WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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From respect to resentment: My history with the CIA

The US Central Intelligence Agency recently turned 75. I have my reasons to wish it doesn’t see another birthday

Scott Ritter is a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer and author of 'Disarmament in the Time of Perestroika: Arms Control and the End of the Soviet Union.' He served in the Soviet Union as an inspector implementing the INF Treaty, in General Schwarzkopf’s staff during the Gulf War, and from 1991-1998 as a UN weapons inspector.
My initial introduction to the CIA was through the medium of film and literature. The spy versus spy mystique was alluringly romantic, with a definite ‘good versus evil’ vibe. I grew up, after all, during the Cold War, where the ‘red menace’ permeated every fiber of American popular culture.

I opted to serve my country in the military, and not as a spy, receiving a commission in the Marine Corps in 1984 as an intelligence officer. My specialty was combat, not espionage, and it seemed that my path and that of the premier American intelligence agency were never to cross.

In 1987, the US and the Soviet Union signed the Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty, which included as part of its compliance verification scheme on-site inspections. I was selected to serve in the On-Site Inspection Agency (OSIA), a Department of Defense activity tasked with implementing the on-site inspection provisions of the INF treaty.

The intelligence aspects of monitoring overall Soviet compliance with the INF treaty were overseen by an entity known as the Arms Control Intelligence Staff, or ACIS, which reported directly to the Director, CIA. Early on in my tenure as an inspector, I established a relationship with ACIS that was linked to the unique role I played as an inspector on the ground in the Soviet Union. Over the course of two years, I was twice recognized by the CIA in classified commendations for my work in Votkinsk. The first commendation was from the director of the CIA at the time, William Webster. The second was from the head of the Treaty Monitoring Management Office within ACIS, John Bird.

I detail my relationship with the CIA during this time in my book, ‘Disarmament in the time of Perestroika: Arms Control and the End of the Soviet Union’ (published by Clarity Press.) At the time, I viewed the CIA as a collection of professionals who effectively and diligently carried out their mission of verifying Soviet compliance with the INF treaty.

New book offers a vivid insider account of how Cold War Soviet and American efforts to ditch their nukes played out
New book offers a vivid insider account of how Cold War Soviet and American efforts to ditch their nukes played out
Near the end of my tour with OSIA, I was summoned by John Bird to his office in the agency’s Langley, Virginia, headquarters, where he offered me a job with the CIA. It was a very good offer, but one which I turned down. I was a Marine Corps officer, and it was time for me to return to the Fleet Marine Force.

Shortly after I left OSIA, Iraq invaded Kuwait, setting in motion events which culminated in Operation Desert Storm, the US-led war against Iraq. I was assigned to the headquarters of US Central Command, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, where I played a role in what became known as the ‘Great SCUD Hunt’ – the coalition effort to locate and destroy Iraqi SCUD missile launchers before they could fire on targets in Israel and the Arabian Peninsula.

During this time, I was introduced to a unit known as the Joint Intelligence Liaison Element, or JILES, a CIA team attached directly to Central Command. I had occasion to work with them on a few projects and found them to be very professional and approachable.

So far, so good.

After the war, I left the Marines, and was soon thereafter recruited by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), created after the war to oversee the elimination of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

Shortly after I arrived at the UN headquarters, I once again found myself working with the CIA. John Bird and ACIS had formed a new entity, the Iraqi Sanctions Monitoring Office, or ISMO, which had assumed responsibility for providing intelligence support to UNSCOM. Inspections are an intelligence-directed activity (i.e., the intelligence community provides information about the potential targets to be visited by inspectors) and given my task of overseeing the creation of an intelligence capability within UNSCOM (known as the Information Assessment Unit, or IAU), I found myself frequently interfacing with my old colleagues.

Only this time it was different. Not only was I no longer on the inside, so to speak, but it turned out that my marriage to Marina Khatiashvili, a Georgian national who I became acquainted with during my time as an inspector with OSIA, and who I courted and married after leaving the Marine Corps, had infuriated John Bird, who had apparently been taken to task for trying to recruit a guy (me) who then went off and married a Soviet.

It didn’t matter that I had broken no rules or laws, or that the Cold War was over. For John Bird, this was personal.

By the spring of 1992, the tension between UNSCOM and the CIA over my continued role (I had by this time taken over the ballistic missile account and was heavily involved in planning and implementing inspections in Iraq) led the CIA to confront me directly. The agency dispatched Stu Cohen, a senior officer with experience in arms control, to meet with me.

Stu indicated that the CIA believed it could no longer provide intelligence support to UNSCOM so long as I was part of the team. He stated that the CIA believed that my marriage had compromised me.

I told Stu my marriage was literally none of the CIA’s business, and that I had never done anything that violated my oath of allegiance to my country.

A compromise was reached where I gave Stu permission to conduct a thorough investigation into my work with OSIA and my marriage to Marina. If the CIA uncovered anything untoward, I would quietly resign from UNSCOM. However, if the CIA found nothing, then I would remain at UNSCOM, and the CIA would continue to provide unfettered intelligence support.


The rest of this lengthy article is here:

https://www.rt.com/news/563489-cia-75-anniversary-history/

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https://www.rt.com/business/563498-eu-citizens-russia-state-companies/

Brussels could target EU citizens at Russian state firms – media

Berlin is urging Brussels to ban EU citizens from holding senior positions at Russian state-owned companies, the Suddeutsche Zeitung newspaper reported on Sunday, citing a document where the proposal was reportedly outlined.

According to the report, the document states that EU citizens should no longer be allowed to be on the supervisory or management boards of Russian state companies.

The proposal is justified by the problem of “strategic corruption.” It states that it is a long-standing Russian strategy to offer “well-paid positions in the governing bodies” of state companies to EU residents allegedly in order to exert political influence on EU countries. The ban, however, will not apply to European subsidiaries of Russian firms.

The ban may be included in the next EU sanctions package against Russia, the report states. Apart from this, the document also reportedly calls for a ban on EU cooperation with Russian nuclear companies.

READ MORE: More EU anti-Russia sanctions on the way — FT
According to the report, EU ambassadors are to discuss further sanctions against Russia at a meeting in Brussels next Wednesday. Earlier this week, reports emerged that the eighth sanctions package may include a Russian oil price cap and target Russian information technology and cybersecurity.

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[I am B]

My significant other is Russian. Today she spoke with her family and after days of doubt, the ones likely to be conscripted moved to Azerbajan with their families, and plan to follow to Israel where they have some friends that will house them. Fortunately, they have non reserve people who can take care of their businesses in Russia.

The general feeling is preety clear. They are not mobilising 300.000. It seems to be way way more.

[Spiral]

Russophobia

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This is a prime example of why the phrase "clown world" has come into being.

Abject lies, piled on lies, based on a world of make believe.




BTW, We need a clown emoji.


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Hungary’s Orban declares plan for "national consultations" on sanctions against Russia

Viktor Orban added that he was categorically against the "continuation and deepening" of hostilities and called for "immediate peace talks and a ceasefire"

VIENNA, September 26. /TASS/. Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban told parliament on Monday he would hold "national consultations" in order to find out what the Hungarians really think about the sanctions imposed by the EU on Russia, the Magyar Nemzet newspaper reports.

"The sanctions [against Russia] were introduced in an undemocratic way. It was a decision by the bureaucrats in Brussels, for which the European peoples are now paying. We need to know the opinion of the people. For the first time in Europe, in Hungary, we will ask for the opinion of the people concerning the sanctions. <...> National consultations will be launched. The Hungarian people will be able to express their opinion whether they support them and if they are in favor of introducing new ones," Orban said.

He believes that the conflict in Ukraine would have been local, but the economic sanctions imposed by the West against Russia had lent it a global dimension. He called for getting ready to see protracted hostilities, adding that "the US and the EU are helping Ukraine with money, while Russia's resources are inexhaustible."

Orban added that he was categorically against the "continuation and deepening" of hostilities and called for "immediate peace talks and a ceasefire."

On February 24, Russian President Vladimir Putin launched a special military operation following a request from the leaders of the Donbass republics for help. He stressed that Moscow's plans did not include an occupation of Ukrainian territories, its goals being the demilitarization and denazification of the country. The West, in response to Russia's decision, began to gradually introduce numerous large-scale sanctions. Along with this, the Western states started supplying weapons and military equipment to Kiev. The value of the hardware already provided is estimated at tens of billions of dollars.

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https://tass.com/world/1513795
US’ position on Snowden unchanged: he must stand trial in US — Department of State


Mr. Snowden should return to the United States where he should face justice as any other American citizen would, Ned Price said
WASHINGTON, September 26. /TASS/. The United States thinks that despite his Russian citizenship, former CIA employee Edward Snowden is a US national and must return to the country to face justice, US Department of State Spokesperson Ned Price said on Monday.

"Our position hasn't changed. Mr. Snowden should return to the United States where he should face justice as any other American citizen would," he said. "Perhaps the only thing that has changed is that as a result of his Russian citizenship, apparently now he may well be conscripted (to the Russian army)."

Snowden’s US passport was annulled in 2013, but the White House explained back then that it was a routine legal procedure following the issuance of an arrest warrant and his status of citizenship was unchanged.

It was reported earlier on Monday that Snowden has been granted Russian citizenship by a presidential decree.

In 2013, Snowden leaked information on the methods of electronic surveillance by US intelligence services, including illegally wiretapping foreign leaders. Fleeing from prosecution, Snowden sent requests for asylum to some countries, including Russia. On August 1, 2014, he received a Russian residence permit.

In the United States, Snowden is charged with two counts of violating the Espionage Act. He may face up to ten years in prison on each of the counts. The US authorities have repeatedly stated that they consider Snowden a traitor who caused grave damage to national security.

Snowden’s attorney, Anatoly Kucherena, said on Monday that his client, as a Russian citizen, cannot be called up within the ongoing partial mobilization. "He cannot be called up because, under Russian laws, he has never served in the Russian army and is not a reservist," he explained.

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https://tass.com/politics/1513585

Former Ukrainian soldiers called up in Crimea and Sevastopol take oath

Mikhail Razvozhayev said earlier that nearly 3-4% of Sevastopol residents will fall under partial mobilization declared by Russian President Vladimir Putin
SEVASTOPOL, September 26. /TASS/. Called up servicemen, who served in the Ukrainian army before Crimea’s reunification with Russia, have taken allegiance to Russia on Monday, Vyacheslav Rodionov, deputy commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet said.

"More than 2,000 people are present here. Specialists: riflemen, grenade launcher operators, ATGM operators, artillerists, combat vehicle drivers. They took the oath today and now will begin training. Time will show which tasks will be posed to them," Rodionov said.

According to Sevastopol governor Mikhail Razvozhayev, the military oath ceremony was held for those draftees who "were in reserve, served in the Ukrainian army and did not serve in the Russian armed forces." There are 60 such draftees. These people will be sent to the place of deployment on Tuesday.

Razvozhayev said earlier that nearly 3-4% of Sevastopol residents will fall under partial mobilization declared by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Those called up will be paid a lump sum of 200,000 rubles (3,439 US dollars) as financial assistance.

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Military operation can become counter-terrorist after referendums — head of Crimea

SIMFEROPOL, September 26. /TASS/. The special military operation will effectively become a counter-terrorist one in case of accession of Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions to Russia, head of Crimea Sergey Aksyonov believes.

"A certain point of no return will be passed soon. Acquisition of a new status for the liberated territories will put an end to uncertainty. They will become fully-fledged regions of the Russian Federation. And we will effectively carry out not a special military operation, but a counter-terrorist operation on our own territories," Aksyonov said on his Telegram channel Monday.

Speaking about the referendums in Donbass and the liberated territories, he expressed his opinion that the "people of [these] regions have long decided on their legitimate choice."

Referendums on accession to Russia currently take place in Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, as well as in Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions. Russian President Vladimir Putin underscored that Moscow will support a decision made during these referendums.

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[rgray222]

I would like to take a second and rant, my apologies if it ruffles a few feathers but mine fell back in place when I finished writing this.

One of the major consequences of war is the impact on the mental health of civilians and soldiers, it is tremendously significant. Not one person in the war zone escapes, not men, women, children, the elderly, the disabled or even our pets. There is a definite increase in the incidence and prevalence of severe mental disorders in all people but especially women. The long-term effects of war are simple, it destroys countries, communities, families and individuals. The suicide rate of those participating and those that are impacted by war catapults to obscene levels, these souls are lost forever.

Wars do not make men or countries great, but they do bring out the greatness in good men. War is romantic only to those who are far away from the horrific sounds, turmoil, destruction, blood and death on the battlefield. Romanticizing war is an idiots game played by politicians, mainstream media moguls and only those that have something to gain.

To make war work it needs a villain, the bigger the better, this justifies the chaotic death and destruction on a grand scale and makes the hero (usually a false champion) shine a bit brighter. It forces people to choose sides even those that have no material interest in the war. Once you choose sides you are participating and condoning in the murder and destruction of war. Once you have chosen sides you have become a willing pawn in the system, you might as well be on the battlefield with a weapon. The game cannot be played without a villain, the game cannot be play without participants.

A sea change needs to take place regarding how we think about our political leadership. Politicians that discuss or suggest war as a real option to solve problems need to be removed from leadership roles. If one country or village has a grievance with another there should be a mechanism to hash it out with words and diplomacy, not hate and guns.

We need to flip our priorities, memorializing science, invention, creative thinking and altruistic behaviour not war and death.

I realize that as a people we are far away from what I describe above but if we don't start putting our thoughts about war out in the universe nothing will ever change.

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[JackMcThorn]

I realize that as a people we are far away from what I describe above but if we don't start putting our thoughts about war out in the universe nothing will ever change.


It is not just war that is as old as man, but conflict as well. Nature in all forms is quite violent; over a meal; humans are not exempt.

33% of women are subjected to physical abuse in the united states and that is barely what is reported. The land of the free and it makes you wonder what goes on in some people's homes. Why couldn't the land of the free get this one figured out?

War is the highest escalated conflict on the planet. I've said before if we can't get things right with basic psychology in the home and the school yard, we'll never get it right beyond diplomacy. And there is so much that can be done in the average home and school yard.

The lessor of two evils applies here and in every other conflict; violent or otherwise. People can choose to ignore it and not pick sides and that is fine. But I contend that the very nature of humanity is to pick sides or we would not have so much sport, so much competition in many other areas besides sport that to not pick a side is sort of impartial and dare I say it: careless.

Calculated and decisive selection is an intelligent manner to address these out of reach or impersonal conflicts. To have an opinion of the impersonal conflict isn't exactly wrong behaviour; however disagreeable.

[ExomatrixTV]

Republicans WON’T Fund Ukraine War! Dem Senator Threatens:

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Democratic Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut is worried that if the GOP takes over either house of Congress in the midterm elections, that will spell the end for funding the war in Ukraine. Journalistic servants of empire Paul Waldman and Greg Sargent dutifully repeat Murphy’s words in the pages of the Washington Post, raising the alarm and fearmongering about the calamitous lack of war that might ensue if Republicans win an electoral victory. Jimmy and America’s comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the surprising turnabout in today’s political landscape where Democrats support war that Republicans oppose.

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Large Rallies In Support of Putin's Referendums And Mobilization 50x Larger Than Protests Against:

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Jordan Peterson STUNS Lex Fridman on Vladimir Putin!:

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"WE ARE RULED BY TRAITORS" Rand Paul EXPOSES Nancy Pelosi's Dark Secrets:

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[Chester]

I realize that as a people we are far away from what I describe above but if we don't start putting our thoughts about war out in the universe nothing will ever change.


It is not just war that is as old as man, but conflict as well. Nature in all forms is quite violent; over a meal; humans are not exempt.

33% of women are subjected to physical abuse in the united states and that is barely what is reported. The land of the free and it makes you wonder what goes on in some people's homes. Why couldn't the land of the free get this one figured out?

War is the highest escalated conflict on the planet. I've said before if we can't get things right with basic psychology in the home and the school yard, we'll never get it right beyond diplomacy. And there is so much that can be done in the average home and school yard.

The lessor of two evils applies here and in every other conflict; violent or otherwise. People can choose to ignore it and not pick sides and that is fine. But I contend that the very nature of humanity is to pick sides or we would not have so much sport, so much competition in many other areas besides sport that to not pick a side is sort of impartial and dare I say it: careless.

Calculated and decisive selection is an intelligent manner to address these out of reach or impersonal conflicts. To have an opinion of the impersonal conflict isn't exactly wrong behaviour; however disagreeable.

Brilliant post and correct.

[Chester]

JUST IN - Following the pressure drop in Nord Stream 2, a pressure drop has now also been recorded in both lines of Nord Stream 1, the operator says.

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[Tintin]

Sergey Lavrov press conference, September 24th, following the UNGA meeting now dubbed in English (Warning: might contain some truth, and a little humour :p ):

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Also downloadable in the Avalon library, along with the full transcript with both English and Russian versions (20 page pdf)

https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/2022_Russian_invasion_%28Operation-Z%29/Sergey_Lavrov/UN_General_Assembly_meeting_September_22_2022/UNGA_press_conference_NYC_2022.mp4

Transcripts:


English version (https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/2022_Russian_invasion_%28Operation-Z%29/Sergey_Lavrov/UN_General_Assembly_meeting_September_22_2022/UNGA_press_conference_transcript_%28English_version%29.pdf)


Russian (original (https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/2022_Russian_invasion_%28Operation-Z%29/Sergey_Lavrov/UN_General_Assembly_meeting_September_22_2022/UNGA_press_conference_transcript_%28Russian_version%29.pdf))

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[Bill Ryan]

JUST IN - Following the pressure drop in Nord Stream 2, a pressure drop has now also been recorded in both lines of Nord Stream 1, the operator says.

https://t.me/disclosetv/9351

disclosetv/9351Gonzalo Lira argues (fairly convincingly!) that this is US sabotage, principally aimed at sinking the EU economy.

The Americans Declared War on Europe


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IIwltTM4Q

[Bill Ryan]

My significant other is Russian. Today she spoke with her family and after days of doubt, the ones likely to be conscripted moved to Azerbajan with their families, and plan to follow to Israel where they have some friends that will house them. Fortunately, they have non reserve people who can take care of their businesses in Russia.

The general feeling is pretty clear. They are not mobilising 300.000. It seems to be way way more.Can you possibly say more about this? You used the word 'conscripted', but as best I understand it's a call-up of a limited number of reservists who have all been in the military before, most of whom have no problem with serving their country again.

Also, as best I understand, the reservists' call-up papers have already been issued, so it's not a matter of people 'likely' to be called up... they've either been called up, or they've not. (Unless the people you know are concerned about possible future expansion of the call-up in ways that have not been announced.)

It's also hard to believe the number of reservists currently being called up is more than officially stated. There'd be a huge social media outcry if that ever became known, and I'm not aware of any dispute about the numbers.

The Russian MoD is usually very carefully accurate and truthful about what it states, though sometimes it omits information. But over the last 6 months, they've not been lying about any numbers of anything or anyone. Too many people are watching, all over the world, and there's too much at stake for their official information to be incorrect.

If there's any way you can expand on what you've heard and what you believe you know, that might be very interesting and helpful.

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[Bill Ryan]

JUST IN - Following the pressure drop in Nord Stream 2, a pressure drop has now also been recorded in both lines of Nord Stream 1, the operator says.

https://t.me/disclosetv/9351

disclosetv/9351More on this story (and probably much more to come today), at the following links, plus many more mainstream news articles:


Kremlin: sa (https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/kremlin-sabotage-cannot-be-ruled-out-reason-nord-stream-damage-2022-09-27/)botage cannot be ruled out as reason for Nord Stream damage (https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/kremlin-sabotage-cannot-be-ruled-out-reason-nord-stream-damage-2022-09-27/) (Reuters)
Nord Stream Says Gas Pipeline Damage Is Unprecedented (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-27/nord-stream-probing-pressure-drop-at-second-russian-gas-link) (Bloomberg)
Huge pressure leaks hit undersea Nord Stream pipelines (https://www.politico.eu/article/gas-leak-detected-near-nord-stream-2/) (Politico)
Nord Stream Pipelines Sabotaged? (https://energynews.pro/en/nord-stream-pipelines-sabotaged/) (Energy News)

[norman]

What Is the US Hiding about Biolabs in Ukraine?

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The Russian Ministry of Defense just released a video about the US/Deep State biological network in Ukraine and @Clandestine on TRUTHSocial has kindly translated the slides for us on his Substack:

Slide 1: What is the US hiding about biolabs in Ukraine?

Slide 2: Russia presented proof of US military biological activities in Ukraine.

Slide 3: Americans have spent over $250 million since 2005, according to the Defense Department.

Slide 4: Including for the construction and modernization of biological laboratories.

Slide 5: They are coordinated by the US Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA).

Slide 6: The Americans do not deny the fact of cooperation with Kyiv.

Slide 7: Although they say their goal was to improve the epidemiological situation in Ukraine,

Slide 8: But they don’t explain how it fits in with the research of potential biological operations,

Slide 9: As well as economically significant infections.

Slide 10: Another priority for biolabs was the collection and export to the United States.

Slide 11: Strains of pathogens of dangerous infectious diseases – anthrax, cholera, tularemia.

Slide 12: Biological material was also exported to other countries.

Slide 13: The samples, themselves with hazardous bioagents were often improperly stored.

Slide 14: The Ministry of Defense also drew attention to the fact that various studies were often carried out

Slide 15: On socially-unprotected categories of Ukrainian citizens.

Slide 16: At the same, back in 2013, Ukraine tried to curtail the biological projects of the Pentagon.

Slide 17: But had to give in under pressure from Washington.

Slide 18: Neither the United States nor Ukraine have been able to provide conclusive evidence.

Slide 19: That their cooperation is beneficial.

Slide 20: Just as Kyiv could not explain why it began to destroy documents,

Slide 21: About joint military biological activities with the Americans.

This is an information operation by the Russian military that is simplifying the discoveries from their mission in Ukraine for a broad audience with small, digestible, visual aides.


Clandestine writes:

Regardless of if these allegations are true or not (all the evidence suggests that they are), the reality is, that the People of the Eastern world are being normalized to believe that Biden and the US were creating bioweapons in Ukraine, and the Western People are largely oblivious to the allegations as a whole.

Also, keep in mind that the Russian Foreign Ministry and Russian Legislators expect a conclusion to their final report to the UN in the “fall”. It’s fall. The timing of this video suggests that things may be coming that the broader public need to be introduced to.

Also, be sure to recognize that Trump has not appeared anywhere near any of the allegations or reports. Russia continue to direct the activity at Biden and the DNC specifically. Russia went out of their way to make sure the word knows Trump is excluded from these allegations. Which, whether these allegations are true or not, proves there is some level of alliance, truce, or agreement of some kind, between Trump and Putin.

This video also proves that the allegations are not going away. Russian MIL have been pushing this heavily for approximately 7 months now. Providing consistent evidence to the UN. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. This isn’t a baseless disinformation campaign. Putin and Russia are serious about this, they were willing to go to war over it, and now Putin claims they are willing to use his entire arsenal to neutralize this global threat.

This problem isn’t going away. If Russia continue to be ignored, they will resort to alternative solutions if diplomacy fails. The world teeters on the brink of nuclear destruction.

Alexandra Bruce (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/what-is-the-us-hiding-about-biolabs-in-ukraine/)

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[Bill Ryan]

An excellent, detailed article by James Tweedie on The Saker's blog.


http://thesaker.is/will-the-ukraine-de-militarise-itself

Will The Ukraine De-Militarise Itself?

Back in August 2022 I wrote (https://thesaker.is/only-nato-could-de-militarise-itself/) that NATO was ‘demilitarising’ itself, sending such huge amounts of arms to the Ukraine before and during the Russian special military operation (SMO) that its armies had nothing left to fight with.

That process has continued, with Slovenia, the northernmost of the former federal republics of Yugoslavia, sending its entire armoured vehicle fleet to Kiev. The last scrapings of the barrel, just announced, are 28 M-55S tanks. These are modernised Soviet-designed T-55s with some Israeli explosive-reactive armour (ERA) blocks added. But underneath that they’re still a 1950s design, four generations behind the latest Russian tanks.

The question now is: can those arms sustain the Ukrainian military effort? And if the Ukraine, the buffed-up proxy for all NATO and the Five Eyes countries too, is losing the war, when will Russia and its Donbass republican allies achieve victory?

I was born in the mid-1970s, during the Cold War, and I grew up under he shadow of the mushroom cloud. So I must confess to being one of those who were anxious for this conflict to be over quickly, before the nuclear powers came to blows. But one can’t hurry history.

War of Attrition

In his bombshell speech on the morning of 21st September 2022, Russian President Vladimir Putin explained that the apparent slow progress of the SMO by the need to unpick the Gordian Knot of hardened defences the Ukrainian Nazi battalions built up on the front line over eight years.

“A head-on attack against them would have led to heavy losses,” Putin said, “which is why our units, as well as the forces of the Donbass republics, are acting competently and systematically, using military equipment and saving lives, moving step by step to liberate Donbass.”

Russian Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu gave a televised interview (https://tass.com/politics/1511143)the same morning. He gave extremely specific figures for both Russian and Ukrainian military casualties. “Our losses to date are 5,937 dead,” he said, but added that 90 per cent of the wounded had recovered and returned to duty.

According to Shoigu, Ukraine has lost 61,207 killed and 49,368 wounded (a total of 110,575 casualties) from an initial military strength of 201-202 thousand. The caveat to that that the Ukraine has conscripted hundreds of thousands of men into territorial defence units since the start of the conflict. That’s greater than a ten-to-one ratio of Ukrainian to Russian casualties

Shoigu also said that over the previous three weeks — since the launch of Kiev’s counter-offensives in Kherson and Kharkov — the Ukrainians had lost more than 7,000 men and 970 pieces of heavy equipment, including 208 tanks (https://tass.com/politics/1511143), 245 infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs), 186 other armoured vehicles, 15 aircraft and four helicopters.

That amounts to about 60 per cent of the roughly 350 tanks, and three-quarters of the 328 IFVs, supplied by Western countries since February 24. If one lumps armoured personnel carriers (APCs) in with IFVs, Shoigu is still talking about 30 per cent losses of NATO-supplied heavy armour.

Kiev is preparing for or has already begun more counter-offensives towards Lisichansk in the LPR, Donetsk city, from Ugledar to the south to Mariupol and towards Berdyansk or Melitopol in Zaporozhye oblast. Russian aircraft, missiles and artillery are already hitting the groups of forces concentrated for that. If those offensives go the same way as the others, surely the Ukrainians will soon run out of both men and machines, right?

Blogger and YouTuber Andrei Martyanov, a Russian who served in the Soviet armed forces, is not worried about about how long it takes to get the SMO over and done with. He has argued (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLBQQ4ZUvAk&t=1s) that his countrymen can win simply by waiting for the Ukrainians to throw themselves onto their bayonets, until they run out of bodies (http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/09/pentagons-operational-planning.html).

With all due respect, allow me to sound a note of scepticism: that assumes that Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and his Western backers care how many die, or that the Ukrainian people (more than 8 million of whom are now scattered across Europe and even further afield) have the inclination and the opportunity to rise up against the fascist death-squad state.

The daily Russian Ministry of Defence body-count of hundreds of the miserable ‘territorial defence’ conscripts along the Donbass line — untrained and barely-armed middle-aged men press-ganged in the street — is not much of an indicator of progress.

It’s the territorial gains, no matter how slow, that matter. Russia cannot just count on the Ukrainians to suicidally ‘demilitarise’ themselves.

Putin’s announcement of a “partial mobilisation” of 300,000 army reservists was warmly welcomed by pro-Russian social media commentators. It is hard to exaggerate the importance of this, coupled with the referenda in Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson on reunification with Russia.

But there are caveats. State Duma Defence Committee chairman Andrey Kartapolov clarified that those troops would be deployed to defend the country’s borders and to create “operational depth” — in other words as a second defensive echelon. Martyanov argues that will free up regular front-line troops to conquer more territory. But it remains unclear how many of them were deployed to begin with.

Eyes on the Prize

So what is Russia trying to achieve in the Ukraine? Putin said in his Wednesday morning speech that the main task was to defend the Russian-speaking people of the Donbass. That implies capturing the whole of the oblasts of Donetsk and Lugansk.

But some ‘stretch goals’ may be added, including forging a land corridor to the Crimea and maybe even Transnistria, the Russian protectorate in Moldova.

Russia’s other main aim was to stop the Ukraine from joining NATO. That would allow the US to base nuclear weapons just 300 miles from Moscow in a position to launch a first strike attack.

US President Joe Biden’s response to Putin at the UN General Assembly later that day included the comment that “a nuclear war cannot be won — and must never be fought.” While true, that observation was shamelessly hypocritical. It was likely only made out of fear after Putin’s warning that Russia takes national defence and nuclear deterrence seriously.

Securing the Ukraine’s neutrality is not just part of “demilitarisation”: it could also be called “de-Nazification”, since NATO and its shadow the European Union (EU) were behind the 2014 coup by the Azov battalion and their ilk.

But Russia needs a legitimately-elected head of state to sign up to that, and right now that man is Zelensky. A peace deal struck with any military junta which might depose the comedian-turned-president would only be denounced by the next elected leader.

Even if a new civilian government was elected on a pro-peace, non-alignment platform (as Zelensky was), it would only last as long as it took the US, UK and EU to organise a repeat of the 2004-05 ‘Orange Revolution’ and the 2014 ‘Euromaidan’ coups d’etat.

The crazy Ukro-Nazis and their enablers have to ‘own’ the peace and the agreement to cede the Donbass and Crimea — and thereby lose all credibility.

But the Ukraine had already lost the Crimea and effective control over the Donbass before the SMO even kicked off. Kiev won’t sign any peace deal unless it has something else to lose. If Moscow is also serious about readmitting Zaporozhye and Kherson to the Russian motherland following a ‘Yes’ vote in the coming referenda, then there’s nothing to bargain with there either. Russia may need to capture other territories to use as bargaining chips.

To do so, it would have to inflict a defeat on the Ukrainian armed forces that would force them to retreat — not only from Donetsk and Lugansk but from other areas, maybe all the way back to the Dnieper river that divides the country in two.

Such a victory can’t be won unless Russia regains the initiative and actively starts pushing the Ukrainian armed forces back.

The Great M.I.C. Cash-In

The Kiev regime’s aims are clearly to keep grifting off its Western sponsors as long as possible, before fleeing to the sunny tax havens where they have billions stashed. But what does the West really want out of this war?

The stated aims of Washington and friends are to defend Ukraine’s territory and sovereignty (code for invading the Donbass and Crimea and ethnically cleansing them), along with its non-existent “right” to become a NATO launchpad, to “weaken” Russia militarily (by causing as many casualties as possible) and to put “international pressure” on Putin (economic warfare with the goal of regime change).

One should avoid making predictions, but let’s say the US and its satellites fail in all of that (since they have done so far). What will they try to win as a consolation prize?

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, an unelected bureaucrat who made a huge mess of her previous job as German defence minister, has vowed that sanctions on Russia will continue for years to come. That the sanctions are crippling the economies of EU member states, especially her home country, doesn’t seem to bother UVDL. And seeing the EU and its appointed commissioners are increasingly imposing their foreign policy diktats on the 27 governments, she might get her way.

More importantly, NATO desperately needs to save face — now that it has exposed by Russia as a paper tiger. Hence the triumphant crowing over moves, far from complete, to grant existing de-facto allies Sweden and Finland formal membership.

The West may try to claim a kind of moral victory on the basis that it may take Russia more than a year to defeat ‘brave little Ukraine’, or be forced to wipe out most of its military-age male population to win. But whose idea was that? Zelensky, Biden and all other Western leaders have made that bed.

But NATO is really just a pyramid scheme to sell overpriced Western, especially US, arms to its vassals. And therein lies a contradiction, because the US military-industrial complex (MIC) has competition from those of the UK, Germany, France and even Sweden — a country with a smaller population than the city of Moscow.

The Ukraine has used the referenda on unification with Russia as the latest pretext to demand Germany donate its newest models of Leopard 2 tanks and Marder infantry fighting vehicles. But why doesn’t Kiev ask the US for some of its M1 Abrams and M2 Bradleys instead? The Pentagon has many more to spare.

The truth is that neither Germany nor the US can afford to have its supposedly-invincible wunderwaffen shown up, and blown up, in battle with Russian forces. Despite weighing only two-thirds as much as the US and German behemoths, the Russian tanks have about the same effective armour protection — thanks to state-of-the-art ERA technology — and guns of equal destructive power. And there are a lot more Russian tanks, anti-tank missiles, attack jets and helicopters on the battlefield in the Ukraine.

The US has only managed to sell the M1 to eight other countries, compared to 18 for the Leopard 2. The export model of the Abrams is ‘Nerfed’ by removing the depleted uranium rods from its composite armour, so countries like Australia and Saudi Arabia get sub-par tanks. The only overseas customer for the British Challenger 2 is Oman, while the French Leclerc tank has been exported to the United Arab Emirates and Jordan.

By contrast, the Russian T-72 is currently in service in 40 countries, including both Russia and the Ukraine. Like the Russian intervention in Syria, the war in the Ukraine could prove to be a serious marketing tool for the Russian arms industry — eating the US MIC’s lunch.

[Tintin]

Once you choose sides you are participating and condoning in the murder and destruction of war. Once you have chosen sides you have become a willing pawn in the system, you might as well be on the battlefield with a weapon.


:flower:

Very hard to repudiate that statement but I'd admit to finding neutrality very hard with this situation.

However, I would say this, and have said this to folks when it's come up in conversation and in particular directed at those who have swallowed the pernicious and hypocritical flim flam promulgated via the legacy media over here:

(Quote): "This isn't a football (soccer) game; you don't get to pick sides. You get to find out the reasons why this is all happening. Period." (Endquote)

The inference there should be don't dare talk to me about this until you've done some homework and you may well feel differently when you have, made that effort. (The 'you' is most certainly not aimed at you, it's a general use of the word.)

That's aimed at anyone who comes within my orbit who activates my irritation button and may present as a Nazi-sympathiser, or blue and yellow flag waving jerk who hasn't invested any time at all in trying to learn and understand.

I appreciate what you have written here in the whole post. I do understand truly where you're at here.

:flower:

[Bill Ryan]

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1574702376262701056

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[Bill Ryan]

The Nord Stream [probable] sabotage may need its own thread. (I'll move posts from here if need be. :thumbsup: )

Meanwhile, here's an excellent summary from The Moon of Alabama, suggesting this is Poland's action, supported (of course) by the US.


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/the-war-on-germany-just-entered-its-hot-phase.html#more

The War On Germany Just Entered Its Hot Phase

Just yesterday I laid out how the U.S. is winning its war on Europe's industries and people (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/the-us-is-winning-its-war-on-europes-industries-and-people.html).

That war, hidden behind the U.S. created Ukraine crisis, is designed to destroy Europe's manufacturing advantage compared to the U.S. It is more likely though to strengthen the economic position of China and other Asian economies.

I have argued that Germany must open the Nord Stream II pipeline which can bring Russian natural gas to Germany without crossing other countries' territory. It must also allow Siemens to repair the defect Nord Stream I compressors. It is in fact inevitable if German's industry is to survive.

Others have come to similar conclusion and decided to sabotage the pipelines (https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1674685/nord-stream-russia-ukraine-germany-targeted-attack-latest-news-ont) to make their re-opening impossible:
Three offshore lines of the Nord Stream gas pipeline system have sustained "unprecedented" damage in one day, Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, said on Tuesday in what one German official has suggested is a "targeted attack”. Nord Stream 2 suffered a gas leak which was then followed by a drop of pressure on Nord Stream 1. The company also said that it was impossible to estimate when the gas network system's working capability would be restored.
The simultaneous sub sea damage to three pipelines is obviously not an accident.
A German economy official told Tagesspiegel: "We can't imagine a scenario that isn't a targeted attack." They added: "Everything speaks against a coincidence."
https://www.moonofalabama.org/14i/nsdamage-s.jpg
bigger (https://www.moonofalabama.org/14i/nsdamage.jpg)

The war mongers at the British Telegraph claim without any evidence or logic (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/27/russian-sabotage-feared-unprecedented-damage-nord-stream-gas/) that Russia is the culprit:
Russian sabotage to gas supplies to Europe is feared after three offshore lines of the Nord Stream pipeline system suffered “unprecedented” damage in a single day.
...
Russia has withheld gas supplies to Europe as it seeks to hit back for Western sanctions imposed for the illegal invasion of Ukraine. German newspapers reported sources saying the leaks were as a result of a "targeted attack".As stated in yesterday's piece the claim that Russia is withholding gas from Europe is outright false (https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/the-us-is-winning-its-war-on-europes-industries-and-people.html):
Nord Stream II was created to make Germany independent from pipelines running through Poland and the Ukraine. Blocking it was the most stupid thing for Germany to do and thus chancellor Scholz did it. In the following months Poland blocked the Yamal pipeline which also brought Russian gas to Germany. Ukraine followed up with cutting off two Russian pipelines. The main compressor stations of the Nord Stream I pipeline, which the German company Siemens had build and has the maintenance contract, failed one after the other. Sanction are prohibiting Siemens from repairing them.
It is not Russia that has blocked its gas and oil from European markets. It were the German, Polish and Ukrainian governments that did it.
Russia would in fact be happy to sell more. Putin has recently again offered (http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/69366) to push as much Russian gas as possible through Nord Stream II to Germany: ...
If Russia were to cut pipelines in the Baltic Sea it would damage those that bring Norwegian gas to Europe, not the pipelines it owns and which give it some leverage.

