India Rural doctors braced for ‘devastating’ second wave as India’s workers flee cities

[Eric J (Viking)]

Why is the second wave in India much worse than other countries? What really is going on?

This is all over the news in U.K. are They priming us for another lockdown with Other variants ...

Scenes of migrant workers massing at bus and train stations, fleeing lockdowns in Indian cities for their villages, are ominous to doctors in the country’s hinterlands.

They know that many of those in the crowds will be returning with Covid-19 strains that are ravaging urban India, leading to record numbers of daily infections this week and the country’s highest daily death tolls since the virus emerged. In parts of rural West Bengal state, where politicians were holding mass election rallies until late this week, the surge has already started.

“Few hospitals in this region have vacant beds for patients right now, and some are refusing to admit patients, no matter how sick they are,” a physician at a government hospital in Birbhum, a district of 3.5 million people north of Kolkata, told the Guardian on Friday. He asked not to be named, fearing reprisals from authorities.

“Where I am working, I have seen a three-fold increase in the number of patients reporting breathlessness and other Covid-related symptoms in the past two or three weeks.”

Further reading...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/23/rural-doctors-braced-for-devastating-second-wave-as-indias-workers-flee-cities

Viking

[EarthGirl]

Viking I had heard about the 'Indian' variant, but I haven't watched the news for ages, I can't stomach their lies anymore.

Did you catch Dr Mike Yeadon explanation of variants?



Dr Mike checked the molecular biology and it's one of the largest viruses ever sequenced, 10,000 amino acids (the building blocks of protein)

"The most different variant, that I can find, is 27 amino acids away... so its 99.7% identical. The human immune system is much cleverer than that. It's impossible for a variant that differs by .3% to evade immunity"

Dr mike calls Bu****it...

"Get your baseball cap and put it on, your family knows you and loves you, so a .3% change in your appearance to mimic a variant means putting it on backwards"

"I'm just pointing out that a .3% change in a complex organism that is James Dellingpole or Mike Yeadon is now a different person is what the government are trying to get you to believe with these variants..."


Let's not forget this "plandemic" was never about our health it's always been about control over the population.

have you read this article....

https://www.sott.net/article/447151-Psychological-Attack-on-The-UK

The article you linked to is also written by the Guardian who have 'toed the line' throughout this last year, Is the doctor that doesn't want to be named working in a hospital funded the the 'Gates' cartel? (don't forget it's sounds more real and convincing if they add in a bit about him not wanting to be named)
As for the Government Doctor, well the government took the billion dollar bribe at the start of all this and have gone along with.

Fear is their best tool to frighten folk enough to go along with whatever they say.

The CIA did studies in the 60's where they took a group of people and repeatedly told them the same thing over and over again. It took just 2 weeks to ingrain in their psyches and get them believing what they had been told. Even when they were told it was all a lie, thanks to the repetition they'd endured, they refused to believe it was a lie at all.

So while there may be an element of truth to this article, mainly it's about maintaining the FEAR...

And they will use it to frighten people into believing it's not safe to be around people and these people will 'beg' to be 'locked up' again because they think the Government will look after them and care about them!








Why is the second wave in India much worse than other countries? What really is going on?

This is all over the news in U.K. are They priming us for another lockdown with Other variants ...

Scenes of migrant workers massing at bus and train stations, fleeing lockdowns in Indian cities for their villages, are ominous to doctors in the country’s hinterlands.

They know that many of those in the crowds will be returning with Covid-19 strains that are ravaging urban India, leading to record numbers of daily infections this week and the country’s highest daily death tolls since the virus emerged. In parts of rural West Bengal state, where politicians were holding mass election rallies until late this week, the surge has already started.

“Few hospitals in this region have vacant beds for patients right now, and some are refusing to admit patients, no matter how sick they are,” a physician at a government hospital in Birbhum, a district of 3.5 million people north of Kolkata, told the Guardian on Friday. He asked not to be named, fearing reprisals from authorities.

“Where I am working, I have seen a three-fold increase in the number of patients reporting breathlessness and other Covid-related symptoms in the past two or three weeks.”

Further reading...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/23/rural-doctors-braced-for-devastating-second-wave-as-indias-workers-flee-cities

Viking

[Bill Ryan]

Dr Mike checked the molecular biology and it's one of the largest viruses ever sequenced, 10,000 amino acids (the building blocks of protein)

"The most different variant, that I can find, is 27 amino acids away... so its 99.7% identical. The human immune system is much cleverer than that. It's impossible for a variant that differs by .3% to evade immunity"

There may be aspects of this that are not yet understood. It was established 9 months ago that people could get Covid twice, even just two or three months apart.

So the body's immune system, even in those in good shape, just doesn't always seem to do a good job here. See this characteristically excellent Chris Martenson video from July 2020:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyEBIpaIaM

[EarthGirl]

Thank you Bill I will add it to my listening list today

[Matthew]

India's news agencies report that their health ambassador died one day after receiving a vaccination (more details in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113668-Vaccination-Injuries-On-Record-for-Covid19&p=1423096&viewfull=1#post1423096))

The spike of deaths in India follows their Vaccination rollout which started 16th Jan 2021. Their deaths per million figure after 16th Jan exceeded the number of deaths per million during their covid spike 2020.

To use a well known expression, and if you will excuse my foul language: someone is taking the p***

https://twitter.com/VernonF31630714/status/1385691679420715014
@VernonF31630714
Replying to
@Demo2020cracy
I have contact with lots of friends in India, they are all saying the same thing - that the "pandemic" is staged, they are further stating they are being drip fed lies and propaganda that the UK has people dying in the street.

[s7e6e]

Bull****. P1 crap. They can't spray cyanide from airplanes so instead they need to trick us into killing ourselves.

[Adi]

DaveToo, I am sorry to say but the only absolutely ludicrous thing I see here is your comment. It is one thing being totally sceptical, which is fine, informative scepticism is always welcome.

But to say that the Indian Government is overreacting with an early shut down to try and slow down the virus spreading fast and furious amongst the 1.3 billion population is absurd.

Have you ever researched the living conditions of the population of India ? Obviously not.

I have been to India many many times. Unlike western families, the beautiful Indian families look after each other until the end of their lives.
Which means that one household will consist of great grandchildren, grandchildren, sons and daughters, mother's and father's, grandmother's and grandfather's all living together under one roof. With only one bedroom.

Therefore, Social distancing is impossible. And that is just one household, multiply that by hundreds of thousands with an uncontrollable virus, you have a disaster waiting to happen

Here is just one example a slum just outside Mumbai. Population 1 million. I am sure even you can see what a dangerous situation those good souls are in if the virus takes hold in just one slum. It would spread like wildfire, then quickly spread to all those living in comfortable skyscrapers next to them.
Africa is in the same situation.

Like I said. Informative scepticism is welcome. I say no more.
43051. 43052

43053. 43054

I entirely agree with this assessment. I have been pondering the potential proliferation of this virus in India, as of recent! If this thing gets a foothold there—drawing upon Italy for example—the outcome, to put it mildly, would be utter devastation for the Indian people. I will be following carefully what is going on there, as I have an uncomfortable 'sense' of how things, might, play out there. USA, also is not looking promising. High population density centres is an obvious indication—though China is pulling a fast one, in my respectful opinion.

Update 11th April 2020,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVe4RGpdgeE

India sees sharpest ever single-day spike in Covid-19 cases as nationwide total nears 7,500

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2020.04/article/5e914fd985f540093d43ec6e.JPG
https://on.rt.com/aeno



Updated 24th April 2021
Sorry to say the fears of this thing gripping India has unfortunately come to pass! It’s going to get a lot worse for these people!

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/why-india-is-facing-an-oxygen-crisis-covid-cases-mount-2021-04-23/
https://www.rt.com/news/521961-india-covid-global-daily-infections-record/

https://www.amarujala.com/india-news/oxygen-crisis-warned-parliamentary-committee-had-said-in-november-itself-increase-the-production-of-oxygen

[TomKat]

DaveToo, I am sorry to say but the only absolutely ludicrous thing I see here is your comment. It is one thing being totally sceptical, which is fine, informative scepticism is always welcome.

