WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Metaphor]

Where are my Finnish and Swedish friends now? This is getting real. Just trying to get your opinion.

I find it hard to wade through msm fear porn and try to see what is propaganda to promote fear and what is actual truth. Its like covidreporting on steriods here in the swedish newspapers. The finnish people remember all to well when the russians tried to invade in 1941 and finally was beaten back in 1944, but I guess the russians at this time rather took the baltic states, if any. How are your own thought going with this, and how are the finns taking this?

Edit: just started looking at this:
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I can tell you that there are many voices to join NATO just now in Sweden, and it is also said that Sweden will aid Ukraine with personnel, weapons and other.

[The Moss Trooper]

Kiev is surrounded and Russian troops are in

There are reports that the Ukranian military has shielded themselves between habitational buildings and not allowing people to get away. They are using them as human shields now

Bridges and roads outside the city were preventively destroyed by the Ukrainian army. People are now trapped inside the war zone

https://t.me/asbmil/211
https://t.me/asbmil/214
https://t.me/asbmil/216


Great updates!

And I LOVE how your diction keeps changing......... Truly a gifted multi-linguist.


I truly admire Sir Walter Scott, if not for this alone: "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive"


Some words just echo down the ages.....................

[Mashika]

I thought about this before but the one thing came to mind, most likely whatever materials were there have already been removed since long ago once they suspected or knew what was coming. Otherwise why would Russia destroy the labs, as opposed to taking them under control to inspect and see what the US was working on there?

Also just destroying the lab would release tremendous possible deathly amounts of viruses or others materials all over the place, i don't think that would work well for anyone involved including Russia

If these labs are gone, there's a big chance intelligence already knows they are now of no importance, there's nothing there of any value, in other words

Or

Russia already took all the materials out in a clandestine operation we have not heard about and probably never will and now the army is just cleaning up

That's what i would do, definitely. *if no one knows, then it never happened*



Are US Biolabs being targeted?

Here's a somewhat eye-watering piece of research, which may carry some weight.

IF this is what is transpiring then we may be on the verge of Plandemic 2.0.

Source: Thread by @ War Clandestine on ThreadReader App (archived) (https://archive.fo/kyR2q)

Whatever the case may be it's an interesting read:

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Thread_by_WarClandestine_on_Thread%20_Reader_compressed.pdf

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https://twitter.com/AnimalConnected/status/1497041549028470784
1497041549028470784

[gnostic9]

This is a good analytical article on the Ukraine and Russia situation.


Worth a read.


https://www.activistpost.com/2022/02/order-out-of-chaos-how-the-ukraine-conflict-is-designed-to-benefit-globalists.html


Love peace and joy to all!

[muxfolder]

Where are my Finnish and Swedish friends now? This is getting real. Just trying to get your opinion.

I find it hard to wade through msm fear porn and try to see what is propaganda to promote fear and what is actual truth. Its like covidreporting on steriods here in the swedish newspapers. The finnish people remember all to well when the russians tried to invade in 1941 and finally was beaten back in 1944, but I guess the russians at this time rather took the baltic states, if any. How are your own thought going with this, and how are the finns taking this?

I've been thinking how it is in Sweden and what are you going to do about, if we're on the same front. No ones really panicking here, probably because Sauli said we should not. He seems to be like Urho Kaleva Kekkonen of our time.Always somehow on the known. There are a lot of opinions that we should not be a part of NATO because the opposite says we should not. But there are a lot of we should. I don't know what to say. If both of our countries will join NATO it's going to be used as an excuse to invade here and maybe even Sweden. If we don't it'll be probably same because we didn't. I think Putin and his other whatever the **** you want to call it thinks the same. Plus they have shake hands with the Chinese. This is what I've been thinking for a long while. I did think that before that it's gonna be just Ukraine, but it seems to be something more now.

Anyway, we've been both already bullied by this asshole and his minions. What are we going to do about it?

[Mashika]

This was bound to happen

The Ukrainian army has delivered arms to civilians without giving them proper training, then since these civilians are not prepared to war, they attacked their own army out of fear, who replied and destroyed the civilian attack groups

Now the Ukrainian army has killed Ukranian civilians because they thought these were russian invaders in plain clothes :facepalm:

https://t.me/asbmil/232

[Metaphor]

Where are my Finnish and Swedish friends now? This is getting real. Just trying to get your opinion.

I find it hard to wade through msm fear porn and try to see what is propaganda to promote fear and what is actual truth. Its like covidreporting on steriods here in the swedish newspapers. The finnish people remember all to well when the russians tried to invade in 1941 and finally was beaten back in 1944, but I guess the russians at this time rather took the baltic states, if any. How are your own thought going with this, and how are the finns taking this?

I've been thinking how it is in Sweden and what are you going to do about, if we're on the same front. No ones really panicking here, probably because Sauli said we should not. He seems to be like Urho Kaleva Kekkonen of our time.Always somehow on the known. There are a lot of opinions that we should not be a part of NATO because the opposite says we should not. But there are a lot of we should. I don't know what to say. If both of our countries will join NATO it's going to be used as an excuse to invade here and maybe even Sweden. If we don't it'll be probably same because we didn't. I think Putin and his other whatever the **** you want to call it thinks the same. Plus they have shake hands with the Chinese. This is what I've been thinking for a long while. I did think that before that it's gonna be just Ukraine, but it seems to be something more now.

Anyway, we've been both already bullied by this asshole and his minions. What are we going to do about it?

Yes things are building up to... something. And yes it could be a damned if you do damned if you dont scenario surrounding joining the NATO issue. Ive been prepping for some years and trying to better my skills in shooting, surviving without heating, and food, basic tactics for family to be safe etc. Perhaps not as crazy as people back then thought. Id be honoured fighting alongside the mighty finns against any outside agressor, but hopefully we dont have to go that far. Perkele (!!!), these are bad times indeed.

(for non finnish readers: "Perkele" is finnish for cursing/ swearing. It is used as an interjection to signify surprise (like “****!”, or “****!”). It means more or less “the devil” ...so im told by google. )

[Eva2]

A comment from a poster in a group: (views already expressed on this thread)

'Well my friends…..I’ve been digging and I think we have a strong indication that this is Putin taking out the Cabal’s infrastructure in the Ukraine. Remember the Hunter Biden Scandal - all the back door deals & money laundering that were being funnelled through the Ukraine - which includes the Obamas & Clintons - human trafficking added to that list. (Gotta thank Hunter Biden laptops for this one 👏👏👏)
And Moderna FINALLY just got caught with its DNA sequence patent of the Coflu years prior 2020👇 Lest we forget that this Coflu was homegrown in a US lab in Fort Detrick before it got shipped off to China after the NIH was slammed by the US Supreme Court with an illegal patent because you can’t patent anything in Nature - which tells us it was never Natural to begin with - it’s a bio weapon 🤨
Oh and don’t forget Canada’s very own Chrystia Freeland is tied to the Ukraine too. She’s been really unnerved a lot lately on live TV looking like she has ADD can’t keep herself still for 2 seconds…Wonder why that would be 😏
And don’t you think it’s interesting timing that Trudeau removes the Federal EMA on the same day that Russia strikes Ukraine? Also both the Ukraine & Russian Presidents are telling Ukrainian citizens not to be concerned. Putin “This is a Military Operation - we are not occupying Ukraine”
Listen to Putins speech in 2016 talking about the Western World trying to crush Christianity and adopt the normalization of Pedophilia. He speaks against a Global Governance that wants to crush Sovereignty. (Globalists)
This doesn’t sound like a threat to the World. This sounds like a man who looks at the Cabal as a threat to the World 👇
Keep digging friends. All is not what it seems.

https://www.facebook.com/700945560/videos/372141401074790/

https://youtu.be/tlaHubJ-fKk
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-china-nikolai-patrushev...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Fresh-lab-leak-fears...'

[indiana]

There's a startling lack of footage of this invasion. Especially with so many smart phones etc. I know there's a few videos going around of Russian tanks crossing the border but there's not much more than that. MSM have taken to reporting footage taken from SM purporting to be XYZ but saying it's "unconfirmed". I'm not for a moment saying the Russians haven't invaded but where's all the footage? And another question... are both armies largely avoiding each other?

[Mashika]

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, enabled by Belarus. We call on Russia to immediately cease its military assault, to withdraw all its forces from Ukraine and to turn back from the path of aggression it has chosen," the Brussels-based alliance said.

Let me rewrite that for a bit of context:

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms Ukraine's full-scale invasion of Donbass, enabled by the US. We call on Ukraine to immediately cease its military assault, to withdraw all its forces from Donbass and to turn back from the path of aggression it has chosen," the Brussels-based alliance said.

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How different the world would be if this had been said back then, but the hypocrisy of these people has no match in history. Now they care? After 13,000 civilians died in the hands of Nazy troops?

They knew all along and they did nothing. These words are empty, fake and foolish, just like the person throwing them out like rabbid spit out of being unable to have their usual power trip

Now they are listening, finally. But for all the wrong reasons.

[norman]

This is depressing, he trusted the wrong people and now the realisation that he was played and used has come


We were left alone. No one wants to fight for us. They don't want to take us to NATO, they are afraid to give security guarantees — Zelensky


This is very unlike him, he looks unkempt, wearing that shirt instead of the usual suit he likes, several days beard. I think he's feeling betrayed and very down. He really considered things would go different, but now he has just realised he was just a tool and Ukraine a sacrifice for the west goals
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXf359Hj1IKhkbVb7K8Uyw0uCj2zjYEh1YkMaMzZv4WITvIqEToD46oGXmZBsWkNbQ1hzQq2Kma_q9wKE1NlKbNKbnAWuMgfi5 Sh3pBjT1oaaY3lG-C6csz9CkYuDBj3ljerMXpTqT-C7d_u4NxQ3ep=w826-h536-no?authuser=0

He has announced talks with Russia very soon, Ukraine will accept and sign off an agreement to be neutral, lots of things will change now if this happens

He looks like he's acting, and not very good acting.

Whatever the point is that's being sold there, it's probably crock.

[Patient]

There's a startling lack of footage of this invasion. Especially with so many smart phones etc. I know there's a few videos going around of Russian tanks crossing the border but there's not much more than that. MSM have taken to reporting footage taken from SM purporting to be XYZ but saying it's "unconfirmed". I'm not for a moment saying the Russians haven't invaded but where's all the footage? And another question... are both armies largely avoiding each other?

I have footage, but it is not edited and just not something I would want to post - especially if the wrong family member was to see it somewhere down the line.

Trust me, things blew up and people died.

[indiana]

There's a startling lack of footage of this invasion. Especially with so many smart phones etc. I know there's a few videos going around of Russian tanks crossing the border but there's not much more than that. MSM have taken to reporting footage taken from SM purporting to be XYZ but saying it's "unconfirmed". I'm not for a moment saying the Russians haven't invaded but where's all the footage? And another question... are both armies largely avoiding each other?

I have footage, but it is not edited and just not something I would want to post - especially if the wrong family member was to see it somewhere down the line.

Trust me, things blew up and people died.

Not saying there isn't footage. Simply saying there's a spectacular lack of footage. Isn't there a Russian army marauding through Ukraine? Isn't there a Ukrainian army numbered in the 100's of 1000's in Ukraine? Two days into a full blown invasion, and given there must be several million smart phones with cameras and internet, there's not a lot of footage. And yes, I do trust you that "things blew up and people died.". I'm not being flippant about this. After two years of being utterly lied to - of being targeted by politicians and the bastard media as being an enemy of the nation for not participating in the global mass medical experiment - I'm not inclined to believe f*ck all from the media and politicians of ANY country. I would be far more inclined to believe actual footage from ordinary people... and like i said... I'm surprised there isn't a lot more videos of a Russian army in Ukraine.

[Mashika]

USA ready to help Zelensky leave Kiev - WaPo

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Personal opinion: This seems odd, why would you announce this move so openly? Unless... you want the world to know they are taking him out of Kiev, and then "something will go wrong" and he will die? He knows too much and Kiev is mostly down by now, it's just a matter of time before he gets captured.

He also said he agreed to talk to Russia and end this war. So i supposed he has become a liability for US interests now

How is the US planning to taking him out of Kiev, when there's no chance a plane can land and safely leave Kiev at this point?

It is truly my personal opinion, but i believe by posting this news openly the US is going use him as a martyr

Watch the timing, he had agreed with talks to Russia earlier today, he claimed he was "alone" now they US claims they will help him get out of Kiev. Announcing this immediately puts him in a dangerous situation, he now has a bigger mark on his head, he must be captured before he's able to escape

You only put such a big mark on someone's head when you want him dead

"Zelensky accepts Putin’s proposal, ready for peace talks"
https://tass.com/world/1411621

[Mashika]

This is depressing, he trusted the wrong people and now the realisation that he was played and used has come


We were left alone. No one wants to fight for us. They don't want to take us to NATO, they are afraid to give security guarantees — Zelensky


This is very unlike him, he looks unkempt, wearing that shirt instead of the usual suit he likes, several days beard. I think he's feeling betrayed and very down. He really considered things would go different, but now he has just realised he was just a tool and Ukraine a sacrifice for the west goals
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLXf359Hj1IKhkbVb7K8Uyw0uCj2zjYEh1YkMaMzZv4WITvIqEToD46oGXmZBsWkNbQ1hzQq2Kma_q9wKE1NlKbNKbnAWuMgfi5 Sh3pBjT1oaaY3lG-C6csz9CkYuDBj3ljerMXpTqT-C7d_u4NxQ3ep=w826-h536-no?authuser=0

He has announced talks with Russia very soon, Ukraine will accept and sign off an agreement to be neutral, lots of things will change now if this happens

He looks like he's acting, and not very good acting.

Whatever the point is that's being sold there, it's probably crock.

I'm looking at this from our point of view, most Ukrainians are naive, and can't say far more for Russians, we tend to trust easily, he has always been naive.

When we think we have met a good friend, then all the personal guards go down and you trust the friend much more than you should, by western standards, even sometimes inviting them home when you just met them one day ago, but truly don't know anything about them. Then in the middle of the night something happens and you stop trusting the person and throw them out, that's very regular thing to happen actually

That's probably how he got played into this position, i can recognise that dumb behavior easily

But who knows, he did not attend the School of the Americas lol, so he may not be trained into acting fake tears and emotions as much as Juan Guaido and other South American assets are :P

[Mashika]

https://www.rt.com/russia/550674-twitter-policy-russia-ukraine/


Twitter has temporarily suspended the display of advertisements on its platform in Ukraine and Russia in a declared effort to make people’s safety a priority amid the military conflict between the two countries. Twitter noted that ads could distract users from the critical information.




it had also “paused some Tweet recommendations from people you don’t follow on Home Timeline to reduce the spread of abusive content.”

I suppose this means pausing all tweets that show information from the ground, so that people can only receive news from the main stream media accounts or the people they follow that is bias confirming

This is the "One single narrative" approach in the works

¤=[Post Update]=¤

"Belgrade will not join EU in sanctions against Russia, but won’t recognize Donbass republics either"
https://www.rt.com/russia/550658-serbia-moscow-sanctions-ukraine/



Serbia will not join the EU sanctions against Russia over its military operation in Ukraine, President Aleksandar Vucic announced on Friday. Belgrade will also not recognize the Donetsk (DPR) and Lugansk (LPR) People’s Republics because it respects the territorial integrity of Ukraine, Vucic said.




He added that the Serbs consider both Russians and Ukrainians as “brotherly people,” saying that it makes watching the unfolding events in Ukraine difficult.

Most people both in Russia and Ukraine feel the same. It remains to be seen who instigated the division and for what purposes. This will be a task for the near future, if possible at all

[Mashika]

Kiev is surrounded and Russian troops are in

There are reports that the Ukranian military has shielded themselves between habitational buildings and not allowing people to get away. They are using them as human shields now

Bridges and roads outside the city were preventively destroyed by the Ukrainian army. People are now trapped inside the war zone

https://t.me/asbmil/211
https://t.me/asbmil/214
https://t.me/asbmil/216


Great updates!

And I LOVE how your diction keeps changing......... Truly a gifted multi-linguist.


I truly admire Sir Walter Scott, if not for this alone: "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive"


Some words just echo down the ages.....................

Thank you, i've been trying very hard the past months to be strong in English, i did lack a lot of skills before, often having to depend on someone else to fix my mistakes. I feel more confident now but can't deny that i do use a translator for some words and also look on google for samples of sentences so i can learn the proper way to write them in real native english :)

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An update on the Ukranian military using human shields on Kiev

Now it has been mentioned in the UN, remains to be seen if this will be ignored or not

"Russian Envoy to the UN Says Nationalists in Ukraine Using Civilians as Human Shields"
https://sputniknews.com/20220226/russian-envoy-in-un-says-nationalists-in-ukraine-using-civilians-as-human-shields-1093380141.html

[Mashika]

More disinformation online

"Russian War In Ukraine - Russian Low Altitude Airstrike Nearly Hits House With Family Inside"
h42d4fBKeBE

That's an Ukrainian plane, Russia doesn't fly those planes. This is very well known

This person posted that video and has 1.6 million followers, this is how disinformation disseminates. This is a plain shameless lie because this video was exposed several days ago as not being a Russian plane.

This person said "alleged" so to cover himself, because he knows it's not true. This again has been proven days ago, he's only adding that word in advance for when he gets called out, but otherwise his wording is clear on what he intends to do here

Read the comment section so you see how these lies affect and direct people's opinions

Reality: This is one Ukrainian plane hitting Ukrainian civilians. No explanation as to why except they need victims to showcase for approval and get help from the west while blaming Russia for it

[ThePythonicCow]

I firmly reject the main narratives being presented to explain recent events in the Ukraine. This is not essentially a modern day Great Power Game between Russia, China, US, UK, EU, Japan, India, ... that we're seeing.

Rather this is a Khazarian Mafia (KM) versus "sons of Adam" game, that has been ongoing for all of recorded history. This shows up more openly in our history books going back a thousand years to the public conversion by the Khazarians in central Asia to the Jewish religion, and to their since gaining substantial control of many major institutions, including world government and non-government organizations, Big Pharma, Big Oil, Big News, Universities, Maritime law, commerce, militaries and intelligence. The Anglo-American monetary systems, based on the debt-money British Pound, then the US Dollar, are major KM tools of control of our civilization.

We are met, on the fields of the Ukraine, in an early skirmish of the break out of a major war, that will be ongoing for years to come, in that epic contest. Putin has overthrown the KM control of Russia, from when it was known as the USSR. Russia has lost one or two hundred million of its people over the last century to the KM, in the Russian revolution that established the USSR, in Stalin's Holodomor that wiped out many in the Ukraine, in Stalin's gulags, and in the very brutal fighting against Hitler. Putin knows this well, and is determined to kick some serious butt.

It's a complex game being played, but I continue to hold Trump as being on the Christian, sons of Adam, side, aligned with Putin, when final push comes to shove. However both Putin and Trump have to sail with "false flags" at times, as they maneuver their way through this mess.

Xi may, or may not, be naturally aligned with Putin and Trump, as the KM, descendent from the central Asian mongols of Genghis Khan, are also natural enemies of many of the Chinese people. But at a very deep level, I don't speak, think or feel Chinese, and am quite ignorant of their culture, religion, and history.

The ordinary (i.e. the majority) of the people of Christian, Muslim, and Jewish faith, and descendants of Western European and Arabic lands are natural allies in this Great War. Many other "indigenous" people have been terrible victims in this Great War.

See further my latest Money Masters post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116122-The-Money-Masters-Crises-of-war-plague-and-hunger-Total-central-real-time-control-of-all-money.&p=1485249&viewfull=1#post1485249), for Clif High's introduction to this history, and the nature of this war.

[Mashika]

I'm sorry friends from the west, but i will keep calling the BS of your governments non stop, until i can't

"Canada sanctions Putin, reveals stance on SWIFT
Ottawa has accused Moscow of waging a “war on freedom” with its military operation in Ukraine"
https://www.rt.com/russia/550675-trudeau-sanctions-putin-canada/


The Canadian PM has blamed the Russian leadership for the “barbaric war” against freedom and democracy as he announced the sanctions.

He did not think the last 8 years of murders in Donbass were barbaric, but now that a few people in Ukraine have died, now he notices?



The Canadian PM accused Russia of waging “war on freedom, on democracy, and on the rights of Ukrainians and all people to determine their own future,” while praising Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as “the embodiment of the courage of Ukrainian people.”

“I am inspired by his resolve and his devotion to his country,” Trudeau said.

You are a soulless hypocrite You are inspired by a Nazi coup, a Nazi army and the killing of 13,000 civilians in Donbass

There is no way you don't know about those events. So you are rotten to the very core of your soul. You ignored the killing it thousands of kids and elderly people, because it wasn't in your interest to call upon bringing justice to the Nazi Ukrainian government about it. By association and neglect, you are a war criminal. You have turned a blind eye to war crimes and crimes against humanity, you helped them and enabled them

Sit down, Justin Trudeau. You have not place on this conversation, sit down and stop talking. You are just a facist coward behind a microphone

[rgray222]

More disinformation online

That's an Ukrainian plane, Russia doesn't fly those planes. This is very well known

This person posted that video and has 1.6 million followers, this is how disinformation disseminates. This is a plain shameless lie because this video was exposed several days ago as not being a Russian plane.

This person said "alleged" so to cover himself, because he knows it's not true. This again has been proven days ago, he's only adding that word in advance for when he gets called out, but otherwise his wording is clear on what he intends to do here

Read the comment section so you see how these lies affect and direct people's opinions

Reality: This is one Ukrainian plane hitting Ukrainian civilians. No explanation as to why except they need victims to showcase for approval and get help from the west while blaming Russia for it

If what you say is true then drop a link in the comments so we can check it out. There is so much disinformation and misinformation on this topic that without a link to comments like yours it loses its credibility.

The Russians and the Ukraine military fly the same fighter jets, same helicopters and the same transports so how could you or anyone possibly know that this is Ukrainian or Russian. It is impossible to see any marking so there truly is no way to verify what you have said.

Ukraine Air Force (https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force)
Russian Air Force (https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_currently_active_Russian_military_aircraft)

Also, I spent a few minutes checking the comments out (as you suggested) and 99% were condemning the invasion, did not see any comments saying anything else. I am sure there might be comments attesting to what you have said but they would be in the minority.

I am not trying to rip on you I am only attempting to keept this thread accurate and honest, I believe it is important.

[Mashika]

"US offer to evacuate Zelensky – report
The Ukrainian President has publicly stated he wants to remain in Kiev, however"
https://www.rt.com/news/550677-us-offer-evacuate-zelensky/

Zelensky feels safer away from the US control/protection now. He won't be leaving, if this is true



US government officials are prepared to assist Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s evacuation from Kiev and have been discussing safe places where he could represent the Ukrainian government in exile, the Washington Post reported on Friday.

According to the newspaper, which cited a “senior U.S. official,” US government representatives “in recent days have spoken to Zelensky about a variety of security issues, including the safest places for the president to situate himself to ensure continuity of the Ukrainian government.”


So, if people of Ukraine vote a new government in, the US government won't accept it and claim it is illegal. The US government still thinks they are allowed to chose on behalf of the people of Ukraine, given these statements

So much for "Democracy and Freedom" and "The right for self-determination"

Is the world watching this? Or are they too busy to care because of the CNN broadcast

[Mashika]

More disinformation online

That's an Ukrainian plane, Russia doesn't fly those planes. This is very well known

This person posted that video and has 1.6 million followers, this is how disinformation disseminates. This is a plain shameless lie because this video was exposed several days ago as not being a Russian plane.

This person said "alleged" so to cover himself, because he knows it's not true. This again has been proven days ago, he's only adding that word in advance for when he gets called out, but otherwise his wording is clear on what he intends to do here

Read the comment section so you see how these lies affect and direct people's opinions

Reality: This is one Ukrainian plane hitting Ukrainian civilians. No explanation as to why except they need victims to showcase for approval and get help from the west while blaming Russia for it

If what you say is true then drop a link in the comments so we can check it out. There is so much disinformation and misinformation on this topic that without a link to comments like yours it loses its credibility.

The Russians and the Ukraine military fly the same fighter jets, same helicopters and the same transports so how could you or anyone possibly know that this is Ukrainian or Russian. It is impossible to see any marking so there truly is no way to verify what you have said.

Ukraine Air Force (https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force)
Russian Air Force (https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_currently_active_Russian_military_aircraft)

Also, I spent a few minutes checking the comments out (as you suggested) and 99% were condemning the invasion, did not see any comments saying anything else. I am sure there might be comments attesting to what you have said but they would be in the minority.

I am not trying to rip on you I am only attempting to keept this thread accurate and honest, I believe it is important.

You don't do your research well, the Mig-29 is out of service on Russia but Ukraine still uses it actively, No planes were flying at all in Ukraine the past days, it was all conducted through missile strikes. Also you failed to understand one thing, Russia had nothing to gain for a small strike like that one, it's not going to change *anything*, but for Ukraine is a good showcase for "brutality of the attack" to show the world

Also read this. It is well known, i hope for better than just replying back without real evidence of anything
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/heres-why-the-ghost-of-kyiv-the-ukrainian-mig-29-pilot-credited-for-having-shot-down-6-russian-jets-2x-su-35s-1x-su-27-1x-mig-29m-and-2x-su-25s-is-just-a-urban-legend/


There is no indication the VKS has deployed any kind of MiG-29s in this war. MiG-29 is on the way out of service in Russia and operated only by two training assets. The one that ‘opened fire at civilians’ (see the video HERE), was an Ukrainian example, and it ‘fired at civilians’ simply because it was targeting VKS helicopters flying low over a village (helicopters in question were BEHIND the position from which this video was taken) – with S-8 rockets fired from B-8M pods.


And this
https://www.edrmagazine.eu/retirement-of-the-ruaf-mig-29s


Since 2015, Russian Air Force is not operating MiG-29 Izdeliye (Product) 9-12 and 9-13 known as Fulcrum A and C by NATO for combat duties in its frontline units. 412th AvB from 2nd Air Force and Air Defense Command at Domna and 2nd Aviation Group of 6972nd AvB, 4th Air Force and Air Defense Command at Milerovo retired their last MiG-29s and replaced them with Su-30SM in 2013 and 2016 respectively.


Show me a link that says where and how are Mig-29 planes still used in combat, and serviced accordingly. Because there are none, and the ones that remain active are used for training and there is no possible way to send them to a combat zone, there are no facilities that can serve them for actual combat, please get informed about it before commenting. You think an airfield is magical somehow? The entire field is setup for specific planes, there are no resources to waste for one or two planes to keep around in a very short time.



Also, I spent a few minutes checking the comments out (as you suggested) and 99% were condemning the invasion, did not see any comments saying anything else. I am sure there might be comments attesting to what you have said but they would be in the minority.

Please think fast, this is what i said, this is how people are mislead :facepalm:
"Read the comment section so you see how these lies affect and direct people's opinions"

And then you come and confirm what i said, while thinking it somehow proves me wrong :facepalm:

Don't just go looking on the web for anything you can find that contradicts what was posted, do real research first, even if takes longer than 5 minutes

[Mashika]

"Zelensky agreed to talks with Kremlin, venue being discussed – Kiev"
https://www.rt.com/russia/550667-ukraine-ready-negotiate-russia/



Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is ready to start negotiating a ceasefire with Russia, his spokesperson has said, claiming that Kiev has been in touch with the Kremlin about a possible venue and the date of the talks. Moscow previously said the Ukrainian leader “disappeared” after initially agreeing to negotiations.

“I have to refute the claims that we have refused to negotiate,” Zelensky spokesman Sergii Nykyforov wrote in a Facebook post on Saturday.

“Ukraine was and remains ready to talk about ceasefire and peace” he said, insisting that currently, “the parties are consulting about the place and time of the negotiation process.”

Kiev also appeared to confirm reports that the Zelensky government had asked Tel Aviv to serve as a mediator at the talks with the Kremlin.

Ukraine’s Ambassador to Israel Yevgen Korniychuk told the New York Times that Tel Aviv has yet to respond. “They didn’t say no. They are trying to figure out where they are in this chess play,” he said, adding “We do believe that Israel is the only democratic state in the world that has great relations with both Ukraine and Russia.”



Previously, it was agreed that Minsk would be the place for the talks, then Ukraine had requested Poland to be the new location, now it is Israel. I wonder how this happened.

Positions are being setup now for the next steps in humanity. Let's see where Israel will fit in all of this

Some people spoke about Israel position on this way back, now we'll see if they were right :)

[Johnnycomelately]

That's an Ukrainian plane, Russia doesn't fly those planes. This is very well known



I couldn’t find any attack type aircraft that Ukraine flies that Russia does not. Hard to tell from the vid, or the thumbnail for the vid, but amongst the 5 Ukraine planes of this capability, it looks to me like either a Mig-29 or a Su-27. What do you see?

[Mashika]

That's an Ukrainian plane, Russia doesn't fly those planes. This is very well known



I couldn’t find any attack type aircraft that Ukraine flies that Russia does not. Hard to tell from the vid, or the thumbnail for the vid, but amongst the 5 Ukraine planes of this capability, it looks to me like either a Mig-29 or a Su-27. What do you see?

That's a Mig-29

And i have already posted above that the only remaining Mig-29 planes are in service only for training, this is well recorded and known, but in Ukraine those are still in full combat service (training planes are not combat ready)

If people think a plane can just be started and can flight just because, then they need to learn more about this entire thing. Fighter jets require lots of work to keep them able to flight. Bases need lots of resource to serve specific planes, it's not magical like just switch it on and there it goes

Here's another example of a fake

https://twitter.com/berojag59060636/status/1497143943573565440

Soon called on it
https://twitter.com/unknown_bandit/status/1497145501946318849

[Tigger]

Apologies if this video has been posted before, but it think it offers an important perspective on the manufactured conflict:

MRQqhY2e39mF/

[Mashika]

Ukrainian army is in so much disarray, they have tried to shoot down one of their own planes using American made weapons. Once again a Mig-29

"The Ukrainian military is trying to shoot down an enemy fighter, which later turns out to be its MiG-29"
https://t.me/russia/1323

[Johnnycomelately]

That's a Mig-29

And i have already posted above that the only remaining Mig-29 planes are in service only for training, this is well recorded and known, but in Ukraine those are still in full combat service (training planes are not combat ready)

If people think a plane can just be started and can flight just because, then they need to learn more about this entire thing. Fighter jets require lots of work to keep them able to flight. Bases need lots of resource to serve specific planes, it's not magical like just switch it on and there it goes

Here's another example of a fake

https://twitter.com/berojag59060636/status/1497143943573565440

Soon called on it
https://twitter.com/unknown_bandit/status/1497145501946318849

The YouTube comments are divided, lots of commenters say it is not a game rendering (interesting read BTW, thank you). I don’t game, but what has this maybe-hoax vid have to do with your original vid?

[Mashika]

That's a Mig-29

And i have already posted above that the only remaining Mig-29 planes are in service only for training, this is well recorded and known, but in Ukraine those are still in full combat service (training planes are not combat ready)

If people think a plane can just be started and can flight just because, then they need to learn more about this entire thing. Fighter jets require lots of work to keep them able to flight. Bases need lots of resource to serve specific planes, it's not magical like just switch it on and there it goes

Here's another example of a fake

https://twitter.com/berojag59060636/status/1497143943573565440

Soon called on it
https://twitter.com/unknown_bandit/status/1497145501946318849

The YouTube comments are divided, lots of commenters say it is not a game rendering (interesting read BTW, thank you). I don’t game, but what has this maybe-hoax vid have to do with your original vid?

I thought i already explained. All those fakes are meant to direct people into specific mindsets about what's happening. It's meant to lead people into supporting one side. I don't understand what this is not clear

Didn't i say 3 times now
"Read the comment section so you see how these lies affect and direct people's opinions"
???

What else is left to say, i also have provided more evidence of this fact of manipulation. The comments were the proof itself. It doesn't matter if it's divided, the video is a fake, the poster lead people into believing a blatant lie, the people agreeing do not know the video is fake. They still will support something they have no clue about. How hard is to figure this out?

People are being mislead into supporting a Nazi government, thinking they are supporting "democracy and freedom". They have no clue what happened in Donbass for 8 years, they have not seen any of it because unlike just now that information was not provided to them

Please explain to me what is left to say

Be specific, please

[onawah]

Alert: Ukraine chemical time bomb; warning to Putin and the Ukraine military
by Jon Rappoport
February 25, 2022
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2022/02/25/alert-ukraine-chemical-time-bomb-warning-to-putin-and-the-ukraine-military/

"THERE ARE MANY STORAGE DEPOTS ALL OVER THE UKRAINE, WHERE DANGEROUS AND BANNED PESTICIDES HAVE BEEN KEPT BADLY FOR YEARS.

Bombing and shelling that happens to strike these depots would cause devastating consequences.

In 2009 (see also here), I researched the problem of pesticides in the Ukraine. Use is not the only issue; so is storage. And the scope and danger are huge.

Here is what I found:

Tamara Gurzhiy, “Expired and prohibited pesticides problem in Ukraine,” Independent Agency for Ecological Information, Kharkiv, Ukraine (English translation):

“Twenty thousand to 25,000 t [tons] of expired or prohibited pesticides are stored on 4,000 Ukrainian depots. This is a serious threat for people and environment. Arsenic compounds are highly toxic for cattle. Death comes within several hours…Majority of pesticide depots were not designed for long-term usage. Chemicals are stolen and illegally sold to people. Depots’ roofs collapsed over the time, pesticides’ wrapping gets [out of] of order, pesticides of different nature may become [a] catalyst of spontaneous chemical reactions with unpredictable results. Spontaneous fire may spread toxins on a wide area. Utilization of expired and prohibited pesticides is Ukrainian national problem.”

Indeed, there was a fire in 2009.

Simferopol, October 17 (Interfax-Ukraine): “A storehouse with pesticide in Dzhankoi (Crimea) is on fire…around 200 tonnes of pesticide and magnesium chloride…around 40 tonnes of pesticide was taken from the storehouse…” How extensive were the toxic clouds? Was this the real reason for fake 2009 reports of a million people ill in the Ukraine with Swine Flu?

