Payoff to these public officials to get them to sell-out Ukraine by stoking the fires until war broke out? Were these public officials paid-off by someone to get them to help start a war?
Or worse, did foreign aid to Ukraine get stolen so these people could buy luxurious mansions for themselves, far away from the war they helped start?
Inquiring minds want to know. :sherlock:
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-president-s-inner-circle-buying-multi-million-mansions-in-switzerland
Vicus
11th June 2022, 14:51
Ukraine Belatedly Admits 'Heavy Casualty Rate' In Appeal For More Weapons From West
Ukraine's government has thus far kept its military death toll a tightly guarded secret, now four months into the conflict, even as heavy international scrutiny has focused on Russian losses amid prior widespread speculation and assertions that Russia was "losing".
However, there's been a noticeable shift in Western media and among the national security pundit class over the past weeks as Russian forces begin to solidify hold over nearly all the Donbas, and as the final Luhansk holdout city of Severodonetsk's fall looks imminent.
With this backdrop, Mykhaylo Podolyak - a senior advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky - admitted Thursday that Ukraine is losing between 100 and 200 troops per day amid the Russian onslaught. The figure is significantly revised upward compared to President Zelensky only last week offering a loss estimate of between 60 and 100 troops each day.
After seeking to hide or downplay information which could give the appearance of sever Ukrainian losses and battlefield setbacks, it seems taking daily average casualties public is geared toward getting more arms from the West.
"The Russian forces have thrown pretty much everything non-nuclear at the front and that includes heavy artillery, multiple rocket launch systems and aviation," Podolyak told BBC, and further:
He repeated Ukraine's appeal for more weapons from the West, saying that the "complete lack of parity" between the Russian and Ukrainian armies was the reason for Ukraine's heavy casualty rate.
"Our demands for artillery are not just some kind of whim... but an objective need when it comes to the situation on the battlefield," he said. He specified that Ukraine's military needs 150 to 300 rocket launch systems to match Russia, which is far and above what the West has supplied thus far.
At the same time, Podolyak said that his government's position is that peace talks with Russian representatives are not possible until the Kremlin gives back territory it's seized since the Feb.24 invasion began.
Separately, but right on message, Ukraine’s deputy head of military intelligence has said Ukraine is "losing against Russia on the frontlines and is now almost solely reliant on weapons from the west to keep Russia at bay," as cited in The Guardian.
“This is an artillery war now,” said deputy head of military intelligence Vadym Skibitsky. He said in terms of ongoing frontline fighting which he dubbed "where the future would be decided," the reality is "we are losing in terms of artillery."
"Everything now depends on what [the west] gives us," he told The Guardian. "Ukraine has one artillery piece to 10 to 15 Russian artillery pieces. Our western partners have given us about 10% of what they have." In appealing for Kiev's Western backers to send more, particularly the United States, even after billions spent on military aid, he stressed that the military is fast running out of munitions:
"We have almost used up all of our [artillery] ammunition and are now using 155-calibre Nato standard shells," he said of the ammunition that is fired from artillery pieces.
"Europe is also delivering lower-calibre shells but as Europe runs out, the amount is getting smaller."
“If they succeed in the Donbas, they could use these territories to launch another attack on Odesa, [the city of] Zaporizhzhia [and] Dnipro,” said Skibitsky of still Ukrainian controlled cities but which remain in striking distance of Russian-occupied areas.. “Their aim is the whole of Ukraine and more.”
He said further that Russia's weapons supplies can far outlast what Ukraine currently has - up to at least a year before Russia would have to manufacture more or else mobilize the population to ramp up production, according to his description of the situation to The Guardian. But given these admissions, and that the reality now slowly dawning on the West that Russia's military won't be able to be dislodged from the east, but with Kiev still resistant to the idea of a negotiated settlement, what's the endgame here?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-belatedly-admits-heavy-casualty-rate-appeal-more-weapons-west
Mashika
11th June 2022, 15:02
https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1535587314138742784
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I don't think they will be blowing it up, as they are stuck there.....
Miroshnik, an adviser to the head of the LPR, reports that up to 400 Ukrainian soldiers and officers are blocked on the territory of the Azot plant in Severodonetsk.
According to him, the bridge to Lisichansk is damaged and is under fire, which is why the enemy cannot retreat to Lisichansk. The enemy got in touch and demanded a safe retreat to Lisichansk under the cover of civilians who had taken refuge at the plant.
Intelslava Z on telegram
The 'bros' hit the bridge to prevent the ukros from leaving the zone, they use them as temporary meat bags and to give them time to regroup on the other side, or to run away. These guys trapped there are normal 'not-nazi' soldiers for the most part, that's why they were left there as cannon fodder. The nazis, as usual, ran away to the west, as they are not manly enough to deal a real battle. F*ing cowards
Mashika
11th June 2022, 15:26
Ukraine President's Inner Circle Buying Multi-Million $ Mansions in Switzerland!
If Ukraine is winning the war with Russia, then why are key people in President Zelensky's inner circle buying houses in Switzerland? Oh, and how are they affording $9 million for those houses? Is U.S. "foreign aid" being stolen so they can buy multi-million dollar mansions?
Like most countries, Switzerland has land registry records showing who owns a particular property, how much it sold for, and what taxes are paid on it. Extracts from those land registries can be accessed by the general public.
Among the owners of luxury real estate in the country of banks and alpine meadows, are high-ranking officials from Zelensky's entourage.
We begin with Dmitry Razumkov, a Ukrainian politician and former Chairman of the Verkhovna (Legislature).
According to land registry extract Mr. Razumkov seems to have bought himself a luxurious home for 8,954,621.00 Swiss Francs, which are about equal to the value of a U.S. Dollar. His name is at the bottom of the property sale record:
The cost of each home is about 9 million Swiss francs. The franc is currently almost equivalent to the dollar.
They love Ukraine so much that they decided not to live in it.
Not only that, where did these "public servants" come up with about $9 million to get themselves mansions in Switzerland?
Most of these homes were purchased just BEFORE Russia began its Special Military Operation into Ukraine.
Were these homes some sort of Bribe or Payoff to these public officials to get them to sell-out Ukraine by stoking the fires until war broke out? Were these public officials paid-off by someone to get them to help start a war?
Or worse, did foreign aid to Ukraine get stolen so these people could buy luxurious mansions for themselves, far away from the war they helped start?
Inquiring minds want to know. :sherlock:
Yes and да, and так because i like to pretend i'm ukrainy, slava ukrainee :P
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-president-s-inner-circle-buying-multi-million-mansions-in-switzerland
Mashika
11th June 2022, 15:29
https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1535587314138742784
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I don't think they will be blowing it up, as they are stuck there.....
But they could and they totally did.... :P
Mashika
11th June 2022, 16:15
A shell a day, keeps the Brazilian mercenary away
I don't know portuguese but this is very close... "Estas bien?"
Hay Dios indeed
Don't go support kid rapists and murderers and then ask God for help when you are receiving justice back, moron
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10358
DonbassDevushka/10358
Spiral
11th June 2022, 16:17
I don't think they will be blowing it up, as they are stuck there.....
But they could and they totally did.... :P
#glorytoukraine
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Bellends.....
Mashika
11th June 2022, 16:24
I don't think they will be blowing it up, as they are stuck there.....
But they could and they totally did.... :P
#glorytoukraine
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Bellends.....
https://twitter.com/teampelosi/status/1503166519097761794
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Oh God, stop it please... "Hay Dios mio, deten este sufrimiento ya!"
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shaberon
11th June 2022, 18:52
Hopefully it awakens a little bit the world of Anglo-Saxonial exceptionalism.
Yes, all of what you said is generally true. To me, it is very interesting. There are so many scripts and the next I had in mind was perhaps Cherokee.
I would say that Latin languages are quite simple, not just due to our shared script, but also the languages themselves.
I can hardly read a Grand Staff at all, but, give me chord charts such as Bm7b5 and I can read circles through it. In terms of letters, I cannot even read the new "pronunciation system"!
What I have noticed and what I admire is that, even when translated to English, Russian is still a "different language" because of focusing on different ideas, and a more comprehensive way of putting them together.
There seems to be this gulf where most of the English speaking world does not notice anything outside of its own ideas, and this just seems like it will make it more and more difficult to communicate with any English speaking person. It will continue as the lingua franca of something not much farther along than caveman speech "hey put that thing over there", as a sort of known handicap on mental development, that some day will be politely excused as an embarrassing reminder of limitations which are the birthright of those from regions that will be understood as backwaters.
I would have to remain neutral that Russian might be easy to pick up, if I had someone to speak and read some of it for me. "Off the page", it is pretty tricky, and just with trying to follow words in music, Chinese is probably easier.
Vicus
11th June 2022, 19:15
A shell a day, keeps the Brazilian mercenary away
I don't know portuguese but this is very close... "Estas bien?"
Hay Dios indeed
Don't go support kid rapists and murderers and then ask God for help when you are receiving justice back, moron
"Ay dios ,... estas bien? si senior."
That is spanish...
kfm27917
11th June 2022, 23:19
more details about the SU-57
https://www.stalkerzone.org/nato-is-in-thought-the-russians-are-learning-to-walk-on-their-heads/
https://www.stalkerzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/scale_1200-1.webp
kfm27917
11th June 2022, 23:28
It Became Clear What Kherson & Zaporozhye Will Give Russia
https://www.stalkerzone.org/it-became-clear-what-kherson-zaporozhye-will-give-russia/
kfm27917
11th June 2022, 23:45
What to Do With Former Ukraine?
https://www.stalkerzone.org/what-to-do-with-former-ukraine/
Mashika
12th June 2022, 02:25
A shell a day, keeps the Brazilian mercenary away
I don't know portuguese but this is very close... "Estas bien?"
Hay Dios indeed
Don't go support kid rapists and murderers and then ask God for help when you are receiving justice back, moron
"Ay dios ,... estas bien? si senior."
That is spanish...
Yes i know, that's why it says here:
I don't know portuguese but this is very close... "Estas bien?"
:p
Mashika
12th June 2022, 02:47
more details about the SU-57
https://www.stalkerzone.org/nato-is-in-thought-the-russians-are-learning-to-walk-on-their-heads/
https://www.stalkerzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/scale_1200-1.webp
I like those planes, but i will always be bothered about the "sound of death" thing they engineered into them
Zid1Nv-FfyQ
We were talking about it some time ago here
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114354-Sounds-of-terrible-things-to-come
It is basically the 'fear' strategy
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Mashika
12th June 2022, 04:00
He lost his will to fight, just stopped trying and decided to just sit there and wait for it. I'm so sorry guy, i'm truly sorry, this didn't need to happen to you, or anyone else out there
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10410
DonbassDevushka/10410
Why i'm posting this? To bring awareness, these is what happens to lots of people out there, is not a stat, or a cool movie shot, it's just death. One second you are alive, the next one you are not anymore. I hope people can understand how brutal this war issue is, through watching that stuff. Then maybe we can reconsider how this all began and who started, and why in the first place, and then it could lead into not allowing it to happen again in the future
shaberon
12th June 2022, 05:38
Well, around here--actually, one of my neighbors killed somebody last week. I saw that on a newspaper in a vending machine. They live somewhere on this street. We can't even crank out an Antifa mob that would be worth any kind of serious reporting, but, we, the public, are just that dangerous to each other every day.
A gun was involved, and, the terrible thing is that poor people will grab something cheap like a .22 or something and tear you up with jagged holes, instead of cleanly executing you. Even Nazis know the difference between different kinds of weapons. They know that a French Cesar gun is not a joke! And they have put some to serious use. Of course, it can't help them in any military capacity, but, it has been found to be fatal to civilians. Did the manufacturer recommend that?
Occasionally, France is, or was, worth speaking of, in fact from what I recall, their last great idea was to evacuate Den Bien Phu.
As everyone knows, the Ukrainian military can very well help itself in an offensive direction, which, at all costs, must be "something" to a narrow segment of the Russian border, which is approximately equal to a line along some stakes out in the woods somewhere. When you can actually penetrate something like this, you are about to turn the Kremlin into a Gingerbread House. Thank you, Eighth or Ninth Republic or whatever, and, vive la revolution:
In the north of the Kharkiv region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are reportedly regrouping in order to launch another counter offensive against Russian forces. So far, the AFU have failed twice to take back control of Ternove and Varvarovka. Positional clashes continue in the region. Ukrainian positions in the villages of Udy, Cherkassy Tishki, Svetlichny, Zolochiv and Stary Saltov are constantly shelled by Russian artillery.
https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/donetsk-768x575.jpg
You get two choices...hold your breath...forever...or blink.
The so-called G7 dusted by Eight:
“The group of eight countries not participating in the sanctions wars – China, India, Russia, Indonesia, Brazil, Mexico, Iran, Turkey – in terms of GDP at PPP is 24.4% ahead of the old group,” Volodin, Russian State Duma speaker.
I get misty-eyed when I see something like this because it actually is historically pivotal. If you don't know what that is, you can be taught to read:
The first bridge connecting Russia and China was opened in the Russian city of Blagoveshchensk and Chinese city of Heihe. The opening ceremony was held on June 10, 2022.
https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Russia_China_bridge-768x585.jpg
The capacity of the bridge is 630 trucks, 164 buses and 68 cars.
Our road is named after a bridge that no longer exists, and, on this property is a bridge head of something that isn't there anymore, and, we can go up the road and find where we know one was specifically removed.
There is not but only one time, ever, that something like the above can happen.
Surely the signs cannot be too terribly hard to read.
There are birds, and certain dogs, that can be sent, if attention has not been gotten.
Mashika
12th June 2022, 09:20
lol.. ha ha ha, ou noes....
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10439
DonbassDevushka/10439
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Vladimir Putin, President of the United States, has signed a new price hike
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10440
DonbassDevushka/10440
Mashika
12th June 2022, 09:39
:heart2::happythumbsup::blackwidow:
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10468
DonbassDevushka/10468
Gwin Ru
12th June 2022, 12:50
...
... A case study in American propaganda (https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/06/12/a-case-study-in-american-propaganda/)
By: MikeRivero (https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/NEW/user/1)
Posted on: Jun 12 08:07
Here’s a joke I recently heard a Russian tell:
A Russian is on an airliner heading to the US, and the American in the seat next to him asks,
“So what brings you to the US?”
The Russian replies,
“I’m studying the American approach to propaganda.”
The American says,
“What propaganda?”
The Russian says,
“That’s what I mean.”
Ravenlocke
12th June 2022, 14:33
https://twitter.com/Wilkmaster/status/1535944893448830977
1535944893448830977
https://www.pressenza.com/2022/06/ukraine-is-losing-badly-and-things-are-about-to-get-much-worse-for-them-unless/
Ukraine is Losing Badly and Things Are About to Get Much Worse for Them, Unless …
A Bit Of Context For Those Who Decide To Read This
The information in the article you are about to read, if you choose to read on, will most likely clash with some of the mainstream media’s presentation of what has been taking place in Ukraine over the last three-plus months. I’m not sure what else to say about this possibility other than I hope that this discrepancy spurs you to further investigate the information I’ve presented in this article. I encourage you also to check out the links I’ve shared in the citation section of this piece.
Russia’s Shift To Plan B After A Thwarted Initial Attempt
After a failed attempt at taking Kyiv in February and March that would have ended their special operation mission very quickly, Russia went on to its plan B which was to destroy the core of the Ukrainian army in the Donbas region of Ukraine. It’s been known from the beginning of this conflict that if Russia were to take the Donbas region that Ukraine would have very little to no chance of prevailing in turning back the much larger, more skilled and better armed Russian army.
This Past May
On May 26th the key town of Lyman was taken by Russian forces within a few hours. This followed a major Ukrainian collapse in Svitlovodsk along with another defeat in Poposna a few weeks earlier. During this period there was also a mass surrender of Ukrainian forces at the Azovstal Steelworks plant in Mariupol. (1) This brought the total number of Ukrainian prisoners taken by the Russian army to upwards of 8,000 by the end of May.
So Far This June
During the first week and a half of June other towns and villages in the Donbas region have also been falling. Russian forces have since moved on to encircle Severodonetsk and Lysychansk and they are steadily breaking through their defenses layer by layer, generating heavy Ukrainian casualties.
On top of all this, two days ago there was a televised report delivered by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu during which he confirmed that the land corridor from Russia to Crimea is now complete and in full operation. “Full fledged traffic” (2), road and rail, can now move from Russia through the Donbass region through to Kherzon and Saporischschja which are both now almost completely controlled by Russia.
The US Media Is Fanning The Flames Of War
As Katrina Vanden Heuvel described while being interviewed two days ago by Democracy Now’s Amy Goodman, “The one-sided media debate” is fanning the flames of war in Ukraine. (3) Aside from the considerable amount of seriously questionable reporting that the Western media has been spewing about what is taking place on the battlefield in Ukraine, there has also been a proliferation of cartoonishly ghoulish accusations that the Russian army has been undertaking atrocities like child torture and infant rape. However, none of these accusations have been backed up by any actual proof. In fact, the Ukrainian parliament recently removed their Human Rights Chief Lyudmila Denisova when it became clear that she herself was creating and proliferating the aforementioned gruesome stories.(4)
The Western public’s swallowing of the mainstream media’s propaganda fueled demonization of Russia as a country and as a people, along with the total misrepresentation of their army as an inept band of unscrupulous renegades and rapists has made productive dialogue about the current conflict all but impossible up until very recently.
There is a history behind this war. In actuality this conflict did not begin in February of this year. This battle has been going on for the better part of eight years and, whether it is hard (right now) to read this or not, there are, without question, two sides to the story of what is going on in Ukraine right now. That said, we will leave this issue aside for the moment, as it is beyond the scope of the objective of this particular article.
Questioning The Western Media Is Absolutely Not Synonymous With Supporting The Invasion
Questioning the US’ role in the escalation of this conflict absolutely does NOT imply a condonation of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. In other words, articles like this one that question and at times clash with the corporately controlled status-quo line of thought are not “pro-Putin” pieces in anyway whatsoever. Until this is understood, we, the one’s paying (monetarily) for this war, will continue to spin our wheels in a comic book-like fantasy, attempting over and over again to pit a supposed all good protagonist against a supposed all evil enemy. And as we demean and cancel each other in this way we will continue to side-step anything that could contribute to the construction of an actual solution to the problem at hand.
The 40 Billion Dollars That You And I Just Gave To Ukraine And Raytheon
Despite what some Western pundits have said about the new weapons shipment to Ukraine being some sort of “game changer”, the truth of the matter is, the weapons sent to Ukraine are not going to make any sort of substantial difference to the outcome of the conflict.(5)
In fact, if you read between the lines of Joe Biden’s Op-Ed in the NY Times from May 31st, it’s fairly clear that the US and NATO are aware of the fact that Ukraine has no chance of resurrecting itself at this stage of the game.(6) This means that what was actually sent out was a 40 billion dollar gesture signal (made up of US taxpayer money) that included a multi-billion dollar gift to the Raytheon Weapons and Defense Conglomerate.
The US and NATO Must Immediately Shift From Promoting Escalation to Promoting A Settlement
Ukraine’s overall fighting capacity has seriously weakened. Frankly, there is no realistic chance of a turnaround at this point in the conflict. On the contrary, all indications are that Ukrainian forces are going to continue to be crushed as their numbers decrease at an accelerated rate with each passing week.
Ukraine, with the US and NATO’s blessing, must now agree to become a neutral state. Ukraine must also agree to cede land to Russia. They will certainly lose more territory than they would have if negotiations had not been pre-empted in March.(7) But what is the other alternative?! Tens of thousands more dead Ukrainians? A complete takeover of Ukraine by Russia? Both?? All indications are, if we can find a way to look past the Western media’s smoke screen, that Putin and Russia would have and will still negotiate if a serious attempt is made to work out a settlement. Again, a serious attempt at a settlement would mean that Ukraine would absolutely have to cede territory to Russia, territory already controlled by Russian forces. This is, in this writer’s opinion, the only reasonable, workable and sane move for Ukraine and the US/NATO to make at this point.
Ravenlocke
12th June 2022, 14:44
https://twitter.com/DefensePolitics/status/1535948112434712576
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https://twitter.com/DefensePolitics/status/1535959708921925632
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Ravenlocke
12th June 2022, 14:50
https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1535991014128861184
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https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1535993138275393546
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https://twitter.com/Denyo666/status/1535957134558494721
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Ravenlocke
12th June 2022, 14:58
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1535890096016211968
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https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1535869665909645317
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Ravenlocke
12th June 2022, 15:21
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1535684744708505602
1535684744708505602
Paul Mason’s covert intelligence-linked plot to destroy The Grayzone exposed
Leaked emails reveal British journalist Paul Mason plotting with an intel contractor to destroy The Grayzone through “relentless deplatforming” and a “full nuclear legal” attack. The scheme is part of a wider planned assault on the UK left.
A former Trotskyist and BBC journeyman, journalist Paul Mason has made a career as the establishment’s favorite gatekeeper of the UK left. Since the Russian military incursion into Ukraine, he has cemented his position as one of Britain’s most vocal “left” cheerleaders for Western military intervention.
While leading a “U.K. left” delegation to Kiev and a demonstration through the streets of London in support of NATO military escalation against Russia, Mason has accordingly used his platform to assail journalists, academics, Labour party members and private citizens who oppose shipping piles of advanced weaponry to Ukraine.
In a series of recent columns, Mason called for the state-enforced suppression of facts and perspectives he considers overly sympathetic to the Kremlin, and demanded “state action” against members of the media that oppose the NATO line on Ukraine. He placed The Grayzone at the top of his fantasy censorship target list.
Mason has since announced a run for parliament on the Labour ticket to wage his crusade against “disinformation” from inside the House of Commons.
The Grayzone, meanwhile, has learned through anonymously leaked emails and documents that Mason has been engaged in a malicious secret campaign that aims to enlist the British state and “friendly” intelligence cut-outs to undermine, censor and even criminalize antiwar dissenters.
In one leaked email, Mason thundered for the “relentless deplatforming” of The Grayzone and the creation of “a kind of permanent rebuttal operation” to discredit it.
In another, the celebrity journalist declared that “the far left rogue academics is who I’m after,” then rants that he is motivated by fear of an emergent “left anti imperialist identity” which “will be attractive because liberalism doesn’t know how to counter it.”
https://i0.wp.com/thegrayzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/photo5836840030071535813.jpg?w=1280&ssl=1
Mason is joined in his covert crusade by Amil Khan, the founder of a shadowy intelligence contractor called Valent Projects. In the cache of leaked emails, Khan proposed to Mason the initiation of a “clever John Oliver style stunt that makes [The Grayzone] a laughing stock,” as well as a “full nuclear legal to squeeze them financially.”
The Grayzone has previously revealed Khan’s extensive involvement in the Syrian dirty war, during which he provided public relations guidance to jihadist groups, trained anti-government activists in communication strategies, and secretly oversaw supposed citizen journalist collectives backed by foreign governments. His goal was to flood international media with pro-opposition propaganda, destabilize the government of Bashar Assad, and ready the ground for Western regime change.
This ethically dubious work was conducted for a variety of intelligence-adjacent British Foreign Office contractors, such as ARK, a firm founded by probable MI6 operative Alistair Harris, and IncoStrat, which has been plausibly accused of producing propaganda for the blood-stained UK and Saudi-backed insurgents.
After leaving the Middle East, Khan reinvented himself as an expert in countering “disinformation”, and has since charged a number of blue chip clients a premium for his dubious services. As this outlet reported, the same techniques of manipulation and information warfare that Khan honed in Syria were turned against Western citizens when he oversaw a British quasi-state funded astroturf YouTube project designed to counter public skepticism of Covid-related restrictions.
Khan’s email communications with Mason illustrate the grudge he has harbored since The Grayzone exposed his devious exploits. In the missives, he descends into self-delusion, insisting this outlet’s factual reporting was, in fact, state-sponsored retaliation for his crusading work “opposing military dictators and kleptocrats.”
Together, Khan and Mason plotted to assemble a coalition of anti-Grayzone actors, including the US and UK government-funded “open source” outlet Bellingcat, which Mason revealingly described as a channel for “intel service input by proxy.” Khan proposed convening the de facto Victims of Grayzone Memorial Foundation at an in-person summit to “come up with a plan that addresses [The Grayzone’s] objectives and vulnerabilities.”
At one point, a member of their coalition embedded inside the UK Foreign Office reached out across the Atlantic for advice from Nina Jankowicz, the disgraced former head of the Department of Homeland Security’s Disinformation Governance Board.
It is uncertain how Mason and Khan became acquainted, but their mutual coincidence of needs, motives and vendettas is obvious. The public interest in releasing the pair’s private communications is also abundantly clear. If their planned criminalization of The Grayzone for publishing facts and opinions they abhor is successful, it will have dire ramifications for any and all journalists and independent media institutions seeking to challenge the status quo.
When approached by The Grayzone, Paul Mason declined to comment on the incriminating correspondence with Khan, and claimed to have informed local police that “an attempt was made” to hack his email account. While dismissing the leaked content as “likely to be edited, distorted or fake,” he went on to pledge he would “not cease to identify and rebut Russian disinformation operations masquerading as journalism.”
In other words, Mason implied he plans to carry on with the very activity exposed in the leaked emails.
The rest of the article is here:
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/06/07/paul-masons-covert-intelligence-grayzone/
Journeyman
12th June 2022, 20:41
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1535684744708505602
1535684744708505602
Paul Mason’s covert intelligence-linked plot to destroy The Grayzone exposed
Leaked emails reveal British journalist Paul Mason plotting with an intel contractor to destroy The Grayzone through “relentless deplatforming” and a “full nuclear legal” attack. The scheme is part of a wider planned assault on the UK left.
A former Trotskyist and BBC journeyman, journalist Paul Mason has made a career as the establishment’s favorite gatekeeper of the UK left. Since the Russian military incursion into Ukraine, he has cemented his position as one of Britain’s most vocal “left” cheerleaders for Western military intervention.
While leading a “U.K. left” delegation to Kiev and a demonstration through the streets of London in support of NATO military escalation against Russia, Mason has accordingly used his platform to assail journalists, academics, Labour party members and private citizens who oppose shipping piles of advanced weaponry to Ukraine.
In a series of recent columns, Mason called for the state-enforced suppression of facts and perspectives he considers overly sympathetic to the Kremlin, and demanded “state action” against members of the media that oppose the NATO line on Ukraine. He placed The Grayzone at the top of his fantasy censorship target list.
Mason has since announced a run for parliament on the Labour ticket to wage his crusade against “disinformation” from inside the House of Commons.
The Grayzone, meanwhile, has learned through anonymously leaked emails and documents that Mason has been engaged in a malicious secret campaign that aims to enlist the British state and “friendly” intelligence cut-outs to undermine, censor and even criminalize antiwar dissenters.
In one leaked email, Mason thundered for the “relentless deplatforming” of The Grayzone and the creation of “a kind of permanent rebuttal operation” to discredit it.