But to say that the Indian Government is overreacting with an early shut down to try and slow down the virus spreading fast and furious amongst the 1.3 billion population is absurd.

Have you ever researched the living conditions of the population of India ? Obviously not.

I have been to India many many times. Unlike western families, the beautiful Indian families look after each other until the end of their lives.
Which means that one household will consist of great grandchildren, grandchildren, sons and daughters, mother's and father's, grandmother's and grandfather's all living together under one roof. With only one bedroom.

Therefore, Social distancing is impossible. And that is just one household, multiply that by hundreds of thousands with an uncontrollable virus, you have a disaster waiting to happen

Here is just one example a slum just outside Mumbai. Population 1 million. I am sure even you can see what a dangerous situation those good souls are in if the virus takes hold in just one slum. It would spread like wildfire, then quickly spread to all those living in comfortable skyscrapers next to them.
Africa is in the same situation.

Like I said. Informative scepticism is welcome. I say no more.
43051. 43052

43053. 43054

I entirely agree with this assessment. I have been pondering the potential proliferation of this virus in India, as of recent! If this thing gets a foothold there—drawing upon Italy for example—the outcome, to put it mildly, would be utter devastation for the Indian people. I will be following carefully what is going on there, as I have an uncomfortable 'sense' of how things, might, play out there. USA, also is not looking promising. High population density centres is an obvious indication—though China is pulling a fast one, in my respectful opinion.

Update 11th April 2020,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVe4RGpdgeE

India sees sharpest ever single-day spike in Covid-19 cases as nationwide total nears 7,500

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2020.04/article/5e914fd985f540093d43ec6e.JPG
https://on.rt.com/aeno



Updated 24th April 2021
Sorry to say the fears of this thing gripping India has unfortunately come to pass! It’s going to get a lot worse for these people!

Empty beds... what am I missing?

[Delight]

Empty beds... what am I missing?

From what I have read about India
They re being told that people are dying in the street in UK.
They are being put under lock down
What is the number of jabbed?
Where are the ill (is that empty hospital current)?

The plan is to have everyone jabbed. The plan is to frighten, coerce and punish.
This daily onslaught of nonsense is backed by guns and imprisonment. People are being essentially battered and forced to jump off the cliff into the NWO.
I would flee into the country side for dear life. At this point, maybe some people will evade the end game?

[EarthGirl]

This question was asked on twitter... small selection of replies


Anyone in India? What's COVID19 reality there?


Yes. Me! There are not 1000s dying & dead bodies everywhere. Its all doom n gloom fear programming.I just went to the local govt hospital.. there’s hardly anyone there, car park more or less empty, no queues, no vacs going on and no dead bodies up the walls!!


I am in India. What they are saying on the media is bull****!


I m from bharat (india), here is the biggest farmer's protest in history, they stand for his rights since last 4 month's, but goverment not take them seriously, no corona here only corona scam, no corona in election rally's, media also involved in this scam,

I actually think on the BBC yesterday it had a clip of a tomb stone and I could have sworn it said death 1995... old footage? Face with raised eyebrow


My neighbour has relatives in India , she said there is no corona in India .. who knows !

A colleague came back from there 2 weeks ago & she & her husband didn't isolate & they weren't told to..they went to see family members they are all fine over there...its that jab that's doing it & we know Bill Gates was experimenting on them a few yrs ago..makes you wonder
Selecting Delhi is the issue.


/1385902186983567365

https://twitter.com/2020Smiles/status/1385902186983567365/photo/2


I know people in India who say it's utter bull**** they are doing an Italy all over again


I work with a lot of people in India.
They're being fed the same **** we are!


I asked an Indian chap the other Day and he said it's not that bad and the BBC are lying.


My landlady in India says they were all fine until they started getting jabbed & that our government & news are using India for scaremongering propaganda & not to believe them as it’s nowhere near as bad as they’re saying

[Matthew]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzzfWg6XMAEkcE9?format=jpg&name=900x900

[TomKat]

The covid vaccine agenda is so global and powerful that it proves the existence of a global dictator. To expect this power to miss the opportunity for population control is like believing in Santa Claus.

[Delight]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ez1x_wyXsAEHVyk?format=jpg&name=large

[Bill Ryan]

Delight, many thanks — that Times of India newspaper image is a little hard to read, but I tracked down the original digital article. The text is the same, and only the headline is different.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/180-deaths-after-jabs-till-mar-31-75-within-3-days/articleshow/81978526.cms

Covid 19 vaccine: 180 deaths after jabs till March 31, 75% within 3 days

9 April 2021 (updated 12 April)

A presentation made to the National AEFI (adverse event following immunisation) Committee on March 31 recorded that there had been 180 deaths till that time and three-fourths of the deaths happened within three days of the shot.

In other serious adverse events too, the overwhelming majority took place in the three-day window. Even as AEFI deaths are reported daily, causality assessment by the National AEFI Committee appears to be lagging with information about just 10 deaths in the public domain.

https://static.toiimg.com/photo/imgsize-145304,msid-81980799/81980799.jpg

Many of the AEFIs and deaths reported in India bear striking similarities to those recorded in the European Union and the UK, on the basis of which European Medicines Agency (EMA) has warned “healthcare professionals and people receiving the vaccine to remain aware of the possibility of very rare cases of blood clots combined with low levels of blood platelets occurring within 2 weeks of vaccination”.

Public health activists who have been tracking adverse events following immunisation (AEFI) in the ongoing covid vaccination effort have repeatedly sought greater transparency in AEFI investigations and more rapid causality assessments to help inform vaccination policy.

[Eric J (Viking)]

India’s “Covid Crisis” has been hijacked – The Mainstream Media are lying to you..


Do you remember the scenes broadcast on the mainstream news channels, and plastered across the front pages at the start of 2020?

Infamous images of Chinese medical officials in hazmat suits collecting bodies off the pavements of Wuhan, where we were told they had collapsed and died in the street because of a new strain of coronavirus, now knows as COVID-19.

The scenes have not been replicated anywhere else, confirming that it was all a lie and propaganda, used to whip up the hysteria and justify the introduction of medical tyranny across the world, in the name of preventing the spread of COVID-19.

Further reading...

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/04/25/indias-covid-crisis-has-been-hijacked-the-mainstream-media-are-lying-to-you/

Viking

[Tintin]

India's news agencies report that their health ambassador died one day after receiving a vaccination (more details in this post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113668-Vaccination-Injuries-On-Record-for-Covid19&p=1423096&viewfull=1#post1423096))

The spike of deaths in India follows their Vaccination rollout which started 16th Jan 2021. Their deaths per million figure after 16th Jan exceeded the number of deaths per million during their covid spike 2020.

To use a well known expression, and if you will excuse my foul language: someone is taking the p***

https://twitter.com/VernonF31630714/status/1385691679420715014
@VernonF31630714
Replying to
@Demo2020cracy
I have contact with lots of friends in India, they are all saying the same thing - that the "pandemic" is staged, they are further stating they are being drip fed lies and propaganda that the UK has people dying in the street.

This is the ages-old deceit being played here isn't it; a different narrative for a different audience. That's really interesting to see it stated and confirmed here.

I can confirm: people are not dying on the street here in the UK.

Whatever the cause of the increase in these 'cases', some perspective is necessary (again).

India: population 1.3billion; deaths attributed to Covid-19 = circa 196,000; recoveries = circa 13.5 million; recorded cases in total throughout the course of the 'pandemic' = around 15 or so million.
(source: UK Column who haven't linked to the source on their site yet - running order follows later).

The percentage mortality over the duration of India's experience at this point is ridiculously miniscule.

I appreciate that one must bear in mind this could get worse but this is almost a nothing-to-see-here story. One suspects a pro-lockdown narrative being spun here in the minds of the populations for whom this narrative has been created.

[Matthew]

But Tintin how else are they going to cover for excess vaccination deaths?

The rate of excess deaths after the vaccination in India, which started on the 16th January 2021, exceeds the rate of excess deaths during high covid in March/April/May 2020.

Vivek, an actor famous in India, and the guy who was also the Tamilnadu state's ambassador for public health messages, had a cardiac arrest and died less than 24 hours after a very public vaccination.