“BRNO, Czech Republic, Sept. 23, 2009 /CNW/ – According to Milieukontakts Partner IHPA (the International HCH and Pesticides Association) the health of at least 7 million inhabitants in Moldavia and Ukraine is seriously threatened by a stock of old pesticides. IHPA calls for fast EU action to disarm this ‘biggest chemical time bomb of Europe’.”

“…[in] the former Kalush factory in the west of Ukraine there is a stock of no less than 10,000 tonnes of superfluous Hexachlorobenzene (HCB). It’s particularly the positioning along the Dniester river that makes the situation extremely hazardous: a single flood and the high concentrations of poison would pollute the natural habitat of some 7 million people in the west of Ukraine and Moldavia.”

“In total, tens of millions of inhabitants in Europe, Central Asia and the former Soviet Union are being threatened by pesticides. In Ukraine alone there are 4,500 storage locations with more than 30,000 tonnes of old pesticides, a legacy from the Soviet era. The substances have been prohibited since 2001. As a rule the packaging only lasts five to ten years. If nothing happens in that time, then the substances could simply end up in the soil or in the water…”

Today (2/25/22) I looked for evidence that these horrendous problems in the Ukraine have been solved. So far, I haven’t found any. However, I did come across a 2020 study, “Environmental monitoring and recommendations on decreasing the levels of pesticide pollution in Zhytomyr region of Ukraine”:https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340836543_Environmental_monitoring_and_recommendations_on_decreasing_the_levels_of_pesticide_polluti on_in_Zhytomyr_region_of_Ukraine

“Environmental monitoring was conducted of facilities for storage and disposal of banned and unsuitable pesticides. Pesticide content in the soil, water, and products of agriculture in the Zhytomyr region of Ukraine was examined, and the accumulation of organochlorine pesticides by freshwater bivalve mollusks was assessed. Storage facilities of the Zhytomyr region contain nearly 392.18 t [tons] of pesticides in 137 warehouses, of which 11 meet the requirements, 36 are tolerable, and 90 are in poor condition…”

Not encouraging.

I doubt the Russians or even the Ukrainians have supplied precise maps of all these pesticide depots to their military commanders.

WATCH OUT."

[Mashika]

For everyone who wants to see truth, please go look into this channel

https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina

There is some truth there, if you want to truly know about reality. Or not if you are at peace with your life and whatever the news say

But consider this, you may not like what you see there. Be fair

[Mashika]

Western style democracy at work

https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/1497097389521342464


"We will have jobs—they will not. We will have pensions—they will not. [....] Our children will go to schools and kindergartens—theirs will hide in the basements"


Do you support this? Because that was reality until a couple days ago, for people in Donbass.

Question, where was the UN and the united democratic countries while that was happening? No one knew? No one cared? Please explain in your own words

The time for beating around the bushes and pretending to be fake diplomatic to ignore the main issue and look for simplistic explanations that help you get out of the problem is over. Now it is reality, it's time for this suffering to end

[Mashika]

Where where the lamenting and prayers for them back then?
https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/1496923992954851337

I remember that, most people could not care less

"Life is like this", 'If only we could do something", "Don't let your head get hot about this", "solutions always come through this or that, let's not think much about it, i'm sure justice will be made"

Where is it now? Talk is cheap

[Mashika]

This picture was recently posted on Twitter claiming it was from Ukraine, and children "hiding from the violent russian attacks on Ukraine"

What kind of low life does something like that?

"Children of war hiding in a cellar in Donbass, 2014, is the quintessential image of the region’s suffering that the western establishment would rather ignore. A conflict longer than WWII.

📷 Photojournalist Andy Rochelli who died under Ukrainian Army’s fire with his interpreter"
https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/1496640134606819328

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Rocchelli


Rocchelli was killed in Andriivka, Ukraine, near Sloviansk, on 24 May 2014 while reporting on the war in Donbas. He was travelling with the human rights activist and interpreter Andrei Mironov (also died in the attack), a French photo reporter, and a local driver. When they stopped to take some pictures near a railway line, the group was attacked with automatic weapons and mortar fire from the "Karachun" hill, where the Ukrainian army was stationed.The Italian authorities described the attack that killed both Mironov and Rocchelli as murder.

The last pictures Rocchelli took before his death precisely document the attack that killed him and Mironov and permanently injured Roguelon. These photographs testify to the duration of the shootings, the morphology of the area, and the civilian clothing worn by the victims

[Johnnycomelately]

That's a Mig-29

And i have already posted above that the only remaining Mig-29 planes are in service only for training, this is well recorded and known, but in Ukraine those are still in full combat service (training planes are not combat ready)

If people think a plane can just be started and can flight just because, then they need to learn more about this entire thing. Fighter jets require lots of work to keep them able to flight. Bases need lots of resource to serve specific planes, it's not magical like just switch it on and there it goes

Here's another example of a fake

https://twitter.com/berojag59060636/status/1497143943573565440

Soon called on it
https://twitter.com/unknown_bandit/status/1497145501946318849

The YouTube comments are divided, lots of commenters say it is not a game rendering (interesting read BTW, thank you). I don’t game, but what has this maybe-hoax vid have to do with your original vid?

I thought i already explained. All those fakes are meant to direct people into specific mindsets about what's happening. It's meant to lead people into supporting one side. I don't understand what this is not clear

Didn't i say 3 times now
"Read the comment section so you see how these lies affect and direct people's opinions"
???

What else is left to say, i also have provided more evidence of this fact of manipulation. The comments were the proof itself. It doesn't matter if it's divided, the video is a fake, the poster lead people into believing a blatant lie, the people agreeing do not know the video is fake. They still will support something they have no clue about. How hard is to figure this out?

People are being mislead into supporting a Nazi government, thinking they are supporting "democracy and freedom". They have no clue what happened in Donbass for 8 years, they have not seen any of it because unlike just now that information was not provided to them

Please explain to me what is left to say

Be specific, please

The more you elaborate, the less convincing you are. Too many words. Not saying you’re not for real, but your message seems corrupt. Maybe keep it trimmed.

About me: I can believe that Ukraine is a cesspool. I also don’t trust Russian leadership, nor any world leadership actually. Your news of 13k dead in E Ukraine, with western talkers & media silent, does not surprise me. However, I hold anyone, including you, in suspicion. Nothing personal.

[Agape]

One thing I’ve realised in past decade or two is a kind of evolutionary dichotomy we are witnessing that concerns today’s middle age and younger generations of the civilised world,
while on one hand there is still bunch of renegades, pirates, guerrilla fighters and nearly primitive barbarians engaged in war against the world, the civilised part of society has turned super-civilised, sublime and feminine, incapable to fight or defend themselves other than on their screens, perhaps.
The simple scene struck me once when I was accidentally returning to Prague after many years of journey and right at the airport , I see this too well fed young man in his thirties, family man , panicking around , struggling to push trolley.

Quite like some of the very recent scenes from Kiev displayed a generation of people who are hundred percent civilised, would not kill a fly, dependant on their cars and comfort zones, most probably on vegan diet ( pun intended )...and mostly , fleeing the scene because fight incapable.


It’s drastic to see but not unpredictably so the same would happen in any European and North American country of today .


Cheers Ma ⛑

[Mashika]

The more you elaborate, the less convincing you are. Too many words. Not saying you’re not for real, but your message seems corrupt. Maybe keep it trimmed.

This is just a natural effect of your lack of willingness to look at the facts, you can't spend 20 seconds reading something? Or are you looking for excuses to run away from the truth?

I would expect you to be able to focus for at least 5 minutes into something important, but if this is too wordy for you, then you may be part of the current western illness of "too short attention spans". I don't know, look into it yourself

But honestly, it looks more like passive aggressive immature insults thrown at me. Out of lack of a valid response otherwise

Imagine if you would have to read a book about this then, how many pages would you go through before giving up? I expected more, honestly

This is not a real reason to dismiss me, it's more like a "i can't follow so i'm going to assume you are wrong and give up because this is beyond me" way to handle the issue



About me: I can believe that Ukraine is a cesspool. I also don’t trust Russian leadership, nor any world leadership actually. Your news of 13k dead in E Ukraine, with western talkers & media silent, does not surprise me. However, I hold anyone, including you, in suspicion. Nothing personal.
None taken, but don't do what you did above, it just doesn't follow to a good conversation if you plainly say "i'm going to assume you are corrupt because i could not bother to read 3 lines of text and figure out the evidence on my own"

Actually, you ignoring and skipping over all of it makes you the one that looks suspicious. Do you even care or are you just toeing the line?

I'm posting facts with evidence, you are just returning with "i don't know, i don't have any reason or anything to claim you wrong, but i don't know"

I would expect people here to be able to do better than that

[Mashika]

I often wonder why people dislike seeing factual evidence and rather look away then wait for the mainstream media to come tell them what they want to see, rather than what they need to see

[Mashika]

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497329762729091078

Don't let the lies take over your soul, heart and mind. Look deep into everything being said all over

https://twitter.com/johnpilger/status/1497336462605389828

Hope you are doing well and feel safe

:highfive::waving::flower::heart:

[Johnnycomelately]

The more you elaborate, the less convincing you are. Too many words. Not saying you’re not for real, but your message seems corrupt. Maybe keep it trimmed.

This is just a natural effect of your lack of willingness to look at the facts, you can't spend 20 seconds reading something? Or are you looking for excuses to run away from the truth?

I would expect you to be able to focus for at least 5 minutes into something important, but if this is too wordy for you, then you may be part of the current western illness of "too short attention spans". I don't know, look into it yourself

But honestly, it looks more like passive aggressive immature insults thrown at me. Out of lack of a valid response otherwise

Imagine if you would have to read a book about this then, how many pages would you go through before giving up? I expected more, honestly

This is not a real reason to dismiss me, it's more like a "i can't follow sou i'm going to assume you are wrong and give up because this is beyond me" way to handle the issue



About me: I can believe that Ukraine is a cesspool. I also don’t trust Russian leadership, nor any world leadership actually. Your news of 13k dead in E Ukraine, with western talkers & media silent, does not surprise me. However, I hold anyone, including you, in suspicion. Nothing personal.
None taken, but don't do what you did above, it just doesn't follow to a good conversation if you plainly say "i'm going to assume you are corrupt because i could not bother to read 3 lines of text and figure out the evidence on my own"

Actually, you ignoring and skipping over all of it makes you the one that looks suspicious. Do you even care or are you just toeing the line?

I'm posting facts with evidence, you are just returning with "i don't know, i don't have any reason or anything to claim you wrong, but i don't know"

I would expect people here to be able to do better than that

This is the most gentle ad hominem I’ve ever been schooled with. Don’t know whether to laugh or feel indignant (cry).

I am nobody. Why do you care so much about what I think? Besides your info nuggets, which we (many here at PA, at least) appreciate, what is in this talk for you?

Edit: “This *is*...”

[Violet3]

More from J.R. Nyquist, published today. As I mentioned a few hours ago (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1485101&viewfull=1#post1485101), Nyquist's view of the history and background (and of US agendas) doesn't agree with that of many other analysts.


https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/02/25/the-war-in-ukraine-interview-with-the-populist-patriot (https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/02/25/the-war-in-ukraine-interview-with-the-populist-patriot/)

The War in Ukraine: Interview With the Populist Patriot

…Russia overcame the inertia of collapse and started reviving its power, while the West, being lulled by sweet day-dreams of the liberal ‘end of history,’ castrated its armed forces to the point, when they could be good [only] for leading colonial wars with weak and technically backward enemies. The balance of forces in Europe has thus changed in Russia’s favor.
— Pravda, 13 November 2014The headline of the Pravda article cited above reads, “Russia takes complete advantage of castrated armed forces of the West.” We also read in that same Russian article, “The illusion of world supremacy played a cruel joke on Washington.” We must ask a question here: Who fostered the illusion of American world supremacy? What country supposedly quit the business of nuclear competition, the business of communist subversion, the business of the Cold War? Russia supposedly quit. But they did not quit!

Nevertheless, we find Tucker Carlson and Patrick Buchanan saying that we have been unfair to Russia, that we have needlessly provoked Vladimir Putin, tricking the Russians with false promises. No. The Russians tricked us. And they were already laughing at us in November 2014.

America wanted to believe that the nightmare threat of Mutual Assured Destruction was a thing of the past. The Americans never wanted a conflict with Russia, or with China. The Americans wanted to live in peace. But we will not be living in peace. The war is coming to us whether we want it or not. And the war has now begun in Ukraine and there will be additional moves.

Here is my discussion with Nevin Gussack of the Populist Patriot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqfzjiB0sUk

Wow great interview, which totally expanded my awareness of what is probably going on. Nyquist is an outsider like Rappaport, I gather, who has been laying down an alternative analysis of Russia vs USA that has found no support except on the very fringes. But how what he says sounds so well informed and alarming.
I wonder if there is a copy of the Nyquist book referred to here, Origins of the Fourth World War? i would really like to read it now.

In thinking about what happens if in the longer term Russia succeeds in overtaking the West and between them Russia and China divide it up? Certainly explains a bit about what has been going on politically in Australia, with so much of the totalitarian behaviour, not to mention the sale of our key national assets to China. :facepalm:

[Johan (Keyholder)]

It's on Amazon... Nyquist's book... for € 334. A bit pricey.

[Mashika]

The more you elaborate, the less convincing you are. Too many words. Not saying you’re not for real, but your message seems corrupt. Maybe keep it trimmed.

This is just a natural effect of your lack of willingness to look at the facts, you can't spend 20 seconds reading something? Or are you looking for excuses to run away from the truth?

I would expect you to be able to focus for at least 5 minutes into something important, but if this is too wordy for you, then you may be part of the current western illness of "too short attention spans". I don't know, look into it yourself

But honestly, it looks more like passive aggressive immature insults thrown at me. Out of lack of a valid response otherwise

Imagine if you would have to read a book about this then, how many pages would you go through before giving up? I expected more, honestly

This is not a real reason to dismiss me, it's more like a "i can't follow sou i'm going to assume you are wrong and give up because this is beyond me" way to handle the issue



About me: I can believe that Ukraine is a cesspool. I also don’t trust Russian leadership, nor any world leadership actually. Your news of 13k dead in E Ukraine, with western talkers & media silent, does not surprise me. However, I hold anyone, including you, in suspicion. Nothing personal.
None taken, but don't do what you did above, it just doesn't follow to a good conversation if you plainly say "i'm going to assume you are corrupt because i could not bother to read 3 lines of text and figure out the evidence on my own"

Actually, you ignoring and skipping over all of it makes you the one that looks suspicious. Do you even care or are you just toeing the line?

I'm posting facts with evidence, you are just returning with "i don't know, i don't have any reason or anything to claim you wrong, but i don't know"

I would expect people here to be able to do better than that

This is the most gentle ad hominem I’ve ever been schooled with. Don’t know whether to laugh or feel indignant (cry).

I am nobody. Why do you care so much about what I think? Besides your info nuggets, which we (many here at PA, at least) appreciate, what is in this talk for you?

Edit: “This *is*...”

I got my teenage years stolen by the US and the Nazi Ukraine government the west supported. I did not get a chance to be normal or grow up in whatever you consider normal, therefore i am sometimes extremely unstable and childish like, so much that some of you here on Avalon like to pick on that and constantly criticize, every single reply i see from you guys is just the same lame attack

I will tell you off and i truly don't care about whatever you think, you speak out of your ignorance of real facts and based only on whatever you read or watched.

I may be immature around old ass adults that are so lame they try to attack me because they fear their little fragile world built on lies crumbling and in their weak mindset. A bunch so desperate that in desperate attempt to keep themselves safe they attack like rabid dogs anyone who says things they don't like

Well i'm sorry you are not an adult able to deal with reality and consequences. But once again. THAT'S ON YOU

I'm immature, and dumb and stupid, i have never denied it, and like i said, i never had my chance to be a ridiculous ignorant adult because that chance got stolen from me. I wasn't shielded from any of it, so i did not grow up fat and slow or mindless, i'm sorry i failed your standards lol

That's my excuse. What's your excuse to be immature as a teenager while acting an old *ass adult?

ETA:

It does look like you are truly incapable of discussing facts, since just as others before you, here you are discussing me instead of the information being published.
This is a weak approach to the problem being discussed on this thread

Don't you feel like a kid trying to argue in the playground after school? Because you totally are

I posted evidence, with facts that you ignore in an attempt to run away from reality, i can see that, and even if you don't realise it, it's plently obvious.



what is in this talk for you?

It explains itself, i have posted all necessary info for everyone to see what's going on.

Please start thinking fast, you don't exactly have all the time in the world, and neither do i, why are you wasting my time with this very low level stuff?

ETA #2:

I can't help to wonder, why a very old grown ass adult, who probably have kids my own age, feels entitled to attack me here just because they can't deal with reality?

Does it feel well being 40/50+ years old and being so lame that attacking someone almost or very likely less than half your age makes your day? Are you so weak and uneducated to think this is ok and cool?

So this is the level of 'education' and 'maturity' of the west 'adults'. Grown up kids? i hope not, but it may explain why some things are the way they are, This is not the first time i see this, plenty of this has happened before, Tantrums and so on

There is a joke that is thrown around the Russian government house, and in other European and Asian nations

It goes something like this "we need a higher door because the US president is visiting, he's 3 kids stacked over each other under a trench coat"

This represents the real view of the west. I don't think that's a lie anymore

[Mashika]

This thread is being damaged by constant personal attacks, pure garbage, i don't even understand how people who are supposed to 'act' the adult part are so weak they actually act the middle school kid part just because they don't like what i'm posting

Grow up already, you had plenty of time to do that. And stop attacking me because you are weak, look into your mirror

Sorry if i offended weak people but at least you didn't get yourself blown up by a bomb, you still get to express yourselves, unlike other people who have been silenced long ago

So let's rest and watch

I thank all the people who cared to see and learn and watch, everyone is/should be able to make up their own minds in the end

Taking a break from here now, I did not expect so much hate disguised as "opinions", but there it is and this entire issue is bringing up very terrible things i fought very hard to leave behind in the past years. Does look like some people enjoy harming more than learning, as seen here

I can't deal with this non-sense, i have plenty already to deal with. I can't deal with man child attitudes. If their moms could not, much more less would i. And that's the end of it

So hope you get to see more unbiased truth, or in whatever case watch and discern. Because being able to discern leads to the final truth

Bye

[Tintin]

No less an authority on these matters, here recommended by Vanessa Beeley.

Andrei Martyanov – the WEF, the NWO and Russia

ANDREI MARTYANOV (https://www.claritypress.com/book-author/andrei-martyanov/) is an expert on Russian military and naval issues. He was born in Baku, USSR in 1963. He graduated from the Kirov Naval Red Banner Academy and served as an officer on the ships and staff position of Soviet Coast Guard through 1990. He took part in the events in the Caucasus which led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. In mid-1990s he moved to the United States where he currently works as Laboratory Director in a commercial aerospace group. He is a frequent blogger on the US Naval Institute Blog. He is author of Losing Military Supremacy, The (Real) Revolution in Military Affairs, and Disintegration: Indicators of the Coming American Collapse.

Also worth watching the video before this one, here: New New World Order and War Crimes Tribunal Are Coming (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbNVIbAgJ1Q&t=4s)

“Martyanov shows that America’s disintegration is irreversible because the ruling elites are an organic part of the calamitous sources of dysfunction that have destroyed the country…The destruction of American unity and foundational beliefs is only one reason that the United States is disintegrating. Martyanov provides a number of other causes of our disintegration. One is that not only the US but the entirety of the Western world is no longer capable of providing competent leadership. This failure is general and not limited to government. Martyanov likens the Western world to a “Warhol can of Campbell’s Soup, which is nothing more than a ‘school of pretense.’” The West’s 15 minutes of fame is up.””

PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Video: LDNR Recognized, New New World Order Unfolds (https://youtu.be/lXfMOCWclEY)

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And another great article here:

Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine in Perspective
vanessa beeley / 3 hours ago
Source: The Wall Will Fall (https://thewallwillfall.org/2022/02/26/russias-invasion-of-ukraine-in-perspective/)

Excellent analysis from Scott Ritter (https://www.energyintel.com/0000017f-307c-d3e7-a17f-f1fdfee40000):

After decades of ignoring Russia’s national security concerns, the West is confronted with a military invasion of Ukraine which serves as a precursor for a new Cold War that will define Russia’s relationship with the West for years to come.

Let there be no mistake, on Feb. 24, the world awoke to a new reality. Prior to this date, Russia was treated by the West as an annoyance, belittled by economic and even military elites as little more than a “giant gas station masquerading as a nation,” to quote John McCain, the now-deceased senator from Arizona.

Russian President Vladimir Putin had been subjected to a series of sophomoric psychological profiles that trivialized Russian national concerns as little more than the psychotic whim of a troubled individual. The caricatures that emerged of the Russian state and its leadership colored the analysis of Russia’s oft-stated concerns over what it viewed as its legitimate national security.

This blinded the West to the reality of what was transpiring. Because no one took Russia seriously, no one could imagine a large-scale ground war in Europe. So everyone was taken by surprise when such a conflict broke out.

How We Got Here

Ever since Nato had opened the door to membership for Ukraine and Georgia during the 2008 Bucharest summit, Russia has been making its vehement opposition known.

William Burns, the former US Ambassador to Russia and now director of the CIA, captured the Russian sentiment in a February 2009 memorandum: “Nyet means nyet: Russia’s Nato enlargement red lines.” Russia, Burns noted, viewed “farther eastward expansion as a potential military threat,” giving rise to Russian fears that “the issue could potentially split the country [Ukraine] in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene.”

One need only to look at what has transpired in Donetsk and Luhansk, and Russia’s current military operation in Ukraine, to understand how prescient Burns’ cable was.

Burns, however, was ignored. So, too, was Putin, who had been lecturing the West ever since his landmark speech at the 2007 Munich Security Conference, where he famously called out the US for having “overstepped its national borders in every way.” Putin declared, “This is visible in the economic, political, cultural and educational policies it imposes on other nations. Well, who likes this? Who is happy about this?” He was greeted by silence.

“I am convinced,” Putin told the assembled leadership of the Western world, “that we have reached that decisive moment when we must seriously think about the architecture of global security. And we must proceed by searching for a reasonable balance between the interests of all participants in the international dialogue.”

At Munich, the Russian president warned that Western polices “stimulate an arms race.” He repeatedly warned the US and Nato that President George W. Bush’s precipitous decision to withdraw from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty and then to deploy anti-missile defense systems in two Nato countries, Poland and Romania, posed a direct threat to Russian national security.

In 2018, Putin unveiled new types of Russian strategic nuclear weapons designed to defeat US missile defenses. “No one has listened to us,” Putin declared at the time. “You listen to us now.”

Putin’s 2018 nuclear announcement should have alerted the West to a critical aspect of the Russian president’s personality. “You will have to assess that new reality and become convinced that what I said today isn’t a bluff … trust me,” Putin said at the time.

Nyet means nyet. It was a simple message laid out in uncomplicated terms. Russia was not bluffing. Yet the US and Nato brushed off the Russian concerns, operating under the premise that their principle of an “open-door” policy regarding Nato membership somehow trumped Russian concerns about its national security.

Perception management overtook reality, as Nato tried to sell Russia on the notion that it had nothing to fear, since Nato was ostensibly a defensive alliance. The US and Nato shrugged off Russia’s narrative, which cited Nato’s bombing of Belgrade in 1999, deployment to Afghanistan in 2001, and intervention in Libya in 2011 as prima facie evidence that post-Cold War Nato had morphed into an offensively oriented military alliance whose presence on Russia’s borders constituted an existential threat.

Nato membership remained on the table for Ukraine and Georgia. Moreover, Nato began arming and training the militaries of these former Soviet republics, integrating them into formal Nato exercises that transformed the Ukrainian and Georgian militaries into de facto Nato proxies. Indeed, Ukrainian and Georgian troops deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan were under the Nato flag.

Russian sensitivities were heightened following the Maidan Revolution of 2014, which saw a pro-Russian president replaced by a decidedly pro-Western Ukrainian government that made Nato membership a legal mandate.

As Burns had predicted, Ukraine’s push for Nato membership pushed Russia into a corner, prompting a demand by Russia, submitted to the US and Nato in December 2021, calling for written security guarantees that Ukraine would never join Nato. This Russian demand was ignored. Russia warned that failure to provide the demanded security guarantees would result in “military-technical” responses — a euphemism for war, which Russia implemented in full on Feb. 24.

Where We Are Going

The major takeaway from this unfolding situation should be that Russia’s president does not bluff, and that the West would do well to listen closely to what he has to say. As Russian troops poured across the Ukrainian border, Western diplomats and pundits proclaimed shock and dismay. But Russia had been clear about what it wanted, and what the consequences of failing to get that would be. This war was predictable, if only the West had listened.

The fighting rages in Ukraine. How this war will end is uncertain. The old military adage that no plan survives initial contact with the enemy applies in full. What is known is that the US and Europe are imposing a second tranche of hard-hitting sanctions designed to punish Russia.

It is important to point out that anyone who believed this second round of sanctions would compel a change in Russian behavior will be disappointed. Russia’s course of action has incorporated the full range of sanctions planned by the West — not a difficult task, since there had been wide speculation about their scope since sanctions were first threatened in spring 2021.

The problem isn’t the sanctions, but what follows. These sanctions exhaust the options the US, Nato and the EU have for responding to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. They have no follow-on plan. Russia, on the other hand, has such a plan. It has been very clear about what the future holds. Again, however, the West has not been listening.

Russia will not take this second tranche of sanctions laying down. Putin has made clear that Russia will respond in kind, using symmetrical (i.e., countersanctions) and asymmetrical (i.e., cyberattacks) actions designed to disrupt the economies of targeted nations and entities. Russia has made no secret that this is its intended course of action, but as with its “military-technical” solution for Ukraine, the West shrugged off the Russian threat. Russia, however, does not bluff.

Russia has also made clear that its security guarantees go beyond preventing Ukraine from joining Nato and include the return of Nato’s military infrastructure to pre-1997 levels. In short, all Nato forces deployed into Eastern Europe must be returned to their home bases, and the two missile defense sites in Poland and Romania dismantled.

This is the demand that will drive future Russian relations with the West. Rather than acceding to Russia’s demands, Nato has been doubling down on the reinforcement of its eastern flank, dispatching additional forces to Poland, Romania and the Baltics.

In response, Russia will create an analogous situation to what transpired in Belarus, namely the forward deployment of powerful Russian military formations in what will be, for all practical purposes, a militarized buffer zone separating Nato from Russia proper, with the exception of the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad.

The resulting standoff will closely resemble the Cold War, where Nato and Soviet-led Warsaw Pact forces faced off across the frontier separating East and West Germany. This is the new reality that the world woke up to on Feb. 24 — a Cold War that the West neither wanted, predicted nor is prepared to undertake.

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Scott Ritter is a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer whose service over a 20-plus-year career included tours of duty in the former Soviet Union implementing arms control agreements, serving on the staff of US Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf during the Gulf War and later as a chief weapons inspector with the UN in Iraq from 1991-98.

[Mashika]

Here you go, this should not have ever happened, but it did because of the poison the west injected into otherwise friendly nations. This is the result of it all

*I don't know how to embed this video, it doesn't look like there's a way, the MOV tag doesn't work for me, so just click on it and please let me know if it doesn't work, it's a direct link so it will probably open on another tab in your browser

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*Mod edit from Tintin: yes, pretty impossible as there is no recognised movie file extension. I've linked it to my folder in the library so it can be played here now.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOP-ybhfWJoCgyUwVfNw-zbfx_9xR_za0Afca0SuYRvaAgg5HNLvtRqOFhKxCho1w/photo/AF1QipM5rlc-NSHDO4GuUV1YkNxHSnZoqFbgHehwx85c?key=bmw5bEJ4MzM2QnE5d2VTU1VGaE93eW1kY3dpQWlR

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/ukraine.mp4

Here's a preview of it. This disdain and plain hate for the Ukrainian flag is a direct cause of the attacks in Donbass, they, even being Ukrainian by being born there, hate that flag. This is how division looks like. Hope this is a wake up signal for people reading this. There was no need for this

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVY3HvpCjxLg4uqwlAjY5zOKlWxMyoC1yVjKifGUTcIxW8rIB1XhI0ErVb1MvuzVfYj-__Had88pFdiZyfjtvVa_3wNg0vGboPtRJTUB8Krbz4UUlpzcjSTouNJI5VmeETJs32G2loPNpY3MMnlMO8y=w480-h848-no?authuser=0

Please allow me to repeat again. Before the west's intervention and coup of Ukraine, this was not how people felt, this poisoning of relationships was grown after, and we all know where it came from and who made it possible.

The time for "maybe there's an explanation" or "we'll figure it out with diplomacy" is over, that time was over 8 years ago. Time to grow up, this is the result of neglecting reality for so long

[Spiral]

I often wonder why people dislike seeing factual evidence and rather look away then wait for the mainstream media to come tell them what they want to see, rather than what they need to see

That is so good I'm tempted to steal it for my signature.

I follow this thread because it has info on it I'm not likely to otherwise come across, but I'm disappointed in the bickering & opinions based on disinfo on here that are basically the same MO as found in ufology. (The gold standard for disinfo & pointless opinions).

Yesterday on the first day of the conflict I got to work at 7.30 & because I was driving that day I had to reset the radio channel from the previous driver, I saw that the BBC world service was on there so I put it on, knowing that the media often tells you things it won't do once the spin machine kicks in.

Amazingly that is what happened, they were telling the truth & having some extremely interesting people on, from both sides in Ukraine, they were all intelligent, calm & remarkably honest. What they were saying matched what you have been saying.

Then it started to change, I can only imagine someone woke up & started screaming at the producers down the phone when they heard it, as it neared 9 am it became un-listenable as the pundits became ever more infantile & emotive.

Why this is happening & why it's only going to be the Ukraine is clear for anyone who has grasped what you have been saying, however that is the last thing that the corrupt deep state & NATO wants anyone to know for far more reasons than what has been happening there.

Everyone needs to see the banned documentary on Operation Gladio to know how "the good guys" , the "free world" (vaxx pasports please) really works, then this might make sense.

As for Putin being WEF, well, we'll see, he might well have gone there to understand western thinking....

[Tintin]

I thoroughly recommend the audio conversation between Vanessa and Eva Bartlett, and Eva's experiences on-the-ground in the Donbass. Not in a brightly lit studio with a tele-prompter narrative supplied by Thomson Reuters, but actually on-the-ground.

It's very educational as she recounts the 2014 experiences of citizens in the Donbass and Crimea.

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Donbass_and_Crimea_an_insider_view_from_journalist_Eva_Bartlett_w_Vanessa_Beeley_2022-02-22.mp3

Recorded February 22nd, 2022, 2 days before the actual recent invasion.

Source: The Wall Will Fall (https://thewallwillfall.org/2022/02/23/donbass-and-crimea-an-insider-view-from-journalist-eva-bartlett/)

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Donbass and Crimea – an insider view from journalist Eva Bartlett

Audio on Soundcloud (https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?visual=true&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F1220983528&show_artwork=true&maxheight=1000&maxwidth=700)

Today I speak with friend, colleague and outstanding on-the-ground journalist, Eva Bartlett.



In 2019 Eva visited Donbass, Ukraine and Crimea. As always Eva brings out the heart of the situation from the people that are being “disappeared” by the criminal legacy media outlets in service to US/UK/NATO predator foreign policy.

This was written by Eva in 2019 relating to the photo I used for this interview:

"Man in centre is DPR press officer and proud father, man furthest away is brave Gorlovka defender, based on front lines of Zaitsevo.

Press officer: “It’s a pity for me that Western media and the world don’t realize there is a Nazi state in the middle of Europe in the 21st Century. They support it and they cannot… When you release Nazis, its something you cannot control, you release a monster, like a Frankenstein creature. You release it and you cannot control them.

It’s a pity that we’re not here fighting together against Nazis. They are dangerous both for us and for the western world. If they finish with us, they will do the same to the western world.

The Western countries support the war crimes, support the killing of our people just because we speak our native language: Russian. That’s the only reason to kill us, just because we like Russia and speak Russian.

I was raised believing in the western ideals of human rights and democracy. And what do I have? I have no human rights. Ukrainian Nazis can kill me and they can go to European Parliament and they will be considered as heroes. They can kill without court, without justice, without anything.

They think we are traitors and Russian agents who betrayed the great Ukrainian nation.

They can kill you. They consider all the journalists as Russian propagandists. Their military can shoot you and never face justice. That goes against my understanding of human rights, that’s not the way I imagined things.”"

[Mashika]

Zelensky has escaped Kiev, leaving behind the people and the army to deal with the situation themselves

"So long and thanks for all the fish" applies very well this moment :) Sorry, could not resist...

[Mashika]

I often wonder why people dislike seeing factual evidence and rather look away then wait for the mainstream media to come tell them what they want to see, rather than what they need to see

That is so good I'm tempted to steal it for my signature.

Please do if you like so :heart:



I follow this thread because it has info on it I'm not likely to otherwise come across, but I'm disappointed in the bickering & opinions based on disinfo on here that are basically the same MO as found in ufology. (The gold standard for disinfo & pointless opinions).

Yesterday on the first day of the conflict I got to work at 7.30 & because I was driving that day I had to reset the radio channel from the previous driver, I saw that the BBC world service was on there so I put it on, knowing that the media often tells you things it won't do once the spin machine kicks in.

Amazingly that is what happened, they were telling the truth & having some extremely interesting people on, from both sides in Ukraine, they were all intelligent, calm & remarkably honest. What they were saying matched what you have been saying.

Then it started to change, I can only imagine someone woke up & started screaming at the producers down the phone when they heard it, as it neared 9 am it became un-listenable as the pundits became ever more infantile & emotive.

Why this is happening & why it's only going to be the Ukraine is clear for anyone who has grasped what you have been saying, however that is the last thing that the corrupt deep state & NATO wants anyone to know for far more reasons than what has been happening there.

Everyone needs to see the banned documentary on Operation Gladio to know how "the good guys" , the "free world" (vaxx pasports please) really works, then this might make sense.

As for Putin being WEF, well, we'll see, he might well have gone there to understand western thinking....