In another, the celebrity journalist declared that “the far left rogue academics is who I’m after,” then rants that he is motivated by fear of an emergent “left anti imperialist identity” which “will be attractive because liberalism doesn’t know how to counter it.”
https://i0.wp.com/thegrayzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/photo5836840030071535813.jpg?w=1280&ssl=1
Mason is joined in his covert crusade by Amil Khan, the founder of a shadowy intelligence contractor called Valent Projects. In the cache of leaked emails, Khan proposed to Mason the initiation of a “clever John Oliver style stunt that makes [The Grayzone] a laughing stock,” as well as a “full nuclear legal to squeeze them financially.”
The Grayzone has previously revealed Khan’s extensive involvement in the Syrian dirty war, during which he provided public relations guidance to jihadist groups, trained anti-government activists in communication strategies, and secretly oversaw supposed citizen journalist collectives backed by foreign governments. His goal was to flood international media with pro-opposition propaganda, destabilize the government of Bashar Assad, and ready the ground for Western regime change.
This ethically dubious work was conducted for a variety of intelligence-adjacent British Foreign Office contractors, such as ARK, a firm founded by probable MI6 operative Alistair Harris, and IncoStrat, which has been plausibly accused of producing propaganda for the blood-stained UK and Saudi-backed insurgents.
After leaving the Middle East, Khan reinvented himself as an expert in countering “disinformation”, and has since charged a number of blue chip clients a premium for his dubious services. As this outlet reported, the same techniques of manipulation and information warfare that Khan honed in Syria were turned against Western citizens when he oversaw a British quasi-state funded astroturf YouTube project designed to counter public skepticism of Covid-related restrictions.
Khan’s email communications with Mason illustrate the grudge he has harbored since The Grayzone exposed his devious exploits. In the missives, he descends into self-delusion, insisting this outlet’s factual reporting was, in fact, state-sponsored retaliation for his crusading work “opposing military dictators and kleptocrats.”
Together, Khan and Mason plotted to assemble a coalition of anti-Grayzone actors, including the US and UK government-funded “open source” outlet Bellingcat, which Mason revealingly described as a channel for “intel service input by proxy.” Khan proposed convening the de facto Victims of Grayzone Memorial Foundation at an in-person summit to “come up with a plan that addresses [The Grayzone’s] objectives and vulnerabilities.”
At one point, a member of their coalition embedded inside the UK Foreign Office reached out across the Atlantic for advice from Nina Jankowicz, the disgraced former head of the Department of Homeland Security’s Disinformation Governance Board.
It is uncertain how Mason and Khan became acquainted, but their mutual coincidence of needs, motives and vendettas is obvious. The public interest in releasing the pair’s private communications is also abundantly clear. If their planned criminalization of The Grayzone for publishing facts and opinions they abhor is successful, it will have dire ramifications for any and all journalists and independent media institutions seeking to challenge the status quo.
When approached by The Grayzone, Paul Mason declined to comment on the incriminating correspondence with Khan, and claimed to have informed local police that “an attempt was made” to hack his email account. While dismissing the leaked content as “likely to be edited, distorted or fake,” he went on to pledge he would “not cease to identify and rebut Russian disinformation operations masquerading as journalism.”
In other words, Mason implied he plans to carry on with the very activity exposed in the leaked emails.
The rest of the article is here:
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/06/07/paul-masons-covert-intelligence-grayzone/
That's a fascinating read.
It did get me wondering where Grayzone got those emails from. There's clearly an ongoing information war. I wonder just how blurred the lines are between opinion formers and intelligence agencies? Bellingcat is one that's often cited and got a mention in the article too.
Bill Ryan
12th June 2022, 22:12
An interesting announcement from the Russian Duma speaker — and so far I've only seen this reported in Indian media.
The "New G8" was named as China, India, Russia, Indonesia, Brazil, Mexico, Iran, and Turkey... but I'd imagine many other nations would be happy to join in, such as Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Hungary, Pakistan, and a whole bunch of African nations and possibly more South American ones, too.
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/russias-duma-speaker-alludes-to-new-g8-which-includes-india-iran-and-china-as-war-with-ukraine-continues-article-92158191
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Russia's Duma speaker alludes to 'new G8' which includes India, Iran and China as war with Ukraine continues
The US "with its own hands" pushed the countries, which are not participating in "sanctions wars", to form a "new Big Eight" group with Russia, the State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said on Saturday.
As the Ukraine-Russia war continues, State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin on Saturday opined that the nations who had so far refused to participate in the "sanctions war" were being pushed into forming a "new Big Eight" group with Moscow. While Russia had been part of the original 'G8' its participation in the bloc was suspended over Crimea's vote to join the country in 2014. The new 'grouping' includes India, China, Brazil and Iran.
"The group of eight countries not participating in the sanctions wars -- China, India, Russia, Indonesia, Brazil, Mexico, Iran, Turkey -- in terms of GDP at PPP is 24.4 per cent ahead of the old group," Volodin wrote in a Telegram post.
The US and other G7 countries - Japan, Germany, Britain, France, Italy and Canada - he opined had pushed the other nations together "with its own hands". The Russian leader also claimed that the the economies of the G7 members continue "to crack under the weight of sanctions imposed against Russia". According to him, the 'new G8' was comprised of "countries wishing to build an equal dialogue and mutually beneficial relations".
Earlier on Friday, President Vladimiar Putin had insisted that it was impossible to "fence off" a country like Russia from the outside. Russia has the opportunity to build partnerships not only with China and India, but also with Latin America, as well as Africa, which "is still sleeping, but is about waking up", Putin said.
Bilateral ties with Russia are a key pillar of Indian foreign policy and the country sees Moscow as a longstanding and time-tested friend that has played a significant role in its economic development and security. While India has sought the cessation of violence in Ukraine, it has stopped short of out rightly condemning Russia's actions. New Delhi had instead opted to focus on its massive evacuation efforts from Ukraine towards the beginning of the war, abstained from voting against Russia at the UN and repeatedly called for a peaceful and diplomatic resolution.
Ravenlocke
12th June 2022, 23:33
Here’s some more articles about the “new G8”
https://twitter.com/jorgeluismota/status/1535580935990697984
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https://russia.postsen.com/news/38179/Volodin-announced-the-emergence-of-a-new-big-eight-G8.html
Volodin announced the emergence of a “new big eight” G8
State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said that the economies of the G7 countries “continue to crack under the weight of the sanctions imposed against Russia.” In his telegram channel, he argues that in the first quarter of this year in the United States alone, the fall in GDP was 1.5%, and inflation “reached its highest level since December 1981.”
According to Volodin, the severance by Washington and the allies of “existing economic relations” in the world provoked the emergence of “new points of growth.” The speaker considers them to be China, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Turkey, Brazil, Iran and Russia itself. These eight countries are not participating in the sanctions wars, he writes.
“The United States, with its own hands, created the conditions for countries <...> actually formed a “new big eight” together with Russia,” Volodin believes.
He concluded his morning post by arguing that the US is “sagging” in the economy and therefore “continues to create tension in the world <...> to solve your problems at the expense of others.”
“And this will inevitably lead to the loss of hegemony in the world,” Volodin summed up.
https://twitter.com/serbiamontene11/status/1535707304338657280
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https://csmtimes.com/us-policies-led-to-new-g8-moscow
US policies led to ‘new G8’ – Moscow
Washington has pushed the countries not participating in “sanctions wars” to form a new economic bloc, Russia’s Duma speaker said
The United States “with its own hands” pushed the countries, which are not participating in “sanctions wars,” to form a “new Big Eight” group with Russia, the Russian State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said on Saturday.
Following the launch of Russia’s military offensive in Ukraine in late February, the US, EU, UK and many other countries imposed hard-hitting restrictions on Moscow, making Russia the most sanctioned country in the world.
In a Telegram post, Volodin included a table with IMF data on GDP based on purchasing power parity of countries he calls the “new G8” and of countries forming the current G7 (after Russia’s participation in the bloc was suspended over Crimea’s vote to join the country in 2014, the G8 effectively turned into the G7).
“The group of eight countries not participating in the sanctions wars – China, India, Russia, Indonesia, Brazil, Mexico, Iran, Turkey – in terms of GDP at PPP is 24.4% ahead of the old group,” Volodin wrote.
In his opinion, the economies of the G7 members – the United States, Japan, Germany, Britain, France, Italy and Canada – continue “to crack under the weight of sanctions imposed against Russia.”
The rupture of existing economic relations by Washington and its allies has led to the formation of new points of growth in the world,” Volodin claimed.
While having serious economic difficulties, the US, according to the Duma speaker, continues “doing everything to solve their problems at the expense of others.” Creating tensions will “inevitably” lead the US to lose its world domination, Volodin stressed.
“The United States created the conditions with its own hands for countries wishing to build an equal dialogue and mutually beneficial relations to actually form a ‘new Big Eight’ together with Russia,” he said.
Meanwhile, on Friday, US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Eric Woodhouse said that Washington and its allies had realized that they would get “spillovers” of anti-Russia sanctions into their own economies. Their determination in imposing sanctions on Moscow, he claimed, has demonstrated a willingness to “accept those costs.”
US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen admitted on the same day that the anti-Russia sanctions have made a “huge difference to food and energy prices,” amid record-setting inflation. The remarks followed the statement by the Russian President Vladimir Putin who said that “many years of mistakes made by Western nations” in their economic and sanctions policies have caused “a global wave of inflation, disruption of established logistical and manufacturing chains, a surge in poverty and a deficit of food.”
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https://ommcomnews.com/world-news/russias-duma-speaker-alludes-to-new-g8-which-includes-india
Russia’s Duma Speaker Alludes To ‘New G8’ Which Includes India
Moscow: The US “with its own hands” pushed the countries, which are not participating in “sanctions wars”, to form a “new Big Eight” group with Russia, the Russian State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said on Saturday.
In a Telegram post, Volodin included a table with IMF data on GDP based on purchasing power parity of countries he calls the “new G8” and of countries forming the current G7 (after Russia’s participation in the bloc was suspended over Crimea’s vote to join the country in 2014, the G8 effectively turned into the G7), RT reported.
“The group of eight countries not participating in the sanctions wars — China, India, Russia, Indonesia, Brazil, Mexico, Iran, Turkey — in terms of GDP at PPP is 24.4 per cent ahead of the old group,” Volodin wrote, RT reported.
In his opinion, the economies of the G7 members — the US, Japan, Germany, Britain, France, Italy and Canada — continue “to crack under the weight of sanctions imposed against Russia”.
Following the launch of Russia’s military offensive in Ukraine in late February, the US, EU, UK and many other countries imposed hard-hitting restrictions on Moscow, making Russia the most sanctioned country in the world.
“The rupture of existing economic relations by Washington and its allies has led to the formation of new points of growth in the world,” Volodin claimed.
While having serious economic difficulties, the US, according to the Duma speaker, continues “doing everything to solve their problems at the expense of others”.
Creating tensions will “inevitably” lead the US to lose its world domination, Volodin stressed, RT reported.
“The US created the conditions with its own hands for countries wishing to build an equal dialogue and mutually beneficial relations to actually form a ‘new Big Eight’ together with Russia,” he said.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/economics/with-weakening-western-economies-new-g8-forms---this-time-wi
With weakening Western economies, new G8 forms - this time with Russia
The US-led sanctions are not only backfiring, but are also improving Russian cooperation with China and many other strong economies around the world.
On Saturday, Russian State Duma Speaker, Vyacheslav Volodin, said the United States, "with its own hands," pushed countries not participating in "sanctions wars" to form a new "Big Eight" - or a G8 - group with Russia.
West-led sanctions have sunken the world into unprecedented rates of inflation and shortages, in addition to energy crises in Europe, as a result of bans on Russian oil. The US, along with NATO countries, have been engaging in a form of 'cancel culture' against countries that have either not condemned Russia, or have not joined the sanctions and political and economic isolation of Russia.
Read more: Scholz visits Serbia, urges to join sanctions on Russia
The sanctions, however, as many experts have predicted, have not only backfired, but have also improved Russian cooperation with China and many other strong economies around the world.
Volodin, in a post on Telegram, posted a table with IMF data with indices of purchasing power parity by country, calling the table the "new G8", in addition to countries forming the current G7 after the suspension of Russia from the bloc - the G8, in 2014, turned into the G7.
“The group of eight countries not participating in the sanctions wars – China, India, Russia, Indonesia, Brazil, Mexico, Iran, Turkey – in terms of GDP at PPP is 24.4% ahead of the old group,” Volodin wrote. On the other hand, the United States, Japan, Germany, Britain, France, Italy, and Canada continue “to crack under the weight of sanctions imposed against Russia.”
“The rupture of existing economic relations by Washington and its allies has led to the formation of new points of growth in the world,” Volodin claimed.
The US, despite serious economic difficulties, continues "doing everything to solve their problems at the expense of others," remarking that the US' constant creation of tension will lead the US into eventually losing world domination.
“The United States created the conditions with its own hands for countries wishing to build an equal dialogue and mutually beneficial relations to actually form a ‘new Big Eight’ together with Russia,” he said.
Russian official: Russia may benefit from EU oil sanctions
Last Saturday, Russia's Lower House Chairman Vyacheslav Volodin said that Russia's economy may benefit from the EU oil embargo, which was recently imposed wholly on Russian oil as part of the 6th European package of sanctions. In return, EU members will be paying $268 billion per year for rising energy prices, throwing the old continent into a crisis.
"Russia's possible losses caused by a ban on oil exports to Europe, according to experts, could amount to $22 billion a year. But due to surging energy prices, prompted by the sanctions and redirection of Russian oil markets to Asia, the costs can be fully compensated, with a possible profit for our economy," Volodin said on Telegram.
He revealed that Europe will be paying over €250 billion ($268 billion) per year, other than the additional costs of enterprises' transition to new oil brands.
"Washington is doing everything so that the main burden from the implementation of sanctions falls on European countries. It is deliberately weakening the EU economies to make them even more dependent on the US, seeking to govern countries that previously strived for greater independence. Now these states can hardly even think about it," Volodin added.
Ravenlocke
12th June 2022, 23:47
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Guardian's Ukraine tipping point. Biden dumps Elensky. New G8. Nicaragua invites Russia. Update 2
Mashika
13th June 2022, 02:14
The times are changing. so do the signs and colors
Would have been ok to just implement the Minsk agreements and recognize Donbass a a special status territory inside Ukraine, it would still be Ukrainian, but no, the brutal hate and ill will towards the people of Donbass didn't allow for that. They wanted the land and wanted the Donbass people gone. Now it is Russian territory, and the people remains :P
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWvm5xDs_pqAOLRi1qQwxGRqjgu9D_z9J5JLAZcafqRCILLoHvbbSZzEd4kJUznrsy7crMDi3CSTj7DkfaCNk1T_ac9MdA1i1p CWI46cvJm39fjTYGjyDB350TKV9-AHrOAqMYf1OpCVmdV3TqG5-HX=s823-no?authuser=0
Hilarious how the 'i' is gone, they wanted to 'Derussify' the land, but it turned full Russian now lmao. Too bad the base got damaged in the battle, but there will be enough time to rebuild it properly soon enough
Mashika
13th June 2022, 02:22
:ROFL: At least they don't have 'Freedom Fries" lmao
Z-Burger... lol
https://t.me/russia/7154
russia/7154
Z-McDonald's appeared in Syktyvkar.
The menu includes burgers “Za Nashi”, “Za Mir”, “Za Krym”, “Za KaVkaZ”, “Topol-M”, “Katyusha”. Even the unfortunate sauce was not spared - now it is HeinZ.
So that the food does not get lumpy in the throat, in the institution you can splash the already legendary Komi Cola.
Mashika
13th June 2022, 02:39
The very must strongest army in Europe, the very professional soldiers recorded a movie for us to enjoy :P
https://t.me/asbmil/2166
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Mashika
13th June 2022, 07:29
War makes you hardened, i know that face, look into her eyes. It takes years and years to go back to normal, and sometimes it never happens
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWA7EYri0TrvMskPOFnSk-tUzVC5BNJvYDfR-fiUjpVU8p-tLsb60RKbXhyibeggl8jtL1QvK2_B46df-wtNX6woPd_1IW-2nsp6EF4OfsC0z9YUP6QPx1zQd2FXmlCxrkiRD-aG3sjdckcueNJlPv_=w358-h262-no?authuser=0
These kids won't forget, or forgive, and there are hundreds of thousand of them right now in Donbass, all because of stupid politicians making money out of this war. All because of stupid hate and racism, all because of ignorance
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7 TRIP TO MARIUPOL We did it! During our 7th trip, we managed to get to the most remote areas of Mariupol, where people do not have the opportunity to receive humanitarian aid at distribution points. And we also brought to Mariupol an invariable attribute of the main Orthodox holiday - Easter cakes and krashenka. The basements of houses in the area of the Ilyich plant are the first place where our team arrived this time. The first thing that caught my eye was the deserted ruined streets and the silence, interrupted only by the sounds of shots and explosions. At first glance, it seemed that no one lives here anymore and we came in vain ... Until the tenants began to cautiously converge from the courtyards of the houses, they are still afraid to leave their shelters. Candles, bread and water were handed out to almost everything. Most of the drugs too. These areas are simply a humanitarian catastrophe. Frostbite, consequences of injury, burns - almost everyone. People are unable to get to two working hospitals, so plasters, bandages, iodine, brilliant green and antiseptics were the first thing that almost everyone asked for. In all the yards, at the sight of Easter cakes and eggs, people had tears in their eyes ... Such an ordinary trifle for us, for them was a piece of peaceful life, in which the heart does not beat furiously from fear that at this moment there may be an arrival. And that life can end. Every trip, our help changes someone's life. For some, it becomes their daily bread in the most direct sense. For someone, the strength to endure all trials. And for someone, faith that one day it will be calm. For the sake of human destinies it is worth helping. We thank each of you for your help and we ask you to be near and
For people visiting from outside, and trying to figure out what's going on, I politely ask you consider the following: Where is the help supposedly sent by the west? Why is the Ukrainian government neglecting these people? And why are they so happy and desperate to receive this help, from 'the enemy'? Think....
There is a simple situation going on here that will/is changing things. The Ukrainian government is not doing its job at all, they don't care for their own people. This neglect is what causes them to say "We are Ukrainian, we were born here, but just now, after we have been murdered, go to hunger and lack of attention, we just simply wish we were Russian, because they don't treat us the same"
What a way to build a new generation that will NOT forgive and forget what they went through, and will fight back in the near future ANY attempt by Ukraine to regain control of the land
It is not "Ukraine's land", it is these people's land. Understand that
Once, the Ukrainian and west media called Putin a "Hitler", yet Hitler, for all the bad stuff he had going, took at least some care of the German people (think about it, he treated his own people well)
Elensky mistreats, hates and destroys the lives of his own people. Does he even consider himself Ukrainian? Because how can you harm such beautiful people, just like at the videos, how could you have ill will towards such humble, beautiful people?
They have no ill will or hate to anyone, they are not looking at other Ukrainians as 'them' or as "others", because these people consider themselves what they are.. Ukrainians. It's just that now, since they have been hurt so much, they are reconsidering what being "Ukrainian" means, and also think about why the other side of Ukraine is hurting them so much, when they did nothing to deserve that
See this narrative garbage, as it's the usual for western mainstream media, it's offensive to the eye, and rotten to the very core
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/12/ukraine-kherson-counteroffensive-russian-occupation/
"In Kherson, misery under Russian occupation, hope over Ukrainian gains"
KYIV, Ukraine — More than three months of occupation by Russian soldiers has left much of Ukraine’s southern Kherson region isolated, without access to basic medicines and cut off from Ukrainian cellphone and internet service.
But it was Ukraine who cut off those services, not Russia
There are whispers of a coming referendum that would formally make Kherson part of Russia, at least in the Kremlin’s eyes.
There are no whispers, the people who govern the city has said so, the people is united in this, stop lying without any kind of shame, you have lost all your honor now? Rotten sell out?
Read the entire 'article' (if it can be called that) then compare it with the videos online that are never posted by western media, like the ones i posted above. Dare to look at them with a honest, not biased mind, then you can see where and how their suffering is caused/originated, and why they are not going through what that garbage article says. It's the actual opposite, the were going through that, and now it has changed. You think those people are happy smiling and joking and in general out there having fun even while receiving aid from "the oppressor" that this garbage of a sell out corrupt news site claims is making the suffer misery? Think smart, think fast!
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10630
DonbassDevushka/10630
"Terrorise the survivors"
As in the videos above? Lol, and lots of people believe that garbage!
Mashika
13th June 2022, 07:37
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/5633
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/5633
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Oof, that 'journalist' in the Washington post is going to be very butthurt when they learn about this
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/5629
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/5629
Mashika
13th June 2022, 07:41
In the west, it was said that Russian soldiers were burning Orthodox churches and monasteries, the major of the city in which that happened has a different version of the story, how odd he is not on the western media at all
He's probably going to be on the kill list after coming out with this
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/5571
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/5571
Mashika
13th June 2022, 07:52
Rossiyskaya Federation Passport
https://t.me/intelslava/30980
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Multipass!
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Mashika
13th June 2022, 08:04
Ukrainian soldiers mining the entrance to a residential building
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10642
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Mashika
13th June 2022, 09:11
https://www.rt.com/news/557057-stoltenberg-ukraine-give-territory/
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on Sunday that the US-led alliance aims to strengthen Ukraine’s position at the negotiating table, but added that any peace deal would involve compromises, including of territory.
Stoltenberg spoke at the Kultaranta Talks in Finland, following a meeting with Finnish President Sauli Niinisto. While the NATO chief said that the West was willing to “pay a price” to strengthen the Ukrainian military, Kiev will have to make some territorial concessions to Moscow in order to end the current conflict.
“Peace is possible,” he said. “The only question is what price are you willing to pay for peace? How much territory, how much independence, how much sovereignty…are you willing to sacrifice for peace?”
Look at this deranged person talking!
The Minsk agreements did not include Ukraine giving any territory to Russia, it was not about that, but the west pushed them to this situation and now suddenly these people, in their deranged minds, and after breaking that country apart, try to fix it by doing the exact same thing the Minsk agreements would have prevented! What bunch of incompetent fools
And i wonder, are the Ukrainian officials now realizing how much they been had, fooled and used? Or are they still trying to become europeans and get more westernized lol :o:facepalm::raining:
From third nuclear power in the world, with all the resources and power to become a global player (and the support of Russia to become one in the first place) to a puppet and sacrificial pawn of the US government and the 'west' or "international community", with no way out...
There's a lesson here, if you can understand the sequence of events started 30 years ago
Mashika
13th June 2022, 09:19
The losers in a war, don't get to set the surrendering terms. Mister Stoltenberg.
I thought you went to school, and had any (at least) some basic kind of understanding of reality, but i probably was wrong
Mashika
13th June 2022, 10:00
The pieces are now being setup in real time. It's no longer a years/decades long game, it has become a blitz behind the scenes, but now it is opening up to public view
"Nicaragua authorizes Russian troops, planes, and ships on its territory. 2nd Cuban Missile Crisis."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TWxfl-jRcI
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Ravenlocke
13th June 2022, 14:31
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Ravenlocke
13th June 2022, 14:59
https://twitter.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1536357627625713665
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Ravenlocke
13th June 2022, 15:05
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1536342258512842754
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Ravenlocke
13th June 2022, 15:14
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1536354029722386432
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https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1536038553553092608
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Ravenlocke
13th June 2022, 15:23
https://twitter.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1536357627625713665
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https://dan-news.info/en/world/dpr-delegation-arrives-in-damascus-for-meeting-with-syrian-president/
DPR delegation arrives in Damascus for meeting with Syrian president
Donetsk, Jun 13 — DAN. A Donetsk People’s Republic delegation that includes parliamentarians has arrived in Syria on a working visit, DPR parliament deputy speaker Sergey Prokopenko said on Monday.
“It has a busy program; a meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad is ahead, ” Prokopenko wrote on his Telegram channel.
He posted a photo taken at Damascus Airport showing Russian State Duma deputy, member of the “United Russia” party Dmitry Sablin and head of the largest DPR parliament faction “Donetsk Republic” Valery Skorokhodov.
No other details of the visit were disclosed.
The DPR and Syria cooperate in the fields of economy, politics, education, culture etc. Last week, Culture Minister Mikhail Zheltyakov visited Syria where he met with his Syrian counterpart. The parties discussed ideas to develop cooperation including mutual artists’ tours opportunities.*jk
Ravenlocke
13th June 2022, 16:40
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1536373301685194752
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Ravenlocke
13th June 2022, 17:02
https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1536290926951284737
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-fears-defeat-in-east-without-surge-in-military-aid-11655092861?st=tacbsesxggle3eh&reflink=share_mobilewebshare
Ukraine Fears Defeat in East Without Surge in Military Aid
Russia advances in Donbas region as U.S., allies prepare to discuss new heavy-weapons supplies for Kyiv
The war in Ukraine has turned into a grinding artillery contest where Russia is steadily gaining ground thanks to its overwhelming advantage in firepower. As the U.S. and allies gather Wednesday to discuss fresh military aid to Kyiv, Ukraine’s fate will largely depend on how fast and in what quantities these heavy weapons arrive.
Without a broad and rapid increase in military assistance, Ukraine faces a defeat in the eastern Donbas region, Ukrainian officials warn. That would pave the way for Russia to pursue its offensive to Odessa and Kharkiv after regrouping in coming months, they say, and potentially all the way back to the capital, Kyiv, after that.
Western officials and analysts question whether Russia has the wherewithal to achieve this, even if it makes further gains in the Donbas area. They say Russia’s military has been severely battered in the war, and might lack the manpower and equipment to advance beyond the Donbas region soon.
Yet Russia still enjoys a significant superiority over Ukraine in artillery and armor. Ukrainian forces estimate that they have one artillery piece per 10 to 20 Russian ones on the front lines, with each of these guns allotted only a fraction of the ammunition at the Russian gunners’ disposal. As a result, every day that Western heavy-weapons supplies are delayed is measured in hundreds of Ukrainian casualties, they say.
While Kyiv was initially cagey about its losses, unwilling to dent the population’s morale, Ukraine’s government now acknowledges that the country’s military is losing between 100 and 200 soldiers killed in action each day, with about five times that number injured daily.
“In this war, the victory will be with the side that has more and better weapons. And, if Ukraine doesn’t obtain enough weapons in time, it will bleed out,” said Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Ukraine’s interior minister.
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin is slated to host the third Ukraine Contact Group conference of defense ministers and top military officers from North Atlantic Treaty Organization members and other allies and partners in Brussels on Wednesday, looking into how best to help the Ukrainian military at this stage of the war.
Spiral
13th June 2022, 17:10
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Mashika
13th June 2022, 23:23
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So it is official now, the Su-57 has been deployed in Ukraine
https://t.me/ZradaXXII/5430
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ExomatrixTV
14th June 2022, 10:14
Ukraine Should Admit Defeat NOW! ... Says Top U.S Military Leader to CFR (https://www.cfr.org/research-analysis) Zoom Meeting:
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Despite all the effusive praise the brave Ukrainian military has received in the western press, extolling all the humiliating defeats the Ukrainians have dealt the Russians, the reality on the ground appears to be entirely in Russia’s favor. And that reality was acknowledged on a recent Council of Foreign Relations Zoom call by retired lieutenant general and former deputy commander of United States European Command Stephen Twitty, who told the other neocons on the call that Ukraine simply cannot win this war and needs to sue for peace as soon as possible. Jimmy and The Dive’s Jackson Hinkle discuss the prospect of when and how the truth about how the war in Ukraine is proceeding will break through the western media blackout.