How embarrassing! And that is after the drug companies had a slow start getting the vaccination into India. Early on, in February 2021, an Indian expert panel rejected Pfizer's application for its Covid-19 vaccine (more here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1411362&viewfull=1#post1411362)). Also, they were using Ivermectin (early on).

But we're lead to believe it's due to covid. At least the clear evidence is on our side, it's not subtle; Vivek's death, and the suspicious correlation between vaccination rate and the rate of death since the vaccinations started. You'll never be able to convince some people, but there are some reasonable people out there

[Tintin]

But Tintin how else are they going to cover for excess vaccination deaths?

The rate of excess deaths after the vaccination in India, which started on the 16th January 2021, exceeds the rate of excess deaths during high covid in March/April/May 2020.

Vivek, an actor famous in India, and the guy who was also the Tamilnadu state's ambassador for public health messages, had a cardiac arrest and died less than 24 hours after a very public vaccination.

How embarrassing! And that is after the drug companies had a slow start getting the vaccination into India. Early on, in February 2021, an Indian expert panel rejected Pfizer's application for its Covid-19 vaccine (more here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1411362&viewfull=1#post1411362)). Also, they were using Ivermectin (early on).

But we're lead to believe it's due to covid. At least the clear evidence is on our side, it's not subtle; Vivek's death, and the suspicious correlation between vaccination rate and the rate of death since the vaccinations started. You'll never be able to convince some people, but there are some reasonable people out there

Oh, there is little doubt that vaccination adverse events are sure to be partially responsible, if not maybe even wholly (we don't have sufficient data, yet) for mortality increase - I'm completely on board with that. We can be pretty certain that transfection by means of pathogenic priming via injection will account for some of the 'cases'.

Correlation <> causation necessarily but it's rather beginning to look like that operator (<> - not equal to) is going to change to a nice corpulent = after second doses.

The point I know I was trying to make (perhaps i was clumsy there :flower: ) in response to your Twitter post was framed around the hype around what appear to be quite low numbers and their weaponisation, and further the OP.

A little virology 101 to anyone looking in: viruses do not 'wave'. Certain virus stable conditions/environments allow them to resurge and I would suggest seasonally.

If any headline anywhere states 'wave' then you can be fairly certain that infectious disease epidemiology isn't the author or editor's area of expertise Even the WHO in their extraordinarily rare moments of perspicacity throughout this whole debacle reaffirm that (whilst changing the definitions of just about everything else :) );


"Margaret Harris, WHO spokesperson, said, “People are still thinking about seasons. What we all need to get our heads around is that this is a new virus and this one is behaving differently . . . It’s going to be one big wave. It’s going to go up and down a bit. The best thing is to flatten it and turn it into just something lapping at your feet. But at the moment, first, second, third wave—these things don’t really make sense.”"

I would challenge Ms Harris on her assertion concerning 'seasons'.

Quite some degree of herd-immunity has already been established, and verified by Indian professionals too, not just in India as their sensible conclusions would satisfactorily explain why 'case' numbers in the UK have been declining too.

India was doing really well (13 'cases' per 1,000,000) with a low mortality until the vaccine rollout.

I personally really don't disagree with that, at all. My ire was aimed at the fearmongering headline.

[Journeyman]

Vivek, an actor famous in India, and the guy who was also the Tamilnadu state's ambassador for public health messages, had a cardiac arrest and died less than 24 hours after a very public vaccination.

How embarrassing! And that is after the drug companies had a slow start getting the vaccination into India. Early on, in February 2021, an Indian expert panel rejected Pfizer's application for its Covid-19 vaccine (more here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113780-Avoiding-the-Experimental-Vaccine&p=1411362&viewfull=1#post1411362)). Also, they were using Ivermectin (early on).

But we're lead to believe it's due to covid. At least the clear evidence is on our side, it's not subtle; Vivek's death, and the suspicious correlation between vaccination rate and the rate of death since the vaccinations started. You'll never be able to convince some people, but there are some reasonable people out there


I have the same question about Vivek's death as I do about the disappearing nurse who 'fainted', Tiffany Dover. (https://whereistiffanydover.com/) These are so high profile, if you were pushing a deadly jab why wouldn't you simply give the high profile people involved in getting people to take it a saline placebo instead? Why kill Vivek or Tiffany and get us all talking about it?

[Tintin]

So, lots of perhaps contradictory information flying around which is why I'm very wary of the veracity of the 'second wave' (sic) hype.

Rural parts of India can be very cut-off from civilisation (citification in its literal sense).

I used to work at a Medical Royal College in London and some of our Indian Members and Fellows sent in type written letters and had no access to the internet, at all. That was over 12 years ago and I'd imagine that some sort of better access to these treatment protocols must now be more readily available, surely?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ez5bKVeVUAMj_pQ?format=jpg&name=large

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[Matthew]

This graph puts things in perspective ❤️

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ez5nHE_WQAUsDII?format=jpg&name=large


'----==++##@#+=--~


From another angle it looks like this:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzzfWg6XMAEkcE9?format=jpg&name=900x900

[uzn]

NOTHING IS HAPPENING WITH COVID IN INDIA

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[uzn]

The Times of India 9.April 2021

https://i.redd.it/363gio6h0fu61.jpg

any Questions?

[greybeard]

EXPOSED: MASS Death In India? Or FAKE NEWS? - Australian Government Says Vax Is POISON?!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jXIysZ9u8vhM/

jXIysZ9u8vhM

[Tintin]

This could have easily lived on any number of related threads but as it originates from India I'll place it here for now.

Here's an impassioned anti-Covid vax (injection) rant from an Indian citizen :flower:

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1387368215651753988/pu/vid/1280x592/UJXgYcL5I8GBBaxT.mp4?tag=12

[greybeard]

EXPOSED: MASS Death In India? Or FAKE NEWS? - Australian Government Says Vax Is POISON?!

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jXIysZ9u8vhM/

jXIysZ9u8vhM

Thanks Bill for embedding this video and several others in the recent past.
A picture worth a thousand words -- as the saying goes.
Chris

[Journeyman]

Some very unethical reporting going on:

https://media.8kun.top/file_store/ba4e3fba77db732a826d54c71d62442c83234f965ba6ec3215678792e807db8a.jpg

https://media.8kun.top/file_store/f67fedd080b027f2348c4ea427bfefa44253fab94536d59cd4d806c32cada650.png

[Eva2]

https://scontent.fyvr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/179076023_10159993503894434_4540478105574969691_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=bD_lCapz1fwAX9U8BHF&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr1-1.fna&oh=2f9d7ca62c892f009a4360ac525a0316&oe=60AFEF05

[Tintin]

That's a great post (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114804-India-Rural-doctors-braced-for---devastating---second-wave-as-India--s-workers-flee-cities&p=1425186&viewfull=1#post1425186) there Jill and a much more accurate representation of what's really happening there, as tragic as it is, and far too often an occurrence in the poorer areas.

Indian people are amongst the very smartest when it comes to knowing how to protect themselves and certainly with natural prophylaxes. The government a few months ago approved and supplied home kits so it does again look like fearmongering propaganda being fed to the western populations, coupled with next-to-no actual journalism.

Mainstream sources have now become almost completely untrustworthy in every way imaginable around anything to do with Covid. I've kept them at arms length through the duration of this t0 date and there's no reason to trust them, at all at face value on anything, anywhere being supposedly reported. It's pretty disgusting frankly.

On a more positive note, the Indian government have revised their guidelines to include the use of Ivermectin. It ought to be happening here in the UK as well but the more worldly wise of us aren't really surprised that it isn't, for typically obvious reasons.

Any road up, here are the guidelines:

Source: https://www.mohfw.gov.in/pdf/RevisedguidelinesforHomeIsolationofmildasymptomaticCOVID19cases.pdf

https://www.mohfw.gov.in/pdf/RevisedguidelinesforHomeIsolationofmildasymptomaticCOVID19cases.pdf

[Agape]

We will survive, no worries 🙏 I’m in India, you know and India has lived through countless calamities, invasions of power, famines and epidemics.
Anybody who has travelled through India in the past knows that epidemiological and hygiene situation used to be little difficult here in the past, especially in big cities.

