Steven Greer: DISCLOSURE 2.0 (25 April 2021)

[ExomatrixTV]

DISCLOSURE 2.0 ! April 25, 2021 1p-6p Pacific Time (Phoenix)

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Join Dr Steven Greer with special guests
-Carol Rosin (spokesperson for Wernher von Braun who invented the rocket),
-Constitutional Attorney Daniel Sheehan,
-Paola Harris with an expose on a NEW ET crash retrieval case bigger than Roswell in significance
-Chief Cosmonaut and astronaut Trainer for Russia Timofey Egorov,
-Ambassador of Peace Steven Seagal and others!
-Proof of man-made UFOs that have staged many hoaxed “alien events” will be presented.
Two opportunities to participate:

Webinar (Online):

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In Person:

For those attending in person, you will be in a private residence in Scottsdale AZ with Dr. Greer for the 20th Anniversary of the Disclosure project PLUS 4 more days of presentations (not available by Webinar) . LIMITED to 20 participants in person. These presentations will be the ultimate inside story of Disclosure 1990-today, with information about the how, the who and where of secret UFO and ET related programs, and current activities- AND a deep dive into CE5 Contact, meditation, remote viewing training and the Science of Consciousness.

Total program in person: $5000 per person minimum contribution for crowdfunding emergency documentary (see below) April 25-29 (5 days 1p-6p). For $10,000 or more per person, event attendance PLUS a dinner with other major donors and Dr. Greer at the private residence. Please write to Lera (vedisclosure@gmail.com) if you want to attend.

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It is critical that we complete and release this documentary film to avert the coming false flag narrative of the “alien threat’ which is at the core of recent US government and media reports. The Unacknowledged projects are fast-tracking this false disclosure, anticipated in the paper When Disclosure Serves Secrecy (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001wbU6UIGE0WW5njq2_hVxqdhYxFjT7Huu_GYeuegkrEJY1Es7koxykED5x6ahR7MoRx-fOqszC8d948GXhdoyTFjnelSA_hp8LqDmMQK98KPIaZRYc8BBR2fkErJwyaloMRVhoh5CwFTnQLl4CCVbEgOf_qNxgfotN7lgSXX AFl1B9ROrv1JHt0rX4R0NiES8XcrCoz9AUdlcNaKAbdlncA==&c=nn5bjIM2N_GcUGgsxmSGL9JeC6jHi9PjG_nEdH9xsUifrl5T-1lCBA==&ch=KxRnuc9cZnodHMnlU3Ml62mMQDrUPCilXBEDhrFUQbXd9b2chDJzSw==&jrc=1)– written by Dr. Greer in 1999. It is now happening.



To prevent weapons in space and war in space it is essential that we expose this hoax NOW.


It is time for Universal Peace, not endless war!
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All in person events with Dr. Greer are on hold for now.

As states lift their event and gathering restrictions we are watching carefully to see when we can resume.
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[thepainterdoug]

Business people applying their trade

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[amor]

Thank you Doug for that insightful pragmatic truth.

[JDarktide]

Yup, they are asking for money to fund their next documentary. But does that mean they are wrong about what is being disclosed?

[Agape]

You don’t see anyone who has gotten “first hand proof of evidence” of ET visitations or that ET would give Steven Greer ( love and respect 🙏 ) more than the other people save for good memory.

No matter how many photos or videos of “lights in the sky” or UFOs you have or how many new terms are invented for the “phenomena” in order to improve the situation,
due to the sheer amount of atmospheric, electromagnetic and plasmatic phenomena and their various types we don’t have all knowledge of even really,
the most worthy evidence rests still on “witness testimonies”,
in worse case on second, third, forth hand testimonies or messages passed on documents all of which can be interpreted in number of ways and these days probably even easily falsified.

The “first contact” type of scenario depends entirely on the ET fleet who would have to agree to intervene on this planet openly which is “the end game” of the whole storyline, regardless the ways we think we want to apply or take with it otherwise.


The chances are that the ET group who would contact us in open would rely on degree of intelligence, spiritual and emotional maturity of human participants even though I’ve never noticed that such group could be selected without possible - that is unpredictable mistakes- that cordially disable some of them and elevate others to function , in short and in the “end game scenario” it’s usually random human group who participate and rather seldom have trained in “ET Contact”
though individuals with greater social intelligence may be in advantage.



So far as I’m aware of, the “AI troll” of human invention tirelessly repeats “no tengo no mama” to the lost soul of genuine truth seeker hoping for one or another human government supplying undeniable, intelligible proofs of ET Contact.


Consider taking your dark glasses off before reading these messages but due to the high levels of UV there is currently no common advice or method that can be given in order to find “other than human truths” on the internet.

Nobody would listen


🙏😀🙏

[Gracy]

Total program in person: $5000 per person minimum contribution for crowdfunding emergency documentary (see below) April 25-29 (5 days 1p-6p). For $10,000 or more per person, event attendance PLUS a dinner with other major donors and Dr. Greer at the private residence. Please write to Lera if you want to attend.

This is reminiscent of the prices wealthy people pay to wine and dine with major politicians.

[TravelerJim]

I attended a weeklong Greer event at Mount Shasta with about 40 other people about 12 years ago. I only lasted about three days, as did a good many other fine folks. Not a good guy.

[scotslad]

I attended a weeklong Greer event at Mount Shasta with about 40 other people about 12 years ago. I only lasted about three days, as did a good many other fine folks. Not a good guy.

Are you able to share any of your doubts, reservations or what transpired to make you leave and form the perceptions/conclusions/realisations you now have?

[ExomatrixTV]

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[Open Minded Dude]

"In it for the money" and "in it for the Truth" must not always be mutually exlusive.

[ExomatrixTV]

"In it for the money" and "in it for the Truth" must not always be mutually exclusive.

Exactly ... I co-organized several (sold out) big international UFO conferences and gave over 80 UFO lectures in 5 countries last 31 years ... I am used hearing some people saying "you do it for the money" rhetoric ... all (armchair critic's) who say that never ever organized the same for free ;) and assume that is a "good thing" ... meanwhile judging people who are way more proactive they ever will be.

On top of that, nobody is forced to pay anything ... you want to help/support, or you don't ... and nobody is feeling bad if you chose to decline.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[TravelerJim]

I attended a weeklong Greer event at Mount Shasta with about 40 other people about 12 years ago. I only lasted about three days, as did a good many other fine folks. Not a good guy.

Are you able to share any of your doubts, reservations or what transpired to make you leave and form the perceptions/conclusions/realisations you now have?

His personal arrogance was something I rarely see in anyone, and in this field no one who "gets it" can be by definition arrogant. The conference circles out in the woods would be about 40 people and he would always have the same two women associates by his side who acted as some sort of energetic field, or so he thought, I think. EDITED OUT HERE A DATA POINT. The access he claimed to have with govt officials was much more limited and a good while back than he would have you believe. There were other things that more than a handful of us discussed but I don't remember what they were. At the time (this was around 09 I think) I was not terribly intuitive and I am still not but the energetic essence of the guy was not good at all. I do think he had something happen to him or had ET/paranormal experiences of some sort, but however things went down for him the end result was not pretty. As an aside, I am a capitalist pig and I wish there were more ways people in this field could monetize their work. So if he can get those types of fees I do not begrudge him for that.

[JDarktide]

I attended a weeklong Greer event at Mount Shasta with about 40 other people about 12 years ago. I only lasted about three days, as did a good many other fine folks. Not a good guy.

Are you able to share any of your doubts, reservations or what transpired to make you leave and form the perceptions/conclusions/realisations you now have?

His personal arrogance was something I rarely see in anyone, and in this field no one who "gets it" can be by definition arrogant. The conference circles out in the woods would be about 40 people and he would always have the same two women associates by his side who acted as some sort of energetic field, or so he thought, I think. EDITED OUT HERE A DATA POINT. The access he claimed to have with govt officials was much more limited and a good while back than he would have you believe. There were other things that more than a handful of us discussed but I don't remember what they were. At the time (this was around 09 I think) I was not terribly intuitive and I am still not but the energetic essence of the guy was not good at all. I do think he had something happen to him or had ET/paranormal experiences of some sort, but however things went down for him the end result was not pretty. As an aside, I am a capitalist pig and I wish there were more ways people in this field could monetize their work. So if he can get those types of fees I do not begrudge him for that.

True.
Say you went to a burger joint to grab a bite. The cook makes the best burgers around. The fact that the cook may have a poor attitude, or that he charges for his burgers .... does not exclude the fact that he makes a damn good burger.
Say what you want about the guy. Truths are Truths..
(The burger should be free! He is a jerk!!)

[Spellbound]

Can't say I'm a big fan of Greer....unfortunately.

Dave - Toronto

[aoibhghaire]

Here is a summary of the 25th April meeting:

Interesting clues by John Warner IV, son of Senator Warner (R), grandson of Paul Mellon,
German recovered technology, + other lectures.