Russia thus surely has no plausible interest in sabotaging the Nord Stream system. Others though do have such interests. They likely want Germany to 'stay in line' with their war to Decolonize Russia (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/russia-putin-colonization-ukraine-chechnya/639428/). The major potential actors behind this are the U.S., the British, the Ukrainian and the Polish government or a mixture of those.

Geography, and the shallow depth of the Baltic Sea, seem to exclude that a U.S. or British submarines did the damage. Ukraine does not have access to the Baltic Sea. Poland, which had already tried to prevent or hinder the Nord Stream II construction, is the most likely actor behind this though I doubt that it would dare to act alone.

Consider this (https://maritime-executive.com/article/poland-denies-provocative-naval-maneuvers-near-nord-stream-2) from April 2021:
The developers of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline have accused foreign naval forces of "provocative" activity in the vicinity of construction work. The controversial pipeline is about 93 percent complete, and two Russian pipelay vessels are on station and working on the project in Danish waters. Andrei Minin, the branch director of Gazprom-run Nord Stream 2 AG, told TASS that "foreign warships and vessels were demonstrating higher activity" near the operation, and that "such actions are provocative and can lead to gas pipeline damage." He also accused Poland of deploying a military M-28 patrol aircraft to survey the site.
"The Polish Navy is not conducting provocative operations and has been carrying out its statutory tasks in agreement with international laws," responded the Polish Army's central command in a social media post. "M-28B Bryza planes regularly conduct patrol flights in the Baltic Sea region."
Poland strongly opposes the development of Nord Stream 2, which will give Gazprom a subsea alternative route for supplying natural gas to Western European customers. At present, that gas has to pass through overland pipeline networks in Poland and Ukraine, bringing in valuable transit fees and providing both nations - which do not always have cordial relations with Russia - a measure of energy security.
Followed by this (https://kafkadesk.org/2021/05/21/poland-angered-by-us-president-bidens-nord-stream-ii-decision/) from May 2021:
Poland has reacted angrily to President Joe Biden’s decision to waive US sanctions on Nord Stream II, warning the move could threaten energy security across Central and Eastern Europe. “The information is definitely not positive from the security point of view, as we know perfectly that Nord Stream II is not only a business project – it is mostly a geopolitical project,” said Piotr Muller, a spokesman for the Polish government.
On February 7 Biden stated (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbEoZXhCrM) (vid) that he would decided if Nord Stream II opens and on February 27 he sanctioned (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/23/statement-by-president-biden-on-nord-stream-2/) the company owning it.

Under its current rightwing leadership Poland has been extremely hostile to Germany. This month it even renewed is demand for war reparations (https://apnews.com/article/poland-germany-world-war-ii-warsaw-49b0cf77745a7b1cabfaa884c3bf0035) from Germany, an issue that had been settle decades ago:
Poland’s top politician said Thursday that the government will seek equivalent of some $1.3 trillion in reparations from Germany for the Nazis’ World War II invasion and occupation of his country. Jaroslaw Kaczynski, leader of the Law and Justice party, announced the huge claim at the release of a long-awaited report on the cost to the country of years of Nazi German occupation as it marks 83 years since the start of World War II.
...
Germany’s Foreign Ministry said Thursday the government’s position remains “unchanged” in that “the question of reparations is concluded.”
“Poland long ago, in 1953, waived further reparations and has repeatedly confirmed this waiver,” the ministry said in an emailed response to a Associated Press query about the new Polish report.
It is high time for the German government to wake up and to recognize that a war has been launched against its country.

And no. It is not Russia that is waging it.

[avid]

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1574702376262701056

1574702376262701056

Pure unadulterated evil.

[Gwin Ru]

...

... the war on the people:
From Jim Stone (http://www.jimstone.is/1/.tl1.html):
A brit lays it all out: We are getting scammed.

Britain is energy independent, Britain does not get any gas from Russia or America, Britain gets it from the North Sea, and gas is not even the big contributor to British energy, over 50 percent of Britsh energy comes from wind and nuclear, and then there's hydroeletric also. The war in Ukraine did not affect Britain in any way. Absolutely nothing changed on the British energy scene other than high level scammers arbitrarily jacking up prices in a great big "blame Russia" con job.

[...]

That said, Nord Stream 2 dropped from 105 bar to 7 bar overnight . . . . .

so something is going on there . . . . . rumor has it that it is leaking into the water off the Danish coast, HMM, would that be the work of an American submarine??? All the MSM outlets are now calling the pipeline "defunct". So it is probably under attack and they are going to blame all the damage on Russia not maintaining it. Some outlets are still reporting that it dropped from 300 bar to 7 bar but corrections are being made, 300 bar is a nearly unachievable pressure. High pressure long range gas pipelines typically operate between 70 and 100 bar, I'd attribute operating at even 105 bar to the typical Russian tendencies towards lower safety margins.

[Bill Ryan]

Published a few minutes ago:


https://news.sky.com/story/kremlin-says-it-cant-rule-out-sabotage-after-mysterious-damage-to-russia-germany-gas-pipelines-prompts-warnings-12706208

Undersea 'blasts' recorded at same time Russia-Germany gas pipelines damaged

The Kremlin and others say they can't rule out sabotage after "unprecedented" damage was caused to both Nord Streams 1 and 2 - a day before a new pipeline from Norwegian gas fields carrying gas to Europe is due to open.

https://e3.365dm.com/22/09/768x432/skynews-gas-leak-nord-stream-2_5912446.jpg?20220927142712

The Nord Stream pipeline network, part of which supplies Germany with gas from Russia, has been damaged in three places, its operator has said.

The damage to the system on the bed of the Baltic Sea - all caused in one day - was "unprecedented", Nord Stream AG added.

The Kremlin said it could not rule out sabotage as a cause of the damage, while other authorities are investigating.

The Danish energy authority also said it could be a deliberate act, as any event like this was "extremely rare".

And a European security source told Reuters: "There are some indications that it is deliberate damage. You have to ask: Who would profit?"

Meanwhile, a reading from a nearby seismograph, which records vibrations on the planet's surface, was later found to show spikes at similar times to when the losses in pressure in the pipes were first recorded, according to a German geology research centre.

[Gwin Ru]

...

... First Images Of 'Gas Bubbles' From Nord Stream Leak In Baltic Sea (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/damage-nord-stream-pipelines-unprecedented-may-have-been-sabotaged)

by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, Sep 27, 2022 - 03:10 PM

Update (0932ET):
Swedish broadcaster SVT (https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/svt-avslojar-tva-explosioner-intill-nord-stream) reported that the Swedish National Seismic Network detected two underwater explosions near the Nord Stream pipeline system on Monday.
"One of the explosions had a magnitude of 2.3, and was registered at as many as 30 measuring stations in southern Sweden," SVT said.
Bjorn Lund, a professor in seismology and director of the Swedish National Seismic Network, said these two seismic events were explosions.

Here's a map of the three leaks on the Nord Stream pipeline system.


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Bloomberg's Javier Blas said the size of the "gas leak is huge."

* * *
Update (0920ET):
Swedish daily newspaper Aftonbaldet (https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/O834dk/forsvarsmakten-bevakar-ryska-gaslackor-militar-angelagenhet) quoted the Swedish Defense Force's chief of operations, Michael Claesson, who said it's not ruled out that there's a connection to the gas leaks and Russia's mobilization last week.

Claesson then told the paper that the incident was a "military matter."

* * *
Update (0910ET):
Danish Defense Forces published the first images of the gas leaks from the Nord Stream pipeline system near the exclusive economic zone southeast of Bornholm island, according to the Swedish daily newspaper Aftonbaldet (https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/Rr77qd/aftonbladet-direkt?pinnedEntry=960502).

The first images show a large surface area of gas bubbles in the Baltic Sea.


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Here are more images of one of the leaks.


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Another leak was reported by the Danish Defense Forces to be 1 kilometer in diameter on the surface water.

This is an absolutely massive leak.


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A handful of EU officials suspect the pipelines were sabotaged.

* * *
Update (0842ET):
Sweden’s government held a crisis management meeting with other public authorities over the damage to the Nord Stream pipeline system, Swedish daily newspaper Aftonbaldet said, citing comments from Foreign Minister Ann Linde.

Linde said Sweden may discuss the pipeline damage with Denmark later today.
Denmark is tightening security around all energy assets as some European officials speculate the NS pipeline system was sabotaged.

* * *
The plot thickens about what caused damage to three lines of the Nord Stream gas-pipeline system under the Baltic Sea to Europe as some European officials now suspect sabotage.

Nord Stream AG, the operator of the NS pipeline system, published a statement Tuesday that read, "the destruction that happened within one day at three lines of the Nord Stream pipeline system is unprecedented ... and impossible now to estimate the timeframe for restoring operations of the gas shipment infrastructure."

On Monday, NS2 gas pipeline and two NS1 lines reported rapid pressure drops (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/defunct-nord-stream-2-pressure-mysteriously-plunges), with gas leaks reported by Swedish and Danish authorities in the Baltic Sea near the exclusive economic zone southeast of Bornholm island.


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A more in-depth view of the incident area.


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Pressure drops in the NS gas-pipeline system could be the biggest signal that flows via NS1 might not resume this winter. Germany and surrounding countries are investigating the incident. NS2 cannot impact flows to the EU because the controversial idled conduit was never operational after German Chancellor Olaf Scholz canceled it after Russia invaded Ukraine earlier this year.

Klaus Mueller, the president of the German energy network regulator, tweeted that the market situation remains "tense," but Germany and the EU are no longer dependent on NS supplies.

Nord Stream AG issued an outage message that is active until Oct. 26, while the German economy ministry said it's investigating the incident.

Dutch front-month gas, the European benchmark, was up nearly 10% at 190.50 euros per megawatt-hour on Tuesday morning.


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The simultaneous pressure drop of the NS lines suggests some market participants may watch for any indication of sabotage.

Denmark's Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said it was hard to imagine NS gas leaks were caused by a "coincidence."

Frederiksen didn't rule out sabotage, though she said it was too early to draw any conclusions, according to Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-energy-denmark/danish-pm-says-hard-to-believe-nord-stream-gas-leaks-a-coincidence-idINC7N2YM00X), quoting public broadcaster DR during a visit to Poland.

A German security official told Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-27/nord-stream-probing-pressure-drop-at-second-russian-gas-link?sref=By7uNNel) that NS damage appears to be the result of "sabotage."
The evidence points to a violent act, rather than a technical issue, according to a German security official, who asked not to be identified because the matter is being probed. -Bloomberg
German daily newspaper Tagesspiegel (https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wirtschaft/druckabfall-in-beiden-leitungen-gemeldet-nord-stream-pipelines-moglicherweise-durch-anschlage-beschadigt-8687140.html) reported that "the Nord Stream pipelines may have been damaged by targeted attacks and leaked as a result."

A source close to the government, quoted in the newspaper, said, "everything speaks against a coincidence."
"We cannot imagine a scenario that is not a targeted attack," the source said.
Die Welt, another German newspaper, reported the timing of the NS damage may suggest sabotage and was unlikely to be an accident.

Reporters asked Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov if the NS system's pressure drop could be due to sabotage. He responded: "It is impossible to exclude any options."

There appears to be no immediate end to the gas leak from NS pipelines, according to the Danish national daily newspaper Berlingske, which quoted Danish Energy Authority.

Full article (more tweeter comments/videos): https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/damage-nord-stream-pipelines-unprecedented-may-have-been-sabotaged

[Bill Ryan]

A few thoughts.


The Russians will have 'turned off the tap' pretty fast. But there'll still be a lot of gas in the system that will find its way out.
Divers are already being prepared to go down and take a close look. It's only 80-110m deep, and that's not hard to get to.
It'll soon be very obvious what's happened. The explosions give a strong clue.
The western mainstream will try to spin (rather desperately!) that somehow it was Russia that did this — i.e. to itself, like shelling the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. :) That's so implausible that no-one will buy it.
There are quite a few ways that sabotage could have been effected. Small navy two-man mini-subs can easily do this kind of thing, exactly what they were designed for. It's also very possible that there are small undersea drones that can do the same.
It'll very likely be impossible to ever firmly establish who did it, as in hard evidence. There'd be zero forensics or video footage, as with an explosion on land or even a plane crash. So that will leave the international finger-pointing going on for weeks on end with no possible resolution or agreement.

[Tintin]

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1574702376262701056

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And there's this:

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...preceded with this:

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[Bill Ryan]

A referendum update, from Sputnik News.

https://sputniknews.com/20220927/live-updates-referenda-in-donbass-republics-zaporozhye--kherson-regions-enter-final-day-1101255443.html#

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Preliminary Referendum Results From Polling Stations in Russia Show Overwhelming Support for Unification.

According to initial results from polling stations across the Russian Federation, people from Donbass and the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions living in Russia are voting to join the country:


97.91% votes of DPR citizens (14% processed)
97.82% votes of LPR citizens (13% processed)
98.19% votes of Zaporozhye region residents (18% processed)
96.97% votes of Kherson region residents (14% processed)

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democracy (https://www.britannica.com/topic/democracy)
de·moc·ra·cy


Literally, rule by the people. The term is derived from the Greek dēmokratia, which was coined from dēmos (“people”) and kratos (“rule”) in the middle of the 5th century bce to denote the political systems then existing in some Greek city-states, notably Athens.
:)

[thepainterdoug]

ATT/ From Paul Craig Roberts

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/09/27/a-fateful-moment-of-history-is-upon-us/

From the article/

A Fateful Moment of History Is Upon Us
September 27, 2022 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags: | Print This Article Print This Article
A Fateful Moment of History Is Upon Us

Paul Craig Roberts

Dear Readers, I have explained to you that there has been no Russian defeat in Ukraine and will not be a Russian defeat. I informed you that Putin and the Kremlin are committed to one important thing that differentiates Russia from the US and that is that Russia follows international law and the US does not. This is why there has been no “Russian invasion of Ukraine” as proclaimed by Western propagandists. Kiev, the functioning of the Ukraine government, and the cities and infrastructure of western Ukraine have not been attacked. The Kremlin has limited its military operations to the areas in Ukraine where the majority Russian population was being shelled, occupied, and murdered by Ukrainian forces and which faced last February an invasion of a large Western-trained Ukrainian army and neo-Nazi militias intended to overthrow the two independent Donbass republics recognized by the Russian government. The republics requested Russia’s intervention, which made the “limited military operation” legal under international law.

As my readers know, I regard the limited operation a mistake as it has drawn out the conflict and allowed the West to get deeply involved, thus promising a wider war that would likely turn nuclear. I thought and still do that Russia was emphasizing legality at the risk of nuclear war.

The Kremlin has now acted to remove the constraint of international law with the referendums in the four areas whether the inhabitants wish reunification with Russia. It is clear that the vote will be yes, and that the Duma and the Kremlin will proceed rapidly to reincorporate the former Russian territory back into Russia.

At that point Ukraine’s continuation of the war involves direct Ukrainian aggression against Russia herself. This frees the Kremlin’s hands as the war becomes Russia’s response to Ukrainian aggression. At this point it will be clear to all involved that Kiev, the Ukraine government, and the cities and infrastructure of western Ukraine no longer have immunity. In other words it becomes a real war with devastating consequences for Ukraine and possibly as well for all Western suppliers of weapons and intelligence.

Americans are not prepared for this, because all they have heard about the conflict is Russophobic propaganda and false reporting of the reality.

Larry Johnson, an honest and competent commentator, repeats this account and adds that the West lacks the capacity to produce weapons and ammunition on the scale demanded by a full war and that the European economies are facing shutdowns as the consequent of US sanctions against Russia. The message is that the US/NATO have no means of preventing a rapid Russian conquest of Ukraine except by resort to nuclear war, in which case the Western World will cease to exist.

That we could be in this extremely dangerous position is due to the total absence in the West of an honest and independent media and of honest and competent Russian experts. Essentially, there is no intelligence in the West among those making decisions and no accurate information getting through to the Western populations.

I and a few others have made huge efforts, but we are called “conspiracy theorists,” “Russian agents/dupes,” and other names used to discredit those who actually understand the reality of the situation. The growing restraints on what can be said, or if said paid attention to, has created massive ignorance as we come to a possible fateful moment in history.

Here is Larry Johnson:

MORE ON THE REFERENDUM GAME CHANGER

https://sonar21.com/more-on-the-referendum-game-changer/

[Spiral]

I'll just leave this here....


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[Mashika]

A referendum update, from Sputnik News.

https://sputniknews.com/20220927/live-updates-referenda-in-donbass-republics-zaporozhye--kherson-regions-enter-final-day-1101255443.html#

~~~

Preliminary Referendum Results From Polling Stations in Russia Show Overwhelming Support for Unification.

According to initial results from polling stations across the Russian Federation, people from Donbass and the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions living in Russia are voting to join the country:


97.91% votes of DPR citizens (14% processed)
97.82% votes of LPR citizens (13% processed)
98.19% votes of Zaporozhye region residents (18% processed)
96.97% votes of Kherson region residents (14% processed)

~~~


democracy (https://www.britannica.com/topic/democracy)
de·moc·ra·cy


Literally, rule by the people. The term is derived from the Greek dēmokratia, which was coined from dēmos (“people”) and kratos (“rule”) in the middle of the 5th century bce to denote the political systems then existing in some Greek city-states, notably Athens.
:)

I already read the usual lame trolls in Telegram and other places, trying to disinform and confuse people, playing with the meaning of the numbers to discredit the referendum

Basically: They are trying to say that Russia claims those numbers represent the number of voters in the regions, as opposed to the total votes in favor of joining Russia

So "97.91% votes of DPR citizens" has been turned into "97.91% of the DPR population went to vote in favor of Russia"

Truly misleading and an attempt to discredit by claiming it is impossible that almost 100% of the population went to vote in 3 days

Just the usual ridiculous lies, and very much sure enough that lots of people will start using that as a talking point or as 'evidence' of the 'sham' :P

~~

Some people apparently confuse or do not understand what an "echo chamber" is. Somehow, they think that posting evidence, or news of the current events, or articles exposing or analysing the situation, represents an 'echo chamber', simply because the collected evidence or state of the operation shows Russia is winning, or that the evidence proves that Ukraine has committed war crimes

Those people, instead of posting evidence to the contrary, or talk with their own voice and minds, and give their own opinions, just simply complain that no one is posting pro-ukrainian articles, videos or evidence of any kind. But, why is it that they themselves don't post it instead of complaining no one else is doing it? What are they afraid of? Getting exposed promoting or excusing nazi propaganda? Or maybe they fear that they post something and then it comes out that it was a shameless lie and they are ridiculed or end up looking foolish and uneducated?

In the end, they just repeat dumb talking points taken from the western pro-nazi propaganda machine, making themselves be part of the actual echo chamber, because they have no opinion of their own, at all ... the irony of it all.... lol

Being able to have critical thinking is critical these days :P

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Bill Ryan]

https://twitter.com/FridhKleberg/status/1574823827015700499

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[onawah]

Russian Ministry of Defense video
WHAT IS THE U.S. HIDING ABOUT BIOLABS IN UKRAINE?
9/26/22
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/what-is-the-us-hiding-about-biolabs-in-ukraine/

"The Russian Ministry of Defense just released a video about the US/Deep State biological network in Ukraine and @Clandestine on TRUTHSocial has kindly translated the slides for us on his Substack:

Slide 1: What is the US hiding about biolabs in Ukraine?

Slide 2: Russia presented proof of US military biological activities in Ukraine.

Slide 3: Americans have spent over $250 million since 2005, according to the Defense Department.

Slide 4: Including for the construction and modernization of biological laboratories.

Slide 5: They are coordinated by the US Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA).

Slide 6: The Americans do not deny the fact of cooperation with Kyiv.

Slide 7: Although they say their goal was to improve the epidemiological situation in Ukraine,

Slide 8: But they don’t explain how it fits in with the research of potential biological operations,

Slide 9: As well as economically significant infections.

Slide 10: Another priority for biolabs was the collection and export to the United States.

Slide 11: Strains of pathogens of dangerous infectious diseases – anthrax, cholera, tularemia.

Slide 12: Biological material was also exported to other countries.

Slide 13: The samples, themselves with hazardous bioagents were often improperly stored.

Slide 14: The Ministry of Defense also drew attention to the fact that various studies were often carried out

Slide 15: On socially-unprotected categories of Ukrainian citizens.

Slide 16: At the same, back in 2013, Ukraine tried to curtail the biological projects of the Pentagon.

Slide 17: But had to give in under pressure from Washington.

Slide 18: Neither the United States nor Ukraine have been able to provide conclusive evidence.

Slide 19: That their cooperation is beneficial.

Slide 20: Just as Kyiv could not explain why it began to destroy documents,

Slide 21: About joint military biological activities with the Americans.

This is an information operation by the Russian military that is simplifying the discoveries from their mission in Ukraine for a broad audience with small, digestible, visual aides.

Clandestine writes:

Regardless of if these allegations are true or not (all the evidence suggests that they are), the reality is, that the People of the Eastern world are being normalized to believe that Biden and the US were creating bioweapons in Ukraine, and the Western People are largely oblivious to the allegations as a whole.

Also, keep in mind that the Russian Foreign Ministry and Russian Legislators expect a conclusion to their final report to the UN in the “fall”. It’s fall. The timing of this video suggests that things may be coming that the broader public need to be introduced to.

Also, be sure to recognize that Trump has not appeared anywhere near any of the allegations or reports. Russia continue to direct the activity at Biden and the DNC specifically. Russia went out of their way to make sure the word knows Trump is excluded from these allegations. Which, whether these allegations are true or not, proves there is some level of alliance, truce, or agreement of some kind, between Trump and Putin.

This video also proves that the allegations are not going away. Russian MIL have been pushing this heavily for approximately 7 months now. Providing consistent evidence to the UN. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. This isn’t a baseless disinformation campaign. Putin and Russia are serious about this, they were willing to go to war over it, and now Putin claims they are willing to use his entire arsenal to neutralize this global threat.

This problem isn’t going away. If Russia continue to be ignored, they will resort to alternative solutions if diplomacy fails. The world teeters on the brink of nuclear destruction."

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[ExomatrixTV]

We're On The Precipice of WWIII For No National Security Reason Whatsoever!:

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[Bill Ryan]

A fascinating discussion, a livestream less than an hour old and still going, primarily between Alexander Mercouris and Jackson Hinkle. Excellent and revealing so far. :thumbsup:

Maybe we should post an Avalon poll: Which country did this?
(That's almost rhetorical. Has to be the US.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpjj5CYI4aA

[ExomatrixTV]

Putin “Not Bluffing” Over Nuclear Weapons With “Great World Conflict” Coming In The Next Two Months!:

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[ExomatrixTV]

Oh Sh*t, They Just Crossed The Line And Putin Knows It's Game Time:

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Did the US just destroy the Nordstream 2 pipeline (https://www.ninefornews.nl/biden-waarschuwde-in-februari-als-rusland-binnenvalt-maken-wij-een-einde-aan-nord-stream-2/)? Germany faces a disaster in the making as natural gas is cutoff from Russia. Russia and China line up warships off the coast of Alaska. Serbia signs an agreement with Russia. And UFO's take front stage in Washington.


dutch (https://www.ninefornews.nl/biden-waarschuwde-in-februari-als-rusland-binnenvalt-maken-wij-een-einde-aan-nord-stream-2/) 🇳🇱 (+ Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

Nordstream Pipeline SABOTAGED In “Mystery” Explosion Leak? & SHOCKING JAMA Tweet!:

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[TargeT]

Nordstream Pipeline SABOTAGED In “Mystery” Explosion Leak? & SHOCKING JAMA Tweet!:

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Lots of speculation ... and a lot of it pointed at the US....

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[ExomatrixTV]

Putin Just Called Their Bluff And It's About To Get Real Bad:

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The United States has stepped up the rhetoric around nuclear war in response to Russian President Vladimir Putin's speech around nuclear war. Is the U.S. actively engaged in war? This is only the third time Russia has mobilized its army so this is serious business.

[ExomatrixTV]

Sabotage? Both NordStream Pipelines Blown Up!:

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[ExomatrixTV]

Results filtering through from Russia's referendums in Ukraine:

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[Bill Ryan]

https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/status/1574773366321549312

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[Satori]

A fascinating discussion, a livestream less than an hour old and still going, primarily between Alexander Mercouris and Jackson Hinkle. Excellent and revealing so far. :thumbsup:

Maybe we should post an Avalon poll: Which country did this?
(That's almost rhetorical. Has to be the US.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpjj5CYI4aA

No one country did this. The oligarch, criminal globalists do not think in terms of countries. They think in terms of their perceived interests at any particular time, which boils down to gaining and maintaining power and control.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1574866391341142016
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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1574911774767210496
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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1574919316063092737
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https://www.rt.com/russia/563615-zelensky-office-russians-surrender/


Ukraine threatens Russian reservists

The chief of staff of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has told Russian troops to surrender if they want “a chance to live,” claiming they will otherwise be killed.

Andrey Yermak made the threat on Tuesday to reservists who are entering military service under the partial mobilization announced last week in Russia.

“Mobilized Russians who surrender will have a chance to keep their lives. The rest of them will not,” he tweeted.

Other senior Ukrainian officials have made similar statements since Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the military draft last Wednesday. Zelensky himself urged mobilized Russians to “protest, fight, run or surrender,” claiming that those were the options for them “to survive.”

Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said on Wednesday that the mobilization would see some 300,000 reservists called to arms. He explained that additional troops were required to control Russian-held areas and the 1,000km contact line with Ukrainian forces.

READ MORE: Zelensky promises ‘comfortable’ stay in Turkey for Neo-Nazis
Russia has amended its criminal code, making voluntary surrender during wartime a serious felony. People found guilty of the crime face up to ten years in prison under the new legislation, which was signed into law by President Putin last Saturday.

The largest exchange of POWs between Russia and Ukraine, which was mediated by Türkiye, took place last week. Among the Ukrainian troops that Moscow agreed to set free were dozens of members of the neo-Nazi Azov regiment.

[Ravenlocke]

https://www.rt.com/russia/563558-donbass-joining-procedure-steps/


Four regions vote to join Russia: What’s next?

The Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (LPR and DPR) along with Kherson Region and part of Zaporozhye Region in southern Ukraine have voted to join Russia in referendums that were held between September 23 and 27.

In Lugansk, more than 98% of voters have supported the idea to join Russia, official figures show with all the ballots counted. Donetsk has shown similar results with more than 99% of voters supporting the move. Both Zaporozhye and Kherson regions have process all the ballots by late Tuesday, with 93% and 87% of voters respectively backing the split from Ukraine and reunification with Russia.

The process of integrating new regions into Russia may take some time as it requires the approval of the country’s parliament and the president. But Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Friday that he was “convinced it will be fast enough.”

Under the Russian constitution and the federal law on the accession of new constituent members, the procedure includes several steps. Once the regions willing to become part of the Russian Federation submit their proposals to Moscow, the president should inform parliament and the government on the matter, Senator Konstantin Kosachev explained in a Telegram post last week.

If a political agreement on the accession is reached, “draft international treaties on the admission of foreign states or parts of them” to Russia should be developed, Kosachev, the vice speaker of the upper house of parliament, said. These agreements regulate issues such as the name and status of new territories, citizenship, succession, the functioning of public authorities, the operation of legislation, and so forth.

Early turnout numbers for referendums on joining Russia revealed
Early turnout numbers for referendums on joining Russia revealed
After these treaties are signed, the Russian Constitutional Court should verify if they comply with the country’s supreme law. If there are no violations, the next step will be the ratification of the documents by the lower house, the State Duma, and their approval by the upper house, the Federation Council.

Simultaneously, a draft federal constitutional law on the admission of new constituent units to Russia should be submitted to the Duma. If approved, it then goes to the upper house for consideration.

“This law enters into force no earlier than the entry into force of the international treaties themselves,” Kosachev noted.

Moscow warned earlier that if the Donbass republics and the two southern Ukrainian regions united with Russia, it would consider any attempts by Kiev to retake them as attacks on its own land. “Immediately the Russian Constitution will come into force in relation to these territories where everything is very clearly stated in this regard,” Peskov told journalists last week.

Shortly after the regions decided to hold referendums, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization that involved calling to arms some 300,000 reservists, according to the military. Media reports have suggested that Moscow allegedly plans to mobilize up to a million.

Kiev considers the territories willing to join Russia to be under illegal occupation and said it would not recognize the results of the referendums. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has ruled out any possibility of talks after the voting.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba stated last Tuesday that “Ukraine has every right to liberate its territories and will keep liberating them, whatever Russia has to say.”

The EU and the US have already called the voting a “sham.” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken told CBS on Sunday that the LPR, DPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions “will never be recognized” as part of Russian territory. He added that Kiev had “every right” to take them back.

Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian president Pyotr Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”

In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states and demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked.

[Ravenlocke]

https://sputniknews.com/20220927/local-electoral-commissions-referenda-in-kherson-zaporozhye-dpr--lpr-recognized-as-valid-1101288885.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


Local Electoral Commissions: Referenda in Kherson, Zaporozhye, DPR & LPR Recognized as Valid


The referendum on joining Russia started simultaneously on September 23 in the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, as well as in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. Voting lasted five days, until September 27. Russian President Vladimir Putin said last week that Russia would support the decision made by the residents.

According to the results of processing 100% of the ballots, 98.42% (over 1.6 million people) of the inhabitants of the Lugansk People's Republic voted for joining Russia, Elena Kravchenko, chairwoman of the republic's electoral commission, told reporters on Tuesday evening.
The head of the LPR Leonid Pasechnik said upon declaring the results that intimidation by nationalists and shelling by Ukraine could not prevent the referendum from taking place. He added that he is "proud" of his fellow citizens, and that the result is "a victory for us," given that the breakaway republic has been striving toward this goal for "a long eight years."
"We deserve it, and we have reached it," Pasechnik stressed.
Meanwhile, in the neighboring Donbass republic of Donetsk, based on all of the ballots processed, 99.23% of its residents voted for joining the Russian Federation, according to Vladimir Vysotsky, chairman of the DPR CEC.
The total turnout was 97.51% of all registered voters. A total of 2,133,326 voters took part in the voting.
Vysorsky pointed out that only 0.68% voted against accession to Russia during the five-day referendum. The central electoral commission of the republic declared the referendum valid, as the chairman stated that there were no complaints about irregularities in the referendum at the time of determining the results of the vote.

The republic's head, Denis Pushilin, said that the referendum has officially been held,and it's results are "colossal."


"We have been moving towards this for so long, and here it is - a colossal result. To say that we did not expect such a result would be untrue. I personally believed and continue to believe in Donbass, I believe in our people. We have all wanted this," Pushilin said.
Pushilin added that after the results of the referendum were announced, the agreement would be signed and ratified by the State Duma and the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, the lower and the upper chambers of the nation's parliament.
In the Kherson region, located just north of the Crimean peninsula, per the local central electoral commission, as 100% of the votes were processed, a total of 87.05% of the inhabitants voted for joining the Russian Federation.
Per Marina Zakharova, chairwoman of the regional electoral commission, a total number of 497,051 participants in the referendum said "Yes" to the question put forward at the referendum: "Are you for the withdrawal of the Kherson region from Ukraine, the formation of an independent state by the Kherson region and its entry into the Russian Federation as a constituent entity of the Russian Federation?" The number far exceeds 50% of the votes required to pass the referendum.
In total, 571,001 people took part in the referendum in the Kherson region, which is 76.86% of the list of voters there. Members of the commission unanimously voted for the recognition of the referendum as valid and approved the voting results.
And in the Zaporozhye region, after processing 100% of the referendum ballots, 93.11% of voters supported reunification with Russia, said the head of the regional electoral committee, Galina Katyushchenko. According to the local CEC, there were also no major violations or any irregularities during the referendum.
Following the referendum, the region de facto withdrew from Ukraine and is waiting for the decision of Moscow on admitting it, the region's head Evgeny Balitsky told reporters on Tuesday evening, adding that the local authorities have already submitted the formal application to the Russian government.

'Welcome Home, to Russia'

Deputy Chairman of Russia's Security Council, former President Dmitry Medvedev claimed in his post on Telegram that the results of the referenda are "clear."
"Welcome home, to Russia!" he wrote.
In turn, the DPR head Pushilin said that in terms of the local authorities' next steps, everything is proceeding according to plan, and the plan is to become part of Russia.
"Of course, we will come to the next legal step. Everything is according to the plan that we drew for ourselves a long time ago - this is the plan to become part of a great country, Russia, as soon as possible," Pushilin said.
Earlier this month, the local public movements addressed the regional authorities with an initiative to immediately hold referendums. According to representatives of the republics and regions, joining Russia will secure their territories and restore historical justice.
In their opinion, this decision is extremely necessary amid the constant acts of terror by the nationalist authorities of Ukraine and NATO members, who supply Kiev with weapons to kill civilians.
Russian President Putin said that Moscow will support the decision made by the residents of the Donbass, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.

As for the republics of Donbass, on February 21 this year, Putin announced the recognition of the sovereignty of the LPR and the DPR. He asked the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation (Russia's bicameral parliament) to support this decision and then ratify the Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Assistance with the republics of Donbass.
Back in 2014. when the conflict in eastern Ukraine erupted, both the DPR and the LPR held referenda on self-determination on May 11, 2014, amid the military operation launched by the Ukrainian authorities in April of the same year against the Donbass.
96.2% of the referendum participants voted for self-determination of the LPR, while 89.7% voted the same in the DPR. The next day, May 12, 2014, the state sovereignty of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics was proclaimed.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1574954677824720898
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1574946594411384832
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1574691682372550656
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[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1574960730381881344
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[Ravenlocke]

https://www.rt.com/news/563631-blinken-ukraine-targeting-russia/

Ukraine can use Western weapons against ‘territories seized by Russia’ – US

Washington has no objections to Kiev using Western-supplied weapons to target territories that may decide to join Russia, as the US considers the vote to do so illegitimate, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Tuesday.

The US and its allies have supplied Ukraine with a variety of weapons, including tube and rocket artillery. At a joint press conference with his Indian counterpart Dr. Subrahmanyam Jaishankar in Washington, Blinken was asked if the US had any objections to Ukraine using those weapons to attack targets in Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson, which just wrapped up a vote on joining Russia.

“We will never recognize the annexation of Ukrainian territory by Russia,” Blinken told reporters. “Ukraine has the absolute right to defend itself throughout its territory, including to take back the territory that has been illegally seized, one way or another, by Russia. And the equipment, the weapons that we and many other countries are providing, have been used very effectively to do just that.”

Russia’s “annexation” of the Donbass republics and the two regions will make zero difference to either Ukraine or the US, Blinken insisted. “The Ukrainians will continue to do what they need to do to get back the land that has been taken from them. We will continue to support them in that effort.”

EU threatens foreign observers over Donbass referendums
EU threatens foreign observers over Donbass referendums
In June, when the US first sent long-range HIMARS rocket artillery to Ukraine, Blinken said he had received “assurances” from Kiev that they will not be used on Russian territory, and that he believed them due to a “strong trust bond.”

Kiev’s forces have since used the US-supplied weapons to target civilians in Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye, which are under Russian control. Ukraine has also bombed Crimea and border towns in the Russian regions of Kursk and Belgorod. Crimea rejoined Russia in March 2014, after the US-backed coup in Kiev, while Donetsk and Lugansk declared independence.

Blinken also accused Russia of a “diabolical scheme” to deport or “disappear” the local Ukrainian population and “bus in” Russians who would then vote in a manipulated referendum to get annexed by Moscow.

Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”

In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states and demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked.