There’s been huge improvement on that side through last 20 years or so, everyone who can have hot water in their bathrooms, computers, latest appliances of all sorts, houses are built with modern ecological materials and following expert advice of architects.

Kids go to school and work on computers or tablets and many schools give them for free.

Healthcare system has been introduced number of years ago so people are entitled to cost free visits at GP, scans or surgeries that they struggled to pay for under the previous transition epoch ( independence from British rule, tongue in cheek, still ongoing ).

The so called middle class grew exponentially larger through last only two decades, people tend to have “smart jobs” ( carriers in computers and business management, among else) , smart cars, smart cloth , smart devices.

Most are family oriented but money driven and social competition taking care of consumer market is the old-new norm,

But India is country of 1.5 billion people and this new smart middle class can not contain all in the same speed.

So there still exists residual poverty and beggars in the street ( though begging is officially prohibited ) and millions of people living under poverty line with insufficient access to hygienic facilities, medical care and proper housing.


Some medical experts had estimated that cross vaccinating whole population of India will take 7 years.

There is huge diversity of population and opinions in India.

No one is very brainwashed here I can assure you and people can and are used to THINK FREE about anything that is going on in this world.
They won’t agree with you for no reason.

Of course the media picture of what’s going on is largely overblown ❤️

It’s not that it all wouldn’t be happening but it’s sort of happening at other times too, without you have been checking it,
Yes more medical equipment IS NEEDED in many Indian hospitals.

Care is needed for those who are poor, homeless or disabled but it is India’s internal matter to tackle the situation and redistribute resources accordingly to prevent their own humanitarian crisis.

It is important not to let millions forgotten people die under the wheels of your million dollar cars.

I’m not willing to get more emotional because the bloody richest people jumped on their private jets and flew themselves “to safety” as soon as Covid 19 started peaking up recently, in case it all goes rogue (?).


We are grateful for all the oxygen tanks and international help promised and sent and if I was at the wheel I would perhaps, dare to admit that more help is necessary in that area.
If the situation unrolls even faster - it’s beginning of summer here - we all could end up in yet larger human catastrophe since fumes of dead bodies fill the atmosphere and are carried across the globe.
Brazil is also reporting big numbers of people dying in emergency.


This all pandemic situation could have one big wave after another , whichever we can’t predict.


There is no “army pressing orders” as some suspect or falsely reported, unless they guard traffic and human movements they never intervene.

We are obliged to follow social protocols such as cover your mouth in store but no one will kill you if you can’t do that.

There’s night curfew imposed in the state of Himachal but it really is only from 10 pm to 5 am and it’s up to you what you do with that time anyway.

Some shops shut. Most are opening as they can. You know in India people start crying “oppression” even if the “lockdown” lasts just today between 9 and 11 . It’s already something to make you think about life, yourself and who is running the show 😅


Nothing lasts too long in the heat, including lockdowns.

No one wants to let people die, I can assure you. In my genuine opinion, more medical aid and distribution of all kinds of essential resources to the poorest classes of society is needed.


🙏🌟🙏

[Agape]

Well, we are receiving some initial international help with Grace 🙏

Sweden is sending million doses of Astra-Zeneca vaccine,
priceless as we are currently short of vaccines.
The UK, US, China and many other countries including the Czech Reoublic sent oxygen cylinders and generators, some portable beds etc.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/coronavirus-outbreak/story/india-covid-updates-may-3-vaccine-lockdown-cases-deaths-1798206-2021-05-03

Indian serological company claims they’re unable to ramp vaccine production to match requirements.

Numbers of Covid 19 cases are slightly lower than on Saturday but still very high ( about 368000 recorded cases from yesterday) and acute Covid related mortalities are in thousands per day.

Oxygen shortage in Delhi is also real, long term suppressed air pollution problem in big cities that due to high amount of traffic and toxic emissions and tons of dust turned the environment to “deadly zone”.
Delhites and other inhabitants of megacities all over the world got used to chronic respiratory syndrome all over the year, with or without infection insufficient oxygen saturation of chronic leads to many other chronic metabolic dysfunctions , fatigue, hypoxia, confusion, lack of concentration among the less mentioned.

I have started to think about decreasing levels of oxygen in the atmosphere years back and would there be a way to “pump it back” if necessary.

Planting more trees certainly fixes the trouble for generations but not unless we are able to reduce mega-infra-structures and mega car traffic.

🙏💧🙏🦢

[Journeyman]

Well, we are receiving some initial international help with Grace 🙏

Sweden is sending million doses of Astra-Zeneca vaccine,
priceless as we are currently short of vaccines.
The UK, US, China and many other countries including the Czech Reoublic sent oxygen cylinders and generators, some portable beds etc.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/coronavirus-outbreak/story/india-covid-updates-may-3-vaccine-lockdown-cases-deaths-1798206-2021-05-03

Indian serological company claims they’re unable to ramp vaccine production to match requirements.

Numbers of Covid 19 cases are slightly lower than on Saturday but still very high ( about 368000 recorded cases from yesterday) and acute Covid related mortalities are in thousands per day.

Oxygen shortage in Delhi is also real, long term suppressed air pollution problem in big cities that due to high amount of traffic and toxic emissions and tons of dust turned the environment to “deadly zone”.
Delhites and other inhabitants of megacities all over the world got used to chronic respiratory syndrome all over the year, with or without infection insufficient oxygen saturation of chronic leads to many other chronic metabolic dysfunctions , fatigue, hypoxia, confusion, lack of concentration among the less mentioned.

I have started to think about decreasing levels of oxygen in the atmosphere years back and would there be a way to “pump it back” if necessary.

Planting more trees certainly fixes the trouble for generations but not unless we are able to reduce mega-infra-structures and mega car traffic.

🙏💧🙏🦢

I recall seeing an analysis of mortality in europe which tracke very closely to high pollution areas. Northern Italy for instance had bad air pollution levels.

[Agape]

Yes high pollution levels and resulting number of chronic respiratory syndromes in city areas is high but people in India -especially manual workers- often go untreated for years.
It’s humanly , catastrophic situation for someone like me and it always was but over the years, it’s on the way of improving.

Actually if you look at this huge pandemic disaster filling media pages with numbers every day, in my estimate probably at least 80-90% of those people have underlying condition , often chronic or undiagnosed that is revealed after they bumped to coronavirus and they end up in hospital.
I say 75% of those people probably needed some medical help before .

The same is true for the rest of the world. What has happened in the UK , especially in senior homes did not surprise many people , or did it.

They now want to impose another full lockdown in India, following Dr Faucis “best advice”.

The people trying to impose lockdowns are usually on the top and have their hands free while everyone else is stressed to the brim.


It’s not a surgical cut and we don’t have even full amount of medical material to cover the situation fully.

It’s a difficult situation regardless.



🙏

[Eric J (Viking)]

Is this true Agape...

‘You're not being told the truth about India. There is currently a genocide taking place. People are being forced to take the vaccine against their will and unvaccinated people are being killed. The water supplies have been turned off for the poorest regions. This is genocide by any definition. Over 200,000 dead so far - over 3,000 a day are going down sick daily. Millions in India could end up dying from the vaccine and the covid-19 pandemic. ‘

https://www.bitchute.com/video/gSiPbf7ZXiP1/

Viking

gSiPbf7ZXiP1

[Agape]

Is this true Agape...

‘You're not being told the truth about India. There is currently a genocide taking place. People are being forced to take the vaccine against their will and unvaccinated people are being killed. The water supplies have been turned off for the poorest regions. This is genocide by any definition. Over 200,000 dead so far - over 3,000 a day are going down sick daily. Millions in India could end up dying from the vaccine and the covid-19 pandemic. ‘

https://www.bitchute.com/video/gSiPbf7ZXiP1/

Viking

gSiPbf7ZXiP1


Sorry Viking, this is 54 second video filmed in the street someone anonymous posted with generalised statement about “how bad things are”.

It’s not a riddle or objective statement besides that India is a subcontinent with at least 1.5. billion people and huge diversity of habitats and cultures.

If you’ve never been to India ( or say you were but on 3 weeks “guided tour” that absolves you from seeing people and scenes “like this”) it’s probably more shocking but that’s because you don’t know India.