John Warner talk about historical grandfather pro-fascist geopolitics.

Connections to Andrew and Paul Mellon. Bringing technology to the U.S.

What a Committee of 300 might be, scalar weaponry. Satellite detection capabilities of NHI craft jump to superluminal.

Underground tunnel system. Mount Weather. Connection to Trump's uncle. Chris Mellon himself may know little - believe in the upcoming June report - but also leave alone any more possible UFO classified issues. (All as part of several presentations for the 20th Anniversary of Disclosure Project @ National Press Club) - Steven Greer, Carol Rosin, Paola Harris (1945 UFO crash),

Russian cosmonaut trainer, Russian Col.-General and Russian extraterrestrial cases, ETs stepping out of craft. Also, Dan Sheehan.

[ExomatrixTV]

Am truly happy that I am able to see beyond the flaws of Dr. Steven M. Greer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer) (and he has some, yes!) ... as I am eternal grateful & truly appreciate for what he did (for me) in late 1980s early 1990s as his Project Starlight (https://siriusdisclosure.com/cseti-papers/the-cseti-project-starlight-disclosure-strategy/) was known to me when I was organizing the first International UFO Conference called "UFO's and the New World Order" in Amsterdam November 20th, 1992 ... Back then I had my own Local Radio & TV shows called 'Exposure Radio' & 'Exposure TV' in Amsterdam promoting all of it connected to our 'Exposure Magazine' with over 4000 subscribers ...

I studied back then (almost 30 years ago) Steven Greers efforts when he was not "famous" ... I had over 450+ VHS Tapes dealing with UFO Research & Suppressed News (Conspiracy Research) ... One of those 400+ VHS tapes of (4 hours each) was couple interviews with Greer explaining his CE5 Protocols and some unedited successful CE5 UFO Encounters in Florida with a group of 40 people on the beach using lasers multiple cameras and big torchlights inter acting with 3 "potato shaped" orange UFOs forming slowly a big triangle AFTER the CE5 group had intelligent feedback like UFOs pulsating (boosting up) as a response. You can hear the crowd cheering the event.

In that same year I was on Dutch National TV (3+ million viewers) discussing crop-circle mystery NOT being "debunked" satisfactorily by "Doug Bower & Dave Chorley" who traveled all over the world appearing on national tv "explaining how they hoaxed it" ... The two elderly were also invited to The Netherlands, and I was face to face (in real life) with them preparing for the show (debate). All because I was already seen in several magazines, Dutch newspapers and multiple national radio-shows. All to explaining that Crop Circle Mystery is far from being "explained away" (their "debunking" attempt failed).

Not long thereafter me doing all of that, we invited Colin Andrews (https://www.colinandrews.net/Biography.html?) to be one of the speakers of our 1st International UFO Conference in Amsterdam. Colin Andrews showed the latest results of a successful CE5 initiative (including some skeptical journalists) in the UK (England) ... Where Colin Andrews temporary worked together with Steven Greer in 1992 ... Separate they shared their mutual CE5 Crop-circle success/experiences ... combine that with me having an exclusive for The Dutch visitors showing the best UFO video-material at the time as I too was one of the speakers. Colin came to me after my UFO presentation and asked how I got all the super new UFO footage's, some of it he had "no permission" to use yet. I told him that I have a vast international network of conspiracy researchers copying from VHS to VHS tapes sending through mail from over 20 countries. This was between 1990 and 1996 long before "The Internet" was used by the majority of common people. Due to me building an international research network between 1982 and 1990 using acoustic C64 modem and went on multiple BBS systems (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system). I was already used to sending mail to many many countries swapping C64 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Commodore_64_games_(A%E2%80%93M)) games.

Some of the international C64 crackers hacked the telephone system so that we could do live conference calls for free, and I was invited to be one of the tele-conference-lines ... via these interactions my network only grew faster! ... Part of that network helped me to go on (among others) "usenet" where I downloaded the William (Bill) Cooper (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/william-cooper-conspiracy-theory-711469/) Report, Steven Greer material and so much more.

Keep in mind this all happened long before "The World Wide Web" was fully operational. Some may not be able to imagine how that is ;) as they have no experience like that.

So now you know am with Greer (indirectly) way, way back ... thanks to him, I have had my own (https://www.facebook.com/notes/2671629233090072/) 3 successful CE5 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?110588-CE5-Contact-Has-Begun--new-Steven-Greer-documentary-) experiences all with multiple witnesses following his protocols.

And yes Greer is obvious arrogant and very "authoritative" type ... but that has zero effect on me ... I just focus what is useful for me, what can help me to move on, and I did ... I never felt the need to join any "group think" mentality ever, so I do not feel pushed to have an "internal dialog" what to do about his flaws.

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳
April 28th, 2021

[CurEus]

Well, apart from Greer's pricing I also tend to take exception to go on $6,000 "guided tours" of megaliths. Yes people need to earn a living and some may incur considerable costs in their research that a few lectures, youtube videos and a smattering of book sales just won't cover. But some of the pricing is astronomical for people of average means.

I have never really been comfortable with Greer and I have never been particularly with his talks, lectures or interviews or even documentaries I have paid for so far. I really do get tired of one-trick ponies beating the same dead horse and them magically coming up with some "startling" new revelations so they can do a few more rounds on talk radio and lecture circuits.

I honestly prefer the people who are:
I have a story/experience, this is it.
Nothing much to add here.
Bye, I am done.
No I am not doing 50 interviews...there is nothing new to report.

Now for people who do actively research they remain interesting as they source and uncover new ( and often old) information but their research is their subject and focus. Yes, it helps to have a large audience for a variety of reasons but they don't focus on themselves.

[Agape]

I’m an Old Timer you see , iReport 😅

My ET contact may look somewhat like this these days:

“So where are you taking all the thousands of people who died in Delhi last night?”

“Don’t worry, we are compressing their memories and they will be preserved”

“Preserved ? What do you mean exactly?”

“Rar”

“Rar. They’ll end up in archive”.

“I wonder, how big percentage of those people are aware of your operation here really ? Are their memories going to stay alive?

Oh God Beautiful, you surely love India the Most.”


Rar, do I go to archive too ? “


“We enjoy keeping people in the game”

“Oh, you keep me because you think I’m a Game ?”

“Indeed the Universe itself is big Cosmic Joke. Enjoy the game....”


Ok Rar.


The message is in the Day when Earth Stood Still movie . Need to repeat the caveat ?

“No need to repeat, I’m older”.


“Anybody else want to convey a message to humanity than Rar ?”



🙏pray don’t be mean🙏

Bye humans



🌟

[Angels1981]

I really liked and understood his "unacknowledged" documentary and It laid well with me but now I'm a bit like nagh he has to charge large amounts of money. When money is involved I tend to stay away from it all. Love v money I prefer love actually. Sorry about the puns. lol.
However, I then understand he does require money to fund his ventures. But is there any other way to doing this. jo

[JDarktide]

I really liked and understood his "unacknowledged" documentary and It laid well with me but now I'm a bit like nagh he has to charge large amounts of money. When money is involved I tend to stay away from it all. Love v money I prefer love actually. Sorry about the puns. lol.
However, I then understand he does require money to fund his ventures. But is there any other way to doing this. jo

Motivating and funding an attempt to make a respectable disclosure documentary is not cheap. Underbudget films don't get positive attention.
"As a rule of thumb, a lot of producers assume that a finished corporate production or high-quality YouTube video will cost about $1,000 per finished minute of footage. From there, you can extrapolate the final cost based on length. A 60-minute documentary will therefore cost $60,000."- https://www.wideawakefilms.com

[aoibhghaire]

Regarding Paola Harris presentation of the San Antonia, NM 1945 UFO crash at the Disclosure meeting and the subsequent book published by Harris and Vallee is completely unsubstantiated. Vallee’s discernment of this case needs to be heavily questioned.

Don Schmidt and team investigated this non-case 25 years ago. The principle witness approached Don Schmidt with one story back at that time and since then, an entirely new circumstance, date, location, and shock of all shocks, Vallee has apparently fallen for it.

A case with two young brothers as the sole witnesses and not an additional source to substantiate. Don Schmidt’s team were also involved with the artifact provided by the one brother, Ray Baca, and it was tested in Ohio and found to be 100% terrestrial.

Timing is everything and why this book and these unsubstantiated claims now? The legitimate American UFO community is almost unanimous in rejecting the substance of this book. A book, I might add, which is heavily endorsed by Greer. That in itself, speaks volumes.

aoibhghaire

[JDarktide]

Regarding Paola Harris presentation of the San Antonia, NM 1945 UFO crash at the Disclosure meeting and the subsequent book published by Harris and Vallee is completely unsubstantiated. Vallee’s discernment of this case needs to be heavily questioned.