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https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1574854894049234948
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https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1574711348830912515
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https://twitter.com/unesco_russia/status/1574699119708446720
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1574927278860947456
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[Tintin]

An interesting story shared here by Eva Bartlett via her Telegram channel around the referendum in DPR, published September 24:

Reality_Theories/8969

[Tintin]

That RAND report (https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/2022_Russian_invasion_%28Operation-Z%29/RAND_confidential_report_dated_January_25_2022/RAND_confidential_report_dated_January_25_2022.pdf) (in our library as well) certainly is beginning to come to life isn't it?

Might be worth reacquainting ourselves with the January Executive Summary again, page 3, "Weakening Germany, Strengthening the US"

[Johnnycomelately]

I am all for these referendums, but one thing looks off: the hovering of two full-autos pointed at the three prone zip tied ‘suspects/perps’. Maybe it’s true, but the inclusion of that scene cheapens the veracity, makes it look made up (fake news).


An interesting story shared here by Eva Bartlett via her Telegram channel around the referendum in DPR, published September 24:

Reality_Theories/8969

[Journeyman]

I'll just leave this here....


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Are you buying (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113728-You-re-watching-a-movie&p=1520207&viewfull=1#post1520207)any of this?

[Tintin]

https://telegra.ph/file/969ea3726e097251522f4.jpg

Source: https://telegra.ph/Statement-by-the-Russian-Federation-on-the-false-allegations-against-the-Russian-Federation-made-by-Ukraine-to-cover-up-its-own--09-27

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Much too detailed to post in its entirety here but an extremely important document all the same so I've chosen to extract a few key comments. The document, already saved, will be in the library before the day is out.

Although much of this is already known to awake and aware members here, and I'd hope many outside observers too, it is well worth being reminded that all these atrocities, provocations, and war crimes have been thoroughly documented, and are truthful accounts.

History will show who the real criminals always have been.

This document provides the evidence.


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Statement by the Russian Federation
Russian MFA September 27, 2022

Statement by the Russian Federation on the false allegations against the Russian Federation made by Ukraine to cover up its own violations of international law and military crimes against civilian population of Donbass as well as Kharkov, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions

The Statement to be presented during the investigation related to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

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[Extracted]
Bucha



On 1 September 2022, Russian journalist Mr. Maxim Grigoriev published an interview with French journalist Mr. Adrian Boke, who visited Bucha in early April 2022 as part of the Western mass-media delegation. Mr. Adrian Boke confirmed that he was aware of the staged nature of the so called ‘Bucha massacre’. He stated, inter alia, that:

‘Of course, a journalist waiting the corpses to be piled together on the road cannot but know what’s happening… There was raining in Bucha for two days before we came, so the bodies were very dirty, and their hands were not tied at first… And then they [Ukrainians] showed me pictures of corpses with their hands tied with very clean rags or bandages, which I had never seen when I was in Bucha… Well, it was very strange… How could one explain the fact that on very dirty corpses, despite the fact that it rained for two days, there were very clean bandages… One of the volunteers who came to Bucha before me told me that they carried corpses from one house to another, and then they took them to Bucha and laid them out… Well, what I saw with my very own eyes is how the corpses were taken out of the cars and laid out in piles."’.

Mariupol Maternity Hospital



On 11 April 2022, Mrs. Marianna Vyshemirskaya was interviewed by an Italian VisiOne TV journalist Giorgio Bianci. She said as follows:

‘The days of 8 and 9 March were very quiet. And then on 9 March we were in our rooms chatting quietly, with the boxes they gave us with the things for the babies, for the women who had given birth and were about to leave… Then we felt explosions. I was able to cover myself with a blanket. Also the women, some lied on the floor, some covered themselves. Then we heard a second explosion. And we heard a sound of broken glass. And there were also so much dust, it was hard to breath. They asked me, if there was an aerial raid. I said that no one heard an aerial raid, because the explosions happened, there were no other noises, before or after. If it was an aerial attack, we would have heard. Many said that I’m a blogger and can’t know how is an aerial raid. But, excuse me, when a plane flies, everyone can hear it… I am shocked at how the reporters were able to film all that. They were already there and filmed both explosions. I was very surprised. The first question I had in my mind, did they already know, it was going to happen? How were they able to arrive so quickly? There were many things I didn’t like about those AP reporters’."

Mariupol Drama Theater



During a search and rescue operation by the DPR EMERCOM at the Mariupol theatre, 14 bodies were found, most of which belonged to “Azov” fighters. Not a single remnant of an air-dropped bomb was found at the scene. An official investigation by the DPR Prosecutor-General’s office determined that the collapse of the Drama theatre was caused by explosion of ammunition belonging to “Azov” that was stored in the building. Almost all the civilians managed to escape the building long before the explosion took place.

Ukrainian Armed Forces deployed its troops and heavy military equipment in residential areas, using civilian houses and socially significant facilities as a cover



UAF intentionally used weapon systems from residential areas aiming to provoke return fire and then blame Russia and DPR and LPR militia for the consequences.

The UAF troops and heavy equipment, deployed in residential areas close to the contact line in violation of the Minsk Package of Measures, were spotted multiple times by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine (hereinafter – “OSCE SMM”) monitors. For example, in the Daily Report of 31 March 2018 OSCE SMM reported on digging trenches outside of civilian house occupied by UAF military personnel:

An SMM mini-UAV spotted on 29 March recently dug trenches about 40m from a residential house on the south-eastern edge of Travneve (government-controlled, 51km north-east of Donetsk).

The picture of the above-mentioned house was later demonstrated by the OSCE SMM deputy head, Mr. Alexander Hug, while delivering the briefing for the Diplomatic Corps at the SMM headquarters in Kiev on 30 March 2018.

On 4 December 2018, an SMM mini-UAV spotted a surface-to-air missile system (9K33 Osa) near Klynove (68km north-east of Donetsk) along with a group of UAF soldiers outside of an occupied civilian house.

In Disengagement Areas, UAF used civilian houses as a cover for trenches and armoured vehicles, in order to be able to maintain their position, illegally taken in so called ‘grey zone’. Thus, in OSCE SMM Daily Report of 23 April 2018 it was emphasized, that:

The SMM observed armoured combat vehicles and an anti-aircraft gun in the security zone. In government-controlled areas, the SMM saw on 20 April four infantry fighting vehicles (IFV) (BMP-2) and an armoured reconnaissance vehicle (BRDM-2) near Zolote-1/Soniachnyi, two IFVs (BMP-2) near Zolote, five IFVs (BMP-2) near Zolote-3/Stahanovets, an armoured reconnaissance vehicle (BRM-1K) near Zolote 2 (60km west of Luhansk)… On 21 April, the SMM saw… three armoured reconnaissance vehicles (BRDM-2) and two IFVs (BMP-1) on flatbed trucks near Zolote… On 22 April, the SMM saw two IFVs (BMP-2) near Zolote…

Ukraine’s innuendos on ‘Russia’s deadly atrocities in Ukraine’ are aimed to diverse attention from the military crimes committed by Ukraine itself in Donbass and the Azov sea region.



On 24 August 2022, at the Security Council briefing on Ukraine the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the United Nations, Mr. Vassily Nebenzia, stated that:

"Criminal shelling of the republics of Donbas does not stop. According to available assessments, since the beginning of the escalation in the Donetsk People's Republic in February more than 840 people have died along the line of contact, about 2,800 were injured. In the Luhansk People's Republic, 80 people were killed and more than 250 were injured. About a hundred civilians have been killed in just four weeks since the previous meeting on July 29."

On 14 March 2022 at about 11.30 a.m. Moscow time a Tochka-U tactical missile with a cluster warhead was fired at a residential block in the center of Donetsk from the territory controlled by the Kiev authorities. This assault led to the killing of 23 civilians while 37, including children, women and elderly people, were injured and taken to medical institutions.

On 16 March 2022, Russia circulated within the United Nations as an official document of the Security Council and the General Assembly a letter by the Permanent Representative of Russia to the United Nations (A/76/761-S/2022/233), in which it emphasized that the use of such weapons in a city where there are no firing positions of the armed forces constitutes a war crime. In particular, it was stated that this horrific attack by the Kiev authorities violated the very basic yet important rule of international humanitarian law enshrined in Article 48 of the Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and Relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol I) of 8 June 1977:

"Parties to the conflict shall at all times distinguish between the civilian population and combatants and between civilian objects and military objectives and accordingly shall direct their operations only against military objectives".



............. On 29 July 2022, the Ukrainian artillery shelled Yelenovka, DPR, also from M142 HIMARS MLRS. As a result of a direct hit, one of the barracks of the DPR Penal Colony No. 120 (IK-120) was destroyed, leaving 50 people killed and about 100 wounded, mostly captured Ukrainian militants, which had been held in that penitentiary.

It was a well-known fact, that the Ukrainian military and the nationalists from the NGU “Azov” regiment captured by the Russian Armed Forces and DPR People’s Militia in different parts of Donbass, mostly Mariupol, were held in IK-120. These inmates actively cooperated with Russian investigative authorities and testified on war crimes committed by the Ukrainian side.

.........................Assassinating political activists, journalists and representatives of the local authorities in the liberated areas of Ukraine and even in the Russian Federation is an intimidation tactic of Kiev.

On 23 May 2022, the Major of Energodar, Zaporozhye region, Mr. Andrey Shevchik, was seriously wounded after an explosive device planted at the entrance of his house had gone off. On 22 June 2022, Head of the Chernobayevka town administration (Kherson region), Mr. Yury Turulev was injured after an explosive device planted on his way in the residential area blew up. On 11 July 2022, the Russian military mine cleaners defused an explosive device planted on the way of the Kherson region Military and Civil administration Mr. Vladimir Saldo. On the same day, the Head of the Velikiy Burluk, Kharkov region, town administration Mr. Yevgeniy Yunakov died after an explosive device planted under his car went off. In Melitopol, Zaporozhye region, the law enforcement officers eliminated a Ukrainian attempted to murder the Melitopol district Head of Administration Mr. Andrey Siguta. On 5 August 2022, the SSU Agent planted an explosive device under the car of the Berdyansk major Mr. Alexander Saulenko. On 20 August 2022, a self-made explosive device went off near the entrance to the Mariupol city Zoo at the time of arrival of the Mariupol major Mr. Konstantin Ivaschenko. On 22 August 2022, the Head of the Mikhaylovka town administration, Zaporozhye region, Mr. Ivan Sushko died after an explosive device planted under his car exploded. On 23 August 2022, the Ukrainian saboteurs attempted to murder the Deputy Head of the Kherson region Military and Civil administration Mr. Igor Telegin with an explosive device planted hear his house.

On 21 August 2022, a Russian political analyst and journalist Ms. Daria Dugina was killed, as an explosive device planted under her car went off and the vehicle caught fire. Ms. Dugina, who was driving the car, died at the scene near the village of Bolshiye Vyazemy. This heinous crime was promptly investigated by the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. Its investigators identified the suspect, who turned out to be a Ukrainian citizen and the NGU “Azov” regiment officer Natalia Vovk, and traced her movements from entering Russian territory.

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[pueblo]

"U.S. citizens should not travel to Russia and those residing or travelling in Russia should depart Russia immediately..."

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[Bill Ryan]

I had to post this. One wonders what he thinks "the will of the people" really is. :)

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/5731

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[Bill Ryan]

If this is correct (can anyone confirm?), we may be seeing another major development. It appears Gazprom just ceased flowing gas through Ukraine, citing Ukraine's Naftogaz breach of contract and not fulfilling transfer obligations.

https://twitter.com/WarfareReports/status/1575040009354170368

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[Bill Ryan]

This was posted by South Front yesterday, but one day is a long time in what now looks to be a rapidly escalating global war.
My own comment: though like many others I strongly suspect US involvement, it does seem plausible that some other faction may be trying to frame the US for this, taking advantage of the known presence of a US Navy ship in the area at the time.
It seems unlikely that if the US did do this, they'd be so very brazen about the visible presence of their ship. A real James-Bond-type sabotage attempt would be far more clandestine, and if carried out by drones, no surface vessel would ever need to be anywhere near.


https://southfront.org/us-ships-suspected-of-sabotage-attack-on-nord-stream-pipelines

US Ships Suspected of Sabotage Attack on Nord Stream Pipelines

[brief extract from a long article]

On September 27, the detachment of US Navy ships led by the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge announced the completion of work in the area of the alleged sabotage on gas pipelines. US ships completed their tasks in the Baltic Sea and were spotted heading to the Baltic Straits into the North Sea.

The group of US ships was spotted 30 kilometers from the site of the alleged sabotage on the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline and 50 kilometers from the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

[Bill Ryan]

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My own comment: though like many others I strongly suspect US involvement, it does seem plausible that some other faction may be trying to frame the US for this, taking advantage of the known presence of a US Navy ship in the area at the time.
It seems unlikely that if the US did do this, they'd be so very brazen about the visible presence of their ship. A real James-Bond-type sabotage attempt would be far more clandestine, and if carried out by drones, no surface vessel would ever need to be anywhere near.

Having said that, Caitlin Johnstone, a highly intelligent voice never to be ignored, has a twitter thread with plenty of incriminating evidence citing US means, motive and opportunity. (Those interested might take a minute or two to read the entire thread, not just this one tweet.)

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1574857056040853504

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[wegge]

This was posted by South Front yesterday, but one day is a long time in what now looks to be a rapidly escalating global war.
My own comment: though like many others I strongly suspect US involvement, it does seem plausible that some other faction may be trying to frame the US for this, taking advantage of the known presence of a US Navy ship in the area at the time.
It seems unlikely that if the US did do this, they'd be so very brazen about the visible presence of their ship. A real James-Bond-type sabotage attempt would be far more clandestine, and if carried out by drones, no surface vessel would ever need to be anywhere near.


https://southfront.org/us-ships-suspected-of-sabotage-attack-on-nord-stream-pipelines

US Ships Suspected of Sabotage Attack on Nord Stream Pipelines

[brief extract from a long article]

On September 27, the detachment of US Navy ships led by the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge announced the completion of work in the area of the alleged sabotage on gas pipelines. US ships completed their tasks in the Baltic Sea and were spotted heading to the Baltic Straits into the North Sea.

The group of US ships was spotted 30 kilometers from the site of the alleged sabotage on the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline and 50 kilometers from the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.


Biden (and Nuland) seemingly announced earlier this year that they would end Nord Stream 2 if Russia goes into Ukraine. This announcement also makes no sense if you want to keep it Bond style?

[Ravenlocke]

https://tass.com/politics/1514755

SBU charges heads of DPR, Zaporozhye, Kherson Regions over referendums

It is noted that members of election commissions are also being looked into
KIEV, September 28. /TASS/. The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has accused 16 individuals of collaborating to organize the referendums in the DPR, the LPR, the Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions on joining Russia.

The list includes DPR head Denis Pushilin, head of the Zaporozhye Region’s military-civilian administration, Yevgeny Balitsky, head of the Kherson Region’s military-civilian administration, Vladimir Saldo and his deputy Kirill Stremousov.

"The SBU has brought charges against 16 more organizers [of the referendums]," the statement on the agency’s Telegram channel reads. It is specified that investigators had brought charges against the organizers on grounds of "collaborative activities" under Ukraine’s Criminal Code.

Charges were also brought against Chairman of the DPR People’s Council Vladimir Bidevka, Melitopol Mayor Galina Danilchenko, head of the military-civilian administration of Berdyansk and the Berdyansk Region, Alexander Saulenko, head of the Melitopol Region’s military-civilian administration, Andrey Siguta and Akimovka head, Maxim Zubarev.

Members of election commissions are also being looked into, including secretary of the DPR CEC Yelena Radomskaya, chairpersons of the Zaporozhye and Kherson Region’s election commissions, Galina Katyushchenko and Marina Zakharova, as well as the heads of the elections commissions of the Genichesky, Berislavsky, Kakhovsky and Skadovsky districts of the Kherson Region.

On Wednesday, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced that government agencies had already begun searching for those Ukrainians who were involved in organizing the referendums on the territories not controlled by Kiev. Earlier, Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Reintegration of Uncontrolled Territories, Irina Vereshchuk, specified that the organizers were facing from five to ten years imprisonment and the confiscation of property.

From September 23-27, the DPR, the LPR, the Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions held referendums on joining Russia. The majority of residents in these regions voted in favor of this decision.

https://tass.com/politics/1514715?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=smm_social_share

SBU brings charges against heads of DPR, Zaporozhye, Kherson Regions over referendums

"The SBU brought charges against 16 more organizers of referendums," the statement says

KIEV, September 28. /TASS/. The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) has accused 16 individuals of collaboration for organizing referendums in the DPR, the LPR, the Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions on joining Russia.

The list includes DPR head Denis Pushilin, head of the Zaporozhye Region’s military-civilian administration Yevgeny Balitsky, head of the Kherson Region’s military-civilian administration Vladimir Saldo and his deputy Kirill Stremousov.

"The SBU brought charges against 16 more organizers [of referendums]," the statement on the agency’s Telegram channel reads. It is specified that investigators had brought charges against the organizers on the count of "collaborative activities" under Ukraine’s Criminal Code.

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https://www.rt.com/russia/563657-lugansk-kherson-putin-message/

Donbass republic and Kherson region appeal to Moscow
The leader of the Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR) and his counterpart in Kherson Region have officially asked President Vladimir Putin to be accepted into the Russian Federation. The move follows referendums on joining Russia, where the overwhelming majority voted in favor.

In a video address published on Wednesday, LPR leader Leonid Pasechnik said the republic’s residents have not received support from any country other than Russia, and have been continuously bombarded by Kiev’s forces for the past eight years.

Vladimir Saldo, leader of Ukraine’s Kherson Region, which is now mostly controlled by Russian forces, penned a similar address to Putin on Wednesday. In his letter, he also asked for his territory to be accepted into Russia, stating that the people of Kherson have expressed their desire to “reunite” with the country, which has “always lived in their hearts.”

Four regions vote to join Russia: What’s next?
Four regions vote to join Russia: What’s next?
The Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (LPR and DPR), along with Kherson Region and part of Zaporozhye Region in southern Ukraine, voted to join Russia in referendums that were held between September 23 and 27.

While the process of officially integrating these new provinces into the Russian Federation may take some time, as it requires approval from parliament and the president, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov has expressed optimism that it will be done “fast enough.”

Meanwhile, the EU and the US have called the referendums a “sham” and have vowed to “never recognize” the regions as part of the Russian Federation.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1575123490700681217
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https://www.rt.com/russia/563668-unsc-nord-stream-provocation/

Russia to summon UN Security Council

Moscow will request a meeting over a suspected “sabotage” attack on the Nord Stream pipeline

Russia to summon UN Security Council
Moscow seeks to call an emergency UN Security Council session over the “provocations” at the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines, Russian Foreign Ministry’s spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Wednesday in a Telegram post. Both pipelines were severely damaged earlier this week in what many suspect was a deliberate attack.

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https://twitter.com/RT_India_news/status/1575095827290554369
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https://twitter.com/tassagency_en/status/1575123281824317441
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[Russian diplomat warns Biden over pipeline incidents

"US President Joe Biden must answer the question of whether the United States carried out its threat on September 25 and 26 when an emergency was reported at three lines of Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2," Maria Zakharova emphasized

MOSCOW, September 28. /TASS/. US President Joe Biden should issue a reply as to whether the United States had carried out its threat over the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Wednesday.

"US President Joe Biden must answer the question of whether the United States carried out its threat on September 25 and 26 when an emergency was reported at three lines of Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2, which has been preliminarily recognized as ruptures, whereas he suggested those were blown up," the Russian diplomat said on her Telegram channel. On it, she posted a video in which the US leader delivers the speech in question.

"His statement of intent was backed up with a promise. One must be responsible for one’s words. Failure to understand what one says does not absolve anyone of responsibility. Europe must know the truth!" Zakharova emphasized.

On Tuesday, Nord Stream AG reported about "unprecedented damage" on Monday that affected three lines of the Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipelines registered within several hours. The first was identified along Nord Stream 2 near the Danish island of Bornholm, and two leaks were discovered afterwards. Denmark’s Energy Agency said a large amount of natural gas had streamed out. Aircraft and vessels were advised to stay at least five miles away from the site of the incident.

Later, Swiss seismologists said two explosions had been recorded along the routes of both pipelines on Monday. President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen slammed the incidents as sabotage and warned that "any deliberate disruption is unacceptable [and] will lead to the strongest possible response".

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[Ravenlocke]

https://www.rt.com/russia/563639-zakharova-nord-stream-sabotage/

Russia tells EU to treat US as pipeline sabotage suspect

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova has asked who the EU intends to punish with the “strongest possible response” for damage to the Nord Stream gas pipelines.

The diplomat said Poland's former foreign minister has already identified the US as the party behind the apparent sabotage. Radoslaw Sikorski is well connected to Washington elites through his employment at various think tanks.

The two Nord Stream pipelines were seriously damaged this week in what is suspected to have been a deliberate attack.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen on Tuesday called the incident “sabotage action” and warned that “any deliberate disruption of active European energy infrastructure is unacceptable and will lead to the strongest possible response.”

On Wednesday, Zakharova asked who exactly the warning would apply to.

“I don’t get it. MEP Sikorski thanked the US for what had happened, so whom is Ursula ‘threatening’ there?” she wrote on social media.

Zakharova was referring to the reaction to the incident by Sikorski, now an EU lawmaker, who posted a photo of the site where the explosions occurred on Twitter with the words: “Thank you, USA.” He described the incident as a “special maintenance operation.”

Ex-Polish FM thanks US for destruction of Russian gas pipeline
Ex-Polish FM thanks US for destruction of Russian gas pipeline
Sikorski added that “there’s no shortage of pipeline capacity for taking gas from Russia to Western Europe, including Germany,” referring to the Yamal-Europe land pipeline that goes through Belarus and Poland. After the damage to the Nord Stream strings, Russian President Vladimir Putin “will have to talk to countries controlling” the alternative route to resume supplies, he predicted.

Zakharova earlier asked if Sikorski’s tweets amounted to an “official statement that this was a terrorist attack.” Meanwhile, Dmitry Polyanskiy, the Russian deputy ambassador to the UN, thanked Sikorski for “making it crystal clear who stands behind this terrorist-style targeting of civilian infrastructure!”

There has been no shortage of threats from some Western nations against Russian undersea pipelines, particularly the Nord Stream 2 both before and after late February, when Moscow sent troops into Ukraine. It had been ready to pump gas since September last year, but was not put into operation due to Germany’s refusal to certify it. Polish President Andrzej Duda demanded last month that the pipeline be “totally scrapped.”

US President Joe Biden warned in early February, before Russia began its military operation in Ukraine, that if Moscow acts against Kiev, “there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” A journalist asked him to clarify what exactly he meant, to which Biden responded: “I promise you, we will be able to do that.”






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Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?"

Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that." http://abcn.ws/3B5SScx








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US Secretary of State Antony Blinken commented on the incident on Tuesday, stating that attacking Russian pipelines was “in no one’s interest.”

[ExomatrixTV]

The Nordstream Sabotage in Focus: A MAJOR Escalation Regardless of Whodunnit:

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[Mashika]

I think it has been made perfectly clear by now, that the US government, and the "west" and "international community" are not on equal levels of importance

This is meant for the "partners" of the "international community", which just simply means the pawns and serfs of the US government, The EU is expendable, the suffering or death of their people is of no importance, this is all about saving the US elite political community (deep state or whatever you want to call it) and nothing much more than that

And second, now it is also perfectly clear that the US government is a terrorist, desperate, declining and deranged one, they don't care anymore about anything. All those things they say about Russia, or any other country they find difficult, applies to them, it's pure projection in the end. A rabid cornered animal bites whoever gets near. The US is acting like a rabid, mindless cornered beast, hurting left and right anyone they can in a last attempt to protect themselves

People need to remove those insane people from power, because they are, in the end, destroying their own country. And the entire world is watching and understand perfectly well what's going on. there's no coming back from this now

Once some time ago, the US claimed that the EU and specially Germany, was too dependent on Russia for energy, and that it was bad, so now they have made it so that it is 100% dependent on the US and there's no other option around. It has never been a secret that the "With us or with them" divisive logic is how the US operates all around the world, and if you fall somewhere outside "With the US" then you are going to be hurt as much as needed until you correct your ways

Now it is visible beyond words and fake diplomacy. The EU has fallen and it's a serf, they can do nothing about it, they were too stupid to figure it out on time

Too bad

[Mashika]

This was posted by South Front yesterday, but one day is a long time in what now looks to be a rapidly escalating global war.
My own comment: though like many others I strongly suspect US involvement, it does seem plausible that some other faction may be trying to frame the US for this, taking advantage of the known presence of a US Navy ship in the area at the time.
It seems unlikely that if the US did do this, they'd be so very brazen about the visible presence of their ship. A real James-Bond-type sabotage attempt would be far more clandestine, and if carried out by drones, no surface vessel would ever need to be anywhere near.


https://southfront.org/us-ships-suspected-of-sabotage-attack-on-nord-stream-pipelines

US Ships Suspected of Sabotage Attack on Nord Stream Pipelines

[brief extract from a long article]

On September 27, the detachment of US Navy ships led by the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge announced the completion of work in the area of the alleged sabotage on gas pipelines. US ships completed their tasks in the Baltic Sea and were spotted heading to the Baltic Straits into the North Sea.

The group of US ships was spotted 30 kilometers from the site of the alleged sabotage on the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline and 50 kilometers from the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

It's a kind of political FUD game, i think

"If we were to blame, then why would we announce it so loud, making sure everyone would know before hand? See? It wasn't us!"

Uncertainty and doubt are major tools of control

How can they be blamed now? And since the EU, the main affected region, is now without other choice, they'll have to play along, even if they know it's all fake, what choice they have?

They (the EU) won't go against the US, even if they had the proof on their hands, they just can't. That's how dumb the EU politicians are, except the ones that are under the US payroll of course :)

This also sends another message to other countries in the world "See? We can do whatever we want and harm you if you don't play by our rules, and you can't do anything about it, just like Russia can't, and if they can't defend themselves then they also won't be coming to help you once you fall out of grace with mighty US"

It's like the nuclear bombs in Japan, another attempt to hold the world hostage through open hostility. "Our way or complete annihilation, you've seen what we are capable of, chose wisely"

[Vicus]

Nord Stream damage might be irreparable – media
The Russian gas pipelines earlier suffered a suspected sabotage attack

What is being touted as potential sabotage on the Russian Nord Stream gas pipelines might have dealt them irreparable damage, Germany’s Tagesspiegel reported on Wednesday, citing “government circles.” The two pipelines were seriously damaged earlier this week.

If the damage is not repaired quickly enough, too much salty sea water could run into the pipes lying at the bottom of the Baltic Sea and irreversibly corrode them, German officials have warned, according to the news media outlet. Denmark said on Wednesday that its authorities would be able to launch a probe into the issue no sooner than in a week or two due to “safety concerns,” Tagesspiegel added.

The media outlet does not mention any plans for repair work by either Russia or Germany.

A group of senior German MPs were quick to point the finger at Russia and blame Moscow for the incident. “An attack on the energy supply infrastructure is intended to spread fear and terror,” Roderich Kiesewetter, a German MP and spokesman for crisis prevention for the Conservative Union parliamentary group, told the RND media group.

“Therefore, it is likely that Russia is trying … to stir up uncertainty among the European population” and supposedly demonstrate its ability to attack critical infrastructure, he added, accusing Moscow of employing a “state terrorism” approach.

The head of the German parliament’s Defense Committee, Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann, told journalists that “it cannot be ruled out that [such attacks] will be directed by Russia in order to shake our markets.” She also used the occasion to call on Germany and the EU to “free” themselves from the “dependence on Russian raw materials as quickly as possible.”

Danish authorities confirmed leaks on the pipelines on Monday after their operator reported a loss of pressure on both Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines earlier that day. Danish and Swedish authorities then spoke of a series of undersea explosions in the area. Russian, American, and Swedish authorities said the leaks might have been the result of a deliberate attack.

The EU vowed “the strongest possible response” to any attacks on its active energy infrastructure but stopped short of naming any suspects in the Nord Stream incident. Russia branded the incident a “terrorist attack” and said it would summon a UN Security Council meeting over it.


https://www.rt.com/news/563677-nord-stream-damage-irreparable-germany/

[Vicus]

EU may soften anti-Russia sanctions – Politico
Restrictions may reportedly be eased on imports of Russian fertilizers, cement and other products

EU ambassadors may soften restrictions on some Russian products, Politico reported on Wednesday, citing senior officials and diplomats. The ambassadors are expected to discuss an eighth round of sanctions on Moscow at a meeting in Brussels later on Wednesday.

According to the report, they will be briefed by the European Commission on the new package, which will reportedly include a proposal of a price cap on Russian oil.

Under the deal, the EU will soften its sanctions on other products, effectively removing the shipping ban on Russian fertilizers, cement and other products, the unnamed officials told the media outlet. “It is do ut des,” one official was quoted as saying.

Tons of Russian fertilizer have been stuck in EU ports as a result of Western restrictions. Earlier this month, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres said that the stranded goods could be sent to developing nations via the UN’s anti-hunger agency. The offer to donate an estimated 300,000 tons of Russian fertilizer, unable to leave EU ports, was initially voiced by Russian President Vladimir Putin.


https://www.rt.com/business/563646-eu-may-soften-russia-sanctions/

[ExomatrixTV]

NBC Reporter Tells Truth About War – Gets Immediately Fired!:

A4LK4hUuvsI
During the first Gulf War journalist Jon Alpert evaded his government controllers and censors to smuggle evidence of civilian casualties out of Iraq to show the American public the truth about the war’s devastating consequences. His higher-ups at NBC News had different ideas, however, and fired him rather than show the shocking footage. And then CBS News fired a producer who tried to bring Alpert on. It’s an appalling story of self-censorship in favor of war propaganda in the US news media. Jimmy and Hard Lens Media’s Kit Cabello discuss the levers used by the corporate-military-government establishment to prevent the truth about war from escaping.

[Hym]

Missing within the context of citizens of the states who are now dealing with addressing the depths of corruption in the political system and the theft of their rights to be heard, thru their votes, are the easily referenced details at the core of the conflicts in the Ukraine. On the level of future changes in cleaning up the voting systems that allowed so much of the planned destruction of the lives of many in the states I see a success. However, in the same historical context, how many would believe that nine eleven would have been carried out, or the UN patriot act made into law, or the killing of so many Iraqis and combatants from this country if the conservatives had not stolen the 2000 election from the libs?

This lack of focus and exposure of the crimes of the West through their proxies in the Ukraine, nato and the e.u., is understandable when it takes so much effort to address and remove the immense and embedded corruption within so many systems in the states. However, this lack of barely exposed truths of the 8 years of murder, borne from the days of Bandera long ago, is a huge mistake on the part of the conservatives, now righteously taking on the restoration of freedoms in this country.

From these folks I hear and see that the reasoning for opposing any continued aid to the corrupt, kleptocratic, murderers in Ukraine and thus their proxies worldwide, especially in the states, almost entirely on the truth that most of this expense is borne at the continued great cost to the economy of the average citizen, as well as putting most of the country deeper into a depression. All true this, yet excluding the personal devastation carried out by their own government and those corporations that own it.

These omissions are a choice, and in the real lives of those oppressed end up being merely the noise of debate, not the signal of the real world, kinetic conflict now being called war. So very good at pinpointing the essence of a matter while choosing to dismiss the sounds of the missiles, the bullets, the mortars, the planted mines (65,000 so far) and explosive trinkets aimed at civilians is a choice that no real warrior accepts. Would Bannon, Pasobiec, et al, (who I see doing so well in one area) admit to dismissing all of the real Signal that warriors hear? Oh, so you don't go there when you talk about Ukraine. Why? Why not? Tell me. I'm listening.....

I know that the tears, the sounds of dying civilians, the weeping of those survivors are more influential to a real warrior than all of the noise this world has ever made. All of the talk. All of the writing. Excluding the details of those sounds, now, at this time, takes a lot of effort. A warrior would surely include that blood in his presentations. A warrior does not test what painful truths he shares.

We are all, at all times, responsible to the humanity, the protection of lives and the liberties and freedoms we all need to live lives of worth. Except for the honesty and heart of those who make Avalon live, it is at times like this when all I hear is the silence of lambs in warriors clothing.....

[norman]

There's only so much deer in the headlights empathy I can do, before I have to act, as best I know how, to take out the real enemy causing all this.

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-funeral-for-marine-damian-davies-110277432.html

[ExomatrixTV]

😱🔥OH NO!!! 😨 SABOTAGE! 😰:

NwnlwZInwPs

[ExomatrixTV]

Annexation Referendums: Ukrainian Regions Vote to Join Russia:

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[Bob_2011]

I beginning to think the US will be forced to strike first , if they can take out the Subs that would be the cue for the land attack , i had this dream last week, i was watching a bluish blast wave coming towards me from many miles away and i new what had happened, i turned my back on it and waited for the end.

[Bill Ryan]

I beginning to think the US will be forced to strike first

"forced"...??




And second, now it is also perfectly clear that the US government is a terrorist, desperate, declining and deranged one, they don't care anymore about anything. All those things they say about Russia, or any other country they find difficult, applies to them, it's pure projection in the end. A rabid cornered animal bites whoever gets near. The US is acting like a rabid, mindless cornered beast, hurting left and right anyone they can in a last attempt to protect themselvesThis barely needs to be said, but it seems clear to me that there really is something to be concerned about regarding the recent terrorist, desperate, declining and deranged claims by Jake Sullivan and almost the entire US media that somehow Putin is threatening to use nukes (and in Ukraine, no less!!) — when it's totally crystal clear from the official Kremlin website (https://en.kremlin.ru) that he said no such thing. Not even close.

It has to be noted that this might possibly be laying the grounds for a false flag event, or even some kind of preemptive attack by the US. It all feels very dangerius, the cornered animal in its last throes, maybe taking as much or as many with it as it can.

(For historical reference, consider the 100% false, media-driven, WMD-in-Iraq narrative that was used as a justification for the Iraq war and the annihilation of hundreds of thousands of people. All this has been done before, and it worked.)

[Chester]

I beginning to think the US will be forced to strike first

"forced"...??




And second, now it is also perfectly clear that the US government is a terrorist, desperate, declining and deranged one, they don't care anymore about anything. All those things they say about Russia, or any other country they find difficult, applies to them, it's pure projection in the end. A rabid cornered animal bites whoever gets near. The US is acting like a rabid, mindless cornered beast, hurting left and right anyone they can in a last attempt to protect themselvesThis barely needs to be said, but it seems clear to me that there really is something to be concerned about regarding the recent terrorist, desperate, declining and deranged claims by Jake Sullivan and almost the entire US media that somehow Putin is threatening to use nukes (and in Ukraine, no less!!) — when it's totally crystal clear from the official Kremlin website (https://en.kremlin.ru) that he said no such thing. Not even close.

It has to be noted that this might possibly be laying the grounds for a false flag event, or even some kind of preemptive attack by the US. It all feels very dangerius, the cornered animal in its last throes, maybe taking as much or as many with it as it can.

(For historical reference, consider the 100% false, media-driven, WMD-in-Iraq narrative that was used as a justification for the Iraq war and the annihilation of hundreds of thousands of people. All this has been done before, and it worked.)

Check the link, Bill, for "the official Kremlin website"

I just use - en.kremlin.ru/ or http://en.kremlin.ru (http://en.kremlin.ru/)






From Bill:
Many thanks: bad link in my post now fixed. (and in the quote also)
:thumbsup:

[Violet3]

I'm not sure the behaviour is deranged. What is worse, I think it is calculated, conscious, rewarded, and in line with a globalist agenda that keeps the public as confused and frightened as possible while progressing its goals. The Iraq example is apt, and there are others- not mad but coldly deliberate.

[Bill Ryan]

I'm not sure the behaviour is deranged. What is worse, I think it is calculated, conscious, rewarded, and in line with a globalist agenda that keeps the public as confused and frightened as possible while progressing its goals. The Iraq example is apt, and there are others- not mad but coldly deliberate.Yes. Paranoid might be a good word, as well.

Alexander Mercouris has just posted an excellent analysis of the Nord Stream sabotage, very much as a lawyer would. He draws the distinction between evidence (of which there is little), and inference, which is not to hard to make.