The woman was taken to the van not “to receive vaccination” but because found positive of Covid 19 and will be taken to Covid infectious ward.
The kids and her qualify practically as homeless. They’re illiterate and difficult to communicate with about something “as complicated” as coronavirus.


From internal perspective it’s unworthy commenting on, if the author of the video was so concerned why wouldn’t they provide us with factual information.


There is political infighting going on right now and attacks on the PM for not imposing full lockdown and not handling this and that right.

I say shame on anyone trying to undermine united effort to defend just about everybody, 1.5 billion people, that’s not right.


India has huge many residual humanitarian problems to tackle, left over from previous centuries of endless subjugation and dominion of foreign powers.

So what to do.


I’ve never been reporting myself while on my spiritual journey in India because most people including my late mum would never understand the truth. Of course I reported myself after that’s till it was possible or necessary.

My own status is obviously still “live”.

If the phone kicks in I won’t be posting either.

Personally I’ve got strongly discharmed with prevalent level of human intelligence/ignorance over the years and I’m just one vulnerable individual, not party to anything, here for a moment I feel.


🕊

It could have all been very different kind of experience for me if not for what has happened in Uruguay and things that followed.
Some of it I’ve posted in my threads in the witness section. Unfortunately this forum is public forum. The people who were after me in some manner “after Uruguay” could be probably tailed as ultra-alt-right.
They’re certainly more dangerous than Covid 19.

[Agape]

This all is also ‘true’...

Have India super rich done enough to help in the country’s fight against Covid 19 (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.scroll.in/article/993957/have-indias-ultra-rich-done-enough-to-help-in-the-countrys-fight-against-covid-19)


8 lions tested positive for Covid 19 in Hyderabad ZOO (https://www.reuters.com/world/india/eight-lions-indian-zoo-test-positive-covid-19-2021-05-04/)

If you put only two words to the google search such as ‘India news’ and click on ‘news” tab on the top of the screen,
you won’t miss the numbers, photos, and scale of the disaster.

Nepal is also experiencing high load of Covid cases, including outbreak at Mt Everest camp, they are also short of vaccines and essentially shutting their borders again till the situation outlasts itself.


🌟

[Bill Ryan]

From Mike Adams of naturalnews.com (https://naturalnews.com), at 6:28 in his 3 May 2021 interview with Dr Lee Merritt, here (https://www.brighteon.com/85761cb5-b202-4d89-b36d-cc920319ab73). (Recommended, btw.)

https://projectavalon.net/Covid_cases_in_India.gif

[Agape]

The BBC undercover report:

India’s Covid crisis: rural hospitals unable to cope (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-57029452)

Clearly the situation is worse in some of the vast rural areas and states of India running low on medical personnel and equipments.

Overall case load curve is still very high, 400 000 new cases of Covid infections but recovery rate is almost 75%, if 4000 people die per day it’s almost 1% mortality rate.

Most mathematical predictions based in cluster theory of social dynamics and inter-feedback between diverse groups/parts of society and viral spread sheet ( remember the movie Andromeda strain ?) suggest there may be another bigger wave of infections coming up,
both nationally and internationally.

We can’t know that exactly NOW. It seems we have reached certain new platform with the virus load as of the moment that continues to propagate in steady velocity.

Even with all vaccination effort available it’s fairly impossible to say how long does it take to end this epidemics, globally.


🌏

[Matthew]

Yet another independent data analyst

https://twitter.com/jjchamie/status/1390834787003285505
J Chamie
@jjchamie
Flag of India COVID-19 in India

The Covid outbreak in the neighbor states of Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Maharashtra started several weeks apart.

However in all of them as soon as ivermectin was included in COVID-19 protocol the tendency changed.(graph showing reduction in 'case incidents' when Ivermectin was introduced into the national protocol, late April)

[EarthGirl]

With the biggest respect Agape, Hugs x...
Citing the BBC for your information in regards to what is happening in India is no longer to be believed. They have over this last year (and many before that ) proved themselves to be totally biased in their information... They only show a one sided narrative which exclusively follows what the government (or who ever is in control) tells them to do so...





The BBC undercover report:

India’s Covid crisis: rural hospitals unable to cope (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-india-57029452)

Clearly the situation is worse in some of the vast rural areas and states of India running low on medical personnel and equipments.

Overall case load curve is still very high, 400 000 new cases of Covid infections but recovery rate is almost 75%, if 4000 people die per day it’s almost 10% mortality rate.

Most mathematical predictions based in cluster theory of social dynamics and inter-feedback between diverse groups/parts of society and viral spread sheet ( remember the movie Andromeda strain ?) suggest there may be another bigger wave of infections coming up,
both nationally and internationally.

We can’t know that exactly NOW. It seems we have reached certain new platform with the virus load as of the moment that continues to propagate in steady velocity.

Even with all vaccination effort available it’s fairly impossible to say how long does it take to end this epidemics, globally.


🌏

[Alan]

Overall case load curve is still very high, 400 000 new cases of Covid infections but recovery rate is almost 75%, if 4000 people die per day it’s almost 10% mortality rate.

FYI 4000 is 1% of 400,000, not 10%.

[Agape]

Overall case load curve is still very high, 400 000 new cases of Covid infections but recovery rate is almost 75%, if 4000 people die per day it’s almost 10% mortality rate.

FYI 4000 is 1% of 400,000, not 10%.

Thought so, thanks, I am more careful with reading “all the news” now.

Mental hygiene is as important as physical hygiene.

It’s important to keep calm and return to one’s enclosure..as we have curfew now,

feeling much calmer.


1% is certainly better than 10%. It just looked like 10 at the time of writing it. Or my eyes grew bigger.


I’ve edited it.

🙏

[Billy]

Praveen from India caught Covid 40 days ago and he is still unwell. Plus more insight as to what is actually happening in India.
He has not taken the jab yet.

SeWODTzc0uw

[Agape]

Hello Billy.

As I’m looking to these numbers for last two weeks now, I almost forgot we had Kumbha Mela this year, in Haridwar.

It’s a giant event. Millions of people take a holy dip or bath in Ganga on certain auspicious dates on particular holy spot on the holiest of Indian rivers.
The timing of these events follows the 12 year cycle of Jupiter and commemorates drops of the nectar of immortality falling on Earth to these particular places while gods and Demi-gods fought for it on astral plane.

Taking bath in river( Ganga in this case) at these particular times purifies one’s past deeds and reconnects souls effortlessly to their home in higher realms.

Now what has happened this year ...

while Covid 19 infection case load was on steady decline since the end of last year and the state of Uttar Pradesh - one of the most populated states- where Hardiwar is located was relatively Covid free, millions of sadhus and devotees from all over India travelled to take holy dip.
They say they’ve counted 9 million people visiting Kumbha Mela starting from January 14 till April 30 while its duration was shortened perhaps the first time in its modern history and visitors were asked to bring proof of Covid neg test, wear masks,

naturally it was a crowded event and everyone washed their bio fauna to the river passing it on to the millions of other people.

Kumbha Mela pilgrims turning to super spreaders (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57005563.amp)

Almost 99% returnees from the pilgrimage are now testing positive


After Kumbha Mela, Uttarkhand now sees 1800% increase in cases


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thequint.com/amp/story/coronavirus/spike-covid-cases-uttarakhand-haridwar-maha-kumbh-mela-superspreader


On the positive side, ivermectine - originally wide spectre anti-parasitic drug- is now in trial for its direct intervention capacity with Covid 19

Covid-19, immediate global ivermectin use can stop the pandemic, say scientists (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.timesnownews.com/amp/international/article/covid-19-immediate-global-ivermectin-use-can-end-pandemic-say-scientists/755156)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MvN4gYUQM0


Ancient seers returning to their younger years, defying every script and order - it’s what you’re meant to do at Kumbha Mela anyway.


Behold the ancient city of Madhuram


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D198nSeAT0


🙏

[Bill Ryan]

From https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/is-india-seeing-a-wave-of-deaths-and-injuries-following-covid-19-shots:

Is India Seeing a Wave of Deaths and Injuries following COVID-19 Shots?