Don Schmidt and team investigated this non-case 25 years ago. The principle witness approached Don Schmidt with one story back at that time and since then, an entirely new circumstance, date, location, and shock of all shocks, Vallee has apparently fallen for it.

A case with two young brothers as the sole witnesses and not an additional source to substantiate. Don Schmidt’s team were also involved with the artifact provided by the one brother, Ray Baca, and it was tested in Ohio and found to be 100% terrestrial.

Timing is everything and why this book and these unsubstantiated claims now? The legitimate American UFO community is almost unanimous in rejecting the substance of this book. A book, I might add, which is heavily endorsed by Greer. That in itself, speaks volumes.

aoibhghaire

Some pretty bold arrogant statements here. There is not enough to just call them liars and dismiss them outright. Calling someone a liar does not validate your point. I have not read the book but my issue here is with the statement "endorsed by Greer speaks volumes". A Greer endorsement is a positive for many. Whom I guess you may feel are below you. Now if it were a Luis Elizondo endorsement (known CIA operative and disinformation officer) few would give it a second glance. So this guy Don Schmidt says there is no case? That's not enough to invalidate. My issue is that I have personally experienced some of Dr. Greer's claims, so have many others, have a bit of video too if you are interested. I'm just an average guy here but when people come out attacking Greer guns blazing for no solid reason, or use passive-aggressive attacks, it feels like misinformation. The more he is attacked the more I think he is on to something. Why not say "I don't believe the claims of Greer and all the others"? That would be just fine and accepted. I normally just ignore posts like this, like many others, but had to put in my thought. To imply anyone who disagrees with you is not part of the "legitimate American UFO community" is childish. We in the UFO community are used to people like you passively and directly "hinting" that we are ilegitimate.

[aoibhghaire]

I had previous corresponded with Don Schmidt about this case whom is a friend of mine. He was surprised that Vallee was involved in this case as it had unsubstantiated claims. Although Vallee’s focus is investigating meta material which he had experience from previous UFO crash sites.

Stephen Greer was not known to have investigated this San Antonio case according to Schmidt. I suppose when Harris gave her presentation at the Disclosure 2.0 and that the book was just published, Greer should have checked with others independently that the case was a non-case. Hence my point about Greer’s credibility. May be he assumed that with Vallee on the investigation it must be real.

Although I do admire Greer for all the amazing work over the years pioneering the ET issue from the famous 2001 Press Club meeting and his films. The are other sides known that are not credible which is a surprise when considering all the wonderful work he has done.
Hence my latter statement on Greer.

aoibhghaire

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Some might already know of the 'history' I have had with the so called data released by Dr Greer as solely his own, but not acknowledging it was indeed MY data as released globally between 1994-2000. Dr Greer for his own reasons decided to ignore the data I passed him in 2000 and instead started using self same data as his own years later (still doing so). For those not familiar with this situation I can only recommend some research and trawling of the internet. I will post links here to my youtube channel which has a few updated teaser vids. The blogs I archived in 2015/16 carry much more data but thats for another time. Do not get me wrong, I respect Greer for all he has done for disclosure, even though he threw me under the bus.


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8puBidB-NbJ3b7hJrKk_jA

https://www.youtube.com/user/THEVOICEOFDISCLOSURE/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/THEVOICEOFDISCLOSURE/playlists

https://www.youtube.com/user/THEVOICEOFDISCLOSURE/about

[SPIRIT WOLF]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/193365406@N04/51281697552/in/dateposted-public/

[SPIRIT WOLF]

This few minute segment of Dr Greer's talk in Barcelona in 2009 covers the stagecraft aspect, nicely goes into ARVs and our dear little friends the PLFs (PGLFs)..................he states this is the most important aspect, and one he alleges he receives the most threats over, welcome to the club matey(from the one whom originally brought this to the World).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mu97-HQT78

[Denise/Dizi]

Long post alert, this thread got under my skin.. Sorry ahead of time...

I believe that Greer has done what most in the "field" dream they can accomplish. How he did it, well that could be deemed unethical at best, but he did it with help from many people. Whether with their permission or not... And yet few know the names of those individuals. He rarely if ever, shares the names of his sources, because to do so, suggests that the material is merely lifted from their own information, and shared as Steven's.

Many do this.. And I bet it is work! Keeping that all nicely tidy... But the truth is, we all want to know these details. The sad thing is that Greer has had the funds to capitalize on this, as he had the resources to go more places than most, to gather more information. He is a pro at "Name Dropping"... Probably making more feel comfortable sharing their information with him...

Therefore, making him the "Top Dog" when it comes to having "Information", or "Stories" to tell... What is truly worrisome, is his slant towards the non aggressive nature of these beings. Just because they do not come and wipe out our city blocks, does not mean they're kind.. Why "upset the hive" when you can slowly replace the Queen Bee, and keep the structure going? It would seem a more advanced being would recognize the slave force already in place here on the planet, and not wish to disrupt that while taking over.

But there are plenty of recounts of people being taken, never returned, impregnated, and treated as nothing more than free wombs, etc...

Is this happening? Perhaps. Seems likely given the advance in AI, and the seemingly exhausting means they're going to, to get technology both into our hands as well as inside our bodies. So "Outwardly Hostile?" Maybe not, but it doesn't mean we haven't already been taken hostage. And sometimes a lighter hand, is an easier choice... And a more effective one. It reminds me of people boiling frogs. If you put them into a pot of water that is scalding, they jump out.. BUT if you place them in a cold pot, and slowly warm it up......

I can see why others do not care much for Greer, he cannot, if he wishes to stay on top, share the knowledge that he has done what everyone of the newer researchers are doing... Collecting data from others, then discarding the sources as he takes that, and adds it to the long list of others he has done that to... Leaving those people with little more than a tiny percentage of what Greer can share. The more information you get, the bigger the billing.

Danger in this? What danger? He claims he was offered Millions, if not more, people were silenced or killed, yet he is not worried? Was it those that first revealed the "truths", that truly were in harms way? Now that it is too late, the powers that be probably just let him continue, because they believe he sounds more ridiculous the more he speaks? As long as he paints them as "Positive"... It almost seems as if he welcomes the New World Order... He seems to know all the players, and talks to them often.. This isn't noteworthy in the way we think it is, it should be worrisome that he speaks of going to meet these players personally, as if they're all good friends.. I believe he even mentions being with the Rockefellers, red flag if I ever heard one.. Not more supportive to his claims they're kind and gentle.

I tend to believe Greer has chosen a side. And that he has been working for someone else all along. Helping to steer a narrative. If they can't stop disclosure when they slip up, what a good plan it is to have someone with his ego to take everyone else's knowledge and twist it just a bit to steer the narrative? If they can't stop it, better they have someone they can direct, and help to promote, to do it their way? And sure, he gets money to do this. Large amounts as far as I can tell, but I bet if no one financially supported his efforts, he would still somehow be able to produce the things he does.

Barry King came out and shared his information, things that no one else was suggesting, and publishing information, documents, and photos... and Greer pulled that information into his work and made disclaimers that this was happening in many locations, and leaving out the location that Barry was suggesting, where he learned the information. He claims that he has whistleblowers, yet never names them.. When he does, it is to those he works with within his inner circle, and those that he can woe people with, because of name recognition. I bet this has frustrated a great number of people, truly putting their own lives at risk, their reputations on the line, and their families safety at risk, yet they're disposed of, and mocked when they get frustrated about the scene overall..

Look at how many people got upset when Corey Goode did the same thing to unknowing people who shared their own information. People were enraged by that. Yet Greer has made a career out of it. Same thing, just different level of backing. I say we challenge Greer to produce these "Other" whistleblowers... There have been a few who have come out and openly suggested tht they did NOT agree with the account Dr. Greer gave of their meetings. One saying he ballooned a lunch into something it wasn't in his presentations. Someone who had a big name. I forget the person now but I bet some have come across that as well and can add that to this post.

I doubt Greer truly is being asked to "Brief" sitting presidents, he probably offers to come speak to them.. To tell them where he stands in his mission to groom the masses... Regular country doctors don't "Brief Presidents" just because they once held a press conference. Spies do...

By the way, a press conference that went where? Onto VHS? Did the general public watch this on ABC, CBS, or NBC, the major networks at the time? NOPE... A press conference is NOT disclosure. When it isn't aired in it's entirety and shared with the masses, as it happens, like the Moon Landings and true events that the public needs to know.. Like 9/11. I was around in 1990, never heard a thing about the Disclosure Project and Press Conference on the news...

Truth is, he got the information from whistleblowers, cherry picked it, and is sharing it, but that does not mean the information is his, just that he is sharing their experiences with this phenomenon, or their work in these projects as "HIS".. For example he notes that the Programmable Life Forms are being created in America and another country, but never does he mention the Peasemore Base. Distancing himself from Barry's material.