He observes the following:


The sabotage had to be the work of a major power. Military-style undersea sabotage operations, involving sophisticated training, experience and technology, could only be undertaken by a few nations.
He names Russia, Ukraine, Poland, the UK, and the US. (And he discounts France and Germany itself.)
He goes through all the possible claimed reasons why Russia could possibly have done such a thing and discounts them all.
Ukraine has to be a suspect, but if they were involved, simply for logistical and military reasons they could only have played a minor role.
Poland has a history of being very hostile to the Nord Stream projects, but after discussing this Mercouris discounts the Poles as well.
The UK has a history and tradition of these kinds of James Bond operations, and has the means to carry them out effectively. Less well known than the SAS is the SBS, the Special Boat Service (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Boat_Service), an elite unit equivalent to the US Navy Seals, and this kind of sabotage is exactly what they are trained and well-equipped to do. But Mercouris notes that the political risk to the UK, which is trying to be the best possible ally to Germany, would be enormous should it ever leak out that they were involved.
So... that leaves the US. Mercouris states that a number of years ago he could not possibly have believed such a thing (though he may not know about, or be forgetting about, 9/11), but goes into some depth regarding the mindset of the current US administration, which he states (correctly!) is both paranoid and extremely dangerous.

Start in at 5:45 and continue to 45:34. As many reading my posts will know, I greatly appreciate Mercouris' logic and very meticulous care in all his assertions and statements, but for those with 40 minutes to spare this is as thorough an analysis as I've yet heard.

His closing words:
We're coming very dangerously close to a Cuban Missile Crisis moment... except of course that there is no JFK in the White House.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ju2Ggsvjbg

[Michel Leclerc]

Missing within the context of citizens of the states who are now dealing with addressing the depths of corruption in the political system and the theft of their rights to be heard, thru their votes, are the easily referenced details at the core of the conflicts in the Ukraine. On the level of future changes in cleaning up the voting systems that allowed so much of the planned destruction of the lives of many in the states I see a success. However, in the same historical context, how many would believe that nine eleven would have been carried out, or the UN patriot act made into law, or the killing of so many Iraqis and combatants from this country if the conservatives had not stolen the 2000 election from the libs?

This lack of focus and exposure of the crimes of the West through their proxies in the Ukraine, nato and the e.u., is understandable when it takes so much effort to address and remove the immense and embedded corruption within so many systems in the states. However, this lack of barely exposed truths of the 8 years of murder, borne from the days of Bandera long ago, is a huge mistake on the part of the conservatives, now righteously taking on the restoration of freedoms in this country.

From these folks I hear and see that the reasoning for opposing any continued aid to the corrupt, kleptocratic, murderers in Ukraine and thus their proxies worldwide, especially in the states, almost entirely on the truth that most of this expense is borne at the continued great cost to the economy of the average citizen, as well as putting most of the country deeper into a depression. All true this, yet excluding the personal devastation carried out by their own government and those corporations that own it.

These omissions are a choice, and in the real lives of those oppressed end up being merely the noise of debate, not the signal of the real world, kinetic conflict now being called war. So very good at pinpointing the essence of a matter while choosing to dismiss the sounds of the missiles, the bullets, the mortars, the planted mines (65,000 so far) and explosive trinkets aimed at civilians is a choice that no real warrior accepts. Would Bannon, Pasobiec, et al, (who I see doing so well in one area) admit to dismissing all of the real Signal that warriors hear? Oh, so you don't go there when you talk about Ukraine. Why? Why not? Tell me. I'm listening.....

I know that the tears, the sounds of dying civilians, the weeping of those survivors are more influential to a real warrior than all of the noise this world has ever made. All of the talk. All of the writing. Excluding the details of those sounds, now, at this time, takes a lot of effort. A warrior would surely include that blood in his presentations. A warrior does not test what painful truths he shares.

We are all, at all times, responsible to the humanity, the protection of lives and the liberties and freedoms we all need to live lives of worth. Except for the honesty and heart of those who make Avalon live, it is at times like this when all I hear is the silence of lambs in warriors clothing.....


Thank you Hym. Yours is a great post.

The selectiveness you refer to is correlated to a kind of priding oneself on one’s smartitude, which almost all of these commentators share with the war-loving mainstream media’s pundits. Especially revulsive to me is the gleeful laughter at Biden’s and other Western leaders’ so-called "stupidity” – because those commentators consider themselves smarter than they are, similar to the commentators who are "anti-Putin", who think they are infinitely smarter than the Russian President.

People who take decisions like the Western leaders do are not "stupid", they are intelligent but criminal and/or pychopathically evil. Laughter is really not what their actions evoke in me.

Mind you, in Europe it is everywhere the same immaturity.

They are themselves psychopathic – and hence part of the problem.

[Michel Leclerc]

His closing words:[INDENT][I]We're coming very dangerously close to a Cuban Missile Crisis moment... except of course that there is no JFK in the White House.



That is a strange lapsus.

Obviously, there is no JFK in the White House: there is one in the Kremlin. Conversely and unfortunately, there is no Khrushchev in the White House.

[Johnnycomelately]

I learned a new word: lapsus. I don’t know enough, or think well enough, to judge it’s suitability here, but thank you.

From the website the-philosophy.com:


Freudian definition of Lapsus

Lapsus is a verbal or written or memory error that appears as an unconscious manifestation.

Freud coined this term and listed possible forms of lapsus in his book Psychopathology of Daily Life.

According to Freudian philosophy, unacceptable thoughts or beliefs are repressed by conscience and slip-ups are the release of these latent contents. Thus, if dreams are the manifestation of unconscious contents in the sleeping patient, the slip is its counterpart in the awake patient.
The term is used today in a humorous manner when a person makes a verbal error, thus pointing to a hidden emotion in the speaker.





His closing words:[INDENT][I]We're coming very dangerously close to a Cuban Missile Crisis moment... except of course that there is no JFK in the White House.



That is a strange lapsus.

Obviously, there is no JFK in the White House: there is one in the Kremlin. Conversely and unfortunately, there is no Khrushchev in the White House.

[Kryztian]

Alexander Mercouris has just posted an excellent analysis of the Nord Stream sabotage, very much as a lawyer would. He draws the distinction between evidence (of which there is little), and inference, which is not to hard to make.

...

His closing words:
We're coming very dangerously close to a Cuban Missile Crisis moment... except of course that there is no JFK in the White House.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ju2Ggsvjbg

Thoughtful and interesting analysis, BUT, I think his thinking is a bit limited here. If Mercouris had been a 9/11 truther for the last decade of his life, he might have taken this idea of who performed this very evil sabotage a little further. He makes the assumption that this was performed by a nation state. So, if the U.S. was behind it, then this was planned by the Joint Chiefs of Staff at a meeting with Joe Biden, and Biden's approval. As we know from the Elizabeth Nelson interview (https://youtu.be/Kmptw9kX-j8), very high level generals did not know what was really happening on 9/11.

The sabotage may have been done with weapons of a nation state that may have been placed on the pipeline by a submarine that was part of a national navy, but the planning and authorization may have been done by a supranational organization. Think on the level of the "Anglo Saxon Mission (https://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html)." Perhaps even Joe Biden and Victoria Nuland may have been duped into making the statements they made (about how the Nord Stream will not work if Russia invades Ukraine) , just to incriminate themselves, just to set up another agenda to push us into WW III.

It is interesting to see how this situation, with the sabotage, is forcing people like Mercouris and Gonzalo Lira to go further down the rabbit hole to explain what is going on here.

[s7e6e]

A world in turmoil is far easier to control and further helps the population culling agenda. That is all there is to it.

If the war breaks out, there's a chance there are still factions out there not willing to go along with the globalist agenda. If it doesn't, this whole charade will be just another mind trick meant to keep us into bondage.

Either way, the master plan moves forward.

[ExomatrixTV]

Being On The Verge Of Nuclear War Is 100% United States Government's Fault!:

CLUsEoFyEK4

[Bill Ryan]

His closing words: We're coming very dangerously close to a Cuban Missile Crisis moment... except of course that there is no JFK in the White House.


Obviously, there is no JFK in the White House: there is one in the Kremlin. Conversely and unfortunately, there is no Khrushchev in the White House.That's a wonderful post! :)

[Hym]

His closing words: We're coming very dangerously close to a Cuban Missile Crisis moment... except of course that there is no JFK in the White House.


Obviously, there is no JFK in the White House: there is one in the Kremlin. Conversely and unfortunately, there is no Khrushchev in the White House.That's a wonderful post! :)

Yes! It is good fortune, inspiring and a blessing to be able to read the insights shared here. Thank You, Michel, Bill, and so many others!

[Spiral]

Apologies if this has already been posted.

TXDPR/2317

[Rizotto]

I agree with several of the above comments that this latest sabotage is part and parcel of the cabal’s depopulation plans. Of course they’ll blame Russia for destroying their own pipeline, knowing very well that this is completely illogical, but they’ll keep insisting on it and most of their EU counterparts will soon sing the same song. The fact that ordinary people don’t believe any of this nonsense is irrelevant to the cabal, because they control governments, weaponry and the media, so they have the means to make and enforce rules and impose their narrative.

There’s a big question though, how will they be able to control intense rebellions from the European people who will face extreme hardships this winter following this sabotage? So far, the cabal’s mode of operation has been gradual increase of chaos, not outright mass shootings of civilians. But this may change as we near the end game. It really looks like they want most of us dead.

The other question is about Poland’s role in all this. Why is Poland so hostile to Russia and Germany? The Soviet regime is long gone and WW2 ended long ago. Why is Poland blocking the Yamal pipeline to Germany? What do the ordinary Polish citizens think of all this?

Here’s a map of Russian pipelines to Europe. Of course the Ukraine route isn’t feasible right now. There doesn’t seem to be good alternatives now that Nordstream has been destroyed.
https://www.planete-energies.com/en/medias/infographics/gas-pipelines-between-europe-russia-and-caucasia

[Rizotto]

"New energy protest roils EU country
Tens of thousands accused Prague of serving Brussels and Washington instead of Czechia"

https://www.rt.com/news/563683-czech-protest-energy-sanctions/

[Tintin]

Maria Zakharova live streaming now here, as she's discussing (obviously) the pipeline sabotage:

https://www.ruptly.tv/en/events/202209290800-LIVE12009-Russian-MFA-spokesperson-Zakharova-holds-weekly-briefing

A summary will appear on the MFA website later on, as usual.

[wegge]

I agree with several of the above comments that this latest sabotage is part and parcel of the cabal’s depopulation plans. Of course they’ll blame Russia for destroying their own pipeline, knowing very well that this is completely illogical, but they’ll keep insisting on it and most of their EU counterparts will soon sing the same song. The fact that ordinary people don’t believe any of this nonsense is irrelevant to the cabal, because they control governments, weaponry and the media, so they have the means to make and enforce rules and impose their narrative.

There’s a big question though, how will they be able to control intense rebellions from the European people who will face extreme hardships this winter following this sabotage? So far, the cabal’s mode of operation has been gradual increase of chaos, not outright mass shootings of civilians. But this may change as we near the end game. It really looks like they want most of us dead.

The other question is about Poland’s role in all this. Why is Poland so hostile to Russia and Germany? The Soviet regime is long gone and WW2 ended long ago. Why is Poland blocking the Yamal pipeline to Germany? What do the ordinary Polish citizens think of all this?

Here’s a map of Russian pipelines to Europe. Of course the Ukraine route isn’t feasible right now. There doesn’t seem to be good alternatives now that Nordstream has been destroyed.
https://www.planete-energies.com/en/medias/infographics/gas-pipelines-between-europe-russia-and-caucasia

I've looked back over articles throughout recent years about North Stream 2 (googling "American quotes North Stream 2 2017 (or whichever year), besides americans being critical of it critical experts from Poland were quoted all the time.

[Gwin Ru]

...

... sabotage... who is NOT named?

Well, anyone remembers anything about a certain USS Liberty?

On the other hand, when undetected Chinese subs are able to launch missiles off the coast of California...

Related:


Zelensky's parents have bought $8 million property in Israel and obtained Israeli citizenship (https://inf.news/en/world/1bbeaca8a596efeb0bcf316976384625.html)

[Mike Gorman]

Adrian Boke obviously upset the criminals in their staging of the Bucha event, yet another travesty which deeply characterises the illegitimate forces installed in Ukraine, working for NATO and U.S deep state players-what a brave man, my heart goes out to him. Putin is such a strong man, he is fighting the battle of our age, confronting the established order of shameless barbarians. Hold on, this has a long way to go.

[Bob_2011]

Hi Bill,

Yes Forced in a way to stop many key parts of Europe from an all out Nuclear attack from Russia , i see no point in Russia just Nuking Ukraine , as they must expect the US to respond in kind, if the US makes it clear that they will respond in kind then we may avoid this end game of mutually destroyed destruction , now if there is ANY doubt about how the US would respond then Russia may take the risk , i would think the OK to launch a Nuke attack would get out within minutes , that then is the point where the US will be forced to act first to save millions of lives , but if they cant take out the subs which can sit just off shore of their own land then its going to be very messy, i remember as a school kid getting involved in a playground fight , there we stood facing each other with clenched fists raised with the baying crowed of kids shouting hit him , the next thing i new i was on the floor with a bloody nose, i would have won if i hit him first lol .So be second and you may not get up again. So the US may indeed be Forced to act first.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill,

Yes Forced in a way to stop many key parts of Europe from an all out Nuclear attack from Russia , i see no point in Russia just Nuking Ukraine , as they must expect the US to respond in kind, if the US makes it clear that they will respond in kind then we may avoid this end game of mutually destroyed destruction , now if there is ANY doubt about how the US would respond then Russia may take the risk , i would think the OK to launch a Nuke attack would get out within minutes , that then is the point where the US will be forced to act first to save millions of lives , but if they cant take out the subs which can sit just off shore of their own land then its going to be very messy, i remember as a school kid getting involved in a playground fight , there we stood facing each other with clenched fists raised with the baying crowed of kids shouting hit him , the next thing i new i was on the floor with a bloody nose, i would have won if i hit him first lol .So be second and you may not get up again. So the US may indeed be Forced to act first.Russia won't use nukes of any kind unless the integrity of their country is seriously threatened.

[Bob_2011]

Hi Bill,

Yes Forced in a way to stop many key parts of Europe from an all out Nuclear attack from Russia , i see no point in Russia just Nuking Ukraine , as they must expect the US to respond in kind, if the US makes it clear that they will respond in kind then we may avoid this end game of mutually destroyed destruction , now if there is ANY doubt about how the US would respond then Russia may take the risk , i would think the OK to launch a Nuke attack would get out within minutes , that then is the point where the US will be forced to act first to save millions of lives , but if they cant take out the subs which can sit just off shore of their own land then its going to be very messy, i remember as a school kid getting involved in a playground fight , there we stood facing each other with clenched fists raised with the baying crowed of kids shouting hit him , the next thing i new i was on the floor with a bloody nose, i would have won if i hit him first lol .So be second and you may not get up again. So the US may indeed be Forced to act first.Russia won't use nukes of any kind unless the integrity of their country is seriously threatened.

Maybe, but then will this new annexed state of affairs be classed as "their" country , im pretty sure Ukraine will threaten that status quo , I just hope Putin is Bluffing

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill,

Yes Forced in a way to stop many key parts of Europe from an all out Nuclear attack from Russia , i see no point in Russia just Nuking Ukraine , as they must expect the US to respond in kind, if the US makes it clear that they will respond in kind then we may avoid this end game of mutually destroyed destruction , now if there is ANY doubt about how the US would respond then Russia may take the risk , i would think the OK to launch a Nuke attack would get out within minutes , that then is the point where the US will be forced to act first to save millions of lives , but if they cant take out the subs which can sit just off shore of their own land then its going to be very messy, i remember as a school kid getting involved in a playground fight , there we stood facing each other with clenched fists raised with the baying crowed of kids shouting hit him , the next thing i new i was on the floor with a bloody nose, i would have won if i hit him first lol .So be second and you may not get up again. So the US may indeed be Forced to act first.Russia won't use nukes of any kind unless the integrity of their country is seriously threatened.

Maybe, but then will this new annexed state of affairs be classed as "their" country , im pretty sure Ukraine will threaten that status quo , I just hope Putin is Bluffing(If I may say!) It seems you may not 100% understand the entire complex situation.

Putin is not bluffing. He will absolutely retaliate with nukes if NATO deploys them first. That's what he promised to do.

You may have been reading or hearing the very wild western media distortions, not what Putin actually said on public record. There's a full transcript earlier on this thread.

Russia can easily deal with any Ukrainian incursions into Donbass, Kherson or Zaporizhia. That's how come they mobilized 300,000 reservists, to strengthen their ability to defend their borders and take the pressure off the [sometimes] slightly less professional Donbass militia, who, very creditably indeed, have been doing most of the ground infantry fighting.

As long as NATO stays out of Ukraine (formally, publicly and visibly) there's no risk of escalation. But it's still possible — especially after the Nord Stream sabotage — that NATO may not stay out of Ukraine, in which all bets are off and the global situation will become more dangerous than at any other point in our lifetimes.

In summary:

It won't be Putin who escalates anything at all. He's smarter and wiser than that. Any major escalation would come from the US and/or NATO. And if that happens, Putin will respond.

[Mashika]

I didn't know Russia had such futuristic advanced tech, good to know! Imagine being able to pass between the US navy in "invisible mode" and do all that stuff unnoticed, by "the most advance army of the world". Then i suppose we should go land on Washington tomorrow?
DonbassDevushka/27694

Welp...
DonbassDevushka/27696

[Mashika]

Russia can easily deal with any Ukrainian incursions into Donbass, Kherson or Zaporizhia. That's how come they mobilized 300,000 reservists, to strengthen their ability to defend their borders and take the pressure off the [sometimes] slightly less professional Donbass militia, who, very creditably indeed, have been doing most of the ground infantry fighting.


This is something that because of the disinformation and constant distortion of reality that the west media has been doing the past months, most people don't get

They assume and don't get that this entire operation has been since almost 9 years ago, a war between Ukraine and Donbass militias, and that Russia is doing a supporting role but is not the one at the front in most cases, and that Ukraine is having a hard time dealing with the Donbass militias, and not the real Russian army.

There is also the case that most of the real Russian army is still in Russia, just sitting there, and only a small part of it was sent to support Donbass.

[ExomatrixTV]

No, Russia Didn’t Blow Up Their Own Pipeline:

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[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill,

Yes Forced in a way to stop many key parts of Europe from an all out Nuclear attack from Russia , i see no point in Russia just Nuking Ukraine , as they must expect the US to respond in kind, if the US makes it clear that they will respond in kind then we may avoid this end game of mutually destroyed destruction , now if there is ANY doubt about how the US would respond then Russia may take the risk , i would think the OK to launch a Nuke attack would get out within minutes , that then is the point where the US will be forced to act first to save millions of lives , but if they cant take out the subs which can sit just off shore of their own land then its going to be very messy, i remember as a school kid getting involved in a playground fight , there we stood facing each other with clenched fists raised with the baying crowed of kids shouting hit him , the next thing i new i was on the floor with a bloody nose, i would have won if i hit him first lol .So be second and you may not get up again. So the US may indeed be Forced to act first.Russia won't use nukes of any kind unless the integrity of their country is seriously threatened.

Maybe, but then will this new annexed state of affairs be classed as "their" country , im pretty sure Ukraine will threaten that status quo , I just hope Putin is Bluffing(If I may say!) It seems you may not 100% understand the entire complex situation.

Putin is not bluffing. He will absolutely retaliate with nukes if NATO deploys them first. That's what he promised to do.

You may have been reading or hearing the very wild western media distortions, not what Putin actually said on public record. There's a full transcript earlier on this thread.

Russia can easily deal with any Ukrainian incursions into Donbass, Kherson or Zaporizhia. That's how come they mobilized 300,000 reservists, to strengthen their ability to defend their borders and take the pressure off the [sometimes] slightly less professional Donbass militia, who, very creditably indeed, have been doing most of the ground infantry fighting.

As long as NATO stays out of Ukraine (formally, publicly and visibly) there's no risk of escalation. But it's still possible — especially after the Nord Stream sabotage — that NATO may not stay out of Ukraine, in which all bets are off and the global situation will become more dangerous than at any other point in our lifetimes.

In summary:

It won't be Putin who escalates anything at all. He's smarter and wiser than that. Any major escalation would come from the US and/or NATO. And if that happens, Putin will respond.~~~

More here, to totally 100% clarify Russia's position on nukes. This is an article by Anatoly Antonov, the Russian ambassador to the US, most certainly stating the Kremlin's position clearly.


https://nationalinterest.org/feature/cuban-missile-crisis-20-over-ukraine-205077

Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0 Over Ukraine?

It is safe to assume that any use of nuclear weapons could quickly lead to an escalation of a local or regional conflict into a global one.

As Henry Kissinger wrote (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html) in 2014, “The demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”

I have commenced my work on this article for two reasons. Firstly, this October will mark sixty years since the Cuban Missile Crisis when the USSR and the United States were on the verge of a nuclear conflict. This is an occasion to look closer at the foreign policy lessons that the two great powers have learned from that dramatic time.

I believe that any American will see eye-to-eye with me that we must not allow the explosive situation of the 1960s to repeat. It is important that not only Russia and the United States, but also other nuclear states, confirmed in a common statement that a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought.

Secondly, we are witnessing a surge of concern from the international community and U.S. experts about the possibility of a nuclear conflict (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/un-chief-world-must-eliminate-nuclear-weapons-205056) between Moscow and Washington. This issue has become even more acute in recent days when senior officials of the U.S. administration began sending us direct signals warning against the use of nuclear weapons in the Russian special military operation in Ukraine.

Moreover, threats against us have started to be heard from the official establishment.

Princeton University has even made predictions (https://www.newsweek.com/nuclear-war-simulator-shows-what-war-russia-would-look-like-1743000) that millions of Americans and Russians would perish in the exchange of nuclear strikes (https://nationalinterest.org/feature/can-world-defuse-threat-nuclear-war-204791).

Sometimes it feels like we are returning to the years of McCarthyism in this issue. One hardly can forget former U.S. secretary of defense James Forrestal who jumped out of the window yelling “the Russians are coming.”

The U.S. media is abounding in publications by pseudo-experts who are ignorant of history and misinterpret the current state of affairs. They erroneously compare today’s situation with the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The statements by certain politicians and the media that U.S.-Russian relations are living through an unprecedented crisis may well be accepted. Let me remind you that just a couple of years ago we talked about a difficult stage in the bilateral dialogue. However, no one could have even imagined that it would come to such a perilous point.

Everything created over many years of hard work, including political, economic, cultural, scientific, and educational ties, has been written off to the dustbin of history.

We see a deplorable, deserted picture in arms control. The ABM and INF treaties (https://nationalinterest.org/feature/moratorium-first-step-stabilizing-%E2%80%9Cpost-inf-treaty-world%E2%80%9D-90891) have sunk into oblivion. The Open Skies Treaty (https://nationalinterest.org/feature/america%E2%80%99s-withdrawal-open-skies-treaty-undermines-euro-atlantic-security-160611) has virtually ceased to exist.

The New START Treaty is approaching the end of its duration and, as we have repeatedly said, is not fully implemented by the American side. The NPT is experiencing serious shocks. No one can foretell what will happen next.

I have to remind readers that all of this is a result of U.S. policy. Let me elaborate on my point. Washington withdrew from the treaties in order to gain security advantages, especially in confronting Russia. It is in a constant search for opportunities to achieve global military dominance.

Over previous decades, the NATO military machine has approached Russia’s borders in several “waves”—where a powerful striking fist was raised over my Motherland. How should we have reacted? We warned our colleagues that such steps were counterproductive, increased the risk of an arms race, and we could not ignore the aggravating threats along the perimeter of the Russian boundaries, especially our western boundaries.

I remember long-hour gatherings at NATO headquarters where I had to participate repeatedly in discussions on the harmfulness of global missile defense, the importance of respecting international commitments on strategic stability, and the danger of deploying shorter- and intermediate-range missiles in Europe. Russian exhortations turned out to be in vain.

The last straw that broke the camel’s back was NATO’s attempt to launch the military-technical exploitation of Ukraine and cultivate in Kiev a regime desiring to wage a bloody war against Russia.

Today our country is accused of all sins. They claim that we have unleashed an armed conflict in Europe. I have to wonder: what did the United States do to ensure the implementation of the Minsk agreements? Why did Washington keep silent for eight years and not pull Kiev up when Ukrainians and Russians were killed in Donbas?!

How could it ignore the terrible tragedy in Odessa when several dozen people were burned alive?! Where were the international humanitarian institutions?! Why did the administration prioritizing human rights allow such crimes?! We have repeatedly asked American politicians these questions. Nothing but beautiful slogans were the answer. Ukraine has continued to be pitted against Russia.

Today it is obvious that the United States is directly involved in the military actions of the Kiev regime. Washington is openly building up the supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine and provides it with intelligence. They jointly plan military operations against the Russian Armed Forces. Ukrainians are being trained to use NATO military hardware in a fight.

It feels like Russia is being tested to see how long it will remain patient and refrain from responding to blatantly adversarial actions and attacks. In fact, Washington is pushing the situation towards a direct confrontation of the major nuclear powers fraught with unpredictable consequences.

U.S. officials continue to escalate the situation, intimidating the American and international public with sham Russian “nuclear threats.” Such rhetoric twists the statements of the Russian leadership.

I would like to stress that there has been no change in the conditions when our country would use nuclear weapons. In this regard, we continue to strictly adhere to the 2014 Military Doctrine and 2020 Basic Principles of State Policy on Nuclear Deterrence. Moscow has never mentioned an expansive interpretation of these documents which can be found in the public domain.

We are not threatening anyone. But we confirm that, as President Vladimir Putin said on September 21, Russia is ready to defend its sovereignty, territorial integrity, and our people with all weapon systems we have. What is so aggressive about this statement? What is unacceptable? Would the United States not do the same if faced with an existential threat?

I would like to add that certain American politicians are under a delusion if they think that our readiness to defend our territory does not apply to Crimea or to territories that may become part of Russia on the basis of a free expression of popular will.

I would like to warn American military planners about the fallacy of their assumptions that a limited nuclear conflict is possible. They apparently hope that the United States would be able to take cover behind the ocean if such a conflict happens in Europe with British and French nuclear weapons. I would stress that this is an extremely dangerous “experiment.” It is safe to assume that any use of nuclear weapons could quickly lead to an escalation of a local or regional conflict into a global one.

I want to believe that, despite all the difficulties, we and the Americans have not yet approached a dangerous threshold of falling into the abyss of nuclear conflict. It is important to stop threatening us.

Today, it is difficult to predict how far Washington is ready to go in exacerbating relations with Russia. Will the U.S. ruling circles be able to give up their plans aimed at wearing out our country with the prospect of its dismemberment?

The recent Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit and the high-level week of the 77th UN General Assembly session have proved that a considerable part of the planet is not satisfied with the world order that was created after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

We are witnessing the majority of the global community trying to find ways to establish an equitable system of international relations which would have neither first- nor second-tier states. We firmly support such a world order based on international law, the UN Charter, and the principle of the indivisibility of security.

[Bill Ryan]

This is only a minute in duration, Col Doug Macgregor talking to Judge Napolitano about who sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines. It takes him just that long to conclude it had to be the US.

(Note: I'd love to hear the full interview, as this is clearly just one small extract. But I don't yet have a link for the rest.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwwZLXSh0BE

Edit to add:

Gwin Ru posted the full 22-minute interview in post #5381 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1520525&viewfull=1#post1520525) at the top of the next page. Col. Macgregor goes into much more thought and detail, and my one-sentence summary above that he concludes in a minute flat that it had to be the US wasn't exactly correct. There are many aspects to consider that he very correctly points out. The one-minute summary was just the way Napolitano (or his team) edited it. :)

[Michel Leclerc]

Russia’s policy is clear. Nuclear weapons, even tactical ones, are not necessary to push back the offensive “defensive” systems Nato has established all over Europe. They can use quite sophisticated non-nuclear weapons to achieve that.

There could suddenly appear leaks in the Norway-Poland pipeline for instance, which the Poles could then blame on the Norwegians.

[Ravenlocke]

https://www.rt.com/russia/563762-putin-zaporozhye-kherson-independence/

Putin recognizes independence of Zaporozhye and Kherson


Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday signed two decrees recognizing the former Ukrainian regions, Kherson and Zaporozhye, as independent sovereign states. The decrees come into force immediately.

“Recognize the state sovereignty and independence” of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions “effective from the day of signing,” say the two decrees dated and signed September 29. In the documents, the head of state refers to the universally recognized principles and norms of international law, the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, enshrined in the UN Charter.

The move comes on the eve of the official ceremony where the Russian president is expected to sign the treaties on incorporating Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, as well as the two Donbass republics, into Russia.

Referendums on joining Russia were held in Zaporozhye and Kherson, as well as in the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and Lugansk People's Republic (LPR), between September 23 and 27.

In the Kherson region, 87.05% voted in favor of declaring independence and joining the Russian Federation. Zaporozhye Region also supported the idea of splitting from Ukraine and joining Russia, with 93,23% of voters backing it. In the DPR, 99.23% of those who voted were in favor, while LPR showed a slightly lower figure of 98.42%.

Kremlin reveals next step for former Ukrainian regions READ MORE: Kremlin reveals next step for former Ukrainian regions
After Putin signs the treaties on the accession of new regions into Russia, the documents will be submitted to Russia’s Constitutional Court. After that, the State Duma – the lower house of the Russian parliament – will have to ratify the agreements, which will then be sent to the Federal Council, its upper house, for the same procedure.

The Donbass republics as well as Kherson and Zaporozhye may become a part of Russia no sooner than the lawmakers pass a new legislation on their incorporation, and the correspoding law is signed by Putin.

In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states, accusing Kiev of failing to implement the Minsk agreements, which were supposed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within Ukraine. Brokered by Germany and France, the protocols were first signed in 2014.

Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing the need to protect Donbass. It also demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked.

During the conflict, Russian forces seized the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. Since then, the local authorities repeatedly mulled the idea of joining Russia, before eventually holding the referendums in September.

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https://www.rt.com/news/563714-erdogan-referendums-donbass-ukraine/

Erdogan speaks about referendums on joining Russia

Recent referendums in the Donbass republics and two Ukrainian regions on joining Russia are of great concern, and it would be better to “solve this problem diplomatically,” Türkiye’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told local media on Wednesday.

In an interview with CNN Türk on Wednesday, Erdogan sounded the alarm over the public vote, adding that dialogue would be a preferable option in tackling this issue.

“The decision to hold referendums in some occupied regions of Ukraine is quite worrying... There may be an annexation here,” he said, adding that “if Putin, whom I know, has put something in his head, he will do it.”

Erdogan said that Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky had asked for Türkiye’s diplomatic support on the issue of the referendums. “[He] wants us to convince Putin. I intend to discuss these issues in detail with Putin tomorrow [on Thursday],” he said.

Putin considering talks with Kiev – Turkish FM
Putin considering talks with Kiev – Turkish FM
He also noted that another major issue on the agenda would be the UN- Türkiye-brokered deal which unblocked Ukrainian grain exports via the Black Sea. According to Erdogan, 80% of grain shipments from Ukrainian ports “unfortunately went to rich countries.”

“This has been a serious concern for Putin. We hope that we will be able to send it to poor countries and achieve the result,” he added.

However, on Wednesday, Kremlin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov noted that the Russian leader has no talks scheduled with Erdogan.

During the interview, Türkiye's president also stressed that a possible nuclear war would be "catastrophic." "One should not even think about this, let alone talk about it. Solving this issue through diplomacy would be the most appropriate step," he said.

This was an apparent reference to the warning the Russian leader issued to the West last week, saying that those who use nuclear blackmail against Moscow “should know that the wind can turn around.”

Last week, Erdogan claimed that Ukraine and Russia may reach a peace settlement only if Moscow returns to Kiev all the lands that it has captured since the beginning of the military operation in late February.

During the referendums that were held between September 23 and 27, the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics along with Kherson Region and part of Zaporozhye Region overwhelmingly voted to join Russia.

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https://www.rt.com/news/563754-us-russia-nuclear-reduction-treaty/

Russia and US seeking to revive key nuclear deal – Moscow

Moscow and Washington are “engaged in a dialogue” with a view to reviving the New START agreement, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told a briefing on Thursday. New START is a key nuclear arms reduction treaty that puts a cap on the number of deployed nuclear warheads, as well as their delivery vehicles.

The two powers are considering the resumption of mutual inspections of deployed nuclear arsenals in particular, which were suspended back in 2020 because of the Covid-19 pandemic.

“The topic of resuming them is being considered,” Zakharova told journalists, adding that the sides are now discussing ways that would allow them to “return to the full implementation of the treaty in this regard.”

Russia and the US might also hold an in-person meeting of the bilateral advisory commission, the spokeswoman said, adding that such possibilities are “being studied.” The commission is currently holding a remote session as its members discuss “organizational and technical issues that need to be addressed,” she added.

Russia tells US to ‘back off’ its ‘aggressive’ course
Russia tells US to ‘back off’ its ‘aggressive’ course
According to Zakharova, “anti-Russian” actions by the US and its allies have made even some “routine” procedures envisioned by the treaty difficult. The spokeswoman denounced Washington’s stance on some issues as “unconstructive” and said that Moscow would seek to “resolve all the issues of concern” on an equal footing and in line with Russian national interests.

The 2010 New START treaty remains virtually the only active arms-control deal between the two nuclear powers since America’s unilateral withdrawal from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty in 2019.

The deal was due to expire in early 2021 and was almost on the brink of collapse when Russian President Vladimir Putin and the US President Joe Biden agreed to extend it for five years in January 2021. The agreement was salvaged at the last minute after previous talks stalled between Moscow and Washington under Biden’s predecessor, Donald Trump.

The deal limits the number of nuclear warheads that the US and Russia can possess to 1,550 each. It also says that each side must have no more than 700 deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and nuclear bombers. The total number of strategic nuclear delivery vehicles must not exceed 800.

The news comes as relations between Moscow and Washington have sunk to historic lows amid Russia’s ongoing military action in Ukraine, which has seen the US support Kiev with military and financial aid.

[Gwin Ru]

(Note: I'd love to hear the full interview, as this is clearly just one small extract. But I don't yet have a link for the rest.)
Col. Doug Macgregor - Ukraine Russia War Latest (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSfz4N9GMM) 22:28

Streamed live 4 hours ago

https://yt3.ggpht.com/7sG2dx9yKbBfmA25TtYyQLcYM7wCAtZ2vmPyyUZQbCAhl2PV3DiC1y0StWN5sXnQCbkXdFComQ=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDkEYb-TXJVWLvOokshtlsw) Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDkEYb-TXJVWLvOokshtlsw)

6ZSfz4N9GMM

[norman]

Joseph P. Farrell - NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM SEPT 29 2022 (https://podbay.fm/p/news-and-views-from-the-nefarium/e/1664485220)

SHOW NOTES
EG shared this article, and finally, someone wrote something that I largely agree with regarding the sabotage of the Nordstream 2 pipeline:


HOW TO STAGE A SABOTAGE: L'Affair Farewell, Fake History, Fake Science By Deep State Design (https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/how-to-stage-a-sabotage-laffair-farewell)


https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85996d2b-cba3-4480-bf9d-c48e21f18c18_771x807.png

[TargeT]

Joseph P. Farrell - NEWS AND VIEWS FROM THE NEFARIUM SEPT 29 2022 (https://podbay.fm/p/news-and-views-from-the-nefarium/e/1664485220)

SHOW NOTES
EG shared this article, and finally, someone wrote something that I largely agree with regarding the sabotage of the Nordstream 2 pipeline:


HOW TO STAGE A SABOTAGE: L'Affair Farewell, Fake History, Fake Science By Deep State Design (https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/how-to-stage-a-sabotage-laffair-farewell)


https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85996d2b-cba3-4480-bf9d-c48e21f18c18_771x807.png

great article... but I think this part of it needs to be vastly expanded:


This meant that at the highest levels of the U.S. government many of the technologies people devoted their lives to technology which did not work.

so... modern physics teaching? (haha) we already know that the macro and micro do not adhere to the concepts of newtonian or einsteinian taught physics (hehe) based constraints (ie, e=mc2 is not useful as a "unified theory" ) but then, that's why "UFO's" etc.. have been known and finally acknowledged.

we live in interesting times (just like the chinese curse).

[Mike Gorman]

I have to say that from what I have heard and know (filtered, controlled information granted) I disagree that the Nord Stream sabotage is Cyber in nature, there has been a major breach of pipeline integrity, like destruction of the physical medium, leaking valves and pressure breaches seem less likely on this very advanced, and incredibly strong structure? More like old fashioned explosion - plastic explosive type explosions.

[Helvetic]

Joseph P. Farrell | News and Views from the Nefarium | Sept. 29, 2022

Source: gizadeathstar.com (http://gizadeathstar.com)

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EG shared this article, and finally, someone wrote something that I largely agree with regarding the sabotage of the Nordstream 2 pipeline.