Here's the full article (https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/is-india-seeing-a-wave-of-deaths-and-injuries-following-covid-19-shots), but this graph may tell its own story.

https://projectavalon.net/India_covid_deaths.gif

[Agape]

Australian businessman trapped in India dies for Covid (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57153430.amp)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UFmwArST-I


For all the trapped Australians, also Japan has recently shut its borders from own residents returning from India and Nepal so sing along ..


🙏

[Agape]

We are in lockdown of course with only 3 hours of permitted outings everyday and this may last some. Overall numbers are on decrease.

Fortunately for me I’ve locked myself up a lot before this all started, end of November 2019 and called it meditation retreat. Practising in locker seems to be essential with many ancient yoga schools :)

It’s so much calmer out there since ..

Gives us all lots of time to think and pray for the rest of the world



🕊

[Agape]

Dr K K Aggarwal loses battle with Covid 19 (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/india/dr-kk-aggarwal-passes-away-7319296/lite/)

Dr Aggarwal, Padma Shri awardee and former president of the Indian Medical Association passed away after long battle with Covid in New Delhi on Monday.

The 62 year old was admitted to AIIMS and was on ventilator support since last week.

Dr Aggarwal was cardiologist and the head of Heart Foundation of India.

Over the past year he had been posting videos on the Covid pandemic ...



🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊

[Tintin]

The Indian Bar Association is piling in now and calling out the WHO deceit :muscle:


"A legal notice is served by Indian Bar Association (IBA) upon Dr. Soumya
Swaminathan, the Chief Scientist at the World Health Organisation (WHO) on
May 25, 2021 for her act of spreading disinformation and misguiding the people
of India, in order to fulfil her agenda...."

https://indianbarassociation.in/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/IBA-PRESS-RELEASE-MAY-26-2021.pdf

[Matthew]

Cross posted from the Food Shortages Soon? thread


...

... mass starvation in India, from Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.um9.html):
THE TRUTH COMES OUT FROM AN INDIAN FARMER

There have not been covid deaths in India, all the dead have died of starvation caused by lockdowns. All the dead floating in the river were people who were starved to death. They locked the farmers down, did not permit them to work in any way, including tending their animals, and now they are starving. He also goes over what is going to happen elsewhere, they are gearing up for total genocide and he's already seen this first hand.

See/listen to video at http://82.221.129.208/.um9.html

[Billy]

This village in Andhra, India claims to have a miracle Ayurvedic cure for Covid.
Thousands of people are traveling to receive this treatment.
Locals are refusing the vaccine.
Ambulances were driving patients with no hope of survival from hospitals for treatment. They all survived.
Police have set up road blocks to prevent people entering the village.

oroS8BMekcM

One can only hope :bowing:

[Agape]

India just made another worthy step ahead towards the truth ...

DHGS revises Covid treatment guidelines, drops all medicines from Covid management guidelines (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/dghsrevises-covid-treatment-guidelines-101623006212478-amp.html)

Well I recommend that you read these revised guidelines for yourself and make your own opinion.

It would not surprise me a lot if we could figure out and drop the need for vaccinations either

It may take some time yet


🌟

[Bill Ryan]

India just made another worthy step ahead towards the truth ...

DHGS revises Covid treatment guidelines, drops all medicines from Covid management guidelines (https://hindustantimes.com/india-news/dghsrevises-covid-treatment-guidelines-101623006212478-amp.html)

Well I recommend that you read these revised guidelines for yourself and make your own opinion.

It would not surprise me a lot if we could figure out and drop the need for vaccinations either

It may take some time yetFrom the Hindustan Times article. (Which, in my opinion, defies all understanding)

The revised guidelines, issued on May 27, effectively dropped all drugs that doctors have been prescribing even to asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic Covid-19 patients such as hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc, multivitamins etc.

[DeeMetrios]

This village in Andhra, India claims to have a miracle Ayurvedic cure for Covid.
Could it be food ? ........hehe

Seriously a few days ago , a post n video above led me to believe it was starvation by the Powers that Rule .
Hmmm ..... maybe this miracle cure is "mind over matter'' ?
If its truly works they should spread this Ayurvedic formula around India & then the world .
.......................
Since this Covid drama has begun , it seems to me their are 4 sides to every story/aspect of it ...2 with truth in them & 2 on the dark .
"Divine Dichotomy" ?

Just my 2c worth .
cheers

[Agape]

India just made another worthy step ahead towards the truth ...

DHGS revises Covid treatment guidelines, drops all medicines from Covid management guidelines (https://hindustantimes.com/india-news/dghsrevises-covid-treatment-guidelines-101623006212478-amp.html)

Well I recommend that you read these revised guidelines for yourself and make your own opinion.

It would not surprise me a lot if we could figure out and drop the need for vaccinations either

It may take some time yetFrom the Hindustan Times article. (Which, in my opinion, defies all understanding)

The revised guidelines, issued on May 27, effectively dropped all drugs that doctors have been prescribing even to asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic Covid-19 patients such as hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc, multivitamins etc.



That’s why I’m saying they may be upto something ..


they’ve been dealing with millions of Covid cases till now, that’s enough for one big even if not so clinical trial.

Now most of the Covid patients who fall to severe respiratory distress or another trauma have number of underlying conditions or/and microbial growth reaching a threshold of evolution of infection and pulmonary disease, among else.


The subpoena of the above is as such, this human civilisation has already bio-hijacked itself numerous times. Even biological warfare in itself is probably very old, back to days of tribal wars.

Our modern bio-warfare is even more dangerous.

There is a number of humans on this planet at any point of time who carry collection of microbes so vast that a modern, washed and civilised human would stand no chance in front of those people should they decide to spit on your feet.


There are too many discrete and unknown infections we have very little knowledge for or cure so far and are wide spread.


If there is one great hope in the recent pandemic motion, it would be improvement and accessibility of medical care to general public , globally and locally.

Things can improve if we treat individual people as people instead as numbers and cases.


🙏

[TomKat]

vaccine side-effects are now a new strain of covid...

[Sue (Ayt)]

Miles Mathis published this interesting paper on his site:
India: The Real Crisis. A new writer from India tells us what is really going on. (http://mileswmathis.com/indiancrisis.pdf)

http://mileswmathis.com/indiancrisis.pdf

http://mileswmathis.com/indiancrisis.pdf

[Agape]

Locally I would say, we tend to think that Covid has some positive agenda though you can’t say that aloud.

The situation “before Covid” at its climax , 2015-2019 was one of environmental and human disaster. People were coming up here to the Himalayas by thousands from the big cities and all around the world,
with traffic so dense cars were standing for hours in colonies on frail mountain roads..

Cars and motorcycles filling every piece of road and pavement right up to the temple gate.

People pick-nicking on every square yard in the big natural jungle pristine still few years ago for thousands and thousands of years mercilessly trashing those spots with thousands and thousands of expensive liquor bottles.

The flame and the rage of the Mahishasura
reached to the utmost edges of human civilisation

The 10 000 megawatts black box speaker
blasting sounds like on the Day of Judgement

I don’t dare you to see what I’ve seen ..


It all has vanished ..

for a while ❄️

We get hailstorms and early rains as usually. People get holidays from working everyday some with not a single Day of holiday for years ...


People get back to normal and to growing their vegetables and care about their neighbours bit better, I believe.

[Matthew]

India just made another worthy step ahead towards the truth ...

DHGS revises Covid treatment guidelines, drops all medicines from Covid management guidelines (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/dghsrevises-covid-treatment-guidelines-101623006212478-amp.html)

Well I recommend that you read these revised guidelines for yourself and make your own opinion.

It would not surprise me a lot if we could figure out and drop the need for vaccinations either

It may take some time yet


🌟

Oh that is interesting. Here's a snippet:


... The revised guidelines, issued on May 27, effectively dropped all drugs that doctors have been prescribing even to asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic Covid-19 patients such as hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc, multivitamins etc. The guidelines also dissuade medical practitioners to prescribe unnecessary tests such as CT scan.

For asymptomatic cases, the guidelines said, no medication is required, while medications for other co-morbid conditions should be continued. “Patients are advised to seek tele consultation; and Covid-19 appropriate behaviour must be observed such as mask, strict hand hygiene and physical distancing,” the guidelines said. ...