And while the Press Conference and the "Disclosure Project" happened, and he may have had a big hand in making sure everyone showed up? The information was not his, but the information of the individuals standing up at the podium telling their recounts of their own circumstances and situations, including in many cases, radar returns and more "Proofs"....

You cannot sell what belongs to someone else, so rather, he claims that the whistleblowers are his, or better yet, they gave him some information in confidence, and that information is now his to share merely by gleening it from those individuals. Truly it is really nothing worse than what is already happening to the "Truth" movement. Where someone tells their story and another makes videos sharing their learning of said information as if it is their own personal accounts, or investigational research material...

VERY FEW, IF ANY are doing any real research these days, they're merely re-investigating, or regurgitating claims other have made in the past over and over. How many people have shared their own "Personal works" regarding the accounts of Bob Lazar? How many earned an income sharing Bob's story? Debating if it was true or false? This whole scene is wrought with people doing this, and claiming they're helping in some way, "The Disclosure Movement"..

While I do not agree with Greer's methods, or fully, his message, as I do believe there is some good out there, but not all, as he claims.... Truly is this modern "Truth Movement" much better? Rather than come up with more truths people have gone to the low hanging, and "Safe" fruit... Merely rehashing the works and claims of others, calling that "New Material"... "New Disclosure".. They're doing a great job of setting the bar low, and making it even more difficult to get any real truth, as little has truly been released in decades. I mean, we are still talking about Bob Lazar...

It's sad really.

By the way.. One more thing... The Alien war card... That the military industrial complex is going to claim that aliens are hostile so we better fund the works of the military industrial complex to starve off a future war. Because we all know they're "Nice" now right? Greer says so... So we need to believe that...

Well, he puts this into a very very slim box, claiming Werner Von Braun claimed it, and shared it with Carol Rosin. Perhaps this is true.. But this is ONE PERSON sharing their opinion with another, and Greer is using this one statement as his entire basis for why we should believe that all aliens are to be trusted and that we shouldn't trust our own military. In fact we are to believe that it isn't et at all doing things to the masses, rather midgets, and Programmable Life Forms. I do believe these programmable life forms exist... But do I believe it is because the military wants to tag us all? Perhaps they're doing it to track where we go when the truly "Not so nice et" kidnap the masses?

Why does everyone believe the only narrative being fed to us? Because perhaps people forgot that there could be other reasons. Perhaps they're doing it to give it a more "Local" feel, so the masses can get upset with humans, while the humans are desperately trying to give it a more Earthly feel, so they do not realize that indeed there ARE aliens taking people, tagging them like cattle. Etc.

THAT would scare the masses more, to think that et were doing it. Or maybe they're mimicking the et behavior so we do not realize et actually live among us. "Taking one on the chin" so to speak to cover up the real episodes... NOTHING is as black and white as Greer would have you believe. Perhaps we copied life forms or cloned beings we got from the crashes...

Whatever the truth is, I doubt Greer is the knowledge holder of such information. And as such, while he does have some good production value, I do believe it is still useful to read true accounts of experiences that happened BEFORE the internet was a sensation, and listen to what those people were saying..

The "Friendship case" where giants came to earth... Where little people joined them.. The stories of greys, the stories of Giants in Mexico and South America where et came and stole women, ate people, etc. Not so pretty as Greer would have us believe.

I would rather have a well armed military should anything happen, than a bunch of people joining hands in a circle if things get ugly. That's really what I am trying to get to here.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Absolutely first class Denise, great post:bigsmile:

[JDarktide]

From the "flying shields" of the dark ages.. To the "tic tac's" of now... You would think if they were hostile, we would have seen it by now. Or are they waiting for the right moment? Do our politics matter to advanced civilizations? Who knows where Greer stands at the end of it all. I do know that the "bad guys" are not the ones calling for peace most the time. Its normally the bad guys calling for paranoid actions and violence. *cough TTSA* I believe him on the "non-hostile" perspective unless someone can point out a hostile action taken. I mean, we have been recording them floating around for at least 2k years? (see ancient paintings, artwork, and testimony) I don't think we can say that abductions count if all the evidence Greer has put forward that those are our own governments is true. Stop and think about that one for a moment... Why would an advanced civilization need to abduct and abuse humans over and over again for the past 70 years? Humans are very special and they can learn something different by taking large samples? The "Friendship case" was brought up here. Read the book of Enoch, it explains a lot. At the end of it all, I'm on the side of whatever is true. Greer's claims make the most sense. (unless you just watched the movie Independence Day and feel that aliens want your water) In the event that they are actually hostile and after a acouple thousand years they decide they need to destroy humans, the idea of a "well-armed military" of humans to do anything about it is laughable. Let us hope they are not hostile. If it comes out for sure that they are not hostile, this forum will probably die unless there is some new type of "fear porn" to spread.

[Denise/Dizi]

From the "flying shields" of the dark ages.. To the "tic tac's" of now... You would think if they were hostile, we would have seen it by now. Or are they waiting for the right moment? Do our politics matter to advanced civilizations? Who knows where Greer stands at the end of it all. I do know that the "bad guys" are not the ones calling for peace most the time. Its normally the bad guys calling for paranoid actions and violence. *cough TTSA* I believe him on the "non-hostile" perspective unless someone can point out a hostile action taken. I mean, we have been recording them floating around for at least 2k years? (see ancient paintings, artwork, and testimony) I don't think we can say that abductions count if all the evidence Greer has put forward that those are our own governments is true. Stop and think about that one for a moment... Why would an advanced civilization need to abduct and abuse humans over and over again for the past 70 years? Humans are very special and they can learn something different by taking large samples? The "Friendship case" was brought up here. Read the book of Enoch, it explains a lot. At the end of it all, I'm on the side of whatever is true. Greer's claims make the most sense. (unless you just watched the movie Independence Day and feel that aliens want your water) In the event that they are actually hostile and after a acouple thousand years they decide they need to destroy humans, the idea of a "well-armed military" of humans to do anything about it is laughable. Let us hope they are not hostile. If it comes out for sure that they are not hostile, this forum will probably die unless there is some new type of "fear porn" to spread.

Thank You so much for sharing your opinions, because it matters that we discuss this...

Actually, unlike some, I do study the past. I study artwork of the past, and even more recent artwork which depicts craft firing upon Earth. As recently as the 1800's. Paintings showing buildings in ruins with saucer like craft shooting some sort of beam to the ground, hitting these structures. Long before we really had any aircraft worthy of note... among many many other things...

I also read... Ancient texts speak of star beings, the Bible, offers stories of Gods coming from the Heavens, Burning bushes, etc... While I am not religious, I believe these texts say a lot that we need to know, if we truly read them properly... There are many texts, speaking of things that mimic what we believe would be technology. We hear of "trumpets sounding" and entire castles, and their walls falling to the ground. That's one powerful horn... Sounds more like a sound or vibration weapon than a horn...

That doesn't sound like us, it sounds like a more advanced race firing upon us... Yes there are images of these craft in many ancient pieces of artwork, but without much said about their actions while there. Even the Bible suggests that beings came from the Heavens and "took" all they wished, to be their "wives" to bear them children, just as we have the phenomenon of spoof pregnancies that disappear after abductions now... , and they still speak of this happening in South America... And images of beings in "Star craft" that look anything but human... They're also in many of the paintings and images you speak of.

This sounds like human kidnapping, and insemination, not at all friendly... and we now have people speaking out telling of meeting their "Star Children".. Crazy people? That many? Have you read, or watched the work of Bud Hopkins? Karla Turner? And all the others that have done work with the title of "Dr." in this field that suggest what they're learning is horrible? Going so far as to now force humans to teach "hybrids" how to live on Earth? If replacing humanity is friendly, then I cringe.

I am not saying Dr. Greer is wrong, but there are also many stories of SOME of these craft engaging aircraft, military, commercial, and private alike, and challenging them mid air, while turning off their equipment somehow. Sometimes with catastrophic consequences. Rumor is, (And I believe that is the best we get in this community).. That the military ordered their pilots to stop firing on them, as they were losing too many pilots to these "Dogfights"... And it would appear they learned how to drop some of the craft using advanced radar developments in exchange for face to face confrontations.. And hopes of recovering some of that advanced technology to level the playing field.

I want to believe "A Stranger at the Pentagon", where a nicely mannered Venusian comes with a group and tries to offer the world problem solvers for our planet.. But what I am seeing is that we are not only creating said technology, we are sharing it, under the radar in mass. We have militaries all "cross training" on every continent, for some purpose. Some want to believe the NWO is going to use other armies of the world to attack different continents, yet I tend to believe they're advancing all the armies for a far greater purpose, to protect us "Just in Case" that day comes when they stop being "Polite" and truly may come to cause some harm.