I have a lot of questions about Putin, i have already mentioned his past and what family he comes from. I did here a few times but does look like no one noticed :)

I have reasons to doubt him, but i won't go into detail here, better you look into his past on your own, i already provided some clues, that's about all i can do

[mizo]

As an aside - A anagram of Vladimir Putin= I Invalid Trump.

Just thought it was quirky :bigsmile:

[Mashika]

I keep trying to go out and forget about these things, but this is truly beyond, i can't help but come post it here for your enjoyment

Zelensky may not be a true School of the Americas graduate, but he sure does speak as one of them

"We have withstood and successfully repel the enemy's attacks. The fighting continues. In many cities and districts of our state. But we know what we are protecting - the country, the land, the future of children. Kiev and the key cities around the capital are controlled by our army. The occupiers wanted to block the center of our state and put their puppets here, as in Donetsk. We have broken their plan." - Zelensky

He forgot that he was placed in power by the US and he only does what they direct him to do, even if it means sacrificing his own people. He is the very definition of a political puppet....

He still acts as if Donetsk wasn't part of Ukraine right from the beginning, ignoring the fact that the coup organized by the US is the reason that region broke out in the first place

He's turning into Juan Guaido II

[ByTheNorthernSea]

Zelensky has escaped Kiev, leaving behind the people and the army to deal with the situation themselves

"So long and thanks for all the fish" applies very well this moment :) Sorry, could not resist...

Really? Where's your proof of this?

Just a simple Twitter search shows nothing of the kind.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Zelensky&src=typed_query&f=live

Your sources may be more up to date or accurate than this, so please provide some evidence for your claim. Otherwise please don't post misinformation...

[Vangelo]

The first casualty of war is truth... That is for sure. Here is an example of conflicting reports from this morning...

Source: https://www.toddstarnes.com (https://www.toddstarnes.com/military-2/i-need-ammo-not-a-ride-ukraines-president-rejects-us-evacuation-offer/)


‘I NEED AMMO, NOT A RIDE!’ Ukraine’s President REJECTS US Evacuation Offer

SMG News Wire
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Feb 26, 2022
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy turned down an offer from the United States to evacuate Kyiv, the capital city, the Associated Press reported late Friday.

AP reporter James La Porta said Ukraine’s president decided to stay in Kyiv and fight alongside his fellow countrymen.

“The fight is here’ I need ammunition, not a ride,” the president reportedly told American officials.

Zelenskyy has been spotted around the city wearing body armor and a helmet.

<2 twitter links in the article with pics of Zelenskyy with body armor outside>

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Zelensky has escaped Kiev, leaving behind the people and the army to deal with the situation themselves

"So long and thanks for all the fish" applies very well this moment :) Sorry, could not resist...

[s7e6e]

The truth about the vaccine bio-weapon is coming out, insurance companies are going bankrupt from the insane rise in unexpected deaths, respected laboratories around the world are confirming the ingredients are designed to kill or enslave.

The conflict in Ukraine is a smokescreen to distract public's opinion from the REAL stories, the culling and enslavement of the human race.

[Spiral]

Please do if you like so :heart:



Thank you :yo:







As for Putin being WEF, well, we'll see, he might well have gone there to understand western thinking....

I have a lot of questions about Putin, i have already mentioned his past and what family he comes from. I did here a few times but does look like no one noticed :)

I have reasons to doubt him, but i won't go into detail here, better you look into his past on your own, i already provided some clues, that's about all i can do

Well, I noticed & I doubt that I'm alone in that, he is a very unusual individual, he doesn't fit into any existing stereotype no matter how hard the MSM tries.

I've seen pictures of Putin dressed in masonic robes & with all sorts of strange people, but it's impossible to know the truth from a picture or from the internet in general.

Not much makes sense anymore, ideas that could be dismissed by being labelled "conspiracy theories" became facts after Brandon ordered the mandatory clot shot to be given to the entire US military, the old ideas of "sides" & patriotism seem like quaint antiquated notions now.

[mizo]

Supposedly a live stream from Kiev broadcast by German broadcaster DW (Deutsche Welle)

I watched a few minutes heard a few sirens in the distance -rooftop flag is flying in the breeze, a few pedestrians and vehicles moving, and birds flying onto the column , the background clouds appear static to my eyes.

Not convinced that it is actually live.


1e0MV6ox-OE

[Vangelo]

Although I am inclined to believe...


The truth about the vaccine bio-weapon is coming out, insurance companies are going bankrupt from the insane rise in unexpected deaths, respected laboratories around the world are confirming the ingredients are designed to kill or enslave.

It is tough for me to take this leap..


The conflict in Ukraine is a smokescreen to distract public's opinion from the REAL stories, the culling and enslavement of the human race.

Because it would mean Putin is a puppet of the Cabal. Of all the countries/world leaders, he is the one who seems the most independent. One of the reasons why I seem him as independent is that he has done many things over the last decade to reduce his dependence upon the US dollar. For instance, Russia has multiple alternatives to SWIFT if need be. Malisa brought this to our attention here...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116682-Will-the-Banksters-Embrace-Extend-and-Extinguish-Cryptocurrencies&p=1467437&viewfull=1#post1467437

[indiana]

Although I am inclined to believe...


The truth about the vaccine bio-weapon is coming out, insurance companies are going bankrupt from the insane rise in unexpected deaths, respected laboratories around the world are confirming the ingredients are designed to kill or enslave.

It is tough for me to take this leap..


The conflict in Ukraine is a smokescreen to distract public's opinion from the REAL stories, the culling and enslavement of the human race.

Because it would mean Putin is a puppet of the Cabal. Of all the countries/world leaders, he is the one who seems the most independent. One of the reasons why I seem him as independent is that he has done many things over the last decade to reduce his dependence upon the US dollar. For instance, Russia has multiple alternatives to SWIFT if need be. Malisa brought this to our attention here...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116682-Will-the-Banksters-Embrace-Extend-and-Extinguish-Cryptocurrencies&p=1467437&viewfull=1#post1467437

I'm totally in two minds about this too. I remember, around November 2021, i was listening to an interview with a Professor of Critical Theory (i can't remember his name but a super smart guy). Anyway, he was saying that the corona virus story was brought into being as a huge crash had happened in the Repo Markets - a crash so big that it would have made the financial crash of 2008 look like a Sunday walk thru the park - if left alone. He went on to say that the wheels were coming off the covid story and that in the next few months (now basically) that a huge event would have to be brought into being to take the eye off the colossal holes in the covid story. So big that it would leave the covid story in the ha'penny place. And here we are and it's all happened so seamlessly. And yet... I'm struggling to now accept that this is what's happening.

[s7e6e]

It's not Putin who's promoting this conflict, it's the elites and their MSM propaganda.

[Vangelo]

Although I am inclined to believe...


The truth about the vaccine bio-weapon is coming out, insurance companies are going bankrupt from the insane rise in unexpected deaths, respected laboratories around the world are confirming the ingredients are designed to kill or enslave.

It is tough for me to take this leap..


The conflict in Ukraine is a smokescreen to distract public's opinion from the REAL stories, the culling and enslavement of the human race.

Because it would mean Putin is a puppet of the Cabal. Of all the countries/world leaders, he is the one who seems the most independent. One of the reasons why I seem him as independent is that he has done many things over the last decade to reduce his dependence upon the US dollar. For instance, Russia has multiple alternatives to SWIFT if need be. Malisa brought this to our attention here...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116682-Will-the-Banksters-Embrace-Extend-and-Extinguish-Cryptocurrencies&p=1467437&viewfull=1#post1467437

I'm totally in two minds about this too. I remember, around November 2021, i was listening to an interview with a Professor of Critical Theory (i can't remember his name but a super smart guy). Anyway, he was saying that the corona virus story was brought into being as a huge crash had happened in the Repo Markets - a crash so big that it would have made the financial crash of 2008 look like a Sunday walk thru the park - if left alone. He went on to say that the wheels were coming off the covid story and that in the next few months (now basically) that a huge event would have to be brought into being to take the eye off the colossal holes in the covid story. So big that it would leave the covid story in the ha'penny place. And here we are and it's all happened so seamlessly. And yet... I'm struggling to now accept that this is what's happening.

Yes, I am of the same belief i.e. ... and that in the next few months (now basically) that a huge event would have to be brought into being to take the eye off the colossal holes in the covid story. So big that it would leave the covid story in the ha'penny place... but I accept that this is the event and it may lead to WWWIII, especially if China takes advantage of the situation.

My problem is I can't figure out why Putin took the mantel to trigger this. Maybe the following is too simplistic and naïve but either he is part of the cabal (which is inconsistent with previous behavior) or he has been 'checkmated' and has to respond in this way. I am hearing and reading evidence to support this, but like everything I read and see today, I am hesitant to accept it as true because of all the fake news and propaganda.

[indiana]

Although I am inclined to believe...


The truth about the vaccine bio-weapon is coming out, insurance companies are going bankrupt from the insane rise in unexpected deaths, respected laboratories around the world are confirming the ingredients are designed to kill or enslave.

It is tough for me to take this leap..


The conflict in Ukraine is a smokescreen to distract public's opinion from the REAL stories, the culling and enslavement of the human race.

Because it would mean Putin is a puppet of the Cabal. Of all the countries/world leaders, he is the one who seems the most independent. One of the reasons why I seem him as independent is that he has done many things over the last decade to reduce his dependence upon the US dollar. For instance, Russia has multiple alternatives to SWIFT if need be. Malisa brought this to our attention here...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116682-Will-the-Banksters-Embrace-Extend-and-Extinguish-Cryptocurrencies&p=1467437&viewfull=1#post1467437

I'm totally in two minds about this too. I remember, around November 2021, i was listening to an interview with a Professor of Critical Theory (i can't remember his name but a super smart guy). Anyway, he was saying that the corona virus story was brought into being as a huge crash had happened in the Repo Markets - a crash so big that it would have made the financial crash of 2008 look like a Sunday walk thru the park - if left alone. He went on to say that the wheels were coming off the covid story and that in the next few months (now basically) that a huge event would have to be brought into being to take the eye off the colossal holes in the covid story. So big that it would leave the covid story in the ha'penny place. And here we are and it's all happened so seamlessly. And yet... I'm struggling to now accept that this is what's happening.

Yes, I am of the same belief i.e. ... and that in the next few months (now basically) that a huge event would have to be brought into being to take the eye off the colossal holes in the covid story. So big that it would leave the covid story in the ha'penny place... but I accept that this is the event and it may lead to WWWIII, especially if China takes advantage of the situation.

My problem is I can't figure out why Putin took the mantel to trigger this. Maybe the following is too simplistic and naïve but either he is part of the cabal (which is inconsistent with previous behavior) or he has been 'checkmated' and has to respond in this way. I am hearing and reading evidence to support this, but like everything I read and see today, I am hesitant to accept it as true because of all the fake news and propaganda.

I'd always thought Putin - despite all his ruthlessness and coldbloodedness - was not a part of the NWO gang. That's where my confusion kicks in too. Yes I've also thought about the checkmated scenario. That said, he has the ability to strike fear into enemies and "friends" alike. There is something of a demon about him. Maybe this is all above what we can see? Pure speculation on my part of course. If the WEF and the NWO agenda is to believed, how desperate would people have to be to surrender all their private property and be willing to accept a One World Governance? Things would have to be bad, in the extreme. Is this just part of the play? Act 2, Scene 1? I don't know. I will be watching it all closely and stocking up again on fuel and food etc.

[ExomatrixTV]

Political scientist: 'I don't see what's belligerent about Russia'

What should you expect from a president who has to rule with a gun at his temple? Political scientist Kees van der Pijl asked this question on Friday in the first edition of blckbx today (https://www.blckbx.tv/livestreams/blckbx-today-2022-02-25) . "I don't see what's belligerent about Russia either."

"It is a country that has never attacked any neighboring country," said Van der Pijl. “When we think of Iraq, Libya, dozens of other countries. Russia (https://www.ninefornews.nl/?zoeken=Rusland) has a very good track record there.”


That's been ridiculed

“One of the things Putin pointed out early on is that we have to make the transition to democracy, but we will make it on our own terms and not on your terms,” he added.
According to Van der Pijl, this war could easily have been prevented. He said that last December Russia offered to have Ukraine make a formal statement that they will not join NATO, because that is a red line that Russia does not want to accept. “And that has been mocked.”


That chance is zero

The political scientist pointed out that the Ukrainian army was completely disabled in the first hours of the Russian operation. “No communication, no flak, no more planes in the sky. Russia's supremacy is far too great. The Ukrainian army, led by corrupt political leaders, cannot stand up to that. That chance is zero," emphasized Van der Pijl.


source article (https://www.ninefornews.nl/politicoloog-ik-zie-niet-wat-er-oorlogszuchtig-is-aan-rusland) (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳



--o-O-o--

me:

What if USA (or Nato) found a way to neutralize all nuclear weapons of any (assumed/perceived) enemy ... if so ... how would Nato behave if they actually have tested that openly for all to see?

How many "UAPs (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115419-UAP-Disclosure-comments-opinions-and-other-material)" are actually Ultra-Secret NATO-Technology being tested?


He who asks the right questions, has a better chance of getting the better answers (most overlook).


Russia does NOT surround USA ... but Nato DOES surround Russia! ... If it was in reverse we all know what happened in Cuba (https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/cuban-missile-crisis)!

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
February 26th, 2022


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source (https://twitter.com/kaki58/status/1482270061159063552/photo/1)

Sarcasm Alert:
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source (https://twitter.com/tarshatha/status/616403015671652352)

[ExomatrixTV]

New World War Maximum Alert! Putin Declares Any Sanctions Are An 'Act Of War':

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[Bill Ryan]

Just a personal note here: :flower:

As some may have seen, I'm now thanking every post, with genuine appreciation. I'm impressed, and very glad to see, so much sharing of information — all with the very best of intentions whatever the news or views may be.

As I posted earlier, we on Avalon can figure this all out together, as we have done with so many other issues.

Do also remember: we're in the fog of war here. That means that there'll be a lot of "noise", and also some emotional noise as well. Some information shared or reported in good faith may simply be incorrect, or only partially correct. If so, we'll simply get to know more pretty soon. Please do be tolerant and understanding of that.

I'm out and away for the rest of the day here (US time), and I'll be back later this evening to catch up on [probably! :P ] another 60 posts. Everything I'm reading, I'm taking in, considering, and learning from. :highfive:

:grouphug:

[pyrangello]

I ditto bills thoughts, this is such an education for myself to read everyone posts. The media here in the states always go by the mantra " if it bleeds , it leads". And there is no discussion what has led up to this point. I refer back to the Cuban missile crisis. Now it's just the opposite. But the media here is silent on any of that. If only Ukraine and the people of Ukraine had been in the stance of they are a neutral country, a buffer of peace. They have so much to offer the world but unfortunately there are those outside of Ukraine that will not let this be so. In a previous post it was stated that troops from Ukraine and Georgia were sent to Afghanistan to assist NATO. I did not know that, it's almost like a slow indoctrination into NATO isn't it. So the Ukrainian people , the good people of the Ukraine are the pawns and the injured the media's poster child's for today's viewing never even addressing the real issues of something that never had to happen in the first place.

[I am B]

More tensions on separate fronts. I know I'm posting a few unrelated things, but imho, it could go very crazy very fast on different places and I'd like to have them into account. (Finland joining NATO, Russia not stoping in Ukraine, Morocco, Taiwan, international cargo vessels...)
We may never know what is gonna happen for certain, but we can take as many of the possibilities into account.

I have the impression there is this buildup of countries trying to get a cool spot on the change of paradigm, and some will try their things while attention is somewhere else, so looking at them is important to see what may happen after this Ukraine event, and if and how it could escalate.

Back to the point of this post:

UPDATE: DENIED, it came from a weird badly written zelenski tweet


Turkey "bans" Russia from the black sea.

I wonder what "banning" means for them, but if they apply it thoroughly, Russia is gonna be MAD.


https://twitter.com/L_Team10/status/1497568796927832069?


UPDATE 2:

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497569348386496513?s


https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1497564078897774598?

Turkey is openly funding Ukraine though.

Ukraine in Turkey (@UKRinTR) twitteó: Ukrayna ve Ukrayna Ordusu için bağış toplamak amacıyla Ukrayna Ankara Büyükelçiliği tarafından özel TL ve USD‼️hesapları açılmıştır‼️. Herhangi bir ülkeden herkes bağış yapabilir!
Ayrıntılar: https://t.co/9TJWn3ixLl https://t.co/F3TyazLlYC https://twitter.com/UKRinTR/status/1497558974048129024?s=20&t=lisz9UT-xISOJA8xe_Mhvg

[justntime2learn]

This thread is being damaged by constant personal attacks, pure garbage, i don't even understand how people who are supposed to 'act' the adult part are so weak they actually act the middle school kid part just because they don't like what i'm posting

Grow up already, you had plenty of time to do that. And stop attacking me because you are weak, look into your mirror

Sorry if i offended weak people but at least you didn't get yourself blown up by a bomb, you still get to express yourselves, unlike other people who have been silenced long ago

So let's rest and watch

I thank all the people who cared to see and learn and watch, everyone is/should be able to make up their own minds in the end

Taking a break from here now, I did not expect so much hate disguised as "opinions", but there it is and this entire issue is bringing up very terrible things i fought very hard to leave behind in the past years. Does look like some people enjoy harming more than learning, as seen here

I can't deal with this non-sense, i have plenty already to deal with. I can't deal with man child attitudes. If their moms could not, much more less would i. And that's the end of it

So hope you get to see more unbiased truth, or in whatever case watch and discern. Because being able to discern leads to the final truth

Bye

As I've mentioned before, I'm a little slow. Did I miss something? When did this become a community of attacks and non support? I've actually cringed at some of the things said lately. I've lost a certain amount of respect for some that I used to respect greatly.

Malisa, I was in the process of PM'ing you, but thought I would write it here. You have a much larger audience than you think that supports you. I have a lot of friends and family that can't wait to recieve a link to your next posts.

To All, I've been teaching many of my friends and family on how to navigate the thread so they can look on their own and possibly become new members. I've explained to all of them what a wonderful place this is to be and how everyone supports each other. Now I find myself explaing why I may have not been entirely correct.

Regards and much love to everyone :heart:

[Spiral]

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan didn't tell Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that Turkey would close the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits to Russian warships, a senior Turkish official told Middle East Eye on Saturday.

"President Erdogan didn't promise to close the straits," the official, who is directly familiar with the call, said. "Turkey hasn't made a decision to close the straits to Russian ships yet."

The statement contradicted an earlier tweet by Zelensky, which was posted following his telephone conversation with Erdogan.


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russia-ukraine-war-turkey-denies-closing-black-sea-russian-warships

[ExomatrixTV]

Three Big Stories Being Ignored From Ukraine & Russia News!

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[Gwin Ru]

...

... sitrep from Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/1/.to4.html):
The French detained a Russian ship that was carrying cars as it passed through the English Channel. The reason was "sanctions enforcement". They are hitting Russia so hard even cars are banned. One interesting thing to note is that all proposed sanctions end before August 1 2022. Why??

Chechnya is deploying (at least) 12,000 troops to Ukraine as an ally of Russia

As of the morning of the 26th the war propaganda is in such full swing that it is difficult to make heads or tails of what is actually going on. The only thing solid is that last night there were negotiations, which ended with Russia resuming the war in full.

The only thing I can see that is a solid development is the west attempting to get weapons in that will allow Ukraine to strike Russia. And the real reason why Russia took Chernobyl was revealed - because Ukraine wanted to use it to make dirty bombs. Or so the rumor goes . . . . Russia wanted that threat eliminated.

So far Russia has managed to not knock out the power and has kept everyday life pretty much normal, but if they encounter too many problems they are going to have to start playing dirty.

There is no one left putting up a resistance to banning Russia from Swift. Putin said a ban would equal nuclear war. Today might be the day they shut it off. I would not put too much creedence in Chinese support, the chinese serve their own interests so much that they could hardly be considered an asset to rely on. Xi will not be thinking "How can I help Russia", he will instead be thinking "What can I get out of this?". Russia will not be in a good position if Swift gets cut.

REMEMBER: The Hunter foot job, the billion plus bribe China gave top U.S. government officials, the whole 9 yards, China is likely to screw Russia over totally.

One thing I have noticed is that cyber attacks are not having a huge effect. Both sides have taken shots at this and only inconvienence ensued, no one is offline and the most substantial thing I heard was that Russia, for a short time knocked Uber Eats offline to "Hit Americans where it really hurts". The cyber attacks thus far have been a joke.

Maybe someone has a trick up their sleeve we have yet to see, but I think it is going to take cutting cables to really do anything.

_____________________

RUSSIA HAS BEEN SEEN MOVING IT'S DRIVEABLE ICBM LAUNCHERS DOWN PUBLIC ROADS.

Cyber attacks have started. American companies having site issues. False flag? Probably.

Power stations around Ukraine are now being either destroyed or taken offline to goad NATO into attacking Russia. FACT: IF IT WAS RUSSIA DOING THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD ALL THE POWER IN UKRAINE KNOCKED OUT IN THE FIRST 40 MINUTES. Russia does not want the Ukranian people to hate them. A good way to accomplish that is to knock out the power. Since the Ukranian leadership and western media has already done lots to try to make the Ukranian people and the West hate Russia, they are the prime suspects and obvious cause of the power outages.

STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH. (https://twitter.com/NATO/status/1497290138296229890)NATO HAS DEPLOYED 3 STRIKE CARRIER GROUPS, IS DEPLOYING MORE SOLDIERS THAN THAT, AND DEMANDING RUSSIA LEAVE UKRAINE IMMEDIATELY.

Shocking remnants of a destroyed tank. (https://twitter.com/Mastersepar/status/1497255829707317253) I don't know what side. I never thought anything could blow a tank to pieces that bad.

The Ukranian forces are taking advantage of the war and are killing drug dealers and other similar types they want gone. That's a new one but apparently Hunter's connections are drying up.

The cost to ship crude anywhere near Russia has increased by at least 7X since Russian actions in Ukraine. That's going to have an enormous impact on prices all by itself even without sanctions.

Merchant ships are being attacked in the Black Sea. Western MSM is blaming Russia, but you know how that goes . . . . . about as accurately as the crushed car claims by the New York ****post.

RUSSIA IS ABOUT TO BE BANNED FROM SWIFT. Putin said he would consider that to be the same as a nuclear strike. In response, Russia increased the amount of cash issued to banks so their ATMs don't go empty even if there is a bank run.

HERE IS A VIDEO OF THE ENTIRE TANK INCIDENT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuuQxZqNjAI) THE NEW YORK ****POST AND THE REST OF THE MSM IS LYING ABOUT. IT WAS A UKRANIAN APC, (NOT EVEN A TANK) THAT WAS PANICKED AFTER A REALLY HOT FIREFIGHT. In this video you can see they did not get out to check on the guy, they drove off.


http://82.221.129.208/1/blatantlie.jpg (https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1497239821487591431)


Overall things seem to be escalating towards world war 3 (probably nuclear in the end) fairly rapidly. They are cornering Russia economically quite well. That will demand a strong response.


AFTER CHINESE BANKS RESTRICTED FUNDING FOR RUSSIAN COMMODITIES, XI STATED THAT HE RESPECTS RUSSIA'S ACTIONS IN UKRAINE. How does that wash???

NATO HAS ACTIVATED IT'S VERY HIGH READINESS JOINT TASK FORCE.

RUMOR: Russia took Ukraine too easily, because the people, including a significant portion of the military, hated their "Israeli Citizen" president and "Western cabal" dark leadership too much to bother with putting up more than just a show fight (enough to prevent being punished if somehow Russia lost.) When the 4 top people in the U.S. government have kids working for Ukraine oil companies, it really says a lot. The Ukranian people HATED being "the hang out".

Russia has conducted an amphibious assault on the Sea of Azov and has landed thousands of troops. Russia appears to be wiping out Ukraine with only 1/3 of committed forces. Forces committed to this battle, not the entire Russian military.

OFFICIAL: The Council of Europe has suspended the Russian Federation from it's rights of representation in the Committee of Ministers and in the Parliamentary Assembly with immediate effect.

TANK RUNS OVER CAR. Arguments as to who's tank UPDATE: Confirmed Ukranian. If you see this, the western media is misrepresenting it. I cannot get it to post. HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED: The tank was being shot at and the driver freaked out. He was trying to avoid being shot. Running over the car was not intentional. FOR PROPAGANDA PURPOSES, THE VIDEO WAS CUT BUT THE TANK WAS LEAKING OIL AFTER BEING HIT AND THE PEOPLE GOT OUT OF THE TANK AND EXTRACTED THE DRIVER FROM THE CAR. THE DRIVER LIVED. You will not see that part of that story because it shows the real context and propaganda is propaganda.

Turkish president Erdogan who wisely ****canned Adnan Oktar (https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/02/17/adnan-oktar-turkish-jeffrey-epstein/)is saying Nato is not making good decisions in it's handling of Russia. I KNOW WHY. I have the WHOLE STORY ON THAT. (http://198.46.190.126/videos/mushroomcloud.mp4) Most likely this is Russia setting off two nukes in Siberia as a warning shot less than a week before taking Ukraine. At first I thought it was probably Israel nuking Syria, but Russia's actions in Ukraine explain this a whole lot better.

RUMOR: Russia threatened Sweden and Finland with military consequences if they support Nato in an attack on Russia

HOW STUPID: The CIA (probably) is attempting to say Putin is using ISIS to attack Ukraine. You can't make this stuff up, looks like someone in American intelligence has jumped the shark!!! (https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1497198251031732229)

BLOCKBUSTER: CHINA IS NOT SUPPORTING RUSSIA. CHINA STATE BANKS ARE RESTRICTING FUNDING FOR RUSSIAN COMMODITIES. (https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1497220989645643779) It looks like Biden's Beijing crack pipe is paying off!!! A deal is a deal and a footjob is a footjob don't ya know!!!

Dead people and no blood? People are saying some of the footage has to be fake because of a lack of blood. However, when someone dies from a blast, there is no blood unless there was shrapnel and there is not always. Also, what about directed energy weapons? Same deal. Russia is probably using them.

Twitter and other social media have cracked down on reporting from Ukraine. They want the official narrative. We'll see how decent I can keep this despite that.

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[ExomatrixTV]

The Pentagon doesn't want you to see these Documents about Biolabs in Ukraine

The US embassy in Ukraine on Saturday removed all documents about Pentagon-funded biolabs in Ukraine from its website. Investigative journalist Dilyana Gaytanzhieva writes this on social media . (https://twitter.com/dgaytandzhieva/status/1497556518278991873?s=20&t=H030rEi55VDyay3lH99xPw)

Embassy officials forgot to remove a document showing that the Pentagon (https://www.ninefornews.nl/?zoeken=Pentagon) is funding two new biolabs in Kiev and Odessa.

Ukraine has no control over the military biolabs. The Ukrainian government is not allowed to disclose sensitive information about the program. In addition, the Pentagon has been given access to Ukrainian state secrets.


Under suspicious circumstances

One of the labs is located in Kharkov, Ukraine's second largest city. In January 2016, at least 20 Ukrainian soldiers died there from a flu-like virus in two days. Another 200 soldiers were hospitalized. The Ukrainian government made no mention of the dead soldiers.

Hepatitis A broke out in 2018 under suspicious circumstances in southeastern Ukraine, where there are also a number of biolabs. In January 2018, 37 people with hepatitis A were hospitalized in the city of Mykolaiv. The police launched an investigation. In the same city, more than 100 people became infected with cholera in 2015.

https://www.ninefornews.nl/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/51.jpg


Weapons of Mass Destruction

In the summer of 2017, 60 people with hepatitis A were hospitalized in the city of Zaporizhzhya. In June 2017, 19 children from an orphanage were hospitalized due to hepatitis A. In November that year, cases of hepatitis A were also reported in Kharkov.

The United States and Ukraine jointly established the Science and Technology Center in Ukraine (STCU). Over the past 20 years, the STCU has invested more than $285 million in some 1,850 projects conducted by scientists previously working on the development of weapons of mass destruction, the investigative journalist found.

The documents are also available here (http://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/) on its website.

Article (https://www.ninefornews.nl/het-pentagon-wil-niet-dat-je-deze-documenten-over-biolabs-in-oekraine-ziet/#) (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

The US Army regularly produces deadly viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN Convention on the prohibition of Biological Weapons. Hundreds of thousands of unwitting people are systematically exposed to dangerous pathogens and other incurable diseases. Bio warfare scientists using diplomatic cover test man-made viruses at Pentagon bio laboratories in 25 countries across the world. These US bio-laboratories are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under a $ 2.1 billion military program (https://fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/R43143.pdf)– Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), and are located in former Soviet Union countries such as Georgia and Ukraine, the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa.

http://dilyana.bg/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1.png (http://dilyana.bg/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1.png)


source (http://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/)

[ExomatrixTV]

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source (https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1494981580468621313)

[ExomatrixTV]

Tucker: Biden broke the oldest rule of all:

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[Vicus]

Question to MODS !

Yesterday I post a flyer/photo collage (not a real photo), today it is vanished from post...
explain me that ... :sherlock:
from this post:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1485171&viewfull=1#post1485171





Mod note from Bill:
It's still right there. You may have a problem with your browser.
:thumbsup:

[XelNaga]

Hi Friends,

I'm not sure if this information was posted already, or even how relevant it is but, intelligence agencies of Serbia are saying that members of muslim terrorist organisations from Albania and Bosnia are fighting in this war as mercenaries for Ukraine.

I have no reason to doubt this information, as our intelligence agencies are really good at their job, and have no habit of releasing unverified infos.

[samildamach]

Although I am inclined to believe...


The truth about the vaccine bio-weapon is coming out, insurance companies are going bankrupt from the insane rise in unexpected deaths, respected laboratories around the world are confirming the ingredients are designed to kill or enslave.

It is tough for me to take this leap..


The conflict in Ukraine is a smokescreen to distract public's opinion from the REAL stories, the culling and enslavement of the human race.

Because it would mean Putin is a puppet of the Cabal. Of all the countries/world leaders, he is the one who seems the most independent. One of the reasons why I seem him as independent is that he has done many things over the last decade to reduce his dependence upon the US dollar. For instance, Russia has multiple alternatives to SWIFT if need be. Malisa brought this to our attention here...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?116682-Will-the-Banksters-Embrace-Extend-and-Extinguish-Cryptocurrencies&p=1467437&viewfull=1#post1467437

I'm totally in two minds about this too. I remember, around November 2021, i was listening to an interview with a Professor of Critical Theory (i can't remember his name but a super smart guy). Anyway, he was saying that the corona virus story was brought into being as a huge crash had happened in the Repo Markets - a crash so big that it would have made the financial crash of 2008 look like a Sunday walk thru the park - if left alone. He went on to say that the wheels were coming off the covid story and that in the next few months (now basically) that a huge event would have to be brought into being to take the eye off the colossal holes in the covid story. So big that it would leave the covid story in the ha'penny place. And here we are and it's all happened so seamlessly. And yet... I'm struggling to now accept that this is what's happening.

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-explores-setting-up-rupee-trade-accounts-with-russia-soften-sanctions-blow-2022-02-25/
India is Working with russia to circumvent swift many countries relie on russian trade and need it to continue.
And don't forget brics Brazil russia India china and south Africa.
These countries all came together to provide a stable alternative to the Petro dollar,and Now with sanctions get the perfect reason to ditch it all together.
The consequences could well collapse the western economies heralding in the new digital currency once the dust settles .
I know iam over simplifying the complexities but think it was some legs.
when you look at how long we have been kicking the can down the road since the 2008 bailout massive debt and printing money with impunity, they always intended to collapse it all.the question is ,is Putin the patsy?

[Vicus]

Germany showing his " true" colors...


Germany makes U-turn on sending weapons to Ukraine

Berlin has decided to supply Kiev with anti-tank missiles and ‘Stinger’ air defense systems, a government official confirmed

Germany has decided to supply Kiev with 1,000 anti-tank weapon systems as well as 500 ‘Stinger’ surface-to-air missiles from the German Army stocks, a government spokesman, Steffen Hebestreit, announced on Saturday. The weapons are to be delivered to Ukraine “as soon as possible,” he added.

Chancellor Olaf Scholz has commented on the decision by calling the ongoing Russian military operation in Ukraine a “turning point” that “threatens the entire post-war order.” It is Berlin's “duty” to support Ukraine in defense against what he called “Vladimir Putin's invading army.”

Earlier on Saturday, several German media outlets reported that Berlin had changed its position on supplying Ukraine with lethal weapons upon urgent requests from Kiev and its NATO partners.


https://www.rt.com/russia/550723-germany-send-weapons-ukraine-operation/

[aoibhghaire]

There has been a trend by Russian military since 2015 a policy of exploring the possible severing of communications systems by either massive cyber attack or even a dramatic severing of communications between the USA and Europe via transatlantic cables. There is evidence to show that this may be an option by the Russians to make a surprise invisible attack on the western flank. We know there has been a culmination of tensions resulting in the ‘The Ukraine’ invasion. However, depending how things unravel tele communications could be an option to execute as part of the near future war theater.

I have suspected this possibility and therefore I have carried out some interesting research to show evidence this may be a possibility.

Ireland Suspects Russia Is Trying To Crack Transatlantic Fiber-Optic Ocean Bed Cables –
The Times Sunday February 16 2020, 12.01am, The Sunday Times
https://www.communicationstoday.co.in/ireland-suspects-russia-is-trying-to-crack-transatlantic-fiber-optic-ocean-bed-cables/

Russia has sent intelligence agents to Ireland to map the precise location of the fibre-optic, ocean-bed cables that connect Europe to America, gardai (Police) suspect. This has raised concerns that Russian agents are checking the cables for weak points, with a view to tapping or even damaging them in the future.
Ireland is the landing point for undersea cables which carry internet traffic between America, Britain and Europe. The cables enable millions of people to communicate and allow financial transactions to take place seamlessly.

Garda (Police) and military sources believe the agents were sent by the GRU, the military intelligence branch of the Russian armed forces.
Irish security officials suspect that Russian intelligence agents are trying to map the location of the fibre-optic, ocean-bed cables in Ireland.