They’ll lose and we’ll have wasted $50+ billion over there. Makes you wonder whose pockets that money really ended up in…
It's not that Ukraine doesn't want to admit defeat, it's that the US government doesn't want it to do so! At the beginning of the war, there were a few talks when.they almost reach agreements, then US called to support Ukraine with more weapons and money, and Ukraine feels like it can do it! If Ukraine was on its own, the war had ended long ago with much less lost of lives and everything. It’s the US and NATO who encouraged Ukraine to commit suicide!
Ukraine is losing the war. We can see mass surrender and desertion. The most important thing is that Ukrainian professional army including elite Nazi units like Azov regiment suffered unsustainable losses and you can't do much with conscripts (most of them are really unwilling to fight for the regime). According to Guardian “…more than 20,000 casualties a month raises questions about what state Ukraine’s army will be in if the conflict drags on into the autumn. Ukraine is losing 2 to 3 brigade's a month at this rate. That's unsustainable.” Western supplies are a drop in the bucket taking into account the amount of already lost hardware. Without direct intervention of Polish or Romanian armies Ukrainian army will be done by the end of the year. 40+ billion in American weapons without even minimal oversight is mostly about corruption and kickbacks as usual. I suppose Ukraine is the second largest buyer of Hunter's art after China.
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
pounamuknight
14th June 2022, 19:39
A Tale of Lyudmila's Tall Tales
What does $10 million buy a failing proxy regime?
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A fancy Swiss chalet for a failed horror-fiction nerb
49101
https://twitter.com/TaranQ/status/1534611308003442689
Propogandist translated into Slava Ukrainian: Human Rights Ombudsman
Ravenlocke
14th June 2022, 23:01
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1536839354118721536
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gini
15th June 2022, 04:37
Serbia just SHOCKED everyone and the EU not happy about it | Redacted with Natali and Clayton Morr-- Jun 15, 2022 --9 min. The European Union says that it expects Serbia to sanction Russia and Serbia says it is not interested. Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić says that he does not see the difference between NATO's attack on Serbia and NATO's involvement in Ukraine and does not want to play Western politics.--ntJk0evhtkw
Mike Gorman
15th June 2022, 07:52
What a **** show eh? Absolute lies and hyperbole, wasted billions being re-directed into totally corrupt officials accounts, meanwhile the ordinary folks of Ukraine are seeing good treatment for the first time in decades from the well behaved, courteous Rusky troops, it seems only Russia cares about the people and puts its national hand in its pocket to feed and shelter them, offer them a new life and national credentials. Who needs NATO and the utterly devoid of morality western political world? I wish the Russians would hurry up and topple the Pentagon and get the world back into a sane path. Amen.
Vicus
15th June 2022, 13:30
Ukraine : misunderstandings and misunderstandings
The war in Ukraine is only taking place because of the ignorance of the Westerners of what was happening in Ukraine and because of a series of misunderstandings and misinterpretations. The Westerners, focused on themselves, unable to think like their interlocutors, kept making mistakes. Finally, when the military operations end and the Russians have achieved their publicly stated objectives from day one, they can even persuade themselves that they have won. In the end, the only thing that matters to the West is not saving human lives, but having the conviction that they are on the right side of history.
The war in Ukraine is interpreted very differently depending on whether one is Western or Russian. Each person’s previous experience conditions their interpretation of words and events. In fact, no one reacts to the same things and seeks the same information as the others. In the end, the two camps no longer have the same perception of reality. This succession of misunderstandings and misconceptions leads to a misunderstanding that can unintentionally lead to major conflict.
THE BANDERISTS
The two sides, who fought side by side against Nazism, had completely different experiences during this period and therefore have different memories of it.
The Russian press does not distinguish between Banderists and Nazis. It is a question of awakening the memory of the "Great Patriotic War" (known in the West as "World War II"). When Germany attacked Russia in June 1941, the latter was not at all ready. The shock was disastrous. Stalin only managed to unite his people by allying himself with the Orthodox Church, which he had previously fought, and by freeing his political opponents who had been sentenced to the Gulag. To evoke this period today is to commit oneself to recognizing the place of each person as long as he defends the Nation.
The Russians perceive the contemporary Banderists /Nazis as existential dangers to their people. In doing so, they are right because Ukrainian nationalists consider that they are "born to eradicate Muscovites".
Therefore, all Western attacks on the person of Vladimir Putin are out of place and ineffective. For Russian opponents, this is no longer the issue. Whether they like him or not, Putin is their leader, just as Stalin was from June 1941.
The Western press also equated the Banderists with the Nazis, but this was to put its importance more easily into perspective. In the memory of the people of Western Europe, Nazism threatened only minorities. First the mentally ill, the terminally ill and the old, then the Jews and the gypsies were separated from the pack and disappeared. On the contrary, the Slavs remember armies advancing, razing one by one all the villages they took. No one could survive. Not only is Nazism less frightening to Western Europeans, but the Anglo-Saxons are quietly suppressing symbols that might revive this memory. For example, British communications advisers changed the Azov regiment’s crest at the end of May. They replaced the wolf’s hook (Wolfsangel) associated with the SS Das Reich division with three trident swords evoking the Ukrainian National Republic (1917-20). In doing so, they removed a Nazi insignia and replaced it with an anti-Bolshevik insignia. In the Western European imagination, however, the Soviet Union is equated with Russia, ignoring the fact that the majority of Soviet leaders were not Russian.
British communication advisors assure that the Ukrainian Banderists/Nazis are comparable to the present-day Western Nazis: fringe groups of rabid people. They do not deny their existence, but suggest that they are not important. So they make disappear both the traces of their parliamentary and governmental activity since independence in 1991 and the images of the monuments to them that have since then been erected all over the country.
From 1991 to 2014, the world’s newspapers ignored the slow reformation of the Banderists in Ukraine. However, in February 2014, during the overthrow of elected president Viktor Yanukovych, all journalists covering the "Revolution of Dignity" were struck by the central role of far-right militias in the protests. The world’s media reported on these strange "nationalists" with swastikas. But the Western press abruptly stopped investigating a month later when Crimea, refusing to allow these extremists to take power, declared its independence. To continue to report on the drift of Ukraine would have been to give reason to the Russian Federation which had accepted its attachment. From then on and for 8 years, no Western media investigated, for example, the accusations of kidnapping and torture on a large scale that were spread throughout the country. Because they deliberately ignored the Banderists during this period, they are no longer able to assess their political and military role today.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217173.html
Vicus
15th June 2022, 14:00
Russia seizes 80% of Severodonetsk, will open humanitarian corridor
Wednesday, 15 June 2022 1:04 AM [ Last Update: Wednesday, 15 June 2022 2:25 AM ]
Russian forces have seized the greatest part of a strategic city in eastern Ukraine, a move that would mark an important step towards overrunning the heavily-contested Donbas region.
The forces were now in control of almost 80 percent of Severodonetsk, the governor of the Luhansk region, Sergiy Gaiday, told The Associated Press via telephone on Tuesday.
Together with Donetsk, Luhansk forms the Donbas, which has been the scene of a years-long conflict between pro-Russian separatists and Ukrainian forces.
Gaiday said Ukrainian forces had now been pushed to the industrial outskirts of Severodonetsk, adding that about 500 civilians were still sheltering in the Azot chemical plant.
“There is still an opportunity for the evacuation of the wounded, [as well as] communication with the Ukrainian military and local residents,” he said, noting that Russian soldiers had not yet completely blocked off the city.
After the capture of Severodonetsk, Russian forces are expected to take control of Slovyansk and Kramatorsk to capture the entire Donbas.
Russia to open humanitarian corridor for civilian evacuation from Azot plant
Meanwhile, Russia said Tuesday it will open a humanitarian corridor to allow civilians encircled in the Azot chemical plant to leave the area.
The Russian Defense Ministry said the civilians will be evacuated to the Luhansk region.
Mikhail Mizintsev, head of the Russian National Defense Control Center, said that Russian armed forces are ready to "carry out a humanitarian operation to evacuate civilians guided by humanitarian principles."
Mizintsev also urged Ukrainian armed forces to "stop any hostilities and release the civilians they are holding through this humanitarian corridor."
Ukrainian forces were suffering “painful” losses in the fight against Russian troops in the east as they awaited the delivery of the promised weapons, Zelenskiy said.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/06/15/683918/Russia-Ukraine-Severodonetsk
Vicus
15th June 2022, 14:06
MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE15 JUN, 06:42
Up to 1,200 civilians held at Azot plant in Severodonetsk — LPR
About 127 of them are children, an aide to the Lugansk People’s Republic’s interior minister said
"At present, between 1,000 and 1,200 civilians are held as hostages on the territory of Azot. They have been held there against their will, for quite a while. There is no water, no food, no medicines. About 127 of them are children," Vitaly Kiselev said.
In his words, the plant’s territory has underground bunkers and technical corridors, where civilians may be held.
Ukraine asked Russia on Tuesday to open a humanitarian corridor for the passage of civilians from the Azot plant to Lisichansk, a city it still controls. According to the aide to the Lugansk People’s Republic’s interior minister, the Ukrainian forces plan to leave Azot using civilians as a cover. In his estimates, about 2,500 people may be holed up in the Severodonetsk industrial zone, up to one quarter of them are foreign mercenaries.
The chief of Russia’s joint coordination center for humanitarian response in Ukraine, Mikhail Mizintsev said on Tuesday the Russian army and the Lugansk People’s Republic’s militia on Wednesday will open a humanitarian corridor towards Svatovo, in the LPR, for the evacuation of civilians from the Azot plant. The corridor will be open starting from 08:00 on June 15.
The Russian army and the LPR militia guarantee the safe evacuation of all civilians. Humanitarian convoys will take civilians to temporary accommodation centers.
https://tass.com/world/1464921?utm_source=rense.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rense.com&utm_referrer=rense.com
Ewan
15th June 2022, 17:32
The German government is fighting freedom of speech. I am a free journalist who covers the special operation in Ukraine. They are going to sentence me now to 3 years in prison for telling the truth.
https://t.me/ukr_leaks_eng/401
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shaberon
16th June 2022, 05:45
G8 is nothing, it is like me and Covid. No response and no effect. Just an observation of those who did not jump on the bandwagon of a new kind of garbage.
If it is any kind of "league", it was just made for them, by those who...make things like this, whatever, exactly, "this" is. I haven't found that part yet. What would you want to hide or protect more than a large number of biolaboratories?
We heard nothing about strange treasures inside Azovstal.
It might just be the banking system that is of interest.
Very apropos that a Serbian guy can just use living memory and say, oh, no, we don't want to give everything to NATO.
Some of those countries already have the momentum of BRICS in play. It seems to me that India and Brazil are going to share a problem that "their people" care more about money than they do those nations. And so they may well replay the "boom and bust" lifecycle of the United States. Russia sounds like it has more integrity. Over a period of many years it appears that they did pretty strongly "drain the swamp" as Trump said he wanted to--except what I saw were policy and asset changes and so on that really happened.
The handshake with Syria was also very appropriate.
These guys live with atrocities on a daily basis and they are talking about exchanging artists because so far their populations have refused to surrender their culture.
Here, right around the same day, there was a murder up the street, and someone I know was quite seriously attacked by some foreigners. We don't exactly have a culture and this is how it goes.
And so they are saying--may I borrow an arsenal, equivalent to what Russia has?
If we could just click the ruby slippers and grant that, they would still lose.
But we know--very well by now--that no matter what happens, all we have to do is "say something". It moves the fish to the window for a few seconds. Then use the equation "weapons in" x "all available conscripts aged 8-60" = "say something".
The ammunition supply appears perfectly valid for assaulting civilian areas of Donetsk. That is very bad if they have got a MLRS in range since nothing will stop it. I would expect something like that would be tracked and traced in a matter of days, but that helps nobody who already got a ticket.
I am not sure how that kind of targeting can be seen as a fit use of resources, it just seems to be the one thing they are consistently good at.
Spiral
16th June 2022, 06:24
Utterly shocking if anything like true...
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Spiral
16th June 2022, 16:58
The Russian MD now have an English Language telegram channel which they are using to release information free from MSM censure & spin, the details on the US funded Labs is indeed shocking & requires further investigation as it also ties in to possible covert biological war waged on various Countries & peoples .
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https://telegra.ph/Briefing-on-the-results-of-analysing-documents-related-to-the-military-biological-activity-of-the-USA-in-Ukraine-June-16-2022-06-16
There is much more than this....
Vicus
16th June 2022, 18:53
US reacts to reported capture of American fighters in Ukraine
Washington will “do everything” to get them home if the reports prove true, top US official has said
The US is monitoring media reports that have claimed that two American nationals have been captured in Ukraine while fighting for the Kiev side. US State Department spokesman Ned Price said on Wednesday that Washington will do everything possible to secure their release, if the reports are found to be true.
The two Americans, identified as military veterans Alexander Drueke and Andy Huynh by the Daily Telegraph on Thursday, had reportedly been taken prisoner near the city of Kharkov last week. The British newspaper described them as apparently being the first American citizens captured while fighting for Ukraine, and the whole issue as diplomatically sensitive.
Washington has neither confirmed nor denied the capture. John Kirby, the former Pentagon spokesman who now serves as US National Security Council coordinator for Strategic Communications, pledged to use Washington's leverage to secure their release, if the reported capture is confirmed.
“If it’s true, we’ll do everything we can to get them safely back home,” he said, during a press conference in the White House.
The official added that the Biden administration discouraged Americans from going to Ukraine and joining Kiev’s troops.
“It is a war zone,” he said. “And if you feel passionate about supporting Ukraine, there’s any number of other ways to do that that are safer and just as effective.”
The Telegraph said the two men had gone missing during combat last Thursday in the village of Izbitskoe and were apparently captured. The community is located less than ten kilometers from the border with Russia.
The report was based on the account of another foreign fighter from the same unit of the Ukrainian army. The unnamed source insisted that he and his comrades were not mercenaries and claimed he wanted the public to know the story to reduce “the chances of them being quietly executed by whoever is holding them further down the chain.” The same source has apparently talked to other Western media outlets, inlcuding CNN.
According to media reports, Drueke is a 39-year-old from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. He signed up with the US Army after 9/11 and held the rank of staff sergeant while serving in Iraq. His mother told The Telegraph that he suffered from PTSD.
Huynh is a 27-year-old from Hartselle, Alabama, who had previously served for four years in the US Marines but had no combat experience before going to Ukraine. He got engaged in March before traveling to Europe.
Last week, the Russia-allied Donetsk People’s Republic sentenced to death three foreign fighters, including two Britons, who’d been captured during the battle for Mariupol. The republic’s top court ruled that they were mercenaries and thus not granted privileges that regular prisoners of war would enjoy under international law. Western nations condemned the sentence.
https://www.rt.com/news/557244-american-fighters-captured-ukraine/
ExomatrixTV
16th June 2022, 19:24
Director Warns $40B Weapons Shipped To Ukraine Could Be Used By "Criminal Groups" For Years:
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Vicus
16th June 2022, 21:29
West is yet to face the worst in confronting Russia - Moscow
The US is taking hostile steps against Russia that are worse than during the Cold War, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has determined. However, Washington is hurting itself in the process and will ultimately have to acknowledge Moscow's legitimate interests, he said, during an interview with Russian media on Thursday.
Explaining the economic damage stemming from West versus Russia confrontation, Peskov told news agency RIA Novosti:
"We are not even close to the culmination of the crisis. Or rather they have not. We are in a more stable state thanks to macroeconomic measures taken by the government."
Peskov believes the current amount of pressure against Russia is unprecedented. Nothing of the kind was done "even during the Cold War" or to any other nation on Earth he said. The US and its allies seek to "strangle" Russia with their restrictions, he added.
"The anti-Russian sanctions are obviously creating problems for us, but in the long run they will cause problems just as serious for the nations who adopt those sanctions. Europeans have felt it more than the Americans did so far, but the economic burden of antagonizing Russia will increase for all of them."
He stressed that the problems were only partially explained by the Ukraine crisis and that Western leaders contributed to them by making a series of mistakes over the past several years.
The current state of affairs has made it impossible for Russia and the West to return to business as usual, the official said, adding that from now on Moscow will use a more robust approach towards the US.
Russia has all the reasons it could need to completely break diplomatic ties with the US after all Washington had done, but will not do so:
"The US is not going anywhere, and we'll have to live with that. While preserving flexibility on constructive issues, we will protect our interests and demand [that the US] respect our concerns and interests. There will be communication in some form."
Peskov said the only chance for a detente could come if Washington abandoned its "hegemonic policy in world affairs."
"Russia does not want to, cannot be and has no intention of becoming anyone's vassal in any sense of the word. When [the US recognizes] that it can only talk with Russia based on mutual benefit and mutual respect, the time will come to plan further contacts."
https://www.sott.net/article/468824-West-is-yet-to-face-the-worst-in-confronting-Russia-Moscow
Vicus
16th June 2022, 21:38
Ukrainian troops thwart humanitarian corridor - LPR
Ukrainian soldiers holed up at the Azot chemical plant in Severodonetsk have foiled the evacuation of civilians through a humanitarian corridor provided by Russia, a military commander from the People's Republic of Lugansk (LPR) has said.
Aleksandr Nikishin, of the LPR's second army corps, told journalists:
"The evacuation of civilians from Azot has been completely thwarted by the opposing side. One person - a 74-year-old man - has gotten out of the plant."
It happened before 8am local time when the Russian humanitarian corridor was to become operational. The man walked out "by accident" as he was unaware of the planned evacuation, saying that Ukrainian troops hadn't informed the civilians inside about it, Nikishin claimed. And at around 8:10am Kiev's forces at the plant began firing at Russian positions from a tank, a howitzer and a mortar.
"The evacuation of people is impossible under such circumstances and a decision was made to close the humanitarian corridor."
According to the commander, talks with the Ukrainian military will continue to make sure that some 1,500 civilians at the plant are moved to safety.
Ukrainian troops retreated to the Azot chemical plant a week ago after the strategic city of Severodonetsk had fallen under Russian control. Moscow insisted that non-combatants had been forced into the facility to be used as human shields.
On Tuesday, the Russian military said that Kiev had asked Moscow to provide safe passage for civilians at the plant to the Ukrainian-controlled city of Lisichansk on the other side of the Seversky Donets River. The plan was rejected on the basis that all bridges connecting Severodonetsk to Lisichansk had been destroyed. The Russian side also expressed concerns that Ukrainian fighters could use the evacuation as cover-up for their own escape.
Instead, Moscow offered to open a humanitarian corridor towards the town of Svatovo, which is controlled by the Lugansk People's Republic (LPR), on Wednesday.
https://www.sott.net/article/468823-Ukrainian-troops-thwart-humanitarian-corridor-LPR
Simon Sparx
17th June 2022, 02:11
I'm a big fan of this channel "The New Atlas"
Good stuff.
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Johnnycomelately
17th June 2022, 02:52
I'm a big fan of this channel "The New Atlas"
Good stuff.
K8yamGbFsEQ
Hey Simon. About your in-post avatar gif, I never saw that movie and I don’t get it. I haven’t liked his dismissive facial expressions and condemnatory body language, in the last week, but now I notice his beard is crooked and he has boobs.
This ain’t a spiritual or wise post, so I guess I’m tryin’ to be nice. Ergo, want to learn and empathize. So please tell that story! ~8)
Mashika
17th June 2022, 05:02
Only two sacks of potatoes.. no mushrooms, carrots, onions or pickles? I guess they will have to scavenge around... "Karma" :p:ROFL:
Ukrainian soldiers abandoned by commanders with no food or weapons
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Mashika
17th June 2022, 05:06
The hypocrisy... :ROFL::thumbsup::wizard:
And now the Nicaraguan government has turned into a "regime" :) :facepalm:
Russian troops + military installations deployed in Central America in July. US calls it provocation
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Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 12:40
https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/status/1537760431586025472
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https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1537748931232292865
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Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 12:52
https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1537749452286529538
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https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1537749734047326209
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https://twitter.com/ILRUSSO1/status/1537758953320370176
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https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1537750985417932805
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kfm27917
17th June 2022, 13:18
interesting advertisement:
Employer is a US-based corporation seeking multiple Extraction / Protective Agents and teams to conduct part-time, covert, extraction / evacuation operations of individuals and families throughout the countryside and major cities of Ukraine
https://silentprofessionals.org/jobs/extraction-protective-agents-ukraine/
Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 13:26
https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1537782836086063104
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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1537797598362337283
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Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 13:37
https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1537749338528415744
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1537777621143941120
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Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 14:01
https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1537589497310826496
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Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 14:26
https://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1537677004736282624
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Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 14:41
https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1537780302764032000
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https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/status/1537755680458801155
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Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 18:03
From Moon Of Alabama,
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-the-us-is-on-the-road-towards-escalation.html
June 17, 2022
Ukraine - The U.S. Is Moving Towards Escalation
The catastrophic economic consequences of the 'western' proxy war with Russia are setting in. As a result the high inflation, caused by supply side constrains due to sanctions and a far too much spending, will ruin the middle classes of many countries.
To those who did not wear blinders and who knew of the real economies of the 'west' and Russia this was very predictable and predicted:
The U.S. is pushing its European 'allies' to commit economic suicide by sanctioning everything Russia. The U.S. should be more careful. It is one of the biggest buyers of Russian oil and its aircraft industry depends on titanium from Russia. Russia surely knows who is trying to hurt it the most and it surely knows how, and has the means to, hurt back.
The hurt has not at all reached its peak. This winter will be very difficult for Europe. Poor countries are even worse off. Many will experience hunger crises and riots.
Today the Russian president Vladimir Putin held a speech at the Petersburg economic forum. The transcript isn't out yet but here are excerpts from a Twitter thread:
The Eurasianist @Russ_Warrior - 12:58 UTC · Jun 17, 2022
⚡President Putin at #SPIEF2022: "The United States, having declared victory in the Cold War, declared themselves the messengers of God on earth, who have no obligations, but only interests. They seem not to notice that new powerful centers have formed on the planet"
Putin at #SPIEF2022: "The changes in the world are fundamental, pivotal and inexorable. And it is a mistake to believe that you can sit out at the time of rapid changes, wait out that supposedly everything will return to normal, everything will be as before. It won't!"
"There will be a deep degradation in Europe, current elites are going to be replaced" — President Putin at #SPIEF2022 "Their wrong policies will lead to an increase in nationalist and extremist sentiments in European society."
"The world was systematically driven into a huge global crisis by the countries of the so-called "G7" — President Putin at #SPIEF2022.
"The EU has totally lost its political sovereignty, its elites are dancing to someone else's tune, causing harm to their own population"
❗"Hunger in the poorest countries will be on the conscience of the West and the so-called European democracies" - President Putin at #SPIEF2022
"This problem has not arisen today, not in the last 3-4 months, and it is not #Russia's fault. We would be pleased to be so omnipotent. The situation has been getting worse for years, due to activities of those who planned to break trade flows," President Putin stressed
❗"Everyone who wants to continue to work/cooperate with Russia is being threatened by the United States" - President #Putin "However, this shows if real leaders are at the helm of a country or not", the president stressed.
"Russia is entering the coming era as a powerful sovereign country and only strong sovereign states can have their say in the emerging world order, or are doomed to remain or become a colony," President Putin concluded his speech at #SPIEF2022
Every word of that is true. Maybe Putin reads Moon of Alabama as I have made many of those points again and again.
It will not only be the current elite of Europe that will be replaced. The U.S. will see similar changes. Biden and the Democrats are toast:
The survey of 1,541 U.S. adults, which was conducted from June 10-13, found that if another presidential election were held today, more registered voters say they would cast ballots for Donald Trump (44%) than for Biden (42%) ...
Since Biden took office, no previous Yahoo News/YouGov poll has shown him trailing Trump (though Biden’s most recent leads have been within the margin of error, like this one is for Trump). One year ago, Biden led Trump by 9 percentage points. In 2020, Biden won the White House by more than 7 million votes.
Yet Biden’s job approval rating has been atrophying for much of the last year, and the new survey shows that it has never been weaker. A full 56% of Americans now disapprove of the president’s performance — the highest share to date — while just 39% approve. Three weeks ago, those numbers were 53% and 42%, respectively.
On average, Biden’s job approval scores are now a few points worse than Trump’s were at the parallel stage of his presidency.
Among all Americans, Trump (43%) now has a higher personal favorability rating than Biden (40%) as well. Meanwhile, nearly two-thirds of independents (64%) have an unfavorable opinion of Biden, and just 28% say they would vote for him over Trump.
At Asia Times David Goldman sees signs of Biden changing course on Ukraine:
A compromise in Ukraine with significant territorial concessions to Russia – the only conceivable way to end the war – would humiliate Washington.
A negotiated solution to the Ukraine war, though, is not impossible. Washington could continue to portray itself as the defender of Ukraine’s sovereignty while encouraging European leaders to do the dirty work and force Ukraine into negotiations with Moscow.
A possible hint in this direction came on June 14 from the US Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Colin H. Kahl, who declared: “We’re not going to tell the Ukrainians how to negotiate, what to negotiate and when to negotiate. They’re going to set those terms for themselves.”
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The United States won’t tell Ukraine what to do, Undersecretary Kahl declared. But that doesn’t prevent other governments from making Zelensky an offer he can’t refuse. Zelensky adviser Oleksiy Arestovych told Germany’s Bild-Zeitung on June 16 that German Chancellor Scholz, French President Macron and Italian President Draghi might deliver such a demand to Zelensky during their current visit to Kyiv.
I hope that they did so. But today, without any announcement, the British prime minister Boris Johnson, undoubtedly on order of Biden, appeared in Kiev to lobby for more war just like he did at the end of March when he told Ukraine's president Zelensky to ditch the negotiations with Russia.
That is why I fear that Michael Brenner is right and that Biden will escalate the war by attacking somewhere else:
Necessity is the mother of invention — or so it is said. However, grasping what is “necessary” can be a very slippery business. An actual recasting of how one views a problematic situation normally is a last resort. Experience and history tell us that, as do behavioral experiments.
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So, you are stuck with the albatross of a truncated, bankrupt Ukraine hung around your neck. There is nothing that you can do to cancel these givens — except a direct, perhaps suicidal test of force with Russia. Or, perhaps, a retaliatory challenge elsewhere. The latter is not readily available — for geographic reasons and because the West already has expended its arsenal of economic and political weaponry.
Over the past year, the U.S. attempted to foment Maiden style regime changes in Belarus and Kazakhstan. Both were foiled. The latter was with the connivance of Turkey, which deployed a contingent of bashi bazouks from the stock of Syrian jihadis it keeps on call in Idlib (to be deployed as President Recep Erdogan did more successfully in Libya and Azerbaijan).
There remains one conceivable sensitive target: Syria. There, the Israelis have become increasingly audacious in goading the Russians by airstrikes against Syrian infrastructure as well as military facilities.