So those from Venus are nice and friendly... Who says there aren't beings on the Moons of Mars that hate us from some prior war? Truly we really don't even know how we got here. Certainly it wasn't evolution as we know it, and if it was, we sure got spanked in the past, that we have to relearn how to rebuild structures we cannot even mirror today, both in complexity and design... SOMEONE destroyed the previous civilizations, and it looks to me like it happened from the air.

So if this is considered "Friendly" I must not understand the word. As I do not think it was that long ago that we went through something like this, and perhaps will again soon.

For the record, and this may surprise you..... I have had contact experiences, and they were FRIENDLY.. I am not "Against" anyone.... I just tend to believe that our history isn't what we were told, massive amounts of information lost, much replaced with new stories of those who were in power at the time..

There are stories of "star people" bringing people to Earth, and visiting Earth throughout mankind... Helping us in fact... As you noted.. I want to believe they're friendly, who wouldn't? Especially given the claims of what their technologies can do...

But I fail to fall into the camp that ALL of them are friendly. What is "Friendly" about abducting people, without their consent, and taking biological samples? Just because they returned them in one piece, they mean no harm? What of the tellings of those craft that fired upon the military during many wars?

What I am saying is that a healthy dose of comparing their capabilities to our own, in case things ever get worse than they already are, is NOT a bad idea.

Play friends until you are strong enough to force them to stop harming people.. THAT is probably closer to the truth. Greer himself is now making videos suggesting that he is trying to get Lou from TTSA to change his tune, or we should IGNORE his work, as it is jaded. Why should we believe they are not a threat, because Greer says so? I DOUBT that the entire military industrial complex is keeping secrets just to line their pockets, as they take oaths to protect US. And I am sure they know some things they believe it is better that they just defend against rather than freaking out the masses. "Just in case"...

What if it is as simple as Germany and their secret space program. And their population, and superior technology, finally growing to the point where they believe they could retake the world for their own? (And of course Von Braun would warn against this, being he was a Nazi, as he wouldn't want us to support fighting back against his side)...

We don't know what we don't know. That is all I am saying. The universe is a large place, and with the ruins, and all the skeletal remains on this planet of different types of humanity, it makes you wonder where they all went. And are we next if we don't "Fall into line"? Perhaps we had a reason to stay "Warlike".. Perhaps the wars we see on the news aren't at all what we are told, but pockets of ET coming here and causing problems. That would explain a lot of arms trafficking.

I am just asking people to reserve their ultimate analysis of anything until we have more proof of TRUTH.

I would never have known 9/11 happened if my television didn't show it.. So what if the televisions never show mass extinction events in communities.. Because it would horrify the masses? Doesn't mean it can't happen, or hasn't. In fact our history shows many places where all of the residents just vanish without a trace. Civilizations, with no hint of where they all went. Like the Mayan people that are now scattered throughout South America...

But a lot of destruction was left in the wake, with what seemed to be tech we didn't possess. Someone could kill your neighbor 3 feet behind your bedroom wall if you lived in an apartment, and if you heard nothing, that doesn't mean it never happened. I am just saying, we do not have all the facts, so I prefer to err on the side of caution.

If anyone else would like to jump into the conversation it would be great we actually discuss this in a civilized manner...

Greer's platform seems to be, "Be nice to them and they will give us technology to cure the world"... This seems too much like "They" believe a few shiny baubles will pacify a planet into accepting beings we know nothing about. Including their intentions. And I have met plenty of "Nice and friendly" snake oil salesmen who really had alternative motives with their friendliness.

Rumor has it these et are very intelligent, and they know our weaknesses, and easily could make us believe they were friendly.. Until they weren't..

[Mike Gorman]

The Cosmic Hoax has just been released by Stephen Greer, it is Free and openly available on YouTube: 1D9WcrJWpNk

The overtly paranoid tone of the recent 'disclosure' narrative is ramping up, this is clearly their platform: these craft are blatantly violating the sovereign air-space of the USA, they fly with impunity
they 'harass' American vessels and demonstrate vastly superior performance, they are a direct threat.They even mess with our nuclear weapons!
I always supported Bob Dean's assertion that if these visitors were truly hostile, if they wanted to kill us all off, they could have 'cleaned our clock' centuries ago.
My personal feeling on this is not always clear: I think there is a massive part to this story which we do not know!
The history of visitation is considerable, 'Watchers' and the sense that we are somehow nurtured and observed from a discrete distance is very strong.
Typically, we will respond with fear, and hostility - perhaps a tempered caution is justified, I agree, but I feel we are about to learn much more; I doubt there is much we can do about it in the long run.

[oz93666]

From the "flying shields" of the dark ages.. To the "tic tac's" of now... You would think if they were hostile, we would have seen it by now. Or are they waiting for the right moment? Do our politics matter to advanced civilizations? Who knows where Greer stands at the end of it all. I do know that the "bad guys" are not the ones calling for peace most the time. Its normally the bad guys calling for paranoid actions and violence. *cough TTSA* I believe him on the "non-hostile" perspective unless someone can point out a hostile action taken. I mean, we have been recording them floating around for at least 2k years? (see ancient paintings, artwork, and testimony) I don't think we can say that abductions count if all the evidence Greer has put forward that those are our own governments is true. Stop and think about that one for a moment... Why would an advanced civilization need to abduct and abuse humans over and over again for the past 70 years? Humans are very special and they can learn something different by taking large samples? The "Friendship case" was brought up here. Read the book of Enoch, it explains a lot. At the end of it all, I'm on the side of whatever is true. Greer's claims make the most sense. (unless you just watched the movie Independence Day and feel that aliens want your water) In the event that they are actually hostile and after a acouple thousand years they decide they need to destroy humans, the idea of a "well-armed military" of humans to do anything about it is laughable. Let us hope they are not hostile. If it comes out for sure that they are not hostile, this forum will probably die unless there is some new type of "fear porn" to spread.

Any ET's interacting at this time are definitely malevolent ... They have always been here manipulating society enslaving us (see von daniken ... zacharia sitchen) .. Spreading plagues creating wars ..

Aliens, Plagues and Epidemics
Ancient Aliens episode (season 3, episode 7)

Experts investigate reports of strange bronze flying ships spotted during the Black Death. Could aliens have brought deadly disease to Earth?

They are still here now , secretly manipulating society using the illuminati as a front ... They have been working with the US military building the SSP , they control it and are planning to use it to attack humanity ....

They have purposefully waited until we are technologically developed before this attack ... it will make a better fight for their entertainment ... Earth's military still does not stand a chance ... but before all this there will be the arrival of apparently friendly ET's offering to save us from ourselves , they're all in the same gang.

[Mike Gorman]

Disagree, this hysterical fear driven response looks eerily similar to the lynch mob mentality of the early 20th Century, it might give you a bit of an ego boost to try and convince people on a forum but this topic is bigger than all of us.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Have just finished watching Greers latest blockbuster whilst compiling lists of chores for later today. Interesting as usual but of course with the Greer slant. Having been hands on within ufology for over 5 decades, official and unofficial coupled to whistleblowing since the 90's I can see perhaps parts others cannot, simply because of my direct involvement. We have to be very careful here, randomly saying Ufo's and ET are hostile or benign will get you nowhere other than silly heated arguments on forums such as this.

Personally since early childhood I have seen, experienced many many things and could equally class some as positive, some as negative, BOTH though had an underlying current of military involvement in varying degrees. Not all UFO's are theirs neither are they all ours, its a mixture of both.

The main point here is Disclosure in one form or another will not, cannot happen, watered down press conferences with little coverage, supposed official Government reports which state nothing of any real importance will keep the open debate going on for years, decades even.

Its all a psy-op within a psy-op.

[oz93666]

The main point here is Disclosure in one form or another will not, cannot happen, watered down press conferences with little coverage, supposed official Government reports which state nothing of any real importance will keep the open debate going on for years, decades even.

Its all a psy-op within a psy-op.

Well said Spirit Wolf ...With all those decades you've put in of investigation and personal experience things are still murky , it's a very difficult subject to fully grasp when looking from the outside in ...

I would strongly recommend the work of Karl Mollison ... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg18_LahHDHQZi7LYGbkS3Q/videos .. the information comes from a non conventional source , but that maybe needed to crack this issue , the resulting theory explains all the evidence we see .

[Le Chat]

What is "Friendly" about abducting people, without their consent, and taking biological samples? Just because they returned them in one piece, they mean no harm? What of the tellings of those craft that fired upon the military during many wars?

And the horrific animal mutilations? Far from 'friendly'.....

[JDarktide]

Here is a link for those interested. In case the youtube link goes bad.

The Cosmic Hoax: An Exposé

https://banned.video/watch?id=60e2654cd9401b415996bb4c

[Denise/Dizi]

I cannot say that I know the truth, or even a small part of it, just what I experienced. And again, it was "Friendly"... But one has to assume there are more than just a few races out there besides the nice ones.