Russian agents are checking the cables for weak points, that can be used for diversions.
The Irish intelligence services suggest that Russia is using Ireland as its regional base by avoiding the Irish counter-intelligence agencies.
Russia’s interest in transatlantic cables was first reported in 2015.

See transatlantic cable location maps

https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
http://www.fiberatlantic.com/submarinecablemap/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10980886/russian-spies-in-ireland-undersea-cables/

Experts have warned the country could be the "new battle space of the future" because it's a global internet hub and a base for many worldwide tech firms.
Ireland is a prime location for these undersea cables because of its proximity to both America and Europe.

Dublin is one of Europe's largest tech hubs with authorities suspecting the agents could also be spying on large tech firms.
Google, Airbnb, Facebook, and Twitter all have bases in the city.

Mark Galeotti, an expert on transnational crime and Russian security, said: "Ireland doesn't have a counter-intelligence capability.
"It's a relatively soft target. Ireland is a major node for the global internet.
"It has a large concentration of tech companies. This is the new battle space of the future."

The presence of Russian agents on their shores has also sparked fears of information warfare. John Sipher, a retired CIA officer in Moscow, said there is a high chance the agents are either spying or planning to cut communications. He said: "They also may wish to show their capability in order to threaten the West. "Our FBI has caught Russians trying to gain access to underwater cables, including the areas where they come into land."
"They are also seeking to gain physical access to routers and communication nodes."

https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2022/02/22/russia-ireland-navy-242435

Now we have the most recent Russian actions 22 February 2022

After Russian ships menaced off its shores, Ireland wonders if it should beef up its military spending.
It was rare to have Russian ships at the intersection location for the transatlantic cables. Russian military ships with on board subs have the capability of severing the cables.

The Russian ships have moved on, but important questions for Ireland followed in their wake. While no one knows for sure whether it was coincidental that Russia planned exercises off Europe’s west coast while its troops amassed on its eastern borders, political observers agreed that Ireland represented a weak link in European defense.

There was some concern that the operation could be cover for an attack on transatlantic fiber-optic oceanic cables that serve as essential infrastructure for communications between North America and Europe.

Late 2021 U.S. sensors detect Russian submarines near underwater cables
https://njfx.net/industry-news/u-s-sensors-detect-russian-submarines-near-underwater-cables/
Washington (CNN) – When a Russian military ship called the Yantar suddenly crossed the Atlantic and started moving down the East Coast of the United States last month, it set off alarm bells inside the world of U.S. naval intelligence.
U.S. spy satellites, aircraft and submarines tracked the ship all the way down the coast to Cuba, according to two U.S. defense officials.
However, again, Russian subs were detected near cables.

It had been years since the U.S. had seen this type of activity by the Russians, officials said. While the Russians have insisted the Yantar is not a spy ship, U.S. naval intelligence believes it has one significant and unsettling capability: small underwater vehicles that can cut vital undersea cables carrying vast amounts of commercial and military data, voice communications and Internet service between the U.S. and Europe.
Some of these details were first reported by the New York Times.

U.S. officials told CNN there was no indication that the Russians have any intention of cutting the cables, but they said that they are showing off their capability to U.S. naval intelligence by their actions.

In another recent incidence around Iceland. Ships circumvented Iceland
https://ancientcodex.com/russia-gives-no-explanation-of-navy-ships-off-icelands-coast/
https://www.ruv.is/kveikur/its-getting-cold-again/


Iceland Review October 20, 2021
There is no indication that tensions around Iceland are easing. On the contrary, it seems militarization is the order of the day.

[Natasha]

Big Picture about Russia and Ukraine
I want to share personal views because MSM is absolute BS, we all know that and especially in this conflict if you follow any 'official' news you are misled and know nothing what is happening. I am following RT in English, if you clean a bit Russian biases in their news it is not comparable (meaning much better) than any western media controlled by 6 families including my local MSM that are controlled by the same powers in Serbia. The other source that I follow and I cannot recommend because it is in Serbian language. Namely, local journalist went 10 days ago to report from DNR and LNR and he is posting different interviews and just ordinary life scenes from these two war torn regions in Ukraine. That is the most helpful for me to understand what is really going on.
Remote viewers/channelers/intuitives that I follow for some time have interesting comments about Russia/Ukraine situation and provide bigger and more complex idea what is really happening:
Dick Allgire and Edward Riordan shared their remote viewing session about 2/22/2022 and shared quite interesting points and intel about Russia/USA/WWII etc. Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-tqmOSue4
Penny Kelly shared that her intuition says Ukraine is just start up, Russia will go after NATO and it's headquarters in Israel :-) she knows it is not there and her vision led her to connect NATO and Israel as next targets. Here is link for that interview:
https://rumble.com/vvn183-livestream-a-break-in-the-clouds-with-penny-kelly-and-jean-claudebeyondmyst.html
Janine who is tarot reader in Canada spoke with Jean Claude about war in Ukraine and they draw very interesting links, with Kazakhstan conflicts, much bigger **** that Russia is cleaning in Ukraine and not talking about it, etc.
Here is that link:
https://rumble.com/vvt54r-livestream-war-in-ukraine-special-report-by-janine-and-jeanclaudebeyondmyst.html

Hope you will find these inputs interesting.
Natasha

[jaybee]

Putin's speech .....

https://www.infowars.com/posts/putin-speech-russia-had-no-other-option-but-to-launch-ukraine-invasion-because-west-deceived-us-about-nato-expansion/

“Any further expansion of the North Atlantic alliance’s infrastructure or the ongoing efforts to gain a military foothold of the Ukrainian territory are unacceptable for us,” he says, adding “those who aspire to global dominance have publicly designated Russia as their enemy.”

Russian president even explains how US government’s illegal military invasions of Iraq, Libya, and Syria over the years culminated into instability in Europe and are directly related to current breakdown of international law and diplomacy.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin delivered a lengthy speech on Thursday explaining his justification for invading Ukraine, claiming Russia was left with “no other option” to ensure its national security after decades of deception by the “US instrument” known as NATO.

Regardless of one’s sentiments about Putin or his actions, this is history being made in real time.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Full transcript:

Respected citizens of Russia! Dear friends!

Today, I consider it necessary today to speak again about the tragic events in Donbas and the key aspects of ensuring the security of Russia.

I will begin with what I said in my address on February 21, 2022. I spoke about our biggest concerns and worries, and about the fundamental threats which irresponsible Western politicians created for Russia consistently, rudely and unceremoniously from year to year. I am referring to the eastward expansion of NATO, which is moving its military infrastructure ever closer to the Russian border.

It is a fact that over the past 30 years we have been patiently trying to come to an agreement with the leading NATO countries regarding the principles of equal and indivisible security in Europe. In response to our proposals, we invariably faced either cynical deception and lies or attempts at pressure and blackmail, while the North Atlantic alliance continued to expand despite our protests and concerns. Its military machine is moving and, as I said, is approaching our very border.

Why is this happening? Where did this insolent manner of talking down from the height of their exceptionalism, infallibility and all-permissiveness come from? What is the explanation for this contemptuous and disdainful attitude to our interests and absolutely legitimate demands?

The answer is simple. Everything is clear and obvious. In the late 1980s, the Soviet Union grew weaker and subsequently broke apart. That experience should serve as a good lesson for us, because it has shown us that the paralysis of power and will is the first step towards complete degradation and oblivion. We lost confidence for only one moment, but it was enough to disrupt the balance of forces in the world.

As a result, the old treaties and agreements are no longer effective. Entreaties and requests do not help. Anything that does not suit the dominant state, the powers that be, is denounced as archaic, obsolete and useless. At the same time, everything it regards as useful is presented as the ultimate truth and forced on others regardless of the cost, abusively and by any means available. Those who refuse to comply are subjected to strong-arm tactics.

What I am saying now does not concerns only Russia, and Russia is not the only country that is worried about this. This has to do with the entire system of international relations, and sometimes even US allies. The collapse of the Soviet Union led to a redivision of the world, and the norms of international law that developed by that time – and the most important of them, the fundamental norms that were adopted following WWII and largely formalised its outcome – came in the way of those who declared themselves the winners of the Cold War.

Of course, practice, international relations and the rules regulating them had to take into account the changes that took place in the world and in the balance of forces. However, this should have been done professionally, smoothly, patiently, and with due regard and respect for the interests of all states and one’s own responsibility. Instead, we saw a state of euphoria created by the feeling of absolute superiority, a kind of modern absolutism, coupled with the low cultural standards and arrogance of those who formulated and pushed through decisions that suited only themselves. The situation took a different turn.

There are many examples of this. First a bloody military operation was waged against Belgrade, without the UN Security Council’s sanction but with combat aircraft and missiles used in the heart of Europe. The bombing of peaceful cities and vital infrastructure went on for several weeks. I have to recall these facts, because some Western colleagues prefer to forget them, and when we mentioned the event, they prefer to avoid speaking about international law, instead emphasising the circumstances which they interpret as they think necessary.

Then came the turn of Iraq, Libya and Syria. The illegal use of military power against Libya and the distortion of all the UN Security Council decisions on Libya ruined the state, created a huge seat of international terrorism, and pushed the country towards a humanitarian catastrophe, into the vortex of a civil war, which has continued there for years. The tragedy, which was created for hundreds of thousands and even millions of people not only in Libya but in the whole region, has led to a large-scale exodus from the Middle East and North Africa to Europe.

A similar fate was also prepared for Syria. The combat operations conducted by the Western coalition in that country without the Syrian government’s approval or UN Security Council’s sanction can only be defined as aggression and intervention.

But the example that stands apart from the above events is, of course, the invasion of Iraq without any legal grounds. They used the pretext of allegedly reliable information available in the United States about the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. To prove that allegation, the US Secretary of State held up a vial with white power, publicly, for the whole world to see, assuring the international community that it was a chemical warfare agent created in Iraq. It later turned out that all of that was a fake and a sham, and that Iraq did not have any chemical weapons. Incredible and shocking but true. We witnessed lies made at the highest state level and voiced from the high UN rostrum. As a result we see a tremendous loss in human life, damage, destruction, and a colossal upsurge of terrorism.

Overall, it appears that nearly everywhere, in many regions of the world where the United States brought its law and order, this created bloody, non-healing wounds and the curse of international terrorism and extremism. I have only mentioned the most glaring but far from only examples of disregard for international law.

This array includes promises not to expand NATO eastwards even by an inch. To reiterate: they have deceived us, or, to put it simply, they have played us. Sure, one often hears that politics is a dirty business. It could be, but it shouldn’t be as dirty as it is now, not to such an extent. This type of con-artist behaviour is contrary not only to the principles of international relations but also and above all to the generally accepted norms of morality and ethics. Where is justice and truth here? Just lies and hypocrisy all around.

Incidentally, US politicians, political scientists and journalists write and say that a veritable “empire of lies” has been created inside the United States in recent years. It is hard to disagree with this – it is really so. But one should not be modest about it: the United States is still a great country and a system-forming power. All its satellites not only humbly and obediently say yes to and parrot it at the slightest pretext but also imitate its behaviour and enthusiastically accept the rules it is offering them. Therefore, one can say with good reason and confidence that the whole so-called Western bloc formed by the United States in its own image and likeness is, in its entirety, the very same “empire of lies.”

As for our country, after the disintegration of the USSR, given the entire unprecedented openness of the new, modern Russia, its readiness to work honestly with the United States and other Western partners, and its practically unilateral disarmament, they immediately tried to put the final squeeze on us, finish us off, and utterly destroy us. This is how it was in the 1990s and the early 2000s, when the so-called collective West was actively supporting separatism and gangs of mercenaries in southern Russia. What victims, what losses we had to sustain and what trials we had to go through at that time before we broke the back of international terrorism in the Caucasus! We remember this and will never forget.

Properly speaking, the attempts to use us in their own interests never ceased until quite recently: they sought to destroy our traditional values and force on us their false values that would erode us, our people from within, the attitudes they have been aggressively imposing on their countries, attitudes that are directly leading to degradation and degeneration, because they are contrary to human nature. This is not going to happen. No one has ever succeeded in doing this, nor will they succeed now.

Despite all that, in December 2021, we made yet another attempt to reach agreement with the United States and its allies on the principles of European security and NATO’s non-expansion. Our efforts were in vain. The United States has not changed its position. It does not believe it necessary to agree with Russia on a matter that is critical for us. The United States is pursuing its own objectives, while neglecting our interests.

Of course, this situation begs a question: what next, what are we to expect? If history is any guide, we know that in 1940 and early 1941 the Soviet Union went to great lengths to prevent war or at least delay its outbreak. To this end, the USSR sought not to provoke the potential aggressor until the very end by refraining or postponing the most urgent and obvious preparations it had to make to defend itself from an imminent attack. When it finally acted, it was too late.

As a result, the country was not prepared to counter the invasion by Nazi Germany, which attacked our Motherland on June 22, 1941, without declaring war. The country stopped the enemy and went on to defeat it, but this came at a tremendous cost. The attempt to appease the aggressor ahead of the Great Patriotic War proved to be a mistake which came at a high cost for our people. In the first months after the hostilities broke out, we lost vast territories of strategic importance, as well as millions of lives. We will not make this mistake the second time. We have no right to do so.

Those who aspire to global dominance have publicly designated Russia as their enemy. They did so with impunity. Make no mistake, they had no reason to act this way. It is true that they have considerable financial, scientific, technological, and military capabilities. We are aware of this and have an objective view of the economic threats we have been hearing, just as our ability to counter this brash and never-ending blackmail. Let me reiterate that we have no illusions in this regard and are extremely realistic in our assessments.

As for military affairs, even after the dissolution of the USSR and losing a considerable part of its capabilities, today’s Russia remains one of the most powerful nuclear states. Moreover, it has a certain advantage in several cutting-edge weapons. In this context, there should be no doubt for anyone that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.

At the same time, technology, including in the defence sector, is changing rapidly. One day there is one leader, and tomorrow another, but a military presence in territories bordering on Russia, if we permit it to go ahead, will stay for decades to come or maybe forever, creating an ever mounting and totally unacceptable threat for Russia.

Even now, with NATO’s eastward expansion the situation for Russia has been becoming worse and more dangerous by the year. Moreover, these past days NATO leadership has been blunt in its statements that they need to accelerate and step up efforts to bring the alliance’s infrastructure closer to Russia’s borders. In other words, they have been toughening their position. We cannot stay idle and passively observe these developments. This would be an absolutely irresponsible thing to do for us.

Any further expansion of the North Atlantic alliance’s infrastructure or the ongoing efforts to gain a military foothold of the Ukrainian territory are unacceptable for us. Of course, the question is not about NATO itself. It merely serves as a tool of US foreign policy. The problem is that in territories adjacent to Russia, which I have to note is our historical land, a hostile “anti-Russia” is taking shape. Fully controlled from the outside, it is doing everything to attract NATO armed forces and obtain cutting-edge weapons.

For the United States and its allies, it is a policy of containing Russia, with obvious geopolitical dividends. For our country, it is a matter of life and death, a matter of our historical future as a nation. This is not an exaggeration; this is a fact. It is not only a very real threat to our interests but to the very existence of our state and to its sovereignty. It is the red line which we have spoken about on numerous occasions. They have crossed it.

This brings me to the situation in Donbas. We can see that the forces that staged the coup in Ukraine in 2014 have seized power, are keeping it with the help of ornamental election procedures and have abandoned the path of a peaceful conflict settlement. For eight years, for eight endless years we have been doing everything possible to settle the situation by peaceful political means. Everything was in vain.

As I said in my previous address, you cannot look without compassion at what is happening there. It became impossible to tolerate it. We had to stop that atrocity, that genocide of the millions of people who live there and who pinned their hopes on Russia, on all of us. It is their aspirations, the feelings and pain of these people that were the main motivating force behind our decision to recognize the independence of the Donbas people’s republics.

I would like to additionally emphasize the following. Focused on their own goals, the leading NATO countries are supporting the far-right nationalists and neo-Nazis in Ukraine, those who will never forgive the people of Crimea and Sevastopol for freely making a choice to reunite with Russia.

They will undoubtedly try to bring war to Crimea just as they have done in Donbas, to kill innocent people just as members of the punitive units of Ukrainian nationalists and Hitler’s accomplices did during the Great Patriotic War. They have also openly laid claim to several other Russian regions.

If we look at the sequence of events and the incoming reports, the showdown between Russia and these forces cannot be avoided. It is only a matter of time. They are getting ready and waiting for the right moment. Moreover, they went as far as aspire to acquire nuclear weapons. We will not let this happen.

I have already said that Russia accepted the new geopolitical reality after the dissolution of the USSR. We have been treating all new post-Soviet states with respect and will continue to act this way. We respect and will respect their sovereignty, as proven by the assistance we provided to Kazakhstan when it faced tragic events and a challenge in terms of its statehood and integrity. However, Russia cannot feel safe, develop, and exist while facing a permanent threat from the territory of today’s Ukraine.

Let me remind you that in 2000–2005 we used our military to push back against terrorists in the Caucasus and stood up for the integrity of our state. We preserved Russia. In 2014, we supported the people of Crimea and Sevastopol. In 2015, we used our Armed Forces to create a reliable shield that prevented terrorists from Syria from penetrating Russia. This was a matter of defending ourselves. We had no other choice.

The same is happening today. They did not leave us any other option for defending Russia and our people, other than the one we are forced to use today. In these circumstances, we have to take bold and immediate action. The people’s republics of Donbas have asked Russia for help.

In this context, in accordance with Article 51 (Chapter VII) of the UN Charter, with permission of Russia’s Federation Council, and in execution of the treaties of friendship and mutual assistance with the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Lugansk People’s Republic, ratified by the Federal Assembly on February 22, I made a decision to carry out a special military operation.

The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kiev regime. To this end, we will seek to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, as well as bring to trial those who perpetrated numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including against citizens of the Russian Federation.

It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory. We do not intend to impose anything on anyone by force. At the same time, we have been hearing an increasing number of statements coming from the West that there is no need any more to abide by the documents setting forth the outcomes of World War II, as signed by the totalitarian Soviet regime. How can we respond to that?

The outcomes of World War II and the sacrifices our people had to make to defeat Nazism are sacred. This does not contradict the high values of human rights and freedoms in the reality that emerged over the post-war decades. This does not mean that nations cannot enjoy the right to self-determination, which is enshrined in Article 1 of the UN Charter.

Let me remind you that the people living in territories which are part of today’s Ukraine were not asked how they want to build their lives when the USSR was created or after World War II. Freedom guides our policy, the freedom to choose independently our future and the future of our children. We believe that all the peoples living in today’s Ukraine, anyone who want to do this, must be able to enjoy this right to make a free choice.

In this context I would like to address the citizens of Ukraine. In 2014, Russia was obliged to protect the people of Crimea and Sevastopol from those who you yourself call “nats.” The people of Crimea and Sevastopol made their choice in favour of being with their historical homeland, Russia, and we supported their choice. As I said, we could not act otherwise.

The current events have nothing to do with a desire to infringe on the interests of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. They are connected with the defending Russia from those who have taken Ukraine hostage and are trying to use it against our country and our people.

I reiterate: we are acting to defend ourselves from the threats created for us and from a worse peril than what is happening now. I am asking you, however hard this may be, to understand this and to work together with us so as to turn this tragic page as soon as possible and to move forward together, without allowing anyone to interfere in our affairs and our relations but developing them independently, so as to create favourable conditions for overcoming all these problems and to strengthen us from within as a single whole, despite the existence of state borders. I believe in this, in our common future.

I would also like to address the military personnel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Comrade officers,

Your fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers did not fight the Nazi occupiers and did not defend our common Motherland to allow today’s neo-Nazis to seize power in Ukraine. You swore the oath of allegiance to the Ukrainian people and not to the junta, the people’s adversary which is plundering Ukraine and humiliating the Ukrainian people.

I urge you to refuse to carry out their criminal orders. I urge you to immediately lay down arms and go home. I will explain what this means: the military personnel of the Ukrainian army who do this will be able to freely leave the zone of hostilities and return to their families.

I want to emphasize again that all responsibility for the possible bloodshed will lie fully and wholly with the ruling Ukrainian regime.

I would now like to say something very important for those who may be tempted to interfere in these developments from the outside. No matter who tries to stand in our way or all the more so create threats for our country and our people, they must know that Russia will respond immediately, and the consequences will be such as you have never seen in your entire history. No matter how the events unfold, we are ready. All the necessary decisions in this regard have been taken. I hope that my words will be heard.

Citizens of Russia,

The culture and values, experience and traditions of our ancestors invariably provided a powerful underpinning for the wellbeing and the very existence of entire states and nations, their success and viability. Of course, this directly depends on the ability to quickly adapt to constant change, maintain social cohesion, and readiness to consolidate and summon all the available forces in order to move forward.

We always need to be strong, but this strength can take on different forms. The “empire of lies,” which I mentioned in the beginning of my speech, proceeds in its policy primarily from rough, direct force. This is when our saying on being “all brawn and no brains” applies.

We all know that having justice and truth on our side is what makes us truly strong. If this is the case, it would be hard to disagree with the fact that it is our strength and our readiness to fight that are the bedrock of independence and sovereignty and provide the necessary foundation for building a reliable future for your home, your family, and your Motherland.

Dear compatriots,

I am certain that devoted soldiers and officers of Russia’s Armed Forces will perform their duty with professionalism and courage. I have no doubt that the government institutions at all levels and specialists will work effectively to guarantee the stability of our economy, financial system and social wellbeing, and the same applies to corporate executives and the entire business community. I hope that all parliamentary parties and civil society take a consolidated, patriotic position.

At the end of the day, the future of Russia is in the hands of its multi-ethnic people, as has always been the case in our history. This means that the decisions that I made will be executed, that we will achieve the goals we have set, and reliably guarantee the security of our Motherland.

I believe in your support and the invincible force rooted in the love for our Fatherland.

[kfm27917]

https://thesaker.is/day-3-of-the-russian-operation-in-the-ukraine-open-thread/

[jaybee]

Hi Friends,

I'm not sure if this information was posted already, or even how relevant it is but, intelligence agencies of Serbia are saying that members of muslim terrorist organisations from Albania and Bosnia are fighting in this war as mercenaries for Ukraine.

I have no reason to doubt this information, as our intelligence agencies are really good at their job, and have no habit of releasing unverified infos.


That would make sense.... because this whole situation has been engineered by the Globalists who want a one world dictatorship style government - and part of that appears to be giving muslims an Islamic State, or at least it was - and that's why Globalist forces like the Obama Administration was covertly arming and training ISIS and why muslims were flocking to Syria to fight because they knew what was promised.... but Russia stepped in and put a stop to that - so I can see why they would now go and fight for the Globalist neo Nazis in Ukraine because if the Globalists win they could get their Islamic State - as an initial step before 'they' try and bring in a One World Religion but that would be a manipulation and social engineering for the future - (if they get their way)

[Michel Leclerc]

(...)
About me: I can believe that Ukraine is a cesspool. I also don’t trust Russian leadership, nor any world leadership actually. Your news of 13k dead in E Ukraine, with western talkers & media silent, does not surprise me. However, I hold anyone, including you, in suspicion. Nothing personal.

Dear Johnnycomelatetothecesspool,

Have you considered a slight variation of your penultimate sentence, which I would recommend:

“However, I hold anyone, including myself, in suspicion.”

?

My own ethical principle is: “I hold everyone, myself in the first place, in suspicion of callousness because of man’s limited capacity for empathy, and ignorance because of man’s limited knowledge of facts and intellectual capabilities.”

Just a portion of realism, or wisdom, acquired by living in a cesspool.

[jaybee]

.

I just want to pull this out of Putin's speech that I posted from the InfoWars site in a previous post ... because the stakes now could not be higher... and Western Leaders + organizations (complete with all the WEF etc 'penetrations' - ) could get us all killed in a war that escalates out of control...


I would now like to say something very important for those who may be tempted to interfere in these developments from the outside. No matter who tries to stand in our way or all the more so create threats for our country and our people, they must know that Russia will respond immediately, and the consequences will be such as you have never seen in your entire history. No matter how the events unfold, we are ready. All the necessary decisions in this regard have been taken. I hope that my words will be heard.

[Gwin Ru]

...

... more from Jim Stone:

SWIFT BAN TO COMMENCE AT 1 AM Eastern time if Russia does get banned. (http://82.221.129.208/1/.to4.html)

More war updates

The propaganda is in overdrive. I am trying to filter the BS. As usual I will correct any errors that are made. Credit cards that draw from Russian banks have been reported to have stopped working abroad, but they still work in Russia.

TWO DAYS AGO I REPORTED THAT UKRAINE BLEW A DAM IN A FALSE FLAG BLAMING RUSSIA.
&NBSP;
I WAS WRONG. RUSSIA BLEW THE DAM BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT FOR THE EXPLICIT PURPOSE OF CUTTING WATER OFF TO CRIMEA, WHICH DESTROYED THEIR AGRICULTURE AND LIMITED WATER USAGE IN RESIDENCES TO 4 HOURS PER DAY. So blowing the dam was GOOD NEWS and Russia took full credit for it.

There is a rumor that a Russian army major has been captured in an ambush, but the rumor might be morale boosting crap for Ukraine.

Two different journalists in different cities - a French journalist in Donetsk and a rumored second I have not been able to track down yet have witnessed Ukrainians shelling their own people (what's new? That's a big reason why Putin went in) - - - NEW is that now they are blaming Russia because Russia is there to blame.

REPEAT: This story is obviously true and is probably happening "everywhere" because Ukraine has been shelling it's own people for most of 10 years now. That's so "not new" that trolls claiming the reporters are lying look stupid.

Ukrainian soldiers are blocking roads and preventing people from leaving some of the cities now. "Human shields??? or draft fodder?

[Johnnycomelately]

I

(...)
About me: I can believe that Ukraine is a cesspool. I also don’t trust Russian leadership, nor any world leadership actually. Your news of 13k dead in E Ukraine, with western talkers & media silent, does not surprise me. However, I hold anyone, including you, in suspicion. Nothing personal.

Dear Johnnycomelatetothecesspool,

Have you considered a slight variation of your penultimate sentence, which I would recommend:

“However, I hold anyone, including myself, in suspicion.”

?

My own ethical principle is: “I hold everyone, myself in the first place, in suspicion of callousness because of man’s limited capacity for empathy, and ignorance because of man’s limited knowledge of facts and intellectual capabilities.”

Just a portion of realism, of wisdom, acquired by living in a cesspool.

I think your idea is sound, but no, no change necessary to what I said.

I do count callousness and ignorance among my known faults, all of which I strive to overcome. And suspicion of self is a useful, vital even, tool to discover (my) unknown faults. However, my critique in the comment you referenced is neither callous nor ignorant, IMHO.

I think that a good way to view our life here on sh**hole planet Earth is to imagine ourself as a tree, with branches going up and with roots going down. The branches are to yearn for Heaven, and the roots are to grasp and deal with life amongst our fellow imperfect humans.

Thank you for your communication. Cheers.

[Agape]

This situation was planned but delayed since 1989 and the dissolution of former Soviet Union.
I was a teenager back then so do not record the precise chronology of events but as far as meaning goes, I remember very well that Russia practically aimed to annex Ukraine and include it in its territory after the dissolution of the SU,
for many strategical reasons and amount of heavy artillery deposited in Ukraine.

Ukraine back then rejected all offers for subduction of their government and territory and fastly declared independent state and government ( which has been in mess ever since ).

This situation is also a failure of international politics to realise the unique situation of Ukraine among sovereign nations, while they repeatedly requested assistance .


I think that NATO has about one last chance to show support and offer hand in situation of human calamity before it turns to genocide.
Longer they let this “evolve” the situation will turn worse.


They are in chaos and grossly unprepared.

Couple observers and organisers on side of Ukrainians would certainly be of some help,

the time is now , not later.

As some statements above read as well , Russia may attack NATO states and territories inevitably in future if this conflict is allowed to overgrow to full fledged war.
In that case the cost of human force on all national levels will be huge and impact all of us.

It’s not the time to fight but to stop the fight now.




🙏

[Tyy1907]

Exactly. No matter how you slice it, present it, put lipstick on it, no one wins in a military conflict. Let's stop this nonsense before it gains more momentum. :heart::pray:

[s7e6e]

The west MSM is using crisis actors to paint the picture they want. They used old pictures with a Kiev building damaged in a gas explosion and said it was a Russian attack. The tank that run over a car is Ukranian and hit the car by accident. What was cut from the footage were the tank occupants getting out and helping the car's occupant who btw survived.

So it's OK when we invade countless countries and wreak havoc but when Putin has the audacity to place his country so close to the tens of NATO military installations surrounding Russia, that's CRIMINAL.

What about the war for rare earth minerals? What about the tens of US run bio-weapon laboratories in Ukraine? What about the Biden and Pelosi's investments in the labs? What about Zelenskyy being a US puppet, selling his country to the globalists and instigating civilians to fight against Russian special forces with Molotov cocktails?

Can someone stop this spinning ball of lies? I want to get off now...

[BMJ]

Who better to hear from than the people on the ground in Ukraine, this gentlemen and his opinion on the invasion, ukraine and President Putin.

Link: https://t.me/Absolute1776/7275

[Kalamos]

Who better to hear from than the people on the ground in Ukraine, this gentlemen and his opinion on the invasion, ukraine and President Putin.

Link: https://t.me/Absolute1776/7275

I'm just over here thinking: WTF BS is THAT? IDK, I need to read this thread some maybe? Russia invading Ukraine is a good thing?

[Matthew]

It might be a quirk of the region but this last few days civilian training is being normalised in the press. Effect of war on the locals is being normalised in the press. Is that the payload?

[Mashika]

Well Ukraine people better brace themselves, this is unexpected event

The ex-Nashi leadership (the bad part of it) has raised a call for all ex-nashi to regroup and build their own army. They believe Putin's army is not doing enough against Ukraine

These are people who i consider equal or even worse than the Azov, they are rabid animals, red beret Spetsnaz level deranged minds who take orders from no one. They are the reason the Nashi was disbanded back in 2012. They are brutal killers, they don't care for anything or anyone but themselves, pure Nazi on their own, the likes the Azov regiment has no idea about

We may be talking about 50+ thousand elements who may respond to the call, possibly more. They equal ISIS or similar groups in the way they handle things in the battle field

This is very unexpected, i don't know how this came to be so suddenly. They had been silent for lots of years since 2015

But we will see what happens, maybe they will be shutdown (i truly hope so)



After the Z-operation, a serious conversation with those "ours" (Nashi) who are now "speaking out" against Mother Russia is inevitable.

Believes the former commander of the brigade "Ghost" Alexei Mozgovoy, 4th brigade NM LNR Yuri Shevchenko


"A serious conversation" means a direct confrontation

The call was made through several private channels, i don't know if this will be pointed out on any main stream media

Those people will not listen to Russia or Ukraine or anyone else. I hope if this happens both Ukraine and Russia understand the problem and join against them.

That Nashi section is not fair game, they don't play by any rules but they own

Will be seeing you guys +

[XelNaga]

One can like or dislike Putin, agree or disagree with him, stand by him or against him, but this fact stil remains:
He is the most competent and the most intelligent president of any country at this time. That man is no fool, contrary to most US and EU leaders in the last couple of decades.

[9ideon]

Ukraine forms Foreign Legion.

Selenskyy asks for People from all over the World to come and join their fight against Russia.

Ukraine establishing foreign legion for volunteers from abroad - President -

KYIV (Reuters) - Ukraine is establishing a foreign "international" legion for volunteers from abroad, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Sunday.

"This will be the key evidence of your support for our country," Zelenskiy said in a statement.

Source:

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/ukraine-establishing-foreign-legion-for-volunteers-from-abroad---president/47384914

I have to say that this is a brilliant move by a desperate Nation. I also am of the conviction that this has not been coughed up by Zelenskyy, this comes from somewhere else. It is also a huge mistake.

[mizo]

Interesting viewpoints - via set of Tweets.

https://twitter.com/Karllacey3rd/status/1497523558716747777

[Gwin Ru]

...

... from Jim Stone:

More war updates (http://82.221.129.208/1/.to4.html)

The propaganda is in overdrive. I am trying to filter the BS. As usual I will correct any errors that are made.

American in Kiev hotel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo) explains the B.S. in America's MSM from the perspective of being in Ukraine. 20 minutes, well worth it.

COMPLETELY UNCONFIRMED RUMOR: A large number of U.S. warships have entered the Taiwan strait.

Financial director for Gazprom - Russia's largest company - committed suicide???? (https://twitter.com/MarketRebels/status/1497675529490767881) DOUBT IT, but that won't make him less dead.

JIMMY SCHUTO TO WOLF BLITZER ON LIVE TV:

WOLF: "The Ukranian forces are doing a great job of slowing down the Russian army"

Jimmy: "Yes, it has caused the Russians to outrun their supply lines".You can't make this stuff up!!! When fighting a war, make sure you don't kick butt so bad your supply lines can't keep up!!! Yes, the truth has a way of seeping through the cracks.

1vdiEABLFoo

[BMJ]

Ukraine, Kazakhstan 2.0?

President Putin went into Kazakhstan to clean out the deep state now there seems to be a link to the Khazar and Ukraine.

So is President Putin move into Ukraine stage 2 of this deep state clean out?

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eJIh2A29gcM/VAW-Id7699I/AAAAAAAAAfY/YKByyfukf94/s1600/tamga.png

Israel’s Secret Plan for a “Second Israel” in Ukraine

Republished Article

Originally published on 2014-12-08

Author: Wayne Madsen

Source: Strategic Culture Foundation

“Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine”, Jim Wald, The Times of Israel, March 16, 2014."

Quote:
" The role of Jewish figures and that of the State of Israel in the Ukrainian crisis has not gone unnoticed considering that this community represents less than 1 percent of the population.

However, a secret report in the hands of the Netanyahu administration confirms that Ashkenazi Jews do not originate from the Levant, but are the descendants of the Khazars.

This little-known population founded a Jewish empire in the tenth century on the banks of the Black Sea. Therefore, some Zionists see in Ukraine a possible second Israel. "

Link: http://global-politics.eu/israels-secret-plan-second-israel-ukraine/

[Spiral]

Wade Frazier posted a link to this on his thread, it's from April 2015, and gives a chilling insight into the nazis that have taken control of Ukraine, their history & direct lineage from the most brutal units of the SS.