Now, we see signs that Moscow’s tolerance is wearing thin, suggesting that further provocations could spark retaliation which Washington then could exploit to ratchet up tensions. To what avail? Not obvious — unless the ultras in the Biden administration are looking for the kind of direct confrontation that they’ve avoided in Ukraine, until now.
The implication is that the denial option and the incremental adjustment option are foreclosed. Serious rethinking is in order — logically speaking.
The most worrisome scenario sees the frustration and anger and anxiety building in Washington to the point where it encourages a reckless impulse to demonstrate American prowess. That could take the form of an attack on Iran in the company of Israel and Saudi Arabia — the region’s new odd couple.
Another, even grimmer prospect would be a contrived test of wills with China. Already we see growing evidence of that in the bellicose rhetoric of American leaders from U.S. President Joe Biden on down.
The Pentagon is not ready for a war on China. Iran is too strong and would respond to an attack by launching its huge missile arsenal on Israel and U.S. allies in the Gulf. This leaves Syria. It is unlikely by chance that the Wall Street Journal reported yesterday that the U.S. is coordinating Israeli airstrikes in that country:
WASHINGTON—Israel secretly coordinates with the U.S. on many of the airstrikes it carries out in Syria as the allies face a battlefield crowded with militant groups, Iranian-backed militias and foreign militaries, according to current and former U.S. officials.
I expect those airstrikes, like last week's attack on the airport of Damascus, to intensify with the hope to divert Russian attention from Ukraine.
Russia is of course 100% prepared for that but U.S. miscalculations that led to this are many and I do not expect that tendency to change anytime soon.
In his latest talk about The causes and consequences of the Ukraine war (vid) John Mearsheimer also speaks of why he thinks that an escalation is likely, and what the potential results might be. Without the Q&A it is only one hour long and well worth your time.
Ravenlocke
17th June 2022, 18:39
https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1537742019187167233
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https://twitter.com/CzechPremysl/status/1537739718162522113
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Kryztian
17th June 2022, 20:51
From: "Turkey Rains on NATO’s Parade" by Scott Ritter
June 14, 2022
The article begins discussing how Finland and Sweden, long considered neutral countries, are "happily" joining NATO, however, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogon has a plan to upset the whole process. From: https://libya360.wordpress.com/2022/06/14/turkey-rains-on-natos-parade/
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Enter Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who decided he would crash Stoltenberg’s scripted moment. Not all NATO members were in accordance with the bid by Finland and Sweden to join the alliance. Since NATO is a consensus-driven organization, all it takes to ruin this made-for-TV moment was one disaffected member. That member was Turkey.
“As all NATO allies accept Turkey’s critical importance to the alliance,” Erdogan wrote in a guest essay he penned for The Economist on May 30,
“it is unfortunate that some members fail fully to appreciate certain threats to our country. Turkey maintains that the admission of Sweden and Finland entails risks forits own security and the organization’s future. We have every right to expect those countries, which will expect NATO’s second-largest army to come to their defense under Article 5, to prevent the recruitment, fundraising and propaganda activities of the PKK [the Kurdish People’s Party], which the European Union and America consider a terrorist entity.”
Erdogan called for the extradition from Sweden of “members of terrorist organizations” as a pre-condition for Turkey considering its application for NATO membership. Erdogan also demanded that both Sweden and Finland end their respective arms embargoes against Turkey, imposed in 2019 in response to Turkey’s incursion into northern Syria that targeted Kurdish groups affiliated with the PKK.
“Turkey stresses that all forms of arms embargoes — such as the one Sweden has imposed on my country — are incompatible with the spirit of military partnership under the NATO umbrella. Such restrictions not only undermine our national security but also damage NATO’s own identity.”
As things stand, neither Finland nor Sweden appears prepared to accede to Erdogan’s demands. Despite high-level meetings between delegations from both Finland and Sweden with Turkish officials, no headway appears to have been made.
According to Fahrettin Altun, an adviser to Erdogan, neither Finland nor Sweden have put anything discernable on the table. Turkey, Altun told a Swedish newspaper, needs more than just words. “It is not right that Finland and Sweden waste NATO’s time at this critical moment,” Altun declared.
Complicating matters further is the fact that Turkey appears to be on the cusp of launching a major military operation into northern Syria specifically targeting the very Kurdish group — the People’s Protection Units, or YPG — that Erdogan accuses both Finland and Sweden of supporting.
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Full article at : https://libya360.wordpress.com/2022/06/14/turkey-rains-on-natos-parade/
shaberon
18th June 2022, 04:48
While we just...don't go into the details...of something that has seen hundreds KIA every day, since, April? Pretty sure we posted that well over a month ago. Somebody flipped a switch and we saw "a few" anti-personnel attacks turn into hundreds on a daily basis. We understand human liquidation, right...I mean most of the confessions are aware about this, aren't they? Doesn't seem like a big secret that lives are tossed in the trash as a course of business.
Chances are, that if you can read this, your government only wants you for your money. It hates you.
Exactly how long anyone can cover their eyes in the wake of its desires being gone (https://tass.com/politics/1467581):
ST. PETERSBURG, June 17. /TASS/. Taking the podium at the plenary session of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF) on Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said the era of a unipolar world order has come to an end despite attempts to preserve it at all costs.
"A year and a half ago, when speaking at the Davos Forum, it was stressed again that the era of the unipolar world order was over," the Russian head of state said, noting that now he also would like to begin his address with this, "there is no getting around this."
"[This era] is over despite all the attempts to revive it and hold on to it at any cost. This is a natural process, these changes are a natural course of history because it is difficult to combine the planet’s civilizational diversity, the wealth of cultures with political, economic and other models. These models don’t work here, the models that bluntly, without any alternatives, are being imposed upon from one center," the Russian leader added.
So, you can rewind a couple of years, pretend you didn't create a G8 by exclusion, and so on, whatever.
The inability of our public speakers to catch up here, is embarrassing.
It is a bit ironic that "The NWO" already has not been, for a period of time, yet there are those who would assure us this must be a mistake. Whatever.
This is what is happening in the direction of your deported non-elite Ukrainians, back in the never-ending Heart of Darkness (https://sputniknews.com/20220617/dr-congo-says-rwanda-will-have-a-war-if-it-wants-one-severs-all-bilateral-agreements-1096421084.html):
DR Congo Says Rwanda ‘Will Have a War’ If It Wants One, Severs All Bilateral Agreements
They are also wanting to deploy an east African corps in venture with something I was not aware anyone was paying for:
...in close coordination with MONUSCO, the 14,000-strong United Nations peacekeeping force in the eastern Congo.
That's Brussels's previous work, isn't it?
Thanks for all the social engineering so that places like Ukraine and Congo now have much more advanced weaponry compared to what was going on 400 years ago.
Now there are a few places who really are contenders of grand conflicts that are all about that same age. Where they stand is:
Indonesia -- who knows
Congo -- nothing new
Ukraine -- possibly something done about it by Russia
Ireland -- resolved by bombing banks in The City
Anyone can review those from the 1600s on up, and try to tell me it is not social engineering and capitalists wars and insurgencies. It would be very shocking if anything else was the case.
I still have not heard of high level suicides, but, I bet someone with "acumen" might be able to find a legitimate statistic showing "rats abandoning the ship" of American investors/investment or something similar in other countries. What about businesses that are themselves impacted by anti-Russia sanctions? I don't remember anything about that being important.
Bye-bye, eastern front, or whatever exactly it is called. Soon you will just be a few pockets of resistance. I would say it is not a particularly good idea, but, no one has been consulting me on any of this. It is, as far as I know, a bad idea that makes a lot of statistics.
Bill Ryan
18th June 2022, 14:42
Very interesting mercenary statistics, reported by the Russian Foreign Ministry. They state that they track every mercenary that enters Ukraine.
The numbers apparently include not only fighters, but also those in the country to train Ukrainian fighters, or to assist in repairing equipment.
Total: 6,956. 1,956 died, 1,779 left Ukraine.
1. Poland: 1,831. 378 died, 272 left Ukraine.
2. Canada: 601. 162 died, 169 left Ukraine.
3. US: 530. 214 died, 227 left Ukraine.
4. Romania: 504. 102 died, 98 left Ukraine.
5. UK: 422. 101 died, 95 left Ukraine.
6. Georgia: 355. 120 died, 90 left Ukraine.
It wasn't stated how many mercenaries have been captured, some of whom (presumably) are now facing execution.
I ran the math. What was interesting there is the numbers of mercenaries from the US who were killed (40%) or left Ukraine (43%). There's barely any of them left: just 90 of them, a mere 17%.
In contrast, the Poles appear to be the most determined to stay and fight (only 15% left), while only 21% of them have been killed.
Of the total, just over half (54%) are no longer active (i.e. killed or left).
My source for the numbers: this new video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_MMUuM00lI) by Alex Christoforou. The original announcement should be quite easy to find.
Michi
18th June 2022, 21:34
The German Chancellor Olaf Scholz appears to be justifying non-fulfilled promised weapon delivery to the Ukraine but he lacks "having the balls" to put an end to it.
https://www.politico.eu/article/scholz-defend-germany-weapon-supplies-ukraine-talk-putin/
Interestingly multiple open letters adressed to Olaf, urging him to cease weapon delivery.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/public-opinion-crumbles-over-german-war-support-to-ukraine/
Fun fact: German public busses wear a banner (when idle) saying "Stop the war".
Duh! :facepalm:How do you stop a war by feeding ammunition?!
Mashika
19th June 2022, 02:49
See this? I'm not the only one seeing this behavior and poor performance. And this is why i don't understand how Scott Ritter came up with the idea that Ukraine has the strongest and most professional army in Europe, and that it could easily take out a country like Germany. Just, how?
https://t.me/ZradaXXII/5938
ZradaXXII/5938
It makes me thing that Scott Ritter, for all he has going, is looking at this from some kind of exceptionalism bubble that hides the reality of the 'on the ground' situation from him. Is he looking at stats and reports + performance reviews of limited groups that are nowhere near the war zone, maybe?
No joke, but just a few days ago, a Russian recon group met in the field an Ukrainian patrol, they pretended to be Ukrainians disguised as Russian soldiers trying to infiltrate the other side, they talked in Ukrainian to the ukros and finally they continued walking as if nothing was wrong, no one shot at them. Either the ukros did not realize they were had, or they decided to simply pretend they fell for it and avoid the fight :)
In both cases, they clearly were not in any way capable of being pros, so they were lost later once the recon group went back and reported their location, they were shelled out of this planet soon after
So I don't get it, honestly. All i see all over the place is lack of training, poor performance, lack of experience and plenty more bad stuff going on. And more people are constantly coming up with reports of the exact same thing
Mashika
19th June 2022, 04:20
Domo arigato, Mr. UkroNATO
https://t.me/asbmil/2228
asbmil/2228
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Those can be hacked, then taken over and then will be landed on Russian territory, at which point they will be reversed engineered, then whatever advanced tech they had is obsolete in a direct war with Russia
https://t.me/asbmil/2253
asbmil/2253
The above is also true for most other tech the US has right now, if delivered to Ukraine, it will most likely fall into Russian engineers hands at some point :highfive:
The US would not be able to replace/update the tech so fast as to not fall behind even more in terms of advanced tech on the battle field, so they have to think carefully what and until when they can support Ukraine before they start giving away the most precious stuff they have, and truly/hard think about if they can do that and risk it all for nothing
Mike Gorman
19th June 2022, 04:48
The German Chancellor Olaf Scholz appears to be justifying non-fulfilled promised weapon delivery to the Ukraine but he lacks "having the balls" to put an end to it.
https://www.politico.eu/article/scholz-defend-germany-weapon-supplies-ukraine-talk-putin/
Interestingly multiple open letters adressed to Olaf, urging him to cease weapon delivery.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/public-opinion-crumbles-over-german-war-support-to-ukraine/
Fun fact: German public busses wear a banner (when idle) saying "Stop the war".
Duh! :facepalm:How do you stop a war by feeding ammunition?!
You have isolated the key point here, if you will forgive my tone, there is such blatant hypocrisy from the western players, we really have abandoned any valid claims to the moral high ground: billions being poured into 'The War', it really is Orwellian in the truest sense. There is very little good will to stop the war, they seem intent on bringing it to the maximum conclusion: suicidal, intentional destruction for the elite to take shelter underground while the surface is 'cleaned' of the useless eaters? Whichever way you look, there is a pathological element which is not healthy at all at work here. (I know I am stating the obvious, forgive me)
shaberon
19th June 2022, 05:18
I guess this is a sign that the UK government hates you if you live there, since the PM skipped a Tory gathering (https://sputniknews.com/20220618/bojos-allies-slam-conspiracy-bs-as-tory-pms-decry-snub-of-red-wall-talks-over-kiev-visit-1096424933.html), apparently alienating:
The “red wall” (also known as Labour's heartlands) is a term used to describe constituencies in England and Wales - mainly in the Midlands, Northern England and North-East Wales - which historically tended to support the Labour Party, which is denoted by the colour red.
in order to visit Kiev:
In response, Downing Street said Johnson met with Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kiev to offer a major training programme for Ukrainian forces "to help sustain their heroic defence".
I don't live there, and, it sounds like they hate me, and, it looks like plans in action to get as many Ukrainians killed as possible.
If the UK government is not considered an "existential threat", I'm not sure what is.
Mashika
19th June 2022, 05:30
:muscle:
https://t.me/ZradaXXII/5957
ZradaXXII/5957
Mashika
19th June 2022, 07:40
Are all politicians in the US 10 year old kids? I'm starting to believe that joke about the 3 kids stacked over each other in a trench coat is very much reality right now
"I fell from my bike, as a lot of people do at some point", but let me show you that i'm still good enough to be the 'Leader of the free world" by acting like a 10 year old that has to prove he still has it somehow
Jebus...
https://t.me/sputniknewsus/15545
sputniknewsus/15545
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Why is this so embarrassing? It's like watching a comedy show by now. Everything has to be a show of keeping face, everything has to be "i'm very cool" and acted and fake, but it's all about how people see you and not what you do, and the idiotic crowd yelling makes it even worse
It's the "Applause" sign behind the cameras on Tv shows so the people act their part (seals clapping in the aquarium)
https://c.tenor.com/vvUBMkuJx8AAAAAC/add-ard.gif
Ewan
19th June 2022, 08:31
Alina Lipp, interviewed by Serbian colleague Miodrag Zarkovic.
ukr_leaks_eng/411
Part 2
ukr_leaks_eng/413
Mashika
19th June 2022, 09:15
Fake soldiers fighting fake wars come to Donbass, then they think they will be 'glorious', then they find out how true war is like and they go back home because "there were not enough support or this or that"
Grown up kids are still kids, just older in looks. This is not the movie you were thinking about, moron. You don't have a clue what you will face around here, but you will learn soon enough, just like the others. Dumb dumb
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/11416
DonbassDevushka/11416
Stay at home, innocent 30 year old kids.
This is not the war you think you are going to
Mashika
19th June 2022, 11:26
Another instance of mediocrity, lack of careness, lack of professionalism :bigsmile::facepalm:
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A pair of Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force attacked the positions of their units near the village of Shirokoe, Dnepropetrovsk region.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/11419
DonbassDevushka/11419
Mashika
19th June 2022, 11:36
For future 'i'll be a hero' western soldiers, understand this, you come to Donbass to die, no one will remember you, if ever you will be a small quote somewhere on a random 'no-one-reads' website and forgotten by all but your most direct family
Stop being stupid, this is not the war on Iraq or related places, this is a real war against a very real army. Here you will die the most horrible death and you will be sent home like a roasted chicken, if you are found at all in the first place. This is a real war, and you will die, because you are not prepared for it, you are not ready for it, you are a dumb kid who has never seen pain the way we see it, and who does not understand how things truly are in this world because you were sheltered away from them in your entire life!
This is not a game, or a time to be a hero just because everyone else is saying 'we should go there'. Stop being an idiot, remain at home and make your country a better place, keep safe and stop the madness!
You don't have an idea how far behind you are in this 'war' game. No you are not strong, you think you are, but you are not, you are a unable to understand the pain and suffering that goes on here, you are thinking you can overcome everything because you are 'different' but you aren't. Stop being an idiot, your parents will miss you, your friends will do, your sister or brother will do too, and you will be gone because you are a fool thinking you are indestructible because you are 'exceptional', you are not, you dumb dumb. You are not, stay home fool, you don't belong here, you are not prepared for this
Stop trusting idiots, stay home Don't you see reality? Looook, there is nothing glorious or heroic about this, it's plain stupidity.
Already understand that you are not prepared, even if you are top of the line in your team. You were trained to be fighting somewhere else, in the middle east, not against a real modern army.
Think fast and think smart, survive and lead your family and country into a better future, stop being an idiot already. There is no glory in this, only stupidity.
This is not your war
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/11392
DonbassDevushka/11392
I'm sorry for this, but guys reading need to get it already, this is not what they think it is, they are being lied, this is a run for death only, they have no idea and they need to get it once and for all
pounamuknight
19th June 2022, 11:45
The empire flexes
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https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1538472694554968065
Double tap in the imperial nuts & bolts :facepalm:
ExomatrixTV
19th June 2022, 11:45
European Politician Drops Truth Bombs About Ukraine War
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Clare Daly, from Dublin, Ireland, is frequently a lone voice of conscience in the European Parliament, excoriating her neoliberal colleagues to pursue diplomacy over war and to consider the impact decisions they make have on everyday people in Europe and across the globe. In her latest philippic, Daly demanded that the Parliament consider following up on overtures by Italian, German and French leaders in aggressively pursuing peace in Ukraine as the threat of a global food shortage looms. Jimmy and American comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the inevitable conclusion to the Ukraine War and just how much global damage will ensue before the violence ends.
Mashika
19th June 2022, 12:04
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Mashika
19th June 2022, 12:28
"Codename Spartacus" joined in 2014
"Codename" lol, and now they call it "Call sign" or similar, why do i feel so old? lmao! Oh the old names :P
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6134
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6134
Did i became ancient history? oh noooooo lmfao!
Anyway, this is me, I'm Volunteer Nashi Captain Mariya Alisa, code name "Mashika"
Code name... oh!... :facepalm:
ExomatrixTV
19th June 2022, 13:03
Ukrainian troops, which continue to lose and flee to Russian forces at each point, are attacking properly in the city of Donetsk, where they are all citizens.
Every day, such violent attacks are reported by "support weapons" from the United States and NATO.
Russia's anger grows stronger every day because of such an attack on destitute citizens. The U.S. has for one said that it will "send aid weapons, but not use them on Russian territory," but when you believe such a pathological liar, it's clear that the responsibility lies on the one who sent the aid weapons.
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Ukrainian troops have updated the record for the most aggressive attacks against the city of Donetsk in this eight-year war. More than 400 bullets were reportedly fired from Ukrainian territory on the streets of Donetsk.
Severe shelling took place in the center of Donetsk and other parts of the city at around 7:30 am yesterday on the 18th. Me and my team headed to the same area after reports of gunshots in Kuibyshevsky district of Donetsk around 9:30. Shocking continued after arrival, and we continued filming the attack for 90 minutes, carefully avoiding the attacks pouring into this residential area.
At least eight apartments, an electronics plant, a farmer-run market and three small stores were damaged. Stumbled upon a group of people repeating their tears to look for their friend's body after the Ukraine stormed the market (hopefully alive).
As I approached, an elderly man collapsed during the search, I helped him up and joined their search. The other two were not found. I pray they are alive.
It is reported that one civilian was killed, one injured and two were missing in the shooting. There are many other places in Donetsk that were severely hit throughout the day, and this is just one of them.
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source (https://www.facebook.com/Plnewstoday/videos/736966404384951)
Again the Ukraine forces set another record of the heaviest attacks on the city of Donetsk, in all 8 years of this war, with a purportedly over 400 artillery shells fired on the streets of Donetsk from Ukrainian held territory. At about 7:30 am yesterday the 18th intense shelling went on the city of Donetsk In the center and other regions. At about 9:30 My team and I went to the Kuibyshevsky district of Donetsk after hearing reports of shelling there. After arriving the shelling continued and we spent the next 90 min carefully avoiding shelling as it rained down on this residential area so we could document the attack. While there and in this report we documented and saw with our own eyes impacts and damage to at least 8 apartment buildings, an Electronic equipment factory, a farmers market, and 3 small stores. We came across a group of people digging through debris to find their friend's bodies( hopefully alive) after Ukraine shelled a market. As I came up one of the elderly man fell down while searching, so I helped him up and joined them in the search. we only found one of their friends(not alive). We could not find the other 2. I pray they made it out alive.
We saw one civilian killed by the shelling, one injured and 2 missing and presumed dead.
To be clear this location is one of the MANY that took heavy shelling throughout the day in Donetsk.
Bill Ryan
19th June 2022, 13:23
Stop trusting idiots, stay home Don't you see reality? Looook, there is nothing glorious or heroic about this, it's plain stupidity.
The stats for US mercenaries, posted yesterday.
US: 530. 214 died, 227 left Ukraine.
I ran the math. What was interesting there is the numbers of mercenaries from the US who were killed (40%) or left Ukraine (43%). There's barely any of them left: just 90 of them, a mere 17%.
The 227 who "left Ukraine" (the term used by the Russian Foreign Ministry) weren't cowards. They just figured out very quickly what was really happening there, and probably many of them knew some of the 214 that had been killed.
The statement said that they "track every mercenary that enters Ukraine". So every non-Ukrainian fighter, from every country, is being watched and followed all the time. It's rather like this... not the best situation to find oneself in.
https://projectavalon.net/mercenary_target.jpg
I am B
19th June 2022, 13:26
The James Vasquez dude is a complete scam. He spends the whole day posting stuff, "destroyed tanks", cars he sends to the frontline with the funds he gets, and how he now got divorced and sold everything to go back there asap, as if he had been forced to come back to the US on the first place.
Pure pantomime I call it. If you're fighting you're fighting, if you're posting you're not fighting.
Mashika
19th June 2022, 13:57
The James Vasquez dude is a complete scam. He spends the whole day posting stuff, "destroyed tanks", cars he sends to the frontline with the funds he gets, and how he now got divorced and sold everything to go back there asap, as if he had been forced to come back to the US on the first place.
Pure pantomime I call it. If you're fighting you're fighting, if you're posting you're not fighting.
Isn't that the guy that was exposed by Gonzalo Lira?
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Stop trusting idiots, stay home Don't you see reality? Looook, there is nothing glorious or heroic about this, it's plain stupidity.
The stats for US mercenaries, posted yesterday.
US: 530. 214 died, 227 left Ukraine.
I ran the math. What was interesting there is the numbers of mercenaries from the US who were killed (40%) or left Ukraine (43%). There's barely any of them left: just 90 of them, a mere 17%.
The 227 who "left Ukraine" (the term used by the Russian Foreign Ministry) weren't cowards. They just figured out very quickly what was really happening there, and probably many of them knew some of the 214 that had been killed.
The statement said that they "track every mercenary that enters Ukraine". So every non-Ukrainian fighter, from every country, is being watched and followed all the time. It's rather like this... not the best situation to find oneself in.
https://projectavalon.net/mercenary_target.jpg
Yes!, and i hope more people realize what they are truly going into, and that's it's not the ideal war they think of, somehow
There is no such thing, but even comparing against 'wars' that were more like a true invasion and complete overrun on poorly/not trained and obsolete armed rebels is not the same as going against a real army. And we are seeing that just now
So they need to get it. They are the meat in the meat grinder, and not how they are told otherwise.
Mashika
19th June 2022, 14:05
The 'cope' information bubble is tremendous, it is like people grasping desperately at anything that helps them keep control and feel safe in their breaking up apart small bubble of reality. It's hard to see, honestly. They lived all their lives inside that bubble, they never managed to breath real air
Just go through this Twitter thread, before it gets removed
"An incredibly sobering account of the battle of Severodonetsk from an American volunteer with the Ukrainian army."
https://twitter.com/sethharpesq/status/1538265828134887424
First comment on top:
"If this is true, why Russia is still not winning there?"
And look at reply to this lol
Reply says: "Another 'trust me bro' screenshot. Wow, the Russian shills are really active these days."
:waving::Angel:
https://twitter.com/eduzmi/status/1538392340863275008
That's coping, or in other words, the western media is so good at this, and it has been working hard through decades to brainwash their people, that now they don't need more brainwashing, they take care of finding ways out of reality on their own
They themselves ensure that no truth can come through and that they won't fall out of the official/government narrative. Think about that
Bill Ryan
19th June 2022, 14:45
Just go through this Twitter thread, before it gets removed
"An incredibly sobering account of the battle of Severodonetsk from an American volunteer with the Ukrainian army."
https://twitter.com/sethharpesq/status/1538265828134887424Archived for reference: :flower:
https://projectavalon.net/Ukraine_military_debacle_tweet.jpg
Spiral
19th June 2022, 16:27
The next thing to watch ??
Cutting off Russian logistics to Kaliningrad.... & then sell a reaction by Russia to the public as the Evil Ruskies trying to invade the poor little Baltic states....
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Nato view point.... https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/suwalki-gap-40-mile-line-nato-ready-go-war-russia-over-52172
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/03/nato-must-prepare-to-defend-its-weakest-point-the-suwalki-corridor/
Bill Ryan
19th June 2022, 22:46
An article published by Russia Today on 17 June. It's well worth reading. I'll copy and paste it here in full.
https://rt.com/russia/557314-ukrainian-soldiers-frontline-donbass
'Sent to certain death': Why growing numbers of Ukrainian servicemen are refusing to fight on the Donbass frontlines
Many Ukrainian soldiers are terrified by combat conditions and are asking for help on social media
Ukrainian solders are increasingly abandoning their positions and posting videos with complaints about their command. Why is the number of desertions increasing in the war-torn country?
The total assistance of Western countries to Ukraine has already exceeded the country’s military budget for 2022, which was to amount to $12 billion. And this is without taking into account humanitarian donations from ordinary citizens all over the world. Very soon, Ukraine will receive another $20 billion for its military needs from the United States.
It would seem that this huge infusion of funds and incessant supply of weapons from abroad should solve all the problems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, its soldiers are increasingly abandoning their positions without authorization, refusing to go to the frontline in Donbass, and publishing video messages online in which they criticize their commanders.
In this article, RT looks into why, despite foreign aid to Ukraine, the number of problems involving the deployment of military personnel is growing, and why Ukrainian soldiers are deserting more and more frequently.
A scandalous bill (https://www.unian.ua/war/komandiram-mozhut-dozvoliti-vbivati-viyskovih-u-boyoviy-obstanovci-za-nevikonannya-nakaziv-novini-vtorgnennya-rosiji-v-ukrajinu-11839335.html) submitted by [Ukraine’s parliament] Verkhovna Rada deputy Mariana Bezugla, giving officers the right to execute servicemen for desertion, was withdrawn on May 24. However, the very appearance of such an initiative clearly indicates that the problem is real, and the authorities are sounding the alarm.
Indeed, the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass are increasingly facing situations where logistical support is simply non-existent: there is no ammunition, food, or artillery support. A lot of videos have recently appeared on the web that have been posted by the soldiers themselves.