I am just saying much time is spent trying to steer a narrative that they're either "Nice" or they're "Hostile"... I believe the truth is both... So I am just appealing to those who are willing to put their egos aside, and not pick any side, or form any concrete conclusions until we actually have some real facts.

It may be true that Bob Dean, as well as many others have met the friendlies... As well as Greer, and myself included, but this doesn't mean that they're all friendly, and I was warned that this is not the case, to some of them we are nothing more than a resource, including a meal.

That comment alone was enough for me to remain on the fence about who I choose to support as a "Friendly". We are not yet ready to be engaging any of them in my opinion. We lack the knowledge, the ability to truly defend ourselves if something should go wrong, yet we have them violating our air space, and while seemingly they're just "Showing off", this doesn't mean that hostilities have never broken out.

One assumes the entire planet must be destroyed to mark some "Hostility".. I just want to remind people that until we know, we cannot decide to be aloof about the intentions of any visitor.

[aoibhghaire]

Just watched Steven Greer's latest documentary, The Cosmic Hoax: An Expose.

Like with all of his films, they are slickly put together and look very professional. This is no exception.

Let's look at the content and who is in it.

The original 2001 Disclosure conference was a good idea, high calibre witnesses brought together.

The world is heading for a false flag 'alien invasion' scenario. Really, I don't see it. If it were, it would be on the news all the time, it isn't, therefore I don't see this impending scenario.

Is there a potential air safety threat caused by UFOs? Technically yes, but is the world trembling with fear? No, it isn't. Again, I don't see this being portrayed in the media enough to justify his claims.

Is there a need to turn down the threat rhetoric, yes there is, but not like this in my opinion.

Paola Harris says at the end, only you (Greer) can do this..... Really? Greer becoming emotional.

Carol Rosin, is there any written documentation to corroborate her claims of Werner Von Braun?

The film features Rick Doty, someone I would not trust regarding anything he says. He has no credibility within the subject from my perspective.

According to Doty and Greer all the world's abduction/contact stories are carried out by humans with abnormalities. Really?

According to Doty and Greer all the world's animal mutilation cases have been perpetrated by humans. Really?

Daniel Sheehan, an esteemed lawyer, who is now legally representing Luis Elizondo over his dispute with the Pentagon, appears in this documentary which is highly critical of Elizondo and his main associate, Chris Mellon? What's that all about?

All in all, it is another slick production weaving of fact and fiction into what is for me a very dubious narrative.
I have no doubt it will rake in a lot of money from is large, faithful band of followers.

As for CE5, I used it back in 1992, but later found much better tools for communications with others. Some of the later CE5 group meetings were faked in some circumstances. I believe that he has made huge amounts of money from taking groups out into the middle of nowhere and charging people a lot of money to take part in them. For me, that's something of a red flag.

[aoibhghaire]

In his video Steven Greer's latest documentary, The Cosmic Hoax: An Expose. Greer insists on "the false UFOs".

What we must remember is what he says at the end:

- He recommends reading the next book by Jacques Vallée
- He suggests that people learn to contact extraterrestrials by meditating.

There are photographs where we see him leading a meditation session, calling extraterrestrials to manifest themselves.
In these conditions, there is a technology that allows one or more UFOs to appear and then disappear at night, to move at fantastic speeds, accompanied by sudden right-angle turns. Greer has been known to fake some encounters using flares, but there are other sophisticated technologies if one is working for authorities, therefore complicit to spearhead an agenda.

And all this in the greatest silence, so obviously these evolutions seem to be carried out at a hypersonic speed.

In plasma physics it is enough to make two beams of microwaves of frequencies N1 and N2 cross each other, such that the difference of the frequencies N1 - N2 corresponds to the optimum to ionize the air. We thus make a plasma ball, of any shape, in the atmospheric air, at high altitude. By sweeping the sky with these beams one gives the impression "that an object moves" whereas it is equivalent to the spot of light produced by a lamp on a ceiling.

But if Greer succeeded in "making a UFO appear" during a meditation session, the witnesses will be convinced that it works and that it is the right thing to do. They will do it and while they are doing it they will not disturb anyone.

Question: "Is Greer an accomplice or a victim of such manipulation? "

[Dennis Leahy]

Just watched Steven Greer's latest documentary, The Cosmic Hoax: An Expose.

Like with all of his films, they are slickly put together and look very professional. This is no exception.

Let's look at the content and who is in it.
...

...all the world's abduction/contact stories are carried out by humans with abnormalities. Really?

... all the world's animal mutilation cases have been perpetrated by humans. Really?
...

Abductions and mutilations have never made any sense to me as being done by an alien species. It's such a human M.O. Humans are the species that investigates living things by killing them and dissecting them. We're supposed to believe that these aliens are far technologically superior to humans, but act just like dumbass humans when it comes to investigating life forms by wielding a scalpel and a chainsaw?

I also would not doubt that the majority of alien contact stories are really human (clandestine) in origin. Not all (do Greer and Doty really say "all?"), but I'd guess it is true in all cases where the aliens are 'remembered' as acting just like human malevolent sociopaths.

[Ratszinger]

Just watched Steven Greer's latest documentary, The Cosmic Hoax: An Expose.

Like with all of his films, they are slickly put together and look very professional. This is no exception.

Let's look at the content and who is in it.
...

...all the world's abduction/contact stories are carried out by humans with abnormalities. Really?

... all the world's animal mutilation cases have been perpetrated by humans. Really?
...

Abductions and mutilations have never made any sense to me as being done by an alien species. It's such a human M.O. Humans are the species that investigates living things by killing them and dissecting them. We're supposed to believe that these aliens are far technologically superior to humans, but act just like dumbass humans when it comes to investigating life forms by wielding a scalpel and a chainsaw?

I also would not doubt that the majority of alien contact stories are really human (clandestine) in origin. Not all (do Greer and Doty really say "all?"), but I'd guess it is true in all cases where the aliens are 'remembered' as acting just like human malevolent sociopaths.

living in an area where these mutilations have taken place and after being involved in inspecting some of them since it happened on a friend's ranch, and since cows, horses and even some wild animals found appear to have been dropped from a great height something is for sure going on but it is very human in nature! Black choppers were seen, and I say that it's human for sure because aliens don't leave lens covers for scopes, zip ties, and other things like wrappers for gum and they don't lose paracord or keys all of which have been found on various ranches in OK, TX and AZ. It's been suggested that they are checking for evidence of food chain break down as they feel a bio attack would show up in the grain and grasses first hence examining cows.

[Dennis Leahy]

... [Greer]
- He suggests that people learn to contact extraterrestrials by meditating.
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Question: "Is Greer an accomplice or a victim of such manipulation? "

Just to be clear, I'm highlighting that what Greer is saying about the "disclosure" by the US government/military - that they have a hidden agenda (even further space/military buildup) - is consistent with the reality of the M.O. of the US military/government. He also recognizes and notes that hiding advanced (alien) technology is of the highest priority of the US military/government/Ameri-centric corporations, because it would destroy their control over humanity if and when the technologies are disclosed.

I don't care what Greer's favorite color is, who he sleeps with, or whether he is totally wrong about contacting aliens with meditation techniques. He said some powerful truth, and pointed fingers at the correct monsters and their very human agenda.

[thepainterdoug]

aoibhghaire / im on board with your review. let me add that the first thing that struck me was the jagged jump frame style of the film much like what jeremy corbell uses continually in his films.( perhaps he did it ? ) this kind of effect that attempts a credibility, like wrinkling new money in the dryer to make it look old, actually takes work. Why employ such an effect rather than telling a straight up flatfooted story. As P Harris said in the film, "this is not entertainment". Well yes, this special effect is, and completely unnecessary. So its entertainment. To me it also says that there is a belief that people will not watch and listen without it. Then Greer completely discredits millions of experiencers with his no abductions are real comments. I wouldnt doubt there are both, and I wouldnt doubt that there are so called good, and bad ET,s as well. The ocean has dolphins as well as sharks. There are no experts in this. However, on a less critical takeaway, I think we should proceed with peace in mind and not agression. and that is a good message

[Kryztian]

A statement on Facebook from Daniel Sheehan about Steven Greer's documentary:

https://i.imgur.com/muJNy1R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iHmWpzt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Y3ENcDi.jpg


Greer has to be the loneliest person in Ufology and is losing more friends every time he opens his mouth.

[Agape]

With retrospective on Barry Kings research and disclosure initiative - as some of you know he has been my close friend and supervisor for more than a decade before our respective family and medical situations took over- and the way any of our cases were treated , it’s a very complicated question, reasons behind which are mostly geopolitical and have nothing to do with “truth”.

I’m not shy of many subjects but speaking of geopolitics can turn dirty complicated.

Myself I’ve opted not to be part of any system when I was 19 years old and had the power and freedom to leave.