[Agape]

But there’s is huge vaccination campaign being unrolled simultaneously with the aim to cross vaccinate everybody fast as possible.

Daily Covid 19 cases are now on steady decline in most parts of India but we don’t know much about how far and long does this virus evolve in humans ?

🍀

[TravelerJim]

Zerohedge had a good article here on the new Indian policy regarding HCQ, Ivermectin, etc. The charts seem to be very telling about how within 30 days they made a 90% plus change in infection rates, hospital rates, etc. when using these drugs liberally. The new policy takes them away. What is at stake must be very important to the Powers-That-Be....

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/who-celebrates-indian-health-regulator-removes-ivermectin-its-covid-19-protocol

Most of you probably know this but China went with the traditional vaccine option itself...... not the new experimental gene therapy option.... hmmmmm...

[Gwin Ru]

WHO Chief Scientist Served Legal Notice In India For Allegedly Suppressing Data On Drug To Treat COVID-19 (https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/who-chief-scientist-served-legal-notice-india-allegedly-suppressing-data-drug-treat-covid)

by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, Jun 08, 2021 - 10:25 PM
Authored by Meiling Lee via The Epoch Times, (https://www.theepochtimes.com/who-chief-scientist-served-legal-notice-in-india-for-allegedly-suppressing-data-on-drug-to-treat-covid-19_3848865.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge)

The Indian Bar Association has taken legal action against the World Health Organization’s (WHO (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-who)) Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan for her alleged role in spreading disinformation on the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-covid-19).


https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/GettyImages-1232769291-700x420.jpg?itok=GdqVtqTt


World Health Organization's chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan looks on during an interview with AFP in Geneva on May 8, 2021. (Fabrice Coffrini/AFP via Getty Images)


The association served a legal notice (pdf (https://indianbarassociation.in/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Legal-Notice-to-Dr.-Soumya-Swaminathan_Chief-Scientist-WHO-1.pdf)) on Swaminathan on May 25, claiming that she was
“spreading disinformation and misguiding the people of India (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-t-india), in order to fulfill her agenda” and sought to prevent her from “causing further damage.”
They further say that Swaminathan, in her statements against the use of ivermectin, ignored research and clinical trials from two organizations - the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care (FLCCC) Alliance and the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) - who have presented solid data showing ivermectin prevents and treats COVID-19.
“Dr. Soumya Swaminathan has ignored these studies/reports and has deliberately suppressed the data regarding effectiveness of the drug Ivermectin, with an intent to dissuade the people of India from using Ivermectin,” the plaintiff said in a statement (pdf (https://indianbarassociation.in/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/IBA-PRESS-RELEASE-MAY-26-2021.pdf)).
In a May 10 tweet that has since been deleted after the notice was issued, Swaminathan wrote (https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-ivermectin-efficacy-safety-most-important-top-who-scientist-warns-against-ivermectin-use-2439290%20),
“Safety and efficacy are important when using any drug for a new indication. WHO recommends against the use of ivermectin for COVID-19 except within clinical trials.”
Swaminathan made the Twitter post soon after Goa’s health minister announced (https://twitter.com/visrane/status/1391660584068804608) that every Goa resident 18 and older would be given ivermectin as prevention regardless of their COVID-19 status, as part of the state government’s effort to stop the transmission of the virus. India has been hit hard in the second wave of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus (https://www.theepochtimes.com/giving-the-right-name-to-the-virus-causing-a-worldwide-pandemic-2_3277200.html) pandemic beginning in March 2021.

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WHO Chief Scientist Served Legal Notice In India For Allegedly Suppressing Data On Drug To Treat COVID-19 (https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/who-chief-scientist-served-legal-notice-india-allegedly-suppressing-data-drug-treat-covid)

by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, Jun 08, 2021 - 10:25 PM
Authored by Meiling Lee via The Epoch Times, (https://www.theepochtimes.com/who-chief-scientist-served-legal-notice-in-india-for-allegedly-suppressing-data-on-drug-to-treat-covid-19_3848865.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge)

The Indian Bar Association has taken legal action against the World Health Organization’s (WHO (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-who)) Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan for her alleged role in spreading disinformation on the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-covid-19).


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World Health Organization's chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan looks on during an interview with AFP in Geneva on May 8, 2021. (Fabrice Coffrini/AFP via Getty Images)


The association served a legal notice (pdf (https://indianbarassociation.in/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Legal-Notice-to-Dr.-Soumya-Swaminathan_Chief-Scientist-WHO-1.pdf)) on Swaminathan on May 25, claiming that she was
“spreading disinformation and misguiding the people of India (https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-t-india), in order to fulfill her agenda” and sought to prevent her from “causing further damage.”
They further say that Swaminathan, in her statements against the use of ivermectin, ignored research and clinical trials from two organizations - the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care (FLCCC) Alliance and the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) - who have presented solid data showing ivermectin prevents and treats COVID-19.
“Dr. Soumya Swaminathan has ignored these studies/reports and has deliberately suppressed the data regarding effectiveness of the drug Ivermectin, with an intent to dissuade the people of India from using Ivermectin,” the plaintiff said in a statement (pdf (https://indianbarassociation.in/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/IBA-PRESS-RELEASE-MAY-26-2021.pdf)).
In a May 10 tweet that has since been deleted after the notice was issued, Swaminathan wrote (https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-ivermectin-efficacy-safety-most-important-top-who-scientist-warns-against-ivermectin-use-2439290%20),
“Safety and efficacy are important when using any drug for a new indication. WHO recommends against the use of ivermectin for COVID-19 except within clinical trials.”
Swaminathan made the Twitter post soon after Goa’s health minister announced (https://twitter.com/visrane/status/1391660584068804608) that every Goa resident 18 and older would be given ivermectin as prevention regardless of their COVID-19 status, as part of the state government’s effort to stop the transmission of the virus. India has been hit hard in the second wave of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus (https://www.theepochtimes.com/giving-the-right-name-to-the-virus-causing-a-worldwide-pandemic-2_3277200.html) pandemic beginning in March 2021.

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Yes, and also mentioned here back on May 31st (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114804-India-Rural-doctors-braced-for---devastating---second-wave-as-India--s-workers-flee-cities&p=1431333&viewfull=1#post1431333)

It's been followed up with a second, Legal Notice of Contempt dated yesterday, June 13th:



"Indian Bar Association serves second legal notice on WHO Chief Scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan, WHO Director General Dr Tedros and Directorate General of Health Services (DGHS) Prof (Dr) Sunil Kumar for:
"Criminal offences against humanity."

PDF available via Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dZLKvOib6PjhEGXOLIdGod2ZQNGPnkoW/view)

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dZLKvOib6PjhEGXOLIdGod2ZQNGPnkoW/view

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By Dr. Justus Hope, MD Jun 14, 2021

Source: The Desert Review (https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/ivermectin-saves-india/article_14b1f1d6-cd2f-11eb-8b78-9710d864f627.html)

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India saw a dramatic fall in cases after the ICMR and AIIMS added Ivermectin to their protocols on April 20, 2021. Daily COVID-19 cases, which peaked at 414,188, are now down to 84,332, representing a drop of 80% overall in the country of India.

What seemed to be an impending humanitarian crisis at the end of April has now been brought under control, not with mass vaccination, but instead with an inexpensive repurposed drug, Ivermectin.

https://www.amazon.com/Ivermectin-World-Justus-R-Hope-ebook/dp/B0943T564G

Those Indian states that adopted more aggressive Ivermectin policies saw their cases fall far more than 80%, states like Uttar Pradesh - down 98% [37,944 to 596], like Uttarakhand - down 97% [9642 to 287] and Goa - down 90% [4195 to 423]. Delhi saw a 99% drop [28,395 to 238].

Tamil Nadu, which publicly banned Ivermectin, saw their cases rise to the highest in India, and they continued setting state records until May 21, 2021, when they peaked at 36,184.

Meanwhile, deaths have also dropped markedly in Delhi, among the first areas to adopt Ivermectin. Their deaths have plummeted from 448 on May 3 to 36 on June 9, a drop of 92%.