Considering the way they genocided thousands of Jews, it's probably not really that likely to become a second Israel.

http://www.ukrainewar.info/the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of/

Short clip from said article


In an OpEd in the LA Times, entitled “Ukraine’s Threat from Within,” Director of the School of International Relations at USC Robert English very concisely warns that “the way Ukrainian Ultra Nationalists whitewash Bandera history, which is their past, makes the present and future all that much more scary.”

The Banderas, or Banderites, are activists in the Ukrainian Ultra Nationalist movement that is now in control of the government in Ukraine. Under the militant leadership of Stepan Bandera in World War II, the ultra-nationalists organized the Ukrainian Waffen SS Galician, Nichtengall, and Roland Divisions that collaborated with the Nazis and were responsible for the genocide of over 500,000 people. Following the war, however, Ukrainian Nazis were the only group to escape trial at Nuremburg for crimes against humanity. Moreover, neither the Banderas, the Ukrainian Waffen SS, nor any other Ukrainian collaborators have ever apologized for their participation in genocide.






Mod note from Bill:
The article (published on 13 April 2015) has been taken down, but I found it on archive.org:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161001194653/https://ukrainewar.info/the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of

[Deux Corbeaux]

Sorry, but can’t open the link. I get this:

404 Not Found

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Message: The specified key does not exist.
Key: the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of/index.html
RequestId: EX6P0MKK0EP7ND00
HostId: /xlcUN8jjtXiyfLvw2JvaS1Kl8GSkdMgYN0BAvsVhg6KCi7BnsYm2NB/6oUbIY4UdY3Vuk3t010=
An Error Occurred While Attempting to Retrieve a Custom Error Document

Code: NoSuchKey
Message: The specified key does not exist.
Key: 404.html






Mod note from Bill:
The article (published on 13 April 2015) has been taken down, but I found it on archive.org:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161001194653/https://ukrainewar.info/the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of
I've also amended it in the post above.
:thumbsup:


*** Thanks Bill 👍🏼

[BMJ]

1vdiEABLFoo[/CENTER]

Great video thank you Gwin Ru for sharing. The enemy of Russia, Ukraine and humanity is the 1% (globalist satanic elite) not the people. Hence the russian strategy which makes perfect sense.

[Gwin Ru]

...

... other "news":

1497906745116704770


... I guess they didn't want to have an Alec Baldwin repeat on set...

[mizo]

MSM Now reporting:

Putin puts Russia's strategic nuclear force on 'special alert'
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered the Russian military to put its nuclear forces on "special alert" - the highest level of alert for Russia's Strategic Missile Forces.

Speaking to top military officials, including Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, he said Western nations had taken "unfriendly actions" towards Russia and imposed "illegitimate sanctions".


Well I s'pose that be the one scenario/gambit to bring it all to an effective conclusion...

[Mike Gorman]

1vdiEABLFoo[/CENTER]

Great video thank you Gwin Ru for sharing. The enemy of Russia, Ukraine and humanity is the 1% (globalist satanic elite) not the people. Hence the russian strategy which makes perfect sense.

The fellow making this video is brilliant, he makes such wonderful sense; few of us understand the subtleties of this situation, I know that I don't! I sense Putin and Russia have actually good intentions, Russia is doing God's work I feel, the criminality is with NATO and the globalist groups, we are witnessing an acute escalation of the issues, the picture will become clearer over time!

[Tintin]

...

... more from Jim Stone:SWIFT BAN TO COMMENCE AT 1 AM Eastern time if Russia does get banned. (http://82.221.129.208/1/.to4.html)



And now confirmed:

Source: Sunday Times (UK) (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4505243e-9750-11ec-addf-533e9597e348?shareToken=9ec0c10143d992703b6495eb6515bc58)

Allies expel Russia from Swift banking system

Britain and its western allies last night agreed to throw Russian banks out of the Swift payments system, in a move expected to cripple the country’s economy.

After days of negotiations, Britain, the United States and European Union agreed measures which will prevent several of Russia’s key financial institutions from operating globally.

The announcement marks a significant shift in stance by a number of European countries, including Germany, who were previously reluctant due to their heavy reliance on Russian gas and oil.

In a late-night press conference, Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, said that the measure would stop the banks targeted “from operating worldwide and effectively block Russian exports and imports”.

In a statement co-ordinated with Britain, the commission and Canada, the White House said that the group of western powers were “resolved to continue imposing costs on Russia that will further isolate Russia from the international financial system and our economies”. The move was designed to ensure “that selected Russian banks are removed from the Swift messaging system,” it said.

Previous estimates have suggested that ousting Russia from Swift could knock up to 5 per cent off the country’s gross domestic product.

[continued (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4505243e-9750-11ec-addf-533e9597e348?shareToken=9ec0c10143d992703b6495eb6515bc58)...]

[9ideon]

Russia has put its special Nuclear units on high Alert

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-vladimir-putin-orders-military-command-to-put-nuclear-deterrence-forces-on-high-alert-12553278

Ukraine also open for talks with Russia, peace talks might take place on the Border of Ukraine and Belarus.

[Bill Ryan]

Linking here to several new articles that may be interesting to readers. (I'll not copy them in full)

From Zero Hedge:


4 Historical Maps That Explain The USSR (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/4-historical-maps-explain-ussr)
Chernobyl Is Now A War Zone: What Could Go Wrong? (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/4-historical-maps-explain-ussr)
In "Unacceptable Escalation", Putin Orders "Nuclear Deterrence" Forces On Alert (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/4-historical-maps-explain-ussr)

From RT:


Video shows Russian and Ukrainian troops guarding Chernobyl plant together (https://www.rt.com/russia/550728-russian-ukraine-troops-guard-chernobyl/)

From the UK Daily Mail:


Is Putin set to unleash the father of all bombs on defiant Ukraine? (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10555715/Is-rattled-Putin-set-unleash-father-bombs.html)
Did the heroes of Snake Island survive or is Putin up to his old tricks? Kremlin releases picture of 13 brave soldiers who chose to fight to the death against Russian forces and claims they actually surrendered (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10556129/Hero-Ukrainian-troops-believed-killed-likely-SURVIVED.html)

[Gwin Ru]

VIDEO shows Russian and Ukrainian troops guarding Chernobyl plant together (https://www.rt.com/russia/550728-russian-ukraine-troops-guard-chernobyl/)
(https://www.rt.com/russia/550728-russian-ukraine-troops-guard-chernobyl/)
RT
27 Feb, 2022 05:40

Moscow has released a video claiming to show soldiers from both countries guarding the defunct facility


https://cdni.rt.com/files/2022.02/xxs/621a9c6685f5400ee94e232d.png
A screenshot from the video provided by the Russian Defense Ministry. © Russian Defense Ministry


Russian paratroopers are keeping watch over the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant along with the Ukrainian National Guard, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Saturday as it published a video supposedly showing soldiers from both forces guarding the premises.

The Russian forces “reached an agreement” with the nuclear power plant guard battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard, the ministry’s press service said in a statement. Both nations’ soldiers are currently providing security at the power plant’s units, spent fuel storehouses, and the protective dome built over the sarcophagus of the destroyed fourth reactor, it added.

The two-minute video released by the ministry shows the area around the power plant and people armed with assault rifles. The footage also shows two men in military uniform, one with a Ukrainian flag on his arm, discussing the security cameras and motion detectors in the area.

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According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the power plant staff is working as normal, and the nuclear environment at the site remains safe. The video also shows people who appear to be power plant employees and military personnel measuring the radiation levels.

One man who appears to be a Russian serviceman is heard in the video saying that the nuclear environment is being monitored six times a day and that the situation remains under control.


https://cdni.rt.com/files/2022.02/xxs/6219183b20302739492a7f1d.jpg (https://www.rt.com/russia/550652-chernobyl-plant-state-revealed/)


The Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant was the site of the worst nuclear catastrophe in history in 1986, when its fourth reactor went into meltdown. A gigantic steel sarcophagus, which took years to construct, now covers the dilapidated structure around the crippled reactor, which will remain radioactive for years to come.

Russian forces took control of the area, located in the north of Ukraine not far from the border with Belarus, on Thursday after President Vladimir Putin launched a military operation in Ukraine.

The Ukrainian nuclear agency and Interior Ministry claimed on Friday that there were increased radiation levels from the site of the defunct power plant. Reuters reported that the increase might have been caused by radioactive dust in the area that rose due to heavy equipment moving through the area.

[norman]

Why, during a Russian invasion, would the Dead Chernobyl Plant be a site where soldiers would put up a fight to defend it ?

If that story is true, I'm puzzled by it.

[mizo]

Why, during a Russian invasion, would the Dead Chernobyl Plant be a site where soldiers would put up a fight to defend it ?

If that story is true, I'm puzzled by it.

Wasn't Chernobyl supposedly referenced in the bible - Book of Revelation's as Wormwood?

Just clutching at straws for the reason :)

added thought Also, makes nonsense of todays Putins' todays Nuclear alert status

[Gwin Ru]

Why, during a Russian invasion, would the Dead Chernobyl Plant be a site where soldiers would put up a fight to defend it ?

If that story is true, I'm puzzled by it.My guess it's because none of the neighbors want nor need to have to wait another 50 years for the radioactive dust to settle... and, according to the video above your post, both Russians and Ukrainians are on site monitoring current radiation levels.

[jaybee]

Why, during a Russian invasion, would the Dead Chernobyl Plant be a site where soldiers would put up a fight to defend it ?

If that story is true, I'm puzzled by it.


I wonder if there was illegal enrichment of uranium taking place under cover of the radiation at Chernobyl - radiation from nuclear materials can be detected and I think everywhere is monitored, maybe from satellites... perhaps nuclear war heads were being made and held right close to the containment area - so Russia wouldn't be able to detect it.... and it might have been going to be ready for a potential surprise nuclear attack that would be so close to the ground it would go under the radar...

speculation.... ^^^

another interesting point the Chernobyl power plant is on the same longitude as the Great Pyramid of Giza... I saw somewhere years ago but can't find it now that power plants might have to be situated on specific points on the earths energy/light grid to help keep the fission going at a certain level.... (think I remember that right...)

[Gwin Ru]

...

... disclosure:

1497771232426561538



The question "Will it post? or no?" is due to this:



SciFi World (https://t.me/scifiworld0)

Gonads....meet chopping block...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/o1ANOeXCdh87/

BitChute
(https://www.bitchute.com/video/o1ANOeXCdh87/)
BitChute is a peer-to-peer social video platform.
BitChute aims to put creators first and provide them with a service that they can use to flourish and express their ideas freely.
(https://www.bitchute.com/video/o1ANOeXCdh87/)
15.1K viewsClif High, 05:02 (https://t.me/scifiworld0/1123)
... try to view that Bitchute video...

[Bill Ryan]

Here's the Bitchute video that Clif High referenced in the post above:

B7sQCDRKpN1O

[jaybee]

1vdiEABLFoo[/CENTER]

Great video thank you Gwin Ru for sharing. The enemy of Russia, Ukraine and humanity is the 1% (globalist satanic elite) not the people. Hence the russian strategy which makes perfect sense.

The fellow making this video is brilliant, he makes such wonderful sense; few of us understand the subtleties of this situation, I know that I don't! I sense Putin and Russia have actually good intentions, Russia is doing God's work I feel, the criminality is with NATO and the globalist groups, we are witnessing an acute escalation of the issues, the picture will become clearer over time!


Thanks for verbalizing that... perhaps Putin and the Russian Army are actually Draining the Swamp in Ukraine... something Trump wanted to do in America, but couldn't when it came to it because the Swamp (NWO Deep State) were too deeply embedded in the US...and they (Swamp) don't give an inch and double down at the first sign of trouble and become very ruthless and dangerous...

With the talk of mercenaries being encouraged to go and fight in Ukraine (if what was reported in a previous post is right...) .... the whole country could go the same way as Iraq as the man making the video said... or Syria I was thinking - where there were lots of different factions fighting but they kind of coalesced into a proxy army for the Globalists against Assad....

[norman]

I'm hesitant to say this, at such a time, in this thread, but, "what about the servers ?"

Ukraine was one of the countries identified as being involved in the chain of data traffic during the 2020 US election shenanigans.

[Spiral]

Why, during a Russian invasion, would the Dead Chernobyl Plant be a site where soldiers would put up a fight to defend it ?

If that story is true, I'm puzzled by it.

The "normal" Ukrainian forces that guard the site are obviously just as worried as the Russians are that the lunatic Nazis the US has installed in power could use the site as the source for the biggest "dirty bomb" imaginable , esp as a last gasp FU to Europe & Russia.

BTW the nazis aren't neo-nazis, they are a movement that has been funded & kept alive since WW2, by the US.

[edina]

Here's the Bitchute video that Clif High referenced in the post above:

B7sQCDRKpN1O

I thought this looked familiar so I went back and looked.

This was shared in a couple of Q posts on 20 November 2019 (https://qalerts.app/?q=interfax). In the height and heat of the first Trump impeachment and other media narrative skirmishes of the time.
It got lost, diminished and buried at the time.

Here's a link to the original press conference on

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/625831.html

and another to a financial disclosure report, for anyone interested.

https://disclosures-clerk.house.gov/public_disc/financial-pdfs/2016/10016142.pdf

It doesn't look to have the interview with the young men, so I feel archiving the video that clif shared is still useful, in addition to the original press conference.

(note added, correction, post #3607 was posted 20 Nov 2019
post #4932 was posted on 22 Oct 2020)

cross-posted here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100318-The-Qanon-posts-and-associated-US-political-analysis&p=1485574&viewfull=1#post1485574)

[Denise/Dizi]

Well Ukraine people better brace themselves, this is unexpected event

The ex-Nashi leadership (the bad part of it) has raised a call for all ex-nashi to regroup and build their own army. They believe Putin's army is not doing enough against Ukraine

These are people who i consider equal or even worse than the Azov, they are rabid animals, red beret Spetsnaz level deranged minds who take orders from no one. They are the reason the Nashi was disbanded back in 2012. They are brutal killers, they don't care for anything or anyone but themselves, pure Nazi on their own, the likes the Azov regiment has no idea about

We may be talking about 50+ thousand elements who may respond to the call, possibly more. They equal ISIS or similar groups in the way they handle things in the battle field

This is very unexpected, i don't know how this came to be so suddenly. They had been silent for lots of years since 2015

But we will see what happens, maybe they will be shutdown (i truly hope so)



After the Z-operation, a serious conversation with those "ours" (Nashi) who are now "speaking out" against Mother Russia is inevitable.

Believes the former commander of the brigade "Ghost" Alexei Mozgovoy, 4th brigade NM LNR Yuri Shevchenko


"A serious conversation" means a direct confrontation

The call was made through several private channels, i don't know if this will be pointed out on any main stream media

Those people will not listen to Russia or Ukraine or anyone else. I hope if this happens both Ukraine and Russia understand the problem and join against them.

That Nashi section is not fair game, they don't play by any rules but they own

Will be seeing you guys +

Malisa...

Kudos... This is the best opinion piece I have seen you write on this thread thus far... And I mean that..

I stopped reading the thread because I felt your tone was very hostile to anyone else posting their own opinions... I posted two links and felt that you not only insulted me, but my fellow Americans (Who truly are looking for honest answers themselves) for my efforts, claiming something along the lines of we are unaware, and have no clue of what has happened to Ukraine for the past 8 years. And we "Just noticed" this is a problem... That was not true... We know that things have been happening there... I am on this thread to learn more, not to be told I am stupid for sharing.

And as you say, we are also aware of the bias of all media outlets on this planet... I decided not to reply then, because I was upset. And I recognize there is a language barrier, and that you have personally been affected in all of this... So of course you would have a personal beef with everything happening... And I didn't want to offend you... The truth is, All of the military powers of the world do what they wish, along with the politicians, and I felt calling anyone stupid was unnecessary... Truly us lazy fat Americans really have no say, just as those in Ukraine just trying to muddle through whatever happens...

You made no apologies for doing so, and continue to be unapologetic.. And that's you, as you say...but I want you to know that you would reach more to just post as this one above, without pointing fingers at those who are just trying to get by... These are not the people making the decisions, and truly there is little the average citizen of any country could do to help those in Ukraine, or in any conflict area...

The new post here however has a different tone... One I can appreciate... We are not your enemy, and we are here to learn and see what is truly happening... without the "Spin" as well... I hope that your future posts are much like this one, as it was greatly appreciated! And I am sure many would agree...

Thank You so very much for your efforts here... And I hope you continue to post... Without calling everyone else names, and accusing them of not wanting the truth. That's why we are here..

[jaybee]

Thank You so very much for your efforts here... And I hope you continue to post... Without calling everyone else names, and accusing them of not wanting the truth. That's why we are here..

Can we just give Malisa a break now please - she is naturally going to feel very strongly about all these developments in Ukraine having been personally involved... and she was more or less provoked to make the replies that upset you (provocation either accidental or deliberate) - let's be understanding about what she has been through and grateful to have her input...

thanks

[Bill Ryan]

This article really does need to be copied here in full.

As a personal comment, I've been astonished (but maybe I shouldn't have been!) how hypocritical many of the mainstream pundits have been.

It's possible they just don't know the history or the real story, but it's also possible their scripts are being given to them to present. Information warfare is all part of this conflict.


https://zerohedge.com/geopolitical/question-all-it-current-western-propaganda-ukraine-epic-scale