I knew almost nothing about the “world out there” but followed my quest for Truth , here to India and sages I hoped to meet and still had the chance to study with, almost 3 decades ago now and since but I’ve graduated since, in more than one way.

And when I say “here in India”, it’s where the world meets because Indian culture is traditionally hospitable and open minded so being here for many years I happened to meet worthy and interesting people from many countries and other cultures as well,
that’s before grand tourism took over and I turned too “people shy” since.

In gist, I always had some friends in the US and could appreciate their open minds and common sense among else.

After the ET encounter in Bodhgaya 2002 that was very explicit and contained lots of in-depth information including technical information I sat in monastery for another 3 years , 3 more years of meditation I was absorbed in before I ever decided to come out but my mum was ailing and after difficult surgeries and needed me the most so I’ve returned to Prague in 2005 ( and could not come back here for another 7 years ).

My focus on that special ET encounter and the information it contained is something I had to keep closed under tight lid, hoping to convey it “in one piece” to what I imagined to be international science group.

Such probably existed since long ago but not in open and I was not quite happy being mingled with the rest of the agenda.
The closest friends “in revelation” I found were on the www.ufocasebook.com site at that time though the internal group consisted mostly of “abductees” and not many “researchers”, we did not treat each other with prejudice which is important.

I have conveyed my information mostly to the US, later UK researchers since they were obviously far ahead in the “search for ET” and since I’m based in English it’s the easiest way for me to communicate so far.

That’s on the positive side but later on and since I had to stay in Prague for a while I understood that geopolitics is serious issue considering the location is extremely important in the game and falls into specific territory of each country.

It did not bother me before as my thoughts were with “benefit to humanity” and well, I was philosophy and meditation teacher , mostly before I’ve got to ETs ,
not a politician.

But I had the chance to understand the situation much better since and reasons why the case was treated as it was and for this and bigger reasons I’ve returned to India and can’t think of it any better now.

People are more tight to their political systems and way of thinking now than ever it seems to me. I don’t like being convinced that I’m “citizen” and have to work for this or that country.

I had the opportunity to visit many parts of the world through last 5 years and could have been turned to resident of Uruguay, Finland, the UK ( or naturally remain the simple Daft Ada forever bullied ..) but most of it would not resonate after some time and my life lessons were countless already compared to my age so I can’t take this burden on my mind of doing my research work and coping with geopolitics.

Bad for me I know , I may just vanish without trace, good for me, bad for you, who knows.



Just to remind you that the US is still currently winning the Space race and research and I trust that humanity will cooperate better in their scientific endeavours in future 🙏

It does not automatically disregard the rest of us and various pieces of the know-how we have.

In opinion of many of my good friends and despite my natural intelligence I’ve failed to make it any further.

Love this forum but not having own site it leaves me open to misunderstandings, need for repeating basics and mental bullying from people I know nothing about.

I’ve never earned a penny from the work we have done on this project and I’ve lost an ability to support myself otherwise.

I run this mission sometimes from zero funding, sometimes from $100 a month and hoping it soon comes to a resolve but I am not going to quit just because you don’t love me .


We all - most of us - come to this life and planet in a moment of selfless love of Life.
We grow surrounded and supported by love, equally , no matter where you come from.

We live from that love, for that love, we die for it.


The truth is far bigger than any human competition ever will be.

Even a moment of remembering the bigger truth in space and how advanced we really are replenishes my soul again. Here on Earth, dying is a must so is pain and suffering. We can’t do without seeing it everywhere around.
But we do have the option of reducing those sufferings and averting disasters ,
the core option of finding good and trustable friends and avoiding those who hurt us.


Most people involved in “conspiracy theory” aren’t Bill Ryan or Dr Greer, or Barry King for that purpose. Many of those involved pose as “experts” but skipped formal education and come to “practice freedom of speech” or writing essays on various blogs and websites and some can barely read and write well so they frequently misunderstand any longer context and sequence of facts and events.

Some get fast success but their intelligence proves to suffer decline later on so how could we ever agree on a point. Some people suffer from memory loss and others die.


It just reminds me of the value of 0 discovered in some Indian manuscripts in 4000 BC and me being here only thanks to that value because it also equals infinite.


Beyond the argument


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[SPIRIT WOLF]

Stop worrying needlessly Eva, no one is going to trash anyone's life experiences or encounters here, yours included. Life may have moved on for us all but right now we all need caution with this Global Pandemic and all its variants. We ALL need keep well and keep safe. Our 2010 report is still valid and kept safe and I believe still available to all whom wish to read it. You are in India, that seems, from recent news services, a VERY dangerous place. You keep well and safe especially.

Barry

[Agape]

Thank you 🙏 If you care, I was put into life threatening situation in Uruguay in 2018 by people claiming NSA connection. Most of my back ups were craftily dissolved by them during the two years I was working with them so as a matter of fact I have nowhere to return now unless I would have ALSO accepted being relocated, re-educated and basically forced married in Finland , later someone from the UK took over. Some details can be read easily in my Witness section thread.

Most obviously to them and I , I do not belong to the scheme and can’t be programmed or reprogrammed.
To any advanced thinker and experienced professional out there, it could be clear ( though it does not seem to be that way) that I was/have been frightened and I’m extremely wary of human contact. I also had “foreign agents” trying to take me on trip here in Dharamsala ( that’s before the pandemic started and most of them were casually evacuated, I presume).

Right now my phone battery is on go and I have about 2 of your Euros left , with no promise of any help from anyone , most of my decent friends were ousted by the NSA operation and the situation is ridiculously complicated to explain to anyone.

So yes I’m Covid safe , could get even vaccinated, no problem with that. We are not “dying for Covid” but the rest of us will simply perish in one or another humanitarian calamity and economic disaster whichever comes sooner.

India is about as safe as any other country presuming you are capable to control yourself and your environment and follow protocols.
Without funds though the situation is a near death because everything runs and hears to money and I’m not an animal ( or some kind of super hero) to survive out there in nature for long time.
We are in Himalayas, one of the cleanest zones in the world, yet you’re right, not safe.

🐨


Right now, following post-Covid unlocking of state borders we have suffered about two weeks of tourist invasion everywhere in Himachal Pradesh ( quite dangerous considering that the type of weekend tourists who come here have no regards for their own clean nature, they come in cars by thousands, leave lots of trash behind, eat and drink for 3 days, put loudspeakers on max etc.) , as soon as they left we suffered even more serious blow of heavy monsoon rains and cloudbursts, damaging roads and causing landslides .

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/city/shimla/heavy-rains-wreak-havoc-in-himachal-pradesh-highways-blocked/amp_articleshow/84360250.cms

Obviously, anyone with low conscience would be able to capitalise on the disaster which is absolutely not my case.

And further part of the tragic I’m facing : most of my friends around the globe are practically illiterate when it comes to real life situations. Such as they are unable to speak for me to anyone ( because themselves, in their safe boxes do not talk to each other) or organise simple crowdfunding campaign that would save life.

My friends everywhere, the Czechs, the Finns, the Brits and the Americans living in that last illusion of safety believing their system is smarter than all of us, residing in their disability to cope with real life are either “dyslexic”, themselves “frightened” or prefer to misunderstand.

To spare us the time of discussion, neither embassies or any governmental authority provide financial support in similar situation , the only support they give is legal and legislative, neither they can accommodate people etc.


It’s 1 to trillion $ situation of which I have the one.


I firmly believe that Dr Greer’s disclosure thread can bear the information and further, I want to believe I’m wrong and there is at least one or two intelligent individual reading this board who aren’t severely disabled.

If so please contact Bill Ryan or me by PM.

Countless thanks


🙏



PS: I can’t do any “documentary” with the current state of my iPhone battery that requires replacement but till it’s working and in case “proofs” of my location are welcome, I can take any trustable individual “out there” via Skype and show you around, for example.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Back on track..............................Regarding Dr Steven Greer, the CSETI and Disclosure Project. As previously mentioned I was filmed/interviewed for CSETI in Autumn 2000 by Miles Johnston and member of Dr Greer's team both here at home and at Woodbridge/Bentwaters. I was then contacted by two members of Dr Greer's Disclosure Project team whom were in Scotland whom wanted to film/interview me for the Disclosure Project itself. They stated I was already listed as a CSETI and Disclosure Project witness even without this second, separate interview. It was left as that, why I stopped the printed disclosure documents in December 2000

By the time the now legendary Press Club Disclosure Project in 2001 took place there were approx. 150 witnesses logged with the project (as stated). You will only see a small fraction of this number actually appear and give individual evidence on camera, the rest are unknown and unlisted. The official Disclosure Project 'book' details again a relatively small number of 'on record' witnesses and the majority of the 200+ then plus witnesses were again not detailed. The number of witnesses climbed during 2005/6 to around 550, with again only a small fraction were fully documented and details released openly. By the time this current film by Greer "The Cosmic Hoax" you will notice, at the end, that a figure of around 900 witnesses are mentioned. Once again no new faces or testimony is apparent, relying on same old few individuals, over 800 are still unlisted in detail and totally unknown even to the ufo community.