As a rule, they confirm their unauthorized departure from the frontline, while explaining their reasons. Many of these come from military personnel in the area of Severodonetsk and Lisichansk, where the most brutal battles are currently raging in the Donbass.
Criticism of the command
Perhaps one of the most sensational videos (https://youtu.be/kqdnalYJaQY), published on April 28, contained a message from members of the 79th Airborne Assault Brigade describing the brutality of their commanders. According to the commandos, the unit was taken to a forest near the village of Yampol in Donetsk region and left there to die.
“We sat there for five or six days, and the commanders abandoned us... And now we are being made deserters for the fact that we survived... There are a lot of corpses still lying there in those pits.” They stressed that they had asked for help, but the commander gave the order to “go hand-to-hand against the tanks.” Now, the surviving paratroopers face trials for desertion.
Interestingly, after the video was published, many readers in the Ukrainian segment of the internet began to declare that this news was fake, though even Ukrainian presidential advisor Alexey Arestovich confirmed (https://youtu.be/lP6jDNTXQ0A) it.
However, a second video soon appeared, recorded by some paratroopers who confirmed the authenticity of the story in the first video and tried to explain why they had appealed to the Ukrainian people. “I will no longer wear the uniform of this brigade, and half of us guys here feel the same,” said (https://vn.20minut.ua/Podii/mi-ne-v-poloni-ale-formu-tsieyi-brigadi-bilshe-ne-odyagnemo-pro-skanda-11585910.html) paratrooper Andrey Berezinsky.
Criticism of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine by servicemen has not been uncommon in recent months. The 115th Territorial Defense Brigade reported (https://www.radiosvoboda.org/a/teroborona-peremohy-problemy/31870036.html) that the soldiers had not undergone any training on how to dig in under artillery and mortar fire.
Soldiers in Severodonetsk recorded a video (https://ctrana.online/news/391698-kak-narastaet-bunt-sredi-vojujushchikh-na-donbasse-bojtsov-teroborony-s-zapadnoj-ukrainy-.html) in which they complained to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and the Commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Valery Zaluzhny, about a lack of heavy weapons and reinforcements.
The soldiers decried the incompetence of their commanders, who they said had remained in the rear. “We are simply being sent to certain death. There is no combat leadership, no combat commander, no respect for people.”
Nevertheless, the military command did not appreciate that demarche and accused all the soldiers of ‘desertion.’ Consequently, a scandal broke out with the participation of the servicemen’s relatives, who appealed (https://t.me/ua_tribunal/852) to the Office of the President of Ukraine for help.
“My husband went to war as a volunteer, and now he’s sitting under shelling in Severodonetsk. There’s no command, they are their own commanders. And the people who left the brigade have been put in jail as deserters. How?! How can they fight without anything? With shovels perhaps, or with what?” said (https://t.me/opersvodki/5033) one of the military wives. “The 115th Brigade are not deserters! They just throw them in like cannon fodder. They are taking on tanks with machine guns from the 80s. Why are they dying? So that those sitting in HQ can receive stars?” another woman expressed (https://t.me/shot_shot/40046) with indignation.
Supplies
In early June, Radio France Internationale reported (https://www.rfi.fr/fr/europe/20220531-guerre-ukraine-donbass-col%C3%A8re-soldats-ukrainiens-du-front-sievierodonestk) from a location near Severodonetsk that “decline is brewing” in the Armed Forces of Ukraine as the fighting in Donbass intensifies. “A movement of discontent is emerging among the soldiers: they are increasingly complaining about a lack of supplies and support from their command,” it noted, adding that the soldiers near Lisichansk describe what is happening at the front as “hell on Earth.”
One of the main problems that greatly demoralizes soldiers remains supply. Sergeant Roman Ilchenko directly stated to French journalists that “the Russians have artillery, armored vehicles, and their forces are five to six times greater than ours… We only had machine guns and RPGs from 1986. A Degtyarov machine gun from 1943. And the Maxim machine gun from 1933. We also have a Swedish portable NLAW anti-tank missile system, but the battery did not work. This is all we had,” Vladimir Kharchuk, a member of the 20th Battalion, said, describing his last operation. Serviceman Andrey Shevchenko believes that if the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not strengthen its artillery, it won’t be able to do anything.
Earlier, another major foreign media outlet had reported on the Ukrainian Army’s supply problems. At the end of May, The Washington Post reported on the arrest of Ukrainian company commander Sergei Lapko, who had recently given an interview (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/26/ukraine-frontline-russia-military-severodonetsk/) to the newspaper. The officer told WaPo about the extremely difficult situation at the front, particularly in the area of Severodonetsk and Lisichansk.
The Ukrainian General Staff, as well as the chairman of the Lugansk regional Military Administration, Sergey Gaidai, had also reported on the difficult situation of the Ukrainian military in the Lugansk Region. Indeed, there is a constant flow of such messages coming from Ukrainian soldiers right now, but Lapko’s story added a lot of details to the picture of what is actually happening.
https://cdni.russiatoday.com/files/2022.06/original/62ac692620302701b21852f9.jpg Russian servicemen check members of Ukrainian forces who have surrendered at the Azovstal steel plant in the Russia-controlled port city of Mariupol, Donetsk People's Republic.
“Before being sent to the front, we were handed AK-47 assault rifles and had a training session that lasted less than half an hour. When we had fired 30 bullets, we were told we would not get more because ammunition is too expensive,” he said. When his company was sent to Donbass, twenty people refused immediately and were arrested for desertion.
“When we were coming here, we were told that we would be in the third line of defense. Instead, we went to the zero line, the frontline. We didn’t know where we were going.” Of his company of 120 men, only 54 remained in the ranks – the rest either died, were wounded, or deserted.
“We see on Ukrainian television that there are no losses. It’s not true,” the commander said. He believes the losses are kept secret in order to preserve the morale of soldiers and the general public. The soldier noted that, despite all the difficulties, their troops fought bravely, but the combat had dealt heavy damage to his company, as well as to other units in the area.
The Washington Post writes that most of the deaths had occurred because wounded soldiers were not evacuated quickly enough, often waiting 12 hours for transport to the Lisichansk military hospital.
The soldier touched on relations with the command separately. “Our command does not assume any responsibility. They take credit only for our achievements. They don’t give us any support,” he said. He also complained about problems with water and poor nutrition – the servicemen had to be content with one potato a day.
A few hours after the interview was published, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) detained several people from Lapko’s company on charges of desertion. The company commander himself was suspended from duty and placed in a pre-trial detention center in Lisichansk, and his further fate has not been reported. However, after his resonant interview, the Ukrainian media began to pay closer attention to video messages of soldiers describing problems at the front.
Desertion
As with other countries’ armed forces, there are legislative provisions in Ukraine that hold military personnel legally responsible for desertion – article 408 of the Criminal Code. Moreover, desertion under martial law or in a combat situation provides for fairly harsh punishment – from five to twelve years in prison. However, these measures have not stopped the soldiers in some units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from leaving their positions.
Even in the initial period of the conflict, individual soldiers voluntarily left their units. Unable to withstand the harsh conditions, they decided (https://strana.best/news/393144-pochemu-ukrainskie-voennye-samovolno-ostavljajut-front.html) independently to escape from the front. The first cases of group desertion began at the end of April and were associated with the deterioration of the situation for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass. At that time, the Russian Ministry of Defense stated (https://t.me/opersvodki/3777) that more than 860 soldiers had deserted from the units of the National Guard of Ukraine.
We have already written about a case when a whole platoon of the 115th Territorial Defense Brigade appealed to Zelensky and Zaluzhny with a refusal to carry out a combat mission near Severodonetsk. Later, a similar statement was recorded (https://youtu.be/TmUiQfA8uuo) by units of the 58th Brigade and the 46th separate rifle battalion. The soldiers accused the command of throwing them into a hopeless situation as cannon fodder in order to plug the most problematic areas of the front.
They had been on their way to Zaporozhye, but eventually ended up at the front near Popasna – one of the hottest spots in Donbass. They did not have heavy weapons, no supplies arrived, and the command turned out to be incompetent. As a result, they suffered heavy losses and had to retreat from their positions.
Literally at the same time, another recording (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SaRMvGsF3Aw) appeared from Donbass, where the servicemen of the 71st Jaeger Brigade directly refused to carry out an order from their officers to enter the battlefield unarmed against guns and howitzers and to shoot it on video. The soldiers considered the order “criminal” and left the positions.
“We stand with machine guns against cannons, Grads, and mortars. No one helps us. We don’t have any sensible weapons, there is nothing. How can we fight for a country that doesn’t care about us?” complains one of the soldiers. “We don’t want to go into the meat grinder and come out ground beef. We don’t have tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, guns…,” a second echoes. At the end of the appeal, the fighters added that they only have a couple dozen mortars and these “only work when they want to.”
Zelensky also received an appeal (https://t.me/anna_news/33462) from servicemen of unit 7093 attached to the Ukrainian Army’s 57th Brigade, who also did not like it at the front. They complained about a lack of heavy weapons and the absence of officers, most of whom had died during the fighting around Lugansk.
These resonant cases indicate that, in addition to members of territorial defense units, members of regular Ukrainian Army units are also withdrawing from their positions. In other words, even if the Ukrainian Army has enough personnel to form new brigades, it doesn’t have the minimum number of armored vehicles to supply them, so it’s impossible to create combat-ready formations from the conscripts.
Protests from the Rear
At the same time, scandals are jarring the deep rear as well. Far from the combat in Stry in the Lviv Region, the relatives of fighters in the 65th battalion of the Territorial Defense’s 103rd Brigade staged a protest when they caught the unit’s commander in the town while their men were fighting on the frontline. They stated that they had been sent straight to Donbass, unprepared and without weapons, instead of protecting the Lviv Region.
At a meeting with representatives of the Territorial Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the soldiers’ relatives demanded that the men be returned home because, according to them, they are not ready to conduct combat. “The unprepared fighters were given a machine gun and two grenades and sent to stop an army that far exceeded our soldiers,” Valentina Mamon from Stry complained (https://ctrana.online/news/391698-kak-narastaet-bunt-sredi-vojujushchikh-na-donbasse-bojtsov-teroborony-s-zapadnoj-ukrainy-.html).
“They went to the front in their cars, which they also had to refuel themselves. They spent several hours in pits with machine guns. And, most importantly, they shot at their own retreaters. It’s good that there were no casualties. When the volunteers brought in walkie-talkies, the battalion headquarters took them away,” added Galina Sidor. Many of the women also say that unprepared fighters were thrown in to stop the enemy “with their bare hands.”
https://cdni.russiatoday.com/files/2022.06/original/62ac695e85f540598f6eef7f.jpg Servicemen of the 503rd battalion of the Marine Infantry of the Ukrainian Armed Forces detained by the servicemen of the DPR People's Militia lie on the ground in the suburbs of Mariupol, DPR.
Protests have also spread to another region in western Ukraine –Transcarpathia. In Khust, women attacked (https://ctrana.online/news/388915-cheho-zhdat-ot-bunta-protiv-mobilizatsii-na-zakarpate-.html) a military commissar for the fact that their men had been sent to Donbass without bulletproof vests or helmets. They accused the military enlistment office of violations and bribery. According to their information, you can get out of being sent to Donbass for $3,000.
There have also been claims that people with chronic heart disease or asthma are being sent to the front. “On what basis were these unprepared people, who did not pass the medical examination, being conscripted and sent to the front? Specifically my husband, who’s had a heart attack and needs a heart transplant,” said Inna Salautina, the wife of one of the servicemen in the 101st Territorial Defense Brigade.
Nevertheless, Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense is in no hurry to admit its mistakes, although earlier the ministry said it would not send people to the front without prior training. At the same time, the command notes that sending territorial defense troops to Donbass from the country’s western regions is legal.
“There is an existing law, amended on January 27, according to which, by order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Territorial Defense battalions can be involved in performing tasks outside their regions on certain grounds” said (https://ctrana.online/news/391698-kak-narastaet-bunt-sredi-vojujushchikh-na-donbasse-bojtsov-teroborony-s-zapadnoj-ukrainy-.html) Vitaly Kupri, adviser to the Commander of the Territorial Defense Forces.
Numerous cases of desertion and complaints about supplies, along with losses and voluntary surrenders, indicate that the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the defense in Donbass are experiencing great problems. Videos are increasingly appearing from the frontline in which soldiers confirm that they are deserting.
Obviously, the situation for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this region suffers when positions are abandoned without authorization. Despite foreign aid, with the prolongation of hostilities, such cases are likely to become more and more common, as fatigue, economic problems, as well as corruption, make themselves felt.
Bill Ryan
19th June 2022, 23:39
An article published by Russia Today on 17 June. It's well worth reading. I'll copy and paste it here in full.
https://rt.com/russia/557314-ukrainian-soldiers-frontline-donbass
[ ... ]
The soldiers decried the incompetence of their commanders, who they said had remained in the rear. “We are simply being sent to certain death. There is no combat leadership, no combat commander, no respect for people.”
Another report from RT, published today. It seems that in Ukraine, one doesn't have to be abandoned on the front line to be killed. Grimly, it's possible there may be one or two Ukrainian soldiers, angered at their betrayal, who may be hiding a momentary wry smile about this.
https://rt.com/russia/557428-50-ukrainian-generals-officers-killed-russia
Dozens of Ukrainian officers killed in missile strike
The Russian Defense Ministry claimed that Kalibr missiles were also used to destroy Western-supplied M777 howitzers and armored vehicles
Russian warships have destroyed a Ukrainian command center with Kalibr cruise missiles, killing dozens of officers, Moscow's Defense Ministry reported on Sunday.
“More than 50 generals and officers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were killed,” the statement outlined.
The strike took place near the village of Shirokaya Dacha in Dnepropetrovsk Region. It hit a compound where commanders of several Ukrainian units had gathered for a meeting, according to Moscow.
The ministry added that Kalibr missiles were also used to destroy 10 M777 howitzers and up to 20 armored vehicles that were recently delivered from the West, and had been stored inside a factory building in the southern city of Nikolayev.
kfm27917
19th June 2022, 23:48
for those interested in military analysis and tactics, here are some interesting articles:
https://community.apan.org/wg/tradoc-g2/fmso/p/oe-watch-issues
https://www.ausa.org/articles/russia’s-new-generation-warfare
https://medium.com/the-pathfinder/russia-s-new-generation-warfare-471066cb37d
The ministry added that Kalibr missiles were also used to destroy 10 M777 howitzers and up to 20 armored vehicles that were recently delivered from the West, and had been stored inside a factory building in the southern city of Nikolayev.
I wonder if they were the twenty Bushmasters PMV's and among the ten M777 the six sent over by Australia.
Mashika
20th June 2022, 02:37
When Elensky and associates admit in public they lost half of their military armament, don't believe the reason they are projecting out there
The reason they want people on the west to know is this:
They want the west to send lots and lots of guns and other resources, because now it has turned into a resell business to the middle east. Every rifle and mortar and nlaw sent to Ukraine will most likely end up in the middle east. And the top gov in Ukraine is getting richer by the minute while people die.
They.Don't.Care. because they have already negociated a deal with the US to avoid exposing the labs and other stuff that was going on in Ukraine, in exchange for a very nice life outside of the country and in some European one instead, along with all their families! The proof of that has already been posted here, they are buying land in other countries already, and they will move out soon enough.
At this point they are just milking the cow until it dies, they learned very well how the business of war works from the 'Western Partners'
Think fast, and think smart. Your money is going to give someone else a better life than the one you can possibly ever have
:facepalm:
Mashika
20th June 2022, 04:12
I love that kind of rant lmao
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Mashika
20th June 2022, 04:19
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God damn you Joe Biden, God. Damn. You.
Stupid animal
I hope you and your servants will get to feel this. All because of your greed.
Journeyman
20th June 2022, 07:10
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Mashika
20th June 2022, 07:17
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
Journeyman
20th June 2022, 07:22
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
Mashika
20th June 2022, 07:40
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
Didn't Boris took an urgent plane to Ukraine just a few days ago, to make it sure the Ukraine would not give up, while leaving all the UK people to the trash? Priorities or something... lmao
The Uk government is like the US one, three kids stacked over each other under a trench coat :P
Mashika
20th June 2022, 07:47
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
He just did that, actually, he dumped his own country to go there and take a picture with Elenksy lmao.
That's how stupid they All are.
And prove me wrong.. It.Is.A.Fact
Mashika
20th June 2022, 08:06
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
Money changes everything...
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Mashika
20th June 2022, 08:31
Morons lmfao
Money.. Wake up, morons..
¤=[Post Update]=¤
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
Whatever i think, and whatever you and all the other idiot retarded people out there think, has nothing to do with reality and what is happening around these places.
We.Don't.Care.... Wake.Up.
Journeyman
20th June 2022, 09:51
Morons lmfao
Money.. Wake up, morons..
¤=[Post Update]=¤
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
Whatever i think, and whatever you and all the other idiot retarded people out there think, has nothing to do with reality and what is happening around these places.
We.Don't.Care.... Wake.Up.
I think you've misinterpreted my initial post highlighting the deception within the source you quoted as a personal attack and this misunderstanding has influenced your subsequent replies.
I've highlighted it not to score points, or to attack you for posting it, but to flag it up to fellow members here so that they're not deceived and also to illustrate what I believe to be an important point. That the reporting of this war has attracted some very dubious and dishonest characters on all sides of the conflict and that we, as readers, have to carefully assess the sources we're using and call them out where justified, regardless of whether their views coincide with our own.
Why not take a step back, look again at my initial post and the post it refers to and ask yourself how you would feel if someone took a quote from you and reversed the meaning, putting words in your mouth that you never said. You've written about your own experiences in a military role I think? If you had written that you were anxious to get back to join your comrades and someone had taken those words and instead said you were desperate to get out of there and abandon them how would you feel about it? Would that be the action of an honest, trustworthy reporter? Or is it a callow, low trick worthy of the propagandist? Should we overlook such behaviour when it suits us to, or should we try to set a basic standard of honesty and integrity and demand that not only of ourselves, but from those we look to for information?
I expect emotions to be running high at present and don't care what names you throw in my direction, but I do hope you can take a break and a step back, reread my initial post and look again at the source you quoted and the outright dishonest way they've put words in someone else's mouth.
Either way, this will be my last post in this thread. :waving:
Mashika
20th June 2022, 10:01
Morons lmfao
Money.. Wake up, morons..
¤=[Post Update]=¤
No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
Whatever i think, and whatever you and all the other idiot retarded people out there think, has nothing to do with reality and what is happening around these places.
We.Don't.Care.... Wake.Up.
I think you've misinterpreted my initial post highlighting the deception within the source you quoted as a personal attack and this misunderstanding has influenced your subsequent replies.
I've highlighted it not to score points, or to attack you for posting it, but to flag it up to fellow members here so that they're not deceived and also to illustrate what I believe to be an important point. That the reporting of this war has attracted some very dubious and dishonest characters on all sides of the conflict and that we, as readers, have to carefully assess the sources we're using and call them out where justified, regardless of whether their views coincide with our own.
Why not take a step back, look again at my initial post and the post it refers to and ask yourself how you would feel if someone took a quote from you and reversed the meaning, putting words in your mouth that you never said. You've written about your own experiences in a military role I think? If you had written that you were anxious to get back to join your comrades and someone had taken those words and instead said you were desperate to get out of there and abandon them how would you feel about it? Would that be the action of an honest, trustworthy reporter? Or is it a callow, low trick worthy of the propagandist? Should we overlook such behaviour when it suits us to, or should we try to set a basic standard of honesty and integrity and demand that not only of ourselves, but from those we look to for information?
I expect emotions to be running high at present and don't care what names you throw in my direction, but I do hope you can take a break and a step back, reread my initial post and look again at the source you quoted and the outright dishonest way they've put words in someone else's mouth.
Either way, this will be my last post in this thread. :waving:
Hope so
The taste of a giant gulp of blood out your mouth as you try to breath while life is being drained out of you, is something i don't wish for anyone at all ever. You have no idea how that feels. So go in peace
And i hope you never, ever get to experience that stupidity.
Mashika
20th June 2022, 10:12
We do live in very different worlds
"does anyone cares?"
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ExomatrixTV
20th June 2022, 11:52
'The Old World Order Is Over': These Are The Key Points From Putin's Speech:
Western sanctions against Russia have had no effect. The economic blitzkrieg had no chance of success from the start. Russian President Vladimir Putin said this Friday at the International Economic Forum in St. Petersburg in a speech (https://www.rt.com/russia/557346-putin-spief-speech-takeaways/) that lasted more than an hour.
Putin called the sanctions "insane" and "ill-considered", and said they hit the EU especially hard. “The sanctions have exacerbated social and economic problems and made food, electricity and fuel more expensive.”
“The European Union has completely relinquished its political sovereignty. Its bureaucratic elites are dancing to someone else's tune and doing whatever they are told, harming their own population and economy," Putin said.
elt-bfwkWuo
The 'blind belief' in renewable energy sources and the suspension of energy contracts with Russia led to an energy price spike last year. Meanwhile, the United States and the EU have printed trillions of dollars and euros during the corona pandemic, the Russian leader said.
The policies pursued by European and American leaders are exacerbating inequalities and fueling further divisions. This will inevitably lead to a growth of populism and radical movements, major social and economic changes, decline and – in the near future – other elites, the Russian leader said.
Hampered by the West
Sanctions against Russia lead to increasing food insecurity. If a famine breaks out in the poorest countries "it is the fault of the US government and the European bureaucracy."
Russia stands ready to send food to Africa and the Middle East, where famine is most likely, but is "hampered by the West."
Old world order gone
Putin reiterated that Russia sent troops to Ukraine in February to protect its citizens and residents of Donbass from genocide by Kiev and neo-Nazis protected by the West.
The president also said that the old world order is over and that Russia is entering a new world order as "a powerful and modern country." The rules of that new world order are set by 'strong and sovereign states'.
Important reading
What the West Doesn't Realize: Putin is seen as a hero across much of Africa, Latin America and Asia. He is doing what other government leaders do not dare or cannot do: he has taken up battle with the imperialists in Washington, which they have cursed,' responds journalist Eric van de Beek.
“Putin explains that the US New World Order has come to an end. An important lecture, which only ended up in the margins in the western media,” adds journalist Joost Niemoller.
Investigative journalist Patrick Savalle states: “Putin's historic speech. The old world order is over. Western leaders have deceived their peoples. Colonialism has failed.”
source (https://www.ninefornews.nl/de-oude-wereldorde-is-voorbij-dit-zijn-de-belangrijkste-punten-uit-de-speech-van-poetin) (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳
Bill Ryan
20th June 2022, 13:04
The taste of a giant gulp of blood out your mouth as you try to breath while life is being drained out of you, is something i don't wish for anyone at all ever. You have no idea how that feels. So go in peace
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War is a terrible thing. So is any needless death. And Boris Johnson has a LOT to answer for.
Many readers will know this already, but a couple of months ago Johnson played a major part in persuading Zelensky NOT to negotiate any more with the Russians, and his most recent trip to Kiev, 3 days ago, was in response/reaction to that of French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi the previous day.
Macron, Scholz and Draghi were trying to persuade Zelensky to cut a deal with the Russians — any deal — and end the war that's not only destroying his own country but also Europe's economy. Johnson's visit was to persuade Zelensky to do the opposite, continuing to needlessly kill his own soldiers, prolong the war, and end any chance of Ukraine ever being a sovereign country again.
Johnson is a de facto murderer. I think this is the point here, and one that if we all look at the facts together we should maybe be able to agree on.
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And a reminder here to us all, if I may, with my mod hat on. Mashika, as a teenage soldier, has seen war, and violent death, with her own eyes, right in front of her, sometimes every day. She's written about this in some detail on this thread and various others. I think very few if any of us may be able to fully imagine what she's experienced, but we may be able to understand that the terrible impressions are indelible and are seldom if ever erased.
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 13:42
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 13:47
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samildamach
20th June 2022, 15:09
Morons lmfao
Money.. Wake up, morons..
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No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
Whatever i think, and whatever you and all the other idiot retarded people out there think, has nothing to do with reality and what is happening around these places.
We.Don't.Care.... Wake.Up.
I think you've misinterpreted my initial post highlighting the deception within the source you quoted as a personal attack and this misunderstanding has influenced your subsequent replies.
I've highlighted it not to score points, or to attack you for posting it, but to flag it up to fellow members here so that they're not deceived and also to illustrate what I believe to be an important point. That the reporting of this war has attracted some very dubious and dishonest characters on all sides of the conflict and that we, as readers, have to carefully assess the sources we're using and call them out where justified, regardless of whether their views coincide with our own.
Why not take a step back, look again at my initial post and the post it refers to and ask yourself how you would feel if someone took a quote from you and reversed the meaning, putting words in your mouth that you never said. You've written about your own experiences in a military role I think? If you had written that you were anxious to get back to join your comrades and someone had taken those words and instead said you were desperate to get out of there and abandon them how would you feel about it? Would that be the action of an honest, trustworthy reporter? Or is it a callow, low trick worthy of the propagandist? Should we overlook such behaviour when it suits us to, or should we try to set a basic standard of honesty and integrity and demand that not only of ourselves, but from those we look to for information?
I expect emotions to be running high at present and don't care what names you throw in my direction, but I do hope you can take a break and a step back, reread my initial post and look again at the source you quoted and the outright dishonest way they've put words in someone else's mouth.
Either way, this will be my last post in this thread. :waving:Hope so
The taste of a giant gulp of blood out your mouth as you try to breath while life is being drained out of you, is something i don't wish for anyone at all ever. You have no idea how that feels. So go in peace
And i hope you never, ever get to experience that stupidity.
This is clearly becoming a personal unwarranted attack,detracting from the serious nature if the thread.
From Bill:
Please see my mods' post just above. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1503784&viewfull=1#post1503784) I think Mashika can be trusted to self-moderate. She's a totally heart-centered person, and she always finds a way back to balance.
It may be our challenge to empathize with some of what she so very strongly feels, and do our best to understand why.
Unlike all the rest of us, she's fought in Ukraine personally, has killed others and seen her friends killed and injured beside her, and has witnessed this bloodbath day after day with her own eyes.
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Bill Ryan
20th June 2022, 16:07
Reported a couple of days again by many media outlets:
https://aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/18/lithuania-enforces-eu-sanctions-on-goods-to-russias-kaliningrad
Lithuania enforces EU sanctions on goods to Russia’s Kaliningrad
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/fb70131702a84fac84b6a865ae2d6417_18.jpeg?w=770&resize=770%2C433
Kaliningrad is fully a part of Russia, but exists as a kind of "island" with Lithuania in between.
The blockage is for goods shipped by rail, which is a longstanding agreement between Lithuania and Russia.
The Russians can easily get there by sea from St Petersburg, so it's hard to see what the Lithuanians want to achieve besides irritating the Russians even further. (If the Lithuanians try blockade the harbor, then there'll be Russian military action for sure.)