'Question all of it' - The Current Western Propaganda For Ukraine is Epic in Scale

~~~
When we shared yesterday (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/25/hillary-clinton-calls-for-non-governmental-actors-and-hackers-to-lead-the-united-states-military-into-a-hot-war-against-russia-in-ukraine/) that all interested observers should be very wary of the information from media sources around Ukraine, there was a reason for that. Question everything. Take nothing at face value.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Ukraine-propaganda-2.jpg

If you have never experienced the propaganda push surrounding war, the totality of the inbound bullsh*t can be destabilizing, overwhelming and unnerving. It’s one of the reasons why CTH doesn’t share immediate information. Everyone has an agenda.
Everything we are seeing in U.S. media surrounding U.S. interests in Ukraine is a massive propaganda operation with the headquarters in the U.S. State Department and U.S. intelligence community. The sense of sympathy you are feeling is part of an intentionally manipulative operation from within this DC matrix.
The images, pictures, videos, speeches, soundbites and the cinematography broadcast by U.S. corporate media are all purposefully intended to create a very specific outlook within the American people toward the issues in Ukraine. The leftist United Nations, and the leftist U.S State Dept, will work together on this just like they have done in the prior examples (Ukraine 1.0, Libya, Egypt, etc.).
It is very easy to become a victim of psychological warfare intended to manipulate our opinions.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Ukraine-Propaganda-3.jpg

The neocons, war promoting agents working on behalf of the UniParty and the collective globalist interests, are all united in their effort.

Unfortunately, almost everything being transmitted from corporate news into our psyche is part of a battle for your mind. The goal is to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This is why people who are familiar with these types of tactics often tap-out when the drumbeats get loudest.

See: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1497609615151800323.html

The White House, which means the total globalist effort, tipped their hand earlier last week (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/24/white-house-defines-strategic-success-against-russia-as-the-value-of-their-story-who-is-more-attractive-to-the-world/) when they defined “strategic power” and their outlook toward winning the battle for the mind. Everything is about writing a script, creating a narrative, building a “better story,” where the globalists are the heroes. In essence, the “strategic power” battle is for your mind…

https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/White-House-Daleep-Singh-Deputy-NSA.jpg?itok=X1RDa4Uh
…”Ultimately, the goal of our sanctions is to make this a strategic failure for Russia; and let’s define a little bit of what that means. Strategic success in the 21st century is not about a physical land grab of territory; that’s what Putin has done.
In this century, strategic power is increasingly measured and exercised by economic strength, by technological sophistication and your story – who you are, what your values are; can you attract ideas and talent and goodwill? And on each of those measures, this will be a failure for Russia.”
Everything in modern warfare is storytelling.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Not sure this has been posted but it’s doing the rounds...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix/four4.jpg


Viking

[ExomatrixTV]

Vladimir Putin's Speech on Ukraine and US Foreign Policy and NATO - 24 February 2022, ENG Subtitles:

1qS6J-WbTD8




Putin places nuclear deterrence forces on high alert:

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source (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=250920070574946)

[ExomatrixTV]

621a829780e6a52c84ac6f99

[gord]

These don't seem to work with the pdf tags. I don't know if they're useful.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200703043608/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-URAPI-CRL-eng.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20210502002037/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/kiev-ivm-fact-sheet-eng.pdf

[ExomatrixTV]

3 Reasons the U.S. Responsible For What is Happening In Ukraine

https://mjhbpbsuxizn.ent-cdn.com/videos/6/2/1/b/d/621bd31992a19.mp4


source (https://sovren.media/video/3-reasons-the-u-s-responsible-for-what-is-happening-in-ukraine-842.html)

[Patient]

These don't seem to work with the pdf tags. I don't know if they're useful.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200703043608/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-URAPI-CRL-eng.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20210502002037/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/kiev-ivm-fact-sheet-eng.pdf

Oh yes - they work fine!

[Ewan]

These don't seem to work with the pdf tags. I don't know if they're useful.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200703043608/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/dtro-URAPI-CRL-eng.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20210502002037/https://photos.state.gov/libraries/ukraine/895/pdf/kiev-ivm-fact-sheet-eng.pdf

Oh yes - they work fine!

Agreed, can see them no problem. Thanks.

[Patient]

I just saw a video from Ukraine - streets full of normal traffic, everything open and all good!

(apologies, as it is not mine to post, or I would.)

But it is legit info.

[gnostic9]

Timeline: Euromaidan, the original “Ukraine Crisis” Genuine grassroots revolution or NATO backed coup? Here are the facts to help you decide.

Kit Knightly

https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/24/timeline-euromaidan-the-original-ukraine-crisis/


Love peace and joy to all!

[mountain_jim]

An excerpt from Whitney Webbs's 2/22/22 investigative Report - food for thought

later (sorry for misinfo - written by IAIN DAVIS on Whitney's site.)



https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02/investigative-reports/technocracy-the-operating-system-for-the-new-international-rules-based-order-1/

https://unlimitedhangout.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Feature-1160x680.jpeg



Technocracy: The Operating System For The New International Rules-Based Order


The International Rules-Based Order (IRBO) is under threat and global power is shifting. As East and West rekindle old enmities we are led to believe that this struggle will determine the future of international relations and the direction of nation states. However, the global transformation is not led by national governments but by a global network of stakeholders and global technocracy is their goal.

In this article, we will explore the true nature of the international rules-based order (IRBO) and examine the forces that shape it. We will consider if the narratives we are commonly fed stack up.

< snip >

In terms of G3P partnerships, Russia’s is perhaps one of the closest to the WEF. The WEF’s annual Cyber-Polygon global cybersecurity training exercise is orchestrated by Bi.Zone, a subsidiary of Sberbank.

Bi.Zone is responsible for designing and running the Cyber Polygon scenarios and exercises. Sberbank is a majority state owned Russian bank and is among the founding members of the WEF Centre For Cybersecurity (CCS).


Source: Carnegie
Other CCS partners include leading US foreign Policy think-tank the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (CEIP), Europol (representing EU governments), INTERPOL, the Organisation of American States (representing the governments of the North and South American subcontinents), and national cyber security centres from Israel, the UK, Korea, Saudi Arabia and Switzerland (home of the BIS).

Of the many corporations involved in Cyber Polygon 2021, Russian companies formed the largest contingent from any single nation. In addition, the WEF partners with the St Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF.)

The SPIEF International Foundation was formed in St Petersburg in 1998 under the direction of Herman Gref. He was serving as vice governor of the city at the time.

In 1993, Gref was also a close associate of Anotoly Sobchak in St Petersburg where Putin was Sobchak’s senior advisor. Gref is currently the CEO and Chairman of Sberbank.

In 2017, Schwab recognised that the SPIEF and Russia were global leaders on international regulation and stated:

“In the new economic environment and with due regard for the latest technological breakthroughs, we are faced with the need for new cooperation formats. [. . .] I am absolutely positive that Russia, as one of the leaders in responsible global regulation, must play a central role in determining new forms of co-existence in the era of the fourth industrial revolution.”

Russia and the SPIEF are part of the G3P network and are heavily involved in global cybersecurity and, in particular, the regulation of technology. It is clear that, through partners like the CFR, BMGF and the WEF, the Global Public-Private Partnership is pushing a global policy agenda supported by both sides of the East-West divide.

WEF assets, like Trudeau and other compromised officials, are positioned to ensure policy distribution is as frictionless as possible. The Russian and, as we shall see, Chinese governments are equally active stakeholders in the G3P’s global governance efforts.

If we believed the western MSM, this would present a seemingly unfathomable conundrum. While these nation states are G3P partners, we are told that they are also undermining the IRBO. Something doesn’t add up.

According to Reuters, European banks need to prepare for Russian cyber attacks. CBS claims the DHS are on full alert for the looming cyber war, while the UK media carried the same scary stories. Forbes reported that Russia had been waging a cyber war against the West for 20 years and the Guardian alleged that this was typical fare for the Russian Federation.

All of this seems extremely odd given that western global corporations such as IBM, Deutsche Bank and Santander were engaged in cyber polygon preparedness exercises that were largely run by a Russian state-owned bank. If any of the MSM’s claims are even remotely plausible, the industrial espionage risk alone would appear to have been off the charts.

Governments from across the western world participate in the WEF Cyber Security Centre which was founded, in part, by Sberbank. At the same time, they keep warning their populations about the danger of Russian cyber attacks.

Frankly, these Russian cyber-threat stories are puerile. The western governments and corporations, who appear to follow G3P orders to the letter, are seemingly content to be guided by a Russian state bank’s cybersecurity assessment and recommendations.

A far more credible rationale for these MSM stories and government fearmongering is that they are designed to prepare us, and provide justification, for the digital transformation of the financial sector. In their 2020 cyber threats report, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (CEIP) stated that the pseudopandemic had necessitated this change.

In a barely concealed reference to Russia and China, the CEIP asserted that cyber attacks from nation states were inevitable. They then predicted that the response to this supposedly unavoidable attack would be to fuse the activities of banks, the financial authorities and the national security apparatus of nation states.

Centralising authority, especially over financial systems, is always the solution as far as the G3P are concerned. Primarily because they assume the right to exercise that authority.

On the major issues, governments don’t form policy and policy is instead curated by the G3P think-tanks like the CEIP. We should not labour under the illusion that the think-tanks simply offer suggestions. They have the financial, economic and political power to make decisions on the global stage and they have done so for generations.

< much more at link >

[Mashika]

https://t.me/rt_russian/95500


Ukrainian border guards do not allow black refugees to the Polish border - only Ukrainians.

An African student told about it on Twitter. According to him, the security forces pointed weapons at them and threatened them.

He noted that there was a crowd of refugees with children on the Ukrainian-Polish border for several days. Later it was reported that they still managed to break through to the border with Poland.

Earlier, the network published other footage from the border: it is alleged that Poles beat Indian students.

[Mashika]

Well Ukraine people better brace themselves, this is unexpected event

The ex-Nashi leadership (the bad part of it) has raised a call for all ex-nashi to regroup and build their own army. They believe Putin's army is not doing enough against Ukraine

These are people who i consider equal or even worse than the Azov, they are rabid animals, red beret Spetsnaz level deranged minds who take orders from no one. They are the reason the Nashi was disbanded back in 2012. They are brutal killers, they don't care for anything or anyone but themselves, pure Nazi on their own, the likes the Azov regiment has no idea about

We may be talking about 50+ thousand elements who may respond to the call, possibly more. They equal ISIS or similar groups in the way they handle things in the battle field

This is very unexpected, i don't know how this came to be so suddenly. They had been silent for lots of years since 2015

But we will see what happens, maybe they will be shutdown (i truly hope so)



After the Z-operation, a serious conversation with those "ours" (Nashi) who are now "speaking out" against Mother Russia is inevitable.

Believes the former commander of the brigade "Ghost" Alexei Mozgovoy, 4th brigade NM LNR Yuri Shevchenko


"A serious conversation" means a direct confrontation

The call was made through several private channels, i don't know if this will be pointed out on any main stream media

Those people will not listen to Russia or Ukraine or anyone else. I hope if this happens both Ukraine and Russia understand the problem and join against them.

That Nashi section is not fair game, they don't play by any rules but they own

Will be seeing you guys +

Malisa...

Kudos... This is the best opinion piece I have seen you write on this thread thus far... And I mean that..

I stopped reading the thread because I felt your tone was very hostile to anyone else posting their own opinions... I posted two links and felt that you not only insulted me, but my fellow Americans (Who truly are looking for honest answers themselves) for my efforts, claiming something along the lines of we are unaware, and have no clue of what has happened to Ukraine for the past 8 years. And we "Just noticed" this is a problem... That was not true... We know that things have been happening there... I am on this thread to learn more, not to be told I am stupid for sharing.

And as you say, we are also aware of the bias of all media outlets on this planet... I decided not to reply then, because I was upset. And I recognize there is a language barrier, and that you have personally been affected in all of this... So of course you would have a personal beef with everything happening... And I didn't want to offend you... The truth is, All of the military powers of the world do what they wish, along with the politicians, and I felt calling anyone stupid was unnecessary... Truly us lazy fat Americans really have no say, just as those in Ukraine just trying to muddle through whatever happens...

You made no apologies for doing so, and continue to be unapologetic.. And that's you, as you say...but I want you to know that you would reach more to just post as this one above, without pointing fingers at those who are just trying to get by... These are not the people making the decisions, and truly there is little the average citizen of any country could do to help those in Ukraine, or in any conflict area...

The new post here however has a different tone... One I can appreciate... We are not your enemy, and we are here to learn and see what is truly happening... without the "Spin" as well... I hope that your future posts are much like this one, as it was greatly appreciated! And I am sure many would agree...

Thank You so very much for your efforts here... And I hope you continue to post... Without calling everyone else names, and accusing them of not wanting the truth. That's why we are here..

You know Denize, we went through this in the past and i asked you that if something i said look bad to please ask me what i truly meant, because sometimes i don't understand how it is perceived on the other side, but you still didn't this time, which makes me very sad since now things look bad

I would write a very long explanation about what's truly going on here but unfortunately i don't have the time to do that anymore. So i'm just going to say i'm truly sorry you took it personal as it was directed to all the people rabidly attacking without any knowledge or interest to know what's behind all of this

Here's a sample of it



Despite the violations that I've heard of that the Ukraine has perpetrated, such as forcing Russians not to speak their language, blocking water to Crimea and soldiers using human shields, there are enough live feeds from Ukraine showing a massive resistance by the Ukrainian population to this invasion Let's cut the bullsh!t. The vast majority of Ukrainians don't see Russia as anything other than ruthless invaders, and atleast a quarter of the adult population are willing to take up arms against them. Russia should pack up and go home and find some other way to get a lasting peace. Russia can be real bastards, just look at what they did to Grozny a few decades ago. And the west isn't afraid of Putin's threats. If Putin and his regime keep this up they will live to greatly regret their decision.

And China knows not to attack Taiwan, the west is well enough equipped to handle both it and Russia.

Don't push it guys, or it'll be a huge mess and Russia and China will come out the big losers.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117999-The-Russian-aggression-against-Finland-Sweden-Baltic-countries&p=1485475&viewfull=1#post1485475

So much ignorance and bravado behind a keyboard. This is the kind of people i'm talking about, and i'm sorry "Letsplain" but you have no idea what you are talking about, it's just hate disguised as an opinion

So Denize, if you were to read that comment but it would say
"American can be real bastards, just look at what they did to Syria a few years ago"

And it was written by me, how would you feel about it?

Not think that i go through western sites every single day and compare the news there with the things i see here back home, and i have to go through thousands of comments such as that one i quotes above

Do you usually go see the same kind of comments against your country? By the thousands and usually by the same kind of people or specific countries? If you had to in order to find the truth, how would you feel?

All the people who are 'protesting' with that Ukrainian flag are ignorant of the reality of what that country did in 2014 and has done since then.

Now they are killing people on the streets of certain ages, if they don't see them wearing a gun and uniform, indiscrimenately (yes i typed that wrong in purpose) If you are of fighting age, and they find you without a gun, you are a traitor and get killed on the stop

Now tell those people protesting with their flags that this is what is truly going on and how that's the true nature of the Ukraine Nazi military. This is what the money and guns being sent to Ukraine are truly supporting. You don't see this on your side, but i do day by day from this side

See here, the truth will come out some day
https://t.me/asbmil/277


Unfortunately for me, and for whoever found any value on my comments, i'm going to have to leave now.

So i hope you are all well and keep going strong

I suppose, or hope, there will be a time in the future when we talk again, but for now, this is it for me

[s7e6e]

It's a good thing nukes don't actually exist so all this "escalation" is just a smoke screen and a tv show. Speaking of shows, I just rewatched "Wag the Dog" with Dustin Hoffman, a documentary about sheep keeping with solid references to Kubrick.

I really hope people don't forget about the actual war, the one waged against the humanity, by the psychopathic elites.

[Denise/Dizi]

Sorry Malisa... I didn't mean to upset you... That was not my intent. I actually loved that you shared your personal opinions on what you learned in a way that was purely from the heart.... This is what I meant about things getting lost in translation...

I find it difficult for all kinds of people to communicate effectively these days with so much going on and everyone so wound up...

I want to ask you... because there are things we cannot know, such as do you know of a reputable news source that we can seek out for what is truly happening now in that area? One that just gives facts without slanting it, or misinforming the public to suit any agenda?

I was just told that Elon Musk repositioned his satellites so Ukraine does not lose internet capabilities.. But it seems that depending on where people look the information is so different it is like night and day?

I know there are plenty of people that are examining the information they have, but that still makes one question if it is true information they're debating... So having some other resources would be appreciated?

[Bill Ryan]

Just a few thoughts here, trying to keep ahead of the game just a tiny bit. (Ha!)

1) Earlier today Turkey announced its intention (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-implement-international-pact-access-shipping-straits-due-ukraine-war-2022-02-27/) to close off the Black Sea to Russian warships, something it's entitled to do via the Montreux Convention (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits). In a "time of war", Turkey is permitted to do that via international agreement. And Turkey has now made the judgment that this is war.

But (a) Putin is unlikely to take that lying down. He's likely to take some kind of action of his own. And (b), Turkey is a NATO country. I've not heard discussion of this yet, but this sounds like a very dangerous potential escalation point. If Russia attacks a NATO country militarily, then all bets are off.

2) There are reports (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfSDnsxTSg) (though who knows how reliable they are) that Russian commanders are being frustrated by over-extended logistical supply lines, as a result of which they can't move as far or as fast into Ukraine as they wish, or was planned.

That too is a dangerous situation, because Putin is unlikely to withdraw, even partially. To support the situation from his point of view, tactical nukes (battlefield weapons, not ballistic missiles) could be deployed.

That might not be probable, but it has to be possible. After all, that's why these weapons exist. If even one is deployed to force a tactical advantage, that would also put this conflict into very dangerous uncharted waters.

3) Ukraine's internet is still working, apparently to quite some degree. Some of that (or maybe much of that) is because of (https://www.space.com/elon-musk-says-spacex-starlink-active-ukraine) Elon Musk's Starlink satellites. To disable those, Russia would have to deploy killer satellites to take them down — which it certainly possesses. Those have never been used in warfare, either.

4) The fourth uncharted territory possibility concerns advanced non-nuclear weapons that Russia very probably has (and has hinted at in the past) but has never revealed, and are classified. (Of course, the US and China have those as well.) If any of those are deployed — whatever they do, wherever they're based, and however they work! — then again we might find ourselves in a world of Sci-Fi warfare where not even the mainstream media can report on what's happening... because they won't understand it.

[mountain_jim]

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/100/099/879/small/4e2bead6ed3aaa53.jpg

[ExomatrixTV]

Putin Warns World On Brink of Nuclear War As NATO Ramps Up High-Tech Arms And Sanctions Against Russia (https://www.infowars.com/posts/sunday-live-putin-warns-world-on-brink-of-nuclear-war-as-nato-ramps-up-arms-and-sanctions-against-russia/)

[Sérénité]

Are US Biolabs being targeted?

Here's a somewhat eye-watering piece of research, which may carry some weight.

IF this is what is transpiring then we may be on the verge of Plandemic 2.0.

Source: Thread by @ War Clandestine on ThreadReader App (archived) (https://archive.fo/kyR2q)

Whatever the case may be it's an interesting read:

https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Thread_by_WarClandestine_on_Thread%20_Reader_compressed.pdf

Could it be possible that whilst the world was looking east towards Wuhan for the virus ‘leak’ it maybe came from a lot further west...in Ukraine?

[ExomatrixTV]

Nunes: I Can't Even Believe This Story Is Real:

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¤=[Post Update]=¤


Putin Puts Nuclear Forces On Alert

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[gord]

Mon 29 Nov 2021 07:20:10 AM UTC
American Big Pharma using Ukrainians as Lab Rats What the MSM won't tell you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6tukIveIlg
mirrored here https://www.bitchute.com/video/9b1xM16Wj5Br/

Fri 10 Dec 2021 02:57:59 PM UTC
Bioweapon Development in Ukraine, part 2!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXjNWhTkdYs
mirrored here https://www.bitchute.com/video/1UXTVI48o7Ia/

[Hermoor]

https://twitter.com/backtolife_2022/status/1498050469029048320?cxt=HHwWgMCr4d29ksopAAAA

https://twitter.com/backtolife_2022/status/1498071737501720578?cxt=HHwWhIC9ndyTnMopAAAA

[BMJ]

Thanks for verbalizing that... perhaps Putin and the Russian Army are actually Draining the Swamp in Ukraine... something Trump wanted to do in America, but couldn't when it came to it because the Swamp (NWO Deep State) were too deeply embedded in the US...and they (Swamp) don't give an inch and double down at the first sign of trouble and become very ruthless and dangerous...

You might want to take a look at this article jaybee. POTUS Trump was cleaning house way back in 2017.

DUMBS - CLEANING OUT THE EVIL BELOW

U.S. ARMY IS SPENDING HALF A BILLION TO TRAIN SOLDIERS TO FIGHT UNDERGROUND

To get a perspective of the size and committment to this warfare " 26 of 31 active brigades " are training in this warfare.

What's it about? Cleaning out the deep state cult and saving the trafficked children.

Military.com
24 June 2018

Quote:
" Late last year (2017), the Army launched an accelerated effort that funnels some $572 million into training and equipping 26 of its 31 active combat brigades to fight in large-scale subterranean facilities that exist beneath dense urban areas around the world...
An assessment last year estimates that there are about 10,000 large-scale underground military facilities around the world that are intended to serve as subterranean cities, an Army source, who is not cleared to talk to the press, told Military.com. "

Link: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/24/army-spending-half-billion-train-troops-fight-underground.html?fbclid=IwAR104v4QFho-xVh5ERA8TNQZjI6ao0CxVQhZR1SJLiXAeIWSc3cm7ZRZ7Z0

[BMJ]

Why, during a Russian invasion, would the Dead Chernobyl Plant be a site where soldiers would put up a fight to defend it ?

If that story is true, I'm puzzled by it.

I'm not 100% sure on this but is it possibly the nuclear material could be used to create a dirty bomb by the deep state, hence the need to secure the site by the russians or could the deep state use the Chernobyl plant as a nuclear device.

[9ideon]

Might someone be able to confirm this is either a hoax, some old footage or actually real current footage of set conflict?

e0lIxExCjvw

[9ideon]

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[norman]

Might someone be able to confirm this is either a hoax, some old footage or actually real current footage of set conflict?

e0lIxExCjvw

That's how "I'd" hit a biolab with very dangerous pathogens inside, to make sure nothing pathogenic survived the hit.

[Akasha]

Isn't telecommunications the first victim of a conflict, along with critical military infrastructure such as airports etc? Why is Ukrainian internet still up?

Here is one possible reason (spoiler - datamining) :


SJVhISwTal4

[Hughe]

How many nations the NANO member countries have destroyed after the collapse of Soviet Union?

USA is the ultimate war machine. NANO member countries have become a group of gangsters which enjoy genocide under "World Peace."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_conflicts_involving_the_United_States


Gulf War
(1990–1991)

Iraqi No-Fly Zone Enforcement Operations
(1991–2003)

First Intervention in the Somali Civil War
(1992–1995)

Bosnian War
(1992–1995)

Intervention in Haiti
(1994–1995)

Kosovo War
(1998–1999)

Operation Infinite Reach
(1998)

War in Afghanistan
(2001–2021)

Nepalese Civil War
(2002–2006)

Insurgency in the Maghreb
(2002–present)

Operation Enduring Freedom – Horn of Africa
(2002–present)

Iraq War
(2003–2011)

Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
(2004–present)

War in Somalia
(2007–present)

Operation Ocean Shield
(2009–2016)

2011 military intervention in Libya
(2011)

Operation Observant Compass
(2011-2017)

American-led intervention in Iraq
(2014–2021)

American-led intervention in Syria
(2014–present)

Yemeni Civil War
(2014–present)

American intervention in Libya
(2015–2019)

Persian Gulf crisis
(2019–present)

[norman]

Isn't telecommunications the first victim of a conflict, along with critical military infrastructure such as airports etc? Why is Ukrainian internet still up?

Here is one possible reason (spoiler - datamining) :


SJVhISwTal4


hhmmmm . .

So, add THIS, and it gets even more dynamic and interesting:

Elon Musk Providing Ukraine With Starlink Terminals

https://rumble.com/vw1h5y-elon-musk-providing-ukraine-with-starlink-terminals.html
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[jaybee]

.

So much we don't know about the way Ukraine has been used against Russia since the 'US' backed Coup in 2014... ( 'US' = more likely Globalist Forces using it's control of the US to further it's agenda..)

This popped up on my recommended videos on YT... about water being damned to stop it reaching Crimea -

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SHORT: Russia Ends Another of Ukraine's War Crimes - Fresh Water Flows Again to Crimea


Since 2014 the US-backed regime in Kiev had not only waged relentless war against ethnic-Russians in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine, it also deliberately built a dam to prevent fresh water from reaching Russian Crimea.

While the Western media depicts Russia’s ongoing military operations in Ukraine as a “crime,” Russian forces are in fact ending various long-standing crimes by the current regime against both the Ukrainian people and Ukraine’s neighbors.

This whole situation has been building up for years but we in the West generally didn't realize how bad it was because the Globalists who have 'penetrated' the media, politics and key institutions are working covertly to get Russia under their control and using Ukraine to help do that... if they managed to get rid of Putin and take control of Russia all the anti Russia propaganda would stop over night... (IMO)

[Tintin]

...

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Excellent summary in this video. Very many thanks for sharing this :highfive:

[Sérénité]

Thanks for verbalizing that... perhaps Putin and the Russian Army are actually Draining the Swamp in Ukraine... something Trump wanted to do in America, but couldn't when it came to it because the Swamp (NWO Deep State) were too deeply embedded in the US...and they (Swamp) don't give an inch and double down at the first sign of trouble and become very ruthless and dangerous...

You might want to take a look at this article jaybee. POTUS Trump was cleaning house way back in 2017.

DUMBS - CLEANING OUT THE EVIL BELOW

U.S. ARMY IS SPENDING HALF A BILLION TO TRAIN SOLDIERS TO FIGHT UNDERGROUND

To get a perspective of the size and committment to this warfare " 26 of 31 active brigades " are training in this warfare.

What's it about? Cleaning out the deep state cult and saving the trafficked children.

Military.com
24 June 2018

Quote:
" Late last year (2017), the Army launched an accelerated effort that funnels some $572 million into training and equipping 26 of its 31 active combat brigades to fight in large-scale subterranean facilities that exist beneath dense urban areas around the world...
An assessment last year estimates that there are about 10,000 large-scale underground military facilities around the world that are intended to serve as subterranean cities, an Army source, who is not cleared to talk to the press, told Military.com. "

Link: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/24/army-spending-half-billion-train-troops-fight-underground.html?fbclid=IwAR104v4QFho-xVh5ERA8TNQZjI6ao0CxVQhZR1SJLiXAeIWSc3cm7ZRZ7Z0

Your post caught my eye after something I’ve noticed happen recently, near where I live.

I have an app that logs all air traffic including helicopters.

There is occasionally a lot of military flying over and other air traffic that’s really noisy and sparks an interest, so I keep a watch.

About a month ago it was one of those times the noise caught my attention and I tracked a military helicopter flying over.
It was showing as coming from Imjin Barracks in Gloucestershire, which is home to NATOs ARRC (Allied Rapid Reaction Corps) for high readiness.

It landed in a very rural field not far from where I live and stayed there for several hours.
I was a bit puzzled and it made no sense why they’d fly some 100 odd miles north and land in a remote field in the middle of nowhere, then flew back again.

Some days later after a conversation with a friend about it, it dawned on me there is entrances to a vast underground cave network spanning some several miles in every direction not far from where they landed.
It got me wondering was they on some type of training exercise as it’s the only viable reason I could come up with them being here.

[Jamie]

Not sure this has been posted but it’s doing the rounds...

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix/four4.jpg


Viking

Great post, which I've printed off to show some of my family (the picture).
I'm not brilliant at recognising American politicians, but think the first three are Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and John Kerry.
Just wanted to ask my American Cousins here, who is the fourth person (bottom right). His face is familiar, but I've no idea who he is?!

[norman]

who is the fourth person (bottom right). His face is familiar, but I've no idea who he is?!



Mitt Romney.

[Jamie]

who is the fourth person (bottom right). His face is familiar, but I've no idea who he is?!



Mitt Romney.

Many thanks! :thumbsup:

[Bill Ryan]

Just a few thoughts here, trying to keep ahead of the game just a tiny bit. (Ha!)

1) Earlier today Turkey announced its intention (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-implement-international-pact-access-shipping-straits-due-ukraine-war-2022-02-27/) to close off the Black Sea to Russian warships, something it's entitled to do via the Montreux Convention (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits). In a "time of war", Turkey is permitted to do that via international agreement. And Turkey has now made the judgment that this is war.

But (a) Putin is unlikely to take that lying down. He's likely to take some kind of action of his own. And (b), Turkey is a NATO country. I've not heard discussion of this yet, but this sounds like a very dangerous potential escalation point. If Russia attacks a NATO country militarily, then all bets are off.

2) There are reports (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfSDnsxTSg) (though who knows how reliable they are) that Russian commanders are being frustrated by over-extended logistical supply lines, as a result of which they can't move as far or as fast into Ukraine as they wish, or was planned.

That too is a dangerous situation, because Putin is unlikely to withdraw, even partially. To support the situation from his point of view, tactical nukes (battlefield weapons, not ballistic missiles) could be deployed.

That might not be probable, but it has to be possible. After all, that's why these weapons exist. If even one is deployed to force a tactical advantage, that would also put this conflict into very dangerous uncharted waters.

3) Ukraine's internet is still working, apparently to quite some degree. Some of that (or maybe much of that) is because of (https://www.space.com/elon-musk-says-spacex-starlink-active-ukraine) Elon Musk's Starlink satellites. To disable those, Russia would have to deploy killer satellites to take them down — which it certainly possesses. Those have never been used in warfare, either.

4) The fourth uncharted territory possibility concerns advanced non-nuclear weapons that Russia very probably has (and has hinted at in the past) but has never revealed, and are classified. (Of course, the US and China have those as well.) If any of those are deployed — whatever they do, wherever they're based, and however they work! — then again we might find ourselves in a world of Sci-Fi warfare where not even the mainstream media can report on what's happening... because they won't understand it.

And here's a fifth, still thinking aloud. Again, I don't think this will happen, but it could. Doing my best to put myself in the shoes of the globalists/NWO/WEF. (Though they don't fit well, and hurt!)

5) A nuke incident in Ukraine, precipitated by the Russians (or, not impossibly, as a false flag). That might trigger the following — all to the benefit of the NWO agenda.


A global stock market crash.
Soaring oil prices.
A refugee crisis in Europe.
A new Russian alliance with China (already there, but now visible and public)
Cyberattacks against Russia, followed by retaliative cyberattacks on the US targeting finances and power infrastructure.
The 'Great Reset', as nothing like this must ever be permitted to happen again.

I'm not being Mike-Adams-ish about this. :) I do NOT think this will happen. But I do think it's part of our analysis here to conceive that something like this just might not be impossible.

A cartoon that some of you may have seen:

https://projectavalon.net/exit_covid.jpg

[TravelerJim]

My model on this becomes more simple daily watching how this unfolds.

The Davos/Chinese/Western Interests group works towards global control of all humans through many strategies, including using viruses and vaccines, and now they use the Ukraine operation after settting this all up in 2014 by creating a coup against an elected Ukrainian govt to go against Putin, who didn't want to play their game.

They try to knock Putin out by setting him up to where he had to act, or otherwise he would have been checkmated. Those Western interests also get a new news cycle away from all the truths coming our on the Covid operation, and they get a cover for inflation, which is a tool used to lower the standard of living for all western countries. They get this and much more.

Here a few articles relevant to what is going on:

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02/investigative-reports/technocracy-the-operating-system-for-the-new-international-rules-based-order-1/

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/26/stunning-discovery-evidence-suggests-u-s-intel-baited-russia-in-december-by-telling-china-ukraine-was-coming-into-nato/

https://truthout.org/articles/the-ukraine-mess-that-nuland-made/

I have talked to many folks I know and they all realize how serious this situation could get but they have ZERO idea of what is really going on, and if they actually could figure it out by that time the Control Group would be on to their next operation. The bad guys at this point are very bright indeed.

The Human Species only real chance of getting out of this is by calling on the "good ETs". Most of my efforts are now going in this direction.

[norman]

1) Earlier today Turkey announced its intention (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-implement-international-pact-access-shipping-straits-due-ukraine-war-2022-02-27/) to close off the Black Sea to Russian warships, something it's entitled to do via the Montreux Convention (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits). In a "time of war", Turkey is permitted to do that via international agreement. And Turkey has now made the judgment that this is war.

But (a) Putin is unlikely to take that lying down. He's likely to take some kind of action of his own. And (b), Turkey is a NATO country. I've not heard discussion of this yet, but this sounds like a very dangerous potential escalation point. If Russia attacks a NATO country militarily, then all bets are off.



A scenario for a false flag nuke IN TURKEY !?

Turkey is a big place and a location to place a nuke ( from the Kursk submarine, or anywhere, a Russian nuke would be ideal ). Erdogan need not even know about it.

They would need to build up a bit of news narrative to sell the resultant lie. Turkey closing the straight will do the trick for most sheeple.

Explode the nuke, blame Putin, rally NATO to support Turkey ( a NATO member ).

Off to the races, they hope. But, what if it turned into a chance to end NATO instead.

[mizo]

Not quite sure what the context of this odd Zelensky routine ( the last tweet) clip is or where it's from? - wondering if Biden, Johnson, Macron, Putin etc or any other 'elite' will be following suit and will do a dance off ala Footloose- Kevin Bacon style...
:blackwidow:

https://twitter.com/GokMedresesi/status/1498292025329860608

[Gwin Ru]

Are US Biolabs being targeted?

Here's a somewhat eye-watering piece of research, which may carry some weight.

IF this is what is transpiring then we may be on the verge of Plandemic 2.0.

Source: Thread by @ War Clandestine on ThreadReader App (archived) (https://archive.fo/kyR2q)

Whatever the case may be...

[...]... reminded me of something:


Ethnic-Specific Weapons: Leaked Documents Reveal US Diplomats in Georgia Trafficking Human Blood And Pathogens For Pentagon Biowarfare Laboratory (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104333-Ethnic-Specific-Weapons-Leaked-Documents-Reveal-US-Diplomats-in-Georgia-Trafficking-Human-Blood-And-Pathogens-For-Pentagon-Biowarfare-Laboratory)

[chrifri]

it seems that some parties really are pushing the escalation agenda


Ursula von der Leyen, European Commission President says "Ukraine is one of us and we want them in the European Union"

https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/27/ukraine-is-one-of-us-and-we-want-them-in-eu-ursula-von-der-leyen-tells-euronews

https://www.ninefornews.nl/ursula-von-der-leyen-zegt-dat-oekraine-bij-de-eu-mag-blijkbaar-wil-men-dit-escaleren/#

[take]

WOW I am once again suprised how well the russian propaganda is eaten up here. Wake the F up. Russia is killing innocent people and committing war crimes, and deserves every bit of the sanctions imposed, and then some. Anyone siding with Putin is saying it's ok to carpet bomb hospitals and civilians, attack another country, kill and rape women and children and so on. Get real. I don't want to be a part of a community who is siding with any of that. FCK PTN.

[avid]

https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-25th-february-2022
Awareness awareness awareness
Open your clouded eyes, so sorry, here's a great link to impartial news

[Tintin]

This appears to be a genuine incident, and disturbing to say the least:

Source: https://rumble.com/vvzxr5-ukrainian-army-beating-their-own-citizens-attmpting-to-flee-the-city.html

vtdrph

[mizo]

Cavalry backing up the troops...

https://twitter.com/Sean_Beano/status/1498270619670126594

[pyrangello]

US embassy just REMOVED all their Ukraine BIOWEAPON LAB DOCUMENTS from the website… Here they are…

https://strangesounds.org/2022/02/us-embassy-just-removed-all-their-ukraine-bioweapon-lab-documents-from-the-website-here-they-are.html

These labs are co-run by Fauci’s EcoHealth Alliance and rumor is Russia’s entire military operation right now is unofficially to either secure and/or destroy these labs and gather evidence.

So here's another slant on whats going on there, remember everything has a deflection screen to it , and who's involved in this , drum roll................... None over than the beagle slayer himself Frankenstein FAUCI, our new household word. Keeping you eye on the ball is getting more difficult isn't it? And just what the hell does Ukraine need 11 bioweapons labs for, why does any country need this?

Just watched the video above my post, things aren't always as them seem are they?

[Tyy1907]

WOW I am once again suprised how well the russian propaganda is eaten up here. Wake the F up. Russia is killing innocent people and committing war crimes, and deserves every bit of the sanctions imposed, and then some. Anyone siding with Putin is saying it's ok to carpet bomb hospitals and civilians, attack another country, kill and rape women and children and so on. Get real. I don't want to be a part of a community who is siding with any of that. FCK PTN.

Notice Schwab playing both sides, endorsing Putin as a WEF leader and then saying he doesn't agree with invading Ukraine.

But the pandemic is a good thing that brings about a global reset.

[BMJ]

Thanks for verbalizing that... perhaps Putin and the Russian Army are actually Draining the Swamp in Ukraine... something Trump wanted to do in America, but couldn't when it came to it because the Swamp (NWO Deep State) were too deeply embedded in the US...and they (Swamp) don't give an inch and double down at the first sign of trouble and become very ruthless and dangerous...

You might want to take a look at this article jaybee. POTUS Trump was cleaning house way back in 2017.

DUMBS - CLEANING OUT THE EVIL BELOW

U.S. ARMY IS SPENDING HALF A BILLION TO TRAIN SOLDIERS TO FIGHT UNDERGROUND

To get a perspective of the size and committment to this warfare " 26 of 31 active brigades " are training in this warfare.

What's it about? Cleaning out the deep state cult and saving the trafficked children.

Military.com
24 June 2018

Quote:
" Late last year (2017), the Army launched an accelerated effort that funnels some $572 million into training and equipping 26 of its 31 active combat brigades to fight in large-scale subterranean facilities that exist beneath dense urban areas around the world...
An assessment last year estimates that there are about 10,000 large-scale underground military facilities around the world that are intended to serve as subterranean cities, an Army source, who is not cleared to talk to the press, told Military.com. "