Article: HOW TO STAGE A SABOTAGE: L'Affair Farewell, Fake History, Fake Science By Deep State Design (https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/how-to-stage-a-sabotage-laffair-farewell)

[wegge]

do we have any actual footage, beyond the circular bubbles on the sea and beyond the level of WMDs in Iraq? Maybe it's completely faked? It's not like the twin towers that no one can suddenly see anymore, this underwater stuff probably no one has seen before either, destroyed or not.

Just a thought.

[Bob_2011]

Just ordered my iodine tablets and a fridge to climb inside :shielddeflect:

[Tintin]

NOTE: this is from 2004 but reveals a precedent...(from The Telegraph newspaper which I am suddenly able to access without a subscription, oddly. Anyway.)

Source: The Telegraph newspaper (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1455559/CIA-plot-led-to-huge-blast-in-Siberian-gas-pipeline.html)

CIA plot led to huge blast in Siberian gas pipeline

By Alec Russell in Washington
28 February 2004 • 12:00am

A CIA operation to sabotage Soviet industry by duping Moscow into stealing booby-trapped software was spectacularly successful when it triggered a huge explosion in a Siberian gas pipeline, it emerged yesterday.

Thomas Reed, a former US Air Force secretary who was in Ronald Reagan's National Security Council, discloses what he called just one example of the CIA's "cold-eyed economic warfare" against Moscow in a memoir to be published next month.

Leaked extracts in yesterday's Washington Post describe how the operation caused "the most monumental non-nuclear explosion and fire ever seen from space" in the summer of 1982.

Mr Reed writes that the software "was programmed to reset pump speeds and valve settings to produce pressures far beyond those acceptable to pipeline joints and welds".

The CIA learned of Soviet ambitions to steal the software via a French KGB source, Col Vladimir Vetrov, codenamed Farewell. His job was to evaluate the intelligence collected by a shadowy arm of the KGB set up a network of industrial spies to steal technology from the West.

The breakthrough came when Vetrov told the CIA of a specific "shopping list" of software technology that Moscow was seeking to update its pipeline as it sought to export natural gas to Western Europe.

Washington was keen to block the deal and, after securing President Reagan's approval in January 1982, the CIA tricked the Soviet Union into acquiring software with built-in flaws.

"In order to disrupt the Soviet gas supply, its hard currency earnings from the West, and the internal Russian economy, the pipeline software that was to run the pumps, turbines and valves was programmed to go haywire after a decent interval, to reset pump speeds and valve settings to produce pressures far beyond those acceptable to pipeline joints and welds," Mr Reed writes.

The project exceeded the CIA's wildest dreams. There were no casualties in the explosion, but it was so dramatic that the first reports are said to have stirred alarm in Washington.

The initial reports led to fears that the Soviets had launched a missile from a place where rockets were not known to be based, or even had detonated "a small nuclear device", Mr Reed writes in his book.

While some of the details of the CIA's counter-offensive have emerged before, the sabotage of the gas pipeline has remained a secret until now. Mr Reed told the Post he had CIA approval to make the disclosures.

Mr Vetrov's spying was discovered by the KGB and he was executed in 1983.

[Tintin]

More historical precedents, while we build our case for the prosecution :) Inconclusive as reported of course but of some interest perhaps

Radio Sweden (https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/6296977) from 2015...

Armed mine disposal vehicle found near gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea
0:48 min


Published lördag 7 november 2015 kl 10.55

An armed remote controlled mine disposal vehicle has been found near a Russian gas pipeline a few kilometres east of the Baltic island of Öland.

The unmanned vehicle was discovered Friday by the gas company Nord Stream during an annual routine check of the pipeline, Jesper Stolpe at the Swedish Armed Forces tells Radio Sweden. The company then notified the Swedish Armed Forces because the vehicle was found in the Swedish economic zone.

Stolpe says that their preliminary findings suggest that the vehicle is armed with an explosive charge used to dispose of naval mines, but he adds that it's unlikely that it will cause any damage to the pipeline.

"We don't consider it to be dangerous to merchant vessels or the pipeline at this point," Stolpe tells Radio Sweden.

Stolpe says that the vehicle has the capacity to damage the pipeline, which in turn could cause a gas leak, but that the wire needed to trigger the charge and to control the vehicle has been cut off rendering the vehicle fairly harmless.

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NATO tested underwater ‘equipment’ close to Nord Stream – Moscow

NATO conducted exercises using deep-sea equipment in the area where gas leaks in the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines were detected this week, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova said on Thursday. She added that the entire Baltic Sea is “packed full” of the bloc’s military infrastructure.

Speaking at a regular press briefing on Thursday, Zakharova dismissed any allegations that Russia was behind the incident. “May I ask you a question? When exactly did Russia decide it wanted to stop supplying energy to Europe?” she asked.

Zakharova said NATO was engaged in military activities close to the location where the leaks were found, noting that it might have presented an interesting “opportunity” for the bloc.

“So, maybe the NATO bases never conducted exercises there, while American soldiers have never been stationed on the territory of nearby countries?” she quipped, adding that this summer "in the area of Bornholm, Denmark, NATO conducted exercises that used deep-sea equipment”.

Zakharova was apparently referring to Exercise Baltic Operations (BALTOPS) 22 in the Baltic Sea, which took place in June 2022 and were meant to demonstrate the military bloc's “mine hunting capabilities,” according to the statement by the US Navy at the time. In particular it sought to experiment with Unmanned Underwater Vehicles (UUV) by deploying them off the coast of Bornholm island.

Kremlin comments on fate of Nord Stream
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Zakharova urged Washington to offer “an explanation” and “confess” to the truth, saying that the US had left that job to Poland's former foreign minister, Radoslaw Sikorski, who earlier “thanked” the US for destroying the pipeline.

NATO said Thursday that the pipelines were damaged in what appeared to be a “deliberate, reckless, and irresponsible acts of sabotage,” promising to meet any attack on its critical infrastructure “with a united and determined response.”

Meanwhile, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov described the Nord Stream leaks as a probable “terrorist act” which is unlikely to have been possible “without the involvement of some state power.”

On Monday, Denmark reported leaks from the pipelines after the operator reported a loss of pressure on both Nord Stream 1 and 2. Danish and Swedish authorities later said there had been a series of undersea explosions near Bornholm. In total, there have been four gas leaks detected in the Nord Stream system.

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Russia calls on Kiev to return to negotiations – Putin

Moscow is ready for talks with Kiev, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday at a ceremony for the signing of treaties on the inclusion of the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics (LPR and DPR), as well as the regions of Kherson and Zaporozhye, which declared independence from Ukraine, into Russia.

“We call on the Kiev regime to cease all hostilities, stop the war it started back in 2014 and return to the negotiating table,” he said, adding, however, that Moscow will not “betray” the territories that want to become a part of Russia.

“People have made their choice. A clear one,” Putin said.

Putin has called on Kiev to treat the “free choice” made by the people of the four territories “with respect.”

“That is the only way for peace,” he added.

The president also warned that Russia would defend its territory using all means available and would do “everything to ensure security of its people.”

He also vowed to help the four territories joining Russia to rebuild, adding that their people would feel the support of all Russian regions.

Friday's ceremony marks the start of the formal process of the four territories’ accession to Russia. After Putin signs the accession treaties, they will be examined by the Constitutional Court and, if cleared, will be sent for ratification to the two chambers of the Russian parliament – the State Duma and the Federation Council. Russian lawmakers are expected to convene to discuss the issue next week.

In February 2022, Russia recognized the Donbass republics as independent states, accusing Kiev of failing to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014.

On Thursday, Putin also recognized the independence of Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions, both of which were seized by Russian forces soon after the start of the conflict between Moscow and Kiev in February 2022. Since that time, the authorities in these regions had repeatedly mulled the idea of joining Russia before eventually holding the referendums in September.

https://www.rt.com/russia/563761-guterres-un-accession-russia/

UN chief tells Moscow to ‘step back from the brink’

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres on Thursday warned Russia against the “annexation” of four former Ukrainian regions, accused Moscow of prompting a “dangerous escalation,” and called on the Kremlin “to step back from the brink.”

His remarks come one day before the ceremonial signing of treaties on the inclusion of the two Donbass republics, as well as the self-proclaimed states in Kherson and Zaporozhye, into the Russian Federation.

Speaking to the reporters, Guterres described the upcoming accession procedure as “a process of annexation of the Ukrainian regions.”

“Any decision to proceed with the annexation of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions of Ukraine would have no legal value and deserves to be condemned. It cannot be reconciled with the international legal framework,” Guterres said.

He explained that, at this “moment of peril,” his duty is to uphold the principles enshrined in the UN Charter, as well as in a key document of the UN General Assembly, the Friendly Relations Declaration of October 24, 1970. Both documents, he said, clearly state that no territorial acquisition “resulting from the threat or use of force” shall be recognized as legal.

Therefore, Guterres argued, the actions of Moscow not only represent “a dangerous escalation” but also violate UN principles, so they “cannot be reconciled with the international legal framework” and “must not be accepted.” The UN chief also emphasized that the referendums in the two republics and two self-proclaimed states, which preceded their official requests to join Russia, were conducted during active military conflict in “areas under Russian occupation” and outside of Ukraine’s “legal and constitutional framework.” Therefore, Guterres argued, “they cannot be called a genuine expression of the popular will.”

Kremlin reveals next step for former Ukrainian regions READ MORE: Kremlin reveals next step for former Ukrainian regions
The secretary general called on Moscow “to step back from the brink” and stop the accession process, claiming that the prospects for a peaceful solution in Ukraine would otherwise be jeopardized even further. “It will prolong the dramatic impacts on the global economy, especially developing countries, and hinder our ability to deliver life-saving aid across Ukraine and beyond.”

On September 21, two days before the referendums in the Donbass republics, Kherson, and Zaporozhye, Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed that the “majority of people living in the territories liberated from the neo-Nazis, and these are primarily the historical lands of Novorossiya, do not want to live under the yoke of the neo-Nazi regime.”

The EU, US, and their allies have refused to accept the results of the referendums, calling them a “sham.” Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said, “Russia’s recognition of the pseudo-referendums” means that Kiev has “nothing to talk about” with Moscow.

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This short clip is worth sharing, a historic moment. Putin is on stage with the heads of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, Denis Pushilin and Leonid Pasechnik, as well as the leaders of Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions, Vladimir Saldo and Evgeny Balitsky. All four signed the accession treaties together with Putin at the Moscow ceremony an hour ago.

As what will be a legal (but necessary) formality, the treaties will now be submitted to Russia’s Constitutional Court, which will assess them to ensure they do not violate Russian law. Once they are cleared, the agreements will have to be ratified first by the State Duma – the lower house of the Russian parliament – and then by the Federal Council, its upper house.

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Russia says West was mastermind of Nord Stream attacks

The director of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) Sergey Naryshkin says there is evidence, which indicates that “the West” may have been behind the disabling of the Nord Stream undersea pipelines.

“We already have certain materials, which point to a Western trace in organizing and executing this terrorist attack,” Naryshkin told journalists on Friday.

He made the remark after explaining that Western nations were trying to cover up the incident to protect the perpetrators and masterminds.

“A number of Western nations launched a search for the ‘authors’ of this terrorist act pretty much the day after it happened,” he explained. “I believe the West is doing everything to hide the true executors and organizers” of the incident.

Leaks in the underwater gas route between Russia and Germany were detected this week after a rapid drop of pressure on Monday. Seismologists in Sweden detected explosions in the area, where natural gas flowing out of the pipes was later discovered by air patrols. Western and Russian officials believe the ruptures to have been caused by sabotage.

Nikolay Patrushev, the secretary of the Russian national security council, stated on Friday that the US was the primary beneficiary of the disruption. He pointed to a CIA-backed attack on Nicaragua’s oil infrastructure in the 1980s as a historic example of American sabotage operations.

READ MORE: Russian security chief names ‘obvious’ beneficiary of pipeline rupture
There has been speculation in the Western media that Moscow may have attacked the pipelines to put pressure on the EU, as it faces high energy prices before winter.

Polish MEP and former Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski implied that the US was behind the incident by thanking it on Twitter. He celebrated the incident, saying that Russia would have to use an overland pipeline going through Poland, if it wants to deliver on its gas contracts with customers in Western Europe. The official, who has connections with Washington’s elite, later deleted the post, saying that he was sharing a personal theory about the Nord Stream breaches.

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Russian security chief names ‘obvious’ beneficiary of pipeline rupture

The US stands to benefit economically from the attack on the Nord Stream gas pipelines and has a record of targeting energy infrastructure with sabotage operations, the head of Russia's Security Council said.

“Pretty much from the first minutes after the news of the explosions broke … the West launched an active campaign for assigning blame. But it is obvious that the primary beneficiary, first of all in the economic sense, was the US,” Nikolay Patrushev said on Friday.

He compared this week’s incident with the attack on Nicaragua’s oil infrastructure in Puerto Sandino in 1983. Back then CIA officers, based on a ship moored in international waters, coordinated a raid by commandos they had trained to fight against the Sandinista government, US press reported at the time. The US spy agency also provided speed boats for the raid, a CIA source explained, according to Associated Press.

The operation was part of the Reagan administration’s “dirty war” on Nicaragua, which later led to the Iran-Contras scandal. The CIA’s secret sale of weapons to Iran to fund Latin American militants was exposed in 1986.

Patrushev made the remarks at a meeting with fellow security officials from former Soviet nations.

“It appears to be necessary to coordinate our effort to expose the masterminds and executors of this crime, setting a good example for effective cooperation,” he told his counterparts.

Ex-Polish FM deletes tweet implying US sabotaged gas pipeline
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He noted that the US goal was “ensuring strategic and economic superiority over alternative centers of power” even though Washington’s ally the EU has been suffering from its policies. The US is replacing Russian natural gas with its more expensive liquified natural gas, as the bloc moves to decouple its economy from Russian energy sources.

The leaks in the two Nord Stream pipelines were first detected on Monday, when pressure in the undersea links connecting Russia directly to Germany drastically dropped. The pipelines were apparently breached with explosives, with the blasts detected by earthquake sensors in Sweden.

Moscow called the incident an international terrorist attack against civilian infrastructure, while some Western officials described it as an act of sabotage.

Some critics of Russia speculated that Moscow decided to blow up its own gas links with Germany to put pressure on the EU.

Polish MEP and former Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski thanked the US for the incident, but later deleted the tweet, calling his implied assertion of Washington’s involvement a personal working theory.

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UK Column News - 30th September 2022

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The program opens on the topic of the referendum, then Patrick Henningsen brings many things related to the pipeline incident to the table that have not so far made it into the popular discussion about it, including the forced nationalisation of the German branch of GASPROM by the German government, on September 22nd.

Other pipelines all across the region from Germany to Eurasia can now be considered military targets. One other line has just been shut down, in the southern distribution system.

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This situation - and whatever is in situ - looks deeply disturbing, and traumatising no matter what corner of planet we are looking .

There is enough young Russian people out there speaking the truth right now and bursting to tears of the news or what they have experienced themselves while ago.

Them and us also know well that all hatred was always artificial and has no bearing on “normal Russians” and “normal Ukrainians” who have been now called to perform acts of hostility against each other.

I think it was Sun’tzu who said “there is nothing worse for a country than prolonged war” .

It’s absolutely unacceptable to drive the EU and basically rest of the world to economic collapse and starvation exhausting current resources for many years to go !!!

Therefor I believe that the War must be stopped fast as possible by focused strategical effort and diplomatic cooperation from all countries including that of China and North Korea , India and Israel to name but few,

otherwise we all are equally inhumane towards both Russians, Ukrainians and overall cause and mission of humanity.

By signing new soulless agreements and supporting this war from which ever side we are guilty for not taking the stand ,

view that is native to all spiritual traditions
and practical truth on life on Earth that can’t be forsaken in 2022.

Normal citizen of this planet today wants to enjoy his “10 commandments” read human rights and freedoms on any place on this planet equally , with respect to his fellow beings.

We all are absolutely capable of that, humanely and without borders.



It takes a strong stand from all involved nations and organisations to stop this war on spot , in my opinion.

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Did Putin just make a reference to the Anglo Saxon Mission (https://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html)??? You can hear in the first three seconds of this clip his words "Anglo Saxon", which isn't the same thing as "the UK" which is how the author of the tweet took this.



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The sabotage may have been done with weapons of a nation state that may have been placed on the pipeline by a submarine that was part of a national navy, but the planning and authorization may have been done by a supranational organization. Think on the level of the "Anglo Saxon Mission (https://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html)."

"Anglo Saxon" is a very amgibuous choice of words. It could refer to:


Germany - where the two tribes originated
the British Isles - where the two tribes mixed and created a language and a civilization
the USA - where people of this descent settled, conquered and colonized the country.

Of course, all of these countries are now much more multi racial and "Ango Saxon" doesn't really explain the official power structures of the government.

"Anglo Saxon" is indeed a very interesting choice of words on Putin's part!

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Pentagon to create ‘Ukraine command’ – media

The Pentagon is working to create a new military command devoted to arming and training Ukrainian soldiers, US officials have told multiple media outlets, suggesting the effort will effectively “overhaul” the current process for weapons transfers to Kiev.

The command would be based in Wiesbaden, Germany – where the US Army keeps its European headquarters – and be made up of 300 staffers led by General Christopher Cavoli, who heads up the military’s European Command, according to unnamed officials cited by the New York Times and CNN on Thursday.

“The changes, which aim to give a formal structure to what has been improvised since the war’s onset, are roughly modeled on US train-and-assist efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past two decades,” the Times reported.

While the new unit would look to make major alterations to the current train-and-equip program for Kiev, Wiesbaden will remain a key component in the scheme, as most Ukrainian troops currently being instructed on American weapons are doing so in or near the city.

Americans to get medals for Ukraine READ MORE: Americans to get medals for Ukraine
Since Russia sent troops into the neighboring country in late February, US military aid to Ukraine has largely been managed from Germany and Poland by Lieutenant General Christopher Donahue, who also oversaw the chaotic evacuation of US forces from Afghanistan last year. However, Donahue and his staff are set to return home next month, creating the need for a specialized command oriented toward training and arming Ukrainian troops.

The proposal for the new unit was initially floated earlier in the conflict by General Tod Wolters, with Cavoli ‘fine-tuning’ the idea after taking his place at EUCOM in July, according to the Times.

In late August, the Wall Street Journal similarly reported that Washington was looking to appoint a general to lead the arm-and-train program in Ukraine, suggesting the initiative could receive an official mission name, as well as “long-term, dedicated funding” from the US government. The outlet added that the changes would mark a “shift from the largely ad hoc effort to provide training and assistance to the Ukrainians for years.”

Pentagon reveals ‘full’ list of military aid to Ukraine READ MORE: Pentagon reveals ‘full’ list of military aid to Ukraine
The US has authorized nearly $17 billion in arms transfers to Ukraine’s military so far this year, with the vast majority of that aid approved since hostilities escalated in February. Though large quantities of gear and ammunition have come directly from existing stockpiles, the Pentagon is also working with arms contractors to manufacture weapons specifically for Kiev, including 18 brand-new High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) announced earlier this week – one of the longest-range platforms provided by Washington to date.

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Nearly 200,000 UK Nationals Sign Petition Calling for Early General Election Amid Crisis

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Over 191,000 UK nationals have signed a petition calling for an immediate general election in the country over dissatisfaction with a new governmental plan to support the national economy and amid "the unprecedented crises threatening the UK," according to the parliamentary website.


"Call an immediate general election so that the people can decide who should lead us through the unprecedented crises threatening the UK. The chaos engulfing the UK government is unprecedented … the UK itself may cease to exist as Scotland seeks independence. This is the greatest set of challenges we have seen in our lifetimes. Let the people decide who leads us through this turmoil," the statement by the petition organizer, Darrin Charlesworth, read.
The UK government has responded, saying that the country is "a Parliamentary democracy and the Conservative Party remains the majority party. The Prime Minister has pledged to ensure opportunity and prosperity for all people and future generations."
The signing process will run through January 28, 2023. Parliament will consider the petition for a debate as it has already been signed by more than 100,000 people.
Meanwhile, UK lawmakers are taking steps to trigger a vote of no confidence in Prime Minister Liz Truss over the new support plan for the country's economy, the broadcaster Sky News reported on Monday, citing a British lawmaker on condition of anonymity.

Last week, UK Chancellor of the Exchequer Kwasi Kwarteng unveiled a new 60-billion-pound growth plan to support the country's economy amid the rising cost of living. The plan includes canceling the planned rise in corporation tax, keeping it the lowest in the G20 at 19%. Since the announcement, the yield on Britain's five-year government bonds has risen to its highest level since 2008, at 4.6%, which means a lower demand for British debt securities, triggering a barrage of criticism against the Truss government.
The next general election in the United Kingdom is scheduled to be held no later than January 2025. The election is an opportunity for British nationals to choose a member of parliament who will represent their interests or concerns in the UK House of Commons (Parliament's lower house) as well as propose new laws.

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Shocking Document: How The Us Planned The War And Energy Crisis In Europe (https://nyadagbladet.se/utrikes/shocking-document-how-the-us-planned-the-war-and-energy-crisis-in-europe/)



In what appears to be an exceptional internal leak from the think tank RAND Corporation, known among other things to have been behind the American strategy for foreign and defence policies during the Cold War, a detailed account is given of how the energy crisis in Europe has been planned by the United States.
The document, which dates from January, acknowledges that the aggressive foreign policy that was being pursued by Ukraine before the conflict would push Russia into having to take military action against the country. Its actual purpose, it contends, was to pressure Europe into adopting a wide range of sanctions against Russia, sanctions which had already been prepared.
The European Union's economy, it states, “will inevitably collapse” as a result of this, and its authors rejoice in the fact that, among other things, resources of up to $9 billion will flow back to the United States, and well-educated young people in Europe will be forced to emigrate.
The key objective described in the document is to divide Europe - especially Germany and Russia - and destroy the European economy by placing useful idiots in political positions in order to stop Russian energy supplies from reaching the continent.

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As the first (https://nyadagbladet.se/utrikes/chockerande-dokumentet-sa-planerade-usa-kriget-och-energikrisen-i-europa/) outlet in Europe, Nya Dagbladet can publish what appears to be classified US plans to crush the European economy by means of a war in Ukraine and an induced energy crisis.

RAND Corporation’s think tank, which has a huge work force of 1,850 employees and a budget of $350 million, has the official aim of “improving policies and decision-making through research and analysis”. It is primarily connected to the United States Department of Defence and is infamous for having been influential in the development of military and other strategies during the Cold War.

A document (https://nyadagbladet.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/rand-corporation-ukraina-energikris.pdf) signed RAND, under the opening heading of “Weakening Germany, strengthening the U.S.”, suggests that there is an “urgent need” for an influx of resources from outside to maintain the overall American economy, but “especially the banking system”.

“Only European countries bound by EU and NATO commitments can provide us with these without significant military and political costs for us.”

According to RAND, the main obstacle to this ambition is the growing independence of Germany. Among other things, it points out that Brexit has given Germany greater independence and made it more difficult for the United States to influence the decisions of European governments.

A key objective that permeates this cynical strategy is, in particular, to destroy the cooperation between Germany and Russia, as well as France, which is seen as the greatest economic and political threat to the United States.

”If implemented, this scenario will eventually turn Europe into not only an economic, but also a political competitor to the United States.”, it declares.


The only way: “Draw both sides into war with Ukraine”

In order to crush this political threat, a strategic plan, primarily focused on destroying the German economy, is presented.

“Stopping Russian deliveries could create a systematic crisis that would be devastating for the German economy and indirectly for the European Union as a whole”, it states, and believes that the key is to draw the European countries into war.

“The only possible way to ensure that Germany rejects Russian energy supplies is to draw both sides into the military conflict in Ukraine. Our continued actions in this country will inevitably lead to a military response from Russia. Russia is clearly not going to leave to the massive Ukrainian army’s pressure on the Donetsk People’s Republic without a military response. This would make it possible to portray Russia as the aggressive party and then implement the entire package of sanctions, which has already been drawn up”.


Green parties will force Germany to “fall into the trap”

The green parties in Europe are described as being particularly easy to manipulate into running the errands of American imperialism.

“The prerequisite for Germany to fall into this trap is the dominant role of green parties and European ideologies. The German environmental movement is a highly dogmatic, if not fanatical, movement, which makes it quite easy to get them to ignore economic arguments”, it writes, citing the current foreign minister of Germany, Annalena Baerbock, and the climate minister, Robert Habeck, as examples of this type of politician.

“Personal characteristics and lack of professionalism make it possible to assume that it is impossible for them to recognise their own mistakes in time. I will therefore be sufficient to rapidly form a media image of Putin’s aggressive war – and make the Greens into ardent and tough supporters of sanctions – a ‘war party’. This will make it possible to impose the sanctions without any obstacles”.

Baerbock is, i.a., well known for declaring that she will continue the suspension of Russian gas even during the winter – regardless of what her constituents think about the matter and the consequences for the German population.

– We will stand with Ukraine, and this means that the sanctions will stay, also in winter time – even if it gets really tough for politicians, she said at a conference in Prague recently.

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Green Party politicians Annalena Baerbock (left) and Robert Habeck (right) are described by the United Sates as being grateful for being manipulated into running errands for the United States – in particular the goal of destroying the German economy.


“Ideally – a complete halt of supplies”

The authors express a hope that the damage between Germany and Russia will be so great that it will make it impossible for the countries to re-establish normal relations later on.

“A reduction in Russian energy supplies – ideally, a complete halt of such supplies– would lead to disastrous outcomes for German industry. The need to divert significant amounts of Russian gas for winter heating will further exacerbate the shortages. Lockdowns in industrial enterprises would cause shortages of components and spare parts for manufacturing, a breakdown of logistics chains and, eventually, a domino effect”.

Ultimately, a total collapse of the economy in Europe is seen as both probable and desirable.

“Not only will it deliver a devastating blow to the German economy, the entire economy of the entire EU economy will inevitably collapse.”

It further points out that the benefits of US-based companies having less competition on the world market, logistical advantages and the outflow of capital from Europe, would mean that they would be able to contribute to the economy of the United States by an estimated 7-9 trillion dollars. In addition, it also emphasises the important effect of many well-educated and young Europeans being be forced to immigrate to the USA.


RAND denies originating the report

RAND Corporation issued a press release (https://nyadagbladet.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/rand-kommentar.jpg) on Wednesday denying that the report originates from them. No comments are made regarding what parts of the report are false or what is accurate, apart from simply writing that the content is “bizarre” and that the document is “fake””.


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https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/29/66-nations-at-un-say-end-war-in-ukraine/

[Ravenlocke]

#TheDuran #theduranlive
Cui bono, "to whom is it a benefit?" w/Robert Barnes (Live)

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[Bill Ryan]

Did Putin just make a reference to the Anglo Saxon Mission (https://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html)??? You can hear in the first three seconds of this clip his words "Anglo Saxon", which isn't the same thing as "the UK" which is how the author of the tweet took this.



https://twitter.com/grayphil27/status/1575832629970350080



The sabotage may have been done with weapons of a nation state that may have been placed on the pipeline by a submarine that was part of a national navy, but the planning and authorization may have been done by a supranational organization. Think on the level of the "Anglo Saxon Mission (https://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html)."

"Anglo Saxon" is a very ambiguous choice of words. It could refer to:


Germany - where the two tribes originated
the British Isles - where the two tribes mixed and created a language and a civilization
the USA - where people of this descent settled, conquered and colonized the country.

Of course, all of these countries are now much more multi racial and "Ango Saxon" doesn't really explain the official power structures of the government.

"Anglo Saxon" is indeed a very interesting choice of words on Putin's part!Yes, I caught that as well. My strong guess is that Russian intelligence is so thorough (as is Chinese intelligence) that they definitely know about the plan — which, though it was formulated 17 years ago and may well have changed, did involve escalation into nuclear conflict.

I'd had the video translated into Chinese to be sure that the Chinese intel agencies picked it up. I don't recall whether we also translated it into Russian, but making the safe assumption that Russians also became aware, it's not impossible that this may be playing a significant part right now in Putin's current focused discipline NOT to be provoked into a major war.

[Eva2]

I haven't noticed this video posted yet - if it has been, please delete.

'Eva Bartlett Describes Ukraine's Unspeakable Genocide of Donbass (graphic content warning)'



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiC0w8JLu4

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1575893237339983873
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https://www.rt.com/news/563760-senate-passes-ukraine-aid/

US Senate approves massive Ukraine aid package

The US Senate voted on Thursday to pass a funding bill which includes $12 billion in additional military and economic aid for Ukraine. Twenty-two Republicans joined their Democrat colleagues to pass the bill, which comes after the US has already allocated around $55 billion to Kiev since February.

The bill serves the twofold purpose of funding the government to prevent a shutdown at the end of the week and providing another mammoth cash injection to Ukraine’s military and economy. It would set aside $4.5 billion for the Ukrainian government, $3 billion for weapons and military equipment, and additional funding to replenish US weapons already sent to Ukraine and to allow the transfer of more arms from American stockpiles.

The US has already set aside around $55 billion to prop up Ukraine’s government and armed forces since February, including a $40 billion package of military and economic assistance passed in July. The latest bill is expected to pass in the House of Representatives on Friday before being signed into law by US President Joe Biden, at which point the US will have committed more military aid to any foreign country in a year since the Vietnam War.

Pentagon reveals ‘full’ list of military aid to Ukraine
Pentagon reveals ‘full’ list of military aid to Ukraine
The bill passed by 72 votes to 25, with 22 Republicans crossing party lines to ensure its easy passage in the evenly-divided Senate.

While former President Donald Trump has accused the Biden administration of risking the outbreak of “World War III” by pouring weapons into an active conflict with a nuclear power, the Republican establishment does not share his caution.

“Assisting Ukraine is not some feel-good, symbolic gesture. It’s literally an investment in our own national security and that of our allies,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who backed the bill, said before Thursday’s vote. McConnell did not explain the relation between Ukraine’s national security and America’s.

According to a list released by the Pentagon on Wednesday, the US has delivered $16.9 billion worth of weapons to Ukraine since February. This list includes 16 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), over 150 artillery pieces, tens of thousands of anti-tank missiles and nearly a million artillery shells.

[Ravenlocke]

https://www.rt.com/business/563797-ruble-rises-against-euro-dollar/

Ruble surges against euro and dollar

The Russian ruble strengthened to new highs against the Euro and US dollar during Friday trading on the Moscow Exchange amid the threat of further Western sanctions, as the two Donbass republics, as well as the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, are set to become part of Russia.

The euro was trading at an eight-year low against the Russian currency, at 51.1 rubles as of 12:10 GMT. The EU currency briefly sank below 51 rubles at one point. The dollar rate fell below 54 rubles for the first time since July.

Both top global reserve currencies have been declining against the ruble amid rising geopolitical tensions. The Russian denomination has remained strong in recent months partly due to limited demand from importers, which are already grappling with the effects of the sanctions on Moscow.

Analysts explain the imbalance in the ratio of the currencies by the large-scale sales of the euro and the dollar in the absence of demand on the Moscow Exchange. On Thursday, the adviser to the first deputy chairman of the Central Bank of Russia, Sergey Moiseev, said exchange trading in the dollar and euro could be halted if sanctions are introduced against the Moscow Exchange.

READ MORE: Putin recognizes independence of Zaporozhye and Kherson
The ruble’s rise comes as Russian President Vladimir Putin signed two decrees recognizing the former Ukrainian regions of Kherson and Zaporozhye as independent sovereign states on Thursday. The move came on the eve of the official ceremony in which the Russian president is expected to sign treaties on incorporating the regions of Kherson and Zaporozhye, as well as the two Donbass republics, into Russia. Referendums on joining Russia were held in Zaporozhye and Kherson, as well as the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR), between September 23 and 27.

[Ravenlocke]

https://sputniknews.com/20220930/russia-vetoes-unsc-draft-resolution-rejecting-referendum-results-in-former-ukraine-regions-1101395061.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Russia Vetoes UNSC Draft Resolution Rejecting Referendum Results in Former Ukraine Regions

UNITED NATIONS (Sputnik) - Russia vetoed on Friday a UN Security Council draft resolution designed to condemn Moscow for incorporating four former Ukrainian regions.


Ten members voted in favor 10, one against and four others abstained.

"The draft resolution has not been adopted owing to the negative vote of a permanent member of the Council," French Ambassador to the UN De Riviere said at a UN Security Council meeting.

France holds the presidency of the Council for September.

Ahead of the vote, US Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield noted that in the event of the resolution being vetoed, the matter would be taken to the 193-member General Assembly.
Earlier in the day, Russian Ambassador to the UN Vassily Nebenzia said the US-Albanian draft resolution demonstrates the West's refusal to engage and cooperate within the Council. He called the draft a "low-grade provocation with a goal that is clear to all."

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1575906122317561856
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[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1575894284511096832
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https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1575866824700628993

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[Violet3]

This short clip is worth sharing, a historic moment. Putin is on stage with the heads of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, Denis Pushilin and Leonid Pasechnik, as well as the leaders of Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions, Vladimir Saldo and Evgeny Balitsky. All four signed the accession treaties together with Putin at the Moscow ceremony an hour ago.

As what will be a legal (but necessary) formality, the treaties will now be submitted to Russia’s Constitutional Court, which will assess them to ensure they do not violate Russian law. Once they are cleared, the agreements will have to be ratified first by the State Duma – the lower house of the Russian parliament – and then by the Federal Council, its upper house.

https://t.me/intelslava/38204

intelslava/38204

Very brief but I found myself very moved, especially when Putin started to chant with the huge crowd. No idea what they were chanting but it was good. So much pain has been gone through to get to this point.

[Mashika]

This short clip is worth sharing, a historic moment. Putin is on stage with the heads of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, Denis Pushilin and Leonid Pasechnik, as well as the leaders of Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions, Vladimir Saldo and Evgeny Balitsky. All four signed the accession treaties together with Putin at the Moscow ceremony an hour ago.

As what will be a legal (but necessary) formality, the treaties will now be submitted to Russia’s Constitutional Court, which will assess them to ensure they do not violate Russian law. Once they are cleared, the agreements will have to be ratified first by the State Duma – the lower house of the Russian parliament – and then by the Federal Council, its upper house.

https://t.me/intelslava/38204

intelslava/38204

Very brief but I found myself very moved, especially when Putin started to chant with the huge crowd. No idea what they were chanting but it was good. So much pain has been gone through to get to this point.

I can't raise the volume much so it's a bit hard to hear but i believe they are chanting "Glory to Russia" - (Слава России or Slava Rossiya) :)

[Michel Leclerc]

(...)

"Anglo Saxon" is a very ambiguous choice of words. It could refer to:


Germany - where the two tribes originated
the British Isles - where the two tribes mixed and created a language and a civilization
the USA - where people of this descent settled, conquered and colonized the country.

Of course, all of these countries are now much more multi racial and "Ango Saxon" doesn't really explain the official power structures of the government.



Yes, I caught that as well. (...)

Thank you Kryztian, Bill.

As for your first identification, Kryztian (“Germany, where the two tribes originated”), I beg to differ. Certainly the two tribes, the Angli (Pope Gregorius famously said, when presented with a qood-looking fair-haired young “Anglus”: "non sunt Angli, sed angeli” ("they are not Angles but angels”)) – hardly anybody would make such a comment now I’m afraid) and the Saxones (I’m not sure about the Latin for the latter) emigrated to / invaded the Celt-inhabited British Isles. They did so both, and were later considered one group (the "Anglo-Saxons") if only because they more or less jointly pushed the Celts to the North, the West and the South West. All the Angli left Germany, but part of the Saxon tribe stayed, presumably in what is more or less "Sachsen" in Germany now.

That means that the combination "Anglo-Saxon" has been reduced to the meaning: the invaders of the Celtic British Isles and/or the speakers of West-Germanic dialects (as opposed to Celtic ones). In spite of the later Viking invasion and, two centuries later, French/Norman invasion, "English” has stuck as name for the language I am writing this post in, and that in spite of the fact that it contains quite a lot of Celtic, Latin, Norse and French. It also means that the countries in which natives speak English are called Anglo-Saxon in both the Latin cultures of this world (French, Italian etc.) and the Slavonic ones (Russian, Polish etc.) – but never, in those civilisational realms, is Germany called "Anglo-Saxon" – Germany which is inhabited by a Germanic population, as are the Netherlands and (partly) Belgium (where Dutch is spoken, a Germanic langage), or (partly) South Africa for that matter (where Afrikaans is also a Germanic language). Admittedly English is, because of its large “Anglish” and “Saxon” content, Germanic as well ("Anglish" and "Saxon" being (West-) Germanic dialects), only it is never called that way (unless in scientific linguistic contexts) but always and only Anglo-Saxon. “Anglo-Saxon” are then, by convention, the countries where English is spoken as a native language, and so we arrive at the five-eyes countries, the UK, the USA, Canada, Australia and New-Zealand.