Russia will have no problem getting supplies there, but are also likely to respond in a non-military, asymmetrical way... starting with (e.g.) cutting off Lithuanian gas completely.
pyrangello
20th June 2022, 16:18
This guy from europe really lays this out with whats happening 13 minute video https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/dire-warning-to-americans-from-gonzalo-lira-in-kharkiv-ukraine-biden-admin-escalating-ukraine-situation-to-nuclear-war-with-russia Dire Warning to Americans From Kharkiv, Ukraine; Biden Admin. escalating Ukraine to Nuclear War with Russia
Then a follow up today :
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/panic-buying-in-kaliningrad-as-lithuania-sanctions-russian-railroad
UPDATED 10:27 AM EDT -- Panic Buying in Kaliningrad as Lithuania "Sanctions" Russian Railroad
UPDATE 10:27 AM EDT --
Senator Klimov: the blockade of Kaliningrad by Lithuania can be regarded as direct aggression
If the European Union does not correct the “impudent trick” of Lithuania, which banned the transit of almost half of the cargo to the Kaliningrad region, then Brussels itself will disavow the legitimacy of the documents on Lithuanian membership in the EU for Russia and thus “untie its hands” to solve the problem of Kaliningrad transit “by any means.”
Brief Recap with historical notes:
Kaliningrad's governor Alikhanov has already called on Russian federal authorities to prepare tit-for-tat measures against Lithuania in wake of the transit ban.
Alikhanov cited a key condition in the 2004 agreement that was part of Lithuania’s accession to the EU:
"that the Baltic state will apply in practice the principle of freedom of transit of goods, including energy, between the Kaliningrad Region and the rest of Russian territory."
"In particular, we confirm that there shall be freedom of such transit, and that the goods in such transit shall not be subject to unnecessary delays or restrictions and shall be exempt from customs duties and transit duties or other charges related to transit,"
Then, in April...
When the EU first proposed the blockage of goods as part of the last major sanctions package in early April, Kremlin officials warned of war given Moscow would have to "break the blockade" for the sake if its citizens.
"I think that for now, this is a game, testing the waters <…>.
In case of a blockade, as they are saying, the Soviet Union knows how to break the blockades, we (Russia as the successor of the Soviet Union - TASS) have vast experience," the senator said.
"If they want to go to the length of making us break this blockade to save the lives of our people, who live there, we can do this,"
Ahead of the new Lithuanian transit ban taking effect, the state railways service was reportedly 'awaiting final word' from the European Commission.
then Brussels ruled that:
"sanctioned goods and cargo should still be prohibited even if they travel from one part of Russia to another but through EU territory,"
In Moscow's eyes, this is tantamount to laying economic siege to part of Russia's sovereign territory and one million of its citizens.
From me, exactly what does all of this have to do with Ukraine? I guess 40 billion wasn't good enough to send to Ukraine to pay off and bribe whoever, oh that's right its for everything but help. The corruption there, the people here pulling the strings , it isn't Biden , he's to busy falling down on his bike. I keep referring back to " Bankers make more money in one day of war that in 1 year of peace". This entire thing is a shxtshow , it smells bad , and is bad for the worlds populations period.
Bill Ryan
20th June 2022, 16:27
it isn't Biden, he's too busy falling down on his bike.Managing the US economy, energy policy and foreign policy? It's as easy as riding a bicycle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4zfmNE2Wc). :)
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 17:49
https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1538940280929402880
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 17:55
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1538928186033115136
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 18:00
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1538929553980129280
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 18:05
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-sitrep-lysichansk-cauldron-sinking-morale-more-provocations.html
Ukraine SitRep - Lysichansk Cauldron - Sinking Morale - More Provocations
The former CIA and intelligence bigwig Graham Fuller predicts a gloomy outcome of the U.S-Russia proxy war in Ukraine. Gloomy for Ukraine, the U.S. and Europe:
Contrary to Washington’s triumphalist pronouncements, Russia is winning the war, Ukraine has lost the war. Any longer-term damage to Russia is open to debate.
American sanctions against Russia have turned out to be far more devastating to Europe than to Russia. The global economy has slowed and many developing nations face serious food shortages and risk of broad starvation.
There are already deep cracks in the European façade of so-called “NATO unity.” Western Europe will increasingly rue the day that it blindly followed the American Pied Piper to war against Russia. Indeed, this is not a Ukrainian-Russian war but an American-Russian war fought by proxy to the last Ukrainian.
Contrary to optimistic declarations, NATO may in fact ultimately emerge weakened. Western Europeans will think long and hard about the wisdom and deep costs of provoking deeper long term confrontations with Russia or other “competitors”of the US.
Europe will sooner or later return to the purchase of inexpensive Russian energy. Russia lies on the doorstep and a natural economic relationship with Russia will possess overwhelming logic in the end.
Europe already perceives the US as a declining power with an erratic and hypocritical foreign policy “vision” premised upon the desperate need to preserve “American leadership” in the world. America’s willingness to go to war to this end is increasingly dangerous to others.
All the above had already been said on this website in late February and March. But it is good to see that seasoned intelligence people are now coming to similar conclusions.
Two weeks ago I wrote that the Ukrainians will soon reach a breaking point. Today's 'clobber list' by the Russia Ministry of Defense has an additional part about Ukrainian troop loses that supports that take:
Since May 19, during the month, only the 14th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU has lost 2,100 persons who resulted dead and wounded. Due to low moral and psychological conditions, 800 persons destined for replenishing the losses of this unit, refused to go to the operational area and accused officers of incompetence, bribery and cronyism in paying money allowance.
About 100 servicemen of a reconnaissance unit of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade have been relieved of combat duty and transported to Kremenchug for investigation.
A considerable part of the commanders of the 30th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU have abstracted themselves from managing their units and refuse to fulfil combat tasks. All kinds of pretexts are used for simulating illness. The majority of units have already been left without any officers.
A mechanized brigade has about 3,500 soldiers. In one month the Ukrainian 14th lost two third of its people. The replacements are not trained on mechanized equipment (tanks, APCs) that likely no longer exists and can only be used as unprotected infantry. It is no wonder that they reject to be send into a hopeless situation.
The Ukrainian leadership is still sending new units into the Lysichansk cauldron in the east. The Russians do not mind that. Their job is to "demilitarize" Ukraine. To enclose more troops in one swoop makes that easier.
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The distance between the red Russian held area at the the top to the one at the bottom at the most narrow gap is a mere 15 kilometer or some 9 miles. There is only one open road running through it from west to east which is used for pushing resupplies to the Ukrainian troops in Lysichansk.
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Currently fighting is taking place over Mykolaivka at the bottom of this detail map. Five kilometer north of it is the Lysichansk refinery. It will be the next target. The last road to Lysichansk runs directly north of it. When that road comes under direct Russian fire the cauldron will be closed and the boiling will start for those who are in it. For the ~20,000 soldiers in the cauldron it will mean surrender or die.
If that is still possible it will further lower the morale of other Ukrainian troops.
Ananke Group @AnankeGroup - 15:01 UTC · Jun 20, 2022
"We, soldiers of the 8th battalion of the 10th brigade, based near the city of Seversk. We appeal to you, Mr. President, Mr. Zaluzhny, and to the Ukrainian people [...] We demand the immediate rotation of our remaining troops, physically and mentally there are no more forces.
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It is interesting that the troops also appeal to General Zaluzhny, the top commander of the Armed Forces of Ukrainian (AFU). It is the first time I hear that. The idea to fight in Lysichansk until the end came from Zelensky and his civilian advisors. Zaluzhny has reportedly been against that. He wanted those and other troops to retreat and wage a more mobile campaign. That would have shortened the front line and given a chance to create reserves that can rest and prepare for a later counterattack. There are rumors that Zelensky's advisors are now lobbying to replace Zaluzhny as he has increased his media presence. They probably fear a coup.
The Russian side reported yesterday that it had killed 50 generals and higher officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a missile strike. The group was meeting to plan the further fight in the southern region of Odessa and Kherson. This now seems to have been confirmed:
Management Impact Solutions Consulting, LP - @MiExecSearch - 15:10 UTC · Jun 20, 2022
Russian Armed Forces beat out AFU generals, who were holed up in the rear. The military-civilian administration of Zaporozhye region confirmed results of a missile strike on AFU command post near the village of Shirokaya Dacha, 57 top-level officers were killed.
Last night, probably in response to the strike on the officers, the Ukrainians fired a missile against a gas and oil production platform in the waters near Crimea. The installation was damaged. Russia considers that to be a direct attack on valuable infrastructure within Russian territory and will likely give a strong response.
Yesterday Lithuania announced that it would immediately prohibit Russian goods under EU sanctions to cross from Belarus to the Kaliningrad enclave at the Baltic seas which is Russian territory. That is in breach of several international agreements which guarantee unhindered Russian access to the city. Russia has yet to announce a response to this new provocation.
James Newell
20th June 2022, 18:12
Patrick Lancaster is an American who has been living in the Ukraine for the last 8 years. He has live, unedited war correspondent footage. It definitely shows the Ukrainians shelling Ukrainian citizens. (Warning if you have difficulty confronting violence and war)And if you have a weak stomach it shows dead people.
I find it amazing they are so nice to him considering the Americans are supplying shells and missiles which are killing and wounding people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXR6pXrzBI
Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 18:27
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1538847346439573505
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 18:34
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https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/status/1538908154259554305
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 18:41
https://twitter.com/thesiriusreport/status/1538832687460384768
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 18:47
https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/status/1538883077757345792
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 19:11
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 19:21
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1538958964435697671
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Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 19:30
June 18-19 Rybar update in English
https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1538965830863622144
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https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1538836314698698758
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Bill Ryan
20th June 2022, 19:31
This was reported on a Russian website 2 days ago. If true, this is sure to go well. :facepalm:
https://en.topwar.ru/197931-vlasti-polshi-po-zaprosu-iz-kieva-reshili-deportirovat-ukrainskih-muzhchin-mobilizacionnogo-vozrasta.html
Polish authorities, upon request from Kyiv, decide to deport Ukrainian men of “mobilization” age
From June 27, 2022, Poland will start searching for and deporting male citizens of Ukraine aged 18 to 60. This is reported immediately by a number of Ukrainian resources. In principle, given the growing involvement of Warsaw in the events in Ukraine, such actions look quite natural.
It all started with the fact that the Polish authorities received a corresponding letter signed by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba. The head of Ukrainian diplomacy asked Warsaw to identify and deport to Ukraine all Ukrainian male refugees in the "mobilization" age. There are hundreds of thousands of them on the territory of Poland, and other European countries.
Videos of the so-called ugly behavior appear regularly on social networks. "refugees" who swear and fight with local residents in various European countries. We see, for example, fiery "patriots" of Ukraine - physically strong young men who for some reason chose not to serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but to attack Austrian taxi drivers. And this is just a single case, chosen as an example, but in fact there are many more.
The Polish authorities decided to meet Kyiv halfway and demanded that potential recruits of the Armed Forces of Ukraine aged 18-60 either return to Ukraine or leave Poland for other countries. Otherwise, they will be deported by the Polish police. Of course, those who have the opportunity will choose the second option, so we should expect Kuleba to contact the authorities of the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany, Austria and other states of Eastern and Central Europe soon.
But the very fact of such a development of events suggests that Ukraine is not doing as well as the Ukrainian authorities and Western media are trying to show. There is clearly a shortage of combat-ready human resources. Apparently, it is so great that Kyiv needs even those Ukrainian citizens who were clearly not going to participate in hostilities and preferred to leave the country.
It is also interesting how the search and deportation of Ukrainian deviators fit into the pseudo-humanistic rhetoric of the European Union, as well as all kinds of liberal-pacifist public. If a person is against the “war”, he left Ukraine, but he is caught in Poland and sent to serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then how does this fit in with the situation with other refugees? After all, they don’t catch “conscripts” from Eritrea, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and other African and Asian states in European countries? It seems that only in relation to Ukraine the standards of maximum involvement of European governments work.
On the other hand, those “ardent patriots” of Ukraine who in European countries damage cars with Russian numbers, attack drivers, make scandals in Russian cuisine cafes and bully local residents in every possible way, would do well to show their prowess in a combat situation. Perhaps, after the decision of the Polish government, the agility of such persons will decrease: they will not want to detect themselves and fall into the field of view of the local police, so they will stop going to all sorts of pro-Ukrainian actions and generally actively declare themselves.
Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 19:37
Probably because of this?????
https://twitter.com/Obserwujacy/status/1535192761225428998
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Mashika
20th June 2022, 19:46
Morons lmfao
Money.. Wake up, morons..
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No really! Another day another Moron
What's the name of the good lost soldier? Nobody cares to know or say. Not even the guy that "lost a good man". Morons
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/6130
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Obviously the first casualty of war is truth and we're surrounded by propaganda at the moment as we saw with the reporting around the Snake island battle or the actions of Lyudmilla Denisova but it clearly goes both ways. Read this 'quote'
"lost a lot of good men last week. I need to get out of here as soon as possible," he writes.
Then look at the original screenshot...
Completely turned the meaning on its head! How many will just read this persons spin on this rather than the original tweet? How many other times have they twisted words to fit their objective?
Ask your government, they are so good at it they must have an explanation for you, other than the reality you can see in a 100 videos they block around your media day by day
You think the UK government is running that telegram channel as some kind of controlled opposition?
Whatever i think, and whatever you and all the other idiot retarded people out there think, has nothing to do with reality and what is happening around these places.
We.Don't.Care.... Wake.Up.
I think you've misinterpreted my initial post highlighting the deception within the source you quoted as a personal attack and this misunderstanding has influenced your subsequent replies.
I've highlighted it not to score points, or to attack you for posting it, but to flag it up to fellow members here so that they're not deceived and also to illustrate what I believe to be an important point. That the reporting of this war has attracted some very dubious and dishonest characters on all sides of the conflict and that we, as readers, have to carefully assess the sources we're using and call them out where justified, regardless of whether their views coincide with our own.
Why not take a step back, look again at my initial post and the post it refers to and ask yourself how you would feel if someone took a quote from you and reversed the meaning, putting words in your mouth that you never said. You've written about your own experiences in a military role I think? If you had written that you were anxious to get back to join your comrades and someone had taken those words and instead said you were desperate to get out of there and abandon them how would you feel about it? Would that be the action of an honest, trustworthy reporter? Or is it a callow, low trick worthy of the propagandist? Should we overlook such behaviour when it suits us to, or should we try to set a basic standard of honesty and integrity and demand that not only of ourselves, but from those we look to for information?
I expect emotions to be running high at present and don't care what names you throw in my direction, but I do hope you can take a break and a step back, reread my initial post and look again at the source you quoted and the outright dishonest way they've put words in someone else's mouth.
Either way, this will be my last post in this thread. :waving:
Yes i did misunderstood you, i'm terrible sometimes like that and i'm very sorry for it, please forgive. There's a lot going on and i don't think i'm on the right mindset at this time to see it all without getting angry or upset
I'm truly sorry that happened
Bill Ryan
20th June 2022, 19:54
this is sure to go well. :facepalm:And this, too. (Jeez!)
One more thing to needlessly irritate the Russians (and divide the local Ukrainians, too), but it's really a kind of suicide policy from the Nikolayev council. Russia will now be guaranteed to take over the whole place before then.
https://tass.com/world/1468013
Russian language to be outlawed at Nikolayev schools from September 1
From September 1, there will be no electives, courses, primary school classes instructing in Russian, or design of the educational environment
The Ukrainian city of Nikolayev will ban the Russian language at schools starting on September 1, Yekaterina Stokolyas, a member of the Nikolayev city council’s executive committee, said on Saturday.
"Yesterday, the executive committee voted to ban the use of the Russian language in secondary educational institutions in Nikolayev. From September 1, there will be no electives, courses, primary school classes instructing in Russian, or design of the educational environment," she wrote on Facebook (the Internet platform banned in Russia since it is owned by the Meta Corporation deemed extremist by Russian authorities).
Ravenlocke
20th June 2022, 20:03
https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1538965373042696192
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Mashika
20th June 2022, 20:14
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1538847346439573505
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Just think about it for a moment, the Ukrainian government is trying to destroy the very same cultural identity of Ukraine at any chance they have. Those are not Ukrainian people, those are US people
Novhorodske -> New York
It is embarrassing just to think about it lol... "New York" is the new name of the town.. It went from Novgorod to New York.
Why do i feel second hand embarrassment right now?
Let's rename a US city now as well :P
Washington -> Vashynhton -> Вашингтон :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
Mashika
20th June 2022, 20:20
How much dirt does the Ukrainian gov has on Biden, that he is willing to destroy the entire world to save his family and himself? It is becoming a joke just watching him twist so hard and bend backwards trying to please the Ukrainian masters. There must be way too much going on behind the scenes, imagine that, so how did the Ukrainian government managed to get Biden in such a position as to be the masters of the US? It is becoming now an obvious and public understanding that somehow Ukraine has something giant they are using against the US, and then we see how a puppet works to make the master happy
shookid
20th June 2022, 20:24
How much dirt does the Ukrainian gov has on Biden, that he is willing to destroy the entire world to save his family and himself? It is becoming a joke just watching him twist so hard and bend backwards trying to please the Ukrainian masters. There must be way too much going on behind the scenes, imagine that, so how did the Ukrainian government managed to get Biden in such a position as to be the masters of the US? It is becoming now an obvious and public understanding that somehow Ukraine has something giant they are using against the US, and then we see how a puppet works to make the master happy
I agree. I think it is evident that Biden is more concerned about protecting his son and name then us normies. The longer this drags out, the more we hear about Hunter's finances with questionable partners. Buckle up!
Mashika
20th June 2022, 20:29
Faina is more aware than most western regular adults, has seen war and has lived through a very hard childhood, and she's just 13 or so right now. And *she was put on the Ukrainian kill list not very long ago*, just imagine that, you are 13 and already on the kill list
No western politician has more experience in war than she does, and yet they 'don't have time' to listen to her. That fact puts the western government true nature in plain view
She gets dismissed because she's a kid, but those persons in the western government do not know that kids started the war against Ukraine in the first place, and what these kids have seen and gone through? Their ignorance of the reality of this world is beyond anything i could have imagined. They are, plainly said, ignorant and stupid
https://www.donbass-insider.com/2022/06/06/faina-savenkova-to-olaf-scholz-is-the-killing-of-children-in-the-last-8-years-not-genocide/
A year ago I asked the UN Security Council and UNICEF to work to stop Ukraine’s killing of children in the Donbass. Then there was a letter to President Zelensky, French President Macron, Pope Francis and Roger Waters. And now to the German chancellor Olaf Scholz. When I tried to reach them as serious politicians and public figures, I wanted only one thing: to be heard. That the killing of civilians in Donetsk and Gorlowka stops. But unfortunately the Chancellor is very busy and President Macron is on holiday. In their place, their assistants and butlers answer me. Maybe I’m doing all this for nothing. I don’t know. But I would like to believe that, apart from the politicians and the media, there are also normal people who don’t want war. Not in Germany, not in Europe. And one day they will surely find out that their governments have been telling them untruths all along. Well, I will keep fighting and writing. Maybe someone will listen to my appeal and save at least one child’s life in the Donbass.
Hello, Mr Scholz!
My name is Faina. I live in Lugansk, write plays and stories and try to fight for peace.
Eight years ago, on 26 May 2014, war broke out in my home country. And on 2 June, a Ukrainian plane bombed my hometown. During all this time, Germany and France acted as guarantors of peace, but could do nothing.
In one of your interviews you said that there was no genocide in the Donbass and that what was happening there was not genocide against the Russian population. Is the killing of children in the last 8 years not genocide? And the banning of the Russian language, the demolition of monuments to Pushkin, Chekhov, Bulgakov? Is that not genocide? Destruction and arrest of people who disagree with the authorities – isn’t that fascism? Isn’t the existence of the Mirotvorets website a violation of human rights?
I am a 13-year-old child and it is very difficult for me to influence the situation, so I have to ask adults for help. Mr Scholz, I would like to ask for your help and say that no weapons should be supplied to Ukraine, because this would only lead to more victims.
We may be considered separatists in Europe, but imagine if tomorrow a region in Europe wanted to talk about autonomy. And imagine instead of negotiating with them, for example, the government of Germany or Britain sends an army against them and starts bombing the capital of that region. Can you imagine something like that in Europe?
I would really like Germany not to get involved in a war, but to help solve the problem peacefully and get the Ukrainian president to come to the negotiating table.
Children cannot tell adults what to do. But they have a right to their view of things. And to ask for help.
Faina Savenkova
I received thee following answer:
Ответ Шолца - Answer of Scholz
Dear Faina,
Thank you for your letter of 27 May 2022 to Chancellor Olaf Scholz. Please understand that it is unfortunately not possible for the Federal Chancellor to reply to you personally. The unusually large number of letters does not allow this. However, you may rest assured that the Chancellor pays great attention to the expressions of opinion and will of the people who address him in this way. All letters are evaluated and incorporated into the formation of political opinion.
I thank you for sending me your personal reflections. They have been noted here.
Yours sincerely
On behalf of
Nadine Wachter
--
She has 'the eyes' of a war zone child, and that's very upsetting to me
https://www.donbass-insider.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/faina-savenkova-15042022.jpg
I can tell you this, ignorant government fools, you are creating a monster that you will not be able to handle later on, because of your own stupidity. She won't be a kid forever, she will grow up strong and smart, and you won't be able to stop her and others like her. Your demise comes from your own actions and stupidity, we are all the same here, and have the same feelings around this reality that you think 'doesn't exist', fools
And that frustration and your lack of care and will to hurt us is why she's going to probably end up like me at some point in life
https://www.donbass-insider.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/faina-major-petit-oiseau.jpg
ExomatrixTV
20th June 2022, 22:26
'The Old World Order Is Over': These Are The Key Points From Putin's Speech:
Western sanctions against Russia have had no effect. The economic blitzkrieg had no chance of success from the start. Russian President Vladimir Putin said this Friday at the International Economic Forum in St. Petersburg in a speech (https://www.rt.com/russia/557346-putin-spief-speech-takeaways/) that lasted more than an hour.
Putin called the sanctions "insane" and "ill-considered", and said they hit the EU especially hard. “The sanctions have exacerbated social and economic problems and made food, electricity and fuel more expensive.”
“The European Union has completely relinquished its political sovereignty. Its bureaucratic elites are dancing to someone else's tune and doing whatever they are told, harming their own population and economy," Putin said.
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The 'blind belief' in renewable energy sources and the suspension of energy contracts with Russia led to an energy price spike last year. Meanwhile, the United States and the EU have printed trillions of dollars and euros during the corona pandemic, the Russian leader said.
The policies pursued by European and American leaders are exacerbating inequalities and fueling further divisions. This will inevitably lead to a growth of populism and radical movements, major social and economic changes, decline and – in the near future – other elites, the Russian leader said.
Hampered by the West
Sanctions against Russia lead to increasing food insecurity. If a famine breaks out in the poorest countries "it is the fault of the US government and the European bureaucracy."
Russia stands ready to send food to Africa and the Middle East, where famine is most likely, but is "hampered by the West."
Old world order gone
Putin reiterated that Russia sent troops to Ukraine in February to protect its citizens and residents of Donbass from genocide by Kiev and neo-Nazis protected by the West.
The president also said that the old world order is over and that Russia is entering a new world order as "a powerful and modern country." The rules of that new world order are set by 'strong and sovereign states'.
Important reading
What the West Doesn't Realize: Putin is seen as a hero across much of Africa, Latin America and Asia. He is doing what other government leaders do not dare or cannot do: he has taken up battle with the imperialists in Washington, which they have cursed,' responds journalist Eric van de Beek.
“Putin explains that the US New World Order has come to an end. An important lecture, which only ended up in the margins in the western media,” adds journalist Joost Niemoller.
Investigative journalist Patrick Savalle states: “Putin's historic speech. The old world order is over. Western leaders have deceived their peoples. Colonialism has failed.”
source (https://www.ninefornews.nl/de-oude-wereldorde-is-voorbij-dit-zijn-de-belangrijkste-punten-uit-de-speech-van-poetin) (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳
Connecting The Dots: 20th of June 2022
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sources:
weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/emissions-fell-during-lockdown-keep-that-way (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/emissions-fell-during-lockdown-keep-that-way/)
theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/29/could-covid-lockdown-have-helped-save-the-planet (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/29/could-covid-lockdown-have-helped-save-the-planet)
greatreset.com (https://greatreset.com)
bbc.com/news/world-europe-61838543 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61838543)
Michel Leclerc
20th June 2022, 22:30
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The taste of a giant gulp of blood out your mouth as you try to breath while life is being drained out of you, is something i don't wish for anyone at all ever. You have no idea how that feels. So go in peace
And i hope you never, ever get to experience that stupidity.
With due respect Mashika, what is for you the "stupidity” in this context? I infer from your sentence that you have experienced “that”. Is that experience a “stupidity”? But why do you call it that way, then, instead of “a horrible experience", for instance?
Bill Ryan
20th June 2022, 22:56
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The taste of a giant gulp of blood out your mouth as you try to breath while life is being drained out of you, is something i don't wish for anyone at all ever. You have no idea how that feels. So go in peace
And i hope you never, ever get to experience that stupidity.
With due respect Mashika, what is for you the "stupidity” in this context? I infer from your sentence that you have experienced “that”. Is that experience a “stupidity”? But why do you call it that way, then, instead of “a horrible experience", for instance?Forgive me for this (if necessary!), but let me explain what I'm pretty sure she meant.
The meaningless loss of any life is 'stupid'. So, in this current situation, is a meaningless way for a person to die — a Ukrainian soldier, maybe, in the front lines with no food, ammunition or hope, with his dead friends in the ditch with him at his feet, defending a lost cause, who is someone's son, or husband, or father, with all their life in front of them if it were not for the war.
And 'stupid' decisions by our so-called leaders — almost every one of them any or all of ignorant, cowardly, and/or corrupt — that get good, honest people into these terrible, inescapable, life-ending situations.
In those and countless other ways, a huge amount of what we see, hear about and read about in the world out there is 'stupid'. There may be many other words to use, but that may well be one of the most fitting.
The topic of another thread, maybe this one — Why humans are unintelligent: it's all about belief (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114787-Why-humans-are-unintelligent-it-s-all-about-belief) — is why so many apparently intelligent people (good grades, good education, the best law school, etc etc) are systematically wrecking this planet, and the entire human race, right before our eyes.
Michel Leclerc
20th June 2022, 23:34
Thank you Bill. One can have many opinions about the relative importance of the causes of what people call "stupid".
I personally think that the root cause is moral depravity, outright evil: doing to others what you forbid anyone to do to yourself. Ignorance is excusable; it is moral depravity that leads people to use intelligence to harm.
Another cause of harm to others and oneself is what is maybe too easily called psychosis, but anyhow: a soul fracture resulting from harm experienced, leading people to do things which the "Father" may maybe "forgive because they do not know what they are doing".
Blanketing all that with the word "stupid" does not help. You can be sure that our enemies call Mashika’s analysis and red-blooded stand "stupid", as they will call your analysis "stupid" – because they know how intelligent they are and smirk at our amateur level chess playing.