So to recap, I was interviewed for CSETI in 2000 and although not formerly filmed separately for the Disclosure Project I was listed, along with many others as a witness. That is why I used to have as my signature, A Disclosure Project Witness since 2000, because that is the case, like it or lump it folks.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mu97-HQT78&t=253s 2009 Dr Greer Barcelona PLF

[SPIRIT WOLF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0fOdkO_z0Watch this space

[oz93666]

I subscribe to "Wisegeek" . It just a company that sends interesting pieces of news each day to your email address , it's nothing to do with conspyracy or UFO's ...

I received this ....

According to the Pew Research Center survey nearly two-thirds of Americans believe in the existence of extraterrestrials. The survey was conducted shortly before the U.S. government released an unprecedented amount of intelligence on unidentified flying objects in 2021. Just over 50 percent of survey respondents say they consider military reports of UFOs to "probably" or "definitely" be proof of life beyond Earth.

The survey of 10,417 adults also found that 87 percent of people felt that such sightings are in no way a threat to national security. Only one out of 10 believed that there is a serious UFO threat ...

This is what Greer and the release of Navy footage is all about , shifting public opinion .By now the vast majority believe Aliens are buzzing around our atmosphere and 90% believe they are friendly ...

Watch 'V' the original mini series to see a close approximation of what is about to unfold


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QihkWmS7dTI

[Agape]

I have some beautiful photos of “portal” that moved over our heads last evening before and after sunset , twice. It was huge and moved very slowly and it did not seem either to communicate or affect us anyhow, except for the rain clouds completely disappeared for several hours so weather was clear, other than the “portal”.

Can send them by email if anyone is genuinely interested.


Thought of sharing with Dr Greer’s CE5 group but then I opened one of their beautiful emails and checked the newest offers and it took my breath.
It’s another “Galactic Ambassador” levelled preferences and information access scheme.

While we both and all agree it’s not what is it about , I do strongly suggest starting ordinary citizen science projects that will encourage people to take photos of interesting skies and aerial phenomena and upload them to websites,
freely.

Some other great citizen science projects helped to map Mars and the Moon or create seed banks.

A matter of planetary and civilisation importance to every human being,
every one including children should have equal information access to such matters.
While some claim to “own” a piece of Earth or portion of Heavens
no one can own the larger Universe or other entities and their worlds for themselves, ahead.

You may “own” Donald the Duck or Frodo the Troll but ...no one can own an ET Contact Company.


🙏

[ExomatrixTV]

1421090721755455489


source (https://twitter.com/DrStevenGreer/status/1421090721755455489)





UFO At The Chinese Embassy

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Gordon Creighton, Former British Foreign Service Officer. Mr. Creighton spent many years in the British Foreign Service. He spent 10 years in China and in 1941 he saw a UFO while at the Embassy. In broad daylight he saw a disc-shaped, silent UFO with a blue white light on top flying very fast. In 1953 he spent some time with the Military Defense in Whitehall and worked on the floor underneath a department, Air Technical, dealing with UFO's. He says that a UFO landed on the estate of Lord Mountbatten in the south of England near Southampton.

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20th Anniversary NPC:

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[Agape]

Behold the portal I’ve uploaded it to my avatar.

There was whole array of lenticular cloud ship objects passing into it over time. It’s edges were curved and decorative. The whole thing could have been giant 3D painting but , it seemed to have non linear grid, like a tunnel .
It travelled South to the Kangra valley bellow us but its downwards tip never touched grounds. It stopped there and then it silently travelled back to the North over our heads , after Sunset.

It was more a portal than “object” but it was definitely upto something



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[palehorse]

Not sure if someone posted it in another thread

The Cosmic Hoax - An Exposé
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[Patient]

Behold the portal I’ve uploaded it to my avatar.

There was whole array of lenticular cloud ship objects passing into it over time. It’s edges were curved and decorative. The whole thing could have been giant 3D painting but , it seemed to have non linear grid, like a tunnel .
It travelled South to the Kangra valley bellow us but its downwards tip never touched grounds. It stopped there and then it silently travelled back to the North over our heads , after Sunset.

It was more a portal than “object” but it was definitely upto something



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I wonder if they have weather modifying aircraft that large that could generate clouds and cloud cover around them as they move?

[AutumnW]

UAP News:

If the name Daniel Sheehan sounds familiar, it may be that you have heard it tied to Lue Elizondo as he is currently Lue’s legal counsel. He is a very intelligent lawyer and was involved with a UFO disclosure panel that included Dr. Steven Greer nearly 20 years ago. Now it sounds as though Dr. Greer has been acting in a somewhat shameful manner that involves Mr. Sheehan and he has published a letter admonishing Dr. Greer and clarifying some historical facts, which you can find directly from his Facebook post, HERE.

https://uap.news/7-16-21-daniel-sheehan-blasts-steven-greer/

[Agape]

Behold the portal I’ve uploaded it to my avatar.

There was whole array of lenticular cloud ship objects passing into it over time. It’s edges were curved and decorative. The whole thing could have been giant 3D painting but , it seemed to have non linear grid, like a tunnel .
It travelled South to the Kangra valley bellow us but its downwards tip never touched grounds. It stopped there and then it silently travelled back to the North over our heads , after Sunset.

It was more a portal than “object” but it was definitely upto something



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We are under heavy weather at the moment and since July, the heavens did not spare buckets of water pouring on our heads, unfortunately also causing lots of devastating landslides.

Buddhist nunneries deluged .. (https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/buddhist-nunneries-deluged-as-flash-floods-engulf-dharamsala)

I’ve sent photos to couple friends, failed to do the upload here, not in the easiest operational situation at the moment ( we are on 80% vertical slopes here just to imagine , so water and stones flow down easily, roads are broken and it takes about 5 minutes to get soaked wet).

The “portal” has happened on Sunday, in late afternoon hours of Indian Standard Time. Best photos taken at 7:30 PM.

It completely cleared the rest of the clouds as it was travelling fro and back.


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[Agape]

The recentest interview with Dr.Greer, received with gratitude 🙏💫🙏



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ADLKJ2rveY&feature=youtu.be

[JDarktide]

Posted 8.7.21

Skip to 2:17 for Dr. Greer.


https://banned.video/watch?id=610f16c2f5dfa435da624ad4

Enjoy!

[Agape]

Critical update: Miles Johnston nearly arrested ( but can’t discuss it on social media), told to shut up. Hard drives worth 20 years of work damaged.

Could well be the last pieces of information he can share for a while ( let’s not cry wolf, I don’t know what the case is but they mention possible inter agency game and set up - can land anyone in prison for completely made up accusations).

From Project Camelot Portal, last interview with Kerry Cassidy of Aug 24 2021.

https://projectcamelotportal.com/2021/08/25/miles-johnston-update-world-in-crisis-a-conversation/


Miles own mission positional statement:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2oEkRFP3-WA


My buttons are playing up, sorry, will fix embedding later.


From Dharamsala base camp,
birds and spirits of freedom



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[SPIRIT WOLF]

https://youtu.be/anaaQeD6uTU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anaaQeD6uTU

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anaaQeD6uTU

[SPIRIT WOLF]

TNVF cover............................47402

[SPIRIT WOLF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anaaQeD6uTU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIqSQHRL1dw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZRyokXx_tY

[Patient]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anaaQeD6uTU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIqSQHRL1dw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZRyokXx_tY

What is this for?

[SPIRIT WOLF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li6ZQZP6INI&lc=UgxKc1UKln1XbTKnvB94AaABAg

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anaaQeD6uTU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIqSQHRL1dw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZRyokXx_tY

What is this for?

These teasers should speak for themselves, they are FYI............................connect the dots from my history to present day then you might just click

[Agape]

I think that genuine piece of news would be extraordinary uplift under these global circumstances. As “in times of Universal deceit speaking the truth is revolutionary act”.

Even though locally we are at the end of the monsoon and everything is full of moisture and they are still removing the debris from roads flushed by big water, in short we are nowhere with it ..
and this all needs some very dry Martini whose time comes at the end of the year at the darkest nights, that’s when ETs come handy at the party 💫


Global stress level is still on the rise and that against our overall better conviction about the power of consciousness to bring the PTB to common sense at least,
their war seems to continue and escalate
and this being only September 2021.


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[Agape]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxreE3b6W0

“Not that I know what are they talking about but it just reminded me of one of yours” 😀

Happy Navaratri, Dussera, here on the 9th day we do Navagraha Puja,
short supplication to the lords of 9 planets.

Hope it’s a global phenomenon and everyone gets ever better soon after. I keep to noble silence rather fiercely as not wishing to swear ..




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