This is the "Anglo-Saxon" realm, and obviously we arrive then at the "Rhodesian" exceptionalism and at the “Anglo-Saxon mission“ – and certainly the Russian secret services have been aware of this exceptionalism and ”mission“ for a long time and understand it for what it is – what corresponds to what you have relayed for quite a number of years now Bill – ...have been aware of that, because they do know their history (cf. Shaberon’s historic overviews of "Russophobia" as "Orthodoxophobia"), and I conclude that it is indeed to this definition that president Putin refers.

Quite apart from that, I guess the Russians consider it diplomatically unwise to call their erstwhile customers and targets of the USA (see the Rand Corporation study), i.e. the Germans, "Anglo-Saxons".

[Chester]

(...)

"Anglo Saxon" is a very ambiguous choice of words. It could refer to:


Germany - where the two tribes originated
the British Isles - where the two tribes mixed and created a language and a civilization
the USA - where people of this descent settled, conquered and colonized the country.

Of course, all of these countries are now much more multi racial and "Ango Saxon" doesn't really explain the official power structures of the government.



Yes, I caught that as well. (...)

Thank you Kryztian, Bill.

As for your first identification, Kryztian (“Germany, where the two tribes originated”), I beg to differ. Certainly the two tribes, the Angli (Pope Gregorius famously said, when presented with a qood-looking fair-haired young “Anglus”: "non sunt Angli, sed angeli” ("they are not Angles but angels”)) – hardly anybody would make such a comment now I’m afraid) and the Saxones (I’m not sure about the Latin for the latter) emigrated to / invaded the Celt-inhabited British Isles. They did so both, and were later considered one group (the "Anglo-Saxons") if only because they more or less jointly pushed the Celts to the North, the West and the South West. All the Angli left Germany, but part of the Saxon tribe stayed, presumably in what is more or less "Sachsen" in Germany now.

That means that the combination "Anglo-Saxon" has been reduced to the meaning: the invaders of the Celtic British Isles and/or the speakers of West-Germanic dialects (as opposed to Celtic ones). In spite of the later Viking invasion and, two centuries later, French/Norman invasion, "English” has stuck as name for the language I am writing this post in, and that in spite of the fact that it contains quite a lot of Celtic, Latin, Norse and French. It also means that the countries in which natives speak English are called Anglo-Saxon in both the Latin cultures of this world (French, Italian etc.) and the Slavonic ones (Russian, Polish etc.) – but never, in those civilisational realms, is Germany called "Anglo-Saxon" – Germany which is inhabited by a Germanic population, as are the Netherlands and (partly) Belgium (where Dutch is spoken, a Germanic langage), or (partly) South Africa for that matter (where Afrikaans is also a Germanic language). Admittedly English is, because of its large “Anglish” and “Saxon” content, Germanic as well ("Anglish" and "Saxon" being (West-) Germanic dialects), only it is never called that way (unless in scientific linguistic contexts) but always and only Anglo-Saxon. “Anglo-Saxon” are then, by convention, the countries where English is spoken as a native language, and so we arrive at the five-eyes countries, the UK, the USA, Canada, Australia and New-Zealand.

This is the "Anglo-Saxon" realm, and obviously we arrive then at the "Rhodesian" exceptionalism and at the “Anglo-Saxon mission“ – and certainly the Russian secret services have been aware of this exceptionalism and ”mission“ for a long time and understand it for what it is – what corresponds to what you have relayed for quite a number of years now Bill – ...have been aware of that, because they do know their history (cf. Shaberon’s historic overviews of "Russophobia" as "Orthodoxophobia"), and I conclude that it is indeed to this definition that president Putin refers.

Quite apart from that, I guess the Russians consider it diplomatically unwise to call their erstwhile customers and targets of the USA (see the Rand Corporation study), i.e. the Germans, "Anglo-Saxons".

I'm a simple man and I thought the following - "The Anglo-Saxons, known in Old English as the “Angul-Seaxan”, shaped much of the English language, culture, and identity. Descended from a hotchpotch of Germanic peoples who migrated to parts of Britain, they inhabited and ruled territories in England and Wales for six centuries." - from here (https://www.thecollector.com/who-were-the-anglo-saxons/)

Also - you could say today it is (as you stated) - "the UK, the USA, Canada, Australia and New-Zealand" but it's easier to sat, The Five Eyes.

Kryztian's post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1520631&viewfull=1#post1520631) stated this rather accurately IMO.

I would actually point to Die Spinne (the 4th Reich) as the overarching transnational organizing force... still at war with Russia after it's "official" formation after WWII, though it's roots go back decades before.

[Mashika]

Who knew it was that simple... :P

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[Mashika]

The fight for freedom is hard, not everyone makes it, and these people will never be able to live their dream, it ends for them now

This is not new, just another day, and their voices are silenced and very few people will know they even existed, or about what happened to them. For sure there will be no news of this on the west, and much less an understanding of why and how this is happening to those people

rosgvardia67/11484


A column of civilian vehicles moving towards the part of the Zaporozhye region controlled by the Russian Federation came under fire from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the morning, the military-civil administration of Energodar reported.

In total, up to 15 artillery explosions were heard. A large number of dead and wounded are reported.


I was not going to post the embedded link, but i think it is time for some people to take a look and maybe think "why i haven't heard about this on the news? Who did this? And why?" Sometimes, it is past the time to look away, and instead maybe a little shock and test of reality may wake some people up

Or not...

[Kryztian]

(...)

"Anglo Saxon" is a very ambiguous choice of words. It could refer to:


Germany - where the two tribes originated
the British Isles - where the two tribes mixed and created a language and a civilization
the USA - where people of this descent settled, conquered and colonized the country.

Of course, all of these countries are now much more multi racial and "Ango Saxon" doesn't really explain the official power structures of the government.



Yes, I caught that as well. (...)

Thank you Kryztian, Bill.

As for your first identification, Kryztian (“Germany, where the two tribes originated”), I beg to differ. Certainly the two tribes, the Angli (Pope Gregorius famously said, when presented with a qood-looking fair-haired young “Anglus”: "non sunt Angli, sed angeli” ("they are not Angles but angels”)) – hardly anybody would make such a comment now I’m afraid) and the Saxones (I’m not sure about the Latin for the latter) emigrated to / invaded the Celt-inhabited British Isles. They did so both, and were later considered one group (the "Anglo-Saxons") if only because they more or less jointly pushed the Celts to the North, the West and the South West. All the Angli left Germany, but part of the Saxon tribe stayed, presumably in what is more or less "Sachsen" in Germany now.



I'm a simple man and I thought the following - "The Anglo-Saxons, known in Old English as the “Angul-Seaxan”, shaped much of the English language, culture, and identity. Descended from a hotchpotch of Germanic peoples who migrated to parts of Britain, they inhabited and ruled territories in England and Wales for six centuries." - from here (https://www.thecollector.com/who-were-the-anglo-saxons/)



I don't want to get off topic here, but my point is merely this is that Putin's remark about "Anglo-Saxons" is very unusual because the term really isn't connected with any one nation state. The Angles, the Saxons, and the Jutes (oh, let's not forget THE JUTES :nono: ) who settled England, came from what is today either Germany or Denmark. However, the term also was widely used in the U.S.A. where the social elites were required to be "WASPS", which is an anagram for White Anglo Saxon Protestants .

I think that Putin used the term to say this isn't really a nation state behind the sabotage, it is a group of elites on either side of the Atlantic who are putting an agenda forward, although many of them are clearly in the City of London. The other irony here, is that this group of white elites are also pushing a neoliberal agenda to mind control us, which includes pushing the idea of multiculturalism ahead of other values such as individual liberty and freedom of speech. It is just ironic that this groups of individual who are trying to promote culture wars and are promoting a virtue signaling civilization is itself an exclusive country club of white Anglo Saxons warmongers.

https://i.imgur.com/R9KELP8.gif

:focus:

[Mashika]

The difference between "Let's lend a hand to the Donbass republics" and "Russia's land is being attacked".

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[Hym]

The difference between "Let's lend a hand to the Donbass republics" and "Russia's land is being attacked".

RVvoenkor/27651

Translation of telegram post and video:

"Help is coming! - Armored forces of the Russian Army are transferred to the southern front on the Crimean Bridge."

[Snoweagle]

PUTIN DECLARES HOLY WAR ON WESTERN SATANISM! INVOKES JESUS!

Posted By: jensingr
Date: Friday, 30-Sep-2022 20:20:55
www.rumormill.news/208539

Putin declares holy war on Western 'satanism'

"They [the West] are moving toward open Satanism," he said in a speech broadcast to millions online.

Western elites were teaching "sexual deviation" to children who changed their gender, he said. "We're fighting for historical Russia, to protect our children and grandchildren from this experiment to change their souls," he added.

Putin invoked Jesus by name to bear witness to his "truth" and portrayed himself in messianic terms.

"I believe in the spiritual power of the Russian people and my spirit is its spirit, the suffering of the people is my suffering," he said.

"The destruction of the Western hegemony is irreversible," Putin added, as he neared the climax of his oration.

Putin also blamed "Anglo-Saxons", referring to the UK and US, for blowing up two Russian gas pipelines to Germany this week — in a potential casus belli with Nato.

https://euobserver.com/world/156188
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The MSM just do not give up by their vile misrepresentations spewing scorn at every opportunity.

The MSM should be held to account.

[pounamuknight]

Russia interrupts a NATO narrative livestream for an important message

JB0QyDIcISI
They even have the courtesy to say thank you & good luck at the end of their international geopolitical trolling :Angel:

[Bill Ryan]

The fight for freedom is hard, not everyone makes it, and these people will never be able to live their dream, it ends for them now

This is not new, just another day, and their voices are silenced and very few people will know they even existed, or about what happened to them. For sure there will be no news of this on the west, and much less an understanding of why and how this is happening to those people

rosgvardia67/11484


A column of civilian vehicles moving towards the part of the Zaporozhye region controlled by the Russian Federation came under fire from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the morning, the military-civil administration of Energodar reported.

In total, up to 15 artillery explosions were heard. A large number of dead and wounded are reported.


I was not going to post the embedded link, but i think it is time for some people to take a look and maybe think "why i haven't heard about this on the news? Who did this? And why?" Sometimes, it is past the time to look away, and instead maybe a little shock and test of reality may wake some people up

Or not...Yes, bumping this, and I couldn't agree more.

:heart:

[norman]

This insane 'fight to the last Ukrainian' and 'kill them on the way out' situation has got a population replacement plan written all over it.

It really looks, to me, like some very evil people want a new homeland, or perhaps, in their minds, want their old one back.

But first, what to do with Russia ?

They've got a desperate problem to solve, and I don't wish them any luck. I want them out of action yesterday.

[Bill Ryan]

But first, what to do with Russia ?

They've got a desperate problem to solve, and I don't wish them any luck. I want them out of action yesterday.Can you say more? I wasn't at all clear what you're referring to here.

[Bill Ryan]

Here's a 20-minute video that I found very interesting, a concise and focused discussion between Kim Iverson (who I always enjoy listening to) and Jackson Hinkle, one of the brightest and most aware 23-year olds around.

What caught my attention here was Kim's not-impossible argument that it wasn't the US who sabotaged the pipelines, but Poland. It did strike me, as soon as it happened, what while all the circumstantial evidence pointed strongly to the US and still does, it would also have been VERY easy for another nation to be making it look like it was the US who did it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHbXuZMopZ0

[Tintin]

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Source: https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1575950849519808512

[Kryztian]

What caught my attention here was Kim's not-impossible argument that it wasn't the US who sabotaged the pipelines, but Poland. It did strike me, as soon as it happened, what while all the circumstantial evidence pointed strongly to the US and still does, it would also have been VERY easy for another nation to be making it look like it was the US who did it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHbXuZMopZ0

Well, if Poland has a lot to benefit from this act of sabotage, how about the Norwegians? They are the ones supplying the gas - I think they have the most to benefit.

I think a lot of this boils down to the technology and military capabilities that each of these countries has. Also, the United States had ships in the area at the time, 30 to 50 kilometers away. Wouldn't the sonar be able to detect submarines and other types of activity at that distance? We need to hear from some military tech people on this.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/DeuNachrichten/status/1576190274199760902
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https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1576206985745223680
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1576209062043140097
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1576209068196519936
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[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1576183829110218753
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1576183839437000704
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1576183845098962944
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1576183851927625728
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https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1576183857346674688
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[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1576212185663012864

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https://www.rt.com/russia/563866-krasny-liman-withdrawal-troops/

Russian forces withdraw from key Donbass city – military

Russian troops and the Donbass militias have had to withdraw from their defensive positions in the city of Krasny Liman as Ukrainian forces mounted a large-scale offensive targeting the area, the Russian Defense Ministry confirmed in a statement on Saturday.

Earlier, the head of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), Denis Pushilin, called the situation in the city “alarming,” saying the city had been “half-encircled” by Ukrainian troops.

“Due to the emerging threat of encirclement, the allied troops have withdrawn from the settlement of Krasny Liman and deployed to more advantageous positions,” the ministry said in a statement. The Ukrainian forces lost more than 200 soldiers as well as five tanks and five infantry fighting vehicles during the attack on Krasny Liman, the military added.

Despite the losses, the Ukrainian command sent in reserves and reached “considerable superiority in men and material” in the direction of the attack, the Russian ministry said.

A representative of the Ukrainian operational command ‘East’, Sergey Cherevaty, told the Ukrainian media that the Russian forces in Krasny Liman had been “encircled.” He also said that the Ukrainian troops had seized five settlements near Krasny Liman, including the town of Yampol, which is located to the southeast.

Pushilin earlier said that the DPR had lost full control of the towns of Yampol and Drobyshevo, while the Ukrainians were shelling the supply route between Krasny Liman and a Russian major logistics base in the town of Svatovo.

Krasny Liman, renamed Lyman by Ukraine in 2016, was seized by Russian and Donbass forces in late May. The city is located on the DPR’s northern edge not far from Ukraine’s Kharkov Region, the eastern part of which was captured by Ukrainian troops in early September.

The news came a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin signed treaties on the accession of the DPR and neighboring Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR) into Russia. The president also signed agreements on the accession of the Russian-held Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions, which declared independence from Ukraine. The four territories overwhelmingly voted in favor of joining Russia in referendums held between September 23 and 27.

Ukraine and the Western nations refused to recognize the results of the referendums.

The developments also come after Putin announced a partial mobilization aimed at calling some 300,000 reservists to arms, most of whom are yet to be sent to the regions.

[Hym]

The fight for freedom is hard, not everyone makes it, and these people will never be able to live their dream, it ends for them now

This is not new, just another day, and their voices are silenced and very few people will know they even existed, or about what happened to them. For sure there will be no news of this on the west, and much less an understanding of why and how this is happening to those people

rosgvardia67/11484


A column of civilian vehicles moving towards the part of the Zaporozhye region controlled by the Russian Federation came under fire from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the morning, the military-civil administration of Energodar reported.

In total, up to 15 artillery explosions were heard. A large number of dead and wounded are reported.


I was not going to post the embedded link, but i think it is time for some people to take a look and maybe think "why i haven't heard about this on the news? Who did this? And why?" Sometimes, it is past the time to look away, and instead maybe a little shock and test of reality may wake some people up

Or not...



Using the very same videos from ROSGVARDIA_RUSSIA Z on telegram, showing the deaths of Russian speaking Ukranians. a reporter, now providing short news breaks on at least one other broadcast on this new site, Real America's Voice on americasvoice.news, shows just how insidious the corrupt intelligence agencies are when turning the deaths of innocent civilians into political theater, a global organization using its immense and imbedded manipulation of news services.

For me and others I know who count only the truth in our assessment of how things are around the world, we got another strong signal showing that very few news sources abide by their always advertised, yet rarely honored duty, a human responsibility to tell the whole truth, especially in the complexity that does not allow for any distortion or manipulation from those who guide world events. The kindest remark I can make to the news site is F. U.! And to the presenter I remind him that reporting is his job. How hard is that?

Here it is not a direct government official, but a so-called news reporter repeating the script from Reuters, well known for its dark yellow, piss-on-the-truth, journalism, in service to the war profiteers who control it. The owners of the site have finally revealed a directive from a darker source, a complicity to the western control of everything it touches. That should be a disappointment to those who did not know that it was a possibility, somewhere along the timeline of its populist acceptance. After all, aren't all political parties subject to the intrusion of those controllers who consider the lives of ordinary people just pawns in their narrative of self service?

Here is the news short from americasvoice.news, on The Charlie Kirk Show, September 30, 2022 Part 4 (0:00 to 0:55)

(I have CAPITALIZED the words used to control)

"WELCOME back to this America's Voice NEWSbreak. I'm Terence Bates. Russian President Vladimir Putin just LAUNCHED the process of annexing parts of Ukraine when he signed a law ABSORBING the four territories into Russia, despite INTERNATIONAL CONDEMNATION.

In the meantime, REPORTS out of those areas INDICATE convoys of people FLEEING every single day in order to avoid the SEEMINGLY UNPOPULAR Russian annexation. According to a REUTERS REPORT, one of those convoys in Southern Ukraine was the VICTIM of an ALLEGED Russian missile attack, killing MORE THAN 20 civilians, this morning. That convoy was assembling in a car park near Zaporozhye city in order to carry people and supplies into the RUSSIAN HELD territory.

Meantime, Ukraine says it will take back all of its territories. Russian officials, including the country's foreign minister have REPORTEDLY SAID the THREAT of nuclear retaliation would apply to any attacks on the areas THEY plan to annex."





I do not blame the presenter, except for any claim he may have to being a reporter and not merely a REPEATER. The out of character presentation for the site is being used just as a thoroughly main stream, mockingbird news outlet would use and abuse it, and this is noteworthy.

The undeniable fact that it was the Ukranian military who murdered those civilians, and not the Russians, who have painstakingly avoided injuring or killing civilians, shows the total lack of investigation put into the so called report. The distortion of that short video and the lies told "reporting" it inject a deep emotional provocation into those who view it. Who, controlling that site, made that decision, when the entire site is supposedly based on combating the globalist control of lives on this planet?

To their credit the site has been doing very honest, fact based reporting and their reporters have done some hard core, real boots on the ground reporting, filled with insights revealing a strong moral compass. I do hope they know how responsible THEIR reporting should always be. If any of us wanted to listen to, to see, that kind of dishonest reporting we would just turn on any main street media news outlet, the ones they constantly criticize daily. This is another inflection point for me and many of their viewers who see the big lie used in that short report as a great loss of credibility on their part.

On many levels, especially on a moral, soulful level those most extreme distortions of the truth of the murder of civilians are just as evil as the deeds themselves. Yes, I get the emotion. It goes both ways, and even more deeply when we know that the manipulation of the truth for political gain is the reason that someone at that site chose to sell that lie. I'm not surprised, B****es.

(Writing here, maybe everywhere, is a peculiar gift, for all of us. Peculiar because in honoring the existence of the writing of those who share here, thus not endangering the concept and presentation of civility, I see its unique position in my life.

I don't talk to many people like I do here. For all sentience in the dimensional worlds the color is brighter, the language and the expressions are shorter, with a depth of subtlety not available in writing, even as I am learning ways to incorporate those proxies for my living, our living, into these words. I have a profound appreciation for the allowance I have honoring the space here. It is a space that I spend as well as I am consciously able.)

[Michel Leclerc]

(...)

"Anglo Saxon" is a very ambiguous choice of words. It could refer to:


Germany - where the two tribes originated
the British Isles - where the two tribes mixed and created a language and a civilization
the USA - where people of this descent settled, conquered and colonized the country.

Of course, all of these countries are now much more multi racial and "Ango Saxon" doesn't really explain the official power structures of the government.



Yes, I caught that as well. (...)

Thank you Kryztian, Bill.

As for your first identification, Kryztian (“Germany, where the two tribes originated”), I beg to differ. Certainly the two tribes, the Angli (Pope Gregorius famously said, when presented with a qood-looking fair-haired young “Anglus”: "non sunt Angli, sed angeli” ("they are not Angles but angels”)) – hardly anybody would make such a comment now I’m afraid) and the Saxones (I’m not sure about the Latin for the latter) emigrated to / invaded the Celt-inhabited British Isles. They did so both, and were later considered one group (the "Anglo-Saxons") if only because they more or less jointly pushed the Celts to the North, the West and the South West. All the Angli left Germany, but part of the Saxon tribe stayed, presumably in what is more or less "Sachsen" in Germany now.

That means that the combination "Anglo-Saxon" has been reduced to the meaning: the invaders of the Celtic British Isles and/or the speakers of West-Germanic dialects (as opposed to Celtic ones). In spite of the later Viking invasion and, two centuries later, French/Norman invasion, "English” has stuck as name for the language I am writing this post in, and that in spite of the fact that it contains quite a lot of Celtic, Latin, Norse and French. It also means that the countries in which natives speak English are called Anglo-Saxon in both the Latin cultures of this world (French, Italian etc.) and the Slavonic ones (Russian, Polish etc.) – but never, in those civilisational realms, is Germany called "Anglo-Saxon" – Germany which is inhabited by a Germanic population, as are the Netherlands and (partly) Belgium (where Dutch is spoken, a Germanic langage), or (partly) South Africa for that matter (where Afrikaans is also a Germanic language). Admittedly English is, because of its large “Anglish” and “Saxon” content, Germanic as well ("Anglish" and "Saxon" being (West-) Germanic dialects), only it is never called that way (unless in scientific linguistic contexts) but always and only Anglo-Saxon. “Anglo-Saxon” are then, by convention, the countries where English is spoken as a native language, and so we arrive at the five-eyes countries, the UK, the USA, Canada, Australia and New-Zealand.

This is the "Anglo-Saxon" realm, and obviously we arrive then at the "Rhodesian" exceptionalism and at the “Anglo-Saxon mission“ – and certainly the Russian secret services have been aware of this exceptionalism and ”mission“ for a long time and understand it for what it is – what corresponds to what you have relayed for quite a number of years now Bill – ...have been aware of that, because they do know their history (cf. Shaberon’s historic overviews of "Russophobia" as "Orthodoxophobia"), and I conclude that it is indeed to this definition that president Putin refers.

Quite apart from that, I guess the Russians consider it diplomatically unwise to call their erstwhile customers and targets of the USA (see the Rand Corporation study), i.e. the Germans, "Anglo-Saxons".

I'm a simple man and I thought the following - "The Anglo-Saxons, known in Old English as the “Angul-Seaxan”, shaped much of the English language, culture, and identity. Descended from a hotchpotch of Germanic peoples who migrated to parts of Britain, they inhabited and ruled territories in England and Wales for six centuries." - from here (https://www.thecollector.com/who-were-the-anglo-saxons/)

Also - you could say today it is (as you stated) - "the UK, the USA, Canada, Australia and New-Zealand" but it's easier to sat, The Five Eyes.

Kryztian's post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1520631&viewfull=1#post1520631) stated this rather accurately IMO.

I would actually point to Die Spinne (the 4th Reich) as the overarching transnational organizing force... still at war with Russia after it's "official" formation after WWII, though it's roots go back decades before.

Thank you Chester. I read through the link (from here) you provided, and it provides very interesting history snippets, a lot of them unknown to me. The following passage is not correct:

“Old English evolved mainly from other Germanic languages, including Old Friesian, and Old High German.”

That is not the case.

Old English (as a mix of the old "Anglish" and "Saxon” dialects of "Old West Germanic") is akin to but not evolved from their sister "Old West Germanic" dialects such as "Old Friesian", "Old Low Frankish" (which evolved into Dutch) and other "Old Low West Germanic" dialects which were dialects spoken in the area roughly from Cologne northwards into present-day Denmark and westwards up to the channel.

This "sisterhood" also included "Old High German" (which evolved into German) being a generic name for a number of "Old High West Germanic" dialects.

The difference between Low and High West Germanic can be illustrated by the Low Germanic forms "town" and "pound" in English, similar to the Dutch cognates "tuin" (meaning "garden", as in so many -ton place names in the UK) and "pond", as opposed to the High Germanic cognate forms "Zaun" (pronounce as you would "tsown" in English; meaning "hedge") and "Pfund" (notice the presence of these "s" and "f" sounds, absent from the Low West Germanic). (Incidentally, the choice of these adjectives "low" and "high" is literally geographical: the dialects of the plains and the dialects of the mountains).

They are all (Old) "West Germanic". Next to (Old) "West Germanic" there is Old "North Germanic" and Old "East Germanic". ("South Germanic" never existed.) North Germanic consist of Old Norse and other "Northern" dialects evolving into present-day Icelandic, Norwegian, Swedish and Danish. There is at present no descendant from "Old "East Germanic". It existed at the end of Antiquity as a fully developed and literary language called Gothic in the area of present-day Romania (the Gospels being translated into Gothic), as an overlay on the Latin-derived dialects spoken there, who eventually survived and evolved into present-day Romanian.

All three groups:
(1) the West Germanic group (with as present-day member “languages” (recognised as such internationally or at least nationally) English, Dutch, Afrikaans and Frisian),
(2) the North Germanic group (Icelandic, Norwegian, Swedish and Danish) and
(3) the extinct East Germanic,
ultimately derived – as sister language family branches – from their "mother" (Proto-)Germanic, one of the language families of the Indo-European language macro family.

We should distinguish Germanic (a purely linguistic term) from German (a linguistic, historical, cultural and political term). English – and hence Anglo-Saxon – is a Germanic language. It is not German. Conversely Anglo-Saxon relates to English (as well as to the "Anglish" and "Saxon" dialects of Old Low West German) and not to German.

This distinction is not pointless, and justifies my critical comment on Kryztian’s inclusion of German in the meaning of the term "Anglo-Saxon" used by President Putin. This inclusion is linguistically incorrect and unwarranted by the usual understanding of the meaning of "Anglo-Saxon" according to the dictionary.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1576231846773301253
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Chronicle of Battles on October 1, 2022

By mid-October 1 it was clear that Russian forces had failed to turn
the situation in Lyman.
> AFU concentrated their efforts on three road segments: Lyman
- Zarichne, Torske - Kreminna, and Torske - Svatove. Having
correctly allocated forces, AFU concentrated on cutting the lines of
communication of the Russian forces.

- At the same time, the Russian defensive lines in Lyman itself,
Stavky, the northern outskirts of Yampil, and along the «Road of
Life» continued to be pressed through.

By noon on October 1, AFU had managed to physically cut off
the Torske - Svatove road and contain the Russian Armed Forces
in Terny area.

# Ukrainian flag was raised at the western entrance to Lyman. At
least 2096 of the town was controlled by the enemy by then.

Fighting shifted briefly to the centre and eastern part of Lyman,
the southern outskirts of Stavky, and the northern outskirts of
Yampil. Communication between Torske and Lyman garrison was blocked by fire.


Following strikes by the Russian Armed Forces on Zarichne(
Kirovsk), which was entered by Ukrainian formations, a corridor was
broken through. Withdrawal of troops to Torske began through it.

After the withdrawal, the bridge over the Zherebets River was
blown up.

- Torske - Kreminna road is under constant AFU fire control,
with Ukrainian manoeuvre groups manoeuvring groups trying to tie
up Russian units with combat.

Despite the measures taken by the Russian command, it has at
best succeeded in slowing the advance of the Ukrainian forces. It
was not possible to turn the tide in the battle for Lyman. On
October 1, 2022, after 20 days of heavy fighting, the Russian forces
had to abandon the town.

#digest #map #Russia #Ukraine #video


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[Ravenlocke]

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[Michel Leclerc]

PUTIN DECLARES HOLY WAR ON WESTERN SATANISM! INVOKES JESUS!

Posted By: jensingr
Date: Friday, 30-Sep-2022 20:20:55
www.rumormill.news/208539

Putin declares holy war on Western 'satanism'

"They [the West] are moving toward open Satanism," he said in a speech broadcast to millions online.

Western elites were teaching "sexual deviation" to children who changed their gender, he said. "We're fighting for historical Russia, to protect our children and grandchildren from this experiment to change their souls," he added.

Putin invoked Jesus by name to bear witness to his "truth" and portrayed himself in messianic terms.

"I believe in the spiritual power of the Russian people and my spirit is its spirit, the suffering of the people is my suffering," he said.

"The destruction of the Western hegemony is irreversible," Putin added, as he neared the climax of his oration.

Putin also blamed "Anglo-Saxons", referring to the UK and US, for blowing up two Russian gas pipelines to Germany this week — in a potential casus belli with Nato.

https://euobserver.com/world/156188
______________________________________________

The MSM just do not give up by their vile misrepresentations spewing scorn at every opportunity.

The MSM should be held to account.

Thank you, Snoweagle. Considering the tone of the EuObserver, I hope we can soon have the literal transcript of President Putin’s speech and translate it.

[Michel Leclerc]

Russia interrupts a NATO narrative livestream for an important message

JB0QyDIcISI
They even have the courtesy to say thank you & good luck at the end of their international geopolitical trolling :Angel:

Thank you, Pounamuknight. Could you or another member briefly explain what happened here technically speaking? Was this an interruption of a Russian broadcast quoting Stoltenberg?

[Bill Ryan]

PUTIN DECLARES HOLY WAR ON WESTERN SATANISM! INVOKES JESUS!

Posted By: jensingr
Date: Friday, 30-Sep-2022 20:20:55
www.rumormill.news/208539 (http://www.rumormill.news/208539)

Putin declares holy war on Western 'satanism'

"They [the West] are moving toward open Satanism," he said in a speech broadcast to millions online.

Western elites were teaching "sexual deviation" to children who changed their gender, he said. "We're fighting for historical Russia, to protect our children and grandchildren from this experiment to change their souls," he added.

Putin invoked Jesus by name to bear witness to his "truth" and portrayed himself in messianic terms.

"I believe in the spiritual power of the Russian people and my spirit is its spirit, the suffering of the people is my suffering," he said.

"The destruction of the Western hegemony is irreversible," Putin added, as he neared the climax of his oration.

Putin also blamed "Anglo-Saxons", referring to the UK and US, for blowing up two Russian gas pipelines to Germany this week — in a potential casus belli with Nato.

https://euobserver.com/world/156188
______________________________________________

The MSM just do not give up by their vile misrepresentations spewing scorn at every opportunity.

The MSM should be held to account.

Thank you, Snoweagle. Considering the tone of the EuObserver, I hope we can soon have the literal transcript of President Putin’s speech and translate it.The whole thing is here. I'll copy it verbatim for those who can't access the Kremlin website. It's an extremely strong speech by any standards.

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/69465

President of Russia Vladimir Putin: Citizens of Russia, citizens of the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics, residents of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, deputies of the State Duma, senators of the Russian Federation,As you know, referendums have been held in the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics and the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. The ballots have been counted and the results have been announced. The people have made their unequivocal choice.

Today we will sign treaties on the accession of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Lugansk People’s Republic, Zaporozhye Region and Kherson Region to the Russian Federation. I have no doubt that the Federal Assembly will support the constitutional laws on the accession to Russia and the establishment of four new regions, our new constituent entities of the Russian Federation, because this is the will of millions of people.
(Applause.)

It is undoubtedly their right, an inherent right sealed in Article 1 of the UN Charter, which directly states the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples.

I repeat, it is an inherent right of the people. It is based on our historical affinity, and it is that right that led generations of our predecessors, those who built and defended Russia for centuries since the period of Ancient Rus, to victory.

Here in Novorossiya, [Pyotr] Rumyantsev, [Alexander] Suvorov and [Fyodor] Ushakov fought their battles, and Catherine the Great and [Grigory] Potyomkin founded new cities. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers fought here to the bitter end during the Great Patriotic War.

We will always remember the heroes of the Russian Spring, those who refused to accept the neo-Nazi coup d'état in Ukraine in 2014, all those who died for the right to speak their native language, to preserve their culture, traditions and religion, and for the very right to live. We remember the soldiers of Donbass, the martyrs of the “Odessa Khatyn,” the victims of inhuman terrorist attacks carried out by the Kiev regime. We commemorate volunteers and militiamen, civilians, children, women, senior citizens, Russians, Ukrainians, people of various nationalities; popular leader of Donetsk Alexander Zakharchenko; military commanders Arsen Pavlov and Vladimir Zhoga, Olga Kochura and Alexei Mozgovoy; prosecutor of the Lugansk Republic Sergei Gorenko; paratrooper Nurmagomed Gadzhimagomedov and all our soldiers and officers who died a hero’s death during the special military operation. They are heroes.
(Applause.)

Heroes of great Russia. Please join me in a minute of silence to honour their memory.

(Minute of silence.)

Thank you.

Behind the choice of millions of residents in the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics, in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, is our common destiny and thousand-year history. People have passed this spiritual connection on to their children and grandchildren. Despite all the trials they endured, they carried the love for Russia through the years. This is something no one can destroy. That is why both older generations and young people – those who were born after the tragic collapse of the Soviet Union – have voted for our unity, for our common future.

In 1991 in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, representatives of the party elite of that time made a decision to terminate the Soviet Union, without asking ordinary citizens what they wanted, and people suddenly found themselves cut off from their homeland. This tore apart and dismembered our national community and triggered a national catastrophe. Just like the government quietly demarcated the borders of Soviet republics, acting behind the scenes after the 1917 revolution, the last leaders of the Soviet Union, contrary to the direct expression of the will of the majority of people in the referendum of 1991, destroyed our great country, and simply made the people in the former republics face this as an accomplished fact.

I can admit that they didn’t even know what they were doing and what consequences their actions would have in the end. But it doesn't matter now. There is no Soviet Union anymore; we cannot return to the past. Actually, Russia no longer needs it today; this isn’t our ambition. But there is nothing stronger than the determination of millions of people who, by their culture, religion, traditions, and language, consider themselves part of Russia, whose ancestors lived in a single country for centuries. There is nothing stronger than their determination to return to their true historical homeland.

For eight long years, people in Donbass were subjected to genocide, shelling and blockades; in Kherson and Zaporozhye, a criminal policy was pursued to cultivate hatred for Russia, for everything Russian. Now too, during the referendums, the Kiev regime threatened schoolteachers, women who worked in election commissions with reprisals and death. Kiev threatened millions of people who came to express their will with repression. But the people of Donbass, Zaporozhye and Kherson weren’t broken, and they had their say.

I want the Kiev authorities and their true handlers in the West to hear me now, and I want everyone to remember this: the people living in Lugansk and Donetsk, in Kherson and Zaporozhye have become our citizens, forever.
(Applause.)

We call on the Kiev regime to immediately cease fire and all hostilities; to end the war it unleashed back in 2014 and return to the negotiating table. We are ready for this, as we have said more than once. But the choice of the people in Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson will not be discussed. The decision has been made, and Russia will not betray it. (Applause.) Kiev’s current authorities should respect this free expression of the people’s will; there is no other way. This is the only way to peace.

We will defend our land with all the forces and resources we have, and we will do everything we can to ensure the safety of our people. This is the great liberating mission of our nation.

We will definitely rebuild the destroyed cities and towns, the residential buildings, schools, hospitals, theatres and museums. We will restore and develop industrial enterprises, factories, infrastructure, as well as the social security, pension, healthcare and education systems.

We will certainly work to improve the level of security. Together we will make sure that citizens in the new regions can feel the support of all the people of Russia, of the entire nation, all the republics, territories and regions of our vast Motherland.
(Applause.)

Friends, colleagues,

Today I would like to address our soldiers and officers who are taking part in the special military operation, the fighters of Donbass and Novorossiya, those who went to military recruitment offices after receiving a call-up paper under the executive order on partial mobilisation, and those who did this voluntarily, answering the call of their hearts. I would like to address their parents, wives and children, to tell them what our people are fighting for, what kind of enemy we are up against, and who is pushing the world into new wars and crises and deriving blood-stained benefits from this tragedy.

Our compatriots, our brothers and sisters in Ukraine who are part of our united people have seen with their own eyes what the ruling class of the so-called West have prepared for humanity as a whole. They have dropped their masks and shown what they are really made of.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, the West decided that the world and all of us would permanently accede to its dictates. In 1991, the West thought that Russia would never rise after such shocks and would fall to pieces on its own. This almost happened. We remember the horrible 1990s, hungry, cold and hopeless. But Russia remained standing, came alive, grew stronger and occupied its rightful place in the world.

Meanwhile, the West continued and continues looking for another chance to strike a blow at us, to weaken and break up Russia, which they have always dreamed about, to divide our state and set our peoples against each other, and to condemn them to poverty and extinction. They cannot rest easy knowing that there is such a great country with this huge territory in the world, with its natural wealth, resources and people who cannot and will not do someone else’s bidding.