If the end game of what we are witnessing leaves all Ukrainians and Donbasians dead, Europe and half of Russia and a few other countries a wasteland, will we then still say that all that happened because our leaders were stupid? Or will we say that half of them were evil and the others psychotic? And maybe, to the extent that we will then have proved that we were unable to fight them when it was possible, will we then call ourselves stupid, or will we rather concede that we are psychotic ourselves and maybe just a little less than half of us, evil?
Maybe you are less witness to that than I am: in the semi-rural, semi-small city world I live in in Southern France, the only judgment I hear my neighbours express about their, and indirectly my, political leaders is that they are "corrupt" and that they are "stupid". That very judgment, that is essentially a suppression of personal responsibility resulting from moral callousness, paralyses us and prevents us from revolutionising the system.
But I meant something else with my question to Mashika. I will take that up with her in a Private Message, as I should maybe have done in the first place. Thank you for implicitly suggesting so.
Mashika
20th June 2022, 23:58
Thank you Bill. One can have many opinions about the relative importance of the causes of what people call "stupid".
I personally think that the root cause is moral depravity, outright evil: doing to others what you forbid anyone to do to yourself. Ignorance is excusable; it is moral depravity that leads people to use intelligence to harm.
Another cause of harm to others and oneself is what is maybe too easily called psychosis, but anyhow: a soul fracture resulting from harm experienced, leading people to do things which the "Father" may maybe "forgive because they do not know what they are doing".
Blanketing all that with the word "stupid" does not help. You can be sure that our enemies call Mashika’s analysis and red-blooded stand "stupid", as they will call your analysis "stupid" – because they know how intelligent they are and smirk at our amateur level chess playing.
If the end game of what we are witnessing leaves all Ukrainians and Donbasians dead, Europe and half of Russia and a few other countries a wasteland, will we then still say that all that happened because our leaders were stupid? Or will we say that half of them were evil and the others psychotic? And maybe, to the extent that we will then have proved that we were unable to fight them when it was possible, will we then call ourselves stupid, or will we rather concede that we are psychotic ourselves and maybe just a little less than half of us, evil?
Maybe you are less witness to that than I am: in the semi-rural, semi-small city world I live in in Southern France, the only judgment I hear my neighbours express about their, and indirectly my, political leaders is that they are "corrupt" and that they are "stupid". That very judgment, that is essentially a suppression of personal responsibility resulting from moral callousness, paralyses us and prevents us from revolutionising the system.
But I meant something else with my question to Mashika. I will take that up with her in a Private Message, as I should maybe have done in the first place. Thank you for implicitly suggesting so.
Mostly everything has a side of stupidity on this reality, even dogs and cats sometime get frustrated by our lack of understanding, while we think we are usually the smarter ones
Imagine a soldier on the field that gets grazed by a bullet on the leg and then finds out that the BTR left without him, then he looks at the road and sees 20 km or so of walking alone in the afternoon, with a bleeding leg and no way out, then he realizes he can't walk over that road because he will be 'handled' by the enemy, so he has to do the run through the fields, and possibly twist an ankle over there since fields are uneven and full of holes and other stuff
That's a stupid situation to be in lol, but it is more stupid that he even managed to land himself into it in the first place. Stupid life choices
Everything in this reality has a side of stupidity to it, you just need to look and you can find it, most people never try to look up for it so they don't see it, but it's there all the time
When a dog poops in front of you and he looks in your direction and into your eyes, the dog is expressing trust and is looking at you as he/she is in a vulnerable situation and you are the only person that dog trusts, so he looks for you to feel safe and protected. But a lot of people think he's looking at you because you are looking at him and he's somehow ashamed you are watching him poop in public. And that's dumb and stupid reasoning of a very unaware person in the end
Stupidity permeates reality in every place, you just have to watch carefully and it's there all the time
So see, everything around the war situation is stupid:
- Stupid choice to join the army
- Stupid president who choses to go to war instead of just letting people be
- Stupid commander who sends you to the field without food or ammo
- Stupid captain who orders the BTR to leave without you
- Stupid choice to leave the food rations on the BTR because you did not want to carry that weight and now you are without food and having to walk 20 kilometers while hoping you can find some water and feeling very tired
- Stupid war is stupid
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The taste of a giant gulp of blood out your mouth as you try to breath while life is being drained out of you, is something i don't wish for anyone at all ever. You have no idea how that feels. So go in peace
And i hope you never, ever get to experience that stupidity.
With due respect Mashika, what is for you the "stupidity” in this context? I infer from your sentence that you have experienced “that”. Is that experience a “stupidity”? But why do you call it that way, then, instead of “a horrible experience", for instance?Forgive me for this (if necessary!), but let me explain what I'm pretty sure she meant.
The meaningless loss of any life is 'stupid'. So, in this current situation, is a meaningless way for a person to die — a Ukrainian soldier, maybe, in the front lines with no food, ammunition or hope, with his dead friends in the ditch with him at his feet, defending a lost cause, who is someone's son, or husband, or father, with all their life in front of them if it were not for the war.
And 'stupid' decisions by our so-called leaders — almost every one of them any or all of ignorant, cowardly, and/or corrupt — that get good, honest people into these terrible, inescapable, life-ending situations.
In those and countless other ways, a huge amount of what we see, hear about and read about in the world out there is 'stupid'. There may be many other words to use, but that may well be one of the most fitting.
The topic of another thread, maybe this one — Why humans are unintelligent: it's all about belief (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114787-Why-humans-are-unintelligent-it-s-all-about-belief) — is why so many apparently intelligent people (good grades, good education, the best law school, etc etc) are systematically wrecking this planet, and the entire human race, right before our eyes.
I think this is vey correct, thanks
It's all how i feel about this entire war thing right now
Mashika
21st June 2022, 00:26
- That's a nice resume you have, and i can see you graduated from a very good school, but there is a gap in your education, you finished 2 years late, can i ask why?
+ Sure you can! i took some time off in middle school to go to Ukraine and kill some people, after that i continued my normal life and education, as you can see
Stupidity (and laughter) ensues
Mashika
21st June 2022, 00:41
I propose Sergey Lavrov as the next president of the United States of America :P
Or as an alternative, but equally good, Maria Zakharova, she would be a better president than PedoBiden or Killary, for sure :P
On top of their high education and top level understanding of world affairs, they are actual grown up and fully functional adults
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/11490
DonbassDevushka/11490
ExomatrixTV
21st June 2022, 01:43
German Mainstream TV (ZDF (https://zdf.de)) Is Admitting What’s Become Increasingly Obvious: The West Is In Denial That Russia Has All But Won Its Military Conflict With Ukraine.
A guest of the German talk show program “
“I am afraid we are now faced with a situation where we now have to face an uncomfortable truth,” said journalist Wolfram Weimer last week. “And that is that Russia has won this war.”
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“Now, our chancellor is working with this language template: ‘Russia must not win this war. Ukraine must win,’” Weimer continued.
“I’m just wondering where this is headed politically, because in fact Russia has practically conquered the Donbas (https://www.npr.org/2022/06/16/1105420315/ukraine-outnumbered-russia-advances-donbas-milley) in just a matter of a few days. The area gains are huge, they are about as big as Holland and Belgium put together. The land connection to Crimea is there. That means, how is Russia supposed to lose this war now?”
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Weimer went on to say that Ukraine “does not have the strength” to militarily fight Russia despite receiving billions of dollars of weapons and assistance (https://dailycaller.com/2022/06/09/sending-40-billion-us-officials-red-flags/) from the West, and that Russia is “also winning the international game of sanctions.”
“The Chinese have jumped on Russia, the Indians are doing business like never before with Russia, important emerging countries like Brazil and South Africa have left the West — and the federal chancellor has a trip to South Africa, he was embarrassed on the open stage (https://www.voanews.com/a/south-africa-s-ramaphosa-russia-sanctions-hurt-bystander-countries/6587767.html), they don’t want sanctions. They don’t even want to talk about a war of aggression.”
Weimer pointed out that French President Emmanuel Macron’s conciliatory (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1626172/emmanuel-macron-ukraine-russia-war-olaf-scholz-kyiv-visit-latest)rhetoric of reaching a truce with Russia (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1626172/emmanuel-macron-ukraine-russia-war-olaf-scholz-kyiv-visit-latest) is a signal that Europe has lost political ground over the Ukraine conflict.
“That means we have also lost this international struggle for the majority. And I’m afraid we have to admit that, and because I assume that Macron’s initiative is based on realpolitick insight, we cannot win this war, we have to end it as quickly as possible and that is also of great value to start a diplomatic initiative,” Weimer said.
“That’s what I actually expect from our federal government, precisely because it was so reluctant to keep the channel to Moscow open, Berlin actually has to present a peace plan and I hope the trip to Kiev will result in [German Chancellor Olaf Scholz] doing so,” he concluded.
The West’s sanctions against Russia have backfired spectacularly.
The Russian ruble is now at a 5-year high against the U.S. dollar, and European nations have been forced to cut back on increasingly expensive (https://news.yahoo.com/russia-again-cuts-natural-gas-113052339.html)oil and natural gas that was previously supplied by Russia.
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And as Weimer noted, China, India, and other non-Western countries have ramped up commerce with Russia (https://www.businessinsider.com/china-india-saving-russia-economic-collapse-oil-gas-markets-imports-2022-4) since the sanctions came into effect.
Meanwhile, because of Ukraine and Russia’s key roles in global food production – namely wheat and fertilizers (https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-aud-nw-russia-ukraine-20220618-p3flmqj6rze4dozn7ugglbe42u-story.html) – food prices in the U.S. and Europe have spiked dramatically.
The majority of Americans don’t support U.S. intervention in the Ukraine war, (https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/11/americans-dont-want-war-with-russia-but-republicans-and-democrats-are-forcing-it-anyway/) and are much more worried about poor government leadership, soaring inflation, and high gas prices, according to a recent Statista poll.
https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/323380/public-opinion-on-the-most-important-problem-facing-the-us.jpg (https://www.statista.com/statistics/323380/public-opinion-on-the-most-important-problem-facing-the-us/)
source (https://www.newswars.com/russia-has-won-this-war-german-journalist-says-west-lying-about-ukraine-war/)
ExomatrixTV
21st June 2022, 01:58
American Fighters Who Surrendered In Donbass Speak To RT
Claiming disorganization and incompetence in Ukrainian military, the two US veterans have told fellow foreigners to stay at home
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Alexander Drueke speaks to RT after his surrender to Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, June 17, 2022 RT
Two American nationals have told RT that they surrendered to Russian forces after being abandoned by their Ukrainian commanders. The pair told veterans like them to “think twice” before making the trip to Ukraine.
Alexander Drueke and Andy Huynh spoke to RT from a detention center in the Donbass People’s Republic, a day after The Daily Telegraph reported that they had been taken prisoner. The British newspaper described them as being the first American citizens captured while fighting for Ukraine, and Washington has vowed to secure their return.
The two veterans – Drueke served two tours with the US Army in Iraq while Huynh worked in logistics for the Marine Corps in Okinawa, Japan – were captured just hours after being sent to the front lines near Kharkov last week. Under the command of Ukraine’s secret police, the SBU, Huynh said that the pair were sent to cover a Ukrainian retreat.
https://cdni.russiatoday.com/files/2022.06/xxs/62aaf3c785f54028163dfb6a.jpg (https://www.rt.com/news/557244-american-fighters-captured-ukraine/)
Read more (https://www.rt.com/news/557244-american-fighters-captured-ukraine/)
US reacts to reported capture of American fighters in Ukraine
(https://www.rt.com/news/557244-american-fighters-captured-ukraine/)
“We were told to post up on a little overlook,” Huynh recalled, describing how he was armed with a Czech CZ rifle and a Rocket-Propelled Grenade (RPG) launcher. Columns of Ukrainans retreated past their point, followed by armored vehicles and a tank belonging to either Russia or the DPR.
“When [the tank] shot the first time, I was readying my RPG,” Huynh said. He claimed that the tank shot at a different position moments later, and thinking it was firing upon him, Huynh shouldered his weapon and fired a rocket at the vehicle, but missed. With the Ukrainian troops gone, Huynh and Drueke “ran away and hid in a fighting hole,” as Russian vehicles and foot patrols passed by.
“We were initially supposed to do [reconnaissance] with drones,” Drueke told RT, “but when we got to our location there was already a battle of sorts in progress. Our plans changed…and one teammate and I were left in the woods.”
When the coast was clear, the Americans set off walking through a forest for several hours before Drueke said that they “took a wrong turn or a misstep and made it into a village. We were approached by a Russian patrol and immediately surrendered to them.”
https://cdni.russiatoday.com/files/2022.06/xxs/62acb5a485f5402c1d5b257a.jpg (https://www.rt.com/russia/557314-ukrainian-soldiers-frontline-donbass/)
Read more (https://www.rt.com/russia/557314-ukrainian-soldiers-frontline-donbass/)
'Sent to certain death': Why growing numbers of Ukrainian servicemen are refusing to fight on the Donbass frontlines
(https://www.rt.com/russia/557314-ukrainian-soldiers-frontline-donbass/)
Currently in captivity, the stakes for Drueke and Huynh are high. Last week, the Russia-allied Donetsk People’s Republic sentenced to death three foreign fighters captured during the battle for Mariupol, including two Britons. The republic’s top court ruled that they were mercenaries and thus not granted privileges that regular prisoners of war would enjoy under international law.
Both men described fair treatment at the hands of their Russian captors, describing how Russian troops gave them food, warm blankets and cigarettes. However, Drueke said that he has heard rumors that the pair could potentially be sentenced to death.
Drueke, who left the US military in 2014, initially set out for Ukraine without a clear plan. Flying to Poland with the intention of doing humanitarian work, he nevertheless brought military gear and said that he was prepared to fight, even if military service “was not the be-all and end-all.” He said that while he was distrustful of American news coverage, he believed that Ukraine’s struggle was being portrayed in a way that “would appeal to veterans like myself.”
Now, with Ukrainian shells falling on civilian targets (https://www.rt.com/russia/557149-donetsk-shelling-peskov-ukraine/) in the majority-Russian speaking city of Donetsk, he told RT that he realized “there are two sides to this story and I was not getting one of them.”
https://cdni.russiatoday.com/files/2022.06/xxs/62a9d4572030272eb04b7703.jpeg (https://www.rt.com/russia/557201-kievs-guilt-shelling-donetsk/)
Read more (https://www.rt.com/russia/557201-kievs-guilt-shelling-donetsk/)
Western media and politicians prefer to ignore the truth about civilians killed in Donetsk shelling
(https://www.rt.com/russia/557201-kievs-guilt-shelling-donetsk/)
Huynh said that he’d traveled to Ukraine in April and contacted a Polish priest overseeing humanitarian relief, but soon made contacts in Ukraine’s ‘International Legion.’ After joining the legion, he left shortly afterwards, citing corruption and disorganization within the ranks.
“Commanders were very corrupt and troops were very ill-prepared and supplied,” he said. Drueke also began his duty in Ukraine with the legion, where he said he was “dissatisfied with the caliber of person they had there.”
Both men traveled the country looking for a more competent unit to join, before ending up in the so-called ‘Task Force Baguette’ in eastern Ukraine, a foreign mercenary unit consisting mainly of American and French veterans. The unit confirmed (https://twitter.com/TFBaguette/status/1537001641114746880) on Wednesday that Drueke and Huynh – referred to by their nicknames ‘Bama’ and ‘Hate’ – had been captured.
“Watching the propaganda from the West, it says how glorious all Ukraine is, and when I came here I saw how not true that was,” Huynh told RT. “The Ukrainians say they’re the best, but from what I’ve seen, I’ve seen a lot of corruption.”
Drueke ended his interview with a warning. “Fellow veterans like me who are thinking of coming: don’t.”
“Think really long and hard about why you’re doing it and what can happen, and if this is really your fight,” he said. “If I make it out of this situation, I have a lot of things to think about.”
At time of writing, the US has not officially acknowledged the capture of Drueke and Huynh. According to Russian figures, 6,956 foreign citizens from 64 countries have arrived in Ukraine since February to fight for Kiev. Some 1,956 of those have been killed, while 1,779 have left the country, the Russian Defense Ministry stated (https://www.rt.com/russia/557327-foreign-fighters-ukraine-statistics/) on Friday.
source (https://www.rt.com/news/557340-us-fighters-captured-ukraine/)
ExomatrixTV
21st June 2022, 02:03
Whole World Turns Its Back On Joe Biden And The War In Ukraine
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source (https://banned.video/watch?id=62ab692fea9e0425a6bcd3a1)
pyrangello
21st June 2022, 04:03
40 bilion sent to a supposedly structured government that can't supply its own troops with adequate anything. Think about that , the u.s. Congress approved 4000 million dollars to a country where their president is supposedly in hiding.then you see stories like above. Or that cabinet members in Ukraine are buying 9 million dollar homes in Switzerland, or that zelensky has a house in Miami? Or so many u.s. politicians have skin in the game in Ukraine, or that the luxury car market in western Ukraine is still as viable as when all this crap began, then there's the biolabs, none of this makes any sense. Except for that Ukraine is known to be the 4th most corrupt country on the planet. All of this playing on the backdrop of humanitarian aid and sympathy of controlled photos and information let out like a slow drip of a broken faucet. I do feel for the people caught in the middle of this but as for the rest of this , it appears to be a pipeline of money going to who knows what and where all while uncle Joe takes his bike ride like the wicked witch of the West in the wizard of oz only there are no ruby red slippers but instead a huge black hole .
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Mashika
21st June 2022, 04:12
40 bilion sent to a supposedly structured government that can't supply its own troops with adequate anything. Think about that , the u.s. Congress approved 4000 million dollars to a country where their president is supposedly in hiding.then you see stories like above. Or that cabinet members in Ukraine are buying 9 million dollar homes in Switzerland, or that zelensky has a house in Miami? Or so many u.s. politicians have skin in the game in Ukraine, or that the luxury car market in western Ukraine is still as viable as when all this crap began, then there's the biolabs, none of this makes any sense. Except for that Ukraine is known to be the 4th most corrupt country on the planet. All of this playing on the backdrop of humanitarian aid and sympathy of controlled photos and information let out like a slow drip of a broken faucet. I do feel for the people caught in the middle of this but as for the rest of this , it appears to be a pipeline of money going to who knows what and where all while uncle Joe takes his bike ride like the wicked witch of the West in the wizard of oz only there are no ruby red slippers but instead a huge black hole .
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Exactly lol, could not have been said better
Most of that money will do a round around the world then go back to the US, and into some very specific bank accounts, the rest will remain out there, but on other accounts, as a 'payment for your service' kind of thing, for Elensky and associates
War makes people rich, if they are the one dealers behind the source of weapons and 'aid'
No one knows where the weapons go, but there is something that is certain, if other country starts to fall away from western control, it will require "freedom and democracy" soon enough
This is a war the US government needed, because they are losing control and need money to pay and buy empathy around the world 'allies'. Otherwise they will not be able to keep them aligned. The Ukrainian people will pay for all the armament and supplies sent from the west for several generations. But that can only happen if Ukraine remains a country in the next few months. If not, then the west will have lost a giant amount of money and will go under. Nuclear bombs will fly because the last thing a dying empire always does is go to war, and it's already obvious this is a war between the US and Russia, and we are not exactly dying here
This is not a war for Ukraine, this is a war for the US political elite, they won't survive this if Ukraine falls. And that's why they are willing to sacrifice "the European partners" in the first place. NATO was built in order to protect the US from Russia, as a buffer zone, it's a meat grinder intended to cause at some point a war between Europe and Russia, while the US gov waits it out and then finally steps in at the end, once Russia is weakened. This already happened in WW2, it's just a rehash of that
But the US gov has gotten slow and dumbed down by their own policies over time, that they don't understand that Russia never forgets, and takes notes and applies them in time
If/once the US elite goes down, a new, more aware and reasonable generation will take over, and they hopefully will not repeat the same mistakes the vultures at the white house are doing
Think about it, most, if not all of the top level leaders are always old people, and affected in their choices and wills by obsolete, long gone ideals or concepts (like the USSR being Russia only, and not the other countries) or by ideologies that don't apply at all to the current reality of this planet. They just don't know better!
If you look at this current world, from a WW2 perspective, and you don't get that it is not the same world, then how are your decisions good enough? They are not at all, it is a mistake, a deadly one, and that's why we are in this situation right now.
Ravenlocke
21st June 2022, 04:18
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1538997826402787329
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Mashika
21st June 2022, 04:22
https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1538997826402787329
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The music at the beginning.. lmao!
Thanks for posting that, i can't read the twitter thread, but i was able to get the youtube version, so that's very cool, thanks
Mashika
21st June 2022, 04:30
Back in ATS (yes, that site) there is a kind of marvelous example of how some western minds work
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1312609/pg1
Due to sanctions hitting Russia, their vehicles are not being built with safety features.
No Airbags.
Anti-Lock Braking Systems.
Seat Belt Pretensioners.
No GPS.
Emmision Controls are a thing of the past.
Dude.. you in the US can't even feed your babies and people have to go to Mexico to get fuel at a reasonable price. You are a third world country, but let's make fun of Russia because of the sanctions....
This is you right now, ats guy, i won't post the full image but there is a head inside a butt, that's how it truly is by now lol
https://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/headupass.jpg
The level of unawareness back there at ATS is magnificent! So in that aspect, they are indeed 'unique' and 'the best site on the world' as the claim goes
Mashika
21st June 2022, 04:34
RussianTroll on ATS, i think he's Vatnik lol, but i can't confirm
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/mem/russiantroll
But if you read his threads, that guy is/was at Donetsk very likely, at the time this started, and he definitely a military guy, he knows stuff and even if he goes sometimes way too much 'nationalistic' i find he is not unaware and he actually comes through with real info and valid opinions
Looks like he was banned already, maybe he should be invited here :)
ETA:
Batnik lol, he was around at the time this crazyness started, he was a military commander in Lugansk, or a rank i believe in the US would be similar to that. But i can't remember right now
He is Vasilevsky Anatolyevich
He has a youtube channel these days in which he makes fun of a lot of western stuff, and even sometimes play the "talking head" part as in the news channels. It's very funny to watch when that happens lmao
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp0FvLMrpGGiMd4UaRpfjYw
And he is writing a book about the Donbass war in 2014
https://skald.su/
A book about the war in the Donbass. PLATOON: History of the reconnaissance platoon LNOB ZARYA
A book about the war in the Donbass. The book tells about the events of spring-autumn 2014 in the LNR
You'll have to use a translator, sorry, but the site is not in English
The book is free but also once again, only a russian version of it exists, it's very hard to find the resources to do a good job translation
But he's the real thing. And yes i think/feel that 'RussianTroll' in ATS is Vatnik :)
And lol a this thread, the hate is palpable and tasteless, and based/born out of that idiotic bubble of ignorance called "Exceptionalism". Just go read though it all, it's amazingly dumb, so in a way, it is actually "exceptional" :silent::ROFL:
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1313074/pg1
Mashika
21st June 2022, 08:12
An uplifting video, let's try to have a more beautiful/bright look at this life for a bit at least :)
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But you should know that this is a very dangerous task, this is an 'i may get killed' task, because they could be considered scouts, and then they will be killed by ukros
Because there is a very hard policy of "if you take any aid from Russia we will kill you all" going on, and these guys are doing something here that Ukraine's law has deemed "illegal"
ExomatrixTV
21st June 2022, 14:15
Say NO to EU membership for Ukraine
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt and unstable countries in the world.1 As the poorest nation in Europe,2 it is notorious for the extensive political influence wielded by organized crime families active within its borders and the harrowing levels of human trafficking.3 Tragically, children in Ukraine are subjected to the worst forms of child labour and little effort has been made to stop this dismal practice.4 This is a country that is home to millions of people who wish to migrate to the EU and flood our nations with cultural and economic tensions. Most strikingly, the country is currently embroiled in a devastating war with Russia and hopes for peace are dwindling as negotiations have come to a grinding halt.
In spite of all this, and apparently blind to these realities, European leaders have disastrously offered Ukraine a fast track to EU membership.
Economic burden
Such membership would draw our continent into a direct war with Russia; an undesirable conflict for which we are woefully unprepared. It would also result in massive inflows of migrants from Ukraine, adding to the social and economic burden of mass migration borne by many EU nations. Finally, the mere cost of membership for Ukraine has been estimated to be at least €200 million PER DAY!5
We have to stop this. With the support of 1 million EU citizens from at least 7 different EU countries, we can launch an official European Citizens’ Initiative to block this disastrous plan.
Join us and say NO
Sign and share our petition now and help us to reach the phenomenal threshold of 1 million signatures. It is time to send a clear message to the political elites wishing to go down this fatal path: we, the citizens of Europe, say NO to EU membership for Ukraine!
Sources
[1] “Corruptions Perceptions Index”, Transparency International, accessible at 2021 Corruption Perceptions Index - Explore the… - Transparency.org (https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2021?gclid=CjwKCAjwqauVBhBGEiwAXOepkWeykW7V36h-8LGRjEsWjdKDt4RzAPAE64amwQjnYoqyqxWa2hLWXRoCRlsQAvD_BwE)
[2] World Population Review, accessible at Poorest Countries in Europe 2022 (worldpopulationreview.com) (https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poorest-countries-in-europe)
[3] Global Organized Crime Index, accessible at Criminality in Ukraine - The Organized Crime Index (ocindex.net) (https://ocindex.net/country/ukraine)
[4] Bureau of International Labor Affairs, ”2020 Findings on the Worst Forms of Child Labor”, accessible at Findings on the Worst Forms of Child Labor - Ukraine | U.S. Department of Labor (dol.gov) (https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/resources/reports/child-labor/ukraine)
[5] Reuters, “Ukraine War: Country needs $7bn a month in aid, Zelensky says”, BBC News, accessible at Ukraine War: Country needs $7bn a month in aid, Zelensky says - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61184275)
source (https://petities.fvd.nl/stop-eu-expansion)
Bill Ryan
21st June 2022, 15:14
Back in ATS (yes, that site) there is a kind of marvelous example of how some western minds work
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1312609/pg1
Due to sanctions hitting Russia, their vehicles are not being built with safety features.
No Airbags.
Anti-Lock Braking Systems.
Seat Belt Pretensioners.
No GPS.
Emmision Controls are a thing of the past.
Dude.. you in the US can't even feed your babies and people have to go to Mexico to get fuel at a reasonable price. You are a third world country, but let's make fun of Russia because of the sanctions....
This is you right now, ats guy, i won't post the full image but there is a head inside a butt, that's how it truly is by now lol
https://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/headupass.jpg
The level of unawareness back there at ATS is magnificent! So in that aspect, they are indeed 'unique' and 'the best site on the world' as the claim goesThat's so funny. :) My old jeep (a 1986 Isuzu Trooper, 400,000 km) has none of those — and also no electric windows, no radio, no heating, no A/C, and no computerized engine management control.