By contrast, Tamil Nadu's deaths rose ten-fold from April 20 to May 27. On June 9, Tamil Nadu's COVID-19 deaths remained the second highest in India at 405, while the states that chose Ivermectin were all dramatically better.

On June 9, Tamil Nadu, with a population less than 4.9% of India's, accounted for almost 20% of all of India's 2,177 June 9 death toll. By contrast, Uttar Pradesh which is on Ivermectin, with 204 million people, three times that of Tamil Nadu, saw a mere 91 deaths, less than 1/4 of Tamil Nadu.

The bottom line is that Ivermectin works, and it works extraordinarily well. You do not need to be a scientist to understand these numbers, as they are self-evident.

Why then does ABC News and Good Morning America need to have a segment entitled "COVID-19 treatment myth about Ivermectin" where they report - falsely - that Ivermectin should not be used and is "dangerous and not advised" to treat COVID-19?

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/covid-19-treatment-myth-ivermectin-78221949

As a board-certified physician with 39 years of practice, I can tell you this is categorically untrue. Even the WHO has reported Ivermectin to be a safe drug used in billions of doses for over four decades, and no statement like the above could be further from the truth.

This begs the question, Why? What could be the possible reason the primetime major US networks must at this moment break their silence on Ivermectin only to broadcast a bald-faced lie? Why is Good Morning America speaking out on June 11, 2021, about Ivermectin and India of all possible topics? Why do India and Ivermectin suddenly matter to Big Media?

Allow me to shed some light on this question by bringing you back to India for a moment. While GMA was trashing Ivermectin on network primetime US television, India was building it up on an Indian primetime television broadcast to - you guessed it - the people of Tamil Nadu.

On their morning program, "Vanakkam Tamil Nadu," which translates to Good Morning Tamil Nadu, reporter Ravishankar posed a similar question to Dr. Pierre Kory about why the Tamil Nadu health authorities do not support Ivermectin. She said that Tamil Nadu doctors might be watching as Kory delivered his answer.

Dr. Kory paused as he sat in disbelief, "That is a stunning opinion you just shared. Absolutely stunning." See the 6:04 mark on the video:

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Dr. Kory went on to explain how that opinion was right up there with "the moon landings were faked" or "the earth is flat." He politely suggested they were "isolated" in that opinion because the vast scientific literature on Ivermectin and COVID-19 show it to have unparalleled safety and to be associated with massive and reproducible reductions in mortality.

Five meta-analyses have been completed on Ivermectin. All show a dramatic positive effect. He explained that meta-analysis, the highest form of evidence in medicine, is a pooling of studies that combine all the evidence to generate a unified signal. That signal can only be interpreted in one direction, that Ivermectin must be adopted immediately. Dr. Kory explained how the Tamil Nadu casualties were unnecessary deaths - where the citizens could have been saved with Ivermectin.

The reporter even agreed. "You're right, you're right," she admitted.

But then Dr. Kory bluntly stated the obvious. The true reason is money. If the regulators acknowledged that Ivermectin is effective, then the Emergency Use Authorizations for the vaccines would be revoked. "Many of the vaccines would lose their Emergency Use Authorization if you have an effective treatment. That is a market in the hundred(s) of Billion. And that’s just the vaccines... And the market for Remdesivir…They would all dry up...Ivermectin CANNOT be adopted for that reason."

The WHO is supported to the tune of nearly four billion dollars by the Gates Foundation. Bill Gates is a vaccine proponent. Dr. Tess Lawrie of the British Ivermectin Research and Development Panel (BIRD) recently spoke with Dr. Kory in an interview. They discussed how the sponsor influenced the conclusions - non-scientifically - in key papers on Ivermectin. They further reviewed how numerous studies were eliminated from review and how weak and flawed studies were elevated and overweighted. This was all done with the purpose of twisting the WHO guidelines against Ivermectin to suit their sponsor's interests.

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Dr. Kory discussed the concept of Regulatory Capture, a term that applies when a regulatory agency is controlled by the same corporation they are supposed to regulate. In the vaccine situation, it is far worse than the fox guarding the henhouse. It is closer to the fox convincing the farmer to serve him the chicken fried up on a platter.

Big Tobacco cozied up to the FTC, and instead of regulating the industry, the FTC and Congress took money to look the other way and let them off by placing a weak warning label on the pack. The original warning label was supposed to read,

Caution: Cigarette Smoking is Dangerous to Health. It May Cause Death from Cancer and Other Diseases.

However, when greased with enough cash, the warning changed to,

Caution: Cigarette smoking may be hazardous to your health.

The words cancer, cause, and death were expunged. And as everyone knows, this warning label did not save anyone, with the sole exception of the cigarette industry.

https://www.amazon.com/Emperor-All-Maladies-Biography-Cancer/dp/1439170916

Today is no different. When Johnson and Johnson's vaccine reflected a danger signal of blood clots, their vaccinations were temporarily halted. But like with cigarettes, the CDC and FDA had our backs, and before resuming these mass vaccinations, they dutifully added a warning label. I am confident that everyone reads it carefully before they get their shot.

Dr. Peter McCullough, one of the world's most published cardiologists, called out the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccine. In particular, he warned about the Spike Protein that is produced after a person gets the shot. He spoke in a lengthy interview about the vaccine,

"This is far and away the most lethal, toxic, biologic agent ever injected into a human body in American History, and it is going strong, with no mention of safety by our public officials, with wild enthusiasm by our hospitals and hospital administrators, with doctors supporting it.” See the 1:37:08 mark in this video where he reports this:

https://vimeo.com/553060860

Regulatory Capture has been a fact of life for Big Polluters and the EPA and Big Pharma and the FDA. Now it has morphed into grotesque proportions with Big Vaccines and the WHO.

When the WHO looks the other way to suggestions that Communist China intentionally leaked the coronavirus to the world, and when Dr. Fauci's emails suggest he knew last year the virus was likely engineered through testing his own agency funded, and when the evidence points to collusion in suppressing the antidotes for the virus, i.e., repurposed drugs like Ivermectin and HCQ, then what does this say about the urgency of the threat we are now experiencing?

The textbook solutions to the thorny problem of Regulatory Capture have always involved legal remedies. Because when you hold corporations responsible with monetary fines, it sometimes helps. However, the monstrous tobacco settlement produced questionable benefits; cigarettes continue to be sold, and people are still dying from them in droves.

Criminal penalties are the harshest solution, and when you make examples of corporate officers, when heads roll, when people do time, real results follow. Dr. Soumya Swaminathan was served legal papers by the Indian Bar Association for the Tamil Nadu disaster. However, there are ever louder rumblings on this side of the pond that certain US public health authorities will be next.

If the GMA broadcast is any indicator, the time to demand reform is now; the time to halt the vaccine roll-out is at hand. The time to bring an end to the “Plandemic” is at once, for “We are the Prey,” and each of us is merely another dollar sign to Big Media, Big Pharma, and Big Regulators. The gatekeepers have sold us out.

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Some more excellent news here from India, courtesy of Pierre Kory.

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Source: Indian Doctors for Truth (https://awakenindiamovement.com/letter-to-honble-prime-minister/)



To,
Hon’ble Prime Minister,

We, Indian Doctors for Truth, write to you today to bring to your notice the subject of Immunity acquired through infection naturally vs Vaccine Immunity. It is well known from our knowledge of infectious diseases that immunity acquired through a natural infection can last for a long time.

Reinfection is extremely rare and almost non-existent. The cases of reinfection are also milder than the first infection.

Please find our letter, attached herewith and duly signed by us 20 doctors which urge you to reconsider the vaccination policy for all. Vaccination has been made mandatory in many private as well as public institutions, without taking into consideration that it is voluntary. Also, we have achieved herd immunity, and therefore the vaccine drive is not necessary and may in fact prove more harmful.


We strongly recommend that this universal vaccination policy is halted and it be made voluntary for people above the age of 60 with serious co-morbidities with full information given about its side-effects.


We hope to interact with you once you have read our letter. We wish to travel to meet you in person to give our expert opinion on India’s vaccination policy.


We eagerly await your positive response.


Regards,
Indian Doctors for Truth

The 20 page letter can be accessed here as well:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://awakenindiamovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Letter-to-PM.pdf&embedded=true