The West is ready to cross every line to preserve the neo-colonial system which allows it to live off the world, to plunder it thanks to the domination of the dollar and technology, to collect an actual tribute from humanity, to extract its primary source of unearned prosperity, the rent paid to the hegemon. The preservation of this annuity is their main, real and absolutely self-serving motivation. This is why total de-sovereignisation is in their interest. This explains their aggression towards independent states, traditional values and authentic cultures, their attempts to undermine international and integration processes, new global currencies and technological development centres they cannot control. It is critically important for them to force all countries to surrender their sovereignty to the United States.

In certain countries, the ruling elites voluntarily agree to do this, voluntarily agree to become vassals; others are bribed or intimidated. And if this does not work, they destroy entire states, leaving behind humanitarian disasters, devastation, ruins, millions of wrecked and mangled human lives, terrorist enclaves, social disaster zones, protectorates, colonies and semi-colonies. They don't care. All they care about is their own benefit.

I want to underscore again that their insatiability and determination to preserve their unfettered dominance are the real causes of the hybrid war that the collective West is waging against Russia. They do not want us to be free; they want us to be a colony. They do not want equal cooperation; they want to loot. They do not want to see us a free society, but a mass of soulless slaves.

They see our thought and our philosophy as a direct threat. That is why they target our philosophers for assassination. Our culture and art present a danger to them, so they are trying to ban them. Our development and prosperity are also a threat to them because competition is growing. They do not want or need Russia, but we do.
(Applause.)

I would like to remind you that in the past, ambitions of world domination have repeatedly shattered against the courage and resilience of our people. Russia will always be Russia. We will continue to defend our values and our Motherland.

The West is counting on impunity, on being able to get away with anything. As a matter of fact, this was actually the case until recently. Strategic security agreements have been trashed; agreements reached at the highest political level have been declared tall tales; firm promises not to expand NATO to the east gave way to dirty deception as soon as our former leaders bought into them; missile defence, intermediate-range and shorter-range missile treaties have been unilaterally dismantled under far-fetched pretexts.

And all we hear is, the West is insisting on a rules-based order. Where did that come from anyway? Who has ever seen these rules? Who agreed or approved them? Listen, this is just a lot of nonsense, utter deceit, double standards, or even triple standards! They must think we’re stupid.

Russia is a great thousand-year-old power, a whole civilisation, and it is not going to live by such makeshift, false rules.
(Applause.)

It was the so-called West that trampled on the principle of the inviolability of borders, and now it is deciding, at its own discretion, who has the right to self-determination and who does not, who is unworthy of it. It is unclear what their decisions are based on or who gave them the right to decide in the first place. They just assumed it.

That is why the choice of the people in Crimea, Sevastopol, Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson makes them so furiously angry. The West does not have any moral right to weigh in, or even utter a word about freedom of democracy. It does not and it never did.

Western elites not only deny national sovereignty and international law. Their hegemony has pronounced features of totalitarianism, despotism and apartheid. They brazenly divide the world into their vassals – the so-called civilised countries – and all the rest, who, according to the designs of today's Western racists, should be added to the list of barbarians and savages. False labels like “rogue country” or “authoritarian regime” are already available, and are used to stigmatise entire nations and states, which is nothing new. There is nothing new in this: deep down, the Western elites have remained the same colonisers. They discriminate and divide peoples into the top tier and the rest.

We have never agreed to and will never agree to such political nationalism and racism. What else, if not racism, is the Russophobia being spread around the world? What, if not racism, is the West’s dogmatic conviction that its civilisation and neoliberal culture is an indisputable model for the entire world to follow? “You’re either with us or against us.” It even sounds strange.

Western elites are even shifting repentance for their own historical crimes on everyone else, demanding that the citizens of their countries and other peoples confess to things they have nothing to do with at all, for example, the period of colonial conquests.

It is worth reminding the West that it began its colonial policy back in the Middle Ages, followed by the worldwide slave trade, the genocide of Indian tribes in America, the plunder of India and Africa, the wars of England and France against China, as a result of which it was forced to open its ports to the opium trade. What they did was get entire nations hooked on drugs and purposefully exterminated entire ethnic groups for the sake of grabbing land and resources, hunting people like animals. This is contrary to human nature, truth, freedom and justice.

While we – we are proud that in the 20th century our country led the anti-colonial movement, which opened up opportunities for many peoples around the world to make progress, reduce poverty and inequality, and defeat hunger and disease.

To emphasise, one of the reasons for the centuries-old Russophobia, the Western elites’ unconcealed animosity toward Russia is precisely the fact that we did not allow them to rob us during the period of colonial conquests and forced the Europeans to trade with us on mutually beneficial terms. This was achieved by creating a strong centralised state in Russia, which grew and got stronger based on the great moral values ​​of Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Buddhism, as well as Russian culture and the Russian word that were open to all.

There were numerous plans to invade Russia. Such attempts were made during the Time of Troubles in the 17th century and in the period of ordeals after the 1917 revolution. All of them failed. The West managed to grab hold of Russia’s wealth only in the late 20th century, when the state had been destroyed. They called us friends and partners, but they treated us like a colony, using various schemes to pump trillions of dollars out of the country. We remember. We have not forgotten anything.

A few days ago, people in Donetsk and Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye declared their support for restoring our historical unity. Thank you!
(Applause.)

Western countries have been saying for centuries that they bring freedom and democracy to other nations. Nothing could be further from the truth. Instead of bringing democracy they suppressed and exploited, and instead of giving freedom they enslaved and oppressed. The unipolar world is inherently anti-democratic and unfree; it is false and hypocritical through and through.

The United States is the only country in the world that has used nuclear weapons twice, destroying the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. And they created a precedent.

Recall that during WWII the United States and Britain reduced Dresden, Hamburg, Cologne and many other German cities to rubble, without the least military necessity. It was done ostentatiously and, to repeat, without any military necessity. They had only one goal, as with the nuclear bombing of Japanese cities: to intimidate our country and the rest of the world.

The United States left a deep scar in the memory of the people of Korea and Vietnam with their carpet bombings and use of napalm and chemical weapons.

It actually continues to occupy Germany, Japan, the Republic of Korea and other countries, which they cynically refer to as equals and allies. Look now, what kind of alliance is that? The whole world knows that the top officials in these countries are being spied on and that their offices and homes are bugged. It is a disgrace, a disgrace for those who do this and for those who, like slaves, silently and meekly swallow this arrogant behaviour.

They call the orders and threats they make to their vassals Euro-Atlantic solidarity, and the creation of biological weapons and the use of human test subjects, including in Ukraine, noble medical research.

It is their destructive policies, wars and plunder that have unleashed today’s massive wave of migrants. Millions of people endure hardships and humiliation or die by the thousands trying to reach Europe.

They are exporting grain from Ukraine now. Where are they taking it under the guise of ensuring the food security of the poorest countries? Where is it going? They are taking it to the self-same European countries. Only five percent has been delivered to the poorest countries. More cheating and naked deception again.

In effect, the American elite is using the tragedy of these people to weaken its rivals, to destroy nation states. This goes for Europe and for the identities of France, Italy, Spain and other countries with centuries-long histories.

Washington demands more and more sanctions against Russia and the majority of European politicians obediently go along with it. They clearly understand that by pressuring the EU to completely give up Russian energy and other resources, the United States is practically pushing Europe toward deindustrialisation in a bid to get its hands on the entire European market. These European elites understand everything – they do, but they prefer to serve the interests of others. This is no longer servility but direct betrayal of their own peoples. God bless, it is up to them.

But the Anglo-Saxons believe sanctions are no longer enough and now they have turned to subversion. It seems incredible but it is a fact – by causing explosions on Nord Stream’s international gas pipelines passing along the bottom of the Baltic Sea, they have actually embarked on the destruction of Europe’s entire energy infrastructure. It is clear to everyone who stands to gain. Those who benefit are responsible, of course.

The dictates of the US are backed up by crude force, on the law of the fist. Sometimes it is beautifully wrapped sometimes there is no wrapping at all but the gist is the same – the law of the fist. Hence, the deployment and maintenance of hundreds of military bases in all corners of the world, NATO expansion, and attempts to cobble together new military alliances, such as AUKUS and the like. Much is being done to create a Washington-Seoul-Tokyo military-political chain. All states that possess or aspire to genuine strategic sovereignty and are capable of challenging Western hegemony, are automatically declared enemies.

These are the principles that underlie US and NATO military doctrines that require total domination. Western elites are presenting their neocolonialist plans with the same hypocrisy, claiming peaceful intentions, talking about some kind of deterrence. This evasive word migrates from one strategy to another but really only means one thing – undermining any and all sovereign centres of power.

We have already heard about the deterrence of Russia, China and Iran. I believe next in line are other countries of Asia, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East, as well as current US partners and allies. After all, we know that when they are displeased, they introduce sanctions against their allies as well – against this or that bank or company. This is their practice and they will expand it. They have everything in their sights, including our next-door neighbours – the CIS countries.

At the same time, the West has clearly been engaged in wishful thinking for a long time. In launching the sanctions blitzkrieg against Russia, for example, they thought that they could once again line up the whole world at their command. As it turns out, however, such a bright prospect does not excite everyone – other than complete political masochists and admirers of other unconventional forms of international relations. Most states refuse to ”snap a salute“ and instead choose the sensible path of cooperation with Russia.

The West clearly did not expect such insubordination. They simply got used to acting according to a template, to grab whatever they please, by blackmail, bribery, intimidation, and convinced themselves that these methods would work forever, as if they had fossilised in the past.

Such self-confidence is a direct product not only of the notorious concept of exceptionalism – although it never ceases to amaze – but also of the real ”information hunger“ in the West. The truth has been drowned in an ocean of myths, illusions and fakes, using extremely aggressive propaganda, lying like Goebbels. The more unbelievable the lie, the quicker people will believe it – that is how they operate, according to this principle.

But people cannot be fed with printed dollars and euros. You can't feed them with those pieces of paper, and the virtual, inflated capitalisation of western social media companies can't heat their homes. Everything I am saying is important. And what I just said is no less so: you can't feed anyone with paper – you need food; and you can't heat anyone’s home with these inflated capitalisations – you need energy.

That is why politicians in Europe have to convince their fellow citizens to eat less, take a shower less often and dress warmer at home. And those who start asking fair questions like “Why is that, in fact?” are immediately declared enemies, extremists and radicals. They point back at Russia and say: that is the source of all your troubles. More lies.

I want to make special note of the fact that there is every reason to believe that the Western elites are not going to look for constructive ways out of the global food and energy crisis that they and they alone are to blame for, as a result of their long-term policy, dating back long before our special military operation in Ukraine, in Donbass. They have no intention of solving the problems of injustice and inequality. I am afraid they would rather use other formulas they are more comfortable with.

And here it is important to recall that the West bailed itself out of its early 20th century challenges with World War I. Profits from World War II helped the United States finally overcome the Great Depression and become the largest economy in the world, and to impose on the planet the power of the dollar as a global reserve currency. And the 1980s crisis – things came to a head in the 1980s again – the West emerged from it unscathed largely by appropriating the inheritance and resources of the collapsed and defunct Soviet Union. That's a fact.

Now, in order to free itself from the latest web of challenges, they need to dismantle Russia as well as other states that choose a sovereign path of development, at all costs, to be able to further plunder other nations’ wealth and use it to patch their own holes. If this does not happen, I cannot rule out that they will try to trigger a collapse of the entire system, and blame everything on that, or, God forbid, decide to use the old formula of economic growth through war.

Russia is aware of its responsibility to the international community and will make every effort to ensure that cooler heads prevail.

The current neocolonial model is ultimately doomed; this much is obvious. But I repeat that its real masters will cling to it to the end. They simply have nothing to offer the world except to maintain the same system of plundering and racketeering.

They do not give a damn about the natural right of billions of people, the majority of humanity, to freedom and justice, the right to determine their own future. They have already moved on to the radical denial of moral, religious, and family values.

Let’s answer some very simple questions for ourselves. Now I would like to return to what I said and want to address also all citizens of the country – not just the colleagues that are in the hall – but all citizens of Russia: do we want to have here, in our country, in Russia, “parent number one, parent number two and parent number three” (they have completely lost it!) instead of mother and father? Do we want our schools to impose on our children, from their earliest days in school, perversions that lead to degradation and extinction? Do we want to drum into their heads the ideas that certain other genders exist along with women and men and to offer them gender reassignment surgery? Is that what we want for our country and our children? This is all unacceptable to us. We have a different future of our own.

Let me repeat that the dictatorship of the Western elites targets all societies, including the citizens of Western countries themselves. This is a challenge to all. This complete renunciation of what it means to be human, the overthrow of faith and traditional values, and the suppression of freedom are coming to resemble a “religion in reverse” – pure Satanism. Exposing false messiahs, Jesus Christ said in the Sermon on the Mount: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” These poisonous fruits are already obvious to people, and not only in our country but also in all countries, including many people in the West itself.

The world has entered a period of a fundamental, revolutionary transformation. New centres of power are emerging. They represent the majority – the majority! – of the international community. They are ready not only to declare their interests but also to protect them. They see in multipolarity an opportunity to strengthen their sovereignty, which means gaining genuine freedom, historical prospects, and the right to their own independent, creative and distinctive forms of development, to a harmonious process.

As I have already said, we have many like-minded people in Europe and the United States, and we feel and see their support. An essentially emancipatory, anti-colonial movement against unipolar hegemony is taking shape in the most diverse countries and societies. Its power will only grow with time. It is this force that will determine our future geopolitical reality.

Friends,

Today, we are fighting for a just and free path, first of all for ourselves, for Russia, in order to leave dictate and despotism in the past. I am convinced that countries and peoples understand that a policy based on the exceptionalism of whoever it may be and the suppression of other cultures and peoples is inherently criminal, and that we must close this shameful chapter. The ongoing collapse of Western hegemony is irreversible. And I repeat: things will never be the same.

The battlefield to which destiny and history have called us is a battlefield for our people, for the great historical Russia. (Applause.) For the great historical Russia, for future generations, our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. We must protect them against enslavement and monstrous experiments that are designed to cripple their minds and souls.

Today, we are fighting so that it would never occur to anyone that Russia, our people, our language, or our culture can be erased from history. Today, we need a consolidated society, and this consolidation can only be based on sovereignty, freedom, creation, and justice. Our values ​​are humanity, mercy and compassion.

And I want to close with the words of a true patriot Ivan Ilyin: “If I consider Russia my Motherland, that means that I love as a Russian, contemplate and think, sing and speak as a Russian; that I believe in the spiritual strength of the Russian people. Its spirit is my spirit; its destiny is my destiny; its suffering is my grief; and its prosperity is my joy.”

Behind these words stands a glorious spiritual choice, which, for more than a thousand years of Russian statehood, was followed by many generations of our ancestors. Today, we are making this choice; the citizens of the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics and the residents of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions have made this choice. They made the choice to be with their people, to be with their Motherland, to share in its destiny, and to be victorious together with it.

The truth is with us, and behind us is Russia!
(Applause.)

[Eva2]

'EMERGENCY! This is heading for ALL OUT WAR and Putin knows it. | Redacted with Clayton Morris'

Moments ago, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed and delivered the NATO application. Moments earlier Russian President Vladimir Putin officially annexed the four regions of the Donbass. This is heading for WW3.'

This video is from yesterday:

https://rumble.com/v1m5q0n-emergency-this-is-heading-for-all-out-war-and-putin-knows-it.-redacted-with.html (https://rumble.com/v1m5q0n-emergency-this-is-heading-for-all-out-war-and-putin-knows-it.-redacted-with.html?fbclid=IwAR3hbTAfWezCTVo5vDP4wXwhUrrYfCswEgkdkpTdN8ZbCJZ4vQU7QUwlod8)
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[Spiral]

Let me repeat that the dictatorship of the Western elites targets all societies, including the citizens of Western countries themselves. This is a challenge to all. This complete renunciation of what it means to be human, the overthrow of faith and traditional values, and the suppression of freedom are coming to resemble a “religion in reverse” – pure Satanism. Exposing false messiahs, Jesus Christ said in the Sermon on the Mount: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” These poisonous fruits are already obvious to people, and not only in our country but also in all countries, including many people in the West itself.

THIS is the key, it's a 100% spiritual battle, and he knows it, so does the entire political class he heads and their nation, and many of us know it too.

[Michel Leclerc]

What an extraordinary speech. Copy it and send it to all your friends.

[Spiral]

What an extraordinary speech. Copy it and send it to all your friends.

As I've said to all my friends, he never lies.

Unlike all our "leaders" that do nothing but.

[Bill Ryan]

What an extraordinary speech. Copy it and send it to all your friends.Yes. This was a speech by the new Leader of the Free World.

[Ravenlocke]

35 minute video, where Alex gives his opinion in regards to the withdrawal of the Russian garrison from Liman, and other topics.

Liman is a small town of no strategic importance.
In the last three weeks the Russian troops consisting of about 500 men, were able to help deter the advancement of the Ukranian troops.
Liman has served it’s purpose so now it’s time to move the garrison elsewhere, mainly South towards Zaporozhye and Kherson.
Next he talks about Putin signing the accession treaties for the four regions.

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1576290521336909824
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[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1575903182617989120
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https://twitter.com/Sprinter99880/status/1576305043338252293
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https://twitter.com/Sprinter99880/status/1576307251585101824
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https://twitter.com/Hawkeye1745/status/1576261892498403328
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https://twitter.com/Sprinter99880/status/1576272830836006912
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https://twitter.com/anon_candanga/status/1576180892334260226
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[norman]

Pure Satanism . . . . you nailed it Vlad.

[TargeT]

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Hmm, seems like a payment for something...

[Ravenlocke]

https://sputniknews.com/20221001/us-releases-nephews-of-venezuelan-presidents-wife-in-exchange-for-seven-americans-1101424043.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

US Releases Nephews of Venezuelan President's Wife in Exchange for Seven Americans

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Seven US nationals who were imprisoned in Venezuela have been released and will soon reunite with their families, US President Joe Biden said on Saturday.


"Today, after years of being wrongfully detained in Venezuela, we are bringing home Jorge Toledo, Tomeu Vadell, Alirio Zambrano, Jose Luis Zambrano, Jose Pereira, Matthew Heath, and Osman Khan," Biden said in a statement. "These individuals will soon be reunited with their families and back in the arms of their loved ones where they belong."
He also thanked civil servants across the US for their dedicated work that made the release possible.
"Today, we celebrate that seven families will be whole once more. To all the families who are still suffering and separated from their loved ones who are wrongfully detained – know that we remain dedicated to securing their release," the statement stressed.
Biden noted that preventing other US citizens from being held hostage or wrongfully detained in other countries is one of the priorities of his administration.
Echoing Biden's remarks, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken noted a statement that "more work" needs to be done in regards to Americans detained abroad, underscoring that the Biden administration would forge ahead on the matter.
The prisoner swap was later confirmed by the Venezuelan Communications Minister Freddy Nanez.
Haji Bashir Noorzai - Sputnik International, 1920, 19.09.2022
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US Releases Closest Ally of Taliban Founder in Latest Guantanamo Prisoner Swap
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The release, which is part of a prisoner swap for two nephews of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro's wife, is being hailed as one of the largest trades of American citizens under the Biden White House.
Reports indicate that Vadell, Toledo, Pereira, Zambrano and Luis Zambrano had been detained in Venezuela after traveling to the country in 2017 to attend a meeting with the state-run PDVSA oil giant, which serves as the parent company of Citgo. The five Americans had been employed by the Houston-based firm.
Heath had been in Venezuelan custody since his 2020 arrest, whereas Khan had been taken into custody in January. The Maduro relatives had been held in the US on drug smuggling charges after the pair were arrested in Haiti as part of a sting orchestrated by the US Drug Enforcement Administration in 2015.


Ukrainian Central Bank to Request $1.3Bln in Emergency Aid From IMF

The Ukrainian National Bank (NBU) is planning to request $1.3 billion in additional emergency aid from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) as part of the global lender's rapid financing instrument.

"On 30 September 2022, the IMF’s Executive Board approved a new window under its emergency financing instruments, which will allow Ukraine to request a new disbursement under Rapid Financing Instrument. Ukraine is planning to make use of this new window and will request about USD 1.3 billion in additional aid from the IMF," the NBU said.

The IMF's financing instrument provides emergency aid to countries that have "urgent balance of payments needs arising from the food crisis" worldwide, according to the Ukrainian regulator.

"We also hope that work on a new full-fledged IMF program for Ukraine starts as soon as possible. We are ready to implement such a program, even in the face of uncertainty as the war grinds on," NBU Governor Kyrylo Shevchenko noted, adding that he expected that Ukraine would receive the aid as early as in October.

In March, the IMF provided $1.4 billion to Ukraine under the same mechanism to mitigate the economic impact of conflict as Russia began a military operation in February, responding to calls for help from the breakaway republics of Donetsk and Luhansk. Western countries and some organizations, including the IMF, responded by enhancing their financial support for Ukraine, among other things.

[pounamuknight]

Russia interrupts a NATO narrative livestream for an important message

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They even have the courtesy to say thank you & good luck at the end of their international geopolitical trolling :Angel:

Thank you, Pounamuknight. Could you or another member briefly explain what happened here technically speaking? Was this an interruption of a Russian broadcast quoting Stoltenberg?

Russian or pro-Russian hackers hacked into a NATO HQ press conference on DW and played part of Putin's speech on the positive results from the Donbas referendum

The entire NATO press conference, for context:

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[Justplain]

Does no one here question the logic of the Russians to potentially use nukes to defend their illegitimate land grab in the Ukraine? Even if you think your neighbour practices satanism, does that justify stealing his backyard by force? How can a man who invades be called the leader of the free world? I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread.

[Mike Gorman]

The Russian forces really need to stop abandoning their own people, this looks awful from a psychological/morale point of view, the Ukraine forces have zero compunction to horribly kill pro-Russian civilians - this is huge mistake on the Russian part, if they are intent on liberating Donbass they need to go 'all-in' and wipe out the NATO/Ukraine forces, I feel for the folks left behind, where do they have to run to?

[Blastolabs]

Does no one here question the logic of the Russians to potentially use nukes to defend their illegitimate land grab in the Ukraine? Even if you think your neighbour practices satanism, does that justify stealing his backyard by force? How can a man who invades be called the leader of the free world? I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread.

What specifically leads you to say that this is an illegitimate land grab?

At this point do you realize what would happen if Russia just left Ukraine a week ago and abandoned all the civilians in contested regions?

How do you think Ukraine would treat Russian speaking Ukrainians in the region? Do you think they would be left alive?
Are you aware of what has been happening in Ukraine since 2014?

What do the people in the region have to say?
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1576058148049235968

Putin has not used nukes, so not sure why you are criticizing Russia for something that has not happened?

[Justplain]

Does no one here question the logic of the Russians to potentially use nukes to defend their illegitimate land grab in the Ukraine? Even if you think your neighbour practices satanism, does that justify stealing his backyard by force? How can a man who invades be called the leader of the free world? I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread.

What specifically leads you to say that this is an illegitimate land grab?

At this point do you realize what would happen if Russia just left Ukraine a week ago and abandoned all the civilians in contested regions?

How do you think Ukraine would treat Russian speaking Ukrainians in the region? Do you think they would be left alive?
Are you aware of what has been happening in Ukraine since 2014?

What do the people in the region have to say?
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1576058148049235968

Putin has not used nukes, so not sure why you are criticizing Russia for something that has not happened?

Its an illegitimate land grab because all of the republics of the ussr accepted the borders at the dissolution of the ussr. Also the Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security guarantees that have clearly not been honored.

I would think that a peacekeeping force could have been deployed to ensure the security of russian speaking people in contested regions, and this could have been achieved without an invasion.

What of the loyal Ukrainians who have have had to abandon their homes and communities that have been flattened by the Russian artillery? What of those who have died or been abused by Russian forces? That is all western propaganda you say. Sure.

And regarding those referenda, what legitimacy can you give a vote in a land controlled by military occupation whose residents have mostly fled, or died, and who vote under duress? Another question is did Russia hold any such referendum in Chechnya before the most recent Chechnyan war? Of course they didnt cuz this is all bull****.

You guys have drunk the Putin koolaid, sorry, but the mass murderer Putin is not the leader of the free world. And the next think we'll see this maniac you idolize dropping nukes in the Ukraine. And you'll likely still support him then. Give your head a shake.

[TargeT]

You guys have drunk the Putin koolaid, sorry, but the mass murderer Putin is not the leader of the free world. And the next think we'll see this maniac you idolize dropping nukes in the Ukraine. And you'll likely still support him then. Give your head a shake.

the whole situation is a glorious example of the power of propaganda....

lazy thinking is very attractive, I can't even get mad at those that fall for it anymore.

[shaberon]

You guys have drunk the Putin koolaid, sorry, but the mass murderer Putin is not the leader of the free world. And the next think we'll see this maniac you idolize dropping nukes in the Ukraine. And you'll likely still support him then. Give your head a shake.


Really?


This is after HIMARS and Cesars were assassinating the actual voting stations??

I don't support anyone, but, if there is someone able to stand up against the U. S. and English, they are on my side.

We cannot yet be sure if King Charles (or is it George, I already can't remember) can establish a Fourth Reich over a few failed German states and some Polish weirdos, but that does not seem to prevent a whole lot of effort being spent. Good luck with that!


You can, of course, commit naval warfare off Bornholm Island about like you can wantonly violate airspace over the eastern U. S. multiple times. Hush money is out there somewhere.


Borrel (https://tass.com/world/1516545) did not like it either:


The fact that the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics and the Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions joined Russia makes ending the conflict in Ukraine practically impossible, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell told Spain’s 24 Horas TV channel on Saturday.

"No one will recognize the annexation of these territories," he insisted. According to the EU’s top diplomat, this decision by the Russian government makes it "practically impossible for the war to end."


Meanwhile, for the English (https://sputniknews.com/20220928/white-house-adviser-uk-eu-economies-to-face-tough-period-in-coming-months-1101294071.html) of the English:

On Friday, UK Chancellor of the Exchequer Kwazi Kwarteng announced a 45 billion pound ($48 billion) tax-cutting package that would benefit the highest earners most, causing concern about unsustainable government borrowing.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) in a statement to Sputnik on Tuesday said the fund is closely following reports about concerning economic developments in the British economy and currently engaged with UK authorities about the matter.


Next year, Volkswagen will probably be made by the Oklahoma Cherokee.

This is after (a) repeal of labor laws and (b) repeal of medical laws after the Maidan coup made Ukraine a cash cow for related western interests. But if this doesn't work, we can just trash Germany and offer their oligarchs tax breaks and other incentives to bring work to the obviously-stagnated U. S. industry.


Remember how only thirty years ago we though it might have been a bad idea to offshore our factories and give General Motors a kingdom on the Isle of Man? And out goes Glass-Steagall.

Only ten years ago, they said you better not make this pipeline through the Dakotas, etc., and so now fracking will come back, and if I remember rightly then the access on this land was already granted, so there is a chance we might earn a small transport fee for the privilege of having chemicals pumped into the ground water that we actually live on. Yay!

I am not sure anyone gets caught holding the bag until Deutsche Bank coughs up its confession. I don't know where we will come up with the $4 Quadrillion. Or how much longer anyone can EU their way around it.

You have pretty much just been promised unending war, if I understand the statement from the entity which was designed to "prevent" it.

[superior88]

RAMZAN KADYROV ON RETREAT FROM KRASNY LIMAN. EVERY MISTAKE HAS ITS NAME AND SURNAME
(https://southfront.org/ramzan-kadyrov-on-retreat-from-krasny-liman-every-mistake-has-its-name-and-surname/)

[Spiral]

You guys have drunk the Putin koolaid, sorry, but the mass murderer Putin is not the leader of the free world. And the next think we'll see this maniac you idolize dropping nukes in the Ukraine. And you'll likely still support him then. Give your head a shake.

the whole situation is a glorious example of the power of propaganda....

lazy thinking is very attractive, I can't even get mad at those that fall for it anymore.

Same here TargeT, it's just depressing that so many people are so ignorant of what has led up to this, and what is really going on. It's not like all the relevant info isn't right here.


:facepalm:

[jaybee]

I would think that a peacekeeping force could have been deployed to ensure the security of russian speaking people in contested regions, and this could have been achieved without an invasion.


I've lifted this paragraph from your previous post to make a comment...

I'm no expert on the Ukraine situation past and present and I'm learning as I go along... but...

I've had a (fairly quick) look to see what the history of Peacekeeping proposals in Ukraine has been over the years and this article written in 2017 seems to be a general guide on it ...

https://warontherocks.com/2017/09/a-u-n-peacekeeping-operation-is-the-only-way-forward-in-ukraine/

beginning with....


Russian President Vladimir Putin’s proposal to send U.N. peacekeepers to Ukraine received a tepid response from the West, but such a mission could very well be a first step in ending the conflict.

it then goes on to expand on Putin's proposal and then outlines other proposals.. none of which have been implemented as far as I know... and we saw earlier in the year not long after the Special Military Operation kicked off that when Zelensky appeared to be moving towards a Peace Agreement...to end military hostilities with Russia - UK PM Boris Johnson was deployed and flown in to scupper it ... what Johnson said to Zelensky to change his mind we will never know but it must have been persuasive (threatening?)...

The Big Picture (IMO) is that the Globalist Elite who have control of NATO and are embedded in Military organizations around the world...... don't want a peaceful solution... in fact want a war with Russia with a view to regime change and taking over the country and it's resources... 'they' have been pushing and provoking Putin and Russia for many years especially with the Military Coup in Ukraine 2014...

In a nut shell... from their point of view - you can only have a One World Government and Global Digital Currency -- you can only have total control of everything if eventually all countries are participating and now it looks like they are going 'all in' to force the situation with Russia - not caring one little bit about how many citizens around the world die or have their lives ruined - in fact they probably welcome the depopulation angle -

To summarize - I believe that NATO (and allies) want war and Putin (and allies) want peace... but Russia will not just roll over and let the Globalists destroy her and take over the land and resources...

so we have a dangerous situation where all our futures are being put at risk...

[Bill Ryan]

The Russian forces really need to stop abandoning their own people, this looks awful from a psychological/morale point of view, the Ukraine forces have zero compunction to horribly kill pro-Russian civilians - this is huge mistake on the Russian part, if they are intent on liberating Donbass they need to go 'all-in' and wipe out the NATO/Ukraine forces, I feel for the folks left behind, where do they have to run to?I believe (but I may be wrong) that Liman was deserted, as well as having little strategic value. I don't think there was anyone actually living there. As best I understand, it's just the Russians being careful (again) and next week much if not all of this will br reversed several times over.

[Bill Ryan]

For the important formal record (about nukes et al), here is Putin's entire speech. It's very well worth following the whole thing.

Everything he said is important to understand, and his "This is not a bluff" concluding comment has been taken wildly (and predictably!) out of context by western media and western politicians.

All the nuclear warmongering and threats have come from the US.
(Supported by Liz Truss in the UK! :facepalm: )

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[Mike Gorman]

Thanks Bill, I have looked further into this and also listened to The Duran's analysis and I had not fully appreciated how deserted this town is, my mistake.

[Gwin Ru]

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... banksters placing their bet on the roulette table:


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https://www.rt.com/news/563890-germany-lambrecht-ukraine-weapons/


German defense minister makes pledge on surprise Ukraine visit

German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht made an unannounced visit to Ukraine on Saturday, where she vowed to provide more military aid in the coming days, including the long-promised Iris-T SLM ground-based air defense system.

“In a few days, we will deliver the very modern Iris-T air defense system,” she announced following a meeting with her Ukrainian counterpart, Aleksey Reznikov, in the Black Sea port city of Odessa.

Berlin initially promised in June to send Kiev at least one Iris-T unit. Ukraine reportedly wants to obtain at least a dozen and has offered to purchase the rest directly from the manufacturer, even though Germany’s own armed forces have yet to receive these systems themselves.

Germany has sent over €743 million ($728 million) worth of arms to Ukraine, including multiple deliveries of self-propelled Gepard anti-aircraft guns and PzH 2000 howitzers, since the start of the conflict in late February.

France to send rejected howitzers to Ukraine – media READ MORE: France to send rejected howitzers to Ukraine – media
Kiev, however, has repeatedly criticized Berlin for supposedly not doing enough and refusing to provide it with Leopard battle tanks and Marder infantry fighting vehicles. Chancellor Olaf Scholz promised in August that Germany's “most modern and efficient equipment” would be supplied to Ukraine “soon,” referring to the Iris-T systems and Cobra artillery radars, but not tanks.

Berlin argues that no other country has so far sent modern tanks, with Lambrecht reiterating on Saturday that Germany “has always made it clear that we will not go it alone in this area,” in order to avoid “escalation.” Instead, Berlin has offered third countries, such as Greece, Slovakia, Slovenia, the Czech Republic, and Poland, to transfer their stockpiles of Soviet-era hardware to Ukraine in exchange for modern German weaponry.

Moscow has long criticized the deliveries of weapons, arguing that they only prolong the conflict and increase the risk of a direct confrontation between Russia and NATO.

[Ravenlocke]

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Ex-advisor to Pentagon chief suggests US, UK might be behind Nord Streams incident

Douglas Macgregor called the notion that Moscow was behind the incident at the pipelines absurd

NEW YORK, October 2. /TASS/. The US and the UK may be behind the explosions at Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines, former advisor to US Defense Secretary in the administration of ex-president of the United States Donald Trump, Douglas Macgregor, said in a conversation with Andrew Napolitano, the presenter of the Judging Freedom podcast.

"You have to look at who are the state actors that have the capability to do this. And that means the [UK’s] Royal Navy and the United States’ Navy <…> I think that’s pretty clear," Macgregor said. He also noted the publication by Poland’s former foreign minister (2007-2014), European parliament member Radoslaw Sikorski, who thanked the United States for damaging the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines on his Twitter page.

Ex-advisor to the Pentagon chief called the notion that Moscow was behind the incident at the pipelines absurd. "The Russians did not do this," he said, adding that Germany’s involvement in the incident was "extremely unlikely" either.

Four Nord Stream gas pipeline leaks have been uncovered, with the most recent one being pinpointed by Sweden’s coast guard. Earlier, the Nord Stream AG company reported that three threads of the Nord Stream 1 and 2 offshore gas pipelines had suffered unprecedented damage on Monday. Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov stated that Moscow was "deeply concerned about the news" and did not rule out that the pipelines’ operation could have been disrupted by an act of sabotage. Swedish seismologists later reported that two explosions had been recorded along the Nord Stream pipelines on Monday. The Danish Energy Agency reported that a large amount of gas had spilled into the sea. Aircraft and ships are barred from approaching the site any closer than five nautical miles.

[Dennis Leahy]

Putin: "The West is ready to cross every line to preserve the neo-colonial system which allows it to live off the world, to plunder it thanks to the domination of the dollar and technology, to collect an actual tribute from humanity, to extract its primary source of unearned prosperity, the rent paid to the hegemon. The preservation of this annuity is their main, real and absolutely self-serving motivation. This is why total de-sovereignisation is in their interest. This explains their aggression towards independent states, traditional values and authentic cultures, their attempts to undermine international and integration processes, new global currencies and technological development centres they cannot control. It is critically important for them to force all countries to surrender their sovereignty to the United States. "

Amazingly, from my observations, only a tiny percentage of US citizens know that this is 100% truth. 99% of US citizens are generally high on inhaled sparkly unicorn fart particles and so engorged on propaganda that they wouldn't know the truth if it kissed them on the lips.

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Putin introduces accession treaties to State Duma for ratification

They were signed in Moscow on September 30, 2022

MOSCOW, October 2. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin introduced the four treaties on accession of the four new regions to Russia to the State Duma for ratification, according to the Duma online database.

"Ratify the treaty between Russia and DPR on accession of Donetsk People’s Republic to Russia as a new region," signed in Moscow on September 30, 2022," one entry reads.

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Duma speaker says bills on accession of new entities to Russia to be considered on Oct. 3

According to Volodin, the integration of Crimea and Sevastopol required "the adoption of around 70 bills"

MOSCOW, October 2. /TASS/. The State Duma (lower house) will consider the drafts of constitutional laws on accession of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (DPR and LPR), and the Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions to Russia, as well as on ratification of respective international treaties, at a plenary meeting on Monday, October 3, Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said in an interview with the host of the "Moscow. Kremlin. Putin" show Pavel Zarubin.

"On Monday we will consider amendments to constitutional law, as well as ratification of international agreements that have been announced, dealing with the development of legal framework, so that each citizen living on the territory of four new entities feels protected, being within the common framework of the law from the viewpoint of both social protection, financial system, and economic space," he said in the program aired on Sunday.