But I don't need any of that, not at all, and it also means it's very easy and cheap to keep on the road. And if there's ever an EMP or CME that knocks out everything electrical, it'll be totally unaffected. :muscle:
https://projectavalon.net/Mara_and_Pandora_original.jpg
:focus:
kfm27917
21st June 2022, 15:59
There are 3 centers of "Western decision making" that are not in NATO territory that I can think of:
1 Davos during WEF meetings
2. Geneva
3. Jerusalem
Just a thought....
kfm27917
21st June 2022, 17:00
For Ukrainian troops, a need arises: Javelin customer service
https://www.sott.net/article/468945-For-Ukrainian-troops-a-need-arises-Javelin-customer-service
ExomatrixTV
21st June 2022, 18:40
Zelenskyy Bans Books & Hangs Out With Ben Stiller As Opposition Party Banned!:
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Zelenskyy Bans Books & Hangs Out With Ben Stiller As Opposition Party Banned!
Bill Ryan
21st June 2022, 18:52
For Ukrainian troops, a need arises: Javelin customer service
https://www.sott.net/article/468945-For-Ukrainian-troops-a-need-arises-Javelin-customer-serviceThis is all farcical, and well worth reading. It really looks like the supply of weapons is all for headline-grabbing PR purposes, and nothing to do with them actually being able to be used.
A 258-page user manual (in English, requiring Google Translate), and a 1-800 freephone helpline that seems to go to a customer relations desk. This is worthy of Monty Python — or maybe Johnny English, or Get Smart. :)
Bill Ryan
21st June 2022, 19:07
This post is not meant to be unkind. But considering the hundreds of tragic testimonies recorded on this thread,
Recent Cardiac Events Amongst Sports People (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116806-Recent-Cardiac-Events-Amongst-Sports-People)
... one wonders how many fully-vaxxed mercenaries and Ukrainian soldiers have keeled over and died under the stress of combat and maybe running as fast as they could carrying heavy backpacks or other loads. Mashika might categorize that as 'stupid' as well.
Spiral
21st June 2022, 19:07
For Ukrainian troops, a need arises: Javelin customer service
https://www.sott.net/article/468945-For-Ukrainian-troops-a-need-arises-Javelin-customer-serviceThis is all farcical, and well worth reading. It really looks like the supply of weapons is all for headline-grabbing PR purposes, and nothing to do with them actually being able to be used.
A 258-page user manual (in English, requiring Google Translate), and a 1-800 freephone helpline that seems to go to a customer relations desk. This is worthy of Monty Python — or maybe Johnny English, or Get Smart. :)
I've seen a very tragic post on telegram, the recovered phone of a Ukrainian soldier, someone had brought up the last searches on it, on a cracked screen it showed frantic searches for Javelin instructions & problems. It's not hard to envision the scene as a desperate young man tries to get this supposed miracle piece of kit to work as the Russian advances on his position, whether he fled or died is unknown, but who leaves their phone behind ?
I say young man because the only other search was for "Stranger Things series 4", a horrible reminder that they are all just people regardless of what uniform they wear.*
*Unless it's a nazi (Azov, Kraken, etc), they have forgone human status.
ExomatrixTV
21st June 2022, 21:26
Artillery of June 2022:
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From Bill:
John, please be sure to add some description to the videos you post so as not to waste readers' time if they're not interested in that particular issue. I know this is military analyst Andrei Martyanov, but quite a few other readers may not. But I don't know what he addresses in this video without watching it, and right now I don't have time.
Thanks :highfive:
ExomatrixTV
21st June 2022, 21:29
German TV Guest Tells TRUTH About The Ukraine War:
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Anti-war voices are virtually unheard from in most of the U.S. media, and that even includes anyone who suggests that Ukraine is losing the war against Russia and needs to cut its losses and negotiate peace. German television is not quite so restrictive, it turns out, which is why journalist Wolfram Wiemer was allowed to echo these very sentiments during a recent program where he unequivocally insisted that the war was lost and Ukraine must acknowledge that fact and work quickly to find a diplomatic solution before the nation’s losses become even more severe at Russia’s hands. Jimmy and his panel of The Dive’s Jackson Hinkle and American comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the status of the War in Ukraine and Jimmy’s talents for reading along to spoken German.
Ravenlocke
21st June 2022, 22:36
Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom
Ukraine Russia War Update - Col Douglas Macgregor
Col. Douglas Macgregor: Ukraine has lost this war. It's now becoming so apparent that even the most ardent supporters of it - London-Paris-Berlin-Washington - can't stand up and say anything else. Ukraine's army is annihilated, reservists are being thrown into the buzzsaw...
Col. Douglas Macgregor: Ukraine is now a failed state. It's collapsed. People are being pushed at gunpoint into Russian fire.
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Mashika
21st June 2022, 22:39
Back in ATS (yes, that site) there is a kind of marvelous example of how some western minds work
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1312609/pg1
Due to sanctions hitting Russia, their vehicles are not being built with safety features.
No Airbags.
Anti-Lock Braking Systems.
Seat Belt Pretensioners.
No GPS.
Emmision Controls are a thing of the past.
Dude.. you in the US can't even feed your babies and people have to go to Mexico to get fuel at a reasonable price. You are a third world country, but let's make fun of Russia because of the sanctions....
This is you right now, ats guy, i won't post the full image but there is a head inside a butt, that's how it truly is by now lol
https://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/headupass.jpg
The level of unawareness back there at ATS is magnificent! So in that aspect, they are indeed 'unique' and 'the best site on the world' as the claim goesThat's so funny. :) My old jeep (a 1986 Isuzu Trooper, 400,000 km) has none of those — and also no electric windows, no radio, no heating, no A/C, and no computerized engine management control.
But I don't need any of that, not at all, and it also means it's very easy and cheap to keep on the road. And if there's ever an EMP or CME that knocks out everything electrical, it'll be totally unaffected. :muscle:
https://projectavalon.net/Mara_and_Pandora_original.jpg
:focus:
It doesn't need all those features, it has an "advanced intelligence copilot guidance system" no other truck has :heart2:
ExomatrixTV
21st June 2022, 23:43
‘Ukraine Has Lost This War’: Top Army Colonel Says West ‘Doubling Down on Failure’:
Ukraine has lost its war with Russia, but some Western leaders want to keep it going with the “real goal” of getting the United States into a direct conflict with Russia, warned retired Army Colonel Douglas MacGregor.
“Ukraine has lost this war. I would argue it lost it some time ago,” MacGregor said Tuesday on Judge Andrew Napolitano’s podcast “Judging Freedom.”
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“It’s now becoming so apparent that even the most ardent supporters of Ukraine’s war on Russia in London, Berlin, Paris, and Washington can’t really stand up and say anything else. I suppose some will, but the truth is the war is over.”
MacGregor painted a bleak picture of the Ukrainian military’s widespread logistical failures and Russia’s subsequent actions in the Donbas region.
“The Ukrainians are losing on a daily basis somewhere between 500 and 1,000 dead and wounded. Their army is effectively annihilated,” MacGregor explained. “They’re throwing reservists – the equivalent of what we would call National Guardsmen – into the buzzsaw. And the Russians are very calmly and methodically annihilating whatever shows up. The Russians have already begun consolidating their control over 25 to 30% of Ukraine where the Ukrainian forces were previously paused to attack Russia.”
And now that Russia controls the economically vital region of Ukraine, it will soon annex it into the Federation, he predicted.
“They now control territory that is responsible for roughly 80% of Ukraine’s gross national product. So I expect the Russians will hold onto this and incorporate it into Russia. It will be annexed. It was historically Russian, it is again,” MacGregor said.
MacGregor, a former senior adviser to the Secretary of Defense under Trump, warned that Western leaders are still in denial and some even want the war to continue in perpetuity with the “extremely dangerous” end goal of getting the U.S. directly involved in a hot war with Russia.
“As far as how this will end, we have a lot of people who seemed to be determined that it will not end. And that is extremely dangerous because the longer this lasts, the greater the potential for this regional conflict to widen and engulf more countries, and ultimately to drag us in, which some people think is the real goal — as incomprehensible as that may seem.”
Meanwhile, Joe Biden’s cabinet is keeping him in the dark and “running the show” in Ukraine and “doubling down on failure” in the hopes that they can pull off a win to save their credibility, he claimed.
Our friend President Biden is sort of a mushroom: they keep him in a dark place and feed him crap. I think [Domestic Policy Council director] Susan Rice, [National Security Adviser] Jake Sullivan, [Secretary of State Antony] Blinken – oligarchs, frankly, rich powerful figures that control the Democrat party, and let’s face it, the large portions of Republican party who dominate Washington – they all have much more influence now than Americans realize.
They’re running the show. They’re not telling Joe Biden anything they don’t want him to know, but more important, they’re riding this train to oblivion. And they’re not going to get off, and they’re throwing more coal into the locomotive with each passing day. They’re doubling down on failure in the belief that if they just hang on long enough, somehow, miraculously, they’re going to win.
They’re destroying NATO, they’re tearing Europe apart, Europeans are finally beginning to wake up to the disaster. They’ve lost control of Eastern Europe.
“Ukraine is now a failed state. It’s collapsed,” he added. “People are being pushed at gunpoint into Russian fire. The whole thing is a disaster. But no one wants to admit failure because if they admit failure, they lose all credibility.”
This comes as Europeans are beginning to realize the protracted war in Ukraine cannot be won, as Russia reinforces economic ties with China and India, and the ruble hits a 5-year high despite Western sanctions which have so far only managed to hurt regular Americans and Europeans.
French President Emmanuel Macron called for the “Ukrainian president and his leaders” to “negotiate with Russia,” adding that the West has “done all we can.”
A German talk show also admitted that Russia has all but won the war in Ukraine and that Western leaders need to level with the public about that development and seek a diplomatic solution with Russia to end the conflict.
MacGregor first forecasted the Ukrainian military’s path to defeat as early as March 2nd, just a week after Russia first launched its military operation in Ukraine.
source (https://www.infowars.com/posts/ukraine-has-lost-this-war-top-army-colonel-says-west-doubling-down-on-failure/) :dog:
Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 00:52
https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/status/1539226142644879360
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pounamuknight
22nd June 2022, 05:05
A Letter by Dmitry Melnikov
in the memory of the fallen heroes of Donbass
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Write me then, as if alive, a letter
but write about happiness, not about grief.
Write to me about what you see through the window
The endless blue sea
that a blue boat is sailing upon
rich in the silver catch
that the space fleet flies above
snow-white Russian cotton wool.
I broke time with my hands like steel
kissed him on black lips.
Write about love, do not write about sadness
write that I took Mariupol.
Write.
I will not give you to anyone, my dear,
we will see you soon.
I’m not dead, I am sleeping,
the Sea of Azov is approaching my feet.
happyuk
22nd June 2022, 07:06
NATO sending all their ATGM's which are getting captured in the thousands and now NATO-trained captured Ukrainians teach Russians in the exact training of these weapons systems.
You couldn't make it up how stupid the west is in this war.
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Bill Ryan
22nd June 2022, 11:46
Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom
Ukraine Russia War Update - Col Douglas Macgregor
Col. Douglas Macgregor: Ukraine has lost this war. It's now becoming so apparent that even the most ardent supporters of it - London-Paris-Berlin-Washington - can't stand up and say anything else. Ukraine's army is annihilated, reservists are being thrown into the buzzsaw...
Col. Douglas Macgregor: Ukraine is now a failed state. It's collapsed. People are being pushed at gunpoint into Russian fire.
e4rWfPPR-V8 I'm delighted to hear from Col. Douglas Macgregor again, as on his own channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvT7auiBNuA87gw64Me1i2Q/videos) he's not posted anything new for two months. This is excellent as always, as good a concise, authoritative. intelligent, acutely honest summary of the situation right now as anyone could wish for to show someone else who might have been buying into all the western media misinformation.
I am B
22nd June 2022, 12:26
Crazy crazy footage of a supposed attack of a russian ammo depot behind enemy lines on the 16th. (According to the tweet)
Idk about authenticity etc, just some nasty hell on earth footage.
The tweet responses have the full footage.
Viewer disretion is advised, but no gorey or deaths at all.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1539427449397813250
Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 13:30
https://www.donbass-insider.com/2022/06/21/julian-assange-alina-lipp-and-anne-laure-bonnel-when-truth-becomes-a-crime-in-the-west/
Julian Assange, Alina Lipp, and Anne-Laure Bonnel – when truth becomes a crime in the West
Julian Assange, Alina Lipp and Anne-laure Bonnel are three journalists who are paying a high price for telling the truth in the West: attempts to suffocate them financially, followed by censorship, threats of imprisonment or imprisonment altogether, and even physical and psychological torture in the case of Assange. These three cases illustrate perfectly the reality of “democracy” in the West.
The case of Julian Assange, whose extradition has just been approved by the British authorities, is the most publicized and the most revealing of what can happen to a Western journalist who dares to tell the truth.
In 2006, Julian Assange founded Wikileaks, a non-governmental, non-profit organisation, which publishes classified documents provided by whistleblowers on its website. The site has since published millions of documents concerning human rights violations, corruption scandals and, above all, war crimes.
In 2010, just as the website was about to publish documents on the war in Iraq, Julian Assange’s request for a work and residence permit was refused by Sweden. He had chosen Sweden because of its strict legislation on the protection of journalistic sources. But to reveal the war crimes of the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan is to incur the wrath of Washington and the American military-industrial complex. This is where the descent into hell begins for Julian Assange.
In 2011 the attempt to financially suffocate the Wikileaks website began. Visa, Mastercard, Bank of America, PayPal and Western Union organized a financial blockade of Wikileaks, reducing the organization’s income by 95%, which then turned to crypto-currencies to escape financial suffocation.
From 2012 onwards, censorship through massive computer attacks against the site is launched. The aim is to try to prevent people from accessing the millions of documents published on the site. For the record, it was Wikileaks that helped Edward Snowden get out of Hong Kong and gain political asylum in Russia.
In parallel, from 2010 to 2012, Julian Assange was placed under probation in the United Kingdom following a charge of sexual offence made in Sweden in 2010. Assange denounced this as a bogus charge, the sole purpose of which was to send him to Sweden from where he could be extradited to the US. Following the refusal of the UK Supreme Court to reject the extradition request to Sweden, Julian Assange took refuge on 19 June 2012 in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he lived in seclusion for seven years, under surveillance by Scotland Yard and the CIA.
In 2017, the CIA envisaged the pure and simple assassination of Julian Assange in the Ecuadorian embassy. But given the risk of international scandal that this would cause, the CIA gave up and opted for a more discreet and perverse plan.
On 11 April 2019, Julian Assange loses his Ecuadorian nationality obtained two years earlier, as well as his right to asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy, from which he is forcibly removed by British police officers. He was then sent to prison in Belmarsh, and the “sexual offence” case was closed by Sweden for lack of evidence a few months after his arrest, proving if it were necessary that this case was just a pretext.
For three years, Julian Assange and his lawyers fought to prevent his extradition to the United States, where he faces up to 175 years in prison! All to no avail. And during all this time, Julian Assange has been subjected to conditions of detention that are tantamount to torture: total isolation, insufficiently heated cell in winter, lack of care. Julian Assange’s condition deteriorated rapidly in these conditions, and several experts and doctors were indignant and described what was inflicted on him in Belmarsh prison as torture.
If sent to the United States, Julian Assange could be sent to Guantanamo, or elsewhere, and tortured like many other prisoners. His case should serve as an example to discourage other Western journalists from revealing inconvenient truths.
And we see that the Assange case may soon no longer be an exception. Two independent journalists, the German Alina Lipp and the French Anne-Laure Bonnel, who have been outspoken about what is happening in the Donbass, are now seeing the Western censorship machine turn on them.
Alina Lipp, who spent six months in the Donbass in 2022, telling the truth about the Ukrainian army’s war crimes, including in Mariupol, is now facing censorship.
See her two-part interview in English on Telegram:
After a first visit in 2021, she was shocked by the war crimes committed by the Ukrainian army against the civilians of Donbass. She returned at the beginning of 2022 and stayed for six months. She openly recounts and reports on the war crimes committed by Ukrainian soldiers against the civilians of Marioupol, for example.
An inconvenient truth in Berlin. So Alina Lipp’s PayPal account was blocked. Then her bank account, as well as that of her father, was closed, and the German state deducted without any justification about 1,600 euros that were still in her account. As in the Assange case, the technique of financial asphyxiation is used to silence dissident voices. Then comes censorship, with the closure of her YouTube account, where she published her reports.
And as in the case of Julian Assange, the law soon came to threaten Alina Lipp. A criminal case was opened against the journalist for supporting crimes. Because she dared to say that what Ukraine is doing in Donbass is genocide, that she understands why Russia intervened, why it launched its special military operation, and that the people she knows in Donetsk are happy that Moscow is intervening. Just because of that, for giving her opinion and telling the truth, Alina Lipp faces up to three years in prison!
You can download the document in PDF here:
Even more delirious, at the end of the indictment document, it is written that Alina Lipp will not be invited to a hearing (to defend herself) as this would disrupt the investigation process (sic)! Unsurprisingly, Alina Lipp will not return to Germany, so as not to suffer the same fate as Julian Assange.
And if some believe that what is happening to Alina Lipp could not happen in France, they should look at what is happening to Anne-Laure Bonnel. This French freelance journalist who came to the Donbass in 2015 and 2022, and who also spoke openly about the Ukrainian army’s war crimes in the Donbass.
Not surprisingly, she found herself alongside Alina Lipp and myself in the “article” in the rag Le Monde on “dangerous pro-Russian influencers”. In reality, this article is just one of many in a coordinated attack by ISD, yet another organisation claiming to fight disinformation in several Western countries, but which in reality serves to justify censorship. The accusations made against “pro-Russian influencers” by ISD have indeed been picked up by several media, in France, Germany, the United States, and surely elsewhere (I don’t have the means to check the entire world press).
Anne-Laure Bonnel has also been directly and personally attacked by several French media outlets who have simply denigrated her, even defamed her. And as in the case of Julian Assange, or Alina Lipp, the authorities are using financial suffocation to try to silence her.
As in the case of Alina Lipp, Anne-Laure Bonnel’s bank account was temporarily blocked by her bank, Société Générale, and her contract with the Sorbonne University was not renewed.
A method that was also used against Donbass Insider, who had his Patreon account and his Tipeee account blocked (via the payment provider for Tipeee) for the same reasons: to try to silence us.
Although Alina Lipp and Anne-Laure Bonnel are not yet in the terrible situation Julian Assange is in, his case should make everyone realize that Western countries are only democratic in name, and that what is happening to this journalist today could well happen to them one day soon, if they happen to tell an inconvenient truth. That is why we must fight to prevent Assange from being extradited to the United States. To prevent telling the truth from being considered a crime!
For as Martin Niemöller so aptly put it:
“They came for the socialists first, and I didn’t say anything
Because I was not a socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I said nothing
Because I wasn’t a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews, and I said nothing
Because I wasn’t a Jew
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to defend me.
Today they come for Julian Assange, Alina Lipp, Anne-Laure Bonnel, or myself. But one day they will come for you. So act now! Demand that Julian Assange’s extradition to the US be cancelled! Let it be known that you do not want a society where truth is a crime!
Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 13:45
Very sad…meaningless loss of life for insane, greedy rulers😢
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Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 14:03
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Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 14:08
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Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 14:39
https://thecradle.co/Article/News/12095
By News Desk - June 22 2022
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According to a 21 June report from Russian state-owned RIA Novosti, a special monitoring body from Belarus has presented evidence to a visiting Iraqi delegation of the abuse and killing of Iraqi refugees by the Polish army on the Poland-Belarus border.
The special monitoring body is known as the Investigative Committee of Belarus.
The report cited a statement from the official website of the Investigative Committee, which outlined the evidence presented to the Iraqi delegation.
Belarus presented the Iraqi delegates with evidence of what they say were Polish crimes against humanity, war propaganda, and deliberate failure to provide assistance to refugees, which resulted in the deaths of many of the refugees.
“Belarusian investigators have documented criminal actions committed against 135 Iraqi citizens, who were physically injured in the violence used against them by Polish security forces,” the statement read.
Belarus is investigating three specific cases of deliberate bodily harm and expulsion from EU territory into Belarus, which led to the deaths of Iraqi refugees who were subjected to violent treatment.
Minsk also accused Poland of the execution and secret burials of refugees. They further alleged that the abuse and killing of refugees was discriminatory against those originating from West Asia and Afghanistan, which included a large number of Iraqi refugees.
The International Criminal Court (ICC) will start to investigate the statements of the Belarusian committee in February 2023.
A high number of migrants, hoping to connect with their relatives in western Europe, arrived in Belarus as a transit point. Many stationed themselves along the border with Poland.
Western media have accused Minsk and Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko of using migrants as a tool to create pressure on its western European adversaries, such as Poland.
Belarus denies these claims, stating that many of the refugees are in Belarus, due to being forcibly expelled by Lithuania, Poland, and Latvia.
President Lukashenko further denied the claims during an interview with British state-funded BBC in November 2021, stating: “I told them [the EU] I’m not going to detain migrants on the border, hold them at the border, and if they keep coming from now on I still won’t stop them, because they’re not coming to my country, they’re going to yours.”
The Belarusian leader further confirmed to the BBC that Minsk had shut down various Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) suspected of being western-funded fronts for covert regime change operations in the country.
On 25 January, Polish border security announced the construction of a 186km long border fence to prevent the crossing of migrants on their way to Germany and other western European states through Poland.
Refugees who arrive to western Europe often face mistreatment and harsh living conditions, according to reports about migrant living conditions in the UK and Germany.
Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 15:00
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Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 15:57
https://www.rt.com/russia/557608-us-comments-kaliningrad-blockade/
US comments on blockade of Russian exclave
The US says that it “appreciates” anti-Russian sanctions imposed by EU nations and that its military is committed to the defense of Lithuania, after the country banned some Russian goods from passing through its territory to the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad.
Ned Price, the spokesman for the US state department, dismissed Moscow’s displeasure with the Lithuanian blockade of its territory as “saber-rattling” and “bluster.” Speaking at a daily briefing, he said he didn’t want to “give it additional time.”
“We, of course, appreciate the unprecedented economic measures that many countries around the world… including in this case Lithuania, have joined us in taking against Russia for its unprovoked war in Ukraine,” he said.
Price said that the US would protect Lithuania from any military attack, as is due under its NATO obligations.
“Lithuania has been a stalwart partner in this. We stand by NATO. We stand by our NATO Allies, and we stand by Lithuania,” he said.
'Casus belli': What Kaliningrad blockade means for Russia
'Casus belli': What Kaliningrad blockade means for Russia
The row between Russia and its Baltic neighbor erupted last week after Lithuania started blocking the transit of goods between mainland Russia and Kaliningrad region. The partial restrictions came into force last Saturday, with Vilnius claiming it was a natural part of enforcing EU sanctions against Russian trade. Roughly half of the traffic is estimated to be affected. The banned items include coal, metals, and construction materials.
Moscow said the restrictions were crossing every line and warned that there would be serious consequences for what it described as a Lithuanian blockade of its exclave. The decision clearly violated international law, the Russian government noted. Some experts suggested that it could even amount to a casus belli – a cause to start a war over.
Kaliningrad region is sandwiched between Poland and Lithuania and has access to the Baltic Sea, which technically allows Russia to ferry goods to it. The relatively small exclave also hosts a significant number of Russian troops and weapon systems, making it a key component in the country’s national security.
Bill Ryan
22nd June 2022, 16:08
An excellent, half-hour long, detailed and informed discussion about the entire Kaliningrad-Lithuania situation, from The Duran.
I have to say, for what it's worth, that Russia would be wise to turn the other cheek to what is obviously a deliberate provocation and just support Kaliningrad by sea, which it easily can. That seems to be the response right now.
But if there were to be western naval interference in those sea supplies, then the world will be at war and that's when we'd start to see Russia sinking NATO ships in the Baltic Sea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp7shqAO8EU
Bill Ryan
22nd June 2022, 17:35
Breaking News: It's all over. Russia clearly has to surrender now.
Ukraine now has killer robots with machine guns (https://taskandpurpose.com/news/machine-gun-robot-ukraine-russia/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v26RmVUfpxU
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Ravenlocke
22nd June 2022, 17:48
In Mariupol abandoned SBU office secret documents etc found.
I managed to work thoroughly in the Mariupol department of the Security Service of Ukraine. I want to immediately express my gratitude to the SBU staff for neglecting the safety of state secrets and the abundance of material provided for analysis. Just a huge number of official and secret documents were scattered on the floor and left in safes. Together with my comrade Colonel @kommunist Vitaly Kiselyov we opened several repositories and found a lot of interesting documents.
Secret disks and SD cards, documents for cooperation with the SBU, telephone wiretaps, requests to state institutions - all this and much more we found in the safes of SBU employees. Now there is a thorough analysis of the documents that will help identify the criminals. I have no doubt about it!
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Bill Ryan
22nd June 2022, 22:20
There have been several [unsuccessful!] western attempts to persuade African nations to condemn Russia's military actions. On 20 June, Zelensky tried to hold a kind of African summit of his own, but almost no-one showed up. :)
The African leaders may be presiding over fairly poor nations. But they as leaders, often themselves western-educated, are very smart. As the British say, they know which side of their bread is buttered.
They understand that if they ally themselves with Russia and China (which they certainly will), they're likely to be able to form trade agreements that will be mutually beneficial. Africa has a great deal of undeveloped natural resources, the Chinese have been investing in Africa very heavily for years, and now the Russians will join in by doing their best to guarantee them supplies of food and fuel which for many of their citizens will literally be matters of life and death.
Putin is fully aware of this, and whatever some may think, he's not a cruel and barbaric man. But of course, he is also absolutely a pragmatist.
Here are two articles which are interesting to read, but which I'll not copy and paste here:
Behind closed doors with Zelensky and the African Union
https://theafricareport.com/215651/war-in-ukraine-behind-closed-doors-with-zelenskyy-and-the-african-union
How (not) to persuade Africa to support Ukraine and denounce Russia
https://theafricareport.com/197109/how-not-to-persuade-africa-to-support-ukraine-and-denounce-russia
ExomatrixTV
23rd June 2022, 14:35
How the War in Ukraine FAST-TRACKS the Great Reset:
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One of the most eye-opening explanations of the Great Reset Glenn has ever heard comes from a former MTV VJ known as “the Podfather.” Glenn sits down with Adam Curry, the man who introduced Joe Rogan to the ESG movement and its role in the Great Reset. “I take the elites at their word,” he tells Glenn, as they dive into the terrifying realities playing out around the world, including in Ukraine. They both agree that something’s off about the global response to Russia’s invasion, and Adam has a shocking theory as to why. But he’s tackling the problem in an interesting way: with his voice. From his humble beginnings on pirate radio in Holland to starting the first podcast in 2004, “The Daily Source Code” (which caught the attention of Steve Jobs), Adam tells Glenn the amazing story of his decades of experience as a tech media innovator. Now, he’s pioneering a game-changing new way of podcasting that not only puts content creators first, but, he argues, solves the censorship problem so many are now facing.
noagendashow.net (https://www.noagendashow.net)
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Breaking News: It's all over. Russia clearly has to surrender now.
Ukraine now has killer robots with machine guns (https://taskandpurpose.com/news/machine-gun-robot-ukraine-russia/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v26RmVUfpxU
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Not realizing that Russia could do the same tenfold (or worse) ... they only make it more obvious that Russia have reason to do so ... provoking the bear is stupid by default.
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
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