Link: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/24/army-spending-half-billion-train-troops-fight-underground.html?fbclid=IwAR104v4QFho-xVh5ERA8TNQZjI6ao0CxVQhZR1SJLiXAeIWSc3cm7ZRZ7Z0

Your post caught my eye after something I’ve noticed happen recently, near where I live.

I have an app that logs all air traffic including helicopters.

There is occasionally a lot of military flying over and other air traffic that’s really noisy and sparks an interest, so I keep a watch.

About a month ago it was one of those times the noise caught my attention and I tracked a military helicopter flying over.
It was showing as coming from Imjin Barracks in Gloucestershire, which is home to NATOs ARRC (Allied Rapid Reaction Corps) for high readiness.

It landed in a very rural field not far from where I live and stayed there for several hours.
I was a bit puzzled and it made no sense why they’d fly some 100 odd miles north and land in a remote field in the middle of nowhere, then flew back again.

Some days later after a conversation with a friend about it, it dawned on me there is entrances to a vast underground cave network spanning some several miles in every direction not far from where they landed.
It got me wondering was they on some type of training exercise as it’s the only viable reason I could come up with them being here.

Alarm bells are ringing if the troops heading out to this cave network where US Military or UK military or regular police I would say it is a positive thing. But NATO like WEF, WHO, UN basically any international global bureaucratic system works for the satanic cabal.

Having said that there is a global cleanout being spearheaded by the US military as indicated by the article and they have all intelligence on facilities and are cleaning them out.

[AuCo]

The plot thickens: "Switzerland's historic neutrality is no longer: moments ago Reuters reported that the Swiss government had joined the EU in adopting sanctions on Russia, freezing assets of targeted companies and people effective immediately". https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/historic-breach-neutrality-switzerland-joins-eu-sanctions-russia

[Tintin]

Are US Biolabs being targeted?

Here's a somewhat eye-watering piece of research, which may carry some weight.

IF this is what is transpiring then we may be on the verge of Plandemic 2.0.

Source: Thread by @ War Clandestine on ThreadReader App (archived) (https://archive.fo/kyR2q)

Whatever the case may be...

[...]... reminded me of something:


Ethnic-Specific Weapons: Leaked Documents Reveal US Diplomats in Georgia Trafficking Human Blood And Pathogens For Pentagon Biowarfare Laboratory (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?104333-Ethnic-Specific-Weapons-Leaked-Documents-Reveal-US-Diplomats-in-Georgia-Trafficking-Human-Blood-And-Pathogens-For-Pentagon-Biowarfare-Laboratory)


Yup, me too :highfive:

As I've speculated before, off the back of Dilyana's work, the Plandemic could have been started from multiple seedings in various geographic locations globally. That's the most likely scenario, in my view.

For those that haven't watched it yet see Diplomatic Viruses (https://avalonlibrary.net/Diplomatic_Viruses.mp4).

[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1498325679527677953?s=20&t=DaIYAolc1paBMsRWlqGhdQ

1498325679527677953




https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1498324982354616321?s=20&t=DaIYAolc1paBMsRWlqGhdQ


1498324982354616321

[Gwin Ru]

...

https://www.sott.net/image/s31/638484/full/map_ukraine.jpg
Approximate map outlining the front lines in Ukraine on 27/2/22. © @miladvisor/Twitter

[Gwin Ru]

[...]

Notice Schwab playing both sides, endorsing Putin as a WEF leader and then saying he doesn't agree with invading Ukraine.

But the pandemic is a good thing that brings about a global reset.... looks like "they" are gonna try to re-run "Putin as the savior of the world" program... now, with all those frozen accounts all over the place, maybe to keep Biden's ice (on the cake) cream from a meltdown? Everyone is flat broke but Russia, apparently.

[XelNaga]

WOW I am once again suprised how well the russian propaganda is eaten up here. Wake the F up. Russia is killing innocent people and committing war crimes, and deserves every bit of the sanctions imposed, and then some. Anyone siding with Putin is saying it's ok to carpet bomb hospitals and civilians, attack another country, kill and rape women and children and so on. Get real. I don't want to be a part of a community who is siding with any of that. FCK PTN.

Well, I guess farewell then :confused:





Mod note from Bill:
Yes, now retired as we assume was requested.
:flower:

[pyrangello]

So I sent my friend who has relatives in the Ukraine his perspective , after reading, is this outrageous and unacceptable for the people/citizens of the Ukraine ? Most indefinitely yes, they are the losers and have suffered enough either way, then there is the unknown of those corrupt pieces of cowdung that have had their hands in the cookie jar that none of us trust. Reading the following really helped me understand more why the good people of the Ukraine are making a stand. And validity to TAKES position as well.

IN THE 20 TH CENTURY UKRAINE WAS FORCIBLY TAKEN OVER, PLUNDERED, AND ENSLAVED UNDER THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST USSR BY FORCE, A FEW YEARS AFTER THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST REVOLUTION OF 1917. OVER 90 PERCENT OF UKRAINE'S ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN PRIESTS WERE EXECUTED AND THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION WAS BANNED AND SEVERELY PERSECUTED BY ATHEIST COMMUNIST RUSSIAN SECRET POLICE, THE NKVD, WHICH THEN BECAME KGB, AND TODAY ARE THE FSB. . .

UKRAINIANS ARE A SEPARATE ETHNIC CULTURAL, AND HISTORIC PEOPLE AND NOT RUSSIAN AND NOT RELATED TO RUSSIAN PEOPLE ETHNICALLY OR CULTURALLY. .

THE ORIGINAL UKRAINIAN NATION STATE BEFORE IT WAS CALLED UKRAINE DOES IN FACT HISTORICALLY PREDATE RUSSIA BY HUNDREDS OF YEARS., (KIEVAN-RUS). UKRAINE NEVER CONQUERED OR OPPRESSED ANY NATIONS, UNLIKE RUSSIA WHICH WAS AND STILL IS A PREDATOR, AND HAS SUBJUGATED ONE SEVENTH OF THE ENTIRE WORLD'S SURFACE , INCLUDING SIBERIA. . .

WHEN THE TSAR ROYAL FAMILY (ROMANOV DYNASTY) RULED RUSSIA THEY STOLE CRIMEA AND ALMOST OUTLAWED THE UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE. (CRIMEA --LOCATED IN SOUTHERN UKRAINE WAS TEMPORARILY GIVEN BACK AFTER WW 2, BUT INVADED AGAIN AND STOLEN BY PUTIN BY FORCE IN 2014, .AND OBAMA DID NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE, NO REAL SANCTIONS...

IN 1932-33 COMMUNIST DICTATOR JOSEPH STALIN IMPOSED BY FORCE AN ARTIFICIAL MAN MADE FAMINE TO FORCIBLY SURROUND-STARVE OUT UKRAINIANS WHO WOULD NOT GIVE UP THEIR FREE ENTERPRISE FAMILY OPERATED FARMS WHO (HAD OPERATED THESE FARMS FOR CENTURIES)--TO SOVIET COMMUNIST- COLLECTIVIZATION.

HISTORICALLY THIS IS THE HOLODOMOR, A GREAT HUNGER- GENOCIDE OF 1932-33. .

ESTIMATES RANGE FROM AS HIGH AS 7 MILLION TO AS HIGH AS 10 MILLION WERE KILLED. COMMUNIST ARE ATHEISTS AND PERSECUTE CHRISTIANITY. UKRAINAINS ARE DEVOUT HISTORICAL CHRISTIANS AND STILL ARE. FROM THE PERIOD OF THE ROYAL TSAR FAMILIES WHO PLUNDERED, DESTROYED, AND ROBBED UKRAINE FOR ALL THEY COULD GET, NOT MUCH CHANGED WHEN THE COMMUNISTS TOOK OVER AND ENSLAVED UKRAINE -UNTIL 1991 WHEN UKRAINE DECLARED INDEPENDENCE AT THE POINT OF THE FALL OF SOVIET UNION-THE IRON CURTAIN.

OTHER FORMER "CAPTIVE NATIONS" FOLLOWED SUIT AND THE USSR DISSOLVED, AT WHICH POINT THE NEWS MEDIA STARTED PERPETUATING THE MESSAGE THAT THE COLD WAR WAS OVER---HARDLY NOT....

THEREFORE, AFTER 1991 UKRAINE--NEWLY AN INDEPENDENT NATION, WAS THEN THE THIRD MOST POWERFUL NATION ON EARTH BECAUSE A LARGE PORTION OF USSR-(RUSSIA'S) NUCLEAR ARSENAL WAS LEFT IN ICBM SILOS, MOBILE LAUNCHERS, BLACK SEA NAVAL ASSETS, ALONG WITH MUCH CONVENTIONAL ARMAMENT-RESOURCES REMAINING ON UKRAINIAN SOIL AND TERRITORIAL WATERS. .

THE BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT WAS A DOCUMENT WHICH WAS FORMULATED DURING BILL CLINTON'S ERA THAT PROVIDED PROTECTION GUARANTEES TO PROTECT THE SOVEREIGN LAND AND TERRITORY OF UKRAINE BY THE USA, ENGLAND AND RUSSIA, YES RUSSIA, --HOW IRONIC.

THIS BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM AGREEMENT DOCUMENT GUARANTEED TO PROTECT UKRAINE';S SOVEREIGNTY---*IF THEY GAVE UP THE ACTIVE NUKES AND LARGE WEAPONS SYSTEMS REMAINING ON THEIR SOIL FROM THE SOVIET UNION--WHO ENSLAVED UKRAINE AS A CAPTIVE NATION FOR OVER 70 YEARS UNDER A COMMUNIST POLICE STATE. .

UKRAINE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT TRUSTING IN THE DOCUMENT SIGNED BY USA, ENGLAND, AND IRONICALLY RUSSIA. THE NUKES AND MUCH, MUCH, CONVENTIONAL STORES OF COLD WAR ERA WEAPONS-- WERE REMOVED FROM UKRAINIAN SOIL ,AND MONITORED AND DISMANTLED TO ENSURE WORLD PEACE ????

UKRAINE HAS BEEN INFILTRATED SINCE 1991 BY MOSCOW'S MANIPULATION OF THE THE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC, AND POLITICAL -GOVERNMENT LEVELS IN ATTEMPTS TO RETAKE CONTROL OF UKRAINE BY RUSSIA--GRADUALLY AND INCREMENTALLY.

PUTIN IS TIED TO THE POISONING ATTACK OF UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT VICTOR YUSCHENKO WHOSE FOOD WAS POISONED IN 2004.

SINCE THE PERIOD OF 2004-2022 THERE HAS CLEARLY BEEN A PERIOD OF BETRAYAL OF THE INTERNATIONAL BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM DOCUMENT FOR UKRAINE'S SOVEREIGN PROTECTION , AND A GRADUAL EROSION OF UKRAINIAN SOVEREIGNTY.

TODAY WE SEE THE BEGINNINGS OF WHAT IS A REPEAT OF HISTORICAL ENSLAVEMENT, OPPRESSION, AND LOSS OF FREEDOM AT THE HANDS OF THE RUSSIANS --ALL OVER AGAIN. UKRAINAIANS ARE NOT ETHNIC RUSSIANS, CONTRARY TO PUTIN'S LIES AND ABUSE, BUT TO THE CONTRARY UKRAINIANS ARE PATRIOTS, HISTORICALLY CHRISTIAN AND WANT FREE ENTERPRISE, DEMOCRACY, AND TIES TO THE WESTERN NATIONS, AND CHOOSE TO BE INDEPENDENT OF RUSSIAN ENSLAVEMENT AND HISTORICAL ABUSE.

THE BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM DOCUMENT HAS BEEN VIOLATED , NULLIFIED AND VOIDED.....

[mountain_jim]

She should talk

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1498339381169557507?s=20&t=SeeysInB1dkeF_DpyWJhEA

1498339381169557507


https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html



Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

By Jo Becker and Mike McIntire
April 23, 2015
The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”

The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.

At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show.

< more at link >




https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1498312169011691524?s=20&t=9SUDboqn_WpNDFrTqsutpA

1498312169011691524



https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1498361133320785925?s=20&t=9SUDboqn_WpNDFrTqsutpA

1498361133320785925

[ExomatrixTV]

'Question All Of It (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/question-all-it-current-western-propaganda-ukraine-epic-scale)' - The Current Western Propaganda For Ukraine Is Epic In Scale



Article (https://www.ninefornews.nl/zet-overal-vraagtekens-bij-westerse-propaganda-voor-oekraine-van-epische-omvang/) (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

[mizo]

Roll Up! Their Country Needs YOU!

Crikey ! Watch out for these volunteering tough guys they look quite formidable!
The last chap a 60 y.o. would- be recruit not sure if he's playing incognito or afraid of catching something...

https://twitter.com/hugotalks1/status/1498338116180004877

[ExomatrixTV]

Ukranian MP Says They're Fighting For The "New World Order (https://rumble.com/vw3c81-ukranian-mp-says-theyre-fighting-for-the-new-world-order-sparking-theories-.html)" Sparking Theories About The Great Reset (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?111148-The-Great-Reset)

https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/H/c/O/n/HcOnd.gaa.mp4


source (https://rumble.com/vw3c81-ukranian-mp-says-theyre-fighting-for-the-new-world-order-sparking-theories-.html)

[AuCo]

This Russian-Ukraine War reminds me of the Vietnam-Cambodia War

Apr 1977 – Cambodia, pulled by China launched an attack on Vietnam southwestern border.
Late 1977- Jan 1978 – Vietnam launched a counter offensive against the Khmer Rouge but failed to come to terms with them.
Dec 1978 – no longer tolerate Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge’s continual ethnic cleansing of Vietnamese living in Cambodia, Vietnam launched a full scale attack with 150K troops.
Jan 1979 – Vietnam installed Hun Sen, a pro-Vietnam government that began the 10-year occupation. All along, the UN still recognized the Khmer Rouge (the Killing Field) as the legitimate government. They continued to get training in Thailand with Margaret Thatcher’s support.
Sept 1989 – Vietnam withdrew as the Soviet Union was failing and its support waning.
Today – Hun Sen has turned pro-China.

Many a time, history repeats :(

[Spiral]

WOW I am once again suprised how well the russian propaganda is eaten up here. Wake the F up. Russia is killing innocent people and committing war crimes, and deserves every bit of the sanctions imposed, and then some. Anyone siding with Putin is saying it's ok to carpet bomb hospitals and civilians, attack another country, kill and rape women and children and so on. Get real. I don't want to be a part of a community who is siding with any of that. FCK PTN.

Good grief, what a load of crock, go back to the start of this thread & read it.

Carpet bombing ? they haven't even had aircraft up before today .

It sounds like you have been reading war propaganda from 1914 ! Surprised you didn't include bayoneting babies lol.

Do you think the nazis in Ukraine are a myth Putin has made up ? https://web.archive.org/web/20150627201809im_/http://www.ukrainewar.info/the-nazis-even-hitler-was-afraid-of/


Do you not know they have been trying to "ethnic cleanse" Ukraine of Russian speakers & have murdered over 13000 people over the past 7 or 8 years, aided & abetted by your government & mine ?

[Spiral]

Roll Up! Their Country Needs YOU!

Crikey ! Watch out for these volunteering tough guys they look quite formidable!
The last chap a 60 y.o. would- be recruit not sure if he's playing incognito or afraid of catching something...

https://twitter.com/hugotalks1/status/1498338116180004877

I can't imaging how someone so scared of a virus is going to stand up to the likes of the Chechen Militia :facepalm::sarcastic:

[pyrangello]

Chechen Militia is pretty seasoned, they sure aren't going there to cook a pancake breakfast for everyone. This whole thing sucks!

[Vicus]

REVISITED


For people that not yet understand what is going on... :sherlock:

I posted this in a Thread that was no much welcome...maybe are indoctrinations guilty...


For Russian phobia people everything is in vain... :facepalm:


this article may explain why the "west" know nothing but escalation...


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?117876-Behind-NATO--s-cognitive-warfare.-Battle-for-your-brain-waged-by-Western-militaries&p=1483350&viewfull=1#post1483350

[pyrangello]

President Biden could have potentially averted the invasion by simply promising that Ukraine would never be admitted to NATO.
"They Actually Want Russia To Invade" - Beijing Slams Biden For Allegedly Provoking Putin

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/they-actually-want-russia-invade-ccp-spox-slams-biden-provoking-putin

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ExomatrixTV]

Russia & Ukraine Conflict: My Thoughts & Challenge Me If You Disagree! Will Be Reading Your Points:

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[mountain_jim]

https://www.revolver.news/2022/02/obama-was-right-no-gae-war-with-russia/

https://www.revolver.news/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2022.02.25-02.32-revolvernews-62183fb761b89.jpg

(more links and tweets at link - text here)



Forwarded from
KanekoaTheGreat
The Truth About the Ukraine

Way back in 2016, President Obama said Ukraine is simply not a core American interest that is worth killing and dying over.

And the American people understand this.

According to the AP, just 26% of Americans say the U.S. should play a major role in the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Thanks to the stubbornness, arrogance, and incompetence of America’s discredited foreign policy “elite,” yet another entirely avoidable conflict has gone hot.

A diplomatic solution with Russia might have involved something as simple as demilitarization in the Ukraine and a signed treaty promising Ukraine would never join NATO.

The Globalist American Empire and its European client states still have yet to sanction Russia’s critical oil and gas industries, lest Germany face a massive energy crisis, and energy prices go through the roof worldwide, which in and of itself could topple the Democrats in 2022 and the Biden regime in 2024.

In a 2015 lecture, John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago, described how NATO’s relentless expansion east, support for regime change in Ukraine via color revolution, and repeated decision to double down against Russian opposition had created an unnecessary Ukraine crisis.

Belligerent neocons and neoliberals of American foreign policy have always been wrong.

Again and again, interventionism has led America into avoidable and humiliating catastrophes.

It led to disaster in Vietnam, embarrassment in Iraq, and total national humiliation in Afghanistan.

The War Party destroyed Syria and Libya as stable countries and turned them into hotbeds of chaos and terrorism, in return for absolutely nothing.

Interventionists claim that America must fight to demonstrate its strength, yet nothing has depleted America’s strength more than the trillions of dollars wasted on wars that go nowhere.

If America wants its role in the 21st century to stay on par with its role in the 20th, it cannot afford another Iraq-style error. And that means embracing competent realism rather than the unholy neoconservative/neoliberal alliance that has set US foreign policy for thirty years now.

In other words, put America First.

Back in 2003, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney masterminded a war in Iraq that Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden both voted for.

The war was a total disaster, based on false premises, yet because American elites never face consequences for failure, nothing happened.

Come 2011, when Libya became unstable, Hillary Clinton egged on the war, and then luxuriated in the slaughter that followed.

In 2014, this same unholy alliance cheered on a color revolution in Ukraine that predictably led Ukraine down a primrose path of destruction.

Now, eight years into a disaster they created, these interventionists again want to set US policy, and they again want a position of maximum aggression that will prove useless for the people of Ukraine and suicidally self-destructive to the people of America.

The American foreign policy elite is useless, depraved, and discredited.

They deserve no power and no influence whatsoever.

Ignore everything they say on Ukraine and support the right policy of putting America First.

https://www.revolver.news/2022/02/obama-was-right-no-gae-war-with-russia/

@KanekoaTheGreat

[mountain_jim]

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/ukraines-deadly-gamble

(more at link)



Forwarded from
KanekoaTheGreat
Ukraine’s Deadly Gamble | Lee Smith

Russian President Vladimir Putin chose this war, Joe Biden said in his Thursday afternoon speech to America regarding the conflict in Ukraine. That is true, but U.S. elites also had something to do with Putin’s ugly and destructive choice—a role that Democrats and Republicans are eager to paper over with noble-sounding rhetoric about the bravery of Ukraine’s badly outgunned military. Yes, the Ukrainian soldiers standing up to Putin are very brave, but it was Americans that put them in harm’s way by using their country as a weapon, first against Russia and then against each other, with little consideration for the Ukrainian people who are now paying the price for America’s folly.

It is not an expression of support for Putin’s grotesque actions to try to understand why it seemed worthwhile for him to risk hundreds of billions of dollars, the lives of thousands of servicemen, and the possible stability of his own regime in order to invade his neighbor. After all, Putin’s reputation until this moment has always been as a shrewd ex-KGB man who eschewed high-risk gambles in favor of sure things backed by the United States, like entering Syria and then escalating forces there. So why has he adopted exactly the opposite strategy here, and chosen the road of open high-risk confrontation with the American superpower?

Yes, Putin wants to prevent NATO from expanding to Russia’s border. But the larger answer is that he finds the U.S. government’s relationship with Ukraine genuinely threatening.

That’s because for nearly two decades, the U.S. national security establishment under both Democratic and Republican administrations has used Ukraine as an instrument to destabilize Russia, and specifically to target Putin.

Why can’t the American security establishment shoulder responsibility for its role in the tragedy unfolding in Ukraine?

Because to discuss American responsibility openly would mean exposing the national security establishment’s role in two separate, destructive coups.

This is a game that Biden and key figures in his administration have been playing for a long time, beginning with the 2013-14 Obama administration-backed coup that toppled a Russia-friendly government in Kyiv.

The Obama administration helped organize street demonstrations for what became history’s most tech-savvy and PR-driven regime change operation, marketed to the global public variously as Maidan.

In February 2014, the protests forced Yanukovych into exile in Moscow. Consequently, Obama administration officials worked to assemble a new Ukrainian government friendly to the United States and therefore hostile to Russia.

In late February, the Russians responded to the American soft coup in Ukraine by invading Crimea and eventually annexing it and creating chaos in Eastern Ukraine.

In 2016, the Hillary Clinton campaign came calling on Ukrainian officials and activists to lend some Slavic authenticity to its Russia collusion narrative targeting Donald Trump.

With the CIA’s Brennan and a host of senior FBI and DOJ officials pushing Russiagate into the press—and running an illegal espionage campaign against the Trump team—Ukrainian political figures gladly joined in.

Key participants included Kyiv’s ambassador to Washington, who wrote a Trump-Russia piece for the U.S. press, and a member of the Ukrainian parliament who allegedly contributed to the dossier.

Russiagate was the kind of vanity project that a buffer state with a plunging GDP and an army equipped with 40-year-old ex-Soviet weapons in a notoriously risky area of the world can ill afford—especially one that lacked a nuclear arsenal.

In July 2019, U.S. national security officials injected yet another Ukraine-related narrative into the public sphere to target the American president.

This one appears to have been initiated by Ukrainian American White House official Alexander Vindman and his colleague Eric Ciaramella, a CIA analyst who had served as Vice President Biden’s point man on Ukraine.

When Vindman told Ciaramella about a phone call in which Trump had asked the Ukrainian president for information regarding allegations about the Biden family’s corrupt activities in Kyiv, they called on help from U.S. intelligence services, the State Department, the Pentagon, Democratic Party officials, and the press.

In order to cover up for what the Bidens and perhaps other senior Obama officials had done in Ukraine, a Democratic Congress impeached Trump for trying to figure out what American policymakers had been doing in Ukraine over the past decade.

The end result was that the Ukrainians had helped weaken an American president who, unlike Obama, gave them arms to defend themselves against the Russians.

More seriously, they reinforced Putin’s view that, especially in partnership with the Democrats, Ukraine did not understand its true place in the world as a buffer state—and would continue to allow themselves to be used as an instrument by policymakers whose combination of narcissism and fecklessness made them particularly prone to dangerous miscalculations.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/ukraines-deadly-gamble

[ExomatrixTV]

The Russian "War":

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[mountain_jim]

https://twitter.com/ManilaChan/status/1496942434063986697?s=20&t=Xim_lM6zKvHBkL13nRbLUw

1496942434063986697

[jaybee]

Roll Up! Their Country Needs YOU!

Crikey ! Watch out for these volunteering tough guys they look quite formidable!
The last chap a 60 y.o. would- be recruit not sure if he's playing incognito or afraid of catching something...

https://twitter.com/hugotalks1/status/1498338116180004877

I can't imaging how someone so scared of a virus is going to stand up to the likes of the Chechen Militia :facepalm::sarcastic:


And I have a feeling the guy dressed in white will be going into an Islamic State division of the Mercenary army in Ukraine - this is going to get very messy on the ground and god help the people of Ukraine who just want to live their lives in peace... the more mercenaries and weapons that are poured into the country the longer all this will last and the more confused it will get - and perhaps that's exactly what the Globalists want - ??

[Merkaba360]

The Russian "War":

xorW_C1kS4Q

War - "a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state."

Sure is an armed conflict. Dude thinks war means that they have to invade and kill everybody? lol Its not the old days where they go in and burn down whole villages to wipe out a people. sheesh. Obviously, image is very important these days with the internet and cameras everywhere.

Im sure there are psycho soldiers getting away with some unneccesary and horrible acts. Cuz obviously some murderous psychos join the military just to have a license to be a monster.

It makes sense why Putin can't allow a democracy at this time. He knows that people will sell out and they get infiltrated and absorbed into the rest. It really is one of the most important questions that would help us make sense of it all. Is Putin independent and not bending to the cabal. Or is it just theatre where he plays the villain. I can't tell. Somehow I feel like at the top of the pyramid there is only one hidden hand controlling to some degree ALL of these countries. That the highest level needs to stay in the shadows. Yet, on the mid level, there is real dispute and fighting.

[Merkaba360]

How about the death toll? It seems that each side is throwing out different numbers. Not surprising.

I'm seeing russia = 3000-4000 deaths or something. And Ukraine in the 100s ? That seems pretty far fetched. Is russia still sending in 10 guys with 1 gun or something? lol

Anyone know of some reliable numbers? Or just impossible to get anything close to the truth now since each side wants to paint a picture.

[kfm27917]

When the Bush Administration announced in 2008 that Ukraine and Georgia would be eligible for NATO membership, I knew it was a terrible idea. Nearly two decades after the end of both the Warsaw Pact and the Cold War, expanding NATO made no sense. NATO itself made no sense.



Explaining my “no” vote on a bill to endorse the expansion, I said at the time:

NATO is an organization whose purpose ended with the end of its Warsaw Pact adversary… This current round of NATO expansion is a political reward to governments in Georgia and Ukraine that came to power as a result of US-supported revolutions, the so-called Orange Revolution and Rose Revolution.

Providing US military guarantees to Ukraine and Georgia can only further strain our military. This NATO expansion may well involve the US military in conflicts unrelated to our national interest…
Unfortunately, as we have seen this past week, my fears have come true. One does not need to approve of Russia’s military actions to analyze its stated motivation: NATO membership for Ukraine was a red line it was not willing to see crossed. As we find ourselves at risk of a terrible escalation, we should remind ourselves that it didn’t have to happen this way. There was no advantage to the United States to expand and threaten to expand NATO to Russia’s doorstep. There is no way to argue that we are any safer for it.

NATO itself was a huge mistake.

When in 1949 the US Senate initially voted on the NATO treaty, Sen. Roberg Taft – known as “Mr. Republican” – gave an excellent speech on why he voted against creating NATO.

Explaining his “no” vote, Taft said:

… the treaty is a part of a much larger program by which we arm all these nations against Russia… A joint military program has already been made… It thus becomes an offensive and defensive military alliance against Russia. I believe our foreign policy should be aimed primarily at security and peace, and I believe such an alliance is more likely to produce war than peace.
Taft continued:

If we undertake to arm all the nations around Russia…and Russia sees itself ringed about gradually by so-called defensive arms from Norway and Denmark to Turkey and Greece, it may form a different opinion. It may decide that the arming of western Europe, regardless of its present purpose, looks to an attack upon Russia. Its view may be unreasonable, and I think it is. But from the Russian standpoint it may not seem unreasonable. They may well decide that if war is the certain result, that war might better occur now rather than after the arming of Europe is completed…
How right he was.

NATO went off the rails long before 2008, however. The North Atlantic Treaty was signed on April 4, 1949 and by the start of the Korean War just over a year later, NATO was very much involved in the military operation of the war in Asia, not Europe!

NATO's purpose was stated to "guarantee the safety and freedom of its members by political and military means." It is a job not well done!

I believe as strongly today as I did back in my 2008 House Floor speech that, “NATO should be disbanded, not expanded.” In the meantime, expansion should be off the table. The risks do not outweigh the benefits!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ron-paul-it-all-comes-down-nato

[ExomatrixTV]

Debunking Ukraine War Lies & Propaganda! SNL’s Hypocritical Ukraine Tribute! W/ Aaron Maté:

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[ExomatrixTV]

Ukraine-Russia Conflict Intensifies:

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[Bill Ryan]

More from J.R. Nyquist, published today:


https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/02/28/russia-consolidates-hold-on-ukraine-readies-nuclear-rockets

Russia Consolidates Hold on Ukraine, Readies Nuclear Rockets

Six weeks after he became Russia’s defense minister, General Pavel Grachev addressed a June 1992 NATO meeting in Brussels where he defined Russia’s sphere of interest as encompassing all ‘former USSR republics with which it shared territorial borders,’ and claimed that Russia ‘had every right to intervene’ in those territories unilaterally. Subsequently, Russia deployed troops throughout the Caucasus, ‘signed base treaties with Armenia and Georgia’ and ‘posted border troops along much of the former Soviet perimeter.'”
— Lawrence Kohn, “Russia’s Turkish Target”
Russia is bringing her Strategic Rocket Forces up to full readiness. Russia is going to be conscripting doctors in the weeks ahead. Russia has prepared for mass burials in anticipation of a catastrophic number of casualties. What is going on here?

Amid all this we have Western observers suggesting Putin has failed. One analyst, citing a TASS source, wrote, “Russian President Putin is extremely disappointed with the progress of the military operation in Ukraine.”

Perhaps this disappointment arises from the fact that Putin once bragged he could take Kiev and five NATO capitals in 48 hours. (See Moscow troops could be in five NATO capitals in two days, boasts Putin: Leader boasted to Ukrainian president about Russian power | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2761195/Moscow-troops-five-NATO-capitals-two-days-boasts-Putin-Leader-boasted-Ukrainian-president-Russian-power.html).) Well, even dictators cannot be right about everything. And besides, the weather has not been altogether favorable for the invaders.

Yet a brief commentary is in order. Is Putin really disappointed? Are we to believe sources at TASS? — that ever honest and reliable source of news and information? Of course, the West is eager to depict Putin as desperate. And why not encourage them? I would.

After all, the same cadre who now declare the invasion a failure, the same who wanted to play “the Russia card” against China, the same who said there would be no invasion, have not really changed their overall view. Always, Russia is backward and stupid, and the threat can be minimized. It’s like a disease of the mind that afflicts Americans. It is the conceit of invulnerability, a conceit I am very familiar with. It is an unstudied and militantly unthoughtful conceit.

In moments such as these, as one reader said, we usually miss the forest for the trees. There is a larger strategic context for Moscow’s present moves. Does anyone remember it? Or did anyone notice? We saw an unfortunate article published by the Center for Security Policy, written by Putin’s former advisor, Andrei Illarionov.

The article was published on February 15 and under the title, “There won’t be a big war anytime soon.” (https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/there-wont-be-a-big-war-anytime-soon/) According to Illarionov the Russian forces were inadequate for an invasion and the buildup of troops was “a psychological operation.” How could Illarionov have been so wrong? Because his analysis missed the full context of that buildup.

So let us present that context: —


A viral pandemic was unleashed two years ago by Russia’a ally, China;
Communist riots took place in American cities in which statues of George Washington, U.S. Grant and Teddy Roosevelt were pulled down;
Then came an unprecedented election involving accusations of systematic fraud;
The establishment in America of a government of the radical left under the senile façade of Joe Biden;
Followed by divisive vaccine mandates, the fiasco of the health system (and the biowar defense establishment).

To put this another way, we are governed by a Western elite visibly advancing toward left wing authoritarianism and the censorship of free speech, etc. And so, out of Russia, an invasion takes place to roll back the fall of the Soviet Union. Go back and listen to Putin’s rambling speech on Monday.

The breakup of the union, he said, was illegal. And so, I submit that Putin is entirely in step with his Western partners. Yet they are denouncing him. And they will play off Putin’s aggression just as they played off COVID. That is the context of the Ukraine invasion.

Now let us broaden that context by looking at who Putin’s allies are. North Korea, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Vietnam, etc. These are all communist countries. Furthermore, I submit that war has always been on Putin’s mind even as it has been on the lips of his communist friends. Strategic surprise is achieved by indirection, by getting your opponent to misunderstand your objectives and methods. Our pundits have gotten Putin wrong, again and again, because they refuse to see who he is.

Putin has been working to make his economy sanction-proof for a long time. We now know that China has stockpiled an enormous amount of grain. What does that tell us? It means they have been getting ready for war. It means they have been preparing for a long, long time.

The question we do not want to ask is: What have these erstwhile communist powers been up to? What have their socialist friends in the West been doing? The facts suggest that everything here is connected. This military move in Ukraine is not an outlier. It is not a misstep. It is a building block for something else.

Putin has been on this path from the beginning. This invasion is not a stand-alone-event. And our own government may be led by people who have been closer to Putin than we realize — all the while pointing a finger of misdirection at Donald Trump.

Having a corrupt, perhaps treacherous, American strategic leadership may be the final contextual tidbit we have been missing. And so, the biggest play of all may be around the corner. But who sees around corners anymore? At each step we are always blindsided.

Here is the interview I did with Cliff Kincaid on Friday. Some of the information is outdated.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkSmpQpJfMQ

[kfm27917]

update on situation dated Feb 28, 2022 @ 13:33 as per debka.com (Israeli website)

https://debka.com/russian-5km-long-column-advances-on-kyiv-zelensky-doesnt-expect-much-from-talks-with-russia

Satellite images showed a 5-km long column moving towards Kyiv on Monday, Feb. 28 with thousands of infantry troops, tanks, self-propelled artillery, and fuel and logistical trucks, still 50km northwest of its target. In the city, weapons were being handed out to people to defend the city.

President Volodymyr Zelensky said he has little hope that the peace talks with Russia beginning on the Border with Belarus will resolve the conflict. With the massive Russian force on the move, Zelensky and Western intelligence watchers said Monday morning that the coming 24 hours would be “crucial” to the conflict. On Sunday, President Vladimir Putin ordered Russian nuclear forces to go on combat readiness in response to Western sanctions and “aggression.”

DEBKAfile sketches the situation on the different fronts of the Ukraine war:

1. The Russians paused their first attempt to take Kyiv after invading Ukraine last Thursday to await fresh supplies and fuel and meanwhile assemble a massive convoy for the operation.

2. West intelligence analysts don’t rate the chances of the far inferior Ukraine army sustaining its resistance for long.

3. After entering Ukraine’s second city of Kharkiv on Sunday, Russian troops pulled back during the day, there, too, to await heavy weapons reinforcements before going after an all-out offensive to seize the city.

4. In the southeast, the Russian army Sunday night mounted an offensive on Zabrozhia on the Dnieper, while continuing its assault to take Mariupol on the Azov Sea.

5. Ukrainian forces repelled the Russian attack on the southern city of Kherson.

6. Military analysts evaluate the Russian generals’ objective as being to link the Russian forces occupying Zabrozhia and Mariupol for blockading Ukrainian army positions in the north and the west.

7. Large Russian reserve contingents are on standby in neighboring Belarus and estimated ready to push into Ukraine from the north and the east.

Hopes for a successful peace conference on Monday faded when Moscow, ahead of its first round of negotiations with Ukraine, slapped down a demand to discuss a comprehensive accord, while Kyiv insisted first on a ceasefire and the withdrawal of the Russian invasion force.

On the battlefield meanwhile, our military analysts note that neither the Russians nor the Ukrainians are offering a clear picture of the state of play. Reports emanating from Western capitals depict the Russian army as having been forced to halt its advance by shortages of fuel and food for the soldiers. This overstates the case, much like the claim that the Russian army was totally halted in its tracks by bold Ukrainian resistance.

What is really happening, it seems, is that Russian tacticians are now prioritizing operations for cutting off and blockading Ukrainian units before major operations to capture of the country’s main cities. They are intent now on weakening resistance to their advance and counting on Ukrainian forces to buckle before long against a hugely superior military force and resign themselves to guerilla operations.

[ExomatrixTV]

Are Snake Island Ukrainians Actually ALIVE?! Ukrainian Government Page Challenges Media Narrative:

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[norman]

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1498324982354616321?s=20&t=DaIYAolc1paBMsRWlqGhdQ


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Greek in Mariupol: “The fascist Ukrainians are killing us, they don’t let us leave the city”

https://greekcitytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/7.jpg

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/03/01/greek-in-mariupol-fascist-ukrainian/?amp

When asked by SKAI news if he planned to leave the city, Kiouranas responded “how can I leave? When you try to leave the Ukrainian fascists, the Azov Battalion, will stop you and kill you.”

[DaveToo]

Are we being provided daily Death and Casualty numbers, like the daily Covid tallies?
I don't know because I don't follow the MSM.

Oh, and are they providing 'Died with Covid' and 'Died of Covid' numbers for those who have died in the fighting?
I'm assuming that all who die are being tested for Covid as is standard practice now.

[ExomatrixTV]

1497304927772680194
source (https://twitter.com/guitarguymen/status/1497304927772680194)

[shaberon]

Isn't the best way to prevent World War Three by keeping Ukraine out of NATO?


Isn't the road to peace mainly in dismantling NATO? Those lunkheads forgot a signed accord not to cross the Elbe in 1991. Russia forgets nothing. We have new lies every year.

This has the worst fog ever. I was able to get better details from Yemen. Multiple DDoS and hacks to Russian news; Fort Russ won't show me anything.

In this case, I am not sure western sources even approach the truth. Didn't France just seize a boatload of passenger cars? Piracy, much?

This comes around the second international conference of "world without America". Of course they knew sanctions would happen. It is just going to cement better relations between Russia, India, and China, and when these last two quit saber-rattling over a few miles of desert, you will get a "new world order" formed from the sucked out remains of what was the west. But from what I know, that is the operation of British MI6 ever since the U. S. refused to go back on the Pound, so to speak.

Ukranian right wing is much like the U. S. backed "moderate rebels" in Syria: conscript others by force, shoot them if they try to escape. The only real difference is they want you to be eighteen, not eight.

I don't think the "wider conflict" will come from this, but, there are some harsh ultimatums that will have to be dealt with. Request at the first round of talks? Unconditional surrender. There is not much option other than to witness the removal of the "Ukranian goverment" and "nationalist militants", whatever the cost may be. Yes, that is to flip Churchill's remark into an offensive manner, in order to "defend the island" of the world's largest landmass.

I am not sure that WWIII is even physically possible, since it is no longer feasible to project a D-Day scale invasion wherever you want. We would mostly just get choices of what type of missile to be fried by. "Everlasting global conflict in isolated pockets" is perhaps what we are going to live with for a long time. The U. S. wants to cover it like a lead blanket, but, Russia is perhaps better at whack-a-mole, doing this in Venezuela and that in the Arctic Ocean and you don't know what's coming next.

You knew this Ukraine thing was a matter of time, in fact, it was maybe nice of them to wait ten years or so after seeing things go out of control there.

[shaberon]

I'm assuming that all who die are being tested for Covid as is standard practice now.


On the contrary, the hundreds of thousands who are flooding Europe are allowed in without testing. Not sure about the military side of it. Right now it won't be many gangsters or extremists since men 18-60 are pulled off the trains.

I actually did browse MSM for a few minutes. It made me want to become a vulture and projectile vomit sticky goo all over their windshield. The actual tone of British propaganda makes me want to forget the English language. Not to mention the obvious exposure of everything in terms of the World Economic Forum and so on.

There is only so much we can verify for ourselves. For instance, in satellite photos of some of the damage, one can see that Russian forces annihilated fuel and ammo depots, but did not touch the runways at all. In other words, they are trying to "take", not "destroy". If it was anything about pure holocaust destruction, they do not need nukes, they have conventional thermobarics that leave pretty much nothing remaining for twenty miles or so.

[Ravenlocke]

I don’t know if the following three articles have anything to do with what’s happening in Ukraine now but here they are and please mods if inappropriate please delete them.

NATO-backed Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko poses with pro-Nazi soldier.
DECEMBER 10, 2018

“In a follow-up tweet, Poroshenko also wrote “Slava Ukrayini!” This is a Ukrainian nationalist slogan that was created in the 1920s by fascists who later became Nazi collaborators. In August, Ukraine made this fascist salute into the official greeting of its military. It was later also adopted by Ukrainian police.

This is not the first controversy linking Poroshenko to a Nazi symbol. In July, one of his advisers wrote on Facebook the neo-Nazi symbol “1488,” which combines the white supremacist “14 words” with code for “Heil Hitler.”

The Grayzone Project has previously reported on how the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion was incorporated directly into Ukraine’s National Guard, and how the United States has armed and advised these fascists.

In late November, Poroshenko’s government declared martial law, after a questionable skirmish with Russian military. This decree gives the government the authority to curtail elections, expression, movement, meetings, and strikes.

Following the incident, Poroshenko requested a major NATO military presence in the Black Sea, along with more weapons and an expansion of sanctions against Russia. The billionaire chocolate oligarch turned president has previously taken steps for Ukraine to join NATO.

The Grayzone Project also recently reported on how US-funded fascists in Ukraine have trained American white supremacists.

In October, an activist from the violent Ukrainian neo-Nazi gang C14, who collaborated with Kiev police to “purge” citizens from the Roma ethnic minority, spoke at the US government-funded America House Kyiv.”

https://thegrayzone.com/2018/12/10/nato-ukraine-president-poroshenko-nazi-soldier-totenkopf/

Influential DC-based Ukrainian think tank hosts neo-Nazi activist convicted for racist violence
JULY 20, 2020
https://thegrayzone.com/2020/07/20/ukrainian-think-tank-neo-nazi-racist-violence/

https://thegrayzone.com/2018/04/07/the-us-is-arming-and-assisting-neo-nazis-in-ukraine-while-congress-debates-prohibition/