According to Volodin, the integration of Crimea and Sevastopol required "the adoption of around 70 bills."

Earlier on Sunday Russia’s Constitutional Court approved the package of documents on accession of the Donetsk People’s Republic, the Lugansk People’s Republic, the Kherson Region and the Zaporozhye Region to the Russian Federation submitted by Russian President.

From September 23 to September 27, the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and the Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR) as well as the Kherson Region and the Zaporozhye Region held a referendum where the majority of voters opted to join Russia. On Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin and the heads of the DPR and the LPR, the Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions signed treaties on their accession to Russia.

[Ravenlocke]

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Russia not reelected to ICAO Council - Reuters

According to the news agency, Russia did not receive the sufficient number of votes

MOSCOW, October 1. /TASS/. Russia was not reelected to the Executive Council of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), Reuters reported on Saturday.

According to the news agency, Russia did not receive the sufficient number of votes to remain in the council.

On its Twitter page, the ICAO published a list of countries included in the council following the Saturday vote. Within the framework of the first stage of voting, Australia, Brazil, the UK, Germany, Italy, Canada, China, the US, France and Japan were elected.

Earlier, Canadian Minister of Transport Omar Alghabra told Reuters that Canada was going to vote against electing Russia.

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Russia remains ICAO member — Federal Air Transport Agency

The Federal Air Transport Agency said that Russia's withdrawal from the ICAO Council will not affect international flights from Russia to friendly countries


MOSCOW, October 2. /TASS/. Russia retains its right to full membership in the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) and will continue its work through the country's representation at the ICAO, the press service of Russia’s Federal Air Transport Agency (Rosaviatsiya) told reporters on Saturday.

Reuters earlier reported that Russia was not reelected to the ICAO Executive Council. According to it, Russia did not get enough votes to remain at the council. As the Federal Air Transport Agency clarified, Russia received 80 votes, with the required number of votes being 86.

"At the same time, according to the rules of permanent procedures for voting in the council, taking into account the non-election of the 11th member of the council, a re-vote is required. However, the Russian delegation was denied this," the Federal Air Transport Agency said, calling such a decision political. "Russia reserves the right of full membership in the international organization and will continue its work through the representation of Russia in the ICAO, as well as in specialized working groups of the ICAO".

Moreover, the Federal Air Transport Agency added that Russia's withdrawal from the ICAO Council will not affect international flights from Russia to friendly countries. "The Russian Federation will, as before, in its activities adhere to the recommended practices and standards of the ICAO, continuing to ensure high standards of flight safety," the agency said, "The international flights by Russian airlines to friendly countries will not be affected by this decision, as such cooperation is based on bilateral agreements in the field of air communication."

Russia's contribution to the development of international aviation is recognized worldwide, the Federal Air Transport Agency added. The agency recalled that a number of Russian initiatives have been adopted in the ICAO framework as a standard, and many of its proposals are used by states to develop safe international air traffic.





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Fighter aviation of Russian Aerospace Forces downs Ukrainian MiG-29 in Nikolayev region


Over 270 Ukrainian troops eliminated on Nikolayev-Krivoi Rog direction

MOSCOW, October 1. /TASS/. The fighter aviation of Russia’s Aerospace Forces downed a Ukrainian MiG-29 in the vicinity of the Pavlovka populated locality in the Nikolayev region, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Saturday.

"The fighter aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces downed a MiG-29 of Ukraine’s air force in the vicinity of the Pavlovka community in the Nikolayev region," he said.

Nikolayev-Krivoi Rog direction

Russian troops eliminated more than 270 Ukrainian servicemen and five tanks while deflecting the Ukrainian army’s attempt to advance on the Nikolayev-Krivoi Rog direction, Konashenkov said.

"On the Nikolayev-Krivoi Rog direction as a result of deflecting the adversary’s attempt to advance, the units of Russian troops have eliminated over 270 Ukrainian servicemen, five tanks, six infantry combat vehicles, 23 armored combat vehicles and 11 cars over 24 hours," he said.

Krasny Liman

Allied troops pulled out of Krasny Liman in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) while Russia’s forces have eliminated over 200 Ukrainian servicemen on this direction over 24 hours, Spokesman said.

"Due to the emerged threat of encirclement, the allied forces were withdrawn from the Krasny Liman populated locality to more advantageous positions," he said.

According to the military official, Russian troops eliminated more than 200 Ukrainian servicemen, five tanks and nine infantry combat vehicles on the Krasny Liman direction. He specified that despite heavy losses, the adversary brought in reserve troops and continued advancing.

HIMARS, HARM and Tochka-U

Russian air defense systems have eliminated seven HIMARS multiple-launch rocket system rockets, two US-made anti-radiation HARM missiles and one Tochka-U tactical missile over 24 hours, Russian Defense Ministry said.

"Seven rockets from the US-made HIMARS multiple-launch rocket systems and two US-made anti-radiation HARM missiles were eliminated in air near Novaya Kakhovka in the Kherson Region. Additionally, over the populated locality of Liptsy in the Kharkov region a tactical Tochka-U missile was taken down," the spokesman said. He also specified that 14 drones have been eliminated over 24 hours.

According to the Russian Defense Ministry, in all, since the onset of the special military operation, Russia’s Armed Forces have eliminated 310 aircraft, 155 helicopters, 2,126 unmanned aerial vehicles, 378 air defense systems, over 5,200 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 858 multiple-launch rocket system combat vehicles, 3,441 field artillery weapons and mortars as well as 6,025 units of special military automotive equipment.

Kupyansk

Russia’s Armed Forces eliminated more than 50 militants with a rocket strike on a deployment center of a Ukrainian military brigade in the vicinity of Kupyansk, Konashenkov said.

"In the vicinity of the populated locality of Kupyansk in the Kharkov region, a rocket strike eliminated a temporary deployment center of a unit of the 14th mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian army. More than 50 militants and 12 units of special military equipment were eliminated," he said.

Ukrainian troops

Russia’s Aerospace Forces destroyed two US-made HIMARS multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS) and eliminated up to 60 Ukrainian servicemen in the vicinity of Zaporozhye within the framework of the special military operation, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman said on.

"Surgical strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces on temporary deployment centers of the second battalion and rocket and artillery division of the 65th mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian army in the vicinity of the city of Zaporozhye eliminated up to 60 servicemen and 10 units of military equipment, as well as two US-made HIMARS multiple-launch rocket systems," he said.

Buk-M1

Russia’s Armed Forces eliminated a launch pad of a Ukrainian Buk-M1 missile launcher in the Zaporozhye Region, Konashenkov said.

"Four missile/artillery arms and ammunition depots were eliminated in the vicinity of the populated localities of Rovnopolye in the Zaporozhye Region, Kramatorsk, Druzhkovka in the Donetsk People’s Republic, Kalinovka in the Nikolayev Region as well as a launch pad of a Buk-M1 missile launcher near the community of Grigorovka in the Zaporozhye Region," he said.

Ukrainian command posts

Russian aviation and artillery eliminated six command posts of Ukraine’s armed forces, Konashenkov said.

"Strikes by tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery hit six Ukrainian command posts in the vicinity of the populated localities of Yampol, Artyomovsk, Seversk in the Donetsk People’s Republic, Novoandreyevka, Gulyaypole in the Zaporozhye Region, Poligon in the Nikolayev Region as well as 68 artillery units, manpower and military equipment in 153 districts," he said.

Novopol in DPR

Ukrainian losses amounted to more than 100 troops killed or wounded, two tanks and six vehicles in the vicinity of Novopol in the Donetsk People’s Republic, Spokesman said.

"Near Novopol in the Donetsk People’s Republic as a result of a fire attack on the units of the 110th territorial defense brigade, over 110 nationalists were killed or wounded, two tanks and six vehicles were eliminated," the military official noted.

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Ex-Trump Pentagon Aide Names Likely Culprits Behind Nord Stream Sabotage

The massive pipelines, designed to deliver up to 110 billion cubic meters of natural gas from Russia to Germany across the Baltic Sea every year were sabotaged on Monday. Russian President Vladimir Putin accused the “Anglo-Saxons” of targeting the Russian pipelines to deliberately destroy Europe’s energy infrastructure.


The United States and Britain are the primary suspects in the sabotage attacks against Nord Stream 1 and 2 based on a cost-benefit analysis, former Trump Pentagon advisor Douglas Macgregor believes.
“Let’s use the process of elimination. Would the Russians destroy their own pipeline? 40 percent of Russian gross national product or gross domestic product consists of foreign currency that comes into the country to purchase natural gas, oil, coal and so forth. So the Russians did not do this. The notion that they did I think is absurd,” Macgregor said, speaking to syndicated columnist Judge Napolitano on the Judging Freedom podcast.
Germany, the pipeline’s primary European beneficiary, is also “extremely unlikely” to have sabotaged the infrastructure, Macgregor said, pointing to Berlin’s economic interest in the pipelines, and dependence on Nord Stream for the country’s energy security.
“Who else might be involved? Well the Poles apparently seem to be very enthusiastic about it. As you know the [former] Polish foreign minister said ‘Thank You United States of America’ for doing this,” Macgregor added, referring to Radoslaw Sikorski’s now-deleted tweet about the incident.

“Then you have to look at who are the state actors that have the capability to do this. And that means the Royal Navy, the United States Navy Special Operations. I think that’s pretty clear. We know that thousands of pounds of TNT were used because these pipelines are enormously robust. You have several inches of concrete around various metal alloys to move the natural gas. So it’s not something that you could simply drop a grenade down at the end of a fish line and disrupt. That means it takes a certain amount of sophistication,” the former official, who is also a retired US Army colonel, explained.
On Wednesday, sources told the Wall Street Journal that Danish officials at a NATO meeting had calculated that the force of more than 500 kg of TNT had been detected in each of the explosions disrupting the Nord Stream pipelines, which led to the release of massive methane bubbles on the surface of the Baltic Sea.
Macgregor suggested that the sabotage attack on the Russian gas pipelines may have ultimately been perpetrated after Berlin, the economic and military “gorilla in the room when it comes to the EU and NATO,” began “to give the impression that they were no longer going to go along with this proxy war in Ukraine.”
“I’m hesitant to say ‘we know it must have been Washington’. I can’t say that because we just don’t know. But it’s very clear that we have foreclosed Berlin’s options. Berlin was drifting away from this alliance. [Chancellor] Olaf Scholz said ‘I’m not sending any more equipment, I won’t send any tanks’. Now he’s in a bind because the United States has simply robbed him of the option of bailing out. Who’s going to supply him gas and oil and coal and everything else if he bails out? Where does he turn now? And remember, the Germans, who are facing terrible consequences at home refuse to restart nuclear power plants,” the former official said.

Macgregor believes that the German government may eventually collapse due to the energy crisis, and suggested that the Ukrainian security crisis has also placed NATO itself on a “slippery path” to potential disintegration in the long run.
'Unprecedented Act of State Terrorism'
The Kremlin characterized the sabotage of the Nord Stream network as an “unprecedented act of state terrorism.” In an address to the nation on Friday dedicated to the entry of four new regions into the Russian Federation, President Vladimir Putin accused the “Anglo-Saxons” of sabotaging the pipelines to destroy Europe’s energy infrastructure. “It is clear to everyone who stands to gain. Those who benefit are responsible, of course,” Putin said.
Also on Friday, Russian Foreign Intelligence Service chief Sergei Naryshkin told reporters that Moscow has materials that “point to the Western footprint in organizing and carrying out” the sabotage.

Officials in Denmark, Sweden and Germany have not ruled out deliberate disruption, and NATO has paid lip service to supporting investigations “underway to determine the origin of the damage.”
A Pentagon spokesman refused to answer a question by Sputnik about the suspected presence of US military helicopters in areas off Denmark’s Bornholm Island where the gas leaks occurred prior to the incidents.
Meanwhile, Western officials and media have claimed that Russia sabotaged its own pipelines. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov dismissed speculation to that effect last week, saying the West's claims were "quite predictable," and that it was "predictably stupid and absurd to express such hypotheses."

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[Vicus]

Putin Speech Told Ukraine to Halt Attacks; Ukraine Attacked Harder - Now, Iskander-M's Coming in from Russia

In his landmark speech at yesterday's ceremony to accept four formerly Ukrainian regions into Russia, President Vladimir Putin told Ukraine to Cease-Fire and return to the negotiating table. He pointed out that the four territories are "now Russian citizens, FOREVER." Instead of stopping its attacks, Ukraine attacked worse.

Russia told Ukraine not to attack the areas that had the Referendums, after the referendums were completed, or the Hammer would be dropped. People are now being killed across the referendum areas by Ukraine shelling. Donetsk today,. Across city is being hit. What is Russia going to do now?

Apparently, what Russia is going to do now is answered: trainloads of Russian Iskander-M hypersonic missiles are now entering the Kherson Region. Video below shows one such trainload:

Iskander-M

This is a Variant for the Russian Armed Forces Iskander missile forces, with two 9M723 quasi-ballistic missiles with published range 415 km, rumored 500 km. Speed Mach 6–7, flight altitude up to 6–50 km, nuclear capable stealth missile, controlled at all stages, not ballistic flight path.

Immediately after the launch and upon approach to the target, the missile performs intensive maneuvering to evade anti-ballistic missiles. The missile constantly maneuvers during flight as well.

These missiles are REAL power. This is very heavy military weaponry; not some rinky-dink token of power. Ukraine is bringing this upon itself.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/putin-speech-told-ukraine-to-halt-attacks-ukraine-attacked-harder-now-iskander-m-s-coming-in-from-russia

[I am B]

:Avalon: To Bill or any other mod around. This is exactly what I meant on my last (and only) post in the Poll Thread.

I literally read nothing from the last 2 pages, and the worse is, I probably skipped something interesting/relevant.



Sorry, back to topic.

[Vicus]

SCOTT RITTER: The Onus Is on Biden & Putin

We are, literally, on the eve of destruction. Now is the time for the kind of political maturity leaders rarely demonstrate.

The reality, however, is that Russian nuclear doctrine does not allow for such a scenario. Indeed, there are only two conditions where Russian nuclear doctrine permits the employment of nuclear weapons.

No 1. “[I]n response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and/or its allies,” the 2020 Russian Nuclear Posture document states, or

No 2. “in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy.”

U.S. nuclear posture, however, does allow it.

“[T]he United States will maintain the range of flexible nuclear capabilities,” the 2018 U.S. Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) declared, “needed to ensure that nuclear or non-nuclear aggression against the United States, allies, and partners will fail to achieve its objectives and carry with it the credible risk of intolerable consequences for potential adversaries now and in the future.”

It should be noted that the 2018 NPR was promulgated during the administration of President Donald Trump. Although the Biden administration initiated the NPR process in September 2021, it has yet to publish an updated document.

By ignoring stated Russian nuclear policy, and instead mirror-imaging U.S. nuclear policy onto Russian behavior, the U.S., NATO and Ukraine are setting themselves — and the world — up for disaster.


continue: https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/30/scott-ritter-the-onus-is-on-biden-putin/

[Mashika]

:Avalon: To Bill or any other mod around. This is exactly what I meant on my last (and only) post in the Poll Thread.

I literally read nothing from the last 2 pages, and the worse is, I probably skipped something interesting/relevant.



Sorry, back to topic.


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[Mashika]

What of the loyal Ukrainians who have have had to abandon their homes and communities that have been flattened by the Russian artillery? What of those who have died or been abused by Russian forces? That is all western propaganda you say. Sure.
Do you have examples of that? Or just "somewhere it must have happened!"

You are acting all hysterical right there. I bet you can't point to one single instance of that and i can tell you why. Those "communities that have been flattened by the Russian artillery" are actually the ones that were shelled to the ground by the UkroNazis, and then the western fake and corrupt media that you dearly love and read every day for your daily hit of disinformation reported it as "Russian shelling"

But please list all those places, with names and dates, it must be out there, right? Such as crime would not go unreported in detail

Everything else you said is wrong, purposedly lacking in detail or simply pure hate based reasoning, which means it can be thrown away as it is not an educated opinion but more like screaming to people's faces on the street corner that the end is nigh

Also one thing at a time, i'll wait and see if you can come up with that list of towns that were flattened by the Russian artillery, and then we can go one by one and see if it's true

I expect:

1. Date of the event
2. Name and location of the town/village/city
3. Number of casualties
4. If there are, street interviews or videos of the people who survived and are witnesses, just like we see when Ukraine hits towns all over Donetsk
5. Any articles or reports on the media where it was reported

Let's see if you have some actual evidence or you were fooled by the media you love and respect but that spits in your face a bunch of lies every single time you watch or read it

Let the waiting game begin!




Does no one here question the logic of the Russians to potentially use nukes to defend their illegitimate land grab in the Ukraine? Even if you think your neighbour practices satanism, does that justify stealing his backyard by force? How can a man who invades be called the leader of the free world? I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread.

What specifically leads you to say that this is an illegitimate land grab?

At this point do you realize what would happen if Russia just left Ukraine a week ago and abandoned all the civilians in contested regions?

How do you think Ukraine would treat Russian speaking Ukrainians in the region? Do you think they would be left alive?
Are you aware of what has been happening in Ukraine since 2014?

What do the people in the region have to say?
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1576058148049235968

Putin has not used nukes, so not sure why you are criticizing Russia for something that has not happened?

Its an illegitimate land grab because all of the republics of the ussr accepted the borders at the dissolution of the ussr. Also the Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security guarantees that have clearly not been honored.

I would think that a peacekeeping force could have been deployed to ensure the security of russian speaking people in contested regions, and this could have been achieved without an invasion.

What of the loyal Ukrainians who have have had to abandon their homes and communities that have been flattened by the Russian artillery? What of those who have died or been abused by Russian forces? That is all western propaganda you say. Sure.

And regarding those referenda, what legitimacy can you give a vote in a land controlled by military occupation whose residents have mostly fled, or died, and who vote under duress? Another question is did Russia hold any such referendum in Chechnya before the most recent Chechnyan war? Of course they didnt cuz this is all bull****.

You guys have drunk the Putin koolaid, sorry, but the mass murderer Putin is not the leader of the free world. And the next think we'll see this maniac you idolize dropping nukes in the Ukraine. And you'll likely still support him then. Give your head a shake.

[kfm27917]

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/war-has-just-begun

[Mashika]

"WELCOME back to this America's Voice NEWSbreak. I'm Terence Bates. Russian President Vladimir Putin just LAUNCHED the process of annexing parts of Ukraine when he signed a law ABSORBING the four territories into Russia, despite INTERNATIONAL CONDEMNATION.

In the meantime, REPORTS out of those areas INDICATE convoys of people FLEEING every single day in order to avoid the SEEMINGLY UNPOPULAR Russian annexation. According to a REUTERS REPORT, one of those convoys in Southern Ukraine was the VICTIM of an ALLEGED Russian missile attack, killing MORE THAN 20 civilians, this morning. That convoy was assembling in a car park near Zaporozhye city in order to carry people and supplies into the RUSSIAN HELD territory.

Meantime, Ukraine says it will take back all of its territories. Russian officials, including the country's foreign minister have REPORTEDLY SAID the THREAT of nuclear retaliation would apply to any attacks on the areas THEY plan to annex."




I found it very odd, the way to blame Russia for something so openly done by Ukraine

But this is the most odd thing about it:



REPORTS out of those areas INDICATE convoys of people FLEEING every single day in order to avoid the SEEMINGLY UNPOPULAR Russian annexation


And then:



That convoy was assembling in a car park near Zaporozhye city in order to carry people and supplies into the RUSSIAN HELD territory


If they are fleeing due to the "unpopular Russian annexation", then how can they also be traveling to the "Russian held territory", as if they were 'outside'? These people live on that same territory, where are they going to? They are already inside the annexed territory, they could only move out of it, and they were moving out, to the Russian side, running away from the Ukro-Nazi, so that explanation doesn't make any sense except from a point of view of distorting reality so much to make excuses for Ukraine's crime, that reality turns into a retarded cartoon full of illogical, laughable, twisted 'facts', and truly shameless disrespect for the public reading that 'report'. It's like they think people are so low cognitive they can just say whatever and as much as illogical as it is people will just accept it

Western media:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AL9nZEWgv80pKVHFLw_z55eC9ODYadXsCikhTA3A4d4Y1bDGi76lwBgRrd-8BDcHNClkL0cWSWqZfPZM2c_WWoAkSfwSV3GgUJoBNsO_WlbpKwK-NBsvs9mN-85FLzjwnLS9LuSF8qs8jRxeIKAwXChtU5ZI=w439-h468-no?authuser=0

But very sad that in a lot of cases it is exactly what happens :)

[Mashika]

Quick note, for future reference and clarification

I read a post about some Russian car plate, and it said "the Russian plate" or something like that. Then a question or observation came about that sentence

The thing is, in Russian, "the", "a" and so on, do not have equals as in English, so you can see when someone has translated and the translator 'filled' in the missing words

So for example here
NovichokRossiya/13890


Russian security forces detained an employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Kherson, who handed over to the Ukrainian side the coordinates of the house, which was subsequently hit by a missile attack.


Here you see again the same use of "the" just as in "the Russian plate"

"The house" but should have said "coordinates of a house which was subsequently hit by a missile attack" but if you were to translate literarily it would have said "coordinates of house", the translator filled in the missing word, but chose "the" by default because it can't figure out what else to use there :)

I suppose i don't see much issue with that but must look very weird or even bothering for native English speakers, and now that i noticed this i can't stop seeing it all over the place... and it is starting to bother me, because why aren't the posters double checking the translation and fixing those errors? :bigsmile::facepalm::gaah:

Also:

"The main thing" is another 'artifact' of translators that i see a lot when reading the daily situation reports. It should be more like "Main points for 2 October" or something similar instead of a very literal translation that sounds very off, but it looks like no one cares to correct translator issues, lazy......

Like here
Slavyangrad/11593

Now i'm afraid to go look back into my own posts and then find that i have sinned the same way in the past... :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

[Hym]

Yes, Mashika.?????? WTF !!!!! At what point do people finally admit that they just didn't read or watch, so good for those that admit it.
That is the bare minimum for participation here. All are welcome, but....Jeez!!!

Western media has almost always been as bad as it is now. That one station inserting the vile LIE that it was not UkraNazimia killing innocents was too much for me. In the context of how honest people see corruption, I should have seen this coming from that new site.

I could have chosen many, hell..ANY of the MSM sites to get fed that crap, but this goes way beyond me or anyone else not being surprised that could happen from a group of people, many from former government positions, who have been doing so good about waking up a country about a local and globalist agenda to enslave humanity. Yet, treating the atrocities in Ukraine so flippantly and with the same deceptive template that marks media as a tool of criminality, CANNOT be left without the loudest opposition and rebuke. Anyone who CAN READ, and who CAN OPEN THEIR EYES TO SEE, can WATCH the endless criminal complicity of a so-called media in a country of so-called free people of the western demonocracies not calling out the genocide. Some say creating FALSE reports like that is easy but I see it differently.

It takes a lot of energy to un-see the documented brutality of all of those regimes created by the corporate interests that control many governments, as they have for almost ever. It took that presenter all on his own, or in his complicity with his news director, or the station manager, or the site owners to dismiss any of Ava Bartletts videos and all of the many others, easily watched on the cheapest phone or computer.

If the newly created "country" of Ukraine had ever lived without such deep poisonous fascists in it since its beginning, I can't see how the Russian Federation or its leadership would ever find a need to go to such lengths to protect its brothers and sisters, its family, there. How did the Poles forget the execution of entire villages of their Jewish citizens by the nazi concubine Bandera, only to sit as they do now welcoming in those to set up another series of massacres across their border?

The poison of western hegemony is like rust and cancer, eating away at everything it comes in contact with. It is a dark, spiritless matter that entraps and feeds greed, pushing it out into the world. The long history of silence when our neighbors are being abused, excused over and over and over again by propagandists, politicians, sociologists, reporters and repeaters alike, needs to be taken to the ground.

Civilians do not know how extremely difficult it is to save large groups of oppressed people under years of attack, while defending yourself and civilians when targeting the fascist cowards, cowards who have used Ukranian civilians as shields, over and over again. For the deeply uninformed here, and anywhere for that matter, who find it hard to simply READ and to easily WATCH videos, to LISTEN to the civilians in these conflicts, it is a fact that out of necessity the liberating forces in any area, and the few as good as the Russians have been, do need to surgically destroy anywhere that their enemies are entrenched, especially the encampments of those who have been murdering their own countrymen, women and children. It is without a doubt that at least some of the contracted western servicemen and the independent whores/mercs have reported to their superiors about the skill with which the Russians have destroyed their positions, while at the same time showing the proof of such skill, which is how concentrated the liberators have been at saving the lives of so many civilians.

[Kryztian]

This isn't someone I would usually cite as a voice of reason or decency, but ...

‘Not wise’ to let Ukraine join NATO – Kissinger
Russia regarded its sphere of influence in Eastern Europe as a “safety belt,” the former US secretary of state said
https://www.rt.com/news/563858-kissinger-ukraine-nato-russia/

Washington’s attempts to incorporate Ukraine into NATO after the collapse of the Soviet Union were not prudent, former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said on Friday.

Speaking to the Council on Foreign Relations, a non-partisan US think tank, the 99-year-old veteran diplomat argued that Washington tried to indiscriminately include all former members of the Soviet bloc under its umbrella after the Berlin wall fell, and that the “whole region between the center of Europe and Russian border became open to restructure.”

“From the Russian point of view, the United States then attempted to integrate this whole region, without exception, into an American-led strategic system,” he said, adding that this development basically removed Russia’s historic “safety belt.”

Kissinger thus stressed that “it was not a wise American policy to attempt to include Ukraine into NATO.”

He does not believe, however, that this justifies attempts by Russian President Vladimir Putin to re-incorporate Ukraine into Moscow’s sphere of influence by a “surprise attack.”

Kissinger said he does not know if it is possible to make peace with the Russian leader, but stressed that the West “must seek an opportunity for an arrangement that guarantees Ukrainian freedom” and keeps the country part of the European system.

Moreover, Kissinger opined that in a way, Russia has “already lost the war” because its capacity to threaten Europe with conventional attacks, which it had enjoyed for decades or even centuries, “has now been demonstrably overcome.”

Despite that, the former secretary of state signaled that sooner or later, the West and Russia must engage in dialogue. “Some dialogue, maybe on an unofficial level, maybe in an exploratory way is very important,” he reiterated, adding that “in the nuclear environment” such an outcome is preferable to a “battlefield decision.”

In early August, Kissinger warned that the US had found itself “at the edge of war with Russia and China on issues which we partly created,” arguing that Washington has rejected traditional diplomacy, as it has been “seeking to convert or condemn their interlocutors rather than to penetrate their thinking.”

https://www.rt.com/news/563858-kissinger-ukraine-nato-russia/

[Michel Leclerc]

Does no one here question the logic of the Russians to potentially use nukes to defend their illegitimate land grab in the Ukraine? Even if you think your neighbour practices satanism, does that justify stealing his backyard by force? How can a man who invades be called the leader of the free world? I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread.

Thank you Justplain. I think the qualifications "illegitimate" and "land grab" are not applicable here.

Apart from that, if "invading" disqualifies a government leader from being "the leader of the free world”, that obviously excludes Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama. (Maybe not Donald Trump; I am not sure.)

With all those American presidents being illegitimately thus called, one wonders who were during their tenure the real leaders of the free world. Do you have any idea?

Another thing – all irony aside – you display the Canadian flag. Are you free? As a Belgian living in France, I am not.

[Hym]

Quick note, for future reference and clarification

I read a post about some Russian car plate, and it said "the Russian plate" or something like that. Then a question or observation came about that sentence

The thing is, in Russian, "the", "a" and so on, do not have equals as in English, so you can see when someone has translated and the translator 'filled' in the missing words

So for example here
NovichokRossiya/13890


Russian security forces detained an employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Kherson, who handed over to the Ukrainian side the coordinates of the house, which was subsequently hit by a missile attack.


Here you see again the same use of "the" just as in "the Russian plate"

"The house" but should have said "coordinates of a house which was subsequently hit by a missile attack" but if you were to translate literarily it would have said "coordinates of house", the translator filled in the missing word, but chose "the" by default because it can't figure out what else to use there :)

I suppose i don't see much issue with that but must look very weird or even bothering for native English speakers, and now that i noticed this i can't stop seeing it all over the place... and it is starting to bother me, because why aren't the posters double checking the translation and fixing those errors? :bigsmile::facepalm::gaah:

Also:

"The main thing" is another 'artifact' of translators that i see a lot when reading the daily situation reports. It should be more like "Main points for 2 October" or something similar instead of a very literal translation that sounds very off, but it looks like no one cares to correct translator issues, lazy......

Like here
Slavyangrad/11593
.
Now i'm afraid to go look back into my own posts and then find that i have sinned the same way in the past... :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

As this thread is about this focal point, that in ways mirrors many of the dark methods that controllers use worldwide to injure the lives of many, it is always telling when we examine how those manipulators use and misuse language. Your catching the western use of phrasing, as incorrect syntax in Russian, is right on the mark.

No sins or errors there Mashika, and as of now, it is only your use of "on" when it may likely be better to write "in" in your most recent posts. Otherwise, you're cool. In fact, very cool.

From the beginning of your writing here I noticed that and offered some insight. However, few if any here are so arrogant or uninformed to consider our language any better than anyone else's. Quite the contrary, and if in the beginning showing a deep respect for your very honest writing alone that few, outside of my offer, have ever thought it anywhere near important, as it wasn't and it isn't.


I understand your posts, probably as you have intended them to be.
In fact, it is in removing any criticism as someone who knows this language well, I learned and liked the simplicity and the lack of prepositional inclusions, as leaving out the "a" the "the", etc. does not change the meaning of a sentence or a phrase. I rather like it.

Native English speakers would do well to allow their predisposition for prepositions to take a rest when learning other languages. Proof of the sillyness, the unnecessary rules of this language, is the axiom that it is improper to end a sentence with a preposition.
My Oh My, How improper of anyone, any commoner, to do such a thing!

I have often challenged myself and all contexts of my writing by going against such rules, if even to spark a bit of free thinking in those who would read any of it.

The inclusion of non-native speakers here is vital and may be one of the most important aspects of the "let's learn together" truths of this insightful and inspiring forum. When I think of Bill and the moderators here, I feel their personal experiences shaping a thoroughly human and humane tolerance, a strength known, that is ultimately a deeper learning for all.

[Michel Leclerc]

Yes, Mashika.?????? WTF !!!!! At what point do people finally admit that they just didn't read or watch, so good for those that admit it.
That is the bare minimum for participation here. All are welcome, but....Jeez!!!

Western media has almost always been as bad as it is now. That one station inserting the vile LIE that it was not UkraNazimia killing innocents was too much for me. In the context of how honest people see corruption, I should have seen this coming from that new site.

I could have chosen many, hell..ANY of the MSM sites to get fed that crap, but this goes way beyond me or anyone else not being surprised that could happen from a group of people, many from former government positions, who have been doing so good about waking up a country about a local and globalist agenda to enslave humanity. Yet, treating the atrocities in Ukraine so flippantly and with the same deceptive template that marks media as a tool of criminality, CANNOT be left without the loudest opposition and rebuke. Anyone who CAN READ, and who CAN OPEN THEIR EYES TO SEE, can WATCH the endless criminal complicity of a so-called media in a country of so-called free people of the western demonocracies not calling out the genocide. Some say creating FALSE reports like that is easy but I see it differently.

It takes a lot of energy to un-see the documented brutality of all of those regimes created by the corporate interests that control many governments, as they have for almost ever. It took that presenter all on his own, or in his complicity with his news director, or the station manager, or the site owners to dismiss any of Ava Bartletts videos and all of the many others, easily watched on the cheapest phone or computer.

If the newly created "country" of Ukraine had ever lived without such deep poisonous fascists in it since its beginning, I can't see how the Russian Federation or its leadership would ever find a need to go to such lengths to protect its brothers and sisters, its family, there. How did the Poles forget the execution of entire villages of their Jewish citizens by the nazi concubine Bandera, only to sit as they do now welcoming in those to set up another series of massacres across their border?

The poison of western hegemony is like rust and cancer, eating away at everything it comes in contact with. It is a dark, spiritless matter that entraps and feeds greed, pushing it out into the world. The long history of silence when our neighbors are being abused, excused over and over and over again by propagandists, politicians, sociologists, reporters and repeaters alike, needs to be taken to the ground.

Civilians do not know how extremely difficult it is to save large groups of oppressed people under years of attack, while defending yourself and civilians when targeting the fascist cowards, cowards who have used Ukranian civilians as shields, over and over again. For the deeply uninformed here, and anywhere for that matter, who find it hard to simply READ and to easily WATCH videos, to LISTEN to the civilians in these conflicts, it is a fact that out of necessity the liberating forces in any area, and the few as good as the Russians have been, do need to surgically destroy anywhere that their enemies are entrenched, especially the encampments of those who have been murdering their own countrymen, women and children. It is without a doubt that at least some of the contracted western servicemen and the independent whores/mercs have reported to their superiors about the skill with which the Russians have destroyed their positions, while at the same time showing the proof of such skill, which is how concentrated the liberators have been at saving the lives of so many civilians.

Such a great post Hym, thank you.

As for this question of yours:

How did the Poles forget the execution of entire villages of their Jewish citizens by the nazi concubine Bandera, only to sit as they do now welcoming in those to set up another series of massacres across their border?

you may find, alas, part of the answer when you watch Claude Lanzmann’s film Shoah (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7z8lOvfskk). I have myself only watched part of it, but with my late friend Luc Deneulin, lecturer in film history and film theory at Brussels University, who knew the film by heart, I spent many hours discussing its implications.

[Hym]

"How did the Poles forget the execution of entire villages of their Jewish citizens by the nazi concubine Bandera, only to sit as they do now welcoming in those to set up another series of massacres across their border?

you may find, alas, part of the answer when you watch Claude Lanzmann’s film Shoah. I have myself only watched part of it, but with my late friend Luc Deneulin, lecturer in film history and film theory at Brussels University, who knew the film by heart, I spent many hours discussing its implications."

Thank You, Michel. I'll watch it. There is some soul memory from me here about Shoah and the great impetus to speak out against oppression.

One night a long time ago, I had a very rare nightmare. In the nightmare I was inside of a very brutal space, a building not at all made by kindness. The next day, while working in Los Angeles, I came upon that building. It was the Holocaust Museum.

The sight, being identical to my nightmare with an interior I knew vividly, was a visceral video of my experience. As if by some much deeper habit, I wanted to go in and make sure that it included all of the crimes that were committed by all of the governments that sat idle while it all happened. I had a strong feeling that not one corporation or western politician who funded it all, from IBM to the Rockefellers, was mentioned anywhere inside.

Just as much, I knew that all of these years later, on some level, somewhere in some media, some politic, the genocide was being used for another purpose and not one pursued for a lasting peace. It was as if the museum was an insult to all of the suffering and a proof of the continuing inhumanity to others, even as I'm sure that the exhibits were deeply moving, while not at all being complete.

[Mashika]

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-defense/3584439-first-corvette-built-for-ukraines-navy-launched-in-turkey.html


In Istanbul, a solemn ceremony of launching the Ada-class corvette built in Turkey for Ukraine’s Navy took place with the participation of First Lady of Ukraine Olena Zelenska and Commander of the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Oleksiy Neyizhpapa.

NovichokRossiya/13997

And then...



Italian Newspaper La Repubblica reports that NATO has sent an intelligence warning to its allies which states the Russian K329 Belgorod nuclear submarine has been mobilized, located somewhere in the arctic sea, fearing the Submarine is looking to test the Status-6 “doomsday” nuclear superweapon.

battleinsights/5876

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AL9nZEXMh_z083JL-pEXUkXHs8fsABS0WzgqtUSq8IK3Sm3KBQa7iqIzv8JFAy9esPNeNoksIHmktMEt6E6s7M3w2KbJXBEX1HXItW0JCTzoK-JC7JGUGEwTjdRpl-uvlCeICFWijgS9YP4mzkETXqNpYPtA=s618-no?authuser=0

Also this 'news article' is amazing lol
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-warns-of-mobilization-of-russian-submarine-belgorod-carrier-of-the-weapon-of-apocalypse/ar-AA12vwWP?li=BBnb7Kz


The new submarine was launched in July and is now reportedly submerged in Arctic waters after its possible involvement in the sabotage of the Nord Stream gas pipelines, according to several unofficial sources.

:sherlock:;)
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::beer::beer::beer:

[thepainterdoug]

Hi Mashika
i read the articles.
have you even seen or heard of the movie Dr Strangelove?
should you get a chance to watch, I think it would be oddly amusing at this moment

i hope you are well
tp doug