Known as a bastion of neo-Nazism, Ukraine’s Azov Battalion has received teams of American military advisors and high powered US-made weapons.

Last November, an American military inspection team visited the Azov Battalion on the front lines of the Ukrainian civil war to discuss logistics and deepening cooperation. Images of the encounter showed American army officers poring over maps with their Ukrainian counterparts, palling around and ignoring the Nazi-inspired Wolfangel patches emblazoned on their sleeves.

Azov is a militia that has been incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard, and is considered one of the most effective units in the field against pro-Russian separatists. But it also widely known as a bastion of neo-Nazism within the ranks of the Ukrainian military that has been criticized by international human rights groups, tied to an international fascist network and even a major terror plot.

According to Lower Class Magazine, a leftist German publication, Azov maintains a semi-underground outfit called the “Misanthropic Division” that recruits heavily among the ranks of neo-Nazi youth in France, Germany and Scandinavia. Foreign fighters are promised training with heavy weapons, including tanks, at Ukrainian camps filled with fascist fellow travelers. They even include military veterans like Mikael Skillit, a Swedish former army sniper turned neo-Nazi volunteer for Azov. “After World War Two, the victors wrote their history,” Skillit told the BBC. “They decided that it’s always a bad thing to say I am white and I am proud.”

Foreign Azov volunteers are driven by the call of the “Reconquista,” or the mission to place eastern European nations under the control of a white supremacist dictatorship modeled after the Nazi Reichskommissariat dictatorship that ruled Ukraine during World War II. The mission is promoted effusively by Azov’s chief ideologue, Andriy Biletsky, a veteran fascist organizer who leads the Social National Assembly in Ukraine’s parliament. Biletsky’s assembly has pledged to outlaw interracial contacts and vowed “to prepare Ukraine for further expansion and to struggle for the liberation of the entire White Race from the domination of the internationalist speculative capital.”

Perhaps the most notorious of the racist European youth drawn to the military training camps of Ukraine was a 25-year-old French farm worker named Gregoire Montaux. In June 2016, Moutaux was arrested on Ukraine’s border by the country’s SBU security services with a staggering arsenal of assault rifles, thousands of rounds of ammunition and 125kg of TNT explosives. He had even managed to gain possession of two anti-tank grenade launchers.

Driven by hardcore neo-Nazi ideology, Moutaux planned to blow up “a Muslim mosque, a Jewish synagogue, tax collection organizations, police patrol units,” and attack the Euro 2016 soccer championship. According to the SBU, the would-be terrorist had been in communication “with military units fighting in Donbas” — the eastern Ukrainian area where Azov maintains its training camps.

While mobilizing racist youth across Europe, Azov leadership has also managed to foster a warm relationship with the American military. In one photo posted to Azov’s website last November, an American military officer can be seen shaking hands with an Azov officer whose uniform was emblazoned with the Nazi-inspired Wolfsangel patch that serves as the militia’s symbol. The images highlighted a burgeoning relationship that has been largely conducted in secret, but whose disturbing details are slowly emerging.

Though Washington has not embarked on anything in Ukraine like the billion dollar train-and-equip program it implemented in Syria to promote regime change through a proxy force of so-called “moderate rebels,” there are clear and disturbing similarities between the two projects. Just as heavy weapons ostensibly intended for the CIA-backed Free Syrian Army went straight into the hands of Salafi-jihadi insurgent forces, including ISIS, American weapons in Ukraine are flowing directly to the extremists of Azov. And once again, in its single minded determination to turn up the heat on Russia, Washington seems willing to ignore the unsettling political orientations of its front line proxies.

In recent months, a wide spectrum of observers of the Ukrainian civil war have documented the transfer of heavy weapons made in the USA to the Azov Battalion, and right under the nose of the US State Department.

[s7e6e]

All they need now, is a false flag attack and a Stanley Blomkamp to fake some nuke explosions and the urban aftermath and all hell can break loose.

[DaveToo]

I'm assuming that all who die are being tested for Covid as is standard practice now.


On the contrary, the hundreds of thousands who are flooding Europe are allowed in without testing. Not sure about the military side of it. Right now it won't be many gangsters or extremists since men 18-60 are pulled off the trains.



That line was pure tongue-in-cheek. :)

Then again, why let any potential Covid death go to waste? ;)

[Johnnycomelately]

All they need now, is a false flag attack and a Stanley Blomkamp to fake some nuke explosions and the urban aftermath and all hell can break loose.

C’mon, see, that is not helpful thinking. Look for the positive, for the sake of the Christ in us.

[gini]

Tucker Carlson gives his take on the U.S. response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine .1/3/22--21 minutes--vx-SqVzg_2Q

[Agape]

Shaberon, thank you so much for your intelligent input as usually, it just occurred to me that “dismantling NATO” may have to wait till the end of Kali Yuga.

I may ask the question to some pandit locally , it may knock them out since it’s Mahashivaratri today and I don’t see yet how is the question practically answerable in world of human identity crisis.

Even if all of our historical pacts were dissolved now, there really is no dissolution of history, memories and ethnic identities in some cases pulling the civilisation cart right in the opposite direction, one of islands and segregated societies and new kinds of ghettos.


I think it’s all also, not happening or it’s been happening all the time, “the war”, jihad, Mahabharata , Sun-tzu and Olympics and human competition .

Imagine civilisation 0.2 is so far always beyond the reachable limits ...



🙏💧🙏

[s7e6e]

This video (https://www.linkedin.com/posts/peter-malinauskas_there-is-not-a-more-disturbing-image-of-the-activity-6903140831792918528-OFws) is showing newborns being cared for in an underground makeshift bomb shelter, a video broadcasted by The New York Times, the credit being attributed to a dr. Denis Surkov.

I'll just leave these 3 screenshots here. Reach your own conclusions.

485304853148532

[norman]

OMG ! . . . they're throwing babies out of incubators again.

[9ideon]

GUX49qg22Os

[Violet3]

My model on this becomes more simple daily watching how this unfolds.

The Davos/Chinese/Western Interests group works towards global control of all humans through many strategies, including using viruses and vaccines, and now they use the Ukraine operation after settting this all up in 2014 by creating a coup against an elected Ukrainian govt to go against Putin, who didn't want to play their game.

They try to knock Putin out by setting him up to where he had to act, or otherwise he would have been checkmated. Those Western interests also get a new news cycle away from all the truths coming our on the Covid operation, and they get a cover for inflation, which is a tool used to lower the standard of living for all western countries. They get this and much more.

Here a few articles relevant to what is going on:

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02/investigative-reports/technocracy-the-operating-system-for-the-new-international-rules-based-order-1/

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/26/stunning-discovery-evidence-suggests-u-s-intel-baited-russia-in-december-by-telling-china-ukraine-was-coming-into-nato/

https://truthout.org/articles/the-ukraine-mess-that-nuland-made/

I have talked to many folks I know and they all realize how serious this situation could get but they have ZERO idea of what is really going on, and if they actually could figure it out by that time the Control Group would be on to their next operation. The bad guys at this point are very bright indeed.

The Human Species only real chance of getting out of this is by calling on the "good ETs". Most of my efforts are now going in this direction.

Hi Traveler Jim
I am not so sure the Russians are not going to come through this operation ok; they are pretty bright also, and must have seen this coming for a long time now. i would bet that Putin still has some cards to play.
Out of interest though, how are you planning to call on the "good ETs"? Do you think they respond to planetary crises according to certain criteria, or a protocol? Wade Frazier recalled in a recent post that there is a practice of non-interference referred to in 'Star Trek,' which he thought was probably quite accurate.

[Mashika]

Hi guys, i'm taking a long trip and have some very dedicated stuff to do so i'll be offline for some time

I did not want to just disappear so i came to say hi and thank each one of you who have been a great friend all this time i was here. Thanks for listening and understanding :heart:

This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."
Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo :facepalm::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

[9ideon]

Hi guys, i'm taking a long trip and have some very dedicated stuff to do so i'll be offline for some time

I did not want to just disappear so i came to say hi and thank each one of you who have been a great friend all this time i was here. Thanks for listening and understanding :heart:

This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."
Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo :facepalm::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

будь осторожен приятель

:cat::cat::cat:

[Mashika]

Hi guys, i'm taking a long trip and have some very dedicated stuff to do so i'll be offline for some time

I did not want to just disappear so i came to say hi and thank each one of you who have been a great friend all this time i was here. Thanks for listening and understanding :heart:

This is probably my last post in a while so i wanted to post this because it makes me laugh very hard, as it is exactly what we see on the news day by day

"In Poland, there was a live broadcast about the humanitarian catastrophe. Suddenly one of the dead men came to life..."
Vyagz5vmZjE

Ohhh noooooooo :facepalm::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

Damn you wind! Can you follow the narrative for once?

будь осторожен приятель

:cat::cat::cat:

:heart: :flower: :cat:

[Mashika]

And remember friends, everything is fake except the dead bodies on the bag.. oh wait......

J6bfyUplI0c

[Eric J (Viking)]

US embassy just REMOVED all their Ukraine BIOWEAPON LAB DOCUMENTS from the website… Here they are…


https://strangesounds.org/2022/02/us-embassy-just-removed-all-their-ukraine-bioweapon-lab-documents-from-the-website-here-they-are.html

Viking

[mizo]

Pretty soon this chap will be having to look carefully over his shoulder when going out for his groceries etc. Not sure I'd be brave enough to divulge where my street and location is in Kiev , especially so after his very public anti-regime/mafia tweets and videos.

https://twitter.com/Anne_Marie_2/status/1498596584656879617

https://twitter.com/Based_ENG/status/1498423048558493701

Brave guy!

[Jamie]

Debunking Ukraine War Lies & Propaganda! SNL’s Hypocritical Ukraine Tribute! W/ Aaron Maté:

bbX_-QXnKDE

Just a heads-up to others. After watching this video I wanted to find the original RT video of Maria Zakharova's press conference.
Apparently the RT Channel on Youtube with all it's videos are now blocked from access by UK citizens.
No worries, as I can still access the RT website direct, but still...not sure if it's been mentioned here or noticed yet.

[silver birch]

And remember friends, everything is fake except the dead bodies on the bag.. oh wait......

J6bfyUplI0c

This reminds me of the beginning of Codep-19 and the hardships of being an actor-of-war. Nicotine is a powerful poison.
Please stay safe, Malisa.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/caught-fake-dead-bodies-for-future-propaganda-of-covid-deaths

[BMJ]

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1498324982354616321?s=20&t=DaIYAolc1paBMsRWlqGhdQ


1498324982354616321

Greek in Mariupol: “The fascist Ukrainians are killing us, they don’t let us leave the city”

https://greekcitytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/7.jpg

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/03/01/greek-in-mariupol-fascist-ukrainian/?amp

When asked by SKAI news if he planned to leave the city, Kiouranas responded “how can I leave? When you try to leave the Ukrainian fascists, the Azov Battalion, will stop you and kill you.”

PRESIDENT PUTIN DENAZIFYING THE UKRAINE: AZOV BATTALION

Compare the pair:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infosperber.ch%2Fdata%2Fdms%2Fmedia%2Flarge%2FUkraineNaziEmbleme.png&f=1&nofb=1

The Nazi's are thriving in Ukraine

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.img.sputniknews.com%2Fimages%2F101459%2F85%2F1014598542.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

Azov Battalion

Quote:
" Azov Special Operations Detachment ... or Azov Battalion (until September 2014), is a right-wing extremist and neo-Nazi unit of the National Guard of Ukraine, based in Mariupol, in the Azov Sea coastal region.

It saw its first combat experience recapturing Mariupol from pro-Russian separatists forces in June 2014. Azov initially formed as a volunteer militia on 5 May 2014 during the Odessa clashes.

On 12 November 2014, Azov was incorporated into the National Guard of Ukraine, and since then all members are contract soldiers serving in the National Guard of Ukraine. "

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Origins or inspiration?

SS Das Reich (SS-Verfügungsdivision)

Link: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-Verfügungsdivision

Nazi Symbolism Flourishes in Post-Maidan Ukraine
Sputnik
13.8.2014
Quote:
" “The Azov men use the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel (Wolf’s Hook) symbol on their banner and members of the battalion are openly white supremacists, or anti-Semites,” he wrote in his article entitled “Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists”. "

Earlier this year (2014) Kiev saw a torchlight rally, similar to that in Berlin in 1933 when 25,000 Nazi troops marched through the city to cheer Adolf Hitler, the then newly appointed Chancellor of Germany.

Link: https://sputniknews.com/20140813/Nazi-Symbolism-Flourishes-in-Post-Maidan-Ukraine-191975347.html

[Bill Ryan]

Greek in Mariupol: “The fascist Ukrainians are killing us, they don’t let us leave the city”

https://greekcitytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/7.jpg

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/03/01/greek-in-mariupol-fascist-ukrainian/?amp

When asked by SKAI news if he planned to leave the city, Kiouranas responded “how can I leave? When you try to leave the Ukrainian fascists, the Azov Battalion, will stop you and kill you.”This correlates with Saturday's in-Kiev report from Coach Red Pill, posted here by Gwin Ru: (and yes, this is an excellent and crystal clear report from the ground)

...

1vdiEABLFoo


Excellent summary in this video. Very many thanks for sharing this :highfive:

Coach Red Pill's latest report is here (this time 2 hours long and published yesterday), and I've NOT listened to this yet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtN6C9xfzFo

[Tintin]

Debunking Ukraine War Lies & Propaganda! SNL’s Hypocritical Ukraine Tribute! W/ Aaron Maté:

bbX_-QXnKDE

Just a heads-up to others. After watching this video I wanted to find the original RT video of Maria Zakharova's press conference.
Apparently the RT Channel on Youtube with all it's videos are now blocked from access by UK citizens.
No worries, as I can still access the RT website direct, but still...not sure if it's been mentioned here or noticed yet.

I've just checked their site and can confirm access as well :thumbsup:

They're backed up on Rumble and Odyssey too.

[Vangelo]

In this post sequence we questioned if Putin was checkmated into the invasion.


...

My problem is I can't figure out why Putin took the mantel to trigger this. Maybe the following is too simplistic and naïve but either he is part of the cabal (which is inconsistent with previous behavior) or he has been 'checkmated' and has to respond in this way. I am hearing and reading evidence to support this, but like everything I read and see today, I am hesitant to accept it as true because of all the fake news and propaganda.

If he was, who triggered him and why? This article offers an answer...

Former Russian Ambassador and Current CIA Director, Bill Burns, Knew Exactly What Would Trigger Vladimir Putin to Enter Ukraine (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/28/former-russian-ambassador-and-current-cia-director-bill-burns-knew-exactly-what-would-trigger-vladimir-putin-to-enter-ukraine/)

In summary the article says that they knew accepting Ukraine into NATO would be the thing the pushed Putin over the edge and the motive is to blame all of the domestic problems, such as inflation, on the war.

This reminded me to the Whitehouse's decision to postpone the State of the Union Address. Never before has a US president delayed it to March. The decision to delay seems to fit the agenda. They knew Putin would have to invade before the spring temperature thaw otherwise his tanks etc would get stuck in the mud. If this is true, it was all planned and Putin was played.

[samildamach]

In this post sequence we questioned if Putin was checkmated into the invasion.


...

My problem is I can't figure out why Putin took the mantel to trigger this. Maybe the following is too simplistic and naïve but either he is part of the cabal (which is inconsistent with previous behavior) or he has been 'checkmated' and has to respond in this way. I am hearing and reading evidence to support this, but like everything I read and see today, I am hesitant to accept it as true because of all the fake news and propaganda.

If he was, who triggered him and why? This article offers an answer...

Former Russian Ambassador and Current CIA Director, Bill Burns, Knew Exactly What Would Trigger Vladimir Putin to Enter Ukraine (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/28/former-russian-ambassador-and-current-cia-director-bill-burns-knew-exactly-what-would-trigger-vladimir-putin-to-enter-ukraine/)

In summary the article says that they knew accepting Ukraine into NATO would be the thing the pushed Putin over the edge and the motive is to blame all of the domestic problems, such as inflation, on the war.

This reminded me to the Whitehouse's decision to postpone the State of the Union Address. Never before has a US president delayed it to March. The decision to delay seems to fit the agenda. They knew Putin would have to invade before the spring temperature thaw otherwise his tanks etc would get stuck in the mud. If this is true, it was all planned and Putin was played.

That's a really great point on the state of the union address ,spot on

[norman]

I can't think of one major war that wasn't kicked off with a false flag stunt.

Why should we assume the planers of this war haven't cooked up a nice juicy false flag for it ?


I'll borrow a term from Edina here, we should be looking around the edges right now. I'll guess it's a 99%+ chance there's a shocking false flag only days or hours away.

With the covid media psyop still very fresh in our minds, do I have to tell anyone here how horribly successful that false flag is going to be, IF WE DON'T CALL IT OUT AHEAD OF TIME, from the roof tops.

[Sérénité]

Greek in Mariupol: “The fascist Ukrainians are killing us, they don’t let us leave the city”

https://greekcitytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/7.jpg

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/03/01/greek-in-mariupol-fascist-ukrainian/?amp

When asked by SKAI news if he planned to leave the city, Kiouranas responded “how can I leave? When you try to leave the Ukrainian fascists, the Azov Battalion, will stop you and kill you.”This correlates with Saturday's in-Kiev report from Coach Red Pill, posted here by Gwin Ru: (and yes, this is an excellent and crystal clear report from the ground)

...

1vdiEABLFoo


Excellent summary in this video. Very many thanks for sharing this :highfive:

Coach Red Pill's latest report is here (this time 2 hours long and published yesterday), and I've NOT listened to this yet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtN6C9xfzFo

Anybody who is on Telegram and wanting to follow Coach Red Pill, here is the link;

https://t.me/realCRP

[Bill Ryan]

Here's a Fox News interview with a retired US Army Colonel (Douglas Macgregor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor)) who — for once on mainstream news! — is very probably presenting totally accurate information. He's a former senior advisor to the US Secretary of Defense.

This wasn't aired on the main Fox News channel itself, but on Macgregor's own channel. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvT7auiBNuA87gw64Me1i2Q/videos) His other videos are all worth checking out, as he has a lot to say.

This is just 3 minutes, and recommended. :thumbsup:

"We are urging Ukrainians to fight a war they can't win"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5pMXGorBM

[Vangelo]

Here's a Fox News interview with a retired US Army Colonel (Douglas Macgregor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor)) who — for once on mainstream news! — is very probably presenting totally accurate information. He's a former senior advisor to the US Secretary of Defense.

This wasn't aired on the main Fox News channel itself, but on Macgregor's own channel. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvT7auiBNuA87gw64Me1i2Q/videos) His other videos are all worth checking out, as he has a lot to say.

This is just 3 minutes, and recommended. :thumbsup:

"We are urging Ukrainians to fight a war they can't win"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY5pMXGorBM

Macgregor was on the Dan Bongino show on Fox the other day. Bongino said he got an unbelievable amount of pushback on that segment by the viewers

[Mike Gorman]

All of this is VERY interesting, I like this Coach Red Pill bloke, it is clear he has a very astute mind and also good intentions with delivering honest observations from his convenient location, I was saying recently that I sense Putin and Russia are doing good work, the new Russia brings with it Orthodox Christian values, and a strong resistance to the cabal of the New world Order, I am going purely on instinct and also my revulsion with NATO/Biden administration ideas and intentions, the RT website has been blocked from Australia, we can no longer access it, but the YouTube RT channel is still up and broadcasting (surprisingly) there is so much that we do not understand or know about the Ukraine action, but I for one do not beleive Putin to be an evil man at all - we in the West have so much criminality, so much evil amidst the intelligence community and the covert circles of politics.
*Just watched that 3 minute section with the general speaking, he is 100% on target in my opinion, the sooner we leave well enough alone, the sooner this will be resolved.' But is the current U.s administration smart enough to know this? They are compromised by some very stupid people.

[Zamolxe]

Videos of regular Ukrainian civilians blocking the Russian invasion.
I will not embed them, as there are just too many.

Don't believe the propaganda that says the Ukrainian people are being "saved" by Russia.

They are fighting back and have been showing incredible resiliency. Many of them are russian-speaking or russian ethnics that live inside Ukraine.
Old or young, men or women. They are all rejecting the Russian aggression.

Look at the videos for yourselves.

Also, check for the translations in the comments.


Chernihiv region, civilians do not let invaders into the village
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498297184231596042
https://twitter.com/i/status/1497855835862708229

People in #Berdyansk sing the #Ukrainian anthem in front of #Russian military equipment near the city council.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1498221216649338881

locals stopping Russian column
https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1498277368322052097

Villagers try to stop russian tanks (with molotovs)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1497970463015727104

Woman confronting invaders
https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1498226890276057088

Residents from a town in Zaporizhzhia Oblast blocked the path of a Russian T-90A tank and forced it to turn around.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1497972204851634191

A crowd of Ukrainian locals gathered in front of Russian tanks trying to enter their town, forcing the soldiers to back away.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498492722025533442

Occupied #Kupyansk. People sing the anthem of #Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498591015002853377

Civilians in #Chernihiv region block the way for #Russian vehicles. They sing the #Ukrainian #anthem.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498579237091094533

With their bare hands, they rush at the car with the invaders and do not let it pass.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498602740188172293

Russian troops blocked by civilians in Kupyansk
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498605843994005504

Civilians blocked the street in #Melitopol and forced the Russian trucks to turn back #Ukraine #UkraineRussiaWar
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498636100990078978

Man blocking russian troops
https://twitter.com/i/status/1497188444124053506

Elderly resident reprimands Russian soldiers: 'You have your own country'
https://twitter.com/i/status/1497478435240923136

Ukrainian resistance: man tries to push back Russian tank
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/feb/27/ukrainian-resistance-man-climbs-on-to-russian-tank-then-kneels-before-it-video

woman confronts russian soldiers
https://twitter.com/FutureBoy/status/1496999905839050757

#Berdyansk locals chanting "Putin Khuylo (D**khead)" in front of the town hall, occupied by Russians
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498312223214743552
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498299597319512067
https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/1498249424107192322
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1498243738363371522
https://twitter.com/i/status/1498366887683624962


I apologize if there is a video posted twice, it was a long list to compile.

[mountain_jim]

Will Soros ever leave this physical plane?

https://twitter.com/MCD01792335/status/1498467524177915906?s=20&t=Rd-hoc0rGCqhWYpGaW2DBQ

1498467524177915906



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/george-soros-speaks-us-must-whatever-possible-back-ukraine/



George Soros Speaks Out: US Must Do “Whatever Possible” to Back Ukraine
By Jim Hoft
Published February 28, 2022 at 4:01pm
1381 Comments

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/soros-leaks.jpg

Breitbart.com reported:

Billionaire Democrat megadonor George Soros says the United States, and other transatlantic nations, must “do whatever is in their power” to back Ukraine against Russia in the ongoing conflict overseas.

After Russia first invaded Ukraine on February 24, Soros says the U.S. and its allies ought to have as much involvement in the conflict as possible even as Americans overwhelmingly oppose U.S. involvement.

“I have witnessed Ukraine transform from a collapsing part of the Soviet Union to a liberal democracy and an open society,” Soros wrote in a series of statements online.

“It is important that both the transatlantic alliance (the United States, Canada, the European Union, and the United Kingdom) but also other nations do whatever is in their power to support Ukraine in its time of existential threat,” he continued.

Soros’s urging more U.S. involvement in Ukraine comes as President Joe Biden has announced that he will send another round of American troops to Germany. The total number of American troops deployed to aid in the Ukraine-Russia conflict now stands at about 12,000.

< soros tweets at link >

[mountain_jim]

(Thia article is 4 weeks old)


https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/neo-nazis-active-in-ukraine-as-white-house-adds-3000-troops/




Neo-Nazis active in Ukraine as White House adds 3,000 troops
February 3, 2022 1:07 PM CST BY BEN CHACKO AND JOHN WOJCIK

https://www.peoplesworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Ukraine-Azov-Battalion.jpeg
New recruits take an oath of allegiance before being sent to the eastern part of Ukraine to join the ranks of the neo-Nazi 'Azov Battalion' in Kiev, Ukraine. | Sergei Chuzavkov / AP

There’s an increasingly surreal air regarding the war scare over Ukraine.

...


Nazis in the Donbass

The self-governing separatist People’s Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk are backed by Russia, but their forces are not part of the Russian army.

On the other side of the trenches the situation is even more complex. The Western media, particularly in Europe, has gushed over the heroic “volunteers” manning the battle lines for Ukraine in the Donbass, even running interviews with ex-soldiers from the West “contracted” to fight for Ukraine (that is, mercenaries).

Kiev’s forces in the Donbass war are by no means all regular soldiers. Far-right forces were the foot soldiers of the 2014 Maidan coup that provoked the conflict, and have been on the front lines ever since.

Most notorious is the Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi unit formed from ultras from the Metalist Kharkiv football club in 2014. Its founder, Andriy Biletsky, is an unsubtle fascist, having called on Ukraine to lead a crusade of the “white races” against the “Semite-led untermenschen.”

Ukraine’s Interior Ministry authorized the formation of paramilitary battalions that year, and Azov was one. Another, the Aidar Battalion, formed the same year, also has far-right ideological associations.

These fascist units are allowed a cloak of respectability by Ukraine’s rehabilitation of Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and rewriting of history to portray genocidal organizations like his Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which played a major role in the Holocaust, as anti-Soviet patriots.

People’s World in the U.S., Morning Star in the U.K., and other newspapers are sometimes accused of exaggerating the fascist character of the 2014 coup in Ukraine and its aftermath, since the Kiev government itself is not overtly fascist. But the turning over of police and military units to fascist control by the regular Ukrainian government speaks volumes about the power of fascists in Ukraine. And the current government itself glorifies actual fascists like Bandera. Then, of course, the current government is guilty in the very least of having the bad taste of marches through the capital commemorating regiments of the Waffen SS.

By autumn 2014, Amnesty International was warning the Ukrainian government that it had documented war crimes “including abductions, unlawful detention, ill-treatment, robbery, extortion, and possible executions committed by the Aidar Battalion” in the Donbass.

The mother of one separatist fighter reported the head of her son being mailed to her in a box following his capture by “white nationalist paramilitaries.” Yet that September, the Azov Battalion was formally enrolled in the National Guard of Ukraine.

Enter the mercenaries

Are these the forces that Western “volunteers” or mercenaries are signing up with? Certainly they have tried to recruit foreigners in the past. Hope Not Hate warned in 2018 that the Azov Battalion was working with a British group called the Misanthropic Division to recruit far-right British activists to travel to Ukraine to fight.

Ukrainian Communist Party leader Petro Symonenko says foreign mercenaries are allowed to sign up with the Ukrainian military as a matter of course, and it is not just units like Azov which recruit them.

“After the 2014 coup, Ukraine has turned into a sump of neo-Nazis from around the world. In the Donbass, there are mercenaries from many countries as part of the volunteer battalions,” he tells me, “including the U.K.

“In addition to the ideological Nazis you have the ‘human safari’ scum, who see the war in the Donbass as a kind of extreme entertainment.

“Then you have the private military companies—fighters and instructors from Letera-43 from Italy, Halo Trust, Greystone, ‘Academi’ (known as Blackwater before 2009) from the U.S. and others. And there are a lot of official instructors from NATO countries—the U.S., Britain, Canada, and so on.”

Leaving aside the risks to people back at home of allowing these mercenaries to travel to warzones to fight alongside known extremists—we saw the potential consequences when a fighter, returned from the NATO-backed war to overthrow Gaddafi in Libya, killed 22 people in the Manchester Arena terror attack in 2017—the picture is explosive.

Ukraine’s militarized Donbass border swarms with professional soldiers, neo-Nazi paramilitaries, trigger-happy adventurers and “war tourists,” mercenaries, NATO “advisers,” and, thanks to the recent war scare, there’s a growing direct Western military presence.

It would not take much to light this tinderbox and quite a few of the unsavory characters in that mix would not be averse to doing so.

That is why the only sane approach to this crisis is de-escalation. The governments of the NATO countries must be pressed to withdraw troops from Ukraine and stop loading up an army bristling with “volunteers” with heavy weaponry.

Talks with Russia and Ukraine on reviving the Minsk peace process have to be revived, as Putin requested in Moscow this week. The U.S. and NATO must cease their dangerous brinksmanship.

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[Zamolxe]

This video was just posted.
For the members trying to say that this is EU/NATO's fault for allowing Ukrainians to choose their future...

FYI, these are not EU/NATO military convoys that are rolling through Ukraine trying to force them to join EU/NATO.

Maybe a country should be sovereign and free to choose its own path. Regardless of what next-door dictators think.

I believe the people in this video are making that point loud and clear. And risking their lives to make that point.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1498645822879186954

[s7e6e]

Zamolxe: you are either naive or pushing NATO's agenda. Either way, we can see through the lies.

[Gwin Ru]

...

... the real Ghost of Kiev (http://82.221.129.208/1/.to2.html) was here:


http://198.46.190.126/videos/kievghostshootdown.mp4

[Zamolxe]

Zamolxe: you are either naive or pushing NATO's agenda. Either way, we can see through the lies.

I have and always will criticize NATO when they invade/bomb a sovereign country. Will you ever criticize Russia for doing the same?

That's how you spot a propaganda account.

[Patient]

Zamolxe: you are either naive or pushing NATO's agenda. Either way, we can see through the lies.

I have and always will criticize NATO when they invade/bomb a sovereign country. Will you ever criticize Russia for doing the same?

That's how you spot a propaganda account.

I may be over simplyfying, but a major problem that the Ukranians have is that they are living in a buffer zone and the bullies of the world are constantly manipulating them with false narratives.

When push comes to shove, many people will fight to protect their home.

The confusion from Nato has Ukrainians spinning in circles.

The US took advantage to steal from them while destabilizing the buffer zone causing problems for Russia.

[Zamolxe]

Sorry, but I fail to understand.


The US took advantage to steal from them
What exactly did the US steal from them? Again, we can talk for days about the US and its invasions. About how it stole Hawaii, Guam, Texas, etc.
But what did they steal from Ukraine?


they are living in a buffer zone and the bullies of the world are constantly manipulating them
How is the US/NATO bullying Ukraine in this case? Have they been threatening them for the past 8 years? Have they annexed parts of their lands? Have they invaded them?
This sounds like false equivalence.


The confusion from Nato has Ukrainians spinning in circles.
What confusion, I don't get it.
This invasion actually gives NATO credibility and a reason to exist. As we can see, Ukraine cannot guarantee its integrity without it being part of a defensive alliance. So this all validates NATO and them wishing to be part of it. Because of Russia's actions. Past and present.

This is why countries in Eastern Europe wanted and want to join NATO. Because they all fear Russia. And the events that have been unfolding in the past days only show that their fears were warranted.

If ever those countries will fear NATO crossing their borders and annexing parts of their territories, they will turn to Russia.

[ExomatrixTV]

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07 (MSM pushed) FAKE NEWS stories coming out of Ukraine:

We’re only three days into Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, and yet the propaganda cogs are whirring fast as lightning, churning out “news”, opinion and content grist for the media mill. In just the last 48 hours dozens of stories, images, narratives and videos have circulated as being taken from the fighting in Ukraine, a huge percentage of which are fake.

Now, some of it could be attributed to misunderstandings, mistaken identity, misattribution…but many and most are likely deliberate deceptions designed to provoke a response. Let’s dive right in.


01. “The Ghost of Kiev”

Early Friday morning it was reported that a single Ukrainian plane, a MiG-29, was patrolling the skies above Kiev. The English speaking press called the unnamed pilot “The Ghost of Kiev”, and claimed he had downed 6 Russian jets in air-to-air combat in less than 2 days, making him an official Fighter Ace, and probably one of the fastest to ever earn that title.


The trouble is there is almost no evidence this happened at all. To quote Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/who-ghost-kyiv-ukraine-fighter-pilot-mig-29-russian-fighter-jets-combat-1682651):
There is zero evidence the “Ghost of Kyiv” exists”.
Neither side can confirm Russia has lost six planes in total, let alone to one man inside a single day. And a video alleged to be “the Ghost” in combat – shared by the Ukrainian Armed Forces – is confirmed to actually be footage taken from a video game (https://kotaku.com/ghost-kyiv-russia-ukraine-invasion-viral-video-fake-pc-1848598266).

Nevertheless, he already has his own Wikipedia page. A testament to how fast a lie can move while the truth is putting its boots on.


02. “Russian planes flying over Kiev”

A lot of people have been sharing a short video of Russian planes allegedly flying low over the city of Kiev (https://twitter.com/Aknc35624923/status/1496724320567050241). The Times used it a still from it in their story “Will sanctions stop a Russian shell?”:

https://whynotnews.eu/pix/time-using-old-picture-of-russian-jets-in-moscow-claim-its-kiev.jpg

The problem with that is it’s not Kiev, it’s Moscow. And it’s not today, it’s two years ago. It’s footage of what is likely a rehearsal for the 2020 Victory Day Parade flyover.

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03. “Zelenskiy visiting the troops”

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source (https://twitter.com/DanielleCandela/status/1497274193007845383)

Possibly no politician in history has had a PR makeover quite as fast as Vlodomyr Zelenskiy. Last week he was just some guy, this week he’s a war hero, there’s talk of building statues of the man. A (not at all staged) “leaked” phone call had him turning down the US offer of an airlift to safety.

Twitter is dotted with people sharing photos of him in combat fatigues, comparing him favourably to Trump and Trudeau and asking “what other leaders would fight alongside their troops?”

But the problem with that is the photos are all almost a year old, taken when he visited the troops last April (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9463259/Ukraines-president-visits-line-trenches-Russian-TV-warns-nation-one-step-war.html):
https://whynotnews.eu/pix/zelenskiy-donbass-april-2021.jpg


04. “Luhansk power station explosion”

Early on in the confrontation, this video started doing the rounds on social media:
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source (https://twitter.com/OakRedhammer/status/1496716492276002816)

The video went viral, receiving 100,000s of views (https://twitter.com/lilalav/status/1496738643565850625). Hundreds of accounts shared it, even major news networks (https://twitter.com/Hartes_Geld/status/1496974616115437582) used it, all claiming it shows a power station in Luhansk exploding after being hit with Russian missiles.
It does not, it’s a chemical plant exploding in Tianjin, China in 2015 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONsmJAyFAAw).


05. Video games. again.

This footage, claiming to show Ukrainian ground forces downing Russian aircraft, also went viral recently, even appearing on Spanish television (https://twitter.com/RealtorCristyB/status/1497318770699739136) news:

https://whynotnews.eu/gif/ARMA-3-False.gif
…It’s from the video game ARMA 3 (https://kotaku.com/ukraine-invasion-war-russia-arma-3-iii-bohemia-video-ga-1848591313).


06. “Russian warship go F*** yourself”

This was the first major propaganda narrative following Russia’s advance onto Ukrainian territory. Allegedly leaked audio (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-soldiers-snake-island-russia-warship-b2023039.html) showed Ukrainian border guards on tiny Snake Island in the black sea communicating with a Russian warship. Upon being told to surrender, the guards say “Russian warship go **** yourself”.

The Western press reported that all 13 of the men were killed (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60522454), and the Ukrainian government released a statement saying they would all be awarded posthumous honors.

However, while the supposedly fallen heroes were being canonised all over the western world, Russia was reporting (https://www.rt.com/news/550717-snake-island-guards-surrendered/) that they had not been killed at all, but taken alive and unharmed back to the mainland.

A story both the press (https://www.dumptheguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/ukraine-island-defenders-who-told-russian-officer-go-****-yourself-may-still-be-alive) and the Ukrainian government (https://www.facebook.com/DPSUkraine/posts/285013563737521) have since reluctantly admitted is likely true.


07. Syrian drone strikes footage

Another video doing the rounds, and again shared by official Ukrainian accounts (https://www.facebook.com/UkrainianLandForces/), was drone footage supposedly showing the destruction of a column of Russian vehicles.

https://whynotnews.eu/pix/syria-fake-ukraine-video-screenshot-650x661.jpg


It’s actually footage of a Turkish drone strike in Syria from 2020.

Meanwhile, other accounts were sharing footage of combat from Libya or Israeli bombardments of Gaza under the hashtag #StandWithUkraine. Middle East Eye has compiled a list. (https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russia-ukraine-war-videos-misinformation-middle-east)

It’s somewhat beautiful irony that so many of the clips prompting outrage in Western liberals actually come from wars their governments started.



There we have it, seven stories about the war in Ukraine that are demonstrably fake, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

There’s tons of other fakes out there, not to mention fakes of fakes designed to discredit doubters or just spread chaos.

Ultimately, it’s all a timely reminder that propaganda is at its most potent at times where the news is moving fast and people are feeling emotional.
That is WHY the media whips up fear, anxiety and hatred, because people in that emotional state are less likely to think critically.

It should go without saying that this is equally true for both sides. We shouldn’t blindly accept claims from the Russian side, simply because we know NATO lies. Both sides propagandize, and one-eyed scepticism is only a different kind of bias.

In short, if you see something designed to provoke an emotional reaction, don’t let it. Never get swept along in the narrative, always hold yourself back, keep calm and ask rational questions.

Withhold belief, demand facts. It’s the only way to keep your mind free.
Or, to quote HL Mencken:
Never believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see.”


source (https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/27/7-fake-news-stories-coming-out-of-ukraine/)



Article (https://www.ninefornews.nl/7-nepnieuwsverhalen-uit-oekraine-waar-mensen-met-open-ogen-intuinden/) (Dutch 🇳🇱 + Multi-Language Options). 🦜🦋🌳

[pyrangello]

"Breadbasket Of World" Choked Off By Russian Invasion As Wheat Prices Soar
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/breadbasket-world-choked-russian-invasion-wheat-prices-soar

Ukraine has earned the nickname "breadbasket of Europe" for its rich dark soil, vast wheat fields, and other farm goods. The Russian invasion has cut off the world from cheap and abundant wheat supplies.

Ukraine and Russia are vital to the global food supply, accounting for more than a quarter of global wheat trade, about a fifth of corn, and 12% of all calories traded globally, according to Bloomberg.

From Me, so China stocked up on so much wheat and grain prior to this action, one has to give thought to that action. ?????

My buddy from sweden always said about revolutions ? "You need 3 things to have a revolution , 1) food to eat, 2) a bed to sleep in and 3) a warm place to take a #2. If you don't have those you have a revolution" Interesting times

[ExomatrixTV]

The First Casualty Of War Is Truth:

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[ExomatrixTV]

This is more believable than MSM Propaganda ...

https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/_/1/e/o/_1eod.gaa.mp4


source (https://rumble.com/vw5v9b-this-is-more-believable-than-msm-propaganda-....html)

[ExomatrixTV]

Western MSM Lying About Almost Everything Happening in Kiev Ukraine:

https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/q/z/g/o/qzgod.caa.mp4


source (https://rumble.com/vw605s-western-msm-lying-about-almost-everything-happening-in-kiev-ukraine.html)